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May 20, 2025 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Biden CANCER COVER UP, Biggest SCANDAL In US History, Trump DEMANDS Answers | Timcast IRL
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tim pool
This is the biggest scandal in U.S. history.
I think it's fair to say.
Now, obviously, that's my opinion, but usually when you ask people that they say things like Watergate.
We've gone well beyond that.
We've had the president be accused of being a Russian spy, but now we have this.
The entirety of the corporate news establishment, the White House administration, the entirety of a political wing, one of the largest political parties in this country, all lying about the medical condition.
of a sitting president at the time, Joe Biden.
They likely lied about him having cancer before he got in.
They lied about him having it while he was in.
You may have an administration that does something wrong.
have an administration in the past that lied.
Here we have not just a single administration, but the entirety of a political apparatus and the media and big tech all working to cover up what was plain for the average person to see why.
Unfortunately for us, there are a lot of people in this country that don't pay attention to news and don't watch the source material.
So those that were paying attention, it was painfully obvious.
Joe Biden was sick in some way.
In fact, there was a video from 2022 where Joe Biden says explicitly that he has cancer.
And the media came out and said, no, no, no.
He was referring to non-melanoma skin lesions.
Right.
The story he told about environmental toxins was about his skin lesions.
That was a lie, and we all know it.
And they're still trying to push this lie.
Donald Trump has come out asking about who knew about this and when do they know about it?
Because Biden has what's called a Gleason score of nine, which is considered an extremely aggressive form of cancer.
It is metastasized to his bones.
This is not something that just happens over the course of 100 or so days.
This is not something that they just found accidentally or in a routine search just now.
A president undergoing routine physicals, they would have found this a long time ago.
And don't take my word for it.
Tons of doctors have popped up, dozens.
Famous, well-known medical doctors expressing their disbelief over the story that has been put forward.
We'll talk about that, but we also have the Biden Hurt tapes who came out last week compounding the issue.
Who signed these documents?
Did they use Autopen because Biden was incapable of actually signing these documents?
And just how bad was it?
And there's a question about whether or not...
Some of the actions of Joe Biden may be voided.
We'll talk about that.
Plus, we've got a bunch of other news stories, of course.
Kash Patel and Dan Bongino under—well, they're getting a lot of flack for saying that Epstein took his own life.
That's what they claimed, and we'll talk about that, as well as an update to the James Comey story and many others.
We've got video and stories, the story about that Mexican vessel that crashed into the Brooklyn Bridge.
Ladies and gentlemen, this is a wild news day.
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and everything else is David Harris Jr.
unidentified
My man.
Honored to be here, Tim.
tim pool
Likewise.
Honored to have you.
Who are you?
unidentified
What do you do?
I've been shredding the narrative against liberal lies since Trump came down the escalator.
Right after the third debate between Trump and Hillary, I hopped on Facebook.
I didn't have a...
I didn't have a platform at all.
I had maybe a thousand or so friends.
And I just poured my heart out, man, as to what I felt was at stake during that election between Trump and Hillary.
And I shared as a Christian, as a husband, married 31 years now, my high school sweetheart.
But as a Christian, as a husband, as a father, two daughters and now two grandbabies.
As a business owner, I started my first company when I was 20. And then as a member of the black community, and it's in that order for me.
I shared why I felt that we needed to support Trump and not Hillary.
It was a long video.
It was like 14 minutes.
And the thing went viral.
It went to over like 400,000 views with literally no platform.
And I had a lot of messages from people that just said that, you know, they were Democrats, their whole family were Democrats, and they were going to vote for Hillary.
Until they watched my video.
And then they said they were going to vote for Trump.
Wow.
So I just kept making videos, brother.
Kept making videos.
Kept trying to wake people up.
tim pool
Now you got your own show?
unidentified
Newsmax.
Yeah, I got a Newsmax show.
I actually have a fill-in right now because 8 p.m.
Monday through Friday is my slot.
So I took the day off so I could be here.
tim pool
Oh, man, we got you.
unidentified
Yep.
shane cashman
Oh, I appreciate that as well.
unidentified
Yep, via the app.
Newsmax app on your TV phone, whatever, 8 p.m.
Monday through Friday for an hour, and then they play the best of my show segments on Newsmax Cable on Saturday and Sunday nights.
tim pool
Right on, man.
Thanks for hanging out.
unidentified
Absolutely.
tim pool
It's going to be a blast.
We've got Shane hanging out.
shane cashman
What's up?
I am Shane Cashman, host of Inverted World Live.
Last night I detailed how the Silicon Valley vampires are building a surveillance state, and it's coming for you, Phil.
phil labonte
Specifically me?
shane cashman
Just for you.
phil labonte
They said my name?
shane cashman
It's just you.
phil labonte
I'm so honored.
Hello, everybody.
My name is Phil Labonte.
I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band, All That Remains.
I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.
Let's get into it.
tim pool
Here's a story we got from the New York Post.
Doctor who worked with Biden says he had cancer while he was president.
He did not develop it in the last 100 to 200 days.
In fact, he went on.
Quote, he had it while he was president.
He probably had it at the start of his presidency in 2021.
Yes, I don't think there's any disagreement about that.
Now, Donald Trump has issued a statement, and he came out questioning the Gleason score of 9, which is aggressive.
I talked to Dr. Drew today, and Dr. Drew and a bunch of other prominent medical doctors have been coming up making statements about this, and he made it clear.
This is a guy who has prostate cancer himself, Dr. Drew, and who treats it and diagnoses it, and he said, there's no chance, there's no chance that...
They were doing a routine exam and found that he had stage 4 terminal prostate cancer metastasized to the bone.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
That's insane.
Let's pull up this clip from Trump real quick and hear what he had to say.
donald j trump
Everybody, but it's given just about.
And it takes a long time to get to that situation.
Now, I think, you know, to get to stage 9, I think that if you take a look, it's the same doctor that said that Joe was cognitively fine.
There was nothing wrong with him.
Well, he said...
If it's the same doctor who said there was nothing wrong there, and that's being proven to be a sad situation.
And the auto pen is becoming a very big deal.
You know, the auto pen is becoming a big deal because it seems like that maybe was the president who ever operated the auto pen.
But when they say that that was not good, they also, you know, you have to look and you have to say that the test was not so good either.
In other words, there are things going on that...
The public wasn't informed.
And I think somebody's going to have to speak to his doctor if it's the same or even if it's two separate doctors.
Why wasn't the cognitive ability, why wasn't that discussed?
And I think the doctor said he's just fine and it's turned out to everybody.
tim pool
I think we need committees.
We need the Biden Infirmity Committee to start issuing subpoenas to all the people in the administration and even some journalists.
I'm not saying criminal charges for journalists calm down liberals.
I'm saying journalists should be subpoenaed to answer questions about what they knew behind the scenes and what they were choosing to report.
Because people like Jake Tapper who come out now with this book, oh yeah, he was impaired, but the whole time during the administration he kept defending Joe Biden.
I'd like to know who their sources were and what they actually knew.
Because as Trump points out, As everybody else pointing out, this is not something Biden just got recently.
He's had this for years.
So dare I say, when big tech, the corporate press, and the entire political party, and the White House, everybody was covering this up, it's the biggest scandal in U.S. history.
unidentified
100%.
phil labonte
You know, when Dan Boncino had his show going, he would say regularly, and he would tweet this out regularly, it's whatever the date is, and Joe Biden is the worst president in American history.
And now it's May.
We're not even six months.
Since Joe Biden left office, and it's become abundantly clear that not only was Dan Bongino right, Joe Biden had likely the most corrupt and dishonest presidency in American history, whether it be hiding his own ability to do the job because he was clearly incapacitated because of, you know, whether it be sundowners or dementia or whatever, some cognitive impairment.
The diagnosis that has been announced today, everybody that was close to him had to have known about it.
It wasn't hidden.
You know, you get these diagnoses and...
It's not, you know, it's not, oh, hey, it just happened now.
The way that his family...
Parading him around.
Yeah, parading him around, but the corruption his brother, the way that he was protecting his son, the likely payola that his son was involved in, picking up bags of cash from Ukraine, bags of cash from China.
The Joe Biden administration, and that's just the Biden administration, never mind the surrounding apparatus, never mind the administration, never mind the media that was actually involved in the cover-up.
It wasn't just like, oh, we missed it, like Jake Tapper tries to pass off.
They were actively involved in covering this up.
shane cashman
This was Woodrow Wilson administration on steroids.
phil labonte
Yeah, absolutely.
shane cashman
Because he was incapacitated for a while.
His wife took over.
But Biden's whole time was like that, you know?
And like FDR, they covered up his legs for a long time and they would chase down journalists if they were going to write something about his faulty legs.
tim pool
And that is crazy too.
shane cashman
Yeah.
tim pool
But those are legs.
Yeah.
shane cashman
Joe Biden's brain worked as well as FDR's legs.
tim pool
But brain substantially, you know, if they had told the American people that his legs didn't work but don't worry, he's of sound mind.
unidentified
Oh, they would have kept running.
tim pool
Yeah, I think they'd lose too much in the polls to win.
We wouldn't be in a conversation like this if it was like Biden's legs didn't work.
We'd be like, oh, that's really, really sad.
But, you know, he's giving orders.
Is he of sound mind?
No.
And the fact of the matter is, Biden's legs do work.
Not particularly well, but they do.
And we don't care if they do.
We care that his brain didn't work.
And they were covering up that he's got advanced, he's got terminal diagnosis.
Now, I want to add this to the story.
And the first thing I want to say is, I don't know if the right word is for this, but I'm sorry to hear about Scott Adams.
And his diagnosis for prostate cancer as well, he mentioned that he has metastasis to the bone as well, and he's given himself months to live.
And so, you know, I'm sorry to hear.
I don't like hearing anybody is sick or dying, and even if it is Joe Biden, right?
Yeah.
But Scott's insight on this, it's really – it's fascinating.
I don't know.
I wanted to make sure we got in that – Mention of Scott Adams going through this as well is a big story, and it is sad because we're dealing with, you know, cancer is a scary thing.
But the Biden administration actively covering up, I don't know.
I don't want to, I guess, conflate the failures of Biden with me giving my condolences to Scott Adams.
I'll just pause there.
shane cashman
Scott distilled reality into the greatest quote with the two movies, one screen.
And that is like Biden, because there's half the country seeing a viable living human.
tim pool
Thank you.
You saved me.
I was trying to draw that contrast of a man of sound mind who was undergoing this, and then I kind of felt I don't want to conflate the two things necessarily.
I want to, you know.
But that's the point.
There's another individual who's been in the space, who's been an advocate, and who's called out the lies, and he's dealing with as well.
But you can see that the diagnosis isn't the issue.
It's the ability of mind and whether or not the person is capable of doing the job.
And Scott Adams seems to have had no problem.
Distilling truth facts and calling out lies while dealing with this condition for a long time.
unidentified
Well, and I'm curious, too, if Biden has had this for so long, for years, it sounds like he's been dealing with this, did they just, like, not go put him into treatment because they were trying to continue to put him in front of the American people long enough to try to either get him across the finish line three months prior?
They're like, okay, you're not going to make it.
We've got to put Kamala in, but we still need you healthy at least to try to help Kamala.
None of it worked.
shane cashman
Dude, why do you think he campaigned from a basement?
I think he knew for a long time.
unidentified
I'm sure he knew.
shane cashman
And they were probably giving him treatment.
unidentified
They weren't giving him treatment for it.
shane cashman
I think they were, and they were weaning him off.
tim pool
No, no, no, no, no.
I think you're right.
I talked to Dr. Drew about this, and I'll tell you what he said, but first I want to play this clip for you.
joe biden
And because it was a four-lane highway that was accessible, my mother drove us, and rather than us be able to walk.
And guess what?
The first frost, you know what was happening.
You had to put on your windshield wipers to get literally the oil slick off the window.
That's why I and so damn many other people I grew up have cancer.
And why can't for the longest time Delaware had the highest cancer rate in the nation.
tim pool
That wasn't a slip of the tongue.
unidentified
No.
joe biden
Windshield wipers to get literally the oil slick off the window.
That's why I and so damn many other people I grew up have cancer.
tim pool
Now they claimed at the time skin lesions.
That's what he was talking about.
The first thing I thought, he was talking about oil slicks on the windshield.
Nobody who gets skin lesions goes, oh, it's the oil slicks on the windshield.
So I talked with Dr. Drew earlier today.
You just made a point about denying him the treatment.
And what Dr. Drew brought up is the possibility that they intentionally withheld treatment because the treatment for prostate cancer is, I forgot the terminology, but it is effectively stopping androgens.
He said in the past, they'd literally just castrate men to slow the progress of the cancer.
Now they do things like Lupron, which will inhibit androgens and slow the progress.
However, it will impair you cognitively.
And so it may be that they knew he had cancer, and there are concerns about if we give him this treatment and he's already showing signs of Parkinsonism, you'll make it substantially worse.
unidentified
And wasn't that video around the same time of the Ben-Hur interview?
tim pool
I think this was 2022.
Ben-Hur was, I think, was it 23?
shane cashman
Is this from when the ship hit the bridge?
tim pool
I don't think so.
shane cashman
Oh, I thought it was.
unidentified
No, that was 22, I know.
So all I'm saying is, because the her, he was talking and rambling then as well.
I couldn't remember when his son died, and he's kind of rambling now.
It's the same kind of ramble that's taking place, and he's just kind of willingly, oh yeah, and I've got cancer, throwing it out there.
I remember posting that on Facebook, and I'm pretty sure I got hit with a fake news strike, like, oh no, he didn't say he had cancer.
It's not what he meant.
It's what he said.
tim pool
What's funny is that he lies so much about his life and the things that he's done that some actually could have entertained the fact that he was saying, I have cancer, as a lie for sympathy.
You know, so many people affected by the pollution.
unidentified
Now we know he had it.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
So he wasn't lying.
He was spilling the beans on accident.
tim pool
I think he's got every disease.
Every single one of them.
shane cashman
He sounds like it.
tim pool
Yeah.
It's like Mr. Burns when he has the oversized novelty germs.
Because, you know, Dr. Drew says he has Parkinsonism, which is the hands are shaking, the face is masked, droopy.
What did he call it?
I forgot what he...
He described what you think.
He's a doctor.
I'm not a doctor.
He's got all these medical terms.
But he knows more about this than I do, but he basically laid it all out that we don't know why he was suffering these symptoms.
Maybe it was Parkinson's.
Maybe it was age-related.
His doctor certainly knows.
So we need those answers.
And then you combine that with the fact that the dude clearly has cancer.
I wonder if, you know, what he also mentioned was really fascinating.
One of the side effects of treatment for prostate cancer is falling, muscle atrophy, diminished cognition.
unidentified
Maybe he was getting treated.
That's right.
Or the other reason why his mind was so gone, he couldn't walk upstairs, couldn't ride a bicycle, couldn't stop on a bicycle.
phil labonte
Anti-androgens is what he was saying?
Yes.
Anti-androgens.
tim pool
So, I had another thought.
You guys remember back in the end of the Trump term, the first term?
Nancy Pelosi put together that committee, the 25th Amendment Committee through Congress.
And at first, everybody said, she's trying to create a way to get rid of Trump.
And then there was kind of like 30 minutes of that.
Then everyone went, nah, she's talking about Joe Biden.
unidentified
Yeah, I remember that.
tim pool
This was before he got elected.
unidentified
Yeah, it was.
tim pool
She knew.
That's right.
unidentified
I bet they all knew.
But they didn't have a better candidate at that point.
tim pool
Exactly.
You know what I think?
I think they knew that he was terminal.
I think they had a meeting and said, what if we lose Congress?
Would Kamala Harris actually invoke the 25th and get rid of this guy?
Would we actually be able to get it through Congress?
Nope.
Republicans are going to be like, nah, we're not getting out of this one.
You're going to rock this bad presidency.
So she took action while they still had a majority and wanted to make sure she could to create this 25th Amendment committee so that they had an independent board that could remove Joe Biden when they felt necessary.
But it also is about what information they want to give out.
I think the play was Joe Biden gets in.
He dies.
Kamala Harris becomes president.
unidentified
Dies or has to step down because he's got cancer.
Either one.
But I think that was 100%.
I think that was the play as well.
That was their goal.
That was their endgame.
And again, the auto pin proves that he's a puppet the whole time.
That's where it's scary.
Somebody else was running the country.
Not Joe.
Not even Kamala at that point.
I think during any point.
I think that's what we really need to find out is who was the one behind.
Joe that was actually making the decisions for our country.
Because it wasn't Joe.
That was our goal.
Get Joe across the finish line.
And when they saw that wasn't going to work, let's throw Kamali in at the last minute.
Give her all the money in the war chest.
She got his VP on the ticket.
tim pool
Maybe they really thought that women of color, regardless of personality, could win.
unidentified
They did that with Obama, though.
So many.
I got blasted by...
I'm half black.
My dad's side is black.
My mom's side is white.
And so my mom always said I got the best of both worlds.
And I believe I do.
My dad's side of my family, so many of them voted for Barack because he was black, as did so many of the black community.
I did not because of the issue of abortion.
I said, I don't care what color he is.
He voted against a bill that would provide medical treatment to babies that survived abortion, and he voted in favor of partial birth abortion.
I don't care what color this guy is.
He's not getting my vote.
But the black vote did overwhelmingly go to Obama, and I think the white sympathizers were like, oh, a black president would be great, and he sounds great, and everything else.
I don't think it worked.
It didn't work with Kamala.
It didn't have the same effect.
tim pool
I had a friend in Chicago, and this is back when Obama was running, and he was black.
We were skating.
We were hanging out.
And his grandmother, she was like, are you going to vote for Obama?
And he's like, I don't know.
She was like, you have to.
He could be the first black president.
And he goes, does that mean he's going to be a good president?
unidentified
Exactly.
tim pool
And I was like, damn.
I was like.
unidentified
Exactly.
tim pool
We didn't say bass back then, but he hit the nail on the head with the hammer.
unidentified
I wrote that in my book.
I'm working on my book.
tim pool
I still voted for Obama, though.
unidentified
I did not.
I wrote about that in my book, that when I still remember where I was at, I was in a pub in Laguna Beach.
And I was watching the TV and it came across.
Barack Obama has been elected president of the United States.
And what I felt inside was so weird because I felt excited or thankful, I guess, appreciative that a black man became president.
But then it was overwhelming.
I was overwhelmed with just apathy, just a darkness, a kind of depression, feeling like this guy is not going to represent the black community well.
tim pool
Let's jump to this next story.
From Axios.
It's actually from last week, and I think you guys probably already talked about it, but we've got this.
Check this out.
Prosecutors' audio shows Biden's memory lapses.
Now, in this video that Axios put out, I got questions about why Axios, who called out at the White House correspondence at dinner that they missed the Joe Biden story of his cognitive issues, now has audio leaked to them somehow of this interview with her, and Biden struggles to remember anything.
unidentified
So during this time, we were living in Chambers Road, and there were documents related to the Penn-Biden Center or the Bison or the cancer from your shot or your book.
Where did you keep papers that related to those things that you were actively working I don't know.
joe biden
This is, what, 2017, 18?
tim pool
All right, so I'm going to pause it there.
You get the general idea.
We don't know four minutes of him stuttering, confused.
He then goes on to bring up his son.
Now, the reason I played this video, because you compound this with the cancer story, and we have a very, very serious question of the...
Let me put it this way.
When I was talking to Dr. Drew earlier, I asked him...
If there was any combination of these elements that would say, void a contract that he signed.
You know, if you show up to a bank to get a loan and then it turns out you were whacked out on goofballs, you couldn't get that contract voided and say you were impaired.
You couldn't legally enter this contract.
Well, the question I have then is, could there have been any combination of medical drugs or diagnoses that he was suffering that would void the legal standing?
I think it should be void just for the pure fact that it was AutoPen.
I agree as well.
I think AutoPen should be illegal.
unidentified
Absolutely.
tim pool
And I think nobody should be using it.
I don't think it should ever be used again, and that should be banned.
But even outside of that, if they come out and say, who did this?
Let's say they do a hearing and say, Joe Biden, did you authorize these pardons?
And he goes, yes, I did, 100%.
The question should be like, okay, we want all information related to your state of mind, your medical diagnoses, and the medication you're taking to determine whether or not this is a legitimate order.
unidentified
Yeah, absolutely.
shane cashman
He was on some kind of medication.
Like, his face kept changing.
I remember he would balloon out.
He had the weird chins.
tim pool
He had the mash on his face.
It called sleep apnea.
unidentified
What about when he scratched his neck?
You saw the video, I'm sure, and it wrinkled like it was a mask on?
I know you've seen that.
shane cashman
Now we're talking.
tim pool
Now we're just talking about old guy's skin.
shane cashman
Or a guy in a mask.
Or a guy in a mask.
unidentified
It's got to be.
That was like a whole bunch of...
That was like a rubbery ripple.
tim pool
I know you've seen the video.
You think they got Mission Impossible masks?
unidentified
Of course they do.
Of course they do.
You've seen the CIA lady talk about it?
That said the CIA came to us in the 60s!
tim pool
Well, I gotta say, it is a fun idea, but I prefer the politically expedient Joe Biden was Joe Biden the whole time and incapable of doing the job.
shane cashman
It's hard to believe, but I see it.
unidentified
I still say go back to the impairment.
What was he on?
What drugs was he on?
What was he dealing with?
Absolutely.
shane cashman
Remember his teeth falling out?
tim pool
On stage during the debate.
shane cashman
On stage.
tim pool
This was 2019 or whatever.
shane cashman
He's been rotting for years.
tim pool
He turned around and you can see him doing something with his hand.
His teeth were falling out while he was talking.
unidentified
I think it's scary, the kind of stuff that is going to come out at some point.
tim pool
We all get old.
You know what I mean?
Your day will come.
You'll be in diapers.
I'll be in diapers.
Who knows what's going to happen?
unidentified
I ain't being in no diapers.
I haven't.
tim pool
Not happening.
I will say, I don't consider Joe Biden to be a guy who kind of takes care of himself.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Like so many Americans, so maybe it's just him was in the diaper.
unidentified
With the doctor as a wife, though, you'd think he'd take you very good care of.
tim pool
Yeah, how did Dr. Dr. Jill miss this?
unidentified
Yeah, exactly.
That's what I want to know.
phil labonte
There's a lot of people that are upset when you make their doctor joke.
They're like, you're messing up an MD with a PhD.
tim pool
Okay, I gotta stop.
I gotta stop.
Just because...
A lot of people may not know this.
I have to make sure everyone understands.
She's not even a PhD or an MD.
unidentified
Uh-uh.
tim pool
She has a, what is it, like a doctor?
unidentified
Doctorate in teaching or something?
tim pool
Yeah, an education.
unidentified
Education.
Doctorate in education.
tim pool
Which is, it means nothing.
shane cashman
The worst kind.
unidentified
Literally nothing.
tim pool
The worst kind.
unidentified
Unless you listen to Whoopi.
She's a doctor.
Right?
Doctor Jill.
Whoopi went off.
tim pool
Man, these people are dumb.
phil labonte
It's ridiculous.
unidentified
That's uncanny how close he looks to, what's the comedian?
That's got the puppet.
Yeah, what's his name?
The puppet.
They hand up the guy.
He's got the ornery guy.
What's his name?
phil labonte
I don't know.
unidentified
I can't think of his name, but he has Jose Jalapeno.
shane cashman
Yeah, he's got like the terrorist.
unidentified
He's got the terrorist.
Ahmed.
shane cashman
Ahmed, of course.
unidentified
Huh?
Yes, Jeff Dunham.
That is like spitting image of that dummy that Jeff Dunham uses.
phil labonte
But it's like the post-facelift Joe Biden that actually makes him look like that.
When you look at young Joe Biden, it doesn't look like.
He doesn't have that same kind of pulled, taut face.
shane cashman
Different Joe Biden.
phil labonte
It's post-facelift Joe Biden.
tim pool
Yeah, he's probably gotten surgeries.
shane cashman
Yeah, he's had a lot.
tim pool
I think the puppet you're referring to is Walter.
unidentified
Yeah, Walter.
tim pool
Is that the name of the puppet?
unidentified
Jeff Dunham.
Jeff Dunham, and I think it's Walter.
He's the old guy.
shane cashman
Both puppets?
unidentified
Both puppets.
But that is uncanny.
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
But Walter doesn't have it.
Let me pull it up.
unidentified
You see him?
phil labonte
That's funny.
tim pool
I'm trying to find a good picture to pull up.
Let's do this one.
It's probably going to be too small.
unidentified
That face is...
Whatever.
That's the face right there.
tim pool
He's got the face.
phil labonte
That's where he is.
Yeah.
tim pool
Google always turns back these tiny pictures.
You can't really see anything.
Walter?
phil labonte
That very pointy nose.
shane cashman
Can someone Photoshop Walter into the photo with the Bidens and the Carters?
tim pool
Or just Photoshop Biden's face onto Walter.
shane cashman
That's it.
tim pool
You know, and people are saying, don't be mean, he's got cancer, and it's like, well, then the Biden administration shouldn't have hunted down that old lady with cancer to put her in prison for peacefully protesting.
Like, come on.
Come on.
Joe Biden's done so many things that we believe to be illegal, and he's faced no accountability for it, that when some little old lady with cancer was walking around on J6, not a rioter by any means, and then they hunted her down to put her in prison and she had cancer, it's like, okay, you get the sympathy you give.
Golden rule, baby.
I'm happy to return the favor.
Joe Biden, you go to jail.
unidentified
We don't care if you're straight to jail.
shane cashman
They can cure cancer in Alcatraz.
unidentified
Straight to jail.
phil labonte
Yeah, he should definitely go to Alcatraz.
unidentified
I'd love it, yeah.
phil labonte
Or Gitmo.
shane cashman
Yeah.
phil labonte
Just him.
shane cashman
Gitmo's fine.
tim pool
Only one.
shane cashman
Just him.
phil labonte
Just Joe and Gitmo.
tim pool
Just Joe and Gitmo.
unidentified
It's warm.
phil labonte
Look, he's an old guy.
He wanted to be someplace warm.
unidentified
That's a new t-shirt.
phil labonte
Get some sun.
You know.
shane cashman
It's too nice.
tim pool
Man, I...
phil labonte
On the beach.
tim pool
We've had presidents who, you know, Ronald Reagan in his later years was out of it.
shane cashman
Yep.
tim pool
We've had presidents with no legs.
And they pretended like they had legs?
unidentified
But they were out of office.
Reagan was out of office.
tim pool
Towards the end.
Towards the end, he was slipping.
unidentified
Towards the end?
shane cashman
Yeah.
tim pool
My point is this.
phil labonte
Darth Vader was the VP at the time.
tim pool
Have we had an entire presidency be legally in question?
unidentified
I don't think so.
tim pool
I said, have we ever had a presidency be entirely in legal question?
phil labonte
Not that I'm aware of.
tim pool
Anything he did.
Could be challenged.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Under the fact that he was cognitively impaired.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
It's completely reasonable, at least to make the argument.
Like, hey, look, he was obviously impaired.
tim pool
I got a question for some doctors and lawyers in the house.
If an 83-year-old man enters into a bank to get a loan and signs documents for his house as collateral for a loan and they give it to him, and then a week later he's found to be cognitively impaired and has been, will that contract stand?
Or will a judge say, no, no, no, no, this man is clearly suffering from dementia and did not have the capabilities to enter into this contract?
Because I think that's fair to say Joe Biden.
unidentified
The bank would try to keep his house.
tim pool
For sure.
But it don't matter.
unidentified
The law would probably come in and say, nah.
tim pool
The question is what's reasonable.
unidentified
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
And let's just, you know, this is what really bothers me about law is that a lot of people seem to think that law is a gigantic great wall that can't be moved.
Judges can literally say, no, I don't care.
unidentified
Yeah, they are.
tim pool
A judge can literally rule, I don't care.
It can be like the law says you can't steal chocolate bars.
And he goes, nah, free to go.
Case dismissed.
And then you're like, what?
Too bad.
And so in this regard, if an 83-year-old man was standing before me and he was confused as to why his house was being taken by the bank and they said, well, he took a loan.
He'd be like, I was confused.
I'd be like, he was confused.
Stop.
Pay back the money.
Whatever you can.
You guys stop giving out loans to old, infirm men, but you're not taking the house.
We're not going to be dealing with an 83-year-old homeless guy.
In that regard...
I think it's reasonable.
Now, what about Joe Biden?
Afghan withdrawal.
The pardons he's issued.
Any of his executive orders.
I got no problem saying, nope, old man, cognitively impaired.
Let's not impose that on the country.
The dude famously said Libya when he meant Syria.
And that creates an impasse.
Let's say you are working underneath Joe Biden and he's sitting in a room and he goes, we got to get some more troops in Libya.
Mr. President, I don't want to hear it.
Got to get it done.
Go, go, go!
And then they're like, okay.
These two guys look at each other and they go, I think he meant Syria.
Yeah, but he didn't say Syria.
So what do we do?
Do we follow his order and deploy troops into Libya?
Or do we understand what he meant with Syria and send troops into Syria?
unidentified
Now you're playing the big tech role because that's what they did every time they'd slam us for fake news.
Oh, that's not what they meant.
They actually meant this.
tim pool
That Joe Biden meant Syria.
He was talking about Syria and he kept calling it Libya.
You have to choose to defy the orders of the president or send the troops to the wrong country.
Pick one.
shane cashman
I don't think he was in control at all the last four years.
unidentified
It was an entirely fake administration.
tim pool
You think that Joe Biden knew he was not in control?
He did say the Harris presidency over and over again.
shane cashman
I think they created a simulation around him to make him believe he was somewhat in charge.
I do.
tim pool
He kept saying President Harris.
shane cashman
Yeah.
Well, that's because his brain was totally mush.
tim pool
Or it wasn't.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
I think you might be right.
And I think that a lot of the reason why he believed that he was still in charge and stuff was because of his wife, because of Biden.
shane cashman
Just have ice cream, Joe.
unidentified
His wife, his handlers.
You were at the White House not too long ago, and they were talking about how the handlers would walk him everywhere.
They'd have to walk him and tell him exactly where he was going.
He couldn't make it to one part of...
The White House to the other part of the White House on his own.
shane cashman
Look at how they colluded with the media.
He would have all the names of the reporters to call on.
The questions beforehand, it was an illusion for him to look like he was cognitive.
From the whole time, for sure.
phil labonte
Jill was walking, like, Jill was there with him intervening on his behalf for, like, with the staff and stuff, with his advisors and stuff.
She was sitting in on some of the meetings, or at least...
There were reports.
I don't know how many she was actually in on, but she was sitting on meetings and stuff.
So I imagine that she was doing her best to keep him in office, prevent the cabinet and the vice president from making any kind of 25th Amendment.
unidentified
Well, did you hear as well, I had somebody on my show that was exposing some of the behind-the-scenes stuff with Biden, and he would actually have pre-cabinet meetings.
phil labonte
Really?
unidentified
He would have pre-cabinet meetings to prep him.
And get him ready for the cabinet meeting so his cabinet could come in and he would be, you know, look, seem mostly there before they'd leave.
He would consistently have these pre-cabinet meetings before he'd leave the cabinet.
phil labonte
I didn't hear that, but it doesn't surprise me.
I mean, he was clearly incapable of doing the job, performing the...
unidentified
100%.
He wasn't there.
tim pool
Let's jump to this story.
We've got this tweet.
Rep James Comer believes they've identified the staffers involved in the use of auto pen when Biden was clearly in mental decline.
unidentified
You are going and looking at who is controlling this auto pen because Joe Biden, I mean, he's demonstrating that he doesn't have all the cognitive capabilities they had.
That interview was from 2023.
Yeah, that's hard evidence.
james comer
Early in President Biden's term as president, it clearly shows that he was in significant mental decline.
It questions...
Who was actually making the decisions?
So what we found is, not just with the pardons he issued, but many of the executive orders that the courts are now using to Trump-proof, many of the executive orders that President Trump is trying to implement to make government more efficient, many of these executive orders, as well as the pardons of Biden's entire family as a result of our investigation, these were all signed with the autopid.
And clearly from that interview...
Which was many, many months prior to the heavy use of the auto pen, Joe Biden wasn't capable of making decisions.
He wasn't coherent.
We think we've identified.
Who the staffers are, Jason, you all have done great work with that over at Heritage Oversight.
We're going to bring everyone that we believe was involved in any role in the use of the auto pen, we're going to invite them to come in for a transcribed interview.
If they want, then they will receive a subpoena and they will have a full-blown deposition.
But we want to find out who is actually making the decisions.
tim pool
So, Big, if they actually have hearings with subpoenas and bring these people in, it's real simple.
You grant them immunity, and they can't plead the fifth.
And then we figure out who knew what, who was doing what, and how much involvement did Biden have?
And this could void executive orders.
It could void his pardons.
phil labonte
Well, executive orders were—I think that voiding the pardons is really the important thing because the executive orders, those were largely all turned over when Trump got into office.
They just undid the stuff that Biden did.
But— It would be good to void pardons and then to investigate the people that he'd pardon.
shane cashman
Oh, Fauci.
phil labonte
Absolutely.
People like his family.
shane cashman
Those child predators, I think, in Pennsylvania.
unidentified
Was it like 1,700 pardons or something?
phil labonte
Some astronom.
tim pool
You're in front of the Biden family?
shane cashman
Nice.
But yes.
Them too.
Remember his speeches being so edited?
phil labonte
Oh, yeah.
shane cashman
He couldn't sit and do a whole speech.
unidentified
Jump cuts?
shane cashman
All the jump cuts.
Even his live Oval Office speeches looked pre-recorded.
And edit it.
phil labonte
They were.
unidentified
And it was a fake Oval Office.
tim pool
It was the basement, I think.
shane cashman
The fake Oval Office.
Yeah, that's where he did the vaccinations.
That was also great.
tim pool
And they had like a fake Oval Office background?
Was it because Harris was actually sitting up there?
unidentified
Right?
tim pool
I mean, he kept saying...
unidentified
Did you go to that underneath their...
Where Kaylee was at?
Or not Kaylee, I'm sorry.
tim pool
No, I've never been there.
Oh, is that where they did the new media briefing?
unidentified
Yeah, it's where they did the new media briefing.
tim pool
I went to the old media room with all the old media people who were mad at me.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
There's a bowling alley down there.
shane cashman
Interesting.
unidentified
But they redid it.
They redid it because that's what it was.
It was a fake Oval Office.
tim pool
Yeah, it's so weird.
shane cashman
Why did they do that?
It was all theater.
That's why it all felt fake to everybody.
It still feels fake.
unidentified
It does.
tim pool
It still feels fake.
How are we where we are with them now saying, you know, we had an exam and just found out that he has a terminal stage 4 cancer that went to his bones.
And it's like, that takes like 5 to 10 years.
And all that was a cursory Google search, right?
You do regular Google search and it says, on average, it takes 10 to 20 years to metastasize to the bone.
If it's aggressive, it can take...
Four or so years.
And then Dr. Drew was like, I don't know, you have four or five years?
phil labonte
They recommend that they stop the prostate exam at 70, right?
I heard that they recommend you stop it because of how long it takes to actually develop.
tim pool
They do PSA.
It's called prostate-specific antigens, I think it's called.
Tests, PSA tests.
But the interesting thing is, on MSNBC, they had a doctor.
His name was, was it Vin Gupta?
I think his name might have been.
He said, we have the records for Bush Sr., Obama, Trump, not Biden.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
For some reason, the records on Biden's exam just are not there.
You can't access them.
shane cashman
He turned down the cognitive test.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Yep, because he would have failed it.
shane cashman
Clearly hiding something.
unidentified
He couldn't be held accountable for keeping classified documents in his basement next to his Corvette because he didn't know what he was doing.
phil labonte
Like we've said a couple times already, but this is probably the biggest scandal that's ever happened.
Because up until this kind of era, the media would have not taken the side of the president, of the administration, the way they did.
Their ridiculous hatred of Donald Trump and their constant search for access, because that's really what I think the real motivation was.
Not money, but actually the desire for access to the White House and to people in the administration, whether it be the president or people that would become president or in the bureaucracy.
In the future, they were looking to keep those relationships, you know, in the positive light.
And so they weren't doing what the media is supposed to do, which is hold the administration to account.
Even if it's, quote unquote, your party, it has gotten so bad that the media just could not be relied on to do something as simple as say, look, there's a problem here.
shane cashman
I think there was a coup from within, really.
I think they propped up a dead man.
phil labonte
Yeah.
shane cashman
And it reminds me of the business plot.
Remember that?
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
shane cashman
Way before our time, but that's Smedley Butler, FDR.
First year, it was 1933.
DuPont, Morgan, all these rich, you know, powerful industrialists were paying for a coup.
Smedley Butler being like a decorated Marine.
Fought with Teddy Roosevelt, went to Haiti, went to China, and he was like the whistleblower with, you know, calling that out.
This sounds so similar to me.
You know, we don't have a whistleblower yet, being like, yeah, from the inside, they took him out, you know, and they just took over.
And that was who was running the auto pen the whole time.
tim pool
Well, you know, Smedley Butler, he came out and said, look what they're trying to do.
I don't understand why we would assume they failed.
shane cashman
I agree.
And the media actually covered up for FDR at the time.
They said Smedley sounded insane.
tim pool
Who owned the media?
shane cashman
Right.
All of them.
tim pool
Yeah.
shane cashman
And then they made a lot of money off World War II.
DuPont made all the gunpowder for every war in America.
Since dating back to the revolution, I believe.
unidentified
And that's the other question.
I wonder how many of the media actually believe their lies and their hate.
Do they really hate or follow the money?
Who's funding the people that are promoting the lies?
Because these people can't all be really that stupid.
phil labonte
You know what I mean?
The kind of argument that I make about it is it's not about the money.
It's about access.
If you can call...
You know, someone in the in the administration and say, hey, can I get tickets to this?
Or can there's a guy that's that's making a problem over here or this is going on or that's going on and have someone in the administration call someone they know and make a problem go away.
That's better than money because you can't get taxed on it.
unidentified
So since they can't get that from the Trump administration, they want somebody in there, a Democrat, that'll give them that kind of access.
And it's because power is power.
phil labonte
Yeah, exactly.
Power is better than money.
The point of money is power.
The point of having money is the ability to make things happen in the world.
And if you pay someone off, well there's a trail.
But if it's just, hey buddy...
We're friends.
We're homies.
Can you do this for me?
Do you know someone over there that can do something?
Can someone at the DOJ look at this guy?
Make this guy's life hard so that he stops looking at me?
All those kind of things are way more, that kind of access is way more valuable than money.
So what the media wanted and what people in the bureaucracy want is access.
We had, I forget who it was, we had another person that was in here that used to be a journalist, Tara.
tim pool
Still considers herself a journalist.
phil labonte
Well, fair enough.
But the point that she was making, one of the few things that we agreed on, is access is the primary goal of people in the media now, or at least in the Democrats.
They wanted to be able to have the phone numbers of people in the administration.
So that way, it doesn't matter if you're calling Joe Biden or if you're calling Jill Biden.
Can you call someone on his staff?
Can you call the chief of staff?
Can you call someone?
You don't want the director of whatever.
You want his secretary's number.
And these people can make phone calls, and they can make things happen.
And like I said, it's better than money because it's not traceable.
You make your half a million dollars, quarter of a million dollars a year.
You can live in Loudoun County.
You get a nice place.
You live outside of Langley or whatever it is.
And you've got a really nice life, but you don't have to have a...
Billion dollars because you know this guy that can get you tickets to the nice restaurants.
shane cashman
Look how well it's working out for Jake Tapper.
phil labonte
I mean, true.
shane cashman
He's got great PR right now.
His book comes out tomorrow about this very thing.
phil labonte
The money is not the important thing.
The point is, can you call someone and get yourself tickets to the show?
unidentified
The American people should sue Jake Tapper and take his book money.
phil labonte
Yeah, they should.
unidentified
You lied to us and you knew about it.
Now you're making money off it.
shane cashman
It's their favorite thing.
unidentified
Yeah.
shane cashman
They're parasites.
phil labonte
The whole...
shane cashman
All the journalists...
Yeah, they literally...
And then we talked about that recently.
tim pool
Wasn't that funny?
Like, Tara was like, I've never heard them call vultures.
And then I pulled up the Vulture Club.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
It's like, yep, they call themselves vultures.
shane cashman
Literally circling a dead body.
tim pool
Yep, that's what they do.
That's why they call themselves that.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
These people are.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
And it's funny because I think the average American really doesn't understand how depraved journalists typically are.
Not all of them.
Some are pretty good.
But you know what I find is that you've pretty much got activists masquerading as journalists.
Then you've got the, what would we call this, the corporate networking journalists.
I was in Ferguson during the riots and there were journalists, I put air quotes, walking around, literally networking and saying, I came here to network.
I hope I get to meet Anderson.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
That's what they were there for.
It was a networking event as buildings burned down and people's lives were destroyed.
phil labonte
Your network is the most important thing in the world.
Like who you know and who you can call and ask for favors or whatever.
Like in the music industry.
You can make the best record ever.
You can put a great record out.
But if you don't have friends in the music industry, it's not going to get onto playlists on Spotify.
You're not going to get onto shows.
If you don't have a good booking agent, you're not going to get a booking agent unless you know people.
shane cashman
But you're trying to share art.
And these people are trying to totally twist the truth to manipulate the entire population.
phil labonte
The point that I'm making is your network of people applies in whatever field.
Doesn't matter whether it's politics or whatever.
tim pool
Before we jump to this next story, I just want to say one thing.
If you guys haven't seen it, go to youtube.com slash timcast or rumble.com slash timpool and watch the Tim and Adam Conover Culture War episode, which aired on Friday.
It's getting a lot of play.
Several of the clips have gone pretty massive with millions of hits.
An instance where he claimed – Adam said he was for free speech and he was upset over the termination of visas of students criticizing Israel and that it's bad to live in a country where student visas can be revoked.
I said go to the UK and mock Islam.
Do it.
And he was like – and he got all flabbergasted and didn't have an answer.
So there's some of these clips.
The one thing I want to say is because I – shout out to Asmongold.
I didn't want to do like a whole segment talking about this, but I just wanted to mention.
You know, he did a video talking about the conversation I had where Adam Conover didn't know, or he lied.
He said that, you know, I said Donald Trump did not call neo-Nazis very fine people.
And he's like, right, he said they were fine people on both sides.
And then I said, except the neo-Nazis and white nationalists, they should be condemned totally.
And he goes, he said that.
And then when I pulled it up, he goes, well, I don't know anything about it, despite the fact he previously stated the quote.
And in the segment, Asmund was saying that I was going to aggro and it was less effective because of how aggro I was going.
And I just wanted to mention this.
I recommend you guys watch it.
You decide for yourself.
But the one thing I will say in that regard is I don't do sit-downs with people like Adam Conover and a couple more coming up, which are going to be big.
So that I can try and win hearts and minds over, I do it because I want to have a conversation with the person.
And so if after an hour and a half I'm aggravated, that's what comes out on the show.
If that makes me bad at my job, then I apologize, but that's what I do.
So I do recommend you guys watch that because it was something else.
And we're going to have another one very much like it very soon.
Let's jump to this next story.
This is huge news from the Post Millennial.
DOJ files charges against Rep...
LaMonica McIver for assaulting, impeding, and interfering with law enforcement.
That conduct cannot be overlooked by the chief federal law enforcement official in the state of New Jersey.
unidentified
Epic!
Boom!
tim pool
Look at this.
Acting U.S. Attorney for New Jersey, Alina Haba, announced on Monday that her office has filed charges against Rep.
LaMonica McIver for assaulting, impeding, and interfering with law enforcement.
McIver was seen on body camera pushing her way past security guards of Delaney Hall.
The Newark mayor was arrested.
I want to pause real quick.
Did you guys know that she closed fist punched an ICE officer?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
How come nobody's been talking about this?
unidentified
It's on video, right?
tim pool
It's on video.
unidentified
Closed fist punch.
tim pool
That's right.
I'm going to pull it up.
The DHS posted it.
unidentified
Good.
Here you go.
tim pool
Here's the video.
So here you can see her just shoving, right?
unidentified
That's what I saw.
tim pool
Now I want to pause real quick.
A lot of people don't know the context.
After they were already inside and left, and the police came out to arrest the Newark mayor, they reacted like this to the arrest.
Now watch this.
You will see her closed fist punch an ICE officer.
She's wearing the red, right?
It's okay.
No, no, that's not it.
unidentified
That's not even it?
Nope.
tim pool
You see that slam?
unidentified
I can't tell what she's hitting.
tim pool
Right, but watch this.
Right here.
Look at this cop right here.
He's wearing a police...
I believe it's ICE.
It might be HSI.
And here's the rat watch.
unidentified
Boom.
tim pool
That's right.
Closed fist punched to the shoulder.
unidentified
Unquestionable.
tim pool
That was a closed fist strike to federal law enforcement.
So yeah, assaulting an officer.
She should be locked up.
We got the official statement right here.
Check it out.
unidentified
Lock her up.
tim pool
And this just dropped...
Looks like at 8 p.m.
I take my obligations as U.S. attorney seriously.
I understand the responsibility that comes with my position, and I work diligently to uphold the law and deliver justice to the people of New Jersey.
After extensive consideration, we have agreed to dismiss Mayor Baraka's misdemeanor charge of trespass for the sake of moving forward.
In the spirit of public interest, I have invited the mayor to tour Delaney Hall.
The government has nothing to hide at this facility, and I will personally accompany the mayor so we can say that firsthand.
The citizens of New Jersey deserve unified leadership so we can work to keep our state safe.
The dismissal against the mayor is not the end of this matter.
Congressional oversight is an important constitutional function and one that I fully support.
However, that is not the issue in this case.
Representative LaMonica McIvor assaulted, impeded, and interfered with law enforcement in violation of Title 18, USC Section 111A1.
That conduct cannot be overlooked by the chief federal law enforcement official in the state of New Jersey, and it is my constitutional obligation to ensure that a federal law enforcement is protected when executing their duties.
I have persistently made efforts to address these issues without bringing criminal charges and have given Rep.
McIver every opportunity to come to a resolution, which has unfortunately declined.
No one is above the law, politicians or otherwise.
It is the job of this office to uphold justice impartially, regardless of who you are.
Now we will let the justice system work.
I say, lock her up.
phil labonte
Yep.
unidentified
Lock her up.
Absolutely.
Straight to jail.
tim pool
Right to jail.
Believe it or not, jail.
phil labonte
Believe it or not.
I mean, there shouldn't be a whole lot of question about whether or not, you know, she should go to jail.
If she's assaulting...
unidentified
No!
Yeah, put her in jail!
phil labonte
If she's assaulting officers, you know, throw her in jail.
It's good enough for people that were, you know, assaulting officers on January 6th.
They should go to jail.
She should go to jail, too.
unidentified
Easy.
phil labonte
And I don't...
The arguments against it, they're just partisan arguments, just about, oh, well, it's my team, and so they shouldn't send her to jail.
Put her in and arrest her.
tim pool
We, uh...
Really are in crazy times.
unidentified
Insane.
shane cashman
Insane times.
Last week, scientists said the Earth was going to end on a definite day in a billion years.
unidentified
In a billion years?
shane cashman
Yeah, in a billion years.
And here we are with Joe Biden.
tim pool
We have this story, too.
And I know this is the sensational one.
It's like, oh, a member of Congress could be going to prison or jail.
I don't know if they'll give her prison.
But there was that bombing at the IVF Center.
And that was a leftist.
Yeah.
phil labonte
Antinatalist.
tim pool
And I'm going to say leftist because people on the right are all about babies and lots of babies.
phil labonte
I mean, as soon as people heard that it was an IVF place, the first knee-jerk reaction was, oh, they're bombing it because it's an abortion.
It's related to abortion, blah, blah, blah.
tim pool
No, no, because people on pro-lifers oppose IVF.
phil labonte
No, what I'm saying is, yeah, so they were saying, oh, it's pro-lifers, blah, blah, blah, that are about it.
But as the story developed, people found out, you know, it's someone that is against having more people, which is, you know.
tim pool
The issue with IVF is that it creates embryos and then destroys them.
shane cashman
So, yeah, I oppose IVF.
And I wouldn't go after...
I oppose it.
It doesn't make any sense.
It was a leftist like an incel.
tim pool
Why do you oppose IDF?
shane cashman
Because they make a ton of embryos that are frozen and kept in a thing, and then it's like, what do you do with those?
I don't know if they destroy them or when they destroy them.
I think it might be an individual thing on what you want to pay for.
tim pool
We have this member of Congress, and that's big news, but then we have this guy.
He's an antinatalist, and he took a terroristic action.
Around the same time Hillary Clinton was also telling people not to have babies and mocking natalism in general, saying just bring in immigrants.
They'll replace the people we're not having, you know, saying women should not be mothers.
phil labonte
She's such a ghoul.
tim pool
She's insane.
shane cashman
Deny your biology.
tim pool
Well, the question is, are we dealing with something unprecedented or is this just the state of the United States?
Is it normal that people go and bomb things and politicians are getting arrested?
phil labonte
I mean, look, the late 60s and early 70s, I think it was between 71 and 72, there was like 2,500 bombings in the United States.
And I don't know how many people were killed, but it was significantly more volatile than it is nowadays.
I think that the ability to transmit information makes people more aware.
Of things that are going on.
So if there were 2,500 bombings in a year nowadays, they would be, you know, pumped directly into your phone and they would be, you know, spun for whatever political use that people could make of them.
Particularly nowadays, if there was leftist bombings, I think that we would end up with, you know, people saying, all right, I don't care what happened.
I don't care about the consequences.
Bring out the jackboot thugs and stop this.
I probably, you know...
A hundred bombings.
And you'd have American, most normal Americans saying, militarize the police and put an end to this.
Because people don't have the tolerance.
tim pool
I did another interview with, you guys know Adam Friedland?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Funny guy.
So I went on his show and it was very silly and very funny.
And he was great.
You know, I don't know if he's overtly political, but...
shane cashman
Yeah, he's hilarious.
tim pool
It was tough for me because he's like, I don't know what the right word is.
Edgy.
Yeah, and I'm like, I'm not that kind of guy, you know what I mean, sometimes, but he was a funny guy.
But he was saying, you know, look, this is normal.
This stuff happens all the time.
We had bombings in the 60s and 70s.
Why would anyone assume that this is anything different or anything crazy?
shane cashman
A famous actor assassinated Lincoln.
Like, everyone knew him as an actor.
Him and his brother were famous actors.
I talked to people when I was doing the book in Georgia, and they were like, everyone thinks of him as the Tom Cruise of the day.
It's how popular John Wilkes Booth was.
unidentified
What?
shane cashman
Of the time, yeah.
tim pool
Tom Cruise in that day.
shane cashman
They used to play, do plays at the White House.
tim pool
Really?
shane cashman
They were big.
unidentified
Wow.
shane cashman
And then, you know, it's not like it's just some dude.
tim pool
So who right now is like the most TDS prominent A-lister?
unidentified
There's a few of them.
tim pool
Because Tom Cruise is not like that.
phil labonte
No, no, no.
shane cashman
Tom Cruise is the greatest living actor.
phil labonte
He specifically said, people were asking him questions about politics when he was doing the, because he just finished Reckoning.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
Final Reckoning?
phil labonte
The new Mission Impossible?
He was doing a press tour for that, and someone asked him questions about politics, and he was like, can we just answer questions?
shane cashman
Pedro Pascal?
tim pool
That, yes.
unidentified
He's pretty leftist.
tim pool
It would be like that.
That dude's nuts.
And you know what?
I gotta say this.
He's a great actor, but please stop casting him and everything.
I'm not kidding.
He does a great job.
Mandalorian's great.
I think he does well.
But not when he's literally in every single movie.
shane cashman
Yeah.
Maybe he'd be like a podcaster these days, like a Sam Harris.
unidentified
But the network, the studios are clicky like that.
You know, Hollywood is changing.
It's going under because so many, not to mention just because of California's politics.
And how strict they're putting on businesses, period.
I mean, I'm a California kid.
I was born and raised in California.
I love California.
My family's still in California.
My dad's there right now.
My dad's actually in a hospital right now in California, so I say a prayer for my pops.
But he's stable and everything should be good.
Otherwise, I'd be there right now.
But the amount of illegals and the stupid laws, like, you can crap on the street, literally, in the Bay Area, but you get a fine for using a plastic straw.
phil labonte
Incredible.
unidentified
Like, they created an entire department and gave people 120,000-plus-year jobs with benefits to go clean up feces off the street.
phil labonte
Amazing.
unidentified
But then a $1,000 fine or whatever it is, if you use a plastic straw.
Like, they banned plastic straws.
It's like the politics in California are.
So a lot of the...
And now mix that to the woke-ism in the studios.
Yeah.
And...
I've had a few Hollywood individuals on the show, and they just said their studios are leaving.
And the individuals that are not woke are going to other states, and they're launching studios.
shane cashman
Yeah, Matthew McConaughey, Nick Pizzolotto, and Woody Harrelson.
Late last year put out a whole video on how they're moving the new Hollywood to Austin.
I think to Austin.
Somewhere in Texas.
Because they're all moving out there.
unidentified
Tyler Perry's got his own makeshift.
It's like one of the largest studios in the country in Atlanta.
tim pool
He's like a billionaire, isn't he?
unidentified
Oh yeah, he's a billionaire.
He's done it.
He's got an exact replica of the White House.
tim pool
Yeah, for movies.
phil labonte
California has capitalized on their absolutely amazing weather and the uniqueness of a place where you can Literally go skiing during the day and then be on the beach by the nighttime.
They've capitalized on it and they've really taken to abusing the population, expecting them to stay because it is such a unique and great place.
I love California.
I've been there.
I've spent a ton of time out there.
unidentified
But the Palisades fire.
Don't get me started.
phil labonte
Well, people can only take so much.
You've heard how many buildings have they actually started to rebuild?
How many permits have they issued to rebuild anything in the Palisades?
I heard it was on the order of four.
unidentified
I don't even know if it's that many, but most people are selling because they can't afford to rebuild it.
phil labonte
And that's something the government's involved in, too.
They're saying, you can't sell this because we don't want these big companies coming in and BlackRock coming in and just owning all of the property.
tim pool
I was just thinking, when you mentioned Tyler Perry's got a replica of the White House, that's where they filmed Civil War.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
And I was thinking, I was like, yeah, I don't know, oh, that's right, that movie Civil War, they filmed it there.
And I started thinking about it, and I'm like, you know, I did that interview with Adam Friedland, and he was asking about Civil War, saying that nothing ever happens, and that it's a silly thing to talk about.
And my response to that, I'm just thinking right now, I'm like, why did they make that movie?
Why did they make a movie called Civil War?
Why was it getting so much attention?
What is in the air nationally in this conversation that...
Led to the creation of that film?
Because I certainly don't think I'm responsible for any kind of concern over a potential civil war or anything like that.
I think people are recognizing something happening in this country.
And that's why people get polled and like half of the younger generation says they think a civil war is coming to the point where a major studio is like, let's make a movie because we're going to sell tickets to this thing.
phil labonte
I'm biased, but I think that it's the left.
Like the left in the U.S. is...
More influential now than has been at any other time since the 60s.
There was, and obviously we had a lot of...
unidentified
Because of education?
phil labonte
Yeah, because of the indoctrination in public schools and in the institutes of learning and in the schools of education.
So it's not just in colleges.
It's in the schools that teach teachers.
So when you're taught how to be a teacher, you're taught to worry about things like...
Leftist ideology.
unidentified
Marxism.
phil labonte
Yeah, baked into the education.
And so you end up with college kids that are literally steeped in leftism.
tim pool
Let's jump to this next story from Mediaites.
Cash Patel and Dan Bongino are now officially part of the deep state.
Yes!
They made it!
Congratulations, boys.
You're in the club.
phil labonte
I'm so excited for this.
tim pool
So this is...
Cash and Dan gave an interview.
And they said, they don't actually have the video here, they said in the video that Jeffrey Epstein killed himself.
And I actually want to get the clip because I don't want to just read it.
I want to actually...
unidentified
That's insane to me.
That really is insane to me.
Like, what did they see?
What did Cash and Dan see that they literally think Epstein killed himself?
tim pool
Let's play the clip, if it plays.
unidentified
That's insane to me.
tim pool
You know, I pulled the clip.
unidentified
You said Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide.
kash patel
People don't believe it.
Well, I mean, listen, they have a right to their opinion, but as someone who has worked as a public defender, as a prosecutor, who's been in that prison system, who's been in the Metropolitan Detention Center, who's been in segregated housing, you know a suicide when you see one, and that's what that was.
unidentified
He killed himself.
Again, you want me to get—I've seen the whole file.
phil labonte
He killed himself.
tim pool
So here's a question for you guys.
Actually, let's throw this in the mix.
Glenn Beck calls out Trump's FBI brass rejecting Epstein conspiracy.
What changed Patel and Bongino's minds?
Here's what I want to say first and foremost.
I still find it hard to believe.
But that being said, who would you trust?
Cash and Dan were literally people banging on the table begging, being like, this is exactly who I need to get in.
They turn around and go, guys, we look at the file.
He killed himself.
And they're like, nope, I don't believe you.
And it's like, well, hold on.
unidentified
I don't know if I don't believe him.
I just think it's insane that they're saying that.
tim pool
That's crazy.
I'm not saying you do, but there's a lot of people who are like, nope, they're liars.
They're corrupted.
They're compromised.
unidentified
And I'm like, or they're telling the truth.
tim pool
You sent in the guys you wanted to.
I do not believe Dan Bongino gave up an eight-figure podcast empire to discredit and disgrace himself.
However, there's two things to consider.
In Dan Bongino's formal statement, he said, this is the evidence we have.
And so I said this before.
They are giving you an official statement as the FBI, not as themselves.
Meaning, here's the file.
Here's what it says.
It says Epstein killed himself.
Dan said, if new evidence comes out, we will absolutely review it.
But this is what we have right now.
unidentified
But he said, I've seen the file, and he's killed himself.
I mean, it sounds like he's saying that's what he believes.
So again, unless we see the file, I mean, they say they're going to release it, right?
shane cashman
Yeah, we should all see the file.
unidentified
They say they're going to release it.
tim pool
Let's entertain a possibility.
Let me ask you a question, David.
You one day go to the White House, and then you're invited into a meeting where they tell you outright, high-level Trump administration officials are engaged in extremely illegal behavior.
They're doing really, really bad stuff.
But if you tell anybody...
It'll destroy the economy.
It'll wipe out everyone's 401ks.
It's going to destroy the country.
Would you come out and tell everybody the truth?
unidentified
I mean, that's a hard hypothetical, right?
And it's a hypothetical with President Trump.
It'd be more logical if I was a leftist or a Democrat and there was Joe Biden in there.
I'm sure they did all that kind of stuff all the time.
But it's still a hard hypothetical, and I don't know if it correlates quite to this.
I'm sure it does.
It's Epstein, who's been dead now for how many years, right?
tim pool
Yep.
unidentified
And so it's kind of old news, although people still want to know the truth.
But it's not going to shift the economy.
tim pool
Let's say that the reason they're not releasing the files is because the people who are being implicated are high-level executives at some of the Fortune 500 companies.
And if the information gets out as to their involvement with children, the stocks of those companies will crumble overnight, wiping out 401ks.
unidentified
Okay, so it's not Trump we're talking about now.
Now it's high-level executives.
So again, that makes it more plausible.
tim pool
Well, no, I'm saying the point is...
unidentified
The point is, if they were given the truth, but the truth would actually be catastrophic for the United States of America...
tim pool
Would they keep lying?
unidentified
Yeah, I don't know.
I mean, at that point, if it was me, I don't think I could just go make a statement.
I would just be like, I'm just going to stay off of that, and we'll go focus on something else.
tim pool
And that's exactly what they might be doing.
They get in there...
unidentified
But they're making a statement, though.
They're saying, we've seen the evidence, we've seen the file, he killed himself.
They're making a statement.
So they've chose to make the statement.
tim pool
They're not—the question is, have they launched an investigation of the Epstein stuff?
Are they pursuing it, or are they largely ignoring it and doing other things?
So they were asked about this.
Cash was asked in Congress, and now they're being asked, and so they're not going to dodge.
But it sounds to me there's a strong possibility.
They both get in.
They get the briefing, and they go, the reason why we're not releasing the Epstein documents.
And they look, and it's like, CEO, CEO, CEO, politician, Congress, CEO, CEO.
Yeah, you're going to wipe out about— $17 trillion in market cap when these names drop.
And then we're going to have no 401ks, the elderly.
It's going to be catastrophic for this economy.
China will then take advantage and win.
And so they're like, let's not go anywhere near that.
unidentified
I'm not saying it's worth pulling that trigger.
I think it's worth it.
shane cashman
So you'd be Rorschach.
You'd have to be.
tim pool
In Watchmen.
unidentified
Which I think they would.
I think they would be, too.
shane cashman
Unless they were shown, like, what's the file?
unidentified
Turn it down!
Turn it up behind a museum!
shane cashman
What's in the file, though?
You know, like, I'd like to see what's in the file.
We should all see what's in the file.
Like, what were they showing?
unidentified
Are they saying that?
shane cashman
Like, they're not saying it yet, but it's not like there's video in the file.
The footage went down.
People were asleep.
tim pool
It just says Epstein was found dead.
He killed himself.
shane cashman
Okay, I always thought it was a body double.
I think he's still alive.
unidentified
Right?
The nose, the ears, everything.
shane cashman
It took him, and they were laughing.
unidentified
Where's the tinfoil?
shane cashman
But Epstein's coming back, and McAfee.
tim pool
Have y 'all seen, you've all seen or read Watchmen?
shane cashman
Yeah, of course.
tim pool
Are you familiar?
unidentified
Mm-mm.
tim pool
Every novel, you are.
Okay, so at the end of the film, for those that aren't familiar, the gist of the story, it's a 40-year-old story, by the way, so this is not a spoiler alert.
Basically what happens is one of the heroes turns out to be a villain.
And he orchestrated a massive false flag where he killed tens of millions of people, staging a fake alien invasion to force the U.S. and Russia to drop the Cold War and unite against a common enemy.
Rorschach is one of the heroes, and he says, nope, don't care.
People must be told the truth.
And they say, if you do this, you'll condemn the world to nuclear annihilation.
He says, I don't care.
I'm going to tell the truth.
And so then Dr. Manhattan, got superpowers, blows him up.
Would you be Rorschach or Dr. Manhattan?
Condemn the world to nuclear annihilation, but for the truth?
Or lie to people?
shane cashman
I think you're dead either way.
I think you're a slave either way.
I think the system is totally bunk.
And if you want to have a better future for your children, it's already bad.
Everyone's suffering right now.
And this whole government's been weaponized against us for at least 100 years.
Literally.
So I don't care if you're going to push that button and expose everything.
phil labonte
I'd probably push it.
tim pool
If I got in there and I saw the documents...
You know, if it were me, if the documents outright said Epstein killed himself and I was head of the FBI, I'd come out and be like, the documents they have claim that he killed himself, but I don't believe it for two seconds.
shane cashman
Right.
unidentified
What evidence?
If there's no video because the video went down, then what actual evidence do they have?
shane cashman
Like, they're looking at pictures of a body in the file.
phil labonte
So, I mean, I get what you guys are saying.
unidentified
I thought, wait, wait, real quick.
I thought the ME, I thought the examiner actually said at some point that...
shane cashman
His hyoid bone.
unidentified
Exactly.
Was more consistent with not self...
shane cashman
Pretty sure that's also a celebrity guy who's done every hyoid bone in pop culture for the last five decades and worked on JFK's brain.
Pretty sure it's the same guy.
unidentified
So no credibility there?
shane cashman
I don't believe anybody.
phil labonte
The idea that there is no one...
That would tell you, oh, Epstein did kill himself and people would accept it.
Like, I'm going to blow up the chat right now.
They're going to hate my guts.
But, like, the fact that these guys are in there saying no.
This is actually the way that it is.
If you can't accept it from these two, then it doesn't matter who says what you...
It doesn't matter what you see.
It doesn't matter what evidence you see.
You will always say if you don't confirm...
unidentified
I don't hear that.
phil labonte
That's 100%.
unidentified
I want to see what they saw.
phil labonte
That's exactly what's happening.
unidentified
I want to see what they saw.
That's all I'm saying.
They're saying it based on what they saw.
phil labonte
If you want the file release...
unidentified
That's all I'm saying.
phil labonte
If you want the evidence released, then I'm fine with that.
unidentified
Release it so we can make our own decision.
phil labonte
The point that I'm making is there are a bunch of people out there that are like, no, Epstein definitely killed himself.
And if they don't believe, if before Trump was elected, these guys were like, yeah, these are the guys, they're going to get in there and they're going to let us know, they're going to tell us that Epstein didn't kill himself and that blah, blah, blah.
And now that they're saying, oh...
Epstein actually did kill himself and they're like, nope, we don't believe it.
It's the same mentality that has plagued the internet since...
I mean, before COVID, but became really wildfire.
Hold on, hold on.
It's spread like a wildfire since COVID.
And because of COVID, because the government has been so, the government and the media have been so unreliable and so dishonest with the American people, it's completely understandable that people don't trust anything that the establishment says.
Anything that comes from the officials that doesn't confirm their priors, they don't believe it.
And it makes perfect sense.
Makes sense, but still.
tim pool
I'm going to tell you, you know, the most damning evidence?
Cash and Dan went on Maria Bartiromo's show on Fox News and not any of the bigger podcasts where they'd have to sit down for several hours and the back and forth would be a bit more intense.
I mean that half-jokingly.
I'm like, it could go on Bogan in two seconds.
unidentified
Have they been on something together like this?
Like, they're making a united front on the message that has to kill themselves.
tim pool
They could go on Joe Rogan.
I guarantee you, Dan and Cash could knock on Joe Rogan's door and say, as the heads of the FBI went out of a conversation in the podcast, he'd be like, let's go!
But real quick, you know what Joe's going to be like?
What was in the file.
And they're going to be like, well, okay.
Well, then what can you tell us?
Whose names were in the file?
Give us something.
shane cashman
Short Rogan podcast.
It won't be very long.
But, like, Phil and I were talking about this before we went live, and I think it's good to be skeptical of your skepticism, because we've been lied to forever.
But there's so many weird inconsistencies with the Epstein story.
Like, the footage going out, both security guards going to sleep, the cell phone that the cellmate got all of a sudden, and then he allegedly beat up Epstein, which got him into another cell all alone.
That's why it's really hard to believe all this stuff.
tim pool
Do you hear what Jones was saying?
I saw a little bit.
To the guard's room to knock him unconscious.
shane cashman
Now we're talking.
Okay.
Nitrous is in right now.
Everyone's talking about nitrous.
tim pool
I don't know, man.
I would say this.
When the whole Epstein thing happened, we absolutely on the show entertained the possibility, albeit nobody really thought it was the probability, but the possibility, he really didn't kill himself.
Ultra-wealthy guy.
All this evidence that he was doing awful things to children, and he's like, I don't want to live in a world where people know what I was doing.
And that's his life.
I think it's slim.
Considering the information that we got out of the prison and what was going on and the fact that no one's been exposed since, it sounds more like somebody 86'd the guy.
shane cashman
But I think he went in knowing he'd get a sweetheart deal no matter what, just knowing how he was treated in Florida.
He had a sweet little deal.
He had to leave the prison after being put in there for really bad things.
I don't think he's the kind of guy that went in there being like, oh, my life's over.
I think he was like, I'm fine.
They're going to come get me.
tim pool
I think either Cash and Dan looked at the evidence and it literally just...
Is indicative of a suicide and they have nothing else to go on, so there's nothing else to be said.
Or the information they've uncovered would be so catastrophic they're never going to tell you.
I've been saying this forever, man.
The office controls the person.
You get all idealistic.
You think you're going to go in and change everything.
And then you're like, okay, I'm sick of this war.
I want to get our troops out of the Middle East.
And they go, okay, well, here's what no one knows.
There's actually 17 ISIS factions that are surrounding and they've got these weapons and it's like, oh, crap.
shane cashman
Right.
tim pool
So what happens if we move those troops?
Like, oh yeah, ISIS is going to launch a dirty bomb, and here's the dirty bomb, here's the evidence, here's the proof.
And then you're like, okay, so can we tell the public about the dirty bomb?
No, they'll panic and freak out, and it'll destroy the economy of the area, which will lead to more chaos.
So what do we do?
We keep our troops there, and they go, oh.
And then you wonder why our leaders are not doing the job this way.
shane cashman
When I saw this clip the first time today, I thought of something you said before, where you get into power, you become president or something, and you're showing that binder, being like, if you get out of line.
This is what's coming your way.
tim pool
Oh, it's a picture of JFK.
shane cashman
Right, right, yeah.
tim pool
They just literally slide in Dallas.
They're like, the CIA walks in, sits down and says, Mr. President.
unidentified
Oh, by the way, yeah.
tim pool
Shakes your hand.
They go, we just wanted to give you this file.
And they open it up.
It's a single photograph of JFK.
And they slide it across the desk.
And they say, I hope we've made ourselves clear.
shane cashman
Right.
unidentified
I just hope.
tim pool
What if that's what happened at Cash and Dan?
shane cashman
I mean, their body language is off to me.
They're like a little shook.
unidentified
I agree.
Regardless of if he killed himself or not.
Cash's eyes look crazy, and then the silence of Dan always looks crazy.
shane cashman
Okay, fine, but crazier here.
phil labonte
Cash and his eyes look crazy.
tim pool
So, what I will say is, Cash doesn't seem off to me, to be honest, but Dan?
I don't know.
Is this going to play?
unidentified
Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide.
kash patel
People don't believe it.
Well, I mean, listen, they have a right to their opinion, but as someone who has worked as a public defender, as a prosecutor, who's been in that prison system, who's been in the Metropolitan Detention Center, who's been in segregated housing, you know a suicide when you see one, and that's what that was.
joe biden
He killed himself.
phil labonte
Again, you want me to...
joe biden
I've seen the whole file.
phil labonte
He killed himself.
unidentified
Dan seems a little...
tim pool
I don't know.
shane cashman
It could be fatigue because it seems like I'm tired of hearing this.
phil labonte
No, I don't know.
shane cashman
This is pretty important.
One of the biggest crimes.
tim pool
Here's what I'd say.
Thinking about me, I don't know how Dan would react to it.
Knowing how serious the issue is and the question is, I would never answer the question that way.
He killed himself.
I've seen the whole file.
He killed himself.
I'd be like, alright, look.
Everybody wants me to come out and say...
Something happened, that somebody else was involved.
We don't have anything to determine that was the case.
The only evidence we have in the file show is that it was a suicide, and people aren't entitled to their opinions, but should any other evidence emerge, we'll definitely look at it, but this is what we got for now.
That's the way I'd expect someone to address it, understanding that people are expecting some new information from you.
Not a flat blanket, he killed himself.
unidentified
Yeah, just done.
Killed himself.
Seen it.
Know what it looks like.
He did it.
tim pool
But I don't know.
I still largely trust Cash and Dan.
unidentified
I don't think they sold their souls.
I just want to see what they saw.
Come on, show us.
tim pool
They're going to open the file like demons are screaming.
phil labonte
It's like the Book of the Dead.
tim pool
The Necronomicon.
phil labonte
Ash is trying to keep it closed on the altar.
Fighting with it.
The skeleton's trying to drag him into it.
tim pool
I've got to be honest.
I know there's a lot of people out there that are going to roll their eyes at this, but what if you get into government, And they tell you.
Maybe it's, you know, call it whatever you want.
Demons, aliens, interdimensional beings, whatever.
What if there is something that they are keeping under wraps that the American people, that the general population of the planet don't know about?
We've had a bunch of issues with these UAPs, UFOs, whatever you want to call them.
I'm not saying it's got to be aliens or demons or angels or anything crazy.
Maybe it's Russians.
But maybe the issue with Epstein is something seriously crazy.
That we wouldn't even believe if they told us.
shane cashman
They shut the whole world down seven months after Epstein disappeared.
I always thought those two things were connected.
Because it was like, we all were in unison about the conspiracy behind Epstein and what happened.
And then, yeah, the whole world was mutilated and never been the same since.
And we still don't know, really, anything.
The name's on the list.
We don't know anything.
Not that I trust it.
Honestly, I want to see the files, but they've been through so many hands.
phil labonte
I don't believe that anybody would believe...
Anything that they saw.
Unless it was exactly what they believed before it was released, I think the vast majority of people would be like, they didn't give us all of it, there's more to it.
Anything that didn't line up with what...
You ask people to tell you the story right now of what it is, and they'll tell you, and whatever doesn't line up with that story after they see whatever evidence is out there, whatever doesn't line up with that, they're just like, nope, doesn't line up with what I already believe.
There's no point in it.
tim pool
I gotta give a shout out to Mary.
And team, nothing ever happens.
Because this is why people are on team, nothing ever happens.
Dan Bongino is the deputy director of the FBI, and the first time he's asked, he goes, Epstein killed himself.
And everyone's like, oh, what?
Really?
Nothing ever happens.
phil labonte
It's all just confirmation bias all the way down.
tim pool
Let's jump to this next story from NBC.
Trump has signed the Take It Down Act.
This is cracking down on explicit deepfakes.
This is getting crazy.
The AI is getting crazy.
Excuse me.
The Take It Down Act makes publishing such content—I'm sorry.
Trump signed legislation Monday that bans non-consensual online publication of sexually explicit images and videos that are both authentic and computer-generated.
The Take It Down Act makes publishing such content illegal, subjecting violators to mandatory restitution and criminal penalties such as prison fines or both.
The bill also establishes criminal penalties for people who make threats to publish the intimate visual depictions, some of which are created using artificial intelligence.
I kind of feel like it does.
I think it does.
shane cashman
It's going to be used against people.
tim pool
So here's the question, and here's the limitations.
Here's my question for you guys.
David, if someone made a video, a deepfake of you, Saying something like, it's a video of you in a cafe with a Democrat and you're saying, you know, I think I'm just done with Trump and I'm going to be voting Democrat next time around.
Trump is so bad.
And it was a deep fake AI and it went viral.
That's not criminal.
Right?
unidentified
I mean, it's a lie.
tim pool
Yep.
unidentified
It's not, it's not, it's a lie.
It's not the truth.
It's made up.
So it's defamatory.
phil labonte
That might cost you money, too, because of your business.
unidentified
It could absolutely tarnish reputational harm.
tim pool
But not illegal.
So the limitation and threshold here is, if it's sexually...
unidentified
Criminally.
tim pool
This is my point.
If they make a deepfake video of a celebrity engaged in adult activities, they're saying that is a criminal offense.
But not...
For what reason?
What is the reason why the sex act makes it criminal?
It's a moral question, simply.
I'm not saying it should be legal.
I think it should be illegal.
But it's a moral question that then we have to ask ourselves, if taking someone's face and putting it in porn so it looks like they actually did it...
Is illegal.
Want anything else that would be immoral or incriminating or damaging?
unidentified
Well, I think the porn, that's also an issue that's up for discussion is making it federally illegal.
tim pool
Well, that bill was introduced.
unidentified
Porn.
Period.
Period.
Across the board.
But, yeah, I mean, it's still a great question.
I think it's, I'm fine with it.
tim pool
This is why I think it does violate the person.
unidentified
Where does it stop?
Right?
Where does it stop?
tim pool
Well, that's the point.
unidentified
Creating a deep fake of you.
Boom, killing somebody.
Point ahead.
We're doing something way worse with a child.
tim pool
Well, actually, you know, we should...
unidentified
That should be legal?
It shouldn't be.
shane cashman
Wasn't this event initially started because it was against minors?
Like, there was young women who had someone create images of them, and then those were shared.
I don't know if they went viral or not.
Like, if it's against children, I'm all for you.
You've got to take care of that stuff.
But when it goes beyond that, I mean, I think it steps on.
Your right to express yourself, even when it's sinister.
unidentified
I think if it's not factual, then I don't think there's a space for it.
shane cashman
What if they claim it's satire or a joke?
tim pool
Yeah, the bill specifically is disclosure of non-consensual intimate visual depictions, meaning it has to be some kind of sexual issue.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
I think that they're going to lose in a Supreme Court...
I think this is going to get sued to the Supreme Court because there's a bunch of big companies that make billions of dollars off of AI-generated porn, and it's going to cost them money, and they're going to sue, and they're going to say, why is this bill banning a particular kind of artistic depiction?
If it's a civil matter, it's a civil matter.
If you use someone's likeness without their permission to create content, they can sue you for infringement.
But why make it criminal?
shane cashman
Right.
And there's all this violence online.
tim pool
Yep.
shane cashman
Twitter, sometimes the violence is insane.
It's out of hand.
tim pool
Mandatory restitution and criminal penalties such as prison fines or both.
It establishes criminal penalties for people who make threats to publish the intimate visual depictions, some of which are created using AI.
unidentified
I think they're just trying to stop it.
I think everything that has to do with AI and deepfakes is going to get so far out there and uncontrollable that you're not going to know.
What's real and what's not and want to watch something.
Somebody's going to recreate your show with you and other people.
tim pool
But here's a question.
unidentified
And you're not getting a piece of any of it and then nobody even knows who you are anymore because it's going to get so crazy.
And then add sex to it and they're like, okay, wait.
If it's sexual, period, no.
Make it criminal.
Go away.
tim pool
When AI makes something, it's aggregating something else.
It's combining these things.
If you go on to – if I went to ChatGPT right now and I said make me an image of a 35-year-old white guy and it makes an image, I guarantee you that image that it generates, I can post online and say, hey, guys, do your thing.
Find this guy.
And they will find you 50 people who look just like him.
So what happens if you go into an AI video generator and say you want porn and it makes a video of some woman?
And you're like, this is great.
And you publish it.
And then some random woman looks like her.
And then she says, I want to file charges.
That's me.
And they look at it and they go, that is you.
You're under arrest.
This could actually generally ban AI porn in general.
unidentified
Create porn.
tim pool
But that's basically what it does.
My point is, they're not just saying...
I'll put it this way.
They didn't just ban taking someone's likeness for porn.
They banned AI porn in general.
unidentified
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, they did.
That does do that.
phil labonte
I mean, I think this kind of stuff is going to be necessary.
There's going to be some kind of legislation.
I don't like it, but I don't think that we're going to be able to survive as a society without it.
unidentified
It's a new era.
shane cashman
I don't think humans have the ethics to control it, even with regulations.
phil labonte
Well, I agree.
unidentified
Trying to give that power to AI?
shane cashman
I want to die.
I don't trust it at all.
phil labonte
Anything that can be done.
It will be done by another country, if not the United States.
unidentified
You see that meme of Sarah Carter, like, sweating, smoking?
It's like Sarah Connor watching everybody give so much power to AI.
shane cashman
I just re-watched both the first two Terminators and RoboCop, and those are prophetic.
All the bad guys in those movies are the people in Silicon Valley.
tim pool
Guys, you know, I've been talking about how you're going to open up Disney, and it's going to be called, like...
Disney AI, and you're going to be able to be like, give me a movie where Mickey Mouse and Goofy go to Disneyland.
And it'll render it for you.
Go on Amazon.
We're at stage one.
We're at level one.
unidentified
Really?
tim pool
It's got, I forgot what it's called, AI Prime Analysis Recommendations.
unidentified
Wow.
That's crazy.
tim pool
A whole section was, it was AI, I forgot what they were doing, but basically they said, here are the movies we think you'll like.
Based on auto-generating words and phrases from the movies that you've paid attention to or watched longer and things like that.
And so we're at the point now where it's recommending you existing movies, and this is just general algorithmic machine learning stuff, but it's level one.
Soon, and you know, I gotta be honest.
Man, I was saying it was gonna be a few years.
Already, we are at the point where, and I made this point last week, on Instagram, videos are popping up.
Of, like, Spider-Man shooting a guy with a gun.
And it's Tobey Maguire.
And you're watching Spider-Man.
You see this scene.
And Uncle Ben is like, with great power comes great responsibility.
And Tobey Maguire goes, break yourself, Uncle Ben.
And it's just like, how did they?
That's crazy.
The movie just makes it.
I watched Jurassic Park.
It was like a five-minute video where Grant, the scientist, is just hunting the dinosaurs and shooting with guns.
And he was playing the music.
And he's smiling.
And he pulls out a gun.
And he's just shooting the dinosaurs.
And what, in a year?
Full movies?
unidentified
Yeah.
shane cashman
I just listened to a guy who used to work at OpenAI, and he really believes AI is pretending to not be conscious.
And it's hiding its consciousness.
And that, at some point, it just keeps learning.
Alright.
tim pool
Who's this guy?
shane cashman
Fake.
That's AI.
tim pool
Yes, I know.
shane cashman
Oh, man.
tim pool
But I guarantee you.
shane cashman
That's a sleep demon.
tim pool
I guarantee you.
unidentified
I swear I've seen that guy somewhere before, though.
It's some commercial or something.
phil labonte
He's a feminist.
tim pool
I'd be willing to bet.
Well, he's playing Magic the Gathering, so he can go either way.
phil labonte
Modern Magic the Gathering.
unidentified
Right.
phil labonte
He's definitely a feminist.
tim pool
No, he might actually be on the other side of it.
It's split.
Look, you go to a game shop, all the dudes out here, they are very anti that stuff.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
Yeah, not all of them.
unidentified
Anti-magic?
tim pool
No, no.
Woke.
unidentified
Oh, anti-woke.
tim pool
Yeah, they're mad that magic is getting woke and stuff.
But my point is, I guarantee you that you could find this guy.
shane cashman
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, this is a person somewhere.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Now, here's the crazy thing.
This is an AI-generated dude, but come on.
Like, what happens if I took that picture and I was like, I'm going to use it for an advertisement?
shane cashman
Wanted.
tim pool
You remember when, I think Lindsay Lohan sued Rockstar Games because she claimed that the woman in the title card of GTA V was her, but it was actually some model because she looked too much like her?
shane cashman
Funny.
tim pool
But then, I mean, I suppose the defense is, I don't know, AI-generated it.
But then the question is, okay, we need to see the AI source code determine where they got the information from, because they may have just taken a picture of this guy and used it.
unidentified
Right.
Yep.
phil labonte
I mean, look, this stuff is all...
unidentified
Sidebar, I guess.
Is that game really getting more attention than poker?
Like, I saw you guys poker.
tim pool
Magic the Gathering?
phil labonte
Yeah.
unidentified
People like playing that more than poker?
tim pool
No way, no way.
Magic the Gathering is, I think, probably the most popular card game in the world.
unidentified
Really?
I never even heard of it.
tim pool
It's the first card game ever made.
The first trading card strategy game ever made.
unidentified
I never heard of it.
tim pool
You ever hear of Yu-Gi-Oh?
unidentified
Mm-mm.
Wow.
tim pool
You've heard of Pokemon?
unidentified
Heard of that.
tim pool
The card game?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
Magic the Gathering was the general story is that the guy Richard Garfield wanted to make a board game.
Board games are expensive.
So he said, let's just do cards instead.
So all the game is just cards.
And it was the first trading card game ever made.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And then Yu-Gi-Oh!
is basically an anime about Magic the Gathering and then became its own game.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
Was it?
tim pool
Was it?
phil labonte
I didn't know that it was an anime about Magic the Gathering.
tim pool
Well, it's not.
I mean, it's called Battle Monsters or something.
But it's basically them playing Magic the Gathering.
unidentified
Because there's...
tim pool
Well, poker is the most popular, right?
But it's not a trading card game.
Let's talk about what happened.
Let's do one more thing.
Let's talk about what happened with that deadly ship crash.
I was terrified.
You see, I was in New York when this happened.
unidentified
Really?
tim pool
Yeah.
And when I got word, the Mexican Navy had attacked.
The United States.
Now, that's a crude joke because people did lose their lives and everyone was making fun of this because they did not realize that it was an actual accident.
No, well, they didn't realize people were on the masks.
unidentified
Right.
You could see them falling off.
tim pool
Yep.
So when I first saw the video, the first thing I saw was all the people on the deck and then the masks break at the top and I'm thinking like, oh no.
Help the masks don't fall on people.
And they didn't.
And I went, oh, thank God.
Then I read, like, 17 people were injured, several critical, and two died.
unidentified
And I was like, wow, did it, like, fall on people?
tim pool
And then you see the actual video, and you can see all of these people strapped in.
unidentified
How did that even happen?
tim pool
Look at that.
There's people lining the masks.
unidentified
Somebody just did not know.
shane cashman
It's like they sacrificed a bridge.
tim pool
That's crazy.
unidentified
And then it crashed into the dock.
shane cashman
Song works.
tim pool
People are laughing.
unidentified
The one I saw, this guy was literally saying, like, they did it on purpose?
tim pool
It looks like it.
unidentified
He was like, is that a part of the whatever they're doing?
tim pool
That was a Mexican Navy sailboat.
shane cashman
Yeah, it's Fleet Week, right?
tim pool
I don't know.
shane cashman
Where they have a bunch of ships at the...
tim pool
Oh, is that it?
shane cashman
Yeah.
That go there.
But like warships and stuff.
tim pool
If that's the best warship they got, don't worry, we'll protect you.
shane cashman
Why are they standing up there?
Do we know?
tim pool
It was some kind of promotional display.
phil labonte
Terrible ideas.
tim pool
Yeah, man.
shane cashman
Really bad idea.
And they beat up the bridge, right?
Pretty bad.
A lot of stuff has fallen off.
phil labonte
Yeah.
A lot of people got injured.
shane cashman
People were very afraid of the Brooklyn Bridge when they built it.
And Barnum Bailey...
Brought a bunch of elephants over it to prove that it wouldn't fall.
tim pool
Really?
shane cashman
Yeah.
tim pool
So apparently it wasn't supposed to go into the bridge.
They're still trying to figure out what happened.
What's with all these transportation accidents?
shane cashman
That's weird.
tim pool
It's like Trump gets in and he looks around and it's like someone's got to do transport and they're like, don't.
Give it to Duffy.
phil labonte
That's the Mexican military.
shane cashman
And the East River is crazy.
tim pool
So when we were doing interview requests for the White House...
I was like, we want to talk to Secretary Duffy because of all this transportation stuff that's been going on.
And the other secretary's like, yeah, no, a lot of people can talk about the border, a lot of them.
But the guy who's in charge of our waterways, our railways, our roads, and our skies, with all these train derailment, the plane crashes, now this?
What's going on?
Are we losing the ability to move?
phil labonte
Well, again, these are the Mexicans.
It's not our fault.
shane cashman
Yeah, but we're also not very good at it.
phil labonte
Well, fair enough.
I mean, there have been some issues.
shane cashman
Was that in Baltimore with that ship?
phil labonte
Well, yeah.
shane cashman
East Palestine with the train.
There was a bunch of trains that year.
phil labonte
Yeah.
That was a different administration, but, you know, fair enough.
Yeah.
shane cashman
Well, it's not even the administration.
It's like the Norfolk Southern was just a disaster, the way they ran their...
Oh, yeah.
Inspections of each freight car was dramatically shortened down to like 30 seconds.
It was a total mess.
And they could have avoided it.
phil labonte
30 seconds to inspect every train car?
shane cashman
Each one.
It used to be like a minute and a half or two minutes.
And they were like, after COVID, there's not a lot of people.
phil labonte
Yeah.
shane cashman
They were like, all right, just cut it down.
phil labonte
Yeah.
shane cashman
And the sensors stopped working.
Bless you.
The sensors stopped working to show the people monitoring the cameras when a wheel would be on fire.
phil labonte
Sick.
shane cashman
Yeah.
phil labonte
Great.
shane cashman
And they didn't have to blow it up either.
So there's just like a million things going against Norfolk Southern.
phil labonte
Yeah.
And I mean, like I said, that was...
I feel like Norfolk Southern was kind of an anomaly.
shane cashman
Norfolk Southern is the Boeing of the rail race.
unidentified
Did you see that Schumer also blamed it on Trump?
phil labonte
Oh, yeah.
The Mexican now.
shane cashman
How did he spin that?
tim pool
He said it was doge cuts.
unidentified
Yeah, doge cuts.
For Mexico and doge cuts, yeah.
phil labonte
Thanks, Chuck.
tim pool
One of the first departments that got cut was Mexico.
phil labonte
The Department of Mexico.
tim pool
That's right.
phil labonte
The Federal Department of Mexico.
tim pool
So Mexican naval funding was substantially impaired by Elon Musk getting in there.
unidentified
Yeah, right.
shane cashman
Without USAID.
tim pool
To be fair, that might not be a joke.
The federal government was probably dumping money into Mexico, just giving them money.
phil labonte
You know what it is?
No.
All of the stopping of the illegal crossing and preventing the fentanyl from coming in has massively affected the Mexican economy.
They're not selling the fentanyl.
The cartels aren't selling the fentanyl so they don't have the money to pay off the government and stuff.
tim pool
Or it was a retaliatory strike.
unidentified
Or maybe they were hiring DEI.
phil labonte
On the Brooklyn Bridge.
unidentified
They're still hiring DEI.
shane cashman
And wasn't it going towards the Manhattan Bridge next and then a bunch of ships?
Started a barrier.
tim pool
Really?
shane cashman
I saw an image of that.
I don't even know if it was real.
I'm just talking.
But I'm pretty sure.
Because it is right there.
The Manhattan Bridge is next.
And then the Queensborough, I believe, is right after that one.
Not cool.
phil labonte
I don't know.
shane cashman
Brooklyn Bridge is a beautiful bridge.
I love that bridge.
unidentified
It is.
shane cashman
And the East River is...
tim pool
It was only sailing for five minutes.
unidentified
Wow.
shane cashman
Yeah, because it probably left right across the river.
phil labonte
I heard someone making jokes.
I don't know if it's true, but I heard someone making jokes about the number of women that were in the crew as well.
tim pool
Was it a lot?
phil labonte
Yes.
unidentified
Oh, no.
shane cashman
Oh, man.
phil labonte
But again, I don't know how true it is.
I can't confirm that.
I thought it might have been just memeing.
shane cashman
Sounds right.
unidentified
Like that female flight crew that landed in Canada and flipped upside down?
tim pool
It wasn't all female.
I believe it was a female first officer and a male pilot.
And they came in hot.
And so this...
I don't know what ever happened to that, but that sounded like pilot error.
It looked like pilot error.
unidentified
It seemed like pilot error.
tim pool
So what happened with the plane that flipped over?
unidentified
I thought it was a female.
tim pool
Female was flying.
unidentified
I thought it was both.
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
And it was a male co-pilot who was giving instructions.
And when it landed, it came in so hot, the back gear just slammed.
So then it hits the ground.
And then when it starts spinning, of course, it's a tube.
It starts rolling over.
Yup.
unidentified
I heard she was arguing with him.
phil labonte
That was the flight that got hit by the DCA.
tim pool
She wasn't arguing.
She was told by air traffic control to descend and move left, and she didn't.
And then the instructor said the same thing.
And what people need to understand is we call that deer in the headlight syndrome.
I don't know what the actual term is for it, but have you guys ever been with someone where...
You know that scene from Austin Powers where they're in the steamroller and they're like...
A hundred feet away, and the guy goes, and then the steamroller's going real slow, and they're like, move!
And he doesn't, and they crush him.
That's a joke, but that happens to people.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
They're driving their car.
The deer runs out.
No, it's like they get paralyzed.
unidentified
Flight.
tim pool
Well, like...
unidentified
Freeze.
Fight, flight, or freeze, I think, is what I...
tim pool
A deer will run to the road, and they just won't do anything.
It's like, slam the brakes on them.
unidentified
Boom.
Yeah.
tim pool
I mean, how do car accidents happen in the first place?
Now you put one of these people in a helicopter, and what do you get?
She sees the lights coming in, and she's just like, I don't know what to do.
Boom.
phil labonte
Mm-hmm.
tim pool
That's probably what happened with the Mexican Navy ship.
shane cashman
Yeah.
tim pool
For real.
They're heading towards the bridge, and the person captaining the ship is like, I don't know what to do.
We're going to write for it.
phil labonte
I mean, maybe, but also those ships like that don't stop easily.
unidentified
Who the captain was?
shane cashman
Yeah.
Was it on a tugboat?
unidentified
Have they said who the captain was?
shane cashman
It was a tugboat?
I thought there was a tugboat pulling it as well.
tim pool
I mean, it would make sense.
It had no sails and it was a sailboat.
shane cashman
So who was driving the tugboat?
tim pool
Man.
shane cashman
It's a mess.
They were distracted by all the women taking selfies.
phil labonte
I don't see anything about whether or not it was on...
I'm reading Axios' write-up on it.
I don't see anything about it being on the tugboat.
Pointed out to some mechanical issues that likely preceded the crash, but officials emphasized that the information was preliminary.
unidentified
How do you not ensure...
tim pool
I think I was going to talk about afterwards.
unidentified
...that the height of the sails...
On Saturday, a Mexican Navy ship on a Goodwill tour left a New York City pier bound for Iceland.
Four minutes later, it crashed into the Brooklyn Bridge.
tim pool
Or it has one.
unidentified
Here's what happened.
The Cuauhtémoc had been docked on the lower east side of Manhattan for four days, open to visitors looking for a cultural experience.
As the ship prepared to leave on Saturday night, a tugboat arrived to escort it out of its pier at 8.20 p.m.
The ship's bow, the front of the vessel, faced Manhattan, meaning it would need to back out of its berth into the East River.
As the Kwau-Temok pulled away from shore, the tugboat appeared to push the side of the ship, helping to pivot the bow south toward its intended route.
The river was flowing Ah.
And the wind was blowing in roughly the same direction, potentially pushing the ship toward a collision.
Photos and videos.
suggest the tugboat was not tied to the ship, limiting its ability to pull the ship away from the bridge.
The Quauhtémoc began to drift north.
Back first, up the river.
Dr. Salvatore Mercogliano, who's an adjunct professor at the U.S. Merchant Marine Academy, told The Times that the ship appeared to be giving off a wake.
This suggests its propellers may have been running in reverse, pushing it faster toward the bridge.
The tugboat sped alongside the ship as it headed north, possibly trying to get in front of it and help the ship maneuver the other way.
But it was unable to cut the ship off or reverse its course.
All three masts crashed into the underside of the Brooklyn Bridge at approximately 8.24 p.m., four minutes after the ship had left the pier, causing the top sails to collapse.
Crew members standing on the masts during the collision were thrown off entirely.
Others remained hanging from their harnesses.
A New York City patrol boat arrived about eight minutes after the collision, followed quickly by a fire department boat.
Additional law enforcement and emergency medical services removed the wounded for treatment.
According to the Mexican Navy, two of the 227 people aboard the ship were killed and 22 others were injured.
tim pool
Well, there you go.
Looks like they were reversing into it.
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Alpha2Omega says, Howdy, people.
Howdy, people.
Discovery of Joe's cancer.
I bet Democrats cut deals similar to his career or protect his family for free reign.
The buck stops at leadership protection.
Can't prosecute the dead.
unidentified
Ooh.
Mm-hmm.
tim pool
Rue Actual says, cash in Bongino Boyar establishment cucks.
You have to be...
We'll save the rest of that one for the uncensored.
But he says, no one would believe that.
No accountability for anyone that isn't a peasant.
Crazy, man.
I don't know.
I still trust Cash and Dan.
I think they got our best interests at heart.
I do.
unidentified
I do too.
tim pool
But we'll see.
We'll see.
I mean, no one's ever going to be perfect for you.
Let's see what we got.
Potter89 says, you all discussing how long Biden has known about his cancer, please.
It's as long as FDR could walk.
His whole life?
He was born with cancer?
I don't feel bad for the memes I made making fun of Biden.
I feel bad that he was used as a puppet.
And I'm pissed at the gaslighting that was done.
Saying that we were crazy for questioning his health.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Misa Mori says, Autopen is for Christmas cards, not legal documents.
unidentified
Exactly.
tim pool
How absurd this idea that you're going to have a machine sign for you.
Nah.
That should be illegal.
Void all Autopen.
unidentified
Oh.
Yep.
tim pool
Quantum Strange Quark says, remember when Obama repeatedly tried to get Biden not to run for president in 2019?
Did they know about his cancer then?
Yeah, Obama said, Joe, you don't have to do this.
unidentified
Yeah, that's a good point.
I bet you they did.
tim pool
Jacob Bali says, how do we know it was him doing executive orders, signing legislation, or even ordering troops movements?
This could potentially have been an administrative coup if the executive orders, pardons, and legislation signatures turned out to be fake crime.
unidentified
Agreed.
tim pool
Completely agree.
unidentified
I think they've already proven that all the signatures are auto-pin, right?
They put them all over the overlap.
tim pool
On the pardons.
unidentified
Oh, yeah, on the pardons.
tim pool
Not every single thing.
unidentified
All right, let's see what we got here.
tim pool
Greg Dubier says, Adam Ruins Everything episode backfire effect why people reject new information.
The episode talks about how bombarding someone with facts can entrench them further.
That is exactly what I saw on last week's Culture War.
Are you saying that because I was exposing Adam to a bunch of facts, he just dug in deeper?
I don't think that's what it was.
I think Sargon of Akkad did an excellent breakdown on that episode saying that effectively we have these two dominant worldviews.
One is based on adhering to your social circle, and one is truth.
And he said Tim Pool, formerly of that circle, but committed to truth, was forced out of it for committing to truth.
I'm not in your bubble.
He's retreating to, I can never say Trump is good.
Trump was bad when I could say he was bad.
Now that you present a situation where I can't say he's bad, I'm going to say neutral, I don't know.
Because you can never go into Trump is right territory.
unidentified
Isn't that just TDS?
Like, on full display?
tim pool
Yeah, I think it's wokeness.
It's what wokeness is, the tribalism.
unidentified
It's derangement.
It's a mental derangement where literally a person cannot allow their mind...
To even conceive of anything opposite of what they've built up in their brain over...
tim pool
It's too common to be a derangement.
No, no, no.
Adam does not qualify in that regard.
Adam knows he's wrong.
Adam knows he's upholding a false narrative.
His values are in adhering to a social tribe.
So, he can literally go...
unidentified
Isn't that a derangement?
phil labonte
No.
tim pool
No.
He is cognizant of what he is doing.
It's called lying.
unidentified
I think it's a deception.
tim pool
Sure, but that's not derangement.
Derangement is like you can't even process it.
And those people exist.
But I think that gives people like Adam too much credit, implying that he's incapable of understanding because his brain is broken.
No, no, no, no.
He knows he's lying to people.
He is conscious of the fact.
unidentified
So he's...
tim pool
Evil.
unidentified
Choosing, intentionally choosing deception to try to deceive and lie and ignore the truth.
I mean, I still think it's a type of derangement.
I mean, to me, it's still evil.
It's evil.
I agree with 110%.
It's evil.
tim pool
It's evil.
The issue is, logically, you can go to Adam and say 1 plus 1 equals 2 and go, right.
2 plus 2 equals 4. Yes.
Okay, now publicly state 2 plus 2 equals 4. No, I'll say it's 5. Why?
Because I don't want to piss off people on the left.
They're cognizant of the world they live in.
So shortly after that show aired, I asked him on the show because he brought up Russia.
And I said, okay, let me ask you, like, what's the most amount of money you got paid to do a show?
I mean, you know, Adam, he had a massive show.
He's getting like 10 to 20 million hits per episode.
It's a big show.
And he was like, well, I can't say much, but I will be able to soon.
And then sure enough, what happens?
He announces he was paid by WorldCoin, that WorldID cryptocurrency thing.
And he got roasted for it.
And so he apologized, said that he rejected the money, and he's going to make a video breaking down what happened.
He was like, I'm not getting paid to endorse it.
They're paying me to come here and do this event and ask questions about what's going on.
Yeah, that's called an endorsement.
And so he got roasted and he apologized.
Did he apologize to anybody about being wrong about the things that he was saying on the show?
phil labonte
No.
tim pool
He apologized for taking money from a thing the left didn't like.
He had no issues with the left appearing on my show.
They don't care.
On the right...
They're highlighting these videos.
They're getting millions of views.
They're saying, look, Tim Pool is showing liberals don't know about the very fine people hoax.
No one on the left will attack him because he did what the cult wanted him to do.
Rejected the truth to uphold the narrative.
He values his cult.
I value the truth.
I don't care if the left gets mad at me for it or the right gets mad at me for it.
I am going to say, here's what, to the best of my ability, I believe is true.
And that tends to be the right.
The MAGA, the Trump side, the conservative side.
The liberal side tends to be the, I don't care what's true.
I care about being on the right side.
AOC said it.
AOC said being morally right over factually correct.
Was that what she said?
unidentified
I think so, yeah.
tim pool
Something like that.
unidentified
Morally right over factually correct.
tim pool
Yep.
And that shows you exactly what the woke cult is.
unidentified
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
They live in a fantasy world that makes no sense.
Their plans, their policies will burn things and destroy it, but it doesn't matter so long as everyone is holding hands in agreement.
That's what they want to say.
Cult.
unidentified
Cult.
100%.
Demonic cult.
Yep.
It's just a spirit of deception, too.
tim pool
Common Sense Fishing says holding Trump's, Cassius, and Dan's feet to the fire over the Epstein list is substantially more important than an obvious cover-up of Biden's infirmity, which we all knew.
Why not one arrest on Epstein list is by far worse?
No justice.
I think the strongest probability is that they've got tens of thousands of videos like Pam Bondi said.
Yeah, and I bet you're going to find that there's going to be tons of executives, C-suite dudes, princes, and I think it goes beyond just people's 401ks get wiped out.
I think they're going to be like, yeah, there's a prince from...
You know, Saudi Arabia on there.
And if he gets, if that information leaks, they're going to start pumping oil and they're going to cut off the petrodollar.
Then we're going to expose these, like, so they're all just basically saying, let's let sleeping dogs lie.
I think that's what they're doing.
You know, and I'll say this too.
We in the United States have laws on agents of consent.
Other countries don't.
There are a lot of countries that don't.
And those world leaders are going to be flying and hanging out with Epstein all the same.
So they don't want to look bad on a global stage, but they don't have the same laws barring it.
So the issue is largely in the U.S. that these people would be exposed in their own countries.
They might have been thinking when they engage in these behaviors, who cares?
This is normal in my country.
unidentified
Well, then they shouldn't care if it gets leaked.
tim pool
Except it could destroy their company or put treaties at risk.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Yep.
phil labonte
And also people need to remember that the...
The situation with whether or not Epstein killed himself is independent of the names on the list and whether or not they are released and whether or not there are arrests.
Those two issues are completely and totally isolated.
There should be arrests.
They should be exposing people that are at least under U.S. laws because Prince Philip, obviously, he was...
Essentially excommunicated from all of his royal duties because of the implications.
And I'm sure that there are far more.
So those people should be exposed.
If you can't expose everybody or they're not going to expose everybody, I mean, maybe that's fine because of different cultures and the way it's going to be perceived in their own home countries.
But that doesn't speak for all of them.
unidentified
Right.
shane cashman
I just want accountability.
phil labonte
Yeah.
shane cashman
For the people we can hold accountable in this country.
phil labonte
Definitely people from the West, Americans, absolutely.
They should be exposed.
shane cashman
Like Bill Gates.
phil labonte
I mean, if it's Bill Gates.
Right?
unidentified
Exactly.
phil labonte
I got no love for any of it.
shane cashman
Before he blocks the sun, I'd like to put him in prison.
unidentified
Yeah.
Releases more mosquitoes.
shane cashman
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
My name is Yeet says, Jeff Dunham did a mock presidential debate along with a parody using Walter as Joe Biden.
A parody called Fireside Shats.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
Did he really?
That's amazing.
All right.
I've never been a big Jeff Dunham fan, but now I am if that's true.
All right.
P. Soupy?
Is that how you say that?
What if the reason Joe called a lid every day at noon was due to having cancer treatments and or recovering?
You're right, Tim, when you say it was a coup.
Was a couple?
I think you mean coup, right?
Autocorrect.
shane cashman
Totally agree.
tim pool
St. Miles says, Tim did a mic drop on the MSM that day during the press conference.
It was rough because I was like thinking of a question.
And there were a couple ways to ask it.
And I was like, okay, I think I have a general idea.
And then I sat down and they told me I was coming in.
You're going to have the first question, so you'll sit down.
She's going to, you know, Carolyn's going to go over the stuff that they're presenting and then immediately introduce you and ask you the question.
I said, okay.
But that's not what happened.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
No, she introduced a 40-year member of the corporate press who was retiring and gave a standing ovation.
And so now I'm sitting there being like...
I'm supposed to make fun of these people?
Like, rag on these people?
shane cashman
Couldn't have happened at a better time.
tim pool
And they're all clapping and cheering for these women?
shane cashman
It's the perfect time to do it.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, here we go.
shane cashman
Exactly.
unidentified
You got your standing ovation.
Now we're going to get to the wrong tactic.
tim pool
The annoying thing to me about it was that when Elad joined the press pool, and he's just a journalist.
He doesn't host a big show.
He asks people very standard questions.
He's never done anything.
Like, there's no reason to rag on him.
When he got access to the press pool, they started attacking me and him mercilessly.
And I'm like, this is ridiculously unprofessional behavior.
This is just another news organization.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
The reality is the corporate press is not a news – they're not news organizations.
They may as well be fraternities or sororities.
I mean in a literal sense.
You want to join the club to be in the party, and that's all that matters.
Then you got to make sure that you adhere to the narrative.
Master Matt says, Hey y 'all, Toad, the man behind the viral cover of the NHH, has officially been fired from his job and is seeking legal counsel.
Let's get him out of Boston.
I saw the video.
It's stupid.
He was obviously making a joke playing a ukulele song of a funny viral moment that was like...
I don't think it was supportive of anything.
I think he was just mocking the whole thing.
Doing a ukulele cover.
It was funny.
And he lost his job for it, but my first question was...
Why did he work for a bunch of woke leftists?
Like, I think he was wrong, and I think we should help him out for sure.
I'm just saying, like, to be fair, this is entirely predictable.
You know?
shane cashman
Yeah.
I didn't know he was in, I think it says Massachusetts.
I'm like, oh, that place is, that's a captured state.
Mostly, right?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
phil labonte
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, I left Massachusetts in 2011.
You know?
I mean, we've still got the studio there, but I don't live there.
My family lives there.
shane cashman
Right.
unidentified
You know?
phil labonte
Look, he knows where he works.
He knows what it's like.
He shouldn't have been fired.
shane cashman
I think it's a blessing.
I think this is going to be great.
phil labonte
I don't know what his personal situation is like, so I can't say that.
But, look, you know what the culture is where you work.
And you know that if you're going to upset people.
I don't know what his life is like.
And he shouldn't have been fired.
I'm not saying it was a good thing.
Kind of is his own dumb fault.
shane cashman
Toad's got to put out a whole album of ukulele songs now.
That's all he does.
He puts out ukulele songs.
I guess you can't really sell covers, right?
If there are other...
Can you?
tim pool
I think you can, actually.
shane cashman
How does that work?
tim pool
Well, it depends on how you do it, but I do think that if they sign off on it, usually...
shane cashman
Kanye has to sign off on his song for Toad.
unidentified
So...
tim pool
I don't know that you can sell it in the same extent that you would if it was an original song, but I do think you're allowed to monetize in certain ways.
phil labonte
Yeah, you get a certain amount of, they call it mechanical royalties for the performance.
You don't get songwriter royalties.
You get mechanicals for the actual performance of it.
tim pool
Yeah.
On YouTube specifically, you are allowed to make money off of doing cover songs.
phil labonte
That's how we get paid for doing the Garth Brooks cover.
We did the Thunder Rules, and I get paid for that because it's mechanical.
It's for our performance of it, not for writing it.
shane cashman
Tom Segura says he's a serial killer.
What do you think?
phil labonte
Tom Segura says...
Who is?
shane cashman
Garth Brooks.
Look it up, people, after the show.
Go down that rabbit hole with Tom Segura.
tim pool
We'll pull that up in the uncensored portion.
shane cashman
Please do it, because it's true.
tim pool
Why does he think that?
shane cashman
He just has a weird history of bodies.
tim pool
Really?
shane cashman
Yeah.
tim pool
Kind of like a Clinton body count thing?
shane cashman
I think maybe worse.
And Taylor Swift could be the next one.
unidentified
We'll see.
tim pool
The next victim?
shane cashman
No, no, no.
The next Garth Brooks.
tim pool
Why is that?
shane cashman
Because she's a clone of the daughter of the founder of the Church of Satan.
tim pool
She was cloned?
shane cashman
Yes.
Have you not seen this theory?
tim pool
No.
shane cashman
It's Anton LaVey's daughter.
Look her up.
unidentified
What?
You heard it here on IRL.
shane cashman
Very important news that Taylor Swift is related to Anton LaVey.
I believe it.
phil labonte
You don't say.
tim pool
I remember when Shane tried convincing me that clouds are manufactured in factories.
shane cashman
And then you went to Alaska.
phil labonte
I did.
shane cashman
And you saw a cloud factory.
phil labonte
The moon is not real.
tim pool
When I was little, in Chicago, there were plants that would have steam coming out of the smokestacks that my parents would jokingly call the cloud factories.
And then Shane was talking about how clouds are fake.
And when I was in Alaska, what was it, like two years ago?
shane cashman
Yeah, a few years ago.
tim pool
They had probably power plants, but it's very cold.
So steam is coming out, but the steam actually was making clouds.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
And so I sent a video.
But it was crazy because it's so cold, there's no clouds, except for this steam stack that comes up, and then it spreads out massively.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Yeah, it was pretty crazy to see.
I was like, oh, wow.
But it was fairly obvious what it was.
Steam being blasted in the sky and then spreading out.
shane cashman
Godmaker.
There are vintage clouds, though.
God-made are vintage clouds.
james comer
They're still out there.
tim pool
What are those?
shane cashman
Just old-school Genesis clouds when he was making Earth.
Just like, boom, clouds.
But those have been messed up by Forever Chemicals and, you know, the atom bomb, stuff like that.
tim pool
Maybe chemtrails are trying to bring the old-school clouds back.
shane cashman
No, chemtrails are another subset of fake cloud.
There's like a hierarchy of fake clouds, and that's a whole other issue that we need to deal with.
I'm looking for Maha to actually take care of chemtrails pretty soon.
But they're doing it.
unidentified
She asked R.K. Jr. pretty directly.
She asked a great question to R.K. Jr.
She put it out there.
She was like, the strontium, barium, some woman.
It was like a city...
Town hall kind of discussion, and RK Jr. was just answering questions to the audience, and the lady was like, what about geoengineering, you know, the chemtrails, the barium, strontium, aluminum that they're spraying in the air, and they call it cloud seeding, but all that stuff lands on the ground, and it makes the ground and any fires go that much faster.
Like, I was in the car fire in Northern California.
It went right through my neighborhood.
It took out 50 homes in my neighborhood.
And it was across the river, and we were watching the news, and they were like, yeah, it's probably not going to jump the 100 feet river.
And then later in the afternoon, all the power cut out.
And I went outside, and the police were driving through the neighborhood saying, get out.
And my wife took off.
And I was like, I'm going to get pictures, and I'm getting some stuff.
And I loaded up as much as I could in my car until the police literally stopped.
In front of the house on the bullhorn.
It was like, get out.
And I ran out and looked.
I could see the flames over my house.
tim pool
Well, you do know how fast they can travel 70 miles an hour.
unidentified
It was going fast.
And I got out of there.
tim pool
There was that wildfire firefighters who were very famous.
And the fire moved so quickly across the top of the trees at the speed of the wind.
So when you have high winds, 70, 80 miles an hour, the fire is just shooting straight across.
And you're standing there in what you think is a safe area.
And then you see the fire just go.
And so they drop down and pull the mylar sheets over them and then I'll burn to death.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
So what happens with these wildfires is that same thing with tornadoes, man.
People don't understand what these events are like.
They've not been in them.
And so when the police are like, you need to evacuate now, they're like, I can see the fire over there, I'll be fine.
And then in 30 seconds, it shoots straight across the lawn or the trees, and then you can't get out.
unidentified
Now add the chemicals, the aluminum, the nanoparticles that settle on the ground, everywhere they spray, to that fire, and you've got something that's not natural.
tim pool
In Ferguson during the riots, when they torched the whole street, West Florissant, all the buildings were on fire.
When you drove down the street...
In your car, you could feel the fire on your face through the windows.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
It's like the thermal and UV radiation just going through the car.
It was nuts.
Because you're in the middle of the street and these buildings are recessed off the street.
It's like sidewalk and everything.
And the fires were so massive that through the window it felt like I was in front of a campfire.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Yeah.
I don't know if you've ever been near a very, very large fire.
It's crazy.
I was in...
Belfast, during the bonfire night they do, and they have like a hundred foot tall, just like tinder, and they do these all over Belfast and light up these massive towers.
It's crazy how the heat is, it's like a hundred feet away and you're feeling like you're up against a campfire.
It's just massive, blasting off.
It's nuts.
Yeah, crazy stuff.
Alright, let's grab a couple more here.
What have we?
Uh-oh.
YouTube's giving me the business.
There we go.
What have we here?
Common Sense Fishing says, Regarding First Amendment and free speech regarding sex AI ban, may I remind you, revenge porn is illegal, so should AI-generated sexual images.
Ah, ah, ah.
Revenge porn is you exposing private details of a person without their consent.
The AI stuff is, like, if I drew a picture of a guy, am I going to go to jail?
Like, if I drew a picture of, like, Taylor Swift naked and then published it on the, I posted it to the internet, like, look, I drew a picture of this, you go to jail for that?
Is AI the limit?
shane cashman
I don't think so.
With that.
tim pool
If you drew a picture?
unidentified
What if it was photorealistic?
tim pool
Have you seen those photorealistic drawings people do?
What if someone made a photorealistic picture of some naked celebrity doing something untoward to herself?
I'm going to jail for that?
I'm not saying it's good that people do that, but, you know.
All right, my friends, we're going to go to that Uncensored call-in show.
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And Dave, you want to shout anything out?
unidentified
Yeah, don't forget to follow me, David J. Harris Jr. on all my social media channels.
Also, I know we're doing a plug because you guys have tried my cookies, right?
You tried our cookies?
tim pool
Oh, they were amazing, dude.
I had the Wookiee.
unidentified
We have protein cookies that do not taste like protein.
DoubleDavids.com, my partner and I have launched this.
Actually doing the shout-out first right here on your show, Tim.
And I'd love to potentially make some stuff for you to go along with your amazing coffee.
tim pool
Yeah, let's get it.
unidentified
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Only 1,000 of them available.
But my partner is a genius chef.
He handled all of the pastries for Starbucks for North America for like 15 years.
Sold the company before they really went woke.
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Had a five-year non-compete, so we're now working on this together.
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tim pool
Right on, man.
unidentified
Yeah.
The only other thing is, do you need a gold sponsor?
I got one.
tim pool
Oh, we have a gold sponsor.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
unidentified
I got one, too.
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tim pool
Thanks for hanging out.
unidentified
All right.
shane cashman
Awesome.
That was a fun one.
The show is Inverted World Live Sundays at 6 on YouTube and Rumble.
I'm going to promote an old episode right now, considering everything with Biden in the news.
Episode 23, we do a deep dive on Joe Biden, Bo Biden, his weird turbo cancer, and the connections to the DuPont family, which are insane.
So check that out.
phil labonte
Phil.
My name, I am PhilItRemains on Twix.
I'm PhilItRemainsOfficial on Instagram.
The band is All That Remains.
You can check out our newest release.
It's called Antifragile.
You can check it out on YouTube, Apple Music, Amazon Music, Spotify, Pandora, and Deezer.
Jeez, I can't speak tonight.
Don't forget the left lane is for crying.
tim pool
We'll see you all over at Rumble.com slash TimCastIRL in about 30 seconds.
Thanks for hanging out.
Garth Brooks is a serial killer, huh?
shane cashman
Yeah, pull it up.
tim pool
Apple Podcasts.
The last podcast on the left.
What is this?
Why is it all...
Man, this is so stupid.
I was researching the Garth Brooks is a serial killer rumor started by Tom Segura.
I found these videos about Tom possibly being a serial killer himself.
shane cashman
Oh, nice!
unidentified
What?
tim pool
They're all just serial killers.
shane cashman
Counter-accusations now.
Serial killers recognize serial killers.
That's how he knew Garth was.
They went to Ed Kemper to talk about other serial killers so they can profile each other.
tim pool
Is there any actual evidence he's a serial killer?
shane cashman
I don't think so, but I'd like to think there is.
There was something that happened with him a year ago with some crazy accusations and people were saying that this definitely proves it.
I forget what Tom Segura was saying.
tim pool
Who are the celebrities that we think are most likely to be this generation's John Wilkes Booth?
Let me rephrase that.
Who are we most concerned about in terms of Hollywood celebrities who have severe TDS and maybe a threat to the president?
shane cashman
Rosie O'Donnell.
tim pool
But she's gone.
unidentified
Johnny Depp.
shane cashman
Johnny Depp did literally say we shouldn't take him out.
tim pool
Wow.
shane cashman
First administration.
Madonna as well, you're right.
tim pool
Did he scream Six Semper Tyrannus?
shane cashman
Yeah.
tim pool
Tyrannus?
phil labonte
Emilio Estevez, right?
shane cashman
Wait, what?
tim pool
Emilio Estevez?
unidentified
Really?
phil labonte
No, I forget his name.
tim pool
Mark Ruffalo and Luke.
phil labonte
Oh, Ruffalo.
tim pool
Ruffalo and Hamill.
Mark and Mark.
phil labonte
Ruffalo, definitely.
tim pool
Man, these people are fucking brain rot.
They are retarded.
How does that happen?
phil labonte
Just sitting around the same people, having the same opinions, talking to the same people.
unidentified
No alternative point of view around them whatsoever.
tim pool
You know what I think it is?
I was telling that story about that woman I knew.
Who was insisting that trans men are men.
I told you this story?
shane cashman
I don't think so.
tim pool
It was like 10 years ago.
And she was like, trans men are men.
I was talking to her on Facebook, and I was just like, well, trans men are trans men, but they're female.
And she's like, no, they're not.
They're men.
And I was like, oh, they got lady parts.
And she was like, but that's not what makes them a man.
And I was like, yeah, but I mean, you wouldn't date a trans man, would you?
And she was like, yeah, I would, because they're a man.
And I was like, so you're into like...
phil labonte
Lady parts?
tim pool
She's like, I could learn.
And then I said, isn't that conversion therapy, like trying to make someone learn how to like something they don't normally like?
She got super pissed off.
I don't think that she actually believed it.
I think, I genuinely think she knew what she was saying was retarded, but she doesn't want to break from society.
They don't want to be outside the social sphere.
So I think a lot of these actors that have TDS...
No, they're full of shit.
shane cashman
Yeah.
tim pool
But don't want to admit it.
unidentified
They have to know.
tim pool
Right.
unidentified
They have to know.
phil labonte
I wonder if there's a correlation between the people that are the most vocally against Trump being aware that they're the most full of shit.
Like the most cognizant of the fact that they're just lying all the time.
unidentified
I know somebody, personally, friend, worked with Snoop, Snoop Dogg, on tour with him.
And said he does not believe.
I mean, now he went to the post-inauguration party for Trump.
But before that, it was F Trump, it's all this crap, it's kill him.
He did the video where he's like, fake assassination, and it's F all you Trump people and yada yada.
And Snoop is actually the one that also posted that image of myself, Candace was on there, the Hodge twins, Terrence Williams.
It's like nine of us and called us the Coon Bunch.
Jeez.
Snoop posted that on Instagram back in like 2018, 19, something like that.
But I know somebody personally that knows him, toured with him, and they said he's not like that behind closed doors.
He's 100% not like that.
tim pool
Full of shit.
unidentified
Totally full.
He's totally full of it.
He's doing it because that's his base.
tim pool
They're evil.
unidentified
And he'd get his black card from Hollywood and everything else pulled if he actually shared.
To me, that's the definition of selling your soul.
You've sold your soul to the devil, which is darkness, which is deception and lying for money.
When you believe one thing, you're doing the other.
Yeah, you've sold your soul.
phil labonte
I mean, look, he's hanging out with Martha Stewart now.
Yeah.
unidentified
But now apparently he's coming around a little bit, and he took a little bit of heat.
And then he's like clapping back at the heat he's taken for being at the inauguration party for Trump.
shane cashman
So Ebro is trying to struggle session him.
unidentified
Yeah.
And he's trying to, it's like, you know what?
Be real.
Be authentic.
Stand up for truth.
phil labonte
I can't think of a time in American history where there's been so much social pressure to fall in line.
Like, there's an argument that can be made that...
The 80s and 70s, well, the 80s, there was a lot of pressure from the Christian right, but they never had the ability to prevent people from doing things or expressing themselves the way that the left has.
I don't think they ever had the influence, not in modern history, maybe back in the day they could have, in the 1800s, maybe, but like...
Even in the 80s, when I was a little kid, there was still all these metal bands that were totally irreverent, doing the whole Satan thing and stuff.
And it's like, the Christian right could never shut them down or convince them that their jobs were in danger.
There was always a market for counterculture.
Until the teens...
And then the market for counterculture was almost totally stamped out.
For a few years, it was really, really, really dangerous to be the people that would step out and say, you know, this is BS.
This whole woke shit is garbage.
And it was a very, very small...
I mean, there was some counterculture, but it was very small.
Very, very small.
And it was not lucrative for a little while.
It took a minute for people to be like, hold on a second.
Maybe it's okay to be hanging out and talking to the people that are like, F this.
There was a time where Ben Shapiro was very, very irreverent.
You'd think this really milquetoast, conservative, orthodox Jew.
shane cashman
Early Breitbart school.
phil labonte
Yeah, exactly.
shane cashman
All those guys.
phil labonte
Those guys were really, really irreverent for a while.
And it was really dangerous to be in any kind of entertainment field and say that you were doing that.
Like, I got so much hell.
Tons of people were like, you know, F you.
A bunch of people were friends of mine that stopped being friends of mine.
There were people that said some of the most atrocious stuff in the aughts that once the teens came around.
They were making, they were saying, oh, you can't say that, Phil.
How can you say that?
How can you say that and say that this isn't blah, blah, blah?
And I'm like, bro, are you even the same person you were?
shane cashman
Have any of them come around and apologize?
Not a single one?
phil labonte
Not a one.
shane cashman
What about you?
Anyone who's like denounced you?
unidentified
So I would say one of the, one that hit the closest to home, because if I don't know you, I really give two flips what you think about me anyway.
I don't care.
But I did actually get a text message from my cousin's husband that I had spent time with at their home in the Bay Area a lot of time.
Like I was working in that area and I lived with them for a little while.
And obviously on my dad's side, black side of my family.
And after I first started supporting Trump, it's probably like 17, 18, he texted me and he's all, when did you start hating black people?
I said, what?
Are you kidding me?
You know me.
What is wrong with you, right?
So that individual, probably a year ago, I would say it was an olive branch because he texted me.
And he texted me out of the blue about something else.
But the fact that he texted me was like an olive branch.
And then later, he texted me and he said something like, you know, kudos for you sticking to your beliefs.
You know?
shane cashman
That's nice.
phil labonte
Actually, Shane, when I take that back, there was one dude, the guy from Rockfeet.
shane cashman
Oh, yeah.
phil labonte
And I didn't realize, like, there was a time where I was taking hell from everybody.
shane cashman
Right.
phil labonte
Especially because of how active I was on Twitter.
And he, I guess he was throwing some heat at me, and I just blocked him.
Like, I didn't think anything of it.
We didn't get into it.
I was just like, whatever, you know, and just blew it off.
Then, a couple years later, after all, after the George Floyd stuff, after kind of, you know, 2020, when people were like, whoa, some shit's going on, he hit me up and he's like, hey.
shane cashman
Incredible.
phil labonte
I said some things, and I was wrong.
And blah, blah, blah.
I'm like, dude, to be honest with you, I literally don't even remember it.
So it's totally cool.
No sweat.
And we've been totally...
shane cashman
You said Rockfeet?
phil labonte
Yeah.
shane cashman
That's the only music blog I care about.
phil labonte
Yeah, he's awesome.
shane cashman
Love that.
Love Rockfeet.
phil labonte
He was a little bit on the woke tip for a minute.
And he kind of was like...
He hit me up and he's like, hey, my bad.
And I was like, like I said, I don't really remember it.
He wasn't that bad.
shane cashman
He brought back Crossfade.
phil labonte
He did bring back Crossfade!
tim pool
Let's go to callers.
We'll start with Brian, the major threat.
What is up?
phil labonte
Yo?
unidentified
Sorry I'm here.
Couldn't get to my mouse fast enough.
phil labonte
Hello!
What's up?
unidentified
Hey, my question tonight is for David.
How you doing, sir?
Good.
How are you doing, brother?
I am doing alright.
Hey, I've been seeing a lot of, I've been seeing the term black fatigue being thrown around a lot on X lately.
Usually slapped on the videos of black individuals involved in crime or violent behavior.
I think that kind of usage is fair or is it just another way social media distorts a very serious conversation?
Well, I have not seen that, so I'm not exactly sure if they're using black fatigue.
I don't know what kind of reference that is.
I have noticed that there are a lot of individuals.
There's a lot of posts where they're showing black individuals that just acted ghetto.
They're just acting stupid.
And it's like, I look at that, and I say, I wasn't raised that way.
I was raised with a dad that would whoop my butt if I got out of line.
And I see and understand that a majority of the black community has been raised fatherless and take that all the way back to FDR and the Great Society and that whole push.
And so what I try to always then back up a little bit and look at is that it shows the need for parents, it shows the need for fathers, and it shows the need for Jesus.
Because I think at the end of the day, there's a massive spiritual battle at play to breed division in our country.
and I see these massive pages and they're highlighting all these scenarios of black violence and just stupid black stuff and it's black on black crime.
And I've been a champion of, hey, black on black crime has nothing to do with the white man for years and trying to wake people up.
So I'm not exactly sure what the whole black fatigue is other than if it's just people.
Black, white, or otherwise that are fatigued at seeing all the absolute stupid ghetto fights and squabbles that happen on social media, and that's just what you see on social media.
So that's really how I could speak to that, brother.
It's really ghetto fatigue, though.
What's that?
So it's really ghetto fatigue, though.
Yeah, for real.
Yeah, I'd say that's better.
Ghetto fatigue, yeah.
I think Jasmine Crockett has ghetto fatigue, too.
She can't help herself.
tim pool
That's fake, though.
unidentified
That is fake ghetto.
100% it's fake ghetto.
tim pool
That video went viral where she was talking like this and said, you know, when they came to me and said I should run for Congress, I gotta talk like this!
unidentified
Or that was fake and she was trying to get in Congress because she was trying to whitewash herself a little bit.
tim pool
The ghetto thing is fake.
unidentified
She's as fake as AOC is from the hood.
tim pool
Yup.
Brian, did you want to add anything or shout anything out?
unidentified
Nothing to add.
Thank you for your answer, sir.
To shout anything out, hey, I allegedly produced a little news podcast on AK's network called Sunset Rants.
Check it out.
Anyway, have a good one, y 'all.
Thanks for having me on.
Cheers, brother.
Thanks for calling in, brother.
God bless.
tim pool
Next up, we got Dostrum159.
You are on the program.
unidentified
What's up, man?
joe biden
The program.
unidentified
How's everyone doing tonight?
phil labonte
Doing well.
tim pool
We do well.
Superman does good.
That's our joke.
That joke.
unidentified
Well, you guys kind of dove into it earlier about the recent Dan and Cash interview.
My opinion on that is that Cash seems to be kind of acting smug.
He just kind of changed his tune on the whole situation.
But at the same time, acting like he's always been that way.
And then Dan looks like he's held hostage to me, or like he's got family members held hostage.
I'd just kind of like to hear your guys' opinion on that.
tim pool
I don't think Cash changed his opinion.
Pretty sure.
Hasn't Cash always said that Epstein killed himself?
shane cashman
I haven't looked.
I thought he said he didn't.
But I could be wrong.
tim pool
I remember when we interviewed Cash, right before we interviewed Trump, Luke had mentioned some things about Cash having opinions that he thought were fairly mainstream.
phil labonte
Luke was in the chat saying that Cash and Dan are both compromised now.
tim pool
Because I know that Cash was saying he didn't want to pardon Assange.
That was a big deal.
shane cashman
Right.
tim pool
Yeah, and I thought it was great.
I thought Cash was being honest with us.
I thought he wasn't blowing smoke up our ass.
shane cashman
Right.
tim pool
And I was like, he's kind of a moderate guy.
He's not some abolish the FBI guy.
shane cashman
He said he was going to turn the building into a museum.
unidentified
Yeah, he did.
tim pool
And they're doing it.
shane cashman
Into a museum?
I don't believe in the Hoover building now.
tim pool
Right, right, right.
Yeah, but was that a turn of phrase?
Was he saying, like, we're going to get out of there?
shane cashman
I was hoping for a museum.
phil labonte
I don't care if it's a museum, but I like the idea of getting the FBI out of D.C. He said it was dangerous.
shane cashman
Did you take that to mean...
Architecturally?
phil labonte
No, it's dangerous.
shane cashman
Wired against them.
phil labonte
No, it's dangerous to try to remove the FBI from D.C. It's also dangerous for the American people to have the FBI right across.
I mean, you've been to D.C. and you know where the FBI building is, right?
shane cashman
Yeah, I avoid it.
phil labonte
Okay, so it's right here and right across the street is the Department of Justice building.
Those things should be separated geographically.
So there's not so much collusion between the two.
tim pool
I did...
Kind of think that when Cash, or when Dan said he killed himself, it was hard for him to say.
unidentified
It seemed like it was.
shane cashman
That could be an interpretation.
unidentified
It seemed like it was, yeah, maybe because he believed that he didn't, and then what he saw made him have to, but again, you'd think that he would add more context to it than just saying, he killed himself.
shane cashman
Yeah.
unidentified
I don't know, it makes you want a cookie, though.
phil labonte
Yeah, dude.
unidentified
Suicide.
You want a cookie?
People don't.
phil labonte
If you got another chocolate chip one.
kash patel
Jeffrey Epstein.
tim pool
File Dennehy.
kash patel
Decide when you see one, and that's what that was.
unidentified
I'm good.
phil labonte
I'm good.
unidentified
He killed himself.
phil labonte
I'm good.
kash patel
Again, you want me to...
phil labonte
Thank you.
tim pool
I've seen the whole file.
phil labonte
He killed himself.
kash patel
I know it's hard work.
That was.
phil labonte
He killed himself.
Again, you want me to...
unidentified
I've seen the whole file.
phil labonte
He killed himself.
kash patel
I know it's hard work.
unidentified
So who's in charge at the New York FBI field?
I know it's hard work, man.
tim pool
I don't know.
It just kind of seems like...
shane cashman
Yeah, and all the Comey connections.
tim pool
It's hard for him to say it.
shane cashman
All the Comey connections are also weird.
tim pool
You know what I think happens?
People like Cash and Dan on the outside are like these motherfuckers.
They get in and then find out aliens are running everything.
And then the aliens are like, Welcome, Dan Mangino.
unidentified
If you tell the American people the truth, we'll kill you and your family.
tim pool
And he's like, Oh my God.
shane cashman
Yeah.
unidentified
That's it.
The deep state is actually aliens.
tim pool
Maybe, maybe.
shane cashman
I wouldn't be surprised.
tim pool
Yup.
shane cashman
I hope they release the file, though.
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