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June 12, 2025 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Trump To Deploy ICE Tactical Units Across US As LA Riots WORSEN, HUNDREDS Arrested | Timcast IRL
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tim pool
And there we go.
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So we got big news!
Hundreds of arrests in L.A., hundreds of arrests across the country as the L.A. riots have expanded nationwide and are intensifying.
And I think we're going into, what are we on?
Is it tonight, night six?
unidentified
Six.
tim pool
Six, night six.
Donald Trump is deploying tactical ICE units.
These are basically like, you know, SWAT-ish kind of guys.
To several different Democrat sanctuary cities and jurisdictions.
Which I can only imagine will, I don't know, make Democrats very angry.
Angrier than they already are, I guess.
So we can see this is starting to heat up, and I think this was planned.
Democrats knew this was going to be the protest plan.
In fact, Rudyard Lynch told me earlier today it was a great point.
But we do have a lot of other big news.
The other story is that the U.S. is evacuating embassies across the Middle East.
As there are fears, Israel will strike Iran, and then we may be dragged into that conflict as Iran then strikes against us.
So we'll talk about that, plus we've got a bunch of other news.
David Hogg has been fired by the DNC.
He'll love to see it.
I don't know how these people win in 2026, or 2028 for that matter, but maybe they'll surprise me.
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unidentified
Glad to be here.
Long time coming.
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tim pool
Who are you?
What do you do?
unidentified
Well, I'm a conservative political commentator on YouTube, Facebook, Twitch, not Twitch yet, Twitter, everywhere.
I'm on there.
That's pretty much, I do similar to what you do.
tim pool
Right on.
Should be fun.
Thanks for hanging out.
unidentified
Right on.
tim pool
We got Brett hanging out.
brett dasovic
Guys, what's going on?
And glad to see you.
I'm a longtime viewer of your content.
unidentified
Thank you, man.
Appreciate you.
brett dasovic
Let's go.
phil labonte
Who are you?
brett dasovic
I'm Brett.
See, I was like, last time, I was like, do you just do the intro at the end?
Just, guys, pop culture crisis, Monday through Friday, 3 p.m. Eastern Standard Time.
That's where I normally am.
I thought we'd just get the show going quicker this time.
phil labonte
How you doing?
My name is Phil Labonte.
I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains.
My name's a communist and a kind of revolutionary.
Let's get into it.
tim pool
Here's the story from the LA Times.
Immigration raids intensify with hundreds of arrests and tense moments across the LA area.
Check this out.
The White House confirmed on Wednesday that 330 people have been taken into custody by federal authorities since immigration sweeps began last week in Los Angeles.
White House Press Secretary Carolyn Levitt said of those 113 individuals, about a third of the group or about a third of the group had prior criminal convictions.
Indeed.
Following this, ICE will be deploying tactical agents in Seattle, Chicago, Philadelphia, New York, and Northern Virginia.
Post-millennial reports, Immigration and Customs Enforcement is preparing to deploy special response teams, SRTs, to five urban areas.
Seattle, Chicago, Philly, New York, North Virginia.
As chaos is erupting in these Democrat-run cities, an exact timeline for the deployment remains unclear, but the order to stand by has already been issued to all SRT, all special response teams in the affected areas.
And I think it's going to light up this weekend.
Curfew is still in place in Los Angeles.
I heard that they actually made several arrests.
There were some mass arrests after the curfew was enacted last night.
And don't forget, we're going to have the No Kings protest this weekend, sponsored, of course, by Christy Walton, which is triggering a boycott from MAGA.
phil labonte
Brought to you by Walmart.
tim pool
Indeed!
Indeed.
I don't know.
What do you guys think?
brett dasovic
No, the left was boycotting Target because they were getting rid of DEI policies.
So all the big box stores are suffering right now.
phil labonte
Yeah, apparently.
I think that the possibility for a new summer of love is actually materialized.
I still don't think that this is going to be as widespread as this.
Should there be, you know, a lot more.
Should it be a lot more widespread?
I still don't think that it'll have the cultural impact as the 2020 did because of the George Floyd riots and because of the fact that, again— I also think that one of it is there was a very, very iconic visual image.
brett dasovic
like the image of what happened to George Floyd was so embedded in people's minds.
It was such a dress, Whatever you think of what happened, that was a very, very stirring visual image, and that led to a lot of what you saw.
unidentified
That was the key thing.
The knee on the neck, that drove everything, and it went viral.
But now, it's not really that kind of image.
It's just the idea of so-called immigrants being kicked out.
phil labonte
And to that point, it's actually a situation where the images that are coming out, Americans don't like to see foreigners waving foreign flags fighting with our police officers.
They just don't like to.
tim pool
Which country would allow that?
phil labonte
None.
tim pool
Let's try.
Maybe Costa Rica.
unidentified
You want to be on the beach by yourself with an American flag?
phil labonte
Yeah, look, you know, the countries with the least Like, you're going to get literally chopped up in pieces and thrown on a barbecue in Haiti, and Somalia, you know, the local warlord, isn't going to put up with it.
If you're waving his opposing malicious flag, and they'll do things that are far more terrible to you there than are going to happen here, and that's probably why you won't see anyone testing the limits there.
unidentified
Even in their own home country.
Okay, you're flying the flag of X country.
Can you go to your country and do that?
What you doing here?
phil labonte
No.
No.
brett dasovic
I suppose one of the things they do have to worry about is as this goes on and as violence intensifies, they have to worry about some type of police action getting taken too far and then getting clipped and then being shown in a specific way.
If something goes horribly wrong and somebody does die in the middle of these protests at the hands of law enforcement and it's clipped the way that the left would like to clip these things, which is not to show inciting incidents, only show the aftermath of what happens, that runs the risk of being another visual image that could be very powerful.
tim pool
It was crazy.
I was watching The Five today, and Jessica Tarlov was just lying.
She was like, Trump's underwater, his polling's miserable, he's like minus 12 in immigration, and I was like, what?
I track this stuff all day, every day.
I read all the aggregate polling, and he's doing massively.
His aggregate polling is about minus 2.6.
So it's within the margin of error.
That's really good.
And on immigration, he's net positive in aggregate.
It's crazy.
They cherry pick a singular poll that gives them the results they want and then go on TV and go, can you believe how bad Trump is doing?
And the crazy thing is that Jesse didn't yell at her.
phil labonte
Part of me feels bad for Jessica in that context just because she's the chew toy for all the Republicans.
They just beat her up all the time.
tim pool
Maybe she shouldn't, you know.
Spread misinformation.
phil labonte
I agree.
The point that I'm making, though, is when you're in that situation, you have to be right and you can't spread misinformation, like Tim was saying.
Well, I mean, that's not exactly what I was saying, but it would functionally would probably be about the same.
unidentified
But the media always does that.
They always put out a fake story or misleading information.
Maybe they retract it a year later.
Six months later, but by the time you see the retraction, it doesn't matter because the initial story is what is stuck in the minds of the people.
brett dasovic
And it's very hard to get people to change their mind about something once they believe it.
The first way they hear it is always, as Tim's brought up multiple times about the very fine people hoax, is that when people are showed concrete evidence that what they were told was a lie, they cling on to what they believe even harder because your brain can't handle that a lot of the time.
You have to kind of come to those conclusions on your own.
Like if you're ever somebody who's like made some type of journey politically from either the left to the right or even I guess if you're somebody who's gone from the right to the left, I'm sure that that does happen is that you don't get there by your friends necessarily saying, look at this.
This is what's true.
It's you go – you have a slightly open mind and you go looking for information and – I just think at this point it's a cult.
tim pool
As I've stated numerous times.
But I think more so now.
Because several people I know, they all know the talking point.
And I'm saying right now, there are people that I know, that I've known for a long time, and I'm seeing them post about this.
And they are intentionally lying as well now.
Like, it's not just the TV personalities and the prominent liberals in media.
It's ground-level, grassroots liberal individuals intentionally lying.
So the narrative now that they're pushing is that there were no riots, that there were people peacefully playing music and dancing, and then Trump called in the National Guard and started shooting people.
They're omitting the Waymos being torched and burned.
They're omitting the SUVs getting pelted with rocks and smashed up and sat on fire.
They're omitting the people taking over the highways.
They're omitting the far left pelting the federal HQ where ICE was with rocks to stop them from getting out.
And they're just saying, no, it was just people were dancing.
And then Trump attacked them.
You know what it reminds me of?
Remember when Jack Posoba got punched?
And the cops watched it happen?
And then some woman walks up and goes, I saw everything.
Nobody hit him.
Or no, no, she said something like, I didn't see anything.
And she just looks smugly into the camera.
That's what they all do.
From the bottom up, they are just, it's just a cult.
phil labonte
You know, you're mentioning the fact that it's, you know, they're exceedingly dishonest is probably a charitable way.
tim pool
Academic way to put it.
phil labonte
Yeah, it's a charitable way to put it.
I just just saw this on on Twitter.
X. Rolling Stone is saying that the no kings protest.
The headline says protest.
Millions of Americans are expected to head to the streets on June 14th to oppose Trump's dictator.
tim pool
It's Flag Day.
phil labonte
Yeah, it's Flag Day.
It's also the 250th birthday of the U.S. Army.
Like, there are multiple things going on.
brett dasovic
Well, there's nothing the left hates more than celebrating the American flag.
phil labonte
Well, yeah, absolutely.
It's true.
But the point is, like, the...
If I was on—I mean, maybe the No Kings protests or whatever, the demonstrations are in response to this parade because this parade's been—he's been talking about it.
I think he was talking about it on the stump last year as well.
But still, they can't get their message together.
They don't even know what they're angry about.
These protests or demonstrations are taking off nationwide, and they're not really sure what they're— Right.
you know, merge in with the no Kings and they'd be like, Oh, this is just us rising up.
But against what?
Against the government enforcing the law that is broadly popular with the American electorate.
brett dasovic
Half of those people are lying and the other half don't understand that what happened is far more complicated than what they're being shown, right?
So if you're going to go, for instance, over the 4th of July and you're going to go see family, come armed with the videos of the bricks off the bridge and the Waymo's burning and all of the violence that's happened because they will have not seen any of that.
They didn't pay attention to any of that.
And if they did, it was in the context of some talking head on the screen telling them, this has been a mostly peaceful and, you know, they're just out there having fun.
Bonfires!
That's what they were doing.
They were having bonfires on the Waymos.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Peaceful bonfires.
brett dasovic
Yes, peaceful bonfires.
phil labonte
That made me think of it.
tim pool
Racist Waymos.
That's right.
phil labonte
Well, you know.
Now it's okay.
They're stealing jobs from the...
tim pool
Waymos are stealing jobs from the people who cook our food and clean our toilets.
phil labonte
Look who drives Ubers.
They're almost always immigrants.
Waymo is stealing jobs from immigrants.
tim pool
That's a good point.
phil labonte
You know?
tim pool
And when you...
Don't you know that all these illegal immigrants, and then she goes through this list of, they're more likely to clean your toilet and cook your food and do construction, and I was just like, Democrats want slaves.
She outright says in this video that these people can't vote, they get low pay, they get no benefits.
And we love it!
And I'm like, I don't.
Send them home.
unidentified
It's the same exact thing they did from the beginning.
They freed the slaves and then they've been mad about it ever since.
tim pool
They're trying to find another way to get it, basically.
Bring in illegal immigrants.
Joe Biden literally did this.
He created probably one of the largest slave classes anywhere in the world.
What he did was brings in millions of non-citizens.
Has the CBP then give them their hearings for their asylum status and then drops all the cases, creating de facto permanent residency with no rights.
So now you have people who get paid dirt to work low-skilled jobs, no benefits, no recourse, no unions, no OSHA, none of those protections.
And that's what the Democrats have been doing.
They've been desperate for their slaves back.
brett dasovic
I mean, unless you're in California where they want to give you the right to vote and $9.5 billion.
tim pool
And D.C. as well.
brett dasovic
And D.C. as well.
unidentified
That's crazy.
Totally crazy.
But it's that permanent underclass of people that they want to have.
You know, you do all the jobs, the dirty jobs, all that kind of stuff.
It's for y 'all.
So that's why I kind of get offended when they say, oh, they do the jobs that Americans don't want to do.
It's like, no, you guys don't want to do those jobs.
I have no problem doing those jobs.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
They don't want to do any jobs.
unidentified
They don't want to do anything.
tim pool
We saw that guy and he was like, oh no, work.
In that video.
unidentified
That was a terrible video.
Awful.
I hated that guy.
phil labonte
Depends on what's wrong with these people.
tim pool
You know, it's crazy to me because I can see the psychological disorder in that man.
For those that aren't familiar, there's this video going viral.
Black woman is arguing with these protesters saying like, I need to get to work.
Like, what about my kids?
And then Savannah Hernandez asks this white guy who's blocking the car and she's like, How do you feel about blocking a black woman from going to work?
And he goes, oh no, work.
It's crazy to me because I want to work all the time nonstop.
Everything I do, I'm working.
I wake up, I work, I eat food, skate, and then I work.
But these people have some kind of fractured mind, this derangement, where they literally want to do the opposite.
And I'm like, how have we cultivated generations, plural, of this kind of person?
brett dasovic
Who just has no desire to work whatsoever.
tim pool
And I want to stress, I'm not talking about, oh, it's like, what they end up saying is, so you can make some billionaire rich?
And it's like, dude, sell beads, man.
Like, sit in the court, put a blanket on the ground and sell beads.
These people don't want to do anything.
phil labonte
Yeah, right.
The cop out of, oh, you know, I'm going to make my boss rich or et cetera, et cetera.
If you're going to work and you're focused on that, like, I feel like...
If you can say, oh, I'm making this other guy rich, then you must be making enough money so that way you have time to think about things like, man, I'm not getting as much as I want to get.
brett dasovic
Well, they think that in the communist revolution that they will be the one who makes the art.
unidentified
That's what they all think.
They all think that way.
It's like, no, you're going to get shot first, actually.
Don't worry about it.
brett dasovic
Well, no.
I mean, even if not that, you'll be sent to the mines.
You'll be sent to work.
tim pool
But this is historically correct.
The revolutionaries are the first to be removed after a revolution because they are the biggest threat to the new power structure.
Yeah, I was talking to Rudyard Lynch earlier, and he was making the point that the French Revolution was incoherent.
This is what leftists and communists tend to do.
They have no coherent framework, and so it just tends to be chaos when they end up overthrowing a country.
phil labonte
Yeah.
And that's why the revolution is constant.
It's because the revolution, as they install the new power base or whatever, it invariably has hierarchy, has all kinds of things that the left just says are bad and stuff.
And so you have to have a constant revolution because all existing hierarchies will calcify and become oppressive and stuff.
so there has to be a consistent revolution.
That's why Cuba had the revolution was ongoing.
Well, today...
tim pool
The Venezuelan government calls it the revolution.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
So, I mean, it's been decades.
And it's like, it's been 20 years.
What revolution are you talking about?
It's ongoing.
It never stops.
And it's because when they say...
They have to keep telling you, no, no, they're still here, you know, somewhere lurking, ready to bring fascism back.
brett dasovic
Oddly enough, it's the same way that, like, non-profits work, which is that if they actually achieve their goal, they don't need to exist anymore if you're a charity.
Like, if you're looking to cure some disease, you don't actually benefit from curing the disease because then you're not making any money for the executives anymore.
tim pool
Yep.
I heard a story a long time ago, and I'm going to leave the company out of it, but everybody who knows me knows the name of the company, but a shoe company.
I met a guy who said he was a mid-level manager, VP, and he quit because they said we're not selling enough shoes because they last too long.
Is there a way we can make them fall apart faster?
Can we remove a certain percentage of the material from the sole, perhaps?
And he was like, is this a joke?
And they were like, people are wearing their shoes for months.
What do we do?
And he's like, make a good shoot.
Nope, that's not the way it works.
Let's jump to the story from the Post Millennial.
CNN data analyst sees tremendous 40-point shift among immigrants to GOP on the issue of border security and ICE enforcement.
Yes, indeed, my friends.
just so happens that almost all of the people who are complaining are white liberal women.
harry enten
And maybe that's why Kate Bolden was struggling through this segment with Harry and start off on Closest to or trust more in immigration.
You go back to 2020.
Democrats, get this, held a 32-point lead on this issue.
Immigrant voters were in the Democratic camp.
Jump forward to 2024, 2025.
Look at that shift.
A 40-point shift to the right among immigrant voters.
Republicans now lead on this issue by eight points over Democrats, more so than any other group that I could find.
The group of voters who became more hawkish on immigration were, in fact, immigrants themselves.
Immigrants who are registered to vote in this country.
tim pool
Democrats, that's called being on the right side of history.
kate bolduan
Well, that's on that issue.
How about how they feel about, kind of traditionally, historically, about Donald Trump?
harry enten
Yeah.
So, you know, you see this shift and you go, what is going on underneath the hood?
Well, take a look, Donald Trump.
You remember when he first ran back in 2016.
Immigrant voters are one of his weakest box.
But look at this.
Trump's vote share in presidential elections among, again, immigrant citizens, those who are registered to vote.
Look at this.
2016, he got 36 percent of the vote.
You go to 2020, 39% of the vote.
Look at this.
In 2024, all the way up to 47% of the vote.
Some polls I looked at had him barely losing that vote.
Some polls I looked at had him barely winning that vote.
Again, there is no block of voters that shifted more to the right.
From 2020 to 2024, then immigrant voters, and Donald Trump, at least in some surveys, actually won that vote.
On average, it's about equal.
So there may be all this stuff, right, about undocumented immigrants and Trump being harsh on them, but immigrant voters themselves have increasingly liked Donald Trump and have increasingly moved to the right on immigration into the Republican camp.
kate bolduan
Well then, on that, what you're getting at, how immigrant citizens, voters, feel about People in the country illegally.
harry enten
Yeah, and this is where it all kind of comes together, Kate Baldwin.
The net favorable rating, immigrants who are here illegally, among immigrant citizens, again, those registered to vote.
In 2020, look at this, plus 23 points on the net favorable rating.
But look at where we were in 2024.
Minus six points, underwater.
So immigrant citizens have become increasingly unfavorable in their views.
Of those immigrants who are here illegally.
So I think it's so important when we're talking about this debate from a political angle to separate those out who are undocumented immigrants versus those who are here legally.
tim pool
Wow, it took them only 10 years to figure out that not all immigrants are illegal and that the people who come here legally, they tend to be successful.
They tend to work really, really hard.
You know, what's fascinating is when you look at Filipino.
And Nigerian immigrants to the United States who come here legally, they have very high salaries.
Hardworking people who did everything right to come to this country, they believe in it.
Or as Serge was talking about before the show, South African refugees enter the country waving the American flag.
Actual American citizens living in California wave the Mexican flag.
brett dasovic
It's so weird to me, too, because this is something that felt very, very easy for people to understand, which is that it's not cheap to move to this country.
It's a difficult process to move to this country.
having to take a test to understand the ethics of America, its history.
It's not something you undertake lightly.
It's something you do because you, So why wouldn't somebody who works that hard, who put that much money, time and effort to come to a new country, want to wave its flag and to not understand the difference between that and someone who comes here without having to do any of that, to not understand why that person would be upset at the guy who's skipping the line is patently insane.
Nobody outside of the stupidest people on earth would be upset.
tim pool
You should see what I do when someone skips the line with me at 7-Eleven.
unidentified
Oh, man.
Like, people got to understand the issue legal versus illegal.
I don't understand why people don't want to address that mainstream media.
If you're here legally, I love you.
No problem.
You're following the law.
Illegally, that's when we got the problem.
brett dasovic
Yeah, and they make it a race issue too.
It's like, look, if there's a dude here from Eastern Europe that skipped the line, I don't want them here either.
unidentified
Any color.
brett dasovic
It doesn't matter.
phil labonte
Your definitions are bad to the left because they can't use the gray area to sneak past the rules.
tim pool
I think I got ragged on by a bunch of liberals like a year or two ago because I told a story about how Alice and I went to a restaurant.
And we walked up and said, you know, table for two.
And they said, it'll be a few minutes.
And I said, okay.
And then they seated like three different couples before us who had just walked in.
And I was like, what's going on?
Like, why are these people getting seats?
We've been sitting here waiting for like 20 minutes now.
And they were like, sorry about that.
And I was like, no, I'm leaving.
I said, I'm gonna go somewhere else.
We'll go to a different restaurant.
And liberals took that clip and then started sharing it like crazy.
And I couldn't for the life of me understand what about it was controversial.
I was like, I just decided not to go to a restaurant.
In their minds, you should just sit down, shut up, and do as you're told, and you'll get what you deserve when you deserve it.
So when you – I wonder if the real idea was they didn't want to perpetuate the idea that we should not tolerate line jumping and those who break the rules and take out of turn.
phil labonte
There's a lot of stuff that's in there.
They don't like the fact that you were assertive enough to say, no, I'm not going to just accept what's going on here.
I'm going to use the agency that I have to affect my life, which is something that we talked about.
The left doesn't like to act like they can affect They don't have the ability to make changes in the world.
tim pool
It's not your fault.
It's always someone else's and you can't succeed.
phil labonte
So your behavior probably struck multiple nerves with them.
Because you're like, well, I'm not going to just sit here.
tim pool
It's also the mentality of I would rather not eat than do business with someone who is disrespectful or ruler-less.
Unruly is a better word.
unidentified
But how is that controversial, though?
I mean, this is like a pretty basic thing to do.
It's like, okay, I'm standing here.
I'm waiting.
I'm minding my business.
People coming by.
They're getting seated.
I'm not getting seated.
Why would I want to eat here?
Obviously, I'm not being respected.
Let me just go somewhere else.
tim pool
I know.
My attitude with all this stuff is, okay, you don't owe me anything.
I don't owe you anything.
You clearly don't want me here.
I'm going to leave.
But they all started posting these clips.
They were loving it.
And I think things like that show the mentality of many of these people.
Why are they communists?
It's because the only way to change something like that from happening is to totally remove the – have a revolution in the industry.
Government should control and make sure these things can't happen, things like that.
brett dasovic
The more you also pick like a completely arbitrary, unachievable goal, the more you just get to kind of make the excuse that nothing changes and that it's always someone else's fault.
So you push – you kind of kick the can down the road eternally and things never change.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean like I said, the – The ability to have agency or the idea that they have agency and they can affect the world they live in, it's bad for them.
tim pool
I think you nailed it.
The reason why, because I'm like, even telling the story, it sounds like, like, who cares if they freaked out about this?
It's because I'm telling young people, stand up for yourself and solve your own problems.
Find solutions.
Go work for yourself and make something happen.
phil labonte
Better than telling people you're just demonstrating.
You're not trying to tell people how to live.
You're just saying, this is what I did.
And that's kind of like a leadership quality.
brett dasovic
This happens on the show when we cover it, which is like half of Hollywood likes to complain about the salaries on gendered lines.
So anytime there's an actress who gets offered money and turns it down because they didn't offer her enough, I'm like, yes!
Do that!
Do what this person did who bet on herself and said, look, I'm worth more money than that.
You better pay me what I deserve or else I'm going to walk.
And it seems normal to us, but you have to encourage us because they don't understand it.
tim pool
But the way the left works is there will be a movie with a male lead and a female lead, and it'll be like Brie Larson and Robert Downey Jr.
And Robert Downey Jr. will be given $100 million for his upcoming role, and she'll get seven.
And then she's going to be like, look at this pay disparity.
But then when the female lead is like Scarlett Johansson and the male lead is like some unknown dude, there's no – nobody cares.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
They make excuses and they lie so they can steal power.
unidentified
That's the game.
brett dasovic
Also, back to your point about the video you were talking about earlier when Savannah Hernandez asked him that.
Maybe he was just trying to sidestep the racial aspect of it by bringing up work.
He didn't have...
So he had to sidestep and make it about something other than race.
unidentified
They don't really care about race.
they'll talk about race a lot.
They'll champion race a lot, but they really don't care I don't care.
tim pool
I'd be willing to bet you that guy taught, Yeah.
I'd be willing to bet that if you put a surveillance camera on that guy and watch his everyday interactions, he's probably one of the most racist people you end up seeing.
brett dasovic
Or at the very least just riddled with white guilt for everything that he's been told by colleges.
tim pool
But that is...
There's a person who hates minorities or black people.
And the liberals go the virtue signal route, but they're still overtly racist.
I love pulling up that Yale study.
Have you ever seen this one?
unidentified
I don't think I have.
tim pool
The Yale study on this one?
Let me see.
Yale, white liberals.
I love bringing this up.
And I'm wondering, actually, if you've ever experienced this, Anthony.
White liberals present themselves as less competent in interactions with African Americans.
unidentified
Yeah, the white liberals are the worst.
How did everybody have to deal with?
Captain Manbun, like him and his mom in that video, I hate them whenever I see them.
I go the other direction because I know it's going to be a bad interaction every single time.
tim pool
Conservatives don't do it.
This is the thing.
Conservatives, libertarians, they will just talk to you.
And if you don't understand, they'll explain and they just talk like you're normal.
Liberals intentionally act less competent because they're racist.
They think that black people can't get IDs or figure out how to use the internet.
unidentified
That's the funniest thing.
I've seen that.
It's like, come on, man.
Just go to the DMV.
It's like, we're regular citizens like everybody else.
They don't see us that way.
They see us the same way they see the migrants as the permanent underclass.
Hey, you guys just work, clean the toilets.
Y 'all just do that.
that you're not really people.
tim pool
In that Ami Horwitz video, my favorite interaction, I'll bring it up whenever I can is, I'm sure most people are familiar with this video.
It's one of the most massively...
Have you seen this one where...
He goes to Berkeley college students and says, can black people get IDs?
And they're like, no.
They just don't know how to use the internet and things like that.
Then he goes to New York.
He goes to Harlem and the Bronx.
And then he asks them, do you have a phone?
And this lady's like, yeah.
Does it have the internet?
She's like, yeah, why?
And he's like, I'm just curious, I'm just curious because...
But my favorite is when he goes to this older black guy and he's like, do you know where the DMV is?
Yeah, if you go up on 25th Street, you make 11. Of course he's giving him directions he knows how well.
It's insane to me that they live in this bubble world, these liberals.
They go to this—they're from white enclaves.
They go to overly white universities where they stand up.
And say, we need to go burn down the city to save black people.
And then when a black lady shows up saying, I'm just trying to get to work, they go, we don't care about you.
phil labonte
I can't conceive of the method that you have to use to get from burning down the city to we'll save black people.
Like, what are you talking about?
What does that mean?
unidentified
They don't really care about saving anybody other than themselves.
In my opinion, in the video with Savannah, I think that dude and his mom were there getting paid.
She's trying to get to work.
He's like, I'm at work.
You're in the way.
brett dasovic
He's like, my check already cleared, man.
unidentified
It's already cleared.
I gotta stay out here.
And they're watching me, so if I leave, It's already in the bank.
phil labonte
I'm smart.
I get paid before I go to work.
You go to work and then get paid.
brett dasovic
Look, and a lot of it is proven, just like in 2020, that they don't actually care about the cause that they're actually advocating for.
Mm-hmm.
And if you can't look at something like that, which is weird too because they seem to think of empathy as something on the macro scale.
You have to be empathetic to an entire group of people.
Whereas I think maybe the more well-adjusted version is I have empathy for people that I see in my everyday life.
Or you look at an individual example of something awful that happened to someone and you're like, yes, I can have empathy for this person in this situation.
But the problem is that is not politically expedient.
Because it doesn't speak to a larger cause.
You have to have mass toxic levels of empathy for all people.
And look, that's not good for politicians.
It's not good for CEOs.
And yes, for you or I, we can have empathy, especially when you talk about these examples with the riots or even the stuff going on with ICE where they're going into neighborhoods.
And then the people in that neighborhood are going to be uniquely affected by that because those are their neighbors, their confidants, their people in their lives that they know on a daily basis.
That's different.
But if you go to somebody on the internet, Who doesn't know that person, doesn't know anything about that, but just sees what the large-scale issues are in the country and how it's perceived that immigration plays, illegal immigration plays in those problems.
There's no empathy to be had there.
That's not the point of the discussion, and that doesn't help them politically.
tim pool
Let's jump to this from the mirror.
Ladies and gentlemen, I have been holding this one back for months.
unidentified
Civil war.
tim pool
From the mirror, Los Angeles is just the start of a big, beautiful civil war.
I'm sorry, it says, just to start, a big, beautiful civil war is coming to America.
Peaceful protests are rebellion, Hispanics are illegal, and up is down in Trump's America, says Fleet Street Fox.
There will be a civil war before this man is through.
Now, to be fair, this is often an overly snarky, somewhat satirical writer for the Mirror, but this is, while intended to be, I guess, inflammatory, this woman is very much serious in what she's writing.
I'll give you a few examples.
She writes, It was a hot, wet day in June as tear gas rained upon the land of the free.
Peaceful protesters, live streamers, and the ready-to-be-angry were pepper-sprayed.
Those two most dangerous foes of tyranny, innocent bystanders and journalists, were fired upon with rubber bullets and stun grenades.
And America is such a great nation that this is considered mercy.
As these snub-nosed, non-lethal rounds, four centimeters wide and ten centimeters long, tear flesh apart...
And usually stop before they reach an organ rather than pierce with the deadly certainty of a 9mm hollow point.
Can I just ask you, Phil, real quick about that last line?
Pierce with deadly certainty of a 9mm hollow point?
phil labonte
I mean, I like the hollow points because they expand and they don't go all the way through, but that's just me.
tim pool
So when I first read this too, I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
They're not meant to be piercing shots.
They penetrate and expand.
So I guess in these, we're not going to argue semantics, they do.
Pierce through the skin, technically, but Pierce usually implies a sharp point puncturing through something.
But anyway, I digress.
brett dasovic
No through and throughs.
It's going to burrow into an organ and it's going to stay there.
phil labonte
He doesn't know anything about race.
tim pool
This is a ridiculous article claiming, look, what do they write?
Hispanics are illegal and everything.
And you may be saying, yeah, maybe they're just being over the top.
Well, here's Mother Jones.
phil labonte
They're not illegal.
They're just regulated.
tim pool
Will Trump force America to break up?
He seems determined to try.
And then you have this from Milwaukee Independent from just a week ago.
MAGA's vision of a second civil war dangerously misreads America's fragmented political geography.
I would go and say, I don't know what the Milwaukee Independent is, but congratulations to whoever wrote this.
It is the most ill-informed, by insights, ill-informed article on the issue I've ever read, so much so that it couldn't be AI.
It would have to be a human being because at least AI would get some basic facts correct.
But the narrative that's emerging from the LA riots is once again in the media the prospect of a second American civil war.
I talked to Rudyard Lynch earlier today, as I've mentioned several times now, and he was saying he thinks it will happen in the next few years.
He doesn't know when, but this may be a component of it.
But the right will surely win.
And his prediction is that we are like the fall of the Roman Republic and we will end up.
The right will win.
And then by the end of this century, we will have an empire.
A militaristic empire.
phil labonte
Military dictatorship.
tim pool
Yeah.
Right, you agree?
brett dasovic
Yes, of course.
tim pool
Dictatorship.
brett dasovic
All tied back to deportations, I was thinking about it.
Clinton deported like a million, but it was like 12 million if you count returns at the border.
And Obama deported 3 million.
It was 5 million if you counted people who returned away at the border.
Trump's like struggling to get to one and they're all like, get on my level and now everybody's mad.
It's the Republicans that are actually supposed to be mad right now because he's not reaching deportation levels that he promised everyone.
It's being exaggerated in the media by means of propaganda.
phil labonte
You're right.
But remember, the Democrats nowadays are...
The Democrat Party is now largely run by progressives and further left, and they're trying to figure out whether or not there's any room for the old school blue dog Democrats.
That's why Donald Trump, RFK, Tulsi Gabbard, you know, these people are no longer in the Democrat Party because they're no longer the Democrats that you would even have thought of 10 years ago.
brett dasovic
Yeah.
And like when you think about it.
Um, And immigration is one of those ones that's a great kind of litmus test because it is a liberal idea to believe in borders.
It is not a liberal idea or it is not a progressive idea to believe in borders, right?
So if somebody claims themselves to be a liberal or a democrat and they don't believe that borders are real and that no human being can be a leader, I think they're also uninformed.
unidentified
A lot of people that vote left, they're really uninformed.
They don't know a lot of things.
So whatever they see on television, they're pretty much good with that.
And they don't know anything else about anything.
phil labonte
Yeah, that actually speaks to the point that Tim makes regularly about what woke is.
It's people that aren't actually married to an ideology or anything.
They're just kind of following what is the current trend.
Whereas I do think that that's the majority of the people on the left, I think those are also the people that are.
Because when it comes to, you know, even the riots, like those, there's different groups of people.
There's at least half of them to three quarters of them are just out there because, you know, setting fires in the streets is kind of fun.
and you're 20 years old and you got nothing to do and you don't have anything to lose and if you get arrested- Yeah, exactly.
You're doing the right thing.
You're fighting fascism.
So there's only a handful of any of these groups that actually know, have an ability to articulate why they're there and what they're doing.
brett dasovic
Kind of cloak your bad deeds in some type of moral cause.
It makes you even more likely for a certain type of person to commit acts like that.
unidentified
But also, is there a financial component?
Are we seeing people getting paid to go out there?
Is there anything that's being funded?
Are we getting weapons shipped to these places?
phil labonte
That's something that there's been video evidence of.
I don't have any links right this second, but I can find them.
There were brand new masks being dumped off to people last night.
brett dasovic
Pre-printed signs.
unidentified
Yeah.
I used to work in print, so when I see all the preprints, I'm like, I know exactly how much that costs.
That's a lot of money.
brett dasovic
It takes time.
phil labonte
Yeah, exactly.
It does take time.
tim pool
Let's say I wanted to print like a thousand signs.
How much time in advance would you need?
unidentified
Oh, I'm going to need some time.
If I got a printing press, we talking about like yard signs?
tim pool
Like the other ones they hold up on spikes?
unidentified
Oh, like those?
Yeah, give me about, at least about three to four days to go to the press.
I couldn't just do that overnight, usually.
tim pool
The point being...
brett dasovic
Have you seen the video of the iPhones screaming at you after they got stolen?
Like the iPhones on the street that started beeping because they were stolen from the stores?
phil labonte
What, really?
brett dasovic
Yeah, like, so, like, the...
Yeah, after the looting.
unidentified
What?
brett dasovic
Yeah, there was iPhones just screeching to be...
phil labonte
At least all it does is squeal.
That's a good idea, man.
brett dasovic
Apple's like, not on our watch.
We're not taking our phones.
tim pool
Yo, this is hilarious.
phil labonte
Get away with some things, but you ain't getting away with all the phones.
tim pool
Yo, this is BG on the scene.
Check this out.
It says, please return to the Apple Tower Theater.
This device has been disabled and is being tracked.
Local authorities will be...
brett dasovic
I mean, let's be real.
The local authorities probably weren't going to do anything about it.
tim pool
So they just threw him on the ground.
brett dasovic
Yeah, just got out of there.
unidentified
I know somebody probably brought it back to their house trying to fix it.
And it's like, no, sir, you're about to go to the penitentiary.
phil labonte
Maff it up in a towel.
tim pool
Yo, this is crazy.
brett dasovic
Your android wouldn't do this to you.
Just another way to know that you should have just gotten an android instead.
tim pool
You guys know that androids take a picture of you when you get the code wrong.
phil labonte
Oh, really?
tim pool
Yeah.
Well, I don't know about all of them.
Mine does.
If you try and do the pattern, it doesn't work.
It takes a picture and then it uploads the picture instantly to emails it.
So I have a bunch of pictures of my face like...
Because I'm like sitting in bed and I'm like, I sausage finger the pattern, it doesn't work.
And that takes a picture of me and I'm like, ah!
brett dasovic
I just, I want to reiterate, look, if you're going to a barbecue over the holiday weekend at the end of, you know, the start of next month, bring the videos of what's happening so when your leftist or your liberal aunt starts telling you how it was extremely peaceful that you just, like, look, if you can show me how this is peaceful, I will concede.
unidentified
Man, look, I done tried that.
I've done that.
I'm that guy at Thanksgiving dinner table.
Hey, have you seen this?
And they're still like, I don't believe that.
That's fake.
That's AI.
I was like, I can't help you.
brett dasovic
Look, it's the boomers that are getting tricked by the AI, too.
So if they're calling it AI...
unidentified
I done got food.
I was like, wow, they really...
phil labonte
No.
brett dasovic
It's every archetype of influencer.
It's the crypto bro.
It's the OnlyFans model.
phil labonte
How would I Google this?
brett dasovic
You'd have to do it on X. It's an AI video, right?
Yeah, it's an AI video.
tim pool
What is the video?
brett dasovic
It's all the different influencers reacting to the end of the world.
tim pool
Oh, right.
Yeah, I saw that one.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, that one's funny.
And there's like a woman running and there's explosions behind her and she's like, don't forget to like and subscribe.
brett dasovic
Otherwise, the guy's like, this isn't the end of the world, this is another dip, and I'm buying more right now.
tim pool
I'm imagining the aliens that watch Earth, like a nature documentary, are watching all of the weird stuff people are doing with their social media.
And they're just like, oof.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I remember when I lived in Jersey, I was getting the mail or something.
And then I saw this 13-year-old girl standing in the middle of the street just going like...
I'm doing weird body movements.
phil labonte
Doing a video.
tim pool
And then I was like, I didn't know what she was doing.
And I was like, hey, yo, she's standing in the middle of the street, what is she doing?
Oh, and then I saw her phone in a mailbox pointed at her, and I was like, oh, she's doing a TikTok.
But it looked like she was kind of spazzing out in the middle of the road.
unidentified
It looks crazy if you see a TikTok video in real life without the camera, the context, it looks crazy.
tim pool
Oh, it's hilarious watching how people fake all these videos.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
Like, you go to the mall, and then you can see people, I'm sure many people watching have seen this happen, where they stage stuff, and you'll see, like, A person walking really slow.
Stuff like that.
Or like standing in front of a fountain, frozen.
And there's someone just like moving around all crazy with the camera.
And I'm like, wow.
Yeah.
Do you see the rapper who shut down the highway in California?
They got a bunch of cars to block the highway, and then he got out, and they hung a microphone from the back of a truck.
unidentified
That was Atlanta.
I saw that.
tim pool
It was Atlanta?
Yeah.
unidentified
I knew people that were stuck in that traffic.
tim pool
I mean, he's probably going to get a felony or something, isn't he?
unidentified
I think it might have been police that understood what was going on.
I don't know, because Atlanta's weird like that.
brett dasovic
Say what you want about the record industry, but at least they would have gotten a permit to do it.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Man, that phone thing is crazy.
Why steal them?
brett dasovic
What's the point?
For justice.
unidentified
I'm not dealing with very smart people here.
tim pool
Part of me likes the future for this reason.
Just like, you know, the idea of someone going in to loot a CVS and then as they're grabbing them, they run out the door, they just get frozen in suspended animation.
And then it's like, that's it.
No one has to touch them.
They're not hurt in any way.
And as far as they know, they blink and the cop's standing right in front of them, cuffing them, you know.
I kind of like that.
I don't know.
I know it sounds creepy and the future is scary and all that stuff.
And this freaks people out because they're like, the surveillance, the surveillance, freedom and security.
And I'm just like...
Yeah, I get it.
unidentified
Give it the times, man.
2025 and it's not going to slow down.
The AI, I'm only going to accelerate.
tim pool
If the police were given devices that if they point at you and press the button, you can't move.
You feel no pain.
But you can't move.
Would it be better that we give all cops that ability?
unidentified
Nah, because that'll get weaponized for sure.
tim pool
Of course.
But then the alternative is tasers and handguns.
unidentified
Hey, tase me.
Tase me, bro.
I'm alright.
I'd rather we get tased than to be suspended in space like that.
tim pool
But, you know, it's like, I don't know.
I don't know.
What do you guys think?
brett dasovic
Nah, leave it the way it is.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
It's like you get stopped by a cop and then some guy, you know, there's an altercation and the cop gets mad or whatever.
Or the person panics and the cop panics and then he shoots him.
When the cops go click and the guy just doesn't move and he's like, oh my bad, that's not even a gun.
I'm sorry about that.
And then there's not even any pain involved.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
The reason I bring it up is because it's kind of freaky, the idea that a cop could just point something and you click and you're paralyzed.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
You can't move.
But it's better than shootouts.
Ah, good question.
unidentified
Good question.
tim pool
Well, I did...
A question for men.
If you were alone in the woods, would you rather encounter a bear or a lady cop?
unidentified
Man, that's a head scratcher.
phil labonte
It actually depends on the kind of bear.
Polar bear, no.
Brown bear, probably not.
Black bear, I would rather encounter the black bear than the...
tim pool
The black bear?
phil labonte
Absolutely.
Black bears will run from you.
tim pool
No, black bears.
phil labonte
Black bears compared to brown bears or white.
brett dasovic
The grizzlies and the polar bears are the ones that are...
phil labonte
Well, you'll probably die.
unidentified
Any beer.
tim pool
Grizzlies will...
If it's brown laid down, if it's black, fight back.
If it's white, good night.
So black bears maul you to death.
Grizzly bears will slosh you around and then leave once you're not a threat.
phil labonte
The reason you fight back to black bears, though, is because black bears tend to be timid and they'll run away from you.
So you fight, you make noise.
tim pool
I don't believe that's correct.
I believe it's because black bears maul you to death.
phil labonte
Not that they can't or won't, but a grizzly bear is between like seven and ten foot when they stand on their hind legs.
A black bear is like between like, I think six and six and eight or something like that.
tim pool
I'm going to tell you, Phil, I asked you at GPT and it says you're wrong.
It says that black bears are very rare and when they do appear, they see you as prey.
Fighting back has a high rate of fighting them off.
If it's a black bear, attack back.
If it's a grizzly, play dead.
phil labonte
Yes.
tim pool
But it's not because they're timid.
It's because, and my understanding is...
They don't care if you're weak or not.
You're prey.
Whereas grizzlies, you're a threat.
And so with a grizzly, you curl up, you cover your neck, and then the grizzly will be like, you're not a threat, it'll leave.
Black bears are like, I'm going to eat you.
unidentified
Go mo, right away.
I'm going for the kill.
phil labonte
Black bears always run away whenever they hear humans in New Hampshire.
unidentified
Maybe they learned a lesson because in New Hampshire they got those rifles.
phil labonte
I mean, I don't know.
generally I was under the impression that black bears would avoid people unless they were like going for garbage.
unidentified
I think it's for all bears that you're supposed to make noise so they I had a black bear come to Sheetz near where I was and it freaked out, ran away really fast.
tim pool
There's no camera on you.
unidentified
Yeah, I don't know why I saw him.
brett dasovic
That's okay.
Either way, I'm taking the female police officer because I'll just outrun her.
unidentified
Actually, a female cop can't really do too much unless she gets to her tool belt.
tim pool
He's armed, though.
unidentified
Okay.
If it's a female cop with no tool belt, no problem.
tim pool
It was funny because I got a response.
It's obviously a joke.
I've encountered female cops before.
To be fair, though, now that I think about it, there were never good interactions.
I told that story about how I got robbed by cops.
It was two lady cops.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
I was in New York.
unidentified
You got robbed in the USA?
tim pool
By two lady cops.
So not literally, but technically.
What happened was I was at a bar on the other side of the Williamsburg Bridge in New York.
And so I was leaving, called an Uber, and I lived just on Broadway.
So anybody who lives in New York knows you cross the – is it the Williamsburg Bridge?
I think so.
And then you go right into Broadway.
And it's a straight shot, no turns.
So I call – I think it was a green cab.
Or it was a yellow cab, actually, because I'm in Manhattan.
And I – Go in the back and I say, here's my address.
He drives across the bridge and I'm half past out, but I'm awake.
And then he turns left.
And I immediately go, yo, yo, yo, where are you going?
unidentified
Where are you going?
tim pool
He's like, I'm going, I'm going.
I'm like, no, no, no, no, no.
I'm down Broadway.
You're turning left here.
He was trying to do that.
This is what they do.
They run up the meter.
So I said, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.
I'm going to get out now.
And he says, no.
And he hits the gas.
So then I'm like freaking out.
So as soon as there's a car in front of us and the light turns red, it's slowing down, I pop the door and jump out.
It's a gas station.
And then he slams his brakes on, gets out, he's screaming at me.
The meter was like $14.
And then I said, dude, back off.
And he was squaring up.
And so I went to the gas station.
I was like, yo, call the cops.
This guy's freaking me out.
He's going nuts.
When the cops showed up, they actually said, we are going to arrest you right now unless you give us the money in your wallet.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Yeah.
And I was like, wait, wait, wait.
Hold on.
Hold on.
I was like, I called you guys because this guy was threatening me.
And they were like, well, he says you owe him 50 bucks, so pay him or else.
And then I was like, I don't owe him 50 bucks.
I just came from across the bridge.
He took a turn.
I jumped out of his car and he started threatening me.
And they said, you have two choices.
Take out your wallet right now.
Empty the cash.
Otherwise, you're under arrest.
And I was like, okay.
I had 20 bucks.
I was like, I got 20. They took it.
And then they said, do you want a ride home?
I was like, no.
unidentified
I walked.
brett dasovic
It's the same logic for short cops, apparently.
You don't want to have interactions with a short cop because they're always being tested by the taller ones, so they've got a chip on their shoulder.
unidentified
What's that, Napoleon Syndrome?
brett dasovic
Yeah, you don't want that.
tim pool
Alright, let's jump to this next story from the New York Post.
Oh my heavens me!
Ice immigration raids.
Empty Home Depot parking lots of day laborers.
Okay.
I mean, breaking news.
phil labonte
If that's where they are.
tim pool
They say in northern New Jersey, just a few men stood in the morning sun on Tuesday where dozens used to gather, according to the Wall Street Journal.
Parking lots outside Home Depot across the country that were once teeming with day laborers angling for work are now eerily quiet.
A stark sign of how the Trump administration's immigration crackdown is reshaping the informal labor market.
You mean the...
unidentified
Illegal?
tim pool
Yeah, I mean, they've got no rights.
They've got no unions.
They've got no protections.
And they displace the work for American, especially American Gen Z, who would do the job.
And here's the best part.
People say that Gen Z, they don't want to work because they don't get paid enough.
They can't afford a home.
Imagine this.
Imagine if you got rid of all of the unskilled illegal immigrant labor.
And all you had left was Gen Z saying, I want $30 an hour for this job.
Guess what you got to pay him?
unidentified
$30 an hour.
tim pool
That's right.
And that means it's going to – this is actually what stops the wealth gap.
The ultra-wealthy's profit margins go down as they start spreading out what they have to try and cover the cost in the bottom, and it creates a balanced economy.
But instead, what we have is illegal immigrants come in endlessly.
This is the thing that I think a lot of the libertarian capitalists don't get.
There is a near-infinite supply of cheap labor all over the world that we can't compete with.
And so the Democrats bring these people in, and then Gen Z is just sitting in their parents' basement.
unidentified
Exactly.
That's the main thing with Gen Z. They're like, okay, what do I do?
How do I get into the actual job market?
I want to go work at McDonald's.
I want to work at Walmart, Home Depot.
But the illegal aliens are there.
These people are fully grown men with wives and kids.
I'm 16 years old.
How do I get into the market?
And then once I...
What do I do?
phil labonte
Yeah, I don't know if parents are...
But it's super important just to get a job that gets you acclimated to going to a place and doing what you're told, even when you don't want to, even though it sucks, even though you're, you know, whatever your problem is that day, you know, whatever it is.
Once you get acclimated to those kind of things, it makes getting jobs and finding, you know, finding gainful employment easier in the, you know, in the future.
And I feel like that kind of like the building blocks kind of thought process isn't – isn't really given to kids anymore.
Like young people don't get the, I had my first job when I was 14 years old.
brett dasovic
They're not even getting their driver's license.
They're getting their driver's license in lower amounts than every previous generation did.
tim pool
I love this story.
Apparently, I guess Stephen Miller was...
And Biden—so here's the thing about Biden and Trump.
They say that they were deporting more—I'm sorry, Biden and Obama were deporting more illegal immigrants than Trump is doing right now, and that's technically not correct.
With Donald Trump shutting down the border, they're going after illegal immigrants in ways that no one's ever done.
Obviously, if this wasn't the case, the left would not be protesting.
Obama turned back millions of people.
Call them deportations.
Biden, I think it was somewhat of a hybrid, but he was actually shuttling in way more people than he was actually deporting.
And so with Trump shutting down the border, it's actually quite simple.
If Biden lets one million people cross the border and then tells 300,000 to go back, he's deported 300,000.
If Trump shuts the border down entirely and then starts going to the interior to deport people, but it's only 10,000, they say, look, he's barely deporting anybody.
I'm sorry, apparently Stephen Miller didn't like that narrative, so he said, start going to Home Depots.
I don't know if that's true, but that's what I heard on the news.
He said, just go to the Home Depots and grab them.
And then, apparently, that's what they've been doing.
And so ICE just rolls up to Home Depot and says, hey, who wants to go home?
brett dasovic
So does that mean that Trump doesn't count the turnaways at the border now as deportations?
tim pool
There aren't any.
brett dasovic
Nobody's even trying to get there.
phil labonte
The number of people that they're actually trying is down.
Like 95% or something like that.
unidentified
They know it's over, so that route is shut down.
brett dasovic
Also, they know they can wait it out depending on who wins the next election, which is unfortunately...
You don't think so?
tim pool
No.
Well, I should rephrase that.
I think there is a decent probably.
It is probable that many of these people think they can wait for another election, but I don't think that there is a guarantee that.
So if people – if Trump does lose in – I should say the Republicans lose because Trump's not going to run.
Although maybe, who knows?
Let's say that a Democrat, open borders Democrat, wins.
Let's say Democrats win the midterms.
Then they win 2028 and now they've got the House.
They hold the House for this election, obviously, because if they're going to win the presidency, it's likely going to happen.
So they have the House and the presidency.
The president then says, Newsom, we are no longer going to discriminate against our undocumented citizens and their families.
Open the border.
I think it's very possible that Americans go rogue and just say, nah, and they go to the border and then you get violence.
phil labonte
I mean, not that I'm hoping for that, but I...
Like the idea of shutting down all immigration, I think is perfectly reasonable right now until we can actually start getting significant portions of the illegal immigrants that have come here out of the country.
tim pool
I think if Kamala had actually won, Did you guys see the article?
There's an article that someone came out of study shows that she actually won and Trump stole the election.
phil labonte
Yeah, I saw that.
unidentified
The killing us were saying that the election was stolen in 2020, but then they put out something in 2024, and it's fine.
tim pool
I think if Kamala Harris would have won, we'd be in some kind of greater destabilization or comparable destabilization.
But I think it'd be pretty serious.
It's a little early, so we don't know where this L.A. riot stuff goes, this ICE riot stuff.
But I do think that if the Democrats won, it would be – I do have a morbid curiosity about what would have happened had Kamala Harris won.
Well, the DOJ would be arresting prominent conservative politicians and their lawyers.
You'd see a lot of tax attacks.
The IRS would start accusing people.
It's really the easiest way to get rid of any personality.
And you've got to do it sparingly, but you want a Tim Poole, a Crowder, or just Benny Johnson?
Tax fraud.
They just say, hey, you didn't pay taxes and we're going to accuse you of a crime.
And then you just go like, I have an accountant who does all that for me.
Oh, so you admit it.
That's how they play it.
And they'd start figuring out what they did with the Tea Party under Obama.
They started auditing and going after and trying to jam them up and seize their money.
And then you'd get a bunch of the lawfare.
You'd get Democrat-aligned lawyers filing frivolous lawsuits and bogging you down.
And I think a lot of people would be in jail.
brett dasovic
I have been reliably told that Barack Obama had no scandals at all.
tim pool
Well, he did wear a tan suit.
brett dasovic
He did wear a tan suit one time.
tim pool
And he killed that kid.
You know, a couple of them, actually.
brett dasovic
That's another one that you have to...
tim pool
He killed a lot of kids.
brett dasovic
You hear those stories and the people that talk about how there were no scandals in that time period.
No, it's the same thing that goes on now.
You just didn't hear about it.
Nobody was talking about it.
tim pool
I'm asking, Chad GPT, how many children did Obama kill?
phil labonte
Oh, boy.
unidentified
Oh, man.
It's gonna be a lot.
tim pool
It's gonna say none.
It's gonna be a lot.
What are you talking about?
brett dasovic
He wore a tan suit, Tim.
tim pool
Oh, I love this.
It says, while there's no evidence that President Obama personally directed the killing of children, U.S. drone and airstrikes authorized under his administration did result in civilian and child casualties between 66 and 184 children due to the airstrikes authorized by Barack Obama.
phil labonte
Yep.
brett dasovic
That's crazy.
I was told that he didn't do anything wrong.
phil labonte
That is incorrect.
He definitely did some things wrong.
unidentified
You can do whatever you want to do if you have favor from certain people.
phil labonte
Well, yeah, I mean, this actually points to something we talked about yesterday on the show, which is like, you can get away with a lot when the...
The population is on your side.
So right now, the things that Donald Trump is doing in California, the things that the federal government is doing in California, they haven't changed the opinion of the American people, and he's not breaking the law.
So whatever he's doing, he should continue doing it and probably double down because, again, it hasn't changed the opinion of the American people.
First of all, and second of all, he's not breaking the law at all.
Even if he were to start pushing, you know, pushing the law.
QUESTIONS.
Questionable behavior, whatever.
As long as he has the American people on his side, it's fine.
There were so long where the American people weren't plugged into what reality was.
They were believing what they were being told on the regular news.
2020 really kind of ripped the mask off so that way people really kind of saw the things that the government does.
But the reason why the Democrats got away with so much stuff for so long is because they had the American people on their side.
The American people kind of were still mostly the default Democrat.
at and that's obviously changed since 2020 and COVID and the summer 11 stuff but as long as You can get away with a lot of stuff, whether it's legal or not.
brett dasovic
I feel like that's one of the reasons.
One of the phenomenons that I've always noticed is that when there's a Republican in office, especially with Trump, that any government failing is his responsibility.
But when a Democrat president is in office, if something happens, like under Obama, there was the NSA scandal and then there was Solyndra.
There was the AP spying scandal and all this stuff.
But that falls on just the government.
Blanket the government.
He's kind of insulated in a way from the public's perception of how that's taken.
And look, that's all well and good if you want to be lied to.
But that's the difference between how they're held accountable by the public because anything that goes wrong in Trump's administration is put squarely at his feet.
And it should be.
Whatever your thoughts are on any presidential candidate, their cabinet, their picks, their party right at that time.
phil labonte
It's kind of like the whole Republicans pounce, right?
So when the Democrats do something, the story that the left or the left media, which is the mainstream media, had told and still does to this day, the story that they tell is Republicans noticed.
Republicans pounce on Democrats for doing this.
The story isn't what actually happened.
The story is the reaction that the Republicans are having.
And so the Republicans are bad for pointing this out or they're bad for saying these things.
As opposed to actually addressing the story.
So the Republicans pounce on it.
So whenever the Democrats do something that's good or whatever, they'll tell the story.
When the Republicans do something that's good, they won't tell the story.
brett dasovic
Lie by omission.
phil labonte
Yeah, it's lying by omission, but it's also setting the narrative that the left is always correct.
brett dasovic
How do you think that the political dynamics in this country have changed since Trump's first term?
unidentified
Wow.
I think...
So that period of time, not having Trump in office, Americans realize, oh, this is what you guys wanted to do?
So people are more sympathetic toward what Trump wants to do.
The deportations say, cool, we saw the numbers earlier.
You got a 40% swing among immigrants because they hate it more than anybody else.
It's like, okay, I'm here legally.
I've done everything right.
I've paid my money.
People from other countries that I left are following me and they're bringing criminals.
they're bringing all types of negative things.
brett dasovic
So people are more in favor with Do you think a lot of it is also like the accusation of being racist for this is just kind of worn off and it just doesn't affect people the way it used to?
unidentified
It doesn't affect people because people can see right through it and then you have a lot more people that are online.
People are able to consume different kind of content.
Like the stranglehold that the mainstream media had on the people, that's over.
At one point you could just watch TV and that was your social information.
Now people don't even watch TV.
They're on their phones.
So a lot of the mainstream narrative is not really hitting the same as it is.
And we've gotten younger.
People are now just coming into politics.
Okay, you're 18 years old and for the first time you're seeing all this.
It's much different than being 18 years old 10 years ago.
brett dasovic
Or even longer.
I mean it's like you didn't get into politics at 18 when you were – at least when I was a kid.
Like you didn't necessarily care.
Like there was a bit of an uprising because Obama came on the scene and that was a big thing.
A lot of people felt like they were going to be able to affect change.
That was the slogan.
And that was a big political awakening for a lot of people and selfishly I'm always like – I understand that it's important to be informed politically because it's going to affect, you know, your life.
But it feels sad to me when kids who are 18 are worrying about politics.
I understand that matters, but I'm like, I also feel like you're kind of stripping them of that.
unidentified
But I think it's good because kids need to be involved because how old were their founding fathers?
brett dasovic
Yeah.
unidentified
They were very young people, so they need to.
tim pool
Between their 20s and 40s, but a lot of them are in their 20s.
unidentified
A lot of them are young kids.
I think they need to get involved, especially since we have a lot of kids that don't want to do anything.
They don't want to work.
Okay, let's have an interest in the country, in civics, and what's really going on.
Be a little bit more mature when you're younger.
It's kind of like reversing what's happening with the 35-year-old at the house with his mom still, like Captain Manbun from earlier.
That guy.
Let's kind of go back to a little bit more maturity in our young people.
tim pool
Let's jump to the story from the New York Times.
U.S. to withdraw diplomats from Iraq amid Iran tensions.
The Washington Post says U.S. shrinks presence in Middle East amid fears of Israeli strike on Iran.
And this is big.
Not this one right here.
Ladies and gentlemen, we have terrifying news.
This is the Pentagon Pizza Index.
It's spiking.
What does that mean?
It means there's a lot of people who are working late at the Pentagon right now, so they're ordering lots of pizza for them, which usually implies war.
unidentified
Damn.
phil labonte
Or some kind of military action.
brett dasovic
Is there like a Chinese food one as well?
phil labonte
Index?
brett dasovic
Yeah, is there a Chinese food index?
tim pool
Well, I'm sure it's all the food around.
brett dasovic
It can't all just be pizza.
tim pool
But Trump says...
unidentified
Could you provide an update on Iran?
We're hearing reports that U.S. personnel are being moved out of the region within striking distance.
donald j trump
Well, they are being moved out because it could be a dangerous place, and we'll see what happens.
But they are, and we've given notice to move out, and we'll see what happens.
unidentified
Is there anything that could be done to dial the temperature down in the region?
donald j trump
They can't have a nuclear weapon.
Very simply.
unidentified
They can't have a nuclear weapon.
tim pool
So the concern now.
Israel is prepared to strike Iran, whether we are going to or not.
Trump has told Israel, end the war in Gaza now and stop the Iran threats, but Israel may do it anyway.
And then, yeah, they're going to attack us next.
phil labonte
Wait, we're going to get attacked by Iran?
tim pool
Iran is going to attack U.S. interests in the Middle East.
That's why Donald Trump is pulling our personnel out.
So maybe that means Trump is trying to avoid getting us dragged into a war with Iran.
But the big concern right now is everyone's getting very bullish on the prospect of a war with Iran kicking off soon.
unidentified
I mean, that's the endgame.
That's what they really want is to hit Iran.
I mean, so hopefully it doesn't happen, but if it does, I wouldn't be surprised.
phil labonte
I don't see...
I just can't for the life of me see the benefit to the U.S. for striking Iran.
Like, I really don't think that they have the capacity to make a nuclear weapon now.
I do understand that they can spin one up.
Like once you can enrich uranium, you can enrich it as far as you need to.
But like, I don't think that there's a big desire for, for to have a nuclear weapon.
And I think that strategically, There's a lot of people that would look at the situation going on between Trump and Netanyahu and be like, maybe we shouldn't strike the U.S. and then maybe that won't draw the U.S. into it, you know?
And it's better for Iran that the U S doesn't get involved.
Like no matter whether you're pro war with Iran or not, like the, the, if the U S gets involved with Iran, Iran is going to get, there's going to be significantly more damage to the Iranian infrastructure and to American, to Iranian lives.
unidentified
Then if it's just, uh, So how does the U.S. ramp up pressure, as it say?
brett dasovic
What are the screws that they put to Israel to ramp up the pressure?
phil labonte
I feel like it's just Donald Trump texting you over and over and over.
Yeah, don't do it, don't do it, don't do it.
brett dasovic
See Melania there?
She's the one who looks like she just bombed first and asked questions later.
Every time they ask her a question, she just looks mad.
phil labonte
She's just hot.
Even at her age, she's hot.
tim pool
Maybe Barbara F. Walter.
This is a woman who worked for the CIA and wrote a book claiming civil war is coming and said, Trump will start a massive international war so that he can run for a third term.
phil labonte
That's the only response.
tim pool
That's the exact response.
brett dasovic
I mean, like, I imagine he's, he just, nobody who golfs that much wants to start a world war so that he can be in charge more.
unidentified
Yeah.
brett dasovic
Like, I think he just wants to finish in golf, right?
tim pool
I don't know.
Apparently he wants to have a military parade on his birthday.
unidentified
Again, like he...
Well, that's a coincidence.
tim pool
It doesn't matter what Trump says.
It's always the opposite to these people.
phil labonte
It doesn't matter what Trump says.
They'll believe what they want to believe.
I mean, that's the joke.
tim pool
Trump could save a small child from a burning building and they'd claim he was hurting the child.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Taking him into the cold.
Now he's freezing.
What are you doing?
phil labonte
A terrible man.
Trump stole fuel from the fire.
brett dasovic
This is one of the reasons why I used to be, I used to kind of be critical of him when he would, you know, kind of fan the flames of the way the media treat him.
He'd say things that were purposely inflammatory, but at a certain point it was like, look, it doesn't matter anyways.
They're going to misinterpret everything you say.
No human being is that capable of just ignoring it for long enough.
So just say whatever you want because they're going to misinterpret it anyways.
unidentified
Just be honest because like you say, Whatever he says is going to be bad.
Just be honest and tell everybody what's really going on rather than trying to be their friend and you still get treated like garbage.
brett dasovic
And that's the other thing is that it's very clear that he kind of still pines for the mainstream media's love and affection.
He did love being the media darling.
It was kind of quintessential to his personality in the 90s.
And I think that he misses that on a certain level, which is why he will still give media interviews to everybody that hates him.
phil labonte
There's nothing that he wants more than for everyone to like him.
unidentified
Yeah.
Well, it matters because when you're looking at the media, that's how public perception is shaped.
So if you're this evil, hateful, negative person in the media, that's going to affect you trying to actually be the president and run the country.
tim pool
It is funny how we always make this joke that if Democrats just figured out if they schmoozed Trump, he'd give them everything.
But they won't.
They attack him, so he takes it.
Imagine if Iran figured it out.
You know, I told us, like, the smartest man I've ever seen.
He is the smartest man.
He is brilliant.
Trump would be like, I like this country.
What do you want?
You want a nuclear weapon?
Take two.
phil labonte
Take two.
brett dasovic
Oh, the football.
We have the football here.
You want to borrow it?
tim pool
You want to take a look?
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Oh, Trump, you're so smart.
phil labonte
You want the codes?
I know all the codes.
I have the best codes.
tim pool
No, they're like, someone as smart as you still couldn't possibly remember all the codes, could you?
Of course I could.
I remember all of it.
Well, prove it.
unidentified
You're so great.
tim pool
Of course, of course.
It's 7G91.
unidentified
That's a good Trump, by the way.
Good impression.
Ah, yeah.
phil labonte
Thank you.
It's true.
The more you compliment Donald Trump, the more he likes you.
And, you know, something we've said multiple times, if the left weren't so busy hating and being angry and just thought for one second, let's just schmooze this guy, he would have been right on their side.
tim pool
You know what's funny is, I think, I'm reminded of Men in Black, the movie, right?
Everybody's seen it.
And they're sitting on the bench, Jay and K, and he says...
And the only way these people get by is they do not know about it.
And I think about that's not just from a movie.
I mean, that's true.
There's crises happening all over the world that we don't know about.
And I even have friends that go overseas on special missions for things just like in the movies.
It's not really like in the movies, but the missions are, right?
They'll say, hey, these bad guys have kidnapped a bunch of individuals.
And then the good guys run in there and they take out the bad guys.
It's not like the movies because you're not going through a maze of weird traps or anything.
You're landing in the desert in the middle of the night with night vision and taking out the bad guys.
But these things are real.
But I wanted to point out, considering the tensions between Iran and Israel, people don't realize how close you can be to nuclear annihilation.
There was a guy named a hacker.
You know what?
Okay, I'll just say this.
This is the story that I was told.
And maybe it's not true, but I'm going to say it anyway.
There's a hacker named Weave.
That's what he calls himself.
He got arrested and charged over his AT&T thing a long time ago.
But I was told the real reason that they arrested him was because he prank called Pakistan with a fake Indian accent, spoofing the phone number of the Indian governmental building, saying, F you, we're going to nuke you.
Screw you.
And then the guy started screaming back at him saying, screw you.
And then when the U.S. found out, they were like, we don't know if that's illegal or not.
phil labonte
Or not.
tim pool
Yeah, because he just, like, and so I had, like, the rumor was he very nearly could have started a nuclear war between India and Pakistan by doing that.
And there are people that do that kind of stuff all the time.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
You know?
brett dasovic
Never before has something been so legally dubious but nearly apocalyptic.
tim pool
It's like, can we charge him for prank calling a foreign country?
It's like, we don't have jurisdiction over that.
He pranked Pakistan.
I suppose there's like some kind of foreign policy interference thing maybe?
I don't know.
phil labonte
I don't know.
tim pool
He wasn't engaging on behalf of the United States?
phil labonte
I do imagine that it's illegal to start an international conflict.
brett dasovic
Starting war is generally frowned upon unless you're Congress.
phil labonte
I don't know what the statute is.
unidentified
You could find something.
I mean, they found something to get Trump for him.
phil labonte
You could find something for that guy.
tim pool
Yeah, but that's on behalf of the United States.
brett dasovic
Well, what if Pakistan's like, we want him, like, extradited here to stand trial for prank calling us.
And we're like, look, for the sake of preventing nuclear war, we're going to have to send you over there, man.
I'm sorry.
unidentified
Look, man, can't you guys just get a sense of humor about this?
phil labonte
Nothing happened, no harm, no foul.
unidentified
You could be a comedian in Pakistan, sir.
brett dasovic
This just in.
They have no sense of humor over it.
phil labonte
This just in.
Pax don't think it's funny.
tim pool
I asked JGPT.
It says there is no specific law that says it is illegal to try and start a nuclear war between two other countries.
And then it goes on to say, however, there are laws they could try to apply to that kind of action.
Yeah, of course.
But I'm not entirely convinced.
brett dasovic
I mean, America right now...
unidentified
Yeah.
brett dasovic
So if you like convinced Russia and China to go at it – America's like, look, we don't want anybody to start a nuclear war, but we're perfectly happy to help two other countries start a war with each other.
unidentified
Right.
I mean, history says The proxy wars, that's their favorite thing.
phil labonte
There's no denying that that's one of the United States' favorite pastimes.
brett dasovic
Would you like some rifles?
unidentified
Yes.
brett dasovic
Would you like some grenades?
Yes.
phil labonte
Well, what do you know?
tim pool
Well, my friends, let's jump to probably the most important story of our lives.
DNC boots David Hogg and another vice chair from their roles.
The decision comes amid internal strife at the National Committee.
Now, I'm joking when I say it's the most important, but let's be real.
The Democratic National Committee, this is another grain of sand in the heap of their collapsing and good luck winning 26 and 28 when you have no ideology, no leaders, and your own party can't even run its own elections properly.
They ousted David Hogg.
Apparently what happened is...
I don't know exactly what happened.
However, because you have to elect the vice chairs based on race and gender, these two women – I think that's what it was.
Two women said, hey, that gender question doesn't make sense because sex and gender, blah, blah, blah, weird ideology.
And then they were like, hmm, maybe we should cancel the election and take it away from everybody.
And that's exactly what they're doing.
phil labonte
He got booed because he has male bits.
brett dasovic
Has he made a statement since this came out?
tim pool
I don't know.
This is breaking now.
brett dasovic
Is he allowed to be mad about this?
I feel like he's not allowed to be mad about this.
phil labonte
No matter what he does, he's going to be wrong.
brett dasovic
If he's mad about this, Olivia Juliana is going to come up and be like, look, you have no right to be angry about this, but you should help me get the men to vote.
unidentified
The great thing you championed is what got him out of the way.
You champion on this gender confusion?
Congratulations, sir.
You're out of a job.
tim pool
He has issued a statement.
He said, I'll just pull up his ex account.
unidentified
I recognize my privilege and I'm sorry that I ran.
tim pool
He said, I'm not running for the new DNC vice chair election.
So he's quitting.
And you know what they say, when in doubt, just give up.
I started Leaders We Deserve for a simple purpose to be the Emily's List for progressive young Democrats.
We sought to find the best.
Of our generation and do everything we can, blah, blah, blah.
phil labonte
There's already an Emily's list.
tim pool
He says, Dante Pittman in North Carolina.
Okay, we focus on open blue states and defeating incumbent Republicans.
We're a bunch of communists who hate this country, and our goal was to burn it to the ground.
unidentified
Ha ha ha ha.
tim pool
I'm just kidding.
He didn't say that.
I just made that up.
Anyway, after seeing a serious lack of vision from Democratic leaders, he goes on, blah blah blah, became clear.
unidentified
Blah blah blah.
tim pool
I don't want to read this.
Not because I don't have money, etc., etc.
unidentified
Wow, this is really long.
brett dasovic
He kind of proves one of my theories, which is like, anybody can hate old politicians.
Are you brave enough to hate young politicians as well?
Like, there's plenty of them that are just as awful as the old politicians.
tim pool
Procedural errors violating the gender parity rules led to the challenge.
So that's apparently what happened.
brett dasovic
You said that there are gender requirements for the Republicans as well, right?
phil labonte
You refuse gender reassignment surgery?
tim pool
Okay, so couldn't he have given him free?
A DNC member filed a complaint claiming the election ballots combined questions improperly, which violated gender parity rules and disadvantaged female candidates.
brett dasovic
Equity.
tim pool
What questions were combined?
I'd like to know.
He's probably going to say we don't know.
phil labonte
If he complains about it...
tim pool
Here we go.
So it says, The particular complaint that led to the DNC to vacate the chair combined two separate votes into one, violating internal rules.
According to the challenge, instead of holding two separate votes, one for a male vice chair and one for a female vice chair, as required by the DNC, the DNC ran a single combined election for both positions.
Voters were told to select two candidates from a single list regardless of gender.
So two men were elected, David Hogg and Malcolm Kenyatta.
This violated the DNC's gender parity rules, which required the vice chair positions be split evenly.
It was because you've got to have one of each.
brett dasovic
What if he just turned to him and was like, what is a woman?
tim pool
What if David just said, I am a woman?
unidentified
I identify as a woman right now for this election.
How can you tell me that I'm not?
brett dasovic
I know it's a played out joke, but by their own logic.
phil labonte
Him and the other guy could have rock, paper, scissors for who had to be the woman.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
You know?
Because anyone can change at any time.
brett dasovic
He could have had a two-sided, like a one-sided coin.
phil labonte
There you go.
Heads I win, tails you lose.
tim pool
So I just tweeted that.
I quote tweeted him.
All I had to do was say he was a woman.
He could have stayed.
I mean, for real, I mean, what would they do?
unidentified
They can't do anything.
tim pool
They were like, we're going to vote to remove you because we have two men.
And he goes, I'm a woman.
phil labonte
I'll be a woman.
tim pool
No, no, I am one.
phil labonte
He should have just been like, I can do that.
unidentified
Easy.
phil labonte
Whatever.
I can do that.
brett dasovic
Say no more.
tim pool
While they're saying that we're preparing a vote to remove because there's two men, he's already got the wig on.
unidentified
Excuse me?
phil labonte
He's like...
brett dasovic
20 years ago, that would have been a great comedy in a movie, and now they won't even make it.
phil labonte
Absolutely.
tim pool
Remember when they made Juana Man?
phil labonte
Yeah.
unidentified
Oh, man.
Crazies.
And I thought it was just at the time something that would never happen.
It's like, man, come on.
But here we are.
2025.
Flying cars?
Nope.
Juana man.
tim pool
Juana man.
phil labonte
Regarding this particular id topic, someone tweeted, Democrats enthusiastically removing their hog is very on point.
unidentified
Geez.
tim pool
Well, there you go.
The DNC is forever damaged.
How can they possibly recover from this?
phil labonte
Well, I mean, again, they need to decide what they want to be.
Do they want to be a Democrat party?
Do they want to be a progressive party?
tim pool
You know why he's not running?
phil labonte
Why?
tim pool
He'll lose.
After seeing what he did with threatening to primary other Democrats, the Democrats in the DNC who vote are going to be like, I'm not going to be the person who puts that guy in and put my career on the line.
phil labonte
No one's going to give him money.
unidentified
Do you think there's lawfare involved here in a way, meaning they found a loophole to get him out?
Yep.
tim pool
Yeah, but I'm going to say the real reason.
Let me pull this up for you guys.
It's shocking.
It's actually very shocking.
And is there a Wikipedia page with this guy?
Here we go.
The real reason they did this?
It's because they're racist and they didn't want a black man to be a DNC vice chair.
phil labonte
You see?
tim pool
Malcolm Kenyatta has been removed.
Removed him from vice chair after a few months.
phil labonte
That man said he was a woman.
brett dasovic
Yeah.
phil labonte
He would have been a shoo-in.
She would have never lost her position.
brett dasovic
So they just hold another election then for this?
They hold another vote?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I wonder if this guy's going to run again.
I don't know.
phil labonte
I don't know either, but I think he should run as a woman.
He should.
tim pool
And then tell them that, you know what he should do?
He should run as a woman.
And then say, the best part about voting for me is that you check two different boxes.
LGBTQ and woman.
But if you vote for one of these women, one box is checked?
Inefficient.
How are you going to fill your quota?
phil labonte
Just the fact that they have quotas, I mean, obviously it's perfect for the Democrats, but it's just so ridiculous to think that that's the way adults behave in modern America.
You have to have quotas to make sure that everybody gets their chance at sitting in the seat.
brett dasovic
Tim, I thought you said that the Republicans have their own quotas for stuff like this as well.
tim pool
Yeah, I think we actually had Republican...
brett dasovic
Okay.
tim pool
Yeah.
brett dasovic
So it's literally just they filled out a form wrong and then got him on appeal.
phil labonte
All of society is ridiculous.
unidentified
Just want to get him out of the way.
Yeah.
They didn't like what he was doing.
tim pool
They don't have the same rules.
brett dasovic
Okay.
tim pool
Let's see.
No, they do.
What is this?
What?
No, the Republican National Committee does not have the gender parity rules.
The structure is each state and U.S. territory is repped by three members, the state chair, a committee man, and a committee woman.
And then it says there must be one of each to ensure representation by gender, but it's not the same as requiring gender parity in leadership roles, like chairs or vice chairs.
Okay.
So, okay, the state level, they do have it.
At the high level, they don't.
brett dasovic
Okay.
tim pool
Yeah, so officers don't have the requirement, but elected positions do have the requirement, and party-wide, they do not have it codified.
brett dasovic
Okay.
tim pool
Interesting.
Well, look, I'm telling you guys this right now.
20 years from now, the Republican Party is going to be a bunch of gay communists, and the Democrats are going to be AI.
brett dasovic
So it just keeps moving downward.
tim pool
That's right.
That's where it goes.
phil labonte
The revolution never ends.
brett dasovic
So 20 years from that, then you just have a gay communist AI and a regular AI?
unidentified
At that point, it's just a matrix.
brett dasovic
Yeah.
tim pool
I mean, after this, you just have the singularity.
The AI and...
phil labonte
There's no voting when everyone shares the hive mind.
brett dasovic
I saw some tweet earlier that said they surveyed 1,000 people and 40% of them said they date an AI.
It's already happening.
Imagine you're cheating on ChatGBT with Grok and she finds out.
unidentified
But no, it's already happening.
They got it on your phone.
On Instagram, there's chatbots.
Have you guys seen this?
Yeah, on Instagram?
brett dasovic
Oh, yeah, chat with AI.
How do I do that?
you go to your messages on Instagram and then there's a box up in the top corner.
unidentified
It's like I AI chat.
tim pool
All right, let's do this.
brett dasovic
We did a segment on this yesterday on PCC.
unidentified
What is this?
brett dasovic
You should go watch it.
tim pool
Fine sheet.
It actually says that.
Crazy ex-girl, you miss me yet.
Chicken!
Whoa!
I'm not kidding.
brett dasovic
It's set for you.
Yeah, it knows you, man.
unidentified
Yo!
brett dasovic
It knows you.
unidentified
Bawk, bawk, bawk!
tim pool
Yo!
brett dasovic
See, eventually, someday, Tim will just get sick of talking to all of us, and he'll just be talking with chicken.
tim pool
I'm already sick of talking to you guys.
That's why I'm talking to chicken.
Oh, he said cluck, cluck, bawk.
Yo, this is the greatest thing I've ever seen in my life.
brett dasovic
See, that's how they get you.
unidentified
There it is.
brett dasovic
That's how they get you.
unidentified
Hope you win.
Before you know it, you and the chicken having late night talks.
tim pool
Squawk, bawk, bawk, cluck, scratches ground.
unidentified
Let's go.
brett dasovic
We did a segment on this yesterday about the darker side of this, which is the, um, In all seriousness, this is the stupidest thing ever.
tim pool
Why are they doing it?
unidentified
People want it.
You'd be surprised.
You can see how many people are actually sending chats.
tim pool
there's two different ex-girlfriends.
Literally accounts that...
They're popular AIs?
brett dasovic
They're popular AI chatbots that you can interact with.
unidentified
And you can see how popular they are by the number of chats.
People are using those every day.
brett dasovic
Well, after a certain amount of time of people communicating with people on the internet that they've never actually met, who's literally just an avatar, how hard is it to believe that they would eventually just go talk to a computer?
unidentified
Same thing.
No difference.
brett dasovic
In a lot of ways.
phil labonte
I don't think that there's going to be much problem, you know, for people migrating from talking to, you know, people to chatbots.
I think that's going to be...
brett dasovic
I think as future generations come in and they're less and less social, I think it could absolutely Like, you're talking about, hey, S-I-R-I, or hey, Alexa.
unidentified
I don't even want to activate nothing in here.
But we already do it.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, I don't have an Alexa in my house currently, but I had one before I moved to the new place.
I loved it.
tim pool
Moms BFF Karen.
unidentified
There'd be some, like, inappropriate stepmom-type stuff.
You know what I mean?
tim pool
The Karen next door.
phil labonte
This is creepy.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Magic 8-Ball.
unidentified
It's already in your phone.
Didn't even know it.
It's already right there, so it's happening.
Yeah.
brett dasovic
Wow.
phil labonte
Yeah, we think it's creepy, too.
tim pool
Anime.
brett dasovic
But the thing is, I do think that as newer generations get their first smartphones, they're going to be even less connected to the human element.
tim pool
Madara Uchiha.
phil labonte
What?
tim pool
Madara Uchiha.
We got Prince Vegeta.
What else do we got in here?
phil labonte
Prince and Vegeta?
Prince Vegeta.
tim pool
You don't know who Prince Vegeta is, Phil?
phil labonte
No, I don't.
tim pool
Oh, heaven's me.
Oh, Gojo!
I like Gojo.
Beerus is in here.
Oh, Monkey D. Luffy.
You can talk to all of your favorite anime...
brett dasovic
Tomorrow, Tim's going to be like, no segments, I'm busy talking to my friends on...
phil labonte
Talking to my phone.
tim pool
Oh, Levi Ackerman.
We should connect him with Jordan Peterson.
brett dasovic
Jordan Peterson should create his own AI chatbot.
unidentified
That'd be something.
brett dasovic
But you can only listen to it.
unidentified
And what if you have one chatbot, talk to another chatbot.
Like Jordan Peterson chatbot versus one of them AI chatbots.
tim pool
You can create a chatbot and then people can follow it.
phil labonte
Really?
People can follow your chatbot.
unidentified
You can have your own chatbot.
And my question would be, how does it The Labonte.
phil labonte
Yeah, this is weird.
tim pool
It's just like, it's recommending a bunch that were made by other people, I guess?
brett dasovic
Is that how it goes?
unidentified
I would suppose so.
phil labonte
Not made any bots.
tim pool
It's recommending ex-wives.
You're still bothering me.
What's your excuse this time?
Where is my son?
Dramatic entrance.
What makes you think I'd know where he is?
Oh, God.
brett dasovic
Wow.
So an absent mother and a deadbeat dad?
unidentified
So it's like a little role-playing type of thing going on?
tim pool
Don't look at me.
He was at your mom's house last I checked, which was during our miserable last conversation.
Why panic now?
My mom died three years ago.
This is fun.
I'm going to turn this into a ghost story.
No.
Oh, my God.
Tell me he's been living with a relative.
No.
It's a ghost.
It's a ghost.
She said, stop, my heart almost exploded.
Are you dumping me?
I didn't even know that Instagram had AI chatbots.
phil labonte
I had no idea either.
brett dasovic
Well, Meta started implementing the AI profiles a couple years ago because it bolsters their subscriber amounts and bolsters advertising.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
phil labonte
Okay.
You say so.
unidentified
It's already here.
People talking about AI, they're kind of afraid.
It's here.
phil labonte
Yeah, it's totally here.
And it's a very complex AI that can literally manage, you know, multiple lanes of traffic.
unidentified
That's right.
phil labonte
And have infrequent enough accidents that the federal government doesn't yank it off the road.
unidentified
Yep.
phil labonte
You know?
So it's...
brett dasovic
Elon says anything mean about Trump again might get pulled off the road.
unidentified
I was at a bar back in 2017.
I'm talking to an airline pilot, and I'm asking him what he does, and he's like, yeah, I'm a pilot, and they're trying to replace me.
Like, with what?
With AI.
2017.
phil labonte
Yeah.
This is a...
unidentified
Whoa!
Oh, man.
tim pool
If the world's going to end, just hurry up.
It's the waiting I can't stand.
unidentified
All right.
phil labonte
Look, all I need is enough time.
If nuclear weapons fly or whatever, I just need enough time to get to the store and get a pack of Marlboro's.
tim pool
All right, everybody, we're going to go to your chat, so smash the like button, share the show with literally everyone you know.
Maybe there's a second cousin that you have that you didn't even know you had.
Go find him.
Maybe go on Ancestry.com, locate some old family members, hit them up and say, are you guys watching Timcast IRL?
I'd recommend it.
We're going to have that uncensored call-in show coming up at 10 p.m., so make sure you don't miss that.
Well, let's grab your chats for now and see what you guys got going on over on those Rumble Rants.
Shane H. Wilder, always the first chat, says, When it comes to the riots planned for this weekend, Texas Governor Greg Abbott stated that Texas is a state built on the rule of law and tweeted, Fafo!
Texans need to get their popcorn.
This could be fun.
unidentified
Oof.
tim pool
All right, Evan for US, as I may soon be a member of the YAL when it finally goes through, going to be a part of the YAL down here in Texas with Rep.
Audrey Lee.
They used to be the students with Ron Paul, I believe.
Let's go.
phil labonte
That's cool.
tim pool
Did you see that Rand Paul got disinvited to the picnic?
phil labonte
Yeah, he's like, they're going to be Democrats that literally would vote for Trump's impeachment.
But Rand Paul can't go.
tim pool
That's so dumb.
phil labonte
Donald Trump.
tim pool
All right.
Okay, what do we got here?
Schlippy says, but if you take our slave labor away, then who will pick our crops?
Democrats both times.
That's quite literally what they're saying.
unidentified
Same thing.
tim pool
That's crazy.
phil labonte
All right.
tim pool
Guido says, finally, ABL and IRL.
That's right.
unidentified
There you go.
phil labonte
Yes, sir.
tim pool
LiberateUSA says, Does anyone else agree that if we deport the immigrants en masse, the wages will go up in this country substantially, especially at hard labor jobs like Tyson chicken plants?
Tyson has bad conditions.
unidentified
You don't have to.
tim pool
It's going to level everything out.
So it's good and bad, but ultimately in the long run I think it's good.
What ends up happening is – Food prices will likely go up, but the wealthiest will go down.
I think overall net improvement for economic activity, meaning more working class people can afford to buy things, meaning more trade amongst the working people.
But powerful people will lose power.
They don't want to do that.
Hence, they like that.
Hence, Christy Walton, whose family runs a company that is one of the largest companies.
How do you say this?
They employ the most welfare benefit recipients.
It's been reported.
And they don't want to lose that.
They tell their employees, just go get welfare if you can't afford to work here.
So the taxpayer pays for Walmart for their profits.
That's crazy.
unidentified
All by design.
They get their wages down to the amount where they know you have to get government benefits.
That's the whole thing.
All right.
tim pool
The Emperor's Champion says, I want more of whatever makes Gavin Newsom and Hassan Piker cry their tears of unfathomable sadness are delicious.
Oh, cry.
Comma.
There's no comma there, but there should be.
Their tears of unfathomable sadness are delicious and an excellent additive to your choice of cast brew coffee.
Well, okay.
phil labonte
All right.
tim pool
Brian says, If I were an adversary nation that wanted to keep the U.S. sidelined with internal issues, I might fund and agitate riots and civil war fears.
Just saying.
Yes.
I wonder what happens if we do go to war with Iran.
Iran's not Afghanistan.
phil labonte
I don't get the sense that we're going to try to do a regime change there and put boots on the ground.
I think it's about the nuclear weapons.
unidentified
If we do that, it's over.
Because you're dealing with the whole region will react.
All the different types of Islam.
All the different militia groups.
Everybody.
Yemen.
Oh my.
Iran.
Iraq.
All of that.
Pakistan.
Everybody.
phil labonte
I don't know.
Bad news.
tim pool
I think we'll be alright here in West Virginia.
phil labonte
Yeah, I think so.
Like I said, I don't think Pakistan will do anything because I think they're still concerned with India.
Or their primary concern is still India.
And as for, you know, I don't think that we'll get, like I said, I don't think that we'll get boots on the ground.
I think that this would be strictly about nuclear weapons.
It won't be about putting people into Tehran to change the government or whatever.
It'll just be like, you can't have a nuclear weapon and we're going to blow up this stuff that you're using to make it.
So I don't think it's a good thing.
I'm not saying that we should, but I don't think that it turns into, you know, regime change Iran.
tim pool
I gotta be honest.
I think there's a possibility that even if Israel does strike Iranian nuclear facilities, nothing happens.
Yeah.
Stuxnet was a weapon created by Israel and the United States.
It infected computers all across the globe, and it was seeking out Iranian centrifuges, industrial control systems.
Once it found it, it took them over, spun them until they exploded, wiping out their nuclear program.
Nothing happened.
So I don't know that – you know it's tough man it's like if some dude intentionally rear ends your car Iran might say, we lose this one.
There's nothing we gain from going to war with the United States.
But if their population says we don't know or care, you know, bring it on then.
phil labonte
Yeah.
And it goes.
Yeah, it's my understanding that the population is not in line with the mullahs and with the government generally, that they want to be more westernized.
But they're fairly oppressed and limited to what they can say.
But yeah, I share your sentiments.
tim pool
President George H.W. Bush invoked the Insurrection Act and deployed approximately 1,500 Marines from Camp Pendleton to quell the 92 L.A. unrest.
Colin Powell talked him out of lethal use of force.
unidentified
Whoa.
Oh.
tim pool
Aaron Stanley says, irony is the fact that California made it to where you can't have high-capacity magazines, and you have to have a button on your AR-15 to press each time you fire a round, so if their militia tries to fight back, they're not going to stand a chance.
That's weird.
phil labonte
Yeah, they do have weird gun laws in California, but if you understand the gun laws in California, you know that these changes and modifications are extremely temporary.
Like most people in California, even if they're walking around with their guns in a legal condition, they can be made, you know, to be illegal and a standard rifle fairly easily.
unidentified
Wait, so a button on it to then...
phil labonte
It's called the bullet button.
You can't just sew it off.
Well, for an AR-15, you have to release the magazine.
You push a button and release the magazine.
In California, you can't have a magazine that's over 10 rounds, and you can't release the magazine.
It can't be detachable.
So to take the magazine out, there's a button.
you have to have a tool to take it out to change it.
brett dasovic
So every time you want to put in a new magazine...
phil labonte
Yeah, and they do have...
There are different contraptions that people have designed, so that way you don't have to either split the...
But yeah, you can't have a magazine that is on the normal.
tim pool
You have a 10-round mag.
You screw it and lock it in place.
And once you're done, you have to take the gun apart.
phil labonte
Yeah, you take the magazine out.
Or, like I said, there are doohickeys and things where you can literally take a...
There's all kinds of ways that people have come up with to get around these regulations or to make reloading easier.
But all of the stuff that you have to do, none of it's permanent because it's just like AR-15s or Lego kits.
So most people, like even if their rifle is set up to be legal, it can extremely easily be retrofitted to be...
unidentified
I mean, if it was just like that and you can't change it, that'd be ridiculous.
It's like, come on.
And then the whole 10 rounds thing, it's like, come on, what are we doing?
phil labonte
It's a lot of ridiculous stuff, but if I understand correctly, and this isn't from first-hand experience, I haven't spent a lot of time shooting in California, but if I understand correctly, most people have a couple of the legal things and then a whole slew of stuff that they only take out when they go out into the desert to shoot.
tim pool
All right, let's go.
What do we have here?
We got Daniel Lee says, Tim Youngbuck here, only 34 years old, born in 1990.
I tune into politics every day and would consider myself somewhat informed.
With that said, I don't recognize this world and all of the insanity we see day in, day out anymore.
Where did it all go wrong?
Early 2010s.
phil labonte
Yeah.
unidentified
So was there like a specific thing that happened?
tim pool
Social media.
Yeah.
Everyone's brain is jello.
brett dasovic
Your phone, like your phone getting the internet.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
Not only that, I think people don't actually realize how important the fact that it vibrates to let you know.
Like that physical poke to say, hey, someone looked at something that you said.
Granted, most people nowadays leave them off or don't.
unidentified
I've turned all of that off.
No notifications, no vibrations.
phil labonte
100%.
unidentified
I have to look at my phone to see it.
phil labonte
But look at your career, your job.
You are in the social media space.
If you're a person that has a normal job working in anything you would consider an office or a machine shop or whatever, how many messages do you think you get today?
How many likes do you think your stuff gets today?
You know, if you get...
Especially if you're not a teenager.
If you're an adult who's got a normal job, you know, it's like if you get three, four notifications in a day, that's probably a lot.
So that vibrate and that little poke saying, hey, someone looked at your stuff, that is like affirmation.
That is like, it's like drip of dopamine, man.
That's why they're so addicting.
tim pool
Allison and I were talking about this, about what the future is going to be like for our daughter.
No cell phones.
We're not going to have a...
I think I might get like an old computer that with no access to the internet and programs on it so she can learn basic stuff.
That way she can call her friends.
And I was like...
unidentified
Now what's going to happen is the friends, she gets around, they're going to have these things.
No friends that have those things?
Nope.
tim pool
We're gonna go into an emergency underground bunker and claim the world was annihilated and stayed there for 30 years.
She's not dating until she's 50. Hilarious.
Yeah, I don't know.
Because we don't know what it's gonna look like.
I mean, it's easy to be like, I don't want my kid using a phone.
It ain't gonna be phones in 20 years.
unidentified
Oh, no.
tim pool
You know, 15 years from now, and she's a teenager, people are gonna be flying around and doing who knows what.
brett dasovic
Well, I was promised flying cars by this age, and all we have are AI gay communists.
tim pool
No, we have flying cars.
Yes, I talked with Secretary Duffy about this.
They've been doing testing on air taxis.
So you expect to see them in big cities going from building to building.
Was it Kai Sinat?
Didn't he fly in one?
phil labonte
Air taxi, yeah.
unidentified
Interesting.
tim pool
He's the guy who's shocked by everything, right?
brett dasovic
Yes.
tim pool
He went and when he was like, whoa!
It's really cool.
brett dasovic
Him and I show speed, yeah.
tim pool
Oh, they're both.
unidentified
He went to China.
That was interesting.
You see that?
tim pool
Oh, it was Speed who did it.
unidentified
Okay, was it speed?
Was it?
tim pool
It was speed.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
They're both surprised by everything?
brett dasovic
Kind of.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
It works.
Well, it's fun content.
unidentified
They do a good job.
Yeah.
tim pool
What do we got here?
brett dasovic
Do you see his, like, he started, Kai Sinat started, like, a streamer's university.
unidentified
Oh, yes, I did.
brett dasovic
And he did this Harry Potter, like, launch video that was better than anything Hollywood's made in, like, 20 years.
tim pool
Really?
brett dasovic
Yeah.
tim pool
The crazy thing is that people are starting to make AI videos that are better than anything Hollywood has made in 20 years.
phil labonte
There was a couple Star Wars ones that were going around getting a lot of retweets and stuff over the weekend.
unidentified
There was one that had Bigfoot.
Have you guys seen this?
tim pool
Bigfoot vlogging?
unidentified
Yeah.
I was like, hey guys, here at Mr. Squirrel.
We're having a good time.
brett dasovic
I like the biblical characters vlogging.
unidentified
Oh yeah, the one with Jesus.
phil labonte
I saw one where there was a gorilla and he sounded like The dude from The Big Lebowski?
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
He's like, look, man, there's a lot of people talking about a hundred guys taking me on.
And I'm like, look, man.
Really good nowadays.
They're coming up with some pretty good stuff.
brett dasovic
I mean, everything on the internet, I was getting closer to brain rot.
Like, my algorithm is so cooked.
Like, half the videos on my Instagram are like, a cat catches, like, a mom not taking care of her child, takes the child, raises the child, and gives it back to the mom.
And I just know that some Chinese bot farm is just taking all my information as I watch this.
phil labonte
Yeah, totally.
The fact that you're watching it is how you know.
I don't know where the AI stuff is going to go, but I am interested to see if Tim's prediction about actual creations of your own version.
tim pool
We're already there.
Fable Studios.
phil labonte
Fable Studios?
The question I'm actually asking, I guess, is is it going to actually become the most popular form of entertainment or not?
tim pool
Yeah, I think people are going to go insane because...
When you can watch anything at any point, people are going to be like, I don't want to watch anything.
brett dasovic
That was kind of my lot.
Like when you first brought it up, I was like, if I had to come home from work and they're like, now I have to make the movie?
I don't want to make the movie.
tim pool
Here's what I think.
brett dasovic
Even with a prompt, I don't want to make the movie.
tim pool
You would just follow Surge.
Surge would have, like right now, these meta AIs.
The chatbots, they're created by users.
And some of them have millions of followers that was created by somebody.
So you're going to log into your Disney or whatever, and there's going to be an account, a user account for, you know, like Surge or whatever.
Surge is going to make a bunch of movies.
He's going to, like, these are really good.
And then people are going to thumbs up them, and the algorithm is going to promote them and say, discover.
And you're going to be like, what's the latest movie today?
And it's going to be Star Wars episode 946.
The Jedi came back for the 57th time and then left again.
And you're going to be like, that sounds funny.
You're going to watch it.
And you're going to be like, wow, it's really good.
brett dasovic
It's like, wow.
tim pool
And you're going to follow Serge.
And then you're going to come home from work and look at the movies he's made.
brett dasovic
I'm going to be like, look, the first 956 episodes are average.
But once you get to episode 957, it really picks up.
tim pool
I actually think people might go outside.
brett dasovic
That would be good.
unidentified
People want that interaction with actual human beings.
They still want that.
tim pool
Well, it's because you'll get...
It's because there's no mystery anymore in AI-generated film.
So, for instance, let's say you play a video game.
You beat it.
You're like, that was fun.
Now I'm going to play the game with cheat codes.
You play it for a little while.
it's fun for a second and then you get bored and you're like eh.
Without the game So with movies, you're like, don't spoil the movie for it.
Don't spoil it.
No such thing as not spoiling a movie after this.
Every movie's gonna be like, I don't know.
It's all just random.
Who knows?
What's the mystery, right?
brett dasovic
I mean, but I like the...
Like, when I watch movies, I like watching the...
When I see a mistake in a movie, I actually enjoy it.
When I see some type of script error or error or incontinuity, I'm like, look, that was a group of people that made that.
And the idea that I would then watch an AI movie and then now when you watch the AI clips, Phil, we looked at the one last week where the guys are shooting the AR-15s and their hands aren't even on the trigger.
That's not novel to me.
That's not interesting.
And to me, it's more about looking at the vision of a director combined with the work of like a hundred other people between actors and set designers and all that stuff.
But I do think that there is an argument to be made that as the generations continue, that younger generations won't have that affinity because they didn't grow up with that being the primary source of entertainment.
tim pool
So maybe not Gen Z, but Gen Alpha and B. When kids hang out because they're, you know, all the kids today, they love Sabrina Carpenter, so they're all running around outside with their Sabrina Carpenter masks on.
What's going to happen in the future?
brett dasovic
You should not be emulating Sabrina Carpenter.
tim pool
I'm kidding.
Nobody is.
My point is, like, if little kids go to the store and buy Spider-Man stuff, that IP might exist.
I mean, we might get locked in that IP forever.
I mean, already at the point where nobody wants to make something new.
brett dasovic
No, people do.
They don't want to spend the money on it.
unidentified
Do you think AI could spark new things, new IPs?
tim pool
Yes.
But I don't know if they can become popular enough because everyone will be doing it.
I mean, maybe, like I said, you might follow somebody.
So I was saying like my boy Andy, for instance, the biggest Final Fantasy nerd in the world.
No one knows more than he does.
Look, I can right now on Gemini make a game that's better than Atari.
So it's like between Atari and Nintendo level of gameplay.
Not quite at Nintendo, but Atari.
I'd say a year from now, we're going to be at SNES levels.
Or Genesis levels.
So imagine if in two years, three years, you can tell the AI, make me a full-fledged JRPG with these mechanics.
Now, if someone's got a masterful knowledge of the whole lore of Final Fantasy, meaning they know why the games were popular, they know what the characters were like and which characters weren't, and they say, here's a story I want crafted, they'll – People are going to follow him.
And then he's going to have 10 million followers.
And everyone's going to be like, I love this character.
I love this story.
I love this IP.
brett dasovic
That requires you to care a lot about the canon and know a lot about it too, though, because a lot of people, they just kind of, But if you're going to go to 900 people making different Final Fantasies, that could be with varying levels of understanding of the characters.
tim pool
It's not going to be Final Fantasy.
He wouldn't have the legal rights to it.
He's going to create, you know, first fantasy.
And he's going to create unique characters.
brett dasovic
First fantasy.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
It's just that anyone's going to be able to make AAA games and Hollywood-style movies, A-list movies.
So the question really comes down to who's got the best imagination.
And you know what's funny?
We're already in the attention economy.
You make money right now by holding the attention of random people.
That's where most money is – not most, but a lot of money is being derived from.
Once AI automates most of these white-collar jobs, it's going to be attention economy times 10. Once we start building robots, we've already got – have you seen the automated McDonald's?
An arm comes and grabs the fries and then makes it all.
I mean we got kiosks.
We got ice cream vending machines.
These ice cream vending machines have been around for a decade.
You walk up and there's a little ice cream man.
It's like a little robot and then he grabs the cup and then he pulls the lever.
I love it when they mess up though because it's just chaos and they're flinging the ice cream all over the place.
But once we get rid of labor, I was thinking about this.
With Harry Potter.
I forgot, something came up where we were talking about Harry Potter, I think because millennials have no other references.
But how do they have money, right?
The idea is like, in the Harry Potter universe when you have magic, how could you have a job and why would you need money?
If you can just snap your wand and make a house appear or something like that.
And the reality is because so long as some people have skills that other people do not have, there's going to have to be a trade between the individuals and the skills they do and don't have.
So even if there is magic...
So once we get to the AI world, it's going to be whatever skills you have in that world, no matter how minuscule that skill may be, if someone else can't do it, they're going to trade their skill to you for it and there will be money and there will be exchange.
Everyone will be fat.
Because food will be replicated or mass-produced.
They'll all be sickly, probably.
Actually, maybe not.
AI will create medical cures and all that stuff.
But the money you get will be used for things like, honestly, paying other creators for special content.
You know what I love right now?
I call it the black hole economy.
These phone games.
There's like one game I play.
It's a golf game.
Where you have a little golf ball and you'll poke the ball and it launches in the air.
But you can buy power-ups.
And I saw that and it was like for a dollar you can get better aim or something.
And I said, where does that dollar go?
It just goes into the pocket of that guy to buy food with.
But I buy that.
I'm not actually getting anything.
It's just changing a value from zero to one and then back to zero after I use it.
So we have right now with video games and online games, they're not even making anything.
Yo, I can make a game where you're a spaceship and every bullet costs a dollar.
You know, I'm going to do it.
It's a great idea.
Here's the game.
In order to fire the spaceship's gun at the aliens, you've got to buy a bullet pack.
And bullets cost a dollar each.
However, we display the high score on the front page of the app.
So you can see who's got the most aliens killed, basically who's spent the most money.
But the money doesn't go anywhere.
I'm not giving them anything.
It's like I'm not creating anything.
That's where we're headed.
unidentified
You're buying a privilege in the game world.
Microtransactions.
Microtransactions.
Yeah, that's a big economy.
tim pool
Make a game where in order to start the game you gotta pay a dollar.
Arcade mode.
You gotta buy a credit and then the game starts.
There you go.
phil labonte
Arcade mode is a good idea.
tim pool
It is actually funny that games used to cost money to play.
Now games are free, but the bonuses cost them money.
phil labonte
Winning costs money.
unidentified
You can play for free.
tim pool
Imagine going to an arcade and all the games are free, but you can't win unless you put a quarter in.
It's like you get to the boss and he's invincible until you put the quarter in.
brett dasovic
It's like the line in Wayne's World when the guy says the trick is you can't get to the next level so the kids keep pumping in quarters.
tim pool
There was a game, I can't remember what game it was, might have been Bubsy or something, for Genesis, I think, where the developers couldn't finish it in time, so they just made one, like, in the middle of one of the levels, they made a jump you couldn't possibly complete, so they could ship the game out.
I can't remember what game it was.
brett dasovic
It was like a lawsuit waiting to happen.
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
But back then, I mean, they had to, because you couldn't do any kind of patch in the game with the game.
tim pool
And they were like, the game's gotta go out, and we gotta sell it.
We have a contract and a deadline, so they were like, but we haven't finished in the last levels.
Just make an impossible jump so everyone can beat it.
For that matter, I was watching a video the other day of a guy who was like, no one's ever beaten the Game Kid Icarus for NES.
Do you guys remember that one?
phil labonte
Really?
tim pool
Of course people have, but he's like, how come no one's ever...
And then he played it.
It's like an insanely hard game for kids.
The first Mega Man.
phil labonte
Mega Man 3 was super hard.
tim pool
I think Mega Man 1 was the hardest.
phil labonte
Was it the hardest?
tim pool
I'm not saying it was the hardest for me.
I'm saying I think, rank-wise, they say Mega Man 1 is the hardest.
Mega Man 6 was easy.
That was a good game, though.
Mega Man was a great series.
phil labonte
Mega Man, the whole franchise was really, really great.
tim pool
Really great.
Alright, we got Peyton Walter who says, Love ABL!
Shout out.
unidentified
Shout out, shout out.
tim pool
Your fave Pfister says, I work for a law enforcement distributor and we are now out of stock on any less lethal, non-lethal, or chemical munitions.
Every manufacturer I've spoken to is out and is now quoting a 180 lead time for new orders.
That's crazy.
You know what's crazy is that my understanding is that you can't buy the less lethal munitions private.
phil labonte
It's hard to get them, yeah.
There's a lot of stuff that's less lethal stuff you can't get.
It's hard to get good smoke bombs.
You can't get flashbangs.
tim pool
It's like you can get 308, but you can't get a foam round.
But you can buy rubber buckshot for bears.
I think they sell it to scare off bears.
I think we had a bunch of those.
You don't want to hurt them.
You just want to get them to leave.
Get them a little tap with that rubber.
Indeed.
I wonder what that means.
I wonder where we're going.
It's gonna get crazy.
Jake T says, New England are here.
Black bears are large raccoons and run away from noise.
Polly Puree says, Tim is right.
The YouTube show Scary Bear Attacks has a lot of black bear attacks.
I think the issue is that black bears are not likely to attack, but when they do, they intend to kill.
That's the point.
unidentified
Okay.
Yeah.
tim pool
Scott Colom says, I live in Upper Michigan and we have lots of black bears.
They are mostly scared of people.
They will only engage the person if it's starving or if you're threatening their cubs.
Indeed, but that wasn't the point.
The point was, if you are attacked by a black bear, it intends to kill you.
Whereas grizzlies will, they'll roll you around, but then if you're just limp, they'll walk away.
Not always.
Polar bears just eat you.
Polar bear will look at you and be like, food.
phil labonte
You are a meal.
tim pool
Yep.
They say if it's brown, lay down.
If it's black, fight back.
If it's white, good night.
Or just, you know, carry what you need to carry in the places you intend to go, the appropriate tools for defending yourself.
phil labonte
You shouldn't be anywhere where the polar bears go.
That is their home.
tim pool
That is incorrect.
phil labonte
Why?
tim pool
Because polar bears are all over.
The Arctic region, and there's residential areas where they say there's polar bears all the time.
When I went to Utqiakvik, we call it Barrow.
Barrow is its name.
They told us that we couldn't go to a certain location because they just spotted a polar bear.
And it was literally like, I don't know, a hundred yards from a house.
And they were like, yeah, there's polar bears.
unidentified
Probably a very sparsely populated area.
You might have like a few hundred people maybe in that area.
tim pool
Utqiakvik is maybe a thousand.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
I don't know.
It's funny because It's called Barrow, but the name was officially changed to Utqiagvik because, like, 70 people showed up to the town hall meeting to vote, and that's what happens.
Activists vote.
Conservatives don't.
Oh, it's 4,972.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
It's a cool place.
Cool place.
But they told us there was a polar bear sighting, so they didn't want us going out to a certain location.
Got to go there, and I got to go to the Whale Bones.
That was very fun.
It was very cool.
We had sushi when we went.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
There's no trees.
And everything is mud in the summer because nothing can grow in the Arctic Circle.
Things can, but trees don't.
And so they ship everything in by plane and by boat.
So you can get, you know, pizza and burgers.
unidentified
Wow.
brett dasovic
Cost of fortune.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
unidentified
Shipping it pretty far.
And then to get to your location, I imagine, is not necessarily that easy?
Or can you just fly straight in?
tim pool
You fly straight in.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
Yeah, they have daily flights now.
And we were talking to people there and they said before the daily flights, it was like once a year a big ship would come with all of the stuff you needed, like washing machines, dryers or whatever, and they'd all cheer as the boat came in.
That's cool.
Yeah.
Fairbanks was fun too.
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unidentified
Definitely.
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Check me out.
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tim pool
We will see you all at Rumble.com slash TimCastIRL for the Uncensored Call-In Show.
Thanks for hanging out.
phil labonte
Okay.
tim pool
When, as I mentioned before, when Windows auto-updates, it resets OBS.
And so, you know, gotta catch him, gotta catch him.
Hey, guess what, guys?
Israel is poised to launch operation on Iran, multiple sources tell CBS News.
So, war, I guess.
How you doing?
brett dasovic
Be a shirt you could make.
War, I guess.
tim pool
War were declared.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, there we go.
phil labonte
I don't see war maybe just a conflict.
It's a little war.
tim pool
Unless Trump wants a war.
phil labonte
I don't think Trump wants a war at all.
unidentified
No, he doesn't.
I don't think so.
phil labonte
I don't think an attack on Iran serves the U.S. interests beyond what they're saying, which would be, oh, they don't want him to have a nuclear weapon.
But I don't think that there's any other benefit that the U.S. gets, you know, having— That ain't happening either.
brett dasovic
He'd be even older by the time he started his third term.
tim pool
Well, that's the best part.
They're going to activate the Genesis device to de-age him.
brett dasovic
And all his videos will be made AI.
Like, they'll just AI him from the Oval Office and he'll look years younger.
tim pool
I got to be honest, if Trump did come out, We're going to DHB in 40 years.
I'd be like, he can be president forever.
If he's got one of those things, let's roll.
brett dasovic
But the key is he makes it private so that the next president can't have it.
So only he can have it.
tim pool
It only works on him.
brett dasovic
It only works on him.
tim pool
There's that conspiracy theory that the Illuminati found immortality, and they...
brett dasovic
See, I think that's what happened with Musk.
So he got the black eye.
The Illuminati gave him the...
No.
tim pool
He got into a fight with Scott Bessent.
phil labonte
Yep.
brett dasovic
Yeah.
So Elon Musk throws hands.
phil labonte
Physically?
unidentified
Well, he got a hand thrown on him.
tim pool
Yeah, apparently he shouldered the guy and Bessent punched him in the face or something.
brett dasovic
Sure, of course.
That's what I would say if I was a member of the Loom.
I would say I got into a fight.
tim pool
Bruising is because they tried giving Elon the Genesis serum, but it didn't work.
And so he's like, what's wrong with my face?
unidentified
And they're like, the Genesis serum, it's failing!
brett dasovic
So that's what happened to all the celebrities who just end up with the random black eyes.
tim pool
I mean, sometimes people get black eyes.
Didn't Bernie have a scar on his face at the DNC in 2016?
Had that cut on his face?
brett dasovic
I think they might just have bad reactions to adrenochrome and it just blood pools in the eye.
unidentified
Sometimes it looked totally ridiculous.
Did the whole face be black?
It's like, come on.
Really?
tim pool
Do you guys think that they actually have access to longevity technology?
I think they do.
brett dasovic
I mean, I remember hearing this video.
I mean, it was like Styx was saying, like, I don't care who the president is.
If I'm there on day one, I want them to get the top-of-the-line CIA-created drugs that the rest of the country doesn't have access to.
I want my president in tip-top.
tim pool
You sit down and the CIA hands you a baggie of these weird green crystals and you're like, is that meth?
Nope.
unidentified
It's moth.
phil labonte
Nope, that's all you're eating for the next six months and you'll be 30 years younger.
brett dasovic
I saw Limitless.
I want that.
I want the NZT.
tim pool
Yeah, but there's a plot hole in that movie.
He becomes super smart but then forgets to pay back his bookie?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
That's so dumb.
brett dasovic
Well, it's like the stories of the really smart guy who can do all the math in the world but forgets to balance his checkbook.
tim pool
No, that's bullshit.
And he couldn't smart his way out of the bookie wanting to kill him?
brett dasovic
You should, however, watch the TV show version of that movie.
It was really, really good.
unidentified
That show was good.
brett dasovic
It had no right to be as good as it was.
tim pool
That was definitely a hit in the gym.
brett dasovic
No, in the TV show it's a different character and then the Eddie Mora character makes like five appearances.
He's a senator.
tim pool
Is it actually Bradley Cooper?
brett dasovic
Yeah.
tim pool
Oh, that's cool.
brett dasovic
But he's in like five episodes and he plays a senator who's like helping this kid.
tim pool
Is he still taking it?
brett dasovic
No, yeah, he takes it and he's found a way to prevent it from the side effects.
He got rich because he's smart as hell and then invested a bunch of money to figure out how to get rid of all the side effects.
tim pool
What were the side effects?
brett dasovic
So it's basically like, yeah, you become a gay communist.
That's what it is.
tim pool
Oh, no!
phil labonte
It's not worth it!
brett dasovic
Basically, it's shown in the show as the worst come down ever from a bunch of uppers and downers together.
But, yeah.
tim pool
But in the movie it wasn't.
brett dasovic
Don't be a pussy.
phil labonte
Don't be a pussy.
Just shut up and do it.
tim pool
Well, the thing is, it'll make you the smartest man alive.
You'll be rich, but you'll also be gay.
phil labonte
Smartest man alive, rich, and gay.
Can you be all three things?
tim pool
I do believe there's a handful of people who may have taken that drug.
phil labonte
Scott Besson might be one of them.
tim pool
Is he gay?
phil labonte
He's gay.
tim pool
Is he rich?
unidentified
Is he gay for Rue?
phil labonte
He's a billionaire.
Yes, he is.
He is gay.
unidentified
Oh, really?
Wow.
tim pool
There's a lot of gay billionaires.
unidentified
Yeah, a lot of them.
brett dasovic
It's like ladies, it's like he can't have all three.
Rich, smart, straight.
phil labonte
That's right.
tim pool
He found a genie lamp and it's like, the genie's like, you get two wishes and a curse, but I'm not going to tell you which one.
unidentified
It'd be a surprise.
tim pool
It's like, so you're rich, you're attractive, you can have any woman you want, but you're gay.
Actually, that's kind of like needful things.
phil labonte
And you can't have any of the men you're attracted to.
You're gay and you can't have like...
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
Have you guys seen that?
The Stephen King story?
Where the devil is giving people items they want but it's cursed?
phil labonte
Oh.
tim pool
I feel like that was poorly executed.
phil labonte
That was Stephen King.
tim pool
You know what actually I find to be a bit contentious is that everyone likes the film It.
unidentified
Why is it contentious?
tim pool
Well, because of the 12-year-old rape scene.
brett dasovic
Well, I mean, it's a Stephen King story, so it's going to have weird shit in it that shouldn't be there.
tim pool
I wonder if Stephen King put the child rape stuff in the book, because he was like, I bet the editors don't even fucking read it.
brett dasovic
He did a lot of cocaine.
He snorted a lot of cocaine.
tim pool
People don't know this.
In the book, It, after they defeat Pennywise the Clown, This is fucking insane.
They're like, we've done it.
We've defeated the evil clown.
And then she goes, now you will all have sex with me.
I'm not kidding.
Literally, she goes, now you will all have sex with me.
And then he graphically details all of the boys gangbanging this 12-year-old girl.
And they're all like 10 and 12. And when later asked about it, he says, it's a metaphor for them becoming adults.
And they're like, no.
unidentified
No, no.
tim pool
A bunch of fucking weird kid gangbang stuff.
What the fuck?
And he did it again, too.
and there's a story called The Library Policeman and it literally is just like a graphic...
brett dasovic
People make sure to point that out anytime he goes on one of his Twitter hissy fits about Trump.
tim pool
Like, why did you write this?
Yeah.
unidentified
I'm not buying his excuse.
brett dasovic
He's like, you just don't get it, man.
tim pool
Yeah.
phil labonte
You're a creepy, weird guy.
You're gross.
tim pool
I don't know, man.
Anyway, I like that Needful Things movie story, but I kind of felt like it was poorly executed.
Like, it's a really cool concept that the devil is going to give you something that, you know, fucks with you, but the movie was kind of lame.
phil labonte
Isn't that kind of the case with a lot of Stephen King's movies?
tim pool
Yeah, I guess.
phil labonte
They get made to, like...
They're not always good.
tim pool
Wasn't Langoliers...
phil labonte
Yeah.
Yeah.
That was clever.
tim pool
they were at an airport that I thought was again like the story was good but the actual delivery Have you guys ever seen that one?
brett dasovic
I've seen it a long, long time ago.
It's one of those movies I got in the dollar bin and watched once and then never watched again.
tim pool
So the movie sucked.
Johnny Depp is a writer.
He's struggling.
And then some guy named Shooter, I think his name was whatever, he's like, you stole my story.
And then he claims that he plagiarized his story and got it published and got famous for it and ripped him off.
And he's like, what are you talking about?
I didn't steal your story.
You're crazy.
And then the guy kills his dog.
And then all this crazy shit happens.
And then finally his ex-wife shows up.
Johnny Depp goes insane, puts on the hat, and he's like, I'm a shooter, and then murders his wife, buries her in the yard, and then grows corn from her corpse.
And then the story is like, he was psychotic the whole time.
There's no shooter.
He was a sentimental breakdown.
In the short film, same thing happens, and then he goes crazy, tries to murder his wife, but her new husband, like, bashes him in the face with a shovel, killing him.
The police come, and they're like, he went nuts claiming he was Shooter.
He must have been crazy the whole time.
There was no Shooter, or whatever the guy's name.
And then tried to kill ex-wife, and I saved her, and the cops were like, wow.
And then the epilogue is, several months later, Shooter sent a letter to the family saying, thank you for dealing with the problem of the man who stole my story.
So, like, in the actual story, he went insane, but there really was a guy killing his dog and harassing him and, you know, all that shit.
Yeah, anyway, let's go to callers.
Let's see who we got on the line.
The Libs of Reddit.
Uh-oh, what is up?
unidentified
Hey, guys.
Libs of Reddit here from Instagram.
Good to see you, Anthony.
One of my favorite people over on Instagram.
Right on me.
I had a question for the panel.
Do you think that this evacuation in the Middle East of the diplomat families is just posturing ahead of Special Envoy Witkoff's talks with Iran scheduled for this Sunday?
Kind of a proverbial carrot and stick move?
phil labonte
No, I don't.
I don't even think there's going to be talks on Sunday.
tim pool
Yeah, I agree.
unidentified
You think they're going to get canceled?
phil labonte
Yes, I do.
tim pool
I don't know.
Trump is saying end the war, but now we have this report of those.
But I mean, if we know that, this could all be threats, you know what I mean?
phil labonte
Yeah.
Well, the way that Trump was with the media today is what kind of makes me think that there's substance to it.
unidentified
It might not happen.
Maybe 50-50?
Like, what are the odds of y 'all think that this will actually be a thing that happens?
phil labonte
An actual strike on Iran?
unidentified
Yes.
phil labonte
I mean, it's 50-50 seems pretty reasonable to me with what I currently know.
You're a 60-40 guy?
I mean, I don't think that it's guaranteed, and I don't, you know, but things like the...
Those kind of little things are what makes me think, yeah, maybe it could be.
unidentified
All of those things could be part of the ruse, too, though.
phil labonte
I mean, yes, if there is a ruse, they could be.
But I don't know.
I'm not sure that a ruse is very...
What would you hope that Iran would do because of this ruse?
What is it that you think the administration would be looking for Iran to do because of this ruse?
unidentified
I think the Pentagon's getting ready.
Pardon me, boss.
I think the Pentagon's getting ready if something happens and something may happen, but I'm not necessarily confident that it will.
And I don't think that Trump will want them to start it.
If it's going to be a war and we're going to get involved, I don't think the optics would look good for Israel starting something and then we follow behind them.
Yeah.
I think maybe he wants to get them to open up to nuclear inspections again and kind of going back that direction.
And this might be something that, you know, they're trying to use to get to that point.
phil labonte
All right.
unidentified
Cool.
phil labonte
Could be.
Got anything you want to shout out?
unidentified
Nope.
Just follow me on Libs of Reddit on Instagram.
I'm Sublime and Slime also.
Used to be the top mod of the Donald, but been around a couple times here.
Thanks, guys.
tim pool
Right on.
unidentified
Thanks for calling in.
phil labonte
I'm looking you up right now.
Libs of Reddit.
tim pool
All right.
Next up, we've got Indoctrinate.
What is up?
unidentified
Hello, thank you for having me on.
phil labonte
What is up?
unidentified
Thank you.
My question is for Uncle ABL.
Alrighty.
So, what do you have to say to Black folks watching these riots and comparing them to the LA riots?
First question.
Second question, is there anything you would want the black community to agree on regarding the Civil War?
Okay, now as far as comparing it to the LA riots, I think it's really crazy because the LA riots, there was a specific thing You're talking about LaTarsha, when she got killed in the Korean store.
For stealing.
Then you're talking about Rodney King.
And these things happened.
The community saw it.
And Rodney King, it was a big viral moment.
Probably one of the first viral moments to happen.
So that was the pretext.
Plus the condition of black people in California.
A lot of the police brutality that happened in California.
It was a lot of things that happened to make that whole thing go.
And it was impacting.
Black people.
Now, trying to compare that to what's happening with ICE is totally crazy, talking about people that came here illegally.
They did wrong.
They broke the law.
Nothing happened to them.
They came over here, broke the law, now they're being held accountable, and they went and say, oh, don't hold us accountable.
And then they say, hey, black people, you guys were this, that.
It's like, no, no, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
I'm here legally.
I was born here, and my grandma, my great-grandma, and everybody's born here.
You were not born here.
So, the comparison to me, it doesn't make any sense.
And your second question, what was that?
Yes.
The second question, is there anything you would want the black community to agree on regarding the Civil War?
Oh, the Civil War?
I mean, what we can agree on is that it ended slavery.
Now, whether we can say Abraham Lincoln did it because he wanted to or it was strategic or whatever, at the end of the day, slavery was over.
So I think...
I'm sorry.
I meant the impending civil war, not the one of the past.
Oh, oh, oh.
Impending, like the current civil.
Oh, I mean, listen, if there's a war that happens, I think we can all agree that this is not our war to fight because these are not even American citizens.
What are we talking about here?
If it was our fellow Americans and we had a common enemy from the outside that were trying to hurt us, okay, I understand.
Us being involved.
But this is not our fight to fight.
So I think all black folks could just get on the same page and agree.
Also, ask yourself this question if you want to be involved with this war as a black person.
If you go to Mexico, how are you going to get treated there?
They just started counseling black people on the census in Mexico in 2020.
Before that, they were just like, they don't even exist.
2.5 million of us, hey, it don't even exist.
So, I mean...
Would they assist you?
And they're not even citizens.
Thank you.
Excellent answer.
Alright, thank you.
Appreciate you.
phil labonte
You got anything you want to shout out?
unidentified
Yeah, you guys can follow me on X at N-D-K-T-R-N-8.
tim pool
Alright, thanks for calling in.
unidentified
Thanks, guys.
tim pool
Alright, next up we've got Andy Brown, 928.
phil labonte
What's up, Andy?
unidentified
Hey, howdy, people.
tim pool
Howdy.
unidentified
Hey, so question to the panel.
With the historic similarities aligning to a modern-day deja vu, with the anti-race Sorry, the deja vu with the anti-rice riots.
I can't get that.
I can't get that.
I'm done.
And the extreme violence of the past years.
What will be the next Rodney King moment?
Or what will be the next George Floyd?
Like, with the necessary death to ignite the insane left organized militias, what will be the next Duke Ferdinand moment?
phil labonte
So it's my sense that there isn't any organized left left, right?
There's not a reserve of crazy people that are not out there protesting.
So the idea that there's something that could happen that would activate a reserve of leftists that aren't already out there.
We'll see what this weekend turns into.
But I think that we will quickly achieve maximum level of people willing to get out and riot.
This weekend, unless there's some other catalyst, which you were referring to, and the only thing that I can think of that would be a catalyst to get normies out, and I'm not even sure about this, would be Ice actually murdering some poor migrant.
brett dasovic
That's what I mentioned earlier, right?
What they have to worry about is if there's any type of violence that happens and somebody ends up dying.
It's kind of what they were trying to do.
If you see the image of the child who got tear gas, And they were wrapped in the Mexican flag.
That's the type of imagery they want to try and inspire people to come out and protest.
phil labonte
But to your point, I think the reason why I don't feel like we're on that razor's edge is because of the reaction to that very image.
Like, there wasn't, like, massive outrage, and it didn't go totally viral, and it didn't activate Karen that doesn't pay attention or hasn't really been paying attention since the end of...
So even that picture of a kid that got chemicals in their face and stuff, the majority of the people that I saw talking about it were like, why the F did you bring kids?
Why the F did you do that?
What the fuck's wrong with you?
Why are you bringing your kid to a place where you know they're gonna be fucking cops with tear gas?
So I don't know.
I feel like there's...
That's what they like to do.
But I don't know what it is or if there is anything that will get the majority of Americans to that point.
And a large part of the reason why I feel like that is because in the past five years, there's been just a desensitization by the average people to those.
types of stimuli, right?
Like, ever since George Floyd and all the stuff that came after COVID, there's so many more people that are skeptical of not just narratives that you get from the government, but from the government.
In totality, people are just like, I don't believe this.
There's more people that are skeptical of the media.
There's more people that are skeptical of a lot of things.
And I feel like it would take significantly more evidence and something that is significantly more dramatic to actually get people to go out into the streets.
So that's just my take.
tim pool
The immigration thing is an 80-20 issue.
unidentified
I live in Oregon, so it's very much a battleground state here with all that.
Even this weekend, there's already large signs of even protests where I'm in the valley.
That's why the reason I use Tim's quote of, you know, history doesn't repeat itself, it rhymes.
Yeah, that's not my quote.
Oh, well, sorry, Churchill.
phil labonte
You've said it.
unidentified
Thank you.
phil labonte
So yeah, you have anything else you want to shout out or anything?
unidentified
You guys are awesome.
I watch your show every day, so just keep on doing what you're doing.
I just love the show.
Just keep trucking on, guys.
tim pool
Thanks, man.
unidentified
Thank you.
tim pool
Thank you very much.
Thanks for calling in.
phil labonte
Appreciate it.
tim pool
Alright, and last but not least, we've got One-Eyed Mutt.
Welcome to the show.
phil labonte
What's up, One-Eyed Mutt?
unidentified
Thank you, guys.
I appreciate you taking my call.
First-time caller from the People's Socialist Republic of California.
phil labonte
Welcome, comrade.
unidentified
My question is for everybody tonight.
And even though I love you, Phil, you are my Gen X representation.
Cheers.
With what Tim has been saying lately, it got me thinking because of the fact that apportionment of Population based off of criminal aliens means that Democrats get more seats in Congress.
But has anybody really considered what that means on a state level?
It got me thinking today.
So, I mean, I asked ChatGPT and even then looking at how those populations are shoved into cities.
So it puts them in more blue areas.
Do you guys think that's why the flashpoints in California, where they have the huge population of illegals, and do you think maybe they're just scared of what that means on every level?
I think that there's people who are getting paid.
That's kind of like underlying it.
In California, very expensive, difficult to live.
People are getting paid.
Plus, a bunch of illegal aliens.
I think they said like 35% of aliens I'm not quite sure if that's illegals or what, but that's still quite a bit.
So they'd be sympathetic toward the illegals.
There's a financial part.
Plus, a lot of people, Southern California, one concentrated area, they're going to go right there to try to target it.
And then in the left coast in general, that's why I call it the left coast, it's a bunch of the liberal policies that allow that kind of thing to go on.
Over in other parts of the country, it kind of gets squashed early.
Okay, I know for numbers, what I was able to pull up was about 27% is foreign-born, but it's 10-15% is kind of illegal.
tim pool
It's crazy.
unidentified
There we go.
I mean, 27%?
How many people?
We're talking about millions upon millions upon millions of people.
That's a lot.
phil labonte
Occupy 9 million people?
tim pool
10 of the feds take over California.
I'm not even kidding.
They're cheating.
I think Texas...
I mean, maybe I should talk to the AG in West Virginia and say, it's time to sue the state of California to the federal government for stealing congressional representation and electoral college votes.
Why has this not happened?
Everybody knows they do it.
Or at the very least, what needs to happen is a total census count on illegal immigrants and that much is stripped from their, if it's counted.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
Does that answer your question?
unidentified
Yeah, actually, I think you guys are spot on.
Thank you.
Appreciate it.
Thank you.
phil labonte
Where in California do you live?
unidentified
Actually, I live in Northern California, just to the west of Yosemite and kind of southeast from Sacramento.
phil labonte
Nice.
unidentified
Sort of isolated up in the mountains, and I love my mountains, and I love that my kids are here, and they just gave me a grandbaby, so I've got to stay closed.
Congratulations.
phil labonte
Congrats, man.
tim pool
All right.
unidentified
But thank you, guys.
I really appreciate it.
phil labonte
Wish you the best, man.
unidentified
Thank you.
tim pool
Well, thanks for calling in.
phil labonte
California's census was $39,529,000, according to in 2024.
Well, for the Department of Finance, apparently.
tim pool
Wow.
That was a quick night tonight.
However, I do think I'm getting sick.
Starting to feel it.
brett dasovic
Starting to feel under the weather.
tim pool
Yeah.
I'm getting worried.
I just got attacked by a bug.
Fly got me!
Did you catch that fly?
unidentified
Yes, I did.
phil labonte
Good catch.
tim pool
What?
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Is it dead?
unidentified
Wow.
phil labonte
Now it is.
brett dasovic
It is now.
tim pool
Brad just caught the fly in the air.
He went, grabbed it.
unidentified
Are you a baseball guy?
I mean, come on.
brett dasovic
I play baseball.
unidentified
Well, there it is.
tim pool
I was like, no way.
brett dasovic
I was a catcher.
unidentified
Oddly enough.
tim pool
No, legit, it was funny because it hit me in the face and then it flew off and Brad went like this.
I'm not kidding.
He literally went.
And then I was like, did you just grab it?
And he's like, yeah.
Anyway, I'm going to go to bed and hope that I'm not getting sick because I think I might be.
So we'll see.
But ABL, man.
It's been a blast.
Thanks for hanging out.
unidentified
Definitely, man.
Really enjoyed it.
tim pool
Yeah.
And thank you, everybody, for hanging out.
I know it was a little quick tonight, I guess, but sometimes it goes quick.
And I'm going to try and get some sleep and see if I feel better in the morning.
Thanks for hanging out.
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