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The Department of Homeland Security today raided the home of P. Diddy, resulting in
tim pool
a Twitter trend, the Diddler.
Batman's greatest arch nemesis, the Diddler, of course.
And I love this, I love Axe.
It's a great website.
It's awful, it's brilliant, all at the same time.
But yes, the Diddler.
So the allegations are that P. Diddy was involved in some serious sex trafficking.
And so we'll get into that story.
There's a rumor going around right now.
Someone's posted a flight log of a private jet leaving Los Angeles and heading to Cape Verde, which they claim has no extradition treaty.
I don't know that's true.
It's got over, I believe it's got like a million hits on Twitter.
It's going viral.
So we'll address that.
And I want to make sure we address the grain of salt.
We don't know for sure if this is Diddy's jet or what's going on.
And other nudes, other nudes, other nudes.
Donald Trump has some pretty good news coming for him.
His bond was reduced to $100 and I believe it was $175 million.
He's got 10 extra days to come up with the money, but that doesn't really matter now.
Because DWAC, or D-WAC as Fox News likes to call it, has just shot up 35%, making Trump now in the top 500 wealthiest people in the world, adding about $4 billion to his net worth.
So, oh boy!
And then of course, I'm in the news actually, because a couple days ago, I had this passive comment that I didn't think was that big of a deal.
There was an article about this woman who was on Sopranos, how she said she makes more money on OnlyFans than she did when she was on Sopranos, and I said, women choosing to be hookers instead of having jobs is an arc I didn't expect feminism to take.
I did not.
I didn't mean it as an insult.
I thought that was a plainly, like, kind of bland statement.
Like, wow, here we go.
Women are choosing to be hookers instead.
Well, apparently she took it as an insult.
A bunch of other women are insulted by the term hooker or whatever, which I didn't realize was offensive.
I just thought it was a descriptive term of what they were doing.
I just, whatever I guess, but now they're writing about me, and I'll take it though.
Daily Mail says I am one of the most successful conservative commentators, and I said calling me a conservative is an insult to conservatives, so we'll talk about that stuff too.
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and a whole lot more is Tom Finn.
tom fitton
Good to be with you all again.
Thanks for having me.
tim pool
Absolutely.
Who are you, sir?
tom fitton
I am president of Judicial Watch, America's largest and most effective government watchdog group.
unidentified
Right on.
tim pool
A lot of great legal victories, a lot of great legal insights, but especially with what's going on with Trump's bond hearing and stuff, I think you'll have some good legal insights for us, so thanks for hanging out.
unidentified
It should be fun.
You're welcome.
tom fitton
Thanks for having me.
tim pool
Hannah Clare is here.
hannah claire brimelow
Hey, I'm Hannah Clare Brimlow.
I'm a writer for SCNR.com.
The first time you were here, I asked you, what case are you working on?
You said, I don't know, we're suing everybody.
I always felt like that was a good description.
That's kind of true.
But I'm happy to be here tonight.
Phil's here too.
phil labonte
Hello, everybody!
My name is Phil Labonte.
I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains.
I'm a very failed musician, anti-communist, and a counter-revolutionary.
Hey, what's up, Serge?
unidentified
Yo, Phil.
How you doing, bro?
phil labonte
Good.
tom fitton
Good.
I am Serge.com.
unidentified
Go vote, people.
Don't forget.
tom fitton
It's not the victories on the bag.
unidentified
Go vote.
I just want to get that message out there as much as possible.
tom fitton
Anyways.
tim pool
And register your friends and family.
Like, get them to register.
Treated seriously, and there's a lot of efforts into legal ballot harvesting.
I recommend everyone take a look at it.
But let's jump into the big news today.
I can't believe we are opening a show talking about P. Diddy!
SCNR.com reports, Feds raid three homes owned by Sean Diddy Combs in connection with a sex trafficking case.
Three homes.
Producer has been accused of running a criminal racketeering enterprise that included murder, sex trafficking, illegal firearms, and drug trafficking.
Mansions in L.A., Miami, and New York were stormed by heavily armed agents with the U.S.
Department of Homeland Security on March 25th.
Homeland Security investigations confirmed the raids to TMZ and said the agency executed law enforcement actions as part of an ongoing investigation with assistance from HSI Los Angeles, HSI Miami, and our local law enforcement partners.
We will provide further information as it becomes available.
TMZ reported the case is being handled out of the Southern District of New York and is likely tied to sex trafficking allegations against Combs in multiple lawsuits in recent months.
Now, I'd love to claim, S-D-N-Y, it must be political bias, but P. Diddy, of course, is anti-Trump, so must not be it.
The music mogul has been fighting multiple legal battles, including from a woman who claims that Combs gang raped her at his New York recording studio after plying her with drugs and alcohol when she was only 17.
That case filed last December was the fourth assault lawsuit against Combs.
So, what I heard...
Is that what they would do is, they'd invite artists to studios to record or whatever, slip them something in their drink, once they got delirious and loopy, they would then film lurid acts with these people, male or female, and then once they came to, say, we're gonna ruin your life by posting this video unless you do exactly what we tell you from now on.
I don't know if that's true, those are just the rumors that I heard on the internet.
And as you know, if it's on the internet, it must be true.
phil labonte
The only thing that I would say about that particular rumor is that is a reapplication of the rumors about Epstein.
tim pool
Exactly.
phil labonte
It's the same thing as powerful people using sex as a blackmail tool.
So take it for what it's worth.
But you know, I mean, if multiple women are making accusations and stuff, you at least have to look into it.
And then when he jumps on a jet and is like, I'm getting off the CODIS!
tim pool
I don't know how true this is, but it's got almost a million views, it's got thousands of retweets and quote-teats, and people are referencing it a lot.
This is just some, I don't know who this user is, they've got a couple thousand followers.
It's, uh, sure, they say it's Izdat, I don't know what their username is.
Private jet owned by Sean PDD Combs has left the US.
Combs residents were raided by DHS.
We know that.
The flight path of the plane appears to be headed towards Cape Verde.
Cape Verde has no extradition treaty with the U.S.
So, at the time of posting this, the plane was still in the air.
And as of right now, they've shared the tracking information.
There is a jet.
I don't know, it's just a publicly available website showing a jet landing in what appears to be St.
John's.
So, not Cape Verde, Antigua.
Is that how you say it?
Antigua?
phil labonte
Yeah, Antigua.
tim pool
Antigua.
Do they have an extradition treaty with the U.S.?
phil labonte
I know nothing.
unidentified
I don't know.
phil labonte
I don't know about it.
tim pool
No idea.
And I don't even know that that's actually his jet.
So, you know, no idea exactly what this means, but a lot of people are saying that he was basically doing what Epstein was doing.
phil labonte
If that is his jet, there are a lot of recording studios in the Caribbean and stuff like that.
hannah claire brimelow
Maybe he just wants to record an album, says Phil!
phil labonte
No, no, the point that I'm making is there would be places in the Caribbean that would be friendly to artists because of There's different types of royalties that you can get when you record outside of the United States.
There's a whole line of income that's available to artists if they record some stuff outside of the United States.
You can go and look the information up on Google.
So it would make sense for them to have connections in places like that and be like, all right, I'm going to go.
We're gonna go and record or whatever, so just because there's a plane going there that had alleged ties to P. Diddy doesn't mean it is actually him trying to escape the continental U.S.
It just looks funny, you know?
tim pool
Real quick, just as an aside, the Diddler is trending.
He did that to himself.
tom fitton
I was pleasantly surprised to learn that the Homeland Security The Department actually does investigate international sex trafficking.
We've only had the worst sex trafficking operation in the history of humanity going on, enabled by President Biden, and of course the focus is on this Hollywood musical figure.
I tell you, I'm skeptical about everything the feds do.
I'm sure there's something to be investigated.
unidentified
I must agree!
tom fitton
But the deployment of resources here seems to be out of the ordinary considering the crisis on the border with sex trafficking in numbers that would shock the conscience of any American citizen.
phil labonte
There are more federal agents and more guns that went to pick up P. Diddy at his house than are at many of the individual border locations where people go to seek asylum.
hannah claire brimelow
But how long until the Biden administration is like, look, you can't say we don't take human trafficking and sex crime seriously.
We do actually use our forces to take down the bad guys.
What point do they use this as a sacrilege?
phil labonte
I hate how much sense that makes.
hannah claire brimelow
It's awful, right?
I mean, I think you're totally right.
I mean, if we were serious about these types of crimes, we would immediately address the border.
But instead, there's sort of this, we'll get a flashy news story going and turn the attention away.
I mean, this feels like when the Biden administration is like, hey, did you guys hear about those UFOs that we're going to tell you about now?
Every time Hunter Biden gets in trouble.
unidentified
Yeah.
tom fitton
I mean, there's a thousand women sex trafficked into Los Angeles, right?
And you're in Homeland Security.
hannah claire brimelow
That's too hard.
We don't want to do that.
phil labonte
P. Diddy!
Well, the thing is, what's going to give you more bang for your buck?
Picking up P. Diddy?
It's going to be all over the news.
You're going to look like heroes, blah, blah, blah.
Picking up nameless, faceless, trafficked people?
tom fitton
I mean... Embarrasses the administration?
Yeah, it does.
Between Senator Menendez, even Hunter Biden, I have a little sympathy for.
I don't trust any of the prosecutions.
Not that they're innocent or guilty or whatever.
The point is that the feds at this level don't make honest decisions when it comes to pursuing claims against people like P. Diddy, to Hunter Biden, to Senator Menendez.
And obviously Trump is the big kahuna in that regard.
But you can't trust the DOJ and Homeland Security.
They're so compromised when it comes to high-level investigations like this.
And I'm not saying Diddy did anything right or wrong, it's just, don't trust his enemies here.
tim pool
The big question right now everyone's asking is, did Diddy do it?
Or didn't Diddy do it?
We don't know what Diddy did do or what Diddy didn't do.
I stole that from South Park!
That's a South Park joke, everybody knows it's a South Park joke, but I had to say it!
Did Diddy do it?
hannah claire brimelow
But who names themselves Diddy?
Like, where did this come from?
I'm just saying, maybe this has been an open secret for a long time.
He was, in fact, so open that he could make a cute nickname out of it.
phil labonte
It was Puff Daddy.
And then it was P. Diddy.
tim pool
No, no, no, no.
Sean Puffy Combs.
phil labonte
Sean Puffy Combs, yeah.
He should have stuck with Sean Puffy Combs.
That was the most, like, adult that also gave a throwback to when he was younger and where he came from.
It should have been Sean Puffy Combs.
tim pool
Like, Dwayne The Rock Johnson.
phil labonte
Right?
tim pool
You know, there was a period where, in his movie career, he just had The Rock.
And then they were like, Dwayne, quote, The Rock.
Now it's just Dwayne Johnson.
hannah claire brimelow
It's not as cool.
That's lame.
unidentified
The Rock.
hannah claire brimelow
That one's a downgrade, in my opinion.
phil labonte
Look, he's currently playing in...
Wrestling in the WWE, so that means he's on Raw and stuff, and he's a heel now, and he's awesome.
I love the- I think he's great.
hannah claire brimelow
He started on WWE, I thought.
phil labonte
Yeah, yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
So he's just, like, circling back.
phil labonte
Well, yeah, he goes- he'll do stuff in movies, and he's so busy, when he gets to go back to WWE, it's a big deal, and he doesn't stay for a long time.
He just does one, you know, a couple little bits, one storyline, and he's off to do another thing.
But when he's there, he's still awesome in the ring, he's still great, he still delivers lines like it's nobody's business, he's still the greatest, most electrifying man in sports entertainment, he's great.
So.
unidentified
Yes.
hannah claire brimelow
So do you think...
The man formerly known as Puff D, or what was he, Puff Daddy?
phil labonte
P. Diddy, Puff Daddy Combs.
hannah claire brimelow
I'm not cool enough to know this.
He's the Diddler now.
Do you think the Diddler will make an appearance on WWE?
This is the real question.
phil labonte
No.
How do you bounce back?
Not because, specifically not because Vince McMahon is currently under investigation or in a case regarding sexual assault and stuff.
He's got his own stuff.
The last thing he's gonna do is be like, yo, let's get this guy to come on over.
hannah claire brimelow
No, he's not doing that at all.
Antigua does have extradition.
tom fitton
So it's not clear he's been detained anywhere.
tim pool
No, I don't even know that jet's actually his.
tom fitton
Yeah.
tim pool
Everybody's just retweeting it because they want to believe it, but unless we can get hard verification on that tail number being owned by him, I just say, like, with these big breaking stories, you gotta take it with a grain of salt.
tom fitton
I mean, he could be, you know, they could be a raid that wasn't designed to have him arrested just to gather evidence, so who knows, right?
phil labonte
He's still coming home.
tim pool
Well, I mean, I gotta agree with you, though, Tom.
I don't trust the feds.
When we have Dr. Phil saying that our tax dollars are funding sex trafficking, that these children are coming across the border from cartels, and the feds aren't doing anything about that.
In fact, quite the opposite, they're facilitating it.
The only thing I can assume is this raid is about the competition and not about actually trying to stop him because of a sworn moral duty.
hannah claire brimelow
They're like, hey, this is our thing.
unidentified
Get out of here, Sean.
This is our thing!
hannah claire brimelow
That's our business and we will not allow you to participate.
So us, federal government, will shut you down.
tim pool
Maybe?
I don't think so, but like, you know.
tom fitton
12 million coming across the border, and this is the focus of Homeland Security.
phil labonte
I, like I said earlier, I think that this is, I mean, obviously if this isn't a real, you know, this is... No, it's still there.
Uh-oh.
tim pool
Wait, no, it's gone, it's gone.
phil labonte
Obviously, if they have the evidence or they're collecting evidence, they have enough evidence to have a warrant and whatever and stuff, but there's no reason to trust the federal government anymore.
Everybody that is your average person or anyone that's gonna have any dealings with the federal government, they're always going to be thinking, is there something that I said or did that has brought this on me?
Or are they, or if I, obviously you're going to, you're going to want to have a lawyer before you speak to the police or whatever, the, to the law.
But, you know, like.
tom fitton
Never, never talk to, if you're ever under investigation.
phil labonte
Never, you have to have a lawyer.
tom fitton
Certainly not to the federal government.
Never, never do it without the advice of a lawyer.
hannah claire brimelow
It's the best thing Diddy could do, the Diddler could do is, is say the government's trying to frame me and curry support with people who already are scheduled.
tim pool
He's got to go full MAGA.
hannah claire brimelow
You know what I mean?
There are a lot of people who would be like, these are terrible crimes, I do want to take this seriously, but the federal government is sketchy, and so it does seem like we should give you the benefit of the doubt.
tom fitton
You kind of raised some interesting questions, right?
So he's going to, I would presume, consult a lawyer or two?
And the lawyers are going to have a kind of, you know, good lawyers are going to have a conservative approach to how to deal with the federal government.
But in a case like this, do you throw those rules out the window and go with the Trump approach saying, you know, they're setting me up, this is all just politics or whatever.
Whatever argument you use, it's relatively non-legal, but just raises issues about the investigation itself.
phil labonte
He's just got to show up at the next Trump rally, get on stage with Trump.
tom fitton
Oh, before you know it.
phil labonte
And just throw his support behind Trump and know that if he does that, if Trump gets elected, Trump will go ahead and just railroad the whole investigation.
Let him go.
He's fine.
That's his way out.
tim pool
He's recording a real quick track called MAGA 2024.
That's why he flew to Antigua.
He's like, yeah, we were put on this new song and then the feds raided us.
I can't imagine what this is all about.
hannah claire brimelow
Featuring who's a Canadian rapper, Tom McDonald.
He'll make an appearance on it and be like, yeah, yeah.
I also like Trump.
tim pool
No, in all seriousness though, if Diddy did try and come out as MAGA, it wouldn't work.
Trump supporters would be like, okay, Epstein Jr., like, nah, not interested.
Like, we're not buying it.
There's like video clips of him being like, Trump is bad or something.
tom fitton
I don't know what his political politics are.
Speaking of Epstein Jr., so you had these stories.
Come out about Nickelodeon.
So they had a half a dozen shows that were sexualizing children for what, a decade?
And no one did anything about it over there?
Well, I think the issue... How did we all miss that?
I guess adults weren't watching.
unidentified
I think people did.
hannah claire brimelow
I think people talked about this for a long time.
tim pool
I don't think the shows themselves had overt things.
It was behind the scenes.
I could be wrong.
hannah claire brimelow
That's what I know.
tom fitton
Well, a few of the scenes were...
really outrageous even on air and that was uh that was kind of clear in some of the documentary i saw i know that uh drake bell is that his name drake bell yeah he made accusations he said he was actually abused by one of the guys yeah significantly abused well some of these young girls uh who was the uh who's the singer who used to be on there's a bunch of them well anyway selena gomez they had some who selena gomez no it was someone else um kind of like in that age group who was involved in sexualized content promoting
these programs.
tim pool
Oh, Ariana Grande?
tom fitton
Maybe it was her. And I guess there had been a video of that out there.
tim pool
It was Ariana Grande.
tom fitton
Really outrageous. And where were the adults, and this is a corporation,
you know, where's the responsibility?
The Justice Department, or Los Angeles County officials and law enforcement, should be investigating that corporation for criminal activity based on what I saw.
tim pool
I heard this, I don't know if it's true, is it true that Nick Kel Odio means, I don't care for God?
Did you hear that?
That's what everyone started posting after the, it says Latin.
Nickelodeo is Latin for I don't care for God or something like that.
I don't know, Google it.
tom fitton
Nickelodeon is an old-timey word, isn't it?
tim pool
Yeah, it was a jukebox.
tom fitton
You put a nickel in the Nickelodeon.
tim pool
They're claiming now it's like satanic or something, so I'm like, well, I don't know.
Nickel what?
N-I-C-K-E-L-O-D-E-O, I think.
Nickelodeo.
tom fitton
So they've got evidence of sexualization of children, the abuse of children on these corporate-controlled sets, and our friends online get obsessed with Satanism in the name, as if that's the issue.
hannah claire brimelow
The truth is terrible, and they distract from the truth Yeah, well, to your point, Jeanette McCurdy, who's an actress who was on one of these shows, that was produced by Dan Schneider, who's got all these, like, people are starting to say he was very inappropriate, especially with young female actresses.
She wrote this book that went viral because it's called I'm Glad My Mom Is Dead.
It talks about her growing up in, you know, in Hollywood and what that experience was like.
But she alluded to the experiences she had on set.
She didn't come out, from what I remember about it, she didn't come out and say, these are the names, these are who you should go after.
But the book was so popular, it was, you know, because the title is so flashy, everyone heard about it.
It wasn't a secret.
I mean, I think Amanda Bynes, who, you know, has very publicly gone through some mental health struggles, also made similar accusations.
I mean, at a certain point, people have known for a long time, and why we decided now was the time to take them seriously, I don't know.
tom fitton
Yeah, but Hannah, it's one thing to have those allegations out there.
It's another thing to pull the thread and say, well, where were these people?
They were out there for a long time.
hannah claire brimelow
Why did no one pull the thread is my question.
And why now?
Why now does it feel okay to do this?
Is it because we as a culture have changed to say that we really don't trust Hollywood and we want to see the stuff come out?
Like, is Hollywood losing influence in a way that makes them more vulnerable?
unidentified
I don't know.
phil labonte
I don't know either.
I was trying to find the Latin.
hannah claire brimelow
You're brushing up on your Latin over there?
phil labonte
It doesn't have anything that is definitive of it.
tom fitton
Nickelodeon has nothing to do with Satanism.
tim pool
Oh, it's Nick Kalo Deo.
phil labonte
Dan, or something like that, but... That's what it was.
tim pool
Yeah, if you type into Google Translate, Nick Kalo Deo, it says, I don't care about God.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
tim pool
It's good news for Donald Trump!
Congratulations, a little fun there.
unidentified
Well, you know, yeah, that's where we're at.
tim pool
Let's jump to the next big story.
It's good news for Donald Trump.
Trump's net worth hit $6.5 billion, making him one of the world's 500 richest people.
tom fitton
Oh, wow.
tim pool
You know, we've talked on this show about how we're so tuned into the news
that if we bought stock based on the things we were reading, we'd probably get rich.
And then we never do.
And no matter how many times we did a bunch of segments like, wow, look at that!
Dweck's stock is so valuable, Trump's gonna be worth $3 billion.
And then we just forget about it five minutes later.
And then today it jumps 35%, making Trump worth $6.5 billion.
And I was like, why don't I just buy the stocks and the news stories that I'm reading every day?
So that's what happened.
tom fitton
Well, that's standard investment advice.
What items do you use at your home all the time?
Buy stocks in it because you can bet a lot of other people are doing it too.
tim pool
I'm just saying I should.
tom fitton
Are you on True Social?
tim pool
I mean, I'm on it.
I don't use it though.
tom fitton
I like it.
I'm on it.
I'm not just saying I like it because it's a Trump site and all that.
I think it's a good little site.
You can say what you want within reason and it's good.
tim pool
Here's the crazy thing about this though.
They're saying that most of the jump in price of DWAC is retail investors.
It's regular people putting in a couple bucks here and there, right?
tom fitton
Oh, yeah.
The AMC sort of crowd or something else like that?
tim pool
Well, just Trump supporters.
tom fitton
Yeah.
tim pool
So now, imagine this scenario where right before announcing they're running for president, an individual launches a company, prepares a SPAC, a Special Acquisition Corporation, preparing, timing this perfectly with the year of their election, and then Tell all their supporters, like, oh yeah, we're really excited for this acquisition.
Then all of these people's supporters buy stock, spiking the price, giving Trump a massive net worth.
He can then sell cash out and use that money for his campaign.
It's an interesting way of indirectly fundraising for a campaign.
tom fitton
Well, the fact that his name caused this spike, it highlights how significant his legal argument was with the Angoran fight.
about the value of his brand, which was discounted by the Democrat politician judge who tried to destroy his company.
This shows his brand obviously is worth something, and it may be elevated enormously because of his run for the presidency, but I suspect he'd be a billionaire or have a few extra billion no matter what he was doing with this program.
tim pool
They're saying on Tuesday, the ticker will show DJT for the, yeah, for the search.
hannah claire brimelow
What a fun election year move.
tim pool
But that's what I'm saying.
unidentified
So this means all of Trump's supporters right now are going to buy this stuff.
tim pool
They don't need to donate to Trump because the purchase of a single share drives the value up.
So it's an interestingly, I don't know.
tom fitton
It's a way to help them indirectly.
tim pool
Indirectly, but it's not just that.
If someone donated to Trump 50 bucks, he would have that 50 bucks.
But if someone buys the share, and millions of people are buying shares, it's driving the price higher and higher and higher.
tom fitton
It may have a bigger impact.
tim pool
A much bigger impact.
Trump could then offload a smaller portion of shares for a massive amount of money relative to what people actually bought shares for.
And here's where it gets crazy.
I don't know if he could do this or how it would work, But Trump simply says, we're really excited.
DJT is the new stock that's going to skyrocket.
We're thinking it's going to go a lot of money.
He's going to get non-supporters seeing a 35% increase in one day.
People who don't even like Trump, don't care for Trump, are going to be like, I'm going to make money if I buy this.
I might as well buy it.
Then they are effectively lending their power to Trump, who can then, after six months, so just before the election, offload a bunch, I believe six months is the standard for these special acquisition deals.
tom fitton
He can get a waiver, though, from that, right?
To offload the stocks before then.
tim pool
And none of his fans would actually complain about it.
They'd say, please, yes, absolutely, Trump, do that.
phil labonte
And also, I mean, we were talking about this earlier, but he could take out a loan against the stocks too, because the values there, stock and stuff like that.
tom fitton
And that's what Musk does, right?
He kind of uses his loan, his stock value as collateral for all this funding.
phil labonte
So he could very easily come up with the, well, I don't know about very easily, but I assume that he could very easily come up with A loan to cover what he needs to cover in this and to fund the rest of his campaign if he wanted to.
I don't know if it's legal or not.
I'm not saying that he should.
I could be totally wrong about it.
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So I don't know.
tom fitton
I think there is no limit on self-funding of a campaign.
phil labonte
So, I mean, theoretically he could.
He could just be like, all right, I'll take out a loan against this stock and then... When did retail investment become legal?
tim pool
That was under Obama, right?
Was it the Jobs Act or something?
tom fitton
Oh, I think it was legal before then.
It's just a matter of...
tim pool
No, I don't think so.
You had to be an accredited investor.
There were limits on how you would do it.
You had to be an accredited investor with an income of at least $250,000.
No, no, I could be wrong.
That's not for stocks, right?
Obviously I'm wrong on that one.
That's for direct investment into a startup or something like that.
tom fitton
Yeah, there may be different rules for like IPOs and things like that.
tim pool
I think this is just the ubiquity of apps making it very easy and accessible for the average person.
Now we're entering this new...
phil labonte
It might be that, um, there was something passed that allowed, um, because what Robinhood and stuff, you're not actually purchasing the stock.
They own the stock and you're purchasing.
That's why you can purchase a small piece of it.
So I think what you're thinking of is there was an act that made that legal.
So go ahead.
Sorry.
tim pool
No, it was something like that.
I know that maybe you need specific brokerage accounts that operated like bank accounts.
Now it's like a really simple app where you put money in and yeah, you don't actually own the stock or something like this, but now where we are, Think about the fundraising potential for future presidential campaigns where you don't even need... You can tell somebody before you even run, be like, you know, you didn't get a donate to a campaign.
Buy stock in their company on the public market using one of these apps.
And then later on, they could sell against that to anyone who wants it.
And you get to keep that piece of the company.
You keep your value.
tom fitton
It might encourage more businessmen to enter politics.
One of the reasons he's successful is because he has a demonstrated record of success in business that people value, and you're seeing that here.
So other businessmen may say, hmm, there may be something here for me to pursue as well.
phil labonte
Part of me is surprised that they haven't already come up with some kind of cryptocurrency to do that.
tim pool
They did.
There already was a DJT currency, I'm pretty sure.
phil labonte
No, no, no.
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FJB.
tim pool
FJB.
tom fitton
Oh, well, like a Donald Trump crypto, you mean?
phil labonte
Well, not particularly a Donald Trump, because the concept he's talking about, you could purchase the cryptocurrency, which is funding the candidates.
Candidacy is the thought process.
And then if the candidate wins, in theory, the cryptocurrency would become worth more.
I don't know what other function they would have.
But what you're talking about with the Donald Trump stuff is he was doing NFTs and he was calling them trading cards.
But he was calling them trading cards so that way boomers would understand what they were, because a boomer has no idea.
hannah claire brimelow
He's always been good at marketing.
phil labonte
He sold them out.
unidentified
This guy could sell OrangeCoin or MagaCoin or whatever he makes.
He sold them out.
phil labonte
He sold all of them.
And because they're NFTs, they're non-fungible, so each one is individually different from the others because of the picture in it and blah blah blah.
It was pretty smart marketing.
tim pool
Imagine this.
In the 2028 election, every Democrat or Republican candidate is the majority shareholder in a company that is about to be merged into a special purpose acquisition corporation.
And the platform they get from the national campaign cycle, they tell their supporters, we're really excited for the launch of our company, so, you know, take a look.
On your own, as like, let's say you were a mayor of a small town.
You ain't gonna sell any shares in your stupid little company.
You're on a presidential election cycle in a primary or whatever.
It's going to boost you substantially.
And then you don't care if you win or lose.
You are going to get access to a base that you would never have gotten before to buy shares in your company indirectly.
You don't got to tell them directly to do it.
And that cranks the price of your shares up and then you cash out once the campaign's over.
tom fitton
Well, I guarantee you, if it's not already in the news stories tonight, the Biden administration, because I know they were sniffing around this whole deal, We'll launch an investigation into Trump World for being successful.
Letitia James or people of her political, you know, her allies politically in State Attorney General's offices will also launch investigations.
So this is just going to be another magnet for the regime to focus on in its effort to turn the country into a one-party state.
tim pool
I think, I wonder if the strategy then for Trump would be to maximize these vectors, forcing the deep state and people of ill repute, like Letitia James, to continually go after Trump's businesses to the point where it's an absurdity.
Just literally whatever he does, they make some ridiculous claim about, overload the system.
tom fitton
Yeah, I was thinking earlier today, I was thinking, you know, if there's a new Democrat administration, whether it be this next term or two terms from now, I'm thinking Twitter's done.
I'm thinking Musk is going to be thrown out of Twitter somehow by the government.
And what happened up against Trump in New York, I think that's a sign, a frightening sign, as to what will happen to anyone who crosses the regime.
And they were willing to seize his company, they still could, destroy his ability to run for office.
All based on a fraud charge, literally a charge that's based on a fraudulent interpretation or application of the law.
phil labonte
That's only a state government too, that's not even a federal government.
tom fitton
And the feds have invested, I'm not blowing, you know, I'm not saying Elon Musk deserves the same sort of protection that, or protection that no one else gets, but What he's doing is so damaging to the left's narratives and their plans for our country.
He's going to have to go from their perspective.
And I think Twitter is going to end under the next Democrat administration.
phil labonte
I think that you're right.
I think that the effect of an Elon Musk tweet cannot be overstated.
I mean, any tweet that he tweets, it's, you know, teens, 20s, 30 million people, you know, see everything that he does.
His reach is extremely broad.
Yeah, it is dramatic.
Brutally critical of the regime.
And the criticism are almost always have significant substance.
It's not frivolous.
It's not just, oh, silly stuff.
He's talking about the border, which is probably the thing that people are most upset with the Biden administration about.
tom fitton
And its impact on elections, which is frightening to the left.
You have to be exposed?
phil labonte
Yes, exactly.
The way that he articulated the consequences of illegal immigration for the Electoral College, for the Congress itself, for the makeup of Congress.
I don't know that the average person is aware of it, but it's certainly not at the top of their mind or the front of their mind.
But when they hear Elon Musk talk about it or Elon Musk tweeted about it, they're like, Oh yeah, that really does, doesn't it?
That's how they figure out how Congress gets apportioned by the Census.
And the Census doesn't ask if you're a citizen or not, and the people that are... It's like Donald Trump wanted to make that a question.
hannah claire brimelow
Everyone's like, that horrible racist wanting to know who's here legally as a citizen in the country.
phil labonte
Yeah, and the thing is, the argument that you get, and I have said this previously here on IRL, but the argument you get is, The people that are illegal don't want to talk to people in government, they don't want to tell the truth and stuff, but the people that are doing the census are absolutely motivated to make sure that the people there know that they're not going to come back with the cops.
Because the people that are doing the census want to know how many people are there, the real number, because the more people, the more funding the city's going to get.
Or whatever locale that's doing the actual census.
So the idea that the incentives are not all lined up for the people to tell them the number of people, especially without the fact that they're not going to ask if they're citizens, that's ridiculous to say the incentives aren't there.
tim pool
Well, let's jump to the story from NBC News.
We love NBC News.
New York appeals court reduces Trump's bond in his civil fraud case to $175 million, a victory for the former president.
They also gave him an additional 10 days to post the bond.
I'm going to pause there to make sure we don't lose sight of what's happening.
It is a small victory in this battle and it is a major loss.
Trump shouldn't have to pay any bond.
He shouldn't have to give any money.
And what the government here is pulling off is a big ask.
They slam Trump with the most absurd amount of money in a fine in history.
These bonds don't exist.
Then when everyone's shocked, they go, okay, okay, fine, how about $175 million?
And now we're supposed to go, oh, okay, great, yes, you get him, Trump's winning.
No, it should be $0.
The charges are ridiculous.
It was a summary judgment.
The New York Times lied about this.
In their story about the bond, they wrote, in a months-long trial, the judge said this or that.
No, no, no, no, see, they're conflating.
What was actually going on?
The judge ruled summarily that Trump committed fraud.
That's right.
tom fitton
Verdict first, evidence never.
tim pool
Yep, and then they did a different hearing on whether, they said that it was fraud, Trump did commit fraud, but did he alter documents?
Now we'll have a trial to make that determination and how much money he has to pay.
So, in that trial, by giving the summary judgment, Trump was not allowed to say he did not commit fraud, and his lenders were not allowed to say that Trump did not commit fraud.
tom fitton
Yeah, and Gorin had, as you say, a summary decision, and this is an attempt by the political courts in New York.
They are political, and you're typically a judge there because you've been selected or elected as a Democrat, for the most part.
And this is an attempt to kind of pull back a little bit because of the public outrage You're right.
It is not exactly the sort of victory we would want in light of the abuse of Trump, but it is a major slap at Angoran and Letitia James, who were willing to seize a man's private property based on this 454 billion, 440, whatever the number was, a half a billion dollars.
And the court just said, in addition to that, you're not seizing anything.
tim pool
But Trump has, the New York Times estimates $350 million cash on hand personally, and then I think his presidential campaign is what, between like around $50 million or something, $40 something?
tom fitton
Right.
tim pool
To take $175 million out of- Off the table, I know, I know.
Right, so I don't want to fall into that trap where we're like, yes!
No, no, no.
They intentionally threw out a number they knew would get struck down and reduced to a massive number that would be deemed accessible.
tom fitton
And what's the basis for this number?
tim pool
Exactly.
tom fitton
What is it?
Does it sound better than 464 million?
Is that the legal standard?
They're making it up as they go along.
They're trying to keep Trump off the ballot, out of the election.
And this isn't even about clean elections.
The left has now decided they don't want elections.
And when you try to jail your number one candidate or remove his name from the ballot, that's something Putin would recognize, the dictator in China would recognize.
And it's going on up in New York City.
The Bragg trial, the crazy trial over the Stormy Daniels stuff, that's gonna be in three weeks!
hannah claire brimelow
God, that's actually gonna... Well, Letitia James' office, after this, you know, victory, so to speak, came out, her office released a statement saying, well, you know, Trump is still being held accountable for their crimes.
You know, she's not even that upset about it, which should tell you that this is really not a victory for Trump.
tom fitton
And the process is a punishment, too.
phil labonte
Yeah, the only way this is a victory is if there was some kind of slapdown of Letitia James so badly And possibly charges against her for fraudulently prosecuting.
I think that's the only way where you could be like, that's a victory.
Because if there isn't consequences for this kind of corruption, then it's only saying, hey, the corruption is actually acceptable.
The level of corruption, maybe we went a little bit overboard, but it's still fine that we have a summary judgment and we tried to take the property of an American citizen who has clearly not been found guilty There should be.
hannah claire brimelow
conventional means. What's the likelihood that Letitia James would ever face even an ethics inquiry?
tim pool
Zero. Why are no conservatives, no Republicans doing anything comparable? There should be. Well,
tom fitton
certainly the Bidens could be subject to state criminal investigations under the new rules.
And what really frustrates me is the Republican-controlled House had a chance to
give a haircut to people like Letitia James or Bragg, defund the Smith investigation,
target funding for Fulton County, and say, if you're violating the civil rights of Donald
Trump and other Americans for political purposes and for election interference,
you're not going to do it with any federal money directly or indirectly,
and we're going to curtail that.
They didn't care.
They just fully fund the corruption that's going on right now.
I'm tired of it.
I'm tired of it.
And I appreciate there are some good conservatives on the Hill, but I think they're often just oblivious to the damage this is doing to our republic.
tim pool
Yes.
I think we need state-level Republicans in Governor's office, AGs, attorneys general, or prosecutors to just go after Biden or any of these other individuals in a comparable way.
I can only see the strategy here being let them make Trump the victim.
And the Republicans don't want to come off as like what the Democrats are and give a tit for tat.
tom fitton
The next honest president should direct the Justice Department to criminally investigate this whole group of prosecutors for abusing their power to violate the civil rights and interfere with our elections under the color of law.
tim pool
Yes.
phil labonte
Agreed!
That's the only way to get the message to other prosecutors that are politically motivated that this isn't going to be tolerated.
We have to have a government that doesn't tolerate this kind of stuff.
Now, whether or not this is actually going to happen, I don't believe that it's going to happen.
We want to see a return to normalcy in the United States the way that you hear people talk about all the time.
Well, the very first thing is the justice system has to work properly.
That means when you commit a crime, you get prosecuted.
If you've committed a violent crime, they take you off the streets.
If you've committed no crime, then you don't get prosecuted.
That is not too much to expect from a justice department or from a justice system.
And if you don't get that from your justice system, then you need to revamp it.
But all ours needs is to get the ideologues out of positions of authority, Take away their power to prosecute people for political reasons and take away their ability to create conditions in which they can fabricate charges to put people under.
And until that happens, we're not going to trust our justice system and a low-trust society is a bad society.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, it's really bad.
I mean, this is, I think you're right, the next honest president should act.
On the other hand, in between then, how much damage is done by people not doing anything to sort of slow this process down.
I think, I mean, Letitia James definitely is the lead on this, but there are a lot of AGs who are ideologically driven.
She just happens to control sort of the most influential left-leaning state in this sense.
tom fitton
Well, I think we've got a rising communist revolution going on in the United States.
The Democrats were talking about communists, no, but they are certainly taking their approach.
Where the rule of law doesn't apply to my political opponents, we can casually try to jail them without consequence.
They're communists!
Well, the point being, if it walks like a duck... But that's the sort of thing we're facing, right?
And so they try to threaten Supreme Court justices, they're destroying our sovereignty through the border invasion.
phil labonte
Antifa's violence, their riots and stuff, that is unquestionably a left-leaning militia.
That is out to terrorize the population.
tom fitton
They're planning to overturn the election if Trump wins, not because there's fraud, not because there was a problem in the way the elections were administered, but because they don't think Trump should be president.
So they want to overturn the election, they're planning that, and under the DOJ new rules that's a conspiracy to commit a crime and engage in sedition.
What else do we need to say that we've got a political movement in this country that opposes America?
It's not unconstitutional.
It's this anti-constitutional approach.
It's very dangerous.
And I tell you, Republicans in the House who kind of took, you know, basically ignored and have been AWOL on these issues, the base is very upset with them.
And I don't know what's going to happen in November.
It wouldn't surprise me if they lost completely even if Trump won.
tim pool
I want to give a shout out to Netflix.
Jack Posobiec brought this up last week.
Three body problem.
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Have you seen any of that?
tom fitton
It's worth watching just for the first scene to see what we're dealing with.
tim pool
I'll tell you this.
I give the show a C+.
C+.
I've watched every episode.
Very slow.
Too much interpersonal drama.
Opening scene.
tom fitton
Too much dialogue.
tim pool
Well, there's not enough story.
tom fitton
I know, I'm just joking.
tim pool
Like, you know, I don't want to spoil any of the show, but I'll give you a general example when it's like, there's a secret agent, and he's been captured by the villain, and you're like, oh man, what's gonna happen next?
And then it cuts to a guy and a woman being like, how was your day?
I don't know.
I stubbed my toe, and I'm like, ugh.
Next, next, next.
But, the opening scene.
tom fitton
Well, you're not spoiling it.
Talk about what the scene is.
tim pool
Yeah, the opening scene is the Chinese culture revolution, where they've got a physics professor in a dunce cap, and they're beating him, telling him to reject science as they all scream and wave the red books.
He's gotta see it.
The wife comes out, and she's like, thank you, youth!
Through the revolution, I've realized that science is all wrong!
And they're cheering for her.
phil labonte
For context for people that haven't seen it, they are literally questioning him for teaching Einstein's theory of relativity.
And I've said this before on the podcast and this drives it home.
The communists have a total different understanding and worldview.
And this isn't just like the way they look at things.
Things that you're used to seeing every day.
It is a basic fundamental difference.
They don't believe that you can be in contact with reality the same way that we can.
They believe that if you speak certain words, it's like they believe magic.
They believe that words have power to the point where they can speak things into existence, which is represented by the demand that you call a trans woman a woman.
Because to them, the words have power.
They don't believe in overarching narratives because they want to be able to select a narrative that gives them a position of power in whatever context it is.
So science and things that are fundamental and unchanging, things like the speed of light and the ideas in relativity and stuff, those kind of things are rejected by A western construct, right?
Yeah, exactly.
They're western constructs.
That's why syncoism was a thing.
tom fitton
And we mock it, right?
Too often we mock it.
They don't see it as funny.
It's perfectly consistent within their worldview, and that's why they're immune to our mocking and criticism, largely.
I'm about to say we don't mock it and criticize it, but they're not flummoxed by it at all.
tim pool
I want to give a minor spoiler alert warning.
In the next 30 seconds, there will be a minor spoiler for the show, Three Body Problem, because I need to, I want to make a point about the writing, which is really, really good.
So, let me say it one more time.
There's a viral clip going around.
It's all over X because, I mean, this is Netflix.
tom fitton
Right.
tim pool
That's showing, it's like their hot new show.
Right when you log into Netflix, there's this big banner.
It's like Three Body Problem, which is a reference to like three gravitational bodies and being able to, not being able to track them.
It's a math problem, I guess.
So, right when you start the show, I'm like getting ready for bed last week after Jack Pasoek mentioned it, and he mentioned that they depicted the Culture Revolution.
They actually did it, which is crazy for a company to do.
And so, I'm getting ready for bed, and normally it's like, you know, turn the light off, turn the TV on, watch for like half an hour or whatever, go to the bathroom.
I just stood there, right in the middle of my room, staring at the TV, and my girlfriend's like, what are you doing?
And I was like, Watch!
Holy!
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It was like instantly, I was like, wow!
tim pool
It's terrifying.
Now, I'll give you a quick spoiler.
For those that don't want to hear it, it's not a spoiler of the whole show.
General premise point, because if you read a synopsis of the show, this is probably spoiled for you already anyway.
So it's a woman who watches the very opening scene.
They kill her father for being a physicist.
They beat him to death because he refuses to accept the revolution.
tom fitton
Right.
tim pool
She becomes a political dissident.
And then the story, okay, this is like, they tell you this right away, but it is a spoiler.
They're working on communicating with extraterrestrials and she makes contact and wants to be conquered.
So the general premise of the show is brilliant.
A woman who was a victim of the culture revolution and these communist revolutionaries who believe we're gonna destroy the old world and kill everybody because we're morally right, she immediately adopts the exact same ideology.
That's the premise.
It's such a great writing.
tom fitton
And it shows you it's still Netflix film in the end because they're sympathetic to that approach.
Oh, she saw all these terrible things that are going on in the world in China.
She reads Rachel Carson's Silent Spring, which was some left-wing polemic that said the environment was going to collapse within three years, and it was written in 1968, so obviously that wasn't true.
And so she uses that as an excuse to push for the extermination of humanity.
tim pool
So, yeah.
I don't want to get too much into the spoilers, though.
tom fitton
After two episodes, you know what's going to happen.
tim pool
Right, right.
We're describing basically the first episode.
They lay it all out for you.
But I think first two episodes.
There's a lot of plot holes.
tom fitton
Yeah, I haven't watched the past two episodes.
tim pool
A lot of plot holes.
But the political writing I do like, but a lot of plot holes.
Let's jump to this next story.
Daily Mail reports Governor Ron DeSantis signs bill banning children under the age of 14 from using social media.
It would require 14 and 15 year olds to obtain parental consent to have accounts.
I agree.
What say you, panel?
phil labonte
They're 14 years old.
Their parents make the decisions.
I'm not like... I think it's fine.
hannah claire brimelow
I think it's weird that the internet became this place where, because they decided 12 was the age you could make your own profile, therefore parents shouldn't be involved when kids made a profile at 12.
Like, that seems bizarre to me.
I don't know where the age came from.
Except for maybe I do.
Right.
phil labonte
Except for maybe I do!
unidentified
Except for maybe!
hannah claire brimelow
We all know what's going on here.
tim pool
Think about this.
We had Goatsy.
We had Lemon Party.
We had Meat Spin.
And anybody who's been on the internet for a long time knows exactly what those horrible things are.
unidentified
And even knowing those things... I think that passed to all of us.
Oh yeah.
tim pool
Knowing these things, these people who made these companies were like, we think 13 is a good age for the internet.
Yeah, okay.
hannah claire brimelow
We've talked about it amongst ourselves and based on our judgment we think that we should have 13 year olds online.
unidentified
18!
hannah claire brimelow
I think that like the I think parents should be empowered to be involved in their children's lives and I think the internet is no different right?
In some ways I think the internet got marketed to so many people as just this this place where there's information and silly videos and that's obviously not true.
tom fitton
So they shouldn't have accounts on It seems to me on X, they should not have accounts on Facebook.
I don't think there's any way a minor can interact in a way that can be policed, even with parental permission.
So I, you know, I just don't see how that would work.
hannah claire brimelow
Didn't you need a .edu email to make a Facebook way back in the day?
Because it was like specifically for... I could be wrong on this.
tim pool
Maybe, maybe you're right.
hannah claire brimelow
Like when it first started, because it was about networking among college students, at least then you're over 18.
tim pool
Can we address the fact that Twitter's minimum age is 13 and they allow porn?
tom fitton
Yep.
Yep.
hannah claire brimelow
But why is it still like this?
I thought Elon Musk took over!
phil labonte
There should not be... So the fact that the state of Florida has passed legislation, you know, for Florida, that's going to be probably minimally effective at doing anything.
It really comes down to the parents, honestly.
These kind of things.
This is like...
You know, what time should your kids go to bed?
Questions.
This is making sure that your kids, this is making sure your kids are taking care of their own hygiene kind of things, or you're teaching them how to take care of their own hygiene kind of things.
This is basic parent stuff.
And if you're not, like, doing this, then you're dropping the ball as a parent.
I'm sorry if it upsets you, but that's the truth.
There are certain things that you are responsible for by being a parent, and being a parent means you're responsible for your kid.
And that means what your kid's doing.
And just because your kid can have a conversation with you doesn't mean your kid is an adult.
And you don't want to be your kid's friend.
You want to be your kid's parent.
So grow up, millennials.
You guys are awful.
tom fitton
So I'm wondering how easy it would be for a child to bypass these requirements in order to get an account, and I think that's one of the challenges.
phil labonte
I mean, of course!
hannah claire brimelow
Well, and different states have proposed different ways around this.
Like, some of them you need to express written content from the parents.
phil labonte
Look, everybody knows that, like, the people that have kids that are working at these social media companies, they have flip phones.
They all have flip phones.
hannah claire brimelow
Their kids aren't allowed on these platforms.
tim pool
And kids would find their dad's magazines.
phil labonte
Yep.
tim pool
You know what I mean?
But you don't open the door for them.
There's like a certain age where maybe you talk to your kids.
tom fitton
You don't leave them in the kid's room.
tim pool
You don't hand them to your kid.
Here you go, kid.
I'll get you a new one every month.
No, no, no.
They go into the 7-Eleven and I don't know if they still do this.
I don't think 7-Eleven has the magazine rack anymore, do they?
phil labonte
I don't think it has.
No, I don't.
tim pool
But they used to have the dirty magazines in the rack, but they'd be in black plastic so you couldn't see them, you'd just see the top or whatever.
Yet we don't let kids go in and just buy these things.
How have we opened the door on social media for all this stuff?
hannah claire brimelow
Again, I think it's because when the internet came out, people just did not understand what was being opened up, and it seemed like it was a necessity before people really understood the implications of having access to, you know, everything the internet has, both good and evil, and also allowing the internet into your home, which is like inviting strangers in your home.
tom fitton
Well, you know, it's Satan.
That's why we have it on the internet.
You know, I don't use this term lightly.
These are demonic forces trying to destroy our children, and let's be blunt about it.
There's nothing intellectual about it.
It is a dark, evil movement within our country trying to target sexual activity at our kids, trying to justify adult interaction with children of a sexual nature.
Absolutely demonic.
phil labonte
It's all justifiable in queer theory.
This is a topic that keeps coming up because everything horrible is essentially in queer theory.
The theory goes That the idea of childhood innocence or the idea of innocence at all must be thrown out false Because it's a it's a construct There is no innocence and you can see it when you read queer theory papers by there's one by little miss hot mess She says that even that's her name.
I didn't make it up.
I'm not lying here She says that kids are kinky or or you know, they say that kids are kinky Gail I think it's Gail Rubin wrote Thinking Sex, and that is full of absolute disgusting things.
She talks about intergenerational relationships.
Foucault, who is a Marxist, post-modernist Marxist, he was working to get the French government to roll back the age of consent, and at the time it was 15.
Yeah, it's disgusting, and it goes back to- He was like, not enough!
Yeah, and even Herbert Marcuse, who I've talked about a bunch of times, he's a disgusting leftist slimeball that was basically writing papers justifying anything the left wants to do.
He wrote this book called Eros and Civilization, which is full of just It's just deviance and it's something that the left does
because the left wants to break down rules about purity because it doesn't believe in the rules
that anyone makes.
tim pool
Well I wonder if the if the I'm pretty sure under an actual communist regime
unidentified
you deviate, you degenerate, they gulag you and beat you to death.
tim pool
The issue is breaking the family destroys the working order which allows them to take over.
phil labonte
Yes.
tom fitton
So they want no competitor to their cadres.
phil labonte
Yes.
tom fitton
The theory... The family, education, religion...
phil labonte
So the stuff that you guys are talking about, that is the method of allowing the communists to take power.
That's how they break down the family, they break down the structures that are basically the pillars of your society.
They break those down and that allows them access to power.
And then they'll go ahead and start trying to literally tear your society apart because they don't want to, specifically the queer theorists, because they don't believe in rules.
They literally just say, we don't, any rules, are to be cast off as some kind of oppression.
tim pool
So they say that the law puts the onus on social media companies to enforce the ban,
and failure to do so could result in damages of anywhere between $10,000 and $50,000.
I say good.
tom fitton
I say good too.
So do parents have a right to sue if there's a... they don't fail?
Or who enforces it?
Is it civilly enforced by parents?
phil labonte
I don't know.
tim pool
Seems like it's enforced by the state.
tom fitton
Yep.
tim pool
A fine per infraction.
And I hope Twitter is... I should say X is the first to say, yeah, okay, we shouldn't have 15 year olds 14- I don't even know if I agree with the 14 to 15 year olds, to be honest.
Unless Elon Musk- It's really, really simple.
Anybody- Any adult content posted on the site should be auto-blurred unless you're logged in and confirmed to be the right age.
And I mean, send in your ID for verification.
tom fitton
What good comes from having anyone under the age of 18 on these sites?
tim pool
Nothing!
And the funny joke is, on the internet, no one knows you're 14.
Now the original joke is like, no one knows you're a golden retriever or something like this, but how many people...
Are right now, 40-year-old men, 50-year-old men, 35-year-old men and women, and they're arguing with a 13-year-old.
And they're posting something like, the progressive tax system is an oppressive machine and we should switch to a flat tax.
And they get a response, you're an idiot, you have no idea what you're talking about.
They start debating, and it's some 12-year-old being like...
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
It happens all the time!
tom fitton
Being trolled.
tim pool
Yup!
4Joel has no idea!
tom fitton
So there's a funny- But smart enough to troll you, though.
tim pool
There's a funny meme, and it was someone saying, oh, my politics?
It's the opposite of whoever I'm trolling right now.
phil labonte
It's all the rules being torn away from you.
to the internet. There's something that I just there was a point that I
wanted to make that I've just lost right off as soon as I was about to talk so
hannah claire brimelow
sorry. It's all the rules being torn away from you. I mean I think the weirdest
thing about social media has always been that it desires access to your children
it desires access to minors and it's like inviting a stranger in your home.
I mean, think of Snapchat.
Snapchat is incredibly popular among teenagers.
What is Snapchat?
It's a messaging app where you talk to someone and it disappears!
Like, I'm sorry!
That's crazy!
Can you imagine if you were, like, talking to a 45-year-old guy and they were like, Phil, can I just on my own privately send disappearing messages to your, I don't know, 12-year-old nephew?
You'd be like, get out of here, you creep!
phil labonte
So the point that I wanted to make is like me and Tom remember when like when the internet was first you know became a thing that you could actually get at access to at your home.
Everyone knew you didn't give any information out to anyone on the internet.
You didn't talk you like everything was secret and you don't let anyone find out where you live and you're not nowadays people like kids can't keep their butthole off the internet.
hannah claire brimelow
But again, I think of all of, like, influencer culture, which relies on people oversharing for attention and engagement in the pseudo-relationship they have with people.
I mean, this was the number one choice of career among Gen Z, right?
They all want to be influencers because they think it'll be great.
And, you know, live your dreams, I guess, but also this is maybe not something you should start doing until you're 18.
tim pool
Let's talk about moral degeneracy.
We have this story from the Daily Mail.
Drea de Mateo blasts conservative commentator Tim Pool after he called the Soprano star a hooker for joining OnlyFans, quote, stop taking shots at struggling single moms.
I object to this.
I'm not a conservative.
hannah claire brimelow
You should sue them for defamation.
tim pool
That's an insult to conservatives.
But they do say Tim Pool is one of the biggest conservative influencers in the U.S.
Okay, well... It's like, do I get mad about it?
I'm not a conservative.
tom fitton
Influencer is a weird word, isn't it?
tim pool
It is, right?
phil labonte
It is.
tim pool
So, let me tell you guys a story.
I did a segment on it earlier, but... Actually, I'll just show you the tweet because they have it here.
I tweeted... Alright, alright.
There's a barstool sports story.
Drea DeMatteo made more in one month on OnlyFans than on The Sopranos.
I responded, women deciding to be hookers instead of having jobs is an arc I didn't expect feminism to take.
Now to be completely honest, I thought that was actually kind of a benign tweet.
I did not actually think I was tweeting anything largely inflammatory, though it did end up getting 4.5 million views.
I guess I don't know the weight of my own tweets sometimes.
My point was not to insult Drea in any way.
I don't care what she does.
And I didn't realize hooker was an insult.
It's quite literally what they're doing on OnlyFans.
I'm like, you are taking requests from men to post sexually suggestive content in exchange for money.
I'm like, just because we've changed the medium by which women can sell sex from the brothel to now over the phone, doesn't mean you're not a sex worker.
And this is the funny thing.
Everyone agrees they're sex workers, and I'm like, so they're hookers.
I'm from Chicago, we just said hooker.
hannah claire brimelow
You have a very inclusive view of the word hooker, you know.
tim pool
I just thought it was a general term for a woman who engaged in sexual activity for money.
But yo!
They got real mad.
They got real mad.
And so now you've got like, there's like a million followers on Instagram, and she's attacking me, and Drea made this like, big long-winded post, I wonder if it's like- We watched it before the show.
Here we go, look at this.
tom fitton
All we could was laugh at the length of the post.
It's like, she says that... Don't even read it.
tim pool
She says, I'm fake news, I'm holier than thou, I'm talking about things that don't matter to this country, I'm a shill, you know, and she's like, I hope you never end up in a place like me, you know, where you have no choice but to become a hooker or whatever.
hannah claire brimelow
No choice!
No choices!
tim pool
And I'm just like...
tom fitton
Wait, so she's recognizing she's a hooker?
tim pool
She didn't say hooker, I'm saying hooker.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
tim pool
She said, end up a place where you choose to do this.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
And I'm just like, she says, Tim Fool, not only did I not know the great Tim Pool was an expert on feminism and hookers, yes, I didn't realize, like, I'm gonna go back to what I said, because I think this is an extremely important point.
I believe if you go back to the 70s, late 60s, and tell all these women, the end goal of women in the workplace will be to get them to all quit and all become sex workers.
They'd be like, what?
No!
It's disgusting.
But there's story after story of, I was a nurse, but I make more money doing OnlyFans.
I was a star on The Sopranos, I make more money doing OnlyFans.
And I'm like, I didn't expect feminism to switch to just sell your bodies online to men for money.
And we've talked about it.
This is the end of women in the workplace.
For a few years, until men start using AI to make fake women and do it better than women, which is already happening.
So that's where we're at now.
I don't know.
I think.
hannah claire brimelow
Look, they wanted the right to work and this is what they did with it.
It's awful.
I hate it here.
phil labonte
It is straight up like this is 100% women doing what women want.
And then.
unidentified
I don't want to do that.
phil labonte
I'm not saying you individuals doing what individual women doing what individual women want.
And then they don't like the way that someone else characterizes it or sees it or works.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, and she's acting like this is her only option.
phil labonte
I know.
hannah claire brimelow
That's what bothers me.
She's like, I have no choices.
No choices.
I couldn't, you know, have gotten my real estate licensing a job.
I couldn't have, you know, worked a medium-term job, whatever.
Like, I couldn't have worked in fast food.
This was the only thing available to me.
That's just a lie!
phil labonte
That's not true!
The whole point is breaking through the facade that is held up, though.
This is Lizzo's beautiful, you remind me of Lizzo, and someone gets upset about that meme.
That's exactly what's going on here.
It's sex work is real work.
And this person's a sex worker, and then you call them the wrong name.
tim pool
How dare you call me what I'm doing!
phil labonte
And then you're using the wrong... So then it's just about the fact that it is a term that is looked at as a derogatory term.
tom fitton
That's all it is.
Imagine if the Homeland Security Agency investigated OnlyFans the way they do P. Diddy.
tim pool
Oh, right.
Because there was one woman on OnlyFans who, the day she turned 18, at midnight, had a whole bunch of posts appear, and everyone went, That means those posts were made when she was not 18, and that was the point.
So, I'll read some of this.
She says, here's another mean-spirited, judgment-holier-than-thou mouthpiece who didn't even bother to research his subject before firing off his disdain.
He sounds exactly like the full-blown lefties he lambasts.
Okay, here's what I think.
I polled Twitter.
Uh, I said, do you think it's fair to call women who sell sexually suggestive photos on OnlyFans hookers?
84.3% said yes, with 34,865 votes.
I also asked a few other questions.
Uh, so, apparently when Drea announced her OnlyFans, she did it with a nude photo.
According to numerous news reports, she posts nude photos, and typically, I guess, it's like sexually suggestive, but fully clothed.
And that's, I'm like, I, I, I, look.
You're just, all we're arguing now is degrees of being a hooker, okay?
You're a hooker, and everyone's arguing, yeah, yeah, yeah, but if you only are selling the, like, if men are requesting photos and you send them to them, you're not engaging in the physical activity, so you are hooking, but is it enough to call, okay, now we're just arguing degrees.
What's the point of this?
I think the outrage here Among so many of these women's shows, similar to what Phil's saying, it's the hypocrisy.
It's where they say things like, Dylan Mulvaney is beautiful.
And you go, you're so beautiful, you look just like Dylan Mulvaney.
And then they cry.
And we've seen a bunch of posts where a guy was like, I made my aunt cry because she's like this liberal and I said she'll take a transplant.
She got really upset by it.
Like, they claim to be like, they're beautiful, but if you call them that, they get angry.
They claim to be like, I had to do this because, you know, and I'll go on podcasts and I'll tell everyone I'm doing it, and then I say something semi-tepid like, I didn't realize feminism was gonna result in women choosing to be hookers, and she loses her mind because they deep down hate what they do, they regret doing it, they're ashamed of it.
tom fitton
No, many of them are victims of abuse.
It's just terrible, and OnlyFans and people saying so-and-so has an OnlyFan account, the media just describes it as like a normal thing to do, which is another sign of the decline of our civilization.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, we should treat OnlyFans like it's weird.
tim pool
Can I read this one thing real quick?
So this other woman, like I said, a real housewife, says, Tim Poole can F all the way off for calling my girl Drea, my queen Drea, a hooker.
Not that there's anything wrong with being a hooker!
But that's not what she is, and how dare you call her something in a defamatory way for having an OnlyFans account, you dickless mother effer.
I'm just sitting here being like, I never once said a mean thing about her.
tom fitton
Well, I was talking about this before the show started, this clip between Norm Macdonald talking to Jerry Seinfeld.
Talking about Kojak.
And, uh, McDonald's imitating Kojak saying his daughter, you know, the daughter who was killed was a prostitute.
And the mother said, well, you know, she was a good girl.
And he imitates Kojak.
tim pool
She was a hooker!
Yeah.
phil labonte
She was a hooker.
hannah claire brimelow
But with a heart of gold, you know?
I just, like, this whole argument is so strange to me personally because, like, maybe you should just be like, yeah, Tim, I'm a hooker and I'm proud of it.
Like, why can't you just embrace what you're doing if it's fine?
But obviously you don't think it is.
And also maybe it's not okay because this is a terrible way to treat yourself and to treat the women around you, right?
tom fitton
It's digital sex trafficking.
hannah claire brimelow
It's digital sex trafficking and you're You are going on OnlyFans and making a profile.
Like, this is weird.
I don't like it.
And again, what bothers me the most is she acted like she had no other options.
phil labonte
I want to push back on the digital sex trafficking because this is not the same thing as sex trafficking.
Because that's a crime.
Like, sex trafficking is a crime that people should go to jail for.
What she's doing is not a crime.
People can condemn it.
You can dislike it, you can condemn it, that's fine.
You don't have to like it, but it's not a crime.
tom fitton
Well, read the federal obscenity statute, so you might think otherwise.
phil labonte
No, no, okay, listen.
First of all, I hate the government, so screw that goddamn obscenity thing, okay?
And second of all, like, sincerely, it's like, I'm not, like, I'm the kind of libertarian guy.
I think it's okay if people want to go ahead and do this kind of stuff.
But society should not lie to itself about what it does and does not approve of.
And the reaction that people are giving is why, is because society is lying to itself.
If you actually are okay with sex workers, which personally I am, like, I don't have a problem with it.
But if you are okay with it, then it's okay.
But if you aren't okay with it, It's okay to say, no, I don't think this is okay.
But the fact that people are lying about it is why there's this cognitive dissonance and the reaction that people are having.
tim pool
So if I tweeted, women quitting their jobs to begin sex work is an arc I didn't expect feminism to take, you think they would not have gotten mad?
phil labonte
I do think that there would have been less of a reaction.
I do think some people would have been upset, but I do honestly think that had you used the term sex worker, I think that there would have been less reaction.
hannah claire brimelow
They should reclaim the term hooker!
It is!
phil labonte
I'm not debating that at all.
I'm just saying that the way that you articulate stuff does matter and they're getting upset because they're perceiving it as an attack because The term hooker has for as long as we have, at least as long as I've been alive, been associated with a negative connotation.
tom fitton
Well, I guess my pushback, Tim, is that you shouldn't be surprised that the feminists, or at least the radical extremist leftists who call themselves feminists, Because they've been embracing this concept of sex work for years.
We're not allowed to use the word prostitute.
Look, sex work with the Biden administration and human trafficking, they don't talk about prostitution anymore.
They talk about it in a neutral term, in a neutral way that suggests that in some circumstances they endorse the abuse of every human being involved in that process of prostitution.
tim pool
So I think I figured it out.
Phil, what if I said that she was the director of sexual gratification relief at her independent company?
Do you think she would be upset if I said that?
No.
Maybe I should give her a title.
phil labonte
Slide a boss bitch in there and you'd get a pat on the back.
tim pool
Let's do what George Carlin described when he was, I don't know if you've ever seen that bit about political correctness, where he says, we used to call it shell shock.
Now we call it post-traumatic stress disorder.
We have to make it longer and more verbose.
And I think, I don't know if he mentions invalid and retard.
The things that people used to say that were considered normal descriptive terms became offensive for no reason.
That's where we are now.
Well, I am not letting this like leftist sex positive, you know, movement take the word hooker from me.
When I was a kid, we said hooker.
unidentified
We're taking it back!
tim pool
It wasn't an insult.
It was just a thing.
And it was- it was like there were hookers there, and like there was a noun to describe a person.
You can't get mad at a word because it describes you.
That's it.
unidentified
Sorry.
tim pool
Have a nice day.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, and I think you have to accept that being on OnlyFans is the equivalent of sex work.
We should stop pretending it's like, I'm a fun influencer, I just happen to be behind a paywall.
Like, no.
Most people- You're engaged in sex work, just accept it, and if you're engaged in sex work, you're probably a hooker.
tom fitton
And we're laughing about her response.
She's obviously a woman in crisis.
We should be praying for her.
For sure, but also- That she's in this situation and feels the need to respond, not necessarily you, but to respond to whatever crisis she's in by abusing herself through this sex trafficking film.
hannah claire brimelow
That's a very dignified and compassionate response, but I will say, it bothers me.
It does bother me that she is saying that this is like her only option.
I mean, same thing with the girls who are like, I make more money on OnlyFans than being a nurse.
But you're not, you don't have to make more money on OnlyFans.
You could be a nurse.
tim pool
You could choose to just be a nurse.
hannah claire brimelow
You could do something else.
You're saying that this is the work I want to do because I find it either gratifying or easy or it pays big bucks and that's what I want to do.
tim pool
But she makes this point where she's saying like, I hope you never end up like I am, and I was like, I was homeless several times.
Not once did I resort to being a male escort.
hannah claire brimelow
I also hope you never get OnlyFans, Tim.
tom fitton
The big deal to me, and I'm going to drive you even further crazy, it's like this normalization of vice.
So we've got OnlyFans, and we spent decades trying to keep gambling out of sports.
Now gambling has taken over sports.
In a way that is just extraordinary to me that I just can't believe given where we used to be in terms of keeping, you know, the Pete Rose scandal and everything.
Now, you know, gambling has a seat at the table in every major sports league in the country.
This player out in Los Angeles has gotten caught up in it.
It's this normalization of vice.
No good can come from it.
And the fact that there's widespread OnlyFans activity online, widespread gambling online, Is it a sign of dysfunction, both legally and morally?
tim pool
Not even online, we've talked about this quite a bit.
Where we are right now in the tri-state, Maryland, Virginia, West Virginia, let's quick, okay, Maryland's got, near the East Coast, you've got Horseshoe Baltimore Casino, you've got Maryland Live Casino, you've got MGM Casino, you've got Hollywood Paraville Casino, you've got Rocky Gap And so I think that's five casinos in the state of Maryland.
Now let's talk about the surrounding areas, which are still within two or so hours driving from where we are.
You've got those five.
Then you've got the Delaware racetrack, which is only like half an hour outside of Baltimore.
Then you've got Harrisburg, Hollywood, York, Hollywood.
That's eight.
Then you've got Hollywood, Charlestown.
There are nine Physical casinos within a couple hours.
Then we can add, if you want to go to Pittsburgh, which is two and a half to three hours, now you've got Pittsburgh Live, and you've got, I believe you've got, I think you've got a Hollywood, I could be wrong, but let's just say ten.
Ten casinos.
Then, on your way, heading up north towards Pittsburgh, about two hours from here, you also have Lady Luck.
There are eleven or twelve casinos within two or so hours of driving from where we are right now.
Twelve.
tom fitton
And you're not even counting Atlantic City.
tim pool
Oh, Atlantic City I think is three and a half hours or four hours driving.
So it's a bit out there, but that's a day trip.
You leave Saturday morning, you spend the night, you leave Sunday night, you're back home.
At Atlantic City.
Now, I can tolerate Atlantic City, in terms of the argument of vice.
We have Vegas, we have Atlantic City.
tom fitton
Yeah, you kept them local.
tim pool
They were vacation spots.
You went to, for your vacation, to engage in your vices.
You drink, you party, you gamble.
But then you go back and say, okay, we're gonna get back to being productive.
Now it's just everywhere.
tom fitton
That's right, and it's all targeted, and interestingly, it's all targeted at young men.
Both vices we're talking about.
The whole, you know, the gambling online operations.
It's all the marketing seems to me directed at young men and only fans like, you know, my guess is a broad marketing campaign.
tim pool
Someone super chatted that I should tweet the sex work version.
Well, I tweeted, I quoted the exact same story and I wrote, women deciding to engage in sexual activity for strangers is an arc I didn't expect feminism to lead to.
I hope that clears things up.
Although I do believe they'll still get very, very angry that I referred to them as engaging in sexual activity for strangers, which is a fact.
Everyone can cry some more and then we'll all move on with our lives.
hannah claire brimelow
Where are these people's fathers?
I'm sorry, this is ridiculous.
tom fitton
God help America.
tim pool
How did we get to this point where we have become just vice?
Like, all of these casinos popping up really is shocking.
hannah claire brimelow
I think it's because we're a society that lacks community and lacks religion, right?
Like, there is no expectation that you would live to a high standard.
In fact, we're told always, live and let live, it's fine, don't be judgmental, everything's okay.
There's no collective morals that say, hey, there are things we're against, and we don't like them, and we don't want to encourage them.
I like liberty.
I think you should be able to do things that you want to do.
On the other hand, I think that we as a society would say, like, hey, if you're on OnlyFans, we're going to judge you for it.
We think that's not a good move.
tim pool
Didn't the owner try to, like, shut down porn on OnlyFans?
Like, they started getting scared at how much porn was popping up, and they tried to shut it down, but then the investors revolted.
They were like, we're rich.
phil labonte
I know they've tried to.
tim pool
Turn the world to the ground.
More degeneracy makes us money.
Yep, yep.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I think moral identity does profit and that's ultimately won out.
I mean, that's one of the reasons I think we're sort of this identity-less culture, which is that the dollar reigns everything and saying like, hey, like, again, I go back to this example of the nurses that are like, I make more money on OnlyFans.
Like, yes, but you pay with your dignity, homie.
Like, is this the price that you are willing to say it's better to make more money?
I'd rather be rich than to be able to look at myself in the eye.
tim pool
Look, if I tweeted this and they responded with, yeah, that's kind of crazy, right?
Well, that'd be the end of it.
tom fitton
And it's a failure of Christian leadership in America.
I mean, because it used to be that the Christian moral view on these topics meant that laws reflected that.
phil labonte
Christianity doesn't have the balls to defend itself.
tom fitton
And Christians in this country have been attacked and belittled by the culture, made fun of for even thinking about these issues in terms of morality.
And they don't even engage anymore.
I'm in the movement, I know a lot of Christian evangelicals, they've been always very concerned about the gambling, but the money just overwhelmed and overwashed them, and too many Christians are embarrassed to say, this is wrong, should be illegal, For all sorts of reasons, including moral reasons.
And that is a valid basis for law.
The left can do all sorts of laws based on their morality.
Conservatives aren't allowed to.
phil labonte
The idea that society must celebrate things like sex work or vice, right?
So celebrating drinking, celebrating doing drugs, celebrating gambling, celebrating All that kind of stuff is a terrible, terrible idea.
There is nothing wrong with having a society that says, or it should be desirable to have a society that says families are good, right?
Families with a mother and a father and kids, that's good because that's the foundation of a society.
So the resources should be poured into making those things more attractive.
If the government is going to cheerlead for anyone, it should not be cheerleading for the LGBT lobby just because that group of people are not making more people.
They're not making more of the society.
So if the government is going to have an opinion, it should be The traditional family opinion, right?
tom fitton
It shouldn't be the fringe edge of society we need to center and make the... To all my libertarian friends, I'm sorry, the government can't be neutral in areas of morality.
phil labonte
It doesn't work.
I'm saying I'm in agreement with you.
tom fitton
I don't think that we should be tossing people in jail for using drugs and ruining lives because it tends to ruin lives way more than it does to... The debate is about the sanction and what's But I think we should have a strong enough social fabric that says, like, there are things we don't accept.
hannah claire brimelow
Like, the idea that, like, a man would abandon his family, right?
Like, I think that would be bad.
phil labonte
I agree, but it shouldn't, just so long as it doesn't turn into throwing people in jail, because that only adds more problems.
tom fitton
Right, but if we don't have- Maybe it means throwing people in jail.
phil labonte
Again, you're talking about an existing crime, Tom!
I'm not saying that we should not enforce existing laws and none of what I'm talking about is sex trafficking!
Stop it!
Like I said, you're judicial watch!
hannah claire brimelow
But I think the thing is, if you don't want a government punishment, if you don't want it to be like, if you abandon your family, you could go to jail or whatever, which there were laws in states like that, right?
phil labonte
Yes.
hannah claire brimelow
If you don't want that, then you have to have some kind of reinforcement somewhere, and it has to be social, which means you have to have a strong cultural idea of what we think is acceptable.
tim pool
Culture is above law and politics 100% always and always will be.
The reason why Christians have lost so much ground is because they gave culture to the left.
The left then made it uncool and unacceptable to be Christian.
tom fitton
I guess my point is for the left, Politics rules everything.
Power politics rules everything.
tim pool
And they put politics into the cultural spaces to change what was allowed, because they know that you can pass a law saying you can't eat cheeseburgers on Sunday, and then they make a bunch of movies of people eating cheeseburgers on Sunday, and then everyone's like, I eat cheeseburgers on Sunday, and then all of a sudden the moral values of whatever it may be don't matter because no cop is willing to enforce the law anymore.
We have tons of laws in the books today that are unenforceable.
Like, the famous blue laws, the joke one we like to reference is, women can't go skydiving on Sunday in Florida, which I think is not a real law or whatever.
It's a joke, but I think it might have been a real law at some point.
What cop is going to land, is going to stand near the landing point for skydivers, wait for the woman to land, and then go, ma'am, you're under arrest.
It's never going to happen.
Why?
It's culturally unacceptable.
The judge would say you're insane.
There are still areas of Chicago that are under prohibition.
And people don't even know this because everybody drinks and nothing is happening.
Because no cop is going to walk into a bar and be like, prohibition!
Yes, this neighborhood is under... They just don't even... That doesn't even happen.
tom fitton
Yeah, and although we should also recognize, to Phil's point, the widespread availability of alcohol, It destroys parts of our society and we just willingly accept it as if there's nothing we can do about it.
It's just like the rain.
It's never the case.
It should never be the case.
tim pool
I think this trope of the stodgy dad who doesn't want to dance and the kids who want to go dance is part of this leftist indoctrination.
tom fitton
I mean there has to be a Kevin Bacon footloose.
tim pool
Well, the left says, the movie makes the parents out to be bad for saying no dancing.
tom fitton
Right.
tim pool
But the moral of the story is, rigid social order, bad.
Go have fun and do whatever you want, but that's just one degree.
It results in, we had a great super chat where someone said, you know you're an idiocracy when you drive down a highway and half the billboards are weed, gambling, and lawyers.
tom fitton
Well, you know, one thing I've noted on the metro in DC, and I do take public transportation, Certainly, recently, is the amount of pot in the air.
Everyone's smoking pot on the trains.
And it occurred to me that if they were smoking cigarettes, we'd probably have federal troops on the train.
But you light up fire on a train for pot, we're afraid to enforce the law.
It's so crazy.
tim pool
Oh, I've seen a guy get thrown to the ground for eating a hot dog on a bus.
And the people started getting mad.
How dare you?
But when it comes to weed, everyone's attitude is, weed's not so bad.
We shouldn't put people in jail for it.
No, no, no, smoking, smoking, dude.
I don't care what you're doing.
Don't smoke or eat on the train or the bus.
Those are the rules.
tom fitton
In D.C., 8th Street, which was the D.C.
government spent millions of dollars, tens of millions of dollars trying to rehabilitate since it was burned down during the riots, you know, after Martin Luther King and such.
uh now is is destitute and uh it's famous for having i think about 20 or so uh marijuana dispensaries on the strip and they wonder why it's attracted the wrong crowd see that's the challenge with marijuana legalization because i don't believe it should be illegal but decriminalization leads to a massive industry of people engaging in bad behavior You know, I kind of run hot and cold on it.
I just don't see how legalizing it works.
It just can't work.
And it will never work.
tim pool
What do you mean by working?
tom fitton
In the sense of not producing societal effects that require its prohibition.
That ultimately requires prohibition.
I mean, A, the health effects of marijuana are much more significant than have previously been acknowledged.
The type of marijuana now widely available is still much more powerful.
And plus, the black market has actually benefited from the legalization of marijuana because other drugs that aren't legalized have increased in value.
tim pool
Yep.
tom fitton
And they're still involved in the marijuana market anyway.
tim pool
Every day another grain of sand is added to the heap of moral degeneracy in this country.
And all the libertarians are saying things like, why shouldn't we be allowed to gamble?
Why shouldn't we be allowed to smoke pot?
There is no happy medium.
There is no point of total freedom.
We've found the balancing point between freedom, security, and morality.
It doesn't exist.
tom fitton
Would you want to live on this strip in Las Vegas?
Have you ever been in a strip on Las Vegas?
It is one of the grossest displays of human behavior and vice you'll ever see.
tim pool
I don't know if I agree with that.
Like, what are you referring to?
tom fitton
The pushing of drugs?
tim pool
That's true. The sex work. The Monty, the uh, it's gross.
tom fitton
It's gross. Yeah. Fair point. No, no one wants to live in the middle of Las Vegas. They may
want to work around Las Vegas.
Who wants to live in a, who wants to live in a gambling house? The, I, the thing that, that
phil labonte
kind of surprises me or, or that I can't wrap my head around Vegas is the fact that it's,
they try to make it a more of a family experience while still having, I mean,
it's not as seedy as it was in the seventies, sure. Uh, or, or early eighties, but still it's
the attraction to Las Vegas is gambling, partying, drinking, and, and I suppose shows, but really
like...
You shouldn't be bringing your kids to Las Vegas, you know?
I mean, you want to bring your kids to Disney, that's one thing.
Maybe not now.
hannah claire brimelow
I think it's just that Las Vegas doesn't want to miss out on the families that are driving through, you know what I mean?
unidentified
Well, it's corporations.
phil labonte
It's big corporations.
hannah claire brimelow
Those are still potential customers and clients, so we have to have some place for them in every city, even if the city is generally marketing all of its entertainments towards adults over 21, let's say.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, the attraction in Vegas is still largely for adults.
It's not like there's things that are designed specifically for children, but they do try to make it at least family enough so that way parents that are questionable parents will bring their kids to Vegas while they party, I guess.
tim pool
Well, there's the pool area and there's areas for kids.
Atlantic City actually turned, someone turned one of the casinos into an arcade.
So now the family can bring the kids to Atlantic City and... Which I still think is probably not good.
phil labonte
You shouldn't be bringing your kids to Vegas.
Bring your kids somewhere else.
And again, I have no problem with people that go to Vegas and party.
tom fitton
I'm not necessarily opposed to adult gambling.
I'm not saying that, but it's...
I agree.
tim pool
We have 12 casinos to choose from.
If we leave Saturday in the morning, we're like, oh, look at one of the 12 casinos.
That's bad.
hannah claire brimelow
Especially for impoverished areas.
phil labonte
No, no.
tim pool
MGM National Harbor, the highest grossing casino outside of Vegas.
Uh, beating even Atlantic City is insane!
900 million dollars just south of DC.
hannah claire brimelow
DC for sure for that one, but you are also talking about 10 others that are in other areas that I would just say, like, it is not great for impoverished areas to have casinos, right?
tim pool
But the only impoverished area is probably Charlestown.
tom fitton
Churches can still run.
hannah claire brimelow
Where there is a casino.
tim pool
And that's the one out of twelve.
So, uh, you could argue Baltimore, I guess.
That's in downtown.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, I know there's a ton in Wheeling.
Wheeling's impoverished in West Virginia.
tim pool
I mean, it's not... Well, West Virginia is impoverished.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
tim pool
And West Virginia has five casinos.
hannah claire brimelow
Virginians are parts of Ohio.
tim pool
No, they may have four now.
unidentified
I'm just saying, like, it's... Well, the government's involved in gambling operations.
tim pool
There are lots of reasons why this is bad.
I'll tell you about West Virginia.
The problem with West Virginia is the hot spots.
Hotspots.
tom fitton
I don't know if everyone's... What do you mean by that?
tim pool
So it's a common thing in West Virginia.
They are basically mini casinos.
You'll go to a building that's maybe like 400 square feet.
Typically you'll find a woman behind the counter selling beer.
And it's just like a refrigerator with a stack of Coronas.
And then there's 10 slot machines.
And people go in there and they dump their paychecks and leave.
Not a good thing for the state.
I suppose the state of West Virginia is happy because it generates tax revenue for them, but having hot spots all over the state?
It is not a good thing.
What do you do?
Do you say, you're not allowed?
Look, morally, I think you can do whatever you want with your money.
It's your money.
If I wanna make a wager with Phil about, you know, a coin flip, that's our money to choose how we spend it and what we spend it on.
It's insane to me that the government would be like, no, you're not allowed to spend your money on a game.
unidentified
I agree.
tom fitton
Churches should still be able to run bingos.
tim pool
But then you end up with, in any given area, there's like, within, I mean, we talk about casinos.
You go to West Virginia and there's gonna be like 12 hotspots, they call them, just surrounding you in every possible direction.
And these are miniature casinos.
You go in, some of them are nice, I gotta be honest.
There's one we went to, it was really, really nice.
They had like a really nice logo, and it was like an Ace of Spades,
it was called like Ace of Kates or something like that.
And you go in, it's a cafe, and then there's a row, a nice carpeted area
with a row of slot machines.
And I'm like, the cafe part's nice.
You know where they get away with this stuff is because they say, what's the difference
between an instant scratcher and a pull on a slot machine?
Nothing.
So how can you ban one not the other?
The issue is the speed at which you can crank a slot machine by slamming the button over and over again and people will just burn through money like crazy.
I'm not saying people shouldn't be allowed to do it, I'm just saying our society is in moral decay because people want to do it.
tom fitton
Recognize the addictive nature and dangerous nature of it and It's gotta be controlled and strictly regulated.
Get the government out of it, we'll have less of it, that's for sure.
phil labonte
I agree about that, but the situation really is we need society to stop you know, glamorizing things that are vices and we need
society to start valorizing what you would consider wholesome behavior, valorize people that start
families, you want to uplift, you know, people that have three, four kids and that should be
something that the government, if it's going, again, if it's going to have a position, it should be a pro-life
position.
It should not be a pro-unique family or individualist perspective.
It should be something that is pro-family and pro-community.
And if you do that, then you'll go a long way in cutting off the incentives for things like OnlyFans and the things like Gambling and other vices.
tim pool
You need shame.
phil labonte
You do, you do.
But shame is not the government.
That's social.
hannah claire brimelow
The society that says these things are good, these things are bad.
phil labonte
Which is exactly what I'm talking about.
tim pool
In reference to the OnlyFans things, a lot of people are responding saying, shame the women on OnlyFans.
And I'm like, I did not even do that.
You know what I mean?
I didn't even have that line.
I'm just pointing it out.
But I do think a society needs to have a healthy amount of shame To shame people who do things that are bad, but they should be allowed to do if they really want to, there should just be a rec- like a rec- recognizing you are doing something that we disagree- like we think is bad.
You can do it though.
tom fitton
For them too!
I mean, you're not ha- I don't bel- you know, shame versus not telling this actress what she's doing is not a good thing.
That has to be something we have to deal with now, right?
tim pool
I didn't even say there was anything wrong with it!
Well, yeah, but when I said she was doing it!
tom fitton
Well, you suggested strongly by using a negative word.
tim pool
I didn't think Hooker was negative!
tom fitton
But it kind of is though.
But if you would recognize hooker is a kind of a word that I don't I if I called someone a hooker.
tim pool
But sex workers are the same category and they claim they like it.
So I'm just like, I don't know, what's the difference?
hannah claire brimelow
Women refer to each other as, I'm going to curse on you, but like women refer to each other as bitches all the time in like a friendly way.
Like, why don't they just start calling each other hookies in a friendly way?
tim pool
What's the difference between sex worker and hooker?
tom fitton
Yo, listen, when it comes to about... One has a moral negativity around it.
phil labonte
No, you're not going to tell me... That's not, because if you listen... Go listen to Sexy Red's newest single.
hannah claire brimelow
Absolutely not.
I would never.
phil labonte
All she does, all they do is talk about being... They're literally talking about selling their bodies.
They're sex workers.
And Sexy Red is a hot new rapper.
unidentified
So the idea that this woman... I have to look her up, I'm sorry.
phil labonte
I mean...
unidentified
I don't think she's awesome and hilarious.
tim pool
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But we're gonna read Super Chats now.
We got Clint Torres says, howdy people!
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And Waffle says, howdy Clinton Mitchell!
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unidentified
Alright.
tim pool
Shane Wilder says, Tim, I want to commend you on your eloquently worded discourse this morning on X about digital prostitutes.
I've been saying this for a while.
I agree.
unidentified
And I did a long segment on it talking about how like... Is prostitutes negative or positive?
tom fitton
What word is that?
phil labonte
Prostitute is neutral.
tim pool
So the issue is, historically, morally, being a prostitute, being a hooker, is frowned upon.
So, the reason why someone would say the words have a negative connotation is because the act itself is viewed negatively.
They say sex worker because they're trying to isolate what they're doing, which is prostitution and hooking, from the historical words which people associate in a bad way.
It is post-modernist, word-definition garbage trying to shift someone's perspective based on changing the words, but it describes the exact same thing.
You aren't only fans who raise sex worker.
Sex workers are hookers.
phil labonte
That's just what they are.
The worker part actually is a connotation to the proletariat, so like they're members of the workers.
tom fitton
You could just tell.
phil labonte
Exactly.
tim pool
Jose Alfredo Diaz says, Christ is king.
Practice espanol, Tim Cristo es rey.
unidentified
Is that how you say it?
tom fitton
That one, I've passed over that whole Christ is king thing.
tim pool
Christ is king.
Jesus' second coming is going to be a real bloodbath if you are not saved.
I believe that's literally in the Bible though, isn't it?
Jason Dixon says, Tim, Diddy was caught being gay and doing crimes.
phil labonte
That's right.
tim pool
Here we go.
Nee says, Christ is King.
Look up Moloch Ritual, July 1933.
Interesting.
unidentified
All right.
All right.
tim pool
What are we looking at?
Daniel Domasik says, Hey Tim, if you search Stargate Atlantis First Strike Nuke, it's a great clip to show the Merv.
Oh, cool.
Stargate Atlantis.
I didn't watch Atlantis.
I watched SG-1.
That was an awesome show.
You guys ever watch SG-1?
No.
tom fitton
I've seen it, it's on cable again.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, they have it on Comet.
Jason Dixon says, over here waiting for Tim to defend Diddy with all the police corruption and horrible abuse of power.
I know my rights.
This Friday we're having a couple cops on.
Cool.
And we're gonna talk with active duty police officers.
So that'll be fun.
And these were guys, I guess, they literally showed up to one of our staffers' houses like, hey, Tim, you should talk to us.
And we were like, he should, you're correct, come on the show.
tom fitton
Ask him about Ashley Babbitt's shooting.
tim pool
Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of issues that I think aren't necessarily about the police when we talk about police.
It's about human nature and what humans do when confronted with these circumstances.
And historically, what we see is, no matter who you are, there is a tendency, not every human does this, but when it comes to authoritarianism, the people in military law enforcement say, I will march in lockstep with the machine committing the atrocities because I don't want to be on the other side of that stick.
Alright, King Apollyon says, DJT to the moon tomorrow!
That's right, there's going to be a stock called DJT.
unidentified
That is... that is absurd.
hannah claire brimelow
You just couldn't write the 2024 election.
You know what I mean?
unidentified
You just couldn't.
tim pool
Ian Morrison says, Tim, Drea de Mateo was blacklisted for refusing the Vax.
She's pretty anti-woke and went to OnlyFans just to interact with fans.
I don't believe she does anything explicit and nudity.
She'd be a good guest.
Well, my friend, she probably would be a good guest, but you're incorrect.
According to her friend on Instagram, she launched it with a nude photo on Instagram.
And according to even the story we were reading, I can't show the photos they posted.
They're not, uh, one of the articles has explicit, has outright nudity, but she's like, got her legs crossed, and she's covering herself, and it says it's on her onlyfans, so I don't, whatever.
She's like, Tim didn't do his research.
I looked all this stuff up.
I just didn't know if it was fair to say, like, some people might not refer to that as hooking or whatever.
And, uh, some of the photos are just straight-up pictures of her boobs in a bikini.
And I'm like, you're just posting sexually suggestive content for money.
Like, that's literally what you're doing.
You announce it with a nude.
And one of the photos is her and another woman with their hands against the wall pushing their butts out in their underwear.
And I'm like, okay, like, dude, come on.
All we're doing is arguing the degrees at which you are engaged in sexual activity for money.
So, uh, I am sorry, Ian.
No, she does have those photos.
I can't show those photos on YouTube.
If we were to actually show those and be like, here's what she's doing, we would get deranked and demonetized for adult content, and possibly the show could be age-restricted to 18+.
That's what might happen.
And so, okay, I'll do whatever you want.
Well, we didn't show the photos.
tom fitton
Do you want to restrict it to 18+, given our prior conversation?
tim pool
Talking about- I don't think there's any issue with talking about the news.
tom fitton
Oh, just ask it.
tim pool
I mean, when I was a kid, I'd turn on Fox News and they'd talk about rapists and murderers and blood splattered all over the street.
So, the news is the news.
Showing untoward, you know, degenerate behaviors and stuff, I think, should be adult only.
tom fitton
But I don't think- This is probably an R-rated discussion sometimes, don't you think?
tim pool
I think when it comes to an issue of, like, we are discussing the news, then we do have people email saying, please don't swear, sometimes my kids are around.
But that's for a parent to decide if they want their kids to hear about news and politics.
We're, like, you know, talking about what they're engaging in.
tom fitton
So it's a news show, there should be no age restriction, I understand.
tim pool
But parental parents should be watching over it.
My issue with Twitter is not that we should... The only reason I agree with this and is signing this bill is because the companies aren't doing anything to enforce the law the way they legally are required to do already.
So, Twitter, X, should, any adult content, anyone who posts in any adult content, it should be blurred out, you can't see it.
The only way to see it is if you're verified.
tom fitton
That's the content that Section 230 specifically authorizes the removal of.
tim pool
Yep, yep.
Yeah, it is tough with the news though, because there is a fine line between where parents will decide and whether or not someone's posting or doing untoward things.
But I think the news is the hard limit, and news organizations typically have the discretion of like, there's certain things we won't say or won't show for the sake of, you know, public decency.
tom fitton
Right.
tim pool
Let's go!
Let's grab another Super Chat.
William Kelly says, Diddle you this, diddle you that, who's afraid of the diddler's bat?
That's the set that comes to mind hearing the diddler.
Well, okay.
Jacob Hawley says, Did P. Diddy do it, Phil?
It depends on what the definition of did is.
Anyway, Phil for President or Congress, please, Phil, you can just yell, scream at them during every bill or meeting and vote no in everything, please.
phil labonte
No.
hannah claire brimelow
That means yes.
He wants to be in Congress.
You can see it in his eyes, but he's being humble.
tom fitton
What district would you run?
phil labonte
I would actively railroad my campaign.
unidentified
There's no way I would ever, ever, ever.
phil labonte
I would never serve in Congress.
tim pool
Gee says, bro, Tulsi is going to be VP.
She basically confirmed it last Friday.
Well, I know that she's on the shortlist apparently, right?
For Trump's VP pick?
I think that would be great.
I don't know that she is the right choice.
I don't know.
Everyone's like, who should he pick?
I'm like, man, I really don't know.
But if he did pick Tulsi, I'd be very happy.
I think she's a good choice.
What do you think, Tom?
tom fitton
I don't think so.
I don't think she's pro-life.
tim pool
She's not.
tom fitton
So I think it would be a bad choice.
tim pool
But the point is to get voters that Trump can't already reach.
So if we're talking about a post-liberal, the Democrats have gone too far candidate who is appealing to the likes of Elon Musk and people who are not necessarily fully informed, I think Tulsi Gabbard casts a wide net on that regard.
tom fitton
I think Republicans tend to lose elections, I'm putting on my political analyst hat, because they don't get enough Republicans out voting.
unidentified
I agree.
tom fitton
And conservatives voting.
So he needs to ensure that everyone who's a part of the coalition has a reason to come and vote for him, and not want to suppress that coalition in any way.
And I think having a pro-abortion candidate on his ticket would suppress the pro-life vote in a close election.
I mean, it's possible you're right.
I'm just saying.
unidentified
I think Biden is so... Who knows, right?
tom fitton
But I would be cautious about, and that's the trick for Trump, is how is it he kind of talks about abortion in a way that makes the full coalition comfortable.
tim pool
I do think it's frustrating for me how many Republicans refuse to articulate their moral positions out of fear that people don't agree with them.
And I'm just kind of like, if you think people don't agree with you, then stop trying to win power, I guess.
Like, the argument should be, I am right, and if only they heard the correct argument, they would agree with me.
But if you genuinely think you could not present your idea to someone and they would agree with you, then you just know you're wrong.
The issue of abortion, particularly, too many Republicans keep trying to dance this moderate ground instead of just coming out right being like, ban it all!
Across the country, ban it all!
And then arguing why they think it should be permanently banned in all circumstances.
Seamus Coghlan has no problem saying that.
He says, here's what I believe, here's why I believe it, it should be banned completely in this country.
tom fitton
You know, you raise an interesting point.
They might want to think about saying, I believe life begins at conception, and we should think of ways to protect that life.
And we're going to disagree, but we all agree that there's a life at issue here.
And I think that's where most people are, and they'll debate whether to have it at six weeks, four weeks, or ban it entirely.
But most Americans want restrictions on abortion.
I'm not trying to argue abortion right now, my point is... Politically, I think you're right about being forthright on your views, because people don't like people who aren't forthright in their views.
tim pool
And when they don't present, my position is abortion X, then regular people never hear the argument.
How could someone actually agree with your argument if you don't give it to them?
phil labonte
Well, there is the fact that the people on the left and people that are pro-choice have spent decades, multiple decades, lying about what their position is.
They sold it as safe, legal, and rare, and it was never going to be birth control.
It was only for emergencies and et cetera, et cetera.
The, you know, essentially the conservatives or the moderates had agreed to, I guess, not regular conservative.
That's what the moderates had agreed to in the 90s.
It was safe, legal, and rare.
And that's what, that's what essentially convinced enough people to say, well, okay, maybe.
And then after that, it was all downhill.
It was just, oh, shout your abortion.
Let's have a party.
I'm going to, I'm going to have, I'm going to literally celebrate my fifth abortion.
You get people behaving like that.
tom fitton
And then, you know, you're just like, all right, we're your ghouls.
Death cult.
I mean, Vice President Harris, first vice president, first president or vice president to go and visit an abortion clinic.
And the clinic she went and visited kills unborn babies up until nearly the sixth month of pregnancy and helps women kill them afterwards somewhere else.
This is where the left Democrat Party is.
Abortion on demand through the entire nine months of pregnancy paid for with your tax dollars.
It's got to be restrictions.
tim pool
We'll grab some more.
Stanford says it's pronounced Antigua.
unidentified
There you go.
tim pool
Not Antigua, it's Antiga.
Grandstanding and Hotdogging says, I was double charged by your website for several months.
I emailed the customer service team about it.
They refunded me within a day or two.
Great service.
I'm so happy with their work that I want to give the money back.
Buy them lunch on me, please.
Will do.
In fact, we do that frequently.
Last week, we did lunch like four days out of the week.
Basically, when, if my girlfriend is not around, I'm either dipping bacon into cheese sauce or ordering food.
hannah claire brimelow
We all know when Allison's gone because Tim will be like, okay, food's coming today!
tim pool
Yeah, I was like, I ordered like this massive box of Chinese food.
And so everyone's like, ah, Allison must not be here.
unidentified
Because Allison cooks real good food.
tim pool
Today we had, I had ground turkey with cheese and onions, Cajun spice and white rice, like very healthy.
Checking my macros.
But if she's not here, it's like, It's like Taco Bell's here, guys.
We're like, see ya, Allison!
tom fitton
Mexican pizza.
tim pool
There was the one day where I was like, what did you have for dinner?
I was dipping bacon in cheese sauce.
And it's like, oh jeez.
It's like, yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
It's like girl dinner, but it's Tim dinner.
tom fitton
You got your protein, you got your dairy.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
But so we do by lunch.
And so especially every Friday.
Every Friday we do sushi for everybody here at the Cast Castle.
And we are a couple weeks away from the new studio.
Really excited.
But I have news!
We are postponing the April 6th event.
It is not open to the public.
It is our official launch party skate jam contest.
If you're a skateboarder, and you have the skills to pay the bills, or you know someone who does, and they would like their share of $35,000, the email is contest at boonieshq.com.
We're going to be inviting a small group of people who send us their skateboard demos, and show that they have the certain skills for the contest.
It is $10,000 first prize for the vert wall drop-in.
feet avert to a five-foot transition if you know that if you know that means
but um maybe many of you know people who are good at skateboarding who might
consider the challenge it's on our Instagram at boonies HQ we're moving it
to April 20th because we have there's a couple things we have to do we have to
I don't want to say too much for security reasons but the first the most
important thing is we're morons and we didn't realize there's a big event
called Tampa Pro on the same day so a bunch of our pro skater friends were
like that's impossible you'll never get anyone to come out like I was like oh
dude I can't believe we did that but we're all we also want to take the
opportunity to set up some more stuff and get some like emergency backups
stuff installed and stuff so I don't want to say too much so I'm saying
stuff a lot but yeah contest at boonies HQ if you have the skills to pay the
bills on a skateboard And, uh, we just don't want a bunch of pros coming.
We want, you know, everybody to get a chance.
But we can only invite, like, five people, so.
It is what it is.
Let's grab some more Super Jets!
Piers Lort-Phillips says DJT is good, but I would have gone with TDS to further rub the loonies' noses in it.
I think it's a really good idea, but I think the reason they're going with DJT is because they want non-supporters to actually buy it.
Think about this.
Who will donate to Donald Trump?
A supporter.
A strong supporter.
Even people who want to vote for him don't donate.
What if there's regular people who want to get rich quick?
They might end up buying several thousand dollars worth of DJT stock, which will pump up the value because they think they're going to make money on it.
Trump doesn't need their support.
He needs their greed.
Bushido says, Tim, I'm a former law enforcement officer.
LEO aren't going to make a ruling on scene based on either party's statements.
Landlords need a writ of restitution from court.
You realize, good sir, that what you're saying is, if someone breaks into my house in the middle of the night with the intent of killing me, they need only put down the weapon, calmly wait for the police to arrive, and then say, I live here.
And the cops are gonna go, oh, I guess we can't remove the burglar.
Burglar lives here.
He said so.
That's what's happening with squatters.
hannah claire brimelow
Do you think we'll see a big push to change squatter laws in this country?
Because I do feel like- Well, Florida's doing it.
unidentified
Right.
hannah claire brimelow
Florida is, and I feel like that could be a lead for other countries.
But it's a story I see in the news a lot more frequently, but I don't feel like I see the same legislative action.
tom fitton
Well, certainly not in the progressive-controlled jurisdictions.
You know, rent control, they're going to- it'll be the end of rent control once they get rid of squatters.
unidentified
Yep.
tom fitton
I mean, what is rent control other than legalized squatting?
tim pool
Yeah.
That's crazy.
I knew somebody who lived in Santa Monica and their rent was like 500 bucks for this like two bedroom because they, they like had, it was just, I forgot how they do it, but they transfer the lease over somehow.
hannah claire brimelow
Some woman had it since- Or they never say who actually left and always just keep paying the same rent.
tim pool
I don't know how it works in California, but someone was like, I think it was like a woman who lived there for 30 years.
And so she would rent out one of the rooms and it was a couple hundred bucks and the whole place was only like $500.
Same thing in New York.
Yeah, that's crazy.
And then what do you do who wants to own that building?
We were looking at buying a building in Charlestown and Then the person who owned like we're like, okay, we want to buy this We're gonna open a business here And then the owner was like we've given a three-year lease to the tenant upstairs and I said see you later Have a nice day.
unidentified
I'm not buying your building like that's that's not you don't want to be a landlord.
tim pool
I Oh, I don't want to be a landlord, but I have no problem if it was like, we're going to get like, we'll, we'll talk with the guy who lives here and ask him how long he needs, but we're buying the building.
tom fitton
And I need to leave.
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
Like a year or something.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
tim pool
And like, and I was like, and we'll help him move.
And like, we don't want to throw someone out if they've been here for a while, but they're like, they're getting a three year lease.
I'm like, I'm not buying your building.
I'm like, I can't invest in this and build a business in it with some stranger living there for three years.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
That's like, we can't do it.
And that's fine.
I'm like, if that's your terms, like by all means, your building, you do whatever you want with it.
I got no beef.
But I'm sure they would have preferred to sell it.
Maybe they sold it.
Whatever.
Venus Sophia says I bought 10 shares of DWAC in the first hour and day of trading.
Looking forward to the merger.
Planned on holding on to my shares for a very long time.
I mean, these DJT shares are basically the Trump trading cards everybody wants.
You know what I mean?
It's like your share of Donald Trump himself.
That's all truth social is.
You know what I mean?
It's like, why be on it?
Well, that's Trump.
If you want to follow Trump, that's the platform.
What do we got?
Rita Ho says, My great-granddad owned land and was beaten to death by Red Guards in China.
My granddad escaped, but he lost everyone.
The book author is a supporter of the Communist Party and Uyghur genocide.
He still lives in China.
I believe the book, Three-Body Problem, doesn't even mention the Cultural Revolution.
I looked up the book, I could be wrong, and I think in the book they don't mention the culture revolution.
It takes place in like 1979 or something, where they discover aliens or something like that.
The Netflix show decides to put it ten years before, and then have it be the merciless communist murders that took place.
tom fitton
Yeah, I'm trying to think where, as like the Chinese communist, you know, struggle sessions, cultural revolution, it was the last emperor had the, if you remember that, they had the emperor go through in a sympathetic way, of course, to the communists.
They forced the emperor to come to terms with his pro-Japanese activities.
tim pool
What have we here?
The Dude Abides says Tim is a fellow Illinoisian.
The word is justified.
Hookers be trippin'.
Yeah, I don't know.
It was like hooker meant hookin'.
I don't know.
Those are the words.
You know, it is funny that there's still regional terms.
We mostly sound the same, like dialects are disappearing.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
But there are still words like bubbler, curb, gym shoes.
We say gym shoes in Chicago.
I guess that's not a thing in a lot of places.
They say sneakers or something like that.
tom fitton
Right.
tim pool
Gym shoes.
hannah claire brimelow
We said sneakers in New England growing up, or at least I did.
tim pool
You know what a bubbler is?
tom fitton
Yeah, I don't know.
hannah claire brimelow
It's like a water fountain, but I said water fountain in New England.
tim pool
I don't know about you.
phil labonte
Yeah, water fountain.
tim pool
Yeah.
You have that?
You call them bubblers?
phil labonte
No, they're fountains in New England.
hannah claire brimelow
Bubblers is Midwest, I think.
tim pool
No, bubblers is like Cape Cod or something.
phil labonte
Oh, is it?
hannah claire brimelow
I didn't know that.
tim pool
Yeah, let's double check.
Bubbler.
phil labonte
I can't really recall.
I called it a fountain when I was growing up.
Pretty sure.
tim pool
Uh, let's see.
A bubbler is a drinking fountain in which the water is forced in a stream from a small vertical nozzle.
Really?
What is bubbler slang?
I heard it was, uh, Boston Providence area.
That's what it says.
There you go.
I knew some people from Cape Cod and they said bubbler.
And, uh, then there's pop.
Do you guys say pop?
phil labonte
Pop is like Ohio, definitely.
Midwest.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, so does New England, but then I think the South, maybe it's Texas, there are certain regions where everything is a Coke.
phil labonte
Yeah, South Carolina, everything's a Coke.
That was when I was growing up.
My mom's from South Carolina, and when we go down there for the summer or to visit family and stuff, everything was a Coke.
You would get an orange Coke.
tom fitton
Do we get a Sprite Coke?
hannah claire brimelow
Like what kind of Coke do you want?
phil labonte
It was a cherry Coke, which is a thing, but you could get an orange Coke and you'd come back with like a Fanta.
tim pool
That happened to me when I went to LA for a skateboarding trip, and it was me and this other dude from Chicago and these two guys from I think somewhere south, I don't know where.
And so the one guy walks into the, there's like a team manager and he's like, he's like, Hey, can I get a Coke?
And he's like, I don't got any Coke.
And he's like, Oh yeah, you do.
And he's like, I don't got any Coke, dude.
And then I walked in and I was like, yo, can I get a pop?
unidentified
And he's like, What are you guys talking about?
tim pool
And then I was like, I understand we say pop, we say soda.
I was like, a soda.
And he's like, you want a soda?
Yeah, you can have whatever soda you want.
And then the other guy was like, yeah, that's what I was asking.
And he's like, you called it a Coke.
And he's like, oh, we call it all Coke.
And I was like, wow, this is trippy.
Bring people from different parts of the country together and they can't speak English anymore.
hannah claire brimelow
That's a good, it should be, go regionalism.
I think that's good for culture.
tom fitton
I think it's great.
tim pool
Legama says, Tim, please double down and call her a whore, like you are from New Jersey.
Whore?
No, I always liked Danny DeVito.
Whore.
H-O-O-R.
unidentified
A whore.
tim pool
I was not trying to insult her.
hannah claire brimelow
I think you were insulting feminism, not her.
tim pool
I wasn't insulting anybody.
I was just like, and you know, someone said, sex-positive feminism, Tim, you didn't realize
I'm like, no, no, I'm saying, like, I didn't expect that, like, growing up as a kid, when they talked about women having the right to work and all that stuff, that the end result was going to be, when I was an adult, they were going to be begging to be, to be hookers.
Like, they desperately, you made the, you made the point perfectly, Anna Claire.
They're like, I make more money doing OnlyFans than I did as a nurse.
And it's like, yes, but you could just be a nurse.
You don't need to make that money.
They're choosing to be prostitutes.
phil labonte
How much more?
If it was like, oh, I make like 50 grand more.
It's like, you really need that 50 grand?
tim pool
Well, like, apparently some of these stories are, like, they go from making three, like, four or five thousand a month to, you know, like, twenty thousand a month.
hannah claire brimelow
And I believe them.
Like, I'm sure there's a lot of money in it.
It's just a question of, like, is that worth the cons here?
Like, your dignity.
Could you look your, you know, children in the eye when you get older?
Like, there is a cost that you are paying.
It just may not be financial.
It's much more social.
phil labonte
I think a lot of women don't realize the social stigma that comes along with it.
You hear a lot of women that are getting to the point where they don't want to do adult entertainment anymore and they have a hard time finding anyone that wants to be in a family with them or whatever.
tom fitton
What about that politician in Virginia?
Didn't she win?
hannah claire brimelow
I am looking at this right now and I can't find any confirmation.
phil labonte
Really?
What is that?
hannah claire brimelow
There was someone on staff sent me saying that P. Diddy has been arrested, the diddler has been caught.
tim pool
It's on Twitter.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
I don't see any confirmation.
hannah claire brimelow
I'm not seeing any confirmation.
The People magazine is reporting that he was maybe, possibly, but not confirmed on this plane.
But there is an old article from the New York Times, I think from like 2001, of him getting arrested in Miami, and I think that might be confusing.
phil labonte
Ah, okay.
tim pool
Yeah.
Rumor circulating that Diddy was arrested, but don't know that's true.
hannah claire brimelow
No confirmation.
tim pool
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tom fitton
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unidentified
All right.
hannah claire brimelow
I'm Hannah Clare Brimelow.
It's been really fun to be here tonight.
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Phil, it's so good to see you.
I feel like it's been a while.
phil labonte
It's good to see you, too.
You know, when I walked in, I saw you in the furry suit.
I thought that it was like an actual furry suit, like you were going to throw up the hood.
hannah claire brimelow
I'm slowly turning into a stuffed animal.
That's me.
phil labonte
I am Phil that remains on Twix.
I'm Phil that remains official on Instagram.
The band is All That Remains.
You can follow us on Apple Music, Spotify, Pandora, Amazon Music, YouTube, you know, the Internet.
And don't forget, the left lane is for crime.
tom fitton
Glad you're back, Phil.
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tom fitton
I'm ready to go to the after show when you are, Tim.
tim pool
We will see you all over at TimCast.com in a couple, in about a minute.
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