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Nov. 9, 2024 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool

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FEMA Ordered NOT To Help Trump Supporters After Hurricane Milton w/Matt Walsh | Timcast IRL

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tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		A FEMA official ordered relief workers to skip houses that were advocating for Donald Trump.
		This is taxpayer dollars and Hurricane Milton relief for people in a largely Republican area, largely Trump-supporting area, were not getting the aid they need.
		Because officials said, do not help Trump supporters.
		I mean, that is just massive.
		And it's kind of crazy when you hear about this sooner, but we're hearing about it now.
		And the response from a lot of people is, Donald Trump, whatever his mandate was, he needs to take extremely seriously.
		And we're going to need real accountability because we got to get to the bottom of things like this.
		We'll talk about that.
		Plus, special counsel Jack Smith is dropping the charges.
		And being ordered to preserve his records.
		So let's talk about what this means, what accountability is.
		We'll get into all that stuff.
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		Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Matt Walsh.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		Great to be here.
		It's strange to be here doing your show and I could just walk next door from my office.
		Usually I have to hike on horseback through the mountains for 14 hours to get to your studio, so this is kind of nice.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There's something about making people work for it.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I can see that.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		I did miss the Pappy's, didn't I? You missed the Pappy's.
unidentified		Yeah, man.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		You guys drank that whole bottle.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I polished it off.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think a lot had like a quarter of the bottle.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		We were celebrating.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		How dare you?
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Good reason to.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		You should have been here.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		Well, I was good.
		You told me on Tuesday morning about the Pappies and I wanted to come over from the backstage show.
		They wouldn't let me leave.
		I was like chained to the freaking chair.
		They wouldn't let me leave.
		Wow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh man, Daily Wire, old slave drivers over there.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we have the Daily Wire expose going on here.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		I mean, the stories I could tell.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Ah, yes, yes.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		If only we weren't here.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If only.
		Well, it's going to be fun, man.
		Thanks for hanging out.
		Seamus is hanging out.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I'm Seamus Coughlin of Freedom Tunes.
		We just released a video today that people are loving.
		It's called We Are So Back.
		I think you guys are going to enjoy that.
		It's a lot of fun.
		Actually, I was scrambling to get it finished because Tim and I came up with a pretty funny ending.
		Maybe like...
		An hour, two hours before it was supposed to go up, and I had to slap it together really quickly, but I think it turned out really, really well.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's worth it, because whenever these things happen, Shamans and I are just, like, giggling back and forth and laughing at these ideas.
		And it's so worth it.
		The ending, the secret ending is so worth it.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		It's so worth it.
		You gotta stay through.
		It's like, I like to consider it a cinematic universe.
		We have, like, our Marvel Avengers ending after the credits, where you...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I really do think you have to make like a three-minute short film combining all of the cartoons.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		All of the innings.
		What we did last year for Christmas, we did like an 11-minute long cartoon where journalists reviewing the J6 tapes find that Santa was writing in the Capitol.
		And that was our Christmas special.
		It's really good.
		I would recommend everybody check that one out around the holidays.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Elad's hanging out.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Hey, everybody.
		What's up?
		My name is Elad Eliyahu.
		I'm a journalist here at TimCast.
		Excited to get into the news today.
		Phil, what's up?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Hello, everybody.
		My name is Phil Labonte.
		I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band, All That Remains, and I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.
		So let's go.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Here's the story from the Daily Wire exclusive.
		FEMA official ordered relief workers to skip houses with Trump signs.
		Whistleblower.
		It's almost unbelievable to think that somebody in the federal government would think that's okay.
		Now, this is crazy.
		A federal disaster relief official ordered workers to bypass the homes of Trump supporters as they surveyed damage caused by Hurricane Milton in Florida, according to internal correspondence obtained by the Daily Wire and confirmed by multiple federal employees.
		A FEMA supervisor told workers in a message to avoid homes advertising Trump as they canvassed Lake Placid, Florida, to identify residents who could qualify for federal aid.
		Internal messages viewed by the Daily Wire reveal the supervisor...
		Marnie Washington relayed this message both verbally and in a group chat used by the relief team.
		Multiple government employees told the Daily Wire.
		The government employees told the Daily Wire that at least 20 homes with Trump signs or flags were skipped from the end of October and into November due to the guidance, meaning they were not given the opportunity to qualify for FEMA assistance.
		Images shared with the Daily Wire show that houses were skipped over by the workers who wrote in the government system message such as, Trump sign no entry per leadership.
		Take a look at this.
		It says, implement best practices, avoid Holmes advertising Trump.
		And apparently this is this is going down only a few days before the election.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I wonder if they're going to come up with some kind of rationalization.
		Like, people with Trump signs outside their homes are more likely to be unfriendly and own firearms, and we're afraid of them.
		But regardless...
		Whenever there's any kind of investigation, or if these people are punished as they should be, we're going to be told it's a political prosecution, that we live in some kind of banana republic.
		Completely don't care.
		Bro, do you think I care?
		Do you think I'm saying it?
		Because I'm like, we can't do this!
		I don't want the liberals to be upset about our justice system!
		They're upset anytime anyone's punished.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Already, our good friends the Krasensteins...
		Are taking that statement from Trump's lawyer where he says if Leticia James keeps violating Trump's rights with lawfare, they will put her in jail.
		And then he tweets, oh my god, oh heavens, this is fascism.
		They warned us about it.
		It's happening.
		And all the liberals are like, we knew it, we knew it.
		And it's just laughable.
		Because anybody, you know they're liars.
		They know they're liars.
		They know, we know they're liars.
unidentified		That's right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The charges against Donald Trump have no underlying crime and literally make no sense.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And they should be investigated by the DOJ, but now liberals are acting like that's Trump being a fascist.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but in this case, first of all, this violates like a dozen laws to withhold federal aid from people based on their politics.
		That's so illegal.
		It's illegal on so many different levels that obviously, and I know that FEMA has said, I think in their statement, they said that they've identified the person, and they didn't even quite say they fired them.
		They said that they're no longer in that position or something.
		But that's not enough, obviously.
		We need a prosecution.
		The thing about this, when you see...
		Jail, obviously.
		And when you see the story, it's like, they're so flagrant.
		Like, if I had...
		I've seen this headline, and it wasn't from the Daily Wire.
		I don't know if I would believe it at first, and not because I doubt that the federal government would do this.
		It's only because it's so on the nose, and it's so blatant.
		And then, of course, it's from the Daily Wire, so I'm like, well, of course, I know that Daily Wire is trustworthy, and it's been confirmed by FEMA. But it is shocking.
		Again, not that they did it, but that they put it in writing.
		That they would just write that down and say, yep, skip the Trump houses, because they think they could just do whatever they want, and there will be no accountability at all.
		So just think about that.
		You have to keep in mind, these are federal workers under Biden's administration, assuming also, all of these workers were assuming...
		That Kamala would win.
		And so they thought, there's just no way this will ever come out.
		And so we can do whatever the hell we want.
		And we can tell people we're doing it and put it in writing.
		It's so flagrant and blatant.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Real quick, once they would skip it, they would write down in their surveys, not able to access property.
unidentified		Wow.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That's crazy.
		Just deny it.
		Obviously, none of us here are surprised.
		Obviously, this is something that is honest.
		It's standard.
		It's something that is expected ever since Lois Lerner and the IRS scandal, which is over 10 years ago now.
		I don't know actually exactly when it was happening, but Barack Obama was president.
		I think it was around 2012-13 or something like that when it was going on.
		But this is just the norm.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		The idea that there's not political persecution, there's not bias from Washington, D.C. Washington, D.C. was 95% for Kamala Harris.
		95%.
		That is not representative of the United States.
		That is representative of a uniparty.
		And when you say uniparty, people look at you as if you're some kind of...
		You're some kind of extremist or some kind of crazy person.
		It is purely ideological in DC and the entire town needs to be gutted.
		Everybody needs to lose their job.
		I'm completely fine with shutting the whole government down and restructuring it all.
		Maybe you get 25% of what's there actually.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		The VEC wanted to fire, I think, half the federal government.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Wouldn't it be wonderful?
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		Which is a great start.
		This also, by the way, this story really sheds light on...
		We know what happened in Florida.
		Well, we also know what happened in North Carolina.
		to us peons and peasants.
		It seemed as though the federal government just abandoned these people, many of them in the redder parts of, you know, Asheville's very liberal, but the surrounding county's very red part of North Carolina.
		And it seemed like from the outside that they were just being abandoned to drown.
		And you had to wonder if that was politically motivated.
		Of course, the media said, well, how dare you even suggest such a thing?
		And now we see this, and now I have to wonder, you know, is there some directive from some FEMA official somewhere saying, Yeah, leave North Carolina alone.
		They'll be fine.
		They're Trump supporters.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it wouldn't shock me.
		This is how the left has operated historically.
		You look at the whole of the more and the entire argument was there just happened to be this famine in Ukraine.
		And even though they were exporting grain while everyone there was starving to death, this was not politically targeted.
		We weren't trying to kill our political enemies.
		What the left basically always does is they deprive basic necessities that they've been in charge of or placed in charge of giving to people from them.
		And it's always a coincidence.
		There's always some reason that it just happens to be the case that their political enemies are being punished.
		Matt, you made a point earlier where you said if you didn't read this from the Daily Wire, you wouldn't have believed it at first.
		And this is a massive messaging problem for the right, because as you pointed out, Phil, people are afraid of being called crazy.
		The left has done such a good job poisoning the well against...
		Bluntly describing the things that they're doing.
		And when you go to people and you just describe things that left-wing politicians and pundits have said, as well as the actual party platform of the Democratic Party, people will regard you like a crazy person.
		I mean, Kamala Harris literally said she wanted to fund sex change operations for illegal aliens.
		And I understand why people hear that and they don't want to believe it because that sounds like something that the Simpsons would put in a Fox News headline in an episode they made 10 years ago.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		This is, to your point, that's exactly right.
		The left will hear this story, and they will say, oh, this is not that big of a deal.
		You know, that was one person, and they'll minimize it as much as they can, even though this is one step away from literally not helping people in the middle of an emergency.
		It's like they're not going to houses to offer aid.
		It's one step away from saying, don't go to that house while it's actually raining and while the floodwaters are going up.
		It's one step away from that.
		And that is one step away from things like the Hall of Demore.
		It's the same impulse.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		Keep in mind, just to go back to the point about how flagrant this is, which again is the only thing that makes it That gives you pause at first.
		They're that blatant about it?
		So the fact that that blatant tells you something about the culture in FEMA, which is not a surprise.
		But if you have one official who's willing, again, to put this in writing, not just that they set it off the record in some meeting, but they put it in writing, then that tells you something about the culture there.
		It tells you that this official felt...
		Obviously, if FEMA is filled with people like us, by that I mean just like normal common sense people, even if you are a far left FEMA official, you wouldn't put that in writing because you'd be worried about this exact thing happening.
		So they obviously are in an environment where they know they're around like-minded people.
		I think we can assume that there's a lot of this kind of thing going on.
		And so to them, it was no big deal to put it in writing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		General Flynn said this morning on the Culture War podcast that we all dodged a bullet with this election.
		And then you see a story like this, and I want to stress, In a situation like a hurricane, where people are in need of disaster relief, this aid could be life and death.
		In this area in Florida, I expect there's probably a lot of elderly who are in desperate need.
		This is, as Phil was saying, one degree away, but this is...
		This is them saying they're okay with you dying in a disaster.
		They will not provide you the relief that you deserve as a citizen of this country as a taxpayer because they don't like your worldview.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
		And there's never going to be any accountability for this, and there certainly won't be any accountability for eroding trust in American institutions.
		The fact that this is true should and will do more damage to American trust in federal agencies than a million January 6th could have.
		You get my point.
		A figure will come along and point out the lies and hypocrisy of the media and of the ruling class, and it's always made out to seem as if this person just pulled it out of nowhere and they hypnotized everybody.
		Everyone loved the media, and then Donald Trump came along, and he convinced people not to like them anymore.
		People loved the government, but then people like Ron Paul came along and started convincing them not to.
		I mean, the reality is the federal government hates us as people.
		They hate our way of life.
		They detest normal people, and they don't care when you die.
		And they're in charge of ensuring you live.
		And by the way, the federal government spends, what, between $15 and $19 billion?
		I believe it's closer to $19 billion every single day.
		They're capable of providing basic disaster relief.
		When they weren't doing that, I think it should have been apparent enough that it was intentional.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I think this is very obviously extremely disgusting.
		What stands out to me is this is FEMA, the organization is FEMA, and they're supposed to, like, you join FEMA because you want to help people and you want to help others.
		And to think that you'll just pass over people during a hurricane or what have you during a natural disaster like this is so disgusting.
		It's so outrageous that even the workers, in a quote here from the Daily Wire article, by the way, the guy who broke this story, Leif Lamahu, Did a great job here.
		But the worker said, I thought we could go help and make a difference.
		When we got there, we were told to discriminate against people.
		It's almost unbelievable to think that somebody in the federal government would think that's okay.
		I'm glad there's at least somebody in FEMA who saw what was going on and thinking, what the hell are we doing?
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't know if you guys saw the, I mean, if you guys covered the video a few weeks ago of the, I don't think it was FEMA, but they were federal disaster workers who were working on moving some logs from one part of the yard to the other part of the yard.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		It's like a dozen people, one guy handing a log to another guy over the course of like 15 feet.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		A human chain, 20 people moving a 10-pound log 20 feet.
		But this is what happens.
		You've got these federal agencies that are full of people, most of whom have really nothing to do.
		There's too many of them.
		They're just always justifying their jobs.
		And they're also blatantly politically partisan.
		So it's no surprise when this happens.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		There's hope.
		I mean, thank God that Trump got elected.
		And if we're lucky, then Elon Musk will actually be put in a position to do real cuts on the government.
		I mean, everyone knows he walked into Twitter and cut the personnel by like 80% or something like that.
		And there were a couple bumps and hiccups while they were getting used to having the new structure.
		But now it works the same.
		It's perfectly fine.
		So hopefully, if we're lucky, he will get into a position to be able to actually do something.
		And there won't be too much obstructionism from Congress or whatever.
		Because I know that there are a lot of positions that take an act of Congress to actually get rid of.
		But there's a lot you can do with the purse strings.
		And by cutting funding and by telling from the executive saying, don't do this.
		Your priority isn't this.
		That's what Obama did for a lot of things.
		He would say, I think it was the dreamer.
		No, I'm not sure if it was dreamers.
		But there was some policy that Barack Obama said, don't worry about enforcing this.
		Do these other things.
		These are the priorities.
		This act of Congress, we're not going to worry about.
		And if Obama can do it, then President Trump can do it as well.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		Well, every president's...
		This is one of the dirty little secrets about Trump as they were trying to paint him to be Hitler.
		And one of the reasons why that narrative never caught on is that not only was he not a fascist dictator, but he was probably the most restrained president we've had in like a century.
		And he was very reluctant to wield executive power, I think almost to a fault.
		I mean, if there was one great flaw in the first Trump administration, it's not that he was...
		This fascist dictator who was drunk on his own power, but he was actually a little bit too, in my estimation, too hesitant to wield power.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		He wanted to be liked too much.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		He issued fewer executive orders than the three most recent presidents before him.
		And I understand that.
		We don't like executive orders generally.
		You don't want to have to govern that way.
		But it is going to require that.
		If you actually want to drain the swamp, you're going to have to go in and wield executive power legally, but you're going to have to do it.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, I think one of the great lessons we can draw from this story and one of the kind of great shifts in ethos that Trump has represented in the Republican Party, if not something he's outright delivered on national political scale, is historically Republicans have seen government actors and the left in particular as good people who are misguided.
		They've seen the government as inefficient but not necessarily malicious.
		And I think Trump actually represents a kind of conservatism where people are willing to recognize this is malicious.
		They are trying to kill people.
		They are incredibly callous with respect to their concern for the lives of people they consider to be politically inconvenient.
		It's good to see the American people finally starting to wake up to this.
		I think the fact that Trump was elected is a great sign that people still recognize this, and it's a winning strategy for Republicans to point that out and be clear about that instead of saying, I think my opponent is a good and decent man.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's jump to the story from CNN. DOJ announces charges in Iranian plot to kill Donald Trump.
		The Justice Department on Friday announced federal charges in a thwarted Iranian plot to kill Trump before the election.
		According to court documents, Iranian officials asked Farhad Shaqari 51 in September to focus on surveilling and ultimately assassinating Trump.
		Shaqari is still at large in Iran, the DOJ says.
		It's a newly disclosed plot and marks yet another alleged attempt on Trump's life by the Iranian regime.
		Prosecutors allege Shaqiri, who participated in recorded conversations with law enforcement, was originally tasked by Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps to carrying out other assassinations against U.S. and Israeli citizens inside the U.S., but IRGC officials told Shaqiri on October 7th to focus only on Trump, court documents say.
		He's an Afghan national residing in Tehran, told investigators that if he was unable to do, unable to do, come up with a plan in the time frame, come on, copy it, guys, that they would wait until after the election.
		Now, this story seems a little bit absurd.
		I mean, the guy's in Iran.
		I don't know.
		What is it?
		They're charging a guy who they'll never get access to.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Soleimani was in Iran.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		They dropped a bomb on him.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Soleimani was in Iraq.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		There's somebody who's leading an active war against you and then criminally charging a guy who's in another country.
		But I do get it.
		The reason why I think this story is interesting is that there have been a lot of people who have come out and said, seems a little...
		I don't know, calm.
		Donald Trump wins.
		There's no big shadow campaign.
		It's just 1.30 a.m.
		They say everything's okay.
		Now, there's a lot of speculation from people that have been popping up in this podcast that they fear there may be an attempt on Donald Trump's life before he is actually inaugurated.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		It's a certainty they will continue with the attempts, but...
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and you have to wonder, the Iranians wanted to kill Donald Trump.
		Why is it that the bad guys all want to kill Donald Trump?
		I think it tells you something good about his leadership style.
		Look, this is unfortunately going to be an anxiety that we all have for the next four years, because we know that the Secret Service was not...
		At the very least, they were not up to the task of protecting him the first time around.
		And, you know, I don't think when you're president, you can hire your own personal security, your own private security on top of Secret Service, as far as I know.
		So he's going to kind of be at their mercy.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I want to give a big picture, a little quick talk about what's going on here and why all of this is going down.
		Donald Trump was responsible for the assassination of Qasem Soleimani, who was the leader of the IRGC, generally thought to be number two in Iran.
		And The IRGC and Islamic Guard and Islamic Republic in Iran has had it out for Donald Trump and his associates since then, including John Bolton and Mike Pompeo, including other Iranian activists in the United States.
		They've been trying to target Donald Trump and many of his national security advisors and peers who worked in the administration As far as I see this, I think anybody who's plotting to kill the President of the United States or President-elect of the United States should be on borrowed time as far as the American military and intelligence agencies should go.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, I hope they protect Donald Trump.
		And I'm kind of concerned, you know, I brought this up to somebody, we were talking earlier, and I said, what if something does happen to Donald Trump?
		Well, we looked it up this morning.
		The 20th Amendment says that if before the president's first term, the president-elect can make the first term, if they die for any reason, then the vice president-elect will become the president.
		And then I was talking to someone, they said, yeah, but Trump and J.D. will be on a plane or something, who knows?
		And I'm like, okay, maybe they shouldn't be in the same room together.
		January 20th, they can come together, we get them inaugurated, but I mean this not in any way lightheartedly.
		I am deeply concerned with the lives of Donald Trump and J.D. Vance and all of our politicians, even the ones I'm not quite fond of, because...
		I hope this is not a calm before the storm, and right now, more than ever, we need serious protection for our political leaders.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		I will say, one of the reasons for the calm that you're talking about, and we haven't seen, a lot of us were expecting if Trump won, we'd have rioting and that sort of thing.
		It'd be, you know...
		The 2020 riots all over again.
		I think one of the reasons we're not saying that is that it was just such an overwhelming victory.
		I think it's totally crushed the morale and spirit of his opponents.
		And I'm sure they'll rally together at some point and get their energy back up.
		But right now, I think it's just totally shell-shocked.
		The other thing, too, is that...
		One of the many reasons why some of us were quite happy with the J.D. Vance pick is that not only is he a really impressive guy in his own right, but frankly, as many of us were saying, he needs to pick a VP candidate who gives him assassination insurance so that...
		Before someone could think about making an attempt on his life, they're going to have to think, they're going to also have to consider the fact, okay, well, if we take him out, then we're stuck with this guy.
		And is that really going to be better for us?
		And the answer is with J.D. Vance.
		Now, if you put some establishment shill in there, somebody like that, then I think that really does put Trump in an even more precarious position.
		So it still is, but, you know...
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I think it's an interesting conversation to have, because if you're the Iranians, I'm sure you prefer J.D. Vance, who is known to be more of an isolationist than Donald Trump was.
		Not that...
		I'm sure J.D. Vance would declare war in Iran if they did assassinate Donald Trump, but I think the Iranians would be more scared of pulling anything on Donald Trump if Nikki Haley were the VP, because they know exactly what she wants to do with them.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I want to say this.
		We had two libertarians on this show.
		We had Clint Russell and Josie the Redhead Libertarian, who both agreed when I said, if Iran...
		We're to take the life of Donald Trump.
		We have no choice but to declare war on them.
		Would you agree?
		You would agree.
		Absolutely right.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		If they kill your president.
unidentified		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, you don't have a country if you let foreign enemy nations kill your president.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		But what's the question if they are trying and making an effort to how should we react?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And that's still a really great question because there's got to be some action.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I'm skeptical of literally everything we hear from our foreign policy establishment.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I do believe we should also take a grain of salt with all of these reports.
		You know, this could obviously spark tensions and we've been misled by the media.
		I do believe Iran is a serious threat, but we should still be hyper-cognizant of the reports coming out.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		And obviously we have to take threats like this very seriously.
		And yes, I mean, God forbid if a foreign adversary kills your president.
		I'm as isolationist as they come, but there are reasons to go to war.
		That would be one of them.
		But I'm more worried about, I mean, as big a concern as that is, I'm more worried about Yeah.
		among our citizens against trump now we know that trump just wanted an overwhelming victory so most americans voted for him and are in favor of him but look the media has been saying for eight years now and they're only going to ramp it up that this guy is adolf hitler and the thing is as many people pointed out when you when you call somebody hitler when you say that he's a fascist dictator and he's hitler and he wants to destroy democracy you are actually directly calling for his assassination
		You might not be saying it because you can't say it, but if Hitler was actually alive today, we would all agree that you're justified in taking out Hitler.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		It's a wink and a nod, right?
		Oh, he's Hitler.
		You know what to do.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And I put it this way, there is a thought experiment about traveling back in time and killing the baby Hitler.
		And the question is, it's a philosophical and moral question about taking the life of a baby who has done nothing wrong, but you know his future and what he becomes.
		The point is...
		You could be an 18-year-old in college and they're asking you about whether it's morally right or wrong or what are the morals of taking the life of a baby.
		And I get it.
		It's baby Hitler.
		But they're saying that there is an element of the population that is okay with taking the life of Hitler.
		Then they call Trump Hitler.
		That's exactly what they're trying to do.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		And this isn't even...
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		I guess there's an interesting philosophical debate about whether it's okay to kill baby Hitler, but everybody agrees about adult Hitler.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's okay to kill adult Hitler.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think what Seamus and Matt don't understand is that these planned parent activists are from the future, and they're coming back in time.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I really want to make this point.
		What I was going to say is they don't need the baby to be Hitler to want to kill them.
		But I just want to make this extra point.
		This ties into the Daily Wire.
		A few years ago at the March for Life, there was a controversy because Ben Shapiro brought up the Baby Hitler philosophical question.
		He's like, well, the answer is you don't kill Baby Hitler.
		Who is Baby Hitler?
		Who is Baby?
		And a toothpaste brand that was sponsoring the video pulled their sponsorship from that, which means a toothpaste company has an official stance on the philosophical question of whether you killed Baby Hitler.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Do you abort Baby Hitler?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Matt, you're...
		This goes back to the previous story as well.
		If FEMA isn't doing things for Trump supporters, and we've seen two attempts on President Trump's life.
		One was clearly because the Secret Service wasn't doing their job.
		This speaks to the fact that it's likely that that will happen in the future, at least leading up until Trump can get into office and hopefully clear some people out of the Secret Service and get competent people in, or people that aren't ideologically possessed.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		And because the fact is that on the left, and this is not true of every single person who identifies themselves as on the left, but...
		On the sort of radical, far political left, they really truly believe that if you are their political enemy, then you don't deserve to live.
		Your life is not worth living.
		They honest to God believe that.
		And that's what they believe about Trump.
		That's what they believe about...
		I mean, I made a joke about Project 2025 on Twitter.
		Which I sometimes do.
		We do a little trolling, folks.
		And I get all the...
		We're used to it on the internet.
		But all these comments are people saying, I'm going to find you and kill you.
		I want you to die.
		I'm going to find you.
		You deserve to be tortured and killed.
		I want to do it myself.
		It's like someone said something like that.
		And it's just...
		It's normal.
		We're used to that, but we should actually be used to that.
		That shouldn't be a normal response to someone that you don't agree with making a joke.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I want to pull up this year's Google search because there's way too many stories to choose from.
		Here's from The Advocate.
		Project 2025 is real and coming, says Trumper Matt Walsh.
		MAGA says Project 2025 is the agenda, Matt Walsh.
		Rolling Stone Republicans celebrate by admitting they can't wait for Project 2025.
		Newsweek I'm sorry, what do we have?
		Mother Jones, after when Trump fans admit Project 2025 is the agenda, the independent MAGA allies say they can finally admit Project 2025.
		Axios, I mean, these are supposed to be serious news organizations, and they saw a joke from Matt Walsh and decided it is the biggest story, it's true, and run with it.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		And not only that, but I'm not even, I'm not a Trump official.
		I'm not going to be in the cabinet.
		I would love to be in the cabinet.
		I mean, call me up, I'll take the job, whatever it is.
		But the fact that you can make an article over some podcaster who's just rambling and joking around is the most absurd thing about it.
		I mean, it's like...
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		And it's not just that you're not a Trump official, it's that you are somebody who has now made two documentaries where you're trolling people, and in your profile picture on Twitter, you are dressed as the character you troll people as, and somebody saw a tweet from you which was an obvious troll, and they took the bait and wrote articles about it.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it is amazing, but also on the left, they just lost their ability to detect irony.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They had the ability to detect irony?
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I assume at some point in the past they did.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I've got to be honest, they want to be victims.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, I don't think they do.
		I do think there's an element of the media that says, hey, I know he didn't mean it, he's joking, but we can run the story because you can't sue for defamation because everybody really said it.
		I genuinely believe...
		There's a natural filtration process happening over the past 10 years for people who lack the mental capacity to understand humor and think beyond one dimension.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Well, that'll happen.
		I will sometimes have people try to fact-check my cartoons.
		It's like, okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		Can we see the tweet?
		I tweeted that Kamala Harris was Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini combined, and she was going to send Trumpers to camps and start 800 new wars.
		And a bunch of articles got written being like, Tim Pool thinks Kamala Harris is going to be like, I was literally satiring you!
		But their brains are just made of jello.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		Some of it is internet, too.
		It's not all on the left.
		Some of it is on the internet.
		It's a thing where people...
		They just pretend they've never heard of the concept of hyperbole.
		Comedic hyperbole is a really common...
		Device that people use in their everyday lives.
		Even something like, I'm starving.
		It's like, no one thinks that you're actually claiming that you're starving to death.
		You're just saying that you're really hungry.
		And this happens to me all the time.
		I'll say something like, you know, whatever.
		People who drink raw milk should go to jail or something like that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The anime one's funny.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		And then you have a three-day outrage cycle.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		People on the right, too, pretending that they don't understand that you're intentionally exaggerating just to be funny.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		One of my favorites was J.D. Vance was talking in some interview and he said, look, you know, my two sons eat like a dozen eggs a day, right?
		And so when you're a family and you're going to the grocery store and then some journalists wrote...
		There is no way that J.D. Vance's children are eating like 144 eggs per week.
		That's ridiculous.
		And then he was just like, are you kidding me?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		It's like fact check.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm so hungry I could eat a horse.
		Fact check.
		He did not in fact want to eat a horse.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		It's like fact check.
		J.D. Vance's children do not get taller every time their grandmother sees them.
		People say things sometimes.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		Well, technically they do get taller each time.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		That's true, actually, but probably not notably.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Missing context, while it is true that they technically get taller, it would not be possible to notice.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think the media industry attracts low IQ people.
		Having worked in some of these offices in New York and in the corporate press, I would find that only a small handful of the people who worked there actually had 100 or above IQs.
		And I know this because I actually physically administered the test.
		No, I have no idea.
		I met so many of these young people who are just like, when you talk to them, it was as if it was a phone dial tone.
		It was just, they're staring at you.
		You know, there's this thing for some of these people where they're looking at you, but they're looking through you.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like, you can tell, like, your eyes are not focused on me.
		And I'm like, is there anything in there?
		Is anybody home?
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		And they're the worst kinds of dumb people.
		Well, I think this is kind of the definition of a midwit, where they're not...
		They're above room temperature in their IQ, but they're definitely not smart, but they think they're smart.
		So they're pretty dumb, but they think they're really smart.
		And that's all the media.
		I mean, there's been all this conversation in the media after the election about how Trump's voters are uneducated because they didn't go to college.
		And so you get all these pompous people with college degrees saying, well, you guys aren't educated.
		You're not as smart as me.
		And of course, it's like...
		And this is part of it.
		You can be a very dumb person these days and have not just a college degree, but have a PhD.
		That's true.
		You could have gone to 10 years of post-high school education and actually be barely above 100 with your IQ. And so that's one of the reasons why these people are so confident of their own intelligence, I think.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		And then, I mean, even the ones who get advanced degrees in fields that have traditionally been considered impressive will tell you that men can get pregnant.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it doesn't mean anything.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's the funny thing, yeah.
		So, following the election, the metric comes out that the blue states are all college-educated and the red states tend to not be college-educated.
		And then you get these...
		It's fascinating to me.
		I love this because these liberals will respond to political positions I have with Tim never graduated high school.
		And then they're like, oh, like for liberals, like, well, that settles it.
		Tim didn't get a high school degree, therefore nothing he says has any merit.
		That is indicative of impaired brain function.
		And they view this world through, have you been approved by the establishment as acceptable?
		Like, it's a form of credentialism.
		You have to have state-sanctioned confirmation of thought.
		And that's your degree, that's your diploma, and that proves you are capable regardless of your positions.
		So when it comes to this podcasting thing, especially where they say, I love this, the article yesterday, or two days ago from Wired, where it said, The Manosphere won.
		The left needs, it's like the left doesn't even have a Steven Crowder, Ben Shapiro, or so help us a Tim Pool.
		And it's funny because, just like with Joe Rogan, they did.
		Many of these former liberals are now sitting here voting for Donald Trump.
		But these people's position is you are smart and acceptable if you march with us in lockstep, no matter what we say.
		And I'm like, my guys, when you said we need a Joe Rogan, why don't Democrats have a Joe Rogan?
		The response from people was you did.
		His name was Joe Rogan.
		The issue is the Democrats were crapping on the floor in front of everybody and telling us we had to accept it.
		And when we said, please don't make this what the Democrats represent, they said you're far right.
		You're a conservative.
		And I said, I guess I am now, because I'm not okay with taking a dump on the floor.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		The thing about the Joe Rogan thing, too, is really funny to me, because they don't understand at all.
		This is why they'll never have their own Joe Rogan, is they just don't understand at all why he's popular or how he got to the place that he is.
		And he didn't get there by being known as this Republican guy who's making Republican points.
		Like many people, I started listening to Joe Rogan, certainly at first, because he'd have on whatever, like archaeologists, and they would talk about that for three and a half hours.
		It's the stuff that had nothing to do with politics that made him super popular.
		And then from there, he started getting in a little bit more to politics, but even now, not all that much.
		Yeah.
		And this is the problem.
		So on the left, if they tried to do their own Joe Rogan, it would just be some leftist droning on about leftist policy for three and a half hours.
		That's just not a Democrat answer to Joe Rogan.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And the issue is the amorphous nature of what is acceptable on the left.
		So, I can sit here and be like, here are my beliefs, here are my values, here's what I want, here's what I don't want.
		And they will stay true, for the most part, until someone presents me with a good argument, and we'll have the discussion and the debate, and I might say, you know what, I'll consider it.
		That's interesting.
		The left is just like, well, today, wimmickson is the new word, and then the next day they're like, actually, it's offensive because it's exclusionary, and they go, okay, now we're not going to say wimmickson, now it's women with a Y. You can't be a Joe Rogan.
		Because you'd have to have a list of all the things you can or can't say updated every day by the Democratic Party.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		That's exactly right.
		And also, it seems really insulting to a lot of their media personalities to say this, right?
		Like, we don't have our own Steven Crowder.
		What about Jimmy Kimmel and Stephen Colbert?
		Like, just because they're not good doesn't mean they're not your attempt.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's what they're saying, though.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		What they're saying is they don't have the influence.
		Well, they don't have the influence.
		And the reason they don't have the influence is because they're woke scolds.
		They're telling people what they must say, what they must think.
		And as soon as you do something interesting, like have an opposing view or anything like that, anything approaching an opposing view, they excommunicate you.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		This is what I talk about all the time on the left, that they are now making the mistake, especially when it comes to entertainment.
		You mentioned Jimmy Kimmel and Stephen Colbert are perfect examples of this.
		They are now making the mistake that for so long conservatives, and particularly Christian media and entertainment, made.
		Which is that the only thing that matters is the message.
		The whole thing is just the message.
		And so you'll have Jimmy Kimmel, who will get up and he'll give what's supposed to be a comedy monologue, but it's just 10 minutes of him crying because he lost the election.
		And it's just like, your job is to be funny.
		And so if you want to have influence, Jimmy Kimmel...
		You actually want to influence people towards your point of view, then you should come out and just be funny.
		And you sprinkle in the politics here and there.
		And it's the thing, the left for so long, they were very good at this.
		They were very good at influencing the culture, influencing people, because they were good comedians, they were good artists, they made good films, they made good shows.
		and they didn't lead with the message.
		They led with the story.
		They led with the joke, and they would sprinkle in the politics here and there.
		They'd make it a little bit subtle, so they were just kind of gradually moving you towards their values without you noticing it.
		And now it's kind of, and then you had the Christian answer, which was always just, well, we're going to do this movie, and the acting's terrible, the writing's terrible, everything's terrible, but it's a really good sermon, and they're talking about loving Jesus.
		Right.
		And now this interesting shift is happening where the left is making that mistake and the right is figuring out how to not really lead with the message, just be interesting, be funny.
		I mean, Joe Rogan is just an interesting guy.
		Sprinkles in the politics here and there.
		And that's how you have actual...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And they call them alt-right.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		No one is just on the right.
		As soon as you cross over that line, you're a Nazi.
		You're far right.
		There was a time when you used to have to be conservative to be considered far right.
		As long as you're a center-left liberal, you're far right.
		But I just want to make this point about culture.
		At Freedom Tunes, whenever we make these cartoons, if we have an idea that's going to make fun of a Republican, or if we have a funny plan, a conservative idea, we're not like, oh, we can't do that because we need to win.
unidentified		Yeah.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Like, you just...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You make fun of Trump all the time?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I make fun of Trump all the time.
		I literally had...
		I don't know if I can...
		Well, it happened in the video, but I had something happen to you in a video recently.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We also did a video a while ago where...
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I, like, make fun of you a lot.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Fauci...
		So, Seamus had a video where it's Fauci and Trump, and Fauci's testifying, and it starts with the Lord of the Rings scene where he was like, I was there the strength of...
		I was there the day the strength of Trump failed, and then Fauci's like, cast it into the fire, Trump destroys the coronavirus.
unidentified		Yeah, like...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then Trump is like...
		Well, I was gonna, but now that you've told me to, I won't do it.
		And it's like, it's making fun of Trump and Fauci and everybody just for fun.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Well, and even like we did, I remember a while ago just doing a silly video where it was like, um, college student like totally owns Ben Shapiro and it's like a college student that was like the pronouns or whatever.
		Yeah, yeah, exactly.
		It's like, it's okay and it's actually good to make fun of people on your own side.
		And it's good to even make fun of some of the ideas on your own side.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think we see all of this stuff And it shows it's, I don't know, it's communism, right?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You can't defy the party line.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And so what do we see in communist countries?
		You can't have jokes.
		Jokes, not allowed.
		You can't speak out in ways.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		It's worker and parasite.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is exactly what the left does.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If you come out and you make a joke, I mean, how many times have we seen some leftist personality make a joke and then they get attacked and they have to take their tweet down or take down their account or something like that or apologize?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Do you remember the Simpsons bit, Worker and Parasite?
		When Krusty has to get rid of Vichy and Scratchy, he's like, it's an Eastern European cartoon!
		It's Worker and Parasite, dude!
		Oh, man.
		Alright, well, I guess...
		Yeah, yeah, dude, that's like the perfect...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Wasn't it like they lost the rights to...
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's like it's a Soviet version.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		A cartoon called Worker and Parasite, yeah.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		It perfectly encapsulates this.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		It's not just...
		You gotta toe the party line.
		But it's not just that, well, you're not allowed to disagree with us.
		It's also that everything you do has to be about what we believe.
		So even if you do something and you say something that's apolitical, that's not taking anyone's side, they have a problem even with that.
		I mean, they do this with their celebrities now.
		This is the whole thing with Taylor Swift.
		It's like they get mad at Taylor Swift because you're not being political enough.
		Clearly, she's not a Trumper, but it's like, well, no, no, you have to agree with us, and you have to make everything about the fact that you agree with us.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		To your point, and I said this a couple days ago, the reason that everybody had the backlash against Bezos when he wrote the op-ed...
		When he said, we're not going to endorse.
		He didn't come out and endorse Donald Trump.
unidentified		Right.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		But it was as if he did.
		But the dissent cannot be tolerated.
		It is a unified message, consistent on all fronts, in every single way.
		If you step out of line, then not only do they say, oh, well, we disagree and we disavow that, they literally will excoriate you and cast you out as if you're...
		As if you're a heretic.
		And that doesn't make for a welcoming group of people that you want to hang out with.
		It doesn't make for good comedy.
		It doesn't make for good stories.
		It doesn't make for good anything at all.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think we should embrace the Project 2025 thing and just let them engage in their histrionics.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I think we should embrace Project 2025.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because...
		You know, General Flynn was saying this this morning.
		You don't have four years.
		You have 18 months.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The midterms come up, and then six months out, all of the squishy Republicans are terrified to do anything.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So it needs to happen now.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But I'll say this.
		These stories going viral and going nuts, regular people are going, huh?
		So let's do this.
		Let me jump to this story.
		I'm going to pull up this one from Postmillennial.
		Check this out.
		Morning Joe reveals he doesn't know the price of butter, realizes Trump won on the economy.
		Check out this clip from...
joe scarborough ▲ ● ▼		I want to talk about economy for a second.
		A few weeks ago, three weeks ago, somebody who was going to be voting for Kamala Harris came up to me and said, Oh my God, Trump's going to win.
		I go, why is that?
		He goes, I just...
		I went to the grocery store.
		Butter's over $3.
		I kind of laughed and I said...
		I said...
		Well, that's kind of reductive, isn't it?
		Said it to myself.
		To him, I smiled and I said, good point.
		But it actually, everything we're hearing after the election is...
unidentified		I'm just saying, the seven.
joe scarborough ▲ ● ▼		What's that?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The seven dollars.
joe scarborough ▲ ● ▼		What's that?
joe scarborough ▲ ● ▼		Butter is seven dollars?
unidentified		Yeah.
joe scarborough ▲ ● ▼		What, is it framed in gold?
joe scarborough ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, what kind of butter?
unidentified		I don't know where you go.
joe scarborough ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, yeah, okay.
		Anyway, my point is this, Willie.
		The rent is too damn high, and this guy was saying the cost of butter is way damn too high.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The funny thing about this, when he said that, what is it, framed in gold?
		It's exposing one of the big reasons why they lost.
		So, I don't think Project 2025 is going to move the needle with anybody.
		What we have right here is the Federal Reserve, St.
		Louis Fed, the average price of butter is $5.
		This is nationwide, $5.
		For a four-pack of butter.
unidentified		That's insane.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He says about $3.
		Micah says $7.
		And he goes, $7?
		What is it, framed in gold?
		Yes.
		That's exactly what your average middle-class, working-class guy thinks when he goes to the grocery store and he walks up and there's the unsalted butter that says $5.
		And he goes, what is it, framed in gold?
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They mock the working-class people on these shows.
unidentified		I do.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		I have to defend Joe Scarborough.
		I rarely do.
		I have to defend Joe Scarborough a little bit on this one.
		Because I will say, I probably shouldn't be admitting this, but I totally...
		I'm the same.
		Every time I... Because I don't do the grocery shopping.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		I don't do the grocery shopping.
		I never have.
		Our whole marriage.
		Even going back to when we first got married and we were broke as hell.
		So every time my wife goes grocery shopping, if I get a look at the receipt or if she mentions how much something costs, I'm like, that's not that much.
unidentified		What are you talking?
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		What is it?
		So some of that I think is a man...
		Maybe it's just me.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I just can't absorb the cost of groceries.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I go grocery shopping.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I look at the prices.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, dude, under Project 2025, wives do the grocery shopping.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		It's just how it is.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		I haven't done a full grocery shop for our family ever.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		My wife does it.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, my wife does the grocery shopping too.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I also oversee when we're ordering drinks and snacks and other things for the office.
		So I can see all the prices.
		I can see them going up.
		But...
		That statement, what is it framed in gold?
		Whether it's because he just has Micah.
		Isn't he married to Micah?
		I don't know, whatever.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he's married to the co-host.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So she's telling him for exactly the reason.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		That was his wife?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		That's hilarious.
		I was going to make that joke.
		I was literally going to make that joke.
		The woman on the panel is like, this is how much it costs.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Dear, I went to the grocery store with $7.
		Well, I think they're in New York, right?
		But the point is, when the Democrats are screeching about Project 2025, despite the fact it's just not happening and Matt made a joke about it, I say, yeah, let's encourage them to do that.
		Meanwhile, regular working people are going to be like, why is butter five bucks?
		Don't worry, we'll help you out there, buddy.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I remember...
		And you're right, people don't care about, obviously people don't care about Project 2025 because that was basically Akama's whole campaign and it failed.
		Now I can remember watching, you know, on Sundays watching football and especially in the last like three or four weeks before the election and it's just constant political ads.
		And a lot of Trump ads, you know, and obviously targeting men.
		It's NFL Sunday.
		And his ads were always...
		It was always hitting the economy, to your point, Tim.
		Also hitting the trans thing really hard.
		Trump would hit those in the ads on the football ads.
		Kamala...
		I remember one of the ads she played on NFL Sunday watching football.
		It was all about fear-mongering for Project 2025.
		And I'm watching that and I'm thinking, like, what man who's watching football is going to see this ad?
		It's like, oh, did you hear about Project 2025?
		That sounds scary.
		Like, nobody, even if you're on the left, you don't care about that.
		No idea how to message these people.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That was their primary concern as the last couple weeks of the campaign.
		They were like, oh my goodness, we're not getting men.
		Men are turning away from us.
		Why are they turning away?
		How do we message to them?
		And every attempt they made was as ham-fisted and ridiculous as you could possibly come up with.
		And so I don't think that they're going to be successful at messaging to men for a long time because they didn't learn anything.
		The whole thing is that...
		Their whole take is that men are bad.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		I saw this tweet from Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
		today in Weiss at Harper's Ferry.
		Lando Lakes is $6.50.
		I just pulled up the website for our local grocery store.
		Lando Lakes is $7.49.
		Wow.
		For four sticks of butter.
		Well, no, but framed in gold, right?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		To your point about the fact that a man watching football isn't going to go Project 2025.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I mean, pretty much every Democratic voter over the age of 35 I've ever spoken to, except for a small handful of Tim Walls-esque exceptions, aren't Democrats because they're like, oh, they're going to ban trash.
unidentified		We have to bring our glitter to the polling place.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		It's because they are worried.
		It's because they're worried about the prices of things.
		And historically, they've believed that the Democrats would support their union or deliver higher wages to them or raise taxes on whatever it is that they think can benefit them economically.
		But trying to pander to men with those kinds of social issues, especially in that direction, it's not going to work.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I think they kind of stumbled into the Project 2025 fear-mongering after their first few ideas didn't work out.
		They were trying to focus on democracy slash so-called democracy on January 6th.
		It wasn't resonating very hard.
		They tried to attack Trump as extremely pro-life.
		Trump dispelled that by coming out as relatively pro-choice as a Republican.
		And they were like, all right, well, what else can we attack him with?
		None of this crap is kind of sticking.
		Well, everything we hate about Republicans, Project 2025, you know, a match made in heaven.
		And it didn't resonate at all.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		It was always a really bad strategy in general.
		And this is another thing.
		Democrats, I used to at least give them credit.
		I mean, they're evil, but I used to think anyway that they're evil, but they're smart.
		And Republicans typically not as evil, but kind of dumb.
		That's the way it was for decades.
		So decades and decades, that's kind of the way it worked.
		And so Democrats are just like strategically running laps around Republicans, but they've gotten pretty dumb strategically in recent years.
		And Project 20, even leaving aside the ideology of and politics of it, it's just the messaging is really stupid because when you go out and you have a 30-second ad and you say, Project 2025...
		No one knows what the hell that is.
		And then you have to go look it up, and it's this whole long thing, and you've got to read through it.
		So it's just really bad messaging.
		You have to find...
		But that's the point, is that they couldn't go to the actual Project 2025 and find anything scary.
		If there was something scary in it, you wouldn't say Project 2025.
		You would just focus in on that one scary thing.
		But it wasn't in there, because...
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Whatever you hate about Republicans, just throw it.
		There you go.
		Project 2025.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I actually got a PDF of Project 2025 and was flipping through it just to see if it was as mundane as I'd expected.
		And it very much is.
		I mean, it's like, oh my goodness, these crazy radical Republicans want to alter the regulations surrounding Alaska's sovereignty with fishing and wildlife permitting.
		Come on.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Well, Sean, something you said.
		I don't know if the Democrats have been getting dumb on strategy.
		Well, they have been, but why have they been getting dumb on strategy?
		And I believe it's because they're beholden to their youth and communist base at the party now, where all the enthusiasm is.
		So they're struggling with their untenable party.
		It's just waiting to fracture, is how I kind of view this stuff.
		And they know that they have to, you know, talk about these fringe issues.
		You need to talk about trans rights, although it pulls horribly.
		And all these other things that are honestly...
		Where the enthusiasm in the Democratic Party comes from.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		That is the problem that they're having.
		But again, just if you're smart strategically.
		Like, I could have done a better job.
		Kamala could have hired me as a campaign director, and I would have done a better job of just selling these ideas than whatever morons they were working for.
		So their idea is Project 2025.
		Tim Wall, you know, you bring on Tim Walls, and you have him do the stupid...
		Football coach thing where they keep going back to this well.
		All right, huddle up, team.
		I'm going to give the football halftime speech.
		And it's just...
		It's so ham-fisted.
		It's like...
		It's like...
		It's like 1990s-era youth group leader type of stuff in their attempts to connect with people.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I'm not kidding you.
		I saw a tweet that went viral after the election where someone was saying the mistake the Democrats made is they failed to properly exploit Tim Walz because he's so relatable to young men, and this is why we lost young men as voters.
		The level of delusion is absolutely off the charts.
		Tim Walls is absolutely not somebody who any young man looks up to and wants to be like.
		And I'll just put it this way, man.
		When you're like, we have to put tampons in the boys' bathroom.
		You're not somebody who young men are like, this is a really cool guy.
		But on top of that, his gesturing.
		Right, right.
		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		When they put tampons in a high school boys' bathroom, the boys ripped the thing down and vandalized.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Do you remember that story?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		That was the high school I went to.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That was your high school?
unidentified		Yes.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That was Seamus.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yes, that was me when I was in high school.
		No, I'm kidding.
		But continue.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So it wasn't your high school?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		No, yeah, it was.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It was?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So Tim Walsh is known for wanting tampons in boys' bathrooms.
		At the same time, we know young men ridicule and reject that notion.
		And they thought this was going to attract young men to vote for Kamala Harris.
		It's absurd.
		And now you've got Andrew Yang going on CNN saying it was a mistake to not go on Joe Rogan's podcast.
		And Mike Cernovich, he responded to me saying, that's like saying it's a mistake for me not to drop it on Tim Pool's halfpipe.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'll put it this way.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		She can't do it.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		If you're actually someone who young men look up to as an influence or appears manly, the joke critics will make about you to kind of coalesce with their optics that you should be bad is they'll basically call you stupid, they'll call you a lunkhead.
		If there's anyone in the Democratic Party we could point to who's remotely masculine, I think you'd say Fetterman is a pretty masculine-seeming dude.
		Fetterman?
		I think more so than anyone else in the party.
		He's not super masculine.
		But I'm saying, as far as Democrats go...
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		He's not gay.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		And that's a fair way of putting it.
		But when you look at the way he's made fun of, as opposed to other Democrats, it's mostly like, this guy's dumb, this guy's a long cat.
		the reason Tim Walls was made fun of for seeming gay wasn't because he did it.
		The reason Republicans were able to coalesce around that meme and make fun of him on that basis wasn't because it wasn't resonating with young men.
		You get what I mean?
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		To follow up on Democrats on going or not going on Rogan's podcast, I think John Fetterman actually went on Rogan's podcast and performed pretty decently and was a relatable guy and was talking about his struggles with mental illness following his campaign run.
		and checking himself into Walter Reed for depression.
		And I think he came off as a relatable man.
unidentified		That's what I'm saying.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Come to think of it.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		He's not like a macho dude, but he just seems like a more regular guy.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		That's the thing.
		If you want to appear masculine and appeal to men, there are, I think, a few steps you have to follow.
		But the first step you have to get past is you have to be authentic.
		And leftists, again, don't understand this, because when they think about what we think of masculinity, they have this cartoon in their mind.
		And so with Tim Walls, they tried to imitate that cartoon.
		But in reality, if you're conservative and someone asks you, like, what...
		you know, what does it take to be a masculine man?
		None of us are going to say, well, you have to go hunting and you have to wear camo hats.
		We would say that's a version of masculinity.
		So there are those kinds of guys and that's cool.
		But, but you know, to, to be masculine, number one, authentic, number two, competent.
		If you're authentic and you are a competent person and you're a man and there, so you could be, uh, you could go hunting and you could be that kind of guy.
		You could be a really smart guy who reads a lot of books and can wax philosophical about things.
		That's also masculine.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You could be Jordan Peterson.
unidentified		Well, man, it's like, I'm the manliest guy around, and everyone knows it.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		No, it's true.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But he still inspires a lot of young men to get their act together to clean up.
unidentified		100%.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		That's exactly right.
		But they don't understand.
		They think that we have this super narrow, very specific idea of what it takes to be a masculine man, and what they don't understand is that we don't, and we never did, and we don't have that for femininity either.
		I mean, our point all along, not to take this in a different direction, but, you know, they are the ones saying that, okay, well, to be a man or woman is this thing.
		And so, actually, if you act a different way than, you know, if you're a man and you act a bit feminine, now you're actually a woman, it turns out.
		We're the ones saying that, no, you can be, you know, you could be, there are actually a lot of different ways to be masculine.
		Yeah.
		And they just don't, they don't listen.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Well, and even things like you said that wouldn't be traditionally considered masculine, like if you're really, really good at chess or something, you're just at the top of your field there.
		They're making cartoons or something.
		But you look at a guy like Tim Walls, and you're right, the competence is not exactly something he exudes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't mean to be disrespectful, but clowns are not typically considered masculine.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Unless there's a super ripped barbell 1920s clown.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I don't see them as feminine either, though.
		There's a weird thing going on there with clowns.
		You don't look at Tim Walls So I guess I shouldn't call Fetterman masculine.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what the right word is, but bouncing around on stage, shaking his arms.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		He's a bubbly guy.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't, but to your point, it doesn't exude competence at all.
		And that's the thing.
		Like, I like, I mean, you could be a guy, you could be a great chef.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		Very masculine.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		That's very true.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		And that's like feminine, right?
		Women cook, but almost all the top chefs in the world are men.
		And no one's like, oh, he's a cook?
		That's like so girly.
		But also, you know, with, it's almost like, Dude wipes as a phenomenon.
		Do you remember this?
		They're basically just baby wipes, but they put them in a package and called them dude wipes because they thought men would pay more for them, which is ironically one of the most effeminate things you could possibly do.
		I need to spend more money on a little treat for me that's going to make me feel more manly.
		Very embarrassing.
		Tim Walz kind of felt like that.
		We're just going to call him the dude wipes of political leaders, but maybe Tampon Tim has already started.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's jump to this story from the Post Millennial.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Malcolm Nance warns minorities will face Roundup under Trump be put in camps after America voted for dictatorship.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		We are blessed with law.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No one's ever accused this guy of being of sound mind.
		He tweets, let's get something straight.
		The American people voted to absolutely make sure loads of people would die at Trump's hands.
		Their daughters, their wives, children and their fellow citizens would die from school shootings, pregnancy and easily cured diseases.
		It's free hunting season for blacks with immunity for white cops.
		Muslims and Latinos will definitely die in mass deportation runs in camps.
		Gaza will be bulldozed, if not ethnically cleansed.
		Iranians who want democracy will die.
		Ukrainians are dying in droves already.
		This man is unwell.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it's got to be crack in that pipe.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The issue is...
		You know, I'll mention Alan Lichtman.
		The guy with the keys to the White House prediction is that Kamala was going to win.
		I feel really bad for him.
		He had this great track record.
		And then he decided at some point that CNN was trustworthy.
		And this is the same thing with people like Malcolm Nance.
		They live in this brainwashed cult world where they watch MSNBC all day.
		And MSNBC is just spewing fake news for money.
		And these people believe it.
		And this is where they end up thinking that we're in, oh, it's 1933 again.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		It's open season in cop.
		He literally says it's like open hunting season for black men and cops going to shoot them.
		I mean, the last year I looked out was 2019, but it was like there were about 10 unarmed black men killed by police officers the entire year.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Great point.
		Like, the left tends to believe the most exaggerated and the most ridiculous things.
		When, you know, right before and right around the time that George Floyd died, there were, if you asked your typical liberal, you know, they would say that there's probably hundreds to thousands of black men killed by police every year.
		Every year.
		And things like, oh, I'm going, like, Donald Trump is going to deport everyone that's brown.
		It doesn't matter if you're a citizen or not.
		You're all going to go.
		That's what they're talking about on X and TikTok.
		They're going to outlaw abortion.
		It is all histrionic.
		It is all the most extreme, ridiculous caricature.
		And I understand that generally the left has less of an understanding of the right than the right does of the left.
		The right will listen to the arguments made by the left and listen to the things that they want.
		And the left just tends to look at the right as a caricature of what the most evil is.
		But you'd think at some point they would begin to attempt to understand.
		And I don't think they will.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		But just to be clear, this guy doesn't believe any of that nonsense.
		He doesn't actually believe that.
		If you go on TikTok and you see these girls screaming in the car, and most of that is also fake, by the way, but if you're going to find anyone who actually believes that stuff, it's going to be the TikTok women screaming in cars.
		This guy doesn't believe it, and you know he doesn't believe it, because if you actually believe that, Uh, then you would respond a certain way.
		And one thing you would do is you would leave the country.
		I mean, if you actually believed, if you actually believed that a fascist dictator is going to run the country now, it's open season on you.
		Like, anyone can shoot, because he's a black guy.
		Anyone can shoot you.
		People are getting rounded up and put in camps and...
		They're not going to cure diseases anymore.
		I don't know where that comes from.
		If you really believe that, then it would be an easy decision to leave the country.
		Flee.
		Flee for your life.
		But he's not going to do that.
		Because he's not sitting around in fear.
		He's quite comfortable.
		And this is just rhetoric on his part.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I do think there are going to be some people who leave.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Celebrities who said that...
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		God willing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think this time it may be true.
		And you know why?
		There are two lists that we're hoping will be released by the Trump administration.
		All right.
unidentified		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So I think some people might want to get out before Donald Trump gets into office.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know what I mean?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I just want to say this.
		I think because Donald Trump threatened to assassinate Liz Cheney, which is a very real thing that he actually said.
		And it's a true story and not fake news.
		I think Joe Biden has a responsibility to help the Cheneys leave the country right now for their own safety.
		And I think he also has to help every journalist who repeated that story leave the country because Trump is going to be vindictive.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		I totally agree.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		That's very kind of you also to be thinking about their well-being.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I mean, look, when you have a presidential candidate making those kinds of unbelievable, I would say unbelievable threats, something has to be done to protect those people.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		This line about Muslims and Latinos is especially crazy.
unidentified		I don't know.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Muslims and Latinos that were, they were soon about to die in mass deportation and roundup camps.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Why did he throw Muslims in there?
unidentified		I don't know.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Are they here illegally as well?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Why did Trump throw Muslims in there is the question, Elad.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, but the Muslims voted for Trump.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		And so did the Latinos.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		And he's like, well, they're voting for, you know, because Trump's racist or whatever.
		And it's just like, I kind of think, you know, what I love about this is they're basically screaming in the face of Latinos, you're stupid.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You have no agency.
		You're dumb.
		But you know what's funny is that Yale study that found white liberals talk down to black people.
		They exhibit, they pretend to be less competent than they are when they speak to minorities.
		And this is exactly it.
		They think the poor minority is too stupid to figure out what they need for their families.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		There is a little incoherence in his foreign policies, geopolitical policies here.
		He's complaining about the Russians with Ukrainians dying.
		He's complaining about the Ayatollah with the Iranians.
		But then he's also saying the Israelis will be emboldened to be genociding Gazans.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, right.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		So there's no, it's not coherent here.
		It's because, you know, because the Iranians are actually attacking the Israelis who, and the Iranians are saying they're trying to prevent, you know, alleged genocide in Gaza.
		And all this is a mishmash.
		And Malcolm Nance is happy to see Donald Trump reelected because it's good for him personally, and it's going to line his pockets.
		Because now, whenever he says stuff like this, it will go mega viral.
		Attention to MSNBC will be through the roof.
		MSNBC did their best under their first Trump administration.
		And Malcolm Nance is now about to be a part of MSNBC's You know, people will line up for the second term.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		MSNBC is going to turn into some, like, liberal YouTube channel with one guy left on it, and they're going to get 40,000 views per video.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It's more left than the Young Turks is nowadays, especially with Anna and Shank behaving the way that they have lately.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but I think that's a good point, and something to keep in mind, that a lot of these people in the corporate media, they...
		Trump is basically a lifeline for them.
		He's going to keep them somewhat relevant for the next four years.
		I mean, they're not relevant and they have no influence, but at least it gives them kind of a niche for four years where they could just, you know, attack the Trump administration.
		And so really, I think many of them are quite, I think you're right, I think a lot of them are actually happy that he was elected.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Also this line here that women will die from getting pregnant.
		I mean, all of these abortion advocates in the abortion lobby know that that's not true, that women are not going to be prosecuted and never are for having miscarriages.
		But they're comfortable saying that even though it means that some women who actually are experiencing complications from a miscarriage will be less likely to go to a hospital and therefore more likely to die because they believe that they'll go to jail for having a miscarriage because it will help them to try to push back against abortion laws which cut into the profits of slaughtering unborn babies.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What I love about this line as well is that When you say something like, we should not allow abortions at nine months, they say, oh, that's an edge case.
		These things never happen.
		Why are you even arguing it?
		And then they go, here's one woman who died recently from a complication, and it's like, do they not follow the same logic?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Well, and it's not even true, though.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But it's like...
		They will argue an edge case and say, this is why we must have universal access.
		And then when you say, well, I disagree because it goes too far, they say, oh, those are edge cases.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		When it comes to abortion, all they talk about is edge cases.
		The entire conversation is rape, incest, life of the mother.
		That's all they want to talk about with abortion.
		That's always been the case.
		You're talking about less than 1% of all cases fall into that category.
		And really, life of the mother cases, that actually doesn't happen.
		You never need an abortion to save a woman's life.
		So that's all they ever do.
		They never want to talk about the 99%.
		But I think this is another one of the great and really encouraging takeaways of Trump's victory is that we were told, even by conservatives, we've been told for two years now that...
		That Roe being overturned is going to be a political disaster for Republicans.
		And we're going to have this...
		It's going to be an uprising of pro-abortion feminists.
		And they're going to exact their revenge.
		And it just didn't happen.
		It did not materialize.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I got it for you guys.
		I know exactly how you can get abortion banned.
		100%.
		It's really easy.
		First, you're going to need a Democrat administration in power.
		Then you need to win a midterm with Republicans.
		The Republicans need to tank the economy.
		Then, once everyone's just super angry about the economy, we can squeeze through any laws that you want.
		You can ban anything because people just, well, it's the economy, stupid.
		So, my point here is, while Democrats were screaming at the top of their lungs that abortion was the principal issue, and they were trying to make it an issue, the only thing anybody cared about was that butter was $7.
		It's not the biggest issue for Americans.
		I think it ranked at number five.
		And I'm not saying it's not important to you guys.
		I'm just saying, you want to win an election, you go on economics.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		And you're right, it did rank highly.
		But remember, when wanting to protect democracy or thinking democracy was under threat ranked highly, people assumed that that meant that liberals were concerned that Trump was going to destroy democracy.
		But then most of the people who answered that they were concerned about the future of democracy actually ended up voting for Trump.
		That's what we learned from the exit poll.
		So similarly, people saying abortion was a very important issue to them doesn't necessarily mean that they were coming from the pro-abortion angle.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		So, Trump's Supreme Court was largely, obviously, responsible for overturning Roe v.
		Wade, but Trump has since then said, I think he was confused, not confused, but said that he was a little bit reluctant with the overturning, and now he said that he wouldn't move forward with any sort of national abortion ban.
		Do you have any thoughts moving forward on who's going to be the guy to get you to the next level with banning abortion?
		Like, Trump helped overturn Roe v.
		Wade.
		Do you think he's the guy to do the next step, or do you see him sort of running away from it?
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		What do you mean by the next step?
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I'm assuming you want to see a national abortion ban.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I would.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		If it were up to me, it would be federally banned from conception, period.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		And I would love to see that.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		Trump's not going to do that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Define abortion.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		The intentional violent termination of a pregnancy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And the reason why I asked you to do that is because I think...
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		You don't need violent, actually.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		Intentional termination of a pregnancy.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Intentional killing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There was that Jubilee video, I think, was with Ben Shapiro, and the woman said, no, you're wrong, abortion is not that.
		That's not what it is.
		And then, I think it was Ben who said this, this liberal woman viewed abortion as just, like, a miscarriage or something.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Or, like, they'll say early deliveries.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		It's like, shut up.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		No, she was saying, like, giving birth is an abortion or something.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, just silly.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, that was the weird thing when I think we had someone on this show, and she argued that birth was abortion.
		And I was like, what?
		Because it ends the pregnancy.
		And I was like, no, abortion...
		Because I actually had this argument with Seamus, like, two years ago, and I was wrong.
		Because I said, no, abortions could be in the instance of, say, like, a miscarriage, and Seamus told me I was wrong.
		And then I ended up not believing him and being wrong, and then we looked up the definition by law and Planned Parenthood, and I was like, oh, Seamus was right the whole time.
		Abortion, Planned Parenthood defines it as the intentional termination of a pregnancy that ends the life of the baby.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Right.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		And, uh, and yeah, if you are just ending the pregnancy itself, there's yes, I guess you could kill the baby, right?
		You could be, you could refer to delivering a baby as ending the pregnancy, but like no one talks that way, but that's also an important point.
		This is, this is something, this is, this is the point about late term abortions is that, and these are, this is every case when you hear about, well, there need to be an abortion to save the woman's life.
		And this is almost always later term.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Do you see that commercial they made?
		With the guy?
		With the guy?
		Okay, sorry to interrupt her, but the woman's on the ground, and she's bleeding, and the guy's like, doctor, what do I do?
		And he goes, she needs an abortion.
		And the Republican congressman grabs the phone and is like, no.
		And I was just like, if your wife falls on the ground covered in blood, and you don't call 911, you call your physician, and on top of that, your physician doesn't advise you to call 911, you are crazy people.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you probably need to get a new doctor.
		But that's the thing with a late-term abortion, when there can be cases where the pregnancy needs to end in order to preserve the woman's life, and so the baby needs to be delivered.
		But killing the baby, aborting the baby is an extra step that obviously is not necessary to preserve the woman's life.
		You could just deliver the baby and then try to save the baby's life.
		So every time they're saying that we need to get the abortion to preserve the woman's life, what they're saying is that Is that we need to deliver the baby and also kill the baby in the process, which is obviously a totally medically unnecessary.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But that's post-viability.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So in a circumstance where the baby's not going to survive on its own, maybe it's too soon in the pregnancy, but the health of the mother is jeopardized, I've never heard a conservative argue that there should not be attempts to save the mother's life.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		No.
		Well, also, it's even worse than that.
		You're absolutely right that that's how they frame this when they claim that there are medically necessary abortions, which there aren't.
		But on top of that, when they're saying medically necessary abortions, they're also saying for reasons of mental health.
		This woman will be depressed if she doesn't get an abortion.
		She'll be more depressed if she does.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I guess, Matt, one of the things I was trying to get at, it seems as though over the past couple of decades, Republicans have become less and less pro-life and Donald Trump is clearly the most pro-choice Republican we've ever had.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		What do you think about the direction of the Republican Party in relation to this issue?
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think if it were totally up to me, as I said, I'd have a federal abortion ban.
		That's not what's happening.
		Trump's not going to do that.
		I don't think any Republican president in the foreseeable future is going to do that, is going to campaign on that.
		And so this does move into the states.
		And that's just, I believe in like...
		It's acknowledging reality for what it is and then trying to operate within reality rather than demanding that reality be something that it's not.
		And so that's the reality that we're operating in right now is a pro-life movement.
		We're operating in a reality where there's no federal ban.
		There's probably not going to be one any time in the near future.
		And so it becomes a state-by-state battle.
		And so that's the future.
		That's where we need to fight it is in the states.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I mean, moreover, there seems to be a pro-choice consensus among both parties.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I feel like Republicans are now split, and Democrats are probably around 80-20.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		Depends on what you mean by pro-choice.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		14 weeks, give or take a couple of weeks.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if I go so far as to say consensus among them.
		I mean, there are plenty of very pro-life Republicans, even in an elected office.
		And I think what you're finding in some cases is pro-lifers and Republicans adopting this kind of incremental approach to protecting babies, which I agree with.
		All incrementalism means is that I am going to select the best possible option available to me right now.
		And so if the best thing I can do right now, if the best thing I can achieve right now is protecting babies past X point, then I'll take that.
		I'll take that now.
		And then I'm going to immediately start working for the next thing.
		I mean, I say the same thing about when we're the fight to protect children from gender, you know, quote-unquote gender transition.
		Right.
		And to me, that's incremental.
		So I want to protect children from this butchery.
		I also happen to think, personally, that it shouldn't be legal for doctors to do that to anybody, I don't care how old you are.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I think the incrementalism, though, is we're seeing it go in the opposite direction.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I mean, Bush was pro-life, Mitt Romney was extremely pro-life, and I think Trump is almost...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And Trump is, too, and Trump got Roe overturned.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I don't think Trump is pro-life.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, he says he is, but I do think this is kind of an absurd argument that...
		Those presidents you mentioned did not get Roe overturned.
		And so it's fascinating to me that there are pro-lifers who are like, I would not vote for Donald Trump.
		I'm like, he's given you more than any Republican president's ever given you on the issue.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't know if I agree with your premise.
		I do think that Trump is more pro-life than, say, Bush was.
		He appointed the pro-life justices.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		He had more of an opportunity, though, because Bush did what?
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Clarence Thomas, who was extremely pro-life, if I'm not mistaken.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		I'm talking about W. Bush.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		And Roberts, right?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		W. Roberts, who was really lame.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		And here's the other thing.
		This is not a small thing.
		This is significant.
		Trump is the only president who spoke at the March for Life.
		And, you know, I've been to the March for Life For eight years, the March for Life was happening in D.C. under Bush's tenure.
		Never showed up.
		Never showed up one time.
		And that really tells you something.
		So I think that at a minimum, Trump is as pro-life as past Republican presidents.
		I think you can make an argument that he's more.
		He's not as pro-life as I am, but I don't think that he's a step back on that issue.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's jump to this story from Fox News.
		Special Counsel Jack Smith moves to drop Trump election interference case.
		President-elect Trump promised during the campaign to fire Smith within two seconds after taking office.
		Hear, hear.
		And then, Jack Smith ordered by House GOP to preserve all documents related to Trump cases.
		So, uh...
		It's looking like these people are scared.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, Trump didn't need to even get into office, and Hamas is already calling for an end of the war.
		Jack Smith is already backing off.
		Judge Mershon is signaling he may get rid and dismiss these 34 charges against Donald Trump.
		That's it.
		This was clearly an attempt by Trump's political opponents to use the legal system to stop him from winning an election, and he won it.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		There's an argument that I made the other day about the price of energy and how when you have someone like Trump in office, the price of energy might just start going down because the future's marked.
		He'll signal to business that there's going to be fewer It's not exclusive to economic things.
		You see the behavior of other countries.
		Because he won the presidency.
		You see the behavior of Putin.
		You see the behavior of Hamas.
		You see that because Trump is coming into office, that they're responding to Trump coming into office, just like when Reagan was coming into office, Iran responded.
		The idea that the United States lives in a vacuum and that the president...
		Who the president is, is of no consequence to other countries or to the economy or to anything else.
		The United States is the most consequential country in the world, without question, bar none.
		And so when the United States moves, the rest of the world responds every single time.
		You know, it's said that when the U.S. has a sneeze, the rest of the world gets a cold.
		And those kind of things are real.
		And this is an unmitigated positive thing that Donald Trump is coming in.
		There have been zero negative things happen in the world since, like, on the international scope or whatever, foreign policy scope.
		Just because Donald Trump...
		Is going to be in office.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then it's just things are gradually improving.
		That was a joke I made to Seamus.
		He should make a cartoon where Trump's walking through his inauguration and everything's just getting better and improving and people are getting richer and a guy's like, the war is over!
		Then he gets there and he's like, I guess my job's done.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no, it's a beautiful thing.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		People are going to respond to the pressure that they believe the Trump administration will put on them or the lack of pressure that the Trump administration is perceived to be putting on their enemies or will put on their enemies.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But take a look at this from Real Clear Politics.
		Voters anxious about democracy.
		Take a look.
		They asked people, democracy in the U.S. is very secure, somewhat secure, somewhat threatened, very threatened.
		And among the very threatened cohort, they voted for Trump at a 4% edge.
unidentified		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And so what does that tell you?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The people in this country who think democracy is being threatened aren't concerned about January 6th, they're concerned about Jack Smith.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
unidentified		Mm-hmm.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		For good reason.
		It's honestly a smarter way of looking at it, right?
		Firstly, January 6th is nowhere near what they made it out to be.
		It was nowhere near as bad as the COVID riots and the 529 insurrection.
		But also, even if we wanted to claim that it was...
		The guy with the knife, or lack of a knife, but just the big scary dude who threatens to rob you when you have five bucks on you seems like a more immediate threat, but when someone hacks your bank account and empties it, that's actually way worse for you overall.
		And I would say that's what Jack Smith represents as opposed to the J6ers.
		Though, of course, I don't actually give a sense to the idea that that's what the J6ers are.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I think that the argument that Elon Musk made on the Joe Rogan podcast actually resonated with the American people.
		The situation with immigration, with the HHS program, the refugee resettlement program, it's being run by the Health and Human Services Department, transporting people that show up at the border and they say that they are looking for asylum.
		They bring them into the country, they transport them to purple states, and with the goal of those people becoming Citizens and voting for Democrats.
		There's intent in that.
		And I think that the American people realized it.
		I think that the American people believe because of the influx, because everyone knows that there's way more, you know, there's like 10 or whatever, 15 million illegals in the country in four years, which is just an astronomical number.
		number and i think because of that the american people were like look the the the additional people in the united states they're going to dilute my vote they're going to make my vote mean less and you saw the things that were happening in small towns like in ohio and i whether you think they were actually eating the dogs or eating the cats is totally irrelevant it brought focus to those people that were suffering because of a massive influx they
		Their town doubled in population, or maybe it was...
		I don't know the exact number, but it was a massive, massive increase that no small town could ever, ever hope to support.
		And people saw that, and they're like, yeah, this is a bad thing.
		The influx of people makes housing more expensive.
		The influx of people does not automatically make prices go down.
		So I think that the American people saw this as...
		A threat to their ability to influence their representatives.
		And so that's the actual threat to democracy that they saw.
		And it wasn't the, oh, Donald Trump's going to end democracy.
		It was the Democrats are using my tax money to dilute my actual, my voting ability and dilute the impact of my vote.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		And to add on to that, these people don't even have to vote to have an electoral impact because congressional seats are delegated by population based on the census.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		So these people, even if they don't vote, even if they never become citizens, will still have political power allocated as a result of them existing there.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Not that they won't eventually get citizenship.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		In some cities, they don't even require citizenship to engage in voting for their lower-level seats.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		I do wonder...
		I guess what most conservatives would say is that, especially when you look at those results, that Trump voters think that the threat to democracy is coming from the other end.
		Most conservatives would probably say that a lot of voters were concerned about the legal cases and that that was the threat against democracy, is the lawfare.
		Which is probably true, but I also wonder...
		I kind of think that all these criminal cases, and of course all this was, they weren't even really criminal cases.
		It was not about, they weren't even trying to throw Trump in jail.
		I mean, they would have loved to put him in jail if they could, but that was like a secondary benefit.
		It was really just about making a political case against Trump to stop him from being elected.
		And I sort of think that I think it had zero impact at all.
		I don't know if anybody was really thinking about that when they went to the polls.
		I think it just had zero impact.
		It was a total non-factor altogether, which maybe I'm wrong about that, but to me that's in some ways the most delicious kind of poetic justice, is if they went through all this effort with all the lawfare, and it's like nobody cared at all.
		It made zero impact because people were just so tuned out of the whole thing.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		So I actually asked this to Knowles yesterday.
		Obviously, a lot of people went after Trump and the former Trump administration officials, for example, Steve Bannon.
		Do you believe the Trump administration moving forward should seek retribution to some people who have broken the law, Democrats who've attacked him, or kind of, you know, be more conciliatory moving forward?
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		Oh, retribution.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		And do you have anybody in mind in particular?
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		Well, the problem is that the list is so long.
		I don't know that you could start.
		And also, in the federal government, the people that are...
		We opened the show with it, with the FEMA thing.
		The people that are, in a corrupt way, wielding the power of the federal government in illegal and corrupt ways, we don't even know their names.
		And should Trump get in there and find these people and root them out, get to the core of it, and...
		Prosecute them and throw them in jail.
		Yes, if that's what we mean by retribution, yes, absolutely he needs to do that.
		And I would even call it retribution.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		It's not even retribution.
		Because retribution makes it sound petty and personal and like he's only just concerned about the people that annoyed him or frustrated him.
		No, this is about finding the corrupt people, the people that are breaking the law and holding them accountable.
		It's about justice, like giving people what they deserve.
		And that's what it is to me.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no, I totally agree.
		When it comes to the lawfare against Donald Trump, too, obviously the left is projecting that's a clear-cut case of retribution.
		It doesn't have anything to do with an actual crime being committed.
		And I think part of the reason that the voters who seem to care about that the most were people who were worried about it rather than people who actually thought that the fact that he was a convicted felon carried any water is a product of the fact that, you know, your average voter Isn't all that interested in the abstractions, right?
		What they're concerned with, again, as we talked about earlier, is the price of butter.
		Not like, did he fail to properly disclose a specific campaign expenditure, or did his lawyer, and was he aware of this at the time?
		Nobody cares.
		Nobody cares.
		And especially when you consider the fact that the charges that were brought against him were a misdemeanor and then raised to the level of a felony, and then the statute of limit stations was extended.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		It's just, I don't think people It's so hard to keep track of all the cases against Trump.
		I'm not even 100% sure of this, but I think the Jack Smith was the classified documents case.
		There were so many cases against stuff.
		There was the January 6th stuff.
		There was the tax stuff in New York.
		I feel like I'm forgetting a couple.
		What happened in Georgia again?
		There was just so many cases.
		I don't know how the average American could pay attention and keep track of all the cases.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I don't think they did.
		I think he's right.
		A lot of that stuff just kind of became in the fuzz or whatever.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's the thing.
		Most Americans were like, which case is that again?
		How many cases are there?
		Weren't even paying attention.
		And there was always also this weird messaging problem for Democrats when it came to this, because they were going around saying, oh, you're going to elect a convicted felon?
		Well, and leave aside the fact that what he was convicted of is totally bogus.
		I mean, by their own logic?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		There's always arguments to be made that the left doesn't actually believe in hypocrisy at all.
		They'll use it against you if you allow them, but they don't actually believe in hypocrisy because they don't believe any of the arguments they make.
		Their only function is to attain power.
		So the arguments they make one day will switch as soon as they're no longer functional.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		So when people say stuff like that, I would just always be like, well, the founders were felons according to the Crown, so up here is Yeah, although, I mean, the left, and that's the thing about it, we say most people think hypocrisy is saying one thing and doing another, and that's not actually what hypocrisy is.
		Hypocrisy is just pretending that you believe something you don't actually believe.
		And so, in that sense, I mean, these people are hypocrites in the truest sense of the word.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no, it's very true, and of course it never applies to them.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I looked it up.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I think Jack Smith was the January 6th case, just to get my cases in order.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I just want to mention this.
		When your values are complete and total licentiousness, it's impossible to be a hypocrite.
		What standard are you being held to?
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		Well, and when you're a relativist, right?
		When you believe the truth is relative and we all have our own truth, this is my truth, I'm standing on my truth.
		And if you actually believe that, which they do, and this is the core of leftism, is that it's relativism, that they really do believe that we all have our own truth and our own reality.
		And if that's the case, then yeah, you can't really be, there is no double standard because everybody lives in their own universe and has their own standards according to that.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		If people have different truths, then there is no real truth.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		You never get on the same page then.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Your truth is literally an absurdity.
		It's self-refuting.
		There's no such thing as your truth.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I'm just over here tracking the old results, which we're still waiting for.
		A couple minutes before we go to Super Chats.
		Republicans may only end up with 220 right now.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Is there an update on Carrie Lake?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Carrie Lake doesn't seem to be improving enough as time goes on in Arizona.
		There's still 83% reporting, 17% left, but she's still down by like 35k.
		Looks like 34.
		And so, Charlie Kirk had hope because at the time, with half a million outstanding, she only needed to...
		She only needed 51% of the remaining to come in for her, and she'd end up winning.
		But she's still down 34.
		There's a possibility, but I don't know for sure.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Arizona's such an interesting state.
		They had John McCain as their senator something like a decade ago.
		To flip over to somebody like Carrie Lake, it's...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		A bunch of last-minute mail-ins came in for Jackie Rosen, so she won Nevada, defeating Sam Brown.
		None of these candidates got 39,364.
		Would you look at that?
unidentified		Wow.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		And Sam Brown was a war veteran, a combat veteran, I believe.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's pretty wild.
		Yeah, and so the AP said PA is over, so it's 53, but decision desk won't call it.
		Bob Casey is not giving up, and he's saying, no, we're going to get it, despite the fact he's down nearly 40,000.
		And the AP said with the remaining ballots in, they don't come from anywhere that Casey was winning, so there's no point.
		But, you know...
		Can't blame him for trying, I guess.
		Republicans should be doing the same thing.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Wisconsin and Michigan are so interesting here because these are states Trump won.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, what's really fascinating is that Ruben Gallego got more votes than Harris.
		Like, a lot.
		Like, a couple hundred thousand more.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		She's really running below the ticket, huh?
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Or, well, she was.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's pretty crazy.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		That is very weird.
unidentified		Yep.
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		says, gentlemen, just want to mention that while we have made a big win in protecting our democracy this week, the winter arc is upon us soon.
		Hit the gym, turnpike, the trail, make them speechless.
		How many of you made your goal of being fit by the election?
		That was something we had going on on our server, FitCast, where I said everybody should be in shape by the time the election happens.
		And perhaps because everyone was in shape, Trump won.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		That's why.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		What counts as being in shape?
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		What kind of shape are we going for here?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		We were looking for personal improvement.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Personal improvement, yeah.
		So, you know, like if someone's 300 pounds and you get down to 250, like, hey, that's good.
		You know, you're working on yourself.
		That's fantastic.
		So some people, I think, actually ended up getting ripped.
		They were like, let's go!
		And now they can carry two Seamus at once.
		Wow.
		That's a hefty load.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Two Shamoose.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		The world couldn't handle two of me.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		Garrett Elgus has been watching The Daily Wire for five plus years and Tim Kass for almost two years.
		Amazing seeing this team up.
		All my favorite political commentators in one place.
		Though sadly, I must say, Knowles is my favorite MAGA 2024.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I thought you had good taste until the very end there.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		That's a disgrace.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, he called you a stone-cold psychopath on the show the other day.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		He did, yeah.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		Is that what Noel said?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		You do have an amazing ability to deadpan.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Like, the movie was great, and it was really impressive.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The point was that the talent of Matt Walsh is your deadpan delivery of your trolling is just, people can't tell if you're serious or not.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then he said, well, he's a stone-cold psychopath.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		I'll take that as a compliment.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, can I ask you a question about, so, like, when you're in a room surrounded by a bunch of, like, DEI experts and groveling liberals, and you say, you know, I'm sorry, I thought I had 17 black friends, but it might have been 15.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Like, what is going through your head in that moment as you're talking to those people?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, that was the, you apologize.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Like, what is happening?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I'm, like, curious, like, what's going through your head?
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		Uh, in that moment, I was proud of myself for thinking of that line, so.
		When you're making a movie, too, you get a line in there or something, and you think, okay, that's going to make it in.
		That'll make the cut.
		There's a trailer.
		Sometimes I'm doing the trailer in my head.
		That's a trailer moment.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Just to clarify, what was so good about it was you initially said you had 17 black friends, and then later on when they got mad at you, you apologized like, it might have been 15.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		As if that's why they were mad at you.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		But I'm also curious, too, because I think if I was in that situation, it would be really hard for me not to crack up.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Do you not feel any temptation to laugh at all?
unidentified		I do.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I get that question a lot, but I think that there were certainly moments throughout certain scenes where I had to stifle laughter.
		In fact, it was kind of convenient because the one scene that, to me, was the funniest in the moment was Race to Dinner, and And I was wearing a mask, a COVID mask for that, so I didn't have to worry as much about keeping a straight face.
		But usually...
		Through most of it, in the moment, it's super uncomfortable and awkward, as you can imagine.
unidentified		Yeah.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		And you also have to keep in mind that, you know, it's five minutes in the movie, but it was an hour and a half in real time.
		And so it's like exhausting and awkward, and these people are miserable to be around.
		So it's not a whole lot of fun.
		And I'm also...
		A lot of what I'm hearing makes me kind of angry.
		I'm mad at what they're saying.
		So it's more of a temptation to start yelling at them.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		That's fair.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		You know...
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		So yeah, there's not as much of a temptation as you would think to start laughing.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Has anybody in Hollywood reached out and told you they loved your movie yet?
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Oh, nice.
		We'll keep that off the record.
		We will keep those off the record, but it happened.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		With Trump winning the popular vote, I think we're going to start seeing that shift where people...
		You know, we've been having these discussions about with Trump winning this popular vote, do we now storm into the establishment media spaces?
		Basically, like you go to these advertisers, you go to these production companies and say, you now know for a fact you are the minority market share.
		If your business wants to make money and operate as a business, the money's here, not there.
		I don't think a lot of these companies don't actually care about politics in their mind.
		They're thinking we don't want to be fringe political.
		So when the leftists were saying, well, they're all white supremacists, these advertisers, these production companies are just like, we don't want to be involved with whatever that is.
		So just disavow, disavow.
		Well, now we've got a popular mandate.
		Trump won the popular vote.
		Now we can easily just go and say, and look at this, Trump's at 74,254,000 votes.
		He's hitting his numbers from last time around.
		Harris is at 70.
		She's down 11 million.
		You can now go to these companies and say, hey, guess what?
		You're on the wrong side of history.
		You bet on the wrong horse.
		Come back to the majority market share where the businesses lie and the money is, and we will welcome you, and then we'll displace the wokeness.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		Do you think that will happen or are you wishful thinking?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Nope, I don't think it's wishful thinking at all.
		When Bud Light tanked, Target tanked, Disney lost a billion dollars, you're going to get some business consultant and he's going to say, I don't care about politics, I just want to sell soda.
		And now you're going to go to Bud Light and you're going to say, you learned your lesson, right?
		You sided with this minority fringe element thinking they were popular and it burned your company to the ground.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Literally.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		I think we will see that in corporate with brands in the corporate world.
		I think in the entertainment world, I think it's going to be a while before.
		There are a lot of people in Hollywood that agree with us and that if they could do whatever they want, they'd make very different kinds of movies.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I want to just say...
		Sorry.
		Go ahead.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		No, that was it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		As of right now, Donald Trump has surpassed his 2020 total vote count.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Interesting.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So he currently has more votes now than he got in 2020.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Whereas Kamala Harris is currently down just about 11 million votes.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		How much is California's reporting in?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And California's currently at 70%.
unidentified		Oh, wow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And so a lot of people kept saying, where's the 20 million votes for Harris?
		And I pointed out...
		At the time, we were only 60% California reporting, so she can expect to get another couple million.
		I think there's no way she's getting the popular vote, but she may end up with like 71 or 72 million.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		It's crazy considering how many Biden got.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		It was 80 plus million?
unidentified		81.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		81 million in the past election.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Indeed.
		Indeed.
		Dovac says, can't wait to see all that remains at Sonic Temple.
		Love you guys and keep it up, Phil.
		Love hearing your takes and hearing that there are popular musicians who aren't afraid to speak out against the machine.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Cheers, man.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Thanks.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, we're not quite the machine, right?
		We've taken the popular mandate.
		If these companies are to turn around, do we become the machine?
		If we're the majority controller of the institutions...
unidentified		It's like Nietzsche says, that when you fight the abyss, you stare into it, don't become it, man.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That's actually the point.
		That's right.
		You can be in a position of influence without abandoning the principles that the U.S. has been built on.
		I feel like that's the point of fighting back against all this stuff is not to not to take, you know, take power so we can so we can be oppressive about the things that we want.
		It's it's to be in positions of influence so that way we can restore a country that respects the rights of everybody and, you know, respects people's differences and says, you know, there are things that we're going to disagree about.
		But we're not going to, you know, excommunicate people from public life because they have the wrong opinions.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we're also very far off from even having the temptation to be the machine.
		This is not a problem that we're going to have anytime soon.
		Because, you know, to be the machine, you have to own all the institutions.
		And we just...
		Conservatives...
		We're not even close to that at this point.
		I mean, the institutions are owned by the left still now, and this is a generational—it's a generational fight.
		It's not going to happen because— We want to battle.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		They're so much more individualistic than the left wing, who want to work together and who have more—has more affinity towards something like socialism, as opposed to right-wingers who are— They'd rather do it themselves.
		They don't want to join together and work together.
		They want to do it themselves as opposed to a left winger who they'd rather go work at an established media, the New York Times, the Washington Post, and the right wing guy rather than do it himself.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Well, also, it's not just a question of our opinions or perspectives or biases becoming ascendant.
		It's a question of whether we will lie to people to make that happen and maintain that hegemony.
		Because the problem with the media isn't simply that they have a bias.
		That is a problem, but they lie all the time.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		And they demand that you lie.
		It's more than that.
		You know, men can become women.
		No, I'm not ever going to believe that.
		Like, I might be polite to someone that's trans, but that doesn't mean that I'm ever, ever going to believe that a man can become a woman.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Did Michael Rapoport end up supporting Trump or no?
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I believe so, but I'll check.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Remember when he did that whole thing where he was like, voting for Donald Trump is on the table?
unidentified		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And that was over Israel?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because right now, Andy Knows reporting that far-off extremists are gathering outside of the Vic Theater in Chicago to shut down his performance over his support for Israel.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		So comic, Michael Rappaport says he lost.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Harris lost his vote over Israel.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
unidentified		When?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		When did he say that?
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		August 1st.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but he came back after something happened and said, Trump is off the table!
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't mean he voted for Harris, but I do think it's funny that these staunch anti-Trump people...
		It's like, okay, well, Michael Rappaport, you're officially politically homeless.
		The far left is going after you because you support Israel, and you don't got any allies on the Trump side.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Rappaport actually endorsed Donald Trump.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		When?
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Looking at...
		This article came out a week ago.
		What?
		I'm looking at Newsweek.
		Full list of celebrities endorsing Donald Trump, Kid Rock, Mel Gibson, Mel Gibson, and more.
		But Rappaport was on the list during the November 2023 episode of his I Am Rappaport podcast.
		The actor said he would vote for Trump if Biden didn't get the Israel-Hamas situation under control.
		If it comes to pig D Donald Trump and smoking...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no, no, no.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't believe that's correct because he came back out later and said his first statement was...
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Voting for picnic Donald Trump is on the table.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then like two months later, he was like, nope, it's off the table.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I'm not doing it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's not going to happen.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So I don't know his official position.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		And I will say this, though.
		I'm somebody who's extremely pro-Israel.
		Michael Rappaport is as well.
		He makes pro-Israel people I think look so stupid.
		Some of these pro-Israel advocates are some of the...
		Aren't doing good for the cause, in my opinion.
		And I think Michael Rapoport is one of them.
		I just wanted to put that out there.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I don't pay any attention to him.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I'm curious, what would you say he does?
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		He's like screaming into a phone very aggressively, super close to his face, and like making dumb faces and just sounding like a whiny little girl.
		Yeah.
		I don't know who you're convincing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He gets real close to the camera and then just screams at him.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Dumb jokes.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I feel like that was his shtick about everything, though.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		So he's just applying Israel to what his normal shtick is.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		He's just getting angry on camera.
		You look stupid and whiny and you aren't making any points and you aren't convincing anybody.
		Yeah.
		We'll take the vote nonetheless.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, let's see what we got here.
		We got Infinite Soul Daddy saying, we need a Make America Healthy Again culture war episode.
		Dr.
		Lane Norton would be ideal as he has both worked in nutrition research and also run a monthly research review, as well as being a champion powerlifter.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		So excited to see if RFK Jr.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		gets appointed something health-related in the health administration.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		I think he will.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I love how people panic over that, as if we're just doing such a great job with maintaining and promoting health in America.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		And if we shake that system up, we're screwed.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		People are so ridiculous.
		People act as if we got rid of the FDA. That means that nothing would be safe anymore.
		It's as if liability doesn't still lie with the companies that are producing stuff.
		Like, oh, they...
		They would just go ahead and willy-nilly throw razor blades into everything they make and all the food we eat because, you know, no one would sue or anything like that.
		And another thing is they do that with the Department of Education, too.
		I'm personally very pro getting rid of the Department of Education entirely.
		And people act like if we don't have it, people won't be educated.
		It's like the Department of Education was created in 1979, and there have been zero significant discoveries in physics since 1979.
		Everything that's been discovered and happened in physics since the creation of the Department of Education has been built on things that we already knew or theories that were already in place.
		There was zero new discoveries, zero movement in physics since the Department of Education was created.
		Everything happened before then.
		So the idea that without the DOE, the Department of Education, that scientific research will stop and people will become foolish to that.
		That is a result of the Department of Education.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		People also think they conflate the Department of Education with the public school system.
		And so they think if you get rid of the Department of Education, you get rid of the public school system.
		That's not the case at all, of course.
		The public school system is almost entirely a state-level thing.
		Now, I'm in favor of getting rid of the public school system, too, personally.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		But Trump's not talking about doing that.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		That's the thing we were keeping quiet.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I advocate for that all the time.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think the whole public education system is ridiculous and I do not support it.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		We could do a whole thing.
		It has utterly failed to actually educate children.
		Speaking of the Department of Education, one of the only useful things the Department of Education has done in the last I don't know, 30 years?
		Exactly 20 years ago, they did a report about the sex abuse epidemic in the public school system by educators, by staff members.
		And they found that, and I don't want to get it wrong, but I think it was something like...
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		One in ten students will experience some form of sexual mistreatment.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		So whether that's a really inappropriate sexual joke or a teacher touching them.
unidentified		Right.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		One in ten.
		That's what I thought it was.
		One in ten.
		So you're talking about millions and millions of kids.
		And that was 20 years ago.
		And as far as I know, the Department of Education never followed up on that.
		They have not written that.
		They have not returned to see what's happened in the last 20 years because nothing was done to solve that problem.
		And one thing we know is when you have a widespread sex abuse epidemic in an institution, if you don't aggressively try to solve it, it's not going to just go away.
		It only gets worse.
		And they've done nothing about that because they're utterly useless.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Well, they're open about it.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		They say they want teachers to have secret conversations about sex with students.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I mean, and as far as RFK goes...
		I'm sorry.
		I was going to say, the Assistant Secretary for Health right now is currently a man who thinks he could be a woman.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, right.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Can't get much worse.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		And he's overweight, too.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		Catald Swift says, prepare the crystals.
		So for those who don't know, it's a meme where someone said...
		Some liberal, you know, should be trapped in crystals for 10,000 years, and now Seamus has made, I think, two cartoons where Trump traps liberals in crystals.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		It is right and just.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Traps them in crystals for 10,000 years.
		It's funny.
		Some people are saying it's from Elder Scrolls.
		It's not really, but it's funny nonetheless.
		Let's grab some more Super Chats.
		All right.
		Paracius.
		Is that how you say it?
		Paralseus?
		Matt Walsh, is anime still satanic now that the Vatican has an anime mascot?
		I also remember the Daily Wire simping for Ron DeSantis.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		Is anime still satanic?
unidentified		You know, some of it.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		Some of it is.
		I think science has shown that it was 27% is satanic.
		That's also in Project 2025.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		They actually did replicate that several times.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Between like 27 and 33.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The first chapter of Project 2025 is the case for banning anime in the United States.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Most people don't know that.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		We're going to put tariffs on anime.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All the weebs.
		You got to go.
		Send them back.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I'm a big supporter of animation tariffs as an animator.
unidentified		Yeah.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I mean, anime has to be made way more expensive.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		They're competing with us.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, don't a lot of these studios hire Korean animators?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Oh, in America?
		Oh, yeah, absolutely.
		Yeah, a lot of studios.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's true.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They're outsourcing animation jobs to Korea.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		Let me ask this.
		Because when I made that comment about anime, everyone's like, well, you don't even know what anime is.
		How do you define anime?
unidentified		Yeah.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		I said, yeah, I guess I don't really.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		What is it?
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I want to say like a Japanese cartoon.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		Is it any cartoon made in Japan?
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		Is that anime?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I believe so.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I think anime just means animation.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, anime references Japanese animation.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		So if it's in Japan, it's...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		A cartoon in Japan, we refer to it as anime.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Or made in Japan.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		It has to be made in Japan?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I believe so, yeah.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I've got Japanese influence, I guess, for the modern day.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, no.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		People debate.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Anime is Japanese cartoons.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so if you're a Japanese person, would you consider Looney Tunes to be anime?
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		No, no.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Cartoon.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Maybe.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		However, there was a really funny meme where it was a guy basically saying that a Japanese guy flies to America with Bugs Bunny t-shirts and a Tasmanian devil hat and is walking around talking to people how excited he is to go see the Looney Tunes and we'd all look at that person like a lunatic.
		And they were like, now you understand what it's like when these Americans fly to Japan and are super excited about Goku and all that stuff.
		Although the meme isn't necessarily correct.
		The thing about in Japan with anime is that it's They have more anime and manga than they do live-action shows, although it has been changing in the past, I don't know, couple decades.
		But it's just like...
		We have Superman, they have Goku, they have their characters, we have our characters, we have Mickey Mouse, Mickey Mouse is everywhere.
		Their shows can be a bit more serious than ours, and they prefer serialized shows more than we do.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		And Satanism more often, at least 27% of the time.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Perhaps, indeed, yes.
		Right now, I think the biggest problem with it is that, for whatever reason, I don't know enough about it, But the studios are producing like 50 versions of one show, and then there's like 50 different shows, each with 50 versions of the same show, and it's the weirdest thing ever.
		So if you go to Amazon, for instance, and you look at, say, like the Crunchyroll, there's like 15 shows that are all titled something like, I transported to another dimension where I'm a warrior.
		And they're titled literally like that.
		One is like, that time I got reincarnated as a slime.
		And it's about a guy who dies, goes to a reality where there's goblins and he's a slime and he's got magic powers.
		Then there's one where it's like, I transported to a mythical world where I level up real fast.
		I'm not kidding.
		These are what the titles of the shows are.
		And they're all basically the same thing, and I'm like, this is the weirdest thing ever.
		Could you imagine if, like, tomorrow you woke up, and there were 15 shows called The Samson's, The Simpsons, The Simpsons, The Simpsons, The Simpsons.
		It's all just different versions of The Simpsons, and they're all just like...
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		This is Family Guy and American Dad, and like...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but like, there's three shows that are comparable, but imagine if they literally all at once, right now, came out with American Dad, American Uncle, American Grandfather, American Son, and you're just like, they're all the same show.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's what they're doing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's the weirdest thing.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		That is weird.
		Can I just go back to the initial question about me calling anime satanic?
		Yeah.
		It's just, it's always funny the things that people latch onto, because that initial comment of mine, I was doing an all-access, it was like two years ago.
		It's just like a live stream for our subscribers.
		It was a total just off-the-cuff, offhand remark that meant nothing to me at all.
		Because someone brought up anime, and I said, that's satanic, whatever.
		And then I just moved on.
		And for two years, like that one little sentence, it's just constantly brought up all the time.
		This has become a defining feature of me, apparently, is my opposition to anime.
		It's a platform of my...
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		People are committed to anime.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		One of my favorite memes is Jordan Peterson saying, you have to watch Attack on Titan.
		Because it actually does sound like something Jordan Peterson would...
		For those that know what Attack on Titan is about, it's completely plausible that Jordan Peterson would tell people to watch the show.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		That's like an early AI meme, right?
unidentified		Yeah.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		If someone got an AI, it really sounded like him.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But the thing is that Attack on Titan is about punishing a nation for the sins of the past and people holding grudges.
		And I'm like, that's very much kind of what Jordan Peterson would talk about.
		So hearing that...
		It's believable.
		I actually would love to sit down and have Jordan Peterson watch a couple episodes and then give us his explanation and understanding of the philosophy around the ideas.
		It's basically like a group of people terrorize another group of people.
		Thousands of years later, they're imprisoned.
		And it's just because they're the bad people who did bad things.
		It's interesting.
		More complicated show than that.
		They're giant monsters that eat people, but that's besides the point.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		Have you had Jordan on the show?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Just for a few minutes on election night.
		But, you know, the thing is, I've talked to him about it.
		And he thinks The Culture War is a better show where we actually just will discuss larger ideas and philosophy, whereas this show is we pull up news articles and comment on them.
		So, you know, we'll see.
		We'll see.
		I also think it would be what we need is for...
		Here's my pitch to you, Matt.
		Having you and Seamus watch movies and comment on them would be the funniest thing ever.
		So Seamus and I were hanging out and we were watching, what was that movie called?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Oh my gosh.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		For Sale.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And Seamus is just talking during the whole movie, but don't worry, it was funny.
		Because the movie was just the worst, one of the worst movies ever.
		And I was like, you know what's funny is like, this movie's intolerable except for Seamus being here and providing the jokes.
		Now it's actually really funny.
		I was like, Seamus, you should actually do like a Mystery Science Theater 3000.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Mystery Science, shame is 3,000.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But I say this to you.
		There's two movies you need to watch and comment on.
		I don't know if you'll actually do it, but it's The Craft, the new one.
		Have you seen it?
unidentified		Oh, man.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And The Spiral.
		Okay, so The Craft is the remake.
		In the 90s, teenage girls are witches or whatever.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, the witchcraft thing.
unidentified		I've heard of it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, the remake, they're super woke.
		One of the witches is a guy, but trans.
		And they use magic to turn the bully gay.
		And the whole thing is just this...
		David Duchovny turns out to be an evil wizard or something, and he's the patriarchy, and he's like, I'm going to take women's powers away from them or something.
		And so it's actually just mind-numbingly woke and bad.
		And the movie The Spiral is about an interracial gay couple that moves into this house, and the neighbor is this Waspy family.
		And then it turns out the Waspy family are immortal because they...
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		Spoilers.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm telling you what it's about.
		They trick interracial gay couples into moving into the house so they can they need human sacrifices to be immortal.
		And they they can easily get people to turn against the minorities.
		So that's what they do.
		I like hearing you guys like comment on these would be absolutely hilarious.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Hearing you tell Matt Walsh that he needs to watch this movie is hilarious.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		So he needs to take their life force or something?
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		But why do they need to be interracial and also gay?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		In the movie, at the end, he says something like...
		You can't just sacrifice anybody because people will find out and they'll be mad that you did it.
		But when you bring a marginalized group in, and he literally says this, and I watched it, I can't remember, it's been a long time, it's a Shudder film.
		He's like, maybe they're Muslim or gay or trans or black, but no one seems to care when they go.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Those would all be hashtags.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Those would all be hashtags the next day.
unidentified		Everyone in the country would be talking about it for weeks.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I could be getting the movie wrong because I watched it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I couldn't actually watch it, so it was on.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		So as long as it's one of the only groups that anyone actually cares about when they die.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Dude, I would actually be more interested in remaking that movie Netflix-style where we swap the races.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you gotta lower middle-aged white men.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		They never get the hashtag.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Never!
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		They never remember their name.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		It never happens.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Say his name.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Alright, let's grab this one.
		IsThisDom says, Matt Walsh, you were recommended an anime that you were bound to hate.
		It was a poor choice.
		Watch Vinland Saga.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		I watched One Punch Man.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that was great.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Did you like it?
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		One Punch Man is mocking anime.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		Well, okay, but can I make the argument against it?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		It's just weird, man.
		That's my whole argument.
		It's just weird.
		I don't know.
		I tried to watch it.
		It was just weird.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The issue, I suppose, is you're watching a show that's intentionally mocking anime, and it's like, if you watch anime, and then you watch...
		If you've never seen anime, you're like, is this an anime?
		Well, no.
		One Joint Man is meant to insult and mock anime.
		It's hilarious.
		So it's all a gag.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so what's the anime that I should watch?
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Dragon Ball Z. No.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Pokemon's fantastic.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Pokemon's not an anime.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Digimon.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Digimon.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Don't listen to these people.
		Death Note.
		Don't listen to these people.
		Death Note is about a high school student.
		One day he finds a notebook that was dropped by a death god that if he writes their name in it, they'll die.
		And then he begins to develop this Machiavellian scheme to massacre people all across the world.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		Did you tell me that?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I did tell you to watch this.
		And this is considered one of the best anime manga shows.
		It's much more serious.
		It's really well done.
		And I'm going to spoil a little bit so I can get an idea.
		He's intentionally killing people in a way that people will recognize a pattern so that they fear that someone has supernatural powers to murder.
		That's what he wants them to believe.
		So when the investigators are looking at people and trying to figure it out, with one hand, he's doing his homework.
		With his other hand, he's reaching into potato chips and writing names down.
		I recommend it.
		People love Death Note.
		It's good.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		You know what it is?
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		A lot of it is just, I just can't get into the cartoons.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I can't believe it.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		Well...
		A cartoon can be funny.
		I can laugh, but if I want to get invested in the story...
		I don't know.
		There's this wall that's put up.
		I feel the same way about musicals.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		You know, you need the suspension of disbelief.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I think that's what you're missing here.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		But he's saying that musicals just don't allow that for us.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, once they start singing, I'm like, well, now I'm aware that I'm watching a thing.
		And it's a little bit that, too, with cartoons.
		So a funny cartoon, like South Park's Lair, so I can watch that and laugh.
		But if I'm supposed to get invested in the story, I have trouble...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And they're big because they're serialized.
		You know, you can't just watch an episode.
		One of the mistakes that they made in the 90s when they tried bringing anime to the United States is that they didn't understand this.
		The Americans were like, when we do cartoons, it doesn't matter.
		You watch one episode, you watch them all.
		At the end of the episode, everything goes back to normal.
		So they transported some anime over, and they just spattered the episodes out randomly, and it made literally no sense.
		So you're like trying to watch, and you're like, one episode, the guy's flying, the next one, the guy's made of cheese.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		So I have a question.
unidentified		What?
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		Is there any example of...
		So is this an American thing?
		Like in America, we think of cartoons as it's a funny thing.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		Like they're only funny.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		So are there examples of American cartoon shows that are not...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Avatar.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		It's kind of anime-inspired, though.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		But it's American, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so Avatar and they have that series.
		There's three seasons, and it's critically acclaimed.
		It's an amazing show, actually.
		And then they have The Legend of Korra, which is pretty good.
		And it's fun.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		And those are American, they're not anime?
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They are American shows made by Nickelodeon in the style of anime, but still animated.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I think they're made by Asian Americans, too.
		I don't know if that changes the calculus.
		I don't know if that changes.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		I'm talking about an American cartoon, American style that's not funny.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		It's just supposed to be a drama or action or something.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		There's plenty that aren't funny, but yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like Simpsons after season 10.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		It's so true, dude.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		It's crazy how fast that show fell off.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, most American cartoons are just considered just to be funny.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I'm trying to think, and someone will try to do a dramatic element to them, like Rick and Morty would do that thing.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		That's a comedy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's pure comedy.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		That's why I said element.
		Oh, Samurai Jack.
		That's literally my point.
		It's a comedy, but they'll try to have a serious element.
		Samurai Jack's also kind of anime-inspired.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I feel like this is probably also made by an Asian American.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Samurai Jack looks nothing like anime.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's a totally American style.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		It is a more American style.
		It's not made by an Asian, actually.
		It's all about fighting, and it's about a samurai, and there's clearly Asian inspiration there.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Sure, sure, but it's an American cartoon that is not funny.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm trying to think.
		There's probably a couple kids' shows that maybe fall into that category that are more educational.
		Invincible is one.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Invincible is a new show on Amazon, which is a superhero show.
		Actually, Fairpoint, Justice League, Spider-Man, X-Men, all the superhero stuff.
		They're all serialized and they're not comedy.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		I guess I should have said...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Justice League isn't serialized.
		It's partly, but the original X-Men series in 97 was.
		They brought it back.
		So Disney...
		And actually, yeah, What If?
		Disney's Marvel What If?
		I think it's three seasons, and it's 3D cartoon-style animation.
		Anyway, we're talking about cartoons now.
		We're going over time.
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matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		Am I Racist is streaming right now on Daily Wire.
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phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It's hilarious.
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unidentified		Absolutely.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		I'm Alotta Liahu.
		I'm a journalist here at TimCast.
		This whole week's kind of been unreal.
		The Daily Wire crew and the whole team here has been awesome.
		Tim, thank you so much for bringing us out here.
		That's pretty much it.
		I wanted to ask Matt Walsh, did you ever get an answer to Are You Racist?
		Did anybody ever...
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		He is, yeah.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		I mean, yeah, I got an answer.
		That was an easy one for him to answer.
		The answer was yes, it turns out.
unidentified		Oh, okay.
elad eliahu ▲ ● ▼		Gee whiz.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And also, one last thing.
		It looks like Charlie Kirk shouted you out, Matt, saying that we need to recognize Matt Walsh for his role on the landslide.
		Matt courageously and effectively set out on a one-man mission to expose the trans mafia at great personal risk to himself with the film What is a Woman?
		And then he shows this data showing that the...
		It greatly informed people on what was going on.
		Yeah, so congratulations again, sir.
matt walsh ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's a high compliment coming from Charlie Kirk, of course.
		I mean, if you were to point to individual people outside of the Trump campaign, or Trump himself responsible for Trump's victory, I mean, Charlie Kirk is like at the top of that list.
		I mean, that's...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Well, thanks for hanging out.
		It's been a whole lot of fun.
		We are going to...
		Oh, Phil's here.
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