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RFK SLAMS Democrats As CORRUPT, Endorses Trump, Declares WAR On Dems w/Clint Russell | Timcast IRL
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tim pool
We'll see you next week.
today announced that he would be throwing his support behind Donald Trump, and just minutes before the start of the show, he spoke with Trump at a rally, and it was incredible.
I have tremendous respect for this man.
I completely agree with everything as he laid it out.
The speech he gave earlier today was incredible.
He called out the Democrats as the party of Big Pharma, of war, of corruption.
They no longer represent him.
They are no longer the party of his father or his uncle, and for that, This is really amazing.
He said he's going to keep his name on the ballot in blue states where he wants you to vote for him.
And in the battleground states, he'll take his name off and he's throwing his support behind Donald Trump.
This is massive.
This is the big news.
We're going to talk about this and the polls.
We've got some other stories to go through.
A viral video of Tim Walz yanking on his son's arm.
Some say he's just pulling him out of the way of a teleprompter.
He almost stumbled into it.
Others are saying either way, it's a bit aggressive and it looks abusive.
Then you combine that with the video of his kid crying for his dad saying he loves him, and there's a bit of a story there.
But it should be interesting.
And then we got some news on the Secret Service, who will be reprimanded over what happened in Pennsylvania.
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more, we got Clint Russell.
clint russell
Yo, Clint Russell, host of Liberty Lockdown, co-host of The Best Political Show, co-host of Tower Gang.
My list of credits is getting too long at this point.
I also ran for the vice presidency in the Libertarian Party.
Thank God I came up short.
And I happen to be here on a day in which my cold, jaded heart has been inspired by one RFK Jr.
I am genuinely impressed by the man and I cannot wait to talk about it.
So thank you for having me.
tim pool
The hope is through the roof.
The white pill is here.
We also got Xavier hanging out again.
xaviaer durousseau
Thanks for having me back.
I'm Xavier DeRusso.
I used to be a liberal lifelong and then I started doing research.
So now I'm a PragerU personality and a frequent contributor on Fox News Max and Piers Morgan.
tim pool
The truth shall set you free.
xaviaer durousseau
I sure did.
tim pool
And Ian's here.
ian crossland
Hi everyone, Ian Crosland here.
I'm an actor, musician, TimCast contributor, and a pretty funny guy.
I'm also really great at magic.
If you listen closely, I might trigger you tonight.
tim pool
Which kind of magic?
Like card tricks?
ian crossland
Yeah, general.
hannah claire brimelow
You can pull a rabbit from a hat?
ian crossland
No, like real magic.
unidentified
Really?
ian crossland
Yeah, like changing the way you think and stuff with the magnetic fields and stuff like that.
hannah claire brimelow
I forgot you control the weather.
tim pool
We call that schizophrenia, but you know.
ian crossland
You'd be surprised.
I actually will.
I think you'd be surprised.
LeBron James and the Cleveland Cavaliers back to the victory.
hannah claire brimelow
So you use it for sports.
ian crossland
Yeah, and you can use it during debates too to make people screw up when they're talking if you focus on the TV if it's live.
tim pool
Sure.
hannah claire brimelow
So if you don't feel like yourself, you're probably being controlled by Ian Crosland.
I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlow.
I'm a co-host here on the show.
I'm a writer for SCNR.com, Scanner News.
Follow their work at Tim Cass News.
Thanks for tuning in.
Let's get started.
tim pool
Here's the big story, ladies and gentlemen, and RFK Jr.
really knew how to milk this one out.
They start earlier in the week by saying, we're considering dropping out and endorsing Donald Trump, which sparks a huge press wave.
Then the next day it's, sources leak to the press, they're going to do it.
And then today they do it, stealing the limelight for three days out of the press cycle this week.
Very brilliant.
Check this out.
RFK Jr.
says he is suspending his campaign and endorsing Donald Trump.
The scion of one of the most famous Democratic families had attracted voters dismayed with a Trump-Biden rematch, but Biden's exit and Harris' nomination upended the race.
Now, I don't care to read the Washington Post's filtering of what happened.
I'm gonna show you a clip.
This is what RFK Jr.
had to say.
And this right here, I think, hits the nail on the head.
Though, it was a pretty long speech.
And I feel like everything he said represents so much of what we feel here on this show.
It was brilliant, but I want you to listen to this one clip.
robert f kennedy-jr
I'm sorry to keep everybody waiting.
16 months ago, in April of 2023, I launched my campaign for President of the United States.
I began this journey as a Democrat, the party of my father, my uncle, the party which I pledged my own allegiance to long before I was old enough to vote.
I attended my first Democratic convention at the age of six in 1960.
And back then, the Democrats were the champions of the Constitution, of civil rights.
The Democrats stood against authoritarianism.
Against censorship, against colonialism, imperialism, and unjust wars.
We were the party of labor, of the working class.
The Democrats were the party of government transparency and the champion of the environment.
Our party was the bulwark against big money interests and corporate power.
True to its name, it was the party of democracy.
As you know, I left that party in October because it had departed so dramatically from the core values that I grew up with.
It had become the party of war, censorship, corruption, big pharma, big tech, big ag, and big money.
tim pool
Hear, hear.
That was the opening to why he was he was suspended.
You know, he goes on to say, The system is rigged.
The Democrats threw all of their legal weight against them.
He didn't stand a chance.
He's clearly pissed at them.
And that's why, amazingly, he said he's going to keep his name on the ballot in blue states, and he wants you to vote for him there.
He actually said there's polling suggesting a tie could take place and a contingent election could see him in the White House.
But in battleground states, where he may be a spoiler, he's pulling back, taking his name out, and he's throwing his support behind Donald Trump.
Check this out.
This is another clip.
CNN cuts away from RFK Jr.' 's speech as he's explaining how Democrats and their media partners pulled a coup on Joe Biden.
So, we'll jump.
robert f kennedy-jr
They would be astonished to learn of a Democratic Party presidential nominee who, like Vice President Harris, has not appeared in a single interview or an unscripted encounter with voters for 35 days.
unidentified
We've been listening to independent candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
from Phoenix outlining what led him Yo, Fox did cut away eventually, but they played a lot of it through.
tim pool
It's amazing and unsurprising.
He ripped the media to shreds.
He's talking about how the media's corrupt, how Kamala's got no campaign policies.
I could not have said this better myself.
He gets up on there and she's like, she has no campaign policies.
She's offering nothing.
She's not given any interviews.
How are the American people supposed to decide between Trump and Kamala when Kamala's not telling them anything, doing any interviews, and the media's covering up for her?
clint russell
Well, that's exactly the point I was going to go with, is that the contrast couldn't be more stark.
Less than 24 hours between Kamala having her biggest moment of her political career and delivering nothing but platitudes, basically a repackaged hope and change, but now with joy and cackles or something.
And then you contrast that with the incredible, just apparent sincerity that comes from RFK Jr.
in an over hour-long speech that riffs and delves deep into topics that are kind of esoteric. His depth of
knowledge when it comes to the chronic health issues that the
American people, but he really hammered home the fact that it's really damaging our children. It was just so
just potent and emotional and and obviously from
from the heart. And the contrast between that and the contrived nature of the DNC for the past three
days could not be more stark. If people are watching both, I don't see how they come away
thinking anything other than the Democrat Party has left me.
tim pool
I'm so inspired by RFK Jr.'s speech, because he basically said so much of what we've said on this show.
I'm not a conservative.
They try and call me far-right or conservative, whatever.
I feel exactly as he does, and I've been seeing this for a long time.
Now, he may be late to the party, and that's totally fine.
He is a Kennedy.
He is the son of RFK.
He is the nephew of JFK, and he is standing up saying, look what has become of this party.
The important thing is he can say it better than me.
He can reach more people than me.
And so for all of us who feel this way, disaffected liberals, post-liberals, this man just stood up in front of the world and amplified everything we've been trying to say.
So now when you're talking to your liberal family member, maybe they're older, maybe they're a boomer, you can say, hey, don't take my word for it.
Listen to RFK Jr.
These are the Kennedys.
ian crossland
Listen to them.
Right when he announced, the media slammed him.
And I remember asking my mom, what do you think, RFK?
She's like, I don't know.
This is the same woman that loves RFK Jr.
and has loved him my entire life and talked about how great he is on the environment.
Loved Bobby Kennedy Sr., his father.
Loved John F. Kennedy, the whole thing.
But the media got in on him early, like day one, just so they threw the poison in the well.
So I was like, what are you talking about?
It's Bobby Kennedy Jr.
He's the man.
That's the guy.
hannah claire brimelow
He hasn't changed since you liked him before.
ian crossland
Same guy.
Now he's got a platform.
clint russell
The Kennedys are Camelot.
I mean, they are like, they are modern political royalty up there, if not superseding any living political family.
So for him, the son of Bobby Kennedy and the nephew of a former assassinated president, who's beloved by Democrats, the old guard Democrats.
tim pool
I think he would still be a current assassinated president, just for clarification.
clint russell
But I think for it to come from his lips, as you're pointing out, it's so much more impactful.
And, you know, even though I'm a second-gen, lifelong libertarian, I also miss the good Democratic Party.
The aspects of them that did contrast the neoconservative wing of the GOP when they had lost their minds, when the Christian conservatives were kind of running amok in the 90s trying to ban some of my favorite music, things of that nature, and the Democrats were kind of on my side with these things.
Those guys are gone, you know?
And I think that it took RFK a lot longer to realize it than it did me, but I think that this is the first step in a healing process that this nation desperately needs, and it needs self-sacrifice.
I posted earlier that I had been considering voting for RFK Jr.
for many months, primarily because I'm so frustrated with Trump's unwillingness to look back on what transpired in 2020 and just be a little bit more open and honest about it.
But it's that level of candor and willingness to take a back seat, self-sacrifice, that like all of my concerns about Bobby Kennedy's sincerity and whether or not this was an ego campaign, they were all assuaged in the same moment that I decided I would probably vote for this guy.
He was simultaneously telling me to vote for somebody else.
Very powerful moment.
hannah claire brimelow
I think he's a really incredible candidate for a lot of reasons.
You know, he always had a tough road ahead of him.
I mean, if you look even now, his family is releasing this statement saying he's betrayed us all.
Meanwhile, they've been actively putting out commercials saying we want him to drop out.
He's not one of us.
The thing that always struck me about the Kennedy family legacy is a certain level of loyalty, right?
Like, they are their own community.
If you read any of the biographies of the Kennedy children, like, they thought they were the coolest gang on the planet, and they liked being a part of it.
And I think the fact that they are so quick to turn on RFK really tells you that this is a family
that is in crisis.
In a way, a lot of American families are in crisis.
And the fact that he's willing to come out and say, I feel strongly about these issues
and I want them to change, I'm willing to take risks for it, I think is inspiring to
a lot of Americans.
It's very cool to see that.
tim pool
You said something before the show about you're effectively saying, how could they lose now?
So I don't know if you want to say it again.
Yeah, yeah.
clint russell
I mean, I think that this tag team represents kind of a binary dissident.
I don't know how to put it, like just a team.
Like, it's the first time I've seen kind of a unified movement in so long.
It's the dissident left, the dissident right, and kind of the dissident moderates,
if there are moderates left in this country, that I think finally have a home.
And it's under, you know, it's really unlikely bedfellows.
But I think that there's a real opportunity here, particularly if Donald Trump is willing to put RFK Jr.
in some sort of role, be it HHS or, God forbid, the head of the CIA.
I don't know how I can't vote for that ticket.
You know how hard that is for me to say, Tim, because I am so frustrated about 2020.
That is such a momentous achievement.
He spent the past year-plus explaining in detail not just what he believes but how he knows that the intel agencies were responsible for the death of his father and his uncle.
And then Donald Trump reaches out to him and he says, hey, you want to be their boss?
That's the end of a movie that I couldn't have written myself.
tim pool
Poetic justice.
But how does Trump lose now?
He can lose.
clint russell
How does he lose?
Yes.
I mean, this is my deep concern.
And I also posted about this earlier.
Shout out to the Hodge twins.
They responded on it.
And unfortunately, they agree with me.
I think that because if you're as convinced as I am that some sort of intelligence agency took a shot at Donald Trump, Because he will almost certainly skyrocket in the polls as people kind of realize that this has a real viable path to victory, I think that the odds that the intelligence agencies take another go at him increases exponentially, and it makes me very nervous.
So I think that the razor's edge that the Trump campaign has to walk over the next 75 days is that they have to keep this race, or the polls, Close enough that the deep state, if you will, believes that it is within the parameters of fortification.
However, it is actually close enough that it's not.
unidentified
Yeah.
clint russell
And I don't know if they can find that balance where they still think they can do it, but they just happen to be wrong, and therefore they don't take Trump out.
This is why I'm so nervous about the next 75 days, and even beyond that.
tim pool
I mean, even if you were to— With RFK's speech, This is, we could be looking at 2 to 5 percent is what he's polling at on average.
His average in 530 is 4.7.
If out of that 4.7, 3, you know, 70 percent, let's just say 3 percent switch to Trump, Trump can't, he can't lose.
I mean, 3 percent, that means that's a six point swing between two candidates.
He can't lose.
He can still lose, though.
clint russell
Yes.
tim pool
Because we're looking at shadow campaigns and quote-unquote fortification.
That's scary.
hannah claire brimelow
I think nothing's for sure.
It has been a really interesting week for the Trump campaign.
I mean, Tim's already alluded to this, but the media cycle during the DNC, you know, with the RNC, so much of it was still dominated by the attempted assassination and what was going on at the convention.
Joe Biden did a couple rallies.
It really wasn't getting the airtime that I think they were hoping it would.
But this week, especially with the Theo Vaughn interview, which I think really opens a lot of moderate or maybe just not very
political people up to what Donald Trump is like. And the kind of long rollout of this long-awaited RFK-Trump
merger, so to speak, is really the first time I feel like the Republican ticket
has taken back the news cycle from a very dominant pro-Harris messaging that we've
gotten since July.
clint russell
And they did it during the DNC.
hannah claire brimelow
During the DNC.
unidentified
Yeah.
clint russell
I mean, that is so powerful.
hannah claire brimelow
She couldn't sustain the attention that she had before.
tim pool
So they lied about Beyonce showing up.
clint russell
Right.
tim pool
Amazing.
clint russell
They were so desperate, they're just making up special guests.
tim pool
Check this out.
We got this story from the Daily Mail.
The chart that shows why RFK Jr.
dropping out could decide whether Trump or Harris wins the election.
That being said, this is news for Donald Trump.
This is good news.
Take a look at this.
So this is from their poll.
51% of people who said they were going to vote for RFK Jr.
say they would vote for Donald Trump.
26% for Kamala Harris.
23% don't know.
Let's just put it this way.
4.7% aggregate, according to FiveThirtyEight, for RFK.
Let's say 2.2% of voters, because this is all, 2.2% of voters switch from RFK to Trump.
That boost, Kamala Harris can't make up.
Two percentage points is a massive boost.
She's going to be behind and struggling to keep up.
The basement campaign, I think, can only go so far.
And she's now, actually during the DNC, the prediction markets are starting to favor Donald Trump.
So he's starting to improve in a lot of areas, in the betting markets especially, and now with this RFK endorsement.
They just stole the entire DNC.
This was supposed to be Kamala Harris wrapping up Thursday night at the DNC with what Jonathan Shate calls the greatest acceptance speech I've ever seen.
Oh, spare me, dude.
But during the week of the DNC, The news is stolen by Nicole Shannon saying, we're considering endorsing Trump.
Everyone then turns their head from the DNC.
The next day, sources leak, they're gonna do it.
And then, the day after, Kamala Harris gives the speech, RFK steals the thunder with the speech in the evening, and then a primetime rally with Trump, ensuring that all of the headlines that we're gonna be sharing and we're gonna be talking about ain't gonna be Kamala Harris.
xaviaer durousseau
I guarantee Kamala just lost a lot of voters too that weren't even planning on voting for RFK because if you think about what he was saying in his speech, like the Democratic Party literally runs in his veins, yet he's up here saying that they have completely alienated everything that we've ever stood for.
And looking at like all the censorship that has happened, everybody knows McFarland is corrupt.
Everybody knows these different things are going, or I shouldn't say everybody because a lot of people haven't woken up yet somehow.
A Kennedy being up there exposing all of that and saying that the Democrats have left him?
That's profound.
Like, I don't think people have really let that sit in, just how profound it is for a Kennedy to get up there and say that the Democratic Party is not what it used to be.
Because many moderates, if you talk to them now, they identify as Kennedy Democrats still all these years later.
And that side of the party is just completely annihilated.
clint russell
Well, that's exactly why the media came out all those 15 months ago when he first announced and tried to immediately kookify the guy.
They tried to make it so that even though he makes incredibly cogent and compelling arguments, they wanted him to be persona non grata from Jump Street so that any of his very valid arguments would not be heard by those people because they still look to the corporate media and they They take their signals from them as to, who is reputable?
Who should I listen to?
And they knew that he would be a very damning character to be on the political landscape, and they were right.
Because even with them demonizing him for 15 months straight, he still left an indelible mark on this race.
tim pool
I think, and I think the only reason this polling starts dropping is not because anybody was like, he's a bad guy.
It's because people started saying, it doesn't appear he has a path to victory.
RFK fought as hard as he could.
And then he said, okay, Trump it is.
unidentified
Right.
ian crossland
And now to say that what were you guys are saying about who's that he's going to win with 2.2% for sure, like in a free and open and fair election.
That is true.
The dark magic involved right now, which I'm concerned is that the Empire has dominion over our voting systems.
It's a good bit of a... to say dominion is hyperbolic, but you understand they named that company Dominion.
That's wild.
It's like meme magic.
It's as if they want us to know that they have dominion over the voting system.
I don't know.
But it's mechanical electronic voting that they can flip behind the scenes.
I am damn concerned about that, man.
tim pool
I agree, but I would just broaden that and say fortification.
That's what they call it.
Fortification.
It could take any form.
Now, we've seen in Virginia that they're saying it's going to be all paper ballots.
If more red states make those moves, that's good news.
But this is Virginia.
Virginia is supposedly supposed to be blue.
I'd be willing to make a bet, and I don't know for sure, but I'd be willing to make a bet.
With Virginia going all paper ballots, it turns red.
clint russell
Interesting.
You might be right.
tim pool
Obvious reasons.
clint russell
Yeah, no, I think, I mean, you definitely could be right.
Yeah, I mean, I share your concern, but this has always been my thesis, and I never really bought into Trump's narrative about the 2020 election and Vote Flipping Day.
Not that I didn't buy into it, I just didn't have evidence to prove it out.
What I am confident of, though, and they were brazen enough to brag about it in that Notorious Times
article where they talked about the cabal of elites that worked in tandem behind the scenes not to
steal the election but rather to fortify the election. It's such an absurdity. It's like a
Bond villain. They have to tell you what they're going to do. I want to make a point somewhat
tim pool
outside of this conversation to stress how important it is that right now we get a candidate at
least, at least, who's talking talking about ending war.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Ukraine has invaded the Kursk region of Russia.
Big deal.
This is Western forces, NATO weapons and intelligence and money being used to invade and attack Russian civilians.
Kursk issued an evacuation on 130,000 civilians.
Putin's probably happy about it.
He can use this for mass mobilization.
But if this escalates, we're now talking about an invasion of Russia.
Ukraine is what?
What is Ukraine, right?
It means borderlands.
No disrespect to Ukrainians.
I think it's a great country.
It got invaded.
None of our business.
We get involved.
An invasion of Russia.
Russia is a world power.
This could be a spark that escalates the current conflict into something substantially more dramatic.
clint russell
Agreed.
tim pool
I don't know that Trump solves the problem.
I guarantee Kamala, who's in the office now, will make things worse, as they actively are.
Exactly.
And this is what RFK Jr.
started talking about.
He started talking about the war in Ukraine and the funding and everything they're doing is driving us towards annihilation.
Donald Trump may not solve all of our problems, but at least he's the guy who's saying, when I was president, we did not have this war.
Putin backed off.
We got rid of ISIS.
We worked on peace agreements.
You've got a choice.
Donald Trump is the least perfect guy for the job, for sure, but he's the best person we've got right now.
And if he does bring peace, this could avert an existential threat to humanity.
clint russell
You're not overstating it whatsoever.
I mean, I remember I debated destiny in Tennessee almost 18 months ago now.
By the way, all of his predictions during that debate were wrong, Destiny.
I'll be waiting for your apology.
Anyway, anyways.
Yeah, it's a really big deal, man.
And it's just a catastrophic loss of life.
You know, from Libertarian, I'm a hardcore non-interventionist anti-war person.
That, to me, is the most compelling argument for Donald Trump.
And I still believe that despite the fight, fight, fight moment is probably the most courageous and will go down in history as the most memorable aspect of this campaign.
For me, the most memorable thing or the most important thing he said was when he was doing the CNN town hall and he said, I just want people to stop dying.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, it was amazing.
clint russell
It was so powerful.
It was so profound.
It was so simple, but so beautiful because we never hear it by these scumbag politicians who want endless wars.
He clearly does not.
This is, you know, how I was talking about RFK Jr's sincerity.
Trump is also sincere in this regard.
I do believe that.
tim pool
Trump doesn't want to rule the world.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
The military-industrial complex does.
They want to take Ukraine.
They want to shut down Russia.
They want to control Russia so that Russia can't overcharge Europe for gas and energy so that we can expand the NATO power and economic bloc so that we can create a quote-unquote new world order.
And I'm not talking about a quote a new world order as a proper noun.
I'm talking about the What George H.W.
Bush said in the early 90s about how the liberal economic order would transform into some kind of new type of world order.
That's what they want.
Trump doesn't care.
Trump says, Russia, make your oil, trade your oil.
Be Russia.
We're going to take care of America.
Don't screw with us or we'll nuke you.
And Russia's like, OK.
And they back off.
We had in Ukraine the escalation, the ousting of Yanukovych and the building up of troops by Russia on the border.
Trump gets in.
Everything stopped.
ian crossland
But didn't he send a bunch of money to Ukraine or weapons?
tim pool
Congressionally approved.
So Trump has limited authorities.
But the point is, while he is far from perfect, he did a lot of... Tomahawk missiles into Syria?
Big mistake.
ian crossland
Only so much you can do as the president, as the commander of the ship, as the pilot.
You can't just hit the brakes on the airplane or everything falls.
tim pool
It's true.
But as our chief diplomat...
Negotiating with these other powers, we got no new wars for the first time in my life.
And so when I'm looking at that, and I'm looking at Kamala Harris, who's in the administration now, and we're on the brink of World War III, I'm like, Trump, please.
clint russell
Exactly.
xaviaer durousseau
That's why it's crazy that Kamala Harris really got on that stage yesterday and made it seem like Trump was this Communist authoritarian who started all these wars and created all these conflicts.
It's like this was during your time in the White House.
I don't think enough people are paying attention to the fact that Kamala Harris acts like she has not been in the White House the last three and a half years.
Like you have been a part of every negative decision that has led to our downfall, but you want to blame Trump when he hasn't been in the White House since 2020.
hannah claire brimelow
And can you imagine the girl boss attitude if she goes to have a negotiation with Putin, right?
The, I'm speaking, like, this is not someone I want representing our country in a potentially tense situation.
She's not charming enough to get elected by her own party fairly.
I don't want her representing us, especially with people who feel like we've been actively funding their enemy.
clint russell
It was a couple years ago, but she was actually asked about the Russia-Ukraine war, and she goes in this long soliloquy about how Ukraine is a smaller country, and Russia is a larger country, and, you know, she's just such an imbecile.
It's embarrassing that they would even attempt to foist her upon us, but you guys are all obviously correct that she would be an existential danger, not just to the American people, but to the entire globe, put in the role of negotiating peace.
tim pool
We got some big news that dropped just before the show.
This is a tweet from Jack Posobiec.
Breaking, President Trump announces he will establish a presidential commission on assassinations to be headed by RFK with full power to declassify all documents related to JFK, RFK, and J13.
Oh wow.
Poetic justice.
unidentified
Wow.
ian crossland
You mentioned before.
tim pool
Oh man, I'm sorry dude.
I'm just, I have to gloat a little bit longer about.
I want, I want RFK Jr.
to be in charge of the intelligence agencies and I want him to just get on stage and be like, I'm declassifying JFK.
Here you go.
They killed him.
My uncle, they killed him.
hannah claire brimelow
I want to see him do that for poetic reasons, but I really do want him to be involved with Health and Human Services, right?
Someone who is really passionate about fixing the problems that we have with Big Pharma and our food supply, I think that would be fascinating.
Because I just think so many people who are in that position right now are sort of like from the system.
They've been a bureaucrat or they've worked for pharmacies.
ian crossland
I bet, though, the head of the CIA, if you could have the secret police investigating those people, that would be very important.
Because if there really are big bureaucrats manipulating our food supply,
the FDA might not even be able to figure it out, but the CIA can get down to business.
xaviaer durousseau
Yeah, the question—sorry—the question I'm asking, though, is after
RFK gets in there, he clears house, he exposes everything, because at this point,
like, we all pretty much know the CIA killed JFK, let's be honest.
But when all of that gets declassified, then what?
What is, like, our next step?
Because it's about to be turmoil when all these secrets start to unravel, because I can only imagine the things that we don't know, or that we have been completely led astray about.
It's like, who gets held accountable?
Do we just abolish the CIA?
Like, what is the next step after that?
ian crossland
Probably it'll get plastered as fake news, and then half the country will believe it's fake.
xaviaer durousseau
I think the dam is broken.
They're struggling to maintain narrative control.
RFK got up on stage.
tim pool
He took a sledgehammer to the TV.
clint russell
It doesn't really matter what the media does because if he actually gives him that power
to declassify and then Trump can respond with executive orders and things of that nature
to actually go after these folks, they could do it.
It's going to come down to AG.
tim pool
I think the dam is broken.
They are struggling to maintain narrative control.
RFK got up on stage.
He took a sledgehammer to the TV.
We got this clip.
Benny Johnson posted it.
Trump is conducting an independent presidential commission on assassination attempts.
Let's listen.
donald j trump
Soon after I was, I can't even believe I have to say this, nearly assassinated in Pennsylvania last month, Bobby called me to express his best wishes.
clint russell
How does he make that sound funny?
donald j trump
Heard by leaders who stand up to the corrupt political establishment.
When you stand up, You bring on some trouble for yourself, but you have to do what's right.
You have to do what's right for the country.
I will tell you, we are both in this to do what's right for the country.
That's one thing I can tell you.
unidentified
I should be his VP, man.
clint russell
I would have loved that.
unidentified
That would have been big.
donald j trump
He lost his father and uncle in service to our country, and Bobby himself was subject to repeated threats to his
safety during the course of his campaign while being denied
protection by the Harris-Biden administration.
And this is a tribute in honor of Bobby.
I am announcing tonight that upon my election, I will establish a new independent Presidential Commission on Assassination Attempts.
tim pool
Wow.
donald j trump
They will be tasked with releasing all of the remaining documents pertaining to the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.
clint russell
Does he go so far as to actually appoint RFK to it?
tim pool
So, that's what Jack said.
Okay.
This clip doesn't mention it, but I think he said RFK Jr.
ian crossland
would... Man, if he gives him the power... He said it's an honor for him to do an independent commission.
He didn't say that he put him in charge of it.
clint russell
Yeah, but still, I mean, still, it's a big step.
It's a big step.
Just imagine, he's been on this Homer's Odyssey to figure out who took out his father and his uncle, and then he's just all of a sudden given the power to declassify the documents to actually prove out the case.
It's a really profound thing.
It is.
tim pool
I think people need to pause and think about the personal in the story of the assassinations of JFK and RFK.
We hear these from a great historical context.
We talk about the grassy knoll and, you know, the magic bullet theory and things like this, right?
And so for us, it's this surface-level history lesson.
We learn about it.
This is his dad.
Trump is saying, you're finally going to get the documents about who killed your father.
I mean, just imagine how you would feel if you lost your dad and someone said, the keys, all the answers you've been waiting for your entire life, are standing right in front of you.
ian crossland
This is Bobby Kennedy Sr., is his dad, got sassed by Sirhan Sirhan, this is the official narrative.
clint russell
RFK Jr.
does not believe that.
ian crossland
In a kitchen, like he's walking through a kitchen after a speech, and some guy runs up to him, but there's a guy behind him with a gun too.
hannah claire brimelow
And we talked about this a little bit before the show, but you know, R.K.
was repeatedly denied Secret Service protection, and I know the Biden administration post-bac said, you know, initially when he asked for it over a year ago, you're only supposed to get it 120 days before the election.
He got it less than 100 days before the election because of the assassination on Trump's life.
The reason that provision exists at all, the reason that Secret Service protection is offered to major presidential candidates, is because his dad was assassinated.
I can't imagine being in this position where these historical precedents aren't just because of someone you've heard about on the news, but because they are active threats to your family that cause all of these rules and ways that we view presidential and political security to change.
That's deeply profound.
And I think, you know, the thing that struck me the most about RFK Jr.
when he was on the show was that he was just very authentic.
He's very sincere.
And I think that this is something that resonates with a lot of Americans who are frustrated with sort of the political rhetoric.
That's what I felt most from Kamala's speech last night.
She was just sort of tap dancing around the points she's supposed to talk about.
And then she's, you know, smiling and waving and exiting the stage.
She's not offering anything.
I mean, opportunity, economy?
What is she even saying?
tim pool
I want to play this clip real quick.
I'm trying to find where Trump does say it'll be RFK.
This may be it.
donald j trump
And they will be tasked with releasing all of the remaining documents pertaining to the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.
clint russell
I'm going to put his nephew in charge!
He's so cool.
donald j trump
Yeah, I don't think he says it.
conduct a rigorous review of the attack last month but I tell you I have never
had more people ask me please sir release the documents yeah I don't think
unidentified
he says it Kennedy I don't know and this is a trip for the show
clint russell
Clinton, you mentioned he they asked Trump before why he says in honor of Bobby, not that he's actually giving him the right.
ian crossland
They asked Trump before why he didn't release the documents.
And you said that Trump, his response was, if you saw what I saw, you wouldn't have released them either.
clint russell
That's what he told Judge Napolitano, and I take him at his word that that's how it went down.
Now, the question is, what did he see?
And my obvious suspicion or conclusion that I come to is that, well, it's because the agency that is responsible is American, and it still exists.
Because otherwise, why would you not tell the truth?
ian crossland
I think that's why Lyndon Johnson wanted to shut it down, because it would have caused a civil war if they saw that our own agency, or the mafia, was involved with our own agency, or the Russians were involved with our own mafia.
clint russell
According to Roger Stone, Lyndon was in on it.
ian crossland
Lyndon was in on it?
clint russell
According to Stone?
Yeah.
tim pool
It's a plot where they go to him and they say, if this happens, are you game to take over?
ian crossland
Sometimes, but I don't think Bush was involved with 9-11.
He just looked like a pet.
Kinda, but they used him, and he bought the narrative and played along with it, but he thought it was real.
Like, I think Lyndon Johnson—but I do—maybe Lyndon Johnson knew more.
tim pool
I think you are completely wrong about 9-11, and you are conflating two totally different things.
ian crossland
Well, I don't always think the figurehead knows what's going on.
clint russell
Well, that's certainly true.
But I think in this instance, I'm going to rely on Roger Stone, who's done a lot of research in that arena.
I don't know.
I don't know for a fact, obviously.
I mean, this is what we're waiting for, is to know for a fact.
We need these documents to be declassified so we actually know what happened.
tim pool
Yeah, look, if someone asked me to put money on the table and your bet was CIA did it or, you know, official narrative, I'm going CIA did it every time.
Come on.
ian crossland
Maybe the mob, because the Kennedys were hard on the mob.
clint russell
Yeah, well, they probably worked in tandem.
tim pool
Yeah, I think that the easy bet is official narrative is false.
ian crossland
Of course.
Oh, yeah.
The Lee Harvey Oswald story is ridiculous.
The guy, his gun was in the same building as him after the shooting.
He was eating lunch.
clint russell
The single bullet theory is the biggest absurdity.
ian crossland
Like, dude, if he had done it, he wouldn't have been sitting in the building eating lunch afterwards.
He would have fled the scene.
It's such a ridiculous story.
tim pool
And then was it Jack Ruby?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
He dies right afterwards as well?
ian crossland
He took out Lee Harvey Oswald and then immediately gets killed?
tim pool
Yep.
Tying up loose ends, huh?
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
I mean, mafia maybe, you know?
hannah claire brimelow
Have you guys ever been to the Sixth Floor Museum in Dallas?
The museum dedicated to, you know, the assassination?
I find it really fascinating.
You can go there and you can look at, like, the spot on the ground where the bullet hit JFK, but really what's fascinating is that so many people go there and have questions and talk about it.
If you stand on the sidewalk outside where you can look at where the shot was, you can hear people talking about, like, oh, I don't think this really happened.
And so the fact that this is something that Trump wants to talk about at all, or that RFK potentially could be kind of leading narrative on, I think draws in a lot of voters who are not necessarily political, but do not trust our government.
I think a lot of people have lost faith in any form of government in this country.
Yeah, I know that.
But you are political.
Very much.
I mean, you're an active libertarian.
I think just run-of-the-day Americans who, you know, they might cast a ballot, they're maybe not consistent, but they look at their local, state, and federal government and say, you do not serve my interests, you serve your own interests.
I think the fact that there would be transparency on this front would be sort of… a way to connect with with this enchanted American. I think
clint russell
that's the thing that I like most about Kennedy is he has kind of the the childlike, I say this not
in a condescending or insulting way, but he has a childlike naivete that these institutions at
their core are intended to benefit the people and that they're capable of that and
they ought to.
And that I'm capable of remedying what ails these institutions.
It's like, I think he's out of his mind.
I don't think there's any chance you could actually reform the CIA or the FBI.
But I love the idea of a guy who's a true believer actually giving it a go.
I mean, that's way better than Pompeo or any of these other scumbags that are in positions of power.
Burns right now, it's like, these guys are super dangerous.
Burns was the ambassador to Russia.
When they were talking about the Maidan revolution, they were talking about how basically it's the reddest of red lines.
If you were to proceed with adding Ukraine into NATO, it'll basically force our hand.
And like, Burns was the American ambassador to Russia during that junction.
And then he goes on to become the CIA, despite the fact that we're now in a proxy war with Russia because those warnings were ignored.
It's just, it's crazy.
But anyways, that was a weird tangent.
I just wanted to say, I do like the idea that if we're not going to go full libertarian minarchism, I like the idea of having a true believer who's trying to actually really reform these institutions.
tim pool
All I can think about right now is getting drunk and celebrating and ordering a bunch of pizzas.
I don't.
I don't.
I'm just so excited.
I feel so optimistic.
The hope is through the roof.
Seeing all these clips that people are posting on X of RFK Jr.
walking out, this filled stadium arena.
RFK Jr.
standing there with Donald Trump and everything they're saying about the assassinations, I'm like, it's like the veil has been lifted.
Now we still have to win it, but today is a good day.
ian crossland
No time to celebrate.
It's like that's what the British did on Christmas Eve, right before George Washington sailed across the Delaware and slaughtered them all.
They all got drunk partying because they thought they had it in the bag.
clint russell
Oops.
ian crossland
Yeah.
clint russell
No, no, no.
I think the other interesting angle with this announcement from Trump is that he's gone out of his way to not badmouth the Secret Service, even though they failed in such an egregious fashion that he nearly lost his life.
And I can't decide if it's that he doesn't know what I know already about the details, because I've been researching this nonstop to actually figure out what transpired that day, or if he's afraid of them.
Or, if he's biding his time and he's being a tactician about this, realizing that he still has to rely on them to keep him alive, and he doesn't want to call them to the mat, while he's still relying on them for his own safety.
xaviaer durousseau
I think that's what it is.
Because it's like, that's a very dangerous position to be in.
It's like, these are the only people whose entire job is to protect you, and they're also the people who are in cahoots to try to kill you.
So he's kind of in this catch-22.
But I feel like once he gets in the office, maybe there's some way that he's able to clear that out, and get a whole new system in there?
clint russell
There has to be a way.
stand down or just DEI obliteration of their capacity.
I don't know.
I don't I don't I don't think it's what that's what it was.
I'm just saying that's like, that's the most benign answer.
And I also think it's the most absurd.
tim pool
There are pictures of crooks walking around with a long gun.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
That was a stand down order.
unidentified
Yep.
clint russell
I agree, because how do you not arrest that kid and question him?
It's an absurdity.
tim pool
There was a man walking around a Trump rally with a rifle.
End of story.
Sir, you can't have that here, okay?
Leave the rally.
This is the president we're talking about.
xaviaer durousseau
It's the video of him climbing on the roof for me because he's this 20 year old, unathletic, skinny, scrawny kid who can barely even hold this gun.
You see him dragging his body up on the roof.
There's people yelling like, he's on the roof, he's on the roof.
It's like, there's no way that Trump hasn't seen that.
There's no way that people in the Trump administration haven't seen that.
So he knows what's going on.
clint russell
There was breaking reports this morning that the Secret Service higher-ups had told lower-level Secret Service agents not to request additional security details.
Apparently, they only authorize—this is breaking news this morning, so I have not had a chance to verify it, but— Let's pull it up.
Okay, go for it.
tim pool
We got this from the Postmillennial.
Secret Service HQ told agents not to request more security for Butler Rally, where Trump was shot, according to a whistleblower.
Senator Josh Hawley released a letter Friday that revealed new whistleblower allegations.
The Secret Service headquarters had told agents in charge of the trip not to request more resources for the Butler PA Rally.
Due to security failures, would-be assassin Thomas Matthew Crooks was able to take shots at Donald Trump.
The more we learn about this, now HQ said don't request more security.
You line these pieces up, they won the lottery twice in a row.
I don't buy it.
clint russell
Yeah, well then add to it that Donald Trump, since he left the White House, had not had a counter-sniper team on his detail.
The first time they finally do it, and by the way, based off of these disclosures, it's also included that it was not until 24 hours prior to this event that they finally authorized a counter-sniper team to be on his detail.
And 24 hours later, a bullet grazes the right side of his head.
How is it even possible that that's coincidental?
ian crossland
Is it true that that counter-sniper team did not take the first shot in retaliation?
clint russell
They did not take the lethal shot, is my understanding, but I don't know for sure that that's been conclusively answered.
ian crossland
I heard today that five Secret Service agents resigned.
Were put on leave.
Were put on leave.
Is that because of this?
hannah claire brimelow
In connection to this, I mean, the head of the Secret Service right now is saying, well, we don't want to rush to any conclusions, which I know you're not rushing.
This has been over a month.
It's been six weeks, dude.
It's not no rush at all.
But, you know, I think something you were mentioning before is that Trump does go out of his way to praise Secret Service agents that he works with closely.
And the Trump family was doing this at the RNC as well.
I find it interesting because so much of what happened seems to be a difference between the Secret Service that's sort of headquartered in Washington operating and the agents that are actively with the Trump family.
I'm not saying that they couldn't all be working together or getting some kind of memo, but there seems to be obviously a divide in communication because one of the reports that came out was that, you know, Trump's team had no idea that there was an identified threat before they sent him out on stage.
You guys are at the same event.
How is this not communicated at all?
And it makes me think of kind of of Trump's history with staffing. He would back people that,
you know, I didn't think were good, I think a lot of people were critical of, but he kind of
stood by them. There is a loyalty streak to Donald Trump that I think sometimes might be misplaced.
clint russell
Yes, but I don't think that loyalty streak extends to him losing his life, and he almost did.
So I think he's I personally lean towards him him biding his time.
But I just want I want the you know, the listeners to remember that it was 4548 hours later, that the RNC goes off and you would have had a different nominee while the nation was in mourning, they would have clearly foisted Nikki Haley upon us while also painting
this absurd, contrived narrative that the Iranians were responsible for the attack on Donald
Trump.
And then, oh, what do you know?
We have two candidates that are perfect puppets that are both hawkish towards Iran, and now
we have our war that we've been waiting for for 20 years.
tim pool
I mean, the people who believe that Donald Trump staged the assassination blow my mind.
They think these are the what it wasn't Michael Malice was saying.
These are the people who are saying, why don't you just shoot the gun out of his hand when the cops are dealing with the guy?
That Donald Trump turned his head and got hit in the ear.
They genuinely believe either the person aimed for the ear or Trump hit a gel pack in his hat to fake it.
Why is his ear healed?
I mean, dude, it's like two weeks later.
His ear healed.
clint russell
What are you talking about?
In defense of the crazies, if there was a president I thought that could pull that off, it would be the guy who was in the WWE for years, because that's what wrestlers do.
They would cut themselves.
But look, I've watched the footage extensively.
Corey Comperatore clearly lost his life thanks to a headshot from lead that's moving extraordinarily fast.
So I think it's an absurdity to believe that that was a, you know, And I don't think Trump needed to.
hannah claire brimelow
He was already leading Biden.
Biden was in bad shape.
That's something you do if you're behind and you really need to search forward.
Trump doesn't need to risk his own life or stage an attempt on his own life.
ian crossland
Secret Service wouldn't have resigned if it was fake.
None of them would have resigned.
clint russell
And then consider the other angle of this.
If you're going to do that, that means that you've sold out.
Because if you remember, CNN and all these organizations that had never been covering Trump's rallies suddenly were all covering that rally?
tim pool
I don't know that's true.
clint russell
Based off of what I read it was, but I don't know.
tim pool
The day that happened, everybody was saying that, and I could not find any clips from CNN or other outlets that were live during the rally.
clint russell
It was live streaming on their website.
I don't know if it was on their channels.
tim pool
Maybe.
I couldn't find any videos for that.
clint russell
Really?
I could be wrong.
tim pool
I just said, OK, I need to verify this, and I was unable to confirm it.
So my position is I don't know that's true.
clint russell
That's fair.
Then I'll hold off on that.
tim pool
Because that implies foreknowledge.
clint russell
Well, exactly.
And that's what a lot of people were thinking, is that if this is a put on by Trump that Trump is in on, well, then you don't see this story buried over the next three weeks.
You see it upsold by the media because they have Apparently, you know, become an unlikely team.
I just think it's BS.
ian crossland
Yeah, I think even defending that narrative that it was fake is a mistake.
It's like defending that he pooped his pants.
clint russell
I was jokingly defending it, just to be clear.
ian crossland
But like, I don't even want to dame the conversation with respect because it's so asinine to consider that.
hannah claire brimelow
Xavier, do you have an opinion on Trump's assassination attempt and how it affected independent voters?
xaviaer durousseau
I think it woke a lot of people up to just how irrational and extreme our voting process, or just our election process has gotten.
Any sane person isn't wanting to see a presidential candidate get assassinated.
Like as much as I can't stand Kamala Harris, I would never wish that upon her.
So I do think it's swayed a lot more independent voters to...
Look deeper into, okay, what is actually happening here?
Why are they so desperate to take him out?
And what is it that they're so afraid of him doing that they're trying to do this for?
But I definitely think it was something that the secret service was in on.
I think that's pretty clear just based on the evidence that's going on.
But like you were saying, Ian, to say that it was, and I know you weren't saying it in a serious manner, but entertaining the idea that Trump was in on it, it's just not worth it.
What would he have benefited from that?
It would have—that so easily could have went the worst possible way.
So I don't think that there's any way that that would have benefited Trump.
clint russell
Then you also have to believe that Trump is okay with some of his most ardent supporters taking live fire directly behind him.
tim pool
It's an absurd— Of course these people think that, though.
unidentified
These Democrat voters— Well, because they think he's a monster, yeah.
tim pool
They live in TV world.
They think they're in a movie.
And Donald Trump is the supervillain.
Trump was already president for four years, and it was relatively mundane, except for COVID.
I mean, the problems of the Russia-Gates scandal, those Democrats who did that, Trump wouldn't do nothing.
Then the Ukraine-Gates scandal.
Once again, Democrats did that.
They live in this broken reality.
I don't know how these people break out of it.
That's why I'm so excited about the RFK Jr.
thing though, because that is a sledgehammer to the 1984 TV screen.
A sledgehammer to Big Brothers TV.
Because a lot of people are going to have to now reconcile, RFK Jr.
is saying these things?
That's tough.
I don't know, like you're saying, some people, like Ian was saying, the media got to him early to try and poison the well.
It's still a powerful force that's going to be hard for people's cognitive dissonance to reconcile.
RFK Jr.
says this is not the party of my family.
I can't support this.
And they're going to have to now contend with Is he a fascist too?
I don't know.
How?
ian crossland
Bobby should go on the podcast market hard now.
Now's the time to keep this message amplifying of why he's- I think we'll see a lot more of him for sure.
hannah claire brimelow
I think, you know, partially now because he is- A part of the Trump campaign in a way, and I think he does have an influence with a lot of people, but also because he said, I'm going to take my name off the state, off the ballot in swing states, but I'm staying on everywhere else.
Like he is actively still kind of on the campaign trail, which is a very interesting position to be in.
But I think Tim's right.
I think Democrats do live in TV world.
And you know, this is partially because they Bring out every celebrity they can during their convention.
But also, one of the people that made me laugh, I can't remember the actor's name, but he spoke on Night One, and he placed that terrible president on the show, Scandal.
Like, their best choices are just soap opera-like fake politicians, and I think that's really how they govern a lot of what they're doing.
It's all viewed through the lens of entertainment in Hollywood.
ian crossland
House of Cards, that was a show that got people primed to hate a corrupt president.
Marvel movies get the hero-villain narrative embedded in people's minds.
hannah claire brimelow
And then what did they do for Harris's campaign?
They were like, how can we allude to any popular pop singer right now, right?
Like, that is really their game plan, to make it seem like she's not just like this mysterious figure who suddenly popped up after kind of being semi-absent in the White House that she's got her name on for the last three years.
They're making it seem like she's your cool trendy aunt.
xaviaer durousseau
She's having a brat summer.
hannah claire brimelow
Uh-huh.
xaviaer durousseau
I think one of the other lessons that we learned from the assassination attempt is that left-wing and legacy media overall, to be honest, is not doing a good job of adapting to the fact that we are able to access information much faster than they can craft a narrative.
Because right after they tried to shoot Donald Trump, or literally shot him, you see all these headlines talking about it was glass, or something bounced up, or there was loud noise.
Like those fraudulent headlines that Really, someone in Gen Z, that was insulting to my intelligence.
You really think that you're just going to put a headline in front of me saying that there were loud noises?
Or I even saw one saying that Trump fell.
You're going to tell me that he fell?
I just looked on Twitter and saw all these videos of this man being shot and you're going to gaslight me and tell me that he fell?
They're not adapting well to that.
They can't control the way that we are perceiving information when we're able to access it now in real time.
tim pool
Here's another thing to add to RFK Jr.' 's endorsement.
is an open door now for a lot of people who can now feel safe to somewhat get behind Trump.
So there could be personalities who are not pro-Trump before who might be like, well, you know, I still have some deep concerns about him, but I, but I trust Bobby.
And so this opens a pathway now where he's bridged some of the more moderates who might've been scared to speak up, might actually speak up.
clint russell
Well, it puts me in that position where I, you know, I was, I was heavily concerned.
I talked to Ian about this regularly.
Like I thought that, that Well, I like Trump obviously better than Kamala.
I still thought that what Bobby brought to the table kind of broadening the Overton window on topics that I really care about.
I was like, I might just vote for this dude, even though I disagree with him on many things too, obviously.
But now he's off the table and it's like, all right, well, it's communism versus Trump.
It's not a real hard selection at that point.
tim pool
And if Trump brings RFK into his administration for Health and Human Services to address those issues, that's basically Trump saying, I might not admit it, but I'll put a guy you like in charge of it.
ian crossland
How about that?
What concerns me, I guess, a little bit is it's a lot of changes.
They're talking about doing a lot of changes right away.
clint russell
We need it.
ian crossland
We do need it, but can it happen?
clint russell
Well, I don't know, but not a lot changed during his first term, so I would like to see... He's only got one term left, right?
So, like, he's gonna have to move quick.
And, you know, move fast, break things, but yes, you should be able to fix a lot, too.
Bring in Vivek, bring in Elon Musk, bring in RFK Jr.
Use this tag team of, kind of, like, really independent-thinking, entrepreneurial-spirited, like, geniuses, and, like, let them run wild.
I don't see... Like, given how terrible the current paradigm is, I would gleefully accept that new paradigm.
ian crossland
That's true, because technocracy is super dangerous.
Getting people plugged into a machine where they can't get out, that's so dangerous.
We have to do radical change to subvert it.
clint russell
Yeah.
Well, and I mean, we're really dangerously close to a wider war, either with Iran or with Russia or with China or North Korea.
The list goes on and on.
tim pool
I want to pull up this tweet, because I was kind of talking about this.
This is from Colin Rugg.
He says, Justin, NFL quarterback Patrick Mahomes' wife releases a statement after liking one of Trump's Instagram posts.
Brittany Mahomes is under fire by leftists for liking Trump's platform on Instagram.
Brittany appears to now be defending her support for Trump, blasting the haters for not healing from issues they had from childhood.
Quote, to be a hater as an adult, you have to have some deep rooted issues you refuse to heal from childhood.
There's no reason your brain is fully developed and you hate to see others doing so well.
unidentified
Epic.
tim pool
So this is Britney's response.
She had liked Trump's 2024 GOP platform.
They're losing their minds.
Look at that.
Liked by Britney Lynn.
Bravo.
Now, this is, of course, pre, you know, before the RFK Jr.
endorsement, but this is what I'm talking about.
More people publicly endorsing Trump's positions.
And you know what?
I'm surprised.
A lot of people get attacked like this, and they apologize immediately.
Like, oh, no, my finger slipped on the button.
And she's like, shut up.
hannah claire brimelow
I really like that she has an apology for it, but she's actually, the media hates this girl.
She hangs out with Taylor Swift now because her husband and Travis Kelce are on the same football team, and everything she does they hate.
Everything she wears they hate.
And it makes me think, it kind of makes you tough enough to be like, well I'm not going to hide my politics then.
If you don't like me already I'm going to be honest with who I am.
tim pool
So wait, she hangs out with Taylor Swift?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
What if Taylor Swift is secretly based?
xaviaer durousseau
Wouldn't it shock me?
hannah claire brimelow
I'm just saying, you know?
Swiftie's for Trump, etc.
clint russell
What if Travis converted her?
She's a hardcore magic.
tim pool
I don't know, I think...
This is why I always tell people, like, stop attacking people who haven't... Even if Taylor Swift came out and she had those cookies or whatever for the Democrats or whatever, even if she made the endorsement, you don't insult, attack.
You persuade.
You say, like, I'm a big fan.
I wish you would sit down with us.
And you try to win them over.
You don't do what the left does and insult and attack people.
clint russell
I think going back to your point about why RFK Jr.
is such an interesting attack vector with this endorsement is exactly that, that these people that have not been woken up yet, they have been propagandized so aggressively that the Democrats are the defenders of democracy, that if you don't support them, then you're basically supporting fascism.
RFK Jr.
comes out and very eloquently states that, in fact, it's the complete It's a powerful, compelling argument that really dismantles the top narrative they've been running on, defending democracy.
Trump out of power—not Trump, but they did that to Trump too, but they
palace-cooed Biden out of power and then foisted Kamala Harris onto the
Democrat voters.
It's a powerful, compelling argument that really dismantles the top
narrative they've been running on, defending democracy.
You guys don't believe in it.
tim pool
I think people need to realize, too, that there are still middle-of-the-road
people who are not deeply indoctrinated that can be exposed to the truth.
If they're surrounded by the right people, we can spread this message.
RFK makes a big move in that direction.
So we have to try and be as persuasive as we can to as many people as possible.
That being said, we also need to be wary that there are evil people who will seek to exploit you and lie to you.
These political pundits online who you know, they know the truth already, but say the opposite.
ian crossland
Regarding, like, political moderates, that's young people in general.
Like, all the people that are young have not yet been indoctrinated.
They have not chosen their path.
And that's constant.
Forever, there will always be new people that are ready to learn.
So that's people like Bobby teaching them.
tim pool
I gotta read this super chat from Space Is Cool Man.
It's too perfect.
It says, Brat Summer, Nuclear Winter.
That is a good anti-Kamala slogan right there.
unidentified
Oh, it is.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, Kamala Harris is not the person we want negotiating anything, right?
Like, I get it.
Biden administration brought her out to represent some sort of diversity role and to, you know, wave and dance when need be.
But they didn't even trust her with anything.
They made her the border czar and then sort of shunted her to the side.
Like, no one wants Kamala Harris representing them, including Democrats.
That's why they didn't pick her the first chance they had.
ian crossland
For all the gamers out there, I would give Kamala a 14 charisma, if you play D&D, with zero persuasion, and maybe like two points in intimidation.
tim pool
14 charisma?
ian crossland
She has charisma enough to be a politician, yeah.
No, she- Yeah, she- Bro.
You see all those people screaming and dancing for her.
hannah claire brimelow
That's why she's done so many interviews.
tim pool
That's not her, that's- that's the- everyone else at the event, and it's commercial.
ian crossland
Like, she's pretty enough to have charisma, it helps her charisma, so like, 14- If she had charisma, why is she not doing interviews?
Because she has no persuasion skill, she has very low intimidation skill.
She's not a good speaker.
tim pool
Michael Malice exemplified this so well at the end of yesterday's episode as to why he doesn't want to listen to Kamala Harris.
And he was like, because I can say something sincere like me saying, oh, I'm really excited to listen to you guys on the Members Only show.
I think it's gonna be good fun.
And if Kamala Harris has it, it's, I'm so excited to hear you on the Members Only show.
Like, that's not, she lacks charisma.
Now, I wouldn't give her zero.
ian crossland
No, yeah, she gets a bonus to her charisma.
tim pool
Seven or eight?
ian crossland
I don't think so.
Willie Brown thought she was hot.
tim pool
Oh, come on.
ian crossland
I think she gets a bonus plus two to her charisma, but the thing is, I think Michael doesn't want to listen to her because if you listen to an evil person with charisma, you can get indoctrinated into their evil ways.
No, he's not good at it.
She has no persuasion.
She has zero in persuasion.
She has no persuasion skill, which gives you bonus on top of, and she has some intimidation skill.
She'll be like, you want Trump to win?
And you're like, oh, well, no.
No, my lady, no.
But she just has like 12 intelligence, 11 intelligence maybe.
tim pool
I disagree, Ian.
If this was true, they'd put her on TV more.
ian crossland
Well, Trump's got like 18 charisma with like 16 points in persuasion.
He's super charismatic and persuasive, but she has like no persuasion ability.
Moderately okay.
tim pool
She inspires no one.
Charisma.
Someone who inspires people.
But she inspires no one.
That's why they won't put her on TV and she won't do interviews.
I feel like she only inspires people who... That's commercials promoting the DNC and those are delegates who are brought in.
That's like saying, does the cult leader have to be charismatic to his zealots?
Not if the leader's installed by commercials and television.
The reason they won't have her do interviews is because she does not have charisma.
ian crossland
There's no intelligence.
That's the reason she doesn't do the interviews.
clint russell
She can't speak extemporaneously.
She's incapable of doing it.
And honestly, I think her blood alcohol content has been higher consistently over the past three years than she polled in 2020.
I'm being totally honest, too.
ian crossland
I genuinely believe that.
tim pool
Okay, no, she would be dead.
clint russell
No, well, oh yeah, sorry, you have to do the point.
Yeah, but I think, like, she pulled it 2%.
I think she's rocking point two.
tim pool
Decimal command.
clint russell
Yes, if you swing the decimal one.
unidentified
I was like, dude, 29% blood alcohol content is not something you survive.
clint russell
You're right about that, yeah.
ian crossland
Is that true that she has a drinking problem?
clint russell
How could I know?
ian crossland
Okay, but people have been suggesting it online, I've been seeing, is it just bloodshot eyes or something?
clint russell
Look, I've partied enough in my day to recognize when someone's a couple of glasses of wine deep, she seems like she's consistently that.
Or, it's pills.
Or, worst case scenario, she's an imbecile.
I don't know which.
Combine all three, she still shouldn't be elected.
ian crossland
Yeah, I don't... what were you gonna say?
xaviaer durousseau
Well, I was gonna go back first.
Kamala Harris is only persuasive to people who have not paid attention in the last three and a half years, and to people who don't know anything about politics.
Because when I was watching her speech last night, if I was just stepping back objectively, and I didn't know anything about her, I'd be like, okay, like, She's got some charisma because she's decent when she's in front of a teleprompter.
She's not good at speaking off the cuff.
She's not good at answering questions.
So that's why she's not going to do interviews.
It said it was easier for her to do the meme approach, like the whole Bratz summer thing.
Like that was a desperate way of trying to win over Gen Z. Because the thing is, is Gen Z is like the first generation that has grown up knowing to not trust the media.
Because other generations, it took them quite a few years of being lied to, to finally recognize that if it's on legacy media, there's a good chance that it's a blatant lie.
clint russell
Her acceptance speech was probably, at most, a quarter of RFK's speech today.
And it seemed to me that he was ad-libbing much of that.
xaviaer durousseau
Half of it was her saying thank you?
clint russell
Three to four minutes of it, it felt like it was applause lines just in the beginning.
And then she spends 10 minutes talking about her heritage and just trying desperately to
convince the American people that she is in fact African-American.
I don't know why that's such an important point to make.
And then relatable.
And then she's a prosecutor.
And you know, it's like there was so little vision for what she actually wants to deliver
to the country.
And when she finally got to it, it was just purely a funhouse, you know, mirror image
of the inverse of Donald Trump.
It's like everything that you have to say is just counter him and your vision of him
is contrived.
It's not actually grounded in reality.
It's a straw man.
So if it works on anybody, I don't understand how.
ian crossland
It's the smiling and laughing.
They do a lot of smiling and laughing at that DNC, which is really disturbing.
Like the economy is not in a good place.
It's not time to laugh and smile, guys.
Like get serious.
clint russell
Just severe inflation, $35 trillion in debt, $1 trillion in annual interest payments alone,
multiple proxy wars.
ian crossland
They do that evangelism.
clint russell
Let's all laugh and drink.
ian crossland
They keep doing this Michelle Obama thing.
They talking like this when they're talking.
It's like, who the hell just talked normal?
xaviaer durousseau
Oh, AOC does it.
tim pool
I agree.
xaviaer durousseau
It's the worst when AOC does it.
She really gets into it like this.
hannah claire brimelow
Some good hand gestures.
She's really a female politician, top politician.
Trump spoke for almost two hours at the RNC, right?
unidentified
Yep.
hannah claire brimelow
Kamala Harris barely ordered Taco Bell.
I mean, it is crazy to me that this is their candidate.
She has this big moment.
She's primed for it.
And I honestly think Joe Biden would have spoken for longer.
And that's amazing because every speech he gave got shorter and shorter.
clint russell
I'm sure all of us at this table have said this at some point.
The more she talks, the more she loses.
And they know this, and it couldn't be more obvious.
I would not be surprised if they told who, I don't know if they have applause signs in the amphitheater or if they just told people like higher ups or people in control of each section.
Look, we are going to give her the longest applause break in human history, just as she takes the stage, because we only have her plan to talk for 15 minutes.
We want three minutes that to be applause.
And then every time she says anything remotely good, we want another standing ovation by us 20 more seconds.
I mean, I bet if you counted it, she said like maybe a thousand words.
It was embarrassing.
ian crossland
They bounced those signs up and down.
Right, right, right.
Like the people hyped or something.
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
It was like a hype fest.
To make it look really busy and full.
xaviaer durousseau
200 of those words were thank you.
I just really want to hone in on that.
If you watched the beginning of her speech, it was thank you, thank you, thank you.
She went on with that for a solid two minutes.
And part of the breaks too, I keep saying this, Kamala Harris has social anxiety.
I know a nervous laugh when I hear one.
And I'm sure you guys heard about the rapid turnover she was having with her staff.
Well, if you listen to what a lot of her staff members said, is that every time that there was a big event or somewhere that she had to show up for, she would make her staff pretty much do like a rehearsal of like, let's say I was walking into this room and she would have her staff sit in all the seats that you guys would so that she could just pretend on how she would have conversations with these different people.
She has no confidence in herself.
She's an extremely insecure yet dangerously ambitious politician who keeps getting put into these positions to let other people do the work.
She's just the face.
She doesn't want to be anything beyond that.
clint russell
We were watching her speech.
We were doing a simulcast on InfoWars with Roger Stone, myself, Luke, and Alex Jones.
And Alex is just like, during that applause break, he just goes, you ever going to talk?
I thought he was going to have a total mental breakdown.
It was hysterical.
tim pool
Let's jump to this debate.
We got this tweet.
It's going viral.
It's a clip from the DNC of Tim Waltz pulling on his son's arm.
And a lot of people are suggesting it shows that he's an abusive parent, but others suggest he's just trying to pull his son away from a teleprompter from bumping into it.
Here's the clip.
You can see right there he yanks him.
That's it.
And, uh, it rewinds.
I don't know who made this, but everyone's sharing it.
He pulls him pretty hard, and then you look at his face, and a lot of people have said he's got a grimace on his face, he looks frustrated, he's pulling his son, his son's got a mental, uh, that face he makes.
His son's got a learning disability of some sort.
And so, this is following on.
This story where Gus Waltz cried when his dad said that he loved him, and we'll play the clip for you.
Okay, so they're just doing stupid music, is that it?
clint russell
I thought this was a sweet moment, honestly.
tim pool
Yeah, when I saw this clip going around, you have Gus Waltz crying when his dad calls him out and says, I love you.
And so I talked about it on my morning show, and I said, it's actually one of the most heartwarming things, you know, this kid sees his dad's up on stage, and he says, that's my son, I love him, and he's crying.
My only thing was, I started laughing, like, your dad's lying about everything up there, lying about IVF and all this stuff, trying to make people think that his family got IVF when they did not, because it's political.
But I'm not going to rag on the kid for this.
However, however, In this debate, when people show Tim Waltz yanking his son and having that look on his face that some have suggested is a look of frustration, others have said he's just pulling him away from the teleprompter.
I don't buy that.
He's not going to trip into the teleprompter.
He's walking right past it.
The pull of his arm doesn't do anything to pull him away from the teleprompter.
ian crossland
He might be eight feet away from that thing, too.
unidentified
Well, no.
No, no.
ian crossland
They're walking through it.
tim pool
She walks in front of it.
But either way, look at the direction Gus is walking.
ian crossland
He's ducking under it, maybe, right there.
tim pool
He pulls him hard so he doesn't hit it.
Yeah, he doesn't need to be pulled.
So, regardless of what you think, the argument, the debate is this.
The reason why Gus Waltz started crying when his dad said he loved him is because they believe, people are arguing, this is a sign of abuse.
A kid who grew up with a learning disability from parents who are frustrated having to deal with him, I got to imagine, or I said I could imagine, I'm not trying to take sides on this debate, but you got a kid with a learning disability and the parents are like, stop, it's like this, stop doing this, stop!
Why won't you listen?
Why can't you learn?
And so, people are suggesting the reason he cried... Now, let me say this first.
There were several conservatives who mocked Gus for crying this way.
A little over the top there, eh, son?
A little weird?
Some people are like, why is he crying so heavily?
And then other people pointed out, when you see this clip...
Maybe it's because his dad never said he loved him.
And here he is at this political rally saying, that's my son and I love him.
And the kid, it's the first time he's heard that from his dad.
Or he rarely hears it from his dad.
And his dad's kind of mean to him.
And so he takes it.
He stands up and he claps and cries.
ian crossland
I wouldn't be surprised to find out that the guy, and I'm talking about Tim Waltz, who puts on these over-the-top smiles is actually a jerk behind the scenes.
I wouldn't be surprised to find that out.
I can't make any claims and I won't.
tim pool
I can understand this argument.
Because when I saw him crying and clapping and pointing, saying, that's my dad, I laughed and I'm like, all right, you know, but I'm not gonna get mad at a kid for cheering for his dad.
That being said, wouldn't we assume 99% of people would stand up and wave when his dad was like, that's my son, I love him.
They go, yes, thank you, thank you.
xaviaer durousseau
I would have cried too.
tim pool
If your dad cheered for you.
xaviaer durousseau
That's like a very touching moment, I feel like.
Also, I want to know how severe is his learning disability?
Isn't he like nonverbal?
Like, isn't it to that level?
hannah claire brimelow
He has a nonverbal learning disability, which impacts his ability to learn and communicate, but it doesn't, like, he, he can talk.
It's not like he's, from what I read about it, and obviously, like, they haven't given us a very specific diagnosis other than, like, very intense ADHD and a nonverbal learning disability.
clint russell
I mean, if I was 17 and my dad was, you know, giving his acceptance speech to be the Vice President of the United States, and he talked very glowingly about how much he loved his family and me, I would probably react.
I wouldn't react like that.
xaviaer durousseau
I wouldn't ugly cry.
clint russell
I wouldn't have ugly cried, but there's no doubt I would tear.
hannah claire brimelow
Nice masculine tear down the cheek.
tim pool
It's just me, I wouldn't.
I'd stand up and I'd smile and I'd wave and I'd be like, thanks dad.
xaviaer durousseau
You're built different.
tim pool
Maybe.
clint russell
Maybe I'm Chicago.
xaviaer durousseau
But you were there longer than me.
unidentified
Sure.
clint russell
I'm from SoCal.
tim pool
I'm not suggesting that nobody would have an emotional reaction.
The argument other people are making, and maybe it's just a kid who loves his dad.
I don't know.
I thought it was actually heartwarming to see this kid clap for his dad.
He's proud of his dad.
His dad's saying he loves him.
clint russell
Well, especially if he has special needs, it makes sense that he would kind of have an over-stimulated reaction.
xaviaer durousseau
That poll doesn't even seem that aggressive for people to be coming up with these massive conspiracies about what's happening.
To me, that just looks like, come on, hurry up.
We have limited time.
They're going to go to commercial.
That's what it's giving to me.
ian crossland
Yeah.
xaviaer durousseau
But also, I really don't want to talk about what politicians are doing, or like, their relationship with their kids, unless we're talking about Ashley Biden's diary, because we still don't have the clarity on that that we deserve.
hannah claire brimelow
And she introduced Biden on the first day.
tim pool
Sorry, sorry, go ahead.
hannah claire brimelow
I was gonna say, like...
Before, so in 2020, they just brought out every single granddaughter they could.
No grandsons, just granddaughters.
And this time they're bringing out Ashley because they can't bring out Hunter, right?
I mean, I really wonder what would have happened if, you know, you know, Beau Biden hadn't gotten his, you know, terminal cancer diagnosis.
I think they wouldn't lean so heavily on these ne'er-do-well children.
tim pool
And what's with Ashley Biden's accent?
Did you guys catch that?
ian crossland
I didn't see it.
tim pool
She had a weird accent.
Let's see if I can find a video.
unidentified
a clip right now. You didn't watch it? I think I did if she was there. Yeah, she has. She
hannah claire brimelow
introed Biden. Wow. And he was like, that's my daughter. I know it is. I think we all
tim pool
thought about the daughter. Let's see if I can find a video.
unidentified
I don't know if I know.
tim pool
They're all interviews. Let's see.
Yeah, she had like a weird accent.
And I tweeted, I was like, this is weird.
Why is she talking like that?
unidentified
I'll say that, you know, my initial... I think I, this might be it.
clint russell
That's it.
unidentified
The Violence Against Women Act.
clint russell
I don't hear an accent there, do you?
unidentified
You just gotta, you gotta... A little bit more?
Dad was always there, doing everything he could to be a true partner to her.
Dad, you always tell us, but we don't tell you enough, that you are the love of our lives
and the life of our love.
I thought that I would be a mess, but he was the one crying, and I was the one who had
to comfort him.
tim pool
You don't hear it?
xaviaer durousseau
I hear it.
unidentified
It sounds like English is her second language.
tim pool
To me, it sounds like English is her second language, but she learned English when she was 11.
Or 12.
Really?
hannah claire brimelow
I don't hear anything that intense.
unidentified
She sounds like a little flurry to me, but that's it.
clint russell
She sounds a little like XY Chromosome, a little bassy.
tim pool
She's got like an Eastern European pole, slightly.
unidentified
In the way that she talks, there's a weird kind of thing there.
clint russell
You have a more finely tuned ear for these things.
To me, it sounded like the American aristocrats.
They have a little bit more of a bougie tone to them, so that's all I caught.
xaviaer durousseau
Isn't it called like a transatlantic accent?
clint russell
Like the JFK's, they were famous for that.
hannah claire brimelow
There are coastal cities on the east coast that actually do have very unique accents, especially because they've done a lot of mobility.
clint russell
He's what, Delaware?
hannah claire brimelow
He's Delaware.
clint russell
So maybe they have a little accent, I don't know.
unidentified
Dad knows that family is everything.
ian crossland
Knows.
clint russell
He taught me about it in the shower.
unidentified
My brother and I lost our brother Bo to cancer in 2015.
tim pool
She's reading, too, I think.
unidentified
Maybe I'm wrong.
tim pool
Maybe she just had a speech impediment that she overcame, so it lingers?
is a young child. So I know a lot of people who English is a second language and they
have some kind of sometimes will make weird inflections. It sounds like she's trying.
Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe she just had a speech impediment that she overcame. So it lingers.
hannah claire brimelow
He inherited the Biden family stutter.
ian crossland
Exactly as possible.
tim pool
You know, I mean, I got this one friend who is from Poland, and then he learned English, a second language, when he was like a young kid, and so he's constantly making up words.
ian crossland
I bet he sounds like a total idiot.
clint russell
I bet he's a real scumbag, and every time he guest hosts on this show, he never brings up the fact that he co-hosts it with Clint.
hannah claire brimelow
Luke!
You scumbag, you!
unidentified
He probably just pimps himself out and gives no love to his co-host.
clint russell
He's gonna love that.
tim pool
This is the point that I'm making.
I'm not saying that she's got a thick European accent.
clint russell
No, I know.
tim pool
I'm saying that I listened to her speak and I was like, huh?
ian crossland
My bets are on that she's reading off a teleprompter.
That's not North American dialect.
unidentified
But why is she doing this thing where her talk is like this?
hannah claire brimelow
It might be that she's not comfortable.
Like Ian's right, if she's reading off a teleprompter and she's not, I mean, she doesn't really give that many public addresses.
clint russell
She might just not be I think she was just trying to put the diary rumors to bed.
That's my guess.
Probably not.
xaviaer durousseau
Take it to bed instead of the shower?
clint russell
To the bed, yeah.
I don't even want to make those jokes.
It's really bad.
She's an adult woman now, but making those jokes about, you know...
unidentified
Well, it's sad.
hannah claire brimelow
Similarly, the Tim Walz thing, like, abuse allegations are serious, right?
Like, they're not something we should take lightly because so many children suffer at the hands of people who are in charge of their lives, you know, their caregivers.
But it is becoming more common to look at these families and be like, there's something weird going on here.
And unfortunately, the diary is one of those things that people felt like Biden was a weird guy.
And then when you get this diary that she has now confirmed was hers, like, it just makes people think, like, what are you actually selling to the American public?
tim pool
And what was Joe doing to that dog in the shower?
There was a dog in there?
When he broke his leg.
He said that, what was it, like he was getting out of the shower and the dog did something?
clint russell
Oh, I forgot about that.
ian crossland
He reached out and pulled its tail or something?
tim pool
Yeah, he reached out and pulled the dog's tail while he was in the shower and slipped.
clint russell
Dude, he's a weird dude.
unidentified
My guess is he blamed the dog, but the dude just slipped.
xaviaer durousseau
I don't know.
tim pool
That's what it was.
He was in the shower.
ian crossland
I think he wanted to pull its tail.
The story is he pulled the dog's tail.
I could be wrong about that.
tim pool
And he was in the shower and pulled the dog's tail.
ian crossland
He was getting out and he pulled the dog's tail and he slipped.
tim pool
Why is the dog in the bathroom?
xaviaer durousseau
I don't know.
I feel like that's pretty common.
unidentified
Is it Commander?
tim pool
It's common to put your dog in the bathroom when you're taking a shower?
xaviaer durousseau
No, the dogs will enter the bathroom.
Yeah, they won't.
You leave the door open.
ian crossland
Nervous energy.
hannah claire brimelow
Or they sit outside and cry.
ian crossland
What do they call that?
Abandonment issues or whatever.
When they think you're gone, they want to be near you.
xaviaer durousseau
Right.
tim pool
Okay, so the dog comes into Joe's... So Joe's taking a shower, and it's probably in his bathroom.
ian crossland
With the door cracked open, yeah.
tim pool
Dog walks in, and then he reaches for the towel.
The dog turns around, and he grabs its tail.
ian crossland
I thought he grabbed it on purpose, just to play with the dog.
tim pool
I have no idea, man.
Look.
ian crossland
My question, do you think that Tim Waltz, was that a sign of abuse?
Did you get that vibe?
hannah claire brimelow
It's so hard to tell off of that.
And again, like, I just think making abuse allegations is so serious that you have to be really careful about it.
It's obviously, it doesn't seem like he trusts his son to navigate the stage and, you know, But there may be a reason for that.
Maybe there's a reason for that.
We don't know.
clint russell
Let me just say real quick.
I first saw this and I immediately quote tweeted it and I was like, I just obliterated the dude.
And then someone in my replies goes, well, look at where the teleprompter is.
And I hadn't even seen the teleprompter before.
So then I went back and I watched it very closely, like this is a pruder film.
I was like rewinding it back and forth, trying to figure out what I had actually witnessed.
And I concluded that I'm not sure, but I'm going to try and give the benefit of the doubt because I feel like the Democrats would, you know, paint Trump as the worst things imaginable if something like that were to
happen. And well I think that his policies are atrocious and that we ought to be condemning
him for that. Unless we actually have definitive evidence that he's abusing his kid, let's not go
hannah claire brimelow
there. Well and I thought Seamus of Freedom Tunes had a really good tweet about this where he
was like, you know, I should pull it up and quote it better. I'm not going to do justice to his dandy
ian crossland
little buddy. Just abuse it.
He deserves it.
hannah claire brimelow
But he said something to the effect of like, oh yes, making fun of a vice president's child is a new low for Republicans, but it's an old low for Democrats.
And then he had this screenshot of I think a HuffPost article where they point out that when Sarah Palin was nominated to be the VP, there was a Family Guy episode making fun of the fact that she had a kid with Down syndrome.
And so it's actually like this moral high ground that someone is pulling out right now.
I think, you know, we could all be better to the children of politicians who don't opt to be in the spotlight, right?
Well, mine are children of politicians.
I remember this was Barron, who was 12 at the time, and I remember being in a corporate office that I worked for, and they were like, can we make fun of him?
He's like 17, right?
And it turned out he's just already at that age.
He looked tall for his age.
clint russell
He was already 6'1".
hannah claire brimelow
Right, right, right.
He was already storming over the White House.
But I think if we want to be a decent society, we have to think critically about the things that we're saying, especially about minors.
clint russell
Exactly.
And I wonder if Baron has some capacity to convert the hate he's received into HGH.
hannah claire brimelow
That's why he's so tall.
clint russell
Yeah, I think he's like 8'4", just based off of the hate.
Ian, you're a scientist.
ian crossland
Jordan Peterson was just talking about anger with Theo Vaughn.
It was like eight months ago when I was watching the interview last night and about how powerful and useful anger can be if you get it behind you, like, get thee behind me, Satan, and how you can use that to propel you up.
clint russell
Drive you, yeah.
ian crossland
So maybe he's done that.
hannah claire brimelow
I always thought he was tall because Melania put, I think it was either caviar or like gold bar cream on him as a baby, some like crazy expensive moisturizer.
And she was like, for my precious baby, which I think is like the most Melania Trump thing ever of all time.
clint russell
That's the most Trump thing ever to bathe your infant in caviar.
Get out of here.
hannah claire brimelow
And that's why he is as beautiful and tall as Trump always says he is.
clint russell
Does anybody know how tall he actually is?
Because he looks as if he's seven feet tall.
hannah claire brimelow
I think Trump said he was 6'7".
unidentified
6'7", okay.
clint russell
He looks taller than that because Trump's like 6'3", and he towers over Trump.
tim pool
He grows like three inches every month.
clint russell
That's what it looks like.
tim pool
Yeah, he's like 12 feet by now.
hannah claire brimelow
And guys can grow until they're like 21, I think.
I mean, a lot of men hit puberty, puberty ends or the growth spurt ends when they're in early college.
He could be, you know, 7'1", by the end of next year.
tim pool
It'd be funny if Barron Trump, to everyone's surprise, has nothing to do with politics at all, totally bows out and goes pro in the NBA.
clint russell
That'd be so hard.
tim pool
That'd be so funny.
There's a funny chart showing the percentage likelihood of being in the NBA as your height goes up.
And so people who are, you know, like seven feet tall have like a 17% chance of being in the NBA.
ian crossland
I think he never, I think he doesn't play ball.
He doesn't play basketball.
Trump wanted him to, but he plays golf and soccer, soccer.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
I would be amazing.
You know, they haven't said officially where, where Barron's going to college.
clint russell
What if he is about to be on like some crazy, like, like University of Kentucky basketball Nephilim don't have good ball handling skills, so I don't think he's... Doesn't matter.
tim pool
Because they're just closer to the net, that's why.
That's true.
clint russell
You don't really have to dribble when you're center, so... There you go.
ian crossland
Well, I'm trying to get his official height.
xaviaer durousseau
I'll say I think going back where you're saying earlier about like the moral high ground of like saying like it's both sides are making fun of the other sides like kids and the kids of VPs it reminds me of there was the debate after Trump got shot because so many people were online like making fun of the fact that he got shot like I even saw people in my own family because a large portion of my family's radical left Saying how they wish the shooter was black because then they wouldn't have missed.
And I was repulsed by that, obviously, but then I start seeing people pull up screenshots of talking about when everything happened with Nancy Pelosi's husband or talking about when Democrats were dying after getting the vaccine and people were celebrating on the right.
So that is one of those things when it comes to just being a moral, decent person.
I think we all kind of need to do a better job on that.
And rather than pointing the finger like, Oh, well, why are you making fun of us now?
And then it just this back and forth, it just won't end.
clint russell
Yeah, just to be clear, when I was concerned about Mr. Wall's son there, I was not in any way demonizing his kid.
I was concerned about him and his treatment of his son.
I think that's more fair game.
If I thought there was actually valid concerns that Donald Trump was abusing his kid, I'd be like, all right, yeah, that's probably a fair conversation to be had.
hannah claire brimelow
Which is why I think the conversation about adult Ashley Biden's diary is so different than a lot of these things.
And I mean, I think one of the challenges with, you know, sudden new public figures is, you know, Walz deserves probably a lot of criticism.
I think he is obviously a liar.
I think he's proven that very quickly.
I think he was not a good governor.
I think that there are all kinds of issues with his policy.
I think that he, you know, pretended to be center and has obviously moved very progressively.
That's a danger to the country.
It's hard to say what that looks like in the home life.
And I think especially in this case, you know, they're all going to be under very intense scrutiny and we just can't make a definitive statement based off one moment.
ian crossland
What about J.D.
Vance?
Is he a liar?
clint russell
Is there an example?
ian crossland
I just wonder.
He's new in the spotlight.
I just want to criticize both sides equally if there's a reason to.
I don't know anything about him.
clint russell
If you could present me an example of him lying, I haven't seen it.
hannah claire brimelow
That's the thing, like, the wall stuff surfaced so quickly.
I think people criticize J.D.
Vance for being a former never-Trumper, but, you know, I said this however many weeks ago when they announced that he was the VP.
I actually like the redemption arc, the idea that you would have someone who was like, yeah, I really didn't like Trump and I watched things go well and so I changed my mind and I'm in this position now.
I think it's better to have someone who is open and honest about converting.
clint russell
At least he acknowledges the evolution as opposed to the corporate media who lies to you for A year plus, maybe three years straight, that Joe Biden is right as rain.
And then overnight, they all just flip the script and they tell the truth.
And they don't make any concessions, but J.D.
Vance can't have a change of heart.
They can all lie for us.
tim pool
They act surprised.
I can't believe it.
Can you believe what we're seeing here in this debate?
Oh, heavens, they tricked us.
ian crossland
What happened?
hannah claire brimelow
Well, Tim Murtaugh, who's back on the Trump campaign, he was a 2020 communications director, he had this column up that was like, any journalist that acts surprised lied to you and they should immediately leave the profession.
clint russell
I agree.
hannah claire brimelow
They did something wrong.
They lied.
They lied.
And if they didn't realize that they're bad at their job, and if they knew the whole time, which we know they all did, because everyone on the right knew about it, I don't understand how it could be so obvious to one side and not the other.
clint russell
These people function strictly off of a narrative frame set by their corporate media masters.
But what's weird is that the corporate media themselves, some of them I do think actually buy into it.
They're so deep in the Kool-Aid that they forget that they're actually just propagandists and they start to actually think they're telling the truth.
It's weird to watch.
hannah claire brimelow
And I think they think they're doing a service.
Like, I don't know if you feel this way because, you know, you've come from a different background, but I think a lot of young journalists will say, like, saying these things is good.
I'm helping the greater good when I say these things, even though the things that they're presenting are inherently false or they're not doing enough to fact check them.
clint russell
Well, when you portray your opposition as the epitome of evil, which is what they've done with Donald Trump, well, then certainly your The limit of response that you can set for yourself obviously increases because you are up against abject evil.
It's like if I was in a, you know, facing a communist takeover, like, yeah, I'm going to probably turn down my morality meter because I have to survive.
You know, we're in war now.
I have to survive.
So I think they've done it to themselves, but the weird thing is that it's contrived.
He's not actually that threat that they believe him to be.
ian crossland
Yeah, man, it's the danger of, like, if there's a fire out of control, a wildfire, they'll do a controlled burn to prevent the wildfire from continuing.
If they think Trump is a wildfire, they think that controlling a burn is legit, is, like, ethical, when in reality, like, what do you—if there's no actual— Unfortunately, they stopped doing the— I thought you guys were right about not going hard on the family of politicians and just maybe not going hard on people.
Because I think what's happening is a lot of people that are outside the system are wondering, like, who am I going to support in 2028 when I can finally vote?
They're looking at, like, who are the good guys right now?
Not who are right.
They're looking at who are the good people morally.
clint russell
Yes.
Well, that's been my litmus test for a very long time.
This is why, despite my differences of opinion with RFK Jr., I was seriously considering voting for the guy, because he strikes me as sincere and honorable, and it's just something you don't see in American politics hardly ever.
tim pool
I want to bring up this debate again.
We had this debate on the Culture War podcast, so we'll just do this before we go to Super Chats.
I tweeted this.
If Trump promised to cut all funding to Ukraine and Israel and foreign interventions, but he would use the money to pay reparations to descendants of slaves, would you support this?
As of right now, with 105,000 votes, 57.2% said fund war and no reparations.
42.8% said pay reparations and war.
My position is, if this was the only choice, I'd go for pay reparations and the war.
war. My position is if this was the only choice, I'd go for a pair of operations and end the
war. What do you guys think?
ian crossland
End the war and yeah, whatever.
End the war and burn the money.
I don't care.
End the war.
tim pool
Burn the money.
clint russell
Not surprising.
tim pool
That's a good point.
clint russell
Ian and I are—yeah, I mean, no, I would rather it go to minorities, or really what I would like to see, as I said before the show, I would love for it to go to victims of the lockdown era.
Yeah.
Those are the people that you don't have to worry about generational gap and proving lineage to see if you're, you know, descendant of slavery.
Like, no, we were actually abused and our civil liberties were violated and we lost trillions of dollars.
Yeah, that would be more fair.
But the problem is, is that it would come from us.
ian crossland
To answer your question, honestly, is I would choose pay reparations and war.
That is what I would choose.
I'm shocked that that many people didn't choose that.
tim pool
There are, of course, a lot of people saying neither, neither, neither, right?
The purpose of the hypothetical is to gauge what you think is a greater priority.
Obviously, everyone's response is, we shouldn't do either.
clint russell
Yeah, this is the Michael Malice test, these people.
tim pool
Yeah.
It's a question of what you think is a greater priority.
And so the reason why this question comes up is because you have this debate over reparations, but then how can we even be having that debate when $200 billion goes to Ukraine?
For what?
So they can invade Russia and push us to the brink of World War III?
ian crossland
To authorize another $100 million or something?
tim pool
It's ridiculous!
It's insane!
clint russell
They just keep finding more money without congressional authorization too, which is also bizarre.
But yeah, I mean, look.
I think even Dave Smith would agree with this.
Like, if you're going to be burning money and printing and borrowing and taxing us into oblivion, yeah, I would rather you be spending it on anything other than killing people, you know?
Like, I think that's totally fair.
Even libertarians who absolutely hate everything the government does, we still all would, for the most part, agree.
End the war, pay the reparations, whatever.
tim pool
The extremely simple take on this is, if Donald Trump were to come out and say, hey everybody, a populist who wants to see an end to the war, you'll win, and there's a way we're going to... He's like, if I win the presidency, I end these wars, I bring our troops home, I get peace deals, how do we guarantee that I win?
Whatever that money was, it's going to go for reparations.
Now everyone who wants reparations, you can vote for me too.
clint russell
Interesting.
xaviaer durousseau
I mean, I hate both options, obviously.
But if I had to choose between the two, unfortunately, I would probably choose to fund the war only because Israel's in there too.
Ukraine, I don't feel like we should be sending any money to Ukraine.
Israel, I feel like we have sent an excessive amount.
But even if we stopped funding them, that's not going to end the war in Israel.
With Ukraine, if we stop funding it, I do think that would simmer out.
But with Israel, it's going to keep going.
And then if Israel loses, then I really feel like we are doomed here in Western society.
So then we'll have much bigger problems than paying reparations.
clint russell
Extrapolate.
Why would we be doomed in Western society if Israel were to lose?
xaviaer durousseau
Because Israel is like our only ally in the Middle East.
And if they get taken down, then you have the collective Middle East led by Iran wanting to get their lick back against the United States.
Then we already pissed off Russia.
We pissed off China.
You got three major people who want to come after us.
And Hamas, if they're a key leader in leading the Middle East against us, they have been saying since 1988 they want to take out Jews and Christians worldwide.
Well, it's an interesting argument.
clint russell
I don't agree.
I don't think that we are in danger of a land invasion from anyone ever.
And as long as we have a nuclear arsenal that can wipe out the world multiple times over, I don't think that they're going to engage with us in a bombing campaign either.
So, while I do agree, I do agree that probably if we were to stop funding Israel, there's a distinct possibility they could lose that war.
I think it's actually more likely that if we were to defund that war, that they would actually then go to the negotiating table and work towards peace.
And I think that would be to the benefit of not just the Palestinians, but also to the Israelis, who I think have ultimately created such a toxic environment amongst their neighbors.
Turkey is getting very close to actually Well, so here's round two.
Turkey's a NATO ally. I mean, that is such a paradigm-shifting maneuver. I don't think
people are paying or giving it enough thought as to where this thing might be headed.
tim pool
Well, so here's round two. Would you like to read the new question I have proposed?
clint russell
Seed oils or no seed oils?
No cookies because America's hard to get back.
Ukraine and Israel, but he will use the money instead to deliver delicious chocolate chip
cookies to all Americans instead.
Would you support this?
End war, gimme cookies.
No cookies, more war.
ian crossland
Seed oils or no seed oils?
xaviaer durousseau
No cookies because America's already back.
tim pool
End war, gimme cookies.
clint russell
There we go, 95.6.
xaviaer durousseau
We have too many big backed Americans.
We need to un-normalize being obese.
So I am anti-cookies.
clint russell
You're going more war again?
xaviaer durousseau
This man loves war!
ian crossland
If it's coconut oil, I'll go with the cookies.
Maybe with a nice coconut sugar or honey.
But if it's like safflower oil, nah.
hannah claire brimelow
You'd rather go to war than have seed oils?
unidentified
World War.
ian crossland
World War IV, Hannah-Claire.
I'll go to war over seed oils.
unidentified
No, no.
hannah claire brimelow
It's not over seed oils.
unidentified
End the wars.
ian crossland
Come on, end the freaking wars.
tim pool
As you would.
ian crossland
Ending war, I don't know.
I don't know enough about it.
About imperialism and the danger of letting our guard down militarily.
Like, if we stop the offense, someone else will begin the offense.
That's the idea of global war.
hannah claire brimelow
We're the offense and the defense, right?
Because we've got every side of everything right now.
xaviaer durousseau
But even if we win the war, it's like, at what cost?
It's like, we're wiping out so many people.
It's like, ugh.
It's a lose-lose situation.
I agree with you on that.
I'm not a pro-war person.
unidentified
It's just I would rather not lose.
tim pool
Pre-COVID, under Trump, why was the economy doing so well and there were no new wars?
It's almost like when we don't waste money in these wars for conquest to create some liberal economic order, we actually see Americans prosper.
Because the economic resources are going towards the people of the country.
clint russell
Well, that's the whole America First mantra, right?
tim pool
What some people have pointed out in response to the actual question about ending the war is that the money spent on war, in many ways, does go to American companies and is spent in this country.
So when they're building rockets, it's American jobs that are getting paid the salaries that they buy cookies with and then they go home.
But the truth is, Well, that is true to a certain extent.
If all of the money was in the American economy, you're looking at, instead of building a $50 million drone missile or whatever, you're looking at contractors hiring electricians, who are hiring chefs, who are ordering cakes, who are buying playing cards.
This is why everyone's life in this country gets better, because the economic resources, the resources themselves, are traded amongst only the Americans for the purpose of generating resources for Americans.
Forget money.
Let's just talk about general trade.
We are all trading and the end result is a rocket that none of us will ever get to use and it's fired off in a foreign country.
Or we're all trading and the end result is a giant water slide for which we'll remain in our community and we can use whenever we want.
One gives us something that gives us more luxuries, one doesn't.
ian crossland
Just like you can retrofit an economy to go from like an industrial manufacturing base that makes roads and cars into an economy that makes missiles and tanks.
You go from like a car company into a tank company.
You could go from a tank company into a car company.
So you could kind of reverse engineer the military industrial complex into an industrial complex of another nature.
Of course, then the idea is, do you want to let your guard down militarily?
That's another.
clint russell
The argument is deeply flawed because they're both mass welfare programs.
You're stealing money from the taxpayer or through inflation via printing and borrowing
and then you're handing it out to your cronies. Well, your cronies instead of being Halliburton
or Lockheed Martin just becomes the minority population that you've opted to give them
the money for reparations.
There's still a multiplier effect when you hand out money to people.
They go and they spend it.
That goes to the corporations.
They then hire more people.
It's the same.
There's still a multiplier effect whether you're giving it out through reparations or through a corporation.
I just think that they're both obviously terrible.
And on one side, there's actually war and death and destruction.
ian crossland
On the other side, there's, you know, I won't say anything What we've got now is conquest, because in order to combat inflation, it looks like they're trying to seize resources from other countries.
If we stop the conquest, then there will be an attempted resource seizure within our country, is seemingly the fear.
clint russell
No, you're right.
tim pool
We should invade Alaska.
unidentified
We should take all of the troops.
tim pool
For whatever reason, we're not doing any energy exploration or development in our own territory, which is a massive, massive allotment of land that we control, that no one disputes.
But for some reason we're like, but why don't we go to Iran and blow them up?
No, why don't we go to Alaska where there aren't people?
We don't have to destroy the great wild lands or anything like that.
There are areas where we could begin development.
I went and visited Alaska last year, and I asked some of the locals who were there, I was like, would you be upset if the U.S.
said they wanted to put development around these cities and start doing energy stuff?
They're like, oh, that'd be fantastic.
We'd love to see that.
It'd make our lives get better.
I'm sure there are a lot of people who disagree, but on average, people that I talk to who are there were like, oh, that'd be great.
Our economy would improve.
We'd get more tourists.
We'd get more jobs.
Development would be fantastic, but they won't do it.
ian crossland
So why are we in... Why won't they do it, by the way?
tim pool
What is the... The answer that I was told, I think it was Daniel Turner and Jack Bassobo were talking about this, that it's the wealthy playground.
The ultra-wealthy elites, that's their safe haven where they want to go and say, no, no, you can't touch ours.
clint russell
I would think that it's probably more cost prohibitive to drill into frozen land for oil and gas, wouldn't it be?
tim pool
I don't know if that matters.
The question, of course, would be energy return on energy invested.
clint russell
And then transit costs, too, because it's so far away.
tim pool
Pipeline.
clint russell
Yeah.
Is there a pipeline, though?
ian crossland
Yeah, but you'd have to run into Canada.
tim pool
Yeah, I bet there is.
Let me pull up an oil pipeline map.
ian crossland
I remember the Gulf, as you're pulling that up, that Gulf oil spill.
What was that like 15 years ago?
clint russell
BP?
Yeah, yeah.
That was huge.
unidentified
Horrific.
tim pool
The first thing I should say is, duh, there's a pipeline.
I went to it!
It's massive.
It spans the whole state, but it doesn't go anywhere.
It doesn't go outside of Alaska.
I think we were in Fairbanks.
I can't remember.
And we went on a snowmobile tour.
I think that was in Fairbanks, wasn't it?
And we actually rode along the pipeline.
It's massive.
But my point is this.
Are we better off doing nation building in Afghanistan or Alaska?
clint russell
I think it's clearly here.
I think the argument, and I know this is kind of going against Michael Malice's rule and breaking your binary options that you're proffering, but I think the better option would be to tax the American people less and allow for the free market to decide what is actually an investment that's viable as opposed to this kind of technocratic approach that we're going to manage the economy, be it nation building abroad or nation building domestically.
This is my concern with Donald Trump's second term, in fact, is that he's been proposing kind of these, like, American cities rebirth thing project.
You guys know what I'm talking about?
ian crossland
No, what is it?
clint russell
I don't know the details.
I read it months ago.
I did know the details.
I can't remember exactly.
But he was talking about basically, like, federal funding to build these new cities so that there'd be affordable homes and jobs and you'd bring back domestic production.
And it's like, I just don't think that's actually how you fix this country.
I think the way you fix this country is through sound money, deregulation, ending the wars, bringing our troops home, and I think that would actually do way more than any of his well-laid plans.
tim pool
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All right.
Alpha Turkey asks, can Vivek replace Clarence Thomas for Supreme Court?
unidentified
Yes.
ian crossland
Eventually.
tim pool
Yes.
hannah claire brimelow
I think he should take over J.D.
Vance's Senate seat in Ohio.
tim pool
Yeah.
It's a couple years left, right?
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
tim pool
Two, is it?
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, and then he could run again.
tim pool
Yeah.
clint russell
Well, with J.D.
getting out, wouldn't they have a special election?
tim pool
It's an appointment, I'm pretty sure.
hannah claire brimelow
And the governor's a Republican.
clint russell
So he could appoint Vivek, theoretically.
tim pool
Yeah.
clint russell
That's interesting.
tim pool
Alright, World Citizen says the brain worm driving RFK Jr.
appears to be a patriot on a mission to save America.
Jokes aside, he gets much respect for this fight, fight, fight.
I... this is...
It is not just a white pill moment, it is a divine, glowing, holy white pill that has descended from the heavens, and I have never felt so optimistic.
ian crossland
On top of that, they wash it down with My Hero by the Foo Fighters.
Nice move, guys.
tim pool
That was a good one, too, yeah.
clint russell
As I said in the open, I am so jaded, it's unbelievable, after covering the news consistently since 2020 to today.
And this was like one of those days, one of those moments where you're just like, Oh, there's a chance, man.
Like, we got a fighting chance here.
It's special.
tim pool
Benjamin says, Can I get a shoutout for my friend's new album just released on Spotify?
American Deployed by Greg Whalen.
Greg is a veteran that was active in the despicable retreat from Afghanistan.
His experience there led to this album, Protest Folk, as my brother called it, amazing.
Cool.
American deployed.
Guys, check it out.
Shout out Ben Jamin.
Thanks for the super chat.
clint russell
Nice.
tim pool
And check out that music.
Very cool.
All right.
Fungus Among Us says, Harrison Tinsley put the blue gum under the table.
Here's $5.
I think we should give him a pass.
All right, fine.
clint russell
Is it true?
hannah claire brimelow
Did you say what the punishment for doing this was?
tim pool
I said I was going to post the video footage of it.
unidentified
Oh.
clint russell
Just shame.
tim pool
I was kidding.
hannah claire brimelow
Just shame.
He's not getting sentenced to two years in prison.
xaviaer durousseau
I'm petty.
clint russell
Oh, I would have posted it for sure.
That'd be hilarious.
ian crossland
In slow motion.
tim pool
I mean, we have the footage.
We found it.
clint russell
You're a scumbag.
tim pool
We have the footage.
So we have the security camera up top, and I was like, it records 24-7, but it's like, I think only three months, and then it... Sure.
Actually, no, I think it saves everything until we run out of space, and then it starts doing the buffer.
And so we were pretty sure we knew who did it.
clint russell
Surge, pull it up.
ian crossland
In the future, man.
tim pool
But every single, like, not literally, but almost every guest replied to my tweet.
Not me, not me. I didn't do it. I didn't do it.
ian crossland
All future guests.
hannah claire brimelow
They're like, I am not a part of this.
xaviaer durousseau
We were talking about that at PragerU.
tim pool
Everyone's got a trash can at their seat.
ian crossland
There's a trash can right here under the table. Everyone knows it now.
tim pool
But every seat has a trash can.
ian crossland
Yeah, even if you're nervous, bend out of the frame, go take a piss, do whatever you gotta do, relax, throw it in the trash can.
clint russell
I hadn't been on since the move to the new studio, so I didn't feel threatened that I had to respond and proclaim my innocence.
tim pool
It got like a thousand retweets.
I was like, jeez, I thought you thought it was a joke.
Let's go, uh, what do we have here?
A Produs says, big fan Tim, please share Dan Bongino's tweet about RFK tonight.
Help everyone share Dan's post to wake up everyone's leftist relative or friend.
What was the tweet?
clint russell
Yeah, and do we really need to help Dan Bongino go more viral?
tim pool
Well sure, I mean- I thought he was black for the whole time.
clint russell
I'm just saying, he's doing alright.
hannah claire brimelow
You did?
xaviaer durousseau
I thought that man was black until like earlier.
unidentified
He's not?
Oh yeah.
clint russell
I thought he was like half black.
xaviaer durousseau
I thought he was black.
ian crossland
He's gotta have black ancestry.
xaviaer durousseau
I was giving a list of black conservatives and people started laughing at me when I said Dan Bongino.
clint russell
Wait, is he not?
Oh, Bongino is an Italian?
hannah claire brimelow
Somebody call Dan right now, get him to tell us what his heritage is.
ian crossland
The Italians were invaded by the Moors like a thousand years ago so there might be ancestry.
clint russell
You're gonna go true romance on me, I love it.
ian crossland
I'm through Sicily I think is where the invasions were.
clint russell
The Moors, yeah.
Dennis Hopper gave a very legendary speech about this topic.
tim pool
Token Black Eye says, hey Tim, John 832.
And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
Everyone always says set instead of make.
Indeed they do.
Indeed.
Modernisms.
All right, Brian says, it's surreal watching this election cycle.
What will eventually be a chapter in a history book, seeing what RFK did just the latest.
Don't recall seeing another party dropping and endorsing another.
Can we just talk about that?
Everything that has happened so far, even with RFK's endorsement, is just like they have crammed 8,000 historical moments into one election cycle.
That's nuts.
clint russell
It's been a little over five weeks since a bullet grazed a former president's head, and it's like it never even happened.
It's nuts.
Joe Biden is the sitting president.
We talk about him as if he's deceased.
He doesn't even exist.
hannah claire brimelow
They sent him to California.
They didn't even want him at their convention.
Get out of here.
tim pool
I know it's happening.
Human Earth is on season 2024 and people are getting bored with it and the writers are just like, we gotta go nuts.
hannah claire brimelow
Like, what haven't we done yet?
Just throw everything at the wall.
clint russell
It's like Rick and Morty after sexual assault allegations.
The script is just broken at this point.
That's what the American people are dealing with.
tim pool
Well, I'm saying, like, in 2015, the showrunners, the production company, comes to the writers of Earth, and they're like, guys, ratings are in the trash can.
You know, we've been doing this for 2015 years, but no show lasts forever.
You better turn things around.
We need something exciting.
And they're like, wait, wait, wait, wait.
unidentified
What if...
tim pool
Donald Trump becomes president of the United States.
Okay, I'm listening.
ian crossland
Hold on, hold on.
Hear me out.
Donald Trump.
tim pool
People love him.
People love this guy.
ian crossland
First you gotta hate him, so Obama birth certificate thing, and then he'll run for president.
Okay, okay.
tim pool
They're like, well, no, look, I mean, people like watching him, but are they going to watch President?
Okay, well, what about the other half hate him?
And for no reason.
And they accuse him of being a spy.
So then you get Trump, who's this famous guy, everybody loves watching, but he's also a spy.
And then pick and choose.
clint russell
But then simultaneously, the true story is that the FBI is actually spying on him.
He's not a Russian asset.
They're spying on him because they're traitors.
Look, honestly, the script is pretty good.
ian crossland
Kim Jong-un is like, kind of an anti-hero.
I mean, he's obviously a villain, but kind of an anti-hero, you know?
clint russell
You know the guy that played Power Ford for the Chicago Bulls from 1994 to 1996?
He's gonna make peace with him.
unidentified
Yeah.
xaviaer durousseau
We'll see you in 1995.
Have you seen the Illuminati card game that has predicted an insane amount of stuff that has happened?
We haven't.
ian crossland
You do?
tim pool
A card game?
xaviaer durousseau
I don't want to touch it, though.
unidentified
Yeah, I don't know.
tim pool
It's in a box somewhere.
I don't know.
We have a whole bunch of board games and everything, and we got that one game.
xaviaer durousseau
Have you guys seen that?
Where they have cards of, like, Trump, and they have cards about, like, two planes hitting the Twin Towers.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
xaviaer durousseau
All of this is a card game in 1995.
tim pool
Yes, but it's not weird.
ian crossland
In high school.
tim pool
A lot of people are like, how could they have made the Twin Towers being hit?
clint russell
Because it was attacked in 91.
tim pool
It was attacked in 91, and they repeatedly talked about how they were serious targets for terror attacks.
clint russell
But I did think it is interesting because so often there was this montage of like seven or eight different cartoons that were put out in the 1990s, including The Simpsons, a whole bunch of others, that just kept showing the WTC get hit by, you know, flying.
ian crossland
Yeah, that could have been predictive programming.
It's tough to tell.
clint russell
It's interesting.
tim pool
So you can call it a simulation.
But what I don't like about simulation is that it separates the universe from God.
Simulation is what nerds try to use to justify creationism.
No, it's not God creating us.
We were created by an advanced race who built a simulation.
I'm like, okay, dude, use semantics.
Construct.
We're in a construct.
A powerful entity creating a construct.
ian crossland
A self-assembling construct.
tim pool
Self-assembling?
No, I'm not.
ian crossland
It's self-assembling.
I feel like the things you say are going to happen, happen.
Especially if you have a lot of people listening to you.
clint russell
You sound like Oprah with the gift back in 2000.
Yeah.
ian crossland
It's so weird how it happens.
clint russell
Which, by the way, Oprah, can I just, quick riff?
tim pool
Ian will be president.
clint russell
Wait, what?
Oh, we're just gonna manifest it?
ian crossland
I like it.
clint russell
Ian will be president.
xaviaer durousseau
Can I use the motorcade?
Just for clout reasons?
tim pool
It's gonna be 20 years, and Ian's gonna be a billionaire off his graphene investments.
He's gonna be developing a whole lot of crazy technology.
He's gonna use that money to run for office.
He's going to be this middle-of-the-road guy.
They're gonna try and pull up clips of him being hyper-partisan, but they won't be able to find him, and he's constantly defending both sides, and they'll have no means of attack.
He'll end up winning by, like, a couple points, becoming president.
clint russell
And then he'll probably die traversing Antarctica trying to find the end of Earth.
What do you think?
ian crossland
That would be like a blaze of glory, man.
We're around like 170, I'll go down there.
hannah claire brimelow
You want to talk about Oprah?
clint russell
I just want to blast Oprah for a second.
hannah claire brimelow
Go back to Donald Trump before anyone else.
clint russell
Yes, well, that's true.
So there's obviously hypocrisy here too, but what really drove me nuts is for her to get up there and to have the audacity as a black woman in America who became a billionaire probably multiple times over, largely predicated off of the fact that we aren't a racist nation, that white women to the tune of millions, sent her a billion plus dollars in
profit over the years, and she still gets up there and lectures the American
people that she had to fight income inequality and racism and blah blah blah blah blah.
I just don't know how they don't have more shame. And it's not just Oprah. I mean, you
got Nancy Pelosi going up there.
Riches all get out.
Hillary Clinton going up there.
Bill Clinton going up there.
Super rich.
You got the Bidens, obviously.
You have the House Congressional Oversight that comes out saying there's really compelling evidence that they, you know, grifted their family $28 million off of selling the American people out.
Like, all of these people are absurdly wealthy.
Just the nerve to get up there and lecture the American people about income inequality makes me sick.
xaviaer durousseau
It's also funny that they had so many people going up there being like, oh, the Democrats, we're for the working class, we're for the people that are working hard to build America.
And then talking all this crap about how the Republicans are just a whole bunch of billionaires and politicians backed by billionaires.
But then you have billionaires come on the stage for you.
You have all these billionaires.
You have J.B.
clint russell
Pritzker, too.
xaviaer durousseau
Yeah.
Governor of Illinois.
You got Oprah.
You got all these people going up there.
tim pool
Let's grab some more.
Copper Lobo says, RFK isn't at positive, but can we please stop saying the Democrats are the party of civil rights.
They're the party of the KKK, civil rights bill filibuster, and inner-city abortion clinics.
You are correct, and I respect that.
I still respect RFK saying, what happened to my party?
Because that's what they thought.
And so here's a guy who took the red pill hard.
Oh wait, the Democrats are actually the bad guys.
What happened?
Look, we can get into the whole history of your party, but all I'm saying right now is RFK is saying something's wrong with my party.
Can I join yours?
Well, yes, please.
Right this way.
We can have conversations in the greater detail later, but if this dude's saying this is our path forward, it's our path forward, then...
clint russell
That's what I think was so remarkable about his willingness to do this.
I mean, he campaigned for a long time, and he had lots of members of his family come out and just basically say, like, he is embarrassing our family.
He does not carry on the legacy of his own father.
Imagine the nerve to tell a son that he is not carrying on the legacy of his father as he's literally running for President of the United States.
These people are so reprehensible, but this is what kind of put me on the path of trusting in his You know, his truth-telling, like that he was actually sincere.
ian crossland
I want the Kennedys, all you guys, to know that what Bobby has done will reignite a love for your family for hundreds, maybe even thousands of years.
The guy's super legit.
clint russell
Are you talking to the Kennedy family?
ian crossland
Yeah.
Anybody that's worried about the legacy, Bobby is the man.
unidentified
Oh, dude, this photo of Trump and RFK Jr.
tim pool
with the fireworks going off.
clint russell
It ain't exactly the... but it's up there.
hannah claire brimelow
It's still pretty cool, though.
And I think it does, you know, strike terror in the hearts of people who are hoping that they could just... because there were so many Democratic-led campaigns to try and get Kennedy off the ballot in places where he had fairly won access to it, and they were led by Democrats.
Like, his party really sold him out, and I think that despite the fact that everyone was like, he takes votes from Trump, he takes votes from Trump, it wasn't...
There were no Republican right-wing organizations trying to run him off the ballot.
They were Democrats.
clint russell
Exactly.
hannah claire brimelow
So I think there is a fear of the influence he has over the nation.
clint russell
And that, I think, was the most compelling argument for RFK to ultimately end up endorsing Trump, is that it was not Trump.
It was not the GOP machine that was trying to ruin him.
It was the Democrats.
It was his own party.
I mean, absolutely vicious.
By the way, I just came up with the greatest idea imaginable, and if there's any AI specialists out there, what I want you guys to do is take the footage of Bobby Kennedy shirtless a year ago doing the incline press, and I want you to transition him to walking into CIA headquarters.
I'm telling you, it'll go super viral.
Just do it.
Thank you.
Wouldn't that be hilarious?
tim pool
Denny D. Alelio says, RFK has my votes to win the walkaway video contest.
hannah claire brimelow
Oh my gosh, he should do the walkaway video contest!
tim pool
Or at the very least, Brandon should be like, honorable mention, who did not enter but has one of the best walkaway videos ever, here's RFK Jr.' 's speech.
hannah claire brimelow
He should be a judge for the contest.
They should bring him on as a special guest judge.
tim pool
Yeah.
I mean, I gotta be honest, RFK Jr.' 's speech today was the best walkaway video I've ever seen.
hannah claire brimelow
I don't think he needs the $10,000 though.
clint russell
I mean, the way he just so masterfully obliterated every single institution that I despise, from like the CIA to the FBI to HHS to the CDC to the...
And then he goes, and then to the DNC, and then to CNN, and then, you know, it's just like, kept going.
Hour plus, beat down.
It was awesome.
It made me feel just joyous.
unidentified
Really did.
clint russell
I'm sorry, I loved it.
I love it when my enemies get what's coming to them, you know?
tim pool
Alright, here we go.
Just leave me alone, since I never thought a Democrat suspending his race would bring me to tears.
This was a godsend.
We the MAGA welcome RFK Jr.
and all his supporters.
Save the children.
clint russell
We the MAGA.
tim pool
Absolutely.
clint russell
Wild.
tim pool
This is why I'm saying you gotta be, you know, it's important to be nice to the moderates trying to win them over.
Cause you do.
RFK coming over means there's a whole lot of moderates who don't want to say vote Trump who have the door open for them by RFK.
Joe Rogan said RFK is the only one who makes sense.
What happens now when RFK says, Joe, we're going to have to get behind Donald Trump on this one.
What's Joe going to say to that?
clint russell
Well, this is exactly why I got so frustrated and it makes me feel absurd to even talk about it because of his handle.
But cat turd, I'm talking to you.
The way he went after anybody that was not just hard in the paint, 100% zealot for Donald Trump.
That is exactly the reason that RFK ultimately endorsed Donald Trump, is because he kept the door open.
tim pool
Yeah, the left is nuts.
We don't want to act like them.
clint russell
No, I don't want to be them at all.
The whole reason I'm fighting them is because I don't want to be them.
tim pool
And imagine if they were the party that was accepting and open and willing to debate, then this would be a very different country.
But as RFK Jr.
points out, censorship, war, the rich, Big Pharma, they will shut you down, they will tell you to shut up, fall in line, or else.
And the right, for the longest time, has been the party of, oh man, that's really messed up what they're doing to you.
That's it.
That's the famous comic where the blue guy pushes the person in the middle to the red guy and then says, why are you joining them?
Dude, when I was at Berkeley, I went to get dinner.
Afterwards, a bunch of Trump supporters were like, we're going to go eat, Tim.
Why don't you come hang out with us?
And we disagreed.
And we sat down and we ordered food.
I can't remember where we were at.
Big table full of some of the biggest Trump supporters in like 2017 or whatever, and they're all talking.
And then I talked to them about a lot of stuff we talked about in the culture war today, like redlining, blockbusting in Chicago.
And I said, I think a lot of conservatives don't ever hear real arguments because the woke have given this crackpot racist argument of like segregating DEI or whatever.
We didn't call it DEI, but it was like the POC and non-POC stuff.
And I was like, actually being in Chicago, like, here's what I see.
And the Trump supporters were like, I never thought about it like that.
And that was the end.
Nobody said, hey Tim, vote for Trump.
Nobody said, you're a dumb liberal.
They were just like, well, here's what we think.
And that was it.
That opened the door for me and a lot of people who watch the show probably to be like, yeah, there's a real chance here.
Ben Shapiro, we'll debate you.
He'll be nice to you.
He'll tell you you're wrong, and he'll be nice to you if you're nice to him.
The left will physically attack you and throw bricks through your window.
clint russell
Oh, exactly.
And this is why I took this kind of personally, is because, just coincidentally, I happened to be at the Young Americans for Liberty event in Orlando with Dave Smith and Josie, the red-headed libertarian.
And Kyle Rittenhouse was, like, standing 30 feet away from me, and I had just seen Cat Turd trying to ruin the kid's life.
And I walked up to Kyle, and I talked to him for about 15, 20 minutes just to see, like, what's the angle?
Why are you writing in Ron Paul?
Which, by the way, immediately strikes me deeply in my heart.
That is the most beautiful sentiment imaginable, obviously.
But I just wanted to see, you know, what the spirit of it was.
And it was like, yeah, I just met Ron Paul for the first time yesterday, and I tweeted it out.
And now everyone wants me to die.
And it was just so obviously sincere and from the heart and he was kind of in a panic and I was like, I just gave him a big hug and I was like, nice to meet you dude.
I think you're an American hero.
I think it'll cool down and fortunately it has.
tim pool
I want everybody watching to just manifest Trump winning.
We're just going to manifest it.
Ian thinks it's true.
So send your vibes to the moon to bounce it off the moon and send it back to earth so that Trump wins.
Because I'm just imagining what it'll be like if, if November 6th, you know, PA is like, we're not going to have the results for a long time.
What if it's so overwhelming?
They're like, nah, there's, it doesn't matter what PA says.
Trump's got 305 electoral votes or whatever.
I'm just imagining what that day is going to be like when I just, we're going to go to the river.
We're going to take some inner tubes and we're just going to sit on those inner tubes and just float and just sit back and be like, this is the day.
clint russell
I think we need to get another yacht in Miami.
Sorry, this is just me pitching you to get me another yacht.
unidentified
That was fun.
donald j trump
That was so fun, dude.
tim pool
Yeah, we went to Miami and we rented a boat.
And everybody was on it, partying.
unidentified
It was quite a boat.
tim pool
Alex Stein was dancing.
ian crossland
We gotta get to work immediately when he wins.
We gotta immediately.
That's true.
tim pool
We gotta start working on stuff.
That's true, but we will celebrate.
ian crossland
Yeah, well the work is the celebration.
tim pool
Well we celebrate first.
ian crossland
For me anyway.
I celebrate now.
tim pool
This is actually a really good point.
Trump winning is actually just the starting line and that's when things get, I wouldn't say harder, like right now it's hard getting Trump and people like Vivek and RFK Jr., Tulsi Gabbard.
I mean this is amazing what we're seeing.
The people he's brought around him so far has been really great news.
unidentified
Agreed.
tim pool
And with a commission on JFK and RFK.
Let's get it.
He better.
He better.
Because, you know, people say things.
People say things.
That means when Trump does win, we better make sure that commission happens.
We better make sure those good people stay.
So that's where the work begins.
But I would call that more tedious at that point.
Getting Trump past that finish line, the next part is the tedium of maintaining and seeing through everything we want to see through.
clint russell
You know, I generally agree with that.
I just want to add another part of my wish list.
Please free Ross Ulbricht, Snowden, Assange.
Snowden's free.
Assange is free, but I think Snowden... Oh, you think it will happen?
tim pool
I think it happens.
I think Trump goes nuclear.
I mean, the fact that he said...
And again, I want to stress, he just said, we'll see.
We're going to need to keep his feet to the fire when he does win.
But I think it's more likely than not because Trump, look, there's a lot of diehard Trump supporters who don't want to accept that he's got an ego.
And, you know, when Brandon Strzok was here, with all due respect to Brandon, I said, I think Trump is very much motivated by wanting people to like him.
And a lot of Trump supporters are like, no, he's altruistic.
He's trying to help everybody.
And I'm like, big golden Trump on buildings in every city.
Okay, dude, it's not bad that you want people to like you.
I'm not saying that's a vice or, you know, Donald Trump's... We all want to be liked to some extent.
If Donald Trump's largely motivated by wanting to be liked, that means he's trying to help as many people as possible because he wants people to like and respect him.
That's great.
It's fantastic.
It'd be weird if he was like, I don't care if they like me at all.
clint russell
It's kind of sociopathic at that point if you don't care at all.
tim pool
Yeah, so I do believe that Trump will deliver on his promises because he doesn't want to be the guy whose honor was challenged.
clint russell
And I think the other side of that coin is that they took a shot at him, you know?
Like, the whole reason I think he didn't deliver in his first term is because, one, he didn't understand the inner workings of D.C., but two, he thought that if he kind of schmoozed them and did the businessman thing where he's like, you know, I'm going to be respectful and nice and you'll be my buddy and then we'll work together and we'll advance some
things and I'll give you this and you'll give me that, we'll compromise."
And they're like, you don't understand.
You're not the president.
The intelligence agencies run everything.
And it's like, okay, I didn't get that after four years.
But then after you guys spotted me with the FBI and then tried to impeach me twice off
of nonsense and then took a shot at me, yeah, I'm pretty sure there's no more Mr. Nice Guy.
tim pool
How many deep state intelligence guys do you think are sitting in their room in the dark,
rocking back and forth with a hip flask, swinging away being like, if this guy wins, we're in
trouble, man.
unidentified
Yeah, definitely in a panic.
ian crossland
A lot of people that are looking for work.
tim pool
Trump looking for work, looking for countries to live in.
Donald Trump saying, we're going to release the documents on JFK, RFK on January 13th.
You've got people who are going like, oh crap, oh crap, oh crap.
clint russell
What he really needs to do is add J6 to that.
I would very much like to know about the device outside, feet away from Kamala Harris, who's now the chosen one to be the President of the United States, and we have no information on that?
tim pool
I gotta get this one more in.
Space is cool man with, I think he wins the best super chat, Brat Summer, Nuclear Winter.
That was a good one, that was a good one.
xaviaer durousseau
And Demir Autumn.
unidentified
Mindful.
tim pool
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Let me check the guest list and see what we got on Monday.
It's going to be Joseph McBride Esquire.
So it'll be a fun show, of course, and there'll be a lot of developments over the weekend with whatever happened with this RFK Junior Rally stuff.
We'll see how it starts affecting the news and the polls.
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Clint, do you want to shout anything out?
clint russell
I would love to.
Clint Russell is the name.
Liberty Lockdown is the flagship for my own personal solo show where I have guests and things like that.
I just had Ron Paul on.
It was very cool.
Also Ian Carroll.
A bunch of awesome guests.
But I also do the best political show with a Polish man who does not have a name.
That's all I have to say about him.
It's We Are Change over on Rumble.
We go live three nights a week, six to eight.
But I do have another co-host.
She's the button pusher named Steph.
She has a name.
The other person does not have a name.
Anyways, I also do Tower Gang with a bunch of lunatics and it's really racist and stupid.
but don't watch that.
tim pool
All right.
clint russell
Xavier, do you want to share?
Well, at Liberty Log Pod on X and subscribe there.
I'll follow you back.
xaviaer durousseau
There you go.
So I'm Xavier DeRusso from Prager University.
You can find me on Instagram, threads, believe it or not, TikTok and Facebook and YouTube all at Xavier.
ian crossland
That's X-A-V-I-A-R and on X at Xavier D. I'm Ian Crossland because I am ethically bound by my friendships and doing what's right.
I will mention his name.
His name is Luke Rutkowski.
Ladies and gentlemen, follow Luke Rutkowski and The Best Political Show on YouTube and Rumble.
clint russell
Ian, when he was guest hosting at the RNC and all, like, seven times over the past six months, he never once mentioned my name.
What a foul creature.
I just want you to know that I have done 140 shows with him over the past year.
He did not say my name.
ian crossland
Also, special shout out to Stephanie Marie, who does push the buttons on The Best Political Show, the heartbeat of the episodes.
clint russell
That's right.
ian crossland
Check it out.
clint russell
She does have a name.
ian crossland
And Tower Gang.
I think it's every Thursday or Tuesday.
clint russell
It's every Wednesday at 9-11 Eastern.
ian crossland
Love it.
And I'm Ian Crossland.
Follow you later.
hannah claire brimelow
I love that you're on threads.
I feel like you're in a mission field that way.
You're really bringing culture there.
I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlow.
I'm a writer for scnr.com at Scanner News.
Follow their work at TimCastNews on the internet.
If you want to follow me, I'm Hannah-Claire dot B on Instagram.
I'm Hannah-Claire B on Twitter.
Thanks for everything you guys do.
Have a good night.
tim pool
We will see you all next week.
Monday, we'll be back at 10 a.m.
at youtube.com slash TimCastNews for the morning live show.
Don't miss it.
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