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soldiers and injured 34 more.
They say it was done by Iran-backed militia groups and came from Syria.
We're now getting a breaking report from Sky News that as early as tonight, Joe Biden may authorize military action in the Middle East, which could spark World War III.
And I'm not the only one who's saying it.
World War III has been trending for some time, especially after these three U.S.
soldiers had been killed.
And there are numerous reports coming out about the fears escalating.
And, of course, kind of feels like beating a dead horse, but you have had many world leaders saying over and over again over the past year that we are knocking on the doors of World War III.
In fact, many said we are already in it.
We just don't know it yet.
So we'll see.
I suppose with all the news now coming out about the fears of World War III, there's a lot to actually break down.
But we got big news on the border.
Everybody's waiting for an update on what happened with Biden.
The Biden administration and Texas, the National Guard, the Border Patrol has sided with Texas.
They said they're not going to interfere.
They're not going to be arresting anybody.
And they actually disagree with the Supreme Court's ruling.
This is from the Border Patrol Union.
So this should be particularly interesting.
We'll get into all of that.
And then we got some more fun news.
Mark Cuban, Has been arguing over diversity, inclusivity, and equity programs, and he stated publicly on Axe that gender and race do contribute.
He says, I've never had anybody solely based on that, but it does play a factor.
Well, one of the commissioners of the EEOC responded to him saying, no, you cannot use it in any way.
You are dead wrong.
Mark Cuban seems to have publicly admitted to violating the law, opening up all of his companies to massive legal exposure by admitting they use race and gender in hiring, which is illegal.
Now, there are people reporting, anybody who's ever, or I should say, what's going around now, anybody who's been fired or refused a job from any one of his companies now has grounds for a lawsuit to say it was because of their race.
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Joining us to talk about this and everything else is Steve Baker.
steve baker
Hey, it's good to be here.
tim pool
Who are you?
steve baker
What do you do?
What do I do?
God, that's a hard question, actually.
I've been around long enough to have done a lot of things.
Started my life as a musician.
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Oh, great.
steve baker
Yeah, yeah.
Did that from the time I was a child, and then became a professional touring musician when I was a 19-year-old punk in college.
Wow.
Yeah, I was a trumpet player.
Oh, cool.
Yeah, so I answered the call to go on the road with a band.
I quit school, did that for several years, and have been in the music business in one form or the other most of my life.
tim pool
And now you're a journalist.
steve baker
Well, yeah, I've been writing on the side, you know, that was always kind of my hobby.
And then it became my side hustle and that sort of thing.
And then once, you know, AOL became MySpace and MySpace became Facebook and Facebook became a blog.
And now that has all become Blaze Media.
But that's where I work for now.
tim pool
And one of the big stories that we've been covering quite a bit is that for your coverage of January 6th, as a journalist, as one of the most, I mean, anybody looks at you, they're like, oh, that guy's a journalist, right?
They're threatening to lock you up.
steve baker
I heard you say that, yes.
tim pool
Yeah, I mean, of like, you're sitting there wearing the suit on the blaze, and I'm like, they could have some fat dude in a t-shirt, and you're gonna be like, is he a journalist?
Or like, what does he do?
That guy in the suit sitting with the glasses, like, oh, he looks like a journalist.
steve baker
But you know what?
I did not look like a journalist on January 6th.
Because see, I had a David Bowie tribute act at the time.
And because it was the COVID lockdowns, I decided that I was going to change my Bowie look and so I was actually growing my hair out during that time.
So as I'm walking through the Capitol on the CCTV cameras, I have this long mane coming out of the back of my ball cap.
tim pool
They're threatening to lock you up.
steve baker
Yeah.
tim pool
Because you were reporting on January 6th.
There are several people who Well, the media, I mean, we'll just go use Owen Shroyer as an example, didn't even go in the building.
They did lock him up.
And so we've covered your story quite a bit.
Thanks for joining us.
We'll get into the details on that and we'll see where we are with the updates.
But yeah, it's a crazy story.
steve baker
Yeah, it is.
tim pool
Yeah, right on.
We also have Hannah-Claire Brimelow hanging out.
hannah claire brimelow
Hey, I'm Hannah-Claire Brimelow.
I'm a writer for scnr.com.
You can see all of our news on Twitter and Instagram at TimCastNews.
I'm really happy to be here.
Shane's back.
shane cashman
What's up?
I'm happy to be here.
I'm also a writer for Scanner and the author of Tales from the Inverted World, where I write about the thin line between demons and politicians.
Quite often.
tim pool
And the lack thereof.
shane cashman
And there's no more line anymore.
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Welcome to 2024.
serge du preez
Yeah, also interested to see what your take on the new Kanye stuff is.
Maybe we'll get into that.
I don't think we will.
But we should talk about that otherwise.
shane cashman
Oh, I got a lot of takes.
tim pool
And we definitely got to talk about the Taylor Swift conspiracy theory.
Man, I've had a lot of people yell at me that the Ravens-Chiefs match was rigged.
That the refs were throwing it.
The Ravens were throwing it.
Like, what is happening?
I've heard over and over again that there were like three instances of pass interference.
The refs didn't call on the Chiefs and just gave them a free ride.
Or they're just salty fans, I don't know.
But I'm seeing all over Ax people like, rigged, rigged, rigged!
And you've got this scenario where Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce have this, like, movie romance going on where it's boosting all this, uh, all of these, you know, revenue and ratings and everything.
But there are a lot of people on the right who think Taylor Swift, it's all one big psy-op because she's gonna announce support for the Democrats.
I think that's wrong.
I think if there's gonna be a side, it'll be something different.
But we will talk about that because the idea of the NFL being rigged is very interesting.
But!
We're going to jump to this first story here from Sky News.
Check this out.
Biden faces pivotal moment as he weighs retaliation for soldier deaths in Jordan drone strike.
The commander in chief will have given a number of options by the Pentagon, but the consequences are far from certain and could trigger a wider war.
Sky News says as early as tonight, President Joe Biden will authorize U.S.
military action in the Middle East.
It is likely to be one of the most consequential decisions of his presidency.
At stake, the credibility of American deterrence and the teetering stability of the region.
This comes after three U.S.
troops were killed in a drone attack and 34 were injured.
CNN reports that three U.S.
Army soldiers were killed and more than 30 service members were injured in a drone attack overnight on a small U.S.
outpost in Jordan, U.S.
officials told CNN, marking the first time that U.S.
troops have been killed by enemy fire in the Middle East since the beginning of the Gaza War.
We shall respond, President Joe Biden said while speaking in South Carolina on Sunday.
The killing of three Americans at Tower 22 in Jordan near the border with Syria is a significant escalation of an already precarious situation in the Middle East.
Officials said the drone was fired by Iran-backed militants and appeared to come from Syria.
It is still being determined which militia group specifically is responsible.
And of course, we're already seeing the warmongers in Washington, D.C.
say, strike Iran now.
With the reporting that Joe Biden will be authorizing some form of retaliation tonight, Many are speculating this could kick off World War III.
I also, okay, I think it's fair to state that the problem we have here, and the difficulty with this kind of commentary, is that you have dozens of world leaders saying either World War III is starting, has already started, or is about to start.
Then you have constant tit-for-tat escalations, and we just don't know.
I mean, we're in the thick of it.
We can't tell.
We can't see the forest.
We're inside of it.
This could be the shot heard around the world moment, but I don't think we would know until well into any kind of actual war.
I do believe, however, if Joe Biden does order any kind of retaliation on Iran directly, then it's fine.
I think it's fair to say at that point, everything's going to kick off dominoes one after another.
So if there is an action taken against Iran, in some capacity, and then this ropes in the other countries in the BRICS nations, we may six months down the line be like, okay, we're in World War Three.
History books will look back and say that moment Joe Biden ordered retaliation kicked things off.
I gotta be honest.
I'd actually think that October 7th may be considered the start.
If World War III kicks off, you can ignore Ukraine.
People will say, well, there were border conflicts happening, and there was funding of war in Ukraine, Afghanistan collapsed, and things like that.
October 7th was a massive escalation, which results in the Houthi rebels shutting down, you know, the Red Sea, basically, shutting down shipping, which is now leading to a dramatic escalation.
At some point, Venezuela can make a move on Guyana.
China makes a move on Taiwan.
There you go, World War Three.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, it's definitely tense geopolitically.
I mean, that's the funny thing about the Ukraine conflict, which is that for a while when this was happening, when Russia was stationing troops along the border, everyone was like, we're on the brink of something, we're on the brink of something.
And they did shut down trade and there are all kinds of sanctions against Russia.
And ultimately, we just started to learn to live with this conflict.
I mean, of course, the U.S.
government is paying billions of dollars to support Ukraine and the American taxpayers are feeling the effect of that at home.
But ultimately, it doesn't seem like that was enough to spark World War Three.
This does seem like more of a tension building moment.
But maybe we'll feel differently in six months.
tim pool
You know, people like Lindsey Graham, they've been wanting Iran forever.
They want us inside Iran.
They want to slide on in, you know, occupy that space and just take it.
steve baker
Is that why we have a small contingency in Jordan?
Are they bait for the warmongers?
tim pool
Well, the other thing, too, is that Intercept is reporting we've got troops in Yemen.
This is a White House report saying we did.
And then in January said, actually, no, we don't.
We're not sure there's any troops there.
There's been a secret war in Yemen going on for a decade.
The U.S.
has been supplying weapons even under Trump.
This has been ongoing.
The question is, when does it come to a point where Russia, China, or any BRICS nation, for instance, just finally says, yeah, no, it's full scale, it's mobilization?
hannah claire brimelow
And would they, right?
Like, who's going to be the first to admit that we're in war?
I feel like no country wants to be the one to say, like, this is it.
shane cashman
I think if we get, if we make it to the far future, they're going to have a hard time quantifying World War III as separated from World War II and World War I. They're going to look at this all as like one long sustained time of violence that's been going on for maybe decades.
tim pool
I don't think so.
I mean, yeah, sort of, but World War I, before World War I, there was, the war starts because of the tensions.
shane cashman
Then World War II is kind of born out of consequences from that.
tim pool
Exactly.
But look, we call World War I and World War II separate despite the fact that it's all basically the same conflict.
shane cashman
But then I'm thinking like past that, you know, we've been kind of doing these weird psyops on each other through, you know, the internet and causing all this turmoil, whether the people claiming it's rigged elections and whatnot.
I think they might add those to the idea of what the war has looked like, because we've entered this new digital space where the war is on, like, the digital battlefront, the physical battlefront.
We're seeing it escalate now in the way we think of war in the old school ways, but I think it's been going on kind of psychologically for years.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, that makes me think of, like, TikTok, right?
I mean, when TikTok rolled out, everyone realized what kind of connection it had to the Chinese government.
It was sort of this question of, oh, what warfare is being played even though we are not actively at, you know, At war.
There is always an effort to have influence over another nation.
I don't think that ever went away.
tim pool
I have proof that TikTok is war.
They banned pop culture crisis.
shane cashman
I thought you were going to say because they created Dylan Mulvaney, but that's also true.
tim pool
So we have another show at TimCast.com, Pop Culture Crisis, hosted by Brett Dasovic and Mary Morgan.
Guests on Friday.
It's very similar to TimCast IRL in its structure.
Super chats, commentary, stories, podcasts, live.
Monday through Friday, three to five.
It's not a big political show.
It's talking about like, oh hey, this new movie came out, this new video game.
The point was to be able to have someone, some way that we could talk about pop culture issues in this company when we're mostly talking about news.
TikTok banned them.
shane cashman
What was the reason?
tim pool
Community guidelines violations.
I call shenanigans.
I think the real issue is controlling influence of an adversary.
Making sure that the work we do can't expand.
TimCastIRL got banned from TikTok a while ago.
And then, you know, no real reason given.
They don't want us to be able to have influence because the narrative and the message that we share is good for the United States And the narrative and message that's on TikTok, Dylan Mulvaney for instance, is destroying the future generations.
shane cashman
I got banned from TikTok right after I posted a video of me on InfoWars.
And I think Alex's voice just like trips a wire on TikTok and it was like immediately gone.
I was like, I don't even care.
I don't even like TikTok like that.
It was fun sharing videos of me on InfoWars, but it was immediate.
hannah claire brimelow
But TikTok has such an influence on culture right now.
I mean, this is what happened after the October 7th conflict broke out.
This was one of the things that came up, that the conversation that was happening between mainstream media or maybe even on, let's say, Instagram was different from the conversation that was happening among younger Gen Z on TikTok.
The difference between the position on being, you know, Pro-Israel versus being pro-Palestine became obvious on social media more than anywhere else.
I mean, it was social media and college campuses that really led people to believe that, oh, wait, they have conflicting opinions here.
We didn't expect it.
Yeah.
Are you on TikTok?
steve baker
No, I banned myself from TikTok.
hannah claire brimelow
Me too, I never got on.
steve baker
The moment it came into existence.
shane cashman
Fair play.
tim pool
Well, good.
But it is still highly influential.
Did you guys see that Florida is proposing banning social media for anyone under 16?
hannah claire brimelow
With parental consent, right?
There's a couple states that are considering laws like this.
tim pool
So a kid can go on if the parents consent to it?
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, you have to have parental consent if you're a minor, if you're under 18.
tim pool
Just like if a kid wants to go to an adult bookstore, he just needs parental consent, right?
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, and I can't remember which state, I'll look it up in a second, but one of them, you know, you can't just say, oh yeah, my parents said it was okay.
You have to, they have to like sign a document and send it into the company, which I find interesting.
But again, to your point, you know, the challenges that this generation is facing in terms of, you know, Trying to understand the challenges that face their young generation are very different than the parents who came out of World War I or the parents who came out of World War II.
And I think so much of that has to do with the digital age.
I mean, we always see that during times of threat, you know, like after 9-11, theoretically, this was a point where a lot of people enrolled.
enlisted in the military and there was a sort of spike in patriotism, but that goes away.
People have their own questions about the government's actions.
This generation has seen so much tension and conflict.
And in fact, the fact that they're always plugged in, they're always seeing clips of
awful things all the time.
Could you inspire them to come together?
shane cashman
I don't think you can.
So you're saying that social media created the perfect candidates for drone operators?
hannah claire brimelow
Maybe, or just the perfect candidates to be disengaged because they are ultimately overstimulated
tim pool
I think it created a generation of broken-brained people.
steve baker
Well, that's what the biggest danger is.
As my children became teenagers, and of course I could watch on my iPhone what apps they were downloading, you know, and my 14-year-old son downloads Snapchat, oh heck no, you know, that comes off now.
You take it off or I take the phone.
hannah claire brimelow
Snapchat's creepy.
steve baker
Well, it was creepy, but you know, look, those guys on his baseball team, they're sharing photos, pictures, and it would be incredibly easy for them to make that fatal mistake, and they're branded as a sexual predator for the rest of their lives.
tim pool
Yeah, this is where teenagers share photos of themselves, and it doesn't matter.
Law doesn't say you or anyone else.
The law just says, photo of a minor.
Done.
steve baker
That's it.
tim pool
And so they've had, like, 14-year-old boys and girls have to register as sex offenders because they took pictures of themselves and shared it, but that's what the law says.
hannah claire brimelow
Or there's been a couple cases where people will connect with them, effectively catfish them, they'll send, like, a nude photo or whatever, and then they'll blackmail them and say, like, we have this, we're going to ruin your life.
There was, I think, a kid from Minnesota who killed himself over this.
I mean, this is, like, a new danger that I think parents have never had to contend with because they're basically inviting strangers into their home constantly through their cell phone.
tim pool
I want to jump to this story from the Telegraph, hosted by Yahoo News.
Well, the article is very interesting.
fast and too few are willing to admit why. Well the article is very interesting.
It does mention that there was a drone attack on a US base near
Jordan, but it mentions the core reason is that authoritarian regimes are failing.
Iran and Russia, for instance, struggling to keep themselves afloat, are going to start making moves.
I think it's actually a really good argument.
Faced with an existential crisis, either economically, due to population collapse or otherwise, Look, a drowning person is not, they thrash about violently.
And you know, they say when you're going to rescue someone who's drowning, you have to approach them from behind, otherwise they drag you down with them.
For these countries that are facing existential crises, and that includes the United States, there's an option.
Go to war.
And we've seen it time and time again.
And there's a lot of parallels to everyone's favorite empire, the Roman Empire.
But I want to point out a few very important things.
The World Socialist website, you know, we love them.
They report, British army chief issues call for conscription and whole of nation mobilization for war.
It's not just Britain, Sweden has issued a call for their citizens to prepare for war and there have been reports that people have begun signing up to be conscripted.
So in Sweden they have a system where you fill out a questionnaire and determine whether or not you will be forced to join the war effort.
France24 says, Sweden's call for population to prepare for war sparks panic and criticism.
Now, I don't consider the World Socialist website to be all that credible.
But here's the interesting thing.
I believe conscription is the appropriate word based on the facts.
Corporate news doesn't want to say conscription because of what it means to the average person.
So of course, thetimes.co.uk says, UK must train citizens for war with Russia, says army chief.
Let me just try that one for you again.
UK must train citizens for war with Russia.
In other words, citizens should prepare to be conscripted into war.
The Times doesn't want to say it.
Corporate press doesn't want to publicly state, we will conscript you and force you to go to war, because that is never popular.
And I believe if all the big outlets said right now, Sweden and the UK have issued calls for conscription, Then there would be a major push against escalation to stop the war.
So they want to keep that out of sight, out of mind.
But in the end...
For those that are here in the United States, if Joe Biden decides tonight to issue a retaliatory strike on, say, the coast of Iran or something, on specific targets, and he says, for too long, Iran has been supplying the Houthi rebels and other militia groups in Iraq and Syria, and this has now resulted in the death of three American citizens, America will retaliate.
We will not back down.
If he strikes Iran and Iran says, we're going to war and then calls in their allies, and this escalates dramatically.
Do not be surprised if they start sending out draft orders.
steve baker
I have, unfortunately, a son of draft age.
And when I say unfortunately, it's not unfortunate that I have a son.
hannah claire brimelow
You like him, it's unfortunate that he's draft age.
steve baker
It's unfortunate that he is draft age.
And it is, as a father, not something that I want to see happening, obviously.
But in my entire life, though, I've always grown up always thinking that if we're attacked, if our assets are attacked overseas, that we must retaliate.
The problem today is I don't believe anything anymore.
I don't believe anything.
And when we start talking about conscription in Sweden or especially in the UK, it's like Orwell spinning around going, I told you so, I told you so.
shane cashman
I love my father, but I remember that one of the first big fights we had, I was maybe 11 or 12, we were watching some war footage on TV and I told him, I will never be drafted.
They'll try and I'll never fight those wars.
I don't know.
It just felt inherent to my soul.
He got really mad.
Like, how dare you not want to protect your country and stuff.
But my dad buys into a lot of like the corporate press.
Although watching Fox 5 and stuff, he buys into that whole, you know, narrative of patriotism.
hannah claire brimelow
And he's from an older generation.
shane cashman
Yeah, and I get it.
And I get why he was mad.
I always thought about that fight, but I believe a double down on that feeling I had then.
No more now more.
tim pool
But you know what?
It's sad, isn't it?
There used to be a generation of people who said, I believe in my country wholeheartedly, I will fight for them.
But the problem is, we have seen time and time again, the military-industrial complex and special interests send young men, mostly men, off to die for no reason other than their bottom line.
shane cashman
Yeah, and I should add to that because of what Tim just said, I grew up next to a military base.
Seeing basically people who are my surrogate brothers and sisters, older brothers and sisters who were cadets, come back with no limbs, going to die for wars that made no sense.
You know, so that was the world I was born up into and it made no, absolutely no sense.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, this is the conversation my family had when my brother enlisted and he deployed to Afghanistan with the Marine Corps was like, But why are we here?
Like, you know, I respect that that was the path that was right for him and everything else.
But also, is this the the operation that I think is most value for your time?
Not to mention all the risk.
But all service members, families are going to worry at the risk.
It was like we don't even need to be here.
shane cashman
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
And you're going anyway.
shane cashman
Yeah.
Risk is important.
And we should be in the military to some degree can be important.
But what has become the industrial complex that Eisenhower warned about, we are living in that horrible nightmare right now.
steve baker
If we can't clearly define that The answer to that question, why are we here?
Why are we going?
That's why we have to have Congress make these decisions and not unilaterally made by one decrepit old senile man or whoever's controlling.
shane cashman
Yeah, wow.
I usually call him a reanimated corpse.
You're being very nice to him.
steve baker
Yeah, sorry.
Well, it's because I'm much closer to his age than you are.
shane cashman
You are doing way better than that man is.
Man, I'll put it in quotes.
hannah claire brimelow
That's the thing, too.
Trump and Biden are not so far off in age, and there's obviously a huge difference.
I mean, there are other politicians that are close to Biden in age, and he is just not doing well.
Deteriorating.
At a certain point, you have to just feel unkind, being like, you are falling apart, sir, but you really are.
tim pool
We got a funny super chat.
Maury says, Gen Z is not fighting for this country, lolol.
Here's a thought.
Excuse me, sir.
I noticed that you just illegally crossed the border.
Would you like to be a citizen of this country?
Here's a gun.
We're sending you to Ukraine.
The likelihood, I think, is actually fairly great in the event of a major war that the U.S.
Look.
It used to be, I love the history of rifling.
There used to be, oh, I love the story of the last samurai in Japan.
They were considered high-ranking, high-class, high-status, trained warriors.
And then we bring them rifles, and we're like, you don't need to train anybody.
You just hand it to them, you tell them to point and shoot.
And all of a sudden, the samurai are considered, they're much, much less important.
You don't need to train someone from birth to be a fighter anymore when you can hand a gun to somebody.
So I don't think people realize that with all these migrants coming through the border, the U.S.
doesn't care at all.
If they're like, if we can bring in 6 million people, all the people on the right keep saying military age males.
Yeah, congratulations.
The U.S.
government says we got 6 million military age males, and we'll tell them, you have no choice, you are fighting on our behalf.
steve baker
The question is, is what direction are they going to point the gun?
tim pool
Doesn't matter.
Whichever way the government tells them to.
Literally does not matter.
You just drop six, you start transporting these people in mass to an enemy nation, and it's bedlam for that country, no matter what.
I mean, you look at what's happening in the United States because of it.
These people sleeping in airports, the conflict, this is not even conflict, it's just them literally being there causing problems.
You look at the United States saying, we're going to give you weapons, you win that war, you're a citizen of the United States, a bunch of them are going to say, you got it boss, But even if they don't, just sending them over to Iran or whatever is going to cause chaos.
steve baker
Sounds like the Roman Empire to me.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
And to me, the question is, like, if they are then back here and they're like, yes, thank you, government.
You gave me my citizenship and I can fire a gun.
And they're like, now attack fellow citizens because we said so.
The loyalty is concerning me.
I actually thought you were going to go a different direction, which is like, I would be fine to send our military to our southern border to defend it.
I don't know why we would go other places.
tim pool
I think the good news here is if we do send a bunch of these criminal aliens in the United States and say you can be a citizen if you go fight in Iran or whatever, the good news is the U.S.
doesn't keep its promise to its veterans, so once they come back they'll be completely discarded and the right won't have to worry about them becoming citizens.
hannah claire brimelow
This is very Grimcast today.
We're very Grimcast.
tim pool
Yeah.
shane cashman
It's hard not to be when you're seeing this stuff in the news.
Seeing this corpse about to announce more war.
It's terrible.
tim pool
No mean tweets.
shane cashman
That's right.
Thank God.
Thank God.
tim pool
I just keep- They weren't even really that mean!
Come on!
shane cashman
I just keep thinking about- They were fun.
hannah claire brimelow
We all had something to look forward to every day.
tim pool
I love the, you ever see the journalist when they were like, since Trump, when Trump, when Biden wins the White House, they're like, I used to have to wake up at three in the morning for my phone buzzing a tweet from Donald Trump and my editor's like, you have to write it up now.
And they're like, now he's gone and we don't, or he got banned.
We don't have to worry about it anymore.
And it's, it's finally where I'm relaxing.
shane cashman
Just good old war.
That's all we got to write about.
hannah claire brimelow
We just have war.
No tweets at the moment.
shane cashman
And I see these news items and I think about the way Biden talks and just how weak he is.
And I'm afraid that this administration is going to want to overcompensate for his weakness by doing something real crazy in the next few days.
Like what?
Who knows going to hard on Iran, you know, dropping lots of bombs, just making the people know this is why you should vote for me.
I'm a strong man.
Joe Biden has never said once in his life unless he plagiarized it from someone else, obviously, but I just seeing all of that.
I am like having flashbacks to the day.
They announced Biden winning and all the people in New York City dancing in the streets and popping champagne.
I see Steven Pinker dancing in his living room on how happy is and this is what they got.
tim pool
I think we will absolutely have some serious mobilization this year.
I don't know if I would call it World War 3.
I mean, whatever.
You know, World War 3 is trending on Twitter and people keep saying that this move by Biden could trigger it.
And there's smarter and more prominent political figures than me around the world saying we're already in it, especially because of this.
Fine.
But I got to say, it's an election year.
Joe Biden's in trouble.
I would not be surprised if we go to war with Iran.
I think it's, in fact, I think it's greater than chance.
hannah claire brimelow
Does wartime presidents get reelected?
tim pool
Yeah.
And I wonder if that could backfire on Joe Biden.
But I think outside of whether or not Biden could get reelected, the deep state intelligence agencies and the military industrial complex are saying if Donald Trump gets elected, We ain't getting our war.
Go to war now, then even if Trump wins, he can't back us out.
steve baker
But how bad does this world war have to be before it's a greater threat to our democracy than was January 6th?
hannah claire brimelow
I'm sorry, nothing on earth could ever be more of a threat than January 6th.
shane cashman
I don't even know why you'd... That was like 9-11.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, it was all of them.
shane cashman
Unbelievable.
And that's a great point of reading these articles where the UK must train citizens for war, how they can downplay anything, but also inflate something like January 6th into the worst, you know, the way the politicians talk about it.
It's D-Day, it's Pearl Harbor, it's 9-11.
But that's what they do.
These are the tricks they play.
The death of language, this is what they constantly do.
It's actually really scary because so many people still buy into it.
steve baker
That's exactly right.
hannah claire brimelow
Do you think people will shift their opinion on Biden if he were to take us into war?
Do you think that could help him get reelected?
steve baker
Every single time we have this situation with a president, that's what we expect is going to happen.
That's where the whole wag the dog idea came from.
First of all, I don't know that Biden is going to be there anyway.
I don't know what the roundtable here consensus is.
I'm saying he's not making it.
hannah claire brimelow
Because he's not going to make it health-wise, or they're going to pull him as a candidate?
steve baker
Oh, they're going to have to pull him.
They have no choice.
I mean, just watch him this past weekend.
He can't find his way anywhere any longer.
All the signs are there.
My father passed away as a result of Alzheimer's, and I'm watching this unfold, what we saw in my own family.
So it's not going to happen.
He's not going to be there, but whoever's pulling his puppet strings, maybe that's what they need is World War III.
shane cashman
Yeah, yeah.
I think it's possible.
Who's pulling the puppet strings?
tim pool
I think their hope is, look, when we have Trump.
No new wars.
Timelines for withdrawal.
Joe Biden gets in.
What's the first thing he does?
Reverses course.
We get more troops.
We get Syria, troops in Syria being bolstered.
And whoever remembers us declaring war on Syria, just when was that?
When did we deploy?
hannah claire brimelow
I don't think we ever declare war on anything anymore.
tim pool
We get war in Ukraine.
We get escalation with China.
We've got US strike groups moving through the Strait of Taiwan.
You've got Venezuela and Guyana.
It is bubbling up.
And the military industrial complex guys are salivating.
But, they may be thinking, you know, Joe can't win.
Nikki Haley's in their back pocket.
She says she's gonna stay here until Super Tuesday.
I could not believe it.
I couldn't believe it!
Like, we got a live event we're planning in Virginia for Super Tuesday, and I said, let's be real, it's not gonna be a Super Tuesday.
I don't know what it'll be.
And then she comes out and she's like, I'm not backing out until at least then.
It's like...
Okay, lady, but that's their plan.
You gotta get some kind of warmongers up there.
But if they can't win, they'll take their consolation prize, War with Iran, before Trump gets in.
And there's nothing anyone... You can't stop it.
Joe Biden's the president.
Republicans in Congress won't do anything.
So literally, the best course of action is you vote for Trump, and then hope he can wind things down as quickly as possible when he becomes president.
shane cashman
They're going to pull Biden, the Democrats, and then replace him with Nikki Haley.
That's what they're going to do.
hannah claire brimelow
I'd be surprised.
I wouldn't be surprised.
tim pool
How funny would that be?
hannah claire brimelow
That would be funny.
I don't think she would actually do it.
shane cashman
She sounds a lot like them.
hannah claire brimelow
It'll be interesting to see.
I mean, this is what I'm so interested with Joe Manchin right now, because he said, I'm not going to run for Senate again in West Virginia.
And he's been in since 2010.
The other fact of this that I love is that he got nominated or appointed to the Senate after Senator Robert Byrd died
in office at 96 after being in office for 51 years.
I mean, the West Virginia Senate seat has just basically never been available in American history.
But everything he's saying, I mean, he just had this interview with CNN saying,
the White House is controlled by far, far left people.
And he said this a couple of times about Biden.
And so the same with Dean Phillips.
All of his stuff, if you look at his bio that he has on his official congressional website right now, is like, I am a moderate.
So there is this movement within the party to say, like, we are actually not like them.
Please don't lump us in with the rest of them.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Let's let's talk about the conspiracy theory that says Joe Biden will get reelected with the help of Taylor Swift. Did you guys see that Baltimore Sun said
Taylor Swift should be the VP?
unidentified
Yeah. No. Yeah. I should actually pull that one up.
The Baltimore Sun? She's very, very busy right now. I don't think she could actually do it.
shane cashman
The Baltimore Sun wrote that after the Ravens lost?
hannah claire brimelow
Check this out. That's very disloyal.
tim pool
The Baltimore Sun, forget Kamala Harris, put Taylor Swift on Joe Biden's ticket.
hannah claire brimelow
So she stops coming to football games.
tim pool
And they said that people are excited about the Ravens and the Baltimore Sun is excited because Taylor Swift might come to Baltimore to watch the game.
Did some Googling, blah, blah, blah.
She will be 35 years old on December 13th, 2024.
Her net worth is $1.1 billion.
She can afford to take what for her would be a volunteer job.
Yada, yada, yada, yada.
Okay, for sure, for sure.
Right now, you've got two big conspiracy theories that are kind of overlapping with each other.
The Kansas City Chiefs beat the Baltimore Ravens.
Everybody out here is pissed off.
We're in Maryland, so everybody out here is Ravens fans, and they're losing it.
They're saying the refs were not making—they're making bad calls.
They weren't calling out pass interference.
It's BS.
They're pissed.
But, you know, that's sports, right?
Well, the conspiracy theory is Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce, it is a—it's a psyop by, I'm assuming, the Democrats and the deep state.
I guess.
So that at the Super Bowl, she can endorse the Democratic Party and tell them to go vote?
Is that, that's basically what the PSYOP plan is?
hannah claire brimelow
I guess.
shane cashman
That's her arc.
She's been slowly getting into politics over the last few years.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I mean, she endorsed Biden in 2020, but the thing is, she's not very helpful right now.
She's literally on the international, she's about to start the international leg of her tour.
It's not like she's, it's very unlikely she's just going to drop in at Biden's campaign stops if Biden's even there himself.
tim pool
I think this is a PSYOP.
I think that's a fact.
shane cashman
In what way?
tim pool
That two PR people got together and said, hey, Taylor Swift, would you like to do a celebrity relationship like we've done with Insert Every Other Celebrity?
It'll make us a bunch of money.
And she was like, sounds good.
So it's a sign up in the sense I'm being somewhat facetious, but I love when the left's going to take that out of context.
And my point is that this happens all the time.
Celebrity publicists say, who can we put together?
The NFL was like, that'd be great, we'd love to have Taylor at the games.
How much will this cost?
Taylor's people are like, look, you show up to a bunch of games, you hang out with your friends, you do this fake relationship, everybody makes hundreds of millions of dollars, the ratings are gonna skyrocket for the NFL, and there's a lot of money to be made with the Super Bowl, you know how much ads cost.
We bring in those ratings, there's gonna be a ton of money.
They offer her a bunch of money.
I think it's more likely that she's just doing stupid publicist nonsense.
That being said, I think the more plausible conspiracy theory is that ratings for the Super Bowl have been in decline.
A U.S.
cultural homogeneity has gone.
I mean, we used to have, like, yeah, Super Bowl, everybody watched, everybody watched Big Bang Theory, now nobody does.
And so, there's this play, like, we're gonna create this romance love story, Travis and Taylor, and he's gonna propose to her, or something big, at the Super Bowl, and if that's the case, all the people claiming that the game was rigged because the Ravens seem to have thrown the match, or that the refs weren't calling it properly, it's because the Chiefs are gonna win, Taylor Swift, and they're gonna have their movie-esque romance, and Travis proposes to her or something, and what makes the most sense is, it's publicity, it's marketing.
steve baker
Is Kelsey part of the PSYOP, or is he being PSYOP'd?
tim pool
In the literal sense of what I think is going on, Travis and Taylor are engaged in a publicity stunt.
That's it.
Look, I just want to stress this, sorry man.
Ten of these happen per year.
Publicists will be like, Jennifer Aniston, and insert celebrity, do you guys want to be seen together at the club and we'll get a bunch of press generated about you?
So I look at this and I see it as no different.
What, they started dating, what, at the beginning of the season?
No, in July.
In July?
hannah claire brimelow
I don't know when football season starts, I'll be honest with you.
tim pool
Isn't that the beginning of the season?
hannah claire brimelow
Isn't that right before the beginning of the season?
shane cashman
I don't know.
steve baker
Training camp.
shane cashman
I feel weird because I'm typically the guy who thinks most things are psyops, but this one... So it's weird that we've had this role reversal, but to me this just seems like one of those organic things of her being a victim of propaganda, becoming this political activist over the last few years.
We've seen her crying in that documentary she made about abortion.
tim pool
Yeah, but she barely is.
hannah claire brimelow
She barely is until... And the only, like, real legislative issue I've seen her get behind is anti-stalking laws, which seems very applicable to her life.
Right.
But, sorry, I don't want to cut you off.
shane cashman
No, I just think, like, I also know these publicity stunts do happen.
I also know there's history of things like the World Series being rigged.
So these things are all plausible.
We say these things, people might think we sound crazy.
There's history, there's evidence of these things happening.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
shane cashman
With her, I just feel like she's such a victim of the ideology that she's a part of and the news diet.
tim pool
I completely disagree.
How many instances can you name of Taylor Swift doing political activism?
shane cashman
I think of that documentary, I think of talking about Biden.
tim pool
So in private, one time she was talking with her parents about how she wanted to help Biden.
hannah claire brimelow
The only time I can think of it actively, other than the time she like held up those Biden 2020 cookies, was when she campaigned for, was it Marsha?
Not Marsha Blackwell.
shane cashman
That's what I'm talking about.
hannah claire brimelow
She was in Tennessee and one of the issues she got specifically behind was anti-stalking laws.
tim pool
And that was in support of Marsha?
hannah claire brimelow
I'm going to look it up because I don't want to say the wrong thing.
I doubt it was in support of Marcia Blackburn.
shane cashman
I thought it was about abortion.
tim pool
I'll tell you.
hannah claire brimelow
No, not abortion.
It was anti-stalking for sure.
tim pool
What really grinds my gears on this whole thing about everybody claiming she's a Democrat psyop is that she posted on Instagram that the Soros family robbed her.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
And I'm like, my friends.
My brothers, when Taylor Swift says Soros bad, you go, Taylor is so right!
And you go to all of her fans, and you're like, can you believe what the Soroses did to Taylor?
They're bad!
And then what you do is, when they're like, yeah, that is bad, you go, now look at this article about George Soros and everything else he does.
And they're gonna be like, wow, those are bad people.
She primed an entire generation to be aware of and angry with the Soroses.
And for some reason, there are conservatives hellbent on pushing the narrative that despite the fact she publicly complained she was robbed by them, she's secretly working for them.
hannah claire brimelow
No, if she's a psyop, my thought is that she's actually unintentionally a psyop for the country's pro-natalist movement.
I love all those articles that are like, if they get engaged this summer, there will be a baby boom.
Because all of these girls will look at their boyfriends and say, but where's my ring?
We need to have children immediately, like when Taylor Swift declares that it is time.
Because, I mean, what's interesting about her tour right now is it's the Aeros tour, right?
She's giving a little bit of music from everything she's put out.
So she is sort of capstoning her career.
She's got this attractive new boyfriend.
She could push off the coast, have some kids, inspire women around her.
I don't think it's a Democrat thing.
I think it's a pro-natalist thing.
shane cashman
I'm actually going to combine what you both are saying, and I'm actually going to say, screw what I was saying earlier about her not being a PSYOP, and actually she's positioning herself to become the new Soros.
After that era is over, she becomes Soros.
tim pool
What if the real what's happening is that China, through apps like TikTok and social media, have been manipulating digital platforms to make young people sterilize themselves, get abortions, and push all this stuff.
And the real PSYOP is, as you described, getting Taylor Swift to have this movie-esque romance relationship at the Super Bowl, then announce she's having babies to get all the young girls to try and be wives and have babies and reignite America.
hannah claire brimelow
Look, I'm in love with you guys.
Someone can go into the archives of pop culture crisis.
I gave this theory a long time ago because when she broke up with her other boyfriend of six years, which by the way, that's too long to date, I'm sorry, it just is.
She would write these lyrics about how, like, she wants to be married, she wants to have a child, whatever else, and then they broke up.
tim pool
And so I honestly think she's 34 years old, she is ready to settle down, she's at the capstone of her career, she is going to lead our country's rising birth rates, and I think we should all thank her for Maybe, but going back to this big thing where everyone's claiming she's going to endorse Democrats, they're saying, it frustrates me, but a lot of conservatives are like, she's secretly working for Soros, she's going to endorse Joe Biden, now the Democrats win.
Let me show you some numbers to assuage your fears.
A Taylor Swift Instagram post helped drive a surge in voter registration from September 22nd, 2023.
I saw a post by that guy, Brian Tyler Cohen or whatever his name is.
They love playing these weird games.
He said voter.org saw 150,000 people visit the site and a 115% increase in 18-year-old voters.
people visit the site and a 115% increase in 18 year old voters. The wild thing about it is,
first, the 115,000 people, 150,000 people showing up on that day is relative to nothing.
He didn't say it was an increase or a decrease.
It's quite literally just their standard traffic.
Check us out from NPR.
They say, when Taylor Swift speaks, her fans listen.
No, they don't.
That's actually fake news.
On Tuesday morning, the singer posted a short message on Instagram encouraging her 272 million followers to register to vote.
Afterward, the website she directed her fans to, the nonpartisan nonprofit Vote.org, recorded more than 35,000 registrations, according to the organization.
They say the 35,000 new registrations on National Voter Registration Day were the most since 2020, the organization said, and a 23% jump over last year.
matter, you scroll down, the 35,252 new registrations on National Voter Registration Day were the
most since 2020, the organization said, and a 23% jump over last year.
Do you know what that means?
The most we can attribute to Taylor Swift's post is 8,107 voters.
She's got 272 million followers.
They're not all American, but I'd have to estimate more than half are.
Well, maybe even not.
272 million?
Yeah, she's probably got 100 million followers.
hannah claire brimelow
I think half is an easy thing to estimate.
unidentified
Half?
tim pool
Yeah, because she's an American personality but with massive worldwide appeal.
Even 100 million.
Half of those are probably already registered to vote.
So let's say 50 million unregistered.
You know what?
I'm sorry.
Let's be as fair as possible.
Let's say only 50 million of our followers are American.
Half are unregistered.
25 million?
She got 8,000 people to register!
I'm sorry.
She could not get people to sign up for our website for free.
And everyone's like, she's gonna endorse the Democrats.
Yo, I ain't worried about it at all.
When Brian Tyler, or whatever his name is, tweeted this, I checked the numbers and the fascinating thing is, when it said a 115% increase in 18-year-old voters, that number was like 17.
It was like a remarkably small number increase.
And it's like it was a 72% increase from 2019 and 115% from last year.
And I'm like, wait a minute.
That means even less people registered the year before.
hannah claire brimelow
How many people has Scott Pressler personally registered in comparison?
Who is more effective, Taylor Swift or Scott Pressler?
tim pool
No question.
Substantially more than Taylor Swift.
shane cashman
I wouldn't doubt it.
tim pool
Easily.
shane cashman
I wouldn't doubt it.
Much like modern feminism being demeaning to women, this idea that Taylor could change a woman's vote is weird because I also wonder how many conservative women are fans of Taylor's and they could separate her politics with her art.
I see a lot on Twitter.
hannah claire brimelow
Can you do that?
shane cashman
You know what?
What a weird idea, right?
steve baker
Can you correlate the apparent disinterest in her fans and their politics to her fans' taste in music?
tim pool
I guarantee Facebook's algorithm knows your political persuasion.
Even if you don't say you're a Republican, it'll map it all out.
shane cashman
For sure.
tim pool
So for Taylor Swift on Instagram, they know exactly who's voting.
And we know this is true because we had Dr. Robert Epstein on, and he said that Facebook Sent Democrats 100% of Democrats got a reminder to vote on Election Day Only I was at 59% of Republicans.
shane cashman
Yeah got the same message people need to watch that episode It's on the culture war.
unidentified
It's a crazy crazy episode Like, how do you cheat an election?
tim pool
It's really easy.
Facebook says all Democrats get reminded to vote.
Half are Republicans.
unidentified
That's it.
tim pool
They're allowed to do it.
It's free speech.
shane cashman
Yeah.
tim pool
What did they do wrong?
hannah claire brimelow
Because they didn't promise to do anything, right?
Like, they don't always need to remind equally.
steve baker
It's free speech until the FBI comes and sits in your office, Mr. Zuckerberg, and tells you what you can and cannot publish on your platform.
tim pool
No, let's be real.
They're likely going to his office and saying, make sure to remind all the Democrats.
hannah claire brimelow
What do you think of Taylor Swift?
What do you think her effect on our nation's political landscape is?
steve baker
Well, I've been in the music business long enough to understand her connection.
I actually get it, although I'm not a fan.
I can look at her, I get it.
You're not a closeted Taylor Swift fan?
No, not in the least.
tim pool
Shake it off?
steve baker
I don't believe you.
No, what I was going to say, if you listen to the song and you can see and understand, if you know anything about music at all, you understand why that song connects.
But that doesn't mean that I like that kind of music.
It's not what I listen to.
I've had to sing it before myself.
tim pool
I like Taylor Swift's music.
Probably.
Not all of it.
Like, some of the songs, actually, I'm just like, that's not a good song.
But she's got her hits that I really do like.
However, I must say, if you asked me to choose a song and, like, Put me up between Taylor Swift and, like, Tool.
I'm gonna pick Tool every single time.
I will put Sober on repeat 100 times before I play a single Taylor Swift song.
That being said, if Shake It Off comes on or Trouble, like, I know the words a little bit, like, and they're fun songs.
I wouldn't choose to listen to it, but I like it, you know what I mean?
It's like, you can like some kind of food, you don't order it if you get the choice.
If you get the choice, you're gonna go for, like, a, you know, I don't know, like a ribeye, medium-rare.
But if someone gave you a filet, that's good too.
steve baker
No, I've had my own corporate dance band for 23 years.
We have to play Shake It Up.
shane cashman
Right.
hannah claire brimelow
It's mandated by law.
steve baker
It is.
shane cashman
Corporate dance band is a good name for a band.
steve baker
It actually should be.
tim pool
Let's jump to this story where it's getting freaky.
Now everybody thinks there's a PSYOP conspiracy theory and this one actually made it substantially worse.
Axe Block searches for Taylor Swift after explicit AI fakes circulate.
So long story short, On Twitter slash X, a bunch of extremely graphic images of Taylor Swift started emerging.
Yo, these pictures were crazy.
And it never ends, because it takes two seconds to make more.
But now, at a time when everyone is suggesting that Taylor Swift is part of a conspiracy to rig the Super Bowl so that she can help the Democrats win in some way, This controversy around AI images happens, which results in one of the biggest social media platforms in the world shutting down your ability to search for things related to her.
This is a media blackout on Taylor Swift.
Twitter X is the news.
I mean, even Elon is talking about it.
All these news industries, news organizations are collapsing because we get our information directly from the pipeline on X. Now what happens if X says, for whatever the amount of time was, you cannot search for Taylor Swift?
Was there a video circulating of Taylor Swift accepting money from George Soros?
I don't mean that literally.
I'm making a joke.
But like, what would, if someone said, I got the scoop, I have the proof right here, Taylor Swift accepting money, can't, and they post it?
Nobody can find it.
shane cashman
Yeah, this is like the deranged evolution of the Barbra Streisand effect.
What happened with the photos of her house back in the day, you take something away, it makes everyone want to go look at it.
And this is like a terrible thing to want to look up.
And I guarantee you, it only made people look it up more.
But yeah, I see that point.
It's almost like they're Hunter Biden-ing the Hunter Biden laptop story to the Taylor Swift story now.
So NuX is just like old Twitter in some regard.
hannah claire brimelow
Is that disappointing?
unidentified
Did you expect better?
shane cashman
Yeah, I was not surprised, though.
I've seen a lot of things that this new company does that are similar to the old one.
I like it.
It's more fun.
The images are terrible.
I wish they'd get rid of all the Nancy Pelosi nude AI photos, honestly, as well, because they are damaging my soul.
They keep popping up on my feet.
I'm like, why?
hannah claire brimelow
He's not searching for them, he swears!
shane cashman
Yeah, imagine.
I really need that Pelosi cleavage.
They're going to clip that.
Oh, man.
steve baker
Great.
Didn't I see today that Elon, his reaction to this, that they're going to add up another hundred employees just to monitor content?
tim pool
No.
steve baker
I saw that today.
hannah claire brimelow
Oh, that makes me so nervous.
tim pool
We have a super chat from Trump1.
He says, look at Benny Johnson's ex.
Soros owns her entire music catalog.
I'm going to break this down for you and help you understand exactly what's going on and why Taylor Swift is your greatest opportunity.
Conservatives, don't waste it.
Penny Johnson posts, flashback, Taylor Swift, let me play the clip for you, it's 15 seconds.
And you can listen to Taylor in her own words.
unidentified
I had the chance to purchase my music outright.
My entire catalog was sold to Scooter Braun's Ithaca Holdings in a deal that I'm told was funded by the Soros family, 23 Capital and the Carlyle Group.
tim pool
What does that mean?
These people who believe that she's a Democrat PSYOP think she is now sold to Soros' family, or funded, sold to someone by that, and that she now has to work for them.
No.
Taylor Swift publicly slammed the Soros family on numerous occasions for stealing her music.
They basically outbid her for the rights to her own song, to her own master recordings.
She got mad because the amount they were trying to spend on the songs was not actually worth what the songs could generate, so she was losing all of the work she had did for years.
She, again, publicly slams them, then says, I own the artistic composition, but they bought the masters.
I will re-record all of my music to sink Soros' $300 million investment.
One of the most epic smackdowns of the Soros family, let me stress, it was something like $300 million, and by her going out and re-recording the masters, she ripped that investment from them to zero while publicly calling them out.
The opportunity here for anybody who actually looked into this and paying attention is you've got an army of teenage girls who love Taylor and when she slams Soros you go to them and like if you're a good dad and your daughter loves Taylor Swift you can go to go to your daughter and say What happened?
What was Taylor Swift talking about with the Soros family taking her music from her?
And they're going to be like, yeah, because they wanted to try and make money off it.
And then Taylor had to record everything.
And then you, as the dad, can connect with your daughter and go, that's dirty.
Why would they do that to Taylor?
Man, those Soros people sure are bad.
And there you go.
hannah claire brimelow
This is the argument that people are making right now.
Like you all see these posts from dads being like, I saw this video of this dad with like his young girls, like maybe like, you know, two, five and seven or something.
And they're all cheering watching the Super Bowl or the Chiefs game because Taylor Swift is there.
And they're like, wow, so exciting.
Taylor Swift is organically driving women to like bond with their dads and to get into football, whatever else.
Like conservative dads could do this too.
They could use George Soros.
They could talk about these things.
They'd probably be pretty interesting conversations about copyright law and like She endorsed Joe Biden.
tim pool
She's in the documentary saying she's a Democrat, all that stuff.
Of course, Hollywood is.
This is what they do.
Big donors, big companies, they go to celebrities and they say, you're on our side or else.
In this instance, They ripped her off.
They bought her music out from underneath her in a dirty move, and her statement was something like, I hope it was worth it.
Because, two things.
The amount of money they bought the music for, the music recordings would not generate that much money.
So she couldn't pay it.
She's like, I'd have to spend a third of my net worth to buy the rights to my music, and I would never make that money back.
But she then re-recorded everything, re-released those albums, and now no one will ever care about whatever the Soros family bought.
So you can criticize her for being a Democrat all day and night, but I am flabbergasted by the conservatives who keep pushing the fake narrative, the lie.
I don't get it.
Seriously, someone spell it out for me why they keep lying and trying to make it seem like she's working for George Soros.
I don't get it.
steve baker
I can't answer that question, but notwithstanding the loss of opportunity that conservatives or Republicans had by what she did by coming out against Soros, speaking ill of him, it doesn't matter.
Ultimately, at the end of the day, another oligarch was going to buy her music anyway, because the mob has always owned the music industry, and ultimately they own the contract.
tim pool
I'm sorry, this is the PSYOP.
Like, guys, if there's a PSYOP, the PSYOP is sock puppet accounts on social media posting things like this.
George Soros with Taylor Swift on puppet strings.
I get it.
It's actually not a completely unfair thing, but...
How can you guarantee to sever any opportunity someone had to actually have a celebrity on your side?
It's this.
This is so backwards.
Taylor Swift publicly criticizes Soros on numerous occasions, and for some reason, the entire wave of social media posts from the right is that she's working for him.
I'm like, that's a sign up right there.
I don't know who's doing it or what, but I'm sorry, if I'm gonna believe a conspiracy theory, it's that deep state whoever or whatever it is you guys think, we're like, oh no.
Oh no.
Taylor Swift came out against George Soros.
We need control of this.
steve baker
Quick.
tim pool
Pretend to be MAGA and claim she's working for Soros.
And it worked.
shane cashman
Okay, but I also have like five layers of tinfoil hats on at all times, and I could be like, well, Soros told her you gotta come out publicly against me.
So then people don't buy the sire.
tim pool
I would agree with that if the narrative was she was against Soros.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
But it's not.
All these conservatives just keep hammering that claim over and over again, and I'm like, That's weird, because imagine if conservative dads were able to go to their daughters and say, I agree with you, I support you, I can't believe they would do this to Taylor Swift.
And now, you're gonna have a dad.
So here's what happens.
These teenage girls are watching the Super Bowl, and the dad is sitting there going, she works for George Soros!
And the girls are going, uh, dad, she hates Soros.
No, she works for him!
Creating a divide between the conservative dads and their daughters.
Because the dads believe something that's wrong, and I don't know why people keep pushing it.
hannah claire brimelow
And then they don't have children, and also her teenage pregnancies go up, and it ruins everything.
Conservative dads!
This is her moment!
shane cashman
Come on!
It's almost like Hugh fractured into a billion different conspiracy theories.
And now people are just, everything's a conspiracy.
Which I understand, because lots of things are conspiracy theories, and the government does really dark, deranged things all the time, secretly.
But yeah, this doesn't feel that way to me.
hannah claire brimelow
It's just, we're such a low-trust society, right?
You can't trust anything that comes out.
shane cashman
Kind of should be.
hannah claire brimelow
We can't even look at Taylor Swift dating the hunky football player and be like, wow, good for her!
shane cashman
But it's also anything that comes out of Hollywood I distrust.
tim pool
Yeah, I think you made a good point about her being 34.
Like, here's a conspiracy theory for you.
unidentified
Taylor Swift is about to hit the wall.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, also, what else is she gonna do, right?
Like, she is already the highest paid female musician.
She was one of the youngest people to win all kinds of accolades.
Like, where does she go from here?
The thing that she doesn't have in her life is a, I mean, she has like a family, like a mom and a dad or whatever, but like, she doesn't have her own kids.
Her best friend is Blake Lively, who has four kids, I think, with Ryan Reynolds.
Like, you guys, you're all men, so you don't understand.
You're going deep into this.
shane cashman
I don't even know who these people are.
hannah claire brimelow
But like, this is the thing.
tim pool
Blake Lively?
Actress, married to Ryan Reynolds?
unidentified
I know Ronald Reynolds. His wife. They have lots of kids together. So they'll adopt Taylor.
hannah claire brimelow
I think she is like one of their, I don't know, I don't know whatever, but like the thing is,
I think she's one of their like godparents or something, but like I think ultimately Taylor
Swift is so interesting to me because she represents this thing that all women were
supposed to do, which is to rise to the top and to be mad at men because they take their career away
even though they're clearly succeeding where men could never succeed.
I'm sorry, there's just no male pop star that has this kind of attention or female fans.
And yet, ultimately, She gets out of this six-year relationship, she's singing constantly about wanting to start a family and get married, and now she's with this other guy who's been on his podcast saying, yes, I want to be married.
He does his podcast with his brother, who's happily married to his college sweetheart with multiple children.
This is the rise of a pro-natalist, pro-family movement, and conservatives just need to embrace it, stop making everything bad.
tim pool
Or steal it!
hannah claire brimelow
Co-opt it!
tim pool
Come on, team!
If the truth is that Taylor Swift is a big psy-op and she's, like, gonna go Democrat ever, the narrative from the right needs to be to take control of the river, that massive force coming at you, and divert it by, instead of attacking the things she does with Democrats, support the things she's doing.
Like, I love that Taylor says she wants to have a family.
She's right.
And Travis saying the same thing?
How wholesome.
I actually am really inspired she doesn't like George Soros.
What a good person.
Make that the focal point.
shane cashman
Right.
Also, I've been thinking, I'm not a fan of hers.
I can appreciate some songs, but like the work ethic that went into re-recording everything is crazy.
Like, didn't Michael Jackson buy all the Beatles music?
steve baker
That's the last time I cared about who bought whose catalog was when Jackson bought all the Beatles books.
shane cashman
Can you tell that story really quick?
Isn't it like McCartney?
Didn't McCartney tell Jackson you should own a music catalog and then Jackson turned around and bought the Beatles?
steve baker
He actually outbid McCartney for his own songs.
But see, here's the difference between what we're talking about now and then.
There was no politics involved in that at all.
Now, everything is shaded by politics.
We can't get away from it.
tim pool
Man, it's just Taylor Swift pulled off what may be one of the biggest FUs to the Soros family ever.
They bought music for something, I think it was, can you fact check me on this?
I think it was $300 million.
And then by her re-recording it all, she ripped $300 million out of their pockets.
That's because their investment becomes zero.
steve baker
So they bought the masters, not the publishing.
tim pool
So she owns the artist composition, which means the song's core.
The recordings she did were bought by Soros and the Carlyle Group and these other investors.
By re-recording it, that investment was worthless now.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Just absolutely worthless.
hannah claire brimelow
He sold it for close... It's never been disclosed, but they believe it's north of $300 million.
shane cashman
By he, you mean Scooter Braun?
tim pool
Scooter Braun.
Yep.
And she was saying something like, it's not worth it.
Imagine all those songs on streaming platforms, how much money will it generate?
Nowhere near that much in their lifetime.
That means she would have to Like, it may have been that they knew Taylor wanted her career.
This is her life's work.
And they were probably thinking, like, you're a billionaire.
If you want it, we're going to drive the price up to 300 million.
You'll never make that money back.
It's ours.
steve baker
Was she smart enough to realize it wasn't worth it?
tim pool
Yes.
And here's the thing.
hannah claire brimelow
Converting Swifty Fanto.
tim pool
This may have been the move to try and control her.
Basically, you're a high-profile celebrity, you work for us now, or we will own your life's work and you can do nothing about it.
Instead, she goes, I will re-record every single song and you will get nothing.
hannah claire brimelow
You know who told her to do that?
Kelly Clarkson.
unidentified
Really?
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
unidentified
I'm just telling you, it's like a fascinating wave of characters that you wouldn't expect.
shane cashman
This is a great way to bridge the divide between Kanye and Taylor.
It should happen because this is all Kanye was railing against a year ago.
My contract, people owning my stuff, this is what Prince talked about, you know, and like... This is why Gilmore Girls came off the air, it's all the things that are important to me.
She came out unscathed, you know?
I don't think Kanye did.
tim pool
Let's jump to completely away from American pop culture, go back to Civil War.
I got good news for everybody.
From American Military News, 18,000 Border Patrol agents support Texas and blast the Biden administration.
A statement released Thursday by the NBPC, which is the official union of over 18,000 Customs and Border Protection employees, pushed back against what the union described as fake news reports that the Border Patrol agents would be arresting Texas National Guardsmen at the border.
Quote, Rank-and-file BP agents are not going to start arresting Texas National Guard members for following their lawful orders.
That's fake news.
The Texas National Guard and rank-and-file BP agents work together and respect each other's jobs, period.
If Texas National Guard members have lawful orders, then they have to carry out those orders.
So this is great.
And I think it shows the emperor has no clothes.
Joe Biden is impotent here.
I don't know that I believe it completely.
Things are always not what they seem.
It may be that the Customs and Border Patrol agents are, no, no, no, we're not going to do any of that stuff.
We're, they're doing lawful orders.
But behind the scenes, CBP is just saying, say this, avoid conflict, or the unionists, avoid the conflict, but try and keep doing your job.
I wanna be optimistic.
Joe Biden says, go fight.
CBP says, we're not gonna fight over this.
Texas National Guard, they're in the right.
No conflict, we move on.
I think it's a good thing because as I've said before, the win condition for the left is a civil war starting, not fighting a civil war and winning.
So I wanna give a shout out to all the, you know what I love?
These leftists who love putting my name in their YouTube videos and then arguing something I've never been in favor of.
They were like, Tim Pool's arguing about civil war, blah blah blah, and I was like, I have literally said your win condition is starting a civil war and we want to avoid it at all costs.
So, thank you and have a nice day.
But yeah, I don't know what you guys think.
shane cashman
think good news? Yeah, I know when I was with Carrie Lake, her Senate announcement, she
shared letters. She read one with me from a guy who was working border patrol, who was
like, this place is defunct. They're not running this place properly. We need help. I shared
that one letter in the last Carrie Lake article I wrote for scanner. So like people obviously
are going against the administration.
I just know that it came up because someone was asking me about it and like how does these things happen.
It's terrifying.
tim pool
Yeah, wasn't there like some big story where someone died from a fentanyl-laced pot recently?
shane cashman
I didn't see it.
tim pool
I can't remember exactly what the story was.
I just know that it came up because someone was asking me about it.
And like, how does these things happen?
I'm like, it sounds like they're trying to kill people by doing it.
shane cashman
I believe, yeah.
I believe they are.
steve baker
I'm blanking on who it was, but it's a famous celebrity son.
shane cashman
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
shane cashman
It was the guy from Pawn Stars, right?
steve baker
Yeah, Pawn Stars.
shane cashman
He said, and he blamed, he literally blamed the border.
steve baker
Yes.
shane cashman
Yeah.
Absolutely.
At Carrie Lake's announcement, she filled the stage with parents who lost children to fentanyl in various ways, whether it was like, you know, bring it back to Prince really quick.
People forget Prince was on different pain meds.
Someone gave him a counterfeit pill that was fentanyl and that's what, Same with Mac Miller, right?
Didn't Mac Miller die?
I'm not sure if it was fentanyl with Mac Miller or something else, but I know if Prince it was it's it's
everywhere It's prevalent no one's safe
I'm not Prince and not you know the people in these border towns and the rest of this country Des Dickerson who was
steve baker
Prince's guitar player in the revolution. He's the other one of the kamikaze headband in 1999 sang some of the song
you You know the song.
unidentified
Yes.
steve baker
Well, Des has been a good friend of mine for over 30 years, and he told me absolutely 100% that Prince, that was an accident.
This was not something that Prince did to himself by... Oh yeah, I believe that.
shane cashman
And they never talked...
The person who gave him the counterfeit, right?
We know Michael Jackson was killed by a doctor, and he spent two years in jail.
But Prince's, whoever gave him the counterfeit drug, that was fentanyl.
hannah claire brimelow
I never recall.
Mac Miller was fentanyl, and they put whoever gave it to him in jail as well.
It's weird.
I mean, I feel like the obvious answer is close to the border, but people have been so averse to it for so long, we're really feeling the consequence of it now.
tim pool
I feel like it's another easy attack vector for China.
hannah claire brimelow
Yes.
tim pool
Pot laced with fentanyl, and then a bunch of young people die.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, someone from the Biden administration is meeting with a representative from China this week, I'm pretty sure.
This happened once before earlier this year.
Biden met with Xi Jinping in San Francisco, I think, and they were like, so tell us that you'll stop because a lot of stuff that goes into fentanyl is manufactured in China and shipped to Mexico and comes across the border.
And he was like, so please tell us you'll stop that.
And they were like, We'll see.
We'll think about it.
We'll work with you.
The fact that we couldn't even get China to commit to being like, OK, fine, we'll stop shipping fentanyl.
They're like, we're in a weak position because we made our border weak.
And by the way, people fly, I mean, Chinese people will fly to both South America and to Canada to then traverse into America through the border.
We're bad on both sides, right?
The US-Mexico border has been weak for a long time, and we're seeing the effect of it now.
But I think it's also important to start talking about what's happening on the northern border where they are seeing And a rise in illegal crossings.
And especially during this time of year, it's incredibly dangerous for both the border forces that are out there and the people who are crossing, because you can actually freeze to death.
serge du preez
I appreciate that you bring that up.
The Canadian on the cast bringing that up.
Thank you very much.
hannah claire brimelow
Look, team, Canada is important, too.
It hangs out there.
But not all Canada is Justin Trudeau's Canada.
steve baker
I have watched with my own eyes in real time fentanyl being tracked by the United States Department of the military, private contractors, from China, I've actually seen it on the computer screen, being tracked, and yet when it gets to Mexico, somehow it makes it across.
shane cashman
Isn't that like some Operation Fast and Furious situation?
Like we know where it is, we're tracking it, and then it just backfires?
steve baker
It's a sincere desire to stop it, but once it arrives in Mexico, then it breaks down from there.
shane cashman
Crazy.
The cartels are running some of those border towns.
I mean, the amount of fentanyl is millions of pounds at one of those places.
I forget what town it was, maybe near Tucson.
But it's apocalyptic how much fentanyl is coming through.
serge du preez
And the idea that China doesn't know about this, when they have one of the most extensive surveillance states in the world, they're saying, oh, we don't know where it's coming from.
We have no idea who's making this.
shane cashman
Sorry, guys.
And also, that's just the fentanyl they're catching at the border.
There's so much coming through.
steve baker
I'm having a real hard time deciding whether I'm More afraid of what's happening in the Middle East right now?
Are we going to have World War III or about what's going on at the border?
I'm still struggling between the two.
hannah claire brimelow
I think we should put the border first.
I mean, that's my personal opinion, right?
Like, I can't say everything that's going to happen abroad, but I can say it is crazy to me that we aren't all, like, immediately support the border.
It's crazy to me that Texas is saying, or the federal government is saying, Texas, take that razor wire out so people swim across the Rio Grande.
Rather than go through a legal port of entry while they're trying to illegally enter this country.
Like, these are things that are within our control and we're actively saying, but look over there.
Look over there.
Should we get involved over there?
Why don't we shut our own door?
I mean, I've said this before a couple times on the show.
We should lock our door before we say, by the way, this neighborhood is dangerous.
Like, if the world is a dangerous place right now, why aren't we shoring up resources at home?
steve baker
But to Tim's point earlier, it's because the military-industrial complex wants to have the war over there because they can then play with all of their big toys.
They can't play with their big toys.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, why don't they suggest deploying troops to the border, right?
I mean, maybe it wouldn't give you the paycheck that it would if you were engaged internationally, but at least then you would still have some income coming through.
Not that you should be in support of the military-industrial conflict, but I'm just saying they could make money off of anything if they make it look like it's worth deploying our troops.
They just don't.
steve baker
But our troops should be at the border.
Of course.
That's exactly where they should be.
They shouldn't be over there in Jordan in a limited deployment being cannon fodder for the Lindsey Grahams of the world.
shane cashman
I'm afraid you saying big toys overseas is going to give some people really bad ideas of using them on the border at some point.
But they won't because they don't care about the border.
What are they going to do to these people at some point?
Or they're turning on us.
serge du preez
Yeah, these are like our honorary citizens now.
Like, these people that are coming across the border that are given, like, Thanksgiving—in Chicago, they're given, like, Thanksgiving meals and stuff, and they're like, you know, just random families, and it's like, well, we're playing Chicagoans.
hannah claire brimelow
Don't ever try to migrate here legally, which I know your family's had experience, my family's had experience with this.
Like, anyone who has had to do it, you guys have to figure it out on your own, but if you come illegally, we'll give you support.
shane cashman
The border in Yuma, watching the border patrol sit at the wall, waiting with luggage tags and bottles of water and their van to take the people to the HQ, where if they have a number to someone in the States and that person picks up, they will fly you there.
For free is insane, totally insane stuff.
steve baker
Watching these individuals come across and you see the piles of the wristbands, you've seen those and the different colors, see that they are the cartel's product.
And that's what those wristbands represent.
And when they reach different transfer stations, they get a new color wristband.
hannah claire brimelow
But it's cool, we'll continue to let the cartel treat humans like products, we'll promote human smuggling by keeping our border open so that Joe Biden can say, well Trump is the one that closed the border and I'm the one who opened it, aren't I a better person for that?
When actually you're encouraging horrible atrocities to happen to, you know, I'm sure there are some very desperate people who think this is the right path forward, I think there are also people who just know, I can have an advantageous life if I illegally cross into America.
This whole system is crazy and yet we're supposed to pretend that Democrats are supporting something good by saying, no, no, border restrictions are somehow bad.
That seems crazy.
shane cashman
It's another overcompensation.
Even though Obama was the one, I believe, who had people in cages, they'd say it was Trump.
So he's got to overcompensate for the Trump cage.
So by doing that, he's just opened everything up.
steve baker
Well, humans can be a product here, but they're going to be cannon fodder over there.
And that's the conflict that we're looking at.
hannah claire brimelow
Do you feel like during your time dabbling in journalism, the conversation around illegal immigration has changed very much?
Or do you feel like we're just more amplified on positions that parties already held?
steve baker
It's more amplified, and I'm one of those libertarians who does not believe in open borders because we live in a dangerous world.
I have a utopian libertarian ideal.
If I take the test, I'm a full-on anarchist, right?
Except for one thing.
That's not the world in which we live.
That's the world we want.
I wish we could live in that world, but we don't.
So my attitude has not changed.
Yeah, and that I had that attitude.
hannah claire brimelow
What about other people who kind of share your values?
Do you feel like other libertarians have moved to more closed border position?
steve baker
Some have, but, you know, the idealistic of those who are, you know... Purist in some way?
Right, right, right.
tim pool
Let's talk about what's going on with January 6th and your case.
We have the story from Real Clear Investigations.
It's been covered quite a bit over the past few months.
This one is investigative issues.
Independent journalist receives January 6th grand jury subpoena.
Steve Baker says he believes actors in the Department of Justice seek to silence him.
This is back in August.
Since then, you've received notice that they actually are intending to criminally charge you.
And you are a journalist.
You work for The Blaze, or you're a contributor?
steve baker
No, I am now a full-time investigative journalist for The Blaze.
I officially shut down my bands and my operations musically, and I am... So you were acting as a journalist on January 6th.
Correct.
tim pool
You are friends with many prominent journalists, notably Richie McGinnis.
steve baker
Yes.
tim pool
Who was, uh, what did he say to you?
That it would be insane if they went after you for working journalism on January 6th, but now they're coming after you, so what's happening?
steve baker
Well, they actually made the first threat against me all the way back in November of 21.
I did my FBI interview in July of 21, so six months after January 6th.
Actually, no, that was when they first contacted my attorney.
And then we did the interview in October of 21.
October of 21 on November 17th of 21 my attorney got an email from a
Assistant US attorney out of Philadelphia who said your client that would be me is going to be charged within the
week And that within the week that was in 2021
Yes That would have been that would have been Thanksgiving week
of 21 that they originally threatened me with charges We went on a media and a press offensive instantly, you
know Press release started doing you know podcasts and TV and
radio interviews and things of that nature And so that among other things, we think they backed off.
They were like, you know, this guy's too big of a pain in the butt for us to deal with.
So they just moved me to the bottom of her pile, the assistant U.S.
attorney.
And so we didn't hear from them for 20 months.
They went away.
Now, for 20 months, though, I kept waiting for those red dots in my bedroom window every morning.
It's six o'clock.
People think I'm joking when I say this.
I don't have to set an alarm anymore.
Six o'clock every morning I wake up and I look for the red dots in my window.
tim pool
What do you mean red dots?
steve baker
The SWAT red.
tim pool
Lasers being weapons pointed at you?
steve baker
Yeah, yeah.
Of course that's not, you know, they don't actually use red dots anymore.
tim pool
Because it would be at two in the morning, that's what I understand.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
steve baker
But it's what I expect or what I'm fearful of and I've had that burden in my gut for that long.
And so 20 months went by and then In August, as you can see from that, uh, the date on that article right there by Joe Hanneman, that in August, I got another call from my attorney said, okay, and now we have a, uh, grand jury subpoena for you.
And now we're subpoenaing, subpoenaing your work from January 6th.
So they wanted my videos, which was completely unnecessary because we not only offered that to them during my FBI interview, you know, free of charge or so to speak with, As a complimentary service to the FBI, but more importantly, it was part of the cooperation.
And then secondarily, we offered it to them yet again to the Department of Justice through exchange with my There's nothing to hide there.
It didn't matter.
I don't think I was going to cause anybody that was there on January 6th any harm because they were already on a thousand other videos anyway.
So it really wasn't going to hurt anybody if I gave them my videos.
So that was my thinking anyway at the time.
So we get a grand jury subpoena.
The problem with a grand jury subpoena is that grand juries are not seated for misdemeanor charges.
Only for felonies.
It's like, OK, crap.
What are they looking at?
What are they going to try to do now?
What have they been scheming and concocting for 20 months while they've been silent?
So we complied.
I gave them a flash drive.
I actually confronted my FBI agent in the parking lot at his field office with my attorney standing beside me.
And I grilled him for about 15 minutes about what they were doing for 20 months.
You know, what's going on?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I said, no, that's BS.
You do know.
Because you're the one that actually has to write the statement of facts based upon which the Department of Justice will then file charges against me.
So it's going to be your recommendations, you know, and he wouldn't tell me.
And so another five months goes by.
I'm actually sitting in Thomas Massey's office in DC, the Rayburn building, and I get another text from my attorney.
And it's like, you know, because when your attorney calls you, it's never good.
And so I step out into the hallway.
And he says, OK, I guess this is the big day.
This was on Thursday, December 14th.
And he said they are asking you to self-surrender in Raleigh, North Carolina, on Tuesday.
So it's been the Tuesday before Christmas week of this past year.
So I took my big breath.
I walked outside.
And then I tweeted out that it's happening.
And within 24 hours, you know, I had four and a half million views of that tweet.
And then the blaze went into high gear and there were other media appearances as well over the next 24 hours.
Within 30 hours, by five o'clock, close of business on Friday, the 15th of December, my attorney gets another call from the FBI agent.
And he says, okay, we're going to postpone self-surrender until after Christmas.
unidentified
All right.
steve baker
So now, so my other, my lead attorney, cause I have six attorneys on this case now.
And so my lead attorney, then he takes over.
So he contacts the new.
Assistant US attorney because now they've assigned to me to somebody else during that 30 hour period they took it away from Assistant US attorney Anita Eve out of Philadelphia and they assigned it to a guy by the name of Adam Dreher out of DC So got a new guy young gun on the case and and I guess that's the that's the kill shot You know the guy he's the he's the specialist, right?
so The week between Christmas and January 1st, my lead attorney got on the phone with him and said, OK, what's going on here?
OK, well, right now what he says is that they're going to delay the self-surrender till sometime mid-January.
And because we know Mr. Baker's travel schedule and what he's doing, because I stay on the road almost full time, and he says we'll give him seven to ten days notice before he needs to come in and present himself.
Okay, I'll pass that along to my client.
What are the charges going to be?
Well, I can't tell you.
What do you mean you can't tell me?
Well, I could tell you, but we're not because as soon as I tell you, Mr. Baker will tweet it out.
hannah claire brimelow
As is your right, though.
steve baker
Yeah, as is my right.
Now, technically, he could fall back on the fact that until an actual judge or magistrate signs the arrest warrant, there are no charges.
tim pool
Well, so it's the end of January.
What's the latest?
That's it?
steve baker
Oh, we haven't heard from them since.
tim pool
I think this shows, you know, you look at the Trump-Eugene Carroll case, and There's no justice system.
It is weaponization of... It's remarkable to me.
Trump gets accused by some crackpot old woman of a story that's based off of... that bears striking resemblance to Law & Order SVU, denies it, and the denial is defamation.
steve baker
Yeah.
tim pool
Then he gets accused of fraud in New York.
The judge issues a summary judgment without hearing any evidence and says, doesn't matter, Trump did it.
Now in the trial to determine the amount of damages and whether or not he falsified business records, all the witnesses are like, oh no, Trump was doing business on the level, it's totally fine.
Doesn't matter, we've already said... So what we have here, I think it's just...
It's proof of they will do whatever they can get away with.
And with you, you're on the line.
You're not some, you know, you're not Ben Shapiro.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
You don't have millions of followers.
But you're not nobody.
You've got, you work in media and a lot of people are paying attention to your story.
If you were like so many of the other J6ers who bumbled about confused, like, I'm not talking about the rioters, I'm talking about the woman I met who said she showed up an hour after the riot, doors were open, there were no barricades, and she walked around confused and went home, 18 month sentence.
steve baker
Yeah.
tim pool
She does not have the platform you have as a journalist, and so now you've put them in this position where they're like, we gotta get him, but oh man, he's too loud.
steve baker
This past Thursday, myself and four of my attorneys in Dallas, in Dealey Plaza, we did a press conference.
Interesting location.
hannah claire brimelow
Did you stand on the little box in the middle of the street?
steve baker
Well, I made sure I took photos of the X in the street, but the point being is that we did a press conference there, and I actually addressed the point that you were making right there, and I said that exact thing.
Unfortunately, there were so many that had come before me already, and I'm talking specifically about other independent journalists who have been jacked up by this system, and they did not have the coverage of me.
They didn't have four You know, great attorney standing behind them.
They didn't have the power, the bullhorn of the blaze behind them at the time, and they didn't have the reach.
So they were completely overwhelmed by that, most of them having to use court-appointed lawyers to defend them that were probably of a leftist bent to begin with, didn't really care about their case.
I know of individuals that have been jammed into what they call these stipulated bench trials.
They don't even know what the client doesn't even know what that is.
Well, what is that?
And they try to explain to them it's a lot simpler, it's easier, it's going to cost you a lot less money.
Well, basically, you're just walking in and pleading guilty without the opportunity to present your case
or present any exculpatory or diminishing, something that might diminish your charges
or you diminish your sentencing, that sort of thing.
But specifically to the independent journalists that have been caught up in this thing, I've watched trials.
This is a great example.
A young guy, Stephen Horn, also from Raleigh, North Carolina.
We never knew each other before the January 6th thing.
But what ended up happening to him is this.
He was 22 years old on January 6th, but he had had a history of doing journalism since he was 16, including acquiring, applying for and acquiring press passes for various events that he had covered.
So when he goes up to cover that event, he actually tried to acquire a pass.
He actually contacted Metropolitan PD.
They wouldn't issue him one.
He went anyway.
He had been covering the 20 riots in Raleigh, so he installed inside of his bicycle helmet a hidden camera so he didn't look like press.
He didn't wear press anywhere, and so that he could blend into the crowd.
He gets arrested.
He gets the four basic misdemeanor charges.
He decides he's going to do a jury trial, right?
So in the process of doing and putting all this together... In D.C.?
In D.C., yeah.
I mean, brave kid.
And I'll tell you exactly why he decided to do that.
There's another reporter by the name of Luke Mogelson who submitted his story to The New Yorker.
He captured the famous video of the QAnon shaman inside the Senate chamber, you know, chanting, praying, all of that.
So, Luke and another journalist by the name of J.D.
Rivera from Pensacola, they basically paralleled each other through the building, took the same thing.
J.D.
ended up getting eight months in prison.
Luke, of course, didn't because when Luke submitted his story to the New Yorker, the title of his story was Among the Insurrectionists.
So he had to get out of jail free card already, you know.
tim pool
He said insurrection.
steve baker
Right, right.
So, but back to Stephen Horne.
So Stephen Horne says, look, I'm going to, you know, I'm going to go declare my innocence in front of a jury.
And so they file a motion for selective prosecution in his case, his attorneys do.
And the judge, a Trump-appointed judge by the name of Kelly, he would not allow the jury to see those press badges.
unidentified
What?
What?
steve baker
That's correct.
unidentified
Why?
shane cashman
How do they?
How?
steve baker
Because.
shane cashman
Yeah.
unidentified
Wow.
shane cashman
It's disgusting.
hannah claire brimelow
He might tweet it out.
shane cashman
It's disgusting.
steve baker
So he would not allow that jury to see these.
I went up to D.C.
to cover that trial.
I was there for every minute of Stephen Horne's trial.
And so I finally reached a level of frustration one day.
I ran out into the hallway to where the attorney's room was and knocked on the door.
And one of them answered the door.
And I said, you have to present blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And he said, we can't.
What do you mean?
What do you mean you can't?
It's the truth about his life, about his career, about his desire since he was a kid to be a journalist.
We can't talk about it.
We're under orders.
We can't bring that up.
And so what they did is the US attorneys denigrated that kid.
They absolutely, completely made any insinuation that he was there for any other reason other than to participate in the riot.
Uh, it was, it was completely slammed and they could not just even show that jury.
But you know, these were the press badges he acquired since he was 16.
unidentified
What did he get?
steve baker
Uh, this was a miracle.
His sentencing was the day after Ray Epps' sentencing, and that Ray Epps' sentencing sent shocked waves through the courts.
shane cashman
Oh, I just got chills hearing that.
steve baker
Yes.
unidentified
Wow.
steve baker
Because he got off so easy with the slap on the wrist.
So Horne only got a year probation and a $2,000 fine.
shane cashman
Still too much.
unidentified
And if it had been before Epps, very likely it would have been jail time.
steve baker
Before Epps was the guy I mentioned from Pensacola, J.D.
Rivera, he was actually the first person from the panhandle of Florida to be caught up in the dragnet early January of 21 and he was the
first one arrested in that part of the country and he was actually contracted by a television
station from Mobile. He shows up at January 6th with his big gear, his big expensive shoulder-mounted
camera and he's going through And he went through the same broken window that Luke Mogelson, New Yorker, submitted his story to.
They both went through the same broken window.
Luke Mogelson had his iPhone.
Luke Mogelson said, yes, I used my phone as a reporter's notebook.
And JD had his expensive gear.
So when he gets home, And the station is all excited when he's driving home on the 7th.
They're calling him.
You got all this footage.
It's incredible.
We can't wait to see it.
Can't wait to get it.
And then when he gets home, he doesn't hear from them at all.
A few days later, over 20 agents show up at his doorstep.
Red dots on his wife, his kids, his family.
You know what J.D.' 's crime was?
He never chanted.
He never said, USA, USA.
He never stopped the steal or any chant whatsoever.
He wasn't wearing all the Trump paraphernalia, that sort of thing.
His crime is he had been and had covered and had been active in the Hispanic or Latinos for Trump movement prior to that.
unidentified
Wow.
steve baker
So he gets he goes to a bench trial.
So he was smart enough not to, you know, to risk a jury.
But the judge in his case convicted him.
And when he was sentenced, he was given eight months in prison.
He spent his first two months in solitary confinement.
When he gets out of solitary and he gets into the general population of this medium security prison in Georgia, the other prisoners thought he was some sort of spy or plant or whatever because... His story's fake.
It had to be fake because misdemeanor defendants are not sent to this prison.
So they're all looking at him like going, hey, we're the pros.
This is what we do for a living.
We go to prison.
We commit real crimes.
Misdemeanor defendants do not come to this prison.
He said no, man.
shane cashman
This is so infuriating.
I feel like you've seen the face of the military-industrial complex in terms of how they've grown out into the media and these people are like the engineers of the false reality where like you can tell that story if you use the right words like we're talking about the headlines earlier, but if you tell it like this, we're gonna throw you in jail.
tim pool
Was Judge Kelly, was he the one who also acquitted that guy for trespassing because the cop waved him in?
Was that Kelly?
steve baker
No, that wasn't Kelly.
I forget which judge that was.
But Kelly was also the guy over the Proud Boys trial.
shane cashman
Do you know what happened to John Sullivan?
Remember that guy?
steve baker
Yes, I covered his trial.
I was there.
I just interviewed his mom and dad just a couple of weeks ago.
shane cashman
Did he get in trouble?
All I saw was that he sold the stuff to CNN.
steve baker
Oh yeah, he was convicted on seven counts and then he was remanded into custody after being allowed to sit in a home confinement for almost three years.
He was immediately remanded into custody and taken off the jail.
tim pool
McFadden.
steve baker
McFadden.
tim pool
Yeah, McFadden ruled that Matthew Martin was not rioting and he was invited in by the police.
steve baker
Yeah, because he made a reasonable assertion and it was on video that when he walked in as he's passing a cop and he's He kind of greeted the cop in a friendly kind of manner, and then the cop kind of patted him on the shoulder.
Wow.
tim pool
McFadden said, you know... This is why, and forgive me everyone, but this is why I say Civil War so often.
The Young Turks make a living off of lying.
It's what they do.
And so, in January of 2022, I think it was, I had made a statement that we were going to start seeing acquittals because in order for there to be trespass charges, you need to have asserted property rights in the first place.
Meaning, if there is a barrier you cross, you are beyond trespass.
We've dealt with this.
So, typically the laws, and the law in Maryland, specifically, I don't know if DC laws, it's not the same as Maryland, but there's probably a tremendous overlap.
If someone walks onto your unguarded property, they have only trespassed if they have been warned they're trespassing.
In the case of the Capitol, when the barricades are removed, and the doors are open, and the cops are holding them open, you cannot claim someone is trespassing in any traditional legal sense.
You would never win.
If you put up a sign that says no trespassing private property or close to the public and someone walks past it, they have now trespassed.
If you put up a chain across the threshold with a sign saying no trespass and they step over it, in Maryland that's fourth degree burglary.
Enter it, crossing a barrier to enter a property.
Many of these J6ers They show up and what do they see?
There's no barricades, the doors are open, and the police are waving people in.
I said, we're going to see acquittals.
The Young Turks, this is what they do.
That's why I gave a shout out on Twitter to Anna and Vosh because Vosh does the same thing.
They'll take a morsel of an argument made, Something like me saying, they're going to acquit some of these people on trespass charges, and then apply that to a guy bashing a cop with a shield or something.
And say, Tim Pool thinks a guy who bashed a guy with a shield is not going to get charged because he didn't know?
There's broken glass everywhere and he's fighting the police, which is literally not what I said.
And so when you have a wave after wave of people falsely believing these psychotic things, they cheer for the government oppressing, beating, and murdering people.
And the best part is, these are the people who claim to be activists against the prison systems while supporting one of the most egregious violations of human rights in the United States of our generation.
People who were walking around D.C.
But you know what the issue is?
They're all Trump supporters, so it's fair game.
If you were a Trump supporter on DC, and you showed up to the Capitol an hour and a half or two hours after the riots, they're arresting these people.
They didn't fight anybody.
They didn't break anything.
They did not trespass.
And these people are going to jail.
If you're Owen Schroer, and you were at a permitted rally, you got a permit for it, but you yelled something like, death to tyrants, you're going to prison.
Because you're all Trump supporters.
And then what you get is the left-wing media, the leftist media, will absolutely lie about
everything that happened for the benefit of making money for their companies.
steve baker
I will tell you that I have had conversations with some of my MSM colleagues who have, of course,
off the record conceded that they've some of those accidental tourists, accidental trespassers,
Just didn't know the DC law.
law and didn't understand D.C.
And they would concede that they probably got to the door, they saw the line of people coming in.
They probably thought it was alright.
We here in D.C., though, of course, we know how uptight it is, and we probably, a local resident probably wouldn't have done it.
tim pool
I completely disagree.
steve baker
That's what they tell me.
tim pool
We have seen, over and over again, protesters storm D.C.
buildings.
There are protests in D.C.
every week.
steve baker
Are they bussed in?
tim pool
Protesters?
steve baker
The ones that are storming.
Are those the ones that are protesting?
unidentified
Sometimes, yes.
tim pool
Absolutely.
Left-wing organizations will get charters.
Activists will show up in D.C.
and they'll enter these buildings and shut them down.
unidentified
Yeah.
shane cashman
Kavanaugh hearing.
steve baker
Yeah.
tim pool
I mean, Kavanaugh hearing is one example, but we had a recent example, a bunch of far leftists were protesting Israel and shutting things down in D.C., in these buildings.
During Occupy Wall Street, occupiers showed up in D.C., everybody entered these buildings, and there were thousands of people storming, like, I shouldn't say storming, but marching through the halls, chanting, knocking on doors, looking for members of Congress.
Totally fine, totally A-OK.
So, when you have historic precedents and legal precedents that protesters do enter these buildings and are never criminally charged, What we see now with J6 is it's plainly obvious to anybody.
It's a farce.
It's a lie.
To the guys who are fighting cops, lock them up.
20 years seems a little excessive if you ask me.
A few months.
But you look at Antifa during Trump's inauguration when they marched around the city smashing windows and setting fires.
Not only were these people never, they were arrested, they were released, their charges were dropped, and then the city paid them millions.
steve baker
And more importantly by comparison to that particular situation after Trump's inauguration was that The Department of Justice tried to prosecute these cases.
They were getting hung juries and acquittals in court.
And so they went, screw it, and they just dismissed the rest of them.
And of course, that is because of the DC makeup of a jury.
I mean, when you're talking about 92.5% of the jurors are the jury pool, they're voted for Biden anyway.
It's a fait accompli before your jury selection ever even happens.
It's not going to go your way.
And of course, what the Department of Justice has done and what every judge that is inside on this colluding in this cartel that they have developed or what I call a star chamber.
is they have decided that there's not going to be a change of venue motion granted to anyone, regardless of the circumstances, regardless of the polling, regardless of the data, the actual evidence that you cannot get a fair trial there.
It's 99.75% conviction rate right now on January 6 trials.
95.75.
If you just take the Department of Federal Law in D.C., it's just over 60% of the cases they win.
It's because it's political.
If you take the average of just over 60% compared to 99.75, you can't help, if you're an honest broker whatsoever, except to conclude that this is a political problem.
tim pool
Why hasn't Donald Trump filed a lawsuit against E. Jean Carroll in West Virginia?
steve baker
Well, obviously he should, but...
tim pool
My question is, we watch this stuff happen over and over and over again.
In New York to Donald Trump, where are the Republicans to literally file the same suits?
Where are the prosecutors in these Republican states to file charges against these political organizations?
They're just not doing anything.
steve baker
All of the attorneys that I work with right now, they all say the exact same thing.
If every single one of these January 6th defendants had been tried in their home district before a jury of their peers, that it would have been a 50-50 proposition in terms of conviction versus acquittals.
And so you have to get outside of the beltway in order to get a fair trial there.
My fight, if I have to go there, it's not going to be like J.D.
Rivera's fight.
It's not going to be like Stephen Horne's fight.
I have the advantage of having watched from the bench in their trial.
I have the advantage of watching how they treated the Oath Keepers.
unidentified
Are you going to go for a bench?
steve baker
If I had to choose for it, it would be a bench trial.
Absolutely.
I wouldn't do a jury trial.
tim pool
The risk there is that the judges are corrupt too.
At least you know the jurors are corrupt.
Maybe you'll get lucky and get McFadden.
steve baker
Or you get them at a time like, for instance, we now know that in chambers that these judges are talking about this 1512 obstruction of official proceeding charge that SCOTUS has agreed to take up.
We know that in chambers they're saying, oh yeah, SCOTUS is going to scrap this thing, which is going to send the entire J6 Routine into into complete chaos people are gonna get their charges What rescinded or how's that gonna work?
That's what they've got to figure it out.
tim pool
I mean The obstructing official proceeding right the challenge to it is It was a literal reference to destruction of documents not marching through a building which bothered someone correct.
That's exactly it So SCOTUS is going to rule and probably say, yeah, the law was made for this reason, not for protesters in my show.
steve baker
And it's already creating chaos because individuals who have already had that charge on them for maybe their charging documents were executed a year or two years ago, and they're just now getting to trial.
Obviously, their motions are being made by their defense attorneys.
No, we need to delay the trial until this is decided by SCOTUS.
And the judges are granting that.
And then additionally, some of the judges have let people out of prison because the only reason they were in prison was because of the 1512.
tim pool
So some people have already been released?
steve baker
Yes, they've actually already released some of them.
They've sent them home, conditionally, until this thing is settled.
So it's already creating problems.
As I said, the re-ups, sentencing, Send shockwaves through I mean, I don't know how going forward that they can sentence a misdemeanor defendant now to prison time Yeah, after what have you said would you think they'll charge you with?
They won't tell me, as I mentioned before.
In my first interview with the FBI, they said, look, it's not our place to decide.
We're just going to turn this information over to the DOJ if they decide to charge you.
It's probably going to be just the four basic misdemeanors.
But when they did notify me that I was going to be charged in November of 21, One of the charges that they were going to hit me with was interstate racketeering.
unidentified
What?
steve baker
I'll just let that marinate for a moment.
tim pool
What does that mean?
steve baker
Because I had licensed and made money off of the sale of my videos.
tim pool
So they're admitting you're a journalist?
steve baker
Right, right.
Exactly.
tim pool
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Here we go.
Christopher Lambert says, and once more, that's right sir, you are the first super chat.
JaschaBeam says, fourth, unfortunately you are second.
There you go.
Big7588 says, the problem with U.S.
healthcare is the patients.
It's the Americans who eat a bunch of really, really bad food, you know?
Let's grab some, what do we got?
Jacob Parity says, hey Tim, could you please, please my future, Could you please my future niece's business a shout out?
That's what he wrote.
It's called Narbar's Candles.
She just joined Public Square and I thought she could use a boost.
Here's to the parallel economy.
Here, here!
Start those businesses, man.
Challenge that machine.
shane cashman
Shout out to Public Square.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, it's cool that Public Square can give people another way to promote their new business.
I mean, the people who shop on Public Square are pretty loyal to it.
tim pool
Public Square has centralized the ability to help build the parallel economy and challenge woke institutions.
I love it.
So, once they become their own store akin to Amazon, but we know that they're not selling garbage and investing money in bad ideas, you know, it's going to be convenient for everybody.
And that's where we've got to get to.
We've got to get to that point of convenience.
The Drunk Conservative says, Tim, did you see the Daily Wire story about the Disney DEI wheel of power and privilege that was hanging up in the theme parks?
I think I did see that somewhere.
I'm not sure though.
shane cashman
Is that a scary ride?
It sounds like a really scary ride.
hannah claire brimelow
Corporate America shaking her boots.
They're like, we do this every Thursday.
tim pool
All right.
Let's go.
Port Film Co-op says, find and watch Europa The Last Battle.
What is that?
Is that about migration in Europe or something?
shane cashman
I'm not sure.
I haven't heard of it.
tim pool
Or is it about the moon around Saturn?
Yeah, I was thinking like spaceships.
Spaceships fighting aliens in Saturn?
It's like a crossover.
No, it's Jupiter, isn't it?
unidentified
Jupiter.
tim pool
Yeah, Jupiter.
steve baker
One of those.
tim pool
Europa, Io, Ganymede.
hannah claire brimelow
It's about immigration to one of the moons around Saturn.
tim pool
How many moons are there?
shane cashman
One of those fake planets in fake space.
hannah claire brimelow
The alleged planets in space.
tim pool
For some reason, I just know a bunch of moon names.
hannah claire brimelow
I think that's a good skill, man.
shane cashman
Yeah, it's good.
While Tim pulls up another one, I just want to say real quick, I checked Twitter and people are sending me AI nudes of Nancy Pelosi.
I am not happy.
hannah claire brimelow
Okay, but you brought it up like three times.
They're like, oh my gosh.
shane cashman
He really wants it.
tim pool
Shane was like, don't send me these photos.
shane cashman
My wife is like, oh, you're just adding more to the folder.
Oh my goodness.
steve baker
I'm single.
Can I put in my order right now?
hannah claire brimelow
The NFL is the same as WWE.
shane cashman
It's sports entertainment, along with NASCAR, the NFL, and MLB, and so on.
hannah claire brimelow
If it's broadcast sports, it's rigged on some level.
tim pool
know where to send it. All right, Tricky Rex says the NFL is the same as WWE. It's sports
entertainment along with NASCAR, the NFL, and MLB and so on.
If it's broadcast sports, it's rigged on some level. Well, there was like some big
NBA rigging scandal, wasn't there?
Like, wasn't it like they extended the finals to get extra games to make more money or something
serge du preez
like that? Yeah, they just...
Yeah, if it was going at the last game and there was a chance for an extra game, they would, yeah.
tim pool
An extra game is tons of money.
hannah claire brimelow
And there have been like refs from professional sports that have been fired when it comes out that they are the ones betting on the games, right?
serge du preez
We're the ones getting endorsements from, like, particular groups to make the game last longer.
hannah claire brimelow
Right, there are corrupt people everywhere.
shane cashman
I saw a funny video recently of Michael Jordan, who was playing on the Wizards, and the ref didn't see the thing that happened, that was a foul, and Jordan tells him that was definitely, like, a foul.
And he's like, I didn't see it, but I believe you, Michael.
tim pool
Alright, T-Rex Pet Shop says, maybe Gen Z is voting for Trump because they don't want to be drafted in World War III.
Trump will be more likely to negotiate peace.
That is correct.
Eric CK says, Tim, I see your videos with tens of thousands of views on TikTok all the time.
So we made new accounts, because that's the way TikTok works.
You get banned, you make a new account.
It's a better way to do it, but still, their bannings are BS.
But more importantly, other people are posting our videos and clips on TikTok, and it's whatever.
You should.
Everyone should post clips from this show and whatever show on those platforms.
And I will say the same thing.
Posting clips.
Very different from posting the whole show.
The whole show, you know, that's a problem.
But Post Malone, he'll post clips on the show all the time.
We love it.
If you want to take clips that you think are from the show, that you think are good and important, please clip that portion of the show and share it.
And more importantly, I hope on X when you do so, you make money by doing it.
hannah claire brimelow
One of my favorite ones was on, I think it must have gone to TikTok first, but I saw it on Instagram, getting sent you and was it Destiny?
And it's your like famous, now hold on a minute moment.
tim pool
That wasn't Destiny.
That was Lance.
hannah claire brimelow
Okay, that was Lance.
Sorry, I get everyone's names mixed up.
tim pool
But it's like when he said that abortions are okay at any point.
It's the mother's choice, but the mother shouldn't be allowed to do drugs because it would kill the baby.
unidentified
And then I was like, hold on there a minute.
hannah claire brimelow
My Instagram is like not political at all.
I'm sure it knows on some level, but like to suddenly see Tim come up, I was like, wow, this must be going quite viral.
tim pool
That clip went mega viral with like tens of millions of hits because what they did was it's Lance from the surf saying, I was like, you think a woman could have abortion?
You should have, you know, be able to have abortion up to any point, even at the point of birth.
It's her body, it's her choice.
And then I was like, what about meth?
And he was like, well, no, because that would kill the baby.
And then I said, hold on there a minute.
And then they inserted Dave Chappelle going, gotcha, bitch!
And that was it.
That version of it got tens of millions of hits or something.
serge du preez
Of course it went viral because you rarely get galaxy brain takes like that.
tim pool
I had a bunch of very high-profile people hitting me up after that clip.
serge du preez
It was wild, dude.
tim pool
Like, a week or two, two weeks later, I have, like, very high-profile person.
unidentified
Hilarious.
tim pool
Send me this message and be like, what the?
And I'm like, yeah, yeah, it's the show, you should watch it.
serge du preez
I don't know, I'm sitting here like, for real?
tim pool
Well, it's funny because what they do is, there's like a clip where it's like Lance schools, like, like, destroys Tim Pool on the rise of LGBT or trans kids.
I never disagree with him on that issue.
He held up a piece of paper saying the rise of left-handedness and I was like, oh, okay, interesting.
And then they're like, aha, he got him!
And I'm like, I didn't disagree with him.
I was like, I don't understand.
My favorite right now is Vosh and Anna Kasparian made videos where it's like, Tim Pool cheers for child labor.
You know what I cheered for?
16 and 17 year olds being able to work part-time jobs.
You crazy person!
So it's like, Vosh goes, people like Tim Pool and conservatives are trying to exploit children to make them work because the children yearn for the mines, which is a meme, that's fine.
But it's just like, bro, my argument was that if you're 16 or 17, you're allowed to have a 30 hour a week job.
And it's like, yes, I had a summer, who didn't have a summer job?
steve baker
I had a paper route at 11.
shane cashman
I was just going to say, I was working at that age too.
I was mucking horse stalls.
tim pool
When I was 16, I worked fast food 32 hours a week.
But you know what it is?
What was crazy to me is at first I was like, they're misrepresenting me.
I'm saying like kids should work paper routes and kids should mow lawns.
When I say children should work, I'm talking about shoveling snow for 10 bucks or like working, like helping your parents at the mom and pop shop.
And I thought they were misrepresenting me, that I was generating fake outrage.
A lot of it was, like Vosh and Anna, absolutely.
Like, they took my tweet about 16 and 17 year olds being able to work 30 hours a week.
But, I found on Reddit, they genuinely think 10 year olds shouldn't mow lawns, shouldn't take out garbage, shouldn't shovel snow.
And I, that was like, wow!
And the comments were things like, To force a child to understand the misery of working for a minimum wage.
And I was like, like, I'm mowing lawns?
shane cashman
They're like, this is why we need abortion.
They can't work.
Life is too hard.
tim pool
There's like, yeah, there's a clip of me.
They say this though, like, I never agreed to be born.
Why do I have to work?
shane cashman
Psychotic.
tim pool
So there was a clip of me from this show where I'm literally like, I'm not saying work in factories.
I'm saying kids should work at a mom and pop shop and help take out the garbage.
And the comments were literally like, that is abuse.
How dare you?
And I was like, wow.
unidentified
I am so censoring myself right now for YouTube.
tim pool
Children, they yearn for the minds though.
All right, where we at?
Let's grab some more Super Chits.
James Richard says, an empire only wins a war if the people fight for one another.
This nation, America, will not.
They're too busy fighting with each other.
Yes.
That's the crazy reality, man.
All right.
Where we at?
JetStorm says, I'm honestly terrified about any case of war.
My mom's uncles fought in World War II Vietnam and have seen-ish.
My grandfather was in Korea.
What the hell was their sacrifice for?
If I go, I'm done, and Spanish double done.
Now, I gotta be honest.
When I think about, like, the Koreas, I understand.
If you came to me and said, we are going to send troops into Vietnam to stop the spread of communism.
I go, oh, there's questions about like the US and whether or not we should have a role in any of these, any of this expansion.
But we're not in an era of global communist expansion.
And I think for a lot of the young communists in the United States, they were upset about the draft and going to war and all this stuff.
So I'm not a big fan of foreign intervention in any capacity, especially if like some other country I don't care about is becoming communist, but I can at least understand the fear of communism taking over, surrounding the United States, cutting it off, and then strangling us out.
Now what do we have?
Why were we in Afghanistan or Iraq?
Like, I'm not even a fan of going to Vietnam over communism, but I can at least understand the threat of communism, you know?
Especially nowadays, it's really funny because it's like, what were the sacrifices for?
It's like, well, I guess to stop communism didn't work.
The communists are taking everything over, so.
steve baker
What's the global expansionist threat now?
tim pool
Anti-communism.
The global, the elite, the World Economic Forum fears Donald Trump.
Nope.
All right, Scott Colombe says, the military is currently not requiring a high school diploma or a GED to enlist, suggesting that we're going to war probably soon.
I believe that was two years ago.
It was 2022 when they removed those requirements.
So it's been a while now.
Joe Robo.
This is Joe Rob.
Okay, there's just two zeros.
Enlisting illegals into the military would negate the check and balance that U.S.
soldiers would never follow orders to attack U.S.
citizens.
Illegal enlistees would absolutely fulfill such attacks.
There are already many people who are promised citizenship in exchange for service.
That actually happens.
It's kind of funny.
Service guarantees citizenship.
They go to these people and say, if you serve four years, we'll give you your citizenship.
unidentified
Yeah.
serge du preez
And this is already, this is already happening in the Civil War, correct?
With like the Irish immigrants coming across, uh, at Ellis Island or whatever, and they just hand them muskets and then send them to the front in the Civil War.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
serge du preez
That's true.
Yeah.
tim pool
You need baddies.
serge du preez
Yeah.
tim pool
Can Girl Asuna says, War with Iran.
Government enacts emergency powers and arms illegals.
Illegal army used to oppress citizens.
Pretty high chances that's what happens.
Still think culture is the answer, Tim?
Still think we got time for breeding to fix this?
Bro, war happens.
We make it through war.
We have an election coming up in November.
Everything that's happening in this country and in the world is not going to go away if Donald Trump is elected or if you do literally anything.
No matter what you do, you are taking a ball-peen hammer to a skyscraper.
The issue right now is, can we get Donald Trump to the top of that skyscraper and start making substantial internal changes for the time being?
Yeah.
We need to.
And we need everyone to work together to start building alternatives so that we can move past this.
But more importantly, as I watch Taylor Swift struggle to get 8,000 people to register to vote out of her 272 million followers, it makes me think about just the total collapse of everything.
When I was looking at the numbers, Uh, I'm looking at Ben Shapiro and Tom McDonald, they're number one on iTunes and Spotify.
And, um, based on those positions, plus on YouTube, plus the amount of views he has, uh, the amount of views the song has and the plays on Spotify, I'm like, it looks like they're gonna actually chart.
And a lot of leftists are saying iTunes doesn't even matter anyway, because nobody buys songs anymore.
Explain, how does that make sense?
Nobody buys songs, so who cares if Ben Shapiro sells more songs than anyone else?
That actually is kind of contradictory.
The statement would be, holy crap, Ben Shapiro convinced people to buy music again.
Tom McDonald and Ben Shapiro are actually able to command more sales than celebrities.
Like, remember Napster and Metallica?
But anyway, I'm thinking about all this and I'm like, the only way they get these big artists on the top of these charts is because they're forced onto these streaming playlists.
Spotify, Apple, whatever, they will be like, this is a band, we're gonna put them at the top and put them in rotation because everyone knows who they are.
That manufactures radio plays and streams.
So, someone made a good point.
There are like workout routine playlists.
People go to the gym, put on their headphones and press workout, and it plays a bunch of music they don't care about.
Don't care about the person.
Don't care about the song.
Will never buy the song.
But that hit?
Put them on the charts.
What is more important?
I think sales is the only metric right now that matters.
I don't care if Taylor Swift was put on the new streaming playlist and they gave her the number one spot.
That's meaningless.
Number one sales?
Like I said, if Taylor Swift could convince 272 million people to buy one song for a dollar, she would do it.
She can't.
It's all fake.
It's all, it's all manufactured.
I started to realize that if Ben, if, if, so we, we got, uh, I think the total sales we got for Together Again was between 26 and 28,000, uh, songs, which is our biggest release ever.
The last, I think, uh, Genocide was like 18 or, or 20 and Only Ever Wanted was like 20.
And so this one was, it was a bit bigger with help from the Daily Wire.
And we are, we hit number one in sales on iTunes, on all these platforms, and I'm like, if we can command more influence than even these big artists, the only real issue is that, they, it used, Billboard used to be, if you sold the most, you were the top position.
Then they changed it to like radio play and stuff like that, but ultimately the point is, you used to need a million sales to be on the top of the charts.
Now, nobody cares.
Nobody's excited for the new song by the band anymore.
Nobody is going out and being like, yeah, now it's like, I'm sitting at the, we're at the casino at Hard Rock Seminole, and they played a song by Paramore that has like 6.6 million streams on YouTube.
And look, I'm a big fan of Paramore, one of my favorite bands.
But this song is not culturally relevant, and it's playing on the Loudspeaker at a casino for all these people, and I'm just thinking to myself, why did they choose to play a song that nobody listens to?
It's all manufactured.
But my main point here is, if it's possible for someone like Ben Shapiro and Tom McDonald to get at the top of the charts, it just shows that American culture is completely shattered.
There is no... There's no unifying culture anymore.
And I'm thinking to myself, like, man, if war happens, it's just bedlam in this country.
No one's gonna rally behind anybody.
It's just...
It's just chaos.
Factions will instantly form.
Various regions might break off and form their own defensive pacts.
And it's not because any of them are mad at the United States.
It's because if World War III starts, a small community in North Dakota says,
we need to figure out how we keep food and water flowing.
They form pacts with other groups.
They're not listening anymore to D.C.
because they're so far away, out of sight, out of mind.
And then you'll end up with the North Dakota or the North Midwest Regional Alliance.
It's not a faction formed out of hatred for the government.
It's a faction formed out of necessity to secure resources at a time of mass conflict and war around the world.
That's what, that's kind of how I see things, you know, potentially going, but whatever.
We'll read some more Super Chats.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
JoelXline says, LOL Tim, even Alex Jones wouldn't go that far to say Swift and Kelsey's relationship is put together by a publicist.
That's silly, bud.
Are you, is that a joke?
You can look up all the celebrities that are fake.
I, it is a common trope where celebrities will meet and the publicist will say, So here's the point of the meeting.
We want your football player to date our singer.
And here's the plan.
It's going to generate X amount of views.
It's going to increase your Q rating, blah, blah, blah.
They do it all the time.
hannah claire brimelow
It's going to promote this movie they just both filmed.
Like it's, I think it's super fun.
tim pool
They do it all the time.
And this is a breakup.
shane cashman
Here's a good example.
It's a conspiracy theory.
I don't, it's not factual as far as I know, but it's in a bunch of books I've been looking into in terms of Hollywood.
There's people that claim that Robert Mitchum was, that the weed story was manufactured to create a bad boy image.
People will always say Robert Mitchum was the first celebrity arrested with weed.
And there's claims that that was all a manufactured story to present a different type of character for him.
hannah claire brimelow
He would be cool.
shane cashman
He was cool.
tim pool
Jeff Bader says, obligatory payment for Tool praise, my friends.
shane cashman
Yes.
tim pool
Not only is Tool a great band, but Maynard, in a perfect circle, has one of the best songs ever, and it's Judith.
I recommend you actually listen to the lyrics, read the story of how he wrote Judith, how it came to be, and then the follow-up songs he wrote about his mom.
Long story short, because I've talked about it, it is amazing.
His mom suffered a stroke.
He then wrote a song criticizing her faith in Christ and in God because he couldn't understand how she would keep praising God despite him having condemned her to a life of paralysis.
And...
It's actually an interesting song because the song is both the son's pain and anger and confusion, but at the same time, a message about his mom's faith and her unwillingness to waver despite the hardships she faces.
And then later on, he wrote about how he finally, you know, talked to her and understood how she really felt.
Just, and it's a great song!
The guitar playing, man!
But then, of course, Sober is just one of the best songs ever written, so... I love them both.
shane cashman
It depends on the day.
tim pool
Yeah, you could offer me up any Taylor Swift song, and I'd just be like, I will put Sober on loop forever.
shane cashman
Tool's one of the best shows I've ever seen live.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, she's not writing for you.
She's writing for girls.
No, I'm just kidding.
unidentified
That's fine.
tim pool
I got no beef.
I like Taylor Swift too.
shane cashman
Okay, so now someone with AI.
tim pool
Like I said, I like Paramore.
Paramore's really good.
shane cashman
Although I think I don't use AI.
I don't like AI, but someone out there should probably make Taylor Swift singing Sober.
tim pool
Oh, please.
That would be awesome.
hannah claire brimelow
That's her next surprise song at her concert.
tim pool
Dude, how do you do that?
shane cashman
I don't know, but I see people, I saw someone did Kanye doing somebody I used to know, and it sounded kind of good.
unidentified
Wow.
shane cashman
Like for, in terms of like, they knew Kanye couldn't hit a certain note, so they did AI manufactured a certain way.
tim pool
I think it's terrible, but... Taylor Swift singing Sober?
And Tool playing... Shake It Off?
unidentified
Shake It Off!
tim pool
Or Trouble!
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, Maynard singing Trouble would be great.
Nah, but Sober is so good.
I just put it on while I'm skating, I just... Yeah, great album.
All right, we'll grab some more Super Chats here.
NYBSFP says, Tim, the Soros thing is being pushed by people that actually know better, but have decided to fight the war using the enemy's rules.
That's it.
Except the problem is, it's not the enemy's rules to sabotage your opportunity.
I mean, we've beaten it to a dead horse.
We've beaten it dead horse, okay?
If Taylor Swift says Soros bad, you go, Taylor Swift, wow, she's so smart and great.
I explained this when I was to do non-profit fundraising.
Rapport is the first thing you have to have in order to pitch someone on your cause, to get them to sign up.
You walk up to someone wearing a Taylor Swift shirt on the street, the first thing you should say is, I love Taylor Swift, Swifties, and high-five her.
And they're like, you like Taylor Swift?
Be like, yeah.
Name a couple songs you may have heard on the radio.
Like, dude, Trouble was so awesome, and I really did think it was funny how they did the goat memes on that one, but it's a good song.
Did you ever hear about how she was complaining about how Sora stole all her music?
That's how you do it!
Don't give up the opportunity!
Yeah, that's brutal.
hannah claire brimelow
At conservative dads everywhere.
unidentified
This is how you connect with your teenage daughters.
tim pool
Yeah.
Wear a Taylor Swift shirt of her with a quote of her saying Sorrows of Solar Music.
The Highlander says, twist ending, Taylor Swift gets pregnant, prompting a mass baby boom just to switch and go pro-abortion causing the world's biggest child sacrifice.
hannah claire brimelow
No, I think if she goes pro-kid, she'll stay.
shane cashman
I hope so.
hannah claire brimelow
Look guys, let's embrace the fact that she's going to turn our birthrate around, and I think that's good.
tim pool
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steve baker
Yeah, probably the main reason I'm not in jail yet is the work that we've been doing at the blaze the revelations that we've made in terms of the The corruption, the Capitol Police, the fact that we have shown conclusively that some federal officers have lied in court in these trials, and more to come.
tim pool
Right on.
hannah claire brimelow
Are you on Twitter?
Yeah, Twitter at TPC4USA.
steve baker
TPC, the number 4 USA.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, it's been awesome having you here.
I was so grateful you could come talk about your transition to January 6.
Thank you.
It's been great.
steve baker
Thank you.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, it's really important to keep that alive because I think people are apt to forget at times.
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So nice to see you, Shane.
shane cashman
That was great.
It was an infuriating conversation hearing about the judges and what's going on with the J6 stuff, but thank you for the work you're doing.
I'm Shane Cashman.
It's January 29th, 2024.
The Neuralink just got put in the first human skull, and Elon, I'm imploring you.
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