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tim pool
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unidentified
Is yours not set up or what's going on?
tim pool
Welcome to the Late Show.
I'm going to drink and eat into the microphone in total disrespect to our audience because I'm barely paying attention.
unidentified
Sorry about that.
tim pool
Oh, it's the first members-only show of 2024.
How spicy should we get?
phil labonte
As spicy as you want to get.
tim pool
Retard.
andrew meyer
Retard!
phil labonte
Retard is fully back on the menu.
tim pool
Oh, I've been tweeting retard like crazy.
Somebody was talking shit and I said something that was retarded and they were like, you're dumb.
unidentified
Honestly, I just wanted to tweet retarded.
tim pool
I just needed an excuse to do it!
And I think I was talking about DeSantis or something.
shane cashman
I've been slipping it into just normal conversations outside of Twitter, just in the real world.
It's fun watching people's faces and like, oh wow, you can say that again?
Like, yes, you can.
tim pool
Remember that joke that woman said when she was like, I got in trouble for calling a guy homeless?
And she was like, I didn't call my house retard.
And then someone commented being like you didn't have to use the r-word or whatever to make a joke And I'm just like oh fuck off, but Dave Chappelle was saying you did though Dave Chappelle was saying that's why he got attacked because it retard He made a joke about homeless people and LGBT, so a gay homeless guy tried to murder him.
shane cashman
He said he was a B. And that the Post said he was an alleged attacker.
And Chappelle goes, he was definitely an attacker, but he was allegedly gay.
And he looked at it and goes, he was bisexual?
I could have been raped!
tim pool
He was like, I could have been raped!
And he was like, I'd like to see... He kept calling everybody N-word.
I'm not allowed to say that.
We're not that edgy.
shane cashman
Oh, come on.
Let's hear it.
tim pool
I'm not going to repeat Dave Chappelle.
Sorry.
But, uh, he said, uh, uh, what was I gonna say now?
Now I'm forgetting.
shane cashman
Talking about, uh, getting attacked.
tim pool
He said, I want to see that dude suck a dick before I accept that he's a bisexual.
Because the media was making Dave the bad guy.
shane cashman
Yeah, yeah.
He said he got six weeks more bad press for saying that the gun identified it as a knife, or the other way around.
tim pool
Because it was a knife.
It was a fake gun that concealed a blade.
So there was a knife identified as a gun, and they attacked him for it.
But let's do this.
That is fun shit, but I really want to talk about the story that we saw.
Uh, from Daily Mail.
male, why are Gen Z aging so differently to millennials?
Experts reveal pressure to use wrong skincare to young, vaping and getting Botox in their
20s means younger generation look older than those in their 30s.
You know, everybody always talks about how, um, like in movies, 30 year olds look super
Like back in the day, like 90s movies.
Like how is it that this guy who was 30 at the time looks like he's 50 by today's standards?
You know what I mean?
And I wonder if it is actors were getting a lot of work done back in the day so that they didn't age well into it and it made them look old.
Plus there was lead and gasoline and a lot of smoking and boozing.
Now what's happening is, take a look at this.
They got some actually, some good pictures here.
Uh, where they're like, look at this 22 year old versus 34 year old Taylor Swift.
And I, I mean, she does kind of look, she looks older.
It's kind of weird.
Also, her eyes are crooked, which is kind of weird, but you know, I don't want to be mean because I don't know who she is.
phil labonte
She looks dead.
shane cashman
Maybe she's just a- She does.
tim pool
She looked like, you know, she dead.
But, uh, the Millie Bobby Brown one's crazy.
Yo, she looks 47.
phil labonte
I don't know about 47.
She definitely looks- Millie Bobby Brown.
I mean, I would totally bang her, but like she still does look dead.
tim pool
Millie Bobby Brown.
Uh, she's 19, by the way.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Millie Bobby Brown is really looks like a 47 year old woman trying to look 19.
Yep.
phil labonte
I didn't realize she was 19.
unidentified
Welcome to the members only everybody.
She does look older than 19.
tim pool
That proves it.
That proves it.
Phil did not know how young she was.
phil labonte
I didn't know.
tim pool
I thought she was older.
See, that's a funny thing.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
How old do you think she was?
phil labonte
I thought she was like 25.
unidentified
Right?
tim pool
And so she looks older.
And so you're like, she looks like she's 25 and you were wrong.
She's 19.
unidentified
Hey, still legal, but still creepy.
shane cashman
It's weird that they've, they've been hyper sexualizing.
The girls like that.
Like, she's not Disney, but it's Disney-adjacent because it's Netflix.
phil labonte
I still, I go for 25 because of the whole cranium thing.
The brain development thing.
tim pool
This one's not fair.
Jack Harlow looks like he could be 25.
He does look like he could be a little older.
But Thomas Brody-Sangster looks like he's 7.
He does.
shane cashman
What is that?
I mean... Thomas Brody-Sangster is 33.
Is that an Oompa Loompa?
phil labonte
Does he have that?
shane cashman
I don't know what that is.
phil labonte
It's Benjamin Button.
tim pool
He's like 6'3", I think.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
No, I'm kidding.
unidentified
6'3"?
phil labonte
Curious case of Benjamin Button.
I don't know who that is on the right, but she looks horrible.
tim pool
That's Amelia Dime.
serge du preez
She's a YouTuber.
tim pool
Dime Oldenburg.
shane cashman
Yeah, I don't know these people.
tim pool
I mean, bro, she's 22 to 29.
It's not like that big of a difference.
But yeah, like, dude, what's her face?
Lorde?
Everybody commented how she's 17 going on 50.
Oh, Sam Marsh?
serge du preez
Sam Marsh, you mean?
tim pool
Yeah.
serge du preez
Yeah, true.
tim pool
She's 17 going on 50.
She looks so old.
But basically what they're arguing is that Gen Z today, because, like look at this, because of the filters on Snapchat, they're getting surgery.
They're getting crazy ass surgery and vaping and drugs and other crazy ass shit.
It's making them look weird.
shane cashman
Yeah, I wonder how many, like, young women went and got butt implants because of the Kardashians, then took them out, and now are getting, like, the cheekbones removed and stuff.
tim pool
It's just crazy.
Hold on, JTR, Demon Slayer says, LMAO, do y'all realize you're just shitting on women's looks right now?
Bro, we just made fun of a guy for looking like a seven-year-old.
Come on.
Guys are included in this.
We are equal opportunity offenders.
Shout out to Dave Chappelle.
phil labonte
So what if we were?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Phil, women are dumb.
phil labonte
It's not women are dumb.
It just so happens that we were making jokes about these people.
They happen to be women.
Quit crying.
We'll make fun of men.
It's not like we don't crap on men.
tim pool
Yeah, men are so dumb.
Good grief!
Dude, Dave Chappelle had such a fucking great joke.
He said that he thought his wife was cheating on him, so he took her phone and he went downstairs while she was sleeping and tried to put on the passcord, it wasn't working, and he's like, and then I realized, it's an iPhone!
It's got facial recognition!
Well, my wife's Asian, so I'm like this, and then it opened right up!
Now, I'm allowed to laugh because I'm Asian.
No one else.
And then, dude, this is a master class in punching in every direction possible.
Like, just getting everybody in on the joke, I should say.
shane cashman
So beautiful.
tim pool
He then goes up, and he's talking to his wife, and he's like, who's this guy?
And she's like, he's gay.
And he's like, what?
And he's like, I'm looking at the texts from this guy, and I'm like, his mouth is open in a lot of pictures.
Yeah, he's gay.
You can just tell, right?
He's like moving around the way he's moving around and holding his arms.
And then he's like, all of a sudden she pulls my phone out from under her pillow and then she opens it up and I'm like, how'd you open my phone?
And she goes, all I had to do was mash my nose.
shane cashman
God, it's so good.
It's great.
I mean, I've watched it three times now.
It's a problem.
But, like, I'm obsessed with the trajectory of his stories.
If you watch it and the way he tells his story, and, like, sometimes there are throwaway jokes that come back.
It's just beautifully written and that's I can't watch it without seeing
something new each time.
But I'm a nerd, you know, and there's not a lot of people I'll do that for, but he's
one of the very few people when they drop something, I really need to see what they
have to say about the world. Even though I don't agree with everything he jokes about,
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tim pool
The younger generation is going to be a bunch of carrots, dolphins, and rabbit people.
Because the transing is just going to go off the fucking charts.
shane cashman
So it's like furries, but surgically done.
unidentified
That's what we're getting.
phil labonte
I think there is room in the future for augmentation.
I do think that we need a society I think that most of our problems could be solved if society in and of itself, not the government, but if society in and of itself just decided, you know what, we're going to focus on things that are good for families.
The government should promote things that are good for families, but they won't.
tim pool
So, as we all know, Mickey Mouse is now public domain.
Yeah.
Let me pull up Luke's tweet, because one of the members on the show.
phil labonte
I tweeted, all that remains took the audio for a song called The Greatest Generation, and we put that with- It's on Twitter now?
It's on Twitter.
tim pool
I'm sorry, I'm going to give a shout out to Luke Rutkowski of We Are Change.
You know, we sell shirts, we sell merch, but I've got to give credit where credit is due, because Luke just posted a t-shirt of Steamboat Willie saying, the COVID vaccine makes you gay.
unidentified
Luke, I died laughing when Tim showed me this earlier.
phil labonte
I could not believe it.
tim pool
I thought he was going to make one where it was Mickey saying 9-11 was an inside job, but he made one saying it's Mickey saying the COVID vaccine makes you gay.
unidentified
So good.
phil labonte
I like it.
tim pool
I forgot what I was talking about.
What were we talking about before this?
Why did I bring up Mickey Mouse?
I lost my train of thought.
andrew meyer
Gen Z, we have to win the culture war.
tim pool
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, now I remember.
Think about how easy it is to make a t-shirt like this.
Public domain stuff.
But anyway, what I was thinking about is like, So when I saw this, I immediately was like, oh shit, we can do Steamboat Willie now, it's public domain.
So I went on to Mid Journey, which is on Discord, and I typed in a bunch of crazy ass shit I wanted to see Steamboat Willie do.
And I got some weird fucked up shit.
I was like, you can't tell Mid Journey to make Steamboat Willie murder people.
It'll be like, no, it's against the guidelines.
So what you gotta do is something like, Steamboat Willie, in his kitchen with his steak knife for dinner, Surrounded by sleeping men with red paint all over them.
And guess what it'll show you a picture of?
A knife-wielding Mickey Mouse and a bunch of bodies on the ground covered in blood.
andrew meyer
Amazing.
tim pool
I started thinking to myself, I'm like, dude, the fact that you can, we're almost to video.
We're doing simple AI video.
Like, uh, remember that, um, Ave Azura dude who made that, the Capital AI movie?
shane cashman
I don't think I do, no.
tim pool
You didn't see this?
shane cashman
I don't know.
unidentified
Shut the fuck up.
shane cashman
Sounds like some post-reality shit.
tim pool
Bro, Aze Alter?
unidentified
Huh.
tim pool
Yo, dude, this guy is just, the Capital of Conformity, you didn't see this one?
shane cashman
No.
unidentified
You.
tim pool
You didn't watch this?
phil labonte
I haven't seen this either.
tim pool
Fuck, should we watch it?
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
It's two minutes, alright, we're gonna watch it.
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shane cashman
That just looks like a documentary, honestly.
tim pool
He's got a sequel, but there's two points to be made.
The reason why I brought it up, but if you hadn't seen it, you got to watch it.
shane cashman
Yeah.
tim pool
Um, the first is he made that all with AI.
So this is, this is video.
It's simple video because it is weird.
It looks like, it looks like kind of like a nightmare sequence.
But the point he makes about the dreams machine got me thinking, man, three years.
Three years, I think, to where we're at the point where you'll take your Oculus, put that set on, turn on voice text and go, video of a man saving a woman from a burning building, and then you're watching a VR view of this AI generated perfectly.
Not like this, like an actual video.
Think about how crazy it starts to get.
Where, I don't think that's three years.
I think that scenario is like a year, where you can actually just type in the video you want and AI generate it.
But I think within three years, we're at the point where you're like, generate a world where, give me a scenario where I'm in New York on New Year's Eve, Times Square.
It'll have all the video data.
The AI will just have compiled it all.
It'll know exactly what New Year's looked like, and it will create a VR real-time of New Year's Eve in New York on 2023.
And you'll be controlling and walking around, and there'll be people all over the place.
There'll be AI-generated people, and you'll be able to interact with them.
They'll be speaking English and talking and giving you stories.
You'll walk up to someone and be like, hey, what are you doing here?
And they'll be like, oh, I'm visiting from Dubuque, man.
I've never been in New York before.
Great to meet you.
AI can already generate all this stuff.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Within five or ten years, you're at the point where you can, like outside of Neuralink, you will have the VR headset, and you will play any video game you can think of.
And we're years away from that.
shane cashman
Your brain will be Nintendo Switch.
tim pool
The Dreams machine they mention in this.
Bro, people are gonna see that photo of Phil Labonte opening for Metallica, and they're gonna be like, I want to do that.
Yep.
Render me a video of me on stage opening for Metallica and they're going to be there and they're going to be
singing and they're going to be like, fuck the world, bro.
Why should I struggle to try and succeed in any industry in music, in podcasting, when I can put on this headset
and have people talk to me, adoring fans.
They can, you can actually be like, I want to know what it's like to be, insert famous rapper.
Like I want to be yay on stage.
And they'll actually take a yay concert cause they have the video footage.
And then you're there in real time and you get to be him.
phil labonte
I can't help but wonder if AI or this this kind of technology is the great filter.
Like, any society that can sufficiently master technology to be able to travel interstellar, to do interstellar travel, they have to have been able to- This is one of the answers to Fermi's Paradox.
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.
tim pool
The quote, let me see if I can look this up.
phil labonte
You know, why go search the stars?
When you can have everything that you want, you know, on your home planet.
shane cashman
Well, I value the real world and the risk that comes along with it.
You know, like I don't see any value in the fake, you know, applause or exploration through that unless it's like, but then you can say a book is like that too.
But the book is you're living in the real world, processing something instead of living it through the fake world.
phil labonte
I think.
tim pool
Damn, I can't find this quote, but there's some scientist who said, if man ever shakes hands with aliens, it will not be because we overcame nuclear weapons, but because we overcame the Xbox.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
So this is a question about Fermi's Paradox and the Great Filter, where we blow ourselves up.
No, we don't blow ourselves up, we masturbate to death.
shane cashman
I think we're there now.
Like, uh, watching that reminded me of the picture that like people like Cerno were sharing recently where everyone's filming the fireworks.
Maybe it was in China, New Year's Eve, right?
I was in France.
Everyone's got a phone out.
And I, that reminded me of how it was.
I was very late to having a smartphone.
All my friends had smartphones.
So they were all, I had an Nokia with no camera for years and they all had cameras.
I remember going out with them.
In those early years with those, they were reliving the moments that we were living at the moment we were living them, right?
Cause they take a picture and we're all just like staring at the pictures on the phone.
I'm like, yo, we're here in the real world though.
And then that just turned into like, now we're in full blown nostalgia world where everyone is living in like the dream machine.
You're more or less with Instagram or Facebook or whatever platform you use.
Your phone is just like a time portal, time capsule of your memories.
tim pool
Now imagine how long until Neuralink And then we've talked about it quite a bit, but I'm telling you, man, once people can get Neuralink, they will get Neuralink.
I don't care what anybody tells you.
shane cashman
They will.
tim pool
People are going to be like, I wouldn't do it.
They'll fucking do it in two seconds.
shane cashman
Absolutely.
tim pool
You're like, bro, anything you've ever wanted to experience is readily available.
You want to go to the moon?
You go to the moon, install the Neuralink, and then you can plug in and tell the AI exactly what you want.
Do you want, how about this one?
You go to work, your boss is mean to you, and you're like, man, I just wish I could plug in Neuralink, say, alright, generates my office, it's at the Waxen factory, we, on 349 West Lakeview Street, and the time is 3pm, I'm working there, my boss is this person, the AI can pull up all that data, and Neuralink, And then you're back there at work, and then you get up on your desk and go, screw you, boss!
I quit!
And then you knock things over, and it feels so good, and then you unplug and you go, that felt good.
shane cashman
The early stages of that phase of Neuralink, where you could go and do anything you want, there's gonna be people doing arson and killing people, and at some point, I'd imagine, into the later phase, they're gonna say, that's a thought crime, turn off his Neuralink, he can't be doing that.
tim pool
No, they're gonna say, yes, do more, because you're in your isolated world.
This is what the World Economic Forum hopes for.
All the useless eaters will plug their brains in the machine and be given paradise.
shane cashman
I reject that.
tim pool
But think about it.
Their attitude is, don't you want to be anything?
How would you like to be a superhero?
Do you want to be Spider-Man?
You can feel what it's like to be Spider-Man and save Mary Jane.
You want to be Superman and save Lois Lane?
All you gotta do is plug in the Neuralink.
Basically what they're saying is, we will give you undeniable pleasures if you get the fuck out of our way.
And then the scary reality is your world turns into you with your teeth falling out, you're disheveled and crippled, they feed you bugs, but you don't care.
Because before you eat the bugs, you turn on the Neuralink and you're eating chocolate cake.
shane cashman
And when it's time to go, you just 3D print your suicide pod and peace out!
What's they're doing?
Have you seen those 3D suicide pods?
3D printed suicide pods?
They're insane.
phil labonte
Are they real now, though?
shane cashman
Oh, yeah.
The 3D printed ones might not be real yet, but there's real suicide pods.
unidentified
For sure.
shane cashman
There was a picture of a lady waving goodbye in it the other day.
tim pool
Let's go to callers!
serge du preez
Indeed.
Let us see who this first caller is.
Names are always too long.
Justin L. Sims.
How are you, buddy?
You're live with us, my friend.
There you are.
unidentified
Yo.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm sorry.
I think you have delved so deep into conspiracy theories that my question is irrelevant.
But what I've got is what would be the most poignant thing Alex Jones was right about leading into 2024?
serge du preez
Good question.
unidentified
The most poignant thing Alex Jones was correct about was the interdimensional demons.
Obviously, the Satanists, the globalists, they're communing with demons.
They sit in a coffin full of feces and urine.
phil labonte
They try and beg for it.
unidentified
They beg for the demons to come to them, and that's what they're actually doing.
They're Satanists.
andrew meyer
They do satanic rituals, and they kill babies.
unidentified
And if you want to stop them, you've got to go to alexjonesgame.com right now.
Get the game.
shane cashman
I mean, that is possible.
But he's been talking a lot about assassinations, and that's a scary but plausible reality to me.
Because I talked to him in maybe July, and we were talking about how the character assassination economy that we've been going through, which is basically the cancel economy, is waning.
And they will turn to previous methods of taking people out.
phil labonte
Yeah.
shane cashman
And that's what scares me.
Obviously they've done that before and that kind of conversation's gone mainstream again because we have people like RFK Jr.
running and you can't not talk about his dad and his uncle.
And then what the media and the bureaucrat class has done to Trump over the past four years, five years.
So it hasn't happened yet, but that's something he's talking about that seems quite plausible to me.
andrew meyer
Funny, funny answer that I gave aside.
I really do think that they do that stuff, and there's evidence that they do, but the most poignant thing, Alex Jones, he made a documentary called Endgame over 10 years ago that pointed out they're gonna try and shut down the world's economy by releasing viruses, and then it frickin' happened!
So...
Paying attention to what Alex has to say and right now he's all about the border and talking about the hundreds of thousands and hundreds of thousands and hundreds of thousands pouring through the border and how it's a UN planned invasion and they're trying to destroy the country.
I think that might be actually the most poignant right now.
shane cashman
Yeah.
serge du preez
Anything else to add my friend?
tim pool
I gotta say.
unidentified
Yeah, I was thinking about the Lansing Sandy Hook situation where the FBI had contacted him in the ninth grade and then told his mother, even reported after the attack, that he could be considered for a kind of a computer hacker situation.
with the FBI.
You know, I know a lot of people don't want to touch that situation, but it's often the most controversial theory that Alex, you know, reported on his show.
tim pool
No idea, I don't know.
shane cashman
I don't know about that part.
I mean, I know about the Sandy Hook situation and all my, so I can't speak to exactly what you're talking about, but in terms of what we know of him talking to different media outlets about, or audience members questioning Sandy Hook, my defense of people who I knew who were like disgusted by that conversation, I would just be like, it's an unfortunate question you have to ask if you know about certain things like Operation Northwoods, if you know that your government has Thought about certain things.
It's, I hate, I hate to even consider it, but you know, we have these documents that say they plan to perform false flags.
And so you have every right to question it as uncomfortable as it might make you feel.
tim pool
My fear is that, uh, there will be an attempt on Trump's life, which will succeed.
And, uh, I fear that baron Trump is there and tries to save his father and in the attack, his right eye and arm gets scarred.
Because that's a sign of the Antichrist.
shane cashman
Is he a time traveler too?
andrew meyer
Serious though, Trump has a Zohar.
The Zohar is the Holy Grail.
Trump is protected, so their attacks against him will fail.
Zohar.com.
Oh, the shooting thing.
It's very, very interesting.
The FBI always has these people on a list before the attack.
I didn't even know that about Lanza.
Like the Parkland shooter.
shane cashman
The guy that just shot up all those people in Maine a few months ago.
They knew about him.
He was literally in a hospital saying, I'm hearing voices.
They want me to do bad things.
He was on their list.
Look what he did.
There was another guy they found.
He didn't do anything yet, but they found him with guns and the messages on the wall saying make the voices stop or something like that.
andrew meyer
It's like an internet joke now, like, oh, say the line, like, we were monitoring him or whatever.
He was on our radar, that's it.
serge du preez
Well, I hope that answers your question, man.
unidentified
Well, that was actually six years before Lanza was investigated by the FBI because he had infiltrated FBI mainframes because he was a hacker.
And that's what they said to his mother.
They said, we would offer him a job once he graduated high school because he's so good at this.
Like they said, they're all on the radar.
They all know about them.
It's almost cultivated.
Thank you, guys.
serge du preez
Hey, cheers, brother.
unidentified
Happy New Year.
Cheers.
Cheers, Serge.
serge du preez
And now we've got Monsieur Talillon.
How are you?
unidentified
Hi, I'm doing pretty well.
Um, thanks for taking the call.
serge du preez
Of course.
unidentified
My question, I guess, is more related to stuff we have going on this year besides politics, but I mean, it's kind of related.
So 2024, like every four years we have presidential elections, but we also have the summer Olympics.
Interesting thing really is that, I don't know, I guess like I'm kind of young, so I haven't been around that long, but normally I think that we should have been hearing maybe a little bit more about this in the news, considering it's supposed to happen in July.
We got like, at least for swimming, I know we have the trials coming up in June.
Um, I don't know.
I feel like it's not- That's a really good point.
That's a really good point.
tim pool
We should have been getting mass advertising for the Olympics months ago.
And we've gotten nothing.
It's almost like it's not gonna happen.
unidentified
Damn.
Where is it supposed to happen?
andrew meyer
That's the first time I haven't known where the Summer Olympics is going to be.
serge du preez
I saw Tokyo in 2020 and I thought, well, Paris is over.
unidentified
Oh, where they love to riot?
phil labonte
There's going to be a Paris in the summertime.
shane cashman
Holy moly.
serge du preez
That may be why, actually.
Maybe why there's not a lot going on, because they just can't.
shane cashman
They're just keeping it on a low?
serge du preez
How are they going to start building on that stuff?
They're just going to start tearing it down.
phil labonte
They're too busy fighting the rioters to build the actual infrastructure necessary to have the Olympics.
serge du preez
Exactly.
And even if they got it built, if they got it built, it would just be burned down.
unidentified
Yeah.
serge du preez
Let's be real.
It's going to go down the next day.
shane cashman
Yup.
serge du preez
That's a really good question, my friend.
That's very, very perceptive.
shane cashman
I think that's a symptom of us being trapped in a 24-7 election cycle since 2015.
It hasn't ended and it's driven us all mad.
You know, it used to be like, oh, we have election season.
We're going to get up into it.
We're going to debate.
Then it goes away.
tim pool
2016 never ended.
shane cashman
Never fucking ended.
And that's why we've gone crazy.
And then, and then Epstein, then lockdowns and, you know, you name it.
andrew meyer
That speech right there is why I love Shane Cashman.
That's what I came for, baby.
shane cashman
Dude, I don't know.
I feel like it's just... I feel like I talk about lockdown a lot, but it was just... I have like a kind of PTSD from reality dying.
You know?
serge du preez
Yeah.
tim pool
Friday's gonna be based AF.
shane cashman
Friday's gonna be dope.
tim pool
Yeah, we're gonna be talking about MH370 conspiracy stuff.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
tim pool
Yeah, it'll be fun.
shane cashman
Planes disappearing.
phil labonte
Who's coming in?
shane cashman
Advanced technology.
tim pool
Uh, what's the guy's name?
shane cashman
Ashton Forbes.
phil labonte
Sick.
shane cashman
Yeah.
tim pool
I'm not the conspiracy guy.
I have no idea.
Shane knows it all.
shane cashman
Yeah, I know it all.
We'll see.
We have a lot to talk about.
It's a very complex, very long story that he's unpeeled, but obviously, you know, we've all, I think we all might remember where, do you remember where you were when you found out about that plane going missing?
unidentified
No.
No.
shane cashman
Really?
unidentified
No.
shane cashman
I was randomly in a Malaysian restaurant and I've never been in one before that or after.
And I saw on the TV with Nancy and I'm like, that's fucking weird.
A plane went missing.
And we're eating Malaysian food for the first time.
andrew meyer
That's some synchronicity for you.
shane cashman
Brooklyn.
Yeah.
My life is filled with that kind of weird stuff.
serge du preez
What year was this again?
shane cashman
What?
serge du preez
What year was this again?
shane cashman
March 8th, 2014.
Yeah.
Okay.
serge du preez
Okay.
It was 2014.
phil labonte
Jesus.
shane cashman
I know.
phil labonte
A decade ago.
unidentified
Yeah.
Crazy.
shane cashman
All right.
unidentified
Monsieur Talillon, anything else to add?
No, that was about it.
Thanks for taking the question.
I'm glad I'm just not an anecdotal case where it's like other people are kind of like when you mention it are experiencing the same thing where it's not getting mentioned.
shane cashman
Yeah, no, that's a good, a really good observation.
serge du preez
Yeah, I think so too.
Cheers, brother.
Happy New Year.
All right.
Newstavo, how are you?
Happy New Year.
unidentified
Good, good.
Happy New Year.
Thank you so much for taking my call, guys.
It's really an honor to talk to everybody.
phil labonte
Cheers.
unidentified
I'll jump into my question here.
So I keep seeing this meme floating around X where it shows a bunch of fat guys on the top and then on the bottom, it's the army.
And it says, if they want a civil war, we have the army.
So, I guess, what happens if civil war pops off with the armed forces?
Is there going to be infighting on the base?
Do you think everyone's going to desert to run home and try to defend there?
tim pool
It depends on what happens.
But I can give you a really simple scenario.
Have you served at all?
Have you been in the armed forces?
unidentified
Yes, I was a Marine for five years.
tim pool
So, uh, would you consider, like, um, guarding, uh, I don't know, a delivery to be, like, a reasonable order?
Like, if your commanding officer was like, hey, we got a big shipment coming in, we need you to secure the area or whatever, you'd say sure, right?
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Okay, and then what if it turns out that your commanding officer is the guy leading the coup and the delivery that's coming in is a bunch of weapons he's going to use to arm guys to go fight the government?
You had no idea it was happening.
So, in the event of civil war or conflict, it could be very simply that a ranking officer in a certain region decides, holy shit, the federal government is illegitimate.
They are facilitating the storming of the southern border in violation of the Constitution.
He gets in his mind something very simple.
We are a nation of, for, and by the people, and only through the consent of the governed, and the supreme law of the land, which is the Constitution legally, are agents of the government allowed to act.
In violation of Article 4, Section 4, the Biden administration has begun facilitating the destruction and invasion of this country, and someone must do something about it.
And this guy has a high enough rank to be like, he knows.
Everybody below him has no idea what's going on.
Any order he gives that is secure this area or detain this person would be viewed as reasonable and lawful.
And then he instructs the people beneath him, to whatever reasonable degree, to go engage in actions to stop the invasion of the southern border.
Then, media that the area that's familiar... Let's say he's in Texas.
Let's say that there are political commentators See what he does, and they say, this guy's a hero.
He's doing the right thing.
What did he do?
He went to the border, and he instructed his men to stop the invasion.
The federal government then sends their guys to go and stop this guy stopping the invasion, and then you've basically got two military factions, both arguing over what's legal and what's not.
Then they both turn to you, yes you, and they say, whose side are you on?
So that's the question, whose side are you on?
Matt Taibbi described it a few years ago as the point at which two vehicles are speeding down the highway, top speed.
They pull up to the police station, slam their brakes on.
Two men jump out of each- a guy jumps out of each car and they run straight to the police station and they both yell to the cop, arrest that man at each other.
And the question is, who does the cop arrest?
So my point is, Civil War doesn't necessarily mean some guy comes out with a declaration and says, I hereby declare, we are a new nation!
It could be as simple as this.
A local FBI office gets a phone call.
Someone says, hey, a guy killed my wife.
I need help.
FBI says, why is it our problem?
Explain what happened.
And he says, the guy crossed eight lines.
We believe it may be a federal issue.
In the course of the investigation, the local FBI office, let's say Texas, discovers this guy crossed illegally.
And in fact, is part of a network of individuals who are crossing illegally and says, okay, it is within my purview and legal jurisdiction to arrest and stop these people that are trying to, let's say my wife was kidnapped.
Okay, now these illegal immigrants, human traffickers and coyotes
are gonna smuggle someone out of the country.
So the FBI agent contacts local law enforcement and says, we're gonna stop this operation, I need local support.
It's a human trafficking ring, they're kidnapping children and women.
They pull up to the southern border and the guy is part of a coyote group
that is being protected and facilitated.
Their efforts are being facilitated by the Biden administration.
That's a fact.
The Biden administration is doing this.
A court ordered them to stop, but they were absolutely working with the coyotes to bring in and traffic humans.
At a certain point, someone in law enforcement doesn't think they're engaging in a civil war.
They're just like, holy fuck, we found out who these guys are, and we found out when they're coming through the border, we're going to arrest them.
So they show up, and they're in plain clothes, maybe they have badges around their necks.
They see the coyotes trafficking people, and they pull out their guns, and they say, Freeze!
unidentified
Hands in the air!
phil labonte
Don't move!
tim pool
When all of a sudden, a bunch of D.C.
Bureau guys jump out with guns, also in plain clothes, and scream, Don't you move!
unidentified
Don't you move!
tim pool
At the Texas guys.
Neither has any idea who they are, they work in different offices.
The Texas guys say, Oh shit, it's an ambush!
Local sheriff is on scene, and they open fire, killing federal agents.
The coyote guys flee.
One of them gets caught by the Texas guys who bring him in.
Texas guys find out they killed a bunch of federal officers who are acting under orders to protect the coyotes who are kidnapping children.
Civil War.
That's possible in a scenario like that.
It becomes a big scandal, the press plays things out and says, these guys are criminals.
The problem is, in Texas, do you think law enforcement officers, like a duly elected sheriff, his deputies, and local FBI, who are stopping human traffickers, are going to be locked up?
The public's gonna be like, wait, what the fuck?
These guys were doing good.
The federal government's gonna be like, he worked for the FBI, didn't report what he was doing, and locals came in and killed federal officers who were part of a legitimate operation.
Locals in Texas then say, these are human traffickers from Central America breaking into our country in violation of the law, and the federal government's helping them.
So, when it comes to how the military acts, in 1860 it was, for many of the Confederates, they were like, well look, they were trained at West Point, but they were like, but I'm from Virginia, that's my home.
Like, these states were basically countries, and the thought was, I can't go anywhere else.
If I join the federal government and attack my home state, where do I go?
Nowhere.
So for us in the United States, we now view this as one big country.
So the issue just becomes, to what degree of autonomy does every branch of law enforcement and the military have?
Because to varying degrees they have certain control of a certain amount of space.
So, with the military, there's varying degrees of rank, and the higher rank you go, there's more and more people that are underneath you.
You have a certain degree of autonomy as to what you can tell these people to do, but of course you report to someone who's higher than you.
But what happens when it's a split-second decision?
Human traffickers are caught on the border, you need to act now.
So, National Guard guys go out because it's riot, it's chaos, the governor calls them in, and now the National Guard's fighting with Army.
It's like...
No one's going to know who's good or bad, you're just going to be shooting.
So, what happens with Israel, it happens, like friendly fire is a common, common occurrence.
You're in a security situation, you hear gunshots, you don't know who the fuck's shooting.
I've not- I've not been in warfare, but when I've been in riots, I hear gunshots.
Was it the police?
Or is it the rioters?
I have no fucking clue.
Which way do you run?
Who the fuck knows?
If you run towards the cop, you might get shot.
If you run towards the- the rioter, you might get shot.
What the fuck do you do?
You get the fuck down, and you get out of there.
In war, is it your guys or is it their guys?
No idea.
So if it comes down to it, There have been situations where the DEA and the FBI have run sting operations on each other.
You hear these stories?
Plainclothes, FBI and DEA.
One guy is pretending to sell drugs, one guy is pretending to buy drugs, and it turns out... It's a Spider-Man meme.
Right.
Absolutely.
unidentified
Those stories are hysterical.
tim pool
So now imagine that happens in terms of national conflict.
Let's talk about army in Texas.
So this is why they try to move people around.
They do not want Texans to comprise the bases in Texas.
They don't want that.
But let's say you live in an area.
And, uh, man, like Hunger Games is a really great example of this stuff.
Like, I know the movies are silly and stupid, but there's a good human element to what they're writing about.
You live in an area, you go to the club every day, you know the bartenders, you know all these people, and then one day you find out that the locals are, in Texas, are aiding and abetting.
The stopping of the trafficking.
Because Texas said they're gonna stop this.
So you got a local sheriff's department, and they're like, we're gonna go on, we're gonna go down there, we're gonna shut all the trafficking down.
The federal government is sending agents to facilitate human trafficking.
This is a fact, I'm not making that up.
When they were raising the razor wire, disabling the barriers, and even flying people on planes under the Biden administration's orders all over the country, the Biden administration is trafficking people.
I'm sorry, sooner or later, some dude who joined the military to stop evil is gonna be like, they are not the legitimate government of the United States.
They are in violation of Article 4, Section 4, they are aiding and abetting the invasion of this country, and the question then becomes, and the question's already now, who's the legitimate government of the United States?
If the Biden administration is facilitating an invasion, which they're doing, How would they actually be the constitutional government?
No, the argument is they're a criminal element in the government that has exceeded any justification.
At which point, we have to ask ourselves, who actually is the legitimate government?
We may find ourselves in a scenario where you get members of Congress, fuck 2024 at the end of the year, vote and say, we held a contingent election, Donald Trump's the president.
Then the Democrats say, no, the state's electors voted, Joe Biden's the president.
And then you have to ask yourself, who's the president?
Civil wars are never easy.
There's no circumstance where it's just like, I'm in charge.
People think Civil War is simple.
Like, a group of people will declare secession, and you clearly know who the government is.
And like, oh, the federal government's saying no secession, therefore we're on the side of the federal government.
Obviously we're not secessionists.
But what happens when Democrats in the Senate 50-50 vote Biden, 50 vote Trump, and then they're like, There is no government.
And then you're gonna get red state military being like, look, contingent election is what the constitution says.
Then you're gonna get blue state military being like, look, the electoral college said this.
Republicans don't have a say in this.
And then, who do you take orders from?
But anyway, I think I over-answered the question and we do gotta get to more callers, but did you wanna add anything?
unidentified
No, absolutely not.
You went well above and beyond on the answer.
Thank you so much.
tim pool
Right on, thanks for calling in.
serge du preez
Cheers, brother.
Happy New Year again.
tim pool
And maybe nothing happens.
I always say that too.
And it's funny, because I always say maybe nothing happens and everything calms down.
And from this point, and then the Whitmer stuff happens and January 6th happens and the riots happen.
shane cashman
Nothing could happen.
But you mentioned West Point.
I grew up in the town right next to West Point.
I grew up surrounded by the graves of soldiers who fought in all the wars.
And it's just like you get, I don't want to say desensitized, but I'm like, well, that war wasn't that far apart from that war.
There's a cyclical thing to this, you know?
And then while also being at West Point, you're seeing cadets who are going to war.
Not all of them are coming back, right?
I know a ton of people who just died, you know, out there.
tim pool
I think we're dangerously close to a scenario where Texas law enforcement goes to the border and says, look man, I'm a deputy.
My boss told me not to let anybody through.
And then there's a federal border patrol guy being like, back the fuck off.
This is federal jurisdiction.
You have no jurisdiction here.
And the guy says, you back the fuck off.
I live here and these people are not supposed to be coming in.
What happens?
Cause they're not gonna back down.
shane cashman
Oh, in Arizona, there's a Sheriff Lamb is running.
He's running as a Republican against Kerry.
And he, you know, Kerry would say he belongs to help him with the border still.
I don't know how his campaign's going, but when I was in Yuma, I heard a lot about him and he's done a lot.
It seems like he's been trying to do a lot of good down there.
Cause the Sheriff's the only people who can talk openly about, you know, anyone who's with any power down there, they're the only people who talk about it.
tim pool
I'm worried the alternative scenario is, Some crazy motherfucker's gonna get a full auto, go down to that border and just be like, unload on people.
Ian's brought it up.
shane cashman
Or it doesn't have to be a crazy motherfucker.
It could be someone, it could be a false flag too.
tim pool
Ian's brought up, he's like, sooner or later, you watch these videos, some dude's gonna go down with a gun and start mowing people down.
andrew meyer
Where is Ian?
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
Let's get that last caller.
serge du preez
Yeah, let's do it.
Hey, uh, Tim of 09.
How are you doing?
unidentified
Hi, Serge, how are you?
serge du preez
I'm doing well.
unidentified
I noticed the name change, so... Oh yeah, I'm, you know, I'm feeling trance today, so I decided to do a change.
Alright, well I'll get to my question.
So, I like the Civil War discussion.
Given how likely political escalation of violence is this year, how can we advocate in our state and local governments to prepare for it, and how would, or how could our state and local governments prepare for a potential Civil War?
Is there any way to prepare, or is it just gonna happen?
tim pool
You as an individual can.
You can buy food.
You can get proper training.
I'd recommend hostile environment training.
I'm actually talking with some of our security guys about maybe doing a hostile environment training.
So hostile environment is non-combat.
Basically, we teach you what to look for to stay safe and how to do basic first aid.
I don't want to do any kind of combat training.
That wouldn't be me, but I recommend everybody get basic firearms training.
I've done only a little bit, but gun shooting quite a bit.
Be familiar with guns.
I'm certainly no expert.
But what I would say is, any kind of civil war for like your state, there's nothing they can really do.
What can they do?
The states as prepared as they could probably be, but factions are not going to be based on your state's politics.
Illinois may very well find itself in a red faction jurisdiction, instantly occupied by anti-establishment forces.
Because what are they surrounded by?
A bunch of country folk.
Illinois is a red state.
It's got a blue city in it.
shane cashman
It's kind of like New York.
tim pool
Exactly.
But New York's got some mixed, further north.
shane cashman
Probably more, yeah, for sure.
tim pool
Illinois is red as it comes, and then Chicago is blue as it comes.
So Chicago, instantly, it's occupied.
Yeah.
And I'm thinking about West Virginia.
West Virginia would be establishment forces in two seconds.
shane cashman
What do you mean?
tim pool
The proximity of West Virginia to DC guarantees that West Virginia gets occupied militaristically.
Look, Maryland is a good example.
Maryland was a slave state, and so was Delaware.
And Maryland was instantly occupied.
Lincoln arrested like 29 members of the state legislature and created a suspension of habeas corpus corridor And arrested people for no fucking reason, because Maryland was like, was a slave state.
They were like, this state wants to go with them.
They're north of DC.
Nope.
So they went and arrested politicians.
Same thing would happen to West Virginia, I'd imagine, because West Virginia is so based, that there would be an instant military occupation, and then a bunch of mountain folk would go, you know.
shane cashman
I keep thinking of the mountain folk, it would be like, yeah, guerrilla warfare in West Virginia.
tim pool
And there's ain't no way you're fighting a bunch of rednecks from West Virginia.
The reason why West Virginia is not populated is because it's too difficult to populate.
It's a big mountain.
It's a bunch of big mountains.
Yeah.
shane cashman
I love West Virginia.
I fucking love West Virginia.
There's nowhere else I'd want to live.
Honestly.
serge du preez
Try Idaho, man.
I actually don't.
shane cashman
I love this country.
I love going to California.
You know, it's beautiful out there.
It's politically deranged, but I just, I, when I come back from all the travels, I am very happy to be back in West Virginia.
The kids are happy here.
The community's better.
It's beautiful.
And, uh, yeah, we'll hold it down.
andrew meyer
I've enjoyed the people here.
I know, uh, Cassandra Fairbanks has raved about it many, many times, too.
shane cashman
Yeah, she would call it Best Virginia.
phil labonte
Best Virginia, yeah.
shane cashman
That's right.
It's true, though.
tim pool
Look, man.
They're filing false charges against people.
shane cashman
Yep.
tim pool
They're launching false investigations against people.
shane cashman
Journalists are going to jail.
tim pool
Journalists are going to jail.
They're being investigated.
Taylor Hanson's being spied on.
These people are not acting under the purview of government.
They're acting like, look, a guy puts on a police uniform, gets a job at the department, and then on his second day at the job, robs a bank.
You arrest him.
He's not acting in his official capacity as a police officer by stealing money from the bank.
What the Biden administration and Merrick Garland is doing is no different than if a local police officer was caught raping a woman or robbing a bank.
The question is, What do you do when there's no superior authority to stop it?
If a cop is committing crimes, internal affairs.
If a powerful, prominent cop, the chief, is committing crimes, the FBI stops it.
What do you do when it's the FBI committing the crimes?
Tucker Carlson said on the show, at what point does someone just say no?
shane cashman
Right.
tim pool
Yep.
Sometime soon.
phil labonte
Every chance that you get to say no, you should.
shane cashman
Yes.
phil labonte
Now, I don't think that you should ruin your life over it, but every, like, if the cops ain't looking, did you really break the law?
serge du preez
Spoken like a true libertarian right there.
phil labonte
What was that?
serge du preez
Spoken like a true libertarian right there.
phil labonte
Yeah, you know, I mean, look.
You know, the law is a suggestion.
And the evidence of that is the fact that they sometimes punish laws by fines.
That means that you can break the law if you have the money.
Well, maybe just break the law if you don't have the money to.
shane cashman
Depends on what you mean.
tim pool
If you're talking about smoking pot or something like that, fine.
But if we're talking about... If the cops aren't looking, is it a crime?
I mean, you raped a woman.
phil labonte
Fair enough.
Obviously, any time... I'm talking about... Any violent crimes are obviously... I'm not referring to violent crimes.
I'm not referring to crimes against property.
This is a very libertarian take and usually it's discussed among libertarians.
So, for clarity's sake, I'm not talking about violating someone else's rights or injuring someone else.
But like, you know, if...
shane cashman
I was about to be a serial killer libertarian.
phil labonte
This is not, this is not like, oh, just forget about everyone else that exists.
But you know, if there's no victim, is there really a crime?
shane cashman
Yeah.
phil labonte
So, yep.
shane cashman
And that's what I mean, like with the police state is like, they're trying to grow this giant eyeball, but the satellites and everything to watch you where you can't just Do a crime.
phil labonte
Yeah.
shane cashman
If no one's watching.
phil labonte
I'm, I'm, I'm, I've talked about this a little bit before, but I'm of the opinion that the surveillance state is not, they're not trying to create it.
It exists.
Anything that the government wants to find out about where you've been, what you've done, it's already been logged by private companies and all they have to do is all they have to do is subpoena.
shane cashman
Everyone listening, please tune in.
tim pool
We don't have to spin anybody.
phil labonte
Well, fair enough.
All they have to do is get it from them.
shane cashman
Tune in Friday morning for the conversation we're going to have with Ash and Forbes because this is a big part of that story and it's going to blow your minds.
And Lockheed Martin's a part of it.
tim pool
Was that good?
Was there anything you wanted to add before we wrap up?
unidentified
Yeah, that was good.
I mean, I don't want to black pill it, but honestly, it seems like if we don't go for Vake, like, I don't see how anyone on the left will accept Trump, and we don't Balkanize, but, no, yeah, I don't know.
Thanks for my calling.
phil labonte
Cheers.
tim pool
I don't know if Vake has talked, Vake tweeted out something about, like, Trump's not gonna, they're not gonna allow Trump to run, right?
shane cashman
I guess.
Was that him?
I saw something, I didn't read the whole thing, but he was alluding to that, like, they won't let him run, so it's kind of like a pitch for him.
tim pool
We'll see what he says on the 10th, because I think... I don't speak for him, but I think he tweeted something like that, so we'll see.
But anyway, Andrew, thanks for hanging out.
andrew meyer
Thanks, Tim.
This is a ton of fun.
tim pool
Oh yeah, it's good.
It's simple, it's easy, and imagine being scared of coming here, you know what I mean?
These politicians, man, they suck ass.
phil labonte
It's dark outside.
There's no streetlights.
tim pool
Bro, we're getting a major snowstorm this weekend.
They're lying.
They're full of shit.
They said this before.
We've been in a snow drought for two years, and they said there's gonna be a snowstorm, and then nothing happened.
Bro, it was raining in Chicago on Christmas at 60 degrees.
phil labonte
Oh, yeah.
Dude, it rained all week in New England.
unidentified
Wow.
phil labonte
All week.
No snow at all.
tim pool
They're saying we're gonna get a foot of snow.
phil labonte
Yeah, we'll find out.
tim pool
I don't believe it.
unidentified
If we do, we're going snowboarding.
tim pool
All right, everybody.
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