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Biden CANCELS Speech, Tests Positive For COVID Warns HE MAY RESIGN w/Riley Gaines | Timcast IRL
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hannah claire brimelow
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riley gaines
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robert barnes
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tim pool
Joe Biden has COVID!
Apparently.
He cancelled a speech, announced that he has COVID, and, um, well, just a little bit ago he said that if his doctors told him to resign because he had a condition, he would resign.
So Donald Trump and his campaign, J.D.
Vance, they said they can't commit to a debate with Vice President Kamala Harris because, or I'm sorry, they didn't say that, they said they can't commit to a debate because they don't know who the Vice President's gonna be!
And it would be unfair to the list of other Democrats who may be the VP pick, basically saying Joe Biden is out.
And it gets crazier.
Well, we've got Chuck Schumer and Adam Schiff now calling for Joe Biden to resign, so it's seeming increasingly likely that this will be it.
Perhaps COVID is the reason he will resign, a medical condition.
But new information has... Of course new information's come out on the assassination attempt on Donald Trump.
We're now learning that 10 minutes before Donald Trump went out onto the stage, the Secret Service had already identified the assassin as a threat.
We're learning that the assassin was identified three hours before Trump took that stage, that they knew he had a rangefinder, which was odd.
This is not adding up, unfortunately.
And in the briefing with members of the Senate, they answered only four questions before storming out, which several senators are saying is odd.
Usually they'll try and answer all of your questions.
And, you know, look, It may be hard to say, but I think it's looking more and more like there was some kind of official capacity to this.
Local police are denying reports that they were instructed to secure that building.
They're saying, that's not us, we were told to do traffic control.
And why would Secret Service hand off security of a sniper vantage point to a local police department?
And they're denying it.
None of this story is adding up, and the fact that they won't give answers Things are getting really, really weird.
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more, we've got Riley Gaines.
riley gaines
Hello.
Thrilled to be here.
tim pool
Who are you?
What do you do?
riley gaines
I am a woman.
That's what I am.
But I was a collegiate swimmer, swam in college, did some pretty incredible things in my career, but my senior year we were forced to compete against a Less than mediocre man, in his rightful category, he was ranking 500th plus in the nation.
Switched to the women's team, naturally won a national title.
He and I raced, we tied, which is relatively embarrassing for a 6'4 man, he couldn't even beat me.
Went the exact same time, but the NCAA said the trophy goes to him, and when I asked the dreaded question of why, they said it was necessary when photos were being taken.
Wow.
tim pool
So we do have another story in that regard.
Elon Musk is officially announcing his exit from California over this new gender bill that they've passed.
So we'll definitely talk about that.
So thanks for hanging out.
Barnes, he is here.
robert barnes
Yes, always good to be here.
It's been a fascinating time period and it only continues to get more fascinating.
tim pool
And he is, well, who are you?
What do you do?
robert barnes
Oh, sure.
VivaBarnesLaw.Locals.com.
Viva and I do a little law for the people show and have been covering a lot of the political news and legal news that continues to develop on that front.
tim pool
And so you are the other half of the Viva and Barnes show.
viva frei
Yes, Viva and Barnes.
Barnes is my partner-in-law, as I say.
Which camera?
This one.
Viva Frye, everybody, I guess you know me by now.
David Frye, former Montreal litigator, current Florida rumbler.
I am no longer a lawyer because I relinquished my Quebec license because the only thing that was serving a use for was people filing anonymous complaints because they didn't like my tweets from Florida.
So no longer practicing, but I had 13 years of experience and Robert Barnes and I have our Sunday show.
It's fantastic.
tim pool
Right on, we got Luke Rudkowski.
luke rudkowski
Hey guys, Luke Rudkowski here of YouTube.com forward slash WeAreChange.
I had to censor my shirt here a little bit, that all the chicks are digging at the RNC.
I'm also posting about that story and what I'm up to on Twitter, on at Luke WeAreChange.
I have a lot of fun on there, so check me out, at Luke WeAreChange.
hannah claire brimelow
And your shirt's on your website?
I bet people are going to log on to see what it says.
luke rudkowski
It says blank, blank, $8,000, blank.
hannah claire brimelow
It's like the very weird Wheel of Fortune.
luke rudkowski
I don't shoot blanks.
hannah claire brimelow
Allegedly.
luke rudkowski
I'll just leave it at that.
hannah claire brimelow
I'm Hannah-Claire Brimelow.
I'm a writer for SCNR.com.
I'm co-hosting the show tonight.
I'm so glad you guys are with us.
Let's get started.
tim pool
Here's the story from Daily Mail.
President Joe Biden tests positive for COVID.
Okay, well, I don't really care all that much.
Just on the surface, he canceled his speech.
What I care about is the next story that we have from The Telegraph.
Biden says he'd quit the race if doctors told him to.
I guess he's up there saying, well, if the doctors say I have a condition.
The speculation is now that this will be the reason Joe Biden drops out.
Because to add on top of all of this, you've got Rep Adam Schiff saying Joe Biden should leave the presidential race and an update.
Senator Schumer told Biden in a meeting on Saturday it would be better for the country if he ended his re-election bid.
Perhaps this is how Joe Biden saves face and resigns, hands the torch to Kamala Harris?
hannah claire brimelow
It is funny they brought back COVID, right?
I feel like that's vintage at this point.
I'm not even sure I believe he has it.
I think they're just circling the wagons and said, you did so terribly speaking last night.
We're not sure we can let you on stage today.
luke rudkowski
If Dr. Fauci comes in and they put him on a ventilator and rendesivir, we should be worried, because that's the end of Joe Biden.
robert barnes
Well, personally, I'm sure that he didn't get COVID because he's vaccinated.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, multiple times.
robert barnes
Yeah, he's got the boosters and everything else.
tim pool
It could be, I think, it might be like the eighth variant.
robert barnes
Yeah, that's right.
viva frei
You know, it's funny.
luke rudkowski
I think it's called CIA.
viva frei
We were just talking about it literally this morning and Robert said, if I said, well, the 25th and he says, well, they can't really bring in an illness that's going to 25th.
And so it's got to be something that allows him to finish out his, his term.
COVID could be the greatest one.
Although if they do intubate him and remdesivir him, that solves a lot of people's problems from the deep state perspective.
The only big problem they have is who do they use to replace them afterwards?
hannah claire brimelow
I think it's funny that they had some social media intern immediately turn this into a fundraiser, though.
He posted that thing just saying, I'm sick, and then underneath there's a link.
Sorry, I didn't mean to jump ahead here.
tim pool
Biden tweeted, I'm sick.
But then he replied, of Elon Musk and his rich buddies trying to buy this election, and if you agree, pitch in here.
Joe Biden doesn't know what Twitter is.
He doesn't know what X is.
riley gaines
You know his interns in that room are just high-fiving each other after this one.
luke rudkowski
We need Dr. Joe Rogan here immediately to help out Joe Biden, because if he doesn't, I think Joe Biden is in a very precarious situation.
tim pool
I think Biden's out.
Look, whether he has COVID or not, this is the play for Joe Biden to leave.
He kept saying, look, I'm in this race.
I'm not going to back down.
I'm going to win it.
I'm going to beat Trump.
And he had no political reason to bow out of the race.
Now he does.
viva frei
But the problem is, COVID doesn't end his re-election bid unless it ends his life.
This is not the type of thing where he says, oh, I'm so sick because of COVID, I gotta drop out.
tim pool
I disagree.
riley gaines
Well, what about all this long, long COVID?
tim pool
Right, exactly.
riley gaines
What do we think?
tim pool
A week?
riley gaines
Six months?
tim pool
Yeah, yep.
A week from now, he says, I'm having a hard go of it.
I'm not as young as I used to and having a hard time recovering.
He's older.
I don't think it needs to end Joe Biden to end his campaign.
riley gaines
He tweeted today that, of course, I have COVID, I'm sick, but I feel fine.
I feel fine.
Thank you for the well wishes.
viva frei
This is my play.
I've got COVID.
I feel fine.
Oh, we just did a CAT scan.
I've got advanced dementia or Parkinson's.
I've got a drop-up.
Just found it by chance.
You know, in February, I was totally good to go.
Now they just found it.
Good thing I got COVID.
I can get the treatment I need.
Kamala, take over.
luke rudkowski
He's like Mr. Burns.
tim pool
All the bacteria is moving in, protected by... Did you guys see one of the latest videos of him walking off the stage where his hands are like this?
And other people have pointed out that when he gives speeches, he doesn't blink.
Yeah, that's a symptom of Parkinson's disease.
People have been pointing out that rigidity, the hands slumping down like Mr. Burns, and not blinking are symptoms of Parkinson's.
hannah claire brimelow
And this is all Joe Biden's worst nightmare, right?
He's a veteran career politician, and he actually does not want to be perceived as a weak old man.
I'm sure a lot of men at the end of their lives don't want to either.
But for Joe Biden in particular, it is the one thing that will make him hostile.
Even if they set him up with an interview with a friendly reporter, if they start saying, like, should we be concerned about your health?
He gets mad.
He doesn't like it.
And I think that is actually something the staff on his campaign that are sort of saying, let's pull the plug on this.
No.
And that's why the COVID thing is sort of the only narrative out.
He's going to say, you know, I've either discovered another health condition or I'm not recovering well or, you know, it just it made me think about how little time I have left my family.
But I don't think he'll drop.
I don't think he'll try to leave the presidency.
I think he'll he'll just finish out his term and open the door for someone else to be swapped in during their convention, if that's possible.
Although I think really Joe Biden, you know, he's going to go kicking and screaming.
He doesn't want to leave this ticket.
riley gaines
Well, do you think Joe Biden doesn't want to be seen as a weak old man, or do you think Jill Biden doesn't want Joe to be seen as a weak old man?
hannah claire brimelow
I don't think Joe Biden really cares about Joe Biden, right?
She'll keep him married, even when he's on a ventilator and in a coma.
I mean, she wants to be in the White House, and I think that's the real testament to their relationship.
They both want to remain in the White House.
tim pool
Viva just showed me the predicted numbers right now.
Kamala Harris is currently in first place to be the Democratic nominee.
viva frei
Unbelievable.
tim pool
But this is not the first time this happened.
This was a week or two ago that Joe Biden dropped below Kamala Harris.
It inverted.
Talk about a wild swing for the people who are betting on Joe or Kamala on predicted, because you're like making $10,000 and losing $10,000 every other day.
viva frei
It depends when you sell.
I sold bought no for Joe Biden when he went back up to like 60 some odd cents or was like high 50s because like he's going to go back down.
I might have sold a little bit too early because now he went even lower than when I sold it.
He'll bounce back.
If he gets over the cold, he'll bounce back.
This is all, you know, a reaction to the news.
The issue, though, is it looks entirely reasonable that everyone's starting to expect and persuade people to imagine Kamala Harris as the actual presidential candidate.
But my goodness, 34 cents.
robert barnes
How do they circumvent Kamala Harris?
That's what I'm curious about, because they're circulating the memorandum today in Washington, D.C.
that she's a loser, that everybody that's connected to the administration is a loser, but how is the Democratic Party, the party that has men winning women's swimming competitions, how do they pass over the African American woman presidential nominee?
tim pool
Michelle Obama?
robert barnes
Yeah, but she hates people.
She hates people, she hates politics.
She doesn't want to do it.
And she worked very hard to be able to cash in.
To go to Richard Branson Hall, do the island, go the Oprah tour, everybody praise her.
tim pool
The Deep State.
Let's be as factual as possible.
The Liberal Economic Order was established after World War II, and that's the official name for what we've seen with US military bases all around the world, international relations, NATO, etc.
Their intelligence and subterfuge apparatus has been breaking apart, as easily evidenced by the election of Donald Trump in 2016.
He was not supposed to win, and that was the crack in their armor.
Since then, it's only gotten worse, to the point where they had to throw Joe Biden, because they don't have anything else to do.
I genuinely believe we're looking at the grandchildren of the men of the liberal economic order, who don't know how to maintain a machine that was built by their grandparents, and they are losing their grip on it, to the point where we had this botched assassination attempt that appears more and more to be, uh, let's just call it, in some way, within official capacity, which we'll get to in a second, but where we're at now with this election is, we keep talking about how they do this, what they could do, I don't think they have any plan whatsoever for any political action.
None.
They said, Biden's got to drop out, and it's like, no, and they're like, what do we do?
And now it's like, I got COVID.
It's just pandemonium!
robert barnes
But if you were in that deep state room, when Viva and I were talking earlier, my proposal would be pick somebody out of the blue, pick somebody that's a celebrity, pick somebody that could match up with Trump.
I would try to recruit The Rock.
riley gaines
Mark Hamill.
unidentified
But look, look, look!
riley gaines
Mark Hamill, former president.
tim pool
See, I'm pretty sure that if Two of the people at this desk and maybe two of the people even watching this show were in that deep state room.
They would be giving them better strategy and advice on how to maintain their system than whatever it is they're doing.
robert barnes
Yeah.
They have no plan B. They have no plan B with Afghanistan, with Iraq, with Libya, with Syria, with Trump, with this.
Uh, but the, I think their only hope is somebody better than who's on that list.
Whitmer's not, Whitmer's not gonna beat Trump.
Harris is not gonna beat Trump.
Newsom's definitely not gonna beat Trump.
Uh, Michelle Obama's not, she's not even gonna run, but she wouldn't beat Trump anyway.
And nor would Hillary.
I mean, Hillary all over again?
viva frei
But can you imagine we're writing this simulation that nobody can believe as it is?
Like, he wasn't supposed to win in 2016, he wasn't supposed to dodge that bullet, and now it's Hillary versus Trump 2.0 in the simulation.
unidentified
It's too much.
tim pool
If I presented a script, I said, here's a script for a movie, and they're like, the presidential candidate dodges a bullet?
I mean, come on, man.
robert barnes
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
He did, though!
robert barnes
I mean, within a second, you see all the different videos.
Which also makes you wonder about who pulled that trigger, right?
Is it really the autistic kid who couldn't get into his high school program's rifle team?
That's the guy who did it, rather than somebody else who did it?
tim pool
Well, we've got a lot to break down on that.
hannah claire brimelow
New details coming out.
tim pool
Oh, dude, the new details are crazy.
So just final thoughts, I suppose, on who do we think the actual Democratic nominee is going to be.
I'll just say this.
Everybody thinks they have to have a reason to bypass Kamala Harris.
I really don't.
I think Kamala, it's a rock and a hard place.
And if the pressure cooker gets hot, she comes out and just says, I'm stepping aside.
Have a nice day.
robert barnes
Bye.
tim pool
And then whoo, and she gets in her car and then they roll clip saying Kamala had to fly back to her home planet or something.
robert barnes
I definitely wouldn't bet against Hillary Clinton on that list.
But otherwise, they need somebody else if they actually want a shot.
viva frei
Tim, my predictions have been pretty good recently.
The night before last, I said, they're going to snip that clip and say that Trump fell asleep.
Nailed it!
And I nailed it when I said Biden is going to blow the debate and it's going to be a public debacle.
I still, I called it a while back.
It was never going to be Joe Biden as the presidential nominee.
It's going to be Gavin Newsom.
And that's why they were making Gavin Newsom even look like Joe Biden in those videos, having him dance around with She.
So I would say if anyone's going to replace him, it's going to be Gavin Newsom.
hannah claire brimelow
See, I think if Joe Biden has a pulse, he's going to refuse to leave.
viva frei
That's the reality.
riley gaines
I think so, too.
I say Joe Biden stays.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, I'm the same way.
I mean, I don't see him kind of giving up his power, especially with Jill and Hunter by his side.
And they know Kamala is less popular than he is.
tim pool
But hold on, we have this story from the Hill.
Trump campaign won't commit to VP debate, citing uncertainty over Democratic ticket.
Now, there's better headlines.
Trump campaign trolls Democrats.
They say the Trump campaign Wednesday said it would not commit to a date for a vice presidential debate, suggesting it was still uncertain who would be on the ticket.
Quote, We don't know who the Democrat nominee for vice president is going to be, so we can't lock in a date before their convention.
To do so would be unfair to Gavin Newsom, J.B.
Pritzker, Gretchen Whitmer, or whoever Kamala Harris picks as her running mate.
Donald Trump, uh, the Biden campaign earlier Wednesday said, Vice President Harris had accepted an invitation from CBS News to participate in a debate against Trump's running mate, J.D.
Vance.
Those, uh, what are they saying, August 12th or 13th?
CBS News had previously extended an invite for the 23rd of July.
Though such a date seemed unlikely, given it was a week after the GOP convention.
Quote, Donald Trump is the one whose campaign said he would debate anytime, anyplace, and who picked J.D.
Vance specifically for his debating skills, Biden's campaign spokesperson Brian Fallon said in a statement.
Now suddenly, right after a damning new leak showing his support for a nationwide abortion ban, Vance is backing off a debate against Vice President Harris, who has spent the last two years prosecuting the case on behalf of reproductive freedom.
I think Trump's right.
Right now, Joe Biden's got COVID.
He already said that if he had a condition, he would bow out.
More and more evidence is piling up that he may have Parkinson's disease.
I think the probability is that he's not the nominee.
robert barnes
Well, I mean, I think it's smart of them to troll in this way.
I mean, to continue to show the destabilization of the Democratic Party, how there's an incompetent president occupying the White House, how the Democratic Party can't decide who to do.
And I mean, for the Democrats, the longer this goes on, the more of a debacle.
I mean, how do you choose Chicago to do this again?
I mean, Chicago 1968, the most controversial, conflicted Democratic convention ever.
It's when they stole the presidency after Robert Kennedy's assassination.
You have another Robert Kennedy running for the President of the United States, and you're going to have another crazy protest session in Grant Park and elsewhere, and you decide, let's pick Chicago for the place we decide to steal the nomination by the elites on behalf of someone that no one has voted for in the Democratic Party.
hannah claire brimelow
But do you think that speaks to the fact that the Democratic Party is really governed by young people who don't actually have any sense of history?
Maybe older people, too.
They don't.
I mean, like, I don't know if Riley knows the history of the 1968 election.
I definitely know it was something I had to read back up on because it's just not something that's talked about.
I mean, really young voters can't think past, like, what, the 90s at this point?
And that's through the, I would say, 30s and like 18 to 35.
Through the, I would say, 30s and like 18 to 35.
That's, the 90s is pushing it for what they remember.
riley gaines
I can tell you I do not know what happened in 1968.
I know the 1972 Richard Nixon, but really that's the extent of my knowledge.
hannah claire brimelow
And that would mean that you can't necessarily strategize based on what's done in the past.
riley gaines
And I would say I probably, I mean I have a fairly decent understanding of history.
viva frei
Riley, Barnes is going to give the 30,000 foot overview and it's going to blow your mind because I didn't know about it either.
Give it to me.
It's amazing in that it might repeat this year.
robert barnes
Hunter Thompson famously portrayed it.
You had Norman Mailer and Pat Buchanan sitting in the hotel room looking over as the cops and the protesters went to war with each other.
Because you had the anti-war protesters, you had the LLBJ trying to steal the nomination for Hubert Humphrey after the assassination of Robert Kennedy Sr., who had just won the California primary a month before.
And basically what it was, it was a disaster for the Democratic Party.
It showed they were incapable of uniting behind anybody.
riley gaines
Well, it definitely seems as if we're teeing up to that again, given everything that happened in the Middle East.
I've already heard of pro-Palestinian protests going to occur there.
So, I mean, it makes sense.
tim pool
Riley, what year were you born?
unidentified
2000.
Shut up!
riley gaines
I'm a baby.
tim pool
You do not know the world pre-911.
riley gaines
No.
tim pool
And we have a lot of young people who are going to be voting in this election and obviously everybody understands humans age and generations come and go but that is actually really interesting and how it affects But you can see it in this piece right here, where they talk about abortion and different things, and that's certainly an appeal to people like myself who don't have a fantastic, holistic understanding of history.
riley gaines
They try and do this stupid stuff right here, talking about J.D.
Vance and abortion.
luke rudkowski
I have a lot to say about 9-11, but we'll talk about it afterwards.
But more importantly, I do think, you know, the Democratic machine and the powers that be in the establishment might not be really running this year because there could be something else down the pipeline that will make elections kind of irrelevant.
Or there could be a possible scenario where they kind of want Donald Trump to be in power because then when the economy collapses, they could blame it on him and his kind of right-wing populist Um, policies that they could conveniently say, look, this is what ruined the economy.
Look at Donald Trump's leadership that of course allowed us to, to be absolutely bankrupted and destroyed.
So I think, I think there's, there's a play within a play here.
And if you're looking at them, they're not, they're not playing to win.
So if they're not playing to win, what else is going to be happening in the near future that might be on our radar that could be very concerning for everyone.
robert barnes
Well, you could have an October surprise in August.
luke rudkowski
Exactly.
robert barnes
We're talking about this war with Iran.
tim pool
I just gotta tell you.
I just gotta ask, actually.
Considering everything we've seen thus far, what could an October surprise look like now?
I mean, come on, we've dealt with Donald Trump being criminally charged, indicted, federal, state-level, sexual assault allegations that are ridiculous, the hush money convictions, now an assassination attempt.
luke rudkowski
What could they surprise us with?
Let me tell you.
World War?
economic collapse, another bio weapon, another pandemic.
Yeah, a bio weapon, not a pandemic, not a pandemic.
hannah claire brimelow
A bio weapon.
riley gaines
I was going to say it's a new variant.
tim pool
Fair to a certain degree, but these aren't surprises.
riley gaines
That's, well not anymore.
tim pool
We're all sitting here with bated breath being like, we're waiting for World War III to start.
robert barnes
Yeah, I know.
riley gaines
But you say we all, you mean the people here.
Do you think the American people really, really think that?
I think people who aren't informed don't think that.
tim pool
Well, to a certain degree.
riley gaines
I think the people on Twitter do.
tim pool
We can phrase it two different ways.
The average person probably doesn't, but a larger than average sample does, which is
abnormal.
riley gaines
Larger than maybe what we would have polled historically.
But still, I still don't think there's a super large percentage of people who are preparing
for some sort of doomsday.
I just don't.
viva frei
Has the October surprise ever been something good?
Like Hillary's pregnant again.
I don't know what it could be.
riley gaines
Was that good the first time?
Was that ever good?
viva frei
Maybe the October surprise this year is good news.
I don't know what that could look like.
I know I had an idea earlier today.
hannah claire brimelow
It's always good for one side, right?
Somebody tends to benefit from the October surprise.
tim pool
We got a fact check.
I pulled it up.
It's one poll.
I don't know.
It's from March.
61% of Americans surveyed believe that a global war is very likely or somewhat likely within the next five or ten years.
So that's a wide berth.
riley gaines
That's a big number.
tim pool
Well, the Germans are preparing for it.
luke rudkowski
Many European countries are saying there's going to be a full all-out war between the Eastern and Western powers.
We are already seeing the proxy wars, the economic wars.
So this situation, especially for the Ukrainians now, with a potential Donald Trump presidency, is very desperate for them.
And I could see a larger kind of escalation in that region that would involve more and more countries.
That would get us into a global conflict that would make elections not really relevant anymore, and I think that's a danger, especially with the history of false flags with the American government conducting them, that we should be absolutely on the lookout for, because that could be their larger scheme, and this is why the Democrats in the establishment kind of don't care.
They're like, yeah, whatever, you think we'll lose this election?
Well, there's something else here for you that we're going to surprise you later down the line.
hannah claire brimelow
You give them more credit than I ever would.
I just think that this whole entity is wheels falling apart.
I think there's so much internal chaos in any sort of liberal or democratic progressive movements.
And we see this regularly at those meetings where no one can agree on the rules or pronouns.
luke rudkowski
I absolutely disagree with that because a lot of people always say, oh, the government's incompetent.
Oh, the government made a mistake here.
They just told you that there was weapons of mass destruction.
No, they were extremely successful when it came to destroying our civil rights.
Our civil liberties, when it came to transferring our wealth and money over to the military-industrial complex, when it came to absolutely controlling and ruling over us, when it came to COVID, they were extremely successful with the gains that they were able to get.
And when you look from a larger picture, from hindsight... I love that there's this big they-go.
hannah claire brimelow
Like, they're so disorganized, they can't even pull this candidate.
They clearly hate... They didn't even successfully pick a vice president that would replace him.
Nobody likes her.
They didn't like her before she was in second-in-command.
luke rudkowski
And George W. Bush was just dumb.
hannah claire brimelow
I'm not saying that there aren't conspiracies.
I just think that right now, whatever there may be, if you believe in the overarching idea that there's an organization running everything, they're doing a terrible job.
They don't even like each other.
robert barnes
Well, what you may have is something like pre-World War I elites, right?
I mean, the British Empire, Ottoman Empire, French Empire, Russian Empire all collapsed within a decade because you had incompetent corrupt people at the top.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, it was crazy.
robert barnes
And that's what we're seeing evidence of.
tim pool
I think it goes to the saying, wealth lasts three generations.
So, World War II happens.
Strong men create good times.
They build this system, which we actually grow to despise quite a bit, but they call it the liberal economic order.
You can read all about this on the CFR's website.
They explain how they did it and what it is.
For those that are listening at home, did you ever stop and wonder why the United States has military bases in Spain, the UK, Japan, Germany?
Can you name a country that has a military base in the United States?
I mean, it sounds weird, doesn't it?
But in the UK, we have military bases.
The reason we have military bases in Germany and Japan is because we've been occupying them since the end of World War II.
Now, I believe it was Yuval Noah Harari, World Economic Forum deputy, said, if Trump gets elected, it's the end of this global order.
What we're looking at is a global order created in the 50s, or maybe late 40s.
You've got the children of those institutions struggling to maintain that machine, and the grandchildren of those men have no idea how the machine is run, and they are fumbling it, miserable.
viva frei
You don't think Alex Soros is capable of taking over George Soros' regime?
unidentified
Come on!
hannah claire brimelow
Well, he's got Huma now!
robert barnes
He's got new help!
He's got Huma now!
tim pool
That's the power couple.
Listen, he is the product of the machine produced by his parents and their allies.
He is a... Look...
Too many of Millennials and Gen Z. Gen Z's a little bit less, but Millennials, they are weak.
They don't have the capability to do hard work or understand merit.
And so, these are just the snooty rich kids of global elites who have no idea how the machine was built, no idea how it was maintained, or how to build wealth or maintain power at all.
And clearly it is shattering in their hands.
viva frei
It's the rice patty to rice patty in three generations is the concept you're describing, and it makes total sense here.
I did remember my white pill October surprise, and it's plausible, so mark it now.
Massive Secret Service, FBI, CIA whistleblowers that reveal what we've all suspected for a long time
and brings down the official machine before a second Trump presidency.
I mean, I forget who was I talking to today, talking about how, like, even with an intelligence,
at some point people are going to back out of this machine that's falling down,
and they're going to say, I don't want to be on this ship when it sinks.
tim pool
I was just telling you that.
We were just, we were talking about it like an hour ago.
viva frei
No, no, no, this was earlier in the day.
Tim, earlier in the day.
tim pool
About an hour ago, I was saying that I believe that with the election of Donald Trump in 2016, the cracks were starting to form.
And then once they criminally charged Clinesmith, they started making moves to actually go after people who are engaging in corruption, you probably ended up with low-tier liberal economic order personnel saying, guys, look, I can't be a part of this, you're losing, I'm out.
viva frei
You're right, it was you.
For a second I was going to credit Pavlovsky for having told me this because I thought it occurred earlier in the day.
tim pool
Well, good.
viva frei
No, but I think you're absolutely right, and it raises the... I say the October surprise that could be a white pill following up on what we're seeing right now.
They've gotten too brazen, they've gotten too incompetent, nobody believes it anymore, and they don't want to be a part of that.
luke rudkowski
There's a couple notions here that I think are worth considering and thinking about, specifically when it comes to these individuals who don't give a damn about America, don't give a damn about this country, don't give a damn about this Constitution.
They're globalists, they're internationalists.
If they have to destroy America in order to get their way, which I think was the plan, I've been talking about this plan for a very long time, a control the demolition, of the American economy, of the American society.
They need to do it in order to bring over this kind of new world order, this kind of global communism, this kind of new global order system that they've been dying to implement.
And the best way to implement it is to, of course, sink the West.
So this, to me, is something that has been planned and done.
And it's not just incompetency.
It's not just them falling apart.
To me, the destruction of the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, the First Amendment, the Second Amendment especially, which is rare, It's something that is key and something that they need to do in order to get total control over everybody.
tim pool
I want to jump to this story, which is... It's a difficult story to report because I don't know exactly what we're looking at, but it's gone a bit viral and kind of hard to see.
Maybe I can... I don't think I'm gonna be able to format this website for it to be visible to anybody in any meaningful way.
This is fintel.io, and we can see here the date is July 12th.
2024, a company called Austin Private Wealth LLC bought 12 million puts on DJT.
I'm not an expert on what this means.
I'm bringing it up because it's been going viral like crazy, and what's being suggested that these are shorts on DJT, on Truth Social, the day before the assassination attempt, and more puts, more shorts, than all of the others combined since this company's existence.
So a lot of people naturally are asking, whoa, hold on, hold on.
Some wealth LLC company bought more shorts ever, right before someone tried to kill Trump?
riley gaines
Explain a short, like I'm five.
tim pool
Okay, you're betting a stock will fail.
That's the simplest.
Now that you're, that's five.
Fifth grade is, I asked Hannah Clare if I can borrow her Coca-Cola.
I then tell Viva I'll sell it to him for a dollar.
viva frei
I then forget who sold it to me, drink it, and then what happens?
tim pool
And then I hope that the cost of a Coke drops to ten cents so that I can buy a different one for ten cents, say, here's your Coke back, Anna Claire, and keep the ninety cents.
riley gaines
I see.
tim pool
Good use of prop.
hannah claire brimelow
That was great.
riley gaines
Yeah, that was.
tim pool
If it is true that, again, I don't know if anybody watching can confirm this or can look into more about what it means, it suggests, or it's being suggested by many people, someone, somehow, made the best bet imaginable were it to have been that Trump did not tilt his head forward three degrees.
robert barnes
And it fits a pattern.
I mean, you go back to 9-11, there were people shorting airline stocks right before 9-11.
Some of that was never fully explained.
There were some people that tied it into a range of different complicit parties.
And what it is, is people can't help themselves.
Somebody has inside information, wants to make a ton of money, and they get rich off of it, and they're part of the complicit parties.
But when you're looking for some sort of broad-based conspiracy or complicity or inside job at some level with one of these kind of dramatic events, that you look for unusual stock activities, either buying
stock or shorting stock, that is connected to an enterprise that is
going to have a massive stock adjustment in response to that particular
event. And if this really happened, we don't know for sure, but it
appears it happened, then this is extraordinarily suspect and Congress, if they're
luke rudkowski
serious, needs to investigate. And that's the same thing we saw during COVID
with Senator insider That's the same thing we saw during 9-11 with stock options specifically on United and American Airlines that were never kind of clarified to who actually profited tremendously from as of course there was also weird insurance policies there but I'll stop there.
viva frei
Just to clarify for everyone out there, for those who are too young to remember, the short selling of airline stocks pre 9-11 is not a rumor, it's not an unsubstantiated accusation, it's a bona fide fact.
robert barnes
Oh yeah, so there's no question.
And they've had different explanations as to who did it and why they did it and why it may or may not be related.
But the scale and scope of the short, which is what Tim is pointing out... It was record, record.
Exactly.
It was extraordinary.
riley gaines
But you're saying they never really got to the bottom of it?
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Conveniently.
tim pool
I wonder why they never investigated that.
Because If someone is going to make a bet that a stock is going to fail right before a cataclysmic event, it indicates, at the very least, some foreknowledge or astronomically dumb luck.
viva frei
Betting something's going to go down within a certain period of time.
At the end of a month or so, you have to buy it back.
And so if it goes up and skyrockets like what we saw with GameStop, then whoever shorted it gets screwed because they got to buy back stock they don't actually own for the market price, which could be through the roof.
Bottom line, something bad's going to happen within a month to DJT.
Sell it short now.
And you don't even know when or where on what specific date just within that time.
riley gaines
And how long this $12 million, what was the time period you were saying?
tim pool
I don't know if it says on here.
riley gaines
No, I mean of, you said it's a larger number than all of them combined.
tim pool
12 million is the largest, it says put option, it's the largest we've seen than, I mean if you were to add them all up it doesn't reach 12 million.
robert barnes
It's the biggest single bet that Trump's stock was going to dramatically decline in a very short order.
riley gaines
So who's this company?
robert barnes
That we don't know yet.
tim pool
I mean, I mean, it looks like just a wealth management company.
It looks like they've got a lot of holdings.
It looks fairly normal.
And this is important, too.
It may be unrelated to that company.
robert barnes
Right.
tim pool
If they're a wealth management firm and a client went to them and said, hey, I want to do, you know, make this purchase for me.
They go, you got a boss.
Or it could be like one company says we want to move some of our holdings with it from you guys to a short on this.
We don't know who it was.
There's probably layers after layers after layers on this one.
hannah claire brimelow
And do you think we'd ever get an answer?
Because that's the problem for most American people.
It's either too confusing to follow or you just wait forever and it gets buried in all the news cycles.
tim pool
The answer is yes.
viva frei
The White Pill October Surprise.
The leaker.
Someone comes forward and says, who put in that order?
Or the company.
You go find it out and see who they're connected to.
tim pool
Well, no, no, no.
I mean, look.
First, I'll say...
There's always a possibility of astronomical odds that someone just made the purchase.
I also want to point out I don't know enough about Fintel, and I don't know enough about how PUT and all this stuff works to be able to say definitively we know what this is.
It's just rumors circulating around.
However, in the event that the rumors are correct, and this is a massive, record-breaking short sale against Donald Trump as a person, because without him there's no Truth Social, I do believe we'll get an answer to this question.
And Tucker Carlson said it better than I could.
He said, there are many people in Congress who fully expect themselves to be on that stage at some point, to be in the same position.
And if they feel that they cannot be safe in that position, then they, like, It's going to make them very upset.
The incentive now is for basically every senator and member of Congress with presidential ambitions to get to the bottom of this before they reach that throne room.
viva frei
And according to NASDAQ, Fintel is a leading provider of financial data and insights for intelligence data-driven investors with coverage of over 75,000 listed companies on all major stock exchanges.
Fintel has the most comprehensive coverage of global equities at prices in the world.
tim pool
And the website says, funds shorting Trump Media and Technology Group.
Green rows indicate new positions.
The website says Austin Private Wealth has a 12 million share short on DJT the day before someone tried to take his life.
robert barnes
Exactly.
viva frei
4chan.
You know what to do.
hannah claire brimelow
That's interesting, though.
I mean, when people are looking for answers, more and more, it's the Internet that provides them, not any of the officials, not even any of the investigative journalists.
A lot of it is just online.
viva frei
Well, no crap.
I mean, if the if the Internet and legacy media existed at the time of JFK, I mean, you might have had the term conspiracy coined and they might have said he fell and, you know, knocked.
If it weren't in the age of digital media, social media and independent journalists for what happened on on Saturday in Pennsylvania, They'd move on to another story by now, right?
hannah claire brimelow
There was a woman who posted a video being in Times Square in a restaurant and she's like, because of Twitter I know what's going on, I know about this attempted assassination, but none of the TVs are playing any breaking news, right?
It's like you live in two separate worlds, people that are plugged into the internet, which admittedly sometimes it's not so good, and people who exist in this other space that is insulated to them because of the mainstream media.
viva frei
Now I do remember it was Tim who said he was playing poker, and he got the news and someone else got the news, but it wasn't on any of the mainstream media outlets.
tim pool
It's so crazy to me.
I thought, if something like that were to happen, you'd get an intercom announcement from management at the casino being like, ladies and gentlemen, we regret to inform you, this thing happened, it is a shocking moment in American history.
I mean, every TV channel, every news channel was talking about it.
But in the poker room and in the casino, they're just playing football or baseball and sporting events and nobody knew.
robert barnes
Well, you know who should investigate this?
This is a Texas-based business.
So remember, the Kennedy assassination only got exposed because the New Orleans prosecutor decided to investigate it.
The feds tried to keep a wrap on it.
The Attorney General Paxton has complete jurisdiction.
And it'd be interesting whether some of the people connected to this enterprise are Paxton adversaries as well.
Are they Bush family ties?
I mean, it is interesting, it's a technical issue.
tim pool
Well, it's called Austin Private Wealth, but who knows, it could be Austin, Maine or something, I don't know.
robert barnes
Oh, it could be, but it's Austin, Texas-based, that's enough for him to have jurisdiction.
tim pool
We know that for a fact, though?
robert barnes
That's my understanding, from my research of it, it does.
tim pool
Okay.
robert barnes
So it'd be enough for, all Paxton has to do is just do a further investigation, it gives him jurisdiction, it gives him a nexus, it gives him a connection.
tim pool
That's what I was saying, it's called Austin, but I don't know that it's in Austin, but you've seen that?
robert barnes
Yeah, when I researched it, it was an Austin, Texas-based business.
tim pool
You know what's fascinating is when the put options were put on airline stock right before 9-11, how would any regular person track that data?
They would not.
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Right.
tim pool
You know, this is back in a time where trading on Wall Street was still done by dudes screaming and waving paper in the air.
Yeah.
You know, there's a guy whose job it is to look crazy on the floor of the Stock Exchange in New York.
He's got crazy white hair.
And whenever a story about the Stock Exchange happens, he makes a crazy look on his face and they take pictures of him because they want that symbol of the Stock Exchange.
But we're not in the narrative.
It's robots doing all this trading now.
It's algorithms and machines.
But that also means that You know, Joe Schmoe in the middle of Nebraska can go on to Fintel.io and look and see this just happened in real time and say, whoa, whoa!
And they can call their member of Congress and say, can you get a subpoena to this company, Austin Private Wealth, and ask them why they shorted Donald Trump's Truth Social to the tune of 12 million shares the day before someone tried to take his life?
riley gaines
But if this was someone or an entity that supposedly knew about it, wouldn't they be smarter than to do this?
hannah claire brimelow
No, they're greedy.
They're greedy.
riley gaines
So they're greed.
viva frei
Well, meanwhile, talking about the big squeeze, not only did it not short, but the share surged in the wake of him surviving.
What happened to that short position?
tim pool
Oh, they're gonna lose so much money.
viva frei
They're screwed.
tim pool
Let's do one last little analogy.
I will borrow Hannah Clare's Coca-Cola.
These go for $1.
I then say, I'll get you your Coke back in a week.
Hey, I'll sell you this for $1.
I now have $1.
Uh-oh, bad news.
The cost of Coke just jumped to $10, and I owe Hannah Clare a Coke.
So I gotta pull an extra $9 out of my pocket to buy it back from Viva, and I just lost $9, and I go, damn.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, don't drink that high fructose corn syrup, by the way.
viva frei
Also, don't short stocks.
It's an easy way to lose a lot of money quickly.
tim pool
Oh, because the losses are infinity.
viva frei
Well, then they have margins, but they won't let you.
luke rudkowski
And that's why Bill Gates is being screwed over with what he's trying to do with Elon Musk.
Bill Gates is trying to short Tesla, and there's a lot of rumors specifically showing how he's losing a crap ton of money.
tim pool
Depending on how you handle your short, I mean, growth can skyrocket out of control and force you to sell rapidly, and it can cost you a lot of money.
Whereas, if you spend ten bucks on a share and it goes to zero, you lost ten bucks.
But let's jump to this next story, ladies and gentlemen.
It only gets stranger.
From the Postmillennial, Secret Service flagged would-be assassin as threat ten minutes before Trump went on stage.
Quote, You would think over the course of that hour you shouldn't lose sight of the individual.
Somebody ought to be following up on those sorts of things.
No evidence of that happening at all, Senator John Barrasso said.
Okay, so here's what we know so far.
Three hours before the attempt on Trump's life, they identified this man with a rangefinder and flagged him.
An hour.
Three hours.
That's the latest.
They reported this this morning.
They knew for three hours when he tried getting in.
An hour before the shooting, another officer identified him as suspicious, again, using a rangefinder, tracking distances.
riley gaines
And when you say they knew, Secret Service?
tim pool
Police.
luke rudkowski
Law enforcement.
hannah claire brimelow
As they say, he was known to them.
luke rudkowski
CNN reported they called him in as a suspicious individual to keep an eye out on.
tim pool
Now hold on, hold on.
Uh, so then 26 minutes before the shooting, you had a police photograph him, a direct encounter.
At some point within this time frame, another officer.
Then at some point within this time frame, two officers approached the building.
One officer lifted the cop up so he could pull himself up and peek on the roof, and the shooter aimed a weapon at him, and he called it in, shoot around the roof.
We don't know how long from that point to when the man took a shot at Trump, but you still had a lot of time.
Now, This is the biggest break so far.
The Secret Service flagged a threat 10 minutes before Trump went on stage.
I'm sure Dan Bongino is screaming up a storm saying, impossible, impossible!
The Secret Service being told there is a threat, a man with a rangefinder, And Trump is not out on stage, would keep him in the holding room or whatever.
Dan Bongino already talked about this on the show.
He said, in Secret Service, you have a holding area.
Why?
You hold people there while you're clearing a threat.
If you get a threat, you then say, wait, we're going to clear the threat.
This would mean the Secret Service knew there was a threat and pushed Trump out, violating protocol.
To add on to this, and again, shout out to Dan Bongino, he pointed out, it's absurd that they did not have someone on that roof.
And it's also even crazier, if they couldn't because it was sloped or whatever, which is insane, they would have broken line of sight.
He said they would put up a campaign poster or something so you couldn't see the stage.
It would make the shot random.
Why didn't they do this?
We've got even more information.
Apparently, local police are saying Secret Service lied when they claimed that it was supposed to be local law enforcement securing the roof.
Secret Service would never hand off a sniper vantage point to a local police department, and local police are saying their only duty was traffic control.
This whole thing is breaking apart.
We're going to get into the next bit of the story, but I want to give everybody a chance to talk about it, where in a briefing with members of the Senate, they answered four questions and then bolted out of the room.
It's looking more and more like, oh, I'm going to love to say it, inside job.
luke rudkowski
I've been saying that from day one.
It was the first thing that I thought about, it was the first thing that I said, because independent media, including yourself, Tim, Alex Jones, Tucker Carlson, and myself were saying, there's going to be an attempt on the President's life.
Donald Trump needs to assassinate proof himself.
So when the events happened, this is something that we've been saying was going to happen.
So when it did, automatically, everyone's red flags kind of went up saying, who's responsible for this?
Because there's no way someone, a loner, a 20 year old kid who also, by the way, had Two different explosive devices and a detonator with him, with him allegedly not having any kind of skill when it comes to explosives.
He was also a very troubled young man, and there's a crap ton of articles out there, even from the corporate media, specifically highlighting how the FBI preys on mentally ill people, specifically young men, and tries to use them in order to goat them to commit larger terrorist actions.
tim pool
I want to play this clip for you guys real quick and hear from Fox News.
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Secret Service had identified as a character of suspicion this man, this shooter, because they saw a rangefinder on him as well as a backpack.
And this all happened more than an hour before the shooting actually occurred.
So they saw the guy and they identified this guy as suspicious.
Now, More details coming from a source familiar here, who was also in the meeting, tells me that about 10 minutes before former President Trump went onto the stage, they had gone from looking at this guy as suspicious to now looking at him as a threat.
tim pool
I don't see how this could be an accident.
luke rudkowski
Let me steal madness.
And now his cell phone was cleaned so they can't get any data or information out of it.
The average person doesn't know how to do that, especially a young 20-year-old with no social media history.
Absolutely total inside job from start to finish.
viva frei
Let me steal madness.
He was out golfing, he had the range finder, he needed to position the hole.
And the backpack was, you know, extra golf clubs.
It's obvious.
There's a little detail, which also I think is newly breaking, that apparently the parents had called the police two hours before, saying their son was gone, missing, they think he might have had a gun, and they're nervous about him.
hannah claire brimelow
He used to be going to a range practice shooting, and when he didn't come home by 1 p.m., they became concerned.
And that should tell you a lot, right?
He's a 20-year-old man, and he hasn't even been missing for 24 hours, and his parents are already like, something is not right.
We need to find him.
robert barnes
Well, and they're looking at sound acoustics, they're looking at trajectory, and everything points to a potential second or third shooter.
viva frei
Right.
robert barnes
I mean, is it likely the kid who couldn't make his own shooting team is the guy who did it?
tim pool
Well, one detail, too, that... I don't know if someone can factor this for me real quick, that I've seen on X, is that there was more than one sniper team that had eyes on the shooter, and in fact, the image everyone's sharing of two guys on that barn-sloped building are not the men who took out the shooter.
Their view was actually obstructed.
So then the question is, how many snipers did Secret Service have watching this guy that no one took action upon?
robert barnes
And were there actually people right underneath him in that building, according to various stories that are coming out?
I mean, there's no explanation for how this could happen with any competent security.
So the only question was, is it extraordinary recklessness or an inside job?
tim pool
There's no way it's recklessness.
What did you call it?
Fractal wrongness?
viva frei
Fractal wrongness.
There's no way it's negligence.
There were overt decisions that were made.
And you hear, the thing is, even if you weren't inclined to believe that, you listen to Kim Cheadle's interview, and her answers don't make sense.
Even based on what we know.
They weren't on the roof because it was too sloped.
As if we're talking about protecting the president from assassination and you're worried about a twisted ankle of secret service and the other roof is even more sloped.
Her answers don't even make sense with it.
Inside job or someone just allowed this to happen.
Or MKUltra.
hannah claire brimelow
MKUltra is not a conspiracy though.
The Daily Mail is reporting that there were two sniper teams that both had view of the roof that Crooks was on.
riley gaines
How many shots did the shooter get off?
tim pool
Was it eight?
robert barnes
There's inconsistency, because there's sound that says one thing, there's timing, there's suggestions that he really should have only been able to get off three or four, and yet they got to explain more than that.
So that's where some of the questions are arising as to whether there was more than one shooter.
tim pool
I've not analyzed the audio or anything like that, but some people are pointing out that you're not hearing multiple shots, you're hearing echoes.
robert barnes
Right, that's always possible.
And you don't know which way.
The other thing is where the trajectory is, where he was doesn't seem as consistent as where the bullet came from.
So, I mean, and there's already people pointing out second and third potential shooter locations.
tim pool
Well, eyewitnesses on the day of did say more than one shooter.
That being said, when people don't know what's going on, she may be talking about the Secret Service.
robert barnes
Well, it's the same thing as the Vegas shooting.
So, I mean, because of the Echoes and the other issues, there's always been questions as to exactly what happened.
tim pool
I gotta tell you, it is really fascinating.
For people who have no experience with guns, they genuinely... I do not believe they would understand where the bullet is coming from.
With Echo, they'd be confused, and they'd say, I heard a shot over there, and then immediately a shot over there, and it's like, right, because the sound bounces.
hannah claire brimelow
A lot of the eyewitness reports immediately were, well, we thought it was fireworks.
I mean, not everyone can even identify the sound of a gunshot, and I don't blame them for that, right?
It's a deeply confusing situation, especially when you're going to an event like this where you believe that there is not just... You have trust that Secret Service or police, law enforcement, they've done their job.
It's not just security.
The best security in the world, because theoretically it's supposed to be protecting the former president of the United States.
And in fact, you know, the head of the FBI right now used to be involved with the Biden detail.
I mean, I saw an interview with Eric Trump saying, you know, I know these service members have been around for a long time.
It's one of those moments where I'm sure if you're the Trump family right now, you are both Not wanting to cast doubt on agents who you have known, have had in your home, have a personal relationship with, and also looking at this agency like, how did this happen?
How did we get here?
I mean, this is still the agency that is protecting Donald Trump right now.
It must on some level be sort of terrifying.
You're putting your trust into people and you don't really know.
riley gaines
I saw an interview with Eric Trump who did say, he was like, look, these are people who We have known and we've trusted.
We've seen people on social media saying they didn't do a good job, they weren't thorough, they weren't effective.
They did their job.
So again, I think it shows that they do, they know and love these people.
tim pool
But it's important to understand there's the Trump detail, which is a small handful of Secret Service they probably know and trust, and then the rest of them who are at that rally who they don't know.
robert barnes
Well, and my understanding is a bunch of the Trump detail was pulled off that day, because they needed vacation time, and they suggested this.
riley gaines
That's where all the women came in.
robert barnes
And not only that, a second group, the best people locally, were also pulled off for Jill Biden, because Jill Biden was doing a fundraiser in Pittsburgh at the same time.
tim pool
I saw what Mike Cernovich posted about this, and it's actually terrifying.
We talked about what would have happened had Trump not tilted his head but a few degrees.
And, you know, Viva, you mentioned it would be like Franz Ferdinand.
It would be the ignition for urban domestic conflict as well as international conflict.
Mike Cernovich basically said, you know, his view of the plan was after Trump is taken out, Joe Biden uses this emergency to launch extreme executive authority and then lock things down across the country, control the elections.
I don't know exactly how it would play out or what would happen, but I do imagine that the federal government would go full Directive 51.
For those that aren't familiar with that, it was an executive order put in play by George W. Bush in 2000, I think it was 2007, which says that in any kind of emergency, extreme catastrophic event, economic crisis, loss of life, The President of the United States can create and reform the U.S.
government under a new constitutional government, and it would put a national continuity coordinator in executive authority.
It would functionally make the executive branch the sole branch of government, overriding basically everything else.
We've wondered when and how they would ever try to make a move like that.
Barack Obama updated this.
It was called Directive 51.
I imagine if this actually did harm Trump, I would not be surprised if you ended up seeing, whether it's false flag or otherwise, chaos erupting, insurgency, and then Joe Biden coming out and rubber-stamping some decree, some executive order.
RINOs in the Uniparty-established Republican Party saying, now is not the time.
We need security in this country.
These people are crazy.
And then you'd end up with Nikki Haley going on stage and saying, I will be your nominee.
luke rudkowski
I think the next step following that would be that there would be a larger push for gun control, and there would be a larger push to disarm the American public, which would lead us towards a larger perpetual war within the United States.
And I was talking about this earlier on my Rumble show with Benny Johnson specifically.
If the assassination attempt was successful, this would have put us on a pathway that would have stopped the election, suspended the Constitution, and allowed them to essentially set up a martial law.
tim pool
They were going to blame Iran.
They're now saying that Iran had made an attempt, but uh-oh, Trump tilted his head.
I'm willing to bet the whole play was, we blame it on Iran, we go to war with Iran.
That's our castus belli.
It keeps the establishment forces in control, it removes Trump, Trump didn't name a successor or a VP, the MAGA base is in chaos, Nikki Haley becomes the nominee with second most delegates, and then vows retaliation against Iran, and we've already talked about this.
On X, even Trump supporters, neocons, dissented supporters, everybody agreed, if a foreign entity assassinated our president, be it Biden or Trump, the U.S.
must retaliate.
Because you are not a nation if you cannot defend your leader from an enemy attack.
This is scary how close we came to World War III and, I guess, fascism.
robert barnes
Well, and Pompeo was going to be the VP.
I mean, he was telling people, the Iowa delegation here, I was talking to them, he was telling them all week that he was going to be the VP.
tim pool
Really?
robert barnes
Yeah, so you can imagine, Haley Pompeo is the ticket, the former ex-CIA guy.
Thank you.
tim pool
But he was really telling people.
robert barnes
He was really telling people.
The Iowa delegates were telling my friend, who was also an Iowa delegate, saying, oh no, it's definitely going to be Pompeo.
Which I think what that meant was, they thought it was going to be Nikki Haley and Pompeo.
unidentified
Wow.
robert barnes
And it was going to be a perfect national security ticket.
That way the deep state wins either way, whether it's Biden, Harris, or whomever.
hannah claire brimelow
Did you see that?
Sorry, Hayley said during her speech, Trump wanted me to be here, and then there's a cut to Trump, like somebody did the lip reading and he was like, actually, she wanted to be here.
tim pool
He says that?
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, apparently she asked to be here, which I totally believe.
She wasn't even supposed to be at the convention before the assassination attempt.
viva frei
One thing, just on the Iranian angle to it, they preloaded it with information that came out after the botched assassination attempt, which now no longer makes any sense.
Alright, so they had intel that Iran was trying to kill President Trump, and then laxed on security, and then left open the sniper vantage point, and then told people to take the day off, and then when that information comes out, it makes absolutely no sense.
Had he been killed, then they say, alright, a lone gunman.
Oh, he's a, he's registered GOP.
Not mentioning that he donated to Biden through ActBlue.
Oh, and he's got, then Iran was threatening things, and now we find things on his social media that tie him to Iran, and now we get to justify a war with Iran.
tim pool
Nothing makes sense.
There's no narrative, it's just...
Pure chaos.
But I tell you this, no reasonable person could conclude a lone whack job got lucky.
The Secret Service knew there was a threat ten minutes in advance and pushed Trump out onto the stage with smiles on their faces.
That is not normal.
robert barnes
And what you have is people writing the Deep State Simulation script are the same people that are writing for Disney these days.
tim pool
Oh yeah.
robert barnes
And you have the same level of quality and the same level of believability, the same level of credibility.
tim pool
I gotta say just real quick, we have more to the story, but Donald Trump tilted his head three degrees.
Watch all of the assessments, the 3D analysis.
I mean, we, if Donald Trump did not just, it's within like a second and a half, Trump just tilt his head a little bit, and you can see that it was, there's a new video they put out.
riley gaines
Crosshairs.
tim pool
The crosshairs over Trump's head, and then the tilt, and you can see it going over his ear.
Let me pull up this, we have a tweet from Senator Ron Johnson.
The U.S.
Secret Service Senate briefing was unbelievably uninformative.
Only four questions were allowed.
The rest of us are supposed to submit questions.
I already have awaiting a response, not holding my breath.
We've got this.
Colin, uh, I'm sorry, let me pull up Senator Mike Lee.
He says, Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheadle needs to step down immediately.
Today's mostly information-free briefing only confirmed that.
What little information she gave us was at once deeply troubling and glaringly incomplete.
At least three of us, Senator Blackburn, Cruz, and me, had sought recognition to ask questions and were in the queue when they abruptly cut the call short.
The Secret Service agreed to give us this briefing.
Normally, federal agencies that agree to brief us will do their best to answer all of our questions, even if it takes a little while.
Never in my 13 years in the Senate have I seen a briefing end after answering only four questions.
If I'm not mistaken, three of the four questions allowed were asked by Democrats.
So why hold the briefing if they weren't going to tell us anything?
Why the hell did Secret Service let Trump walk on stage before resolving the potential threat that they had by then identified?
How many requests that Secret Service assign additional agents to the Trump campaign have been ignored or rejected over the last two years?
Why wasn't a single agent positioned on that roof?
Would Secret Service ever let Joe Biden walk on stage before resolving a specific known security threat?
Has it ever happened?
Which of its obvious failures will Secret Service try to blame on climate change?
That's a good one.
What do these Secret Service failures say to America's foreign adversaries, and what kinds of horrible things will they encourage?
Once the perception sets in that the security surrounding a presidential candidate can be circumvented this easily, should we expect to see more assassination attempts?
Why isn't Biden taking action against his own Secret Service Director and Homeland Security Secretary?
If this incident doesn't warrant firing some people, what does?
Were they trying to half-ass this?
I'm not even sure this qualifies as a half-assed effort.
Is there such a thing as quarter-assing?
I want to point this out.
riley gaines
I hope you submitted these.
tim pool
Tucker Carlson predicted we're in assassination territory.
They have changed laws to prosecute Trump.
They have created fake criminal charges to prosecute Trump.
I want to stress this to the utmost degree.
The hush money case against Donald Trump had no statutory basis.
It was expired.
It was a misdemeanor.
I think perhaps for the first time, Barnes, or correct me if I'm wrong, they have assigned a crime to Donald Trump without due process by stating that Trump committed a secondary offense for which you can charge him for a first offense.
Without ever having a due process court hearing to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, Trump committed any crimes, and then they upgrade to this felony, they have taken unprecedented actions to hinder and stop Donald Trump and ruin his life.
Tucker Carlson said, they have failed and now we're looking at assassination territory.
So when all of these things happen, and we get to this point, I have one question for everybody and for everybody watching.
Do you believe Trump Derangement Syndrome exists?
First question.
The second.
Based on everything we've seen from Libs of TikTok's account, do you believe there are American citizens who want Donald Trump to die?
And third question, is it possible any of those people work for the Secret Service?
riley gaines
Trump Derangement Syndrome certainly exists.
Have you seen Keith Olbermann?
Have you seen people like Joy Reid?
These people who constantly tout and do make the comparisons of him to Hitler, what have you.
TDS certainly exists.
Question number two, what was it?
tim pool
Are there people in this country who want Donald Trump dead?
riley gaines
Libs of TikTok has done such a phenomenal job in highlighting these people, and many of them ultimately getting fired from their jobs.
tim pool
And the last question is, is it possible any of these people work for the Secret Service?
riley gaines
I will say my hometown, right?
I'm from Tennessee.
We had a girl from Dutch Bros, which is like a coffee place.
She tweeted on there or put on Facebook the same thing.
Several people are tweeting, right?
Dang, I wish the shooter didn't miss.
There's no way someone like her works for the Secret Service.
tim pool
And I feel like that's a lot of what we're seeing is just Didn't Libs of TikTok highlight an FBI staffer who did express similar sentiment?
riley gaines
Several staffers on the Hill, members of Congress, senators.
tim pool
If these people truly believe that Donald Trump is Hitler, as they've screamed for eight years, and these people have been radicalized, when you see someone go on Facebook and say these things, It is not unreasonable to conclude similar sentiments are held by people in secret service or law enforcement, and they are willing to take the utmost egregious actions.
viva frei
TDS, it's just an iteration of mass formation psychosis or group psychology.
Of course it exists.
You call it TDS, but it has another actual clinical term.
And you whip people up into a frenzy enough over a long enough period of time, and you will get groups of people to believe absurdities and be able to commit atrocities.
tim pool
I do want to say real quick, there actually is a medical term for TDS.
It's officially called, and this is true, Trump Anxiety Disorder.
I'm not kidding.
viva frei
Well, it's an iteration.
There's something called folie a deux, folie a trois, when two people go crazy together.
hannah claire brimelow
And they make it worse.
I mean, there's like a famous set of twins that did this, right?
They pushed each other farther.
viva frei
It's called folie a deux, which is French for Folly by two.
luke rudkowski
Viva, great point, and I would even add to that point that you made that both of these kind of derangement syndromes and this mass psychosis were created by the intel agencies that of course use the institutions, use the universities, social media, and big media in order to propagate a lot of this kind of psychosis over the American people.
So even if you don't want to connect all the dots with the conspiracies of what happened here, they're responsible for creating this situation in this scenario, which is a part of a larger divide-and-conquer agenda.
viva frei
Everybody knows what MKLTRA is, Operation MKLTRA, what they did.
luke rudkowski
It's a real thing.
It's not a conspiracy.
They literally tried to get people to assassinate someone by controlling their minds, and they were doing experiments with that.
viva frei
Experiments rooted in McGill University in Montreal at the Al Memorial Institution.
But the other thing that you mentioned, and people also need to be sensitive to, like go to the Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping plot, or as I call it, the Fednapping plot.
They get vulnerable people who are mentally unwell, mentally unstable, don't have any friends, social anxiety, don't have good friends.
Absolutely.
Now I'd like to know what the connection was between FBI intelligence and the assassin, or the would-be assassin in this case.
I guarantee you there is one.
luke rudkowski
But they won't find out because the phone has been wiped.
The phone has been somehow wiped so they can't get any data or information out of it magically now.
hannah claire brimelow
I think this is why it's so telling that Kimberly Chito, the director of the Secret Service, has yet, as far as I know, to hold a press conference on this, right?
She has had time to do an ABC interview, but she hasn't been able to sort of stand up in front of a camera and say, here's what we know.
I mean, even, you know, smaller agencies when there are, you know, tragedies.
unidentified
Right.
hannah claire brimelow
And even if they say nothing, they're like, there was an incident.
We are investigating it.
We're not releasing it.
They have the dignity to at least stand before their community and say, here is our acknowledging that something has gone wrong.
We are investigating it.
You know, it's frustrating when you're a reporter because you're like, I know that you know more than you're saying.
And they'll say, oh, to protect whatever privacy of whoever.
Kimberly Cheeto doesn't even bother to do that.
And I think that's interesting, right?
Either they are such a disorganized agency that they cannot manage themselves and are possibly controlled by someone else, or DHS, which controls the Secret Service, and Kimberly Cheeto are actively aware of how obviously they were involved and they are not willing to talk about it because they know there's no way to cover it up.
viva frei
Who heads the DHS?
Is it a certain Alejandro Mayorkas?
hannah claire brimelow
I don't know if you know what he's famous for.
viva frei
An invasion of America?
hannah claire brimelow
He has single-handedly allowed an invasion of the American southern border, and he is not sorry about it.
And that's the thing.
He does not care about national security.
Why would he care about the security of any elected officials, especially Donald Trump?
viva frei
I went on a bit of a rage-tweeting binge last night because I watched that Kim Cheadle interview.
And the nonchalantness with which she describes it.
It's crazy.
Yes, the buck stops with me.
We'll make sure this never happens again.
It never happened again.
You talk like you left the front door open and the dog got out of the house.
hannah claire brimelow
When she says, it'll never happen again, I'm always like, but what was your goal?
unidentified
What are you talking about?
viva frei
It should never have happened in the first place.
You need to resign and there need to be investigations into you and you need to be potentially charged and potentially locked up.
Oh, it'll never happen again.
And no, I'm not resigning.
riley gaines
She doesn't need to resign.
She needs to be fired.
viva frei
She needs to be arrested, charged and imprisoned.
And I'll say it.
It's not excusable.
Oh, it's my first day.
hannah claire brimelow
Speaker Mike Johnson during an interview with Fox News asked about this and he said, I'm going to call for her resignation.
I mean, there are a lot of pressure coming, especially from Republicans.
Right.
To say that this is not acceptable.
But the answer is she is sort of protected by the Biden administration.
I mean, we know what has happened because of illegal immigration in this country.
And Mayorkas is still up.
robert barnes
Well, if they would meaningfully investigate it, that could substantially help.
I mean, the reason why we know about MKUltra is because of the House Intelligence Committee.
luke rudkowski
The Church Commission hearings.
robert barnes
Yeah, the Church Commission hearings.
The House Committee on Assassinations is how we found out about all of that.
And to Tim's question about do we believe high-ranking government officials have TDS, well, we know from Russiagate that that's what happened.
We know that Mueller was filled with that.
We know the first and second impeachments were filled with that.
So, I mean, the Secret Service files went missing after January 6th?
tim pool
No, I would push back on that.
I don't think the first, second impeachments were Trump derangement syndrome.
I think those were individuals who were of clear mind and were intentionally targeting Donald Trump with lies and manipulation.
Trump derangement syndrome people going on social media wishing for the death of Donald Trump.
They are brainwashed and have shattered minds from fake news.
But when it comes to, say, the Ukraine scandal, that was Joe Biden engaging in a quid pro quo with the president of Ukraine in the video where he famously says, if you don't fire the prosecutor, you're not getting the billion dollars.
They fabricate a scenario to blame that on Donald Trump instead.
and they said Trump was digging up dirt on his political opponents.
The fascinating thing is, Joe Biden's on camera admitting to a crime, by their own standard,
and when Donald Trump tried to investigate that crime, they accused Trump of the crime
and impeached him for it. That's not derangement, that's strategic.
viva frei
If I'm...
robert barnes
Yeah, it's confession to projection at every level.
I mean, but you see it with the Vindman's, you see it with everything, the head of counterintelligence, you look at Peter Stroke, you look at James Baker, you look at James Comey.
tim pool
Clinesmith fabricated evidence to put an innocent man in prison.
robert barnes
Yes.
And these are some of the highest ranking law enforcement people in the country.
And some of the highest ranking State Department people in the country.
tim pool
Now, I will ask another question for you guys.
Did you see the reporting about how there are members of federal law enforcement who are terrified and have expressed that they will flee the country if Trump wins?
You guys have seen this reporting?
Is it possible any of those people don't want to leave the country and may take other actions instead?
viva frei
I want to throw in a little doom pill, black pill here, going back to Kim Cheadle.
Her name is Cheadle, by the way.
I mean, Noman S. Oman.
Let's cheat a little to win this election.
She was so nonchalant, it enraged me.
And I'm a polite, docile Canadian.
It seemed to be so nonchalant and so downgrading what actually happened to trigger somebody's like, I'm going to go out and do something now because this is so insulting.
My president nearly got his head blown off.
And you're talking about like, oh, well, it'll never happen again.
So I believe that she's deliberately antagonistically being nonchalant about what happened to try to provoke someone to do something stupid so they can then say, oh, woe is me.
We're the victims now.
hannah claire brimelow
And after she said, the buck stops with me.
We're in charge of this.
But that building was actually being secured by local law enforcement, right?
She's not actually trying to take responsibility.
It's crazy to me that there would be a building so close to the president that she's like, you guys take hold of this.
We're responsible for security.
unidentified
But can you just secure that area for us?
hannah claire brimelow
Thanks.
I mean, there's there's no desire to be held accountable at all.
tim pool
Let's jump to this story.
We have a post from Charlie Kirk.
MSNBC's Joy Reid just said that Trump's surviving an assassination attempt is viewed as a sign of strength, and she thinks Joe Biden recovering from COVID should be seen the same way.
riley gaines
Please.
tim pool
Please.
riley gaines
There's no way.
tim pool
Let's play it.
unidentified
Let's play it.
joy reid
Question that I have on that.
These two men are both elderly.
Donald Trump is an elderly man who, for whatever reason, was given nine seconds to take an iconic photo op during an active shooter.
Weird situation, we'll figure that out one day.
But his survival of that and bouncing right back and going right to his convention is being conveyed in the media world as a sign of strength.
This current president of the United States is 81 years old and has COVID.
Should he be fine in a couple of days?
Doesn't that convey exactly the same thing?
viva frei
Is she the dumbest?
She's not dumb.
tim pool
That's evil.
hannah claire brimelow
She's not even confident he's gonna be fine.
tim pool
She said, should he be fine?
I gotta shout out Riley over here.
You said, oh, they cut it.
riley gaines
Have you seen the clip, though?
tim pool
MSNBC is never going to show a feeble Joe Biden struggling to walk up stairs.
riley gaines
You've got to find the clip.
He looks decrepit.
I mean, he is decrepit.
He's decrepit going up these stairs.
He takes a break at every step, catches his breath, gets his footing, goes to the next step.
tim pool
Did you see the meme?
It was me after leg day, and he's like struggling to walk up the stairs.
riley gaines
Do they really just compare those two things?
hannah claire brimelow
Well, and she's suggesting that he was, like, given nine seconds to take a photo of, as if this were a staged thing.
viva frei
You have to be sick in the flipping head to actually think that way.
The man just survived a freaking assassination attempt, and it's a conspiracy.
They let him look strong.
riley gaines
Take out Trump in this.
There is a real person who died.
There is a real person who lost his life during this, and to handle this with, again, the nonchalance, with the idea, the attitude that whatever, it was a big stage thing.
There is a person who died, a father, a husband, who lost his life.
Had his brains blown out in front of everyone, in front of his daughters, his daughter and his wife, and to handle it with this sort of nonchalance and then compare it to having COVID?
Oh my gosh, how do normal people watch this?
tim pool
The photographer's name is Evan Vucci.
I wonder if he could use some legal advice over the accusation that is part of a grand conspiracy to stage a martyrdom photo for Donald Trump.
robert barnes
Well, I mean, the liberal lawyers have apprised us that if you make a false accusation of that kind, you could be sued for billions of dollars.
tim pool
Well, I think it was the entire GDP of France, wasn't it?
robert barnes
Yeah, exactly.
That's what the demand was.
Yeah, they wanted $3 trillion initially.
I mean, that's what they wanted from Alex Jones.
And now there's another Austin connection to all this, because the business is an Austin business, supposedly, that was involved in shorting the stock.
But look, they even did a meme.
They have a Joe Biden with a rainbow flag in the background.
tim pool
Did you see there's an anonymous editor suggesting that the media should pull the photo because it's being used as Trump to help his campaign?
robert barnes
Oh wow.
tim pool
Like heaven forbid the truth benefit Donald Trump.
robert barnes
Yo, I think, one, they didn't expect that reaction.
I mean, it was one of the most extraordinary heroic reactions I've ever witnessed in a lifetime.
tim pool
I just want to say, could you imagine assuming, let's just play hypothetically, you know, I'll be nice.
This is a conspiracy by the deep state or whoever to take out their political rival.
And instead, he tilts his head, they miss, and then he raises his fist and gets one of the most iconic photos in history.
I mean, talk about slipping on a banana peel.
robert barnes
Oh, I mean, it's a complete flipping of the script.
I mean, it's extraordinary.
You couldn't narrate this.
You couldn't pre-write this.
unidentified
No.
robert barnes
This was just Trump showing character and courage right in the moment of what most people would be shocked and horrified by.
tim pool
The picture of Joe Biden recovering from COVID and raising his fist.
riley gaines
The same courage.
The same string.
viva frei
That is wild.
The amazing thing is, we talk about an act of God, divine intervention, and, you know, the man Corey, who died in front of his family, protecting his family, and it's tough to reconcile those two things.
I say, like, when Trump tilted his head, it wasn't just a gesture that saved his life.
I genuinely, thoroughly, in my heart of hearts, believe it was a gesture, it was a movement that saved America and probably the world.
Because we would be in a state of absolute cataclysmic turmoil right now had he not tilted his head.
Joe Biden would have come out and said, this is the tragic consequences of hyper rhetoric in the political sphere.
We should all come together now.
what censorship, lockdowns, and so it's not just that it didn't work, it's not just that it
backfired, but I feel genuinely also in my heart of hearts there's been a seismic shift in the
cosmos in terms of the direction of America in the best possible way, but we still have to, you know,
riley gaines
battle a few demons. Well it's been cool from I guess my perspective, just recently graduating
college, having lots of friends who didn't know really where they stood politically who are now
reposting on their stories or posting on social media that photo, it's almost like closeted
conservatives are out there.
Outing themselves, which is great to see people who maybe would have even people who have considered themselves apolitical who who didn't really like Trump because he did the mean tweets who are now voicing and publicly showing their support.
hannah claire brimelow
Right.
I think it inspires a lot of patriotism among people who maybe are just aren't that engaged in anything.
You know, it's not that they are super political one way or another, but they just sort of let this all be background noise to the lives they're living.
And, you know, that's a way to choose to live.
But I think that there is such power in that moment.
And again, the fact that it wasn't, you know, to inflate his own ego, I really think Donald Trump stood up and gestured like that to show the crowd that he was OK.
He thought of the people who were looking to him with anxiety, with fear.
They don't know what's going on.
It's OK.
I'm up.
I can walk off this stage.
That's very meaningful in a time of crisis.
tim pool
I want to give a shout out to Politics Girl.
Do you guys know Politics Girl?
unidentified
Oh, yes.
tim pool
She's so liberal.
And she posted this.
She posted thread.
And then there's this guy named Dirk Schwenk Esquire.
Who's got about 90,000 followers.
And he tweeted, Dear U.S.
President, I know you are busy normalizing the completely radical, dangerous people at the RNC convention, but we the people have some G.D.
questions and y'all should investigate a thread.
I want to pause real quick and just say, I stand firmly 100% with Dirk Schwenk.
You know why?
He says in his thread, uh, where did the other bullets go?
Assuming there were bullets.
Well, he's a conspiracy theorist, we know that.
viva frei
One point, that's a 1.5 billion dollar accusation right there.
tim pool
Now hold on, hold on, hold on.
He says, CNN is reporting the kid brought a rangefinder into the perimeter and was ID'd on the roof well before the shooting.
How can this possibly be the case?
viva frei
Good question.
tim pool
I would like all of Dirk Schwenk's questions to be answered.
Some of them are probably rational and can be easily answered.
Like, where did the bullets go?
Well, innocent bystanders got hit.
But then he asks about the rangefinder.
I say we unify with the populist left.
They're accusing Donald Trump of staging this.
Don't know, don't care who did.
How about we investigate and figure out how could a guy with a rangefinder get in to that perimeter three hours in advance with full warning and they did nothing about it?
viva frei
They thought it was binoculars because he wanted a better view of the president.
Was Politics Girl criticizing that accusation, or was she siding with it?
tim pool
No, no, she's siding with it.
viva frei
Because I thought maybe she had a moment of lucidity, but she's still crazy.
tim pool
I'm saying this, I'm saying to all the leftists who are accusing Donald Trump of having staged this, I'm like, oh heavens no, we should investigate this and get to the bottom of how this happened.
Yes, there we go.
Let's have a competition.
The left and the right can have an argument over how this went down, and it's a race to who can uncover as much evidence as possible.
Then we'll know what happened.
hannah claire brimelow
Yes.
I mean, I'm happy if both sides want to dig as much as possible and as much information is brought to light for whatever cause, whatever side of this you're rooting for, just bring the information forward.
I think that's one of the things America needs really seriously right now.
I agree with you, Viva, that that moment changed the trajectory of American history, and I think there was a healing element to it.
I think there was a A comfort to the gesture that Trump had.
But I think one of our biggest challenges as a society is the fact that we are so low trust.
We do not believe our neighbors.
We don't know them.
We don't want to know them.
We don't believe our governments.
We don't believe our news outlets.
And there are good reasons for this.
I think all of these institutions have lost lost the people they're supposed to connect.
But it is not enough to just say, oh, that's something that happened in the past.
We have to have a society that becomes transparent and honest and cultivates trust.
And we can't have a unified culture without it.
tim pool
We do have this breaking information right here that I think you all need to see.
Actual cow?
luke rudkowski
Is that the DEI Secret Service agent who's a bodacious lady?
tim pool
So this is a video of a cow standing on a roof who walked up a sloped roof, and DC Drano said, Secret Service Director, the roof slope was unsafe.
And then he puts, an actual cow.
riley gaines
An actual cow.
tim pool
Yeah, that's a lie.
It's just not true.
Look, to the left it argues that Donald Trump staged this himself.
The reason why I don't buy that is that the story doesn't make sense.
If the conspiracy was of Trump to fake an assassination attempt, they'd have answers to all of these questions as to why there weren't police, how this guy got in.
But it actually appears as though whatever happened actually failed.
Whatever plan was in place failed.
If you want to argue there's no conspiracy and security failed, then security failed 100%.
And that's the official, I-refuse-to-be-conspiracy-theorist notion.
The left is arguing that Trump staged this.
They're saying he had a gel pack in his hat and he smacked it.
That's why you see he's put his hand up.
When his hand goes up, they're like, that's when he hits the gel pack.
And then he goes down.
Others have said the Secret Service pours the thing on his ear and then he stands up.
It's a trick.
And I'm like, yeah, if that was true, there wouldn't be weird questions and panic from the Secret Service as to why they didn't handle this properly.
They'd have reasoning behind that.
hannah claire brimelow
They'd have sent out their alert that they're going to hold a press conference like three days in advance.
They would have been ready with their story.
tim pool
If this all went according to plan, we would be saying, wow, I can't believe how that all went down.
robert barnes
Yeah, I mean, well, there wouldn't be other dead bodies there either.
I mean, those are the problems with... I mean, I think they're shocked by the net positive effect for Trump, and they're trying to spend it whatever way they can.
Some of the questions they're asking are good questions, but they're questions that go to the inadequacy and incapacity of the Secret Service to do its job.
viva frei
What's wild, though, that we're asking the same questions, they just are presupposing a different answer.
Why wasn't there security there?
Therefore it was staged.
No, why the hell wasn't there security there?
luke rudkowski
Period.
viva frei
Get the answer to that.
And if it was staged by Trump, why is Chito saying monumental failure on our behalf?
luke rudkowski
Yeah, the court of public opinion Matters here, and I think everyone in independent media, everyone in the general public automatically needs to assume blame for the federal government here until they prove otherwise.
And I think coming from that perspective is a lot better than trusting the federal government to federally investigate itself, because we're not going to get answers to these questions.
We're not going to find out what happened here unless 4chan gets involved, unless the autists get involved.
And start to really dig down and research into this guy's history, who he was friends with, who he was associating with, how he got his hands on explosive devices and transmitters.
I mean, that just doesn't happen to the average human being.
tim pool
Great transmitters.
I'm like, that's wild.
I want to pull this straight from the lips of TikTok.
Let's have the debate.
Libs of TikTok highlights this guy who she says this doctor is giving advice including medical advice for another person to attempt an assassination against US presidents.
I don't want to highlight all of this so I'm going to now move away from that post because I don't want it to I think it's egregious.
But one thing that I've noticed as of the past few days, and increasingly today, are classic liberals and centrists arguing that those of us who opposed cancel culture must be okay with those who advocate and call for violence.
And this is the most frustrating thing.
Ten years ago, we saw the editor, I think it was around ten years ago, or maybe it wasn't ten years ago, it was eight years ago, or seven.
But at some point, the editor-in-chief of the Daily Caller was suspended from Twitter, when it was Twitter at the time, for tweeting Learn to Code, but not at anyone.
He was explaining the story, and he wrote Learn to Code, and they suspended him.
We saw waves of suspensions from people saying, hashtag Learn to Code is a joke.
That was cancel culture.
That was the mass censorship regime.
We also saw people fired from their jobs for making donations to Donald Trump, to Kyle Rittenhouse.
That's cancel culture.
Sarah Silverman losing her job because 10 years prior she did blackface.
Cancel culture.
The idea that at any point when I, I can't speak for everybody else, was saying, hey, that's against free speech.
The idea that that would suggest I would ever tolerate people going on on X or Facebook and saying, here's what you need to do to succeed next time is an absurdity.
And I'm seeing a ton of people be like, now that we have the power of cancel culture, we must not do it.
Now, I'll say this.
I'm not saying I condone highlighting some Home Depot woman's stupid Facebook post to 10 friends or whatever.
I'm not going to defend someone who's saying something like, next time, don't miss.
Because that's one degree over the line where the person is saying they want it to happen again and they hope they succeed.
That is a call for violence.
Where is this coming from now that you've got these liberals and conservatives, these free speech absolutists who are like, we were always in favor of the left calling for violence?
robert barnes
Yeah, I mean, I think it's, I mean, imminent incitement to violence has never been constitutionally protected.
It's always been outside the First Amendment.
Certain kinds of stalking and harassment's also always been outside the First Amendment.
And you can be, as I am, a purist on the First Amendment and its defense and recognize these statements and attitudes and comments are outside of its protection.
tim pool
Some are within free speech, right?
So I say it's on the line when someone says, I am upset that this person failed, like they've posted those things.
robert barnes
But if you're giving advice like the doctor, here's how to do it, that strikes me as imminent.
tim pool
Yeah, that doctor said which drug you should take to stabilize, which rounds you should use at certain ranges.
And so you've got this generic push to be like, we shouldn't be canceling people.
And I'm like, yo, Libs just found a guy giving instruction on how to do it.
hannah claire brimelow
It's wild to me that someone sat down and wrote that out.
How can you live with yourself?
You're a doctor and you're just like, and then take this drug.
riley gaines
What about the Hippocratic Oath?
Forget that, first do no harm.
hannah claire brimelow
And no moment you were like, maybe I don't post this one.
robert barnes
Well, if you think somebody's Hitler, then doesn't everybody celebrate that image?
tim pool
And that's what's wrong with the leftist ideology of calling everybody Nazis.
But I guess my question for all of you guys is, I have said from the get-go, when I had that debate on Joe Rogan's podcast, I said, Antifa organizes violence, they post where people should be meeting up to engage in violence, why is that allowed?
I thought it was clear, going back to 2019 and before, that my position was, if you use Twitter as an organizing tool for violence and crime, we suspend you.
And you can make an argument about what the First Amendment allows and what it doesn't.
I'm saying outright, my view is, my line is, don't go on social media and say people should go commit crime and things of that nature.
Now that we're actually witnessing people do it, do you guys agree that it is free speech, that people should be allowed to say they want the murder, the death, and they want these things to have succeeded?
robert barnes
I think, to me, it's the constitutional test of imminent incitement to violence.
If it's outside of that scope, it's still a bit of an issue because the scope of First Amendment protection isn't as broad for Twitter as it is for some other settings.
But I think, at a minimum, a lot of this clearly crosses the line of imminent incitement to violence.
So that's where I would draw the line, but I think it varies by individual.
But I understand why the libs of TikTok is exposing them.
I don't have any problem with people suffering consequence for saying horrific things.
I think if you say horrific things, you deserve whatever consequences come about.
viva frei
It's not just that.
You put it on social media, you put it out there presumably so that the world sees it, and then don't complain when someone amplifies your goal of having the world see it and your employer sees it.
Now, when it comes to things that I argue would not be incompatible with your job, like I love J.K.
Rowling, you get fired as an accountant.
I don't see a nexus between those two statements.
One that compromises your ability to do your job.
A nurse saying, I won't treat X, Y, and Z ethnicities on social media.
Well, expect it to be put on blast and expect to suffer some consequences.
That's not console culture.
That is, I don't want to use the cliche, consequence culture.
That's just logical.
But the second you put something on social media, you relinquish your right to complain when someone bigger than you amplifies that.
riley gaines
And that's what lives of TikTok does so well.
I mean, she holds a mirror to it.
That's it.
That's all she has done since its conception is just hold a mirror to it.
Yet you have other people flipping out saying, oh, you're trying to get me fired from my job.
No, I'm amplifying the message that you put out for the world to see.
That is merely it.
That is it.
tim pool
The mistake that I think we see with, you know, and I'll express my disagreement specifically with Colin Wright, who is arguing against cancel culture and all that stuff right now, is I feel like someone like Colin, and I say this academically, does not have morals.
You have a lot of these liberals, these secular centrist types, who do not have a strong moral foundation.
And they argue, I have a principle, and my principle is free speech, people should be allowed to speak and say whatever they want, etc, etc.
And I think that fails the test of philosophical understanding and moral philosophy.
That is, what kind of society do you want to live in?
What are the functions and elements of that society?
What do they create?
And why do they create these things?
What do we ultimately want?
What I find with many of these centrist and classical liberal types is they just say, let people do whatever they want and mind their own business.
But what do you get?
You get two dudes in San Francisco engaging in oral activities on each other in front of children.
And I think that crosses a moral line for the majority of Americans who then stop and say, hey, wait a minute.
That liberal proposition did not work out the way we thought it would.
People who are allowed to free-range it over they want will build a culture where they engage in egregious actions which cause harm to the rest of us.
So my view is simply this.
When I say I believe in free speech, I'm not a free speech absolutist, and so therefore maybe I don't.
But my point is, Imminent threats of violence?
Completely agree.
However, when it comes to social media, I've always said I think it's fair if a social media platform says we draw the line on someone advocating for murder, death, and glorifying it.
Elon Musk agrees!
Elon Musk said you can't glorify death, murder, and violence and took down one of Destiny's Post's.
That's a fine standard, in my opinion, because we want to have reasonable boundaries on society for our moral framework.
That is to say, if someone goes on Twitter and is a communist and expresses the stupidest opinion in the world, they should be allowed to do that.
They're against me, and I will argue that.
But if they use that position on top of their ideology to try and strip me of my rights, then I think, well, now we must stop them from causing harm to our society and the world we want to live in.
I think too many of these centrists don't understand moral framework, so they just say, all that matters is the hard principle.
The question then becomes, what does that produce, and where does your country end up?
And, well, we can see it.
I watched a video from Tenet Media, Taylor Hanson, of two dudes engaging in adult activities on each other in public in front of children.
Is that the country that we all thought we were going to get when we decided that people should have expanded rights and freedoms?
Certainly not.
So then there should be some threshold where we're like, hey, we're going to draw the line on a moral framework where you say, you don't do that in public.
luke rudkowski
They used to reserve that for Epstein Island, but now they're trying to normalize it, which is kind of sickening and kind of debaucherous to our kind of society.
robert barnes
Yeah, I mean, I think there's basically, there's always been limits, and you, for example, at any public forum you can have basic limitations, certain obscenity can be prohibited, certain kinds of language, certain kinds of ideas can be prohibited, because you want the public forum to be one that everybody wants to participate in.
And nobody wants to participate in a Klan rally.
So you're entirely entitled to exclude the Klan from that public forum.
tim pool
But I feel like with X and his other larger platforms, the answer was always, if you have a monopoly on the platform, if it is a central public square, then the broader the platform, the broader tolerance you must have for political opinions and ideas.
But there's still a place where we draw the line.
The idea now that it's hypocritical to condemn those advocating for death and murder Because we were critical of people being banned for citing crime statistics.
It's ridiculous.
The cultural standard of the left during the cancel culture wave was you can't cite facts, you can't state opinions.
Megan Murphy got banned for saying men aren't women though.
riley gaines
Well, even still, this is what Joe Biden and the Democratic Party are doing.
Just recently, with Title IX, which is, people think of it as women's sports, it's broader than just women's sports.
Joe Biden illegally and administratively rewrote Title IX, took 37 words in its original implementation, rewrote, created a new proposal that is now almost half a million words, 1,577 pages from a brief, brief paragraph.
But in this, now your speech is compelled.
He says you are guilty and charged with sexual harassment if you participate in hate speech.
But who defines hate speech?
Who defines it?
And all Democrats, all 205 of them who voted, I mean just two weeks ago, voted in favor, actually in opposition of the CRA that would have prevented this.
Every single Democrat, mothers and fathers of their own children voted in opposition to this.
tim pool
The leftists argued, five or so years ago during the peak of cancel culture, that if an individual went on X and posted FBI crime stats, they should lose their job, and many of them did.
That's an absurd standard.
I mean, we need to utilize facts to better understand the world around us.
My argument is, don't advocate for the murder of a political figure because that's destabilizing to the broader society.
I feel like my framework for what we're allowed to do and say and what people should accept and tolerate is massively broad and encompasses all political ideologies, so long as you don't try to cross the line into violence.
And their standard is, how dare you tell me I can't say these things?
You're for cancel culture, you hypocrite.
robert barnes
Yeah, and I think they just don't understand there's a difference between the two.
riley gaines
I mean, there's a difference between... Clearly, if they don't understand the difference between being shot and COVID, how could they distinguish the two?
viva frei
The cancel culture was sort of predicated on a lack of nexus between what was said, when it was said, and the sanction being administered in real time.
And it typically involved going after stuff that was...
Like Tim mentioned on Monday, not wrong at the time, but now being retroactively weaponized.
It's called ex post facto, uh, you know, application of criminal law.
Like you can't retroactively make something illegal.
And that's what cancel culture was trying to do.
This is, I don't view it as cancel culture.
When you come out and you say on social media, something that is morally offensive, and then those who employ you say, well, I find this morally offensive.
I can't trust you or your judgment.
I don't want you working for me.
That's not cancel culture.
That is suffering the consequences of being a foul and detestable human being.
tim pool
Hold on, though.
What if someone goes on social media and says something about gay marriage?
Like, I think it's wrong, it's disgusting, blah, blah, blah.
And then someone finds that post and sends it to their job and they get fired.
Is that cancel culture?
viva frei
What type of job?
Are they teaching kids at a school?
unidentified
No, no, no.
tim pool
They work at Home Depot.
viva frei
I would think that that would be more approaching cancel culture.
tim pool
Agreed.
viva frei
Like, where there is no nexus between the statement and compromising your ability to do your job or to represent a company.
tim pool
And so this is the point that I'm trying to make.
What makes cancel culture cancel culture and makes it unreasonable is someone working at Home Depot saying something like, Joe Biden's a moron who supports Black Lives Matter and these people are just, you know, they're rioters and they're violent and blah blah blah.
And then someone contacting Home Depot and getting him fired for saying that.
It's like, well, that's like a general political opinion of disdain.
But what we're looking at right now is Libs of Tiktok saying, hey, here's a person saying they wish the assassins succeeded.
That is, like, tenfold across the, like, so much worse.
viva frei
It happened in Canada.
That would be like an airline pilot floating the paratrooping, parasailing terrorist from October 7 and saying, well, hey, I'm just expressing a political belief.
I'm sorry, you fly planes, and that's not a belief that is compatible with your job.
It's not cancel culture.
It's a reasonable consequence.
tim pool
I just think the important thing that people need to understand, you've got a lot of these centrists that try to maintain this amoral position, and I'm not saying this as a point of derision, I'm saying quite literally without morals.
The example I always give is the principle among the centrist view.
Government should have no say in our medical decisions.
What do you get with leftists?
The liberals say that means women can get abortions if they want.
But you should be forced to get a vaccine if I decide you should be forced to.
In this instance, you don't get a say.
Then you have the inversion with conservatives.
People on the right, they say, government should not be intervening in a person's private medical decisions.
You cannot force them to get medicated.
However, if a parent tries to get gender-affirming care for their child, the state should intervene and stop that from happening.
Everybody has their moral line where they think a community should or should not intervene against an action that they view to be immoral.
The centrists are like, either is fine, I guess, because we have principles, and that principle is government should never intervene.
Well, that's not reality.
Because if most of these kids, like if you look at Elon Musk's position on gender affirmation, he would align more with conservatives.
If a parent tried to get their kid sterilized, he would probably lean with conservatives, saying the state should stop that from happening, because the science we've already seen shows that's not helpful.
luke rudkowski
Riley, where do you think this is going?
Because you've been fighting this on the front lines more than, I think, anyone else.
riley gaines
Well, it's interesting, of course, hearing a say inciting violence.
I genuinely believe the other side sees something as simple or as factual, as assertive, the assertion, the biological reality that men cannot become women.
They really do believe that is violence.
And so again, it goes back to, OK, how do we define inciting violence?
So it's interesting to to kind of unpack all of this.
Of course, we can all see calling for an assassination or teaching someone how to better achieve murdering someone.
Of course, that that that objectively is violence.
But I think the other side, they have a different definition of violence.
Just as if they have a different definition of compassion, and kindness, and tolerance, and inclusivity.
We just have different definitions.
I think we all want the same thing, really.
On most issues, we want the same thing.
tim pool
I disagree.
riley gaines
You think so?
tim pool
I thought that when I was in my late teens, and then as I got older, I started to realize that these people were lying about what they really wanted to gain power.
And I learned this when I met you.
riley gaines
Maybe in terms of elected representation.
tim pool
No, no, no.
unidentified
No, no, no.
viva frei
I want to stress this to a great degree.
tim pool
I thought this growing up, that everybody wanted the same things and to get there in different ways, and then I met people at Occupy Wall Street.
And I learned that demons do exist, and some people.
A New York Times reporter told me she's a nihilist who can't figure out any reason to existence, so she wants to make sure everyone's suffering and the world burns.
riley gaines
But do you think that's most people who embrace that same ideology?
Yes.
I don't think that's most people.
I really don't.
tim pool
Out of all of the people that I've met in that cohort, it is It's a dark it there there is evil.
riley gaines
Well, I mean the whole I believe the whole thing is evil.
There's no doubt about that.
But again, I do think they want they believe they're being virtuous.
They do.
I think in most cases and in regard to the general public.
I don't think that if people like In Congress, serving who have authoritative positions.
I don't think that.
I do believe they're jaded, they're evil, they have ulterior motives that they are fighting for.
But I think, again, your everyday person, take yourself outside of Twitter, what have you, I think they believe they are being virtuous.
tim pool
These are the people who are tangentially involved.
So the default liberal who wakes up in the morning and makes pancakes and then turns on MSNBC and goes, I think we should support the rights of trans people.
I agree.
unidentified
And I think that's who I'm speaking to, or about.
tim pool
And the activists, no, the activists are evil.
riley gaines
Well, there's no doubt about that.
tim pool
I certainly agree.
And it's not absolute.
I'm saying, like, you know, when I spent time at Occupy Wall Street, the people who are good got pushed out and left, and the people who are evil burned everything to the ground and advocated for violence and destruction for the sake of violence and destruction.
riley gaines
Well, that's what we see happening to our country now.
tim pool
And when you look at Antifa, and you look at the riots they've engaged in, there is no goal.
There's none.
You go to these meetings, and they say it's a diversity of tactics.
You ask them what that means, and they're like, it means we're all doing different things.
And I said, Then what's the plan?
Like, what's the end game here?
And they're like, different people are gonna smash different things?
And I'm just like, okay, so you're literally just running around destroying and ruining people's lives.
I asked them, at Occupy Wall Street, when they smash at a bank window, I asked a guy, I was like, why'd you smash the window?
And he was like, because those banks are evil.
And I was like, what does that mean?
And they're like, well, banks rip people off.
And then I said, do you think the minimum wage employees who now are out of work and can't come into work understand why you threw a brick through their window?
And they were like, yes.
And I was like, no, you don't.
They don't know that.
And they're like, well, that guy might not.
I'm like, then why did you do it?
They have no answer.
They just felt like smashing a window.
luke rudkowski
That's how I met you.
That's how we became friends, because I was arguing with these people, too.
And I was like, wait, this guy over here with the beanie makes a lot of sense here.
I like this guy.
And that's how we literally became friends, fighting the communists and the far radicals and the far leftists at Occupy Wall Street.
tim pool
Whose only plan was, today we're going to go out and someone's going to go break something.
And we're like, hi, what does breaking a thing accomplish?
And they're like, what do you mean?
luke rudkowski
We're gonna let air out of the police car tires.
That's gonna help everybody.
viva frei
Tim, but you mentioned evil, and then you mentioned no strategy or no plan to the destruction, but going back to it is a fight for power, ideological power, ideological control over other people, and though there's no strategy to the destruction, there is power in the ability to destroy something that belongs to somebody else.
And so, I do believe some of them are evil, but it is a question, a quest for power, and control over the other.
tim pool
This isn't indicative of anything outside of my experience.
It's my experience with specific activists in New York.
I look at it very much like the Sith.
It is one evil person trying to manipulate a system where everyone has a competing interest, but whoever is better at manipulating gains more power.
So as it was explained to me by the people who are organizing Occupy Wall Street, they said, we want to flip the pyramid over.
And to the average untrained person, what do they imagine?
You've got the pyramid with the elites and the Illuminati on top and the workers on the bottom, and when you flip it over, now the workers are on top.
Well, I'm not stupid.
So I asked them, well, when you flip over a pyramid, it just crumbles into a rubble pile with some people from the working class on top and the rest fall to the bottom.
And they went, exactly.
We're hoping that'll be us.
And I was like, so you're not talking about helping the working class, you're talking about inverting the system to break it apart so that you can stand atop the rubble.
And they were like, yeah.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
I was like, well, okay.
robert barnes
Some pigs are more equal than others.
tim pool
That's right.
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Random question.
If you were selected to be on a four-person political debate team, which three people would you choose to be your teammates?
viva frei
From this panel or of the world?
tim pool
Of the world.
viva frei
Riley, you go first.
unidentified
Oh, I don't know.
riley gaines
Let's see.
People on my team, on any topic, we're just debating politics.
Let's see.
I think people, of recent at least, who would be pretty exceptional at this.
I think Vivek does a fantastic job.
I want him to be the press secretary, desperately.
I think that would be a... It's so beneath him, though.
Yes, and I think that kind of locks him into... I feel like most press secretaries, you go into then media afterwards, and I don't think that's the future for him, but I do think it would be good for the country to see him there.
He's taking notes over here.
He has time to think.
hannah claire brimelow
He's always writing down what he's about to say.
luke rudkowski
Alex Jones, Tucker Carlson, Russell Brand, and Tim.
tim pool
I completely disagree with that assessment.
luke rudkowski
It's a crap movie.
tim pool
I would say Vivek Ramaswamy, perfect choice.
He's number one.
Tucker Carlson, absolutely.
I don't know about Alex Jones.
luke rudkowski
He's gonna do a crap show, which is gonna be fun.
tim pool
I would say Viva.
Viva Frye, right there.
And it's a four-person debate team.
That's four.
Wait, wait.
No, that was three, wasn't it?
robert barnes
Including yourself.
tim pool
And myself, right.
robert barnes
Yeah, I would do Donald Trump, Tucker Carlson, and Robert Kennedy.
viva frei
I've had a lot of time to think about this now.
Sorry, I have to just pick one person.
I would obviously take Barnes, and I would take, um, the, uh, oh geez, Jordan Peece would be good.
Jordan Peece would be great.
And even though we've had our tiffs, Constantine, I apologize.
I don't apologize, deal with it, but Constantine Kissin, even though I disagree with his judgments sometimes and his conclusions, he's eloquent, and he can think very quickly on his feet.
Strategically, he's good.
tim pool
This is interesting, Vivek?
He's charismatic and he's empathetic even when he disagrees with the person that he's discussing.
And so Vivek is the Brazilian jujitsu of debating, but Jordan Peterson is more like the judo.
So the reason why I would say Jordan Peterson is good, it's not in his knowledge or his wit, it's in his... he knows how to ask the question.
riley gaines
Agreed.
tim pool
Right away when someone presents a logic with some hole in it, Jordan can easily go, well what about this then?
And they go, ah!
And that's all he has to say.
He knows what to target in their argument.
robert barnes
If it concerned law, I would have Alan Dershowitz.
viva frei
He's amazing.
How old is Alan Dershowitz, Robert?
He's in his 70s, guys.
luke rudkowski
He defended Epstein pretty well.
robert barnes
I mean, what was fascinating about how old that went down was he got blamed for things that ultimately all those people were attracted to those allocations.
And I've always been curious about the timing of all of it.
That it struck me that they were trying to remove him from the scene at a time he'd become a dissonant voice from the establishment.
hannah claire brimelow
I would pick Ann Coulter, the defense attorney who defended Casey Anthony and got her off guilt-free.
And I think also you have to pick either Tucker or Donald Trump, right?
I don't want a fully woman team, that's crazy.
tim pool
Alright, here we go, here we go.
Blackout4465 says, let's toss some levity into this heavy week.
Question for Tim, who would you say is the most influential skater of all time?
I'm sorry sir, that's not a good question.
It's Rodney Mullen.
unidentified
I was gonna say Tony Hawk.
tim pool
That's the tourist answer.
Anybody who knows anything knows that Rodney Mullen basically invented skateboarding.
Skateboarding as we know it.
So, for instance, how do you jump on a skateboard?
It's called an ollie.
And that's named for Alan Ollie Gelfand.
And what he would do is, in pools, he would sort of slash the tail, scooping it in the air and turning, and that's it.
That's going up a wall, utilizing gravity to your advantage to spin, and the board would stay stuck to your feet.
They thought he was using glue and stuff.
Rodney Mullin looked at that and said, I bet if you do the same thing on the ground and hit it, the pressure of the board, the inertia, will keep it stuck to your foot as you jump in the air, it will rise up.
And he invented the flat ground ollie.
The ability for a skateboarder to jump with their board, Rodney Mullin, the kickflip, where the board flips underneath, Rodney Mullin, heelflip, Rodney Mullin, 360 flip, Rodney Mullin.
When you watch any skateboarding, and you see an individual do any trick in any contest, it is a derivative of Rodney Mullen's tricks that he invented.
And that being said, I can give some other shoutouts to Mark Gonzalez and Natas Kapas, who basically popularized the modern street skateboarding, hitting handrails and doing things like that.
That's very influential.
Tony Hawk certainly is influential in his own right.
He's actually named several tricks, but he's a vert skater, and so his influence was limited to sort of the end of the 90s, where, while he did have a big influence in the early days, he did land the 900 before anybody else, most skateboarders, 90 plus percent, are doing tricks, even on vert, invented by Rodney Mullen.
So Rodney Mullen invents the kickflip, he starts flipping his board, Tony Hawk then starts adapting flips on vert, and so it actually goes from the street back to the vert ramp.
But there's certainly many more for very different reasons why they're influential, but there's no question it's Rodney Mullen.
Anyway, let's read Super Chats that aren't so esoteric.
Roger Man says, don't forget to put your MyPillow in the dryer before you use it the first time.
It's a big mistake people make.
You gotta put it in the pillow and it fluffs up.
And then they're amazing.
But just like right out of the bag, he's like, you gotta put it in the dryer, man.
Let's go.
What is that?
KatothSwiss says, WTF?
I thought they just needed his corporeal form.
Not anymore, they don't.
hannah claire brimelow
That's what I'm saying, like, they just said they need his corporeal form, so if he has a pulse, he could be on the ballot.
I love that we all know they're talking about Biden.
viva frei
Dershowitz is 85, by the way.
Wow.
That's sharp as a tack.
Not Biden 81.
tim pool
Let's go!
Here we got Pete Nutbutter.
He says, local tabletop game designer, I'd love to aid in the development of a card game you mentioned yesterday or any game made by you and your team to help take back gaming culture from its toxic woke capture.
We are working on a card game called Debate Me.
And the game is played with a single deck, constructed by any individual, and you choose which deck to play with.
All players use the same deck.
There's 52 cards in each deck, and everyone is dealt two cards.
Each card represents a character with debate stature.
And they're varying power levels.
So, of course, Donald Trump is the most powerful right-wing card.
Barack Obama is the most powerful establishment card.
And then you have, like, bankrupt Alex Jones as, like, the weakest right-wing card.
The goal is to put together a debate team using the two cards in your hand and five cards on the board to make the best five-card debate team.
Now, you may be saying, this sounds an awful lot like Texas Hold'em.
It's because you are correct.
However, We're going to add customizable cards with different effects on the state of the game, which make it somewhat different.
So it will be a very similar information game.
And the way it's played is, you look down at the two characters who are on your debate team, and you invite your followers to the debate.
Whoever constructs the best debate team, takes all the followers into their account.
And then whoever amasses all the followers wins the game.
You can play it however you want.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
It's going to be fun.
It's going to be fun when you open a booster pack and get a foil golden god emperor trump card.
And so it's basically, the idea is to use the format of Texas Hold'em because it's super easy for people to understand poker.
The average person can just be told how to play it and they play right away.
Not well, but they can play right away.
And then we add fun and silliness and levity to it with special abilities and Karine Jean-Pierre, one of the cards we designed.
So for those that don't understand poker cards, She is a jack in the establishment, but she can only be played as though she were a six.
So the point being that she's in a position she is certainly not qualified for.
Anyway, let's read some more Super Chats.
Joe Spinella says Biden's using this COVID as smoke to drop out because the bullet missed while DHS Secretary and Director of USSS are getting subpoenaed and more and more evidence keep coming forward from Saturday.
That's a little a little a little far for me.
I think Biden wants to leave and COVID is an excuse.
It's really that simple.
I don't know about anything else.
Son Wu Kong says, I love Barnes, but he's being too conspiratorial.
Too many eyewitnesses seeing the shooter.
Also, the azimuth works out for him.
Hanlona Razor, oh Hanlon's Razor, sorry.
Hanlon's Razor applies as plenty of examples that day.
God saved Trump.
Baruch Hashem?
unidentified
Baruch Hashem is the Hebrew way of saying praise God.
tim pool
Well, all right.
I agree with Viva.
It's fractal wrongness.
I mean, the Secret Service doesn't let someone, doesn't let their protectee, they don't let the president go out onto stage when they have an active threat they know about.
hannah claire brimelow
Are you being too conspiratorial?
viva frei
Barnes, you only get too conspiratorial if there's a second shooter.
I mean, we don't even need that to have the conspiracy in this case.
robert barnes
Well, if you wanted a patsy, you'd want to make sure people saw the patsy in order to blame the patsy.
So the fact that people saw him isn't evidence that he was not a patsy.
viva frei
Well, but the fact that he might have been a patsy doesn't mean that he didn't fire the shot, it just meant that he takes the fault.
luke rudkowski
I'm with Barnes on this one.
tim pool
Alright, Bender the Offender says, might be a stupid question, but could we possibly be in a situation where Trump is the only nominee for president with no opposition?
Yes.
Something that people need to consider is that Biden ends up dropping out for some reason, Kamala says, I don't know, and you end up with basically an open Democrat field and confusion in the ranks.
hannah claire brimelow
Do you think that means RFK is waiting to see what Biden does before he makes a decision about his campaign?
viva frei
RFK, they're aligned now in some sense with the Trump campaign.
I think that leaked call is an indication of it.
hannah claire brimelow
I think there is alignment there.
I think there is common ground.
But if you're RFK and you're like, well, maybe I'll end up with you.
Does he need to endorse Trump now?
Can he wait until we know more about Biden's condition?
I'm just throwing it out there as an alternative.
robert barnes
Well, I think if you're the Trump camp, you actually probably want Kennedy to still be in the race because if he's out of the race, then that may lead to more people voting for Biden that otherwise would vote for Kennedy.
tim pool
Cody McPherson says, I couldn't find the exact strike price, but those options, just by looking at puts for the 30th of August, those puts are down at least 40% from Friday, so they lost a ton of money.
Someone else mentioned that they were actually made on June 30th, so a while ago, and the filing only was published on that date, so people are kind of overreacting as to what it means.
Someone was just betting against Donald Trump.
And it could be much... Guys, it can be really obvious.
Here's a question, and verify this.
Did we know on June 30th that Trump's sentencing was being postponed?
I don't think so, right?
robert barnes
No, because it was the first week of July that the decision came down.
tim pool
So the put options, the shorts, were likely due to someone saying, hey, when Trump goes to prison, he won't be able to post on Truth.
The value is going to tank.
viva frei
Yeah, but it would be the volume of that short.
It seems very, very, very heavy to bet on that in any event.
And it would be a stupid bet because he really, really wasn't likely going to be going to jail anyhow.
luke rudkowski
Well, Tim, when we were talking to Trump, he brought up the larger actions against Truth Social and how people were attacking the stock specifically.
So it does make sense that this was happening before this attempted assassination.
tim pool
Jared Hilliard says, looking more and more like local officers or state troopers were the ones who stopped the shooter, not the Secret Service.
I'm hearing some of that, but most importantly, I think, pointing out that the local police said the Secret Service lied.
Secret Service said, oh, local police were guarding that building.
And the cops were like, what?
No, we weren't.
We were doing traffic control.
That's crazy.
robert barnes
And there would never be protocol for local police to be guarding that building.
hannah claire brimelow
It doesn't make any sense.
It's so strange to me how many times we've had something happen and one agency or one group of law enforcement is supposed to be in charge and someone else has stepped in.
It makes me think of Uvalde when it's all the border patrol people who lived in the area who were like, we're not waiting, we're going into the school.
viva frei
Well, it was actually on Monday night where someone said, you know, incompetence and gave the Uvalde example.
And unfortunately, with the Uvalde example, there's a not so implausible conspiracy that the more people that die, the stronger becomes the argument for gun control.
And so you have a bunch of politicized officers or under the control of a politicized leader saying, stand back, let this be a tragedy that we will milk and exploit like we did with other cases.
So there's a sinister conspiracy theory for Uvalde that, you know, it might be more reasonable than Just incompetence or cowardice.
tim pool
Ian Crossland says, all these things are important, but I got a Jeweled Lotus and the One Ring.
Tim is going to get rocked by my Urza deck.
That's just not true, Ian.
I'm sorry.
Ian and I were playing some commander just about a week ago, and I was trying to be nice, and so, this is Magic the Gathering, by the way, and I was playing a Thassa Deep Dwelling deck, which is not the strongest in the world, and he was playing Urza, which is just ridiculous power level, and he was just, he's being a dick about it.
And I was like, okay, dude, I was trying to play a friendly game.
So I took out my Nadu, a competitive EDH deck, and I won on turn three, and he was like, wow.
And so, Ian, that doesn't matter what you do with the One Ring or Jeweled Lotus.
You will not beat my strongest deck.
You can do whatever you want, you will never win.
I'll see you next week.
viva frei
This is what it feels like to listen to a foreign language.
I sort of understand the words.
I have no idea what you just said.
hannah claire brimelow
I learn so much when I'm here, but I cannot do anything with this information.
tim pool
I actually speak several languages, too.
I can speak skateboarding.
I could, yeah.
riley gaines
Well, you heard that already.
tim pool
Did you?
riley gaines
Did you notice how after you said your piece, it was silent because everyone's like...
unidentified
Okay.
hannah claire brimelow
None of us can name another skater.
None of us can name any tricks.
tim pool
Ah.
hannah claire brimelow
You dominate that...
If this were a trivia night, that would be your category for sure.
riley gaines
We'd want you on our debate team.
tim pool
It's actually skateboard language is a mathematical system.
There's two dialects in skateboarding, and one is more like a grunting of a caveman and trying to describe things, and one is a mathematical system.
So you could say something like blizzard flip.
And any core skateboarder knows what a blizzard flip is.
If someone doesn't understand core skateboarding to its utmost degree, you'd have to break it down as a backside 360 with a kickflip.
You have to say with a, because if you say 360 kickflip, you're talking about a board flip only.
And now you're getting to the math of it.
So math skateboarding, you could say something like, switch 360 kickflip revert.
You're actually, word plus word plus word is explaining what it is.
Or you can say something like El Nino.
El Niño is just the name of a trick, but it's basically shorthand memification of the math.
So, in describing all skateboarding, you're speaking in a mathematical language, which is actually quite interesting.
hannah claire brimelow
Is swimming like that, like with diving or anything?
riley gaines
Diving, yeah.
You have different degrees of, which I was not a diver, but you'll have like a 306B, and each number means a different thing, the letters mean a different thing, one is pike, one is, I mean, yeah.
I don't even really know the ins and out of it all, but yeah, kind of to a degree.
viva frei
Riley, actually, before I forget, the cosmic fluke of your story to have matched Leah Thomas's... I was thinking of a penis rudder joke in all of this, but I'll leave it out.
tim pool
We'll save it for the members only, because there's children watching.
viva frei
The cosmic coincidence to have achieved the exact number.
How often has that ever happened?
riley gaines
We'll think about it.
We raced for about a minute and forty seconds, and we went the exact same time down to the hundredth.
viva frei
The one hundredth of a second.
riley gaines
Wow.
viva frei
Cosmic.
tim pool
And then they told you to get off the podium and go stand somewhere else?
unidentified
Yep.
They said, damn you woman, we've got a bigger, better woman right here.
tim pool
That's so nuts, because that means second and third place were on the podium, even though you beat them.
riley gaines
Well, so really, what went down?
The first day, won a national title.
So, again, beat every girl in the country.
I mean, Olympians, people who you will see competing in the Olympics, what, this month, a few weeks.
American record holders.
I mean, the most impressive swimmers, female swimmers, this world has ever seen, and he beat them all by body lengths.
The second day of that national championship was the day that we raced.
It was the 200 free.
I didn't post my best time.
We actually ended up tying for fifth place in the country, which is still a pretty incredible feat.
You're top five in the country, but it was visible Even if you know nothing about swimming, it was visible to anyone with eyeballs that he was not trying.
I mean, he just wasn't.
His legs weren't kicking.
He wasn't doing his dolphin kicks off the wall.
I mean, he wasn't trying.
But nonetheless, we tied.
So yeah, we were both standing there.
They award top eight All-American honors, and so you have your top eight swimmers there.
And so it's first, second, third, fourth.
Me and this 6'4 Goliath of a man towering over me, standing on the 5th place spot.
Me holding a trophy.
They told me I could pose with one, but I had to give it back.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Let's read this.
We got Barely a Millennial saying, I was watching the rally after getting home from the fair.
I told the GOP lady there that my husband didn't want me to have a yard sign because he thought it would make us a target.
I understand his perspective now.
Heart-stopping.
unidentified
Yeah.
viva frei
Tim, Robert, who told us this today?
It was at some point today where they said there's the shift in the cosmos where once upon a time people were afraid to say they support Trump and now it's almost like they're afraid to say they support Biden and proud to say they support Trump.
tim pool
Yeah.
viva frei
Was that Chris who told them?
unidentified
Okay, good.
viva frei
That one I'm not mixing up.
But yeah, no, there's a shift in the cosmos.
People are now ashamed to say they support Biden because it's such a laughably stupid position to take and almost proud to say, I support the badass who stood up with his fist in the air, blood dripping from his ear after someone tried to kill him.
riley gaines
And it's been a long time, I feel like, on our side, that we felt something like that.
At least, I mean, I think, that we have felt unity like this.
It's sad that it takes, I mean, almost an assassination to reach that level of unity amongst ourselves and to watch the other side now crumble.
It's tragic, really, that that's what it requires.
But, I mean, Really, it was fantastic for his campaign.
And I think it's good overall for the party and the way that it panned out.
hannah claire brimelow
Right.
And if our country has to go through tragic times, I mean, everybody has to face them.
But if we have to go through something awful like that, like potentially, you know, an assassination attempt, especially so terrifying, the loss of Corey and what his family went through.
I mean, hypothetically, we want this to bring us closer together, right?
We ultimately want the outcome to be something that positive.
And if it means that we're more united, you know, that's making the best of a terrible situation.
tim pool
Rainforest says, per Kyle Becker on Axe, company that shorted DJT is connected to Blackrock, which starred the shooter in one of its past ads.
Yeah, but to be fair, Blackrock has a portion of, like, everything.
So it's Vanguard, State Street, Blackrock.
They hold basically every company.
viva frei
There was some discussion as to whether or not the kid was actually the kid in the Blackrock ad.
Has that been confirmed in the Blackrock ad?
Yeah, I don't even know if that's true.
These types of things you get, you have to be very careful before retweeting.
tim pool
That's true.
unidentified
Okay, let's, what do we got here?
tim pool
Burnout Bubba says, when Secret Service were caught on the mic saying, what, what do we do?
Could that be the plan was that Trump was still alive.
They expected Trump to be dead.
I believe she said, what are we doing?
No, I think.
Yeah, it's a stretch.
I think it was Lauren Boebert told us that she wasn't on the actual detail and she rushed over to help them.
So she didn't know what their plans were, their contingencies were.
I don't see anything much there.
unidentified
Yep.
All right.
tim pool
Kydeus says, this is the second or third event that happened with their Secret Service this year.
Remember, a Secret Service officer got robbed in CA.
Investigation needed.
hannah claire brimelow
There's been a couple times in DC where Secret Service has been, you had to like have an interaction with someone who was trying to steal their car that they were sitting in.
There's one outside of Naomi Biden's home and a couple others, which is, it's interesting.
tim pool
Rich N. says, a Secret Service agent in 2016 posted she would not protect Donald Trump if a situation arose.
The agent was fired in 2016 for a social media post that did not align with Secret Service values.
Swamp is deep.
Interesting.
Delta Tango says, can we hire that cow for the Secret Service?
I believe the cow is available.
And yes, that cow actually would secure the roof.
luke rudkowski
Probably weighs less than the guy higher.
tim pool
No, like, a stranger, a cow on a roof, if a stranger tried going on the roof around that cow, that cow would freak out, and that would be, like, you're not going to be able to sit down and set anything up.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, and it would make a lot of noise if someone was suddenly trying to come on the roof, like, it's not going to let it just subtly happen.
Did you see that there's some reporting that Mayorkas is telling Cheadle, the director of the Secret Service, that she can't go before Congress, even though they're trying to get her to answer questions?
unidentified
Wow.
riley gaines
I can't understand why, like, unless you are a part of it.
Unless you're trying to hide something.
Unless you are a part of it, why?
There is no...
viva frei
Riley, it's even worse than that.
If anybody accuses Mayorkas of anything, he's gonna go and cry anti-Semitism again.
No, you should know with my history of the Holocaust, why would I would never partake in assassinating a president?
No, transparency is the only cure.
Luke, he's right when he talks about Alex Jones's theory.
When it comes to the government, it's not trust but verify.
It's distrust and make them prove.
And that's where we're at right now.
tim pool
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Riley, do you want to shout anything out?
riley gaines
Yes, you can follow me on X at Riley underscore Gaines underscore.
I've got a podcast, it is the Gaines for Girls podcast with OutKick.
And a new book, Swimming Against the Current.
I just found out it was a national bestseller.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
riley gaines
Congratulations.
robert barnes
That's fantastic.
riley gaines
Thank you, thank you.
unidentified
Congrats.
robert barnes
Thanks.
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