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A massive wave of right-wing populist victories in the EU is causing chaos, Politico says.
AFD in Germany came in second place, and in France, the victory of Marine Le Pen's populist party was so pronounced that Macron has dissolved French Parliament.
Many people suggest that the victories we're seeing in Europe are a sign of things to come in the United States.
Donald Trump will win in a landslide victory, they say.
You know, don't count your eggs before they hatch.
We'll see how things go, but this is tremendous news for Europe.
The people of Europe are furious over the failed policies that we've seen so far, these globalist policies, international policies, and immigration policies.
So of course, people are voting, and they're winning.
Now we're gonna see what happens.
There are also riots happening in France, and some people are trying to act like that's related, but I gotta be honest, French people just riot.
It's kind of the thing they do, and they're riding over a motorway, so, you know, it is what it is, but we'll talk about that.
Then we got Joe Biden's approval rating hitting a new low, which is shocking.
And Donald Trump's polling seems to be stable, although the media keeps trying to claim that
his polling is getting worse.
Relatively stable.
You know, Biden's got some, Trump's got some.
Trump has one poll putting him up 6.
He's doing well with independents.
But of course, the media's reporting.
And we got this breaking audio showing Nancy Pelosi saying she's responsible for the security issues of January 6.
And then, John Fetterman says that almost dying has cured him of progressivism.
I'm not kidding.
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Cliff Maloney.
cliff maloney
I appreciate you guys having me, as always.
tim pool
Who are you?
What do you do?
cliff maloney
Sure.
My name's Cliff Maloney.
I mainly focus on door-knocking for America First and libertarian-type Republicans, and this cycle I've been tapped to run the ballot-chasing effort in Pennsylvania, something we call the PA Chase.
I'm going to match the Democrats at their own tactics, hire 120 folks, and try to run up the score in mail-in ballots.
I'm having a lot of fun doing it.
tim pool
Sounds good.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Should be fun.
Phil is here.
He's alive.
phil labonte
I lived.
How you doing?
My name is Phil Labonte.
I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains.
I'm also an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.
How you doing there, Hannah-Claire?
hannah claire brimelow
I'm good.
Phil's here, so I won't be filling in for him on tour this summer.
I know everyone is sad about it.
I'm an amazing metal singer.
No, I'm just kidding.
I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlow.
I'm a writer for SCNR.com.
That's Skinner News.
Follow all their work at 10CastNews.
Hi, Serge!
unidentified
Hello y'all.
Let's get started, Tim.
tim pool
Everybody's talking fast today.
unidentified
Oh boy.
hannah claire brimelow
A competition.
tim pool
Here we go.
This story from The Guardian.
EU elections.
Macron to dissolve French parliament after crushing loss to far-right.
What I love about this is that basically the far-right are people who are like, we should have checks on immigration.
And that's basically it.
All of these lefties are coming out saying the issue of immigration is helping the far right win.
And it's like, what is the far right promoting?
No war, working class jobs, and controlled migration.
I'm like, that's not far right.
That's like centrist.
hannah claire brimelow
The far right is them saying, hey, we shouldn't encourage people to take treacherous journeys and risk their lives to come to a country where we don't have the tax base to support them.
They're like, crazy.
Get out of here.
cliff maloney
All those issues are blue collar issues.
Right.
But that's the problem when they designate that far right as this, you know, that's the evil.
Well, when all those things line up with working class folks, it's just they're losing the battle on defining the far right.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I think so.
I think that's what's most interesting about sort of the rise of an interest in protecting individual nations in Europe, because Europe is, to scale, so much smaller than America.
I mean, we are used to all the states having to have the conversation about immigration, but could you imagine if every state set their own immigration policy?
That's effectively what Europe has to deal with, and especially with the EU.
If the EU rules them in a way that says, like, well, we set the immigration policy and your countries have to deal with it, of course you're going to get people who are saying, well, then you're sort of abusing us and we don't want to put up with this anymore.
It seems inevitable to me, but I guess I'm not a progressive from Europe.
phil labonte
The idea that any of this is quote-unquote far-right is ridiculous.
The only reason it's called far-right is because the phrase far-right has been programmed into people or conditioned into people to, for them to think, people have been conditioned to think the term far-right means just evil.
Bad.
cliff maloney
Right?
phil labonte
There's no context.
It doesn't matter what the policy is, it's far-right.
tim pool
It means bad thing.
phil labonte
Argument over.
And this goes to show you, again, this is something that we reiterate on the show all the time, the left doesn't have an argument, the left has emotions.
The left doesn't make arguments, they don't try to make arguments.
tim pool
It's fire.
phil labonte
Yeah.
It's, my hair's on fire, I'm upset, you know, they're screaming fire in a building or there's this big thing to be afraid of.
hannah claire brimelow
But in this case, they set the fire and now they're like, you guys want to put out this fire?
That's crazy.
It's keeping us all warm.
Like, what are you talking about?
tim pool
Well, fire does not want to be put out.
It resists.
It expands.
I mean, it's a mindless expansion of chaos just spreading and destroying.
Let's get a little context here.
So this is France's President Emmanuel Macron has been accused of gambling with French democracy.
Oh, heavens.
After announcing that he will dissolve parliament and call snap legislative elections in the wake of his allies crushing defeat to Marine Le Pen's far-right national rally in Sunday's European Parliament into elections.
On a night that saw far-right parties make significant but far from conclusive gains
in Europe, the RN won about 32% of French votes, more than double the 15 or so scored
by Macron's allies, according to projections, with the Socialists just behind at about 14%.
The first round of elections for the National Assembly will take place on the 30th of June,
and the second on the 7th of July.
Macron announced an address to the nation in a huge gamble on his political future three years before the end of his second term as president.
Now, some people are actually saying it's the honorable move to make.
That by doing this, it's actually allowing Marine Le Pen to come in and win political power.
I don't see it as a gamble.
If they have an election now, Marine Le Pen wins.
That's kind of the idea.
So I ain't mad at Macron.
I'm not an expert on French politics.
I also want to stress, too, a lot of people don't seem to understand.
So there was an election in the European Parliament, which is basically like Congress.
And it's not really the same because Europe, these are very strongly...
These countries have their own cultural identities.
In the United States, we have states.
There's state legislatures and representatives, and then there's the federal level.
EU is effectively their version of the federal level Congress, and so they win in France.
Macron then says, okay, we're going to have an election here in this country for our single French parliament, which we are expecting now the far right.
To win.
Which is interesting because Marine Le Pen, I'm pretty sure she's anti-EU, what she wants out of the EU, she wants, what do they call it, Frexit?
French exit?
I don't think they'll get it, but it's starting to look like the, I don't know, the belt is buckling under the girth of the gluttonous global elite.
And that's it.
phil labonte
There you go.
Look, there was a time when countries were trying to be more independent, and that all ended, I think, after World War II, right?
And now it's like, ever since it's like the UN, and now there's the EU, it's like we're trying to make all these different countries across the world enter into these, I don't want to call them PACs, but these organizations that are super national, right?
And essentially, it's my opinion that, like Tim said, it's just You know, the global elite or the power brokers trying to consolidate as much power as they can.
They want to... Most of these organizations, the UN, you know, the EU and stuff, they would like to have the ability to veto any of the individual nations' laws.
Not their votes in the EU or whatever, but their individual laws in the nations.
There are definitely people in the UN that would love to be able to veto you know, American state laws. But they, I mean, obviously
we have the ability to stop them, but that's the ideal and that's the goal. And that's part
of why you see all of the, I believe, part of the reason why you see all of the
ecological stuff, the word is slipping, it's the dumbest thing that I'm, I can't
find the word.
tim pool
Green New Deal.
phil labonte
There you go, thank you very much.
tim pool
Was that the word?
phil labonte
Yeah, well, no, it's not the Green New Deal, it's the environmental, there you go.
cliff maloney
Yeah, but I think we're at a breaking point because you see it, I think some say the country's
Eventually we'll have some sort of breakup.
phil labonte
Are you talking about population?
cliff maloney
No, I'm just saying, you know, with one government, right?
Like as these different world governments are coming together, I shouldn't say one world government, but you know what I mean, when these NATO groups and, you know, I mean, even the hatred for like the World Economic Forum, you know, people, I think normal folks, you get to a point where there's too, I don't want to say too many people, but you don't want to just have one set of rules, right?
When we talk about a national divorce or we talk about like, you get to a point where maybe The guys in New York City and the kids in Alabama that are working a blue collar job are not going to agree on all the same policies.
And I think that's what you're seeing.
And if you're a Democrat, or let me just say that the globalist elite type in the U.S.
and you look and see these national elections, I mean, the trend is coming towards the populism.
It's coming towards that.
phil labonte
Are you pro-national divorce?
cliff maloney
Yes.
phil labonte
Overall?
cliff maloney
Peaceful national divorce, yes.
phil labonte
What I'm saying is, is that a goal that you have?
cliff maloney
No, I just think it's inevitable.
I do.
I think at a certain point, we get to that.
No, I hope we don't.
tim pool
I don't think it's possible.
Peaceful?
Not possible.
cliff maloney
You might be right.
phil labonte
Even if it's not peaceful in the U.S., I think there is.
tim pool
Las Vegas ceases to exist.
Overnight.
In a national divorce.
That, you know, if national divorce is a 25-year process of careful negotiations between corporations and state governments, then perhaps.
Call it whatever you want.
But if we get any kind of, short of, like anything less than a decade, And it's going to just be abject chaos.
cliff maloney
Yeah, no, once again, I'm not advocating for it.
I just think at a certain point, the debt gets so high, like I said, the laws for everybody being one size fits all, I just think there's too much pushback.
tim pool
Well, I agree.
But that would be more indicative of when the system comes crashing down, no one's going to be happy with what it looks like.
I think, you know, if you look at the fall of the Soviet Union, people need to – you can look to history, because history rhymes, and then figure out what's coming next.
The same thing I would say is true for the EU in a different sense.
The EU being relatively young, should this movement we see – and we have another story that we'll pull up in a second with Germany – should this movement result in states, countries, breaking away from the EU?
They're still in a position to sustain themselves much better, but with Brexit, I think they tried to make Brexit as painful as possible, because once they took back control, they were like, let's burn it to the ground, make everyone feel the pain.
I think the same thing's true with Biden in Afghanistan.
But Europe, it's a lot younger.
The United States, man, we're 250 plus years.
We're looking at if the dissolve happens, You've got sheer dependencies, and it's going to be worse in the Soviet Union.
But what's likely going to happen is there's going to be a regional factory for, I don't know, insert meat processing plant company.
And they're going to be like, OK, our state has just broken away from the union.
Our headquarters is in a unionist state.
They're not calling us and telling us what's going on, because we have a regional manager who lives in our state.
He's fled.
He's not here anymore.
So what happens?
Who's your boss?
Well, a guy shows up with a group of other dudes armed to the teeth, and they say, we want to talk to the boss of this meat processing plant.
And he comes down and he's like, look man, I have no idea what's going on.
Like, here's what's gonna happen.
We're in charge now.
You answer to us.
I'm gonna give you my phone number, if we even have phones.
So here's how you contact me.
We're gonna make sure the supplies keep coming in and you can keep doing your job because the people of our home, they need food.
unidentified
Okay?
tim pool
I'm the boss now.
And they go, you got a boss?
And that's how you get oligarchs.
One by one, guys with guns just go and start securing different buildings, taking them over.
Food's gotta come from somewhere.
Water gotta come from somewhere.
A national meat processing plant is not going to dispatch PMCs to Nevada to secure the property.
It's just going to break.
And then it's going to get real interesting.
Las Vegas!
Y'all are in trouble!
People who live in Las Vegas are in deep trouble because if national divorce does come, Vegas doesn't have anything.
Nevada does not have anything.
cliff maloney
A lot of sand.
tim pool
A lot of sand.
And the desert reclamation of Vegas is a product of tourism.
Luxuries are not going to exist in a national divorce circumstance.
Y'all just go hungry.
But then, of course, I imagine the people who live in Nevada are going to be hungry, and they're going to not want to give up their homes, and they're going to want food.
So what does that mean?
It's going to mean conquest.
It's going to mean they're going to go out looking for food, and they're going to find it, and they're going to take it, however they have to.
Water, too.
California?
Oof, SoCal, you're in trouble.
Colorado River?
unidentified
Oof.
tim pool
That water's going sour real quick.
hannah claire brimelow
I do think, you know, a major American city, especially like Nevada or maybe even Phoenix, to a certain extent, I'm not a geographic expert here, team, but they have benefited from the fact that we encourage interstate commerce and we encourage development that allows people to live where they naturally wouldn't have settled.
I think, in contrast, Europe Because they are all actually their own countries and have their own economies, it's much easier for them to come to the realization that they could break away.
I mean, there are parts of Europe that have different challenges, but for the most part, American businesses, in my opinion, American businesses and American state governments are used to a certain amount of interdependency, where that wasn't always the case in Europe.
tim pool
The story I was told from the Spanish activists was really interesting, how the EU just basically mutilated them.
They said, so this is what the activists told me when I was in Spain back in like 2012, they said, before the EU, the currency was the peseta.
And you'd wake up in the morning, you'd go to the local, you know, coffee shop or whatever, you'd grab a newspaper.
One poseta.
You'd cup of coffee, one poseta.
You'd sit down, you'd eat, you'd drink, you'd read.
No big deal.
Then overnight, seemingly overnight, they switched to the euro.
The only problem is, one euro was three poseta.
You'd walk into the store, newspaper, one euro.
Coffee, one euro.
And you're like, that's three times increase.
So what happens is Germany says, we're gonna cut you a big fat loan.
To normalize your economy so that your people can afford it.
Now Spain is in massive debt to Germany, basically.
Germany ends up gaining majority control.
By offering up these loans to these countries that could not handle it.
Greece is in crisis.
So a lot of people are very upset, and I think the EU is ripe for dissolution, especially if Marine Le Pen wins.
Let's jump to this next story.
This is from Politico.
German conservatives first, far-right and AFD second in EU election.
Alternative for Germany beats Chancellor Olaf Scholz's Social Democrats, who had their worst result in a national election in the party's history.
There's a crazy thing in the story that there was one guy, let me see if I can find this, he was convicted for saying everything for Germany.
I guess it's not in here, I think it's in the New York Post story.
But it's a crime in Germany to say everything for Germany.
That's pretty wild.
phil labonte
When you try to take over Europe, laws reflect that kind of ambition after you lose.
tim pool
So this is very similar to the French story.
AFD, which is considered the right-wing populist party, isn't doing as well as Marine Le Pen, but they say, the conservative alliance of the Christian Democratic Union and the Christian Social Union finished first in Sunday's European election, winning 30.2% of the vote, according to a projection from German public television.
While the conservative victory was expected, the real race in Germany was for runner-up.
The far-right Alternative for Germany party was projected to finish second with 16%, a gain of 5 points, compared to the 2019 EU election.
If the result holds, it will be seen as a big success for a party that has been beset by scandals in recent months.
The party's top two candidates for EU election were implicated in a series of sensational allegations of misconduct involving suspected espionage and potential Russian influence.
Yeah, I don't believe any of it, to be honest.
Most recently, the party's lead candidate, Maximilian Krah, was forced to stop campaigning after he defended members of Hitler's Waffen-SS as not automatically criminals.
Oh, heavens.
One of the party's national leaders, Tino Trouppala, called it a historic result.
Across Europe?
Far right!
Nationalists and populist parties are projected to make sizable gains.
Nigel Farage is running too, so it just looks like... I think when you have unfettered immigration, illegal immigration, and you've got these insane videos of... I mean, I hate to say it, but there's crime.
People are terrified of the crime.
And sooner or later, there is a majority that will vote the majority.
I've been saying this to progressives.
I remember I was having a conversation like 10 years ago with some progressives, and I'm just telling them, like, you do realize unfettered immigration Mass influx of non-citizens results in a majority backlash.
Conflict and chaos, right?
If you have immigration slow, measured, allowing people to assimilate, everything goes smooth.
You bring in five million people in four years, and then you will get a massive whiplash.
There you go, Donald Trump, he's coming.
phil labonte
And it's all because a lot of governments, the people in governments, are essentially ashamed of their own countries and ashamed of the fact that they have a successful Western country and that the rest of the world doesn't have the same kind of success.
There's different countries with different government types and different cultures and you're going to end up with different results.
That's why different countries are good.
The idea that we should get rid of that?
Should just homogenize the whole world and have one country with one government, you know, the global government and one law for the whole world?
It's absurd!
tim pool
It's ridiculous!
It will only ever be tyranny.
phil labonte
Yeah, of course!
tim pool
It has to be!
Because what we're seeing in numerous countries that have tried multiculturalism is that two groups that don't like each other will end up fighting.
So a tyrannical force then comes in and tells both of them to sit down and shut up and takes from them.
You have a country of a shared culture.
Free speech.
You mostly get along.
You have multiculturalism.
You're gonna have some people being like, that's blasphemy.
You've got kids who are being charged with felonies for riding scooters on pride flags in Washington.
phil labonte
I got ideas about that.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, you say this with, like, Minnesota has laws on the books about female genital mutilation, right?
Like, that wasn't just something that was born of the Scandinavian population that settled there.
I mean, the other part is that there is nationalism or populist parties on the rise in, like, Italy, in the Netherlands, in Gre- like, it's happening- Greece not as much, but, like, Netherlands, Finland, it's happening all over the place again because ultimately I think it's this waking up of being, like, Instead of being told for generations, we need to be welcoming, you need to be tolerant.
Those are good values.
On the other hand, people are turning around saying, like, I think I need to put my family and my citizens and my neighbors first and realize that the thing that we have built for generations is special and worth protecting.
phil labonte
makes promises, and then they don't actually produce the results they promised, then the population's gonna be like, we want a new government.
cliff maloney
It's the biggest failure of virtue signaling, politically, I think ever.
This whole border issue.
Multiculturalism, you're 100% right.
phil labonte
That's real good.
cliff maloney
Until these folks, right now, they still have sex, and by the way, I have no idea about this election, I guarantee you, the Social Democrat platform is not combating the idea that they need to close their border.
Right.
And I think you're seeing that in the states.
And I think until those people in the party realize the virtue signal is not going to win elections, that normal people are waking up saying, hey, you know, you're right.
Five million people over a year.
We might have an issue here.
There's too many things that have to happen.
We have to develop this out.
We have to do it timely.
And it's crazy because the left still has that narrative and it still works for a lot of the base.
Not to turn them out, but I mean, they control that narrative and they're not open to the idea of saying, listen, there's this rise in populism.
And when I say populism, I mean, you know, being proud of your own country, right?
Being able to say, yeah, America first, not because you hate other people, but because you want to have a great place to live.
You want to have a great country.
But I think until that bow breaks, And it's happening now, I think, across the country, across the world.
There's still that sect and they're going to eventually realize you cannot win an election when you're pushing this idea that we have to have open borders all the time.
tim pool
I wonder, do leftists not have, like, a sense of nostalgia?
unidentified
Like honest question. They're afraid of being called a bigot.
They're afraid. There's so much Past is bad. Yeah, any any anything because the uh leftists
phil labonte
are thinking that I mean you look at the French revolution. They they restarted their calendar. You
look at that china. They restarted their calendar. There's a when there is a new uh, when
there is a socialist kind of government that leftist, uh idea they always want to start over with a day
one and that's happened on a ton of stuff because they they look at the past and they see any
of the failures and they're like this is all because of capitalism or whatever the organization was
monarchy or whatever all of the bad things we have to wash all of that away wipe it all
away and we have to start fresh day one new man and this go that that's what it really goes to it's
it's restarting everything they want to restart man and I I think I think to the past and I
tim pool
remember all the good stuff I don't really think that much about the bad stuff.
I mean, like, we want to get rid of it.
We want to remember the good stuff, and we want to make more good stuff.
Good thing is a good thing.
And I wonder if, like, you, because Anna Claire, you're mentioning that the things that we have built over generations are good things.
I remember waking up on Christmas Eve, It's sunrise, candles are out, but the Christmas lights are on and we're running to get the presents.
And then I remember going to the breakfast place and they got the buffet with all the French toast sticks.
That was fun and good.
I want to share those fun and good things with other people.
They want to destroy those fun and good things.
And for what though?
hannah claire brimelow
They're not replacing it with anything.
They just want chaos and instability.
And America, I find this particularly interesting because I think Americans take for granted the regional culture that we have.
And part of that is historic immigration.
Part of that is just like the fact that different people started doing different things.
Like one of my favorite stories that I could be totally wrong.
Somebody's happy to fact check me on this one.
I had heard that the origins of Father's Day, which is I think coming up this Sunday, was actually from West Virginia, that there had been a mining town where there had been a very significant collapse.
And so lots of fathers, grandfathers died and a church started it as a way to sort of like help kids whose fathers were gone.
And I think that's really interesting, right?
Now Father's Day is something we're all used to.
People might argue it's corporate, whatever else, or maybe we're not supposed to talk about fathers because that's a gendered term.
I don't even know what it is.
But these are customs that we developed because we had values that we wanted to reflect and pass down to our children.
And I think that is something that if you look at everything in the past as if it were a threat to you now, you're never able to move forward and see what you're taking with you to build a better future.
tim pool
So, this is funny, because Wikipedia says Father's Day was founded in Spokane, Washington, in 1910.
Sonora Smart Dodd, who was born in Arkansas, it celebrated blah blah blah, but then down here it says, a Father's Day service was held in 1908 in Fairmont, West Virginia, after a mining disaster killed 361 men, 250 of them were fathers.
unidentified
So, would that not... Leaving around a thousand fatherless children.
hannah claire brimelow
Isn't that crazy?
tim pool
They had a lot of kids.
They had a lot of kids.
Four kids.
All right.
They say it did not have repercussions outside of Fairmont for several reasons.
Among them, the city was overwhelmed by other events.
The celebration of Independence Day, July 4th with 12,000 attendees.
hannah claire brimelow
Some West Virginia local is giving me propaganda.
They're claiming Father's Day.
I like it.
I'll say it's a West Virginia thing.
tim pool
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
But I just mean, like, ultimately, we want to take things and make them good to continue to have a structure and a culture.
And I think that when we don't allow other nations to do – like, when Americans say, like, well, why would the EU not welcome all kinds of, you know, immigrants?
They're so bigoted and backwards.
We're taking for granted that they have their own unique cultures.
Do you remember the Slovakian Prime Minister Robert Faiku who had this attempted assassination?
This was a couple months ago.
He's considered a left-leaning populist and at one point he had gotten in trouble because he had said to the EU, well, we only want to welcome Christian migrants because we are a Christian nation.
And they were like, fake it, bad person.
But it's interesting because if that's part of the fabric of your culture, like, why wouldn't you prioritize?
phil labonte
You know, there's another phenomenon, too, that people probably aren't thinking of.
And that's the fact that a lot of the cultures that are going into Europe have a very different culture.
And the Europeans, they don't have the backbone to stand up to them.
Right.
Well, the people do, but the governments don't.
So this effort by the people to change their government is literally an effort for them to protect them.
Because if the government doesn't, if you don't have a government that can stand up to the whims of new populations, so if you get a lot of Muslims that want Sharia or want stuff like that, those things are abhorrent to Western Civilizations.
Western laws.
You can't have Sharia law in a Western country.
If you don't have a liberal government that's got the backbone to stand up and say, no, we're not going to have those kinds of things.
Like Tim said, we're already having that stuff kind of here with the whole LGBT stuff.
You'll see the same thing in Europe with a lot of Islam and stuff because the Islamic people, they won't tolerate the stuff that the liberals will.
So the liberals have to at least have as much backbone as the people that are coming in.
And if they don't, the people that are coming in are going to take over.
tim pool
They're going to change it.
And it's a really simple analogy.
If I got a house, I invite you over, and on every Friday night we order pizza and wings.
And then you say, I don't want pizza and wings.
I'll say, then you can leave.
Because Friday is pizza and wing night.
We've been doing it forever.
Me and the homies, we get together, we order pizza and wings, and we play Xbox split-screen from back in 2006 on our old garbage backlit TV.
And if you don't like it, you can leave.
And I can't imagine, like, you do this thing because it's fun to do, it's fun with your friends, you enjoy doing it, and then what?
You invite some people over and they're like, nah, we're here now and so now you have to do what we want to do.
It's like, nah, get out.
This idea that liberals have where it's like, anyone can come here and anyone can do whatever they want and then we're going to change the fabric of society for them too.
Instead of putting Merry Christmas up everywhere, we're going to put Happy Holidays.
And I'm like, why?
I got no beef, they can celebrate.
Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, whatever they want to do, that's absolutely fine.
But if we traditionally in this town celebrate Christmas, why should we change that?
They can come and celebrate with us, and they can do what they want to do.
They can have their celebration when they want to have their celebration, and we'll do ours.
I think this is what's happening in Europe, is that people remember growing up as kids, they remember the things that they liked, and they want to transfer down to the kids that they're having, if they're having kids.
And there are people who come in who don't share those things.
And then their local towns say, well, look, 30% of the population here, they want to celebrate, you know, this different holiday.
So they voted and we have to accommodate them.
So we will.
And that takes away from the traditions that people know, love, and enjoy for no reason.
Cultural traditions, like celebrating a holiday, bring people together with shared experiences and helps strengthen a community which you need to survive.
That's what humans are.
Why change all of that for someone else who's coming here?
Look, the people who are coming to the United States, they're guests.
Asylum seekers, they call them.
Okay, well the ones that actually are, I say this, I got a spare bedroom, I'm gonna let you stay in it, and Friday is pizza and wings.
That's it.
You have no say in the matter.
I'll share my pizza with you.
hannah claire brimelow
Right.
tim pool
Instead, they're coming in and being like, I want tabbouleh.
And I'm like, dude, come on, man.
I got no beef with tabbouleh.
You know, it's good when it's good, but we do pizza and wings on Friday.
hannah claire brimelow
I think one of the challenges, if you're asking people, you know, I'm pretty anti-immigration.
I think that's pretty clear to everyone.
But if you're asking people, so you have whatever amount of net migration you're saying, Please come to our country, respect our laws, and we'll try our best to help you acclimate to our culture.
If we're saying, but actually we don't care about our culture and we're kind of getting rid of it and we'll really do whatever you're wanting, like, you're actually not giving anyone who immigrates the tools to become a part of your society.
And I think that is, you know, it's this weird challenge between being like, well, we thought we were so welcoming that we just do away with everything that made us a country, which made them want to come here in the first place.
And so now we don't know what we're doing and we're all kind of fighting for our power structure.
Like, it's not good.
cliff maloney
Yeah, and I think what Phil said, you know, there has to be somebody willing to push back, right?
Whether it's government, whether it's the community, whatever it is.
phil labonte
Your government has to have the backbone to defend you.
cliff maloney
And when you say, like, Happy Holidays is a great example, it's like somebody has to make a choice, right?
At some point, it's like, all right, we're putting up the sign in the town square, you know.
And the argument from the wokesters is always like, oh, well, come on, like, we want to be included.
It's like, no, somebody has to sit there and they have to feel enough pressure, whether it's from, you know, some government edict or not.
Look at the Pride Month stuff.
When they put up, you know, they don't do that in some of these countries.
See the corporations?
It's like, why?
Because when somebody makes a choice, and the motive's there, and there aren't enough people or governments or whatever pushing back, they're never gonna stop.
But it's that choice.
tim pool
The worst thing about it is that if we were like, it's Taco Tuesday, and it's like, this is what we do at work on Tuesday, we just order a bunch of tacos and stuff, and you know, because we like it, we like it.
And a lot of people need to understand this, that like, tacos, burritos, as most people know, it's Tex-Mex.
It's not Mexican food.
So now that you understand that, it is American, to a certain degree.
But anyway, my point is, I'm kidding.
My point is, Happy Holidays is like saying it's Food Day.
Happy Holidays is like, you're not celebrating anything at all.
There's no celebration.
It's just like, you're doing a thing!
So imagine you had Taco Tuesday, but some people came over to your house and you're like, no, from now on, we're doing Food Tuesday.
It's like, food!
It's like, well, we eat food all the time.
We celebrate things for various reasons, but today's Christmas!
cliff maloney
They take the fun out of everything.
They take the detail.
Everything has to be vague to try to fit into a box, because why?
Because that box doesn't offend anybody.
phil labonte
No, they want to get rid of Christmas because of the culture.
unidentified
Right.
100%.
hannah claire brimelow
They're anti-Santa.
cliff maloney
Well, because Christmas offends non-Christians, right?
And it's always about how do we not offend people.
unidentified
No, no, no, no, no.
phil labonte
It's not the offense.
It's the fact that Christmas brings people together.
cliff maloney
I would agree.
tim pool
Well, hold on.
Christmas doesn't offend non-Christians.
It offends communists.
I know a lot of... I know people who are Muslim.
They're just like, that's great.
That's awesome that you celebrate.
I don't celebrate that.
And then I know people who are Jewish.
Oh, that's, you know, I'm Buddhist.
I know a Hare Krishna guy.
They're not mad about it.
It is communists who are very, very upset about it.
And partly because it brings people together.
It forms communal bonds.
And it is a tie to the roots of your moral foundation that they need to destroy.
phil labonte
Absolutely.
cliff maloney
And so those communists, though, I would agree with that.
But that's what I'm saying.
The communists then go and pressure the corporations, right?
You're offending people.
You know, you can't say happy holidays.
That's what you have to say, right?
It's all these pressure points.
But yeah, it does go back to that.
It's a great point.
phil labonte
The more the left can destabilize your society, the more they're going to, because that's their Access to power when they can destabilize the society then you have riffs in society and you have people that have tensions and stuff They can find those those tensions and they can pick at him and pick at him.
It's the dialectic you know, it's the whole like look for the problem and pick up the problem because essentially The idea in the ideologically informed leftist, I understand your perspective and some people don't consider the leftist to be all that philosophical or whatever.
There is a core of it that comes from philosophy and it is that they believe the perfected society exists and all of these bad things have wrapped up around it and the more they pick the bad things away, the more that you'll be able to expose the good thing inside.
It's literally the dialectic.
You present the opposite and it comes to a deeper understanding, and that's what they're doing.
They're trying to pull the parts of society apart to be able to say, we can get to the good in the center.
tim pool
The creamy nougat, the core of the society of chocolate.
It's exactly the truth.
Let's jump to the story from the post-millennial.
Breaking!
Joe Biden approval rating hits all-time low of 37.4%.
Ah, it's a sad day indeed for Joe.
Old sleepy Joe, that video resurfaced where he did the Cornholio hands.
Did you guys see that one?
unidentified
I did.
cliff maloney
It's great.
tim pool
Cornholio hands.
Okay, for those that don't know, it's a reference to Beavis and Butthead, where Beavis, upon having a consuming psychoactive stimulants of some sort, because it wasn't just coffee, one time he ate pills, would pull his shirt over his head and then put his hands out like this and start walking around with his hands up.
So this is an actual phenomenon that happens to people with dementia.
They begin to experience it's called called called cornhole.
Oh, hands where their arms are 90 degree angle and they walk around going like
this. Biden is doing this.
And this was two years ago.
Then you watch that interview with them when he's talking about Ukraine and
he's like, Ukrainians.
unidentified
I've authorized.
To use these missiles only.
tim pool
And it's just like, wow, this guy is gone.
They got to be pumping him full of the crazy.
That meme is true.
That this debate, when he debates Trump, we are going to see the Manhattan Project of psychoactive stimulants.
His eyes are going to be wide open, his pupils fully dilated, and he's going to be like, It's gonna be nuts.
phil labonte
Adderall Joe.
tim pool
Oh, no, no, no, no, no.
Adderall's already like four different meth salts.
Then you got modafinil, you know what that is?
phil labonte
No.
tim pool
Modafinil, that's the actual drug name, right?
Because the brand name I think is Provigil.
You don't need to sleep.
They give to like astronauts and snipers.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
You take it, you don't, you just stay, you don't sleep.
phil labonte
You don't need to sleep?
tim pool
It takes away this, you need to sleep, but you take it and then you're awake.
And you know, and you know, they got all sorts of crazy stuff.
They're cooking up in those labs that they're going to ivy right into.
He's going to have his hand hidden the whole time.
And there's going to be like a tube going to like, you know, that's the only way they're going to pull it off.
But anyway.
I think FiveThirtyEight was mentioning this.
Yeah, FiveThirtyEight's average has Biden at an all-time low of 37.4.
That's crazy because FiveThirtyEight heavily favors Democrats.
They say, according to FiveThirtyEight's senior editor, Nathaniel Rakich.
His approval rating is at an all-time low.
The lowest record approval rating for the president comes amid the ongoing crisis on immigration.
Surprise, surprise.
In a recent poll, 62% of Americans have said they would approve of mass deportation efforts in the U.S., including a majority of Hispanic voters.
The border continues to dog Biden.
Yada yada, we get it.
It's a top issue among voters.
This is despite him taking executive action on the border, which reportedly will not stop at least 1.5 million illegal immigrants.
Well, let me give you some, let me enlighten you on that one.
It'll stop zero because they've created exceptions for all of them.
And apparently the instructions from CBP is to do nothing.
So even though Biden claims that he came out and did this, the actual legitimate response is keep doing exactly what you're doing.
cliff maloney
I think the left has an information problem because they're used to being able to solve these so-called problems where they're polling horribly by just relying on the mainstream media.
Right.
And so now that these things get out with alternative media and people are videoing these people crossing the border.
Right.
It's like, what are they going to do?
They put this press release out and they think, oh, you know, there's a problem at the border, but Biden's handling now he's put something out.
People aren't stupid.
And I just think that they're pushing back.
And what I love is his numbers with black Americans, Hispanic Americans, you know, across even suburban women are moving away from Biden.
It's because it impacts everybody that's here.
Like you said, the people that aren't guests, the folks that are here, this hits everybody.
And I just think with the disbursement of information that we have now, there's just no way to hide from it.
There's no way to hide from it.
And you're creating an incentive now when they say, oh, the first so and such.
So everybody's rushing to the border, like, oh, we got to get here.
phil labonte
Like that is not going to help.
Do you get the sense that there are still a realistic or reasonable amount of movable votes?
People that will actually change?
cliff maloney
I do.
I don't think it's what people think in terms of swing voters.
I think what has happened is I think there are a lot of people that reluctantly voted for Biden. There's people that reluctantly
voted for Trump. I mean, you know, we don't think of it that way. But I think in some of these
blue collar areas, I mean, a state like West Virginia, right? Philly suburbs, Western
PA, a lot of these old school Democrats that, you know, Obama almost broke them, but they still,
you know, hey, I'm in a working class Democrat family.
I grew up Democrat.
We're Democrats.
Then Trump came along and they were thinking about it, right?
And I just think now, you talk about his mental acuity.
I don't think in the last six months it has been the same deterioration.
I think it is just off the charts.
And I really think that this first debate is going to be the final straw.
tim pool
His approval rating is going to go to one.
Could you imagine if he walks out there with the Cornholio hands and his eyes squinted and then all of a sudden his back just straightens out, his hands come down, his eyes open wide and he says, I'm here to debate Donald Trump and save this country from this man.
It's just pure articulate genius.
What are the odds on that?
For a dollar bet, you win a million bucks?
phil labonte
Something like that.
cliff maloney
A trillion.
hannah claire brimelow
I think this is becoming the thing that mainstream media is trying to point out.
I watched this clip on Morning Joe where they have Biden being interviewed in Normandy and he's like, He's got this weird whisper now.
It's like, you know, we can never, we have to stay and support our allies and like, they want to act like he's acting very serious, but actually he's just sort of like losing his voice and mind.
But the next segment, they were like, well, Trump at this rally told this story about shark attacks, and it made no sense.
He's clearly losing his mind and this, that and the other, like, because Biden is actually not doing well, and it's not even to be mean.
Like, he does not seem to be performing at the level that he was during the 2020 campaign.
He does not seem to be performing at the level that he was, you know, even two years ago.
They are now trying to shift the narrative to be like, well, Trump is the one who's losing his mind.
And I don't know how you feel about this.
Like, I wonder if during the debate, the strategy from Biden's team is going to be just try and make Trump mad and have him talk about his record.
Because I think the most powerful thing Trump could do is to push Biden on where we are as a country under his leadership.
cliff maloney
I think my advice to him is to be the Trump of 2016 in the debates, not the Trump of 2020.
Shut up.
Let Biden talk.
tim pool
Yeah.
cliff maloney
I mean, he doesn't say anything.
My favorite Biden quote is, what do you talk about when he got nothing to say?
He said that when he was like running for president in 08.
And now it's like every time you watch Joe Biden, he's not saying anything.
Like even as he's stumbling, I don't mean like, you know, he's having gaffes.
If you listen to what he's saying, he's like not even putting coherent thoughts together.
tim pool
Trump could be like, I agree with you, but it would be funny for Trump to be like, You know, I got a question for Joe.
What is beta-caf-care?
unidentified
Beta-caf-care, that's what he said he was going to work on, and I'm curious what he's doing with it.
tim pool
And then they're going to be like, what?
And he'll be like, don't ask me, I don't know, Biden said it.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
And then, and also I'm curious about treating that shop at a pressure.
That was a big one.
Nexnel-Ressent, also a very big one.
cliff maloney
We thought caffefe was bad, but now we've got them verbally.
tim pool
Caffefe was funny, because that was clearly just sausage fingers on the iPhone, you know what I mean?
cliff maloney
Taking a crap, and he's like, what am I doing here?
tim pool
You know, it's funny, there's this tweet from this woman, and she's like, Even though they've now confirmed the Hunter Biden laptop is real, and that it's actually his laptop, serial number and everything, we still don't know chain of custody, so it has all the hallmarks of a Russian disinformation campaign.
hannah claire brimelow
What?
tim pool
And I was thinking about it, and I'm like, there is more evidence that Joe Biden pooped his pants than the Hunter Biden laptop is part of a Russian disinformation scheme.
Like, we have a video of Joe Biden making an awkward movement, which doesn't prove he pooped his pants.
It is evidence.
There's literally nothing about the Hunter Biden laptop being Russian disinformation.
It's literally just his laptop with all of his stuff on it.
hannah claire brimelow
That was admitted into evidence during his trial.
Do you think that the stress that Hunter Biden's trial is adding to Joe Biden is increasing his mental decline?
Because I've heard that with dementia patients, that when they're experiencing stress, when they're out of it.
cliff maloney
I think he's completely aloof.
I don't think he's really looped into anything that's going on.
hannah claire brimelow
They say he talks to Hunter every day.
unidentified
Yes.
hannah claire brimelow
That's why I'm wondering.
tim pool
But while you are correct, Hannah-Claire, there is a certain point where when you lose cognitive function, it's Joe Biden sitting there in his chair and they're like, Joe, the jury has begun deliberations.
And all Joe hears is boo!
So you can't really stress a guy out if he can't hear or understand what you're saying, you know?
cliff maloney
Interesting.
tim pool
I'm sorry, a good example is if you ran to someone and screamed that there was like a sulfur hexafluoride burst from a main and we fear that the contamination is expanding.
The average person is going to be like, uh, do I run, climb?
I don't know what to do.
Like, am I stressed?
You're sounding stressed.
I think I got an X stress.
I don't know.
You go to Joe Biden and his cognition is so low.
It's just, you can't stress him out unless he gets ice cream out of his hand.
That's what would happen.
If he's got an ice cream in his hand, you take it from him and then you're really driving him into the gutter.
cliff maloney
Yeah, my prediction, I'll make it here on your show, I think he craps his pants at the debate, and they use that, maybe not literally, but I think they use this debate as the reason to get him off the ticket.
Now, he's going to have tons of legal problems, you know, who is the Democrat, how do they get ballot access, etc.
But I'm telling you right now, guess what?
Guess who does well in the courts?
Democrats, right?
I think they will push this, and I just, I don't think he's going to be, I hope he's the guy, for the record, I hope he's on the ballot.
hannah claire brimelow
You're supportive of Joe Biden being the Democrat nominee?
cliff maloney
I do not think he will be.
tim pool
So I was talking about this last year, the scenario where Joe Biden is doing a rally in California and he's like, we're going to bring America back.
And then he just grips his chest, keels over.
Gavin Newsom throws off his jacket, rolls his sleeves up, starts doing chest compressions, saves the president's life.
He was having an episode, they call it.
It wasn't a heart attack.
It was a cardiac episode.
And Joe Biden then, incapacitated, says, you know, Gavin Newsom, you know, what a good guy.
He goes on this press tour where they're like, you saved the president's life.
And that's how they get in Gavin Newsom, right?
Kamala Harris comes in as acting president, but says she does not want to run again.
She's not seeking, you know, I cannot campaign because I'm here to help this country as acting president, as my duty, and I will hand the torch over to someone else.
What if, at the debate, the same thing happens with Joe, but it's Donald Trump who throws his jacket off, saves Joe Biden's life, and they're like, Donald Trump just saved the president.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, it reminds me of this argument that everyone is saying he should pardon Hunter.
If Hunter Biden's convicted, Donald Trump should pardon him.
Yes.
It'd be really fascinating.
cliff maloney
Just as I have said in the beginning, I think Biden's best political move would have been to pardon Trump on the things he could.
And when people say, oh, well, the state issues, like, all right, we'll talk to the governors in those states that are part of your party.
I just think it's such an easy political move.
I mean, what are they going to do?
Put Trump in prison for a couple months?
I mean, is that the best thing they're going to get out of it?
Why wouldn't you take the political points, as Biden, and just pardon the guy?
I mean, I think he gets two or three points from doing that.
I think those people I'm talking about would be like, man, it's way too late now.
But I just think it was one of the biggest missed opportunities.
phil labonte
You think he nets two or three points?
tim pool
They'd say he's very magnanimous.
phil labonte
They would say he's magnanimous.
Do you think he nets two or three points?
cliff maloney
I think Biden gets back some people.
I think it's a political whim for him if he was going to do this.
Now he's eight months too late.
phil labonte
My dude.
Have you looked at what the left behaves like nowadays?
If he pardoned Trump, if Biden pardoned Trump, I think that would probably be the thing that would get him ousted the most quickly.
But the Democrats would be like, you did what?
hannah claire brimelow
I do.
I felt like when he campaigned in 2020, he was sort of signaling that he was going to be a one-term president, that he was sort of the last of the old Guard of Democrats and he was ready to usher in this new era of Democrat leadership.
Like, I felt like he signaled that way.
And so I think if he really honestly had only been planning to serve four years, he could have pardoned him.
And then, you know, Democrats collectively would have won points.
It would go against the narrative that everything Donald Trump does is so bad, we must take desperate steps to stop him before he, you know, I don't know, ends the world or whatever they think Donald Trump is going to do.
It would be, it would have been interesting, but I think he only would have done it if he wasn't running for re-election.
You think that he would have- I think he only would have pardoned Trump if he wanted to be a one-term president.
phil labonte
Oh, I don't think that- I think that's a- that's a- I mean, I think it's a silly notion.
I think that- I honestly think that Democrats are far too aggressive and far too- too believing of- like, they're drinking their own Kool-Aid.
Like, they believe Donald Trump's a threat, so.
tim pool
Yeah, a lot of people are suggesting jail time is the goal.
There's a bunch of pundits that are popping up in news articles saying, for the crimes that Donald Trump is convicted, you have to have jail time.
We're talking about 34 felony convictions.
There's no scenario where you give someone anything else.
And the reporting is that prosecutors are going to seek jail time.
phil labonte
And also, back to the Biden pardoning thing.
Biden I'm sorry, I lost what I was going to say.
unidentified
Go ahead.
phil labonte
I'm sorry.
tim pool
Biden pardoning?
phil labonte
Yeah, Biden was pardoning.
It was talking about Biden pardoning and boosting his polls.
hannah claire brimelow
I think it's a really interesting concept.
I'm glad you brought it up because the question is, what was the function of Biden's presidency, right?
If it was for the Democrats to sort of regain the White House and then potentially, you know, stop electing old white men and have a new More colorful leadership or whatever like then he could have done a lot of things differently if he was only planning on being a one term president.
But I really think that Biden or Biden and the structure that is propping him up is power hungry and they wanted to stay in the White House.
And I think that changes the way you behave.
You're not not acting for party anymore.
You're acting for self.
cliff maloney
And I think the Democrats care about keeping power, period.
Now, if that means Biden gets one term and they realize we can't keep power with this guy, we're going to move to somebody else, or if they think he's our best shot, they move in that direction.
But these folks are serious.
I mean, they said they were never going to impeach him.
They impeached him.
They said they're never going to charge him with a crime.
They charge him with a crime.
They said they never convicted him.
They convicted him.
They said, oh, there's no way they're going to put him in prison.
They're about to put him in prison.
And I think each of those points Polling might tell me I'm wrong, but I think each of those have backfired on the Democrats and have helped him in each way alone.
Now, their base gets riled up, don't get me wrong, but I think—I mean, look at how much money Trump's raised, right?
tim pool
I just think— Was it 400?
cliff maloney
Over, like, a week?
tim pool
400 million dollars?
But that includes big donors making PAC, like— All in.
cliff maloney
Yeah, yeah.
Bundled money.
hannah claire brimelow
No, there was a ton of money to collect there, though.
tim pool
I think it was, I think Trump said it was 400, right?
I could be wrong.
phil labonte
I'm not sure.
But even still, like, that kind of money that fast?
I mean, Hillary Clinton spent a billion to lose.
Barack Obama spent a billion.
I don't know what Joe Biden spent, but the Joe Biden campaign in 2020 was weird.
But I don't think Trump has spent He spent his own money on this stuff.
I don't know his finances, and he says a lot of stuff, so I'm not going to go ahead and make comments about what actually happened.
But I know that he didn't spend nearly as much money as Clinton or Obama did, and a lot of that reason is because of the amount of coverage that he got from the news.
But having $400 million tucked away to run ads and use PAX... He already had $400 million in cash?
Oh, it's an additional.
tim pool
He raised that?
cliff maloney
Yes, yes.
tim pool
So there was $141 million in direct donations, 25% new donors, $100 million from Miriam Adelson, commitment to helping Trump get elected.
And then I think, have you found that yet?
hannah claire brimelow
So in February 2024, he was saying he had $400 million.
And gosh, in May alone, they raised $141 million.
tim pool
But that doesn't include Miriam Adelson.
And Trump, I think, made the claim at one of his rallies that they had hit some number close to that or something.
But if we don't have that, we'll just say maybe I'm wrong on that one.
hannah claire brimelow
I'm wondering if the Miriam Adelson came in during June or May.
tim pool
Because they raised... The Miriam Adelson came right after the conviction.
cliff maloney
Conviction, yeah.
tim pool
So people were saying Trump raised $200 million because he had $100 million in donors, like literal people going to the website donating, and then you had Miriam Adelson being like, I will commit $100 million, but she wants the West Bank annexed, by the way.
cliff maloney
But if you look at trends, I mean, I have to tell you, the 25% number of new donors, that is mind-boggling.
People making their first-time contribution.
The guy's been the president.
He then lost in 2020.
It's not like he's new.
Do you know how many new donors Joe Biden is getting?
People that are inspired and that are stepping up and saying, hey, I'm going to come in and help this guy.
So I look at it as an opportunity.
Then those people might have came in for $10, but guess what?
I want to give, right?
They're going to keep getting asked.
And so I think that to me was the craziest.
Yeah, the big dollars are great, but when you start locking in new people... I had plenty of people that are not really political texting me.
They're like, this is BS.
You know, I can't believe they're doing this to him.
And they're not political people, but I just think they've had enough.
tim pool
June 6th.
So this was reported on June 6th.
hannah claire brimelow
Let me see if I can get... Washington Digest was reporting the $400 million.
tim pool
Trump announced at a Turning Point action event in Phoenix, Arizona that they had raised $400 million since the New York City guilty verdict.
So that likely includes the Adelson numbers.
Let's jump to this story from ABC3340.
That's a big number.
Fetterman says stroke gave him freedom to distance himself from progressives.
Very liberating.
This was a meme.
This was a meme that Fetterman was this progressive guy, suffered a stroke, and then it snapped him out of it, and then he became sort of just like this normal Democrat.
And now he's saying it's true!
This is absolutely wild.
I mean, hey, shout out to Fetterman.
Explain to Bill Maher on a show real time what prompted him to separate himself from progressives.
Fetterman has repeatedly distanced himself from fellow Democrats in recent months during the show.
Maher asked him why he tends to diverge.
He said, I think there's a big difference between an old school liberal and a woke person.
You say progressive Democrat.
How do you describe this?
Maher asked.
I've been saying that for years.
Thought I'm gonna agree.
I didn't leave the label, it left me.
Oh, he's pulling a left, left me, huh?
He credited his recovery from his stroke for giving him freedom to speak his mind, adding the near-death experience taught him he no longer wants to be afraid of it if there's any kind of blowback.
Quote, There's not going to be any kind of way how the Democrats are going to be able to reply to that.
I really decided early on that I believed that was going to be the right side with Israel throughout all of that.
And I knew Democrats would continue to peel away and kind of walk away from standing with Israel on that.
Marr then asked if some liberals came to support Hamas, when they'd historically been strong supporters of Israel.
And Fetterman acknowledged many Democrats have begun to overlook what Marr calls a gender apartheid in the Middle East.
There are no rights for women, and they certainly don't embrace the LGBTQ lifestyle, Fetterman said of many Middle Eastern countries.
Queers for Palestine blocked the Pride Parade in Philadelphia, and I just never saw that on the bingo card.
You know, we all did.
We saw this coming because I think it was in...
I don't know the UK counties or whatever, it's like Birmingham maybe in the UK or something, I don't know.
But there was this big story six years ago where a bunch of LGBTQ activists showed up to a bunch of Muslims who are protesting LGBTQ curriculum in schools.
And you've got women in full, like, niqab, is that the right word?
phil labonte
There's a couple of them.
Burka and Niqab.
I'm not sure which one.
tim pool
Yeah, Niqab is the full covering, right?
And there's like women fully covered with gloves on.
And there's LGBTQ protesters showing up being like, we're doing this for you.
And they're screaming like, no!
degeneracy and like other really bad things that these people it's like it
was plainly obvious to everybody that the whole conservative religious
institution of Islam is not going to abide by the LGBTQ stuff. Fetterman
saying I didn't see on the bingo card that explains why he was a progressive
for as long as he was and then he saw the bingo card and now he's figured it
phil labonte
The only thing that Jews and religious Muslims have in common is they're not really all that fond of the West, and they hate the Jews.
The idea that you can have a population in your society that's dictating religious laws In a liberal society, it's like we were talking about earlier, this is not going to work, right?
You're not going to have a situation where the population is going to say, OK, we're OK with LGBT stuff or the incoming population that has committed religious goals or committed religious convictions.
They really believe their religion.
And and fair enough.
But like, you're not going to get them to say, oh, Well, we believed our religion before, but now that we're inside this geographic area, we're gonna go ahead and loosen up that stuff because we're here.
They're not going to.
They're gonna ask for the area that they're in to change because they've already started changing it.
There's talk about...
Sharia patrols and stuff like that.
You hear about that in the UK.
I've heard that that's happening in New York right now.
hannah claire brimelow
I've heard that too.
What I actually was thinking when you're talking was there are cities that have been asked for permission to play the call to prayer because they have such a significant Muslim population at this point, which is interesting, right?
Maybe it's up to the city to decide whether or not they want to do that.
But again, if theoretically, the city was a Christian nation, that's not something that's traditionally there.
So the society is changing to accommodate this cultural practice.
I think Fetterman's comments are really interesting because what he's saying is like, I am not going to go along with what my party is saying, and especially for, you know, a pretty new member of the government.
That's unusual, right?
That usually there's a period where everyone's sort of falling in line and wanting to curry favor with the more senior members.
In some ways, I feel like I did give Fetterman, I feel almost bad that I gave Fetterman a hard time because for a while there he was just like really out of it.
It did not seem like he was going to be able to stay in office at all.
And now he seems to be becoming sort of the most interesting part of Congress right now.
cliff maloney
He's definitely the most sane Democrat.
One thing on this, I call these privilege point debates and I love watching them.
Right, it is, it is.
That's always my asterisk there.
But privilege point debates are what I would call these.
And as a white male, I sit back and let these groups argue it out with each other.
But like, yeah, the Philadelphia Parade, I mean, when those two groups are going at it, they're trying to tell and signal to each other, what is the priority?
Right?
What is the priority of our virtue signaling groups and who gets to be the standard bearer?
And they go where there's attention.
So it's a jealousy thing, right?
No, you guys can't have this parade.
You know, this is higher on our priority list of virtue signaling.
We must have this as the priority.
And I just like to sit back and let them argue because most people are like, wow, this is insane.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, you're making me think of all the protests where you see, you know, pro-Palestine people clashing with Pride March people.
And you're like, you would have thought you were all the same team, except I never thought you were the same team, but you guys sort of did, and now you're fighting.
Like, interesting.
phil labonte
Just against the West, that's it.
cliff maloney
Fetterman's funny, though, in PA, my home state of PA, people always ask, you know, how'd you guys elect John Fetterman?
And it's like, the one thing he has going for him, and I can get in trouble for saying this, is he is, like, a very normal guy, and I don't mean that, like, mentally, I mean, he just interacts, he's a normal guy, and that's kinda his shtick.
tim pool
That's why he does the hoodie and the shorts.
cliff maloney
Oz comes in from New Jersey, they got Snooki to do the video, blew up Oz, whatever.
Oz didn't want to do ballot chasing, that's for another day, my little plug there.
But Fetterman, I think it's funny to see this break between the whole donor class and the activist class, and he's just like, to hell with you guys, I'm doing my own thing.
tim pool
This is a mistake that the people on the right made with Fetterman.
They started attacking him for the way he dressed in his campaign.
I said, you will lose because of this.
Because there's going to be some blue collar Democrat guy who wears a hoodie and shorts and is going to be like, these stodgy uptight dudes are insulting me.
It's the same thing with Trump and the well done steak with ketchup.
Donald Trump orders a 30-day dry-aged steak.
Probably a $120 steak, by the way.
And then he says, I want it well done with ketchup.
And the media took the bait.
And they mocked and belittled him and laughed at him.
And I knew that there was some middle-class dude who had just got back from his local save-on or whatever, with a couple of T-bones, frying him up on a pan, looking at the TV, looking down at his food, looking at his kids, and being like, What are you yelling at me for?
phil labonte
He's like, well, I mean, it's medium well, but still, you know, like, it's like small things like that.
cliff maloney
You pair that with Oz in the grocery store that he like had this big gaff where he talked about, was it crudite?
I don't even know.
I don't know what that is.
Yeah.
Crudite.
That should tell you about my upbringing.
Yeah.
And it's like all my buddies.
phil labonte
He was making ratatouille, which again.
cliff maloney
All my buddies outside of Philadelphia are like, what the hell is that?
And I'm like, I don't know.
And they ran with that.
But it goes exactly back to that.
Fetterman connects.
He does.
Even if you think he's crazy, he connects with people.
tim pool
And listen.
You need to understand the depth of human consciousness on average is relatively low.
People are just thinking like the average person is just thinking about what they need to get through the day.
They're not sitting there having some deep moral philosophical conversations over tax policy and the percentage increase in the interest rates.
All they're doing is saying, look man, I come home from work, my kid says, Dad, I'm hungry.
I say, we're going to go grab some food.
I am tired.
I am filthy.
And the cheeseburger costs $5.
Okay.
I vote for people so they can figure that thing out while I'm building houses, while I'm fixing toilets.
Society runs because of these people and they don't want to have those big debates.
So Fetterman shows up and says, I got cheeseburgers.
And then you get Oz and he's like, crudités.
in my fine suit.
phil labonte
And $5 for a cheeseburger for your 4-year-old, you're going to spend, you know, the kid's
going to eat half of it maybe.
But still, it's an exorbitant amount of money and the average person is struggling.
So if you seem like you're above that, like if you seem like you don't understand, can't
relate, you're done.
hannah claire brimelow
What's the Bill Gates thing?
Wasn't he in an interview and someone was like, well, how much does milk cost?
And he was like, I don't know, it's $10.
cliff maloney
They asked Hillary that.
They asked Hillary that like during the 16th.
Like what's a carton of eggs cost?
She had no clue.
tim pool
I have no idea.
cliff maloney
Because I have chickens.
tim pool
Because I have chickens.
So I just we have like 140 eggs downstairs.
hannah claire brimelow
I'm so sick of this chicken.
unidentified
Really?
cliff maloney
You're my new egg guy.
I'm gonna have to buy my eggs from you.
tim pool
Have a carton on your way out.
Because we got a city full of chickens.
So I can't tell you how much they cost because we just have an infinite supply.
They make more of themselves and they make more eggs.
And then sometimes the eggs become more of themselves.
phil labonte
All you gotta do is protect them.
tim pool
That's right.
We have to put a little fence around them and then...
hannah claire brimelow
I think the first time I ever heard of Fetterman was I'm going to totally be clear on how much estrogen I have right now.
First time I ever heard of him he was on a relationship podcast with his wife and they were talking about how they met like giving their love story and this was a I think it was either in 2019 or 2020.
And so they think he really did lead.
A lot of people do this when they're about to enter, you know, another level of politics that they sort of soft launch with like a book or they've got a documentary or like whatever.
But it was really interesting because it definitely led with like a, I am just a local boy who does these things and I support my wife while she does whatever.
Like it was much more about being relatable or about the relationship as it was in its current state than about, you know, Seeming like it was an insight into sort of a glamorous lifestyle that you're not a part of.
cliff maloney
The guy got elected to the U.S.
Senate.
He looks like Uncle Fester.
And I don't think enough people give him credit because it's like, he pulled it off.
He's a genius politically.
I mean, people like think, oh, he's this... Someone said stroke of genius in the chat room.
He attached himself to Wolf.
So he's a lieutenant governor, right?
So he attached himself to this rich, kind of stuck up Democrat, very like old school liberal.
And keeps his mantra.
And that's how he got funding.
That's how he got through.
And I mean, it was crazy.
And then for him to jump in, I mean, nobody thought he could win a U.S.
Senate race.
And I just, I get in trouble for saying, I give him credit because he pulled off a win.
hannah claire brimelow
OK, can I ask you a question about the vice president's candidates?
Because I have heard, you know, there's a short list, Doug Burgum's theoretically on it, Marco Rubio, J.D.
Vance.
And one of the things that I have heard is one of J.D.
Vance's appeal is that he is from, you know, Appalachia, grew up with this crazy childhood.
You know, he is more relatable to a lot of Americans than someone else.
Do you think that's an appeal that works for conservatives, too?
Or do you think it's just about winning, you know, conservatives?
Is his effect only appealing to conservatives when they see it from a Democrat?
cliff maloney
I think J.D.
Vance would be an amazing political choice.
I happen to agree with him on a lot of ideological positions, too.
But I do think that, yeah, it's a political calculation, right?
I mean, a lot of people are pushing for Tim Scott or Ben Carson.
Doug Burgum is in consideration because he comes with hundreds of millions of dollars.
So I think there's different reasons, but I mean, I think The number one reason you pick somebody like a J.D.
Vance is I do think he connects not just with conservatives, but with those folks who care about putting food on the table for their kids.
J.D.
Vance, I mean, you know, read his book, watch the movie.
I mean, it does connect.
He had a tough life, you know, and I think when you look at those things, I think those stories and focusing more on those issues than like the policy issues of trying to pick somebody that, oh, well, Tim Scott is his policy record.
No, what's the story and how do you connect with people?
So that's why I think J.D.
would be a great choice.
hannah claire brimelow
It'd be interesting.
tim pool
Let's jump to some boring foreign policy and then make it not so boring, I guess, because Russia is sending a naval fleet to Cuba and people are concerned about Cuban Missile Crisis 2.0.
This is basically part of Russia's threat to the West because of what's currently going on in Ukraine.
And I love this because the way the media is reporting it, Russian military exercise in the Caribbean.
Here's what to expect.
That's interesting.
The media could have absolutely pounced and made a story about World War III, Russia, keep it... Ah, they don't want to.
Now that it's coming home, now that the funding into Ukraine is coming home to roost, the last thing the corporate press wants is to scare the American public who has blindly supported this.
I'm talking to you, Harry!
We all know which Harry I'm talking about.
Blindly supporting Joe Biden, who is sleepwalking us, quite literally, into World War III.
Russia's not playing around.
And so the headlines are very, very light.
Just military exercises.
Don't worry about it.
Don't worry about it.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, and they have to keep up this narrative that Biden has really put Putin in his place and he's very good at managing that.
cliff maloney
Can you imagine those conversations with Joe Biden and these foreign leaders?
Look, I don't care if you hate Donald Trump.
I don't care.
phil labonte
It happened.
cliff maloney
He doesn't even pick up.
You can't imagine that Biden picks up the phone.
I mean, if anything, just having Trump being able to have a conversation, you know, some people are like, he's going to fix all this and he's going to end at day one.
But just having the ability to call them and say, listen, Let's talk about this.
Let's figure out how we get to a solution.
Or listen, here's what's going to happen.
Joe Biden doesn't even have the ability to pick up the phone and call them, let alone... He's strong.
tim pool
What does he talk to?
Well, here's the story.
Three Russian ships and a nuclear-powered submarine are expected to arrive in Cuba this week ahead of military exercise in the Caribbean.
While the exercises aren't considered a threat to the U.S., American ships have been deployed to shadow Russians, U.S.
officials told CBS News.
The Russian warships are expected to arrive in Havana on Wednesday and stay until next Monday, Cuba's foreign ministry said in a statement.
A U.S.
official told CBS News national security correspondent David Martin, the U.S.
intelligence community has assessed that the submarine in the group is nuclear-powered, but it isn't carrying nuclear weapons.
We have no indication and no expectation that nuclear weapons will be at play here in these exercises or embarked on those vessels.
I mean, you wouldn't really know, would you?
Like, they're not going to tell you they're doing it.
But I certainly think that when the American people start to see These kinds of things happening more because it ain't just here.
We got this in from the Daily Mail.
Putin's new threat on the gateway to the Mediterranean.
Russia announces joint Navy drills with Egypt near crucial Suez Canal trade route.
Instability is coming.
Now, I don't think most Americans care about the Suez.
But if these ships in any way cause any kind of problem, a lot of people are going to be asking why Russian warships are off the coast.
Now, the inverse may be true.
This may be a ploy to actually blame Russia for a major attack on the U.S.
as a casus belli for the U.S.
to directly intervene in Ukraine.
phil labonte
I mean, the U.S.
is... The idea of the U.S.
directly intervening in Ukraine is horrifying.
tim pool
And if a Russian ship fires on an American vessel, and then the U.S.
says, Russia has declared war on us, we have to stop them now before it's too late.
We're deploying troops.
We've already got troops in Poland.
Ready to go.
phil labonte
We've been saying for two years, where's the off-ramp?
Two years now, where's the off-ramp?
How do we stop the escalations?
And there has been zero Zero pullback.
It's all been escalation for two years.
It's not getting any better.
If this doesn't stop, if we don't get the off-ramp, if we don't have a legitimate way for the U.S.
to stop funding Ukraine and stop having American military weaponry being fired into Russia, we are going to end up in a conflict with Russia.
hannah claire brimelow
That's why I think about Joe Biden's comments in Normandy over the weekend were so... They are something you need to take note of.
The fact that he was like, well, we never abandoned an ally.
You know, in this case, he's talking about two different skirmishes happening on geopolitical fronts.
Joe Biden is not prepared to end anything, no matter what any international governing body decides, no matter what the people in America want.
He is signaling that he is going to continue to fund conflict abroad.
And I don't think that that is actually a well thought out policy.
cliff maloney
I'm not worried about some major strike.
I'm worried about what you said, which is a slip up, right?
When you start to put yourself in a position where something happens or some mistake, and I'm not even saying that it would be intentional, but we could easily spin it that way.
And I just think, you know, this is a nuclear world we live in.
And when you put yourself in a dangerous position or when you allow things to happen because there's no plan, there is no off-ramp.
There never was.
I mean, even from the right, these people that are supporting this money to Ukraine, it's like even they can't tell you what the solution is going to be or how we get there.
Even if Trump gets in, right, they're not really putting that out there.
And I just think we're putting ourselves in a position where bad things can happen.
They can happen quickly.
And what are we going to do if all of a sudden something happens and we're like, oh, Russia's to blame.
That's the narrative.
Now we're in nuclear war?
That's horrible.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I don't think we go to nuclear war right away, but this could be exactly what the deep state, the military machine is looking for.
Russian ships come our way.
We say, nah, everything's fine.
And then, and then, I don't know, Gulf of Tonkin.
You don't need much.
The U.S.
can literally just say, oh, we're under fire.
And then Joe Biden comes out, mumbles something.
And then next thing we know, U.S.
troops are in Ukraine, pushing into the border of Russia, U.S.
weapons firing into Russia.
And then Russia actually sends some ships.
And then I think Hawaii is a major point of risk.
Alaska as well, because China has already sent, you know, strike groups off the coast of Hawaii and Alaska.
phil labonte
Yeah.
I mean, there's military bases on all of the Hawaiian Islands, to some degree.
Some are larger and some are smaller.
tim pool
That's what it is.
It's our Pacific military bases.
unidentified
100%.
Yeah.
phil labonte
Oh, absolutely.
I mean, and the thing is, people talk about it being bad that the U.S.
is doing that and blah, blah, blah.
If the U.S.
didn't do that, if the U.S.
didn't have the military bases there, It wouldn't be U.S.
territory, and it wouldn't go back to the Hawaiians either.
Those islands will never be the Hawaiian, like the property of just the Hawaiian people.
The Chinese will come in, the Russians will come in, some other big power's gonna look for that little spot in the center of the biggest ocean on the Earth, because that is extremely valuable.
tim pool
For that matter, could you imagine a national divorce scenario?
What would happen to Hawaii?
phil labonte
I mean, yeah, definitely, it would definitely not be The restoration of... Who was it?
tim pool
King Kamehameha was the... Yeah, the restoration of the Kamehameha bloodline.
cliff maloney
I would not recommend being in Hawaii during the National Divorce.
tim pool
Or Alaska.
If you're up in, like the natives in Alaska, they're doing their thing.
phil labonte
I think the rest, we talk about national divorce and I say this all the time, I think what the rest of the world will do should there be a national divorce or some kind of civil conflict in the U.S.
that would stem from an attempt at a national divorce, it's totally unpredictable.
And I think it's almost a guarantee that it's chaos.
cliff maloney
Agreed.
phil labonte
How it goes, whether it be like, whether it be India and Pakistan say, OK, well, if the U.S.
is out of here, we're going to just start shooting nukes at each other and that's it.
So it could be something like that, like something we don't even think of.
Two small countries that have beef now that have backing by two larger countries.
We have no way.
It is the possibilities for everything to go terribly wrong are almost infinite.
hannah claire brimelow
Do you think the average person in the rest of the world thinks that America would potentially split up?
Or do you think it's it seems impossible to them?
phil labonte
I think to the average person, it probably seems impossible to them.
But then again...
cliff maloney
I think they look at Joe Biden and they're probably just as confused just looking at him and they can't even think past that.
unidentified
Right.
hannah claire brimelow
Our media is always talking about how divided we are.
What translates to another country?
I just wonder what the impression is.
phil labonte
I think that other countries... I want to say no, because I think that people look at the U.S.
and think of the U.S.
as kind of a special country.
Whether they look at it as a good thing or a bad thing, they think that it is unique.
And whereas I'm not so sure.
Well I guess I think that people from other countries that have or other places that have seen that kind of strife are probably more along the lines of well why wouldn't it you know we've seen crazy things we've seen you know our country or neighboring countries there's been conflicts and etc etc those those kind of things are normal in global history so I imagine there's a significant portion of the world population that would be
like, well, why wouldn't it?
It's ridiculous to think that it wouldn't because that's what happens, because honestly
that is what happens historically.
hannah claire brimelow
Right.
I go back and forth because again, I think the media does a pretty good job of saying
America's in conflict and chaos and different world leaders and this, that and the other.
On the other hand, if you told me that Australia had split up, I would be like, what?
No way.
You know, there's a certain level of like, you just expect certain large countries to
stay as they are forever.
But we know that borders shift and political powers change maps all the time.
tim pool
My fear is that in the event of a national divorce, Canada will conquer us.
phil labonte
It wouldn't actually be Canada.
cliff maloney
I'm not worrying about that.
phil labonte
It would be China via Canada.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, they'd send another balloon over and we'd take seven days to be like, what?
cliff maloney
It was above my house for three hours, that balloon.
tim pool
China would immediately contact West Coast states, offer them aid and assistance in any kind of conflict, which they would gladly accept.
When Xi Jinping showed up in California, oh, they could not roll out the red carpet fast enough.
cliff maloney
Clean the streets.
tim pool
Oh, they cleaned everything up.
So if conflict really did happen, China would be like, of course we'll support you.
And then California, Oregon, Washington become vassal states of China.
Alaska likely as well.
I mean, Russia can easily take back Alaska.
And I'm talking about a national divorce scenario where federal forces, national military are split, weakened.
That instantly becomes World War III, as Phil was saying.
So uh you know just hope everybody is uh lots of chickens.
hannah claire brimelow
I think that energy is going into this election.
You guys probably think this too but you know I feel like so many people outside of America but especially Americans are like we are on the brink of something crazy and it feels maybe more tense than other years.
I don't know how you feel about it because you're kind of on the ground with with all this stuff.
cliff maloney
Yeah, I just think that you hear the it's the most important election of our lifetime every time.
phil labonte
It always is.
cliff maloney
I do believe that this is going to be like the election that I just think It'll be such a signal of where we're going to go.
And I think even for those that aren't super pro-Trump, you just can't be in support of the current regime.
You have to want to protest against it.
You have to want to push back.
And I just think this trial, once again, when he goes to jail, if and when he goes to prison, I think that is going to be, once again, the next moment that we will all remember.
And I think it's going to help him.
tim pool
We've had so many of those moments.
The conviction.
History being made.
The indictment.
The mugshot.
You're living through history, ladies and gentlemen.
And it's pretty wild.
Growing up, it's mostly ancillary history.
You know, when you're reading about these major historical moments, they skip over a whole lot, you know?
It'll be like, this thing happened, and then this thing happened, and it's like, yeah, those were three years apart.
People lived those three years.
They were chillin'.
The American Revolution took place over 20 years.
So there was a kid who was born two years into the revolution who fought in the revolution.
You know, that's pretty wild.
So we live most of our lives like, you know, Desert Storm in the 90s, and you know, for people who are younger than that, they weren't alive.
9-11 is a huge major historical moment.
And so there are some spikes.
But these past couple of years have been major tumult, where we're getting historical moment after historical moment.
When we write about the history, when we read about the history, in a general history book of like, you know, late 20th century, 21st century United States, you'll get Very little out of the 90s.
I mean, there's some pics of the 90s.
You know, I mean, Bill Clinton scandal or whatever.
And Kosovo, Desert Storm, etc.
But then, 9-11's a major.
So when you're reading, like, here's the 90s, it's going to skip over several years and hit 9-11.
Then it's going to skip over several years and, like, you know, President Obama's elected.
These past seven, eight years, it's going to be just, like, 12 pages per year where everything else is a paragraph.
Especially this year.
Especially this November.
There's gonna be 12 pages based on just the week of the election in general.
Because I don't think people realize, you know, they were talking about in 2020, like right-wing groups showing up with guns at various polling stations to watch and things like this.
None of that happened.
None of that happened.
I'm pretty concerned about what the right and the left will do.
This election.
Because, especially with the narrative around ballot stuffing and things like this, you're gonna have, like, every ballot box everywhere is gonna have two or three dudes standing there watching everybody.
Filming everything.
cliff maloney
We are not going to know who won the election, I guarantee you, until at least five to six days after.
phil labonte
It's absurd.
tim pool
We are never going to know who won the election.
cliff maloney
Yes, but I'm telling you, like, the idea that these things are won, and this is something that I don't agree with, right, but it is the current rules we have, you have to know that these are going to go to the courts.
for so many of these different rule changes, and they're going to be fought again.
And I just think the people need to be prepared for that.
We will not know on the night of the election.
We'd love to know.
But I just think I do think it will take at least four or five, maybe even a week to actually have them declare a winner.
phil labonte
India just had an election and they have a billion and change people and they knew the answer in like 17 hours.
unidentified
Which makes me think, you know, maybe it's everybody else who's acting up.
phil labonte
You mean outside of the U.S.?
tim pool
I mean, just like the idea that a billion people, and they're like, got it, we're good, don't worry about it.
phil labonte
There's a billion people, you can get a bunch of people counting, too.
tim pool
Yeah, and to be fair, the general idea is, you have a county of a thousand people, and there's ten people watching the ballot.
They all come in, and then that one county just says, okay, it's 400 here and 200 here, because not everybody votes.
Submit that and it goes up the chain and then you easily get your results by the end of the day because it's decentralized.
Massive computing power.
In the United States, for whatever reason, the computers can't pull it off.
phil labonte
It's because they don't want to.
It's literally because the government doesn't want to.
cliff maloney
Yeah, but what happens is they batch it.
So look, I've kind of gotten wonky just going through the PA primary.
It was in April, right?
We got a little bit of an example of this.
So in Pennsylvania, there's 50 days of mail-in ballots, right?
50 days, which to me is nuts.
I grew up, there was one election day, right?
But the problem is when they change the rules in a lot of these states, They don't say your ballot has to be in a week beforehand and then they can count them and then on election night you just have the total and you match that to the election day votes and then you announce it.
And so what happens is they batch them in different groups.
They're like, hey listen, these came in but they didn't have a date on them.
These came in because they're in an envelope, right?
They have to be sealed, signed.
And these are millions of ballots now.
We're not talking about, you know, absentee ballots or military ballots.
So when you have a huge batch of these ballots that have no date, then this batch has no year.
And then this batch, you know, this is no month, no year.
This isn't signed.
This wasn't signed by a witness.
So what happens is not that they're counting them and then not reporting it.
They hold them.
And this is why Republicans go nuts, as they should, and then they wait to see what they need, and then if they want, Democrats are ready to go to war.
They are ready to take it to court.
So they push all of them to be counted because they win so heavily on the mail-in ballots.
And so the courts just, they don't want to disenfranchise voters, so they do it.
And so that's why you get these situations where they're not reporting out.
And Republicans, and I'm guilty of this, you know, after 2020, we said, well, we don't want to do the mail-in stuff because there could be fraud.
After 21, we said, let's do it in the courts and fix it.
22, they said, let's do it through legislation.
And 23, they looked in the mirror and said, holy cow, we got a problem.
And so now, I mean, that's like what I'm doing is in Pennsylvania chasing these ballots.
We're hiring 120 full-time ballot chasers.
But I need to tell people you are still going to have the law in this country, the judicial system, is going to have to make all these decisions and we got to be prepared for it.
I worry about the violence, not just with the election.
I worry about when he goes to jail.
You know, you get some of these Trump supporters that want to show up and they want to make a statement and I'm calling for peace.
But I do think it is about to hit some sort of tipping point.
hannah claire brimelow
How did you get involved with all of this?
Sorry.
tim pool
Just based on what Biden has apparently just said, I think we can expect something serious.
Take a listen to this.
joe biden
She know so long as I sleep at night, our freedom can never be secured.
tim pool
Let's hear that again.
joe biden
She know so long as I sleep at night, our freedom can never be secured.
tim pool
Sick.
So like, I feel like we can pull up one of these every single night.
I just saw this from Nick Sorter just now.
She know long, she sluggish, our freedom can never be secured.
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
Why does that feel like he's telling us, you know, I can take your freedom away at any point at any point whenever I feel like it?
Like, your freedom's not secured.
This is very dark, Joe Biden.
cliff maloney
I just don't think they can keep him out there.
I mean, it's such a liability for him to do any live event.
When's the last time he did a press gaggle?
tim pool
This debate is going to be epic.
Think about that.
phil labonte
When is the last time he did a gaggle?
hannah claire brimelow
He just did, like, he was walking past reporters and, like, talked to them.
phil labonte
No, like a legit gaggle.
hannah claire brimelow
He hasn't done one in, like, the White House press room in forever.
I can't even remember the last time.
cliff maloney
It's been years.
tim pool
The debate.
Trump's going to say something like, look, you know, when I'm elected, we're going to secure the border.
Day one, we're going to start deportations at the local level.
The police are going to come in.
They do a tremendous job.
We've got to give our police some support.
But on the border, I'm going to instruct CBP.
We're going to start turning people away.
And then they're going to say, President Biden, how will you handle it?
unidentified
He's going to go kill someone, you know?
tim pool
Trump and the rapists.
And then the media is going to report, in a cutting response, Joe Biden slammed Trump's claim that Mexicans were rapists and called for humanity.
Because what the media does is they translate the gibberish into what they want him to have said.
Or they got the transcript from the deep state saying, here's what we wrote for him.
He didn't say it, but you know, and then you look at the White House transcript and they scribble out, like, they just change it.
hannah claire brimelow
Instead of being like, this guy just slurred on his word, they'll say inaudible.
But they act like, oh, it's a mic issue.
There was wind.
Inaudible.
I mean, it was inaudible.
You're not totally wrong there.
tim pool
I'd go with indecipherable.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
tim pool
Or perhaps incoherent.
hannah claire brimelow
It's crazy.
unidentified
Yes.
hannah claire brimelow
So how did you get involved with what you're doing?
Are you inspired by Joe Biden's words, I assume?
cliff maloney
Not quite.
Ron Paul actually, back in the day, kind of woke me up a little bit as a math teacher.
I said, you know what?
This guy in the Fed, he's got something he's talking about.
But I worked for Rand, and then after the 2016 race, jumped over to Trump and decided I wanted to start door-knocking because I felt like that was the only place we could compete when it comes to money.
And pretty much from 2016 through 2022, just been trying to elect America-first, libertarian-type Republicans at the state level by using these door-knocking programs.
All that changed in 22.
Because in Pennsylvania, I mean, we were having races where we'd have trouble because of this Fetterman-Naz thing, down ticket, because nobody was focused on the mail-in ballots.
They hired zero ballot chasers in Pennsylvania.
Democrats hire about 100 every cycle.
And so we just said, enough's enough.
Charlie Kirk, some people from Trump's team came to me and said, look, PA's your home state.
You've already got a group there, Citizens Alliance of Pennsylvania.
They said, can you take the ballot chase effort and just run it for the state?
Bring all your door knockers into Pennsylvania, deploy there, knock 500,000 doors, target the Republicans who have requested.
And that's the path.
I mean, that's the biggest problem.
He's got to win PA to win the White House.
I believe that.
I think the Senate race can be flipped.
And to me, I mean, The one thing we need to do is be able to compete with them at what they do, which is knock on those doors and chase the ballots.
hannah claire brimelow
So how do you guys recruit door knockers?
cliff maloney
So we have people right now on the ground for a lot of Freedom Caucus types.
You know, they're out there knocking.
And so, you know, we have different projects at different times.
So we'll bring a lot of them in.
But phhase.com, people can apply.
We've already had over 400 people apply.
And it's not a fun job, right?
I'm not like, I don't try to do the rainbow story about it.
It's horrible.
People are slamming their door in your face.
But Democrats, they don't care.
They just hire these people and you push through it, right?
Because it's difficult.
But it is one of the worst gigs in the world.
We put them up in housing, we give them gas cards.
These are patriots that want to do—they have to be ideologically aligned.
If you're not ideologically aligned, no one would want to do this, right?
Now, the Democrats pay a little better, so they can get some folks to just get out there.
But that's the point, is you've got to feel like you're part of it, and you've got to push, you know, to really want to be part of it.
But yeah, 500,000 doors, and it's September 1 through Election Day.
So about a little over 60 days, 50 days of the election in Pennsylvania.
So it's absolutely insane.
hannah claire brimelow
Do you think that conservative people are likely to volunteer for these things or do they think default, oh, the only way to support politicians I want to see elected is with my dollars?
cliff maloney
No, I think you'd be surprised how many people, I mean the conviction even itself, look, people look at the fundraising, you should see the interest we're getting.
You know, people are like, look, we want to get out there.
A lot of people, they say, where do you find these guys at, right?
And it's like guys and girls are either taking a gap year from college or they just graduated or they're working a job that's, you know, not meaningful to them and all of a sudden it's like, wait, I can go flip Pennsylvania, you know, and try to win this thing?
So it's interesting to find the motivations, but to me, the ideological folks, that has to be the part of it.
But I think, you know, I got to go out there and raise $3 million to pull this off, right?
And we're doing it.
We've raised over a million and a half.
But I do think it's about the party not adapting, the party not wanting to figure out what they need to do.
And I think it's malfeasance.
How do you not hire a ballot chaser when that's the number one reason you lost the last four years of election?
phil labonte
Have you received pushback?
Or have you received significant help from the GOP?
cliff maloney
So, yes, under Laura Trump it's been much better.
I will say that.
Trump himself, in the last two months, you know, has been coming out, we're supporting the chase, you know, we're supporting all these ballot efforts in these certain states.
That's a big deal.
phil labonte
Yeah.
cliff maloney
Because when I got into this, you know, and I said this to the guys at Turning Point, I said, look, if we're going to do this, I said, I can't have us do all this work, and then Trump's like, do not vote by mail.
He's been great.
He's embraced it.
This is why I have hope.
In Pennsylvania, we lost by 80,000 votes.
There's roughly a million Republicans that did not vote in 2020.
But even more than that, we lost by 80,000 votes.
In PA, 140,000 Republicans requested a ballot and let it sit on their dining room table.
So it's really like, I don't want to say this is the thing, but the solution is there.
Go bang on their door.
And when Bob answers the door, you say, Bob, did you send in your ballot yet?
Oh, no, I'll get to that.
Every 24 hours we get the data of who's voted.
This is why the Democrats are ahead.
So you go back in a week.
Bob, your ballot's not in yet.
How do I get you guys to stop coming?
Go back in a week.
Send your dang ballot in.
So the Democrats have mastered this idea.
phil labonte
Bring a pen with you.
Bob, here, I got a pen for you.
cliff maloney
They have mastered this idea of annoying the voter.
And I hate to say it, but it works, right?
You've got to fight fire with fire.
We can't just make the excuse of, oh, we want to vote on election day.
Of course we want to vote on election day.
Those aren't the rules.
phil labonte
We have to adapt.
Don't the ballots come postage paid?
Do you have to put a stamp on it?
cliff maloney
I'm pretty sure they're prepaid.
tim pool
And one of the big reasons we saw a lot of ballots that were only Biden Well, and here's the thing that I think is fascinating.
cliff maloney
We care about our ballot.
I would say some of us would give up blood to get in the way of the ability, that civic right to vote.
Democrats aren't made that way.
I hate to say this, right?
But a lot of them, it's like, all right, listen, what do I do to get you to stop annoying me?
Send the ballot in.
You know, here's the balance.
They would trade so much.
It's like a weird cultural thing.
The last note on this, when you have 1.5 million people that have voted for Joe Biden in 2020 in PA by mail before the last seven day window, talk about the resources you're spending.
Now all of a sudden you're only targeting another million voters, where the GOP is still targeting 2.5 to 3 million.
So you're spending twice as much on mail, twice as much on digital ads to target folks.
And so the whole cultural thing, whether it was intentional by the Democrats or not, I think it was, but they realized that they could make these rule changes and the culture within their own party would benefit from it.
That has to stop this cycle.
hannah claire brimelow
Do you think—so when you're talking about people have to have the ideological fire, basically, to chase something, this is one of the things that I've always think the Democrats sort of have cultivated their own natural advantage.
They tend to be controlling of academic institutions, so they get the, you know, new voters, the 18-year-olds, but they also have the college-age students, they have the grad students, you know, who get summers off and things like that to sort of be on the camp—or on the trail with this ballot-harvesting effort.
I wonder if One of the interesting things, like I've heard Scott Pressler talk about he's setting up at like gun shows and being like, you guys are here, please let me register you to vote.
Do you find that you tend to get people from, you know, is all of your recruiting online or do you ever set up at like college campuses or gun shows or whatever the equivalent is.
cliff maloney
Yeah, so Scott is a patriot and he's, like, literally moved to Pennsylvania.
God bless him for doing that because we need him on the ground.
He does the real work.
We're partnering with him with early vote action, partnering with Turning Point and our group, Citizens Alliance.
And there's different stages, right?
Right now you have to request a ballot.
So he's out there registering voters, requesting for those low propensities.
And then our phase, phase two, is the chase, right?
Actually going to the door of the people that have requested it.
The point I'll make, though, because I get a lot of pushback from folks that say, well, Philadelphia and Pittsburgh are just going to cheat and they're going to do what they do.
There are Republican votes in Republican counties where Republican clerks count the votes.
They're at like 70, 75 percent turnout.
Just get those up to 90.
Pennsylvania and Pittsburgh are already maxed for the Democrats.
So for those that say, oh, 110 percent, that's not true.
That's not true.
phil labonte
That's a good point.
cliff maloney
What happens is they've maxed it.
They're already at their max capacity.
So there's all this room in the tomato soup.
You know, we got the two blueberries in our tomato soup here in PA.
There's so much room for us to just turn those out.
And who's counting the ballots?
Good guys!
So to me, it's like, when I got into this, if those numbers didn't line up, I'd have been like, you know, I really don't want to spend my time on this.
There is a path to victory that involves just targeting Republicans, not going into Pittsburgh and Philadelphia.
phil labonte
It's almost a guarantee.
Well, I mean, it's almost a guarantee that Joe Biden will not get the number of votes that he got last time.
Just because there aren't extra votes, first of all, and he's done a bad job.
So if there were other votes that they could round up, maybe, but because of the fact that, I think that's something we've neglected, or at least I've neglected to identify, is that because they do have such a good game of get out the vote, they maxed out.
There's not going to be a significantly larger amount of people that will vote for Joe Biden this one.
It's like, whatever he got last time, that's the top that he can get.
The very, very top.
And the high likelihood is that he's going to be at least a little lower, probably significantly lower, considering the performance.
And I do think that there is probably still the phenomena of, I don't want to admit that I'll vote for Trump.
hannah claire brimelow
The secret Trump voters?
phil labonte
I still think so, because there's a lot of people that are really, really not into, you know, telling people.
tim pool
The Israel thing really blew up in the Democrats' face.
cliff maloney
And the conviction, in Pennsylvania alone, after the conviction, just since then, Republicans are up nearly 4,000 net voters across PA.
Wow.
Just since the conviction.
phil labonte
I am 100% sure that January 6th is a bigger issue for people to get over, to say that they're going to pull the lever for Trump, than the indictments, than anything post-January 6th.
It's just, what happened on January 6th?
They're like, I don't like that.
tim pool
I think they forgot.
cliff maloney
Agreed.
tim pool
Most people are first-order thinkers.
And like I said, you're gonna get a guy who says, I fix water heaters.
Okay?
Appliances.
These are the people who make society function so that you can live in your house so that you don't die when it's too hot or your grandparents don't die when it's too hot or too cold.
And they're just thinking, look, I'm going to go there.
I'm going to go to work.
I'm going to do my job.
I'm going to help make sure that I'm being the backbone of this country.
And I'm going to come home and expect my groceries to be affordable.
And they're going to say, but January 6.
What?
January 6, Trump instruction.
Look, man, I can't afford gas.
I don't care.
That was years ago.
Give me gas.
hannah claire brimelow
I think that's true.
I think that's why the Biden campaign focuses so much on, you know, the past, right?
They don't want him to talk about the way the country is right now.
They need to be like, well, Trump did this bad thing one time a long time ago and whatever else to maintain, to basically deflect from everything that's going on right now.
I think It's so interesting to hear you say that, you know, Pennsylvania is up so far in terms of voters since the conviction, because I do think that in some ways that to me, obviously with the amount that the Trump campaign raised, was this big call to action.
It's sort of, how do you get, like you were saying before, Bob to turn in his vote?
Well, that seems like a very dramatic step for New York to take if you're a Pennsylvania voter and you, if you were sympathetic to Trump at all, you might say, well, I have to do something now.
I don't know if you feel like that with the conversation.
cliff maloney
I think everything, all the moments of history you're mentioning, I think everything has trended in the right direction for Trump, at least over the last six to eight months.
I just don't see anything that is like a Biden win.
And when the numbers are where they're at, and the trends are going in the direction they're going, I just, I don't, I don't really see like, I mean, it's really up to Trump to keep it clean, keep it tight, rock the debate.
And I just, I mean, if the election was held tomorrow, I think Trump wins in a pretty large fashion.
tim pool
Well, Virginia is a toss up now.
cliff maloney
If Virginia is in play, there's no way that Joe Biden could be president again.
tim pool
Unless for some reason Texas and Missouri go blue.
hannah claire brimelow
Are you concerned at all about the effect of RFK on the election?
cliff maloney
I am.
I am actually very concerned.
I think he helps Trump much more than people think with the right demographic.
I think there's a weird sect of certain voters, but not in states that matter.
I think the old school, right, let me talk about like, you know, my family, like pipefitters, steamsters outside of Philadelphia, lifelong Democrats, some have broken off, some haven't.
There's a population, I'd say, of 70 plus white women.
That I think will not go with Biden.
They can't do it.
He can't put a sandwich together.
And so what they're going to do is they're looking for an alternative.
Now, they've been brainwashed to hate Donald Trump, right?
But RFK provides an alternative.
His battle is going to be the same thing every third party or independent has.
You've got to be able to prove that you have a shot.
And they're doing everything they can, which of course they do, you know, to keep him out.
But if he can prove he has a shot, I think that he—let's say he gets 8% in a state like PA, or a state like Arizona or Wisconsin.
I just have to think that that split is—I just can't think that that split hurts Trump.
I just have to think it's going to be like 5-3, which is a two-point swing to help Trump.
tim pool
Most of the polls that include Kennedy show Trump way up.
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hannah claire brimelow
Good job, guys!
tim pool
We're gonna read your Super Chats, and then the members-only show is coming up at 10, you don't want to miss it.
Shane H. Wilder says, so Europe is starting to lean right.
phil labonte
You knew I was going to laugh at that.
unidentified
I guess.
tim pool
I don't know.
Europe is starting to lean.
I'm pretty sure that by saying it that fast, it's less effective.
hannah claire brimelow
Are you saying that means everything I say on this show is less effective because I speak so quickly?
tim pool
I speak fast.
hannah claire brimelow
This is good feedback for me.
tim pool
One like equals one Let's Go Brandon.
That does better than saying smash that like button.
And one Timcast membership is 100 Let's Go Brandons.
Let's see if that one works.
Timcast.com.
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Shane H. Wilder says, so Europe's starting to lean right and France disbanded parliament.
To me, this should be a good thing.
The earth is healing.
Correct.
Are there any downsides to this?
Are we upset about anything?
Anyone?
hannah claire brimelow
Not in this room.
Other rooms are upset about anything.
tim pool
Yeah, did you see the videos?
There are videos of French- Of women crying?
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
tim pool
Yes, they're doing the Trump thing.
cliff maloney
Oh gosh.
tim pool
There's like one where there's a woman on the ground and she's like staring at the floor.
There's a video where there's a bunch of French people in a room and you can hear the announcer announce that they've lost and they go, oh!
And then they pause for a second, oh!
It's just hilarious.
Someone needs to make a compilation video of all of the weird woke cultists panicking every time they lose.
It's gonna be like two hours long.
phil labonte
It was fun to watch.
tim pool
I mean, it was short, but it was— 2016, that was while they were crying at the Javits Center?
Mm-hmm.
phil labonte
The Ben Rhodes interview after Hillary lost was one of my favorite pieces of political content.
tim pool
Can you believe it's been almost 10 years?
cliff maloney
That's crazy.
tim pool
Eight years ago.
cliff maloney
My favorite memory after that, I was doing a lot of campus work back then, recruiting these doorknockers and the campuses that would host these like, sit in with us in peace and like they would have therapists they provided.
And that's when I was like, there's something going on in this country.
hannah claire brimelow
One of the fraternities at my school got in trouble because after the election they put, they like had a big Trump banner and they got told they had to take it down, but like the Multicultural Student Center was allowed to keep their like, well also, I don't remember what the slogan was at the time, but like we're all in this together thing up.
But there's no bias, you know, everyone's treated equally.
tim pool
Barrett1313 says, can confirm Tim does know how to play poker.
He's a luck box but can play.
Allison is not bad either.
Allison's nickname at the poker table is the manslayer.
That's true.
Yeah, because I guess guys think, you know, women, she's gonna call and play weak hands, and then she always has the best hand, you know, and so I'm like, as soon as I see her make a bet, I'm like, I'm folding, because she's gonna have aces or something.
And then she uses that to her advantage, she plays well.
And then she ends up winning tons of money from these men, they call it the manslayer.
But Luckbox, Good sir Barrett.
What you're basically admitting to is that I have successfully fooled you.
And I am better at poker than even you are willing to admit.
For those that don't know, luck box refers to a person who just gets lucky all the time and just always makes it.
And they've got a bad hand and then they just play it and then all of a sudden they hit it.
But depending on how you're playing, when you're playing poker, I'm not going to show when I'm bluffing unless I want them to know that I bluffed them to piss them off.
If I have a good hand and I don't hit, and I make a continuation bet and I win, I'll just throw the cards in the muck.
Nobody knows what I had.
Then when I have a bad hand that I play for odds, and I get lucky, I make sure to flip it over and show everybody, because they're like, this guy keeps getting lucky!
Then, when I have a bad hand, or my hand doesn't make it, I can make a big bet and they go, he's getting lucky again!
They throw their hands away.
So, that's the name of the game, brother.
Kyle says, my favorite congressman, Thomas Massey, is now following me on Twix.
I'm very excited about it.
What did y'all think of his interview with Tucker?
I only saw bits, but very impressive.
phil labonte
I saw the whole thing, and there's nothing that I strongly disagree with.
Like, all of his criticism of AIPAC and stuff is cool.
Like, all of his criticism of Israel's fine.
Like, all that stuff I agree with.
I don't think we should be giving them money.
All of his criticism of the deep state here.
That was the most important stuff, I thought, personally.
The criticism of the U.S.
government.
And then all the stuff about the Tesla and his house and stuff.
I thought all that stuff was just cool as hell.
cliff maloney
I think he's one of the most underrated in terms of people not knowing his story.
You know, when you watch the off-the-grid Matt Kibbe documentary, and just when you really dig in, he's a very unique guy.
You know, being an MIT grad, his wife, by the way, she's the brains.
Rhonda is the brains of the family.
hannah claire brimelow
Okay, his marriage is the most mind-blowing part to me.
They're high school sweethearts who both got into MIT, which what are the statistics there?
In Kentucky.
I don't know where I would be without our DoorDash guy.
I delivered pizza.
I've done that.
I know.
But at the same time, I'm not calling people out.
I would put it this way.
What a cool life, man.
phil labonte
And then people that deliver pizza call him dumb.
hannah claire brimelow
Incorrect.
unidentified
I just mean, like, again, what are the odds that...
tim pool
Nothing wrong with delivery companies.
phil labonte
There's nothing wrong with it.
hannah claire brimelow
I just don't understand.
unidentified
I don't know where I would be without our DoorDash guy.
phil labonte
I delivered pizza, I've done that, I know, but at the same time, I'm not calling people
tim pool
dumb.
I would put it this way.
People who deliver pizza are the backbone of this country, and these gender studies
liberal arts grads call him dumb.
phil labonte
Fair enough.
tim pool
We can insult them, that's fine.
cliff maloney
The best part, to me, the best part of the entire interview was when he tells the stories of, like, the AIPAC guy.
He's like, oh yeah, you got a guy.
You got a guy assigned to you.
And, like, when he tells the stories to Tucker about, like, how the inner workings are, I just, I think they're, the more with alternative media and the ability to tell their stories, I just think so much of Congress is a protected class.
I mean, even how they have the cameras.
You guys remember when there was no speaker and like they changed the whole camera setup and like they gave them freedom.
And now, now we're back to the staged downward angle because there's nobody in the chamber and they give their fierce speeches and we're going to send the Democrats and then they say the Republican and then they all go to lunch.
tim pool
Yep.
cliff maloney
Right?
And I just think when Massey tells those stories, it kind of humanizes it a little bit so we get to peek behind the curtain.
tim pool
Let's go read some more.
All right.
What have we?
Robert G. Smith says, Howdy, people.
Howdy.
Stephen Says says, Le Pen is to France what Trump is to the U.S.
All I can say to them electing her is Viva la France and make France great again.
Mifga.
There you go.
hannah claire brimelow
Doesn't roll off the tongue.
tim pool
But she hasn't been elected.
It's a European Parliament one, so we're waiting for the French parliamentary elections that are going to be on the 30th, and very well Marine Le Pen's party may win, and we'll see what that means for her.
What have we here?
Jennifer Benge says, our local skate park, airborne skate park and shop in Corbin, Kentucky is facing imminent closure because they can't recoup operation costs.
I hope this super chat will bring in more Kentucky skaters to help.
P.S.
get well soon, Phil.
Are you well already?
phil labonte
I don't know that I'm well, but I'm getting there.
Thank you very much.
I appreciate it.
tim pool
Right on.
hannah claire brimelow
Do skate parks charge admittance fees?
I'm sorry, I'm so ignorant of the culture.
tim pool
There are private parks where you pay per session.
So they do like a morning session.
I don't know the modern prices, but it used to be like 20 bucks to go skate for... 500 under pod inflation?
Yeah, 500.
It's like four hours for the morning session, and then the afternoon session, or you can buy an all-day pass for slightly cheaper.
Airborne skate park and shop, huh?
Let me Google that.
phil labonte
Reminds me of, like, skiing.
hannah claire brimelow
That's the only... We're so New England right now, we're like, is this like skiing?
phil labonte
Did you ever go to Mount Tom?
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I did!
phil labonte
The alpine slide?
Oh yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
Phil and I are from New England.
Hopefully there's a huge New England contingent watching TimCast right now.
phil labonte
Any of your friends get injured on the alpine slide?
hannah claire brimelow
Not that I can remember.
phil labonte
I had to get stitches.
hannah claire brimelow
You did?
phil labonte
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
That's funny.
phil labonte
The brakes?
tim pool
Maybe we can sponsor Airborne.
hannah claire brimelow
Did you grow up skating?
cliff maloney
My one thing I have to admit, especially with Tim here, my dad actually at 56 years old, he can drop into a half pipe still.
It's pretty crazy.
Yeah, he's, uh, it's, I don't know if I should be proud of that or embarrassed, but it's pretty awesome.
phil labonte
I'm a little afraid to admit this, but I watch every skate here.
I'm like, man, I really want to try jumping into a, like a little one, but I'm afraid I'm gonna break my neck.
hannah claire brimelow
Me too.
phil labonte
Cause I'm old.
tim pool
We had an amazing session today with Special Mike.
He landed a front, it was wild, on the quarter pipe into bank, frontside 360 nose whip.
It's just, the board spins 540 degrees while the body spins 360, and then you land going backwards.
It was wild.
cliff maloney
Is that the clip you showed me?
Or was that?
tim pool
Did he show you that?
hannah claire brimelow
No, that was actually one of the guys doing construction.
tim pool
Really good.
Nollie backside 360 blunt over the spine.
Then he does Axel fakie and then fakie bigspin blunt over the spine.
Then a backside boneless to tail.
Really good run.
He's super good.
He took his shoes off and skated barefoot on the carpet board.
unidentified
Saw that.
tim pool
That's where the board has carpet glued to the top of it.
And he was shredding!
So we're gonna film with him.
His name's Corey.
He was really good.
Polly Pure says, where is Ian?
He's here.
He'll be on tomorrow.
He's back for only a few days, so I think he might be on this week a couple times?
And then maybe he'll pitch his coffee.
I gotta talk to him and Alex about their contest, because we set up the contest for him.
We haven't yet started it, but if you go to casper.com and you buy Ian's Graphene Dream, and anything else, and use the code VOTEIAN, you get the other one half off.
And then if you buy Alex Stein's Primetime Grind, and any other product, it's buy one get one half off.
And that's VOTEALEX and VOTEIAN are the promo codes.
And then we're going to pit them against each other in an epic battle of, you know, I don't know, whatever.
hannah claire brimelow
So Alex said the money that he gets from his coffee is going to a cat sanctuary.
A cat charity.
I think in Dallas.
tim pool
We think we know which one we're doing.
The one that he recommended.
hannah claire brimelow
Is Ian going to donate to like a dog sanctuary?
I don't know.
unidentified
It's up to Ian.
tim pool
I don't know what Ian is.
Maybe like graphene researcher.
Ian promises to buy stock in a company that produces graphene with all of his proceeds.
hannah claire brimelow
It's less charitable.
He's just buying stock.
tim pool
But you'd expect him to do it, so.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, sure.
I like the idea of being on brand and character.
tim pool
I mean, we'll see.
I think someone super chatted about the coffee.
Where are we at?
What do we have?
Greg Duvier says, Tim, I've never voted in a primary election before.
That ends tomorrow in North Dakota.
I will be voting for Dr. Rick Becker.
He's up against three rhinos and has been endorsed by Ron and Rand Paul, Vivek, Massey, and Gates.
unidentified
Woo!
cliff maloney
Alright, hold on.
unidentified
Hold on.
cliff maloney
Who sent that in?
tim pool
Greg Duvier.
cliff maloney
That's somebody giving me a softball.
It's got to be.
Greg Duvier?
I'm running Rick Becker's campaign.
This guy's being nice.
That's my big shout out to Rick.
He's in North Dakota.
If he wins that seat, he holds it for 20 years.
He's the next Rand Paul, Ron Paul guy.
Great, great patriot.
Started the Frederick Bastiat Caucus when he was in the statehouse.
So he's a little bit of a nerd.
But really, really good dude.
And the establishment just spent about $2 million in the last two weeks trying to take him out.
That's the game.
By the way, anybody out there who thinks, oh, I want to be a freedom fighter and I want to run for Congress, that's the number.
If you don't have $2 million you can put in or you have a closed network, do not run for Congress.
I'd love for you to run for state house.
That's where you can win.
tim pool
What does that investment get you?
Like insider trading information that you can legally exploit?
cliff maloney
I'm sure once you get there.
No, but the truth is, listen, when you go to run, the establishment, if you're really running a campaign as an anti-establishment candidate, they have money.
Typically, their playbook is they'll put $2 million against you in the final week to two weeks of the campaign, and you just can't compete.
You know, everybody's worried about making dinner for their kids, right?
These aren't like deep thinkers.
I'm not calling the voters out.
But when they spend $2 million in broadcast television and there's 10 mailers a day for 14 days in a row calling you a monster, it's tough to combat.
tim pool
Really?
So let me clear this up.
If you run for Congress, they will spend $2 million calling you a monster.
cliff maloney
Correct.
tim pool
They will basically run commercials with your face on it to the tune of $2 million.
cliff maloney
Frankenstein level.
tim pool
Ain't no such thing as bad press.
So if someone were to run for Congress simply to just get their name out there, they're going to get a free $2 million ad buy with their name on it.
cliff maloney
If they're competitive, yes.
They will come after them with everything they have.
phil labonte
No wonder people go into politics.
cliff maloney
I don't recommend it.
tim pool
I wouldn't.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, you look at Congress, a lot of people in Congress, like, go into Congress and they'll be in there for a little while to build themselves a name and then they'll go ahead and get out and get some kind of cushy job.
Politics or government is oftentimes a road to other employment.
tim pool
Tazewell says, has Cliff ever been told he's a Shane Gillis doppelganger?
cliff maloney
Oh my gosh.
I get this question probably three or four times a day, and for those that know Shane, he's from Pennsylvania.
tim pool
Are you older than him?
cliff maloney
I think he's two years- I'm 33, I think he's 35.
tim pool
Ah, so you look like him.
cliff maloney
Yeah.
tim pool
Because he's older.
cliff maloney
Yeah.
tim pool
I said that the joke was when you ask your mom for Shane Gillis and she says, we have Shane Gillis at home.
cliff maloney
Shane Gillis light.
He's a big butt light guy.
tim pool
That was a funny meme someone posted about Chris Carr, who writes for Scanner and he comes on the show.
hannah claire brimelow
Executive editor, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, they said it was a meme where I was like, Mom, I want Jack Pasovic.
And like, we have Jack Pasovic at home and it's Chris Carr.
cliff maloney
What do you guys think?
Do I look like Shane Gillis for real?
I'm sure people will say yes.
unidentified
Are you great value Shane Gillis?
phil labonte
Tell me about grilled cheeses.
cliff maloney
Yeah, I'm making them at night.
You better believe it.
phil labonte
All right!
tim pool
Uh, let's see, Cochizzle says, Hey yo, much love all, the district sleeps alone tonight.
And I'm reading that because for some reason I was just playing it the other day, that song.
We were playing it as we were skating.
So, whoever... It's a good song.
By, uh, Post Service.
It's an oldie.
Jonah Watkins says, Graphene Dream came in today, solid 8 out of 10.
And I didn't even ish my pants after drinking it, making it a 10 out of 10.
Good stuff.
Well, that's Ian's Blend, his low-acidity coffee, designed to work with your gut.
unidentified
Not horse and exodus.
tim pool
I don't know.
Yeah.
Ian was, we were talking about what do you want?
You know, with Alex, I think we told him we were doing double caffeine.
We just asserted to him, we're going to make a double caffeine coffee for you, Alex.
phil labonte
Fairly obvious.
tim pool
Not that he needs it, but it represents his brand.
And then Ian was like, yeah, low acid.
And some other weird hippie stuff where he's like probably eating lentils or something.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
Dude, it's like the only thing he eats.
phil labonte
Really?
tim pool
It's like every night he's making lentils.
I don't know.
phil labonte
I mean, they're good, man.
I'm not complaining.
I'm not criticizing lentils.
tim pool
Yeah, you do it right, and he's good at it.
I don't know what he puts in it, but he makes some good lentils.
I think when you make it 80 times a year or a month, breakfast, lunch, and dinner, then, you know.
phil labonte
You can perfect it really well.
Yeah.
tim pool
Lumber Numbers says, I take modafinil for narcolepsy.
Miracle drug.
I had no energy or will to live before I started taking it about 15 years ago.
That's what I've heard.
People go to sleep.
And their brain doesn't enter REM sleep or anything, so they're not really getting the deep sleep or whatever you get.
And then they wake up feeling like they didn't sleep at all.
And so they give you a modafinil, and then you can go to sleep, but then you're getting the sleep, I guess.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, because REM is the restorative sleep.
You need it for your body's, like, correct function.
That was crazy.
I think that's one of the things we actually don't talk enough about as a culture, the effect of sleep and how important it is for your overall health.
tim pool
You know what, I wonder if they make sleep chambers, like sensory deprivation chambers, but not really, where it's like, I saw this ad for like an airport thing, where you lay down inside of it, you've seen those, and you pull the thing down, and I'm like, I wonder if they've got something you just buy at your house, but it's better than that?
And then, but what it needs is, it needs to have a sunlamp slowly start sunrising at the right time for you.
Because the, uh, I always, I lose it when, like, I go to a friend's house and there are blackout curtains or whatever.
Like, I get it if you work night shift and you're trying to sleep, that's fine.
Get a sunlamp.
Because when the sun starts rising and the light comes in while you're asleep, it starts affecting your hormone levels as you're waking up.
And I know too many people who wear blindfolds and black out their windows and they don't understand why they can't get good sleep and they're tired all the time.
And I'm like, okay, well, look, always talk to your doctor, but I'm telling you.
It's because if I'm in a hotel with blackout windows, I'll sleep forever.
I don't wake up.
The sun is up, I'm up.
cliff maloney
Yep, me too.
tim pool
And a lot of people screw up their hormone cycles, and I'm not talking like testosterone or whatever, I'm talking like your general body hormones when you're hungry, when you're not hungry, when you're tired, because the light's not coming in.
That's why people in Alaska have blackout curtains.
Because there's, like, summer is all day.
And then you have sunlamps, because... And this is why people in Seattle get seasonal affective disorder, because it's always cloudy.
You need light.
You need sunlight.
You need blue light.
And you don't want the blue light at night, but you want it in the morning.
You know, when you wake up.
But I would love to get, like, a chamber you can sleep in.
And then, at the right time, the sun... The lights start turning on me, like LED strips.
Then you wake up, you open it up, and then...
cliff maloney
Your comment about society, not talking about it.
I got invited to this really cool event that Peter Thiel put on where they just like, it's kind of like a guided conversation, but they allow you to pick certain topics.
And I was like fascinated because I'm like this blue collar kid coming in here and there's a lot of like big wigs.
But the two topics that like the whole thing I was surprised everyone talked about was sleep.
And the ability to live, you know, eternally.
Like those are like the two things that like these, you know, they're like diving in and spending all this money just trying to figure out those two things.
And it just, it was fascinating to me that that was like the topics that are of interest.
tim pool
No, I just googled it.
I found it.
Sleep isolation pods.
They're soundproof.
You go inside and it's got lights and everything.
It's exactly what I described.
Wow, that's amazing.
phil labonte
I was actually going to say you should ask Joe Rogan because that sounds like a Joe Rogan contraption, to be honest with you.
tim pool
You know what I heard is that sensory deprivation tanks can give you the equivalent of eight hours of sleep in two hours.
I don't know that that's true.
But I've heard that basically, because when you're sleeping, your brain is actually maintaining a certain level of activity because of threats.
Crazy thing.
I was reading how if you sleep in hotels a lot, you're only getting half of your REM and deep sleep because you're in an unfamiliar place and there's this instinctive thing that humans do where their brains don't fully go out when you're in an unfamiliar place because of potential dangers.
So you have to be familiar with where you sleep to get good sleep.
So your body's accustomed to it, it feels safe, and then you can shut down.
Sensory deprivation shuts everything out.
And so apparently you go, you zonk out in one of those, and a couple hours later you feel like it's been eight hours.
phil labonte
I wonder if that means that I can't get a, like a full night's sleep on a bus.
Because we'll go on, get on the bus for like a month.
I wonder if it takes, like how long it takes to actually get used to it, or if over time, because I've done so many tours.
tim pool
It's the same bus.
phil labonte
It is.
tim pool
I wonder if your brain knows this is my bus, like it's your, it's the same bed, you know what I mean?
unidentified
You're used to it.
cliff maloney
I do about 200 different hotel rooms at night.
Or a year 200 nights so that it's funny you say that cuz like I never you know I've been doing it for like two three years now with fundraising and just recruiting and That makes a lot of sense now that you say it like that, you know, yeah that that Awareness of the same place maybe a good pillow Would you know about pillow familiarity?
tim pool
I know that Mike Lindell just sponsored us You know, so my pillow comm promo code Tim.
I Take that, Jack Posobiec!
hannah claire brimelow
I was gonna say, it's the only promo code now.
tim pool
Yup, he's gonna come in here with a bi-pillow and we're gonna have a second bi-pillow.
phil labonte
Not Tanya, not Poso, it's Tim.
T-I-M, that's it.
tim pool
You know, I was thinking it'd be funny if we did, like, a pillow-off, where, like, he came here and said promo code Poso, but it's not fair, because, like, my show would probably do really well and his show would probably do really well, so it wouldn't really work.
cliff maloney
Do it here and then do it on his show.
tim pool
We're just doing it because he came on the show and he's a good dude and they're doing a new promo and they asked us if we'd be interested and we might.
We're looking for sponsors for the events that we're doing and so this is a trial run to see if it works and then when we do the monthly events in the Martinsburg building, we need sponsors.
We're setting up RNC shows and it's so insanely hard.
Because we had to be there all week, the RNC is all week.
Ridiculously expensive.
And so we're like, we need multiple sponsors.
Like, we need, yeah, otherwise it's just too expensive to pull off, but we're gonna do it anyway!
We're gonna do it.
And it might be, you know, we might come in slightly less, you know, we're not gonna make money on it, but we wanna be in, we wanna be there.
Not the DNC, because we don't have a death wish.
unidentified
So, yeah.
tim pool
Let's see, we'll grab some more Super Chats.
Triton54 says, wouldn't it be hilarious if the Fetterman shift was just an Elon troll?
He gets a beta Neuralink for stroke recovery and Elon is controlling his mind and actions.
hannah claire brimelow
That's my fear about Neuralinks.
I mean, that'd be an interesting use, but somebody else controlling your mind via a computer?
No thanks.
phil labonte
Tim, you were talking today about the green scooters that stop- Lime scooters.
Yeah, the lime scooters.
tim pool
Yeah, they won't drive over the Pride mural anymore?
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
There was that kill switch, whatever it was, the kill switch bill they were trying to put through, I don't know if that actually passed or not, but you know that's coming to cars.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.
unidentified
100%.
tim pool
Alright, Thomas Tegroen.
Is that how you pronounce it?
unidentified
Probably not.
tim pool
Says, Phil, Divine is one of your best songs, but nothing tops that one you sang that went, it's been two weeks since you looked at me, cocked your head to the side, and said I'm angry.
That song saved me.
unidentified
That was you?
tim pool
No way!
phil labonte
I love that band.
Okay, I love that band.
And I appreciate the kudos about Divine as well.
tim pool
There are a lot of songs titled Two Weeks, huh?
phil labonte
Yeah, yeah.
So, whatever.
tim pool
I'm gonna type in two weeks of lyrics and see who wins.
Grizzly Bear.
phil labonte
I wonder who Grizzly Bear is.
tim pool
That's a good song, too.
Two Weeks by Grizzly Bear, yeah.
Save up all the days of routine malaise, just like yesterday.
hannah claire brimelow
When you're titling songs, is this something you have to consider?
The fact that there are other songs with that name?
Just do it anyways.
phil labonte
No, you don't worry about other songs with that name because the topic of the song tells you.
One thing that I learned from, well not learned, but one thing that Jamie Josta from Haperead told me that I have since embraced, no matter what you want to name the song, you always name the song whatever is the most audible, articulate word in the chorus or phrase in the chorus because they're going to come up to you and they're going to say that anyway.
You can name it whatever you want, but they're gonna come up and be like the one with the you know the memorable
tim pool
chorus This happened with the movie edge of tomorrow. Mm-hmm
They put the posters up that said live die repeat and then everyone started calling the movie live die repeat
phil labonte
I thought it was live die repeat for the for the longest time and I loved the movie. Yeah, so
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
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Cliff, do you want to shout anything out?
cliff maloney
PAchase.com, anybody that wants to help out, whether you want to sponsor a student doorknocker, or if you want to come out and chase ballots with us.
And that big shout out to Rick Becker, tomorrow's primary in North Dakota.
I know we've got thousands of people in North Dakota watching the show right now, but Rick Becker, America first, liberty-minded patriot.
Thanks for having me, guys.
phil labonte
First of all, thank you very much to everybody that sent me well wishes over the weekend.
Thursday was rough, but it was really, really nice to see all you people sending me get-well-soons and stuff.
I am PhilThatRemains on Twix.
I'm PhilThatRemainsOfficial on Instagram.
The band is All That Remains.
We're gonna be on tour this summer with Megadeth and Mudvayne on the Destroy All Enemies Tour starting August 2nd, finishing up September 28th, I believe.
The new single is Divine.
It's available on Pandora, Spotify, Apple Music, Deezer, Amazon Music, you know, the internet.
Also, we have a new song, a new video coming very shortly.
I'm not going to say anymore, but it's coming soon.
Tomorrow?
unidentified
No.
No.
hannah claire brimelow
Day after?
phil labonte
No.
Stop it.
Stop it.
But it's coming soon.
Also, don't forget The Left Lane is for Crime.
hannah claire brimelow
It's been so fun having you here.
I'm glad you could tell us about what you're doing in Pennsylvania.
I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlow.
I'm a writer for scnr.com, that's Scanner News.
They do great work.
Follow at TimCastNews on Twitter and Instagram to see stuff from our journalists, see stuff from Alad, who's our field reporter.
If you want to follow me personally, I'm on Instagram at HannahClaire.B and I'm on Twitter at HannahClaireB.
So thanks so much for everything you guys do.
Bye, Serge!
unidentified
See you later.
Bye, guys.
tim pool
We'll see you all over at TimCast.com in about a minute.
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