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Timcast IRL - GOP Debate CANCELED After Haley REFUSES, Trump Rally Chants VP For Vivek w/Adam Weiss
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Peace.
tim pool
Thank you all for hanging out with us.
We were in Iowa.
Got back at around 3.40 a.m.
I am exhausted.
We got big news tonight.
The GOP debates in New Hampshire have been cancelled.
Nikki Haley is refusing to debate unless Donald Trump is there.
Ron DeSantis says he will debate two empty podiums.
And they were like, yeah, okay, no, Ron, thanks for the offer.
But Nikki Haley did the meme.
And so, uh, this is one of the funniest things she's ever done.
She basically declares, or she literally declares, that the resultant Iowa approve, it's now a two-person race.
But she came in third place, so I guess she's, uh, in some way conceding a Ron DeSantis!
I-I guess.
But, uh, I-I think the reality here is, the establishment play is that the GOP primary is the actual election.
Nikki Haley's a Democrat.
She is funded by Democrats.
Democrats are voting for her.
And I think they're hoping that in places like New York City and California and Illinois, when they have their Republican primaries, Democrats show out in force for Nikki Haley.
And then it doesn't matter if Joe Biden is running for the Democratic ticket, because if it's Biden versus Haley, you get a Democrat either way.
So we'll talk about that, but Vivek Ramaswamy announced last night that he was dropping out of the race, and I think we kind of realized it because, you know, we really like Vivek, he's a great guy, but with all due respect, he did cancel on us while we had scheduled him for the show that Monday, and I think it's fairly obvious why.
When the results came in, they were a lot worse than I think Vivek's campaign expected, and so while he was supposed to join us here on Timcast IRL, he ended up not showing up.
And I think we all kind of realized what was about to happen.
But he did then endorse Donald Trump.
He appeared in New Hampshire today with Donald Trump, and after speaking, the crowd began chanting VP over and over and over again.
People are really excited for the prospect, but we will see.
Donald Trump basically said they're going to be working with him in some capacity, but who knows what that really means.
We'll talk a lot about that.
And we'll talk about the primary process and where we're going.
A lot of this stuff going on today with GOP primary related stuff, but there is a big story that I think we may get into.
A report from the Daily Mail that China has gained a function to research a new virus that has a 100% kill rate in the mice that it infected, so we're glad to hear that.
Especially when we're talking about World War III and all that stuff, so great.
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and everything else is Adam Weiss.
unidentified
Tim, thanks for having me.
I can't believe you're doing this show after a brutal week in Iowa and with no sleep, but thanks for having me.
Morning.
I'm Adam Weiss from New York.
I run a communications PR firm and I'm a contributor to RAV, Real America's Voice News.
Catch me there every week.
tim pool
Right on, and of course we have Hannah Clare hanging out.
hannah claire brimelow
Oh hey!
You guys know that, well first, I'm Hannah Clare Brimlow.
I'm a writer for stnr.com.
If Tim collapses, this immediately becomes Brimcast.
It's like a hostile takeover staged by me personally.
I'm really excited because Libby Emmons is here.
libby emmons
Hey, Hannah-Claire.
Hey, Adam, Tim.
Thanks for having me on tonight.
I'm Libby Emmons with the Postmillennial.
Glad to be here.
tim pool
Well, yeah, if you want to do a members only, I'll go to bed and you can do a Brimcast after the show.
hannah claire brimelow
I don't even know what I would talk about solo alone in Brimcast.
No, I could if you wanted me to.
unidentified
It's not the same without you here, Tim.
tim pool
I'm tired.
But Libby is here.
She's Ian.
libby emmons
I'm Ian.
Yeah, filling in.
tim pool
You know, we do these late shows and we fly in.
I get to bed at like, we get back at 3.30.
I'm asleep by like 3.40 because we got to bring our bags in.
It snowed like four or five inches.
libby emmons
It was very snowy last night.
tim pool
So, uh, the car that picked us up, holy crap, it's so brutal.
We could not actually drive from the airport.
We almost, we couldn't land at the airport where our car was, because of the snow.
So we had to land at a different airport, like 40 miles away.
Then we had to have a car come and pick us up, which they didn't know where to go.
Then they had to drive in unplowed four inches in a Honda Civic.
We did have some SUVs, but they're, it's all unplowed, so...
Everyone's driving.
We drove 20 miles an hour.
When we tried to speed up, we were slipping, and I'm just like, oh, this is so brutal.
Finally get home.
Couldn't go up the driveway.
Our driveway is about a thousand feet long.
It's a long, winding, middle-of-the-middle-north path.
And so we had to walk up carrying all the bags.
And then I finally get to bed.
I wake up at 7.
I get back to work.
So, you know, welcome to work.
libby emmons
Well, I wasn't up that late.
I was up until, I guess, about 12, 12.30 working and filing stories on last night's adventures in Iowa.
But when I woke up at 7, I went back to bed.
tim pool
I was like, I'm not doing this.
Nope, I woke up, got to work, and then I was excited to try snowboarding, because we finally have snow, but there's no bays, so it just sinks into the grass.
Yeah, but it is what it is.
And then I basically just slept a little bit and then still had to work.
But we're here.
Serge is pressing the buttons.
serge du preez
Yo, I am.
Good to be back and out of the vortex, polar vortex, death storm we were in.
tim pool
Let's jump to the news, ladies and gentlemen.
We got this from the New York Times.
ABC News cancels GOP debate after Haley demands Trump appear too.
Nikki Haley said she would not agree to more debates unless Donald Trump was on stage with her.
Another debate on CNN was in doubt before the New Hampshire primary next week.
I just... I think it's funny.
There's no primary.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Like, this is not a primary, okay?
This is something weird.
Nikki Haley is not even going to debate Ron DeSantis.
Why are either of them running after Trump won with a historic blowout landslide in Iowa?
It was a landslide.
It was 30 points.
That's the biggest ever, I think the past record was 12%, yet Trump's gonna win, everybody's wasting their time.
However, what do we get from, what was it, I think MSNBC said, I think it was Joy Reid, she's like, you know, Iowa's all white Christians, so they're of course gonna swing for Trump.
I think they're laying out their plan for Nikki Haley.
She is Hillary Clinton.
She is.
This is the election.
The primary is the general.
The general is meaningless.
We were speculating for a long time about how they're going to get rid of Joe Biden.
And I'll say, we were correct.
Joe Biden is not their nominee.
Nikki Haley is.
The election is happening right now, and when the primaries go to California, Illinois, and New York, all of these urban liberals are going to show up as Republicans to vote for Nikki Haley.
libby emmons
Yeah, well, a lot of Democrats have been giving money to Nikki Haley, and we've seen that.
We've seen Nikki Haley donors bragging, essentially, about how Nikki Haley gets all of this Democrat money, and they're all really happy about it.
And also you had Joy Reid, who, yeah, like my social media team last night was checking out Joy Reid as well, and she was saying that Joy Reid lost because of racism.
So they're already embracing her with their stupid ethos.
tim pool
Well, I got a question real quick.
Does Nikki Haley appear on the ballots as Nimrata or Nikki?
hannah claire brimelow
I think one of the interesting things, oh go ahead.
unidentified
I said like a few months ago, I said to a small network, I said, why don't you host this, they said, the GOP wants like a million bucks.
I said, what is this, a money making scheme?
So they want to, the GOP, the National Committee wants to take a ton of money from the outlets, then they want the donors to pay, they invite all the donors to sit in.
So I feel like this whole thing's just a money making scheme for a year, that's all it basically is.
hannah claire brimelow
This is their biggest money generating time period, I would assume, an election year.
Basically, the system they have built doesn't work in this case.
I mean, I was watching CBS last night when they were doing all of the election coverage, and they immediately went into, can you believe that despite all these self-inflicted wounds that Trump has incurred, you know, skipping the debate, he is still managing to win?
Which, by the way, was completely predicted.
I mean, they do not want him to be the nominee so badly, but it's just at this point impossible to deny.
Instead of adapting to the current reality, they're trying to say, he is unpredictable
and we don't know how this would happen.
unidentified
The only person that shocked us was Vivek.
I mean, he rose from zero to eight, right?
He was a wunderkind, amazing spokesperson.
But if we all sat here a year ago, the results would have been the same.
libby emmons
Yeah.
unidentified
It's like we wasted a year and we gave a hundred and something million dollars.
You could have done so much with that money.
tim pool
Well, I will say, I mean, I don't know where Nikki is necessarily spending all of her money,
but if any of it is going to Republicans, it's kind of funny to hear that Democrats
are giving money to Republicans for Republican causes.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, she has spent a ton of money, but it was specifically in Iowa and then in New Hampshire.
She hasn't spent very much nationwide.
I'll pull the numbers in a second from the ad impact report, but, you know, She was trying really hard to have an early victory with Iowa.
She didn't succeed.
In fact, she didn't even win the race for second place despite what she said.
This is now, what did she say?
This is now, it's clearly a two-person race now.
unidentified
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
Sort of like, I don't think you understand.
libby emmons
Well, she thinks it's a two-person race between her and Biden, right?
hannah claire brimelow
Ah, but probably not considering she didn't even make it to second.
tim pool
I just, I gotta, I gotta play this clip for you guys.
Okay, can we pull this, we can pull this one up?
I'd like you to listen to this.
unidentified
I can safely say tonight, Iowa made this Republican primary a two person race.
tim pool
I despise this woman, but this is like an episode of Veep because as she's saying this at the bottom of the screen, it shows Trump and DeSantis in the top two positions.
hannah claire brimelow
And not her, yeah.
tim pool
With 95% in.
It's almost like Curb Your Enthusiasm or Veep.
She's just so oblivious to the fact that she lost.
She's the meme of the guy cheering and spraying the champagne and biting the metal and then he's in third place and it's like, you lost, lady?
unidentified
Somewhere along the line, we started giving out trophies to second place, to third place, to make kids feel good in high school and elementary school.
This is like Nikki giving herself a trophy after she lost.
tim pool
To be fair, we do give first, second, and third place because in the Olympics, you've got thousands or millions of people.
But when the race is literally four people, you don't get a medal for coming in bottom 50%.
hannah claire brimelow
Technically it was five, because as I found out today, Asa Hutchins was in fact there.
He was, yeah.
He got 191 votes and said, I'm out.
His quote was, I am driving back to Arkansas.
unidentified
Did you see though, there was a guy who... Wow.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, he was running a presidential campaign, even though none of us realized it.
tim pool
I feel bad for him.
libby emmons
Did you see someone went up to DeSantis the other day and gave him a participation trophy?
hannah claire brimelow
I did see that.
libby emmons
It was a nice little viral clip.
It was cute.
tim pool
It's very nice of them.
libby emmons
Yeah, because I mean that's really all he's gonna get in the end.
tim pool
He burned down his career for what?
libby emmons
For what?
And you know the thing that drives me nuts is that I feel like he could have been a good candidate and he had such a poor team.
His team is spiteful and mean.
And exclusionary and, you know, like they don't do anything good for him.
tim pool
When we say that Vivek is running the campaign, we hoped Ron DeSantis would, you look now at Vivek hugging Donald Trump on stage at a rally while they chant VP and it's like, I'm just imagining Ron is outside at the window looking in with like a single tear rolling down his cheek like, that could be me.
libby emmons
And it's cold, there's the wind chill.
hannah claire brimelow
Vivek embraced his youth.
He embraced the fact that he was, you know, doing all kinds of podcasts.
He took the new media route.
There were a lot of things that I think DeSantis' team maybe failed to advise him correctly on.
And, you know, presenting this young, fresh image was one of them.
It seemed to me like he sort of became more buttoned up and closed off as his campaign progressed.
And it's difficult to dig yourself up.
libby emmons
He took less opportunities.
hannah claire brimelow
Right.
Whereas Vivek has really presented himself in this beautiful, open, communicative light, which I think is what people want, especially from young candidates.
They are similar ages, they have similar age children, and yet they seem very different.
libby emmons
They seem so different.
There was such a cool thing the other day, it was like a compare and contrast.
You had how Vivek handled a heckler and how DeSantis handled a heckler, and Vivek was like, right?
This was amazing.
tim pool
Vivek always.
On Wednesday, when we did this town hall, the TimCast team was like, they come to me and they go, we asked everyone who's coming to the show to write down a question, and then we're gonna go through them and figure out which ones are good.
And I'm like, no, that sounds terrible.
I was like, we don't want to do that.
Like, that's like corporate garbage.
And they're like, yeah, but someone's gonna scream something crazy.
And I'm like...
I'm pretty sure Vivek will say no.
He will not accept that.
And I was like, I don't think we do that.
I think it's good they prepared questions, but we're going to call them at random.
And so I told Vivek, hey my team, I don't know what your policy is, but my team had everybody draft questions.
He goes, I never, it's my policy to take no screened questions, let them ask whatever they want.
There's viral video of Ron DeSantis throwing people out of his events.
Who said nothing.
libby emmons
Right.
tim pool
Just because he's scared of who they may be associated with.
libby emmons
Right.
Yeah, there was a guy the other day.
In a wheelchair.
Yeah, in a wheelchair.
And so you had Vivek gets this heckler, the woman starts screaming something about climate change, and he's like, how about this?
I'll make you a deal.
I'll hand you the microphone for 60 seconds, you make your case, and then I'll tell you why you're wrong.
And it was a great moment.
She was confused, she made a terrible case, he was able to trounce it in a second, and then there was a clip of DeSantis dealing with a heckler being like, no, I'm doing this, I'm doing this.
You know, no respect, no consideration at all, just sort of, you know, like, muscling his way past the guy.
It was really distasteful.
unidentified
I want to go back to March of 2021.
I think I went to the last fundraiser that Trump hosted for DeSantis.
It was at Mar-a-Lago.
Somebody got COVID, one of the chefs, so they still went ahead with the fundraiser, but it was closed.
About 80 people, these old colleagues and friends I had from Long Island, they hosted it for DeSantis.
March of 2021, so he was still a year to go, running for a second term.
I go in there, I'm with my dad, I'm with other friends, I'm very close to the governor, I'm trying to talk to him, I'm getting nothing out of him.
I'm doing my best, I just moved here from New York, it's terrible, the policies, I couldn't get anything out of him that I remember.
If you meet the sitting governor, who's doing a great job, I'm trying to get a conversation, and nothing's coming out of him, no personality.
Which you can remember.
What do we have?
Memories in life?
I can't remember talking to the governor because nothing came out of him.
Trump is there.
He sees my dad.
He's at a clear distance.
Is that your dad?
He says, get him over here.
I want to take some photos and talk to him.
That sums up the difference.
In that little, you know, moment in time.
And that Trump held those last fundraisers for DeSantis, that sticks out.
And that kind of sums up the personalities.
tim pool
I'll tell you the first story I've ever heard of Donald Trump outside of like the media.
I was in Chicago and I met this guy who was a music producer, young guy, like, you know, college music producer.
And he said that he was, I think he was doing some kind of delivery.
When he's going to Trump Tower to drop off a package or something, Donald Trump is coming up behind him as he's walking in, and he holds the door open for Trump and his team as he's walking in, and then he walks in behind him, Trump stops and goes, hey kid, thanks, and he throws him an iPod.
This is back in the day when iPods were like several hundred dollars, and it meant something, but the kid caught it, and he was like, whoa!
Like, I held the door open for this guy.
I hear stories like that all the time, where Trump stops to make sure he leaves with a positive impact, When I went to Trump Tower during his campaign cycle in 2015, I was with some colleagues and I was like, hey, we're covering Trump's rallies, we're covering Trump, let's go see what his employees have to say about him.
So we decided to get food at the Trump Steakhouse.
Asked everybody what they thought of Trump.
They loved the guy.
They love him.
I went to his ice cream shop downstairs and I asked him, and the people working there said, Trump will show up randomly and call all the staff out and just hand everyone $100 bills.
And everyone's like, we're so excited when Trump comes.
He's such a nice guy, shakes everybody's hands, thanks them for their work, and then gives them $100 cash.
hannah claire brimelow
To be fair, Tim does this too.
We'll just gather around at staff meeting, hands out $100.
tim pool
Staff meeting, here's money!
hannah claire brimelow
No, I'm just kidding.
unidentified
Tim doesn't do that.
tim pool
No, we play poker.
I take the money from you.
hannah claire brimelow
No, but I think that's true.
Trump had that personality and it stayed true when he was president.
I mean, the presidency, I could see potentially you dial it back a little bit.
You have to, whatever.
One of my favorite clips of Trump ever is when he and Melania, my favorite first lady, we're handing out Halloween candy and someone comes up in like a Minions costume and he like puts this full-size chocobar in this kid's head and he's obviously laughing.
Like, there was something... Dude, I gotta pull that clip up.
Please do.
It's one of my favorite Trump clips of all time.
There is something, you know, he's brash, there are times you don't like him, whatever.
There is such a personality that is true and authentic there that you kind of laugh along with him.
tim pool
Last night he brought... Can we just play this real quick?
Because it's like...
hannah claire brimelow
It's the best.
tim pool
One of the best clips of Trump ever.
There's a little spider- two spider-mans and a unicorn princess.
hannah claire brimelow
Melania's like the nation's boom mom.
tim pool
Here comes the minion.
Look at this.
The kid's hands.
unidentified
He can't reach his head!
They both put candy bars on and then they- this is amazing!
tim pool
They slide off and fall in a little girl's bag.
hannah claire brimelow
And it's Melania who's like, well I'll give you another one.
Like, hold on, don't leave.
tim pool
Yeah, that is one of the best moments ever.
libby emmons
Yeah, that's really funny.
tim pool
Look at him.
hannah claire brimelow
He like tests it out, makes sure it doesn't hurt him.
tim pool
And then look, it slides off the head and lands right in the girl's bag.
Oh no, they fell on the floor, they fell on the floor.
That's why she gives her another one and someone comes and picks them up.
hannah claire brimelow
Oh my god.
tim pool
The kid in the Minions costume, his arms can't reach above his head.
hannah claire brimelow
It's just these small things.
Or there's another one where he's on the phone, we don't have to play this code, but they're taking calls from kids around Christmas and there's one where he's like, you know, wishing, he's like, how old are you, seven?
Merry Christmas.
So do you believe in Santa?
That's right on the edge.
Like, where are we?
Like, he just has the personality that shines through.
And I think so many Americans like that because it's not stiff and formal.
I worry, I think, you know, I think Ron DeSantis could have a political future.
I'm not one to speculate what it could be, but, you know, It's sort of embracing that personal connection that people are really craving in this day and age and it has so much to do with our our personal interactions with our neighbors falling apart to see a president that you can all kind of share these memories with and laugh like that's something people desperately want and the politicians that can do that like Trump like Vivek thrive.
unidentified
I made it sure.
The Heartland proved last night they love a funny, brash fighter, New Yorker, right?
And that's proved it again last night.
And the culture, Hollywood, the media used to love Trump until three, four, nine years ago, until he decided to say, I'm a Republican, I'm running for office.
All of a sudden he wasn't.
libby emmons
Well, he was great for headlines.
unidentified
Right.
libby emmons
He's still great for headlines.
unidentified
Still great for headlines, but it's negative headlines.
It used to be all positive.
You know, an icon in New York.
He did so many wonderful things, building this gate and rink.
He paid for Jesse Jackson's office for the Rainbow Coalition.
libby emmons
Oh, really?
unidentified
Yeah, back in the day.
Interesting.
libby emmons
I didn't know that.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
Let's jump to this story.
We have this tweet from Team Trump.
Flashback.
Trump said, you know, I just found out that Democrats are funding Nikki Haley's campaign.
I hear that Democrats are contributing to Ron DeSantis.
Let me play the clip for you guys.
donald j trump
Just found out that Democrats are funding Nikki Haley's campaign.
I hear that Democrats are contributing to Ron DeSanctis's, or Ron DeSanctimonious, to Ron DeSanctis's campaign.
tim pool
I gotta stop you there, Trump.
It's DeSwamptis, okay?
DeSwamptis was always the best name, but he went with DeSanctis, whatever.
But the conspiracy theory now I suppose.
I don't think it's actually a conspiracy theory.
I think it's a fact.
We know for a fact that Nikki Haley is getting support from Democrats.
Many of the voters that are coming out and voting for her in Iowa, that voted for her in Iowa, are liberaling individuals.
And we have the proof!
It's in the pudding.
The Iowa caucus results.
Trump lost only one precinct, and it was by one vote.
Actually, it looks like he may have reclaimed it.
So this was, where were we?
Johnson County.
Okay, no, Johnson County, look at this, they're not even showing it anymore.
Johnson County is the only county that went for Nikki Haley by one vote!
And as it's pointed out to us, this is the urban liberal college area.
So it's not surprising that it's happening.
But that would mean that many people are coming out for Nikki Haley.
They're in liberal areas.
They are liberal Democrat voters.
And then we have this from the New York Times.
In Iowa, Nikki Haley has the attention of Democrats and independents.
Haley has attracted the interest of non-Republicans who say they'll caucus for her as rivals attack her for an insufficiently conservative message.
This is the play, ladies and gentlemen.
We were speculating.
How are they going to get Joe Biden out of the race?
Joe Biden would have to suffer some injury, get sick, but then he's past the point at which the Democrats can have a primary.
So then people said it won't happen.
A strategist for JPMorgan said, no, he will drop out due to a medical issue.
And my response is that's actually smart.
It allows them to appoint a nominee bypassing a primary, preventing a Bernie Sanders situation.
Vivek is smarter.
He pointed out, and I believe he's correct, he said, no, the establishment play is the primary, it's Nikki Haley.
The deep state will stop at nothing to remove Donald Trump.
And when they do, it's going to be Nikki Haley versus Ron DeSantis.
And Nikki will win.
And that's how they're going to take back the system.
And we get more wars.
We get World War III.
I think that's actually what's happening right now.
When you look at the Democrats voting for Haley, the New York Times is saying it outright.
Donate to Nikki Haley.
They realized we cannot win a general election against Donald Trump.
However, Donald Trump will struggle to win blue state primaries if Democrats come out and vote for Nikki Haley.
But you can't do that in every one.
Of course you can.
libby emmons
No, you can't.
You can't do that in every primary.
tim pool
Yes, you can.
libby emmons
Well, you'd have to change some of them.
unidentified
That's right.
libby emmons
You'd have to change your voter registration that far in advance.
Absolutely.
tim pool
Yep.
And so these people have been planning this for a year.
Look, Vivek said they'll stop at nothing and we can't look back on this in 2025 and say, how did we not see this coming?
He's correct.
So, how many votes do they need to beat Donald Trump?
Nikki Haley got what, nine delegates?
She got eight delegates in Iowa.
She's behind Ron DeSantis, but she is polling near as high as Trump in New Hampshire, and it is speculated these are Democrat voters that have switched their parties.
This is it.
unidentified
In New Hampshire, you don't have to switch your party.
You can be an independent Democrat, vote in the primary.
tim pool
Right.
And so, for places where you need to be a registered party member, like in a caucus, you just do it in advance.
Super easy.
And then there are states with open primaries.
What I think we're seeing, as they're actually rather fascinating, is the end of the Democratic Party.
When they realize you can't beat Donald Trump in a general election, their only plan, their only path is to beat him in a primary.
It's actually kind of scary if you think about what comes after this.
If the general election doesn't matter because it's Joe Biden with no support, The Republican Party becomes the single party rule in this country.
And while many people may say, oh, but that's great.
We like Republicans.
We'd rather they win than Democrats.
No, but you don't understand.
It's Democrats weaseling their way into the Republican Party as their only means of stealing power.
And then instead of having general elections, we have whoever our president's going to be is going to be solely based on who wins the Republican primary.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I mean, I think it's getting pretty desperate on, honestly, on both sides of the aisle, right?
There are a ton of people who do not want Trump to be the nominee.
They don't outnumber the people who want him to be the nominee, but the tactics are there.
When Asa Hutchins dropped out, one of the pieces that I read when I was researching for my article was the recommendation from a Republican strategist that he endorse Nikki Haley, who he shares more votes with.
You know, he's this long-term governor from Arkansas.
I think there are going to be sort of Moments until the end, until her campaign is over, where people are trying to say, well, if just the right people, and she got some states, we can still make this happen.
There's still a way to deny Trump.
And I think that's ultimately denying reality at this point.
libby emmons
Yeah.
unidentified
I think you have something interesting, Tim, because I saw a colleague, a friend from the Hamptons, an older gentleman, Andy Saban, he was on Neil Cavuto last week.
libby emmons
I was just thinking about that.
unidentified
And he said, the interesting thing, we're doing a fundraiser for Nikki at the end of the month, and a lot of Democrats are coming.
libby emmons
Yeah, he said, believe it or not, a number of it is coming from Democrats.
unidentified
Democratic fundraisers.
libby emmons
That's right.
And they're doing a big fundraiser in New York for Nikki Haley.
unidentified
Why would they join Nikki Haley Democrats?
libby emmons
Right.
tim pool
And what are Nikki Haley's positions?
unidentified
Pro-war.
tim pool
Pro-war.
Don't call illegal immigrants criminals.
hannah claire brimelow
Register with the government before you comment anything online.
unidentified
Censor social media.
libby emmons
She's definitely sort of the Hillary Clinton of this campaign.
She's even running on, you know, I'm a woman, elect me.
That's a qualification somehow.
And she likes to talk about her high-heeled shoes.
None of this relates to me at all.
unidentified
I think that's sad.
hannah claire brimelow
I think if you were really a candidate, you wouldn't have to, like, you being a woman would be, like, a fun benefit, right?
But it wouldn't be the major tenant of your campaign.
This ad impacted this study, and they were talking about the top themes that each of the candidates during their ad spends have, because Republicans have spent, like, $230 million so far.
libby emmons
Lots of money.
hannah claire brimelow
Total waste, yeah.
And Trump is talking about illegal drug trafficking.
He's talking about the border.
He's talking about policy.
He's talking about trade.
And both DeSantis and Nikki Haley are talking about China, which, you know, fair.
And they're talking about character, which is just code for they're trying to say we're better than Trump.
And I can't even remember the last thing they talked about because it's just so irrelevant.
They are trying to separate themselves from Trump and Trump is the one setting the pace for politics.
libby emmons
Well, the thing is, Trump is able to run on a lot of the same policies and ideas that he did in 2016 because he had four years, he did a lot of really good things, Biden took over, literally reversed everything on purpose, and now it's like, oh, we're back here now, we have to redo it.
Even look at the situation with the Houthis in Yemen, right?
You had Trump, when he was leaving office, classified the Houthis as terrorists.
The day he came into office, Biden reversed that and he said, no, they're not terrorists.
And the reason that he reversed it was for apparently humanitarian reasons, which is the same reason we're throwing money at Gaza, right?
So that Hamas can massacre people again.
But now he's talking, now Biden's talking about, oh, I better make the Houthis classify them as terrorists.
And it's like, they've been terrorists this whole time.
You know, so he literally came into office, reversed all the good things Trump did, made a whole bunch out of spite, did a whole bunch of really bad things.
And in terms of the border wall, reversed the concept of the border wall and then left all the equipment and supplies just sitting there rotting, waiting for nothing.
you know, with people climbing over it and then had to like re restart up the border wall anyway,
even though now that's, you know, irrelevant now because it's humanitarian. It's just too
hannah claire brimelow
they're gonna try and spin it so that whatever they did was the correct thing to do. But so
libby emmons
Trump is able to run on the same stuff that brought him into office in the first place,
unidentified
the same reasons. Now on to the good things Joe Biden has done. Oh, it's very quiet now.
libby emmons
He's got a 33% approval rating.
hannah claire brimelow
It's rough.
tim pool
Can we think of anything?
Come on, let's be as nice as we can.
unidentified
Nothing.
hannah claire brimelow
He's been pro-pardoning people for some drug offenses, which, depending on your stance on that, that could be perceived as a good thing.
He was.
He's given us some of the best memes of the day and age.
tim pool
The marijuana pardoning thing was dumb because there's nobody in prison at the federal level.
libby emmons
In federal, exactly.
tim pool
For possession.
unidentified
Look, with all the rambunctious left progressives with anti-Israel, he stood up a little bit, but I read recently he hasn't talked to Bibi, the prime minister, in like three or four weeks.
hannah claire brimelow
That's right.
unidentified
Yeah, but he's not.
tim pool
Being wishy-washy is like, what's a good thing he's done?
Being like halfway there is not a good thing.
It's like, well, he was like tepid here.
unidentified
No, no, no.
tim pool
What was he good on?
I'm trying to be honest.
hannah claire brimelow
I want to think of something because I feel like it's too easy to be like everything he did is awful and he's terrible.
Like, I want to be, you know, you know, analytical and say like, well, maybe this was good, but it's very hard.
libby emmons
Well, I remember during Trump's presidency.
So when he won in, you know, when he won in 2016, I remember thinking, okay, like I didn't
vote for Trump in 2016, but he's the president.
I'm going to support the president and I'm going to watch what he does and see, you know,
see what his policies are and go from there.
And then every, like he kept coming out with policies.
I was like, that's good.
Well that's good.
That's good.
I was like, I didn't vote for Biden.
You know, I wisened up.
I voted for Trump.
I didn't vote for Biden.
And I thought, OK, well, you know, I'll watch.
I'll see what he does.
And everything that he did, every executive order, I kept reading the executive orders.
This is a terrible idea.
This is this is destructive.
This is destroying everything.
I can't think I've been tracking his His time in office, since he took over, and I can't think of a single good thing that he did where I was like, oh, that's good.
I'm glad he did that.
I can't think of anything else.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
I mean, even with Obama, I remember he made some efforts to encourage private investment in space travel.
And I was like, that's good.
unidentified
Yeah, right.
tim pool
But was Hunter Biden on the board of the space travel company?
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, that's always the question.
I mean, it's to me not a good sign that there is a president that we can't off the bat be like,
this one seems OK.
libby emmons
Well, look at what he did on his first day in office, right?
He pushed equity.
He pushed weird gender stuff.
He reversed the border wall.
He declassified the Houthis as terrorists.
He did so many terrible things.
hannah claire brimelow
And he said during his first campaign speech a couple weeks ago, the Republicans
are all focused on the past.
And then all he did was talk about January 6.
But that's actually been the theme his administration the whole time.
Everyone is saying, oh Trump is saying revenge and he's going to do whatever, but actually it's Democrats who have been acting out of spite, right?
The fact that he reversed, his first day in office, reversed a ton of Trump policies just because Trump did them to prove to his base that Trump is bad and then let us all suffer the consequences of his, you know, spite is not good.
Out of the two of them, who talks more about the future and who harps on the past non-stop?
The Democrats harp on the past.
tim pool
Let's jump to the story from the independent, DeSantis Fury, after Trump is projected Iowa caucus winner before some even started voting.
Language from the DeSantis campaign echoes Trump's own election denialism.
It's kind of sad because DeSantis had said previously that if Donald Trump loses in Iowa, he will claim it was fraudulent or it was untoward or something like that.
And now that Donald Trump has won, it is actually DeSantis' campaign saying that something was afoul here.
But here's the real conspiracy, my friends.
As many of you may know, if you were watching the Iowa caucuses last night, within about a half an hour of the caucuses beginning, they called the race for Donald Trump.
The Associated Press said, we have seen enough.
Trump is the winner.
Now, of course, the DeSantis campaign is saying that's not fair.
People haven't voted yet.
This is a trick to help Donald Trump.
DeSantis' campaign staff even said that.
The media's pro-Biden.
They want Trump to be the nominee because they want Trump to run against Biden so Biden can beat him.
These people are as dumb as a box of rocks.
I'm sorry, that's offensive to rocks.
The reality is, this was a play against Donald Trump.
And I'll break it down for you, and I am right.
Okay, maybe I'm wrong, but okay, but hear me out.
Think about this.
Whose election is it to lose?
Donald Trump.
If you're a DeSantis supporter, you know entering this race you are facing an uphill battle.
You know that if you want Ron to win, you must fight tooth and nail.
And so you're sitting there ready to caucus, and you get a push notification that says Trump is the winner.
You knew.
You knew Trump was the favorite here.
You know that to win you must do your duty.
Why would you leave?
Now hold on.
You're a Trump supporter.
You know Trump is going to win.
Everyone is telling you the race is pointless.
Why are we even having a primary?
Trump is up 30-40 points.
You're sitting there in minus 15 degrees in your caucus location and your phone burp and you look down it says Trump is the projected winner already and you go okay.
I knew we won.
I don't need to be here.
Everybody knew Trump won.
I'm going home.
The reality is it was Trump's to lose.
And the only people who I would say Trump supporters are more likely to leave having already believed they were going to win in the first place.
And this is brought up by Trump and many Republicans that because the polling favors Trump so much, Trump supporters are more likely to be like, well, I guess Trump already won.
Why do I need to show up?
This is what they warn about.
Some people say this is what cost Hillary Clinton 2016.
They were so confident Hillary would win that many Democrats were like, why even bother showing up?
So this is not a play against DeSantis.
It is not media bias for Trump.
It is media bias against Trump to trick Trump supporters, and it didn't work.
Or if it did, it wasn't enough.
unidentified
You got a great point, Tim, because right before we went on air, I read an article in Politico on their newsletter that says Trump won, but only 7% of the Republicans came out.
So that's their story line, right?
tim pool
Lowest turnout in a decade.
unidentified
So if you're standing on line or waiting to vote, and I know it wasn't there, you were, how cold is it?
You're like, oh, Trump won, let me go home.
You're not going to wait anymore.
tim pool
Exactly.
But if you're a DeSantis, Haley, or if you're an opposition voter, you're going to be like, we all knew they were going to call for Trump.
We have to stay here and try and get our candidate to win.
If, you know, come 2024, I mean the election in November, Trump supporters are not going to back down because they know you need a tsunami of votes to win.
This is why I think the play is to get, this is why I think the primary is the general.
Nikki Haley is the Democrat.
She's running in the primary to beat Trump, and she's going to try and beat him in major urban strongholds.
The play here is, well, it's basically that.
They are going to try to convince Trump supporters that the GOP primary, it's done deal, done deal, Trump can't lose, don't even bother coming out.
And that might work.
See, because everybody's saying, come November, everyone must vote, bring your friends, don't assume Trump will win because that's how they trick you.
But in the primary, everyone's like, I got Trump won already.
unidentified
And RFK gave up on the primary, right?
He said this is a rigged primary.
But at first he was a Democrat.
He said, this is too rigged.
I can't run it.
There's another congressman, I believe his name is Dean Phillips, ran.
He's getting no attention.
libby emmons
I think he's doing okay in New Hampshire right now.
unidentified
So the play is probably let's get as many Democrats as we can in New Hampshire and vote for Nikki Haley.
And this way we can somehow stop Trump.
If we can, if she can win New Hampshire, then it's, you know, Nikki ahead.
tim pool
This is what the donors and the media and people are missing out that there's going to be a Republican primaries in blue states.
Nikki Haley could win those.
libby emmons
So how many ways are they trying to stop Trump right now?
They're trying to pull him off the ballot, right?
They're trying to send him to prison in New York, Georgia, and at the federal level.
unidentified
They're driving him crazy with civil suits.
libby emmons
The E. Jean Carroll and the stupid Letitia James one, you know?
You took out loans and paid them back!
That's a criminal offense!
unidentified
You crazy, crazy man!
libby emmons
How dare you!
unidentified
Wait, he won the primary last night.
He flew to New York and sat in a civil trial.
libby emmons
That's garbage.
unidentified
And then he just flew back to New Hampshire and did it.
The energy this man has is amazing.
tim pool
I know.
At his age.
unidentified
It's incredible.
tim pool
Yeah.
People will tell me I work a lot, right?
Because I'm barely functioning off any sleep right now.
And I'm like, don't look at me, look at Trump.
No question.
I mean, he's flying nonstop.
I don't even know how he does it.
libby emmons
I don't know how you do it.
tim pool
And I don't know how Trump does it!
Isn't that interesting?
hannah claire brimelow
Everywhere up the level, because you all work really hard.
libby emmons
I work extremely long days, but I'm not flying back from Iowa at 3 o'clock.
tim pool
I've got to start eating more McDonald's, because Trump eats McDonald's and that must be it.
libby emmons
And the golfing, you've got to start golfing.
unidentified
I am not going to eat McDonald's.
It was the Sunday before 2020, right before the election, and I was at a private aviation airport.
It was his fourth rally of the day.
Fourth.
It was 12.30 at night.
He started the rally.
I turned around, I saw New Yorkers I knew, and Floridians everywhere.
It was like 5,000 people.
I said, there's no way he's going to lose this election.
It's 12.30 at night.
There's 5,000 people.
It's his fourth stop, and he spoke for an hour and 15 minutes to 2 a.m.
I said, how does he humanly do this?
If you told most humans you gotta do two stops today and do two speeches, I'd be like, I don't know if I could do that.
libby emmons
But he's also so personable.
I mean, like, last night at his victory speech, he brought Brick Suit up on stage, you know?
That was so cool!
And I like Brick Suit.
I think he's a really swell guy.
And I thought that was great.
Like, he notices his supporters.
I mean, we might just credit him with being an extrovert here.
He really does feed off the energy of people and being around people.
An introverted person would be like, this is too much.
I must leave immediately.
giant things. Yeah. And it's always personable. Yeah. He has. And he can be amazing. I mean,
hannah claire brimelow
we might just credit him with being an extrovert here. He really does feed off the energy of
people and being around people. An introverted person would be like, this is too much. I
must leave immediately. But I think Trump's energy also underscores how tired Biden's
campaign already is.
libby emmons
They should just go back to that basement.
Put on the masks.
hannah claire brimelow
Right.
Trump is younger than Biden by, what, two, three years?
But Biden seems exhausted and he is in the White House with everyone around him.
Well, he has the old man walk.
He has the old man walks.
He has a slur.
His voice has audibly changed.
And it's just rough.
libby emmons
You can't make Weekend at Bernie's jokes about Trump.
tim pool
You know what I was thinking?
Just like, totally for no reason, and it's nonsensical, but all the things, like there's a lot of things we don't like about Joe Biden that are perfectly acceptable if he was a golden retriever.
Like, first the obvious is sniffing kids.
The dog runs up to the kid, sniffing, nobody cares, funny.
Fumbling around and falling down or rolling on the ground, we laugh, aww, puppy fell down.
And then the muttering incoherent nonsense, when the dog walks in and goes, we're laughing, we're like, I wonder what?
But when Joe Biden does it, we're like, this guy's got the nuclear codes.
unidentified
But at least the dog always knows where the stairs are, right?
Biden never does.
That's true.
hannah claire brimelow
Who would be a better president right now, a Golden Retriever or Biden?
tim pool
Golden Retriever.
That's rough.
No, no, for real.
Because paralysis is better than whatever it is Biden is doing.
I mean, a Golden Retriever as president, CBP is going to come and be like, sir, what should we do with the border?
And it's going to go boom!
And they're going to be like, we have nothing, we have no idea.
Joe Biden's like, facilitate human smuggling!
And then they do.
So at least the Golden Retriever can't give orders.
hannah claire brimelow
That's true.
tim pool
But he can get belly rubs.
hannah claire brimelow
And he would just look great.
He'd make us all feel wonderful.
Joe Biden we're just like nervous about all the time.
tim pool
Joe Biden getting belly rubs would be alarming for the country.
hannah claire brimelow
No, I don't want to see that.
libby emmons
That would be really weird, wouldn't it?
And you notice how every time he goes out there and gives a speech, what he really says is, Trump voters suck.
unidentified
Yes!
libby emmons
You notice how he does that over and over again?
unidentified
He's so negative!
libby emmons
And it's like, how would any of us ever come vote for you?
All you do is tell us that we're extremists, that our religion is bad, even though, you know, we're basically just Christian.
hannah claire brimelow
Also, when convenient, you claim to be Catholic.
libby emmons
Right.
That's what I'm saying.
It's like, you know, the FBI targets Catholics, the FBI targets parents who speak up at school board meetings.
Joe Biden calls us all extremists.
And we're supposed to, like, come around and be like, no, it's OK that you're, you know, destroying the country and you hate us.
We're going to vote for you anyway.
Why would you vote for someone who just keeps telling you that they hate you?
tim pool
Adrienne Curry in the chat says, Golden would have great polling numbers no matter what it did.
And that gives me an idea, like, I'm gonna take a picture of a Golden Retriever and just post it on X with a poll, like, favorability rating, favorable, unfavorable, and I bet it's gonna be like 95% favorability.
hannah claire brimelow
Dog people are gonna go berserk in your chat, I feel like.
They're gonna have all kinds of comments about it.
People feel really strongly about their dogs.
tim pool
What's your favorability of random dog I found on internet?
hannah claire brimelow
Yes.
tim pool
You know?
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, I would think a Border Collie would be a better call for president.
It's smarter than a Golden Retriever, but a Golden Retriever would do less harm than Joe Biden.
tim pool
I like a Corgi.
I think I'll do that now.
libby emmons
Yeah, I like a Corgi.
hannah claire brimelow
But that's the British monarchy's dog.
libby emmons
I know, and they round people up.
hannah claire brimelow
We'd feel occupied.
It'd be like a whole thing.
libby emmons
I used to hang out with my friend in Connecticut at his family's lake house, and we'd all go hang out.
But He had this corgi and all of us, you know, goofy kids would be hanging out in the yard and the corgi would notice that we weren't all in the same place and would just start rounding us all up.
And we'd be like, oh my goodness, Ginger just rounded us all up.
hannah claire brimelow
My cousin had an Australian cattle dog that they were like, oh, we'll rescue it.
But it was from like a working dog line.
And, you know, there were a lot of us growing up and they would herd us onto couches.
unidentified
Would my little guy make a great president?
hannah claire brimelow
I don't know if the cameras can see it, but it's a tiny, tiny chihuahua who's very, very, very sweet.
I mean, what's the stamina on this dog, right?
libby emmons
But even last night, Joe Biden's staffers, I guess, tweeted out at 1130 p.m.
because, of course, Joe Biden was probably asleep, but tweeted out, It looks like Donald Trump just won Iowa.
He's the clear frontrunner on the other side at this point.
Here's the thing.
This election was always going to be you and me versus extreme MAGA Republicans.
It was true yesterday and it'll be true tomorrow.
hannah claire brimelow
But they're the party of the future.
libby emmons
They're the uniting party.
And you had Rachel Maddow last night bragging about how MSNBC was not going to show Trump's victory speech because truth is really important and then she starts talking about rising authoritarianism and there she is literally praising the network she works for for censoring the guy who's giving a speech thanking his opponents and talking about unity.
That's crazy!
hannah claire brimelow
It's crazy.
unidentified
Even Obama masked his, even his terrible policies, but he masked his speeches in positive.
Right.
He was always looking up in an arrow.
That's how he won, because... Even Clinton was, and this guy is just brutally negative.
Negative in... Against half of the country.
hannah claire brimelow
It's just... In fear-mongering.
He wants the people who do support him to be very, very scared of other people.
Specifically people who vote differently than them.
tim pool
We got a super chat from X Tin Man saying he's going to go to the Democrat ballot and write in Haley, write in Trump.
libby emmons
Yeah, that's a better plan.
tim pool
Like, what if every Republican in the Democrat... Well, because they're not having primaries, I guess.
The Democrats are just not doing it.
But what if every Republican went to the Democrat primary and voted Trump?
hannah claire brimelow
Well, that's the other thing is that the Democrats have really snubbed New Hampshire this year.
libby emmons
And Iowa.
hannah claire brimelow
And Iowa.
They honored Iowa, but they're saying South Carolina is the first primary.
libby emmons
That's what they really want.
hannah claire brimelow
And that's because Biden got wrecked in New Hampshire last time and he won South Carolina.
And so they pass it off as like, well, we need more diversity and we need to be reflective of the voters.
And so we're going to avoid New Hampshire.
But they know probably if he had to primary there, I mean, he's the incumbent.
So it's a weird year, but he would not do well.
New Hampshire doesn't like him.
tim pool
Let's jump to this story.
We have a tweet from George.
I don't know you, George, but you have this tweet breaking.
Trump crowd chants VP, VP, VP after Vivek gets done speaking.
Trump says he's going to be working with us for a long time.
Here's the video clip.
Let's play it for you right now.
unidentified
Thank you.
donald j trump
Thank you.
Wow, that's — how was that?
Pretty good, right?
That was pretty good.
And he's a fantastic guy.
And he's really — he's got something that's very special, because he started off with a Zippo, and he's got — he ended up very strong.
He did a great job.
I was actually surprised when he called, because he was doing well.
And it's an honor to have his endorsement.
He's gonna be working with us and he'll be working with us for a long time.
tim pool
He's gonna be working with us.
libby emmons
For a long time.
unidentified
Good.
tim pool
Because we were talking about this a little bit before the show.
Vivek needs to work in a Trump administration.
If he's going to be the next guy after Trump, and I think he can be, he needs government experience.
One of the pitfalls, one of the reasons why Vivek was not the guy this time around, Trump had that first term.
He walked to the minefield.
He hit some of these mines.
He knows where some of them are.
He can do a better job this time around.
Perfect.
No.
Good.
Yes.
Vivek?
Good speaker.
Good ideas.
Great ideas, in fact.
But he doesn't know where those landmines are in the same way Trump does.
So if Vivek gets a position in the Trump administration, Then, coming into 2027, he begins campaigning.
He will have the experience behind him.
And I gotta tell you, man, Trump is this unrefined ore, and Vivek is refined.
When Donald Trump explains something, it works for the average person, and he's this brash, crass guy who's gonna say it like it is.
Vivek can lay it out analytically, and just, he can sell it to you.
So I think this team up, I don't know to what extent, what do you guys think?
You think he's VP?
libby emmons
I think that would be great.
What do you think, Adam?
unidentified
I don't think he's VP.
He's just too big of a personality.
I think he's a cabinet secretary because cabinet secretary, your name will be constantly in the news.
You can go on TV all the time.
You can create policy.
You could be ready, prepared for 2028.
VP, I think he needs someone like, Trump needs someone like a Tim Scott, a more calmer.
Ben Carson?
Barb Carson, Tim Scott.
hannah claire brimelow
Sorry, keep going.
unidentified
The alpha that Trump is, and I feel like Vivek is an alpha but more refined, like you said, would just be too much together.
It's just you can't put two electric outlets, you can't put two positives together, it would just spark too much, right?
You can't do that.
libby emmons
Secretary of State, what do you think?
unidentified
Secretary of Energy, Secretary of Commerce, maybe Chief of Staff, but his personality might be too big for Chief of Staff.
hannah claire brimelow
He needs a front-facing position because he's so good on camera.
He's really charming.
He can really communicate a message.
unidentified
Think about him on TV every week.
Meet the Press or National, talking about economic policy.
tim pool
He runs circles around these people.
libby emmons
Someone like a Blinken.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, you want him to be front-facing for sure.
You know I take him seriously when he came on this show and said that he didn't want to be VP and I think Tim's right that having more experience in the government would be good and in some ways VPs aren't super known for what they contribute to an administration.
There's a rumor that it'll be Doug Burgum because based on what Trump said last night.
libby emmons
Burgum was back, was with him there.
tim pool
Yeah he endorsed him didn't he?
hannah claire brimelow
He endorsed him and last night when Trump was giving his remarks he said something like Oh, he's gonna, he's gonna be around, like he had this like smirk and stuff like that.
tim pool
Trump-Bergum 2024?
libby emmons
I don't know.
tim pool
And no one will see that coming.
libby emmons
I think that's sort of, I think he needs, uh, you know, he- But he needs a personality that's quieter than Biggs.
hannah claire brimelow
And Bergum's is quieter than Biggs.
libby emmons
I totally disagree.
He had Mr. Quiet Personality and Stupid Pence.
unidentified
Yeah.
libby emmons
And that didn't work out.
hannah claire brimelow
I think he would do it again, though.
libby emmons
I think he should go for someone nice and big.
tim pool
Tulsi Gabbard.
libby emmons
Tulsi, I like Tulsi.
I like Tucker.
I like anybody who can go out there and rev up a crowd almost as good as Trump does.
Because also, he's gonna need somebody on the campaign trail while he's being dragged around by, you know, stupid Merrick Garland and his minions.
Yeah, I would love to see Trump just put a candy bar on Merrick Garland's head.
hannah claire brimelow
So funny.
Again, that was one of the best moments.
libby emmons
It was terrific.
hannah claire brimelow
I think that there are a lot of potentially good picks.
I think Burgum would be weird because North Dakota is not, you know, necessarily a stronghold.
Bad pick.
I guess it's different.
But the way he was talking about him, there is a belief that Burgum is involved somehow.
So you could start piecing together who his candidates would be.
My question with Vivek and, you know, it could be great for him to gain experience on the federal level and then potentially run again in 2028.
I wish that he would take some of the really innovative things that he talked about, like civic engagement and different things during his campaign, and apply it on a small scale in Ohio.
It's just that the timing doesn't line up where he could take a position in Ohio and then run again in 2028, from what I know.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
Burgum does not seem like VP.
You may as well put just Trump blank.
unidentified
I don't mean to be these cherry picking like Democrats, but I don't think we need a white male from North Dakota to help with the ticket.
libby emmons
I like the old way where you just get the second guy.
You know what I mean?
tim pool
Oh, so Biden?
libby emmons
No, DeSantis.
tim pool
Yeah, but the old way was whoever got second place in the general would be the vice president.
libby emmons
That actually was good.
tim pool
The argument there was that the country would have representation for those who lost the election, and it makes sense.
Now it's not.
So half the country feels disenfranchised.
unidentified
You know who's very articulate and doing a great job out of New York?
Elise Stefanik, the congresswoman.
libby emmons
Elise Stefanik has done a good job.
unidentified
Excellent speaker.
She went to Harvard.
She's a real fighter.
libby emmons
That's why she's so pissed at Harvard.
tim pool
I don't see VP there, though.
Tulsi Gabbard is a long shot, but you kind of make sense when people say it.
You're like, okay, I can kind of understand why she'd be VP.
People are saying Kristi Noem.
Yeah, she kind of feels like VP.
hannah claire brimelow
And she's been a Trump ally for a really long time.
With Stefanik, I wouldn't want to lose her from Congress.
I think she's doing really good things and it's nice to see that representation in New York.
I mean, part of the problem is that if you lift anyone out of the position they're currently in, that becomes a vacuum and you don't know what's going to fill it.
tim pool
I got it.
Trump Trump 2024.
hannah claire brimelow
Which one?
Baron?
libby emmons
Don?
tim pool
Yes!
unidentified
Junior?
tim pool
Don Junior!
unidentified
Eric?
libby emmons
Don Jr.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, but then the Democrats would freak out and be like, he's just putting his own kids in!
This is crazy!
libby emmons
He's a dictatorship!
Just like George Bush!
It's a monarchy!
tim pool
Don Jr.
is great.
But I can understand why, if he's a family member, they wouldn't do it.
But I think Don Jr.
would be a great choice, too.
hannah claire brimelow
Do you think he'd run for office on his own, though?
I mean, would he run for state or, you know, Senate or something like that?
tim pool
I don't know if Don Jr.
is going to go that route.
I don't know.
I don't see it.
I think he could be a VP, but I think the play is to get someone outside of the Trump space.
That's why Kristi Noem makes sense.
Tulsi Gabbard could make sense, but it definitely seems like a 0.1% likelihood, you know.
I like Tulsi Gabbard as VP because, you know, military experience, fairly moderate, could attract former Democrats and disaffected liberals.
libby emmons
She would also do some work, right?
I mean, Kamala Harris doesn't do anything at all.
Chelsea Gabbard would be like, I have a position, I'm gonna do some stuff.
tim pool
Kamala Harris entertains us every day with her Veep-style speeches.
libby emmons
She's unburdened by what might have been.
tim pool
Man, it is amazing when she says stuff like, How does she keep saying that?
unidentified
The community is a good thing because it's the community!
tim pool
And you're like, what?
hannah claire brimelow
Well, and the Biden administration, initially, they had her out there, they moved her to the background, and now that we're getting closer to 2024, they're kind of being like, it's the Biden-Harris administration.
libby emmons
They really are trying to sell that, and it's just not working.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, but for the middle two years, they were like, stand in the back and don't say anything, because she was just not good, right?
libby emmons
Well, they were trying to get her to do stuff, and she wouldn't do it.
True, she was our border czar.
Remember the whole border czar?
And then her office was like, no, no, she's not the border czar, she's working on the root causes of migration in the Northern Triangle countries, and she's not even doing that.
And then she was like, actually, it's LGBTQIA plus violence, That is the problem.
So we need to prioritize them for asylum, which then they had an EO about that.
tim pool
Have you guys seen that meme where it's LGBTQ plus and it's let's get Biden to quit plus Kamala.
hannah claire brimelow
That's very funny.
tim pool
Very funny people.
The Internet is undefeated.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, I wish we could pick VP based on like what issue they are going to rabidly champion during the administration, because then I would love to see Where's RFK Jr.?
really serious immigration restrictionists go into office.
But I just don't think that's going to happen so much of the VP selection is saying who can we
court in terms of electoral college votes. Where's RFK Jr.? Is he still around? He was in North
Carolina over the weekend.
Allad was there covering him and he has an event in West Virginia coming up. I think he's doing
pretty well for an independent, but you know, he's not, it's sort of hard because he's not
not in the news cycle because there's no primary for the independent.
He's like, you're just going to make it or he's not.
tim pool
Yeah, but he's also, I don't think he's taking the, like Vivek went from zero, like in a year, look at this, he went to fourth place in the primary.
He went to 8% in the Iowa caucus.
I mean, this is amazing.
And he did it.
And even got the Trump camp worried because he was getting so much support, but he went around the press circuit.
He went to podcasters, media personalities, and he made himself available to them.
RFK is not doing that so much.
He has an opportunity to get attention, he won't take it.
unidentified
And that 8%, he took it right from Trump.
Those are all Trump voters.
tim pool
Well, actually, technically yes.
unidentified
Or maybe he grew the pie with young people.
tim pool
He did.
That's what it is.
So among first-time voters, Vivek was in first place.
And Ron DeSantis actually, according to one poll, got more Gen Z than any other candidate.
But Vivek got a good amount of Trump supporters, but a lot of first-time voters.
So I think that's the opportunity here for Trump.
Vivek targeting new voters?
Brilliant.
Because now he goes to the Trump camp and says, I didn't think I was going to be able to pull it off.
I didn't pull it off.
You got my endorsement.
I can bring in new voters for you and get those numbers up.
I'm going to pull in voters from areas you've never seen before.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, that'd be cool.
And I think that's a good sign for, you know, conservative values or maybe libertarian values generally, because they were really drawn to to Ramswamy's campaign.
And ultimately, that's the future, right?
So it's easy to focus on what happens this November.
But what we want long term is for new voters to be interested in voting for candidates who represent long term investment in a future that's going to be steady and provide a prosperous life for a lot of people.
libby emmons
Well, part of the problem with that is that we have no shared vision of either America's future or of America's past.
We have no real social cohesion or vision for what the American character is or understanding of where we came from.
It's just a constant fracturing.
hannah claire brimelow
But when do you think the fracture started?
Do you have an estimate?
libby emmons
This is something that is, you know, that has recently been coming up.
I was actually talking to Inez Stepman today about it on her podcast, High Noon, something I've been talking to Jack Posobiec about.
He's been talking about leftist revolutions.
It was actually really fascinating.
He had this series on Human Events Daily during the period between Christmas and New Year's, and it was like four, I think it was four episodes about cultural revolutions that were like leftist revolutions, and it was I forget what they all were, but there were a bunch of them and they were really fascinating.
But the one that I found most fascinating was the one about the 1960s in America, the Cultural Revolution in America, which I had never conceived of as a revolution.
I'd never conceived of it as a leftist revolution.
You know, to a certain extent, I just thought of it as, you know, my stupid parents were – they're not stupid.
I love you guys, Mom and Dad.
hannah claire brimelow
Your silly parents.
libby emmons
My parents were sort of part of the whole hippie thing.
They were boomers.
They came of age during that period.
I thought, you know, it seemed like a very cultural moment, and it was something where, you know, fashion would take from it.
As I was growing up, it was always like, now we're in the 60s moment again, now we're in it again, now we're in it again.
But I never thought of it as a revolution.
And I've been thinking about that a lot.
And then, you know, the civil rights movement and that whole era, which I always had a very I thought I had a very clear view of it, and I've been reconsidering it.
But I think that A lot of it started then, when you had this huge generation of young people saying to their parents, everything you taught us was wrong.
Everything you thought about the country is wrong.
Everything you think about us and our future is wrong.
We're going to destroy everything you built.
We're going to dance around in that rubble and we're going to build on top of rubble.
And I think that's what happened.
So then when you hit the 90s, which in my view, like I was in my 20s, I guess, in the 90s, you hit the 90s when you had a very, what seemed to me, a colorblind society.
You had a lot of great culture.
It was like, I was hanging out with a bunch of art kids downtown New York City and there was just money everywhere.
It's like you'd go out and somebody would pick up the tab.
Somebody would.
Somebody would fund the giant art show.
There was money left over.
Who even knows?
Who even knows what was going on?
But, you know, it seemed like this pinnacle of civilization, but it was really apparently just built on top of rubble.
You know, the rubble of our grandparents, of our religion, of our culture, of our shared past, of our appreciation for our history.
unidentified
I grew up in a small town on Long Island, Porchef Station, and my neighbors were African-American black, but never had discussions about race, never had discussions about any of this.
And we were just my neighbor, and we liked each other and got along well.
And all along my life, I had black friends, never thought of it.
I think somewhere along the line, when Obama got elected, at the very beginning of his term, there was this, you know, incident at Harvard University with this black professor.
right off the bat. And the police called because he was being obnoxious, he was screaming.
libby emmons
Something about a beer.
unidentified
And right off the bat, the President of the United States took the side of the obnoxious professor
libby emmons
That's right.
unidentified
and went against the white police officers. And it became a race issue.
But it had nothing to do with race.
And the media jumped on this and said they need a lesson, that police need to go to, you know, sensitivity training.
And I think somewhere that incident, I feel like, stood out really in this lesson where Obama wanted to turn back the clock on race relations.
And I don't like that's kind of like that was the start of it.
I think it was a beer summit.
donald j trump
For what?
unidentified
Because the guy was being obnoxious and he had to use the white police officers.
tim pool
I think Obama had a negative impact on race relations, but all of this started with social media.
The evidence is every single country experienced the exact same thing at the exact same time, and the only connected factor would be the advent of social media emerging in all these countries.
What happens is, for Facebook at the time, and Twitter wasn't really that prominent, but you know, Barack Obama used Facebook to get elected.
It helped him get out the youth vote.
What happens is, As the platform gets bigger, they need to find a way to keep people interested in the platform when their feed was inundated with too much content.
When these platforms first started, you'd see an update every few seconds and you didn't care.
Cell phones come out.
Now Facebook is ubiquitous.
Everyone's on Facebook 24-7.
And you're following more than 300 people, your feed becomes incomprehensible and moves too quick.
So they create the algorithmic feed where it only shows you some content some of the time.
What happens?
The stuff that gets the most clicks was related to racism.
It actually was related to a couple issues.
White nationalism, not entirely, but strong nationalist Christian and white nationalist content was prominent, as well as social justice content.
However, these big tech companies, you know, when you get these free speech individuals in the early days, they call themselves like the free speech wing of the free speech party on Twitter, they look at it very economically.
They sit down at a board meeting and someone says, okay, a large group of people are posting about white nationalism and a large group of people are posting about black nationalism.
And they go, okay well look, advertisers will not buy on your platform if there's white nationalists here.
Ban them all.
Advertisers don't care about black nationalism.
It's fine.
What ends up happening is people have an option to click on the most, I guess, rage-baity content they can, and for these biased reasons, the algorithm will always favor anger and justice over every other emotion.
And justice can take the shape of many things, but when you combine it, you end up with police brutality, things like you mentioned, like this professor.
But if the tech companies are like, If a white guy is murdered in the streets, and people start defending him and saying, you know, white people under attack, oh, we got white supremacists, delete that stuff, advertisers will flee.
But if it's, you know, black people, Mexicans, Asians, or whatever, that's acceptable.
A bunch of companies started mass producing this, social media companies started mass producing this, and then we see in every single country a massive spike.
in support for these issues. When it started, it was police brutality, which turned into feminist
issues, intersectional feminist issues, and now we're into full-scale diversity, inclusivity,
unidentified
equity, etc. Yeah, that's interesting.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, I think it's hard to say.
I think social media was sort of the gasoline to a lot of underlying cultural tensions that have been building for a long time.
tim pool
Well, it's the machine.
hannah claire brimelow
Right.
And I think that's the hard thing to dial the clock back on, right?
Like, you might be able to say to people, oh, here's what happened during this event with Obama.
And they might be able to say, oh, OK.
But they won't forget the fact that they felt this way for a long time.
And they'll be constantly driven by algorithms that want them to feel divided, because that ultimately sells more than anything else.
tim pool
I think.
unidentified
Because they probably figured that happiness, we can't keep people on our platform too long if it's just happy.
So let's constantly create conflict and anger.
tim pool
Sort of.
They don't think about that.
They think about what will get someone to spend more time on the platform.
They need posts to look at that they engage with.
What do they engage with?
Well, on Facebook, actually, the top engaged with kind of post is, I'm married and had kids.
So, they may have fixed this, but the meme was, if you ever had an important announcement for your friends, and it's like you got a new job or you're moving, start the post off with, I have just gotten married and I'm having kids.
Okay, now that I've said that, none of that's true.
I'm actually moving.
Hope to see you guys at the party this weekend, because it'll put that at the top of their feeds.
But, I don't think, for a lot of these people, it was intentional.
I think, as I describe it, people like Jack Dorsey, he basically built a big toilet for everyone to sit on, and then he hooked up the pipes from that toilet into his own mouth.
So, they built this machine.
The machine favors content that gets clicked the most.
Here's an example.
YouTube wanted to compete with Netflix.
YouTube used to get, if, you know, we go back in the days of like Auto-Tune the News, Shmoyoho, Songify, they're getting millions of hits per video.
All of a sudden, the views start dropping.
I actually talked with Google about it, and they said, Netflix is our biggest competitor.
And I said, Netflix?
I was like, oh, you're missing the big picture here.
If you think it's Netflix, their view was, what are people watching online?
It used to be YouTube, now it's Netflix.
Netflix introduced streaming, everybody signed up, they're getting premium content.
So YouTube said, we need to get our creators to start making content that competes with Game of Thrones.
So here's the idea.
If your video's longer than 10 minutes, And people watch it for a long time.
That's what we want.
High retention rates, longer videos.
Then, people will start producing shows like Game of Thrones.
What did they get instead?
TeamCast IRL.
How do you produce engaging, long-form content?
Video podcasts, vodcasts.
The problem with that is, you've got a massive spattering of argumentative and serious political issues, which generate a wave of nationalist, white nationalist, racist, all sorts of content.
And I'm not saying only.
I'm saying it included everything.
YouTube then panics, going, oh no, that's not what we meant.
So these companies don't actually care about what the content is so long as it's making money for them and if advertisers will buy on the platform.
So they're not thinking like, I want people angry.
They're saying, tell the algorithm to favor high retention rates and long videos.
What happens after this?
Parents would give iPads to their babies.
This was part of the Elsagate scandal several years ago.
It's like six, seven years ago now.
They would give an iPad to their baby and leave the room.
They would press play on finger family.
At the time, it was the most popular nursery rhyme.
Have you guys ever heard this one?
libby emmons
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Finger family, where are you?
Whatever.
And it goes index finger, middle finger.
When the song ends, YouTube's autoplay feature will load the next video automatically.
So the parent puts the iPad in front of the baby, the song ends, another video plays.
Eventually, it starts, the algorithm doesn't actually know what finger family is.
There were people in India, knowing this was the trend, started exploiting the algorithm by producing extremely low quality and freaky videos.
Like the example I often give is the Incredible Hulk doing Tai Chi with Adolf Hitler.
libby emmons
Oh my goodness.
tim pool
But it's Hitler's head on a woman's body in a bikini.
And this is not an exaggeration.
What would happen is, once the parents would play the video and the video would end, it would just autoplay the next video for Finger Family, and it just so happened to be The Incredible Hulk and Adolf Hitler, but Hitler had boobs, and it was weird, freaky stuff.
They didn't intentionally make that happen.
It happened because all they did was tell the algorithm to let it go.
What I've argued, and I believe this is the most likely scenario, As a baby, you don't know what you're watching.
So if you're watching Finger Family, and the next thing that pops up is Hitler, you're just a baby staring at a screen going, eh.
But an adult can see that and go, whoa!
Something is wrong here.
However...
Adults aren't immune to this either.
When you're watching a video about a criminal case involving a corrupt cop, and you go, man, the next video that plays is, say, George Floyd or Ahmaud Arbery, you go, wow.
You don't realize you're actually... I'm gonna say this.
I will equate the Ahmaud Arbery case to Adolf Hitler with a woman's body doing Tai Chi with the Incredible Hulk.
As an adult, it falls into your preconceived notions, and it seems to make sense.
But the story is totally fabricated and false.
Everything people know from the mainstream press, the Ahmaud Arbery case, who did we have on the show recently?
They were like, oh, that was the guy who was jogging, right?
And he wasn't jogging.
That was never even a legal talking point.
In the courts, they never argued that Ahmaud Arbery was just jogging.
They actually conceded he was a burglary suspect who had been witnessed and was wanted by the police for questioning.
But in the mainstream media, They were saying he was just jogging.
These are people who live in the world where they can't recognize the algorithm is feeding them refuse down their throats.
And that's why I say, the people running these companies didn't one day decide, let's produce a bunch of rageful content to make them go insane!
No, Jack Dorsey was like, we're the free speech wing of the free speech party.
Then when the algorithms they created were propping up the most psychotic, nonsensical garbage, he took that hose and shoved it straight down his throat, started absorbing it, believing it, and shedded his own brain.
The people then running these companies adopted these views and integrated them back into their systems, exacerbating the problem.
Here we are.
hannah claire brimelow
That's so true.
Do you feel like this is something that people who aren't involved in alternative media aren't aware of?
Like if you were a longtime Fox sort of corporate person, would you be as well versed in Elsagate and all of this stuff?
Do you think you have an advantage because of the medium you're in?
tim pool
You mean like the people who are paying, watching cable live in cable TV world?
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
tim pool
I mean, so this is the reality of 20 or 30 years ago.
If someone went to CNN and said, I have a huge story and they were like, we don't want to cover that.
That's it.
Never happens.
No one ever hears about it.
Have a nice day.
With the internet, some random guy makes a video and he's like, I think Epstein's doing something.
You end up with Alex Jones.
Massive personality generating millions outside of the controls of the deep state.
I mean, look, we know about Mockingbird.
We know about how intelligence agents would go to the press and say, here's an article we wrote for you.
Sign your name on it.
Not every journalist and deep state narrative story is like that.
Most of them aren't.
We know they do that.
The problem now is the only way to control the narrative is through extreme censorship.
And the problem there is a decentralized press mechanism, like what we have now with shows like this, can see through it, call it out, causes problems, and they lose.
Hence, Donald Trump is the frontrunner.
hannah claire brimelow
Where do we go?
tim pool
I don't know.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, that's the question.
I mean, that's my big question for 2024 really has been who is going to come next after this?
Who's going to be sort of the successor to the Trump movement?
Because he is such a personality.
libby emmons
That's the real shame with DeSantis.
It should have been DeSantis.
tim pool
No, no, I think we're lucky with DeSantis.
libby emmons
You think that we lucked out?
tim pool
Oh, we got so lucky.
libby emmons
In that he failed?
tim pool
Yeah, absolutely.
libby emmons
I mean, this guy is... He could have been the heir apparent, though.
tim pool
No, he couldn't have.
And this is the point.
It's a good thing he ran so that we all got to see just how impotent he was politically.
I mean, the dude can't run a campaign, can't control the staff.
He lacks charisma.
libby emmons
He definitely can't hire.
tim pool
He can't hire.
He can't sell.
He can't even pitch.
And so, if this guy did not run, and everyone kept praising him, it was like, this guy's so great!
And then 2028 comes around, and he goes, well, I'm here to take over for Donald Trump!
Here are my high heels, and here are the crackpots that I've hired!
We'd be like, oh crap.
libby emmons
But he might have learned in the intervening years.
He might have gotten better.
No way.
unidentified
You don't think?
tim pool
No, look, look.
People can improve!
You don't think people can improve?
No, stop.
We were at The office building that we were in for the Iowa caucus was the same building as Vivek's campaign office for Des Moines.
His headquarters was at a different location for caucus night.
I think the office we were in was his principal office.
We were not in his office, there's a distinction, but we were in the same building and we had to negotiate with the building's owner, so it's not like Vivek got us anything, but we were in the same space with him.
He did help us find it, no doubt.
But in one of the rooms, they have on this white board, things successful people do, and I just laughed when I saw it.
It's like, they ask for help.
You know, they're mission-driven, and I'm like, these are things you can't give people, okay?
I've been in so many corporate meetings, so many corporate offices, where it's like, here's how to be successful.
And they try to teach someone who doesn't have the X factor how to have the X factor, and they don't.
So when I used to do fundraising for nonprofits, what they decided was just give everyone the lowest common denominator training as to how you pitch someone to donate to your cause.
And so they tell everybody, keep your feet spread open with each foot lining up with your shoulders.
Keep your arms open.
Never cover your chest.
Never hold a binder over your chest.
Those are all off-putting.
Bounce on the balls of your feet and rock back and forth.
This is what they tell everyone to do.
And here's what you have to say and how you have to say it.
And I'm like, if someone doesn't have the ability to sell, this will not help them.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
And if someone does, this will hurt them.
So I look at Ron DeSantis.
libby emmons
Totally useless, in other words.
tim pool
Totally useless.
What you'd find is they would tell you, probably for legal reasons, you have to say this verbatim.
Yeah, right.
Everybody who went out to fundraise for every non-profit I ever worked with would say whatever they felt like saying and they would always sign people up and the people who would always try to do the pitch would get super angry and be like, why can't I do this?
I've seen people like Rhonda Sanders before, okay?
Me and my buddy got hired.
So I'll try to simplify the story.
Me and my buddy worked for a non-profit.
They hired a woman.
We were both managers.
She ends up working underneath me.
She's brilliant.
As soon as she gets trained by me, one of the top fundraisers in the nation, she goes to another company and says, I want to be a director, a position above me.
I was trained by one of the nation's best from this company.
And they were like, wow!
Job's yours!
Impressive resume, speaks multiple languages, has training from one of the top fundraisers in the country.
And then she immediately hits me up and says, you want to work for me?
And I was like, wow, I am impressed.
And so me and my buddy end up saying, okay, fine, screw it, we'll go work for your office.
One of her friends, me, it's three of us, me, my friend, and this guy.
This guy that she hires is a friend of hers.
He doesn't have it.
He is the Ron DeSantis of fundraising.
We are both Trump and Vivek Ramaswamy of fundraising.
And so me and him are standing there on the street down in Chicago.
Both of us are sitting there with like glazed over looks on our faces, half paying attention, expending no energy.
This guy is doing everything he's told.
Standing upright, balls of his feet, waving to people, asking them, asking them, asking them.
He's getting burned out.
Me and the other guy are sitting there, and then we see the person, we go, that guy right there.
You come over here.
Sell him instantly.
This guy freaks out, gets really angry, and he was like, I don't understand.
I'm doing everything I'm told to do, and no one will talk to me, and then I'm watching these guys do nothing, and then just snap their fingers, and someone comes and signs up, and I was like, What we have is the ability to recognize someone who's interested, open, willing to talk.
You're going about it through the motions.
That's how I see Ron DeSantis.
He does not have the abilities.
You can beg him to please understand what he's doing wrong, and we tried.
And all that happens is he doubles down.
libby emmons
We just tried.
tim pool
Yeah, absolutely.
He's a crackpot campaign staff.
What did they say?
The media calling it for Trump was actually pro-Biden and pro-Trump.
And the media's biased for Trump.
And it's like, you've lost your minds.
We've been warning the whole time since DeSantis announced that his campaign is garbage, he has no charisma, he's failing.
And when his first starts, and we're polite about it, like guys, what did we say first here on the show?
I was like, you gotta get him speech training and charisma training.
And they said, how dare you?
And they started attacking all of us, insulting all of us, and now Ron DeSantis loses.
libby emmons
And then they got their minions to attack everybody.
unidentified
Tim, you have a good gift, naturally, as a salesman.
But I tell people, if you're selling something, let's say you're selling real estate, you walk in a room, you don't want someone just to bombard you with your card, just because you don't want someone who's needy and pushy.
Do the opposite.
Get someone to like you first.
Be warm.
And Ron has never been able to do the opposite.
He was just so stiff.
He came across that way, and I would have told him, Ron, if you don't have it, just do the opposite.
Try to be warm, you know?
tim pool
You are correct, but I don't think that's the principal issue.
I think the principal issue is that he's a loser.
And I know that he won his congressional races.
We like the policies he's got.
He won in Florida massively.
I don't give him credit for all of it.
I give him credit for some of it, but what I mean by loser is When you're selling something, it doesn't matter if you know what it is.
It matters that you sound like you do.
Cause I don't know.
Okay?
If I call a plumber and I'm like, guy, my toilet's busted.
And he goes, well, I mean, I could probably fix it.
I'd have to look at it.
I'm not, you know, I think I could do it.
I'll be like, okay, well, you know, let me give you a call back.
Then I call Trump plumbing and he goes, listen, we're the best plumbers.
unidentified
We're going to come in and fix it.
Five minutes.
Easy, cheap.
No one's better than us.
Everyone agrees.
tim pool
I'm going to be like, I want that guy.
libby emmons
I mean, at least just sound confident and I think you might show up.
tim pool
And, you know, Gary Johnson exemplifies this when he said, and what is Aleppo?
Everyone knows the Aleppo moment.
That is loser talk.
And I'm kind of trying to beat a dick, but not really.
I've often said if Donald Trump was confronted with a subject matter he didn't know about, So, imagine Trump's being interviewed and someone says, yes, but as president, how will you handle Lucindando?
unidentified
Trump would go, look, you know, people have been talking about Lucindando, but the economy is what matters to the American people, so we're going to do that.
tim pool
It's a gibberish what I made up.
But Trump would deflect by saying, I'm not going to sit here and talk about an issue like that when the American people are concerned about their jobs.
Gary Johnson goes, what's that?
And everyone's like, he doesn't know what Aleppo is?
I mean, people are dying here.
This country is being blown to smithereens.
And so when you look at Ron DeSantis, listen, if I'm going to sell you anything, Who are you going to buy from?
The guy who says, well, I'm here to offer you a drink of this delicious spindrift lemon drink?
You'd be like, okay.
Or the guy who walks in and says, this is the most delicious drink I've ever had.
But I'll tell you what!
I'll give you a little bit.
You gotta pay.
You're like, ooh, what's this all about?
Confidence!
Charisma!
Ron does not have it.
You can't give him it.
We tried.
All he did was get a bunch... Like, you know what I feel like with the DeSantis people?
I feel like it's high school.
Really like high school.
Donald Trump is like... He's not necessarily a football player.
He's like kind of the bigger guy who hangs out with a bunch of... He's tall.
He's chunky.
But he's the jokester.
He's funny.
People kind of like him.
unidentified
And he's the guy that everybody likes, kind of.
The guy in the middle who got along with the rockers and the sports people.
Yeah!
And everybody liked him.
tim pool
Right, and he's kind of a dick sometimes, but he'll rib on you and say, I'm just kidding, and then he'll give you a shove.
And Ron DeSantis is the nerdy kid in the glasses with his dorky friends being like, you know, why don't people listen to us?
We're smarter than they are.
People are so stupid.
I bet if we tell them they're stupid, they'll listen to us.
Yeah, good luck with that DeSantis, congratulations.
libby emmons
And I feel like Vivek is the guy who is just like, what? No, I'm not paying any attention to any of these
people.
No, just- I'm just gonna go do my own thing.
No, the- That's what he seems like to me.
tim pool
Vivek is like, he's hanging out with the cool kids, and he's the shorter, fast-talking guy.
You know, so when I used to do non-profit fundraising, there were two kinds of guys that made a bunch of money.
Tall guys, and smooth-talking guys.
Trump's tall guy, Vivek's smooth-talking guy.
That's what it is.
Ron is the nerdy guy who got fired in three days.
That's just the reality of it.
Yeah.
Welcome to politics.
hannah claire brimelow
I feel like Vivek is fun because... Then who's the Nikki?
Who is Nikki?
unidentified
Nikki is like that girl on student council who's really annoying.
hannah claire brimelow
And she's always talking about something that no one wants to do.
tim pool
And she's always trying to drop bombs on foreign countries.
hannah claire brimelow
And your teachers really like her, but it's hard to explain to them that no one else does.
And they're like, but why don't you just listen to Nikki?
libby emmons
And you're like, because Nikki... And she's trying to get everyone to blow up the balloons for prom.
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
It's a prom that she organized where no one wants it at a date that can be inconvenient for everyone else.
Like, she's ultimately self-centered, but she's passing it off as like, but I'm doing it for you guys!
That's Nikki Haley to me.
libby emmons
That's interesting.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Let's talk about airplanes.
hannah claire brimelow
Not to rag on her unprofessionally.
tim pool
So we're just getting off the holidays.
We have this story from the Seattle Times.
Passengers sue Alaska Airlines Boeing after 737 MAX 9 fuselage blowout.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Well, that's the big news, I guess, because it really does matter to you if your plane is going to, you know, have a blowout.
One of our guests who was supposed to fly here on United had their flight canceled because we got an email
saying your trip has been canceled because the Boeing 737 Max 9 has to be,
they're all being inspected.
So this plane is no longer available and the flight will no longer be happening.
hannah claire brimelow
Damn.
Have you heard about, they just identified the phone case on the iPhone
that fell out of that flight.
It like hit the ground at 75.
libby emmons
Oh, what was the phone case?
hannah claire brimelow
I should have come prepared for this comment.
Apparently this was like the big thing with all of these like, you know, case files or whatever.
They were like, somebody needs to tell us stat what it is.
unidentified
Yeah, but... It fell from like the sky at 75 miles an hour!
tim pool
And the phone works!
If I take my phone with no case and I whip it at the ground as hard as I can and it hits the grass, it's gonna be fine.
I don't know, man.
The phone they found landed in a bush.
And a guy was out for a run and he looks and he's like, there it is.
Yeah, your phone hits the tree, bounces back and forth.
It's not going to break.
These things are amazing.
libby emmons
From the sky, Tim!
hannah claire brimelow
The sky!
Yeah, terminal velocity.
libby emmons
I thought it was crazy that it was open.
There was like no passcode or anything.
tim pool
Well, it's because the person was apparently reading their email about their baggage, which is the crazy thing.
So when the dude found it and opened it, it opened up to an email saying, you know, your baggage fee or whatever.
hannah claire brimelow
Maybe this sounds too perfect.
No, I'm starting to get skeptical.
Could you imagine if someone sitting in that chair could identify what flight it was on?
libby emmons
So you're sitting in the chair and your phone gets sucked out.
tim pool
Or imagine you're sitting next to the door with your seatbelt off and you get sucked out.
hannah claire brimelow
The two people that were supposed to sit there, like, last minute decided not to go on this trip.
And so the seats were empty.
Like, hmm, now it seems a little sketchy.
libby emmons
Well, I've changed my mind.
tim pool
They actually explained that.
What had happened was the two people who were supposed to sit there were waiting in the lounge before the flight and it was a guy and a woman and the guy fell asleep and then he woke up in a cold sweat screaming the plane was gonna crash and so he started yelling and they pulled him off the plane.
He's like, I gotta get out of here!
I gotta get off this plane!
They pulled him out and then that happened and now they're marked by death and even though they escaped the plane.
hannah claire brimelow
That sounds plausible.
tim pool
This is the plot of Final Destination.
Serge over here gets it.
hannah claire brimelow
No, no, I don't get it and I believe you 100%.
tim pool
Okay, well there's like 12 Final Destination movies.
unidentified
12 of them?!
tim pool
Probably.
They're all the same.
libby emmons
March for Death.
tim pool
And they're all basically a guy and a woman go on an airplane, the plane crashes and then
he wakes up and goes, what did I just witness?
I had a vision.
Freaks out, they throw him off the plane, the plane crashes and then they go, you cheated
unidentified
death and now death is coming for you.
tim pool
And then, like, instead of just having them, I don't know, like, slip and hit their head in their bathroom, death decides to have some circuitous Rube Goldberg device, you know, spin around twelve times.
hannah claire brimelow
Death gets bored.
Death needs something to do.
tim pool
I guess.
I'd like to do my version of, like, I want to make short films, and mine would be Final Destination, but, like, if Death was competent.
And it would just be, like, the guy goes home, walks up his stairs, slips on ice, bashes his face on the ground, and that's it.
libby emmons
Did you ever see The Seventh Seal?
You know, that Bergman film?
unidentified
Uh-uh.
libby emmons
So, uh, Death comes for this guy, and the guy's like, okay, well, I'll play a chess for it.
tim pool
Oh yeah, that old movie.
libby emmons
Yeah, it's an old movie.
It's like, yeah, 70s or something.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I like that one better than Final Destination.
How many of those did they make, though?
hannah claire brimelow
Just one?
libby emmons
It was really just the one.
hannah claire brimelow
So Final Destination is a bad concept in that they made it 12 times?
libby emmons
Seems unnecessary to me.
I don't think it's a bad concept.
I just think The 7th Seal probably was really good.
I like that movie.
unidentified
I've been flying a lot lately, and I noticed the service on these planes have become really bad.
libby emmons
Oh, it's unbearable.
unidentified
I don't know if it's the start of Pete Buttigieg's recruitment, of his diversity and equity inclusion recruitment, but it's been really, really bad.
tim pool
No, I think it's cultural breakdown.
serge du preez
It's everywhere.
It's in restaurants and everything, too.
tim pool
Yeah, everything.
libby emmons
It's not just planes, honestly.
serge du preez
Yeah, it is everywhere.
It's everywhere.
Services fall to the floor.
tim pool
It's crazy, too, plus tipping culture.
Oh, that's out of control.
Right, I go to Starbucks and then there's like a tip thing that pops up and it's like, you know, $1, $3, $5 tip and I'm like, bro, I ordered a $2 coffee.
hannah claire brimelow
I ordered something online from a store, like a small business, and they asked me to tip and I thought, no, I don't think you get stars.
tim pool
I was at Starbucks when we were in Des Moines and the tip jar said, on a scale of $1 to $10, how attractive are you?
And I was like, brilliant.
But kind of crazy that we're getting to the point where it's like, can I get a $10 tip, sir?
unidentified
So I went to this place, Anytime Fitness, to work out in the morning as I woke up.
And there was no workers there.
It's just a fob.
They trust people that go in with a fob.
So I'm like, this is great.
I'm going to pay for a day pass.
So I worked out there.
Great little fitness place.
Then I went to the pizza place next door.
And I just ordered a salad, and a tip popped up.
I'm like, even at a little pizza place, they got the tip popping up?
And we've become almost like a guilty culture now.
You feel almost like they're pushing you to feel guilty that you have to give a dollar or two.
tim pool
Right, or like the tip of the self-checkout.
Nobody wants to do their jobs.
Nobody wants to do the jobs they're doing.
I don't know what it is they want, but I will say that the millennial generation and large portions of the younger generations want to do literally nothing.
Somebody's got to do the work and make the food.
And what's happening is, you know, maybe it's strong men make hard times.
With the previous generation, we're like, here's my job, this is the job that I do, it's the job I have.
Now it's like, ugh, I have to go to work today.
I'm gonna half-ass it.
unidentified
And it used to be a common thing when the cashier or the waiter was nice.
Now it's like a rarity.
Wow, that person was nice.
It's like, whoa.
libby emmons
Well, there's all these things too.
Like I've been seeing different things online about job interviews.
And it'll be the person being like, so this person came in for a job interview.
They wanted to work only four days a week.
They wanted to know about the work-life balance.
It's a starting position.
They wanted 150 to start.
And it's all of this sort of crazy stuff.
Like what happened to the thing where you take a job, you wanna do well, you wanna do well for your personal life,
you wanna do well professionally.
And so you work your ass off, you work overtime.
You know, you come in early, you stay late.
I've done that with jobs I hated, you know?
I do that with a job I love, but like, I've done that with jobs that I just don't like.
And I think to myself, I am grateful to have a job.
I'm grateful I have health insurance.
You know, I'm gonna work hard not to get fired like somebody else just got fired.
It's not gonna be me.
hannah claire brimelow
Do you think part of it is that there's no vision for the future with the young generation?
I think, I think the younger generation is so weirdly hopeless and dark.
They're sort of like, There is no motivation to do anything, right?
They don't aspire to anything greater because... Nihilism.
Yeah, nihilism.
It's the same thing when they talk about climate change and they're like, well, I don't want to have kids because I don't want to burden the climate with my children and my children with the climate or whatever.
libby emmons
Yeah, having more kids makes bad weather.
hannah claire brimelow
They- it doesn't- whatever.
They feel like they work in these endless jobs that sort of go nowhere.
They feel like they don't create.
Everything is faceless.
Like, they are sort of numb to everything around them and so there's actually no momentum behind their choices.
Like, when you talk about, I'm going to work this job really hard because maybe this isn't where I'm going to be forever, but it's the job I have right now and it could get me somewhere else.
Like, you are a forward-thinking person.
Plus, there's this whole concept.
libby emmons
Everybody wants to be the main character.
Yeah.
But, like, be the main character.
The main character doesn't always have $150,000 a year and four days a week.
And you work life balance.
Sometimes the main character just works their ass off.
tim pool
No.
The main character in Shaun of the Dead was lazy, half-assed, had terrible ideas, got his friends killed, and he's still the main character.
hannah claire brimelow
Or, like, on Reels or TikToks, they have these things that girls talk about, like, rom-com jobs, where they, like, are... What's a rom-com job?
It's, like, jobs that I will leave for... No, I'm just kidding.
But they, like, work at bookstores, and they, like, know about books, and it's pretty, and they have, like, tiny studio apartments, and there's some... They kind of romanticize it.
libby emmons
I used to have a job like that.
unidentified
Right.
hannah claire brimelow
Or they, like, are cafe girls.
They work in waitresses, and then, like, eventually they meet a handsome man and get married.
Like, there are jobs that people kind of can spin and tell themselves, like, maybe it's infirmary, but there's something kind of...
tim pool
Maybe we need a dictator.
Maybe we literally need a dictator to be like... Just for day one.
No, for three months.
Because these people who are like, I want a job, like the idea that I get to have a big house, I get to have whatever I want, all the latest devices and all the latest fashion, and I'm gonna, like friends for instance, I work at a coffee shop and I live in this massive New York apartment.
libby emmons
They explained it eventually, but yeah.
tim pool
Sure.
What, like an heiress?
What was the explanation?
libby emmons
The explanation was it was Monica's grandma's apartment, and it was rent-controlled, and Monica took it over, and the landlord doesn't know that Monica's grandma's dead.
Because you can't grandfather those things in.
tim pool
Right.
Well, so what happens is, all these young people expect free stuff.
And I'm just like, I would love if, but for a moment, these people had to survive off of their own wits.
And we just dropped them in the middle of woods and said, good luck.
Because then they'd be like, but where's my latte in my apartment?
Make it.
But someone else should do it for me, and we should tax you and take your money so that I can live in this beautiful place.
The government should pay for my bills, and should cover the cost of my utilities, and someone else should cover the cost of transportation for me, and then I should be able to, you know, make a Chaz farm.
Remember the Chaz farm?
libby emmons
Yeah, that was ludicrous.
And it was filled with rats, and they tried to clear it just recently.
They cleared it.
I had this same conversation with my son, who was like, people should have free health care.
And I was like, really?
Who should pay for it?
And he was like, the government should pay for it.
And I was like, hon, have you heard of taxes?
And he was like, what?
And I was like, I pay taxes.
I work really hard, and I pay taxes.
Should I pay taxes so that other people can have free stuff that I pay for myself?
And he was like, oh, maybe I should rethink this.
Yeah, think it through, people.
Nothing is free.
tim pool
I've told this story before, but during Occupy Wall Street, someone gifted like 5 or 10 acres of farmland.
I think it was more than that.
I think it might have been like 20 or something.
And they said, you know, anybody who wants to come and live here can utilize the land and live off the land.
And a bunch of these hippie-to-be-moron college kids were like, I'm going to live carbon neutral and just live off the land because everybody knows that peasants had more vacation time than the modern worker.
libby emmons
That's such trash.
tim pool
They really believe that.
And I was, you know, how long did my friend last on this farm?
Two weeks.
libby emmons
That's it?
tim pool
Two weeks was all it took.
And she came back and I was like, weren't you going to go live on that farm and just live off the land?
And she was like, I would wake up at 6 a.m.
and go to bed at 11 and I would work the whole time.
And I'm like, uh-huh.
libby emmons
That sounds like my day.
tim pool
Sounds like living on a farm.
She's like, yeah, but it was crazy!
Like, I don't have time to read or watch TV or even take a shower!
And I'm like, uh-huh, yeah, it sounds like living on a farm.
Oh, you like living your petroleum-fueled luxury reality in America.
hannah claire brimelow
I think people who are willing to work hard decide that there is something worth it, right?
Maybe you have a family feeding it.
You just have to do it.
It's a necessity.
But then I think also people who like what they're doing, who are interested and passionate, feel driven.
And I think that's the problem with the young generation coming up is that they feel nothing.
They are ultimately negative.
tim pool
We are standing on the shoulders of giants in terms of the technology.
I was crossing the Williamsburg Bridge one day and I just thought to myself, how amazing That so many people came together to build this thing so that I can leisurely walk across this river where normally it was rather difficult.
And that was just, it's just there.
I don't pay for it.
libby emmons
There's three river crossings downtown.
tim pool
It's really, really amazing.
But now we have so many people who don't know what it took to build that.
And I'm going to add one more to that.
We're not just standing on the shoulders of giants who have lived in the days of yore.
We are standing on the shoulders of slaves in foreign countries and third world countries who are mining cobalt and other rare earth metals, and their teeth are rotting out of their faces, and we don't see it at all.
So when these activists are like, we should get rid of fossil fuels and all that stuff, I'll be like, well, you're the first to die.
Like, you know, when Greta Thunberg is like, we're not going to wait till 2030, we must stop now!
I'm like, that chick would be dead in three days.
libby emmons
But the other thing, too, is you have Joe Biden pushing for all of the solar and pushing for EVs and lithium battery-fueled things.
You see the Tesla in Chicago?
Yeah, that's actually pretty funny.
The dead robots in the car graveyard.
tim pool
Everywhere.
libby emmons
But also, we're saying, like, You know, instead of using fuel from America, fossil fuels, we're just going to have kids do the mining and we're going to use their labor.
But that's the Joe Biden thing.
tim pool
And there are people who are like, we can automate this mining.
No, you can't.
Maybe eventually we get to this point.
But humans, especially, you know, children, they got those little fingers that are good for digging around in tight spaces.
And so in these foreign countries, Google search the videos of the cobalt mines.
I mean, this is big news, where you have just like 10,000 people all just sifting through the mud and dirt to find this stuff.
And that's how you live in luxury.
But we're going to go to Super Chats, but I guess, because by popular demand, everyone is demanding Brimcast uncensored.
unidentified
No way!
tim pool
So fun!
unidentified
I hope you guys both want to stay and Tim's going to go to bed.
tim pool
Well, yeah!
hannah claire brimelow
No, it's well-earned.
That's not me being mean to Tim.
That's saying, please also stay, so it's not just me talking to the camera.
tim pool
But we'll go to Super Chats.
hannah claire brimelow
Good.
I love hostage guests.
tim pool
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Normally we do the members only uncensored show at 10 p.m., but because I'm operating on about three to four hours of sleep, it's actually pain.
I'm feeling all over my body from lack of sleep.
Once we wrap the Super Chats, I'm going to bed, but Hannah-Claire will run the Members Only, taking calls from you in the Members Only Discord where you can talk to us and our guests.
Not me, though.
I won't be here.
hannah claire brimelow
Just like I planned.
I made it snow for this.
unidentified
Wow.
hannah claire brimelow
Here's an opportunity.
Yeah.
I'm just kidding, I didn't do that.
tim pool
It was so brutal.
Driving from the airport, we landed in Hagerstown, and there's four inches of Just perfect fluffy snow and no plows.
We're in the middle of nowhere and the vehicles we have, we got a couple SUVs and a Honda Civic.
We had to drive 20-30 miles an hour the whole way back slowly sliding because there's no plows and salt in the backcountry roads or anything like this.
Oh, man, it took so long.
hannah claire brimelow
I get really impatient with that.
Like, I grew up in New England, so I grew up with snow, things like that.
But then, when you're driving, and the condition is just such that you cannot speed up, and there's no plow, and you just have to go slow, I start to just, like, get the jitters.
Like, I'm like, maybe it's worth speeding and flying off the road.
tim pool
But then once we finally got back to the house, going up the driveway 10 feet, and then slid back down.
And it's like, ugh.
But we're gonna read Super Chats.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
says, Moral compass doesn't point north.
A dream of hers is to bomb the earth.
Absolute bird brain, bat-ish crazy.
Everyone meet no teeth moving Nikki Haley.
My nipple has the first super chat saying foist.
That is correct sir!
You've won the prize.
Alright.
hannah claire brimelow
I hope they keep score on the discord of who actually gets, like, the most amount of firsts in a month.
tim pool
Maybe we can do something like that.
I wonder what the legality is of doing a contest where it's like, we will track every day the first super chat, and then whoever has the most at the end of the month... Gets a gift!
Yeah, or like, I don't know.
10 grand or something.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, okay.
libby emmons
Wow, 10 grand.
hannah claire brimelow
That's a really nice gift.
libby emmons
And suddenly a bunch of people are jumping in the chat.
unidentified
I think that, does that count as a- Well, we're setting your subscriptions one up, big time.
hannah claire brimelow
It's 10 grand, but it's all credit to our Teespring.
tim pool
The reason why I say I wonder if that's the legality, because it sounds like a lottery almost.
Because everyone's going to be paying two bucks to try and get it.
But we're not saying it's a random chance, you have to be first.
libby emmons
But then it's a sweepstakes, like if you call in this number- There have to be free ways to join sweepstakes, I think.
Aren't there?
Isn't that a thing?
Yeah I think we can't do that for sure.
Like with Publisher's Clearing House you had to like have a free way to...
tim pool
Yeah, so here's the other thing too, because we were planning on doing like this Timcast grant thing, where every month we'd give 10 grand, we just can't do it.
And so I have given people money through other ways, but basically the legality of it is, we want it to be like, if you're a member and you're working on a cool project and you share with us, we will help you fund that project.
It's not legal.
You're not allowed to do it.
You can't- That's so weird.
Why?
Because if you require someone to be a member with a chance to win money, you're engaged in illegal gambling.
Yeah, it's gambling.
And I'm like, yeah, there's a judging criteria.
And they're like, the way you do it is, you don't have to be a member, and an external panel decides who gets the money.
And then I'm like, yeah, but we're trying to do this for the community to invest in the stuff.
So basically, someone who's never supported the show, doesn't really watch, pitches something.
We can't ask them if they're a fan of the show and they support any of the work we do.
They get the money, and then someone who's worked really, really hard and has been dedicated, I'm like, so we really can't do it, unfortunately.
So we can't do any stuff like that.
Anyway.
That's right!
Or maybe Ron DeSantis!
unidentified
Oy.
tim pool
I gotta be honest.
needs to be pushed with every ounce of energy we have.
Nikki is a candidate for the Democrats because they have no one.
What if something happens with Trump court cases and is disqualified?
Nikki.
That's right!
Or maybe Ron DeSantis.
Oy.
I gotta be honest, I'll take Ron.
Yo, if Trump gets knocked out and it's Ron versus Nikki, Ron's got my vote.
And you know what's really funny?
Because I was saying before I wouldn't vote for him over the AI image debacle.
Then Nikki Haley jumped in and I was like, Lord help us.
I've realized my mistake.
It could get worse.
hannah claire brimelow
It's a good lesson for all of us to learn.
tim pool
But maybe that's the real plan.
They were like, look, Ron's not popular.
We need to make him look more attractive by relative comparison.
hannah claire brimelow
It's Ron's backers who are like, Nicky, come on, join the race.
tim pool
But they're like, we need Ron to look better.
unidentified
You know, this super long primary season we live in, it's never ending.
At least it really hyper-focused on their personalities.
And you couldn't get around it, right?
So you're really shined on who really Nicky is and who Ron is.
It's part of our culture now.
I wish we didn't live in this never-ending cycle of running for office.
tim pool
Since 2015, it's never ended.
unidentified
Never.
tim pool
That's crazy.
So crazy.
unidentified
I feel like it was just January 6th yesterday.
tim pool
I remember when we started Timcast IRL.
libby emmons
Don't forget January 13th.
tim pool
Some of the first clips we did was like reviewing Sonic the Hedgehog and talking about aliens.
And then just politics became pop culture.
Every day it got crazier and crazier and has been ever since.
And you know the funny thing is, so I have youtube.com slash timcast.
That's where the Culture War show clips go up every day.
And then the live show itself is on Tenet Media.
So guys subscribe to them.
They're awesome.
doing really great work.
And that was like, that channel, I would do a 4 p.m. news segment,
that was about a half an hour long, and I'd be like, here's the big story of the day.
And then I have youtube.com slash TimCastNews, subscribe to that channel as well,
where I put up four videos every day.
That channel was like movies, video games, commentary culture, pop culture stuff.
And all of that just turned into politics.
Nobody cares about any of that stuff anymore.
And so now that channel is just basically like the news and what's going on.
And man, it's kind of wild that this is where we've gotten to culturally.
It's just politics is pop culture.
libby emmons
Everything is politics all the time.
tim pool
I mean, Mia Khalifa being confronted by like some Jewish mother.
libby emmons
Jewish mom.
tim pool
I'm like, why is the porn star lady debating Israel?
libby emmons
Yes.
Why?
It's too much.
unidentified
I have a good friend, before I went on the air, his name is Mike Fils-Aime.
He's a big online marketer, tech guy.
And he says, tell Tim, thank Tim, because we were all afraid five years ago to come out.
So afraid.
Now because of Tim and these other podcasts across the country, we're ready to speak.
So he wanted to thank you for that.
tim pool
I appreciate it.
There was a really funny post in like 2017 where someone wrote about coming out as a Trump supporter and a bunch of people were commenting that they were like identical to coming out as gay.
It was like, I'm scared to tell my family and friends that I support Donald Trump because they'll shun me and ostracize me.
They won't accept me or they may kick me out of the family.
And I was like, this is so funny.
hannah claire brimelow
I think that is the experience, though.
And in some ways, because everything has become so political, I almost wonder if we'll get a moment where everyone's, like, burned out of politics and it becomes uninteresting.
I just think we have another four or five years to go, unfortunately.
serge du preez
Yeah, I feel a lot of people that have been saying they were just burned out in general.
tim pool
All right.
Joe Spinell says, this is a comment to your earlier segment, people in Alaska plugging in their vehicles.
Those are heater blocks, especially for diesel, not primarily for the battery.
Diesel fuel in sub-arctic temperatures can turn to jelly.
That's correct, but your earlier comment is incorrect.
Every vehicle had a plug in it, and they're gas vehicles, not diesel vehicles, and it was for their batteries.
At least that's what they told us.
The car rental agency said, your gasoline SUV will freeze, the battery will stop working, you have to plug it in.
In fact, when they gave us the car, the remote, The electronic entry didn't work.
Oh, I gotta tell you.
We got an SUV.
They give us the key to it.
It's minus 28.
It doesn't work.
And so we're out there, it's freezing.
unidentified
In Iowa?
tim pool
Alaska.
We're in Fairbanks.
And they said, yeah, if it doesn't work, just pop the key out because there is a mechanical key in it.
The car has no keyhole anymore.
They're all electric remote entry and it's too cold so it doesn't work.
And so they're like, oh, you have to warm it up.
And I'm like, yeah, so it was plugged in.
All the rentals come with extension cables.
And they say if you don't plug it in, your battery will die.
So that's what they told us.
hannah claire brimelow
That's crazy.
tim pool
I do understand that diesel also has heater blocks because diesel needs to get warmed up before it can start.
Sure, I get that.
But plugging in the vehicles was specifically because the batteries were dying.
And we went to the hotel and they didn't have any plugs.
So we went in and said, it's minus 28 right now.
Will the car be fine overnight?
And the lady said, no, your battery will be dead in the morning.
And we're like, okay.
And she's like, so go drive around until you can find a place to plug it in.
And if you can't, park in a handicap.
And then we waited.
Someone left.
We took a spot.
We plugged it in.
But that's what we were told.
Maybe they were wrong.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
Alright.
Sarah Lee Hooper says, Encanto is the last good Disney movie worth the watch.
I don't believe it.
I'm not watching it.
unidentified
Sorry.
libby emmons
I never saw it.
tim pool
I'm not gonna do it.
libby emmons
I'm okay.
tim pool
Yeah, so She-Hulk, I guess that's, you know, She-Hulk got cancelled or whatever.
hannah claire brimelow
Good.
That show was weird.
I only saw one episode of it.
unidentified
Get woke, go broke!
libby emmons
My son and his friend hate-watched that show.
hannah claire brimelow
What was their take?
libby emmons
They would tell me about it.
They hated it.
They just thought that it was really lame and that the main character had absolutely no story arc.
tim pool
Yeah, and then the story arc doesn't even... Like, what arc there was is her just jumping out of the Disney Plus... I'm not kidding.
She jumps out of the Disney Plus thumbnail for the show and then walks around the Disney Plus streaming app and, like, then meets Kevin Feige or something.
Man, they really had no idea what they were doing.
They lost their minds.
All right, The Homeless Veteran says, how do I get on here to tell my story about an insane paranormal mission I had overseas that is still not acknowledged?
Retired Army.
And about my persecution by the FBI and USG, I want to tell it, I-D-G-A-F, about after.
That sounds like a job for Shane Cashman.
hannah claire brimelow
Normal stuff is definitely Shane.
tim pool
Yeah, the Inverted World Live show is going to be getting started very soon.
Because we finally got the Freedomistan building done.
But it's not just Freedomistan.
The new studio location we have is 50 acres.
It's got multiple structures.
We've got two primary offices and studios for the show.
So we can launch more shows.
Really, really crazy what we're building over here.
We're investing millions into our new skate show, The Boonies.
So subscribe to The Boonies!
I think it's Boonies HQ on YouTube.
You can search for The Boonies.
And, uh, Instagram, where we're going to be building, uh, we've already built this large private facility.
The skate park should be done in about April.
A bunch of pro skateboarders have already come through and done interviews with pro skateboarder Richie Jackson, who is our principal host of the Boonies Show.
And we've got big interest from some of the top pros in the world.
I gotta tell you guys, have hope, and do not be blackpilled.
When I watch these huge pros for like Nitro Circus, and I'm talking like big professional athletes, and they're wearing Public Square t-shirts, Black Rifle Coffee, we are winning.
It used to be that these pro skaters I'd complain about, they'd hit me up being like, look, man, I'm a big fan, but I'm scared I'll get fired from my job.
Now they're like, well, if I do get dropped, I mean, Black Rifle called me up, they're offering sponsorships.
I'm like, yes!
So, you know, as much as people have had beef with Black Rifle in the past, yo, they're sponsoring athletes and giving them a chance to say F you to the woke garbage?
That is awesome.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I know people have a lot of opinions about Black Rifle Coffee, but every time I'm in a Walmart and I see how much Black Rifle Coffee is there, it kind of blows my mind.
Because I remember when they were just sponsoring people on YouTube, I didn't even know if they had a retail store, and now it's like, oh, you're pushing your way into the mainstream.
tim pool
When I heard that, I don't know if I'm breaking it, I don't think I'm breaking it, but Travis Pastrana is sponsored by Black Rifle.
unidentified
I'm pretty sure that's true, right?
tim pool
Let me just, let me double check here.
Yeah, Travis Pastrana is sponsored by Black Rifle Coffee, I believe.
Whatever.
And when I found out that was happening back in the day, because he was on Red Bull before, I was like, we're winning.
And this is massive.
This is a pro to a company.
Far from perfect, a lot of people have their criticisms, but there's other pro skateboarders wearing public square shirts, and pro athletes, and I'm like, we are winning.
Some of the biggest pro skateboarders in the world, in their skateparks, have Rumble on their walls.
And Rumble, I believe, is the exclusive location for Street League skateboarding.
I'm like, guys, we're winning this.
Now I'm getting hit up by some of the biggest names in professional sports, in action sports, saying like, we're huge fans, we're gonna come out, we're gonna skate, scoot, blade, bike, all that stuff.
And I'm like, this is it.
Young people are going to be pulled in this direction.
We're going to believe in freedom, meritocracy, individual responsibility.
This is how we do it.
Good fun.
libby emmons
I just wanted to say, with regard to Disney, did you guys see the new thing that they came up with, which was the first deaf Native American amputee superhero?
tim pool
Echo.
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, but I don't really have an issue with it so much as they're making it about that because imagine if Daredevil was like the first blind superhero and the whole show was just about how he's being oppressed for being differently abled.
So when they're like, we're making a show about a minority deaf woman, I'm like, no, no, no, hold on, hold on.
We like Daredevil, okay?
He was a kid.
He got blinded.
So he attuned his senses.
So now he has like super senses and he became super great.
Blindness does not make him.
It actually makes the character really interesting.
Like in the scene in Spider-Man, when he's sitting at the table and the brick flies through the window and he catches it.
And they're like, how did you do that?
And he's like, I'm a really good lawyer.
Like, it's great because a blind person should not be so good at this, but he's a superhero.
So if they're going to make Echo, who's deaf, It needs to be like, look, Daredevil is blind and he has echolocation because his ears are so good, but it's also his weakness.
Loud noises go, ah, and he falls.
What are they doing with Echo?
She is a minority amputee deaf woman.
And then they do a bunch of cringe stuff in the trailer that are, it's about being deaf.
And it's just like, oh, come on, man.
libby emmons
That's the lame part, is when you make it about the thing, as opposed to about a story or a narrative or something organic.
hannah claire brimelow
The Office, of course, is a quiet place, right?
Where, like, the daughter was deaf, but it worked out in this world because it gave this family this advantage.
They already spoke sign language.
Like, that's when I felt like that played into the storyline well.
tim pool
Big Champ says, Buenos noches, Tim and friends.
I'd like to recommend Youngstown, Ohio for your live show.
Being the halfway point between Pittsburgh and Cleveland, you'd be sure to draw a good crowd.
Penguin City Brewery is a possible venue.
I'm pretty sure Youngstown is where, during the Occupy protests, the police and firefighters joined in the protests over the corruption in government.
And then the government went to the police and said, we'll give you anything you want.
The cops said, you got it.
Turned around and arrest all their co-protesters.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
I'm exaggerating like that's medieval the cops got what they wanted and turn around said okay everybody time to go
home Reminds me of I think it was family guy
Peter Griffin's protesting the new supermarket that the super center that moves in like this Walmart or whatever
Mm-hmm And then when he goes in to complain that for my job then
he turns around walks out says you are trespassing and you are
required to leave That's the reality of a lot of people man
They'll sit there and scream and protest.
All you gotta do is offer them cash and then all of a sudden they're like, I'm with you.
This is true for a lot of these leftists.
I make a wager.
Maybe we can do an undercover show to prove this point and really destroy some of these woke far-left extremists.
Undercover footage where you go to some far-left Antifa person and then just legitimately offer them cash to do a job that they would otherwise protest.
And when they say yes, Then be like, oh, hey, look, here's this guy you think is a big eco-activist and environmentalist.
We offered him, you know, a six-figure job working on a petroleum rig, and he said yes.
Well, you know, it's because I thought I could do more good.
Yeah, okay, please, dude.
hannah claire brimelow
But also work.
I just feel like that's the thing that's gonna be averse to.
tim pool
Yeah, you could be like, hey, you've got a bunch of followers on social media.
We'd be willing to pay you.
You know, like, hey, we agree.
We're trying to save the environment, but help us do the right thing and spread the good word about the good work we're doing and why petroleum is good, and we'll pay you 20 grand.
And they're gonna be like, okay.
hannah claire brimelow
There were a bunch of, um, or I saw this report that gas stations were trying to give sponsorships to lots of, like, young social media influencers to be like, come to my gas station, it is cool!
Which I thought was kind of funny.
libby emmons
Gas stations are always cool.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, but the fact that you have to pay an influencer to tell you that, that's weird.
tim pool
Wyatt Caldenberg says, HCB, do the after show, you are smart and well-read, you and Libby can do it.
Three Collins and Smalltalk, it's time to move your game up a level.
hannah claire brimelow
Dude, thanks.
This is career coaching from the chat over here.
What a hype.
You guys are fun.
tim pool
And then Christopher Lambert says, Brimcast, Brimcast, Brimcast, Brimcast.
I'm not putting the energy into it.
I'm tired, but there's like 15 exclamation points there.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, I appreciate this.
Oh my gosh.
Surge texted me, I will say, during the show being like, Sir, are you being serious about this?
And I was like, it's yours.
It's Tim's idea that I do the after show.
So I'm glad the chat's in support.
I'm happy to do it.
tim pool
That's the point of having other people work at this company.
It's just the after show, but it keeps the- So I can't ruin it.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, it's behind the paywall.
tim pool
Well, no, it's like, you know, it's an opportunity for the guests to call in and ask questions.
Yeah, no, I'm happy for it.
hannah claire brimelow
I really like our members.
I did, over Thanksgiving, Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
walked me through how to use our Discord, because I'm a boomer, and I got to talk to people in the Discord.
It's such a cool community.
I'm glad that we have been able to cultivate it somehow, or at least bring them together in a central place.
tim pool
So the event we did in Iowa, I think we're going to end up losing, you know, low five figures on doing that trip because it costs like it costs over $100,000 to do in order to get nine people.
Because we have people who produce the show, manage the venues, work with guest relations and stuff, and security.
The only way to do it is if we fly out on a private jet.
Only way to make it possible.
And I'm not some hippy-dippy eco-activist, I don't care if you're flying on a private jet as long as you can afford it.
But if you're a hypocrite, then I'll make fun of you.
So, you know, it's like, so last week on Tuesday, As soon as the show wrapped at, you know, 11, we got out the door, got in the car, drove straight to the jet, landed in Iowa at like 2 in the morning, went to bed, and woke up to start producing, uh... Oh no, no, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, that's not what happened.
The flight got cancelled because of the weather.
Did the morning show and then left that morning.
Landed and then did the nightly show.
Then coming back was also extremely brutal.
We were sponsored by Based Records, B-A-S-T-E Records.
Super grateful for their help.
excited to work with them on some music projects too.
And that helped cover a bulk of the costs, but not all of it.
We sold tickets, the ticket sales cover almost nothing.
And so we lose money doing it.
But I think it's incredibly beneficial to the company.
And I think it's incredibly beneficial culturally to have these on location events where people can come
and hang out and actually watch the show in person and ask questions.
But one of the plans I think we're gonna do, we've been advised by some bigger companies is,
and this is Luke's idea, is to do super private, like VIP dinners
between five and $10,000 per ticket, not for individual regular people,
but for businesses who wanted to have private meetings.
And it's not because we wanna make money, it's because we wanna fund the show.
So it's like, if we want to do more events, here's the restriction.
We reach out to sponsors and say, hey guys, we want to do a stage show in this place, it's gonna cost, here's all the costs, we'll show all of them to you.
Stage production, camera, equipment, rental, security, and people don't understand how expensive security is.
Seriously, if you've got a presidential candidate coming down, they're gonna be like, how many exits and entrances in the building?
Eight?
I want two guards at each entrance.
Okay, those are 50 bucks an hour people.
And so all that's super expensive per day.
But this way, we can actually put it out there and be like, if we can't get a sponsor, we'll try that approach.
Because we've actually had people say straight up, they would, like we've had people be like, hey, I will give you X amount of dollars to just be able to come and do like a private meeting with you guys.
And we're like, why don't we do a dinner?
And so I think that's one opportunity to help fund more of these things.
Because we've got people who want us to do, you know, once a month or something.
And I'm like, bro, that is so brutal.
Like, people don't sleep.
Gotta get on a plane.
The only way that's possible is with a lot of money.
And then everyone says, okay.
And we're like, okay, well then you help fund it.
And they're like, okay.
And I'm like, alright, we'll give it a shot.
We'll see what happens.
So that's one idea we might do.
And, uh, you know, we'll see what happens, but, uh, I think the next event will have a series of, like, ultra-VIP private dinner tickets, which is basically what politicians do when they're like, hey, it's, you know, five grand for a ticket to come have dinner with me.
But ours is gonna be like, you come have dinner, then we go to the show, and you help put that show on, and we'll give you a shout-out and a thank you for sponsoring the show.
unidentified
Well, Trump does a fundraiser.
He charges for clicks, photos.
tim pool
Really?
unidentified
Beforehand, yeah.
Just to get a photo, $25,000.
Something like that.
tim pool
$25,000 for a photo with Trump?
unidentified
And then afterwards is the regular fundraiser for maybe $1,000.
tim pool
I get it.
I mean, if you're doing a fundraiser and you're like, look, like Trump's- When you get a photo with the sitting president, right?
Yeah.
And my thing is like, my first thought is, man, to try and charge that much.
But there are people who are like, look, I run a big company.
We want to pitch some ideas to you.
We would help.
It's basically not that you're giving us money for profit.
It's your sponsor.
So these are like, you get to have private dinner and then you're also a listed sponsor of the show at the time and stuff like that.
So I think it'll be fun.
And that's what we'll try to do.
So that'll help us get more events and allow us to travel to more places.
All right, the real Raul Camacho says, Magaswami, Vivek VP, make it happen.
unidentified
He would be good.
tim pool
He would be good.
I don't know who would be better, to be completely honest.
I know who politically and market-wise could be good, but Vivek is, man, Vivek is a good weapon for Donald Trump.
You cannot win an argument with that man.
Like, the media will try to go after him, he's gonna run circles around him.
Very, very smart guy.
Very smart.
And very articulate, right?
What did Joe Biden say about Barack Obama?
Do you remember that?
unidentified
No?
hannah claire brimelow
No.
tim pool
Joe Biden said something about Barack Obama was articulate.
libby emmons
Didn't he say he was articulate?
Yeah.
unidentified
Something like that.
This guy is our president and he was his vice president.
tim pool
He didn't say it like that.
He said something.
hannah claire brimelow
But it probably was basically like that.
I mean, somebody must bring in this golden retriever immediately.
unidentified
Actually, if Trump said, Vivek, take over my press conference today, it would be amazing, right?
Because Vivek is an incredible hand in the press.
He did say that.
Almost as good as Trump.
tim pool
Yeah, in 2007.
libby emmons
He said, I mean, you got the first mainstream African American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice looking guy.
tim pool
Dude, Biden's a scumbag.
hannah claire brimelow
But the MAGA extremists are racist.
unidentified
I know, right?
What?
libby emmons
He said, I mean, that's a storybook, man.
tim pool
Geez.
hannah claire brimelow
Oh man.
tim pool
Alright, Classic Stang Lover says, doesn't cabinet members have to be pre-approved by Congress?
Would they allow the vague?
I don't think they have to be approved, right?
Cabinet members?
No, that's just like hiring your staff.
unidentified
I think so.
tim pool
There's certain positions that have to be approved, confirmation, but those are like bureaucratic positions.
Alright.
Get a pair with Sully, says Tim.
Dems infiltrating Republicans the same as what the Whigs did when they went extinct.
The Whigs took over the Democrats completely and remained prominent in Reps.
The first Republican president was a lifelong Whig.
Yes, Lincoln was a Whig.
Oh, you know what would be really funny?
If Republicans infiltrate the Democratic primary, and then nominate Trump, and then Nikki Haley wins the Republican, but Trump's the Democrat, and everyone's just like, I guess I'm voting Democrat?
I never thought that would happen.
Then Donald Trump is like, I'm changing parties now that I'm elected.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
BT Diaz says, the cabinet positions, etc.
for Vivek is good and all, but how much government experience did Trump have in 2016?
I reject this notion that government experience, small-time or otherwise, guarantees a good president.
I didn't say that.
I said Donald Trump has experience in government, so he'd be better than Vivek Ramaswamy.
Vivek Ramaswamy getting experience in government would make him a better president in 2028.
unidentified
And it keeps him in the news.
tim pool
Exactly.
He needs to be in the news.
unidentified
He needs to be And you know the news is not going to get any nicer to Trump and we need a fighter like Revek going against the news cycle, going against the mainstream media constantly because we're going to get a barrage of anti-Trump, anti-conservative.
hannah claire brimelow
Sorry, I'm jumping out of my skin tonight.
I'm so nervous about Brimcast.
No, and what Tim said, what I remember about it was that one of the things Trump had to do during his first time in office was to learn where there were issues and learn where the landmines are.
Having experience, being able to see what's going on on the inside would benefit Vivek or whoever is the nominee in 2028.
tim pool
Joden80 says, if Trump picks Tulsi for VP, doesn't that boost his chances of getting on Rogan?
Does that boost her chances?
Dude, a Rogan-Gabbard-Trump episode would be the most viewed podcast in history.
unidentified
Yeah, probably.
libby emmons
That would be cool.
tim pool
Like, if Trump went on Rogan, it would get a lot of views, and it may be close to the most viewed podcast in history.
But, like, you throw someone in the mix, like Tulsi Gabbard, or even Vivek, and it's gonna be the most.
Like, who's gonna miss that show?
serge du preez
Yeah.
unidentified
No way.
tim pool
I would watch it.
Yeah, for sure.
Alright, let's grab one more here.
What do we have?
unidentified
Alright!
tim pool
Jason Hutchison says, Tim, buy a jet and when they are not flying you around, rent it out.
That is an option.
And jets aren't as expensive as people think.
I shouldn't say jets, but private flight.
So we did look at this.
There are like five seater turboprop planes that are a couple hundred grand.
So that means you're spending like two or $3,000 a month on the loan.
Then you've got to have staffing.
That could be like 100 to 200K for a good pilot and you probably need more than one.
So, all in all, we talked to a company, and we were like, if we want to do, every month, some kind of event, that means we need a jet.
And they said, ultimately, you're going to end up spending, like, a million bucks a year to maintain, fuel, and fly this thing.
And you've got to make it worth it.
And I'm like, oh man, that's kind of crazy.
If we do like four events per year, we're gonna be spending like a hundred grand per year in private flights.
And so, okay, maybe that's, you know, we do something smaller.
But there's something called net jets, where you spend several hundred thousand dollars to buy a share, shares in a fleet.
And then when you schedule a flight, all you have to do is pay the time for the staff.
You pay the flat costs, so there's no profit, you know.
Like when you book a private jet, there's a broker fee.
They will, someone's renting the plane out, they wanna make a profit.
With net jets, it's just covering the costs and you're a part owner
and you can always sell your shares later.
libby emmons
So- It's like a timeshare for jets.
tim pool
Yeah, and it's what a lot, I think it's what, whenever I talk to ultra rich people,
most of them don't even bother having jets that I talk to.
But I mean, if you're super rich, like Bill Gates, but I got five, Trump's got three, I think.
But for like the not ultra billionaires, It's just it makes more sense.
I know a guy who's like Effectively a billionaire and he's like and net jets is easier.
They handle everything for you.
Don't gotta worry about pilots You don't gotta manage anything.
hannah claire brimelow
You just call them up and say here's the flight I need and they say we'll see you there Is it ever funny to you that you have reached a place in your life where people are like, Tim, just buy a private plane.
Just buy a private plane, Tim.
tim pool
I always knew this day would come.
hannah claire brimelow
OK, so you did.
tim pool
No, not really.
I mean, it's it's when we're at this point where we flew on a private jet last this morning, we are landing.
And it's funny, I'm thinking about it, how it's not fun.
libby emmons
Was it NetJets?
tim pool
Did you use NetJets?
I was a broker, as a regular broker.
The first plane we got out there was great.
It had a wifi on it.
The flight back didn't.
You know, you never know what you're gonna get.
Cause you just, basically what we did was we called a broker
and we said, we need a flight, and we said, here's what we can find for you.
And you gotta pay these ridiculous fees and it's massive, it's expensive.
But for me, it's just like, it is not fun to land at three in the morning
and then not get any sleep.
libby emmons
No, that doesn't sound fun at all.
tim pool
So these people make these videos and Instagram posts where they're like walking onto a private jet.
And I'm like, the average person who's flying is bored of flying and is like,
ugh, I've got to travel for a meeting.
It's work, it's work, it's work.
And it's a practical issue of, is there business and market demand for what you're doing?
And if there is, then you have to spend the money on it.
And I don't walk out of the airport and go, wow, look at me on a private jet.
And I'm like, ugh.
We got to rush out the door.
It's stressful.
It's painful.
It's uncomfortable.
There's no food.
You do not like the bat if you if you're lucky enough to get one of these things with the bathroom because most of them don't have like a lot of jets and turbo props.
They have no bathrooms.
Yeah, you're flying.
You're flying for a couple hours.
No bathroom.
They say go before you leave and good luck.
The nicer ones will have a bathroom but the bathrooms are really awful.
And you're cramped.
unidentified
Really?
tim pool
It's not fun.
Flying first class commercial is better.
Way better.
They give you a steak, you get a wet cloth, a hot towel, and you're wiping your face.
But then you gotta go through security and deal with all that BS.
And so in the long run, it's like, I can't go to IAD to fly at midnight to catch a show in Iowa and do this stuff.
So that's where we're at.
But we'll wrap it up there.
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Adam, do you want to shout anything out?
unidentified
Thanks for having me, Tim, and we'll have some great, I got some great spots to tell you for your tour, and hopefully we'll see you in New York.
New York?
And Miami again.
tim pool
Yeah, I think Miami's absolutely yes.
New York will probably be like outside New York somewhere, you know?
unidentified
Long Island.
hannah claire brimelow
Maybe.
tim pool
Yeah, maybe outside of New York State, you know?
Maybe we'll figure it out, but thanks for hanging out.
hannah claire brimelow
Are you on social media?
Should people follow you on?
unidentified
Adam Matthew is my Twitter handle.
Adam5PR is my Instagram.
Cool.
libby emmons
What about, like, Niagara Falls?
unidentified
Yes!
hannah claire brimelow
Let's go to Niagara Falls!
libby emmons
That sounds fun.
tim pool
It does sound fun!
Pittsburgh's out of the question.
hannah claire brimelow
That is heartbreaking to me.
tim pool
I'm so sad about it.
Without naming any of these venues, the general idea as conveyed to me is they're all basically like, if we book you, Antifa will burn down the venue.
libby emmons
Damn.
hannah claire brimelow
Come on, Pittsburgh.
tim pool
No, not clarifying.
I don't believe anyone has explicitly said anything like that.
hannah claire brimelow
But they're scared.
tim pool
The vibe is, as I'm described, it seems like, I'm being very careful, their concern is that Antifool will burn down their venues if they host us.
hannah claire brimelow
I still wish we could do a show somewhere in Pennsylvania because I think it's just such an interesting time to be in Pennsylvania.
tim pool
What about Harrisburg?
We may have a big West Virginia one coming up.
hannah claire brimelow
Good.
I love West Virginia.
Great.
Also a good place.
tim pool
Not far away.
hannah claire brimelow
Okay.
unidentified
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
Which is one of the benefits for Pittsburgh, but yeah.
Well, that's too bad, but hopefully our Pittsburgh-based friends could come on down to West Virginia.
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Libby, I was so glad to see you tonight!
libby emmons
Yeah, it's great to see you too.
I'm Libby Emmons.
I'm the editor for The Postmillennial and Human Events.
You can find me on Twitter at Libby Emmons.
You can check out all the great work we're doing at thepostmillennial.com and humanevents.com, and you can subscribe also, which would be great, at thepostmillennial.com slash subscribe.
serge du preez
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You can find me pretty much anywhere on the internet at S-E-R-G-E-D-O-T-C-O-M.
unidentified
Spell it out.
serge du preez
I'm gonna get that URL soon.
Uh, yeah.
We're set up for this Brimcast.
tim pool
Alright everybody, head over to Timcast.com, click join us, become a member, and you can watch Brimcast Uncensored, the first ever official episode coming up in a few minutes, and I will be sleeping, and I will have Yu Yu Hakusho on in the background.
Thanks for hanging out.
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