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tim pool
Hunter Biden has pled guilty to three felonies and other charges in the tax evasion case.
Big news, we'll talk about this.
The new polling, the new prediction from Lichtman, the professor with the key to the election, says...
Kamala Harris is going to win.
Nate Silver, on the other hand, says Trump has a two-to-one chance to win, so they're at odds in this case.
It's going to be particularly interesting.
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What was this?
The COVID fraud?
libby emmons
Yep, that's right.
COVID-19 fraud.
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Rep.
Chris Lonsdale.
unidentified
Happy to be here.
So I'm Chris Lonsdale.
I'm a state representative for House District 38 in Missouri.
So that's the Kansas City suburbs.
tim pool
Right on.
Well, should be fun.
Thanks for hanging out.
unidentified
Thanks.
tim pool
We got Libby hanging out.
libby emmons
I'm Libby Emmons.
I'm here with the Post Millennial.
I'm glad to be here tonight.
hannah claire brimelow
I'm glad you're here, too, and you have no connections to the mob.
Just want to make that clear to everyone.
Libby strongly denies any implication he's tied to the mob.
I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlow.
I'm a writer for SCNR.com, Scanner News.
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tim pool
Here we go.
From the post-millennial, Hunter Biden pleads guilty to three felonies, other charges, and tax evasion case.
Biden's lawyers first attempted to enter an Alford plea.
Which would have seen Hunter Biden plead guilty but maintain his innocence.
His attorneys later agreed to a standard guilty plea after an exchange with prosecutors.
According to the Daily Mail, Judge Mark Scarcey told the President's son that he could face a sentence of up to 15 years in prison and a $1 million fine once convicted of the three felony and six misdemeanor counts.
In entering a guilty plea, Ab Lowell said his client did not want to cause more difficulty for the family.
Your Honor has basically indicated that there's a need to address the public interest, but Mr. Biden also has to address the private interest.
This has been a difficult time for him and his family.
Enough is enough.
They attempted the Alford plea, which we read in the subhead.
Special Counsel David Weiss alleged in the indictment that Biden engaged in a four-year scheme to not pay at least $1.4 million in self-assessed federal taxes he owed for tax years 16 through 19, from in or about January 17 through about October 15, 2020, and to evade the assessment of taxes for tax year 2018 when he filed false returns, blah, blah, blah.
Very, very interesting.
Libertarians are probably screaming in defense of Hunter Biden because he's been charged on gun rights and taxes.
And of course, libertarians are very much on the other side of these things.
But Libby, you had a good point as to why he took this plea deal and why it's going down.
So what up?
libby emmons
Yeah, so I was kind of thinking that maybe he took the plea deal now and got the conviction out of the way so that there's still time for his father to pardon him before he's officially out of office.
hannah claire brimelow
But Corrine Jean-Pierre came out today and said, no, Joe Biden's sticking with what he said in Delaware.
He's not going to pardon him.
It is interesting because you would think, and I heard a couple other analysts talking about this today, you know, it's his only surviving son.
He doesn't have a political career after this.
So why wouldn't President Biden just go ahead?
libby emmons
Yeah, and like, it wouldn't be the first time that the White House has gotten Joe Biden's motives and plans wrong.
I mean, the White House told us repeatedly for months and months and months that
Joe Biden was going to stay in the race, that he wasn't going anywhere,
that he was definitely planning on, you know, continuing his run for presidency.
And that was all upended by Joe Biden one Sunday afternoon, who just casually said that he wasn't going to do it.
So, you know, I think there's every reasonable expectation to believe that Joe Biden would pardon his son.
And, you know, this may be a hot take or whatever, but I think I think that's probably what that's what I would do.
He's gonna do it. I would do it. Yeah, I think he's gonna do it.
hannah claire brimelow
I think the Alford plea play was actually the most interesting part because that is an acknowledgement that there is enough evidence against you that you will be convicted and the prosecutors were resistant to this.
They were saying like, he committed crimes, you shouldn't let him get away with this plea and there was resistance and ultimately he had to just plea guilty.
Do you guys remember that sweet plea deal he had for a while?
Where it was like, You can't charge him with anything else.
They had rolled the tax evasion and the gun charges together, and now he's pleading guilty without any agreement on the table.
He's facing 17 years in prison.
tim pool
I don't think he'll get that, but... Why are they charging?
Why was he charged?
libby emmons
Why was he charged?
tim pool
Yeah, why was he charged?
libby emmons
You mean, like, why did they finally get around to charging him after the IRS agents for years were like, hey, maybe there's something going on here?
tim pool
Yeah.
libby emmons
I think they did it so that it was like almost to run cover for all of their other charges so that they could say, like, see, we're not charging Trump politically.
We're also charging Hunter Biden, you know, which that's a big part of it.
And also, I think that Hunter Biden was the you know, was the guy who was determined to get thrown under the bus like he was the one who was You know, set up by the family.
Somebody had to take the fall and it may as well have been the guy who was already looking pretty bad in the public eye.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
libby emmons
I think he's being thrown under the bus in part to protect his father.
Yeah.
Because because the House still has, right, like the House has an impeachment investigation open.
unidentified
And I can see him being kind of the sacrificial lamb.
And then also, you know, the FBI, all these agencies are like, see, you know, we're not partisan.
We're not weaponized.
You know, we go after both sides.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
unidentified
We clearly know that the Hunter Biden treatment is not even on the same level that they've treated Trump.
hannah claire brimelow
When Biden came out, you know, however many months ago and said, no, I believe in law and order in this country.
And if he is convicted, I'm not going to pardon him.
You know, I think that is part of the attempt to save the Biden legacy because they are really known, I think, by both sides as a somewhat corrupt or somewhat shady family.
I mean, I don't even think Democrats Because with Hunter Biden, it wasn't just the Burisma stuff.
It wasn't just his connections to to owning that gun.
But he's, you know, he's acknowledged very publicly in his memoir that he's an addict.
You could have sympathy for that, but he does treat the people around him pretty terribly.
And then there was all of the coverage of the legal battle over his daughter, Navy, who he wasn't acknowledging.
Joe Biden wasn't acknowledging.
And so in some ways, I think Being able to sort of summarize Hunter Biden's crime as being like, it's the gun thing, it's tax evasion, we're not going to talk about anything else is the Biden family attempt to sort of to lock this up and move into like gold plating Joe Biden's legacy.
tim pool
We do have another story too, which we'll get into later in greater detail, but It's the, it's a, it's a DOJ public, it's the, it's the chief DOJ guy for public affairs in, in New York saying that they are engaged in lawfare against Trump.
He's, he's in a private setting saying like, it's a travesty of justice what they're doing to Trump.
They're going after him.
And so without getting into too much of that, because we'll get into it later.
What we're looking at with Hunter Biden very much just feels like a, see, we're going after the Bidens too.
Yet we're all wondering why Jack Smith is still so adamant about going up, getting Trump indicted in the superseding indictment pertaining to documents, but Joe Biden is not being charged in this regard.
libby emmons
Yeah, I mean, that is a very dodgy situation where Robert Herr, we talked about this the other night, where Robert Herr said that Biden was essentially too sympathetic, that no jury would convict him.
But the circumstances of the absconded documents are so incredibly different in those two cases.
You know, like, on the one hand, Biden wasn't entitled to have them at all.
They covered it up.
Merrick Garland went as far as to, you know, refuse to comply with congressional subpoena, which is absolutely insane.
And then his staff at the Department of Justice said that they were not going to charge him, even though charges were recommended by the House.
Right.
I mean, and then one thing that happened, too, was you had and Anna Paulina Luna was really interesting in this regard.
You had Garland come out and say, you know, if I'm going to be congressionally subpoenaed to and be forced to turn over documents as part of our investigation, that's going to be a problem because it will prevent witnesses from feeling in the future that they could trust the Department of Justice.
But you equally had Luna saying if congressional subpoenas have no teeth, Then Congress can't do any investigations.
And pretty much all the GOP has right now is the ability to do investigations and their necessary investigations.
They're bringing Andrew Cuomo in next week to discuss the, you know, COVID nursing home deaths.
I have a whole lot of things that we could say about that.
You know, they've been bringing people in to deal with the impeachment.
They've been investing, you know, impeachment investigation.
They've been dealing with the Weaponization of Justice Committee has been doing some really incredible work.
You have Jim Jordan out there with the Facebook files.
Literally uncovering, you know, government collusion censorship on social media platforms.
This is what's been going on.
So yeah, I mean, I think Garland probably should have been arrested and charged and tried for I love Merrick Garland.
Yeah, he's your favorite.
I know.
tim pool
He's a good guy.
hannah claire brimelow
One call from the FBI.
tim pool
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
He's attractive and handsome.
Accomplished.
libby emmons
Well, you know what, though?
Here's the thing is no one is above the law, as your buddy Merrick Garland likes to say.
He is very fond of saying that, except he apparently believes that himself and his boss, big guy Joe Biden, are above the law.
tim pool
Yeah, he should be in jail.
Merrick Garland should be in jail.
It's not personal.
It's that you're in contempt of Congress, and that's what we do.
libby emmons
There's this crazy thing called due process, and every American is entitled to it under the Constitution.
Lawyer up, Mr. Garland.
That should be what's going on, but it's not.
hannah claire brimelow
Part of it is that he sees himself as the law.
Like, there is no reason to challenge him because he is the arbiter of what is okay.
libby emmons
He is the top cop in the country, for sure.
And I think we're seeing that, you know, with a whole lot of Department of Justice things going on this week.
You know, there's the RT thing.
There was the 32 internet domains were seized.
You know, the doppelganger domains, they were seized.
I opened up my Department of Justice emails that I get because they send out press releases about every case, and I scroll through them to see what could be good stories.
Those things are packed the past couple of days.
They are chock full of things.
hannah claire brimelow
Yesterday was crazy for them.
libby emmons
Yeah, it was like four pages of, you know, press releases about convictions and trials and charges and all kinds of things.
tim pool
Yeah.
Kind of crazy.
libby emmons
Yeah.
And it's kind of like, also, maybe Merrick Garland knows that his time is coming to an end.
tim pool
That could be it, yeah.
libby emmons
And he's gotta, he's gotta, like, clean the, clean his, I don't know if docket is the right word.
tim pool
We are, we are what, 60 days?
61 days?
libby emmons
Something like that.
tim pool
61 days, yeah.
61 days, man.
That's crazy.
And to be fair, it's not even 61 days because early voting starts, what, a month out?
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
tim pool
So when it comes to this idea of an October surprise, it very well may be Coming any minute.
unidentified
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
And it is turning the news cycle.
I mean, we talked about this after Joe Biden announced he was leaving.
The news cycle was dominated by how badly he had done in the debate.
And then it was the assassination attempt in Butler.
The only way the DNC was able to get control of that was by swapping out their candidates.
Then it became all about who is Kamala Harris?
What is she doing?
Who's going to be your VP?
Who are these people?
All the way through the DNC.
And now we get this moment where it could start to turn to be critical.
And instead, the federal government is like, Here's 27 different press releases about things that we could have been talking about all year, but instead for some reason we never did.
Like, fascinating.
One of the things that came up yesterday was the DOJ announced that they're investigating two prisons in California for the sexual abuse of female inmates.
Which, why now?
Why didn't you start this in January?
What have you guys been doing?
libby emmons
Who are they alleging has been abusing them?
hannah claire brimelow
It looks like they're saying officers, but I had the same question.
I think you did, which is like, are you saying other inmates that might biologically be male?
libby emmons
Perhaps because there is an inmate who is I think going on trial for, he's a man, he's owned a woman's, in the woman's estate, and he has been amazingly abusive.
hannah claire brimelow
It happens in a lot of states, but again, like, the DOJ has suddenly thrown a lot of stuff out there, and that is what the news cycle is focusing on.
Now, as someone who talks about the news, it is sort of nice to not have to talk about the election constantly, all the time, 24-7.
On the other hand, if you're an effective government, why wait?
Why did Merrick Garland choose now versus, you know?
Six months ago for some of this stuff.
tim pool
Well, speaking of the election, on to the next story from CNBC.
Harris will beat Trump, says election prediction legend Alan Lichtman.
And this is interesting, ladies and gentlemen.
Nate Silver currently has it for Trump.
That could change.
Lichtman currently has it for Kamala Harris.
This doesn't make sense.
Lichtman predicted accurately that Donald Trump would beat Hillary Clinton and they made fun of him.
They were like, you're crazy.
He went through his prediction model and said, Hillary Clinton is going to lose.
And the media laughed and said, she can't lose.
Are you nuts?
Now Lichtman is predicting that Kamala Harris will win.
The only time he was wrong is when he predicted, I think it was Al Gore, was going to win.
He predicted Al Gore.
unidentified
That's right.
tim pool
But then it wasn't a normal election, considering how it turned out.
So some say, since the 80s when he began this model, he's never been wrong.
2000 was an anomaly, so we don't count that.
Maybe you should.
I kind of feel like he's full of it.
Let me show you.
So they say, The results are in.
The Democratic presidential nominee, Kamala Harris, will defeat Republican rival Trump in the November 5th election, according to the historian named the Nostradamus of presidential elections.
In his latest election prophecy, he, an American professor, blah blah blah, is predicting Harris is going to win.
The Democrats will hold onto the White House, and Kamala Harris will be the next president of the United States, Lichtman said in the video.
At least, that is my prediction for this race.
His forecasts are based on a historical index model he dubs the keys to the White House.
The way it works is, there are 13 true-false statements.
If 6 or more of the statements are false, then the challenger in this case, Trump, is predicted to win.
Here are the keys and his determinations.
I gotta say, before I read, actually, let's do this.
I'll read the keys of the White House.
It is 1.
Party mandate.
unidentified
2.
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No primary contest.
unidentified
3.
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Incumbent seeking re-election.
unidentified
4.
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No third party.
unidentified
5.
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Strong short-term economy.
unidentified
6.
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Strong long-term economy.
unidentified
7.
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Major policy change.
unidentified
8.
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No social unrest.
9.
No scandal.
10.
No foreign or military failure.
unidentified
11.
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Major foreign or military success.
unidentified
12.
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Charismatic incumbent.
unidentified
13.
tim pool
Uncharismatic challenger.
Now, his determination is that only three of these statements are false, therefore Trump cannot win.
But let's go through his assessment.
Party mandate.
After the midterm elections, the incumbent party holds more seats in the U.S.
House than it did after the previous midterm.
False.
That's good for Republicans.
Contest.
There is no serious contest for the incumbent party nomination.
unidentified
True.
Woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah.
libby emmons
Yeah, I think you're onto something with this one.
tim pool
Dean Phillips, RFK Jr., and you had a bunch of other kind of rent—Marion Williamson.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, there were primaries that said, not Joe Biden, right?
libby emmons
Like, there was all this contest over— Yeah, that's what I'm referencing.
unidentified
Even the whole thing with the uncommitted voters.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So this was very seriously contested.
RFK Jr.
was running for the Democratic ticket.
They blocked him from it, so he turned independent.
libby emmons
They filed lawsuits against him in every state.
tim pool
Which a funny point he brought up is they kept suing him to keep his name off the ballot.
Now they're suing him to keep his name on the ballot.
libby emmons
Right.
tim pool
How about that?
So he said, there is no serious contest for the incumbent party nomination.
True.
That's false.
There was a serious contest for it.
It was a matter of huge contention how they handled the primary to keep people out.
So maybe his argument is, it doesn't matter.
All that matters is the primary didn't happen.
Perhaps his argument is, his model is not based on whether or not people were challenging him.
It's based on whether or not there was an actual election where the incumbent almost lost.
libby emmons
So basically he's saying that because the incumbent party was so powerful and used lawfare so effectively, there was no primary challenge.
I guess.
tim pool
Which doesn't make sense.
If the argument is...
When there is a serious primary contest for the incumbent party nomination, it shows disdain for the current candidate, and many of those people won't vote.
We absolutely have that in RFK Jr.
So let's continue.
Not to mention, the incumbent party victor of the primary is not the candidate.
Let's make that clear.
The guy who won the primary is not the candidate.
So this is weird.
Incumbency.
The incumbent party candidate is the sitting president.
False.
Seems strange because it's... Right.
hannah claire brimelow
It is false, but this whole model seems to not acknowledge the fact that she is actually part of the incumbent administration.
I mean, it works as if when they don't want her to be, when it would benefit the model, she isn't, and when it would hurt her or help her, like, you know, it kind of goes back and forth whether she's a part of this or not.
tim pool
But look, we'll read it verbatim.
She is not the sitting president.
I don't know how many times that has happened.
And I don't think ever.
libby emmons
No, I don't.
tim pool
The sitting president.
Well, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
That's wrong.
During elections where the president is termed out and the vice president is running, like, say, Al Gore or whatever, then this clearly becomes the issue.
So let's just say fine.
We'll give him the false.
It benefits Trump anyway.
There is no significant third party or independent campaign.
I'll actually agree that's true.
Short-term economy.
The economy is not in a recession during the election campaign.
True.
Full stop.
Are we in a recession?
unidentified
If it feels like it, it's not officially a recession.
tim pool
Exactly.
So this is the question.
If you go around and ask people, as even Don Lemon did, Who are you voting for?
They say Trump.
He says, why?
He was in Atlantic City and they're like, the economy.
And Donald Trump's like, no, the economy is good.
Well, people don't feel it.
So the question is not, I think, I don't think you can say, are we in a recession?
I think the question is, do people feel bad economically?
Because it's the economy, stupid.
libby emmons
Yeah.
The other thing, too, is I was reading a report this morning.
Groceries hit like an all time high in July.
tim pool
What did?
libby emmons
Groceries.
tim pool
Prices for it.
libby emmons
Prices for groceries.
tim pool
And people can feel it.
That one's fine.
That's an economic academic statement.
I have no problem with that.
economic growth during the term equals or exceeds mean growth during the
previous two terms. True. That one's fine. That's an economic academic
statement. I have no problem with that. The short-term economy, I think, would
likely be false because people are feeling the heat.
But you know what?
We're not in a recession, so I'll give that one.
So let's just say this.
So far we have 1 is false, 2 is false, 3 is false.
We have 3.
So there's 3 more.
Policy change.
This one's fascinating.
The incumbent administration affects major changes in national policy.
True.
What?!
Kamala Harris is not offering any change!
The Inflation Reduction Act already happened.
The policies that they've proposed, they've enacted, what change would they possibly bring about as the same administration?
I think what he's playing here is he's treating this as though the vice president taking over is as if a two-term president is termed out and an ambitious VP is taking over.
It's the same administration.
libby emmons
Yeah, and also the one thing that where I would say that they are attempting to affect change isn't actually working, and it's certainly not working in any sort of public way, which is they're trying to pull back on this border after letting in, you know, I think even the New York Times says 9 million people over the past couple of years, and Marjorie Taylor Greene says 20, right?
So there's a big difference, but they're trying to affect some kind of change with the amnesty program.
They put a pause on their parole program to allow in, you know, 30,000 extra people per month from, what is it, like Venezuela, Nicaragua, Cuba, and Haiti.
And they're trying to do that, but it's not actually working because you still have, you know, a lot of reports of crimes committed by illegal immigrants, like really violent ones, you know, child rape and things like that.
tim pool
Do we all agree that's false?
libby emmons
Yeah, I think it's false.
tim pool
He said true.
I believe if Kamala wins, it is stagnant, same policies, the war advances, the border doesn't change, she's the borders are.
He put true.
That makes literally no sense.
There's no major change in national policy should she win.
unidentified
False.
tim pool
That's four falses.
Two more and Trump wins.
unidentified
And talking about the immigration, it's like when you look at the Biden administration, they're essentially playing a shell game where every time you see, oh, well, immigration, illegal immigration or visas are going down.
Well, they're just routing it through a different legal process.
So it's like immigration's not going down.
They're just playing a massive shell game, moving these numbers around.
tim pool
All right.
So eight, social unrest.
There is no sustained social unrest during the term.
I don't know that we have sustained social unrest, so I'll call that true.
That's fine.
This is my favorite.
hannah claire brimelow
I would argue we are close to sustained social unrest with the Palestine stuff.
tim pool
Oh, actually, fair point.
hannah claire brimelow
You know what I mean?
libby emmons
They're back on campuses, like the first day back on campus.
unidentified
And they're protesting him and Kamala.
tim pool
Okay, so that's five false.
That's a good point.
They've been protesting nonstop all year.
unidentified
And I want to say, what was it, like 100,000 Palestinian protesters in Chicago at the DNC?
Yeah.
Like, just watching the videos, it was shocking to see just the steam.
tim pool
Oh yeah, so absolutely I was wrong on that one.
unidentified
Fair point.
hannah claire brimelow
We're weeks away from the year anniversary of that.
So that seems sustained to me.
tim pool
There is sustained.
Okay, so that's five.
Number nine, scandal.
The incumbent administration is untainted by major scandal.
True.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
The president was ousted in the 11th hour as the whole media said they were secretly withholding information about his cognitive decline.
That's the incumbent administration.
That's not just Kamala Harris.
That's six.
Trump wins.
But there's more, there's more.
Incumbent charisma.
The incumbent party candidate is charismatic or a national hero.
False.
I will agree with that.
That's seven.
Now here's an interesting one.
Challenger charisma.
The challenging party candidate is not charismatic or a national hero.
True.
But this is interesting.
Trump is charismatic, but he's also widely hated.
hannah claire brimelow
He's widely hated.
On the other hand, he is obviously charismatic.
He built a whole career in TV before he even got anywhere.
I mean, he just survived an assassination attempt.
I'm sorry.
tim pool
That's eight.
And then, guess what?
Number 12, foreign military failure.
The incumbent administration suffers no major failure in foreign or military affairs.
Holy crap.
The Abbeygate scandal is breaking now with the Gold Star families.
Criticizing heavily the Biden administration and Harris for besmirching their name for insulting Trump when they invited him.
Not to mention Afghanistan was a major failure.
Not to mention Israel is resulting in massive protests.
That's nine.
And last but not least, foreign military success.
The incumbent administration achieves a major success in foreign or military affairs.
False.
That's 10 for Trump.
How is this guy making these assessments?
Maybe he's right.
Maybe what he's actually doing is sitting there and he's being like, you know, I'm just gonna lie because the deep state's gonna give it to Harris or whatever.
Or maybe the news media for the first time has become so broken that this guy watching CNN doesn't understand reality.
And so he genuinely thinks he's being correct on this.
And it's not a fault of his system, it's a fault of where he gets his information.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, you mentioned with Al Gore that that was sort of an anomalous race.
And I think similarly, maybe he is not able to judge how unusual this race is with the insertion of Kamala Harris.
I mean, some of these metrics almost seem like they don't apply because when they reference the incumbent being, you know, not charismatic, which incumbent are we talking about?
The incumbent vice president or the incumbent president?
You know what I mean?
Like, it's just a weird, weird situation.
tim pool
I think the scandal question nails it.
The incumbent administration is untainted by major scandal.
This guy's plugged in MSNBC 24-7.
libby emmons
Yeah, because there have been several major scandals.
There's been the classified documents scandal.
There was the Hunter Biden, you know, laptop scandal.
tim pool
Pleading guilty literally right now.
libby emmons
There's Hunter Biden pleading guilty.
There was cocaine in the White House scandal.
There was, you know, Biden getting pushed out at the last second scandal.
There have been a lot of scandals and things like Not to mention just total policy failures that have been a really big problem that people have noticed.
You have the border situation.
That's a really giant disaster.
If we remember going back to 2019 and 2020, like you started to see, as soon as Biden started making a really big play for the White House, you started to see would-be illegal border crossers lining up south of the border wearing like Thank You Biden t-shirts.
They all knew the drill.
It had been telegraphed to them.
Everybody was aware of it.
You had, you know, you've had like countless administration officials hauled before Congress.
You had Mayorkas outright lying.
He said, you know, he said from the briefing room, I remember watching it, like, we're
not saying don't come.
We're saying don't come now.
Let us get our system together.
And then he lied to Josh Hawley and said that he hadn't said that.
And I was like, well, you did kind of totally say that.
You had the vaccine mandate push and then you had, you know, concerns were raised about that, rightly or wrongly.
And then you also had like lockdowns.
That was a problem.
You had the enforcement on the states.
So I think that there have been a lot of school closures, you know, that was an issue.
And you had literally the Biden administration being told by teachers unions that were funding the campaign, this is what we want you to do with schools once you're in office.
And that, you know, that wasn't the only thing.
tim pool
So let's jump to the story.
This is the Silver Bulletin, Nate Silver's assessment and current presidential election forecast.
And I want to make sure I stress this because the previous segment was talking about how Alan Lichtman, the professor who's gotten every election right except for 2000, And that was weird, but you know, he got it wrong, he did.
He's predicting Harris will win based on his keys to the presidency, I think it's called, model.
And because it goes against what I want to happen, he's wrong.
I want Trump to win, so he's wrong.
And Nate Silver says Trump's gonna win, so he's right.
I don't know their data points, but in all seriousness, Nate Silver is now predicting, as of today, Based on current polling, Trump has a 60.1% win probability to Harris's 39.7.
A massive drop off for Harris.
Trump is shooting up nearly 2 to 1 in Nate Silver's forecast model to win.
The interesting thing about this is that Politico said recently that people should ignore the forecast models and the predictions because nobody knows.
And at the time he said, well, it's too close to 50-50, so it doesn't really matter, but people actually can predict this.
It's just that the failed news outlets and pollsters get it wrong and then say, well, nobody knew, nobody knew, when he's like, actually, we can tell.
Now it's 60-40.
Nate Silver's saying Trump's 60% chance to win.
This is wild.
Nate Silver is giving Trump a very, very strong path to victory with his probability right now.
He's saying that Pennsylvania's going Trump 2-1.
Look at this.
Chance of winning 60.8%, Harris 39.2.
He's gonna win Arizona.
He's gonna win Nevada.
He's gonna win North Carolina.
And then he's gonna win Michigan and Wisconsin in his model.
That's crazy.
Narrowly, Michigan and Wisconsin.
Nate Silver's putting it all—it's Trump right now.
So who's going to be wrong?
The statistics guy analyzing all the data and making a prediction, or the professor who has a 13-point system based on opinion?
He's only been wrong one time.
Who do we pick?
Because either way, someone's going to be wrong.
unidentified
I'm siding with Nate Silver.
tim pool
Me too, because I want to.
unidentified
When you actually look at the fundamentals of the race, you know, voter registrations are up for Republicans in almost every major swing state.
You know, mail-in ballot requests, especially for Pennsylvania, I want to say right now I think they're down 130,000 from the same point in 2020.
30,000 from the same point in 2020.
So every fundamental data point outside of just opinion and spin pieces is looking pretty
So, and I actually, I think it's going to get even higher, Trump's chances of winning after this, the debate, because people are going to realize that, you know, Kamala Harris is kind of dimwitted, is not charismatic.
And, you know, I don't think that she's going to come anywhere close to Scranton Joe and this kind of made up mythos about Joe Biden.
I don't think he's, I think she's going to lose Pennsylvania by a pretty good chunk.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I think that's why the first time that they brought Joe Biden onto a campaign event was in Pennsylvania.
I mean, I always thought if they didn't pick Josh Shapiro, that was a misstep.
And I think in some ways it was her campaign saying, basically, we don't think we can win this state because it doesn't seem like she has a path forward without it, which is fascinating.
And I think you're right.
The debate will be very telling.
They just, you know, all these new reports coming out that they have agreed to do it standing with mics muted, basically the same rules that the Biden team had negotiated, even though the Harris campaign had come out and said, well, we want to be able to sit down and we want to do it this way.
Treat us exactly like the Joe Biden campaign by coming to this debate, but also give us completely new rules because we don't like them anymore.
unidentified
And I think the muted mics, I think, actually help Trump.
Because I think, you know, he naturally, I think, probably reserves himself a little bit better and is not as aggressive, and he's kind of more succinct to the point, and I think that's good for him.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, and we got these really good moments where he would say, you know, they would turn and be like, Mr. Trump, do you want to respond to that?
And he was like, I don't know what he said, and I don't think he does either.
I mean, like, it sort of saved him the chance to tee up really good lines when he knew the mic and cameras were on him.
I think there's always a reason to be slightly skeptical of polls.
Data models can be skewed and obviously like you can get an organization that wants a certain outcome and they're able to use the data so that they're able to get that.
But I think what you're saying is that, you know, Trump has popular support in the country and that shows up.
Like I was I was writing about Montana Senate race today with Jon Tester and Tim Sheehy and AARP, which released this report, underscored the fact that the majority of voters in Montana's elections in 2020 and 2022 are older, and overwhelmingly older Montanans support Trump, and they also support Tim Sheehy.
Montanans in general are leaning towards both Trump and the Republican candidate for Senate, but I think that this model gets ignored by mainstream media that wants to say, Well, we don't know.
Anything could happen and it's a lot closer than you think it is because they don't really want to talk to average Americans.
They sort of have something they're driving towards.
They have a headline they want to print.
unidentified
Yeah.
And I also say this with the polling industry.
You know, Democrats generally have more money than Republicans in most of these races.
And when when candidates and parties are buying polls, they're doing it to push a narrative.
So like when people say, oh, polling is always wrong and it's like, well, You know, yes and no, but who is buying a lot of these polls?
Democrats or Democrat-adjacent groups.
So, like, you're naturally almost going to have kind of more of a left-wing bias in some of these polls just because they're the ones putting up all the cash so they can make the headlines and everything like that.
hannah claire brimelow
NBC was making a big deal out of this poll that they had released recently.
They polled young voters and I was listening to one of their broadcasts on it and it seems like the next day they were sort of downplaying it because young voters had told them that their top issue was the economy, which I don't think this mainstream media outlet was expecting.
I think they were expecting them to say, I don't know, abortion or, you know, Palestine or whatever, like something, a more social issue.
But the reality is young Americans are trying to establish their lives and a huge part of that is what kind of economic decisions they have to make every day.
Do they put off buying a car?
Do they think they'll be able to buy a house?
Do they think that they can, you know, afford groceries?
It's like these are the things that are actually on the minds of young Americans, even if You know, a Democrat campaign like the Harris campaign is basically posturing as, well, it's brat summer and everything's vibes.
You know, I think the economic vibes are more dominant than that.
unidentified
Yeah, just pay attention to all these issues that don't really kind of affect your life in a major way.
But yeah, the economy, like, what do you guys do?
What are you guys talking about?
But, you know, when I go back to my district and talk to constituents, talk to younger people that I represent, you know, it's housing affordability, it's wages, it's being able to start a family, it's making sure that your kids aren't getting indoctrinated in the school system, and all these things are materially declining over the last four years and largely over the course of our entire generation, our entire life.
hannah claire brimelow
I don't think Harris looks like she's going to turn the tables on any of this.
I don't know how she could win support without getting better messaging on the economic issue.
That's why they try to distract with things like abortion or marijuana or whatever.
tim pool
She calls herself the underdog.
I mean, I wonder if they're realizing that the media spin narratives, they aren't going to help.
But I have been hearing that there are a lot in the area around us in Virginia, a lot of Harris signs.
libby emmons
I've been seeing a lot of Harris signs too, and especially in that... Are they Harris-Waltz signs?
hannah claire brimelow
Because I walked past this one and realized that it was a Biden-Harris sign and they had just cut Biden off of it.
So it's just like a yard sign thing, which I thought was pretty symbolic here.
libby emmons
It's expensive to buy those.
hannah claire brimelow
And also they were just telling me they're always going to vote Democrat.
Like they don't care about, especially like, you know, West Virginia is a dominantly Republican state.
I can assume if you're an out and proud Democratic voter, maybe you're just trying to say we are the resistance and you can't make us vote for anyone but someone who is a Democrat.
libby emmons
I just registered to vote the other day in West Virginia.
hannah claire brimelow
You did?
libby emmons
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
That's great.
libby emmons
This will be the first time I have ever in my life not voted in New York.
That's pretty wild.
And I even asked, I was like, do we have to show voter ID?
And she's like, yep, and here's your voter ID card.
And I was like, okay, I will put this in my wallet.
hannah claire brimelow
Early voting starts in Pennsylvania in like 11 days.
It's September 16th.
libby emmons
North Carolina is coming up too.
tim pool
Wow, when?
In seven days?
hannah claire brimelow
Pennsylvania is September 16th, 11 days.
tim pool
Wow.
And the 18th is Trump prison day.
libby emmons
Yep.
That's Trump prison day.
We'll see what happens.
I think that, I mean, could they just haul him off to prison?
hannah claire brimelow
Could they just be like, and you're going to- What if he gets put on house arrest and has to hang out with Barron in their New York City apartment?
libby emmons
Right?
unidentified
I was talking to somebody- That's where Barron's living while he goes to NYU.
libby emmons
About where they'd put him.
They wouldn't put him in Rikers.
They'd put him in like Manhattan County Correctional.
tim pool
Prediction is that they're going to put him in Rikers.
libby emmons
Well, but they could have put him in Rikers.
They'd have to put him in MCC, which is right around the corner.
tim pool
They would have to, you said?
libby emmons
Well, I forget who I was talking to, and I don't think he was talking on the record, so I think it's perfectly fine that I totally forgot.
hannah claire brimelow
Conveniently!
libby emmons
I was talking to this lawyer, New York lawyer, who was saying that they wouldn't put him in Rikers, they'd put him in MCC, which is around the corner from where he was tried.
Anyway, downtown, like on Pearl Street, and that that's where they put Epstein.
hannah claire brimelow
Oh, yeah.
Wasn't this, I guess, on the show?
We thought we all had this conversation.
unidentified
Was it?
Yeah.
libby emmons
Was it?
Yeah.
Good.
Then it wasn't.
Then it wasn't.
I'm mixing everything up.
hannah claire brimelow
Exclusive, off-the-record conversation.
libby emmons
No idea what's going on, but yeah.
Yeah, it was an exclusive authority.
I was imagining, do you know what's funny?
I was imagining sort of intimate conversation with me and this person and other people and it was!
hannah claire brimelow
It was!
It was just live to a lot of people in this room.
libby emmons
You know, because this always feels like sort of an intimate conversation.
That's funny.
hannah claire brimelow
What do you think is going to happen to Trump?
unidentified
Do you have a prediction?
I honestly, you know, I haven't I haven't really thought a ton about it just because I'm like, you know, it's just so out of my control.
hannah claire brimelow
Do you think that's how a lot of Americans are feeling?
Like, we think about it a lot because we cover the news, but a lot of Americans, the trial and stuff has sort of faded to the background for them?
unidentified
Yeah, because it's just, you know, we almost live in like a hyper news cycle where it's like, it's just story after story, you know, every day, every couple days.
You know, I think everything that's being done to them is a total injustice, but yeah, I honestly think they probably will put him in jail just to spite him.
I know watching some videos and reading some articles that the Secret Service haven't actually made plans on how they would even protect him.
libby emmons
They were talking about it though.
Months ago they were saying that the Secret Service had considered it.
That was like leaked somewhere, you know?
unidentified
I thought it was leaked that they hadn't made any definite plans that they were still waiting to see, but they were waiting to see kind of what actually, where he ends up, or if he even goes to jail.
hannah claire brimelow
And right now I feel like the Secret Service kind of has a reputation for being unprepared.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
Not to be mean to all Secret Service agents, but just to reflect on this summer.
When you're in your district, do people talk about the lawfare against Trump very much?
How much does Trump come up day-to-day for you?
unidentified
Actually, yeah, quite a bit.
Most of it is just, do you support Trump?
When I'm out door knocking, when I'm out talking to people, most Republicans are like, are you MAGA?
Are you Trump-aligned?
And it's like, yes.
It's part of the reason why I even got involved in politics.
And most people are like, all right, I'm voting for you.
So that's definitely a big question.
Because people, especially Republicans, are so used to just getting backstabbed that they want to know, What's your position on Trump?
What do you think about the guy?
Because most of these people, a lot of them, are Trump voters.
They're going to show up for Trump, and they'll probably vote for other Republicans, but their main reason for going out to vote is Trump.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I think that's true.
It's interesting how much of a draw to the polls he is, and I think the lawfare against him actually might motivate more people this year than ever.
I mean, I think people feel like this is the last shot and a lot is at stake, but they also feel in some ways a deep loyalty to Trump, that it's worth the time and effort to go out and vote for him.
I don't think people felt that way about Joe Biden.
I really don't think they feel that way about Kamala Harris.
libby emmons
I don't think so either.
I think it would be hard, you'd be hard pressed to really be driven to go out and, you know, vote for Kamala Harris because you even saw after the DNC, there were a lot of Democrat activists and stuff coming out on their TikToks and talking about how they were not particularly inspired by this overwhelming joy and euphoria and that they really wanted some answers as to what Kamala Harris was promising to do other
than just be not Trump, which frankly isn't good enough. And I'm really curious to see what
happens next Tuesday on the debate stage in Philadelphia. Because you look at the Harris campaign so
unidentified
far, there really hasn't been a whole lot of substance. Have they even put up any policies
hannah claire brimelow
yet?
libby emmons
Still no policies on the platform.
Wow.
tim pool
So they affect no major change?
libby emmons
Nothing.
tim pool
So that Lichtman thing is ridiculous.
libby emmons
And every time she does come out with a policy proposal, it's either widely blasted by people on her own side or stolen from Trump.
You know, so that's pretty wild.
And then the California Democrats came out and opposed a GOP measure to not tax tips.
hannah claire brimelow
So she's not even aligned with the state that at one point she claimed to represent?
libby emmons
Yeah, you kind of start thinking that maybe she's lying, too, on top of everything else.
unidentified
And her whole policy of supporting, you know, no tax on tips, it's totally because she realizes that Trump is totally on the money, totally over the target on that, and she's like, oh, well I need to copy that so I can take that away from him because that is a popular issue and something that could be done.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, it's to neutralize the advantage that he has.
tim pool
Let's jump to the story from louderwithcrowder.com.
This is crazy.
DOJ Chief of Public Affairs admits Trump indictments a perversion of justice reveals lawfare involved.
Absolutely crazy video.
Louder With Crowder Mug Club Undercover Unit released this video.
And you have this guy, his name is Nicholas Biase of the Southern District of New York.
His official title is what?
DOJ Chief of Public Affairs.
Outright saying, Bragg was stacking charges and, like, rearranging things just to make it fit a case.
No, honestly, I think the case against Trump is nonsense.
Every real estate person in New York does what Trump did.
Nobody's ever been charged with this.
It's all him.
That's why.
Like, Trump is surging in the polls.
You know it's a perversion of justice.
Before he, Bragg, decided to prosecute Trump, did you know who he was?
You do now, Alvin Bragg, who I've known for 15 years.
He used to work in my office.
Alvin is very ambitious.
He basically goes into great detail.
About how this is ongoing lawfare against Trump to impact the election.
We actually have this, the New York Post covering it, saying, Top Manhattan U.S.
Attorney's Office spokesperson blasts D.A.
Bragg over Trump prosecution in secret recording.
The case is nonsense, he said.
We do have a statement.
Steven Crowder's breaking update.
Chief of Public Affairs Nick Biase officially responded, saying, I was recently made aware of a video where I regretfully made some statements in a private and social setting that don't reflect my views about two local and state prosecutions.
I said these things in an effort to please and impress someone I just met, who was secretly filming me.
I'm deeply sorry to the local and state law enforcement officials working on these matters, who deserve more respect than I showed them.
I should have known better.
I got something for you, Guy.
If you're willing to lie to a random person in public, what makes any of us think you're not lying to us now?
So your words are all meaningless garbage.
It's moot.
Your statements mean nothing.
If you can't own up to what you think or believe, you should be fired because you no longer have any credibility.
libby emmons
But who would fire him?
He would be fired people who have even less morals and scruples than he does.
hannah claire brimelow
Was this a James O'Keefe media move where he was on a date with someone?
Why is he trying to impress someone he had just met?
libby emmons
Well, this is something that's going on now.
Like, James O'Keefe has, you know, with his OMG Media, was his Crowder, broken out and started training citizen journalists and now they can be anywhere even on Stephen Crowder.
tim pool
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
It's kind of fascinating.
unidentified
Yeah, and it's amazing how open and candid they are.
You know, the reality is... Like, yeah, I'm a corrupt son of a gun.
hannah claire brimelow
I wish he'd double down and be like, I said it, I meant everything I said, this place is the worst.
tim pool
The reality is that this guy is terrified.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Of course he believes what he said in the undercover camera.
And it's unfortunate, too, because before this statement, I was praising him, like, seems like a good dude who knows what's going on.
We just need good people to speak out.
And then he comes out and does the opposite and says, I don't actually think that.
B.S.
He was so quick-witted with it.
He knew exactly what he thought, and he thought he could say it because he was in private, but he's terrified what this means.
People, my guy, Nick, you've got to stop.
You've got to just admit it and say to the public, this needs to stop.
Otherwise, they will come for you.
You cannot survive ducking and hiding behind a counter and hoping the violent mob passes you by.
The moment everyone just speaks up and says, enough of this, it all stops and you are at zero risk.
But if you were to come out and say, of course I think these things.
It was terrible.
It was wrong.
They shouldn't bring it.
We'd be all like, bravo, sir.
You're a hero.
But you know what?
They're scared.
libby emmons
Yeah, they are scared.
Everybody's scared.
And isn't that sort of the thing that happens?
I'm like, I'm hearkening back to novels from behind the Eastern Bloc, you know, Russian Soviet novels and from Eastern Europe.
And this is what happens, right?
Look at Solzhenitsyn.
This is what happens.
You have people start to be freaked out.
They start to be scared.
They couch their opinions.
They They lie, they obfuscate, they try to cover up and save themselves.
And more and more, just the grip continues to tighten around the whole of society because each individual person is too scared to stand up on their own.
And then you have, you know, other people who you maybe think are your friends and it turns out that they are actually backstabbing you or turning you over to somebody else or, you know, reporting you to the authorities because you don't believe the right thing and you said that.
you know, at brunch one day, and so now they're turning you over because
otherwise they're worried that they're going to be turned over, or some
authority has them over a barrel. So that is, you know, that is,
that's what happens. That's what we have learned from the Soviet bloc nations and from the literary
geniuses who were working behind the Vaclav Havel I'm thinking of, you know, primarily or, you know, even going back further, you know, Franz Kafka or Solzhenitsyn or, you know, Bulgakov, all of these guys.
unidentified
And thinking about what he said about Alvin Bragg, that he was like, oh, he's an ambitious guy.
It's like, you know, that is total political weasel talk for, you know, this guy will knife anyone in the back.
This guy will do anything, totally unscrupulous.
It doesn't matter if it's right, wrong, or in a gray area.
Like, he's just in it for himself, trying to advance his political career.
And you see this all the time in politics.
Political insiders, you know, always tout that they're like, oh, he's ambitious, like he wants to go places.
And it's like, well, yeah, because he's trying to sell his soul and do anything and everything to climb the ladder.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
And I think that's the problem with a lot of these positions.
It's somebody's like 15 minutes of power that they're trying to play in into an entire career.
I mean, it is interesting that this was sort of public knowledge that that that this case had been rejected multiple times.
People didn't think it was worth doing.
And all of a sudden you got one guy moved into the office, the office and you got off and brag and they were like, Actually, we've decided to bring this case and even the judge, when he sent the jury to deliberate was like, you don't have to actually decide on on which of these, like, just just kind of get a consensus go and we'll see what happens.
Mostly, please give us a guilty verdict because that's what we want.
I mean, I don't think that this kind of...
I think this public affairs officer had a chance to really show that there is not just a monolith opinion in this office and present the idea that possibly you could trust a system like this and it immediately was turned into actually he has to fall in line and we all are on the same page and we have definitively decided that no matter what Donald Trump is guilty.
I think that's not good for the American psyche.
There's such a low trust in government and lawfare right now and this is only making it worse.
unidentified
Oh yeah, and it totally vindicates what Republicans are saying, is that, you know, they are...
A lot of these bureaucracies are totally unified against them.
And this guy even is willing to admit, oh yeah, this is not fair, this is not right.
But when the hammer comes down on him, he's like, oh no, what the system is doing, A-OK.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
unidentified
Absurd.
libby emmons
And it's the hammer.
Yeah.
Yeah.
RFK was talking about this, the organs.
That's what they always say in the old books, the organs, the organs of government, the organs.
It's the agencies that just swarm around, take everybody down.
hannah claire brimelow
And spend a lot of money.
I mean, think about how much money the federal government and the state of New York have spent trying to put Trump in jail or at least get some sort of guilty conviction.
I mean, is that really the number one goal here?
Do we think these funds were used justly in a way that honors the contribution that taxpayers are making and that trust that elective officials have, you know, somehow extracted from their voters?
I don't think so.
I don't think that this is really what anyone wants.
Well, it's taxpayer-funded campaigning.
of Trump derangements, I don't think that Donald Trump's convictions have actually made
anybody happy.
It just seems like nothing is sticking, probably because there's not a reason to, and instead
of saying, OK, well, we tried and we'll walk away now, there's just corruption within the
system to prove a point.
unidentified
It's taxpayer-funded campaigning.
That's basically what they're doing.
hannah claire brimelow
And it was a great, I mean, again, this is one of the things that bothers me about mainstream
media, but I remember they would run these, especially when this New York trial was going
on, being like, well, you know, Trump has not been on the campaign trail because he's
in, he is on trial and Joe Biden's out here doing all these wonderful things.
And then Trump would have these, you know, interesting ways of connecting with the public.
He did that event in New Jersey.
He did something in the Bronx.
And they would be like, ugh.
Can you believe he's doing this while he's on trial?
It's like he's not even taking the trial seriously.
Like, there was nothing he could do to win in an impossible situation that he was turning into something that was benefiting his campaign.
unidentified
Yeah.
And it was actually, you know, I was thoroughly impressed that, like, he would spend, you know, six hours, eight hours in a courtroom, and then, like, right after, he'd get on the plane and go to a rally, like, nearby, and it was just like, this man is just a machine.
hannah claire brimelow
Meanwhile, Joe Biden gets ousted and then takes a two-week vacation.
unidentified
You know, he can't even make his way up the stairs, you know?
tim pool
It is funny that people are pointing out the moment he dropped out of the race, he's just dropped out pretense of being president.
libby emmons
Yeah, he's just not in there.
Even when he was talking the other day from, you know, what was said to be the White House, he was behind like a little play school desk at a fake set.
It was like it was COVID all over again.
tim pool
People also pointed out that Kamala saluted Some of the, I don't know if it was Marines or somebody, she was boarding the plane.
She saluted them and then someone said something like, only the president does that as commander-in-chief.
Vice president is not in this position, should not be doing this.
Unless she's the president.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, she doesn't respect any decorum.
libby emmons
She's a fool.
hannah claire brimelow
She's just trying to seem presidential.
I'm sure she doesn't actually care about any official protocol.
libby emmons
I saw somebody do this once before.
Let me try it now.
tim pool
The earbuds thing is funny because who has a phone with a headphone jack?
libby emmons
Right?
Who has that anymore?
unidentified
In those photos, she just looks so pitiful.
Is her face scrunched up?
hannah claire brimelow
I loved watching Tim Murtaugh tweet about that because he was like, if you're gonna do this, then don't put the phone to your ear like you're taking a phone call.
Come on!
They set this thing up so she can try to politely avoid the press, which You know, I think she should just continue on her merry way of blatantly ignoring them because that's what she's been doing so far.
I mean, do you guys remember that really amazing interview she gave us?
Oh wait, it wasn't amazing.
It was very short and Tim Walz had to hold her hand through it.
I mean, this is someone who doesn't care about anything and thinks if she just mostly tries to say nothing, she can win the White House.
I think the American people deserve better than that.
unidentified
Yeah, I tweeted out on that interview because it was, what, supposed to be an hour?
And I think they only released like 30 minutes of it.
And then it was like MSNBC or CNN was like, well, you know, it definitely wasn't a touchdown, but we think that she moved the ball forward a little bit.
If CNN is saying that, it's just like it was not good.
hannah claire brimelow
It was rough.
I mean, again, why is she not doing this alone?
She's like the girl boss and she needs a male chaperone.
tim pool
Let's jump to this next story.
We've got this from NBC News.
Republican House panel subpoenas Governor Walz and investigation of Minnesota nonprofit that ran a COVID aid
scheme.
The group Feeding Our Future faces federal criminal charges that it created fake children's names to seek reimbursements
for meals they were never served.
They say the House Education and Workforce Committee issued subpoenas on Wednesday to Minnesota Governor Tim Walz.
The Minnesota Department of Education and the U.S.
unidentified
Department of Labor.
tim pool
Department of Agriculture for how they responded to what federal prosecutors have called the largest pandemic fraud schemes in the country.
The subpoenas obtained first by NBC News demand that Walz Minnesota Commissioner of Education Willie Jett, and U.S.
Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack, and Agriculture Inspector General Phyllis Fong, turnover documents concerning oversight of the nonprofit Feeding Our Future, which is alleged to have misused millions of dollars intended to feed children during the pandemic.
Yo, there's, there's, what, hundreds of companies that were taking money illicitly?
libby emmons
Yeah, there were a lot.
And in fact, in Washington State, there was a crazy Nigerian scheme where they managed to abscond with extra unemployment benefits, even though they weren't in the United States at all.
There's no way to get those back.
But there's photographs of Tim Walz with some of the Somali Americans who were convicted of this fraud.
hannah claire brimelow
And it's 250 million dollars.
libby emmons
It's really a lot of money.
hannah claire brimelow
It's a significant amount of money.
libby emmons
And they took the money to feed hungry Minnesota children.
hannah claire brimelow
Allegedly.
libby emmons
And they didn't do that.
unidentified
Yeah.
libby emmons
You know, they bilked the state out of the money, they bilked all of us out of the money, and they didn't feed any children.
tim pool
I wonder if this is why Tim Walz's family are endorsing Donald Trump.
libby emmons
It does seem like perhaps Tim Walz wasn't actually vetted.
You know what I mean?
tim pool
Like, they wanted Shapiro, but after the panic, they just had Waltz, Waltz.
libby emmons
Right.
They just panicked after.
And Shapiro would have outshined her because he's actually, you know, like him or don't
like him.
He's actually a leader and he's well-respected.
And Tim Waltz seems like a total patsy.
You know, it doesn't seem like he has any idea about anything.
He lied about his military record.
He lied about, you know, the way his children were conceived.
And it turns out that he, I mean, maybe he was complicit in this.
I have no idea.
But he's going to have to explain it to Congress.
hannah claire brimelow
No, Assistant Coach Waltz is not trustworthy.
And that just becomes more and more true every week.
I agree with you.
Maybe he wasn't vetted.
But also, they didn't really have any time, right?
I mean, This is one of the issues that Democrats have created for themselves by inserting Kamala Harris and not holding any kind of runoff primary by just saying, well, she's it and whoever goes with her is who you have to back completely.
They put themselves in a position where they didn't have the time and also they didn't have the critical analysis to really comb through Kamala.
I think it would have been better for the DNC if they had allowed there to be basically a mini primary and had an open convention where Kamala Harris could have picked her VP or whatever else but you would have had a bunch of challengers come out and by the time they got to convention probably one of the second tier challengers would have become the VP and then they would have presented their own record and I think that would have been a smarter move because you would have demanded engagement from the voters in a way that they haven't right now.
They demand a compliance from their voters right now, but they never ask them to actively engage in a process of selecting the new candidate.
unidentified
I'll just say this, you know, just watching some of the videos with Governor Walz, it's like, he has such bizarre mannerisms.
I can't quite put my finger on it, but yeah, he's an odd fella, just watching him kind of do the retail politics thing.
hannah claire brimelow
Missouri's not the Midwest, right?
unidentified
Yeah, we're a midwestern state.
Southern Missouri, it's more southern, but yeah, we're a midwestern state.
hannah claire brimelow
So when you look at Tim Walz, you're not inspired?
You don't think he's a friendly dad from the suburbs?
Because that's what I keep hearing.
All these left-wing talking heads are like, well, he connects with rural Minnesota men and rural midwestern men.
He just seems like a dad.
What are you talking about?
This guy seems super weird.
unidentified
Yeah, driving around like rural Missouri or just like knowing people out there, like no one is like, wow, you know, Tim Walz?
tim pool
Coach Walz!
unidentified
Yeah, Coach Walz!
libby emmons
Or like how he was walking around today at that Pennsylvania event in Lancaster and he was, you know, he wouldn't take any questions, which he was, you know, talking to volunteers or whatever, but one reporter tried to ask him questions and reportedly the campaign, the, you know, campaign people were like, do not interrupt the program.
unidentified
And you have Tim Walz being like, hi, hi, hi!
It's so bizarre.
hannah claire brimelow
It's a children's television show?
libby emmons
Yes, it was a program Tim Walz was delivering to the volunteers of Lancaster, Pennsylvania.
unidentified
Did he jangle his keys in front of everybody?
libby emmons
No, I don't think he did that.
tim pool
I thought it would have worked.
libby emmons
What's that?
unidentified
I think Coach Walz and his rule of appeal is like the same thing with Scranton Joe.
The Democrats know they're hemorrhaging male voters, so they try to almost gaslight the American people like, no, no, he's just like you.
He totally gets your way of life and everything.
I don't think most people even buy it.
tim pool
How old is he? 60?
libby emmons
He looks at least 65-ish, no?
hannah claire brimelow
Let's look.
tim pool
So that would make him, is that still a boomer?
libby emmons
Well, I don't know.
Born in 1964.
hannah claire brimelow
Born in 1964.
libby emmons
So he's a, so was, wasn't Kamala Harris also 64?
tim pool
Yeah, they're boomers.
libby emmons
Well, they're the tail end of the boomers because then Gen X starts in 65.
tim pool
Really?
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
Gen X is 65?
libby emmons
That's when it starts, yeah.
It's like 65 to 79.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, she was born in 64.
tim pool
You're right.
libby emmons
65 to 80 is Gen X. Tim Waltz and Kamala Harris are exactly the same age.
She looks a lot better than he does, I will say that.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, she's probably paid to look that way.
libby emmons
She probably has.
hannah claire brimelow
Which I respect, you know?
tim pool
So then boomers are 81, or millennials are 81 and up?
libby emmons
Yeah, that's the millennials.
tim pool
Wow.
Well, there you go.
I guess it's weird because I don't see this guy as being relatable to Gen X. No.
And not boomers either.
libby emmons
No, he just seems to be kind of a big floppy weirdo.
Yeah.
Like a little pudgy.
tim pool
Big floppy weirdo talks like this.
libby emmons
Yeah, a little, you know, doesn't really know what's going on.
Eats pork chops on sticks.
Come on.
Beef and cheese on a tortilla.
hannah claire brimelow
And brings shame to the campaign.
You know what I mean?
libby emmons
He brings shame to the campaign.
He's already had several lion's handles.
tim pool
200 mayonnaise tacos?
libby emmons
Yeah.
My son was like, who eats pork chops on a stick?
That sounds like it would just be really dry.
Yeah.
I'm like, oh, it does sound like that.
Yeah.
unidentified
Your son, the culinary expert, is like, that's disgusting.
tim pool
I wonder if, like, when he was doing the taco thing with Kamala, and then he was like, I have white guy tacos, and she's like, what's that, like, tuna and mayonnaise?
I'm just thinking about this, because, like, Kamala, have you never had a tuna wrap?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, did you ever go to, like, a deli or, like, a diner and, like, tuna wraps are on the menu?
libby emmons
He can't even find the Doritos out of sheets, though.
tim pool
Was she looking for the Doritos?
libby emmons
No, she sent her minions, Doug Emhoff and Tim Waltz.
tim pool
Well, she was in it and they threw the chips to her.
libby emmons
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
Because they're fun!
They're friends, you know?
They're on like this crazy cross-country road trip.
libby emmons
They're having a road trip, yeah.
tim pool
Meanwhile, the DOJ is going after sheets for being racist for saying they don't want criminals to work there.
libby emmons
Right, right.
And that's just so ridiculous because how could it be racist to say you don't want criminals to work there?
tim pool
Because it disproportionately affects black people according to the DOJ.
libby emmons
I understand.
They're making an admission that perhaps they doesn't actually match their values.
It's kind of weird.
unidentified
Right.
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
I can't, I just can't stop.
I'm just wondering who's going to be right in this prediction model.
You know, Nate Silver is this dodgy nerd and Lichtman is more... You know, I guess it's fair to say that Lichtman's predictions are just astrology for dudes.
You know what I mean?
It's like him looking at things and being like, well, based on what I think about these factors, Kamala wins.
And we're like, well, he got it right a bunch of times before.
That means he must be right now.
And then Nate Silver is like, look at all the data, how it's lined up in the last several elections and where we are now with trends.
I think Trump's going to win.
And I'm going to go with Nate Silver.
libby emmons
OK.
tim pool
Yeah.
They could have went with Shapiro, but instead they chose Coach Waltz.
hannah claire brimelow
I still think they should have picked Andy Beshear from Kentucky.
libby emmons
Oh yeah, I used to like him.
Well, I don't personally like him, but I think if... I remember you liked him for Kamala.
unidentified
I think if Kamala was a serious candidate, she would have picked... You were like a matchmaker.
hannah claire brimelow
Right.
She would have picked the blue governor in a red state, and that would have been more likely to foil her.
libby emmons
But you don't need Kentucky for anything.
hannah claire brimelow
She doesn't need anything anyways, right?
She has to focus on Pennsylvania.
If she's not going to pick Shapiro, then she's not very serious anyways.
But at least Bashir postures as a Christian.
He has a different region of the country.
She's basically using Walls as this punching bag to be like, You're a white man and I'm going to make fun of you.
That's all he's there for.
libby emmons
He's the sitcom dad.
unidentified
I think Bashir would probably have more rural appeal than Wallace.
hannah claire brimelow
And he foils J.D.
Vance in it.
They're both young.
They have young families.
Anyways, sorry you didn't take my advice.
tim pool
Aren't we lucky they didn't?
Although, I mean, the obvious choice was Shapiro, even outside of that.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
I actually think that we would be in a little bit of trouble if they had picked Shapiro.
Because I think, had Shapiro been picked, I think PA would probably be going blue.
Because I think Shapiro is fairly well-known in PA, and I think he's well-liked just because he hasn't been in government for that long.
So he hasn't really done anything too controversial that has turned public sentiment against him.
tim pool
Yeah, and Nate Silver's prediction was, he said that if Kamala Harris does not win Pennsylvania, her chance of winning drops to 4%.
So this is a win or like, it's all or nothing in Pennsylvania.
And they went with Waltz?
libby emmons
Yeah, pretty weird.
Pretty weird.
tim pool
And I think you're right.
It doesn't seem like they vetted this guy.
libby emmons
Yeah, it seems like skipping Shapiro was like a desperate attempt to appease the anti-Semites who showed up at the DNC and protested and burned American flags anyway.
tim pool
Yeah.
All right, let's jump to the story from the Post Millennial from Andy Ngo.
Tenet Media founders were raided just as the DOJ indictment dropped.
Holy crap.
We got a bunch of updates here.
The Blaze has fired Lauren Chen.
And we also have the Washington Post reporting YouTube has taken down Tenet Media and Lauren Chen's channels.
This is crazy.
Absolutely crazy.
So here's the report from the Postmillennial.
Andy Noh says the founders of Tenet Media, the right-wing media startup accused by the
USDOJ of illegally taking nearly $10 million from Russian state actors to launder Russian
influence, were raided on Wednesday as the indictment was unsealed, according to sources
who spoke exclusively with the Postmillennial. The sources were not authorized to publicly speak on
record, said the authorities confiscated the electronic devices belonging to Tenet Media
owners Lauren Chen, also known as Lauren You-Some-Tam, I didn't know that, and her husband
Liam Donovan around the same time the Biden-Harris administration announced the indictment.
I don't think the owners had any idea about the investigation, one source said.
The raid just came out of nowhere.
Sources said the couple, who are Canadian nationals living in Tennessee, had recently returned from a trip abroad.
Chen, a right-wing YouTuber and social media personality, and her husband have not commented publicly.
The company's social media accounts were still posting content just before the indictment was unsealed.
Sources tell the Post Malino that Tenet media staff had been kept entirely in the dark since the indictment's announcement, with the founders not communicating at all with any employees or contributors.
Tenet Media has not issued any public comment.
Now, this is interesting.
There was a quickly posted and deleted comment that said, Very interesting.
And now we have, The Blaze has fired Lauren Chen.
I don't think they've added much else after that.
And then, YouTube has terminated these channels.
This is absolutely crazy.
And, uh, you know, the one thing I can add to this, obviously, is we had a show licensed to Tenet.
We do sponsors, right?
And now we regularly have ad sales where a company will come to us and say, we'd like to sponsor your show.
And it's immediately now like, who are you?
Where are you from?
Why are you doing this?
Because the crazy thing about Lauren Chen is we've known her for so long.
She's been a prominent producer for over a decade.
She works for The Blaze.
She was a contributor to TPUSA.
And everyone was just like, oh yeah, she's starting a company, sure.
This is nuts.
But the crazy thing I would also add is, it actually is very scary.
This indictment is an allegation not yet proven in court, and that's a statement from the DOJ.
The DOJ said that.
They said these are allegations not yet proven to be true, and these individuals are presumed innocent.
And that's not in reference to Lauren Chen or Liam Donovan.
The crazy thing is, YouTube took down Lauren Chen's channel, YouTube terminated Lauren Chen's channel.
She's not been indicted on any crime.
She's not been accused of any crime.
She's listed in this document.
There are some damning allegations, but she's not yet been indicted, and YouTube just nuked their channels instantly.
Tenet, I could understand, but even after that, these are still just allegations, which is kind of worrying.
unidentified
Yeah.
libby emmons
Well, Andy added an update, which says, shortly after the report was published, Tenet Media announced privately to its staff that it was ceasing operations effective immediately.
tim pool
Whoa, wait, where?
When did he say that?
libby emmons
Did he tweet it?
No, he just told me, because he was watching, and he just told me that you didn't update and it wasn't there at the top, and I'm looking at the story.
tim pool
Oh, I see it, I see it, yeah.
Shortly after this report was published, Tenet Media announced privately to its staff that it was ceasing operations effective immediately.
libby emmons
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
If you guys ever wonder why Libby's on her laptop during the show, she is actively always working.
tim pool
Yeah.
libby emmons
I was just talking to Andy.
tim pool
So, Timcast, the company where we do the show, I'll give you a quick history.
I started a YouTube channel a long time ago.
Worked for a couple big media outlets.
They paid me good sums of money when I worked for Disney and for Vice.
Then I used that money to invest in my YouTube channel, which it grew and generated revenue.
Carl Benjamin had me do a guest spot on his channel, which gave me a bunch of subscribers.
Shortly after that, I went on Joe Rogan, got way more subscribers.
Big YouTube channels make lots of money, reinvested back into the company.
The company grew substantially.
So when, you know, Lauren Chen approached us about a deal, it was like, hey, we'd like to license your show for
distribution.
That's the gist of it.
The show already existed.
It's on youtube.com slash TimCast.
It has 1.3 million subscribers.
And I was like, okay.
And then that's it.
It was not exclusive.
This is absolutely insane.
That, I don't know, I don't know.
They fired her even?
I gotta say, it really does look like, from this reporting, she's gonna be charged.
Her and Liam are gonna face criminal charges.
libby emmons
There's another statement in the story apparently.
What is it?
That Donovan sent a message to staff saying, as most of you may know by now, there's a federal investigation surrounding Tenet at the moment.
There have been no indictments against us or the company.
We've hired legal counsel and are working through the legal issues.
We hope to provide more clarity soon.
However, it is clear that given the nature of the investigation, we have no choice but to stop all work on Tenet.
We do not foresee it coming back.
tim pool
Absolutely insane.
That's crazy.
I mean, the DOJ indictment's fairly damning.
It says that when they were looking for remittances and they didn't get a response, they Google-searched time in Moscow.
That's pretty... That's a bold claim.
But hey, these are allegations.
I don't know what's true.
libby emmons
Due process.
tim pool
Yeah, and I've not talked to Lauren Chen after any of this stuff, and I think I only talked to her a couple times this year at all, and I think it was one time because she came on the show with Pearl Davis, and we talked about dating and marriage and stuff.
hannah claire brimelow
And she was here with Benny Johnson after that, I think.
tim pool
She was here with Benny Johnson?
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, she and Benny Johnson were here.
tim pool
Man, I barely remember.
unidentified
I think it is pretty funny, though, that if it's true that she Googled that, it's like, you know, that's the same thing that Bob Menendez's wife did when they had the gold bars.
They were like, oh, what to do with all these gold bars?
It's like, if you're committing crimes, don't Google about what crime you're committing, because, like, they will find out.
tim pool
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
It'll be really interesting to see how this plays out.
I mean, I think that It's just one of these things that I don't trust the DOJ.
On the other hand, these are very serious allegations.
And especially during election year, you know, to have the credibility of a lot of people who are openly discussing politics in a way that the Biden administration doesn't like come under scrutiny.
You know, it's it's it's rough.
unidentified
And the kind of bizarre thing is, you know, the media has always been saying that, you know, Trump is Putin's candidate, you know, Trump is pro-Russia.
And, you know, you follow Lauren's Twitter feed, and like, she's been very critical of Trump from a I think Trump had a statement about it on Truth Social.
It's like I don't see how Russia gains or anything like that if this is all true.
It's kind of bizarre.
It's like what do they gain from attacking Trump from the right other than I guess this
general discord.
tim pool
I think Trump had a statement about it on Truth Social.
Let's see if I can pull that one up.
Blah blah blah.
No, I don't know.
He had some truth social posts, but the media's not covering it because it doesn't, you know, it doesn't lend to their narrative.
But here we are, man.
I don't know if this is a pre-October surprise.
Early voting is starting in, what did you say, Pennsylvania?
hannah claire brimelow
Pennsylvania on the 16th.
libby emmons
North Carolina is coming up, too.
tim pool
Pennsylvania is the one that matters.
hannah claire brimelow
Pennsylvania's first, too.
libby emmons
Yeah.
That's a very big deal.
tim pool
Yeah.
libby emmons
Yeah, and there could be more October Surprise, you know?
tim pool
September Surprise?
libby emmons
Yeah, well, we've got the September Surprise.
Maybe they're just going to keep ramping it up, you know?
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I almost feel like it's not going to be a surprise.
It's just going to be like hit after hit after hit after hit after hit until the election.
libby emmons
Well, that has been like, for people who work in news, it has been ludicrous.
It has been just absolutely insane.
Like, every single day is a collection of crazy stories, none of which have anything to do with each other.
So you're just constantly, like, assigning writers, like, you do this crazy thing.
How about you do this crazy thing?
They're all breaking.
You have to come up for new with new words for breaking, you know, just in.
New crazy thing happened.
And you have school shootings.
That poor kid, you know, like, it looks like he was abused by his dad on top of everything else.
tim pool
I'm just looking at all the stuff that's going on.
And I'm really worried about what happens in not like mid November and December sounds scary.
libby emmons
Yeah.
And also terrible for the victims.
Obviously, I don't mean to just say I always feel bad for the person who has so much trouble that they give into evil.
I always feel bad for that person.
tim pool
Yeah, well, I'm worried about what happens to the stability of this country.
libby emmons
Yeah, for sure.
tim pool
Moving post, you know, November 5th.
Two months, 61 days.
And up until that point, you know, I feel like the stuff that we're seeing now, this is absolutely, these allegations are absolutely crazy.
And, man, I have no idea.
I feel like what's to come is going to get nuts.
Because I've been saying this for a while now.
They're going to go after anti-establishment channels.
You know, I don't know.
libby emmons
Well, it's a concern.
And they certainly you know, they certainly didn't have a problem going after Steve Bannon.
tim pool
Yep.
And Peter Navarro.
libby emmons
And Peter Navarro.
And, you know, War room's doing a really good job holding it together until he gets back, but... Now we've got, you know, Lichtman saying Harris wins.
I think it's like the end of October, right?
tim pool
Yeah, right before the election.
Harris, I'm sorry, Lichtman's got it for Harris.
Silver's got it for Trump.
They're both subject to change, I guess.
The question then becomes, what happens on November 6th?
libby emmons
What happens?
I guess... What do you think?
I think it totally depends on who wins.
tim pool
Well, I know, that's the question.
I mean, is there going to be a winner?
unidentified
Yeah.
Well, I also think, like, if it is, like, a very tight electoral college outcome, like, I could see just chaos, violence the day after.
And especially if, you know, states are, like, very marginal and they're swapping because of mail-in ballots or something like that, you know, it's gonna be hectic.
But if it's clear one way or the other, I think most people will.
I think there'll be some frustration, some anger, but I don't know if it devolves into, like, mass chaos.
tim pool
Have you seen the HAVV numbers?
Help America vote verification stuff?
unidentified
No.
libby emmons
Are you updated though?
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
Let's pull up the week ending August 31st and take a look at Missouri.
unidentified
Whoa!
tim pool
Holy crap.
Is this true?
Week ending August 31st, 2024.
Let's zoom in.
Are you familiar with HAVV?
unidentified
I am not.
tim pool
This is the Help America Vote Verification System.
What you're seeing here, and we'll start with these numbers, Alabama, total transactions, this is 3,041 voter registration attempts from individuals who don't have IDs.
What they do is, the DMV, or the, what is it, Motor Vehicle Administration, will submit the registration application, along with the last four of their social, name and birthday, to the SSA, who will then confirm if the person exists.
Alabama had 3,041 total attempts.
815 of those registrations did not come back matched to a social security name and number.
2,226 did.
1,943 were dead.
I'm sorry, were alive.
283 were dead.
So that's over a one-week period.
243 were dead. I'm sorry, we're alive. 283 were dead.
So that's over a one-week period.
Arizona had 53,200 voter registration attempts without IDs.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Missouri had 36,769 people attempt to register to vote without an ID.
237 were dead.
3,141 did not match the SSA database.
libby emmons
Could a lot of these be voter registration drives?
unidentified
So, with a voter registration drive... Millions per month?
tim pool
I mean, or hundreds of thousands per month?
libby emmons
Well, in Arizona, I know Charlie Kirk just did, like, a huge voter registration drive.
tim pool
And 53,000 of the people that he registered didn't have IDs?
libby emmons
Well, it's not that they didn't have IDs.
It's that when you do a voter registration drive, you may be like, check the ID, but you don't submit their voter registration with their ID because they take their ID back.
tim pool
If you put your name, your ID down and you write your ID information, you're good.
This is for people who don't have one who submit specifically with their Social Security numbers.
libby emmons
Yeah, I'm just wondering if that's... I don't remember the last time I looked at a voter drive form.
unidentified
What's interesting is why that's probably so high, because I was kind of shocked to see that number, is in Missouri on the November ballot we have an abortion referendum.
So I know Democrats are doing voter registration drives all across the state to try and make sure that that margin goes their way.
hannah claire brimelow
Does Missouri have early voting?
unidentified
Yeah, two weeks.
tim pool
Here's Missouri, February 17th of this year.
78,421 registration attempts without an ID.
of this year. 78,421 registration attempts without an ID.
23,253 of those attempts were from dead people.
libby emmons
That is crazy.
Why are there dead people registering to vote?
tim pool
The argument that people say makes the most sense is that this is the reapplication of existing voter registration forms to check as a voter roll cleanup thing.
I don't know that that makes sense.
If the point of this, SSA says it's only for voter registrations with IDs, this would mean the state's abusing the system.
And I don't know the mechanism by which they submit, but my understanding, according to the website, is you submit the form, the voter registration form, with the information about their social security number, name, and date of birth.
I don't see how Missouri doing voter roll cleanup would take a stack of voter registration forms from when?
I mean, if we're talking about 23,253 people who are deceased, that means they must have been registered for quite some time, right?
I can't imagine those are murder victims.
They're people who died of old age.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Why would the state still have all their forms?
unidentified
Well, things move really slow.
libby emmons
Bureaucracy is...
tim pool
Really slow. But how does that explain 23,000 dead people in Missouri? The explanation may be that
they filled out new application forms for everybody on the voter rolls and then submitted
them to see if they were still alive so they could remove them later. Seems kind of...
unidentified
Are these people who submitted a voter registration and are now registered,
or these were just people who submitted registration and then got flagged?
tim pool
So all this checks is whether they have a social security number.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
So the way it works is total non-matches.
So let's do Alabama for the week of February 17th, 1092 transactions.
These are the DMV submitting the form saying here are the people who tried to register.
210 did not match.
Okay.
So that person likely will not get registered.
Yeah.
882 did match.
They likely will go back and say, okay, these names are good.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
And however, 276 were dead.
So they'd likely say, okay, take that name.
This person can't register.
They're dead.
The question is, how does a dead person try to register to vote?
Yeah.
The argument could be that they register and then die, and the application was sitting on the desk for a few weeks or something.
But 23,000?
unidentified
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
Did you guys have a very specific plague hit suddenly?
unidentified
No, no.
I will say this.
This is something that I need to talk to you.
So my state senator actually won the primary and arguably the most conservative one of the eight candidates that were running for Secretary of State of Missouri.
So he will be the next Secretary of State.
I need to talk to him about this.
Yeah, this is, you know, eye opening.
But yeah, it's disturbing.
In one week, 23,000 dead people.
That's absurd.
tim pool
The argument is that it's voter roll cleanup, and that's the only thing that really makes sense, but I don't understand the mechanism by which you use a voter registration system for voter roll cleanup.
It seems like a leap.
What's the other argument?
That someone tried to register a bunch of names they found and they were dead people?
I mean, that's crazy, too.
unidentified
Yeah, well, one...
And this is me spitballing.
One thing I could think is, you know, as they're gathering signatures to put things on the ballot, they cross-reference that to see if they're a registered voter or not.
So maybe they find out that these senators are either dead, like these people are not alive,
or anything like that, and then they eliminate them. But still, I don't know.
No idea.
Yeah, that is bizarre. It's definitely something that we need to look into.
tim pool
Let's jump to this story from SCNR.
White House denounces Tucker Carlson for recent viral interview.
Carlson, they're warmonger freaks.
They don't get the moral high ground.
The White House has condemned Tucker Carlson for a recent viral interview he conducted with Historian.
On Monday, The Independent Broadcaster released an interview with podcaster Daryl Cooper, whom Carlson referred to as the best and most honest popular historian in the U.S.
The viral episode, which is approaching 30 million views and acts, has resulted in Cooper's martyr-made podcast topping the
iTunes charts and surpassing Carlson's podcast. Wow. During the wide-ranging two-hour interview,
Cooper offered a heterodox view of Winston Churchill. Quote, I think maybe I'm getting a
little, I'm being a little hyperbolic, maybe, but I thought Churchill was the chief villain of the
Second World War, Cooper said.
He didn't kill the most people. He didn't commit the most atrocities. He was primarily responsible
for that war becoming what it did. In a statement issued to CNN, the Biden administration's senior
deputy press secretary, Andrew Bates, said, giving a microphone to a Holocaust denier who spreads
Nazi propaganda is a disgusting and sadistic insult to all Americans, to the memory of over
six million Jews who were genocidally murdered by Adolf Hitler, to the service of the millions
of Americans who fought to defeat Nazism, and to every subsequent victim of anti-Semitism.
Hitler was one of the most evil figures in human history, and the chief villain of World War II, full stop.
The Biden-Harris administration believes that trafficking in this moral rot is unacceptable at any time, let alone less than one year after the deadliest massacre perpetrated against the Jewish people since the Holocaust, and at a time when the cancer of antisemitism is growing all over the world.
I gotta say, I have not listened to the full interview that Tucker Carlson did.
I did see a lot of people saying that there was a mix of conservative and liberal personalities misquoting what Cooper had been saying in the podcast.
I would say this, for my opinion on this.
I think it's silly to say Churchill was the chief villain.
I understand the point he's trying to make.
Responsibility in war is not, it's not, we're not facing comic book villains, but yo, I gotta be honest, like, dude, Hitler was the chief villain, and I know there's a lot of people who are gonna make arguments about the heterodox nature of things, like, you know, in this.
libby emmons
Yeah, it's called relativism.
Yeah, I know.
This is a postmodern, you know, deconstructivist approach to history from a right-wing perspective instead of a left-wing perspective, but it's still exactly the same thing.
tim pool
Yeah, look, my view is you absolutely can criticize Churchill.
I read Cooper's thread on why he's critical of Churchill, and I'm like, Look, my opinion is that he's critical of Churchill for waging war on a country at war, and he didn't like the tactics used.
Hitler killed people for psychotic reasons.
I mean, look, the argument, I suppose, outside of what he's saying is, if you drive people to the brink of starvation and insanity and demoralization and conquest, and then let it stew, they will bubble up and go insane.
But to claim that Churchill is the chief villain, I think, is just not correct.
libby emmons
Yeah, I agree.
tim pool
Did you guys listen to the podcast?
unidentified
So I listened to clips of it.
I didn't listen to the full thing.
But I just, just looking at it through Analyzing history, you know, I think a lot of Americans don't understand, you know, the Allies did commit some atrocities and then also the fact that the Allies, you know, stood with Stalin and, you know, Stalin committed, you know, the Holodomor, a lot of these different, you know, genocides.
And I think because You know, they were largely with the Allies, and the Allies have kind of wrote a lot of the history, and it's kind of the founding mythos of our, you know, modern politics.
I think, you know, it is important to kind of look critically at that.
You know, I wouldn't agree that Winston Churchill was the main villain of World War II, but I, you know, I, you know, as with any political leader, yeah, you know, they're not perfect, and I think it is kind of important to look at everything that they did.
libby emmons
Even Mussolini was worse than Churchill.
tim pool
So Carlson responded saying, The fact that these lunatics have used the Churchill myth
to bring our country closer to nuclear war than at any moment in history disgusts me and should terrify every
American, he wrote in a text message to the outlet.
They're warmonger freaks. They don't get the moral high ground.
Though Cooper has not directly addressed the White House statement, he mentioned the controversy in an interview in
a Thursday evening ex post.
The furor over my Tucker interview is straight replay of the very fine people hoax.
Totally mendacious, claiming the literal opposite of what was actually said.
Too shameless to care that people can easily go see the video themselves.
During his interview with Carlson, Cooper clarified his comments, saying that, uh, well, here's a quote.
And the next thought comes to your head is that, oh, you're saying Churchill was the chief villain, therefore his enemies, you know, Hitler and so forth, were the protagonists, right?
They're the good guys.
If you think he's a villain, that's not the case.
That's not what I'm saying.
He says, you know, Germany, look, they put themselves in a position, and Adolf Hitler is chiefly responsible for this, but his whole regime was responsible for it.
that when they went into the East in 1941, they launched a war
where they were completely unprepared to deal with the millions and millions of prisoners of war,
of local political prisoners and so forth, that they're going to have to handle.
They went in with no plan for that, and they just threw these people into camps,
and millions of people ended up dead there.
Cooper then argued that components of the traditional narrative of World War II
have become akin to modern American mythology.
I suppose if the greater point he's saying is that Adolf Hitler, in his idealistic fervor and desire for, you
know, seizing back land and expanding German territory,
captured, imprisoned, and then killed millions of people.
Like, I don't know.
I don't really... I just feel like it's...
I don't know, pulling hairs?
I suppose the argument is there are stupid people who don't understand history and think it's some, like, can't-stand-to-hear about, like, laying out what happened and how it happened.
I feel like once you read all of it, you still conclude that Hitler is the bad guy.
libby emmons
I feel that way too.
I think Hitler is probably the evil person.
tim pool
Probably.
libby emmons
There's probably others, like Mussolini wasn't great, Stalin was a terrible guy.
That being said, you need allies in war.
War doesn't mean you team up with your best friends and go on an expedition.
War means that you're struggling to save your nation from obliteration and to save your allies from obliteration, and you have to make really hard choices.
I know this is not a popular thing to say, but I listened to a bunch of interviews with Condoleezza Rice after she left the Bush administration, and I think she's a really interesting, I think she's very intelligent, and I think she thinks things through all the way, which is not something that happens very much anymore.
But she said, she was asked about the Iraq war, right, which was, in my view, like a really bad idea.
And she said, we had to make, we had to decide between several really bad alternatives.
There were no good options.
Right?
Like, in World War II, were there a bunch of really good options, and the U.S.
and Britain just took the ones that were the worst?
I don't think there were good options available.
And I think that that is important to remember, that when you're facing this kind of thing, which we could be facing ourselves, like, are there a lot of good options available when it comes to Israel or when it comes to Ukraine?
Every option leads to some kind of death and destruction and horribleness.
Every single option.
Getting involved is bad.
Not getting involved also leads to bad things.
It doesn't matter what you do, which option you pick, something bad is going to happen.
Whether it's immediately for your nation or somebody else's or for your allies or for all of the children or whatever.
Pick your victim class.
tim pool
I'll put it in a modern context, I suppose.
I can't, because I'm not going to sit here and speak about, I don't know, I read Cooper's thread on Churchill and it's very interesting where he makes the points that blockade, starvation, created desperation and anger and a generation of angry young men and all of these things.
He didn't say that literally, but it's the general idea, I suppose.
And among other things, I'm not, that wasn't the principal message.
But you look at right now with Ukraine, and I think it's fair to say that Putin's the bad guy.
But I don't think it's fair to say that Putin's goal is the conquest of Europe, that he takes Ukraine, he's going to take Poland.
I think that is exaggeration.
Those are exaggerations to justify foreign, namely U.S.
and NATO involvement in Ukraine.
Vladimir Putin invaded Ukraine.
He should not have.
The U.S.
was engaged in a soft power battle that it was winning, and that's preferable to hot conflict.
Vladimir Putin decided hot conflict was better because he didn't want to lose a soft power battle, and I think that is wrong.
So what happens in Ukraine is the East and the West were offering up money and opportunity.
Putin said to Ukraine, if you do a deal with the EU, we will cut off our trade agreement with you.
And then Ukraine said, OK, then we're going to go with the wealthier Western European and NATO.
unidentified
And so Putin got pissed and was like, well, yeah.
tim pool
And his argument was, the Russian argument, That if Ukraine opened up trade to Western Europe, those products would then freely flow into Russia and disrupt their economy, so we had to cut them off.
And then by doing so, lost the soft power battle, offered up nothing in return to the Ukrainians, and then decided to instead invade.
I think that was a stupid thing to do, and I think he's a guy who tries to hold onto power for a long time.
That being said, That doesn't justify U.S.
funding a conflict in a country that is not us.
And the argument they've made is that, well, they may join NATO.
I mean, why are we expanding on Russia's border as it is and creating this potential problem?
That being said, I can understand soft power versus hot conflict, but why are we now, after this is all going down, deciding that we are going to be involved militaristically in this conflict, or that I, or any other American, should support the funding of hundreds of billions of dollars going to this country that is not one of our allies?
libby emmons
There's also this crazy thing now, you know how the U.S.
is giving- oh, you have a fly on your head.
tim pool
There's always a fly in here.
libby emmons
Yeah, I just didn't want to- There's two of them!
unidentified
Because we have the door, everything's open.
tim pool
Now it's on your head.
libby emmons
Oh, come on.
You know I don't like bugs.
What was I going to say?
Oh, so Ukraine's taking all of these weapons from the U.S., but they also put together all these deals with the help of the U.S.
to have defense and munitions companies in Ukraine.
And so now they're making their own weapons.
And you know what they're doing with those?
They're selling them out of the country.
tim pool
Yeah.
libby emmons
This is something we covered at Human Events the other day.
unidentified
Wow.
libby emmons
And it's just like, so you're taking our stuff.
You're taking a bunch of contracts so that you can build your own stuff.
hannah claire brimelow
It's the business form.
libby emmons
And now you're selling that.
Meanwhile you have like... Anyway.
tim pool
We know about the fortifications that never got built.
libby emmons
Yes.
tim pool
I mean, it's crazy to have people on Axe that are just blindly putting up the Ukrainian flags and saying, whoo, we're going to support them no matter what.
And I'm like, we gave a bunch of money to these companies that were fake.
The government knew.
And then the money was taken by criminals and they ran.
It is insanity.
unidentified
And I think these European countries are getting away with murder because we already know they don't pay the dues that they should be paying for NATO.
We're paying all the money.
And then, okay, there's conflict in their backyard.
And what are we doing?
We're sending American weapons and spending, what, I think it's now over $100 billion to fight this war when, you know, it's their backyard.
They should be fighting.
They should be fighting it.
They should be coughing up the money.
Once again, I guess America ends up always being the sucker and paying for everything.
libby emmons
Yeah, that is what happens, isn't it?
We just pay for everything.
I hate that for us.
hannah claire brimelow
Do you think Americans look positively at NATO or no?
unidentified
When I'm talking to voters, people don't bring it up.
But I think more and more people are not looking positive on it because it's like, you know, there's a reason why Trump's comments resonated with people because it's absolutely true.
You know, we are the world's piggy bank and, you know, everyone is just taking us to the cleaners.
And, you know, most of these establishment politicians are totally willing to let that happen because, you know, they're getting money on the side.
They're getting something to kick back and they're totally willing to sell us out just for, you know, pennies on the dollar.
tim pool
Yeah.
Indeed.
And we've, you know, it's kind of wild to me is that I remember doing like the Iraq War stuff.
If you didn't support the Iraq war, you were with the terrorists, you're either with us or you were with the terrorists, and there was this fervent, zealotry, pro-war, and a lot of good people signed up and enlisted because they thought this was the right thing to do, that America needed us, we were attacked and we had to answer, and then we end up in Iraq for some reason.
libby emmons
Yeah, J.D.
Vance and Ron DeSantis both signed up.
tim pool
For that reason.
And now, it's funny because it was the conservatives at the time, it was under Bush, but now it's the Democrats that are pro-war.
hannah claire brimelow
But they're not enlisting.
I'll underscore that.
Yeah, that's true.
libby emmons
But they're like neocons, and Kamala Harris' DNC speech was like a neocon-written speech.
You know?
tim pool
The funny thing is, in that Lichtman thing where he says, won't affect major change, or whatever, and then he claims that she will, or whatever the thing was, they're claiming that Harris, if she gets elected, will affect major change.
Maybe it's because she wants to build a wall and no tax on tips.
libby emmons
Right.
tim pool
That is major change, right?
libby emmons
Yeah, I guess so.
Maybe that's the one.
tim pool
Alright everybody.
unidentified
Make the change for politicians.
Exactly.
Do very little and then pat yourself on the back.
tim pool
And someone pointed out too that the primary challenge is a reference only to the convention.
But I think these things, I don't know if this prediction model applies appropriately
because it's not following the same pattern.
libby emmons
That's totally a lot of unprecedented stuff.
tim pool
Right.
All right, we're gonna go to Super Chat, so smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, and become a member at TimCast.com to support our work directly, because that's what makes this whole machine operate.
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Not so family-friendly, but always fun.
We'd love to see you there.
Smash the like button, as I said.
Let's read.
Ty Groot says, first Super Chat, you win, sir!
Congratulations.
Yeah, I know.
I actually DM'd Jesse Watters.
I was like, dude, that's massively defamatory.
Like, that's not true at all.
The indictment literally says that we were deceived.
And as I stated already, I've been contacted by the FBI as a victim, and they've requested an interview.
I can't say much more than that.
All right, let's go, let's go.
Big Cheese says, Tim, remember Flynn when talking with the FBI.
Ginger McIsaac says, get your sweet bamboo switches ready.
The Panda Express bus is out and about, full of yummy platitudes and regional dialects for any taste sensation.
unidentified
Indeed.
tim pool
Imperial Navy says, I find it interesting that they put out the DOJ indictment right after you said you're suing the Kamala Harris campaign.
I don't know.
I don't think it's related.
Don't know.
Don't know.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
says, Tim, they're too easy to F with.
A simple hi mom and they lose their freaking minds.
We cannot afford to let these lemmings have any more say in things.
I tweeted hi mom.
That's it.
I also tweeted that I'm pro-war now.
I'm for it.
I want to make sure that's clear.
hannah claire brimelow
All of my statements are in the show.
unidentified
War is good.
hannah claire brimelow
All of a sudden, change of ways.
unidentified
War is good.
tim pool
War is good.
We must have more.
Let's go.
Lurch says, Lincoln Park has a new album and a female singer.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
It's kind of weird.
I don't know.
I heard that.
A female singer from Lincoln Park.
It doesn't seem like the same band.
libby emmons
I never listened to them.
I have no idea.
tim pool
They got good music.
They were huge, man.
unidentified
I didn't even know they were still performing.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
They never stopped.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Yeah, I think they have another vocalist.
I think he did both.
I'm not sure.
I like Lincoln Park.
I mean, their old stuff in the 2000s was pretty good.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Alright.
Paul Tascalo says, Tim's reputation gets smeared by low-information media goons claiming he got paid by Russia directly.
It's almost like that was the ultimate plan to harm prominent independent and MAGA voices via a Russia, Russia, Russia hoax.
I don't know.
Look, uh, I'll say this.
Outside of that context.
We have sponsors.
Like, I get hit up by people who are like, are you interested in this company, like, putting their logo on your thing, and like, What do people think we do?
Do we deep dive into these companies and run criminal background checks on their founders, figure out who their VCs and investors are?
So the only thing I can really say is when Lauren Chen, who everybody knew and had a big prominent channel and worked for the blaze, is going to people being like, we'd like to license content.
It's like, oh, okay.
Sure.
And then people are acting like, I'm going to say this, because there's a lot that I can't elaborate on for the most part.
Travis Kelce just got a hundred million dollar contract for his podcast.
Like people need to understand what's going on in the podcast industry and how much money people are getting paid for this stuff.
And his podcast is not even one of the biggest in the world.
I think he gets like, I think he does one every week or other week and he gets like a million, a million hits.
Timcast IRL gets, I think a total of like 3.5 million.
So just consider those numbers.
That's all I can say.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
There you go.
And then, you know, you can infer.
All right.
Super Heavy Booster says, Rep Chris is single and a good looking guy.
Mary is single and pretty, just saying.
We're all thinking it.
hannah claire brimelow
You're all Catholics, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
There you go.
unidentified
Yeah.
Only Catholic in my family.
I'm a convert as of 2020.
hannah claire brimelow
That's a very J.D.
Vance of you.
unidentified
Yes, very J.D.
And I kind of look like him too.
When I was at the RNC, I think it was like, what, 14 times people came up to me like, oh, you look just like J.D.
It's like, well, thanks.
tim pool
Legoma says, Dear Tim, I agree with you about two thirds of the time.
I think you are misguided about foreign policy.
What am I wrong about?
But I know your stance comes from a place of concern for the U.S.
and its people.
You are no traitor.
Please take my money for the eventual defamation lawsuits, and I encourage you to file against certain media personalities.
I guess people are saying that breaking points defamed me?
The Five did.
Right?
Like, I'll just say it again.
The DOJ indictment literally says that we were tricked.
There was a sophisticated scheme to manipulate us.
And that's it, I guess.
I don't know.
unidentified
All right, where are we at?
tim pool
Harlan the Human says, turned 40 today.
Can I get a birthday shout out from Hannah Clare?
Ever since I was a kid, I thought girls with widow peaks were really cool.
Also, Libby rocks.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, happy birthday from me and my widow's peak.
It's always been a favorite feature of my head.
It's for my genetics.
So I guess I made it myself and I hope you have a great year.
libby emmons
Happy birthday.
tim pool
Dark Truth says, Tim, he says, it doesn't take a genius to predict Harris will, quote, win.
Nobody is talking about how Trump is supposed to defeat the fraud machine in November.
unidentified
Meh.
tim pool
Ted Thorne says, they said Kamala has no scandals?
She and the Dems committed a coup over the nominated incumbent president.
Yeah, seriously.
libby emmons
That's a very good point.
tim pool
Yeah.
Awake Not Woke says, Jessica Tarloff just defamed you by name on The Five.
Please look it up.
Just happened.
Jessica?
Jessica?
I saw that, I was watching, I watched the five!
Greg Gutfeld interjected a little bit, I can't remember exactly what he said, but Jesse made a joke about something like, I think he said, are they hiring?
When he saw the numbers, or whatever.
I just want to let the Fox cast members know, have you ever Googled searched the salaries of primetime Fox hosts?
Wasn't Tucker getting like, reportedly 25 to 30 million dollars, Hannity got like 60?
libby emmons
I don't know.
hannah claire brimelow
Hennedy made more than Tucker?
tim pool
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Hennedy's been the top guy forever.
hannah claire brimelow
That's crazy.
tim pool
Tucker's new.
But I don't know, you want to Google search?
Cable TV News salaries?
I mean, these people get paid insane money, and their shows aren't even as big.
We get more Key Demo viewers than most of these people.
libby emmons
Jesse Watters gets $5 million a year, apparently.
tim pool
$5 million?
libby emmons
So he wants to be hired somewhere for less.
tim pool
No, it's the same amount.
libby emmons
Oh, is it the same?
tim pool
Yeah.
libby emmons
Okay.
tim pool
Yeah.
libby emmons
I guess that makes sense.
Yeah.
tim pool
That's funny.
That's why they're acting like they don't make this much money.
They make more than this.
Yeah, it's wild.
Absolutely wild.
I will say this too, for anyone who's wondering, if that, if that amount of money shocks you, you should hear the offers I get from major network corporations, like major corporations and the stuff they offer.
unidentified
You know, the people who, yeah, I'll leave it there.
tim pool
All right, let's go.
George, as my family's business is a diesel truck repair shop, we've been abnormally slow this summer.
Other shops we've talked to are also slow.
Most parts suppliers said their sales are down 20 to 40 percent from last year.
Yeah, you know, when they revised down the job numbers by nearly a million, I wonder if we actually are in a recession, but they're just putting out fake numbers.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Did you find their salaries?
hannah claire brimelow
I didn't find a list.
tim pool
Oh, you couldn't find one?
hannah claire brimelow
I can look up specific people if you want.
tim pool
Let's do Fox News host Salaries.
I mean, you found Jesse Watters.
I don't know if these are real.
libby emmons
I looked up Jesse Watters.
tim pool
Oh, you looked him up specifically?
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
Let's see.
There's an image.
libby emmons
It was the name I knew how to spell the best.
tim pool
And these websites aren't always correct.
So one website says Hannity gets 45, Brett Baer gets 20, Laura Ingraham gets 15, Cavuto gets 7, Gutfeld 7, Waters 5, Sondra Smith 3.
Uh, Pierrot gets 3, Hammer gets 3, Bream gets 3, Martha McCallum gets 2, and Perino gets 1.
Don't know if that's true or not.
These websites usually are not correct.
They say Hannity's net worth is $250 million.
I usually don't believe these things anyway.
hannah claire brimelow
They're saying Diane Sawyers from CBS earns $22 million a year and she's in it worth of $80 million.
It's hard to say though.
tim pool
What source was that one?
hannah claire brimelow
It's thestreet.com.
tim pool
I've got msn.com and what do they say?
hannah claire brimelow
George Stephanopoulos estimated salary of $15 million, estimated net worth of $40 million.
tim pool
Yeah, I've got MSN.com.
Hannity gets $40.
They've got an ad.
Perino gets $6.
Okay, Brett Baier, they say it's $15.
hannah claire brimelow
Anderson Cooper's $12 million, apparently.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
What is this from?
This seems old.
hannah claire brimelow
Mine's from June of 2024.
tim pool
Yeah, this one says Jessie Waters gets $2 million.
Megyn Kelly gets $45 million?
Whoa.
Was that before?
Yeah, while she was there at Fox.
They reported it as $45 million.
NBC offered her $69 million.
What?
hannah claire brimelow
Rachel Maddow's $30 million, apparently.
tim pool
Yeah, that one I think was big public news when they announced that deal with her.
libby emmons
That's a lot of money for her, and she still can't afford a shirt, you know?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Kilmeade gets four at this claims.
I mean, look, let me just say, like, I think people should look this up.
Oh wow.
MSN's claiming Gutfeld's getting $24 million.
libby emmons
Wow.
tim pool
Because he's hosting Gutfeld now, which is beating Colbert.
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
He gets millions.
libby emmons
That's wild.
tim pool
Yeah.
So people who never Google search the salaries of these primetime shows, and let me just say this to you guys.
Those shows are on the decline.
Podcasts are on the rise.
Travis Kelce getting offered $100 million for his show?
I mean, come on.
And look at the numbers that Rogan's pulling in.
We do like $3.5 million per episode.
libby emmons
Yeah, that's wild.
tim pool
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
And Jim pays me $45 million per episode.
tim pool
Per episode, that's right.
hannah claire brimelow
I'm just kidding.
That doesn't happen at all.
libby emmons
That would be really cool.
I would ask you.
hannah claire brimelow
I would love it if that was the case.
tim pool
Ted Thornton says, in the Lex Friedman interview, Trump admitted he lost by a whisker in 2020.
He is catching on that being humble will put him in the White House.
Yeah, that's smart.
He did lose by a whisker.
So whatever people think about fraud or ballot harvesting or whatever, Trump was very close to winning the Electoral College.
Should the Republicans adapt their strategy and prepare for what's going to happen or what may happen, then they have a good chance of winning, unless the Democrats are one step ahead of them already, which may be the case.
It's Time to Stand says, Tim, have you read How Civil Wars Start and How to Stop Them?
I've heard you reference it, but I imagine you calling her out for the obvious and blatant left-wing globalist propaganda.
Is that the former CIA lady?
I don't think I've referenced her book specifically, but maybe the articles about her.
And we've also had...
Stephen Marchand, a couple times, who's written two books, what was the first one called?
The Next Civil War or something, but he had one called The Last Election, and we agree on a lot of the issues, but I think he's substantially ill-informed about what's going on publicly.
He says the right is doing these things, the right will foment civil war, and he's hyper-focused on these fringe stories that aren't really prominent in media.
Of, like, sovereign citizens and weirdos in the country doing weird things that don't impact anything culturally.
Whereas I'm concerned of, like, these large-scale anti-Israel protests that have been going on all year.
Well, you know, whatever.
unidentified
Let's go.
tim pool
Redwing Blackbird says, Did Star Trek DS9 predict the future with the episode Past Tense 1 and 2?
Mark me safe from the bell riots.
Oh, yeah.
libby emmons
Yeah, that was just the other day.
tim pool
Yeah, they're supposed to, according to the Star Trek lore, they're supposed to be major riots, right?
What happens?
libby emmons
So, I mean, how in-depth do you want me to go?
unidentified
Lightly.
libby emmons
Shocking.
Anyway, so Cisco and Dr. Bashir get thrown back in time and they end up in the Sanctuary District, which is a place where they put essentially people who are unemployed and have not been able to find work.
And they say that they're going to help them find work, but they don't actually.
They just call them, you know, untouchables essentially.
And so what happens is some of the Untouchable guys decide to like a hold up.
It's like a bank within the sanctuary district or some kind of like.
It's not a bank.
It's like a little admin office, like the unemployment office.
And they decide to hold it up.
And in history books, which Cisco knows, this guy Jeremiah, Jeremiah Bell, I think it was, anyway, like tried to quell the holdup and save the hostages, but instead, when
they go back in time, Jeremiah Bell gets killed, and so Cisco takes over, and he's like, I
will be Jeremiah Bell and fix everything and save the hostages and whatever.
And so it happens.
But yeah, there were riots inside the sanctuary district where people were saying, we deserve
dignity and respect, and you can't keep us in here anymore, and we just want jobs and
to have like a normal life.
tim pool
Well, that's not till next year in our world, when all of the people they've brought into
the country illegally and the displaced members of these local communities get angry and they
can't handle what's going on.
libby emmons
Or maybe it's just going to start in Aurora, Colorado instead of San Francisco.
tim pool
Yeah, you know what's really crazy about the Aurora story is, these leftist media outlets saying, it's fake news, it's propaganda, Tucker Carlson's lying, and the police are like, please be warned that there are gangs, and here's the gang that's here, and they've been talking about it for like a year.
unidentified
And the mayor of the city, you know, going on all these news stations and talking about it, and it's just like, it's like, they almost just have to just lie about it because it's like, they have no way of defending it.
They're just like, oh yeah, it's a conspiracy, it's all fake, and it's like, Meanwhile, if they talked about it, they could potentially keep people safe.
hannah claire brimelow
Instead, they'd rather keep their own perspective of America safe.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
It's absurd.
hannah claire brimelow
Cool.
Thanks, guys.
tim pool
Let's grab some more Super Chats.
Sean Hanley says, as someone who goes to college in Scranton, PA, don't let the media fool you about Northeast PA being a Democrat strangle.
I've seen about four times more Trump signs than Kamala signs.
Pennsylvanians want Trump.
unidentified
Well, all right.
tim pool
Let's hope that's the case.
unidentified
Well, in 61 days, we'll see.
tim pool
Barely a Millennial says, the jail situation has not floated to the back of my mind.
Rather, I just don't want to think about it.
It's extremely depressing to me.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
tim pool
Korowag says, Libby is onto it.
They put him in MCC.
Use HR-8081 to remove Social Security, I'm sorry, Social Security, Secret Service from him.
I said SS.
And Epstein 2.0 happens.
We know the play.
It's written all over the faces in the books.
Wouldn't be surprised if it happened this way.
libby emmons
It's scary.
tim pool
Very scary.
unidentified
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
And we'll know in like two weeks, right?
What's gonna happen?
unidentified
Yeah.
When is it?
The 18th?
hannah claire brimelow
18th.
libby emmons
Oh, now I remember which lawyer it was.
What's his name?
From Bay Ridge.
hannah claire brimelow
I can picture him.
I don't know why I can't remember his name right now.
libby emmons
He was a nice guy.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, he was super cool.
tim pool
Barely Millennial says, I loathe finding out new undercover stuff.
It's good.
It's true, the transparency, but there are never consequences and it's incredibly frustrating.
That I get.
Yep.
Man.
That's creepy.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
What is this?
Dreamcast Night says Tim Waltz is the other Lebowski.
His tagline should be, get a job, sir, while stealing millions from a children's charity.
What is that?
The other Lebowski?
libby emmons
The other Lebowski, you know, the big Lebowski, was it Jeff Daniels?
So there's Jeff Daniels is Lebowski.
And then there's the, you know, the rich guy whose name is also Lebowski.
tim pool
Oh, I get it.
libby emmons
And so, you know, Jeff Daniels is like, no, I'm the other Lebowski, dude.
tim pool
And then doesn't like the guy pee on his carpet or something.
libby emmons
Yeah, and it really tied the room together.
tim pool
I barely remember that movie, man.
All right, here we go.
Tryin54 says, you're asking the wrong questions, Tim.
Commander-in-Chief only returns salutes already rendered.
Who cares if she returns it?
She's a moron.
My question is, why are the Marines saluting her in the first place?
Do they not salute the VP?
Honest question.
I don't know.
hannah claire brimelow
I don't know.
I don't know what the protocol is.
unidentified
Yeah, I wouldn't know.
tim pool
What is this?
Jimmy says Tim Waltz had the highest long-term care center death rates in the country, higher than Cuomo.
libby emmons
Wow.
unidentified
Wow.
hannah claire brimelow
That's pretty crazy.
Because Cuomo's about to have to talk about this again, right?
libby emmons
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
He's getting called up in front of Congress.
unidentified
Yeah.
libby emmons
Vice presidents don't have to return salutes.
Nor do presidents.
hannah claire brimelow
So that means the Marines have to salute them?
libby emmons
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think she's just posturing a strategy presidential.
Bill Hoekstra says, remember, remember the 5th of November.
and everyone was like, you didn't even return the salute.
Bernie Kerrick said that, former police commish, New York.
tim pool
Bill Hoekstra says, remember, remember the 5th of November.
V for Vendetta.
But that's an actual saying.
The gunpowder treason and plot.
That was Guy Fawkes.
He wanted to install a Christian theocracy in the UK and he wanted a bloat parliament to do it.
It's kind of weird that it's like, I don't know, leftists were celebrating it.
It was largely leftists wearing the Guy Fawkes masks and protesting because they were using this pop culture image.
And it's like, that guy was a Christian theocrat.
And he wanted to overthrow the government for Christian theocracy.
Interesting.
And my understanding is that Bonfire Night in the UK, some like the bonfires to celebrate that he failed, and some like them to celebrate that he tried.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Whatever.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
What have we here?
Never mind, since I turned 70 today.
Canceled Netflix and will use that money to become a member here.
I may be scraping by, but not eating cat food yet and there's still a lot of fight left in me.
Fight cubed.
Thank you very much, sir.
You head over to TimCast.com, click join us, become a member.
We are member supported.
That's how we run the show.
Over at TimCast.com.
All right.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
says, remember PA says they'll take days to count the votes.
Yep.
libby emmons
That's right.
They said don't be surprised if it's not, the results are not available.
hannah claire brimelow
I feel like you shouldn't be able to say that months out from the election.
libby emmons
I think it's a little weird too.
It seems like an admission of some kind.
hannah claire brimelow
You've had years to prepare for this and yet you're already saying, well, we think we're going to be late.
Not the best.
unidentified
And granted it's not a swing state but like Washington just had its primary and like I think like they were still counting like a week and a half after the election and just like you know we live in a first world country and we can't figure out you know how to have results like within a day or like that night.
hannah claire brimelow
Especially for Pennsylvania which has the earliest early voting period like what are we doing everybody?
unidentified
Supposedly, I'm pretty sure that I read something that Pennsylvania changed its law to where they're going to count mail-in and absentee ballots the morning of election day.
So to try to minimize that, I don't... Does that seem better or worse?
hannah claire brimelow
I honestly can't tell you, you know?
Like, the fact that they'll just have these votes sitting there unaccounted for, like, you know what I mean?
I feel like you should be counting them as they come in.
Right?
Otherwise, you're just like, no no no, we're storing these votes, we'll check them later, absolutely no one's going to look at them right now.
unidentified
Well, I know, like, some of the red states, what they do is, like, they don't open them, but they account for all of them.
hannah claire brimelow
I know how many ballots it is.
unidentified
Yeah, exactly.
And then basically, if you haven't gotten in by that point, it's just cut off.
If you haven't submitted your mail-in before the election day, they're just not going to take it.
That's a lot of issues, especially within 2020, where they said, oh, well, if you postmark a mail-in ballot the day before, but it arrives like a week later, we'll still count it because it was postmarked before the election.
As far as I'm aware, there might have been some clamping down on that, but probably not
even enough.
hannah claire brimelow
You would think that voters from both sides would be against it taking days to have results
because if everyone's afraid of instability, wouldn't you want to have an answer as soon
as possible?
Like, why would it?
unidentified
Yeah, you would think.
But, you know.
Even in Missouri, I wasn't a legislator at the time, but I remember when they passed the bill to make sure that it was explicitly clear that you had to have a photo ID to go vote.
Democrats got up and debated it, saying how racist, how bigoted it was.
You know, this should be common sense.
Like, you need to, you know, present your driver's license to get by alcohol, and then, you know, deciding who's gonna run our government.
You know, it's just a terrible, atrocious thing.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, they never want to take away the ID thing when it comes to alcohol.
unidentified
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
Or, like, lottery tickets.
unidentified
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
Is that not racist also, then?
unidentified
Yeah.
It's just absurd, you know?
tim pool
All right, what do we got here?
John Jones says, Alan Littman's no primary contest key is a bit misleading.
It only focuses on the convention vote, so technically it's true for Harris.
That's the question.
Is technically true good enough for his model?
Because if it is, his model's garbage.
Like, we're not dealing with normal circumstances.
Has there been, since 1980, an election where something like this has happened?
unidentified
I don't think so.
tim pool
Isn't this like, is it the first time the president?
libby emmons
This is pretty unprecedented, in fact.
It's very unprecedented.
This is not the kind of thing that we do.
tim pool
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
Except for now, apparently.
libby emmons
Except for now, apparently.
Now political parties can install a candidate who hasn't actually been elected or voted for by anyone.
hannah claire brimelow
Shouldn't it have had to be Dean Harris by that logic?
Like, at least he ran in the primer and got some votes.
libby emmons
Or perhaps RFK.
hannah claire brimelow
But he had exited the Democratic primary at that point.
libby emmons
He exited the Democratic primary because the Democrats were waging legal warfare against him and make it impossible for him to run.
That's why he exited.
unidentified
Right.
hannah claire brimelow
But what I'm saying is like during the primary, Dean Phillips actually garnered a certain number of votes.
So therefore he was second place in the primary.
So even if she is the vice president, he's actually the heir apparent to the Democratic primary.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, I wish he had put up more of a fight, because he was like, you know, he ultimately endorsed Biden, but when he was running his resistance campaign, he was like, look, this guy's old.
Like, he was hitting a lot of good talking points.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
All right.
Warsage says, I know DS9 had the bell riots, but in Next Generation, we find out about the Irish unification, lol.
That's right.
For those that don't know, there's a reference made by Data in one of the episodes about the Irish unification of 2024, in which he explains that in this instance in history, terrorism was used to reunite Northern Ireland with Northern Ireland.
You know, I guess it's because of the troubles at the time when they were writing the show.
But nope, it's 2024 and they are not unified.
unidentified
They do a reverse Troubles to bring them together.
libby emmons
Reverse Troubles.
Terrible.
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
But I don't know if you guys saw, you know, Conor McGregor supposedly running for president of... Oh, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
So, you know, maybe, maybe Ireland will be united under President McGregor.
hannah claire brimelow
What an arc to be a UFC fighter who then comes out and starts talking about politics amid this stabbing incident.
He's also made a ton of money off of his whiskey brand.
And then he's like, next step president.
It is giving Donald Trump it away.
libby emmons
It's a little Trumpy, yeah.
tim pool
This is wild.
Cultured Redneck says, Dave Ehrenberg, state attorney for Palm Beach County, called Tim a useful idiot twice on Megyn Kelly, and then stated Tim walked back his comments on Ukraine Today, which made Dave Tim's useful idiot.
Because I tweeted that thing upon... Yeah, but you were joking.
These people don't have the cognitive capabilities to understand what a joke is.
libby emmons
No, I don't think so.
tim pool
And I put the Ukrainian and Israeli flag in my name.
hannah claire brimelow
It's better for him if you walked it back.
He didn't read it as a joke because he doesn't want to.
tim pool
I don't know that they have the ability to understand jokes.
hannah claire brimelow
No, I think he's self-serving.
libby emmons
It's like, you know, Putin had that thing where he was, like, basically joking, saying he wanted Kamala Harris to be president because she's so good at laughing, yeah, or whatever.
And that got picked up and run with as though it were serious by a number of outlets.
And we were looking at it, and we were like, this seems like it's a joke, and you still have no idea what it is that he would advocate for.
tim pool
I tweeted, I'm pro-war now.
We must fund Ukraine and Israel.
And these people are going to be like, Tim Pool supports the war.
And they're going to write it unironically being like, these people don't understand.
So it's like the RFK Jr.
thing.
When I'm in this Twitter spat back and forth being like, stop insulting moderates to these conservatives.
And then after like four or five tweets, I went, okay, fine.
I'm voting for RFK Jr.
now.
And the media was like, wow, look at that.
He's endorsed RFK Jr.
libby emmons
Yeah, you took a lot of hell for that.
unidentified
I can see it now on Twitter.
You know, Tim Pool, globalist, establishment shill, pro war.
tim pool
It's crazy.
I mean, there are some people tweeting, I can't believe you're supporting Ukraine now.
libby emmons
And it's just like, oh, my goodness, people.
hannah claire brimelow
He's always supported Ukraine.
He talks about it all the time.
I'm just kidding.
Obviously, if you can't tell what a joke is.
tim pool
Well, you know, I think Zelensky's crooked.
I think I'm offended by him trying to come here and demanding our money for his war.
libby emmons
I hate that.
And then how Kamala Harris and Nancy Pelosi, they like strung up the flag of Ukraine on the door of the house.
That's crazy to me.
And I was just like, you guys are literally, this is traitorous behavior.
This is the people's house.
And you don't have the right to do that in the people's house.
That's...
That makes me so mad.
hannah claire brimelow
It should be like a consequence, right?
I mean, you shouldn't be able to do that.
libby emmons
Then Chuck Schumer and they're like waving their little Ukraine flags, you know, on the little wooden stick.
hannah claire brimelow
How many of them have the pocket square of this Ukraine flag?
libby emmons
My goodness.
hannah claire brimelow
You guys know what country you're supposed to represent?
unidentified
I'll say this, even in the Missouri House, like there are Republicans that have Ukraine flag pins.
tim pool
Why?
libby emmons
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
Are they actually Ukrainian?
That's the only time I get it.
Like, if you are actually Ukrainian, okay, you have the vested interest.
unidentified
It's, you know, it's unreal.
It's like, you know, you make state law for Missouri and then... You know the mistake?
tim pool
I'm sorry.
Look, the deep state is bad at what they do.
Guys, maybe some of you figured it out already because hindsight is 20-20.
But you see, the Iraq and Afghanistan thing was off the heels, was after 9-11.
And this country was traumatized by planes crashing into buildings and killing 3,000 people and causing massive damage.
And it hit the psyche of so many people.
And that terror that people felt was exploited so that we would invade Afghanistan and Iraq.
And Afghanistan, some argue there's more of a legitimate reason.
I think it was still wrong.
Iraq was completely nuts.
That made no sense, that invasion.
But people were scared and they were tricked.
You see, the thing is, the Deep State needed a false flag casus belli for Ukraine.
But we didn't have it.
So what they're doing now is they're flying the flags of a country no one knows or cares about and telling you to fall in line.
And it's like, well, maybe guys, if you try to false flag, maybe you can look at Operation Northwoods for some inspiration.
Maybe then many Americans would have been more on board.
unidentified
But you look at the beginning of the conflict, though, and the decline of the public polling.
I remember when it first broke out, even in suburban Kansas City, where I'm from, there were a lot of Ukraine flags.
It was shocking to me.
And I think there's probably a majority of Americans that were pro-Ukraine, like right at the onset.
The media just gaslighting everyone.
And it's just, you know, and I guess you're absolutely right to where the fact that there was no actual attack or conflict on Americans.
You know, Americans are only willing to be the piggy bank for so long.
And they just see this endless supply of money flowing that way and nothing changing.
tim pool
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Chris, do you want to shout anything out?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
I'm Chris Lonsdale, State Representative from Missouri.
You can follow me at ChrisLonsdaleKC on Twitter and Instagram or Chris Lonsdale for State Rep on Facebook.
tim pool
Right on.
libby emmons
I'm Libby Emmons.
You can find me on Twitter at Libby Emmons.
And of course, you can check out everything we're doing at ThePostMillennial.com and HumanEvents.com.
hannah claire brimelow
It's been so fun having you here, Chris, and always nice to see you, Libby.
I'm Hannah-Claire Rimlow.
I'm a writer for scnr.com at Scanner News.
Check out all of their work at TimCast News on the Internet.
It's a really cool team.
Chris Burtman's there, Adrian Norman's there, Chris Garr.
So I'm really glad to be a part of it.
If you want to follow me personally, I'm on Instagram at hannahclaire.b.
I'm on Twitter at hannahclaireb.
Thanks for everything you guys do.
You really are the backbone of the show, in my opinion.
Have a good night.
tim pool
We will see you all over at timcast.com.
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