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tim pool
The big controversy today, this morning in Eastern time, there was a boxing match between
an individual who has registered XY chromosomes previously, but may or may not be, this is
trans, we don't know for sure, and it's led to a lot of controversy because the female
competitor bowed out, forfeited the match after 46 seconds, pulled her hand away from
the ref, dropped to her knees, started crying, and refused to fight.
This has led to a lot of people saying that they stand with the female competitor because the Olympics should never have allowed a male to compete.
Well, there's another male.
As the story goes, it's two individuals who they claim were born female, or at the very least registered female, on their birth certificates and passports because Taiwan and Algeria, where the two fighters hail from, do not recognize transgender alterations to certificates.
However, these individuals may have some type of androgen insensitivity that results in them presenting as female despite having testosterone and XY chromosomes.
So, the whole thing's been quite controversial, and it's led to a statement from the Olympics.
Currently, Riley Gaines, tweeting in support of the female, has over 134,000 retweets on her post standing with the individual.
So, massive story.
We'll talk about that.
Then, of course, we have the projections for Kamala Harris.
Is she going to win?
Yeah, the betting odds are now suggesting Kamala Harris is going to win.
She is now leaning favorably in the blue wall states, and speculation that she's going to pick Josh Shapiro of Pennsylvania has led many to believe, or some to believe, that she will win Pennsylvania, and that's why she's going to make this choice.
Shapiro, of course, clear to schedule.
ahead of the announcement for her VP pick, so it may be Shapiro.
So we're going to talk about that, plus a whole lot more.
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Taylor Hanson.
tayler hansen
Always thanks for having me.
I'm a field reporter with Tenet Media.
I cover pretty much anything breaking news related and culturally relevant decay, I should say.
So a little bit of everything.
tim pool
Yikes.
Where can they find you?
tayler hansen
Tenet Media is at WatchTenet now.
All my stuff goes exclusively on there.
tim pool
And then tomorrow morning, we're going to be on The Culture War, talking about communism and Islam.
And that's at Tenet Media on YouTube, so check them out as well.
We also got Libby hanging out.
libby emmons
I'm hanging out.
I'm here.
Glad to see you, Taylor.
I'm Libby Emmons.
I am with the Postmillennial and humanevents.com.
hannah claire brimelow
And I'm Hannah-Claire Brimelow.
I'm a writer for SCNR.com.
That's Scanner News.
Follow their work at TimCastNews.
I'm glad you're both here.
There's a lot to talk about today.
Let's get started.
tim pool
Here's the big story from the Daily Mail.
Olympic Committee releases statement on Iman Khalif after biologically mailboxer destroyed.
Female rival Angela Carini in 46 seconds.
I mean you watch this video and this dude is just like boom Right in her face, and it was so hard.
She immediately just like I'm done I am NOT gonna fight and we actually have the video for you guys, so let's see if we can get this video up here this is so there this is the there were there were two stops and So you can see here on the bottom left, uh, it says 2 minutes and 20 seconds.
It's a 3 minute start.
So this is, uh, uh, about 40 seconds in.
Watch, watch what happens.
unidentified
What?
Solid, straight right hand from Khalees there.
tim pool
That's it.
Just like that, they call the match.
I think I might have another tweet.
There's her crying.
I don't think I have the other.
There's other clips of it, but that's basically it.
So at 46 seconds in, she bows out.
Now the controversy here is that Iman Khalif As well as another competitor whose, I believe, name is Lin Yu-Ting.
Yeah, Lin Yu-Ting.
They both tested biologically male.
XY chromosomes is what the statement from the World Boxing Association, whatever the organization's called, it's like a World Boxing Championship, said.
XY chromosomes and they had male testosterone levels.
And so they were disqualified and had their medals stripped, I believe, from previous fights.
They are still allowed to compete in the Olympics because the Olympics criteria is that your passport says F.
That was it.
And so they put out this statement, and this has led a lot of people to say, hold on, this may not be cut and dry, these may be intersex individuals.
Well, I believe now what the narrative is, is that they're suffering from something called DSD.
I believe the general idea is that they have an insensitivity at some degree to testosterone, resulting in the development of a female structure in the womb, despite them having internal testes, male chromosomes, and actually going through male puberty and legit just being male.
And so the Olympics has released this statement.
Joint Paris 2024 Boxing Unit IOC Statement.
Every person has the right to practice sport without discrimination.
All athletes participating in the boxing tournament of the Olympic Games Paris 2024 comply with the competition's eligibility and entry regulations, as well as all applicable medical regulations set by Paris 2024 Boxing Unit, PBU.
As with previous Olympic boxing competitions, the gender and age of these athletes are based on their passport.
Well, okay.
These rules— This effect is wrong.
I just assumed that was like the British spelling of it.
tayler hansen
Yeah, it is.
hannah claire brimelow
Taylor's only here for American spelling.
tim pool
They say the rules also apply during the qualification period, including the boxing tournaments of the 2023 European Games, Asian Games, Pan-American Games, and Pacific Games, the Ad Hoc 2023 African Qualifying Tournament, etc., etc.
We'll skip ahead.
We'll skip ahead.
They say the PBU used the Tokyo 2022 rules as the baseline.
They're going to mention that these individuals did compete four years ago.
And I mentioned this on my previous coverage a couple days ago.
They say we have senior reports misleading information about two female athletes competing at the Olympic Games Paris 2024.
Full stop.
They're saying female, despite the fact that official gender testing from the World Championship Boxing Association is that they tested male.
So, confusion there.
The two athletes have been competing in international boxing competitions for many years in the women's category, including the Olympic Games Tokyo 2020.
They say International Boxing Association World Championships and IBA-sanctioned tournaments.
I believe that's who actually said no and stripped them of their titles.
These two athletes were victims of a sudden and arbitrary decision by the IBA.
Toward the end of the IBA World Championships in 2023, they were suddenly disqualified without any due process.
According to the IBA minutes available on our website, this decision was initially taken solely by the IBA Secretary General and CEO.
The IBA board only ratified it afterwards and only subsequently requested that a procedure to follow in similar cases in the future should be established and reflected in the IBA regulations.
The minutes also say that the IBA should establish a clear procedure on gender testing.
The current aggression against these two athletes is based entirely on this arbitrary decision, which was taken without any proper procedure, especially considering that these athletes had been competing in top-level competition for many years.
They say such an approach is contrary to good governance.
They go on to say the IOC has made it clear that it needs national boxing federations to reach a consensus around new international federation in order for boxing to be included on the sports program.
Blah, blah, blah.
They're there to protect human rights, etc., etc.
And so now there's a big controversy, right?
J.K.
Rowling has chimed in.
We have this Algeria FC football club says, cry more.
It's a picture of Angela Carini of Italy crying.
Taylor, I'm sorry, Riley Gaines, not Taylor Silverman, Riley Gaines, shout out to Taylor, 137.4 million views, 135,000 retweets on, men don't belong in women's sports, stand with Angela Carini, let's get it trending.
Well, I'm going to pause right there and I'm going to try and be as offensive to literally everybody as possible and I do not stand with Angela Carini.
I do not stand with anybody who supports men fighting women.
I do not stand with anybody who believes that males should be entitled to female sporting spaces.
I disagree with that.
And that includes even if it's coming from Karine.
She said that she forfeited the match because her nose was hurting.
She did not say she forfeited the match because she was up against a biological male.
And in defeat, Karine said, quote, I wish her to carry on until the end and that she could be happy.
I am someone who doesn't judge anyone.
I am not here to give judgments.
That's just me.
I'm not going to stand with feminists who think it's okay that biological males punch women in the face.
That's just me.
I don't know what you guys think.
hannah claire brimelow
This is a weird case because if it's, you know, so the fighter in question, Khalif, is from Algeria and Algeria doesn't change people's gender on their passport to accommodate transgenderism, which would mean presumably this person has always been classified by the government as female, which again makes me think this is an intersex case and there had been that intersex runner from South Africa in the past and I remember it was a big controversy because at the time the Olympics would test hormone levels and intersex athletes like who were classified as female but had high levels of testosterone and had to take birth control to lower their testosterone.
At the time, the runner didn't want to do it.
And so it's always been this weird issue where like – and sometimes the transgender ideology movement includes intersex people and sometimes they don't, right?
Because it depends on what they're actually feeling.
But being transgender seems very different for me than being like someone born with very complicated XY or XXY or whatever chromosomes.
libby emmons
Well, there's castrosemenia.
hannah claire brimelow
That's what I'm talking about.
That's a South African runner.
And again, it's very weird.
If a different committee, a different sport had said your testosterone levels are too high no matter how you were raised or whatever, how you're classified, then that seems like it's an ongoing issue.
But the Olympics has changed their standards for this issue in a lot of ways, especially as it's gone from being about intersex people who have You know, issues with hormones and genitalia and all kinds of stuff versus like someone who just in their mind has decided they are not whatever sex they are biologically born.
tim pool
This is not a transgender issue at all.
Not at all.
And I was saying this days ago.
When the story first broke that the Olympics were going to allow biological males to compete against women, I stressed there is no evidence to suggest these are transgender individuals.
They are literally just males.
And it turns out that's likely the case.
Now, the argument is they were born and presumed female.
Which actually is an argument for a lot of the left on the whole issue, but presents a serious problem in sports.
They have male testosterone levels, they have male physical advantages, they are biologically male except for what's called DSD, I suppose that's what it's being referred to.
And so it's males.
And so how do we handle this?
Hey look man, I don't know.
I can certainly tell you that the one thing I really do not like about a lot of the conservatives in this regard is they continually defend progressives and feminists and I just don't get it.
Like imagine if Kamala Harris uh... got sniffed by joe biden and complained about it
i mean we'd be like it's really bad that he did that we get it but then she
nearly came around i know but she may turn around and said no no it's good
that is something all these women that i got okay well then you got what you
want and i mean i don't understand she if she's defending it and she supports it why would you
defender kareen
uh... people to make the argument that all she's forced to say these things or
whatever If a feminist says she wants to fight a guy, gets in the ring with that guy and fights him, not a single conservative would defend her.
I don't understand why they're defending her now.
tayler hansen
Well, she doesn't have a backbone, and I think that shows.
I mean, she will never compete again if she comes out and says something, but look at what Riley Gaines did, and that's exactly what we need from these girls.
It's like, she's literally saying that she hopes that this man goes on and beats the crap out of a bunch of different women and
wins the gold medal, which is absolutely insane. And if you're, you know, how hormones work, these
people were born male, even if there were complications, you can't just inject testosterone and
become a male, even if that was the case, but they have elevated DHT levels, elevated
testosterone levels, knowing you make them literally testes.
I mean, these are males, no matter the complications or anything.
So now we're glorifying on the national stage of what's supposed to be the highest, you know, held regard sports in the world, that men are literally abusing women in a ring, and they're defending it.
tim pool
Who's a prominent feminist?
Let's just say Kamala Harris.
If Kamala Harris came out right now and said, You're all bigots.
This is a beautiful woman who should be allowed to compete in the Olympics, then got in the ring and said, I'll prove it, and I'll box this person, and lost.
Conservatives would mock Kamala all day.
They'd say, men shouldn't compete against women, but Kamala, it's absurd.
She supports this.
She gets what she voted for.
The same thing is true for Angela Carini.
But people are like, we're going to stand with her because she was crying.
I'm like, but she immediately, she's crying and then saying, I support this.
libby emmons
The other thing too, as far as the argument that she was forced to say something, forced by what?
Her dream is already squashed.
Like, say whatever you want now, it's all dead.
tayler hansen
Well, imagine training your entire life, literally.
These athletes go their entire life to train for something like this, finally get to the Olympics, their dream is to win a gold medal, and then it's squashed by a biological man that beats the crap out of you on a national stage, and you don't have the intentionality behind you and what you believe in to come out and say, hey, this is wrong.
libby emmons
Yeah, and this whole thing reminds me of one year my friend for Halloween, she put on a fake black eye, and I was like, what's your costume?
She goes, oh, I got mouthy.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Fair Play for Women changed their Twitter, their X-Banner, to a battered woman, and it says, the year male violence against women became an Olympic sport.
So, yeah, things are certainly getting a bit spicy, nonetheless.
But, you know, this is the big question.
How, like, how do you handle this?
And should we expect this to continue in future Olympics?
I think the answer is yes, it will continue and it'll get worse.
And I don't know, even if Donald Trump wins, it doesn't change European culture in other countries.
tayler hansen
Well, it says a lot about the current state of society that now we have Olympic Games where biological men are literally beating the crap out of women and women are saying, no, this is a good thing.
Let him beat the crap out of more women and steal everybody's gold medals.
libby emmons
The thing too is none of this would have happened in this way.
Nobody would be quite this upset about it if they hadn't been trying to force men into women's sports already.
So now it's like, oh, should the standard for being able to compete in women's sports be that your chromosomes are tested?
Should we be testing everybody's chromosomes, the entire U.S.
Olympic This is what I find so confusing, right?
Is that what we should be doing?
Because all of these, you know, you have like these male persons, right, with male characteristics.
Colin Wright was talking about it.
We talked about this before the show.
He was saying that there's plenty of variation biologically and in the sexes, and this is a variation of a male person.
These wouldn't even be questions if it wasn't that they were forcing men into women's sport.
tim pool
I can answer this very, very easily, just to cross the board.
libby emmons
Go for it.
tim pool
You can't bet on this.
I have been trying to bet on these fights.
I can't.
You've got a fight coming up with Lin Yuting tomorrow.
I searched, bet MGM and DraftKings.
Tank there?
And then you've got the next fight with Khalif coming up the quarterfinals.
It's not there.
And I'm like, hey man, you know, it may only be a 3% return, but free money is free money.
So the betting odds for the Iman Khalif Karini fight was if you bet $100 on Iman, you won $3.
libby emmons
Oh, so you'd get 103 back?
tim pool
Yes.
tayler hansen
I've never seen betting odds that are that low.
tim pool
It's minus 3,333.
I think it might be some of the lowest.
And I think right now the Lin Yuting odds are minus 250, which isn't that bad.
I think you win, what does that mean?
You win like 40 bucks.
So I guess what happened was, before anybody knew what was going on, The betting odds for Iman was minus 150.
That means if you bet $100, you'd win $66.
So $100 in, $166 comes out if Iman wins.
As soon as people got word that Iman had failed a gender test and was male, it dropped way down instantly.
Basically, everybody started just going after it, being like, I'm free money, baby.
So I started Google searching it.
I got DraftKings.
I got BetMGM.
I can't.
I search for them.
They don't come up.
Other boxing matches come up.
There's Olympic boxing men's and women's.
There's by different weight categories.
They have the times listed.
And I can't find Khalif or Lin Yuting in these apps or on their websites.
In fact, when I search the websites, it comes up on Google.
You click it.
Gone.
libby emmons
Well, Khalif has lost to actual women before.
tim pool
Yeah.
libby emmons
So, I mean, there's no reason you shouldn't be able to bet on it.
tim pool
I mean, maybe, I don't know what the issue is.
libby emmons
It's not like a, you know, predetermined.
tim pool
Other people have posted that as soon as they found out, because Alex Stein's making a big deal of it, he's like, guys, go bet on the males to win.
I mean, it's a great odds.
And other people have posted the bets disappeared.
Like, they pulled up the websites, they were there before, now they're gone.
I think, uh, the issue- I don't know exactly how the payouts work.
Maybe you guys in the chat know.
Do you guys know how, like, the betting system works?
My understanding is that it's basically everybody who bets, you're basically betting against each other.
So the odds change based on the amount of money in the pool based on how the bets are going.
So if, like, three people are betting on Carini, then the most you can win is whatever they put in.
So it's, like, almost nothing.
So everybody and their grandma was betting on Kalief to win.
And so there's very little to actually win because nobody's betting on you with three bucks.
Some people might be thinking, hey, it's a value bet.
I got to tell you, be warned, though.
Think about this.
Imagine you're a dude, you know, and you're pulling a Juana man.
You go to the—Juana, man.
libby emmons
What's that?
tim pool
It's where the basketball player gets kicked out of the—it's the movie.
He gets kicked out of the NBA, so then he dresses up in drag and then competes in the WNBA instead.
libby emmons
I gotcha, okay.
tim pool
Because he's like, I play basketball, I want a job.
tayler hansen
First dunk ever.
tim pool
Yeah.
So it's a real movie.
It's real.
I'm not making fun of anybody.
So imagine this Khalif person knows that they have testes and male testosterone and they're
going to win.
And so they drum up all of this controversy.
Everybody runs full speed to bet as much as they can on him to win, thinking, hey, look,
if I bet 100 grand, I win three grand.
That's three grand free, right?
libby emmons
Sure.
tim pool
Go for it.
And then right before the match, Khalif goes to his buddy and says, bet against me.
unidentified
That $100,000.
tim pool
And then, oh, and falls over.
And then boom, that $100,000, it becomes a million bucks.
Because Karine's odds was 10 to 1.
A $100 bet won you $1,000.
Now that's value.
Some people might be trying to make those value bets.
But I don't know if you guys who are watching have been able to Find those bets. I'm not suggesting a thousand dollar bet
to make $30.
unidentified
Yep. I don't know.
tayler hansen
The ROI.
tim pool
Well, some people are like, just put it in the stock market.
You like, you're less risky.
Yeah. But I think the betting thing kind of spells it out for everybody.
You can, when we look at prediction markets for elections, and you look at polling, amen, money talks, BS walks.
So a lot of people go to the polls and they'll be like, look at the polls, Kamala Harris is doing really, really well.
And then I'm like, yeah, look at Vegas.
Vegas doesn't like losing money.
And it's not the companies, it's the individuals who are making the bets.
We call that the wisdom of the crowd.
So in this regard, when the betting odds for this person go down to 1.03 or minus 3,333, All of society is basically saying, we understand why men should not fight women.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
They all know it.
And they're going to profit off of it.
libby emmons
Yeah, well, here we are.
tayler hansen
Tim, are you trying to say that there's biological differences between men and women and that the large majority of society realizes this?
tim pool
I was hanging out with some family friends and they had two kids, a boy and a girl, and then the dad was just like, you know I learned after having these kids that there's no question about the biological differences between boys and girls because at some point, for some reason, The boy started smashing things.
And we didn't teach him to do it.
And he doesn't watch the movies, he starts smashing things.
And then the slightly younger daughter started immediately picking up the dolls and running away to try and care for them.
And they were like, no one taught them to do that.
They just did it.
And I thought that was absolutely hilarious.
The little boy just started smashing stuff and beating the dolls.
And the little girl was like, no.
And she picked them up and ran away with them.
Well, there you go.
I don't know, man.
I don't know what you guys think is going to happen.
Or you don't look like big sports better.
So I don't know if you, if you care all that much.
hannah claire brimelow
I just want one of the athletes to come out and say like, I am trans or I am intersex, right?
Because I feel like that really changes the narrative here.
And again, I've seen mixed reporting where it's like, this person got expelled from the World Championship for boxing because of high testosterone levels.
And then other ones are saying, you know, male conditions at which they produce male and male markers.
And so it's, It seems like that would influence betting or just any kind of procedural situation here, right?
It doesn't seem as straightforward as just like, this person is trans and therefore is clearly biologically male.
libby emmons
But maybe I'm nuanced here.
Would you imagine growing up and being raised female and then realizing that you're a male?
unidentified
No.
libby emmons
You hear these horror stories where someone has- That's like what happened to Castor Semenya.
unidentified
Right.
libby emmons
Thought he was female the whole time.
hannah claire brimelow
Otherwise presents as female.
libby emmons
Otherwise presents as female.
tayler hansen
And has Benjamin Button.
libby emmons
And it makes you start to wonder, like, what about Brittany Griner, who looks very male and has, you know, mainly male characteristics.
hannah claire brimelow
Right.
You hear these stories of, like, girls being, like, 18, being like, oh, I've never gotten my period, and goes to the doctor, and then they, like, discover that person has internal testes.
libby emmons
Or has, yeah, or, like, some, like, gonadal streaks is a thing, where you don't even have anything, really.
hannah claire brimelow
It's crazy.
libby emmons
It's very confusing.
Yeah.
It could be very bizarre.
tayler hansen
The Olympics and all these sports areas, they've backed themselves into a complete corner now of where I don't think you're ever going to be able to get rid of people that identify, you know, one way fighting in these sports against women or just full blown males beating women.
I think we've reached a point in society where this is just the new normal and now domestic violence is basically just...
On display for everybody to see and now it's celebrated too.
So we've reached a very weird spot in the world where I think this is just going to continue getting worse until there's some sort of, I'll use the terminology, great reset or something drastic happens or somebody dies in the ring, you know, because that's what it's going to lead to.
libby emmons
We were talking last night about someone who, a girl who was paralyzed by a trans player playing volleyball.
tayler hansen
Volleyball.
unidentified
Yep.
libby emmons
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
libby emmons
And that's just, that's just insane.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
libby emmons
You know?
But yeah, I do think that a huge part of this is that we've pushed this so far as a culture that we've gotten to the point where we have now effectively done the thing that has been propagandized this whole time, which is we can no longer tell the difference between men and women.
unidentified
Right.
libby emmons
We can't tell the difference.
And we can't tell the difference enough to determine who should play against each other in the most celebrated sporting competitions in the world.
We can't tell enough to determine who should be called mother half the time now.
It's all very perplexing and we've done this to ourselves.
We have destroyed We have destroyed our culture.
And it's funny, when I first started looking into this and seeing this all spring up, you know, in like 2010, you know, I first started writing about this in satirical plays.
During that time, I think the first one was like, Did it a little bit.
But anyway, it was finished 2013 and we performed it and stuff.
And everyone thought that I was crazy.
I talked to my mom and she'd be like, that's nuts.
And I'd be like, we're moving to a place of erasing women, you know, and we have successfully erased women because we can no longer define women.
hannah claire brimelow
That's what Phyllis Schlafly said when she was campaigning against the Equal Rights Amendment, right?
libby emmons
She said it's not about equality for men and women, it's about the deletion of- And Kamala Harris and Josh Shapiro and all of the rest of them, they want the Equal Rights Amendment.
tim pool
So someone superchatted that's on FanDuel, and so I just downloaded it.
It is minus 320 odds.
That means, hey, it's not bad.
$100 bet wins you $31.
That's not bad.
tayler hansen
I wonder if it's going to drop significantly by the time the fight actually happens.
tim pool
Especially now with me saying it.
tayler hansen
Everybody's going to be running a fan duel really quick.
tim pool
I am not suggesting anyone make bets on this stuff because, like I mentioned, you don't know.
And it's not like there's a guarantee this person wins just because they may have testosterone or whatever.
But interesting nonetheless.
Nonetheless, now Mon Calife's next opponent, Anna Luka-Hamori, is not scared.
This is the story from the New York Post.
You should be.
First Hungarian Olympic boxer faces Calife in the quarterfinal Saturday and expresses
that she has no fear.
unidentified
I just kind of feel like this looks like a guy.
tim pool
You know, but that's just me.
I'm not trying to be mean, but she didn't care.
So this is another part of the issue I was bringing up very early on.
you.
No one supports men in women's sports more than the women who choose to participate in those sports.
Riley Gaines quit and has spoken out to a great degree and has continued to advocate against this.
Taylor Silverman, who skates with us at the boonies, has spoken out against this time and time again.
So I respect and I support the women and men who are calling out males competing against females.
These women want to do it.
Honest question, seriously.
Should I tell Anna Luka Hamori she should not be allowed to choose to fight against a male?
tayler hansen
Well, you know it's going to reach, like, peak pinnacle once we get to the point of where the NFL draft, you know, you start seeing women.
That's where I feel like it's, like, I mean, the pinnacle of all of this is women serving in war.
And we've already started to see that in places like Ukraine.
I mean, we're going to start literally sending our women off to die.
libby emmons
Maternity flight suits.
And also, I mean, there is a female kicker.
You know, that's a thing.
tim pool
Yo, Lin Yu-Ting's odds are minus 1,450.
$1,450. Wow. Wow. That means you win like $6 for a $100 bet.
unidentified
Wow.
libby emmons
There is a campaign that was just launched, a fund from Jennifer Say, who did XXXY
Athletics. And it's a fund to support women athletes who are speaking out against men in
their sports so that there's not the... It's like what you did with Taylor, you know, so that it's
not a monetary penalty that you get.
tim pool
I've got to stress it again, man.
You can fool some of the people some of the time, you can fool all the people some of the time, but you can't fool all the people all the time.
And when you look at betting odds, you could do a man on the street and go to New York, and I guarantee you're getting a bunch of these progressives in Times Square being like, yeah, I think it's great, I think it's fine.
Then you say, okay, wanna make a bet?
Make a bet.
That's a video for you, you should do that.
Be like, put down 100 bucks right now on the woman to beat the man, do it.
They're gonna be like, no way.
I'm like, I don't wanna give away money.
libby emmons
Yeah, why would you do that?
tim pool
All right, so let's jump to this story.
Donald Trump is speaking out.
Trump vows to keep men out of women's sports following Kerani's forfeit in Olympics boxing match.
Kerani says, I've never felt a punch like this.
Donald Trump just truth.
I will keep men out of women's sports.
Wow, man.
This gender ideology stuff made it to the Olympics, the international stage.
We've been warning about this.
It happened several years ago, because Tokyo Olympics allowed it to.
libby emmons
Laurel Hubbard.
tim pool
What was that one about?
libby emmons
Laurel Hubbard was the New Zealand weightlifter.
tim pool
Oh, right, the weightlifter.
unidentified
Yeah.
libby emmons
Who then, like, his arms, like, snapped backwards.
And everyone was like, see, he didn't win.
So it doesn't matter.
It's still equitable.
But the fact of the matter is that he took the opportunities from the young women who could have competed.
hannah claire brimelow
But in that case, too, that person was openly trans.
Like, born, for sure, everyone agreed, male, trans.
Whereas, like, again, I feel like this situation seems weirdly ambiguous.
Why wouldn't we just say trans or not, you know?
libby emmons
Well, but if they're not trans and they're just men, they should also not be in women's sports.
tayler hansen
I think it's even worse if they're just full-blown men because they have higher levels of people that are trans.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
tayler hansen
When it comes to DHT, you know, testosterone, whole nine yards.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, this is why I thought that, like, again, if we go back to the South African sprinter, like, intersex people have – they're very rare, but they compete at the Olympic level and they had, you know, requirements to lower their testosterone level.
Like, I feel like this is such a weird situation where, like, has the standards for boxing changed where they're no longer required to take these hormone shots or birth control, you know.
It's such a weird situation to me where all of this has become conflated where one, to me, is like a serious medical complication if you're born with XX chromosomes, if you have testes in your body as well as other genitalia, or if you know that you are biologically male and you decide, well, I'm going to join the Women's League.
I've decided that's a better fit for me.
I mean, they're similar, but they are not interchangeable to me.
And again, like, either one is serious, right?
We should have serious rules about them.
But instead, it's all like, what can we do to accommodate people who identify as trans?
And that's what's frustrating.
Because they're not the same thing.
I don't know.
tayler hansen
No, it should be 100% illegal, through and through.
I like that Trump said something about it.
I mean, you should literally be charging this man for beating up a woman, in my opinion.
tim pool
This is insane.
I disagree.
I disagree.
libby emmons
She's stepped into the ring.
tim pool
If a woman says, I'd like to enter a baseball game with a man, are we going to be like, no, that's not allowed.
Women aren't allowed to play baseball with men.
But what if the guy pitches so fast and so hard and it hits her and it breaks her arm and she gets hurt?
Of course, there's a difference in combat sports, but I'm more libertarian as long as people are informed and they know exactly what they're up against and they choose to enter that ring.
I'm not a conservative.
I'm not going to sit here and be like, we don't allow this.
I'm going to be like, people can choose to live the lives they want to live within certain boundaries.
And if an individual is in sports and they want to choose to fight, because imagine there's like a female who is just one of the best, the best, the best, and wants to go up against a male to see if they can actually hang, but they're actually a really strong, capable female.
That's their choice.
Now, the issue at hand is, female sports, the athletes don't have a say.
The governing bodies are doing this to them, and many of them are complaining about it, and they have no choice.
So, for instance, with Riley Gaines, I guess she said that she tied with William Thomas, or whatever?
And they said, well, we're going to put him up on the podium instead of you.
For political reasons.
See, that's a problem.
Telling women they have no say in the matter, in their own leagues, in their own sporting events, is wrong.
And so that's the problem here.
This is why I'm critical of Karine.
So someone superchatted that she's being sarcastic.
Well, unfortunately, that doesn't translate, and I don't know if she was being sarcastic, saying, I wish her the best to make it all the way to the end and that she's happy.
Maybe she was like, I hope she makes it to the end.
I hope she's happy.
Could have been... I don't know.
I don't know why she'd say, I hope she makes it to the end.
libby emmons
Yeah, I mean, why would you want that?
tim pool
So I will criticize the IOC, the Olympics, the league.
I will agree with Donald Trump.
I don't know exactly what Trump will do.
What will Trump do?
libby emmons
Well, look what Biden did.
tim pool
Title IX enforcement?
libby emmons
All he has to do is reverse everything that Biden did, because nothing Biden did went through Congress.
Everything he did was by an executive order, and he signed all these executive orders on the same day as he reversed all of Trump's executive orders.
So all Trump would have to do, you know, would be to sign an executive order saying, that's it, get rid of everything you did under the LGBTQIA+.
Gender inclusion thing for federal agencies, because what happened was Biden signed the executive order requiring all federal agencies to have extra inclusion for, you know, the whole alphabet soup.
And every federal agency had, I think, 180 days to come back with their plan for what they would do.
And the Department of Education said, OK, we're going to revise Title IX so that Every time it says sex in Title IX, what they mean is gender identity, and that's per the Bostock ruling, right?
Which, even in the Bostock ruling, which said that you couldn't discriminate against trans persons in employment because that's discrimination on the basis of sex, whoever wrote the opinion, I think it was Gorsuch who wrote the opinion, said this is not meant to be a catch-all for everything such as bathrooms, locker rooms, and Title IX, you know?
So all the federal agencies under Biden interpreted Bostock to mean it was a catch-all and inclusive of everything.
So DOE revised Title IX so that men could be in women's locker rooms, and they're still working on having men required to be in women's sports.
The Department of Agriculture said no free school lunches for school districts that don't let boys into girls' bathrooms.
HHS said, OK, we're going to force all the insurance companies to cover trans medicine and surgeries for everybody, including minors.
So every federal agency came back to Biden with how they're going to force LGBTQ gender ideology into every facet of American life.
And it was all because of executive order, so all Trump would have to do is reverse it.
tim pool
It's already illegal.
Title IX.
Civil Rights Act already made all this stuff.
All the DEI stuff is illegal.
libby emmons
Totally illegal.
tim pool
And this is what's fascinating, and that's why I say culture matters so much more.
So I hope everybody understands when I say winning a culture war matters more than winning politics.
It's already illegal.
You cannot have segregated spaces.
We saw in Seattle they did the DEI space for POC and non-POC or whatever.
Illegal.
How come there's no enforcement?
Because the right doesn't have the cultural authority to do anything about it.
It's the racists, the Democrats, who have the cultural authority, and police won't enforce this.
Lawsuits won't happen.
Trump doesn't need to do anything.
He just needs to get in and then say, we are going to enforce, at the federal level, these 109.
Have an attorney general file lawsuits against any one of these organizations that allows this.
libby emmons
Yeah, every single one.
And there already are injunctions against the implementation of the new Title IX rules in a whole bunch of districts because there's a case pending.
And so in the states where people who have taken that case are, there's an injunction against it and it can't go forward.
tayler hansen
I'm glad you mentioned culture being more important than politics, because it really is.
And I've seen it more and more on the ground as the years of my reporting.
I love the breaking news stuff.
The breaking news stuff is very important.
It always goes viral.
But the cultural stuff is the stuff that people don't pay attention to.
And literally my reporting in San Francisco at Pride, we have naked men bragging about being naked in front of kids saying it's good for kids and that they deserve to see it because it's the natural human body.
And then you have the kiddie pool where you have men- Urinating in each other's mouths.
And I talked to the cops, and they literally say we're not enforcing it because it's a pick-your-battles day.
That is culture that has been cultivated in San Francisco.
libby emmons
Yeah, I mean, we've been seeing this, you know, in my previous life doing art.
This was all happening in the late 2000s and the early 2010s, and it was happening very thoroughly.
I got into a disagreement with the women in the feminist theater collective that I was working in.
When we were trying to hire a composer and we were saying, well, you know, we're, this is just a women's project.
We're just all women working on this project.
And the director said, well, women are women identified.
And I was like, you want to get a fella in a dress to be our composer?
Why?
There's a ton of good women composers.
We don't need to like, go get a man.
And we had a huge disagreement over whether that should happen or not.
And that was like, Like 2015, you know?
2016, something like that, that we were doing this.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, feminism isn't battling itself over the issue of, like, are men who say they're women actually part of the team?
libby emmons
They're destroying themselves.
And when I would bring this up to people who were not in the arts, they would say, oh, that's never gonna happen, that's never gonna break out.
And it's like, this stuff was beginning, and I was calling attention to it.
And I was like complaining about it in the arts to my friends way back when and now it's at the Olympics.
Do you know what I mean?
Like, yes, culture is way more important than politics.
It's been more important than politics this whole time.
And the right just doesn't get on board with that.
tim pool
It's a floodgate.
I mean, the argument is Algeria and Taiwan don't have transgender categories.
They don't allow people to change their passports.
So these individuals were presumed to be female when they were born.
And so we have to figure that out.
And that's what they're saying.
They're female.
It's like, no, no, no, they're male.
They just thought they were female.
And that's fine.
That's actually the left's argument, that some people can be assigned improperly.
We later find out through genetics testing and hormone testing.
So with this, we are literally going to have countries that do allow passport changing.
The United States.
That's right.
And the Olympics says that's the criteria.
What does your passport say?
So do you want to win the Olympics?
You get a gold medal worth a thousand bucks.
You know?
Why not?
tayler hansen
At this rate, I might become an Olympic athlete, because if it's gonna be this easy... What sport are you gonna take up?
Might as well.
I mean, boxing seems like a good one, honestly.
It seems like a pretty, uh, fairly easy one, or weightlifting would be fantastic.
You can, uh, we all know men are stronger than women, so... Just get your passport changed.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
tim pool
Because it's easy in the United States.
And then... You're gonna qualify very easily.
tayler hansen
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, the state... We're gonna win all the gold medals for the USA, baby.
hannah claire brimelow
And the USA pays for gold medals.
tim pool
Oh, let's... I mean, you might win... I'm in.
You might win every match by forfeiture, Yeah.
tayler hansen
Yeah, but that's okay.
tim pool
Doesn't matter.
Qualifier's qualifier.
Let's jump to the story from SCNR.
Vice President Harris now beating former President Trump on predicted election betting.
Predicted is a large online political prediction market, often called a stock market for politics.
I'm going to call it now 49 state landslide Kamala Harris.
You heard it here from Tim Pool.
Look at this.
Predicted says Kamala Harris is going to win, baby.
We know it.
The polls General election polls from Civics and Daily Kos, which is far left.
Kamala Harris is up four.
And then I think we have another one.
This is Polly Market betting odds showing that in only about two weeks, Trump's odds went from 64% to Kamala's 29% to Trump 54, Kamala 44.
And that is as of, I believe, just, is this today?
I believe it's today.
No, it's yesterday night.
So Trump is sinking in the prediction market.
Kamala is on the rise.
And we've got this from 538.
This is Nate Silver's new Silver Bulletin.
When it was Joe Biden, he said, the election isn't a toss-up.
Biden can't win.
Today, he says the presidential election is a toss-up.
His new model has this map.
All right.
Well, based on the leanings here, Chance of winning, Pennsylvania, is leaning slightly towards Trump.
Then you've got Michigan, Harris.
Wisconsin, Harris.
So it looks like right now actually, so this puts Trump in the favorite position to win, 287 to 251.
But Pennsylvania is slim margins, and that's why she's likely going to pick Shapiro, which gives her 270 to win.
I'm calling it I, you know, it's not really a 49 state landslide, but it looks like Kamala Harris is going to win.
tayler hansen
Well, and it's worrisome.
The fact that we went from, you know, we knew Trump was going to absolutely smash Biden in every single way.
And then they prop up Kamala.
And then now you see this massive shift and a lot of it could be manufactured, but I'm worried that it isn't, you know, you see, I will say, you know, I saw some reporting from the make the stallion concert and man, what, how far are we?
hannah claire brimelow
Are you sad to have not been on the ground for that?
tayler hansen
So sad, because it was hilarious.
It's like, how far have we fallen as a society that, you know, you have chicks twerking on stage, being vulgar, to open for a presidential candidate?
And it says a lot.
And you know, the fact that if America elects Kamala, I think we're cooked.
I really do.
And it's sad.
I try not to black pill.
libby emmons
I think it's a little disconcerting as well.
And you also have a thing where like you were talking about it being manufactured and perhaps it's not manufactured.
I think right now it is a hundred percent a propaganda machine, but there's a reason that propaganda is perpetrated and it's because it's effective.
So all it needs to do is perpetrate enough.
All it needs to do is sink in enough and suddenly, you know, it has been manufactured.
Yes, but that doesn't mean it's not going to work.
tayler hansen
Well, we saw this in 2020, and I think this is the hardest the media machine has worked in a very, very long time.
They're working overtime.
libby emmons
And they're lying so hard.
Like, there's so many lies.
And part of the problem, too, is as conservative and independent media outlets, we have been so effectively sidelined, and the narrative has been so entrenched on the left and in, you know, the popular media and stuff, that it's very hard for us to break through.
And it's not just hard for us to break through, it's hard for us to be found by readers and viewers who want to, you know, bust the narrative, who are starting to ask questions.
tayler hansen
Well, if X didn't exist, if Elon Musk hadn't bought it, we would be dead in the water.
tim pool
We'd be even more screwed.
tayler hansen
We'd be absolutely screwed.
They'd win every election in a landslide.
And the way that you see the sidelining of real media, it speaks a lot on how I think this next election is going to go.
tim pool
Something doesn't quite make sense here at Predict It, because they've got Kamala at $0.54, yes, and Trump at $0.50, yes, and then RfK at $0.02, and then a bunch of single cents.
So my understanding is that it's supposed to equal a dollar.
The idea being that if you were to buy a share of Trump at $0.50 and he wins, then that share is worth $1 to cash out.
So how does this make sense?
Well, it basically means right now if you bought both Kamala and Trump, then you're... What does that mean?
You're looking at a guaranteed win?
You could bet on both of them?
libby emmons
That's weird.
hannah claire brimelow
Somebody's screaming Uniparty somewhere.
tim pool
No, I guess not.
Because Kamala's gonna pay you out from $0.54.
She's the favorite.
So you're gonna get an additional, you know, $0.46 on every $0.54 you bet.
For Trump, it's $0.50 on $0.50.
So I guess if they were both slightly lower, you're guaranteed to win.
You just bet on both.
tayler hansen
I think Trump is making a fatal mistake, too, in the way that he's campaigning.
One, he's not on X. It would be massively different if he was on X. I think he better just come back.
He needs to come back.
He needs to put true social away in the pocket.
It's insane that he is still making all his statements on that platform.
It makes me think he almost doesn't want to win at this point, especially with all the energy that's behind Kamala.
And then he's going to black journalist conventions, which, granted, hilarious.
I think it was funny.
There was a lot of memes out of it, but memes aren't going to win you an election.
This isn't 2016.
He needs to be catering to his base, which is white males, and we never see that.
We always hear the talk of the black vote, the Latino vote, all these things, but you never hear the word white.
At the debate, I remember literally sitting there watching it with my wife, and the amount of times that, oh, black Americans this, black Americans that, but they didn't say anything about a white American a single time throughout the debate.
And it just confuses me on, you know, the aspect of why are you catering to a demographic that is not going to vote for you instead of the demographic that is going to overwhelmingly try and put you in office?
hannah claire brimelow
I agree with you.
And some polling shows that he's actually been losing support among like rural white voters.
So it's interesting because it does seem like this is almost taking for granted, which we've accused the Democrats of doing with, you know, voters of color and like voters in the Bronx and stuff like that.
I have this kind of weird feeling, which is like, I'm almost glad that it's back to being competitive.
Because when it was so clear that Trump was going to dominate Biden, there is a like morale raising effect.
On the other hand, conservatives, Republicans get so complacent.
And I almost think there is a benefit in back to having to say like, You have to work for this.
You have to earn the voters.
We have to go back to the drawing board, reevaluate how Donald Trump is campaigning.
We have to be serious about winning this.
And part of that is getting people to the polls.
You know, I just think I know so many people like, well, if he's going to win, I won't even go.
Like, that's what frustrates me.
I do think that Donald Trump is doing a bad job of playing into the media cycle, like you both mentioned, they're
really lockstep Kamala Harris this, those, you know, those two white guys on the
Republican ticket are bad, and just hammering everything home. Whereas I feel like,
actually, Trump should stop doing stuff with mainstream media, and we should stop talking to
them for a while he should only go to alternative outlets and independent because
number one, they've been them been there for him for a long time. And also, it's the only way
to break this iron grip they have on.
libby emmons
You make a really good point because if Trump started just doing things with, you know,
Tim cast and post millennial and tenant and daily wire and all of the other dailies out
there, and then the mainstream legacy outlets would have to cover what does what all of
us little guys are doing and that would be a way that, you know, but they they don't
hannah claire brimelow
No, they don't want to do that.
And to your point, like, yeah, maybe it would be more effective if you get more direct punches if Trump were on X. On the other hand, the reason true social work is because everyone had to go there to hear from him, right?
And so in some ways, like, he should come on platforms like this.
He should talk to Post Malone.
He should talk to small local newspapers.
He should never grant a major outlet an interview again because it completely shifts back to the populist nature of his campaign.
It's ridiculous to say, like, I mean, like, it's fine if you want to go campaign on race issues, you want to go to the Black Professionals event and whatever, but I just don't think that's as effective as returning to the populist roots and saying, I don't want to talk to, you know, the corporate elites or people who are being presented by them.
I want to talk to people who are my key core supporters all the way through.
libby emmons
That's what Charlie Kirk keeps saying, is like, go hard on the base and get the base out.
Just get the base out.
Just do that.
tim pool
Well, that's why Trump said, Christians, my beautiful Christians, I'm a Christian, you gotta vote for me.
You gotta come out, you gotta vote just this once, you gotta vote for me, and then you never gotta do it again, I'll fix it so good you'll never have to vote again.
tayler hansen
And the media said he was being a dictator.
That's right.
tim pool
That's why he said it, because he's like...
Yo, they don't vote.
libby emmons
No.
tim pool
Conservatives don't vote.
tayler hansen
Well, that's the problem with conservatism, too.
It's like, what are you conserving if you're not willing to actually go out and vote for your candidate?
libby emmons
It's insane.
Because politics isn't our religion, you know?
tayler hansen
And I get that, but it's like, if you want to actually have effective religious beliefs, you want abortion restrictions, you want all these things as a Christian, you need to have a candidate that's willing to do it.
And if you're not going to vote, you're never going to have one.
tim pool
Libby, you are correct.
That for the left, this is their church.
And so the polling station is them tithing.
It's their church.
And for the right, they're like, I'm going to go to church.
But that's shocking to me because imagine having a mandate from God himself.
And then you're like, but I'm not gonna participate.
tayler hansen
Well, literally, in the Christian faith, we are called to try and make the world essentially as Christian as we can.
We're supposed to bring as many people to heaven with us as possible, and we're supposed to instate policies.
We are literally required to instate policies that reflect our faith.
But now you see this almost...
tim pool
Basically cucked out version of Christianity and we saw it at the Olympics you see it all around the world people criticize Christianity and mock Christianity on a level that we've never seen before but you never see the same energy for Islam or Judaism or other religions because people realize that modern-day Christianity these people aren't gonna stand up for what they believe in they're not gonna actually vote their beliefs in that's all it is and I'll stress this too You know, after the Olympic scandal, with the opening ceremony mocking the Last Supper and Christianity, many people made the point that they would never do this with Islam, and so did I. But I got no beef with Islam on this one.
They did not insult Christianity.
Certainly the Abrahamic religions are at odds often, but they didn't say anything.
No, no, no, I'm mad with the left.
In claiming that it's hate speech, you're not allowed to offend us, but then they decide that they can't offend.
However, we know why they wouldn't ever dare offend Islam.
It gets bombed.
It's because Islam is not going to accept it, be it as extreme as a terror attack.
We saw what happened with Charlie Hebdo.
We saw what happened with that.
But Christians won't do anything.
And I'm not saying anything near as crazy as that.
I'm saying they don't vote!
You'd think that seeing the Olympics would light a fire under every Christian in this nation, even if they're non-practitioners, to be like, wow, things are getting out of hand.
I better go vote.
I'm hoping that's the case.
I'm hoping that's the case.
tayler hansen
I can tell you right now it isn't, because I did a man on the street the other day, literally in Utah, which granted, a lot of people are LDS.
Personally, I wouldn't classify that as Christian, but they believe in Jesus Christ.
They believe in the Holy Trinity.
They like Jesus Christ.
And I talked to a lot of these people, and I showed them this image where they watched the ceremony, and they're like, no, it's not mocking God.
And it's like, how is that not mocking Christians?
When it's literally on display, the lead organizer of that, the girl that was in the middle, posted on her Instagram story saying it was a Last Supper, and that they were mocking it directly.
But you have a lot of Christians that are just scared to stand up.
And I really don't understand it.
As somebody, I vote, I do all the things, I want my values instated.
We see that with Islam.
I mean, look at what's going on in Europe right now.
They're quite literally They're taking over, their religion is taking over completely, and it's because they believe their value should be instated in the government, and that's what's wrong with modern day Christians.
And it's disheartening as one, because it's like, when are you guys going to stand up?
hannah claire brimelow
I think part of it is that we have a lot of Christians in name only, right?
People who maybe went to church on Easter and Christmas, and they would say, they would check the box saying they're Christian, but they don't practice at all.
doesn't actually help them frame their decision making.
These are often the same people who are saying like, I don't, I'm so lost in life.
I don't know what my purpose is.
I feel incomplete.
unidentified
Right?
hannah claire brimelow
Like there are people who know they are lacking something, but also don't actually pursue any sort of religious,
religious practice.
They're the ones saying, oh, well, no, Joe Biden is Catholic.
He's definitely Catholic, right?
He's for sure.
He's for abortion, but that's fine.
I mean, they would never hold themselves to a standard because they don't actually want to have to adhere to these higher ways of life.
libby emmons
There was an interesting thing where, wasn't it like the Archbishop of San Francisco or something like that was saying that he wouldn't give Nancy Pelosi communion because of her stance on abortion?
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, a couple of them have.
libby emmons
Yeah, so I was in and people were like horrified that the Archbishop would do that.
I was in the Chicago Art Institute recently.
And is it that where it was?
Anyway, there was a there was this big painting of this, this knight being excommunicated because he wouldn't apologize and look for forgiveness for having committed some Horrible war atrocities.
So there is precedent for just kicking people out because of what they do in their public life.
And it's interesting that Catholics don't, you know, Catholics for a very long time do not stand up for that.
And I think a lot of that goes back to disagreements over birth control and abortion.
tayler hansen
Well, I'm glad that you mentioned, you know, Christians in name only, because that is—sadly, it is the largest population of Christians in the world.
I'm pretty sure it's something along the lines of over 80% of Christians don't read their Bible.
And it may be once a year, which is absolutely insane.
That is your book of faith that is God's Word, and you're not going to read your Bible.
Instead, you say, no, I'm Christian, I believe in Christ, you know, but they never actually practice the values.
Happy to actually see it.
It was funny.
They literally did the meme of where you have all the raging leftists and all the abortionists on one side screeching, and then it's the Muslim and the Christian standing together.
And it's like, together?
Yes.
And Andrew Tate and Tristan Tate came out in Romania, and they held a little mock protest.
And they had the visual of the Last Supper and then what happened at the Olympics.
And it's like, that's what we need.
We're more similar to Muslims.
And I don't support their religion, but at least they respect Jesus Christ and they're anti-abortion.
And, you know, you need to be essentially voting in the polls like Islam does, and they do.
I mean, they've taken over France, they've taken over all these places, but Christians are just too scared to actually come out and be real Christians.
hannah claire brimelow
There were a lot of Muslim parents, I believe, in Michigan who protested against the transgender ideology being brought into schools, right?
Like, there are things that they are saying we're not willing to tolerate because of our religious beliefs.
And I don't know why, when Christians do that, they get so embarrassed.
tayler hansen
There's literally a place in Florida, I forget the name of it, where Muslims banned the use of pride flags and trans flags in their city.
They banned all of that, and then you had a bunch of people freaking out.
libby emmons
Was that in Hammantrank?
tayler hansen
I think so.
It's somewhere fairly close.
It's like an hour away from Port Charlotte area.
But I think something in Michigan did too.
But even in Florida, you see them doing this time and time again, but Christians are like, oh no, inclusivity, that's okay.
We need to turn the other cheek.
And they're reading the Bible wrong.
tim pool
Well, ladies and gentlemen, let's jump to this story.
We have this from The Hill.
Progressive sound alarm as Shapiro VP stock rises.
So I think this may be the story here.
Governor Josh Shapiro cancels trip to the Hamptons amid speculation over him being picked as Kamala Harris running mate.
I think it is a strong probability that this man will be the VP pick for Kamala Harris.
Reason being, it's Pennsylvania.
She wants to win that state.
She wants to get a big bump there.
Trump is currently slightly ahead, so it makes sense.
Only one big problem for Democrats.
He's Jewish.
Oof.
Progressives, sound alarm!
I wonder why they are mad.
One letter signed by nearly 50 progressive leaders pointed to Shapiro's shortcomings as a national candidate and urged the vice president to consider Kentucky Governor Andy Beshear, Minnesota Governor Tim Walz instead.
Gee, I wonder- I wonder what they're concerned about with Shapiro.
advance mega threat, we simply can't afford any setbacks.
A letter from another progressive group known as VP Unity said Harris' consideration of
Shapiro has set off alarm bells among young voters, Muslims, Arab Americans, and activists.
Gee, I wonder what they're concerned about with Shapiro.
Is there anything that, hmm.
Some progressive critics of Shapiro say his response to the pro-Palestinian protests in
PA, which they labeled as heavy-handed, could impact the Harris-Shapiro ticket more negatively
than his views on the Israel-Hamas war more generally.
tayler hansen
It's going to be very interesting to see how the DNC turns out.
I'm going to be there on the ground.
And I think the precursor of how that's going to go was the anti-Netanyahu protest in DC a week ago.
tim pool
Do you need body armor?
tayler hansen
I have body armor, but I'll always take some more.
What level is it?
It's level 3A, so no rifle defense, but handguns.
tim pool
We've got some flexible rifle armor systems.
You know what that is?
It's multi-plated ceramic.
Oh, I'll take it.
So it can withstand multiple rifle rounds.
tayler hansen
I'll take it.
The wife will be very pleased with that.
She's been talking to me, she's like, give me some plates.
tim pool
So you know, plates typically can handle about one, if you're lucky, maybe more.
But the flexible rifle armor system is, it's octagonal ceramic plates all separated, so when one shatters, so long as you don't get hit in the same spot again, the other ones, and you may need it.
tayler hansen
Yeah, I'm gonna take you up on that.
No, I think this is the perfect opportunity for something to happen, is at the DNC, and I think we're going to see something happen, whether it's low-scale riots, somebody getting hurt or actually killed, and especially... They're gonna break in.
Or they're going to break in because the security isn't going to be as tight as it was at the RNC with Trump there.
So there's a lot of possibilities of what's going to happen.
tim pool
A lot of reporters are going to be on the ground.
tayler hansen
But if they pick Shapiro when that pro-Palestinian crowd is outside, man, I can't even imagine the chaos that's going to ensue.
tim pool
Oh, there's going to be fires, and probably worse.
I think, was it 2020?
It was virtual because of COVID.
But 2016, they actually, so this is really funny, at the RNC in 2016 is boring.
I thought the RNC would have more protests.
I was at the RNC in 2012, and the DNC, and the protests were both kind of meh.
And we thought it would be bigger because of Occupy.
2016, I thought RNC would be a lot bigger because of the way things were going with Donald Trump.
Nope.
There was a march.
So whatever.
Nothing really happened.
Went inside, looked around.
What was it?
Jimmy Dore spit on Alex Jones.
So you know that happened.
Yeah.
And then at the DNC that year, they had much taller barricades, and the far left were there in the thousands, and they were rioting.
And they were trying to jump the barricades.
I think they actually did jump the barricades, and it was chaos.
And it was actually surprising.
I was like, I didn't realize the DNC was going to be the crazier one, but it's because they shafted Bernie Sanders.
So now I'm wondering what the progressives are going to say when there wasn't even a primary, when they completely shut out any possibility of a progressive candidate and installed Kamala Harris.
tayler hansen
No, and I think that the biggest concern with them is going to be the fact that they realize that this administration, no matter what, is going to be pro-Israel.
And we know that this is the exact opposite of what this crowd currently protesting is advocating for with the Netanyahu stuff.
And I think we're going to see some violence break out, but especially at the DNC.
It's going to be very concentrated.
And all you need to know about this movement is it's literally 2020 all over again when it comes with BLM is there, Antifa is there.
I literally saw Lisa Fithian, who is a very renowned organizer, You know, I got a video of her, like, any time that something goes wrong, Lisa Fithian is there, and she is going to be there.
I have seen her time and time again at the protests that turned full-scale riots, and this is all the same movement.
They attach themselves, Antifa and BLM, to any organization or any movement that they see some sort of revolution taking place in.
And literally, the UCLA coverage that I did, the organization, the tactics that they were using, Passing umbrellas, passing wood for shields and protection, the way that they attack and organize against cops.
This is Antifa.
It's not full-scale 2020 yet, but it's gonna get there.
tim pool
Let me ask you a question, you young whippersnapper.
How old are you?
unidentified
24.
24 years old.
tim pool
You know, I'll tell you, back in the day, when I was 25, talking 13 years ago, And I'm down at Occupy Wall Street.
I had my run-ins at these events with Antifa.
We didn't call them Antifa at the time.
We called them Black Bloc, because they weren't really aligned with anything.
They weren't anarchists.
They claimed to be, but they weren't really.
Lisa Fithian was down there.
And there was a group that we referred to as the Tourists.
These were activists that appeared at every protest all across the country and internationally.
And we often wondered how it could be that some random leftist marching in the street of New York was in Turkey.
And they were!
And they were in China, too.
And that was very strange.
When I saw one of these tourists marching at a protest in China, they were posting the videos.
I was just like...
How is how in China of all places?
Now, the Turkey one was hilarious because I'm just I'm just thinking like these
people are CIA, dude.
Yep. Like you're you're you're in Turkey.
Several of these same people.
It's a coincidence.
Dude, spare me.
tayler hansen
Well, in least a fifth inning, especially her case is very weird because she's been
around for a very long time.
Like you said, she was around with Occupy even before that.
tim pool
She's like 67 years old.
tayler hansen
Yeah, and she is not stopping.
But seriously, almost any time that I have been in a full-scale riot that kicks off very fastly and aggressively, Lisa is somewhere to be found.
There's a picture of her snapped.
You run into her on the ground.
I had a confrontation with her in 2020 about the Sunrise Zoom calls.
And you know, then, of course, she just threatened me and said she should have brought her pepper spray a whole nine yards.
But it's like the same people.
There's no coincidences when it comes to organizing a riot.
These people are probably working for intel agencies of some sort.
tim pool
What they do, and I can tell you this first hand having been at these organizing meetings, is a small group of individuals planning what they call direct action will say, how many people do we expect to have on this day?
Okay.
The plans usually break down to slightly more complicated than this, because they'll say something like, once we get to Fifth Avenue, we'll make a left, blah, blah, blah.
But they usually revolve around, at this time, we're gonna have one of our guys go into the middle of the crowd and throw a bottle at the police.
And that will cause the police to attack the crowd.
Now, what they do is, they'll go to the university, and they'll say, hey, why don't you join our peaceful march for insert cause?
These people will be like, sure.
They'll then show up on the day of and they'll go to people and be like, hey, are you going to come to the march?
It's going to be a lot of fun.
It's a peaceful march in support of this.
You support this, don't you?
They rally as many people as possible to show up.
These are normie college students who don't really pay attention, have heard a little bit in school about, you know, patriarchy or something.
And then they're marching down the streets doing nothing.
Their people are chanting.
They have no idea what they're chanting.
My favorite story that I love to tell is when they were chanting Antica Pitalista, anti-capitalist, and the group was saying gibberish.
And I was filming one guy who was like, Antiba Bida Bisto.
And I was like, what are you saying?
And he's like, oh, I'm just chanting.
I was like, I know.
What did you say?
He's like, I don't know.
tayler hansen
That literally is exactly what's happening at these Palestinian protests right now.
tim pool
And what happens then is That's the goal of the direct action.
They want to get as many of these people who have no idea what's going on and are bored to show up.
Then, they will intentionally go into the middle of the crowd of normies, chuck a water bottle at the cops, the cops will then declare an unlawful assembly, and the people in front will be like, what?
And the cops will start shoving with their batons, and these 20-year-old women are going, I'm being hit!
I don't know why I'm being hit!
And then they're freaking out.
One of two things that happens.
In New York they do what's called kettling, where they will pull out a big orange net and wrap it around you and arrest the entire group, and send them to jail, or people will then be pushed by cops, hit, bruised a little bit, and leave.
In either circumstance, after the normie is struck by the cop, being totally confused as to what happened, that's when the far leftists come in and say, I saw that cop hit you!
Man, cops are evil, aren't they?
Or you'll get arrested and go to jail, And these young women, mostly young women, are in jail, but some young men, and they're confused and scared.
They've never been arrested before.
And the activists are in there with them, saying, this is what the system is like.
It's evil.
This is what they do.
They're evil.
You have to join us and fight against them.
And then they sing songs together.
They say, you're scared.
Don't worry.
Don't cry.
We're going to sing a song.
I love you.
And then they hug.
It is cult building 101.
And then these kids get out and they're just like, we're friends now.
Hey, come to our next meeting.
And that's how they recruit.
And that's how they build anti-U.S.
sentiment and leverage the police against the people.
One of the reasons they really hated me during Occupy was that I was live streaming everything.
And so they said to me, only film the police.
And I was like, I'm gonna film everything.
And they were like, okay, but don't film us.
I actually was at Deutsche Bank, and one of the activists grabbed me and said, hey, can I talk to you outside?
And he goes, look, man, just film the cops.
You're with us, right?
And I'm like, what do you mean am I with you?
And they're like, you want us to win?
And I'm like, win what, dude?
And he's like, we want to topple this.
We want to change things.
And I was like, okay, well, don't be evil.
And he's like, dude, The cops are evil too, so just film them and let us do our thing."
And I was like, I'm going to film literally everybody and let the people decide.
And so they were like, okay.
And then you can Google search it.
Tim Pool attacked at Occupy over and over and over again.
tayler hansen
No, I'm glad you, I'm glad you mentioned that and went into detail on how it works because not a lot, I mean, most people don't actually understand, but when you're a reporter and you're on the ground, you see it all the time.
People chanting.
Literally, they have no idea what they're even there for.
They were just dragged into it.
And, you know, I saw that firsthand at UCLA, where you had a lot of college normies.
You had people that literally weren't even students there, and they were just there because they were told to be there.
And then the police, you know, start attacking, even though they were, you know, organized first and attacked first.
And then now you have all these people getting slowly radicalized.
And especially in Portland, when it comes to the, they would always tell you, and in Portland's different, you have to dress up in black block.
They will attack you on sight if they see press, and they're not friendly at all.
And this is what led to me recording only on my cell phone, because why am I going to bring an expensive camera if they're just going to shatter and make me a target?
So you dress up in black block, and then you either talk to the police beforehand, let them know that you're going to be there, some sort of identifying mark that you have.
But my tactic, and other reporters', is you always turn your back on the police, because you're expected to only film the police, because they're the bad guys.
You basically show them a blue line flag or something along those lines.
So then they see you and they're like, okay, why is this guy flashing that?
It must be a reporter.
And it works.
But then a lot of the times when the attacking starts, and this is the whole purpose of what you call Antifa press, which they're everywhere.
And they're literally the docs, people that are real reporters and are actually going to document faces and document what's going on.
But then they spin the narrative afterwards because they're filming the police.
They show that what looks like the police attack, But they also just cut out the Molotov cocktail that was thrown right before that, or the multiple frozen water bottles, or the pee balloons, the feces balloons that, you know, Antifa Portland uses.
And I've seen it firsthand.
I mean, it happens at every single one of these things.
tim pool
There's a good example of this during Occupy Wall Street, where they made a video of a cop swinging his baton, but they changed it to a lightsaber.
And the cop is just wildly swinging at people, and it's crazy.
And the narrative they framed was cops violently attack peaceful protesters.
Of course, they cut out the first 10 seconds where they hit the cop first, where they were shaking the barricades in unison together, and then one guy knocked his head off.
He stumbles backwards, and then he holds his baton to the side and pushes them.
They push back.
He pushes them again.
They start pushing against him, so then he starts swinging, and they go, got him.
tayler hansen
This is the exact same thing that literally happened in DC like a week ago is the march.
I already knew something was going to happen.
You can get that feeling when you've been on the ground long enough.
And that first barrier outside the Capitol, I was like, this is the clinch point where something's going to happen.
And I'm standing there and then I, the police are perfectly fine.
Not gas masked up, not in riot gear, nothing.
They're just holding their bikes, holding the police line.
And then all of a sudden you see a few water bottles thrown at their heads.
and then you start seeing people get pushed to the front that aren't actually a part of the initial group attacking people and they start getting the pepper spray and then you keep seeing the water bottles and you see them throw their gas masks on and then it turns into a riot.
tim pool
We gotta jump to this story.
This is breaking.
U.S.
recognizes opposition candidate Gonzalez as the winner.
Venezuela's presidential election.
So if you thought this DNC was going to be crazy before, now you've got the U.S.
government claiming the socialist leader of Venezuela is a loser who cheated, and the real winner is Edmundo Gonzalez.
So this is going to fan the flames probably a little bit, but it will.
AP reports the U.S.
government on Thursday recognized Venezuelan opposition candidate Edmundo González as the winner of the South American country's presidential election, discrediting the results announced by electoral authorities who declared President Nicolas Maduro the victor.
Given the overwhelming evidence, it is clear to the U.S., and most importantly to Venezuelan people, that Edmundo González won the most votes in Venezuela's July 28th presidential election.
The National Electoral Council declared Maduro the winner of Sunday's highly anticipated election, but the president's main challenger, Gonzalez, and opposition leader, Maria Corina Machado, have said they obtained more than two-thirds of the tally sheets that each electronic voting machine printed after the polls closed.
They said the release of the data on those tallies would prove Maduro lost.
So what do you think happens now?
I mean, the U.S.
recognizes this doesn't change anything for the people in Venezuela.
Maduro is still gonna go massacre and arrest his opposition.
tayler hansen
Well, I think there was another country that came out and said that they don't recognize Maduro as the true winner, too.
So you're starting to see multiple countries come out.
tim pool
I think it's more than two, yeah.
tayler hansen
And it makes you wonder, you know, if there is something deeper going on with the CIA, some sort of coup, you know, if this candidate is propped up in a certain way.
But, I mean, Maduro, I'm not going to defend him.
The guy is garbage.
He's a terrible human being.
What he's done to Venezuela is disgusting.
But I've been seeing so much propaganda on Twitter and different social media platforms, but specifically X, on people that go down to Venezuela, and they're like, no, Maduro won.
There's no rioting going on.
But then you look where they're at, and they're in five-star hotels and resorts.
And it's like, you guys aren't actually reporting on what's going on on the ground.
I think there's a lot more to this than what is being shown.
But it makes you wonder if this is a propped up candidate.
But sometimes, I mean, the propped up candidates are better.
Let's be honest here.
hannah claire brimelow
Do you think we'll see the evidence that the opposition is saying they have?
Because I've heard reporting that they haven't released it yet.
You know, the other side is saying, no, no, we have proof that we definitely won correctly.
I mean, it seems like everyone's keeping their cards kind of close to the vest as chaos ensues.
You don't think?
tayler hansen
No, I don't think it'll ever come out.
tim pool
I've seen more evidence that the 2020 U.S.
election was rigged than I've seen that Venezuela's was rigged.
I don't believe Venezuela's election was fair.
I think Maduro is a cheater.
tayler hansen
It's Venezuela.
tim pool
Right.
And what I mean by the evidence of 2020 is, not that anything's been adjudicated, I do believe that it was the shadow campaign and Zuckerbuck's and what the Time magazine article referred to as a conspiracy is what got Democrats the victory.
tayler hansen
Fortifying the election.
tim pool
Right.
It's funny to see the U.S.
coming out and being like, uh, we've seen enough, Venezuela cheated, and I'm like, you didn't see anything!
What proof has the U.S.
seen over anything?
Well, they told us.
libby emmons
Yeah, it's very hard to know anything that's going on, anywhere, at any point.
tim pool
But do you see, like, far leftists losing their minds over this?
tayler hansen
There is some on Twitter, yeah.
There's some that are very, very angry.
But I don't think, you know, this will factor into... I wouldn't want to be in Venezuela now.
I wouldn't want to be in Venezuela ever, because I'm smart and I value my life.
And I know what goes on there.
I mean, this is the same country that people literally walk past dead and slaughtered bodies on their way to work every day, and they think it's normal.
But I don't think this is going to have a big indicator on, like, the riot, the potential riot outside the DNC.
I think this is going to be When that turns into a riot, it's going to be because Josh Shapiro is most likely going to be the VP.
And they know that this, I mean, the Uniparty, they're both pro-Israel.
So either way, you're going to see something.
tim pool
You think this hits the DNC?
tayler hansen
I don't think this will affect the DNC that much.
I think you might hear utters or words of it, you know, between the protesters.
They'll have some signs, but the main priority is going to be the, you know, what they call the genocide in Gaza.
That's what they're going to be hyper fixating on.
libby emmons
It's because everyone has Israel Derangement Syndrome.
tim pool
Yeah.
libby emmons
Yeah.
Everyone's just obsessed with Israel.
No one cares about any other conflict.
There's huge conflicts going on in North Africa right now.
hannah claire brimelow
I was going to say, I think progressives generally pretend to be, you know, very aware of what's happening on the international stage, but they don't care.
I mean, very few things have gotten them to protest the way the Israel-Palestine issue has.
libby emmons
They don't care at all about Ukraine anymore.
They only care about Israel.
tayler hansen
Well, it has the most steam behind it, so they're going to throw all their cards in on it.
tim pool
Were you here when the super chatter was like, If Israel suffers, then I'll vote for Kamala Harris.
And that's not the first time we've gotten those chats where they're just like, it is better that Kamala Harris wins because then it's bad for Israel.
And I'm just like, imagine being so America last.
libby emmons
It's insane.
tim pool
I don't care about America at all.
I just hate Israel, so I'll vote for Kamala Harris.
tayler hansen
Well, and I understand, you know, the gripes with the Israel lobby and stuff in America.
I get there.
I understand it.
I understand if you don't like Israel.
I'm not a giant fan of what we're seeing happening in Gaza.
I mean, I think it's nasty.
I don't like war.
I'm anti-war in every single aspect.
But then it completely overshadows also what's happening between Ukraine and Russia.
You literally have white men killing white men over what?
I mean, what's the point here?
And it's where we're infinitely funding it.
Trump gets an office, I think the Black Sea and the places that have been taken is going to be handed to Putin.
That's how you end this conflict.
You know, does that...
libby emmons
You already had Zelensky the other day being like, oh yeah, let's...
What we really need to start doing is looking for peace.
That's what we're going for.
tayler hansen
Which is absolutely insane.
libby emmons
I mean, the thing with Israel and Kamala and everything else, like the most important things to me in this election have nothing to do with foreign affairs.
I care about American manufacturing.
I think we should be making our own pharmaceuticals here at home so that we're not importing it from everywhere else.
I think that's really important.
I think that we need to put a big stop on illegal immigration.
I think we need to really, you know, hold that and I think we need to become energy independent.
And if we do those three things, we're going to create jobs for Americans, good jobs with health insurance and all of the other things that good jobs have like two weeks vacation and You know, a good salary and you can raise your family and all American families will be boosted by that, too, because jobs like that would make it so ideally both parents don't have to be out of the home eight hours a day, you know, and would be able to, like, bring back the ability of families to support themselves and be part of vital and vibrant communities and people could start really putting down roots.
I mean, that's the big thing when you have, like, big companies that are in towns and areas and regions.
People can put down roots, not just the people that work for that company, but the people that support all the workers there.
tim pool
What we're seeing now is young men going to the right and young women going to the left.
And I'm wondering if, for women, there is not a large biological pressure relative to social pressure?
And so these women are voting for policies that are anti-family, anti-child.
Why do you think it is that young men are going in this direction and young women are going in the other direction?
tayler hansen
Loneliness is a big thing.
The dating culture has been completely destroyed.
tim pool
But not women?
tayler hansen
I mean, for women, though, there's a big difference, too.
I've always said it this way.
Women can pretty much get any man they want.
Not any man, obviously.
There's obviously going to be some people out of their league.
But with men, it's different in the dating pool of where you actually have to fight with competitors, especially in such a competitive dating pool.
I'm pretty sure there was a report that came out that men are the loneliest they've ever been.
In a very, very long time.
And loneliness is going to radicalize people, especially young men.
I mean, you see the way that the right has completely shifted, especially with my demographic, the Gen Z demographic.
They're tired of it.
They're tired of the OnlyFans stuff.
I always say this, you can't even compare America to Weimar levels of degeneracy.
Granted, we are just as, if not even more degenerate, but in Weimar, Germany, People, these women, didn't want to prostitute themselves.
They had to because of the economy, because of everything that was happening.
But in America now, people are willingly being prostitutes.
tim pool
I don't know.
Do you really, like, for OnlyFans, do you think women want this?
Or do you think it's just opportunity?
hannah claire brimelow
A question about culture and the different messaging that men and women get, you know, I think it was our Surgeon General, he declared that we have a loneliness epidemic.
But the way that men and women respond to social pressures is very different.
And I think for a lot of men, you're right, they could become radicalized or just generally like turn in and be like, This isn't working and I'm not happy, so I'm going to do the opposite of whatever, you know, mainstream culture is telling me.
Mainstream culture is largely progressive now.
With women, I think that you have to take seriously the influence of birth control.
And I think the birth control with the combination of feminist ideology really tells women to go against their natural biological instincts and to look at men as their enemies as opposed to, you know, an opposite and equal complementary partner in life.
and it tells them, you know, both the pill literally changes the way they feel the impulses
to have children and to settle down and to find romantic partners, but also they are
told constantly that actually if you do those things, if you leave the work for us, you're
letting down all the women who came before you who fought for your right to sit in a
cubicle all day, which is crazy.
libby emmons
Because it's a religion.
Right.
hannah claire brimelow
It's a religion in the absence of religion.
libby emmons
And I think that's – In the absence of a god, the god is the self.
Right.
And so that's why you have to do so much self-care and you have to worship your gender
and you have to self-actualize and figure out your identity and broadcast that because
the self is god in the leftist religion.
tayler hansen
I think another reason why you see a lot of young men also going to the far right or to the right is because of religion, is because of the loneliness.
The best time to embrace God throughout history for everybody I mean, pretty much anybody that fully embraces Christ, or whether it's their Muslim faith, any of these other faiths, is because they are lonely, they're in a bad spot in their life, and then they find Christ, or they find some sort of God that they believe in, and they attach themselves to that.
Being Christian is inherently right-wing, and you see a drastic shift.
of young Gen Zers starting to embrace Christ right now. You see all the Templar memes,
you see everything that's going around. I mean, that is basically a subculture that's being made,
and young men are embracing that. They're latching themselves onto bodybuilding, which is right wing,
taking care of your physical self. And then now they're trying to take care of their spirituality,
and that is typically right wing. Do you think that the birth control
tim pool
effect on women was intentional or accidental? I think it's accidental.
hannah claire brimelow
You know, largely because I don't think people understood and I still don't think they understand what the long-term consequences of birth control are.
I mean, I know I had friends who would get on it.
You know, I've had so many female friends get on it for all kinds of reasons, right?
Whether it's because they wanted to have sex or, more commonly, like, you have really bad acne.
tayler hansen
You have cramps.
hannah claire brimelow
You have cramps.
This is irregular, whatever.
Like, it's this catch-all, you know, Fix for any kind of female hormonal issue rather than let's figure out your hormones.
libby emmons
All the prep school girls when I was 16, every single one of us was on birth control for random reasons.
hannah claire brimelow
The other part is like they didn't, I have known so many girls who develop really serious anxiety or depression and their doctor says like, no, that can't be because of birth control.
It has to be because of something else.
Let's give you antidepressants.
And when you look at birth control research, you know, there's a ton of conflicting information about the risks in terms of cancer, other things.
You know, we force-fed a generation birth control as this miracle pill, and I understand women will say, you know, oh, well, it made it so women didn't have to have all these children, which is mostly a warped narrative, right?
But I think we mass-prescribe it, and we prescribe it at increasingly younger and younger ages without really knowing what the effect is.
And long-term, you know, we are willing to pay the cultural consequences.
It alters women forever.
libby emmons
We know one of the big effects.
One of the big effects, according to Pete Buttigieg, is that it makes men have more
freedom.
Which is insane.
unidentified
For women to be on birth control and to be able to have abortion.
tayler hansen
You can just go and be reckless as a man, have unprotected sex, because now that gives
us more freedom.
And it's on the women.
That's a culture that we live in, too.
libby emmons
I was on birth control for a long time until I was like, oh, I would like to have a child.
And then it was like a switch flipped in my brain.
And I was like, oh my God, have I really been suppressing all of this about myself this
tayler hansen
Well, and time and time again we literally see the negative hormonal changes that come with birth control, but I think at first it might have been an accident, but now it's intentional.
It's weird personality stuff.
libby emmons
It's also weird personality stuff.
Like, you do think that you're sort of depressed.
Like, I thought I was anti-social and depressed.
unidentified
Yep.
libby emmons
And it turns out that I'm not any of those things, and I never was.
tayler hansen
You're just getting a flood of hormones that aren't supposed to be in your body in that certain manner.
libby emmons
Right, and so it really messes you up.
hannah claire brimelow
I think it's crazy that we wouldn't look at this as a cause, but you can't attack birth control because then you're anti-feminist and you're anti-science, even though the science is always muddled and they never go into, like, I doubt there's been any woman who's been sat down, you know, being like, oh, I want the pill, and they're like, okay, here's the honest answers about your risk for cancer or for long-term hormonal disruption.
libby emmons
But they don't tell you anything about that.
hannah claire brimelow
No, they don't.
libby emmons
For teen girls, doctors will prescribe it to you without giving you any information at all.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Do you guys remember this story?
This is six years ago.
How our drinking water could help prevent suicide.
Some researchers think putting lithium in our water could save lives.
libby emmons
Oh my goodness.
tim pool
Between that and the frogs and the... So the original title of this article was something like, Future Perfect Podcast, Lithium in the Water to Prevent Suicide.
That just basically means they'd like to drug you.
tayler hansen
Well, and they do.
I mean, America's food, you know, with all the dyes, with everything.
I mean, America is literally poisoning their own citizens, and they have been for the longest time.
I mean, Luke can speak on this fantastic.
My wife literally makes a career out of this, of telling people, she calls it the ancestral diet, from what I'm aware of.
And it's meat, eggs, it's real food that hasn't been processed, and it doesn't have all this poison in it.
And I can tell you, from a bodybuilding perspective, My life completely changed, my brain completely changed, when I moved away from eating processed stuff to actually eating steak, chicken, eggs, real food that is made for us, that is given to us from God, and isn't bioengineered 150 times, and is just literally human sludge.
I mean, it's in our drinking water, it's in our food, it's in the air, it's in every single aspect of life, and at this point, it's not 100% intentional.
But hormones, people do not understand how important hormones are when it comes to living a good quality of life.
Most suicidal ideations, all these things that you see in society today, it's because people have messed up hormones and it's not hard to fix.
tim pool
Whatever happened to that story about the birth control being in the drinking water in cities?
Remember that?
libby emmons
That was because people flush it.
tim pool
Yeah.
I thought it was that it gets peed out by women, goes into the water and can't be filtered out or something.
libby emmons
There's a lot of stuff like that, isn't there?
I don't remember what specifically happened with the birth control one, but people flush their leftover medication.
I've heard both.
Yeah, and there's a lot of medication that comes out in your pee, you know?
hannah claire brimelow
I've heard people say, like, you have to be very careful about filtering the water you drink.
You cannot drink tap water no matter where you are because of the risks of both, you know, hormones through birth control or because of other things.
And it's interesting because it's like the beginning of the tinfoil hat experience, right?
Like, if you don't trust the water… That's when you know you're going to buy chickens and start raising chickens.
We know they all cut corners and they all lie.
I mean it really benefits Big Pharma to have this easy to produce drug birth control that they can say, hey Libby, you think you have bad cramps?
You have it.
And Taylor, you have too much testosterone.
You get this too.
Everyone gets the same thing and we'll just mass prescribe it.
Like someone benefits from lying to you.
libby emmons
And suddenly it's Brave New World and all of the children are gestated in pods and no one has any joy.
tayler hansen
Well, I literally had to sit through three and a half hours of it was the white dudes.
libby emmons
Oh, that's right, we were on that.
tayler hansen
And oh, man.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, he's acting like he didn't want to be there.
libby emmons
He's a big Kamala guy.
tayler hansen
Yeah, huge Kamala guy.
No, but the testosterone levels, I made a joke after because I made this graphic.
libby emmons
It was like these people just man bunning us.
tayler hansen
Yeah, and I made this graphic and it was like, you know, physiognomy wins every single time.
Low testosterone is bad physiognomy the most of the time.
I mean, you are not a man without literally your reproduction hormone, testosterone.
And I made the joke underneath it and, you know, that picture went super viral.
It was everywhere, all over all the platforms because it's just like...
libby emmons
That was your man bun thing.
tayler hansen
Yeah, it was the man bun thing.
It had like the, I think it was nine people from the lineup and the physiognomy was just awful.
It's like, these men don't have an ounce of testosterone.
But I made a joke of like, you know, when I am president, which obviously I'm never running for office, but I was like, I will mandate, you know, state enforced TRT injections into men.
Because testosterone levels are awful and that is why you see men voting, you know, overwhelmingly for Democrats in a lot of instances.
Or you see men accepting the feminization of themselves and wanting to wear dresses and do all these things.
And there's been studies that come out that the more testosterone a man has, the more right-wing he becomes.
So it's like, let's just juice all these guys up on testosterone because we got microplastics in our balls, we're drinking poison, eating poison on a daily basis.
Like, one TRT shot and these guys are going to be right-wing at this point.
tim pool
Yeah, but doesn't that have, like, side effects?
tayler hansen
There's some.
tim pool
Like making your balls small?
tayler hansen
Yeah, I mean, it shuts down your natural production, but at the same time, HCG exists for a reason, HMG, Clomid, there's so many things.
I mean, bodybuilders, they all have kids.
Yeah, I mean, there are side effects to absolutely anything, but it's also... That's why I don't want to take anything ever.
Yeah, but the side effects of not being a man, in my mind, are much worse than if you're going to take TRT.
libby emmons
But can't you naturally boost your testosterone?
tayler hansen
You can.
libby emmons
Like exercise?
tayler hansen
Diet, exercise, so many things, but we've been absolutely destroyed as men in this country with all the stuff that's in our food and in media and throughout so many things that you can only boost it to a certain amount.
I remember when I went and got my first testosterone test done years ago when I was unhealthy, I think they said my test was like 400, which is absolutely insane.
They're like, oh, that's normal levels.
It's like, that is not normal levels.
That's significantly low by a 20-year-ago margin, but every single year, the natural testosterone production, the rates go down, and then they change what they consider to be normal levels.
tim pool
Remember this story from Daily Weight?
It's Classics Day here at Tim Casterpump.
The classics.
BuzzFeed guys test their testosterone levels.
The results are exactly what you'd expect.
I mean, this is sad.
It's a really old story, but these four guys had T-levels that were comparable to 80-year-old men.
And weren't they, like, in their 20s or something?
tayler hansen
Well, see, now they consider that healthy.
Literally.
What used to be the 80-year-old level for testosterone is now 17.
tim pool
They said the normal T-score for adult male ranges from 270 to 1070, with men aged 25 to 34 averaging at around 617 NGDL.
Not one BuzzFeed beta male met that standard.
Rather, all the men tested below the level of a typical 85-year-old male at 376.
Moreover, three of the four men tested below the average range, and the male with the highest testosterone level, Eugene, had still had a low T-score of 363.
Wow!
tayler hansen
Yeah, men, get your testosterone above 1,000 nanograms per deciliter and your life will significantly improve in every single aspect.
There's no denying it.
tim pool
Well, what could men do, Taylor, to improve their testosterone?
I heard nicotine increases it.
tayler hansen
Nicotine, well, so some forms of nicotine, overuse of nicotine doesn't increase it.
tim pool
Is that why you have zin over there?
tayler hansen
Yeah, I love me some zin, of course.
Not endorsed, of course.
unidentified
Of course.
tayler hansen
But, I mean, just watching.
I mean, not watching, but lifting, you know, exercising, getting your heart rate elevated.
Not too elevated, obviously.
You see a lot of the sprinters and they're scrawny.
They're not really men.
But weightlifting is going to drastically improve your testosterone levels.
Eating real food.
You know, red meat is key.
Eggs.
Red light therapy.
You know, there's been some studies.
Saunas.
Pretty much anything.
You can get it at least up to the 600 to 800 nanograms, which you can still put on muscle in that range.
But a lot of people are so cooked nowadays that they quite literally have to go to TRT.
You have people in their 20s getting prescribed TRT from doctors.
I mean, that is how bad the testosterone epidemic is in this country.
And it's sad, but in my mind, administering testosterone in that form is better than having a level of 300 nanograms per deciliter, which is absolutely insane.
tim pool
These guys probably had low T because they just don't exercise, they sit around, they're sedentary, they eat garbage.
So that's what a man would be without life.
tayler hansen
You're not a man at that point.
You might as well be a woman in my mind.
You cannot be a man.
You can't be masculine without testosterone.
That is our male sex hormone.
You can't have kids without a decent testosterone score.
And if you do, those kids are also going to be jacked up as well because of all the microplastics and everything else in your body.
So there needs to be a real big overhaul with men and testosterone in this country.
And I advocate that all the time because I do bodybuilding on the side and it's like, this is healthier than what society is force feeding you as a man.
This is why we have dudes in man buns, dudes in dresses, dudes saying that there are other genders.
It's because we have a manliness problem in America and it's been force fed to us.
tim pool
Well, I think, too, the problem is the environmental toxins of cities.
It's beyond just the microplastics.
It's all of the different kinds of endocrine disruptors.
So I have here a glass bottle of water.
We have refillable glass bottles.
We do have plastic here, too.
Because, hey man, some people want it, some people don't.
tayler hansen
Like, when you have people with, like, Ed Krasenstein on.
tim pool
Well, I mean, if people don't care, they don't care.
But we make sure, like, I drink these.
I'll sometimes have a plastic water bottle, because I'm not freaking out about it, but I actually try.
You know, when we go to the farms, I want wax paper-wrapped meat.
And I've had conversations, you know, with my family about doing what we can to avoid plastics for our food.
The problem is, literally everything's covered in plastic.
libby emmons
It's very difficult.
tim pool
Very difficult.
And there's this belief that these plastics are solids.
They're not.
They break apart, they erode, they go into the food.
tayler hansen
They seep into the food.
tim pool
You got bacon wrapped in plastic?
You got plastic bacon.
And you're eating it.
tayler hansen
Well, and pans.
Pans are a big thing, too.
The first thing my wife did when she moved into my house, she took one look at my pans and threw everything away.
My bowls, my pans, my silverware, spatulas, everything.
And she's like, I am going to Target.
And the next thing I know, my kitchen's entirely redone with... Targets?
No, I thought it was you.
Target sells, you know, as long as you get a cast iron pan.
tim pool
Nope, you go outside and you find a big rock.
And then you set a fire, you put the rock on top of it, and then you're getting real minerals.
tayler hansen
There you go.
tim pool
You know what, we don't know what they, when they're shipping those cast iron things, I'm willing to bet that they grease them up.
So when you buy, I'm half kidding about the cast iron skillets, but... You have to season your own cast iron, or your own, like I said to season a wok, it was a real pain in the butt.
Right, but you've got to strip these things.
I'm not going to give anybody advice, but I'll tell you, when you buy like blenders and stuff, there's like shipping grease and stuff.
You have no idea what's in these things.
Clothing, too.
So, man, I learned this the hard way.
One day, I was at my friend's house.
Actually, this was a big shared loft space that I lived with like nine people in Chicago.
And, uh, I'd go in the laundry room and I just, you know, there's soap, throw up my clothes.
And then one day, I busted out in hives all over and I had no idea why.
And I was like, man, I must have eaten something bad.
So I took a shower, I got like calamine lotion or whatever, and I was like, man, this sucks.
And then I, uh, you know, put on some shorts, went to bed next day, put my clothes on, went outside, busted out in hives.
And I'm, I'm, I'm getting really mad.
Like, I didn't eat the same thing.
What's going on?
And I'm like, I got to get rid of the environmental factors.
It was a laundry soap.
tayler hansen
Clothing and soap and all those things, I mean, it's all chemicals.
It can reduce your testosterone level significantly, too.
100% cotton is where it's at.
tim pool
The laundry soap stays in your clothes.
After you wash your clothes, the laundry soap is still in your clothes.
And it goes into your skin, and it goes into your body.
You are absorbing all of it.
So I was like, wow, that's messed up.
I'm like, I washed it, rinsed it, the soap is supposed to be gone, it was not gone.
And I was allergic to it. I don't know what was in it, but I was allergic to it.
And so I was like, I bought that eco-friendly soap that's made of like,
essential oils and coconuts or whatever, had no problems after that.
tayler hansen
I pray for people that they can find a wife like I have that does health stuff for a living,
because like, all my pans, everything in my house, there's no artificial scents,
there's no artificial flavors, sweeteners, you know, even the laundry stuff, the detergent,
it's all natural. And the significantly, you know, she goes and she'll go to the store for six hours,
you know, I'll be to her, you know, I just play video games while she's doing that or do something
else. And she comes back with cotton shirts, cotton this, cotton that. And I'm like, Oh,
okay, sweet, you know.
But now people need to, you know, 100% caught in just making things natural again.
Like that should be somebody's presidential slogan.
Make things natural again.
hannah claire brimelow
I'm just waiting for someone to come along and be like, he's so patriarchal.
His wife does all of these things.
I am.
unidentified
Yes.
hannah claire brimelow
Tends to his house.
You're oppressing.
tayler hansen
She is a great house tender.
I will tell you that.
hannah claire brimelow
But she was interested in all of this stuff before you guys met or got married.
I mean, it's interesting that this is something she is so passionate about and it really does add to your life.
tayler hansen
Oh, it adds to my life more than anything ever has.
You know, if you can improve your health, every single aspect of your life will change a hundredfold and you will notice it almost immediately.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
I think that's one of the things people mix up, which is like fads versus being actually attentive to your health.
I think this is maybe a an effective diet culture or like sort of becoming healthy as a trend versus really being serious about finding out what is best for your lifestyle and body.
And again, like I don't think people take it seriously and maybe that's because of time because we're all, you know, working all the time and can't prioritize it.
But also maybe it's because we're just told to trust that the water is fine and the, you know, artificial colors don't do anything and if you question it, you're I mean, eating clean is literally considered diet in America terms.
tayler hansen
If you eat clean food, they say you are dieting, which is absurd.
tim pool
There's a funny meme where, it's a 4chan green text, where it's a guy, he's like, from Europe, go to the grocery store, grab some vegetables and some fruits and some bread, checking out, and the cashier says, ah, you're on a diet, huh?
And he goes, what?
And they go, eating healthy, right?
And he goes, I don't understand.
And that's just it.
To Americans, it's like normal food would be getting the chicken nuggets.
It's not really chicken, and I don't know what it's covered in, but that's what we eat.
That's our food, I guess.
tayler hansen
Yeah, and we wonder why men in this country are so messed up.
And not just men, because it affects women's hormonal levels entirely, too.
And then you get crazy women, and you wonder why.
It's because hormones are literally the key to everything.
And when you do nothing but breathe bad air, drink bad water, and eat bad food, your hormones are going to be out of whack.
tim pool
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Let's go.
Kyle says, thoughts on the odds of mass amnesty being given before the election?
Might explain why so many criminal aliens are appearing on voter rolls.
That already happened.
What do you mean?
I thought Biden already did that mass amnesty thing where they basically dissolved all of the adjudication appointments.
tayler hansen
I'm pretty sure that already happened.
libby emmons
Yeah, he said that he was going to eliminate the amnesty appointments for a lot of people.
Yeah, so basically, if they came here illegally... Isn't it like 300,000 people or something?
tim pool
Some huge number, yeah.
If you came here illegally, they said, OK, well, we got to check to see if you are worthy of amnesty, so come to this date at this time.
And then they just said, I forget it.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
He hasn't actually granted them citizenship.
They're just in weird legal limbo.
tim pool
But it's perfect.
libby emmons
They have working permits.
tayler hansen
Well, they have a driver's license in Utah.
tim pool
But this means they're non-voting workers in America, so that means in Democrat districts where they end up, the Democrats can't get voted out.
libby emmons
They can't get voted out, and also it increases the number of representatives in the House that those areas get.
tayler hansen
Well, everybody always talks about illegal immigrants voting in elections, but the biggest kind of conspiracy around it is you flood them into predominantly blue areas, that changes the census, which they count illegals in the census, And then that then changes those who are going to be elected, how many people are going to be elected in that predominantly blue area.
But like, even in Utah, out of all places, which they have a very big problem with, Denver, you know, basically flying illegal immigrants into Utah, which is awful.
It's my home, but I see it on a daily basis.
You go on the freeway, there's illegal immigrants driving that don't know how to drive.
You literally walk in the social security office or a DMV, it's almost all illegal immigrants.
And Governor Cox has literally made illegals have the ability to get Utah driver's licenses.
And every other week- You can do that in a lot of places.
Well, every other week now there's, you know, 10 to 30 pounds of fentanyl found in a very, very nice area of the city.
libby emmons
Max is the worst.
tayler hansen
He is the worst.
Well, and he won in a very, very weird and particular way against Phil Lyman, who I was rooting for.
Phil's great.
But he always denied.
I mean, I tried to do a confrontation with him and he literally ran away from me.
He hates me.
He hates you, Tim.
I have it on the inside of his team.
When you talked about him on the IRL show, Governor Cox of Utah.
He despises you.
He's terrified of you, terrified of me.
It's hilarious.
He's a coward.
libby emmons
We had Katie Davis Court chasing Pramila Jayapal down the street.
Pramila!
unidentified
Pramila!
tim pool
What did I say about him?
tayler hansen
You covered my story about the Venezuelan soldier that was on my flight next to me on the way to Utah.
And his whole thing was denying the fact that Utah was what they call a secret sanctuary state, which it is.
They don't deport illegals from Utah.
overrunning homeless shelters, being literally put up in abandoned buildings and getting driver's
licenses, but he swore up and down that it wasn't. And then that story came out in all my reporting
of every single time I got on a flight from any airport in the country, illegals were on my flight
with me. And it just got too big that he couldn't deny. And I was like, Oh, Denver's sending them.
libby emmons
It's not my fault. So in Denver, that that Venezuelan gang has just said that it's okay to
tayler hansen
get the green light.
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
Let's grab some more.
We got Clint Torres says, Howdy people!
This will be my last Super Chat and will cancel my membership, not that it matters much, but I can't fund anyone who shows more outrage over political matters than seeing a male fight a woman.
Evil prevails when good men do nothing.
Just because a woman stands up to a fight with a male doesn't justify allowing a male to fight her.
Anything less than full condemnation of males fighting women is precisely how we arrived at this.
Ah, the paradox!
That makes lots of sense.
dissonance of Clint Torres, the idea that you would stop being a
member at Tim cast, because I don't support women who advocate
for men fighting women. It seems highly paradoxical. So Clint, in
support of a woman who publicly announced her support for a man
fighting women, you've decided to stop funding me, who have publicly denounced a woman who supports men fighting women.
libby emmons
That makes lots of sense.
tim pool
Lots of sense.
Have fun.
If you don't want to support the show, by all means, you certainly don't have to.
But I will never... Like, the idea that a progressive feminist can march around saying men should be allowed to fight women, and I'll prove it, and then she gets in the ring with a man and loses, and I'm gonna defend her, is just laughably absurd.
I'm gonna say, no, these are the people who are fighting to put men in women's sports.
I don't... It's just the weirdest thing.
Like...
Could you imagine a progressive feminist organization that has done everything in their power to get men and women's sports engaging in a sport and all of a sudden you defend them?
Clint, why are you defending people who want men and women's sports is the question I have.
tayler hansen
Well, you time and time again have literally spoken out on this exact issue of men shouldn't be fighting in women's sports.
But it's the fact that this woman literally did it to herself and then afterwards defended the fact and promoted that this man was going to go on and beat women in the ring again.
So she's kind of doing it to herself at this point, which is sad.
libby emmons
And she's doing it to herself.
And she's doing it to any other woman who tries to, you know, step out and not have to fight men.
tim pool
Joey W says both are horrible examples.
The man because he hit a woman.
The woman for allowing other men to get hit in the ring with him.
Look, I'll tell you this.
I am for consistency in my morals.
I don't care who you are, what you do.
If you think men should be allowed to hit women, I don't care who you are, I will say you're wrong.
I will not stand by you.
I will not support you.
That's ridiculous.
And so everybody wants to... This is what conservatives do.
Oh, poor George Floyd.
Until the body camera footage came out, everybody was on board with that.
Oh, poor Covington kids.
I'm sorry, Nathan Phillips is the guy's name.
When the coming-to-kids thing happened, all the conservatives, all the big pundits were like, it was wrong what that kid did.
Except for like three or four people.
One, me, when I was like, I don't know what this video is.
It's a kid looking at a guy.
What's the video?
And then I went through a two-hour livestream and found that it was the other way around.
That video got over half a million views in a matter of hours when I was like, you guys are wrong.
The kid did nothing wrong.
And right now there are people who are saying, this woman who advocates men fight women should be defended by us.
No way.
tayler hansen
Conservatives are their own worst enemies at this point.
tim pool
But the woman was boxing a man by choice.
She wanted to, and she advocates for more women to fight men.
So why would I?
She's a feminist.
She's a progressive leftist feminist advocating women fight men.
I'm like, of course she's for this.
She's in the ring!
No one supports it more than she does, and then afterwards, she publicly stated she hopes he wins!
Like, dude, it's one thing to be like, I don't want to judge somebody, but it's unfair or something.
It's another thing to say nothing.
It's another thing to say, you hope she makes it all the way.
As if to say, this dude should beat all the other women up.
And I'm gonna defend that.
Bro, take your money and go.
I ain't defending that.
You're not gonna convince me to defend a woman who wants women to get beaten in the ring by a man.
Because you're, like, emotional short-term outrage.
libby emmons
I feel like she has Stockholm Syndrome.
tim pool
Or she's a progressive feminist, and this is what they do.
libby emmons
But she's Italian.
I mean, it's a little different, but still.
tim pool
You know what, man?
libby emmons
She's definitely captured by something.
tim pool
All right, let's see.
Raymond G. Maga Stanley.
Maga Stanley Jr., sorry.
Maga Stanley.
Says, well, F-16s got delivered to Ukraine yesterday.
I mean, what would we need them for anyways?
The escalation will continue until morale improves.
tayler hansen
My favorite thing is just white men killing white men.
When is it going to stop?
When are the brother wars going to stop?
Come on, guys.
libby emmons
Right on white crime.
tayler hansen
It's like, you don't even get me talking about crime.
It's not the row we want to go down.
But it's absurd.
I mean, I'm about as anti-war as you can get.
And seeing this war in specific, the Ukraine-Russia war, and us emboldening Ukraine.
They're literally, they have killed generations of men, and now we're sending women into combat.
And you're still supporting this?
I mean, we're propped up.
They're waving Ukrainian flags on the floor when literally reports came out years ago of Ukraine is the most corrupt country in Europe.
And now we're pretending like it's a democracy.
libby emmons
Isn't it like Nazi country?
tayler hansen
I don't know the reality behind that.
I don't care if there's Nazis there.
I don't care who's there.
It's just the fact that we're funding people that are related in a lot of senses, literally murdering other people.
It's absurd to me.
tim pool
All right, we got Juan Castling.
Tim, can you give us skateboarding 101 vids perhaps?
The answer is yes, I can.
If you go to Boonies HQ on YouTube, we are launching a series called Tricktionary, and the goal is to create a massive YouTube playlist with three minute long videos showing every single trick.
So you definitely, and you can also check out Booney's HQ on Instagram.
We have a great video from one of our writers, Sam.
He does a smith grind and teaches you about the smith.
He does it on a flat bar.
And then at the end, there's a couple variations, but it was really based.
He did a smith to feeble, which was very sick.
It's a very good trick.
Um, so, Tricktionary, we're hoping that within, like, a year or two, there's gonna be, like, five hundred videos or maybe a thousand videos.
Within a year, if we- well, maybe it'll be a hundred.
If we really do crank out, like, one per week, then we're looking at fifty or so.
But the idea would be that anyone can look up any trick and actually just see the breakdown of the trick being done and know its name.
And then, uh, maybe we'll even do, like, a little editorial explaining the trick's history or something.
It's all about building the culture and preserving the history of skateboarding and building it up.
The big risk right now is that with the Olympics coming up in LA in 2028, and the industry being so weak right now with major media brands dying, shoe companies falling apart, We are looking at skateboarding turning into gymnastics.
It will be dudes wearing unitards.
There will be no style, no culture.
It will be stripped away because there's nothing to support it.
And you're going to get foreign countries that are going to be like, I don't care about your clothing.
I don't care about your magazines.
You're getting a stock board.
It's going to be all wood colored.
And you're going to wear a unitard because it's form-fitting and most effective for skating.
We don't want that to happen.
I was against skateboarding being the Olympics before it happened, but now that it's here, we're gonna do what we can to make sure we can adjust our sails.
We can't control the direction of the wind, we can't adjust our sails.
Let's go!
Joshua Schaefer says, someone mentioned on your stream this morning that you should have John Cooper of Skillet on IRL, or The Culture War.
You absolutely should.
Also loving Appalachian Nights.
Thank you.
Skillet just played Charlestown, the venue there, by us a couple weeks ago.
Maybe a couple months ago.
I remember I was there that night they played.
So it's too bad I never met the guy.
tayler hansen
Not a lot of people know too is Skillet is Christian.
It's a Christian rock band.
So I literally went with my church when I was a kid.
That's what they took me to was a Skillet concert.
Oh, wow.
And they are very, very Christian and they have their strong beliefs and they're willing to speak out about it.
tim pool
Oh, that's cool, then definitely.
We'd love to have him on.
Maybe if John wants to talk politics and just come on and talk news and politics on IRL, we'd be stoked to have him.
It's too bad we missed him when he came through town.
I saw the ads for Skillet, because it was up for like months, and then I think they played on like a Friday, and we were there and everybody had their Skillet shirts, and then I was like, Skillet.
Eggs.
libby emmons
That's a weird name.
tim pool
Yeah.
All I could think about was like eggs and bacon.
I like eggs and bacon.
Let's go!
libby emmons
I just keep thinking of cast iron because we were talking about cast iron.
tim pool
It's great.
libby emmons
You know?
tim pool
Done right.
libby emmons
Oh yeah.
tim pool
You want to know, I got a horror story for you.
libby emmons
Oh no.
tim pool
This one's for all the ladies out there.
So, uh, I think, I think we had, we were traveling somewhere and so we hired some cleaners to come and, uh, Oh boy.
Oh, you know where this is going.
tayler hansen
I know where this is going.
tim pool
And, uh, so there we were driving up the driveway one in the morning.
Eerie sounds in the distance.
We pull up the car.
Engine turns off.
We grab our bags, walk to the front door.
It opens with a creak.
As we enter, dead silence.
Everything seems normal.
Allison puts the bag down.
Notices something odd in the kitchen.
The cast iron skillet isn't there.
She walks up slowly.
Opens the dishwasher.
And there it is!
In the dishwasher!
Completely ruined!
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
and thrown away.
Yeah.
Could not be rescued.
She tried to rescue it, she couldn't do it.
libby emmons
I don't even have a dishwasher.
tim pool
Put it in the dishwasher.
tayler hansen
We hand wash everything in our house.
tim pool
She was very mad.
libby emmons
Yeah, I don't have a dishwasher either.
tim pool
She was very mad and she called them and was like, you put, it was funny because
the manager of the cleaning company was like, And she was like, the skillet, the cast iron skillet was in the dishwasher.
And the woman was like, oh no, like instantly knew, like, I'm so sorry.
Can we buy you a new one?
And then it was just like, no, because it has to be like redone properly.
I don't know much about it, but.
libby emmons
You have to season it.
It's a whole thing.
I just had to do this whole thing with my wok.
It was like, oh, such a pain in the butt.
Cause I got a new wok.
tim pool
It's a horror story for, not just for women, but I gotta tell you.
libby emmons
Anyone who likes to cook.
tim pool
But I think women mostly know more about the cast iron skillet than guys do.
libby emmons
But you gotta be careful.
tim pool
Cause like, it's not that it's like saying that women should be in the kitchen or whatever, it's that guys will throw bacon in the microwave and then pour Cheez Whiz on them and just be like... In the microwave?
tayler hansen
I learned about that like a few months ago.
I had a buddy and I walk in his house and he's microwaving bacon.
I was like, you can do that?
tim pool
Yeah.
tayler hansen
This is raw bacon?
He's like, yeah, you can microwave bacon.
This sounds awful.
tim pool
Nothing made Allison happier than to hear when I told the story about how she was out of town visiting family and for dinner I was dipping like re-microwaved bacon in cheese sauce.
Because when she's here, we have like seasoned salmon with risotto and broccoli, you know, and then, but it is funny because all the, every guy I've told the story to, they go, yep.
unidentified
Hmm.
tim pool
Wife's out of town.
It's right, right to the garbage.
tayler hansen
Every single time.
tim pool
I'm grabbing a chunk of ground beef and just salt.
libby emmons
You know, what's funny is I was on the show last night and my son was like, I'm going to make my own dinner.
And I was like, what are you making?
He goes, sloppy Joes.
I was like, I would never make you that.
He's like, I know.
tim pool
I- I- I much would prefer to have, like, roasted chicken breast with Brussels sprouts than dipping bacon in cheese sauce.
unidentified
Oh, 100%.
tayler hansen
But you gotta do what you gotta do.
I'm not doing all that work, alright?
I- I travel out of town, and it's off-limits.
unidentified
We're busy.
tim pool
We're busy, huh?
libby emmons
Like, I understand the convenience of the microwave, but you could just put a piece of foil on a cookie tray and put it in the oven for 20 minutes, and it's way better.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, it is better in the oven.
tayler hansen
We ain't got time for that.
hannah claire brimelow
Your wife would have a meltdown because they make, like, plastic containers specifically.
You put the bacon in there to be microwaved.
She would never let that happen.
tayler hansen
All glass in my house.
tim pool
It's just funny that feminists and the left are so disparaging towards women, having this social trope that they're better at cooking, they're more focused on healthier meals, and guys are notorious for eating garbage.
I kind of feel like if there were no ladies, their hair would be falling out, they'd be low-T, they'd be like, I don't know why I feel sick all the time and my joints hurt.
libby emmons
Well, that's why in the Bible it says, leave your family and cleave to your wife.
tayler hansen
Well, every single morning I wake up and I walk downstairs, my wife always wakes up before me, and there it is, the same breakfast every morning, eggs and beef.
Every single morning, she's an absolute unit.
And if she's not there, if I'm on the road or something, it's like, oh, let me get a White Monster and some Zin, I'm good for the next six hours.
tim pool
Taco Bell, maybe.
hannah claire brimelow
It's boy dinner.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Yep.
All right, here we go.
Hal Gailey says, decry discrimination in competition, then immediately admit to doing so and continue to do so based on registered sex, weight, age, and nation of origin.
Let Tyson fight a toddler for the gold or they're hypocrites.
Richard Cook says, Tim, Karine is being ironic about wishing her opponent well.
She's not being supportive.
It's a translation issue between Italian and English.
I do not believe that is correct.
Because it's weird to say, I hope she makes it all the way to the end.
If you were to say, like, I hope she's happy, we know what that means, that's sarcasm.
But if you say, I hope she makes it all the way to the end and finds happiness, or something like, or and is happy, it's kind of like, those two combined really take away any element of sarcasm.
But maybe, I don't know.
libby emmons
It might be a language thing, too.
unidentified
In Italy, they're just, it's everything's like- I hope you find happiness.
libby emmons
I hope you make it to the end.
tayler hansen
Maybe it's like- Is it French?
libby emmons
I don't know.
tayler hansen
It's like the South version of Bless Your Heart.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, she's saying the Italian version of Bless Your Heart.
tim pool
That's not an Italian accent.
Italian accent is like this.
I hope you make it to the end.
libby emmons
That's Jersey.
I know because that's my people.
hannah claire brimelow
I understand the influence of Italian there, but not quite.
tayler hansen
Hey, I hear Italian accent, I think Sopranos.
That's all I think.
libby emmons
No, that's, again, that's Jersey, that's Mid-Atlantic.
tim pool
If a soprano guy says, I hope you find happiness and I wish you the best, you're like, oh crap.
tayler hansen
You're like, I'm gonna die.
libby emmons
Exactly, you see that?
So maybe.
Yeah.
tim pool
That's what Italians do, huh?
Alright, Paul Fongham says, reminds me of the Futurama episode when Bender pretended to be a female robot and participated in the female robot competitions to win all the gold medals.
It's like, should we just put that video up on Twitter and let everyone watch it and be like, dude, that's 20 years ago.
Bender didn't pretend to be female, he actually underwent a robot sex change.
And they replaced his testosterone with female lubricants.
I think that was the episode.
So he actually underwent, and robots in Futurama apparently could do this.
And then there's that famous line where Leela's like, get out of my gender and stay out or something like that.
tayler hansen
Well, South Park has predicted this, too, over, you know, time and time again.
They're like, they're the new Simpsons when it comes to predictions in the world.
I mean, things have just gotten so weird that we're looking to literally adult cartoons, that they're the ones predicting everything.
Family Guy's done in South Park, Simpsons, whole nine yards.
tim pool
It's the critiques of, you know, Matt Parker and Trey Stone, is that what it is?
Matt Stone and Trey Parker.
I mixed them up.
I don't know their names.
libby emmons
The South Park guys.
tim pool
The South Park guys, we'll call them that.
The Simpsons have just joined in on the absurdity.
unidentified
Yep.
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
What was it, they did an episode where Abe Simpson was bi-curious?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Did you see that one?
libby emmons
No.
tim pool
Yeah, like, Abe was like, when I was in the army, there was a guy and I wanted to make out with him, and then they meet up together and they kiss, and he's like, I don't think I'm gay, and the guy's like, that's okay, and they hold hands.
tayler hansen
Well, and then now, literally, after that episode, you had leftists on Twitter and stuff being like, actually, Abe Lincoln was bi.
So, and then it translated into, like, the real world, and it's like, you guys are something else here.
hannah claire brimelow
They love rewriting history.
libby emmons
That's our favorite thing.
tim pool
All right.
John Badesky says, Tim, put that creativity into making the world a better place instead
of making more money.
Spoken like a true leftist.
What is capital?
What is money?
Access?
Resources?
How do you make the world a better place when you don't have those things?
It's silly.
But also, how do you make the world a better place?
Honest question.
I find that most younger activists and leftists think making the world be a better place literally just means give me money.
And I'm not kidding.
A leftist who is for veganism, what are they saying about making the world a better place?
They want you to live the way they want you to live.
Are they correct?
Probably not.
They think they are, so it's just arrogance.
So adhering to their worldview actually doesn't make the world a better place, it just makes it more uniform.
How do you actually make the world a better place?
Well, it's very difficult.
But I think it's actually quite simple.
Help construct systems and repair systems that are conducive to building more systems.
There are certain systems that will deviate and be destructive to their own ends.
If you look at leftism, what is the end result of communist and dictatorial systems?
They collapse every single time.
Now most systems do find their end, regardless of governmental systems, economic systems, but some last longer than others and some are more prone to repairing themselves or altering in such a way that they do get repaired.
The Soviet Union states are in Bad shape, and have been for a long time.
The post-Soviet states, like Ukraine, look at that.
The United States is doing rather well, but things are getting a little murky, a little rocky, as power coalesces.
So how do you make the world a better place?
Well, I can tell you this, not one person knows all the answers, and can do much towards a single ideological goal.
that will actually be correct because you'll probably get some things wrong.
So I look at it very, from a rudimentary perspective, like what is the basics,
simple function of life? To organize free energy into complex systems.
Therefore, if we are focusing on things that are conducive towards order, with balance,
because you don't, too much order and you get collapse, too little and you're in collapse already.
It's finding that balancing beam act.
So we want to support people who are good people.
Decentralized systems tend to be better than centralized ones and focus on building those things can be really really simple.
The world is the way it is.
Why is there a bridge?
Well, some guy one day decided he wanted to build a small bridge.
Someone else looked at it, learned from him, and said, I can make a bigger bridge than that.
There's not a reality where some guy was like, if we built a gigantic bridge, let's just figure it out.
It's typically individuals taking small actions to produce things that have a net benefit in the future when combined with other things.
The left wants to centralize everything and break it all apart.
I think it's a bad idea.
Anyway, let's read some more Super Chats.
We got time for a little bit more.
Rita Ho says, Reuters reported today that the IBA was stripped of its recognition by the IOC last year over governance and finance issues.
Who benefits from this?
Lynn ran tests and showed she is a biological female, but no one reported.
Data don't lie, but people do.
Lynn is the real victim.
Choose what you want to believe.
You know, it's a reality buffet.
IBA says that they came back biologically male, and apparently Lynn didn't contest it and sign the paperwork.
So, whatever.
EW says, wouldn't the Cargill decisions revoking Chevron defense make it where these new rules, including Title IX and all other titles under the DOE, are null if challenged?
They weren't rules or regs passed by Congress and signed into law.
Incorrect!
Title IX is of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, which was passed by Congress.
Next question.
Yeah, those are the titles of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, so they passed the law, and within it are those specific categories.
libby emmons
But what about the reinterpretation by the agency?
unidentified
Because the DOE literally reinterpreted— Yeah, that's gone.
tim pool
Out the door.
libby emmons
What do you mean?
tim pool
When Biden was just like, we're going to change the rules!
libby emmons
So that's what Chevron would do, right?
It would go back to the original congressional— Chevron would say that the reinterpretation by the agency is not acceptable and is not law.
tim pool
Yes.
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
Garhent says, Shapiro is easy to sink.
Vance, I'm so happy to see a Jewish VP candidate with me will pledge to protect Israel with me from Hamas on this on the stage today.
Shapiro loses Jewish vote or Islamic vote no matter his answer.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Brandon Bushnell says, I'm a U.S.
Marine overseas right now.
I'm in a dangerous place.
And when I see the fall of America from an outside perspective, it makes me think, what am I doing here?
It hurts, man.
It really does.
tayler hansen
So this is the more patriotic version of Aaron Bushnell, who lit himself on fire, who was in the Air Force.
tim pool
I think, unfortunately for Bushnell, he was suffering from severe depression.
He was listless and purposeless and thought This is a path towards some kind of significance, and it is not.
tayler hansen
Well, he's already forgotten.
tim pool
Oh, you said his name.
tayler hansen
Yeah, they said his name, but then the left came out, certain segments of the left were like, oh, he was a white guy.
You know, why are we martyring a white man?
And it's like, dude, you guys just eat yourselves.
tim pool
All right.
Greg S. says, six years ago, we, the U.S., recognized Juan Guaido of the opposition as the winner.
What happened that time?
We sat until Biden got elected and then removed all sanctions until another election.
Yep.
So Venezuela will do what Venezuela wants to do.
Let's go.
What have we here?
KCB says, Republicans play politics like short stacks play poker.
They would rather lose everything slowly versus risking it all for a big win.
Pathetic.
You are there wrong, sir.
Short stacks are notorious for jamming all in on weak bets.
So for those who don't know poker, when you have a short stack, it's literally you have a short stack of chips.
So here's how it goes.
Let's say you're playing a 1-2 game over at your local casino with a $100 to $400 buy-in.
You buy in at the top.
That's $400 on the table.
That's four big stacks of red chips or maybe a stack of green in there.
Now you've got $400.
The guy across from you is bought at the top.
He's at $400.
You're equals and you both have large stacks.
You look down at your hand and it's pretty good.
So you bet $15 out of your $400.
That guy says, I'm going to raise you to $45.
You think about it and you say, hmm.
That's a three bet.
I mean, I got Queen Jack off suit.
It's not that good.
Probably shouldn't have opened it, to be honest.
What was I thinking?
If I call this bet, and I miss the flop, he's going to raise probably a two-thirds pot size bet, and now I'm going to have to put in another $40?
Not interested.
I fold.
You can have the $15.
Now what happens if you're a short stack, and you've got $50, and you bet $15, and then he min-raises to $30?
You're thinking, All right, well, I only got 50 bucks.
I can't lose any more than that.
I'm all in.
And you shove it in.
And then all five cards runs out, and you cross your fingers.
Short stacks notoriously will jam all in on... That's it.
There you go.
So, Republicans don't play that way.
If Republicans played politics like people play poker short stacks, they would be going insane over everything.
You know, the Democrats would be like, we just plumb, don't agree with this marginal tax decrease.
And then every Republican would just, like, boycott everything.
The politicians would be screaming, banging on the table, being like, this is the only thing that matters!
No, Republicans play politics like they have a deep stack.
Like, they're sitting at the poker table with $2,000 in chips, and the other guy has $400, and they're like, eh, nah, I'm gonna keep it tight and only bet when I have to.
libby emmons
That's true.
That's a good analogy.
tim pool
And so, yeah, I don't even know if it's fair to say they're playing like it's a deep stack.
They're playing super tight, taking no risks, and just slowly losing their stack.
libby emmons
And trying to keep on to their money the whole time.
Not willing to put a big risk.
tayler hansen
Strongly worded letters, okay?
hannah claire brimelow
That's our tried and true way.
tim pool
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tayler hansen
Yeah, of course.
WatchTenantNow at WatchTenantNow on X. That's where all my reporting goes.
And then at TaylorUSA, T-A-Y-L-E-R-U-S-A.
That's, you know, I retweet and share my opinions there.
libby emmons
You can find me at Libby Emmons on Twitter and, of course, at ThePostMillennial.com and HumanEvents.com.
I hope you come subscribe and check out what we're doing.
hannah claire brimelow
I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlow.
Thanks, guys, for watching.
You can find my work and the work of all the SCNR writers at TimCastNewsOnTheInternet.
You can also check out SCNR.com.
Two things.
Phil Labonte, if all that remains, starts his tour tomorrow.
They have their first show, so you guys should, I don't know, contact him via the internet.
I miss him being here, so I'm sure about a lot of you guys do, too.
The other thing is that you should look up Mark Fogle.
He's the American teacher who was left behind.
He was not included in the prisoner swap today and I think it's really important that people know his story.
If you want to follow me, I'm HannahClaire.B on Instagram and I'm HannahClaireB on X. Thanks for everything you do.
Have a good night.
tim pool
We're back tomorrow morning.
Tim, one last thing.
Thanks for twisting my point.
You've been friends with Destiny for way too long.
in Islam, so you definitely want to check that one out.
But I'm going to give one more honorable super chat here to Clint Torres, who says,
Tim, one last thing.
Thanks for twisting my point.
You've been friends with destiny for way too long.
Even though I've disagreed with you on some issues, I always admire your honesty until
today.
And this is what happens when you are too emotional to understand the logical problem
before you, Clint.
The problem is a woman who supports men fighting women, supports men fighting women so much, she decided to enter the ring with a man.
She lost.
Publicly stated that she forfeited because her nose hurt, not because Khalif was a man.
Then said, I hope Khalif makes it to the end and is happy.
That is a progressive feminist who is advocating for men to fight women, and you said you were pulling your membership and your superchats from me for calling her out for supporting that.
Your actions today send a signal that if progressive feminists support men fighting women, you will defend them if you're sad they got hit because of their own will.
Okay, so be it.
By all means.
By all means, go do what you want.
We'll be over at TimCast.com.
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