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Yo!
So a bunch of people, there's a TPUSA event with Kyle Rittenhouse, and the far left is attacking people.
Chasing down people.
We've got the video here from Julio Rosas, and we will play it for you now.
I have not yet seen it.
unidentified
I have not seen it.
man.
Fuck that, fuck that, fuck that, fuck that.
Communists!
No justice, nigga!
tim pool
No justice!
unidentified
No peace!
No justice!
No justice, no peace.
tim pool
I don't think people understand what that means, no justice, no peace.
You know what it means?
ian crossland
It means if there's no justice, I'm not gonna let there be any peace.
tim pool
That's not what it means.
ian crossland
Well, that's what I mean when I say it.
unidentified
What do you mean?
tim pool
These people are saying, we will not allow justice, we will not allow peace.
Oh.
And I think what happens is, like, the delicate sensibility of liberals is, they must be saying that if there is no justice, there won't be peace.
That's literally not what they're saying.
They're saying, no justice, no peace!
unidentified
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
We do not want justice, we do not want peace.
Yeah.
And I learned this when I was at Occupy Wall Street, and I asked them, and they told me.
And I went, huh.
My soft, delicate, liberal sensibilities assumed you were saying, we will not give you peace if you will not give us justice.
And they were laughing.
They were like, no.
libby emmons
It means we won't give you justice and we won't give you peace.
There will be neither.
tim pool
It's literal.
They're saying no justice, no peace.
What if someone said no smoking, no skateboarding?
Would we assume they're saying, if you don't allow us to smoke, we won't allow you to skate?
No, they're saying no to both of them!
libby emmons
No milk, no bread.
ian crossland
That would be, if there were two sentences, it would mean neither, but if it's no milk, no bread.
If there's a comma, then it would indicate that, if then, I believe.
Grammatically?
tim pool
No, no, no, even with a comma.
The statement is outright, if I said, Like, no flip-flops, no shorts.
I am not saying you have to wear flip-flops and shorts at the same time.
libby emmons
No shirt, no shoes, no service.
tim pool
I am not saying, I am not saying, if you do not wear flip-flops, I will not allow you to wear shorts.
That is not what the phrase no flip-flops, no shorts means.
ian crossland
But no shirt, no shoes, no service does mean if you don't wear shirts or shoes, you're not going to get service.
unidentified
Yes.
libby emmons
Right, but it doesn't mean no shirts or no shoes.
clint russell
I'm gonna be honest, I always thought it meant- It's both.
I thought it always meant no milk, no cookies.
Like it, it was, I only am gonna have cookies if I also have milk.
I, if you're right, that's horrifying.
tim pool
Liberals probably think it means, if there's no justice, we will not let you have peace.
What the far leftists have outright said, as long as I've known them, they were like, are you stupid?
libby emmons
We didn't say that.
tim pool
I know a guy who's a far leftist and I've known for a long time and he was active in the hacker community.
And we were talking a few years ago, in person, in Boston.
And I said, what happened to you guys?
You don't support free speech anymore.
And he laughed and said, we never did.
And I said, what are you talking about?
That was like the big thing in the hacker community.
And he's like, no, we wanted to speak freely because we're not allowed to.
Now that we can, we thank you for you helping us.
And now we will shut you down.
ian crossland
Jeez, that's villainous.
tim pool
This is exactly what they say in their meetings.
I have been to a ton of their direct action meetings.
I have gone to the homes of some of these activists.
I have told the story where they talk about, we're going to flip the pyramid over.
Do you know what that means, flip the pyramid over?
The delicate sensibilities of a liberal is, when the pyramid is flipped over, the people on top are on the bottom, and the working class are all now on the top.
ian crossland
Yeah, until they all fall down to the ground, and then there's just one or two of them left over at the top.
libby emmons
That's what happens every time, yeah.
tim pool
So when I asked them, but if you have a pyramid of bricks and you flip it over, the whole thing will crumble into a pile of disarray with only one person on top.
And they were like, right.
And I was like, Right?
And they're like, yes, us!
unidentified
No.
tim pool
And I was like, wait, wait, wait, wait.
You're not saying to put the working class on top.
You're saying flip the pyramid over so that the people on the bottom crumble down as the system collapses with you on the top of the pile.
And they're like, yes!
libby emmons
Yes.
tim pool
It was not a secret!
That's why they were saying smash, burn, destroy!
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
This is why they- look, these people who are out here protesting and screaming no justice, no peace have no idea what they're doing.
ian crossland
Yeah, I know, I felt that.
tim pool
The far leftists have a system where they use red light, green light- red, yellow, and green light, the way they describe these direct actions.
What they'll do is, in the private meeting of seven people, these are the higher-ups who are organizing and they're smarter, They say, here is our green section, here's our yellow section, here's our red.
Red's very small, green is medium, and I'm sorry, green is large, yellow's medium.
The red group are actively engaged in conflict with police that will incite violence.
The yellow group act as shields to keep cops away from our direct action.
The green section are the sacrificial lambs that must get arrested for it.
So what the red people do, and they plan this and they tell you this, We are going to march in New York City.
We are going to tell people on campus it's to save the whales.
Some hokey dokey bullshit.
We want to save trees.
This innocent black man was killed by police.
Will you march?
There's no violence.
We're just going to march down the street.
That's the green section, this block.
The red deployment of direct action, Black Block, whatever they would call it, we call it Antifa now, but they called it the Black Block, wear hoodies and masks, they move into the middle of the crowd, they're shorter or they crouch low, and then they chuck a brick at a cop.
The police then immediately start breaking up the crowd of doofy college students who have no idea what's going on.
The doofy college students get arrested and they're going, Why am I being arrested?
What do I do?
Then they're locked up in jail in a tight cell with 50 people crying, 18 year old girls in college and young men.
And then the direct action people who intentionally go along with them go, you see what police do?
Do you see how bad they are?
You didn't even do anything wrong and they arrested you.
Let's sing songs together to keep our spirits up.
And they cult build in the jail.
ian crossland
Radicalization process.
tim pool
Yes, intentionally.
Forcing people into a conflict with cops that they've architected, they've built, so that they can get innocent people arrested, so that those people will become radicalized.
That is how they do this.
That is what they're doing.
libby emmons
You can see it when you watch the protests.
And when you watched all the protests in 2020, it was so clear.
You would have, you know, the people who were doing the attempting, like the people who were trying to burn down the Portland federal building, right?
You had those people.
Then you had like the people who were standing there wearing all the same t-shirt being like, we're moms, we're moms and we're pro Antifa.
And then you would have the people who were like randomly chucking something and getting arrested.
tim pool
And then the moms would go, I'm being arrested and I'm just a mom.
libby emmons
Yes, I'm just a mom.
ian crossland
And the moms were the yellow.
libby emmons
The yellow moms.
tim pool
And they weren't even moms.
They weren't even moms.
libby emmons
Nope.
tim pool
Yep.
Like back when this happened, I think it was probably Andy, someone identified one of the far leftists as just like a single, you know, harlot leftist woman.
libby emmons
Yeah, he also uncovered that year there was a woman who vocally spoke about how excited she was to get an abortion.
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clint russell
Jesus.
tim pool
Yep.
clint russell
Scary, man.
ian crossland
Do you think that McCarthyism went far enough?
tim pool
I don't know enough about it because it's been romanticized and villainized and it's just like... It's been romanticized on both sides to a certain extent.
ian crossland
I thought it was horrible and evil and then lately people are like, didn't go far enough and I'm like, ha ha ha, and now I'm like...
If we do nothing and communists just slowly alter our system, that's not good.
libby emmons
Well, the thing is, guilt by association is always a bad thing.
tim pool
The communists in China are literally buying our country out.
You get people who are just like, nah, let them do it.
ian crossland
Guilt by association is not good.
I agree with you.
libby emmons
Yeah, that's always a bad thing.
serge du preez
When China literally tells you the Belt and Road Initiative, and they go and buy everything in Africa, and they buy all the land they can in America, and they make all the business dealings, and they basically set up a loan-sharking situation with all these different countries around the world, it becomes a thing like, well, why are we letting them buy this much farmland in the United States?
Like, for real.
I understand, I get it.
You have to let people come to this country and buy stuff, I get it, but it's not, it's not the same thing.
Like, this is like, this is an explicit initiative.
They say they want to do these things, they want to take over, they want to be in control.
It's like, I don't even think, I think China's a bit of a paper tiger in a lot of ways, but I also think, like, we still shouldn't be letting them buy tons of pharma in the United States.
tim pool
But now I, now I understand.
Vietnam!
serge du preez
Yeah, Vietnam too.
tim pool
Not that the United States did good, but it's like, I can understand the sentiment from back then where it's like, holy fuck.
The communists are literally taking everything.
ian crossland
Dude, the Soviet Union must have been, like, from the American perspective in the 1940s and 50s and 60s, like, just knowing what was going on over there and how terrifying that would be to happen, like, just...
clint russell
I mean, domino theory is a compelling argument, but on the inverse of that, you have to decide whether or not you believe that free market capitalism ultimately prevails over command economies.
serge du preez
I think it does.
clint russell
I think it does too.
libby emmons
Why would it ultimately prevail?
What would make it ultimately prevail?
clint russell
Because it's far more productive to allow people to create.
I mean, the whole reason that America has been so much more innovative is because of that.
ian crossland
But I don't think free market means anyone can do anything.
There's rules to a free market.
clint russell
Enforcement of property rights, primarily.
ian crossland
And can corporations own property?
How is that possible?
libby emmons
Of course corporations can own property.
ian crossland
They didn't even exist 150 years ago.
Yeah, but you can still buy stuff.
The modern corporation was like 1850-something.
libby emmons
You can still buy stuff as a group.
tim pool
Well, the American codification of corporation is different from the corporation.
The corporation has existed for a very long time.
libby emmons
Yeah, 14, 15, 16 years.
And if the four of us got together and decided to buy property, that's legal.
ian crossland
Okay, the modern corporation would have been in the 16th century.
Yeah, that's true, technically.
But what about megacorps?
libby emmons
What is a corporation other than the people who are involved in the corporation?
ian crossland
The legal shielding of it, too.
So, like, if they all go bankrupt, no one has to go bankrupt.
unidentified
I mean, you could do legal liability.
tim pool
It goes back to ancient Rome.
ian crossland
Wow, wow.
And then the modern corporation was the 16th century in England.
tim pool
Um, actually, I think the corporations existed as long as humans have existed.
libby emmons
What's a corporation?
It's an agreement.
tim pool
A body deal from Latin corpus, a body of people who are working together.
libby emmons
And even if you look in the Bible, like families have shared land and they work the land together.
Like going back to Adam and Eve, Cain and Abel, they worked the land together.
tim pool
Corporations were in the Roman empire going back to BC.
And after the fall of the Roman empire, there wasn't much going on until the middle ages when the resurrection of corporations came in the 11th to 14th centuries.
Uh, there you go, look at that.
serge du preez
I think, uh, you might be getting caught up on this whole idea of, like, people say corporations are people.
It's just, like, in a legal sense.
It's just they can help- be held culpable, like a person can, for the- for the way of the court- for the court to work, for the court to function.
tim pool
And they should go to jail.
serge du preez
There should be- There's nothing wrong, yeah.
tim pool
There should be corporate suspension if a corporation, like, poisons people.
serge du preez
Yeah.
tim pool
Then there should be a, your corporation is hereby shut down for two years.
clint russell
Well, and, and at the current paradigm is that many corporations don't even have civil liability, much less criminal liability, particularly when it comes to the vaccines.
So that is a totally unworkable paradigm.
I mean, that, that ultimately opens them up and not, not only that, but they, it allows them to basically have exclusive rights to the profit while the taxpayer picks up the R and D bill.
And then there's the judicial system is now shielding them from any sort of, not just criminal, but civil liability.
It is a racket on top of a racket, and that is one thing that RFK Jr.
is really good on.
tim pool
I think we're headed for a dark age, maybe.
ian crossland
Oh, I was wondering about that.
libby emmons
I was thinking about that myself.
ian crossland
Because we're in a golden age.
libby emmons
Yeah, and we're losing so much knowledge all the time.
We're just losing knowledge all the time.
I look at this with the kids, and they can't read cursive most of the time.
tim pool
They stop teaching.
libby emmons
Right, and so they can't read it.
So how are they going to read the old stuff?
tim pool
You think about ancient Rome from the Republic to the Empire lasted for a very very long time and then once it fell you got the Dark Ages and it's remarkable how it was just like rampant barbarism and insanity for a thousand years.
libby emmons
We did have technological advancements during that period of time like in the Dark Ages they invented the mirror which is kind of cool and we wouldn't have satellites.
tim pool
You sure about that?
libby emmons
Yeah.
It was like in 1200.
Yeah, it wasn't like a total backward turn.
And also the wheelbarrow was invented during the Dark Ages.
And also we did have the... We lost plumbing, though.
We lost a lot of stuff.
serge du preez
We lost a lot of stuff.
libby emmons
Yeah, like really shit went backwards.
serge du preez
That's important to note, though.
libby emmons
And that's what I've been thinking about, too.
It's like in the South Park movie, and nobody knows how to do shit.
That's what we have now.
Nobody knows how to do shit.
Like, I have a house, and there's stuff that definitely needs to be done to it, and I don't fucking know how to do it, and I can't find anyone to help me do it.
ian crossland
I'm just gonna have to, like, figure it out.
tim pool
So perhaps the modern mirror was invented using, what do they do, silver, nitrate, and glass?
But mirrors have existed for 8,000 plus years.
unidentified
Really?
libby emmons
Because I was looking this up, and they invented the mirror in, like, 1200.
The one that we use for satellites.
tim pool
But maybe that's like they pour, I think it's like silver nitrate on glass and then it dries.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
That specific process, perhaps, but I like the way Google searched it and they're like, well, what is the earliest known manufactured mirrors go back 8000 years.
ian crossland
Yeah, makes sense.
I mean, staring into what pools of water was, yeah, the story of a narcissist.
libby emmons
Well, yeah, a narcissist.
tim pool
Yeah, but a manufactured mirror that people would hold was 8,000 years ago.
serge du preez
Yeah, Chinese had mirrors, I think, back in the day.
Lin Chat mentioned that, too.
ian crossland
Regarding, like, I think about a lot of civilization in the game, you go into golden ages, and then you can go into a dark age, and, like, you still progress in a dark age, it's just much, much slower.
And golden ages are, you can still fail, you can still be conquered in a golden age, but you're still in just a heightened state of production and communication in a golden age.
So we have an opportunity right now to propel our golden age, if we keep coming together and working.
libby emmons
Well, we have to maintain some form of knowledge, and we have to recognize that we can't have all of our forms of knowledge be so easily erasable.
If you think about it, the most ancient forms of knowledge that we have would be tablets, carved tablets, cuneiform stuff, the Rosetta Stone, that kind of thing.
And those could be smashed, but what do we have now?
All of our human information is on the internet.
What happens if that goes down for real?
tim pool
The first mirrors were obsidian.
ian crossland
Nice!
libby emmons
Oh, that makes sense.
ian crossland
The black rock.
tim pool
Then brass.
clint russell
That's cool.
libby emmons
Well, okay, so yeah, the modern mirror that we could not have satellites without was invented, what, by the Florentines or something in something like 1200?
Yeah.
So that's what I'm talking about there.
Yeah, that's wild.
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, the Middle Ages, with improvements in glass-making technology in France, allowed them to actually create the modern mirror.
unidentified
Nice.
tim pool
With glass and silver and stuff.
But I wonder if that's what's gonna happen, like, the American Republic is gonna shift to the American Empire, Donald Trump will be the first emperor of America or something, or it could be shit and it could be Hillary Clinton, I don't know.
ian crossland
I think it was Woodrow Wilson.
tim pool
Yeah, no, like, we're still the Republic.
The Roman Republic was faltering with shitheads before it became the Empire.
ian crossland
That's true.
tim pool
Right, so maybe it's Trump, and then he's like, you know, I can't leave because the Democrats, they're gonna...
Kill this country!
And then you end up with Trump staying in power or something.
ian crossland
He's got to understand the Sword of Damocles metaphor.
He must understand that.
tim pool
Of course he does.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
But maybe a hundred years from now, the world just shatters and it becomes like the Middle Ages or the Dark Ages.
clint russell
Well, this is why libertarians rail against central banking so much, is because exactly what I described earlier, that 95% purity was maintained for 300 years, and then over the next 100 or so years, in the empire phase, is when it came to an end.
So I think we're somewhere in that trajectory.
I don't know exactly where.
ian crossland
You know, it was overexpansion that caused them to fail too.
So if we could retract our global presence, that could be a huge leap towards maintaining integrity.
clint russell
Well, that's exactly the libertarian argument, but this is where I get accused of being told, you know, I'm trying to avoid every fight.
I just think that there are certain fights that are simply unwinnable.
And when you're talking about nuclear powers, those are unwinnable fights.
We have to avoid nuclear war.
We have to.
libby emmons
Well, what if our enemies don't want to avoid it?
clint russell
Well, I'd still rather us not all die, you know?
libby emmons
But if our enemies don't want to avoid it, why would we not all die?
clint russell
Well, yeah, no, we would all die if they fire, but I mean the whole concept of mutually assured destruction is that because we would, they won't.
libby emmons
Right, but if they're for sure that we would never use it.
clint russell
Yeah, no, I understand.
That's not a great situation.
You have to maintain the threat, because otherwise mutually assured destruction doesn't stand.
unidentified
Exactly.
clint russell
But you also don't want to be overly provocative with nuclear powers unnecessarily.
ian crossland
They call that meekness, when you have strength, but you don't use it.
And they say the meek will inherit the earth.
libby emmons
It's the people- Well, sure.
Having the arsenal- Speak softly, but carry a big stick.
ian crossland
Yeah.
Yeah, it's important that we project strength.
clint russell
Well, I don't know.
We've done a lot of that.
serge du preez
And it's done good for us!
ian crossland
Well, we're not supposed to be using it at every turn.
We're just supposed to let people know, like, if you step out of line, it's not going to be good for you and it's going to be good for us, so don't do it.
clint russell
At a certain point, projection of strength becomes untenable because you no longer have the financial power to do so.
And we're swiftly approaching that point.
So we have to ask ourselves, are we going to face reality and realize that we can no longer be the policemen of the world?
Or are we going to continue to bluff and bluster ourselves into World War III, in which case the empire comes crumbling down violently?
I opt to be realistic and withdraw from the political sphere on the global level and focus on domestic politics and focusing on our economy and our people.
I think that's the answer that provides the greatest hope for not just peace, but also prosperity.
And I think that anything outside of that paradigm is extraordinarily destructive.
ian crossland
Do you think we need a global police system?
clint russell
I do not.
ian crossland
But what about, like, barbarians?
clint russell
I mean, we still have national defense, Ian.
I mean, I'm not talking about opening the border.
I'm not an open borders libertarian.
I'm also not talking about abolishing the police, necessarily.
I would like to see it privatized.
But, you know, there's still something to be said for law and order in terms of structure.
libby emmons
Wait, privatized like the way that fire insurance companies used to be in the colonial days?
So that, like, you can't call police unless you pay for it?
clint russell
I mean, you would still have charity organizations that allow for those that can't afford it to receive services, but... So, charity organizations?
libby emmons
What do you mean?
unidentified
Like, so if you're poor and you can't afford the police... Well, for instance, firefighting is primarily done by volunteers in America.
libby emmons
Right, but if you, let's say, let's say you're poor and you can't afford to pay your private... Like, around here, you sort of pay for everything a la carte.
You pay for your garbage pickup, you pay for... It's perfect.
tim pool
You get a gun.
Right, so if you can't pay for it... And then when someone breaks into your house, you shoot them and kill them, and that person's dead, and so you don't gotta worry about it because ain't no cops showing up anyway.
libby emmons
Well, what if that person had cop insurance, and then somebody's showing up for you because that person was covered under cop insurance?
You shoot them.
You just shoot the cops that show up.
tim pool
Anyone who's trying to break into my house to take me by force against my will gets a bullet.
libby emmons
Alright, well, that's one way to handle it.
This is a great society you got going, so let's hear more of it.
tim pool
Yeah, the libertarian private police system doesn't make sense.
Not that a monopoly on violence is the best system there could possibly be, but this idea... I was talking to Dr. Rechtenwald about this, and he had literally no answer, and it was the stupidest thing... I'm sorry, man.
ian crossland
What was the argument?
tim pool
He said police should be private and I said, how does that work?
And he said, you pay for the local police.
And I said, okay, so like, what if I live in one town and a guy from another town comes to my town and robs my house?
He's like, you tell your police.
And I'm like, so then what do my police do about it?
Do they go to the neighboring town's police department and tell them like, you got to get this guy to give his shit back.
And he's like, I don't know.
And I'm like.
clint russell
But that's how it works now.
There's jurisdictions.
tim pool
Yes, but it's all under one.
So if one police department can't get a job done, it escalates.
And there is a problem where there is a highest level where it can't escalate beyond this, but reducing it down to a molecular level results in two police departments declaring themselves the arbiters of justice and then just shooting at each other.
clint russell
Yeah, I mean, you still have to have reciprocal arrangements with different jurisdictions to allow for this, so I think there's answers.
It's not simple.
I mean, we're talking about replacing the entire, you know, law and order system of America.
It's not easy.
ian crossland
Like a mesh network?
tim pool
It's not possible.
Either you don't have police or you have police.
ian crossland
Well, the metaphor is like the mesh network of your internet versus a centralized server.
And that's like the centralized server is the overarching police state that's doing jurisdiction coordination.
Or you could have a decentralized mesh if you could somehow coordinate it.
And it would just be a matter of making sure that all these networks are talking to each other.
But you need electricity.
tim pool
It wouldn't work because what's going to happen is, and this is already technically true, but there are limitations.
If I have a private police department and I am very rich and I go to my private police department and I say, look, this guy's causing me problems.
I need you to take care of it.
I pay you a lot of money for this.
And they're going to say, guys, this is one of our biggest clients.
We cannot lose him.
He's funding like 17% of the department.
ian crossland
You just prove it to me, man.
tim pool
Go down and arrest this guy.
So they go down to this neighboring town and they go to the suspected criminal
and they say, we're putting you under arrest.
And he immediately runs to his kitchen, calls the police, says, guys, need you to come here.
And these guys, one of our subscribers is being harassed by some neighboring department.
They come down and then my department is like, they go on the radio and they're like, what do we do?
And they're like, we cannot lose pool.
You will lose your job.
Arrest them.
Do not let anyone stop you.
And then he's like, I pay you guys, protect me.
I don't know what they're talking about.
Then these cops are negotiating.
What are you talking about?
Then my cops are like, this guy's accused of a crime and we got evidence.
We're arresting him.
He's going to stand trial.
And then his cops go, you're not touching the guy.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
He pays our bills.
Well, my guy pays my bills.
Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang.
clint russell
Well, it's not- Yeah, that's not better.
Well, it's not particularly different from the current situation.
You'll already see that with- Actually, it is.
tim pool
The current situation is, if I have a problem and I call the police, my town calls the other department and says, this is what happened.
And then they say, neither of these individuals pay our bills, so let's just resolve this so it reduces conflict.
clint russell
My point is that right now, the people that get the most special treatment are usually government officials or policemen themselves.
I mean, you still have corruption that exists in the public system as well.
That's all I'm saying.
tim pool
Exactly.
And that's why I said, it's not like our current system is the best there could be, but certainly a private police system, I would be more in favor of abolishing police before setting up private police.
clint russell
Oh, that's interesting.
tim pool
Well, you can't have a private adjudication.
It's impossible.
clint russell
Well, why not?
You could still have just... In terms of it being mandated, it's just voluntary agreements as to what the rules are in a town.
Right.
tim pool
If there is no agreed upon in law...
Authorization for what gives someone the right to enforce the laws, then... No, but that's what I'm describing, though.
clint russell
I'm saying that you would have that structured based off of your town, but people would live there because they have voluntarily agreed to that essential, like, the social contract that they talk about when it comes to all Americans, well, it could actually apply because you're taking it down to a lower-level town.
tim pool
No, no, no, it literally can't.
clint russell
Why not?
tim pool
If there's a private police force, I just go to the chief and I say, I'll increase your budget by a million dollars if you go kill some guy for me.
clint russell
Well, I understand.
tim pool
What are you gonna do about it?
clint russell
Yeah, you can still have corruption, of course.
tim pool
But corruption?
That's just market politics!
ian crossland
I think I'd rather have corruption in the hands of the government than in the hands of the wealthy.
tim pool
Well, it's really about neither, so how about we just abolish police and everyone gets a gun?
ian crossland
I mean, everybody should be able to get a gun anyway.
I kind of like police.
tim pool
No cops.
None of them.
No private.
And then we should have guns.
And then what I do is I hire a posse.
ian crossland
That's the problem is you got to go to sleep sometimes.
So you need police to guard you while you're sleeping.
tim pool
The point is, the reason why we opposed abolishing the police is that the police normalize things for the working class.
The ultra wealthy have GF4S and Securitas.
Poor people have, I need to call the police when something happens.
libby emmons
Right.
tim pool
But now the police have abandoned them.
Wealthy elites and people like AOC still get their high quality private security.
libby emmons
They still just have their security people.
So when they go out there saying, abolish the police, they don't mean for themselves.
They just mean for the rest of us so that nothing can, you know, nobody can- Are people still- We gotta go to callers!
Protect their own homes.
ian crossland
Do people still say to abolish the cops?
Is that still going on?
libby emmons
Oh yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
serge du preez
ACAB all day.
People say it every day.
ian crossland
That's a line in the song me and Toby did.
We should play that later.
serge du preez
Let's get those- You made a song where you said ACAB?
tim pool
Let's get those callers.
serge du preez
Bruh.
unidentified
Alright.
serge du preez
Whipsy, what's going on?
How are ya?
tim pool
Banksy's little brother.
unidentified
It goes, ACAB hashtag back the blue.
ian crossland
What the fuck is going on?
Something like that.
It's really good.
You're gonna love it.
unidentified
What up?
serge du preez
Hey, whoopsie, how you doing?
unidentified
Yeah, hi, thanks for taking my call.
Great show, great panel tonight.
I'd just like to ask one question to the panel, really, and that is...
With the unannounced surprise visit of Obama to the UK this Monday, it personally to me is clearly signalling that Biden has never been in presidential control.
What do you think was discussed and what implication does this have for both the UK and US upcoming elections?
tim pool
I do not believe this means that Biden was not in control.
It means that Barack Obama is meeting with someone in the UK.
We don't know.
It's impossible to speculate.
Obama's not been public facing on anything relevant.
For all we know, he's meeting about a book deal.
We just have literally no idea.
clint russell
Yeah, I'll be honest with you, man.
I'm not at all certain.
There was rumors that, I think it was Middleton may be deceased, that the King may be dead.
Like, there was a bunch of rumors floating around.
I have no idea what the truth is.
tim pool
Dude, this Middleton shit's getting crazier and crazier.
What is it?
Someone at the hospital tried hacking to steal the medical records to figure out what happened to her.
They put out this video where it's Prince William and Kate walking, but it fucking does not look like Kate Middleton.
And there's Christmas lights up.
Instantly, everyone was like, those are Christmas lights.
This is an old video.
And then someone was like, that didn't even look like her.
And I'm like, it literally does not look like her.
ian crossland
And then there's a picture of her?
tim pool
Other people were like, she's not wearing makeup and it's a grainy footage.
Calm down.
It's her.
And I'm like, it's not proof!
Shut the fuck up!
I don't care if you think it's her or not.
I'm just saying, that's not proof.
Have her walk up to a microphone and be like, I'm getting milk, leave me the fuck alone.
I'll be like, there she is.
But they're not doing that.
Someone tried hacking the computers to get her records.
Obama going to the UK while the king may be dead?
unidentified
Shit.
ian crossland
Has he not shown his face lately?
tim pool
Or Middleton.
Maybe something crazy happened with Russia, dude.
Maybe Donald Trump is actually the real prime minister and he's pretending.
I'm kidding.
ian crossland
By the way, Barron's looking healthy.
tim pool
I like that guy.
You saw that guy who said he's fair game now?
ian crossland
Yeah, and then he deleted it.
libby emmons
That was really funny.
tim pool
Yeah, because everyone was calling him out.
I said he was thirsty as fuck.
Fair game for what?
libby emmons
Well, of course he meant fair game to be attacked.
He had some media attack bloodlust in his heart.
tim pool
He's 18, he's fair game.
libby emmons
Yeah, we ran a little bit of a torque headline that said, you know, deletes after lusting after.
tim pool
So there is a Kate Middleton body double who like gave an interview.
You saw that?
unidentified
Yeah.
libby emmons
Yeah.
And she said it wasn't her.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I, you know, it's funny cause when this, this whole thing started and it was like, Kate Middleton's going in for some sort of abdominal surgery.
I was like, maybe she's having a hysterectomy or something.
Cause sometimes like, you know, that's what you do if you don't want to have more kids, but it seems a little extreme.
Or it's cancer.
Cancer going on or something like that and then it was like I figured you know that takes a long time to recover from abdominal surgery So I thought she'll be out of the public eye for a while But then when you started getting these like weird photos, and then she's saying that she tweaked them herself But you're not actually seeing her say that and her face was her face is from the Vogue magazine cover Yeah, dude It's kind of weird like what's going on but also World War 3 baby the simulation is breaking down let's go!
clint russell
They were saying that she wanted to get a divorce maybe?
libby emmons
If something really did happen to her like they would they would get so much money the royal family you know they would like have a whole big royal funeral they would it would be a huge outpouring it would be like a windfall so why would they not Well, I don't know, but maybe she's in recovery.
tim pool
Whipsy, is there anything else you wanted to add to that?
serge du preez
Yeah, that turned into a royal discussion there.
I wasn't sure that was what you were after, but anything to add?
unidentified
Just that I think at the moment, personally, I think it's the media hype surrounding the royal family and the stuff that's going on, vice versa, with Harry and Meghan and everything.
Personally, I think there probably is some sort of serious illness, but it's not something that she wants public knowledge and prefers to keep private.
libby emmons
Maybe it was appendicitis?
Do you think she could have had appendicitis or something like that?
unidentified
Possibly.
I'm more going along as a hysterectomy sort of thing, like yourself.
Maybe it's just complications because, you know, abdominal surgery.
She had three children.
It does affect people as you get into the later life in your 40s and 50s.
Maybe that's the situation that's caused.
Yeah, I know.
We're purely open to speculation.
I think we've just got to wait until we see what happens in the near future.
serge du preez
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
serge du preez
Hey, TrueMate, thanks for calling in.
ian crossland
Yeah, thanks for bringing that up.
serge du preez
Appreciate it.
unidentified
Thanks very much.
Cheers.
Thanks.
Bye-bye.
See ya.
serge du preez
Alright, now these names I've got to, like, scroll to find.
SecondhandVegan.
What's going on?
How are you?
unidentified
Hey guys, I'm doing well.
How are you?
ian crossland
Good.
tim pool
Well.
We're doing well.
unidentified
Thanks for taking my call.
I guess my question is kind of for the panel slash mostly Tim, I guess.
For the past three weeks, the entire city of Rochester, New York has been drinking from a reservoir which had a dead body floating.
We just found that out yesterday.
libby emmons
Oh my goodness.
That is really gross.
clint russell
Bummer.
serge du preez
Sounds like New York.
ian crossland
Get a well!
tim pool
Just kidding.
serge du preez
Just kidding.
unidentified
So my question is, does that make everyone in the city a cannibal now?
tim pool
No!
libby emmons
No, but it does sound pretty disturbing, man.
tim pool
If you're drinking from a river and there's a body upstream, you don't know you're not a cannibal.
You're just drinking dirty water.
ian crossland
Right.
If something you do leads to someone's death, you're not necessarily a murderer, although you might still be considered a killer.
If you're not actively eating the human, you're not cannibalizing, even though you may have accidentally consumed it.
serge du preez
Are you concerned about this because you are vegan or secondhand vegan?
libby emmons
Or because you were drinking the water and it's kind of gross.
unidentified
Well, secondhand vegan means that I'm a meat eater, but... So the shop that I work at, we're pretty slow right now, and I was washing our trucks yesterday all day long, power washing them with the water, and then I came home and found out that there's been a dead body in the water for the past three weeks.
libby emmons
Three weeks!
tim pool
Well, a lot of people are probably gonna get sick.
A lot of diseases.
unidentified
This is why... Well, this one did chlorine in it, too.
tim pool
Yeah.
So maybe that's okay.
Out here, we have well water.
And so we don't have nothing to worry about.
unidentified
Yeah, I'm on well too.
tim pool
Yeah, see, you're good.
We've got this, uh, we're, we're getting the highest quality filtration systems installed at Freedomistan, three of them.
And so it's like, we, we told them like, Hey, we want a good filtration system.
And they said, okay, we'll come in and we'll install these.
And then I was like, is that the best they can do?
And then Allison was like, well, they have these better ones.
They're way more expensive.
I'm like, get the best!
clint russell
I said, we go on the attack and then we say that Kathy Hochul is a cannibal.
libby emmons
She is pretty gross and weird.
Yeah, I'm not a fan.
clint russell
I've always suspected she was a cannibal.
This just makes it proved.
tim pool
I heard a rumor that, you know, she eats people.
libby emmons
Really?
unidentified
Yeah.
I heard from a guy that heard from another guy that she ate people.
clint russell
This is how QAnon began.
tim pool
It's like, Clint goes, I bet she's a cannibal.
That wouldn't surprise me.
And I'm like, whoa, Ian, did you hear?
I heard this rumor that she's a cannibal.
ian crossland
Dude, Tim told me that he heard from a guy, from Clint, That she was a cannibal?
unidentified
No, no, no.
tim pool
At that point, you say, dude.
ian crossland
Dude, I knew a guy that heard from another guy?
unidentified
No, no.
tim pool
Here's the best part.
Then you go to Serge, and you tell Serge, dude, I heard this rumor that Cathy Hook was a cannibal.
And Serge goes, what?
Then I go to Libby and say, I heard this rumor that Cathy Hook was a cannibal.
And she goes, what?
And then Serge goes to Libby and says, did you hear that Cathy Hook was a cannibal?
And she goes, yes, I heard that too!
unidentified
Yep.
ian crossland
Confirmed.
Confirmation bias.
serge du preez
Confirmed.
clint russell
You're welcome, world.
serge du preez
A cannibal.
unidentified
Probably not a cannibal.
tim pool
Reza Aslan is a cannibal.
libby emmons
The scary part though is that with like, um, with AI and with the regurgitation machine, if we just put that in the internet, then the next thing you know, ChatGPT is telling everyone that Kathy Hochul's a cannibal.
tim pool
I mean... We should make a half-moon set for Freedomistan so we can launch the first show as if we're MSNBC and just act like the corporate president.
libby emmons
That would be really fun.
tim pool
Yeah, it'd be hilarious.
Did you hear that Donald Trump said that he was predicting a landslide in 49 states?
I mean, he's talking about killing untold millions.
I saw that from the Babylon Bee, I know, but that's the joke.
Killing untold millions.
libby emmons
All you really need is like a makeup person so that everyone just looks like that.
tim pool
This is what I should do.
When the left takes all those clips of me doing the 49 state landslide meme, because it was basically the Trump meme was like 49 state landslide, baby.
I should just be like, no, I was talking about Trump murdering all these people by triggering rock slides.
libby emmons
What are you talking about?
Yeah.
ian crossland
What do you think I was talking about?
tim pool
Yeah, I wasn't going to win.
I was going to go on a murderous rampage.
libby emmons
Trump has some space lasers.
He's teamed up with Elon Musk.
They're going to trigger some rock slides.
clint russell
Tim Cass Community, I'm calling upon you to go to Kathy Ockel's Wikipedia page.
unidentified
No.
Oh man, is that a good enough response?
tim pool
You will get sued into oblivion for that.
clint russell
It was a joke.
unidentified
You can go to Kathy Ockel's Wikipedia page, that's all you said.
clint russell
You're not a cannibal, Kathy, it's a joke.
tim pool
But if you instruct people to go and commit an act, Yeah, you're getting sued.
That's why I said no.
If you literally said to tell people to go do a thing, yeah, that's it.
clint russell
I retracted, government.
It was a fucking joke.
tim pool
It's not government, it's just going to sue you.
Because the issue is, her staff definitely monitors Wikipedia, they all do.
clint russell
Of course.
tim pool
They're going to see this, they're going to ask how it happened, they're going to find out you said it, and they're going to be like, Fuck this.
clint russell
No, I take it back.
I take it back.
It was just being playful.
Playful cannibalism.
unidentified
Should we go to the next part?
There was a point of being disavowed.
Anything else to add, friend?
Uh, no, that's it.
Kathy Hochul's definitely a cannibal, though.
Oh yeah, brother.
Cheers, man.
tim pool
Thanks for coming in.
unidentified
All right, let's talk to... I heard this rumor that Ian came in, right?
tim pool
Strummed out this tune, yeah?
And I said, that's a number one record.
unidentified
That's right.
clint russell
This tune, yeah?
unidentified
Rekker Morrison.
How you doing?
Rekker, yeah, Rekker Morrison.
Not sure.
Yeah, that's mine.
A long-time listener from Alberta.
Thanks for taking my call.
I have a three-part question.
It's too many parts.
By criminal migrants to seized territory, specifically property and homes, is it safe to say that the situation has changed from a passive invasion to an active invasion?
Secondly, with that, do you still trust that at least not a small portion of Democrats aren't actively committing treason, specifically on behalf of the CCP and Iran?
And finally, why do you trust a traitor who helps your enemies over your enemy directly just because he owns a house in Delaware?
ian crossland
Well, that's three questions, not three parts to one question.
Right.
tim pool
So the first thing I'd say is it's an invasion.
The second thing is there probably are people committing treason.
I'm looking at Adam Schiff.
I don't trust the guy.
I don't have any evidence to suggest he's actually committing treason.
I just say if he's anybody who's going to do it, this guy's got to be working with the CCP.
And my point about, say, Russia, China, Iran, North Korea, or Joe Biden is that Joe Biden has property in Delaware.
That means he very much would like to enjoy his property in Delaware.
Russia does not care at all about his property in Delaware.
So if these two people decide to go to war, I'm going to be like, well, I don't like Joe Biden.
I don't like Vladimir Putin.
Joe Biden's a shithead who affects me personally.
But at least I know that if Joe Biden wins, the peripheral damage from outside of his home will be minimized, which includes where I live.
Russia would nuke Delaware and the United States, and I happen to live in the United States, so I'm going to have to side with the shithead who's from the United States.
unidentified
Yeah.
serge du preez
I hope that was a good response.
It seems like it was a pretty measured response.
ian crossland
I was overloaded by the questions.
Was there one in particular you'd like me to focus on an answer or one that you wanted a little bit more on?
unidentified
Specifically, the first one is the main highlight of the criminal aliens now moving from just being passively invading to actively invading by seizing your territory.
ian crossland
It's one guy.
tim pool
Yeah, it was one guy.
It's all an invasion, but if you wanted to get serious and say passive versus an active, active invasion would be an organized group of people from some country, armed, planning to rip through the barricades.
I suppose it's fair to say that we're literally being invaded.
ian crossland
There's no reason to Yeah, I would say that the migration is a form of an invasion, but not necessarily an attack.
If they come armed, then you could say that they are attacking us, and that's completely different.
That's an addition, too.
Because you can have disarmed migrants invade.
Invade means to go from without to within, or whatever.
clint russell
And if you have tens of thousands of Chinese nationals that are coming across, which just happened in January, according to CBP, well, are any of them sleeper cells?
And if they're allowed to now, you know, legally acquire weaponry in America, that does seem pretty self-defeating.
I don't know at what point it becomes aggression, but it certainly seems perilous.
serge du preez
Yeah, anything else out of that, friend?
unidentified
Nope.
Best regards to all again.
ian crossland
You too, man.
tim pool
Thanks for calling in.
serge du preez
Cheers.
Likewise.
unidentified
See ya.
serge du preez
Alrighty.
And, uh, last but not least, we got Ex... Es... Esquivel.
Esquivel, how you doing?
unidentified
Good job, Serge.
Greetings from California, aka the Dark Ages.
Basically, I have a question for the whole panel.
Clint, I think you have a lot to provide for this, because it's about California.
I was born and raised here, and my family immigrated here from different countries, and we've been here for a couple generations, and we built a life for ourselves, and we worked really hard, and we had a lot of good times.
And over the pandemic, my whole immediate family fled the state, much like you, Clint.
They went to Idaho.
And me and my wife are going to be following them this summer, because I refuse.
I refuse to raise my family in this hellhole, so... Congrats, man.
I'm just curious.
Thank you.
I'm curious.
Should I wash my hands of California?
Because it's my home, and I love it.
And, you know, I just would hate to not be able to feel like I can come back here one day.
clint russell
Well, this is the debate that Tim and I were in earlier, basically, in that, like, I'm of the belief that there are certain fights that are unwinnable.
And California, as someone who spent over 30 years there, I decided that the only option for peaceful solutions was for me to flee to a state that was more free.
Tim is also right, though, that there is a point at which there is nowhere else to go, and that you have to put your foot in the fucking ground and fight back.
So I'm of the opinion, though, that California is- Well, these are not the same thing.
tim pool
You don't have to live in California to think the federal government should bring California to heel.
It's just that the solution to solving the problem of California is not living in it and waving a sign around, it's moving to an area where your vote has a bigger impact, like Pennsylvania or Ohio, voting for Donald Trump, and then hoping that Donald Trump brings them to heel.
ian crossland
Or inspiring the people of California from elsewhere.
A lot of times it's tough to change the system from within it, so if you can get out of the system and then inspire the people over there to change, that's a good way to go about it.
It's how they legalized weed.
tim pool
A lot of people say that you should stay where you are and fight to defend it because the Marxists will just take over, and we've danced around this issue, we've gone back and forth a little bit.
I think the position I'm at now is If you suffer and die in this place and you can't thrive, then you are not assisting in our efforts to fix things.
So if you were to move to the likes of West Virginia or Florida maybe, but I think West Virginia is the big opportunity.
That's why we're here.
Florida is super overcrowded.
There's a lot of leftists there, though it is very right-wing.
Texas needs it probably because they're actually a bit purple.
West Virginia is deep red, but West Virginia needs the economic development, so it needs smart, talented people who want to work hard.
If you move to these places, you have maximum opportunity for growth, and then if you become more powerful, you have a bigger family, that adds more power to this side of things.
clint russell
This actually ties in perfectly to my argument earlier about whether or not you believe that command economies versus free market economies ultimately prevail.
I think that you will see progress in California only when their system comes crumbling down because they are no longer honoring property rights.
You're already seeing mega corporations that are fleeing the state.
The economic consequences and the fallout have only begun to be felt.
So I think that's where the opportunity will come for people to actually have an awakening and perhaps decide to choose a different path, but we're not there yet.
unidentified
I mean, it's gonna have to go a lot longer, Ben, because so many people have left the state.
I think the last two years are the first years in a hundred years where they've lost over a hundred thousand people.
Yeah, man.
And, you know, it's actually kind of funny.
I joined, I just recently moved south of San Francisco, and I reached out on Facebook to a GOP group on Facebook, and it's just filled with old fogies with old ideas that They just, they're never gonna, they still think California is savable as it is right now, and I just can't help but laugh at them.
clint russell
Dude, you got my mom, my dad, my brother, almost everyone I know still lives there, man, and a lot of them are holding on to hope even though Gavin Newsom got recalled and then won by two-thirds of the fucking vote.
I'm like, I'm like, this guy is fucking straight out of, like, totalitarian, like, dictionary definition.
This guy's horrifying.
So, Yeah, man, it's gonna get a lot worse there before it gets better, that's my honest opinion.
unidentified
Abandon ship.
libby emmons
Yeah, I had the same feelings about New York City, which is where I lived for like 20 years and, you know, my mom was born in New York, my grandparents were born in New York, my son was born in New York.
I had similar feelings and then I really wanted to stay and stick it out and fight, but the damage that it was doing to my family was too great and I couldn't afford that.
I couldn't afford that damage.
And now looking at the city that I love so well, every year that goes by that they continue to deteriorate adds like another, you know, three or five years to the recovery time.
You know, when we, after COVID and Bill de Blasio, who was absolutely terrible, I thought, okay, the city needs like a decade.
It's going to take a decade to recover.
And now I'm thinking like, it's 20 years, you know, it's 20 years to recover.
tim pool
And then we were like, Libby, you got to come here.
libby emmons
And then I moved here.
Yeah, I did.
tim pool
And it's paradise.
libby emmons
I bought a house.
I wouldn't say it's paradise.
tim pool
Oh, she's lying.
She can't shut up about it.
libby emmons
I wouldn't say it's paradise.
I miss New York, but I do love my little house.
clint russell
I was a third-generation Californian, man, so I appreciate the heartache that you've gone through and the courage it takes to ultimately get out of there.
It's not easy.
tim pool
You guys want to hear a wild story about California?
Yeah.
The Barracks, the most influential skate brand for a long time, they recently shut down as of December.
They rented this massive facility.
It was like 20 or 30,000 square feet or something.
Every pro went there.
They had huge contests.
When they rented the place, it was $8,000 a month.
By the end, by mid or sometime around last year, the rent was $108,000 a month.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
Yep.
ian crossland
How many years between those two?
tim pool
Like 10 years.
libby emmons
What the fuck?
108,000 is too much for a monthly rent.
I'm just going to say it right now.
tim pool
So it's a big warehouse.
It was 30,000 square feet, but the rent jumped that high to the point where the barracks was like, we can't afford this anymore.
unidentified
And they shut down and they haven't posted for three months.
tim pool
Yep, the whole, it's being fucking destroyed.
And so it was crazy to see them, they announced they destroyed it all.
unidentified
It's fucking nuts.
libby emmons
Well, in New York, you have, you know, on 5th Avenue, Madison Avenue, you have closed storefronts.
And that's absolutely out of control.
ian crossland
Oh, Magmile, dude!
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
And it's like- Okay, this blew my mind.
libby emmons
It's like $20,000 rent, but if I can just, landlords can get a tax deduction for the difference between, for the loss of the market value of the rent if they don't rent it out.
So it's better for them to not rent it.
tim pool
So I follow this decaying Midwest on Instagram where they, Urban Explorers, and they had this one video I saw and it said, we entered this under, we went under through a sewer and found ourselves inside a skyscraper or something.
I was like, oh wow.
And then I'm watching it.
And once they get to the top floor, I went, Wait, what the fuck?
That building's abandoned?
It is a prominent Mag Mile building that had a food court.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Completely abandoned now.
Yep.
serge du preez
That's insane.
tim pool
Do you know what Mag Mile is?
ian crossland
Is it the Magnificent?
tim pool
Yeah, Magnificent Mile in Chicago.
libby emmons
Yeah, I've heard about that.
tim pool
It's where the Water Tower is.
It's by, like, John Hancock.
It is a major touristy spot.
And one of the main buildings where I used to go and get lunch when I would work in Chicago, gone.
clint russell
And if you remember, there was local level officials in California that were taking victory laps when Elon was threatening to leave California.
I remember that.
These people are extraordinarily self-defeating and vicious.
And I think that the productive aspects of society have no choice but to get out.
That's my honest opinion.
I had a multimillion dollar business in California.
I left.
There's just no reason to punish yourself like that.
serge du preez
I left after a while as well, and I lived in California when I was younger, but as someone who's lived in Idaho too, I would definitely not like hold on to being too Californian in Idaho.
They don't really take too kindly to that up there.
unidentified
Yeah.
serge du preez
But that being said, I think eventually you have to make a decision that's best for you, man.
No one knows your personal thing, but at this point, like, it's gotten so bad.
At least when I was there too, the gas was like $7.45 when I left like two years ago.
It's like back up to that now.
It went back down for a little bit, but...
ian crossland
I left in 2018 and I had a very, I had a similar feeling.
I felt like I was failing.
Like I failed myself when I left because I was like, this is where it's happening.
This is where it's going to happen.
And no, it doesn't matter.
tim pool
Look how stupid Chicago is.
ian crossland
I love that area.
That's where there's the underground streets and the above ground.
tim pool
Lower Wacker.
So I'm like, okay, let's go to Mag Mile.
ian crossland
Michigan Ave.
tim pool
And it's like, I clicked forward and I went underground and I was like, God damn it.
ian crossland
Yo, that's a cool area.
tim pool
It just brought me underground.
ian crossland
I used to work down there.
tim pool
Because it's got like three levels.
ian crossland
It's so beautiful in the summer.
tim pool
Oh, hey, look, you wanna see where Jussie Smollett did his bullshit?
ian crossland
Fuck yeah, dude, we sing about him in the song, too!
libby emmons
This is the clock, right here.
ian crossland
It's great.
tim pool
This is this big clock, you just have arms, and it would tell you what time it was, and when you were up in these buildings, you could look down.
ian crossland
Oh, cool.
tim pool
NBC is right over here somewhere, there's NBC.
ian crossland
Is it Michigan Ave?
serge du preez
Ew, gross.
tim pool
No, this is Columbus Drive, but, uh, so, this is around the area where Jussie Smollett was, and I think it was right under here, actually.
ian crossland
It's so funny.
serge du preez
Where's the subway?
tim pool
Subway is some way somewhere back over here, but that's where he was walking you and I was like, yeah So it was I think it was here and the funny thing is having grown up here ain't no humans live here, dude That's all work.
ian crossland
It's all Businesses over there.
Yeah, so it's like I dream about this area.
I want to build like underground world city like that in a fantasy land and It was like somewhere back there.
clint russell
Anyone that believes in freedom is going to be living in those hotels soon.
tim pool
Look at this.
I want to go up.
How do I go up?
Where's the up?
ian crossland
Yes, jump.
Hit spacebar.
tim pool
How do I go up?
unidentified
I don't know.
They need to gamify this shit.
libby emmons
Did you see the stairs?
tim pool
Yeah, but you can't Google... Wait, what happens if I click Bank of America?
Okay, that didn't help me.
Wait, how do I get up there?
ian crossland
Unattached from the ground.
Free mode.
No.
tim pool
I wanna go up!
I can't do it!
ian crossland
I'm surprised they don't let you fly around.
I guess you're looking at picture after picture.
Dude, when this goes virtual and you can just fly around the Earth like this, the entire planet... Hey!
tim pool
I made it upstairs!
Dude, it's wild.
The mud flood theorists love Chicago because they think it proves it.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Because when they raised the whole city up...
They didn't actually lift any buildings.
They just built sidewalk over the sidewalk and then created new front doors for the buildings.
So when you go to Lower Wacker, the building's original storefronts and everything.
ian crossland
So Lake Michigan just swelled at some point and mudded up the whole base of Chicago?
tim pool
What's the theory?
Mudflood theory is that a great Tartarian empire conquered the world, and then a gigantic flood wiped out all of civilization, and we are not building buildings, we are discovering buildings by digging.
ian crossland
Oh, that's too far for me.
That part of the theory.
tim pool
So they said they love Chicago because the city got raised up because of concern about flooding.
And so it used to be, we built, Chicago was built over the lake.
And then they were like, okay, we can't do this.
So they just went like 15 feet up and then built new sidewalk and streets on, it's like, it's fucking nuts.
You're walking on the streets, but you're actually in a building.
Like this sidewalk right here, it's a building.
Underneath this is steel support beams.
unidentified
Yeah, dude.
serge du preez
That's badass.
libby emmons
That's cool.
ian crossland
It is super unique.
For the metropolises, it's a unique one.
tim pool
Yeah, look.
When you're underneath the sidewalk, you're walking on all this fucking weird shit.
ian crossland
If you ever go to Chicago and you feel safe, this area is a cool tourist attraction, to be honest.
tim pool
Not anymore, dude.
ian crossland
Really?
tim pool
It's dirty?
This is the street.
You're not walking on a street.
You're walking on a building with beams and poles.
So they raise the whole city up.
That's like in Venice.
They'll just go to the next floor up.
Anyway, we should probably wrap up.
Is there anything else you have?
serge du preez
Yeah, anything else to add, my friend?
unidentified
Um, well, I just want to say thank you to Cliff for your kind words.
I really appreciate it.
Um, you kind of hit it on the head there.
Uh, there's a lot of heartbreak because I'm also third generation.
So I appreciate you.
clint russell
I lived it.
It's very, very easy to be sympathetic to your plight here, man.
unidentified
You guys talked earlier about, you know, loss of birthright and man, that is, that's what it feels like.
That's really what it feels like.
So thank you guys, everybody from California, everyone.
You are so important to keeping us sane out here, Tim.
I got so much.
Positive stuff to say about you, but I'll leave it at that.
Thank you guys.
tim pool
Thanks for calling in.
serge du preez
Hell yeah, man.
ian crossland
Great show, guys.
serge du preez
Best of luck in Idaho, brother.
ian crossland
Yes.
tim pool
Does that do it for callers?
serge du preez
Yeah, that's it.
tim pool
All right.
Clint, thanks for hanging out.
clint russell
Hell yeah, dude.
tim pool
Been fun.
And for everybody who's a member, I got to go to bed.
clint russell
Go to bed, Tim.
ian crossland
I'm going to play Helldivers 2.
clint russell
Dude, tune in a month from now when Tim is fucking jacked out of his mind.
tim pool
It's going to be wild, dude.
ian crossland
You should have heard him grunting earlier.
It was so powerful.
unidentified
Oh, you did?
ian crossland
Yeah, I could hear you.
unidentified
It was brutal.
ian crossland
Like, ooh, it felt good.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Living through vicariously.
clint russell
Let me be clear with the audience.
Tim is not building for bulk.
Ian, on the other hand, is gonna be 200- 250 pounds of fucking raw steel.
ian crossland
Oh, you should hear the voice.
tim pool
Have one scoop of casein protein before bed.
unidentified
Okay.
Boom.
tim pool
That's all you gotta do.
And that will actually help build muscle mass.
ian crossland
Protein and water?
Just protein and water?
tim pool
Casein protein and water.
Uh, one scoop.
20 grams.
Not even that much.
And you'll- you'll- you'll- you'll- Alright, we're gonna go to bed.
Thanks for hanging out, everybody.
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