April 11, 2024 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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| The Civil War movie has finally been released and we just got back from the movie theater. | ||
| I don't know, we got back like an hour ago. | ||
| And we watched it, and there are going to be spoilers in this show. | ||
| I won't spoil anything outright, but let me just say... I guess this might be considered technically a spoiler, it's not a plot point, but... | ||
| The film is very obviously anti-Trump, leftist, liberal perspective, and it's unsurprising. | ||
| We'll go into greater detail with that. | ||
| I actually enjoyed the film, but it's because I actually have done conflict reporting, and what I'm finding is while I enjoyed elements of the movie because it is a movie about conflict reporting, Yeah, everybody else hated it. | ||
| Rotten Tomatoes really liked it, and so when the corporate press is saying, you know what, this is a great movie, you can probably guess what that means. | ||
| I think there was a desperate attempt to try and de-liberalize the film at the last minute. | ||
| And we'll go over all of that. | ||
| We'll start with light on the spoilers, only using public stuff, and then move into more spoilers. | ||
| I know some people still want to see it, but there's a lot of people online saying that they're going to spoil everything instantly because it was so bad. | ||
| No one should go see it. | ||
| So we'll talk about the film and the stuff behind it. | ||
| And then there's, I mean, I gotta be honest, it's a relatively slow news day, but there is some news. | ||
| Donald Trump calls for defunding NPR over their wokeness. | ||
| Elon Musk has received an inquiry from Congress over his refusal to ban politicians in Brazil. | ||
| So things are getting crazy. | ||
| And then, of course, we didn't get into this the other day, but I really want to, especially considering the Civil War film. | ||
| Costco is selling $200 million worth of gold every month. | ||
| Now, why are people buying gold? | ||
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| Joining us tonight to talk about this and a whole lot more is Simona Mangiante. | ||
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Hi Tim, thanks for inviting me and compliments for your accent. | |
| One of the few that really pronounce it the right way. | ||
| Alright! | ||
| It probably wasn't perfect but I'll take it. | ||
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Who are you? | |
| What do you do? | ||
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Well, I'm Italian. | |
| I want to say that because the media portrayed me widely as a Russian spy. | ||
| So I'm an Italian citizen. | ||
| I came to the United States six years ago. | ||
| I married George Papadopoulos who was involved with the Trump campaign and that's why I moved to the United States but before that I was a legal advisor to the European Parliament and specialized in international law and child abduction. | ||
| Then I always cultivated my passion for arts and this switch to acting as well. | ||
| And now I'm an investigative journalist in political documentaries. | ||
| After experiencing on my own skin the fake news, right? | ||
| I became the fake news so I said let's merge this interest on a side from investigative journalism with cinema and let's make it a product that is enjoyable from a cinematic point of view. | ||
| Alright, thanks for hanging out, it should be fun. | ||
| We got Chris Carr hanging out. | ||
| Chris Carr, the executive editor at SCNR, that's ScannerNews.com. | ||
| What's going on Ian? | ||
| Hey man, good to see you, dude. | ||
| Likewise, yeah. | ||
| I'm Ian Crossland, I'm a musician and an actor, happy to be here. | ||
| I saw the movie also today, so I'm looking forward to talking about it a little bit as well. | ||
| We also have Serge over here. | ||
| Yes, it was, uh, it was an interesting movie. | ||
| I mean, I gave it 6.79, you gave it 4 point something. | ||
| I gave it a 4. | ||
| You gave it a 6.79? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's like mid. | ||
| That was okay. | ||
| 6.79? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's like mid. | ||
| No, those are okay. | ||
| I, I, I, I, I, we'll get into it. | ||
| Also, Fallout, uh, the show just came out, and I am so miserably disappointed. | ||
| Talk about that, Julia. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| I'm just gonna say it real quick. | ||
| As a huge fan of the Fallout IP in the series, I knew it's been getting worse and worse. | ||
| The easiest way to explain my disdain for the show is that I'm like, I turn on Amazon and there it's Fallout, boom, the new show just dropped, and I tell my girlfriend like, LET'S WATCH IT! | ||
| This is gonna be awesome, and then I'm pausing every five seconds, but okay | ||
| I have to explain this because she was like what's that? | ||
| Why is this happening? What does that mean? What is this? | ||
| Why is that and I'm like wow it's not a show. It's just them being like remember fallout | ||
| Remember the vaults and my girlfriend's like I have no idea what the store. What what's happening in this show anyway? | ||
| We'll get into it But let's jump into the big news. | ||
| Civil War. | ||
| The film is out. | ||
| Yes, my friends, there's literally nothing else happening in the world except for potentially World War III as a threat of attack from Iran is imminent, says the White House. | ||
| But, you know, we're more interested in movies. | ||
| So we're going to talk about this instead. | ||
| Here's a story from the New York Times. | ||
| Civil War review. | ||
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We have met the enemy and it is us again. | |
| Rotten Tomatoes gives the film 83% and, uh, you can only guess what that means. | ||
| Basically, everybody knows tomato meter is inverted. | ||
| If tomato meter is- if the tomato meter is good, it means the movie sucks. | ||
| And if the aud- usually it's like the audience score will be high and the tomato meter will be bad. | ||
| I have a feeling when the audience score drops for this film, it will be bad. | ||
| But for those unfamiliar, this movie is about a team of journalists that are traveling on a road trip to make it to DC during the Second American Civil War. | ||
| And there's going to be spoilers in this segment, but we'll start a little bit light and show you, uh, before we get into it, but rest assured within like five minutes, we're going full hardcore spoiler because of the political ramifications and the cultural significance of how a movie, and I'm going to outright say an anti-Trump film masquerading as not anti-Trump. | ||
| How does a movie like this get made? | ||
| What are the perspectives of people in industry and why Why is this their worldview? | ||
| I think that matters a whole lot, so... We're gonna spoil the film. | ||
| And, uh, if you wanna see it, you know, that's- that- you've been warned. | ||
| You may remember this! | ||
| This is a map that was published on X. I don't know if it's the official map, but I believe it is. | ||
| And this came out around December and we talked about it. | ||
| It's the A24 Civil War 2024 Divided America map. | ||
| You can see here the Northwest and parts of the Midwest are called the Western Forces. | ||
| You have this strip to the center of the country called the Loyal Estates. | ||
| You have the Deep South called the Florida Alliance. | ||
| And then you have the Republic of California and the Second Republic of Texas. | ||
| You can then see that Alaska and Hawaii are considered Loyalist. | ||
| However, A24 released an updated version of the map, where you can see the Western forces became California and Texas. | ||
| The New People's Army is the Pacific Northwest and parts of the Midwest. | ||
| The Loyalist states remain the same. | ||
| Florida Alliance remains the same. | ||
| But then you can see Alaska is Polar Bear Cold State. | ||
| And that is only somewhat slightly relevant to the film, but they did seem to change it. | ||
| So the first thing I want to say is, and I'm trying to go slow with the spoilers because I don't want to just outright spoil everything, but anti-Trump film. | ||
| Trump is the bad guy. | ||
| It's very obvious that Trump is the bad guy. | ||
| The movie is not about Donald Trump or a civil war. | ||
| It's about four journalists on a road trip. | ||
| So understand that. | ||
| It's about four journalists on a road trip. | ||
| And these two maps, the reason I showed that first is because it appears The film... I think they were seeing all of the commentary online, and they decided to change the film midway through in editing, to change the story out of fears what they were producing was overtly partisan. | ||
| Because it's... I would say it's partisan when you watch it, if you know anything about politics. | ||
| Heavy political influences, very obvious political influences, and certainly a political perspective. | ||
| They don't outright say it, but it is apparent. | ||
| I think, uh, in the trailers, you can hear them say, the Western forces are approaching D.C. | ||
| Well, back when this map came out, that meant Montana, Wyoming, Idaho, Utah, right? | ||
| And, uh, the Dakotas. | ||
| And then, of course, Minnesota is a mixed bag, and the Pacific Northwest, it's still largely right-leaning. | ||
| Now the film is The Western Forces are California and Texas, which makes very little sense. | ||
| So, uh, I'll pause there and let, you know, Ian and Serge chime in on this one a little bit too. | ||
| But, uh, as a journalist watching a movie about journalists in conflict, what I really appreciate is how they captured the malice and depravity of journalists. | ||
| It was, it was absolute. | ||
| I'm not being, I'm not being cute. | ||
| When the journalists are smiling and laughing at the bloodshed and the gunshots and the gore, and one of the main characters is like, I HAVE SUCH A HEART ON FOR THIS! | ||
| I'm like, this is what they do. | ||
| This is what I witness. | ||
| When I'm on the ground being like, this is horrifying. | ||
| People are being shot at. | ||
| I can't believe these things are happening. | ||
| Some people need to know about this. | ||
| I'm watching these other journalists be like, what a great networking opportunity to meet other journalists. | ||
| Man, were you there when this happened? | ||
| Did this happen? | ||
| And I'm like, these people are sick. | ||
| So I actually really enjoyed it. | ||
| But I'm curious your guys' thoughts if you want to chime in before we go heavy on the spoilers. | ||
| You want to lay into it, Serge? | ||
| I mean, what was something you liked about the film? | ||
| I really like the settings, the scenery. | ||
| So when I look at a film, I look at there's the theme of the film, there's the plot, there's the setting, and then there's like spectacle. | ||
| This thing was spectacular in the sense that it had beautiful settings, beautiful sceneries. | ||
| They're driving from New York to Washington, D.C. | ||
| They go through America. | ||
| You see all this beautiful, beautiful stuff. | ||
| And that's about it. | ||
| Um, I really liked some of the acting, a couple of the scenes I thought were really good. | ||
| And there were a couple of really power. | ||
| Well, there was one, the action scenes were intense, but I found it to be very, very thin on plot. | ||
| I didn't, it was nothing, nothing to be happening in the movie. | ||
| I was just waiting for something to happen. | ||
| I was like, when does this movie start? | ||
| Like 20 minutes in. | ||
| The worst part is when a Democrat governor is rappelling down from a building, upside down, and then kisses Kirsten Dunst. | ||
| Yeah, that was beautiful. | ||
| I'm kidding, I just stole that super chat from Blue Day. | ||
| Deseret Rebel said, does Kirsten Dunst get an upside down kiss from Newsom at some point? | ||
| No! | ||
| She doesn't! | ||
| Yeah, so what we're hearing from a lot of people online is that it was slow and boring. | ||
| And for me, it was actually cathartic. | ||
| Because the basic premise is this grizzled 40-something-year-old journalist who's really jaded meets this young girl, 23-year-old, who wants to be a journalist. | ||
| And then she ends up tagging along. | ||
| And she's like, ugh, why is this woman coming with her? | ||
| They come to- we're getting into spoiler territory. | ||
| They come to a gas station where looters have been strung up but are still alive. | ||
| And the 23-year-old doesn't take any pictures or do anything. | ||
| And then in the car starts breaking down and crying. | ||
| And Kirsten Dunst goes, oh god, she's crying. | ||
| And I was just like, yes! | ||
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Oh, I know that feeling so much, oh my god. | |
| Like, do not- I have complained about it so often, when companies would send me out to urban conflict, and they send you with these people who have literally no idea what's going on, and then they're just fumbling, tripping, causing problems. | ||
| When I was in Venezuela, gunshots ring out, like people are running and screaming. | ||
| I run west from the crowd. | ||
| I yell, run, to my crew. | ||
| They don't follow me. | ||
| And then I take cover behind concrete. | ||
| And they run over. | ||
| What's happening? | ||
| And I was like, what?! | ||
| And they're like, what's going on? | ||
| I'm like, did you see the National Guard with rifles and the people running screaming? | ||
| And I was like, we're going back to the hotel. | ||
| We're done. | ||
| I'm not going out with you guys ever again. | ||
| And they're like, what, why? | ||
| And I'm like, I am not going to stand there as you guys stand in the line of fire and don't move. | ||
| And then I have a human responsibility to save your life. | ||
| If you do not have the experience to be in conflict, I am not going to go out with you. | ||
| I will not condone this. | ||
| You go do whatever you want. | ||
| I'll do my thing. | ||
| But fortunately, they accused me of being a spy, and I had to flee the country by 7 in the morning. | ||
| That was a plot hole for me. | ||
| Like, why would they take that girl in the car in the first place? | ||
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That's like a hard- They did explain it. | |
| I'm about to spoil the entire movie, just so you know. | ||
| Let's start with the hard politics before we get into heavy plot points. | ||
| So, but the reason they bring this young girl, they reveal halfway through the film that the Florida-based, like, Latino guy was drunk and trying to have sex with her. | ||
| Yeah, basically. | ||
| They made the guy the weak, the beta, and they made the girl the alpha, and then... I disagree with that. | ||
| The guy... Kirsten Dunst was like the alpha of the movie? | ||
| No, no, no, no way. | ||
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No. | |
| She breaks down and she's falling on the ground and he's trying to drag her. | ||
| And, when there's, in the distance, I, look, A lot of people are saying the movie was slow and boring and not worth seeing. | ||
| I still think it's worth seeing because I think the movie is going to give some people perspectives on war and conflict that they wouldn't normally have thought about. | ||
| But they're sitting like they're camping out of their van and you can see Tracer Rounds flying through the air and he's like, let's go. | ||
| And she's like, we're not going anywhere near that. | ||
| And then he was like, but come on, you feel it, right? | ||
| And she's like, When the sun comes up. | ||
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And he's like, I have such a f***ing hard-on for these guns! | |
| So, yeah, he was insane and depraved. | ||
| Yeah, they made him kind of look like a brute barbarian idiot alcoholic. | ||
| And then she was the one keeping it all together and the leader. | ||
| But then she breaks down partway through and then the young girl becomes the alpha. | ||
| All right. | ||
| All right. | ||
| We've waited long enough. | ||
| Boogaloo Boys are directly in the film. | ||
| Boogaloo boys actually are depicted relatively well in my opinion. | ||
| Antifa is made reference to but we don't know whether or not Antifa are mass murderers or were massacred. | ||
| We don't know for sure. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| The president is Donald Trump and the heaviest spoiler of them all I just said I wasn't gonna do the heavy spoilers, so I'll save the big, heavy spoilers. | ||
| We'll start with the political stuff. | ||
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So I'll pause right there instead of doing the- Were the Boogaloos- Were the Boogaloo Boys really that well- They were named. | |
| They weren't named. | ||
| They were named, but they also- Oh, those were the Boogaloo Boys. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, but what they did, still, they weren't the best light they could have been. | ||
| No, I thought they did a good job. | ||
| What makes you think they depicted the Boogaloo Boys poorly? | ||
| Well, then if I say anything, then I spoil. | ||
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Right! | |
| Okay, well, they executed those soldiers after they had finished that battle. | ||
| They didn't need to do that, but I guess they just did it anyways. | ||
| Uh, fair point, fair point. | ||
| It wasn't Casim in an overtly good light. | ||
| They were still there. | ||
| They were still doing things. | ||
| They were making it look like it would be bad. | ||
| I don't think... I wouldn't look at them killing captives as, like, malicious evil. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, I understand. | ||
| It's war, and they're taking no prisoners. | ||
| Still, I agree, I agree. | ||
| That was fairly bad. | ||
| They didn't include that, you know what I mean? | ||
| But so, one of the first scenes you encounter... And this is funny, because I'm reading all the reviews, and they're like, it's an apolitical film. | ||
| And I was like, really? | ||
| And then as soon as they come across, so this is like, they're like, oh they're shooting, let's go check it out. | ||
| They're journalists, and the Boogaloo, they don't, they never say Boogaloo Boy. | ||
| Uh, there are guys in Hawaiian shirts with armor and gear. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Shooting at soldiers, military. | ||
| You can tell who they are. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| And I was just like, no way. | ||
| I'm like, this is overtly political. | ||
| They're in Pennsylvania when they come to a location where military, it appears to be military, have pinned down Boogaloo Boys. | ||
| The Boogaloo Boys, I thought, would dwell in that Uh, it, I think it represents, like, their combat. | ||
| They're people who train with guns. | ||
| Yeah, totally. | ||
| And they allow journalists to film. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| They're, they're, they're moderately, like, anarcho-libertarian types. | ||
| And then, uh, the scene is, after the firefight, the, uh, Boogaloo Boys infiltrate the building with the press behind them, and then enter the room, and they hear a guy moaning and screaming as he's bleeding out, and then they capture and execute the remaining soldiers. | ||
| So, the one thing I will say, this movie was made by liberals who think they're neutral. | ||
| There's not a single instance where they encounter any leftists. | ||
| They encounter rednecks. | ||
| They encounter racists. | ||
| The president is Donald Trump. | ||
| The elite tactical force that moves in to take DC is... It's very diverse. | ||
| Yeah, it's very diverse. | ||
| And I don't want to be like a dick, but it's just like, Look, man, there's a lady Navy SEAL being deployed by a powerful military faction to take to the most... I don't believe... | ||
| Currently in the world, there is a high likelihood chance that they will have women deployed as special forces on the most high-priority missions. | ||
| And I'm not trying to be a dick, but you know what I mean? | ||
| She was small and thin. | ||
| She was a little thin girl. | ||
| She wasn't a big, strong, bulking woman. | ||
| And she executes a negotiator, so I was kind of like... For me, I think the cheapest part of the movie, after all was said and done, is that the president is in the White House. | ||
| In the middle of a civil war, he's just sitting at his desk. | ||
| Like, he's not in a bunker. | ||
| The administration's all just chillin' at the White House. | ||
| It's the dumbest writing I've seen in a long time. | ||
| Who wrote that? | ||
| Yeah, because, uh, Bethesda and- and- and, um, Mount Washington- what is it, Mount- no, no, no, Mount Weather? | ||
| Is it right? | ||
| Yeah, it's like, come on, like, even the publicly known emergency bases are still under loyalist control according to this map. | ||
| That was ridiculous. | ||
| Alright, but now I'll give the big spoiler, now that I've given you fair warning. | ||
| Uh, the movie starts with the Donald Trump character, and it's so obviously Donald Trump for a variety of reasons. | ||
| Nick Offerman is in the film for 15 seconds, no joke. | ||
| He's got probably 20 seconds of total face time, and an additional, like, 5 seconds of voice-over time. | ||
| Wild how how little he's in the movie. | ||
| I mean, maybe it's an exaggeration I think the movie starts with maybe like 20 or 30 seconds of him talking and then he gets maybe like 15 seconds at the very end But it starts with him saying we're on the verge of a great military victory Some say the greatest military victory in military history, and I'm like we get it. | ||
| It's Trump The journalists say things like, you're going to DC, are you crazy? | ||
| They treat us like the enemy there, you'll be shot on sight. | ||
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And I'm like, oh my god, we get it. | |
| And then you got these critics being like, it's totally apolitical. | ||
| Of course, when Trump becomes president, he'll launch airstrikes against American citizens, disband the FBI, and then kill journalists. | ||
| Yeah, they say he disbanded the FBI. | ||
| It had three terms. | ||
| There's no drones. | ||
| In the movie, it's really, really poorly written. | ||
| Like they, it's like an idealistic movie from like, because technically the movie is supposed to take place in like 20 years from now. | ||
| If the main character was at some sort of Antifa, that's what she made her fame with an Antifa massacre. | ||
| So Kirsten Dunst's backstory is that when she was in college, she got an, a quote, epic photo of the Antifa massacre. | ||
| So they're not taking any video. | ||
| Nobody in the, in the movie takes video. | ||
| They all just snap still photographs and no, there's no drone warfare at all. | ||
| It's like some helicopters in a jet or two. | ||
| Or they can't charge anything, though, to be fair. | ||
| But they don't have solar powered chargers. | ||
| I've got like four. | ||
| No, she still uses her phone in the movie. | ||
| Yeah, she's got her digital camera. | ||
| And they say there's no service. | ||
| There's no reference. | ||
| There's only one reference to currency. | ||
| And it's only that U.S. | ||
| currency is worth little, but still still worth something. | ||
| There's no like the one thing I can say of this movie is that this guy was like, | ||
| what if there's a civil war? | ||
| I should talk to some journalists who cover war. | ||
| And they went and found some like 60 year old guys who covered war 40 years ago. | ||
| And one of the things we talked about this yesterday, I think they really missed the mark is they did not involve the international community with one iota. | ||
| It was all insulated within this. | ||
| Walled United States, as if there was no outside influence. | ||
| Like, dude, China would be the Western forces. | ||
| Those would have been Chinese forces. | ||
| I somewhat disagree. | ||
| You don't think so, man? | ||
| China? | ||
| They'd be all over the United States. | ||
| So here's where it gets interesting, right? | ||
| In the trailer, they say the Western forces are just outside of DC or whatever. | ||
| And originally, the Western forces was the Pacific Northwest. | ||
| In the new map they released, that's called the New People's Army. | ||
| In the film, they call those Portland Maoists. | ||
| Yeah, they mentioned Maoism. | ||
| They mentioned Maoists. | ||
| So, when they make reference to that faction, though, it appears that they're saying Communists take over the Northwest of the United States. | ||
| And they say Maoists, so it sounds like Chinese influence. | ||
| I don't think it completely excluded... I think in a more realistic scenario, you'd have, like, Chinese jets and, like, European tanks and things protecting the capital. | ||
| Why not drones? | ||
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At that point, 20 years in the future? | |
| 20 years in the future, going the way we are right now, that'd be way bigger. | ||
| Yeah, that's kind of a- 20 years in the future thing's kind of like a misstep on their part, I think. | ||
| Cause like, it seems like it takes place right now. | ||
| It's definitely taking place in the present. | ||
| The movie- but without present technology. | ||
| The movie takes place in at least 2025. | ||
| It's like when they make movies in the modern age. | ||
| I mean 2045, sorry, 2045. | ||
| Have you noticed when they developed cell phones, 2006, they were making all these movies, but none of the characters had cell phones? | ||
| Because they didn't understand, like how, they didn't have the creativity to write that new tech. | ||
| And they couldn't have the suspense of like, how do I get my message to my person? | ||
| Because I got to get to a pay phone. | ||
| And like in the Matrix. | ||
| And it took them like a decade to catch up to how to start writing cell phones. | ||
| And a lot of movies will be like, leave your cell phone before you enter, become a character in our movie. | ||
| Like they have to put their cell phone away before they enter the venue where the action takes place or stuff like that. | ||
| There was one early exception. | ||
| I think The Departed was 2007, and they explicitly made cell phones act like weapons in that movie. | ||
| Square says he said he wanted the... because he recognized the technology and how dangerous it could be, and every character in that movie is like, they're battling with cell phones. | ||
| That was a very early example, but for the most part, yeah, you're right. | ||
| I think they're doing that with drones here. | ||
| I'd like to see a movie that understands drone warfare a little bit better. | ||
| The horror of like an artificial intelligence taking over. | ||
| Like one of these factions could have been an artificial intelligence. | ||
| That would have been cool. | ||
| Yes, but if we're, if, you know, so this guy in 2020 starts writing a film called Civil War and the conversation around a potential civil war in this country started a long time ago. | ||
| I mean, first of all, there was a civil war in this country, but it was like 2017 and 2018 people started talking about because of Donald Trump, the potential for civil war. | ||
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Yeah, and I believe that part of it was to not only predict something that is likely to happen, I think, much less than 30 years from now, but also in the same effort to delegitimize Donald Trump. | |
| I think it was like a sort of immunity system in place. | ||
| What if Donald Trump wins again? | ||
| The election and it was written in before right 2020. | ||
| So I think it's actual now as we're heading to 2024. | ||
| But already at the time, the risk of Donald Trump being confirmed as President of the United States was huge. | ||
| So we have this highly politicized, overtly politicized movie, Which is not like, of course they're making up that it's neutral, no it's not. | ||
| You just mentioned how they give the president as speaking exactly like Donald Trump. | ||
| Journalists ecstatic about giving the most sensational news with like, you know, like vultures basically on the set. | ||
| This is a sad reality. | ||
| And then all these minorities that are in the movie that just represent how they polarized America, playing this identity policy all over Biden presidency, like trying to put one against the other and building up the idea of Trump supporters like the white supremacists, the racists, the people leading America into this polarization that they created, by the way. | ||
| There is nothing of that existing. | ||
| I'm a minority myself. | ||
| I'm an immigrant. | ||
| I never felt emboldened by being put in a case. | ||
| Actually, there is no bigger recognition than being treated as an equal, like actually on the right side we do. | ||
| But here we go, like this extremely polarized world heading to the demon, the demonized Donald Trump. | ||
| I think already in 2016, since 2016, all over his first presidency and up to now. | ||
| So what's more political than that? | ||
| I remember when Trump got elected he said something like right after he got elected about I don't know if he said something racist or sexist and then other people it was like the floodgates were open and then all these people started saying racist and sexist stuff online and people were like white supremacy oh no and I don't know what it was like he did give kind of a green light like I'm gonna speak derogatorily that means you can too because before that people just didn't talk like that At least not on TV. | ||
| That's not true. | ||
| Not in public. | ||
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No. | |
| Not in public. | ||
| You would get ostracized. | ||
| This is an internet thing. | ||
| It has nothing to do with Trump. | ||
| But then I think the media, a lot of people in the media blew it out of proportion and said like, Oh my God, he's going to cause a race war. | ||
| He's going to be a dictator. | ||
| And they lied. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And they made it seem like he was going to cause some, some sort of conflict. | ||
| And he was like, what? | ||
| I think this is the thing about this film is that it's liberals going like, wow, what if Trump really does get reelected? | ||
| He'll have a third term, he'll kill Americans, he'll kill journalists, and the country will fall apart. | ||
| And they call him a dictatorial president. | ||
| It's very obviously Trump. | ||
| And I guess the final spoiler is, and I think it's fairly obvious based on the, it's like, if you watch the trailer, this is not a big spoiler, but they do kill him. | ||
| Yeah, because he's sitting in the White House like an idiot. | ||
| He should have been in a bunker. | ||
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Is that incitement? | |
| Is that incitement to kill the future president? | ||
| If you're a far leftist, if you're Antifa and you watch that film, you're probably cheering the whole time. | ||
| It's the first time. | ||
| And if you love America, you are probably sitting there shocked and in disgust. | ||
| I was nauseated. | ||
| It's the first time I've ever seen a movie where the US president was a bad guy and gets killed on camera. | ||
| I've never seen that. | ||
| If you guys have seen a movie- To celebration and cheering of the main characters who are happy it's happening. | ||
| It's like a predictive programming thing. | ||
| Like, are you saying it's okay? | ||
| Like, what are you insinuating here, guys, with this movie? | ||
| Well, you know that all the Disney villains back in the day were British, right? | ||
| Okay, I didn't know all of them. | ||
| Yeah, and so is the director of this movie, by the way. | ||
| British? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Really? | |
| Yeah, of course he is. | ||
| So what does he really know about American discourse? | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| And well, it's funny because people have asked him about, like, isn't it crazy that you have Texas and California pairing up together? | ||
| And his response is just like, no, they're pairing up against a fascist precedent. | ||
| I mean, putting two states with their differences aside to defeat fascism? | ||
| When you look at the original map, it was obvious it was meant to be, like, conservatives from Idaho, Utah, and Montana, and Wyoming. | ||
| And then they changed it with the new map to Texas and California. | ||
| For some reason, and the best we could have come up with is because they wanted to make it seem nonpartisan that California and Texas could work together against the greater evil. | ||
| But I don't know if that's someone came in from the outside and they're like, you guys, you can't, don't make it the West versus the East. | ||
| Just make it, like, the bad guy versus everybody else. | ||
| Well, I want to stress that too, like, you get that movie, what's it, White House Down or whatever? | ||
| And it's like, all the movies that we have are, the President is the good guy, the President is under attack, the Secret Service have to save him. | ||
| In this movie, it's quite literally an external faction attacking the President and the Secret Service. | ||
| And you are, the characters you're supposed to be cheering for are happy it's happening. | ||
| So it's quite literally like the United States is the bad guy, the President is the bad guy, and the President must be killed and stopped, and when they, like, in the end, they, like, man, I guess we spoiled enough of it already, so I'll just tell you, but right before they kill the President, One of the main characters says, no, I need a quote. | ||
| And then Nick Offerman's like, don't let them kill me. | ||
| And he goes, that'll do. | ||
| And then they kill him. | ||
| And it's just like, so I felt like the bad guys won watching that film. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The movie to me felt like communists attacked the government and won. | ||
| The movie to me is most likely on a probability line of the liberal view is that Trump gets elected. | ||
| There's resistance and revolt and riot and stuff like that. | ||
| Trump gets elected to a third term. | ||
| At some point, to stop riots and rebellions or whatever, orders airstrikes. | ||
| In the beginning of the movie, a person carrying the American flag, suicide bombs, a bunch of people trying to get water from an aid truck. | ||
| It's very subtly like, if Trump wins, this is what he will do. | ||
| He will kill journalists, he will kill you, his supporters will do this. | ||
| The journalists only ever encounter deranged quote-unquote right-winger types, rednecks who are a-holes and beating up looters and killing them, or racists who are murdering minorities. | ||
| And then in the end they're like, the orders are to kill the president on sight. | ||
| That's in the movie they say that. | ||
| A few things that I think it did well is that they captured how some people are just still living their lives as if it's just not going on. | ||
| They're just going about their business in some parts of the country. | ||
| That was pretty cool. | ||
| And it also captured the chaos of the actual conflict when you don't know who's who. | ||
| You get shot at, you're just shooting back at whoever's shooting at you. | ||
| And I think it also What were you saying, Serge? | ||
| It really just highlighted the horror, the absolute devastating horror of a situation like that. | ||
| But I don't even think it took it far enough, because there was no foreign interference. | ||
| We would just have the UN would take over the country if we tried to... The only reason we haven't been invaded is because of our national unity. | ||
| So if we lose that, it's all over. | ||
| Well, I disagree. | ||
| It's because there's a gun behind every blade of grass. | ||
| I mean, it's a metaphor, but... | ||
| Well, what would actually happen is China would go to West Coast states and say, we'll provide any support you want. | ||
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Have fun. | |
| Tanks and things like that. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And they would say, thank you, comrade. | ||
| You're welcome. | ||
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Right. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Anything to survive. | ||
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So inside they're saying that Trump is the dictator and everyone who supports him is a terrorist, is a redneck, is everything bad is happening in America right now. | |
| They're building it up to me. | ||
| So I'm sort of Making feel people who hates Trump and Trump supporter entitled to react in the worst way. | ||
| And this is scary, because it's going on. | ||
| It's like a marketing massive machine to convince people that Trump is the monster. | ||
| And you know, whoever supports him is racist, a bad person, the problem in America. | ||
| And it's quite disturbing. | ||
| No, it's a kind of mix between It was a parody. | ||
| You remember this ideocracy? | ||
| They really believe people are so stupid to buy into all this fake propaganda every time. | ||
| And now civil war. | ||
| That is like their immunity system for what happens if Trump wins again. | ||
| We should rile up all the people we indoctrinated until now to cause some major issue. | ||
| And the fault will be Trump again. | ||
| In the movie, they make it clear the president ordered airstrikes on Americans. | ||
| But I'm thinking about it now, I'm like, I'm pretty sure if Biden did that, depending on who the Americans were, the left would still defend and cheer for it. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I agree with you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| If Biden ordered a drone strike on the criminal aliens invading the southern border, they'd call for his impeachment and removal right away. | ||
| If Joe Biden ordered a drone strike on, like, a Proud Boys rally or something and a riot broke out, they'd be like, yeah, but they were violent insurrectionists. | ||
| We've agreed a few a year ago, but after this, the way he's just malfunctioned, the Israeli conflict, he has no support anywhere. | ||
| If he did that, I think that the entire country, even his own cabinet, would take him out. | ||
| Like, get rid of him. | ||
| Make him step down or remove him from office if he was to do something like that. | ||
| Maybe, but let's jump to the real world. | ||
| So, outside of films, we have this from SCNR. | ||
| Trump calls for NPR defunding after senior editor releases scathing op-ed they are a liberal disinformation machine. | ||
| And so we were just now talking about a Hollywood film about a civil war, but this is another component of It's fairly insane to try and parse through the news when it is all a lie intended to manipulate you into falling in line behind authoritarians. | ||
| And so you had this, let me just read this. | ||
| Senior business editor Yuri Berliner wrote in his op-ed that an open-minded curious culture prevailed throughout the network early in his career. | ||
| Those said NPR's direction in recent years didn't accurately reflect on America. | ||
| Berliner noted the network overwhelmingly employed registered Democrats, noting not a single registered Republican was present at NPR's Washington headquarters. | ||
| The senior editor went on to claim NPR's top network executives had pushed for the outlet to transition their messaging toward a consistently progressive liberal framing. | ||
| There's a story, and we'll get into it in a second, about a guy named Dexter Reed. | ||
| You guys see this one? | ||
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No. | |
| This is a guy who, uh, reportedly opened fire on police, striking a police officer, shooting 11 times, and the police responded, killing him. | ||
| I say reportedly because it's reported in the news. | ||
| There's video of the shots and the cops running and screaming, and then, you know, them yelling shots fired and stuff like that. | ||
| And... | ||
| The way the media frames it is they do not report that the guy opened fire on the police until the bottom of the story. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| So you google this and it's all these news outlets being like, black man shot at 96 times and they show a picture of him wearing his graduation robes. | ||
| And I'm like, why not just show a picture of him wearing a t-shirt? | ||
| Like, why this graduation photo? | ||
| It's all framing. | ||
| So their goal is to effectively create another George Floyd scenario. | ||
| The crazy thing is, This guy who died, you know, I was watching the news the other day, and there was like a shooting in Philadelphia happened, and I was like, and? | ||
| It's like, why is that news? | ||
| Now they're like, police stopped a guy who opened fire on them, and they shot him, and I'm like, how is that news? | ||
| I was night crawling in Chicago a few years ago, and there was like seven murders in an hour. | ||
| And cops were shooting at guys, and I'm just like, how is this news? | ||
| For some reason, these woke leftists in corporate press all got the memo. | ||
| And maybe that's the case. | ||
| So now you have this story with NPR where this guy's basically saying, yeah, Democrats took it over, turned it into a propaganda machine. | ||
| Trump now says, no more funding for NPR, a total scam. | ||
| Here's what I love. | ||
| Is NPR funded by the government? | ||
| Well, they say, no, it's not. | ||
| NPR doesn't get public funding. | ||
| No, what happens is Congress authorizes funding for some secondary organization who then transfers funding to NPR and that's how it operates. | ||
| So, in line with the movie Civil War, where the president thinks journalists are the enemy, you get the left likely very much going to push a similar narrative now with this. | ||
| But this is just a bigger component of what we already knew. | ||
| I mean, this country is... I don't see... | ||
| How based on things like this, this country ever comes back from oblivion. | ||
| Based on what? | ||
| That the media is intentionally lying to everybody. | ||
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There's no going back. | |
| And the fact that Donald Trump says, make it stop, has them depicting him as a fascist who murders people in a film. | ||
| I don't think there's any going back. | ||
| People that want to go back, that ain't the right way anyway. | ||
| I just don't want to turn it into like... | ||
| I don't want it to become like so passively fascist that people just don't exercise their free speech. | ||
| That's what I'm concerned with. | ||
| I want to maintain people's willingness to speak out against the powers that be because that's how innovation occurs and that's why the United States is so great in the first place and why people came here and wanted to take it over is because we said, no, you're going to be allowed to say whatever you want. | ||
| You can't come here and stop people from doing that. | ||
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You know, at the same time, I agree with you, but we should be able also to call out lies from newspapers and journals that keep spreading narratives that are totally baseless. | |
| And we have seen it with Donald Trump on many occasions. | ||
| Just spreading blatant lies. | ||
| I mean, I feel, of course, involved into that because I've seen my character completely assassinated in the news just to get indirectly to Donald Trump, right? | ||
| It was convenient to say at the time that one of his advisors married a Russian spy. | ||
| That was completely so It's crazy that, you know, having the possibility to call out this outlet and even win a defamation lawsuit is now so remotely impossible just because attacking the fake news is like attacking the media. | ||
| So, you know, it's another type of dictatorship on the other side. | ||
| You know, we should respect, agree at certain extent that coup lie, you know, people should be free to talk and even say lie. | ||
| Let's keep our freedom to object this lie, prove them wrong, and having, you know, them correct their lies, which we don't have right now. | ||
| Were you able to sue the... who was it that said you were a Russian spy? | ||
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Well, many outlets. | |
| One was like Medium with this... | ||
| crazy guy that actually came in a label lawsuit recently with another person involved in the Russia hoax. | ||
| And he won, actually, and he was banned by ever publishing anything ever again. | ||
| I'm not making his name not to make him famous here, because it's really like a fringe wannabe journalist. | ||
| But, you know, many other outlets picked up from this, including, you know, the Observer and something, you know, just major outlets. | ||
| And the point is not even like corroborating what they say, it's just like putting the headline in the front to build up a narrative. | ||
| It was never about me, it was just about the Donald Trump campaign that was allegedly colluding with Russians. | ||
| So I understand the feeling of Donald Trump calling out those liars. | ||
| I understand you when you say we should limit our going after these people at a certain extent because we should protect the freedom of speech, right? | ||
| And I agree. | ||
| But I think this is so normalized to lie against a political opponent or political target that we should definitely be able to correct it. | ||
| You know, we should shift back to some sort of accountability when you lie recklessly. | ||
| And Donald Trump has been the target of all that. | ||
| And people like me decide, you know, just try to get to me to get to his advisor, George, my husband at the time, and now look at the here we go again, 2024, you know, the same mantra, Russia, Russia, Russia, a white supremacist and a bunch of other things that are thrown there just to make up a narrative. | ||
| There's like this saying, look for forgiveness rather than for, what is it? | ||
| Permission? | ||
| Permission, yeah. | ||
| Ask for forgiveness later rather than ask for permission first. | ||
| Terrible. | ||
| News organizations have been functioning like that in that they'll just print something that's wrong and then when they do, they'll be like, oh, it was wrong, sorry, we'll take it down. | ||
| That's not it. | ||
| News organizations will intentionally lie, make millions of dollars off the lie, then wait a week, issue a retraction, and make a few thousand off the retraction. | ||
| When they run an article with ads on it, views are views. | ||
| So they can run an article and just say a whole bunch of nonsense, and then if it's sensational and they make money off the ads, good, and then when someone's like, you better retract it, they go, okay, and they put up another article retracting it and make money off that too. | ||
| But I'm with you. | ||
| I mean, slander, libel, those are legitimate things. | ||
| This new media environment where a random nobody can slander you, and then a news organization can pick it up and be like, well, I mean, we saw it there, so it's not like we made it up. | ||
| And then who do you sue in that case? | ||
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Exactly. | |
| Technically, the loudest mouth, I think, is usually the one that gets the lawsuit. | ||
| But then what, do they pin it on their sources and be like, well, we just got it from that small outlet? | ||
| Do you know how that works? | ||
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Well, that's how they do. | |
| That's a vicious machine, you know. | ||
| So I read it there. | ||
| So I picked up this article. | ||
| I don't have to justify why actually they're proposing the same content. | ||
| You should go to the source and then prove. | ||
| And then when you are a public person in a certain way, you have much less protection on your side. | ||
| So legislation should change a little bit. | ||
| but on the micro picture, macro picture, I believe Donald Trump. | ||
| When I read these truths, I thought I relate to, because think about this man. | ||
| It has a judicial machine from the side, and then you have the media machine colluding | ||
| to create the same narrative. | ||
| So he has thousands of indictments. | ||
| Think about Jane Carroll, like based on baseless allegation. | ||
| again and media covering it in a certain way and here we go the narrative is | ||
| built upon like everybody's trying one thing to avoid Donald Trump to win the | ||
| election again and that's that's a fact or delegitimize him once he's in power | ||
| and everybody can see that even liberals you know have you ever seen so many | ||
| forces against one man and why? Not in American politics, not like this. | ||
| I mean and you can even try to attack the corporate press I mean, even if you're Trump, you know, I mean, he just sued George Stephanopoulos for lying about him on air. | ||
| Who knows where that that's gonna go? | ||
| You know, I mean, it's anybody's guess. | ||
| Once it gets into the topsy-turvy legal system, pretty much anything can happen, I think, even if you're Donald Trump and can afford the best lawyers possible. | ||
| I'm not too familiar with NPR. | ||
| It's called National Public Radio, but it's privately funded. | ||
| Yeah, well, part of what happened here, according to this guy's op-ed, is that things changed when a guy named John Lansing took over as CEO in 2019. | ||
| And then when the summer of George Floyd happened, the top-down edict was, we have to get at this systemic racism problem. | ||
| I mean, and then from there, it was just framed that way moving forward, and then everybody else had to fall in line. | ||
| And I imagine that's pretty much what happens in most of these corporate press newsrooms. | ||
| It comes from, you know, some deranged CEO that takes over and has, you know, kind of goofy ideological views on things, and they just mandate it top down. | ||
| Maybe it should, Trump's lawsuit should, he should just sue them and make them take national out of their Out of their title, because they're not- That's a brand name. | ||
| Yeah, like, if I call my company the Federal Armory- Express! | ||
| Yeah, Federal Express, they had to change it to FedEx, because Federal, it wasn't Federal. | ||
| And, like, if I call my thing, like, if I call my company, like, the legitimate American government, or, like, people be like, well, it's not. | ||
| You can't, like, call your private companies. | ||
| There's certain things, like, or if I'm, like, Yeah, that's a good point actually. | ||
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Yeah, that's a good point, actually. | |
| Like, um, the United States Congress. | ||
| Like, if I want to make a company and call it the United States Congress, they'd say, | ||
| no, you can't name it. So calling it the national, it's not national, it's a private... | ||
| I'd love to get their stock. | ||
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That's a very good point. | |
| Who owns the company? It's owned by National Public Radio, Inc. | ||
| And who owns that? And where the stock all comes from? | ||
| Because I read about it a couple years ago, and I don't have the data here, but I remember seeing that only a little bit of money comes from the government, and all the rest was coming from private organizations. | ||
| Where did you hear that they changed their name from Federal Express because they were forced to? | ||
| Oh, I just remember them changing it to FedEx. | ||
| Yeah, they weren't forced to do it. | ||
| You're allowed to say federal. | ||
| They just branded, they created a brand name. | ||
| They called it the Federal Reserve, and it wasn't even a federal organization. | ||
| So it is pretty deceptive to call your company federal if it's not federal and call it national public something if it's a private, you know, company. | ||
| That's kind of crazy. | ||
| I just got to get the stock. | ||
| I didn't know we were going to go too deep into this just now. | ||
| Let's see, privately supported. | ||
| Yeah, National Public Radio is a privately supported not-for-profit organization. | ||
| Yeah, privately supported by who? | ||
| 900, let's see, I'm already including my 900. | ||
| Oh, what were you going to say? | ||
| Yeah, who gives them the money? | ||
| I'm going for it. | ||
| I'm looking. | ||
| Congress funds some, like, program, which then provides the funding to NPR. | ||
| So it says NPR is funded through private donations, member station dues, and grants from organizations such as the Corporation for Public Broadcasting and the National Science Foundation. | ||
| Another question is, how much of their money comes from the Corporation for Public Broadcasting? | ||
| Yeah, that is a good one. | ||
| And then how much does Congress give to the Corporation for Public Broadcasting? | ||
| Dude, conservatives, man, they just sit back and they let Democrats funnel tax dollars into things like universities and the press so that they could be infiltrated by communists. | ||
| And now here we are. | ||
| My parents, I remember talking to them a couple years ago, and they're like, well, NPR is government news. | ||
| I was like, no, it's not. | ||
| That's what you're supposed, that's what they want you to think, I believe. | ||
| That's why they call it that. | ||
| Well, we'll come back to whatever that is. | ||
| Let's talk about this Nicolay Miu story. | ||
| Did you guys hear this one? | ||
| This is the huge implications for self-defense. | ||
| This guy, Nicolay Miu, was, I watched a video. | ||
| He's in a river, he's attacked by a bunch of teens, he defends himself, and now he's found guilty of, uh, they say first-degree homicide of boy 17 during a tubing trip after a gang of teens accused him of being a pedophile. | ||
| So there's a lot to this story, but the general, the gist is, there's a video showing him walking around in about, you know, six inches to a foot of water while they're tubing, stumbles over, falls over, drops a snorkel. | ||
| The kids all start surrounding him, screaming at him, teenagers yelling. | ||
| One dude yells for the culture several times. | ||
| Someone- some woman comes up and shoves him. | ||
| He then grabs a folding knife that he was using for tubing. | ||
| Someone then shoves him to the- to the floor- to the ground. | ||
| He hits the ground. | ||
| Then someone smacks him in the face. | ||
| Then as he's getting up, the boy who died jumps at him, and when he does, Mew pushes back with the knife and with his hand, and the knife goes into his gut. | ||
| And that was basically the killing blow. | ||
| He then has continued to be attacked and slashes a few others. | ||
| They found him guilty of this, and a lot of people are saying it's a travesty of justice when you watch the video, because this guy never said anything to these kids. | ||
| His mouth is shut, he's calm, he's not threatening anybody. | ||
| They surround him, screaming at him, and then attack him several times, and now he's been found guilty. | ||
| Um, so I think Carter, Carter Banks, was he talking about this? | ||
| He said that- About the Apple Valley guy? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or Apple River, sorry. | ||
| Mentioned that he thought that the guy had been lying to the police. | ||
| Is that true? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So one of the things is that people were saying that he folded the knife and threw it on the riverbed or something. | ||
| So, okay. | ||
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Right. | |
| So which was like intent to withhold evidence or something. | ||
| But the thing is, you can drown in a foot of water. | ||
| If he fell and hit his head, he could have died. | ||
| I don't care if he was on grass or otherwise. | ||
| You attack someone and smack him in the face and try to stop him from getting up, it's reasonable for someone to think, I'm surrounded by people, they're trying to kill me. | ||
| And if someone's got a knife on them, they might think, they're going to take my knife and kill me with it if I don't stop them. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| That's another huge component of self-defense. | ||
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Yes, exactly. | |
| They always say that defense should be proportionate to the offense, but when I have a gang, a bunch of people coming at you, where is the line between proportion? | ||
| You know, like you have to use what you have to just save yourself. | ||
| The entire point is to save your life. | ||
| Are you using a proportionate force to do that or means on everything else? | ||
| But here, it's always the same point to me. | ||
| Where is law enforcement? | ||
| Right, there are pending accusations towards these guys. | ||
| Usually when you go through a legal proceeding to know if you're guilty or innocent, you should have law enforcement in place to take care of the situation. | ||
| But when people come and get you because they heard this accusation of pedophilia, then, you know, the balance is like we are Allowing people to get over. | ||
| But yeah, it appears they made that up. | ||
| I mean, I don't see what the guy apparently was looking for a phone that he dropped in the river. | ||
| And and so they they end up starting a fight with him. | ||
| They lost. | ||
| And so then also he's accused of being a pedo. | ||
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So they just made it up, too. | |
| That's crazy. | ||
| Yeah, it seemed like it was just a deranged insult that they hurled at him. | ||
| And I mean, his attorney said that they punched him, they kicked him, they did it repeatedly, they pushed him. | ||
| It's on video. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, like, now he's facing 60 years. | ||
| For first-degree reckless homicide and four other charges of four counts of attempted intentional first-degree homicide. | ||
| So that's because he swung the knife at four other people. | ||
| First-degree intentional homicide. | ||
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Intentional. | |
| That's amazing. | ||
| They're basically saying he walked over there intending to kill people. | ||
| Did he lunge at the guy or the guy lunged at him? | ||
| The guy lunged at him. | ||
| Like, you watch the video. | ||
| The dude jumps at him and then he has his hand with the knife and it's like this and he pushes as the guy's jumping at him. | ||
| And that's how the guy got stabbed. | ||
| He didn't advance on the guy, the guy advanced on him. | ||
| That's crazy! | ||
| And that was like eight days ago? | ||
| That's a really quick trial. | ||
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That's really crazy. | |
| No, it was two years ago. | ||
| It was just two years ago? | ||
| I just heard about it. | ||
| I'm very confused. | ||
| I've heard someone told me that it was a very emotional courtroom. | ||
| Was that Carter also? | ||
| He made a few comments about it. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm just... It's very obvious the direction of things. | ||
| And I wonder if the Sultanate's story about how policing operates is just... It's dominoes falling over. | ||
| No matter what you do, when you get a society like this, it will always tend towards the path of least resistance. | ||
| That is, with, like, George Floyd, the police are... Ahmed Arbery's a really good example. | ||
| The cops are like, we don't care if these guys are guilty or not guilty. | ||
| We just don't want to deal with it. | ||
| So lock them up for the rest of their lives. | ||
| And that was the point of the Constitution, to prevent things like this. | ||
| But this is what you get. | ||
| I mean, look at the story Doug Mackey was telling us. | ||
| Uh, he gets found guilty for posting a meme he found on the internet. | ||
| He just tweeted it. | ||
| He found a meme and he tweeted it out. | ||
| And then they're like, now you're going to jail for election fraud or whatever, injuring people. | ||
| And it's like, how did the jurors... | ||
| It's so brutal. | ||
| If I was there, I'd be like, no, you say he's not guilty and we can leave. | ||
| You want to go home, you say not guilty. | ||
| But this is what we get right now. | ||
| Finally what happens is, you know they went back and the people who are like, he's guilty | ||
| said just say he's guilty so we can leave and they went fine. | ||
| It's so brutal. | ||
| If I was there, I'd be like, no, you say he's not guilty and we can leave. | ||
| You want to go home, you say not guilty. | ||
| But this is what we get right now. | ||
| Jurors don't want to do jury duty. | ||
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Also, I'm just you're scared as a woman, mostly to knowing that the police is afraid to intervene | |
| if somebody is attacking you. | ||
| Because there are so much limit to think about George Floyd and all other cases. | ||
| They're always getting to the police for overpower their force, always on the other side. | ||
| Criminals are let free. | ||
| I see in California, for example, this is this crazy law that you can steal up to the | ||
| value of $1,000, right? | ||
| So you have this gang of people going into the Gucci store and stealing bags. | ||
| And then just you see the security looking at them, not even bothering calling police | ||
| because there is nothing you can do. | ||
| And this is a completely crazy society. | ||
| Let's be realistic where this police is afraid to intervene because they're going to have issues themselves. | ||
| It's more likely they end up going to jail than the criminal. | ||
| You're calling the police against. | ||
| So how can you afford that in the long term? | ||
| You have cities, big cities, full of criminals and the police that is basically not interested in intervening anymore. | ||
| Why would you do that? | ||
| Why would I do for my low salary risk my life at the time and then knowing that probably the jury will tell me that I've been violent, I've been racist, I don't know. | ||
| If on the other side you happen to have a person of color or anything else, a minority group. | ||
| It's just crazy. | ||
| This is the other side of indoctrination. | ||
| This is the other issue you have when, you know, you build up this entire narrative that some categories must be protected, even if they're criminals, right? | ||
| You're scared to intervene. | ||
| You can't do anything about it. | ||
| What do they call it? | ||
| Anarcho-tyranny? | ||
| Tyranny of the majority? | ||
| Worst of both, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, because people are so afraid of, or have been, of the cops and police violence that it swung in the other direction. | ||
| They were so concerned with government overreach that there are now crowds of people storming and seizing and taking a bridge and holding, was it the Golden Gate in San Francisco? | ||
| Was that Golden Gate? | ||
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Yes, yeah. | |
| They took control of a bridge and blocked, they conquered a bridge, or at least they held a bridge for a time. | ||
| Cops should have been there. | ||
| They should have been there with fire hoses as far as I'm concerned. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Dude, the video's wild. | ||
| I mean, they're all laughing. | ||
| They shove him to the ground, smack him in the face, try to push him down again, and they're all laughing as they're doing it. | ||
| And the argument's supposed to be that he was threatening them because he ran up to them, and it's like he didn't say anything to them. | ||
| Did he, is there, like, did he, before the video, is that what happened? | ||
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Before the video he harassed them and then they... Which chance a normal person would go after a gang and, you know, start a fight? | |
| I mean, is it suicidal, you know? | ||
| I don't believe that. | ||
| But he did lie to the cops right after it happened. | ||
| If he felt like he was justified, I don't know why. | ||
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Yeah, exactly. | |
| Just like Daniel Penny, you know? | ||
| Very good for him to surrender. | ||
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It's true. | |
| Some people turn themselves in and then they're the ones that end up getting arrested. | ||
| Every time? | ||
| When the Antifa and the Proud Boys in New York. | ||
| That's exactly what's gonna happen. | ||
| Proud Boys stayed to talk to the cops. | ||
| I'm not surprised. | ||
| We're at a point where a guy's like, I defended myself, but now the cops are gonna lock me up forever. | ||
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Mhm. | |
| Welcome to the Gulag Archipelago. | ||
| Really? | ||
| I don't think it was that bad. | ||
| That's the story that Solzhenitsyn wrote. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| That when the guy was trying to kill the soldier, the soldier defended himself, so he went to jail. | ||
| You're, like, this is it. | ||
| You're not allowed to defend yourself. | ||
| These, like, you know, we got a super chat, what did Sonny G says? | ||
| You need to hear the whole story. | ||
| The man hit the girl in the face first, and the teen boys drunk intervened. | ||
| That man gutted them all. | ||
| Why were they surrounding him and screaming at him and yelling for the culture and for the culture? | ||
| So I can't speak for Wisconsin, but in Illinois, that's assault. | ||
| So, not in every state. | ||
| In New York, assault requires physical damage. | ||
| Meaning, in New York, if someone grabs you, there's no crime committed. | ||
| In Illinois, if someone lunges at you, they've committed assault. | ||
| If they touch you in any way, it's battery. | ||
| Let alone if they injure you. | ||
| So, very different. | ||
| So, in Illinois, I can't- again, this is Wisconsin. | ||
| If a bunch of people surround you, screaming and pointing their hands at you, screaming in your face, insulting you and yelling for the culture, yeah, you're allowed to defend yourself. | ||
| Granted, you're not allowed to defend yourself with any kind of weapon or anything in Illinois. | ||
| They'll lock you up for having a rubber switch. | ||
| Or actually, I think it's the only one you're allowed to have. | ||
| So, off of that comment that we got, Dante Carlson was the witness that was there. | ||
| He said, he initially told police that he saw Mew hit another woman, but then he changed his story before trial. | ||
| So that was an early, yeah, that's what he said initially. | ||
| It's on video, you see the woman shove him. | ||
| The guy, Nick Mew, is just standing there, and then she shoves him, and he fall- When he does, that's when he grabs the folding knife from his pocket, and flips it out. | ||
| So they're- Then, they shove him to the ground, he falls down, they smack him in the face, and the dude who died then jumps at him to knock him back down, he's just getting up, and you- Watch the video! | ||
| The Mew just has the knife in his hand like this, and he goes like that. | ||
| He didn't lunge at anybody, and then, as they're all screaming and surrounding him, he does start slashing or whatever. | ||
| So you're saying Mew told the police he punched the girl? | ||
| No, no, no, there was somebody else that was there. | ||
| They initially told the police, oh, I saw him hit a girl. | ||
| And then he changed his story before trial. | ||
| Oh, and they said he didn't see him hit a girl. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then, like, there was another person that said that they were, you know, they were drinking beer, and then, like, they were just like, we couldn't really remember the timeline of events, you know, so it got, it got, you know, fuzzy. | ||
| And they're, you know, but despite the fact that their testimonies don't seem to be consistent, the conviction went the other way, so. | ||
| Unsettling. | ||
| I don't know how to talk about this very well. | ||
| I don't know what to say. | ||
| I'm like a video game guy. | ||
| I'm like an entertainer. | ||
| I mean, it's horrific, but I don't have all the details either. | ||
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Well, let's talk about the other story then. | |
| We've got this story from People Video Show. | ||
| Chicago police firing 96 shots in less than one minute during deadly traffic stop. | ||
| Dexter Reed was killed during that stop. | ||
| Now how come, you know what, I did this on my earlier segment, but I'll just do this right now. | ||
| Let's just, I'll just fix the headline while we're here. | ||
| Let's see, article headline, and here's a text, and we'll, some editorial guidelines here for people. | ||
| Let's put, man shoots at cops, is killed after they return fire. | ||
| And there we go, people. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| The headline has now been fixed. | ||
| I did that in real time. | ||
| Was not hard, People Magazine. | ||
| Maybe you could, you know, that could be your title for this article, but unfortunately it's not. | ||
| Almost every major news outlet is writing the headline like this, the pictures they're showing of him. | ||
| I'll see if People Magazine has it. | ||
| They show him, like, in his graduation, and I'm like, look, we get it. | ||
| People have good photos, they have bad photos. | ||
| But this is a video where they're like, why was he even stopped? | ||
| They say he didn't have his seatbelt on. | ||
| He gets pulled over. | ||
| He appears to have something covering his face. | ||
| The cop says, don't roll your window up. | ||
| He's just rolling his window up. | ||
| And she's like, stop, stop. | ||
| She backs up, pulls out her weapon. | ||
| There's several officers surrounding the vehicle screaming, stop, roll the window down. | ||
| And then all of a sudden you hear bang, bang, bang. | ||
| And they all run screaming, shots fired, shots fired. | ||
| One of the cops got shot. | ||
| So then they open fire on the vehicle. | ||
| And then he comes out, dies. | ||
| They find a vehicle, they find a gun in the passenger seat. | ||
| So the question is like, Why did he roll up his window and not get out of the car? | ||
| He had a gun. | ||
| But he shot through his window? | ||
| Or did he- the window was still cracked and he fired out the window at someone and hit the cop? | ||
| Through the window. | ||
| It does look like in the video, like, glass may go flying or something. | ||
| So, he may have opened fire. | ||
| The media's been very careful in how they reported this. | ||
| The police have said he shot a cop. | ||
| Cop got shot. | ||
| Yeah, when I search his name on Brave Search, Dexter Reedus says, a 26-year-old black man was shot and killed by Chicago police officers during a traffic stop on March 21st, 2024. | ||
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Yeah, they always make it look like it's the police going around attacking Afro-Americans, right? | |
| It's just like they build up, even in the media, with these headlines, this hatred toward the police, up to the movement Defund the Police. | ||
| To me, the police should be paid so much more. | ||
| When I see the crime scene in America, I would make a movement to increase the salaries of the police and stop arresting them in the media and let them do their job. | ||
| I mean, to me, it sounds crazy. | ||
| Look at WGN9 Chicago. | ||
| Copa. | ||
| This is Cop Oversight. | ||
| Police fired 96 times after being fired upon in fatal Humboldt Park shooting last month. | ||
| Hey, that's an acceptable headline. | ||
| How about that one? | ||
| I accept it. | ||
| After they were fired upon. | ||
| But look what happens when you Google this. | ||
| Look at all the stories. | ||
| Head of Chicago police oversight wants officers stripped of powers. | ||
| Dexter Reed body camera footage shows 96 shots fired. | ||
| Deadly Chicago traffic stop where police fired 96 shots raises questions about use of force. | ||
| Dexter Reed shot and killed by police after traffic stop. | ||
| None of these, even the New York Post, none of them say And look, look at, look at Washington Post does. | ||
| Like, come on, man. | ||
| I'm sad that somebody died here, okay? | ||
| I don't want that to be the case. | ||
| But when they complain that whenever a person is committed, you know, committed of a crime or arrested for a crime, they use these horrible photos. | ||
| Well, dude, this guy is accused of shooting at cops 11 times, striking one of them, and then they returned fire. | ||
| And this is the photo you choose to use? | ||
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Yeah, even Jeffrey Hammer has a beautiful college picture at his graduation, you know? | |
| Yeah, they can post that one of them from now on. | ||
| So a lot of people are saying this is them trying to manufacture another George Floyd just in time for the election. | ||
| And did you see the video of his mother? | ||
| They killed my son. | ||
| He was just riding in his car and they killed him and then she faints. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Yeah, so she's, you know, helping bolster that narrative quite nicely. | ||
| She said he was just riding his car and they killed him. | ||
| He said, I'm going for a ride, that's all he was doing, why'd they kill him? | ||
| It's like, because she shot at them. | ||
| And then she faints. | ||
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She's like... Oh, because she's lying in public. | |
| She's like, I can't take it anymore. | ||
| I did wrong. | ||
| I think it's fair to say that there is a possibility He didn't fire on them. | ||
| The cops, a scared cop, fired first. | ||
| And that's why maybe news outlets, some news outlets are trying to be careful. | ||
| But when even the oversight agency said, no, they were fired on first. | ||
| It's like, okay, well then that's the premise we operate under. | ||
| They found a gun in his car. | ||
| Occam's razor suggests the cops did not accidentally shoot him. | ||
| Pull an acorn scenario where they think they're being shot at, kill a guy, and then have a gun to plant. | ||
| That's movie made up stupid BS. | ||
| Hey, I don't trust Chicago cops. | ||
| I got stories. | ||
| But Occam's Razor here, guys, the simple solution is, a dude who did not want to get out of his car, I wonder why, who was covering his face and rolling his window up, had a reason not to, apparently, and it was a gun, and then he used it on them. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| So it's still unknown if he opened fire first? | ||
| No, even police oversight said he did. | ||
| He did? | ||
| Yeah, the body camera footage shows the cops running the vehicle, you hear gunshots go off and the cops run, screaming, shots fired, shots fired. | ||
| I'm being very specific about what the video shows. | ||
| Oversight then said he fired on them first. | ||
| So I don't know what else you do. | ||
| Like, Occam's Razor, the least amount of assumptions. | ||
| Yeah, that's him shooting. | ||
| A cop got shot. | ||
| I don't think another cop just, like, shot a cop in the leg. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Well, this is the modern state of politics in this country, I suppose. | ||
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Yeah, no, they want emboldened criminals and demonize police and law and order. | |
| That's all they're trying to fight, law and order. | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| And just like with Trump, there's no pivot. | ||
| They're doing the same stuff with Trump this election cycle that they did in the first election cycle, just trying to make the same thing work again. | ||
| And perhaps this is another instance of that. | ||
| They're just like, OK, well, let's do George Floyd 2.0. | ||
| Can we make that work? | ||
| Yeah, because they want to. | ||
| Which is insane. | ||
| I don't think they want riots. | ||
| A lot of people are saying they want to make riots happen before an election. | ||
| No, they want to bolster Black Lives Matter and that narrative and blame Trump. | ||
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Yeah, they were waiting for Trump to get elected to incite another riot. | |
| Yeah, after Trump's president, then they can claim he's a dictator and try and remove him or something. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Megamikey says a year ago Dexter Reed was charged on three counts of unlawful use of a firearm. | ||
| Also, they never used his mugshot for the cover photo. | ||
| That's why police pulled him over. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yeah, I also read that he had tinted windows or something. | ||
| Tinted windows are a quick way to get pulled out of your car in Chicago because, uh... | ||
| I believe beyond 35%, uh, less than 35%, 35% tint, then they're illegal. | ||
| So that means like, that's a, that's a decent amount of light blocking. | ||
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35%. | |
| It means only 35% of light can actually get through the tint. | ||
| Those are fairly dark. | ||
| And then what ends up happening is a cop can't see what's going on. | ||
| You roll your window up and now they're like, okay, that's a threat. | ||
| You won't get out of your vehicle and this is what you get. | ||
| Man, I'm not sure what, I'm not, what are you thinking? | ||
| My creativity about the, I'm just so drained from the Civil War movie and these like bouts of street violence, like it doesn't bring me any joy. | ||
| It stresses me out. | ||
| I love to make great things and it's like hard to watch this sometimes. | ||
| It's important to acknowledge, but God, you know, healing, I want to heal the brain too. | ||
| Were you going to say something about it? | ||
| It sounds like you're just overwhelmed by both the fictional representations of crime and the real-life crime we're handling here right now. | ||
| Maybe that's what's going on. | ||
| I can totally relate to that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I was listening to a lot of explosions earlier today in the movie theater for like two hours. | ||
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It was pretty intense. | |
| Is that a prediction? | ||
| Did you feel like a sort of prediction, something that is likely to come to reality soon? | ||
| Not like that, no. | ||
| I think a peaceful fascist takeover is more likely, where people start putting themselves in pods and just plugging their veins into a nutrition dump, and they're like, uh... We're there. | ||
| This is literally what's happening right now. | ||
| You get a letter in the mail saying jury duty, and people crumple it up and throw it in the garbage, and they're like, I ain't doing that. | ||
| And then you end up with someone facing very serious charges, and the government is like, we want to put him in jail forever, and if you want to go home, you have to say yes. | ||
| And then the jurors are like, ugh, I don't care about this guy, I just want to go home. | ||
| Fine, whatever you want to do, bye. | ||
| That's where we're at. | ||
| So it is. | ||
| You get a dictatorship when regular people are not interested in jury duty. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| The era of 12 angry men isn't really what we're living in now. | ||
| I mean, there's not really going to be that one lone voice. | ||
| I mean, I guess there are people like that that actually would stand up for some sort of principles or they'd really dig into a case and say, no, I don't, I think everybody, I think all the people in this room are wrong, but I think the capacity for people to express that is pretty low, generally speaking. | ||
| And those jurors are losing work days the longer they stay there. | ||
| I don't know if they're not getting paid. | ||
| I don't know how jury dirty work, jury dirty, jury dirty. | ||
| They get like a modified payment. | ||
| We're never going to... The system's never going to be fixed. | ||
| Congress is never going to pass a bill. | ||
| There's no incentive for corrupt people to fix the system. | ||
| It needs to be that if you get jury duty, then you show how much money you make at your job and they cover it 100%. | ||
| And then they would just give it to poor people. | ||
| That would be... | ||
| Yeah, probably the case. | ||
| Oh yeah, you're right. | ||
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That's true. | |
| And I was called for a jury duty during my immigration process, and I was not even eligible for being in the jury, and they were threatening me. | ||
| If you don't present yourself this day in the court in Los Angeles, we're going to start a criminal procedure for breaching your duty. | ||
| And then I called and said, listen, I have an exemption, because actually I can't. | ||
| I can't be there in my current status, so they let me go, but it was pretty odd, you know. | ||
| I got a jury duty call before my green card. | ||
| I guess it's how they vote, too, with ballots. | ||
| I don't know how many legal votes here. | ||
| I've never been illegal, but, you know, how things operate, it looks like they don't do their due diligence well enough. | ||
| The another thing is it's important to remember is innocent people are innocent until they're proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt of any kind. | ||
| They're innocent and that's the way the legal system works and it's got to continue to stay like that. | ||
| I think culturally people think very differently in terms of that now. | ||
| It's not really just like innocent until proven guilty. | ||
| I think that the guilt just sort of gets showered on people, especially if they're a demonized person or a public demonized person. | ||
| And that makes it even more complicated for fair application of the law. | ||
| It's funny, the Founding Fathers are like, innocent until proven guilty, and the people are just like, we don't care. | ||
| But that's really kind of the basic, you know, raw human emotion is just to declare somebody guilty instead of going in the opposite direction, which is what the Founding Fathers envisioned. | ||
| Like, that's a very base human impulse to just, you know, come with people like Frankenstein with the fire torches. | ||
| You just want to take him down. | ||
| You don't kill the bad guy. | ||
| It really is a country of restraint. | ||
| The United States is a country, the Constitution is immense restraint. | ||
| Those guys understood you have to hold back your willingness and want to use power. | ||
| That is what this is all about. | ||
| Let your neighbors be great. | ||
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Media makes sentences more than courts today, right? | |
| They brainwash people so much. | ||
| Think about Trump. | ||
| Everybody has been accused of so many things but in the perception is guilty of that many things and those because of the media. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, you look at the fraud cases and all this stuff. | ||
| The judge just bangs the gavel and says, it's true. | ||
| And then you get these people screaming on camera being like, it's true! | ||
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It's true! | |
| This proves it! | ||
| And it's like, man. | ||
| It's how you get Nazis. | ||
| It's how you get Stalin. | ||
| It's how you get communists. | ||
| Regular people are like, what is that, authority? | ||
| It's true? | ||
| Okay, it's true then. | ||
| It's easier than thinking. | ||
| It is. | ||
| Trust the science. | ||
| Jimmy Dore's great bit where he's like, you know, on no other subject would someone say this, like, you're going to buy a car. | ||
| It's like, well, don't look into it. | ||
| It's like, what? | ||
| How am I supposed to know which car to buy? | ||
| Ask the salesman. | ||
| He's the expert. | ||
| That's how these people live. | ||
| The authority is everything. | ||
| Nothing else matters. | ||
| It's wild. | ||
| I wonder if it's just like a natural filtration process where credentialism, critical thinkers who are like, I don't know if this guy is telling me the truth regardless of his credentials, are filtered out and the left is literally just people who believe whatever they hear from a trusted authority. | ||
| I don't even know if it's necessarily the leftists. | ||
| I mean, I think about some of the people that I know and some of the people in my family, and they're not really leftists. | ||
| They don't have any kind of core political ideology that guides them. | ||
| They just turn on the corporate press and get poisoned by it. | ||
| It's the authority. | ||
| Whatever the authority says is fine. | ||
| And the level of comfort in the country for people like If I just go along with what I'm told, I'll get to do this again tomorrow. | ||
| I'll get to sit in my house and retire. | ||
| Yeah, get your dopamine drip from your phone. | ||
| You know, you have nothing that really overly, like, pokes you or prods you into changing anything because you're like, oh, well, this is nice. | ||
| I can sit with my phone. | ||
| It's like, oh, well, that's happening outside there. | ||
| You can sit in the movie, too. | ||
| Like, that war's happening over there. | ||
| It's not happening in my neighborhood. | ||
| It takes a lot to get to, like, an actual person actually bothering them to do anything. | ||
| Even people that are morally ethical can be just twisted by that behavior of accepting what you're being told from the outside. | ||
| I think a lot of them are just trapped in it, hopelessly so, which is really sad. | ||
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Yeah, killing critical thinking is the best way to control, you know? | |
| So I think it's a technique mastered by every dictatorship on a side or another. | ||
| Look at Italy and the bad history of fascism sometimes ago. | ||
| That was exactly the trust in the authority as you trust God. | ||
| So you never question, you know, right? | ||
| So that's really like going to attack the critical thinking, which should, you know, talk and preserve and teach people how to think. | ||
| You're talking about Mussolini? | ||
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Oh yeah. | |
| Is that what he did? | ||
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Yes, like basically equalizing authority to God. | |
| You know, like you trust whatever the authority tells you. | ||
| It's like a God word. | ||
| So people accept everything you say, even if it's evil. | ||
| I think the liberals are doing that in America. | ||
| Everything that comes from their mouth is sacred in many ways, right? | ||
| Nobody questions it. | ||
| Nobody questions Joe Biden, come on. | ||
| Was it like that with Mussolini? | ||
| Do you know a lot about the history of Mussolini? | ||
| Was it like that before he came to power? | ||
| Were people just blind to authority? | ||
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No, he's the one who actually came to power with very good principles, but completely twisting them and pushing them to the extent of using a good facade of values to convince people to believe in Him and the authority as God. | |
| Let's say, it's like liberals talk about inclusion and non-discrimination, but actually they are doing exactly the opposite. | ||
| They are discriminating everyone who thinks differently They are everything but liberal when it comes to inclusions because if you are a MAGA or a right-wing person, you're seen as hell and actually everything that happens to you, even if somebody kills me today, it's okay because, you know, she was a right-wing propagandist, you know. | ||
| I've seen that threats on my social media where they feel entitled to hate you based on your political beliefs and Mussolini was the same. | ||
| Basically good values, low family and country, but not just as a facade to give trust to people in the authority, like blind trust, and then make them accept alliances with Nazi without questioning it. | ||
| Did he turn on his own people? | ||
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Well, Italian Jews, yes. | |
| Oh, he did? | ||
| Was that after he allied with the Nazis? | ||
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Yes, yes. | |
| He just went along with Hitler? | ||
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Yes. | |
| Like a lot of people I'd actually consider that he's kind of, he was Hitler's mentor in the early days. | ||
| Hitler looked at him and was like, ooh, that's what a good dictator is like. | ||
| And Mussolini had invaded, I think, Northeast Africa. | ||
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Yes, yes. | |
| And then Hitler was like, I'm just going to invade because everybody's doing it now. | ||
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Italy was very safe. | |
| It was providing a certain level of general wealth, you know, like people were living well. | ||
| So people, and then generating into them this trust and this like religious trust in the authority. | ||
| And this is dangerous. | ||
| Because they were doing well, it was able to generate a blind trust. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Because they felt like they were getting their livelihood from the authority. | ||
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Yes. | |
| And if you hear like old people, even right now, they would say, oh, the good time, like I'm talking about 95 years old people in Italy, the good time of Mussolini, because they are completely cut off, you know, the rest. | ||
| Just remember the quality of life of this time. | ||
| I see that technique in the liberals today in America. | ||
| They master it so well, like they actually are masters in projection and they use nice words to incite people to do bad things. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So everything that happened to a Trump supporter is good. | ||
| It's even the most vile action. | ||
| I mean, there's a level of intolerance that is unprecedented in any culture I've seen in the world. | ||
| are the one that promotes inclusion, tolerance, actually they scream like psychopaths if you | ||
| don't agree with them. I mean there's a level of intolerance that is unprecedented in any | ||
| culture I've seen in the world. I mean these people are unhinged. | ||
| Yeah, toxically compassionate sometimes with especially with letting people across the | ||
| border illegally en masse in these That's like, yes, inclusion, inclusion, but if you include poison in your veins, you're gonna die. | ||
| So you can't include everything around you. | ||
| If you include a mass murderer at your dinner table, you're gonna be in probably a lot of trouble if he decides to go haywire. | ||
| So you really gotta be careful about who you... I'm not saying to be xenophobic, because people are phenomenal, but in the wrong... You gotta be discerning in the way you include. | ||
| Yeah, that's key. | ||
| These people don't have discernment. | ||
| They don't have intellectual or spiritual discernment when it comes to these matters. | ||
| That's really interesting. | ||
| You can't just include poison in an injection, but that's the thing. | ||
| They don't have that capability or willingness to be discerning of what's good and what's bad. | ||
| Maybe because they don't have some core values to rely on when things are really tough and things are tough right now. | ||
| Because they were raised on South Park. | ||
| No offense, guys, Trey, but that's like a hard, nasty show guised as a cartoon. | ||
| Like, little kids that thought that was normal. | ||
| I watched, like, Looney Tunes. | ||
| And then South Park was like an adult show, but I think little kids were watching it, thinking it was okay to act like that or talk like that. | ||
| Because I knew kids in, like, grade school, high school, who watched South Park. | ||
| Yeah, and so little kids were like, I'mma, I'mma, I'mma, this is normal, this is who... And everyone keeps saying, like, it's a parental issue, and I'm like, well, parents have failed them. | ||
| Because when I was a kid, we couldn't watch Beavis and Budhead. | ||
| There were parental controls in the cable box, and you needed a four-digit code to unlock certain channels. | ||
| And in only certain episodes, my mom would be like, okay, we can watch this one, this one's like... And then today, I just love how it's like, as soon as it came to the internet, our society was just like, we no longer need to provide any | ||
| legal restrictions for minors on the for anything, period. So it's like, there's a story going | ||
| around where high school kids are AI generating porn of their classmates. So these are | ||
| children. And they're just like, what do we do about it? It's like, what do you do about kids going to | ||
| adult bookstores? | ||
| Like, you don't let them in! | ||
| But for some reason, the internet is full of these people who are like, NO YOU CAN'T TAKE AWAY MY PORN! | ||
| It's like, yeah, we're gonna age-verify things the way they should have been a long time ago. | ||
| And ban young people from unsupervised use of the internet. | ||
| I just, I'm sick of this. | ||
| It's the parents' job. | ||
| It's like, okay, well, the left is indoctrinating your kids, then have a nice day. | ||
| You refuse, like, the right refuses to use any kind of authority. | ||
| Like, we're at the point where the left is having children strip on stage in, like, gay clubs, and the left, and the right is still like, hmm, the parents should be better parents. | ||
| It's like, well, okay, I guess. | ||
| Is the right so scared of using authority because they keep being accused of being authoritarians? | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
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Probably. | |
| I think Trump was when he didn't call out the National Guard on the day two of the George Floyd riot. | ||
| I'm pretty sure that's why he didn't call them out right away. | ||
| He didn't want to seem like a fascist totem. | ||
| But other people I think are maybe the really well-thought people that don't want to use the government to authoritarianism to stop this stuff is because they don't want it to get then turned against other aspects of society that aren't unrighteous, that aren't evil that are actually good that some crazy government is | ||
| like no no you can't say fuck on the internet no you can't say that and that kind of | ||
| thing and then like banning people to say that words they don't like and crap like that or | ||
| imagery they don't like you can't wear red shirts on tuesday no you're bad like you don't want to give | ||
| any government that kind of authority but then the other option is anarcho-tyranny do you want a | ||
| wide open internet of people showing four-year-olds pornography no no people don't want that | ||
| either but the right is unwilling to legislate this stuff they're they're like this this has | ||
| been consistently the theme with the right They will not wield power. | ||
| They win seats in Congress and then go, okay, now we'll do nothing. | ||
| And they all high-five as the Democrats encroach further and further. | ||
| I'm thinking of the metaphor of, like, in a military conflict where one side just refuses to finish the job because it feels like it's just going too far, and then they just get wiped out because they wouldn't finish the job. | ||
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Well, we have to get rid from the dictatorship of the politically correct on the right as well. | |
| Like we are afraid to take any action or implement any law because we're afraid to be seen as authoritarian or because it's politically sensitive. | ||
| No, just implement the policies and the platform you voted for and go for it. | ||
| I want to see more of that in politics on the right side because I agree with Tim. | ||
| I mean, that things shouldn't be allowed. | ||
| What would be a good example of that? | ||
| How would you define that? | ||
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Just put a law that bans access to certain content to minors. | |
| I know the internet is very difficult to regulate, but we have to do it at some point. | ||
| should be a major issue from legislators to make sure that kids and minors don't have | ||
| access to this content or punish whoever violate these norms or not giving access to, I don't | ||
| know, clubs like that to minors that are dancing on stage, you know, like gay club stages and | ||
| doing all these kind of things. | ||
| We are afraid to come across as authoritarian. | ||
| Well, let's get rid from the fear of this dictatorship that is the politically correct. | ||
| There is nothing such as politically correct. | ||
| There is your platform you have been voted upon and just make your job to make sure the society is in order. | ||
| Because, you know, the responsibility is not only the family. | ||
| I'm sorry, it's not. | ||
| This is where that Civil War movie needed. | ||
| It needed, like, a scene where the journalists come across a drag show for kids outside of, like, some town. | ||
| And then, like, the movie starts with a bunch of people begging for water from an aid truck, and then a person with an American flag runs in and IEDs. | ||
| And it should have been a drag show for kids that someone runs in. | ||
| The Civil War narrative film needs to actually address modern politics to make its point. | ||
| Otherwise, it's just... | ||
| Hey look, war. | ||
| And I guess the idea is like in war films, people don't internalize it. | ||
| They say, wow, that's happening over there. | ||
| And they don't realize that if it were to happen here, what it would look like. | ||
| So I can respect that film in that respect, but there needs to be a film where it just like outright shows... | ||
| What the left does, and then how the right responds, and then take it to, like, take it up a notch. | ||
| You know, the funny thing is, like, we're talking about this film, and, you know, this is Fear of Civil War, but the element that's missing from the narrative is the weird behaviors of the factions. | ||
| Mostly the left. | ||
| And like, what they're trying to defend. | ||
| Like, the founding fathers are like, life, liberty, and family! | ||
| And the left is like, we want kids to read naughty books. | ||
| Like, that's their motive. | ||
| Yeah, the desire for full access to everything for kids is like, a little over the top. | ||
| I'm sorry, man. | ||
| You're sorry? | ||
| I'm sorry to admit that I used to be like that, that I was very much like, All of it, all the time. | ||
| Open it all up. | ||
| We've just now unlocked the internet. | ||
| This is the new paradigm. | ||
| Brace yourself. | ||
| Plug everybody in. | ||
| I was just like, the writing's on the wall. | ||
| Why deny it? | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| And I feel like I've actually kind of pushed us towards that in a way. | ||
| I used to make videos about it on YouTube and they were pretty well received by people. | ||
| They'd be confused, but they'd be like, really? | ||
| Oh. | ||
| But the reality is you got to protect those kids' brains. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| The principle is right until you can see now what they did of it, you know? | ||
| It was not the principle itself I can relate to, but when you see the generation of the content, it's just crazy. | ||
| You need to do something. | ||
| I mean, I'm such a boomer in terms of technology. | ||
| I find it hard to believe that you actually could implement legislation that keeps minors and children from accessing, you know, pornography and stuff like that. | ||
| Could you even do it? | ||
| Like, kids are gonna get fake IDs and sneak into adult bookstores. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| All right. | ||
| We still say they can't do it. | ||
| But ultimately, if it was implemented, it would prevent a lot of kids from doing it. | ||
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Right. | |
| So we make it so that these... and a lot of states are doing it. | ||
| Texas. | ||
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Right. | |
| You want to log into a website, you got to send in your ID. | ||
| And then people are like, people are like, Tim, say what Kamala Harris said! | ||
| And it's like, I don't care. | ||
| I literally don't care. | ||
| Cry about it. | ||
| Cry all day. | ||
| Like, my position is my position. | ||
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I don't care if you're angry. | |
| It was Nikki Haley. | ||
| Nikki Haley said that. | ||
| Yeah, Nikki Haley is like, we should have IDs for the internet. | ||
| But what did she say? | ||
| Like, everyone should be verified or something? | ||
| In order to use the internet, you should have to verify your identity. | ||
| Yeah, so I'll give you the clarified version of what, I don't know what she's talking about. | ||
| I'm saying, if you want to go to the grocery store, you don't need anything. | ||
| You can walk right in, walk right out, that's fine. | ||
| No one needs to card you to leave your home. | ||
| If you want to go to an adult bookstore or casino, you gotta show an ID. | ||
| Technically, if you're a minor, and you're alone, can't you just get picked up by the cops and taken home? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Like, you're not allowed to be walking around outside as a minor. | ||
| Well, it depends on the time of day. | ||
| Like, in Chicago, they have curfew, and it's wild. | ||
| I've never been picked up for curfew. | ||
| I'm pretty sure my brother has, though. | ||
| The only ever time I got stopped for curfew, I was with my brother, and so they just said, hey, you shouldn't be out, and he's like, he's with me, I'm old enough, and they're like, whatever, and then they just drove off. | ||
| But they will actually, you'll like, I think that's insane. | ||
| You're 16, you're walking down the street in Chicago at 10.30 and the cop will pull over, but get in. | ||
| Where you live. | ||
| Like that's the most conservative, like such a conservative law to look, put up against like four-year-olds seeing porn on their iPhone. | ||
| Here's the funny stories. | ||
| Like, I've heard a bunch of funny stories about, like, my friends would get picked up for curfew, and the cops would be like, your parents have to sign for you, and they would go, okay, and then they would give them the address on the other side of the alley from their home. | ||
| Because I don't know if, like, how many cities are like this. | ||
| But in Chicago, it's like, every house has a backyard and a garage, and then you go through the alley, and there's another garage, and so they're, like, back to back. | ||
| And so he's like, this is my house. | ||
| I'll go to my parents. | ||
| And then he walks out, walks into the backyard of a stranger's house, turns right, turns left, jumps the fence, jumps the fence again into his house, goes in his house and just closes the door. | ||
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Wow. | |
| And then the cops just are like, no idea. | ||
| He's just gone. | ||
| And they wait there for a certain amount of time and they're like, whatever, and they leave. | ||
| But it is pretty, it's always been pretty wild to me that I'm like, You could be 16 years old, and if you're out at 11 o'clock? | ||
| Like, that's crazy, because when I was like 16, I'd go to the comic shop. | ||
| We'd play, like, arcade. | ||
| We'd play Marvel vs. Capcom. | ||
| And then at, like, 10.30, I'd rollerblade home or something. | ||
| Well, no, when I was 16, I was skateboarding. | ||
| When I was 13, I was rollerblading. | ||
| But then I'd be, like, skateboarding home, and I'm like, what, a cop would just pick me up? | ||
| Never happened. | ||
| They don't really mess with people on wheels. | ||
| I never got messed with. | ||
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I was always on a bike. | |
| That's a good point. | ||
| No, I knew a kid who got a speeding ticket on a skateboard. | ||
| Oh my gosh, how fast was he going? | ||
| Like 20-something. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Yeah, he was bombing a hill. | ||
| And so the cops like went after him and he was like, I think it was a longboard or something. | ||
| But he was bombing this big hill and the speed limit was like 20. | ||
| It might have been a speed limit 15, I think. | ||
| And then he was going like, but I think he was going like 20 miles an hour. | ||
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Wow. | |
| And then the cops, and then he like slid in the grass and then they wrote him a ticket. | ||
| And he's like, what? | ||
| They're like, you were speeding. | ||
| And he's like, what? | ||
| And he's like, law doesn't say anything about what kind of vehicle you have to be on. | ||
| Oh, that's good to know. | ||
| I just got my license today, by the way, talking about speeding. | ||
| I passed the driving test on the first try. | ||
| I got my first drive test 30 years ago, but I'd let it lapse and expire, so I hadn't taken it since. | ||
| I was kind of excited to take the test again and find out. | ||
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Nice! | |
| I still got it, baby! | ||
| That's a milestone, baby! | ||
| Congratulations! | ||
| When he was taking the test, they start you off, you have to score at least a 95 to pass, and they start you off minus 10 points if you're a white male. | ||
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What? | |
| So I had to go behind the counter, get down on my knees, pray. | ||
| I was like, maybe it's possible. | ||
| You know, this goes crazy. | ||
| Everything's possible. | ||
| It's another weird thing I used to say. | ||
| Ian had to get his license because we're moving. | ||
| This room is empty and you can't even tell. | ||
| Yeah, I'm gonna be commuting to work after the studio's lit. | ||
| Oh wow, I didn't even notice. | ||
| The room's empty. | ||
| You're right! | ||
| Yeah, no one watching the show can realize that we're in an empty room right now. | ||
| The move is real. | ||
| It's happening. | ||
| But it is funny because no one can even see the table that we're sitting at. | ||
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It's a big, nice table, by the way. | |
| Someone once told me that they thought the show was all of us at our own little desks in separate parts of the room, and I was like, that's weird. | ||
| When I first started, I was, like, alone in a corner desk. | ||
| Remember when we had Malice and Jones on? | ||
| No, no, no, that wasn't the first one. | ||
| Early on. | ||
| First, you were actually just sitting off to the side. | ||
| Oh yeah, that was at the old Jersey house. | ||
| We had an extra set in the corner where you could come and go if we had extra guests. | ||
| You could hear me on the mic, but he'd be way over there, so it'd be real weird talking to him when he was like 30 feet away. | ||
| But that was when we had extra people. | ||
| And you came up and you'd sit down and we were like... | ||
| Like, yeah, we need a bigger desk. | ||
| We should talk to Thomas Massey about doing legislation to ban this stuff, because he's the most righteous congressman as far as I can tell, in my opinion. | ||
| Oh yeah, agreed. | ||
| I don't know, I kind of feel like he'd just be like, I'm opposed to any kind of restrictions and regulations. | ||
| You think he's going to lean super libertarian on that? | ||
| Parents should do it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's just like, I guess it's true that parents should do it. | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| But I think what's going to happen then is that the far left lies to parents, the parents then go along with it, and the kids' brains fall out of their heads. | ||
| That's exactly what's happening. | ||
| Schools could ban phones. | ||
| You could make public schools ban phones. | ||
| Then we'd lose a lot of fight footage that's floating around out there. | ||
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But isn't it the right-left that is claiming authority to take over parenthood if they consider that the parents are not Understanding of the gender journey. | |
| It's not even that, the left has already said it's our children. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| It's like MSNBC or something that said it's our children. | ||
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So, you know, you have on the side they claim authority, they take over, and on the other side they'll let it to the parents, you know? | |
| We have to find a middle ground because they're taking over in every way, anyway. | ||
| Yep, that's true. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Yeah, it is. | ||
| Um, I don't, I mean, it's, it's not like you're bringing a gun to school, like bringing a phone to school is not like bringing a gun to school, but the information can warp your mind in such a way that it can never be undone. | ||
| Like, I still remember that movie. | ||
| Chances are, I was talking about last night, just some weird movie I saw where the guy dates is, is reborn. | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| He dates his daughter. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Robert Downey Jr. | ||
| Sybil Shepard. | ||
| And, uh, it twisted my mind. | ||
| Not necessarily in a horrible way. | ||
| What was it called? | ||
| Chances are. | ||
| And this is where like the guy dies and comes back and then tries to bang his daughter. | ||
| Yeah, he's so in love that he runs through the line waiting to get vaccinated so he forgets his past life, and then he just bypasses that and gets reborn, and then he meets a girl he's dating, and then he starts to remember that it's his daughter, I guess. | ||
| It's been so long since I saw it. | ||
| What's the name of the... Chances are... | ||
| But it was like a sexual fantasy of mine as a kid. | ||
| It was weird. | ||
| Twisted me in a weird way. | ||
| Bang your daughter? | ||
| I don't remember that aspect. | ||
| I just remember Shepard being real hot and I was like, she's really attractive. | ||
| And Robert Downey Jr. | ||
| is really making her really attractive in this movie somehow. | ||
| And I was like 10 or 12 and it stuck with me for years after that. | ||
| Yeah, I didn't see that movie. | ||
| No one knew that young. | ||
| That probably would be a trip. | ||
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Yeah, it was weird. | |
| A mind warp. | ||
| That was just a simple movie. | ||
| So these phones in schools, if a kid's like, look, and they show you the most graphic, you don't even ask for it, and a kid's like, look at this. | ||
| Because kids can be pretty dickish in school. | ||
| I've had kids come up and do some pretty cruel shit to me. | ||
| And if a kid just shows someone some horrid shit, do you blame their parent? | ||
| Do you have to guilt by association? | ||
| Or do you, what do you do, take, what were you going to say? | ||
| Well, I mean, like, right now, they're literally just like, this is you. | ||
| Naked. | ||
| You know, I mean, that's what they're doing. | ||
| They got these AI-generated... I mean, they could literally just, like, show you what seems to be you without clothes on. | ||
| I mean, that's how crazy AI is, and how quickly it's erupted. | ||
| I mean, in terms of who do you appeal to first, I mean, my first thought would be the parents, but I guess everybody would deal with it differently. | ||
| Do you think it's like too tyrannical to petition public schools to ban, like the Department of Education to ban phones, cell phones from public schools? | ||
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Maybe, maybe not. | |
| Maybe it's a good idea. | ||
| I mean, it's very difficult to control, you know, because, for example, I have a young niece and she's at school, this is in Italy, we have the same issues, and her parents told her not to bring, they never allowed her to have a phone, but when she goes to school, all her friends at school have a phone, so just play with their phone, you know? | ||
| So maybe this is a solution. | ||
| How old are your kids? | ||
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She is eight. | |
| Yeah, homeschool. | ||
| Homeschool your kids. | ||
| Kids don't listen to you at home. | ||
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Homeschool, yeah. | |
| I think homeschool is the safest. | ||
| My kids are really young, you know, and they listen as good as they can. | ||
| They're, you know, three and a half and two. | ||
| But I've also talked to parents that have done the homeschooling thing, and they often report that my kids don't listen to me. | ||
| And they don't listen in school either. | ||
| Right, but I've also heard stories from people that are just like, well I couldn't teach my kid how to play guitar, even though I'm a guitar player. | ||
| My kid will not listen to me, so he had to send his kid to a professional teacher. | ||
| I mean, I know it sounds counterintuitive, I know it sounds counterintuitive, but this is the anecdotal stories that I'm hearing as I'm really trying to sort out what I'm going to do with these kids when it comes time to go into school. | ||
| And I'm totally conflicted about it. | ||
| I've got some time to figure it out, but I really don't know what the right move is. | ||
| I think the right move is what humans did for 40,000 years, 50,000 years. | ||
| But we're not in that time anymore. | ||
| We're into the vortex. | ||
| I can see why that phenomenon you're talking about happens. | ||
| The external authority is like, okay, it's not, my parents have been telling me what to do for three, five years. | ||
| I'm whatever. | ||
| You're telling me one more thing to do. | ||
| This guy now is telling me something new and he's fresh. | ||
| So I've got some added intensity to this being told. | ||
| So maybe if you have a tutor come over to your house and teach them with you and let the kids know you're as good as they are and you're an equal authority, then they'll look to you with that value. | ||
| Well, perhaps. | ||
| Homeschool your kids. | ||
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It's probably the only solution. | |
| Or like do it in the backyard or get out of the house. | ||
| Do you think changing the venue might help? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm just throwing stuff out there. | ||
| Maybe not. | ||
| It's really tough to say. | ||
| The other thing is that like what I've heard is that like kids that have really bad home lives will behave at home because they're terrified of what their parents will do. | ||
| But then they go to you know daycare or like a preschool and they're wild. | ||
| They act crazy and they have problems at school. | ||
| But kids that have a good home life They act crazy at home, but they behave themselves outside of the home, because they get all that stuff out with their parents. | ||
| But when they're with somebody that's not their parents, they already know how to behave. | ||
| I talk to a lot of people that are parents, and I'm really trying to sort this out for myself. | ||
| And I think it's really, really complicated. | ||
| It's more complicated than just homeschool your kids, is what I'm getting at. | ||
| Yeah, but I mean, like, even back in the day, some dude would get a homestead in the middle of nowhere with his family. | ||
| He'd have, like, four or five kids and a wife, and they- the kids would farm and the kids would work. | ||
| Great. | ||
| We're not back in the day, though. | ||
| We're not back in the day. | ||
| So what's the issue? | ||
| I will get back to you on that. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Because we're in the 21st century, children have just stopped acting like children have for hundreds of thousands of years. | ||
| I don't think that's necessarily a crazy thing to posit. | ||
| Because I mean, like, look, I mean, we were just talking about how, like, you have AI generated nudes that people are showing each other of themselves in high schools. | ||
| But that's why you don't, you homeschool your kids. | ||
| I know, but you don't give your kid phones. | ||
| You don't give your kid phones? | ||
| Yeah, don't give your kid a phone. | ||
| So when do you give your kid a phone? | ||
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16 maybe? | |
| Okay, so you're a 16-year-old in school, you have your phone, like... No, you're not in school, you're homeschooled! | ||
| But, I mean, like, the problem with the phone technology still exists. | ||
| Yeah, friends, if they have a friend that has a phone or they have their mom's phone or something... So you don't... And you just don't let them hang out at that person's house because they have a phone at the house? | ||
| That's intense. | ||
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That... | |
| I mean, my mom wouldn't- I knew a kid in the neighborhood that put gasoline on the ground and lit it on fire, and they were all like, haha, yeah! | ||
| And I went home and I told my parents, I was like, it was cool, we were like- And my dad was like, you can never hang out with him again, he's a fireman. | ||
| And I never hung out with him again. | ||
| Never saw him again. | ||
| You can accept that moral degeneracy is here to stay. | ||
| That children are gonna get access to phones, and scat porn, and snuff, and murder, and all these things, and there's nothing you can do about it, so give up. | ||
| Give up. | ||
| This is the position that conservatives have taken on abortion. | ||
| Conservatives have said, we cannot win the abortion argument, so abandon it. | ||
| And Trump came out and said, we'll let the states decide. | ||
| They're literally saying it's baby murder, but the states can decide if they want to murder babies. | ||
| They've abandoned the moral position. | ||
| This is why many pro-lifers are mad at Trump right now, because he's not arguing. | ||
| So if the argument is, look, we're in this era, you can't stop kids, they're going to do it, then accept your kids will grow up to be degenerates. | ||
| It's gonna happen, have fun. | ||
| You can't do anything about it. | ||
| Or you can homeschool your kids and reject it, and do your best to keep your family away from this stuff. | ||
| And then perhaps there'll be regenerates. | ||
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Regenerates. | |
| Redemption pattern from the generation. | ||
| I'm raising a bunch of regeneration. | ||
| I think the reason why, you know, we had Nick Freitas on the show. | ||
| Great guy. | ||
| Talking about his family and I was like, I feel like, you know, I asked him about his family and I mentioned the phase of, you know, I hate you dad. | ||
| And he's like, we never had that. | ||
| And I was like, I figured, and I was going to ask you this because of just like his moral demeanor and the way he behaves and stuff. | ||
| I don't think, I was like, based on who he is, he would have that phase where his kids were like, I hate you. | ||
| And I said, I think the reason we've developed this, I hate you dad phase is because parents leave their kids. | ||
| How was it for tens of thousands of years? | ||
| As soon as the kid was old enough, he was grabbing the wood to help the dad. | ||
| He'd say, do what you can. | ||
| The kid was, he's like, okay, you're, you're six, you're old enough now, pick up that bucket of water and bring it over to me. | ||
| And the kid would do it. | ||
| And so that kid was with the dad and the mom all day working at the house and working on the house was how you did things. | ||
| Now today, dad leaves and the kids are sitting there with no dad. | ||
| And then dad comes home and the kids have no idea what dad does. | ||
| And then kids are spending most of their time and their authority figures are strangers. | ||
| So now you're getting the, I hate you dad or mom. | ||
| They're not going to listen to what you say because you are actually not their real parent. | ||
| You're a biological parent. | ||
| But you are not the person who has been the whole time teaching them how to live. | ||
| You've been an ancillary character there half the time, while the other half, it's been a group of strangers in a building who treat them like crap. | ||
| And that's what we've been for a hundred years. | ||
| My parents did a pretty cool thing where they unified. | ||
| I was never able to get one of them to do something the other one wouldn't allow. | ||
| They were like behind my back, a solid unit. | ||
| And so I kind of, my dad would work for two days at a time. | ||
| He's a fireman for 24 hours. | ||
| He'd go work at a hospital. | ||
| He's an orthopedic technician. | ||
| Then he'd come back on day three and he'd be with us for a day. | ||
| And so I didn't see him a lot, but because they were so unified, I felt like he was still present. | ||
| And we would still, my mom would take us to go see him, give him lunch every once in a while, but I felt like he was still present. | ||
| So when he was there, I still sensed his authority through her, and I could tell like he was the man in the house when he was around. | ||
| And the way it used to be was that kids lived basically the same lives as their grandparents. | ||
| Granddad woke up, and he tended the crops and the chickens, and he'd feed the pigs, and then he'd come in, and then he'd take care of, you know, house stuff. | ||
| He'd be building something, and the kids would watch him, and then when the kid was old enough, he'd be like, hey, hand me that hammer. | ||
| Here, let me show you what I'm doing. | ||
| Then the kid's a teenager, and he's like, you're responsible for the chickens now. | ||
| You're old enough. | ||
| And then the kid would become an adult and be like, Dad, I'm gonna get married. | ||
| I'm 18 years old. | ||
| And he's like, there's a... | ||
| Very fine. | ||
| Mary Sue down the street. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Mary Sue. | ||
| And the families would come together and there'd be a dowry. | ||
| Then they'd all come together and help build a house for the kid. | ||
| And then the kid would grow up doing literally what his dad did, what his granddad did. | ||
| And their lives were very similar and they were learning from each other. | ||
| And then we industrialized. | ||
| And then we were like, time to put kids in pseudo factories where the bell rings every shift change so they can be good little workers. | ||
| Take them from their parents and put them in the coal mines. | ||
| And then all of a sudden the kids are not learning from their parents anymore. | ||
| We totally separate family, and then it's no surprise, the level of degeneracy that we have now. | ||
| It's like you ask yourself, how we went thousands of years with zero degeneracy, and then in the span of three generations, we went as far as you could possibly go. | ||
| Because we cut kids off from their parents. | ||
| And we haven't seen the last 2,000, there might've been a lot of degen in the last 2,000 years of degeneracy, but a lot of it's on camera now, so it's undeniable. | ||
| It's documented. | ||
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And it's all about leading by example, right? | |
| When you take over, that's what happens. | ||
| I mean, like before it was completely different, you know, I come from Italy where it's a pretty conservative, you know, lifestyle and still we have a reality like that. | ||
| But I can see this shifting and getting closer and closer to what we see here now. | ||
| Who's the Italian Prime Minister? | ||
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It's Giorgia Meloni. | |
| Yeah, is she cool? | ||
| She seemed like she was actually like a nationalist. | ||
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Yeah, she's actually a big, big right-wing patriot. | |
| She used to emulate Donald Trump up to the election, but now she's kind of disappointing me for her policies toward immigration. | ||
| Yes, we are experiencing illegal immigration flaws unprecedented as before. | ||
| Italy is just kind of bending to European Union socialist dictatorship when it comes to certain policies. | ||
| So she has been voted on a very incredible platform. | ||
| I was one of the people that voted for her. | ||
| But I think some of her promises are not truly met at the moment, but definitely yes. | ||
| Even the most liberal of Italians is a conservative here, so it's a kind of difference looking into politics. | ||
| We're gonna go to Super Chats, so if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, and head over to TimCast.com if you'd like to watch the members-only uncensored show. | ||
| The show is only possible thanks to viewers like you who become members to support our work and make it all happen. | ||
| That'll be up at 10pm, it's gonna be fun, not so family-friendly. | ||
| The first comment I'm gonna read is from a member. | ||
| He said, Tim raised a cat, sorta like a kid. | ||
| Two cats! | ||
| Okay? | ||
| Get it right. | ||
| And I did right by Mr. Boca. | ||
| See, we isolated him from the other cats because they had bad behaviors. | ||
| And so that was the point. | ||
| He learned from me how to be a cat. | ||
| He was a good cat. | ||
| Yeah, I had to scratch things to teach him how to scratch. | ||
| And, uh, he was a good cat. | ||
| Everyone agrees. | ||
| I rubbed his back one time and he swiped at me, but he- His nail came out just close to my forehead, and I was like, it was a warning. | ||
| I respected Bucko. | ||
| I trained him. | ||
| I said, I said, Bocas, if Ian ever comes at you, you gotta give him the old one-two, man. | ||
| And then he was like, I was like, one-two, one-two. | ||
| And then, and then he learned. | ||
| If only he didn't pee everywhere. | ||
| I was like grabbing his back and like rubbing his back. | ||
| He didn't look angry. | ||
| Aw, dude, he would just, no matter what, he would just pee everywhere. | ||
| I don't get it. | ||
| Man, my parents, I tell my parents, it's so wild, but they would always teach me, like, don't get male cats. | ||
| Do not get a male cat. | ||
| They'll pee all over your house. | ||
| No, no, Seamus doesn't do that. | ||
| He doesn't? | ||
| Yeah, Seamus is pretty chill. | ||
| Okay, then it's just bucko. | ||
| He's a wild cat. | ||
| Seamus rolls around on the floor in the house, and then he goes and takes a dump in his box. | ||
| I love that cat, by the way. | ||
| Do you have cats? | ||
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We did. | |
| The cat we're talking about just died like a month ago. | ||
| It was really sad. | ||
| He was wasting away. | ||
| He had kidney problems. | ||
| He was born on the street, gutter cat, so he didn't have underdeveloped organs and stuff. | ||
| And then we got him stem cells. | ||
| We did a lot for the guy, and it was really great to have him around. | ||
| But he was like a wild cat inside. | ||
| His kidneys were too small. | ||
| You might be able to smell his remnants here in his urine. | ||
| His adult body was- the kidneys were doing twice the work for a cat, so he eventually just- But, uh, Seamus is chubby. | ||
| Yeah, Seamus is a great cat. | ||
| You should bring him on the show someday. | ||
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Is Seamus here? | |
| He's at the other house. | ||
| Seamus is, uh, sassy and chubby. | ||
| He's fat and sassy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We're talking about Seamus 1, not the cartoonist. | ||
| That's Seamus 2. | ||
| Who will be here in, like, two weeks. | ||
| Alright, here we go. | ||
| Clint Torres says, Howdy, people! | ||
| Howdy! | ||
| Shane H. Wilder says, Tim, I would love to hear you do a full review of Civil War, but I'd probably die of alcohol poisoning. | ||
| I guess what I would say the most disappointing thing is, I'd like to see a movie about a civil war, not a movie about journalists on an adventure. | ||
| But as someone who's done conflict reporting, there was a lot that I really liked about it. | ||
| There was one scene in the beginning where when the, what I would describe as the MAGA suicider blows up and kills a bunch of innocent people, because that's the movie, I guess. | ||
| Uh, Kirsten Dunst's character walks over to the corpses and starts taking pictures, and then the young journalist looks at her and takes a picture of her doing it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I was like, that was good. | ||
| Because too many of these journalists, like, they, it's, it's even in the movie they do this, and I'm just like, I know, I know who they consulted with. | ||
| These people are such awful. | ||
| There's, like, they're all hanging out at the hotel laughing and comparing their photos of corpses and everything, and they're like, wow, that's a really good one pointing to a guy bleeding to death, and, uh, they laugh about it. | ||
| And they enjoy doing it and they're all partying and drinking and they think they're special. | ||
| So there's like numerous instances where in the movie they act like they're not there as people during a shootout. | ||
| And there are some scenes where it like, you know, bites them in the ass and so that's good. | ||
| Uh, that they show that I think it's important people realize this. | ||
| The story I like to tell is when I was in, uh, Ferguson, and the protesters all left one day, and there were like 30 journalists in one big cluttered bunch in front of, uh, like some kind of APC. | ||
| And they're all taking pictures, just slowly walking backwards. | ||
| And the truck is slowly moving forward going, You must disperse! | ||
| Go home now! | ||
| And there's no protesters anywhere! | ||
| It's literally just journalists. | ||
| Journalists. | ||
| Taking pictures. | ||
| And then the APC goes, Journalists! | ||
| We are talking to you! | ||
| You must disperse! | ||
| But these people are... | ||
| They think they're special. | ||
| And so they're like, I'm gonna get that really cool picture. | ||
| I've seen journalists stage photos every single time I've been at a protest. | ||
| In Anaheim, there was one famous incident that went viral where they asked the protesters to pause and display the flag for them. | ||
| A journalist is like, hey, can you come down and hold that flag up for me? | ||
| Gets a picture. | ||
| And then they're like, you're asking the participants to pose for you? | ||
| And they're like, what do you mean? | ||
| Yeah, they do it all the time. | ||
| It's so fake. | ||
| I can't stand these people. | ||
| But anyway, that's why I enjoyed it. | ||
| There's like, in the beginning, the young reporter gets smacked in the face by a truncheon, and Kirsten Dunst is like, put this vest on. | ||
| And she's like, no, I'm not gonna, she's like, put it on! | ||
| And I'm like, oh, it's so obvious they had the stupidest mainstream journalist with no conflict experience telling these people what to do, okay? | ||
| Because like, an insurance company is gonna say, wear a vest. | ||
| A conflict reporter is going to say, depending on the situation, a vest is a target, so know your surroundings and decide when it's appropriate. | ||
| And so this idea that like, you're a young journalist in New York, you better wear your neon vest, I was like, oh please dude. | ||
| There was a famous story of like a journalist went to, I think it was like Iraq, and she wore a press helmet, body armor, and she got shot and killed. | ||
| And then another journalist went and she wore hijab and she walked around with no problems for years, filming and taking photos. | ||
| And like the story... And hostile environment courses will teach you this. | ||
| They'll tell you this. | ||
| They'll say, yeah, because they're looking for the journalists. | ||
| And if you're an insurgent group, you do not like journalists. | ||
| That's what got me in. | ||
| We are doing a little bit of spoilers. | ||
| I saw someone in the comments was like, oh my god, spoilers! | ||
| We spoiled the movie early on in the show. | ||
| I'm going to do it again right now. | ||
| Why were they driving around where it said press on the van? | ||
| It's like a target. | ||
| It's like just a bullet target. | ||
| You don't want press coming up on you if you're doing some insurgency work. | ||
| Well, they weren't insurgents. | ||
| And in this regard, I'd say they were correct to write press on their vehicle. | ||
| You think so? | ||
| You think it was more of a bulletproof vest than a target? | ||
| So, if you're driving through conflict territory, you're probably better off marking your vehicle press. | ||
| Or actually, what a lot of the journalists do because they're scumbags, they put red crosses on it. | ||
| Far-left activists do this all the time, and this is why these symbols become meaningless. | ||
| And that's why, often, it's like, don't do anything. | ||
| Because, you know, partly, you are correct, Ian, you'll see this at all these Antifa protests, they'll put red crosses on their arms, clearly Antifa, throwing bricks at cops, with masks on, and then when the cops start fighting back, the Antifa journalist starts filming, and then they go, I'm a medic! | ||
| Please, please! | ||
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And then they go, oh, the cops are attacking medics, oh! | |
| All fake. | ||
| That's why the cops like, you're not a journalist, you're not a medic, move. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But they fake it. | ||
| Yeah, dude. | ||
| It's like urban warfare, man. | ||
| Deception. | ||
| All right, Raymond G. Stanley Jr. | ||
| says, I saw Civil War, 7 out of 10. | ||
| A movie named that should be about a civil war. | ||
| I didn't get lost in the story or root for any of the characters. | ||
| No lost in escapism. | ||
| Trump's last quote was kind of funny. | ||
| It's funny that Raymond called him Trump. | ||
| It was very obviously Trump. | ||
| But Nick Offerman said that he's definitely not Trump. | ||
| Did he really say that? | ||
| Yeah, he said, I got the quote right here, he said, honestly, no, when you see the movie, it's unattached to anything in modern politics, not only in our country, but any country. | ||
| The opening of the movie is Nick Offerman, and it's him practicing his lines going, we're on the verge of the greatest victory. | ||
| Some say the greatest victory in military history. | ||
| And it's like, yeah, OK, like there's one president that says some said it was the greatest. | ||
| That's like, literally riding a trumpline. | ||
| And then the, uh, what is it, like, that Jesse Plemons scene from the trailer where he's like, what kind of American are you? | ||
| That was such a bait and switch. | ||
| You, like, the insinuation is like, are you left? | ||
| Are you right? | ||
| Which side are you on? | ||
| No, he goes, which kind of American are you? | ||
| North American? | ||
| Central? | ||
| South American? | ||
| And the guy goes, Florida. | ||
| He goes, oh, okay. | ||
| Like, oh, so he wasn't asking him, like, he's like, yeah, that's American, alright. | ||
| Yeah, anyway. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| Prent M says, Tim, was there a reason I was forcibly subjected to an ad when your stream started? | ||
| It's because YouTube runs ads on the show. | ||
| Non-partisan Kitty says, give it to me, the Bocas Beanie. | ||
| Oh yeah, maybe we can make Bocas Beanies. | ||
| Yes! | ||
| Seamus is the new kid. | ||
| Alright, Raymond G. Stanley Jr. | ||
| says, Tim, Team Western Front or Team U.S. | ||
| Government? | ||
| There's no heavy backstory, so we don't know for sure what's happening. | ||
| One of the remarks, like you learn some of the story when one of the journalists says, oh, you're going to ask the president questions. | ||
| And then he starts asking questions that he wants the guy to ask. | ||
| And one of them is, has your policy changed around using airstrikes on American citizens? | ||
| And then he's like, that's what I'm talking about. | ||
| And I'm like, like Barack Obama. | ||
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Ah, so the switch. | |
| But it's clearly Trump. | ||
| And so the insinuation, if I were to look at that film, the way everything breaks down, it is that Texas is on the verge of turning blue now. | ||
| A year or a few years from now, there is an Antifa massacre, which escalates tensions. | ||
| Donald Trump ends up winning a third term, or he wins second term. | ||
| And it is fair to say it's not Trump in the sense of the film. | ||
| Yeah, because it's 20 years in the future. | ||
| The film has to be 20 years in the future. | ||
| It has to be. | ||
| Because, she says, you got your start because when you were in college, you got a picture of the Antifa massacre. | ||
| So, considering the Antifa massacre has not occurred, and if this is presumably in a comparable, like, based on our timeline, then it would have to be at least a year from now, or this year later on, which means Kirsten Dunst, who is 41 years old, and presumably is 41 years old in the movie, was around the age of 20 to 24 at the time. | ||
| So it's just about 20 years in the future. | ||
| So which means it probably would not be Trump, but it would be next Trump or something. | ||
| It was someone who's acting like Trump. | ||
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It's legacy. | |
| It's right. | ||
| And so when I say it's Trump, you could reasonably say it is MAGA. | ||
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It's MAGA. | |
| It is the heir of MAGA, who after it gets elected, | ||
| there's an Antifa massacre. | ||
| They don't say if Antifa killed or was killed, they just call it the Antifa massacre. | ||
| And then the assumption is based on the narrative. | ||
| A conflict happens, the president uses airstrikes to stop the conflict, | ||
| which results in various factions forming and, you know. | ||
| Or it could be that, like, California secedes because he wins a third term, so then to try and seize control of the country, he airstrikes it, which results in other states seceding, or something like that. | ||
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Well, they know that Trump created the movement that is much bigger than him, and it will survive him. | |
| That's why they targeted MAGA people, too, you know? | ||
| With January 6th, they try to portray them as terrorists and then, you know, trying to delegitimize everything he represents and everyone who can potentially bring his legacy in the future. | ||
| And that's, to me, makes completely sense that they're targeting entire movements because he's the only president who created a movement, by the way. | ||
| Who else? | ||
| Juan Castle says, ban all raccoons now. | ||
| Tim, get Elon Musk on IRL. | ||
| Easier said than done. | ||
| But okay, I guess, you know, we'll work on it. | ||
| What I'm planning on doing is getting justice for Mr. Muttonchops. | ||
| You know, I'll tell you something weird. | ||
| This morning, when I rode my bike up to the studio, as I drive up to the front, I can see Mr. Muttonchops has jumped out already. | ||
| And I saw him standing next to the entrance, where the gate opens up and you can put him back in. | ||
| And I thought to myself, as soon as I saw it, I was thinking, like, he's gonna die. | ||
| I just like, that's exactly what hit my mind. | ||
| And I just ignored that feeling. | ||
| And then I went inside, and then as soon as I finished my morning show, I got the message, he's dead. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| His feathers are scattered all across the lawn. | ||
| We saw a fox out in the back. | ||
| And so we will appropriately seek justice in whatever form, but I'll leave it at that. | ||
| Justice, I think, would be to build a better city. | ||
| Neo-Chicken City with a gazebo, with a roof, because then the rain won't get the poop nasty. | ||
| Right. And we're, uh, we're, we're the new and improved. | ||
| Yeah. So this is a old chicken city was the small one and it's been, it was destroyed a long | ||
| time ago. And, uh, this is actually new chicken city and it's got the established 2020. | ||
| And so now what we're building is Neo-Chicken City. | ||
| Which is gonna be like Tokyo Futurism. | ||
| What about it? | ||
| And we're gonna give all the chickens neon sunglasses. | ||
| What about a Clux Capacitor? | ||
| That's a hilly... yeah. | ||
| That's what Thomas Massey built, this giant contraption that moves with solar power throughout the day and its chickens graze in new areas. | ||
| Alright, let's read some more. | ||
| The engaged few says they actually believe that West Virginia would remain loyal to the national government. | ||
| Clearly they've never looked at either West Virginia's history or populist political history. | ||
| I disagree with you, sir. | ||
| I believe that West Virginia absolutely would be a loyalist state. | ||
| Assuming Donald Trump was the president. | ||
| See, that's the point. | ||
| Take a look at that map. | ||
| And it's like, I get it. | ||
| New York's in there too. | ||
| But West Virginia certainly makes sense when you consider the president is Trump. | ||
| And then Texas seceding makes sense. | ||
| California and the Pacific Northwest going Maoist. | ||
| They explicitly say Maoist in the film. | ||
| They say the Portland Maoists when they're referring to that faction in the Northwest. | ||
| So it sounds like China aided the far left and they expanded through Minnesota and they seized all the territory. | ||
| That's what it seems like. | ||
| But I'd say this too, even if it was Joe Biden who was like the bad guy, you know, and it was the red states trying to secede, West Virginia would still be a loyalist state because of proximity to D.C. | ||
| The military capabilities in this area are insane. | ||
| West Virginia ain't going nowhere. | ||
| Yeah, and it's a point that you would need to seize and take. | ||
| Like, Harper's Ferry is such a defensive bastion with the mountains and the rivers and a transportation network and stuff. | ||
| An authentic tin can says, Tim, look up the Hearts of Iron IV mod, Kaiser Reaches U.S. | ||
| Civil War, and tell me you don't see the similarities? | ||
| I don't know what that is. | ||
| Do you want to look that up? | ||
| Hearts of Iron IV is a Paradox game, Grand Strategy game, World War II game. | ||
| I haven't, what's the mod? | ||
| It's some, like an American mod? | ||
| Devin Porter says California and Texas make perfect sense. | ||
| That's where they're storing most of the criminal aliens they've been shipping into the U.S. | ||
| I agree, too. | ||
| The narrative is that within 20 years, Texas goes blue. | ||
| And then, that's it. | ||
| The Texas and California governments team up. | ||
| But I like their original where they each kind of split off on their own, because I think Texas would just go independent. | ||
| They don't care about American politics. | ||
| Yes, but not in 20 years. | ||
| The idea is that there's an argument Texas is becoming more red because the exodus from California, but it was fairly close before and some people are saying it's becoming a purple state. | ||
| The idea being that if all of these criminal aliens come in, California and Texas are both going to be blue. | ||
| And then with 51% of the population, they will install a super majority of Democrats in the state. | ||
| And the president even refers to the subjugated people of Texas in the film. | ||
| So it's possible that Texas is split in half. | ||
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There is no wall on this border. | |
| Metaphorically and physically. | ||
| Evie Man says, Tim, did you see David Hogg get absolutely wrecked by Lily Tang Williams on the subject of gun control? | ||
| Dragon lady for the win. I was reading a bit about Spike and David Hogg's debate and | ||
| My understanding is that David Hogg won the debate? | ||
| I'd like to see it Is it available? | ||
| It's about 80 minutes long. | ||
| I didn't catch all of it. | ||
| I just caught some excerpts. | ||
| I mean, it's like I said earlier, Spike has a bunch of graphs that the audience can't see. | ||
| He's arguing data. | ||
| And at one point, the moderator is just like, OK. | ||
| So after Spike throws out all this data, it's a little overwhelming. | ||
| The moderator says, OK, so David, why do we have this problem in this country? | ||
| He goes, because it's the guns. | ||
| It's the guns and the guns. | ||
| Because we have guns. | ||
| And then people in the audience agreed. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So, I don't know much about it other than that someone said that the audience ended up siding with David Hogg. | ||
| Well, I think Spike and David would be a good duo on Culture War, if David would like to come in and do a neutral panel and let them talk about it. | ||
| I think the problem with the right, and probably the reason David agreed to debate Spike, is that David is better at manipulating people than Spike is, and so you end up with a guy showing charts and graphs and being like, the data clearly shows that if we do this, and then David Hogg goes, and then they shot a baby. | ||
| And the audience goes, oh, a baby. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Because of guns. | ||
| And they go, whoa. | ||
| It's like, did you know you can buy a gun? | ||
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No. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| And guns kill babies. | ||
| It's like a family guy joke where Lois is running for office. | ||
| She goes, nine. | ||
| Eleven. | ||
| And they go, oh! | ||
| And start screaming and cheering. | ||
| Dude, like. | ||
| Well, the right, you know, Ben Shapiro says facts don't care about your feelings. | ||
| And then everyone on the right starts hooting and hollering and running around the room waving their arms around. | ||
| And feelings don't care about your facts. | ||
| And feelings are easier to communicate to because facts are hard to understand. | ||
| So they always say people will not remember what you what you told them or the what is it what is it what is saying? | ||
| People will remember what you say they'll remember how you made them feel. | ||
| So when David Hogg makes you feel sad and scared, You'll end up checking off the box being like, yeah, he was right. | ||
| I was scared. | ||
| You saw something. | ||
| Was it that pedantic or did it actually, was he making great points? | ||
| I, I don't want to speak out of turn or anything. | ||
| I mean, like I said, I only saw a few excerpts because I wanted to cover it, but I'm gonna watch like 15 minutes out of 80 minutes, so I know there's a lot that I missed there. | ||
| But no, I mean, the few excerpts that I saw basically just relied on the same structure. | ||
| Data, graphs that perhaps the audience couldn't see, and Spike even acknowledged that. | ||
| He was just like, I know you guys can't see this. | ||
| And then David Hogg would just resort to, it's the guns. | ||
| Guns are the problem. | ||
| We have to have major gun regulation in this country. | ||
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Yeah, guns kills baby, what about abortions? | |
| I mean, they don't have the same feeling for that? | ||
| Nope. | ||
| They don't, because you're taking away from them. | ||
| So the issue with the left is they're thinking, I want mine. | ||
| And you're like, guns could kill you. | ||
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They go, oh! | |
| And they go, and then we'll take away your abortion. | ||
| They go, but then I have to be responsible? | ||
| What you need to say is, that may be David, but did you know that when you buy a gun, you get free ice cream? | ||
| And they go, what is that truth? | ||
| That's right. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| And they'll go, wow, I think guns are great. | ||
| Did you know that because of guns, we have pizza? | ||
| Really? | ||
| That's right. | ||
| See, the original pizza was invented when a guy was trying to make a gun, but accidentally used wheat instead of iron, and then rolled it out, put tomato sauce and cheese on it, and it was pizza. | ||
| And they'll go, wow, that's right. | ||
| So you have to respect it. | ||
| I bet David, because I think he's going to be a prolific voice for gun rights in the future, in whatever direction, but like, that's why I want to, yeah, and I want to talk to him now, early on in his career, because if, you know, reasonable, we need reason in this country, and being able to have reasonable conversations with people you disagree with is the important part of that. | ||
| I just feel like, David, is it because of guns that a guy pushed another guy in front of a train in New York? | ||
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No. | |
| Is it because of guns that a guy punched a woman in the face in New York? | ||
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No. | |
| Is it because of guns that a guy scalded four people, four women and several other people in New York? | ||
| Did you guys hear that one? | ||
| A guy was taking boiling water and throwing it in people's faces. | ||
| Yes, it was in March. | ||
| I didn't even know it happened. | ||
| It's like so much crime in New York. | ||
| But guns are the problem. | ||
| It's like, I get that guns are like when there is a mass shooting incident, but like That's like, you know, you live in this world where you think it's the biggest problem in the world when peanuts kill more people. | ||
| Like, I don't think we're gonna ban peanuts anytime soon. | ||
| And 3D-printed guns, if people can craft them in their homes. | ||
| Like, trying to ban the information is insane. | ||
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Oh, I know! | |
| Did Spike bring that up? | ||
| He may have, in the excerpts that I didn't see. | ||
| If he's like, it's the guns, guns are the problem, I'd be like, probably, but they're 3D printed now, so you can't do anything about it, so good luck regulating it. | ||
| It doesn't matter if you're right or wrong. | ||
| Debate's over. | ||
| Cat's out of the bag. | ||
| Guns can be 3D printed. | ||
| You can straight up make a fully 3D printed gun. | ||
| Fully plastic. | ||
| And well beyond the capabilities of Liberator, which was 10 plus years ago. | ||
| The videos they're putting out with this stuff is crazy, and now we're at the point where you have this 0% receiver, you get a metal block, and you put in an at-home CNC machine and it carves it out for you. | ||
| Like, you can't do anything about it! | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| And also, it's just like, David, you know, his problem is that he lives in 1940, because you know what he should be talking about? | ||
| Directed energy weapons. | ||
| For real, man. | ||
| Ballistics of all kinds. | ||
| We should go deep on weaponry. | ||
| Railguns! | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Alright, we'll grab a couple more of these here. | ||
| Superchats. | ||
| X10man says, the lefty writers screwed up when they named Alaska Polar Bear Cold State. | ||
| They should have called it Polar Bear's Dead Due to Global Warming State. | ||
| There's a scene where they breach the White House and there's a Secret Service agent who's unarmed and she's like, I'm here to negotiate. | ||
| And then she was like, can you guarantee safe passage for the President? | ||
| And they're like, no. | ||
| And then she's like, we want to go to neutral territory like Alaska. | ||
| And then the female special forces of the West, who's like doing this mission, just shoots and kills the negotiator. | ||
| It's like, okay, I guess. | ||
| And then they just storm in and yeah, it's pretty crazy. | ||
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| Dragon Wolf says, hey Tim, I'm a long time Fallout fan. | ||
| With how they snubbed New Vegas in the show, Bethesda may have permanently fractured the community. | ||
| I am pissed. | ||
| I only watched the first episode. | ||
| We could do a whole episode on Fallout at some point. | ||
| I gotta watch it. | ||
| Oh, I was ranting to Ian how they screwed up the first episode so bad. | ||
| I wanna be in it. | ||
| I wanna be a scientist. | ||
| Help me get to the producer if you know people that work for the company. | ||
| I want to make that show the best show on earth. | ||
| I want to help them make an awesome, lush universe and play the role of a scientist from Atomics, General Atomics, from East Texas, who's like, hangs out and he's got an energy weapon, dude. | ||
| And he hangs out with the crew, that'd be so badass. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| Last one. | ||
| Rabid Wino says, so options are let the government raise our kids or let the parents raise their kids. | ||
| The government already rules us if we allow them to even be a choice. | ||
| No. | ||
| Alright, everybody, if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, head over to TimCast.com, click join us, because the members-only show is coming up in just a few minutes, and it's gonna get not family-friendly. | ||
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Yeah, you're not gonna... This is gonna be gross. | |
| So, you can follow the show at TimCastIRL, you can follow me personally at TimCast. | ||
| Simona, do you want to shout anything out? | ||
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Well, follow me on my ex-account, Simona Mangiante, and Instagram, the same but with two underscores. | |
| So follow my content and great to be on the show team. | ||
| Thank you so much for all of you and we have an incredible singer as well. | ||
| Oh yeah, we were playing... | ||
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Welcome to your life! | |
| That's crazy. | ||
| I was playing it on the guitar. | ||
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I don't follow. | |
| Just thought to get everybody off the show. | ||
| But I love the song. | ||
| You should keep going. | ||
| It's so good. | ||
| Chris Carr 17 on X. Be sure to check out SCNR, Scanner News, for all of your news junkie needs. | ||
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Everybody wants to... Did you mute me, Serge? | |
| Or did my audio just cut out? | ||
| No, I'm sorry. | ||
| You're paranoid. | ||
| That's a great song. | ||
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All right. | |
| Thank you guys. | ||
| Thank you for coming. | ||
| Thank you for being here. | ||
| Thanks for putting up with everything. | ||
| And Simone, it was really good to meet you, man. | ||
| That was an awesome show. | ||
| Chris, it's wonderful to see you again, dude. | ||
| Always a pleasure. | ||
| Hope I get to see you on the weekly as a regular thing. | ||
| Really good to see you. | ||
| Tim, thanks for inviting me to the movie today. | ||
| That was fun. | ||
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That was wild. | |
| Serge? | ||
| It was a work thing, you know? | ||
| I was like, you gotta watch it, we gotta watch it. | ||
| For the culture. | ||
| Yeah, for the culture indeed. | ||
| It was an interesting film. | ||
| Thanks for taking me, Tim. | ||
| See you guys later. | ||
| We'll see you all over at TimCast.com. |
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