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Comedian Andrew Schultz recently had Donald Trump on his podcast.
And following this, one of his shows got canceled.
The venue was like, you know, not for us, not for us.
We don't know for sure that he got canceled because he interviewed Donald Trump.
But what's interesting is that he said following the interview, he started getting looks on the street from people who were giving him that nod.
And he's like, you know, man, Trump's gonna win in a landslide.
Now, I suppose it would be embarrassing if that doesn't happen, but I don't think he cares.
He's a comedian, so he's trying to be shocking and funny.
But the reason why I think this is interesting is with everything going on right now, when you've got – Andrew Schultz is not some right-wing conservative political guy.
He's just a comedian.
He's well-known.
He goes on Joe Rogan.
He's got a podcast.
Joe doesn't go in this territory.
But Andrew Schultz is more of like a normal guy.
You know, he's not afraid to be offensive.
But when he's saying that he's seeing regular people, this reminds me of 2016.
That's why I think it's worth talking about.
I heard from a lot of friends of mine that they said as much as the media kept saying Hillary Clinton was going to win, on the ground, they kept seeing Trump signs and regular people.
And they were for Donald Trump.
I don't think this is because she was bombing the interview, but she was late to the interview in the first place.
I think it's because they didn't have enough time.
But why she went on Fox News in the first place, I don't know.
But Democrat media is actually making fun of Brad Bair for some reason.
Now, the real big story from today, which is rather silly, is that Biden and Obama were seen talking to each other at a funeral.
And everyone's trying to lip read what they were saying because it sounds like they're saying something like Kamala Harris can't win.
We don't know for sure because people, you're not really a lip reader, but everyone thinks they are.
So we're going to talk about all that.
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Natalie Winters.
natalie winters
Hi, thank you so much for having me.
I am the co-host turned, I guess, temporary host of Stephen K. Bannon's War Room, and it is always a pleasure to be with y'all.
tim pool
Right on.
We got this guy over here.
What's he doing?
elad eliahu
Hey everybody, what's up?
My name is Elad Eliyahu.
I'm a field correspondent.
I cover political rallies, protests, riots.
Libby, what's up?
libby emmons
I'm Libby Emmons.
I'm here.
I'm glad to be with everyone.
It's been a minute.
I'm with the Postmillennial and Human Events.
seamus coughlin
Seamus Coughlin, creator, founder of Freedom Tunes.
If you guys want to go over there, we just released a video today that people are loving about what Kamala's strategy is going to be moving forward, how she can still win.
tim pool
Your magnum opus.
seamus coughlin
You might say so.
tim pool
You tell me that every week.
seamus coughlin
Every week.
tim pool
We just keep doing better.
seamus coughlin
We just keep doing better.
tim pool
This is why I swear.
seamus coughlin
They just keep getting better and better.
I only send you that like once a month because once a month, you know, we try to top ourselves.
tim pool
That's right.
He's like, Tim, can you retweet this?
It's my magnum opus.
seamus coughlin
I never say that.
That's just a thinly veiled subtext.
tim pool
That's right.
That's right.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Here's the story from the Daily Beast.
Andrew Schultz predicts landslide Trump win after podcast appearance.
Well, I know many of you, you're saying, well, who is this guy?
He's just some comedian.
What does he matter?
He matters substantially more than like all the pollsters and pundits.
Sorry, that's true.
Now, I will admit...
Andrew Schultz may be the first guy to say something like, yo, I'm just a comedian on a podcast.
I don't know what I'm talking about.
So he does an interview with Donald Trump.
And then he says that he starts getting these looks.
He's saying it's not close anymore.
Before he came on, I was like, he ain't got no chance.
He's coming on here.
He's got to be down bad.
Then he says, in a newly posted recap, afterwards, since the interview uploaded, he's gotten to peek into just how many people still support Trump.
It was the looks on the street.
It was like, you know, when someone who's trying to sell you drugs, they give you this nod, he explained.
That's all I've been getting for the last week.
I think there are a lot of secret Trump voters.
And the reason why I think this story actually matters more than more than pundits, podcasters.
Look, we're obviously in support of Donald Trump.
Critical of Kamala Harris.
The Democrats are clearly critical of Trump supporting Kamala Harris.
So most people assume, yeah, of course, the people on the right are going to say, I think Trump's going to win.
The people on the left saying Kamala is going to win.
When you look at the pundits and the pollsters, they're weighted.
The pollsters are always biased in favor.
They're usually biased in favor of Democrats and pundits are going to go in the same direction.
So I actually think it's important to look to look to normies because this is who Trump and Kamala are trying to convince.
Andrew Schultz, funny guy, not overtly political, interviews Donald Trump.
It's kind of a funny show.
And afterwards, he says the reaction was massively positive.
What we would have expected in the culture war was that somebody would be like, oh, I can't interview Trump because it's going to be the end of my career.
Now it's, wow, people are giving me nods on the street.
It is inverted from where we were oh so long ago.
You combine this with the failure of the Fox News interview that Kamala Harris had and the current poly market showing Donald Trump is up in the betting odds.
About 23 points in aggregate, up like 16 or 17% on RealClearPolitics.
And I think it's fair to say, regular people ignore the noise, ignore the pundits, regular people outright are saying it's a Donald Trump victory.
Now I know immediately everyone's gonna be like, you better get out and vote and don't assume Donald Trump's gonna win, but I'm curious if you guys agree on that assessment.
natalie winters
Well, I think it was very interesting.
There was a long profile piece in The Guardian today talking about how this sentiment, I think, is shared not just among the comedians of the world, but a lot of Democrats, state and local officials have been already sort of creating and drafting contingency plans should President Trump, when they're melting down, that mass deportations may materialize along with a lot of his other policies.
And it's sort of a more flushed out version of what people may know.
That was the Transition Integrity Project back in 2020, where they were focused on trying to make sure that President Trump couldn't win.
But now they're more focused on what would happen if he did win.
So I think there's a significant tell there.
And of course, the Axios scoop that broke last week, showing that a lot of House Democrats are already sort of gossiping behind the scenes, saying that they may refuse to certify election results.
libby emmons
Yeah, that was fascinating.
natalie winters
Right, with Jamie Raskin being the top quote.
tim pool
He said it.
Raskin said in February, we will not certify a Trump victory.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
natalie winters
But there's a lot of movement, I think, coming from the GOP, the RN, so state-level GOPs, and then the RNC coming to try to prevent election fraud, which we're obviously all very critical of.
But there's a lot of interesting, I think, developments on the front, particularly of the overseas vote.
Mainstream media is melting down that GOP, RNC committee members are suing over that.
But I do think it is concerning to me that Oh, that's crazy.
How does that work?
Peter Schweitzer is a great, great journalist.
So I think when you see numbers like that, you know, it sort of comes back to the question of, you know, I wish it were a fair election, but it's more, I always call it ballot warfare than it is a free and fair vote.
seamus coughlin
That's a really good way of putting it, ballot warfare.
I said this on the show.
I said that exact thing on the show yesterday, actually.
I called it ballot warfare.
tim pool
Yeah, she actually stole your quote.
seamus coughlin
No, no, no.
unidentified
I did a ballot warfare special edition of War Room many months ago.
seamus coughlin
I'm totally messing with you.
I stole that from you.
But at least I didn't steal an election, right?
So, what I was saying yesterday was, even if it looks like Trump is ahead, we gotta get out there and we gotta vote.
Like, every illegal alien is voting.
Like, they're harvesting ballots, right?
We need to just prepare for the absolute worst case scenario.
It's gotta be too big to rig.
It's gotta be too big to rig.
libby emmons
Well, that's the most fascinating thing about this election, and that's what I've been talking to a lot of people about, is no one hasn't made up their mind who they like better.
You know, maybe there's like five people in the entire country who are like, oh, I don't know, Kamala Trump, I don't know.
Which one would it be?
So the entire effort is about getting people out to vote for your guy.
That's what's been so amazing about like what Charlie Kirk is doing with Turning Point Action.
Have you seen some of the footage of him going to these universities?
He had like a 22- Stop tour of universities this fall, colleges and universities.
And if you've been following his work, like the past couple of years, he goes out and there's a ton of protesters.
Now he goes out and he convinces kids that they want to vote for Trump.
And then they throw MAGA hats at everybody and everyone's cheering for Trump.
And they're like, wait, I want to buy a house.
I don't want illegal immigrants taking my job.
tim pool
To your point, exactly that.
You used to see these big protests when they would do these college events.
Now it's mostly young guys going like, Trump, yeah, and there's very few dissidents arguing with them.
And they're not very good at arguing with them.
libby emmons
They try, but they can't actually maintain a point because they don't have enough information.
tim pool
But look, following the Kamala Harris bomb of an interview on Fox News, which no sane person thinks she did well.
I'm sorry.
Anybody who says she did well, Mark Cuban is lying.
unidentified
I don't get it.
seamus coughlin
What is going on with him?
libby emmons
You could say, if you were pro-Kamala, you could say that Bret Baier was harassing her.
seamus coughlin
No, but he so wasn't.
libby emmons
I don't agree with it, but we were joking about it before the show.
That's what people are saying.
People are like, oh, he was in her face, and he was rude, and all of this stuff, and she came off right after the interview.
tim pool
But you said you could say that.
libby emmons
You could say that.
tim pool
You can't say that.
libby emmons
People have been saying it's a victory for her.
tim pool
Of course they are, but there's no basis for saying that.
Brett Baer's first question was, how many illegal immigrants do you think your administration has released in this country since it began?
That's a straightforward, basic question.
None of these are gotchas.
And I'll explain.
A gotcha is when, if Brett Baer said...
You've said that Donald Trump is unstable.
And she goes, yes, he is.
Do you think that if a president is showing these behaviors of instability or mental decline, the 25th Amendment should be invoked to remove them?
And she goes, absolutely.
And then he goes, like Joe Biden, when you noticed he was in mental decline.
Why didn't you?
That's how you gotcha.
He didn't do any of that.
libby emmons
No, I agree with you on that.
natalie winters
It's only a gotcha because her record sucks.
libby emmons
Yeah, her record sucks, so it's a gotcha.
It's not a gotcha.
I agree with you on that because I really wanted him to press her not on the questions that he wanted to ask, but on the answers she was giving.
Like when he said, you know, what would you turn the page on?
And she basically said rhetoric and mean tweets.
seamus coughlin
Which is hilarious.
libby emmons
How about you press on that, Brett?
Like, what is she talking about?
What lasts 10 years?
She's been in office for three and a half.
Trump's been out of office.
She's complaining that he's been running this whole time.
But that's because Biden and Kamala Harris suck.
You know what I mean?
Like, press her on her answers.
And instead, he was really married to what he wanted to ask instead of what she was saying.
seamus coughlin
I think that's totally fair.
I think he also probably knew that he wasn't going to have that much time with her, and so he wanted to get to a number of different questions.
There were a few issues, but overall, I think he did a pretty good job.
Again, I also would have appreciated it if he pressed her more, but it's easy for me to Monday morning quarterback him when he was sitting across from the vice president.
I don't think so.
libby emmons
I mean, you do interviews.
You know how to do an interview.
seamus coughlin
I've never interviewed Kamala Harris.
I don't think I could talk to her.
My ears would be like Trump's ears.
They'd be covered in bandages after I spoke to that woman for a half hour.
libby emmons
Well, she is hard to listen to.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, she's very hard to listen to.
I just want to make this one point about the interview.
One of the issues is that Kamala, she hasn't figured out how to brand herself.
They're going back and forth between the adults are back in charge and I'm anti-establishment and I'm going to change things.
Biden was really clearly the establishment candidate.
He was proud of that.
They discussed him in those terms.
She's trying to discuss this as if she's an anti-establishment candidate, but she's from the current administration.
And one final note I'll add is all the people who are saying she looked good in this interview think that men can get pregnant.
So their opinions don't really matter.
They're not in contact with reality.
All that matters is the agenda.
libby emmons
That's what we're dealing with.
natalie winters
The counter-programming from MSNBC was that Brett was – or people were saying that Kamala looked angry.
They're saying it was because Americans can't handle a strong black woman because, of course, that was their initial commentary after – Also, we're all sexist, Natalie.
Well, of course.
But you know their deaths, but they also wheeled out Rachel Maddow last night to drop another, as she described, bombshell drop on President Trump having to do with trying to negotiate.
I think it was like $20,000 off of Stormy Daniels' legal bills in exchange for an NDA. That was their big scoop.
But I will say it is interesting.
tim pool
Well, that convinced me.
unidentified
I think Kamala did win that debate now.
natalie winters
It is interesting to me, though, if you read the Jack Smith filing and I think sort of the big narrative on how they are setting up or at least kind of making us think that President Trump is going to steal the 2024 election.
This concept of a red mirage, right, turning into a blue wave.
They say that a lot of the way, again, this is like MSNBC talking, but that President Trump is trying to create the illusion of success is that, oh, we're surging in the polls, we're doing so well, which I do think is accurate and true.
But it is funny to me when I see left wing media outlets carry that narrative because they're sort of in some ways helping the Trump campaign from their perspective of being able to give the Trump campaign ground to say that if there is a red mirage right where they're ahead on election night, but then it flips because of the mass amounts of mail and ballots that always seem to cut one way with a weird statistical anomaly only for Democrats.
That's That's why, to me, I get weirded out when I see, for instance, Politico yesterday running that long profile piece about how the Harris campaign is in shambles in Pennsylvania, because I don't think Democrats typically project weakness, especially in the context of leaning into Trump's abilities to, as they would say, claim election fraud.
elad eliahu
I think Kamala Harris even going for this Fox News interview speaks to the flailing of the campaign.
I think this is a desperate attempt by some in the Kamala Harris campaign to reach out to Republicans, but I don't think this is an effective way of doing it.
She also held a rally on this same day in Pennsylvania where she had many former Republican congressmen come and endorse her.
It was including Adam Kinzinger, Lauren Comstock, former Republicans.
But I don't think this is going to be effective for her campaign at all with this Republican outreach.
As far as the spin that we're seeing from the left with this Brett Baer interview, I'm reading a headline from the New York Times.
It says, Kamala Harris arrived for a Fox interview.
She got a debate.
That has to be the spin.
But from any other perspective, any interview that Donald Trump sits down for is at least this antagonistic.
And the interviewee would get praised for being so harsh on Trump.
tim pool
Let's jump into the story from the Daily Beast.
Fox News' Brett Baier whines about Harris after bad-tempered interview.
So, he didn't.
I'll play the clip for you, and you can hear it for yourself.
unidentified
Dana, I'll give you a little behind-the-scenes here.
I know you love this, and it fits in with Dana Reid Sports.
You know, when the kicker in football, they call a timeout.
Right before he's going to kick the field goal.
They're icing the kicker.
So we were supposed to start at 5 p.m.
This was the time they gave us.
Originally, we were going to do 25 or 30 minutes.
They came in and said, well, maybe 20.
So it was already getting whittled down.
And then the vice president showed up about 5.15.
We were pushing the envelope to be able to turn it around for the top of the 6 o'clock.
So that's how it started.
And I could tell when we started talking that she was going to be tough to redirect without me trying to interrupt.
I did this with President Obama.
At one point I just said, Mr.
President, I know you like the filibuster.
I just didn't even have the chance to sometimes redirect in those ways.
tim pool
So I wouldn't consider it at all to be whining, but this is how the corporate press is framing this.
I should say the Democrat media industrial complex.
The one thing I would say on this is that, you know, now that I think about it, Brett Baier probably should have just let her keep talking.
He should have asked her the question and then just shut up until she shut up, because then she would have spent 10 minutes saying not a single word.
That would be the interview.
seamus coughlin
This is one thing the media does a lot, and it's just because the left does this a lot, is they'll take words that in their estimation have been historically used to insult and dismiss women and then use them for men.
So we see this like, he was whining, he was weak.
In reality, when you watch that speech, Kamala Harris was very emotional and irrational.
People are afraid to say that because if you're calling a woman emotional and irrational, you're a sexist.
But she was.
She was being very emotional the entire time.
She couldn't answer a question without getting upset.
She was stumbling over her words.
She was clearly flustered.
And you have headlines from Newsweek saying that she dominated Bret Baier and the debate.
These people don't see language as something that exists to communicate truth.
They see it as a tool for getting what they want.
libby emmons
That's why they keep changing what words mean.
seamus coughlin
Exactly.
So they're smearing Brett Baer here.
He's whining, even though he's just stating the truth, giving some behind-the-scenes information about the interview.
They said Kamala Harris dominated, even though it was so optically horrible that she dropped four points in the betting market the day after this interview.
They're claiming that it was a debate when all he did was ask her very fair, very straightforward questions.
He didn't dig up information about her past that she wasn't prepared to discuss.
He didn't have some surprise that he was going to hit her with that she hasn't heard from some other interview.
All he did was ask really basic questions that any other journalist would have asked her if she had had access to any or more likely, I should say, if any journalist had had access to her because she has refused to speak to anyone who won't worship at the ground that she walks.
libby emmons
You know, you're giving her too much credit because at first she wouldn't speak to anyone, right?
seamus coughlin
Nobody, even people friendly to her.
libby emmons
They were really just hoping to coast right back into the White House or stay in the White House based on this whole vibe brat summer thing.
That's what they were really going for.
And it wasn't until, what, the end of August when finally she had to give an interview to, what was it, Dana Bash?
Excuse me.
Very desperate.
natalie winters
Very desperate.
So I think it does show you how desperate the surrogates are if they're unintentionally leaning into the gender stuff, trying to frame it as like, oh man was mean to woman, it's sexism.
In the same vein that I think they loved having the two female debate moderators for the VP debate.
So when J.D. Vance tried to, you know, talk over the, you know, not fact check, fact check, it was a moment of, I believe as the mainstream media called it, of mansplaining.
But they have this weird trope that they think that women for some reason are going to resonate with, you know, powerful women being spoken down to by men and having to, you know, speak back.
And I don't really know who that's resonating with except people who are squarely in the Harris camp.
libby emmons
I think it's resonating with people who are substantially older than Kamala Harris.
I think that resonates with people in my mom's generation.
You know, like my mom was a corporate attorney, and she spoke to me a lot about how difficult it was being like the only woman in the firm who did the kind of work that she did and etc, etc.
But she's in her 70s.
Kamala Harris is, you know, also much older.
So what is, you know...
That's not something that I think, for the most part, women of my generation or your generation or anywhere in between would really have to deal with.
That's not something we've had to deal with.
natalie winters
No, it's too much the opposite.
libby emmons
Yeah.
natalie winters
We're too empowered.
seamus coughlin
Exactly.
Well, that speaks to a point that I want to make here, and this is probably going to be considered an offensive point by many people, but I don't care because it's obviously true.
And anyone who claims it isn't is either lying or lying to themselves.
But while it is true, That women don't want to be necessarily bossed around and told what to do by men.
What women really, really, really don't want is to be told what to do by other women.
Women do not like being bossed around by another woman.
If your wife or girlfriend or mother or any woman you've been close to has worked in an office with a female boss or female co-workers, they will express to you their displeasure in being told what to do by these other women.
So when Kamala Harris is condescending and talks down to men, women don't see that and go, oh, one point for team woman.
They look at that and they say, that's how this woman is going to be talking to me as a citizen for the next four years if she's president of the United States.
And as it turns out, women don't like being condescended to and spoken down to by other women.
tim pool
Do you think that there is an inherent thing that men and women both have where they're just predisposed to prefer listening to men over women?
seamus coughlin
Yeah, absolutely.
tim pool
Ladies, who do you think?
libby emmons
I don't think so.
No.
natalie winters
I find most women broadcasters kind of annoying, which I'm aware is hypocritical, though.
tim pool
But I mean leadership positions like...
I have a theory.
natalie winters
I think it's maybe more derived from people who aren't deserving of their leadership position, and I think there are more women who are in leadership positions that don't necessarily deserve those roles.
They got their own sort of false pretenses, where I think if you're a straight white dude, you had to work ten times as hard to get there.
libby emmons
Think about Tulsi Gabbard.
Would we be having these kinds of conversations about Tulsi Gabbard leading the country?
I don't think so.
seamus coughlin
She's also not shrill and condescending.
elad eliahu
I kind of think she is.
libby emmons
I don't think it's...
You're just sexist.
elad eliahu
Well, she's coming for your guns.
I don't understand this fetishization we have with Tulsi Gabbard, especially on the right.
When at the base of it, so many of the...
tim pool
Her gun position that you're citing like four years old.
elad eliahu
Does she not believe in the gun position anymore?
tim pool
Yeah, not anymore.
elad eliahu
What is your current gun position?
tim pool
Two or three years ago, she came out saying that she was wrong on the issue and she was doing some kind of 2A thing.
elad eliahu
Okay, well, I disagree with her on more than just that issue, but I think on the right, generally, we're too quick to go with somebody who, hey, they wanted to come for all your guns four years ago.
We support them more than we do somebody who said, hey, I don't want to come for your guns ever for the past couple of decades, but...
seamus coughlin
Hey, no, I actually think that's fair.
elad eliahu
The redemption idea, we love that on the right, this idea of redemption.
seamus coughlin
I agree.
tim pool
The question of whether or not someone would be willing to vote for a woman has nothing to do with Kamala or Tulsi.
The question is, I think it's a fact that there are a lot of guys and women in this country who would not vote for a woman no matter who it was.
libby emmons
I think that's true.
natalie winters
Harris is not accepting or making the female part of her identity a big part of her campaign.
She never talks about it.
She never wears dresses.
She's always dressed like a dude.
You could barely tell based off, I think, of her mannerisms and a lot of the way that she acts that she's going out of her way.
Frankly, she almost comes off as gender neutral.
It's a weird spin.
libby emmons
Because on top of everything else, the pantsuits are beige.
tim pool
I really do think gender dynamics play a role in such that we do not have the sales development for how a woman needs to be publicly loved like a Donald Trump figure.
So let me elaborate.
We have had generations upon generations of male presidential candidates and how they need to act to win favor.
We have not had that for female candidates.
I believe it is possible.
But when they send out Kamala and tell her to act like a man, it does not work.
When AOC went up at a rally and she was screaming and yelling and hooting, she got made fun of for it.
Now, for sure, you could be like, what was that, Howard Dean or whatever, who did the yeehaw?
Yeah, the whoop.
Yeah, whatever that was.
libby emmons
It was a yop.
It was the Howard Dean yop.
tim pool
That ended his career.
seamus coughlin
Just done.
tim pool
So anybody can act bad on stage.
seamus coughlin
Don't say yop.
tim pool
I think it is fair that, you know, if you look at Kamala and you look at Hillary, they laugh all the time.
And I think it's because they're...
You know, focus groups or whatever.
They're like, you can't be stern like a man.
You have to laugh all the time.
And that's why the two major female contenders we've had in the past, in ever actually, have a laughing problem.
I think they're being told to do it.
natalie winters
I also think maybe they don't understand femininity in the same way that you see how they project what masculinity is.
I think most evidenced by that recent ad they put out, right?
They have...
They can't put their finger on the pulse of what it means is this distorted sense of it.
I think there's this kind of similar perversion in terms of their understanding of womanhood, girlhood, whatever you want to call it.
seamus coughlin
it.
Yeah, I'll add this too.
So my theory on this, because men constantly complain that people don't listen to men, women constantly complain that people don't listen to women.
My theory is it's true and false in different contexts.
So I believe that women are listened to when they complain, they're not often listened to when they offer solutions.
I think men are not listened to when they complain, but they are listened to when they offer solutions.
So when a woman is complaining, and a man who complains isn't heard, who's, He'll go, no one ever listens to us, right?
But when he starts offering solutions, he's actually more likely to be listened to.
And I think that's built into our nature as humans.
libby emmons
What about somebody like, you know, putting her policies aside?
What about someone with the demeanor of like Condoleezza Rice?
seamus coughlin
It's been so long since I've seen her speak.
tim pool
Will men vote for her?
libby emmons
Yeah, would men vote for Condoleezza Rice?
She has a totally different vibe than either Kamala Harris or Hillary Clinton.
tim pool
I supported Tulsi Gabbard in 2019.
I thought she was the best the Democrats had to offer, and I want to see someone with a military background as commander-in-chief, as they're the commander-in-chief and chief diplomat.
But I can respect Donald Trump trade and negotiation skills, too.
That's good, but I would prefer someone who served in the military, as Tulsi has.
But regardless of all that, I still believe that there's a large portion of this country that are going to be like, I'm voting for a woman, no matter what.
And I think it transcends age and demographic.
natalie winters
Consciously or subconsciously?
tim pool
Consciously.
Like, I can't remember who we were talking to.
libby emmons
Like, no one wants to vote for their mom to be president.
tim pool
Who were we talking to?
Do you guys remember?
They said that they were doing Man on the Street interviews, talking to young black men.
Asked them, who were you voting for?
libby emmons
Was it Don Lemon?
Don Lemon was doing this.
tim pool
Well, he's degrading them.
But what I heard is...
Actually, I might have been talking to Lisa about this.
These young men are like, I'm voting for Trump.
And it's like, why is that voting for Trump?
I don't want a woman president.
That was it.
That was the reason.
And if you look at stereotypes and tropes, I just think that there's going to be a lot of guys who are going to be like, no way.
Not going to happen.
libby emmons
You think that's an American thing?
tim pool
No, I think it's a gender thing.
I don't think it matters where it comes from.
libby emmons
In the UK, there was Margaret Thatcher, and she had a lot of...
tim pool
Did they vote directly for Margaret Thatcher, or did they vote for the party, and the party appointed her?
libby emmons
Yeah, they voted for the party.
tim pool
Exactly.
libby emmons
Yeah.
What about Indira Gandhi?
Wasn't she voted for?
tim pool
I'm not saying there will never be a female leader.
There are many female leaders all over the place.
libby emmons
No, I'm just curious about it.
tim pool
I'm saying that there's a portion of the population, and it's probably transcending culture, that don't want to vote for women.
That's interesting.
And it's funny because this is actually a leftist opinion, though the left gets mad at me for saying it.
Women presume men to be in leadership roles.
Women will vote for a man.
Men presume women not to be in leadership roles.
Some of them will still vote for women, but a lot won't.
And I think the best example of this is, if what I was saying is wrong, the Harris campaign and her allies would not have invested so much in making multiple, I'm a man, so I'm voting for a woman.
You should too, ads.
What do they have, three or four of them now?
libby emmons
Well, and yeah, not just them, but like super PACs that are, you know, Exactly.
tim pool
They know that there's a problem with men who will not vote for a woman, so they're trying to run ads where it's like, I'm a man, and I'm not scared of a woman, so I'm going to vote for one.
I'm like, dude, who are you convincing?
libby emmons
Yeah, those ads aren't convincing anybody.
They're just hysterical.
They're like SNL parody sketches.
seamus coughlin
One thing I also heard—this is another thing to consider.
Even if you're a woman who wants for there to be a woman president— We're
good to go.
And I think that that's how a lot of women feel.
I don't want it to be Kamala.
libby emmons
Well, and I think you wouldn't want it to be Hillary Clinton either.
seamus coughlin
Of course not.
libby emmons
Because in both of those situations, it's someone who is selected, not someone who came up through the ranks, you know?
seamus coughlin
It's also fair.
libby emmons
I mean, who was the first woman that ran for president?
Charlie Schism?
unidentified
Wasn't it Charlie Schism?
seamus coughlin
I knew that.
Yeah, definitely.
I'm super into that.
libby emmons
And she obviously didn't win or anything, but she was at least a candidate who was selected by her constituents.
Yeah.
tim pool
Let's jump to the story from the New York Post.
We got this one.
Biden tells Obama she's not as strong as me and ex-president agrees that's true at Ethel Kennedy service.
That's not what they said.
That's presuming what they said.
So the real story is that Obama and Biden were talking to each other, but we could not hear anything they said.
Everyone's trying to pull off some lip reading.
To know the secrets.
Some have suggested that Joe Biden says something like, something about Kamala Harris and the chances, and Obama says, nope, she's done.
I don't know that he says that.
Others have said, nope, that's over.
I don't think anybody knows.
But it did look rather interesting.
Let me play the video for you.
And you can, for those that are watching, you can see.
For those that are listening, I'll just describe it.
There's no sound.
I mean, I can...
Yeah, it's just piano music.
And then...
Nope, that's not on.
He did not say that.
Like, I can't stand this body language lip-reading people.
unidentified
I know.
natalie winters
The biggest grifters.
tim pool
Right.
seamus coughlin
It's true.
tim pool
They're claiming he said, no, that's not on.
His mouth does not say on.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, I heard some people say that Obama was saying it's over to Joe Biden.
tim pool
That's gone.
That's done.
He's not saying on.
seamus coughlin
But it says unintelligible when you can't hear any of it.
It's like, no, but this part.
This part's unintelligible.
tim pool
Maybe she can.
She's not as strong as me.
No, you know what I think he says right here?
It looks like he might be saying, by the way.
natalie winters
Yeah.
tim pool
I thought he said by...
So I watched this without looking at any of these lip-reading things.
He taps him.
unidentified
By the way.
tim pool
Something, something, something.
We don't know.
But this was the big...
This is the actual big story of the day.
I didn't want to lead with it because it's not anything happening.
libby emmons
It's a little weird.
tim pool
Well, but it's like...
So what do you guys think?
The theory is that this is Obama telling Biden Kamala can't win.
libby emmons
So I look a lot...
I look a lot at when these guys are all giving speeches and talking and stuff because I transcribe it.
And usually I just transcribe it by hand because...
Whatever.
I hate the AI thing.
Anyways...
You can't always...
Their mouths don't look like the thing that they're saying.
It never does.
Whenever you're scanning through looking for exactly what they were saying.
tim pool
I think, you know, as Seamus, you're somebody who makes people's mouths move all the time with words, so you know exactly what they said.
seamus coughlin
No, actually, that's why I know that we have no idea.
Because one of the things that they teach you in animation school, but of course I knew long before animation school, is that...
You can lip sync with a remarkably limited number of phonemes.
You only need, like, really, if you want to get really low budget, like six or seven mouth shapes that you can combine into basically anything.
You know, the fewer shapes you have, the choppier it's going to look.
But it's really, really easy to fudge that.
There's just a set number of shapes we make with our mouth and it is really, really difficult to pull words from that just based on the visual alone.
That's why bad lip readings is so popular.
They can make people say a lot of things that we know they didn't say and it's hilarious and absurd.
tim pool
And there is a viral one, it's an AI audio, where Obama says that Kamala Harris is retarded.
And, you know, I actually am not amused by it because the first few seconds are actually spot on.
And I was like, it was scary how good it actually looked.
And that made me realize there probably is an AI program you could load this into, and it's going to be able to look at the way their mouths move and give you a 100% transcription.
The way all this AI stuff works is...
So you guys know how CAPTCHA works?
It'll be like, before you can go to this website, you gotta type in this word.
What you're actually doing is not passing a test.
You're teaching the AI. The company is using you as free labor to transcribe visual text into the word to tell the computer what the word is.
With that massive decentralized labor force, AI has been able to now read physical images, like actual images of written word.
If you were to load up every video ever...
With a transcription of someone talking, the AI would be able to then see what the mouth is moving and the words that are coming out.
So there is a program out there that can tell you exactly what these guys said.
You don't need a human to do it.
elad eliahu
Whether or not this is exactly what he says, and it'll be very hard to ever get down to the truth of it at all, I think this is a sentiment within the White House, definitely within Joe Biden's staff.
As the race continues to tighten, people are trying to get ready for the case of Kamala Harris losing in their minds and they kind of want to get ahead of it.
You know, Joe Biden is filled with rage that the idea that he probably had just as good a shot against Donald Trump than Kamala Harris did, all else equal.
So again, we're seeing the Kamala Harris, as we see more of the Kamala Harris campaign flailing, I think we'll see more of Joe Biden saying things like, yeah, I told you so, this was a dumb move all along.
natalie winters
I think it's also really just they're amping it up to be a story because I think it happens in the context of the ongoing kind of shade war between the different warring factions within the White House, right?
You got Bill Clinton like dissing Kamala Harris out on the campaign trail for what really should be a non-story, right?
It's a video that no one really knows what they're saying.
And I even think it's more interesting to suggest that right now they're like, Super buddy, buddy, or whatever, because I think it was just a few days ago, right, in Bob Woodward's new book, War, where Biden was bashing Obama, saying that it's like his fault that Ukraine has been melting down.
But yeah.
libby emmons
Yeah, the other piece of it, too, is that there's just, there's one giant story, and it's the election.
And no one knows what's happening with it.
No one knows what the answer is going to be.
So every day, people are just like, What's the answer going to be?
I don't know.
Here's an indication of what the answer might be.
But we still don't know what the answer is going to be.
So this is just part of that.
Some days, some news stories, there's one story.
That's what it's going to be like on Election Day.
We're all going to be sitting around all day going, there's one story.
We don't have the answer.
We're all glued to our...
Devices looking for it.
tim pool
I'm kind of hoping it'll just be something no one expected.
Just like a totally random thing.
Condoleezza Rice gets elected somehow.
And Trump and Biden become friends and both announce their resignations.
And they're starting a theme park together.
And we're just like, what is happening?
And then George W. Bush shows up and he's like, well, I'll take the job.
And then they're like, what?
But I'll be VP. And then Condoleezza is like, I'll be president.
And they all agree.
And then we're just sitting here just...
What is happening?
Obviously, I wouldn't want either of those people to be president.
I'm just saying it would be funny if some weird random thing happened.
libby emmons
Yeah, I mean, well, RFK is kind of still banking on that, right?
He's like, in some universe, I could potentially be president.
That's why I didn't withdraw.
I suspended in certain states, but I'm still kind of hoping for it.
elad eliahu
When it comes to alleged tension between the Joe Biden staff and Kamala Harris campaign, do you guys think that's more narrative or truth?
libby emmons
Oh, I think they probably don't like each other.
I mean, everyone knows Kamala Harris was picked because she was a black lady and had absolutely no other qualifications.
And that's got a rankle.
And then especially now that everyone kicked Joe Biden off the top of the ticket with no consideration.
And now nobody even knows if he's, you know, doing anything as part of his job.
He still talks about his cancer moonshot thing.
He did the quiet quitting.
He's really a Gen Z-er at heart.
tim pool
Joe Biden, quiet quit.
elad eliahu
So I don't know if the Kamala Harris campaign, for example, thinks like Joe Biden doing the Trump hat thing is probably him purposefully spiting them.
Same thing when he said DeSantis was doing a fine job or whatever.
libby emmons
Right, and DeSantis met with Biden, right?
But wouldn't meet with, wouldn't talk to Kamala Harris.
And then Kamala Harris and DeSantis were going at it.
elad eliahu
Sure, well, do you think Joe Biden's doing this stuff on purpose or Kamala Harris is just being sensitive over all of it?
libby emmons
I think that it's a little of both.
I think Joe Biden's probably like, what, you got what you wanted?
elad eliahu
Like, haven't you done enough?
libby emmons
Enjoy yourself, Kamala.
I hope you like it now.
natalie winters
There was reporting out today probing into the transition efforts of the Harris campaign.
And for most of the high-level positions, they were, I think, looking to basically ditch a lot of the Biden holdovers.
So I feel like from a political-speak standpoint, too, that sort of shows you the difference.
And, too, she said it last night on Fox.
I think the most blatantly that she ever has, you know, my administration will not be a continuation of Joe Biden.
elad eliahu
This is a very fragile Democrat coalition we're seeing here, not only with the moderates, but also on the far left with how pro-Israel Joe Biden and Kamala Harris has been.
So we will see the knives, figurative knives, come out following election day when Kamala Harris comes just short of becoming president.
libby emmons
And the other thing too is Biden wasn't allowed to pick his own vice presidential running mate.
He was basically told that he had to pick a black lady.
There was a short list of women that he was allowed to choose from.
elad eliahu
I think he put that contingency onto himself, though.
This was all a political move.
Maybe it was a political move.
He picked her because he thought it would help him win.
libby emmons
Sure.
elad eliahu
No, for sure.
So it's a political calculation strictly.
libby emmons
He wasn't able to pick who he thought would have been a better running mate.
elad eliahu
Well, with your vice presidential pick, I think it's all about winning when it comes down to it.
libby emmons
Sure, because that's the only...
I mean, ever since John Adams, like...
I mean, John Adams really did the vice presidency dirty by just saying, well, since me and George don't get along, I'm going to back off and let him do whatever he wants.
Like, that was a dumb move.
He should have actually...
He just showed up at Senate every day.
elad eliahu
Kamala Harris has been such a consequential VP, too, with her tie-breaking of votes, so...
libby emmons
Sure, well, that's in the mold of John Adams.
That's what he was doing.
unidentified
Ah, indeed.
seamus coughlin
But she's also the border czar.
Let's not forget.
elad eliahu
Also the border czar.
libby emmons
Yeah, with her one call to the president of Guatemala and then her office by June saying that's not our job.
tim pool
Do not come.
seamus coughlin
Do not come.
Did her job.
Yeah, crushed her.
elad eliahu
I'll have you guys know, she was the last one in the room for every major decision that Joe Biden made.
libby emmons
Including the withdrawal from Afghanistan.
seamus coughlin
She got there late.
libby emmons
Right.
You get in late.
You still gotta punch your time card.
seamus coughlin
That's what they meant.
She was the last one in the room.
libby emmons
Right.
tim pool
Indeed.
All right, ladies and gentlemen.
elad eliahu
Black people are always late, Seamus?
seamus coughlin
That's not what I was saying.
tim pool
You said that.
No, Charlamagne said that.
libby emmons
Charlamagne did say that.
tim pool
Charlamagne literally told that to Kamala Harris.
libby emmons
And she left.
elad eliahu
What was the context?
tim pool
She said, I was late by a few minutes.
And he was like, well, you are black.
seamus coughlin
Did he really say that?
tim pool
He really did.
It's a quote.
libby emmons
It was actually kind of funny.
tim pool
We're going to jump to this next story.
And we have it here from the Post Millennial.
Biden-Harris admin's disaster loan program tapped out after hurricanes.
But wait.
The next story.
Biden announces $425 million in military aid for Ukraine.
How could that be true?
You may not be very angry at this, so I'm going to play this video for you.
unidentified
So my mom lives across the street.
She's 92 years old and as I was trying to get her to the door, my husband looked out and he says, we can't get out.
We went to the back door and my husband got a foothold because the water was probably knee deep and he pushed me across the water to where I could get a foothold.
And then he got my mom and put her out where I could get hold of her hands and I pulled her to me.
And then I saw my house.
It was just like it picked up.
The water was over the top.
You could just see the eave.
Just like it floated away.
And as it went across, I think the tip end of my house hit my mom's house.
And the hearse just uprooted and it floated away.
We just lost both of them.
We are alive, which I'm so blessed and so grateful, but we've lived here 50 years and my mom had lived there 70 years and we've just never seen anything like this.
tim pool
So shout out to the Appalachian podcast.
And thank you for watching that short clip of this woman who is suffering.
It's brutal to watch.
And I hope you all are watching this.
I'm not sad.
I hope you're infuriated because the context is the loan program for disaster is tapped out.
But $425 million of American taxpayer money is flowing right over to Ukraine.
So I don't care what the reason is.
I don't care for the fact checkers to come out and say, but Tim, those are different funds.
And Congress has a- I don't care.
Congress should get their asses back to Washington, D.C. and make sure that little old lady can take care of her mom and they have houses before they give one penny to Ukraine.
seamus coughlin
You have to stop giving the benefit of the doubt to political actors who think that you're evil and that your way of life should be destroyed.
Right?
We have to look at this and we have to say, you know what?
Because we don't trust these people, there's only one answer to this.
The purpose of a system is what it does.
The purpose of this system that our leaders have developed is to send money to foreign countries and allow Americans to die.
natalie winters
It's not even America last.
It's quite literally America never, right?
seamus coughlin
America never.
natalie winters
And it's not even just the 425 million that they announced today, because this is all coming from what was it about a month ago when they were negotiating the CR, they were coming up against the deadline that the White House is going to have to appropriate the 8 billion in aid for Ukraine.
And it's so wild, right?
When they had an outstanding $8 billion worth of funds for Ukraine, instead of reappropriating it for the United States, they chose to a continue to administer it to Ukraine.
But it was October 2, as people like her were having her houses ripped away, that they actually gave several hundred million dollars via USAID to Ukraine for, I kid you not, storm preparation and winter weatherization efforts.
And remember, but it's so tone deaf.
You have Kamala Harris tweeting, oh, I'm giving $157 million to Lebanon.
And I think too, you know, as much as we could rank on how obvious it is that all they care about is Ukraine or Israel, any other country.
And It's very interesting, right, for all the what they claim to be bipartisan or independent NGO type activist groups that were busy giving upwards of a billion dollars, right, to election administration in 2020.
Now you see the continued reporting NBC out today saying that, oh, there's difficulties with voting, especially in rural counties in North Carolina.
You have David Axelrod celebrating that rural people probably won't That was so upsetting to watch that.
In North Carolina.
And then, of course, you have far left lawyer Mark Elias celebrating the ballot changes that they've instituted there.
But the hypocrisy there is just it's so glaring.
elad eliahu
Congressmen constantly argue that they can walk and chew gun at the same time when it comes to supporting Ukraine and supporting domestic issues that we have going on.
And I think it's and I hope it's true.
But if it is true, then they should hold themselves to that standard and actually deal with these other issues that Americans are facing.
I think support for Ukraine is important.
But you're opening yourself up to these very easy political attacks by not dealing with domestic issues at home while helping political attack.
natalie winters
It's Americans who aren't able to fix their houses, who are going without disaster relief funds.
And it's a southern border that there's reporting today.
A third of the cameras are inoperable and turned off.
So anyone can enter this country.
elad eliahu
I don't think these things are zero.
I think you could do both at the same time.
I believe Congress when they said that.
natalie winters
I think the point of the prioritization should be that you should put America first.
And when you're running out of funds, the disaster loan program in Ukraine is getting an additional $425 million today alone on top of $187 billion.
There's a very, very clear prioritization going on that's putting Ukraine first.
And the further proof is that when they're debating the CR last time, They said, if you want the border funding, you have to have Ukraine funding too.
You have to have funding for Taiwan and Israel too.
seamus coughlin
Not just Ukraine funding, but only one-fifth of the budget can actually be dedicated towards improving the situation at the border, and the entire rest of the bill has to pay for...
So really, it was actually an aid to Ukraine bill with a little bit of border security tacked on.
tim pool
I don't even think that...
It was amnesty.
It wasn't even border security.
unidentified
No.
natalie winters
No.
Unless a border bill is opposed by the Southern Poverty Law Center, ACLU, and every Democrat, it's not a border security bill, right?
seamus coughlin
It's so funny.
natalie winters
But it's also crazy, too, right, when you see Martha Raddatz sit there and say, oh, well, a handful of transnational criminals and gangs are taking over, you know.
libby emmons
It's just a handful, Natalie.
It's just a couple of apartment complexes.
natalie winters
Just a couple.
libby emmons
In San Antonio and Aurora.
natalie winters
That, like, the ruling class in D.C. would be okay with a handful of Ukrainian territories being ceded to the Russians.
They aren't even okay with...
tim pool
I'm okay with it.
natalie winters
I am, right?
They aren't even okay with a handful of compromises coming from Ukraine sitting down getting a peace treaty.
So I think you see the glaring...
libby emmons
To fight Ukraine?
natalie winters
Well, and two, I think...
Wow.
libby emmons
10,000.
natalie winters
The most concerning part, too.
libby emmons
They've got a deal.
Putin and Kim Jong-un have a deal.
tim pool
That's dangerous.
Those 10,000 North Korean fighters are going to get to experience life outside of their utopia.
libby emmons
That's dangerous.
But you know what?
Maybe they will take a cue from Russia.
Because Russia, after they sent all of their fighters into Europe, once they brought them home, they sent them to Siberia or executed them.
So maybe that is part of North Korea's plan.
But North Korea also blew up like land crossings between North Korea and South Korea.
They're really moving in a different direction right now.
natalie winters
You mentioned Russia.
There is a PolitiFact fact check that they put out that they were tracing a lot of so-called hurricane disinformation to foreign agents such as Russia, believe it or not.
And they were actually calling.
I think it was MSNBC on the Sunday shows last week.
They had Nina Jankiewicz on of Disinformation Governance Board fame to say that they should bring back the Disinformation Governance Board because of this.
I think that they're laying, they're using, like, they will use what happened with the hurricanes, right?
This massive tidal wave, no pun intended, of disinformation that has, you know, cost Americans their lives, when in reality it's a continued prioritization of Ukraine and every other country except the United States.
But they will use it to lay the predicate for more censorship going in to the 2024 election.
You already see it with House Democrats sending letters to all the tech platforms in light of what happened with the hurricane response, saying that you guys need to censor misinformation and conspiracy theories.
You guys need to partner with fact checkers and be very proactive in how you're going to approach that.
So they're definitely weaponizing this narrative, in my opinion.
tim pool
How about we have a law that says we can give aid, right?
If Congress approves aid or whatever, and then it also states that at the time of a disaster, all aid for any foreign entity is diverted to the U.S. to alleviate said disaster.
And those disasters will be based on disaster declarations and states of emergency.
And you know what that means.
Well, we've been in a state of emergency for what, like a hundred or something, like forever?
Yeah, no more money ever going to any other country until we end those states of emergency and those executive authorities.
seamus coughlin
I mean, that's fair enough if we are in a state of emergency.
tim pool
Why are we giving our money away?
It's like your house is on fire.
Like, emergency, quick!
Hey, do you want to order pizza?
natalie winters
I wish the military-industrial complex would, like, weaponize the southern border and view that as much as a cash cow as they would the borders of other countries, but a girl can dream.
tim pool
Is there something in Mexico?
Can we discover oil in Mexico somewhere or something?
And then the U.S. is going to be like, send in the troops!
We have Alaska.
How come we don't occupy Alaska?
seamus coughlin
Well, because Tim, I actually don't know if you know this, but when you pull oil out of the ground in the United States, it's bad for the environment.
But when it's done in another country and then sent here, it's good for the environment.
Oh, I didn't know that.
unidentified
Carbon offsets.
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
I didn't know that.
Thank you, Seamus.
seamus coughlin
You're welcome.
You know, you guys should really get educated on this.
tim pool
The audience is much smarter now.
seamus coughlin
I'm so glad I can educate everybody on that.
But what's hilarious, of course, is it's the exact opposite.
J.D. Vance made a really good point, too, during the debate.
I thought he had one of the best answers I heard on climate change, which is the United States has much cleaner energy than every other major country on the planet.
So if you care about green energy, you should want the American economy to be producing the most energy and to have the most industry.
unidentified
Agreed.
tim pool
Let's jump to the story from the Postmillennial.
Trump visits Bronx Barbershop in Pitch to New Yorkers.
The workers had Make Barbers Great Again shirts.
So Trump is going to the Bronx.
He's trying to win over more men in the urban environments as well.
It's actually pretty surprising to see Trump going to New York.
But I gotta tell you, I was in Philly recently, and there were Trump flags in Philly proper.
Big ones.
libby emmons
In Center City?
tim pool
In Center City.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
I was surprised.
libby emmons
That is surprising.
tim pool
Because in an urban center, to see Republican flags is not normal.
libby emmons
I used to live there, and in Philly, you protest the DNC, and you protest the RNC, and you protest everything that comes out of the way.
unidentified
Trump flags.
tim pool
There were Harris Waltz little ones, but they were just like yard signs we'd see propped up.
We saw Trump flags.
And we went all over.
We drove north, south, central, and we saw a bunch of Trump flags everywhere.
Now, while Donald Trump is trying to earn favor with black men as well, because Kamala is doing poorly, the good news is Don Lemon is scolding them.
unidentified
Take a look at this clip from CNN. You're talking to a lot of voters, and I will just say that you texted me right around the Democratic convention, and you said...
I am talking to people, and Kamala Harris has a problem with black men.
Yeah, and I told the campaign I did not hear from them.
I mean, who am I for them to get back to me?
But there's a problem.
And look, I went from battleground state to battleground state.
When they invited me to the convention, I didn't just want to fly there.
I said, I'm going to go and talk to voters in battleground states.
And I did.
It was not curated.
I went up to people just doing man on the street.
I said, who are you going to vote for?
Black men.
And time after time after time, they said, I'm voting for Donald Trump.
Why?
Now, there are reasons why.
They said because most of the time they said, well, you know, for economic reasons, right?
Or because he gave me a stimulus check.
And I had to correct them over and over and tell them that that stimulus check came from the Democratic Congress and from Nancy Pelosi.
And that Donald Trump actually held the check up so that his name could be put on the check.
So they think they got the check directly from him.
Meanwhile, Joe Biden has given one or two stimulus checks as well, but they seem not to know and understand that.
You can vote for whoever you want to vote for, but the reasons that you're going to vote for them, I think that they should be accurate and factual and you should know why you're supporting. - I think Don Lemon just showed how he has no idea what they're actually thinking.
tim pool
And he's making an excuse because if Joe Biden gave them two checks and Trump gave them one check, if it was about stimulus checks, they'd be saying, I'm voting for Kamala.
I'm hoping that we get stimulus checks again.
But they're not.
Clearly, that is not the reason.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, I mean, it's really condescending.
There's this Marxist element, too, of having to analyze everything through the lens of economics and assuming that people are only making their decisions based on where they think they're going to get money or have gotten money.
libby emmons
Based on how much the government is going to give them.
seamus coughlin
And there's truth in that.
The government absolutely does buy people's votes in this way.
But you have to remember that even though the left tries to build these coalitions of people who they see as being oppressed and then just assume that they're all going to get along with each other.
The truth is, the black community is more socially conservative than the Democratic Party would like for them to be.
That's a really vague, oversimplified way of putting it.
They call them socially conservative.
But on issues like gay marriage and transgenderism, they're certainly not to the left.
So you can imagine why, if being aware of Kamala's position on those issues, they wouldn't like her.
It doesn't just have to be a financial thing.
But they don't want to admit.
Like, they want you to think That any socially conservative position is adjacent to white supremacy.
So they can't admit when black people are out of line with the establishment.
libby emmons
There might also be something to what we were talking about before.
Maybe they don't want to vote for a lady for president.
seamus coughlin
That's also very likely.
Very likely.
tim pool
And they don't want to say it?
libby emmons
I mean, why would you want to say that?
seamus coughlin
I don't know.
tim pool
I kind of feel like if you're a young man, you're going to say it.
seamus coughlin
You're going to say it.
And also, I think because white people have been beaten down and basically forced to consume this narrative of our own guilt, white people are less likely to say politically incorrect things.
I mean, black men don't have white guilt, so they are more likely to just say something politically incorrect when they believe it.
libby emmons
Right.
elad eliahu
And a lot of you guys might be asking yourselves, why is Trump spending any time in the Bronx?
Why is he spending any time in Long Island?
libby emmons
Well, he's making a play for New York.
He said it.
elad eliahu
Well, thank you, Libby, for answering the question I was about to answer myself.
So the reason Trump is...
He's going to New York.
It's not because he thinks he could win New York, but it's because the path for Republican domination over the House of Congress is through New York.
So all of the districts surrounding New York City where people will come to his rallies from is the way Trump will win the House.
So on Long Island, I would call it upstate, but right up north, White Plains, right above the city, all of these areas were right from the picking in the past midterm where Republicans had some seats and Republicans want to remain in those seats moving forward.
And that's the way Trump's going to be able to be effective if elected in office because he will need Congress.
tim pool
But that sounds like Donald Trump has resigned to already having won the general and now he's going to pick up seats.
elad eliahu
Well, I think it's something that he doesn't want to forget about because I believe it was his first term where he was dealing with a slight majority and then at that midterm he lost his majority.
I think he understands the importance of having Congress behind him as well because he can't be...
libby emmons
People also forget that New York basically delivered the red wave.
It was five seats in New York in 2022 that Lee Zeldin flipped.
tim pool
What I'm saying is that if Trump is willing to take time right now in the middle of the presidential cycle to go to New York, which he cannot win because he wants to help win congressional seats, then he feels like he's already won the general.
He would be in Ohio, Pennsylvania.
He'd be in Wisconsin.
And he did go to Wisconsin, I think, today, right?
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
But if he's spending time in New York for what you're saying, he's basically saying, you know what?
I'm doing so well.
I've got time.
Let's try and win some congressional seats.
Like, he views himself as being way ahead.
elad eliahu
Yeah, I think he's thinking of a grand campaign.
He's coming at it as this third presidential campaign.
He understands the lay of the land.
He understands the importance of the House.
And that's why I think he's spending so much time, or well, really any time in New York.
libby emmons
He also got a great reception in Crotona a while back.
Didn't he do a big rally in Crotona?
In the Bronx?
Yep, he's been there a few times.
He did well there.
And then AOC and Jamal Bowman went out there, and they bombed.
unidentified
Yeah.
natalie winters
Well, and all the Democrats have said, too, I mean...
You can see it in their actions with the whole January 6th stuff, but they'll just work to impeach him if they have a majority in Congress or at least in the House and Senate.
libby emmons
That's how they would literally spend the entire four years trying to do that.
natalie winters
Yeah, it would almost be so bad.
Maybe the typical swing that you see in the midterms where it goes for the party counter to the president, I think it'd be an interesting comparison to see if the blowback from not getting anything done and just focusing on politically motivated witch hunts against Trump Let's just be frank.
seamus coughlin
He hasn't been re-elected and there have already been assassination attempts.
unidentified
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
So I don't think impeachment is the only trick up their sleeves.
libby emmons
And I mean, there could be more.
tim pool
The prediction is that there's going to be more.
I mean, Iran.
Iran.
And then you heard Biden gave a warning to Iran saying...
natalie winters
And our own government.
tim pool
Right, but...
seamus coughlin
Yeah, fair enough.
tim pool
So whether you think it's Iran or otherwise, the point is, the narrative has been placed.
Iran is trying to take the life of Donald Trump.
Biden has warned publicly Iran it is an act of war if you harm Donald Trump.
And wouldn't the war machine love a casus belli for a war with Iran?
elad eliahu
It's so ripe for conspiracy theory.
unidentified
It's...
natalie winters
Well, and it's not even conspiracy theory, and I'm a little rusty on the facts, but I believe it was a soft merchant, right?
The Iranian would-be Trump assassin that they arrested like two weeks.
tim pool
Pakistani.
natalie winters
Oh, sorry.
But to my point, most Iranian would-be assassins that we've seen, whether it was against like John Bolton or other types like that, they have explicit ties to whether it's the IRGC or just Iran in its entirety.
But this Pakistani guy was only tangentially linked to Iran through the fact that I think he had like a few family members who lived there.
He was not part of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps and was the FBI that facilitated his entry into the United States via the southern border.
But it was really interesting because in the affidavit that they had when they finally arrested him, all of the evidence that they used pointing to the rationale to arrest him, it had to do with acts that he committed after entering the United States.
There was nothing to do with any of his activities before, which is historically sort of unprecedented when it comes to these foreign assassins.
And this is the craziest part.
The bounty that they say this rando dude that they used to push this whole Iran plot that they say that Iran placed on Trump's life was $5,000.
$5,000 when in comparison for John Bolton.
I think it was hundreds of thousands of dollars over.
So very weird, shady story going on with that guy.
tim pool
I hope Trump's got good security.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, I really do too.
tim pool
Because he's using Secret Service, and that report came out recently where they said...
natalie winters
You need more money, of course.
tim pool
If they do not...
There was an independent report that said if the Secret Service does not have a fundamental change right now, the Secret Service cannot protect its designees.
seamus coughlin
Did you hear about the motion that was brought forward in West Virginia?
tim pool
Which one was that?
seamus coughlin
I believe they said they would not certify the election if Donald Trump or J.D. Vance were assassinated.
tim pool
Really?
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
I don't know that they agreed to it, but it was proposed.
natalie winters
When Kamala Harris always has the refrain, I guess she changed it a little bit slightly, when she said, oh, there's nothing I would change about a Biden presidency.
I always think it's pretty dark.
You wouldn't have given more Secret Service agents or rehashed what happened on July 13th?
tim pool
You wouldn't have prepped better for the hurricanes?
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
You wouldn't go back to the border and try and say, oh, there's nothing?
libby emmons
Maybe done better on that Afghanistan withdrawal.
tim pool
They did everything they wanted to do.
Everything they did was intentional.
seamus coughlin
Exactly.
That's what I'm saying.
The purpose of a system is what it does.
I'm not saying that's how we should always analyze things, but it's very useful in this context.
tim pool
Let's jump to this story from the Wall Street Journal.
Kamala Harris' agenda for black men will be open to all.
Ooh, I can't wait to get my piece of these black men's money.
So what was the point of Kamala Harris announcing that she was going to, like, legalize drugs and protect the crypto assets of black men if in the end it turns out to have been an illegal proposal that will now be open to anyone and everyone?
libby emmons
Yeah, the point was to try and get black men to vote for her.
Exactly.
Literally, that was all it could be.
And the administration knows that these proposals are illegal.
She should know these proposals are illegal because her administration, the Department of Agriculture, was sued by white farmers claiming that the Department of Agriculture's program to prioritize black farmers for loans was actually in complete violation of everything, which it was.
Mm-hmm.
seamus coughlin
The purpose of farming is to feed all of us, not to make us feel all cheap and sentimental and good about ourselves because we have equity in farming.
That's pointless.
libby emmons
Yeah.
I agree with you.
seamus coughlin
But we also have to consider this is a campaign promise.
So there's two things.
Firstly, I don't think she cares about following through with any of her campaign promises.
I also don't think she cares about the law.
So it's anyone's guess whether this is just a promise that was made that was never intended to be fulfilled or whether they're going to try to break the law anyway.
Biden is still tried, right?
His student loan forgiveness proposal was struck down.
They said that he couldn't do that, but he still wanted to move forward with it.
So they don't care.
They're above the law.
tim pool
Let me read this.
It's really funny.
It says, Vice President Kamala Harris' opportunity agenda for black men aims to shore up support from a pillar of the Democratic base with a key section promising $1 million loans that are fully forgivable to black entrepreneurs and others to start a business.
And others?
libby emmons
And others is doing a lot of lifting there.
tim pool
Well, it literally says that.
It says, it turns out that the words and others are doing a ton of work.
The campaign says the program listed under the black men agenda will be open to all Americans on a race neutral basis.
It's really funny.
And others.
That is so good.
Guys, I'm hereby announcing that I'm ordering pizza for Seamus and others.
elad eliahu
You're telling me I don't even have to pretend to be black to get all these benefits?
seamus coughlin
No, you don't.
elad eliahu
I don't even have to fake it in an affirmative action way?
tim pool
Seamus, if you help me clean this place up, I will order pizza for you.
And others.
seamus coughlin
But you see, but that's a nice thing.
It has to be- Others is me.
Yeah, exactly.
libby emmons
Yeah, that's a totally different thing.
And it's $1,020,000 loans, forgivable.
That is a huge amount of money.
That's a huge sum of money.
And we're watching people's homes get washed away in North Carolina.
But like, this is the program.
She also—part of the marijuana legalization program that she's offering is very similar to the one that was offered in New York.
And what happened in New York is New York decriminalized weed and said that people who had passed marijuana convictions would be eligible for these licenses to open weed shops.
But by the time they came up with their plan to give these licenses out, there were already all these weed shops all over the city.
And so the city has been trying to like claw back the decriminalization to stop bodegas from selling loose joints.
elad eliahu
The domination from Democrats on their black constituency, that is how they went over so much of the black community.
It's a dual handed sword in a way because it's hard to maintain it.
You know, you won't be able to go much higher than that.
And chances are that the other party is only going to be able to kind of make the inroads with the black community.
That's what the Trump campaign has been trying to do, because, I mean, if you're at 80 percent, there isn't much more of the community to win over.
So it's right for the picking.
tim pool
I mean, Obama met with a bunch of young black men and said that I feel like you guys just don't want to vote for a woman.
What are the white dudes for Harris commercial?
It's time to get over that.
seamus coughlin
Get over it!
I'm strong enough to let a woman tell me what to do.
tim pool
They're really worried about the woman thing.
seamus coughlin
They're really worried about it.
tim pool
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
Man, that ad was great, wasn't it?
tim pool
There's like three of them where they're basically like, please vote for a woman.
I just don't see it.
But it's also crazy that so many young black men have shifted away From the Democratic Party that Obama has to be like, guys, is it because you won't vote for a woman?
Like, you got to do it!
seamus coughlin
Well, here's another thing that people should really consider.
tim pool
They knew this before they brought her in.
seamus coughlin
I mean, if anyone here was considering voting for this particular woman, here's something to consider.
When Obama was elected, even though I didn't like his policies, right?
And Matt Walsh has talked about this, but pretty much any conservative who was voting in this election or that election at that time will tell you, I wasn't glad he won, but if there was one silver lining that could have come from him being president, it was that race relations would improve, America wouldn't be seen as a racist nation anymore, and then race relations got way worse.
Way worse.
So what does that tell us?
Okay, if you elect a woman president, you are not going to heal some gender divide in this country.
It's just going to be played upon more.
It's just going to be played upon more and the division is going to get way worse culturally.
libby emmons
That's a really good point, yeah, because after Obama was elected, you can track it in the New York Times and in all of the news media.
The incidents of the word race, racism, race relations, you know, all of that stuff really skyrocketed.
tim pool
Yeah, but I don't think it's related to Obama.
libby emmons
Well, it may not be, but like...
tim pool
You can see in LexisNexis all terms related to...
libby emmons
What do you think it's related to?
Why do you think racism...
tim pool
Social media algorithms.
libby emmons
was totally fine and everybody was pretty much fine to madness.
It went from like, we have equality in the country to insanity.
You think entirely it's Facebook?
tim pool
100%.
And I'll give the rundown again.
I do it a couple times a year.
So if you look at LexisNexis, you can see the instances of certain words appearance in newspapers around the world, not just in the United States.
So Obama, It has nothing to do with Obama because it happened in every single country.
What likely happened is that when Facebook implemented its algorithmic feed, when it initially started it was reverse chronological, but they realized that once you got to around 300 friends and or liked pages, things you were following, you couldn't keep up with the changes and this was resulting in a lower retention time on the website.
So Facebook said, okay, let's use an algorithm to show people what they're more likely to want to see so they stay on the platform longer.
Hence, if you post, one of the tricks on Facebook is to post, I just got married and had a kid.
No, I didn't.
I just had to post that.
Hey, we're having a pizza party tonight.
Come hang out.
Because that way, Facebook will put it to the top of everyone's feeds.
So what happens is you have advertisers.
And they're trying to figure out what content they can produce that's going to get a lot of traction on the algorithm.
And so what they found was, one, rage shares more than any other emotion.
There's people like cute animals and things like that and saving animals, they do really well.
But anger generates the most amount of shares.
It's almost entirely among women as well.
I worked for a company.
When I worked for Fusion, they had a marketing guy who laid this all out.
Moms are the key demographic for sharing content and generating views on Facebook.
So what happens is, in the late 2000s, they implement the algorithmic feed, which is basically words that are more likely to get clicked on and are more likely to be shown.
You ended up with BuzzFeed, Huffington Post, Mike.com, etc.
doing this massive shift when they realized, hey, we wrote 10 articles today.
One article was, you know, John Kerry says this.
The next article was police brutality, black man beaten.
Guess which one got a million views?
libby emmons
Right.
tim pool
Then they go, guys, we just made 10 grand off that article.
People want this.
libby emmons
Write more of it.
tim pool
But they didn't want it.
Facebook was just showing it to more people because of the algorithm.
Then something stupendous happened.
In the early 2010s, they discovered that if you write about X... Everyone wants to read that.
The inverse did happen.
The rise of alt-right and white nationalist content began to emerge as well because there was a counter backlash to this algorithmic push.
The issue?
Our society thinks those things are bad.
Advertisers don't want to put money on them.
But if you go to an advertiser and say, do you care if your ad appears on content that opposes racism?
They'll say no.
Do you care if your ad appears on content that promotes white supremacy?
They'll say, absolutely not.
We don't want that.
This created a pressure in one direction where all the alt-right channels, and not even necessarily white nationalists, but counter-anti-woke and channels that were like, what's wrong with being white?
Started getting knocked way down, getting suspended and banned, and then all of the ultra-far-left crazy cultural Marxist stuff started getting promoted.
That system is now cracking and buckling as Disney lost a billion dollars on a bunch of their movies.
Kevin Feige reportedly fired a bunch of their activists.
They were like, hey, wait a minute.
We've gone way too far in this direction because there was no check on it.
This is why in the Obama years, we saw a massive spike of all these terms and all this terminology.
It exists well outside of Obama.
The LexisNexis data is crazy when you look at it.
Every word related to social justice skyrockets.
Now, it could be that you have ideologues working at Twitter and Facebook.
And so they said, these are the words we want shared.
I don't think it's the case.
I think it was more emergent.
When somebody would see a video about police brutality...
They'd react to it.
They'd get angry.
It would slowly generate more traffic, and it would cause an increase in people writing articles about these things.
It's what advertisers would fund, so it created a natural push in this direction, and that's why you ended up with...
elad eliahu
Are you just blaming the social media networks and the platforms, or are you blaming the users or maybe bad users on the platforms at all, too?
tim pool
It's the platforms.
elad eliahu
You don't blame any of the people who are doing bad stuff?
Okay, well...
tim pool
What do you mean doing bad stuff?
elad eliahu
Because there are people who have to make those articles and make those posts.
tim pool
There's absolutely nothing wrong with writing an article saying, I am upset about police brutality.
The problem is that Facebook created a mechanism by which it was the only thing you could produce that would generate revenue.
Now, Facebook makes almost no revenue for these companies.
Video is everything.
I mean, where are the big blogs these days, right?
Most of them have gone defunct.
But in the 2010s, in the late 2000s and 2010s, you were printing money.
There was a website in the top 400 websites in the world that only wrote about police brutality.
Because of Facebook.
Millions of fans, millions of followers.
That is an algorithmic push.
The average person doesn't care about that stuff.
Like, they care, right?
You see, if you saw a video where it's like a cop's beating a guy, you're gonna be like, hey man, that's not cool.
But for every single article you read ever, that was Facebook driving it into people's minds.
The best part about this is, and I mean that facetiously, a 10-year-old kid who signs up for Facebook, you're not supposed to, you're supposed to be 13, but he does, and the only thing he's seeing at the time is an endless feed of police brutality, Ten years later, Facebook is still dominated by this.
YouTube is dominated by this.
This kid is 17 years old going, this whole country is racist and they murder black people every single day.
And then you see these men in the street interviews where they say, how many innocent unarmed black people do you think are murdered every year?
And they go, 50,000?
Because the only thing they would ever see on their social media was the far-left ideology being jammed down their throats.
natalie winters
I'm curious your thoughts.
Obviously, I think 2020 was the most poignant example of how the government can tip the scales when it comes to the censorship on these platforms or promoting certain narratives.
I agree with what you're saying, but I do think it maybe treats these social media platforms as sort of like independent entities away from any government overreach.
So when do you think...
That the kind of censorship apparatus that we've seen now developed to help shape the landscape.
tim pool
So what happens is, following this massive push, you end up with the backlash.
The media called it the whitelash.
We started seeing a lot of channels that were white pride.
They weren't necessarily alt-right or white nationalist, but they were people being like, you can't attack me for being white.
It's okay to be white.
Things like that.
That escalated until you got overt white nationalists active on platforms, and then these platforms were like, we have to ban all these people.
There was an adpocalypse that were moving them.
I think it's actually through these media machines, the politicians in the deep state are literally drinking the refuse of these platforms.
Their minds become warped jelly.
They then say, this is the world I want to live in, and they seek to implement that world.
So, for example, Jack Dorsey said that Twitter was the free speech wing of the free speech party.
Through these pressures that existed naturally in the market, Jack Dorsey was pumping feces right down his throat.
And I mean that figuratively, obviously.
He's taking the human refuse ideas of a broken algorithm and warping his mind.
The only thing he sees when he's on X is everyone posting about nothing but social justice.
He then can't see outside of his bubble.
Case in point, when I went on and did that debate on Joe Rogan and I said, your misgendering policy is biased.
He goes, no, it's not.
How is it biased?
And I said, because conservatives think misgendering is calling a female male pronouns and a liberal thinks misgendering is calling someone the pronouns they don't wish to be called.
And it's almost like he had never heard that argument in his life.
So what happens is they start consuming a reality based on the algorithms that they've built, warping their frame of mind.
You end up with young people who are entering into the intelligence agencies, entering into politics, and they're saying this is the way the world should be.
They then go to the social media platforms and say, we don't want far-right white nationalist fascists like Donald Trump winning.
We can't allow that to happen because they are swimming in the refuse of the social media creation.
natalie winters
I also think, too, it's quite interesting if you analyze government grants coming from the United States government to combat what they call misinformation, disinformation, conspiracy theories.
Those terms were only really started to be heavily used circa like 2016.
If you look, it's like 97% of them are post 2016.
And I think you nailed it when you said it was tethered to Trump winning.
I think it's a weird thing.
That the UK and the United States have a weird sort of axis of evil when it comes to funding these censorship programs, that it's all inextricably linked to Brexit, too.
I think they try to spin that right as kind of a result of disinformation.
And it gets to, I'll never forget, there was a grant from the National Science Foundation just about a year ago, where they weren't content with just debunking.
Misinformation, but they wanted to pre-bunk misinformation, particularly tied to the rise of populism.
And it was sort of saying the quiet part out loud.
But I think that they realized that the ad hominem assaults weren't working.
So they had to pivot to the misinformation.
tim pool
When Bud Light happened, I predicted we will find out that a millennial woman who recently got a promotion launched this campaign, which is destroying the brand.
And I was correct.
That's exactly what happened.
happened yeah that is what happened because it is these these millennials who have very little literacy in media go on a facebook and the only things they see is being slammed with social justice because websites like mike.com were chasing money and this this is there's evidence of this mike.com started off as a ron paul libertarian website why the ron paul love revolution was viral online and it generated traffic and made money when the algorithm started to change
mike.com turned into a social justice website that pursued weird leftist garbage That was it.
They were chasing the money.
So this millennial woman lives in this reality all day, every day.
She gets an entry-level position at Bud Light.
Ten years later, she's promoted to a VP of marketing.
And then she says, we don't care about white men anymore.
And they're like, whatever you say, it's your campaign and your job.
And then the company implodes.
seamus coughlin
I think there's another element here too, which is that there was a perfect storm.
Because what the left needs is to be able to point to groups of people who they claim are oppressed, and then on that basis say that there's some reason why we need to completely restructure this society.
That in your day-to-day life seems to be working really well, but actually is it because of how this group of people is being treated.
And so right around like 2012, 2013, it became clear that the left had a cultural victory when it came to homosexual behavior.
And you end up having gay marriage forced onto every state throughout the entire country by the Supreme Court.
And so at that time, they didn't have as much of a leg to stand on and say gay people are oppressed.
And they weren't at a point where they felt comfortable saying, if you don't bake the cake, you bigot, then you're an oppressor.
And so it happened to be very convenient that they could shift into this narrative of remember, remember how black people were oppressed?
It's still happening.
It's still just as bad as it was in the 60s.
We still have sundown towns.
All of these things that we know aren't true.
natalie winters
And then you get a perverse world where Obama, who's married to someone that like half this country thinks is a man, is lecturing us on masculinity.
libby emmons
That's only because of Joan Rivers, right?
Wasn't it Joan Rivers?
Yeah.
tim pool
Joan Rivers said that Michelle was a trans man.
natalie winters
She's been campaigning with transgender drag queen activists.
libby emmons
Cardi B and drag queens and...
seamus coughlin
Well, but it's interesting because also back in 2008 to say that about Michelle Obama would be considered a horrendous insult.
But today they actually can't explain why that's insulting.
libby emmons
Right.
seamus coughlin
They really can't.
They can't say there's anything wrong with that.
If Michelle Obama thinks there's something wrong with being called a trans woman or that a trans woman is a less legitimate woman, then Michelle Obama is a bigot.
tim pool
Remember that guy who did the video where he's asking the woman, he was like, how was transitioning for you?
And she's like, excuse me?
And he's like, was it difficult for you?
And she's like, I'm a woman.
He's like, right, yeah.
Of course.
seamus coughlin
That's so mean to do to a woman.
tim pool
I'm an ally.
She's like, you think I'm a man?
He's like, no, no, no, you're a woman.
You're a woman.
I'm an ally.
And she's like, I'm a woman.
He's like, exactly.
And then she was just like, what are you trying to say?
I'm a man.
He's like, well, is there another word you use for this?
And so, of course, his point was...
seamus coughlin
They don't actually believe it.
They're offended by it.
It's obviously not a nice thing to say, but it's true.
People have done this online, where they will casually refer to liberal women who are pro-transgender as well-passing trans women, and invariably the women get offended.
They're always offended.
There's nothing wrong with it.
Why does that offend you?
libby emmons
The real loser in the entire trans debate are masculine-looking and unattractive women.
seamus coughlin
It's also, yeah, it's very sad.
libby emmons
And it's really a shame.
Like, there was that whole thing.
There was that Sidney Wilson, Sidney Watson.
tim pool
Wilson.
libby emmons
Wilson.
The other day.
tim pool
The basketball player.
libby emmons
The basketball player.
And people were saying, like, she's trans.
And I was like, no, she's just a tall, big lady.
seamus coughlin
And it's so funny because...
libby emmons
She was not trans.
tim pool
You thought it was a trans woman?
libby emmons
She played women's basketball for Georgetown in like 2010, 2011.
She was just a big lady.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
libby emmons
And I was thinking like, it's a bad time to be a big lady because, you know, if you're a big lady with like a strong jawline, everyone's just going to think you're a man.
Like, that's not fair.
It used to be that you could be like a handsome woman.
Yeah.
You can't be a handsome woman anymore.
Now it's like because of trans, you know, because of trans, if you're not like, if you aren't obviously feminine looking, you're screwed and everyone thinks you're a fella.
tim pool
If you said beautiful man, I feel like you'd imagine like Gaston.
libby emmons
No, you say beautiful man, you think like Fabio or whatever.
tim pool
Yeah, but he's still like a big, muscular dude.
libby emmons
He's a big, beefy guy.
He's just like pretty.
tim pool
But if you think handsome woman, you think like a chiseled jaw woman who's like large.
libby emmons
Right.
tim pool
You know, like a beautiful man could still be a manly guy, but a handsome man is a manly woman.
libby emmons
It's a manly woman.
tim pool
It only flows in one direction.
libby emmons
It's not good to be a manly woman now if you want anyone to think that you're actually female.
seamus coughlin
No, and it's true.
I mean, part of what's really fascinating about it, too, is leftists will blame us for that.
We'll blame conservatives for that.
But the reality is, 15, 20 years ago, masculine-looking women were not suspected of being men.
libby emmons
You still thought they were women.
seamus coughlin
Exactly.
libby emmons
You might not think that they were gorgeous, but at least you'd think it's a woman.
unidentified
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
You would assume someone dressed as a woman was a woman.
Now you can't make that assumption anymore.
natalie winters
My other hot take, I do also think that the normalization and increase in plastic surgery among young women, which in some ways is analogous to what a lot of men get who want to become trans, it's like superimposing the same artificial features.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
natalie winters
And I think you get then this weird kind of amorphous, genderless...
elad eliahu
This bimbo look.
natalie winters
It's so interesting.
libby emmons
And they all look the same.
unidentified
Everyone's got the same lips and stuff.
natalie winters
Yeah, it's like unhuman.
seamus coughlin
It is weird.
The point about them all looking the same.
Part of what's so fascinating is the reason we have these plastic surgeries is because we live in this Western liberal society where we've maximalized individualism and allow people to make their own choices.
And the hilarious irony is people use those individual freedoms to become as much like everyone else as possible.
To literally change the way their face looks.
To look more like what society says the average face should ideally look like.
libby emmons
Which is really just a shame.
And it's bad for everybody else who's just like, I don't want to have knives on my face.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, well, and part of what's hilarious about it, though, is the more stringent and conservative and traditional your social roles are, the more uniqueness you get among people.
Because those are societies that say, no, you can't slice your face up in the name of self-expression, right?
We could do reconstructive surgery if something horrible happened to you.
libby emmons
And that's a pretty traditional society, isn't it?
I don't really know.
seamus coughlin
What about South Korea?
libby emmons
In South Korea, there's like a huge proportion of plastic surgery.
There was actually a man who sued his wife because their children were ugly.
And it turned out that he didn't know she'd had all that plastic surgery.
seamus coughlin
Any society that allows for plastic surgery, so long as it's voluntary, has clearly bought into the idea of individualism to the point where they think an individual has the right to change the way that their face looks for non-medically necessary reasons.
libby emmons
Well, sure.
And we are there.
It's always interesting to me.
People will say to me, oh, if you're opposed to minors getting trans surgery, then you must be opposed to them getting boob jobs and nose jobs, too.
And it's like, yeah, for sure.
seamus coughlin
To be clear, making someone infertile for the rest of their lives is worse than giving them a plastic nose.
libby emmons
But also, leave your nose alone.
I remember when I was like...
And my aunt said, she goes, so when are you going to get your nose done?
And I was like, what?
What do you mean?
What is the matter?
No one's breaking my nose and reshaping it.
tim pool
And she went, well, you're ugly, honey.
libby emmons
No, she didn't say that.
But she was like, what?
Doesn't everybody want to do that?
And I was like, no.
seamus coughlin
That's such a horrible thing to say.
libby emmons
No.
elad eliahu
I think a lot of this stuff is downstream from social media.
libby emmons
Well, you know what's funny is I wasn't upset because she thought that I didn't have a good face.
I was just horrified at the notion that someone would break my nose and reshape it and that I would pay for someone to do that for me.
natalie winters
On such young girls now, I mean, you got inundated.
I'm 23 and it's like all you have here is you need to get Botox.
You need to get Botox.
libby emmons
No, do nothing.
natalie winters
I would never.
I think plastic surgery is for trannies.
Uh...
But it's wild.
It's the normal...
I mean, I guess it's profits, but it's just...
libby emmons
The Botox thing is weird how everyone wants to shoot poison in their face.
Yeah.
Or take out their cheek fat.
elad eliahu
It's understandable, though.
I understand why people do it.
They're trying to look better and younger.
natalie winters
Are you doxing yourself as a Botox recipient?
elad eliahu
I mean, I think this stuff is gross.
I also think it's a gross look on people, but I also think there's something to do with social media, with women comparing themselves to each other at such a young age.
But that was always true.
And then also different...
Was it always true?
It wasn't true 50 years ago.
It definitely wasn't true as much 50 years ago.
And then also the different filters that people could apply to themselves.
libby emmons
I mean, all that stuff is worse, but middle school has always been middle school.
elad eliahu
Yeah, but it wasn't...
When you went home from middle school 50 years ago, you were home.
Now when you go home from middle school, you're looking at pictures of your classmates on TikTok and Instagram and comparing yourselves to them.
I feel like a lot of the stuff we're talking about tonight is downstream.
tim pool
Social media is frying the brains of young people.
seamus coughlin
Not only young people, of all people in media.
I really don't think kids should be able to use these platforms.
It's the pain that parents allow them to.
Technically, their TOS says they shouldn't.
tim pool
Have you noticed all the commercials for TikTok and Instagram saying they now have parental controls?
libby emmons
I haven't seen those.
tim pool
You can specifically remove words that they won't be able to search for or see if it appears in any way related to the post.
seamus coughlin
And this is what I will say to any parent who is considering allowing their child to use TikTok because of parental controls.
Anyone who produces content will tell you there are certain words you can use as workarounds that communicate the same message.
Either by putting an asterisk somewhere or spelling a word a little bit differently, and you're just not going to be able to block out all the variations.
The reality is, if you're giving your kid a phone that has TikTok on it, they're gonna find the stuff that you've put parental controls on it to prevent them from seeing.
It's just gonna happen.
Do not think that that stuff is gonna protect your kid.
tim pool
There are young women who are getting plastic surgery to look like filters.
libby emmons
That's really too bad.
tim pool
Yep.
natalie winters
There's a disconnect when you look in the mirror and what you're used to seeing and then you're like, wait, I look bad.
tim pool
I need to get X. Well, it's because they see other women who look a certain way and they think, I should look like that, but it's a filter.
libby emmons
What they should realize, though, is that disconnect never goes away.
I mean, I remember my grandma when she was like 86 and she was telling me, honey, I feel the same way as I did when I was 18 on the inside.
And then I look in the mirror and there's this old lady.
It's very confusing.
elad eliahu
For many people, they see people more through phones than they do in real life.
natalie winters
It's got to be something.
libby emmons
And then I look at her neck and I'm like, she didn't do that yet.
elad eliahu
Yikes.
You commented on her looks?
That's, I thought, unkosher.
libby emmons
We already commented on her looks.
tim pool
The other component of it is that young people will see posts from their friends and their fake and their highlight reels and they think my life should be that way and they get depressed because of it.
libby emmons
Yeah, that's a shame.
natalie winters
Well, when life is so meaningless, I think it trumps up the importance of stuff like that.
tim pool
No purpose.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, this is one of the massive issues with materialism.
If the only thing that actually matters is what's right in front of you and there's no spiritual reality, if you don't have all of the coolest things on the planet, you're not the most attractive person, you don't have the most money, well, then what's the point of being alive?
And then here's the reality, is if you have materialist mindset, even once you get to that point, it doesn't start to feel like things suddenly matter because you got all the shiny new toys.
You just end up remaining depressed.
You see this with famous people all the time.
They get addicted to drugs or they end their own lives because you can't satisfy yourself with things of this world.
libby emmons
That's why Jim Carrey went nuts.
And he was like, we're backing off now.
But it was interesting.
Speaking of meaning, my son was telling me that like most of the kids in his class are atheists.
elad eliahu
How old are they?
tim pool
Well, that's the fault of Christians.
libby emmons
Fourteen.
seamus coughlin
I mean, they're 14.
elad eliahu
Yeah, I don't think you could have developed religious views.
libby emmons
But he said that they don't tend to go to church.
tim pool
But this is not good.
libby emmons
It's Christian's fault.
That's a parenting thing.
Like, take your, you know...
tim pool
It's the fault of Christians.
elad eliahu
That's part of a bigger trend, too, over the past 50 years of church attendance falling off of a cliff.
libby emmons
My parents forced me to go to church.
natalie winters
Although with young men, isn't it up?
I remember reading...
tim pool
The question is, why aren't parents instilling their values in their children?
seamus coughlin
Because the parents don't actually believe it.
A lot of these parents don't believe it.
tim pool
So the grandparents, then?
At what point did people stop instilling their values in their kids?
seamus coughlin
It's happened slowly over time as we became more wealthy and decadent as a society.
tim pool
There you go.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
libby emmons
That's part of it, too.
But also, one thing that happened is that all of the boomers, they were just so intent on casting off anything that their parents taught them, casting off church, not going to church, like all of that stuff, because they wanted to stay young forever.
And they kept the mindset of like, I'm a young person bucking the system until even now, like they even still the boomers have that mindset.
seamus coughlin
Well, it's so hilarious, too, because I cannot think of a more ill-suited group to question the choices of their parents than baby boomers.
unidentified
Exactly.
seamus coughlin
I think that, too.
The greatest generation had a lot of flaws.
People worshipped them, and they shouldn't.
But the truth is, the greatest generation went from living through the Great Depression to fighting in and winning the Second World War, and then their children looked at them and said, What do you know, Mom and Dad?
I'm gonna go listen to like rock and roll and sleep with strangers and get high!
libby emmons
That's what life's really about, you guys.
That's what life's really for.
seamus coughlin
Your parents went from the Great Depression to the most prosperous economy in the history of the world at that point over the course of 50 years.
libby emmons
And you can't stand it.
seamus coughlin
So maybe those were people who give you good life advice.
They're like, no!
They're impressing me!
tim pool
Right.
How many members of the Greatest Generation served overseas?
seamus coughlin
I don't know the number.
tim pool
How many Americans served overseas?
seamus coughlin
Wasn't it something like a third of Americans were involved in the war effort or something?
tim pool
But serving, if you want to say they fought the war, the people who came back as veterans and had a message to instill in their children, I think the issue is the majority of the greatest generation actually didn't.
seamus coughlin
Including the British National Park?
It's true, but we had an entire war economy.
tim pool
So even right after the suffering of the Great Depression, you had to ration the My point is, the people who fought in the war, the veterans, probably had a strong message for their children, and their children heard it, but that's about one-third of the boomers.
That means, like, 66% told their kids nothing.
seamus coughlin
Well, and also, what was the media telling their kids?
I think that the greatest generation was not skeptical.
tim pool
I have the magazines.
Why don't you go read them?
seamus coughlin
Huh?
tim pool
I have the magazines in the other room.
I'm not kidding.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, we've actually pulled up several of the World War II Life magazines.
On the counter, in the green room, we have the Life magazine with the bomber of Japan smoking a cigarette, and it explains how the U.S. nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
And then I have the surrounding magazines where you can read what people thought during World War II, and I gotta tell you, it had nothing to do with the Holocaust, Germany, or Jews.
libby emmons
That Enola Gay, it's in Chantilly, Virginia.
It's in storage there.
You can see it in the National Air and Space Museum.
It's very cool.
seamus coughlin
Many years ago, I found an old suitcase that used to belong to my late grandfather.
And I went in it, and there was a Reader's Digest.
And it was from the 40s.
I believe it was Reader's Digest.
And there was a chapter there.
It said Catholics fight birth control or Catholics fight legal birth control.
And I said, I didn't know that was an issue back then.
My dad was like, they're talking about condoms.
It was true.
And so what I find hilarious is you'll have these lefty social justice advocates who say, you know, you guys are Nazis and fascists.
It's like, dude, the Catholic guys fighting in World War II were against condom legalization in many cases.
They would be so far right by your standards.
tim pool
They couldn't be even more right.
seamus coughlin
But we have to remember this, too.
The Greatest Generation had a lot of its own problems.
World War II soldiers, some of them, you know, when they were in France, were going to brothels over in Europe.
I mean, it's not like they were perfect people.
elad eliahu
So that's the worst thing you have to say about them?
unidentified
No.
elad eliahu
Not too bad if that's during wartime.
unidentified
Hey.
tim pool
Is that it?
seamus coughlin
Well, no, I'm just saying that the greatest generation raised the boomers, even though I have a tremendous amount of respect and admiration for the men who fought in World War II, including my grandfather.
They were humans.
They made mistakes.
They didn't raise perfect children.
Nobody does.
And so we have to remember that, too.
libby emmons
There was a big percentage, though, of the boomers that ended up fighting overseas as well.
It's just that they were fighting in Vietnam.
And you have to remember about Vietnam.
That was the first war that was basically televised.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
libby emmons
Because you had reporters on the battlefield, and those images were coming home.
And there were a lot of people who were supporting the Vietnam War, too.
I mean, we look back at it, and we say everybody hated it, and it was terrible.
But there was a lot of support among Americans for that war as well.
seamus coughlin
In my dad's high school, they played the draft numbers through the intercom every morning.
Teachers or students who were getting drafted.
libby emmons
Did your dad's number come up?
seamus coughlin
No, he didn't end up having to...
tim pool
We're going to go to Super Chat, so smash the like button, subscribe, share the show with everyone you know.
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And become a member at TimCast.com, because we're going to have a members-only call-in show coming up at 10 p.m.
That's right.
You as members can call in and talk to us, and we'll answer your questions.
But for now, let's grab the Super Chat.
We've got Kyle who says, Seamus, have you seen the Tim Waltz Mr.
Garrison meme yet?
It's astonishing how great cartoonists are at predicting future outcomes.
seamus coughlin
No, I saw that.
Thank you for complimenting my profession, by the way.
tim pool
It's rare, isn't it?
seamus coughlin
It is rare that cartoonists get complimented or get anything right.
But Tim Walls does have that vibe.
I saw that and I thought it was hilarious.
I did see that.
Good meme.
tim pool
Alright, let's grab some more Super Chats.
unidentified
What is this?
tim pool
AJ Borowski, you'll know they've accepted defeat when they allow the wars to truly start.
They will absolutely leave a mess for Trump once they know they are hopeless.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
libby emmons
Well, they're sending money all over the place, and it's usually the State Department or some random person making the announcement.
Hey, we're taking your money.
tim pool
Zarasopher says, Tim, you are wrong about the airlines kicking off a forced shirt from earlier.
The airlines take federal funds.
You take federal funds, you don't get to ban political messages.
It wasn't a ban on political messages.
It was a ban on obscene messages.
So, a couple months ago, a guy got kicked off because it said Hawk to us, but in that thing with Donald Trump flipping a bird.
They said, you gotta flip that inside out.
He says, okay.
Flips it inside out, sits down, flips it right side out, and they said, okay, well, WTF, mate, you gotta get off the plane now.
And he's all like, oh, how dare you, blah, blah, blah.
There was another video a couple years ago where I got an F Biden shirt on, and they said, you can't wear that on here.
And he's like, I've got free speech, how dare you?
And I'm like, dude, you don't own these planes.
These are private companies.
And so the argument being made by Zerosifer is that they receive federal funds.
I don't agree with that.
It wasn't a political message that they were saying no to.
It was obscene messages.
And I have no problem with a plane, an airline, being like, we don't want people fighting in the sky.
libby emmons
That makes sense.
tim pool
Yeah.
libby emmons
Because that would be bad for security.
tim pool
Nor the plane could crash.
libby emmons
That's exactly.
tim pool
No fighting in the sky.
Everybody's got to chill.
All right.
Lauren says, what happened to your morning show?
I loved it.
Well, it's still there, but it's broken up into segments again.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
tim pool
That's it.
Tried the live stream out for a couple months, started the RNC, and ultimately I think it doesn't work, and YouTube punishes you for doing it, so I switched back to doing segments.
So now there are just segments instead of a two-hour live show.
Veteran Biker says, invite a veteran with a YouTube channel on.
Yes.
Haven't we?
I think yesterday we had Joel Berry.
He was a Marine.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, that's right.
Great show.
tim pool
There you go.
The real Doug Lane says, holy smokes, Lucifer is literally running for president in Utah on the official ballot.
Not a joke.
Is that true?
libby emmons
Weird.
tim pool
Someone want to look that up?
elad eliahu
In what state was it?
tim pool
Utah.
unidentified
Utah.
tim pool
Mr.
Nice Bobby says, Tim, you keep talking about Star Trek and praising it, but when are you going to watch the true king of 90s sci-fi, Babylon 5?
If you can only watch one episode, watch season four, episode eight, The Illusion of Truth.
Oh, interesting.
libby emmons
Lucifer Everylove.
tim pool
Really?
elad eliahu
His name is Justin Case.
tim pool
I don't know.
elad eliahu
No, no, no.
It's Lucifer Just In Case Everylove.
libby emmons
Yeah, Lucifer Just In Case Everylove.
But his friends just call him Lucy.
He's a real candidate.
He's only running in Utah, even though he primarily lives in New Hampshire and spends half his time in Utah.
The ballot's not fake.
It's a real ballot.
Everybody has to meet the criteria to be a candidate.
This individual did that.
tim pool
Peter Goock says, Tim, you were great on Pierce Morgan.
Seemed like your mic got shut down every time someone else talked, like a connection issue.
The leftists on that show were literally the definition of fake news.
Indeed, they were.
Indeed.
Yeah.
Yeah, there was something on their end where whenever someone would talk, my mic would get turned off or whatever.
That was their issue.
elad eliahu
Super convenient.
You're the only one getting muted.
tim pool
Yep.
Let's see.
Ego says, early voting in North Carolina started today.
Go vote!
Also, if you needed a real estate agent in North Carolina, call Carolina Sapphire Realty.
Tim and crew, we love y'all.
Hey, appreciate it.
Ham sandwiches.
Sheamus, my acquired a lot of spoons this visit.
His power level the last two days has been epic.
seamus coughlin
Thank you so much.
I'm glad.
Listen, I don't appreciate the accusation, but I'm glad that you think that my power level has been high.
And if you want to see how that's manifesting, go over to Freedom Tunes and watch our newest videos.
tim pool
This guy couldn't even get a million subs last night.
seamus coughlin
Oh, why do you have to treat me like this?
Why do I go on this show when I'm spoken to this way?
Hold on, let's see what our numbers are at right now.
tim pool
What if it went down?
seamus coughlin
Let's get, guys, let's get Freedom Tunes up to a million subscribers tonight to make Tim cry.
If you want to see Tim cry on air, get us two million.
We're at 977,000 right now.
We can do that.
tim pool
We can get Tim cry.
That's 5,000.
seamus coughlin
We gained 5,000.
tim pool
That's a lot.
seamus coughlin
So do I get a single tier for that?
unidentified
No.
seamus coughlin
Okay, well.
tim pool
No, but I'll order pizza.
seamus coughlin
For others.
libby emmons
For you and others.
tim pool
Seamus will get pizza and others.
libby emmons
Seamus will get others.
tim pool
Seamus will get others.
Your local wizard says, Seamus, don't allow Tim to slander the Irish with the spoon conspiracy.
Also, do you believe that Kane is still out there wandering the earth?
seamus coughlin
Firstly, I will not let Tim continue to slander us, and I have done everything in my power to do that.
tim pool
Well, I'm Irish too, bro.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, and yet the way you speak about your people, you're a race traitor.
But I would say, as far as Cain's still wandering the earth, that's not—I've heard that that's something that some people believe.
That's not something that I was taught as a Catholic.
I don't know that Catholics typically believe that.
I certainly wasn't taught that as a child.
tim pool
He's a bad dude, right?
seamus coughlin
Well, yeah, he killed his brother.
libby emmons
Killed his brother.
And then God came down and was like, where's your brother?
And he was like, am I my brother's keeper?
unidentified
Pfft.
tim pool
And he was like pushing the body behind a rock while he was saying it?
libby emmons
Yeah, he was just like, I haven't seen that fella.
seamus coughlin
Well, yeah, and so he was marked so that people would know not to kill him, and some people have interpreted that.
Well, some people have interpreted that as him being unable to die, but I don't think the text, I don't believe the text says that.
libby emmons
I don't think that's supported.
seamus coughlin
But some believe that.
And also the flood happened after, so he would have to have gotten on the ark or been sustained in some other way.
libby emmons
He didn't get on that ark.
seamus coughlin
No one would have been on that ark.
tim pool
He was lying on his back floating for 40 days and 40 nights.
libby emmons
You know, people lived for a long time in the Old Testament, but I'm pretty sure Kane kicked it at some point.
tim pool
I don't know, man.
You ever see that show Lucifer?
seamus coughlin
I've never seen Lucifer.
tim pool
He was a detective?
libby emmons
Yep.
I watch all the dumb fantasy shows.
For sure.
tim pool
Dude, it's so funny.
It's like, he's the devil and a detective solving crimes.
libby emmons
And he's in love with that and he's in love with the other.
He's in love with one of the detectives.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
You've got to be edgy and you have to insult Christianity somehow and try to subvert your moral.
tim pool
I mean, an immortal Kane TV show would probably work.
You know, it starts with...
libby emmons
The thing though, they would never show, though, what they wouldn't show is that Cain is a horrible brute who is not capable of redemption.
tim pool
Nah, they'd make him sympathetic.
seamus coughlin
Exactly.
tim pool
They would show Abel doing something to him.
libby emmons
That's why it's like not...
seamus coughlin
Well, no, because it's a story of envy, right?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
seamus coughlin
Right?
God appreciated Abel's sacrifice because he really gave.
So in some sense, Cain was like one of the first communists.
tim pool
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
He went and killed somebody for getting more to God.
tim pool
Hollywood would make him a hero.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, exactly.
Hollywood would make him a hero.
tim pool
It would make God the bad guy.
seamus coughlin
Yes.
tim pool
It would have made it out to be like God was favoring the privilege of Abel.
seamus coughlin
Exactly, exactly.
Cain would literally say, actually, I can't commit fratricide because fratricide is killing your brother plus institutional power.
And I lacked the institutional power because I was suffering from sacrifice scarcity.
I just didn't have enough to give to this sacrifice.
So it's not my fault.
tim pool
They would literally make it the show where he's like, Father, why won't you praise me?
I have done everything.
And then he's like, get away.
And he's like, ah.
And then, you know, a fight breaks out.
And then he's like, what have I done?
And then God's like, you are banished.
You will never die.
And then they make him a detective.
seamus coughlin
You know what?
tim pool
And then he's like living in New York and he's solving crimes.
seamus coughlin
That is literally what they would do.
That is literally what they would do.
tim pool
You know, they made a show where Lucifer is a detective solving crimes.
seamus coughlin
It's insane.
libby emmons
And his brother is there, who's another fallen angel, and there's some succubus.
tim pool
And then some guy stole his wings.
seamus coughlin
In this show, does he have demonic powers?
tim pool
Yes.
libby emmons
Oh, yeah.
seamus coughlin
So what is he trying to figure out?
tim pool
He can compel people.
seamus coughlin
What is he trying to figure out?
tim pool
Can't he compel people to act upon their dark desires or something like that?
libby emmons
Yeah, he's not a good guy, but he's trying to be a good guy.
They make him sympathetic.
seamus coughlin
Theologically confused.
libby emmons
Theologically, it does not work.
tim pool
He's British.
seamus coughlin
Well, now that makes sense.
That actually adds up, to be honest.
tim pool
That's canon.
seamus coughlin
That's the only thing about that I think makes some sense.
tim pool
All right.
Adrienne Curry says, women won't vote for women.
Who is the leader of a home?
Women?
LOL. Hey, hey, a woman said it.
She's allowed.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
tim pool
Those are the rules, right?
seamus coughlin
A woman's not supposed to be.
tim pool
The best thing about being multiracial and multiethnic is I can make fun of French, British, Irish, German, Koreans, Japanese.
seamus coughlin
Firstly, everyone can make fun of the French.
libby emmons
It's not hard, yeah.
seamus coughlin
No one gets in trouble for that one.
That's like one group we've all just decided.
But it's also because they're white.
tim pool
Is it?
But...
Yeah, but everyone kind of agrees with it, you know what I mean?
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
Like, you get to a point where it's like, hey, don't say that about them.
tim pool
Well, because it's like, you might get some dude and he's like, you know, I'm really tired of the white self-hating jokes.
Like, no, no, no, he was French.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, that's bad.
Oh, okay, I get it.
What is it?
Cheese-eating surrender monkeys?
What was that?
seamus coughlin
I think groundskeeper really says that.
tim pool
Cheese-eating surrender monkeys.
seamus coughlin
Classic Simpsons is so good.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, but it would be hacky because that already happened in real life.
seamus coughlin
I can't just copy something.
tim pool
I think for our music video working on, it's going to be aliens turn everyone into zombies and then chickens fight to save the earth from the aliens.
seamus coughlin
By the way, I was being deadpan.
I appreciate your super chat and the joke.
tim pool
Alright, let's go.
This one is from Joe Disney.
He says, Biden says, by the way, the camera is looking at me.
He's looking straight in the lens.
Then Obama says something before looking at the camera himself.
I think that's right.
I'm pretty sure he taps him and says, by the way.
And then maybe he did say, he's like, the camera's pointing at us or looking at me.
And then Obama says something like, okay.
Because they know.
And now it's a huge story.
What did they say?
What if it was something like, Joe was like, Kamala makes great Cajun casserole, and Obama goes, nope, nope.
Gives me the Hershey squirts.
unidentified
It's horrible.
seamus coughlin
It's horrible.
unidentified
Joe Biden was like, I heard she washes her collared greens in a bathtub, man.
tim pool
She said that, right?
seamus coughlin
Yeah, and Barack's like, nope!
tim pool
But what was the story like?
She said she washed her collard greens in the bathtub as a slang term?
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
What do you mean as a slang term?
This is my understanding of this.
libby emmons
I thought she just had too many greens.
And she didn't have anywhere to wash them.
seamus coughlin
So she claimed that she washed them in a bathtub.
Now this is, I am not an expert here.
But my understanding is that there was some slang that she had heard used in the black community that she misappropriated and misunderstood.
Like, they would say they washed their collard greens in a tub.
They would call it a tub, but it wasn't a literal bathtub.
It was not.
But she heard that when I used to wash my collard greens in a bathtub.
And people were like, what?
What are you talking about?
That's weird.
libby emmons
Yeah, I just thought, I heard that and I thought, I guess she must have had like a lot of greens that she had to wash.
seamus coughlin
She just had so many greens.
libby emmons
She just had like a huge, like a monster amount of greens.
tim pool
That's a lot.
That's too many.
seamus coughlin
Too many.
unidentified
Too many.
tim pool
Alright, we got this next one from Trey Wubble says, Seamus, I didn't notice the ring before I burned you so hard yesterday.
I hoped your wife didn't see that part, but alas, AI is immediately aware of all the things posted on the internet.
My apologies.
seamus coughlin
Oh yeah, he said I'd never talk to him.
I mean, look, it was a valid fact check.
tim pool
Let's see.
What is this one?
This one's from Mr.
Commutunes.
Sheamus is not smart and he will never reach 1 million subscribers.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
seamus coughlin
Prove him wrong, everybody.
Prove him wrong.
Go over to YouTube.com slash FreedomTunes.
That's T-O-O-N-S and subscribe.
We're at 977,000 subscribers.
We're getting so close I can taste it.
tim pool
Seamus, I made that up.
There's no Commutunes.
seamus coughlin
I know, but I was leaning into it because I want to...
Maybe we will become commie tunes.
If we don't get to a million subs, I'll be like, why do other people have a million subscribers?
And I don't.
Clearly, the economy is broken.
tim pool
Why don't you make commie tunes?
seamus coughlin
We've talked about this.
This is a bit that you and I have talked about.
tim pool
Commie tunes?
seamus coughlin
Yeah, do you remember that?
unidentified
I don't know.
seamus coughlin
I don't want to spoil it.
I don't want to spoil it.
tim pool
I was saying, like, make a whole new channel.
And then just do really awful, like...
seamus coughlin
Just long text.
Just really long text that scrolls over six figures.
tim pool
Oh, you should make that.
And it's just three minutes of super long text.
seamus coughlin
Honestly, I might.
tim pool
All right.
Michael Balmer says, Polymarket has Trump at 62%.
I really hope Joe Rogan accepts a podcast with Kamala.
Polymarket will have Trump at 99.9% the next day.
libby emmons
Do you think Rogan's going to do it?
I don't know.
The podcast with both of them?
tim pool
He never said anything.
libby emmons
He'd have to do it with both.
seamus coughlin
I agree, but the thing is, Rogan, so Brett Baer didn't even push back that much as we discussed earlier.
I don't know that Rogan would push back even as much as Brett Baer did.
libby emmons
Oh, I don't know that he would.
seamus coughlin
You think so?
libby emmons
But you'd want to see both of them.
tim pool
Bro, like, an interview with Joe is not like a Brett Baer who's trying to be on the level.
The left attacks him, but Joe is the kind of guy who's going to go, what are you saying?
Like, I asked you a question.
seamus coughlin
Mm-hmm.
tim pool
There's a few guests I can reference who I won't bring up, but Joe was just like, what are you talking about?
That's ridiculous.
Pull it up.
seamus coughlin
Can you imagine what that would do to her campaign?
Just that one clip.
What?
What are you talking about?
Him Googling and her being wrong?
tim pool
Although there was a really funny meme that I saw where someone wrote out, let me see if I can find it because reading it's absolutely hilarious.
Let me see if I can find this one.
Seamus, read a super chat or something.
seamus coughlin
You want me to find a super chat for you?
Alright, let me go over it.
tim pool
Just read it, because I'm trying to find this really funny thing.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, okay.
Well, let me just pull this up.
Okay, we got a super chat here.
This is the best time for my internet to fail.
It's just taking two seconds to pull up.
Beautiful, Lance DeBoer said, that's it, I'm subbing to the Irishman.
tim pool
Was it because of the- Is he just reading things that promote yourself?
seamus coughlin
No, that was the first thing that came up.
Isn't that interesting, Tim?
Turns out, the people here like me.
They're not as rude to me as you are.
libby emmons
Oh, I'm going to subscribe.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, please.
You weren't subscribed?
libby emmons
I wasn't.
My son is subscribed and he shows me your videos, but I was not subscribed.
unidentified
That's very sweet.
libby emmons
Yeah.
He thinks you're funny.
seamus coughlin
I'm glad that somebody does.
I'm glad that somebody does.
I'm just going to have to drive you guys over to Freedom Tunes.
I only have two Super Chats on my screen right now.
So that's where we're at.
Let me see some other things.
Someone said, Seamus, now is the time.
Get him back.
Get him back in what way?
What are you guys asking me?
To do here.
tim pool
Who?
libby emmons
What?
seamus coughlin
I assume get you back for the way that you've been treating me.
tim pool
Oh, I can't find this meme.
That's too bad.
It was really good.
Someone wrote a script of what they thought a Kamala Harris-Rogan interview would sound like.
libby emmons
Oh, really?
tim pool
Yeah, and it was really funny.
It was really funny.
I don't think that's what it would sound like.
But, you know, that's too bad.
unidentified
Too bad.
tim pool
Sorry, everybody.
No jokes for you.
I tried.
I tried my best.
seamus coughlin
I tried really hard.
Nice.
Yes, our subs are up.
Thank you, guys.
Keep doing it.
Keep doing it.
We've gained like over 100.
About 200 now.
Come on, guys.
tim pool
That's a very big number, famous.
seamus coughlin
By the way, I'm not just asking you to come sub for no reason.
We put out a new video today.
People seem to be liking it.
The audience really seems to be liking it.
tim pool
Yeah, but, you know, aren't you kind of mean to Kamala?
seamus coughlin
Yeah, I guess if there's one weakness, there's one weak point of that video, it's that I do make fun of Kamala Harris, which I think would upset you guys.
libby emmons
Is this the Kamala Robotron one?
seamus coughlin
Yes, yes, yes.
Don't spoil it, Libby!
Yes, we did a video on Kamala's new campaign strategy, her best hope of winning.
tim pool
All right!
Official Lucid Traveler says, you are all under deliberate attack from your own government, which is occupied by foreign governments, and your intelligence agencies prepare yourselves.
Find Christ.
Water, food, ammo, and a Bible.
Good luck.
unidentified
Thanks.
tim pool
Heavens.
North Libertarian says, truth is treason in the empire of lies.
Dr.
Ron Paul.
seamus coughlin
Amen.
unidentified
Oof.
tim pool
ParticleGo says, Tim, I voted today in North Carolina and took the Democrat candidate list so I know who not to vote for.
I'm wondering how many picked one up and was marked as a supporter when we are not.
It was packed all day.
Interesting.
Oh yeah, Kamala Harris skipped the L. Smith there tonight.
libby emmons
She did send a pre-recorded message.
tim pool
Yeah, but this is like...
libby emmons
And she was booed.
tim pool
Was she really?
seamus coughlin
Where was this?
libby emmons
The Al Smith dinner.
unidentified
Whoa, she got booed.
libby emmons
Her pre-recorded message got booed.
If I'm to believe the chatter in the chats.
seamus coughlin
Whoa, that's crazy.
Listen, I completely and totally understand why she's as disliked as she is, but it's really remarkable.
I mean, I remember in 2016 when the popular brave thing to say was that you didn't like Donald Trump.
But I don't remember people being this tired of him, or this annoyed with him.
There's a lot of people who don't like him, don't get me wrong, but Kamala is someone the media is constantly telling us we should love and is great for this country, and it just hasn't taken.
She literally has the entire mainstream media behind her pushing for her candidacy, and people still really don't like her.
And I've never seen anything like it.
I've really never seen anything like it.
With pretty much every other Democratic candidate, Except for Hillary Clinton, I will say.
Except for Hillary Clinton.
The media's been able to kind of manufacture some kind of consensus around people liking them.
But not with these two, and I think it's because America's sexist and they're women.
libby emmons
Well, also, though, Kamala Harris only had 3% of the vote when she was running as a Democratic presidential candidate.
tim pool
Three?
seamus coughlin
She did horrible in the primary.
unidentified
That's a big number.
libby emmons
In 2019, she had 3%.
unidentified
Wow.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, she really did not do well in the primaries.
unidentified
She did not do well.
tim pool
That's the first question I would have for Kamala.
I would say, Kamala, did you know you had 3%?
Can you say 3%?
seamus coughlin
Can you show me how many that is?
What percentage did you get?
She's like, this many?
I got this many.
tim pool
The first question I would actually ask Kamala Harris is, if you didn't have breakfast yesterday, how would you have felt?
libby emmons
I think that would have been a good question.
unidentified
She would say, I was raised in a middle class.
She'd say, well, let's talk about Donald Trump's breakfast this morning.
tim pool
No, she would literally be like, oh, breakfast.
You know, a lot of Americans, they want to talk about breakfast.
And you know what I'm going to say, because breakfast is an important meal.
And a lot of people in this country are very worried about it.
seamus coughlin
But ma'am, we're asking what you had for breakfast.
tim pool
And if you let me finish, I'm talking right now.
And, you know, there's a lot of people who are wondering the same question about what they're having for breakfast.
So I think, you know, I'm glad you brought it up.
And thank you for the question.
unidentified
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
That's literally true.
She will just not answer it.
tim pool
That's what she did, and then Bret Baier was like, please, can I have a number?
seamus coughlin
My favorite part was when she was like, I'm trying to get to the point.
No, you're not.
tim pool
I literally would have said, if I was Bret Baier, ask the question, and then I would just let her talk, and then once she stopped talking, I would say...
Can you answer the question?
libby emmons
How many illegal immigrants?
tim pool
No, I was just like, can you answer the question?
Like I did, I'd be like, oh, I'm sorry, the question was how many illegal immigrants?
And then when she doesn't give an answer, I'll be like, I'm confused.
Wait, can you?
libby emmons
Do you want to answer it again?
tim pool
Do you want to?
No, you didn't give me a number.
And then just let that be the whole interview.
And then they're going to be like, Brett should have asked this question.
I'm like, well, Kamala wasn't answering.
What am I supposed to do?
seamus coughlin
Yeah, honestly, no, that would have been hilarious if he tried that twice and then his follow-up was, how would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning?
tim pool
Yesterday morning.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, yes.
Is it this morning, yesterday morning?
tim pool
It's, how would you have felt if you did not eat breakfast yesterday?
Yeah.
And then they go, but...
seamus coughlin
Well, the correct answer is, but I did.
Yeah, the correct answer.
You're supposed to say, but I did eat breakfast.
That's the right answer.
So we'll see if she would answer that.
tim pool
I don't agree with hungry.
Some people don't eat breakfast.
Like, there was a period where I didn't eat breakfast at all, and I'd be like, but I don't eat breakfast at all.
I would feel the exact same.
unidentified
I would feel unburdened by what was.
libby emmons
So you don't think that, like, the first meal of the day is just breakfast?
I mean, you're breaking the fast if you eat at 8 a.m.
or you eat at 1 p.m.
seamus coughlin
So you think dinner can be breakfast if you wait till 6 o'clock?
tim pool
See, now you're getting...
If someone...
Today, every day, I have a two-egg goat cheese omelet.
That's what I eat literally every single day.
libby emmons
Do you put spinach in it?
Little onions?
unidentified
Really?
tim pool
I put olive oil in the eggs, whip it up, splash a little olive oil in the pan, two eggs, goat cheese, put some avocado on top.
libby emmons
I like avocado on my omelets, too.
tim pool
And I have a protein shake.
And if I don't have that, I mostly would just feel fine until around noon or so, and then I'd be like, oh, I gotta eat.
libby emmons
Yeah, I have my my whole day gets all whatever.
So annoying.
tim pool
Here's a question for you.
If you did not release a cartoon about Kamala Harris as a robot, how would you have felt?
unidentified
But I did release a cartoon about Kamala's robot today.
I did do that.
tim pool
All right.
Ghost Crusader says, Tim, can you ask Libby if she ever remembers seeing Democratic presidential campaign ads playing on New York TV in the past?
I don't recall seeing any for presidential elections, but this time I see four or five Kamala ads every morning.
libby emmons
I don't remember that but I never had TV. Oh, no TV, huh?
No.
I do remember when I was a kid, and my mom had cable, and there were still only five channels, but it was the only way to get reception.
And the clicker, like, didn't even have numbers on it.
You just had to go, like, back and forth, and it had volume.
But I don't remember anything other than her making me watch what was then called the McNill-Lair News Hour, which she always made me watch.
But no, I didn't have TV. Yeah.
tim pool
Lighthouse Film says Gallup has Republicans up seven points in the popular vote.
This is unprecedented.
It's the single most accurate predictor by party registration.
Yeah, the Gallup tracking the biggest issue among voters and...
They ask two questions.
What is the biggest issue and which party do you think has a better handle on it?
It has accurately predicted the presidency since 1952.
This time around, it is the economy and immigration.
And those polled said the Republican Party has a better handle on it.
So the Gallup isn't making a formal prediction.
They're just showing the polls.
But if you track the poll all the way back, you're like, oh, wow, look at that.
libby emmons
That is interesting that he's seeing.
Are you seeing that a lot?
Are you seeing Democratic political ads on TV in New York?
elad eliahu
I also don't have cable TV. It's super expensive to have cable TV. I do get a lot of mailers, though, in the mail.
libby emmons
I used to have people knocking on my door, and I'd be like, I'm a Republican, and they'd be shocked and horrified.
tim pool
So, you know, here's one.
Caboose says, the $425 million isn't money.
It's old shell missiles and other equipment bought in the 80s, 90s that is valued at $425 million.
And we can't send those to the Helene victims?
You know, maybe they want a missile.
seamus coughlin
I mean, those are still resources.
libby emmons
I thought we had a whole plan going for a while to do like shipping container, emergency housing.
tim pool
I gotta be honest.
I would rather give the shells and the missiles to the Helene victims than Ukraine.
seamus coughlin
Well, also, there's two points to make there.
libby emmons
Well, they could just sell them on eBay to North Korea and get some housing.
seamus coughlin
Well, this is the argument that leftists will make, and even, like, establishment liberal types, they'll say, well, you know, we're actually sending equipment over there.
It's not all just raw money.
Okay, firstly, sending equipment over there isn't free.
That's our equipment that we are giving away.
But also, it's not like it magically appears over there.
We have to spend the money relocating all of that, too.
elad eliahu
Wouldn't that make it a stimulus then?
If it's just coming, it's military equipment from our military industrial complex, right?
This is going to jobs in different people's districts.
So when we send them that equipment, we're going to have to rearm ourselves.
seamus coughlin
It would be a stimulus as well, by that logic, to go pay people to help those in North Carolina.
elad eliahu
Sure, I guess the things aren't completely related, I guess is the point though, right?
Like, these aren't, they're not mutually exclusive at all.
They're not related at all.
seamus coughlin
They don't have to be mutually exclusive.
elad eliahu
It's just a good partisan thing to be like, when the government does anything, why don't you do this too?
seamus coughlin
But it makes sense to say, why is the government so invested in giving money and resources and equipment away to foreign countries and not in helping its own people?
elad eliahu
Well, it does help its own people.
Most of our budget goes to helping spending on our own people.
Most doesn't go to helping foreign countries.
tim pool
Okay, last question before we...
seamus coughlin
Hold on a second.
I want to respond to that.
You're correct that a lot of our budget does, but when people see a response to a disaster botched, when virtually everyone can agree that one of the basic duties of a federal government, if we're going to have one, is to do something like that, but we see the government readily send money to foreign countries, even though that's something that's pretty controversial among the population, I think it's reasonable to say our government is not actually...
It's not nearly as controversial as the people.
tim pool
We're going to wrap it up.
We're going to wrap it up.
I have one last question because we do have to go.
Seamus, oh no.
What if the government said, Seamus, we're going to give $425 million to Ukraine, but every Ukrainian will subscribe to Freedom Tunes.
seamus coughlin
Every single Ukrainian.
tim pool
Every single one.
How many is like 30 million?
No, not anymore.
Way less than that.
seamus coughlin
So I don't think it's as controversial as people think that we should fund Ukraine.
I don't think it's as controversial as people think.
I think we can set some of that money.
tim pool
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natalie winters
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tim pool
Is there going to be a party?
natalie winters
I don't know.
We're in the midst of planning it, but I'm sure it'll be a fiery opening rant.
libby emmons
Oh, that will be exciting, right?
natalie winters
I know.
libby emmons
I'm Libby Emmons.
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You can sign up for my newsletter, which is not as exciting as Freedom Tunes, but I do write it up every day, and it's thepostmillennial.com slash Libby, or you can find me on Twitter at Libby Emmons.
seamus coughlin
Well, you heard it right from her.
Freedom Tunes is more exciting than her newsletter.
Go over to Freedom Tunes and subscribe.
No, thank you for saying that.
It's very sweet of you.
Subscribe to Libby's newsletter.
Also, please go subscribe to Freedom Tunes so we can get to a million.
Watch our newest video where we're making fun of Kamala Harris.
I think you guys are going to love it.
elad eliahu
I'm Elad Eliyahu.
You can find me by that on all platforms.
And let's do the after show.
tim pool
We'll see you all over at TimCast.com in about one minute.
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