All Episodes
Sept. 24, 2024 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
02:01:30
Trump Assassin Places $150k Bounty On Trump, DOJ Filing Charges w/Morgonn McMichael | Timcast IRL
Participants
Main voices
e
elad eliahu
21:30
h
hannah claire brimelow
25:59
m
morgonn mcmichael
12:31
t
tim pool
57:33
Appearances
Clips
b
bill maher
00:32
k
kamala harris
00:08
| Copy link to current segment

Speaker Time Text
tim pool
The Trump would-be assassin put a bounty on Donald Trump for $150K from a letter he
He had planned this thing months in advance, left a box with some guy who says he didn't look in it until just now, and now the FBI has denied him bail and they're seeking attempted assassination charges.
This stuff's serious.
Bill Maher actually came out and defended Donald Trump.
It was a great opening bit.
He basically told people, stop laughing.
It's not funny.
This is happening too much.
They're trying to kill this man.
We can't function like this, not as a nation.
Of course, we will talk about that.
And then we've got a lot of news that Israel's bombing Lebanon.
So there's some big news there.
And Trump is winning in the top battleground states.
We'll get into all of that.
That's very good news.
If you're looking at the standard bias from the past polling cycles of the 2016-2020 election, Donald Trump is way up right now in the battleground states.
So we'll get into that.
And then we have this very hilarious story where this reporter Was spamming RFK Jr.
inappropriate pictures of herself?
I mean, it's actually a hilarious story, because according to one report...
R.F.K.
Jr.
blocks this corporate press reporter, so she emails him being like, you've got to unblock me, there's a story, a hit piece coming out about you.
So he unblocks her, and then she immediately sends him more like, you know, pics of herself, if you know what I mean.
And he blocks her again, like, what is she doing?
This is a wild story.
A little gossip, we'll talk about it.
Before we get started, my friends, I want to give a shout out to today's sponsor, Preserve Gold.
Head over to preservegold.com slash timpool.
They're supporting the show, we're supporting them.
Look, financial experts, they're urging Americans to prepare now.
With inflation soaring, a border crisis affecting cities and small towns, and warnings of a recession, my friends, we are living in insane and unpredictable times.
To protect your retirement accounts and 401ks, you should strongly consider physical gold and silver.
Right now, Preserve Gold has an exclusive offer for my viewers where you can get up
to $15,000 in free gold and silver with a qualified purchase, as well as a free guide.
Text TIM to 50505 to learn more or visit preservegold.com slash timpool.
Preserve Gold has hundreds of five-star reviews and millions of dollars in entrusted transactions
with happy clients.
So really do appreciate the support and the sponsorship.
Preserve Gold, head over to preservegold.com slash timpool.
Also don't forget, coming home, pre-orders out now.
You can go to GetComingHome.com.
You need to have the iTunes player installed, but you can pre-order.
This song will be coming out on Friday.
We'll have more for you then, but also don't forget to go to TimCast.com, click Join Us, become a member, support our work directly, because you're going to enjoy this members-only, uncensored, call-in show coming up at 10 p.m.
tonight.
You as members in the Discord, you get to call in and talk to us and join the show.
So if you like the work we do, you think it's important, it needs to keep going, well then we need your support.
But don't worry, we're going to bring you into the show yourselves to actually challenge us, ask us those questions.
So don't forget to smash that like button and subscribe to this channel.
Share the show right now with all your friends.
If every single person watching shared it, we'd be the biggest news show in the world, no question.
Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Morgan McMichael.
morgonn mcmichael
Hey everyone, I'm Morgan.
I'm a Turning Point USA contributor, Gen Z culture and political commentator, and thank you for having me back.
Excited.
tim pool
Right on.
We got a lot hanging out.
elad eliahu
Hey, what's up, Tim?
Thanks for having me, guys.
My name is Elad Eliyahu.
I'm a field reporter and Jewish affairs correspondent here at TimCast News.
hannah claire brimelow
I'm Hannah-Claire Brimel.
I'm not going to bring up race or religion.
I'm just kidding.
I'm Hannah-Claire Brimel.
elad eliahu
I could be British Affairs correspondent.
hannah claire brimelow
Maybe I am.
I'm co-hosting tonight.
I'm a writer for sdnr.com.
Scanner News.
Again, like Gilad said, you can find all of our work at TimCastNews on the internet.
Let's get started.
tim pool
Here's the big story from the post-millennial.
Ryan Routh denied bail.
FBI seeks charge of attempted assassination.
You know, at first, they were saying it was going to be some kind of gun-related charge, but then they discovered the letter.
The letter in which the dude says this was his plan and is offering $150,000.
For someone to go after Donald Trump.
I'm going to keep the language a little light now.
I want to stress, ain't nobody got that money, and ain't no way anybody's paying it.
So it's not a serious thing.
And they're only showing the first letter.
This came from a DOJ filing.
They're now saying that they're going after him for these charges.
The U.S.
DOJ plans to charge the man accused of hiding with a gun in former President Trump's Florida golf course with attempting to assassinate A major political candidate.
McCabe said prosecutors had documented Ruth's effort to stalk Trump during a roughly month-long period in South Florida in an apparent attempt to assassinate him.
Prosecutor Mark Despoto said the Justice Department will ask a grand jury to bring more serious attempted assassination charges against Routh, who was handcuffed and shackled at the waist during a hearing before McCabe in which prosecutors detailed some of the evidence collected against him.
Now apparently, this would-be assassin dropped a box off with some guy.
That guy didn't touch it until he learned that Ralph was in fact the suspect in this attempted assassination.
So he opened it up, found the letter, and immediately contacted the authorities.
I gotta wonder, though, because the box had a bunch of stuff in it.
I'm wondering if, you know, if this guy, what did he know, if he knew anything, could it be that Ralph was like, hey, if anything happens to me, check the box?
Or could he have been like, hey, I'm gonna leave a box at your house, don't touch it, which seems kind of odd.
Like, why would some, why would, like, a lot, if I came to your house and I was like, hey, a lot, here's a box, don't open it.
elad eliahu
Like a kill switch type thing.
tim pool
You'd be like, why are you, why are you bringing a box to my house?
elad eliahu
I'd look in the box, by the way.
Don't trust me.
Wait for my death to look into this box.
I'm going to take a peek prior to that.
hannah claire brimelow
Some people have weird friends, though, that like, you know, he's like this guy who lives in Hawaii.
He suddenly shows up.
He's like, I'm here for a month.
Hold on to this box.
And you're like, OK, I guess.
elad eliahu
I feel like you should still look in the box.
morgonn mcmichael
Like, what's in it?
hannah claire brimelow
Unless you feel like he's sketchy and you don't want to be implicated, right?
tim pool
Don't let him leave the box there!
hannah claire brimelow
Look, I'm just saying, not everyone has the backbone to stand up to their whack friends.
elad eliahu
There's something deeply unsettling now with how we're seeing copycat attempts from the original Butler attempt.
Now we're seeing this follow-up attempt and despite how honorless and immoral and dumb and wrong political assassination attempts are, we're seeing it become more normalized in our political process and it's very dangerous as we're seeing rhetoric get more heated and attempts actually be made against Politicians running for the highest office is very nerve-wracking and obviously all the politicians came out widely condemning this.
Kamala Harris.
I think Joe Biden released a statement condemning all this stuff, but it is unsettling, President Joe Biden.
Kamala Harris.
Kamala Harris.
tim pool
Oh, I'm sorry.
I didn't understand that weird pronunciation, you know.
hannah claire brimelow
You might even say you're being a little bit hateful.
elad eliahu
I wasn't even doing it on purpose there but it's unsettling and we're seeing this across the globe with what happened unfortunately in Japan and it's just unsettling the direction that our political climate's in.
hannah claire brimelow
I think turbulence is unsettling.
I think we should be asking is when is the mainstream media going to drop the word presumptive assassination attempt, right?
They're using any kind of modifier to not call this what it is.
This guy wrote a note saying this was an assassination attempt.
At what point does the mainstream media have culpability here that they are stoking all of these fears that people have about
turbulence in this country by not willing to be honest about what happened.
I mean, in this case too, they could even come out on the side of praising Secret Service for having caught the guy.
You know, I personally think it's sort of strange he was allowed to get that close to the perimeter,
but they could spin this in a way that is pro-big government just like I'm sure they want to.
Instead, they are still trying to say, like, well, we don't really know.
He could have just been hanging out.
Some people sit in bushes near the president with guns.
Like, it doesn't make any sense.
And until they are honest about what happened, especially in light of this new court filing, they are responsible for encouraging the instability.
morgonn mcmichael
Well, even last week when they were reporting on it, shots fired near Trump's golf course and like they never want to legitimize the story.
But Elad, you said something interesting talking about the Democrats who came and condemned what was going on against Trump.
There was a journalist, I can't remember who, actually went to House Democrats and said, OK, well, then will you stop saying that Trump is a threat to democracy?
And every single one of them said, no, well, he is a threat to democracy, point blank.
And I think that that's really interesting because the same people like Kamala Harris, who are all saying he's a threat to democracy and then saying, but we don't want to see political violence.
And it just contradicts itself because I think we're going to see more of this.
You know, we're less than 50 days out from the election.
We've now had two attempts and all these stories keep happening.
How many more Americans have been radicalized by the rhetoric that is pushed by the left that they're going to continue to do something until they harm President Trump?
elad eliahu
So long as it's — we obviously need to balance our First Amendment rights to free speech and calls for violence.
While I disagree that Trump is a threat to democracy, I believe in their right to say it.
And so long as it isn't a direct call for violence, I think it's relatively kosher.
tim pool
Yeah, but we're talking about decorum, right?
I don't think the idea is, you're not allowed to say that and we will use the weight of law against you.
We're saying, dude, please just chill out for now.
Right.
elad eliahu
The silver lining here was I think there was both Democrats and Republicans were agreeing to fund more secret service for Donald Trump, Joe Biden, and RFK Jr., who might need more secret service help after these journalists are after him.
Well, not anymore, but the bill was supposed to include him.
tim pool
Really?
elad eliahu
And he'll need it with these journalists chasing him and all these texts.
tim pool
Dangerous women.
hannah claire brimelow
The biggest issue for me is that the We've had two assassination attempts.
One, obviously, more dramatic, on stage, Trump was hit by the bullet.
One, thankfully, shooter didn't get off any rounds.
But that was two months apart.
I mean, I understand.
I agree with you.
They are, you know, if you don't like Donald Trump, You have the right to say he's a threat to democracy, but in reality, political violence in this country is actually coming from one side of the aisle.
And I think that the idea that or the reality that the Harris Walz campaign is just sort of ignoring it, that they're not addressing it.
They're the ones who at the DNC made a huge deal out of gun violence, and they're still not acknowledging that.
But they also play a huge role in provoking violence among people who especially are maybe not super stable and prone to irrational and dangerous actions.
To me, that shows a disregard for this thing that they are claiming is important.
I mean, I was listening to this report from NBC News Today where they're saying, you know, there was Walls calling Trump weird and that was the big rhetoric war for a minute.
The next one is going to be they're going to call him chicken and have a staffer go to one of his events dressed as a chicken.
Because I think that's how they'll goad him into going to the CNN debate that Kamala Harris wants to take part in.
I mean, so much of this is just Trump is the bad guy no matter what, and we'll ignore the fact that he is actually the most in danger out of anyone on the political campaign right now.
tim pool
One of the big talking points this morning was that the DOJ had no reason to release the letter.
All they're doing is telling everyone that there's a bounty on Trump's head which could only inflame things.
I completely disagree with that sentiment, though I do respect to a certain degree.
So I got this tweet from Matt Walsh.
He said, they didn't release the Covenant shooter manifesto because they were allegedly afraid it
would inspire more shootings. And yet within a week, they release a letter from Trump's would
be assassin where he openly encourages more shootings and offers to pay for them. Now,
I think that brings up a good point about the fake, oh, we're scared of, you know,
it could inspire people.
However, I think this benefits Trump, and I don't think there needs to be a knee-jerk reaction of like, oh, how dare the DOJ do this?
This shines a spotlight that is very difficult for the corporate press and the woke media industrial complex to deny that Trump is the target of extremists.
Whoopi Goldberg went on The View and she was like, stop saying both sides!
It's only one side, it's them!
Yeah, well, now we got a letter.
This guy planned this months in advance.
You can't keep trying to play this game where you blame the right for what the left is doing.
By putting this letter out, I think it shows, right now, This guy, first of all, everyone should know this.
This man was attempting to assassinate Trump.
It's undeniable.
He wrote a letter explaining as such, and they have proven it to the people by publishing at least the first page of it.
So now they can't try and brush that off.
Trump was, is, and still, and currently is facing a threat of assassination, and it's not going to stop with this guy.
I think just bigger picture, releasing this allows us to prove the point and say, guys, tone it down.
Stop blaming the right for what the left is actually doing.
And now the next time someone sits down with Whoopi Goldberg, they can be like, well, I mean, you say it's the other side, but who was it who published a letter months in advance with a bounty on Donald Trump?
It is not conservatives going around threatening Kamala Harris or Joe Biden.
We don't want any of it.
Nobody should be doing any of that stuff.
OK, but at least now we can we can once again be like, there it is.
Here's your narrative.
It's garbage.
hannah claire brimelow
And I think it's good for the American people.
I mean, remember after the Butler rally, everyone wanted information and the Secret Service and the FBI immediately clammed up and basically said very little and then would kind of refute themselves.
He has no social media presence.
Well, actually, he might have some.
It's not political at all.
Actually, he's been researching both campaigns.
I think Americans want a level of transparency, and I'm grateful that there is a There is a way to give it to people without it being a betrayal.
Trust a court document is a totally legitimate reason to say here is why we know this is an assassination attempt, especially since I think a lot of Americans were completely confused as to why he only faced gun related charges and not attempt attempted murder or something more serious.
elad eliahu
It's unsettling how these were two supposed lone wolves without any assistance from any intelligence agency.
It really makes you wonder what China or Iran would be able to accomplish with a seasoned spy who is making a serious attempt with a team behind them.
tim pool
But it could be something like this.
And the reason is, we do know from, I think it was Matt Gaetz, right?
That there are five assassination teams that they know about targeting Donald Trump.
They're going to go through proxies to create plausible deniability so they don't start an international incident or create a castor's belly for war.
Of course, the U.S.
could always just claim, we know that this was actually driven by this group, but if you actually had, like, a known Iranian operative caught in the act, I mean, you're going to get a declaration of war or something.
I'll tell you what's scary.
elad eliahu
Well, they do have plans.
tim pool
Right, right, right.
elad eliahu
Tentatively kill Mike Pompeo, John Bolton.
tim pool
Let me tell you this point, and I think we should be protecting all of these people.
I am not fans of those guys, but this is America, and we don't want foreign actors coming in here and disrupting our politics.
We disagree.
We shouldn't be allowed to disagree.
But the concern is...
I forgot where I was going to go.
I lost my train of thought.
elad eliahu
I'm sorry.
hannah claire brimelow
I think the Iranians had plans to... The FBI came out and they were like, we have foiled a plan to assassinate Donald Trump from the Iranians.
That guy had received a visa through the U.S.
government.
tim pool
And so the issue we've brought up on the show before...
With a bunch of anti-interventionist conservatives, is that were Donald Trump to be assassinated or Joe Biden by a foreign government, we must declare war against them.
Even if you were the staunchest of anti-war intervention, The United States, nor any nation, survives if they allow their adversaries to literally kill their duly elected or established leaders.
And that terrifies me.
I don't want intervention.
I don't want war.
I don't want the U.S.
to invade anywhere.
But you're hard-pressed to make the argument that you would allow a foreign country to murder your president, and you would not have any kind of appraisal.
elad eliahu
It would probably be the thing that would most likely spark a civil war in America had it not been a foreign actor that achieved Trump, if it was, again, in Butler.
tim pool
In fact, if, right, with Butler there was talk about Iran may have, like, they said, oh, Iran had plans to assassinate Trump, but that never, no one, like, what was that all about?
I don't know.
If Trump were to be assassinated and it turned out to be Iran, that might actually be one of the most, and this is terrifying and in no way a good thing, but it would bring the Americans together because the neocon neoliberal establishment is going to jump on board and say, we got our castus belli, and the right's going to say, a nation cannot stand if it allows this to go, you know, unreprised.
And so you're going to have some kind of unity of, yeah, we've got to topple that government
by any means necessary.
hannah claire brimelow
It would be rallying Americans together against someone who is an outside threat.
But right now we only have homegrown crazies doing this.
And I think really their influence, again, I'm going to say by progressive narratives
that advocate for violence, and that's my personal opinion, I think this is the issue.
In this case, it's not it's not exactly the enemy they want because it just divides Americans
And I think that's actually feeding into a level of fatigue.
Americans are tired of feeling unsafe.
And if you're Kamala Harris and Tim Walz ignoring this, then you're actually telling them that they are doomed to this downward spiral for the rest of their four years.
tim pool
We got this story from SCNR.
Bill Maher defends Trump as audience laughs about second assassination attempt.
This is a problem.
I actually respect this opening segment from Bill Maher.
You know, Bill certainly, I think, says a lot of dumb things that I disagree with, but he's on point from time to time.
He calls out wokeness to a certain degree.
He's got Trump derangement syndrome.
He famously said if a recession stops, Trump bring on the recession.
But when it comes to this, here's the opening segment he did on his show, and I do respect it.
He's got some jokes in there.
bill maher
So let's not bury the lead.
The big story this week, they tried to shoot Trump again.
That's not... not funny.
Okay.
I'm being serious now.
It's the second time this happened.
I said this before.
There can be no fuzz on this.
This is not funny.
Okay?
It's not okay.
It's okay to wish it happened.
unidentified
Well, this is the problem.
bill maher
LAUGHTER Well, I mean, look, this happens too frequently.
I'm sorry.
This happened on the golf course.
A guy was laying in wait, and it happens too much.
In fact, besides the shooter, there were two other shooters beside him waiting to play through.
tim pool
That was good.
I respected the joke about the shooters playing through.
I respect that he made a joke after the fact.
I think it was fantastic.
He opened up, he said, you can tell, before the people laugh, he was saying it's not fun, and then they start laughing.
It's not funny!
And then he actually basically tells them, like, no, this is happening too much.
I respect it.
And then, I will say, he's like, it's not okay to wish it happened.
Everyone laughs.
Now at that point, I do think some people are laughing at the thought That people are wishing it would happen.
It's like an absurdity, like, in the circumstance.
I don't think they're directly laughing, wishing it happened.
But, uh, it's a good sign in my opinion.
Not that Bill Maher has the big ratings.
You know, he's got a big show, he certainly does.
Um, it's not like he commands the left like MSNBC or anything, but I do appreciate that at least we're seeing some kind of pushback.
morgonn mcmichael
Yeah, I mean, we're not seeing anything, I would say, in the influencer community, social media.
Instead, on TikTok, you're seeing people wish it did happen or wish he got closer, getting millions of views.
Like, they missed again.
Like, how did it not happen?
And I think that's the difference here is, like, even though, yes, he's Hollywood and his show sucks and he hates Trump, at least he's giving an ounce of respect to President Trump and saying, like, yeah, no, it's not funny.
Because there is a large amount of people that say it's very funny, especially college kids.
I was in Pennsylvania last week talking to kids about who they're voting for, why they're not voting for Trump.
And they're like, well, I just hate Trump.
I'd never vote for Trump.
And I'm like, well, why?
And I'm like, OK, well, what do you think about the second assassination attempt?
And they're like, well, they missed.
Like, he got caught.
And that's so unfortunate that there's a large part of our generation that wishes death upon somebody.
hannah claire brimelow
There was a lot of that the first time around, too.
And the fact that I have to say first time around referring to July is kind of crazy.
Do you think that the hatred of Donald Trump is something that people who are doing get-out-the-vote efforts should take seriously?
I mean, do you just regard those people as a lost cause, or are they not even voting?
morgonn mcmichael
I mean, when it comes to Gen Z, like Pennsylvania, battleground state, I saw Turning Point Action directly We registered over 600 people on college campuses to vote in the state, which is phenomenal.
But then when you're talking to the people that are like, well, I hate Trump.
I'd never vote for him.
Some of them are kind of lost causes.
The number one issue for Gen Z, I believe, is going to be abortion and it is abortion.
But when you talk to conservative Gen Zers, they say no inflation, which is such a polarizing, like two separate issues that we're talking about.
And so when it comes to the Kamala Harris supporters and The Gen Zers, I think that a lot of them are lost causes because they've just, they've drank the Kool-Aid and they just hate Trump and they're never Trumpers and there's no amount of facts or knowledge that you could show them or even talking about an assassination attempt that will ever change their mind, unfortunately.
But we're trying.
elad eliahu
It's funny because the young people, Trump is the least, the most pro-choice Republican ever, but the youth are still concerned about his lack of pro-choice bona fides.
It makes sense and it's very understandable.
If that's the issue you care about, you're voting for a Democrat.
And that's an issue that's sinking Republicans.
hannah claire brimelow
And if you've heard Kamala Harris say over and over again, every state that has a restrictive, right, or like when, Indiana, if passes an abortion restriction, she refers to it as a Trump abortion ban, even though he's not from that state, and it was done by the state legislator when he wasn't in office, right?
Like, he claims victory for the overturning of Roe v. Wade, and I understand the link.
On the other hand, he himself is not showing up at any of these state houses advocating for these specific laws.
I think there are, you know, members of Congress that are way more involved with this kind of advocacy than, I would say, Donald Trump.
What I find fascinating about young voters is that they feel really divided and there was a poll from I think NBC that said overall the economy is the biggest concern for all young Americans but you do see these other like second tier issues become sort of the thing that they talk about like even if they are like yeah I know like I can't afford anything I want to buy a house they all sort of even conservatives have a second thing that they turn to whether it's on both sides abortion or whether it's The Israel-Palestine conflict.
I think that there is a level of disinterest because no one can get all of these issues right for young progressive voters.
I don't know how you feel about that.
morgonn mcmichael
Yeah, no, they can't get it right because that's even talking to, I talked to this very, very progressive woman and she is pro-choice up until birth.
She says that it's not a life until it's war.
I mean, I debated this girl for over an hour and we just never got anywhere.
But then she said, but the one issue that's really conflicting me about Kamala Harris is Israel-Palestine because she won't say that it's genocide and she won't say anything about a ceasefire.
So it's like the progressive liberals that are supporting Kamala Harris, there's still no winning because it's still like they don't like her about certain issues.
But then even you said, yes, Trump is the most pro-choice Republican we've ever seen, but it's not enough for the left because They want to murder him.
elad eliahu
Well, the other Republicans are dragging Trump down when they're trying to make him more pro-life.
You've seen some pro-life groups say that he's not sufficiently pro-choice.
But overturning Roe v. Wade was probably the pro-life movement's biggest accomplishment in decades.
hannah claire brimelow
So if I'm a woman and care about abortion, I'm Well, and the abortion issue became an expansive topic for Democrats, right?
Because it's not just abortion, it's women's reproductive rights, which means that it's everything now from fertility treatments to the care you get after you miscarry a baby to abortions.
I mean, that's kind of crazy.
elad eliahu
purists who are dragging people down. I don't know if you're a pro-life purist,
but like it's the life and conception people who Democrats are able to
fearmonger around. When they say IVF, if you're a pro-life purist, you're
against IVF, you're probably against IUDs, which is scary for most
tim pool
normie Democrats. Right, but I gotta push back. It's not the pro-life purists, it's
the militant pro-life purists.
There are a lot of people who are pro-life purists who are like, I understand this is not the political battleground right now and Trump needs to win, and then you have the political activists who are like, Trump doesn't deserve my vote unless he gives me everything I want.
elad eliahu
To clarify, pro-life purist, I mean life at Conceptioner.
tim pool
I know.
morgonn mcmichael
I'd say I'm a pro-life purist.
Life at conception, and yeah, IVF, they are lives, they are embryos, but at the end of the day, when you look at it from a legislative perspective, yeah, I want Trump in office and I want to protect as many baby lives as physically possible, but if that means Kamala Harris winning because pro-life people won't vote for Trump because he's not pro-life enough, that just doesn't make any sense to me.
tim pool
And that's my point.
There are people who are like, I am a pro-life purist, but I will compromise so Trump can win.
And then there are the militant who are like, no, I will not vote for Trump unless he gives me 100%, which is insane.
My response to that was, I'm anti-war and Trump doesn't deserve anti-war votes unless he bans war.
And it's like, dude, the idea that, I was telling this to libertarians, the idea that you're going to vote for a president who's going to walk in on day one and go, I hereby abolish all American war is never going to happen.
And if you do something like that, you're going to get Afghanistan times 100.
If you want to wind down foreign intervention where you can, you do it gradually.
Rome wasn't built in a day.
You're not going to knock it down in a day.
And so that means I like Donald Trump's foreign policy.
It's pretty good.
It's anti-interventionist.
He's pulling a lot back.
He's not perfect.
When the libertarians are like, yeah, well, Trump did bad thing.
And I'm like, he certainly did.
And he's done less bad thing than anybody else.
So I'll take it.
elad eliahu
I think it's like kind of analogous to how some Kamala people or some Palestine supporters don't believe Kamala is sufficiently pro-Palestine.
So it's like a lesser of the two evils thing.
So Morgan, when it comes to the abortion issue, you think Donald Trump will be lesser of the two evils, although he doesn't get the ultimate goal done.
hannah claire brimelow
But I think what we're missing is the fact that Democrats have turned abortion into an expansive issue.
If they were purists on this issue, they would stick to abortion solely.
But instead, they're like, actually, Trump is going to take your birth control away, and actually he's going to make it impossible for you to see a doctor.
elad eliahu
I think it's two things.
hannah claire brimelow
I think Americans don't have a good understanding of any of the science behind reproduction, and I think we should blame a lot of things for that.
Some people blame absence-only education, some people just blame our general education system.
I think it is a weakness that we have put ourselves into and Democrats are capitalizing.
I bet there are a ton of other issues that people can point to and say, well, it was just this one thing with Democrats at first, but now it's 27 things and they put it under this one label and now Republicans are having to defend themselves on eight sides as opposed to one.
It's a very different conversation to say, you know, I feel strongly about the, like, life begins at conception and therefore these restrictions should be in place.
But then if you have to answer all of these questions about like, you know, this treatment,
and she's not gonna have a doctor, and what about birth control, and whatever else, like,
they will always be on the offensive, you will always be on the defensive.
morgonn mcmichael
Yeah, I really feel like there's no winning when it comes to the abortion argument,
because they have encapsulated everything into being, well, you're just anti-woman as well.
Like, they have taken this and coined it as the feminist movement's new pillar of, if you are not pro-abortion, then all of a sudden you're anti-birth control, you're anti-surrogacy, you're anti-IVF, you're anti-all of these things, which isn't the case.
elad eliahu
Well, it's the logical conclusion of many of those things.
Although you principally might not want to legislate that way, if you believe that life begins at conception and aren't going to use all the embryos in IVF, it would make sense why you'd be against that.
With IUDs, for example, you could still have a fertilized egg that won't be able to implant as a result of the IUD, so it would make sense as to why you'd be against IUDs.
hannah claire brimelow
pro-life and make a commitment, like if you're gonna fertilize, number one, you would go
to a doctor and say, I don't want to fertilize 18 embryos.
I want to try one at a time.
I want to do whatever I can to mitigate excessive risk.
elad eliahu
But it wouldn't be economically feasible, I guess.
hannah claire brimelow
We don't know that, though.
I mean, so far, we're just saying like, this is the way it is, so that's all we can do.
But I know doctors who have had conversations with pro-life Catholics and have changed
the way they operate. So like this is a conversation that like if you feel strongly about it you should
advocate for yourself but instead you're being told any questioning of this means that you are
anti-woman and I think that's actually terrible for a country that has a collapsing birth rate.
tim pool
Did you guys see Andrew Tait's AI pregnancy video? Let's pull this tweet up. I gotta say I don't
completely agree with his framing and phrasing of this but I understand what he's trying to get to.
So we'll talk about this one just because it covers AI as well as the abortion debate.
And this is actually the biggest... I actually think abortion for the Democrats is probably the biggest issue.
It's their cultural attack vector.
Andrew Tate made this video.
He says, AI is the future.
A machine read my Twitter, created this video, and then made this post all on its own.
You need AI to begin living your life for you if you want to get ahead.
Kind of a creepy thing.
I am not a com- I- I- I- I- Well, we'll break this one down, but he made this video.
And it's actually kind of crazy that this was made by an AI.
Check this video out.
Okay, for those that are just listening, I'll give you the quick version.
It's only 20 seconds.
It shows a picture of, it's a video of her when she's pregnant.
It shows a baby apparently being born.
She's then laying with her baby in a pool or in a bath.
She's singing to her child and reading a story.
Then it says, this could have been you with a woman in an office surrounded by files and paperwork.
Then her miserable looking sitting on a subway in the rain.
It says, it's not worth it.
Peak female performance is pregnancy.
I'm not a big fan of the phrasing, but I understand the idea he's trying to get across.
It's also insane that an AI just generated this video.
But I get his message, and I thought it was interesting when you guys were talking about the abortion debate, what feminism is.
You were mentioning just a moment ago that they tell feminism is basically being in an office and being a girl boss, and it's actually kind of scary because Look, I don't care what you do.
If you have ladies that are listening, you do whatever you want, okay?
Fine, by me.
But, like, understand, there was that cover of the magazine, you guys remember it?
And she's like, I froze my eggs.
Women can have it all.
A few years later, when she tried unfreezing the eggs to have kids, they were all destroyed.
And she said she screamed like a wild animal, realizing she would never be a mother.
So just understand that there is their weird Malthusian move to convince women in any possible way not to have families.
morgonn mcmichael
Yeah.
No, I think this video should be played on every single mainstream network and actually wake up the feminists that are locked into their laptops for nine to five, eight hours a day that have been lied to to climb this corporate ladder to equal success when in reality they'll never actually be fulfilled because I truly believe that Full fulfillment for women will come through motherhood.
And even feminists, they will be leftist their whole life, all of a sudden get married, have kids and their life completely changes and hormonal balances in women.
And it's like, women have truly gotten the short end of the stick when it comes to society because we've been lied to for so long and convinced that true happiness is doing what we want.
And it's very individualistic instead of looking forward of what does my future look like?
And how am I actually going to give back and raise the next generation?
But it's true.
Like, why are we allowing women to sit at desks for eight hours a day and then send their kids off to daycare, send their kids off to be raised by somebody else that's not them?
This is not how you have a functioning society.
Functioning societies and restoring Western civilization towards the future is going to be through the nuclear family.
hannah claire brimelow
Right.
One of the big lies that feminists, I think, gave to women When they were pushing for equality was that men and women are essentially the same and you should be able to do everything a man can do and they shouldn't hold you back and whatever else.
And the reality is that we're totally different.
We are biologically different and that's why all women have to ask themselves at some point, am I going to prioritize having a family and children?
Men have to ask themselves this too, to a certain degree.
They have to make time to get married and be there for their wives and their children, but they are able to reproduce for a lot longer than women.
And so they don't have the same kind of constraints.
They navigate their lives differently.
I think one of the problems, one of the lies that we hear all the time is like, That the fact that you can carry a child is somehow kind of this weird burden.
But it's not.
No, it's not.
And Mindy Kaling put out this, she was interviewed, and she said one of the best things that parents could do for their college-aged daughter was to offer to freeze their eggs for them.
Forget the fact that freezing your eggs involves intense hormonal treatments, is expensive, would mean that you would later have to go through IVF, another round of intense hormonal treatments.
Any kind of hormonal treatment comes with certain risks that they're not talking about.
It makes it so that women are told, ignore These – I would think a gift that you have that men can't do, they cannot bear children, I think that's really special that women are able to do that.
But also act like it is a burden of your life and avoid it at all cost.
Right.
Instead of a gift.
And I think that's a lie.
I just think that's dumb.
I think it will lead to a lot of people being unhappy, not just women.
I think there are men who fall in love with women who are like, well, I don't want to have kids for 10 years and they naively are like, okay, I'll go along with it.
And then they unfortunately cannot have children as a couple.
And that's sad, right?
morgonn mcmichael
Not to mention how corporations are pretty much incentivizing women to go the IVF route and freeze their eggs and de-incentivizing motherhood, especially when it comes to maternity leave and then, you know, giving women the opportunity and paying for abortions in other states, whatever it may be, to where they are taking away a woman's really inherent desires and incentivizing.
Actually, no.
Instead, stay working at my company.
hannah claire brimelow
And make more money for Big Pharma.
morgonn mcmichael
Yes.
hannah claire brimelow
Great.
Good.
Good job, women.
morgonn mcmichael
Awesome.
unidentified
Nice.
tim pool
There was a great post by Cernovich where he was basically saying that dudes will be man-children forever without women.
That basically, women are the ones who go to men and say, it's time to be a dad, it's time to be a man and do these things, and then guys say, you know, okay, for the woman.
But he was talking about, and I could be getting a little bit wrong, but I'm trying not to misquote him, that, you know, guys are gonna be successful, they're gonna make money, and they're gonna be like, Why change anything I'm doing?
I've got everything I want, but then you wake up at 40 like, oh crap.
Where it used to be a woman would be in her 20s and she'd be like, time to settle down, dude.
But now we're in this era of...
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
Anybody can do whatever they want, whenever they want.
Abortions is contraception.
There's no repercussions.
So now there's quite literally no reason to become an adult.
And we're looking at a collapsing birth rate.
You know, I was talking to a friend just a moment ago about why we're seeing this mass influx with temporary protected status and illegal immigration.
It's actually quite simple.
It's all tied together.
The mass spending on the Ukrainian war, on the Ukraine war, as well as other wars, requires that we, as long as we're going to keep printing and spending money to control for inflation, you need massive economic growth.
You need to bring in tons of people who are going to meet the demand of that mass spending so that things kind of level off.
So what do they do?
They open up the borders.
This is the machine they've built.
The government wants to create debt out of thin air to fund their wars, so they flood the country with non-citizens.
Meanwhile, the American culture in the corporate press, Hollywood, and music promotes a lifestyle that prevents people from having families.
So it's almost like this machine—some people believe it's an intentional Malthusian thing, but I don't know if I believe that, because at the same time, they're bringing in mass migration to replace the workers that should have been from parents in America.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
It's like we don't value ourselves as a country, right?
I think some of the lie that we get told from the media is there's no American culture or like it's stuff that you make fun of, right?
It's McDonald's and being overweight or whatever.
But the reality is we don't have a culture because we don't cultivate it at home.
And if we cultivate it at home, then we have something to protect and promote and to pass down.
But then we would need people to pass it down to, and so you're seeing where I'm coming from when I say we're not doing all the things we need to have and protect the culture that I think a lot of people worked really hard to establish and create in this country.
morgonn mcmichael
Also, increasingly, younger generations are less proud of America, and I do think that that's a fundamental problem, because if there's no pride in your country and actually loving the place that you live, then how are you supposed to continue to pass that down to further generations?
So I wanted to touch on, economically in our country, we've gotten to a place where double income, no kids.
You have dinks rocking around where they don't want to have children, but they feel like they can't afford it, which is also another lie that I think has been sold to women and men is that, well, kids are just so expensive.
I'm never going to be able to afford them the lifestyle that I want to get them.
So let's just not have kids.
And I don't think that that's the way to bring society back.
tim pool
I saw a crazy post where it was like, doctors find a living baby in a dumpster.
And some liberal responded with, crazy what happens when you force people to give birth to children.
And it's like, what's the argument then?
Kill the baby before it came out so it doesn't die in a dumpster?
Like both are really bad, dude.
unidentified
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
And we have an adoption system.
There's private adoption.
You could put your kid in foster care.
You don't have to leave your baby in a dumpster.
tim pool
You put them on a fire department stoop.
hannah claire brimelow
Right.
They make special baby boxes so that this child doesn't die of exposure.
I think that's the crazy argument.
I think the reality is you have to take responsibility for your actions and having a loophole like,
well, I should be able to pretend like this never happened, even though I think they aren't
honest about the emotional consequences and definitely not the physical consequences of
abortions.
It's like deleting a period of your life that you don't care about.
I saw this clip from – that's that show Sex and the City.
And one of the characters is pregnant, I guess, and she doesn't know if she wants it.
And once upset, she has infertility.
And then one of them is like, look, it's super normal.
I've had two abortions.
How many have you had?
And the other girl's like, one.
And I kept thinking, this is weird.
And I'm pretty sure most of those women end up childless at the end of the show.
I've never seen the whole series.
Isn't that weird that this is what we're promoting?
morgonn mcmichael
But that's what Hollywood will continue to do because think of how many women have watched that show and it continues to normalize.
Well it's okay if you want to continue to party with your girlfriends and be in your 30s and have no kids when in reality that's just depressing and sad.
elad eliahu
I don't want to sound a little bit too out of touch, but as far as political issues that actually mobilize women or young people generally, this is the thing.
People aren't voting on a lot of other issues, especially young people or women generally.
If you're not very involved in politics and you hear about this issue, this will be something
that will actually mobilize you.
Not whatever's going on in Ukraine, not like the economy a little bit one way or another
where you don't think it's a big deal.
It's like, oh, my ability to potentially go get an abortion in case I get knocked up by
a dude that I don't want to keep his baby with.
Is the situation that the tall presses are asking?
hannah claire brimelow
Especially because it's expansive, right?
When the Rove decision ended, I remember getting my hair cut and the girl being like, well, my sister had a miscarriage and now she wouldn't be able to get the procedure that helps, like if you're far enough along, you need to surgically remove the baby from the uterus after it's Which is not an abortion.
It's not an abortion.
And I remember looking at it and I was like, well, that's not really the same thing because that baby has passed, sadly.
Like, it's a miscarriage.
And it's because the messaging is like, they're coming for everything.
They're coming from the birth control pill, to your doctor, to everything.
Women will have no rights.
Like, women will have no rights.
And I think that you're totally right.
It's the fear mongering.
But again, like, that's actually very abusive of a political party to be like, you are under such threat, you have to go to the polls.
tim pool
We're going to jump in a massive hard segue to a completely unrelated story.
Ladies and gentlemen, from the New York Times, the Pentagon will be sending more U.S.
troops to the Middle East as tensions rise.
This is it.
World War III, ladies and gentlemen, this is exactly what's happening.
There's no other explanation.
With the sending of more U.S.
troops, it means the end is nigh, and they say, the troops will number in the dozens.
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
That actually doesn't sound that bad, actually.
Not that I'm a fan of these deployments or anything like that, but, you know, a lot of people are coming out and they're saying it's apocalyptic, they think it's going to signal World War III or whatever, but it looks like the number will be in the dozens, which kind of sounds like 48, maybe?
hannah claire brimelow
But it's to protect the thousands of Americans who are stationed there.
Stationed implies, what, diplomatic or military posting?
elad eliahu
No, military.
I'm just saying, it's not like 10,000 people or whatever, right?
tim pool
So however, it is interesting because they are likening this or relating it to the Israeli airstrikes against Hezbollah that killed at least 350 people in Lebanon, Defense Department officials said on Monday.
Major General Patrick S. Ryder, the Pentagon press secretary, declined to say exactly how many troops are deploying, citing operational security.
In light of increased tension in the Middle East and out of an abundance of caution, we are sending a small number of additional U.S.
military personnel forward to augment our forces that are already in the region.
I think we have what, 40,000 in the region or some massive number?
elad eliahu
We're seeing more of them arrive now.
This is in part due to the escalation and what I think we could call officially a war with Israel and Hezbollah.
Since October 7th, Israel and Hezbollah have been engaging in low-level warfare, shooting rockets across the border.
Northern Israel was forced to evacuate something like close to 100,000 people.
Southern Lebanon was forced to evacuate something like 50,000 people.
And we've been seeing the intensity of this conflict kind of rise with the walkie-talkie and pager attacks.
tim pool
That was a 15-year operation, they said.
Did you hear that?
elad eliahu
It's amazing.
tim pool
They set up a shell company, a fake company out of Hungary to manufacture pagers.
The whole thing was done over 15 years.
That's crazy, dude.
elad eliahu
The Jews are really trying to win over back some prestige after their major failures on October 7th.
But then following that attack, we've seen some of the Hezbollah generals get killed.
So Israel cannot allow Hezbollah to exist on its border, which is why they're taking these moves.
And I think this is some posturing by the United States to prevent a wider outbreak.
tim pool
Does it?
Isn't Hezbollah the official military of Lebanon?
elad eliahu
So they're a part of the government.
They're like a faction of the government.
Lebanon is like ruled by multiple factions.
Rival.
So there's the Hezbollah is like the Shia faction.
There are Sunnis, there's other different ethnic groups in the region.
But I really think this is one part of the chessboard, in the larger chessboard.
We're seeing things escalate in Ukraine.
We're seeing things escalate in Israel.
God forbid we're going to see things escalate in the Taiwan Strait.
And this is all due to Joe Biden's weakness at the top of the American government.
tim pool
Bro, did you see the cabinet meeting with Jill?
elad eliahu
First one in 11 months.
hannah claire brimelow
Here we go.
tim pool
And he says, take it away, kid.
But listen to him speak.
unidentified
He's just like... Like, he's gone.
tim pool
He is gone.
morgonn mcmichael
He's not running the country.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
And he's probably not for a while now.
So New York Post had a story.
He's taken 48 years worth of vacations in four.
I don't think he's ever been doing anything.
He's been just screwing off.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, when you're about to retire, you have to use up those vacation days.
tim pool
That's right.
hannah claire brimelow
The Biden administration is completely in sort of senioritis legacy building mode.
And so he'll posture on Israel and Palestine right now saying like, oh, I'm really going to get, I mean, he doesn't say it.
One of his spokespeople says, we're really going to get serious about a ceasefire.
We're not going to let them do whatever.
But then, obviously, to your point, things are escalating.
I don't think that he has any actual influence over any kind of ceasefire or peace talks, which puts Kamala Harris in a very weird position, right?
Because the best thing she could do To win supporters right now is to promise that she would guarantee a ceasefire, which she absolutely cannot do because she's inheriting the Biden administration, which is terrible legacy, and also because she's not a good negotiator herself.
That's my editorial opinion.
Do you think that there is a path forward before the election, or do you think it's going to be a rise in tension, especially in the Middle East, until America knows who's next leader?
elad eliahu
I think some of our allies fear that we'll pull the rug out from under them if Kamala Harris is elected.
We should be applauding Israel for their attacks against Hezbollah.
I feel like people forgot that Hezbollah was responsible for the death of hundreds of American servicemen when our embassy was bombed in Lebanon, among other terrorist attacks.
So, you know, Israel is really fulfilling.
I think we had a $7 million bounty on a couple of people that Israel killed, who again were responsible for the death of American servicepeople.
We should be applauding our allies for fighting back.
We should be applauding Ukraine.
hannah claire brimelow
But you think it'll be bolder and bolder action until Trump is potentially elected?
elad eliahu
I think Israel and Ukraine think they'll have more support from Joe Biden and then Donald Trump than they would be getting under Kamala Harris administration.
hannah claire brimelow
That's interesting.
elad eliahu
Especially the case for Israel.
I think that Kamala Harris would try to leverage like weapons rearmaments.
hannah claire brimelow
I would think she would be more supportive of Ukraine than a Trump administration.
elad eliahu
Uh, I think Trump is secretly relatively pro-Ukraine.
Like, I think he's glad to arm Ukraine prior to the invasion.
So, I mean, I think people, you could really project what you want to see from Trump onto him.
hannah claire brimelow
I just think her language has been more consistent, like, we must support Ukraine.
I've met with Zelensky.
He's the best.
Whereas Trump is like, I am prepared to end the wars.
I want to end them.
Because that's what really, I think, more of his constituents want.
They may be sympathetic to Ukraine, but they feel mostly like, why are we involved in yet
another thing?
elad eliahu
Yeah, I think we're really speaking to bigger trends, though, if we zoom out from like more
than the year to year, from like a decade to decade, we are seeing the decline of American
hegemony around the world.
People aren't taking our threat and power and strength seriously around the world like
they used to.
And that will lead to more conflicts among our geopolitical fault lines.
When people aren't scared of American deterrence, we'll see our enemies become more emboldened.
tim pool
That's why we need Trump, sir.
elad eliahu
That's why we need Trump.
And that's because Trump leads through strength.
tim pool
Peace through strength.
I'll tell you what I want to see, okay?
I'll tell you how we get world peace.
An 83-year-old, morbidly obese Donald Trump with his belly sticking out, laying back in a chair, unable to move.
Not a single U.S.
troop in any foreign country or whatever.
And the moment China moves, Trump picks up his phone and goes, I'm gonna nuke you.
I'm going to nuke you right now.
And they're like, stop, stop.
This guy's crazy.
He might do it.
And that's all you need.
That's all you need.
An inactive old man sitting there, overweight, with his finger over the button, being like, don't you do it.
I'll push it.
Donald Trump said that he told Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin he would nuke What do you say, Beijing and Moscow, if China invaded Taiwan or Russia invaded Ukraine?
And they didn't.
Now, China still hasn't invaded Taiwan, but Russia did invade Ukraine.
And Trump was like, I don't know if he believed me, maybe 5%, but that's enough.
And so it is kind of terrifying at the prospect of Donald Trump as president being like, I will nuke your major metropolitan area and kill untold millions of civilians if you invade a country.
But as long as they believe it and it doesn't create any wars, it's kind of like, OK, well, it's preferable to what we have now, isn't it?
elad eliahu
I know we've been fear-mongering, and I mean when I say me, I mean American media writ large, about a war between China and Taiwan for decades now.
But if I'm Xi Jinping, this is probably one of the most opportune times to invade.
The United States is bogged down.
Yeah, we're sending our troops to the Middle East, not Asia.
tim pool
And right now, this is what I'm worried about with the escalation happening.
I believe we have never seen a higher probability of a Chinese invasion of Taiwan than we do right now because Donald Trump may get elected.
And so China's going to be sitting there and they're going to say, you know, cost risk analysis.
If we wait and then we get a Kamala Harris presidency, oh, we're in the clear.
But if we get a Donald Trump presidency, we can never move on Taiwan.
So what do you want to do?
And they're like, well, we got Biden-Kamala right now.
We got two months.
Make the move.
Take Taiwan now before Trump can get in and actually, actually counter.
elad eliahu
And the domestic political turmoil, multiple assassination attempts, allegedly not even linked to any, you know, intelligence services.
Then we have, again, the domestic Turmoil due to the Israel-Palestine conflict that we're seeing still at home.
Ukraine-Russia stuff.
It's... I mean... Hey!
I mean, if I was Xi, if I was a Chinese irredentist communist, thankfully I'm not, but...
morgonn mcmichael
No, it's the right time.
I mean, on an international scale, we look like a laughingstock.
Our country looks like a absolute mess.
And I genuinely think that if Kamala Harris does get in office, the wars are going to continue.
We all know that.
And if it's not Trump, like, I truly think that World War Three will be on the brink because it's going to happen.
elad eliahu
I think there were actually also attacks on our service members in Jordan, right across the border, something like that.
Our troops are constantly under attack by Iranian proxies throughout the Middle East, and Iran has become confident and comfortable that they could kill American service members and there won't be any retaliation.
tim pool
I think the crazy thing is, you look at the attempt at a beachhead in Gaza.
When the U.S.
built that pier that got washed away and was destroyed, they were taking fire from Hamas.
The U.S.
actively engaged.
When I heard this news, I was like, say it.
Say they're going to be boots on the ground in Israel and Lebanon on the northern border over the conflict right now with Lebanon.
That's what I expect to be the case.
And they're not saying it.
They're saying, well, you know, we're in the Middle East and in the dozens.
We'll see.
But we already tried to get boots on the ground.
They denied it.
I loved it.
Who was it who said they were asked about boots on the ground?
And they're like, they're not boots on the ground.
hannah claire brimelow
It was Lloyd Austin, the defense secretary, and Matt Gaetz being like, so boots next to the ground?
tim pool
And he was like, and they're getting shot at?
He's like, that's not boots on the ground?
And he's like, no.
hannah claire brimelow
How much money did we waste on that thing that we ultimately pulled?
I mean, it was a multi-million dollar thing.
tim pool
Wasn't it hundreds of millions of dollars?
hannah claire brimelow
It was hundreds of millions of dollars, and it was, number one, obviously a lie from us, and then also a failure.
You know, to your point about China and Taiwan, there has been concern about growing tension in the Asia Pacific for a long time.
And I think the U.S.
is more quiet on what it's doing.
Like, I remember last year, I think, the U.S.
for the first time ever commissioned a U.S.
ship for our Navy in Australia.
You know, us having a naval presence in Australia is not just for fun and games.
It's not to see the kangaroos.
It's obviously to counter China and its presence there.
But I think sometimes because we don't hear what a threat China is all the time, like a lot of the distraction is, you know, Russia or someone else, especially because we do so much trade with China.
So much of our manufacturing is now in China.
We're sort of dependent on them in a weird way.
There's a level of wanting to walk more carefully.
It's much easier to be like, the Middle East is crazy and so we have to intervene.
We need to send troops there because we are the world's caretaker and police force.
Whereas, you know, with China, I think the US is much more fearful, which as a citizen doesn't make me feel confident in our diplomatic standing in that region.
You know, to your point, I think Kamala Harris does not inspire confidence.
I mean, this is someone who has completely avoided doing public interviews, yet she's
prepared to negotiate with some of the top foreign leaders, both who are friendly and
adversarial in the world.
tim pool
Yeah, she's not.
hannah claire brimelow
No, she can't.
morgonn mcmichael
She's also the one that said that we have no U.S.
troops in war zones or combat zones, which is just a blatant lie.
tim pool
Or she's just that dumb.
Could you imagine, with 40,000 troops in the Middle East, we've had the Iranian-backed militias attacking U.S.
personnel, injuring them, the three service members you mentioned in Jordan.
She goes to negotiating and she walks up to some, you know, world leader, Putin or whoever, and he says, withdraw your troops from the Middle East.
We don't have any in there!
He's gonna be like, what?
hannah claire brimelow
What did they just send me?
I don't understand.
morgonn mcmichael
Why are there troops in my country?
tim pool
The translator must be wrong.
Someone speak better English.
She said there's no troops in the Middle East.
hannah claire brimelow
We're clearly not communicating with her, and it turns out you can't communicate with her.
There was this letter that the Harris Walls campaign is promoting that, you know, top former military officials are signing in support of her, which to me, if you are an active service member, if you are the family member of a service member, Wouldn't you then feel like everyone was about to betray you?
She doesn't even know where our troops are yet this is the person who wants to be the commander-in-chief?
morgonn mcmichael
And how much money are all of these people who are signing that making?
hannah claire brimelow
Right.
morgonn mcmichael
Because there is so much money to be made from arms trading and then even when you see like Josh Shapiro signing the bombs or I don't remember what it was but signing them and Zelensky standing right there behind him like Crazy.
tim pool
Signing the bombs.
elad eliahu
Wait, why is that crazy?
tim pool
That he's signing bombs manufactured in Pennsylvania with Zelensky?
Americans are not in favor of war in general.
elad eliahu
In Pennsylvania, support for Ukraine is popular, and these are more jobs happening in Pennsylvania.
tim pool
The jobs thing I understand.
elad eliahu
And they're going to fight what they see as tyranny.
Trump's a threat to democracy.
Putin's a threat to democracy.
tim pool
I feel like signing bombs like that is just bad people.
morgonn mcmichael
Those bombs are going to kill people.
elad eliahu
I mean, kill bad people who are invading your homeland.
tim pool
We are America, Alad.
elad eliahu
We are the United States.
Oh, Shapiro and Zelensky were signing the bombs, I guess.
Russia is a common enemy of ours.
They're invading a sovereign country.
hannah claire brimelow
But now Ukraine is fighting in Russia.
So that war does not seem to be this one-sided narrative that we thought it was.
I personally don't think we should ever have been involved.
I can understand having sympathy to a smaller country that is maybe seeming like it's being... It wasn't sparked by Ukraine.
elad eliahu
Ukraine's invading Russia back...
hannah claire brimelow
If we believe in peace through strength, we need to work hard at reinvigorating our manufacturing capacity, our arms capacity, and that needs to start in Pennsylvania.
to kill people especially when it's civilians that seems weird to me. If we believe in peace
elad eliahu
through strength we need to work hard at reinvigorating our manufacturing capacity
our arms capacity and that needs to start in Pennsylvania it's a good thing it's happening
hannah claire brimelow
in Pennsylvania. We could bring back other manufacturing jobs.
tim pool
It doesn't have to be... Well, let's break this down, too.
It's important to understand the $250 billion spent on Ukraine isn't in Ukraine for the most part.
A lot of the money did go to these groups that were fraudulent, and the government gave them to fake businesses who took the money and ran.
That's true.
But most of the money is spent here to make weapons that will be shipped there.
So a lot of people like the jobs.
I can't remember who we're talking to.
It might have been Gates.
I don't know if it was Gates, but the member of Congress was like, well, there's members of Congress whose whole economy is weapons manufacturing.
Totally.
If they come back and say we're opposed to war, all those jobs are gone.
Ain't nobody going to vote for them.
elad eliahu
Well, armed manufacturers do this on purpose.
They'll work with congressmen to have their factories be in their districts.
And that is the basis of the military-industrial complex, which, for the record, I think is a good thing.
I think it's important for us to have a strong military.
And the way we deter our enemies is with a strong military.
So I think we really need to reinvigorate that.
hannah claire brimelow
I don't mind having a strong military.
I think it's weird that Josh Peer, the governor of Pennsylvania, would sign missiles that are going to kill people in two countries that he is not tied to.
They didn't attack Americans, it's Russians and Ukrainians fighting amongst themselves.
Seems very strange to me.
But, you know, maybe I'm just anti-war.
tim pool
Hey look, I don't like that China has Uyghur Muslims in concentration camps and they extract their organs to sell to wealthy Middle Easterners who want halal organ transplants.
That's nightmarish.
I don't like that they have the Uyghur Muslims be raped and then many of them undergo forced abortions.
I ain't about to advocate for invading China and getting involved in a massive international conflict with World War Three over it.
I don't know what you do, sanctions or something?
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, we could have done a better job boycotting the Olympics.
That would have been a good one.
Again, we're too afraid to make, you know, Belarus and Russia were totally banned from competing under their flags in both of the Olympics that have happened since the invasion.
But we still went to China, told all our athletes, don't bring your cell phones because they will be tapped by the Chinese government.
We're just not going to send our top officials and diplomats because we're like soft boycotting this.
We treat China so differently than we do Russia.
We obviously know why.
I just think that this like fear of Russia is slightly misplaced.
elad eliahu
I think that we should be more serious about They're second fiddle to China now, but it's unfortunate and sad.
I'm deeply insecure about how infiltrated we are by the Chinese communists, that is.
I feel like there was just a scandal recently with Governor Kathy Hochul.
Some of her... A former top aide.
A former top aide was involved with the CCP.
She's not the only one.
There was another California congressman not too long ago.
And this is probably just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to a lot of this infiltration.
And the thing is, they're not worried as much about the reverse happening in China because we cannot as effectively infiltrate China because they aren't a multicultural society.
They aren't open to immigration like we are.
We're welcoming to everybody here in our country.
But China, if you're not Chinese, you stand out.
tim pool
However, the argument would then be that there are people born who are of Chinese ethnicity to Chinese family and speak fluent Mandarin, and then enlist, and they say, you're ethnically Chinese, we're going to send you to China.
elad eliahu
It's harder to convince.
tim pool
Because immigration, especially.
Because even if you have an American-born Chinese man who goes to China, they're going to be like, you're an American, you're a foreigner.
So they're gonna- it's not as easy.
And then they send someone here to emigrate, or I don't- you know, it's because we're open to immigration.
elad eliahu
Well, they take advantage of our values.
They take it- China looks at us and our ideals that, you know, we bring in all people of all races into our army, and they see that as a weakness to take advantage of cynically.
So...
tim pool
Let's jump to this next story.
We got an ad from the Lincoln Project, ladies and gentlemen, and let me tell you what this ad's all about.
The Democrats know that they got a woman problem.
They know that people don't want to vote for Kamala Harris because she is a woman.
I am not saying, leftist YouTubers who want to lie, that people should not vote for a woman.
I'm saying Democrats are looking at their internal polling and they're going, hey man, people are outright saying they won't support a woman for president.
We have this ad from Lincoln Project.
Take a listen.
unidentified
I can't believe we're having this conversation again.
So here we go.
You know who the candidates are.
You know what's at stake.
One candidate promises a divided America filled with lies and hate.
and one stands for change.
Kamala Harris has more courage, more honor, more guts than this guy ever had.
So you decide, are we really going back down that same fucking broken road,
or are we moving forward, towards hope, towards freedom, towards change?
kamala harris
We know a strong middle class has always been critical to America's success.
unidentified
There's promise that lies in change.
And the time for change is now.
So what the hell are you waiting for?
Because if it's the woman thing, it's time to get over that.
It's time for hope.
For change.
It's time to be a man and vote for a woman.
tim pool
Be a man, vote for a woman.
Dude, wow, that's the least convincing thing I've ever heard.
But like I said, they know they got a woman problem.
Men and women.
There's many of them who don't want to vote for a woman.
And I'm not sitting here making a moral judgment on them.
You know, the left will claim that I'm sexist or whatever, fine, whatever.
I'm saying, the Democrats, the Lincoln Project, there's also the white dudes for Harris, where they're trying to do this thing where like, come on guys, vote for the woman!
Because they know there are guys out there being like, I ain't voting for no woman.
elad eliahu
What was the argument for voting for a woman?
unidentified
They were like, yeah, if you're a man... Trump is bad, vote for a woman.
elad eliahu
I think it was just, get over it.
The argument was, get over it.
tim pool
He said, what the hell are you waiting for?
The woman thing?
Get over it.
elad eliahu
You're worried about being a woman?
hannah claire brimelow
He said she's more courageous and has more guts than this guy Trump ever has.
He didn't name one of her accomplishments.
In their scary split screen of Trump's apparent shortfallings, they never counted it with
like here are the things that she accomplished.
This is the problem with Kamala Harris.
That's why she wants another debate.
She can only run a I am not Trump campaign and Trump is a known quantity.
She's unknown and she refuses to provide factual evidence for these claims that she is successful and good.
She's just there because she is Joe Biden's woman of color VP.
We all know that.
elad eliahu
What are you, scared of cooties?
Get over it.
tim pool
Get over it.
You're mad about inflation?
Get over it.
You're upset about the war in Ukraine?
Get over it.
You're mad about the border being left unguarded?
Get over it.
Is that the argument?
elad eliahu
Nobody voted for Kamala Harris?
Get over it.
tim pool
I got an idea for the political campaign.
Democrats, I'm gonna help you out.
Vote for Kamala.
Just because.
hannah claire brimelow
Because I told you so.
tim pool
Stop, stop.
Here's one.
Here's my political campaign ad for Kamala Harris.
Are you an American citizen who is tired of all of the problems this country faces?
From foreign wars, inflation, stagnant wages, and an open border?
Well, stop caring about it.
And that's it.
Yeah, you'll be fine.
Just focus on other things and there you go.
Nothing to worry about.
hannah claire brimelow
What if they run an ad that's like, Donald Trump keeps talking about how bad the border is and the economy.
He's making us sad.
Vote for Kamala Harris.
She doesn't talk about this at all.
She's not lifting.
elad eliahu
I like get over it as a tagline.
tim pool
Wait, I got a better one.
hannah claire brimelow
I like the cooties one.
tim pool
Are you an American who is tired of the problems of inflation, stagnant wages, foreign war?
Stick your fingers in your ear, close your eyes, and it all goes away.
hannah claire brimelow
Kamala Harris would never make you hear about such horrible things.
morgonn mcmichael
You can't afford groceries?
tim pool
You know what's really funny about this though?
While the Democrats are doing these ads, like remember the white dudes for Harris one where it's like, I'm a guy and I'm gonna vote for Kamala and it's like really annoying.
The funny thing is Trump's ads are Kamala Harris going, the cost of bread has gone up and gas is up and just cuts to Trump going, I'm Donald Trump and I approve this message.
There's another one that's being shared where it's Tim Waltz going, We can't afford another four years of this!
I'm Donald Trump and I approve this message.
So, I don't know about that one, but there is a legitimate ad playing on YouTube where it's Kamala Harris saying the price of gas is up, bread is up, groceries are up, and it just cuts to Trump saying, I'm Donald Trump and I approve this message.
It's an actual advertisement running.
hannah claire brimelow
She should not be running a change campaign considering she is tied to the incumbent in such an intense way.
It is the Biden-Harris administration.
I cannot tell you how many times I heard that insisted upon.
And yet she's like, we need change.
So pick me, another Democrat who was specifically in the White House for the last four years.
morgonn mcmichael
No, I'm saying we can't go back.
Her entire campaign, the Democratic Party has separated Kamala Harris from Joe Biden entirely, even though she's the sitting vice president of the United States and has done nothing in the last three and a half years.
Like, if you actually wanted to help our American people at the grocery stores, if you wanted to help inflation, the economy, the housing market, do something about it.
but she's never actually put forth any ideas. And we even saw that the ideas on her campaign website
were copy-pasted the code from Joe Biden's website. Like she has no original thoughts or ideas. And I
mean, her entire debate was all talking points. So you're anti-woman then? So anti. I hate women.
elad eliahu
It's funny they even made this ad because I thought the Lincoln Project was defunct after their alleged scandal where one of their CEOs, Weaver, offered young men professional support in exchange for sex, according to the New York Times.
Yeah, so that was a scandal the Lincoln Project had.
hannah claire brimelow
They have to stop Donald Trump.
elad eliahu
And I thought they, I didn't know they came back.
Yeah, I thought they imploded among that scandal in 2021.
unidentified
But I guess they're Still going.
elad eliahu
They're still here.
morgonn mcmichael
I just like how this ad was trying to go after middle America, like there was the farmers, the old white guy at the white picket fence, and going after the families, the army veteran, and I'm like, none of those people are voting for Kamala Harris.
elad eliahu
Morgan, you gotta admit though, the trucker hat does have some, it's demure, is that what you guys are saying nowadays?
morgonn mcmichael
I am not Gen Z enough for that.
elad eliahu
Or thoughtful.
hannah claire brimelow
It's not mindful.
elad eliahu
Oh, mindful.
But it does have some Gen Z swag.
morgonn mcmichael
The camo hat with the Harris walls is not demure.
It would be a lot more demure if it said Trump on it.
elad eliahu
That's their icon.
hannah claire brimelow
I will die on this.
elad eliahu
Like, oh, that's who like, Emma Hoffman.
Is that her name?
hannah claire brimelow
Del Hoffman.
elad eliahu
Del Hoffman wears that hat in her.
hannah claire brimelow
Emhoff.
unidentified
Emhoff with her tats and Didn't they say that like she designed it or something?
hannah claire brimelow
She came up with a pop star that's rising.
Wow, creative.
I love it.
No, I mean, I think that the reality is this like, Shaming people into voting for someone by saying, you know, it's like the same thing of saying like, well, if you're not willing to date a trans person, you're actually transphobic.
You know, like it's the same sort of weird fear mongering you into being possibly labeled as bigoted.
tim pool
Are you not dating another guy?
Get over it!
morgonn mcmichael
That's all the left has.
All they have is continuous fear-mongering.
Whatever issue it is, if you do not fit in their cookie-cutter model of what the left is, then you're not welcome here or we're going to force you to vote for our candidate.
tim pool
Don't like communism?
Get over it!
hannah claire brimelow
What if Kamala Harris comes out at whatever next fake interview she does and is like, there's been a lot of talk about my ties to the Biden administration.
Get over it.
morgonn mcmichael
Like, I'm different, I'm gonna change.
hannah claire brimelow
I'm different, and I'm not gonna talk about it anymore.
tim pool
I like this a lot, actually.
It's like now, whenever there's a problem, I just tell people to get over it.
elad eliahu
They tried to assassinate Trump twice.
Get over it.
tim pool
Sir, sir, you can't park your car there.
Get over it!
elad eliahu
Can you play that part back again?
The way he set it to the tone of the Get Over It.
tim pool
Is that Joaquin Phoenix, by the way?
unidentified
is now. So what the hell are you waiting for? Because if it's the woman thing, it's time to
get over that. It's time to get over that time for hope for change.
It's time to be a man and vote for a woman.
tim pool
I think that is the least convincing thing I have ever heard.
I am a man, and if someone was like, you don't want women firefighters?
Get over it!
I'd be like, no, what?
I think firefighters can be women, but I don't think the issue should be you should just put women in the fire department to be firefighters.
If there's like a 6'5 woman who can lift 200 pounds, then she can be a firefighter.
I don't care.
But the arbitrary argument of a woman should be in the fire department, I disagree with.
Any person who is capable of lifting 150 pounds could be a firefighter.
I'm not going to get over it.
elad eliahu
I like how they're doing this masculine angle.
Be a man.
hannah claire brimelow
I think it's weird that they're like, if we talk down to them and threaten their masculinity, then they'll do what we say.
elad eliahu
Threaten their masculinity.
Yeah.
Like, come on, be a man.
What are you, a woman?
What are you going to vote for a dude?
tim pool
Be a man.
Vote for a woman.
Don't be a woman.
elad eliahu
What is a woman?
hannah claire brimelow
I think they should also stop saying it's this woman thing and acting like it's not specific to Kamala Harris.
I think there are tons of Americans who would vote for a woman if she conveyed some sort of sense of strength and poise and seemed like she had experience.
I don't know that I'm one of those Americans, but I'm sure they're out there.
Kamala Harris It's inaccessible.
She's not doing media interviews.
She wouldn't put forward any policies.
She actually seems to me fairly inexperienced, especially when we're on the brink of multiple international wars.
You know, I don't- I think that they are covering for themselves when they say like, people are anti-woman and they just don't support her.
No, no, no.
It's just this woman.
elad eliahu
I don't know if this makes me a sexist, but I think there is something to the female president thing that I'm unsettled with.
In the past in my life, I've had male and female bosses, and the dynamic is different with a female, and I've always preferred a male boss.
So, like, there is something to say about how that—people do take that into calculation.
They are questioning whether or not a woman has the right temperament, and we do project some sexism or some of our perceived, you know, female qualities onto them.
hannah claire brimelow
If we're going to have a female presidential candidate, I feel like the main qualification for her should not be that she is female.
That's all they talk about.
She's the first female president.
Kamala Harris, first female vice president.
Tell me something else, right?
If she were actually talented and good, we wouldn't have to reference this all the time.
elad eliahu
If somebody's going to be the first female vice president, it should be Nikki Haley and not Kamala Harris.
tim pool
Female vice president?
elad eliahu
Or female president.
It should be Nikki Haley.
tim pool
Well, I mean, I don't think it really matters to you that much.
elad eliahu
They both want to bomb Iran, so... Well, I think Nikki Haley goes about it a better way.
tim pool
Yeah, and she's more likely to do it, like, you know... Kamala's got to navigate the anti-... Allad went to a lot of Nikki Haley rallies, and I think that's why he's speaking this way.
hannah claire brimelow
But maybe he went to a lot of Nikki Haley rallies because he is a supporter.
elad eliahu
A lot of the people who I spoke to there said they wouldn't support Trump even if Nikki Haley did endorse, which she did end up doing, which is an interesting dynamic.
There is a small, never-Trump contingent of Republicans that exists in our country that I don't think is very relevant.
hannah claire brimelow
I don't think it's enough to change the party, and I think there's the reality that they are not gaining ground, and so that tells us what the temperament of the overall Republican Party is.
elad eliahu
I don't know why these Cheneys thought it was so politically advantageous to take this ground.
Liz Cheney thought she was going to...
hannah claire brimelow
The words of Donald from MSNBC is all mad because Bush won't, like, specifically go out and denounce Donald Trump.
The Bushes, Laura and George W. Bush, have said that they're not going to comment on who they're voting for this cycle.
You know, I'm sure we can all figure out why that is, but the mainstream media is like, how could they do this?
That's actually unethical of them to do this.
Seems crazy to me.
tim pool
Let's jump to this wild story that probably has no reason to be talked about, but we're going to talk about it anyway.
RFK Jr.
may sue Olivia Nuzzi after writer bombarded him with increasingly pornographic pics and videos.
Dude, this story is the weirdest thing ever.
Who did Nuzzi work for?
Was it like the New York Times?
Who did she work for?
I don't want to disparage the New York Times if that's not the case.
But she worked for like the corporate press.
elad eliahu
She's written for many publications.
Yeah, they mentioned- New York Magazine.
tim pool
New York Magazine, there you go.
Not New York Times, New York Magazine.
So, this story's absolutely insane.
Apparently, there was an instance.
So, RFK Jr., he's 70.
This woman, who's what, like 40?
How old is she?
unidentified
31.
tim pool
31?!
Holy crap.
She's blasting him with nudes and stuff.
Apparently, according to one report, RFK Jr.
blocked her number.
And then she emails him being like, there's a hit piece coming out on you.
You need to unblock my number.
So he does.
And then she immediately sends him nudes.
unidentified
What?
morgonn mcmichael
I just want to know what she thinks she's going to get out of this.
tim pool
I don't know.
It's so wild.
Could you imagine if the genders were reversed?
That there was like a dude sending That would be sexual assault.
He could go to jail!
They'd be demanding he be arrested for this.
hannah claire brimelow
It does feel like sexual harassment, right?
morgonn mcmichael
It's 100% harassment.
elad eliahu
Well, she was covering his campaign when he raised her up, I suppose.
unidentified
Is that the technical term?
tim pool
She heard the smooth sound of his voice and she immediately just fell in love.
hannah claire brimelow
She heard that bear story and she was like, this is the guy.
elad eliahu
He is a Kennedy after all.
I mean, he looks good for 71.
tim pool
He's 70.
unidentified
70.
elad eliahu
Yeah.
tim pool
So apparently, let's read a little bit.
He's investigating a possible lawsuit against the sexting New York magazine writer Olivia Nuzzi, who allegedly bombarded him with increasingly pornographic photos and videos while tricking him into unblocking her numbers.
Kennedy has hired a security expert, Gavin DeBecker, to probe the saga because he is allegedly pursuing civil and potentially criminal litigation against a 31-year-old star political reporter, according to Jessica Reid Cross, who knows them both.
This has nothing to do with romance, DeBecker said of the sordid saga.
He was being chased by porn.
Nuzzy was placed on leave last week, allegedly tricked the married politician into receiving her racy messages after he first blocked her number over a flirtatious remark she made just two weeks after her profanum was published in November 23.
A few weeks later, Nuzzy emailed him asking to be unblocked, claiming she had urgent information about a hit piece being prepared against him.
He unblocked her for that conversation, but later that night she sent him a provocative picture, prompting him to block her again.
For the next eight months, Krause claims Kennedy kept the Washington correspondent's number blocked, aside from a handful of times when she reached out from different emails and numbers, insisting they speak for urgent discussions about an imminent hint piece.
She did it more than once!
Once unblocked, she bombarded him with increasingly pornographic photos and videos that he found difficult to resist.
After brief exchanges, he would block her again.
Other friends Krause said she spoke to believed Nuzzy allegedly set him up.
The Post reached out to Nuzzi after the latest claims, but didn't hear back immediately.
Krause, for her part, said she had unexpectedly formed a friendship with Nuzzi late last year over their mutual coverage of Kennedy, but she became suspicious after the reporter started inundating her with personal questions about him.
Olivia would ask me almost intimate questions about him and his relationship with staff, his wife, after each campaign stop, who he was seen talking to, what his mood was like, and whether he showed any signs of flirtation.
There was an undercurrent of fascination that went beyond journalistic intrigue, bordering on obsession.
Her constant desire for updates, coupled with the tone of her inquiries, made it clear she wasn't merely reporting, she was weaving some kind of fantasy.
Meanwhile, a source close to the Kennedy camp had earlier told the Post that Nuzzi had become obsessed with the ex-candidate after interviewing him in his home in California, and pursued him via text to the point where he repeatedly had to block her.
This is absolutely wild.
I mean, geez, RFK Jr.
Casanova over here.
elad eliahu
Some additional layers here just to make it a little bit more saucy.
The guy who Olivia was initially engaged to, Ryan Lizza, is Politico's chief Washington correspondent.
So he's a real D.C.
insider, and he was actually allegedly fired from his last job due to sexual assault allegations.
unidentified
What?
elad eliahu
That's Lizza.
And then if you go to RFK Jr., RFK Jr.
is married to Cheryl Hines, who's an actress.
But prior to that, he was married to a different woman who allegedly murdered herself after finding a diary.
How did you say it like that?
I want to say allegedly all over this stuff.
tim pool
She murdered herself.
elad eliahu
Or killed herself.
Allegedly.
I'm just dropping in allegedly because I don't want any lures coming off of me.
hannah claire brimelow
Well some social media platforms only say killed themselves, right?
I don't know.
elad eliahu
Allegedly because RFK cheated on her a lot of times.
So there's a lot of infidelity among these people and they're all politicos and it all overlaps.
And it's funny because in politico they usually write about new people who are dating each other and Ryan Lizza writes the column where they talk about who's dating each other in DC.
Now, Ryan Lizza isn't allowed to cover the RFK Jr.
campaign, and neither is Olivia.
Olivia was very popular as an upcoming star in many liberal, journalistic communities in Washington, D.C.
She's very well-known and very well-respected.
That's why this is so scandalous.
Was that a nice background to the drama?
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, I thought it was fascinating.
It's very hard to comment on the story because obviously I don't know anything, but repeatedly sending someone photos of yourself after they keep blocking you seems like not the most flattering move.
morgonn mcmichael
I just want to know why.
tim pool
She follows me on Twitter.
hannah claire brimelow
Be careful, Tim!
elad eliahu
Are you going to slide her a DM?
Maybe she could come cover us and write a New Yorker article.
hannah claire brimelow
Elad just wants to meet her in person.
tim pool
Elad's just imagining getting these racy texts.
elad eliahu
I wouldn't block her the first time.
unidentified
He just wants to feel wanted.
elad eliahu
Hey, she writes really good articles, Tim.
Don't you think she'd like to see?
tim pool
That's right.
It's all about the articles.
hannah claire brimelow
This is just a professional interest on a lawyer's behalf?
tim pool
That's crazy.
elad eliahu
She covered the Trump campaign in 2016.
She has a long history of writing about very relevant figures.
Tim, you're very relevant.
tim pool
I ain't going anywhere near this crazy stuff, man.
I don't know why.
I love how it's like RFK Jr. couldn't resist.
Made it difficult for him to resist or whatever.
It's like, okay dude.
He keeps on blocking her like, this time the conversation will be normal.
And then he's like, ah crap.
elad eliahu
Well, it's also insane that she didn't see where this is going because she's a journalist.
This is a presidential candidate.
You're engaged.
He's married.
What are you thinking?
morgonn mcmichael
Did she think it wasn't going to come out and become public knowledge at some point?
How many times are you going to send unsolicited nude pictures to somebody who has you blocked until they unblock you and then you continue to send photos and videos is what's absurd.
unidentified
Like, why?
hannah claire brimelow
Doesn't it seem weird that, like, after the first two times, she barely didn't get the hint and then kept going?
morgonn mcmichael
Well, she's engaged, too.
hannah claire brimelow
Is she still engaged?
morgonn mcmichael
She was.
elad eliahu
Not anymore, to Mr. Ryan Lizza.
morgonn mcmichael
They were engaged.
elad eliahu
They were engaged, and they're a partner.
hannah claire brimelow
Did they stop being engaged because of this, or were they previously separated?
elad eliahu
Yes, they stopped.
morgonn mcmichael
They were engaged while she was sending unsolicited nude photos.
elad eliahu
And he has two other children from a prior marriage.
hannah claire brimelow
Lizza?
elad eliahu
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
elad eliahu
So it's just layers and layers of... This is what it's like in the DC Writers Club, I suppose.
morgonn mcmichael
Yeah, Olivia's 31, Lizza's 50, and RFK's 70.
Like, just why are you sending a 70-year-old man nude photos of yourself?
elad eliahu
If you're a journalist, too, you should know that... Well, they didn't leak, so I guess RFK Jr.
has some integrity, but it's dangerous.
hannah claire brimelow
I'm sure he doesn't want to be tied to this either, right?
bill maher
It's true as well.
hannah claire brimelow
Even if it's unsolicited, it's not great to have someone several decades younger than you sending you pornographic images while you're married.
elad eliahu
These liberal women can't help themselves around these right-wing coded men.
I don't know what to say.
She's not sending, you know... RFK Jr.
really mogged this Liza guy.
Very embarrassing and very sad and unfortunate for this Liza guy.
unidentified
Sad.
elad eliahu
By RFK Jr.
You got your girl stolen by RFK Jr.
tim pool
This is what's going on in D.C.
all the time, dude.
Remember when Madison Cawthorn was like, they're doing creepy stuff, and then they called him a liar?
elad eliahu
It was Coke-fueled orgies, quote-unquote, allegedly.
hannah claire brimelow
And then that video came out from the Senate, and he just tweeted, I told you so.
tim pool
Yeah.
The video of the two guys doing demonic deeds in public.
And did that guy get arrested?
hannah claire brimelow
No.
elad eliahu
Are you talking about the guy in the Senate hearing room?
tim pool
Yeah, and they were doing, uh, you know.
morgonn mcmichael
Yeah, I don't think they got arrested.
elad eliahu
That's outrageous.
We memory hold that hard, I'm glad.
tim pool
For those that don't understand, it was two guys engaged in adult actions in the Senate hearing, one of the Senate hearing rooms.
elad eliahu
Recorded.
tim pool
Filming it.
elad eliahu
Filmed.
tim pool
And apparently they did it more than once.
elad eliahu
Outrageous.
tim pool
That's what the rumor was, that they were doing it a lot and this was the one time they got caught and they were posting it online or whatever.
Why would you post that?
elad eliahu
Because you're a voyeuristic LGBTQ person.
LGBTQV.
tim pool
That's crazy, dude.
But this stuff's going on all over DC, man.
See, the problem is, RFK Jr.
is a stand-up guy.
elad eliahu
He allegedly cheated on his wife many times, too.
tim pool
Yes, but I mean, like, if Nuzzy did this to any other politician, you wouldn't hear about it.
elad eliahu
It's true.
hannah claire brimelow
So do you think we're hearing about it because it is RFK and they're like trying to put him in this position where he's in an appropriate relationship?
tim pool
Well, how did they find out about it?
elad eliahu
I think this came out from him.
morgonn mcmichael
Yeah, I think it came out in House and Habit because she had been following his campaign trail, I think.
Or it was either him or Jessica.
tim pool
Oh, RFK said it?
elad eliahu
I think RFK initially.
Do you want to pull that?
tim pool
It doesn't say this about him suing her.
unidentified
Yeah, it doesn't mention exactly.
elad eliahu
What do you think of the New Yorkers handling this case?
hannah claire brimelow
Removing her?
tim pool
Did they fire her?
elad eliahu
I think they put her on leave.
tim pool
Yeah, she's basically fired then.
elad eliahu
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
The thing on House and Habit is titled, the talent, because they embedded the link in this New York Post article, the talented Mrs. Nuzzie, is that how you say her last name?
elad eliahu
She is talented.
hannah claire brimelow
Exclusive insight into the sexing scandal between RFK Jr.
and Olivia Nuzzie.
But I don't know if she broke the story or just commented.
elad eliahu
She broke the story herself.
hannah claire brimelow
Isn't that crazy?
Or she just commented off forever.
I didn't follow the timeline that closely.
tim pool
Let's stop talking about You brought this up!
I know, because Elad wanted to talk about it.
elad eliahu
No, it is substantial, too, with the Trump campaign, as RFK Jr.
becomes a Trump campaign surrogate.
hannah claire brimelow
Elad just wants to meet Olivia.
unidentified
Olivia, if you're listening, Elad wants- If you want to write about me, he's right here.
tim pool
Let's jump to this story.
This is over the weekend.
Trump says he doesn't see himself running in 2028 if he loses in November.
This is it, ladies and gentlemen.
If you love Donald Trump, he's got to win, because otherwise he's going to go on his yacht, go to the Mediterranean, and he's going to just relax for the rest of his days.
elad eliahu
So I know Trump said this, but I believe it's fake news.
I believe if Trump loses, he will run again.
tim pool
82-year-old Donald Trump.
elad eliahu
Yeah, it'll be about Joe Biden's age.
tim pool
I don't think he will.
elad eliahu
It's his for the taking, however.
tim pool
Trump's a spry 78, but it's exponential decline when you're getting older.
elad eliahu
Do you believe if he wants it, the Republican electorate would pick him?
tim pool
I think by 2028, if Trump loses again, there's no way he's winning the primary in 2028.
elad eliahu
I think there is a cult of personality around Trump, and if he wanted it, he could easily have it, and nobody else could challenge him.
It'll be a similar primary to the way it was this time, if it happens.
It's all up to him.
tim pool
I don't think Trump's ego... It would be contentious, but Trump, I believe, would not win.
elad eliahu
I don't think Trump's... From what I know and understand about Trump, I just don't see it, but time will tell.
tim pool
Do you think that if Nikki Haley was the Republican nominee right now, she'd be leading in the polls dramatically?
elad eliahu
Uh, yeah.
tim pool
What do you guys think?
elad eliahu
Only because she's a more so-called moderate candidate.
And in general, you want a more moderate candidate.
tim pool
What if Ron DeSantis won the primary?
Do you think he'd be leading Kamala?
elad eliahu
Also, yes.
tim pool
I don't know.
elad eliahu
In a general election, yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
I think they would have pulled Biden if it was DeSantis.
tim pool
Ron was stable, but very uncharismatic.
elad eliahu
He's young, though, and energetic, and I think that was... He also was one of the only Republicans in the midterms to overperform in his state, so Florida was one of the rare bright spots for the midterm.
A young moderate.
It's always difficult to get out of the primary.
You know, you're running a different race in the primary than you are in the general election.
hannah claire brimelow
The reality is we have the conversation about age now.
Like, we have polled Americans far and wide about how they feel about age.
And Joe Biden, you know, Trump, I think, is very, seems like a very healthy 78-year-old.
But if he were to run in 2028, he would be older than Biden is now.
And despite the personality and despite the devoutness of a lot of his followers, I think four years from now, that would not be enough to overcome that.
And I also think Trump is a businessman and there's a certain level of like you don't keep just starting failed businesses he would have that would be his fourth time running and I think there is a level of he could have more influence if he stays out of that race and hosts fundraisers and talks to whoever he wants to and and endorses candidates even though right now his endorsements aren't a hundred percent successful I think if he wants to stay in the political field in 2028 he'd have more influence from the outside than on the inside
Largely because we talked about age.
I also think it is smart to, like, I'll acknowledge, you know, there's a chance that maybe he is like, just kidding, I'm doing it.
But I think it is good to tell your followers, if they are that devoted to you, like, it is now or never.
If you want another Trump presidency, you have to go to the polls in November.
elad eliahu
Well, that's why he has to say this regardless.
tim pool
And he needs to say it stronger.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Because this was kind of passive.
He was just simply asked, During an interview, he was asked, you know, will you run again?
He says, no, I don't think.
I think that'll be it.
I don't see it.
I don't see that at all.
He was talking with Sheryl Atkinson.
Hopefully we're going to be successful.
It would be easier if I did it.
Contiguous, he said, launching his 2024 bid after losing 2020 race to Biden.
Asked what positions Elon Musk, Gabbard, and Kennedy would hold for a potential second Trump administration.
He said, RFK would do great on health and on the environment.
Gabbard is a common sense person.
National security, by the way.
And on Musk, he said, Elon is Elon.
Noting the tech giant probably has a couple other things to do and applauding him as a big cost cutter.
He's going to run the Department of Governmental Efficiency.
Doge, as it were.
But I think Trump should be really strong on this messaging.
He should come out and say at his rallies, you know, this is the big one.
If you're a Trump fan, if you want to see the work get done, this is it.
You have to do everything you can.
I actually think that Trump going out and saying, it's the end of this country, is less motivating for his diehard fans than, this is my last chance to serve all of you as your president.
You will not see me again in 2028.
Let's be real, I'll be 82.
But I can serve until then, if you choose me.
That's going to motivate the Trump diehards masterfully.
elad eliahu
I'm seeing some reporting that he also said this in 2020, but... He wouldn't run in 2024?
He wouldn't run in 2024, yeah.
tim pool
I mean, but 82, he ain't running.
morgonn mcmichael
No, there's no way.
I mean, there's already been an age discussion now.
As soon as Joe Biden got off of the ticket and they put in Kamala Harris, all of a sudden age was an issue.
And they're like, oh, well, Donald Trump is way too old.
Kamala Harris is a young woman.
We need to elect her.
And so I don't foresee in 2028 him being able to run and the left not using that to their advantage even.
elad eliahu
Do you think it's for his for the taking though?
Like if he wanted it, he could be it.
tim pool
In 2020, I do not think he could win the primary.
Already in early 2023 and 2022, Ron DeSantis was leading all the prediction markets to
win.
The problem was when Ron DeSantis stepped up to the plate, he just let off a big fart.
You know, his campaign launch on X was, I'm gonna lead the great American comeback.
And everyone's like, Well, that was uninspiring.
What happened?
Here's this guy who led Florida so well.
And when he steps the microphone, he goes, Hi, I'm gonna lead the great American comeback.
hannah claire brimelow
And they're just like, Oh, It made me wonder who was on his campaign staff.
Like, I can understand why you wanted to use X as a platform.
tim pool
Well, they attacked all their allies.
It was insane.
This is a message, too, for all the Trump diehards, because they're like, oh, Tim's talking about this again.
Yeah, because Ron DeSantis had these super annoying surrogates who literally went on X and figuratively just dumped all over the floor for no reason.
All of a sudden, the DeSantis campaign started attacking me.
And I'm like, why is Christina Bouchard attacking me?
I didn't say anything about her.
I'm like, she just decided one day, you know what?
I want Ron to lose.
And then I argued, I think she must be a secret Trump operative because she's sabotaging Ron DeSantis.
He was he actually was in the beginning had a great chance.
He was two to one over Trump.
And then you watch him go down and Trump pick up.
And then you have these diehard DeSantis guys who just literally were vicious and insulting and super annoying.
And it was just like, dude, get away from me.
You guys suck.
I don't think DeSandis could have won based on his performance being so miserable, his inability to lead a team.
You know?
Nikki Haley probably, I think right now, might be doing better than Ron DeSandis was, but I don't think Nikki Haley...
mustard up the support that Trump could generate.
And I think the problem is too many of the MAGA individuals would not vote for Nikki Haley.
Donald Trump has the MAGA base.
These are populist, right-leaning individuals with libertarian overlap.
You can see that in the Mises caucus.
Nikki Haley has neocons.
If she were to win, I think you lose way too many MAGA people saying they refuse to vote, and then Kamala wins.
I think Trump still was the best bet.
I think in 2028, there's no way Donald Trump, if he tried to run, would actually win again.
But that being said, I don't know who the contenders are going to be.
I mean, Vivek Ramaswamy, maybe?
elad eliahu
Probably more of the same.
Probably a Nikki Haley again.
Probably another DeSantis.
tim pool
I mean, Vivek is the smartest guy in politics right now.
And I don't just mean his understanding of the issues.
He understands people very well and he knows how to communicate.
That dude is fantastic.
I'm a big fan.
I'd like to see him do more.
morgonn mcmichael
In 2028, I don't think the MAGA base would be big enough and have the same energy that we have right now to actually win an election in 2028.
That's the only reason why I don't think Trump would be a good pick for the GOP or for the Republican Party to platform in the next election.
I do think it's time for somebody else.
Like, imagine like Vivek being up against Kamala.
Like if Kamala is able to run again, is she able to run again?
Yeah.
In the event, you know, if she wins, she runs again in 2028, I 100% think putting someone like Vivek would be a way better chance of the Republican Party being able to win.
You have someone who's I think at a more equal stature of age, and Vivek could out-debate Kamala any day.
hannah claire brimelow
And the question of what does the MAGA base do for four years?
If we get another four years of Democratic presidency, I mean, they are going to continue to do something, and I think the reality is probably they would become divided on their issues.
Movements have momentum, but it's difficult for them to last multiple decades.
Trump has basically been running for a decade.
morgonn mcmichael
Especially the last four years.
I think right now we are the most unified we've ever seen, especially after the RFK endorsement,
because we finally have those center of the eye.
aisle, the moderates, the libertarians who are finally supporting like, okay, you know
what? I hate Kamala Harris. I will vote for Donald Trump because of RFK, because of what
the Vex said, because of what Elon said. And all of these people are historically voting
Democrat people. And so now that they're coming out and saying that, you know, I truly think
that RFK was a huge unifying moment, especially with this election. And then there's never
going to be another election like this.
hannah claire brimelow
I think Trump knows that too. I think you have to know when to walk away. And I think
it would make sense if he were like, I'm 82 years old, I'm going to walk away now and
serve my country in a different way.
tim pool
I don't understand how Trump keeps doing this.
I'm not kidding, like, I could not imagine being 78 and just being like, I'm gonna keep working the hardest possible thing you could imaginably do.
elad eliahu
While people are trying to kill me.
tim pool
Yeah, dude, I gotta I gotta tell you, dude, I'm at 50 I'm gonna be like, on some island somewhere fishing and just being like, I'm tired, man, you know, I don't Trump is a machine.
morgonn mcmichael
Especially all his kids and his grandkids.
elad eliahu
He does it for us.
tim pool
I'm willing to bet that if Trump got his testosterone levels checked, it's going to be like a thousand, like some ridiculous number.
He's an old man.
It shouldn't be that high, but something's wrong with him.
He should be.
He should be sitting down with a big old belly on a beach as an old man enjoying his retirement.
But instead, he's working as hard as he possibly can for a man his age, especially to try and be the president.
And they tried to kill him twice in two months.
And he's like, my resolve has not faltered.
And it's just like, geez, dude.
morgonn mcmichael
Keeps going.
tim pool
Whatever's in those Trump jeans!
morgonn mcmichael
He sleeps like five, six hours, maybe a night.
Like, he never sleeps.
Constantly on the go.
hannah claire brimelow
Did you know that Sam Elliott was the voice of the Lincoln Prince?
unidentified
Yes.
Oh, okay.
hannah claire brimelow
That's hilarious.
elad eliahu
Who is that?
tim pool
The cowboy guy.
He's in all those movies.
hannah claire brimelow
He's in all those movies, but in my, like, major modern memory of him is when he was sort of like a weird crunchy granola hippie on Parks and Rec.
Do you remember that?
I don't know if you guys have seen that show.
tim pool
No, but we're going to go to Super Chats, my friends, so smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show.
If everybody who watched right now shared this on all their social media platforms, we'd be the biggest live stream in news on the internet.
You heard that.
That's what I said.
But we're going to have that members-only show coming up for you at 10 p.m.
You don't want to miss it.
It'll be over at TimCast.com, so go to TimCast.com, click join us, become a member.
And of course, there's one big story we didn't get into, which we're not going to get into, and that is the abrupt announcement of the Commander Magic Gathering bands, Jeweled Lotus, Monocrypt, Dockside Extortionist, and Nadu.
We are shocked by this.
The community has been rocked.
It is one of the biggest scandals in tabletop gaming.
And it's the apocalypse for many small businesses upon hearing this.
As silly as it may be, I'll give you the actual gist of it.
Collectible cards, banned without warning, with no discussion, nobody saw this coming, cards that were worth $200 to $800 that many small businesses had invested in it as collector shops are now worth zero, overnight.
Shattering some of the holdings of some of these small business and small card shops.
You go to these shops that sell baseball cards, magic cards, Pokemon cards.
They just lost $10,000 to $20,000 in inventory with a finger snap.
So it certainly is, in the gaming space and tabletop space, a major scandal, which we will not talk about, but I'm sure someone might super chat about it if you guys care.
All right.
Ja S says, hey y'all.
unidentified
Hey.
tim pool
Scooby Dragon says, howdy people.
Look at that.
You guys got those first super chats.
Alright.
Pinochet's Helicopter Tour says, in the bounty letter, how do you know he would fail?
That's why I think the assumption is he told the guy, if something happens to me, open this box.
And the guy went, sure.
Because he was hoping that he'd get away with it, right?
Furious George says, Trash House should remake Billy Joel's We Didn't Start the Fire with updated lyrics for the modern day craziness.
That is such an incredibly hard thing to do.
It's incredible.
Billy Joel, fantastic job.
Fall Out Boy did a modern version of it, but my understanding is it was not in chronological order.
unidentified
Really?
tim pool
So people, I don't know, was the original in chronological order?
I guess it was.
And then Fall Out Boy's wasn't or something?
I don't know enough about it.
Vectorman says, one of our cats went missing a week ago.
We think a coyote got him.
Rip Whitey.
Did you see the video of the mountain lion with Oreo, the cat?
No.
The mom's filming the glass door and there's a mountain lion, a cougar, growling.
And their cat's dead behind it and she's like, it's a cougar, it got Oreo.
And the kid's like, what's happening?
She's like, get back, get back.
And I just posted the meme of Danny DeVito and I'm like, so I started blasting.
Uh, the rule in West Virginia, we don't have cougars here, is that you can only shoot them if they're an actual threat to you or property.
If it's killing your pets, then you can defend yourself, but you're not supposed to harm, you know, a lot of animals like that.
elad eliahu
How does this guy know it's a coyote?
Maybe it was one of his neighbors.
hannah claire brimelow
I was gonna say, what state do you live in?
Just let us know.
tim pool
Yeah, perhaps.
morgonn mcmichael
Save Oreo.
tim pool
Jacob Hawley says, my half-brother is in the Navy and they are being sent to the Middle East.
They just served lobster to him and his crew.
That's a bad sign if you know anything about being deployed.
It means they expect combat.
I think they know Trump's winning and want to start a war.
Is that it?
Do they prepare lobster and steak as a kind of wink-wink?
It's a secret sign?
Like, we can't tell you, we know it's coming, but you're getting lobster.
hannah claire brimelow
We need to bring a military veteran who's been deployed to a combat zone and see what they say.
tim pool
I mean, that's what it basically sounds like.
hannah claire brimelow
I feel like it would be pretty, could you even, like, would you sit there and eat it, or would you just be like, oh, so now I know what's gonna happen?
elad eliahu
Many American troops are, in the Mediterranean, in the Middle East, are kind of there as deterrents and are sitting ducks, similar to the way we have American service members in Korea kind of just sit there as sitting ducks, as deterrents.
So it's like a nerve-wracking position for many of our service members to be in, but I hope our Commander-in-Chief instills more confidence in them and Lloyd Austin isn't getting surgery somewhere where he isn't telling us where he is or something.
tim pool
All right, Kalishnikov says, I used to be a fan of TimKast IRL, but lately I've been mystically encapsulated by the TalkTua podcast with their wisdom and intellect on modern and historical socio-political controversies.
It's a meme, and everyone's posting this meme of HawkTua, and they're like, wow, I am enthralled by TalkTua's take on, you know, like, post-World War II East Germany and the Soviet bloc.
And then they make a fake quote where it's talking about the Frankfurt School and how it led up to Weimar Germany and the rise of the Nazis.
The joke is, the most vapid podcast you could probably imagine.
I feel as bad as I can feel for an individual who's a millionaire for saying that she spits on dude's cocks.
You know, like, congratulations, I guess.
And there's this funny meme where it's like, capitalism is the greatest system for distributing wealth in a society.
And then it shows, talk to a girl, and it's like, talk about spitting on dick for five seconds in video, become instant millionaire.
You wage slave work 40 hours a week for 40 years and can't afford retirement.
And it's, yep, but that is the market.
hannah claire brimelow
I was gonna say, she's gonna do fine because if people are making fun of her, she already went through that and she became rich off of it.
morgonn mcmichael
Her podcast is also, I think, number four right now on Spotify charts, which is insane.
elad eliahu
I think she suffers from the least amount of internet brain among all the celebrities or influencers, if you will.
So she's the most normie person online now.
hannah claire brimelow
You watch her show?
elad eliahu
I've watched a little bit of it.
She's just a regular girl.
She doesn't get a lot of jokes on the internet culture stuff.
And it's very refreshing to see somebody who isn't completely enthralled in internet culture.
tim pool
What do they talk about?
elad eliahu
Um, it was weird stuff, like actors and stuff.
It was just like weird, cultural... She's just a pop culture girl.
tim pool
Just a regular old... The reason I think she's big, and it's probably among women, like, uh, was it Call Her Daddy or whatever?
Mm-hmm.
morgonn mcmichael
Oh, super.
tim pool
Like, yeah, women podcasts are going to be talking about dudes and dating and, like, stuff like that.
elad eliahu
She's surprisingly not super smutty.
Like, on the internet, it's a race to the bottom very quickly, but she hasn't leaned into, like, sexual content or...
Or erasing, you know, like any of the things in the interview.
tim pool
I feel, like I was saying, I feel kind of bad because like, of course she has to roll with it.
She's a meme. And it's kind of funny because remember Overly Attached to Girlfriend?
elad eliahu
So that meme of her with the big eyes?
tim pool
Yeah, she made, it was this woman who made a video singing like a Justin Bieber song or something like that.
It was really creepy.
I don't remember exactly what it was.
And it became a meme about like being stalked by Olivia Nuzzi.
Haha, I'm kidding.
But basically.
And she made a career out of it.
She made a bunch of money off of it for as long as she did.
For a while, people who became memes were just like, I'm being made fun of all the time, no matter where I go.
And then some people figured out like, you can make money off this being that character.
And so with Hawktua, we're in the era now when you get memed, you instantly become rich and you build a business off it right away.
So I feel kind of bad for her because could you imagine just like hanging out with your bros, you make one disgusting smut joke and then it defines who you are everywhere and they come to you and they say, Elad, we love how you made that big dick joke and that's all you're ever going to be, but you're going to have a million dollars.
Yes or no?
And you're like, Yes, I guess.
elad eliahu
And let's take a selfie together and say it.
Say the word.
tim pool
She talked about how, like, she went to her dad and she had to tell him what happened because she's famous now.
And she just saw the look in his face.
unidentified
And it's like, yeah, that probably sucks.
tim pool
But she's a millionaire.
So, you know, you get what you pay for.
hannah claire brimelow
That also might be some of the motivation, like you're saying, her content's not... She didn't explicitly go into, like, a smutty relationship.
morgonn mcmichael
She could have easily been, like, OnlyFans.
hannah claire brimelow
Right.
elad eliahu
Yeah, are you kidding?
hannah claire brimelow
Her whole thing was... The only thing I remember after was, like, her making a video about donating supplies to an animal shelter, and then maybe she's working really hard to not touch the relationship or anything tangentially related to her viral moment on her podcast.
unidentified
Like, maybe having a dad who is disappointed in her will save her.
morgonn mcmichael
She's trying to pivot to be the regular Southern girl who I think she was working at like some sort of plant, like very low level job and had no money growing up, like just very middle American Southern family.
So she's trying to pivot now and expose that.
It says, like, it's just a cozy talk show featuring different conversations with celebrity guests, anecdotes, relationship advice, sports updates, and Southern hospitality.
And so I think it's good for her that she went this route, because being a young woman and rising to fame that quickly, I think she very easily could have been taken advantage by the Hollywood industry.
tim pool
Would you go on the talk to a podcast?
morgonn mcmichael
I don't think I would.
I don't know, maybe, just for fun?
unidentified
Why not?
hannah claire brimelow
Support women?
morgonn mcmichael
Yeah, I mean, why not?
elad eliahu
It's like she's a regular chick.
When do you think Turning Point's going to offer her an ambassadorship?
No, hey, you never know.
tim pool
All right, we got it.
We actually, we got it.
We got a very, very important super chat here.
Dexandice LLC says Monocrypt are going to be joining the ranks of the Power Nine and make it the Power Ten.
Get those crypts while you can, guys.
They're going to take a hit for a while, but they'll climb back up.
So this is, of course, a reference to... I think this is actually some of the biggest news in tabletop gaming.
It's seriously a major scandal.
I'll give you the quick version.
Four cards, one of which... So it's a Magic Gathering, for those that aren't familiar, it's a strategy game.
The first and most popular card game in the world.
And we're talking about the most popular format for play.
So this is professional level play.
This is like a major league sport, essentially.
And cards are... some cards are never printed again.
So they're rare and hard to come by.
And they have to be real cards from the company to be used in sanctioned events.
Some of these cards are extremely valuable.
Of course, the Black Lotus can go up to $3,000,000.
One of the original cards ever made.
It's the rarest.
You can't use it in any game.
It is banned.
But it's, I think, a grade 10, which are extremely hard to find.
Because even out of the pack, they could be 9.5.
Could be $3,000,000.
You could buy lower grade ones for like $160,000.
So these cards are valuable.
It's like if it was a baseball card.
So, uh, there are certain cards that are used in every single deck by everybody who can afford them, because they can range from $200 to $800.
By banning them without any notice, you have now set the value to zero, completely undercutting collectors and small businesses.
But here's the big thing.
A few days before the announcement came that they were eliminating these high-value cards, there were massive spikes in the sale of these cards from certain shops, indicating that people knew this unorthodox move was coming, and that the industry was going to be nuking high-value products, allowing people to drive the price up for the short term, sell them all off to the people who wanted them, and then Now that they've all sold off, and many of these insiders dumped their inventories, they make the ban, and they've now passed the losses onto run-of-the-mill regular people and small businesses.
So, yeah, people is mad.
But there is some speculation that they'll have to reverse this because of how shocking and offensive it is in the move.
Yeah.
All right, let's go.
Ry Gecki says you guys should check out the game Victoria 3, which is a politics and economy game that takes place from 1836 to 1936.
And you can really see the impacts of laws and economy on people's stances of living.
Very cool.
Michael Beacon says the issue with the bounty is that it could be it could it could be to overwhelm security with stupid and desperate attempts.
So the real one gets through.
unidentified
Man, I got fall allergies.
tim pool
They're bad.
Wow, what does that mean?
The whole office was laid off?
I think we're in a recession.
I think they're lying.
You know, the jobs report was revised down by almost a million.
and looking at our ad rates and CPMs, in an election year, they should be super high
because two things happen.
Political campaigns dump a massive influx of cash into the ad market.
So all of a sudden you should be selling all your inventory.
So if you have a show and you have 10 ad slots, Because politicians are trying to buy, right?
So competition becomes fierce.
But competition also drives up the price.
More money in the market, more competition means higher prices, and more money to pay those higher prices.
Everybody should be seeing higher ad rates.
We're not.
Which is indicative of one potentiality.
When ad rates plummet, small businesses are failing.
They're not advertising anymore.
However, it could be a combination of the economy has taken a downturn, politics are infusing, so we're remaining stable.
So we'll see.
We'll see.
All right, let's go.
Craig Sneeds says Ron DeSantis and the Florida State AG forced the FBI and DOJ to release the letter so they can take control of the case and bury any other information.
This will now become a black hole just like Butler PA.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, that's a cynical take.
Maybe not wrong, but cynical.
tim pool
All right, Hyena says, Hey, mate, saw you doing the cover of Overkill the other day.
Epic.
As an Australian, I feel honored.
Keep up the great work.
Coffee is great, by the way.
Mr. Boca's Pumpkin Spice was my favorite.
Men at Work is one of the greatest bands of all time.
Everyone agrees.
I am telling you this.
And Overkill is also one of the greatest songs.
And I did play part of it.
And I can't play the solo.
I can only play part of it.
I could just learn how to play it.
I don't know.
I just never did.
But, you know, great song.
I played it on Sunday on the morning show.
I did a couple of songs as we're promoting the new song release, Coming Home, which will be on Friday.
Son of Liberty says people cannot afford kids.
Women have to work to pick up bills nowadays, in turn taking womanhood away from them forcibly.
If a woman has to work, they can't be an effective mother.
I wonder if this is the intentional play.
Only men who are able to make lots of money can be fathers.
Women who are forced to work like they're creating an artificial selection almost.
Make women have to work and only the best men will choose the best women and the best men will make tons of money and then they'll have kids and the impoverished won't have kids and then that's how you...
elad eliahu
You know, Senator Elizabeth Warren wrote a very interesting book on this called The Two Income Trap, now that she doesn't, but she doesn't align with much of what she writes in that book, just about this exactly, how women entering the workforce, complicated relationships and the labor force demands.
hannah claire brimelow
And the only issue with the theory to me is that data indicates that People with lower socioeconomic status, lower education, lower income, whatever, tend to have more children than well-educated.
So I don't think having degrees necessarily means that you're actually smart or credentialed or whatever.
But in this case, people who have the least amount of financial resources are still having children at a higher rate than people who have more financial resources.
morgonn mcmichael
Yet that's where the abortion clinics target.
They target lower socioeconomic background people within America, and they would rather advertise to women, oh, you actually can't afford children, which I think is interesting.
tim pool
Dr. Fauci's Prison Butt says, you need to have Rudyard Lynch of Waterfall History Channel on.
He's a brilliant Gen Z historian.
His views on the new Civil War are illuminating.
Agreed!
I think we've reached out to him before.
We'll definitely reach out to have him on.
I think we might be having him on soon.
I don't know.
We've been talking about having him on for a while.
Let me just check the old list here.
Because I think we were talking about having him come on at some time soon.
So who do we got coming on?
We got Avi Yemeni coming on soon.
He's great.
We love him.
He'll be on.
He'll be on soon.
Dallas Sania will be coming.
He works with Daily Wire.
He makes movies.
Very fun.
Dinesh D'Souza will be here tomorrow.
That'll be fun.
We're big fans.
We like that guy.
But no, Rudyard.
We'll get him on the list.
We'll get him on the list.
elad eliahu
What if Altaist is great?
I watch a lot of his videos.
tim pool
Good videos.
elad eliahu
I've actually seen him reference you in his videos before.
unidentified
Has he?
elad eliahu
Yeah, in a positive way about like, the way media is transforming.
So it'd be interesting and a fun time to have him on.
Great guest, I'm sure.
tim pool
Yeah.
OMG Puppy says walk softly and carry a big stick.
As Teddy Roosevelt said, we've done the opposite.
Meddling everywhere in the world and our new weapon systems are expensive junk.
Yikes.
That's terrifying.
BasedJews says, have you guys been in touch with Carrie Lake at all?
She's been MIA this election season.
What do you mean?
She's running for the Senate in Arizona.
morgonn mcmichael
Been on the campaign trail.
tim pool
Yeah.
elad eliahu
Does she get to run again if she doesn't win?
Are we letting her just keep running again?
tim pool
But she's not that old.
elad eliahu
Yeah, I guess so.
But this would be, what, her third?
tim pool
Yeah, but she's running.
She ran for governor.
And some weird stuff happened.
The ballots were printed wrong and stopped working.
And they said, nothing to see here.
morgonn mcmichael
Maricopa County.
tim pool
Yep.
elad eliahu
Well, there's a lot of intra-Republican beefing in Arizona.
tim pool
I don't know, Morgan, if you can tell us more about that.
Remember when they came there, she released the audio where they were like, you need to quit and we're going to give you money or whatever?
elad eliahu
There was a lot of stuff.
And then with also Blake Masters and like another guy running there.
And I think Trump did a co-endorsement of two people in a Republican primary there, which was outrageous.
Very Trumpian.
Good ol' Arizona.
tim pool
Jason Hutchinson says, Sam Elliott is dead to me.
Dude, it's kind of wild how these people are willing to sacrifice their careers for this stuff.
I think the interesting thing about Taylor Swift and Hayley Williams is that their fan base is like 30.
A lot of people think Taylor Swift's fan base is little girls.
morgonn mcmichael
They're millennials.
tim pool
Yeah, they're millennials.
elad eliahu
Grown woman.
tim pool
Millennials grew up with these artists.
And so when they come out and they're like, oh, hey, but well, what I'll say about this is Taylor Swift said, I like Kamala for these reasons.
OK, it's like it's a it's an it's an optimistic, it's a positive message.
Hayley Williams came out and insulted and lied about Donald Trump with a script.
With a script.
If she just came out and said, I'm voting for Kamala, we'd all say, yeah, we get it.
You're a celebrity.
But coming out and lying about Donald Trump.
And it was crazy.
It was like, it was it was a hoax.
She's pushing this Project 2025 hoax.
It's insulting to people who are fans of Paramore who are not liberals.
morgonn mcmichael
I think she was blackmailed or she was being paid a ridiculous amount of money.
There's something that does not add up of her doing that, to me, doesn't make sense.
tim pool
Well, it's quote-unquote blackmail.
It's their last several, none of their latest singles have charted.
Well, they've done minimal charts, unlike the U.S.
rock charts, but not Hot 100 anymore.
And none of them are hitting platinum or gold.
I think the latest album they released didn't get certified even gold.
And that's like, you're out, okay?
Because gold is 500,000 sales.
I think it's just an issue of they go to her and they say, if you want to stay here and play these shows, you've got to be on board with us.
morgonn mcmichael
Which is so interesting because she just opened for the Aeros tour with Taylor Swift.
tim pool
Yes, but do you know what that looks like?
morgonn mcmichael
Pretty bad since she's not charting.
tim pool
The stadiums are empty and people are piling in.
They're checking in to see Taylor.
And when you look at the videos of the heiress tour with Paramore opening, the stands are mostly empty.
morgonn mcmichael
Sometimes... I was at one of the shows and you're correct.
tim pool
It was not completely full during her... Well, it's because a lot of them were... They're the opening act.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So you're like, do we want to see the opening act?
I might sit down.
Maybe not.
They're not as big of fans.
Taylor Swift is a megastar.
I mean, congratulations.
Good for them to do it.
I think they probably go to these artists and they say, we will never book you again.
The first thing they say is, hey, would you be interested in doing a statement in support of Kamala?
And most of them probably just go, sure, whatever.
That's it.
Some of them probably go, I don't know.
I don't want to get involved in politics.
It could be divisive.
Then they'll say, well, look, we really want to book you for this big show, but if you're not going to be on board with us, we're all doing it.
Now there's pressure.
And if you go, look, I'm not going to endorse it.
You don't got to book me.
Then they start applying more pressure and be like, why are you supporting Trump?
Is that what you're trying to say?
Because maybe I should make a phone call here and maybe we shouldn't be working with you.
And then if you really push them, then they're going to be like, you're done in this industry.
So it's quote unquote, blackmail.
Yep.
Look at what they did with Matt Walsh, Am I Racist?
None of the big entertainment publications would review it.
They ignored it.
Then he's number three in the box office and they're like, ugh, we gotta write about it.
Fine.
And they still, I think, they still haven't released any, most reviews, most corporate outlets.
They're gonna keep ignoring it.
Yeah, because Matt Walsh is not in line with their machine.
elad eliahu
Because it's not a movie, it's alt-right propaganda is what they're thinking.
We should talk about it because that would be endorsing... Platforming the propaganda and hate that leads to the death of trans people is what they'd... something, you know.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Beau Barnett says hope and change.
She is not only stealing Trump messaging but going back to Obama stuff.
She has an empty pantsuit.
hannah claire brimelow
I really do feel like this campaign, maybe because they had to put it together so last minute, but it is a repeat of campaigns we've seen before with Democrats, which is a pick us because we're not Trump and he's so bad.
And also with the Harris-Wall specific pairing, they're trying to be like Obama-Biden 2.0.
Because Obama was like this cool suave younger guy and, you know, Biden was sort of his like doting BFF white guy friend who would like, you know, there's all kinds of memes about this.
And I think that's why, what they think they can pull off.
Unfortunately, neither one of the two people involved have the personalities to do this.
morgonn mcmichael
No, but they're trying to make Kamala Harris be the charismatic one like Obama and appeal.
hannah claire brimelow
Yes, that's why she's doing so many interviews.
Clearly full of charisma.
tim pool
We've got two messages.
First, a green clover says six tour vet steak and lobster is 100% a prelude to combat.
Brian Revis says nah, we got lobster and steak in the Navy at the end of long deployments.
Usually it's not that special.
But what about before a deployment?
That's interesting.
Russ of the Frozen North says, I own a small card shop in Juneau, Alaska.
I luckily just sold my last monocrypt and jeweled lotuses two weeks ago.
Well, congratulations.
You just saved yourself a thousand bucks.
Or more, depending on which lotuses and which monocrypts they were.
Here's another big thing about it.
Is that these two cards specifically, they have numerous different reprints and promos.
It was, like, these are cards that exist in all of the decks.
They're expensive, but all the decks basically have them.
Except for, like, if you're playing a lower cost format.
So, it's just kind of wild.
I don't know how to describe it.
Like, just how wild it is to have just announced something so dramatic overnight without notice and the insider trading allegations.
Major scandal.
All right, we'll grab some more Super Chats.
What do we have here?
What do we have here?
unidentified
Uh, what's this?
tim pool
Cultural Exile says, looks like Trump bought Ryan Routh old roofing web domain.
It links to his campaign now.
There's no saying Trump did that.
Anyone could have done that.
All right.
Colonel Sanders says, why do we support Israel when they do literally nothing for the U.S.
save for blowing up our warships?
elad eliahu
USS Liberty.
You know, so I'll leave it at that.
tim pool
All right.
What do we have?
Dominator says, I'm surprised I haven't heard anything from y'all about the IAM751 strike in the Pacific Northwest.
Uh, what is that one?
I know the East Coast dock strike thing is gonna be huge, and that's coming up real soon.
So, shipping is gonna stop, prices are gonna skyrocket right before the election.
Every union should go on strike right before the election, just to drive up prices so that Trump wins.
I'm kidding, by the way, that's a Bill Maher statement.
But the prices going up right before an election is very bad for Kamala Harris.
Although she's trying to play it off like she's not the incumbent.
unidentified
We can't have four more years of this, says Tim Walz.
tim pool
But people are dumb.
They don't get it, you know?
Amazing Blue Guy says, Military Vet here.
Fridays were always surf and turf.
But if we were on a base, getting lobster and steak did usually mean something was coming.
Yikes.
Yep.
I mean, steak.
They want to make sure you got your protein and your iron, so you're good to go.
You know?
Lobster is delicious, though.
It's funny, because lobster used to be considered garbage food.
Because it was so abundant that there was actually, there's this old post on the internet where like Longshoremen in Maine or whatever had union contracts that said you can't serve lobster more than twice a week.
I mean, there's lobster like crazy up in Maine, and it is good stuff.
You know, it's wild how good it is.
I was in Rhode Island, and I got a lobster, and they bring it to you in a bowl with the shell still on, and you pull it off, and then the lobster meat is just there.
Tastes great.
Water bugs.
Eating insects, but you will eat the bugs.
Only if they were in the water.
Alright, Ginger Prime says, I'd vote for Tulsi Gabbard over Kamala any day.
Well, yeah, of course.
unidentified
Who wouldn't?
hannah claire brimelow
I think this is the lie.
They're like, it's the woman thing.
They're bigoted against women.
Like, you know, again, some of us might be, but I think there are tons of Americans who'd vote for women.
You just have to face the reality that you picked the worst one.
You did not have to.
elad eliahu
The right-wing rehabilitation of Tulsi Gabbard is kind of amazing, in my opinion.
The fact that she was able to come out with all these anti-gun, these gun-grabbing statements in the past, and now we're just kind of willing to overlook it, and she's kind of like the anti-government, anti-tyrannical queen all of a sudden.
I don't know.
She's promoted on Fox News and all the right-wing media space.
I don't know how she did that.
So I guess that isolationist angle really worked well for her.
People are willing to overlook so much when Democrats are willing to walk away or be born again in this sort of way.
hannah claire brimelow
Well look, the Democrats are celebrating Dick Cheney as a winning endorsement.
Things are weird sometimes.
tim pool
Dominator says 33,000 people are on strike from Boeing.
Is that true?
hannah claire brimelow
Boeing has a huge strike right now.
tim pool
Wow, this is getting crazy, ladies and gentlemen.
All right.
Charlie Bentley says lobster before deployment sounds like a kid with cancer getting an unexpected visit from John Cena.
Are they giving you the lobster and steak as like a, you know what's coming?
You know, that's what it sounds like.
elad eliahu
It sounds like some soldiers are getting a lot more lobster and steak than others in general.
hannah claire brimelow
It sounds like it depends on the size.
The Navy is like the fishermen in Maine.
They're like, we get this all the time.
tim pool
Alright everybody, we're going to go to that members-only show, so head over to TimCast.com, click join us, become a member, join the Discord, watch the Uncensored show.
It'll be on the front page in a couple of minutes.
You don't want to miss it.
It's not very family-friendly.
But it's always fun, and you as members get to call in to join the show and talk to us and our guests and be a part of this, so we really do appreciate your support.
You can follow me on X at TimCast.
Make sure you subscribe to this channel once again.
Morgan, do you want to shout anything out?
morgonn mcmichael
Yeah, shout out Turning Point USA and Turning Point Action.
Let's get people registered to vote and get out and vote this November because we need to win this election.
And if you guys want to follow me, if you can spell my name, you can find me, M-O-R-G-O-N-N, and it's just Morgan.
elad eliahu
A lot of Yahoo!
Thank you guys for tuning in.
You guys can find me on platforms under that name.
Hannah Clare?
hannah claire brimelow
You're barely informed with a lot!
I'm Hannah Clare Brimlow.
I'm a writer for scnr.com at Scanner News.
Check out all their work.
Chris Carr published theirs.
So does Chris Burtman.
So does Adrian Norman.
A lot of really cool people.
If you want to follow me, I'm on Instagram at hannahclare.b and I'm on Twitter at hannahclareb.
Thanks for everything you do.
Have a good night.
tim pool
So one last question from Default Anonymous asking, how much did I lose on my Magic card investment?
You'll notice behind me I have no Jeweled Lotuses or Monocrypts in my collection.
I have an Ancestral Recall, Dual Lands, and an Alpha Lightning Bolt.
But most of my decks do have those cards because they were staples.
I'd estimate my overall loss is at around $2,000.
That is not very much in the grand scheme of my Magic the Gathering collection, to be completely honest.
Alright everybody, we're going to see you all over at TimCast.com in about a minute.
Export Selection