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tim pool
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We got this story from the Daily Mail.
It's another one of these.
It's another one of these.
But because Lauren's here, I figure we can ask some for the female perspective.
UFC star Paige Van Zant reveals she made more money flaunting her body on OnlyFans in 24 hours than she did in her entire fighting career.
The 29-year-old sports star shared how she started sharing saucy snaps.
She makes more money in one day.
It's really simple.
In a traditional marketplace among human beings, they are more likely to pay you if you're a woman for sexual objectification as opposed to masculine fighting.
lauren southern
I mean, this works for a lot of things.
Sometimes I walk by my closet and I look at my socks and I'm like, hmm, 50 grand right there.
unidentified
If I'm willing to let go of my dignity.
phil labonte
There's a website like Only Feet or whatever.
lauren southern
Only Feet, yeah.
tim pool
I'll make it very simple.
Would a man be more likely to pay a woman to watch her fight or to get naked on camera?
lauren southern
Yeah, get naked.
tim pool
Yeah, like a guy's gonna be like, yeah, look at that chick.
I'd love to see her box another chick.
lauren southern
Well, even the boxing itself, to some extent, is a sexual event going on.
Like guys are watching it.
Like, I even have to, as much as I try to avoid that and don't want that to be my career, I have to acknowledge there is an aspect of my political career where people follow and watch my videos because they're like, oh.
tim pool
Did you publish it?
lauren southern
There is a sexual attraction there and unfortunately, that's like something I'm not inviting but happens and you have to accept that.
Oh, what's going on?
tim pool
Oh, sorry, you didn't click publish.
phil labonte
Oh, that's it.
tim pool
Three demerits.
lauren southern
Are we not live?
serge du preez
No, we're live.
It's still going to be recorded.
It's live.
tim pool
It's just going to be like a minute delay or whatever.
lauren southern
Okay, no one saw my funny joke.
tim pool
No, they did.
lauren southern
I was funny for a second.
unidentified
I swear.
phil labonte
You laughed.
I'm polite.
lauren southern
You laughed at a woman's joke.
phil labonte
I'm polite.
I'm polite.
lauren southern
A polite laugh.
tim pool
Plus the discourse.
unidentified
I thought you were a man.
tim pool
We're seeing this more and more and the reason why I'm talking about this is I think this is one of the greatest things ever.
These women who are doing OnlyFans are going to have a much harder time getting quality guys.
I'm not saying they won't have kids.
They're going to have kids.
But guys who are like top tier, I'm telling you like dudes who are high status are not going to be like, yeah, I want to check who does porn on the internet.
Nope.
lauren southern
OK, OK, but here's the question for you.
Do you think that girls are like, oh, yeah, I want a guy who's subscribing to women on OnlyFans?
tim pool
Of course not.
phil labonte
No.
lauren southern
It goes both ways.
tim pool
Yes, but here's my point.
phil labonte
Women only want, like, there's a very narrow group of guys that all women compete for.
You've seen the bell curve thing and stuff.
lauren southern
But not all women are getting that.
They may be psychologically competing for that.
tim pool
It means that the women who do this have removed themselves from the running from the highest tier guys.
So that means you're going to get only the more traditional women and the high quality guys, and they're going to have lots of babies because conservatives have more kids.
So there's a higher likelihood that this will result in a pressure.
Same point I made with Blackjack.
It may not even be noticeable to the naked eye or to the human mind, but over a long enough period of time, these women who are like, I don't want to work, I'm going to do porn.
They're going to bump into a guy who's a successful business owner and he's going to be like, you know, it was really nice meeting you.
Have a nice day.
lauren southern
I think there is a bit of a double standard here.
unidentified
You pointed this out the other day actually.
lauren southern
So like you said, you were talking about wealth and how you were saying when women ask for wealthy men and men complain.
It's like comparable to when- Fat chicks are like, you should like me if I'm fat.
Yeah, you should like me if I'm fat, right?
And there's like this, this thing where people don't realize, okay, men are like kind of laughing at women who join OnlyFans and they're going to have their lives destroyed.
And a lot of these women are taking themselves out of the race for the highest quality men.
But then what pocket of men does that put them into?
That puts them into dating the majority of men.
So the more women that go into OnlyFans, the more women that are going into like the kind of, Things that are less traditional family-oriented, that's bad for men as well.
tim pool
They're not going to.
So, like Phil pointed out, the data shows that all women are trying to get the top 20% of men.
And so they often will be like, ew, no.
lauren southern
But that's not realistically happening, right?
unidentified
No, it is.
tim pool
It absolutely is happening.
Have you seen the data on virginity?
unidentified
No, I mean when it comes to getting married and actually partnering.
lauren southern
When I'm talking about getting married and actually partnering and having a life with someone.
Like when we're talking about pairing, we were just talking before this about a sort of mating.
tim pool
I'm saying over a long enough period of time, if the margin is 0.5%, it benefits higher status men and more chest women.
I guess that's how you could describe it.
lauren southern
Yeah, of course, the people who are behaving the best are going to find the best partners.
tim pool
And this is another component of it.
lauren southern
Of course.
tim pool
Natural selection occurs.
lauren southern
I just, you know, like when I see men that are like, oh, yeah, I want to get the new sex doll.
I want to subscribe to OnlyFans.
I don't need women anymore.
You know, there is a temptation to cheer and be like, oh, those men have taken themselves out of the running right there.
Well, you know, women didn't want you anyways, if you have to do that.
Women aren't attracted to porn addicts.
But the reality is, the more men get addicted to porn and the more women start making porn, that's just more hurt and broken people.
tim pool
Yes, that's true, but that's just the oligarchification, as it were, of the sexual marketplace.
That you're going to, you know, you have this trapezoid-like shape where you have all the bad people, you know, all the unattractive, because of mental status or physical beauty.
And then above that, you have the more attractive, higher status people.
But over time, it's starting to become a very narrow tower where very few people will be desirable.
Everybody wants physical contact.
Even the weird-pointed people.
People are social creatures.
You're going to have- look, I know some women who've done this, and it destroyed their lives.
And it's not an understatement.
And I was like, you're a fucking idiot.
And I don't talk to them anymore.
lauren southern
It's like, and there's one chick- You mean like, joined OnlyFans?
tim pool
This was before OnlyFans.
They'd be like, I think I'm gonna do cam stuff, because I need to make money, and like, I'm only making 12 bucks an hour at Starbucks, and I was like, yeah, you'll destroy your life.
And they were like, I'm gonna try it.
And then they destroyed their lives, lost a bunch of friends, got ridiculed horrendously, got dumped, and I'm just like, what did you think was gonna happen when you became this thing on the internet and made no money doing it?
And they were fucking losing it.
And I'm like, I think you're a bad person.
lauren southern
Well, it's the easy way and I think a lot of people are saying, you know, the world is a mess.
No one seems to have morals anymore.
Why am I working this nine-to-five when I could just take the easy way out and get money?
But you're right, there is spiritual consequences and there's consequences to relationships.
Like you can't, you just can't, you have to preserve something for your partner.
tim pool
I think women want to be wives.
I don't think every single woman does because it's just too absolute.
But when I look, I'm watching, uh, we're talking about female comedians.
I fucking hate female comedians.
Sorry!
Sorry, that's sexism right there.
There's a handful of really good ones.
We were talking about this the other day.
Like, Nikki Glaser's really funny.
I was watching, so I'm on Instagram.
And I follow Ryan Long and Danny Palaszczuk and I see a lot of stand-up comedy.
And every so often I'll get a female comedian.
Always the same fucking joke.
Every single fucking time.
So, like, I'm with my boyfriend, right?
And I'm, like, going to meet his parents, and my pussy is... So I'm like, what the fuck are you doing?
It's all just weird pussy jokes.
And I'm... There was one... The reason I think Nikki Glaser is funny is because I feel like she does comedy as a woman.
Whereas all these female comedians are trying to emulate men with dick and fart jokes.
phil labonte
That's very true.
That's a phenomenon of feminism that is a horrible thing.
Feminism has told women that all the men in the world are either their dad or the president and they forget about the fact that there are millions and millions of men who are not you know, living the life and they think that they want to
be men.
Like, I want to be the CEO, I want to be the president, and it's, that is not, that is not what most
women want. That's not what's fulfilling to most women. This is true, but there's
lauren southern
also a bit of a catch-22 here, and, um, like, women, we don't live in an age where women
can just live at home forever.
If they're even allowed to live with their parents, most people are getting kicked out at like 18, right?
You have to get a job.
You can't just sit around and wait for a man to pick you up off the street, right?
So women do have to pursue careers for a bit.
And then there's a sort of mating.
Educated people are more likely to date and be with educated people.
Career people are more likely to date and be with career people.
So if a woman wants a good man, One of the best things she can do is actually go and get an education and a career.
tim pool
So here's my point, though, to go back.
I want to make a point on what I was saying.
The reason why I brought up female comedians and their style of comedy is that often you'll see that a lot of what they're talking about is men, men, men.
These feminists and these LGBT people are so mad about the Bechdel test.
Do you guys know what the Bechdel test is for those that aren't familiar?
lauren southern
No.
tim pool
It's a movie passes the Bechdel test when there are two women talking to each other about anything as long as it's not a man.
unidentified
It's really stupid.
tim pool
And so what happens is, in almost every movie, women are talking about men and men are talking about things.
The problem is, that fits standard human social dynamics.
Men are object oriented, women are subject oriented.
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tim pool
What they're focused on, and success to women, has a tendency towards successful social development.
And for men, it's successful objective development.
Meaning, guys... Here's another example.
Holy shit.
Watch a skate video filmed by a dude, and what is it?
A guy doing a trick.
Watch a skate video filmed by a chick, and it's her face in front of the camera with the guy behind her, and she's like, oh!
And you're like, get your fucking face out of the camera, dude!
But because to her, she should be seen.
And this is the meme of women taking pictures of objects and putting their faces in it.
My point is this.
I'm a guy, so I'm gonna go, eh, get the fuck out of here!
But women care more about people.
And you can argue that's a better thing for humanity.
Guys care about killing a bear and then saying they did it.
Women care about building a relationship with other people, be it friends, family, or otherwise.
So what I see now, with all these women doing OnlyFans and working, what I think, with the OnlyFans stuff, It shows.
Women would rather have social interaction for money than collating papers and filing TPS reports.
phil labonte
Sure.
lauren southern
I think they might.
OK, so this is an interesting phenomenon, too, though, is that women doing OnlyFans tend to hire other women to do their social interactions for them.
And I think it's because they may underestimate how much it's like butter being spread over too much bread when you go in and it's like you're actually exhausting your capacity for social interaction.
tim pool
Oh, how fucked up is it?
I want people to understand what it means to be on OnlyFans.
This woman, she's probably going on OnlyFans, she probably has 300 messages, and she's probably copy and pasting, oh, I'm so wet for you, oh, I'm so wet for you, oh, I'm so wet for you, over and over and over again.
lauren southern
All these guys- What does that do to your soul?
That's like, that's doing stuff to your head.
unidentified
If people think the content they're seeing, that they're sharing, that they're- There was one woman, she was like, I'm gonna make a million dollars this year.
tim pool
She's like, she has a team of seven women who are working for her, running her socials.
That's right.
I love, my favorite is Andrew Tate.
Apparently he was sexting guys.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Something like, oh bro, my pussy's so wet.
Apparently that's what he was doing.
Welcome to the modern era.
For all you know, that hot chick you're talking to was Andrew Tate the whole time.
ian crossland
Before we go any deeper, you guys want some meat?
And I'm not joking.
phil labonte
Well, that was fucking terrible.
ian crossland
I want to talk more about these gender dynamics.
Totally unrelated.
Do you want some meat?
You want one of these?
They're really good.
lauren southern
Actually, I kind of do.
ian crossland
I just had one, so I want to spread the love.
tim pool
Bro, I'm willing to bet that almost all OnlyFans that are making tons of money are just guys.
unidentified
Yeah.
Legit.
lauren southern
And it's that they're getting their girlfriends to do it.
tim pool
Because the girls are like, listen, What would you rather do?
Would you rather run the business, or would you rather take photos and then leave?
Take a few pictures, spend 20 minutes getting pictures taken, and then go shopping.
I don't know that these women even want to run the business and the financials of doing OnlyFans.
They'd rather have a guy do it.
Effectively, a pimp.
That's just it, man.
ian crossland
I asked this girl, this is a bit of a, it's just gender dynamic conversation.
I mean, this OnlyFans shit is tragic.
And it's just, it's like, it's like cocaine.
It's like addictive drug.
The money is like an addictive drug.
I dated a girl that became a stripper and hated her life, but made so much fucking money.
It was hard for her to quit.
But I asked this girl when it comes to like people over things.
This is a total tangent, kind of a sub-segue.
Would you rather be 38 and single with a child or 38 and married with no child?
And she said single with a child.
So maybe the woman's real, and this is just hers, anecdotal, but maybe it's not to be married, it's more to have kids.
tim pool
Probably.
lauren southern
I think that's true.
tim pool
Women want to have babies.
lauren southern
Kids are the joy of life.
ian crossland
Has your life completely changed?
lauren southern
Completely changed.
I love it.
I love being a mom.
It's the best thing in the world.
Like, I couldn't imagine it any other way.
I couldn't.
tim pool
This is why women don't like periods.
Because that means you're not pregnant.
Women just want to be pregnant nonstop, 24-7.
It's all they care about.
lauren southern
Don't know about that!
ian crossland
In the Jewish faith, it's every Saturday was Shabbat.
Part of Shabbat is have sex unprotected every Saturday and get pregnant every chance you can.
And when she gives birth, you have sex again on Saturday and get her pregnant again.
Then next, as soon as it's out, next Saturday, it never ends.
It's constant.
And that was probably like part of the faith to like grow the culture in the back in the day, but that's baked into the culture.
phil labonte
I just learned that. I mean, when you're when you're dealing with things that are traditional
like that a lot of times up until the past hundred or so years, you know, if you had
five kids, there was a chance that two or three of them would die.
So part of the reason why religions were, were very, very much like go forth and multiply and have kids and blah, blah, blah, is because of the fact that that was how you kept your society from running from, from dying off because on a biological level too.
unidentified
I mean, that's why sex feels great.
phil labonte
Yeah, well, I mean, yeah, the point is the whole impulse is to make more, you know?
unidentified
Oh, it's an impulse, alright.
ian crossland
And, like, the dude's genetic thing is go kill the bear, bring it back to the woman so that she can feed the bear to the kids while you're out killing another bear.
tim pool
See, that's right.
unidentified
If you want to, you know, if you want to make a pussy wet, you go kill a bear.
ian crossland
Or get a bunch of money so that she doesn't have to fucking shove her body in front of a bunch of dudes to get the money.
Like, you should be bringing the money back so that she can feed the kids while you're out getting the money.
tim pool
But the society's... This is what all sporting events are.
It's a bunch of dudes getting all sweaty and gristly and are glistening and in the sunlight and boxing and beating the shit out of each other.
And then one guy stands up and goes, I win!
And then other women are like, I want that guy.
unidentified
Well, it's mostly men who watch that stuff too, right?
tim pool
Well, yeah, but like the women care about the social interactions between each other.
The men care about the object orient of it.
The guys want the numbers and the stats and the women want the best guy because you know what I think?
I think a strong component of it is women don't care so much about their guy, they care about what other men think about their guy.
The test of the man is whether or not the other men also crave and want the man, which is why they say wearing a wedding ring makes you get hit on.
unidentified
Yeah, it's true.
It's absolutely true.
I've never said it myself, but there's a word for it, that the Red Pill guys have a word for that.
ian crossland
You're talking about covetousness?
unidentified
The Red Pill guys have a word for what you just described, I forget what it is, but yeah, I think it's true.
ian crossland
Oh, like high value?
High value male?
lauren southern
Here's the thing though, I think only women with psychological disorders, which unfortunately makes up for most of the world, are looking at guys with rings and thinking, I want him.
Like in the film I'm doing, Empty Love for Tenet, we open it with a guy who says he wears a ring to the bar every day because that's how he gets women.
They're like super into it.
But do you think any woman who is actually mentally healthy and going to be like a good wife and mother is going to be into that?
tim pool
Or at a bar?
Are you trying to pick up chicks at a bar?
lauren southern
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
tim pool
No, you're supposed to go to a laundromat.
You're supposed to go to church.
lauren southern
Actually, let me, I have a question for you guys, though.
All the men in the show, have you ever, and John, you don't count because you're like childhood sweethearts, but have any of you guys ever dated a woman that didn't have a job?
Like proper never had a career?
phil labonte
When I was young?
tim pool
Well, I mean, when I'm a teenager?
lauren southern
Okay, so in your adult life, you haven't really dated women that haven't had careers and you probably won't be interested in that.
I think you guys probably want intelligent women that you can have conversations with.
tim pool
Of course.
ian crossland
Yeah, I want to share my career with my wife.
tim pool
My girlfriend basically runs this company.
lauren southern
Yeah, she's very smart.
tim pool
Yeah, she's like, she's like, dude, she's like all all all I just sit here and complain about Democrats all day and then she makes it makes me she makes the match.
lauren southern
I think that the communication about women is, there's a broken communication, because the way a lot of red pillars talk about it, it sounds like the best you can do is find a woman who's basically like retarded, bonker in the head.
unidentified
Most red pillars are idiots though.
It's retarded.
I mean, is it something I can say?
ian crossland
It'll all be clipped anyway, but you can say it and not get kicked off this network at this moment.
unidentified
Cool.
Yeah, so it is retarded.
phil labonte
Yeah.
unidentified
And, uh, I mean, like I, you know, to me, you know, if I had to share my life with somebody who was basically stupid, um, I mean, I don't know.
I don't think I like that idea.
phil labonte
I mean, look, I was married for a while and I was married to a woman that had a great career.
And it was, you know, it was fine and everything.
But I don't know that it's a good idea to use that as a metric as to whether or not that is an indicator of that of it's going to be a successful relationship.
unidentified
Right.
lauren southern
Well, so this is what I find interesting, too, because there's all of this data that is really strong, all corroborated, like you can go look at it yourself.
That shows The more educated and the older people marry, the more likely their marriage is to be successful by significant rates.
So whenever people are like, you got to find that 19 year old without a job, it's like actually you are advocating for families to fall apart actively.
ian crossland
I want a woman with ambition, but I don't like the idea of her going off and doing some job far away where I'm not around.
I don't like that.
I want it to be there together.
Yeah.
unidentified
It's a nightmare.
Like it has to be a team effort, you know?
So my wife is now a stay at home mother.
I work from home, so I'm at home too.
But we're on the same page.
As far as mission goes.
And I mean, we have no problems.
Like, we have no marriage problems.
We also sort of grew up together, you know, in a way.
Like, we started dating when she was 16, I was 15.
Lauren's right, you guys don't count your kids.
Yeah, exactly.
ian crossland
No, it's true, too.
unidentified
Like, I see this stuff, I'm like, holy smokes, I'm so happy I don't have to be in, like, the dating market.
It would be a disaster, you know, but... It's a disaster.
Yeah.
Well, I think... You gotta be on the same page.
tim pool
I think true successful relationships don't necessarily require but are greatly advantaged by being childhood sweethearts.
lauren southern
I also think you both have to have your own money.
I am in a position where I know a lot of women who are very unhappy in their marriages and they tend to have come from the trad circles and I know them all personally and obviously I'll never name names but the only reason their marriage has continued is because
they have no way out.
And it is a constant misery situation for them.
unidentified
It's true.
lauren southern
And if you're not actively choosing to be with the person every day,
if you're not actively choosing, I love this person and I'm staying here of my own volition,
that is not a real relationship.
phil labonte
Yep. Yeah.
tim pool
Well, here's the issue.
Back in the day, most people were childhood sweethearts to a certain degree.
They grew up in the same communities, they knew each other, they went to church together, and then eventually one guy would be like, aw, shucks, can I ask your dad to let me marry you, or whatever the rules were, and the dad would be like, here's the dowry, now you get my daughter's money, or whatever.
And, uh, but they knew each other their whole lives.
lauren southern
Yes.
tim pool
Now we live in this weird crackpot reality where it's like you met someone for three months at a bar when you were 20, and you're like, let's get married!
And then it turns out she's got these crazy beliefs about ghost aliens and crazy crackpot bullshit, and she thinks that tree bark is the cure for the common cold, and you're like, this lady's nuts, what the fuck?
I knew, I knew, I knew this, uh, I dated this one chick a long, long time ago.
Maybe I shouldn't say too much because I don't want to be mean, but like, I'm just going to say this.
When you tell me you can read the minds of animals abruptly, I'm just like, it was very nice spending time with you.
I'm going to leave now.
phil labonte
I mean, like, like I said, I mean, I was married and there, there is a certain amount of, you know, you can, you want to, to talk to each other and be on the same page and stuff, but there's only so much that you're going to get out of talking because I honestly, I'm not sure that I believe people I'm not sure that people really know what they want and can tell you the truth.
They might not think they're lying right now, but circumstances will change and all the shit that they said they want, they don't want anymore.
tim pool
Let me ask something.
You're from South Africa, right?
Where'd you grow up?
unidentified
Born in South Africa.
I grew up in Belgium and Canada.
tim pool
Phil, where'd you grow up?
unidentified
I don't fit into Canada.
tim pool
Massachusetts.
Yep.
Okay.
So, uh, do you guys know the feeling you get when you get a nice, heavy snow, maybe like 12 inches, the lights are dim, maybe Christmas, Christmas lights are on the tree and you're sitting down looking out the window.
It's very quiet and you've got like a hot cocoa.
You know that feeling?
The best.
Exactly.
Yes.
Not everybody understands that feeling is if they grew up in California and you, there's no word for that feeling.
lauren southern
Yeah, that's totally it.
tim pool
But, if you grew up in a similar place, in a similar environment, with similar values, when you say, I love that feeling, and you're with someone who knows that thing too, you're both sitting there being like, wow, this is the most beautiful moment.
So me and my girlfriend, Christmas is fucking epic.
I remember those Christmas nights, the sun's coming down, the sun's almost gone, the snow is coming down, it is quiet, you can hear a mouse squeak, and there's candles, it's dimly lit, you sit on the couch, you have hot cocoa, and it is, Heroin!
It is pure!
unidentified
If there's one thing that would make me move back to Canada, it's that.
lauren southern
Yeah.
unidentified
I know the word.
tim pool
But imagine being from Florida.
You don't know that feeling.
And I'm not saying, you have your own feeling.
I don't know what that is.
ian crossland
I know the word for that.
It's called shitty.
That environment fucking sucks unless you have heating.
I mean, we're very luxurious to live in fucking cold.
But I know what you guys, I grew up in it.
unidentified
Why would you think that you wouldn't be in a heated area?
ian crossland
Because I lived so much in Ohio where it was just frigid cold.
unidentified
I don't want to shit on your dream here.
lauren southern
Ian, you are not cozy-pilled and you need to leave.
ian crossland
But you can still get that cool dripping sweat where you're like, oh it's 90 but I'm 78.
tim pool
This is Ian intentionally trying to shit on this because no one is talking about what he's saying.
No one's talking about being trapped in the cold and dying and freezing.
We're talking about a shared experience.
A shared experience that no one ever said to you.
When I was growing up, no one ever went to me and said, hey, remember last winter when the snow was coming down, it was really quiet and the lights were very dim and you sat down there with a cup of hot cocoa?
Maybe a movie was on with your family, you played a board game or something.
You know that feeling you get?
No one ever brought that up.
Now, I'm in my late 30s and I say this and people go, I know exactly what you're talking about.
ian crossland
You're making me nostalgic for Christmas.
tim pool
It needs a word, but my point is this.
Every Christmas, me and my girlfriend, mostly my girlfriend, we'll put up the Christmas lights, dim the lights, and then we'll sit there, and like the snow is coming down, and we're like, this is the greatest fucking thing ever.
unidentified
There's something about being able to share silence together.
phil labonte
The song, A Song for a Winter's Night by Sarah McLachlan is the soundtrack to exactly what you're talking about.
tim pool
But what I mean to say is, if I was with someone who grew up in SoCal, Texas, Florida, Arizona, New Mexico, and then they were here in West Virginia, and that snow came down, and I was like, come on, let's dim the lights, and they'd be like, I don't know what you mean.
Like, can we go out and do something?
Like, man, the snow sucks.
I have thin skin.
It's not so much that it's absolute, they would always be that way.
They might love you and be like, okay, let's try this.
I'm just saying that me and my girlfriend grew up in the same place.
We've known each other for a very, very long time.
We have similar worldviews because the region we grew up had similar political views.
unidentified
It gets imprinted in childhood.
tim pool
We know about Portillo's hot dogs.
We know about Giordano's.
So it's like, the things that I like, she's very likely to know about and like too.
And so it's very easy to be aligned.
unidentified
Yep.
ian crossland
Drugs, unfortunately, bring people... Oh, sorry, go ahead.
Drugs can bring people close together like that, which kind of sucks.
tim pool
That's true.
unidentified
Because that's the problem.
ian crossland
And then they become like, my weed-smoking girl.
lauren southern
And then when the weed's not there, all of a sudden, Or they'll do, like, Molly together one night and be like, we need to be together forever.
unidentified
Yeah.
And then when they're not on that, it's like, this is a disaster.
tim pool
And then there's birth control.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Let's bring in callers now before we have another can of worms.
What do we got?
unidentified
It's like the best callers on earth.
serge du preez
Yeah, let's hear what JWKS say.
You were with us.
How are you?
tim pool
I'm good.
unidentified
Hello, everyone.
Long time member thought tonight would be a good time to call in.
serge du preez
Hell yeah.
What's good?
unidentified
Uh, well, with a mind toward helping build the anti-time square, I'm looking at moving to Martinsburg to open a gun and custom machine shop around firearms.
I wonder what advice you all would have for someone willing to move 1,300 miles.
phil labonte
Where are you moving from?
unidentified
Oklahoma.
phil labonte
Nice.
serge du preez
Nice.
Well, uh, yeah.
Dress warm.
lauren southern
Hell yeah, brother.
serge du preez
Yeah, hell yeah.
ian crossland
Were you asking for advice?
tim pool
It would be the coolest thing in the world if everyone just moved to Martinsburg, West Virginia, and we took it over.
serge du preez
Yeah, I like it.
Just take over Berkley County.
tim pool
We got a bunch of gags planned for Castle 2.
We're gonna start filming more in Martinsburg.
And we're gonna create a fictional Martinsburg, West Virginia.
Where we do skits and bits.
ian crossland
Were you asking for advice about how to do it?
unidentified
Yeah, like the town.
I've been looking up online and stuff, but I've never been to that particular area, so just looking to see how the area is.
phil labonte
Town's great.
My apartment complex has vacancies.
tim pool
Are you downtown or no?
phil labonte
No, I'm not downtown.
I'm by the Walmart and by the food places.
ian crossland
Do they do month-to-month?
phil labonte
Rent month-to-month?
Well, no, it's a lease.
ian crossland
Renting month-to-month would be good if you're going to buy a place.
I mean, obviously, that'd be pretty cool.
serge du preez
Yeah, there's a lot of new houses out here as well.
You could put down a lease pretty easily.
Depends on how long term you're looking.
I'm assuming you're looking relatively long term.
So, there's a lot of stuff out here you can lease as well.
Pretty new places, older places.
ian crossland
You looking to buy right away?
unidentified
Not necessarily by, but definitely at some point.
serge du preez
Yeah.
ian crossland
It's so nice here, dude.
Even the winters are really nice here.
lauren southern
Yeah, let's try it.
Also, I feel like I need to specify right now.
I was looking at comments.
Everyone thinks I'm an alcoholic.
I don't drink outside of this show.
unidentified
Me neither, man.
lauren southern
Right?
ian crossland
Hardly at all.
I was like tipsy after that.
phil labonte
Sure you don't.
lauren southern
I literally don't drink when I'm not on social media.
ian crossland
That's so funny.
tim pool
So Martinsburg has some troubles.
I think it's like, going through what many towns are going through, right?
serge du preez
Yep.
tim pool
There's concern about, yeah, right?
There's concern about crime and drugs and stuff like that.
But we're turning things around, baby.
Everybody knows our plans.
The first priority is protect the generational businesses that exist, and the traditional generational families.
We don't want to come in and Change.
You know, take things away from the people who are already there.
But what we're hearing from locals is that woke people are starting to move in.
Why?
Property is, uh, it's easier to live there.
So if you're from, like, Frederick, Maryland, for instance, it's expensive.
So what happens is, young people leaving Frederick will go to Martinsburg.
50-mile drive, half-cost rent, and it's turning woke.
And now generational business and families are getting freaked out.
So we're like, nah, we're gonna start building up there.
We're gonna tell them to go somewhere else.
ian crossland
Is Martinsburg the best city in the area?
tim pool
I mean, Charlestown's better in some ways.
serge du preez
Charlestown all day.
tim pool
Yeah, Jefferson County banned child drag shows, and Berkeley County, where Martinsburg is, did not.
serge du preez
Yeah, which is cool.
tim pool
And here's the thing.
Here's the reality of being, uh, uh, um, what's the right word?
An up-and-coming media mogul, as it were.
Politicians in West Virginia are like, yo, this dude's building a massive multi-million dollar company and he wants to bring it to West Virginia.
He wants to hire people.
He's already got people moving to the area.
He's trying to revitalize and invest and build.
We need this.
It's better for everybody.
So when I say things like, we don't want to invest in this area because y'all have drag queens bringing children on stage, they're like, we don't like that either and we're going to make it stop.
And I'm like, well, you know, I don't want to tell you what to do, but you should.
You should not let that happen.
Jefferson County did.
They said they passed an ordinance.
We will no longer allow this.
This is insane that they were doing in the first place.
And that's Charlestown.
serge du preez
Charlestown.
tim pool
Yeah.
So Charlestown's great.
unidentified
Awesome.
tim pool
And, um, Part of me would rather be in Charlestown, but it's a bit more difficult.
I mean, Charlestown is harder, it's nicer.
We were looking at a building a while ago that was like three stories, an old railway stop, very expensive.
But the best thing about Charlestown is they got the casino, baby!
ian crossland
Oh yeah, that place is awesome, man.
That's where we just were?
Last week?
I love that place, man.
tim pool
Yeah, we do dinner at the steakhouse, and all the dealers know me in the poker room because I tip all the people who run the poker room.
I'll tell you guys a story.
unidentified
They do a... Sorry, this is a game changer.
lauren southern
What the hell is this?
tim pool
South African style drinking.
lauren southern
This is the best shit I've eaten in my entire life.
Excuse my language.
unidentified
This is delicious.
tim pool
So we had a... They were doing... They do this promotion at the poker room called... It's a high-end promotion.
It's called... What is it called?
All Decked Out.
And if you get a high hand, meaning aces, a full house with aces or better, And it holds for an hour.
You get to draw a card from one of those, like, spinny lottery things.
I pulled the Ace of Spades.
I won $2,500.
And I handed it right to the dealer.
And the whole fucking room went nuts.
They were screaming.
ian crossland
I love that shit.
tim pool
And so like, I love, I love, it's local, it's small, but I so much care more about the small town and the magic and knowing people.
Big City sucks.
It's just, it's too impersonal.
It smells like sour milk.
lauren southern
People don't remember you, you don't walk into places and like make relationships and it's so nice when someone knows your name and even just that little interaction.
tim pool
But when I saw that Martinsburg was struggling, there's two things there.
Property's cheaper.
It's super cool.
The downtown area is really, really nice.
There is good food there, but businesses are falling apart.
Local diner closed, I guess.
And so I'm like, yeah, we gotta buy that and make it Cousin T's or something.
So there's a great opportunity to do this, both in the lower cost and the need that local people want.
So we wanna open a whole bunch of businesses.
Maybe we'll do like, Maybe we'll do, what can we do?
Like Phil LaBonte's gym, maybe?
Yeah.
lauren southern
There we go.
That's cool.
phil labonte
I like that.
tim pool
Something like that, you know?
And then what we'll do is this will be the template for a bunch of brick and mortar shops based on, you know, individuals and their brands.
And if they succeed, we open chains all around the country.
unidentified
Awesome.
tim pool
But anyway, was that sufficient?
Good, sir.
unidentified
Most definitely.
Thank you so much.
serge du preez
Of course.
ian crossland
Hell yeah, man.
serge du preez
We look forward to having you on here.
lauren southern
Can't wait to open Southern Syrup there.
tim pool
Oh, you should make Lauren Southern's maple syrup to be served at Cousin T's diner.
lauren southern
There we go.
tim pool
Well, he does have his own maple syrup, though.
phil labonte
There is snow around here.
serge du preez
There is.
Hopefully, the more the serious.
tim pool
You should try one of these with some of that beef.
lauren southern
This is burning my mouth, but it's so good.
ian crossland
Yeah, there's other ones that aren't.
tim pool
This is a dark chocolate almond, and you eat it with the beef.
unidentified
Okay.
This one's just, like, unseasoned.
Yeah, you should try that one.
It's a little different.
So you know what the, uh... Yeah, but that one's got... The spice is actually so impressive.
tim pool
Have you tried that one?
ian crossland
I prefer the naked beef one.
unidentified
I haven't tried that particular one, but I mean, is it good?
serge du preez
It's not as good.
You'll try this other one.
This Brooklyn Biltong one.
tim pool
Dark chocolate almonds with beef.
lauren southern
This is changing my life.
tim pool
People are wondering why I'm eating on the members show so often.
serge du preez
Wildfire Whisperer.
How are you?
You're with us.
unidentified
Thanks for having me.
Tim, Lauren, John, congratulations on the doc.
I watched it this afternoon.
Thank you.
I'm a filmmaker myself, so I know what a big challenge that is.
And I know you guys are killing it with your production company, but Ian, I know you love white pills, and I also have a big fucking white pill for you guys.
If you pull up hotshopmovie.com, you can see the flick that we made and what I'm talking about.
Tim, you inspired me to actually move my production company out of L.A.
to Nashville.
serge du preez
Nice, man.
unidentified
And I've never been happier, so thank you.
When I was still in California, I just made a bullshit press pass, and I used it to just walk into every wildfire in California for six years.
And I made this doc.
We took it to HBO, and they didn't want it because I'm a white male.
Sorry, fuck them.
Went to Netflix.
serge du preez
That's your first mistake.
unidentified
We got all the way to the top.
They told me to recut it and make it about climate change.
Wow.
serge du preez
Of course.
Of course it is.
unidentified
So then we even got into the Daily Wire after we reached out to Dallas when he was on your show.
And he got back to us.
He was rad.
But ultimately they rejected it because it has some like salty language and you know how buttoned up they are over there.
tim pool
Salty language like what?
unidentified
Well, if you see the film, hotshots are like Navy SEALs of wildland fire, and so they say... My dad's a wildland firefighter, or he was for a while.
Dude, so then you know the entire environment, man.
They're animals.
And, you know, it's just a little too spicy for The Daily Wire.
So, we just put it out on Wick's template website, launched it ourselves, and we're already profitable.
We even got a big spread in your hometown paper, Tim, The Chicago Tribune.
And we got it on Amazon and Apple, but my question is actually for John.
Because I remember back when you did Hoaxed, you guys had a great click on your hands.
I'm curious if you guys ran into the same kind of woke bullshit with these gatekeepers that we did?
And like, did you have people telling you to change it?
How did you guys plow through that and do such a great job of getting it to blow up outside the gatekeepers?
Because man, is it a challenge.
First of all, I've got a big piece of biltong in my mouth, so excuse me for having food in my mouth while I answer.
answer. No, so with Hoaxed, you know, in 2019 we actually, in 2019 was a self-release on
Vimeo for Hoaxed. Later that year we signed up with a distributor, Random Media, and they
put it out on like Amazon Prime and stuff.
The only place we got banned from was Amazon Prime.
It started doing really well on there.
They banned it, we think most likely because we actually do talk a little bit of smack about Amazon on Hoaxed.
But, you know, we did not try and get it to, like, HBO or, you know, like a Netflix or anything like that.
So we didn't have to deal with anything like that.
So we didn't have to cut anything because of woke demands or anything like that.
It was completely independent.
Yeah, we had to pay an aggregator to get it up, but I'm curious, like, with your latest doc, what would you say the biggest challenges you guys had since, like, I mean, this is totally independent.
lauren southern
Us both being ADHD, literally, our mental problems.
No, it's mostly the social components, like reaching out to people, getting them involved, having like cohesive visions for the path forward.
unidentified
Yeah, okay, so the main challenge with these sort of things, and we ran into this when, you know, when we did Host as well with Cernovich.
It's getting people from the other side to sit down for an interview.
They just don't want to do it.
That's why in this doc, too, we just said right from the get-go, this is a doc where we talk to pro-gun advocates, because the mainstream media, you usually get the anti-gun angle anyway, so this doc's gonna be, it's gonna be a pro-gun thing.
lauren southern
I mean, we included their angle in it, but we were mostly kind of debunking.
We did interview a professor that did give the kind of, the other side, but It wasn't that strong that it would have added anything significantly debunking the rest of the doc, so it didn't feel... Yeah, he was kind of more in the middle with things, too.
unidentified
Like himself, he was a member of the Brady campaign on the left, but he was also a member of the NRA.
lauren southern
He was also an NRA member, yeah.
He was an interesting guy, actually.
I kind of want to release that interview anyways at some point.
phil labonte
Would you guys do, like, supplemental stuff?
Like, would you release the, you know, cutting room floor clips and stuff like that?
lauren southern
Yeah, I mean, I was gonna maybe do some of it for my Subscribestar, but Tim, if you wanted some of the longer interviews for your guys, like, yeah, we've got the footage.
tim pool
We could add it as supplemental.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
lauren southern
Yeah.
ian crossland
Definitely subscribe, star two a little bit.
unidentified
Feed them.
It's always sad, you know, when you do these long interviews and you only use like maybe five minutes in the film and you have to because otherwise you'll have a six hour film.
But yeah, so much gets left on the cutting room floor that it's kind of a shame.
So it's nice to do something like that, for sure.
tim pool
Six hour film, so we do six one hour episodes.
unidentified
Yeah.
serge du preez
Anything else to add?
ian crossland
Well, I got a question for you, dude.
Wildfires.
Did you shoot this yourself?
unidentified
I shot the entire thing myself.
It was just me with a press pass.
And I just walked into the fires and just filmed it for like six years.
And I don't know how I'm still alive, actually.
ian crossland
You got great instincts, man.
Some of these shots are fucking incredible.
This is just looking at the hotshotshotshotmovie.com.
Especially these things from underneath the helicopters.
Geez.
serge du preez
Yeah, I have a lot of my friends in Idaho, where I grew up for some years, are also wildlife firefighters like this.
So it's cool that someone's done a film about them and about their job.
unidentified
Looks great, man.
What did you shoot it on?
I shot it on Reds, a Helium, and a Gemini, and a Komodo.
tim pool
Oh yeah, you can tell, it's just so good.
serge du preez
Cinematic look, it's nice.
unidentified
Awesome, man.
ian crossland
I'd love to pump this through TimCast.com and like cut 10% of the sales to TimCast.
I want to do something like that, so like turn it into another Amazon kind of thing.
tim pool
Yeah, like what's your deal?
You're selling it on your website, is that what you're doing?
unidentified
Well, we posted it on our website just because we didn't want to wait for Amazon to get it up.
And, you know, there's a big issue with Congress with the firefighters getting their pay cut, so we just wanted it up and in the public sphere.
But, dude, we actually, we tried to reach out to you at one point, but I know you guys are swamped because you're so successful.
But we were, dude, we were willing to just, hey, slap Tim Kast on the end of it, you guys post it.
Because, dude, I make good money doing what I do.
I just do a lot of commercials and stuff, but I want to get eyeballs on it.
And I value what you guys do so much with building culture.
And this is like the most unwonk independent movie.
And I was very stubborn about not changing it.
Because you guys show us like every day that you can do it.
And Tim, I know you've turned down a lot of offers from other people.
And the fact that you don't do it is so inspiring to us that I would love to collaborate with you guys at some point.
tim pool
Yeah, I mean, depending on what, we could talk, you know, like off show and see what your plan is for the film.
When did you put it out?
unidentified
We put it out two months ago and then it got on Amazon at the October 2nd.
Oh, okay.
tim pool
Well, let's talk after the show and see what we can do.
I mean, whatever, we could shout it out at the very least, but maybe there's something more we can do.
I mean, it looks amazing.
unidentified
Thank you so much.
It'll be great.
You guys rock.
tim pool
Yeah, let's, uh, I don't know the best way to, uh, advance communication because I literally don't do anything.
Like I said, Allison runs the whole company, and my email, I get like 500 emails a day, so I can never read anything, but I don't know, what's the, what's the, do we have any ideas, like, the best way to, uh... Uh, if you reach out to me on, uh, TwixDM.
There you go.
serge du preez
Or Twitter, X or Twitter, Twix, whatever.
unidentified
Twix.
serge du preez
I'll get in touch with you.
unidentified
Surge, I'll do that.
And, uh, Tim, I actually exchanged a few messages with, uh, your booker, Lisa.
tim pool
Oh, okay.
serge du preez
For Culture War, yeah.
unidentified
So she's- I sent her the link a while back, so you- Oh, okay, okay, great.
tim pool
Well, you can message her again, too, and let her know, you know, to- to- to reach out to me, and then- because basically what happens is I'll get an internal message, and then I'll immediately forward it to Allison.
Like, here you go, you're in charge.
I complain about Democrats on the internet, you make the company work.
ian crossland
You bring home the bacon, she cooks it.
tim pool
There you go, exactly.
Well- Or actually, Am I cooking the bacon?
Anyway, we'll figure it out, man.
It looks great.
I'd love to see it.
Maybe there's other stuff we can do.
unidentified
Thank you.
Cool, man.
serge du preez
Cheers, man.
ian crossland
Thanks for calling in.
serge du preez
Alright, Trevor N. Not to be confused with the other Trevors.
How are you?
unidentified
What's up, guys?
How's it going?
Good, man.
serge du preez
That's going well.
Thank you very much.
unidentified
Awesome.
Yeah, this whole Colin thing is pretty cool.
One of my buddies from Idaho is a smokejumper, so I'm definitely going to check out that documentary.
It looks really cool.
serge du preez
Oh, yes.
unidentified
Amen.
Anyways, congrats to Lauren and John on the documentary.
Thank you very much.
I was wondering if you, I know Tim said he was going to put a lot of marketing behind this, and I was wondering if you had any ideas.
I know like with like the sound of freedom and all the other kind of independent stuff,
the word of mouth advertising seemed to be what drove the success of that.
And kind of the even the pay it forward aspect of it.
And I know as of as of right now, you have to be a member to watch it.
And I was just wondering if there was any plans to be able to kind of get it in front
of more eyeballs than just the members.
tim pool
I don't know.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
See that requires like building the infrastructure for the pay it forward stuff.
Perhaps moving forward as we start building things one step at a time.
The general idea right now is we're gonna dump probably, I don't know, six figures in terms of marketing on YouTube and then depending on the result even just go nuts and do a lot more.
The idea should be that anybody who goes on YouTube will know this documentary exists, and we want to make it culturally ubiquitous.
So at the very least, it is beneficial if there is some guy on the left like, I didn't watch that stupid fucking thing, but he knows we made it.
The general idea is, you are the worst pirate I've ever heard of, but you have heard of me.
unidentified
There we go.
tim pool
That's a general idea.
We want people to know we're doing it.
We're here.
It's happening, right?
And then from there, we push forward.
Now, ultimately, though, I think first priority, of course, is the ads will result in people becoming members, which allows us to make more documentaries.
And then they watch the documentary.
So for now, that's what we got going on here.
Yeah, and we're thinking about a lot of other ways we could, you know, do it.
But membership really is the key to everything.
It just is.
So it's like, you could sign up once for ten bucks, watch a documentary, and then cancel right away.
It is what it is.
You could do the same thing for What Is A Woman.
But, uh, we just need to start, you know, doing more stuff that builds more memberships and then makes the company bigger.
Maybe we'll get to the point where we're as big as Daily Wire with a million members.
I think they have like a million or something.
Probably more than that.
It's crazy.
unidentified
Yeah.
Well, hell, you're probably close to that, ain't you?
tim pool
Hell no.
serge du preez
No.
tim pool
Far, far from that.
ian crossland
Far, but it's in the distance.
tim pool
Let me say this.
If someone signs up at $10 a month and they become a member for one year, that's $120.
If 1,000 people sign up at $10 a month, that's $10,000.
That's $120,000 in one year, if they all stay members.
So that can fund the creation of a documentary.
1,000 people signing up from one documentary, it's not that much, as long as they stay members.
So that's the general idea we're aiming at.
And with the ads, it's even better.
If we spend, so right now, we've, the last, when we started the show, it was like 350 bucks got us 55,000 views on an ad.
That means we need 55 people out of that 50- 55,000?
Oh, I'm sorry, 35 people out of the 55,000 that saw the ad need to watch the documentary for us to cover the cost of those ads.
So, if that metric is hit, fuck!
We could put 10 million dollars in advertising.
Because it means we are making more money than the cost of the advertisement, which is the goal, until you reach market saturation and then everyone's already seen the movie, but that would be the ideal.
We'll figure it out.
ian crossland
I'm talking with Philip right now.
The pay it forward thing should be really easy to build.
He's a fucking genius.
tim pool
We actually have an auction thing built that we never use.
We use like two times for tickets, but yeah.
lauren southern
Is the pay it forward like someone pays for a membership and then the next person who logs in gets it?
ian crossland
Well, there's a lot of ways to do it.
You'd go to the video on the site and click donate, pay it forward.
No, I think the way we should- You push X amount of dollars in and then that would unlock X amount of views.
The way we should do it- Maybe first come first serve or you'd email.
tim pool
No, no, right.
The only way we can do it is that if we're going to do a pay it forward system that someone can buy someone else a membership and then that person will be given the opportunity to renew a month later.
Yeah, so someone could pay your initial 10 bucks, be like, hey man, become a member, watch this stuff, I'll sign you up today, you'll get a code, put in your information, your first month is paid for already, and then next month it'll say, hey, would you like to become a member?
And maybe they don't.
lauren southern
Yeah, that's a cool idea.
tim pool
But then it's like, some people who are like, nah, I don't feel like signing up, dude, I'll sign you up, and then just log in with your info, and they'll be like, okay, if 10% of those people are like, yeah, I'll stay as a member, why not?
I'll put in my information.
Some people will be like, meh, but at least we sell more documentaries.
ian crossland
Yeah, that's a good idea.
You buy a monthly subscription that auto-cancels, but they'll get an option to re-up it.
tim pool
I don't know, we could even theoretically get it on Amazon.
If we put it on Amazon, I'd want to sell it for like $15 because, look man, if someone signs up to become a member and then stays a member, that is infinitely more valuable than someone who just bought a documentary one time.
unidentified
Oh yeah.
lauren southern
Amazon would be a good one, actually.
Maybe after you've done the initial membership push.
tim pool
Like a month later or something.
Then we put it on Amazon afterwards.
And we do want to do theatrical runs in the future, but we've got to figure that stuff out.
Maybe we can ask Dinesh.
He could probably give us a lot of advice.
ian crossland
I like the idea that you can pay it forward, pay subscriptions forward.
Would that just go to random people, like the first hundred people that come?
tim pool
We could have codes generate where you can choose to, like YouTube does this, you could be like, I want to buy 10 gift memberships.
serge du preez
Yeah.
tim pool
And then you'll get 10 codes and then you can gift the codes to people.
When people are creating an account, they can put the code in and get them.
We could build that.
I'm sure our tech guy could probably build that.
ian crossland
Yeah.
serge du preez
Yeah.
tim pool
See, I don't know.
ian crossland
He's coming to listen at the chat.
Let's see.
tim pool
That's a great idea because then it's like, People could just be like, I know you don't want to sign up, but here you go, you'll get a free month if you do watch this documentary.
At the very least, you get to watch this for free and they'll be like, oh, okay, cool.
serge du preez
Trevor, anything else to add?
unidentified
No, I think that sounds good.
I do want to shout out everybody in the Discord and everybody that works behind the scenes for TimCast that makes this shit possible because it's pretty cool.
serge du preez
Yeah, thank you.
They appreciate it, I promise.
ian crossland
Yeah, the tech team is amazing.
serge du preez
Uh, anyways, cheers, brother.
ian crossland
Thanks, dude.
unidentified
Yeah, we'll see you guys.
serge du preez
Bye.
Uh, Nasrea.
Uh, let's see if I can read your whole name.
Nasrea the Beanie Collective.
Hello, how are you?
unidentified
Hey, I'm doing good.
Hey, Lauren, I love your work.
I'm a huge fan.
I've been for many years.
In your book, Barbarians, How Baby Boomers, Immigrants, and Islam Screwed My Generation, you discuss several factors affecting us.
Since then, we've seen significant changes in the world.
How do you think these factors have impacted us, such as the continued influence of social media, the shifting demographics, religion, and economic challenges?
lauren southern
Yeah, I mean, if I were to go back and rewrite that book, because I remember I was like 19, 20 when I started that, I would definitely focus more on the age of social media.
I had no idea.
I kind of, I feel like 2015, 2016 when I got into social media, that was when the political kind of rigging, mass censorship, algorithm changes were really going through the roof and I hadn't experienced that when I was growing up.
The internet was still a bit of the Wild West, so that wasn't included in the book.
And then the economic crisis and inflation and lockdown, none of that had happened when I wrote Barbarians.
So I didn't make the connection between the demographic changes and cultural changes between the economic and housing crisis in Canada.
That I probably could have made.
Wow, great question.
It's been a while since I've even read that book, obviously.
It's hard to even refresh some of the writings in it in my mind, but that's really cool.
I appreciate you bringing that up and asking.
It's maybe worthwhile.
I've started a few books and they have focused more on social media and you are reminding me that there are people out there that would buy and read my books and I should probably get down to the grind and finish the writing that I've started.
So I really appreciate that.
And you may single handedly influence me to finish my next book.
unidentified
Yeah, we're huge fans.
So we're excited for your next one that definitely comes out.
lauren southern
Thank you.
Okay, I will work on it just for you.
unidentified
Shut up, John.
lauren southern
Yes, I am.
ian crossland
Have you ever considered using an artificial intelligence to help you write books?
lauren southern
No, because my book would probably be an attack on artificial intelligence.
ian crossland
Cool to get it to attack itself.
lauren southern
Imagine asking Ted Kaczynski, would you ever get AI to write your manifesto?
serge du preez
No, I would not do that.
ian crossland
Steven Marsh did it with his last book, but he said he can't own the copyright because it's an AI, self-generated.
And then he went in and edited it and was like, yeah, interesting concept.
You could plow like eight books out maybe at 10 times the speed.
lauren southern
I was just having a thought you know that that shooter manifesto came out today um or the other day yesterday yeah the day before they just don't make shooter manifestos like they used to you know like they used to make these really long well-thought-out ones and now they're just like little scribbles on a notebook this one tick-tock generation this one may have a bite-sized uh on some information The reports were saying yesterday that it may be much longer than what we got, but we only got a three page... Yeah, yeah, it still didn't look like it was gonna be a Ted Kaczynski, you know.
phil labonte
Yeah, it doesn't seem... I mean, not everybody was Ted.
unidentified
It doesn't seem like a traditional manifesto.
It just kind of, you know, it seemed like a notebook that... The TikTok manifesto.
phil labonte
To be fair, Ted's, like, you know, the Industrial Revolution and its consequences was that, like, that is not...
A typical manifesto.
Most of the time, most of the time, manifestos tend to be rambling.
They have fairly, at least a good portion that to most people does seem kind of insane.
If you sit and you read Ted's manifesto, you're like, it's pretty coherent.
He's the only thing he's wrong about is what the mail's for.
unidentified
Like, that's it.
lauren southern
Is our friend still on the phone here?
Was it Nazarene?
serge du preez
Yes.
unidentified
Yeah.
Also, my husband here wanted to give out a shout out.
lauren southern
Hello, Nazarene's husband.
serge du preez
That's Nazarea.
lauren southern
Nazarea, I'm sorry.
unidentified
You had a question for my wife, though.
What one?
ian crossland
Oh, were you going to ask her a question?
lauren southern
Did I have one?
If I did, I forgot it.
unidentified
I'll just give the shout out real quick.
Shout out to the new Beanie Collective cross-genre, cross-networking crew with TimCast Discord fam musicians only.
It's only people that's in your Discord.
The first video of Rollin' 20s is out on the YouTube.
Really?
It's trippy in clips edited from a place of love and creativity.
Track is produced by Jay Billow.
Chat might know him as Tenor Sheriff.
And vocals by myself, and we're making a bunch of new stuff with a bunch of different people in Discord, different genres, kind of just trying to cross network each other.
serge du preez
Let me know if I can get in somehow, that's sweet.
lauren southern
Very cool.
unidentified
Yeah, we're making music.
serge du preez
Oh, Wicked, I love this already.
unidentified
Yeah, definitely.
You can hit me up in the Discord or... I don't use Discord.
Yeah, you gotta hit me up on uh on twix if you would like to work with me
Like beanie every time civil war was mentioned they start drinking, but i'm just dabbing
Cannabis i'm thinking it's about damn time for graphene analysis mastery of penmanship blessed by the spirit and my
companionship You're with it is that jesus
This is awesome.
He's created in the chat, man.
Beanie Collective.
Every song is like a matrix, downloadable injection, like a vaccine that is actually
protective.
So take a shot.
Syllables mimic rock, forbidden news.
We diffuse, spitting truth at minimal, well, literal.
Globalist marionette puppet sign of major labels, bumble to PSYOP straight to you.
I'm rolling 20s.
Better, better show you something about a Beanie Boy, cuz like a volcano erupting.
lauren southern
Beanie Boy.
unidentified
Who's the Beanie Boy?
Can you send us that beat?
That beat is by Tenor Sheriff.
ian crossland
Tenor Sheriff?
unidentified
Yeah, he's in chat.
He's a Discord member.
All of this music is Discord produced.
The video my wife made.
tim pool
I want to take the underlying beat, the bassline, and then give it to Carter and see if we can put it on the album.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
That'd be amazing.
By March, we should have, like, a full album done.
We might even have 10 songs.
So, you know.
ian crossland
Call it Discord with C-H.
tim pool
We could add this one as a special to it with credits and everything and, you know, work something out.
unidentified
Well, for you and everybody in Discord who wants to make music, email me at nazareneholytent at gmail.com.
ian crossland
Can you spell that out?
serge du preez
Nazarene?
unidentified
Nazarene like the typical Jesus way, not like Nasriah.
serge du preez
N-A-Z-A-R-E-N-E.
unidentified
N-A-Z-A-R-E-N-E, yes.
Nazarene, what is the full... Nazarene Holy Tent.
ian crossland
Holy Tent.
At what was it?
unidentified
Gmail.
ian crossland
At gmail.com.
serge du preez
I will be in touch, my friend.
Some people know this, I make music as well, but I don't talk about it often on the show, but I'll be in touch.
ian crossland
That beat was sick, dude.
unidentified
For sure, and my wife too is gonna get some of her music on there too, so, you know.
We're all already here.
Sir, do you make music too?
serge du preez
Yes, yeah.
unidentified
Wow, how many musicians are on the- around this table?
ian crossland
I think all of us.
unidentified
I think except Lauren.
tim pool
She's the only one.
He's like THE musician.
unidentified
Yeah, well, yeah, he doesn't really count.
serge du preez
He's just like here to put everybody to shame, but... The only failed one.
phil labonte
Yeah.
ian crossland
Yeah, he's the only one that tried so hard.
tim pool
The only failed one.
unidentified
Yeah, man.
tim pool
Right on.
I tweeted out the video.
unidentified
Yeah, and like, holy shit.
I thought my phone was playing that, and I was like, oh no, my phone is playing the video, and then I realized... Damn.
Thank you so much, dude.
Yeah, of course.
phil labonte
Cheers, man.
tim pool
Right on, man.
unidentified
Awesome, man.
tim pool
We'll be in touch.
lauren southern
Did you just tweet that out?
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
Hell yeah.
He just tweeted it.
serge du preez
You got the hug.
phil labonte
You just X'd it.
Alright, cheers, yo.
lauren southern
Thanks for coming in.
unidentified
Alright, cheers yo.
ian crossland
Thanks for calling in.
unidentified
Bye guys.
Thanks.
Love.
tim pool
All right.
Lauren, John, it's been a blast.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Thanks for hanging out.
unidentified
Thanks for having us.
tim pool
We're going to blast out more ads on YouTube tomorrow.
We did one trial ad.
It looks like it's doing pretty well.
We're going to check the metrics and then we're going to go nuts and just crank out more.
We have three different commercials plus an extended clip.
We're going to run those as ads and I want to put them on everything.
I want someone who's like searching for how to make beef bolognese or whatever, just going to get this as a commercial and be like, what's going on?
And we're going to make them watch.
All right, everybody.
Thanks for hanging out.
Thanks for being members.
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