Knowledge Fight Interactive Search Tool

All Episodes

Previous Next

Aug. 31, 2024 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool

02:01:31

Media PRAISES Harris For BOMBING Interview, Say ITS GOOD She Was Bad w/Natalie Beisner | Timcast IRLMedia PRAISES Harris For BOMBING Interview, Say ITS GOOD She Was Bad w/Natalie Beisner | Timcast IRL

Participants

Main voices

hannah claire brimelow

18:24

raymond g stanley-jr

06:27

tim pool

01:10:58

Large

Audio Only |

Scroll

Show episode speakers

Speaker	Time	Text
unidentified		I'm not kidding.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm looking at the headlines for the Kamala Harris interview.
		First, why was it news that Kamala Harris did an interview?
		Trump does interviews nonstop.
		Nobody cares.
		They just lie about what he says.
		Kamala Harris finally does one interview, and they're forced to write about it because it's shocking.
		And there are a plethora of media out saying that it was actually really good that her interview was really bad.
		It's actually a good thing that she was vague, nondescript, and dull.
		Look, if you watch the interview, she mentioned some policy.
		I would say a lot of it's vague.
		She's gotten some criticism, a lot of criticism from conservatives for flip-flopping, for hypocrisy.
		And then you've got the Democrat media just being like, wow, actually it was really great that she said nothing and it was boring.
		Literally, they call it boring.
		You know, that's actually really funny.
		But this is what gets me.
		Donald Trump keeps giving these speeches.
		Now he's saying, you know, this big pitch from last night that he's going to have government-funded IVF or insurance-funded IVF.
		I'm actually a fan of that, to be honest.
		But again, I'm not like a super-staunch conservative like many of you may be, or some of you may be.
		But who's Trump arguing to when he says this stuff?
		He's not debating Kamala Harris on issues.
		So this is what a lot of people on the right are complaining about.
		Trump is acting like he's in an argument to win voters when Democrats are simply voting for a color and not an actual person.
		And I mean, you could argue that they're voting for Kamala Harris because she's a black woman, but I mean like literally just vote blue no matter who.
		So we'll talk about that.
		We do got big news out of Brazil.
		They've shut down X. They're threatening to shut down Starlink.
		They're trying to seize money from Starlink.
		Rumble's already pulled out.
		And they're going to fine Brazilian citizens if they use a VP to bypass the restrictions to use X, $9,000 a day.
		So this is absolutely wild.
		We'll talk about that.
		Plus, again, Donald Trump's positions.
		Before we get started, my friends, head over to gasbrew.com and buy coffee.
		We got some of the best coffee.
		In fact, we have the best coffee you'll ever have.
		I'm allowed to say that.
		It's legal because it's an opinion.
		Appalachian Nights is delicious.
		Rise with Alberto Jr.
		Stand your grounds, of course.
		But we also have Alex Stein's Primetime Grind.
		Two times caffeine.
		Drink responsibly.
		And I genuinely mean that.
		And then you've got Ian's Graphene Dream.
		Which has actually become very popular, so cool to see.
		And I'll tell you the quick story that when we launched, Rise of the Brutto Jr.
		was meant to be our principal flagship product, but once people started tasting all of our other coffees, Appalachian Nights quickly took over, regardless of what I promote.
		Something similar is happening with Ian's Graphene Dream.
		Maybe you give it a try.
		Also, head over to TimCast.com.
		Click join us to become a member and help us fight fake news every day.
		I do a morning show at YouTube.com slash TimCastNews, 10 a.m.
		Monday through Thursday, actually, not every morning.
		So you should subscribe to that channel.
		And then we do the nightly show, Monday through Friday, where we challenge the narratives, we call out the lies, and it's only possible because we have members who support our work.
		So go to TimCast.com, click join us, and for $10 a month, you will be a part of that mission where we can produce these shows, call it The Fake News.
		If you think the show is good and valuable, then become a member, but also share the show, smash the like button, and joining us tonight on this episode, just before Labor Day weekend, to talk about this and so much more, we have Natalie Beisner.
unidentified		Thanks for having me.
		I'm happy to be here.
		I am a liberal atheist lifelong Democrat.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, atheist.
unidentified		Turned Christian conservative commentator.
		Yes, calm down.
		We're having a diverse show.
		But it didn't happen overnight, but I was pretty far in.
		I was a Hillary Clinton voter and a Planned Parenthood donator.
		And honestly, just in a nutshell, it was 2020 being told that I couldn't go to work and visit my family, but I could go out and protest.
		That was crazy to me, and it was just a domino effect, like a rabbit hole.
		part of the walkaway movement. Brandon, I know he's a friend of the show. We went on
		college campuses together. And I have to add, I am a Timcast fan. I listen every night,
		you're in my ear for like two hours every day. And I only say that because it was like
		integral to my walkaway movement, or to my walkaway story, because I thought I knew stuff,
		but I did not know anything. And to someone totally uninitiated to politics, it was just
		accessible, enjoyable. And I've had a lot of podcasts like fall off, but yours is one
		that I like keep listening to.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, appreciate it.
unidentified		Glad to be here, thank you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And I'll just mention the, uh-oh, atheist thing was not a dig at atheists, it's because this morning on the Culture War podcast, we had this conversation around simulation theory, God, and Ian was saying wacky, so it's, I'm sorry, I just have to plug this, because we had this PhD, artificial intelligence, like, professor. It was so fun. And he's like one of the top guys
		who's written a book on the dangers of AI and then Ian looks at him and asks him
		about like resonating frequencies and crystal sphere computers and this PhD guy
		looks at me like what is he talking about? And I started laughing. I'm like let
		me try and translate what Ian is saying.
		And then I effectively translated it.
		I said, I think what Ian's trying to ask is, the structure of the computer, does it change the way the algorithms function if it's using different materials or it's in different shapes?
		And he goes, oh, yes, the substrate.
		Right.
		Now I understand.
		Anyway, that was a lot of fun on the Culture War podcast.
		But Raymond's hanging out.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		What's up, friends?
		I'm Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
		I appreciate you coming on because I can relate to everything you just said.
		Yeah, I'm here.
		Let's go.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		I like that you hesitated with friends.
		You're like the mayor of the discord.
		You're like, I don't know if I like these people.
		I'm just heckling you.
		I'm Hannah Klob-Rimlow.
		I'm a writer for scnr.com.
		That's Scanner News for all their work.
		At Tim Kast News, I'm so glad you could join us.
		Let's get started.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So, there's a bunch of stories related to this.
		Last night, Kamala Harris finally gave an interview.
		I think the total run time turned out to be 26 minutes, but that's probably including commercials or something, because some people have said 18 minutes.
		And it was vague.
		She did say some things, like, look, I'll try to give credit where credit is due.
		She said she wants to increase the child tax credit to, I think, what was it, $6,000?
		Yes.
		Around there.
		And that's a policy.
		I agree with that policy.
		I like that.
		But when she says things like, her opening line is, You know, Dana Bash says, like, what's the first thing you're going to do?
		And she says, I'm going to focus on helping the middle class.
		And then she starts word salading some gibberish nonsense, which is incomprehensible.
		And then after a few minutes, Dana goes, and what is the first thing you're going to do?
		It's like, oh, well, I've laid out a whole bunch of policies.
		I've already done it.
		And she doesn't describe them.
		But then she gives us one, the child tax credit.
		And it's like, Okay, now she's gotten a lot of criticism, not just from conservatives, but anyone who is sane.
		Unfortunately, most Democrats are just praising her no matter what.
		But here are the headlines.
		Take a look at this.
		It's actually a good thing that Kamala Harris's CNN interview was so dull.
		Donald Trump said that the interview was boring, but that's not a bad thing.
		Okay, here's the AP.
		The interview.
		Kamala Harris's inaugural sit-down was the most notable for seeming ordinary.
		Uh-huh.
		Guardian.
		Kamala Harris's much-hyped first big interview was radically normal.
		This is how they're addressing the fact that anybody who watched it was bored and not informed by it.
		We don't know what she wants to do.
		She's flip-flopped on fracking and no fracking.
		She's flip-flopped on basically all of her policies.
		She said in 2020 that she wanted to decriminalize border crossings.
		Now she's talking about enforcing the law.
		So we haven't actually learned a thing about what she wants to do, and I have no idea.
		The best the media could come up with is, That feeling you get when you watch that, which is vague misunderstanding of what she represents, it's actually a good thing.
		Cause it's, you know, cause she's normal.
unidentified		Well, this is also like a opposition to weird, you know, we're weird and they're, they're normal.
		They're so normal.
		But I thought it was interesting how she basically said, we're going to do all this.
		And then to her credit, Dana says, well, why haven't you?
		And she says, well, we had to fix the economy.
		So she essentially says, we're going to fix the economy, help the middle class.
		But we couldn't do it yet because we had to fix the economy, which we've done.
		It was like an odd opening to the interview.
		Was CNN's big Kamala Harris interview a dud?
		usual she doesn't actually say anything it's a lot of whoever you said that
		before the show started no Serge you said it that that it was she says a lot
		but she doesn't say anything is basically and contradicts herself left
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		and right the closest we got was Washington Post was CNN's big Kamala
		Harris interview a dud or have the Democrats become a party that runs
		against the mainstream news media what The closest we got to them criticizing the fact that it was bad is they just asked whether it was good or bad.
		Can we get anyone in the corporate press to be honest and just say it was vague, it did not inform, we are uninspired by this woman?
		They can't do it.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		Also, not the Washington Post talking about the mainstream media as if they are not a part of that.
		I find this fascinating that, you know, I think there were a lot of political analysts who were getting frustrated with Kamala Harris.
		They will ultimately defend her, but you would watch these, like, NBC morning shows, right?
		And they would be like, well, it's been this many days and she hasn't done an interview.
		They make their bones off of getting these exclusive clips, being able to say, well, I sat down with with Kamala Harris and now only CNN can say that.
		And they have to say, well, we couldn't sit down with her alone.
		She had to bring her best friend forever, Tim Walz, with her.
		And also she kind of said nothing the whole time.
		And we sat in the dark and it was uncomfortable.
		I think it's kind of showing how much the Harris-Walls campaign just expects voters to turn out for them.
		They did this out of obligation, right?
		It's like if you have a friend that you're not really close to anymore, but you know you should probably keep in touch with them, you might set up a really quick coffee.
		But you're not going to spend a whole weekend with them.
		That's effectively what Kamala Harris did to the mainstream media today.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		She's like our boy Frank Luntz.
		You know, we love this pollster.
		He said that if an interview is judged not on policy but a performance, Kamala Harris will be found lacking.
		We all saw it.
		She didn't say anything.
		A lot of word salads.
		A lot of nothing.
unidentified		I didn't explain why.
		I mean, why she changed her position on fracking.
		I didn't say why.
		I just said that I've been consistent since 2020.
		But she didn't laugh.
		She laughed once.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		I think she's really tired.
unidentified		I'll give her credit for that.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		I think she's really tired.
		Every time I see a screenshot of this interview, I think she just looks tired.
		And we talked about this a little bit last night, so I don't want to rehash all the same points, but she's dressed in gray.
		It was kind of a dark room.
		I mean, she looks, even in this shot from Washington Post, she looks smaller next to Tim Walz.
		She does not seem to be in command of this interview.
		And I think there is a level of exhaustion, you know, Campaigning for president is extremely demanding and I don't think she is cut out for it.
		I think there's a reason that her first bid for the presidency didn't work out in 2020.
		Because she's terrible.
unidentified		It just seems so false.
		I know I'm biased, you know, I'm a Trump supporter, but Trump just seems so real.
		And she told that story about we were making pancakes and then they were like, auntie Kamala, Biden's calling.
		And, you know, that was them telling her that he's dropping out or whatever.
		It just doesn't seem real.
		She comes off so fake all the time.
		And, you know, I know we spoke about this prior to hitting record, but I found the most offensive thing was Tim Walz saying that His reasoning for lying to everybody was bad grammar.
		I was more offended by that than anything else, because, and again, Dana kind of like pushes him on it, but I wish she would have asked a third question, because he didn't answer the question about why he lied multiple times about two separate issues, and then it's, oh, I'm passionate, and my wife says I have bad grammar.
		Like, it's offensive to him.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		And if it's not this, they're making fun of my children, right?
unidentified		Like, immediately pivots to being the victim.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He's good at it.
		I mean, this works on weak-willed people.
		So for me, I'm sitting there going, yes, but your bad grammar doesn't explain why you told people you were in war or lied about your rank.
		And he's not going to answer it.
		And this is the point I was making in the intro to the show.
		Look, I don't know what's going to happen in November.
		I want Trump to win, obviously.
		But I am concerned that whoever's advising him, even though he brought in Corey Lewandowski and things have improved in certain areas, he still thinks he's arguing to win.
		Right, so this whole IVF thing, which again we'll get into in a little bit, it's Trump going up on stage and he's saying, Kamala's bad for this reason, here's why you should vote for me for this reason, and Kamala's just...
		Dancing and cackling because people aren't voting for Kamala.
		I think I was talking to Ian earlier, he's not here, but he was telling me that when he talks to his friends and family, they say, just vote for the party.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And I'm like, that's exactly right.
		They don't care what Kamala represents.
		They are voting for the party.
		So there's no argument to be made to them.
		So Trump doesn't need to constantly keep arguing these points.
		When Tim Walz goes up there, excuse me, And says, well, I've got bad grammar.
		And then he moves on, but they attack my kids.
		It doesn't matter what he said.
		He could literally come out and say, I was serving in a wartime insecurity for the United States while it was actively in a conflict.
		And though our risk was substantially smaller, not in not in the war zone, we were in war.
		And then she would've been like, okay.
		And Democrats would've just clapped and be like, I accept that answer.
		He could literally just look at her and burp.
		And they would go, haha, you, yeah!
		And they would cheer for him and they would say, he shoved it back in their face.
		They shouldn't even be asking.
		No matter what he says, Democrats are gonna hoot and clap.
unidentified		Speaking as a former TDS sufferer, you are correct.
		It does not matter.
		It literally does not matter.
		But, I mean, what should Trump do instead?
		I mean, what does he do instead of arguing these points?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So it's not so much that he shouldn't argue.
		It's that he should argue a point to the American people instead of argue against Kamala Harris.
		That's fair.
		And so specifically what I'm saying is the reason why Trump is going for this IVF thing, it's government-funded IVF, it doesn't move the needle.
		What he's trying to do is he's trying to basically go at the media narrative they're presenting.
		They say Donald Trump wants to ban IVF.
		It doesn't matter if they said QVC.
		Democrats are going to go, he wants to ban, insert random object.
		It doesn't matter.
		Trump is bad.
		So Trump then says he wants to support IVF.
		Why?
		Or he wants government funded.
		It's a big ask type maneuver where he jumps over their talking point and then he can try and be like, look, they're lying.
		I said this.
		Now, maybe there's an argument for that.
		A regular person who doesn't really pay attention might have a walk-away moment when they're sitting there being like, Trump wants to ban IVF.
		And then someone says, here's a video of Trump saying he wants government-funded IVF.
		That could be the strategy.
		And I respect that.
		But what I'm saying is, should it be the case that he's actually trying to argue against them, outmaneuver them, like out-argue them, not some 5D chess, trick people into waking up from TDS?
		I don't think it's effective in this regard.
		And he needs to focus on, your prices will come down with me.
		And he's done a lot of that that's really, really good.
		I'm just saying in that one particular instance, I don't see it as effective.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		I don't know about yourself, but Trump did not wake me up at all.
		Listen to him speak.
		I did not wake up from watching podcasts like yourself and Dan Bongino's woke me up.
		Whereas what Trump's policies and what he said did not have any impacts on what I was thinking and why I changed the way I was thinking.
		I don't know about yourself.
unidentified		No, but once you, like, do the research and you realize, oh, he didn't actually say that.
		Oh, he didn't actually.
		All of it's a lie, you know, so he didn't wake me up, but seeing the truth.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Real quick, I just want to say, if that is the play, and I would say this.
		The one thing Trump has done well with that maneuver is given you all listening right now the opportunity.
		So when one of your friends or family members says he's going to ban IVF, you can be like, huh?
		He said he wants the government to pay for it.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That being said, I've already seen how rank and file Democrats and Democrat voters have responded.
		Trump's lying.
		That's it.
unidentified		Well you're right because I actually do agree with you because she's still tweeting out, or whoever runs her account, he wants to ban abortion.
unidentified		And how many times, and we're all, a lot of conservatives are mad at him that he doesn't actually want to ban abortion.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So who's he arguing to?
unidentified		But so she keeps saying the lie and you're right that it doesn't work.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		But she needs him to be the villain, right?
		Everything bad that you fear most has to be Trump's fault.
		I mean, she'll refer to everything as a Trump abortion ban, even when they are state-level initiatives that he has no involvement in.
		But it always ultimately has to be Trump's fault, because that's how she is planning to win this election, by not presenting her own policies.
		That way you can never be mad at her, and by pointing the finger always at Trump as like, we must run away from this person.
		But I do want to know, how did you contract TDS?
		Like, when did you notice it?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		She was bitten by a... Yeah, what were the first symptoms?
unidentified		Monkeypox.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		You said you were a lifelong Democrat.
unidentified		It's reflexive.
		I mean, I think it's a default.
		I think, especially, I'm a millennial.
		I think a lot of millennials are.
		I grew up in Southern California.
		I think a lot of... I was an actress for a long time.
		You're a liberal.
		My parents were Republican, but we didn't really talk about it, which I know you address sometimes, Tim, that you think we should talk about a little more.
		I think people just reflect.
		You have to work hard to not have TDS, but everything, the media, celebrities, everything is telling you to have it.
		And so you have to do work to not, and it's just easier to not.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		It's very true, very true.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		You said your parents are Republicans?
unidentified		Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		So when you were like, I hate Donald Trump, did they push you on it or did they sort of let go because it's hard to have these conversations with family?
unidentified		No, it kept me grounded because I was like, they're lying about Trump supporters because my parents aren't like that, you know?
		So I cannot understand these people that are like, I don't talk to my dad anymore because he's a Trump supporter because I love my dad more than I hated Donald Trump and I hated, I hated Donald Trump.
		You know, but it kept you grounded of like, okay, so they're not all as bad as they say, because my parents aren't like that, you know?
		I wish more families kind of had that going on, but it doesn't seem like it.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		But most people don't give the benefit of the doubt if you're related or your best friend is a transporter.
unidentified		Hard for me to fathom, though.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If parents do not transfer their principles to their children, their children will go towards whatever the media tells them to do, and the media is going to lie to them.
unidentified		Yeah.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		Nowadays it's social media, not media media at all.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		And the crazy thing is, it is a cult.
		And the way you save someone from a cult is you remove them from the people who are attacking their mind in this way.
		But what do you do with social media?
		Take their phone away?
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So now people are surrounded on social media not just with lies, but many people know they're being lied to and they know it's wrong.
		They're just scared to break away.
		And so, I mean, you see this with big corporations.
		They're less susceptible because they're not humans, but they still have this, you know, logical cost-benefit analysis of, hey, we're being attacked by more people on the left than the right, and the right's not buying our product anyway, so do whatever the left wants.
		So to a single human, they're thinking, all of my friends are liberal, I can't lose my friends and my family.
		And so they'll accept it, even if they think it's wrong.
unidentified		It really is like a cult though.
		I know you guys have spoken on this but because my whole thing was just questioning COVID and BLM.
		I didn't like become a Christian conservative you know like I just had questions and you can't question you know and I know so many people have that same experience and I mean that's a cult so.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We've got actually a big breaking story from just about an hour ago from the Boston Herald.
		Police taser subdue a man who stormed the media area of a Trump rally in Pennsylvania.
		We actually have the video, it's going viral.
unidentified		What?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Brandon Strock says, does the Secret Service exist at all?
		Another violent Democrat tries to attack President Trump at his rally.
		So this is a minute long.
		You can see the man right here.
		Let me let me I don't want I don't want to be too little play this video
		So I don't believe this man is trying to attack Trump he's He's attacking the press area.
		They grab him and rip him down from what appears to be... He's trying to climb up on top of the press area for some reason.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		Don't tase me, bro.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know that he's a Democrat, but I think it's a reasonable assumption that he's not a Trump supporter.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		That's fair.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		Very fair.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But this stuff has me worried.
		So the Boston Herald says, a man at a Donald Trump rally in Pennsylvania stormed into the press area, was surrounded by police, and eventually subdued with a taser.
		The altercation came moments after Trump criticized major media outlets for what he said was unfavorable coverage and dismissed CNN's fawning for its interview Thursday, blah blah blah.
		The man made it over the bicycle rack, ringing the media area, and began to climb the back side of a riser where television reporters and cameras were stationed.
		People in the area tried to pull him down.
		The crowd cheered as a pack of police led the man away.
		So, you know, I don't see this as a guy attacking Trump, but the security breach is still worrying.
		And there are a lot of people who are concerned.
		In fact, there was a Secret Service agent who wrote a letter after the assassination attempt on Donald Trump saying, we can expect this to happen again before the election.
		And you see a story like this, and I'm kind of worried that Trump's security is at great risk.
		Look, this guy should not have been able to get in the press area.
		Maybe they're thinking Trump's not there, so it's not a high priority, but any kind of security breach at these areas are worrying.
unidentified		Yeah.
		Did you see that?
		What did Donald Trump say?
		There's nowhere more fun to be than a Trump rally?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is that what he said?
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		Because he takes all this stuff in stride.
unidentified		He does take it in stride.
unidentified		It is worrying, but he definitely does.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		You think he was a Trump supporter?
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		Because if Trump's talking about the media being bad and then the guy goes, media, yeah.
unidentified		Well, how did they even get it?
		Oh, he didn't have it.
		Okay.
		Yeah.
		Yeah.
		That's still crazy.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I don't know.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		I feel like that logic follows and I get what you're saying, but I also feel like a lot of, I don't, I don't see very many Trump supporters wanting to disrupt a Trump speech.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		No, it's usually fine.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		I could understand if he was, like, yelling at them as they, like, took their seats, right?
		Being like, you guys are the worst.
		But, you know, it actually is more distracting from Trump if you were supportive of him to do that kind of thing at his rally.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		People are crazy.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, people are crazy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Do you guys feel like the risk is or the probability that Trump faces another attempt on his life before the election?
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		I'm going 66%.
unidentified		Easy.
unidentified		66%?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's a very specific number.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Very specific, yeah.
unidentified		66.66?
unidentified		I mean, sure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's go straight two-thirds.
unidentified		Well, given the fact that we have no answers about anything, have people been fired over July 13th, finally?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Suspended, I think.
unidentified		Suspended.
		It took a very long time.
		And if you watch those congressional hearings, it was nothing.
		It made no sense.
		I had more questions watching those hearings than I did before I watched the hearings.
		It was, it was absolutely ridiculous.
		So given that, and then the guy, Ronald Rowe, I think is in charge now.
		Is he the acting director still?
		He doesn't know what the heck's going on either.
		You know, he seemed like a little more likable than Kimberly Cheadle, but I still think he's blowing smoke.
		So if he's in charge right now, then yes, I would say it's 66% or higher.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Adrienne Curry in the chat says 100%.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I agree.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		It's a good chance.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I agree.
		I don't want to go too high.
		I'm worried about agreeing, but I think it's high.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Considering, like you mentioned, we don't have any answers.
		They're saying they don't know the motivation, the stories.
		It's nonsense.
		It does not make sense.
		And then you take a look at Trump's victories in courts versus what they're trying to do.
		Jack Smith is told by the Supreme Court, you can't do this.
		So he files a new indictment and then appeals to try and go after Trump for the documents again?
		It doesn't matter what the Supreme Court says.
		They're going to stop at nothing to get Trump.
		We are two and a half weeks away from Trump sentencing.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		This is actually the only time I think the mainstream media does something, it's not really to help Trump, but it sort of offers him a level of protection because other than just a deranged person who feels it upon themselves and need to like do something violent, when Trump was attacked in July, he was ahead in the polls.
		Everyone knew he was doing well.
		It was very clear that he was going to dominate Biden in the general election.
		But now the mainstream media tells us all the time that, you know, well, Kamala is surging the polls and she's actually closing a lead and actually maybe she's ahead here.
		So in some way, someone who is feeling desperate doesn't feel the same kind of pressure they would have before under Biden.
		Other than just like ideologically TDS, he's horrible and like a screw loose kind of thing where they feel called to do something terrible.
		Some of the pressure is conveniently off.
unidentified		I think it's still so close though and people are worried.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		I just don't trust the Secret Service right now.
		That's the big problem.
		I don't know what people are going to do.
unidentified		I'm just offering that as like an alternative, you know, things are a little bit more... Did you hear him say, I'm sorry, Ronald Rowe say it was a failure of imagination that we wouldn't have thought this would happen?
		And like, isn't that your job to have a little imagination that people do bad stuff?
		So yeah, I mean, I don't think people, I think both sides are worried.
		And if someone's crazy, someone's crazy and it'll still happen.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		That's a good point.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		Like he was 98% chance of going away over Biden because Biden's gone.
unidentified		Which is why when they say it was fake, it makes no sense because he was doing... I've never understood that.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		When they're like, he faked this.
unidentified		He was ahead and he was... He should have waited until October to fake it.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		He didn't have any reason to fake anything.
unidentified		No, because all the news was how terrible Biden's cognitive ability was.
		And I would have waited until October to fake this.
		He didn't fake it.
		We all know that.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		The media covering criticism of Biden helped him.
		Why would you disrupt that coverage?
		It doesn't make any sense.
unidentified		I am very worried for Donald Trump.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm worried for the country.
unidentified		That too.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		I don't think either side will.
unidentified		Maybe I'm thinking too much and it'll just be business as usual.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm not just worried for the country.
		I mean, the world is on the brink, you know, and so it's not just Donald Trump.
		Trump needs to win for a variety of reasons, one of which is what we are seeing internationally with the UK arresting people over social media, with Brazil's actions, which we'll get into in a little bit.
		You're not going to be able to travel internationally At all.
		And I'm not talking about public figures.
		You're a regular dude.
		And you post, uh, what is it, there's a podcast in Australia, I think the story was, this is what it was, it was in Australia, and in the podcast they referred to a trans woman as a guy.
		And it's like a, it's a guy, it's just a guy.
		It's a guy, he's balding.
		And he just looks like a guy.
		And then the guy's like, no, you have to call me a woman.
		So the court said, take the episode, delete the episode.
		You're gonna be on your Facebook, in the United States, and you're gonna write something like, You know, this guy's a bloke or whatever.
		And then you're going to go on vacation to the UK and get off the plane and they're going to walk up to you and they're going to arrest you.
unidentified		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And I'm not kidding.
		I agree.
		Because that guy in the UK already said they want to extradite people from other countries and arrest them.
		And so there is a concern, I don't know how much I believe this is likely in the immediate future, that under a Kamala Harris term, presidency, and maybe two, who knows, she will actually say, okay, we have extradition treaties with the UK and you've committed a UK crime, so off you go.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no more dank memes.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		No more dank memes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's how they bypass the U.S.
		So basically, the issue you have is with Elon Musk and with Rumble, people are getting their free speech back.
		To certain degrees.
		How did they get around that?
		You broke Canadian law.
		You broke UK law.
		You were posting in a public forum, accessible by people in the UK, and you violated their laws, so now you have to answer to them.
		Because the UK is saying they want to extradite people from other countries.
		But even outside of that, you know, we're talking about the risk to Trump's life.
		I've been thinking about some regular guy is going to go on vacation to Ireland, he's going to go on vacation to Australia, he's going to get arrested.
		No one's going to come to help him.
		The state of the world is falling into absolute chaos.
		If Trump doesn't win, it's not just a question about is our country in trouble, our democracy, whatever.
		Are we going to fire bad elements within the FBI or something?
		It's quite literally World War III and global totalitarianism.
unidentified		Yeah, which, well, before I would have said I don't believe you, but after, you know, the things we've seen in the last four years, I feel like I have a little PTSD, like anything can happen, like innocence is lost.
		But that is why, and I know we're maybe getting to this, but that's why it bothers me a little bit when conservatives are arguing over things like abortion and IVF, because this is kind of a single issue election and the choice is clear, like fundamentally, regardless of how conservative you are.
		And I wish people could just get on board with that, because it is frightening.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		Do you want to live in a dystopian future or do you want to live in a free America?
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		Make up your mind, folks.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		When Harris had her shortlist of VP candidates, one of the things that I heard often was that she was going to pick someone who had more international diplomatic experience that basically could bolster her where she is particularly weak, which is meaning that she's a terrible communicator and also doesn't have a lot of experience on the international stage.
		She then picked Tim Walz, who I don't think served any of that purpose, which means that they're running a ticket where they're saying, you know, you're looking around the world and you're seeing all these global crises, tension between China and Taiwan, Israel-Palestine, everything that's going on especially in Ukraine, and their current plan, if you're a Democrat, is to send Kamala Harris and or maybe Tim Walz to negotiate on our behalf.
		Is that enough to wake someone up or is it just sort of like close your eyes and pretend that she's a girl boss enough to handle it?
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		Well, we've been sending Blinken and he's failing left and right.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		China's telling Blinken... He's not good, but at least like he has a resume behind him.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		Neither one of them really do.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		True.
unidentified		I don't think they care.
		I don't think they care.
		I mean, these people hate Donald Trump.
		They despise him.
		And I don't think they care.
		I don't think they think about this stuff.
		I don't think they realize that we're on the brink of, like, World War III or anything.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		Because they don't pay attention to the news?
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		Like, Ukraine was before and we have forgotten about it?
unidentified		Or why?
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		Well, no.
unidentified		Tim, you have said that if you read the news, you're conservative.
		That is true.
		I did not.
		I can't speak for every Democrat.
		They don't know what's going on.
		I didn't read the news.
		I didn't know anything.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think it's more fair to conservatives to say if you read the news then you're on the right.
unidentified		Okay, yeah.
unidentified		I misquoted you, sorry.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You might not have.
		I may have said something to that effect.
		What I would clarify now is the reason why I often say I'm not a conservative like I did in the beginning of the show is for the sake of conservatives, not liberals.
		Conservatives know I'm not a conservative, and they tweet at me all the time because the left will be like, they'll write these stories that Tim's a conservative podcaster, and then all the conservatives are like, no, he's not, he's a liberal, you're just nuts!
		And I'm like, so it's to their credit, I guess.
		But then the left says Tim's lying to conservatives to convince them that he's what a liberal should be.
		It's utter nonsense.
		But conservative means something.
		And the reality is, there are post-liberals, disaffected liberals, and moderates that are voting for Donald Trump.
		They consider themselves either center-left or even social liberals like the Democrats.
		Many Democrats used to be.
		But the Democrats are insane.
		And not only that...
		I think it is absolutely the case that you could be pro-affirmative action, pro-choice.
		I don't know about extremely pro-abortion.
		In fact, I gotta be honest, you could probably be pro-abortion to a greater degree than anyone on the right.
		You can be absolutely in favor of affirmative action and DEI policies and still vote for Donald Trump.
unidentified		That's RFK.
unidentified		RFK is pro-affirmative action and pro-choice.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because when RFK looks at Donald Trump, he's thinking to himself...
		This is a guy who called Columbus Day Indigenous Peoples Day.
		But he's thinking to himself, the Democrats are pro-war, pro-censorship, pro-Big Pharma.
		Donald Trump is...
		Unfortunately for him, he's...
		Actually, I don't even think RFK views him as a lesser of two evils.
		I think the people who have crossed the aisle to vote for Trump view him as a net positive defense against this corruption.
unidentified		The reality is Trump's a moderate on most things.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		I think they look at Trump as a long term investment in the future.
		You know, Kamala Harris represents a level of destruction and I think chaos more than anything else.
		And people don't want that right now.
		I think both political leaders don't want that and definitely the American public.
		Kamala Harris does this dance where she says, oh, well, I have presented policies.
		But also, we couldn't implement them.
		We had to fix the economy.
		But also, I'm going to do something new on day one.
		But also, I've been here for three years.
		I mean, nothing she says is consistent.
		She can never really inspire confidence with this sort of wishy-washy, sort of defending herself, sort of, you know, acting as if she's a leader position.
		And I think when people who don't necessarily love everything Donald Trump stands for, Look at him.
		They realize that he is able to negotiate with world leaders.
		He is going to deliver on certain economic promises that he already had a stable economy.
		And so it's more like it's better to choose this person, the person who can't give you any information, even though every major outlet in America is begging her for the time of day.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's jump to everyone's favorite subject, abortion.
unidentified		Yippee!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		From sdnr.com, Trump says Florida's six-week abortion ban too short amid conservative infighting.
		The GOP candidate's comments follow a prominent anti-abortion advocate withdrawing support.
		Now this story went massively viral.
		Donald Trump said that he's going to be voting no on the proposition in Florida, and so you've got a bunch of conservatives cheering him on now saying he is the pro-life candidate, and the reason they're doing it is because pro-life activists are threatening to withhold their vote from Donald Trump.
		During an interview on Thursday with NBC Politics, the former president was asked if he plans to support a new amendment on the Sunshine State's ballot this November.
		He changed.
		Trump War Room just posted it and Charlie Kirk reposted it.
		Today he said he's voting no on it.
		week, six week is too short. It has to be more time. And I've told them that I want
		more more weeks. When asked if he would support the amendment, his home said he says, I'm
		going to be voting that we need more than six weeks. That sounds like he's he's he's
unidentified		he's changed. Yeah. Trump war room just posted it and Charlie Kirk reposted today. He said
unidentified		right. He's right. But no, it was kind of Thursday. Friday was a little bit of a shift,
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		right? That was the and that was the big news that everybody was going viral.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Or that was going viral with everybody where... Let me pull it up.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		And I don't know how you can vote for more weeks if the guideline is six weeks.
unidentified		That's not an option.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to vote for 1A.
unidentified		I think the amendment is you cannot make, what, any law prior to viability or affecting if the mother's health is in danger.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So this was the clip.
		This is from War Room today.
		A major win.
		Trump saying nine months is just a ridiculous situation.
		Eat crow haters.
		Trump did the right thing.
		So this was the big story.
		Trump ultimately coming out.
		But again, I find it I mean, we're in trouble when we have pro-life activists looking at Trump and saying they're going to withhold their vote and Democrats literally taking it like, OK, I'm earmuffs for your kids.
		OK, if your kids are listening or in the room, you can earmuffs them now.
		Democrats are literally having gay sex in the Senate building and they don't care.
		They don't care.
		They'll vote for these people.
		To be fair, the guy got fired.
		But you've got this debauchery and Trump is trying to have an end and the right is infighting.
unidentified		I can't stand this.
		This is crazy and I'm as pro-life as they come.
		I know I said I donated to Planned Parenthood.
		I don't even believe in exceptions for assault but that's not in this election cycle.
		It's so crazy to be fighting about this right now because every election is a choice.
		I'm for Donald Trump but every election between two men or people is a choice between the lesser of two evils.
		It's always been that way and if somehow DeSantis were our nominee because something to happen to Haley and Trump And he ran on, I'm going to ban abortion.
		He would lose.
		And it's not Trump's fault that abortion bans are not popular with the American people.
		That's my fault as a pro-life activist.
		That's anyone's fault who's against abortion and knows the truth about abortion.
		And it's kind of like we're looking for someone to blame because he hasn't shifted.
		He's always been for, what, the first trimester, pretty much.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Old school Democrat.
unidentified		Exactly.
		A lot of people are for that.
		Most Americans are.
		And I don't agree with it, but it's not his fault that it's unpopular.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The issue here with Trump, and this is what I was bringing up before about the argument, is he should say nothing on any of it.
		He should just not bring it up.
		There's nothing to be gained from entering an abortion debate.
		Democrats don't care.
		Trump's going to say something like, I want government to pay for IVF.
		And then the Democrats are going to say, yeah, he said that, but in Project 2025, they're
		going to ban abortion.
		And then they go, whoa, and that's Trump's plan?
		He's lying to you.
		And so Trump is arguing with a cult.
		And no matter what he's going to say, they're going to say he's lying.
		He's not convincing them.
		I don't think I get why he's a moderate on the issue.
		Saying it should stay with the states is fine, but the more he says it, the more he brings it up, the more he opens up vulnerabilities.
		Out of sight, out of mind, as it goes.
		If Donald Trump did not comment on this at all, and instead said something about the border that was controversial, he would put something on Kamala Harris instead of on himself.
		Democrats want abortion.
		They want it unrestricted across the board forever.
		Trump is now entering an argument amongst conservatives.
		Trump, instead of talking about abortion, could, as soon as someone asked him about abortion, he could have been like, man, it's tough to think about because of what's going on in the border.
		I got to be honest.
		What we need to do is insert migrant issue, generate controversy about a migrant issue that forces Kamala Harris to respond or react to that will say Trump is lying or something else.
		But that's something that is more easily brought up in the minds of people because what Kamala Harris is doing is unpopular with the border.
		But Democrats want abortion, and women want abortion, so Trump is in a difficult position trying to argue this with anybody.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		Well, the Harris campaign brings this up because they think, you know, it rallies support among their base, and also it makes Republicans infight.
		Trump should, when asked about this, say, you know, abortion is such a complicated conversation, we all want to preserve life, and, you know, actually I think that's a really, that's a good reason why we should talk about what's going on in Israel-Palestine, because so many people are losing their lives there.
		And, you know, I would really like to see stronger leadership from the Biden-Harris administration.
		Like, he should push her on this issue because that's what Democrats infight about.
		Harris, she flip-flops on it so intensely, but there is a huge faction of progressive young voters, which, by the way, her major gains after the convention were among young voters.
		And that doesn't mean that they're huge gains, that's just who she gained with.
		But those are the same people who are saying, we're going to sit out.
		We would rather not vote at all than vote for someone who doesn't support Palestine.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Imagine when they come up to Trump and they were like, I wanted to ask you about your position on abortion.
		That's generating a lot of controversy.
		And he just looked at him and went...
		Israel-Palestine.
		It's tough, isn't it?
		I wonder what Democrats are going to do about that one.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		If Democrats really cared about women, they would really care about what's going on in these overseas conflicts.
unidentified		Yeah, that's like their abortion.
		It breaks them up.
		If X is any indication, there's a lot of DeSantis people who were already not going to vote for him because of this, and they can't get over the fact that it wasn't DeSantis.
		It's just crazy to me because your options are codifying Roe.
		Right.
		He's literally the president who got Roe v. Wade overturned.
		Pro-lifers are mad, and that's crazy.
		and I wish every conservative could just like, just stop listening to what he says.
		When he tweeted out about, I'm going to protect reproductive rights, I wish he wouldn't have
		done that. But like, just ignore it and understand that he's the most pro-life candidate that we've
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		got right now. Right. He's literally the president who got Roe v. Wade overturned.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right. Pro-lifers are mad. And that's crazy. That's like 50 years of precedence that he reversed.
unidentified		He is the only sitting president to attend the March for Life.
		I mean, he is the most pro-life president of our history.
		And I also think it's important to note that just because we compromise once, that doesn't mean it's set in stone.
		Like, you shift the needle incrementally to the right, hopefully, because that's the same way they shifted it to the left, incrementally.
		It wasn't overnight.
		When I was growing up, it was safe, legal, and rare, and now they won't even say rare anymore.
		And it seems like a lot of conservatives just want to shift it overnight all of a sudden.
		So just because we compromise now doesn't mean God's going to smite us.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Maybe Trump could pull a big ask on abortion, and then once Kamala says she wants unwritten abortions, Trump could say he wants mandatory abortion.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Just go well beyond the Democrat position, and then force them to try and one-up him.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		No, he'd upset the pro-life crowd.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		They're already mad the way it is.
		And they got what they want with Roe vs. Wade, and they just want more and more and more.
		I don't understand their policy, the way they're thinking.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		Because they want there to be panic.
		That's the big thing.
		They want women to be so scared that anyone who is Republican, whether it's Trump or anyone who runs for president after him, anyone who runs on the state level and is endorsed by Trump or vaguely reminds them of all of any sort of Republican man, they are actually a threat to your personal safety.
		Because you vote differently when you think you're under direct attack, and they've only been able to sell this, especially to women, with the abortion issue, which is also stupid, but that's a complaint against women, not against Democrats.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Trump's trying to play the moderate, and it might be a good play, but he has to stabilize.
		He had, like, you know, yesterday saying six weeks is too short, now saying, no, no, I'm gonna vote no on it.
		It's relatively vague.
		But he needs to just be a stable, moderate candidate where he, like, I don't think abortion matters to most moderates.
		I don't think abortion is a top issue.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		I give zero shit.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		We would already know it's a top issue.
		It never was.
		It's crime.
		It's the economy.
		It's the border.
		Those are his best issues.
		They're dragging something up that's at the bottom of the list because this is the only thing Kamala Harris knows how to talk about.
unidentified		Yeah, he probably shouldn't have commented on how he's going to vote in Florida.
unidentified		That's really no one's business.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But the IVF thing, too, is kind of weird.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right?
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		What do you mean?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He wants the government to pay for IVF.
		Why announce that?
		That's a radical policy.
unidentified		I think that's a good thing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I agree with it.
unidentified		And Vance has kind of a stigma, which I don't think is deserved, that he's against IVF.
		And I think both of those are good things to come out and say.
		And I actually am pro-IVF, unlike a lot of pro-life people.
		So, again, I don't know.
		I think it's something you can show to someone and be like, actually, he wants insurance to pay for IVF.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But I just don't see that as a big issue that wins over voters to say that, who is he targeting?
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		I don't think about it at all.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		That's why we're expanding the abortion issue, right?
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		Like IVF only became an issue because they still wanted to talk about abortion.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, right.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		But they're not talking about birth control access, right?
		No one is arguing.
		If Democrats really cared about women or any of this, instead of pushing for IVF, they would talk about all of the lack of information women have when it comes to birth control, right?
		And they would talk about that nonstop, but it's not about that.
		It's about fear.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Why doesn't Trump just come out and say, We're going to make the government pay for your house.
		It's a free house.
		We're going to build more.
unidentified		Why?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If you're going to have the government pay for anything, and we're talking about IVF treatments that some people say it's $40,000 to $100,000.
		Sure, Trump says we're going to buy you a house.
		If Kamala Harris wants to play the game we're going to pay for student loans, despite the Supreme Court saying no, Trump should either play that game or not play this game at all.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		I was listening to this report today talking about Trump saying that he would be for the government paying for IVF.
		And this reporter was like, that would cost something like $7 billion.
		And meanwhile, the Biden student loan plan that just got blocked by a judge would cost $230 billion.
		I don't know if the government should be involved in subsizing everything.
		I'm actually not against IVF.
		I just think we need to think about it ethically and be critical of it.
		But you're saying that he is going to spend seven billion dollars to create potentially families in America.
		Meanwhile, you're just authorizing Joe Biden to give away 230.
		Like, it doesn't make any sense.
		There's no logic.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It was really funny when he was at his rally earlier and he was like, we need more babies, more babies.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I was like, actually, that was really funny.
unidentified		If nothing else, he's taking back IVF from the Democrats because they act like they own IVF and they don't.
		It's not abortion at all.
		There's a fundamental difference between trying to create a life and intentionally destroying one.
		And so at least he's taking back and acting like, no, actually, Republicans, we can own IVF too.
		And it's not just Democrats.
		I think it's a good thing.
		And we do need more families.
		And I think infertility impacts Yeah, and I just think we should talk about it all the time.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		I don't necessarily think, you know, I actually feel like IVF is such an important issue in infertility in America that it shouldn't become a political thing.
		I get why, you know, they're latching on to it, but it's a big deal the fact that our birth rates are declining.
		It's a big deal that people are struggling with infertility and, you know, I'm not anti the science that goes behind all of these things.
		I just think we have to talk about it more.
		And I think there's a level of shame that goes with infertility where we don't.
		But that again, it's like this emotional tactic that Democrats have sort of employed to be like, they're trying to take something from you and we're the only ones who are going to protect you.
		And I just, I don't understand how that can be appealing to voters, but I was never a Democrat.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		Just last night, real quick, we had two great super chats that called in and IVF really helped them.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		You know, they're on our team, and they really appreciate IVFs and how they help them.
unidentified		I think I heard that, actually, listening to that, and it's very sweet.
		I mean, IVF changes lives, and you know, I know that embryos are destroyed, but at the end of the day, I think, morally, there's a fundamental difference between intentionally destroying a life because you carelessly had relations, because we all know what that leads to, versus trying to and desperately hoping that each embryo implants I don't think they should be destroyed.
		I think we should do embryo adoption.
		But yeah, fundamentally, there's a difference there.
		And I don't think we need to be so puritanical as conservatives, but that's just my opinion.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's jump to this story.
		We have a tweet from Jack Posobiec.
		He says, Breaking!
		Gold Star family member confirms Biden and Kamala were invited to the Arlington Memorial Service.
		Quote, we never heard back from them.
		This story was big.
		Donald Trump, he lays a wreath down in honor of these 13 service members who died in Afghanistan.
		Kamala Harris, Joe Biden are nowhere to be found.
		Biden's on vacation.
		Kamala's MIA.
		Who knows what she's doing?
		And this was really, really bad in the news cycle for them.
		So what happens?
		Instantly, the mass media jumps to attention and claims several things.
		One, Trump's people were fighting with personnel there, and there was an altercation.
		Another was that he was taking pictures of gravestones with the permission of other families.
		They said, how dare you use the cemetery as a campaign prop?
		Oh, look at him giving a thumbs up.
		They had to turn it into a bad thing because Biden and Kamala were not there.
		We even got this from CNN.
unidentified		U.S.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Army rebukes Trump campaign for incident at Arlington National Cemetery.
		The funny thing is, with all this criticism, Joe Biden did a campaign event at the cemetery as well.
		People are sharing those photos.
		It is so bad that Kamala and Biden snubbed these families.
		They had to.
		They're responsible for the deaths.
		That the media jumped to their defense and made it a bad thing that Trump was honoring fallen troops.
		Can you believe that?
unidentified		I suppose yes, easily.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		It's impressive, but also on brand for them.
		I mean, it is sort of the spin you would expect.
		It was interesting.
		I've seen a couple interviews with Gold Star families who have said, we invited Trump.
		We wanted him to be there.
		Or when he was asked about the picture thing, he's like, look, I don't know anything about it.
		Like, I just told the families if they wanted to take a picture, we could.
		And it seems kind of pathetic that This is the criticism.
		The person who went and honored the families of the fallen is the villain to the mainstream media, whereas Joe Biden, who's hanging out on the beach in Delaware, which might I remind everyone is in driving distance of Arlington National Cemetery, and Kamala Harris, who I think was at the White House that day, just didn't show up at all.
		They didn't even respond.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		He's the cause of it.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		That's why he can't go.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		He can't face reality.
unidentified		Well, I'm pretty sure if you, well, I mean, if you were an honest person, you would be more concerned with why your candidate or the current president is not there than with Trump being there and possibly disbehaving or whatever it is, misbehaving.
		You would be more concerned with your own candidate and their absence.
		But this is the guy who, I'm pretty sure if you look up Snopes fact check, it says he checked his watch during that ceremony.
		Right.
		Joe Biden checked his watch during... And that is fact-checked true by Snoop.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		And it was confirmed in, like, Jen Psaki's book, right?
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it's just pathetic how much they checked.
unidentified		Well, I think she lied about it in her book.
		Yeah, she tried to cover up her lie.
		Yeah.
		But I don't remember.
		There was a TikTok I shared recently from a wife who her husband died not in the pullout from Afghanistan.
		And she said also Biden was not there when they brought his body home.
		So, I mean, it's like a repeated thing here.
		It looks awful.
		It is awful.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		We had a guest on the show a couple weeks ago, Buzz, who was talking about how Hillary Clinton just didn't really respect the military.
unidentified		Buzz Patterson?
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		Buzz Patterson.
		And he was talking about how, you know, she didn't really want the military members who were in the White House to wear the uniform.
		And I actually feel like I see that attitude reflected in a lot of younger Democrats.
		There's sort of a level of, like, I don't want to say disgust with the military, but there's some kind of like, they look down on it.
		They don't want to talk about it.
		They're not interested.
		They don't see any sort of like patriotic duty or any sort of level of necessary respect.
		Do you think that's one of the reasons Democratic voters don't pick up on why this spin is so disrespectful to the families of the soldiers?
unidentified		I think that on the other side, there is a fundamental lack of respect and appreciation for this country.
		The first time I ever felt patriotic, and I'm not proud of this, I'm ashamed of it, was when I walked away from the Democratic Party.
		I didn't feel pride in my country before that.
		And again, I want to emphasize that this wasn't like an overnight shift where I just jumped from one pot to the other, but it was like exciting.
		For the first time in my life, I felt proud.
		I bought all this like patriotic gear, and I had never felt that before.
		And I'm just, I think a lot of people from my generation are like that.
		I mean, maybe it's also a regional thing, like I said.
		They do not respect this country, Democrats.
		A lot of them do not.
		I won't say every single one.
		They don't respect this country.
		I watched an advanced screening of Am I Racist?
		the other night.
		I won't give away any spoilers or anything, but he goes to Race to Dinner, which is something that I'm sure you guys have heard of.
		It's two women who come and Rich white women pay for it.
		Shame white women, yeah.
		You cook a black woman and a brown woman dinner and they tell you how racist you are.
		And one of these women, I don't remember her name so I'm gonna butcher it so I won't say it, but she comes right out and says, and it's not the first time she says it, but she says it in the documentary that this country is trash, there's nothing worth saving.
		I think that is something that is rampant on that side, and that's why they want to burn it all down.
		So I think that ties into this lack of respect for the military, but then of course they want to grandstand that they're the ones respecting.
		Wouldn't it have been nice if they all showed up?
		Kamala and Trump, everyone.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know what's funny is we have, one of the people who handles bookings for our various shows sent me just like, here's a list of people that we've reached out to who are on the left.
		They will not do it.
		It's funny.
		Libertarians hate Trump and they absolutely will come on the show.
		They often request to come on the show and they will sit here and they will talk about why they do not like Donald Trump and everything he did wrong and Clint Russell will argue with me over it.
		He has no issue whatsoever defending his worldview.
		He is steadfast in his beliefs.
		He's done the research.
		He knows what he's talking about and then we disagree on what the ultimate, like what are the best moves to make and liberals won't go anywhere near it.
		It's fascinating to me because that shows something.
		When you have these Mises Caucus-type libertarians who are like, Trump is bad and here's why, and I'm like, wow, you make some really great points, however I'll counter with these points, and they'll say, well, you know, I can respect that, but I just can't get myself to that point because I think Trump does a bad thing.
		Liberals don't know anything about what's going on.
		You're allowed to dislike Trump.
		You don't have to like the guy.
		But their rationale for not liking him is nonsense.
		It's fake.
		So when they go on social media and they post garbled trash saying Trump is bad for these reasons, and then I say, hey, How about I fly you out, you sit down, and we have that conversation.
		They go, nope.
		Because they know, they don't know what they're talking about, and if they sit down in this chair and I pull up the article, they're gonna go, oops, I was wrong about that.
		And that's the funny thing about the libertarians, is the response from like, I love this, Dave Smith.
		I say, Abraham Accords.
		And Dave Smith says, I think those were bad, and here's why.
		A story I told is that there was one guy, Who is Trump derangement syndrome that I had met when I was in D.C.
		And he says, he's like a Trump supporter.
		He's like, name one thing he's done.
		One thing he's done.
		And I said, Abraham Accords.
		And he goes, you can't even name one thing.
		And everyone looks.
		And I was like, I just said the Abraham Accords.
		You want me to go through a list of all the other things that he did I think are good?
		And the guy was like, you can't name one thing.
		One thing.
		And then he wouldn't even look at me.
		Turns around.
		His brain doesn't work.
		Dave Smith says, the Abraham Accords put pressure on Gaza and Palestine.
		It cut them out of the negotiations, and then it created this moment where, of course, they were going to go nuclear.
		And then it puts pressure on Iran, and it bubbles up the tensions.
		I don't want to misrepresent his views, but he ultimately said something to the effect of this, and that the Abraham Accords were not ultimately good, and that I disagree with him.
		But I have tremendous respect for anybody who wants to come on and say, I just genuinely don't agree it was a good thing and I can give you my exact reasoning.
		The difference is, the overlap between the Mises Caucus Libertarians and MAGA is overwhelming.
		The overlap is overwhelming.
		And so now the Mises Caucus guys, I don't know, not, probably not Dave, but most, I think most of them are saying they're probably gonna vote for Trump.
		Or at least many of the prominent ones are saying we're voting for Trump.
		Even RFK Jr.
		and his Democrat cohorts are voting for Donald Trump.
		It is insane to me.
		But it is the reality that the left is the cult.
		And the evidence you need is that they are unwilling to step outside the confines of their cult.
unidentified		You're so correct that they're uninformed, and that's why I don't think they're evil.
unidentified		You know, I think the people at the top are evil, but people are really, really uninformed, and they think they're on the right side of history, and they're doing the compassionate thing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But that would be, you could argue the individual is not evil, but it's still the banality of evil.
unidentified		Exactly.
		At a certain point, like, we kind of have to be aware where these are critical times, and I get that it's hard.
		But it's also it's very hard to realize everything that you believe is a lie.
		It kind of feels like you're on drugs.
		You know, like it's hard to just realize.
		It's scary to realize you've been lied to and you're wrong about everything.
		And I think it's easier to just believe Trump's evil and we're evil.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That being said, look, the right certainly has their people, too.
unidentified		Of course.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Who are, you know, weirdos.
		But I'll tell you a funny story.
		I just heard that we're doing a, we're planning a big D.C.
		debate show.
		We're trying to book members of Congress.
		And apparently the people that we're working with, who work with some of the big names,
		the big members of Congress, who are friends and fans of the show, are hearing from rank
		and file Republicans, like, isn't Tim anti-Trump now?
		And they were...
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		Why?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like, what?
		Because like the RFK Jr.
		tweet or something?
		Like, and I'm just, my immediate reaction was, you should tell them, if any member of Congress says to any of our people, isn't Tim anti-Trump now?
		When they're being asked to come on the show, the response should go, and?
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		Uh-huh.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Why should that matter?
		Do you want to go on a prominent podcast and discuss why Trump is correct or why your policies are correct?
		Does it matter if you're going to be arguing with someone who thinks you're wrong?
		Yeah.
		You know, there are weak-willed people, but I look at it like tendencies and, you know, the religion argument, actually, we talked about this this morning.
		I said, a lot of atheists are arguing against stupid theists and not smart theists.
		And so they often say things like, I just don't believe in fairy tales, which is an argument against stupid people, but it's not an argument against people who believe in God and are talking about, say, like the logos of the universe and the structure and nature of reality.
		But it's fair to say that just because someone Is voting for Trump doesn't mean they know at all what they're talking about or that they are smart or correct in any way.
		And so, you know, the challenge then becomes for a lot of these Democrats, that's who their target is going to be.
		They're going to see 10,000 of the stupidest Trump supporters, and they're going to hyper focus on the reality, though.
		It's a tendency.
		On the right, there are relatively few people, compared to the left, who are uninformed about why they're voting.
		But they exist.
		And you'll see the men on the street, interviewers, and they're like, Trump's good, because he's gonna bring freedom.
		And then they go, oh, this person's so dumb.
		Well, you know, maybe that person is dumb, but at least they're accidentally in the right direction.
		The Democrats overwhelmingly are ignorant about what's going on and unwilling to correct it.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		And those people that might be dumb, they're going to wear American flags, and they're going to root for America, and they're going to root for not wars, whereas their side is not on that side at all.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		They're not rooting for a common good.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I was going to say disgusting earlier when you said what word you're going to try to think of, because my experience with folks on that side, when they find out that I'm a veteran, they are very vitriol.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		That's my word I was going to use.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		My brother told me a story one time.
		He was in the Marine Corps and he was in uniform.
		I think he was on leave traveling through the Atlanta airport and some woman came and like threw a drink on him.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		Which I was just like, why?
unidentified		That's crazy.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		You know what I mean?
		He was like, I don't know.
		I just kept walking.
		But it is interesting.
		And that was over a decade ago at this point.
		I was going to ask you, you know, as you have come out more publicly with being conservative or, you know, with the shift in your political views.
		Do you get people from your life, from, you know, your past as more of a Democrat who, like, will sort of whisper to the side, like, yeah, I kind of think that makes sense or, like, have some kind of wanting to talk about the other side?
		Or for the most part, do your friends kind of ignore the political transition?
unidentified		Oh, no, I have no friends.
unidentified		I have no friends.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		You always had no friends?
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		You lost them since you moved over?
unidentified		No, yeah, I've lost everyone.
		Yeah, no, I mean, you know, there's actually a strong conservative patriot movement in LA.
		I feel like when you're behind the belly of the beast, you kind of get more close knit.
		But no, I have never heard anyone say, you know what, you might be right.
		Maybe they say it to themselves at night as they comment about me viciously.
		I don't know.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		I don't know either.
		I grew up, you know, I feel like we had kind of opposite experiences because I grew up in Connecticut, which was always blue.
		And so All of my friends growing up were default Democrats and a lot of them still are.
		And so I felt like I was always the odd person by being conservative or libertarian leaning.
		I think they must have gotten used to me.
		So I feel like the conversations are more peaceful because I was just always like this.
unidentified		Are they still able to be your friend though?
unidentified		Because I feel like now everything is so intense.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		It depends.
		I have some that are and either don't talk about it or they're like, I don't know, things are very weird.
		Or they're helpful because I don't always know what the perspective is and they're open to talking with me.
		Like, well, this is why I feel this way about this issue.
		But I do have, there's one in particular, like childhood friend who got super radical.
		And I remember last year I was visiting her and she Held it in for a long time and then like burst out like, you say so much stuff I agree with and I don't understand how you can be a Republican.
		And I was like, well, I don't know.
unidentified		Well, you say so much stuff she agrees with.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		And then we got into this crazy conversation about trans stuff where she told me that top surgery wasn't a double mastectomy.
		I was like, I don't think you know what top surgery is.
		What do you think?
unidentified		Is there like another?
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		She says it's something else.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		I was like, they cut off the shoulders?
unidentified		Pop hat?
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		You take the pop hat off?
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		It was a very, it was a difficult conversation because it's so emotional on one side.
		You're like, well, let me present you with some facts and they're like, I don't want to hear it.
		You've upset me and I don't, I can't talk about that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And that's the challenge with, you know, we're talking about the IV thing, IVF, sorry, where Trump is saying he's for it.
		You can try and show it to your family members, but the reality is a lot of them are going to go, he's lying.
		I don't care.
unidentified		Oh yeah.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		A hundred percent.
		That's my, this weekend, that'll be this weekend.
		Labor Day.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's going to be fun.
		Labor Day weekend with the family.
		It's not Thanksgiving, but you know, it's close.
unidentified		Because it is hard to accept that you're wrong.
		It's so hard.
		I think that's part of why COVID was the way it was because it's scarier to think people in big positions of power are lying to us than it is to be afraid of a virus almost.
		There's scary stuff going on and if you have blinders on and you're ignorant, I don't think it is hard to be wrong for the majority of the people on the right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Jordan Peterson's a great example.
		I absolutely love this about him.
		When he did that interview with that trashy comedian, and he said, should businesses be required to adhere to, like, Someone's pronouns or whatever, and he's like, no, they shouldn't have to do that.
		A business should be allowed to kick anybody out if they want to and not service them.
		And then he says, what about if they're black?
		What about black people?
		And then Jordan Peterson goes, well, maybe I was wrong about that.
		Just like that.
		He was like, oh, yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Good point.
		Maybe I was wrong.
		It was that easy for him to be like, oh, I hadn't considered it.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But it's these TDS sufferers who will not, they will not accept that you're showing them the proof.
		Like, shout out to CKY, the band, and Jess Margera.
		So I've listened to CKY since I was a kid, right?
		You know, the Bam Margera MTV era.
		And he's always posting this anti-Trump stuff, and I'm always responding to him, because I'm a big fan of their band.
		They're legend.
		They're epic.
		And so I told him, I was like, dude, CKY is too good for you to be posting this nonsense.
		Like, I am going to tweet at you, invite him on the show.
		But anyway, In one of the conversations, he responds to someone else.
		Someone responds saying, you know, these Trump supporters will defend him no matter what.
		You can bring up that he's flying around on Epstein's plane and they won't accept it.
		They'll claim it's fake news.
		And then I said something like, interesting.
		Come on the show.
		Let's talk about it.
		And then he posts a link to the story from Newsweek saying, you know, Donald Trump is flying on a refurbished Jeff Epstein playing and he goes, is this true?
		I said, yes, it's real.
		Now come on the show.
		Like, I don't know what you think I'm going to say.
		Like, there's a news story that says Trump is doing it.
		OK, let's have the conversation.
		It is the other side that will tell you, no, Trump's lying.
		It's fake.
unidentified		Oh, absolutely.
		I mean, look at how so many of us didn't take the medical therapy that Trump continues to push.
		We are not a cult.
		We are.
		We do not do.
		Yes, exactly.
		We do not do everything he says.
		We're not a cult.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's not just that.
		The greatest evidence against the cult, a good example, as you mentioned, the vaccines, his own audience at rallies boo him over this, which is, that is big evidence, but it's the primary.
		It's Vivek, Nikki, and Ron DeSantis, and it was a brutal primary where the right was in disarray over who the nominee should be, and then afterwards, I'll give a shout out to Defiant Ls, that's a really great Instagram and Twitter account, but they got one bad one, they get some bad ones, and it was a guy who tweeted, Screw you MAGA people.
		I will never vote for Trump.
		I don't care.
		Blah, blah, blah.
		It's your fault.
		And then two days later, he says, I have no choice.
		I'm going to be voting for Donald Trump.
		And they called that an L. And I'm like, that's a win.
		That is a man recognizing he's in between a rock and a hard place, and he's making a difficult decision, which is what strong-willed people must do.
		And he later responded to it saying, I do not like Trump, but I recognize the threat to this country, and I'm willing to overcome my own emotions and anger to support the man that I think will do a better job, even though I'm not a fan of his.
		That's a win!
unidentified		Absolutely.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's a win right there.
unidentified		Yeah.
		I mean, this is kind of tertiary, but I sometimes get, like, why did it take you so long?
		I think we welcome everyone.
		Until the day God says it's over and we're all out of here, like, it is not too late, and you welcome everybody.
		Because we are becoming the umbrella party, and that is a wonderful thing, I think.
		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And this is why I was very irked by the insulting of Joe Rogan.
		Even Trump on Truth Social saying he's going to get booed or whatever.
		And it's funny because, you know, give a shout out to whoever.
		We had two members email.
		Two!
		Saying like, you know, how dare you insult these people, whatever.
		I'm not going to be a member anymore.
		And I was just like, whatever, dude.
		Thank you for your support up until this point, but dude, I'm not going to sit here and entertain Trump supporters attacking moderates.
		We're trying to win, man.
		We're supposed to be the ones saying like, come over here and have a beer with us while the Democrats are screeching, fall in line or else.
unidentified		Yeah, that has been disappointing.
		And there's been a few people I've seen who are criticizing him for surrounding himself with Democrats, with Tulsi and RFK.
		And it's just we're gaining more than we're losing.
		The very small conservative religious people who I actually agree with, the ones we're losing, they do not compare to the ones we're gaining.
		And so I'm for it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		RFK Jr.
		is tremendous.
		It is fascinating to see.
		I don't know if you guys saw Nicole Shanahan put together this video about TDS.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		Her team's always working, she said.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, let me pull this one up so I can play it for you guys.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		So they got like 2 million, 3 million within an hour or three.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		She's been kind of a sleeper hit for me.
		When they announced her, I was like, but who and what?
		But she's been really interesting when she's interviewed.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		She's coming through in the clutch.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right, so we're going to play this.
		This is a commercial, a fake commercial.
		This was made by Nicole Shanann.
		This is RFK Jr.' 's VP candidate.
		And she said, my team never sleeps, and they made this.
unidentified		...from illnesses such as TDS, also known as Trump Derangement Syndrome?
		Do you dismiss or deny the current issues facing our country, such as historic inflation, illegal immigration, corporate corruption, World War III escalations, and the chronic disease epidemic?
		Are you willing to elect someone who was the least popular vice president in modern history, and who offers no policy or vision for America, simply because your brain keeps telling you anyone but Trump?
		If so, you might be struggling from TDS.
		Introducing independence.
		Independence allows you the freedom to finally think independently once again.
		Instead of believing everything you hear from the mainstream media, independence allows for constructive critical thinking.
		I used to hear people on the news say things like Donald Trump and the movement he has encouraged are a threat to democracy.
		And I instantly believed it.
		Yes, I now realize the media is run by the Democrat elite, who are a corrupt oligarchy that censors free speech, silences political opponents, supports forever wars, and abandons democracy by anointing its candidates.
		Independence may not be for everyone.
		If you enjoy being lied to about your president's cognitive abilities, support Orwellian totalitarianism, or are excited about communist fiscal policy, independence may not be right for you.
		Common side effects of independence may include an awakening of rational thought, successfully identifying propaganda, freedom of choice, loss of hatred, anti-narcissistic behavior, and love of democracy.
		I used to blindly hate whoever my party was running against.
		I didn't care about facts or policy because I was hopelessly indoctrinated.
		With independence, I'm much more interested in policies that uphold democracy, and I truly care about the health of our country and its citizens.
		Ask your doctor if independence is right for you, and enjoy your freedoms once again.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I just want to point out how I love that Democrats radicalized R.F.K.
		Jr.
		He was trying to run as a Democrat.
		He called Columbus Day Indigenous People's Day.
		He got relatively irked that I brought that up and said, you're losing your credibility when you say that.
		And he's progressive.
		He was for gun control.
		He runs as a Democrat.
		The Democrats cheat, keep him and Shanahan off, sue them into oblivion to block them.
		And basically, it wasn't a...
		I don't want to say the joke, it's crass, okay?
		But they say, in this instance, you don't call it a red pill, you'd call it something else, but let's just call it a big red pill.
		Let's call it that.
		Okay, I'll just tell you, they call it the red suppository.
		When you get red-pilled in a short amount of time to an extreme degree, they're basically saying the Democrats took it and just, you know, right up.
		But for real, it's like, RFK's been going at this for less than a year, right?
		Like, his campaign, he was trying to run in a primary, and he would have won a primary, and so they colluded to keep him out, and then they try to censor him.
		They censored him during COVID, and he's sitting here being like, What is going on?
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		Did Trump take off the ballot?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But I think Shanahan's the stronger, red-pilled voice.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		4.4 million views on this commercial.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		Who knew she was... I had no idea she was this based.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		She's an independent.
		She's moderate, right?
		And so she wants to run as a Democrat, and the Democrats lie, cheat, steal, censor, support Big Pharma, do all these things.
		And then I think they just snapped.
		They were just like, this... MAGA.
		RFK tweeted what MAGA was.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		I think you can hear it in her voice.
		Like when she did the interview right before RFK withdrew, she sounds like betrayed.
		Like the party that you had been, the party that she had patron, that she had supported, that they, it wasn't just like, oh, we don't like you.
		We're not going to support you.
		They went above and beyond to make it more difficult and to try and bring down their efforts because there are conversations, I guess, the Democrats don't have.
unidentified		I mean every single walkaway story has betrayal as the common theme whether they say it or not is what that's what it feels like because you felt like you were on the right side this is the party of compassion we're for women we're for minorities it's a betrayal it feels like a punch in the gut and that's why whether you call it a walkaway story or not like that's that's the common thing and it's like what Elon Musk said that I didn't leave the party or the whatever that meme that he posted I mean yeah Democrats are radicalizing People to be quote-unquote right-wing, whatever that means, just to be not Democrats anymore.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Maybe they're pulling an Ozymandias from Watchmen.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You guys know that reference?
unidentified		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So, spoiler alert for a graphic novel from the 80s, he simulates an alien invasion killing tens of millions of people to end the Cold War.
		So he intentionally, and he plays the villain, but for the purpose of forcing, you know, It's something good they're doing for us.
		I mean, he's evil.
		He murders.
		It's utilitarianism in this story.
		He simulates an alien invasion because the U.S.
		and Soviet Union are on the verge of nuclear annihilation.
		And so by having an alien attack the world, it forces the U.S.
		and Soviet Union to unite against a common enemy.
		And so maybe Democrats just seem so apocalyptically bad and evil.
		It's because they're trying to unite liberal and conservative Americans.
		Because like the fact that RFK Jr., a Kennedy, is now endorsing a Republican, and Trump is a moderate himself, and these former Democrats are all now coming out and supporting Trump.
		Maybe the end result is the factions of America that were liberal and conservative are now unified.
		I don't know.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		So they know aliens are going to invade us in not too long.
		They see them coming.
		So this is our plan.
		We got a 10-year plan to get the world together.
		So what we're going to do is we're going to, you know, I don't think aliens are coming.
unidentified		go radical. We're not going to unite us. Aliens will not unite us at this point.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		I just... I just... I hope those onlys are only to distract from what Hunter Biden is doing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't... I don't... We haven't had one in a while.
		I don't think aliens are coming. I'm thinking... I would not be surprised, considering how miserably
		Democrats have been behaving, like acting, that if someone came to me and said that
		leadership in the Democratic Party intentionally is sabotaging everything to force as many
		people into one political party as possible, I'd believe it.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		Oh, and then take over that and go total totalitarian.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Sure, possibly.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But they're turning the Republican Party into the big tent party.
unidentified		Exactly.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know why you'd do that.
		And I'm like, is it an accident?
		Probably, I guess.
		I mean, the simple solution is that they're just really dumb.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		It's a very losing strategy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Maybe, but the thing ultimately comes down to procedure.
		The election is not about the argument.
		The election is about procedure.
		And that's the frustrating thing about Trump being like, I'm going to be this for this policy or that policy.
		The reason why Kamala Harris sounds like a bumbling moron who spits and sputters and has no idea what you're talking about is because, you know what she should do?
		When she does her next interview, she should just be like, Half glazed over, just not really paying attention, and when they're like, what's your plan for the first, you know, hundred days?
		I don't have one.
		And they're gonna go, you don't have one?
unidentified		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's not a message to help you win votes.
		What do I need to win votes for?
		Well, you're trying to win the election, right?
		We're going to win the election.
		Okay, well, don't you need to convince people?
unidentified		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We're going to knock on their door, tell them to fill out their mail-in ballot, and we're going to win.
		So I could literally stand here right now and tell you I don't care about the American people.
		Don't matter.
		We're going to knock on their door.
		They're not going to hear any of this interview.
		No one's going to care.
		And then they're going to vote for me.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		That is actually truer than it should be.
unidentified		Yep.
		But they have to keep up appearances.
		Yeah.
		I mean, it doesn't seem like they're trying, but they try, I guess.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I would love to do that at some point.
		I mean, maybe if my life took a different arc, eventually just climb my way up into a political party, run for office, and then just totally go nuts.
		And then just be like, yeah, we're basically here to steal power.
		The goal of my campaign is so that I can get insider information and control policy that will allow my friends in Congress and the Senate to stock trade beneficially for their families.
		And then we're all going to get property at Martha's Vineyard, and we're going to enjoy, I don't know, like a $200 bottle of champagne.
		And the middle class can screw off all they care.
unidentified		It's so sad, though, because you are actually so, I mean, more right than ever that nobody voted for this person, and here we are, like, that is crazy.
unidentified		That is crazy that not a single American voted for this person.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		For Harris.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		Implementation, yeah.
unidentified		So it is true that no matter what she does, no matter what she says, no matter what her policies are, That's their girl.
unidentified		That's nuts.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If Trump can't win on procedure, which is the only thing that matters, he can't win.
		And then the best thing is, so you do an interview, and this would be a great mock interview,
		right?
		Just like to make a point.
		The interviewer says, OK, well, I mean, what if this interview does actually end up going
		viral and people end up hating you and despising you over it?
		My response is, oh, I mean, it doesn't matter.
		The governors and the judges in these swing states are going to shift things in our favor no matter what happens.
		No matter what any Republican does, if they file a lawsuit challenging the results, our ballot harvesters are going to mass produce and sometimes rerun the ballots twice.
		And then if you file a lawsuit, the Democrat judge who's on our side and wants me to win, we'll just tell you to screw off and you can't do anything about it.
		And then we'll just arrest anybody who tries to stop us.
		Next question.
unidentified		Did you hear about Pennsylvania?
unidentified		That they're counting, they ruled that they're counting ballots that are not dated or dated differently?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, right, right, right.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
unidentified		So that's another loss.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And that's, well, there's one reason to do that.
unidentified		Aside from cheating?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, no, there's only one reason.
		There's only one reason to count ballots that have incorrect dates.
		And it is that if the total comes in against you and you've lost, you can then bring in ballots afterwards with no dates.
		And then there you go.
		Count those.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		In the CNN interview, they referred to Pennsylvania as a must-win state for Kamala Harris.
		I mean, whatever happens procedurally in Pennsylvania is really important because, you know, Trump has a path to victory through the other states.
		She needs Pennsylvania.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Nate Silver said that if she does not win Pennsylvania, her chance of winning is 4%.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		And my insight as a Pennsylvanian is it's 50-50 still.
		Nothing's really changed.
		If you're voting for Dem, you're voting for Dem.
		If you're voting for R, you're voting for R. No one I know has changed.
		Maybe my dad might because he watched IRL now a little bit since I'm here, so a little convincing.
		So we might got two, two extras.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's a really good idea.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All we have to do is bring on people whose families are Democrats onto the show.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		That's it.
unidentified		It's going to work.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because you're like, all my parents are Democrats and you come on the show and now your parents watch the show.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		And they understand the truth.
		They're like, wait a second.
		That's not what's going on in real life.
unidentified		Well, listen, I've got some Democrat siblings, so maybe we're gonna get two-fer here.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		We're in California, so we need Pennsylvania-specific people.
		I'm just kidding.
		We're not using the show to lobby.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You said at the beginning of the show that you were an atheist, but you're not an atheist now?
unidentified		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What happened there?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		How did you move from being an atheist to not-atheist?
unidentified		It's weird.
		My political shift came first.
		It was just listening to conservative voices, honestly.
		A lot of actually Ben Shapiro and Dennis Prager, who are not Christians.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But you are Christian now?
unidentified		I am Christian, yeah.
		I was unhappy in my life before COVID, and I was feeling very purposeless and unfulfilled.
		So there was that emptiness before COVID, and I feel like COVID highlighted the cracks that were already there.
		The response to COVID.
		I'm sorry, I should be clear.
		I don't like when people do that.
		The response to COVID.
		Highlighted the cracks that were already there.
		And I just kind of started listening to these different voices and I realized, oh, there's actually a different way to live.
		There's a better way to live.
		There's a way to live with more wisdom.
		And I became a Christian because I was listening to so many conservative people.
		And it was very hard to go back to church because they were all closed in L.A.
		A lot of them were.
		There was one that I know of that fought and stayed open.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		Interesting how that happened.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		When people were starting to reevaluate their lives, churches were closed.
unidentified		That was a big mistake.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		When you started hearing from, I mean, Prager and Shapiro, they're Jewish.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Were they making arguments for God that was convincing and compelling to you?
unidentified		Yeah, that for God, and really just for, I think, a different way to live, because I knew the way that I was living was not correct.
		And so I, because I couldn't go to church, I just started, I was raised Catholic, I should say that, but I had left for a very long time.
		So I just started opening my Bible.
		It was just being around this culture, not that, oh, this is what I have to do, but just these people seem happier.
		They seem more joyful, to use the word of the hour, and they seem more fulfilled in their lives.
		I want what they are having, and that is God, you know?
		Why are you laughing at me?
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		No, it's a good feeling.
		It's good.
		It's nice to have a warm heart.
		I agree.
unidentified		And that's why we do have to be Christians.
		We already know this, but Christians need to be in politics because sometimes, like me, I was not a Christian first, and then I was like, well, obviously I'm going to vote Republican.
		I was a conservative first, a Republican, or I started leaning this way, and then I became Christian, you know?
		So sometimes the switch is reversed.
		And so we shouldn't discount being in the culture war and being in politics because I think that the way policies happen, it brings people to God, it wins souls for Christ.
		I mean, it did with me, you know?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm not a Christian, but I think with wisdom and actually trying to listen and understand and understand the reality comes a better understanding of God.
		And so It's weird that people like there's a lot of people that tweet that I'm an atheist.
		And it's like the weirdest thing, because I'm like a fervent pro God, but just not in any organized religion.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		I mean, they tweet everything about you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So yeah, whatever.
		Yeah, I guess.
		Yeah.
unidentified		No, if you like conservatives, you're not an atheist.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Conservatives calling me an atheist is the weirdest thing.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		It's those purity people.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It may be because... Some people want to whine.
		But it's because I don't follow Christianity, and so they view that as atheism, I guess?
		I don't know.
unidentified		I'm a really bad Christian, you know?
		I'm bad.
		So maybe I'm more like you.
		I don't know what I believe, but I... yeah.
		You know?
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		Do you go to church?
unidentified		I do, but not as frequently as I should.
		Honestly, the churches being closed in LA really did a number on me.
		I can't really stomach that.
		All the Catholic churches were closed.
		I have a problem with that.
		Pardon me, but...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I love church.
		I grew up going to Catholic Mass, and I have fond memories of everyone's there.
		They were singing.
		On Sunday, they would have a potluck afterwards.
		They were very fun family things.
		I'm just not a Christian.
		I don't feel it would be right for me to go and attend something as a community thing, but this is why when we're doing the coffee shop stuff, I want to get these locations as many as we can all over the country to create a place for people to congregate.
		You know, there's a lot of people who don't go to church, a lot of people who aren't Christian necessarily.
		I think Christians probably would appreciate non-Christians coming to church.
unidentified		Absolutely.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's a step towards conversion.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But I think a halfway point would be we want to do this thing called Saturday Morning Cartoons.
		Open the cafe, bring your family, bring your kids, 6 a.m., 7 a.m.
		or whatever, and there's going to be a catering sandwich, you know, like pancake, sausage, eggs, and the kids can play and watch wholesome content, but then the parents get to meet each other.
		Yeah.
		We need that in our communities.
		That's why I think—we talked about this a long time ago too—whether or not you believe in God.
		Church, I believe, is a necessary function for a functioning society.
		It brings the community together.
		They're talking to each other, they're sharing ideas, they're sharing concerns, and that creates a unified local culture.
unidentified		Yeah.
		And at the end of the day, we're all bad Christians.
		I mean, that's the whole idea behind being a Christian.
		So absolutely come to church, even if you're not a believer, I would say.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		I think people crave purpose and structure.
		There's a whole line of books now.
		You can look for books that are like, how do I find what to do with my life or discern whatever.
		And maybe if you're discerning a career, that makes sense.
		But I think for a lot of people, what they're actually missing is a moral structure through which to navigate the world. And
		I think when, you know, I understand why so many people are disenfranchised with religion. I
		understand, you know, there are definitely churches that have hurt people and create a bad
		rap. But I think alternatively, having nothing is worse because you are so lost without
		something to guide you.
unidentified		Oh yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's jump to this from the AP.
		This is one of the biggest stories today.
		We saved it for last.
		From the AP News, top Brazilian judge orders suspension of X platform in Brazil amid feud with Musk.
		Additionally, Brazil institutes a $9,000 per day fine for anyone who uses a VPN to access X. This is absolutely insane.
		The government of Brazil has gone crackpot totalitarian in an effort to stop people from being able to see information outside of their control.
		He has banned a social network and is threatening to fine $9,000 a day.
		It's basically the average salary of a Brazilian.
		Actually, and we'll check, too.
		I'll check the GDP of Brazil right now.
		But this is absolutely crazy.
		And my concern is these types of moves, they're coming everywhere.
		France arresting Pavel Durov.
		We're going to see a lot more of this.
		Elon Musk, if he travels outside of the United States, they might arrest him.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		Yes, they will arrest him, 100%.
		There's no doubt.
		He goes to anywhere.
		If anyone has any extradition with Brazil, I see it coming.
		The world's getting crazy.
		It's going hardcore left.
		There's gonna be zero freedoms.
		So that's why we got to get Trump in.
		That's why we have to have a big tent.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's about $9,000 to $10,000 per person per year in Brazil.
		That's wild.
		They're basically saying a year's salary for every day that you try to use X. They want to keep the people in the dark.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		What's Elon Musk's next move here?
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		I mean, where does he go from this sort of challenge from Brazil?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Man, I don't know.
		Rumble's already out, too.
		So I'll pull this up.
		Chris Pavlovsky said, Brazil no longer has Rumble, and from media reports, they will no longer have X.
		World powers don't want Rumble, they don't want X, they don't want Telegram.
		They want to control information and our companies do not allow them to.
		There are no other large companies fighting for the freedoms like we are.
		We put everything on the line for it.
		One CEO is in jail.
		Advertisers boycott our companies to try and cut our economic lifeline, but they underestimate our support among the people.
		The people keep us alive and keep us going.
		If you want to help us join X Premium, join Rumble Premium.
		If it gets big enough, you'll help us change the game.
		Yeah, this is absolutely crazy.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		That's a great tweet.
		I didn't see that.
		Makes so much sense.
		That's exactly what's going on.
		And nobody's seen it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think, why does this matter?
		Brazil bending X. If Trump does not win, this is coming here.
		You're gonna get arrested for posting a meme of a dog, you know, eating a cheeseburger or something.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		You've already had that guy arrested, real quick, for saying to vote for Trump, or Kamala- Oh, right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
		Was it Douglas Mackey?
		Was that his name?
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		Douglas Mackey.
unidentified		I think so.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He made the meme text to vote or whatever?
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And there was a Democrat who did a similar thing, but they said because his included a number, it made his illegal and hers wasn't.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		What other social media platforms does Brazil allow right now?
		I'm not super familiar with their tech, but they must do something to comply that X is not willing to do.
		China has basically scared every other platform away.
		They're able to only have Basically sanctioned social media platforms by deterring everyone else by making it difficult for them to operate there.
		I mean, it seems to be working there.
		Is this where Brazil is drawing their inspiration from?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No one knows.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		Somebody bring me a Brazilian expert.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		I was looking up the stats for what's being used in Brazil.
unidentified		But yeah, they... Like, can you go on Facebook in Brazil?
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They had X until today!
unidentified		What is the reason Brazil gave misinformation?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they want them to censor people.
		Right, so Chris Pavlovsky has this tweet from December saying,
		Recently, the Brazilian courts demanded we remove certain creators from Rumble.
		As part of our mission to restore a free and open internet, we have committed not to move
		the goalposts on our content policies. Users with unpopular views are free to access our platform
		on the same terms as our millions of other users.
		Accordingly, we have decided to disable access to Rumble for users in Brazil while we challenge the legality of Brazil court's demands.
		And they're going to say they're disappointed.
		I mean, I'll pull this up because I think it was...
		They say Justice Alexandre de Moraes warned Musk on Wednesday night that acts could be blocked in Brazil if he failed to comply with his order to name a representative and establish a 24-hour deadline.
		The company hasn't had a representative in the country since earlier this month.
		Elon Musk showed total disrespect for Brazilian sovereignty and, in particular, the judiciary, setting himself up as a true supranational entity and immune to the laws of each country.
		So what they started doing too, this is crazy, they issued a fine, and when X ignored it, they seized the money from Starlink, an entirely different company, just because Elon is involved or whatever.
		CEO.
		Yeah, coming to a country near you, I guess.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		This is the future.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		And it's sad.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Not even a guarantee if Trump wins, this will stop.
unidentified		100%.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		100%.
		It's where we're going.
		Everything's becoming more, you can talk this, you can say that.
		Even the right people on the right are becoming more authoritarianism, to be honest.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Becoming more authoritarian?
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		In what way?
		And you can't, you know, like, they don't like to say, let's just say transgender.
		Or abortion.
		They don't want it at all.
		They want this, they want zero.
unidentified		Oh, right.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		You know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Zero tolerance.
		Yeah, I mean, it's kind of funny, going back to the abortion thing, how some of the biggest victories in the history of, you know, or I should say in our lifetimes or in the past three generations, and they're demanding more or else and willing to allow, or at least threatening to let Kamala win unless they don't get what they want.
unidentified		Yeah, but they still let you speak about it.
		Obviously, they're not in charge.
		I mean, the right has no power at all.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so far, because we don't own it.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		Because we don't own the power.
unidentified		I still feel like we... I mean, I agree with you.
		Because we want to argue against these bad ideas.
		That's the best way.
		I don't know.
		But, yeah.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		If I was in charge, I would let everyone talk.
unidentified		Exactly.
		Yeah, this is nuts.
		I'm so grateful for Axe.
		It's like the only place where I feel free at all.
		And the only place I've ever been able to make any kind of money at all.
		Everyone calls me a grifter, but it's the only way I've been able to grift is on Axe.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		Well done.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		So I tweeted earlier, if you have three kids, then you should be exempt from all taxes.
		I tweeted this at 7.29, so we're getting ready for this show.
		I just thought of it, and we were talking about the child tax credit, and I was like, if you're above replacement, three kids, tax-free.
		Because I think there are some countries that actually do this.
		We're talking about child tax credit.
		No, no, no.
		You, like, if people aren't having kids, there's no country.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		But it's got... I think Hungary has a policy like that.
unidentified		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's got 1,700 responses and 1,000 retweets, which means it's going to make money.
		That's how it works.
		You get money based on engagement.
		And then people will accuse me of posting things like this because they're like, he's engagement farming for money or whatever.
		Certainly I'm not.
		Because I got a notification that X paid me.
		Let me pull it up and see what the number is.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		It's actually a good policy, too.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So I got paid today $4,205.86 for the August 16th to the 30th.
		So for the month of August in total, I've got $9,832.92.
		Is that right?
		$9,832.30.
		I'm sorry, $34.92.
		for the August 16th to the 30th.
		So for the month of August in total, I've got $9,832.92.
		Is that right?
		$9,832, I'm sorry, $34.92.
		Yeah, I was off.
		I'm sitting here thinking like if I actually tweeted five times per day,
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		If you're grifting, you mean?
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		If you're actually grifting?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		I mean, I don't know if I would say even grifting is the right word.
		If I literally just said, X is going to be my platform where I post things, and I'm going to post for the purpose of having a conversation, grifting I think is different.
		Grifting is like intentionally being antagonistic to make people respond to you, whereas I think genuinely making a post for positive interaction.
		But if I were to actually focus on the platform, I could probably make, you know, Really good money, considering what I already get right now.
		That's kind of crazy.
		I mean, that's fantastic that X has developed that.
		And there's a real opportunity for people to figure out how to be creators on that platform.
		So, one of the biggest threats that X brings is people can actually make money by doing news and actually breaking the media narrative.
		YouTube is a bit more difficult.
		It's a bit more censorious, but not the worst.
		Facebook is really bad.
		TikTok is the worst.
		But X will allow you to make porn.
		I mean, that's too far!
		Too far!
		Go back!
		Go back!
		I'm not a fan of that.
		Or at least put parental restrictions on it.
		But it's a great platform with a great opportunity and Elon Musk actually is supporting free speech.
		To a great degree, not absolutely.
		So naturally, shut her down.
unidentified		Yeah.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		I made $55.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's great.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		I'll take it.
unidentified		It's a guess.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And you know what I've said?
		I've said to everybody, because there have been people who take clips from IRL, and then I've had people ask me, like, do you mind that we post a clip from the show?
		And I said, go ahead and do it.
		And when you make money, keep it.
		So everyone listening, post clips from the show.
		And then when that generates comments and controversy, like for me, I'm like, if people start posting clips of Timcast IRL on X, And they generate views and then make money off those clips?
		That's me getting free advertising that I would not otherwise get and I'm not gonna make money off that clip on someone else's page anyway.
		So go ahead and clip the show and post it on X. Post clips.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		Do it, people.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Now, don't steal the whole show.
		That's a totally different story.
		We've had a few people, like, screengrab the show and rebroadcast, and I'm like, nah, that's a dick move.
		That's a dick move.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		Also, out-of-context clips are very fun.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, absolutely.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		I love out-of-context clips.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But that you don't need my permission for.
		If you want to do fair use mashups where you make us say silly things, by all means.
		I'm just saying, if there's a part of the show that you think is important... Actually, to be honest, you don't even need permission to clip the show.
		It's fair use.
		The members-only show is different.
		There's some dirty people out there.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		What are they, people sharing it?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like lefties who go in there and then they'll purposefully record the show and then start sharing clips from it.
		And it's like, well, now you're infringing on our market.
		Because the member show, you got to be a member to watch.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		Nobody shares the member show, do they ever?
unidentified		I'm a big Tim Cass fan, and it's always praiseworthy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, but I mean, like, even for the member show, I have no problem with someone...
		Like, there's questions about copyright as it pertains to the membership that I can't say.
		I can say if you're watching this show right now live on YouTube, you can take clips from it and post them wherever you want, and if you make money on X from doing so, congratulations, I hope you make more.
		But for the members thing, I can't say that.
		Though in many instances, if there is something newsworthy or comment-worthy, it's fair use, to a certain degree.
		I've seen people act in ways that's not really fair use to take our show, which is behind a paywall, and then use it to make content or whatever.
		They claim it's fair use, but I think it's actually probably not.
		It might be.
unidentified		Do you prefer no one clips the members-only show?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm not saying that.
unidentified		I think that's fair.
unidentified		I think that's fair.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm not saying that.
		Yeah, I'm saying there's circumstances where it's going to be newsworthy.
		You know, we had Steve Bannon on and we're talking to him and he said something newsworthy.
		It's like, I can't deny that.
		But there are certain circumstances where it's certainly not newsworthy and leftists are pulling clips that just basically infringe on the market.
unidentified		Yeah.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		Like I shared that Jay gentleman who was trying to be Republican and he was getting shot down by his local people.
		He was trying to run for office, but the local people, Republicans, were not letting him do it.
		And it was a big one.
		It got word out.
		It helped him out, you know?
unidentified		Oh, OK.
unidentified		Yeah.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		When they're important.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right, we're gonna go.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		Collins are a great department.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		The Collins show is one of the best parts of this show, just be honest.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's great.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		I love the Collins.
unidentified		Okay, you're making me feel bad now.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		No, no, I'm just relaxed.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		No, but I'm not saying don't- I swear Raymond's clipped that members only show before.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		I have, I have, 100%.
unidentified		I was just talking, I was talking ish.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But I'm not saying that in and of itself is the problem.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm saying that there are certain circumstances where it's clearly just meant to bypass that we're trying to make money.
unidentified		Absolutely, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And that's when it's like they're trying to masquerade as fair use on things that probably don't make sense for it.
		But it's like, what am I going to do?
		I'm not going to sue anybody, so.
		But let's go to Super Chat.
		So smash the like button, subscribe to the channel, share the show with your friends.
		Head over to TimCast.com.
		I messed it up.
		Head over to TimCast.com, click join us, become a member, support the show.
		It's 10 bucks a month.
		It's Friday, just before Labor Day weekend.
		We're so close to just getting up and disappearing.
		But we're gonna stay here for a little bit longer.
		We're gonna read your Super Chats.
		Robert G. Smith says, howdy people.
		Kamala looked pretty rough last night and it was only Thursday.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		He is ready for Labor Day weekend.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		What can we say?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		One of my favorite memes ever.
		I posted it on my Instagram.
		It is that cat that is like, its eyes are half closed and its mouth is hanging open.
		And the camera is slowly zooming in on it.
		And it says, when you've already given it your all, but it's only Tuesday.
		And it's playing that song from what's her, I don't know, Sia?
		No, not Sia.
		I can't remember the name of the artist.
		But I just absolutely love that meme.
		And I posted it and people were like, damn, Tim looking rough.
		Are you all right?
		And I was like, I'm totally fine.
		I just love the meme.
		The cat looks so just destroyed.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		I think there's something to be said, though, for the fact that she looks she looks I'm not even trying to be mean.
		Like, she just looks exhausted in that interview.
		And she has actually only been on the campaign trail.
		Granted, it's been pretty hectic, but for what, a month at this point?
unidentified		People also forget how old she is.
		They pretend like she's younger.
		She's old.
		No, I mean, no offense.
		Excuse me, she's older.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		You know, there are older politicians who, like, derive strength from this.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		It was just, she should fire whoever set up that interview because the whole thing was not good for her.
unidentified		Maybe females shouldn't be on the campaign trail.
unidentified		Just kidding.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		Or at least give her some better lighting.
		I mean, come on.
		It was it was there were so many like minor things that I'd have to be like, what are we doing here?
unidentified		Yeah, right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Here it is.
		This is the meme I'm talking about.
		Okay, I posted that and people were like, feel better, Tim or whatever.
		And I'm like, no, no, I was actually laughing my ass off the whole time.
		Look at its face.
		It's just it's the look of I'm just so done with all of this.
		This poor cat.
		It's the funniest.
unidentified		That's why she wasn't laughing.
unidentified		There were no more laughs left in her, I guess.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's what Kamala looked like.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		She still has, what, two months at least to go?
		We're 65 days out from the end of the election.
		She can't look this exhausted and have only been in for a fraction of the time that even Biden was in.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right, Blave Kaiser says, my only problem with the culture war today was that it wasn't an additional two hours.
		I think The Culture War This Morning was my favorite show ever.
		We had Roman... I can't pronounce his name.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		Roman's awesome.
unidentified		How did you pronounce his name?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I know how to spell it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I need to pull it up.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		You had to translate.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Impulski.
		Should be easier.
		Super smart guy.
		He's a PhD researcher.
		We had Brian Saave.
		Am I pronouncing that one wrong?
		S-A-U-V-E.
		And he's a pastor and he's a Christian musician.
		And we were discussing simulation theory, the nature of existence, God, and Ian was saying crazy things that made the scientist look very confused, and it was hilarious.
		There was a point where Ian was like, if, like, we put a computer in crystals, or, like, it's like a circle, and, like, the pattern is, is it gonna change the outcome?
		And then the Roman just, like, turns his head and looks at me, like, help, what is he saying?
		And I was like, wait, wait, let me translate, let me translate.
		He's saying, does the structure of the computer by which you put the AI in alter the AI itself in some way?
		And he was like, oh, you're talking about substrate.
		It doesn't matter what the computer is, the algorithm will operate.
		And I was like, oh, there you go.
		Like, there you go, Ian.
		You didn't have to say weird, freaky things that sounded like hippy-dippy nonsense.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		And Roman was like, well, thank you for the translation.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I was like, let me try and translate Ianisms for you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's like, to the average person, he's not making sense, but I can try and- I understand his idea.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		There's several years of conversation.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		You're like, I can say it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I know what he's trying to say.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		It reminds me of when toddlers developed their own words for things and their parents know what they're talking about.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		Like, you know what Ian is asking for.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He said, he brought up Nassim Harriman and the Schwartzfield something proton, where it's- protons are actually two protons of the black hole.
		And then once again, Roman just like looks over at me like, And he didn't make that up.
		That's actually something I think Nassim Harriman is famous for, but people call it pseudoscience.
		I don't know.
		It was an amazing show.
		You can watch it on Tenet Media on YouTube.
		It was this morning from 10 to noon.
		We do those every Friday.
		And this was just, it was a wild show.
		And everybody was like, go long, go long, but we can't go long.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		I was expecting like a three hour one.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		But you weren't talking Civil War with Andrew Wilson, you know, Civil War.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's because with Andrew Wilson, we had a conversation, and at the end of the show, a new debate emerged.
		Whereas with this one, we spent two hours talking about simulation, and then we sort of got to that point where I was like, we could probably go on for a long time, but it was slowing down.
		It was like, it made it right to its end.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		It peaked out.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It hit the plateau, and I said, we'll stop at a high point.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		It was good, though.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		I enjoyed the heck out of it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Playway says, Tim, did you hear about the Michigan kid dragged 855 feet and left for dead on the road because he supported Trump?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Real story.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		What?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Um, I tried looking it up.
		I couldn't find anything.
		So I have no idea.
		Stacey Strickland says, Happy 10th anniversary to my wonderful husband, Mark, from age 19 to 29, and two beautiful babies later.
		The past decade has been the best years of my life so far.
		Happy to have many more.
unidentified		Wow!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Congratulations, and I will stress, Stacey, for you and Mark, you are the envy of the majority of people in existence.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		I love when we get super chats like that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		High school sweethearts with a loving family and living their best lives.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		We always super chat in with your anniversaries, the fact that you're in the hospital with your wives who are giving birth, although maybe you should focus on what's going on there.
		It's the best.
		It's so cool to hear people accomplish these things.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		Yo, positivity.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		There's a lot of positivity going on here, which is nice.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Big7588 says Kamala's a disgrace to women everywhere.
		First she was old Joe's trophy coffee girl.
		Now she is the left's servant on a leash.
		Needed a man to follow her around and keep her in line.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		It is crazy that the the girl boss queen of feminism right now had to bring a man to an interview and not even her husband like just this other guy she sort of picked up recently.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		She just met him like a month ago.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		They met when she went to tour a Planned Parenthood in his state.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		Weird friendship origin story I would say but you know.
unidentified		All right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Joe Arnn?
		Yeah, Joe Arnn won.
		It's always funny because R-N, if the text is really small, could be an M or an R-N-N.
		Says, congrats to RGS Jr.
		on his appearance.
		Love that.
		One of us.
		He forgot to add Google Gobble, but that's okay.
		Congrats, brother.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		I appreciate it.
		Thank you so much.
		I appreciate all the support from everyone, too.
		I do.
unidentified		100%.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Cilantro Industrial Complex says, Tim promised a celebrity.
		I told all my friends Radiohead was opening for Beyonce.
		So I'll add to that.
		That's why I said, We may have a celebrity guest coming on the show randomly.
		And that's because there was someone who said they wanted to come hang out, but they would not confirm a booking with us.
		And so it was more so someone being like, Oh, dude, I'd love to come check it out.
		Maybe I'll come on the show.
		And then I was like, cool.
		And so that's why we often don't promote, we don't announce who our guests are going to be.
		Now we've been doing it the members only and for the members only, I'll say we have booked this person tomorrow, but then sometimes they cancel and then we bring in someone from DC.
unidentified		I am happy to be a disappointment.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Wait, what?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Not the celebrity.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		It would have been you plus one, I think.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The celebrity wasn't replacing it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We wouldn't have told you to get out.
unidentified		No, no, no.
		I know.
		But when you said that earlier this week, I clipped it and I sent it to my mom and I was like, look, he's announcing me on the show.
		I was kidding.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		I like the idea that we just always tease that Beyonce is coming on the show.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		Wouldn't that be funny?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Beyonce is Tuesday.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		I heard that too.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you know what I was thinking would be really funny?
		When they were talking about how Kamala hasn't done an interview for 30 days before they announced the CNN thing, I was sitting on my couch with Allison and I was just like...
		You know, if I tweeted right now that we have secured an interview with Kamala Harris, the entire press would erupt and explode, and then they would report the claim without fact-checking, and then they would say, we've reached out to the Harris campaign for a comment, they have not yet returned one.
		And then what happens is, the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, maybe not the Journal, but the Times especially, Would report it without fact checking, because this is what they do.
		And they'll say podcast host Tim Pool has announced that this coming week, you know, Kamala Harris will be doing an interview, which would be weird if it was true.
		And then once they get a response, they would take the story down.
		Or they would say, Tim Pool lies, claiming interview with Kamala Harris was not true.
		Harris was, and it's not true.
		But then the smaller blogs and other garbage news outlets would not update.
		And I think it's kind of crazy.
		There's very few things like a tweet that would cause the media to react that way right now.
		Like, I'm not gonna do that.
		I'm just saying it's kind of crazy that you just go like, beep, and then this pressure on Kamala Harris just goes... It'd be nuts.
unidentified		Oh, she could never, though.
		She could never do that.
		She could never do spaces.
		No.
		It's crazy that she physically cannot, you know?
		Like, she does not have it in her.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		We have a chair for Tim Walz, though.
unidentified		You could bring your man.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's right here.
		So, on Fox, it was really funny.
		They said, you can't walk down, you know, Fifth Avenue in New York without bumping into someone begging to do a CNN hit.
		They found the one person to run for president who doesn't want to do it.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think it might have been Gutfeld who said that.
		I don't know.
		Or Waters.
		But that was actually really funny.
		It's like everyone's always begging to go on TV, but Kamala Harris is hiding under the covers.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		You didn't even do that many interviews pre-announcing the campaign.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		I mean, even while serving as vice president, she was very aloof from the media.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I will add, our potential celebrity guest is still coming.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		When did you announce this?
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		How long ago?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Did I miss it?
		I didn't say who was coming.
		I said this week we may have a celebrity guest coming who is totally apolitical and I don't know how they would handle being on a show like this at all.
unidentified		It was on the Monday Morning Show.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that sounds fun.
unidentified		Oh, was it?
unidentified		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		She's outdoing you.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		She's a better listener than you are.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm not going to say who we have coming.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		Sure, sure, sure.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		I'm not asking that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because they're probably not going to come.
		But they've been talking about, like, I'm in the area.
		I'll swing by when I can.
		It's Labor Day weekend.
		Maybe next week I'll see you.
		And it's like, OK, we'll see.
		But then they were like, can I come on the show?
		And I was like, I'm talking to my friends, I'm like, I think they're going to be able to do politics.
		Like, who cares?
		Yeah, let's do it anyway.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		Just another Ian or myself type.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		I was like, all right, third chair.
unidentified		I don't know if you and Ian are in the same category.
		Give yourself a little more credit there.
		I'm kidding.
		Ian, I am a huge fan of, by the way, but he's the only person who can say stuff that ticks me off.
		And I still, he's very likable.
		He continues to say stuff that ticks me off, but he's so dang likable.
		So he's special.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		I agree.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Jacob Hawley says, does it make sense that I'm center-left in voting Trump?
		I feel that Democrats are shifting economically to the right, but socially left, and Republicans are shifting economically left, but socially right.
		Does it make sense?
		One of my friends is socialist and vote Trump too.
		I agree.
		It used to be 15, 20 years ago, you'd say, well, I'm, you know, fiscally conservative, but socially, you know, liberal or whatever.
		And now you'd say, I'm socially conservative, but I'm kind of fiscally liberal.
		It's like inverted.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Back then it was like, hey man, look, I'm, I think free speech, gay rights, all that stuff.
		I had no problem, but we're spending too much money in government.
		We need to pull this stuff back.
		Now it's inverted.
		Now the, now it's like, The left is communist, and we're like, I'm liberal, I'm fiscally, like, or I'm sorry, yeah, Republicans, a lot of the people they've won over are the independents, and this is why it makes sense.
		When you're on the left, it's because you're in favor of certain things they've got as a moderate, and when you're a moderate on the right, it's because Something makes more sense on that side.
		So it's flipped and now people are saying we're socially conservative, because the social liberalism is wokeness and weird kid sex changes and things like that.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, and then we're going, but we still do like the idea of like some government programs.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We never gave that up.
		Conservatives don't like that stuff.
		All right, let's go.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		Wait, so conservatives don't like welfare offices type stuff?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Conservatives tend to be against government welfare programs.
		It's not an absolute, like the libertarians are, no, none.
		Conservatives are like, reduce, reduce, you know?
		Okay.
		Smashing Random Keys says it sounds like you would vote Trump no matter what because he's better than Kamala.
		If voting for the lesser evil was the important thing, then why didn't you vote for Trump in 2016 or Romney against Obama?
		Basically, voters shouldn't have any values and vote red no matter who.
		Incorrect!
		I have long said I do not vote for the lesser of two evils.
		That's why I didn't vote for Trump in 2016.
		Get it?
		The reason why I voted for Trump in 2020 is that after a first term, he proved to me that he was actually good.
		And I said, wow, he didn't start any wars.
		I can't believe it.
		It's the first time in my life we've got a president who isn't going and bombing people.
		No, don't get me wrong.
		Bombing was still happening, but that was Clinton, Bush's, and Obama's bombing that Trump inherited.
		And then Trump said, we're not going to start anymore.
		And so I'm like, wow, Trump.
		And then he actually, the Abraham Accords, he tried to bring peace to the Korean Peninsula.
		I'm like, this guy's actually doing the things that the left was hoping for in the late 90s.
		And in Occupy, he's doing these populist moves.
		He got rid of the Trans-Pacific Partnership.
		He wants to secure our borders.
		That was a Bernie Sanders proposal to secure our borders.
		And here's Donald Trump doing these things?
		I'm gonna vote for this guy.
		I view Donald Trump as a net positive, a force of good.
		I don't think he's perfect.
		That's impossible to get a perfect president.
		But the only conclusion I could come to is that on a scale of 0 to 100, where 50 is your neutral, Trump's 51.
		I actually think he's probably around like a 70, meaning there's a net bad that comes with any person, and that's only because we disagree and I think some things he shouldn't have done and some things he could do better.
		But I'm looking at all the past presidencies and I'm like, Trump actually is a force for good.
		I'm not saying he's an angel or a god emperor coming to save everybody and super altruistic.
		I'm saying that if you were to add up everything he does, we're finally in a net positive position.
		Romney and Obama?
		Well, look, I'll tell you this.
		That to me was...
		It's the same, I'm like, I'm not voting for any of these guys.
		Two net negatives.
		And to be honest, maybe Romney would not have been, I don't know.
		That's why when it was Trump-Hillary, I just laughed, I'm not voting for any of these guys.
		And then Trump wins, and then I laugh, I'm like, I would never vote for Trump.
		And then by 2020, after everything that had happened, I was like, I'm voting for Donald Trump.
		He had proven himself.
		And even, you know, After Obama.
		He's the first president I'd have voted for.
		He's the peace president, they claim.
		He's gonna bring our troops back.
		He's gonna negotiate these wars away.
		We were hoping for that.
		Then he goes and blows up kids.
		Like, one of the first orders he took was an executive action that bombed the village, killing 23 women and children.
		And I was just like...
		Okay, what was the point?
		One of the first things Trump did was signing off on a commando raid in Yemen, which resulted, allegedly, in the death of an American 8-year-old girl, Abdur Rahman al-Awlaki's sister.
		The difference between Donald Trump and Obama, the Obama administration bombed a civilian restaurant to kill a bunch of civilians, including a 16-year-old American, and Donald Trump ordered a commando raid in Yemen, a country we're not at war with, which is bad and I think should be investigated.
		However, it is only alleged We don't really have strong evidence to know exactly what happened in that raid.
		People in Yemen have claimed it resulted in the death of a young girl.
		That's why I say it should be investigated.
		For Barack Obama, it's admitted.
		They bombed a civilian restaurant with an airstrike, killing civilians, including an American.
		That's an admission of criminal guilt.
		I think all the presidents should be investigated.
	And I'll add this too, it's funny.
	Of all the things a president's been criminally charged for, Documents in his boxes in random, and I just go, come on.
	Garbage.
	You know why they're not going to go after Trump over the commando raids?
	Because they have to go and arrest Obama and Bush.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		But they could if they wanted to, and not do anything with anyone else, because they're running the show still.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I look at the document stuff and how they don't go after Biden, but they were forced to issue a statement about Biden being inept, that he couldn't stand trial basically, and documents are a much lighter play.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If they came out and said, Donald Trump's orders This would have immediately invoked presidential immunity questions, impeachment questions, and it would have immediately brought up all the Obama stuff, because Obama killed way too many Americans.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		When I wasn't paying attention to politics, all I knew was Obama.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		The only thing I knew about President Obama was Obama.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they call him Obama.
unidentified		I didn't even know that much.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Obama.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		I was like, who's he bombing?
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		I had no idea.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He was bombing kids.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		Apparently.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Too many of them.
		I could be wrong.
		I know for a fact of two Americans he killed, I think the total was four, though.
unidentified		Jeez.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But I could be wrong.
		And that's too many.
		That's too many.
		And so I've been nine American kids.
		I mean, yeah, bombing still... You know what they did during the Obama administration?
		I despise these people.
unidentified		Get it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They get me riled up.
		They were killing too many civilians.
		So they changed what counted as an enemy combatant to military-aged males.
		So that meant when some 19-year-old goat farmer was carrying a bucket of water to feed some farm animals, and they murdered him, they could call him an enemy combatant in their stats.
		He was a military-aged male.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		Are they doing that today still?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Probably.
		But you know what I can say is, Luke likes to bring it up that Trump increased the drone strikes, right?
		And he removed transparency on them.
		They actually used to report how many drone strikes there were.
		With Trump, he increased them.
		Got rid of the reporting.
		I am totally fine with that.
		I'll tell you why.
		I think the drone strikes are wrong in the area, but Trump is trying to remove our troops.
		I am not an absolutist who thinks Trump should shut everything down, get our troops back right now, no questions, no strategy, no plan.
		That's insane.
		Look at Afghanistan.
		We don't want that.
		What we want is a commitment to withdrawing our forces from these places where they don't belong, where it doesn't make sense, where their lives are at risk, where we're spending too much money.
		And it should be done strategically, and it should be done with haste.
		But strategically comes first.
		So when Donald Trump is pulling our troops out of these areas, he is maintaining the defense of the region with airstrikes.
		I'm not a fan of airstrikes, but I'm a much lesser of a fan of what Biden did with Afghanistan.
		If Donald Trump was in office, And carrying out the Afghanistan withdrawal.
		They would not have abandoned Bagram Air Force Base.
		He would have evacuated all American personnel and American allies in the region who had been acting as translators through Bagram, instead of the civilian airport, which they could not control, made no sense.
		And he would have used airstrikes to keep the Taliban from moving in and advancing and securing territories.
		Then you have got our troops out, keeping logistical capabilities in place for the National Security Forces of Afghanistan to keep the Taliban at bay, and he likely would have maintained airstrikes to stop the Taliban from moving in without U.S.
		personnel occupying or being in the country, or at least to a great, great degree.
		There may have been a small handful, like less than two double digits.
		But what Joe Biden does is abandon the Bagram Air Force Base in the middle of the night without warning, cut air support to all Afghan security forces.
		This meant guys were in the middle of flying helicopters and also the communications cut out.
		And they panicked, landed their helicopters and got out and ran.
		For real.
		That's how crazy it was.
		Then they ordered people to evacuate through a civilian airport, which they could not secure.
		That feels intentional.
		Like they wanted to just destabilize.
		And by allowing the Taliban to come in and seize billions of dollars of U.S.
		weapons, they're now being sold and traded across the region, exacerbating instability.
		I shouldn't say America.
		I hate saying that.
		The uniparty establishment, neocon and neolib, and the military industrial complex love the instability.
		It justifies further incursions.
		That would not have happened under Donald Trump.
		So I can tell you, Trump is doing things I don't like, but some we tolerate because they're moving us towards the end goal in the right direction.
		What the Democrats are doing right now is pushing us further and further deeper into these conflicts.
		And now Ukraine invaded Russia.
		I can't believe that we're at the point where Ukrainians using Western weapons, intelligence training, and volunteers has actually entered Russian territory.
		Creating such a threat that Russia is evacuating their civilians, 130,000.
		This is creating a potential existential threat to Russia where they will respond in the extreme.
		So, anyway.
		Obama administration.
		Those people are scumbags.
		Alright.
		Mike Jameson.
		Jameson?
		Maybe Trump should remind both sides that if World War III goes hot, abortion rights will be the last thing on anyone's mind.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		Amen.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's actually a good answer.
		If they bring up abortion, he can just go, I got a lot of thoughts about abortion.
		But the problem is, the biggest threat facing us right now is the escalation of war with Ukraine invading Russia, Russia's threat of nuclear retaliation.
		We can argue abortion after the fact.
		Right now we need to stop the war.
		We need to stop nuclear war from killing everybody.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		I think Harris is effectively able to make abortion an emergency issue by ignoring the global conflicts and the escalating tensions and the potential, not just, you know, national security issues, but also the economic consequences of a lot of these things.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		She is acting like abortion is the be-all and end-all of right now, when actually, you know, as we have all talked about tonight, it's an issue that has been moved and shifted over time for as long as we've had a government.
unidentified		On the border is another one of those issues that, like, the house is on fire, you know, and it's like, we're talking about abortion, which won't matter if we don't stop the invasion here, and then also World War III.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		Right?
		Harris is now like, oh, I mean, I don't trust her, and I don't know, like, it's impossible to say what she means by, I'm gonna enforce the border, but like, she is posturing as a more, more moderately on the issue than she ever has before.
		That's interesting that she, that means she knows it's a winning issue.
		We should definitely treat an international crisis the same way.
unidentified		I just reshared a priest saying this on X before the show started that the house is on fire and he was being asked about IVF and it's like we're arguing about these crazy things and this is such a critical moment that abortion just doesn't matter at all.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I agree.
		Man, the Ukraine stuff, it's kind of wild that it's not the biggest news.
		Ukraine invaded the Kursk region, and it's just like this war just went crazy.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		Well, Palestinians take over.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think it's because we're too close to an election.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The scary thing is, there's a lot of low-scale war tactics that can be implemented right now that will go under the radar because of it.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		You're right, because Palestine's not even that big of a deal anymore, it's all election, election, everything.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Kamala Harris gave an interview, can you believe it?
		And I'm like, Israel invaded the West Bank.
		Like, that is crazy.
		Israel launched a preemptive strike on Hezbollah, that's insane.
		And I'm watching Fox News and they're like, well they had to, otherwise Hezbollah was going to attack them, and Hezbollah's been attacking them, so they had to attack first.
		And I'm just like...
		Get out of here, dude.
		And the invasion of the West Bank is crazy.
		This is going to go... Is that an escalation that didn't need to happen?
		In my opinion, yes.
		I am open to any argument that says I don't know enough about the conflict, because I don't.
		All I know is hearing that October 7th was Gaza, Hamas, attacking Israel, I can understand the move to cut off Hamas.
		Now they're making the argument that the same threat is potentially in the West Bank, so they have to go in and advance before the attack can happen.
		And I'm like, yeah, now you're beyond the confines of rational arguments.
		Because with the Gaza stuff, I can just be like, dude, not my war, whatever.
		Now I'm going, what are you doing?
		With the Hezbollah and with the West Bank?
		Now it's like, dude, we should not be involved.
		I say that 50 million times.
		Alright, we'll grab one more.
		BasedAfrican says, Right.
		African says, had a discussion with my black mom about reparations.
		When I suggested canceling income tax on slave descendants for some time to generate wealth
		for hard workers, she responded, you're too young.
		That's what affirmative action was for.
		Affirmative action was reparations to her.
		Right.
		The argument was being made that this was effectively going to be some kind of reparations,
		but you know, the argument's going to come up every four years because it gets votes.
		All right, my friends.
		I wonder how many of you were currently driving in your car, on your way to your vacation spot or to your family's house, because you're gonna have a barbecue tomorrow, Labor Day weekend is here, and you were listening to the show.
		If you were, then have fun, and thank you for listening to the show.
		Smash the like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends.
		Become a member at TimCast.com to support our work.
		You can follow me on X, at TimCast.
		Natalie, do you want to shout anything out?
unidentified		Yeah, I'm on all the platforms.
		You can stick it to censorship on Instagram by following me because you get a little warning when you do.
		I'm at nataliejeanbeisner on Instagram and I'm at njbeisner on X.
raymond g stanley-jr ▲ ● ▼		I am Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
		I had a great time.
		I appreciate hanging out with the number two IRL fan.
		But yeah, I had a great time.
		Let's go.
		Also, join the Discord.
		It's fun.
		We're going to probably, I'm going to be hanging out there tonight as I'm not going back to PA today.
		So come by, say hi.
hannah claire brimelow ▲ ● ▼		It's been so fun having you both here.
		I like Friday shows.
		I feel like they have their own vibe.
		I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlow.
		I'm a writer for scnr.com.
		It's Scanner News.
		Follow their work at TimCastNews.
		It's a really amazing team.
		I'm really grateful for them.
		If you want to follow me personally, I'm on Instagram, hannahclaire.b.
		You don't get a warning when you follow me because I'm very boring.
		And I'm on Twitter at hannahclaireb.
		Thanks for everything you guys do.
		Have a great long weekend.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We have no show on Monday because on Monday you should be hanging out with your friends and your family and eating a nice burger or a hot dog or maybe you're vegan and you got a portabella burger.
		Hey, that's okay.
		We're gonna enjoy this Labor Day weekend.
		We'll be back Tuesday.
		Thanks for hanging out.

▲