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JFK FILES RELEASED, Shocking Documents Released By Trump DROPPED w/Amber Duke | Timcast IRL
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tim pool
JFK files got released.
So we've got 80,000 pages.
They just dropped within, I think, 30 minutes.
So very little is known just yet.
But I won't bury the lead.
Many people are already saying, those with privy to access, you are going to be disappointed.
That's not to say there aren't going to be interesting things and revelations in here.
I think the general assessment is, yo, they're going to say the story is the story.
But we are getting some interesting documents about what was going on around the world, how powerful world leaders were reacting.
And there is some new information, so we can give you a little bit, as again, the story has just dropped.
Definitely we're going to dive into this and break down exactly what's going on with the release of the JFK Files.
Outside of that, ladies and gentlemen, yo...
I think it's fair to say that we are at the front door of weather underground type.
And I wonder if it's actually maybe even beyond that.
You know, with the weather underground, it was the thousands of explosions.
But they say it was mostly shock and awe.
What we're seeing now is attempts on the lives of conservatives.
We've got even more swattings.
I think we may be up to around 18 or 19 swattings.
And these are attempts to kill conservative individuals as they swat their homes.
And it's seemingly getting worse.
Elon Musk has decried the acts of terror against him and his dealerships.
This is particularly crazy.
We have two new stories in this regard.
And then, of course, one of the biggest stories of the day, Donald Trump's feud with the judge.
Who argued he had equitable power to the president to force him to return military flights to this country.
Absolutely insane.
Justice Roberts chimed in over Trump's demand that this judge be impeached.
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amber athey
Hey guys, I'm Amber Duke.
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libby emmons
Hi.
tim pool
Libby's here.
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How's it going?
libby emmons
I'm Libby.
I'm here.
I'm Libby Emmons with the Post Millennial and Humanevents.com.
Glad to be here.
Glad to be here with you, Amber.
phil labonte
Hello, everybody.
My name is Phil Labonte.
I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains.
I'm an anti-communist and counter-revolutionary.
Let's go.
tim pool
Here's the huge news from the Post Millennial.
80,000 pages of files on JFK's assassination.
Trump said those looking at the files have a lot of reading to do.
Indeed, they do.
We have a couple of these documents pulled up.
Around 80,000 pages of files having to do with the assassination of JFK have been released by the Trump administration as President Trump said he would do so on Monday.
So thank you, Mr. President.
When he announced the release on Monday, he said that those looking at the files with a lot of reading as he visited JFK Center, there were 1,123 new entries for the files of the National Archives with many entries having multiple pages.
Now, the Daily Mail has already done a quick assessment.
This is fascinating.
Some news outlets within the span of a half an hour, I'm assuming they get...
A hundred people in their newsroom and they say, you take page one, you take page two, you take page three, and they all go through it and then say, tell me what you find.
So we already have a general idea.
One, nothing incriminating.
You're not going to find any grassy knoll stuff, so the rumors say.
I mean, we're still going to wait for a deeper assessment of this.
The Daily Mail says JFK assassination files 15 huge bombshells, including secret Jackie letter and missing conspiracy footage.
Interesting.
Jackie's letters to LBJ.
You've got Miami CIA files, Cuban assassins records, New Orleans paramilitary agents.
I got one document that I think I actually still have pulled up.
And this is like, look, we went as fast as we can.
And I'm not a historian of the JFK assassination.
But this is a document pulled up from the JFK files making reference that Cuban diplomatic missions abroad started to go on high alert in fears.
Now you got to understand, Cuba, communists, Cold War.
Assassination to JFK, and there were some serious fears.
But I'm wondering if the journalists in the room, if you guys have heard anything, if your newsrooms have pulled anything.
I know there were some rumors that you were mentioning or something people might have seen.
amber athey
Yeah, nothing major yet.
We ran the files through Grok, which is the AI tool at X, and this is how it summed it up, which is that the files provide a lot more detail on Oswald's movements before the assassination attempt, particularly a trip he took to Mexico City six weeks before the assassination,
where he met with Soviet and Cuban leaders at their embassies.
But otherwise, it says no major conspiracy breakthrough.
If you're looking for that bombshell moment, you're probably not going to find it in these documents.
Austin Peterson has a tweet out looking through the files that says, Yeah,
phil labonte
I don't imagine that this is going to satisfy the people that are, you know, the second shooter people or the conspiracy people that think that it was CIA that did the assassination or whatever.
This clearly, if I understand correctly so far, obviously I haven't had time to go through it myself, but it doesn't have the things that people were hoping.
libby emmons
Well, I mean, everybody was really hoping that there would be a document and they would download the document and it would say, there were two shooters and the CIA did it.
tim pool
Or maybe we have this document right now from the archives.
Ladies and gentlemen, in one of the documents I have, there is a sentence saying that the CIA was responsible.
Now, hold on.
Hold on.
Let me read it for you.
This is document number...
1-0-4-1-0-1-7-0-1-0-1-4-5.
You can find it in the archives.
It's just...
I'm going to read it.
I don't know what it is.
Because this stuff just came out.
Memorandum.
Subject.
Ramparts.
John Garrett Underhill Jr., Samuel George Cummings, and Interarmco.
One.
Ramparts of June 1967, Volume 5, Number 12, pages 28-29, contains the following passage about subjects.
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Quote.
tim pool
The day after the assassination.
Gary Underhill left Washington in a hurry.
Late in the evening, he showed up at the home of friends in New Jersey who was very agitated.
A small clique within the CIA was responsible for the assassination he confided.
And he was afraid for his life and probably would have to leave the country.
Less than six months later, Underhill was found shot to death in his Washington apartment.
The coroner ruled it a suicide.
Jay Garrett Underhill had been an intelligence agent during World War II and was a recognized authority on limited warfare and small arms.
A researcher and writer on military affairs, he was on a first-name basis with many of the top brass in the Pentagon.
He was also on intimate terms with a number of high-ranking CIA officials.
He was one of the agency's un-people who performed special assignments.
At one time, he had been a friend of Samuel Cummings of Interarmco.
The arms broker that numbers among its customers, the CIA, and ironically, Klein's sporting goods of Chicago.
From whence the mail order Carcano allegedly was purchased by Oswald.
The friends whom Underhill visited say he was sober but badly shook.
They say he attributed the Kennedy murder to a CIA clique which was carrying on a lucrative racket in gunrunning, narcotics and other contraband, and manipulating political intrigue to serve its own ends.
Kennedy supposedly got wind that something was going on and was killed before he could blow the whistle on it.
Although the friends had always known Underhill to be perfectly rational objective, they at first didn't take his account seriously.
I think the main reason was...
Explains the husband.
That we couldn't believe the CIA could contain a corrupt element every bit as ruthless and more efficient as the mafia.
The verdict of suicide in Underhill's death is by no means convincing.
His body was found by a writing collaborator, Asher Burns, to the New Republic.
He had been shot behind the left ear, and an automatic pistol was left under his left side.
Was under his left side.
Odd, says Brines.
I'm sorry, it's Brines.
Because Underhill was right-handed.
Brines thinks the pistol was fitted with a silencer, and occupants of the apartment building could not recall hearing a shot.
Underhill obviously had been dead several days.
Gary Underhill's chilling story is hardly implausible.
As a spy apparatus, the CIA is honeycombed with self-contained clicks, operating without any real central control.
A check of agency records has yielded the following information about John Garrett Underhill.
Now, there's more.
He's a date of birth, 7 August 1915.
This is, I'm not entirely sure what this document is.
Again, this just could be someone, I don't know, pulling an excerpt from a fictional story.
Who knows?
Until we can actually break this down and figure out why this document is in the JFK files, I want to stress this.
I want you guys to, here, watch.
We'll pull it up.
Grab this.
Here's archive.gov, National Archives.
Here's the file.
I'm clicking it right now.
And this is the file in question that we just read, where they tell the story of a man who apparently, I'm assuming he's a real guy, unless the archives include a fictional tale of intrigue.
What do you guys think?
phil labonte
They put it in there just to satisfy the people that are desiring of...
This is the actual conspiracy.
That never happened.
It's just a paper they slid in there, so that way they can calm all the people that are like, there's something, there's got to be a second shooter, there's got to be something to chill those people out.
libby emmons
I just looked it up.
I mean, I have a picture of his gravestone, a picture of him as a young man, a picture of his death certificate.
Yes, all of it.
phil labonte
All of it's made up.
libby emmons
Going way back.
He was a writer and researcher in the area of military affairs.
Who is alleged to have had high-level Pentagon connections.
phil labonte
Never existed.
libby emmons
Never happened.
Yeah, there's a lot of stories about him going back for a long way.
amber athey
Sounds Clinton-esque.
libby emmons
A little bit, yeah.
A little bit.
Or that crazy case in Pennsylvania where the woman stabbed herself 23 times and it was ruled a suicide.
amber athey
That's right.
libby emmons
Yeah, that's wild.
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Well...
phil labonte
Again, this is interesting.
tim pool
Let me pull this up.
A simple Google search of the individual.
Now, I want to stress, guys, that the records just dropped, so we here haven't had a chance to go through anything.
For all I know, there's some dude out there watching being like, dude, that was a fictional story that, you know, I don't know.
I don't know why it would be in the...
But John Garrett Underhill Jr. has a Wikipedia entry, and it says he was an Army Captain General during World War II, blah, blah, blah.
He was a Harvard graduate.
He was...
A military correspondent for Life magazine helped make their foreign news department one of the most knowledgeable centers of military intelligence in the world.
So he died, John Garrett Underhill.
That's the name they said, right?
Yeah, it says he died in 1964.
So I'm not, I'm not, or this was, this is his son I'm imagining, right?
No, no, John Garrett Underhill Jr.
So it says, ramparts of June 1967.
I wonder what year they're claiming that, I don't know.
I have to look into it, obviously.
They're going to mention that Jim Garrison, district attorney for Louisiana, conducted an investigation to the assassination of Kennedy in an interview that Garrison gave to Playboy magazine.
He referred to a CIA agent with valuable information pertaining to his investigation.
The name of Gary Underhill was used interchangeably in sources with John Garrett Underhill.
A memorandum from the CIA to the Justice Department in 1967 referred to the interview and John Garrett Underhill in some detail.
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I have to look into it, obviously.
tim pool
I'm wondering, was this document previously disclosed?
Is this just relating to a guy who had claimed this earlier on?
unidentified
No idea.
phil labonte
I don't know.
libby emmons
No idea.
tim pool
I'll just tell you this.
This is in there.
libby emmons
Well, if you look at it, there's 112 pages of PDF files of like 10 PDFs per page.
So it's thousands of documents here.
And then each one, I mean, any document you open, it could be, you know, 20 pages.
Here's one that's 18 pages.
Here's one that's 16 pages, 21 pages.
So it's a lot of pages to read through.
And what's interesting to me is this is basically what everybody asked for, you know, the release of these files.
But I think that people forget that when you ask for the release of files, just total transparency, there's absolutely no context.
There's no timeline.
There's no order that you should read the files in.
Some of them are like memo cover sheets without the accompanying documentation that was referenced in the memo.
So it really takes a lot of...
You almost want to...
Print it all out and put it in a big pile and get someone to collate it in some kind of order so that you could look through it and assign context that you know about from the time period, like this happened then, this happened then.
But just in a big dump like this, this is like multiple different people's files, you know, everyone's doing different areas of research, and there was no through line.
Given we just know some facts and now there's all of this information and you don't know how to assign the information to the existing story.
That makes it a lot more difficult to understand even what you have in your hands.
amber athey
You also don't know...
If it really is all of the files, because when we got the 2017 dump, there were about 3,000 records at the time.
And then in February, just a month ago, they found an additional 2,400 that had been basically misclassified, and they were unrecognized as pertaining to the JFK assassination.
So I don't think it's unreasonable to think.
That there could be other files floating around that are classified the wrong way and therefore not contained in this massive dump.
libby emmons
Well, that's like with the Epstein files, right?
Exactly.
They thought they had a whole bunch of files and then it turns out that there's boxes, more files that are unmarked, unclassified.
I mean, for whatever reason, Tim.
tim pool
I'm just saying, like, you know, are we going to get any of that?
libby emmons
I don't think we're ever going to get the Epstein stuff.
tim pool
I don't think it exists.
libby emmons
Yeah, I think that it's too analog, too old, too destroyed.
phil labonte
Epstein stuff?
tim pool
No, I think the Epstein stuff is likely a powerful, wealthy guy said, for the love of all that is holy, I will pay you any amount of money to destroy that so I don't go to prison.
libby emmons
Well, we already learned that government agencies destroy documents all the time on purpose.
tim pool
Indeed.
libby emmons
Yeah, like with knowledge.
It's document-destroying day, everyone.
Get the burn bags.
phil labonte
Right.
libby emmons
Yeah.
phil labonte
Well, yeah, they were talking about burn bags just the other day.
libby emmons
Yeah.
phil labonte
I mean, I assume that...
The references to the burn bags the other day have nothing to do with either Epstein or with...
libby emmons
No, I think it's just standard procedure.
phil labonte
Yeah, I think that the government likes to have as little accountability as possible.
I think that people can pish-posh that or whatever, but it's clear the government likes to classify things to avoid accountability.
They overclassify things.
This is something you hear over and over when it comes to people that either were in Congress or people that were in the bureaucracy.
It's normal for the government to overclassify things because that prevents them from being on the hook for having to answer things.
Classified or whether they're burning them to destroy things or whatever, the less accountability the government has, the better they like it.
libby emmons
Yeah, plus, I mean, you don't want to end up on an edition of hoarders, you know, government hoarders.
You ever see hoarders?
phil labonte
Yes, but I mean...
libby emmons
I'm just making a joke.
phil labonte
Nowadays, there's not really the possibility of that anymore because it's all digital now.
libby emmons
Well, you can still be a digital hoarder.
Do you remember this conversation about climate change?
There was a conversation a couple years ago.
It was like, to prevent climate change, clear your digital files.
You're not entitled to that much hard drive space, that much cloud space.
You have to clear your files for climate change.
phil labonte
For climate change.
No, I was unaware of that.
libby emmons
your Dropbox account, you know, or whatever it is.
phil labonte
Yeah, I...
I've never heard of digital hoarding.
I know dudes that are in the music industry that have the hard drives of everything that they've ever produced or everything they've ever worked on.
They don't ever get rid of things and stuff.
But I think that when it comes to the federal government, it's...
It should be normal for them to keep documents, and they should be accessible with a FOIA request or whatever, because the federal government should be, and I understand that this is a little pie in the sky probably, but they should be accountable to the American people,
And if there's a FOIA request and the American people want to see information, they should have access to it.
They're spending our money.
They're supposed to be serving us.
The things that they do are supposed to be in service for the American people and to better our position globally.
And so unless it's something that is actually classified for good reason, then it should be something that the American people can see.
libby emmons
There's a lot of Cuba stuff in here.
amber athey
Yeah, a lot of Cuba stuff, a lot of Soviet Union stuff.
And the last time I was here, we were talking about the Epstein files.
It was the day that the influencers got the infamous binders.
And then they had that 8 a.m.
deadline the next morning where Pam Bonney was demanding the documents from the FBI field office in New York and the Southern District of New York.
Now she claims she has a quote unquote truckload of documents.
But it's been two weeks since that deadline passed and we haven't heard any update about when they're actually supposed to be released, if at all.
phil labonte
I think that the...
The desire for this administration to provide an answer to the people that voted hoping for information about these things, I think that their being in a hurry to answer them and have something for them has put them in bad positions because maybe the information that people are expecting doesn't actually exist.
Maybe the government isn't going to be able to produce it for them.
So they're...
They've been out over their sleeves multiple times about this.
amber athey
You never want to over-promise and under-deliver.
phil labonte
Yeah, and that's something that has happened multiple times, and now there's a lot of people that are going like, oh, Trump tricked you again, Trump tricked you again, and it's like, maybe the stuff wasn't, maybe he shouldn't have said what he said, and maybe the information just isn't there.
Like, we were talking about the Epstein stuff.
I think that it's likely gone.
It probably was gone a long time ago.
tim pool
People are saying sham Bondi and scam Bondi.
phil labonte
Yeah, you know.
And I mean, look, they probably have a point.
They shouldn't have made, like you said, they should not have made promises that they couldn't deliver.
amber athey
And she shouldn't have marched into that room with the influencers and dropped off the binder without consulting with the rest of the administration.
I mean, there were a lot of reports, and I don't usually put much stock into mainstream media reports about palace intrigue-type stories, but this is consistent with what I've heard, which is that...
People were not happy within the administration about how the attorney general handled that situation, and they felt like it made them look like idiots.
libby emmons
Well, in both of these cases, what should have happened is there should have been a release of the files concurrent with a press conference where the administration detailed what they discovered in the files.
So, for example, with the JFK thing, Pam Bondi should have had a press conference.
Anna Paulina Luna should have been there.
She's been all over this, and they should have said, In our looking through these files, these are a few things that we found that people might think is interesting.
We did not find any backup for these conspiracy theories or whatever else, but they should have taken the time to go through them themselves.
And the same thing should have happened with the Epstein files.
Instead of giving the folders to a bunch of people who...
I don't know if you saw, Mike Cernovich did a whole video on it that I watched because I was like, what did happen?
And instead of just giving binders to people who didn't have their phones and weren't about to go on air and discuss it...
Should have been a press conference.
Like, this is what we have.
This is what's going on.
Instead, with the Epstein stuff, they increased the mystery and increased the level of distrust.
And there was absolutely no reason to do that.
And they threw those influencers and journalists and stuff, they just threw them under the bus.
They all ended up taking the heat for something that was not their fault at all.
And there was nothing in the binders for them to really discuss once they even got on air.
phil labonte
The idea of a press conference probably is actually a good idea.
If they had someone go out and say, look, there is a bullet point that people are going to be interested in, it's not hard to figure out the questions that are going to be asked, but they should have been able to answer questions and talk about it, and it probably would have diffused a lot of the criticism that they've taken so far.
tim pool
Let's jump to this next story.
Ladies and gentlemen, it's getting hot out there.
And with the latest string of terror attacks at various Tesla dealerships, I gotta say, it's feeling like we're entering weather underground levels of terror.
I wasn't alive, of course, so there's no way for me to remember that, but I can only read about it.
But the videos that are coming out from these attacks, they're nuts.
We'll play one of the videos for you in a second, but take a look at this from The Guardian.
FBI investigates blazes at Las Vegas Tesla showroom as potential terrorism.
We have this story from The Verge.
Multiple Tesla vehicles were set on fire in Las Vegas and Kansas City.
Again, we have videos of both of these incidents.
I want you to take a look at this.
Several vehicles set on fire at Tesla in Las Vegas, police say.
This video is absolutely insane.
Crazy.
For those that are just listening, there's no sound.
But the vehicles are exploding.
These are massive electric batteries.
And this is, Elon Musk tweets, 100% violent terrorism.
phil labonte
It is.
And I mean, this is the behavior of the left.
They've been allowed to do this for the past, you know, longer than the past five years.
Because it really did work up to the summer of love that we had, right?
So there was Ferguson in what, 2013, I think is when the...
libby emmons
Something like that.
phil labonte
I think it was like 2013.
And then...
There were all the riots at schools when they were trying to shut down speakers and all the violence that was going on there.
And then it kind of came to a crescendo in 2020.
But the left has been violent and destroying property and firebombing things.
For the better part of the past 10 years?
libby emmons
Well, I mean, go back to the 60s.
tim pool
Well, sure, sure.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, if you go back to the 80s and there was a bombing in Congress.
libby emmons
Weather Underground was like 60s, 70s.
phil labonte
Weather Underground was in the 70s.
Between 71 and 72, they set off 2,500 bombs in the United States.
And they killed somebody.
They did a bunch of bombs throughout the rest of the 70s.
libby emmons
And didn't they blow up a brownstone in Greenwich Village?
phil labonte
They did kill someone.
So, I mean, this is not...
The idea that the left is passive or whatever is ridiculous.
And it's something that the FBI, they should do everything they can to round these people up and put them in jail forever or for as long as possible.
tim pool
Here's the video out of Kansas.
And again, I guess there's no audio on this or is that us?
Okay, so I guess these videos don't have any sound.
This is a guy who tweeted just drove by local Kansas City Tesla dealership barely caught footage of a girl in a black dress.
Yo, this is getting scary.
The Daily Beast, Elon Musk cries terrorism.
After Las Vegas Tesla car fires.
libby emmons
That is terrorism.
tim pool
It is.
libby emmons
Pulling up car dealerships is a terrorist act.
amber athey
And the White House said in a press briefing, I believe it was last week or the week prior, last week, like March 12th or something, that they were going to be investigating these as domestic terror incidents.
And just like that article, the media started making fun of them and basically telling them not to believe their lying eyes.
They pulled a fiery but mostly peaceful moment.
We did a roundup of this at the Daily Caller.
Vox characterized it as, quote, Very spirited, peaceful demonstrations.
And an MSNBC anchor said, just to be clear, you protest a private company.
You are labeled by this administration a domestic terrorist.
These aren't protests.
These are acts of violence.
I mean, it should be obvious, but these people are obsessed with running cover for the worst of society, whether it's Trendy Aragua people being deported or people firebombing Tesla dealerships.
tim pool
Let me play this clip.
This is Charlie Kirk.
maxine waters
What does Trump expect?
Oh, I believe he expects violence.
I believe he expects confrontation.
I believe he's working toward a civil war.
tim pool
That's Maxine Waters.
Then we have this.
This is data analyst Barbara Walter, hired by the CIA to predict the likelihood of civil wars developing in foreign countries.
She believes the United States is potentially years away from another civil war.
These are people on the left.
So what I love about this is...
They're going to lie to you.
And what you need to understand, we here at SimCast have been bringing up the possibility of civil war for some time.
Many of you may not know that.
And the response from liberals has always been to take clips and insult me and the show and say, either we are trying to make it happen or we are crazy people for suggesting it could.
At the same time, while they're putting out that outward propaganda to say, ha ha, look how stupid these people are.
Their experts and politicians behind the scenes have been warning them it is coming for some time.
So, I think the difficult question, or I should say the difficult scenario, the better way to put it, as we watch them engage in overt acts of terror against Elon Musk, and it is terror.
They are attacking Tesla dealerships, not because they don't like his cars, not because he mistreats employees or any other accusation they may have come up with, but literally.
Because he's working with the current administration.
That is purely political.
And while we are watching it happen with our own eyes, the media is coming out and saying, it's a protest, it's a protest, it's a protest.
They did this in 2020.
Peaceful protest, mostly peaceful protests.
They're not going to stop lying.
And so you need to understand something.
The people who write those articles and go on the MSNBC shows, do you believe these people genuinely don't understand what they're doing?
I do not believe for two seconds that you can watch a bunch of black-clad individuals firebomb buildings and then call that a peaceful protest knowingly.
No one is that stupid.
They're obfuscating and covering up for their revolutionaries, or whatever you want to call them, for their terrorists.
And they want to keep as many people in the dark as possible for as long as possible and shift the blame to those that are being attacked.
libby emmons
Well, yeah, and they don't want you to, like you were saying, they don't want you to think that it's terrorism.
They go out of their way to make sure to use softer language.
It's like the fiery but mostly peaceful protests that we saw in August 2020 in Kenosha, Wisconsin, which was absolutely insane.
And you actually had the Trump rapid response Twitter account put out a tweet, just like a video from MSNBC.
I think, I want to say it was Abby Phillip.
Is she CNN?
Whatever.
Anyway, I want to say it was Abby Phillip talking about how these were not terrorist attacks.
They're, you know, just a protest.
And then they put the clip of Fiery But Mostly Peaceful from that summer in 2020 on the end of it just to make the point.
And that is the point.
That is what these...
That is what these pundits are doing.
They're very clear that they want this to be called a protest.
And I don't know how you guys deal with it at Daily Caller, but I think a lot of times when we're running stories about protests or whatever, we're careful if you're occupying a building and beating up janitors at Columbia University.
We're not calling you protesters.
amber athey
No.
I mean, no, we don't sanitize our language.
We call things what they are.
Which is the role of alternative and conservative media because it should be, but it's not.
So you have to have the alternative to present people with...
Factual information.
And one of the other things that I've been sort of tracking in relation to these Tesla attacks is when you have like one or two, you think, okay, is this just a handful of crazy people who really hate Elon Musk?
But it's becoming clear that this is organized.
They have a hashtag for it.
There's actually a website, which I won't name because I don't want people to go to it, where they're not only listing addresses of Tesla dealerships and Doge employees, but now they're even including Private Tesla owners.
So just random Americans who own a Tesla.
And if you drive around the D.C. area, you will see people.
They've started putting bumper stickers on the back of their Tesla that say, I bought this before I knew Elon Musk is crazy.
And that's a signal to their buddies.
Hey, don't torch my car.
tim pool
You know, I think it was before the show we were mentioning that Rudyard Lynch was wrong.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
He told us he came on the show.
What was it?
November or something?
phil labonte
I want to say November, yeah.
tim pool
November.
And he said that he has a standing bet.
With somebody, $1,000, that by April, 1,000 people will be dead, for political reasons.
So far, I think the number may be in 20s or so, political deaths in the past four months.
So we say he's wrong.
He's completely wrong.
Now, the terrifying thing is, with only about, what are we looking at, 13 days until April, when he made his prediction, we are looking at extreme acts of terror at Tesla dealerships.
And then I think about what Eric Prince told me.
When I asked him if he thought, based on all the things that he had seen, you know, this is the guy who's, he's the private military contractor guy, right?
phil labonte
Yes.
tim pool
I said, after all the things he's seen, does he think the U.S. could go into one of these collapses, civil wars or otherwise?
And he said the one thing that everybody in the business will tell you is that it happens overnight.
One day everything's normal, the next day there's no internet, there's no electricity, there's no garbage service, the water's not running.
Most people think there's going to be a slow buildup.
But I'll add on top of that, you know, with all due respect to Mary Morgan, we're big fans, but she is young.
She's 24. She's 24, right?
Anyways, host of Pop Culture Crisis, shout out.
And she said she's in the nothing ever happens camp.
And I was just like, you know, I thought about that.
When Donald Trump descended from that escalator, something happened.
And for most of us, we're all older.
You guys are older than me.
It was like, holy crap, what?
Like, nothing happening is politician in suit argues with politician in suit.
The joke that Futurama made was...
What Jim Johnson and John Jimson or whatever, clones of each other, were debating, but they agreed on everything.
That's how people in the 2000s viewed politics.
Nothing ever happened.
Then Trump stepped up.
Something happened.
Trump was accused of being a Russian spy.
Trump was impeached twice.
There was scandal after scandal after scandal.
The media wouldn't shut up.
And Mary says nothing ever happens.
I'm like, that's because Mary was 14 when Trump descended that escalator.
For her entire adult life.
She has been living in the heat, in the fray of this political, of stuff happening.
libby emmons
So much stuff.
tim pool
It's relative.
So what we're looking at now, it is remarkable to me when I talk to someone and say, you really don't think a civil war is possible?
No, it's not possible.
And I'm like...
After everything that's happened, it's like I'm still talking to people.
It's like, did you see the bullet graze the head of the president?
And they're like, I don't know.
People live in the moment.
And what happens is if things get too hot too quick, people freak out.
But if things are just getting hotter very slowly, people adapt.
It's boiling frogs, right?
libby emmons
Well, the thing, too, I've been thinking about as we have the release of the JFK files, and Trump has also promised Martin Luther King Jr. files, Bobby Kennedy assassination files, and I was thinking about how that was...
An assassination era.
I was thinking about my mom.
My parents lived through this period of time when the president got assassinated.
One of the nation's top civic leaders got assassinated.
The brother of the president got assassinated.
Yeah, it was MLK, RFK, and JFK.
And they just all got assassinated.
I mean, living through that time.
Yeah, Malcolm X got assassinated.
unidentified
Yeah.
libby emmons
Yeah.
How do I forget about Malcolm X?
I just remember the zoot suits from that Malcolm X movie.
But yeah, I mean, this was a lot of assassinations.
A lot of that, you know, a lot of assassinations.
And there was no, you could say there was no civil war.
But there was certainly a massive uprising.
There was massive social unrest, civil strife, for sure.
I mean, you had people got shot at universities, shot to death at Kent State.
You had, yeah, you had civil rights activists getting murdered all through the South, white civil rights activists, black civil rights activists.
You had lynchings.
You had Emmett Till, which is a crazy...
phil labonte
Was that in the 60s?
libby emmons
It was like all around that period.
Was that before?
Was that the 50s or was that the 60s?
Emmett Till was 55. 55. So yeah, that was early.
But during that period of time, you had lynching, certainly.
It was crazy.
You had KKK burning crosses.
tim pool
I don't know where this all goes.
I'm just saying that it is worse now than it was last year.
It's worse now than it was.
libby emmons
Is it worse now than it was in 2020?
phil labonte
Yes.
tim pool
Why?
libby emmons
Because that was contained?
tim pool
Well, I would say it depends on how you frame things.
The thing about 2020 is you have this quote-unquote pandemic.
I'm sorry, let me rephrase that.
What I mean to say is quote-unquote pandemic lockdown.
The systems of governance where they said we're going to mandate all these different policies.
I believe there was a pandemic.
I'm arguing from the government side.
That led to people protesting en masse across the country and some of the worst riots we've seen in a long time.
The reason why I say it's worse now is that riots are riots, and you lock people in their homes for several months, and their brains are going to boil.
And you're going to get riots.
And riots sometimes happen.
And those riots were bad.
What we're looking at is two assassination attempts on the frontrunner for the presidency who eventually won, a bullet that grazed his head, and now terroristic targeting of not just Tesla dealerships, but I think we're looking at almost 20. Oh,
libby emmons
you also had the assassination of a healthcare executive.
tim pool
That's right.
Two of them, right?
Two of them?
amber athey
There was a lower level one.
Oh, attempted.
Like two weeks ago.
libby emmons
Oregon?
tim pool
So in 2020, you had riots.
And they were really bad.
And then in Seattle and stuff, you got the autonomous zones.
Really crazy.
Today...
You are getting leftists directly targeting perceived political opponents.
So riots in general are people running around screaming, smashing things.
That's their own cities.
I was talking to somebody and I was debating civil war with them.
And it was on the show.
I can't remember what show it was.
It was probably last year.
And they said, that's insane.
I go outside.
Nobody's talking about civil war.
Right?
Who do you think is going to fight a civil war?
If I go outside, nobody cares.
And I said, do you think people in 1862 in Atlanta walked out of their houses, looked at their neighbor and said, are you a Yank?
I'll fight you.
No, they were all Southerners.
They walked outside and said, who's talking about civil war?
The fight was on the front lines in Pennsylvania or in Maryland, in West Virginia.
It wasn't next door.
People don't understand that When we are talking about escalation of civil war, whether it could happen, I don't know.
I'm not saying it will.
The difference between five years ago and today is the direct targeting of political opponents with extreme violence and attempted murder.
libby emmons
Well, and you also have for decades, well, maybe not decades, but you certainly have for years the Democrat politicians calling for this very thing.
You had Maxine Waters during the first Trump administration saying, call out Trump officials where you see them.
Sarah Sanders was forced out of a Waffle House at one point.
You had, what was it, Hakeem Jeffries was recently talking about, we're going to take this fight to the streets.
That's a standard rhetorical practice of Democrats, is that we're going to have...
Street violence.
amber athey
Also, everyone forgets about the attempted assassination of multiple Republican members of Congress with the Alexandria baseball shooting.
Yeah, in the Supreme Court.
There was a guy who went to kill Brett Kavanaugh.
tim pool
Let me pull up this story.
This is from the San Francisco Chronicle.
Police arrest person in Bay Area.
Viral video suspected of Keane Tesla in Costco parking lot.
I love how they say suspected, and here's a picture of him doing it.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
You know what's fascinating to me is that Tesla vehicles have, do I have another one of these?
Yeah, so we have this terror suspect was filmed, engaged in an anti-Tesla attack in Dallas-Fort Worth.
The FBI is looking for any information to bring him to justice.
They're saying to call the FBI field office.
Do these people not know that Tesla vehicles are covered in cameras?
So, what we're seeing, which I think is terrifying, I don't really care if someone gets their car keyed.
You know, nobody gets hurt.
It's damaged.
You go to jail for it.
I think...
Isn't this guy being charged with a felony?
He's being charged with felony destruction or something like that?
libby emmons
Felony vandalism?
Something like that?
tim pool
That is what it is.
Arrested person.
King was probably in response to the city's mayor.
A video apparently recorded by the Tesla itself because they have cameras all over the place.
Let's see.
Gee, Paul.
I thought it was a...
I don't know if it's in here as a felony.
libby emmons
We have this story.
I can find it.
tim pool
Yeah, see if you can find it.
I thought it was felony destruction of property or something.
The crazy thing about all of these attacks, be it the R set of the Tesla dealerships, is what foments these things.
Earlier you were mentioning that it's organized, Amber.
It kind of is and kind of isn't.
I would refer to this as the ice bucket challenge of terrorism.
amber athey
Yeah, I think that's fair.
They're not like meeting in a central location and sending out.
Terrorists.
tim pool
They're going on TikTok, seeing the video, and then running out to join in the trend.
libby emmons
Felony vandalism.
tim pool
Felony vandalism.
unidentified
Good.
tim pool
Lock them up.
phil labonte
Yeah.
I think the more people that actually see serious repercussions from this, the better.
Because there's nothing that's going to...
You know, going to disincentivize people from this unless there's a government doing something.
libby emmons
I don't think they're going to care either because they want to get arrested.
Look at Congress every time there's a stand-up.
phil labonte
They want to get arrested for the attention, but they don't want to go to jail for a long time.
tim pool
Yeah, but once again, that's why it's the ice bucket challenge of terror.
When they perp walk...
It's a celebration for them.
amber athey
That's a martyr.
I mean, plus, what about this administration would make you think that they're not going to take this seriously?
I mean, they literally just deported a professor who attended a funeral of a top Hezbollah official.
Like, they're not playing around.
tim pool
Remember that guy whose name we forgot lit himself on fire?
libby emmons
Yeah.
amber athey
Oh, yeah.
I remember his name.
phil labonte
I remember his name, but I'm not going to say it.
amber athey
Same.
tim pool
I don't remember.
I recommend people not immolate themselves like this.
Why would someone do that?
libby emmons
The guy who did it outside the Trump trial?
amber athey
There's been like seven of them, by the way, in the past year and a half.
tim pool
It was over Israel, right?
Was it over Israel?
libby emmons
It was an Israel guy, yeah.
tim pool
I think we pulled this up yesterday and we talked about it.
There was a guy who vandalized a bunch of Tesla chargers and set fires and then spray painted Long Live Ukraine.
And I'm like, this guy doesn't know where Ukraine is on a map.
Three years ago, he didn't know Ukraine existed.
What drove him so insane?
And that's the point.
With the stuff that we're seeing, if you say, we're going to arrest them and Trump's going to come in, they will cheer for this.
We're talking about people who have nothing in their lives.
They have no faith.
They have no purpose.
They have no moral structure.
They want only to appear in the videos displayed in front of other people.
Here's an example.
You guys ever see any of the thousands of videos where a guy will take two milk jugs in a Walmart, dump them all over himself, slam them on the ground, and then scream?
I'm a big, beautiful baby or something.
Something like this.
phil labonte
It doesn't really matter what they scream.
tim pool
These people are so desperate for attention of any kind.
These are the kind of things they're willing to do.
So if Trump comes in and arrests them, they're going to be crossing their fingers.
Please, Pert Malky, please, please, please.
And all the leftists will film them and cheer for them and encourage more.
libby emmons
Like Luigi Mangione.
tim pool
Yep.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, so then...
Do you have an opinion as to what should be done?
tim pool
I've been saying this.
Phil, you've been saying this.
There's no off-ramp.
To quote the great Philibonte, you said this two years ago last year, there's no off-ramp.
And that's kind of the point I'm making.
The action you take to stop the violence will be used as a weapon because it makes them feel good.
libby emmons
It makes them feel like they're over the target.
tim pool
Right, and you can't do nothing because they're the instigators.
phil labonte
Well, putting them in jail forever makes me feel good.
tim pool
Agreed.
So I'm not saying don't lock them up.
I am saying...
amber athey
Guantanamo Bay!
phil labonte
Yeah, Gitmo, man.
tim pool
Why not?
phil labonte
I love the idea.
tim pool
We're talking about people who are committing acts of terrorism.
amber athey
Fine.
Go with other terrorists.
phil labonte
Waterboarding back, man.
libby emmons
Let me tell you.
amber athey
Where's Dick Cheney when you need him?
phil labonte
I know, right?
amber athey
Why did we drive him out of the party again?
tim pool
We were talking about religion the other day and moral philosophies with Eliezer.
That was really fascinating.
And you know, this morning, I decided to do an assessment on the whole Sam Cedar video with Eliezer and how Sam had a decade to Google search utilitarianism and didn't do it, which kind of blew my mind.
Because I debated him like seven years ago, and he said, I don't know what that is.
And I'm like, okay.
libby emmons
And he never figured it out?
tim pool
Never looked it up.
So anyway, I digress.
In this conversation, we were talking about the requirement of moral tradition and moral foundations for a nation.
And I got to thinking...
About this balance between your principles and war.
We were discussing things like war between good and evil.
And you know what I just said?
I thought to myself, I don't care anymore.
Look, you're not going to win a debate with a man who's intent on breaking into your home to murder and rape you.
Like, a guy kicks your door and screaming, you're evil and you're a demon and I've come for you.
You can't be like, well, have a seat, sir.
Let's debate this.
I have rights.
libby emmons
You can't do much with a guy like that.
tim pool
But we're dealing with a left that is burning down Tesla facilities, shooting guns into Tesla vehicles.
These are people who have previously taken over parts of cities.
What debate do we think we're going to win with these people?
amber athey
And it's incredibly ironic, by the way, because that same group of people does subscribe, at least vocally, to the theory that you can talk people down from committing acts of violence, because this is the group of people that wants to send social workers along with police officers.
I'm not sure if they even believe that it actually is going to work.
phil labonte
I think that they just don't want to see police doing things.
They don't want to tell people no.
They don't want to have the police...
amber athey
I've sat on a show with some people who are actually dumb enough to think that that's real.
libby emmons
They do want police, though.
When something happens to them, they want police.
tim pool
A viral video from, I think, 2018 was the Seattle cops arrested.
Antifa attacked a guy.
He was backing away from them.
He didn't fight them, and the cops grabbed him and arrested him and apologized to Antifa.
And I kept telling these conservatives, like, why are you back in the blue?
Like, in where you live, maybe, but not in Seattle.
These are all Democrat-appointed guys.
And then it wasn't until COVID lockdowns that people on the right started stepping on the thin blue line flag and saying, screw this.
amber athey
Well, there was this crazy story we covered at the Daily Caller of this FBI agent, I believe he was.
I'd have to double-check my work on that.
But he was fired under the Biden administration because he refused to execute a search warrant against Patriot Front because they were trying to basically up their stats on hate crimes.
And Patriot Front went to this protest of like drag queen story hour or something and didn't engage in any acts of violence.
We're totally peaceful.
But the Biden administration nonetheless...
They fabricated the details in the search warrant.
The search warrant itself actually just got released today through a court order because this guy sued.
And they just made things up and gave it to the FBI agents and said, you need to go execute this and arrest these members of Patriot Front.
And the guy said, no, this is bogus.
And they canned him.
phil labonte
Yeah, I feel like I've heard that story.
But I mean, look.
I have very little problem with rounding these people up and throwing them in jail.
And I don't, whether or not there is going to be a positive result for the nation by doing that, I'm less concerned.
I just want to see these people punished for being the garbage that they are.
libby emmons
I would say that I would feel sort of differently about the whole thing if you didn't have leftist.
Pundits, commentators, and politicians backing the arsonists, agitators.
phil labonte
I want to put them in jail too.
libby emmons
Yeah, but that's the thing that I find really troubling.
It's not just that there's this undercurrent of violence.
It's that it's being actually boosted and encouraged by the leaders on that side.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, it's just because...
So there's an argument that...
tim pool
The leader of the Democrat Party, Bill Burr.
phil labonte
There's an argument that the left doesn't believe in anything except for power.
And that kind of...
That's really demonstrated by things like the left making all kinds of excuses, leftist judges saying, oh, we're not going to punish this person, or time served for people on the left,
and extremely strict sentences for people on the right.
tim pool
So I have a question for you guys.
Let's say that they capture somebody who is just about to light a Molotov.
Outside a Tesla dealership.
What do you do with a person like that?
Prison?
libby emmons
Well, you read them their Miranda rights and you charge them with attempted...
tim pool
You don't read them their Miranda rights.
libby emmons
Of course you do.
tim pool
There's no investigation happening.
libby emmons
You arrest them.
tim pool
Nope.
Only if there's an investigation happening and you need to question them.
libby emmons
If you arrest someone, they get Miranda-ized.
tim pool
That is not correct.
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
Nope.
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
That is not correct.
libby emmons
I'm pretty sure.
tim pool
Miranda rights are only if the police are investigating something and they're required to ask you questions.
If the cop witnesses you engage in the action...
libby emmons
Well, sure, if they do that, yeah.
But if they drag you in, they have to tell you that you have the right to remain silent and have an attorney.
tim pool
If you are being questioned.
libby emmons
Sure.
tim pool
So 99% of crimes where the cops arrest you as you're engaging, like you get to a bar fight, you're not getting Miranda-ized.
If you're at a right, you're not getting Miranda-ized.
But outside of that...
It's funny because I really want to bring that up because liberals always, when they're getting arrested, yell, I have not been read my rights, which means literally nothing.
But what I'm thinking of is, in the event we capture these people who have committed domestic terror, in all seriousness, we can say, lock them up, Guantanamo, whatever you want to say.
But what do you actually do with these people?
Can they be reformed?
Can they be rehabilitated?
Is there a certain amount of time where they will see the error of their ways?
phil labonte
I don't know if they will see the error of their ways.
tim pool
Can you re-educate them?
phil labonte
I don't know that re-education works.
I don't think it does.
libby emmons
I mean, I don't want to get sent to a re-education camp if suddenly it's the other side in charge.
phil labonte
I don't think the re-education works.
tim pool
But that's the issue.
That's the question of war.
Hassan wants you in a re-education camp.
libby emmons
Oh, for sure.
maxine waters
Right.
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
And how...
Now, the funny thing is, there's nothing they can educate you on because they have no...
Coherent understanding of the world.
I mean, for the love of all that is holy, Sam Seder had seven years to Google one word, and he didn't do it.
And he got humiliated by Eleazar in this video.
It was so bad, he's getting interviewed by the Cobra Press asking him why it went so poorly.
And his response was, I wanted him to hang himself.
I wanted him to just talk so he could expose himself, and it's like, my dude.
He asked you...
And he didn't know.
So these people can't re-educate you if they don't even know what these basic words mean.
But, that being said, I think we could properly re-educate these people.
I am not saying we should, because I don't know that they can be rehabilitated.
I'm saying some people lack the cognitive ability to understand the information you present them.
amber athey
They don't re-educate, they demoralize.
tim pool
Yeah.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
But so, in all seriousness, we arrest them?
We put them in prison for long periods of time, and then what?
History tells us that people of deviant or amoral persuasions do not rehabilitate.
You put them in prison, they don't change.
libby emmons
Well, because they don't want to give up their belief system.
That's their belief system.
tim pool
And their belief system is literally just a chaotic, destructive force.
libby emmons
Yes.
tim pool
So then the question is, prison for life for terrorists?
amber athey
Well, you should bring back three strikes laws for sure.
libby emmons
Well, we did have Prison for Life for the terrorists of the 9-11, right?
They're still at Guantanamo Bay, and they haven't been prosecuted because their attorneys successfully claimed that their rights were violated.
So they haven't been prosecuted, and they were almost set free and returned to, you know, whatever hellhole they came from.
But the Biden administration, under pressure, put a stop to it.
tim pool
I was thinking about the gulags.
And how communists like to say maybe after breaking rocks for a few years, you might come to change your mind.
And the communist strategy is not to actually re-educate as if you're lacking information.
It's to torture to the point where you beg them, I will do anything you say.
Please, please make it stop.
This is what communists have historically done.
phil labonte
And when it comes to the gulags and stuff, there were always like 10-year sentences of hard labor.
Other people in the gulag with you is who kept you in line because there were so many people in the gulag.
They didn't have enough guards to actually keep people in.
So it was always based on random punishments and so they would keep each other in line and stuff.
And I don't see that that's a solution here in the US.
I think that...
I mean, I think that we should just toss him in jail and throw away the key because you can't.
tim pool
That's not permanent.
I mean, we're talking about Bill Burr.
phil labonte
We're always going to have leftists.
tim pool
My point is, Bill Burr, we are not talking about 10,000 people across the country.
We are talking about potentially 10 million.
We are talking about when you see the arson against all of these Tesla dealerships, which again, I think it's like, what, 16 or some odd attacks.
There's no organized body instructing them to go do it.
It is the ice bucket challenge.
They are going on TikTok, they are seeing people say do it, and they're going and doing it.
libby emmons
Well, I think the only thing that you can do is charge people with crimes if they've committed crimes, put them through the legal system.
Put them through the proper, you know, the appropriate punishment.
And you can't lock people up because they disagree with you.
If you are a crazy leftist and you're not committing violence, then that's your right to be a crazy leftist and not commit violence.
tim pool
Let's jump to the story from the Post Millennial.
Doxing website featuring Molotov cocktail cursor exposes personal info of Tesla owners.
In addition to listing alleged Tesla owner data...
The site reportedly maps out Tesla dealership locations and approximates the positions of the company's supercharger locations.
I don't want to potentially reveal any information about the name of that site, but if you guys are familiar with what's going on with this, if you want to explain it without...
libby emmons
Yeah, we didn't link to the site in the story.
tim pool
Is it named, though?
libby emmons
I don't think so, but I didn't review it.
This was actually just published by Tommy Stevenson.
tim pool
Yeah, do you want to give us the breakdown, Amber?
amber athey
Well, the website as the story says that you just read has the Private addresses of Tesla owners, Tesla dealerships, also includes the addresses of members of Elon Musk's Doge team.
And when you go through and click on these things, it has like a little icon on a map to show you where you are in relation to individuals that you can go attack.
So, I mean, it's doxing on a wide scale.
That's the gist of it.
phil labonte
The unique thing or the new development thing of this is the fact that they're doxing private citizens, people that just own Teslas.
I don't know how much information is actually on the website about private individuals and stuff, but that is a different...
tim pool
The website has become so popular that their servers are down.
amber athey
They want to bankrupt Elon Musk, and they do that by discouraging anyone from buying a Tesla.
phil labonte
Well, not only that, but obviously they want to discourage people from buying a Tesla, but if they actually do start attacking people that own Teslas, that is a new...
A new step.
It's an escalation in this.
And, you know, I don't want to see that, but you'll see people, you know, start to fight back with that kind of thing.
libby emmons
There was a, yeah, I mean, we saw Tesla owners.
Being interviewed on the news with their identities shielded and covered, saying that they're keeping their Teslas in their garage and they don't want to drive it.
But once you spend, I mean, for most people, once you spend that much on a car, like, that's your car.
tim pool
So I have the website pulled up.
I'm not going to show it.
But it shows private cars.
libby emmons
That's so crazy.
tim pool
It shows Tesla dealerships, charging stations, and private individuals' vehicles.
libby emmons
There was a guy who tried to blow up Tesla charging stations in South Carolina the other day with Molotov cocktails.
He accidentally set himself on fire.
amber athey
Shame.
libby emmons
I know, really.
amber athey
Bummer.
tim pool
Well, I mean, seriously, guys, don't play with fire.
You learn that when you're a little kid.
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
I mean, don't commit terrorism?
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Wow, this is crazy.
Although, it's hard to actually point on it.
unidentified
Whoa!
libby emmons
What, can you find stuff?
tim pool
I ain't gonna pull it up, but yes, I can.
I found a private woman's car in Virginia.
libby emmons
That's not right.
You should leave people alone.
tim pool
Their home address.
libby emmons
How did people get all this stuff?
tim pool
I have no idea.
Someone hacked something?
This is crazy, because this is right by us.
amber athey
Look up the car title somehow, and then link it to the address?
Yeah.
phil labonte
A lot of times, if I understand...
amber athey
It probably wouldn't be that hard.
tim pool
E-mails, phone numbers?
libby emmons
It's probably public information, right?
amber athey
Yeah, this is crazy.
The Daily Caller got doxed by Antifa back in...
Oh, that's right.
I want to say 2018 or 2019.
It was the first time I worked there.
And they had our addresses, phone numbers, our parents' addresses and phone numbers.
Like, every address that we had ever lived at all on this website and were, like, promising to come kill us all.
I was like, alright, come.
See what happens.
But no, you don't want people to come.
And you don't want people to go to your parents' house.
libby emmons
Definitely not your parents' house.
phil labonte
I don't want my mom to have to go with that.
tim pool
I'm wondering how they got this information, to be honest.
Because it's all over the country.
Again, for those that are just listening, I have the map pulled up.
I'm looking at it.
I can click on people's names, but I'm not going to give out the information as to what the website is or how people find this because this is nuts.
amber athey
You can search and view license plates on the Virginia Department of Motor Vehicles website.
tim pool
But you have to type in the license plate number, don't you?
amber athey
Yeah, but they probably just have people reporting license plates on the back of Teslas, and then they can match the license plate number to the name, and then you can easily look up someone's address if they own a property through...
Home records.
libby emmons
That's really scary.
You could just look up.
You could just look up through somebody's license plate.
unidentified
Yeah, that's terrifying.
amber athey
I'm going to look up mine.
I don't remember off the top of my head.
phil labonte
It's really bad.
And if you want to see, you know, if you want to see, like, or if there is going to be some kind of civil conflict attacking private citizens for owning the wrong kind of car.
libby emmons
Owning the wrong car.
phil labonte
Yeah, that'll be something that'll set people off.
libby emmons
And these are all lefties who bought Teslas.
And why isn't the government shutting this website down?
tim pool
I just want to pause real quick, and it doesn't look like the website has privacy protection.
And I just pulled up its Whois data.
unidentified
Oh, good.
libby emmons
Oh, who is it?
tim pool
I don't know if I should say because...
libby emmons
You want to dox the doxer?
tim pool
Well, I don't know if this is a service.
But, yeah, I don't know.
It looks like it's a service.
Yeah, it's a privacy provider.
Okay.
Alright, so they do have domain privacy.
Interesting.
Interesting.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, look, the fact that this stuff is...
tim pool
You know, got privacy from the FBI.
And the FBI should...
Well, here's the question.
To the people who made this website, what do you do?
Does the FBI arrest them?
It's free speech, right?
I don't think boxing is free speech, is it?
It is.
You are allowed to go out in public and hold up someone's address, phone number, social security number, all that.
phil labonte
Really?
tim pool
You're just not allowed to do it on X. Private companies usually say, hey, don't do that.
So does the FBI say this is an intention case?
This is not a speech issue?
This is you compiling data for the purpose of targeting individuals with acts of terrorism?
Actually, I would say this.
The icon of the Molotov cocktail probably did it.
phil labonte
Yeah.
amber athey
It's what they tell people to do with the information.
tim pool
Right.
phil labonte
Another thing is...
tim pool
Oh, no, no, no.
I'm sorry.
The website outright calls for people to commit crimes.
amber athey
There you go.
unidentified
Yeah.
amber athey
You can't do that.
tim pool
Yeah.
It says if you're on the hunt for a Tesla to unleash your flair with a spray paint can, no map needed.
You can use their...
Right.
Okay.
So Cash and Dan should immediately just say to this American-based privacy provider, yeah, uh-uh.
Subpoena.
Who is it?
They're calling for criminal actions.
phil labonte
Yeah.
I mean, I don't know that that'll stop people, but I think that they should definitely do that because, look, someone's going to get hurt.
tim pool
They also provide a link to a list of tools to get away with committing crimes.
phil labonte
Oh.
libby emmons
Really?
What's that?
tim pool
I'm not going to say.
phil labonte
Just throw these people in jail.
Pick them up.
Pick them up.
Send the FBI.
Pick them up.
Right to jail.
Right to jail.
tim pool
If you vandalize Tesla, believe it or not, right to jail.
phil labonte
This is all BS.
They're intending to terrorize people.
They're terrorists.
They should all be...
Picked up and prosecuted under terrorism for breaking...
amber athey
They gave a guy 20 years in prison for shaking a fence outside of the Capitol.
phil labonte
Yeah, throw him in jail.
amber athey
Let's go.
phil labonte
Throw him in jail and throw the book at him.
This shouldn't even be a question.
tim pool
I will say I and my family are nowhere listed on any of this, so that's the first thing I checked.
But I also want to stress, with all the swattings that are going on, we've been there, done that years ago.
So our circumstances that pertains to swattings are dramatically different.
As I mentioned this quite a bit, without going into great detail of our basic security parameters, the first and most obvious thing for anyone to understand, if you're a company, you're basically SWAT proof.
You can't SWAT an office building.
Like, you can, but then there's going to be a private security contractor who already has a direct line of the cops.
So what ends up happening is someone tries swatting a studio building and the cops are going to call the private security contractor and say, you guys all good over there?
They go, all good.
Bye.
Click.
Nothing happens.
So for us, when it comes to stuff like this, there's not...
I mean, obviously we have our security concerns, but for the most part, we are not in the same boat as your average conservative personality or Tesla owner.
unidentified
And...
tim pool
Wow.
As a Tesla shareholder...
I am deeply angered.
But I'm wondering if they compile this information through sightings, right?
amber athey
I would think so.
tim pool
So it's got info on chargers and Teslas.
That's easily pulled from any website.
They can get an API for anything to find Tesla chargers.
Google Maps has it.
But as for individual owners...
libby emmons
Yeah, that's really scary.
unidentified
Whoa!
tim pool
It doxes Cash Patel.
libby emmons
Oh my goodness.
amber athey
Oh, it's over for them.
tim pool
Yeah.
amber athey
You donezo.
tim pool
I'm not going to show this, but I just...
Cash Patel's address.
Home address.
phil labonte
Pick him up.
tim pool
Yo.
phil labonte
Round him up.
tim pool
That's balls.
Cash Patel's address is in here.
libby emmons
That's really wild.
tim pool
Is that real?
unidentified
That's crazy.
tim pool
Yo, that's messed up.
libby emmons
I mean, it's messed up all around.
phil labonte
Let the roundups begin.
Get them all.
tim pool
Wow, man.
I want to try and see if I can verify this.
I'm not going to show anything, of course.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, look, there's nothing more to say about this, honestly.
They should just...
They're terrorists.
The intent is to strike fear in the hearts of people that would support Elon Musk or Donald Trump or Doge.
Round them up.
libby emmons
Yeah, I mean, the people who made this website calling for violence should probably see some charges.
tim pool
It's got what appears to be a list of government employees working with Elon Musk.
amber athey
Right, yeah, members of Doge.
phil labonte
Yeah.
amber athey
Yep.
phil labonte
I mean, I understand that there's going to be pushback when you try to actually cut the government and stuff.
But this is something that, like, libertarians have been talking about doing this for literally ever.
tim pool
Mike Benz.
phil labonte
Doing cuts like Doge talks about doing.
Cutting the size and scope of government.
This is the kind of stuff that I've been hoping to see for all of my entire adult life, you know?
And so, you know, people are going to be like, oh, well, we're going to attack you for it.
amber athey
Also consider, in addition to people just looking up license plate numbers, there could also be members of law enforcement who are involved in this who have access to those databases.
If they went rogue, they could easily just look up license plate numbers and you immediately have all of the registrant's information.
tim pool
Wow, man.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
tim pool
Cash Patel.
Yo.
Cash.
Stop these guys.
amber athey
Apparently Mike Benz is on there too.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
I just saw that.
libby emmons
Maybe we shouldn't say the names of high-profile people who are on this list so people don't go trying to find them.
amber athey
I want them to know so they shut it down.
libby emmons
They should know for sure.
They should know.
tim pool
Man, that's crazy.
Alright, well, we got two more stories to get to.
Let's go to this big one first.
From Newsweek, Trump demands impeachment of Crooked Judge.
So this story is bubbling up.
libby emmons
He's not the only one.
Brandon Gill too.
tim pool
Brandon Gill?
Called for the impeachment of the judge?
unidentified
Yeah, he filed, I think he filed some legislation or impeachment, articles of impeachment.
libby emmons
Yeah, for the judge.
tim pool
We are, can I just, is it, is it okay if I say it?
Yeah, go ahead.
Civil War.
We are dealing with judges that are trying to, that have declared, this judge, he declared he has equitable power to President Trump.
libby emmons
Oh, that's nuts.
tim pool
And here's the question I asked in the morning, on the morning show, guys, for those that are listening.
If you served in the military, my question for you is this.
Actually, let me pull up the post of Millennial because I know you guys got a picture of this here, Feller.
libby emmons
Yeah, we do.
tim pool
And let me scroll down and find it.
libby emmons
He's also like a Harvard guy.
He's like a Harvard professor or something like that.
tim pool
Harvard guy, huh?
And we also have the update from Justice Roberts.
libby emmons
I'm thinking of a different guy.
tim pool
So here's my question for you guys.
You served in the military.
So Donald Trump lands on Marine One and...
You know, security detail, they come out.
Trump walks out and he walks up to you.
Whatever your rank was, I don't care.
And he says, listen, I'm giving you an order.
I need this thing done now.
Please go do it.
In fact, he says to you, we've got a plane over there that we need prepped and ready to go.
Call anyone you need to call to get it ready.
We're going to have people coming in.
I want you to get that plane ready now.
Would you do it?
Now, as they can answer in the comments.
Do you guys think that if Trump went to any military member, just landing there, they had no idea was showing up, and he looked at some regular guy, maybe it's an NCO, and he said, get that plane ready, call who you need to call, we need it ready in one hour, do you think that person would say yes,
sir?
amber athey
Yeah, why wouldn't they?
tim pool
Now, what if Judge Boasberg arrived?
In a helicopter.
And got out in his judge robes and walked up to NCO and says, get that plane ready to go.
You have one hour.
What do you think they're going to say?
phil labonte
There is a significant possibility.
unidentified
They'd be like, what?
tim pool
I actually think they're going to say, sir, you're in restricted grounds.
Identify yourself.
So that's what's crazy about the idea that this lower court judge in D.C. thinks he has more power than the president.
Or, I'm sorry, equal power.
He said equal.
unidentified
That's the thing.
amber athey
They're co-equal branches of government, and yet the judges are behaving as if they are superior to the executive branch.
And one of the things that I loved about Stephen Miller's interview on CNN about this issue was he brought up the fact that judges don't have the authority to stop troop movements or matters relating to foreign policy.
That's at the discretion of the commander-in-chief.
Once Trump invoked the authority under the Alien Enemies Act, that judge doesn't have any say over what happens next.
libby emmons
Well, and also, Trump declared the cartels and the criminal gangs terrorists.
amber athey
Exactly.
libby emmons
And then you're going to go to war with terrorists, and so then the law perfectly matches.
It's fine.
tim pool
I want you to envision.
What was the guy's name?
Spitzer?
The guy who bombed...
Who bombed Nagasaki and Hiroshima?
I have the magazine right there.
libby emmons
The Enola Gay?
tim pool
No, no, the general.
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
Which general oversaw bombing of Nagasaki?
libby emmons
You know, they have the Enola Gay at the National Air and Space Museum in Chantilly.
tim pool
It was Curtis, General Curtis Lime and Leslie Groves.
I want you to imagine that these guys sitting there with their cigars are like, boys, load it up, put the bomb in.
We're flying to Japan.
And then as the plane's in midair, a D.C. court judge goes, No!
No!
Turn those planes around right now!
And the general goes, Ah, shucks.
All right, boys, send them home.
A local district court judge told us we can't fly those planes.
And these aren't even presidents.
These are generals.
They're going to be like, Excuse me?
And that ain't happening.
The president can give me the order.
You can't.
But more importantly, imagine the president tells some guys, Get on this plane.
We have enemy combatants that are being sent to a foreign country that we have negotiated with, and a district court judge bangs the gavel and says, turn those planes around, mister!
It's insane!
phil labonte
Yeah, the judiciary is not supposed to interpose itself in between the president and the will of the people.
The American people, and I said this last night, the American people...
Elected the president.
The president is the only person in the United States federal government that is elected by the whole of the body politic.
Everyone else is a representative of a different area or congressional district or state or whatever.
The people elected the president.
Clearly, they wanted his agenda implemented.
Judges, and it's multiple judges now.
libby emmons
Yeah, there's a lot of judges.
One judge today required that some USAID employees be rehired and their credentials given back.
tim pool
Sorry, that was a general's name, General Spatz.
And he oversaw Pacific Command when they bombed Japan.
amber athey
And Chief Justice John Roberts obviously does not know what time it is because it is far overdue for the Supreme Court to start.
Slapping these guys on the hands and telling them you have overstepped your authority, because there have been dozens of injunctions across the nation against Trump's policy, and the Supreme Court takes on average about 80 cases a term.
They're not going to be capable of, when this comes up in June, of taking on 40, 50 cases against the Trump administration and resolving all of this in a timely fashion.
This is intentional to slow walk the policies, and inevitably the Supreme Court's only going to take, let's say, one or two.
unidentified
I don't think that's a good idea.
tim pool
joke for you guys.
What do you get when you cross an out of control bureaucratic state of judges and other bureaucratic officials who believe that they have equal powers to a president and are trying to obstruct the popular mandate and
At the same time, far-left terrorists are firebombing Tesla dealerships and calling and swatting attempted murder attempts on prominent conservatives, directly targeting them with threats of fear, violence and death.
When you cross that with, an administration that won a popular mandate is seeking to gut and dismantle that bureaucratic state and get rid of tens of millions of criminal aliens in this country with a population also angered at the attacks against them and willing to defend themselves.
libby emmons
Something like Brazil.
phil labonte
I know what you're looking at, but I'm not going to say it.
tim pool
Two words.
phil labonte
Civil War, I told you.
tim pool
So, again, I'm being a little bit hyperbolic, but if now is not...
Look.
If it is not the craziest point as of yet, since we've had these discussions, then I don't know what else you could be possibly looking for.
It's one thing when a roving band of lunatics, or millions of them, like we saw in the hundreds of thousands in the Summer of Love, it's one thing when they're going around smashing buildings and firebombing buildings, and we see like a mayor join in.
And then the president's staff fundraisers for these criminals, and then the vice president directly solicits funds for these criminals.
That's kind of worrying.
But right now what we're looking at, with this judge going up against Trump, It is like they are trying to use simultaneously terrorism against Elon and conservatives with the swattings, as well as administrative attacks on the Constitution.
The crazy thing is, if you go to any one of these liberals, there's no argument to be had.
That's why I say, or to quote Phil, there's no off-ramp.
You go to a liberal and say, a lower court judge...
Cannot instruct a president to alter his military operations.
They'll go, yes, they can.
libby emmons
Well, what the judges aren't realizing, and that was what was so interesting about Stephen Miller's CNN.
That was a really fascinating segment because the CNN, whatever her name is, the pundit there, and I think these judges don't realize that they are, in fact, interfering in military operations.
That's what this is.
When you're exporting, when you're taking criminal...
Gang members out of the country and putting them in prison and saying, you're not going to be wrecking havoc in our country anymore.
That is a military thing.
And a mass deportation is a military thing.
That's why it was, I think, so key that, you know, you have Trump, you have Tom Holman, you have all of this effort to remove criminals very specifically, to remove gang members very specifically.
But when it comes to your average people who are who the crime that they committed was illegally crossing the border and they've just been existing without issue since then, you have the new CBP.
home app which has been repurposed love it to uh allow for self-deportation what's crazy about that app it was created under the trump administration to allow for the quick importation of perishable goods was repurposed under biden to allow
illegal immigration and has now been repurposed to uh allow people to go home yeah i mean oh man
amber athey
The CBP1 app was such a scandal.
It didn't get talked about enough during the Biden administration because people talked about so and so number of people are coming in through the CBP1 app.
But the craziest part about that app is that there was no tracking function.
You had to rely on illegal aliens to...
They voluntarily check in, and only then would the government get their location at the time they checked in, but it didn't continue tracking them the entire time they had the app on their phone.
libby emmons
On their free Biden phone.
amber athey
Yeah.
libby emmons
Yeah.
Their free Biden phone.
tim pool
Well, have you guys seen the commercials now that Trump is running?
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
Actual commercial advertisements.
amber athey
Yeah.
tim pool
Go home, use the app.
You could leave now, and maybe you could come back.
amber athey
Also, the closing time video.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
amber athey
So great.
tim pool
But Kristi Noem, have you seen that she's running commercials as well?
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, legit commercials on TV.
Go home now, and maybe you can come back legally.
amber athey
It's a public service announcement.
tim pool
Yeah.
Well, I mean, I'm for it.
But over these past several years, the conversations around the escalation of, like, let me pause and go back in time.
I had a conversation in 2018 where a prominent D.C. Politico writer said, Civil war is impossible in this country.
You're stupid.
The security state would have never allowed that to happen.
Okay, well, here we are at the highest levels of government where Trump is directly going to war with the bureaucratic state.
There is no security state anymore.
There are two factions at the highest level trying to rip each other to shreds, and Trump didn't start it.
They tried putting him in prison.
They tried impeaching him twice.
Here we are.
I'm kind of worried about where this ends up.
I think we may see, as of right now, the most logical conclusion is going to be a high degree of terroristic insurgency from the far left, which may end up resulting in a more authoritarian right style of government, where you'll end up with security checkpoints,
and you're going to end up with people likely on our side tolerating it.
You know, it's fascinating when I see all these memes from libertarians where they're like, The interview I did with Donald Trump is going viral now because Trump started bombing Yemen.
And Trump said, you don't need to do that.
You can negotiate.
I'm pretty sure that that was well before they blocked the Red Sea and started bombing cargo ships with the help of the Iranian logistics.
Not that I like that Trump is bombing the rebels, bombing the Houthis, but I also don't know.
I don't know what you do when global shipping containers are being bombed, when freighters are being bombed.
But my point is...
Many of these people are now claiming that the right has become hypocritical because they are supporting things that a year ago they didn't want to support.
And then once again, I just come back to the, I just don't care.
Away with ye, weak-spined libertarians.
I am not so naive.
I understand.
Let me put it this way.
To avoid any doubt, Abraham Lincoln is the most popular president in history.
When people are asked, poll after poll after poll says, Abraham Lincoln's the most popular.
And why is that?
Because he held the union together, I guess.
He also suspended habeas corpus.
Remember that?
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
Conscripted people.
And he arrested the legislature in Maryland, large portions of it, because they were sympathetic to the Confederacy.
Several people were arrested without charge or trial.
And we celebrate that he did it all.
So in the event that Donald Trump pulls a Lincoln and starts arresting far-left extremists and we end up with a wartime president...
I'm not a fan of any of these things, but I'm not so naive to be like, you've just got to let the far left burn the country to the ground and let people invade.
libby emmons
Well, when it comes to...
I kind of agree with that.
When it comes to the...
The whole bombing the Houthis thing.
It's kind of like the Barbary Pirates situation.
And Thomas Jefferson went in there and he was like, we're not going to take this anymore.
We keep trying to negotiate with you so that you let our ships through and now we're going to go to war with you.
amber athey
It was like a famous anti-interventionist, by the way.
libby emmons
Famous for that.
Yeah, exactly.
So I think that there's certainly precedent to protect shipping lanes.
And Trump is already doing something.
amber athey
We're responsible for them.
libby emmons
Yeah.
amber athey
I mean, we have agreements with practically every country on those shipping routes that we are in charge of the security.
libby emmons
And then also you had Trump saying that he was going to hold Iran accountable, and I think that makes sense as well.
tim pool
I'm also just—I have a question for the libertarians.
Do we— Just stay out of it.
I'm not trying to be a dick.
I'm a literally honest question for the libertarians.
When the Houthi rebels, there's an Iranian vessel providing logistics to Houthi rebels.
They're effectively pulling their own version of piracy where Iran says, we're not involved.
We're just passing information along.
Got nothing to do with it.
And the Houthi rebels are attacking cargo vessels.
Is the libertarian position we should just let them control the Red Sea and the Suez Canal and all that stuff?
phil labonte
The libertarian position is if we stopped supporting Israel, that would mean that the Houthis would stop, which I think is insane.
libby emmons
Okay, well, hold on.
tim pool
We're a few degrees separated, but I agree with you.
That's what they'll say.
So my response is, sure, indeed.
Right now...
Would the response then be, in order to stop the Houthis from attacking the Red Sea, in the Red Sea, should we announce we are defunding Israel?
amber athey
No, that's we.
libby emmons
No, no, no.
tim pool
I'm asking the libertarians.
Do they genuinely believe that if we said we will no longer fund Israel, the Houthis would be like, okay, everybody, pack it in, we're going home?
phil labonte
They believe that if we stop supporting Israel, then literally, I'm not kidding around, they believe that if we stop supporting Israel...
Israel would end up getting taken over by the Palestinians, and they believe that that would mean peace in the Middle East.
tim pool
But that's not going to stop the attacks right now.
phil labonte
I think it's crazy.
No, it's not, but that's what they'll say.
libby emmons
It would also not stop the radical Islamists from coming for America.
phil labonte
No, no.
libby emmons
And Christians and Europe.
unidentified
No.
Not at all.
tim pool
I don't know.
But ladies and gentlemen, we have a media story to get into.
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Ladies and gentlemen, breaking news.
Daily Wire co-CEO Jeremy Boring to step down.
This story has led to a whole bunch of conspiracy shenanigans.
So there's two CEOs of the Daily Wire.
And with Jeremy Boring stepping down, they say, We'll become the company's full-time CEO effective immediately.
Robinson and Boring have been co-CEOs since 2019.
Robinson co-founded the company alongside Boring and the outlet's editor emeritus Ben Shapiro.
In a note to staff, Boring said he will remain with the company in an advisory role.
We'll continue to host Daily Wire backstage with the company's monthly show featuring Ben Shapiro, Matt Walsh, Michael Knowles, and Andrew Klavan.
He'll focus full-time on creative projects, including the completion of the Daily Wire's TV series, The Pendragon Cycle, in which he serves as director and executive producer.
They're going to mention he's loved the Daily Wire's commercial expansion over the past decade, growing the outlet from a social media publishing brand to a streamer and e-commerce giant.
Daily Wire Plus, Pentkey, etc.
Robinson and Shapiro plan to continue pursuing a growth investment in 2025.
So this is another story that we saw back in December that they were looking for investment.
unidentified
Brett Cooper posted this.
tim pool
Just an image of Jimmy Kimmel slowly turning and looking to the camera and then giving a little nod.
I have no idea what that means.
So one can only speculate.
But I suppose it implies that Brett Cooper and Jeremy Boring did not get along.
Honestly, I don't know.
I think Jeremy's a great guy.
I can send him a friend.
I wish him the best.
Had no idea this was going to happen.
Brett Cooper says, genuinely excited to see where Ben and Caleb take the company next.
And then, of course, Jeremy Boring confirms this by tweeting it out with a new chapter.
And my favorite element of this is a tweet from Ian Carroll.
Daily Wire CEO Jeremy Boring stepping down.
Oh no.
There's so much more tea than that.
My sources have been telling me about the story for months.
Here's the inside scoop.
I'd like to just jump ahead to a portion of Ian Carroll's video and press play for you guys.
And here we go.
ian carroll
...interproduction and did not nearly recoup the costs.
So then you remember when Tim Pool was kind of rearranging his business and all sorts of weird stuff was happening there?
I don't even know if Tim knows this yet directly, but it sounds like The Daily Wire was trying to manipulate him into buying The Daily Wire and trying to present it as super profitable.
The rumors I'm hearing is that Jeremy Boring thought Tim Pool would be dumb enough to fall for it, and he was the exact kind of guy they could sell to.
I heard that they allegedly offered him an all-stock deal, which would be worth fucking shit because their stock is fucking worthless because they're bankrupt, allegedly.
So props, Tim, for not taking that deal.
unidentified
That would have been a huge...
tim pool
I must admit, my friends, I can't believe that the story has been leaked.
That's right.
I'm a billionaire.
I'm actually an heir to an emerald mine in South Africa.
And I am so wealthy that when The Daily Wire was in financial distress, they came to me and said, Tim, your show is about 20% as large as our company.
No, I'm sorry, 7%.
Perhaps you could buy us out.
Yo, this is my favorite part of the conspiracy theory because people are hitting me up all day like, is this true?
libby emmons
Yeah, you should have got a loan from China and then bought The Daily Wire.
tim pool
What does an all-stock sale mean?
phil labonte
I don't have any idea.
tim pool
We're going to give you all of the, like, okay, just real quick.
If the Daily Wire was going to sell their company to me, that implies I am buying all of the stock in the company.
So an all-stock sale would imply that they wanted stock in Timcast in exchange for all of the stock in Daily Wire?
Or they wanted to give me all of the stock?
In all seriousness, what?
unidentified
I don't even know that the Daily Wire was publicly traded.
tim pool
The quartering, Jeremy Hambly says, the whole thing falls apart at, quote, they thought Tim Poole could buy the Daily Wire.
The Daily Wire is a $1 billion evaluation.
The claim the Daily Wire thought TimCast has the assets is totally insane.
I mean, Tim makes a lot of cash, but...
Dude, there was never any circumstance in which anyone ever asked me to buy the Daily Wire.
I have no idea where that comes from.
And what source claimed that the daily...
Okay.
The concept of an all-stock deal makes no sense in regard to a sale.
So I don't know who told Ian that.
I'm trying to be a dick, Ian.
But that's crazy.
phil labonte
Eli Wire is privately owned.
It's not true.
tim pool
But they have investors.
phil labonte
Yeah, but it's not...
libby emmons
No, but I mean, people have stock in the company.
Like, the owners and stuff have stock in the company.
tim pool
Yeah, equity.
They probably do issue shares in some form.
libby emmons
Like, we have that at Postmillennial, you know?
tim pool
But, like, they were going to sell the company to me for shares.
That implies...
libby emmons
Shares in the company, the new company.
tim pool
That would...
amber athey
An all-stock sale would mean that the company that's...
They get all the stocks from the company that's buying them.
libby emmons
Right.
amber athey
So from your company.
tim pool
Exactly.
It would be implying that they approached me and said, Tim, we want half of Timcast in exchange for all of Daily Wire.
amber athey
Correct.
tim pool
Yeah, okay.
Yeah, that's just nonsense.
But anyway, what do you guys think?
I mean, this is kind of unexpected.
This is Jeremy Boring stepping down.
It's a big media move.
phil labonte
Look, man, I think that Pendragon is expensive, and that's why.
tim pool
Those are the rumors.
But I gotta be honest, you know, with Ian Carroll's assessment on a lot of these things, I don't think they're right.
So he was saying previously that they were, like, he's saying in this video they're bankrupt and they froze all their credit cards and stuff like that.
That's not true.
That's impossible.
Like, guys, I know they're seeking investment funding.
Daily Wire wants to be bigger than just, you know, like a podcast sales company.
But we've all been there.
They've got a merch department where they sell products.
I think they publicly announced that Mayflower Cigars did like $5 million in sales.
They are not hurting for money.
They are looking for rapid expansion in the short term.
That's what the investment is for.
When I first heard that Jeremy was stepping down, I was like, I kind of just imagine he's an extremely wealthy middle-aged man who doesn't want to be the king of the mountain anymore.
libby emmons
I think that's reasonable.
tim pool
Yeah.
libby emmons
I think it's a lot to be the king of the mountain.
tim pool
Certainly is.
And for a company as big as The Daily Wire, I'm wondering if he's just like, I've got a family, I've got kids, and I've got more money than I know what to do with.
libby emmons
He's got Jeremy's razors and all that.
He's got that whole thing.
tim pool
Oh, right.
And I'm wondering what his ownership of percentages are on that.
He's probably looking at, he's going to be rich forever.
The products he's made, he's going to make forever.
He's stepping down as CEO.
He's probably getting paid forever.
He's an owner in the company.
He's going to be rich forever.
And the idea that the Daily Wire would freeze everybody's credit cards and shut down, you would know a lot more about the financial distress of the company before that happened.
Because that's what a credit card is.
It's money that's not yours to spend on things.
So there are a lot of companies that go bankrupt well before they shut down credit cards.
amber athey
People who are at the top of a really profitable company and are deeply ambitious often have a difficult time just walking away, though.
libby emmons
Yeah, like look at Brett Favre.
He couldn't walk away.
tim pool
I don't know.
In the business world, there are founders and there are CEOs.
And that's one of the first things you learn when you're working for a startup.
The reason why people go to Shark Tank?
Because they're founders, they're not CEOs.
They're going to the guys who run businesses and say, I thought of a product.
I've sold, you know, $100,000 in product.
I need someone who runs a business to take it over.
And Jeremy's better than most in that he started it and built up to this point.
But let's be real.
It's been, what, 10 years?
And now he's stepping down?
That seems totally normal.
Did we think he was going to be, you know, CEO for life and then retire and they'd build a Mickey Mouse, like Walt Disney kind of statue of him with Ben Shapiro hugging or something?
phil labonte
The drama people.
libby emmons
That'd be cute.
tim pool
Perhaps.
phil labonte
It's just the whole situation is really just the drama situation.
It's pretty normal for someone to step down like Tim was saying.
I mean, it's kind of a non-issue.
The Brett Cooper aspect might be a little bit interesting considering she shouted out Caleb and Ben.
So clearly there's some friction between her and Jeremy.
But otherwise it's like, well...
So he's doing other things.
I don't have any kind of inside knowledge as to how things are working there.
I assume that they spent a boatload of money on the Pendragon cycle.
I haven't seen any kind of previews for it.
libby emmons
Is that the children's show one?
phil labonte
No, it's their version of Game of Thrones.
libby emmons
Oh, it's their Game of Thrones.
amber athey
Are they ever going to release the Snow White movie or is that dead?
phil labonte
I think that's dead.
libby emmons
Yeah, what happened with that?
I sort of liked that.
I mean, they basically forced Disney to return to some of the more traditional aspects of Snow White.
phil labonte
I think because of the rebooting of Disney, Disney doing the reshoots and stuff, I think that made the Daily Wire say, well, we're not going to do it because we have, or basically we got Disney to do what we wanted.
tim pool
That's what I hear.
That they've abandoned Snow White?
phil labonte
Yeah, I think the Daily Wire is not doing the Snow White.
I thought Brett Cooper was going to be Snow White.
So they're not doing it.
libby emmons
I thought Gina Carano should have been the Wicked Queen.
amber athey
I thought she said they were filming when she was in Budapest.
phil labonte
Yeah.
I don't know, but she's not with them now, and I assume that it's not coming out.
But the reason that, from what I understand, and this is not any kind of insider information or whatever, this is just what I've heard, is the reason that it's not coming out is because...
tim pool
But it's not coming out?
phil labonte
Disney decided to redo...
That's what I heard.
tim pool
But Disney went hardcore woke to the extent that they canceled the red carpet for Snow White.
libby emmons
Well, there was a lot of pushback, but they did reverse a bunch of things.
phil labonte
Yeah, because it was supposed to be the seven friends or whatever.
unidentified
They didn't have the diversity dwarves anymore.
libby emmons
Yeah, they got rid of the diversity dwarves.
phil labonte
Seven companions, and they made actual dwarves, and they did a bunch of reshoots, and because of the reshoots, Daily Wire said, okay, they're not doing...
The woke Snow White.
tim pool
As far as I know, it's still set for release this year.
phil labonte
Is it?
unidentified
Yeah.
Alright.
libby emmons
We'll see.
Didn't the Disney Snow White just premiered in Barcelona or something?
phil labonte
And no one likes it, if I understand correctly.
amber athey
And one of them didn't go to the premiere or something.
One of the actresses.
libby emmons
Oh, really?
amber athey
Yeah.
libby emmons
Interesting.
Well, Rachel Ziegler was there so that she could say she hates the movie.
tim pool
I mean...
libby emmons
She hates everything Disney.
tim pool
Maybe they cancelled it?
Maybe the trailer is just, uh...
unidentified
Looks like they made a lot of it.
I know this is not new though.
No, this is from 23. I mean, I haven't heard any updates.
phil labonte
I haven't heard anything in a while.
unidentified
Okay, well...
tim pool
It's a crazy world we live in.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
I mean...
libby emmons
I love the original Snow White.
I really...
tim pool
Yeah, and Rachel Zegler keeps taking dumps all over it.
libby emmons
Yeah, she's wrong.
I mean, the original Snow White movie is just terrific.
phil labonte
She's a very, very modern feminist woman, and...
That is, I mean, wrong.
libby emmons
Well, I was a modern feminist before her, and it's still a killer film.
Great movie.
phil labonte
Fair enough.
amber athey
It was the first animated film, right?
libby emmons
Wasn't it?
Yeah.
phil labonte
It might have been, yeah.
libby emmons
And the thing, too, that's so great about that story and what got screwed up in the...
Rachel Zegler version from how she was talking about it.
She was talking about it like there's no prince.
There's no falling in love.
It's just blind ambition because of how much power she could have.
But that's the Wicked Queen's role.
The Wicked Queen's role is to be all about blind ambition.
And the counter to that is having love and caring about other things.
phil labonte
Whenever the left tries to reboot or do a female as the strong They always turn them into a villain, right?
So Snow White is, oh, well, it's not about finding true love and blah, blah, blah.
It's I'm going to be the most that I can.
Well, that was exactly what the evil queen or the witch or whatever it was.
And they did the same thing with, what is it?
Captain Marvel.
She literally beat up a...
She's super-powered.
And a guy says to her, you should smile or something.
So she beats him up and takes his clothes.
tim pool
And his motorcycle.
phil labonte
So she robs him.
Yeah, she was evil.
tim pool
And they wanted people to cheer for that.
They wanted women to cheer for that.
phil labonte
Because they're idiots.
tim pool
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Just saying.
Just saying is all.
But don't forget, we got that uncensored members-only call-in show coming up at 10, where you, as members of the TimCast Discord, call into the show and talk to us and our guests.
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Let's grab some of your chats.
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Speaking of number one, tune in to PCC, Pop Culture Crisis, 2 p.m. tomorrow for episode 800.
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Monday through Friday, 3 to 5. Alpha Turkey says, Phil is right.
The issue is always the revolution.
Also, Phil, you took my advice and I see them triceps coming back.
phil labonte
Thanks.
tim pool
Well, alright.
Let's see what we have here.
Stop the Stalking says, conspiracy theories exist because of what they don't want to find.
Never what they hid.
Hiding isn't necessary if you never find it.
Like COVID.
Hans1PK says, did you see page 45689?
It tells us the truth of JFK.
Come on, people.
Understand radical transparency requires digging through the files.
It's not as simple as a three-page document.
phil labonte
Indeed.
tim pool
Just came out.
Right.
phil labonte
All right.
tim pool
Buck Bolt says, Tim, why do you think we have not heard anything about Trump's Second Amendment executive order?
The date of the response was over a week ago, and we got nothing.
Why does it feel like us and the two-way are always forgot?
I don't know.
unidentified
I don't know.
phil labonte
Because it's actually a small, dedicated group of people that care about the Second Amendment.
tim pool
I think the Second Amendment people have made tremendous victories for a long time.
So that's why it's like, you know.
Our sergeant says, Tim, I love you, but you are wrong.
If you are getting arrested, you have to be Mirandized.
If you are being detained, you do not.
Wrong!
You are incorrect.
The purpose of reading the Miranda rights, you have the right to remain silent.
Anything you say or do will be used against you in a court of law.
You have a right to attorney.
If you cannot afford an attorney, one will be appointed to you, and then I think it's what, do you understand the rights as they've been read to you?
That is when police are conducting an investigation, meaning if they ask you any questions before you've even read your rights, anything you say is inadmissible.
If a police officer witnesses you committing a crime, there's no investigation to be had.
They are the witness in court.
They simply write down, I saw them do it.
You don't need to say anything.
This is why when people get arrested for...
DUIs and are drunk.
They don't get Mirandized.
So I'm sure there are a lot of cops that want to Mirandize people.
And in the movies and TV shows, they show this.
But this is not the case.
And, you know.
So it's funny when...
This has actually come up quite a bit with all these protests.
Because there's one particular really viral moment from Occupy Wall Street where a woman is being arrested.
And she goes, I have not been read my rights!
And she yells it several times.
And the activist legal groups held meetings where they had to instruct the activists, you will not be read your rights.
Do not yell this.
And they had to explain to people not to do that because cops will not read you your rights.
I also want to just point out to you, good sir, our sergeant, imagine a scenario like the arrests in Washington, D.C. at Trump's inauguration where they arrested, I think it was, 250 people.
They loaded them onto buses and took them to the station.
Not a single one was Mirandized.
How would they Mirandize hundreds of people at once?
They don't do that.
So it's funny because we've actually had cops on the show, I'm pretty sure, talk about this.
They were like, I'm not investigating anything.
I watched you do it.
I think we're talking about Jack Posobiec getting punched by that Antifa guy.
Yep.
phil labonte
All right.
tim pool
Let's grab some more of these here messages from all y 'alls.
What say you, Dan Harlan?
Sorry I'm late.
But I had to go back to make sure I heard that someone was an anti-communist and counter-revolutionary.
Was not disappointed.
Let's go.
phil labonte
Yep.
tim pool
I also want to stress the new...
I figured out the best way to get likes because you tell people smash the like button and they say, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But if I say every like is one more year to Fauci's prison sentence, we got 17,500 likes yesterday.
phil labonte
You deserve every one of them.
tim pool
So smash that like button!
And then I will take a screenshot and I will send it to the president and say, that's how many years he's got to get.
phil labonte
He knows the president.
He's met him.
tim pool
He knows the president.
I would like to see some real accountability, but I doubt Fauci will give in a year.
We'll see what happens.
libby emmons
All right.
He's been pardoned.
tim pool
Did he get pardoned or did a robot sign a document?
Okay, I just want you to imagine they're in the White House.
It's Fauci.
It's Hunter.
It's Millie.
And they're sitting there looking at each other and there's just sweat pouring down their faces.
And then they're like, hit the buttons.
And then they slide the pardon.
They print it up and they press the button and it goes, Joe Biden.
And then he's like, okay, let's get out of here.
libby emmons
Well, you have to put a card in that machine to make it work.
Hunter Biden's pardon was previous to that.
I think the last day pardons were Millie Fauci and the J6 committee.
But Hunter's pardon was previous to that.
So I think Hunter's is legit.
Because, you know, you're going to look after your bag man.
That's important to you.
But yeah, what I think is interesting about this AutoPen thing is you had the Oversight Project come out today and isolate 32 other instances where AutoPen was used on, you know, whatever other stuff,
warrants, clemencies, and some other things.
Pardons.
Warrants of Clement.
Whatever.
Whatever it is.
You know what it is.
I don't know what it is.
tim pool
Heritage pointed out.
libby emmons
You had all of this.
Yeah, it was Heritage.
It all came out.
tim pool
They pointed out that some of the pardons previously issued were on dates.
Biden was not in the United States.
libby emmons
Right.
tim pool
So he did not.
libby emmons
So he did not do it himself, but he could have authorized it.
And I think it makes sense to ask about that.
I mean, don't write presidents in communication.
They all know each other.
tim pool
I think that outright voids them.
libby emmons
I don't think it voids them retroactively.
You're right.
A law could be made at this point saying you can't use auto pen for clemency.
They're not real.
tim pool
They're not real.
And I'm sorry, that's your fault.
If you sign pardons with an auto pen, that's your fault.
Could you imagine if I were like signing a legal document and then they found out I didn't actually authorize a signature?
libby emmons
What about all the Eagle Scouts who got letters from the president about how great it was that they were Eagle Scouts?
Does he not actually care?
tim pool
Of course he doesn't.
I would say right now, the Supreme Court has not adjudicated the issue of Autopen.
Therefore, the Biden administration has opened themselves up to this by issuing pardons signed with Autopen.
That means Trump can challenge whether or not Biden had knowledge of these, and they're going to have to justify if Biden did.
Then you have the argument that even Jake Tapper has argued Biden is cognitively impaired.
And then you can ask, is a cognitively impaired president able to give authorization on signing documents?
And I think the conclusion is going to be no.
Because if cognitively impaired presidents had launched Z missiles, we would say no to that, even if they are the president.
libby emmons
So how does this end up at the Supreme Court?
Someone would have to— Prosecute Fauci.
Yeah.
tim pool
And then Fauci's going—his defense is going to go to the judge and say, I've got a pardon.
libby emmons
Prosecute Benny Thompson first.
tim pool
Sure.
The judge is going to say, it's a pardon.
Bang.
Dismissed.
They appeal to a higher court, and they argue that pardon ain't legit because Joe Biden was not— Do you think they're going to take the time to do all this?
I don't know.
I'd imagine no.
And as much as people want the cathartic release of Fauci in jail, I think Trump's concern is move forward and win the battlefield.
I want you to imagine the scenario where Donald Trump is marching to the sea and he is burning down every farm, destroying roads and railroad tracks.
libby emmons
You mean like Sherman?
tim pool
Exactly.
But he's in the deep state.
And a bunch of people go, Mr. President, stop.
Stop attacking the deep state.
Because 10 miles behind you is Dr. Fauci.
Go get him instead.
Trump's going to be like, I know you're mad.
I know you want us to arrest him, but we have a mission and we are going to march to the sea.
He ain't going to stop.
So I don't see the DOJ deciding to apply resources to go after one guy because it would feel good and we know it's justice, when the reality is Trump's saying, let's make sure they can never do it again.
amber athey
I don't know, though.
The DOJ is also...
Doing an investigation into the remaining military officials who were responsible for the Afghanistan withdrawal.
tim pool
That's based.
libby emmons
Yeah.
amber athey
We asked them about that this week.
tim pool
But they're still active, right?
They're still in the military?
That's different.
Fauci's gone.
And so it's like, let's make sure this never happens again.
How?
Okay.
Those involved in Afghanistan?
Out.
Fauci?
He's already gone?
Okay.
Well, let's...
Trump's going to march to the sea on the deep state.
And then after all is said and done, maybe.
But the other thing, too, is how old is Fauci?
70-something?
libby emmons
He's an old man.
tim pool
Right.
Look, I know people want, again, the cathartic release, but I want to win.
You know what I mean?
libby emmons
I feel like there's bigger fish to fry than Fauci at this point, yeah.
tim pool
Well, I mean, he's a big fish.
I'm just saying.
If there's a guy standing to your left and the gates of the enemy's fortress are left open, you don't say, no, no, no, no, we'll go there when we get time.
Let's go take this guy.
He's a criminal, right?
We'll arrest him.
It's like, okay, maybe after you seize the fortress and disable their ability to wage political lawfare against you, then you can start dealing with things like that.
I would rather see them go into the NIH and have like RFK juniors releasing documents first.
Things like that, I think, are more important.
Learn about what they were actually funding, what was going on.
That'd be amazing.
libby emmons
Yeah, that would be worthwhile.
tim pool
Let's grab some more.
Okay, let's see.
Let's see.
Ooh, I know there's one that I want to read.
Let me see.
Where'd it go?
It just jumped on me.
So...
TheRealHydro says, Tim, have you ever thought about naming the show Dunning-Kruger Effect?
Well, I thought about it, but considering Ian's only on sometimes...
And then he says, also, how are you not tired?
You have a newborn.
Uh-huh.
That was an interesting question, as if to imply I have to be tired.
I know.
Not only do I have a newborn, but I skate every day for about an hour, and I get seven hours of sleep.
I time it.
I have a sleep tracker, two of them.
I do a morning show, and yeah, I'm not tired.
I'm not tired.
Was up till about midnight last night because, you know, baby.
And then the baby woke us up a couple times, Look, I don't feed the baby.
I'm a guy.
So I largely just sit there as the baby's mother.
phil labonte
You're ill-equipped to feed the baby.
amber athey
Well, I've always been confused by this argument that I think it's a feminist thing, that if the mom isn't sleeping, then dad shouldn't be sleeping either, and it's an indication that he's not doing enough.
But don't you want at least one parent to be well-rested?
libby emmons
I have to say, I loved being up with my son at night, like, when it was, you know, because he would, like, wake up all through the night, and I was like, oh, this is my time.
Nobody can mess with it.
phil labonte
If dad has to go to work and make the money, then mom has to get up and take care of the baby.
If there's something going on, then fine.
Like, dad, mom needs to sleep or whatever, fine.
But most of the time, that's the way that it should work.
tim pool
I have already explained to Allison.
I don't know what anyone's been talking about.
They always say, like, oh, you're going to be woken up.
What do you mean?
Every night I go to bed and all that happens, I hear a chorus of beautiful angels singing all night.
phil labonte
That's all it is.
tim pool
But, no, I mean, the baby cries and I wake up.
And then Allison, who is the mom, will feed the child.
I have no capability to do so.
And then, you know, I give her a pat on the shoulder and I go back to sleep and I wake up and I feel great.
And then it could be, I think I figured it out.
Maybe it's because I eat right and I exercise.
phil labonte
It does help.
libby emmons
I don't know.
tim pool
It's a big deal.
libby emmons
When my son was an infant, I don't remember being tired all the time.
Allison's tired.
unidentified
That's the whore bones so that you'll have another.
libby emmons
He would sleep.
unidentified
Yeah, right.
Your body forgets.
libby emmons
I also remember him being absolutely perfect, never cry.
amber athey
Exactly.
That's biology.
phil labonte
Good.
tim pool
I was going to say, that's why whenever Allison's like, oh, she woke me up at four, I'm like, all I heard was Angel singing, lulling me to a sweet, sweet sleep.
phil labonte
And Allison, seeing as Allison takes care of the baby, Allison is entitled to take a nap with the baby during the day, you know?
I'm sure that it...
libby emmons
That's the right thing to do.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
And then when I'm not working, I will...
I've bottle-fed baby.
But we're trying not to do formula.
phil labonte
Video games with baby on the chest.
tim pool
How many times?
libby emmons
There's ways to make that work out.
tim pool
Obviously we have formula because you supplement with it, but we really want to make sure baby has a proper nutritious meal.
Proper.
I don't like formula.
amber athey
RFK is looking into formula right now.
libby emmons
I don't like formula either.
tim pool
Okay, what have we here?
Dirtnap says, in the unlit Molotov scenario, you would be read your Miranda rights because it is a destructive device and illegal to possess without a tax stamp.
Why would they read you your rights if they're not investigating you?
You're literally holding the thing.
I don't think people understand.
The reason why you're Mirandized is because you have the right to remain silent.
Anything you say or do can and will be used against you.
They're telling you that because it started with...
The individual, it was a woman, right?
No, it was a guy, something Miranda.
And he didn't know they had a right to remain silent or whatever.
And then they were like, yeah, well, you should have told them, and it's not fair.
Everything he said is inadmissible.
And they went, ah, crap, he confessed.
Okay, from this point forward, read them their rights.
Therefore, everything they say after the fact is admissible.
But I don't need your words to convict you if you're literally holding a Molotov cocktail in front of a Tesla dealership.
I can literally be like, your honor, he was holding a Molotov cocktail on a lighter trying to light it in front of a Tesla dealership.
He would say, okay.
We have witness testimony from the cop.
What say you?
You gonna lie about it?
Whatever.
Here's cameras.
Anyway.
Our sergeant says, are you an illegal immigrant?
Do you want to stay in America?
Turn in your coyote and or 10 known violent sexual criminal immigrants and get fast-tracked for green card evaluation.
And then when they walk into the green card room, it's just a mine cart that they sit in and it goes down like a roller coaster and then brings them back to the country they came from.
Peace.
GSO59 says, our car insurance is going to get expensive.
Indeed it is.
Teslas are insured by Tesla.
This is what's really funny because some leftists were like, ha ha, they're not going to be able to get insurance.
And I'm like, Tesla insures their own vehicles.
Like, Tesla, they have it in the app.
Boop, Tesla insurance.
phil labonte
Really?
tim pool
That's right.
You open the app, you click Tesla insurance, it goes boom and it auto bills.
Easy.
Our Sergeant says, I love the art in the studio, the skateboard, and the paintings.
Effing great.
Thank you very much.
Yeah, the skateboard is the right-to-arm bears.
So if you believe that bears should be wearing flannel shirts, straw hats, and brandishing shotguns, then boonieshq.com.
Pick up your right-to-arm bears skateboard today.
Okay, where are we at?
Someone says, did they find you, Tim?
Indeed, they did not.
They didn't.
unidentified
Although I'm pretty sure everybody knows where we are.
tim pool
You know?
The funny thing is I mentioned before, we're not in the old studio anymore and cars still pull up and just people get out and stand there.
libby emmons
At the old studio?
tim pool
Yeah.
They'll just pull up.
They pull up to the driveway and it's like a 1,000 foot driveway.
I'm not exaggerating.
It's up.
It's okay.
It's a mountain, but it's an East Coast mountain.
Guys, West Coasters, leave me alone.
libby emmons
It's hilly.
tim pool
But it is a mountain.
So these are the Blue Ridge Mountains.
And then every time I say that, people from Colorado, they cross their arms and look at me, and I'm like, you got big ones, whatever.
libby emmons
Listen, they're older.
They're older than those stupid Rockies.
tim pool
But they pull up and stop, and they get out of their car, and they just stand there staring for like 20 minutes.
And I'm like, what are they doing?
And they just stand there.
phil labonte
The mountains over here are older than the Atlantic Ocean, too.
libby emmons
Really?
phil labonte
Yeah, the Appalachias actually go into Scotland.
unidentified
That's true.
tim pool
And Norway, I believe, too.
libby emmons
I had a great time.
It was really fun.
tim pool
Yeah, the Appalachian Trail, you can take a ship, go there, and then follow it in Scotland.
I think it goes into Norway, too.
It's the International Appalachian Trail.
Yeah, very cool.
Cool indeed.
All right, where are we at?
David Smith says, Occam's Razor may be a DMV employee, but most likely a Tesla employee at a service point where all the sales info comes across their desk with all the info.
I actually think the public observation makes the most sense.
They tell their people online, if you see a Tesla, write down the license plate, and then they'll put it on the website.
That's the easiest way to do it.
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
Creepy.
libby emmons
Yeah, that is creepy.
tim pool
Stephen Sanders says, I wonder if they hacked into the Flock database, which is a license plate software that most agencies throughout the United States use to track vehicles.
Bayblade says, please upvote.
You can upvote these.
Tim, can you confirm Ian Carroll's post about the Daily Wire and you trying to buy it?
There is a universe somewhere where I am so wealthy, perhaps the heir to an emerald mine in South Africa, that I attempted to buy the Daily Wire.
No such reality.
This reality is not that one.
Timothy Rhodes says, you guys see Utah's governor got busted forging signatures to get on the ballot.
He and his governor are illegitimate based on the latest story.
I say, what?
That's crazy.
What?
That's nuts.
Uh-oh.
YouTube's giving me the business.
Let's see what we got here.
We'll grab some more.
All right.
Where are we at?
Spike 111111 says, the FBI and Laura Loomer go after this website.
My money on Loomer getting them first.
I agree with that, actually.
Laura Loomer's going to find out who's behind the website before the FBI does.
phil labonte
Laura Loomer doesn't sleep.
tim pool
I mean, she gets the job done, if you know what I mean.
She's got sources.
She gets these stories out there.
If she starts looking, she's going to figure it out.
Rosenbrand says the deep state desperately wants us divided and in a civil war.
Yeah.
I think we've talked about it before.
A civil war would be the fastest way to get rid of the Constitution.
phil labonte
Yep.
tim pool
I hope that's not the case.
Or hope it doesn't happen.
Hal Gailey says the libertarian position is aggressors are fair game.
So are they going to say that we're going to go at the Red Sea or something?
phil labonte
They always say that Israel is the aggressor because it was Palestine before Israel.
tim pool
Jason Dixon says Tim is correct about the Miranda warning.
I'm a cop.
phil labonte
There you go.
unidentified
There you go.
tim pool
That's right.
Well, we had a cop on the show who was saying that.
He was like, you don't Mirandize people, you're not investigating.
You watch them do it.
What do you mean?
You don't need to ask them any questions.
Be like, I saw you do it.
libby emmons
Yeah, there's conflicting information online.
Some says that as soon as you're arrested, you get Mirandized, and others say only if they're going to be questioning you.
tim pool
Only if they're going to be questioning you.
If there's an investigation to be in.
So again, it's really funny to watch these leftists in the streets screaming, I've not been read my rights, and the cops are just laughing.
They're like, these people are nuts.
libby emmons
Because we're not going to read them to you.
tim pool
Yeah, dude.
It's like, dude, I watched you throw the rock.
What are you talking about?
The Y-Wing says, plot twist, the Daily Wire drops the Snow White movie on the same day as Disney's since that movie is going to bomb.
It is.
I mean, how insane would it be if the Daily Wire got their Snow White in theaters the same time as Disney's?
Because the name Snow White's clearly public domain, right?
libby emmons
At this point, it's got to be 100 years.
I don't think it's been 100 years yet.
tim pool
I don't think Disney owned the concept of Snow White.
libby emmons
Yeah, they can't, right?
Because it was a Grimm.
phil labonte
No, because of the Brothers Grimm, yeah.
libby emmons
Right.
tim pool
So it's public domain.
That's why they made it.
libby emmons
Interesting, yeah.
tim pool
So they could release this the same day.
It would hurt their own market share, but it would brutally just demolish Disney's.
That'd be hilarious.
phil labonte
Yeah, I don't know if...
tim pool
I mean, aren't both slated for 2025?
libby emmons
But I don't think they finished it.
tim pool
I have no idea.
Has there been any updates on this?
libby emmons
No.
tim pool
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amber athey
Yeah, I'm on X and Instagram at AmberMarieDuke.
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libby emmons
You can...
I'm tired.
unidentified
Sorry, guys.
phil labonte
Come on, come on, come on.
libby emmons
I'm Libby Evans on...
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Thanks.
phil labonte
Libby washed her hair today, too.
libby emmons
I did.
Yeah, only because you guys called me last minute to see if I could come on by.
phil labonte
Thanks for coming in and saving the day.
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tim pool
Before we go, we have one more Super Chat from Lurch685 who says, Week 3 of Tim skipping all my Super Chats.
unidentified
Woo!
tim pool
Not that one, buddy!
Thanks for hanging out.
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