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BIDEN IMPEACHMENT FILED, GOP Files Saying Its THE SAME As Trump Ukraine w/Josh Smith | Timcast IRL
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tim pool
All right, well, the impeachment of Joe Biden has been filed, which is still kind of boring,
I mean, it's a big deal that they've formally filed to impeach Joe Biden over withholding military aid to Israel in exchange for a quid pro quo.
Basically, Joe Biden said to Israel, do not engage in military actions.
Although the ones that we don't want you to do otherwise, we will not give you congressionally approved military aid, which he does not have the authority to do according to Democrats.
And then he did withhold it when Israel or I actually before they even went into Rafa.
So that's a quid pro quo.
Why'd he do it?
Well, he's getting attacked mercilessly by many young Democrats for his support of Israel, and he's trying to signal that he's on the right side of history or whatever it is, so he's desperate for those political points, and now they filed for impeachment.
I don't know that actually goes anywhere, but last night we were talking about how they
were preparing to impeach him.
Now they've actually, it's been formally filed by Corey Mills.
We'll see if it actually goes anywhere.
We'll talk about that.
But the big news, of course, outside of that is Michael Rapoport has withdrawn his endorsement.
And as you know, that's a very big deal.
It's big enough in that, I mean, Rapoport, such a strong anti-Trump personality coming
out in the way he is, it's indicative of what we're seeing for a lot of different people.
But then I suppose the actual real big story, which, you know, we probably could have let off with, is the X-class solar flare.
That is barreling towards Earth, has already made contact in some places.
Europe is already seeing the northern lights, but they're red instead of green.
So, uh, whip out your biblical prophecies, prepare for a lesson in eschatology, because we're going to talk about whatever that means, but I actually don't know enough anyway, so we'll do that.
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Joshua Smith.
joshua smith
Hey, how's it going, Tim?
Thanks so much for having me on again.
For those who don't know, I'm a candidate for president for the Libertarian Party.
Our nomination's coming up in two weeks, so maybe we get the nomination, maybe we don't, I don't know.
Also the host of Break the Cycle with Joshua Smith, live on Tuesdays and Thursdays.
Thanks for having me.
tim pool
Easy enough.
Shane's hanging out.
shane cashman
Yo, harp is trending.
The sun is exploding.
I'm Shane Cashman and Inverted World Live is going to debut on Sunday, 6 p.m.
on YouTube at Tales from the Inverted World.
My first guest will be Tim Pool.
We will talk about reality.
We will talk about the sun exploding.
We'll talk about ghosts.
tim pool
Yeah, and Tales from the Inverted World, I'm 100% serious.
Tales from the Inverted World is filmed on location in a haunted house.
shane cashman
I've been living in a haunted house for three years.
tim pool
And I want to stress this again.
I am not joking or exaggerating.
We actually got a barnhouse that was built in like the 1850s and fixed it up and that's where the show is actually shot and filmed.
And the staff at Timcast have been complaining about weird goings on there.
I'm not joking.
shane cashman
They're hearing strange sounds.
Doors are slamming.
It is bizarre.
joshua smith
Shane saw the meme online that's like, stay here for one million dollars and he just stayed.
He never left.
shane cashman
I didn't even need a million dollars.
tim pool
I gotta be honest, if you're a ghost, you're pissed, because every space of that building is occupied by workers.
shane cashman
Yes.
tim pool
But, like, the first week of being here, people are like, hey, there's some weird stuff going on here.
I'm like, well, you're in a haunted house.
I don't know what that means.
I don't know if they're ghosts.
I'm just telling you, it's a house that is like 170 years old.
The ceilings are like 6'5", because people were short back then.
So it's pretty wild.
shane cashman
And we're getting call-ins on Sundays.
So we have people lined up to call in and we'll be hearing their crazy stories about ghosts and centaurs and near-death experiences.
Oh yeah, it's wild, dude.
joshua smith
You do know that six-five ceilings weren't big enough for Nephilim Giants, so at least you're doing good there.
shane cashman
They might be underground waiting to come back.
tim pool
We got Phil hanging out.
phil labonte
Hello everybody, my name is Phil Labonte.
I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains.
I'm a counter... jeez, I messed it up today.
I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.
How you doing, Anne-Claire?
hannah claire brimelow
I can't believe you messed that up!
phil labonte
Why?
hannah claire brimelow
It's your monologue.
unidentified
I am not perfect.
hannah claire brimelow
It's who you are.
It's the only thing.
I thought that was your whole name at one point.
phil labonte
I am not.
hannah claire brimelow
I'm Hannah Kliff Rimmel.
I'm a writer for SCNR.com.
I'm tonight's diversity hire here to represent women.
Fulfill all the Title IX requirements.
Hi, Serge!
unidentified
Hello!
tim pool
Yeah, let's get started, Tim.
Here's the big news, I guess.
I think the solar flare might be bigger news, but when they file to impeach the president, I feel like you can't ignore it.
And I gotta be honest...
I feel kind of bored with it.
Okay, so we all know Biden, he's being accused of a quid pro quo.
He tells Israel, if you invade Rafah, I'm not going to give you the military aid, which is beyond his capabilities as president, because Congress has already approved the aid to be delivered to Israel.
I'm not saying we like that, but Joe Biden doesn't have the authority to unilaterally deny Congress having voted to pass this aid.
That is one branch acting like they can do so much more.
Now, don't get me wrong.
The president sets foreign policy, and the president, in my opinion, actually could do this, but the standard has been set by Democrats when they impeached Donald Trump for doing the exact same thing.
Because Trump said to Ukraine, we're not going to give you the aid, we want to know what's going on, and then Ukraine said okay, and then went, ah, that's it, he's impeached.
So now Joe Biden's got to go, and then we can have, I don't know, Kamala Harris, I guess?
unidentified
Oh, geez.
People are going to jump into the why.
phil labonte
They're going to jump into the, oh, well, it was different because Donald Trump did this, or it was different because blah, blah, blah.
There's already people beginning to make that argument on Twitter.
And the why does not matter.
The fact of the matter is, the that Congress approved the shipments, whether you like them
or not, Congress did.
And then the president threatened to intercede in those shipments because of politics.
And the president does not have the authority to do that.
So if you're going to impeach Donald Trump for it.
You gotta impeach Joe Biden for it.
Or at least there is justification to impeach Joe Biden for it.
And I say good for the Republicans for doing it because F the Democrats.
joshua smith
I'm not gonna do what past Libertarian candidates have done and say they're great public servants, but I'm riding with Biden on this one.
Look, I believe the president should have the power.
Even if they don't, I believe they probably do have the power to veto spending bills.
And this is, to me, it's a spending bill.
And the AUMF has given the president the power to direct our military all over the world for, you know, decades now anyways.
So, like, it's good for Biden.
Good for Biden.
I'm glad that Biden is deciding not to send any more of my taxpayer money to wars that I don't support.
shane cashman
Can he do it to all wars?
joshua smith
God, I sure wish he could.
shane cashman
Can we just eliminate all the wars?
Wouldn't that be perfect?
But he won't do that.
joshua smith
I would like to see it stopped.
tim pool
Well, I suppose I should say, I got to agree.
unidentified
I am also riding with Biden on this one.
tim pool
Well, because let's talk principally.
When Donald Trump said that he's going to withhold military aid, I think that's fine.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I think the president negotiating with foreign countries needs to have the executive authority over our military and how we align and ally with other countries.
Congress saying we approve this being sent, I believe ultimately goes to the president to make the determination in these negotiations with foreign leaders.
That means the same would apply for Biden.
But if we're saying, this is the standard that has been set, you want to play ball, we'll play ball, that I get.
But I also disagree with impeaching Joe Biden in any capacity.
Because we are six months away from an election he is poised to lose on the merits, and we don't need to give them any more advantages.
So right now the real issue for the election is the shadow campaign, whatever it may be, I don't know, but there certainly is one.
Biden is a bucket of concrete strapped to the legs of the Democratic Party.
I don't think it's wise the GOP decide to help take that bucket of concrete off their legs as they're trying to swim this victory.
shane cashman
It's funny that we live in a world where impeachments are now like PR positives for presidents.
Don't do it because it's gonna help.
hannah claire brimelow
But then that happened to Trump like when he got impeached, his support went up.
joshua smith
Of course.
hannah claire brimelow
It's also hilarious because there's no way that happens with Biden, right?
If he gets impeached, so like everyone who's running away from his ship is already gonna be like, yeah, see, I told you he was a bad guy.
joshua smith
Look, the thing about the thing about Trump and God bless him for doing this is one of the greatest things that Trump did was he made people hate the corporate news media.
Like, absolutely.
That was one of the greatest things of the Trump presidency.
And so like, of course, when the news media started going in on him on this impeachment, Everybody's like, yeah, screw them, you know?
But this is just a ploy by the Democrats to slide somebody else in there right before the election.
There's no doubt about it.
tim pool
Sure, sure.
But let's talk about my favorite thing ever.
And I can't believe it's been almost 10 years.
The well-done steak with ketchup.
It was Trump.
You know Trump knows what he's doing.
So a 30-day dry-aged steak.
And they said, Mr. Trump, how would you like?
And he says, well done with a side of ketchup.
And Trump, I've been to Mar-a-Lago, the man knows how to eat a steak.
You don't have a club like that about understanding culinary standards, the way people dress, the dress codes.
No, he did this because he knew the media would make fun of him, and then middle America would be like, that's how I have my steak.
joshua smith
That's how we eat our steak here!
tim pool
Why are they making fun of Trump?
They're not making fun of Trump, they're making fun of the people when they did that.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, no, I think that that was the point in which I really understood the amount of troll Yeah, that Trump was was that was that and then the coffee meme as well You can't ever forget that you woke up if that was in the morning, too You woke up and you're like what the hell me like, oh, you know, he I know what's going on You know, we learned a lot by being in front of a camera on reality Knowing like if I just do this one thing I can yeah the entire media sphere, of course So that's what all this I mean most of it He always, since the day he started flirting with the idea of announcing his run for presidency, has controlled the media cycle, right?
I mean, it lives and thrives off of what Trump does, in part because they hate him so much they can't look away, which is sort of hysterical, but also because he knows that he is a bigger personality than anybody else on both sides of the aisle, including Joe Biden, who's like barely with us as far as I can tell.
It's really interesting to me, and maybe that's because of his reality TV background, but I also think you are just born that way.
There are some people with this kind of charisma.
joshua smith
This version of Joe Biden is almost not with us.
Thank you.
Who knows if it's the same one.
unidentified
Thank you.
Agreed.
hannah claire brimelow
Whichever one is there.
tim pool
The covfefe thing was great because, what did he say?
Despite the negative, despite the negative, it was like despite the negative, the media covfefe or something.
And then there were people actually, I think Cassandra actually wrote this, and it was like, kafafi is Arabic for I will stand.
And I'm like, come on, someone potato fingers to the phone and then accidentally hit send.
That's all that happened.
And then Trump responded with like, what could it mean?
joshua smith
Yeah.
tim pool
And he's just loving it.
hannah claire brimelow
He's just laughing.
He's like, I'm in charge.
I'm living in all of your heads, rent free.
joshua smith
If it was a fat thumb thing, he would have taken it down.
I mean, there's no doubt.
shane cashman
I don't know.
phil labonte
It was a fat thumb thing.
shane cashman
I think he likes it.
joshua smith
I don't know.
shane cashman
I think he likes it.
It's a clown playing 4D chess, but it's not 4D chess.
joshua smith
I still think that he did it on purpose.
tim pool
You think he wrote about fat feet?
unidentified
Yeah.
joshua smith
I don't.
unidentified
No.
phil labonte
I don't think he did it on purpose.
I do think that he just left it.
He's like, it makes people talk.
It's funny.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
He's laughing when he realized how it was trending and he was like, and he was like, what could it mean?
hannah claire brimelow
I also think this is the difference between a president, you know, people point out that Joe Biden's the oldest president.
Trump is older, right?
He's like 78 now.
But he actually loves social media.
He loves it.
He loves Twitter.
He thinks it's great.
He started, you know, he started to social.
Whereas Joe Biden, I don't think ever was really in charge of his own social media account.
And so he doesn't have any way to message himself.
He is completely dependent on whatever Gen Z staffer.
They're like, you must know about the internet.
You read my tweets.
shane cashman
His hands don't work.
hannah claire brimelow
Nothing works.
shane cashman
His legs work separate of the rest of his body.
He's like a lobster.
joshua smith
Yeah, that's true.
Look, for my own candidacy for president, a lot of people are like, oh, you're too rough, you're this, you're too much of a troll online.
I'm like, did you not see Donald Trump in the White House for four years?
That's what people want now.
They want somebody that's going to say dumb shit like that all the time.
I miss him.
hannah claire brimelow
I think it's personality.
I think people want to feel like there is someone with decisiveness and who has a personality, whereas I think everyone sort of feels, even if, you know, registered Democrats are like, yeah, Joe Biden's there, but he's more of the amalgamation of whatever his staffers are doing.
He's not enough of a personality to feel like a leader, and he's not present enough in anyone's mind to really feel like an inspirational candidate.
joshua smith
Yeah, I don't think anybody in the United States believes that Joe Biden is running the country right now.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, I don't think anyone looks at him and says, yes, I want that guy as he is in the White House.
I think they're like, well, I guess I have to vote for him.
tim pool
I think it's magic.
You know, I think it's it's Trump.
When he walks in a room, he has an aura just coming out of him.
And you can see it when he's somewhere.
The way people act around him, it's the weirdest thing.
Some people just have it, the X Factor.
I don't mean literal magic, there's like something about him you can't put your finger on.
Call it the X Factor, call it whatever it is.
Some people have it, some people don't.
Not a single Democrat's got it.
Trump's got too much.
And there's a bunch of Republicans that have a little bit.
But it's just like, Trump's that guy that everybody wants to tell a story to, that everybody wants to talk to, that everybody wants, they want Trump to hear what they have to say for some reason.
Don't know why.
phil labonte
Our guitar player's like that, Mike.
Everybody likes him.
Everybody wants to hang out with him.
And I can't figure out why.
He's been in the band 20 years.
unidentified
I hate to go.
hannah claire brimelow
Phil's like, why is he still here?
joshua smith
He's still here?
Holy crap.
hannah claire brimelow
Phil votes him out every time.
unidentified
He's still there.
phil labonte
Get out of here.
I call him stupid Mike Martin all the time.
tim pool
He just shows back up and then we all just let him stay.
phil labonte
And he's bigger than me.
He's big and strong too, so I can't say no.
hannah claire brimelow
Are you being bullied in your own band?
phil labonte
Maybe a little bit, yeah.
joshua smith
That's why Phil works out so much.
One of these days, Mike!
One of these days!
phil labonte
Before he had a kid, he used to work out.
I think his max bench was like 4 or 5.
joshua smith
That's a lot.
phil labonte
Stupid!
hannah claire brimelow
So do people like him or are they just scared of him?
phil labonte
It is weird.
I've said it before.
He's got this weird charisma.
He's not super outgoing and he's not the kind of person that's really boisterous and he's not the kind of person that goes out and socializes a lot.
But there's something about him when like people meet him they're just like I like that guy and and they he's just got this charisma where people are like I want to go and hang out with that guy.
tim pool
Is he from New York?
joshua smith
Is he from New York?
phil labonte
No, he's from Ludlow.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
tim pool
I think, I think someone in the chat, they kind of explained it.
It's this, there's a new way to describe the energy that Trump has.
Riz.
joshua smith
Oh, the Riz.
He is Rizin.
unidentified
He has Riz.
joshua smith
Yeah, the Riz, yeah.
unidentified
My 12-year-old says that.
hannah claire brimelow
Do you think we're going to have fewer charismatic people because we had a generation of kids, like, every generation is increasingly more online?
joshua smith
Well, no, I think the charisma died out when comedy died out.
I mean, really, at the end of the day, any joke now is off-limits and offensive, and you can't go out and have that aura anymore.
You're misogynist or whatever.
phil labonte
So I agree with you about comedy, but I don't think the charisma has died off.
I still think that there is an innate Amount of charisma and it's not just pretty privileged because again like like I said Mike He's not what you would consider like an like a good-looking dude like he's not so you don't like him and he's ugly It's like we used to have a whole generation of men that wanted to have the wrist I mean that was like people aspired men spired to have the wrist I agree to have swag and now they aspire you're still you're
You're talking about something different than what I'm talking about.
Because what it sounds like is you're talking about things like being able to interact and how to win friends and influence people, right?
joshua smith
Sure, the aura.
phil labonte
Yeah, but the thing is there is a certain amount of just natural charisma that people have where you don't know why someone walks into a room and you're like, I like that guy and I don't know why.
Often times it's associated with things like height, with facial symmetry and stuff like that.
Not always.
Sometimes it's not.
And like I said, Mike isn't a weird looking guy, but he's not a particularly handsome guy where you're like, oh, that is a pretty dude.
tim pool
I think everybody knows that, you know, the moment Trump steps out on that stage or appears on the TV, all the ladies are fainting and fanning themselves.
shane cashman
He's the new Beatles.
joshua smith
He's the Beatles.
phil labonte
He had that.
When he was younger he had that.
joshua smith
He also had a lot of money.
hannah claire brimelow
But there are a lot of people with lots of money who are very awkward and weird.
joshua smith
They still have women fawning over them every day.
phil labonte
Money has never made anyone ugly.
Like money has never made someone other.
joshua smith
Have you ever seen Bill Gates?
Have you ever seen an interview with Bill Gates?
shane cashman
Bill Gates is a melting marshmallow.
Yeah, he's a goofy person.
tim pool
Let's jump to this next story from STNR.
Perhaps one of the most important and shocking things we've seen so far.
Michael Rapaport.
Has withdrawn his endorsement for Joe Biden.
I can't believe it.
The esteemed comedian is now saying that he will not be supporting Biden.
He says, I'm officially unendorsing Joe Biden.
I did so much work on behalf of this soft serve ice cream eating.
I'm done.
I want to give him a shout out.
The reason why his journey's been so incredible is because he's so vocal, he's so animated in his mockery of Trump and now of Biden, and he is a funny guy.
I think there's a P missing from it.
He has two P's.
joshua smith
I guess Israel's more important to Rappaport than our democracy, huh?
Well, that's unfortunate.
tim pool
He's legit funny.
And even when he says voting for pig dick Donald Trump is on the table, it's funny.
And I can respect it but I think ultimately what we see here is the tides they are turning and there are a lot of people who are, this is not just about Mike Rappaport, we were talking about this the other day, Jewish voters who up until a week ago were anti-Trump and for Joe Biden and endorsing him and bang they're now pro-Trump, instantly anti-Biden just on one issue Overnight.
joshua smith
Well, I think the funny thing is, is that Biden has supported Israel way more than Trump ever has ever.
And they're, I mean, at the end of the day, they're both pro Zionist and Trump put the embassy in Jerusalem, right?
shane cashman
He did make big moves.
tim pool
And Trump is the one who executive ordered the anti-Semitism definition.
shane cashman
Yes.
Yeah, and he did the Abraham Accords.
tim pool
Well, the Abraham Accords are good.
shane cashman
No, I'm saying, like, he was trying to do things that were, seemed pro-Israel-ish.
Right, right.
joshua smith
Joe Biden's been voting to send money to Israel for 40 years.
Yes.
He made a career of this.
It's his career.
I mean, he supported Israel way more than Donald Trump ever has.
I see what you're saying.
It's not even close.
phil labonte
It's not like- Anything that pisses off the communists, the Nazis, at the same time, I'm
kind of for it, man.
So, if it hurts the Democrats, and it hurts the communists, and it pisses off the Nazis, I'm like, all right, I kind of, you know, I kind of like it, because all of that stuff is anti-American BS, so.
hannah claire brimelow
I just think this is, you know, an example of how many Americans feel betrayed by Biden, right?
Like, it's why when people say, like, We have empathy for loss of life in other places, but we want you to focus on what's going on at home.
Like, we are suffering here.
The border is way too open.
I cannot pay my bills.
joshua smith
None of that matters to Michael Rappaport at all.
hannah claire brimelow
No, but it's interesting because he's like, I was on your side and I feel as though you've betrayed me.
Whatever his reasoning is, like, I think that's a sentiment that a ton of voters share right now.
It's not that they're in love with Donald Trump.
Maybe there are people who are won over, but a lot of people are just like, Biden is the worst and he let me down.
joshua smith
Yeah.
shane cashman
Do you think this will be the thing that changes Rappaport to see other issues like that?
Like if Israel is his gateway drug into seeing other problems in this country?
phil labonte
This is a one and done kind of thing.
Israel, when it comes to Jewish people that are generally liberal or leftist, and they're like, oh, this one issue, this will be the one and done.
shane cashman
So you don't see him in a brick suit at the border wall?
phil labonte
No, I definitely don't see him being like, build a wall, build a wall.
joshua smith
The majority of the pro-Zionist people in the United States are liberal.
They just support pro-Zionist Republicans because they're pro-Zionist.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, what do you mean by liberal?
Like culturally, and they want, I mean, they want... Liberal in an American sense, or liberal as in... Not liberal as in the classical liberal sense.
joshua smith
Like neoliberal, open the entire borders... You just said neoliberal.
phil labonte
Hold on, you just said neoliberal, right?
Okay, do you think of libertarians as neoliberal?
joshua smith
Absolutely not.
phil labonte
Sitchin' at him, you see?
Anyways.
joshua smith
We lost that term.
unidentified
We lost that term to the left.
tim pool
Neoliberal is a reference to, like, Democrat establishment corporatism.
phil labonte
That's what I think, too.
joshua smith
But the classical term liberal was libertarianism.
I mean, the founders were classical liberals.
That's how they were.
But the left stole that term from us.
That's the problem with the right and libertarians is we've been losing the war on language for decades and decades and decades.
tim pool
But that's why neoliberal exists.
joshua smith
Right.
tim pool
Because liberal is a reference to, there's different facets of liberalism in classical liberalism, traditional social liberalism, and then you have neoliberalism, like you have neoconservatism.
It's the establishment, uniparty garbage.
But this is what I thought.
Are they arguing neoliberal means libertarian?
phil labonte
So that's what, yeah, they're like, well, libertarian, because they're saying that it's a new liberalism that's open markets and blah, blah, blah.
And I'm like, I never thought of neoliberal.
joshua smith
These guys are trying to take it back.
phil labonte
It's not going to work.
I always thought of neoliberals as Democrats.
Hillary Clinton.
Exactly.
Hillary Clinton.
So they were just as much the war machine as anything else.
joshua smith
That was my perspective.
The guy who started the Liberal Caucus in the Libertarian Party, who's trying to bring the term liberal back as neoliberal, as libertarian, and then he's praising Bill Weld on social media.
That guy sat on the board of CFR, like, come on, man.
phil labonte
He's so, like, that's the thing, it's like, that guy Josh, like, I think he means well,
I had to block him because he's annoying, but I think he means well, but he's so long.
joshua smith
I'd love to see your block list, Phil.
phil labonte
It's long, dude.
Because I block at the drop, I'm on the Michael Malice train.
Michael Malice is right when it comes to Twitter.
joshua smith
I only block the porn bots, that's it.
phil labonte
You block anyone for any reason at the drop of a hat because your Twitter experience is your experience and you are not obligated to listen to anyone's BS.
joshua smith
You have to monetize the hate, man.
Why even look at your mentions?
phil labonte
Oh, I still talk to people all the time.
tim pool
Yeah, I can't.
phil labonte
I don't have two million.
tim pool
Mine's random.
phil labonte
Mine's still manageable.
tim pool
It's just nonsense.
I open it up and it's a mix of like crypto salesmen, marijuana, porn bots.
phil labonte
Mine's different now than it was like a year and change ago when I started coming down here regularly and stuff, but like it's still manageable.
joshua smith
I probably have 2,000 Twitter porn bots blocked, but nobody else.
tim pool
What I do is, if there's someone that is, you know, if I see... I do periodically look at mentions and stuff like that.
If I see someone, the first thing I do is I don't block them.
I do block them.
And then I unblock them instantly.
It's a force on follow.
I'll stop appearing in their feed without them being blocked and then out of sight, out of mind.
joshua smith
That's pretty cool.
tim pool
I didn't know that.
hannah claire brimelow
Tim's giving away Twitter secrets right now.
joshua smith
Now I know why Tim stopped showing up in my Twitter feed, dude.
That's messed up, man.
tim pool
The force on follow has been around forever.
You block and unblock right away.
Because some people are trying to get blocked.
unidentified
Oh yeah.
tim pool
It's a currency.
I just like following the people that are the worst to me.
shane cashman
It's a currency.
tim pool
Right.
It is.
So you don't give it to them.
You just, step one is block on block.
And they don't follow you anymore.
shane cashman
I just like following the people that are the worst to me.
I just follow them back.
joshua smith
I don't, I do, look, I take it back.
I do block, there are some people, you know for a long time they went after my family
and they were talking shit about my family.
I do block people that talk about my children.
That's the one caveat that I carry is if you talk about my kids, you're done.
phil labonte
There was a time where Antifa people were trying to go after the band, and so I started just blocking everything.
I'm pretty good at keeping myself separate from the band.
I don't do political stuff under the guise of all that remains, so I can keep them separate.
And the guys in the band, they're very different opinions in the band.
We're not a monolith at all.
joshua smith
Well, we were trying to adopt the baby sibling of our two adopted children, and people were calling the DHS trying to keep us from adopting.
unidentified
And they did.
joshua smith
Eventually it happened.
hannah claire brimelow
Really?
You couldn't do it?
You couldn't adopt a kid?
joshua smith
They just made it too hard.
hannah claire brimelow
That's crazy!
Which means that people kept a child from having a home with their biological siblings because of what they did on Twitter.
Yes.
This is the thing about the internet.
I would be really interested to see an individual list of who has blocked all of us, because I think there is an aspect of the internet where people create a version of you.
You are creating it when you post, but also people have a version of you that they have come pre-determined to the platform.
joshua smith
They don't know me.
hannah claire brimelow
They see you on one thing and they're like, that guy is the worst and I hate him.
They don't actually spend any time looking.
They'll block you right off the bat.
joshua smith
I'd like to know how many of my hater dorks adopted kids from foster care.
I'd like to know.
phil labonte
This goes back to what we were saying about charisma.
there's the same kind of distaste, immediate knee jerk reaction that people have.
Like some people, you'll just meet someone and there's like, I don't like something about that person.
And you can't, and it's really, really hard to do anything about it if you like get that, you know?
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I think it's weird.
I can, I know there's one person who has me blocked on Twitter
and I know why, person who's never interacted with me ever.
You know what I mean?
Like, it's interesting to think, I don't care about you at all,
but you care enough about me even though we've never interacted
you have to go out of your way to block my content.
I'm like barely alive on Twitter.
joshua smith
I've had people call my jobs and all kinds of stuff.
These people are nasty, man.
tim pool
We had bomb threats and death threats.
joshua smith
Yeah, you've had a bunch of shit too.
Yeah, absolutely.
I've had lots of death threats.
Lots of death threats.
If I showed up to my own anti-war rally for my own party in DC, they said they would kill me.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
That's weird because I feel like the stuff that happened with us was very specific and centered around one particular thing that I can't discuss but I see people post these messages where it's like someone sent me this message look and it's like this really awful nasty thing you're a scumbag piece of every swear in the world we really don't get any of that stuff.
joshua smith
Nice.
tim pool
Yeah, uh, aside from the swatting stuff that was going on, that was hyper-specific to... You know, there's still an ongoing investigation related to it, but they think they caught the guy.
I don't know that they did.
But that was really, really specific.
In terms of the general death threats and stuff like this, for, uh... I don't see it.
Like, we did the skate thing in DC.
We announced we're gonna be there.
Not a peep.
We showed up and everyone clapped and cheered and we got high fives.
joshua smith
Yeah.
I carry everywhere I go.
hannah claire brimelow
I get, like, weird emotional messages.
Like, I've had people message me stuff that's like...
You know, just kind of dark.
They're telling me stuff that, like, I cannot help them with from the internet.
Again, you don't really, like, we don't actually know each other.
And that's where it starts to be, like, you know, the internet's such an interesting tool and people can feel really bonded with someone.
On the other hand, like, it makes it so there's this weird barrier where you're allowed to interact with someone in a way that, like, isn't real, but on the other end, like, They have no ability to help me if you're like threatening to hurt yourself or something like that.
And I, again, with the rise of like Twitter endorsements and like how many people, because if you were getting an endorsement for a presidential election in the past, right, you would like maybe get a congressman, maybe a newspaper would endorse you, their editorial board, whatever else, but now Michael Rappaport, different Uh, pillars of culture, especially that are big online, what they say really matters and it can reach people in a way that I don't think campaigns have the ability to keep up with.
I mean, the influencer effect on the election is intense.
shane cashman
We live in an influencer economy.
We do.
joshua smith
Culture war is very important right now.
tim pool
So, let's talk about what's going on.
We got big news that in two weeks, we got RFK Jr.
and Donald Trump at the Libertarian Party National Convention.
joshua smith
And Vivek.
tim pool
And Vivek.
joshua smith
Vivek's campaigning for Trump though, so I assume it's all just about for Well, Vivek has actually said that he's going to debate our vice presidential candidate.
tim pool
Really?
joshua smith
Which could end up being Kurt Russell.
Sorry.
unidentified
Kurt Russell?
tim pool
Wow!
shane cashman
Good news, Joshua!
joshua smith
Listen, I just did exactly what Michael Recktenwald did on the show when he couldn't remember Clint's name.
I know Clint.
Clint's a good friend of mine.
tim pool
Well, I said the other day that Trump made a mistake in hiring Michael Bolton, so... Yeah, Michael Bolton, exactly.
joshua smith
So, yeah, it could end up being Clint Russell from Liberty Lockdown is our vice presidential candidate.
hannah claire brimelow
He has no real... There are no challengers?
joshua smith
There are challengers, but, I mean, it's Clint.
He's kind of predetermined unless anybody else steps up, I think, at this point.
shane cashman
The fake signaling that he's VP?
joshua smith
I don't know.
That's what I felt like.
It felt like that's his signal.
tim pool
But he's standing behind Trump at the fundraiser.
joshua smith
Has Trump picked a VP yet?
tim pool
No, but he's at Mar-a-Lago with Trump at a fundraiser standing right next to him.
I don't see him... I see him going with the intent of helping Donald Trump.
But to have a major political candidate going to the Libertarian Party convention... A past president!
Right!
It's massive!
This is history!
joshua smith
The biggest thing that ever happened to the Libertarian Party.
And you know, the normal social club people that have been in the Libertarian Party for a long time are really upset about this.
Hey, you know, there's a part of me that's like, hey, this is taking, at first, like, this is going to take a couple eyes off our candidate.
But then I really got to the point where I was like, no, we're going to have more eyes on our candidate than we've ever had at the National Convention in 50 years, right?
So like, and there's also like, RFK Jr.
is pushing for a debate with Donald Trump, right?
Which, if that was to happen and get the LP, it's not going to happen.
unidentified
No way.
joshua smith
It's probably not.
But if we stay able to get the Libertarian presidential candidate in there as well, because if we can pick the nominee early enough.
Then we have, you know, three different parties, basically, actually doing something that the Libertarian Party has never been able to do ever in history.
hannah claire brimelow
When do you guys pick your candidate?
On the first day of your convention?
joshua smith
So, it's supposed to be on the third day, but there is a way to amend the agenda to move it up, and there's a lot of people that are talking, the delegates.
Because, you know, our delegates, there's only a thousand people that pick our nominee.
These delegates from all over the country show up and pick our nominee two weeks from today, actually.
And so, there's a chance that we move it up, we have our nominee picked, and that's the person that questions Donald Trump at the show.
hannah claire brimelow
Can you, when you, when Angela made the announcement, she said that people were going to like send in questions or something beforehand.
There's going to be sort of a list for Donald Trump.
joshua smith
There's already a list of things.
hannah claire brimelow
So what's the, is he getting like, is somebody moderating and asking him questions or is he going to deliver speech?
joshua smith
I've heard so many different things, but there's one that says if we have the nominee by then, the nominee is the one that gets to ask the questions from the panel.
If we don't have the nominee, this is the list of questions.
He's going to talk maybe about Ross Ulbrich.
There's all kinds of things flying around out there.
Who knows what's real?
Angela probably knows much better than I do what is real and what isn't.
There's so much in the Twitter space.
But look, the fact of the matter is that this is the biggest thing that happened to the Libertarian Party.
And people are like, oh, you're asking your opponents to come over there.
I'm like, that's good.
That's good for me.
Because if I get the nomination in two weeks, because I'm considered one of the frontrunner, maybe top three.
If I get the nomination and we're on C-SPAN and we're on all these news outlets and Donald Trump's there and I'm the guy that gets the nomination after a debate, because we have a debate too, like our candidates debate on the news, that's gonna be more eyes on the Libertarian Party than ever before, ever in history, in 50 years.
Why would you be mad about that?
Don't be mad about that.
That's a good thing.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, legitimately, as far as libertarians go, like, Donald Trump is a really bad libertarian.
So I get why there are, like, the pure... Because, look, I'm a better libertarian than Donald Trump, and there are libertarians out there that would swear to God I'm not a libertarian, right?
joshua smith
Sure.
phil labonte
So, you know, that's just the way that it goes.
So Donald Trump drawing attention, you know, I mean, God, but they're both so far away from libertarian.
tim pool
I think Trump's going to get booed and cheered.
He's going to get a lot of cheers and a lot of boos.
joshua smith
Well, you have to register for the Trump event, too, because there's limited space.
So there's going to be outside people.
It's not just going to be libertarians.
There's going to be a lot of people there.
It's essentially like Trump's own rally at the Libertarian Party Convention.
hannah claire brimelow
I was going to say, I would assume if libertarians are maybe like, don't siphon off our voters when we need them to vote for our candidate who we just selected.
joshua smith
This is the truth that Libertarians need to be confronted with.
That we have less than 700,000 registered Libertarian voters in the entire United States.
Trump can reach those people on the media today, right now.
He does not need to go to the Libertarian Party Convention.
But, there's a lot of other voters there that know nothing about the Libertarian Party that will see the Libertarian Party because of Trump being there.
Am I too close?
Am I hot?
tim pool
Am I hot?
phil labonte
I'm pretty hot.
tim pool
Look, he's cashing it!
joshua smith
My mic's starting to go out at home and I have the same mic and so I have to hold it real close.
I apologize.
tim pool
I think Trump's going to earn votes.
So the idea is actually really simple.
Trump does not have the Libertarian Party votes.
He doesn't have Libertarians.
They want to vote Libertarian.
Trump showing up, it's only a net positive.
And if he can get even a tiny bit, it's just good news for him.
That's why he's doing it.
joshua smith
I disagree.
tim pool
You think he's going there to be like, I better lose votes?
joshua smith
He can reach all those registered voters just on the news today, right now.
phil labonte
He doesn't have to go to the Libertarian Party.
Outreach matters.
Outreach doesn't matter.
joshua smith
Not to libertarians, buddy.
Have you ever met a libertarian?
tim pool
Then what is the reason Trump would actually go to the convention?
joshua smith
I don't know.
I'm sure he hopes, but I don't think that's gonna help.
I think it's gonna help the libertarians.
hannah claire brimelow
Even if you only have 700,000 registered libertarians, there are a lot of people who I mean, I think of the effect that, you know, that show Parks and Rec's had when they had this one Nick Offerman character who was a libertarian.
And I think that brought that concept to a lot of people, a lot of young people, who would be more open to the ideas.
They don't want to say they're conservative.
They don't want to say they're Republican.
They're like, well, but I like the libertarian.
So by Trump showing up at the event, it's him saying, like, I recognize that this is a philosophy that's there.
And I think this is He's gonna make his case for why, like, you guys should fall in line.
joshua smith
There was a whole group in 2016 called Libertarians for Trump.
I mean, it's not like the Libertarians don't know who Trump is.
Like, they've never seen him.
They live in a country that he was the president of for four years.
hannah claire brimelow
I think it's the spectacle of it.
And I think it's for the sympathetic, like, the Libertarian independent voter.
Like, he's gonna be like, but look, I talked to them.
joshua smith
I think that more people are gonna see our nominee.
tim pool
I think the issue with the Libertarian Party is that it's functionally just third party.
Right, you've got woke libertarians, anti-woke libertarians, pro-borders libertarians, anti-borders libertarians, it's just basically a group of a bunch of different people deciding that they don't like the establishment, and then operating under one banner.
joshua smith
Yeah, that's the problem with freedom, right?
Everybody's got it, and I said that before the show, everybody's got a different version of what freedom is to them, and that's the, it's a big, messy, beautiful thing, really, truly, and that's how freedom would be in any country that chose to adopt it.
But here's the thing, I posted on Twitter about this earlier, and Dave Smith God bless him said this on Twitter once too, but, um, you know, the thing of the, the, the, the simple thing about the white pill is if you have children or you plan on having children, you can't afford the black pill.
Right.
And that's the truth is like, I want my children to live in a society that has fewer laws than I lived in.
Right.
More freedoms than I lived in.
And, and so like, it's going to be a messy thing.
It's the freedom is going to be a messy thing, no matter what, because everyone's got a different version of that, but we've got to continue to push towards there.
I can't afford the black pill because I have children, you know, so many children.
phil labonte
Do you have an answer for the arguments that people that are post-liberals make?
Because I am still working through the liberalism has the flaw of liberalism takes arguments at face value and philosophies that are not liberal are not obliged to be honest or engage in debate in any kind of way that a liberal would understand it which is I think the reason why liberalism is has the people that say liberalism has failed whether they be on the left or the right the reason is because they have not allowed they have allowed
Illiberal philosophies to beat them by using illiberal arguments, but they're trying to still be liberal Do you know do you have a concept of what should be done?
When you're dealing with people that are going to openly lie that don't care about the truth that you know essentially the the the We're losing the war on language.
joshua smith
And we've been losing the war on language for a long time.
And a lot of that is deceitful, purposely deceitful.
seeing is articulated here. Yeah, well, we the problem is, like I said it once
earlier, is we're losing the war on language. And we've been losing the war
on language for a long time. And a lot of that is deceitful, purposely deceitful.
Yes. And so the best thing that we can do, and I don't consider myself a liberal.
Or I guess you can call it libertarianism, liberalism, whatever.
I don't really subscribe to that.
I think that technically to me it's a right-wing movement, and further right than the conservatives in the United States.
That's how I feel about it, and you know that we probably disagree on some things.
phil labonte
So philosophically, where would you say it comes from?
joshua smith
Philosophically, it probably was born out of classical liberalism.
And that's fine, but we seeded that word a long time ago.
Trying to bring that word back now as a libertarian is just failing us.
phil labonte
I understand what you're saying about the language, but what I'm trying to get to is where your ideas are going to stem from.
Is it a liberal philosophy?
what kind of philosophy do you have to inform your opinions, your epistemology.
joshua smith
I think the most important thing we can do is not mince our words anymore.
We don't want to play the language game anymore.
We want to use the language that's now in the now and not try to use the historical
language because we've lost that war a long time ago.
So no more mincing our words.
We've got to stand strong in every principle that we have.
And these are the important things, because it's becoming mainstream right now.
I mean, you've got MMA fighters going out there talking about Reed Mises and Rothbard in their post-fight interviews.
phil labonte
And Argentina seems like they're having... I don't know.
I haven't looked in deep, but I hear that the numbers are good now.
joshua smith
I go back and forth on Malay, and I think the Bitcoin movement in Salvador.
You know why I go back and forth on Malay.
I think he's done some really good things.
I'm not going to fault him entirely, but we'll see how Zionist he gets.
I still like him.
unidentified
He could fix Argentina, man.
He won me over at Afuera.
joshua smith
I don't hate the guy.
I think he's doing a good job.
I think he's done some really good things.
So I support that.
I do.
And I'm very clear about supporting him.
I do.
Now if he starts sending taxpayer money across the world, he's not really a libertarian, is he?
phil labonte
I don't think he's going to be sending taxpayer money.
joshua smith
I hope not.
tim pool
What does Josh Smith's presidency do for this country?
joshua smith
Well, first of all, and I talked about the first time I was on the show, the most important thing to me is the family in the United States.
I think the United States has had an open war against the family, whether it's economic policy, social policy, whether it's the actual family law in the United States right now with Title IV-D, the Social Security Act, which was signed into law by Gerald Ford in 1971.
That took us from a society that had 1 in 60 children living in a fatherless home to 1 in 4 just since the 70s.
With that's been undeniable stats for increases in violent youth offenders, increases in homeless and runaway youth, increases in school dropouts and mass shootings.
All this stuff is undeniably.
attached to the destruction of the family in the United States.
So that's at the forefront of trying to put the focus back on bringing families back together
and making families have to learn how to work it out.
That's the truth because we've just given people an easy out.
tim pool
As president, you will executive order mandate people have families?
joshua smith
No, no, no, no.
unidentified
You're losing my vote right now.
joshua smith
Why not?
No, I would work to remove Title 40 of the Social Security Act, which has paid states to separate families, where essentially the federal government pays a dollar to every state that spends 88 cents on these family programs.
But there's a lot of other things, too.
Economically, we're destroying the middle class.
You can't keep families together if you're destroying the middle class.
The Federal Reserve is obviously a giant counterfeiting machine that's, you know, stealing our wealth through a tax called inflation.
I know that's a bumper sticker, but that's the truth.
It's really the prop up for the warfare state and all the worst policy in the United States.
So, like, we've got to start working to dismantle the Fed.
Now, the president doesn't have the power to end the Federal Reserve, but he does have the power to nominate the Fed chair.
He does direct the Treasury.
Maybe we don't take any more fiat currency from the Fed.
There's a lot of different policies that could be worked on to start breaking down this Federal Reserve machine.
tim pool
You could make Luke Rudkowski the Fed Chair.
joshua smith
Well, I've said that it would be someone along the lines of Ron Paul, Bob Murphy, somebody like that.
Somebody who's really good at economics.
phil labonte
Bob Murphy is one of the best followers on Twitter.
He's so much fun.
Holy cow.
He's probably the most fun economist that you can find on Twitter.
joshua smith
And we've got to stop the warfare state.
It's disgusting.
It's such a huge part of our budget.
We've got 12% of the population in the United States today can hardly put food on the table.
Like I said, the middle class.
I'm just a blue collar working class guy, right?
Like, I'm just a normal guy like everybody else running for president who might end up on all 50 ballots.
So I understand, like, how these policies affect families because I am a big family raising kids, like, doing everything that everybody else.
I put work boots on every morning.
And so, you know, the warfare state's got to go.
We can't continue to spend all of our citizens tax money on wars that most of them don't support.
unidentified
It's got to be.
hannah claire brimelow
What changes first?
You change culturally first or policy?
I think people also have learned to hate or not want to have family.
joshua smith
The libertarians aren't going to win until we change the culture.
That's just how it's going to be.
We have got to culturally move society in a direction where they understand how bad the Federal Reserve is, how bad the warfare state is, how bad gun legislation is, how bad the drug war is, how bad all these things that have been, you know, the war against the family.
We have to get society to understand that stuff before they'll support a libertarian.
tim pool
Here's one idea.
What if you held an event called, like, Free Cheeseburgers and Why the Fed is Bad Day?
joshua smith
Well, you know, I've been doing that on Break the Cycle twice a week for three years.
There's a lot of stuff, and there's a lot more libertarianism in culture now, too, like people like Phil over here.
You know, a musician, well-known, goes out and talks about libertarian philosophy and stuff, and Air July, and people making comic books, and that's the kind of cultural stuff that we have to do if we're ever going to get to a point where we do get a libertarian elected in office.
shane cashman
When it comes to family stuff, where does your libertarian presidency go with abortion?
joshua smith
Uh, so I'm, so I actually have, I am the only abolitionist candidate running in America today.
I'm the only one who thinks that it is absolutely ill-libertarian to kill your child.
And, and Tim, we're not going to argue about this, but let's, let's, let's jump to this, uh, this story from SCNR.
tim pool
We can talk about it on the morning.
RFK Jr.
suggests abortion should not be regulated by federal or state laws.
And probably one of the most shocking and probably the most extreme position held by any federal politician, RFK Jr.' 's position saying, I mean this is a quote, even at full term,
She said, Kennedy says, I don't think it's ever okay that we should do everything in our power to make sure that never happens, but I ultimately think nobody sets out to do that.
And there are always some kind of extenuating circumstances that would make a mother make that kind of choice, a terrible, terrible choice.
You can't overstate how bad it is.
I think ultimately we have to trust women.
The interviewer says, even full term, to which Kennedy responds, even full term.
Now let's analyze what he said.
Nobody sets out to do that.
My guy.
Murder happens all the time.
And people do set out to do it intentionally because they want to end a life for whatever reason.
What he says in this interview Is basically, there should be zero regulation in any way up to full term.
If a woman decides, just trust her because no one would really do a bad thing like that.
I don't think there's any other federal level politician who's taken that extreme position.
joshua smith
I think mine's the opposite extreme.
phil labonte
That is the most naive position any president has ever... I've heard any president in this... It's insane.
Oh, no one would do that?
joshua smith
It happens all the time.
phil labonte
What are you talking about?
That is childish.
joshua smith
Tim, are you becoming more pro-life in real time right now?
What does that mean?
unidentified
My position is the same as it's always been.
You're pro-life, right?
tim pool
I've never held the position that at any point for any reason a woman can just kill a baby and I've said every single time we've talked about it that elective abortion is wrong.
shane cashman
This is Ralph Northam level.
Like, we'll keep him calm.
tim pool
This is beyond.
shane cashman
It's crazy.
Ralph Northam.
He was saying, yeah.
phil labonte
It's, but no, what it really is is cowardice.
tim pool
There's some regulation in this.
phil labonte
What it is is cowardice.
It's because he's afraid to say anything that would offend the Democrats or the pro-abortion
shane cashman
lobby.
hard in other direction to win them back because they think he's a conspiracy.
phil labonte
I mean, he's unacceptable anyways.
Like he's unacceptable across the board.
All of the stuff that he's that all the things that people like about him are
positions that he's come to in the past two years because of COVID.
That's why I don't trust that is unacceptable.
joshua smith
In 2021, he was still stomping for lockouts for for brain worms.
phil labonte
Get out of here.
joshua smith
Yes.
shane cashman
He's getting out of here.
He's Hollywood Catholic, just like Biden.
He seems like he's crawling out of the womb of liberalism, like in the bad sense liberalism, not good liberalism.
joshua smith
Are we just finding out who the Kennedys are today?
unidentified
Kennedy from the first moment... Well, I like things that some Kennedys have done.
shane cashman
I like JFK saying no to Northwoods.
Yeah, that was good.
There's things that they've done that are nice, but he's also... He didn't make it long after saying no to Northwoods.
I wonder why.
joshua smith
I don't know.
shane cashman
I wonder why.
But, like, he said things I really liked, also, because I think he should understand the CIA and how they operate when it comes to his dad and all that stuff, but he's... I just see him hammering.
tim pool
I want to find that point.
I think it's near the end.
joshua smith
He's a serial cheater, so I wonder if that's why he's pro-abortion, you know?
shane cashman
I mean, he's had a pretty rough life.
unidentified
Even if it's full term.
Even if it's full term.
shane cashman
We should leave it to the woman.
We shouldn't have you guys involved.
unidentified
Even if it's full term?
Even if it's full term.
Fuck.
Okay.
And I think that's what I wanted to clarify because there has to be a...
Right.
So in other words, keeping it as is, with Roe v. Wade having been overturned and leaving it up to the states to determine if and when a woman can have an abortion?
No, I wouldn't leave it to the states.
Right.
No, I would... You would say completely, it's up to the woman?
joshua smith
My belief is we should leave it to the woman.
We shouldn't have government involved.
unidentified
Even if it's full term?
Even if it's full term.
Okay.
And I think that's where, that's what I wanted to clarify because there are especially, uh, people in the middle trying to... Yo, we're, we're... Wow.
joshua smith
Disqualified.
hannah claire brimelow
Male feminists are the worst.
shane cashman
Dude, nothing he says in that preamble leading up to it where he's dancing around the idea, it's all negated by the even full term.
joshua smith
Yes, even full term.
tim pool
This is absolutely insane.
He's like, and we'll just trust women.
Dude, some women deliver their babies and throw it in a dumpster.
joshua smith
A million, a million babies are aborted every year in the United States.
A million.
tim pool
But how many, how many instances, we can look this up per year, how many instances have occurred where women will have a baby and throw it in a dumpster?
joshua smith
Happens a lot.
tim pool
It happens enough to where... In toilets.
In toilets and garbage bags.
There was the, that woman who had the baby and then the mom and her, they killed it or whatever, what was that story?
hannah claire brimelow
And he's like, just trust them.
tim pool
Just trust the women.
Like, dude, look, I don't think the majority of women are set out to murder their babies in these kinds of ways.
I actually think a lot of women would rather not get an abortion, and society's pressuring them in this direction.
That's besides the point.
joshua smith
Yeah, sorry, any presidential candidate that says trust women is automatically disqualified.
tim pool
But if the point is, he's like, well, you know, no one really wants to do this.
I'm like, yo, some guy in New York threw a belt around a woman's neck, dragged her behind a car, and then raped her.
Is that what happened?
shane cashman
Oh, that was crazy.
joshua smith
On video.
It's on video.
tim pool
There are people who do want to do these awful things.
That's what government does.
But hey, I'll give it to this.
It's very libertarian, right?
And I mean this in the most dry sense.
joshua smith
I disagree.
tim pool
In the dry sense of the anti-government word, the government being like, we literally just won't even enforce laws.
hannah claire brimelow
I think one of the important things to note with, you know, the stories you get about like girls who toss their babies in dumpsters or whatever else is they're also part of a culture that says having a kid ruins your life.
It's over after this.
And so I think it's it's crazy that we have this narrative of like, yeah, they're under terrible circumstances.
Quote from RFK when actually the terrible circumstances are like you might not get to go to college, you might have to take on more responsibility at a young age.
It's not common.
It's not the majority of people who have abortions who are really in dire straits.
They have all kinds of issues.
It's a thing that culture has told us you should do because otherwise you have to become responsible.
joshua smith
There's another part in this interview as well that's not being talked about here.
And this is the funny part.
He says he's for full-term abortions.
He's for full-term abortions.
But we need to make it so that women feel like they don't have to make abortions.
So he's also talking about using more taxpayer money for more services to take care of women.
Also saying that women should be able to commit baby murder up through full-term.
That's how I look at it.
I don't mince words on this anymore.
I'm done.
I'm done with it.
shane cashman
I don't do it anymore.
joshua smith
Yeah, that's even better maybe.
I'm the only abolition candidate running in the United States today.
tim pool
So you're too close to the mic and you're too far away.
unidentified
I'm going to start streaming human sacrifice right now.
joshua smith
Because it's loud in mine and so I'm trying to keep up, that's why.
hannah claire brimelow
They don't even know what they're doing right now.
joshua smith
I'll take one off, it'll be better that way.
hannah claire brimelow
No I mean I think there is this policy issue of like on what level of government do you regulate this but I also think the cultural issue of like we have raised generations especially of women to look at children and families as this negative burden that is you know going to make them have to do all these things they don't want to do or whatever else and for the most part it's inaccurate it doesn't really represent how people want to live but it also creates this negative hostility that makes I just hate that abortion is the woman's issue.
I think women have a lot of interest, I think they have a lot of things that could change their life, and they have boiled it down to like, but if you aren't allowed to get rid of your baby, your life is over.
tim pool
Real quick, I just gotta give a shout out to Old Sticky Ketane, super chat.
He said, his brain worm died.
Poor guy starved to death.
phil labonte
So, Hannah-Claire, you said abortion is a women's issue?
hannah claire brimelow
They made it the women's issue.
phil labonte
I have very good news for you.
The issue is never the issue.
The issue is always the revolution.
hannah claire brimelow
That's true, but this is how they're selling it to women to join the revolution, right?
phil labonte
For the moment, because remember, they threw women under the bus as soon as the women with the penises showed up.
hannah claire brimelow
And the women welcome these women.
tim pool
It's crazy to me.
I love this narrative where it's like, don't be Republican.
What if you need to kill your baby?
And they're like, that's a good point.
joshua smith
I can't be Republican.
I have to be able to kill my progeny.
I think it's disgusting.
hannah claire brimelow
It's the same group of culture that is like, you should 100% freeze your eggs because what if you want it to work until you're 45?
Also, what if you accidentally get pregnant and then you should have to be able to get rid of that baby?
tim pool
I got it.
hannah claire brimelow
What is it here, team?
tim pool
I solved it.
Okay, if a woman wants to get an abortion, you just take the baby out and freeze it.
There you go.
You can freeze it for a later date.
hannah claire brimelow
People do that.
They'll, like, conceive children and they put them on ice.
I mean, that's part of IVF sometimes.
tim pool
You can take a baby out of a woman and put it on ice.
hannah claire brimelow
Not a full-born baby, but, like, it conceives.
shane cashman
Fertilized eggs.
tim pool
The baby's being born and she's like, can I freeze it?
joshua smith
And usually that's used for people that are... IVF is typically used for people that have problems giving birth.
tim pool
I'm saying, like, a woman walks in the clinic and she's like, hey, I'm four weeks pregnant.
They'll be like, we will take that thing out and we'll put it in a freezer.
shane cashman
In 1956, they were freezing hamsters for like, I think an hour, and then microwaving them.
And bringing them back to life, resuscitating them.
tim pool
With a microwave?
joshua smith
Yeah.
It's almost like a radiator.
shane cashman
Look it up.
It's a microwave.
It might be a special microwave, but I'm calling it a microwave.
tim pool
So, uh, the frogs out here, those little frogs are called spring peepers.
unidentified
Are they gay?
tim pool
Are they gay frogs?
No, they're based.
shane cashman
Oh, we got good water here, dude.
joshua smith
Oh, you guys got the, you got based frogs?
unidentified
Yeah!
tim pool
Spring peepers, dude.
These are little one-inch frogs, and they scream really loud.
unidentified
Oh, jeez.
tim pool
They're basically yelling at the ladies.
But they have super high glucose in their blood, so they don't freeze.
They just slow down and then don't move, and then when it gets warm, they just come right back.
joshua smith
Wow.
That's pretty wild.
tim pool
That's based.
unidentified
How do we change the... So, I don't think that... We gotta put the sugar in the baby when it's born, and then put it in the freezer.
hannah claire brimelow
Put it in the freezer.
And a microwave.
shane cashman
I think it's gonna be impossible to change abortion from the top down, although I think we need to get rid of...
Human sacrifice?
I think we need to do it, but I don't know if it's going to fix everything overnight.
Like, how do you do the cultural from the bottom up?
joshua smith
I look at the government.
Look, so as a libertarian, I think the only libertarian position is that if a government must exist, it has to exist to protect the life and rights of its citizens.
That's it.
I mean, that's what the government should do.
And the right to life extends to all people, including the unborn child.
So like, a government should say that it should be illegal to murder.
shane cashman
Period.
tim pool
I agree with you.
shane cashman
I feel like outlawing it, which I agree with, will cause deranged people to do it more in other ways.
joshua smith
It should be dangerous.
tim pool
Let me ask you a couple questions.
Let's say there's a person, and they're riding their bike, and then another person riding his bike jumps off the back of a tow truck, does a sick flip and tail whip, and then as he's landing, the tail of the bike hits the other guy in the head, knocking him down to the ground, hits his head again, and
then they bring him to the hospital, and this guy is...
His brain is gone. He's brain dead. Just lying there. Do you think the law should mandate that person be kept alive?
joshua smith
I think that... man, that's a tough one.
Uh, no, I don't think the law should mandate that person be kept alive because they have no, uh, they have zero life left.
I mean, it's, their life is gone.
Once you're, once your brain is, once your brain dead, I mean, technically you're almost legally dead at that point anyways.
tim pool
It's like the Terry Schiavo thing.
Right.
A person's in a coma with a feeding tube and they're like, we don't think this person is
here anymore, we don't think they can come back from this.
joshua smith
Yeah, I think at that point your family should decide how much suffering they're willing
to let you do.
But when it's a baby that's not suffering, that's a new life being born.
There's a complete, this is an apple and orange argument.
tim pool
I disagree.
The issue with people who are comatose is the doctors don't really know for certain.
I mean, there's certainly circumstances where they're like, yo, this guy, his brain is jello.
But there are a lot of circumstances where people have been said- There's not a lot, it's very rare.
joshua smith
When people are brain dead in comas like that, it's very rare they come back.
tim pool
But it's also not uncommon for doctors to be wrong.
unidentified
Well yeah, that's one of the biggest causes of death in the United States.
tim pool
It absolutely is a malpractice.
So the issue then becomes do you trust the doctor when he's giving medical advice saying this person is no longer with us and then you run into a similar problem with abortion where there are many women who say the doctor told them your kid is not viable it will die you need an abortion and then they said you're wrong and they had the kid and the kid's healthy and twenty years old.
So the challenge I see there is Giving discretion to end life.
Now, with someone who's an adult, or older, or any capacity, like a teenager, whatever, they end up dependent upon a machine to live.
Someone's gotta pay for that, resources have to come from somewhere, that's a challenge.
With a woman who's pregnant, her body is already sustaining the baby.
So as long as she's eating and living, the baby is going to grow and be nurtured.
I just think there is a similarity there.
therein, at what point do we allow a medical practitioner or a state to determine that
a life can be ended?
joshua smith
Well, first of all, I want to start this off saying that like 1% of abortions in the United
States are medically necessary.
So we're talking like 99% of abortions in the United States today are not medically
necessary.
That baby would thrive and grow and be a human.
tim pool
They're elective.
joshua smith
There's a huge, and I'm going to keep saying it's apples and oranges because it's a completely different argument.
We're talking about somebody who is brain dead, in a coma, cannot support their life anymore.
tim pool
No, you're exaggerating the position.
A person who is in a coma and presumed brain dead could recover.
Should a doctor, a man, a fallible man say, we can pull the plug.
I hereby determine in my expertise as a doctor, I think he can't recover.
And then we're supposed to take his word for it.
That's the issue.
joshua smith
How is that the same as knowing that a baby is growing and gonna grow up to be a human being and a doctor saying this person is brain-dead?
tim pool
Well, you're making a probabilistic argument.
The baby likely will not suffer a traumatic brain injury during birth.
The baby will likely have a fully functioning brain and no disabilities.
The baby will likely not... There are babies that are born brain-dead.
There are babies, there was actually a baby that was born without a brain.
joshua smith
Yeah, there's babies born with all kinds of different birth defects for sure.
That's also not the norm.
tim pool
So you're making a probabilistic argument.
joshua smith
But the norm for people that are brain dead, they are dead.
tim pool
Right, so again, you're exaggerating the position.
I'm saying there's a person who is, by all appearances, comatose, and the doctor says this person will not recover.
I'm not saying that there's no... I'm saying there's a chance... We don't know.
The person could recover.
It's happened.
unidentified
Sure.
tim pool
So, the question then becomes, and by all means, hold the position that's probabilistic.
Fine.
If there is a 10% chance the person recovers, do we say you can't kill them?
joshua smith
If it's a .001% chance, do we say... Well, I certainly wouldn't say that we should kill somebody with a 99% chance of survival, like we would with 99% of the babies that are aborted.
tim pool
Right, but if it's a 99% chance of death, you're okay with it.
joshua smith
I mean, if there's a 99% chance that a medical professional is telling you this person is never going to come back, and there's 1%, at that point it's got to be up to the family to decide.
tim pool
So then how would you deal with, when it comes to abortion law, a doctor just going, you want to get an abortion?
I hereby sign this baby as a 99% death- chance of death, so...
We're good.
Doctor says so.
Kill the baby.
joshua smith
Doesn't that sound like a medical malpractice suit waiting to happen, plus a murder charge, in my opinion?
tim pool
Oh, sure.
joshua smith
They'll find ways to prove it.
I mean, if you make it a mandate, like to where these doctors have to go to jail for performing abortions, there's going to be ways to prove it.
I mean, it's got to be a criminal justice thing.
We prosecute murderers.
Look, anybody can murder today, right now, right?
We prosecute murderers.
tim pool
Yeah, the idea that a doctor could make a mistake and then you're going to find intent on that.
The issue becomes, like many people have said, the issue with no-fault divorce.
I've said no-fault divorce is bad.
The response is, without no-fault divorce, women will falsely accuse their husbands of rape and how do you deal with that?
joshua smith
Women already do that.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
That's right.
joshua smith
Even with no-fault divorce.
tim pool
And it'll get substantially worse.
I don't think that's an argument.
I think we should still get rid of no-fault divorce.
If you don't wanna get married, don't get married.
But the issue then is, not that it's the majority position, not that you shouldn't ban abortion.
I'm saying, simple question, how do you deal with doctors who lie?
Is it we try to investigate them?
I think the reality is, if you say a doctor can give, medically necessary abortions will always be permitted.
Like, look, the baby's gonna die and you're gonna die.
Doctor says so.
joshua smith
I think only if a woman's gonna die. I think that's the cutoff point.
To me, that's the abolitionist. And that's, you know, it has to be proven.
tim pool
Not if the baby's gonna die?
joshua smith
I mean, the doctors say that the babies aren't gonna survive all the time, and they do.
So why would we risk it, risk murdering somebody just because there's a chance
they might not make it? I mean, that's just, that's insane.
That's an insane...
If we really get to the crux of this argument in the United States today about this thing, it's really disgusting.
It's really disgusting to think about the fact that we treat unborn children as completely expendable.
Completely expendable in the United States today.
So if a woman is pregnant and the baby has no brain, If the baby has no brain, I mean, if the baby's developing with no brain, then the baby's not alive.
I mean, that's just the truth of the matter.
unidentified
No lungs.
joshua smith
The baby's not alive.
tim pool
The baby's got no lungs.
joshua smith
The baby's not alive.
You don't survive without lungs.
tim pool
Okay, so now we're getting to it.
So you are saying there are many circumstances in which a doctor's orders could result in abortion of the baby.
joshua smith
I don't, I mean, yeah, if the baby's, if the baby's an ectopic pregnancy that, I mean, you're going to know that within, What, six weeks?
tim pool
Eight weeks max?
This is literally what I'm asking.
joshua smith
But here's the thing.
We're throwing up all these different hypotheticals.
The fact of the matter is that 99% of abortions are elected.
They're elected.
So we're talking a million babies a year.
99% of those are elective abortions where there was nothing wrong with the baby.
Their mother wasn't going to die.
There wasn't even rape or incest or whatever it is that the left throws at you when you say that a murder should be illegal.
So we're talking about hypotheticals.
tim pool
So you ban it?
joshua smith
I would ban it, yes, absolutely.
I'm the only abolition candidate running today in the United States because I think that murder is wrong and it should stay wrong.
tim pool
And we need a society... And no exemptions?
Or some exemptions?
What's the exemptions for the life of the baby?
joshua smith
If it's going to kill the mother, then it should be medically necessary.
tim pool
Nothing on the baby?
joshua smith
Nothing else.
tim pool
Nothing else.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
So there are scenarios where like a baby will have no heart or something like this.
It'll be developing improperly.
joshua smith
You're going to know that.
I mean, there might be some medical necessity where, you know, cause first of all, if a baby's forming with, you know, you're basically taking Louisiana's position.
It's got to be fool, it's got to be provably medically necessary.
Otherwise we're murdering people.
I mean that's really the truth of the situation in the United States today is we're murdering Unborn babies.
Every day, a million.
A million a year.
That's gotta stop.
And if we don't have somebody who's gonna stand up and denormalize this practice, and so we can get into all the hypotheticals you want.
That's fine.
But the truth of the matter is that 99% of the babies murdered in the United States today are perfectly fine healthy babies.
tim pool
This is what I find frustrating.
I get it.
You can say it a million times.
I'm trying to understand what is the practical application of a law you would make.
What does it do?
How does it affect society?
Just saying abortion is bad, we want to get rid of it.
Totally agree.
Totally get it.
joshua smith
You do agree.
You agree that we should get rid of abortion.
tim pool
I like that abortions are bad.
I've said it all the time.
joshua smith
I thought you were more pro-choice than that before.
tim pool
Yeah, the issue being that in the case of rape and incest, I think where we would be, regardless of my opinion on what you should or shouldn't allow someone to do, is that the 14th Amendment would require a judge to sign off on every abortion.
That is not what I think society should be doing, but that is what the Constitution dictates.
joshua smith
We don't typically punish the children of criminals by death either, so that's something that we need to think about in society as well when we're talking about exceptions.
We don't typically punish the children of criminals.
tim pool
The 14th Amendment needs to be, the Supreme Court needs to answer this, are the unborn persons.
joshua smith
Right.
tim pool
Because it draws a distinction between what a citizen and what a person is under the Constitution, and that persons cannot have their life, liberty, or property taken or hindered without due process.
joshua smith
Do you get a double homicide if you kill a pregnant woman?
Depends on the state.
tim pool
If that's the case, then, the unborn have personhood, and a judge will have to sign off on the approval of an abortion.
And that's the 14th Amendment.
I believe the 14th Amendment, interpreted properly, would ban abortion in almost all circumstances.
Here's what I don't like about conservatives, is that they say, rape and incest.
And I say, why is incest banned?
A rape, I get.
You're making an argument about a woman who did not consent to give her body in the government being restricted on whether it can force that woman to give her body to someone else.
But incest?
Like, if a brother and a sister have a kid, I mean, it's gross and it's bad for a lot of reasons.
joshua smith
It's degenerate as hell.
hannah claire brimelow
But do you sentence the baby of incest to death?
A baby born of incest would have all kinds of health issues.
tim pool
Not an argument.
hannah claire brimelow
I'm not saying I agree.
I just heard that as presented.
tim pool
When the conservatives say rape and incest, I'm saying the incest thing has no moral argument other than icky.
There's negative consequences, dramatic negative consequences to incest.
But if we're talking about two consenting siblings, which I think is a bad thing, And they have a baby, why make an exception to kill that baby in the circumstances, irrespective of its medical conditions?
If the argument is, if the baby is suffering from severe deformity, it opens the door to it, well then we have a medical argument.
But if the issue is the baby appears to be healthy in every way, but it's an incest baby, so kill it, that doesn't make sense.
joshua smith
Here's my last point on this, because I know you and I like to argue this every time I come here.
It's usually on the Members Only show, but here's my last point on this, is that, you know, We we let the left throw these the same the same hypotheticals that other people bring up to the rape the incest the medical necessity We're talking about less than 1% of those abortions.
We let the left beat us on these issues with 1% Hypothetical okay, we let the left beat us on these issues.
We've got to stand strong in these we got to stop mincing words We got to lose not lose the war on language and it's the only way to do that is to call it what it is It's baby murder, and it's become normalized in the United States, and we've got to stop it I I'm actually really surprised.
tim pool
A lot of people in the chat are pro-choice.
joshua smith
Oh, I'm sure.
I'm sure.
There's probably libertarians watching.
tim pool
They're saying I'm wrong, and if a baby is conceived of incest, it should be aborted.
There should be an exception to kill it.
Yeah, well, those people are wrong.
If a baby is conceived of incest, you shouldn't kill it, right?
shane cashman
I don't think you should kill it.
joshua smith
I don't think you should kill babies at all.
I don't think I've gotten any clear.
I don't think I can be any clearer.
I don't think babies should be murdered.
hannah claire brimelow
I honestly think the incest question will become more prevalent over the next couple of decades because there are so many cases of sperm donors who are like, you know, you hear these cases of like fertility doctors who use their sperm and suddenly they're like, I have 500 siblings and we actually all grew up in the same state.
Like, I wonder if this will be something we confront as a society.
tim pool
I think the thing that I find frustrating with the abortion issue is that I typically find a lot of people are unwilling to state their actual opinions on how to do it because there's no – it is the moral equivalent of like a gigantic spear.
There's no fence.
There's no dead man's land.
There's no middle ground.
There's no compromise.
There is either the abortion side or the no-abortion side.
And so there's a lot of people in politics... We had one guy on the show who refused to say abortion was murder.
Pro-life guy.
Because he's worried about the... Optics.
Right.
Of what it's going to be when people see him say that.
How it affects him politically.
joshua smith
Yeah, that's the same thing.
Listen, this is, you know, when Donald Trump came out with this kind of wishy-washy... I know, Carey Lake did it too.
Yeah, they all came out with these wishy-washy things and then all of a sudden the Republicans were like, well, it's an issue we can't win on.
And I said very clearly too, look, if you care...
tim pool
I'm sorry, the chat is very adamant.
shane cashman
It says a lot about the culture.
tim pool
Pro-life people are saying if babies are conceived of incest, they should be aborted.
joshua smith
Listen, listen to me.
If you're going to be wishy-washy on this issue because you think you can't win on this issue, then you don't deserve to win.
I'm sorry.
If you're running for a government position and you can't win on protecting unborn lives, Then you shouldn't win.
I'm sorry, you should lose.
shane cashman
I mean, it's ridiculous to me that Trump and Carrie Lake are now just saying safe, legal, and rare in a new 2024 way.
joshua smith
It's like they're parroting the left.
We're losing that war because we keep compromising on these issues.
shane cashman
This is what I think though, like, no offense to all the politicians, but like, nothing's going to fix it.
Because this has to be a cultural thing.
Because we're dealing with a cult of nihilism.
joshua smith
And you can't win the culture war if you mince your words and start saying the same narrative as your opponents.
shane cashman
Yeah.
unidentified
It's not going to work.
shane cashman
It's going to have to come from the bottom up.
tim pool
The chat's getting really mad because I'm reading, and I said, why is there an exception?
Why do conservatives have an exception for incest?
And they're all saying, Tim, you're wrong.
You're wrong about this position.
And I'm like, okay, so you're saying that babies of incest should be aborted or could be aborted?
And I'm like, no, no, we're not saying that at all.
It's like, I know not each individual is saying things, but like, overwhelmingly, people are saying, I am wrong to suggest that when, like, I've heard Ben Shapiro talk about it.
Abortion exceptions for rape and incest.
And I'm like, why incest?
Like I get it, incest is very bad.
joshua smith
I'm not going to make a Ben Shapiro joke, that's right.
I'm not going to make a Ben Shapiro and his sister joke, I'm not going to do it.
tim pool
I do think too, outside of this, let's just move into general politics for libertarianism and otherwise, is a lot of people just want to assert a moral position they haven't thought about, or they hold moral positions without logic.
And so if, you know, I'm trying to look at a law and understand the logic behind it and why it makes sense, because two pieces have to fit together, that's important for how the Supreme Court answers things.
For example, in the oral arguments on presidential immunity, one of the things that Trump's lawyers were arguing is that you must interpret it this way, because if you don't, Here's a list of laws that will break if you change the interpretation of immunity.
And the general concept idea is arguing one facet of law or code or anything like that could have negative impacts across the board in all of the other written law.
So that's why the logic of the law makes sense and the application of it and its nuances are extremely important to break down.
But a lot of people will be like, you shouldn't be allowed to do this thing.
And I say, okay, if you ban this, then over here, this law breaks.
So like, what do you do in this instance?
And there are a lot of people who don't actually have a logic plan for this.
shane cashman
It's what Thomas Sowell says, though.
There's no solutions, only trade-offs.
joshua smith
What exemptions do we make for murder?
tim pool
Self-defense?
joshua smith
Correct.
tim pool
Defense of yourself and defense of others?
joshua smith
Sure.
tim pool
And war.
joshua smith
So we should make those same exceptions for baby murder.
If you're gonna die, or you're in grave bodily danger, then there should be an exception.
If not, it's murder.
tim pool
Well, that's interesting, too, because here's a scenario for you.
A guy is... How can we break this down?
A guy is driving a self-driving car.
And the car goes out of control.
Oh, actually I got a better, a real world example.
A guy was driving a car, this actually happened, and the car randomly accelerated.
There was a defect with certain vehicles where the accelerator would just punch it.
And he rear-ended a family and killed three of the family members.
They put him in prison.
Someone's driving a car and the car goes out of control.
You as a bystander are seeing the car move towards an old lady.
Do you think it is legally permissible to kill the man in the car?
joshua smith
The only way to stop him is to, you know, do something that will cause... This is an old argument brought up by Walter Block a long time ago, by the way.
tim pool
So, the reason I'm mentioning is that you said the self-defense for the life... to defend the life of a person or... right?
To defend yourself or the life of another person.
joshua smith
Do you have the right to kill an innocent person to protect other people?
It's the... I mean, it's the trolley car problem, right?
tim pool
It's the same... Well, I don't know... I don't think innocent person is the right word.
joshua smith
I'm saying If he's in a car that malfunctioned, it's an accident and he's an innocent person.
tim pool
So someone accidentally drops something and it's about to kill somebody and the only way you can save the other person is to kill the person who was involved in the accident, right?
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
The car is out of control, he doesn't know what he's doing, he's not intentionally trying to kill someone, is it still self-defense to kill that person Even though there's no murdering?
joshua smith
Problems not because you're still killing an innocent person now if that if the people in the other car were my
family I'm probably gonna do it right just like you would murder
somebody to protect your family But but this is this is getting totally to the trolley car
Conundrum right like where do I have the right to kill the one person to save the five people Jack Bauer? Yeah,
exactly And no, you don't.
Morally, you don't have the right to kill an innocent person even if you think it's going to save other lives.
And now we're getting into World War II territory and the atomic bombs, which has also been an argument for a long time.
Another thing I don't agree with.
Yeah, so like, no, you don't.
You don't have the right to kill innocent people morally.
tim pool
So then the exception for abortion there does not apply.
joshua smith
Right.
tim pool
So if the baby is not intending is an innocent person not intending to kill the mother why kill the baby at that point?
joshua smith
You have to so so there there's first of all, there's a solution.
Okay, and the mother has to take precedence at that point.
I mean the fully formed adult and when you're like We're talking about two different things here, right?
Like one's an accident and one is unavoidable.
Someone's gonna die no matter what, right?
And you have an egg or a fetus, right?
Depending on what stage it's in.
And you have a fully formed mother with a family and all this stuff.
I mean, you have to make a sad decision at that point.
This is not an elect... And again, we're talking about less than 1% of abortions in the United States.
tim pool
Right, but we're trying to answer... You're trying to hash out the moral logic of how we enforce laws.
joshua smith
But at that point, you have to choose.
I mean, you have to, right?
One of them's going to die or they're both going to die.
tim pool
So, equal scenario, the same scenario I mentioned, a guy's car is out of control.
If he crashes, he and the woman will die.
joshua smith
Sure.
tim pool
You can divert the car, the car will explode and only the man will die.
You say you divert the car.
joshua smith
I mean, you might have to, yeah.
tim pool
If it's a foregone conclusion that they'll both die either way.
joshua smith
But there's also a chance that you go to jail for murdering an innocent person.
I mean, that's truth.
But you're trying to interact with a situation to save lives.
I get that.
And there's so many different hypotheticals that we're talking about right now.
But at the end of the day, again, I want to reiterate it, 99% of baby murders are elective.
tim pool
You know what's fascinating about the trolley problem is that I just totally lost my train of thought.
I had a really great point, uh, about it.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Here we are again.
Okay.
What's fascinating about the trolley problem is most people, uh, what was it?
Most people say they would not pull the lever.
joshua smith
Right.
tim pool
Yeah.
I don't think we actually get to the heart of the trolley problem without telling people they have legal liabilities.
joshua smith
Right.
tim pool
I think you tell someone, a trolley is heading on a track, it will run over five people.
joshua smith
Yeah.
tim pool
If you pull the lever, you'll save the five people and it'll run over that one person.
joshua smith
Right.
tim pool
And you'll also go to prison for murder.
shane cashman
Right.
Be like, what state is this trolley in?
tim pool
As of right now, I posted a poll.
unidentified
The poll in the chat is, should people be allowed to abort incest babies?
39% yes, 61% no.
joshua smith
Let's get into the hypotheticals. I like it. Yeah, dude.
There we go. Let's bring up some more hypotheticals for sure.
Alright, let's stop talking about it.
tim pool
As of right now, it's uh...
I posted a poll.
The poll in the chat is, should people be allowed to abort incest babies?
39% yes, 61% no.
joshua smith
We're winning, boys. We're winning.
I like it.
shane cashman
Look, incest is disgusting, but I think every life is a blessing.
joshua smith
If you're committing that kind of degeneracy, you really need to reevaluate your life anyways.
tim pool
But I think this kind of breaks it down when you've got people in the chat that are saying you should be allowed to abort incest babies.
That's what I was pointing to.
I'm not saying everybody in the chat agrees.
Now it's 40 to 60.
40% now believe incest babies should be aborted.
Should be allowed to be aborted.
joshua smith
40 people that support baby murder, that's pretty rough.
unidentified
40%.
joshua smith
That's what I said, 40%.
tim pool
So it's actually 400 because there's 1,024 votes.
Yeah, that's unfortunate.
shane cashman
I think it's just a cultural thing.
It's hard to divorce people from the idea of abortion.
That's why I've been training myself to just call it human sacrifice.
joshua smith
I'm going to adopt that.
shane cashman
Because I feel like, and I say that because it happens on such a high level all the time.
tim pool
There's people celebrating that the no's are winning so I'm going to word, I'm going to make a new poll that words it in a way that I can just decide what it means, like how pollsters do it.
So we're at, uh, well, here we go.
You see the, uh, the no's aren't having it.
So now we're up to 1400 votes and rising, and now, uh, no is at 64%.
There we go.
So the people who do not like abortion are now deciding to step up and hit that, that pull button.
joshua smith
See, now we can win on this issue.
shane cashman
That's why you have to have these conversations as crazy as they might be and hard for people to listen to.
joshua smith
You have to have these conversations.
shane cashman
You have to have these conversations.
joshua smith
Because there's a lot of people out there that that believe the same thing that I believe and if we...
phil labonte
You are not gonna win on this one.
joshua smith
We're gonna win on this issue.
shane cashman
Death penalty.
tim pool
Dude, it's gonna happen.
Death penalty.
joshua smith
What's your position?
I'm not for the states handing down capital punishment like that.
Hear hear.
shane cashman
Yeah.
joshua smith
The states shouldn't have that right.
I think that they get it wrong too many times and there's an issue there.
One wrong death.
And we brought up Kamala Harris in the beginning and I really wanted to say, you know, she kept someone on death row even though she had the evidence that could have exonerated him.
And that's your vice president.
tim pool
This is what I always tell people who are pro-death penalty.
I'm like, it's because, look...
that you know a lot of conservatives are are in favor the death penalty and
they'll say there are child rapists out there and we know they did it i'm like
i totally get that i totally get it the problem is it's kamala harris who's
trying to convince me of that it's it's it's like it's not it's not
my brother coming to me be like dude trust me man this guy's bad news we got
to do something about this it's kamala harris and every single
phil labonte
prosecution has a political element because da's don't want to lose like
There is a motivation to win that goes beyond just finding out if the person is actually guilty or innocent.
hannah claire brimelow
If you're making a career on whether or not someone dies, it's rough.
phil labonte
If you have a motivation, then that inherently kind of makes the state not Not unbiased.
joshua smith
Well, here, I'll tell you this.
I'm all for families getting retribution against people that have harmed their children or whatever.
So, um, you know, and then if, and then if afterwards they find that that person was not the right person, then that family member needs to take accountability for their murder of an innocent person.
You know what I mean?
But I, I am not, I'm not, I think that families that, uh, exact their own punishment or revenge against people that have harmed them, uh, should not be held liable.
If that makes sense.
hannah claire brimelow
I think the death penalty is a really complicated issue because if you have someone, you know, let's say it's a perfect case.
Confess, you can confirm with DNA, it's all there and then we just pay for them to be alive for decades like the taxpayers are then paying for this person's life.
joshua smith
And that's why I said make Australia a penal colony once again, okay?
tim pool
And New Zealand can be where they manage it.
joshua smith
Yes, it's time to, we need to go back in and take over Australia and turn it into a penal colony.
tim pool
To be fair, You look at what they did during COVID and you're like, maybe they still are.
hannah claire brimelow
There's a reason they went that direction.
It's in their history.
It's in their genes.
joshua smith
But I really actually believe this and maybe not Australia, but I believe this is what, instead of the death penalty and instead of using taxpayer funds to keep people in jail for 50 years, we should have a penal colony and be like, you're a pedophile or a murderer or a rapist or whatever.
You go live there.
Goodbye.
And that's what we should be doing.
hannah claire brimelow
We need our own Siberia.
Interesting.
joshua smith
Correct.
It's Siberia.
Somewhere preferably that cold.
tim pool
I've been to Alaska, and it is very empty.
Yeah.
And there's a big opportunity for sending all of the federal employees there, because it'll start terraforming the region.
joshua smith
We talked about this a lot on the show.
tim pool
Yeah, and the Alaskans were like, no!
joshua smith
And my Alaskan friend was like, please don't do that.
If you somehow win in 2024.
shane cashman
We already have HAARP.
We don't need any other problems.
joshua smith
It's hard enough here on us already.
Just let us keep our little oils tight and leave us alone.
tim pool
I have successfully created a poll that allows me to give any answer I want to the abortion question.
hannah claire brimelow
What's your question?
unidentified
How do you say this?
tim pool
Should incest babies be exempted from abortion law?
joshua smith
Oh, jeez, nobody's gonna know how to answer that.
unidentified
It's 50-50.
joshua smith
Yeah, everybody's like, uh, what?
What?
tim pool
Well, the point is, the abortion law is a vague, it's a nebulous statement.
It's meaningless.
The abortion law could be for or against abortion.
joshua smith
We've done an hour on abortion now.
tim pool
It's at 54 to no, they should not be exempted from it.
joshua smith
I'm happy that we've done an hour on abortion, you know why?
Because we get to talk about it.
tim pool
It's actually been 16 minutes.
joshua smith
Has it only been 16 weeks?
We started talking about abortion?
tim pool
No way.
I have a timer.
shane cashman
You have an abortion timer?
tim pool
I have a timer for when segments start and end.
Oh, smart.
We track them, write them down, that's how we make the segments.
We actually shifted into a death penalty segment.
joshua smith
All these trade secrets to me.
tim pool
I'm not compromising.
And we're actually, we actually shifted into a death penalty segment.
joshua smith
Yeah, we did shift into the death penalty.
That's true.
That's true, yeah.
If you're going to be pro-life, you've got to be pro-life, right?
Across the board.
Whenever somebody's like, oh, I'm pro-life, I'm like, are you anti-war?
And they're like, no.
shane cashman
I'm like, I'm pro-life, but I love bombs and war.
joshua smith
I like bombs and innocent dead children across the world.
shane cashman
Children everywhere else.
It's whatever.
No big deal.
Not for me.
joshua smith
Anti-war, anti-death penalty.
But I'm all for a penal colony, for sure.
tim pool
We've got to talk about the solar flare.
We've got ten minutes for Super Chats and we haven't even got into the fact that the world's going to end tonight and we're laughing like morons.
phil labonte
There are already significantly impressive pictures of auroras hitting Twitter.
They're all over the place.
shane cashman
We can see them outside right now.
tim pool
They might be so strong that you can see them through the clouds.
So what are these Shane?
Really you might be they might be so strong that you can see them through the clouds space really
hannah claire brimelow
So what are these Shane tell me well harp is?
shane cashman
Attacking me directly I think You're a little narcissistic!
tim pool
It's about you. Yeah, that's posted. Oh, yeah every day.
shane cashman
Yeah, not stop that guy that guy makes great pizzas. Um Okay, cannibal is the word of the year has anyone noticed
this like it's funny to me that the solar problem is now the cannibal
Thing we had we had the cannibal got the barbecue in Haiti.
We had That one actor like a year or two ago who was a cannibal
supposedly When I was in Vegas a man ate someone's face at the 7-eleven
down the road. I'll bath salt. Yeah, I don't even know I think he was just hungry.
I don't know if it was bath salts.
And now the sun's a cannibal.
joshua smith
Let me tell you, I know.
My Costco bill went from $800 a month to about $1,200 a month.
hannah claire brimelow
But that's because you have like a baseball team.
joshua smith
Yeah, but can you imagine inflation on a family like mine right now?
shane cashman
It's killing us.
I don't know what's going on with this.
It's crazy, because it could do some damage, but it might just be another eclipse.
joshua smith
We're just a couple of months out from an election, okay?
They need some kind of wild thing to point to, right?
Look, we're laughing at the COVID regime now, right?
We're all laughing at it.
We're like, we're definitely not falling for this again.
So the Netspec thing is turn off all the internet.
shane cashman
Well, they've been talking about the internet apocalypse for a year and they've been connecting it to solar flares,
which I don't think I from what I've heard from other people who hit me up
about this That's not really the case with solar flares. It might
actually take out ham radios first Yeah, but that's according to people who say they know
phil labonte
stuff take your in Hey, if you've got it if you got like ham radios and stuff
just can just can disconnect your antennas So that way they're not you know
Here's the crazy antennas are antennas and wires and cables and stuff or what actually can conduct the electricity and
joshua smith
stuff So you have a radio runs on the same technology as 5g
It was like the original 5G.
tim pool
Are you sure though?
joshua smith
Yeah, pretty sure.
tim pool
Because I'm pretty sure 5G is a super high frequency.
Well, ham is a low frequency.
I thought ham was low and 5G is high.
phil labonte
Ham is UHF and VHF, which are varying ultra-high frequencies.
tim pool
Yeah, 5G frequencies are super compact to contain a lot of data.
joshua smith
Don't quote me, but I'm pretty sure that they have a very similar technology.
hannah claire brimelow
Welcome to Science Fridays on IRL!
shane cashman
Mystery Science Theater.
phil labonte
They're all just, they're all actually the same technology except for the... It's all the same.
hannah claire brimelow
Especially when you don't understand it.
joshua smith
It's just rebranded.
hannah claire brimelow
It's all magic.
phil labonte
It's just rebranded magnetic waves, you know?
hannah claire brimelow
And then Harry Potter just shoots around in the air.
unidentified
So, Ham Radio is 1.6 MHz to 1240 MHz.
tim pool
So, uh, Ham Radio is 1.6 MHz to 1240 MHz.
5G is 450 MHz to 6 GHz.
joshua smith
It goes higher.
shane cashman
We can go back to harp frying the ionosphere.
joshua smith
But there's an overlap.
shane cashman
With its hertz, with its frequencies.
And I think, I just think harp is a problem.
I think when you play God with machines.
phil labonte
What is it?
What is harp?
tim pool
It's bouncing radio waves off the ionosphere?
shane cashman
Yeah, which does, I think, and I've talked to people who believe this as well, who know things, Hannah Clare.
about uh, about cryptochromes. Cryptochromes in birds eyes, migratory birds eyes, they've been affected by problems
with their ionosphere.
I think personally that HAARP is messing with that, like look at um, messing with the clouds in Dubai what happened.
I think when you play God, it doesn't go well.
Oh that's wild.
tim pool
It doesn't go well.
So, so this is like, there's a bunch of news stories saying it's debunked, but Dubai did a cloud seeding operation,
which they do normally.
It's, what is it, potassium chloride or something?
They drop in the sky, which basically adds weight to the water molecules and then they fall.
And then they had mass flooding.
And I think it was Bloomberg that reported Cloud seeding contributes to the mass flooding, causing a disaster.
And then a day later, all these corporate press outlets are like, no, no, debunked, didn't happen.
shane cashman
Shills for big cloud.
If you know anything about big cloud, there's Shills.
But I won't get started on that.
But I'm just saying, when you mess around with stuff like this, and it's just interesting to me that they called it harp, which angels in the Bible don't play the harp.
But people do associate angels with harps, probably because Greek mythology and a lot of those types of angelic figures were playing harps.
They shouldn't be messing around with Dionysphere.
joshua smith
I don't know if that's crazy or the particle.
shane cashman
Dude, don't get me started on CERN.
If you want to hear more about this, Inverted World Live will be this Sunday.
joshua smith
These are the things that concern me.
shane cashman
These are the things that concern me.
joshua smith
I would love to come talk about that stuff.
shane cashman
Because it's all messing, I think.
There were actual lawsuits about CERN.
joshua smith
There was a whole conspiracy theory that the world ended in 2012 and we're all living in purgatory right now.
That's why the whole thing is different.
That's why they're having the Mandela effect.
shane cashman
Last time CERN was supposedly blasting particles, Shinzo Abe was assassinated and that same week the Guidestones were blown up.
tim pool
That is also wild, too.
The Guidestones blew up.
Did they rebuild those?
shane cashman
Well, I did talk to the guy who collected the debris from the Guidestones, and he was weird.
Like, why would you want—he was putting them in his museum.
He wants to rebuild them, but everyone in that area doesn't want to rebuild them, because everyone in that area—most of the locals believe that they're bad, because they're eugenicist propaganda.
joshua smith
And nobody really knows who made them, who paid for them.
shane cashman
Yeah, well, it depends who you talk to.
tim pool
No, I mean, there's an official, like, There's the R.C.
shane cashman
Christian guy, which is a pseudonym, supposedly.
tim pool
The argument is, at the height of the Cold War, there was a fear that we'd wipe ourselves out in nuclear annihilation.
So they created the Guidestones in the event humanity got blown up.
However, that doesn't happen.
People look back on them, and they look at it now as a plan to enact, as opposed... So it's either... Sorry, that just doesn't sound as cool, Tim.
joshua smith
We're gonna have to go with the original conspiracy theory that it was a plan.
tim pool
No, that's actually the later conspiracy.
Originally it was, hey, we might all die in a nuclear annihilation, here's how you restart the Earth.
And the crazy thing is it's got like, didn't it have, I say it's got, it's gone, didn't it have like a thing to track the sun's position?
shane cashman
Yeah, it had a hole in it.
tim pool
And it had like math and stuff on it.
shane cashman
Yeah, all the different languages, and then there was a time capsule supposedly, but all the police told me there was no time capsule and they dug it up after they bulldozed it.
tim pool
The languages thing is really important because of the Rosetta Stone, for instance.
shane cashman
Yes.
tim pool
We're like, basically, we don't know what the Egyptians were saying.
It's a picture of a snake seven times.
shane cashman
Right.
tim pool
And then we find the Rosetta Stone and we're like, yo, we can translate Greek to Egyptian now.
shane cashman
Suppose there's a replica in Japan still.
I don't know.
tim pool
Of the Guidestones?
shane cashman
That's what I've been hearing.
I haven't seen the images.
But it's interesting to me that Shinzo Abe was taken out around the same time.
But that's just me.
I'm the Charlie Day meme with the guy and all the things connecting.
That's my brain.
But I don't think we should be messing with that stuff.
tim pool
The photos of the storm, it's already crazy.
And it's wild because it's red.
I went to Alaska in December and right when we landed in Fairbanks, right when we got out of the airport, we looked up and I was like, oh hey, look at that!
And it was minus 30.
So I've got icicles forming all over my face.
And the rental car key didn't work because it was frozen.
And so Allison is like, get a picture, get a picture!
And I'm like, I'm going to turn the car on and worry about it.
And then as soon as the car turned on, it just, it was gone.
And then we didn't see it again.
unidentified
Yeah.
joshua smith
We had a negative 30 day in Iowa this last year.
tim pool
It's fun.
joshua smith
We deal with a pretty cold winter.
tim pool
Negative 30, it's great.
You get icicles forming on your eyelashes.
joshua smith
Your mustache freezes the second you walk outside.
Every single time.
shane cashman
Does not sound fun.
tim pool
So I don't know if they're saying this is going to be as big as the Carrington event?
Which means we might see substations blow up?
phil labonte
Yeah, that was... I mean, that's what we were talking about today on the Culture War.
There were two dudes that have survival states and stuff.
And, I mean, look, I don't know for sure, but it is something that people are talking about.
Like, Normies, quote-unquote, are talking about it, so...
shane cashman
They've been peppering it into the corporate press for a year now, which I think is why a lot of people are talking about it.
But then we had Suspicious Observers, Space Weather Man, Ben on Culture War, where he talked about the Earth turning upside down.
He's been following this.
According to him, he follows this stuff very closely.
He thinks there's a 10% chance of, like, that kind of thing happening.
Like, really bad stuff.
tim pool
What if the shadow campaign is this?
The reason why they don't care about Joe Biden, the reason why they don't care about Trump, the reason why they don't care about the polls, is that what really happens is the grid gets knocked out for a month, and then we, it's like, October 27th, and then there's a massive geostorm hits, and this is the primer.
So it's like, this happens, then, you know, like, in September they say, we're forecasting another major solar storm to hit the earth, it's gonna, it could be as bad as the Carrington event, we all saw this happen, everyone get ready, October 27th, boom, Communications go down and we're all sitting around going, what's going on?
And then the power's out until like November 20th.
And then we wake up and they're like, Kamala Harris is president.
shane cashman
What did the evil people learn about the last few years is that we use the internet to subvert their narrative.
tim pool
Yeah.
shane cashman
And now they want to take that from us.
joshua smith
That's true.
We did use, I mean, the way that we've been trying to get our language back has been through the internet.
unidentified
Exactly.
100%.
shane cashman
And people found that language.
And there's a lot of people who don't agree with the power class who have a language now that could subvert them, and they don't want us to do that.
joshua smith
And whether you love them or hate them, Elon helped give us some of that back, too, on Twitter.
unidentified
Yeah.
shane cashman
Shout out to that.
tim pool
If communications got knocked out, That's how it used to be.
It used to be that you'd go to vote, and then, like, two months after the election, or maybe like a month, a pony rider, you know, brought up the paper, and they were like, oh, that's who won.
Last month, they swore him in, huh?
Dude, I just been up here farming.
shane cashman
If the power goes out again, Hillary Clinton could go to Harlem and pull out hot sauce from her purse and not get in trouble and ragged about it like she did last time.
unidentified
That's right.
shane cashman
Because she can just go and be whatever that area needs her to be.
tim pool
But let's be serious.
Think about this.
If the communications did go down, And you Google nothing worked.
Internet was knocked out.
It would jam up the economy real bad, something fierce.
It would really shuffle up the economy.
But let's be real.
When the grid comes back on and they come out and say Kamala Harris is president, or Joe Biden, There's going to be no argument.
Right now... No more doubt.
Well, it's because people can go back and be like, how come on this day, during the election, CNN ran these numbers, but then these numbers.
How come these people were seen on video, in a viral video, being blocked from viewing the counting process?
They get rid of all of the surveillance footage.
They get rid of all of the questionable footage of people who can't see in, the windows are being boarded up.
And then all they can say is, most secure election we've ever had.
And you're good.
If the grid went down, they could literally just go, all right, everybody, election's off.
We're just gonna say Biden won, done.
And no one can prove otherwise because all evidence has been destroyed by the solar flare.
shane cashman
What if that backfires on them and actually causes widespread maximum distrust?
unidentified
It will.
shane cashman
And then people, on a massive scale, reject anything they're told.
joshua smith
It'd be worse than massive distrust.
tim pool
Then how about this?
What if the grid goes down for four months?
shane cashman
I think it's disturbing.
tim pool
What is it?
21 days for a routine or something?
shane cashman
Yeah.
tim pool
Most people realign themselves to the new economic order when the communication grid goes down.
And then when it finally comes back up, no one's asking who the president is.
They're asking, what do I got to do today to get my loaf of bread?
shane cashman
Yeah, the president might be useless at that point.
He's just so international to them.
joshua smith
You're just making arguments to get on propane, first of all.
unidentified
Yeah.
joshua smith
Second of all, start stocking food, start storing food.
If you're not prepping by now, I'm sorry.
shane cashman
For sure.
joshua smith
Yeah, it's time to start prepping.
It's been time to start prepping for a while.
phil labonte
Especially if you've got kids on.
We were talking today, if you go to FEMA's website, a lot of people don't like to think about doing prepping stuff because they're like, oh, it makes me weird and let's show on.
History Channel and blah blah blah and they feel like they're weirdos or whatever, but if you go to FEMA's website That is you know the Federal Emergency Management Agency or whatever like they have a list of stuff And that's what the government recommends.
That's not like weirdo outside of you know crazy person stuff It's just the stuff the government recommends, and if you do that you're ahead of the game.
joshua smith
You're significantly ahead of the game This is a really easy campaign promise for me if you vote for me.
I won't cyber attack you You say that now, but what if you really don't like us once they talk to you?
shane cashman
I'm sorry, Joshua, as candidate for president, have you been checked for brain worms?
joshua smith
I have not, no.
But my wife is very big into the anti-parasite stuff, so I'm sure if I had them, I would know by now.
She would let me know.
tim pool
We're going to go to Super Chats, so if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share this show with your friends, and become a member at TimCast.com.
We don't do the members-only shows on Fridays, but we will read your Super Chats now.
TokenBlackGuy with the first one saying, howdy people!
No Clint today, just TokenBlackGuy.
He takes the first super chat.
Let's see, what does it say?
It's always hard to tell if it's an M, R, or an N. If it's an R and an N next to each other.
So I think it's Loomis.
Hey Tim, been watching you for years.
My sister just had twins and I'm wanting to fly out to meet them, but cannot afford it.
My Venmo is Samjda.
Good luck, sir.
Maybe someone superchatted money to be sent to a random person.
So I guess that's a thing that's happening now.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
All right, Owen Frechette says, I think he's meaning to say, could you give a shout out?
To my brilliant and beautiful wife, Molly McGuire.
It's her first Mother's Day and I just want her to know how much I love and appreciate everything she does for our daughter.
That's adorable.
hannah claire brimelow
Mother's Day is Sunday.
If you have a mom or a wife, maybe you should do something about that.
joshua smith
The only day I'll be home in the next two and a half weeks.
unidentified
Wow.
hannah claire brimelow
Good.
Well-planned.
unidentified
Thank God!
joshua smith
Love you, babe!
tim pool
I'll see you Sunday. David Doerr says, Tim, you were absolutely right about prisons on the culture
war this morning. As a former guest of the state, I can corroborate. Most would leave,
but prisons are extremely secure and they have vehicles, weapons, fuel, and food.
So we were talking about prepping and I said, in the event of a collapse,
prisons become fort marauder.
unidentified
Well, sure.
tim pool
They're going to open up everything, and then they're going to use that as a fortification, because as hard as it is to get out, it's hard to get in.
And so they're going to have weapons, they're going to have vehicles, they're going to have resources, and they're going to go marauding, and then they're going to come back and store everything in this fortress.
joshua smith
I believe that, yeah.
Definitely.
Definitely.
I've also watched The Walking Dead.
shane cashman
I was going to say, I was thinking what zombie movie did they do that in?
Yeah, Walking Dead.
phil labonte
There are ideas that I have that I'm not going to say because it's a T.O.S.
shane cashman
Just thinking that, dude.
joshua smith
I'm bugging out to Appalachia, for sure.
shane cashman
You've got to keep zombies close to the chest.
tim pool
This is the place for me.
Got a lot of water, you've got rivers, you've got wells, and it's mountainous and easy to defend.
joshua smith
It's like our own little Afghanistan.
unidentified
That's right, it is.
tim pool
All right, Brian Egon says, howdy people.
Tim, I award this $100 to the Super Chatter of your choice.
A sort of pay it forward if you like.
Have fun.
Oh, man.
joshua smith
They're doing some cool things in your chats there, dude.
tim pool
Yeah, I paid a couple people's rent this week.
joshua smith
Oh, that's really nice.
shane cashman
That's awesome.
tim pool
And so, uh...
So we do have one person who wants to fly to see his sister, who just had twins.
hannah claire brimelow
Twins!
That's so many nieces and or nephews.
tim pool
Maybe that will be the $100 that someone is gifting.
EpicGamer says, not a coffee drinker, but cast brew coffee is good.
Can't wait for cast brew tea.
If you ever make it, make sure you do loose leaf and CTC, not just tea bags.
As for flavors, consider Ceylon and Earl Grey.
joshua smith
Go back to Britain.
unidentified
Hey.
Hey.
shane cashman
I like tea.
Earl Grey.
joshua smith
I vote Earl Grey.
I vote coffee, man.
I'm a coffee guy.
I drink a lot of coffee.
shane cashman
Drinking Earl Grey right now.
joshua smith
You got 7k?
tim pool
Russell W. says, Hi Tim.
Today my HVAC failed in my workshop.
I'm a small ring maker.
Can't run machinery till I can afford to fix it.
Gets over 100 degrees without it.
Anything helps.
Love the show.
And then he lists his Venmo, Russell Warner.
I don't know.
What's more important?
Visiting your newborn twin niece and nephew or having your workshop be able to be worked in?
joshua smith
What size is his HVAC?
Where does he live?
I do HVAC.
I can come fix him.
hannah claire brimelow
You want to return to the hypotheticals about abortion or should we just decide people's fates in Super Chat?
Rainmaker is cool, though.
There used to be a guy who would Super Chat into Pop Culture Crisis all the time who was like a goldsmith in, I think, Texas.
I feel like careers where you make actual things are very cool.
joshua smith
Yeah, and there's fewer and fewer people that do that, too.
hannah claire brimelow
I knew a guy who – because I grew up in New England, probably you knew guys who do this,
but who knew how to stack the stones to make those iconic stone walls. And his son had very
serious addiction problems. He was raising his grandson, and he died before his grandson was
very old. So that trade that he had learned from his grandfather, who had learned it from his
grandfather, just completely went away with him.
joshua smith
When I still live in Oakland, I started my own handyman business, and I did Laugh and
Plaster. And I come to find out that everybody who was good at Laugh and Plaster was dead.
Thank you so much, and absolutely not!
I was getting calls like every day because there's tons of lath and plaster in the city.
And old houses too if you know how to do it.
So they were calling me in to do lath and plaster all the time.
I was making money hand over fist.
Yeah, it was good.
tim pool
Alright, Beavis McLean says, Phil the new single Divine is awesome.
The vocals and drums are just next level.
Keep up the great work.
joshua smith
Phil's never going to get tired of this.
tim pool
I hope to catch all that remains in Megadeth on the road this summer.
phil labonte
Thank you so much.
Absolutely not.
Why on earth?
Are you kidding?
joshua smith
Dude, I'm going to drive to Minneapolis to see you.
phil labonte
I don't want to hear it.
It is such a massive, massive compliment.
unidentified
You guys are coming to Iowa.
phil labonte
I'm so, so appreciative of every single... Phil hates Iowa.
joshua smith
Phil hates Iowans.
phil labonte
Listen, I don't do the booking man.
shane cashman
I know, I know.
I love Slipknot.
I want to put that on the record.
joshua smith
Yeah, everybody in Des Moines has a story twice removed from Corey Taylor or Slipknot.
Every single person.
phil labonte
That's because he still lives up there.
joshua smith
Dude, I know somebody who saw him running down the street naked at 3 o'clock in the morning once.
phil labonte
That doesn't surprise me at all.
unidentified
Wow.
phil labonte
I feel bad for Alicia sometimes.
tim pool
time. All right, Pimms the Great says, Howdy Tim and crew, I threw my shoulder out a couple
weeks ago, tilling my garden. Doc said I need to avoid doing it again. Have a give send
to go for a small tractor. Look up Pim the Tractor. I don't know, I think the guy's workshop
shane cashman
is the current leader. Yeah. That's what my gut is, just because he's got to take care
joshua smith
It's a toss-up for him and the twins.
shane cashman
I get seeing the twins, but it's unfortunately not your kids, and this guy's got to work.
joshua smith
I'd love a new tractor, too, buddy.
I think we all would, for sure.
shane cashman
It's tough.
tim pool
We're looking into getting some guy, he races his lawnmower.
We're going to get him a wrap, because we got Cody Dennison's ARCA racer, NASCAR, wrapped Tim Kast's car.
And so someone super chatted, like, I race lawnmowers.
You want to wrap it?
I was like, yes, we do.
unidentified
Nice.
hannah claire brimelow
We're just supporting American culture everywhere there is.
joshua smith
I saw that you guys did that on the NASCAR rap.
That was really cool.
That was a pretty cool thing.
My mom watches NASCAR.
I don't, but my mom does for sure.
tim pool
All right.
Rodney says, my brother almost died from quitting alcohol.
He is home now, but they drained 13 to 15 gallons of fluid from his body.
His girlfriend set up a GoFundMe to help with the bills and calling all neighbors in the friendly neighborhood.
Anything can help them right now.
Oh, wow.
Does that beat the guy who needs his air conditioning fixed?
shane cashman
It might, dude.
It's pretty tough.
I mean, can you do a poll and make them decide?
I don't want to decide this.
You should make the chat decide.
hannah claire brimelow
It's always a question of, like, do you support a lot to one person or, like, do you give small amounts to several people?
joshua smith
Wait, this guy went through all this after being a heavy drinker?
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
Is that what it said?
tim pool
That's a tough one.
Oh, it's a GoFundMe, though.
That makes it tough.
joshua smith
Oof.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, we like give, send, go here.
GoFundMe is super woke and they ban good people who need real help and so, you know, I don't want to hold that against you though.
But maybe.
unidentified
Maybe.
tim pool
Alright, we'll grab some more super chats.
Right now it's basically like a shark tank of need.
unidentified
Yeah.
joshua smith
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Uh, TokenBlackEye says, hey Tim, here's 10 bucks to pass forward to a lucky Super Chatter for pizza.
Also, Phil, can I get a yeah?
unidentified
Yeah!
shane cashman
Yeah!
tim pool
So it's up to 110 now to give to a person in need.
Look at that, that's super cool.
Operation Outstanding in field, says Shane.
Drew here.
For your show, would you like to have me on and talk about my coma fever dream hours after getting diagnosed with GBS?
It's the stuff of nightmares and life survival.
shane cashman
Exactly.
That's exactly what we want to hear about.
unidentified
Hit me up.
hannah claire brimelow
Coma dreams are crazy.
shane cashman
Oh, if it's the Drew, I think it is.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
shane cashman
Definitely.
Definitely hit me up, dude.
joshua smith
You were in a coma?
hannah claire brimelow
No, I wasn't.
One of my step grandparents was and he came out of it talking about it.
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
Really?
joshua smith
In a coma?
hannah claire brimelow
For like, for like a long period, right?
joshua smith
Holy shit, dude.
Glad you made it.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, his story is actually pretty wild.
He got knocked into a coma.
And then he was like on a roller coaster into this weird city where a
small monkey creature rode the thing back up into his body and then was running around
doing flips and stuff and jumping over cars. This was in your coma you saw? Yeah no no no the the
monkey entity took over his body and woke up and then he was in this weird coma world where he
had to take over Chris Kattan's dead body.
shane cashman
I love that movie. Yes.
unidentified
us. We don't say that. Does anybody... Where are we going now?
shane cashman
does anyone know you're going there i just haven't heard i couldn't think
unidentified
christmas money from him dude it's a job that's right i know it was a real
tim pool
but i never get brandon fraser and chris chris katan he takes over the dead
unidentified
olympic uh... this time that movies are so good That was a good movie.
joshua smith
That was a cheesy good movie.
tim pool
Right, right.
Cheesy, but we enjoy it for its badness.
joshua smith
Have you seen the movie John Travolta that came out not too long ago that's directed by Fred Durtz from... I heard about it.
tim pool
Is this like the action movie or whatever?
joshua smith
No, he's like a stalker.
He's like an autistic stalker and he's stalking like a famous actor.
And the famous actor is... what's the guy from Idle Hands and Little Giants and... Devin Sawa.
It's like so cheesy, but it was really really good money.
You should check it out.
I can't remember the name of it.
tim pool
Fred Durst, huh?
joshua smith
Fred Durst is the record.
shane cashman
He's back.
That's why I said I'm running as president.
unidentified
And I promised to make him... Fred Durst is a registered member of the Libertarian Party.
shane cashman
Is he really?
I want him to be the poet laureate of the country.
So if you become president, could you hit him up?
phil labonte
The newest Limp Bizkit record is great.
Dad Vibes.
joshua smith
It's awesome.
phil labonte
It's a great record.
tim pool
It's called Dad Vibes?
shane cashman
I'm pretty sure.
phil labonte
I know there's a song called Dad Vibes.
I'm not sure how I'd recommend it.
hannah claire brimelow
Are you saying it's pro-family?
Are you saying it's pro-natalist?
shane cashman
The last song on that record is actually better than most, like, 90s pop music as well.
joshua smith
I was born in 1983.
I proudly went to Limp Bizkit concerts, and they were insane.
Absolutely insane.
shane cashman
I mean, and also, sorry, I know we don't want to talk about Limp Bizkit forever, but they also are part of Family Values.
joshua smith
Yes.
shane cashman
So there is a family theme here.
joshua smith
Yeah, yeah, I like it.
tim pool
So we just got a super chat from the Bearded Fatsman says, watch the show every night.
Diagnosed with leukemia last month.
Self-employed and struggling with business and medical bills.
Everything helps.
Give, send, go.
Kyle's fight against leukemia.
joshua smith
That's the guy.
That's the one we got to help there.
Leukemia is rough.
It's a tough one.
Good luck.
God bless you, man.
shane cashman
Sorry.
tim pool
Whoa, really?
shane cashman
That's terrible.
tim pool
Oh, there's a there's actually a whole bunch call of GoFundMe's titled that.
joshua smith
Oh, well, no.
tim pool
Yeah.
shane cashman
This is tough.
Is it up to you, Tim, to decide this at the end?
tim pool
It's up to everybody.
shane cashman
I think the chat should decide.
I don't like having to decide.
joshua smith
Are we going to get questions at all in there?
Are we going to talk about any questions?
Phil, we should get the money.
unidentified
I don't know that I can actually find this, my friend.
phil labonte
Don't put me in charge of that stuff.
tim pool
Yeah, I searched for that title and it didn't come up.
Kyle's Fight Against Leukemia Give Send Go.
Not finding it.
Let me try a broader search.
phil labonte
Drag.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
But in the meantime, yeah, there's a little kid.
Oh, man.
Now I gotta give this kid money.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, he's over his goal, actually.
Oh, wait, no, he's about to hit his goal.
Okay, I gotta give this kid money.
This is just some little kid.
shane cashman
Helping people peripherally now.
tim pool
Yeah, no, I just searched and this is a little kid.
He's got leukemia.
shane cashman
Yeah.
phil labonte
What is this?
shane cashman
Oh, man.
tim pool
Four years old!
Oh, jeez.
shane cashman
Terrible.
tim pool
All right, he needs a couple grand.
hannah claire brimelow
Maybe we should just, like, scroll through Loot Keeper or Gives & Go all the time.
Be like, support you, this one.
shane cashman
Yeah.
You can pull it up and put it, like, in the super chat.
hannah claire brimelow
Do you think people prioritize charitable giving enough?
Or do you think, especially in economically hard times, people sort of...
phil labonte
I think charitable giving has been outsourced to the government.
There's a social safety net, there's taxes, so charitable giving does not exist for people that are not religious.
I think they've seen that in studies.
I'm not sure.
hannah claire brimelow
I've heard that as our community sort of fell apart, one of the first things to go was charitable giving.
And it's actually something that people talk about in relation to women staying at home, because typically in Indiana University had the School of Philanthropy did a study on this.
Women tend to be the people who decide the charitable giving.
Like if you have a family budget, you're like, well, this is where these things are going.
And so as we focus more on work all the time and Individualize ourselves these structures that we have that would have normally been the ones be like, okay Now we got to make a decision about who we're helping they fell apart.
shane cashman
It's also aid isn't their charity They asked you for charity everywhere now like you check out at Petco or supermarket.
tim pool
They want an extra 10 cents No, my favorite thing was someone filmed a video where they went to a grocery store and it was self checkout only and the self-checkout asked for a tip after No, for real.
Yeah, it was like 5, 10, 20 percent.
And they were like, who am I tipping?
joshua smith
America's the only culture that does this.
phil labonte
I would have stole a bag of chips just on principle.
unidentified
Man!
We're the only culture that does this.
phil labonte
I'm taking some Reese's Penises and I'm getting out of here.
joshua smith
I'm not anti-tipping, but it's gotten to a point.
hannah claire brimelow
There was a female comedian who said that like she doesn't like tipping especially when you're like at a coffee shop
and like you're doing most of herself like you're paying.
She's like I work here now you pay me like that's how I feel about the self check out at the grocery store. You
should get a discount because you're now an employee.
shane cashman
I always like when they ask you if the amount is okay I'm like can I negotiate?
Is this up for a discussion?
joshua smith
Yeah is this amount okay?
shane cashman
Yeah I don't like it.
tim pool
Not really.
Brad Marklin says Tim please state what cut off you'd be okay banning.
There are some who have even considered partial and post-birth abortion.
No time for a full cut-off.
I don't know what you mean.
joshua smith
He's asking where you think the cut-off should be for abortion.
tim pool
Well, I said this last night on the Members Only Show.
The solution is actually really simple.
When the woman goes into an abortion clinic, Holy crap!
She signs the paperwork and you're like, are you sure this is what you want to do?
She says, yes.
Say right this way.
You sit, you lay her down.
Then you administer anesthetic, which will keep her in a medically
induced coma for nine months.
And then when she wakes up, you just say procedures done.
I'm kidding.
joshua smith
Holy crap.
hannah claire brimelow
Her family doesn't wonder where she went.
joshua smith
That's pretty base, Tim.
I'm not gonna lie, dude.
shane cashman
That's what was going on in that brainwashing camp in Canada.
tim pool
Put you in a coma for a year.
There is no easy answer for the abortion question, like I was saying before.
It's a spear.
There's no battleground.
There's no fence.
You cannot stand in the middle.
It doesn't exist.
So I think ultimately what it comes down to is the 14th Amendment says that a person can't be deprived of life without due process.
And I believe that human beings are persons.
There's no legal distinction and there's no logical or scientific distinction between a baby gestated at eight and a half months and a baby gestated at eight and a half months that was born.
They're the exact same level of development.
And so I've asked this of every pro-choice person, they can't give me an answer, what is the legal distinction between two babies that were conceived at the exact same moment, they're both gestated to eight and a half months, and then one woman goes into an early labor, they deliver the baby.
The moment that baby touches air, it's now got due process rights, but because it hasn't touched air it has no due process rights, it doesn't make sense.
So what's the logic and the law for that?
I think whether anyone wants to accept it or not, and whether my opinion matters, it doesn't, a Supreme Court ruling on the 14th Amendment would be, abortions require a judge's sign-off.
Now whether or not you want to say, with medical exemptions, and for contraception, whatever, it doesn't matter, a judge still has to sign off on it.
Because a person has due process rights.
And that being said, ultimately what I think that turns into is, abortion's over.
Because judges won't sign off on it.
But this means all, in like almost every circumstance.
The judge would sign off on issues where the mother's life is in jeopardy and things like that.
There would be emergency hearings.
Those already exist.
A lot of pro-abortion people are like, well then what if a woman's in a serious medical emergency and they need to act now and they can't?
It's like, yeah, they already have courts for this where A judge can be contacted in moments.
We're talking minutes to an hour or whatever.
So I don't think that's the issue.
Seamus Coghlan brings up a good point.
When the left says there will be back alley abortions, he goes, yeah, of course.
And there will be very few of them, and there will be overwhelmingly no abortions.
joshua smith
And that's the thing.
Murder and robbery and theft, these things are dangerous.
And they're supposed to be dangerous, right?
So like, yeah, there's gonna be back alley abortions, and people can die from back alley abortions.
And, good!
I mean, at the end of the day, it should be dangerous to commit murder.
shane cashman
I don't want them to die.
joshua smith
I don't want them to die, but it should be dangerous.
phil labonte
Work on your messaging, because someone will take that right away and be like, oh, people will die?
unidentified
Good!
Well, there you go!
joshua smith
It should be dangerous to commit murder.
unidentified
It should be.
phil labonte
Just say and work on the messaging.
tim pool
Hal Gailey says, a baby conceived in rape is not a second assault on the woman, it's a second victim of the rape.
Make that POV, the prevailing one, fix the premise.
And I understand this, too.
The argument from the right on this one is that the attack on the woman is not the rape, it's the rape and the entire duration of the pregnancy to which the baby has to be born.
So, in that argument, it's, I'm sorry this happened to you, ma'am, but the pregnancy already happened to you.
That's the point.
That's where you have the conservative argument on saying no exceptions for rape.
joshua smith
And we don't.
And we're not in the business of punishing the innocent children of criminals.
With death.
unidentified
Right.
phil labonte
All right.
tim pool
Brad Markland says, No, you're right, Tim.
Incest shouldn't count, but birth defects from it, or if it's rape, should count.
Incest babies are still alive.
So this person, I believe, says there should be an exception for rape.
Cain Abel says, pro-life conservative, Tim, no babies should be murdered.
It is not the baby's fault for the sins of the father or both mother and the father.
joshua smith
Those are my people there.
tim pool
What we do is we take the baby out, we put it in a bag, where they grow the goats, and they grow a person.
unidentified
And then the baby is... They are working on an artificial womb.
tim pool
The moment you get an artificial womb, abortion's illegal.
The problem right now with the logic of Democrats is, When RFK Jr.
says, even if it's full term, it's like, why kill it?
joshua smith
Right.
tim pool
If a woman wants to end the pregnancy or needs to end the pregnancy, why kill the baby?
Yep.
I've never gotten a real answer.
shane cashman
That's why I keep saying human sacrifice.
It's like they fetishize the violence of it.
Like when there's ways to protect it.
It's a murder cult.
unidentified
Yeah.
shane cashman
It stems out of this nihilism.
joshua smith
When they're coming out of the abortion clinics, handing the pictures of their unborn baby to pro-life people saying, that's the baby I'm going to murder.
It's a murder cult.
It's a murder cult.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Holm Brian says, I thought incest was illegal for medical reasons.
No.
In fact, in some states it is legal.
New York, I believe you're legally allowed to gay marry your cousin.
Yeah.
joshua smith
In New York?
tim pool
Yeah, New York State allows it.
hannah claire brimelow
Can you straight marry your cousin?
tim pool
Yes.
hannah claire brimelow
New York is such a weird state.
tim pool
So New York is a state where you can marry your cousin and get gay married, which means you can gay marry your cousin.
joshua smith
There's already a meme of me calling Clint Russell, Kurt Russell tonight.
Thanks a lot to Dan Smoth.
hannah claire brimelow
I don't think you're getting his endorsement, you know?
joshua smith
No, listen, we were calling him Kurt Russell in Georgia.
shane cashman
So that's why I said that.
joshua smith
They were calling him Kurt Russell McCarthy because he was doing the Inquisition about COVID stuff to Jacob Hornberger.
tim pool
Richard Slammer says, Tim, by definition incest is non-consensual.
It's a form of rape a parent forces on a child that some people argue to normalize it by so-called brosis consent.
Almost never happens.
A straw man.
That's not the point.
The point is the term legally incest refers to familial sex.
It could be brothers and sisters.
But what if it's a forty-year-old parent with a twenty You're old.
joshua smith
That's degenerate.
shane cashman
Disgusting.
Penal colony.
joshua smith
So, arrest?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
I don't know.
Well, there's an argument for... That's degeneracy.
joshua smith
They definitely need to leave a polite society.
shane cashman
Are there blasphemy laws in your libertarian presidency?
Not to go too crazy, but it's something I think about a lot.
joshua smith
In my perfect world, sure.
shane cashman
But can those exist in this country?
joshua smith
I don't think so.
I don't think they could.
We're built on it.
I believe that we were built as a Christian nation with the right to freedom of religion, right?
shane cashman
And free will.
joshua smith
And free will, yeah.
So like 70% of the population of the United States today calls themselves some type of denomination of Christian, right now.
unidentified
70%.
joshua smith
And I'm sure that the founding was meant to be more Christian than that, but it's written into our founding documents that we have freedom of religion.
phil labonte
70% of people will say they're Christian.
I don't think that 70% of... They're not practicing.
joshua smith
Only 40% of us have ever read the Bible.
shane cashman
They're as Christian as Biden is.
phil labonte
Yeah, I think that it's... and I think that they're actually not even... they don't even behave like Christians anymore, though.
hannah claire brimelow
No, what they mean is, my parents got me baptized, we went to church a couple times when I was a kid, so I'm gonna say this.
shane cashman
Christian in name only.
hannah claire brimelow
Right.
It's very different.
And I think this is interesting because I think you'll see people who turn to religion as one of these segments in culture.
You'll have a lot of people – atheism was one of the – atheism and agnosticism were the two – one of the two fastest growing religions.
I think the Pew Research Center has a poll on this and people are always like, oh, this That's crazy.
But is it actually crazy?
Because I think this is the culture we're in.
They don't want you to be any religion at all.
They don't want you to be Christian in America because that's too close to what the founding fathers wanted.
But on top of that, they want you to believe in nothing and not have families and to be alone and to be completely self-absorbed.
phil labonte
I am agnostic, and I don't have... this isn't a spiritual thing that I'm talking about, but the left wants you to be anti-christian.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, they don't want you to have any community.
phil labonte
No, they want you to be anti-christian.
The project that the left does is all anti-family, anti-christian.
There were times when Marx would call himself the Antichrist.
The whole left is about tearing down the things that people consider Quote-unquote good, and we get our conception of good from the Judeo-Christian... There's no such thing.
Whatever.
You know what I'm talking about?
unidentified
I don't want to fight about freaking Israel every time.
phil labonte
Like, Jesus Christ, you people are autistic.
joshua smith
But the point is... It's the Communist playbook.
phil labonte
The point is they want to tear down all of the things that Western society is built on.
All of the things that make our society work.
joshua smith
If you need any proof of that, just look at the Communist Revolution in Russia where they actually had to excommunicate and kill the Orthodox Christians.
It's part of the playbook, man.
tim pool
We're up to 235 and people have super chatted saying, you know, give it to someone else.
There is this dude, AltoNative, said he lives in his car and he needs new tires, needs the help, but he did not link a Venmo or GoFundMe or anything like that.
joshua smith
Bummer.
hannah claire brimelow
Did you see that story about the homeless woman who's been living on the roof of a building like behind their sign for over a year?
joshua smith
No.
hannah claire brimelow
She had like a computer up there.
She had some appliances.
shane cashman
Isn't there a term now for that kind of thing?
They call it frogging where people are living secretly in a place.
hannah claire brimelow
But also sometimes I think frogging is like Specific to residential. Okay. I don't know if maybe cannot
unidentified
be applied commercially Did you ever see the the home video of that the there was
joshua smith
that family that lived in an apartment?
And there was like this space above their front door like randomly it had like a kind of like a door on it
And then and then they put in a camera because they kept hearing noises and stuff and there was someone
tim pool
I saw a video where someone was complaining about noises at night and
They would like it got bad where they called the police a couple times the police came in
Looked around and couldn't find anything So they installed a camera and then they actually saw
someone crawl out of the ceiling into their Into the kitchen and started taking food and then crawled
hannah claire brimelow
back up The show that I was watching, again it's called Froggy,
You know, every episode there's like a couple stories and this one mom was like, yeah, like I noticed a lot of sodas were going missing, but I had a bunch of teenagers.
And she was saying one night she had a young daughter who was like spending the night in her bed, you know, had bedroom or whatever.
And at one point she woke up and she's like, mom, there's a man standing in the closet.
And it turned out the closet had one of those things where you like push up and get to the attic.
He had been living there for like a long, long time.
joshua smith
1600 square foot basement, okay, it's the same it's the same size as our house It's a ranch level and then the basement the same exact size and there's like all kinds of nooks and crannies and there's like four different Rooms down there and then there's a part that's unfinished and that's where I my podcast studio And there's several doors that enter into there too and every night you check them every night.
I go down there.
shane cashman
I'll do it on the same way through everything the same way.
Yeah, I check every nook and cranny every night. You never know
unidentified
obviously Every night see this is why women should live with men. Yes
joshua smith
There's a reason why.
shane cashman
Will a bear do that?
unidentified
A bear would never do that for you!
hannah claire brimelow
There are a couple crazy stories.
I mean, I highly recommend this TV show, but again, I can only watch like two episodes at a time.
It makes me like, you know, I moved into a new apartment and like every once in a while, here's something I'll be like, who lived here before me?
shane cashman
I'm already paranoid.
I don't need a TV show to make it worse.
joshua smith
I regret to inform women that after two weeks of living with them, the bear has returned to men, in case you were wondering.
tim pool
So I couldn't find, uh, I searched GiveSendToGo for leukemia, Kyle leukemia, I couldn't find it.
It's not there.
joshua smith
Dang, that sucks.
tim pool
I did give some other kid who was four years old and had leukemia a couple grand, so.
joshua smith
Oh, that's good.
tim pool
Yeah, that was brutal.
And that was from a few months ago, so their family's gonna see it, and hopefully, you know, it'll help them out, because they said nuts, the surgeries and everything.
But, um, I think the guy who needs to fix his AC is currently winning.
I'd like to help the guys living in his car, but he didn't give us a Venmo or anything.
So the guy who's trying to work hard because he wants to get his workshop up and running seems to make a lot of sense.
joshua smith
This is really cool, man.
When did you start doing this, Tim?
tim pool
Well, I just abruptly paid someone's rent.
hannah claire brimelow
On like Monday.
tim pool
And then people started asking more and more, and so I just started paying other people's rent.
joshua smith
That's really cool, man.
That's a really cool thing.
shane cashman
That's awesome.
tim pool
But then some people are like, Tim, stop.
Now everyone's just posting and begging.
And I'm like, I mean, People are just doing it.
I never said I was going to give him money, but I guess you do, and then people are like, if he is, you know what I mean?
unidentified
Yeah.
joshua smith
No, I get it.
shane cashman
Things are really bad.
Like, I've traveled this country so much, and it's everywhere.
tim pool
Here we go.
Fix your air conditioning, guy.
Here's $235.
shane cashman
Sick.
unidentified
Damn.
Nice.
shane cashman
Yeah, I've been talking to, like, taxi drivers, and people in the hotels, and teachers, small business owners.
Dude, people are not doing well.
Yeah, everyone's crushed.
joshua smith
I'm telling you right now, it's going to be worse than 2008.
It's coming.
Bad crash.
Bad.
unidentified
The worst.
shane cashman
It feels like something is brewing.
It's coming bad.
joshua smith
Really bad, yeah.
tim pool
You take a look at the Fed's losses, the unrealized losses, their balance sheet, it's just like negative to insane, it's nuts.
Horrible.
Yeah, House of Cards is an understatement.
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joshua smith
Yeah, follow me on Twitter.
I'm at war with all the other blue checks there.
It's at Joshua at large.
And of course, go check out the campaign website at joshuasmith2024.com.
We got two weeks till the nomination.
Two weeks.
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So if you could throw a couple bucks, we'd appreciate it.
tim pool
What's the YouTube channel for Sunday?
shane cashman
Tales from the Inverted World.
What time?
It will be at 6 o'clock Eastern Time and you will be there and we're going to have call-ins.
We have already a bunch of people lined up to tell us stories.
We'll go through some news items about some weird stuff that's going on in the world and it's going to be a lot of fun.
I can't wait.
tim pool
Subscribe everybody!
Go to Tales From The Inverted World on YouTube.
Subscribe now.
Anything else you want to shout out?
joshua smith
I want to come on the show.
shane cashman
Yeah, you should definitely come on the show.
tim pool
Everybody has been asking to come on, like who works here, because literally everybody.
They're like, This is so much fun stuff to talk about.
Aliens, ghosts, murder mysteries.
shane cashman
Yeah, thank you to everyone who sent me messages.
I've had so much fun reading all these messages.
If you have one, hit me up at shanecashman at scanner.com, s-c-n-r dot com.
I'm taking submissions there.
Also on X, wherever.
I'm going through them all.
I'll hit you up.
I'll send you a link.
You can be a caller on the show.
We're still tweaking out.
joshua smith
Please have Aiden from the Lore Lodge on your show too.
shane cashman
I was just thinking about those guys.
Yeah, the Lore Lodge is what's up.
So I got a lot of people lined up and it's going to be a lot of fun.
I'm stoked.
phil labonte
I am PhilThatRemains on Twix.
I'm PhilThatRemainsOfficial on Instagram.
The band is All That Remains.
You can catch us this summer on the Destroy All Enemies Tour with Megadeth and Mudvayne starting August 2nd going through September 28th or something like that.
The new single from All That Remains is out now.
It's called Divine.
It's available on Spotify, Apple Music, Pandora, Deezer, Amazon Music, YouTube, you know, the internet.
tim pool
Hank, real quick, I just want to stress, I think it's been up for about a week now.
You've got like 600k on YouTube, and anybody who follows their favorite bands, that's massive.
hannah claire brimelow
It's crazy.
phil labonte
It's amazing.
It's a super big deal.
I really, really appreciate all the people that have Has spun it just because like we've been gone for six years.
We haven't put out new music because we had a bunch of stuff.
So when one of our guys passed away, COVID, when another guy had a kid and a bunch of other business stuff.
So like the fact that so many people have been spending our stuff and showing so much support, I really appreciate the heck out of it.
Thank you so much.
It's been wonderful and I can't wait to see you guys on the road.
Hannah Clare!
hannah claire brimelow
I think it's going to be a cool summer for you, Phil.
I'm excited for your tour.
Cheers.
It's been fun to be here with everybody.
I'm Hannah-Claire Brimelow.
I'm a writer for scnr.com.
That's Scanner News.
You can follow all of Scanner's work at TimCastNews on Instagram and Twitter.
If you want to follow me personally, I'm on Twitter at HannahClaireBee, and I'm on Instagram at HannahClaire.Bee.
Bye, Serge!
unidentified
Bye, guys.
Have a good weekend.
Cheers.
tim pool
Thanks for hanging out.
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