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Media RAMPS UP Anti Trump Rhetoric, LIES About Liz Cheney Comments w/ Chrissie Mayr | Timcast IRL
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unidentified
Thank you.
phil labonte
Thank you.
In some comments that Donald Trump made when he was talking to Tucker Carlson, he was criticizing Liz Cheney's war hawk positions, and they have managed to spin it.
Along the lines of the old bloodbath comment or the very fine people hoax.
We're going to talk a little bit about Arizona's Attorney General has decided that these comments are worth looking into, which is more of the ridiculousness that we've come to expect from the left.
Also, the jobs number from October has been...
Edited or revised from 100,000 all the way down to 12,000, which has become standard.
I don't know the last time they actually had an accurate jobs number or a jobs number that was revised up.
It's always this big number and it always gets revised down, so that's kind of become the normal thing.
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We've got Chrissy Mayer.
unidentified
Hello!
It's so good to be here.
phil labonte
Who are you and what do you do?
unidentified
I'm a comedian.
I'm a chemically enhanced ginger.
God, that was corny.
Damn it, damn it.
No, we miss you, Tim.
I bought a gift for the baby.
There's a stuffed chicken in here, a tiny skateboard, beanies for the girl, and a little book about skating for babies.
Um...
Yes.
seamus coughlin
That's adorable.
unidentified
Good to be here.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, that's awesome.
phil labonte
James is here.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, I'm here.
It's great to be back.
Only a couple days away to the election.
We're all very exhausted, but we gotta keep pushing through.
It's the final hour here.
Get out there and vote.
Get out there and vote, boys.
That's all I'm gonna say tonight.
That's my messaging.
The men are not voting enough.
You need to get out there.
unidentified
We cannot let women tell us who the president's gonna be, boys.
seamus coughlin
Get out there and do it!
And Brett.
phil labonte
Hi, Brett.
brett dasovic
Yo, what's going on, guys?
By the way, guys, I'm the host of Pop Culture Crisis, Monday through Friday at 3 p.m.
Eastern Standard Time right here on YouTube.
How many beanies did you get for Tim?
unidentified
Just three.
brett dasovic
Just three?
I mean, that's enough.
Early on, that's enough.
unidentified
A black one to match his dad, and then a pink and a white one.
brett dasovic
Perfect.
unidentified
Her dad.
phil labonte
Her dad, yeah.
brett dasovic
Kellen is here, too.
unidentified
Yeah, I'm running the buttons tonight.
Serge is taking the night off, but I joked that the B team is here today.
phil labonte
Yeah.
unidentified
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phil labonte
I'm a double D. From CNN, Trump says war hawk Liz Cheney should be...
I don't know if I want to say that.
An escalation of violent rhetoric against his opponents.
Donald Trump has said former rep Liz Cheney is a war hawk who should be...
unidentified
Look, I wasn't calling her a war hawk.
I was calling her a war-tog.
phil labonte
As he raged against one of the most prominent intra-party critics while campaigning Thursday night in Arizona.
She's a radical war hawk.
Let's put her with a rifle standing there with nine barrels shooting at her okay.
That's what Trump said.
That is not from us.
The former president said at a campaign event in Glendale with former Fox News host Tucker Carlson.
Let's see how she feels about it, you know, when the guns are trained on her face.
Good lord.
It's typical of the left to spin the things that Donald Trump says.
Like I said in the intro, this is very reminiscent of the very fine people's hoax, very fine people hoax, reminiscent of the bloodbath comment.
Yeah, what is he going to do?
unidentified
Just like we were talking before, be on defense all the time?
He can't live his life just constantly worried of how everything he says is going to be taken out of context.
Because that's going to be really stifling for him.
brett dasovic
He'll still find a way anyways.
unidentified
It doesn't matter.
He's always shooting from the hip.
At this point, after this many years, you know who Donald Trump is.
brett dasovic
No, actually, I don't think that's true.
So one of the things that I found most interesting...
phil labonte
You were going to say I don't know who he is.
brett dasovic
No, no.
So one of the things that I found most interesting was what we're in right now is a lot of people who dislike him don't actually like to consume...
They like to read the headlines.
They don't like to read the articles and they definitely don't watch his speeches beyond sound clips.
So a lot of people who did take the time to tune into the Joe Rogan episode who didn't know him long form said, I can't believe how the people were framing this guy.
He seems so normal compared to everybody else.
So you could actually say that a lot of what this country has gone through since 2016, it really is because poor framing and people not willing to look into it's one giant misunderstanding and we are all suffering because of it.
phil labonte
How much do you think it's actually poor framing, though?
Like, I understand that he does talk...
brett dasovic
It's evil framing from media, not poor.
phil labonte
Well, I was thinking more of Donald Trump's actual phrasing, right?
So he could, like you were saying, he could really be walking on eggshells all the time and be very, very, very careful.
That would be very out of character for Donald Trump.
Do you think that if he were more careful, there would be more charitable takes from the left?
It's not my sense that that would happen.
I think that they would still be looking for any way that they can attack him.
Because we've heard, you know, Donald Trump is bad, but if Donald Trump dies...
J.D. Vance is worse!
J.D. Vance is already like mega Hitler, Justin K. They've already started to plant the seed for that.
So do you guys get the same sense?
brett dasovic
No, it'll be just as bad.
It was the same way when Ron DeSantis was considered a real contender for him, right?
The media went into overdrive working to frame him in the same way.
unidentified
Oh yeah, they're like, look at him!
He's wearing high heels!
He's wearing high-heeled cowboy boots!
brett dasovic
That actually was funny.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, I mean, the whole situation's ridiculous, and this is something they've been doing non-stop since 2015.
Every time the man says anything, they try to interpret it in the worst possible way.
This goes back to long before Trump as well.
It's just that Trump speaks in a bit more of a bombastic way than most Republican politicians, so there's more for them to try to pick from and twist.
So with Romney, when he was basically begging the left-wing mob to accept him, I have binders full of women applying for these jobs.
What he's basically doing is giving assent to their narrative.
Yes, we should prioritize this DEI initiative of making sure women are given priority in the workplace when we hire them over men.
And they made fun of him for that because he said it in a clumsy way.
And they tried to make him out to be a sexist over it.
So, look, there's no way Trump can avoid being taken out of context at this point.
And what they're doing here is really egregious.
Ultimately, it's on them.
I don't think there's anything he can do to stop it.
I really don't.
brett dasovic
No, once you put him on defense, he then actually loses support from his own side because one of the reasons so many people like him is because he does unabashedly go against what they're saying without fault, right?
So if you turn that on its head and he becomes a completely different person, he not only loses support from his own side, the media is not going to frame it any better.
Nobody on the left is going to suddenly accept him.
That's never going to happen.
He is on his only path forward.
The problem is it only gets worse from here because the media is never going to change.
phil labonte
Yeah, that's kind of my sense as well.
Especially, like, Seamus made a really, really good point.
The most milquetoast of Republicans, the most vanilla, least offensive Republican that you could possibly come up with, Mitt Romney.
You know, he said the binder's full of women comment, and that was spun to be a sexist, terrible thing.
And I think there was something about his dog that happened to him.
seamus coughlin
Oh, he had a dog.
Well, so he had a dog named Seamus.
unidentified
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
Was it really?
phil labonte
I'm so glad that I brought that up.
seamus coughlin
When your name is Seamus, people, you'll be like, hey, my name's Seamus.
They'll be like, oh, I had a dog named Seamus.
It is such a common dog name.
They're like, I had a dog named Seamus.
I'm like, great.
brett dasovic
Imagine being named Max.
I'm sure everybody knows that.
seamus coughlin
Oh, dude, Max.
unidentified
Or Fido.
seamus coughlin
Fido.
brett dasovic
Yes, all of the men named Fido.
seamus coughlin
Don't name your kid Rex.
It's going to be awful for him.
But yeah, there was somebody like his family put the dog on the roof.
I don't know.
But leftists will post clips.
Not leftists actually, to be fair, more shit libs.
But they'll post clips of the 2012 election cycle and the 2008 election cycle.
And they'll try to juxtapose how kind and really in many ways like acquiescent people McCain and Romney were to Obama as their opponent.
But then they never followed up with, like, maybe we should be introspective about the way we treated those men.
Like, they were very, very kind.
We still called them Nazis.
We still said they were horrible people.
Like, we still claimed they were going to destroy America.
They claimed that Mitt Romney, like, fired a woman.
It was personally responsible for her dying of cancer or something like that.
There was just so much nonsense.
unidentified
They gave her the cancer.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, exactly.
There was so much horrific attacking of Romney, who I don't like, right?
But then you just go, okay, so they're just going to keep attacking Trump.
There's never going to be any introspection.
When Vance comes along, if he becomes president, it's going to be he's even worse than Trump was.
And Trump was a civil Republican and blah, blah, blah.
unidentified
What is Mitt short for?
Mittens?
Mittens.
phil labonte
It's actually Mittens.
unidentified
Mittens Romney?
phil labonte
I mean, it's a cat name.
I mean, but I can't...
I mean, I don't know how you end up with that name as a man.
brett dasovic
As a politician, who did he represent?
seamus coughlin
Mitt Romney?
He's from Massachusetts, right?
phil labonte
He was from Massachusetts.
seamus coughlin
He was Mormon, though.
phil labonte
He was the governor of Massachusetts, then he was the senator from Utah.
brett dasovic
It does somehow have that type of good old boy type name to it.
Mittens?
No, Mitt.
Mitt itself.
It's catchy and you remember it.
phil labonte
Fair enough.
unidentified
How many Mitts are there?
phil labonte
I still feel like Mittens is a loser.
unidentified
Great cat name.
brett dasovic
It's probably short for Mitchell.
unidentified
So is Liz Cheney just a full-blown Democrat at this point?
Because I feel like this is kind of...
phil labonte
Aren't they all?
brett dasovic
It's a uniparty.
unidentified
Hey, I'll trade Tulsi for Liz any day.
seamus coughlin
His name's Willard.
brett dasovic
Willard?
seamus coughlin
His name is Willard Mitt.
Mitt's the middle name.
phil labonte
Mitt is...
seamus coughlin
I didn't know that.
The name is literally Willard.
brett dasovic
So he wouldn't go by Will Romney.
He's like, Mitt will stick better in people's brains.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
brett dasovic
But to your point earlier, look, they put together these photo montages now of all of the rallies where they've called every Republican a Nazi for the last however many decades.
You're not going to get away from it.
So acquiescing to whatever they want, whether it's their feigning of civility, we all understand that that does not matter because they do not care about hypocrisy.
They will absolutely do all of the things that they claim that you are doing.
And they will win because the media will frame the narrative and whoever frames the narrative for the largest group of people, meaning those who are following mainstream media, whether it's on social media or the few people who are left watching terrestrial television, you cannot get away from that.
And it's almost impossible to reframe a person's position.
Right now, it's impossible to reframe Donald Trump as a good person to people who otherwise thought differently of him.
The best thing you can do would be to focus on the economy and what he can do for the economy.
And campaign against the fact that Kamala's track record doesn't work within the White House right now.
But most people just don't want to have that discussion.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, exactly.
unidentified
I'm sick of the Nazi comments too, but I think come hell or Heil water, I support him.
seamus coughlin
Well, it's really, it is something to be sick of.
I mean, great pun, by the way.
I don't want to just skip over that.
But the reality is this has been going on for longer than we even realize.
I was doing a podcast the other day, The Loopcast, with Catholic Votes, The Loop.
And what?
The Loop?
No!
unidentified
Is this a P. Diddy podcast?
seamus coughlin
Loop.
Like keeping people in the loop.
Sorry, I screamed.
What they pointed out was that literally, all the way back to Eisenhower, there are people on record calling Dwight Eisenhower a Nazi.
All the way back in the 50s!
All the way back in the 1950s!
This is not a new thing.
phil labonte
I don't have it pulled up or access to it right now, but I've seen the old propaganda videos from what I assume were conservatives talking about how the communists were going to attack regular Americans and they've been saying, call them Nazis.
They've been saying, call them fascists.
That's been the playbook of the far left, which...
The actual communists, that has been their playbook for the entire time that there has been, you know, ever since post-World War II, right?
So at the end of World War II, that was the modus operandi of the far left, and it has not changed one bit since then.
brett dasovic
Well, it's actually gotten worse now because of social media and the ability to reach more people through the internet.
unidentified
internet.
Well, you know, we had an interview with Piers Morgan a couple of days ago and Nina Turner was on the panel.
It was supposed to be a debate.
It was actually a great conversation.
And Nina was like, listen, she was slamming Democrats.
She's like, you can't keep saying Nazi.
You can't keep saying he's the boogeyman because when the real bad guys come around, you've taken all the power out of that word.
That's right.
It's a disservice to the whole country of the United States.
seamus coughlin
Well, it's also one of these issues where the further we get away—you're right, it's happening more and more often, and part of that is because the further we get away from World War II, the easier it is to mythologize that time period.
So what they can do is say things like, well, if you don't support transgenderism, you're a Nazi.
every single man who fought in the second world war would have opposed transgenderism if it was an issue that was brought to their attention they would have gone that's disgusting right that's not something that they were fighting to try to preserve and so at the time if they were to call you know uh you a nazi for not going along with the insane left-wing program of today when world war ii veterans were still uh living and vocal there's very few of them left they'd come out and say well that's obviously insane i fought the nazis and that's not what i believed everyone who fought
the nazis would be considered far left by the modern democratic party standards and i'm including the communist russians in that like every single person who did anything to defeat the nazis with a tiny handful of exceptions would be extremely far to the right by the modern democratic party far right not far left like oh did i say left i'm sorry no hold on rewind it i take it back i take it back no yes i'm exhausted but I take it back far right.
unidentified
I'm just imagining all these old men like, look, I fought so hard for the right for you to keep your own penis, son.
seamus coughlin
So don't...
unidentified
Get in with this hogwash.
phil labonte
Don't slice that off.
I'm not going to a new story, but this is connected to the story that we've been talking about.
Arizona's Attorney General's office probing Trump's violent comments about Liz Cheney.
The left is continuing the lawfare.
To use against Donald Trump.
Arizona Attorney General Chris Mays said Friday that her office is investigating whether former President Donald Trump's violent remarks about former GOP Representative Liz Cheney broke the law.
I've already asked my criminal division chief to start looking at that statement, analyzing it for whether it qualifies as a death threat under Arizona's laws.
Mays, a Democrat, shocker, said during a taping of Sunday Square Off on 12 News in Phoenix, I'm not prepared to say whether it was or it wasn't.
But it is not helpful as we prepare for our election and as we try to make sure that we keep the peace at our polling places and in our state, Mays told the NBC affiliates.
Now this is obviously ridiculous.
Anyone that listens to Donald Trump's actual statement hears him say that Liz Cheney should have a rifle.
Like, he's talking about putting her into a combat situation.
It's the old chicken hawk argument, which we've heard a million times.
Code Pink used to do it.
All the time, they used to say, oh, George Bush should go fight the war in Iraq and send George Bush's kids and send Dick Cheney's kids.
This was standard fare from the left.
Absolutely, totally normal from the left up until Donald Trump says it.
And then now we're talking about maybe this is a violation of some kind of fabricated law because in the United States, we do have the freedom of speech, but It's protected by the First Amendment, and it is abundantly clear that that was not a threat.
There was no threat contained in there at all.
unidentified
This is meant to just rile up the left, because this is not getting through to anybody on the right.
phil labonte
I agree that it's meant to rile up the left, but I also think that if they could, they would throw him in jail or do something to...
Yes, you're right.
I agree.
It is meant to rile up the left.
But give them the power, give them the authority, and they will throw their political opponents in jail.
They did it with, what's his name?
unidentified
Bannon.
What?
phil labonte
Yeah, Bannon.
The guy that did the whole voting meme thing.
I forget what his name is.
brett dasovic
And then they will have the ad.
phil labonte
Douglas Mackey, and when Jimmy Fallon makes a similar joke just the other night, and that's definitely not going to happen, these things are intended to cool, to put a blanket on the right's confidence in their ability to speak.
So I'm sorry for cutting you off.
unidentified
No, I had nothing important to say.
brett dasovic
Also recently they've been talking about how if he gets into office, he's going to use the law, the government against his enemies.
They are unashamed of the hypocrisy in their ability to do exactly what they say you are going to do and do it right in front of your eyes.
There's a reason why you court a low-info voting bloc.
That isn't going to look further into this because the ones that won't look into it are useful idiots and the rest of them are the truly evil ones who use your stupidity against your best interests.
seamus coughlin
Exactly.
I mean, they always do what they accuse you of doing.
I'm almost wondering if they're going to send Liz Cheney to fight in a war.
If Kamala wins, maybe she puts Liz on the front lines.
unidentified
When I read stuff like this, it's like, okay, you're either evil or you're stupid.
brett dasovic
No, they're evil.
unidentified
One or the other.
Because either you're so dumb you cannot see the context and see what he was actually saying, or you're evil and you're choosing to ignore the context.
That's the two options.
I think a lot of people, they don't want to put the time in to get the context.
Because that takes time to get the full context.
Who's going to sit down and watch all three hours of the Rogan podcast other than people that are like us, who it's our job to kind of know...
What's going on there?
brett dasovic
That's the point.
They use it against you.
They use the fact that the average everyday person has a busy life.
They've got a husband or wife.
They've got kids.
They've got a job.
They used to trust these organizations to take the relevant soundbites and create the proper context around something.
Now, there's a lot of discussions about whether news was ever really unbiased, and that's an interesting discussion in and of itself.
But that is used against them.
We know now that, what is it, 80% of journalists are Democrats, are registered Democrats, or it's even higher than that.
seamus coughlin
I think in the corporate press it's significantly higher.
brett dasovic
Okay, so the point being is that they use your inability to spend three hours against you, and that's compounded with the fact that people take emotional reactions to all of this.
And so the people who are posting these articles, the lawyer or the people who are in government who are pushing it, they're evil.
The rest are just stupid.
phil labonte
Michael Malice makes a great point, too, when he says, you know, the average person, if you try to tell them that the news is lying to them, like, they understand it in a similar fashion to if you told them that the weatherman is lying to them and not making a mistake, he's intentionally lying to you.
Why would the weatherman lie to me?
You know, why would the meteorologist just lie to me about what the weather's gonna be?
And so it seems so ridiculous to the average person who's not, you know, If you watch 20, 30 minutes of news a week, you're going to have only a wavetop kind of understanding.
And so it does seem completely out of left field.
What do you mean there?
Why would the news lie?
They're the news.
unidentified
But other than boomers and people waiting for flights, who is really watching legacy news anymore?
seamus coughlin
It's true.
I mean, it's a good point.
I think the medium's dying for a reason.
But what the legacy media is trying to do at this point is exert control over new media.
That's why we saw this hit piece published by the New York Times the other day there.
unidentified
Yep.
seamus coughlin
desperate because their grip on power is slipping away.
And so what they have to do is ensure that their vision for what should be printed, for what should be said for what's allowable is adopted by these major platforms.
So they're trying to use the power that they still have left to organize boycotts against new media platforms so that they can basically use the purse string to control.
unidentified
And they know that headlines really do still manipulate people by their feelings, which is such a powerful aspect of social media.
brett dasovic
It's not even about whether they're watching CNN or not, right?
It's whether me ma is posting the, the really, really incendiary Trump article in her Facebook mom group.
That's how you spread the anger far and wide.
unidentified
I am Mima, by the way.
There you go.
That's me.
phil labonte
But I mean, we see it all the time with just totally fake stories like Donald Trump wants to ban abortion nationwide.
No matter how many times the man says...
unidentified
I wish he did.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, I wish he did.
He doesn't.
unidentified
Do it.
phil labonte
Sheamus is like, based!
seamus coughlin
I wish he did, but it's like they're lying about it.
phil labonte
Yeah.
And whether it be that or, I mean, there's any number of things, like Donald Trump in Project 2025.
He has no interest in Project 2025.
He had nothing to do with it.
But, and even though there's plenty in Project 2025 that it'd actually be really good for the country, people that have this understanding of it, because of the way that they're told things by the media, they have this understanding of it to be like, oh, this is how you get to the, what's it, the red dress...
brett dasovic
Handmaid's Tale.
phil labonte
Handmaid's Tale, yeah.
Phil was lying.
brett dasovic
He watches it all the time.
He just wanted to pretend like he hasn't.
seamus coughlin
Part of what's so funny about A Handmaid's Tale is the women all look very angry while wearing bonnets, which is just a comedic image.
Just seeing like an angry person in a bonnet like meh.
brett dasovic
Somebody messes with the tassels.
seamus coughlin
Something inherently funny about it.
It's such a goofy show.
brett dasovic
So where do you draw your ire in these situations, right?
So my anger is with the media, who has worked tirelessly to slander people for the last, well, decades upon decades, but especially the last 8 to 10 years.
But then you have to ask yourself, look, at a certain point, you're an adult.
You're responsible for the information that you...
You're responsible for the information that you're taking in every day, right?
So if you're going to yell at me about Project 2025, but you're not willing to do the five minutes worth of research it takes to go find the speech of him talking about, I don't even have to say you have to look for videos saying debunking it.
As if you're trying to not confirm your own bias.
Just go look for any speech of Donald Trump actually talking about it, and within five to ten minutes you will find at least one clip where he says, I have no interest in this, I don't know what this is about, but they're not willing to do that work.
So depending on the day, my anger goes between the journalists who actively lie for evil reasons and people who will not do any work to actually change or broaden their horizons on things that they tend to hold against us far more than we hold against them.
You are more likely to remain friends with your Democrat pals, your lefties, whatever.
That's never bothered me.
I can agree to disagree about anything.
But it's their inability to look into it at all, but yet hold it against you as if you're the problem.
unidentified
Don't look into it, but break up with your Trump-supporting boyfriend.
brett dasovic
There's something infuriating about that.
seamus coughlin
Well, I also want to point something else out, too.
If you all remember, it was about a year ago when Zelensky said two Americans had the audacity to say to us, if you don't keep funding our war effort, soon you're going to have to send your sons and daughters to fight for us.
So we have a foreign leader.
Telling us as a nation that our young men and women should be sent to fight in a war to die for his interests, but Donald Trump cracks a joke about Liz Cheney fighting in a war and they clutch their pearls.
That is just beyond what is allowable in terms of the Overton window or the discourse.
That's insulting.
It's shocking.
A foreign leader got on television and told you your sons and daughters should be sent to fight in a war that has nothing to do with you.
But Donald Trump says this woman who is voting in favor of wars, whose father voted in favor of wars and got tens if not hundreds of thousands of people killed should probably have to fight in a war too.
Oh, you can't say that.
No, no, no.
Wars are things that people we have contempt for and don't care whether they live or die are sent to fight in.
You don't say that about a political leader.
unidentified
Don't we have troops overseas?
Don't we have people in Ukraine?
phil labonte
In Ukraine, there are probably American volunteers.
There are no official U.S. servicemen in the U.S. in Ukraine.
unidentified
Um...
brett dasovic
That will be in the intelligence reports two decades from now.
unidentified
What about service them?
Like trans people?
phil labonte
I don't think that there's a lot of Americans that are direct action thems.
I think that most of the direct action Americans are still mostly guys.
There's not a lot of combat thems.
seamus coughlin
No.
unidentified
I like services.
phil labonte
No door kickers that are they, you know?
All right, so moving on to the next story.
The U.S. economy added just 12,000 jobs in October, impacted by hurricanes, Boeing strike.
Now, this is rounded down or re-adjusted from 100,000.
So...
Less than, it's just a little bit more than 10% of what they initially estimated.
And it is coming out right before the election.
I mean, I'm a little surprised that it came out when it did, but then again, it is Friday and...
brett dasovic
What time did the story come out?
seamus coughlin
They don't want this to catch on.
phil labonte
It came out this morning.
brett dasovic
I'm surprised they didn't wait until 5.
phil labonte
I kind of feel the same way.
But I don't know the last time that there was a revision up.
So job creation in October slowed to its weakest pace since late 2020 as the impacts of storms in the southeast and a significant labor impasse dented the employment picture.
Nonfarm payrolls increased by 12,000 for the month, down sharply from September and below the Dow Jones estimate of 100,000.
The Bureau of Labor Statistics reported Friday.
In what had already been expected to be a downbeat report, October posted the smallest gain since December 2020.
Remember what December 2020 was.
I mean, we were in the throes of COVID. This doesn't speak well for the next...
Six months, what the next administration is walking into.
So personally, I don't have a lot of faith in the left's economic plans.
They've proven to be less than stellar in the past four years.
I would like to see Donald Trump or I would, and not even that I think Donald Trump is the guy that's actually writing the, the economic plans for the, the U S if he were to be the president, but I would like to see conservatives because conservatives, uh, economic plans tend to be, uh, more successful.
unidentified
They don't need to talk about what they're going to do for the economy because the economy is great.
Have you not listened to Don Lemon?
brett dasovic
I keep hearing that consistently.
unidentified
Yeah, Don Lemon said, like, what do you mean the economy is bad?
Grocery prices are affordable.
What?
You must be stupid.
It's the difference between being a grower or a shower.
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
Well, the great thing about the economy is that, you know, when it's doing well, you have to tell everyone that it's doing well or they won't notice.
I watch the news every day to try to figure out whether the economy is good because I can't tell based on my day-to-day life.
unidentified
You can tell at the grocery store?
Really?
seamus coughlin
I'm like, is it harder to afford things?
Is it easier to make money?
unidentified
Am I broke?
seamus coughlin
Yeah, am I broke right I know, I thought, I thought, I thought I was, and then I, you know, Don Lemon told me everything's great.
brett dasovic
And it'll be worse, too, because historically we know that when presidents enter office now, there's usually an insane amount of executive orders that get put into play.
Certainly the killing of the pipeline after the last one, stopping of funding for the border wall, it will only clamp down and get worse.
But the biggest, the thing that's funniest about this is they're like, vote for economic change by voting for Kamala Harris.
And then you're like, but like, she's already not.
I mean, I know she's not the president, but like, they're already there.
They're like...
Don't think about it.
Just do it.
phil labonte
Yeah, I'm not entirely convinced that the new administration would have significantly different economic policies.
brett dasovic
Mark Cuban thinks you should vote for her, so it must be a good idea.
unidentified
She brings her own experiences to the job.
phil labonte
I mean, she's only been attorney general of California and a senator, right?
Those have been her jobs.
I don't know that she's done anything.
She's never created a job.
unidentified
She worked at McDonald's.
Allegedly.
brett dasovic
Wait, was that photoshopped actually?
phil labonte
That picture was photoshopped.
seamus coughlin
It was photoshopped.
I believe it was a woman who had died.
phil labonte
Yeah, it's a sad story.
When you actually read the story, it's heartbreaking.
unidentified
I mean, all her jobs are...
and jobs.
Yes.
phil labonte
So, I think that because of the things that she has said in the past, now I know that she's walked all of her positions back.
She said that I don't support this, I don't support that, I don't support this.
All of these positions, these economic positions that she had been...
Endorsing in 2019 when she was running for president on her own ticket, all of these terrible economy-destroying positions, she's walked them back.
But I imagine that were she to get into office...
There would be at least some kind of policies that resemble those because I don't believe for a second that she actually has pro-growth policy.
The opportunity economy that she's talking about?
She's not talking about policy that's actually going to make it easier for the job producers to produce jobs.
And as much as the left hates to hear it, the people that make jobs, they're the millionaires and billionaires.
So if you have a policy that's attacking millionaires and billionaires, those people are going to tighten their belt and they're going to make cuts or they're going to not hire people.
They're going to not invest because the government's coming after their profit margins.
So if the profit margin gets smaller, they're not going to be hiring people.
And that means that there will not be new jobs for people that are looking for entry-level positions or what have you.
brett dasovic
Well, look what happened in California.
If you want to look for a model that would run similar at the national scale, when they implemented the wage increase for fast food workers in California and they immediately say, oh, we're going to automate this, we're going to automate that, we're going to fire as many people as we can, they never understand that you have to look to the way these states are run.
If you want a Look, at least a shadow of a look of what it will look like on the national level.
Now, obviously, it wouldn't be implemented further, but the thing is, what's odd is the closer you get to election, the less you should believe most of the policies that they start pushing because they're starting to get desperate.
I mean, look, they're campaigning for white dudes again.
There's white dudes for Harris, right?
phil labonte
You're talking about deporting people now.
brett dasovic
They've ignored white dudes for the last, you know, 10 years, but suddenly they need to win an election.
They don't have a white guy running, which automatically...
unidentified
How is she going to have money for all this?
How is she going to have money for trans inmates to grow a penis on their arm while they're in jail?
How is she going to have money for giving black guys, they get a special...
seamus coughlin
Crypto.
unidentified
Yeah, they get crypto, and then new homeowners get...
And we still haven't...
Did Biden pay back everybody's loans?
No, for college.
That never happened.
seamus coughlin
It's just, the level of pandering on that was so weird.
I had never, I had never in my entire time on this planet, in my entire time paying attention to politics, I never heard anyone say, the primary issue for me is ensuring that black men have their crypto protected.
I never heard anyone say that.
unidentified
If they're gonna have crypto, they should also have bloodtoe for the other gang.
Both gangs.
seamus coughlin
But it's like, we never at any point in time, it's not like black people are coming together and be like, where was the systemic racism in crypto?
This is not a thing.
This is not a thing.
But the campaign is just trying to promise, as you said, they're just trying to promise people whatever they think will get them to vote for.
unidentified
It almost seems like she knows she's going to lose.
Like, this is a campaign that a candidate would run just to keep up with the appearances.
Everything, well, the lack of what she says at all these speeches and podcast appearances she's doing, right?
Everything's, I'm from a middle-class family.
Like, she's kind of just appeasing the donors.
It almost seems like she doesn't think she can do it.
phil labonte
The thing that she has that seems to be the most compelling is abortion.
brett dasovic
Yeah, she wants to let the women kill themselves.
phil labonte
Yeah, and even that she has to lie about because the federal government isn't going to be doing anything.
brett dasovic
Because it's not on the ballot at all?
phil labonte
Well, not only that, but the federal government, I mean, the Supreme Court said that the federal government can't make a nationwide law about it, that it has to go to states.
unidentified
It's so disgusting the way she'll frame it in a rally and she'll be like, this is about, you know, you get to plan your family the way you want.
You need to have the freedom.
I'm like, you're talking about abortion.
phil labonte
You're not talking about planning a family.
You're talking about killing a baby.
unidentified
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
Literally, there's this page, Kamala HQ, have you seen?
And they will just post flagrant misinformation just constantly.
They will just, like, make things up.
And they had a line where it was – I can't remember if it was J.D. Vance.
And to be fair, it might have been an adjacent account, another one of these left-wing accounts.
But they were talking about how Republicans are going to try to track women's menstrual cycles and have a tana base, which is the most – Alright, there's an easy way of determining what life in America is going to start to look like since Roe v.
Wade was overturned.
And that is the 200 years of American history prior to Roe being decided.
They were tracking women's menstrual cycles in 1972 and earlier.
unidentified
If you want a red wave, you have to track our menstrual cycles.
brett dasovic
Maybe they're just trying to help them out.
They're like, look, if you can pay attention to the women in your life, if you need to know when your wife is going to be upset, you got to track the menstrual cycle.
They're just trying to help.
unidentified
I don't need to track anything.
I can tell when she's being a see you next Tuesday.
brett dasovic
She's eating a bunch of ice cream again.
I'm screwed.
seamus coughlin
It's just so creepy.
And it's like they're going to have a pregnancy database to determine if they are going to throw you in jail for a miscarriage.
It's like, shut up!
You're lying.
You're lying.
Nobody.
But I shouldn't say nobody believes it because some handful of people actually think it'll happen.
unidentified
A lot.
seamus coughlin
Dude, here's a story.
There's a story that was circulating on X the other day.
phil labonte
I have to interject.
A lot of people believe it because they want to believe it.
seamus coughlin
Exactly.
Sorry.
Sorry, I know I don't want to dead name X.
Yeah, but so there was a story that was circulating around X that you could tell some lefty wanted to stick.
He really wanted to become a story.
And it was about this woman in Arizona who had the police knock on her door because she had a miscarriage and they arrested her.
And so I was like, oh, interesting.
So let me read this article and the article surrounding it.
What had happened was...
This woman...
According to the police officer who arrested her, the police officer who arrested her believed that the child was born alive and then the woman killed it and hid the body.
But regardless of whether that happened, because the investigation didn't prove that that happened or not, but what they said was this woman was smoking meth while pregnant.
She was past the point of viability.
The autopsy showed that the unborn child was between 28 and 32 weeks, which if you want to look at what a 28 to 32 week old unborn child It's a full-blown baby.
It's a full-blown baby at that point.
It really is.
They survive outside of the womb at that point.
And also, the icing on the cake.
It happened in 2018 before Roe was overturned that this woman got arrested.
So the whole story was just nonsense.
And you hear this all the time.
Almost every single time there's a story in the media about a woman being investigated for a miscarriage.
It's like they found a dumpster baby.
They literally found a dead baby.
And then they have to investigate to determine was this a stillbirth or did this woman give birth to a live baby and then kill it?
But the police do not investigate miscarriages.
It's complete insanity.
But they will just make things up.
phil labonte
Yeah, I feel like people that are at least center-right or to the right are very aware of that.
I think the difficulty is convincing the average person, the average person that doesn't have a significant news diet, convincing them that that's the case.
Because again, I go back to Michael Malice's statement, trying to convince someone that the weatherman's lying to you.
unidentified
Well, Kamala's got such a huge base of college-educated female voters.
It's like, she's preaching to the choir with that.
It's like, oh, you don't want to be tied down with a pregnancy, do you?
You've got a lot of brunches left in you, ladies.
brett dasovic
Well, or all the celebrities who talk about, I wouldn't have been able to have my career if I hadn't had an abortion when I was younger.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
That's pretty horrible, I think.
seamus coughlin
And I think that's disgusting and terrible.
But on some level, it's like it's more honest than what they continue to say right now, which is, well, if we don't have abortion bans, all of these women are going to die.
And it's just a lie.
It's not true.
They'll make these stories up.
They'll fabricate information.
They'll leave out all of the women who died from having abortions before Roe was overturned.
But the center of the bullseye for them is, yeah, we want to just be able to discard with human life when it's not convenient for us.
brett dasovic
Also a story that's framed to be that terrifying plays into the villain-esque role that they've created for Donald Trump in Four Republicans.
So there was this meme going around.
It was like Trump as Thanos.
And I was like, look, this is the problem is you can't separate how you look at a Marvel villain.
Because first of all, there's like endless interviews of lame movie producers and writers who are like, oh, Donald Trump was the inspiration for this character or Elon Musk was the inspiration for this character.
They can no longer separate rightly the difference between actual politicians who are trying to enact some type of governmental policy and weird Nazis and war criminals, right?
Because they actually have framed the war criminals as the good guys because they're the part of the Uniparty now.
So it plays into all of their deluded fantasies that there's this evil that they're trying to stamp out.
phil labonte
Right.
Red Skull and Jordan Peterson.
seamus coughlin
Oh my gosh, yeah.
phil labonte
And Jordan Peterson is, again, he's very, very mild.
Like, he's not even...
seamus coughlin
A full-blown Nazi.
You know, you never heard Jordan Peterson speak?
phil labonte
He's a total Nazi, that guy.
He's such a mild-mannered, you know, Canadian, so right off the bat, he's extremely polite.
You know, he's not going to be an aggressive dude.
He never was.
The only thing that he...
The only reason people know who he is is because he was like, I'm not going to say those words.
brett dasovic
It's also Elon Musk.
It's what they've done to Elon Musk as well.
What's really funny is there was an interview with Robert Downey Jr.
who talked about Elon Musk cosplaying as Tony Stark.
I'm like, no, you're cosplaying as Tony Stark.
Elon Musk is actually Tony Stark.
That's hilarious.
unidentified
He's actually making rocks.
brett dasovic
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
It just goes to show, as I mentioned earlier, even Ike Eisenhower, and I'm sure people before him were compared to Hitler or compared to the Nazis.
And yeah, you look at Jordan Peterson as if he's out there like, I'm just asking questions about racial superiority, man.
I'm just curious.
unidentified
Clean your damn room.
I mean, the Nazis did.
They were tidy.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, but what he points out...
phil labonte
That was Hugo Boss, I thought.
unidentified
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
Well, that's the thing.
Actually, Jordan Peterson's room is very messy, so maybe he couldn't be a Nazi.
Yeah, right.
This is the other thing that they'll do is they'll take things that were normal in every culture throughout all of history.
So just make some insane thing up.
Just make up an insane policy right now.
phil labonte
If you don't clean your room, then you have to go to a re-education camp.
seamus coughlin
All right.
Let's just say the left proposed that for whatever reason.
And then someone was like, well, I'm against that policy.
You know what other country didn't have that policy?
Nazi Germany.
Nazi Germany.
They'll try to bring everything back to that.
brett dasovic
Like saying like, oh, Trump held a rally at Madison Square Garden.
You know what else happened at Madison Square Garden?
A WWE event.
Nope.
Nazis.
seamus coughlin
They'll be like, did you know that like transgenderism wasn't accepted in Nazi Germany?
It wasn't accepted anywhere for all of history.
It wasn't accepted in the USSR. It was never accepted anywhere until five minutes ago when you started forcing it.
unidentified
You have to like it and you have to hook up with them whether you like it or not.
phil labonte
Stalin killed a lot of gay people.
seamus coughlin
Stalin just, yeah, he killed a lot of people.
He killed a lot of people.
But yeah, you're right.
But they try to turn it into any kind of morally conservative or traditionally conservative position equals Nazism.
It's just ridiculous.
brett dasovic
Also, it's funny because it does pull it back, not to pull it back to Hollywood again, but you mentioned Stalin.
So we've got like endless movies about Nazis.
We've got endless movies about Hitler.
It's been covered ad nauseum for every decade for however many years.
But the problem is they don't actually make a lot of interesting movies or stories about communists at all.
So they don't have an analog to anything else other than if I disagree with you, you're a Nazi.
unidentified
Why is that red?
brett dasovic
Because Hollywood was always red.
phil labonte
Because Hollywood is full of communism.
seamus coughlin
Yes, it is.
unidentified
You've never sounded more like George Carlin than just now.
seamus coughlin
George Carlin would have to throw some rhymes in there.
Oh my gosh.
Have you seen that meme?
This might upset some fans, but there's this great meme of what George Carlin would be like today, but it's just people speculating that he would have just fallen in line with the shit lift.
phil labonte
Yeah, I'm terrified.
seamus coughlin
Get the vaccine, everybody!
You want it!
brett dasovic
Just be happy you don't know.
seamus coughlin
Why are all these anti-maskers people whose faces you wouldn't want to see anyway?
unidentified
It's a big club and you're not in it.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, exactly.
phil labonte
You want to get in the club, you gotta wear the mask.
I am gonna wear the mask.
seamus coughlin
No, it's very sad.
We don't really talk about communism often enough, even though it's one of the most horrific ideologies that's existed historically.
And it's gotten to the point where whenever media of the Cold War era is created, they always depict the fear of communism as this silly fad that was nothing more than a moral panic, and it was totally overblown.
It's like, hold on a second.
People who were living In a world where an ideology had killed over a hundred million people, and one of the largest nations on the planet was governed by that ideology, and they had nukes!
Those people being concerned about communism were a bunch of rubes and fools, but you, living 80 years after the death of Hitler and the fall of Nazism, being concerned that everyone is a Nazi, makes you an enlightened intellectual, not a paranoid freak.
I'm sorry.
You are a paranoid freak if 80 years after the fall of Nazism, you're still concerned that there might be a Nazi around every corner, but you think that it's foolish to fear communism in an era where communism is still a governing force in the world.
phil labonte
I'm sold, Seamus.
I am sold.
seamus coughlin
You're anti-communist now.
phil labonte
Absolutely.
seamus coughlin
I finally convinced Phil to do that.
unidentified
I did not see that coming.
phil labonte
Oh, come on.
Alright, anyway, so, yeah, we were talking about the jobs number.
seamus coughlin
Sorry, yeah.
phil labonte
We got awesomely sidetracked to dumping on communism, and I think that's a positive thing.
seamus coughlin
It is a positive thing.
phil labonte
So why don't we go ahead to something a little more light.
Busted!
The inside story of how the Kamala Harris campaign manipulates Reddit and breaks the rules to control the platform.
Now, I know that there's going to be people that are going to say, oh, there's people that aren't aware of what Reddit's like, and they're going to say, that's terrible, that's a bad thing, it's more of the same.
But if anyone's familiar with Reddit and the way the mods behave, it is an absolute leftist mess.
It is atrocious the way they got rid of the Donald Trump Reddit just because people are here saying nice things about Donald Trump.
We ain't having that!
So from The Federalist, for years, many have speculated that Democrat political candidates may be filling social media with fake posts to deceive the public and make their campaigns and causes seem more popular than they are.
These claims have often been dismissed by the left, citing that Democrat voters are already more likely to be on the Internet compared to their not as tech savvy Republican counterparts.
Yeah, and don't you know Republicans are dumb?
seamus coughlin
Republicans totally dominate the meme game online.
Like, most independent media is right-leading.
That's what they're always complaining about.
phil labonte
I mean, I'm on board with you.
Again, you sold me already.
This would suggest that the constant flood of left-leaning content on websites such as Reddit was merely a reflection of the user base.
However, many people simply couldn't shake the feeling that something was just off, especially in the run-up to major elections.
Despite my fervent belief that something was amiss, I never had any direct proof that Democrats were actively manipulating social media.
That all changed two weeks ago when ex-user Jesse Princey replied to one of my posts with a screenshot from a Discord server seemingly related to the Harris-Waltz campaign.
The post says that calling all Reddit users, the no-access team would love your help.
We're posting and boosting breaking informative and positive Harris and Waltz news, as well as campaign-generated memes and screenshots of Kamala Harris' HQ social media to turn the tide on Reddit from orange to blue.
We especially need people who can post at our politics, our news, our technology, and other large subreddits.
Join here, yada, yada, yada.
I don't think this is a surprise, and anyone that spends a decent amount of time on X might be familiar with the fact that there are some accounts that are far left that don't have a lot of followers, but they'll post something and it gets tons of shares and tons of likes.
And there's been a lot of speculation that it's people on Reddit.
They say, oh, this particular post.
Or, hey, guys.
Someone will go and they'll say, hey, I posted this.
Can you give me some boost this and blah, blah, blah.
And all the people from Reddit on these subreddits will go ahead and jump in there and like it and retweet it, etc., etc.
So what do you guys think?
Do you think that this is an obvious thing?
Do you think it's something that is worthwhile?
The right trying to counteract?
unidentified
It's a bit confusing because on one hand you have Zuckerberg apologizing for basically collaborating with, what was it, the CIA or the FBI? The Biden White House, I believe.
Yeah, the Biden White House, basically the way they squelched the laptop story.
That's all coming out, but you still have this, and this seems like they're up to the same old shenanigans as astroturfing.
brett dasovic
It's not just the astroturfing.
Their ground game is infinitely better than the rights.
There's a reason why if you get somebody knocking on your door to talk politics 90% of the time, it's somebody campaigning for a Democrat, right?
It's just the way that they move from group to group and get...
Interest up far better.
It may not be organic, but they coalesce around that idea and they spread their ideas wide that way.
So this goes on in Hollywood, too.
So they have people go into trailer reactions and things like that to promote movies and talk good about them.
It goes into comment sections for these things.
All this is is just that the internet that you're looking at now, which is supposed to be the public square, is artificially filled with people who are Either monetarily incentivized or, in this case, ideologically incentivized.
And they do organize on other forums and things like this.
This is just, in a lot of ways, them being better at getting their message out.
phil labonte
So it's like Jehovah's Witnesses.
We're the Catholics, Seamus.
We're the Catholics.
unidentified
Why can't the Republicans go door to door and be like, look, have you seen this meme?
seamus coughlin
You heard the news of Donald Trump?
That would not help.
Well, it's funny because they will call us members of a cult and they're the ones knocking on doors.
phil labonte
They're like, have you heard about Kamala Harris?
I'm not going to get into the whole James Lindsay stuff, but I honestly think that he's got his finger on the pulse when it comes to the cult aspect, the religious aspect of the left.
He's focusing on the right currently, but he's really brought to light a lot of the The esoteric kind of foundations of the statist ideas from the left and how without traditional religions, that doesn't mean that religion goes away.
It just means that it's filled.
There's a void that gets filled by something else.
seamus coughlin
Listen, part of what's really interesting about this, though, is that they felt a need to manipulate Reddit, which is already a very, very left-leaning platform.
That's the first thing that I thought was...
phil labonte
Do you think that's because it's a friendly base and they feel like they get more traction because they already have a foothold there?
seamus coughlin
I mean, it's possible, but you'd think that if a website was solidly on your side, you would try to interfere with another one.
I get your point, too, though.
brett dasovic
It would make more sense that they were trying to do it on X somehow?
seamus coughlin
Yeah, like, or X, or maybe Facebook.
unidentified
Maybe OnlyFans.
seamus coughlin
Like, a platform that's maybe more friendly to them than X, but is not as overtly left-wing as Reddit, because everyone, like, Reddit, it's basically Tumblr in terms of politics.
It's probably a little more establishment than...
unidentified
tumblr was but it's very very to the left when elon musk bought twitter it kind of like was a crack in the democrat social media like the dam yeah because democrats have controlled all of social every platform anything that was popular democrats had such control over and then elon buys twitter you get the twitter files right you get uh joe rogan is the top podcast and these are cracks in the dam and now the water's flowing out and people are seeing it and they're saying that's why reddit has become a problem they're like oh crap like we're getting more leaks and it's continuing continuing
and that's why i think at times it's like the stuff they post is so out of touch Because they didn't need to care before.
They had such control over it.
It didn't matter what they said.
It was going to be successful.
phil labonte
Again, not to reference Jordan Peterson too much, but he made a point that zero is a special number.
When you have no outlets that are promoting a particular perspective, then you have a very, very, very difficult time getting anything out.
All you need is one...
To actually make a dent and actually have significant effect.
And I think we saw that with Twitter becoming, you know, being X and Elon Musk taking over and the Twitter files, of course.
That was helped along by people like, you know, Sullenberger and by Barry Weiss and by...
Matt Taibbi and stuff because they're well-respected.
But it was the fact that X was the place where you could go and not get booted just because you deadnamed someone or something like that.
unidentified
Right.
And Trump used to...
He's new to addressing the whole, like, trans agenda and the sterilization stuff.
Like, he wasn't even talking about this in 2020.
But it's because of the pandemic and, like, moms in particular seeing, oh, this is what's going on in our kids' classrooms.
And they were able to voice their concerns to more conservative outlets.
And they kind of picked up, like, Daily Wire, like, ran with it.
And now it's like what you said, you just need one.
And then pretty soon everybody's covering these issues.
brett dasovic
It's one of the reasons why they work so hard to demonize alt media.
And in general, if you can discredit, it's why your leftist friends will tell you, well, you got your news from Fox.
It's not true.
Well, if you have any leftist friends, you know.
It's why they'll tell you, well, that story isn't true.
It's from Fox News.
That story is not true.
You got it off X. They're clearly just lying.
It's disinformation.
When you go to the source and you discredit the news outlet itself or the platform itself, it allows them also in a weird way to stay in their own echo chamber because they don't have to actually take into account anything you're saying because they can just say, well, they got it off this platform I don't agree with, therefore it must be wrong or lying.
unidentified
And they do that with the supporters of Trump too.
How could you vote for someone who has the support of these people or Fuentes or whoever's like the hated group DuJour?
Nope.
brett dasovic
So awkward silence.
unidentified
Awesome.
seamus coughlin
I mean, I will just tack on there.
Obviously, you know, Elon buying Twitter was a fantastic decision.
I'm really glad that he did that.
And it's just remarkable what having a single platform, at least being neutral to conservatives, has done for our movie.
phil labonte
There are people that will swear up and down that X is a right-wing platform now.
seamus coughlin
Not even close.
phil labonte
And it's not, because the left is in no way prevented from being there.
Media Matters, all those sites, and whoever has a left-wing bias, they are more than welcome to be there.
They do not get banned for having left-wing perspectives, for saying left-wing...
Talking points, making left-wing points at all, they do not get banned unless they break the actual rules.
brett dasovic
Plus they wanted the echo chamber, right?
So one of the issues was is they had the echo chamber before where they got to post whatever they wanted when it was Twitter and a lot of people who would be able to push back on what they were saying were already banned.
It's one of the reasons I think why Instagram tried to make threads a thing.
Remember threads?
And a lot of people who were left-wing media influencers were like, I'm going over to Threads!
And nobody followed.
phil labonte
Nobody cares.
unidentified
If you look at the rise of the popularity of podcasts, that's the top media right now.
People aren't watching MSNBC. They're watching the Joe Rogan experience.
It's because when you get a two-hour conversation, a three-hour conversation, it's raw.
It's not scripted.
It's not structured.
Anything can really happen.
And people crave the authenticity of that.
And so when you see these AstroTurf posts, you see Harry Sisson going on Twitter, and despite the worst interview in recent memory of any political candidate, he's like, oh my god, she hit it out of the park, right?
People are like, come on, man.
Come on.
This is so obvious what you're doing.
And people are sick of it.
You can only do it for so long.
If you look at the comments section of the Theo Vaughn episode where he interviewed J.D. Vance, people are like, wait, we were being told that this guy's so weird.
He's so normal.
He's the coolest guy.
I want to hang out with him.
phil labonte
Yeah, that was one of the things that I noticed most is the reaction to J.D. Vance actually getting out into the public space and the way that people said, wait a minute, we were told that this guy is so weird and he's the most normal dude ever.
And I think that you see the same thing probably.
I haven't looked at the comments from the Joe Rogan podcast, but I watched the...
The podcast with J.D. Vance on Rogan.
And, you know, he comes across as super average everyday guy.
He's very smart.
He comes across as a smart guy.
But he doesn't come across as in any way awkward or anything like that.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
phil labonte
Yeah, one time when you compare him to...
When you compare him to, you know, Walls, Walls actually comes across as weird.
unidentified
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, he put tampons in the boys' bathroom.
He's a very weird guy.
phil labonte
I'm friends with a lot of school shooters, the guy said.
And I'm sure that there's plenty of stuff that seems weird that's just him misspeaking because it's, you know, he's not used to being, I don't know, he's a governor, so he should be used to it, or was a governor, so he should be used to it, but maybe he's not used to that much attention from the whole country or whatever, but...
When you contrast with J.D. Vance, he comes across as weird and Vance seems perfectly normal.
unidentified
Well, that's exactly what I'm talking about.
The donut shop that you brought up, right?
It's scripted.
They're like, we're going to do this thing.
We're going to a donut shop.
You're going to seem normal like a regular dude.
And it turned out really weird.
It's so awful.
It was terrible.
And then he does the two-hour podcast.
I think it was two hours with Joe Rogan.
It's like, this guy's kind of cool.
seamus coughlin
And this is part of what's so amazing about the world of podcasting now.
The fact that you can have multiple hour-long conversations with these political figures and you really get to know them.
I have never felt like I have known who a...
Vice presidential candidate was in my entire life to the extent that I feel I know who J.D. Vance is just because I've gotten to listen to hours of him speaking.
I know about his perspective.
Something really struck me when I was listening to this conversation with Joe Rogan.
He was saying that his son told Trump a joke.
He's like, ah, the joke he told me was kind of a dirty joke, so I'm like, ah, you know, Trump's— I want to know the joke.
I know, we don't know what the joke is.
phil labonte
He didn't tell a joke.
seamus coughlin
But what really struck me when he said that, I just thought, oh my goodness, that's the first time in my entire life I've ever heard a vice presidential candidate tell me what they think about the presidential candidate.
Like, that's the first time I've ever— Like, what their perspective was about them, what their interactions are like with them.
Instead, it's all this, like, focused group, rehearsed, and teleprompted talking points, and then you get up for five minutes.
unidentified
It makes you think, because you're like, wait, why did Kamala only want to do an hour with Rogan?
seamus coughlin
You know why!
unidentified
If Trump can do three, it's not like Trump is less busy than Kamala.
Like, she could have done three hours, but then you're like, oh, she can't.
Like, why was her closing speech 30 minutes?
brett dasovic
Because the people on these platforms that have the largest reach can't be bought.
You'd imagine?
So she does the 60 Minutes interview.
It goes horribly.
And then they edit the 60 Minutes interview so that you don't know how awful it was.
Everyone knows that more people catch the clips.
Then catch the live of anything like that.
It's one of the reasons why Jon Stewart came back, right?
So he can go and they can cut those things up into clips so that he can influence the election the way that he wants to go.
So they're used to a state-sponsored media program that is, you know, all of these, whether it's 60 Minutes, whether it's CNN or MSNBC, they want access.
They want access to these candidates and they're willing to make whatever concessions they have to to do so because not just because they want the access, but they agree with them.
They have the same perspectives.
seamus coughlin
And they're also clinging to relevance, too.
brett dasovic
Exactly.
seamus coughlin
This is not—I'm not the first person to say this.
This is something a lot of people have been repeating.
But part of what this election has shown is just how irrelevant old media is becoming.
And Kamala Harris' campaign, they were certainly smart to tell her— Is that the racist one?
phil labonte
Kamala or Kamala?
unidentified
Kamala.
seamus coughlin
Whichever.
Her campaign, it was actually very smart of them strategically to tell her not to do Joe Rogan, right?
But this line of reasoning that she's the vice president and he needs her more than she needs him, that is a line of garbage.
No one actually believes that.
No one actually believes that.
And you look at the views that Call Her Daddy got on YouTube when Kamala went on, as opposed to the viewership that Trump's conversation with Joe Rogan had.
It's just an astronomical difference.
I mean, they...
She crushed Call Her Daddy in terms of views.
brett dasovic
But that's still going to do them better than 60 Minutes and any of these other ones, right?
So she's still...
I mean, granted, those are all people that are already voting for her anyway.
She's kind of preaching to the choir on Call Her Daddy.
But the most infuriating thing this entire election cycle was watching Tim Walz play Madden in the strategically placed Mountain Dew bottle that you know he didn't drink.
It wasn't even a regular Mountain Dew.
It was...
Diet.
And they're just like, you know, he had some stuff that was like, uh, guys like video games.
You know what video gamers like?
They like Mountain Dew.
unidentified
Put a Mountain Dew there.
Doing Doritos.
brett dasovic
Yeah.
It's that.
They created a Fortnite map for Kamala with no guns in it.
unidentified
With no guns.
phil labonte
What's the point?
brett dasovic
It's fake.
unidentified
Did they just have social workers?
brett dasovic
Yes.
You're a social worker.
seamus coughlin
You have to go around council everyone else in the game.
brett dasovic
It's fake.
It's inauthentic.
And the fact that most people these days pick up on it still seems strange to me considering how close the election is.
You should be able to see this type of inauthenticity from 10 miles away.
unidentified
My favorite part of that whole Madden with AOC and Tim Walz was there was a tweet of a retweet of AOC's post or something saying, hey, check me out on Twitch.
And this guy's like, ah, yes, that's exactly what I'll do.
Instead of watching seven hours of NFL Red Zone, I'll go watch Tim Walz play Madden.
I'm like, dude, like, someone told them in the back room, like, hey, hey, let's do it on football Sunday, right?
Because people like football and it happens on Sundays, so play the football video game on Sunday.
It's like, dude, no, no.
Like, people want to play the game themselves.
They're not going to watch Tim Walz play Madden, especially when real football's on.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, no, you don't think they want Tim Walz's extremely interesting commentary?
Well, and there's the other thing, too.
Man, I can't...
I'm a broken record here because I keep saying this thought didn't originate with me, but this is one thing I heard people saying about that whole stream is that him and AOC were going back and forth with these very rehearsed, boring political talking points.
That misses the whole point of...
Doing a live stream where you're playing a video game.
The whole point is, I'm half focused on something else, so I'm not as inhibited, so I'm just going to tell you how I feel about things.
They're going back and forth like, well, one thing I'm here to talk about today is women's rights.
Like, let me hit all of my bullet points.
You're like, come on.
unidentified
And the biggest takeaway from that was people were just looking at AOC being like, is she pregnant?
phil labonte
That's right, yeah.
My favorite thing about that was when Milo said that she looked like a serial killer that was dressed like AOC. Oh, man.
brett dasovic
It's funny because that actually hurts.
Obsessed with AOC. That hurts her because one of her selling points early on in her political career was that she did seem more authentic, a left-wing version of that.
She would go on her Instagram lives and talk directly to the people that followed her.
So she actually benefited from the same type of authenticity that we're talking about right-wing politicians trying to put forth.
But now, she's part of the board.
unidentified
You can only be called a big booty Latina so many times before you just don't want access to the people.
seamus coughlin
Do you remember when, was it, I think Pelosi's done this too now, but I want to say it started with Liz Warren.
She was like, I'm gonna have me a beer.
phil labonte
Oh yeah.
And her husband smacked her on the butt.
seamus coughlin
What?
Yeah, that actually happened.
phil labonte
Tim brought it up the other night.
We watched it and he literally did.
unidentified
Both the beer and the smack on the butt were...
seamus coughlin
I know that you're normally drinking children's blood.
Don't get on television and act like, I'm just gonna have me a little Corona here.
phil labonte
Both the beer and the smack on the butt were not natural.
brett dasovic
I would rather see her drink from a $10,000 bottle of scotch.
At least it's more authentic.
seamus coughlin
No, no, that's actually true.
I really believe that.
I mean, people will say Trump isn't humble.
I mean, sure, in certain ways he isn't, but I actually think it's way, way, way more humble to be a billionaire and act like a rich person than to be a billionaire and act like you're a broke college student.
It's fairly obnoxious.
There's things that Trump isn't humble about, but the fact that he's just honest about the fact that he has money is very humble.
Every rich person wants to act like they're not rich.
Mark Zuckerberg has to throw a t-shirt and sweatpants on.
You're like, dude, you're a billionaire.
Come on.
You're not fooling me.
He's just like me.
I know you're drinking children's blood.
The t-shirt doesn't fool me.
I know what's going on here.
brett dasovic
It's also because the right doesn't hate money and their voting block on the left hate money and they hate wealthy people.
So they have to fake it as much as possible.
We were talking about it today.
So we covered all of the Avengers who all look like they're terminally ill, if you go look at this video.
We talked about them campaigning for Harris Walls.
And I was like, all of these people have finally learned their lesson.
They frame their camera really tight to the room so you can't see how expensive everything in their house is.
There's one TV behind them.
It's a modest-sized TV because if you show the whole room, it's full of a bunch of antagonists.
unidentified
If you're outside, don't show the expensive view.
brett dasovic
They did this with Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis when they had, when, was it, he didn't get Me Too'd, but there was like human.
unidentified
They had to apologize for what they faced.
brett dasovic
They went and they like filmed on the side of the barn at their house, so it looks like they're in a very, very rural area, but really they're just on this wealthy plot of land.
phil labonte
That's why I respect rappers.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
They just bling everywhere, flashing.
Even if they don't have a lot of money, they're borrowing their friends.
They wear all their money.
seamus coughlin
Bling on loan?
phil labonte
Yeah, they'll flash it around.
brett dasovic
It's a business opportunity.
seamus coughlin
High bling trust rate.
phil labonte
They're going to borrow as much as they can.
High bling trust rate.
They'll go and they'll rent stuff.
They'll go and they'll buy it and then return it when they're done just so that way they can make the video.
That's what I'm talking about.
If you can't, fake it until you make it, man.
seamus coughlin
You know what's funny?
You know what the blink thing actually comes from?
What?
phil labonte
People wanting to have a lot of money.
unidentified
Mitt Romney.
seamus coughlin
So people want to have money.
Basically, if you were making money doing illegal things and you didn't want to get audited, you wouldn't want money in your bank account, so you would just buy expensive gold stuff and wear it.
Because if you're living in a bad neighborhood, you can't keep it at home when you're safe because you might get robbed.
So you just put all of your money into expensive jewelry and wear it on you all the time.
phil labonte
That's such a bad investment, too, because jewelry does not retain its value at all.
brett dasovic
We talked about it earlier.
Gold!
Gold is what you invest in.
phil labonte
I mean, look, I'm not a financial advisor, but I like gold coins and I like them.
unidentified
I'm not a financial advisor or a leprechaun, but I'll get me gold.
seamus coughlin
I am a leprechaun.
phil labonte
I almost made a remark about you and the rainbows when we were doing the gold season.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, I mean, that's the Irish financial strategy is leave your gold out in a field somewhere.
brett dasovic
The sad thing is, if they do win, all this says to me is that they can just place, insert any candidate they want.
And that is a dark notion for the country, that you don't even have to win a primary election.
You don't have to actually even be wanted by your constituency.
They can just place.
unidentified
You don't have to do the whole DEI song and dance either.
phil labonte
The argument that this is the last election that Elon Musk likes to make, I'm not sure if it will be a single party, but I do think that there will be a lot of people on the right that will say it's not worth it to vote anymore.
I mean, if there are dejected voters, there will be a lot of people that will be like, everybody hated Kamala Harris.
She didn't win anything.
brett dasovic
She can't form sentences.
phil labonte
Yeah, she's a terrible candidate.
brett dasovic
She can't give interviews.
phil labonte
She doesn't do anything.
She has no experience.
seamus coughlin
She hasn't protected black men's crypto.
phil labonte
And she still ends up the president.
And so that means that the quote-unquote deep state wins and voting is pointless and everything is just at the convenience of the government.
All your rights are not real.
unidentified
And they all start drinking Bud Light again.
brett dasovic
It's nothing.
phil labonte
Like, might as well chop the penis off, you know?
brett dasovic
It's like what Mike was saying last week on this podcast last Friday.
We said they've poured trillions of dollars into stamping out populism the same way that they did communism back in the 50s, right?
So how do you fight a trillion-dollar propaganda machine with memes?
unidentified
Trillion-dollar memes.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, trillion-dollar memes.
You have to spend more on the memes.
brett dasovic
Yeah.
phil labonte
I don't know.
Elon Musk spends a lot of money on memes.
A lot of the rocket launches are kind of memes.
They really are kind of showing you what's possible.
And I do think that if you have a Harris administration, I don't see them being particularly friendly to SpaceX, to the aspirations that Elon Musk has about getting.
The goal is to have, I think, have the ability to do 10 or 20 launches a day because the reusable rocket comes down, they clean it off, refuel it and go again.
If he can't get clearance to do a launch more than every few months, then he might be right that human beings are never going to get off the planet and colonize Mars because governments won't allow it.
The bureaucracy will just drag you down.
And that is a real, actual consideration.
Like, if you do not have a government that empowers its people to go try and fail and learn from the failures...
Then you're never gonna have the kind of progress that we need to be able to get off of Earth.
And whether you believe colonizing Mars is realistic or not, asteroids coming to the Earth and smashing into the Earth and killing all life on Earth, those are real.
Like, that's happened in history, it's happened multiple times, so it's not a bad idea to say, hey, we should try and figure out a way to get some kind of Plan B Even if it's just something like space stations that human beings can stay in for more than just a few months or whatever, or a year or two, so that we have something like that, something catastrophic happens, the species can survive, or at least has a chance.
seamus coughlin
And regardless of the likelihood of that kind of a scenario, surely we can agree that space exploration is worthwhile and that Elon Musk has really been progressing the technology in a way that we haven't seen the government.
And we also know that, for a fact at this point, really, that they're going to go after Elon if they win this election.
They're going to go after him, and they are going to try to shut down SpaceX and make it more difficult for him to engage in the development of technology for space exploration.
phil labonte
There's something that we say on PCC a lot, and that is bring back aspirational.
We generally talk about it in the context of advertising.
You know, we don't want to see...
I'm tired of seeing...
brett dasovic
No fatties.
phil labonte
No fatties.
Unattractive people.
It kind of peaked with that Calvin Klein ad where there were just two people that were...
Absolutely disgusting, and they looked awful, and that was kind of the peak of it, and it's been getting better.
But the point is, we need aspirational things that people will chase after.
Elon Musk isn't the only guy at SpaceX, but he's the reason why they have the tower that catches the rocket, and it worked the first time.
seamus coughlin
It's insane.
phil labonte
And everybody, if I understand correctly, it was Musk and one other dude that were like, no, that's a good idea.
And everybody else was like, you're nuts.
But Musk was like, look, you're the guy that believes in it.
I'm putting you in charge.
And they did it.
The point is, if you don't have people that will dream big and have goals that are beyond what you think you can do, then you're not going to have significant progress.
All these progressives are so...
They call themselves progressive and all they do is want to go ahead and hold everyone back, crabs in a bucket, and we need aspirational people.
We need people.
The reason to have beautiful people in advertisements is so that way you want to try to be like them.
Maybe you'll never be the beautiful person in the advertisement, but you can lose some weight.
You can go to the gym and you can be a healthier person for your family and for the people around you.
And that's something that's super important.
And I think that our society has lost that.
unidentified
They brought back the hot Victoria's Secret models and had all fatties for a while.
seamus coughlin
It's such a wild thing too.
Was it Dove that it started with?
Where they started doing those body positive ads?
Where they're like, look at all these different body types.
It's such a weird thing, man.
Because it was almost always heavier people, like really scrawny people never get a pass.
unidentified
The bigger you are, the more soap you need.
brett dasovic
It's actually a marketing ploy.
seamus coughlin
It's hilarious.
No, but it's a bizarre thing.
And yeah, they want to demoralize people.
They want things to be uninteresting.
They want to shut down anybody who aspires to anything.
And it's just really ironic to hear people call Elon Musk mediocre when he's done more to advanced space exploration and creating electric cars and all of these things that...
You know, quote-unquote humanists used to consider their goals.
Well, they call Kamala Harris, who's just completely empty-headed and impressive, just an absolutely vapid, bubble-headed person.
Just nothing going on up there.
And we're supposed to believe that she's an impressive person and that Elon Musk is mediocre.
brett dasovic
This is the sad part about it.
They're all just statists.
If NASA did it all, they'd love it.
They don't care that he's doing it.
They care that it's not the government doing it.
phil labonte
They hate the fact that it's a billionaire.
Now, the government can have as much money as they want.
seamus coughlin
Exactly.
brett dasovic
Their own money.
They love that the government has their money and is also a billionaire.
unidentified
They don't mind that he's a billionaire.
He's a billionaire not doing their bidding because they love Bill Gates.
brett dasovic
Do people have any real thoughts about Bill Gates?
I mean, we have negative thoughts about Bill Gates, but does anybody actually have, like, I love Bill Gates energy?
I don't think that's a thing.
unidentified
Maybe his kids.
seamus coughlin
Well, yeah, I was just going to say, they get really upset about billionaires, and they'll go, a person could work for millions and millions of years and never earn that kind of money at an Normal wage rate, and you go, okay, the government spends 19 billion dollars per day, per day, the amount of money that they burn through, and you're not interested in examining where that money's going, how much of it is wasted.
We know the Pentagon fails its audits all the time, and something like a third of the money that we throw at the industrial military complex just vanishes, and you're not really interested in exploring that.
brett dasovic
Pallets of money just disappear overseas.
seamus coughlin
And by the way, despite what most left-wing pundits will tell you, the military is not our largest expenditure either.
We spend more on Medicare and Medicaid and Social Security, and you wonder what kind of waste is going on there.
But it's like people are only interested in critiquing the way wealth is used when the wealth is being used by a billionaire.
But you can't control what the billionaire does with his wealth.
You can control what the government does with the money if you vote.
But no one looks into it.
And it's like, so what's your solution?
You want the government to take Elon Musk's wealth so that they can waste it and then you cannot care that it was wasted because the government did it?
What's the endgame here?
unidentified
Yeah, because that doesn't make people feel insecure.
Like, mine could have been a millionaire too.
seamus coughlin
I think you're right.
I think it's an insecurity thing because the government, it's massive amounts of money being handled by completely mediocre people.
And so they feel like, I could be in that position.
I'm not jealous.
phil labonte
Yeah.
We're going to go ahead and go to the next story here.
Boeing slashes DEI department in latest staff shake-up.
And I think that this kind of has a little bit to do with the last topic that we were talking about.
Boeing dismantled its Global Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion department on Thursday, according to a report by Bloomberg, citing sources familiar with the matter.
The report stated that the staff from Boeing's DEI office will be combined with another human resource team focused on talent and employee experience.
Does that sound kind of like...
unidentified
No, I think they're just rebranding it.
brett dasovic
It's just rebranding.
phil labonte
I don't know.
They say it was focused on talent and employee experience.
And the reason I say this is because...
Well, let me go ahead and finish this here.
Sarah Bowen, Boeing's vice president leading the DEI department, also announced her resignation from the company on LinkedIn Thursday.
Today I turned in my blue badge, Bowen said in her LinkedIn post...
It has been the privilege of my lifetime to lead equity, diversity, and inclusion at the Boeing Company these past five plus years.
Our team strived every day to support the evolving brilliance and creativity of our workforce.
The team achieved so much, sometimes imperfectly, never easily, and dreamed of doing much more still.
All of it has been worth it.
Now, Boeing had a terrible year.
All sorts of...
unidentified
L's.
brett dasovic
Just endless L's.
phil labonte
Endless L's.
All sorts of breaking planes.
Their stock has tanked, I believe.
brett dasovic
There's astronauts who are just stuck in space that they can't get back.
phil labonte
So I do...
As much as we can be a little on the cynical side here and say, oh, you know, they're just rebranding, I think...
I mean, I like to think that the...
General tenor of society now, and in conjunction with tangible losses and damages that Boeing has to absorb, has made them say, hey, we actually do have to hire based on merit.
And especially when you're dealing with a company like Boeing, because not only are they dealing with planes, all the stuff with the 737 was a nightmare, and that shook a lot of people's confidence.
In flying overall, because 737s are, you know, every Southwest airline plane is a 737.
They're ubiquitous.
You can't go to the airport.
Obviously, you can't go to the airport without seeing them.
The high profile of the Boeing failure to get the astronauts back.
And then you throw in the fact that, you know, Boeing has a lot of military contracts.
Boeing is a very, very big military contractor.
And I imagine, and again, I don't have a whole lot of trust in the government, but I imagine the federal government is saying, look...
You can't flub the stuff that you're making for us.
You can't mess it up because we've got airmen and soldiers and pilots' lives on the line.
So I would like to think, again, maybe I'm being a little naive, but I would like to think that this is another...
Of the small victories, and that's kind of why I wanted to end with it, because it's a little white pill for a Friday.
You know, another small victory for Team Sanity.
brett dasovic
Only took a bunch of planes going down.
phil labonte
Thankfully, were there deaths?
I don't know that a lot of people died, but I know there were injuries.
brett dasovic
Injuries.
We talk about this on PCC all the time about the idea of meritocracy in art and entertainment.
And that's a funny place to talk about it because the stakes are very low.
Certainly your favorite movie franchise might get ruined if the wrong person gets hired.
But come on.
If there's like a couple of industries where you should absolutely...
Absolutely higher on merit.
Let's make it the airplanes and the doctors.
I remember seeing an ad once for LASIK eye surgery.
It was like, buy one, get one done.
If there's one place where you pay full price, it's your LASIK eye surgery.
seamus coughlin
That's what I'm saying, dude.
I'm not like shopping for something like that.
brett dasovic
I'm not bargain shopping my LASIK. No way.
unidentified
Tim Pool says this.
He's like, if I'm in a burning building, I want my local fireman to be this big hulk of a man.
I want him to be burly.
I want him to be seven feet tall because I know I'm getting pulled out of that building, right?
It's the same thing goes with Boeing.
You are hauling hundreds of people thousands of feet in the air.
We need the best possible person to be flying those planes, to be working on those planes, to be repairing them.
Every single part of an airport needs to have the best people in those jobs.
Raise your hand if you don't take a little look into the cockpit to see if you can see two white elbows sticking out.
brett dasovic
We were talking about this before the show.
My logic is like, look, I just know that I'm not special and I will never die in such an interesting way.
That's my logic.
So whenever people are scared on the plane, I'm like, you are statistically more likely to die in a car crash anyways, and then I ruin it for everyone.
seamus coughlin
Now no one's excited for the plane to go down anymore.
This is a thing.
We actually did a cartoon a while ago.
I think it was over a year ago at this point, but it was just like when the pilot's an affirmative action hire.
And it's a goofy one, but the general idea, which I think we can all agree to, is they're Are certain positions we should be especially concerned about DEI with?
Like, when it comes to, you know, an industry where a mistake can kill hundreds of people.
phil labonte
Air traffic controllers.
unidentified
Or losing my luggage.
seamus coughlin
No, but even that, like, why should you have to lose your luggage just because somebody decided that certain people have a good skin color and that people with the good skin color have to be put in the positions that people with the bad skin color didn't deserve?
It's just ridiculous.
Give jobs on the basis of merit.
brett dasovic
They're gonna bargain down.
They're like, you can make the single passenger planes, but you can't make the multi-passenger planes.
phil labonte
Oh, you can make a prop.
brett dasovic
Yes, you can make the Cessnas.
phil labonte
You can't make actual jets.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
Yeah, because there's too many people in the jets.
unidentified
Yeah, I mean, I still can't get over the astronauts stranded in space.
Not stuck.
They're stranded.
Boeing stranded two human beings in outer space.
Do they have enough ice cream?
What are they eating out there?
brett dasovic
They stranded two human beings in space.
phil labonte
They stranded two human beings in space.
And they are investigating, I think there's at least six investigations against SpaceX, or maybe just Elon Musk companies, but there's multiple federal investigations of SpaceX, the company that's going to successfully retrieve those people.
unidentified
So they're not like floating.
They're not just like...
phil labonte
No, they're not adding space.
unidentified
I mean, they're floating inside the ISS. It's not like the Sandra Bullock movie.
Maybe they're playing Among Us and they just...
brett dasovic
They got to vote.
They got their votes out of there.
Did you see that?
seamus coughlin
They were able to vote?
brett dasovic
Yeah, they were able to vote.
seamus coughlin
They're like, trust us.
They voted for Kamala.
Definitely.
brett dasovic
They just dropped him in space.
seamus coughlin
But that is a really good point.
All these federal investigations into Elon, whose company is actually saving these astronauts, because the federal government gets a pass for everything.
And this is why it's so transparent that we just should not be giving more obligations to the federal government, because who investigates the government when they do something wrong?
The government.
Listen, I want for there to be a legal environment Where the people we trust with important functions can be investigated fairly when they do something wrong.
The government's not going to get a fair investigation.
It's full of political activists at this point who are only going to go after their enemies.
unidentified
Have you seen the photos of the SpaceX teams or the new Twitter teams?
I'm not even joking here.
It's a diverse team.
It's a diverse team.
And it's like he didn't force that.
He's getting the best people for the job and it's still diverse.
America's diverse.
Who would have thought?
You don't need to shoehorn people into these positions.
seamus coughlin
But it's probably not diverse in the right ways to the right percentages.
And most importantly, it's not diverse in a way where he's submitting to them and obeying to them, right?
phil labonte
There was a picture of Twitter.
I believe it was Trust and Safety, which has been totally dismantled and is no longer an actual department.
But the trust and safety team, they considered it diverse and it was almost exclusively women.
And they called that diverse because men had for so long been in these positions.
So because men had been in these positions for so long, now we needed to have women involved.
in it.
Totally controlling these positions so that way you are taking the past and making it right for past offenses.
That's not diverse.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
phil labonte
That's not diverse at all.
unidentified
Take that, men.
phil labonte
And it's also a terrible idea because clearly it was not beneficial to X or to, you know, honestly to any company.
seamus coughlin
I remember when Black Panther was being made, there was a post from some publication and it was a picture of the cast and they were all black and it was like, the most diverse cast in film history.
I'm like, what do you think the word diverse means?
What do you think that means?
brett dasovic
Well, I mean, they're saying the quiet part out loud.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, exactly.
Which diversity means no white people.
Exactly, exactly.
No white people.
That's right.
phil labonte
I mean, it is a terrible development that, you know, this has become the situation where the safety of people in airplanes...
It comes second to the safety of the feelings of people that would be, I don't know, reading an article about who works at a place or, you know, the feelings of people that apply for a job.
I mean, again, we said this, but the people that are flying planes, particularly the people that are working air traffic control, that, if I understand correctly, that is a really, really stressful and difficult job.
But those people should be the best of the best.
They should be clearly qualified.
I don't want someone that got through by the skin of their teeth.
I don't want someone that is second best.
If there's someone that's better at the job, then they should have the job.
There shouldn't be anything other than the best and people that are clearly qualified.
And to do anything else is not just doing a disservice to the people that are actually qualified, but you're putting lives on the line.
unidentified
We got to this point because of NPC behavior, right?
Boeing saw all these other companies, and it's okay if Target has a DEI program, but when you keep going up the chain and it gets to Boeing, where real lives are at risk, that's the issue.
That's the issue, and...
Just like you said, Tim, I'm just going to kind of reiterate what you said.
It should not be controversial.
The best people should be in the job, especially when human lives are at risk.
You risk destroying this whole industry of race hustlers who are various consultants and they work for universities.
brett dasovic
The consultant class is the one that needs to be abolished more than anything.
And it also does a disservice to those that fall into those jobs that were already diverse, right?
Like, so the ones who are good at their jobs, who got there on merit, are now second-guessed, and that's not good for anybody because that fosters bad relationships between human beings.
phil labonte
I mean, I think everyone's probably fairly aware of the fact that, like, in 20...
In 2009, 2008, there was a general consensus in America that race relations had never been better, that we were kind of like, you know, we were like, yeah, I think that we kind of, you know, we're not really that racist society anymore.
We have some black marks in our society, in our history, but...
We kind of really put a lot of effort into moving past it, and I think that, and this is both, you know, black people and white people were kind of of the opinion, yeah, I think, you know, things are much better.
There were still, of course, going to be racist people and bigotry and stuff, but it wasn't the norm.
No one thought that it was the norm anyway.
And then by 2013, 2014, it has just all gone to shit, you know, like where people were just like, oh, race relations have never been worse.
unidentified
Thomas Sowell said, I'm going to paraphrase the quote, but Thomas Sowell said, America has a supply and demand problem now with racism, right?
Everyone expects to see it everywhere, and it's just not that common.
It's just not that common.
People embrace their differences.
We laugh about it.
We joke about it, especially on this show.
brett dasovic
It happens all the time.
Social media has done irreparable damage to this.
Not just social media in general, but the news understands that there's a lot of money to be made off of it.
There's a lot of money to be made off the headlines that cover these types of things.
And in the attention economy, you're not looking for the ethical way forward.
You're looking to make the money, which is why they focus on Donald Trump so much.
They know he draws clicks.
They know he makes the money.
They understand that the same is true for discrepancies.
Yep.
phil labonte
So, I think we're going to go to Super Chat.
So, smash the like button, share the show with your friends, and go on over to TimCast.com and join up and become a member because, not tonight, but normally, Monday through Thursday, we do the after show where things get a little spicy and, you know, we can say what we really think.
unidentified
Say bad words.
phil labonte
Well, say bad words, but also ideas that, you know, YouTube would frown upon and we don't really have to worry about it over there, so...
Yeah.
Share it with your friends.
So let's see.
We're going to do some super chats, huh?
Clint Torres says, howdy, people.
Howdy, Miss Chrissy.
unidentified
Did you say Clitoris?
phil labonte
Close.
Very close.
Clint Torres.
unidentified
Oh.
brett dasovic
Close enough.
unidentified
What's up, Clint?
phil labonte
The yellow is for you.
He says, howdy, Miss Chrissy.
The yellow is for you.
I assume that it's the...
unidentified
I'm a Latin king.
That's why.
phil labonte
We just go down the list here?
Yeah.
Okay.
Let's see.
unidentified
Whatever ones stand out.
brett dasovic
Just read the ones that are about you, Phil.
That's all you got.
phil labonte
Clint Torres says, Phil, go to the gym.
But I'm busy, Clint.
I'm here.
I have to help out and pull my weight.
Let's see.
I don't know if that's actually true.
unidentified
It's true.
Look, he left.
phil labonte
Do you think it's true?
unidentified
He's gone?
phil labonte
Seamus is gone.
brett dasovic
He left his laptop.
He just ran out of here.
phil labonte
Actually, no, if you look, Seamus has three bottles of water, and I think he's gone.
brett dasovic
Yes, that explains it more than anything.
The three bottles of water.
phil labonte
Seamus with the bladder buster.
unidentified
I, too, am leaking, but in a different way.
I have to pump.
phil labonte
Let's see.
Silver Serpent says 7.42pm.
I'm not sure what that is.
unidentified
That's just no chat.
No message.
phil labonte
Oh, okay.
Well, thank you.
Kelly says smash the like button and share the show with your friends.
You're right.
Kelly's right.
You should smash that like button.
Or what do you do on PCC? Do you gently tap the like button?
brett dasovic
You're not so rude.
phil labonte
Caress it.
brett dasovic
I wouldn't say fondle it.
That's just rude.
Go to jail for that stuff.
phil labonte
Kelly says, vote early equals big pee-pee.
And that is true.
If you vote early, big pee-pee.
If you don't vote, small pee-pee.
unidentified
If you don't vote at all, no pee-pee.
phil labonte
Even more true.
Even more true.
Uh...
Joey Giggle says, I don't know if I think that's true.
unidentified
Um...
phil labonte
I do think that the shadow campaign is going to do all they can to adjust things.
I'm not sure how successful it will be.
I do think that the 2020 election was unique because of how novel the whole voting with COVID and stuff was.
But I don't know if they're going to be able to replicate that.
What do you think?
unidentified
Yeah.
brett dasovic
It's also why they say there needs to be a blowout, right?
It's a hair job, isn't it?
unidentified
It's a blowout.
brett dasovic
When I was growing up playing sports, the idea was if you lost by one run, you have nobody to blame but yourself, right?
Because you need to win, so you need to get everybody involved and get up out and vote because if it's something that can be taken on such small margins, that's because you didn't do your job.
You didn't get things done.
unidentified
Or five unearned runs, Yankees.
Exactly.
brett dasovic
So happy for Freddie Freeman there.
So happy for Freddie Freeman.
phil labonte
I am a Red Sox fan.
unidentified
I was going to bring the football reference in.
A lot of people complain about that one bad call the ref made.
But you had a whole game.
You had four quarters, a whole hour to make a difference, just like you said.
And you can't wait until the last...
You can't come down to just one thing didn't go your way.
phil labonte
And it doesn't matter if you think Trump's ahead by miles.
Remember, Super Bowl 51, Patriots were down by 25 points or something like that.
unidentified
28-3.
phil labonte
28-3, they were down by 25 points at the half, and then they came back to win.
brett dasovic
Sigh up to say that you're ahead.
Just act as if you're not.
phil labonte
And the thing that the Patriots got a lot of hell for was they would continue to absolutely pummel their opponents even when they were up.
It got to the point where people were like, they're just being mean, blah, blah, blah.
But that is the attitude that winners have.
You continue to score and score, and you put as much distance between yourself and the team you're playing...
As you possibly can because you never can tell when someone's going to say, you know what?
We're going to win this and go from three points to 34.
unidentified
And if you don't continue to pummel your opponent, they're going to leave you for their jujitsu teacher.
brett dasovic
By the way, guys, that's also why Coach Riley was always right in the movie Mighty Ducks.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
So you can't sit back on your laurels if you think Trump's gonna win.
If you are anxious as I am, I think you need to go out and vote.
And if you are not anxious like I am, then you need to go out and vote.
So make sure you get out there and cast your votes.
Let's see.
Superchats.
Superchats.
unidentified
You're doing a great job, Phil.
phil labonte
Well, thank you.
unidentified
You should have worn the beanie over your hat.
phil labonte
Maybe next time.
I own a beanie of my own.
Maybe next time I'll bring mine.
Next time I have to fill in.
Peter O'Hawks, I think is what it says.
unidentified
Go Hawks.
phil labonte
Peter Go Hawks.
My wife and I are trying to flip Washington State.
We both just voted Trump.
Everybody that we know did too.
Trump 2024.
Fight.
Vote, vote, vote.
Well, I agree.
Vote, vote, vote.
unidentified
What was it?
Portland where early voting is like favoring conservatives right now?
I think we just talked about that the other day.
brett dasovic
The PSYOP. Nobody believes that.
unidentified
It's nuts.
That's good.
That's what we need to do.
phil labonte
It would be wonderful.
And of all the places that have historically been left-leaning and might actually change or whatever, I think Portland is actually high likelihood because Portland put up with a lot of crap in the Summer of Love.
And it's not...
It's not typical for leftist anarchists to get out and vote.
So maybe the people of Portland are like, I don't want to deal with more of the riots from the left.
Maybe the people of Portland are like, you know what, we're tired of your shenanigans, firebombing leftists.
unidentified
They're sick of replacing the same windows over and over.
brett dasovic
I never have faith that that makes any changes.
Look, Minnesota went through the same thing in COVID and I don't buy for a second that Minnesota is going to change either.
phil labonte
I mean, I'm not saying that I know.
I'm just pontificating here, you know, based on the conversation that we're having.
So, let's see.
Sergeant Peanut says, please watch Rooster Fighter anime trailer.
It's a real anime being produced and similar to the new music video.
Okay.
unidentified
Well, cock-a-doodle-doo.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think it's a Trash House Records, right?
phil labonte
Yeah, Trash House Records.
unidentified
Halloween song.
Check it out.
phil labonte
It's kind of a Halloween song, but it's a really cool song.
It's a bit of a departure from the stuff that they've done historically.
A bit of a dance kind of bop feel, you know.
brett dasovic
Is that why there was a question earlier in the week about, like, what is a song that feels Halloween to you but isn't Halloween?
Like when we were on PCC? Somebody asked, what is a song that feels like a Halloween song to you but isn't a Halloween song?
unidentified
Thriller?
No, never mind.
phil labonte
I mean, that's technically not a Halloween song.
That's just a horror movie song.
unidentified
The music video makes it so...
Did you see Mariah Carey's video today?
So it starts as a Halloween thing, but then it like shatters and it becomes her Christmas song.
brett dasovic
She makes one of those now every year.
unidentified
Time to thaw her out.
brett dasovic
Thaw her out every year.
30 years old that song is.
unidentified
I love that song.
phil labonte
It's so good.
unidentified
Wow.
phil labonte
Jason Dixon says, whoa, where's Tim?
I believe he's on the highway somewhere.
He is en route to Nashville.
unidentified
He's just napping under the table.
brett dasovic
He's not taking the Cybertruck?
I saw the Cybertruck out there.
phil labonte
I don't know.
I think that...
I don't know.
I'm not sure.
I mean...
If it were me, maybe I would, but I'm not sure what his whole deal is because he's got the whole portable studio that he's bringing with him.
He's going to do some stuff, content tomorrow, if I understand correctly.
So I don't know.
Maybe it could be that doing that stuff with the Cybertruck is difficult.
brett dasovic
You should do it in the Cybertruck.
You should do his content in the Cybertruck.
phil labonte
Look, man, I think that's probably a cool idea, but I'm not Tim, so he can do what he wants to do.
Grotty says, all that remains cast.
Well, just one guy from All That Remains.
unidentified
No, I think he means this is all that remains of the normal.
Oh, it could be.
The leftovers.
Don't say that one.
brett dasovic
Oh, they're always going to try and get you.
unidentified
Don't say that one.
phil labonte
Someone should be something says Breaking.
Ron Paul tweets he would accept Elon's offer to join the Doge office.
This is huge.
unidentified
I looked that up.
seamus coughlin
Is that real?
unidentified
Yeah, I looked that up.
He said he'd be open to joining Elon and help out with the administration.
phil labonte
I mean, look, I love Ron Paul.
I imagine it would be only part-time because Ron Paul is like an old man or something.
So we need Ron Paul to take it easy because we don't want him to keel over.
brett dasovic
Same thing with Thomas Sowell.
phil labonte
Yes, Thomas Sowell's another guy that, you know, I absolutely love his opinions and his brain, but he's earned the rest.
seamus coughlin
That's also true.
No, it's true.
It's like at some point you gotta let the guy chill.
But he's just such a brilliant mind.
phil labonte
Yeah.
MBJ says Philcast Live.
I don't know that we're going to go with that moniker.
Shimcast and Brimcast, they did that, and I think that if there's going to be a name for when I fill in, it's not going to be the Philcast.
I think we're going to go with something else.
Probably not actually any specific name.
seamus coughlin
We've got to come up with something.
brett dasovic
I like not actually any specific name.
phil labonte
Maybe.
We'll see.
Let's see.
Grand Laws says, Chrissy Mayer, FNT in the house?
unidentified
Yes!
Friday Night Tights!
Every Friday.
phil labonte
Oh, Friday Night Tights.
Okay.
unidentified
4pm on Nerd Roddick's channel.
It's a very good show.
It's about superheroes?
Greatest.
Yes, superheroes.
Oh, okay.
I didn't know if it was like, you know, like a fashion show or something, you know?
Oh, no.
I mean, it's like culture, film, TV, chats.
phil labonte
Lululemon.
unidentified
Yeah, just complaining about Lucasfilm.
phil labonte
I mean, there's a lot to complain about.
Mutual.
Uh...
Dee Grizz says, PhilCast IRL, let's go!
Again.
Oh, jeez, there's a lot of those now.
unidentified
Yeah, I don't think we get to decide.
I've been watching the chat all show, and PhilCast has kind of become a thing.
It's a Phil good...
brett dasovic
It's like a nickname.
You don't get to pick your nickname.
phil labonte
Yeah, it's true.
brett dasovic
In fact, the more you like it, the less likely it is to stick.
phil labonte
True, true, true.
So, maybe.
Nima says, Phil, please do a scream for Philcast.
We'll do that at the end.
Robert G. Smith.
Says, Phil Cass, started nervous.
Don't need to win us over, dude.
Be Phil that remains now that Tim bailed on us.
Tim didn't bail.
He has other things to do.
And considering how much the man works, it's my privilege to step in and help him out.
Kodiak Anderson says, you're killing it, brother.
We appreciate you, Phil.
Cheers, man.
Thank you very much.
unidentified
You filled in for him.
phil labonte
I did.
seamus coughlin
Oh, that's got to be how it is.
That's got to be how you do it.
phil labonte
We could.
We'll see what happens.
Nunya B. Wild how it seems Phil is a nervous host to start when he's a rock star.
Love it when Phil is on.
Cooler to see host but when new album.
You know, I'm not announcing new album.
New song in just a couple weeks, but not a new album yet.
New album is still a little time left.
But keep your eye out.
There will be another All That Remains song coming in the next couple weeks.
unidentified
How does it compare hosting IRL versus getting on a stage in front of thousands of screaming fans?
phil labonte
Well, I mean, I'm a little more used to doing the shows.
I mean, I know what I'm going to say.
I know kind of how to interact with the crowd.
unidentified
Would it help if you signed my boobs?
Would that make you more comfortable?
phil labonte
I would, but I'm afraid that I'd get shot in the face with milk or something.
unidentified
It probably would.
phil labonte
This is my nice t-shirt.
No, but I mean, it's just trying to know the scripts and stuff.
We didn't have any kind of like actually listed out stuff.
brett dasovic
As soon as it gets into the conversation, it's a lot easier.
All that stuff at the beginning, the monologue.
phil labonte
Yeah, you want to make sure that you get the stuff that you got to talk about listed and et cetera, et cetera.
And I think that I got most of it.
I probably didn't say smash the like button and share the show with your friends enough.
But, you know, we'll go ahead and get that.
unidentified
I will say, when Tim left, he didn't give us the script for this episode.
Which, as you guys know, that every episode we do have a dedicated writing team that writes just like a big ol' stack.
brett dasovic
Yeah, you guys were lying earlier.
Everybody earlier was like lying about podcasts being completely off the cuff.
Everybody's just saying whatever they want.
No, no.
We got this whole script we gotta remember.
seamus coughlin
A deep state hoax.
brett dasovic
Yeah.
phil labonte
Yes, indeed.
Which we're comfortable with, I think.
Gunnery Game says, so Michigan just found over 160k duplicate ballots.
In 2020, Biden carried the state by about 150k votes.
Looks questionable to me.
Everything is questionable, in my opinion.
So...
unidentified
This is why the Help America Vote verification was so important, why Tim was talking about it so much and seemed like no one else cared.
He's like, whoa, this is weird.
Why are they purging 30,000?
They can't verify these voters.
This was happening in all the states.
And we've been talking about this since April.
And I don't know of any other influencer or news site talking about it.
And it leads to this.
Like, whoa, what's going on here?
phil labonte
What's going on indeed?
Let's see.
Miso Trash says put a girl on.
Excuse me.
unidentified
Hello.
I'm here.
phil labonte
Miss Mary says, my daughter and I voted today Trump 2024.
Well, that's wonderful to hear.
We like to hear it.
Let's see.
Americish11 says, respectfully, Tim needs to prepare better for debates.
Sam Cedar got under his skin and ruled him this morning.
Tim is usually better at explaining points than he was this morning.
I mean, look, man, Sam Cedar is...
It was pretty slimy, and I was watching it, and I think that Sam Seder had come with the intention of trying to get under his skin more than actually trying to get any kind of productive conversation.
Sam was here to get clips.
That's what he wanted to get, and so he may have got them.
Like I said, I watched the beginning of it.
I didn't watch the whole thing, but I will be watching it later.
I imagine that it was mostly just Sam being the kind of snaky kind of guy that he is.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, I saw the first hour or so of it.
Maybe not even that much, but I saw a good chunk of it.
And, you know, of course, Tim's not as good of a debater as, say, me.
But...
unidentified
Did you say that you are a master?
seamus coughlin
Oh, come on!
phil labonte
I'm really enjoying Chrissy.
seamus coughlin
I actually will say, as far as the conversation went, I certainly would not say Tim got rolled.
It felt really calm.
I thought, I was like, oh, this might be a shit show.
It kind of didn't seem like the energy was even that high, for the hour that I saw, at least.
It didn't even seem like it was getting crazy and aggressive.
Now, as soon as Sam came on, he tried to go into drama, which I was glad Tim called him out for.
He's like, you're having me on your show, but you've said I'm blacklisted from your show.
And then he played clips of Tim saying he's blacklisted from other people's show, which is not what he claimed Tim said.
And it was like, alright, so that's, this is obviously not like a productive conversation thus far, but it wasn't, it didn't really feel like a debate.
phil labonte
It would have been kind of hilarious if Tim was like, you're right, and just stop the show.
Yeah, you're right.
unidentified
You can't be here.
I will say from sitting in the room since I produced the show this morning, sitting in that room for three hours, it seemed like Tim was genuinely trying to have a conversation and a debate about ideas and Sam was trying to say, just trying to drive home, ha, I'm right.
Without actually having the debate.
seamus coughlin
There was one thing that really annoyed me.
Well, no, no, no.
So what happened was, as they're having the conversation, they were talking about the death penalty, and Tim said, well, I don't think it should be up to the state to determine...
Who lives and who dies?
And then Sam says, well, I just don't think it should be up to any human to determine who lives and who dies.
And then Tim starts listing off situations like self-defense, where a person does determine who lives and dies, and Sam goes like, well, I don't know what that has to do with the death penalty.
It's like, wait a minute.
No, you're the one who just said you don't think anyone, regardless of whether we're talking about the death penalty or it's the government should decide who lives or dies.
And it was like frustrating listening, like, wait, how did no one call him out for that?
How did nobody notice that?
unidentified
I will say, I do thank Sam for coming onto the show.
A lot of people on the left refuse to come on, so I really do appreciate you coming down.
And he had like a 4 a.m.
flight to get here and then had to leave right after.
So, you know, he had to jump through a lot of hoops to make it happen, and I appreciate that.
So thank you, Sam.
But yeah, if you guys want to check out the show, go over to the Tim Pool channel on YouTube.
It's up there now.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, 100%.
I think it's good he can.
I like that he gave Tim the hat, too.
phil labonte
Is it on the Spotify as well now?
Because I was looking for that because in my new car I can't listen to YouTube videos.
I wanted to listen to it on the drive home.
unidentified
Yep, you can also find it on your favorite podcast platform, Spotify, Apple, Google.
I think there's one I'm missing.
But yeah, it's on YouTube and Spotify and all those podcast platforms.
seamus coughlin
So yeah, like I said, I haven't gotten a chance to finish yet.
Would you say that's mostly your assessment of how the rest of it goes?
Is there anything crazy I missed?
unidentified
The fireworks happen around after the two-hour mark.
seamus coughlin
After the two-hour mark.
unidentified
Which also is funny enough because that's when the real heated debate happened with Andrew Wilson and Tim.
And it seems like that third hour, something happens in that third hour.
brett dasovic
Everybody can get along for two hours, but by the time that third hour starts, like, I'm done.
seamus coughlin
You can get along with anyone for two hours, yeah.
unidentified
The abortion debate.
I'm hungry.
brett dasovic
I want to get the hell out of here.
phil labonte
If you give everybody a snack at about an hour and 30 minutes, then they'll go ahead and be fine for the rest of it, but it's longer.
They'll get it longer.
Let's see.
brett dasovic
Tim should give out sliced apples to everyone.
unidentified
Yes!
A hard boiled egg.
seamus coughlin
Someone come up with little apple slices.
unidentified
Ants on a log?
brett dasovic
In a juice box.
unidentified
That's what this police needs is a mom making snacks.
Yeah, I'm for it.
phil labonte
Vulture1066 says, is Tim busy digging Sam down in the yard?
No, Sam has left.
unidentified
He brought us candy.
seamus coughlin
Did he actually do...
I saw Tim tweeted that.
I wasn't sure if he was trolling.
He brought candy?
unidentified
He brought a big ol' bag of candy, but in my Reese's Cup I found a Katana, so...
I mean...
seamus coughlin
Did he actually bring candy?
brett dasovic
Razor blades in the apples.
I knew it.
seamus coughlin
That was nice to the fella, to bring some candy for everybody.
phil labonte
Phone Caller Man 2 says, first Tim cast, then Spoon Steeler cast, then Brim cast, and now finally All That cast.
seamus coughlin
All That cast is good.
Dylan is too good, though.
phil labonte
All That cast.
unidentified
All That was a Nickelodeon show, I'm pretty sure.
seamus coughlin
It was.
brett dasovic
It was.
phil labonte
Nick says...
seamus coughlin
And you don't want to...
Yeah, sorry.
phil labonte
It's alright.
Nick says Tim needs a good old spanking live on camera.
No.
unidentified
Certainly not that kind of show.
seamus coughlin
That's not needed.
Tim doesn't need it.
We don't need it.
Nobody needs that.
brett dasovic
Not it.
phil labonte
Yeah, definitely.
TheDudeAbides95 says, Phil, can you team up with Nick the Fat Electrician in a culture war against two predominant communists?
If the commies chicken out, you guys could still roast communism.
You know, I love the Fat Electrician's content.
He is...
An absolutely stellar storyteller.
He is hilarious.
So if you don't follow him, you should follow The Fat Electrician on YouTube.
He tells military history and he's a great storyteller.
So you should check him out.
Lord Seeping says, it's the first cast that remains IRL. Although, it's a that too dark of a name considering the recent layoffs.
I'm not touching that one.
unidentified
Too soon, they say.
phil labonte
Darun Albain says, if women are outvoting men...
But Ra are winning the early vote.
Does that mean Ra are winning the women vote?
unidentified
Republicans.
phil labonte
Oh, ours.
unidentified
Ours.
phil labonte
There we go.
Yes.
If Republicans are winning the early vote, does that mean Republicans are winning the women vote?
I mean, hopefully, I would love to see that the people that are doing the early voting are all excited to vote for Republicans.
But regardless, you need to get out and vote, especially if you're, you know, voting for Donald Trump.
Get out there.
Wait in line.
I know there's some shenanigans people have been concerned with in Pennsylvania.
There's long waits.
It's still warm.
It's going to be fairly warm this weekend.
I don't know if they're going to be voting on the weekend, but get out there.
It was warm this week, so even if you had to stand outside in line...
It was at least comfortable.
You weren't freezing, so get out there and make sure you vote.
Don't let old Donnie down.
brett dasovic
Finally, climate change does something for us.
unidentified
Right?
phil labonte
Let's see.
Mark Jr.
says, do men show out on election day?
I think so.
Love the show and shim cast forever, hopefully.
Hopefully all is okay with Tim.
Love you all and thank you all.
Everything is fine with Tim.
He is just going to do some stuff on the way to Nashville.
unidentified
We have a big, big week ahead of us, so he's just kind of getting ahead of it all.
Yeah, it makes sense.
There's nothing wrong or anything.
seamus coughlin
He said, I need to go out for a drink.
phil labonte
He's boozing.
I gotta deal with that.
He's not drinking Bud Light.
seamus coughlin
Of course not.
brett dasovic
Not after that Sam Seder interview.
seamus coughlin
But I do think, to the question that the super chatter had, I mean, I believe it's possible men vote more on election day.
I don't know, but I'm just pretty sure overall women tend to vote more than men, which is why, fellas, you gotta get out there.
Because from what I understand, Harris does lead a bit with women.
Men, you gotta get out there and vote.
Gotta get out there and vote.
unidentified
If all the women are voting, who's making the sandwiches?
seamus coughlin
The men are at home.
If you don't go out and vote, you are staying home making sandwiches for your wife or girlfriend.
That's what's happening.
If you're not going out and voting, that's what I'm going to assume about you.
You're not a patriot and you're making the sandwiches.
brett dasovic
You're a sandwich maker.
phil labonte
Small peepee.
Small peepee.
Let's see.
TechBear says, torn between watching this or a Jason Richardson live stream.
Jason Richardson is great, man.
I mean, I understand.
If you want a little break from politics, go watch Jason.
But I mean, you should watch this later because it'll be on YouTube.
I'm not sure if Jason's streams stick around.
I assume he's streaming on, hopefully he's streaming on YouTube and not on Twitch.
But regardless, you can watch both of us at some point.
Kelly K. Jeffrey says, Tim, congrats on the new addition.
We'd like to add it is fitting that the election is on November 5th.
Remember, remember the 5th of November.
We will pass that message on to Tim.
I promise.
unidentified
What happens on the 5th of November?
phil labonte
That's the election day.
But also remember, remember the 5th of November is the from V for Vendetta, which was it's funny.
Guy Fawkes.
Yeah, Guy Fawkes when he wanted to install a Catholic theocracy in England.
So it's it's funny that there's all the anonymous people wearing Guy Fawkes masks.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, it's particularly.
Man, that movie got it wrong.
It's still great, though.
I'm pretty sure the author's an anarchist, and all of the people who worship Guy Fawkes are these Reddit-style atheists.
It's like, no, dude, he's trying to install Catholic theocracy.
He's not your ally.
phil labonte
Yeah.
Sam Uri said, You get a C-minus on Cedar this morning, Tim.
You were right, but you gave in not fighting him on the crime stats, especially the defunding affecting states.
That set the pace for the rest of the convo on Cedar's terms.
Well, you know.
unidentified
Gotta pick your battles.
They went over a lot of different stuff.
And there's a lot of times where one thing will become the two-hour show, and you don't want that.
They wanted to have a variety of topics to talk about.
seamus coughlin
And Sam gave him a bag of candy.
brett dasovic
That was his plan all along.
Tim was going to keep going, and then he saw the candy.
unidentified
He's like, ugh!
Gotta be nice!
phil labonte
D. Grizz says, I firmly believe Phil is all that remains to host the most popular live political show on the internet.
unidentified
This could be Beardcast.
phil labonte
Beardcast.
I mean, it could be.
I mean, we've got some beards.
It's true.
unidentified
It's true.
I shouldn't have shaved mine.
phil labonte
DJ Medaros says, remember, you can vote your way into socialism, but you have to something your way out.
From George Orwell, I think you all understand what we're talking about here.
And I'm not going to say it just because, you know, YouTube is cranky.
XLBXButcher says, I want to marry that ginger.
I think he's too late, isn't he?
unidentified
Yeah, just about a year too late.
Next time.
Next time.
phil labonte
I'm too slow.
Gage Newby says, as a ginger, I got to call Chrissy a transginger.
unidentified
I am a transgender.
Do they have, like, touch of red?
Like, they've got touch of gray for men?
They do sell, like, red spray, like, if you're getting brutes.
Like, I don't have grays, but, like, you could spray.
I don't know.
Weird.
phil labonte
Darius Albain says, What we know about Nazism was only allowed to be analyzed from the viewpoint of everything they said was a lie.
That is why people think Nazism is...
From the right when everything they did was leftist but focused on race.
You know, I don't know that I want to engage in that argument right now, but I do, I am sympathetic to the idea that totalitarian governments tend to be, totalitarian governments that are not, that are not theocracies tend to be from the left.
But Nazism was a little, was kind of unique because there was a lot of traditionalism that they were trying, that they were at least hearkening back to.
seamus coughlin
Well, I think a main key point to remember is you absolutely can't have right-wing philosophies, and I think many of them even demand that you have smaller, more limited, more local governments.
I mean, leftism requires totalitarianism to function because it's so contrary to human nature that somebody has to be enforcing the new normal.
brett dasovic
Policy's so good, they have to mandate it.
phil labonte
Exactly, exactly.
Amos Moses says, Timcast, hosted by Phil, is filtering out the BS coming from Shimcast.
I don't know why people are stirring the pot like, we got some beef.
seamus coughlin
Dude, they just want to make a rivalry between us.
phil labonte
We have no beef.
seamus coughlin
There's zero beef.
There's such little beef, we're vegetarian over here.
unidentified
It's a vegan situation.
seamus coughlin
Exactly.
Bill Gates synthetic meat.
phil labonte
Violet Brandini says, easily my favorite TimCast episode panel.
Love you, Chrissy.
unidentified
Violet!
Thank you.
phil labonte
Let's see.
Jamie.
I think it says Jamie Broccoli.
unidentified
Brocodile.
phil labonte
Brocodile.
brett dasovic
Close enough.
phil labonte
Awesome show tonight.
Can this panel, Tim and Tim obviously, be the regulars now?
Chrissy's a great ad, but you all need more jam nights.
Save the crocodile.
Save the crocodile.
Hashtag Save the Crocodile.
unidentified
I don't know what Brock...
It's Brockodile, but I don't know what that means.
I don't know if that's just his name.
I don't...
A crocodile wearing a bra.
We'll do.
We'll save them.
We'll save them.
phil labonte
So, alright.
Smash that like button.
Share this show with your friends.
And make sure you go over to TimCast.com and join up.
If you like the work that we do here, spread the word.
Join the Discord.
Come and hang out with like-minded people.
And Chrissy, do you have anything you want to shout out?
unidentified
Ooh, yeah.
Subscribe to my YouTube channel.
I am so close to 100,000, so I would appreciate that.
Yeah, and watch SimCast on Sundays on my channel.
That's 9 p.m.
Eastern.
And I have a show called Nightlife Thursdays at 9 p.m.
Eastern.
And then, of course, Friday Night Tights Fridays on Nerdrotic's channel at 4 p.m.
Eastern.
seamus coughlin
I agree.
Get her up to 100,000.
Also, get out and vote.
And please, go over to FreedomTunes.com.
Become a member.
Help us to make more cartoons.
Go over to YouTube.com slash FreedomTunes and check out our newest cartoon.
I think you guys will really enjoy it.
It's about Kamala's wonderful feminist husband who's redefining masculinity.
Let's just say you'll have to see it to believe it.
It's a fun one.
phil labonte
MMA fight.
unidentified
Also, tomorrow...
seamus coughlin
The Rocky montage bit you had yesterday was killing me.
phil labonte
Great!
unidentified
Also, tomorrow I'm having Ann Coulter on my podcast.
phil labonte
Oh, that's awesome.
That's great.
unidentified
Good old buddy Ann.
seamus coughlin
So you platform bigots?
unidentified
All the time.
All the time.
Yeah, tomorrow at 5.30.
brett dasovic
All right, guys, please go over to Pop Culture Crisis on YouTube.
We are normally five days a week, Monday through Friday, 3 p.m.
Eastern Standard Time.
This all can be very depressing.
Politics can be very depressing.
We have a lot of fun over there.
Next week, we will actually be off because during the election, we will be moving the studio over from our old location.
We're coming over here to Freedama Stand, so I will be spending that week getting that studio set up.
So we're looking forward to that.
But you can check out all of the clips on the channel.
So go and follow us over there.
It is a great break from politics.
If you want to follow me, Instagram and Twix, at Brett Dastavik on both of those platforms.
Thank you, guys.
phil labonte
I am PhilThatRemains on Twix.
I'm PhilThatRemainsOfficial on Instagram.
And like I said, keep an eye out for clips all this weekend.
There will be no after show because it's Friday.
So we're all going to go drink beers or something like that.
unidentified
So you got to do the screen.
seamus coughlin
After show is free.
brett dasovic
Yes, you're on the screen.
phil labonte
All right.
unidentified
Yeah!
phil labonte
I haven't warmed up.
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