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phil labonte
Today, Donald Trump was hosting South Africa's President Ramaphosa, and he essentially, was it?
Ramaphosa, my bad, Ramaphosa.
And CNN is accusing Trump of spreading debunked conspiracy theories during his Oval Office visit.
So we'll talk about that.
We have a bunch of people talking about that, actually.
There's all kinds of...
There's all kinds of people that were all up in arms.
A federal judge blocks the Trump administration from removing criminal illegal immigrants to third-party nations in South Sudan.
So we'll discuss that.
We talked a little bit about people that don't have their countries of origin, don't want them back, and what the administration is supposed to do with them.
So we'll discuss that a little bit further.
We have a Venezuela man that was arrested after posing as a teen to enroll in Ohio High School.
He's an illegal immigrant and he was charged with forgery after enrolling in Perry High School as a 16-year-old.
The guy's like in his 20s or something like that.
So we'll discuss that.
More Democrat nonsense as a Tennessee Democrat state rep was bragging about interfering in ICE operations.
She made a video of it.
She put it on the internet.
Look, if you're going to break the law...
Don't make videos of it and put it on the internet.
But actually, in this particular case, I personally don't mind that she did because it's hilarious.
We have some information from Tim Bucharet about the Kennedy assassination.
Apparently, he was in a hearing and he has some new information that some people may or may not have heard.
It's alleged to confirm some theories that have been...
Gone around for a long time about this, but we'll get into that.
And then we'll also be talking about Gen Z and the millennial men in the U.S. are among the loneliest in the Western world and why.
Of course, the specific article that we have brought up and the study that was done, they're blaming things that...
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Tonight joining us to talk about this and so much more is AK Kamara.
ak kamara
Kamara.
phil labonte
My bad.
Who are you and what do you do?
ak kamara
My name is A.K. Kamara.
I am actually the Republican National Committee man from the state of Minnesota, a member of the vaunted 168.
I make content online and all around.
I just want to try and help stop this bleeding of liberalism coming out of the state of Minnesota.
So I'm trying to do my part.
phil labonte
Awesome.
Thanks for joining us.
We've got Raymond G. Stanley here.
raymond g stanley-jr
Hey, what's up, guys?
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
I am the resident blue-collar Timcast.
I like to think of myself as a common sense revolutionary.
I planted some trees yesterday, and you know what they say?
A great man plant trees for the shade they will never know.
What's up, Brett?
brett dasovic
Oh, yes.
And as a fellow Minnesotan whose last name gets continually pronounced wrong...
phil labonte
Sovich, right?
It's Sovich, isn't it?
brett dasovic
My name is Brett Dasvich.
raymond g stanley-jr
Let's go.
phil labonte
All right.
I'm just playing.
We all know Brett.
brett dasovic
We'll go with Sovich.
phil labonte
That's fine.
So Post Millennial is reporting.
CNN accuses Trump of spreading debunked conspiracy theories during Oval Office confrontation with South Africa's president.
CNN criticized President Donald Trump's meeting with South African President Cyril Ramaphosa, calling the interaction an ambush after President Trump presented evidence of the persecution and killing of white South Africans.
The meeting held on Wednesday at the White House drew attention when Trump showed Ramaphosa a video containing a violent political chants and statements by officials against Afrikaners, as well as footage of burial sites of white farmers.
Responding to a reporter's questions about the alleged genocide of whites in South Africa, Trump said, We have thousands of stories talking about it.
We have documentaries.
We have news stories.
Before playing video clips that included chants of kill the boar and statements such as, Killing is part of a revolution.
Trump also cited reports of burial sites with over a thousand white farmers and South Africans fleeing violence.
So, this is something that a lot of people that spend, you know, any...
Significant amount of time on X, political X, you'll see this kind of stuff fairly regularly.
There's talk of the term genocide, I think, is loaded nowadays, and I personally wouldn't call this a genocide.
I do think it's political persecution, but I don't know what you guys think.
Do you guys have a take on whether or not it's genocide?
ak kamara
I think you're right that when you use the term genocide, we have a historically accurate...
But ever since, obviously, Israel and Palestine, anyone that is anti-Israel, they're always saying that it's genocide, genocide.
And it's like, well, is it really?
And now, in this case, I think you're kind of having the counter to that.
Now, I know completely different situations, but there is an actual term.
I think definitions do matter.
And having people that are persecuted or hunted because of their ethnicity...
Does fall in that term of genocide.
So, you know, whether or not you say, oh, you know, how many hundreds of thousands or millions of people have died in South Africa?
It's not a genocide.
I think that that's actually not what's at the heart of the issue.
It's are people specifically being targeted with policies from a government that allows someone to be killed for no other reason other than the fact that they are this ethnicity or this group.
I think that's what is happening in South Africa.
Whether you're looking at the Uyghur Muslims, and there's so many other groups that actually have been targeted by the government.
That's why I honestly don't think that calling what's happening in Gaza a genocide is the same, because they're not specifically just trying to go after people that are of Palestinian descent.
They're trying to go after Hamas, and it's terrible, and I don't like any innocent life that is lost.
But I do think that there's going to be this back and forth where the left is like, oh, so you can call this a genocide, but you won't call this a genocide?
And I just think, again, President Trump and what he did to the president of South Africa, Ramaphosa, he kind of had him stuck because he's like getting him to acknowledge.
Look at all the things that are happening.
And Trump, I think, was careful to say, like, I'm not going to say it's this term, but let's hear what people from South Africa have to say and kind of letting the story tell itself.
But I think, again, if you look at the actual term of genocide, it's targeted action going after specific groups that is supported by the government for no other reason other than they are the specific ethnic group.
phil labonte
Yeah.
I mean, Brett, you were talking earlier about the definition of genocide and whether or not this meets the standard.
You can't deny that it's political persecution.
You have people being removed from their land, expropriation of property, and historically those types of things lead to...
I mean, if they don't lead to genocide, they definitely have led to terrible, terrible oppression.
brett dasovic
Well, yeah, I think the most interesting part of it is that, you know, with American politics now kind of being a spectator sport, it becomes a bunch of people discussing whether the terminology fits the crime.
And a lot of times I find that that, in a lot of ways, ends up kind of...
Watering down the horror of it all in a lot of cases because it's a lot of us, whether it's even on here, in a way, when you're discussing it on a show like this or if you're talking about it on X, the people, at least what I saw from the clip from CNN, was them going after the terminology they're using.
But they're doing that as a way of obfuscating the discussion that's supposed to be had, which is about what's actually happening there.
And that's kind of a microcosm of how I see politics these days, which is everybody argues without actually knowing.
There's no shared terminology for anything anymore.
And you're talking past each other and very little gets accomplished because everybody's using their own language, their own ends.
And I find a lot of it to be very annoying.
ak kamara
Well, here's the thing.
It's nothing this parliament can do!
Both sides being so polarized, they're going to kind of stick to the thing that they think is going to help give them, you know, a place to stand politically to be able to make a move or an action.
And because we're becoming highly, like, we've had this whole racial identity or anything that's been kind of popping up again, kind of like a counter to Black Lives Matter, I think you're seeing a tendency of the right to want to glom onto things that are quote-unquote pro-white.
That's my perspective.
I'm not necessarily against calling out when bad things happen.
But as an American citizen, I genuinely say this, my heart goes out to people that suffer anywhere in the world.
But as an American citizen, why should I care about a genocide that's happening in South Africa or a genocide that's happening anywhere if it's not American interest?
And I'll be honest, I really don't from, again, a strategic United States perspective.
I don't really care that much.
raymond g stanley-jr
I agree with you about the pro-American part, but as a human being...
It kind of sucks to watch countries overseas.
Getting so many people killed as a human being, you know what I mean?
brett dasovic
That's because the internet is forced you to now have access to all that information all the time.
Human beings were not designed for that.
phil labonte
100%.
I was actually going to say something very similar.
We aren't designed, we haven't evolved to be able to process the amount of suffering that we have access to view nowadays.
If you lived in a village or in some kind of small tribe or whatever, A thousand years ago, you might see a terrible, you might see a war, you might see a slaughter in your tribe, but you most likely wouldn't see that kind of stuff happen, like, on a date.
You'd be plenty familiar with death.
I don't want people to misunderstand what I'm saying, because there was a lot more death.
Babies died, you know, in birth.
Women died in childbirth.
You'd be more familiar with death, but that kind of horror of, like, slaughter of people en masse, that kind of stuff, you didn't see.
See if you were a tribal person so much, unless you ran into another tribe or went into war.
And so the phenomena of like slaughtering people is in the way that we see it today, where it's constantly fed to you through, you know, through the internet or even through television.
Like that wasn't the norm.
I do think it's worth pointing out or listening to the way that CNN kind of...
Kind of framed the interaction, and I think we're going to go ahead and play the video that Donald Trump actually played for the South African president.
So, are you going to run it?
unidentified
His best diplomatic self to this meeting, but nothing could have prepared him for this multimedia ambush that President Trump laid out with video, with printed out news stories.
This was a laundry list of debunked conspiracy theories.
Some South Africans are telling me this is AfriForum propaganda.
AfriForum is a white Afrikaner lobby group that's considered a white nationalist organization by the Southern Poverty Law Center.
Everything, almost everything that President Trump said in the Oval Office is not true, was inaccurate, has been repeatedly debunked.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, look, there's a couple things that are worth pointing out.
First of all, there's the point that we started making, how this is always going to be framed as white supremacy, because that's what the left does.
The political organizations in South Africa that are calling for the death of the white farmers and calling to push out people that own property and stuff, they're all Marxists, and they're basing their...
Their politics are based largely on anti-colonial, you know, post-colonial theory and stuff like that.
We're going to go ahead and play the video or some of the video that Trump played in the Oval Office today so you can get a sense of what they were talking about.
unidentified
There's nothing this parliament can do with or without you.
People are going to occupy land.
We require no permission from you, from the president, from no one.
We don't care.
We can do whatever you want to do.
Who are you to tell us whether we can occupy land or not?
We are going to occupy land.
South African, occupy land.
That's who we are.
Do whatever you want to do.
You can withdraw my membership from this useless parliament.
Yes, honorable member.
must never be scared to kill.
A revolution demands that at some point there must be killing because the killing is part of a revolutionary.
phil labonte
Okay, so that right there is straight out of the, what's the, if it's Franz Fannin's book, The Wretched of the Earth.
So Franz Fannin wrote a book about decolonialism called The Wretched of the Earth, and one of the main tenets of decolonizing an area is you have to be violent.
Violence is part of revolution.
It's part of decolonizing.
And you don't get to have decolonization without the violence.
ak kamara
Yeah, revolution, nothing less.
That's the mantra that's constantly spouted by these Marxists.
So earlier, like I said...
In the United States, we can frame things of like, why does the left glom onto this?
Why does the right glom onto this?
And you can kind of see those.
But when you look at a bigger global picture, you're right.
All of these movements are founded in Marxism, communism, an idea of having a collective organization of people that need to have a violent revolution to overthrow the existing structure, all of it, whether it's economic or even just the way that a government is formed.
You have to have the revolution.
And you see it all throughout Africa.
My father's from Sierra Leone, West Africa.
We had a civil war in the 90s, right?
And if you actually strip it down and boil it down, guess what happens?
You had a movement of Marxists or people that were more communist aligned, and that's what you continually have happen all throughout Africa.
It's not an issue of whether it's colonialism or decolonialism.
It's about Marxism.
It's about communism.
And that's the reason why 80 years after...
Basically, the British Empire left and moved away from Africa.
You still have the issues that you have because they want to institute a system that is anti-human.
Communism is anti-human.
You cannot strip people's property and rights away and redistribute it willy-nilly.
People just don't stand for it.
And so you're seeing this, and that's really what's happening.
So when you go back to initially what that reporter guy was saying from Nairobi, he was saying, oh, President Trump is lying.
He's pushing all these conspiracies.
That's their framing from a Marxist perspective is you have to say reality and truth that you see it is a lie.
Don't believe your lying eyes.
And that's what this all comes back down to is that this is like just communism and Marxism in a different flavor.
phil labonte
Yeah, so I'm gonna go back to some other stuff that they were saying on the video Shoot to kill Yamasa Kill the poor, the farmer Kill the poor, the farmer Brr, pa, pa Brr, pa, pa Shoot to kill Yamasa Kill the poor, the farmer Kill the
unidentified
poor, the farmer The mayor of DA in PE is a white man.
So these people, when you want to hit them hard, go after a white man.
They feel a terrible pain because you have touched a white man.
Not because Mashaba and Soli will not be touched.
They will be touched.
Don Juan.
But we're starting with this whiteness.
We're cutting the throat of whiteness.
phil labonte
Yeah, so, I mean, the argument that this isn't about...
Racially motivated retribution.
I mean, I don't think that anyone can seriously make that argument.
ak kamara
Yeah, not in a sane world.
I mean, the way that the left always tries to frame it, right, is that racism can only flow one way.
If you're white, you're racist to other people, but if you're black...
Because of oppression or whatever, and especially in the case of South Africa, they say, well, because of apartheid.
We can't be racist.
We're just simply getting our get back.
And it's like, well, no, from a technical term, you are discriminating against people on the basis of their race.
You are being racist.
But yeah, it's what to me is the most fascinating.
It's dead giveaway.
He's wearing a red beret.
I mean, red beret, dead giveaway, man.
You're coming, bro.
brett dasovic
You should also be very weary of the way in which much of that language has already crept into Western Marxist.
whether it's decolonizing math or destroying or eliminating whiteness.
The worst part is, is there's a lot of useful idiots in colleges who take the, who don't get the full perspective from the people that are teaching these courses to them until they've been fully radicalized.
And then by the time they try to explain to you what that means, they can't really understand or explain to you what it means to decolonize math out of them to other than to tell you that it's, Too white, right?
But the problem is the language goes the whole way up.
It's top-down.
That language works at the top of that discussion.
It works all the way to the bottom when you're talking about something like whether your college classes have enough of one race or another.
phil labonte
Yeah.
brett dasovic
Look at what they've done to colleges that don't allow enough Asian students in because they test too high.
They don't care.
phil labonte
There are people that will make the argument that, oh, these are sophisticated ideas.
And part of the problem is when you present sophisticated ideas to unsophisticated people, you end up with things like, you know, more racism.
But actually the ideas are good.
It's just that they've been...
Given to people in a way that they don't fully understand the ideas.
And I think stuff like this kind of debunks that because at the end of the day, the bottom line of it is just take their stuff because they're a specific race.
Because of power dynamics, honestly.
I think the race is actually secondary to the...
When it comes to Marxism, race is secondary to it.
It happens to be in...
In South Africa, that the white people were the people in power and the black people have historically not been the people in power.
But I don't think that that's necessary in the overall situation.
But it is functionally that way, and I don't think that you can deny that.
ak kamara
Yeah, I mean, if you just think about it...
Leftism, communism is always reductionist.
So let's say that they were able to accomplish their great goal.
They were able to get rid of whiteness in South Africa and they had all the control and they kicked all the white people out or made them slaves or whatever their dream is, right?
They're just going to now focus on the next ethnic group that they feel has created an oppressor versus oppressed because that's the trueness of Marxism and communism is they will find a reason.
There are plenty of, again...
All throughout the globe, plenty of the same people that have killed other people that would be discernibly no different to me, but they would say, oh, well, this is this group?
Yeah, you know, they have all of the farming technology, so they're oppressing us.
Or this group over here, they're doing this.
I mean, you look all throughout human history, especially during Stalin, right?
Like starving out the people that...
I can't remember the ethnic group or whatever, but in Russia, like they started...
phil labonte
It wasn't ethnic, it was kulaks.
ak kamara
Yes, yes, the kulaks.
phil labonte
Before they decided that, before word had kind of got around and people realized that capitalism works.
ak kamara
Yeah, yeah.
And so exact, exact example.
That also happened in Cambodia.
So the whole race thing is a rouge.
The same with gender ideology.
It's all a ruse.
If you look, whatever they believe, and by they I'm talking about people that believe in this communist Marxist ideology, they will find their wedge.
If it's about the environment, they'll use the environment.
So none of those things actually matter in the grand scheme.
It's all about...
What can they use as a wedge to induce the revolution?
raymond g stanley-jr
I don't know why you guys don't believe what he's saying.
He said they debunked it.
What people say on the streets, debunked.
What you see in the videos, debunked.
Just like they say about masks, debunked.
brett dasovic
There's a lot of power to a lot of people about being told something by a guy in a suit.
ak kamara
Right.
brett dasovic
Like, that's very powerful.
ak kamara
He seems like he knows a lot of things with that suit there.
brett dasovic
He's got a nice suit on.
They've got some great computer graphics on there.
He seems like he knows what he's talking about.
phil labonte
That's unfortunate, but it's true.
Alright, so I think we should jump to this next...
This next story, from the Postmillennial, federal judge blocks Trump administration from removing criminal illegal immigrants to third-party nations, South Sudan.
Wow.
I think that's kind of hilarious, like the idea of just sending to South Sudan.
ak kamara
Let's go!
phil labonte
We'll get into it.
A federal judge has ordered the Trump administration to maintain custody of criminal illegal immigrants who were allegedly flown to South Sudan.
Judge Brian Murphy held an emergency hearing Tuesday and issued an order instructing the administration to maintain custody and control of class members currently being removed to South Sudan or to any other third country to ensure the practical feasibility of return if the court finds that such removals were unlawful.
At least a dozen migrants were reportedly deported to South Sudan this week, including illegal immigrants from Myanmar, Vietnam, and Mexico, despite a standing court order restricting removals to third countries.
Attorneys representing the migrants told the court that immigration authorities have sent people from various countries to Africa, potentially violating a prior ruling that guarantees migrants a meaningful opportunity to argue that deportation to a country other than their homeland would endanger their safety.
I'm all for sending people back to their countries of origin.
But if their countries of origin won't take them, we've talked about this, where are they supposed to go?
Personally, I think they should go to Gitmo.
ak kamara
Yeah, Gitmo's good.
phil labonte
Because technically it's U.S. territory.
There's an indefinite lease on that property.
And it's nice there.
It's warm.
They don't have to worry about keeping it cool or whatever.
brett dasovic
That's why Trump wanted Greenland.
Maybe he just wanted to ship them all.
ak kamara
Yeah, he wanted to ship them all that.
Well, here's the deal, right?
phil labonte
Greenland is harder than the Caribbean, though, because you have to heat it.
You don't have to keep the Caribbean cold.
ak kamara
So here's the deal.
When you think about what Trump is doing here, at least the way that I perceive it, is he's throwing out these flyers, these kites, right?
Saying, what can we actually do?
In this specific case, these...
People that were sent to South Sudan were all convicted of very heinous crimes in the United States.
And their reason was pretty simple.
They said, we have a history of these countries not wanting to take them back.
So if you can imagine, if someone was convicted of a Terrible, horrible, awful crime.
And they're like, we're going to send them back to you, buddy.
You're like, no, we're good.
We don't want them.
And so by using this, going around this federal district judge, which, by the way, I agree with what has been said on the show before.
I think it's unconstitutional that these district judges are putting these injunctions that are universal.
I think that that's garbage nonsense.
So I'm glad that the Trump administration is defying this federal judge and saying, all right, here's this test case.
These terrible, awful people...
South Sudan said they would take them.
It's way less expensive than sending them to Gitmo.
I like the idea of Gitmo, but it's expensive to operate Gitmo.
So I like this because it's like, all right, your move now.
Are you going to beg to have convicted rapists and murderers sent back to American soil?
I mean, we just saw the story of the 11 people breaking out of jail, right?
In Louisiana.
I mean, hey, would you want those people back on the streets?
They're not even American citizens.
I just love the idea of what Trump's doing here.
brett dasovic
I saw people were betting on the...
Order in which they're all being returned.
Like five of them have been caught.
phil labonte
Oh, you're talking about the...
brett dasovic
Yeah, the New Orleans.
raymond g stanley-jr
The New Orleans 11. South Sudan, basically, they...
Police spokesperson said if they're not South Sudan, they're going to be deported back to their country.
So we're going to send them there, who just had a huge famine back in 2023.
Millions displaced, and then they're going to send them back to where they came from.
phil labonte
I'm sending South Sudan.
I mean, I don't understand why with the point of that.
Why'd the administration send it to that country?
raymond g stanley-jr
Scare tactics, maybe?
phil labonte
I mean, maybe.
raymond g stanley-jr
You know, you're going to go to a place with no food?
phil labonte
Maybe.
ak kamara
I wouldn't be surprised if we found out that there was some type of agreement, some type of handshake, saying like, hey, we're going to send these resources over or you do this for us, which I'm all for.
I mean, again, this is the purview of the executive office.
And I think that's why I like what Trump and the admin is doing, is they're testing the bounds and limitations.
And I'm all for it, man.
At the end of the day...
People are here without permission, legally.
And actually, after they've committed heinous crimes on American soil, to argue that they should be able to stay here for some reason is absurd.
So I think that ultimately, this is going to have to go up to a higher court, Supreme Court.
But I think that the Trump administration's moves on this make perfect sense, and it's within their purview.
But the South Sudan thing, I think, is just to be...
brett dasovic
It's kind of like they're holding—it's in a weird way.
It's like they're able to hold the country hostage in a way.
So Mexico can hold the country hostage by having violent offenders who came here illegally then commit crimes here and then not take them back.
And then you don't have any recourse because you've made it a political issue in your own country and there's no good answer to any of that.
raymond g stanley-jr
Well, Yemen is one of the— Least safest countries in the world.
So we can just send them there.
Yemen?
Yes, that's what it says.
And 2024 ranked as the most unsafe country.
brett dasovic
Unsafe.
raymond g stanley-jr
Scare them, yes.
ak kamara
Unsafe.
Yeah, there's a lot of...
raymond g stanley-jr
We've got to send them somewhere.
ak kamara
We'll see rebels going on.
phil labonte
I don't think that's going to work out.
raymond g stanley-jr
Well, go home or go to Yemen.
What do you want?
phil labonte
The thing is that their countries of origin don't...
Don't want them.
raymond g stanley-jr
That's what I mean.
phil labonte
They're likely criminals and they don't care.
raymond g stanley-jr
Suck it up.
You're going to Yemen, bro.
phil labonte
I don't know that the Yemenis would allow us to land, so we'd have to launch them.
raymond g stanley-jr
We'll teach them how to fly.
We'll give them parachutes.
phil labonte
We shoot missiles at the Yemenis regularly, so I think that they might get...
Killed on the descent, you know?
raymond g stanley-jr
I just looked up the most dangerous one.
brett dasovic
Maybe what happens is the CIA starts taking really, really bad American criminals and sending them over the border to other countries, and they'll commit crimes there, and then we won't take them back when they try to send them back to us.
ak kamara
You think we're not?
brett dasovic
And then we'll say, see how you like it.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean...
Like I said, I've said this a bunch of times, I don't care where they go at all.
Get them out.
If you're a criminal, get them out.
I don't care where we send them at all, but I do think that the best option is Gitmo.
raymond g stanley-jr
We got like 30,000 there?
Sorry, I interrupted.
About 30,000?
How big is it?
phil labonte
I don't know what the capacity is.
I have no idea.
brett dasovic
This is also an issue to hold up any type of policymaking in America because of the kind of suicidal empathy of liberalism has now created an issue where the average person, and remember, like half this country doesn't vote anyways and doesn't pay super close attention to politics, and they look at something like this and they say, Trump is sending people to Sudan who aren't from Sudan, and it looks awful to people that don't understand what's going on.
So it is a way, in effect, to hold the country hostage by not allowing you to deport people who have proven themselves to be violent or a threat to the country.
phil labonte
Yeah.
I mean, look, society—the U.S. has the right to say, look, you— You are not just breaking our laws, but you are causing problems in our society.
You're violent.
You don't want to play by the rules.
You make it clear.
You look at the way that a lot of these immigrants, particularly the gang members, the way that they behave, the way that they flip off the camera when they get arrested, they swear that they're not going to be, you know, they're like, I'll be out and I'm going to blah, blah, blah.
They don't have any kind of desire for rehabilitation.
It's always just like, oh, when I get out, I'm going to do this and I'm going to do that.
You've got to do something with them, and like I said, I don't care where they go, but I think that, you know, forever in jail is perfectly fine.
Like, you can't let these people out if they're not, if they're, you know...
If they're swearing that they're going to continue to commit crimes and they're not going to do—they don't want to assimilate and they're going to keep doing this and that, you can't do anything with these people.
ak kamara
Yeah, and again, I think it's important for people to understand, though, that in this specific case, they're sending people that have already been convicted of heinous crimes in the United States.
And just from a functional standpoint, you send them back to their home country that doesn't want to take them, they're just going to release them, and then they're going to come back in the United States.
And then they're going to do the thing.
And again, long term, under this administration, they're not coming back to the United States very easily.
But there are people that still get through the border.
I know the numbers are way, way, way, way down, like 95% or whatever, but people still get over.
So it's like, why would we take someone that was...
Keep them on American soil and spend American dollars when we can just send them over somewhere else.
And that's, I think, what the administration's mindset is, is let's see how this can really play out that if there's an appetite by the American people, they say, yeah, we are supportive of this.
I think that we continue to do it more.
But if not, then we have to find other creative solutions.
raymond g stanley-jr
I got a great idea.
You know how they're crying about...
The immigrants not doing the strawberries or picking the farms, we can put them in jails, of course, but during the day they can pick the farms and get the strawberries.
ak kamara
We put chains on their legs and bring back the chain gangs?
unidentified
Yeah.
ak kamara
I don't know, man.
I just don't trust them.
raymond g stanley-jr
It's all two problems at once.
ak kamara
Yeah, I just don't trust them.
I'd rather just get them out of here and hopefully, again, get some capitulation by some of these other nations.
phil labonte
I don't think people that are...
I think that the people that get to go into those jobs, like those people generally are not...
ak kamara
Low flight risk and all that.
phil labonte
Yeah, they're low flight risk.
They're not likely...
brett dasovic
George Santos will go there.
phil labonte
George Santos should be free.
ak kamara
That's true.
phil labonte
He's way too funny.
The Republicans in Congress, by booting him, they made a terrible move.
They gave up a seat.
They should be ashamed of themselves.
They're all awful anyways.
I hate almost...
brett dasovic
But he did actually do what he was convicted of, right?
phil labonte
Democrats wouldn't.
ak kamara
He was a naughty boy.
brett dasovic
I mean, I'm bipartisan when it comes to scummy politicians.
I don't really care what happens to anybody.
phil labonte
No, I'm straight up whatever's going to make my side win now.
raymond g stanley-jr
We're at that point.
phil labonte
I don't care.
I don't care.
The left literally embraced communists.
They've embraced leftists that will destroy the country.
So whatever we need to do to make sure that they lose.
brett dasovic
Well, you better have gotten one of his cameos.
He had a cameo for a while.
You should have paid for it.
ak kamara
Happy birthday, Phil.
Cameo from George Sanderson.
raymond g stanley-jr
I don't need that.
brett dasovic
If he's still got one in jail, I'll actually, I'll buy that for you.
ak kamara
Hey, go check it out.
raymond g stanley-jr
Great for the show.
Good content.
phil labonte
That would be hilarious.
Someone should get it.
Someone in the viewing audience should get a video from George Santos.
brett dasovic
The day you have your kid, you're going to get a video from George Santos.
ak kamara
Oh, there you go.
phil labonte
Congratulations to the world, little baby.
unidentified
That might be terrible.
phil labonte
That might be terrible.
So what do you guys think?
Do we just send them off to South Sudan and hope that they take them or hope they can stay or what?
ak kamara
Yeah, I mean, I think, again...
There is some type of agreement.
I don't think we're just going in under cover of night and just randomly dropping them off somewhere.
If we were, I'd still actually be in favor of that.
But I think that there's some type of agreement of like, hey, we're going to bring these people over here.
And I imagine, because this is how it went with El Salvador.
It wasn't just like, oh, we'll take them for free.
There's something in the deal for them.
And one of the good things is that it helps strengthen our relationship with them.
I'm for it, man.
I say send more of them, especially, again, unequivocal people that have been convicted in the United States for horrendous crimes.
Send them all, man.
Get them out of here.
phil labonte
Yeah.
Alright, I think we're going to jump to this next story here.
Venezuelan man arrested after posing as a teen to enroll in Ohio High School.
Illegal immigrant Anthony Labrador Sierra charged with forgery after enrolling at Perrysburg High School as a 16-year-old student.
Now, I don't think this is the guy.
I think this is the guy.
ak kamara
It's that guy with the blonde hair, yeah.
phil labonte
I mean, maybe he could pass for 16, but he's got a lot of dirt on his lip for 16. Anyways, a 24-year-old illegal immigrant from Venezuela was arrested in Perrysburg, Ohio, after he allegedly enrolled in a public high school using fraudulent documents.
Court records show that 24-year-old Anthony Emanuel Labrador Sierra has been charged with forgery and is being held on $50,000 bond.
The Perrysburg Police Department said it was contacted by the Perrysburg local schools on Monday about possible fraudulent activity involving one of its students.
After a preliminary investigation, a fraud charge was established and handed over to the department's detectives for further investigation.
Detectives worked with U.S. Customs and Border Protection and U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement Labrador?
Yes, that's right.
It was a 24-year-old from Venezuela.
Investigators also learned Labrador Sierra used fraudulent documents to enroll in Perrysburg School and was posing as a 16-year-old student.
I mean, is that all they say about him, huh?
He's not...
ak kamara
You know how they say that when people come to this country and they don't know English, they'll watch American movies?
Maybe the only movie that worked was Billy Madison.
unidentified
He watched it over and over and over again.
ak kamara
He's like, this is how I'm going to do it.
I'm just going to go to high school.
brett dasovic
I was going to say this is Hollywood's fault.
This was Hollywood's fault for 30 years of movies where high schoolers are played by dudes in their late 20s and early 30s.
ak kamara
Here's what's even a little bit more horrifying.
It is kind of funny when you think about it.
How did no one know?
Hopefully he...
If he didn't have contact with any of the females that were children there, that would be horrifying.
But also, can I just point out, there's no way that that's his real name.
Labrador Sierra?
Like, that just sounds fake.
brett dasovic
He's just trying to, he's just got a dare, and he's just trying to see how long he can get away with it.
ak kamara
It's insane.
But yeah, I mean, listen.
This entire idea that he is posing as a kid, there's a lot more questions.
Of actually what's happening in our school system.
Because we've had teachers back in Minnesota, Minneapolis.
Minneapolis Public School Teachers Union came out and said, basically, we're going to hide criminal aliens from ICE and everything like that.
They're 100% saying that that's what they're going to do.
I wonder if they did the same here.
Were there certain teachers that knew and they were like, okay, we're just going to let him pose?
Because like...
If he's acting as a 16-year-old, who was acting as an adult?
Does he have more people that came in?
Because you can't just show up at 16 and be like, I'm registering for school.
I'm by myself.
I think there's going to be a couple of questions.
raymond g stanley-jr
He had a host family?
And basically his baby mama, Evelyn Camacho, contacted the Hulse family on March 14, 2025, saying like, yo, this guy's a 25-year-old and he's a father of my child.
There you go.
And then she gave documentation to the family and they're like, okay, this guy's nice.
ak kamara
He's not just a fraud, he's a deadbeat dad.
raymond g stanley-jr
That's a good one.
ak kamara
How did he get to the Hulse family?
serge du preez
This is what drives me crazy.
So this guy was able to claim, like in the article here, he says he claimed fake asylum.
Basically, because he's Venezuelan.
So he claims asylum from all the Communist Party.
All this stuff that's going on, they're saying, oh, it's super dangerous for me to live in Venezuela.
But the issue, you talked about this earlier, when you were talking about Americans, why should Americans care about this?
I understand that, but Americans generally care for freedom.
Like Raymond said, you don't want people to die and everything like that.
These are fake asylees.
He's not claiming asylum from anything.
We are claiming asylum from a genocide that maybe is not happening right now, but it's...
We're getting pretty close when you have all these stadium people talking about, oh, we must go kill the boy.
We must go make sure every one of them dies.
It's crazy that that's even, like, if you put that on YouTube, it's like, oh, it's bad.
You can't say that.
It's like, okay, well, then how are we supposed to say, like, yo, there are stadiums of people that want to kill all of us.
And they may not have reached critical mass yet for it to be genocide.
It's like, I agree with that.
Maybe that's not the thing, but it's like, I don't want to just let it happen.
I'm not just going to stand idly by why I, as an American, coming from that country, I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm just going to let all these people die.
That would be crazy if I were.
ak kamara
It 100% shows, though, that our asylum system is so broken.
And whenever someone just makes, again, a fake claim, I'm glad at least the article reported that.
Like, I mean, Fox News, they do okay from time to time.
But yeah, I mean, this is happening for so many people.
So like I said, when you start to dig deeper, you ask, well, who approached the host family?
Like, there has to be multiple people involved in this.
But it's, like you said to your point, though, is like there are actual...
If we as American people say we do have an asylum system, I think I'm...
I'm at this table saying, I think we should.
I like the idea that if there are people that truly are suffering because God has blessed this great nation with more, that there should be a process to be able to allow us to be able to vet those people.
But the way that the last administration, Biden, was using it, it's just insane.
It's just like mass, like, oh, all of you are asylee seekers.
It's just like, that's insane.
phil labonte
I mean, that's a big part of the problem is the fact that they've abused the system.
And I'm talking about the administration, not the...
people that have come here, the administration abused the system so much that the American people are just fed up with it.
I just saw a poll today, even after all of the, you know, Maryland man and all of the left using the media to do their best to try to make all of the people that the Trump administration has been deporting, who are almost all criminals now, they're starting with the criminals, they're almost all hardened criminals, bad people.
The left has been trying to cast them as innocent victims and normal people that are just getting...
You know, brutalized by the Trump administration, even after all that, 66% of the American population, two-thirds of the people say, we want deportations.
Not, we want, we want to, you know, they're aware that the influx has stopped.
They're aware that the border is actually under control.
And they still want deportations.
This is not a situation where the American people are just going to be like, no, you know what, it's fine.
I really hope that that shows at the polls when it comes time for the votes in 2028.
You need to make sure that if Congress does not do the things necessary to deport people, that people that are up for re-election lose their seats.
They should be primaried.
ak kamara
They should lose their seats.
phil labonte
Democrats should...
Definitely lose their seats to whoever the Republican is because the Democrats are in lockstep and doing everything they can to defend murderers and rapists.
brett dasovic
Also think about how deep the ideological rot goes for the teachers.
If you really think about it, you were talking earlier about the idea that teachers were shielding them from deportation or shielding them from ICE.
So you're taking somebody who you can't confirm any real facts about somebody Misrepresented themselves to you.
Put them around children and then want to protect them.
The kids should be your first and foremost, the thing that you care about the most, the thing that you protect the most.
Your children, the kids that you're in charge of taking care of while they're in your school, and they don't put them above somebody who has been misrepresented, is already a criminal because they're here illegally, and you're choosing them over the safety of the children in the school.
ak kamara
Yes, because...
I think the left has this huge blind spot and I always try and like delineate.
There's like the rank and file people that are like default Democrat left and then there's the people that are organizing that are part of the actual structure of the left.
Those that are organizing that are part of the structure, the majority of them understand that they have political goals and aims, and they know that they're not popular, so they always have to obscure and make things seem like they're not what they are.
Versus the average rank-and-file Democrat or person on the left, they just believe that, oh, someone comes to this country, it's because they want a better life.
Who are we to say that we shouldn't give them a better life?
And I think a lot of the teachers that are part of these teachers' unions that are happening all across America are the same thing.
They're like, why wouldn't we protect this family?
They're just here for a better life.
But they don't...
We don't recognize or even acknowledge that there are bad faith actors.
Evil exists.
There are people that are doing horrifying things.
And if we don't have a system that can even check that, you're actually not helping anything.
All you're doing is hurting the system.
serge du preez
Dude, if you look right here on the same article, you can see where it says the federal judge in San Francisco ordered the Department of Homeland Security to continue TPS status for Venezuela, even though it was said to not do it.
They disagreed with it numerous times.
It's like you said.
What are we supposed to do unless we start to...
At a certain point, for me, it's like, what are we going to do until we gut the system?
One of my friends who's like a lefty friend of mine in D.C. was like, I'm surprised.
He's recently just been having this hard Red Bull moment where he's like, well, I don't care who gets rid of the corruption and the nonsense.
It's like, someone has to do it.
If you believe in the government, you believe in the system at all, you're going to say, like, someone has to do it, you know?
So, yeah, I was going to call him a leftist.
He's, like, default them, but, you know, the same thing.
He's only realizing now that, like, oh, they lied to him about the shots.
Oh, they lied to him about all this stuff, and he's, like, realizing what...
He's having a Red Bull moment.
He's just having it happen, and he's kind of being forced by all this stuff, but...
brett dasovic
I feel like that's something that I come back to a lot on this show, because so much of what we talk about is so deep in the weeds with politics that it's obfuscated by the fact that, look, a large...
You call them default Democrat.
I call it more just default liberalism in this country, which is like, maybe they vote, maybe they don't, but they see that, and it goes back to what I said about suicidal empathy, which is that being raised in America, you are raised to understand that you live in the greatest country on Earth.
You are among the most economically and socially privileged people on the planet.
It doesn't matter what race you are.
You were born into one of the most amazing places you could ever be from.
The problem is that's been twisted by Marxists, by communists, to be a bad thing that they have to then go against their own self-interest to prove that they are as good as they need to be to fit in within what society believes to be acceptable for Americans to believe.
You are not allowed to put your own self-interest ahead of anything else in that belief system.
phil labonte
It's because you were born here.
brett dasovic
It's because you were born here.
Now, there's a difference.
Me and Philip talked endlessly about the idea that one of the things— And that kind of separates a lot of people who fall on conservative lines more than anything else, whereas people on the left who do fall into that category of suicidal empathy believe that there is one thing that can fix everything, And that's the head of their government.
And when it's not them in power, it's all about the revolution.
When they are in power, it's a weapon that is wielded against everyone else.
And the people who hold it up are those oftentimes.
And it's infuriating to see because you want to make them see it, but you can't.
They have to find their way to that answer on their own.
phil labonte
And most people won't be able to see it until it actually affects them or someone they know.
They'll feel like, oh, the government's just doing this because it's the right thing.
You know, the argument about, you know, free speech, like, there's the argument, oh, you have to be able to say whatever you want, etc., etc., and then when people are deported because they're saying things that are anti-American, they're, like, against America, it's like, well, he should have his free speech, etc., etc., and it's like, look, it's not a criminal penalty.
Being deported is not criminal penalty.
It's not like you're being prosecuted by the state.
The state can just say, oh, you don't get to stay.
So sewing that kind of unrest has actual, tangible, real world ramifications, and it tends to be to hurt the fabric of the country, the people that make up the country start to be.
And I think that maybe there are problems that we can't fix and maybe we do have to have some kind of significant change.
Maybe violence is acceptable and these ideas start creeping around.
ak kamara
I think that the left is susceptible to groupthink because they just have a tendency to want to believe in like this collective action thing, right?
And I think that's why people that end up sorting themselves into Democrat or liberal versus right or conservative is because they just have a tendency.
They're like, oh, I'm part of the collective group.
And the left, again, the folks that I would say are part of the actual structure of making policy, they understand that.
That's why they pound these narratives into your brain constantly over and over again talking.
Literally, we had our local newspaper, Minneapolis, the Star Tribune, they wrote an article about a Twin Cities man who's an Ecuadorian national who crashed while drinking and driving and killed an American citizen and ICE finally picked him up.
But that's what happens with the left is that those that are in power use this Desire and tendency of the left to be collective to lie and trick them.
And like you said already, it's until it's at their door that it has this very jarring cognitive dissonant moment where it's like, wait, wait, wait.
All these things that I've been told are not true.
And that's when you have like this great awakening.
And that's honestly what the mega movement is full of.
A bunch of people that used to be on the left and their values really haven't changed.
It's just they're open to seeing, oh, the things that I was being lied to just aren't true.
raymond g stanley-jr
Phil, before you move on to the crazy ladies.
White pill moment is that still, even though with all the Maryland man stories, the Twin City man stories, all the lies from the media trying to get compassion for these criminal people, still 66% of America are like, yeah, get them to F. Well, yeah, I mean, it was popular before the election.
phil labonte
It's the major reason why Donald Trump was elected.
raymond g stanley-jr
They're not falling for the media lies.
phil labonte
And it is good that people are saying, I don't care that you're saying this about these people, or I don't care that these people are going to have hardship.
Like, people have hardships.
But we can't allow 20 million people that are here illegally to stay in our country.
brett dasovic
It's also astroturfed.
Remember, Obama did campaign on illegal immigration, and that was a very popular idea for both sides for a long time.
And it wasn't until 2016 came around that that became something that became a no-go on the left.
phil labonte
You know, from 2016 until well into 2020, you would hear the leftists that were protesting Donald Trump or what have you.
They were protesting and saying things like no, no ice, no wall, no USA at all.
People heard that and they're like, oh, there are people in this country that don't even want the U.S. to exist.
And part of their method to dissolve the United States is to dissolve the borders.
So that way there's no delineation between Americans and people from other countries.
There's one thing that I want to talk about, the poll that that search put into.
It's 51-49.
Where do we send them back to?
Gitmo or back home to DC?
49% to Gitmo and 51% back home, I don't care where.
But the point is...
Their home countries don't want them.
So skip the question.
Just send them all to Gitmo.
brett dasovic
One more thing, if you want to point out to what we were talking about just a little bit ago about those kind of good-hearted liberals who don't really understand their language is like when they have the sign in their yard that says no human being is illegal.
And you understand that that is a slogan.
It's a platitude.
It means absolutely nothing.
And if it was at their doorstep, they would absolutely understand what it means.
But they're not thinking.
That deeply about it.
So again, I think that a lot of times we get lost in the weeds and you kind of over-discuss something that they're just not ready to have a conversation about at all.
unidentified
Martha Vineyard is a perfect example.
brett dasovic
That's worse.
I think they actually know and they're just really awful.
That's just a nindy.
That's just a not in my backyard.
phil labonte
Alright, we're going to jump to this story.
The Post Millennial is reporting Tennessee Dems state rep brags about interfering in ICE operations.
We got our girl squad and we're bullying the ICE vehicles and state troopers, Rep.
Ben said in the video.
I can't wait to watch this.
Democratic Tennessee state representative garnered sharp criticism on Tuesday after uploading a video of herself attempting to interfere with a recent U.S. immigration and customs operation near Nashville.
In the video, Rep.
Afton Ben, Democrat from Nashville, can be observed following federal and state law enforcement officers in a vehicle where Ben stated she had been bullying ICE agents and Tennessee Highway Patrol officers in an effort to thwart a May 9th immigration enforcement operation in Madison, Tennessee.
This came while ICE had been conducting a week-long targeted immigration enforcement operation to take on significant public safety threats, which resulted in 196 people.
So clearly she did a terrible job.
This is Nashville State Representative Afton Ben.
She posted in a 15-minute video of her and a friend stalking the Tennessee Highway Patrol as they carried out official duties.
Openly admitting they were trying to stall law enforcement from stopping illegal aliens, wrote Republican Tennessee Congressman Andy Ogles on X, who was quick to condemn the rep's actions.
Let's be clear, the mayor of Nashville is enabling Nashville liberals to actively obstruct ICE and lawful...
Law enforcement operations.
This isn't just reckless.
It's aiding and abetting.
And yes, it is.
Let's watch her doing a crime on the internet.
unidentified
Okay, this is great.
We've got our girl squad and we're bullying the ICE vehicles and state troopers.
So this is like, this is a win.
raymond g stanley-jr
She has a bunch of caps.
unidentified
Your favorite blonde state rep.
Her phone's always at 1%.
phil labonte
She's drunk.
brett dasovic
I think my superlative is most likely to always have her phone at 1%.
ak kamara
At least give her a breathalyzer.
raymond g stanley-jr
Oh, yeah, true.
brett dasovic
She's got the SSRIs.
unidentified
Okay, so we're waiting for my phone to charge.
Let me send this to Emily.
There we go.
ak kamara
Oh, she's got to be sauced up.
phil labonte
Yeah, she's totally hammered.
brett dasovic
We live in deep, young, serious times.
Thankfully, she's only a state rep.
unidentified
So they're probably running our information.
Nikki, tell us what's transpired tonight.
phil labonte
Margaritas.
brett dasovic
Margaritas and Revolution.
unidentified
I did not put makeup on because this was my plan.
Okay, then I'll put it back.
No, I mean, it's fine.
I've already seen it.
We found the ice and the THP people and then we followed them to the gas station and I took their spot at the gas station so I think that made them a little upset and then I tried to go to the bathroom but the gas station people would not let me go.
I told them I really had to.
And then when I got out, they were leaving.
So I left too.
And then they pulled into another parking lot.
And when I pulled into the other parking lot behind them, then they flipped their lights to pull us over and accused me of running around lights.
So there we are.
Tomato, tomato.
Help.
Okay, why do you think that they came up to my side, the State Trooper came up to my side of the window and not Nikki's window?
raymond g stanley-jr
Why do you think that happened?
unidentified
Also, she did not have to give her ID.
Am I correct?
I know I'm correct.
ak kamara
She's a girl boss.
unidentified
So one, why do you think that the State Trooper came up to my window, not Nikki's?
Are you on the highway?
He asked for my ID and Nikki said that that wasn't...
And he said it's a lawful order.
It's a lawful order.
serge du preez
I'm pretty sure it is.
phil labonte
Okay, so...
So that's a crime.
Yep.
And she admitted that she's trying to inhibit the operations of ICE.
brett dasovic
Her name is Afton with a Y. You don't need to take her seriously.
phil labonte
No, we need to take her seriously and throw her in jail.
ak kamara
Lock her up, man.
phil labonte
The seriousness is so that way you can...
Put her in jail.
If you don't take her seriously and say, oh, aren't you cute?
And pat her on the head and send her on the way.
Look at you being a little resistant.
brett dasovic
Throw her in jail.
phil labonte
Throw her in jail.
ak kamara
Lock her up.
So a couple of things.
One, 100% because she's not driving.
So I retract.
You don't have to give her a breath alive.
She's not driving.
So at least she's drinking responsibly because she's in the passenger.
Number two, though.
Yeah.
Lock her up, man.
She's admitting that she's trying to obstruct them and even saying the things that she did.
Because when the story first came across, I was like, maybe she's just doing one of these things where she's saying she did it.
But in reality, she didn't.
And she's trying to be like, whatever, online activist warrior.
But, yeah, it seems like they actually are admitting to the things that they did.
Like, did it seem like they had a notebook that had some notes?
Like, the driver of the car was, like, referring to something that was written down or she was looking at something.
But, yeah, I say in this case, when someone openly, especially as an elected official, says that they are trying to impede with immigration services, lock them up.
brett dasovic
This lady doesn't tip her Uber driver or her Uber Eats driver.
phil labonte
How can you tell?
brett dasovic
You can just tell.
ak kamara
You can tell.
brett dasovic
You can tell.
raymond g stanley-jr
I'm super, you know, I love American and American people, but like Phil said, at some point we want to win back our country, so send her to South Sudan.
ak kamara
Well, she is an American citizen, and the process that is due to her is actually different than the process due to criminal aliens.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, I want to throw her in jail just for that first line of, we got our girl squad.
brett dasovic
I'm sure she's got a coffee cup that says, keep calm and obstruct ice.
ak kamara
Something like that.
I bet she has a TikTok video of what is it?
What was it called?
brett dasovic
Icy Boots.
ak kamara
Icy New Boots or whatever that trend was.
When they were like posting like, oh, this is where ICE is going to be and we're going to obstruct them.
And then people were making like violent threats towards ICE agents.
But I also do want to know whose vehicle that was.
Because did you see that it was custom interior, all pink?
phil labonte
Yeah, her friend had pink hair too.
ak kamara
Yeah, so it could be either one.
I hope it's hers though.
brett dasovic
Like, you know she's made like a get ready with...
I'm about to go and stage a revolution.
ak kamara
Yeah, I see new boots, man.
brett dasovic
You say take them seriously and I understand what you're saying, but when I see stuff like this, it's so satirical in a way that even movies couldn't have predicted.
Idiocracy probably couldn't even have predicted just how stupid things would be.
And also, not to be outdone, is the fact that these are the people who talk about no one is above the law and when they get caught doing something they're not supposed to do, they'll say that it's the Gestapo and it's the secret police and they're out to get them.
Committing crimes.
I'm caught between apathy, exhaustion, and annoyance.
phil labonte
Streaming crimes onto the internet.
Very proudly committing crimes.
And then again, just like you said, we'll say, oh, you know, it's the Gestapo and Trump's Stasi are out picking up people.
And it's like, well...
You're literally proud of the fact that you're committing crimes.
And to be honest with you, when they do get arrested, they're proud of that too because we do live in a civilized country where nothing significant is going to happen.
So she's actually going to be able to use this, put it on her Instagram, and it'll give her leftist bona fides and she will be able to be like, look at me, I actually went and did something.
raymond g stanley-jr
Yeah, a lot of lefties, girl boss types are going to watch this.
She's going to get a lot of likes and a lot of views and everyone's going to do the same.
They're all going to follow the trend.
brett dasovic
So the good people of Nashville are picking up the tab on her antidepressants in Merlot.
phil labonte
More than likely.
ak kamara
Oh, guaranteed they are.
In a more serious tone, I do think that something has to be done when, again, the level of someone that is in the know, they are a lawmaker in Tennessee, and they're willfully breaking, with intention, federal law, you have to throw the hammer on them.
And yeah, you know what?
They're going to get their badge that they're a freedom fighter.
But I hope that they actually press the issue and charge her with the highest crime possible.
And I would love to see her being purplocked and being like, it wasn't worth it.
I should have just served the people that elected me versus people that are here without permission.
And let's be very clear about this.
ICE has been going after, specifically, people that have been convicted of horrendous crimes.
So when they're blocking, did you block a rapist from being picked up?
Or someone that killed multiple people?
Like, who was it that you're blocking?
And so it would be funny to go and look at the 196, I think that's what the number is reported, and see which kind of people did they pick up.
And then for her to be like, oh, these are the people that I didn't want to get taken off the streets of the city that I'm serving the people of.
brett dasovic
But her party, she is virtue signaling to the revolutionaries who want that, who want her to prevent rapists from being incarcerated or removed or the useful idiots who just think that everybody's here for a better life and don't understand that the people that are being deported right now are violent criminals.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, look, that was in the first paragraph that the people that were being picked up by ICE, they were significant public safety threats, 196 of them.
So you're talking about actual criminals.
So like, you know, hashtag I saved a rapist.
ak kamara
Exactly.
phil labonte
Good job, sweetheart.
Let's watch this video.
Rep.
Andy Ogles said, Is aiding and abetting illegal aliens to evade law enforcement a crime?
Secretary Noem says, Yes.
I will be formally requesting that the Judiciary and Homeland Security committees investigate Mayor Freddie O 'Connell and Nashville city officials for their repeated obstruction of ICE.
unidentified
Instead of thanking you and your leadership and thanking the president, the mayor of Nashville criticized and attacked law enforcement verbally.
He then instructed members of law enforcement to report any communication with federal authorities.
He then directed the police community oversight board to direct citizens to file complaints against law enforcement if they cooperate with federal law enforcement.
Considering we've seen a 400% increase against federal law enforcement, do these types of statements and actions by a municipal leader concern you?
kristi noem
Yes, absolutely.
They perpetuate the violence against law enforcement officers.
And what happens many times then is that our agents within the Department of Homeland Security go into situations with no backup, with no local response of people who know the communities, know the routes, the roads, or the needs to emergency services that may be there.
So it absolutely makes them much more vulnerable to a situation to which their lives could be in jeopardy.
unidentified
Yes, ma 'am.
And if a municipal leader is found to be aiding and abetting illegal immigrants to evade federal law enforcement, would that be a criminal act?
kristi noem
Yes, I believe it would, sir.
unidentified
And if elected officials impede ICE or Homeland Security in doing their job in pursuing illegal immigrants, would that be a criminal act?
kristi noem
I believe so.
unidentified
Madam Secretary and Mr. Chairman, I will be asking the Committee of Homeland Security and Judiciary to be looking into the mayor of Nashville.
In any collusion or impeding of federal authorities and conducting their work in the city of Nashville, I would also encourage this committee and judiciary to look at other leaders, municipal leaders across the country, as they obstruct this administration, this Madam Secretary, and her employees in doing their constitutional job, which is uphold the rule of law.
Madam Secretary, I thank you, and I yield back.
phil labonte
So, I mean, it would be nice to think that there's actually going to be some repercussions for this, but, I mean, what do we think?
Do we think that this is actually going to produce fruit?
raymond g stanley-jr
It could be the very first time ever that I've been alive that the 80-20 or the 70-30 issue that the American people want gets handled, where it's 66% wants them to be gone, because the government doesn't do what people want.
This might be the very first time, maybe, if they just do it, crack down, arrest them.
Put him in jail.
Nobody cares.
You break the law, you break the law.
It'd be nice.
phil labonte
This is actually talking about city officials and going after the mayor.
raymond g stanley-jr
Yeah, well, same thing.
Same, same.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, I don't know that the mayor actually was doing the obstruction.
raymond g stanley-jr
Well, if they are, I'm saying.
ak kamara
Yeah.
I think it's a different issue.
But to answer the question, I think that this administration will probably be the only one, and maybe future, but that's a different conversation.
But be the only one that would actually try and hold people accountable.
I think this administration is all about that.
If you look at what they've already done, the question is, why don't we do more of it?
Now, there's the cynic that says, well, it's because everyone in the government is all dirty, all politicians are dirty, and it's all one big game and you're not in it.
That's one way to look at it.
The way that I actually look at it from a political standpoint is it's unpopular.
To go and arrest people if they can spin a narrative that you're attacking them for political purposes, right?
That doesn't really work well with the American people.
If they think that you are going after someone, even if you have a stack of evidence, the reality is it will seem like you're going after them for political purposes.
But I think that we don't need to care about that as long as truth is on our side to a certain level.
But there are trade-offs.
Because you can be the righteous warrior that has truth on your side and still lose power politically.
Thomas Sowell talks about this all the time, is that the reason why political leaders make actions that they do is because they don't have to stand up to the consequences as long as they're able to convince the people that this is good for them now.
And so there is a part of me that does believe that this administration...
Is actually doing it.
They're doing the work, but there's a way that you have to assuage it.
And I think that all of this, when you put it in its greater context, you go after the people that are dirtbag criminals that are here illegally.
So you can set the framing of like, this is why we're going after them.
And then you look at the polling and it shows that the American people still...
Do support this deportation.
And then you do the other little carrots out there that are like, hey, we just had our first plane ride of people that self-deported.
Yay!
Do you guys see that?
When they were out there pumping that up.
So all of those things I think are all part of it to be able to say that.
The American people want accountability, and I think in the case of this state rep, not necessarily the mayor, I don't know all the details behind the national mayor and what they've said or done, but this state rep, I think that they have enough of them admitting it that you should be able to arrest, and it's not going to be like, oh, you're just going after her because she's a Democrat.
But that, to me, is the way to look at it is the action doesn't happen if politically it can be very disadvantageous to us on the right.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, I think you're right.
I think I said this last night.
Public opinion really does a lot to cover for whether or not a specific...
Policy is actually legal or not.
If you have the backing of the people, the government is absolutely able to do things that are technically illegal.
If you don't have the backing of the people, even doing legal things is really, really, really hard.
brett dasovic
The Patriot Act.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, there you go.
ak kamara
Well, Tim talks about that, right?
Like, he said it before numerous times.
The law doesn't matter.
It's about social enforcement.
Is the society going to stand for it?
If the answer is no, it doesn't matter how many laws you say are being broken.
Does society accept it to be a thing or not?
But that's why I think ultimately the reason why we don't see the type of arrest that all of us on the right want to see is because societally...
There are people that are just like, nope, that's a fascist move, and we have to convince enough people, man.
brett dasovic
Well, and a lot of it is historically taking place in deep blue cities where they're going to get a lot of pushback anyways, right?
The people that are voting for it are not the ones living in those cities, so you're going to come into a bunch of pushback the second you go in and try to do that, and it's going to be seen as a show of force, and people are not going to like it.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean the localized effects of your local government and just the mindset of the local people.
Like if you have policies in New York, as much as we talk about – we were just talking 66 percent of Americans want to see deportation.
Well, who are those – If you try to round people up in New York City, like that's going to be tough because the people that are localized in the area that you're actually carrying out the operation – And then you end up with a situation where people are filming, you and the police and the people fighting, and then it...
It looks bad for the police and that's all kinds of bad press.
So it's tough to do that.
brett dasovic
It's another reason why the Democrats work so hard to have the media on their side for as long as they have, right?
Because like you said earlier, does truth even matter these days?
A lot of times I would argue that it doesn't.
Practically speaking, it doesn't matter to a lot of people because the truth is whatever the video clip they see in front of them tells it.
You know, tells them that it is.
phil labonte
Very funny people hoax.
brett dasovic
Yeah.
Like the fact that you're still battling that years later.
And there's the fact, look, a lot of people, when that one came to light for me, that was very eye-opening early on for me.
But there's a large swath of the population still where, and I think that's kind of a diagnosed phenomenon psychologically, which is like when you're confronted with...
You know, facts that disprove what you believe, people just tend to believe it even more.
ak kamara
Yeah, cognitive distortion is very painful.
When someone believes something to be a thing, and then you shatter their worldview for something that they've believed for so long, it's physically painful for people.
Like, they've done all these studies on it.
serge du preez
You mean cognitive dissonance?
ak kamara
Cognitive dissonance, yeah.
I said distortion.
Yeah.
So ultimately, though, to your point, I think that when you're talking about...
Does the truth matter?
There is the game that has to be played if we're just being realistic.
Being the person that's all idealistic and you say, this is what I want to do, this is the right thing to do, that's great.
But in a world where we have a democracy from an institutional standpoint where people cast their vote for their elected official, I know we're a constitutional republic, but we have democratic institutions, you have to be able to convince people enough.
And I think if you look, again, Take a stand back and view everything that the Trump administration is doing.
They're doing these issues that are 80-20 issues, right?
Or 60-40 or 70-30.
And they're getting buy-in from the American people.
And they're seeing like this.
We know what the right thing is to do.
But can we convince enough people that it's the right thing?
And I think the administration so far has done a great job.
But that's why they're doing the self-deportation push.
They're going after the worst.
And they're defying these federal judges, which I believe they need to continue to do so they can.
I have a question for you then.
brett dasovic
So you're talking 80-20 issues.
And I think 80-20 issues are bolstered by the media coverage that they get because they're polarizing by nature.
A lot of times they lead to discussion online.
People go back and forth.
Are we kind of past the days where the type of bread and butter issue for like a blue dog Democrat, which is like, you know, your regular everyday issues are just no longer...
phil labonte
I don't think that they're not relevant, but I think that it's hard to get the coverage of them that...
People actually want, because people respond to things that make them emotional.
If you talk to someone without showing them, like, Donald Trump was this, or the Republicans did this, or the Democrats did this, if you don't put something in front of them with a fiery headline and just say, hey, what are the things that matter to you?
They'll talk about what...
We tend to be kitchen table issues.
In polls all the time, it's like the most important thing is the economy.
The most important thing is the economy.
Everybody believes that all the time.
Consistently in polls, people say the economy is the most important because everybody has to be able to pay their bills and everybody has to be able to...
To take care of their families.
But the stuff that gets traction is not economic reports.
Unless they're economic reports tied to Donald Trump is the monster.
Donald Trump's screwing you out of money.
Or the Democrats are screwing up this blah blah blah and here's the economic report that shows it.
Those economic reports will get traction because they manage to tie it to an emotion.
But when you ask people in a...
You know, a normal manner, ask them in a poll or whatever.
They're constantly going to tell you, kitchen table issues are what's important to me.
But they react emotionally.
To things that are not kitchen table issues.
ak kamara
Yeah, I think the issue that you bring up, like, are yellow dog or blue dog Democrats, do they still exist?
The answer is yes, at a local level.
But because things have become so national, like, it's crazy.
So in Minnesota, you know, the way that our legislature is compromised, we are perfectly split in power in our statehouse.
We have 67 Democrats, 67 Republicans, right?
So if you look across the state, that means that we're kind of close on a lot of issues.
But when you actually see what the left has done, they've come together and they've decided that they're going to be this woke, nonsense, mass hysteria, anti-human party that's going to say abortion up to nine months.
Let's give criminal aliens healthcare benefits.
Let's give criminal aliens free tuition.
Let's give them driver's license.
When that's the issue, that's going to override everything else.
I would argue that within the Democrat caucus in Minnesota, we call them DFL, that there are plenty of Democrats where if you got them in a room separate and you said, hey, where are you at at this issue?
They'd be like, I'm with you.
But the cult's voting this way and I want to stay in power, so I've got to vote with the cult.
So to answer your question, I think, yes, they exist, but they are afraid because the cult has taken over the Democrats and until they get rid of the cultiness, which, good luck.
Because now that they're entrenched and they're in power, it's going to be very, very brutal for them to separate themselves.
They're going to try.
I don't think that they functionally exist anymore because it doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter if on 90 issues, they might be with us.
It's the big issues.
Abortion on demand, criminal aliens, funding everything regardless of how much income, taxing the rich.
These are the things that the cult has decided.
Black people are oppressed.
Anti-racism is good.
If you don't align with the cult, you know, boys can be girls and girls can be boys, then you're not a Democrat.
So it doesn't matter if all the other issues, you actually would vote with Republicans.
raymond g stanley-jr
How does such a tiny, tiny, tiny viewing of life, like what are they, like 4%, 10% of everything, how do they have such a huge grasp?
phil labonte
Because they're the ones that are activists.
raymond g stanley-jr
So loud?
phil labonte
Because they're the ones that are activists.
They're the ones that are going to decide who's going to be in the primaries.
So, like we were talking about this the other night, whoever, the Democrats have a real bad problem because they have to have someone that's extreme enough to win primaries, so that has to be able to appeal to the progressives and the leftists, and then they have to be able to win a general election.
And it's normal, it has historically been normal for, you know, Politicians to have to cater to the base a little bit during primaries to win the primary and then to slide to the center some to win your generals.
The Democrats are so far left, and the far leftists are the ones that have control.
So it's going to be really, really hard to find a Democrat that can actually satisfy the far leftists and then slide enough to the right to make your moderates and your centrists think, okay, this guy actually does have my needs in mind.
ak kamara
They're going to beat you into submission.
They're going to show up to your house.
They're going to do all of these crazy activist things.
phil labonte
They threaten you.
ak kamara
That's why they're able to do it, man.
If the right adopted the same exact techniques and tactics, we'd be successful.
But that's kind of antithetical to who we are.
We're not going to show up and say that we're going to shut you down when you disagree with us on something.
We'll have a robust debate about it.
brett dasovic
They also don't get the cover from the media.
That the most extreme on the left do.
Also, but they have Gavin Newsom.
He's like, watch, I can destroy this country just like I destroyed California.
raymond g stanley-jr
Well, like, I brought up Ro Khanna last week and you and Tim shut me down because he's not extreme enough.
phil labonte
Well, I don't think that he's extreme enough.
A lot of the situation with the left is like, look, the things that the people that are...
On the far left believe, do not align with reality.
And they don't align with what most people think.
Most people do not believe men can become women.
You just can't do that.
And there was a time when people that were Democrats would say, well, you know, maybe we can just say, well, you know, call them by the pronouns they want, and then go ahead and, you know, we'll make sure that they have somewhere to go to the bathroom, and that'll be okay.
We can figure it out.
But the extremists on the left, the far left, are like, no, you know, S the D, or you're a bigot.
Like, if you're a man and you won't date a trans woman, you're a bigot.
So that's the mentality that the far left has, and that's the problem that the Democrats are dealing with.
It's not just that they're far left on issues, it's that they believe things that are unreal.
They believe things that normal people don't believe.
So, we're going to move on to this little clip here from Tim Bucharet.
Burchett, right?
Burchett?
ak kamara
Burchett.
phil labonte
Bucharet?
Oh, whatever.
Tim Burchett, he had some things to say about the Kennedy assassination, so take it away, Tim.
unidentified
Hey everybody, Tim Burchett, returning from an oversight committee.
We were talking about John F. Kennedy, President Kennedy's assassination in 1963.
Just some incredible testimony from the attending physician in the emergency room.
He told us the way the bullets entered, where they came from, and they came from two dadgum different directions, and there were four bullets fired.
It was just incredible.
Anyway, big cover up, of course.
Will we get to the bottom of it?
Probably not.
You always got a patsy, and it's obviously Lee Harvey Oswald was a patsy.
He might have pulled the trigger on one of the bullets, but I don't think on all three, and that would have been a bolt action.
Which is a Manlaker carbine.
It's an Italian carbine.
I got one somewhere.
It was written up in a magazine one time.
It's the only gun that never won a war.
Oswald could have walked into a Western Auto and bought an M1 with a scope for under 50 bucks at that time.
It was just literally a Western Auto.
But he chose a...
Mail order, Italian car.
The whole thing is just crazy.
Anyway, we're digging into it.
Thank you all for sending me here.
brett dasovic
I think he might be my new favorite politician.
raymond g stanley-jr
Tim's solid, bro.
phil labonte
So, is the going theory now that one of the shooters was Israeli?
raymond g stanley-jr
Wait, wait.
brett dasovic
Maybe they curved a bullet like in Wanted.
phil labonte
Well, you know, I mean, if it's not, if it wasn't just a single shooter, maybe one of the shooters was Israeli, right?
raymond g stanley-jr
I didn't know that was on the table.
Mossad, right?
brett dasovic
Or the mob.
phil labonte
Well, one was the mob, and one was Mossad.
brett dasovic
So it was Lee Harvey Oswald, a guy in the mob, and then somebody from Israel.
raymond g stanley-jr
Okay.
phil labonte
Oh, okay.
So we're going to go to this here clip, I guess.
Do you want to go to it?
unidentified
No?
raymond g stanley-jr
It's an hour long.
phil labonte
Oh, no.
Never mind.
raymond g stanley-jr
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the overtime.
phil labonte
The government lied to us about the Kennedy assassination.
serge du preez
Yeah, I was just pointing out where it says underneath there.
It says the truth about JFK and RFK, the CIA, Mossad.
It's like the first.
phil labonte
What'd I tell you?
raymond g stanley-jr
You're right.
phil labonte
What'd I tell you?
raymond g stanley-jr
No, no, no.
ak kamara
Number two.
serge du preez
He gets brought up immediately.
ak kamara
Listen, I love Congressman Burchett.
I think if you watch him over the years, he says it like it is.
That's probably why he keeps on getting re-elected.
A lot of the stuff with the...
The UFO UAP hearings that he was coming out and saying are, again, amazing to watch.
Some of me wonders, like, does he do it because in the caucus, because like the way the government all works, the Republicans have a caucus, they have a leadership structure, and they're like, go ahead, man, you just go out there and say what you want to say.
And that's kind of what I think because he's also made some claims.
Like, do you remember when there was the fog and everyone was like, oh, I can taste metallic or taste whatever?
He literally said that there were Chinese drones.
Off the East Coast that had motherships.
That's what he went on.
raymond g stanley-jr
The mist happened?
ak kamara
Yeah, was the mist and then with the drones as well.
Remember all of that was all happening?
raymond g stanley-jr
Yeah, it was.
ak kamara
Yeah, but with all the drones.
All the New Jersey drones, right?
And he literally said that there was a Chinese mothership that had like 20 mini drones in it.
He made that statement.
You gotta take it with a grain of salt, man.
I don't know.
brett dasovic
I hate politicians by default, but this guy's...
He's alright.
He's one of the good ones.
phil labonte
I mean, I'm kind of curious.
I mean, he said he's got...
He's talking about the rifle.
He's like, I got one of them somewhere.
Why would you lose a rifle, man?
brett dasovic
Maybe he did it.
raymond g stanley-jr
He's got so many, I'm sure.
He's from the woods.
brett dasovic
He's also, like, he's Hollywood-coded as a Republican politician.
Like, every Hollywood depiction of a Republican is exactly this guy.
He's got a Tibetan nanny.
He's never paid.
unidentified
Very specific.
raymond g stanley-jr
He's had a tough...
All names today.
All the stories are just a bunch of tough names.
I'm just saying.
Not talking ish or anything, but it's fine.
phil labonte
It's fine.
brett dasovic
Wait, so, okay, who did it then?
raymond g stanley-jr
Oh, yeah, yeah, back to the story.
phil labonte
Look, man, apparently, multiple shooters, so we can spread the blame around.
brett dasovic
Yes.
unidentified
That's fair.
ak kamara
Everyone kind of, like, they drew straws.
They're like, who are we going to, like, officially blame?
phil labonte
Yeah.
ak kamara
I am interested, though, to see, like, do we actually ever get an answer?
phil labonte
Well, I mean, look, the files came out, and everybody that had an opinion...
Read the files and their opinion was confirmed.
All the different opinions.
They read the files and they said, see, I was right.
raymond g stanley-jr
That actually happened.
brett dasovic
Also, anybody who's watched the X-Files knows that the cigarette smoking man was actually the one who killed both JFK and Martin Luther King.
phil labonte
Can we not talk about cigarettes, please?
raymond g stanley-jr
Andrew here at work, he has some kind of cool tech IT thing, you know what I mean?
I don't know anything about that, but he can look up the whole files.
It's 14,000 crazy amount of papers that he could do a search.
We should ask him to look up two shooters.
Yeah, like a special program for her.
I mean, I don't know much about it.
I'm not an IT dude.
I use a hammer.
phil labonte
Andrew, if you're watching...
brett dasovic
He knows?
So he knows who did it?
Come on!
phil labonte
Search the word Israel.
ak kamara
Bring it to your guy.
Honestly, like I said, with all of the release and all that, everyone has their own theory of...
All these subjective things.
Just tell me what actually happened.
And if you say that you don't and this is our best theory...
unidentified
Someone shot JFK.
ak kamara
Right.
phil labonte
That's what happened.
ak kamara
But who it was and what it was, I'm okay with it.
It's happened so far, like so long ago.
I'll be honest.
I don't really care.
raymond g stanley-jr
Agreed.
ak kamara
I really don't.
I just find it interesting to hear all the different theories.
The only thing that I would care about would be if the CIA did it and then...
All of those people just got away.
I would care about that.
But then again, I'd say, well, yeah, it's the CIA.
They've been doing insane things for a long time.
phil labonte
No, they've been trying to do insane things.
They have not been particularly successful.
There are a few things that they got away with that are big names.
But the most common name that I've heard for CIA...
When it comes to people that actually work with CIA, like people in the military, is clowns in action, right?
And the best evidence that they really aren't this omnipotent, you know, can do whatever they want whenever they want organization is the fact that Castro lived so long.
ak kamara
Sure.
phil labonte
They went after him.
They tried a boatload of different ways, clandestine ways.
They tried the Bay of Pigs.
They tried all kinds of stuff.
And Castro was just like, nope.
And Castro was stuck on an island 90 miles off of Florida.
CIA, they've done some stuff.
They did Northwoods.
They've done a lot of PSYOP operations.
But when it comes to actual, like, guerrilla stuff or, like, secretly murdering people, I don't think that they're all that successful.
Like, they're not batting a thousand at all.
ak kamara
Yeah, well, it's a PSYOP to the PSYOP.
unidentified
Yes.
ak kamara
To the PSYOP.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, they're successful.
Successful when it comes to, like, fomenting displeasure in countries.
They're successful in...
In, you know, getting money to people that don't like the current government and getting those people to fight the current government.
They're successful.
They were successful in giving money to...
unidentified
Like propaganda?
phil labonte
What?
raymond g stanley-jr
Like propaganda-wise?
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
Well, not just that.
ak kamara
I'm talking about like the Mujahideen.
phil labonte
Well, not just that, but like the Mujahideen, right?
So they got...
They were successful in getting stinger missiles to the Mujahideen in Afghanistan, right?
And they didn't get busted for it until...
Or they didn't get busted for it until after the Soviets were gone.
So they were successful in that.
But the idea of them doing a whole lot of assassinations, I don't think they're particularly successful.
And I think the best evidence for that is the fact that...
brett dasovic
Yeah, but what's Israel's track record on assassinations?
unidentified
Mossad!
phil labonte
Now Mossad!
They know how to blow dicks up.
brett dasovic
Maybe if JFK had his own Iron Dome, this would have never happened.
raymond g stanley-jr
The Golden Dome.
ak kamara
Golden Dome.
brett dasovic
Like, if USAID had helped, then it would have been some type of PSYOP.
phil labonte
Yeah, so, I mean, look, there are definitely clandestine organizations that are good at stuff.
Like, you know, Green Berets actually, they actually go in and teach militants how to actually fight, and Delta, like, they...
They're door kickers, and those guys are doing that job.
But too many people think that CIA does everything because they're so clandestine.
They're just like, oh, CIA did this, and CIA did that.
They do PSYOPs mostly, and there's not a whole lot of direct action guys.
There's a handful, a small unit that's like the ground branch guys that actually do security, and sometimes they'll go with the army guys to go.
Get into gunfights and stuff like that.
There was a CIA guy on Neptune's spear.
That was the raid to kill Bin Laden.
There was at least one CIA guy that went in with them that was all kitted up and stuff, but he wasn't with them.
He was actually CIA, but he was there mostly to do Terp stuff.
And identify things.
ak kamara
That sounds like what a CIA guy would say if he was the front man of a band.
phil labonte
I am not CIA.
ak kamara
Traveled all over the world multiple times, Phil.
phil labonte
No, not me.
So we're going to jump to this story.
Gen Z and millennial men in the U.S. are among the loneliest in the Western world.
Here's why.
Spoiler alert, they got it wrong.
From Fortunewell, young men in the U.S. are among the loneliest in the Western world a new Gallup poll has found.
Those between the ages of 15 and 34 reported feeling lonely more than their counterparts across 38 higher-income Democrat countries ahead of countries including France, Canada, Ireland, and Spain, and surpassed in loneliness only by young men in Turkey.
This demographic is also one of the loneliest of all in the U.S., with 25% of men in this age group saying they felt lonely a lot of the previous day, significantly higher than the national average of 18, and the total for young women also 18. That amounts to one in four men under 35 feeling lonely.
And loneliness, which was declared a national epidemic by the former U.S. Surgeon General Vivek Murthy in 2023, has been found to increase the risk of developing depression, anxiety, diabetes, heart disease, dementia, and stroke, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
Only three of the countries in the poll, the U.S., Iceland, and Denmark, have a loneliness rate among young men that is higher than it is for other adults.
In Iceland and Denmark, though, 15% of younger men reported daily loneliness versus 10% and 9% respectively of the rest of the population.
The gap is wider in the U.S., where 25% of young men are lonely as compared with 17% of all other adults.
What do you guys think?
Do you guys have an inclination as to why this is?
raymond g stanley-jr
I would go with the social media.
Everyone's away from each other more than they should be together.
Back in the day, you used to go out and see people.
Nowadays, they don't see people.
You just see people online.
You sit at home and you watch your movies.
You play your video games.
You don't get out.
And it's just probably really depressing.
I don't know any young people like that age that they don't get out.
So I think the media disconnects us.
It doesn't connect us as much as we think it does.
phil labonte
Nope, it's Andrew Tate in porn.
ak kamara
No, I'm just kidding.
I think you're onto something.
It is a lot of social isolation because we can jump on an app and we can feel like we're connected, but I don't think that that is a great actual analog for human interaction and connection.
There are studies out there that talk about actually needing physical contact and touch.
So I would just say to young men, go find yourself a lady.
The problem is that the young ladies today are insane.
I've been married for 20 years.
Shout out to the Shmoopy.
I'll be 21 years in July.
And so I don't really know what that's like.
But I will say that looking at different studies that have been done, that social media has a lot to do, especially with men that are in this age demographic where you're looking at Zoomers.
Social media has been destroying people's brains.
And I would say that...
When we're talking specifically about loneliness, you just got to find more groups that actually physically meet up and do physical things, whether it's sports, hiking, whatever it might be.
But yeah, man, I mean, it's a real problem and we better figure it out because we're talking about the progenitors of our society, right?
These are going to be the people that are going to be having kids going forward.
And if they're all lonely and they're not even hooking up, that population cliff is even more drastic than what we're looking at right now.
unidentified
Yeah.
brett dasovic
It's not just men.
It's men and women.
This was primed.
Jonathan Haidt wrote the book about not just coddling in the American mind, but what was the other one?
ak kamara
Exist Generation.
brett dasovic
Basically talking about how social media was primed to destroy young women.
First, right?
So it destroyed the self-worth in the image of young women.
Men have been destroyed by social media in their own way, and it's not something that can be fixed, at least not something that can be fixed in the traditional sense, because we are only going to become more and more reliant on technology as a society.
And it's much in the same way that we have the discussion that having an argument about politics is very different in person, as opposed to arguing with someone on the internet trying to court somebody of the opposite sex.
It's also very different in person as it is on the internet.
And a lot of women talk about how men just – they won't approach them because most – like up to a certain range, like a lot of young men, they've never approached a woman in person in their entire lives because they've read the stories about how when it – when some guy comes up and approaches a woman and she takes poorly to it and they get labeled a creep, something like that.
Now, those stories, however – how common they are, I don't know.
But a lot of times, just like everything – We talk about politics.
That's the stuff that gets clicked.
Stuff that sells well for the people who write these articles.
And a lot of these problems aren't going to be fixed by anything like that.
Dating apps have lifetime options where you can buy the dating.
You can buy a lifetime.
Really?
Yeah.
Imagine that.
The whole point of it is supposed to be that it gets you off the app.
phil labonte
Isn't that more of a feature of hookup culture, though?
brett dasovic
That's what I'm saying.
That doesn't bode well for actual human connection if the whole point of it is to get married.
Because all hookup culture is going to do is get you vapid, one-time interactions that doesn't go anywhere.
That doesn't help society if you're really talking about making changes culturally.
That's just the same thing that was happening at nightclubs, but with none of the actual camaraderie that might come with going out with your friends at night.
ak kamara
Yeah, like going back again.
When you talk about Jonathan Haidt, I've read every single book that he has.
I think it's fascinating talking about moral foundations theory.
But Anxious Generation is the most recent book that he wrote.
And earlier today, quite literally, man, I was having this conversation with my younger brother because he has a nine-month-old baby girl.
And he's talking about like, hey, man, I don't want to have any screen time.
And I was telling him, like, these studies show, like, it's damaged.
Our Generation Alpha and also the Zoomers, it's damaging them because we've moved from being a play-based society to a phone-based society.
And it's creating little anxiety-filled narcissists.
It's horrifying.
And luckily certain states have already made moves to get rid of it.
But the one thing I would say, if you've got a kid under the age of 16, don't let them use social media.
As difficult as that might be, it's destroying them and it's making them feel anxious and lonely.
phil labonte
The idea of schools putting screens in front of kids all the time now, which is, it's bad enough that you've got...
There are a lot of parents that are just like, well, the screen can babysit them.
You put whatever on and that'll keep them busy.
But nowadays, kids, as soon as they go to school, they're doing things on screens and stuff.
I'm not doing that with my kid.
Homeschool your kid, man.
ak kamara
Homeschool your kid.
phil labonte
I'm going to have my first in October and I'm not putting screens in that kid's hand and I'm not sending them to school because I don't want them...
I don't want their face to be shoved in a screen.
That's terrible for a child.
And I said something about that on the internet today.
This was in a reply to someone.
Not even posting on my own.
But in a reply to someone, I was like, yeah, we're going to homeschool.
And there were a lot of people that were like, oh, your kid's going to have all these problems.
Your kid's going to be awkward.
I'm like...
If I keep the screens out of my kids' hands and they don't go to school where they are interacting with all the crazy people, all the kids that have been...
Basically raised by a screen.
What makes you think that my kids are going to be the ones that have the problem, you know?
ak kamara
Yeah, because again, social media, like honestly, the suicidal ideations that have increased for both men, for males and females, is through the roof.
And I would just say if someone's like, oh, why would you want to not socialize your kid and send him to homeschool?
There's so many different homeschool alternatives that exist to this day.
I understand not everyone can do the homeschool thing, and I get it.
It's like not shaded.
But if you can, you should.
And there are, like, pods that exist in homeschool networks of the different parents.
They'll even rotate through and say, like, you take the kids for this to go and do this activity and things like that.
It's growing all across the nation.
But I would just say the pushback is, yeah, I might homeschool my kid, but I'm able to make sure that they're not using social media so they're not sitting there looking depressed, having depression, anxiety, and suicidal ideation.
I saved their life.
I think that that's a fair tradeoff.
It's a little bit socially awkward, but who isn't these days?
brett dasovic
Well, also, look, it's not just good advice for kids.
As an adult, my fiancé definitely has to remind me to take my eyes off the phone from time to time as I tend to be there.
Whether it's because of work, which is my excuse most of the time that I'm working and things like that, you have to also disconnect from your phone and re-engage in the world.
And a lot of times for us, it's like no phones at dinner, something like that.
It seems...
It's weird to have to say it, but sometimes you have to force yourself away because the technology is just so easy to get stuck in that you have to remind yourself that you need to reconnect with the people around you.
The tools you learn in sobriety have worked with me in this, which is partly like I can tell myself, I can feel when I'm getting more anxious or more annoyed because I'm on my phone more.
And you have to be able to notice that, catch it, and then disengage from what you're doing.
Go outside.
For me, it's go skating.
For other people, it's go workout, run, whatever.
But that technology isn't just dangerous to kids.
It's just as dangerous to people our age or, like you said, the people in their mid-20s who aren't.
raymond g stanley-jr
I know you've got to get the super chats, but just on Brett's point right there, gentlemen, I get notifications monthly.
Like, hey, you've been on your phone this much.
And I got recently, it was like, I've been on the phone less than the previous month.
And it was like, a dopamine hit?
Because I was like, yeah, let's go.
I'm not on my phone as much as I was before.
brett dasovic
That's paradoxical.
raymond g stanley-jr
I know, I mean, I'll take it.
So I'm hoping for next month.
I want next month to be less and less and less.
ak kamara
And if not, then you will fall into a...
Very deep depression.
brett dasovic
It's a corresponding dopamine hit.
It's higher for...
raymond g stanley-jr
Someday it'll be zero.
That's impossible.
Never mind.
unidentified
When you have your narrow link in, it won't even track that because you'll always be connected with a narrow link.
phil labonte
Me and my girlfriend are talking about when the baby comes, phones just stay somewhere else and possibly I'll have a computer and I'll use the computer, but having the phone on you all the time is going to just teach the kid.
That, you know, this is what you're supposed to do.
You know, we'll have TV, but I don't want, you know, I don't want, like, Miss Rachel raising my kid.
You know, I don't want the standard TV shows that kids watch to be the thing.
unidentified
Oh, come on!
phil labonte
Yeah, I don't, like, I want my kid to, like, listen to people talking normal.
And if you look back, the way that children used to talk, like, when they used to learn how to speak, it wasn't, you know...
It was like Mr. Rogers would speak slowly, but it wasn't like weird noises.
And if you listen to the kids' shows nowadays, some of them don't even speak.
The Teletubbies never talk.
And I know that they're not new nowadays, and there's probably more modern stuff that kids watch, but they don't actually speak.
And I'm like, the reason why a lot of kids...
Don't speak well now and they can't articulate themselves is because they don't hear adults articulating properly.
They get baby talk.
They hear shows that have baby talk or don't actually have words.
And that's their entertainment.
It affects the way that they learn.
Kids need to hear normal conversation.
And I know that...
This may sound crazy, but I'm going to put on the normal stuff that I watch, which is a lot of podcasts and a lot of news and stuff like that, and my kid's going to hear a lot of that.
I don't know what it's going to actually be like when the kid's around, but I tend to have...
You know, stuff going all the time, and I'm not going to put on just something for the kid to stare at, especially when the kid's, like, you know, really small, you know?
ak kamara
Yeah, and I think that there's different phases because all that's good at, you know, very, very young age, but the key is, that Jonathan Haidt talks about, is that you've got to teach your kid how to go and play.
Be a kid.
So they can actually problem solve.
The reason why there's so much depression and anxiety is because you can block people, you can gang up on them online, and you actually don't have to solve any problems.
It shuts down your ability to actually solve any type of group dynamics, which causes more anxiety because we're social creatures.
So if you no longer have the ability to have the tools available to solve problems by interacting with other people, you will fold inwards and you'll be like, wow, this really sucks.
I'm isolated.
And so, yeah, I mean, everything that you said, Phil, I think there's actually empirical evidence to show that that's the way you should do it.
And then the key to all of that is that when they get to the age where they can play with other children, make sure that they're doing that and they're not just, like, playing online.
That they're physically going and playing and problem-solving together as children and they're going to learn the social dynamics and that's what will actually allow them to have proper brain development and group dynamics.
brett dasovic
Have you seen the videos where a parent turns on Cocoa Cocomelon, and the kid hears it from the other room and starts running.
It's like a Pavlovian response.
ak kamara
Bro, it's like baby brain crack.
That's what it is, dude.
phil labonte
I don't want that.
brett dasovic
Phil's going to turn on Lex Friedman for the kid.
raymond g stanley-jr
He's first going to put the kid to sleep like that.
phil labonte
Yeah, the kid will sleep.
brett dasovic
Sleep right through it.
phil labonte
All right, so we're going to go to Super Chat.
So smash the like button, share the show with all your friends and stuff, and we are going to find out what kind of nuggets the chat has left for us today.
Let's see here.
Whoa, that's real big.
There you go.
Let's see.
Let's see.
unidentified
Uh...
phil labonte
Um...
Bright Results Media says, give it up for President Trump calling out the president of South Africa to his face.
It was really interesting to see, you know, Donald Trump not only, you know, contradict him, but have that video put together for when he arrived, too, because they knew what was coming.
You don't see that kind of behavior from a president very often, and it is actually nice to see.
ak kamara
Well, before we started the show, we watched the clip of him in the White House.
It's like a six-minute clip.
And it's funny because he even asks him, he's like, so what do you think?
And then the president's like, you'll find out from having people here, people that are in my cabinet.
And then President Trump's like, well, actually, and you can see Elon in the back looking over his shoulder, we got some video to play for you.
And then the president of South Africa, his face is just like...
Oh man, I am effed.
And I love that about Trump because he's like, hey, I'm going to give you a chance.
If he would have came out and said like, hey, we got some real issues.
But he knew he probably wasn't.
So he had everything queued up.
And that's just a boss move, man.
Trump's the man.
brett dasovic
Has this guy never seen a police procedural?
They always come in with the TV and they're like, actually, we have evidence right here.
phil labonte
Eric.
Erica's America says, Y 'all pour one out tonight for our rooster.
Not-so-mean Gene.
He protected his girls until the end.
He loved me, his favorite tender, and kept all the hens in line.
He was the best boy.
RIP Gene.
Condolences.
ak kamara
RIP.
phil labonte
Yeah, RIP.
Condolences, Erica's America.
Let's see.
Jacob Jones says, Kent State is refusing to remove a mural on campus of Trump's head on a pike because of free speech.
Well...
That seems like a bad idea.
raymond g stanley-jr
Is that calling for violence-ish?
phil labonte
I don't know if it's calling for violence.
It's definitely...
Yeah, I mean, look, the fact of the matter is, if it was anyone other than Donald Trump, there would be all kinds of outrage.
raymond g stanley-jr
True.
phil labonte
So, I mean, I don't know...
I don't know if there's going to be anything done of it, but I think that it's obvious that if it was any other politician, or definitely any politician on the left, politicians on the right, they would probably make the exception because that's just generally because we live in a leftist society, even though people don't realize it.
raymond g stanley-jr
If you're going to Kent State right now and you're watching the show, right next to that mural, go ahead and do one of your favorite leftist politician and see how that works.
ak kamara
Yeah, do it.
brett dasovic
With them right next to each other.
raymond g stanley-jr
Yeah, that's what I mean.
Right next to each other, literally.
ak kamara
This is art.
Yeah, I mean, listen, I'm not a free speech absolutist by any stretch of the imagination.
I think a bunch of speech should be censored, like porn and stuff like that.
But if someone wants to not specifically call out a threat that says, like, oh, I want this to be done to President Trump, I'm kind of like, it's stupid as long as it's not federal dollars going to it or anything like that.
And I guess, like, stupid college kids.
Make weird things imitating the president's death, I guess.
I mean, I think they should be ostracized and shamed.
I think that's pretty powerful.
People should say, like, what is wrong with you?
And when you apply to a job, it's like, oh, you're the guy that, like, fantasizes about killing the president?
Like, you're a weirdo.
You shouldn't work here.
phil labonte
Maybe the feds shouldn't give them any money.
That's some weird stuff, man.
ak kamara
If you're like, oh, what can I do?
Oh, I'm going to draw a grotesque.
Sculpture of the president being killed or whatever.
You're like, bro, you got some issues, man.
phil labonte
I don't think you should work here.
Most of your colleges get federal funding.
So, you know, if they're getting federal money and they're allowing that kind of speech, maybe they shouldn't get federal funding.
ak kamara
I'm for it, man.
phil labonte
There's no law that is being passed against the speech, but there's no reason why the feds have to give them money either.
A lot of things that the federal government funds come with string Yeah, Tim Wall sucks.
ak kamara
He's terrible.
He lies.
He is actually one of the people that I dislike the most in American politics.
And the reason why is because he will lie and create a version of himself to keep power in any way, shape or form.
You go back and you look at all the elections that he has won and he's been very successful.
Him losing on the ticket with Kamala Harris is the first political loss that he has suffered.
And it's because he lies all the time and he gets to the right.
I'm this affable guy.
The truth of the matter is Tim Walls will do whatever it takes to stay in power.
You cannot trust what he believes?
Because I actually don't know.
I think he's a leftist.
He loved Mao back in his college days when he was touring all over China.
But he's a terrible human being.
And the only way that he will lose power will be if the American people, and specifically the people in Minnesota...
Realize that he is a liar.
raymond g stanley-jr
I like him.
ak kamara
That's the only way that...
I know you like him because you want him to run for president.
raymond g stanley-jr
He knows how to talk to me.
He's one of the few politicians who knows how to talk to me as a white guy.
ak kamara
As a white guy.
With his jazz fingers.
phil labonte
Jacob Hawley says...
Our Congresswoman, Tammy Baldwin, is holding a town hall, and I S you not, she was complaining about no tax on tips bill and was telling her constituents how a smaller paycheck is actually better for workers, corporatists.
Is Tammy Baldwin a conservative or a Republican?
ak kamara
No, no, she's a Democrat.
Yeah, she's a senator.
She just won re-election in Wisconsin.
Eric Hovde ran against her.
phil labonte
It doesn't shock me that a Democrat wants to tax your tips.
raymond g stanley-jr
Isn't that Tammy Buckworth, the lady in the wheelchair?
Or no?
ak kamara
No, no, that's different.
raymond g stanley-jr
Okay, there's a couple Tammies out there.
ak kamara
There are a few Tammies, and they all suck.
Sorry if you're a Tammy on the right.
raymond g stanley-jr
This is my mom's name, bro.
ak kamara
Oh, man.
raymond g stanley-jr
Sorry, Mom.
ak kamara
Mad disrespect.
raymond g stanley-jr
Yeah.
She's dead now, so, but thanks.
ak kamara
R.I.P., man.
My mom, too.
phil labonte
R.I.P.
raymond g stanley-jr
back.
phil labonte
Let's see.
Concrete Haiti says, with all these countries refusing to take their criminals, I can't help but think about certain former world leaders who had a real solution to that problem, like Pinochet.
raymond g stanley-jr
Like Pinochet?
phil labonte
That wasn't a solution.
ak kamara
No, I mean, it was a type of solution, not one that people that want human decency...
phil labonte
That wasn't even, like...
That's a totally different context, so I don't know.
brett dasovic
You can really blame Pinochet for making sure that Pedro Pascal ended up an American citizen and now every time you have to see him in a movie, that's his fault.
raymond g stanley-jr
Like every movie.
Every major movie.
phil labonte
Pinochet's helicopter tour says, in a state like Massachusetts, I believe every penny stolen from taxpayers and spent on illegals should be taken out in property, destruction of homes, and property of prominent Democrats.
Man.
You people are just vicious tonight.
I disavow.
raymond g stanley-jr
He actually is OG, too, man.
He's been here for a minute.
phil labonte
Disavow.
I'm going to get away from the rumble rants because you guys are just wiling over there.
raymond g stanley-jr
Oh, that's what's...
Okay.
brett dasovic
Makes sense.
phil labonte
Kane Abel says, We are not going to war with South Africa.
We are letting asylum seekers into our country.
Also, it is in America's interest to bring farmers to the USA that know how to farm.
I don't know that we were...
Discussing going to war with South Africa?
I agree with you.
We're not going to war with South Africa.
I don't see a reason to go to war with South Africa.
They don't actually threaten the United States.
brett dasovic
Imagine how terrifying that would be if you're the president of South Africa and Trump turns and goes, look, we don't want to go to war with you!
ak kamara
Whoa, that was on the table?
See, I was raised in Devil's Lake, North Dakota, and so we actually had a lot of South African migrant farmers to become and they would help during the harvest season and then they'd go back and some of them stayed.
You'll run into a lot of them in North Dakota.
Listen, I'm still, as an America First guy, I want Americans to have jobs.
I don't believe in just trying to bring in people to fill in the gaps.
But if we do bring people, and they are asylum seekers, and I do think that the South Africans do fall under this, the Africaneers, or however you pronounce it, I'm cool with it.
But as long as we're like, let's have some bounds and some limitations.
We've got to make sure that Americans are able to work.
As long as we can do that, then yeah, man, we can walk and chew gum at the same time.
raymond g stanley-jr
Yeah, bro.
phil labonte
Danny Archer says, Just an FYI, white South African soldiers were hired as mercenaries in Sierra Leone to get rid of the communists.
Imagine what would have happened if they decided what was going on in Sierra Leone wasn't in their interest.
Look, man, to be flat out honest with you, I'm not totally, I'm not very well versed on what happened in Sierra Leone or the politics of Sierra Leone.
But I like the idea of not having communists.
serge du preez
Yeah, it happened as well in Angola, and a lot of my family was involved in that.
A lot of my family friends were involved in Angola, which was just basically Cuba and communists taking over another country in Africa, exactly like you were saying, AK.
It's the same thing.
And they were basically hired as mercenaries by Sierra Leone to go up there and fight commies again, which is something that we've done for a long time in the 90s because of apartheid.
It's apartheid.
Again, not apartheid.
It's apartheid.
They didn't want to support us, so we built a lot of stuff.
We built the MRIP, which became the de facto vehicle for Afghanistan for IEDs, because America wouldn't help us build stuff.
They wouldn't give us any of their tech, so South Africans built a lot of our own stuff.
But yeah, that's true.
I'm surprised Danny knows this CLP.
unidentified
I don't know.
serge du preez
What is CLP?
It's the money he's gave here, but yeah.
Donkey, man.
phil labonte
Thanks, man.
ak kamara
Sweet.
phil labonte
Remember, the Quantum Strange Quark says, remember when the Bosnian genocide took place in 92 to 95 and the officials kept denying it?
Same energy here.
Deny, deny, deny.
That's fairly standard when it comes to a government targeting some of its people.
I mean, I'm pretty sure that China denies that there's any kind of abuse of Uyghurs.
ak kamara
Oh, yeah, 100%.
Like, to this day, they're like, oh, you know.
We're helping assimilate them into Chinese culture because they've got these weird beliefs being Uyghurs.
But for the United States, was that what the Super Chat was about?
Or was it about South Africa denying?
Or was it about the United States denying it?
phil labonte
Bosnia.
During the 90s.
raymond g stanley-jr
Albanians and all those guys?
ak kamara
Yeah, but that's what I'm wondering though.
Are they saying that United States officials denied it?
phil labonte
He says, remember when the Bosnian genocide took place in 92 to 95 and the officials kept denying it?
Same energy here.
And he's referring to the South African government denying, denying, denying.
That's how I understood it.
raymond g stanley-jr
I went there in 98 in the Marine Corps and it was just crazy.
There was no windows anywhere.
All the buildings where I was in Kosovo, everything's blown up.
It was a weird place, and everyone had a satellite dish on their roof.
It was weird, but they had no windows, and it was freaking cold out.
It was just a crazy time.
phil labonte
Ian Kenny says, Raymond G. Stanley Jr., do you still watch ABL?
You should get him on the show for an episode.
raymond g stanley-jr
I haven't watched him in a minute, man.
I love ABL.
I'm a big fan of Anthony Brian Logan, by the way.
That's his name.
He's on YouTube.
I used to watch him and rock out on Saturday nights in the chat.
So, yeah, I think he's a great recommendation.
He's definitely America dude.
He's part of Brexit for America, or Blackset, I guess, with Candace Owens and them.
Yeah, ABL's solid.
I agree.
phil labonte
Lisa, if you're listening, send her a message in Slack.
raymond g stanley-jr
I will.
phil labonte
Isaac Vanderbilt says, all of my blue-collar job places have been filled with non-English-speaking visa workers.
Removing the illegals is not enough.
They're destroying unions.
Look, man, I think that anybody that hires an illegal immigrant, they should lose their business if it's found that they intentionally hire illegals.
And honestly, if any unions allow illegals in, the union should be disbanded.
Any, in my opinion.
Like, I'm not a fan of unions at all.
What?
raymond g stanley-jr
I mean, I feel like that'd be impossible.
phil labonte
Why?
raymond g stanley-jr
I don't know.
Unions are super strong, no matter what they are.
phil labonte
I mean, unions definitely have a lot of influence in D.C. because they're, you know, just corrupt machines.
Yeah, yeah.
But yeah, like, look, the point is, if you are breaking, you know, immigration law, there has to be significant ramifications for it.
That's part one.
And part two is, if illegal immigrants can't get work because they won't be hired by a business or they can't get into unions, those kind of things, any kind of obstacles that we can erect to prevent illegal immigrants from finding work is also a deterrent for more illegals to come here.
ak kamara
Yeah, and I think specifically the Super Chat was about visas that were handed out to nine...
English speaking, because he said going after illegals isn't enough.
Now, I do agree that when we look at taking people into this country, we should have criteria that make sense, right?
Like, highly skilled.
If we're looking at labor jobs for the specific purpose of like, oh, we just want to have someone that will come here to fill the grunt work, I still think that there's a lot of Americans.
I think that...
It's been debunked a bunch of times even though it's like the conventional wisdom.
Americans won't do these jobs.
It's like 100% they will do these jobs.
And they'll do a lot of them.
It's just that ultimately it's not marketed that way.
And the truth of the matter is that the majority of these visas that are given out are given out on...
You know, temporary basis, which is a problem with this mass asylees that were being assigned under the Biden administration, when they're like, yep, all the Venezuelans get temporary work visas.
Like, they shouldn't have been given, A, the temporary status, and B, should not have been given those temporary visas.
And I think that it's a worthwhile discussion about how many we let in.
I think all of that should be on the table.
But to your point, Phil, yeah.
E-Verify, man, we've had it on the books forever.
We just need to start enforcing that.
Getting those people that are hiring illegals, they need to be punished too, man.
Like, yes, go after the criminal aliens, but any of the institutions that are propping them up, go after them as well.
raymond g stanley-jr
A.k.a.
no American that I know of is going to be going to Southern California and Oxnard, Ventura County, Oxnard area is going to be out there and picking strawberries 12 hours a day.
I cannot imagine an American doing that.
ak kamara
And here's what I'll say is that...
If you set a standard where you're like, yeah, no Americans are going to do it.
Well, if you want to have a job and let's say that there's minimum work requirements, you're going to take a job.
So this is one of the things that is being discussed right now.
Having work requirements for able-bodied adults, right?
raymond g stanley-jr
If they get health insurance, they might do it.
ak kamara
Right.
But that's my point.
So the problem is that people will have this idea like, oh, I would never do that job.
Listen, man, if you build an infrastructure and more specifically a culture around it, people will do it.
In my hometown, Devil's Lake, North Dakota, there are people that are working at jobs that are making $16, $17, $18 an hour.
But the cost of living in rural North Dakota is significantly lower and they're able to live a decent life.
So there's plenty of jobs like that that exist.
But I agree that...
It's going to take, there's a curve.
Like right now, today, could you get a bunch of people there?
Probably not.
But if you're like, hey, this is the truth.
We need to have people here, so we have to incentivize and grow infrastructure around it.
If you're a company that grows strawberries and you want to attract people to pick your strawberries, you've got to do some things to incentivize them to come and do it.
But I think that they eventually would do it.
It's just you have to create an incentive and a structure for them.
serge du preez
There's no incentive as well to, like, because strawberries and fruit like that are really difficult to, like, because this is why they don't have, like, mechanized.
People often ask me, like, why aren't there mechanized systems for it?
Strawberries bruise really easily.
I didn't grow strawberries in my life, but they bruise easily.
That's why they have hand pickers for anything that's hand picked usually.
But the problem is there's no incentive for people to go and make a robotic solution to this, to make a mechanized solution for this.
And, you know, there's a cool question about whether that's taking away labor for people trusting my families in farming.
I understand the whole issue with mechanizing farming.
But in this specific instance where it's really labor intensive, there's no pressure to, like, modernize it in any way at all.
And that can be so easily done.
It's picking strawberries.
I mean, come on.
Like, we can mechanize crazy stuff and we can't do strawberries.
The only people that will tell you that is people that want to pay royalties.
Those are the people that will tell you, oh, we can't do this.
It's just the same crap we've heard a thousand times of with all the robber barons from 100 years ago.
phil labonte
Druish AF of Christendom says, Brett and Phil cast my favorite dudes for DaGongo.
Yes, there is a female genocide in DaGongo and we need to raise awareness.
brett dasovic
That's where we're going to ship all of the...
Illegal immigrants who committed crimes.
phil labonte
So they can commit crimes in the gongo?
unidentified
I thought we were trying to save the gongo.
brett dasovic
We'll have an open-air prison out there.
phil labonte
There you go.
They're going to be picking strawberries in the gongo.
Picking strawberries in the gongo.
Alright, perfect.
Dylan Brown says, feminism is destroying men's confidence.
You can ask to buy a woman a drink without being called a creep.
I think he's meant you can't ask to buy a woman a drink without being called a creep.
Then when women get hurt, bad guys.
Well, then when women get hurt by bad guys.
I'm not sure if that was supposed to go longer or whatever.
But yeah, I mean, look, there is a degree of truth to that.
The cost of a man asking a woman out is significantly higher now.
Women will, you know, women could, not will, but could, you know, do more than just say no and bruise your feelings.
Like, they could say, oh, he was creepy, he was weird, you know, they might put it on the internet, blah, blah, blah.
So it is, but still, like, fortune favors the brave, right?
Like, you do have to, you know, put yourself out there in...
Pretty much every context if you want to be successful, whether it be making music that people want to check out.
You have to put music out there and risk people telling you.
Actually, guarantee that people are going to tell you it's bad because the first stuff that you put out isn't going to be great.
So yeah, you do have to take that kind of risk.
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On the Uncensored After Show tonight, we are going to be talking about a New York Post piece that says, the headline is, Biden officials knew about potential COVID-19 vaccine risks and took steps to downplay them, scathing Senate report.
Now, we can't talk about this because YouTube is still very sensitive about these things, but we're going to get into it on the After Show.
So if you join, become a member on Rumble, join Rumble, you can watch the After Show.
But that's going to...
We'll wrap it up for us.
AK, do you have anything you want to shout out?
ak kamara
Yeah.
Follow me on XRealAKKamara over on the Chinese spy rap known as TikTok at AKKamara.
Want to shout out The Fall of Minneapolis.
This was an amazing documentary.
For those of you that haven't watched it, there's been a lot of news recently that there's a potentiality that President Trump could pardon Derek Chauvin and the other officers involved.
So go and watch that movie.
Also want to give a shout out to Hotep Jesus for even getting me connected with people.
And shout-out to all of you in this room because, you know, this has been a fantastic time.
I've been a fan of the show, like, quite literally.
I'm in the Discord and everything like that.
I'm just not super active.
And this is fantastic, man.
I loved it.
So, yeah, shout-out to all of you.
phil labonte
Awesome.
raymond g stanley-jr
I had a blast, too, with you here, sir.
Always a good time.
Always a good time with yourself when I meet you.
These two gentlemen, and search, press the buttons.
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Follow me anywhere in the world.
Under Raymond G. Stanley Jr., I planted trees.
Like I told you, great men do things like that.
Brett?
brett dasovic
Guys, if you want to follow me, I'm on Instagram and on Twix, at Brett Dasvick on both of those platforms.
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See you there.
phil labonte
I am Phil that remains on Twix.
I'm Phil that remains official on Instagram.
Today, my good friend Nick Nocturnal released a song that I performed with him.
The song is called Scarlet.
You can check it out on the whole internet.
His name is Nick Nocturnal.
You can search Spotify, and I think it comes up when you search All That Remains.
But yeah, Nick Nocturnal, the song is called Scarlet.
Go check that out.
You can check out my band's new record called Anti-Fragile on Spotify, Apple Music, Pandora, the And stick around for that after show.
We will see you tomorrow.
unidentified
tomorrow.
Thank you.
phil labonte
The New York Post is reporting Biden officials knew about potential COVID-19 vaccine risks and took steps to downplay them, scathing Senate reports says.
Top federal health officials actively took steps to delay warning the public for months in 2021 about the potential risks of heart-related complications from receiving mRNA COVID-19 vaccinations.
A scathing interim report from Senator Ron Johnson's office alleges.
Starting in February 2021, federal health agencies had been alerted to large reports of myocarditis in young people who received the Pfizer vaccine, but waited until late June that year to adjust the vaccine labels to make that side effect known.
Even though CDC and FDA officials were well aware of the risk of myocarditis following COVID-19 vaccination, The Biden administration opted to withhold, issuing a formal warning to the public for months about the safety concerns, jeopardizing the health of young Americans, the 54-page interim report said.
Myocarditis is an inflammatory condition of the heart muscle, while pericarditis entails the inflammation of the lining sac around the heart.
Myopericarditis is a combination of the two ailments.
Most patients who suffer from these side effects eventually experience resolution of symptoms, according to the Center for Disease Control and Prevention.
Well, thank God they cleared that up.
Due to the time it took health officials to adjust the labels, doctors who warned about the potential risks of myocarditis among those who took the vaccine were subject to censorship, suppression, or accusations of peddling misinformation.
Now, this is something that actually, I mean, around here, It's not a surprise because this is kind of common knowledge.
You know, everyone in this space, you know, in the kind of alternative media space, everyone is like, well, yeah, I mean, this is something that we've known about.
But it is worth pointing out that for your average normie, you know, the person that has a 30 to 45 minute news diet per week.
This is news.
And they didn't believe, you know, if they did hear these stories, they didn't believe them.
serge du preez
Yo, shout out to my fellow purebloods real quick.
unidentified
Purebloods!
ak kamara
So here's what's funny.
So myself and my wife, both of us, when the vaxxers first came out, I did a bunch of studies.
Like, I read a bunch of studies.
I saw what the upside and downside...
The thing that caught me, I've had, and I do have some medical issues, and more specifically...
My mother at the time was in a nursing home, and I knew that they were going to be like, you can't see your mom unless you're vaxxed or whatever.
And so after doing the research, I didn't feel pressured.
I was like, you know what?
We're going to do the mRNA.
Because I thought the idea of using genetic manipulation to basically get your body to do these things could lead to some really good things.
I know some people want to poo-poo mRNA altogether, the technology.
I'm not that guy.
I think that the technology is amazing of what the potentiality could be.
However, I knew that when I took it, I knew that there were already studies out that showed that these are potential things that it could damage the heart muscles.
I already knew that.
But I do agree with you that most people didn't.
Because why?
What's the phrase?
Safe and effective.
Safe and effective.
Your heart suddenly stopping because of myocarditis or pericarditis sounds safe or effective.
It sure doesn't.
So yeah, this red pilling feels almost by design because it's so far removed, a lot of people kind of forgot.
And especially the normies that have moved on with their life, they might see a headline like this, but it's not going to be talked about on a large scale.
And this is what they do as a control, not to be conspiratorial.
But if you, on the back end, cover yourself by saying, oh, we told you.
No, read the fine print.
It's in there.
Yeah, I mean, moderating your...
phil labonte
Even if you think something like Peter McCullough was saying, if you think everyone's going to kick off, you might want to be like, look, man, there's a chance.
ak kamara
Yeah.
phil labonte
As opposed to being like, this is going to happen.
You're all done for.
I think moderation is probably good when it comes to catastrophic predictions.
Be like, look, there's a chance of catastrophic results.
ak kamara
There's a chance.
phil labonte
You know, maybe.
ak kamara
I do feel bad, though, for all the people that were fooled, bamboozled, didn't understand what the risks were.
But I think that that was a calculation.
Like, I honestly think that there are government officials that are like, we know that it's this.
We don't care.
Oh, yeah.
We don't have to deal with the consequences anyways.
American people don't have the appetite to lock us up.
But that's also why I do think that we do need to have – I know people said like a Nuremberg-style trial.
But like we need to have accountability for people of who – what did they know?
When did they know it?
And should they be criminally liable?
And I think the answer is yes.
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