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unidentified
Apparently the only news that exists is that the debate was rigged.
tim pool
Some Republicans want an investigation as to whether or not there was collusion between ABC News and the Harris campaign.
I kind of feel like there probably was.
They're denying it.
ABC News has come out and said, no, no, we did not.
We did not cooperate or coordinated advance in any way.
But I got to be honest, my friends, that's not the headline story of the day.
The headline story of the day is that Donald Trump is friends with Laura Loomer.
Everybody just laughs like, we're in the middle of the intro, people!
But it's funny because I feel like, and I think we'll get into it for sure, they're making Laura Loomer the headline story because they're trying to spin this as a negative for Trump based on who Laura is despite her being a private citizen who doesn't work for the campaign or anything like that.
But now you've got all of these stories all over the internet about Laura Loomer and who she is and she's become more and more famous.
I said it before and I'll say it again.
I don't know if there is anyone who is better at PR than Laura Loomeris.
I think she knows exactly what she's doing.
You can look at her career, how she chained herself to the Twitter HQ, made herself a top worldwide trend.
Now she's headline news.
I think she knows what she's doing.
So we will talk about that.
It's not our lead story, but we'll talk about that.
Nate Silver's predictions for where things are going.
It's funny, he wrote an article saying Trump might lose.
He says Trump's to lose and he might do it.
And then you look at his forecast and Trump has improved in his projections.
So, sure.
We'll talk about that.
Plus, Am I Racist, the Daily Wire film, is being booted from theaters because, you know, people are getting triggered.
It's just so insane.
We'll talk about all that, my friends.
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Mike Crisby.
mike crispi
Hey Tim, good to see you.
Mike Crispy, I'm the chair of the America First Republicans in New Jersey, President Trump's hype man at his famous Wildwood Rally with over 100 people, on the board of the Italian American Civil Rights League fighting to keep those Columbus statues up, and I got a show podcast, Mike Crispy Unafraid.
Thanks for having me, Tim.
alex stein
Of course, Alex is here.
I'm back.
We're ready for round two.
Hey, why is Columbus so controversial?
Because he was racist?
mike crispi
Because people don't like Italian-Americans.
alex stein
Is that why?
mike crispi
Because there's so much Italian-American racism.
alex stein
That's the best episode of The Sopranos, where they're trying to tear down the statues and they go kick everybody's butt.
I love that.
tim pool
That's what we're doing.
libby emmons
They hate Italians, but they keep eating all the pizza.
mike crispi
They appropriate our culture.
We're not going to Stanford anymore.
unidentified
Completely.
hannah claire brimelow
Libby's another northeastern Italian who can attest to this.
tim pool
I have to wonder, though.
I mean, I guess Italian derivative foods are the most popular foods in the country, I guess.
That's because they're the best foods.
Pizza.
Yeah.
mike crispi
And they want to take our holiday, Columbus Day.
You don't see anybody coming for Martin Luther King Day, but they want to take our day, Columbus Day, where only Donald Trump says he will save Columbus Day.
Tim Walz wants to cancel Columbus Day.
Unbelievable.
tim pool
Libby's hanging out.
libby emmons
I'm Libby Emmons.
I'm hanging out.
I'm here with, uh, what do I do?
I'm with the Post Millennial.
That's right.
unidentified
I haven't heard of it.
libby emmons
I'm super glad that it's Friday and I'm tired of working this week.
Hope you guys are good.
hannah claire brimelow
I'm glad you're all here, especially given that we have a lot of Italian representation in the room.
That's very important in culture.
I'm Hannah-Claire Brimelow.
I'm a writer for scnr.com at Scanner News.
Check out all of our work at TimCastNews on the internet.
Thanks to Chris DeGaulle who had me on his morning show this morning.
That was really cool.
Let's get started.
tim pool
Oh, I just want to give a shout out to Tim Heidecker in the chat.
What up, Tim?
alex stein
Tim Heidecker's in the chat?
tim pool
Yeah, he just shouted us out.
alex stein
You like Tim Heidecker?
tim pool
You don't like him?
alex stein
Are you kidding?
I'm a Sam Hyde fan.
tim pool
Oh, okay.
alex stein
Tim Heidecker got Sam Hyde fired.
Tim Heidecker, if you're watching this, you're a bitch, dude.
You suck.
I mean that.
I'm dead serious.
Sam Hyde's funnier than you.
He's better than you.
You should not have got him fired.
You're mad that his fans don't like you, Tim Heidecker.
tim pool
No, no.
alex stein
You suck!
Tim might like you, but I'm Sam Hyde all the way.
tim pool
Tim had tweeted out several years ago he was a big fan of the show and everything.
I know he says he's not anymore, but I wonder if that's just because he got scared because he was going to get cancelled or something.
But my understanding is he was a big fan.
Anyway, let's talk about the news.
Here you go, the Daily Mail!
ABC denies extraordinary allegation about collusion between Kamala Harris and debate moderators after fury from MAGA.
ABC is denying Vice President Kamala Harris had... Oh, I said Kamala.
Kamala Harris had debate questions in advance.
MAGA is angry that moderators fact-checked ex-president Donald Trump.
ABC News said, Absolutely not!
Harris was not given any questions before the debate.
Well, we have this from The Examiner.
Harris campaign and ABC News targeted GOP Senator's inquiry into debate.
I kind of feel like a lot of this is cope.
I mean, people are claiming Kamala had headphones in, you know, or earrings or whatever, and I'm just like, guys.
libby emmons
Looks like they wore a pair of Tiffany earrings, which go with her, what, like $16,000 Tiffany necklace?
hannah claire brimelow
She was wearing almost $20,000 in jewelry.
Like, she is unrelatable, but not because she has a secret earring, you know what I mean?
I kind of agree with you.
I think there's a little, I mean, the earring, like being a microphone or whatever, like a secret listening device, that felt like hope to me.
The thing is, the DNC has a bad track record.
Let's all remember where Donna Brazile is now and the Hillary Clinton campaign.
And so I understand why, you know, when it seemed like there was an obvious bias against Trump, everyone is prepared to say you guys don't play PR because they have a history.
mike crispi
Doesn't Donna Brazile work for ABC right now in a capacity?
hannah claire brimelow
Is it ABC or a different news?
libby emmons
She's on TV anyway.
mike crispi
She's at ABC.
tim pool
I'm pretty sure that was a big talking point.
mike crispi
Yeah, I don't know.
And the moderator was her sorority sister and it's like, oh, well, they didn't really know each other.
But it's like, come on, you know, if you're a frat bro or sorority girl from college, those are your friends for life, right?
So obviously nobody's buying the fact that, you know, she wasn't helped big time.
Even though, Libby, you said at the head of the Commission on Presidential Debates, I think Trump agreed to it because he couldn't get them to agree to anything else.
libby emmons
And also the head of ABC is Kamala Harris's best friend who set up her and Dougie Emhoff
a couple years, whenever that was, a couple years ago, to their marriage 10 years ago.
tim pool
Why did Trump agree to it then?
libby emmons
I think Trump agreed to it because he couldn't get them to agree to anything else.
And I also don't think that he thought it would go quite so badly as it did.
And I don't think he thought that they would be this biased, perhaps, which was a mistake,
obviously.
But he agreed to the first debate, which was what, CNN.
He agreed to a Fox debate that Kamala, or as Tucker Carlson said, Kamala Harris, didn't
tim pool
tell him.
libby emmons
Carmilla.
He just keeps saying it different every time.
Yeah, it's amusing.
But yeah, Carmilla Harris didn't show up for the Fox debate.
So Trump had a town hall.
And this was something that was previously agreed to.
I think also, if he had not gone along with it, after he'd already agreed to the terms with Joe Biden, he would have potentially looked pretty weak, just as weak as she looked, not showing up for Fox, but that wasn't covered by legacy media.
tim pool
Trump's now saying he might do another debate if he feels like it.
He's opened the door, they say.
alex stein
Well, just the fact that they built her her own separate, smaller podium... I mean, come on.
tim pool
You don't think they gave her the... Well, because Trump is like, you can't use a stool.
So then they were like, but he didn't say no smaller podiums.
alex stein
That was so ridiculous.
libby emmons
And they also had different camera angles for her than for him.
That's pretty clear.
They had sort of different lighting.
mike crispi
Yeah.
libby emmons
They set him up to look like a monster on purpose.
mike crispi
He was blue.
libby emmons
Yeah, and he blended in with the background.
mike crispi
On the split screen, Trump looked totally different than he did on the full screen.
Did you notice that?
The shadows on the split screen, the camera that was being used made him look darker.
And then in full screen, he looked normal.
You know what?
libby emmons
They set her up to be on the right.
tim pool
You know what I would have done?
unidentified
What?
tim pool
I would have just left.
alex stein
Just walk off. In the middle of it, but then you rage quit.
No, but...
tim pool
No, no. I wouldn't rage quit. I would just be like...
I'd be like, I can see how this is going, gentlemen. I appreciate it.
I would humbly request fair and honest fact checks.
After she did...
The moment Kamala did the very fine people hoax, the bloodbath hoax...
Like, what was it?
mike crispi
A gun hoax.
I mean, and David Muir asked her the question about guns.
David Muir asked her that question, and she said, I back it.
tim pool
When she put, she fired off three lies all at once, and it was like, very fine people, bloodbath or whatever.
I would have just been, I would have said, David, did you want to fact check that?
And then if he didn't, I'd say, okay, and I'd just walk out.
hannah claire brimelow
I think the problem is Trump knows he can't trust the media and they would have immediately been like, Trump gets so flustered during debate, he runs away.
I mean, remember when he got shot in the head and they were like, Trump ducks after loud noise.
I mean.
tim pool
That just proves the point.
The idea that Trump is going to stand there and be like, this will improve for me.
If it were me, I'd have just walked off.
You know why?
They'd panic.
It would be hugely embarrassing for ABC News to have dead air for an hour, and they'd be like, what do we do?
Their sponsors would lose it!
The amount of money it probably costs for that 10 p.m., I think it was what, 10 p.m.
commercial slot?
Massive.
They're going to the sponsor, we're gonna have millions of views, do you want the slot or not?
And they're like, yes, Trump walks out, those advertisements are dead.
And then what you do is, if Trump walks off, and they say, ladies and gentlemen, the former president Donald Trump has just left the stage, They say, what are you doing?
Say, I'm going to leave right now and your advertisers are going to be in revolt.
Or, you can fact check Kamala Harris.
alex stein
Yeah, I mean, if you look at politics, there's a saying that politics are just the entertainment division of the military-industrial complex.
And there was not enough entertainment.
I feel like Trump—and yeah, he could have brought up Willie Brown, that she was giving him BJs and all this, and she could have brought Stormy Daniels and this and that.
There's both shots that they could have taken of each other.
But they should have made it more entertaining.
That's what I think we're missing.
Trump should have pandered a little more and said—it's like when he said, you'd be in jail.
We needed that moment.
And we didn't have it.
tim pool
No, that's not true.
Yes, we did.
mike crispi
Eating the cats.
unidentified
I mean, that's been the story.
hannah claire brimelow
I'm speaking now.
tim pool
That was the best one.
And quiet, please.
And we had, why don't you go wake up Joe Biden?
He's probably sleeping right now.
unidentified
4 p.m.
mike crispi
Yeah, that's a good line.
hannah claire brimelow
And Kamala didn't jump in to defend Joe.
That was one of the best parts.
Trump just completely ridiculed Joe Biden over and over again and she was just like, putting her hand up like she didn't know what to do with herself.
libby emmons
But that's because she doesn't care about Joe Biden now.
He was a useful idiot.
He ushered her into the White House when she coveted it so hard.
and couldn't get there on her own in 2020, and she managed to sneak her way in anyway on the DEI ticket.
And now she doesn't care what happens to him because she's a big fat bully and she's mean
and she has nothing to say about policy or plans and her whole vibe is that of a mean girl who just
tim pool
wants to push you into lockers. I'm just gonna from now on just say that Biden endorsed Trump.
mike crispi
He did.
alex stein
In a way he did.
tim pool
In a way.
alex stein
I mean, put it on the hat.
Well, do you like the conspiracy that Biden is playing 5D chess and trying to troll Kamala by putting... Biden can't play 1D chess.
Yeah, well...
libby emmons
I bet he can't even play checkers, you guys.
And that's like an old folks home standard.
hannah claire brimelow
That makes it even better that he would just be like, I'm going to wear the hat now.
I'm mad at him.
I mean, he can't hide anything.
He's just going to be mad openly at his vice president as we run through the rest of his
term.
Meanwhile, Trump is over here laughing.
I mean, I think the dynamic between Kamala Harris and Joe Biden is so funny.
I mean, they basically threw him a funeral on the first day of the DNC and then were like, go to California and don't come back.
libby emmons
Get the hell out of here.
You old man.
We don't want you.
You smell bad.
hannah claire brimelow
He went to one campaign rally with her.
libby emmons
You've got weird mouth sounds.
hannah claire brimelow
And she spoke after him.
libby emmons
Yes.
hannah claire brimelow
They made him speak first.
libby emmons
He's the sitting president.
Crazy.
alex stein
I want to debunk one thing.
Everybody thinks that it was Kamala that got Joe Biden to step down, but the real conspiracy is that once Joe Biden got COVID and he couldn't smell kids anymore, he just decided, what's the point of running?
I can't sniff these damn kids.
libby emmons
I'm going to call it quits.
tim pool
That's when he broke.
alex stein
That truly broke him.
tim pool
There's no reason.
The flavor of life is gone.
alex stein
Nothing to sniff.
I'm done.
tim pool
So you think Trump's going to do another debate?
libby emmons
I think he could.
I mean, maybe he'll feel like it, you know.
I think it would be good for them to do another debate, but I wonder how many undecided voters there really are.
We saw, we were talking about it the other night, that undecided voters, some of them went for Trump after this debate.
Just, you know, in a focus group kind of thing.
tim pool
He won on the economy, that's all that matters.
libby emmons
He won on the economy, and I think he'd win on a lot of other things.
I think part of it, though, is that she can fluster him because she's so awful.
You know, she does that little smile and the smirk.
tim pool
But if Trump does not have the capability, OK, I think there's a strong reality that because Kamala didn't define herself on the economy, Trump doesn't want to give her the chance to do it.
Trump probably knows behind the scenes he could have done better, but they're saying, look, you improved on the economy according to all these polls.
They say Kamala won, but on the economy, people have shifted towards you.
Do not give her another chance.
That's just it.
mike crispi
And who's going to moderate it?
I mean, who's going to moderate that debate?
What channel will it be on?
Will she agree to a Fox News debate?
libby emmons
She would never agree.
mike crispi
Trump sat there with Kamala's sorority sister and Kamala won't agree to a Fox News debate.
Obviously she won't.
libby emmons
I don't think he should do it.
You even had Pete Buttigieg saying that she should not go on Fox even a little, not even go on Fox for an interview because he said that they were just too biased.
Meanwhile, he's like, but you know, I show up on Fox all the time.
alex stein
Do you think Fox News, I don't even think they would be in favor of Donald Trump.
I mean, do you think they would help him out that much?
Honestly, Fox News kind of sucks.
libby emmons
Yeah, I don't think they would.
tim pool
Yeah, they'd be fair.
So the problem is when it comes to the right, the machine is going to be biased against you and the conservative media will be fair.
alex stein
Yeah, that's not fair and balanced.
I don't know.
mike crispi
Trump called in to Fox & Friends and he said, if the next Fox debate comes, I don't want Brett Baier and Martha to do it.
And they're all sitting there on the couch like, what?
He's like, I want Jesse Waters to do it.
tim pool
Yeah.
mike crispi
And I want Laura Ingraham to do it.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I think that'd be great.
I mean, part of the The strangeness to me is that Kamala Harris could waltz in and say, you agreed to this debate with Biden and I'm here now and you have to debate me on the same day under the same terms.
Very, very odd.
libby emmons
It is very weird.
hannah claire brimelow
And it was like she just dropped in this new candidate, this news vice president, and yet
expected to be treated like Joe Biden, except as we know, she's not Joe Biden.
libby emmons
She doesn't want to be treated like Joe Biden, but she wants all of the privileges that he
earned in his political career starting in the 70s.
She wants everything.
She wants everything that he has earned without having earned it herself.
And then she wants to be treated differently and unique and independent and like a vibrant
woman.
hannah claire brimelow
Right.
And that's part of her campaign. All the headlines were Trump wants to back out of pre-established
debate when really it's not an established debate because Joe Biden is no longer running
This is a completely new campaign.
I wish in some ways that he had pushed harder before this debate, because he had said, I'll debate her multiple times, and they never agreed to it.
And so her campaign got to be like, well, this is the one and only one.
Just kidding, we changed our minds.
tim pool
I'm gonna throw this out there for Sam Seder because I know he just loves my show.
He just talks about it all the time.
unidentified
He loves you?
alex stein
He's in actual love with you?
libby emmons
He wants to date you?
tim pool
Yeah, he's trying to date me.
alex stein
Is Sam Seder homosexual?
tim pool
Oh, I don't know.
I'm just saying, I wanted to throw this out to him and ask this so he can put this on his show on the facts.
What have we got wrong so far?
Okay, so pulling up ABC News and talking about our opinions on the economics of it.
So when we say that CNN had a flash poll that showed that before the debate Trump was ahead by 16 points in the economy and afterwards it went up to like 20-something, what are we wrong on the facts?
unidentified
Right?
tim pool
If you want to argue the opinions, by all means we can argue the opinions, but what are we wrong about on the facts?
And I don't think we're completely right on all the facts.
So I'll throw that one out to you and then you and your friends can get a segment out of it.
So there you go.
And then we'll jump to the next story here.
This one's from the post-millennial!
41% of independents say ABC debate moderators were unfair to Trump, favor him on the economy, immigration, in a YouGov poll.
This is massive, okay?
41% of independents in a post-debate poll said that ABC News was not fair.
The poll from YouGov found that 46% of independents said Trump and Harris were both treated fairly during the debate.
Among all takers of the poll, 35% of Americans said Trump was treated unfairly, blah blah blah blah blah blah.
The poll showed the opinion of the major political parties.
With independents, the sought-after voter bloc for the election, they believed moderators appeared to show bias.
Independents also swung toward Trump after the debate on several top issues.
On immigration, 53% of independents said Trump would handle the issue very well or somewhat well.
Kamala Harris only got 38%.
On the economy, Donald Trump got 59% of independents that said he would handle it very well or somewhat well, whereas only 40% could have said the same for Harris.
The polls conducted with 1,407 U.S.
adults, blah blah blah.
So, my question is, for all the leftists out there, when we look at this debate, and they're all saying Kamala won, the politicos, the pundits are all saying Kamala won, Kamala won, she won, it's clear, it's obvious, Trump's scared, he won't do a rematch, and I'm just like, But now we have YouGov and CNN showing polls where Trump is leading on the economy and immigration.
The economy, of course, is the top issue for the election.
It always is.
Not completely, but usually.
Immigration briefly was, but immigration is also a major top issue, though it is tied to the economy.
So let's just start here.
People who watch the debate think Trump is better.
After watching it, he improved among independents on the economy and immigration.
What would the assessment be for the left then?
Is it favorable for Kamala Harris?
My argument would be, I think that Kamala proved that she was better prepared, she sounded better, and that may work for a lot of people.
But I think she failed to define herself in the economy, resulting in Trump winning on, quote, it's the economy, stupid, and that's probably going to be a much, much bigger issue than feels.
Final thought before I pass it on is, When, you know, Ian was in here the other day saying, Kamala, go to Trump.
And Trump walked right into it.
It was miserable.
And I was like, are you going to vote for her?
And he goes, no.
So that's the question.
She could have won the debate.
You can say all the great things about her and she got Trump flustered and she was better prepared, but she didn't win on the issues.
mike crispi
There's such a low bar.
I think the Democrats are feeling good because they have a candidate who could just complete sentences, I guess.
And you know, the funny thing is, is like coming out of the debate, what's everybody talking about?
They're talking about the cats and they're talking about the dogs.
The Democrats are literally at their rally last night chanting, we don't eat cats.
I'm like, this is what Trump did in 2015.
He literally said the thing about the wall.
And everyone said it was crazy and it was stupid and you shouldn't have done it.
But then everyone kept repeating it until everyone agreed with it.
tim pool
That's going to backfire on them so miserably.
libby emmons
I think so too because what that really is, is that shows that they are not as culturally relativist as they think.
Because if they really were accepting and tolerant and open, they would say, I perhaps don't eat a cat, but it is certainly fine if you do.
tim pool
But they have been saying that.
Oh, have they?
libby emmons
It's not happening.
alex stein
I've seen the tweets where it's like, it's part of their culture.
tim pool
Yeah, right away, many leftists said, just because you don't like it doesn't mean... You know, and they have that... PETA has that meme where it's like, it's a bunch of animals in a line, and then it says, America, and there's like a line saying like, friends and food, and then other countries, it's a different line, and they're like, which one's right?
There's a lot of leftists who are saying the conservatives are mad about goose hunting now.
And it's like, well, the conservatives are mad that they're playing with their kids in the park and then some migrant walks up and kills a duck.
But also the geese are protected as well.
libby emmons
They're protected just like the Haitians.
tim pool
Yeah, it's not legal to go into a park and kill waterfowl.
libby emmons
That's correct.
alex stein
Well, that PETA meme is good where it has all the animals, has like a horse, you know, and then it goes down to a duck and cat.
tim pool
We put that one up.
alex stein
They put the line, you know, as friend or food.
But what is weird is why is PETA not coming after this and going after the people that are in Springfield that are actually doing this?
Like, why are they not standing up for those cats?
That's where I'm kind of confused, I guess.
hannah claire brimelow
I think they're probably saying, oh, well, the town official says it's not happening, so we don't have to get involved.
alex stein
We saw that one video of a girl eating a cat in the driveway.
tim pool
It's not PETA.
I got a correction.
It's not PETA.
It's veganbillboard.com.
mike crispi
Esteemed organization there.
tim pool
Yeah, it's like all animals want to live.
Where do you draw the line?
I got to stop right there and say rabbits are food.
hannah claire brimelow
Rabbits, like, are the line.
They should be flipped with the horse.
libby emmons
Remember that Michael Moore movie, Pets or Meat?
tim pool
Pets or Meat?
libby emmons
Pets or Meat.
There was a woman in Flint, Michigan, selling rabbits for pets or meat.
tim pool
I had to eat two servings of chicken tikka masala today because Alex is vegetarian and so he didn't eat it.
And so for every animal he doesn't eat, I eat too.
alex stein
I know that's what they all do.
I'm the plant-based pimp.
I actually love animals.
I think all animals deserve to live.
But I know that's a liberal kind of libtarded take, but I'm okay with that.
But honestly, I'm really mad because now on Twitter every day I'm seeing people killing cats.
libby emmons
I don't like that either.
I really like cats.
mike crispi
It's wild because like Trump said it and now it's flooded like the zone is flooded with videos of people I mean there's a video that Alex and I saw that it's literally the guy the Haitian guy is biting the neck of the cat and he's biting it and then there's like that that 911 body cam footage that we talked about in Springfield.
alex stein
I don't really like it.
mike crispi
There's a guy cooking it that's in Italy and it's like, obviously it's going to come to
America.
And then there's like the 911 call recordings of people saying, yeah, I'm in the park with
my kids.
And uh, they're literally just grabbing the geese, uh, by the neck and strangling and
walking.
I don't know if there's an emergency.
I don't know what this is.
libby emmons
I don't really like it.
hannah claire brimelow
Could you maybe intervene?
mike crispi
But it's like, it's like, so it's like so unbelievable when it happened.
People were texting me.
They're like, what is this?
It can't even be real, but it's real.
tim pool
There's a Twitter account, Rick Marazzani, who responded and he says, the PETA billboard asks, so I answered.
And he drew the line, it says, every day, then the horse and the rabbit is economic collapse.
And then all the dogs and cats are apocalyptic afterscape.
mike crispi
We're in the apocalyptic, we're in the apocalyptic phase of America.
tim pool
Well, actually, I heard something really interesting about Springfield, Ohio.
They say it's a town of 59,000, but I think that census number is old.
libby emmons
And there's 20,000 Haitians, apparently.
tim pool
So what I've heard is that it's not—the population is nowhere near 59,000.
That's the old census numbers, and the population collapsed rather dramatically.
And so that's why it's seemingly more pronounced.
So when the media comes out and says, oh, their population is 59,000, and there's—the media's reporting 15,000.
It sounds like, okay, well, that's a lot.
You know, we're looking at, you know, you know, I don't know, 20 to 30% shift for these people.
But when you look at, if it is true that people have been fleeing and moving out because of economic collapse and strife or whatever, small towns have been dying, it could be closer to, you know, 2 to 1 or 1 to 1.
hannah claire brimelow
I think this is an interesting point because the first time I saw it reported, Springfield had a population, I think the number I kept seeing was 53,000.
Then it was 54,000.
Then I kept seeing 59,000.
But the number of Haitian migrants has stayed exactly the same, 15,000.
How interesting and convenient!
I think that's probably not true.
I would get if there's some population flux with the town, but if you're going to stay 15,000's consistent for the Haitian migrants, I feel like you might have a slight bent there.
tim pool
The 2022 number is 58,000.
But when did the Haitian migrants come?
hannah claire brimelow
They started coming in 2021 under Joe Biden.
tim pool
Because then this population count of 58,000 includes Haitian migrants.
libby emmons
And that's part of their whole refugee program, where they admit, what, like 30,000 refugees from these favored horrible nations per month.
alex stein
Well, I don't understand.
I remember after September 11, 2001, they signed the Patriot Act, and they told us that We gotta get rid of all these terrorists.
And then, you know, fast forward 23 years, and we're just importing these terrorists.
Not that all Haitians are terrorists, but could you imagine if this was the same story?
tim pool
You're talking about like the terror watch list people who are crossing the border?
alex stein
Yeah, I mean, now they just let everybody come across the border, but they were so much stricter in 2001, 2002.
Could you imagine if they tried to do this in 2002?
They wouldn't let it happen.
So it's just kind of sad that we're this far gone.
tim pool
I think you're just a bigot because you don't want to eat cats.
alex stein
I'm not a bigot!
libby emmons
Because you don't want to eat cats.
That's what makes you a bigot.
alex stein
I love big booty Latinas.
We need lots of Latinas.
But some of these Haitians, I think that they should have to... This is what makes me mad.
My favorite TV show is 90 Day Fiancé.
And in that show, you have to get engaged.
These illegal immigrants will be engaged with an American citizen.
And oftentimes it's a hot girl with this 500 pound guy.
And my point is, is now they don't have to do that 90-day fiancé gimmick.
They just get to get in for free.
You used to have to earn the right to be an American citizen.
tim pool
Through marriage.
alex stein
Through marriage!
hannah claire brimelow
It's really hurting the mail-ordered bride industry.
alex stein
The mail-ordered bride's crashing!
tim pool
All my buddies... The mail-mail-ordered bride industry.
alex stein
I mean, everything's crashing.
It just makes me sick that it used to mean something to be an American, and now you can just be a Haitian and then become an Uber driver and then crash into a family of four, and they don't even charge you with murder.
Did you guys see that?
tim pool
The governor was talking about that on Fox.
alex stein
It's ridiculous.
tim pool
He said that they don't know how to drive because where they come from they either don't drive or they have different laws.
alex stein
Totally different roads.
They don't even have traffic lights.
tim pool
They come here and the law is if you're 18 you get a license.
And so he's like, but they have no driver.
So we're giving them licenses.
They don't know how to drive.
They don't know what any of this is.
libby emmons
But don't they have to... I mean, don't you have to take your learner's permit test and then a real test?
unidentified
No.
mike crispi
No.
alex stein
Well, I think somebody asked me... What?
tim pool
Not when you're 18.
mike crispi
If you're a migrant.
libby emmons
What do you mean?
tim pool
If you're a migrant.
When I was 18 in Illinois to get my license, I walked in.
They handed me a 10-question folding paper.
I went, boop, boop, boop.
Then I drove around the block and they said, here's your license.
Have a nice day.
libby emmons
Okay, that is not how it was for me in Philadelphia when I failed my driving test three times.
I was 16.
When you're 16, you need a permit first.
Yeah, it was also not true in New York where I eventually got my license and I needed a learner's permit first when I was in my 40s.
tim pool
New York does that.
libby emmons
Yeah, New York takes things seriously.
tim pool
In Illinois, if you're 16 or 17, you need a learner's permit first.
If you're 18, you can just walk in and get it.
And so, when I was 16, my parents were like, do you want to get your learner's permit?
And I was like, no.
You had to do a summer class and then you get your permit and then you're allowed to
drive if someone else is driving with you with a license.
And I was like, well, then what's the point?
I was like, I'll just have them drive.
So I said, no.
Soon I turned 18, I walked in the DMV, walked out half an hour later with a license.
libby emmons
I failed my driving test.
alex stein
No, I'm the opposite.
I got a hardship license when I was 15 and my dad, we went to the DMV and he said that
he had diabetes and he didn't, so I hope we don't go to jail.
And then I would have to take, cause you can get a hardship license if you have like a
sick family member or something and you need to drive them around.
So I got my license when I was 15 on the second day, you know, the day after my birthday when I was 15.
That was like the most important thing to me was the license.
But yeah, we did lie to the DMV.
So I hope they don't arrest me for saying this.
mike crispi
What kind of cars did the migrants drive?
alex stein
First car that I had was a Ford Explorer and it stunk.
But yeah, the migrants I think they're getting like, Uber will pay for your car if you sign up for it.
Yes.
unidentified
No.
alex stein
They have a plan.
unidentified
Yes, they have a plan.
alex stein
Uber will finance your car.
I swear.
I swear.
They have a way through Uber.
If you can get registered as an Uber driver, you have, like, no down payment.
And then they take out part of the car payment on what you made.
mike crispi
And then they're doing all this.
And I said, like, they show up to the DMV.
They have a translator with them.
I'm like, who gave them the translator to go?
libby emmons
Federal government.
unidentified
Joe Biden.
hannah claire brimelow
Kamala Harris.
mike crispi
Who gave them the paperwork?
tim pool
The translator is Biden.
The translator is Biden.
libby emmons
It is Biden, yeah.
mike crispi
Migrants speak more cohesive English than the...
tim pool
No, no, they're translating for him.
hannah claire brimelow
I think Trump saying the dog line or like they're eating the dogs on stage is so interesting because it reminds me of when he said they're not sending their bags or like the dogs all of the stuff because it made mainstream media really mad but it made Average American voters look into it and or have conversations with one another and a lot of people are impacted by illegal immigration and illegal immigrants crime.
That's really what Trump is.
libby emmons
There was a whole hearing this week about immigrant crime.
tim pool
Let's pull a story from the post-millennial.
Voodoo is real.
Marianne Williamson says Democrats attacking claims that Haitians are eating cats will backfire.
She called Democrats smug elite jerks who think they're too smart to listen to anyone outside their own silo.
I tremendously respect Marianne Williamson for this.
mike crispi
That's based.
tim pool
But they are already attacking her as the crystal woo-woo lady.
But this is what works because I think she knows her strengths now.
And so I imagine she's sitting there and being like, they have levied this attack against me, which is unfair and untrue, but now I'm going to flip it back on them.
As the crystal woo-woo lady, she's like, voodoo is real, they do do this, and you are wrong, stop.
alex stein
Voodoo is real, they do do it.
tim pool
Oh I know, but I'm saying like, she's an expert.
hannah claire brimelow
And I feel like she's taking it.
tim pool
They labeled her the expert.
They said she was the crystal lady.
And while the crystal lady is telling you they do this, these rituals exist, not work.
hannah claire brimelow
I think she's taking a page out of RFK's book of lessons here.
Like the Democratic Party is never going to embrace her.
They're never going to acknowledge her.
And so she might as well be the third party candidate who is saying, actually, this party's awful and they're only in it for themselves.
They're not in it for you.
They don't tell you the truth.
I mean, that was really one of RFK's departing messages when he when he suspended his campaign.
mike crispi
Maybe she'll endorse Trump next.
alex stein
Unless the Haitians stop eating cats, the dam will break and people will realize that there are pets being eaten.
I mean, they can only hide this for so long.
tim pool
I think the funny thing about it is all the people asking for evidence of it, and it's just like, but they ate the cats.
Like, what is the evidence?
You're going to take a stool sample and go get a test?
A colonic and then see what comes out?
unidentified
Come on.
mike crispi
But it's like, there's the legitimate police reports, 911 calls, and then David Muir says, well, the city manager says, Right, the one guy who really doesn't want it to be true.
But there's people calling the police!
tim pool
So the challenge is about the dogs, but there are... OK, so here's the issue.
City manager says there's no credible evidence that this is happening.
We've not received any evidence.
And viral videos from locals are saying, my neighbors are saying, I've seen it happen.
So what happens is the credentialists, the Democrats, say, I'm not going to believe some random guy who lives in Springfield.
And the right, the populists, are going, I'm not going to believe some bureaucrat.
And that's really where we're at.
libby emmons
But yeah, I mean, that is where we're at in a lot of cases.
And you certainly have Kamala Harris, who doesn't want to talk to any of the locals or average people.
She buses in people to so that she can make random restaurant stops.
And it's all totally faked.
Donald Trump shows up in a McDonald's and buys stuff for everybody and was like, Hey, yeah, check it out.
alex stein
Well, do we think that he handled that statement when she said people leave the debate, I mean, excuse me, the rallies early?
You know, Trump should have said, maybe they leave the rallies early.
I think this is a Danny Polishuk joke because he got shot.
Maybe that's why they leave.
But I don't know.
I mean, her rallies suck, but she did fill that stadium.
Where was that?
mike crispi
Meg the Stallion.
alex stein
Everybody left when Meg the Stallion was there.
She's projecting what happened to her.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
But Trump doesn't know that.
And Trump took the bait.
alex stein
Yeah.
tim pool
She gave Trump a layup right there.
unidentified
Yeah, it was a kill shot.
tim pool
He could have come out and said, excuse me, we're here to talk about the suffering of the American people and you want to talk about rallies?
If you want to sit here and insult me, we can go backstage and you can insult me.
I'll let you do that.
But I'm here to tell the American people I'm fighting for them.
If that's not what you're interested in doing, then maybe you shouldn't be on stage at all.
libby emmons
Well, sure, that would make a lot of sense, except that is not Trump's jam.
He never does that.
I mean, one of his fatal flaws, you know, like his biggest flaw is that ego that he has of really wanting everything, you know, like he talks about crowd size, he talks about rallies, he talks about all that stuff.
And I think that on the one hand, you're not going to get Trump being who he is without that.
But it is sort of a downfall.
tim pool
Is it true that Trump has a golden toilet?
libby emmons
If I were Trump, I would.
unidentified
Why would you not have that?
tim pool
Trump Tower.
Could you imagine if Kamala was like, and Trump's gold toilet?
Not even real gold.
He'd just be like, excuse me, excuse me.
mike crispi
Carrots are very big.
tim pool
That is pure gold.
It is bent from my body.
It mushes.
That's how good it is.
Trump falls for that too easily.
libby emmons
Yeah, he does.
One thing, though, I think it was Kellyanne Conway at the RNC.
She said people don't like his personality.
Well, you're not going to get those policies without that personality.
So that's part of it, too.
alex stein
Speaking of toilets, Tim has a space toilet and the seat is heated, Tim.
libby emmons
It's the Death Star toilet.
I always think it's the Death Star.
alex stein
The seat is heated, Tim, and this is my main criticism.
It feels like somebody was just sitting on there.
libby emmons
I don't like that either.
unidentified
I don't know if I like that feature.
alex stein
I wouldn't make me a cold seat.
tim pool
So what happens is, after someone uses it...
It heats up to 1,000 degrees, sterilizing the surface and glowing bright red hot, and then it cools down to a warm 102 degrees.
In like a millisecond, right?
I'm kidding, it doesn't do that.
alex stein
It does get hot though, I'm telling you, it gets hot.
So, I don't know, we're talking about toilets, we're talking about cats, and abortion is like the most important issue.
I mean, I think we're just kind of screwed.
tim pool
I hate to be so black-pilled, but... I think our culture is shattered and fragmented into a million pieces, and I don't know how a civilization or a society survives without any kind of cultural cohesion.
libby emmons
I think that's a really big problem that we have going on, and you can see that across the board with a lot of our cultural offerings, right?
I mean, nobody has the same set of shows that they watch.
When I was a kid, like, I think on Fridays, we'd all go into school and talk about what was on The Cosby Show the night before, you know?
I could still probably give you most of that lineup, and that's just not true anymore.
People don't read the same books, you never go see the same movies, people don't even watch the same YouTube channels, you know what I mean?
It's like everything is so fractured, yet The way that it's fractured and the people who consume those cultural fragments, let's say, aren't even aligned themselves.
We were talking about this, I was talking about this with somebody, I forget, but it was like, there's not even a scene within those subcultures.
It's just you alone with your stuff.
tim pool
Was Game of Thrones the last time?
libby emmons
Yeah, that was a big deal, right?
tim pool
Everybody was watching it.
It didn't matter if you were right or left.
When Khaleesi stepped out of the flames, everybody lost their minds.
But I feel like all that's gone now.
alex stein
First of all, Joe Exotic was the last time.
hannah claire brimelow
I think it was Joe Exotic because I didn't watch Game of Thrones.
I know a lot of people did.
libby emmons
I didn't either, but I did feel left out.
hannah claire brimelow
And COVID was a time when everyone had nothing else to do and Netflix did a great job of being like, here are some brand new content because you're all trapped at home.
libby emmons
One thing everybody did during COVID was make the bread.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, lots of bread, TikTok had a moment, sold us all kinds of products.
I think part of the desire for like cultural cohesion is there, but we have to define our values more definitively and we're just not willing to do, or at least a part of the country is not willing to do that because it would mean that there is a hierarchy.
Not to go back to the cats and dogs thing, but obviously there would be certain things people would be like, we're firmly against this no matter what culture you came from, and there are certain things that we are for.
And I think that, so they say like 10% of voters are undecided, but actually it's really like 5% a certain amount of undecided voters lean a certain way, they know they're going to vote right or left.
libby emmons
And then there's a bunch of people that just won't vote.
hannah claire brimelow
And that's part of that remaining 5%, which I find fascinating because where are they?
What are they doing?
What YouTube channels are they watching?
They have to be doing something.
tim pool
They're listening to Call Her Daddy.
hannah claire brimelow
Right.
No one doesn't participate in online culture at all.
And I think Trump's campaign has actually done a better job of going to where voters are in that sense.
tim pool
It's not that.
It's that they're going to make TikTok videos for virality where they're like, did you see what Trump said?
They're eating dogs.
Man, click like and subscribe.
And then voting election day comes.
They're going to be like, where's McDonald's?
hannah claire brimelow
No, you know what I see all the time right now?
It's when Lindsey What's-Her-Face asked Trump about his plan for ending Obamacare, and he was like, we have a great plan, but if it's not going to save money, we're not going to do it.
And I keep seeing that clipped everywhere.
Me when I ask my boyfriend what our date night plan is, or me when my boss asks me when I'm going to turn something in.
I didn't think that was a strong moment at the time, but it has become funny.
Trump has a personality, and I think if you're not interested in politics, you're still buying personality, which Harris just doesn't have one.
libby emmons
No, she's a mean girl personality.
She's a bully personality.
That's what she's really all about.
mike crispi
I hear from my sources.
libby emmons
She thinks everybody's beneath her.
mike crispi
She takes a lot of Xanax, and she drinks a lot.
I hear that from very good sources.
libby emmons
I can see that.
alex stein
I think she's on Xanax.
libby emmons
That's a pretty good combo, too.
A glass of wine, half a Xanax.
It'll give you a good night.
alex stein
You probably kind of need Xanax, too.
You're speaking in front of all those people.
She's definitely probably on that.
But is America a melting pot, though?
I mean, that's what they always taught us in school.
tim pool
It was, not anymore.
alex stein
Yeah, they don't want it.
tim pool
The reason why it was is because we had three TV channels.
And so if an immigrant came here, they turned on the TV, they got one of the three channels.
Now we have 15 million channels.
libby emmons
Yeah, I think it's really different.
And I think one thing that happened is that the American cultural elite hate America, so they don't insist on any kind of assimilation whatsoever.
And it used to be, you know, great-grandparents, my great-grandparents came to the country.
They wanted to assimilate.
They wanted to be American.
They didn't want to, you know, speak their native language.
My great-grandmother learned how to read from reading the New York Times.
My grandparents changed their names so that they would appear more American, you know, to the point where when my grandfather was in his 70s, I used to make fun of him and be like, what are you going to put ketchup on your pasta?
What is this?
You're Sicilian.
What's going on?
But I think that that has really changed.
So when you have the stewards of American culture, hating American culture, these are our museums and our, you know, government entities, our libraries, our universities.
Our statues!
When they hate America, then immigrants come in, their kids learn to hate America in our schools.
Why would they want to uphold American values when they're taught that they should just be hated?
tim pool
When I was a kid growing up in Chicago, we had, I think it's reasonable to say we had eight channels on the TV.
So I mean like a little kid, you turn the TV on, let's see, what was reasonable, and maybe eight's being generous.
So you had Channel 2, CBS, NBC, ABC, WGN, and then I'll just jump to 32 and 50.
So technically just six.
However, to be fair, Channel 11, I know it existed, but it wasn't a prominent cultural force.
libby emmons
Is that like PIX?
tim pool
PBS.
WTTW.
And then you had 26th of the U, but that was typically like reruns and, you know, just like more weird local stuff.
But it is fair to say there's a channel.
Channel 44 was Spanish language.
But even then, and then you had I think 60, which was like QVC or something.
That was it.
You turn the TV on, you flip 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, and you're done.
That's it.
There's nothing else you're gonna watch.
And so most of the people I grew up with, it was you were either watching Channel 7 or you're watching Channel 32.
Channel 32 was Fox, we had Simpsons.
So you'd watch the Simpsons Thursday at 7 or whatever, I think, back in the day.
And then we had TGIF on, I think that was ABC.
And so everybody watched the same show.
The next day, everybody had the same jokes, everybody knew.
But there was cable, but most of the people who I grew up with outside of Chicago didn't have cable.
Some people did.
libby emmons
Yeah, I didn't have cable for a long time.
tim pool
It was expensive.
People couldn't afford it.
libby emmons
Yeah.
Plus, even once we got cable, I wasn't allowed to watch it anyway, so it doesn't matter.
alex stein
Didn't your dad make you read a book a day or something?
libby emmons
My dad was pretty strict about education, which in retrospect, I super appreciate.
He would make me do two hours of homework every night, and if I didn't have two hours of homework, I had to make it up so it would be reading and stuff.
alex stein
I'm still traumatized from, I remember my mom, we watched Pulp Fiction before she knew what happened in that scene where they go and get the gimp suit, and I was way too young for that.
So I think that's why I'm so damaged today.
tim pool
I think so.
Let's jump to this, we got this from Post Millennial.
Movie theaters cave to pressure from leftist activists, cancel screenings of Matt Walsh's Am I Racist?
So this is Del Oro Theater saying, Dear patrons, due to the strong reactions from our community, For and against, and concerns for the well-being of our staff, we will not be playing the film, Am I Racist?, as originally intended.
Please know that it was not our intention to cause such a division by playing the film.
We noticed that many of the theaters in the Sacramento area were booked to play this film, and quite frankly, this reaction caught us off guard.
The safety of our staff is number one priority.
So, Robbie Starbuck tweeted this out.
He says, wow, left-wing activists are now bullying small movie theaters into dropping Amiracist.
Another theater owner told me that they've been told small theaters like this are being targeted with threats from left-wing activists.
The left is terrified of this film because it's not only hilarious, but it's effective at dismantling their dangerous ideology.
We need to pack the theaters with sold-out showings to make this movie even bigger.
I don't know what else you're doing this weekend.
I mean, maybe you got plans.
I ain't telling you your plans are bad.
I'm just saying.
You know, periodically, it's the weekend, and I'm hanging out with friends, and we're like, what do you want to do?
We go bowl, we go do karaoke, we'll see are there any movies, and we check to see if there's movies out.
There is a movie out!
And you already know it's funny.
libby emmons
I saw it.
tim pool
It was funny.
libby emmons
I saw it twice.
It was really good.
tim pool
Twice?
libby emmons
Yeah.
Well, because I got the screener, and I did a review of it based on the screener.
tim pool
It was special.
unidentified
VIP over here.
libby emmons
I know.
And then, well, I've been covering a bunch of this whole And then I saw it at the, I went to the premiere on Monday in Nashville.
tim pool
Would you give it a shillingly good 10 out of 10 or a reasonable, I'm gonna try and seem not biased, 8 out of 10?
libby emmons
I think I would probably give it somewhere around like a 7 or 8 out of 10.
unidentified
7?!
tim pool
Oh, she went down!
libby emmons
That's basically saying it's an F. No, it's not at all because I have really high standards for movies and also I have not great taste in movies so my favorite movies a lot of people think they're bad.
tim pool
I'm gonna give it an 11.
I give it 11 out of 10 and I haven't even seen it but it's because all these woke people disabled their ex accounts.
libby emmons
I think it's really funny, and I think it's really well done, and one thing that I really loved was how many of the anti-racist activists just got skewered, and I loved that.
You had Robin DiAngelo, you know, and she is so fake.
She's such a grifter, and she was, she admitted her white privilege to one of the producers who's black, and she handed cash, and then you had Sarah Rao and Regina Jackson, who I think are just too miserable Horrible women and they have these they hold these dinners where women pay thousands of dollars to be told that they suck Yeah, and the woman will be sitting there drinking wine like crying and Sarah Rowe and Regina Jackson They will be like those tears are violence you white women's tears are responsible for so much horror in the world and you have this one woman who in the film who's like
Well, my husband is black and, you know, maybe I'm racist because sometimes we're in public, I ask him to keep his voice down.
And Sarah Rao goes, yeah, so that's tone policing.
And that's definitely racist.
And she basically convinces this woman that she's racist against her husband and her own children.
tim pool
And then Matt has them all toast to being racist.
That's amazing.
I can't believe they pulled this off.
Just from what I've seen in the trailers and the sneak peeks, it looks like it's bigger and better than What Is A Woman.
libby emmons
I just think he could have gone harder at the end, and that's why I give it a little less than a ten.
unidentified
Really?
libby emmons
Yeah, I just think he could have gone harder.
tim pool
So you think the ending wasn't good?
The story wasn't there?
libby emmons
I think it was, I mean, I don't want to give any spoilers.
tim pool
He didn't learn any lessons, the main character?
unidentified
He did.
libby emmons
I just, I just thought he could have been tougher on the white people at the end.
Like really, I just think he could have been a little tougher on those people.
alex stein
I haven't seen a movie in the theater since before COVID.
libby emmons
I had a great time seeing the movie.
I thought, I mean, I thought it was good.
I watched it with my son and he loved it too.
hannah claire brimelow
I want to go see Reagan.
tim pool
So you're admitting to sharing your screener with non-staff Correct.
libby emmons
I watched it with him.
He was very excited about it.
He wanted to see it.
tim pool
Because he's a big Matt Walsh fan.
libby emmons
He really likes Matt Walsh.
And I actually saw Matt Walsh at the premiere and I was like, my son thinks you're great.
And he was like, Oh, is that where you went recently?
tim pool
You went to the premiere?
libby emmons
Yeah, in Nashville.
Yeah, it was really a lot of fun.
I mean, you know, Mary was there from PCC.
And that was cool.
alex stein
Did you see I think Matt Walsh's next documentary?
It's called What is a Jew, I think.
libby emmons
Oh nice, is he going to do like the ringlets?
alex stein
He's going to go to Israel.
libby emmons
Is he going to get circumcised?
alex stein
Maybe, I don't know, maybe.
tim pool
I heard this, I don't know if it's true, but I heard that Daily Wire was pro-Israel.
mike crispi
I haven't caught up on that one yet.
alex stein
I haven't heard that one.
tim pool
The Israel stuff makes people go insane.
alex stein
It does.
It really does.
And you know, there are some conspiracies, and we're on YouTube, we can only get into it, but it's like, this is what I don't like about the anti-Israel narrative, and you can have criticisms of Israel, people talk about the USS Liberty and all this stuff, but it's just like this victimhood mentality where you blame everything on one place or one people.
It's just, they're not the root of all of our problems.
tim pool
This is why I bring it up, because What I hear of the Israel stuff, they're literally saying Jewish privilege.
And I was like, I tell these people, you know you could exchange the word Jew and white, and you're saying the exact same thing as these woke racist activists.
alex stein
Exactly right.
You nailed it with that.
tim pool
You've identified a group of people, you've isolated certain behaviors without looking at the greater picture of things, you've determined that they are the ones oppressing you, and now you're activists for that cause, targeting this group of people based on their ethnicity or race.
I'm like, I don't see a difference between white privilege and what you're saying.
libby emmons
Well, we went entirely wrong as a culture when we stopped thinking that being colorblind was the best way to be actually non-racist.
I think that was a huge mistake.
Because then as soon as you say, you know, well, I'm not racist, but I'm going to identify people by their racial and ethnic groupings and similarities, And I'm going to ascribe to those groups specific characteristics and also give them specific characteristics as they relate to other ethnic and racial groups.
Now you're doing exactly the opposite of the American Melting Pot project.
tim pool
It's just funny to me this idea that like these woke DEI people doing these seminars, there can be like a black man from the Hamptons who's like Harvard educated and worth 17 million dollars from like third generation wealthy industrialist family and he walks into a workplace and they immediately go, do you need help?
And it's just like, that's racist.
mike crispi
That's the racism.
tim pool
Yeah, you don't know anything about this.
libby emmons
Low expectations.
tim pool
Exactly.
libby emmons
That's like such a huge thing.
I think that's a really good show.
tim pool
And then they get mad at me, you know, because they say you're not allowed to say Asians are good at math.
alex stein
And they are good.
tim pool
And my mom makes math videos.
alex stein
Does she really?
tim pool
She does.
alex stein
She's that good at math?
tim pool
She's got a big YouTube channel and everything.
Making math videos.
libby emmons
Your mom is super cool, though.
alex stein
I didn't realize that.
tim pool
She's got a big channel.
libby emmons
She occasionally sends me news tips.
tim pool
Over 100,000 subscribers and everything.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Doing math.
alex stein
That's awesome, actually.
mike crispi
A lot of Asian subscribers.
tim pool
Actually does.
alex stein
Will you speak about your mom?
I just want to say this.
Sure, I don't know anybody's grandparents here, but my grandparents are in a little rancid.
Was the country better when all of our grandparents were racist?
You know, like our grandparents had grown at a different time?
tim pool
That's a bad question.
alex stein
Why?
libby emmons
It's a corollary, not causation.
tim pool
Right, right, right.
So we can say things like, first of all, how do you define whether the country was better or not better?
Because there's so many different elements of a country.
alex stein
You could say that people could afford a single family home.
I think that's a big indication.
tim pool
But my point is this, right?
The reason people could afford a single family home off a high school education has nothing to do with race.
It wasn't that because we decided that racism was bad, all of a sudden we became poor.
The problem was corrupt individuals exploiting issues of race, exacerbating the racism, and driving cultural wedges, I think, is contributing to economic instability, but still not the principal factor.
alex stein
Yeah, and I don't think racism is the worst thing.
I'm saying I think racism is bad, but I don't think everybody's racist.
Maybe people have preconceived stereotypes and they kind of tease different cultures, but if you're at the grocery store, you're not going to be like, I'm not checking out this person's groceries.
I don't think that segregation exists.
I don't know, it's like the media making us, spitting us against each other.
mike crispi
It's like that on purpose, because they want to take the identity that we have as Americans, and they don't want there to be an identity of Americans, they want it to be an identity of, I'm black, I'm Jewish, I'm whatever.
And that's how they divide us, and they're taking the identity of America away.
That's why they import the Asians, and I think people who, like, not to belabor on the cats thing, but they see that and they just go, well this just isn't how we are in America and they see it and they go, I want just normal American culture back, you know?
tim pool
We want hamburgers on the grill.
mike crispi
Yeah, the American stuff.
Yeah.
Hot dogs.
Apple pie, Tim.
alex stein
I want to make this point.
We're getting really mad at Haitians for eating cats yet.
tim pool
I'm not mad at them.
alex stein
Well, everybody here has been to a Chinese super buffet and had cat probably.
If you've had the bourbon chicken at any mall, you've probably had a little cat.
libby emmons
I mean, I would have thought that that would be a little more a little more rat.
alex stein
So there's definitely some rat in there.
tim pool
Sure.
alex stein
A little more chicken like than what that Chinese buffets have cats in a food like is this is I posted a video where they're actually in China it is it Yeah, and they have the Yulin Dog Meat Festival, the Summer Solstice, where they eat dog meat because they think it helps them with their sexual, you know, getting an erection.
tim pool
I know that, you know, the woke activists at YouTube are gonna be like, you can't say that Chinese people eat cat.
No, like, it's, uh, in Guangdong, cat meat is a main ingredient in the traditional dish.
It's called dragon tiger phoenix.
It's snake, cat, and chicken.
alex stein
And look, type in Chinese menu and they have menus where they'll show like the prettiest cat.
They'll show like a golden retriever and a beautiful like Garfield looking cat and there'll be a price and you can just pay for it.
That's real.
That's in China.
That's not a conspiracy.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
And there's animal activists that are actually calling this stuff out.
alex stein
Of course, there's people that go and save dogs.
tim pool
Animal activists are saying that there's an underground trade of cat and dog that are used for meat.
hannah claire brimelow
To Alex's earlier point, where is PETA right now, right?
They were calling it out at one time, but once Trump becomes associated with the don't eat the pets cause, they're suddenly like weirdly quiet.
mike crispi
You see Trump is like posted last night, he like was just like shit posting and he just posted like four in a row on Instagram of like AI memes of him saving the cats.
unidentified
Who was making those for him, Barry?
tim pool
Hold on, hold on.
New York Post.
This is from April.
Dozens of dogs, cats arriving at NYC spared from Chinese slaughterhouses are being served as meat.
Yeah, that's right.
People just say it's a joke or it's a gag, but they're animal activists trying to save these animals from illicit meat trades.
hannah claire brimelow
But immigration is a gift to the nation.
alex stein
Google the Yulin Dog Meat Festival.
It's a whole festival where everybody eats it.
tim pool
That's in China.
This is in New York City.
alex stein
Yeah, well, this is them saving the dogs.
So they take the dogs from Yulin or wherever, and then they bring them to America, and then they rehome them.
unidentified
Wow.
alex stein
Yeah, that's really bad.
tim pool
Yeah, I think Vietnam, it's big to eat dog as well, right?
alex stein
Well, yeah, my good friend Lila Hart, and she's a comedian, she's been on this show, and she's had dogs.
She's like, yeah, and she's Filipino or Filipina.
tim pool
Dogs can smell if you've ever eaten a dog.
alex stein
No, they can't.
tim pool
Yeah.
libby emmons
You said that the other day.
tim pool
I believe it.
So dogs, they have dogs trained to smell if you're gonna have a seizure.
Dogs trained to smell if you have cancer.
And so I heard this a long time ago from from a dog trainer.
And he said that dogs can smell if you've ever eaten dog and they'll growl at you and they'll get mad at you or they'll not trust you because they can smell that you've eaten dog before.
libby emmons
How can they smell it even if it's like a year ago?
tim pool
How can they smell seizures?
alex stein
How can they smell cancer?
tim pool
They can smell when someone's gonna have a seizure like what does a person give off That the dog's like, I can smell a seizure coming and it freaks out.
Watch these videos.
It's crazy.
The person's like sitting at their computer typing and the dog runs up and goes, oh, and then they're like, oh crap.
And then they lay down and the dog puts them in a recovery position and they start seizing.
Like the dog warns them the seizure is coming.
I don't know, man.
I believe it.
And I would never eat dog.
libby emmons
I actually had a friend who was having seizures and she got a dog who could smell her seizures and it wasn't even like a special dog.
tim pool
I don't think you should eat dog because we, our society, dogs are good people.
But I also just think it's dangerous because imagine one day, imagine this, you're visiting Vietnam, revisiting China, and then there's a guy and he's got a dog going and you're like, you know, I mean, like, what's the big deal?
I'll try some dog.
I mean, why not?
Then you come back home and you're walking in Central Park and there's a guy and a woman, they got a golden retriever and he catches the Frisbee and the dog just catch it, stops, looks at you.
And you're like, why is the dog mad at me?
And then all the dogs are just like... And then you're like, why are the dogs mad at me?
What have I done?
And imagine never being able to be friends with the dog again.
alex stein
That's a sad life.
libby emmons
That would be terrible.
mike crispi
I can't be friends with sharks now that I've eaten sharks.
libby emmons
I don't think that you want to be friends with sharks anyway.
tim pool
No, sharks are alright.
libby emmons
Yeah, maybe.
alex stein
What do we think about SeaWorld?
Should SeaWorld be shut down?
Do you think that's animal cruelty?
tim pool
Yes, absolutely.
alex stein
Yeah, because their dorsal fin or whatever it's called, in the wild it stays straight, but whenever they're in captivity it always folds.
That's a great documentary.
tim pool
I have no problem with sanctuaries.
So I went to an aquarium in North Carolina where they had turtles and stuff that were gravely injured and couldn't survive on their own anymore.
And so they can't hunt.
And so they had like, it was like a 30 year old turtle with a scar, like a big scar from when it was nearly killed, but survived.
And they're like, well, if we just let the turtle go, it'll die.
So it's here, not because we're, you know, keeping it in captivity for entertainment, but because we, you know, we're going to give it food and keep it alive.
alex stein
But I am under the impression where I do think we need to have zoos.
Like, I know a couple animals, their quality of life might not be that good, but you can learn, kids can see them.
I think it is important to have, you know, zoos.
And even though it's not great for the animal, I do think it's important.
hannah claire brimelow
I feel like there are researchers at zoos, but I don't know that SeaWorld has the same kind of educational component.
It might not as far, but it's just as far as I know.
Like, I think I went to it once and it's also like a water park.
alex stein
Yeah, they have rides and stuff.
hannah claire brimelow
So it's like a little bit different, whereas, like, I agree with you.
I think there are animals that, like, we want to research.
We want to understand them.
But when it becomes purely about, like, look at Shamu swimming in the circle.
alex stein
Selling a $75 ticket.
libby emmons
But what about regular zoos?
What about, like, mammal zoos?
tim pool
Well, we have the zoo over in Catoctin, which I think is totally fine.
You know, I got no problem with that.
They got monkeys and stuff.
hannah claire brimelow
There was that whole lawsuit over the elephant at the Bronx Zoo where, like, there was a group saying because she had touched a white dot on her forehead, she had human level of cognition and therefore deserved a certain level of human rights.
And they wanted to move her to it because they were like, her enclosure's not big enough or something like that.
And I think the elephant's name was Happy, if I'm not wrong.
I had a report on the story a while ago.
But her caretakers at the Bronx Zoo were like, if that's even true, which we don't agree with, then she's lived here her entire life.
She was born in captivity.
And so if you take her away from the Oklahoma knows you're inflicting emotional distress.
alex stein
Yeah, for sure.
You know, there used to be a human at the Central Park Zoo.
It was like a pygmy.
They had a human in it.
unidentified
Really?
alex stein
Google it right now.
Human in the Central Park Zoo.
tim pool
Well look that up.
mike crispi
It was Lindsey Graham.
tim pool
Let's jump to the big news.
This is the big headline news.
How Donald Trump's close friendship with glam conspiracist Laura Loomer, 31, is threatening to blow up his presidential run as insiders say his campaign managers don't care if he wins or loses.
libby emmons
I would like to just congratulate whoever at the Daily Mail wrote this headline because glam conspiracist is really...
That is a great descriptor, you know.
hannah claire brimelow
That's her new Twitter bundle?
libby emmons
She's gonna love that.
Yeah, if I were Laura Loomer, I would put glam conspiracist on everything from now on.
I'd get a shirt.
tim pool
Look at this, this is funny.
The former president was asked why Laura Loomer, comma, who once claimed 9-11 was an inside job, comma, when?
That's so stupid.
Imagine being like 18, and then you're like, you're on the internet, you type it.
And then now you're 31.
You're like, I was just some dumb kid typing stupid things on the internet.
And they're like, but you did say it.
libby emmons
Well that's what's funny about Kamala Harris is how she talks about how her values haven't changed even though every single one of her positions has changed.
It wasn't from when she was a kid.
It was literally five years ago.
tim pool
He said, Laura is a supporter.
She has very strong opinions.
She's a free spirit.
I can't tell Laura what to do, he replied.
She flew on the plane with him to the debate.
She's not a campaign staffer.
She's not part of the campaign.
She was on this trip, but by no means is she part of the campaign in the official capacity, the campaign source told the Mail.
So you can tell it's a slow news day when they're literally running front page headline stories because Laura Loomer hung out with Donald Trump.
I do like the word conspiracist, though, to tack on to what Libby was saying.
Conspiracist.
hannah claire brimelow
Put that on a business card.
tim pool
Yeah, it sounds like she crafts them, you know?
Like, she's sitting there, like, folding paper and, like, drawing lines and making the conspiracies for other people.
hannah claire brimelow
It's her trade.
tim pool
Like, you ever ask, like, where do conspiracy theories come from?
mike crispi
Laura Loomer.
tim pool
The conspiracists.
mike crispi
Conspiracists.
tim pool
But I will say this.
I believe that the world has only yet begun to see the capabilities of Laura Loomer in generating press.
alex stein
Yeah, she's incredibly effective.
tim pool
When she's 50, she's going to be on the front page of every story all the time, 24-7, so she chooses.
Because she has consistently proven over the past eight years that when she wants to be the story, she does it.
mike crispi
You were saying that she's more effective than members of Congress, you know, and you see people coming out and they're attacking, like Marjorie Taylor Greene went crazy and she kind of started this, like Marjorie Taylor Greene and then you saw like Lady G, Lindsey Graham, and like all these other, literally all these like senators.
alex stein
Lindsey Graham?
mike crispi
Yeah, Lady G was very, I mean, he's just mad because, you know, he has an identity crisis, you know, with himself, with the hookers at the Male hookers.
But Laura Loomer, um, I think they're just, they're just jealous.
tim pool
They're bitter.
mike crispi
It's always like this snake pit, like with around the Trump orbit, everyone's trying to get in and we're trying to work their angle and they don't like it.
That Laura has been extremely effective online and that she's been able to get president Trump's ear and she's, you know, in there flying on the plane and they sold that and they spazzed out.
And I think it's just people in Congress or people who want to be close who are planting these stories about her.
unidentified
Yep.
mike crispi
Um, and they're just trying to help.
They're actually, and they're also hurting Trump, because they should be, it's so selfish when they go out and talk about it.
Every single Republican right now should be talking about Trump winning.
And this whole thing about the campaign managers not caring, it's like Trump has never been better in these swing state polls.
Again, New Jersey, my state, he's within three points.
He's within a couple points in Virginia, Minnesota, New Hampshire.
It's like he's polling better in swing states than he ever has.
So when everyone's like, oh, the campaign managers, the campaign managers Well, what exactly are they doing that isn't good?
I'm wondering what's so bad about right now where he stands in the race.
I think Trump's in great shape.
hannah claire brimelow
Do you think that the goal is to create internal chaos?
I mean, if there already is kind of a knives out environment, people are worried maybe about where this could lead them.
They want to be in the administration.
They don't want to give up their ties.
Is it sort of media pressure to make it seem like there needs to be some sort of staffing switch up just to cause chaos in the campaign?
mike crispi
Yeah, I think people want themselves and their people to be, like, calling the shots.
So, like, they throw other people under the bus.
And they see Laura as somebody who's coming in totally from left field, like, getting onto the plane, getting Trump's ear.
And then everyone just, like, kind of bugs out about it, you know?
And to Tim's point, they just, like, you know, they brand her these things and they go crazy and they gang up on her because of how effective she is.
hannah claire brimelow
Did you feel like you were kind of an outsider when you were planning the Wildwood rally?
mike crispi
Well, they didn't want me to speak.
So actually what happened was they were trying to, the local GOP people were trying to get me out of speaking.
So this is actually the true story.
They, I wanted to speak at the rally.
Uh, obviously the GOP people didn't want me to speak at the rally.
And what happened was they told Trump these things about me, long story short, told the Trump campaign that, uh, myself and Roger Stone responded to those allegations.
Trump campaign looked at what was said and looked at the facts on both sides.
Yeah, I mean, I've been the victim of it where like, you know, people don't want you to gain an edge of influence.
They tried to kick me out as an RNC delegate.
Same thing.
Mike Crispy's doing this or Mike Crispy's doing that.
And these grown men will turn into, you know, petty high schoolers and they'll Would we agree, though?
I do think the Republican Party is incredibly fractured, though.
chaos and just try to be okay he's blacklisted now so they try to do that all the time I mean
that's what's happening right now in any campaign around the country happens in the White House
Democrat Republican and as Trump said the only difference with him and the Democrats is is that
Kamala doesn't fire the people who are fighting each other and screwing up. Would we agree though
alex stein
I do think the Republican Party is incredibly fractured though you don't think so? Uh in what
capacity? Well just the fact that a lot of people hate Donald Trump and then you see a lot of the
DeSantis people are still bashing Trump I do think it is fractured and a lot of people right now are
mike crispi
I think in the party chomping at the bit that you know if they steal the election and Trump is not
successful that they will have knives out for all the people like you know me and others who are
like legitimately always been in Trump's camp since day one like the RNC types who they don't even
care about the results of the election they just care about you know keeping the paycheck flowing
and they're like liking well now there's a lot of those people I don't like either party
tim pool
I don't like the party.
alex stein
I don't like the parties.
tim pool
I just want to see proper policy and things that actually make sense, and right now the Republicans have it.
They have a lot of problems, but they have the more correct side of things.
alex stein
Well, the left is fractured, too, with all the Palestinians.
tim pool
Right, but they're nuts.
The DEI stuff, I mean, what they're proposing is just illogical nonsense, and so the Republicans are offering up something functional.
hannah claire brimelow
I think Republicans are prepared to be more fractured just by the nature of the political philosophy.
I think Republicans are much more open to libertarians, right, or they're much more open to, you know, the Tea Party movement didn't like break the party, it just kind of shows that there is a different movement.
Even the MAGA movement, there is fighting.
On the other hand, ultimately, there is some, there's an expectation that the Republican Party is constantly kind of going over its values and aware of these influences.
Whereas I feel like my impression of the Democratic Party is that their expectation for their voters is that no matter what they comply and fall in line.
They don't have to court voters the way that Republicans kind of always do because there are different perspectives within the party.
They expect compliance and that's why the Israel-Palestine issue is something they're really struggling to get over because they haven't had to compromise within themselves.
They are expecting fear and compliance and it's not really working the way they would have wanted it to this time.
When Trump went to the LNC, the Libertarian National Convention, he was like, I'm going to put a Libertarian in my cabinet.
But Kamala vowed to put a, she said she would consider putting a Republican in.
So it's not even a full promise.
And she's talking about the other major political party.
She could have said, I would entertain putting a member of the Libertarian or the Green Party in, right?
She could have appealed to independence.
Instead, the Democrats view it as us versus Republicans, and I think Republicans have a different view of kind of just the nature of politics in America.
unidentified
Maybe that's just my take, but... Yeah, I mean, I don't know.
alex stein
I think I didn't realize how fractured the left is until Ilhan Omar still won, even though AIPAC spent all that money against her.
So it kind of shows me like, oh man, maybe there is, you know, something to this.
Maybe the, you know, Palestine stuff will actually change the election.
And I hope it does.
I hope people lose support for Kamala.
hannah claire brimelow
And there are environmentalists that are really mad at both the Joe Biden administration and, in that sense, the- Environmentalists are?
unidentified
Why?
alex stein
Because they stopped fracking?
I thought they were pretty good for the environment.
hannah claire brimelow
I can't remember what it was today, but he just repealed a bunch of restrictions that environmentalists were mad about.
I mean, they staged the whole summer of heat protests this whole year.
And, you know, if you take corporate money, you know, if corporate monies are pro- Probably bad.
oil and gas, you're likely to upset environmentalists. I think that they're, again, like, Democrats
present a facade of like, we're all in this together because they ignore fracturing the
parties and it's just gotten so deep they can't.
Republicans are used to fighting amongst each other, whether that's good or bad.
alex stein
Probably bad.
hannah claire brimelow
Probably bad, but you're more prepared for it, right?
Democrats aren't recovering from the fighting with them.
tim pool
I mean, I gotta say, though, with Trump, we often say that the Republicans are the Washington
generals, the Democrats are Harlem Globetrotters, but it kind of feels inverted right now with
They're the B-team, you know?
They've got no strong, charismatic lineup.
alex stein
But then after Trump, who does the Conservative Party have?
Who do Republicans have?
With DeSantis in his high-heeled shoes?
But listen, Vivek says all the right stuff, but does he have any experience?
Do you really think he's going to be that great?
tim pool
Did Trump?
alex stein
No, but Donald Trump was a billionaire.
Donald Trump was the most famous guy on earth before he became president.
unidentified
True.
alex stein
He's much different than Vivek.
tim pool
More famous, but Vivek is also an industrialist.
500 million, fine.
He's not a billionaire.
He's halfway there.
alex stein
Yeah, but Trump had swag.
Vivek does not have the swag.
tim pool
That's true.
libby emmons
Do you think Vivek would take it?
tim pool
Vivek's a little bit sooty, you know?
hannah claire brimelow
Do you think Vivek would take the Senate seat that Vance would have to give up?
alex stein
That'd be great, yeah.
I like Vivek, I'm just saying he's not Donald Trump, let's just be real.
mike crispi
To your point, Alex, is that like, who is after Trump, you know?
If Republicans aren't successful.
tim pool
Maybe it's Alex.
mike crispi
I think maybe it could be Alex.
libby emmons
I think that is the big question because Democrats really are seeing this election as a referendum on MAGA and that entire movement itself.
So, you've had a lot of them come out and say that if Trump loses, that's the end of MAGA.
unidentified
It is!
libby emmons
And they say that there's nobody who comes after Trump.
There's no heir apparent to go.
tim pool
Trump didn't start it.
Trump is a symptom of it.
libby emmons
I agree with that 100%.
alex stein
You see, MAGA lives on if he loses.
libby emmons
I mean, there have been movements like this for decades at this point.
It started with Ross Perot, and then we had the Tea Party, and now we have MAGA.
And there's going to continue to be a populist movement in this country until they put us all in the gulags.
tim pool
This is a big mistake the Democrats keep making when they think that defeating Trump ends this.
mike crispi
True.
tim pool
And it's not because Trump... Listen, when Trump's own rally boos him, they're like, it's a Trump cult.
And then Trump's at a rally and he's like, we did Operation Warp Speed and they go, boo!
And he's like, well, okay, whatever.
It's not a cult.
It's just that Trump is a symptom of the anger felt by many Americans who were, I mean, I feel like it really came from Occupy.
I believe Occupy led directly into Donald Trump.
libby emmons
I think that makes sense.
tim pool
The media doesn't want to tell you the truth.
Occupy was not initially far-left crackpot nonsense.
And I've told Steve Bannon this, if only he came down in the early days and bullhorned, it would have been a bipartisan populist movement.
But because the right just assumed, and I think Fox News sold him out.
The narrative was that Occupy was far left.
Not in the beginning.
The far left came and took it over very quickly.
But people were angry at the Obama administration.
They were angry at the Great Recession, followed by the big bank bailouts.
libby emmons
Those were infuriating.
tim pool
And then, this is Obama.
This is 2011, this is Obama, and the Occupy movement's angry.
Obama ends up getting re-elected because Occupy's, I don't think, a big enough movement necessarily to stop the democratic machine.
But probably a large component of why Obama actually ends up winning another term is because the right did not embrace the populist anger that had festered up all across the country.
They mocked it and ridiculed it.
alex stein
This is a tough question.
Would it have been better if Mitt Romney won, knowing what we know about Mitt now?
tim pool
No, but my point is this.
After Obama backstabs everybody, so it's Occupy Wall Street, people are furious.
I remember Sean Hannity was ragging on Occupy, and everyone on the right, Breitbart, was screaming at these people, and I'm like, well, you lost it.
There was populist outrage, there were people of all different backgrounds, and the right gave it up.
Whatever, fine by me.
And then, so, Obama gets elected again.
And then everyone's just like, that's it, I'm done.
9 million people who voted for Obama switched to Trump in the next election, saying no more, none of this.
So it's not that the sentiment of Occupy is universal, but enough people who felt that anger wanted Donald Trump.
Why?
Michael Moore said it best.
He was a human Molotov cocktail being thrown into the machine.
The greatest F you in the history of mankind.
mike crispi
So yeah, the movement lives on, but you know, I think the point you're making, Alex, is that somebody in the Trump figure, like who takes it over and who's the leader of it?
I mean, you'll have 10 people try to be like the Trump figure, but no one will ever be like Trump, right?
So in 2028, you know, no matter what happens, you know, 10 people are going to try to do that.
You know, if Trump wins, JD Vance will try to do it.
I don't know if he, I don't think he's got it.
Vivek?
We like Vivek.
alex stein
Nikki Haley, dude?
mike crispi
Nikki Haley is going to jump in and say, we're done with this.
You'll have, uh, you know, so many people who are going to jump in, but nobody's going to be like Trump.
And it's like the Democrat party right now.
They don't have a, the Democrat party doesn't have a figure.
Kamala is just a puppet.
And the reason they don't fight on the Democrat party, I think is because the difference between the Republican party and the Democrat party is Democrat party is like, you know, top down controlled by a much smaller group of people who then cascade everything out.
Republicans obviously have a lot of, you know, fragmented fractures and people of influence and They reflect the populist central party.
Democrats like, it's militaristic.
Top down.
hannah claire brimelow
I think one of the challenges is that we have to move away from the mentality of who is the next Trump.
Like, no one is going to be Donald Trump.
There couldn't be, right?
But who represents the values and goals of the movement best?
And I think there are a number of candidates that could do that.
And I'm actually, what do you like?
alex stein
Yeah, who?
Name one.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, I think, again, if we're going down to the populist movement, I can't say who's going to emerge as the best federal leader, but I do think J.D.
Vance is interesting.
Do you like J.D.
alex stein
Vance that much?
Because, you know, speaking of swag, I don't think he has that much swag.
Have you seen some of these?
tim pool
He's vanilla yogurt.
alex stein
He is.
tim pool
But it's not a bad thing.
It's like, I enjoy it, but he's not, you know, razzle-dazzle sprinkles.
hannah claire brimelow
I like Andrew Bailey out of Missouri.
I think he's doing really interesting things.
libby emmons
He's doing great.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
I mean, I think that this would be sort of the blessing of former years of Trump, which is that there are people who are in the early stages of their career who could move into interesting positions.
I think that that's one of the hard things about trying to be like – But people will take the job.
tim pool
I don't see J.D.
Vance or Bailey as – look, what Trump is is a rock star.
J.D.
Vance will never be Donald Trump.
He's a good politician.
He's a good speaker.
And I don't mean to insult him by saying vanilla yogurt.
I'm saying he's a very ordinary in the political sense.
hannah claire brimelow
Universally appealing.
tim pool
What I mean to say is he does really well.
He's great at what he is and what he represents.
And that's probably why Trump chose him.
He's a stabilizing force of normalcy.
But people want celebrity.
alex stein
I agree.
tim pool
The Democrats have nothing.
Republicans have, like, morsels.
After Donald Trump, who has the pizzazz?
I don't know.
hannah claire brimelow
See, I think that just emerges over the next four years.
Like I said, if you're looking for an exact replica of Donald Trump, it'll never happen.
But four years is a long time.
I think you will see personalities developing.
And in contrast with the Democrat bench, they are divided over major issues.
And on top of that, you know, they're like they tout out like Max Frost, the congressman from Florida.
He's really young.
OK, cool.
You're trying to argue that you guys have the youth movement.
You have the youngest person in Congress.
AOC has been around for a while and I think she could probably get re-elected to her district, but she'll never have national appeal.
alex stein
You don't think so?
I think that she's the third most popular politician behind Trump and Biden probably.
hannah claire brimelow
I don't think she could win the Electoral College.
I mean, I think people like her in the way that... How would she campaign in Iowa?
alex stein
I don't know.
unidentified
People say it's so crazy, but I do think that... That's because you feel a certain level of affection for her.
mike crispi
There's a little more to it.
alex stein
There is a little deeper connection, but I honestly think that I think that AOC has a very big chance of kind of taking over the party.
Maybe I'm naive when I say that, but I do think that she's popular.
I think that even though she's crazy, I actually respect her more than some conservatives because I do believe that she believes what she says, and she's not as two-faced as some people.
She is consistent.
mike crispi
She voted against the trading thing.
She wanted the members of Congress not to be able to trade stocks.
AOC was championing that.
unidentified
I think she's more popular than Kamala Harris, believe it or not.
hannah claire brimelow
I could see her hanging out like Nancy Pelosi.
As far as I know, Nancy Pelosi never ran for president.
I don't even know if there was an exploratory committee for it ever.
unidentified
I think she was pretty happy with her insider trading.
hannah claire brimelow
I think AOC will stay in Congress, but I don't You know, to leave that behind and shift to a different sphere, like the executive branch, it's not what everyone wants to do.
And I also think with the MAGA movement, because it's so populous, you have to start looking at state governors.
State governors get to say, well, I'm not in Washington.
I stood here and fought for my state.
And as much as there are like interesting members of Congress, like Thomas Massey does all kinds of interesting things.
Thomas Massey's great.
Just my personal theory is that the MAGA movement will actually look for AGs and governors to lead that, like, fresh-faced charge that Trump, as a billionaire businessman, also could say, I'm not part of this institution.
alex stein
Well, we talk about Nancy Pelosi stock trading, but I believe right now the person who's benefiting the most from the stock exchange and insider trading is Dan Crenshaw, who's a conservative Republican.
So if he's, like, next in line, we're totally— No, he's done.
mike crispi
He's the worst.
libby emmons
He's sort of much more on the establishment side, isn't he?
alex stein
Yeah, of course.
I mean, he's the biggest neocon ever.
mike crispi
I patch McCain.
alex stein
He's terrible.
But yeah, I don't know.
I guess I don't want to try to be so blackmailed.
There probably will be somebody that's cool, but nobody's gonna have the swag of Donald Trump.
libby emmons
But nobody's gonna have the swag of Donald Trump.
I mean, nobody has had the swag of Donald Trump going back to the 1980s.
unidentified
Look at Trump's swag for decades.
libby emmons
He was swagging back in the last century, for goodness sake.
alex stein
But, okay, a lot of people will talk about how Trump did The Apprentice, and then right after that, Mark Cuban, who's actually obsessed with Trump, he did a show called The Benefactor that tried to rip it off and it failed horribly.
tim pool
Yeah.
alex stein
So if you watch, and then he, Mark Cuban, went and did Shark Tank because he already attached himself to a popular show because he wanted to have a popular show.
So I just do think that if Mark Cuban, maybe he pretended to be conservative or more moderate, he could be the next... I'm not saying that is going to happen, but I mean... Nah.
You don't think that's possible at all?
tim pool
Maybe the problem is we need to stop comparing people to Trump because there will never be another Trump.
alex stein
Yeah, that's true.
tim pool
And so if you just imagine Trump right now, I want you to imagine in your mind Donald Trump's at a rally and then all of a sudden an alien ship comes, beams him away and just leaves.
And then everyone's like, he's gone.
It's like Republicans have several people who are smart, articulate, prepared, and the Democrats do not.
mike crispi
True.
Kamala Harris.
libby emmons
Yeah, that's how they ended up with Kamala Harris.
They had nobody ready.
alex stein
Joe Biden's brain dead and he became president.
tim pool
Well, it's a machine versus a people, right?
Trump is not running against Kamala Harris.
He's running against the system.
mike crispi
Exactly.
The same system, by the way, that has enabled and propped up Biden.
I mean, literally, you know, Trump could have said that is that, you know, everything that Kamala stands for, it's the same apparatus.
It's the same people.
Nothing's going to change.
The people just move over to Kamala.
She's a figurehead.
tim pool
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
And I think the, again, the MAGA movement has really defined a lot of like the directions that voting Republicans, not necessarily people who are part of the establishment, but like Americans who consider themselves Republican, want to see the country Move into I think the Democrats have kind of rejected any similar effort like they were so against Bernie Sanders They were so against RFK.
They don't want to redefine their values They kind of want to stay as is and get caught vaguely get vaguer and also more progressive without anyone challenging them I just don't I think they are the you know for all the infighting and fracturing on Republican side of the ticket I think it benefits them because they have to constantly reevaluate.
Well, what are the voters asking us for?
Not are we?
What are we asking the voters for?
alex stein
Don't we know it's a uniparty, guys?
I mean, don't we know that?
hannah claire brimelow
I just think the two-party system won't last forever.
tim pool
Well, Trump is attacking the uniparty.
I think it's done.
There will be something else.
There will be an apparatus.
There will always be some kind of machine.
But I think what we're looking at now The military-industrial complex machine is aging out with the last generation.
The internet changed everything, and they're cornered, they're desperate, and they're lashing out because of it.
alex stein
Well, we're talking about the election, but what about World War III?
I mean, don't you think that we're gonna probably have to fight a war with Iran?
tim pool
Well, how about we jump to that story?
We got this one from CNN.
Russia will be at war with NATO if Ukraine long-range missile restrictions are lifted, Putin warns.
And it's sounding like they're gonna do it.
I think it was Trudeau who just came out and said he's in favor of lifting the restrictions?
libby emmons
Yeah, and it was the UK.
It was Keir Starmer.
tim pool
Keir Starmer and Trudeau for sure, though, right?
libby emmons
I don't know about Trudeau.
I only know about Keir Starmer.
I believe Trudeau, because he's such a little pansy man.
hannah claire brimelow
I believe Keir Starmer, because then Russia was like, get out of here, British diplomats!
libby emmons
It was Starmer.
Trudeau supports... I'm not surprised.
tim pool
...Ukraine striking Russia as US-UK leaders talk weapons.
libby emmons
Well, who's running the country for the United States?
tim pool
Here we go.
Says, can strike deep into Russia with NATO arms.
Putin hints at war.
libby emmons
Yeah, so this is...
tim pool
Hope it was worth it, everybody.
Hope it was worth it for all of you.
libby emmons
This is something, though, going right back to the beginning when you had Joe Biden say he made several promises.
One was that U.S.
weapons, NATO weapons, would not be used to strike deep into Russia.
We wouldn't be sending tanks.
No F-16s.
He promised, I think, no cluster bombs.
And then there was another one.
What was the other one?
No U.S.
troops on the ground.
Well, we have guys in Ukraine already.
tim pool
We have actual special forces.
libby emmons
Actual special forces.
We have, you know, even though Kamala Harris said during the debate that we don't have anybody in an active war zone, that was a huge giant lie.
We used the cluster bombs, the tanks got sent, the F-16s.
This is really the last one.
This is the last one.
Putin at the beginning said, you know, he said at one point, if you are backing Ukraine and giving them weapons, we're not going to take that as a sign of war.
But if your weapons strike us inside Russia, we will take that as a sign of war.
tim pool
But I am kind of at the point where I'm starting to wonder whether or not Russia can actually retaliate, because this is not the first time we've questioned this on the show.
Russia keeps saying the red line is there, and then NATO crosses it, and then he backs up and says, well, the red line is there, and he's not doing anything.
mike crispi
Yeah.
Nord Stream pipeline, obviously, the drone attack at the Kremlin.
I mean, all of these things have pointed to the fact that we have been doing this.
I mean, I just think it's becoming more overt.
tim pool
So I think that, yeah.
The drone attacks were massive.
I think, like, weren't there civilians and things?
libby emmons
Yeah, there was a woman who was killed the other day.
mike crispi
So they have been, like, really—obviously the Nord Stream.
You know, originally they said Russia, because Putin's such a madman, he blew up his own pipeline because he wanted to freeze out the Germans in the wintertime.
Like, it just was such an unbelievable farce.
So we have been doing these things, and I almost think it's just purely rhetoric.
Like, you talk about World War III, you talk about the timing before the election, before the show we were talking about October Surprise, like, what will they do?
And I think October Surprise could very well be World War III.
And we've already been in this thing where, like, we're fighting and doing things that are against what we're saying, but now I think they just, like, legitimize it in the media.
Now we're at war with Russia, so we all need to come together behind our wartime leader, Kamala Harris, you know, for the future sake of humanity. They always say like you know
throughout war the country comes more together and all that other nonsense you know
libby emmons
during the George Bush time. So I think that a World War three beginning would be
a benefit for Kamala Harris's chances of winning the election. I think it's
mike crispi
crazy to me how much people still believe the Ukraine lie.
Like at the beginning, like in 2022, I remember I was talking about that and people were saying that I was crazy.
You know, I, at the time I was running for Congress, 2022, I went on Tucker and I was talking about the Ukraine thing and I got all these, this hate mail for speaking badly about Ukraine.
You're a Republican.
We stand against the Russians in this.
And I'm just like, no, it's a total scam.
I mean, you know, Ukraine is nothing more than a, you know, it's a satellite for, you know, CIA and, and the, you know, things that we fund overseas.
So, you know, Ukraine is just a corrupt hellhole dating back to 2014 when Newland and these people overthrew the, you know, duly elected government there.
And it's just been on the decline ever since.
They're using it to get the war done.
It's just a proxy, you know?
So I think they're going to start the war.
Kamala is going to make, look like a wartime leader.
Oh, Kamala, look, Look, you say she's not capable.
libby emmons
You think she could look like a wartime leader?
mike crispi
They're going to try everything.
tim pool
I wonder if they're trying to provoke a more direct conflict with Putin just before an election.
mike crispi
To make her look tough.
tim pool
I wonder if Putin is trying to avoid escalating the conflict because he's hoping Trump wins.
libby emmons
Interesting.
mike crispi
That too, I think.
libby emmons
Why do you think he would rather have Trump win over Kamala Harris?
tim pool
Trump's going to try and stop the war overnight.
libby emmons
So you think that would- Kamala Harris is the deep state, she's gonna say- You think Putin wants to get out of this war at this point, but he doesn't- No, no, no, no, Putin wants to take the territory of Ukraine.
unidentified
I just got a text message from somebody in Russia, they said I have to play this right now.
tim pool
Vladimir Putin wants to take the Donbass, he wants to take the land bridge, he wants to seize back, he wants to maintain control of that whole region because Sevastopol is a massive industrial center, access to the Black Sea.
Trump wants the war to stop.
The deep state wants to crush Russia and wipe them out.
The deep state shutting Russia down in the Black Sea cuts off a major source of their economy, a major function of their economy with oil and transport through the Black Sea to the Mediterranean.
So, this is what Russia... They're going to take Ukraine.
You're not going to stop them, so long as it's the case.
Trump winning is him going, what do we have to do to end the war?
Putin says, here are my demands.
Trump says, I don't want World War III.
Literally don't care.
Whatever.
And so that's why the media has maintained and the Democrats, Trump is giving Putin what he wants.
mike crispi
And there was a deal in place before all this, like it was Boris Johnson and it was Biden who were like stifling the progress.
I mean, literally you had images of Putin and Zelensky meeting together and everyone says RFK Jr.
actually exposes it very well, like the deal that they signed.
I think it's called Minsk Accords, right?
Is that what you pronounce it?
They had a deal on the table and Boris Johnson and Biden at the time or Biden's people were squashing it.
tim pool
The West wants to eviscerate the economy of Russia to weaken them as a global player.
alex stein
Well, aren't they running out of soldiers at this point?
I mean, the fact that they're recruiting, like, 60-year-olds to fight, well, aren't both sides running out?
tim pool
Ukraine's recruiting young women.
mike crispi
Yeah.
libby emmons
Oh, that's not great.
tim pool
And old men.
alex stein
Did you see the video of, like, an autistic soldier?
tim pool
Recruit, sorry.
Conscripting.
alex stein
But did you see that they have, like, people with autism on the front lines?
mike crispi
Yeah, in Ukraine.
hannah claire brimelow
You're just being ableist.
You're so rude.
alex stein
Actually, people with autism probably are good soldiers, but that's neither here nor there.
It's just very scary.
tim pool
I think the Democrats may be thinking we need to provoke this war for escalation as part of the election, or at the very least, initiate a conflict to which Trump can't negotiate his way out of, so that way it's forced, and Putin might be like, Once Trump gets in, I'll be able to negotiate.
mike crispi
It's kind of like COVID.
I mean, when did COVID start?
Conveniently, when Trump was on his way to a resounding re-election, the economy was humming, everything was good, no new wars, then they dropped COVID and all they talked about in the debates was COVID, COVID, COVID, COVID.
It's like there's so much more.
tim pool
Well, the funny thing about COVID was that when the story first broke, you'd get demonetized for talking about it.
libby emmons
Yeah, that's right.
tim pool
That was weird.
I remember it was January of 2020, and this Wuhan thing happened.
I made a video about it, demonetized, and my YouTube rep was like, we don't want anyone talking about this.
It's fear-mongering, blah, blah, blah, or something like that.
And then three months later it was, okay, now you can talk about COVID.
libby emmons
Well, and it was, if you talk about it like it's not a big deal, now you get demonetized.
tim pool
Yeah.
Now it's the most serious thing ever.
libby emmons
It was like the super switch.
unidentified
It was so intense.
libby emmons
I remember I had a little file of stories and I was like, once this stupid COVID thing blows over, I'll do all these stories.
And I never did any of the stories because it never blew over.
mike crispi
That could very well be the World War III.
Like, you know, they're timing it up.
Obviously, war is a little bit different than a flu.
So I think they wait, they might start that, the country's at war, it's all people talk about, they put the machine in thing, they make Kamala the president, Biden steps down in exchange for Hunter Biden, you know, being let off on whatever he just pled guilty to.
I mean, you can see that happening, and they're like, oh, Kamala's the first woman president, look how strong she is, madam president, madam president, and then they ride that propaganda into November.
hannah claire brimelow
I think that's I think Americans would face a confidence crisis if Kamala Harris suddenly had to take over for Joe Biden and we were on the brink of World War III.
I don't think people think that she is strong enough as a personality to handle that kind of thing.
I think they want to like her.
They want a woman president.
They want to be progressive, but ultimately the base fear
that she doesn't have it would win out.
alex stein
But Hannah Clare, right now, everybody knows that Joe Biden's not running the country.
Everybody will basically admit that we don't have a president now.
mike crispi
So who would handle it?
alex stein
I think they would be happy if we broke.
hannah claire brimelow
I think right now people aren't happy with Joe Biden.
Democrats didn't want to vote for him.
And I think that they want to feel cultural and societal pressure to like Kamala Harris, but I
don't, I mean, I don't think she does.
Otherwise, they would have her everywhere.
They would put her on every interview.
She would go on whatever the current equivalent of Oprah is.
They would never ever be anywhere, but you would see her kissing all of the babies.
And instead, she's sort of cloistered away, and they bring her out every once in a while when they can super control the environment.
mike crispi
She's less likable than Hillary, and that's saying something.
alex stein
I don't know about that.
mike crispi
It's close.
alex stein
It's close.
hannah claire brimelow
I thought Hillary's speech at the convention was better than Kamala's.
alex stein
Oh, Hillary's bad.
I mean, it's a low bar, but like Kamala— Lolita Express, and you're looking to, you know, we don't
want to say some other stuff, but yeah, I mean, Hillary's very unlikable.
And those pantsuits aren't very flattering, and— Kamala wears the pantsuits, too.
I know, but I don't get it.
hannah claire brimelow
And she wears the dark drab colors.
I mean, she doesn't— Kamala looks kind of—she looks kind of good at the debate,
alex stein
though.
Like, she had her neck done.
I'm saying she looked like they spruced her up a little bit.
libby emmons
Yeah, I think she did do something to her neck.
But, I mean, Nikki Haley would have been out there in coach pumps and a skirt.
alex stein
Nikki Haley's attractive.
libby emmons
You know, yeah.
tim pool
She looks better in it.
But Nikki Haley, when she talks, her teeth don't move, but her lips do.
libby emmons
Yeah, that's weird.
alex stein
I've never noticed that, but I believe it.
tim pool
When she talks, she talks like this.
Her lips are moving, but her teeth are not.
And I'm like, I don't know.
I just can't.
People are like, Tim, stop commenting on a woman's appearance or whatever.
But I'm like, but I noticed that because it's like, Comment on everybody's appearance.
Well, no, no, this is the Uncanny Valley, right?
So you guys know what the Uncanny Valley is?
alex stein
Of course, yeah, it's like how they make AI exactly like that.
tim pool
No, no, no, no, they can.
The issue is that there's this scale of anxiety when you have, on the far left of the graph, you have total cartoons, and on the far right you have perfect realism.
When you have a cartoon character, we're totally fine, we have no anxiety, we're like, whatever, cartoons are fine.
Then you're getting more and more realistic as you move to the right.
Then you get this pre-advanced CGI and comfortability drops all the way to the bottom.
Something about A human being that is slightly not correct gives us fear and anxiety, and that's the uncanny valley.
The reason it's called the valley is because once you get back into totally realistic robotics or CGI, people go back to being comfortable.
There's a funny meme about it.
They said, the Uncanny Valley implies that at some point in human evolution, there were beings that looked almost just like humans, but were somewhat off, and they were a threat to humans, resulting in this anxiety response.
libby emmons
That's fascinating.
I want to read a book about that.
tim pool
The point is, when I see Nikki Haley and I'm watching her on TV, and her mouth, her lips are moving, but her teeth don't move at all, it's like... She's a lizard creature.
alex stein
We're worried about AI, and I've said this on the show before, you know, all these telecommunication companies, they spend billions of dollars in research trying to make it so when we call a call center that we think we're speaking to a human, And they actually do tests on how long it takes for a human to realize they're talking to a robot.
And humans can always figure it out, Tim.
Like, they still have not perfected that technology where we can have a conversation with a robot and we can't— Isn't that the Turing test?
Yeah, I think that's what it's called.
But I'm saying we can always—sometimes, you know, it takes a minute to figure out it's a robot, but we always eventually figure it out.
tim pool
Okay, so here you go, right?
Affinity and human likeness.
So you can see, like, industrial robots, people are like, whatever, I don't care.
And then if it's moving.
A humanoid robot, you're like, oh wow, this is really cool, I like it.
But once it gets too, like a zombie, it's like too, a corpse, it's too close to being real and people are like, ugh.
And then once you get to a healthy person, you're like, okay, I'm feeling better now.
And that's the uncanny valley.
And so the meme about it is that something existed in the period of human evolution that was a facsimile of humans, but were a threat to them.
And so we generated a fear response to it.
libby emmons
Yeah, I love that theory.
I want to read a speculative fiction book about that time period in human evolution with the scary not-people.
hannah claire brimelow
Scary not-people?
libby emmons
I think that would be a really good story.
alex stein
I'm looking at a band or a crew puppet.
These things are freaky as hell.
Yeah, I just had to Google that too.
libby emmons
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Those are weird.
unidentified
Wow.
alex stein
Yeah, I don't know.
I mean, AI is obviously a huge threat.
You know, these AI memes, you brought that up earlier, Mike.
Do we like the AI memes?
I mean, I guess I'd like to see AOC in the, you know, in the thong or whatever they do.
I think that's kind of entertaining, but I don't know if I really do like them, if they're as good as like a normal meme.
tim pool
They're gonna get, it's gonna get nuts.
It's crazy to me that we're already, these AI videos of the cats marching as soldiers with weapons.
Dude, the AI video a year ago was, it looked like a nightmare.
alex stein
It looked like... Yeah, Will Smith eating pasta.
tim pool
Yeah, I know.
Now, just some random guy, like, cats with guns marching, and then you get it, and they're wearing MAGA hats.
The crazy thing is how fast AI was able to figure out language.
Because a year ago, you couldn't get words.
You'd be like, make me a book cover, and it would say like... Now it's perfect.
Now you can go on Grok and say, make me a picture of a cat holding a Trump sign, and it does.
So we are...
A year or two away from procedurally generated movies.
It's gonna be crazy.
mike crispi
And it's a huge problem, I think, in elections, because a lot of people who are on the older side see it online, they see it on Facebook, and they think these things are real.
I mean, I've had it happen where, you know, people send things and they're like, oh, this is whatever, I saw this on Facebook, and it's AI, it's not real, but they don't quite get it.
I think that's unbelievable.
alex stein
Yeah, you know, it's really weird though.
You think AI, when we talk about like these puppets and dolls, like sex robots, a lot of times like, you know, pornography is what encourages a lot of like, you know, advances in technology.
And then you see that, did you know that OnlyFans creators made more money than the entire NBA combined?
libby emmons
I saw that.
I saw that.
tim pool
Women want to do this, man.
libby emmons
And it was like 29% increase in content creators on the site as well.
tim pool
Women want to sell their bodies to men for money.
And I'm not trying to be crass or mean or crude and say every woman is doing it.
I'm saying there are a large percentage of women who don't want to be nurses, don't want to be doctors, they want to be hookers online.
So we have all these stories, all of these stories of women like, I was a doctor, I quit, I do OnlyFans.
libby emmons
That's so distressing because we actually need doctors.
unidentified
We don't need more porn models.
tim pool
Look, if you told me the choice was a doctor who would rather be a porn star...
Or wait another 40 minutes.
I'd rather just wait for a doctor who's really passionate about their work.
alex stein
Yeah, but Libby, it's funny you talk about doctors.
You know, they're getting rid of doctors.
And in the future, you're going to go to a hospital and you're going to have a doctor that's just online.
And they're going to say this is better.
libby emmons
Or it's just going to be a robot.
alex stein
Basically, yeah, it'll be like a robot.
But there'll be a screen and they'll tell you, well, you're getting diagnosed by five doctors.
There'll be like five doctors.
libby emmons
It'll be AI.
It'll be like all telehealth.
alex stein
Yeah, it will probably be all AI.
libby emmons
It'll be AI telehealth.
Just like the mental health is AI now.
Just like I keep getting these things on.
tim pool
It's not going to be telehealth.
It's going to be, you're going to walk in the bathroom and go, uh, check GPT diagnosis.
And it's going to be like assessing your latest health metrics.
I've analyzed your stool and urine samples.
I think you may have high blood pressure.
Try having three eggs for breakfast instead of five.
Five is a lot of, a lot of eggs.
Maybe you gotta cut them down.
libby emmons
Three is sort of a lot of eggs too.
tim pool
But imagine the person in the mirror is a 220 pound ripped dude.
Okay.
libby emmons
Okay, that's hard for me to imagine if I'm the one looking in the mirror.
tim pool
He's a guy and he's like, I don't know, maybe five eggs is a bit much.
Perhaps cut down to three.
hannah claire brimelow
I would see these reports of like AI is better at detecting like breast cancer and mammograms.
And I feel like, oh, that's cool.
That seems like a good use of AI or like, I get why people are saying like, Like the prosthetic limbs or stuff like that, but I'm kind of with you with the meme stuff.
Like I feel like once you open the box, once you make it a little bit okay, it's going to start to go off the rails and it does feel different than like the meme energy of 2016.
They feel like completely different things to me.
I wouldn't have even called them AI memes.
I would still think of them as just AI images.
But of course, that's sort of the function they're playing in this election.
And so again, like, when there are moments with health, I'm like, okay, this could be a great tool.
But then I just, I think it's all likely to be corrupted.
And I don't want to open the box.
libby emmons
It will not just get corrupted, it will get corrupted to the detriment of, you know, all of us, because it will be like, You know, this AI, based on your latest health metrics, like Tim was saying, you probably have pancreatic cancer.
That is a very painful condition.
Would you like an appointment for euthanasia?
tim pool
No, no, no, no.
hannah claire brimelow
No health insurance for you.
libby emmons
That's too expensive for your health insurance.
Your employer does not want to pay it.
tim pool
The ideal scenario, I don't want to just be totally negative on what the AI is going to do, because there's a strong possibility that it's going to say, you're going to go in your bathroom, you're going to go to the bathroom, and then as you're getting up, the AI is going to go, Libby, I ran a check on your stool sample.
Now that's how they used to talk.
It's going to be like, hey Libby, doctor here, I checked your health, and it looks like you have markers closely related to possible pancreatic cancer.
The good news is we caught it very early.
If you add this vitamin to your diet, we think it can reverse this.
What the crazy thing about AI health is, doctors can't see when they'll do a scan, and they can't see a single cancerous cell.
They can see clusters and things like this, but the AI is going to be like, after analyzing 342 million people who suffered from this particular cancer, we've identified several markers that can show us the pattern which leads to this ailment.
You are now two years away from developing pancreatic cancer.
Add more kale to your diet and you will push this off by 10 years.
libby emmons
Do you think it'll be nutrition though?
hannah claire brimelow
I feel like it won't be nutrition.
I think it'll be like, you should really get this drug from the arm of that.
libby emmons
It'll be like, we will send it to you.
You can inject it into your shoulder.
tim pool
But now we're just talking optimistic versus pessimistic.
libby emmons
Right, but I think that they will also leak into mental health because it already has.
There's like AI mental health bots that you can subscribe to on Instagram along with the AI boyfriends.
alex stein
Do they do therapy for you?
libby emmons
Yeah, it's like AI therapy.
tim pool
You know what I think's going to happen?
libby emmons
Which I think is also a bad idea.
tim pool
We develop to a point where education becomes non-existent.
So think about having calculators in your pocket.
You know, teacher always used to say when I was a kid, you're never going to have a calculator in your pocket, learn your math.
libby emmons
Now we have a computer that is better than the computer that took people to the moon.
tim pool
And you don't even have to type.
You don't have to type.
You can pick your phone up and you can just say into it, answer me this and it will.
It can translate things.
If that trend continues, the future I imagine is People will have kids.
The kids are going to be using calculators, which will be the AI.
They will be navigated by the AI.
They'll become adults.
After a few generations of this, people will be mindless completely.
They will have their headsets on or their bone conduction earpiece, and the AI will be talking to them rapidly through like a neural link, and the humans will choose to do it.
The same way we use calculators and don't do math in our heads anymore, people will be standing there with the Neuralink on, and they're gonna think in abstracts like, I'm hungry, and the AI's gonna go, go get food and eat this and make this, and they're just gonna go and do it.
libby emmons
Yeah, I think that that is a possibility.
And in fact, education is already largely driven by AI.
There's all kinds of programs.
All the kids have Chromebooks.
The Chromebooks are given to the schools, school districts for free.
And they come like loaded with these different programs like IXL for math, and there's some other ones for ELA.
And the kids are supposed to like go through and the AI determines what level they're at and what math problems to do and all of that and what their score is.
And teachers don't really do anything except check the score. I just want to point out that at what
tim pool
point do they start adding the percentages for you on receipts? Have you noticed this? I don't like
libby emmons
that. I prefer doing my own math.
tim pool
And the receipt they give you says 10%, 15%, 20% and the numbers are next to it. You can check a
box or just write in the number. Because when I was a teenager in my early 20s, it would just say,
you know, tip total. Yeah.
And a lot of people still do that, but now most places I go to, it'll give you the percentages for you.
It'll say, write in this much.
That's what you're giving to your server.
You don't have to do the math anymore.
alex stein
I was on a Frontier Airlines flight, and I bought a Coca-Cola.
That was my first mistake, going on Frontier.
And I actually took a picture.
I should have shared it.
But they gave me a tablet to use my card, and I could tip the flight attendant.
I almost lost.
I'm like, who's going to tip a flight attendant?
This is insane.
mike crispi
A lot of people do it, though.
They make a lot of money from just adding the hour.
alex stein
I know, that's what I'm saying.
You know what's funny?
I think I did hit it for a dollar.
mike crispi
You felt bad.
alex stein
I felt bad.
tim pool
I like this one.
At the casino, at the cage, when you're cashing out your chips, there's a tip jar.
alex stein
Yeah, of course.
tim pool
That's weird.
alex stein
Yeah, but that's not that crazy.
libby emmons
I was just having this conversation with a friend of mine, and I think that the practice of tipping should only be for the restaurant servers where they have that less than minimum wage restaurant wage.
tim pool
Or we just get rid of minimum wage and just people can work for what they want to work for.
libby emmons
Yeah, sure.
If you want to go to California, by all means.
But a lot of servers get like $2.35.
What?
tim pool
They have a very high minimum wage in California.
libby emmons
Yeah, and then there's, you know... Oh, you're talking about the illegal immigrants who don't pay wages?
No, I'm talking about how there's a restaurant minimum wage.
It's like $2.35.
tim pool
I said get rid of the minimum wage.
libby emmons
Right, so then you don't make anything.
tim pool
Well, you force the employees to actually start learning how to do business again.
libby emmons
Well, perhaps.
tim pool
Perhaps?
libby emmons
What do you mean?
There's laws about, like, you can pay restaurant workers less.
You're saying, like, don't have those laws.
tim pool
I'm saying get rid of minimum wage.
libby emmons
Just entirely.
tim pool
Yeah.
So why is it that an employer who can't negotiate a proper pay, like, this is government intervention in the market that doesn't work, because what ends up happening is The short-term Democrat position is, but then people are going to get paid $2 an hour, look at what's going on, only because you've enabled it.
So what happens then is they go, we have to raise minimum wage to $50.
Remember in California?
libby emmons
Right, it's like $20.
tim pool
Because people don't know how to negotiate and demand what they're worth.
So maybe the market should just be allowed to determine the value of services, goods, and labor, and people might have to actually go, I ain't working for two bucks an hour, bye.
And that actually happens to a certain degree now with Gen Z and Millennials not wanting to work at all.
alex stein
Yeah, but then you get replaced by an illegal immigrant, right?
I mean, somebody's going to do the job.
tim pool
And that's why I'm not a libertarian, because I don't agree.
The libertarians are like, open borders and no minimum wage.
And I'm like, flood the labor market and put no restrictions?
I think that's a crazy idea.
But I'm saying we should have migration protections, help stabilize the economy.
And then when you have a burger joint and they're like, would you like to work here?
We'll pay you five bucks an hour.
They go, nah, but we need somebody.
And there's a shortage of workers.
Pay me 15 bucks an hour.
It's like, all right, fine.
alex stein
Yeah, but there's like minimum wage job.
People don't have negotiation power or leverage, you know, because they can't be replaced so easily.
So I don't know if that works.
libby emmons
Well, it also used to be that minimum wage jobs were for people just entering the workforce, like these were entry level positions.
We don't have a lot of that right now.
tim pool
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All right, anyway, did I just promote something?
I can't, I don't know.
Polly Puree says, am I first?
Indeed you are, congratulations.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
Everyone's clapping.
libby emmons
That was fun.
tim pool
Let's grab some more.
Pokeman says, God bless Alex.
alex stein
Oh, thank you, Pokeman.
tim pool
Logan Miller says... No, it says Pokey Man.
It's two different words.
Logan Miller says, Tim, is this the underground network alternative communication?
That's a reference to Anti-Flag.
They are anti-nationalist far leftists.
But I was a big fan of their music when I was younger, until I realized what they were actually singing about.
libby emmons
What were they singing about?
tim pool
Look up Anti-Flag, look up Culture Revolution, look up Panama Deception, look up underground network.
Underground Network's a good song.
It's literally saying the mainstream media is lying to you and stuff like that.
That's cool.
alex stein
Well, I know, Tim, you as an artist, I guess you like to have a message in music.
But, like, I listen to rap music all the time and it doesn't make me want to, like, shoot up, you know, like a gang.
tim pool
When did I ever say that would?
alex stein
Well, I'm saying, but does the message of music, like, that makes you not, even if the song is good, if it does have a bad message, you don't like it anymore?
tim pool
I think songs, it depends on how overt the message is.
alex stein
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, if a song is glorifying crime and violence and creating a culture of it, yeah, it's a bad thing.
alex stein
Well, you know, that's a conspiracy too, is that all of these record labels invested in the private prison industry,
and that's why they create music that encourages people to have a life of degeneracy and shooting and stuff,
tim pool
so they can fill up the private prison industry.
alex stein
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
tim pool
The CIA, they've all been... It's not about private prisons.
It's about the CIA was looking for ways to destabilize various countercultures.
And so you look at Public Enemy and 80s hip hop and rap.
And then you look at what turned into in the 90s.
You had the police and turn it up, bring the noise.
There wasn't always a big message in it, but sometimes there was.
And then in the 90s, it just became like, make money, screw a bitch, make money, screw a bitch, and just becomes as degenerate as possible.
So there's no real, you know, there's no real feeling anymore.
alex stein
Yeah, you know, they, like, supposedly, I think it was Tavistock that did this, but you know that they actually have melodies and frequencies that they know are pleasurable to the human ear, and that's why they're able to repeat hits, and that's why they say, like, Taylor Swift has so many hits, because they can use these, like, chords that they know are pleasurable.
tim pool
But, but, there are YouTube videos on this.
Yeah, well, like, you can, like, these, there, there are producers who are like, hey, here's how you make a pop song, and they literally explain how to do it.
It was funny, remember the, um, There was a guy who made a YouTube video talking about the periods of songs, and there was one where all of these songs had like a hey-oh-hey in it, like some kind of like that, and they were like, you could notice all of the songs do the same melody shift.
alex stein
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, they were all basically one hit song, repeated 50 different times in different genres, and then blasted out at once.
alex stein
Yeah.
tim pool
There was a really funny video where they took the top three country songs of the past three years and played them all over each other, and it was one song.
alex stein
That's it, really?
tim pool
It was like, they overlapped perfectly in tempo, in pitch, in different lyrics.
You know, different chords, but they were in the same key with the same structure, so they could overlap with no problem.
And they were just interchangeable.
unidentified
Because, like, there is, uh... Remember... Music's over, dude.
tim pool
The AI stuff is insane.
libby emmons
Yeah, I hate it.
alex stein
Yeah, they do make good music, and it makes it in, like, one second.
That's what I don't understand, is how it does it so quick.
But you remember Gangnam Style?
tim pool
That was, like... Gangnam Style?
That was fabricated.
alex stein
That was the biggest deal ever.
tim pool
That was the manufacturers.
alex stein
Exactly!
I'm just saying that they can do that, where they just make something that everybody likes.
tim pool
Well, Gangnam Style was a legit song written by Psy, but the promotion of it, it was not organic.
alex stein
It was not like... That song was great, though.
tim pool
Oh, and as I said, Na Pal Baji is Psy's best song, but they didn't promote it the way they did Gentleman or, you know, Daddy or whatever.
And so they produced... I'm just, you know, I'm disappointed.
unidentified
What, that they didn't give Psy more... No, no, no, Psy had a bunch of billion hits.
tim pool
I'm saying they chose the wrong song.
alex stein
Gangnam Style was great, dude.
Everybody liked that song.
tim pool
Yes, I know.
I'm saying Gangnam Style is good, but then they chose Gentleman and I think instead of
Na Paul Baji.
alex stein
Na Paul Baji is- Is that a good song?
tim pool
I don't remember.
Exactly!
alex stein
What are you doing over here?
I feel like I may have heard it, but I just, I mean, I'm a Gangnam Style stan.
tim pool
Na Paul Baji is Gangnam Style level.
alex stein
Oh wow.
tim pool
Right.
It's the music video, The Silliness, it's making fun of late night talk shows and him
being famous, whereas like Gentleman is just, I don't feel, I feel like it didn't have the
alex stein
Remember Call Me Maybe?
mike crispi
Yeah.
alex stein
That song had a stranglehold on society.
mike crispi
It did.
tim pool
Did she have any other songs after that?
alex stein
I don't think so.
Carly Rae Jepsen, Rest In Peace.
hannah claire brimelow
I think she does have other stuff.
alex stein
She does?
libby emmons
I thought she had like a whole career and stuff.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex stein
I didn't know she was still around.
hannah claire brimelow
And the other one that I was thinking of was, had that song about like, it's Friday or whatever.
mike crispi
Yes, I was just thinking that.
hannah claire brimelow
And I think she has a career now too.
tim pool
She does, yeah.
unidentified
She's huge.
tim pool
Very famous.
That's the other thing, too.
People don't understand one-hit wonder isn't necessarily a thing.
Do you know which band was a one-hit wonder?
It was... What's that song?
alex stein
Millie Vanillie?
tim pool
No, no, no.
Who... What are the words?
Let me... Not Millie Vanillie.
They had a bunch of hits.
alex stein
And then they were caught not being actual singers.
libby emmons
Lip-syncing, yeah.
And they really lamented that because they were like, we wanted this thing, they didn't let us.
tim pool
Sucked out.
Super drag.
You know that song, Sucked Out?
libby emmons
No.
tim pool
Who sucked out the feeling from the 90s?
That was a true one hit wonder.
Because they literally had nothing else.
But what people don't realize is like, I remember someone told me Gotye was a one hit wonder.
Because he had somebody that I used to know.
You know that song, right?
But he's actually got tons of hits.
It's just that somebody that I used to know was so big, everyone knows it.
And then they're like, oh, he's a one hit wonder.
And it's like, no, you just don't listen to that genre because he has a bunch of big hits.
hannah claire brimelow
And he's not, isn't he Australian?
Like, yeah, he's really big.
There are artists that have one hit in America, but they're actually very established wherever they're like, And then people are like, I only heard the one song from them, so they must not be big.
tim pool
And it's like, no, no, it's not just that.
It's that, um, what's, uh, what's the Loverboy was, was big, but they didn't really, I don't know if they ever had any top tens or anything like that.
And so, but they had a bunch of hits.
So it's like, what would you rather be?
Your band had one big song that everyone heard and then everyone forgot about you, or you had 50 top forties, but they were all like number 20.
alex stein
I don't know, if I could have Call Me Maybe or just kind of a good career, I think I would go with a big hit.
tim pool
I think you're better off having a sustained career.
alex stein
Financially, yeah, I think that is probably better longevity, but I think that it'd be cool to have a song that was like the number one song for like... You know what band is great?
tim pool
Foreigner.
alex stein
Foreigner's great, yeah.
Foreigner's incredible, but...
Are bands any good anymore?
Are there any bands?
I used to tease Creed, now I love Creed.
I don't listen to it that much, but it's funny how they're actually a Christian rock band.
tim pool
What's that song by Lil Nas X, Old Country?
alex stein
That was a huge hit too.
libby emmons
That was a big song.
tim pool
Old Town Road.
hannah claire brimelow
That felt like fake to me, that felt like an industry thing.
alex stein
It felt fake, but everybody played that song everywhere.
tim pool
No, no, no, you gotta understand, I can tell you exactly how this works, because we work, we do music industry stuff.
Taylor Swift, manufactured, 100%.
She makes good songs, they're great pop songs.
alex stein
Scientific.
tim pool
But no, it's just simple.
The label goes to Apple, Amazon, and Spotify, and Pandora, and they say, You know that people are gonna be looking for our star, and they want this music, and you're gonna get a lot of requests for it.
If you want us to put this song on your platform, you have to put other artists in the same rotation.
libby emmons
Oh, sure.
I don't think that's unreasonable.
tim pool
Well, so it manufactures the hits.
libby emmons
Yeah, it does, but I mean, I think publishers do that.
You also have to stock some of our other books.
tim pool
My point is that- Well, you guys remember Payola?
alex stein
They made it illegal to basically- Right, right.
tim pool
My point is that it's not that very rarely is a song so good that people share it with everybody and then it organically grows.
You're going to be like, oh, I heard that song and I really like it.
Well, it's because they made you listen to it.
So you turned on your app, you put modern hits, and then you heard a song and you're like, who is this band, why is this song in rotation?
And so there are some big bands right now, singers and artists,
and I'm like hanging out at Charlestown races, and I hear this song on the Bigsbyger,
and I'm like, interesting, this song being played right now in rotation in a casino
has like 200,000 views on YouTube.
It is a nothing song that no one wants to play, but it's on rotation for everybody.
And that's because the label's gonna be like, we're gonna give you Taylor Swift,
and then here's the other artists that you have to put in the rotation at the same time.
alex stein
Yeah, they do that.
libby emmons
Didn't they do that with radio stations, too?
Like, back in the day with records?
tim pool
Paola is illegal, and I don't know if that qualified as Paola.
Paola was consideration in exchange for airtime on radios.
It's illegal to do.
libby emmons
Interesting.
tim pool
Yeah.
And that's crazy, it's like, you can't, they wanted requests, and they had to choose real song?
I don't know, it's weird.
Alright, let's go.
Paul Teskelo says Democrat mayor of Houston, Texas admits their crime stats were manipulated.
An audit revealed a 264,000 case backlog including 4,000 essays.
HPD blamed it on a lack of personnel.
This is the result of the defund the police movement.
alex stein
And COVID, because they couldn't do a lot of trials.
That happened in Dallas as well, where they just threw a lot of cases out because they just didn't have, like, the infrastructure for the judges and yada, yada, yada.
They just couldn't prosecute the crimes.
mike crispi
And the crime stats, they just omit big cities.
alex stein
Yeah.
mike crispi
Like, just add it to a new category.
Like, oh, the crime is down.
You know, Kamala said that.
And Trump said, oh, that's not even real statistics.
It's because they just omit the big cities into its own category.
hannah claire brimelow
And some of the cities didn't report.
libby emmons
Yeah.
mike crispi
They just won't report it.
hannah claire brimelow
They were like, no, we're just going to hang out.
unidentified
It's fine.
mike crispi
New York didn't report.
Exactly.
hannah claire brimelow
You can't have a true study on crime in America.
New York isn't reporting it.
libby emmons
It's a major city.
Or Philadelphia, you know.
alex stein
Yeah, well, don't they always say that, you know, like the gun violence statistics are basically propped up by suicides?
Yeah, like self harming.
That's why a lot of the when you talk about gunshot violence is a lot of it is people actually shooting themselves.
libby emmons
How awful.
tim pool
It is, yeah.
All right.
ALZX says, I'm from Springfield.
For over a year, FBI put up billboards on Route 41 that says, report hate crimes in English and Creole.
They know what they are doing.
Wow.
libby emmons
Interesting.
mike crispi
All right.
tim pool
What do we have here?
Adrian Contreras says, my cat went out and got an AR and a MAGA hat.
Little guy is ready to rumble.
mike crispi
Cats for Trump.
tim pool
Vasht says Springfield is directly north of Middletown of Hillbilly Elegy fame.
I'm sure they all worked at the steel mill.
That steel mill is still operational as far as I know.
Interesting.
hannah claire brimelow
There's another company that's moved into the area that I can't even remember the name now but a lot of mainstream media is like, well it's good because there are jobs and other people to take the jobs.
It's revitalizing this part of Ohio.
tim pool
Everett Strucker says, Tim, they're doing this in the trucking industry too.
Learn what they need to say to pass the CDL test.
Can't tell you how many OTR drivers can't speak English or read signs.
That was one of the issues.
Remember that guy who was going downhill and lost control and slammed into vehicles and killed a bunch of people and went to prison?
Then they pardoned him and he got like a lighter sentence or something?
libby emmons
Yeah, that was crazy.
tim pool
It was because my understanding is that he wasn't trained properly.
And then people watch a video of it and they're like, there's the emergency runaway truck runoff.
And they're like, why did he go past it?
And it's like...
Probably didn't know what it was.
He did not know what to do and he panicked because trucking is, you know, not, it's a profession.
It's like, you got to know how to do it.
Operate those big rigs.
alex stein
What about that guy in Springfield that said that he wishes that his son was not murdered by a Haitian?
tim pool
He literally said that he wishes his son was murdered by a six-year-old white man.
That was in Springfield?
alex stein
Yes.
libby emmons
And that it was a Haitian illegal immigrant rammed into a school bus and killed his son.
mike crispi
And then he literally said, I wish it was a white guy, but here we are and I'm going to vote for Kamala anyway.
tim pool
But this is important because people need to get the quote right.
He says, he got up at the podium and said, I wish my son was killed by a 60 year old white man.
libby emmons
That's right.
tim pool
End of sentence.
And then he stops.
Because a lot of people keep adding things to what he said.
And I'm like, so end of wokeness put instead.
They wrote the word and said they added that word.
I'm like, that diminishes what he said.
Tell the people what he actually said.
He said, he got up at the podium and he stood there and said, I wish my son had been killed by a six-year-old white man.
I know many of you probably think it's shocking to hear someone say that.
alex stein
Yeah.
To say the least.
libby emmons
It's horrifying.
alex stein
Yeah, I mean, can you imagine being that brainwashed, though?
libby emmons
And as part of his speech, he was saying how he didn't want his son's death to be politicized as he politicizes his own son.
alex stein
Speaking at a public meeting.
libby emmons
Yeah.
Really, I mean, I feel for all of the people who are suffering from, you know, these kind of crimes.
tim pool
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Fair?
No.
Fair or no.
That'll never happen.
The purpose of the debate, and Trump walked into it.
Kamala was like, I'll do a debate with you, Trump, so long as it's in hostile territory to you.
And they're going to rig it so that it benefits me.
And Trump was like, I can handle it.
alex stein
And they build me a podium that's smaller and makes me look, you know.
tim pool
Yeah, because he said one of the rules is you can't stand on boxes.
So they said, well, there's no rule against smaller podiums.
hannah claire brimelow
I hope that podium gets sold at public auction.
tim pool
But let's be real, if they had the same size podiums, it would have destroyed her campaign.
alex stein
You think?
I mean, you do think it would have had that big of an effect?
unidentified
2%?
alex stein
Yeah, maybe.
I don't know.
tim pool
Her looking there, all super tiny up at Trump and Trump towering.
alex stein
He should have just made his really small and then he would be like huge, you know?
mike crispi
Optics matters.
Also, they never show them at the same time on the screen, not split screen, but them at the podium.
The way they shot it with the angle, there were a couple and the podiums almost looked That's something I think that we know against Hillary.
I think they showed it like the wide shot and Trump looked so much bigger and more like presence.
tim pool
What if Trump did the handshake thing?
You know the handshake thing he does?
Where you grab him and pull him in?
alex stein
Did you think that was weird?
Because that was a big criticism and I know we're going back to the debate, but how he kind of walked behind the podium and that handshake was awful.
tim pool
He wasn't going to shake her hand.
mike crispi
He wasn't expecting it.
tim pool
She sought him out to do it.
alex stein
No, I wonder.
They probably obviously told her to do that.
I wonder what that was.
Was that to like try to emasculate him?
hannah claire brimelow
And she's trying to be the unity candidate.
tim pool
It was presidential.
She was told, you have to be calm, collected, and get him angry.
So you have to go out there, shake his hand.
alex stein
Imagine if he would have done that.
He just sort of stuck his hand like that.
tim pool
And he went like that.
alex stein
Dude, everybody would have died.
hannah claire brimelow
I liked his, I liked his, have fun tonight.
alex stein
That was so funny.
hannah claire brimelow
He's like a dad in a sports team, have fun tonight, calm, like, okay.
unidentified
And then if he turned to the camera and went like that.
alex stein
Dude, that would have gone so viral.
tim pool
They did what?
libby emmons
They shook hands at the 9-11 memorial the next day.
tim pool
That was actually really great.
I like that a lot, where at the memorial, they're all standing together, everyone's smiling, and I'm like, man, you know, America, right?
I liked it.
Now I hope Trump wins.
But it's good to see, you know, people are standing there because 9-11 is more important.
alex stein
Dude, I love that video of Joe Biden putting on that Trump hat.
mike crispi
I like that he got bullied by the people.
They're like, oh, you old fart.
Put it on, you old fart.
I'm like, this is the commander in chief and he's getting bullied by these kids and this old guy.
tim pool
He handled it masterfully and it was the best moment of his career and I respect him for it.
He was like, he's like, he's like, Biden's like, you want to, you want to autograph?
And he's like, sure.
Can you remember your name?
And he's like, no, I forgot.
unidentified
I'm old.
alex stein
Yeah.
tim pool
And then he's like, yeah, you're an old man.
He's like, I am an old man.
He's like, and you would know that, wouldn't you?
And the guy's like, what?
He's like, you would know about being old.
He's like, yeah, I'm old.
And I'm like, that was actually funny.
And then he's like, now I need your hat.
And the guy's like, you can put it on.
He goes, I won't go that far.
And then he looks around and then he puts it on and everyone cheers.
And then the guy says, what did he say?
I'm proud of you.
mike crispi
I'm proud of you.
tim pool
That was the best moment of his career.
mike crispi
You old fart.
That's what he said.
I'm proud of you, you old fart.
tim pool
That was the best moment of his career because it was fun, it was silly, and if that's the kind of campaign he'd been running the whole time, he'd have been up a couple points.
If he was being nice and being relaxed... I mean, like, when you come out and lie about Trump, you lose moderates.
You can be honest about Donald Trump and say you disagree with him, and that's what RFK was doing.
mike crispi
I think he's off the drugs, he's disaffected about Kamala, so he's just like, screw it.
hannah claire brimelow
He doesn't have to maintain that Trump is the worst thing in the whole world and everything's going to fall apart.
Because again, that's the DNC's campaign strategy for the last three, four campaigns now that they've run.
And I think it's funnier to see Joe Biden be like, meh, we're just moving forward.
It's more disarming to people who are so supportive of Trump.
alex stein
Even though he is basically senile, I think he's smart enough to realize that maybe he does want Trump to win because then he can say he's the only person that beat Trump.
unidentified
I think so, too.
hannah claire brimelow
He's totally in legacy preservation mode.
mike crispi
Deep down.
alex stein
He's old.
He doesn't care.
So Trump becomes president, that's going to affect Joe Biden's life whatsoever.
mike crispi
For a couple months.
alex stein
I mean, seriously.
He's going to go to Delaware and relax for the rest of his life.
mike crispi
Good point.
Deep down he wants Trump to win.
alex stein
I think so.
mike crispi
100%.
He wouldn't ask that MAGA hat.
alex stein
He knew that if he put that on, it would cause chaos.
tim pool
Alright, we got an important one here.
Cisco says, Tim, can you talk a few minutes about that sweet cardboard crack behind you?
Love the show.
Thanks for all that you do.
Greetings from Chile.
Why yes, as I pivot, you can see this fine display.
Where's my hand?
How do I do this?
Right here.
These bad boys, these are all dual lens.
And these three are not in sleeves.
And Alex sent, he hit up Boogie, and he was like, take a look at this.
And then Boogie was like, he should be slapped for that.
alex stein
Yeah, because you didn't even put a penny sleeve on it or whatever it is.
tim pool
The Duelands are very rare, expensive Magic the Gathering cards.
And you can see down here at the bottom, that one, that is an Alpha Lightning Bolt.
I think they go from, like, depending on the grade, it could go from around $1,000.
So this is Ian and Mai.
It was at first banned cards.
And so we got this case and started putting cards in it.
One of them is called Cleanse.
And what the magic card does is it says all black creatures are destroyed.
Magic the Gathering banned that card for being racist.
alex stein
Yeah, this is after the fact.
libby emmons
Like Jaguars?
alex stein
Do you have the Illuminati card game though?
tim pool
I think it's in a box somewhere.
So in Magic the Gathering there are five colors of magic.
But it's like what you'd read in a fantasy book.
There's white magic, black magic.
alex stein
White magic is good magic, right?
tim pool
Magic the Gathering is representing something relatively... Let me explain.
So there's green, blue, red, white, black.
Black represents ambition, meaning you're willing to sacrifice anything to get what you want.
Typically cards that are black represent paying life, like sacrificing your own life to get an outcome in the game.
And does not represent race.
That's stupid.
White represents like honor, law, and loyalty.
So white tends to be angels, soldiers, civilization, humans.
Blue is control, illusion.
Red is passion and aggression.
Green is life and growth.
So to ban a card in the game because it says destroy all black creatures and they call that racist is the stupidest thing imaginable.
These people have gone nuts.
mike crispi
It's like when they wanted to ban monkeypox.
tim pool
They said it was racist.
mike crispi
I'm like, nobody thought I didn't even create a racial correlation.
Then they changed to mpox.
tim pool
But I will add to another card in there at the bottom you can't see is called unholy strength.
And it's a guy with a pentagram burning behind him.
And he's like, you know, tilting his head back.
And that actually got removed from the original set because conservative Christians Thought that it was satanic, demonic imagery being sold to kids.
So when they reprinted it, they removed the pentagram so it's just unholy strength or whatever.
That being said, we got a ton of magic cards over here too.
Al's taking pictures and showing Boogie.
alex stein
Boogie loves it.
tim pool
He's so excited.
alex stein
He's a legend of magic.
He's like the OG Magic the Gathering content creator.
tim pool
Alright everybody, if you haven't already, smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show, become a member at TimCast.com.
We're going to be back on Monday.
It's Friday the 13th.
So of course, Alex and I, we're going to go push our luck.
alex stein
Let's see if we win some money.
I'm going to hit a slot machine for $125,000, I predict it right now.
tim pool
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mike crispi
Yeah, on X Mike crispy at Mike crispy on X. Thanks for having me, Tim.
alex stein
Oh, pimp on a blimp primetime with Alex Stein.
Watch it on Blaze TV, YouTube, wherever you can, you know, get the show you can get primetime 99 24 seven.
So please watch it.
Thank you for having me, Tim.
libby emmons
Sure.
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Check it out.
I'll see you guys sometime.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
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