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April 30, 2024 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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US Begins Invasion Of Gaza, Defense Sec Says LIKELY Combat Begins w/Connor Tomlinson | Timcast IRL
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tim pool
Peace.
And of course, the Biden administration is not classifying it that way.
But thanks to our own eyes, but I'll give credit absolutely to Matt Gaetz for his questioning of Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin.
We know that this is just an invasion of Gaza.
The IDF has moved into Gaza already.
The U.S.
is constructing a pier off the coast which will soon connect to the ground where U.S.
troops will be stationed.
Lloyd Austin testifying to Matt Gaetz said it is likely that U.S.
troops will be fired upon, fire back, and engage in combat likely with Hamas in this area.
I don't know what else you call this other than boots on the ground and an invasion of Gaza.
One that no one agreed to, has no authorization, but surprise, surprise, this is what the U.S.
does.
It's why I like Donald Trump.
No new wars, you can say it a million times, and here we are now with the U.S.
basically getting directly involved in a ground invasion of Gaza.
Unsurprising.
We'll talk about that.
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Conor Tomlinson.
connor tomlinson
Thank you very much, Tim.
Thank you very much for hosting me.
tim pool
I have too many promos, and I'm losing my train of thought.
Who are you?
What do you do?
connor tomlinson
I am host of TomlinsonTalks over at LotusEaters.com, one of Carl Benjamin's merry band of English political commentators, one of the co-hosts of the podcast Lotus Eaters, also appear very frequently on UK TV when they'll still have me and won't kick me off.
tim pool
Right on.
Alright, this should be fun. We're good friends with Carl, so we're big fans of Lotus Eaters.
Glad to have you.
Of course, Phil's here.
phil labonte
Hello, everybody.
My name is Phil Labonte.
I am the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remained, and I'm a Anticommunist and a counter-revolutionary.
Hannah Clare, how are you?
hannah claire brimelow
Hi, I'm Hannah Clare Brimlow.
I'm a writer for scnr.com.
I'm happy to have Connor here.
He's a shim cast survivor of maybe that crazy week that the Irish guy ran the show.
connor tomlinson
There's a lot more spoons in this new studio, I noticed.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, for now, until that guy comes back.
tim pool
It's actually a problem, because we overcompensated by buying more, but now that they're not disappearing, they're piling up.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, I'd rather have more than too few.
I'm sure he'll come back and pillage our poor studio eventually.
Serge is here.
unidentified
I am.
What's up, Tim?
Hey, Connor.
Glad you're here.
Let's get started.
tim pool
All right.
Here's the news from the BBC.
Images show U.S.
military building floating pier for Gaza aid.
Ah, yes.
It's just humanitarian aid.
That's all they're doing.
All they're doing is building a floating pier out at sea.
And there's a jetty, a holding area under construction, and that's what we're doing.
See, the U.S., they're so nice, they're going to be sending meals to the poor people of Gaza.
And the reality is, this floating pier will make contact with the coast, which will be secured by the IDF.
And if you'd like to understand why this is a U.S.
invasion of Gaza, Aligned with the IDF, I throw it to Matt Gaetz with this incredible exchange with the Secretary of Defense.
Outright just admitting it.
Here you go.
matt gaetz
Ms.
Larkin just said there'll be about a thousand U.S.
servicemembers operating a peer system off of Gaza.
How many of them will have guns, Mr. Secretary?
unidentified
Well, typically all of the deployed servicemembers carry guns, and they have the ability to protect themselves if challenged.
matt gaetz
So if someone from land in Gaza shoots at our service members who are on the $320 million pier that we're building, you're telling me our service members can shoot back?
unidentified
They have the right to return fire, to protect themselves.
matt gaetz
So now I want to move to the likelihood that you think someone from land in Gaza might shoot at our service members on this pier.
Do you think that's a likely scenario?
unidentified
That's possible, yes.
matt gaetz
This is a very telling moment, Mr. Secretary, because you've said something that's quite possible that could happen, right?
Shots from Gaza on our service members, and then the response, our armed service members shooting live fire into Gaza.
That is a possible outcome here so that we can become the port authority and run this pier.
Right?
unidentified
Uh, that's correct.
I expect that we will always have the ability to protect ourselves.
matt gaetz
Don't you think that counts as boots on the ground?
President Biden told the country that we weren't going to have boots on the ground in Gaza.
unidentified
And we won't.
matt gaetz
Okay, but you guys parse the distinction between, like when Americans think boots on the ground, they think Americans in harm's way, or engaged actively in a conflict.
You guys seem to be sort of, um, Saying that boots on a pier, connected to the ground, connected to service members shooting into Gaza, doesn't count as boots on the ground?
unidentified
It does not.
connor tomlinson
Do we remember when the Pirates of the Paul A and the third Pirates of the Caribbean movie, Davy Jones could only stand in a bucket?
Didn't count on him being on dry land?
That's apparently now US military policy.
phil labonte
This is already a moot point though, because there was just five days ago, I'm looking up on militarytimes.com, there were already mortar attacks, the pier was already taking mortars from Gaza.
So this is already a moot point.
This was Thursday, April 25th.
I'll put it in the slack so you can grab it.
But yeah, I mean, this is already actively happening.
Military Times was saying... When was it?
tim pool
Four days ago?
phil labonte
It says five days ago, but...
But yeah, I mean, U.S.-led Gaza humanitarian aid pier comes under fire, U.N.
officials say.
An under-construction pier for a U.S.-led project to bring aid to the Gaza Strip came under fire Wednesday, forcing U.N.
officials to take shelter there, Israeli and U.N.
officials said.
unidentified
So that means that- It's almost like they think it's the U.S.
hannah claire brimelow
military building a pier right off the edge of the ocean, which is exactly what it is.
phil labonte
There's going to be gunfights, right, if they're going, because the aid that they're intending to give is going to be taken by Hamas, because that's what's happened to all the other aid I sent there.
connor tomlinson
Like, if the IDF are actively involved in patrolling the place, that isn't going to deter the Palestinians from firing on it, because they're currently at war with the IDF.
phil labonte
And they look at Americans and they're like, well, shoot at them too, because they're giving military support to Israel.
tim pool
We are funding Israel.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
We're funding their defense.
We are in a joint operation to build a pier on their coast after the IDF invaded and is going to secure the coast, meaning they're moving straight through Gaza.
We're already under attack.
unidentified
U.S.
tim pool
troops are authorized, according to the Secretary of Defense, to return fire.
And it doesn't count as boots on the ground because they're technically on ground we built.
phil labonte
It's so stupid.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, it reminds me of those fights you have with your sibling where it's like, I'm not touching you, but I'm very much in your personal space.
And so I'm going to scream at the top of my lungs.
You can understand where people look at this as a form of aggression.
And this is costing like $320 million, right?
This isn't just like throwaway cash that you know, we decided, oh, we'll see what happens.
We'll see if it takes gunfire, we'll pretend this, that, and the other.
It's a serious investment of money that I'm sure a million towns across the U.S.
would have said, hey, we could use that.
Instead, it's just being thrown away overseas to pretend we're not participating
in conflict that we're clearly participating in.
tim pool
What do you think would happen if China built a pier off the coast of Oregon
and then announced that they would join with the Russian forces that are
currently stationed in the area to connect the pier to the coast?
That is an act of war.
hannah claire brimelow
Apparently, Lloyd Austin would say, well, they don't have boots on the ground, so it's okay.
I mean, this is not a great stance for the U.S.
unidentified
military.
tim pool
We haven't been invaded.
hannah claire brimelow
We haven't been invaded.
They're just sort of near us, but there's nothing we can do.
It's fine.
Like, it's ridiculous.
connor tomlinson
Until you said Russian, I was gonna say, well, then the Democrat states are gonna back it, because it's the Chinese, but...
There you go.
tim pool
Right, the idea is like Russia enters through Canada or something.
They've actively entered our territory and other... Look, the United States considers the official government of Hamas, I'm sorry, of Gaza, which is Hamas, to be a terrorist organization we are in active conflict with.
That is the elected government of the Gaza Strip.
phil labonte
They're currently holding Americans, like all these idiots.
All these idiots on college campuses talking like supporting Hamas and supporting Gaza.
They're literally supporting terrorists that currently hold American citizens.
Like, that is, I don't, I don't know the last time there was American citizens being held by a terrorist group where Americans were saying the terrorists are right.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, the Biden administration is not endearing themselves to any of the protesters right now.
All the protesters who feel as though Israel and the Biden administration are being too aggressive towards Palestinians who have a right to this area are going to look at this and say, you are now closing in from both sides.
We hate this even more.
How could this possibly be a good move for Biden long term if he wants to get reelected?
tim pool
Real quick, this is what I was waiting for.
Mikey197799 in the chat saying this headline is clickbait, which is exactly the problem this country has.
We have deployed US troops armed into the coast of Gaza as our Our ally has invaded the territory and gone to war with the official government of the Gaza Strip and we are already taking fire and our troops are authorized to return fire.
There is no reality outside of your 1984 doublespeak where this is anything other than the US invasion of Gaza.
We control, I think, what is it, 11 miles off the coast.
That's the internationally recognized coastline boundaries for every country.
We are on the coast.
We are building a pier to connect to the coast to be secured by the IDF.
We are aligned and allied with Israel.
We have teamed up with Israel in their invasion of Gaza.
Everyone called it a ground invasion of Gaza.
When the IDF went in, it was Israel's ground invasion of Gaza.
We have now assisted them financially with weapons, and now we are building a pier to bring in supplies.
And they say, But it's for humanitarian aid.
I don't believe it for two seconds.
Y'all live in crazy world if you think this is anything other than the US getting supplies to the IDF.
connor tomlinson
Well, all of politics is a choice, and this is something that you've just highlighted, what you said just before Tim put the chatter rightfully in its place.
They have made the choice to clearly provoke hostile forces here while also actively funding them, and they're doing so, and I know democratic consent is a farce in all of our respective countries these days, but without any democratic consent on any side.
Like, for the last few days, you specifically have been talking about how, essentially, the post-war narrative has been exhausted the further you get from the inciting incident.
Many of the wars that you opposed while you were under, as part of the Occupy system, has diminished your faith in the State Department.
But then on both sides of Gen Z, not only have you had surveys out where they say, I don't know...
anything about the Holocaust because the American education system is so poor, but on one side of Gen Z, the particularly, like, diverse diaspora that have bought into post-colonial narratives and all of the woke stuff that's been said to them via TikTok algorithms, they are fully paid on the side of Hamas, or they just want to jump on the social trend because it's a luxury belief.
On the other side, as you said, they're looking at the amount of money that is being spent, and they're saying, hey, for example, over in the UK, My... to get a house, it's 11 times the average income.
And I'm looking at that and going, okay, highest tax burden since the Second World War, all the public infrastructure is crumbling, you're mass-importing people, and yet we're now spending money on Ukraine and Israel?
Excuse me, I'm not wedded to this post-war narrative, I'm wedded to me establishing what those boomers had when they decided to sign me up for this before I was born, so I don't care about this.
And so, now, they're marching straight into what seems like an armed conflict, with zero consent of the people they expect would be conscripted to fight it.
tim pool
There's a word, a word for this.
I'm going to ask all of you and perhaps the audience.
What is the word used to describe when a military force establishes a base of operations on a beach?
phil labonte
Beachhead.
tim pool
It's called the beachhead.
A beachhead is a military position on an enemy coast from which an attack can be launched.
Now, if U.S.
troops are firing into Gaza, even if it's because they were being fired at first, I'm sorry, whether there's active firing or not, this is the U.S.
establishing a beachhead in the Gaza Strip.
It's an invasion.
hannah claire brimelow
Which we knew it was from the day they announced it, right?
I mean, I don't know that anyone really bought the Biden administration being like,
we're gonna put a pier there and we're gonna send an aid.
You know, we'll float it across the river.
We won't touch the land.
Everyone knew exactly what was happening from the beginning.
And I think this is the consistent reality of the Biden administration,
which is they think they can sell anything and you're going to believe it.
I was listening to this interview done with, it was the New York Times interviewing
young progressive activists asking them, are you gonna support Biden?
And I found it really interesting because they specifically interviewed
two different climate activists.
And one said, you know, I don't like it.
I'm a radical feminist, but I'm going to.
The other one was like, no, because I am specifically against
what's going on in Palestine.
And I would rather vote for Donald Trump than signal to the Biden administration
that it is okay what's happening there.
I mean, there are people who feel this so radically to their core, whether they fully understand the implications or not, that there is no way for the Biden administration to continue to sell this as something that they are doing as a humanitarian act.
People view it as a form of aggression.
tim pool
I just real quick want to add, we got a couple superchats, which we'll read in full later on in the superchat section, but someone made a joke about the Gazans complained the American MREs were a war crime, so they're going to be bringing in pizzas.
And then LTDust says, I was in infantry, man, those MREs are a war crime.
But I just want to stress, to people who aren't in the military, MREs are fun.
And it's like a fun thing to buy online and like have with your friends and open up and you're all laughing.
And if you're actually in, you're like, oh, not these again.
connor tomlinson
I'm just impressed that, for once, James Biden didn't get an infrastructure project deal in the Middle East.
tim pool
Aw, I know.
He must have been upset.
connor tomlinson
Yeah, I know.
I do wonder who exactly is making money out of this from either Congress or the administration.
tim pool
I gotta be honest, don't speak too soon.
I would not be surprised to find out that, you know, Joe Biden's bro has something, no matter how minor it may be, Some kind of contract.
Maybe it's to deliver paper plates.
Who knows?
But that's how his family operates, so I wouldn't be surprised.
We're gonna find out in like a year.
It's like, oh, Hunter was on the board of directors for the energy company that was supplying fuel and...
His brother, Jimmy Boy, was in charge of the contractors or something.
connor tomlinson
We had almost the exact same thing during lockdown.
So Matt Hancock, who used to be the health secretary until he was caught on the CCTV camera having less social distancing than he prescribed with a woman who wasn't his wife, he was also found to have given out contracts for PPE from a university friend and then pay for the disposal of said PPE to his sister's medical waste disposal company.
And it's just like, right, okay, so you're just setting policy to make sure that you get a kickback.
Also, funnily enough, in the UK, none of our parliamentarians have to report their stock earnings.
Unlike, at least in the US, where you know they're insider trading.
tim pool
I just pulled up the Merriam-Webster dictionary definition of beachhead.
An area on a hostile shore occupied to secure further landing of troops and supplies.
Foothold.
We've established a beachhead.
I mean, nobody wanted this.
Nobody signed off on this.
This war is not approved by Congress.
When was the last time a war was declared?
It was like Vietnam or something, right?
phil labonte
No, Vietnam was a police action.
The last time a war was declared was World War II.
Wow.
Even the Korean War was a police action.
tim pool
Here you go.
phil labonte
Anything that could have brought... Once nuclear weapons were pervasive, anything that could have brought in any of the big boys was considered a police action.
tim pool
Well, let's jump to the next story so everyone can understand what this means and is about.
From CBS News, White House considers welcoming some Palestinians from war-torn Gaza as refugees.
Do you see where we are going with this?
The establishment of their peer for humanitarian aid is an invasion, Lloyd Austin says.
If we're fired upon, we can return fire.
And he says, yes, Matt Gaetz, it is likely this happens.
And from the military times that Phil just pulled up, it's already happening.
This is a beachhead.
And now the White House is saying, perhaps the Palestinian refugees in this war-torn area will be brought to the United States.
Is this their strategy?
They invade Gaza, the IDF moves in, cuts the strip in half, the US builds a port of entry for supplies for the IDF to be secured by the IDF, and secures it with physical force to even shoot back at the people who are attacking them.
And then, they can simply say to those Gazans, don't worry.
If you don't resist, we will let you come to the United States.
phil labonte
I don't get what the US... like...
The Israelis don't need U.S.
manpower to handle Gaza, right?
hannah claire brimelow
Yes, Israel is equipped to defend itself.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, Israel, if they wanted to flatten every building in Gaza, they could do it.
They don't need U.S.
military, they don't need U.S.
bodies, they don't need it.
I think, my personal opinion, is the peer is the administration trying to make it look like they're doing something for the people of Gaza in order to get the voters of Dearborn, Michigan.
That's my inclination.
I don't see the military benefit to the U.S.
to have I mean, it's not like there's oil they can get or anything, you know what I mean?
tim pool
Take a look at this, though.
The Biden administration the other day accused Israel of human rights violations.
And this could cost Israel their funding.
Now, why would the Biden administration do that?
What if...
Big what if?
Big what if?
I don't know what the probability is.
The Biden administration comes out and says, you know, we built this pier to bring aid to the people of Gaza and Israel has gone too far.
What did Biden say?
He said, I condemn the anti-Semitism and I also condemn people who don't know what's going on in Palestine.
What's the likelihood that Biden tries to play it both ways and says, you know, we are concerned, young people.
You are right.
Israel is bad.
So we built this port and we're going to start loading up these Palestinians onto boats to send them here to be safe from what evil all Israel is doing and then basically removes the population to the strip.
Israel takes the strip and it's gone.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I do think Biden's solution to everything is mass migration from another country.
He's pretty committed to that.
What I thought was going to happen was they're going to put the pier there and say, look, it's there for humanitarian aid.
But these crazy people in Gaza keep firing at us.
So we have to do something.
And then they get to team up with Israel and, you know, wash their hands of the situation.
connor tomlinson
I've got two reads on this.
So, sources familiar with the matter have said that the State Department are not big fans of Bibi Netanyahu, particularly because you keep hearing messaging from the Biden administration, slash Biden if he knows what he's saying, when they're saying, take the win, don't retaliate, Washington did not sign off on the strike, etc.
So the Israelis are getting bold, because the Israelis are not thinking in the four-year election cycle, they're thinking intergenerationally, they're thinking Hamas is an existential threat, we need to wipe them out, and so we'll suffer the Criticism from the international community, many of whom, like South Africa, don't have a leg to stand on in the short term to secure a country for ourselves in the long term.
That is what their bet seems to be.
And so it could well be the Americans are establishing a beachhead here to have more of a say over Israeli military policy and to create some pressure on Netanyahu to get someone more compliant with the American State Department in future.
And also, it just so happens that, as you were discussing yesterday, the birth rate discourse is constantly Western, Anglosphere, European nations are sub-replacement population.
There was a recent report that came out from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation that said by 2100 all but two countries are going to be below replacement population, so we need mass migration.
And so they're betting, okay, if international instability manufactures consent for us to import people ad infinitum from here to there, who are also going to be government dependents who happen to vote Democrat, well, that's just kind of a happy accident.
We bump up the GDP and reinforce our ailing electoral numbers.
tim pool
If population growth goes, or I should say, if repopulation goes below replacement and they say we're going to use mass migration, what happens to those other countries?
connor tomlinson
They get massively depleted.
So Stephen Shaw, who's a documentary filmmaker, he's actually gone up to mountain communities and interviewed people and said, okay, what happened?
He went, all of our sons went down to the cities and then they went to the United States or Australia and that for Better life.
And now we don't see our children anymore and our local community is completely destroyed.
And so you cripple the ability to upgrade the infrastructure and the economy in those home countries.
But it's also because our politicians are looking at GDP, not GDP per capita.
So they only care about internationally comparative metrics.
So there's an incentive to build it expediently rather than over the long term.
And also they care about the four year election cycle.
So they'd like to fudge the numbers to be a one party state.
So of course they're going to mass import dependents.
Regardless of whether or not they have cultural incompatibilities, which is why you're now seeing mass protests in the UK and on US universities.
tim pool
It's interesting because we were talking about this before the show, and you said you were coming here as sort of a warning, and I was like, yeah, but, you know, the UK is more of like a 1984 thing, and the US is more of like a Civil War thing, you know?
connor tomlinson
Yeah, so the UK, to scare some people, we are a landmass smaller than New York State.
Last year, we had record levels of immigration.
We had 1.4 million people enter, plus 2 million visitor visas, obviously you get overstays.
We had net 762,000 immigration.
Plus an extra 50 to 100,000 illegals, so 800,000 people came into our country last year.
We built less than 200,000 homes, hence the stress on the housing market.
The NHS, which is our national health service, because we don't have free healthcare, we have the highest tax burden since World War II to pay for it.
Its budget has gone up year on year, and it still is not meeting pays for demands. They've also filled the gaps in the care
sector and the hospitals with foreign doctors and it turns out loads of them have come over on
fraudulent qualifications. There was a massive scandal the other week where a bunch of like Nigerian
students on Twitter were saying that they were filling out their aunt's, uncle's, mum and dad's
university coursework so they could go and work as nurses. So they have zero training whatsoever,
medical malpractice is through the roof, and meanwhile the government keeps turning around and
saying don't worry we're going to deport the illegal migrants just to distract you from the
overwhelming numbers.
Well, today, I'm happy to report that one person has been sent to Rwanda as a deterrent for a £3,000 stipend plus travel, and we're going to pay for him to be there for five years, and if he commits a crime like he did to break into the country, he'll be instantly stepped back.
tim pool
£3,000 stipend?
connor tomlinson
Yeah, they get paid to go there.
tim pool
That's ridiculous.
That's way too low.
How's he gonna survive off 3,000?
He needs at least five or six.
connor tomlinson
Oh yeah, it's not like they're in a luxury hotel or anything.
tim pool
It's horrible.
hannah claire brimelow
What's the likelihood that he commits a crime to come back?
Because that seems like an incentive to me.
connor tomlinson
Uh, given that he broke into the country in the first place, and now because of mass immigration, the UK is the number one country in Western Europe for crimes committed by people of foreign extraction, according to the American Department for Justice, so not a far-right conspiracy outlet.
Pretty high, yeah.
Not particularly pleasant.
So this is why I'm warning you guys, like, not being funny, your politicians clearly have a desire to rig the electoral game in their favour.
They are not thinking about long-term economics, given their modern monetary policy obsession.
And also, if they have an anti-white bias, they automatically think that people from anywhere else are morally superior by the virtue of them not being tainted by Western civilization.
So beware you don't become the United Kingdom.
Because at the moment, like, I couldn't- I don't think I could live anywhere else.
I have great admiration for areas of America, but it's just too big.
It's kind of weird.
I don't see my country turning around in the next five years.
And it's rough.
hannah claire brimelow
So you're just gonna go down with the ship?
phil labonte
If your country doesn't turn around in the next five years, there is no turning it around.
Or it's done already.
tim pool
Well, I think humans survive, humans adapt.
The country in its current form may burn to the ground, but I'll put it this way, like the Chicago fire.
The whole city burns, and now the city's massive, it's back.
And now, in other ways, it's kind of crumbling again, but I think it comes and goes in waves.
So, the one thing I think is important for everyone to remember, because people often ask us, like, with what's going on and what's going to happen in November, I'm so black-pilled, I'm so pessimistic, how are we going to win?
I can't see it, and I'm like, no matter what happens, be it the end of days or whatever, just remember, the Soviet Union lasted 69 years.
There are dark periods, and it takes those who believe in, you know, who have good values and good moral values
and traditions to just preserve those ideas and make sure that the spark of justice, liberty, et cetera,
can always stay aflame, even during these dark periods.
It's just not always gonna be easy.
I mean, the idea that you're always going to live in a golden age where everything will just be perfect,
It's just not correct.
Every generation has a great struggle of some sort, and we are lucky to be alive in the time that we are.
We are sitting in a room with air conditioning, well lit, talking to the world through little black boxes attached to the wall.
hannah claire brimelow
I've always thought electricity was great.
I'm not sure I could live without it.
tim pool
And so we resist the bad, but it's night and day.
It's a battle between good and evil.
And it's the Strauss-Howe generational theory, right?
connor tomlinson
This is why I think Gen Z are a bifurcated generation.
I'm working on a thesis on this.
So we're in a civilizational winter.
You've got the children of winter who follow, like, algorithmically-driven incentives.
They were raised on YouTube Kids and Elsagate-style content, and they are really resentful because their parents are away from them because they've been shoved in daycare, and they're constantly neurotic, and they don't know what they truly believe.
This is why they show up to these protests for social clout.
And they will wither and die as the incentives change.
Like, imagine if we have a civilizational collapse tomorrow.
They're not going to be able to scavenge in the woods for food.
You also have the kinds of people that are the seed gleaners of the deracinated soil.
It's like what Dennis Prager said years ago on your show, the cut flower culture.
Well, cut flowers have seeds.
They can be replanted when the seasons change and the soil is more fertile.
Hold on to those seeds until the pain passes, and then you might be able to plant them so they grow into the trees under which your grandchildren can sit.
That's the only thing I'm holding to, because... So, unless, like, a Bercayley equivalent for the UK comes along after the following election, It's going to be seriously an uphill battle to turn things around politically.
All you can do is double down on things personally and insulate yourself with the community so that when hardship happens, you've got people that love you that are there for you.
hannah claire brimelow
So do you think the personal choices that people are making is the best way to preserve the seed, so to speak?
connor tomlinson
I think it's the only way, because at the UK especially, there is currently one single politician that I say absolutely deserves to be there, and she's about to lose her seat because her party have just destroyed their reputation.
The next lot are about to put immigration again on steroids.
I know some people think that they're going to reduce it for politically expedient reasons.
I don't think so.
There is also a Muslim-exclusive party that is starting up, and so they're going to win in areas with high Muslim immigration.
Those areas just so happen to be the same areas where the grooming gangs were conducted.
Still, no accountability for those.
phil labonte
There's been nothing about that, huh?
There's no arrests or anything like that?
connor tomlinson
There have been a few arrests.
They have received, many of them, less jail time than recently a man who put up offensive stickers on email.
tim pool
Offensive stickers?
phil labonte
Unreal.
tim pool
Well, we can't stand for that.
connor tomlinson
No, no, no, of course, that'd be far right.
tim pool
Yes, right, when people put up the flyers everywhere that said, it's okay to be white, and the media reported far-right white supremacists.
Let's jump to this next story, because we do have a little breaking news.
The big news, of course, over the night was that Columbia had their Hamilton building, Hamilton Hall, if you want to pull this up, had been invaded by far leftists.
They smashed the windows out with hammers.
Columbia threatened to expel them after they had stormed in the building.
We now have some breaking news that came out just a few minutes ago.
We're gonna play this video!
Officers being assaulted on CCNY campus in New York.
I wonder if he means C-U-N-Y?
hannah claire brimelow
No, no, it's, uh, City College of New York.
tim pool
City College, okay, alright.
Reporters say situation is out of control.
Uh, here's the clip.
We'll turn the volume down a little bit.
unidentified
No! No! No! No!
tim pool
Pigs! Pigs!
And then we have this tweet from just before 8.
Colin Ruggs saying, Jewish girl at UCLA was sent to the ER after being beaten unconscious by pro-Palestine protesters.
The incident reportedly happened at Dickerson Plaza.
According to, quote, that Korean Jew on Instagram, who was a medical student at UCLA, the girl was surrounded by five people.
She suffered a concussion and was unable to recognize her family when she woke up.
Thankfully, she is in stable condition.
And then we do have another tweet here.
I mean, there's so much going on.
This is Anthony Cabasa, Who was surrounded by these extremists, they wouldn't let him leave, and then ultimately they say that he was robbed, his property was stolen.
I'm assuming they took his phone, I'm not entirely sure.
This following the insane videos out of Columbia's Hamilton Hall, where they're smashing out the windows, they're wearing these scarves over their heads, they're wearing masks and goggles as they take over the building, and their demands?
They have none.
The demands, actually, do I have the demand video up here somewhere?
I don't know if I do.
It's a woman basically saying, we want food.
We want food and water.
There's a reporter like, well, you went in the building.
What are you saying?
And she's like, we're just saying that we paid for meal plans and we want our food.
And it's like, but you went into that building.
Like now you're asking them to give you food.
hannah claire brimelow
You made it impossible for the university to operate.
unidentified
And then you're saying the university isn't providing the services you paid for.
tim pool
Then she's like, no, no, I'm just saying that they shouldn't bar us when we're trying to bring food in.
And then a reporter asks, have they done that?
And she's like, well, I mean, I don't know.
You know, I'm just saying they shouldn't.
connor tomlinson
The great irony is, like, we just had NatCon in Brussels and they did exactly that.
The Belgian police surrounded the venue, prevented the food and water from coming in, prevented sitting politicians from entering with this security detail, but these kids are doing it on a college campus because they know this is the ultimate safe space, because essentially the faculty, particularly at places like Harvard and the like, who have already indicted themselves as agreeing with this insane suicidal mind virus, they know they're not going to be cracked down on.
As they would were they elsewhere.
And so they are in a completely comfortable position to do this performance of activism.
tim pool
That's a good point as to why they're choosing to occupy universities.
Because the university doesn't want to kick out their customers.
unidentified
That's it.
hannah claire brimelow
That's why it's threatened to suspend, right?
This is going on everywhere.
They keep threatening to do it.
The students know ultimately they need their tuition money, and they don't think that Columbia will follow through.
Yale said that they threatened to suspend their students and arrest them, and then they closed down their encampment immediately.
The thing that is most interesting to me is that the NYPD can't go on to Columbia's campus without them.
There are a lot of colleges in New York, but Columbia is unique in the sense that it has a physical campus as opposed to NYU, which has buildings.
tim pool
So the NYPD can't go on to Columbus?
hannah claire brimelow
They have to have Columbia's permission to go on.
Columbia has its own police force, technically.
Obviously, they're doing a great job.
phil labonte
But it's... They're doing what the administration wants them to do.
unidentified
Right.
hannah claire brimelow
They can only go on if there's imminent threat of danger or if the university says it's okay.
And so these students know that ultimately it's worse PR for Columbia.
Columbia is not going to be able to make everyone happy.
And they are completely committed to what they're doing.
I don't think any of them actually care because they are completely deranged on the idea that they are serving this greater cause.
unidentified
Yeah.
connor tomlinson
Most you're going to get is a fine as well, because then they can just extract more money out of the students without seeing that they are rebuking the ideological priors which they have already wedded themselves to.
tim pool
In Florida, I think they said they banned the students for three years.
I say what the universities should do is no refunds.
You pay your tuition, no refunds.
You can't come back, but no refunds.
connor tomlinson
You can't support a prescribed terrorist group.
I mean, I have zero sympathy for these people when they're thrown out.
So, look, I'm not Jewish, I don't care about Israel more than I do Iceland, frankly, but when you are supporting a prescribed terrorist group that would also like to wage intifada or jihad against the host nation you are in, and you're actively damaging property, yeah, you should be persecuted for this.
The reason should not be, as you guys have talked about before, though, they're committing anti-semitic speech, because where were you when they were burning effigies of Michael Knowles in the street?
Where were you when they were actively discriminating against white people?
Or banging on the windows of Jordan Peterson's speech, trying to break in like you're a zombie horde?
tim pool
Well, Knowles is Catholic, though, so no one cared.
Excuse me.
But it's true.
There's no outrage because Michael Knowles is just a Catholic, right?
And so, there's a tweet.
I should have pulled it up, but someone said, so if you fire bomb buildings, take over cities, no one cares, but if you protest Israel, then it's shut down.
Right.
And Mike Cernovich says, at least that's what it looks like to a lot of people.
Now, you can make the argument that there's a lot of stuff going on here that's different.
We watched for months as Far Leftists firebombed a federal building.
They used explosives, mortars, in Portland, right?
They had the CHAZ in Seattle.
They had the George Floyd autonomous zone in Minnesota.
They had the Wendy's autonomous zone in Atlanta, whatever they called that one.
And they were allowed to just exist and take over a police station.
Now, they're smashing windows, sure.
They're still allowing them to stay there, so I don't know that the argument is actually what people see.
But the response from Democrats and the response from Republicans in government is more than we've seen for anything else.
So certainly, the perception is, if you actively oppose U.S.
foreign policy to the point where you're this rowdy, Yeah, they're going to have to shut you down.
connor tomlinson
It's the moral potency of the post-war order, basically.
So, since 1945 – and the European Union have recently come out of this with their continent-wide history curriculum – essentially, the atrocities of Nazi Germany serve as a negative foundation myth for the liberal world order.
And this is why they constantly say, Far Right.
What they mean is, Any nation, any ethnic group, any people, other than the Jewish people who were persecuted by the Nazis, who act in defense of their own culture, history, nation, or ethnicity, are identical to the Nazis, even if those nations fought Adolf Hitler.
For example, in the UK, we already have a Churchill statue.
You'd think that would be our Holocaust memorial.
But no, we're berolding one right next to Parliament, even though we were the nation that led the charge in defeating it.
So, what they've got here If these students, in the name of far-leftism, are attacking Jewish people in the state of Israel, that is more powerful than the anti-racism narrative, because the original inciting incident to the post-war order was the persecution of the Jews, and from there, all other groups are compared to it.
This is why, for example, slavery and the Holocaust are often compared.
And this is why, when Phil brings up repressive tolerance, this is actually, it's not just Marcuse, it's Karl Popper's original paradox of tolerance which was setting the tone for the post-war liberal order.
It wasn't just that we can't be tolerant of the intolerant, it was we can't be intolerant of the intolerant which are, quote unquote, the far right.
So the far right are always the boogeyman and this is where the far left are tolerated.
phil labonte
He articulates that in... Mark Hughes articulates that too.
He specifies that they must censor even the thought of people on the right.
That any ideas that they must censor before the thoughts can be uttered.
That's why they're so concerned about making sure that people can't speak ideas that are offensive to the left.
Because anything on the left is automatically good and anything from the right is automatically bad.
tim pool
They're hitting cops.
They're attacking people.
There's a viral video of a guy who's got- he's wearing a Star of David.
They won't let him on the ground.
They're barring him.
There's, uh, Anthony Cabasa, who's surrounded, and he says his property was stolen.
Okay.
Send in the police.
Rest them all.
Lock them all up.
Boot them all out.
We're done.
AOC comes out and she's like, we must make sure that the peaceful protesters are allowed to protest.
No, they can all go.
When these people in large groups tell other people you don't get free speech, they stand alongside in solidarity, then we take collective action.
So if 10% of this group are... I'll tell you this.
When I was at Occupy Wall Street and the subsequent protests, they have something called a diversity of tactics.
Are you familiar with the term?
Yes.
That means you must let other leftists engage in violence and not condemn them for it.
Allow them to do it.
You are marching in solidarity with people you know are going to be violent.
You know they plan on doing it.
You don't intend to stop them.
You're, you're, you're same group.
Same group.
You're just basically saying you've got a militant wing and a non-militant wing.
And you're saying, well, we don't agree, but we're going to let them do it.
We're, we're, we're, we're here standing alongside arm and arm with these people.
It's like, okay, look, no, the whole group, they all agree with this.
They all agree with the ideology.
They don't believe in free speech.
Then they don't get free speech.
I give them what they ask for.
And so be, so be it.
I think they should be happy.
They should be blessed.
These are people who think physical force should be used against people because of their political opinions, and now the police are intending to do this.
I say, wow, aren't you so lucky you're getting exactly what you think should be happening.
The thing about these far leftists, they don't understand, in these revolutions, the group that is targeted first by the revolutionaries is other revolutionaries.
The people who could upset their new power.
phil labonte
Yeah, the radicals.
The radicals that actually were part of the revolution become the biggest threat to the revolution.
tim pool
Exactly.
The people who knew how to do it, the people who did it, they want all of the passive workers who mind their own business to keep going about minding their own business while they take power.
And they seize the means of production.
But the revolutionaries know how to upset power, so they gotta go.
What these people don't realize is they've stood outside in the soapbox and demanded the police crush free speech.
And the cop walked over and said, obliged.
And then started arresting them and went, oh no, why is it happening to me?
And I'm not gonna bat an eye.
I say, okay.
I'm down.
Whatever.
connor tomlinson
If you flip over the game board, you don't get to be protected by the rules.
Sorry.
No passing go, no collecting $200.
tim pool
Yeah.
connor tomlinson
If you decided to violate the terms of the game, no.
You're not going to benefit from it.
tim pool
It's the rules they asked for.
They said, here's how we play now.
And I was like, okay.
And then they get hauled off to jail and they're shocked.
And they demand that I protect them?
No, no.
I'm here to protect people who agree with liberal values.
I said the other day, if there's a Muslim communist who is preaching on a soapbox why you should have Islamic communism in your state or whatever, And someone comes up to protest and counter them, and he says, good, someone to debate me, speak so they can hear your ideas and I'll prove you wrong.
I'd be like, leave these men alone.
They both want to speak, they both agree, I will defend their right to speech.
But these people physically attack people, and then get mad the police are attacking them, and I'm like, why?
It's your own ideology.
It is your tenant, enforced as you have asked it to be enforced.
It's just, oh no, I can't believe it's happening to me now.
Look, if a person sets a fire, Yeah, that fire could burn you.
That's the fire they set, and they're getting burned by it.
Okay, we want to make sure we put the fire out.
You know, I don't want people to get burned, but...
We arrest the arsonists, you know what I mean?
connor tomlinson
We've had protests in London for the last, like, seven months.
And even if they weren't violent, which they routinely are, they are calling for jihad and intifada.
And they're not in Israel, so they're calling for it against the UK, so you're declaring your intent to wage violent Islamic revolution, I would like you all locked up or deported accordingly.
But then, this is the major contrast that shows you that the far right are the real enemy in the post-war liberal mind.
It's that they have fired fireworks at police horses, they have carried placards with swastikas on them, they have chanted for Intifada, and they broadcast from the river to the sea using a projector on Big Ben during the ceasefire vote during Parliament.
Nobody gets arrested, even though they knew where the projector was.
But then on St George's Day last Tuesday, a bunch of football fans and their kids gather in Westminster wearing the St George's cross, which has been conflated with the far right, even though it's the national flag, the police kettle them in and charge a police horse through the group of parents and their children.
So they start active fights because they consider expressions of patriotism by the native population to be a provocation because it reminds them that suddenly we're not a melting pot with everyone being able to lose their values and their ethnic and cultural baggage the moment they set foot on British soil.
tim pool
So I do have the clip.
We'll take this out.
So for context, those just tuning in, These are the demands of the students of Columbia who have smashed their way into Hamilton Hall, taken over the building, barricaded it by force.
They have demands.
This is about a minute long.
You just need to hear what they have to say.
unidentified
Why should the university be obligated to provide food to people who have taken over a building?
Well, first of all, we're saying that they're obligated to provide food to students who pay for a meal plan here.
But you mentioned that there was a request that food and water be brought in.
To allow it to be brought in, I mean, well, I guess it's ultimately a question of what kind of community and obligation Columbia feels it has to its students.
Do you want students to die of dehydration and starvation or get severely ill, even if they disagree with you?
If the answer is no, then you should allow basic... I mean, it's crazy to say because we're on an Ivy League campus, but this is like basic humanitarian aid we're asking for.
Like, could people please have a glass of water?
But they did put themselves in that...
Nobody's asking them to bring anything.
We're asking them to not violently stop us from bringing in basic humanitarian aid.
We are looking for a commitment from them that they will not.
you please bring us food and water?
Nobody's asking them to bring anything.
We're asking them to not violently stop us from bringing in basic humanitarian aid.
They're stopping the delivery of food?
We are looking for a commitment from them that they will not stop us.
tim pool
They're not even doing it?
unidentified
Well, I don't know to what extent it has been attempted, but we're looking for a commitment.
tim pool
Okay, look.
phil labonte
Embarrassing.
tim pool
Very embarrassing.
We demand food and water because we pay for it, but you've taken over a building.
Now you want to play revolutionary and have them bring you food?
No, no.
We're just saying they shouldn't stop us from doing it.
Has anyone stopped you?
unidentified
No, but what are their demands?
hannah claire brimelow
Well they want Colombia to divest, and I'm not even sure any of them could explain that to you.
Divest from what?
From Israel, and I don't know, anything else they could come up with.
connor tomlinson
The only thing I could like steel man it, and they're not even saying this because they haven't thought it through, is to prevent Jewish students from coming there and to stop partnering with Jewish universities on research projects.
But nobody said that, so they don't know what their aims are.
hannah claire brimelow
No, they don't.
tim pool
There aren't any.
Like, let's be real.
One, I think it's fair to call a lot of it just general communism.
Only, what are those scarves called?
unidentified
Keffiyeh.
tim pool
Keffiyeh?
unidentified
Keffiyeh.
tim pool
Yeah, it's communism wrapped in a keffiyeh.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
That's all it is.
They have no idea what they're talking about.
They have no demands.
They smashed out windows, took over a building, and they're spray painting things.
It's just fire.
This is just a fire.
It is chaotic destruction with no aim.
It spreads.
That's all it does.
There's nothing here.
hannah claire brimelow
In some ways, taking over the building to me seems like the leaders of this organization are really losing control of what's going on.
The fact that they know they have to, they have the eyes of the world on them.
You know, over the weekend, a lot of protests that are similar broke out among college students in Paris and Europe.
tim pool
Wait, really?
In Europe?
connor tomlinson
Yeah.
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, look, we're trendy.
I don't know what to tell you.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, the BLM riots were breaking out all over Europe and stuff, and there was literally no reason for it.
Like, the context of the United States and the United States situation between the black population and the rest of the population and then the history and stuff, that is unique to the United States.
It is not the same in the UK.
It's not the same in the rest of Europe.
So the idea of having, like, BLM in other places is kind of ridiculous.
unidentified
Right.
hannah claire brimelow
And so with these students, they know they have momentum right now.
They know they're supposed to do something.
They also know they're facing pressure outside.
And I think probably it's just getting hot.
They don't want to sit out there anymore.
So they take over the building.
They have no plan.
They are getting groceries delivery.
Like there wasn't, this isn't a strategic thing.
I think they're all sort of trying to climb on top of this, this snowball as it, as it continues to roll down the hill.
But the thing is, you know, So, theoretically, if Columbia has any of its endowment tied up in an Israeli business, Columbia could say, okay, we'll remove the money from that.
But I doubt any of these students could name it.
I doubt they would say, hey, stop taking money from Jewish donors.
I don't think they could even name one.
tim pool
Look, Columbia, I'm gonna solve your problem right now.
You don't gotta do anything.
Here's what you do.
Columbia should come out and be like, for the safety and well-being of these students, we're gonna make sure that no one stops them from getting food or water.
Turn off the air conditioning.
hannah claire brimelow
Or the Wi-Fi.
Turn off the Wi-Fi.
And this is the thing.
Columbia has locked its campus so only essential personnel and students who live there, so who live in other dormitories attached to the campus, can go on.
But they're about to break for the summer.
Just turn off the Wi-Fi.
Let's see how long this goes when all these people can't get their orders from Twitter.
Yeah, but if you have enough, like, you know, university buildings in my experience often are terrible with service anyways.
I just think that, like, There is a certain level of how much longer can this go on.
This is why I pose the question every night.
Does this get more intense when more college students are free during the summer to sort of run to Hamilton Hall, which I guess they've renamed after a child that died in Gaza?
Are they going to have reinforcements from outside university students who find this really inspiring?
Or is it going to be like, well, they wouldn't let us get food from the bodega and campus meal service is over, so we have to go home now.
tim pool
There's a funny video.
There's a video where they're, like, handing styrofoam meal things from, like, one of those, uh, halal carts.
You guys ever have the halal cart stuff in New York City?
It's so good.
That's what I miss about New York City.
They do, like, the grilled chicken and rice, and then they put the tzatziki or whatever all over it.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
But anyway, they're, like, sticking them through the bars and holding the bars as if they're in jail, and it's just, like, offense.
It's like, dude, you can stand up.
hannah claire brimelow
Like, I don't... They're, they're, it's... No, Tim, they're suffering.
tim pool
This is college-age cops and robbers.
They're playing make-believe because they're bored and they have no purpose.
Idle hands, the devil's playground.
phil labonte
This is the symptom of this century, though.
There's so many people that have latched on to causes and said, we're the first person to do this, and then you go and you look.
It's something that happened in the 70s or 80s and find out that it was, you know, the first person did it 30, 40 years ago.
Talking about... It happens on PCC frequently.
For some reason, female actresses think that Terminator didn't exist.
They think that, like, women never wear in action movies in the 80s and stuff.
tim pool
Oh, right.
Alien, Terminator, Hunger Games.
phil labonte
They talk like they're the... I think it was... Kristen Stewart was one of them.
connor tomlinson
When she said Charlie's Angels, this is the first time we've had a female action movie.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
She's like, what are you?
Even what planet are you on and I feel like that happens a lot now It's like a lot of people that are talking about the activism and stuff like that.
It's like look man, like, you know, the The Civil Rights Act that happened in the 60s, right and things have been getting better since then We are not at like the worst time in US history for race relations Well, I've referred to this as an autoimmune disorder of society in that racism, bad, civil rights, good.
tim pool
And we come from a generation of people who fought for civil rights.
And, you know, my parents lived early in, you know, before the Civil Rights Act, before Loving v. Virginia deeply affected my family two generations.
And so I'm raised and they're like, these things are bad.
We do not like these things.
Millennials grow up, and it's like, redlining existed, but we got rid of that in the 80s.
The remnants of it still exist, we all agree, and we're working towards improving these things, but we've kind of policy-wise been like, yeah, we're gonna stop this race-based stuff.
And now you have 30-year-old millennials who are screaming about how bad racism is because they were taught as young kids it is, and there's no racism.
So what do they do?
They make it up.
Then there's activist organizations that make it on purpose to make money.
So now they've created the Ibram Kendi style of racism, which is, as Kendi said, he wants more discrimination to rectify past discrimination, and that's what they're doing now.
It's like an autoimmune disorder, in a sense.
Hey, we're fighting for good things, civil rights and liberties, but now that there's nothing to fight, they just begin attacking random institutions, cancelling people, destroying industry, and causing damage to the host culture.
connor tomlinson
Well, I see two things in this.
So, with this group of student activists in particular, I just see a temper tantrum from someone thrown in their twenties.
I say that with some scorn, but also some sympathy, because these kids, the Millennials and Gen Zs, are the first set of kids to be raised by institutions and the internet.
So if they don't feel a direct attachment to their own parents, in many cases a direct resentment to them, then they're going to try and find tribal identities in their peer groups.
And if you set the Luxury belief of I support anti-colonialism in a country I can't even point to on a map as the gatekeeping mechanism Then they'll all be drawn to it because they have no one in their personal life saying hey I love you put the phone down and come spend some time with me So I I just see this as them being like I'm gonna lock myself in the living room to play Xbox because you also still slide dinner under the door that's
unidentified
It feels similar.
tim pool
That's basically it.
Yeah, turn off the air conditioning and the protest ends.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, I think that's a really good point, though.
But just to reiterate, they're outside in tents.
Just the other day, it was 92 degrees here.
And it sucks because it was pretty wild.
Like two days ago, it was really cold.
It was like high 50s.
And, you know, I come in the studio, I'm like, it is freezing in here.
And we can't figure out to get the heat on.
And a day later, it's 92.
And now I can't even open the door.
I love having the door open behind me.
You can't see it, you're right behind me, there's that big, where, how do I point to it?
There you go, right there, you see that?
Normally, we could have that open, but it's so hot out.
Well, so these kids are in their tents, sweating their asses off, and they're like, someone needs to go in the building.
phil labonte
Everybody's butt stinks.
tim pool
Yup.
phil labonte
Yuck.
tim pool
They wanted bathrooms too.
phil labonte
Ew.
tim pool
So they're like, I know, let's take over the building and demand food.
hannah claire brimelow
I was listening to this interview today with someone who was there at the protest and it was pro-Palestine.
She was saying, you know, it's just, this is a really important cause.
And also it's finals right now.
So people are really stressed.
Like they, they do believe they should be afforded the right to act like regular university students while they staged this protest that again is disruptive to the entire university system.
I'm not, I'm not against them protesting, but let's be logical here.
If you're going to choose to protest and to break into a building, probably the school won't like it.
consequences. I mean, this is not that hard. I can't believe all of you got to Columbia.
Oh, wait, yes, I can, because Ivy League universities in America lower their standards constantly
to try and reach this diversity quota, which they have imposed on themselves, which by
the way, got you to this protest.
phil labonte
There's a Ross alert saying that eight minutes ago, breaking the NYPD expects to receive
a letter from Columbia University, requesting them to clear out the protesters from the
encampment within the next hour or two, as alerts have also been sent to the students
instructing them to shelter in place.
So this is going down.
tim pool
All right.
unidentified
Well, I We will we will bring you that news live on tipcast IRL.
tim pool
Hopefully it's awesome, too Well, look, the law will be enforced and we will back the blue on this one, baby.
hannah claire brimelow
I just want to point out, and I think I said this briefly last night, I don't think this is happening at Hillsdale, one of the only privately funded universities in America, right?
I don't think that even a university that has even a sliver of conservative students, this is happening on this level.
I think for the most part, it's happening at large universities that have an established, very integrated woke population that believes in progressive causes to an extent that becomes illogical.
tim pool
Well, while we're waiting for that news, let's jump to this story.
Ladies and gentlemen, Donald Trump has been fined for contempt.
He's got to pay $9,000 and Trump has responded.
He says, this judge has taken away my constitutional right to free speech.
I'm the only presidential candidate in history to be gagged.
This whole trial is rigged.
And by taking away my freedom of speech, this highly conflicted judge is rigging the presidential of 2024 election, election interference.
He had posted that and he deleted the posts.
I think that's actually crazy.
One of the posts I believe actually exonerates him.
Post Millennial reports Trump deletes Truth Social and campaign website posts under threat of jail from New York judge in the Alvin Bragg case.
Benny Johnson has compiled the posts that Donald Trump deleted, the most important of which is this from April 10th, where Donald Trump truthed out, I think that's what you call it, right?
He truthed?
hannah claire brimelow
It always should have been trumpeted.
He really missed a chance there, but...
tim pool
Uh, look what was just found while the fake news reported.
Official statement of Stormy Daniels, January 30th, 2018.
To whom it may concern, over the past few weeks I have been asked countless times to comment on reports of an alleged
sexual relationship I had with Donald Trump many, many years ago.
The fact of the matter is that each party to this alleged affair denied its existence in 06, 2011, and...
Actually, it says 20,011.
2016, 2017, and now again in 2018.
I am not denying this affair because I was paid hush money, as has been reported in overseas-owned tabloids.
I am denying this affair because it never happened.
I will have no further comment on this matter.
Please feel free to check me out on Instagram at TheStormAidDaniels.
Oh, check out her Instagram, there you go.
hannah claire brimelow
We love a plug.
tim pool
So what's the story on this letter?
Did she later come to deny it or something?
Or is the court saying it's not real?
What is this?
phil labonte
I have no idea.
hannah claire brimelow
I don't know the context of the letter.
I do know that the mainstream media presents this whole thing as they always talk about the affair as if it actually definitely happened.
tim pool
They're making Trump delete these posts.
If this letter is correct, and I'm assuming there's some context we're forgetting or don't have brought up, She was not paid, she's not denying it because she wasn't paid hush money?
Well, that kind of just breaks apart the whole case.
connor tomlinson
Perhaps it was submitted and ruled inadmissible.
And therefore, because it's already been ruled inadmissible, he, according to the judge, is breaking the conditions of the court because he's now just leaking it out somebody said it shouldn't have any impact.
tim pool
I mean, this is this is this is I think I'm pretty sure this letter is publicly known since 2018, right?
Or is this new?
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, is this part of the terms of the lawsuit that was brought against her where she still owes Trump like $600,000 in lawyer fees?
phil labonte
Was it even really an affair or did they just like boink once?
hannah claire brimelow
No, I don't think it ever happened.
phil labonte
Well, I think it happened.
hannah claire brimelow
I don't.
I honestly don't.
I think there are so many women out there who would see that Trump is running for president and get paid off that they would be like, yeah, OK, I had an affair.
phil labonte
I think Donald Trump has probably seen it with hookers before.
tim pool
From the AP.
A newly released, from 2023, mind you, March 2023, a newly released document shows a porn actor starring Daniels admitting she never had an affair with Trump.
AAP's assessment?
The signed statement with the denial was publicly released on January 30, 2018, not long after Daniels recanted the statement and said that an affair had occurred.
She said her denials were due to a non-disclosure agreement.
After that, she signed the statement because parties involved made it sound like I had no choice.
connor tomlinson
She's not a credible witness.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
And they say a grand jury has been weighing whether to indict Trump in a hush money case investigated by Alvin Bragg's office.
And this is a year ago.
I mean, those proceedings trump allies and others on social media attempting to cast the old statement to denying the affair as new information.
connor tomlinson
Well, there was an article in like 2005 or 6 from People Magazine or something like that, or it might be E!
Entertainment, that was speculating whether or not they'd slept together.
So, if he was trying to say, oh, I don't want this to come out during the election, It's already existed for ten years, so it can't have been that damaging if it was lurking on the corners of the internet.
tim pool
What I've heard so far in this case is that the prosecution has presented no evidence connecting Donald Trump to anything related to Michael Cohen or, what's his name, David?
Is it David Pecker?
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
phil labonte
Who?
tim pool
The National Enquirer guy.
And so, perhaps, later on, they're just waiting to bring that evidence?
Maybe it'll just be testimony from Cohen saying, oh, yeah, Trump was involved, but that's just Cohen.
He committed perjury, right?
unidentified
Right.
hannah claire brimelow
He did.
I mean, the other thing is today they had the banker who worked with Cohen to set up the payment and transfer them who testified that he didn't know what the payments are for.
He just had this ongoing established relationship with Cohen, his client.
And when I was listening to reports on the testimony, people are also noticing, noting that the jury is falling asleep.
I mean, really?
Oh, yeah.
I mean, to be fair, like if you've sat in a boring meeting before, like it happens to the best of us.
But on the other hand, this is getting to the point where it's not entertaining.
People are not engaged with it.
And in fact, they're losing the attention because it seems like it appears to be that the links they're trying to make are so weak, they're non-existent.
tim pool
So real quick, Aaron Pike on Super Chat says, scanner reading riot in progress NYPD spec op, so we'll be following that and we'll see what happens.
But for the time being, until we get more updates on what's going on with New York, we'll continue to talk about the jury falling asleep because this case is fake.
And I suppose the only real purpose of the trial is to jam up Trump, restrict his ability to campaign, restrict his ability to speak, and cost him lots of money.
hannah claire brimelow
Right, and the judge said today, I wish I could fine you for more, you know, in proportion to your income.
There's obviously a bias here.
There's a treatment that Trump is the enemy no matter what.
And again, this judge's daughter is fundraising off of this whole thing.
Seems a little suspicious to me, but who am I but an average American?
The other part is always, of course, that the judge continues to say, well, if you do this again, and there are four other issues, four other posts that are sort of yet to be ruled on, he's saying, you know, I'll throw you in jail.
And I had heard one report on MSNBC, I'm not totally sure how true it is, that there's a chance that the judge could instate this or impose this jail punishment After this trial concludes, so you still get that visual of Trump being locked up.
I mean, that sounds crazy to me, but this is where the American media and the justice system have decided that Trump is to be convicted in some court of opinion.
connor tomlinson
He should go for it, though.
And I think this is Trump's greatest flaw, and God bless him, he's a boomer, but when he keeps saying, they're taking away my First Amendment rights, True, yes.
If the Constitution and the morals of it are not written on the hearts of men, it just becomes a series of guidelines around which people who believe the only truth is power attempt to circumvent it.
And also he's complying with each of the processes as if it were fair.
It's like, no, they've directly targeted an exact amount in a prior case to try and confiscate Trump Tower from you.
The E. Jean Carroll case, which I would not dream of saying that she is a not reputable person because I don't want to be sued for defamation.
But to find him guilty of defaming her for saying I didn't rape her, but then not guilty of raping her is confusing to say the least.
So none of these procedures are on the up and up.
I say he just bites the bullet, continues to speak out, doesn't comply, because they're gonna try and jail him anyway.
That's probably the best campaign endorsement you can get.
tim pool
So SCNR has the reporting.
I'm assuming a lot is on scene.
Large NYPD contingent, including emergency services vehicles, heading towards Columbia University.
So we will stay with us and bring you more updates.
But I want to point out, as we're talking about Trump, we'll come back to this.
Oh boy.
So I was actually surprised.
And I was surprised when the DJT stock for Truth Social dropped.
So let's grab this.
We can see where that dip is.
When Trump, when the DWAC DJT thing merger happened with the SPAC, so many acronyms.
Special Purpose Acquisition Company, basically merging Truth Social, it spiked to $70.
So it had been, you know, around like $46 or whatever, $36 right before the merger, it closed at $36.94.
So I purchased, I think somewhere around like 10 of these shares, so we're talking a couple hundred bucks, and it was mostly, as I had stated, because You know, it's like a token.
It's like, you know, you get a little piece of Trump truth social that you get to hold on to, and I don't know if there's any reason to really sell it ever.
It's just to be like, oh yeah, you know, I bought a piece of truth social, right?
It's like a memento.
And then, this drop-off happened, down to $22.84, and the left lost their mind.
They're tweeting out, haha, Tim Pool, you bought all these shares, how much money did you lose?
And I was like, I spent a couple hundred bucks on Trump tokens for fun.
I didn't invest in this company substantially.
And now it's spiked back up to $49 above the average.
So it's just about $50 now, seeing a 7% over the past three months, recovering from the dip.
And better yet, Donald Trump has just earned a bonus of $1.8 billion based on performance.
So Trump's doing all right.
I don't know.
He's got money.
He's going to make money off this.
All of these attacks seem to be out of sheer desperation and it's all they've got left.
When you look at the polls, part of me is just thinking, you know, a lot of people want to believe the deep state will not allow Trump to win, but I'm kind of thinking that they run out of gas.
connor tomlinson
Well, my concern for your country is that no matter who does win, and of course this election will be just as safe and secure and free and transparent as the last one, nobody's going to accept it anyway.
Like, the last election that was properly accepted was probably 2012, and I think that's because the Republicans thought everyone was playing by the same rules and also they kind of knew Romney sucked.
Democrats didn't accept 2016.
They certainly haven't accepted 2020 and Trump's grumblings about it.
tim pool
Republicans haven't accepted 2020?
connor tomlinson
Well, the Democrats haven't accepted the fact that Trump has some spirited objections to it either, but the Republicans also have not accepted the result.
I won't say anything on YouTube.
2024, it doesn't matter if, like, the ballots are counted live on a giant screen in Times Square via blockchain.
Nobody's gonna buy into it if they just don't like the result.
So I hesitate to see what's happening, but I'm not gonna be visiting in November, I can tell you that.
hannah claire brimelow
You don't want to see our patriotic fireworks that come with every election?
tim pool
It's getting crazy.
I gotta pull up the Post Millennial right now.
Libby's hitting me up with some updates here.
Let me see if I can get it to load real quick.
Alright, here we go.
Ah, this takes me back.
It's been 13 years.
Since, uh, 12 and a half, since the purging of the Occupy Wall Street protests, but seeing hundreds of NYPD officers move in on Columbia occupation, officers mobilized in 113th, apparently they've cordoned off Streets from 113th to 118th surrounding the Morningside campus.
As officers approached, it was reported by Omar Jimenez, who reported on the fiery but mostly peaceful protests in Kenosha, that Columbia University students have been ordered to shelter in place as a large group of police officers is amassing outside the gates of campus.
Here we go!
So we're live, tracking what's going on.
We've seen police preparing.
We obviously have this from at TimCastNews on Twitter.
We've got a large NYPD contingent, including emergency vehicles, service vehicles, are heading towards Columbia University.
Look at that!
Oh boy.
connor tomlinson
Yeah, that's great.
Where was this when David Dorn was being murdered?
That would have been really helpful, wouldn't it?
tim pool
Well, I mean, did the guy who attacked David Dorn say anything about Israel?
connor tomlinson
Yeah, exactly.
hannah claire brimelow
I only have one motivator in this country.
tim pool
Yeah.
Uh, no, he was stealing a TV or something like that.
So he thought it warranted taking, I mean, that's just, what a horrible, the summer of love, man.
They did nothing, but look, you know, people are going to say, they're going to say, you see, that's Trump versus Biden.
They're going to say Biden had no problem calling in the troops, shutting down whatever you want to call it.
They're going to call it an anti-Semitic protest and all that stuff.
And they're going to say that Trump wouldn't.
Trump allowed it to happen.
hannah claire brimelow
They're going to say that.
But again, this is leftist infighting on, you know, what is essentially a bastion of academic progressivism.
Columbia University, one of the most, Ivy League University in the center of New York, or not in the center, but in New York City.
I think ultimately, It might work for 10 seconds that Biden might say, oh, well, I called in the troops, but his base is going to say, you called it on us.
We don't want to vote for you.
We don't like you.
You take TikTok away and you won't let us fight for, you know, Palestine or whatever the cause of the month is.
And this will ultimately, there's no recovering from any of this for Biden.
I don't know that his team is capable enough to be able to spin this in a positive light for his campaign in the next year.
And that's why I think you get this sort of confidence move from the Trump campaign when he has the Time Magazine interview.
And I think that's why you see these mainstream publications starting to acknowledge like, hey, actually, the challenge to Trump is not that great.
He's in the best position to win the White House that he has been in the last two election cycles, which means the one he lost, but also the one he won.
I mean, if they're not telling you that they're sort of looking that they might have to concede.
you're not reading the text here.
connor tomlinson
But that was a Davos crowd at the last year's, well, this early year's World Economic Forum meeting. They were saying
we're expecting another Trump presidency. And so we're gonna
have to grapple with the resurfacing specter of populism. And it's like, okay, well, if if the elite are
essentially planning for Trump to come in, brace for impact.
tim pool
I just want to say thank you to the men and women of the New
York City Police Department, who are getting rid of these violent
anti-Semitic protesters, and I cheer for their removal and law
and order in this regard.
Um, I'm half-kidding.
I don't really think the protests are wholly anti-Semitic.
I think there are anti-Semites there.
I think there have been anti-Semitic things.
But, uh, for the most part, I think they're communists who have no idea what they're doing and are protesting nothing, and they're vandalizing and smashing things and attacking people.
And, uh, they don't believe in free speech, so I will cheer when they don't get it either.
So thank you, NYPD.
There you go.
connor tomlinson
Yeah, I will say the UK protests have a slightly different flavor, just because we have a very different demographic reality.
Like, these are clearly...
Terminally online gay race communists, whereas there is a strong Islamic current to the ones in the UK, and again, like, anti-Semitism is not the angle I'm gonna attack it on, because I'm not Jewish.
They just, they also hate England, so therefore I want them gone.
But I think it's fair to say, I'll invoke Douglas Murray's analogy here, when he asked Piers Morgan Well, Piers Morgan said, oh, why do you want these protests shut down, even if it's just 10% that are firing fireworks and calling for jihad?
And he said, well, if you went on a march on week one and you found that the British National Party there were calling for the murder of all black people, would you not question whether or not you should go on week two, and then by week three you'd probably call it quits, if they kept saying the same thing?
Because I would.
And so, you're right to say that these people Well, here's the challenge, too.
I mean, we saw with BLM, they posted a picture of the paraglider, the Hamas paraglider, they're celebrating it.
with people that constantly lionize them as some kind of revolutionary hero.
tim pool
Well here's the challenge too, I mean we saw with BLM they posted a picture of the paraglider,
the Hamas paraglider, they're celebrating it.
From the river to the sea, it is a word game manipulation to claim that it has nothing
to do with, it means the eradication of Israel.
Okay, you can't come out and say, Israel doesn't exist, it's an occupation of Palestinian land, and we want from the river to the sea, Palestine to be free, but they're not calling for the destruction of Israel.
So, they literally are.
And then I ask people and they're like, no, no, we're just saying that the people of Gaza should be, the Palestinians should be free to return to their home.
And I'm like, and they think their home is where?
Yeah, right, the rest of Israel.
So it's like, clearly it's just war.
This is the problem I have with everybody.
From the staunchly anti-Israel to the staunchly anti-Hamas, pro-Israel side.
Like, dude, look.
And I suppose this will be viewed as more pro-Israel, I guess.
It's war.
And it's pro-Israel only because Israel's winning.
It's war.
And Israel's winning.
Sorry, thanks, have a nice day.
I don't care to be involved.
I am livid that the U.S.
is invading.
We should not be involved in this.
They lie, cheat, and steal to get our troops involved in this.
I don't have anything to do with it.
I don't care about the moral qualms of the religious holy land and the two groups, or whatever, three, that are fighting over this.
I don't want to be involved.
So it's war.
Congratulations.
War is bad.
Bad things happen.
People do bad things.
phil labonte
People that are looking for, you know, they say Palestine will be free, you know, from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free or whatever.
There is no outcome.
That is going to be peaceful unless it's wiping out all the Jews, right?
Like that is kind of obvious.
I don't care what anyone says because they're gonna sit there and they're gonna try and act like they're gonna make the argument that no, it's actually about Israel, blah, blah, blah.
But I say this all the time.
Even if you get rid of the walls and you allow the people of Gaza to mix freely with the people of Israel, there are enough people in Gaza that want to kill all the Jews that they would end up killing all the Jews.
That's all there is to it.
tim pool
This is why I'm just...
phil labonte
It's not all of them.
tim pool
You know, we had Elad Eliyahu on the show recently and he said something to the effect
that we were talking about criticism of Israel's military stuff and he goes like, but don't
you think that's kind of anti-Semitic?
And I'm like, no.
If Israel is blowing up civilians, criticizing a military operation has nothing to do with
the religion of it.
When the U.S. invaded Iraq, I didn't say, these Christians, how dare they?
It's Christian.
No, it's the degenerate warmongers.
And when Islamic nations engage in the Saudi conflict with Yemen, it's like, I'm not blaming the religion unless it is like ISIS, in which case it's the specific sect of this religious ideology they're engaged in.
But the challenge I see with Israel is that The people who are protesting, for instance, at Columbia, who identify as Jewish and wave an Israeli flag because it is the only Jewish state, they don't see a difference.
They think that they have a right to have a state, and calling for the destruction of their state is calling for the destruction of the only Jewish country, so their view is that you're basically saying Jews don't get a country.
That, they would say, is anti-Semitic.
Fighting a sneeze.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, I'm just waiting for Secretary Lloyd Austin to build a port in the Hudson River, sort of across from the Columbia campus.
He's not going to send in the military.
He's just going to set it up nearby in case they need humanitarian aid.
Maybe he can send them some food and water.
connor tomlinson
Well, if I may say something that was going to sound very contentious, but I think may offer Jews who feel politically homeless right now an alliance.
Israel, when they accuse Israel of being an ethnostate, to a degree it is because
Judaism is both a religion and an ethnicity, right? Even though you have a
large proportion of Arabs living in there. I don't know why that's a problem.
This is my point, right? This is my point. So, demographer Paul Morland works for
George Peterson's Ark, so again not a far-right figure unless you're insane.
He war-gamed out demographics for the UK, Japan, and Israel.
And he said, okay, the UK has low birth rates, high immigration, low ethnic cohesion.
With current trends, by 2083, we're going to be 54% first-generation immigrant.
That is not a country.
That is majority of people arrived yesterday.
There is no culture there.
Instead, he, as a Jewish man, said, as a Jewish man living in a normally white Christian country, I would quite like England to be like Israel.
To have a cohesive national identity, a cohesive religious identity, to have high birth rates, to have high GDP per capita, to have low migration, particularly from the nations that want to do you harm.
And so, I can accept, even though I have major theological differences with Israel as a Catholic, I can accept the Israeli argument for national determination and national sovereignty if they are also willing to cooperate with their partner states like the US and the UK to have those same policies without calling it anti-semitic, racist or far-right.
I think that would be a fair compromise.
tim pool
I don't care as much with... I think the issue that we have in the United States is mass unchecked immigration, illegal immigration, and if it were regulated properly with assimilation, we seek to maintain our culture, and those who come here must abide by and live by this.
The example I would use is the turn of the century, the turn of the 1800s and 1900s, when many people were emigrating here, and they said, we're going to learn English, you're going to learn English, I know people whose grandparents said, you will not learn the language of your home country.
And I'm like, wow, I mean, that goes a little far.
But people came from Italy, they came from Ireland, and they said to their kids, you will learn English and you will not learn Irish because you will be American.
And then what happened is we got America.
I mean, people wanted to be a part of what we were doing.
They wanted to share in our culture.
And now what we have over the past couple of decades is people who are coming here bringing a different language, creating basically isolated racial villages, like these little enclaves, which creates, the segregation creates animosity and hatred, and it leads to violence.
And then we have this idea of multiculturalism.
Multiculturalism, they try to masquerade using their word games as the melting pot where everyone lives together.
No, what they're really doing is creating segregated pockets where people don't like each other.
And you can't have two different cultures that completely hate each other try meshing together.
It's like oil and water.
phil labonte
So the multicultural thing is different from the melting pot.
What I grew up with as a Gen Xer, we had the melting pot, which was the idea that people would come to the United States and you would assimilate.
We all came from different places, but we all came to the United States.
We became American, and that was something that was normal.
The multicultural idea is something that is different from that.
If you go and you say that we're a melting pot nowadays, you get corrected by intersectional people.
They say that it's racist, that it's bad.
Which, in my opinion, I don't see why it's bad to say you should come to the United States and try to be an American.
What you guys have going on over in the UK, which we were discussing a little bit earlier, is a little different.
In England, there are English people.
In Scotland, there are Scottish people.
In Ireland, there are Irish people.
Hypothetically hypothetically, but in America there are no there isn't like any kind of ethnicity that makes you
American America has is unique in that you can come to America buy
into the values and you become an American I do other point of disagreement
But other places in the world don't have that and I don't see why there are people that have an objection to
England being full of English people Japan being full of Japanese people
Pakistan being full of Pakistani people I don't understand why there is, is why people act as if that is something offensive when that is the most natural thing in all of human history.
You know, people that are from a certain area tend to be, you know, that's where they're from.
It's like, there's nothing wrong with India being full of Indian people.
tim pool
Have you seen, you know this better than all of us, what's going on in Ireland?
Can you break down, because I saw like a picture of graffiti and it said Irish only or something?
connor tomlinson
So, Ireland has a population of about 5 million and in the last couple of years they've taken in about 100,000 so-called refugees.
Lots of them as well are coming over because since the Good Friday Agreement, after all the IRA troubles, Northern Ireland and Ireland have a permeable border, so you don't have to show a passport to get across from the part of Ireland that's connected to the UK to Ireland, which is independent.
And so many people that live in the UK are going from England, Scotland or Wales over to Northern Ireland, just walking across the border and claiming asylum in Ireland.
So it's putting a hell of a lot of stress on the Irish immigration system.
Also, people are very angry because I believe the politicians themselves own a lot of the hotels they're putting the migrants up in, so the politicians are making a lot of money.
And Shortly after a schoolteacher and a couple of children were stabbed and they found out that this man was a migrant who had settled in Ireland for many years and clearly hadn't integrated, the Irish politicians were saying, diversity is our strength, you're a racist if you notice, the Irish people started protesting en masse and the protests continued to go on.
And the reason this is happening in Ireland and not in England is because the Irish still have a strong sense of ethnic identity.
Like, George Orwell wrote about this well before.
Celtic nationalism, so that's the devolved administrations, England, Scotland, Wales... Not England, sorry.
Scotland, Wales, Ireland.
Their identity is often born out of anti-English sentiment, even though they're a similar ethnic group.
And so, if they feel like the Irish ethnic group is being incurred upon, not just by the English, but by other ethnic groups that are exploiting their lax asylum system, they will kick up a stink about it.
And so they're like global managers that are currently in the Irish government.
Ironically, Sinn Féin, who were the political...
wing of the IRA are now diversities of strength flying the rainbow flag. The Irish Patriots are
fighting Sinn Féin, which I can't believe I as an Englishman are on the side of the Irish Patriots,
given, I mean, half Irish as well, so, you know, for my sins. But that's basically what's happening,
is the island is being disproportionately flooded with migrants and the Irish people
are kicking up a stink. I will say, though, with the American context, I do think there is
an unexamined amount of priors baked into the America is an idea belief, because almost entirely
the founding fathers were Englishmen, they thought of themselves as Englishmen, and liberalism is
essentially how...
How Englishmen think of themselves, like the Magna Carta and social custom, extracted out of England and transposed on other places.
This is why it doesn't work, why you can't export democracy to Iraq and the like.
And the problem you have is that you've transposed liberalism onto old world nations under American hegemony.
So now England, even though it has an ethnic identity or Germany and the like, are compelled to act as if they are America.
And then noticing that people that come from other countries and have ethnic and historical and cultural baggage and don't overnight assimilate into the melting pot, which is, I think, kind of cruel to expect them to just lose their memory as soon as they actually step into a country, if you say that might cause conflict, that is itself far right.
So treating England and the like like America, and America thinking that there isn't also an ethnic component to its founding, has led to a lot of conflict.
I would rather we were just honest about these things.
tim pool
I think the politics of Ireland, considering everything that's going on with mass migration, is very interesting.
I assume you've been to Belfast.
connor tomlinson
No, no, no.
tim pool
You've not?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Because I would assume, you know, the people in the area are much more likely than I are other people.
But I went there, and I saw the peace wall, and One side is pro-Palestine, and the Irish, they compare themselves to the Palestinians under occupation.
And the other side is pro-Israel.
And there's actually graffiti painted by people who claim that the Irish there are a lost tribe of Israel.
And what you see is hyper-tribal politics.
Based on whether it was Northern Ireland, the UK versus Ireland itself.
But it gets really interesting then.
With the EU and the Schengen zone, The border's dissolved, and now you can freely move about Northern Ireland and Ireland as if the conflict is over.
It just kind of stops.
And then you end up with mass migration into Ireland among people who had been fighting for hundreds of years to preserve and revive their language.
I saw graffiti in Gaelic, I believe that's what it's called, right?
And it was explained to me by a local that basically Irish people are, they're teaching it, they're trying to restore their language, it was taken from them, they don't like the British and all of these things.
And then we see the EU mass migration stuff.
There was a video where someone, I think they were in Derry, is that the name of the city?
I'm not sure.
They asked people what the most common name was.
Did you see this video?
You saw this one, right?
Was it in Derry?
They're in some Irish city.
I don't know anything about Ireland.
But they're like, what do you think the most common name born to someone in Ireland was this year?
And they're like, Thomas?
And things like that.
And they're like, Mohammed.
And the people there get shocked.
connor tomlinson
Same in London.
tim pool
Yeah, and they're like, no, it's Mohammed.
hannah claire brimelow
They're totally terrified because they think people were sold this immigration isn't happening, you're not allowed to acknowledge it line for so long.
But I think ultimately, the Irish people are a great example of the stabbing reference from what I remember about it, the students attended a Gaelic specific school, they were being taught a specific language.
And so again, you know, Crime against lawful citizens by people who are in countries illegally happens all the time in a lot of countries.
But again, to have this prime example of people who are the future of your country trying to learn a native language being attacked and targeted by someone who's not even in the system legally is extremely painful.
And I think you're right.
I think America doesn't acknowledge the fact, we sort of take for granted the fact that we're actually born of European nations.
And it gave us the foundation of who we are.
I think it is important.
I think it's complicated because America is such a large geographic nation that our immigration patterns change over time.
On the other hand, ultimately, all of the values when we talk about American values, for the most part, are derived from some form of pretty much British but European doctrine.
And I think that makes a lot of people uncomfortable to acknowledge because it's like saying, well, we're a European nation or we're, you know, we're generally founded in a culture that might seem as though we're not allowing other people to be here.
The problem with a lot of immigration, I think, ultimately comes when you ask, you say, you know, you can come to my country, but you have to, you know, learn a language and adopt our values.
If we can't clearly articulate our values ourselves, if we don't know where they come from, or if we don't have any sort of institution that's helping us maintain them, then what are we really asking you to do?
And if you were coming here, why would you do that?
Why would you leave something that gives you structure, purpose, and meaning To just jump into the void of, well, we're trying not to stop on anyone's toes and we don't want to do anything that might upset someone else.
I mean, a strong cultural tradition is good for the people.
It gives order and helps maintain structure without the need for government to force it down your throat.
connor tomlinson
Yeah, so this is why I'm gonna, and Phil's about to give me daggers, I'm gonna blame the whole thing on liberalism.
And the reason is, and this is from the American founding as well, when you take Christianity as the foundational Jenga block out of the tower, all you have left is the faulty anthropology of the 17th century, which has taken on a new and hopeful power after the Second World War, because the Second World War, the narrative is of course anti-Semitism and racism fueled the Nazi war machine.
The hope is that we are all fundamentally blank slates.
This is why guests that have been on your show, Ava Vlodynia-Brooke, recently at CPAC Hungary,
mentioned Renaud Camus' great replacement. That is not what has been taken actually by
Thakur Kalsom Vivek Ramaswamy to mean top-down ethnic replacement.
It is actually—Camus's original speech was given to Jews, ironically enough, so it's not an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory—it's the treatment of human beings as some, like, undifferentiated human mass that if you pick them up from one place and drop them in another, they're infinitely moldable to market demand and cultural demand.
And also, with the liberal anthropology of the blank slate, it essentially says that we existed in a state of, like, perfect freedom and perfect equality before civilization.
Not the case.
But that sets up an antagonistic relationship with culture itself, with the current structures of liberal governance itself.
And so, all you've got to do is erase the cultural pressures, for example, the domestic expression of patriotism, like flying your national flag, to infinitely accommodate outsiders, and the outsiders will just melt into the pot, lose all their values, become productive citizens, because deep down, we're all fundamentally the same.
It's like, well, if we were all fundamentally the same, we didn't evolve under different conditions, where would all these cultures come from?
But that's never reconciled in the mind.
And it's never reconciled in the mind because of a, I think, utopic, but in some ways desirable thing, as you said, of, we want to end racism forever.
tim pool
You know, I heard that Asians are more likely to be lactose intolerant.
In fact, highly likely.
But also, in Japan, they have a more likely to have a gut bacteria that allows them to break down cellulose.
because they don't drink milk and they eat seaweed.
And so the gut bacteria that helps break down cellulose became common in the people who had a high
cellulose diet. And that's funny because I actually I'm not, I don't drink a lot of milk.
I have to, I have to, I'm part Asian, so I have to, and I'm like, oh, I wonder if that's related
to it. Cause that's what they say. Now these conditions are obvious to anybody. Yes. Like
people in Asia eat rice, eat seaweed, or I should say more Japan that seaweed is a staple part of
of like you get sushi you get seaweed And then you come to the United States, and it's more animal-based, animal fats and milk and cheese and all that stuff.
Different diets result in different things.
You take a person, Who grew up in a region where they only eat one kind of food.
Don't be surprised if they have food allergies in the other region.
But they act like these things don't happen.
I do want to bring something else up about what you were saying.
Have you ever played Fallout New Vegas?
connor tomlinson
No, I've dabbled in three.
tim pool
Anybody?
No.
So in Fallout New Vegas, there's two competing factions in a big war.
Fallout, I'm bringing it up only because the show is now live and most people, like millions of people started playing the game so that I get the reference, but there's Caesar's Legion and the New California Republic that are fighting.
And I saw this great meme.
Caesar's Legion is an authoritarian, it's ridiculous, it's like a guy who calls himself the Kaiser, and he's ruling with sheer force as opposed to apocalyptic, so they don't know what they're talking about.
And someone made a meme where they were like, you know, he was kind of crazy, but he's kind of right though.
And someone responded to this authoritarian despot character, they were like, this just goes to show you why people support authoritarianism and allow these things to happen.
Because you take anyone with any amount of charisma, who can point to an obvious problem, and then claim they have the solution, and people will be like, he's right though, even when they're an insane dictatorial monster.
phil labonte
Pretty privilege is real.
If you get someone that's charismatic, that's attractive, and that doesn't mean necessarily pretty, but attractive and charismatic, you can get people, people will believe all kinds of crazy stuff that comes from someone they like looking at.
connor tomlinson
So why else is Trudoki getting voted in?
tim pool
Because he did that thing on the table where, you know, you see that thing where he did that arm press on the table?
hannah claire brimelow
He could, like, hold himself up.
tim pool
Yeah, it was like the yoga thing and, you know, I guess suburban moms like that.
So we do have an update from Michael Tracy, NYPD cops storming Columbia University.
He says, I was just chased off the sidewalk.
Thank you so much for keeping us all safe from a non-existent anti-Semitism.
Hopefully now Israel can continue to pulverize Gaza in peace.
Michael, you're very biased.
phil labonte
in this one. Slightly. Yeah, very biased. And Michael, next time you're going to chase someone
around New York, you shouldn't look like a disheveled old man. You should at least be
tim pool
clean looking. Yeah, and I don't see why he was following her around. Anyway, for those who don't
know, there was a woman Michael said was claiming she was being barred for being Jewish. Justine
Murray, she said. He claims they weren't letting anyone in and she was lying or whatever, but he
follows her around and she's like, stop following me around.
Like, yeah, you probably should have done that.
He says, NYPD now frog marching Columbia students down the street after snatching them off campus.
Thank you NYPD for protecting us from these dangerous college girls.
Hail Netanyahu.
I think Michael's a little biased on this one.
A little biased.
But thank you for the videos.
The videos and the updates.
hannah claire brimelow
I love snatching them off Columbia's campus.
They're children being stolen from kindergarten.
connor tomlinson
Yes, a child catcher from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.
Thank you for the hyperbole.
It's really adding to your credibility here.
hannah claire brimelow
I think what you're saying about the gut biome in Japan is really interesting.
So my family is all from Northern England.
It's on both sides.
My mother and father's side is from either Ireland or Northern England.
And my cousin went to St.
Andrews and she had grown up in the States and she said her skin has never been better.
And I always think that's funny because it must, you know, be humidity or something, you know, whatever the air is.
But I do think that there is a level of, you know, we think one generation changes everything.
If you just have the child of immigrants grow up in another country, you know, they'll be perfectly assimilated if you send them to public school and it'll be okay.
But that's just not the case, right?
I mean, our genetics don't change that quickly and neither do our ideas and formation.
I think you can be incredibly influenced by where you grew up, but I think there are There are bigger determinations than just, oh, well, I graduated from an American high school, so I'm an American now.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
Connor, you were saying that, so it's your opinion that liberalism leads to this.
connor tomlinson
Yes.
phil labonte
Right?
And you were saying that liberalism wants to make everyone the same?
connor tomlinson
Yes.
Universally homogenous, yes.
phil labonte
I don't see where that, how that argument makes sense.
It's my opinion, my understanding that liberalism looks at the individual first, not the collective.
So I don't know how you square that circle where you think that, or where, I don't understand your argument how liberalism actually makes people homogenous and makes them into a collective.
connor tomlinson
Because it believes that before civilization, and it believes that civilization is a rationally ordered thing that adapts to scarce material conditions, we were all blank slates that existed in perfect equality and perfect freedom.
Like, that's a direct Locke quote.
phil labonte
Rousseau had an even more insane- I don't even- see, there- this is another thing that I take issue with, and I am- I'm of the opinion that, um...
Oh man, I can't remember his name now.
Anyways, I'm of the opinion that Rousseau was not an Enlightenment guy.
People make the argument that Rousseau was an Enlightenment guy, and I actually reject that because Rousseau wanted to make man like savage man but living in cities.
He rejected the idea that we could know reality well enough to use use reason to order our lives.
He said that reason was faulty.
He said that emotion is a more real and true way of knowing reality.
So I don't think of Rousseau as friendly to the Enlightenment at all.
connor tomlinson
I can bring the two together.
So the reason that Locke believed that civilization came into existence was that it was rationally ordered to cope with material scarcity, right?
unidentified
Okay.
connor tomlinson
Yeah, so Locke and Rousseau have the same anthropology in that they believe that man
existed in the pre-civilizational state, they had an equal nature, they were tabula rasa,
and that taking them out of civilization made them less equal and less free.
Locke believed that this was preferable, Rousseau believed this was akin to a fall out of Eden.
So the liberal dream is essentially to upgrade material conditions and plan society enough
to get back to the state of nature, where you have fewer reliances on one another, so
that you're not likely to have your freedom impinged upon.
And also, you have equal and plentiful material conditions, so you have nothing preventing the expression of your will.
Rousseau thought you'd do that for a totalitarian state.
Locke thought that you had to do that for a degree of compromise.
The problem is, if you generate enough abundance as to where property rights are no longer a concern, You can just procedurally generate stuff.
phil labonte
See, I understand how you're saying that that's Rousseau, but I don't feel like that's liberalism.
I feel like Rousseau and the direction that he went in led to a completely and totally isolated philosophy from what we got from Jefferson and from Locke and from the founders of the country and the same people that the English Enlightenment is really descended from.
connor tomlinson
Well, Burke was definitely not a liberal.
So, the reason is, they start from the same framework, and so Locke took off because he made obviously more sense under material scarcity, but as we have generated the material abundance that has been enabled by liberalism, property rights, and the scientific revolution, Locke's arguments can be outpaced by Rousseau, because people can start to conceive of themselves as having so much stuff they don't have to worry about rationing it.
phil labonte
I think my disagreement comes because that is where it stops being liberalism, in my opinion.
connor tomlinson
It becomes something else.
But they have the same view of human nature.
phil labonte
I understand the genesis, the argument you make, and we could probably talk, I don't want to take over the whole show, and we could talk about this going on.
tim pool
This is great.
phil labonte
This is something that I've heard a lot of post-liberals talk about, and it drives me insane because I don't understand why they say that Rousseau, who to me is so foreign to liberalism, why he's an enlightenment figure, why he, even though he is, he does reject that you can know reality.
He says that we should use emotion and stuff like that, and I don't get why the post-liberals are like, no, he's a liberal.
I'm like, I don't get it.
tim pool
Carl is now, he's post-liberal, correct?
connor tomlinson
Yes.
phil labonte
Something like that.
connor tomlinson
Yeah, Carl is a post-modern traditionalist.
I'm nudging him to be Christian, because he will be eventually.
tim pool
I just love it.
Carl, I remember, he was like the classical liberalist.
Yeah, he was.
connor tomlinson
Yeah, and then he did a sufficient amount of reading and came to conclusions as me.
unidentified
You read a book?
connor tomlinson
God!
phil labonte
Stop it!
Stop it!
unidentified
To a book, call me.
tim pool
Phil, have you even read a book?
phil labonte
Yeah, so... I'm enjoying the hell out of this though, so anyways, but... I'll talk my face off with this guy, so...
tim pool
But I think there's a lot of merit to the argument.
I was listening to... I follow Carl now.
He's back on Axe.
Yes.
Elon has restored his voice and I think he makes a lot of great points.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think we should probably... We need to have like a Culture War episode getting into this in great detail.
connor tomlinson
I'd love that.
I'd absolutely love that.
phil labonte
Fly you and Carl over.
Come hang out.
That would be so great.
We'll all go shooting afterwards too.
connor tomlinson
Likewise, when you're back in the UK, my friend, open invites to anyone on the show.
phil labonte
There will be UK coming next year, I believe.
connor tomlinson
Fantastic.
phil labonte
Let's set it up.
tim pool
Are you and Carl able to come down at some point soon, or what's your schedule?
We'll figure it out.
unidentified
Yeah, we'll figure it out.
tim pool
All right, we'll go to Super Chats for now.
So if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share this show with your friends.
I just want to mention the NYPD is using a ladder on a truck to go in through the window of the building.
I guess they're going to the second floor or whatever.
Smash the like button if you haven't already.
Head over to TimCast.com because the call-in show I imagine is going to be really fun considering we have this liberal, post-liberal debate already forming.
We'll probably get some questions based on that and it'll be really fantastic because these are interesting ideas and questions that should be asked.
Yesterday someone asked us about whether universal rights have exceptions.
Because we think that these protesters, we won't defend their free speech because they don't protect free speech.
My response, of course, was your rights can be curtailed through due process.
If you violate the boundaries of tenets of our society, then we decide by law that your rights will not be curtailed.
You could even lose the right to life if you commit a crime so egregious that the state says death, or the jury says death penalty.
But, uh, that'll be at TimCast.com, so become a member to support the show if you wanna hang out and listen to that at 10pm.
For now, we will read you our Super Chats.
TokenBlackGuy says, Howdy people!
What's up, Clint?
Oh, Clint, Clint, Clint normally is the first super chat, but he's not been here.
phil labonte
I love that people are actually like saying hello to Clint, like trying to beat him.
tim pool
Yeah.
Kale says, any guesses on who Trump's VP will be?
Tulsi is rocketing up the betting odds.
Who else would also work?
connor tomlinson
Okay, I don't have any insider information on this, because if I said that I would get in trouble, but keep eyes on Marco Rubio.
tim pool
Really?
connor tomlinson
Marco Rubio has recently been changing his media tactics to be much more presentable.
There is rumor behind the scenes that suburban mums will find him in the same Trudeau mold as clean-cut and respectable and handsome.
He can also win over some more Hispanic voters, and in that particular district of Florida, it's kind of a political dynasty area, and they're annoyed with Trump.
tim pool
And there's also that Rubio probably has some alliances with intelligence individuals, and it might calm down the deep state.
connor tomlinson
And also, if you're trying to set up a continuity candidate that's going to be acceptable to many branches of the Republican Party, he's one of them.
tim pool
A smart fellow over here.
That's interesting.
We'll see.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
says, Tim, that Timcast logo is looking sharp for NASCAR.
unidentified
I love it.
tim pool
Postmanial actually wrote it up.
Cody Dennison.
We talked to him, and it was really great.
I'll tell you the story.
He was on, I think he was on Pop Culture Crisis, because he's got his own, he's at CamelCast on Twitter, his own YouTube channel.
And Brett Dasovic was saying like, hey, he's looking for sponsors, maybe you'd want to sponsor it.
And he walked over and was like, oh yeah, I'm looking for sponsors.
And I was like, done!
And I shook his hand.
That was it.
It was like 10 seconds.
I was like, bro, are you kidding?
I'd love to sponsor a car.
That'd be so cool.
We're so excited.
We're definitely gonna go check out the races.
The challenges are mostly on Fridays.
But we're really excited.
And I think it fits perfectly, especially with like, the audience of NASCAR and the overlap that we have.
They're the people who came up with with FJB.
Yeah, we and I'm jealous.
I mean, the people who are watching this race made one of the most iconic chance ever.
So it is it is an honor and a privilege to support Cody and put the Tim Cass logo on the car.
We're really excited for that.
Let's go.
hannah claire brimelow
Supporting people who support you.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, that's great.
I mean, the car looks so cool.
Shout out to Jessica, who does the graphic design, who designed it.
And it looks really cool.
hannah claire brimelow
I feel like Jessica must have the most wild career because every other week she's got like a new project.
She's always been an artist, but now it's like, okay, billboards, also car, also this next thing.
tim pool
Billboards in Times Square.
unidentified
How about that one?
tim pool
Let's go!
David Doerr says, it's always a good show when the failed musician and the dowry queen are present.
Who's the dowry queen?
hannah claire brimelow
It's me, I think.
unidentified
Oh.
hannah claire brimelow
You know, because if you're interested in me, you have to go through my dad and present your dowry or whatever.
tim pool
Ah, okay.
Is that real?
I mean, is that a thing?
hannah claire brimelow
Sure, why not?
You think I want to deal with dating?
tim pool
No.
What do we have?
It's shocking how the polls are swinging for Trump and a lot of interesting points being made as per these polls.
Yes, the polls can be wrong.
Thanks for all you do, really do appreciate it.
Manifestory says, first time donator, yet long time fan.
Love y'all's progress and work to keep it up.
Furthermore, Gen Z for Trump.
It's shocking how the polls are swinging for Trump.
And a lot of interesting points being made as per these polls.
Yes, the polls can be wrong.
The polls typically skew Democrat and no poll in the 2020 cycle was this,
Trump was doing this well.
So it's going to be interesting.
I'll put it that way.
hannah claire brimelow
I was listening to this interview with, it was from the New York Times, one of their podcasts.
And again, they were, they were talking to Gen Z about how they're voting.
And one of my favorite parts that they would, they went to the heads of two different sort of get out the vote organizations, specifically trying to get young voters to register as Democrat.
And they were like, you know, you get these heads and they'd be like, Well, you know, Biden is really going to win, and especially if he talks about abortion and if he talks about the environment.
And then the person would have to be like, from the New York Times, they'd be like, but the polls show that they don't like him and he hasn't done enough on these issues.
And they'd be like, well, but, you know, people change their mind by November.
When they see really that it comes down to him and Trump, they're going to get stressed.
They're going to vote for him.
Like this is their plan to get voters through panic.
connor tomlinson
There are so many polls, like Gallup, American Attitude Survey, there's been multiple pieces run by the Financial Times and The Economist, and they are showing the massive values gap between young men and young women.
Young women trending more liberal due to scaremongering, TikTok.
Birth control is not a small aspect of that, sadly.
And young men, because you stop them in a woke classroom and you expect them to go, nah, thanks, this is boring as hell.
tim pool
Someone mentioned the bear scenario.
Have you seen this TikTok thing?
connor tomlinson
I heard this on your show yesterday, yeah.
tim pool
Right, and so the general idea is, the question is, if you were to be left alone in the woods, would you rather be with a bear or a man?
And apparently women say bear or something, and men are like, are you nuts?
Well, I have a story I've told that someone I worked with, this woman, When I was at Fusion, we were hanging out, talking about
work stuff, and she says, Be honest, Tim. How many of your guy friends, like, talk
about raping women?
And I was like, what?
She's like, how many of your guy friends are, like, cool with rape?
And I was like, none of them?
And she was like, for real?
No, come on.
Like, you guys talk about raping women.
And I was like, are you kidding me, dude?
If we were hanging out with a bunch of our guy friends and some guy started joking and laughing, saying he intentionally wanted to rape someone, we'd probably never call him to hang out again and be like, maybe you should go, like this really weird thing.
Now, if there's a joke where it's like someone's doing off-color humor, but, and she's like, no, I mean like, like guys, they like raping women.
And I'm like, dude, no.
This is modern woke feminism.
She genuinely believed that dudes are, like, hanging out bragging about raping women, and I'm like, that's maybe, like, weirdo rapists, which are a microscopic portion of the population.
Guys' fantasies are them with huge muscles saving the woman from the rapist.
connor tomlinson
It's George and the Dragon, basically.
tim pool
Yes.
They want to be the knight in shining armor, not the demon.
connor tomlinson
Well I had this when I went on Piers Morgan and the clip did quite well because Ava, some absolute no-name journalist who unfortunately took down Lawrence Fox's career, went on and said that I'm comfortable with men being afraid to force me to accusations because it keeps them in line.
And I said, OK, you're wondering why lots of young men aren't dating.
Now, I think dating apps have a larger share of that, but lots of young men are risk averse.
And I said, well, I know lots of my friends who are Smart and competent and upstanding young gentlemen who have divested from the one-night-stand lifestyle and sometimes pulled away from relationships because they don't want to face a false accusation because they've had friends that have been falsely accused.
And she said, well, I wouldn't be friends with men like that.
And I was like, did you just imply that I'm friends with potential rapists on live television?
tim pool
Did you really just do that?
hannah claire brimelow
Well, she thinks she's better than you are.
tim pool
I mean... Well, I mean, it sounds like the implication is she wouldn't want to be friends with men who don't want to rape women and don't want to be accused of raping women.
connor tomlinson
Well, that would be the insane standard.
But that's a standard set by women who have never had a single healthy relationship with a man in their life.
And unfortunately, those women, during the 20th century, took up a disproportionate amount of time... And TikTok ain't helping.
phil labonte
Feminists think all men are the president or their dad.
connor tomlinson
Simone de Beauvoir in The Second Sex literally said, all heterosexual sex is a kind of rape.
unidentified
That is a direct quote.
hannah claire brimelow
I think feminism has really warped a lot of women's minds, and I think there is a certain amount of fear that comes with this.
What I find really interesting, and I wish I could cite this source, but there was a study done, and the highest rates of physical domestic violence are among same-sex female couples.
connor tomlinson
Yeah, it's about 70%.
It was 70% of lesbians have faced domestic battery by one of their partners.
hannah claire brimelow
And so I would argue in that case that actually women have no ability to judge danger, considering they think that would be a safe relationship.
tim pool
We'll read some more Super Chats.
hannah claire brimelow
They are a bigger danger to one another.
tim pool
Alright, so we have Yaroslav Zaruba says, you guys can avoid mentioning those 35,000 dead civilians together.
I mean, it's not like those are actual people, right?
Wow, that is shocking that you would actually say that about these poor civilians who were killed.
That's a weird thing to claim that they're not people.
Certainly the victims of war and conflict are people.
Heavens.
Why would someone say such a thing?
unidentified
But also, like... What?
tim pool
I'm being sarcastic.
connor tomlinson
Yeah, I know, I know, I know.
Like, my autism isn't that bad, Tim.
phil labonte
Blimey.
connor tomlinson
But also, okay.
Yeah, war, bad.
Thanks.
I'm gonna pat myself on the back.
Like, that makes zero difference to Israel, who, again, are looking at this as an ethno-religious conflict that has played out over the course of thousands of years.
Me sitting on Timcast, despite it being a great show, saying civilians shouldn't die, doesn't mean they're not gonna drop more bombs.
tim pool
Right, and on top of that, it was... Oh my god, I'm forgetting his name.
He was on Joe Rogan.
You know what I'm talking about?
hannah claire brimelow
So many people are on Joe Rogan.
tim pool
No, that's not a good descriptor.
I can't remember his name.
He was saying, basically, that Hamas has done something interesting in warfare that we typically don't see, and that's merging civilian population with military combatants.
Yeah, so Hamas is intermixed with civilian buildings and civilian population.
So when those numbers get reported, they're being reported basically by Gaza and Hamas.
And they're basically saying, like, so if Israel targets Hamas, they will just say those are civilians.
connor tomlinson
Including when they bomb their own hospital accidentally, try and blame it on Israel, and then it turns out to the embarrassment news agencies that it was a misfire.
tim pool
Yeah, that was crazy.
But more importantly, how many civilians, Yaroslav, have died in Burma?
How many civilians have died in Yemen?
connor tomlinson
What about the open-air slave markets in Libya?
tim pool
Right, and this is what irks me when they're like, why aren't you talking about all the dead civilians?
Should we talk about the 200,000 dead Yemeni and all the children?
And the United States working with Saudi Arabia selling weapons?
And Barack Obama's bombing of a civilian restaurant in Yemen, killing an American citizen?
Dude, it's ridiculous that we're gonna sit here and be like, this one thing, this one time.
Dude, there's war all over the place.
And the people who are hyper-obsessed with one conflict, I feel like, I just don't trust it, right?
We sit here all day and we'll say things like, the whole opening of this show was us complaining about US involvement in the region, sending in our troops into Gaza, invading Gaza, and they're like, not good enough.
And I'm like, y'all are obsessed.
I complain about Afghanistan, I complain about Iraq, I complain about NATO expansionism, I complain about Ukraine, I complain about now what they're doing in Gaza, but these people are just obsessed with Israel as a function.
Dude, that's why they say, and they do, they say this is a Zion, like, a lot of these people, I guess you'd call them the anti-Israel right, call us Zionists, because my attitude is, Israel's a country, it's a country at war, whatever, I don't want to be involved, and they're like, so you think it's a country?
That's it, that's it, you're Zionists, okay, anyway, let's grab some more Super Chats.
Let's go!
Kieran, the meat man says, no no Tim, the coastal pier is a staging ground for thousands of pizza ovens manned by the Italian special forces since the Gazans complained that American MREs were a war crime to eat.
Lieutenant Dust then said, I was an infantryman, those MREs are a war crime.
Yes, but we have a bunch of them because everyone loves to try one.
That's just, that's it.
Everyone loves to, you know what an MRE is?
connor tomlinson
Uh, they're the Russians' packets.
tim pool
Military packets.
Uh, yeah, military rations.
And it's like, you crack it open, it's like Kit Kat in there, or like a Butterfinger.
And then they have this weird, flat, oil bread.
It's like bread, but it's like, got some weird preservative oil in it.
And then, dude.
phil labonte
It's not terrible, but it's not great either.
tim pool
What is it, like the chili, I think?
unidentified
It's just, it's just- I've been carnivore for years, this does sound like a war crime.
The cheese is awful, but- That's all American food though.
connor tomlinson
American food is mostly not food.
Like your cheese is plastic, everything's got canola oil on it.
tim pool
Excuse me, it's American pasteurized processed cheese product.
connor tomlinson
Right, okay, I'm pretty sure I've had like more flavorful insoles before.
tim pool
No, no, to be fair, to be fair, You're talking about what poor people eat.
You go to the grocery store and you buy cheese and it's caked in cellulose.
It's an anti-caking agent, so it's basically covered in cardboard.
Effectively plant bits.
And a lot of the cheese is real low quality, but most grocery stores here, if we go to the local store, what do we go out to?
We have Weiss and we have Food Lion.
They have good cheeses.
unidentified
The Martins.
tim pool
Yeah, and they're in a specialty section.
So you'll go to, like, a little, like, it's like a little island refrigerator, and there will be the sheep's cheese and the goat cheese.
connor tomlinson
But that's just not the problem in the UK.
It's the same thing as, so I visited Austin.
I have been, I was sold a lie, right, by everyone, including my good friend Chris Williamson, who now lives out there, saying, Austin is undergoing a cultural revival.
And I walked around, and there were raving homeless people, and people reacted to it like Sound of Birds song.
Like, why do you put food that poisons you?
Crackheads that will just come up and scream at you.
America's such an odd place.
tim pool
Yeah, everyone kept saying, move to Austin, move to Austin.
I went to Austin, I was not impressed.
I was just like, really?
Why is everybody moving here?
It's expensive.
There is cool stuff.
Look.
We're in the middle of nowhere out here, as you can attest, coming here and like it's a big building literally surrounded by trees.
And there are a couple cities nearby, Frederick, Maryland, not too far, Charlestown, Martinburg, Winchester, these are all within, you know, like you could drive an hour and be in DC.
So the city is there, but you don't have to live where the homeless guy comes up to you and screams in your face and spits all over you.
You can live further out and drive into the city when you want to go for your nice steak dinner.
hannah claire brimelow
It makes me think that people, the people who are moving there, I think a lot, in large part, were from California, where things are really, really bad.
So they got to Austin and thought, Utopia!
But the rest of Texas is like, really, Austin?
And Texas itself is great.
Speaking of having a strong culture.
tim pool
Let's read some more.
Superchats, we got Jacob Hawley who says, Tim and crew, please pray for Sulphur and Holdenville, Oklahoma.
They got hit by an EF4, is that it?
You're off.
Five dead so far.
The whole town is gone and the city hall got reduced to just a slab.
We're helping on the ground with Ryan Hall.
Y'all people, four-month-old, didn't make it.
Wow, sad to hear.
It would be cool if we could get You know, some kind of like video showing the recovery efforts and like a fundraiser or something to help out the people.
But, you know.
That one gamer says, My dad bought the house I grew up in at 23 in 1988.
Here I am at 21, and that's no longer a realistic goal to someone like myself.
Gen Z has bigger problems to worry about than another foreign war.
Agreed!
One of the things that makes me so angry is, you know, we often do mock the entitled younger generations, millennials and Gen Z, but there is a certain entitlement that they do deserve to be angry about, and that is the younger generation inherits all of the work that we do.
We get old, we die, and we literally give away the stuff that we built and we made.
And I was thinking about that.
You know, I'm 38.
Here we are in this massive building, and I thought, one day, somebody's gonna inherit this.
My child will probably get this building.
I don't know if I like that idea, to be completely honest.
But there will be wealth transfer, knowledge transfer, and the younger generation is supposed to inherit these things.
The Brooklyn Bridge, the younger generation inherits this.
It's just there.
But it was a tremendous undertaking.
And at the time, I think Brooklyn Bridge was first, right?
There's like ferrying from Manhattan to Brooklyn.
And it was actually like, you're going to Brooklyn today?
Wow, because you got to pay and take the ferry.
Then they built a bridge and you could just walk across.
Now it was just like if you feel like going for a walk, you go to Brooklyn.
It became easy.
And young people don't have to do any work.
One day, and people not even from New York, one day you show up and it's there.
Now what's happening is the entitlement of the younger generation, which is the country that we and those who came before us has built, is being given away to non-citizens who are being given luxury hotel rooms, they're being given paid debit cards, they're being told to come in, don't worry about it, while young people can't buy houses.
Before we give luxury hotel rooms to a non-citizen, that one gamer should be offered the opportunity to have, as long as he sees fit, a luxury hotel room paid for.
If, before we give it to a non-citizen, that being said, I don't think we should do that, then you're just trying to entice communism.
The reality should be, you should be able to work a job on a single income, afford a house and food, have a family, and we shouldn't be giving away and creating these crises.
But the problem is, when they mass print money for wars, for foreign endeavors,
for our Pakistani gender studies programs, that was like 12 million, and when they open the
door to non-citizens, flooding the labor market, it makes it impossible. Also, there's more, I think,
connor tomlinson
more intergenerational resentment is coming than class resentment, because the boomers
essentially voted themselves entitlement programs that they couldn't pay the bill on, because they
gave it to their smaller cohort parents after the war, and then thought, right, the pension
bill's going to come due when we have this, so then we need to import infinity Africans to
work for low wages to ensure the GDP goes up, and we need to push all the debt onto people
that haven't even been born yet.
And so, if you birth children into multiple trillion dollars worth of debt, don't be surprised that they're gonna be annoyed at you when the bill comes due.
tim pool
Alright, we'll grab some more Super Chats.
What do we have here?
Thinker4Life says, we are here because we bitch on the internet instead of the street.
Social media swallows voices and people feel like they said something.
And so the true inner fight never gets pent up as it once did.
I call that the pressure release valve.
That is, TimCast IRL.
I think the reason YouTube tolerates us to the extent they do is that the way I see it is this.
YouTube creates a pressure system where If you are pro-narrative, pro-establishment, they will promote you in the algorithm 52%.
If you are anti-establishment, 48%.
Over a long enough period of time, the math is quite simple, the anti-establishment message dies because it can't support itself, and the opportunity exists elsewhere.
But the reason they allow it to exist, like shows like this, without just banning us instantly, is because the people who feel the way we feel and see the things we see, and are concerned about it, need to feel like they have an outlet and a voice.
And if they were to ban this show and other shows like it, people might get pent up, angry, and burst.
So they need that pressure release valve that will slowly burn out.
However, that being said, I do think we're winning.
When you take a look at... I'll put it this way.
The professional skateboarders who have reached out...
Cancel culture kept these people.
These are Olympic athletes, okay?
This is the Olympics, skateboarding.
And so you have athletes who are wrapped up, terrified of cancel culture.
I'm gonna get fired.
I'm gonna lose my sponsors.
Well, I got bad news for the woke.
There's no more money left.
They've already lost their jobs and their sponsors.
Skateboarding as an industry is collapsing.
And so now these pros are like, Oh, I don't even care.
I'm not making money anymore.
And then we're like, oh, we're investing heavily.
We're going to do contests.
We just did a contest where we gave away, I think, something like $30,000 or something like that to a bunch of skaters, including a bunch who are sponsored.
Now all the pros are taking notice, being like, here's an infusion of investment and capital into the industry to produce culture, content, and product.
We need that desperately.
And now the response I'm getting is, oh, screw those woke people.
If we don't do this, we're broke and we want to support the industry and make product and make culture.
There's no more fear.
They've lost it.
So we're on path for a tremendous cultural victory.
So I'll just say that.
All right.
There was one super chat I really wanted to get to, if I can find it.
So I'm going to scroll down and see if I can find it.
connor tomlinson
because uh it was a comment to the the israeli jewish ethnostate versus europe but i don't remember exactly where it is so on that point as well like when people say ethnostate they don't necessarily mean that they have ethnically cleansed an entire other ethnic group like you you can have neighborly consideration to other people like I would very much like for England to go further back than even when Henry VIII set up his personal divorce court and become Catholic again.
That doesn't mean I want to kick Douglas Murray out of the country for being gay.
I can accommodate friends.
tim pool
So here it is.
This will be our last one.
It's a good one.
Neglectful Sausage says, If saying Jews don't get a country is anti-Semitic, then what is it to say whites don't get a country?
How come we can't have ours when they can have one?
I think this is a problem that a lot of people have.
They conflate, some people, I don't get it, they blame Israel and Jewish people for why white people can't advocate for having like France, France can't be French and Italy can't be Italian, and I think there's a disconnect there based on probably conspiracy theories, but also the fact that groups like the ADL, for instance, are led by, it's like the Anti-Defamation League is very much anti, opposes anti-Semitism, It's simple, and I'll just say it.
I'm not going to argue literally anyone else's anything.
If France wants to protect French culture and French people, I say good for them.
Indigenous rights.
If Germany for Germany, for Britain for Britain, I literally don't care.
The United States is a little bit different.
Sure, it was basically conquered and expanded upon by European colonists, but we have had continually different kinds of immigration.
In the 1900s, we got Italian, we got Irish, But the thing that matters most was the people who came here said, we want to be American.
And the problem I see now is people don't want to be American.
They want to represent the flags of their nation, but in our country.
And it destroys and dissolves what made this country great.
As for France, I'm not French.
I don't care.
If people in France are like, France for the French, I'm like, good for you.
You do whatever you want to do.
Good luck, France.
connor tomlinson
To steelman the position that it's not the fault of Israel or Jewish people that you can't have national self-determination if you're a white country, Ever since the Second World War, there was a conflation with Nazi Germany and the countries which fought and opposed Nazi Germany, because they believed that if white Europeans defended themselves as an explicit people, rather than just having the modus operandi of their nations proving that they're anti-racist, they would lead ineluctably to the Third Reich.
This is what Camus calls the second career of Adolf Hitler.
And it's spectral.
And it's insane.
The problem now that people are realising, this is why the Israeli issue has reached such salience, is acting off of this premise, thinking people are blank slates, thinking that the West can just do infinite handouts and that culture, identity, historical baggage don't matter, they've mass-imported Muslims who are anti-Semitic and now that second career, the spectral career, is turning into a very real third career.
So this is why, as I made the case earlier, Israelis and Jewish people concerned about the integrity and the continuation of Israel should also respect the indigenous rights of the nations that they are hoping would be their hosts or their allies.
tim pool
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connor tomlinson
Yeah, thank you very much.
Please go to lotuseasers.com to watch my show at 3 o'clock UK time, Wednesday afternoon.
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phil labonte
I am PhilThatRemains on Twix.
I'm PhilThatRemainsOfficial on Instagram.
You can check out the... Actually, we need you to go to my Twitter account, and my pinned tweet is the pre-save link to our new single.
It comes out on Friday.
It's divine.
tim pool
In the description below.
phil labonte
In the description below tonight, too.
Yes, you can click the link to pre-save the new single from All That Remains.
It's the first new music that we've released in six years, so we'd really appreciate it if you'd check it out.
You can check us out on the Destroy All Enemies Tour this summer, starting August 2nd and going through September 28th.
You can check out the band All That Remains on Instagram, on Spotify, on Apple Music, Pandora.
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Go on, get it.
hannah claire brimelow
I'm Hannah Clare Brimlow.
I'm a writer for scnr.com.
You should definitely check out Scanner News.
You should check out our work.
Follow at TimCastNews on Twitter and Instagram.
A lot's out there getting a lot of on-the-ground footage right now, so if you want to see what's happening in New York, that's where I would direct you.
It's so great to have Connor back.
I'm glad you could join us for an actual TimCast as opposed to ShimCast.
If you want to follow me personally, I'm on Instagram at hannahclare.b.
I'm on Twitter at hcbrimlow.
Thank you guys so much.
Bye, Serge!
unidentified
See you later, Hannah-Claire.
Peace out, guys.
Thank you for coming, Connor.
tim pool
Cheers.
We'll see you all over at TimCast.com in just about a minute for The Uncensored Show.
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