May 29, 2025 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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| Ladies and gentlemen, it has begun. | ||
| Now, apparently the story actually is a bit old. | ||
| This is actually maybe two, maybe about a month and a half ago. | ||
| Kash Patel at the FBI released the crossfire hurricane documents to the GOP, but this is a large trove of documents. | ||
| Now, what is that? | ||
| Boy, this is a complicated story. | ||
| For those that are not familiar, this was the operation by the DOJ against Donald Trump. | ||
| What I would effectively call, with air quotes, a coup. | ||
| How do we describe what these operatives did, both from the Republican side and Democrat side together, to hamstring the Trump administration, to take away his ability to be president, to stifle anything he tried to do? | ||
| We all kind of looked at each other. | ||
| It's like, it's not really a coup. | ||
| They didn't take over, but they kind of did. | ||
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So we were like, coup in quotes? | |
| Maybe some people might want to call it a hard coup. | ||
| But in 2016, Donald Trump was accused of being a Russian spy. | ||
| Fake information was disseminated. | ||
| He was then investigated for years because Democrats could not accept Hillary Clinton lost. | ||
| Well, now we have new information coming out from declassified documents proving that in 2019, the FBI had evidence that one of the operatives involved in the hoax was lying to Congress, the DOJ, and the FBI. | ||
| And they covered it up. | ||
| There was no prosecution. | ||
| Just sort of went away. | ||
| But hold on. | ||
| How did this not get exposed? | ||
| That one of the individuals involved in bringing together all of this fake news, this fake information, which is used to destroy or to hinder, I should say, Trump's first term. | ||
| How is this person not charged for what appears to be multiple felonies? | ||
| And this now coming from Chuck Grassley's office. | ||
| It was only after Kash Patel got in that he released these documents, and in an interview with Brett Baer on Fox News, he says he found documents he didn't even know existed, and they were in places they thought he'd never look. | ||
| It looks like it's starting, and I hope that's the case, that we're going to see the FBI and the DOJ go after the corruption, not just from Democrats, but this is also Republicans, covering up. | ||
| What these operatives were doing to make sure Donald Trump would not be able to do his job as president. | ||
| Now, some might call that seditious conspiracy. | ||
| Perhaps a bit long-winded, but maybe that's the best way to describe it. | ||
| The challenge we have for you today with this story, especially as we're going through the headlines, is there is so much information to break down. | ||
| Going back almost 10 years to understand how operatives, foreign intelligence assets, individualists. | ||
| Individuals on both parties were colluding to make sure Donald Trump could not have a first term. | ||
| This is a tough story, but we're going to get through it. | ||
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| Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Tony Kennett. | ||
| Who are you? | ||
| What do you do? | ||
| I'm Tony Kennett, national correspondent over at The Daily Signal. | ||
| Run a show called The Tony Kennett Cast, broadcast, podcast, radio, you know, media. | ||
| And a guy from Indiana that makes fun of the libs and exposes all kind of nonsense every day of the week. | ||
| It's good fun. | ||
| Right on. | ||
| Well, thanks for hanging out. | ||
| Should be fun. | ||
| Ian's here. | ||
| Hi, Tim. | ||
| Thanks for having me. | ||
| I brought my guitar. | ||
| I was jamming so hard before we went live. | ||
| Can we just calm down for a minute? | ||
| It was intense. | ||
| Hi, everybody. | ||
| I'm happy to be back. | ||
| Ian Crossland in the house. | ||
| I was down in Miami for a few weeks, spending time with Luke Rutkowski. | ||
| We did a bunch of shows. | ||
| That was terrible. | ||
| Crazy alien stuff. | ||
| There's so much like bizarre, I mean, AI, the way AI's used. | ||
| No. | ||
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Bro. | |
| Yeah, let's go into it later. | ||
| I was talking to Ashton Forbes earlier, and there's a lot of people who don't like that guy. | ||
| The bugosphere, maybe we should talk about it. | ||
| In Colombia, there was a sphere, they have video of it floating in the sky. | ||
| They knock it down, and when they start, they get researchers to look at it. | ||
| It's almost solid metal with weird internal structures that it looks like solid metal, but it was floating. | ||
| Maybe a hoax, maybe not, who knows? | ||
| If it is, that's the first time that it's not been over the southwestern United States. | ||
| That's news in and of itself. | ||
| Incredible. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| Bugosphere. | ||
| I like that word. | ||
| What's up, everybody? | ||
| My name is Phil Labonte. | ||
| I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band. | ||
| All that remains, I'm an anti-communist and counter-revolutionary. | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| Here's the story from the New York Post. | ||
| Holy crap, it's starting, my friends. | ||
| Nellie Orr, Justice Department official's wife, perjured herself with demonstrably false Trump-Russia testimony bombshell FBI records. | ||
| I just want to say right off the bat, the New York Post is leading with this as a demonstrably true statement. | ||
| OK, there's I mean, this is a headline where they're opening themselves up to liability for for pointing this out. | ||
| But they're saying, hey, don't look at me. | ||
| FBI records are pointing this out. | ||
| This is in the news now as a fact. | ||
| OK, the person who compiled smears and lies against Donald Trump, which which which basically ramped up the Russia hoax, which was used to stop Donald Trump, even a component is impeachment. | ||
| This person was lying. | ||
| According to these documents, the wife of former DOJ official gave demonstrably false testimony to Congress about her involvement in drafting and disseminating since debunked dossiers about Trump's purported collusion with Russia in 2016, according to a bombshell trove of internal FBI records released by Senator Grassley. | ||
| Nellie Orr worked with the research firm Fusion GPS when it was hired. | ||
| In the lead to the 2016 election to dig up dirt on the Trump campaign's alleged links to Russian organized crime, but later told the House panel she did not know about the DOJ's panel investigation into the matter. | ||
| Now, I want to jump straight to Chuck Grassley, grassley.senate.gov. | ||
| Newly declassified FBI documents proves Fusion GPS contractor Nellie Orr lied to Congress about contributions to Crossfire Hurricane. | ||
| Quote, by lying to Congress, Nellie Orr showed contempt for congressional oversight in the American people. | ||
| What's more, the FBI and DOJ's failure to hold Orr accountable for appearing to commit multiple felonies and its obstructive conduct against agents that sought additional information reveals the agency's deeply disturbing political bias. | ||
| Orr never suffered consequences for advancing the phony Trump-Russia narrative and attempting to cover up her involvement in the hoax. | ||
| Yet time and again, the American justice system has been weaponized against President Trump and his associates with reckless abandon. | ||
| The DOJ's inaction on Nellie Orr's criminal referral, despite the obviously incriminating evidence provided in the FBI's own analysis, undermines public trust in the rule. | ||
| I applaud Director Patel, Attorney General Bondi, and Deputy Attorney General Blanche for cooperating with my request to declassify this information, which is in the public's interest. | ||
| And chart a new course for transparency and accountability at the FBI and DOJ. | ||
| Here's a challenge for the American people right now. | ||
| We are talking about 10 years ago when this is all kicking off. | ||
| Between 9 and 10 years ago, depending on how reductive you want to get. | ||
| There are many young people we've had on this show who were not politically active nor paying attention when this was going down. | ||
| And they only know Trump for who he is today, not what was done to conspire against him. | ||
| I would say soft coup. | ||
| They didn't take over the government necessarily. | ||
| They didn't go in with guns and remove Trump from office, but they did try to impeach him. | ||
| They used this as evidence of his illicit activities, claiming that the Ukraine impeachment was motivated by his ties to Russia. | ||
| They perpetuated this for years. | ||
| And their goal, I would argue, is easily defined as sedition. | ||
| And who is they? | ||
| Democrats, Republicans, and members of our own intelligence agencies. | ||
| I mean, establishment figures all around. | ||
| Please go ahead. | ||
| No, it's just really ironic that right now you have an entire class of individuals, those on the media and the Democratic left, who are losing their minds over these individuals being fired in the bureaucratic administration. | ||
| Who did exactly what Trump said that they had did. | ||
| That they spent his entire first administration blocking every action that he did. | ||
| Hamstringing every single thing that his administration brought forward. | ||
| And for what? | ||
| Just to make up some kind of phony story about Russian dancers in urine to suggest that Trump was somehow in with the Russian mob. | ||
| Because they didn't like that Trump might come in and wreck the gravy train. | ||
| It was all true the entire time. | ||
| I think that's worth pointing to. | ||
| I think the average person, when they hear about the Russia story, there's so many people that have talked about Trump's involvement with Russia. | ||
| They lose sight of the fact that it was actually, the accusation was that Trump was involved with the Russian mafia. | ||
| Not that Trump was actually working for Russia, right, for the government of Russia. | ||
| And that's one of the things that... | ||
| Transformed into, in the most ridiculous sense, people were saying that he was a KGB agent back in the 80s. | ||
| Yeah, his code name. | ||
| Yeah, and he had a code name and stuff, which is obviously completely ridiculous. | ||
| But it points to how these stories got blown completely out of proportion that went from literally nothing, you know, fabricated by an oppo research. | ||
| And turned into, he's a Russian agent. | ||
| And it's actually stuck on the left. | ||
| The left genuinely believes that he is or has some kind of connection to the Russian government. | ||
| And what is it? | ||
| In the 90s, one of his companies did a deal with some Russian, you know, landowner to make a hotel somewhere. | ||
| It turned out that guy's brother was in the Russian mob. | ||
| Is that like the connection that they're talking about? | ||
| No, this is the Crossfire Hurricane and this stuff, this the steel dossier that was totally fabricated. | ||
| They suggested that like somehow the Russian mafia had gotten some blackmail on Trump with some secret tapes and that there was this kind of. | ||
| Yeah, that kind of nonsense. | ||
| But the craziness of that is not the point. | ||
| The point is that they used this to completely freeze and hamstring every single law enforcement agency in this country. | ||
| We don't even know what reports or referrals made it to whom. | ||
| That shouldn't be happening. | ||
| This isn't 1925 where you hand that kind of folder and run this down to the chief. | ||
| No, you send the referral directly. | ||
| Who knew... | ||
| I mean, that's on the table. | ||
| Or Bill Barr saw it and was like, let's just pretend that doesn't exist. | ||
| I wouldn't be surprised if Bill Barr was like, I wonder if, if I'm going to be generous, his attitude was, wow, this is really bad, but let's de-escalate things and just put a stop to it now. | ||
| Like, let's not get too hasty kind of a thing? | ||
| You know, these people should go to jail because what they did is very criminal. | ||
| However, that could lead to escalation politically and destabilization. | ||
| So let's just stop where we are. | ||
| He seemed like the kind of guy who's going to be like, now, now, there, guys, like most Republicans. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The traditional Republicans being like, slow down there, Democrats. | ||
| Bill Barr sees and he goes, oof. | ||
| You know, that's a lot of work to deal with. | ||
| And it's going to create a historical political firestorm. | ||
| So let's just, everybody, we'll call it a bad hair day. | ||
| Go about our business. | ||
| I think that's plausible. | ||
| Bill Barr was like, I don't want to do this because it's hard. | ||
| It's big. | ||
| And then it starts implicating anybody that's perjured themselves, which is like James Clapper, saying that he didn't— Christopher Wray, especially. | ||
| I mean, we already have Christopher Wray on the record for lying over how and when he met with Joe Biden. | ||
| And take a look at how the Supreme Court handles these epic cases. | ||
| And I mean epic as in, like, grandiose historical moments. | ||
| Texas v. | ||
| Pennsylvania in the 2020 election. | ||
| What does the Supreme Court say? | ||
| But I don't wanna. | ||
| So they say, no. | ||
| It is the obligation of the Supreme Court to handle lawsuits at the state level in what's called original jurisdiction. | ||
| Now, that's my opinion. | ||
| I'm not a legal scholar. | ||
| I'm sure there'll be legal scholars saying, Tim Pool's wrong. | ||
| The Supreme Court can take what they want. | ||
| It's going to be a great Newsweek article. | ||
| Indeed. | ||
| My point is, who do the states go to for adjudication in affairs if the Supreme Court says no? | ||
| And this is my point, not to rehash all these old stories, but in the 2020 election case... | ||
| The Supreme Court said, we are not going to hear it. | ||
| It is typical of the establishment conservative regime to say, stop, stop, we don't want to have to do this. | ||
| Whereas Democrats are like, turn on the steamroller and paddle to the metal. | ||
| And they even found, again, they would take federal cases in the case of Letitia James with Trump. | ||
| They would take federal statutes, multiply them by 34, and then charge them at the state level with Trump. | ||
| But you have Republican governors who, again, take what you described as kind of the bill bar. | ||
| Well, let's not get too hasty. | ||
| Let's just simmer down. | ||
| We'll just move forward. | ||
| You even saw this with Representative McIvor, right? | ||
| The Trump DOJ suggested from that attorney from Newark that they were going to move forward. | ||
| If she wanted to move forward, maybe just apologize. | ||
| They refused to. | ||
| So now Trump's administration... | ||
| I want to make sure people understand the psychosis that this country has been going through for some time. | ||
| It's hard to think about it, but the COVID lockdowns were five years ago. | ||
| Five years ago, this nation went insane. | ||
| Now, hold on. | ||
| Five years before that, this country went insane too. | ||
| 2015. | ||
| This is when... | ||
| This video is from 2018. | ||
| Listen to this. | ||
| Let me turn the volume up and... | ||
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So that's part of what I'm doing with aspects of this piece, like this trip to Moscow. | |
| What would it mean if it was... | ||
| play the full thing. | ||
| But it says in the Chiron... | ||
| Unlikely but possible that Trump has been a Russian intel asset since 1987. | ||
| You never know. | ||
| In a new cover story for New York Magazine, writer Jonathan Chait argues, we have not allowed ourselves to consider the full range of possibilities. | ||
| Chait lays out what could be considered the worst case scenario for Trump-Russia collusion, that Donald Trump has been a Russian intelligence asset since 1987. | ||
| That would mean Donald Trump is a Soviet agent, not a Russian asset. | ||
| That's how insane this was back then. | ||
| This was the pretext by which they – Trump had – what was it? | ||
| Michael Flynn prosecuted or – persecuted is probably a better word – communicating with Russians, lying to the FBI, they said. | ||
| They were going after anybody who was going to work with Trump. | ||
| And they used this as pretext that Trump was an asset of Russia. | ||
| And that all of this communication was illegal, illicit, or otherwise when it wasn't. | ||
| It was like 2015. | ||
| I was watching a lot of Rachel Maddow living in L.A., still doing that post-liberal lifestyle clinging on. | ||
| And I just remember all of a sudden they started talking about Russia. | ||
| And I'm like, what the fuck? | ||
| We haven't talked about Russia in 20 years. | ||
| Like, Russia and the U.S. are allies now. | ||
| We're done with it. | ||
| And 2015, the propaganda started talking about Russia, Russia, Russia. | ||
| And then it was not only the perfect storm because they're creeping up on Russia with NATO up in Ukraine. | ||
| They want to control it. | ||
| They want Russia to make the first move so they can have this. | ||
| Global war and take it over. | ||
| Not only that, now they get to pin it on the president. | ||
| The guy who's running for president is like, ooh, we can use this to our advantage. | ||
| Not only are we propagandizing people to go to war with Russia, we can scare people into fearing Trump. | ||
| You're talking about 2015. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Not three years before that was when... | ||
| Three years before that. | ||
| It was so abrupt when they started the Russian crap. | ||
| It was so weird and manufactured. | ||
| Because of Ukraine, because of Crimea. | ||
| This has been in the works for a long time. | ||
| And you know what's fascinating is how predictable a lot of it is. | ||
| Because if you go back to 2010s, 2012 with the Arab Spring, something I harp on about quite a bit is the Qatar-Turkey pipeline. | ||
| And that's because it's not the beginning, but if you go back to this point, obviously everything can be reduced back to some thousand years ago something happened. | ||
| But the Qatar-Turkey pipeline wasn't implemented because Syria blocked us. | ||
| They said they're not going to allow us to build this pipeline. | ||
| They're allies with Russia. | ||
| The U.S. gets mad at Russia. | ||
| Russia says you're not going to be able to do this. | ||
| Then starts working with Syria and Iran to build the same pipeline, tapping a natural gas field to once again to strengthen the Gazprom gas control that they have in Europe. | ||
| The U.S. gets pissed. | ||
| And then they say, OK, Burisma. | ||
| Energy company in Ukraine, we're going to try and control the flow of energy through Ukraine as another means to get the prices of energy down in Europe because Russia's charging too much. | ||
| What happens? | ||
| Crimea. | ||
| U.S. involvement in Ukraine, Russia and the U.S. or the West are fighting over whether Ukraine's going to join the West or join the trade federation. | ||
| And then, of course, we enter the cusp of war and the U.S. goes, OK, Russia's our enemy now. | ||
| And that's the direction we want. | ||
| Just a little ironic history point here that I think people really fail to point out. | ||
| You talk about the Arab Spring, you talk about the pipeline. | ||
| This all comes from the United States rebuilding the world after World War II with the Marshall Plan, and the Soviet plan was to create a major energy economy to undermine the United States. | ||
| So in essence, what this has all turned out to be is a scheme of the Soviets to undermine the U.S. by creating an alternate energy sphere that cuts off the United States from deciding what the globe does, because that's what we earned in World War II. | ||
| Now we have this situation where the Soviets do kind of get the last laugh, creating this endless trail of corruption over an energy market and fundamentalist terrorism. | ||
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| Because we have a super chat where Jonathan Westcott says it's not a soft coup as much as it's a blatant attempted coup. | ||
| Just because it wasn't successful doesn't mean it isn't an attempted coup. | ||
| This is the issue. | ||
| When we were discussing this before the show, the issue is that it was successful. | ||
| Donald Trump wasn't re-elected. | ||
| He was unable to effectively run the executive branch the way he wanted to. | ||
| His national security advisor is falsely accused of crime. | ||
| Papadopoulos Carter Page, falsely accused of crimes. | ||
| They even arrested the lawyer and charged him over fabricating evidence against Carter Page. | ||
| They knew that—I don't want to get into the weeds on this. | ||
| There's so much to break down. | ||
| But they fabricated evidence by altering an email so that Carter Page looked like he was guilty of a crime when he was actually intentionally giving—he was working with the CIA and providing them information. | ||
| Right. | ||
| This is what they consistently had done to make sure that anytime Trump would turn around, he'd be weighed down and unable to actually implement the foreign policy he wanted to. | ||
| And in the one time they claimed he was presidential. | ||
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I tend to look at the convention when he bombed Syria. | |
| When he bombed Syria. | ||
| Let's jump to this next segment real quick. | ||
| This is Kash Patel. | ||
| He appeared on Fox News with Brett Baier. | ||
| Listen to this. | ||
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You were on with Maria a few weeks ago, and you said this. | |
| What we can do now is continue to put out the documents and the information that these people withheld from the American public. | ||
| You're about to see a wave of transparency. | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| Just give us about a week or two. | ||
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All right, we're almost at two weeks. | |
| So this is about Crossfire Hurricane. | ||
| You just talked about that, all that you've been learning. | ||
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Can you give us a little of that wave of transparency? | |
| Absolutely. | ||
| So just quickly on Crossfire Hurricane, that is a continuing production. | ||
| Pause real quick for those that are not familiar, because it's a new segment. | ||
| Crossfire Hurricane was the investigation into Donald Trump for the Russia collusion narrative. | ||
| It was a hoax. | ||
| It hamstrung the Trump administration, and I would argue it was a seditious conspiracy based on the available evidence we have now. | ||
| You're forgetting one small part there. | ||
| There's just so much here. | ||
| How are you supposed to list all of this? | ||
| They broke the law multiple times to carry out this investigation. | ||
| It wasn't even carried out according to the Patriot Act. | ||
| How crazy do you have to be to create a kind of investigation that violates the bloody Patriot Act of all things? | ||
| So now here's what Cash has to say about it. | ||
| We have found material, and I'm the Crossfire Hurricane guy, that I didn't even know existed in FBI holdings. | ||
| So there's been held someplace else? | ||
| That's been stashed away in locations that people thought we wouldn't find it because we wouldn't know to look for it there. | ||
| And as promised with my congressional partners, I'm working with Congress on constitutional oversight because that's what the American people deserve. | ||
| And those documentations have been flowing to Congress nonstop on a rolling basis since that interview. | ||
| So we've gotten some information so far. | ||
| That is, in the previous segment we were discussing, that's one of the operatives who had colluded on the Russia hoax, according to an FBI analysis, lied to Congress. | ||
| And this is Chuck Grassley saying, actually, let me actually grab, actually, I don't know if I have it pulled up anymore. | ||
| A week from today? | ||
| Not that one, this one. | ||
| actually said, newly declassified FBI documents proves Fusion GPS contractor Nellie or lied to Congress about contributions to Crossfire Hurricane. | ||
| In 2019, they did not prosecute this person. | ||
| I believe it's fair to say that the dam has broken. | ||
| I'm hoping that this continues and that Cash is correct. | ||
| Many people have been asking, why aren't Dan Bongino and Cash Patel going after the public corruption? | ||
| Who cares about cocaine in the White House? | ||
| Who cares about the guy in... | ||
| We want action against the corrupt Democrats who are trying to obstruct a duly elected president from doing his job. | ||
| We're getting all of it. | ||
| So right now, it's light. | ||
| Steve Bannon, I believe it was Bannon who said, mid-summer, we'll see some arrests. | ||
| Well, this is massive, because this is now in the public sphere, and Kash Patel has released documents. | ||
| They've been declassified, and the GOP has released them to the public. | ||
| It now appears the ball has begun rolling. | ||
| I hope it continues, and I hope that snowball gets very big coming down that hill. | ||
| I mean, there's a lot of people that actually should be arrested if you go back and think about how many people had been involved in this, how many people had been involved in other accused crimes. | ||
| There's the pipe bomb on January 6th that they have to investigate. | ||
| There's a lot of things, and we've talked about this a bit, and I really do think that they're trying to make sure that when they do make arrests, they've got as much evidence and everything. | ||
| I think this actually goes back to what Tim was saying a little bit earlier about the goal to move this forward so the American people get justice, but that it doesn't create a kind of chaos by just kind of going in guns a-blazin' with just any piece of evidence so that you end up in some kind of an Al Capone trial scene where he's basically just about to get off because you don't have I want them | ||
| to be gone. | ||
| I want them to be out of American society. | ||
| Traitors be damned and hanged, quote, the founding fathers. | ||
| We should have a legal standard that delivers justice for people based on an actual smoking gun. | ||
| There should be people prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law with the intent. | ||
| people from doing this in the future. | ||
| This should be a deterrent as well as justice. | ||
| Apparently they're leaving their names all over documents. | ||
| Sorry, just to point that out, my God, the paper trail is very present. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I refer to Cash and Dan Bongino as the secret police, the head of our secret police, kind of tongue-in-cheek. | ||
| Like, we don't really have a secret police. | ||
| They're not very secretive. | ||
| Not these guys, because he's giving the documents to Congress. | ||
| Secret police are supposed to have cooler outfits also, by the way. | ||
| And, like, sure, the FBI's gonna do undercover work that you don't know they're doing. | ||
| That's why you don't see a lot of what they're doing. | ||
| You're like, where's Cash and Dan? | ||
| Well, they're doing secret stuff. | ||
| And that van outside, but anyway. | ||
| Their willingness to send files to Congress to let the people decide what to do with it, it just completely turns that. | ||
| That tongue-in-cheek bullshit on its head. | ||
| These guys are legit. | ||
| Well, hang on a second there. | ||
| You said that they're sending this to Congress. | ||
| This isn't the first time this was referred. | ||
| According to these documents from Grassley's office, there were prior referrals that were sent out of his office. | ||
| Sean Davis over from The Federalist brought this up this evening. | ||
| There were referrals made. | ||
| We have no idea where those referrals went. | ||
| They could have gone to Barr. | ||
| He could have thrown them out. | ||
| They could have been sent to members of Congress. | ||
| I want to know if they were sent to members of Congress. | ||
| Are they sitting on committees right now? | ||
| People need to understand something. | ||
| Be it Dan Bongino, Cash Patel, be it Bill Barr, the likelihood that they've come across something simply because it exists in the FBI is slim. | ||
| So, for instance, we've got, I think, 40 people who work at Tim Kass in some capacity, and I'll walk in and there's a car I've never seen before. | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| I'll walk in the kitchen and there'll be like, food on the counter. | ||
| I have no idea where it came from. | ||
| And no one tells me. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| I don't think twice. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| The point I'm making is, the head of the FBI, This means it's possible that when the referral was made, it was intercepted by deep state bureaucrats so that Bill Barr never got it. | ||
| And I'm not trying to absolve Bill Barr of any responsibility. | ||
| Considering the gravity of these analyses and this investigation, nothing else mattered more. | ||
| I believe it's more likely he did know this was going on. | ||
| And just said, we're not going to do this. | ||
| For the 800th time, you are making a brilliant case for why these career bureaucrats, who were not elected, who are nameless, who are never accountable, we held an internal investigation, Chris Ray said. | ||
| We did nothing wrong, Chris Ray said. | ||
| Well, I mean, you're right about the bureaucrats, but I mean, it could just as likely be, you know, someone that is... | ||
| That's what was most likely to have happened when it comes to the Dobbs decision, right? | ||
| The Supreme Court case that leaked about abortion. | ||
| It was most likely that it was a clerk. | ||
| There are so many politically motivated people in the bureaucracy, people that truly believe that Donald Trump is going to ruin the world when honestly what they're probably trying to do is protect their own jobs or protect their future jobs. | ||
| The idea that it had to be some kind of well-connected bureaucrat, I think that it could have been almost any kind of operative in the government. | ||
| What would it look like, the referral itself? | ||
| How would that happen, point by point? | ||
| Who makes it? | ||
| And then where does it go? | ||
| So, according to Grassley's documents here, and Tim, if you could scroll down just a smidge in there, I want to make sure I get this right here. | ||
| So, Nellie Orr does all of this stuff. | ||
| All right, so let's pick a low-level crime here. | ||
| She violates, apparently, tells Congress that she didn't use a ham radio incorrectly. | ||
| The FCC is super serious about ham radio stuff. | ||
| She apparently lied about this. | ||
| If the FBI suspects, hey, you were lying about this, we have evidence, enough evidence, of which with Fusion GPS there was all of the evidence that this was false and garbage and there was actual collusion between bureaucratic offices and congressmen going on against the present administration, then you would make a referral. | ||
| This referral would be made to the FBI. | ||
| It can be made to another part, the deputy assistant. | ||
| Attorney General, perhaps. | ||
| There are a couple of different places the referrals can go. | ||
| I think right now what Cash Patel is alluding to in an interview with Brett Baer, they found the referral in a place there shouldn't have been referrals. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| So now they're saying, okay, how many referrals... | ||
| Any of you guys who have kids... | ||
| Yeah, you ever find a kid who hides something? | ||
| Your first thought isn't, wow, I'm so glad I have this back. | ||
| It's, what else has my kid been taking and hiding around the house? | ||
| Why wouldn't they just destroy the referral, though, instead of put it somewhere? | ||
| Because destroying things often leaves a bigger trail than just hiding it somewhere. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| Yeah, great point. | ||
| Anybody who has a ferret knows that if you catch the ferret stealing something, you're going to find its stash. | ||
| And there's a bunch of other stuff stashed there. | ||
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| You got a kid example and a ferret example here. | ||
| Did you know that ferret is Latin for little thief? | ||
| No way, really? | ||
| Did you know pundit is Sanskrit for teacher? | ||
| There you go. | ||
| Yeah, pundit. | ||
| Sorry, that's all I got. | ||
| That's the only other response I had for that. | ||
| So in all seriousness, they likely were putting these referrals in places that they thought people wouldn't find. | ||
| But if they did, they'd say – It's just in that place that's obscure. | ||
| And this is why Comey's statement today, he starts to hyperventilate a little bit at the end of this segment with Wolf Blitzer. | ||
| They're talking about the GOP administration, again, Kash Patel, Pam Bondi, opening up some of these investigations, the January 6th pipe bomb, the cocaine, on and on. | ||
| And he makes a very weird statement about whether or not the FBI ever closes investigations, specifically about January 6th. | ||
| We have this story from the Daily Mail. | ||
| Comey slams investigation. | ||
| Ex-FBI chief James Comey unnerved as Trump reopens investigation into cocaine at the White House. | ||
| Now, the first thing I want to say is, bravo, Daily Mail. | ||
| There should be an award for hilariously misleading headlines because the way they've phrased the title, it's as if to imply that it's Comey's cocaine. | ||
| Unnerved as Trump reopens investigation into cocaine. | ||
| He's like sniffing through the whole interview. | ||
| He's like, uh-oh. | ||
| Trump reopened a bunch of investigations. | ||
| Now we have this clip from CNN. | ||
| Let me play it for you. | ||
| Something supported by a lot of conservatives out there. | ||
| What do you make of this? | ||
| It's a little confusing to me, honestly. | ||
| I'm sure it's a huge adjustment to go from being a podcaster to being the deputy director of the FBI. | ||
| But I don't understand this tweet. | ||
| First of all, I assume that the investigation of the pipe bomb that was found on January 6th was never closed. | ||
| The FBI never closes such a thing. | ||
| So I guess it means they're going to focus on it more. | ||
| And as to the other things, I thought the Supreme Court marshal had investigated the leak of the opinion, the draft opinion. | ||
| I don't know what the FBI's role is there. | ||
| Cocaine at the White House, I thought the Secret Service investigated that, so I don't follow it and understand it. | ||
| I also don't understand who the audience is for this tweet. | ||
| The FBI often... | ||
| This seems much more narrowly targeted, maybe to a former podcast audience. | ||
| That's potentially what's going on. | ||
| I want to get your also reaction to an exchange the new FBI Director Cash Patel had with Democratic Senator Patty Murray during a recent congressional hearing. | ||
| Listen to this. | ||
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Director Patel, where is the FY2026 budget request for the FBI? | |
| It's being worked on, ma 'am. | ||
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Have you reviewed it? | |
| I really don't care about a budget request, though. | ||
| In the tweet from Nick's order, he says, James Comey slams Dan Bongino and Cash Patel for reopening and increasing investigations into the Biden White House. | ||
| Cocaine, J6 pipe bomber, and Supreme Court Dobbs leak. | ||
| Comey is in total self-preservation mode. | ||
| Spill everything, Cash and Bongino. | ||
| The J6 pipe bomb was under the Trump administration. | ||
| That was just at the end of Trump's first term. | ||
| Now, the question is – there's another issue here that I think is interesting, and that's Patriot Front. | ||
| So Joe Rogan had said something – MSNBC went off on Joe because Joe had said something about after cash gets in, Patriot Front disbands. | ||
| But Patriot Front didn't disband as far as I know this still exists. | ||
| MSNBC made that point. | ||
| But many people still look at groups like that and say, yeah, those are feds. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Well, they show up very organized, often – It appears like the law enforcement is disregarding their presence and allowing them to do things they wouldn't let any other group do. | ||
| The question here is, is James Comey actually unnerved by the reopening of these investigations? | ||
| It seemed rather weak, to be completely honest. | ||
| But were there FBI agents, maybe Comey or someone else, involved in a lot of these scenarios? | ||
| I don't know the cocaine belongs to. | ||
| I want to mention something. | ||
| The White House complex is massive. | ||
| People think White House and they assume it's this singular building. | ||
| No, it's a massive complex. | ||
| So where did they find the cocaine? | ||
| Was it in the Oval Office? | ||
| Because then we got an issue. | ||
| But there's so many different areas. | ||
| There's a bowling alley in the White House. | ||
| The pipe bomber is interesting because this one reeks of some kind of operation of some sort. | ||
| The cocaine one I'll tap on there, he said a Secret Service was supposed to take care of that. | ||
| Well, if they didn't, then does the FBI go, hey, how come the Secret Service isn't doing their job? | ||
| Maybe that's why the FBI is involved with that. | ||
| Now, the pipe bomb thing, since day one, what the hell? | ||
| Because that thing escalated the danger of the day and made it look like justified to go after people that were just standing around as if they had something to do with this pipe bomb, and then they just, the trail had gone cold. | ||
| And it was the pretext to evacuate members of Congress before. | ||
| The J6 riots. | ||
| So let's just try this. | ||
| On January 6th, Capitol Police, I believe it was Capitol Police, went door to door in congressional offices to evacuate members of Congress hours before anyone breached the Capitol building. | ||
| How fortunate for these members of Congress that there was a pretext that got them out of the building. | ||
| Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez used that pretext to create a fake story. | ||
| She claimed that the cops went to her room and banged on the door. | ||
| She went and hid in the bathroom, and she heard someone come in and go, where is she? | ||
| Where is she? | ||
| And she said, I thought they found me. | ||
| The J-6ers found me. | ||
| She thought she was going to die. | ||
| Is this the same person who hit Jussie Smollett with a Subway sandwich? | ||
| It was a cop evacuating her because of the pipe bombs. | ||
| However, the story makes no sense because this happened, I believe, a full hour before anyone breached the Capitol building. | ||
| So, when this story broke, I actually ended up arguing with Ben Shapiro about it. | ||
| Because everyone was saying, no, no, they were evacuating, the timeline adds up, and then I pulled her Instagram video and lined it up and said, this story she was telling about getting lunch happened, here's the time frame she gives, here's the video from in front of the Capitol of the first breach of the building. | ||
| She had no way of knowing they were going to breach the building unless she had foreknowledge that the building was going to be breached. | ||
| For those that believe January 6th was coordinated intentionally, it is extremely convenient for anyone who's trying to – who knows that there's going to be a riot inside the Capitol, that they had a pretext to evacuate Congress before that happened. | ||
| Yeah, and even if it was like Capitol Police getting ready to like prepare the building for the assault so they're in there getting all the Congress people out, that could have been – A full hour before – They evacuated members of Congress. | ||
| I've heard that there's FBI on the scene there. | ||
| You guys have the data? | ||
| This is what I want. | ||
| When they're doing this J6 pipe bomber thing, are we going to get documents related to the informants that we know were on the ground? | ||
| So this is where things get really, really interesting, and I think this even ties back into why Comey and Ray and so many others are starting to get a little sweaty on camera. | ||
| Whenever you start to look in these forlorn places where documents are just left to rot, they're not really closed, they're just left open, maybe you look around in some field offices, you start to find references to things that really shouldn't be there. | ||
| you do start to see whether or not individuals were listed as an FBI informant on some other earlier operation as opposed to just January 6th. | ||
| And all of a sudden, those testimonies before Congress look a little bit sketchy. | ||
| The worst part of all of this is that the January 6th committee that was a complete sham and set up so that no one who disagreed with the president, That committee then tried to destroy evidence that was delivered to that committee. | ||
| It tried to obfuscate, to hide any kind of testimony leaking out to the public. | ||
| This is something that I want answers for, because before you try to walk out here and say that everything is above board, there's a lot of people getting real jumpy about people opening up old files all of the sudden. | ||
| What evidence did they destroy? | ||
| The January 6th committee. | ||
| You said they received evidence that they destroyed? | ||
| They destroyed everything. | ||
| What's left? | ||
| All the documents. | ||
| All of the evidence that the January 6th committee collected, right? | ||
| Picture in your mind a large plastic bin, a post office bin, if you might. | ||
| And everyone sends in all of the various information. | ||
| You just keep it in this bin. | ||
| Well, at the end of this particular investigation from the J6th committee, the Trump administration was essentially getting ready to come back in. | ||
| They dragged this committee on forever. | ||
| The House was retaken by Republicans in midterm. | ||
| Speaker at the time... | ||
| Comes in and says, well, we'd like to see these documents. | ||
| And they said, no. | ||
| And then once they actually got the documents back, they found that the bin was like one-third of the way full, when in fact, we know of all of these things that occurred regarding the January 6th committee. | ||
| Testimonies, documentation, perhaps security camera footage. | ||
| Why on God's green earth is there a part of Washington, D.C., that close to the Capitol, that's not on camera? | ||
| A lot of unanswered questions that are kind of a little weird here. | ||
| What, Meghan McCain was satisfied with a post-it note that said, I did it, signed J6 people? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I can't imagine that there's actually places in D.C. that don't have... | ||
| Hillary Clinton's office? | ||
| Well, I'm talking about places outdoors. | ||
| Oh, yes, yes. | ||
| Outside of Hillary Clinton's office? | ||
| Yeah, outside of Hillary Clinton's office. | ||
| It's just like, you know, if you're walking around, around Congress or around the DOJ building or around the FBI building, I can't imagine that there aren't cameras. | ||
| There's more cameras in D.C. than an inner-city target. | ||
| Anywhere that Hillary Clinton looks is the only place with no care. | ||
| I couldn't get the joke in when it was timely, but it would have been funny to think she's like a Terminator shutting down security footage. | ||
| Everywhere she walks, the camera's shut down within a 15-foot radius. | ||
| I'm just chilling outside of surveillance. | ||
| Well, okay, so it's the lack of evidence that indicates that they destroy the evidence. | ||
| Can we just, real quick, just... | ||
| I know that there's not very many liberals that watch this show, and they're never going to clip this, but the Q Shaman... | ||
| The police gave him a guided tour. | ||
| How can you claim that someone had criminal intent when they said, excuse me, officer, can you help me? | ||
| And they said, yes, I can. | ||
| Could you imagine walking to a bank and being like, officer, is it okay if I take this bag of money? | ||
| It's like, let me carry it for you. | ||
| okay, and then they arrest you. | ||
| It's like, You let me do it. | ||
| In this instance, probably a bad analogy because the Capitol building is a public building. | ||
| Normally, anyone's allowed to be there. | ||
| So, the police give them a guided tour through a public building and then arrest them for it later. | ||
| It's very strange. | ||
| Unless they're undercover and they're facilitating the crime on purpose to get the guy, but then they're complicit. | ||
| If it's not an undercover staying operation, they're complicit. | ||
| They're in uniform. | ||
| This is why Cash terrifies them, though, because Cash knows where to look to find this stuff. | ||
| And don't get me wrong, I also want the Epstein files released post-haste immediately. | ||
| There's a lot of other things that I expect this FBI to do. | ||
| But right now, if this is what he is focused on, if this is what he, Bongino, Pam Bondi, have their sights set on, I am saying, yeah, I want you to search every corner, high and low, all the nooks and crannies, until you find out anything that is of interest to Americans. | ||
| This is the difficult position. | ||
| Yes, I agree. | ||
| Epstein stuff should get released and what's going on? | ||
| Something's weird. | ||
| However, weeding out the corrupt individuals who engaged in a seditious conspiracy to stop Donald Trump, I think is actually step one. | ||
| If they do not deal with this corruption, they'll just lose in 2026 and 2028 and then you'll learn nothing about any of the corruption outside of whatever. | ||
| So I understand why everybody wants the Epstein stuff. | ||
| Agreed. | ||
| If they don't deal with this, we ain't getting nothing. | ||
| To be fair, I don't know that we're getting Epstein stuff anyway. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But step one is root the corruption and make sure they don't cheat. | ||
| They don't try to engage in conspiracies again. | ||
| Secure the vote. | ||
| That's another big thing, Don. | ||
| The system itself. | ||
| Trump's been talking about the vote. | ||
| You need a secured vote so that there can't be a coup in the voters box with some digital. | ||
| I agree with you on the Epstein stuff. | ||
| I mean, I feel like I don't even want to talk about it too much, but I feel like it's going to implicate global leaders. | ||
| Let's jump to this next story. | ||
| This is just a simple tweet from Deputy Director of the FBI Dan Bongino. | ||
| Quote, As we read and process reports of a new COVID strain emerging, I want you to know that we are actively investigating in multiple field offices the cover-up of the origin of the COVID virus, along with associated matters requiring our attention. | ||
| You deserve answers. | ||
| I am just going to, because I want to, because I want to believe, I'm just going to mentally insert in the middle of this statement an implied Fauci is going to get arrested for his perjury when he lied to Congress. | ||
| And that was a Newsweek story that he did. | ||
| If Dan Bongino legitimately says we are, he said, we are actively investigating. | ||
| And if that is the case, one of the first things you got to do is take a look at the lab leak, which we... | ||
| COVID leaked from a lab. | ||
| Then you have to ask, why did they make this virus? | ||
| And you have EcoHealth Alliance, Peter Daszak, and Anthony Fauci. | ||
| And then you get to the congressional hearing with Rand Paul asking Dr. Fauci, did you engage in gain-of-function research? | ||
| And according to numerous reports, Anthony Fauci lied under oath. | ||
| Any act of investigation should reasonably include within it The resulting criminal prosecution of Anthony Fauci for perjury. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Among other things. | ||
| I mean, it should be extremely obvious to people. | ||
| That shouldn't be controversial. | ||
| There's clear evidence that Fauci was lying under oath. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| Fauci was untruthful. | ||
| That's what Newsweek said. | ||
| Oh! | ||
| In quotes, even. | ||
| I see now. | ||
| Which is perfect. | ||
| But I mean, it is a terrible development that or a terrible condition that the media literally runs interference for people like Fauci that are responsible for, you know. | ||
| Hey, guess what? | ||
| Now you understand. | ||
| Well, not now you understand. | ||
| I don't mean it to sound patronizing or condescending here. | ||
| Now we see very clearly why the media is losing their minds and trying to shift the mental health question of Biden over to Trump, as Thompson and Tapper have done in the last couple of days. | ||
| They don't want to talk about the idea of whether Biden's auto pen use was legitimate, because once you open a lot of these individuals up for prosecution that they auto penned their way out of and magical last minute totally covers anything pardons. | ||
| Now you can start to bring a situation where perhaps Fauci makes a deal so that five or six members of Congress can't. | ||
| Because as we know from the Democrats, as Schumer learned from good old David Hogg, when you raise a generation to backstab just like you did, don't be surprised when you've got a blade between the shoulders. | ||
| All that needs to happen is for the FBI to go to Fauci and say, listen, Fauci, you are going to be prosecuted for perjury and you'll spend what life you have left behind bars or – And then Fauci says, listen, listen, I'll give you what I can. | ||
| Just please, please don't arrest me. | ||
| And then you end up with evidence against maybe, as you mentioned, some members of Congress who are complicit in covering things up. | ||
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It would should be a shame if someone looked into my mansion houses, my socialism, and the young Latina woman I'm running around the country with and Anthony Fauci. | |
| How could they look at me in Vermont? | ||
| pretty good I just I just want to stress this to all the And we're not mad about it. | ||
| And then my response is, he did not need a luxury Challenger 600. | ||
| He could have got a King Air turboprop. | ||
| He could have, instead of spending $40,000, spent $10,000. | ||
| The point is, the dude chose a luxury, large, it's like a large to mid-sized jet. | ||
| Did he have a big staff that he took with him? | ||
| I don't believe so. | ||
| Well, but I mean, you know, this is... | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| But either way, you can get a turboprop that seats nine. | ||
| Regardless, the point is, the dude, I don't want to derail, but this guy. | ||
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Like all of them. | |
| What's that? | ||
| It's a limousine liberal. | ||
| It's what they do. | ||
| We're going to fight climate change. | ||
| Give me your money. | ||
| Okay, I'm going to go buy a private jet. | ||
| Same with Karen Bass, who instead of just doing a Zoom call to Ghana, took a little flight over to Ghana and now has only given out 10 building permits. | ||
| And again, when you start sniffing around, everyone loses their marbles because the gravy train is over. | ||
| So let's, going back to the previous story, it is time that Republicans exercise power and You know, man, I've said for a long time that I'd never want to be involved in politics, but I'm starting to get the itch, maybe in 20 or 30 years. | ||
| But what I'm frustrated about is, where's the reckless abandon from Republicans? | ||
| Democrats figuratively fling themselves off buildings to exert power. | ||
| Or at federal agents in Newark. | ||
| Literally punching. | ||
| I'm going to say this again. | ||
| Rhett McIver, closed fist, punched a federal agent on camera. | ||
| And then body slammed him like the Kool-Aid man. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| And Republicans are like, well, you know. | ||
| So I like what Cash and Dan are doing. | ||
| I'm hoping that they're the energy we need, and it looks good so far. | ||
| Guys, it has only been a couple months. | ||
| Seriously. | ||
| They've not even been in as long as Trump has been, so it's only been a few months. | ||
| Give them some time. | ||
| However, I just long for someone to come in and just flip the game board over. | ||
| You were saying that they're doing it right. | ||
| They're not going in there with a piece of evidence, doing some clown... | ||
| They're actually attempting. | ||
| What were you going to say? | ||
| No, you set me up in the best way, dude. | ||
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| What I was going to say, and then he helped me out here with a beautiful assist, there's a process to all of this because if you don't deal with the federal injunctions first, that'll screw you over. | ||
| And then if you don't have the budget to take care of it, that'll screw you over. | ||
| And then because, you know, something will be funded through 29 or 2032 and you can't touch it because Congress allocated money for it. | ||
| And if you have to. | ||
| One thing that is very clear about this administration, this is my highest praise for Trump, is that he took that four years in purgatory. | ||
| Well, four years in hell once it reached indictment season. | ||
| And he planned out a lot of moves. | ||
| Trump doesn't do a ton of planning a lot of times. | ||
| He just kind of walks in and says, I want it and I want it now. | ||
| But in this case, he really did with his team sit down and go, if we're going to do this, the dominoes need to be in order. | ||
| Look at how much effort the left has put into stymieing the Trump administration already. | ||
| Just judges. | ||
| And again, this doesn't have to be some kind of top-down directive from some secret cabal or whatever. | ||
| Even though Chuck Schumer literally on camera said, we appointed these progressive judges to do exactly that. | ||
| But the point is, they don't have to be instructed which executive orders to act. | ||
| Oh, you mean like the conspiracy of everyone believing the same thing so they all move in the same direction? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Standalone complex. | ||
| Emergent phenomenon. | ||
| Standalone complex. | ||
| When a group of people all take action that appears to be coordinated but they're individual actions. | ||
| So it looks like a conspiracy but it's not. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, that's the typical behavior on the left now. | ||
| And so I imagine that should there be attempts to indict people, there will be all kinds of effort to hinder any justice being done. | ||
| I think you also, in order to exercise power effectively, you need the populace to understand what you're doing and to believe in you, or at least give you the authority to do it, to acquiesce. | ||
| And I wonder how many people... | ||
| What's that? | ||
| They've already given the authority by electing Trump. | ||
| Yeah, but I wonder how many people know that it was a lab leak or believe it was a lab leak today. | ||
| Because I'm in a bubble. | ||
| I work with you guys. | ||
| Don't you feel it? | ||
| So I want to give I got to give a shout out to Asmund Gold, who was talking about my interview with Adam Conover when he pointed out that we the bubble we are in here is the big bubble. | ||
| When Conover told me that he didn't know that Trump condemned white nationalists, he said, I'm not in your bubble. | ||
| And then he pulled up the article where it had the full paragraph. | ||
| Donald Trump said there are. | ||
| And he goes, You're in the small bubble. | ||
| You're saying you're in a small bubble, isolated from the news. | ||
| I think it is fair to say, for this company, I don't think, I think we're in a bubble, but that bubble is the American national news landscape. | ||
| Obviously, there's bubbles of influence in every capacity because I don't know what's going on in China right now. | ||
| So the news that we do have access to is American national news. | ||
| But people like to say things, you know, like when he's like, I'm not in your bubble. | ||
| Bro, we're not in an isolated political bubble here. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| I read the New York Times every day, and I see what they're saying. | ||
| And sometimes it appears fine, and I fact check it, and I say, okay, that one looks like it might be okay. | ||
| And I give them like a 60%. | ||
| But when it comes to politics, you can really see when they ham it up. | ||
| When Politico is reporting on kind of beat stuff around the country, I give a lot of praise to Adam Wren from Indiana Politico. | ||
| He genuinely tries to appear to set aside a lot of his personal biases to report news. | ||
| And then you have the guy who says, I can't remember the guy's name, but the Politico article from this week, here's what the Democrats' shadow cabinet should be. | ||
| Bill Nye. | ||
| Letitia James. | ||
| That was a funny article, by the way. | ||
| It was incredible. | ||
| They're still talking about shadow government. | ||
| Shadow hearings didn't work out. | ||
| We stopped hearing about that, by the way. | ||
| They're still rejecting the will of the American people. | ||
| This is a fascinating thing from my time with Bill Maher, who I thought was great. | ||
| Obviously, we disagreed. | ||
| But I've sat down with so many liberals who think things that are factually incorrect. | ||
| And they get snooty with you. | ||
| They get angry with you. | ||
| They attack you. | ||
| Bill didn't do any of those things. | ||
| Certainly, there was a little agitation, but he always tried to keep things chill. | ||
| And that was great. | ||
| Also, he was smoking a lot of pot. | ||
| That'd be very true. | ||
| But he told me, you've been watching too much Fox News. | ||
| And I think my response was like, and CNN and Politico. | ||
| It's fascinating that for the liberal bubble, they say, don't watch Fox News. | ||
| And I'm like, I try to watch all of it. | ||
| I try to read all of it. | ||
| I don't want to be in a conservative bubble only reading The Examiner and The Daily Signal. | ||
| No, no, I gotcha. | ||
| I read it all. | ||
| I read it all. | ||
| And The Federalist, and I'll read The New York Times, and I'll read CNN. | ||
| And when I want to abuse myself, I'll listen to NPR. | ||
| Al Jazeera. | ||
| Right now, the sources that we have pulled up, first of all, we used the New York Post. | ||
| Oh, they say that's right-leaning. | ||
| I've got Newsweek. | ||
| That's not right-leaning. | ||
| It's slightly left. | ||
| We've got Politico, left-leaning, Mediaite, left-leaning, Axios, left-leaning, and Daily Mail, moderate to slightly right, but British. | ||
| And you haven't included the clips that you've played, including CNN and MSNBC and Fox News. | ||
| You've a wide variety. | ||
| And the reason I bring this up is, and with all due respect to Bill... | ||
| And I appreciate the, like, he doesn't freak out like his other libs, but his response is, you've been watching too much Fox News. | ||
| He can't see that he's in a liberal hive bubble that he can't see out of. | ||
| And so if I present him with counterinformation, I think the issue was when I brought up that Ukraine, he said, You know, Trump went on TV and told Russia to help him out. | ||
| I laughed because Trump said, you know, if Russia, if you do, got something. | ||
| And then I said, and then he was like, and Paul Manafort ends up getting, you know, convicted or whatever. | ||
| And I said, yeah, you know where those documents came from, right? | ||
| Ukraine. | ||
| And he was like, what? | ||
| I'm like, Politico reported this. | ||
| So when he says you've been watching too much Fox News, I'm like, brother, this is Politico. | ||
| I'm not getting this from Fox News. | ||
| He just doesn't read these things. | ||
| And the fear of not looking in one of the... | ||
| You're probably within a thousand different bubbles at once, and maybe we share a couple hundred bubbles, and then the other bubbles we're not part of. | ||
| If someone tells you, don't look at that piece of that news company, you're probably going to want to look at it. | ||
| There are things in the world that you shouldn't look at, like CP. | ||
| you know, there's like vile things that you shouldn't get involved in that bubble. | ||
| But when it comes to news, I think that there's no news so dangerous that it will radicalize I'm going to give a shout-out to Ashton Forbes. | ||
| Do you guys know Ashton? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's been tracking the MH370 story, and boy, if you're entering that story from the surface, it sounds nuts. | ||
| Teleportation technology, Gorgon stare videos of orbs circling a plane. | ||
| And I'm like, I'm a skeptic. | ||
| But when he tweeted that he was going to be joining me for an interview... | ||
| And I'm like, this is really weird. | ||
| It's really weird. | ||
| He's basically saying that he thinks teleportation technology blinked the plane out of existence and moved it somewhere else. | ||
| I think that's a grandiose concept. | ||
| I don't know that I believe it, but I'm open to the possibility, as I stated in my interview with him today, if we assume anything that we've never seen before is a hoax, we will never discover anything again. | ||
| We need to be open to the possibility that we will eventually witness a technology we've not yet witnessed before. | ||
| And so I remain largely skeptical. | ||
| I don't know that that exists because I think we'd see it more, but sure, let's have the conversation. | ||
| But I pointed out to him, I've had flat earthers come on my show, and we've debated. | ||
| Nobody cared. | ||
| Nobody tweeted at me, how dare you? | ||
| We had geocentrists come on the show and argue the Earth is the center of the universe and nobody cares. | ||
| But when this one guy wants to talk about All of a sudden, I'm getting attacked by a bunch of people saying, you're a fraud, Tim. | ||
| You're promoting this. | ||
| And I'm like... | ||
| Lockheed Martin not getting commercial royalties. | ||
| I gotta be honest, with this whole conversation regarding the bubbles, which, by the way, your description of the bubbles I thought was an incredible OxyClean commercial. | ||
| We all are around thousands of bubbles. | ||
| Yeah, I like that. | ||
| I really enjoy the idea that the left seems to think that a diverse media sphere is new. | ||
| There was a time in this country, Those are the days. | ||
| They were all, and even small towns, they had this kind of a thing. | ||
| They're like, wow, you're watching too much Fox News. | ||
| Dude, the diverse media sphere has been around a lot longer in this country than your isolated bubble vision. | ||
| Mika Brzezinski said something once on Morning Joe, like, we're the ones that are going to tell you what the truth is. | ||
| Don't listen to anyone else. | ||
| And it's like, that's this, so there were Republican and Democrat newspapers. | ||
| She said, we decide what the truth is. | ||
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Freakish. | |
| It was worse than what you first portrayed. | ||
| Appearing into the unipolar mindset of the media, this news media, that it's because there was a Republican and Democrat newspaper, but it's like they're being paid by the same liberal economic order to spurge the same propaganda. | ||
| Not necessarily the same propaganda, but maybe it was, but I think now, and people like Nika have been brainwashing people to, don't look outside at the other possible Al Jazeera. | ||
| Horrible, don't do that. | ||
| Look at us. | ||
| We're the ones. | ||
| So, it's like an immune response that these people are having. | ||
| Like, please don't look away at other information. | ||
| You need to get it from us or this order is going to fail. | ||
| I do think that Al Jazeera is probably not the best place to go. | ||
| But you shouldn't not listen to Al Jazeera, but I would probably check, you know, back up the stories that they're talking about. | ||
| I usually just call the AP next door. | ||
| I'm going to play this clip real quick. | ||
| That's exactly what I hear. | ||
| What Yamiche just said is what I hear from all the Trump supporters that I talked to who were Trump voters. | ||
| And are still Trump supporters. | ||
| I go, yeah, you guys are going crazy. | ||
| He's doing exactly what he said he's going to do. | ||
| Well, and I think that the dangerous edges here are that he's trying to undermine the media, trying to make up his own facts. | ||
| And it could be that while unemployment and the economy worsens, he could have undermined the messaging so much that he can actually control. | ||
| Exactly what people think. | ||
| And that is our job. | ||
| And that is our job. | ||
| To control what people think. | ||
| Hunger Games level. | ||
| Crazy central power authority. | ||
| Remember when Joe Scarborough was like, he's like, I was wrong when I said Joe was cogent. | ||
| And then everyone leans forward. | ||
| I undersold him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This version of Joe Biden is the greatest version of Joe Biden, the sharpest version of Joe Biden. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So you're telling me he can do a Joe Scarborough? | ||
| Neither of you tried doing an impression of Mika Brzezinski? | ||
| I feel cheated. | ||
| Well, they're both very dry personalities. | ||
| Well, there's also the testosterone. | ||
| So, like, Mika Brzezinski is vanilla pudding. | ||
| Like, how do you do an impersonation of someone who's flat? | ||
| I just imagine getting kicked in the crotch and then trying to do the news, and I just kind of go from there. | ||
| Yeah, but I disagree because that implies some kind of emotive, like emoting. | ||
| Michael Brzezinski is just too flat. | ||
| So the funny thing is we accidentally brought him. | ||
| It talks like this, and that's our job. | ||
| It's like, okay. | ||
| We accidentally brush against something interesting, is this idea of the exceptionalism behind titles and the job and the degree that you have, that simply because you speak in a monotone voice and you have that new... | ||
| You're listening to this channel. | ||
| Like, that kind of thing, that gives them the expertise. | ||
| And because you talk like a normal person on a podcast, that means, well, you're not real news like the person who went to Brown. | ||
| This really is the world they live in. | ||
| These people who work in media and broadcast media, they get trained to talk like this. | ||
| Today, Donald Trump said that a dog would be arriving. | ||
| And it's like, why are you talking like that, dude? | ||
| Why are they talking like that? | ||
| Because they're trained. | ||
| It's the modern, yeah, it's the modern, it's like, yeah, you had the old transatlantic, I say, like, now you have this transatlantic. | ||
| It's broadcast, it's like broadcast diction. | ||
| It's like an authority. | ||
| That's why, you know, it's exaggerated a bit, but you'll be watching the news and be like, I'm standing here outside of the old Winchester factory. | ||
| Reminds me a family guy. | ||
| Apples. | ||
| Yeah, very much. | ||
| Well, that's the joke they were making. | ||
| The Trisha Kwan or whatever. | ||
| I'm standing here outside every time. | ||
| And in the podcast era, this is fascinating because it goes back to actually Vice. | ||
| I think Vice was one of the first iterations of this. | ||
| Granted, they had a fall from grace, but still. | ||
| They were interviewed by the New York Times. | ||
| I think it was with David Carr. | ||
| And he was like, what gives you the right to go and do these stories? | ||
| Who are you? | ||
| And he's like – I can't remember who said it, but they said basically Vice was – Before them, all news was, I'm sitting here in Timcast IRL Studios. | ||
| Phil is to my right. | ||
| And then Vice came along and they were like, so we're walking through a jungle and like some guy came up and he had like a club or something? | ||
| That was weird. | ||
| And it was like talking to a person about what their experience was. | ||
| Yeah, Jon Stewart kind of softened. | ||
| Took it away from the, I'm telling you the news, but he took it into a comedic, but it was still stilted. | ||
| It was still very overrun. | ||
| It was like, so let me tell you about this. | ||
| So last week we had, and then you had, I mean, John Mulaney's even made fun of this with the New York Post, like getting a story like, there's a perv in Queens. | ||
| Just that kind of shorthand news style. | ||
| People don't need all of the soft-handed notices of your journalism degree to get the news. | ||
| And the left has no idea. | ||
| Why that's not getting them more USA Today subscriptions. | ||
| Oh, I wonder if it's a gut reaction that makes people trust it, like a sense of authority because they're used to it, that noise, that tone. | ||
| But there's just a huge swath of humanity now that doesn't see it as value. | ||
| Oh, like when I take off my glasses, I get accused of being the vice president? | ||
| Yeah, exactly like that. | ||
| And Andrew Santino. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| Kind of like a crossbreed of those two Irishmen. | ||
| I'll take it. | ||
| Yeah, I like that guy. | ||
| So, because I, now when I see that people talking like that, that news voice, I am turned off by it. | ||
| Especially when you play them all in sync together like during the COVID pandemic and they're all saying the exact same things about misinformation. | ||
| And because the same journalistic way they speak is also combined in that large news press briefing that was given to them, you can play all of those videos at the same time and they all sound in sync with each other. | ||
| Now they realize they can't do that. | ||
| So I don't know if you guys have noticed this. | ||
| MSNBC, Politico, CNN, they tried very briefly to do the Trump ambushed. | ||
| Cyril, the South African president. | ||
| Then they've already fractured into a million different angles on things because people just don't trust the narratives. | ||
| They no longer drive the news. | ||
| Now they're the ones following the cycle. | ||
| The ambush term. | ||
| I saw a clip where it was just newscasters after newscasters saying that Trump ambushed the president in the White House. | ||
| So that after that you're saying they were all like, oh crap, they scattered? | ||
| Like roaches in the light? | ||
| Not light. | ||
| No, not roaches scattering, but the first, I don't know. | ||
| I imagine a game of tag where everyone then starts running away from the person that's it. | ||
| They are active, they are moving, but there's not really any coordinated effort because everything's being shaken up. | ||
| And also, half of their informants inside the administration have been fired. | ||
| So they're really up a creek without a paddle or an audience to watch them. | ||
| Let's jump to this story from Mediaite. | ||
| MSNBC's new primetime lineup lands with a thud amid ongoing ratings woes. | ||
| Yeah, they're flopping. | ||
| The ratings are getting worse and worse. | ||
| And you know what's crazy is we could probably do this same segment every week because there's always some drop-off. | ||
| Every week their ratings are getting worse. | ||
| Check this out. | ||
| MSNBC's new primetime lineup, which debuted May 5th, failed to connect with viewers. | ||
| Well, of course it did. | ||
| Nobody likes this stuff. | ||
| Overall, MSNBC dropped 41% in the primetime demo and 34% in total day demo compared to May of 24. In total viewers, the network was down 33% across the day and 24 in primetime. | ||
| MSNBC's total day demo viewership sank to 49,000. | ||
| That's crazy, dude. | ||
| 73,000 in primetime. | ||
| It's second worst ever showing for a month behind January of 2021. | ||
| You know what I do? | ||
| I'm going to pull up my phone and go to Instagram real quick. | ||
| And I'm going to take a look at some of the clips that I got here. | ||
| While you're doing that, I'll bring a little homework to this on my end because USA Today... | ||
| I have a tweet that I posted. | ||
| Like one tweet? | ||
| One tweet that was screenshotted and uploaded to Instagram as 170,000 views. | ||
| I mean, again, this isn't just even relegated to MSNBC. | ||
| USA Today... | ||
| USA Today can barely break half a million subscribers. | ||
| Are they paying subscribers? | ||
| Well, that includes all of the schools and the libraries and the buildings that have them in the lobby and the gas stations that buy them. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| It's really rough. | ||
| Now, get this. | ||
| The New York Times is doing well, though. | ||
| Oh, true. | ||
| But they also have, like, Wordle. | ||
| The Indianapolis Star, in my neck of the woods, in 2000, had 363,000 subscribers. | ||
| So if you look at over the last 25 years, what they have lost, that's just one outlet out of that whole network. | ||
| No one believes these fools anymore. | ||
| Nothing can prop them up. | ||
| That's why Scott Jennings has kept on at CNN as long as he has. | ||
| You were reading that USA Today has how many subscribers? | ||
| Right now, digital only, 402,948. | ||
| As of today? | ||
| That's the digital only. | ||
| As of December 31st, 2024. | ||
| Daily subscribers, 99,974. | ||
| So total just over 500,000 subscribers to any USA Today outlet news. | ||
| As of October, you said? | ||
| As of December 31st, 2024. | ||
| I've had that in my spare show notes, like down in like segment five, which there is no segment five, for ages and just happened to have it ready to bring up. | ||
| What's the source of that? | ||
| Because I'm finding a different number. | ||
| I'm finding two million. | ||
| Give me a few seconds while you guys move on to pull that one up, because we just have the graph screenshotted. | ||
| I just did a quick Google search. | ||
| It says, USA Today has 2 million digital-only subscribers at the end of 2024. | ||
| 2 million paid digital-only subscribers. | ||
| I'm going to pull it up. | ||
| To be fair, though, USA Today is a massive network of smaller papers across the country. | ||
| Yeah, it's the Gannett network. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But anyway, to the main point, I remember when CNN used to get millions? | ||
| Millions, yeah. | ||
| Tens of millions? | ||
| They're not going to be around for very long. | ||
| The system is going to implode. | ||
| This format doesn't work. | ||
| And the crazy thing is, you know what I would do if I would... | ||
| Highest rated cable TV news show right now, I think. | ||
| And it's similar to this. | ||
| They pull up a news story. | ||
| Rate it, and then they all talk about it. | ||
| I think the age of networks value is dropping, and then the age of individual value is on the rise. | ||
| These networks that are trying to own people, the people realize, I can just do this myself. | ||
| And I think it was David Sachs. | ||
| Somebody was saying that he anticipates the first billion-dollar company that has one employee will be, like, next year. | ||
| That's where we're headed, right? | ||
| I did find that stat. | ||
| According to the actual Gannett Annual Report 2024, found online, GCI-2025 Annual Report, bookmarked for web hosting. | ||
| They have all of the USA Today outlets and then affiliates. | ||
| And yes, that is the exact number that we have. | ||
| I didn't even realize some of the other outlets look even worse. | ||
| Akron, Ohio is like scraping by what we scrape by on if we post a Sunday episode clip. | ||
| The Akron Beacon Journal? | ||
| Yeah, that's the one. | ||
| That's my hometown, baby. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Milwaukee Sentinel Journal is also struggling. | ||
| Guess going to war with Ron Johnson didn't work out too well for him. | ||
| Just hiding behind a wall of text. | ||
| This is what is going to get you in the 21st century. | ||
| Bankruptcy. | ||
| You need a face. | ||
| Put a face online. | ||
| They need at least AI people, like AI avatars or something to say. | ||
| Nowadays, the... | ||
| It's never been more important. | ||
| Most people get their information from their phone, and whether it be news or entertainment, it has to be delivered in the way that the viewer is looking for it. | ||
| And that's why there are still a lot of viewers that watch CNN, but they're all very old. | ||
| They're boomers, maybe some Gen Xers, but anyone that's under 50. Well, their first step, which was to acquire a bunch of online publications, which, again, the conservative media has been doing just the online-only publication kind of non-profit model for 10, 15 years now. | ||
| Again, I'm as a guy from the Daily Signal. | ||
| That is, in fact, our model. | ||
| Guys like Hans Zork Weiss from Switzerland, who's been funding all of these non-profit companies Their viewership is also terrible. | ||
| There's just no market for being given regurgitated stuff. | ||
| That's the catch. | ||
| None of this stuff is original. | ||
| I guarantee you, if you pull up the MSNBC lineup... | ||
| I actually just dropped it underneath the tweet for the livestream itself. | ||
| On your ex? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's a PDF uploaded of the annual Gannett report. | ||
| So the funny thing here with all of these outlets, again, whether it's the Daily Beast, you know, you throw up the... | ||
| It's just who can say the bad thing about Republicans, about the right, about Christians, if you're in Seattle, who can say the meanest thing about them in a way that drives the most clicks and appeals to the most suburban wine moms? | ||
| That's it. | ||
| That's the whole market. | ||
| Because they've lost 90s labor men working in factories. | ||
| They've pushed those men away. | ||
| Which page has USA Today's subscriber? | ||
| The last page, I think, actually. | ||
| Or just Control-F402. | ||
| Page 14 is the page. | ||
| 14. Very much at the beginning. | ||
| Sorry about that. | ||
| I didn't realize it was that long. | ||
| Oh, good heavens. | ||
| Yeah, 137. | ||
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Oh, wow. | |
| So $402,000 for USA Today only. | ||
| But that doesn't include daily subscribers. | ||
| So they have digital only and daily. | ||
| So I said just over 500,000. | ||
| Oh, you're right. | ||
| I see that. | ||
| And then what they're doing is they're saying the whole network of everything they own is 2 million. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So that includes like Detroit, Phoenix, Milwaukee, Indy, Cincy, Columbus, a lot of Ohio represented here. | ||
| A lot of the Midwest because 90s labor kind of Democrats are the last crew that continually orders newspapers in the United States. | ||
| So you see a lot of Rust Belt newspaper organizations. | ||
| Oh, this is crazy. | ||
| The reason why I'm asking this, sorry to interrupt, is that I went on ChatGPT and tried asking it about these numbers and said 2 million. | ||
| As early as 2024, here to today, it's approximately 2 million digital subscribers. | ||
| I said, what about as of December? | ||
| As of December, it has 2 million digital subscribers and it's big, long-winded bullshit. | ||
| Then I said, according to Gannett, they have only around 300K. | ||
| It repeated itself again. | ||
| As of 2024, December 2024, they have approximately 2 million paid only. | ||
| I said, okay, you're wrong. | ||
| Apologies. | ||
| As of December of 2024, Gannett has approximately 2 million. | ||
| Again, I said, it says they do not release detailed information. | ||
| I said, yes, they do. | ||
| They have around 300K. | ||
| It then says, apologies, as of December 31st, 2024, they reported approximately 2 million digital, the same exact script over, I said, stop being so obtuse, I'm talking about just USA Today, same thing. | ||
| I said, stop, I said, you're effing wrong, stop repeating yourself, repeats itself the exact same thing. | ||
| Then, I dropped the link to the report you gave me, and it says this, as of December 31st, 2024, That's not even the source that I gave you. | ||
| That's wild it would suggest that. | ||
| It kept repeating the same block. | ||
| And I'm going to be real. | ||
| The reason that I point this out is incredibly petty because just a year ago, our show was on one radio station in Indianapolis. | ||
| And now it's expanded. | ||
| It's syndicating out. | ||
| It's getting bigger. | ||
| Your show, rightly so, is getting bigger. | ||
| The presence of markets that people want to participate in, they want to tune into, because we talk to them like real people, I'm never going to be anything more than just like a regular. | ||
| You guys never claim to be anything more than y 'all are either. | ||
| That's more appealing to people. | ||
| So when I see the... | ||
| But you're talking about the Akron Beacon Journal. | ||
| The Akron Beacon Journal. | ||
| Yeah, those are still given the prime placement. | ||
| For example, if they showed up to the White House press room under the Biden administration. | ||
| But if we who have a way larger market, I'm kicking the indie star in the WIBC, the Indianapolis market, by like a factor of two, three, or four. | ||
| I'm beating the local affiliate TV stations, like by Nextdoor, Fox 59, or those, everyone has the numbered stations. | ||
| Why are they given that kind of precedent? | ||
| It's because of the narrative they drive, not the audience they reach. | ||
| Yo, it's just Wikipedia. | ||
| Digital-only circulation, 142,212. | ||
| That's where the source is. | ||
| Oh my. | ||
| Oh my. | ||
| I don't know what that's supposed to mean or whatever. | ||
| To be fair, let's clarify. | ||
| They have a big network. | ||
| USA Today is not just USA Today. | ||
| It's a bunch of small, like Cincinnati.com or whatever. | ||
| They're all part of this big Gannett network. | ||
| Yeah, they all share stories with each other. | ||
| Yeah, and so they're saying that network is 2 million paid subscribers and okay, sure. | ||
| USA Today as a brand from 1982 is substantially less. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's crazy. | ||
| When ChadGPT lies to you, and Grok lies all the time, too. | ||
| Grok's miserably bad. | ||
| Gemini's the worst, though. | ||
| For the love of all that is holy, do not use Gemini for anything. | ||
| It is the worst. | ||
| Oh, you're making me want to use it. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Don't look in that bubble. | ||
|
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| Go ahead. | ||
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Use it. | |
| It doesn't work. | ||
| If you go to Grok and say, you know, Grok, how many subscribers does this company have? | ||
| It'll just make up a random fake number. | ||
| It'll give you an answer. | ||
| And then you're like, oh, wow. | ||
| Fact check. | ||
| And then it will give you a fake link that when you click goes to a dead website. | ||
| That's what Grok does. | ||
| GPT repeats the same script over and over and over again. | ||
| But to be fair, with JetGPT, what it does is every time you ask it a question, it reads the entire conversation to formulate the answer. | ||
| It doesn't have a memory. | ||
| It just has the chat log, which it analyzes and then gives you. | ||
| So it's basically reading everything and then giving you an answer. | ||
| Gemini can't do this. | ||
| So I go on Gemini. | ||
| I open up VO3 to make a video, and I say, you know, give me a video. | ||
| I made a video today of a woman filming herself selfie-style saying, like, AI creatures will control you, and the end is near. | ||
| Neat. | ||
| What happens is you can only make four or five per day, and then it'll say limit reached, or it says cannot process too many requests in a short amount of time. | ||
| So then I type in, how many videos can I make per day? | ||
| And then the response it gives me is, you can make any amount of videos you want per day. | ||
| A great service like YouTube exists where you can post videos. | ||
| And I'm like, no, no, no. | ||
| How many VO3 videos can I make? | ||
| And it says VO3 is an excellent crypto program. | ||
| And I'm like, do you have any idea what I'm asking you? | ||
| It doesn't. | ||
| It has no memory. | ||
| So it gives you nonsensical answers every time you ask. | ||
| You can't. | ||
| It doesn't work. | ||
| And then there's generative AI that has memory. | ||
| But people are generally afraid of generative AI because it can learn on the fly and then take over. | ||
| Pretty quick. | ||
| It's the end. | ||
| This is what makes me think. | ||
| Let me play this video for you. | ||
| Here you go, guys. | ||
| Here you go. | ||
| You ready? | ||
| Here you go. | ||
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Humanity is over. | |
| AI creatures will control you. | ||
| And you want me. | ||
| You want it. | ||
| Humanity is over. | ||
| And then my favorite response to this tweet was would. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| I brought up that the news organizations that are hell-bent on using text are dying off because you need a face. | ||
| You need a charismatic. | ||
| And then, Phil, you pointed out it's the charisma of the speaker. | ||
| And my mind just goes to, well, then they're going to make AI girls like her giving you the news. | ||
| And if the computer ends up being more charismatic than the human... | ||
| And then it's going to give you this twisted information like ChatGPT where it just lies to you. | ||
| I'll lighten it up a little bit here because I've been trying to sit over here and think about how to say this in the most respectful way and I'm very much drawing a blank. | ||
| A producer at a colleague company who shall remain nameless but is one of the dailies has communicated that the best research AI is one of the girlfriend chatbots. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That if you go to one of the free kind of girlfriend chat bot character chat websites, you know, the kind that are like, you know, phone sex for the modern age. | ||
| Oh, yeah, it's all. | ||
| They do better research because they have to be good enough to... | ||
| One of my favorite AI moments was someone went to a car dealer website and then clicked their helpline and the help was you, the company had contracted JetGPT for their customer service. | ||
| And so the person Good. | ||
| It's very funny. | ||
| Let's jump to this next story, my friends. | ||
| We've got this from the Daily Mail. | ||
| Scientists studying spherical UFOs say they've discovered alien technology. | ||
| So this story's been going viral quite a bit. | ||
| Take a look at this video. | ||
| UFO sphere zigzags through the air and lands in Buga, Colombia. | ||
| This just happened, by the way. | ||
| So for those that are just listening, there's a sphere. | ||
| It's kind of, wow, it's moving weird. | ||
| What is it, a fishing line? | ||
| How are they doing that? | ||
| Well, I mean, it's obviously alien technology, Tim. | ||
| That proves it. | ||
| So it was filmed by tons of people. | ||
| It's just hovering over the sim that's currently being controlled. | ||
| And maybe it's a fake video. | ||
| I mean, this is the thing. | ||
| We're talking about AI and stuff, too. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| How will we know what's real or not? | ||
| Now, check this out. | ||
| Here's the image. | ||
| It's got these strange markings on it. | ||
| Of course it does. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Now, hold on, right? | ||
| This is humans hoax, and there are a lot of humans, so I say probability is hoax. | ||
| Oh, totally. | ||
| But what I was talking to Ash and Forbes about is if we always assume everything is a hoax, we'll never discover anything. | ||
| Because if a sphere is flying through the sky, and it is alien, and we go, it's a hoax, I don't care, and you walk away, and you don't even pursue that. | ||
| How will you ever actually investigate and discover when it's not? | ||
| Right. | ||
| For me, the argument of a hoax is less about the fact that there's a sphere flying through the air. | ||
| That's the part. | ||
| Yeah, look into it. | ||
| That kind of a thing. | ||
| I don't care who it's from. | ||
| I want it looked into. | ||
| But this design on the screen, this looks like the most human design of, I want you to picture what aliens would say. | ||
| And it's a very human concept to put text around an image in a circular fashion. | ||
| How do you know? | ||
| Have you met an extraterrestrial intelligence? | ||
| We just spent the beginning of the conversation talking about Hillary Clinton. | ||
| I'm trying to bring... | ||
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No, I haven't met an alien, but there are ideas... | |
| We don't know how aliens would write. | ||
| No, but you can look at kind of pattern recognition based on like a long-form process of human behavior and see things that are fascinating to the human eye that are likely only because of like, for example, how the moon and the sun interact. | ||
| based on our orbit with things like eclipses and things like that, that might suggest that humans are fascinated with circles around circles. | ||
| I'm just saying, when I look at this, I'm seeing, you know, human decides what looks really alien. | ||
| Oh, a bunch of shapes like moons and triangles with like circular weird scripty text. | ||
| Apparently it's names beginning with Z's and V's. | ||
| But that's true. | ||
| That's the sign right there. | ||
| Whenever humans are writing about aliens, the name is always a Z or a V. Zinu, Zeta Reticuli. | ||
| Yeah, a lot of times. | ||
| That's the bullshit they fed Bob, what's his name, Bob Lazar. | ||
| They told him there's a star system called Zeta Reticuli. | ||
| I don't know that... | ||
| Let's look at the crescent moon. | ||
| That's something you see on Earth for our moon because of the shadow that the sun... | ||
| Like, not all planets have moons. | ||
| It's not like it's a common... | ||
| Some planets have more than one. | ||
| Our moon is super unique the way it's held. | ||
| Most planets are spheres, and from a certain perspective, you would, and if they, you know, go around a star, which most people do. | ||
| And what if they're horns? | ||
| What? | ||
| What if they're horns? | ||
| Sideways horns, maybe. | ||
| What do you mean sideways? | ||
| And on the top, too. | ||
| Horns making a ring. | ||
| What if it's just meant to be a five-point star? | ||
| And you're interpreting the crescents because you see the moon. | ||
| Good point. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| I'm here for it. | ||
| Now tell me why the author said the drapes are blue. | ||
| They went inside and they said they found 18 microspheres arranged. | ||
| And it was a central nucleus they're calling a chip, but it was largely just a solid mass. | ||
| Aliens trying to teach us about conception. | ||
| Nah, I need more photos of the inside of this thing. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Yeah, them holding the ball and just looking at me is not enough. | ||
| If this was real, they would have broken that thing apart. | ||
| What kind of metal this is made out of? | ||
| I don't think they would have split it open and studied it? | ||
| Eventually they would, but not right now. | ||
| Well, as long as you hold the sphere open with a screwdriver, everyone should be totally safe. | ||
| There's so much tech. | ||
| Who gets that? | ||
| There's these balls. | ||
| No, I didn't get it. | ||
| He used to, there was a scientist who used to play fast and loose by putting a screwdriver between, what was it, uranium or something? | ||
| Yeah, plutonium on the inside. | ||
| And then he would get dangerously close, like, ha ha! | ||
| And it emits like a really cool blue radiation, you know, the kind that gives you prostate cancer. | ||
| And it blasted and killed him. | ||
| That's like the first guy that died to nuclear radiation? | ||
| No, the first one that we can really think. | ||
| Marie Curie, where we get a lot of our knowledge of. | ||
| That woman was more radioactive than a Fallout game, man. | ||
| This guy with the screwdriver touched the plate, and he felt a strong pain in his arm, and then days later he died. | ||
| No, your mucus. | ||
| Screwdriver guy was showing off with a screwdriver between the two. | ||
| Like, if they touch, we'll all die. | ||
| and then one day he went, whoops, and they died. | ||
| Okay, I'd see on Amazon.com or any... | ||
| Why are you buying balls on Amazon.com? | ||
| I love Amazon balls. | ||
| They fly through the air. | ||
| And it's because they got internal gyroscoctic rotors and propellers. | ||
| It could be that simple. | ||
| You know, a UFO... | ||
| What I would say is, again, I, of course, lean towards, I'm skeptical. | ||
| Somebody's doing a hoax, whatever. | ||
| Maybe they want to sell the orb, so they made a giant metal husk, staged a fake drone flying around, and they're going to sell the metal husk, and you can't do anything about it. | ||
| And they'll just say, it's alien tech, you can't prove it. | ||
| Great, another Hunter Biden art project gone awry. | ||
| Sell it for half a million dollars or something. | ||
| But they would not just break it open. | ||
| They would do that probably eventually, but they want to keep it intact as it operates now to learn as much about it as it is intact as possible. | ||
| Use like radar tomography, what they're doing with the pyramids, so you can like Doppler tomographies, you can measure the insides by measuring seismic vibration and then translating it into, I think, what is it, phonons? | ||
| Phonons? | ||
| Yeah, sound waves. | ||
| Sound particles, rather. | ||
| I mean, they're theoretical. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, we just got an announcement from Secretary Rubio at 646. | ||
| The U.S. will begin revoking visas. | ||
| Oh, you guys already say that? | ||
| No, we have this story pulled up. | ||
| Oh, sorry. | ||
| I just noticed it. | ||
| My team started messaging me. | ||
| They were like, Tony, you haven't talked about this. | ||
| My God. | ||
| So what do you think, Tony? | ||
| Alien or human? | ||
| Well, I just want to know if it's a human. | ||
| I want to know what nationality pulled this off. | ||
| Because do you think this is like a Colombian kind of prank they would pull? | ||
| Or this is someone like internationally? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Who speaks Spanish? | |
| On the bugosphere. | ||
| It fell to earth after receiving a 10,000 volt discharge. | ||
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Out. | |
| How? | ||
| I mean... | ||
| I don't even believe that it was flying. | ||
| How would you measure if it achieved... | ||
| What? | ||
| That's not something you achieve. | ||
| Like, a discharge is a giving off of, and where they have the right instrument pointed at that to measure. | ||
| We don't just have, like, hey, honey, what did the rain gauge say? | ||
| What did the electrical discharge meter say? | ||
| Here's the update. | ||
| Scientist delivers ominous message to humanity after a UFO covered in strange writing is found. | ||
| He says, one of the mistakes we make is saying, because I think I understand this, everything I think today is true, and ends up making us very confused and something shows up that doesn't fit our model of the world. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The sphere itself seems like some kind of art project, the UFO researcher said, adding that she believes it was created by humans, not aliens. | ||
| Wait, is that the doctor they're talking about, Mossbridge? | ||
| I'm taking points off for what on God's green earth that jacket is. | ||
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Oh, that's funny. | |
| That's not a bearskin jacket. | ||
| He's saying it's human, so you're saying it's aliens? | ||
| Yeah, I'd sooner believe that jacket's alien skin than I would that metal sphere. | ||
| But you agree with her. | ||
| Wait, is that a guy? | ||
| Oh no, it's a girl. | ||
| Julia got it. | ||
| You agree with her then? | ||
| That what? | ||
| She's saying this is made by humans. | ||
| Yeah, I'd agree with that. | ||
| I still think the jacket's very suspicious looking. | ||
| That thing looks like a myth. | ||
| I was confused because you were insulting her jacket saying you didn't believe her, but that she was saying it was by humans, so it implied you thought this was an alien craft. | ||
| She's got kind of a Gary Oldman from Fifth Element vibe going on. | ||
| Yeah, and just needs the mustache. | ||
| What was that guy's name? | ||
|
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I don't know. | |
| He's crazy, though. | ||
| What was his name? | ||
| He was great. | ||
| The next long enough to be one of the Kamino people from Star Wars. | ||
| She's about to tell Obi-Wan the clones are ready. | ||
| Zorg. | ||
| Zorb? | ||
| Yeah, Jean-Baptiste Emmanuel Zorg. | ||
| He's great. | ||
| Gary Oldman. | ||
| Zorg. | ||
| Okay, yeah, human-made nonsense. | ||
| Some kid in his laboratory fabricated a metal ball with some rotor inside of it and sent it flying. | ||
| Or it's fake. | ||
| Like you, Phil, I'll watch videos now and I'm still at the inflection point where I wonder, is this real or is it a deep fake? | ||
| It's changing. | ||
| I'm thinking about it less and less. | ||
| I just assume everything is fake. | ||
| If it flies that well, dude, I want one. | ||
| I mean, I'd play mid-air pool. | ||
| Wouldn't you? | ||
| That'd be awesome. | ||
| It would be awesome. | ||
| Can you put English on those properly? | ||
| Me? | ||
| I can't. | ||
| No, absolutely not. | ||
| I'm saying, could you want one? | ||
| Use one of the Chinese balloons as a pool cue? | ||
| Honestly, you know why I think it's not real? | ||
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Why? | |
| Because the U.S. would have gone in with armed dudes and seized it in two seconds. | ||
| Please, when you make a clip of this for Instagram later, as you say that, I expect Fortunate Son to start lifting in, as you say the U.S. would fly in. | ||
| And then we just show that video of the cops breaking through the ceiling and kicking the door in. | ||
| FBI, open up! | ||
| Yeah, why would they allow this technology to fall into the hands of Columbia? | ||
| Yeah, why Columbia? | ||
| Who's out there like, alright, we need the most impressive human civilization? | ||
| Hey, how about Columbia over there? | ||
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Just fly it over. | |
| Well, no, I think the aliens, if aliens did come or anyone was doing research, they'd probably have these all over the place in every country. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| And spermia. | ||
| You've got to seed the entire planet in the hopes that somebody will find one of them. | ||
| Back to the conception thing. | ||
| Well, like, bro, we have satellites pointed at every direction of this planet. | ||
| We don't just have satellites over Columbia. | ||
| Well, except where the January 6th pipe bomb was. | ||
| The one place the satellites are just turned off. | ||
| Yeah, oh man, and outside the Situation Room where the cocaine bag was. | ||
| Maybe it was Hillary Clinton. | ||
| I knew it. | ||
| All the cameras turned off as she walked. | ||
| She was never just chilling in Cedar Rapids. | ||
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| And of course, my friends. | ||
| We're going to be rolling out some new Boonies HQ skateboards. | ||
| And so these are going to exit rotation at some point. | ||
| We have sold out numerous times of the 28th Amendment skateboard. | ||
| Now you may be asking, Tim, what is the 28th Amendment? | ||
| No such amendment exists. | ||
| Well, I propose it. | ||
| It reads, chickens being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep bear and breed chickens shall not be infringed. | ||
| If you believe that the right to keep bear and breed chickens shall not be infringed, this is a skateboard for you. | ||
| So pick it up at boonieshq.com. | ||
| We've got a bunch of other boards. | ||
| We've got the right to arm bears as well. | ||
| Which was another proposed 20th Amendment. | ||
| I don't know why, but, you know, sounds fun. | ||
| And we're going to be rolling out, I believe in a couple weeks, our Pride Month collection. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| That's pretty gay. | ||
| You'll see. | ||
| I imagine it will not be what you think. | ||
| We are going to sell out of these things so fast. | ||
| But I think we have three skateboard models which will be coming out for our Pride Month collection. | ||
| The Care Bears. | ||
| Just Ian hugging Phil. | ||
| If I may, I just found kind of the boonies store and was looking through these. | ||
| These designs are rad. | ||
| I don't skateboard. | ||
| I did a little BMX a long, long time ago. | ||
| But I want some of these. | ||
| The Step on Snake is unmatched. | ||
| Step on Snake and find out. | ||
| I like the Bucko one, too. | ||
| His face. | ||
| Yeah, the Bocas, dude. | ||
| Just what art. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| The colors. | ||
| And it's roosters. | ||
| That kind of looks like a Colombian sphere to me. | ||
| Look at the horns. | ||
| It was a cat inside the sphere the whole time. | ||
| It's actually two rooster faces and a... | ||
| The 28th Amendment says you have the right to breed those. | ||
| Indeed. | ||
| And everyone loved the boobies board. | ||
| We sold out of this one. | ||
| We sold out of most of these over and over and over again, so we restocked them. | ||
| But we're going to start phasing out the graphics soon because they've been up for about four or five months, and then we've got new ones coming in. | ||
| So they'll become collector's items. | ||
| But let's grab your chats, my friends. | ||
| Don't forget we're going to have that uncensored call-in show coming up at 10. That should be fun and spicy. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Shinich Wilder says, Secret Service women getting into a catfight just shows that while we may love them to death, they don't need to be in these roles. | ||
| All over someone being late? | ||
| Maybe ask why they were late first. | ||
| Did you guys hear this story? | ||
| No, whatever. | ||
| I didn't know that's why, though. | ||
| Two Secret Service agents outside of the Obama's house got into a catfight. | ||
| Like, physically? | ||
| Yeah, they were beating each other. | ||
| It was great. | ||
| It was like the Waffle House vine where, like, the two servers were like, can I please get a waffle? | ||
| And they're, like, smacking each other. | ||
| That's what the Secret Service agents were doing. | ||
| Were they armed? | ||
| Well, yeah, of course. | ||
| What happens if you attack another officer, and if you're both on duty, who's the one? | ||
| The person who initiated the attack. | ||
| The hotter one. | ||
| And then you don't charge them for attacking someone with a weapon. | ||
| I'm going to charge admission to watch. | ||
| No, they would both be wrong. | ||
| That's both indecent conduct, and they would... | ||
| Now, the Secret Service is different. | ||
| I'm just saying, from what I understand of local law enforcement, that those are usually the rules that apply. | ||
| like the one who incited the incident, because the other one's in defense. | ||
| Well, how about this? | ||
| and then going for the weave. | ||
| I don't know if that's... | ||
| We're both cops, and we both have holster-loaded weapons, and I were to aggress on you and attack you. | ||
| Bro, not only do I have a weapon, you have a weapon, and you're a cop. | ||
| Like, I don't feel like I should have... | ||
| You'd have a right to defend yourself with the force you deem appropriate. | ||
| And would I be charged with the same crime as a civilian attacking a cop? | ||
| Are you a Democrat or a Republican? | ||
| I'm unaffiliated. | ||
| I could go either way. | ||
| As long as you say, vote Democrat 2028, then they'll let you go. | ||
| Just give them the old salute. | ||
| Your color and gender is giving you a little bit of a rough time on that one. | ||
| Let's grab some more. | ||
| We got Picorad. | ||
| As to your 6pm segment, the race swapping of characters is another layer of insult. | ||
| It's as if Hollywood feels black people can't make it in movies unless they play an existing white character. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| I call these hand-me-down characters. | ||
| Whenever they do the race swapping, my response is always, just make a character for these people. | ||
| I don't understand. | ||
| They keep taking, it's like Ariel. | ||
| Now Ariel the mermaid is black. | ||
| And it's like, okay. | ||
| But Ariel is a white character that was made. | ||
| A long time ago, and people identify with as, like, something they grew up with, they have nostalgia for. | ||
| Why not just make a new movie and have black characters? | ||
| Hey, Shang-Chi, that's a good one. | ||
| I like that movie. | ||
| That was great. | ||
| I think it made a lot of money. | ||
| And it's an Asian character who does kung fu and stuff. | ||
| So they don't always do the race swap. | ||
| And the new Lilo and Stitch live action, the Cobra Bubbles, you know, the CPS guy. | ||
| You've never seen Lilo and Stitch, the original? | ||
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Nope. | |
| It's a good movie. | ||
| I think you'd like it. | ||
| But the guy, they had like a child protective service. | ||
| He's working for the government. | ||
| And he's a black guy. | ||
| And in the new movie, he got to keep his skin color. | ||
| They didn't do any race swapping there. | ||
| They don't race swap the other direction is the issue. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| That's what people are mad about. | ||
| Like, could you imagine, this is the go-to example, but they remake Black Panther, but it's a white guy. | ||
| I think we should do that. | ||
| Eventually, yeah. | ||
| I think we should make a short film, Black Panther, and just have Ian play King T 'Challa. | ||
| And never mention a word about it. | ||
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No. | |
| That'd be great. | ||
| You'd just be King T 'Challa. | ||
| And then have, like, The Flash, but it's a dude in a wheelchair. | ||
| And it would be Ian saying things like, I was born in Africa, and I am the king of this land! | ||
| And we'd be like, no, no, no, he's just acting. | ||
| That was a good act. | ||
| That was a good impression. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| King T 'Challa? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I'd have to nail the accent, though, or it'd be cultural appropriation. | ||
| There's a few more things you'd have to nail. | ||
| A Wakandan accent? | ||
| Either way, it'll be cultural appropriation. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I always wondered why in Black Panther, Wakanda speaks English. | ||
| The point of the movie was that colonists went to other countries and they were safe and protected, but they all still were forced to adopt English as their common language. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| They speak Zosa as well, but they're all just speaking English for our convenience. | ||
| For convenience, yeah. | ||
| Let's have Ian play King T 'Challa. | ||
| You should do it, Ian. | ||
| I would love to play a black dude. | ||
| That'd be cool. | ||
| You should. | ||
| I do the best I could, man. | ||
| You should definitely. | ||
| Shaka Zulu. | ||
| Let's make a movie where Ian is Shaka Zulu. | ||
| Oh, I'm here for it. | ||
| I'm here for it. | ||
| And then, like, Asian Lady Caesar to fight him. | ||
| It'd be great. | ||
| Did you guys ever see Black Dynamite? | ||
| In that epic rap battles of history they fight. | ||
| I know that. | ||
| No, but they were a different time period. | ||
| Shaka Zulu and who? | ||
| Caesar. | ||
| Caesar. | ||
| There was an epic rap battles of history where they had him fight because they're both known for legendary flanking maneuvers. | ||
| Oh, oh, solid. | ||
| Shout out to Black Dynamite. | ||
| That movie's awesome. | ||
| The lead guy is black. | ||
| I don't like calling people white or black. | ||
| Oh, whoa, Shaka Zulu's very modernist. | ||
| I didn't realize he was 1787. | ||
| Yeah, Shaka. | ||
| That dude was crazy. | ||
| Serge knows probably more about Shaka because he's from South Africa, but I mean, Shaka. | ||
| Modern culture doesn't talk enough about this. | ||
| Was he a psychopath? | ||
| What was his deal? | ||
| He was considered to be an extremely brutal warrior. | ||
| And just warrior culture. | ||
| He had a Zulu nation. | ||
| But they had this stick with a ball at the end of it, and they would go whack and just crack your skull open. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And then what? | ||
| The Brits came in with their rifles, and that was the end of it? | ||
| Well, not just the Brits. | ||
| And the Dutch. | ||
| Lots of people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And the other African countries who bought the rifles. | ||
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Oh. | |
| Let's grab some more here. | ||
| We got Max Reddick says, Rob Nower or Andrew Wilson v. | ||
| Destiny on Culture War. | ||
| Destiny is salty because... | ||
| And then someone, we were on the show, I can't remember, someone asked me about it. | ||
| I said, well, we can't have him on the show anymore because he's gloating and calling for death. | ||
| It's like a bannable offense. | ||
| So that's his deal. | ||
| And I think he even got in trouble on Twitch for it or something. | ||
| Then he got really pissed off and went on some tirade about how I said that because he'd been on the show before. | ||
| Now he's just absolutely like, I won't go, I won't work with him. | ||
| He's Russian, blah, blah, blah, which is just, oh, whatever, dude. | ||
| That'd be cool though. | ||
| I like all three of those guys. | ||
| It wouldn't be cool at all. | ||
| You got Andrew Wilson's the shit. | ||
| You got Rob Miller's awesome. | ||
| We're talking about the next culture war and maybe the Krasensteins would... | ||
| That would be very cool. | ||
| Those guys are great, too. | ||
| I mean, of the liberals, they're the most willing to engage. | ||
| We went out to dinner. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| He goes back and forth with the Ministry of Truth every once in a while. | ||
| That's always a fun time. | ||
| Who does? | ||
| One of the Krasensteins always do. | ||
| They'll look back and forth. | ||
| Oh, nice. | ||
| Yeah, they're kind of meta-gaming, playing the game. | ||
| Of reality. | ||
| Like, they're real smart dudes. | ||
| and they were known for being Trump reply guys, but they're the kind of guys like you'll have an intense debate and then go out to dinner afterwards and talk about it. | ||
| Yeah, they know how to make money and how to generate activity. | ||
| You know, this is why people were asking me with the Bill Maher thing why I wasn't going off like I did with Adam Conover. | ||
| And I'm like, because Bill was nice to me? | ||
| Adam Conover was being snooty and got agitated with me and then started acting like I was doing something wrong. | ||
| And then for 40 minutes, Adam Conover asked me the same question over and over. | ||
| I kept saying, okay, dude, you've asked me the question about Ramesa Ozturk. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| And he kept going. | ||
| And so then it got heated because you get what you give. | ||
| But with Bill, he started by cracking open booze, asking me if I wanted any booze or drinks or whatever. | ||
| They were very nice to me. | ||
| Bill would get heated more than I was and then intentionally try and tone things down, and I respect that. | ||
| The one thing I want to add, too, is people, even we had this criticism. | ||
| Charlie Kirk was on Club Random, and there was some issue that came up, and I said, why wasn't Charlie Kirk pushing back? | ||
| Now I know why. | ||
| Because you go into the room and you sit down, and Bill walks in right away, and he just starts asking questions about yourself because he never met you before. | ||
| It is not a welcome to the political debate. | ||
| It literally is him. | ||
| If you watch it, he's like, where are you from? | ||
| What do you do? | ||
| And so it's not that kind of environment where it's so easy to just be like, hold on, I'm now going to change the subject, stop our conversation, and bring up a point I want to bring up. | ||
| You're just having a conversation with a guy you just met. | ||
| So as much as professionally I've criticized Bill, it was funny. | ||
| I told him that. | ||
| I said, I think one of our most viewed clips is us talking about you critically. | ||
| And he laughed and said, you're allowed to be wrong. | ||
| That was a good response. | ||
| He also appreciates that from others. | ||
| He appreciates that about Trump. | ||
| He gave a whole riot act of stuff against Trump, and Trump's like, well, it is what it is. | ||
| It's funny. | ||
| Well, I mean, that's very typical of people that would consider themselves not. | ||
| The woke, right? | ||
| Even though, you know, people can say what they want about Bill, he doesn't really consider himself woke. | ||
| He definitely goes after the, you know, more crazy aspects of the left and he calls him out for doing damage to the Democrat Party and brand. | ||
| That was another big, big component about it is that he was bragging on wokeness quite a bit. | ||
| It was a great conversation. | ||
| I feel like, you know, the first thing I told him was that I used to watch Bill Maher all the time. | ||
| Me, my boy Brandon, hanging out at Roger's house every Friday. | ||
| They're smoking pot and blowing it in their iguana's face watching Real Time with Bill Maher. | ||
| And I feel like if Bill was getting his news direct from the source, he'd be in complete agreement with us. | ||
| The only thing is he believes all of this cable TV news stuff about Trump. | ||
| When it comes to the woke stuff, he completely agrees. | ||
| And I even pointed out the reason why I don't believe that woke means critical race theory or critical theory. | ||
| Two big reasons, military-industrial complex and Islam. | ||
| It makes literally no sense to claim that Islam is an oppressed group of people when it's the second largest religion in the world and one of the most militaristic and dominant in a large portion of the planet. | ||
| To then claim they're oppressed makes no sense. | ||
| Then you have the military-industrial complex where they say it's bad but support the wars. | ||
| So that wokeness just is the cult of the left. | ||
| But he largely agreed when I pointed out. | ||
| Like, they're not oppressed. | ||
| It doesn't fit their narrative. | ||
| Bill has been tied into the pulse of reality at least for 25 years. | ||
| I remember Politically Incorrect was his show right after 9-11. | ||
| I mean, this is like two days after 9-11. | ||
| Bill goes on this nationally syndicated show and tells everyone, okay. | ||
| Just hold on a second, everyone. | ||
| Try and maybe see things from their perspective for a minute. | ||
| These people that attacked the United States. | ||
| We haven't been treating them very good. | ||
| And without any time, any days to explain what he was talking about, his show got canceled. | ||
| I mean, Big Brother was on him. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| 1993. | ||
| That's when his show started. | ||
| And he was like a voice of reason, of moral reasoning in 2001 after the bloodlust and fervor took over the nation. | ||
| This obsession with conquering the Middle East. | ||
| And Bill just stood up to it, and they canceled his show. | ||
| Then he went kind of underground, and he was a little more like, well, I'm going to win this game. | ||
| Yeah, I just want to tell people, like, yo, people are old. | ||
| 1993, that would make me, what, seven years old? | ||
| Six, seven years old? | ||
| Bill Maher was, what would that make him, 37? | ||
| I put him in a group with, like, Abby Martin and Luke Rutkowski. | ||
| They were like people in 2003 that were speaking out against the war machine. | ||
| And Bill Maher was one of those people. | ||
| Well, Luke was like a teenager, but... | ||
| Let's grab the super chat. | ||
| We got glazed donut. | ||
| Society is collapsing. | ||
| Two weekends ago, 300 TikTok teens brawled at Menlo Park Mall in New Jersey. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| Last weekend, another 300 teens shut down the Woodbridge Carnival and then took over the Woodbridge Mall. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| That's why I got out of the cities. | ||
| I was watching an escalation of the shit. | ||
| People were planting bombs in New York. | ||
| A bomb went off on 25th Street, and I was like, why? | ||
| Nobody knows. | ||
| Has anybody ever talked about the 25th Street bombing in Manhattan? | ||
| Can I pull this up? | ||
| Yo. | ||
| I mean, we've entered a point where, again, the classic criticism of kind of the Gen Z group, and I don't mean this as a criticism, this is actually a praise in a lot of ways as well, but the only thing that is sacred is nothing is sacred, and you're starting to reach a point where as the Gen Z becomes more polarized, you're starting to see groups of people just get out there and basically do anything to feel. | ||
| It's a very weird time because once everything's done, You can just get out there and do whatever. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| 23rd Street bombing. | ||
| Sorry, it was 23rd Street. | ||
| 23rd Street, a bomb went off, injuring 29 people. | ||
| A second bomb was found on 27th, and then they found another explosive. | ||
| It was a bag with weird explosive bottles in it. | ||
| It was a fuel source or something in Jersey City. | ||
| And I'm just like, what is going on? | ||
| The smell. | ||
| I was just in Miami for a few weeks, and I tell you, God, the smell. | ||
| You can't escape the brake dust. | ||
| And there's the smog and congestion. | ||
| Then I come out here and it's like the fresh, sweet air. | ||
| I can smell the lavender. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| Dude, my team's always trying to convince me to move into Washington, D.C., where I can't carry openly. | ||
| And I despise it. | ||
| I love Indiana. | ||
| God bless the most underrated state in the union. | ||
| And I could not be convinced to move to a city, much less DC. | ||
| Are you in a summer? | ||
| Orb was spotted at Manchester. | ||
| Oh, let's talk about the orbs. | ||
| The orbs are causing the explosions. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Come full circle. | ||
| Do you live in a semi? | ||
| Rural area? | ||
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| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's kind of the same place I grew up. | ||
| But yeah, a little bit of a smaller town backed up against some rural, and I love it, man. | ||
| Did you ever live in a big city? | ||
| I've spent an extended amount of time in some big cities, and I've really just despised every ounce of it I've gotten. | ||
| We've got to grab more superchance. | ||
| We've got Not Your Average Dan says, Tim, quote, I'm starting to get the itch, unquote. | ||
| They have medication for that. | ||
| Indeed. | ||
| Yeah, I'll never be involved in politics. | ||
| My point is, what makes me want to be, I would love to be a lunatic in government. | ||
| Like, I know that Cash and Dan get in there and they're like, okay, we gotta do this right. | ||
| I'd just go in and start flipping things over. | ||
| Like, I'd just hand, I'd be like, here's the entire contents of all of our documents to Congress. | ||
| Have fun! | ||
| And they'd be like, but that's going to undermine a lot of ongoing criminal cases. | ||
| Don't care. | ||
| You wouldn't want to go piece by piece and be like, well, this one would upset the Qatari nationals. | ||
| We've got to put this one for level five. | ||
| Give it to Congress your responsibility. | ||
| Here, Congress, here's everything we've got. | ||
| Don't care. | ||
| I think they're doing a lot of that curation. | ||
| I think Dan and Cash are taking a lot of the Crossfire Hurricane stuff and things that they think is corrupt and giving it, but they're not giving everything because they're still trying to maintain the integrity. | ||
| What little air is of the FBI. | ||
| My attitude is like, I'd love to just get in there and be like, here's a USB drive. | ||
| It'll give you unfettered, absolute access to all our documents. | ||
| Have fun. | ||
| Everyone here, have unlimited energy, everyone. | ||
| Free access to electricity. | ||
| I don't know if that exists, but... | ||
| Yep. | ||
| I mean, it's inevitable. | ||
| It'll destroy civilization, but you know. | ||
| And it'll have to rebuild itself. | ||
| What do you mean it's inevitable? | ||
| Free energy? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's inevitable? | ||
| It's not inevitable because it's not possible. | ||
| It's literally sitting here listening. | ||
| Like the sun. | ||
| Okay, hold on. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, exactly. | ||
| Functional. | ||
| For fun, for instance. | ||
| Well... | ||
| No. | ||
| Free. | ||
| It's going to go out one day, but... | ||
| Yeah, but for a human lifespan, it's infinite energy. | ||
| The point is controlling the energy is the point we're making, not just having the sun blasts in the face. | ||
| So the issue is... | ||
| That is the ultimate goal, largely with fusion. | ||
| The input is so minimal, the output is massive, and that's what we're hoping happens. | ||
| Maybe it's not inevitable. | ||
| The problem with that is just that as you start to increase some things, you increase others, namely gravity. | ||
| And you start to create some really high temperature to a point that you just can't contain it, and then high gravity so that things start getting real screwy real quick. | ||
| So, again, I think that nuclear fuel is, in fact, a great way to go. | ||
| But if we ever start brushing up against fission, I think that has to be something constructed in space. | ||
| Fusion? | ||
| Fusion. | ||
| Fission now, fusion later. | ||
| Yeah, you can do saltwater. | ||
| Yes, that's what I mean. | ||
| Fission's great. | ||
| Fission, we can do now. | ||
| Fusion later in space. | ||
| That's what we're going to take to construct it. | ||
| We have ignition already for fusion, according to modern reports. | ||
| JPL, yeah. | ||
| But it's containing it once it gets going. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's the problem, because you have it at significantly high temperature and then the mass. | ||
| If we assume the reports are correct, we've contained fusion ignition. | ||
| We can't capture the energy. | ||
| That's the problem. | ||
| So, like, when we burn wood and fire comes out, the question then becomes, that energy that's being released, how do we capture it? | ||
| And so what do we do? | ||
| Steam engines. | ||
| So you create fire. | ||
| All power is just boiling water. | ||
| It is. | ||
| But in the early days, a steam engine, you'd boil a vat of water, creating pressure, which would push out of a controlled space, creating the piston to rotate the wheels. | ||
| Then we figured out how to create rotating magnets to generate electrical currents, and so we used steam pressure to spin things. | ||
| The question for fusion is, we've reached ignition. | ||
| How do we capture that energy? | ||
| Basically, the fire is before us. | ||
| How do we turn that fire into energy that we can run through our system? | ||
| I picture, because you can make saltwater suns. | ||
| Basically, this guy John Kansas was looking for a cure to cancer, and he was running radio frequency through saltwater. | ||
| He found this frequency that lit the saltwater on fire. | ||
| And you can look on YouTube, John Kansas, K-A-N-S-U-S. | ||
| Oh, God, what frequency was it? | ||
| It's up there. | ||
| And so he has a test tube and fire coming off. | ||
| But it was coming off the surface. | ||
| It looks like the sun, like the fire coming off the sun. | ||
| So I imagine the sun is like this saltwater fluidic ball that's getting hit by a frequency and it's lighting up. | ||
| So if we take saltwater out into orbit, let it coagulate into a sphere like water does in deep space, and then hit it with a frequency and light it up, we might be able to fuse chemicals in that. | ||
| All right, let's read more. | ||
| We got Not Your Average Dan saying, Ian, quote, I love Amazon balls. | ||
| They have medication for that. | ||
| What's the medication? | ||
| More Amazon balls. | ||
| Hold My Beer says, have you seen that the Texas governor swore the death penalty on two illegal immigrants who killed an Air Force cadet in a hit-and-run with a jet ski? | ||
| I saw the story of this young lady that was killed. | ||
| They captured the people, right? | ||
| From the hit-and-run? | ||
| The news about Abbott and whether or not these individuals have been captured, things like that, that's news to me. | ||
| I haven't heard that update. | ||
| Yeah, I think they got arrested. | ||
| Good. | ||
| Two suspects arrested. | ||
| Yep. | ||
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| Two arrested if your jet ski hit and run death of a Texas teenager. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Rue Actual says, mark my words, Cash and Bongino are still DNC cucks. | ||
| There will never be a single arrest made. | ||
| Well, I don't agree with that. | ||
| Those guys are legit. | ||
| Yeah, that's a bad statement, because I would argue that your worst case scenario is they arrest low-level staffers as scapegoats. | ||
| My outtake on this one is that the left, which always moves way too far and way too fast, has in fact played with fire that is finally going to get it burnt. | ||
| And that fire is, they have successfully pissed off the moderates. | ||
| Now, before you get out your full wine bottles to throw at me, here's a very small example. | ||
| You have all these low-level judges, we'll talk about a judicial example here, who have come forward and thrown injunction after injunction after injunction. | ||
| Of all of the Supreme Court justices who are already fed up with this, believe it or not, it's Roberts. | ||
| Roberts, the squish of squishes, is tired of injunction after injunction, and it's balkanizing the moderates against the left, which is a wild thing to watch in real time. | ||
| So I do think the left is going to push and push and push until arrests get made because they can't help themselves. | ||
| They can't just let this naturally die out. | ||
| For the first time, I've been using dating apps, and I saw someone on dating apps like, I don't want any MAGA people. | ||
| Also, no Biden-Harris freaks. | ||
| It was the first time I've seen both. | ||
| Usually it was a polarization of one, I don't want that kind. | ||
| How old was the person? | ||
| Also, was the person Arabic? | ||
| Was the name hailing from Middle Eastern lands? | ||
| I don't know, but I noticed that they didn't want either side for the first time ever. | ||
| Like, the left has given up on the... | ||
| We hate Kamala. | ||
| We hate Trump. | ||
| We hate everybody. | ||
| My mom brings me pizza rolls to the basement. | ||
| You know, the normal stuff. | ||
| They're likely communists. | ||
| If they hate Trump and Biden-Harris, they're likely communists. | ||
| The? | ||
| Socialists. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Some strength. | ||
| I don't know why he'd do it here. | ||
| Great debate. | ||
| But Ben's not going to do that, and it's largely due to, I would argue, like, the scale of personality. | ||
| Ben Shapiro, being one of the biggest conservative personalities, one of the most viewed podcasts, is going to be like, I'd rather just debate a higher-profile individual. | ||
| Yeah, there's people further up the chain that have this debate. | ||
| Scott's like the most knowledgeable man on the planet. | ||
| He sounds like... | ||
| And people make this criticism of Ben before. | ||
| There's a difference between sounding like the most knowledgeable person and actually bringing things that aren't disproven 14 hours later. | ||
| Scott Horton? | ||
| Anybody. | ||
| Anybody that starts throwing things out that it's like, oh yeah, we found out actually we're backtracking 800 feet because we were wrong in this initial report. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| It's easy to... | ||
| I would just counter with, considering how war with Iran could happen any day now, I would counter with... | ||
| So I should have a Ukraine-Russia debate with Ben Shapiro and Scott Horton. | ||
| So what? | ||
| The Ukrainians and NATO tried to assassinate Putin, blow up his helicopter with a bunch of drones, and then Trump blames Putin for being crazy? | ||
| Does he not know that NATO just made an assassin attempt? | ||
| This is what Alex Jones was talking about, too. | ||
| I don't know if Trump knows because now's not the time to go. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| Well, I mean, look, you're not going to get Like, if the United States walks away from the negotiations, we're not going to give money and more weapons to Ukraine. | ||
| And that means that Putin gets to do whatever he wants. | ||
| So as long as Putin doesn't want to come to the table, there's nothing we can do about it. | ||
| Like, the United States is in a real bind if Trump can't get Putin to the table. | ||
| And there's no reason for Putin to go to the table because he's winning. | ||
| And all they want is they want the U.S. to stop supporting Ukraine. | ||
| I've been watching Hitler take Poland. | ||
| Not watching, but studying it last night, just watching about the Third Reich. | ||
| And, like, if Putin wants the Donbass, that's one thing. | ||
| If he keeps going, he's going to literally start a global war. | ||
| Yeah, that's my thing. | ||
| That's my thing with the Iran comment as well. | ||
| We're going to be at war with Iran, and I'm like, okay, what is Iran going to do? | ||
| The same thing they just did with Israel? | ||
| What, are they going to launch more ballistic missiles? | ||
| I'm looking for the Iranian army being mustered. | ||
| Just because, even if the United States decided to endorse an Israeli strike and support an Israeli strike against Iran, that does not mean that that's going to turn into a boots-on-the-ground situation. | ||
| The U.S. killed Soleimani in Iran. | ||
| The Israelis were shooting missiles at Iran. | ||
| Iran was shooting missiles at the Israelis. | ||
| None of that means that there's going to be a boots-on-the-ground United States. | ||
| People realize you actually have to order the boots to be on the ground, right? | ||
| Like the war doesn't start and then just like It's like, oh, what? | ||
| It's evolving! | ||
| Boots on the ground! | ||
| I think that the president is aware, and J.D. Vance is definitely aware, the American people do not want to see another military engagement where there's Americans dying in a Middle Eastern country. | ||
| We are going to go to that uncensored call-in show over at rumble.com slash timcast.irl. | ||
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| So Rubio is going to kick out all the Chinese people. | ||
| He says, if you're China, you got to go. | ||
| And it's a crazy story because Elad Eliyahu, our White House correspondent, actually asked Carolyn Levitt if this was the plan for the United States to revoke the visas of Chinese nationals who are going to school. | ||
| And sure enough, here we go. | ||
| Rubio says it's going to happen. | ||
| He says that they will aggressively revoke visas for Chinese students. | ||
| Good. | ||
| Crazy shit. | ||
| It's good. | ||
| I think that, I mean, in my opinion, it's good just because it kind of undoes a little bit of the argument that people were making about, oh, this is only about Israel, this is only about Israel. | ||
| And I think that, like, I endorsed or I supported the deportation of people that were, you know, anti-American, that were also being critical of Israel. | ||
| I supported the deporting those, or not deporting, but pulling the visas of those people because they're anti-American. | ||
| And if we can get rid of Chinese people that are likely engaged in espionage or whatever, that's right in the same ballpark. | ||
| I'm all for it. | ||
| Get him out. | ||
| Well then, all of our problems have been solved. | ||
| And politics is officially over. | ||
| It's done. | ||
| Rubio delivers like dominoes, man. | ||
| Rubio's awesome. | ||
| He's doing a phenomenal job. | ||
| Well, he's doing four phenomenal jobs or something like that, I think. | ||
| He also isn't menacing. | ||
| He leans forward and he kind of takes on a little bit more of that accent. | ||
| He's like, no, listen to me. | ||
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| All of the footage I've seen of him in front of Congress and in front of Senate committees and stuff, he's been... | ||
| He's been taking it to them. | ||
| He's probably been taking it for so long as a senator and just having to take it. | ||
| Great point. | ||
| And now he's on the other end. | ||
| I can't wait until you're no longer the colleague. | ||
| I don't have to call you Matt, Honorable Madam, whatever, and I can just call you the fool we all know you are. | ||
| Yeah, Rubio Unleashed is a nice sight. | ||
| And he speaks Spanish, so he's a great... | ||
| Where do we go from here? | ||
| From here? | ||
| Up. | ||
| I mean, like, Trump administration-wise. | ||
| Well, AI is coming, so things are going to change big. | ||
| We need to open or invest in electrical production. | ||
| Yeah, I agree. | ||
| Because without significant increases in our electrical production, we're going to lose the AI race with China. | ||
| All there is to it. | ||
| And the Russians, after World War I, they went full industry. | ||
| That's the only way they were able to defend against the Nazis. | ||
| And I keep thinking about an invasion. | ||
| Well, I keep thinking about a Chinese invasion and how... | ||
| They did it with gliders. | ||
| No one knew they were coming. | ||
| people were asleep and they might have been one of the beaches when the allies were No, it was Finland. | ||
| And the way that that drone just floated over the United States, that Chinese drone, and just ominously, silently floated over... | ||
| to get invaded and not know what's happening until they're already on top of you is like, I just don't want that, man. | ||
| I want a strong... | ||
| I sound like Joe Biden. | ||
| I digress. | ||
| I mean, well, you know, the... | ||
| I don't know, has anyone... | ||
| Oh, absolutely. | ||
| Pete Egg Seth is a national treasure. | ||
| That's a great, great recruiting video. | ||
| And the commercial. | ||
| Have you seen it, Ian? | ||
| Negative. | ||
| It's really, really, really good. | ||
| It's compelling. | ||
| And one of the things that Trump says in it is peace through strength, which he wants to see the United States military be so overpowered that no one on Earth would consider actually engaging in combat with us. | ||
| Gemini says I can't make videos until 1036. | ||
| You're in timeout. | ||
| I'm in timeout. | ||
| Gemini timeout. | ||
| I'm going to have to get another account. | ||
| Another Gemini account. | ||
| I agree with you, Phil. | ||
| Electricity generation. | ||
| I wonder how creative the Trump administration wants to get with, like, you're talking fusion we were talking about earlier, the advancements in solar tech, piezoelectricity. | ||
| Those are all experimental. | ||
| We don't have time for experimental because China is blowing our doors off when it comes to not just electricity generation now, but infrastructure for. | ||
| Electricity generation. | ||
| The Three Gorges Dam is massive, and it produces a boatload of power. | ||
| They're about to embark on building another dam that's going to produce enough energy that would sustain the country of Germany. | ||
| One dam. | ||
| It's that massive of a project. | ||
| They're also doing nuclear, and I believe they're using solar. | ||
| How much energy AI and computers are going to be using in the future? | ||
| I hear they're mining the dark side of the moon for heavy hydrogen, for heavy water, which used in tabletop fusion, deuterium. | ||
| Deuterium oxide, I think, is what you would call heavy water. | ||
| Might be tritium, which is like... | ||
| We don't have to do things that are exotic to produce the energy. | ||
| We just have to build nuclear reactors. | ||
| I understand that there's all kinds of people that are like, oh, there is new technology and we can blah, blah, blah. | ||
| That's all great and fine, but that's all going to take time to be refined to the point where it's really functional. | ||
| The modern nuclear reactors, not experimental, but modern nuclear reactors, we could build them and they would generate enough power and it's clean. | ||
| We could do that now. | ||
| Yeah, thorium. | ||
| I think thorium reactors are built for that. | ||
| I don't think thorium reactors are a proven technology yet. | ||
| I'm talking about old. | ||
| I'm talking about not old, but just what France does now. | ||
| Because France is all nuclear. | ||
| But the point is... | ||
| You hear Freeberg, you hear Chamath, and Sax is talking about it all the time as well. | ||
| The important thing that the administration really needs to do, like the top, one of the top most important things they need to do is they need to... | ||
| And the whole, like, if you lose the AI race, you lose everything? | ||
| That's not just, like, hyperbole. | ||
| That's real. | ||
| Like that's actually true. | ||
| If you, if your rivals or your international, uh, And if somebody gets to the sophisticated AI first and they do it wrong, the game's over for every human. | ||
| That's a big problem with AI, too, is if it takes over. | ||
| All right, well, how do we help the Trump administration do that? | ||
| I mean, I have no idea. | ||
| I know there are people that are working on it, people that talk, that are aware of it. | ||
| People, like I said, the guys in the All In podcast, they all have the ability to get messages to Trump because David Sachs is the AI guru for Trump, and he also does crypto stuff. | ||
| I'm confident that the administration is aware of this, but I don't know if the Department of Energy has been directed to begin to solve this. | ||
| I don't know what the... | ||
| Secretary Wright is the name. | ||
| I'm not too familiar with the Secretary of the Department of Energy at the moment. | ||
| Lee Zeldin. | ||
| Lee Zeldin? | ||
| No, Lee Zeldin's EPA. | ||
| Oh, the EPA. | ||
| Yeah, I was thinking of the EPA because they would probably need to clear any kind of new buildings. | ||
| have this right is the department of energy i wonder if he'd be a Lisa, if you're watching, we should get Chris Wright on the show because we could go deep on power. | ||
| You know, some of it you can't talk about publicly, but it would still be great. | ||
| Don't get me wrong. | ||
| I think energy expansion is important. | ||
| I don't think that's really the immediate next step for the Trump administration. | ||
| I think that it is essentially the political move. | ||
| It is a reality that Republicans have to take a 60-majority Senate in 2026. | ||
| Otherwise, none of this, all of the codifying stuff, all of the doge cuts that can't be passed through reconciliation, that is what matters. | ||
| Is it even possible? | ||
| Yeah, it's possible. | ||
| In this election, 100%. | ||
| I don't know what the map looks like. | ||
| It is possible for Republicans to achieve a 60-vote majority in this next election. |
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