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Nov. 8, 2023 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Timcast IRL - Voting SHUT DOWN After Machine FLIPS VOTES, Gas Leak Shutters Vote w/Lauren Southern
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tim pool
There are many elections happening today.
I hope many of you, I hope you all went out and voted.
And, uh, already we're getting people calling shenanigans.
I don't know how serious any of these stories are, but, uh, sure enough, there's something to talk about.
Votes being flipped in one, uh, one, uh, voting location in, uh, Philadelphia.
People are quite worried about this.
Gas leaks being reported.
Uh, some locations have needed extended times, but they're saying all of this is being taken care of.
Now, I don't think the big story here is necessarily that these individual things happen, but that it's a preview of what's to come in the next year, and just think about what's gonna happen when the stakes are a bit higher than, say, like, the governorship of a single state, when it's the president and when it's Donald Trump.
We also got news on the Trump trial.
Trump tried to read a disclaimer clause in court where it says specifically in his contracts he's not liable for inaccuracies and the judge would not let him do it.
People are now screaming bias because they already had a summary judgment against him saying he did commit fraud.
They don't care that he actually has a document proving he didn't.
Fascinating.
We're gonna talk about that, plus YouTube and Facebook have censored the reporting from Steven Crowder on the Nashville Trans Manifesto.
And of course, we have the release of Infringed.
You guys gotta check it out.
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But tonight, joining us to talk about all of this, plus, The Making of Infringed Gun Rights in America.
We've got Lauren Southern and Jean Dutrois.
Lauren, what's up?
lauren southern
Hey, thanks for having me.
It's definitely a pleasure to finally see the film out.
It's been a long time coming and all the reactions have been incredible coming in.
All positive.
tim pool
That's right.
And Lauren, in an act of celebratory defiance, took our $5,000 cognac and insisted upon drinking from a paper cup.
That's right.
Right now, everybody who knows what Louis XIII is is probably throwing up a little in their mouth as she prepares to pour it into a paper cup, but you know, she wants to... It's okay, it won't let me open it.
lauren southern
It's like, I know you want to blaspheme against me.
tim pool
There's a button you push and it pops out.
lauren southern
No, I just ripped it open and I'm gonna throw it in this paper cup.
tim pool
So Lauren, of course, is a documentary filmmaker.
I mean, do you want to mention anything else about your work?
You're doing work with Tenet Media now?
lauren southern
Yes, I'm with Tenet Media, which you are as well.
Very exciting crew.
We've got Matt Christensen, Taylor Hanson, Ruben, Benny Johnson.
Yeah, so you can go check them out.
Tenet Media on YouTube.
Watch Tenet now on the Twitters and I'll be doing videos and little mini docs for them and hopefully some more Documentaries for you as well.
But yeah, if you want to check out some of my older film work, I've done farmlands on South Africa, borderless on the migrant crisis, American Mirage, Crossfire, and now Infringed.
I've got quite the body of work.
And the lovely John Dutrois has helped me with a couple of those now.
Three of them.
Three of them now.
unidentified
Yeah, you did Crossfire, too.
tim pool
Who are you, sir?
unidentified
What do you do?
Well, I'm John Dutois.
I'm the guy who's behind the scenes.
I'm behind the camera.
So it's a real privilege and honor for me to be in front of the camera for once.
lauren southern
You deserve the credit.
unidentified
Thank you for having me.
tim pool
This is blasphemy right here.
But it's become a meme because she drank Pappy from a paper cup.
For those that don't know, that's like, I don't know, $1,000 whiskey, or is it bourbon?
lauren southern
So how much does this cost?
We earned this, we worked hard, okay?
tim pool
Okay, your point, that's like $300.
lauren southern
I just poured $300?
tim pool
Probably.
When you go to bars, they use eyedroppers, and they're very careful about drops.
But we cracked this open when Elon finally secured Twitter and became ex.
ian crossland
I should try it.
tim pool
John wants some in an actual glass.
Anyway, they're celebrating the release of the film.
We also have Phil Labonte hanging out.
phil labonte
Hello everybody, my name is Phil Labonte, lead singer of All That Remains, very failed musician, and anti-communist and counter-revolutionary.
ian crossland
I'm Ian Crossland.
Happy to be here.
I got Richie Jackson's gift, this wild shirt.
Thanks, Richie.
What's happening?
The rock star himself.
And John, good to see you.
Lauren, obviously awesome.
Good to see you.
It's good to see you guys in front of the camera.
To my right is this man.
serge du preez
Good to see you, man.
Let me just adjust this quickly.
Ready when you are, Tim.
unidentified
Let's go.
tim pool
Let's get it.
Here's the first story from ABC 27.
Voting machines in one Pennsylvania county flip votes for judges, an error to be fixed in tabulation.
I love this.
A quick correction for the beginning of the show.
I said it was in one location.
Actually, voting machines, plural, in a county were flipping votes.
Check this out.
They say voters were asked to decide whether Pennsylvania Superior Court judges Jack Piniella and Victor Stabile Should be retained for additional 10-year terms.
The yes or no votes for each judge were being switched because of the error.
Said Lamont Clure, the Northampton County Executive, if a voter marked yes to retain Piniella and no, for example, for Stabile, it was reflected as no on Piniella and yes on Stabile.
Or however you pronounce that.
Now look, They're saying it's going to be fixed.
The first question I have is, what if no one noticed, and more importantly, what if no one noticed any others?
How are we supposed to?
This is a huge, huge problem, because right now, voter confidence is probably at an all-time low, considering 2020, and even 2022 midterms.
And now with this, it's not even this.
We got a bunch of other stories.
Here we go.
Let me see if I have a... No, no, we're getting there.
Nick Sorter says, one of the top five most liberal voting precincts in Kentucky has been cleared out due to a supposed gas leak.
Kentuckians are currently at the polls voting to decide whether or not they want to oust their Democrat Governor Andy Beshear and replace him with Trump-backed Daniel Cameron.
Highland Baptist Church in Louisville will now be having extended voting hours after being shut down.
We have this one.
Two Jefferson County polls get extended voting time after brief shutdowns.
So this is a related story.
We're basically getting a... It's not confidence building.
Now, I'll say it right.
I'll say it like this.
I don't know if this matters in the big picture.
These singular individual voting events.
Let me clarify.
I don't know if right now just this one thing matters.
I think together, however, and the bigger picture matters is what I'm trying to say.
If you're getting stories like this and people already don't trust the system, it is going to shock confidence in our elections.
Which means it doesn't matter who wins.
If the Democrat wins, the Republicans are going to point to these.
And if the Republican wins, the Democrats are going to point to these.
Democrats will say things like, Republicans were so salty about 2020, they started manipulating with machines.
And Republicans are going to say, Democrats are here doing the same thing they've been doing.
I don't see When you look at what's going on already, and it's not even the biggest election day, I mean, come on, the primary voting is gonna be bonkers.
I'm not even talking about, you know, November 2024, the general.
What's gonna happen when people go to vote in the primaries and they're getting weird things happening?
What happens when people go to vote in the primary and a blue state's like, oh, whoopsie, you didn't vote for Trump, you voted for DeSantis or something like that?
ian crossland
What you should do is immediately stop, release the software code of that machine.
Because they're calling it an error.
And was it an error or was it supposed to do what it did?
lauren southern
Yeah it's really weird to me how people have this very black and white view of voter fraud.
It's like either it's not happening at all and if you say it's happening then you're an election denier blah blah blah or it's like the whole system is rigged and you might as well not vote.
Like of course voter fraud is happening.
Of course there are people tampering machines.
Of course there are people stuffing ballots.
We know this.
People have been charged for this in the past and as we're seeing if you look at polls over time of where people are at on the political spectrum everyone is pushing further to the fringes And as that happens, people are going to feel it is more of a life-or-death situation to try to rig elections.
Of course they're going to feel that way.
Oh yeah, if I change this machine, I'm literally saving trans lives, or I'm literally saving the country from, you know, whatever it might be.
So I think we really need to be looking out for this.
This doesn't mean don't vote at all.
If anything, I think the media are the bigger election riggers than anyone in this.
But yeah, there's a very real phenomenon happening more than we probably know.
tim pool
This is why you need to make sure you go out and vote.
There's two big things here.
One, they want to demoralize you.
For all you know, like for all the people who think there's a conspiracy to steal votes, maybe the real conspiracy is they want to convince you not to vote.
I don't believe they can rig every single machine.
Now, see this story?
This is really demoralizing.
You mean even if I do go out and vote, they might flip my vote?
Don't fall for it!
Don't fall for it, because they... When I say they, I'm talking about your political opponents, and I don't care who they are.
It's establishment, neolib, neocon, all of them.
All the people playing dirty politics want to convince you not to vote so that they can win.
It's like that episode of South Park.
Where they're voting for the giant douche in the turd sandwich, and then I can't remember what happened, I think Kyle goes to Stan and he's like, you gotta vote!
And he's like, okay, I'll vote, I guess.
He's like, awesome!
Wait, who are you voting for?
I'm voting for the other guy.
No, wait, don't vote!
They want to convince you to vote, but if they find out you're gonna vote for their opponent, they don't want you to vote.
ian crossland
I think if these machines are flipping votes intentionally, the more people that vote, the more likely it's gonna get found out that they're flipping votes.
So you should definitely vote.
And pay close attention.
lauren southern
And be volunteering.
Be involved in your local elections.
Be involved in your local community.
Half the people that are volunteering are going to be these activist types that are on welfare, that don't have jobs, that have all the time in the world.
You go be involved in that.
We should be at our local elections.
We should be the volunteers there because that's going to be how you're going to spot this stuff.
tim pool
Next year is going to be wild.
I don't even know where to begin with it.
phil labonte
The fact that there's a lack of trust in the establishment, essentially, is I think that the lack of belief in the soundness of the elections, that's baked into the distrust of the establishment.
And the more we see people that are skeptical or that are cynical about voting or about the system, the more you're going to have things like people Essentially confirmation bias though.
They'll see something that seems anomalous or seems weird and then they'll be like well I know it's definitely this because all it takes is one small thing for people to be like now I'm I've seen enough to have my previous opinions confirmed and so now it's it's not a you know now the whole thing should be thrown away and that's just a symptom of having a a System that people are very cynical about you know people are extremely Mistrusting of the establishment media the establishment within when it comes to the government, and it's not just in the United States I mean you guys were talking about what Canada's like now, and this is a phenomenon
This is a phenomenon that's happening across basically the whole of Western society.
tim pool
I do think what Lauren just said is consent to an American invasion of Canada.
lauren southern
Absolutely.
Well, it would be of China.
phil labonte
You gotta wait till springtime, alright?
It's cold up there.
tim pool
I just want to let you know, you do know the founding fathers of the United States went to you guys and said, y'all were colonies too, and our guys were like, you guys want to get in on this?
And you were like, nah, we're good.
phil labonte
We still had a bit of firepower.
lauren southern
We were burning down the White House, alright?
We still had a bit going on for us.
tim pool
The British did.
We almost took Montreal.
lauren southern
Our ancestors.
Did you guys see the Canada election fraud stuff with the Chinese interference?
tim pool
How many people live in Canada?
Like 30 something million?
lauren southern
How can you guys not care about this?
You're gonna have a colony of China living above you.
Literally.
tim pool
We're going to?
Remember when the Chinese army went to Canada and was like doing training drills?
lauren southern
Yeah, literally, and you guys don't care about this?
phil labonte
When I was at the airport... Your board is three hours from my house in New Hampshire, I damn well care, you know this.
lauren southern
Yeah, you should.
Not only were the ads, the wait times for my flights were all in Chinese, Vancouver is becoming a Chinese-majority city right now, and Like, people are raising the Chinese Communist flag at City Hall and police stations and stuff.
It's kind of wild.
But yeah, we've had a proven, by CSIS, our intelligence agency, Chinese influence campaign in Canada to win the election for Liberals.
Donations, they've put out ads for students and Chinese-only ads encouraging people that are Chinese in Canada to vote.
For liberal politicians, and it's been, and honey pots have been deployed, CSIS confirmed that, against- Maple pots.
Maple pots.
Syrup pots in Canada.
phil labonte
Thank you, sir.
lauren southern
But full-blown, full-blown, and this is just like not being talked about how our elections are literally being- Well, it happened in 2015 as well, except it was the U.S.
unidentified
doing it.
James O'Keefe had a report about Chinese money flowing through ActBlue, I think.
It was like deep state US.
tim pool
They helped put, you know, James O'Keefe had a report about Chinese money flowing through
Act Blue, I think.
You were something big about that.
phil labonte
Lauren, you were talking about immigration.
Is immigration largely from China in Canada?
Is that the phenomenon?
unidentified
That's what's interesting.
lauren southern
We used to have a large amount of it, particularly B.C.
Vancouver from Hong Kong, but it's flipped.
It's like, you know, in the single percentages for Hong Kong, and it's mostly mainland China now coming to B.C.
Vancouver.
They call it Hong Coover.
You're not supposed to say that out loud, but it's like... Yeah, you can't say anything out loud.
When you literally have enclaves.
I was getting my nails done at the airport, true story, and the lady lives in Richmond, which is where the YVR airport is, and she's like, oh yeah, I can't shop at certain stores.
And she's not particularly political, she's just like, Richmond, BC, like Vancouver area.
And she's like, yeah, they just don't want me shopping there because I'm white and I don't speak the language, the local language.
You look at complexes being built in Richmond and all of the advertisements for buying are in Chinese.
They're not in English.
I could show you videos right now, all of the housing.
It's, we are a Chinese colony at this point.
tim pool
What is the voter fraud angle?
lauren southern
Oh, well, China is directly influencing our elections in Canada.
They are deploying ad campaigns, they're deploying honeypots, they're involved in offering tons of money to liberal politicians because they want to continue to have large amounts of control over our economy.
And also money laundering, they call it snow washing in Canada.
Tons of, I think it was, we have the same amount of money laundering as the UK, but we have about a 3% success rate at actually pursuing them legally compared to the UK.
ian crossland
I've seen it from Al Jazeera.
This is from September, a couple months ago, Canada.
Canada opens inquiry into allegations of election meddling by China and Russia.
I also saw from Bloomberg in 2021, China's alleged election meddling creates problem for Trudeau.
tim pool
AP.
AP reporting from September 2023.
China announces public inquiry into whether China, Russia, and others interfered in elections.
lauren southern
Yeah, there's a whole investigation into it.
It's all confirmed.
I think a lot of it was broken by Global?
No, it wasn't Global.
It was McLean's?
tim pool
Americans!
See, here's what happens.
In the revolutionary era, the era of independence in the United States, It wasn't just 13 colonies.
Everyone says the original 13 colonies, but they don't realize that British colonies actually extend up into Canada.
There's many of them.
And the Founding Fathers, the same negotiations they're having with, say, Florida, or South Carolina, or whatever, are the same negotiations they're having with Quebec, another British colony.
Well, up north, the Canadian, what is now Canada, was like, we're not interested in declaring independence.
You're on your own.
So it's actually a bunch of British colonies, and only some of them declared independence.
I think what you see here is the United States has more descendants of rebels.
There were more people here who were rebellious and willing to fight and die for independence than in Canada.
Canada ends up with more people who are willing to play ball.
They're more willing to say, look, look, I don't want to get into a fight.
And this opens the door to heavy soft power from, say, China or Russia.
ian crossland
What are gun rights like in China?
lauren southern
I want to make one more comment.
You know what the most depressing part of all of this is?
I don't even get my scam calls in English anymore.
unidentified
That's true in the United States too.
tim pool
My good friend Scam Likely calls very often and always leaves you a message.
ian crossland
You know that guy too?
tim pool
Scam Likely, that's his name.
serge du preez
You guys know Telemarketer?
lauren southern
They're always in Chinese.
They actually expect when they call a Vancouver phone number that we're more likely to reach a Chinese person.
phil labonte
Have you picked up any Mandarin?
lauren southern
I need to, clearly.
tim pool
You know what I think that is?
I think that this is a big problem in the United States and in North America in general.
Where we're all getting these random phone calls, and it's been ongoing for a long time when you answer it, you get an automated machine saying something in Mandarin you can't understand.
But understand this, for you as an individual, having a minute or two of distraction, it's no big deal to your life.
But for the entire country, China can calculate the macro level.
When we run these bots to phone to call 7 million people per day, we depress the US economy by 0.02% or something like this.
It is the macro effect.
As an individual, you don't care, but on the whole, it could be massive.
I describe it like blackjack.
You know, at the table for the time, it's basically a coin toss between you and the house, but that 0.5% edge over the year means the casino will make money.
Same thing for China doing these scam calls.
lauren southern
Well, you know what it does, too?
It makes people never pick up phone calls.
Exactly.
Like, you get a call from a business that's actually, like, involved in your life and your community, wanting you to come out.
You're not answering that.
No one answers the phone.
We were just talking about this this morning.
We don't answer our phones anymore.
unidentified
I don't.
ian crossland
I don't even have my ringer on.
I keep my ringer off.
tim pool
Did you guys hear about what happened with the banks?
lauren southern
No.
tim pool
Last week, all these different banks had payroll disruption and people think it's like, oh, so I didn't get my paycheck for a few hours.
It was kind of annoying.
Hold on.
Let's say a million people are expecting their paycheck right when they wake up.
Instead, they get it at 4 p.m.
How many of these people living the paycheck-to-paycheck had a bill that was due that day?
unidentified
Oh, it's a big problem.
The same thing happened in Canada a few months ago with TD.
They missed payroll.
And I mean, and there's people who are moving into new homes and, you know... People's rent that was missed.
lauren southern
I think Trudeau even had to do a statement about it.
unidentified
Right, right.
ian crossland
And then what, they charge people overdraft fees?
That's insidious.
If a bank can't give you your payroll, they cannot charge you an overdraft.
tim pool
Good luck!
They don't care.
ian crossland
Man, that's like, use your Second Amendment right, your First Amendment right.
tim pool
The sixth bank this year just collapsed in the United States.
Was it like Iowa Savings and Loan or something like that just collapsed?
ian crossland
I gotta ask, so the American colonies split off from the Canadian colonies, long, 250 years ago.
What are gun rights like in Canada from then to now?
What was the establishment existence of weapons rights?
lauren southern
There's, you know, it's been pretty good, but there's this short period when a certain politician got elected that they all seemed to disappear overnight.
I can't... Trudeau, right, yeah.
No, immediately as he came in, like 2020, they got rid of AKs, M4s, M16s, 1,500 weapons, like all overnight, gone, added to restricted, can't buy anymore.
And then after the Uvalde shooting, because of course Uvalde is in Canada and this really affects us, and the gun used was definitely a gun that's legal in Canada, not one that doesn't even...
Anyway, it made no sense he banned handguns while we were filming the documentary In Fringe, so you can't purchase, transfer them anymore, and this is going to keep happening over and over.
They're floating bills to ban things like the Plinkster, which is literally like, you know, to shoot tin cans, and they're talking about banning these guns.
If Trudeau and the Liberals stay in for another, you know, they win the next election, We're not going to have guns.
tim pool
I want to jump to the story, which will lead us into a bigger conversation about gun control.
This is from The Post Millennial.
YouTube removes Steven Crowder's reporting on trans Nashville shooter manifesto, claiming violation of violent criminal organization's policy.
So Crowder does this big breaking story.
It is now confirmed, verified, several pages of the manifesto, I should say of the journal and documents of the individual, Showing an anti-white motivation.
It may not be the only motivation, but it appears to be that woke critical race theory was a component of what drove the individual to go and take the lives of several children and faculty members.
Now, right off the bat, I just want to say this.
I think one of the big reasons why the mainstream press and many political individuals, politicians, are suppressing that story is not because of the fear of the privacy or anything like that, violating privacy.
It's because they always want to immediately jump to gun control.
Anytime something like this happens, it's not, what was the cause behind this?
It was, all that matters is guns.
Yet, in Chicago, guns don't really matter.
In Baltimore, it's not really.
It's only when there's violent extremism.
And I think the issue is, whether it be, even whatever you describe, identitarian extremism, whether it's pro or anti-white, they want to use these things for political gain, and they want to push away any responsibility they may have for their failed gun policies.
So I want to say, as we start this segment, Shout out, go to TimCast.com, watch Infringed, become a member if you haven't already.
For those that are just tuning in, go to TimCast.com, right on the front page you will see a Lauren Southern film, Infringed Gun Rights in America.
It is nearly two hours, you gotta watch it.
You guys did amazing work on this.
But let's break this down.
We've got YouTube has a bunch of crazy rules on guns.
They take it very, very seriously.
Now, I think it's fair to a certain degree, right?
YouTube says no live streaming any kind of gun content, and I'm like, their concern is that someone's gonna go on a rampage, but I honestly don't think that makes sense.
You can't post any kind of violent criminal activity on YouTube at all.
Why ban live streams?
I think the big issue, YouTube, Facebook, and, you know, probably Instagram, They don't want people promoting gun rights in the United States or anywhere, and they can't just outright remove it.
But there have been a bunch of issues that have happened with YouTube a while, and Google.
I remember, this is a really funny story, back in 2018.
YouTube banned guns from shopping, and they were so stupid, they banned Gundam Wing.
Do you guys know what Gundam is?
lauren southern
Oh, I know Gundam.
tim pool
Gundam is an anime, and it's G-U-N-D-A-M, and they're giant fighting Japanese robots in space, and Google banned people trying to buy it, because they were trying to suppress the word gun.
So I certainly think it's overtly political, and they're working.
Let me just add this to it.
When we learned a while ago, but now with confirmation from the GOP, that the government is colluding with Stanford University and big tech organizations to silence and suppress the rights of individuals, absolutely YouTube and Facebook are taking a political stance to suppress our rights.
First and second.
ian crossland
What I don't get is, I feel like I see these videos on YouTube of like, a dude walking into a shop, and then the guy, the shop pulls out his weapon and fires at the guy, and like, they're all on YouTube.
tim pool
What do you mean, like a movie?
What's that, like a movie?
ian crossland
No, no, like security camera footage of a guy coming into Rob's store.
That is not on YouTube.
Are you sure?
unidentified
Because I'll see people doing- Absolutely, that's on X.
ian crossland
It'll be like a guy talking about the video and then the guy will walk in and he'll pull out the gun.
lauren southern
If it's like a mainstream media channel, I remember after some of the mass shootings that happened and the whole monetization video issue came about on YouTube, like Jimmy Fallon Tonight, Jimmy Kimmel, all these people were able to do videos about the mass shootings that were monetized but no one else could.
So you may have seen that on mainstream media channels that have the go-ahead.
phil labonte
There are a couple channels that do cover that.
There's one called Active Self-Protection, which I forget the guy's name, but he actually covers international stuff a lot of times.
You'll have stuff from South America, but it's always some kind of security footage.
And he will go over what could have been done better if it was an actual self-defense shooting.
unidentified
It's probably not monetized, though.
lauren southern
Donut Operators in the film does that, too.
ian crossland
Active Self-Protection has 30 million subscribers.
lauren southern
Donuts, yeah.
Yeah, I don't want to talk about the strategies people use to get around these issues.
unidentified
It's not straightforward.
lauren southern
Yeah, no, it's not.
tim pool
And we know there are a lot of very serious rules.
I remember that a bunch of the big gun YouTubers were talking about the restrictions that were placed, and they're weird and hard to understand.
But I think it's fair to say YouTube taking down this manifesto serves nothing but the gun control narrative and the left liberal establishment narrative.
If it comes out, it's not just about guns, don't get me wrong.
Yeah, it's also about critical race theory, diversity, equity, inclusion.
It's like, oh, the extremist ideology of the left is resulting in extremists taking action as a component.
There's more to this story.
We haven't gotten the full release here, but I think a core component is there are powerful interests that want to ban guns in government and the private sector, and it is beneficial if you can shut down any I'm concerned that like, and I always hate to pin it on the CCP, because I want the United States and China to be allies long term.
ian crossland
But like, for them to be like, hey, Alphabet, Google's parent company, money, money, money, you want to roll in China?
We don't want you to have Certain gun rights things and like what are they really trying to get the United States to screw itself by removing its own amendments like come on like our Constitution is more important than corporate oligarchy and we cannot let foreigners stop us from exercising our rights and cherishing our rights.
lauren southern
Yeah, it's actually, I mean, there's always the point of, oh, why arm yourself?
The government's so powerful, they'll just nuke you, whatever.
Well, it's actually very hard to fight large, you know, populations that are all armed and spread out in a diaspora, you know, whether you're in rice fields or in the Middle East, it's always proven difficult.
And if you can just psychologically disarm a population, By convincing them that they don't want or need or even have these things in their awareness.
It's so funny, actually, when I was checking in for my flight on the way here, there was a sign behind us that said, uh, declare if you have a gun.
And the Canadian guy standing beside me was asking the lady, do a lot of people actually bring guns from here, Vancouver?
And the lady was like, oh, believe it or not, they do.
And he's like, I thought no one owned them.
And this was a conversation I witnessed.
They want that to be the average person's thought process.
They want the average person to not even conceptualize or conceive that.
Why would I need a gun?
No one does that.
tim pool
That's for hicks!
unidentified
It's a long-term strategy, right?
Yeah.
phil labonte
They've been largely successful, I think, honestly.
Like, unless you're a person that is It tends to be people that are pro-Second Amendment in the U.S.
They tend to be people that are also politically motivated, politically active.
The reason that there hasn't been success in the U.S.
with significant anti-gun legislation, gun control, the reason that there's been victories for the past 20 or so years, so predominantly, is because of the fact that the people that are pro-gun are so politically active. The idea that there's a
lot of money going to individual congress people from the gun industry, that's a fallacy.
The money that's going to the, to the, the money that, that is actually big money is from
Raytheon. They're making missile batteries, they're making drones, they're making serious,
you know, the kind of weaponry that's sold to states. The, the companies that make small arms
generally don't have Have these big contracts and they're not giving tons of money the idea that the NRA is responsible is a fallacy most gun Gun owners really look at the NRA as a meme and as a joke and it's the it's where all the fuds go You know, so the idea that
That it's something other than grassroots preventing significant legislation.
That's all a fallacy.
tim pool
But I think we're winning.
ian crossland
Yeah, for sure.
We're so lucky that the 20th century was televised and recorded.
Because what Hitler did was so egregious.
He disarmed his population and then sent in the shock troops to control them.
And that will never happen again.
tim pool
Well, I think you got a correction for us.
lauren southern
Sorry?
tim pool
I think you got a correction for what Ian just said.
unidentified
Yeah, well, yeah.
tim pool
It's in the documentary!
unidentified
That's right.
You know, there's a meme that says that Hitler, you know, he took all the guns, right?
But it actually started right after World War I. And Germany, you know, because they lost the war, they had to abide by the Treaty of Versailles.
And in that treaty was required that they disarm the citizens.
tim pool
That was 1920, right?
unidentified
1919-1920.
So it was the Allies that actually required that of Germany to disarm the population.
ian crossland
So they disarmed the enemy.
lauren southern
So they used a policy that was already in place against the people.
And this is what's so interesting is we always say like, oh, we're going to put in these policies for our side of politics, like for the lefties.
But you guys don't realize that as soon as a government that you really disagree with gets in power, they can utilize those policies against you.
tim pool
Here's the important...
An important point that was brought up in Infringed.
In 1920, Germany's forced to disarm their population.
In 1928, they reintroduce permitting and gun registry.
You wanna own a gun, you gotta prove that you need it for a legitimate reason to defend yourself, and then you can apply for a permit and register.
And then, now you're on the list, and when the Nazis come to power, they have a list of everyone who is armed, and they start hunting those people down.
unidentified
And then, of course, the Nazis, too.
They relaxed gun restrictions for Nazi Party members.
But then, if you're a Jew, you are not allowed to own a gun.
So again, gun control is not about your safety.
tim pool
Gun control is not about controlling guns.
It's about using guns to control you.
lauren southern
And this is, like, why these lists are so important, too.
Like, the registries in Canada, the long gun registries, they tried to put in.
Right now, actually, this January, the ATF are bringing in, you need to register your stabilizing braces with the ATF, or you need to hand in modified guns with them.
These registries are all to be used against you eventually.
tim pool
Real quick, Phil, didn't the Supreme Court overturn the pistol brace?
phil labonte
Currently there's a stay on the enforcement of the pistol brace.
It's only for people that are members of GOA and FPC, which are both great pro-gun organizations, Firearms Policy Coalition and Gun Owners of America.
But they have the actual lawsuit against the ATF, and so their members are covered under the state.
tim pool
But only their members?
phil labonte
Only their members.
tim pool
So what if you sign up right now?
phil labonte
You can join now, and you will be covered by the stay, but you have to be a member of either the Firearms Policy Coalition, it's gun policy, it's ag gun policy on Twix, or you have to be a member of GOA.
Both are great.
A little partial to Firearms Policy Coalition because they're a little more hoist-the-black-flag kind of dudes, and I like that.
But you have to be a member of either of those two.
Otherwise, a brace is currently a felony, and you'll get 10 years, $250,000 fine if you have a braced AR-15.
They'll basically just be treating it as a short-barrel rifle unless you're a member of those two.
tim pool
I think I'm a member of all of them, to be honest.
I think one day I just went to every gun rights organization and started donating.
ian crossland
What does it take to become part of it?
phil labonte
A donation?
Give them your information?
lauren southern
So like for Canada to have a gun license, you have to have a gun club that you're a part of or a range that you're a member of, right?
You have to have your PAL, your RPAL if you want to own anything that's got some real firepower kick behind it.
And you got to have like your ammo gun separate.
Guns have to be locked, a trigger lock on them, ammunition, you know, like what?
Do you guys have any of that comparable?
phil labonte
Yes, depends where.
tim pool
We have a handful of states that people refer to as the evil seven.
phil labonte
He's right.
tim pool
Yeah.
And, you know, when I lived in New Jersey, we had some security, you know, concerns.
And this is before I bought a gun.
So I decided, you know, I need to get a gun.
Well, the cops told me.
Well, I was told by a cop.
If it were me, I'd answer the door with a shotgun.
That's all.
He didn't say, go buy a gun.
He was like, you know what I'm saying?
And I'm like, okay.
And then I was told by the police, if someone were to try to break into my home, I can do nothing.
If someone is actively at my door, smashing out the window and reaching in to open the door, I cannot take action against that person.
unidentified
It's like Canada.
tim pool
Because it would be murder.
Now, If he breaks into your home, now it's a different story.
Because if he breaks into your home, you are legally required to flee your home, and you still can't defend yourself.
This is like Canada.
And I said, where would I go?
I'm in my house.
This is where I live.
And then what I was told was, when you tell that to a judge, you are saying in court, I would rather kill a man than stand outside.
And that's the way the court will interpret what you're saying, and that is considered unreasonable.
And they said, only if you are trapped.
And I said, so if I'm backed into a corner with no doors and a guy in front of me, I can shoot him then, and what if he dies?
Say, okay, that's the best part.
You will now have an affirmative defense after we arrest you and charge you with a felony, and you spend six months in prison.
You can tell a judge you were trapped.
Hopefully he believes you.
And I was like, holy crap.
Maryland's a little better.
If you are outside your house watering your lawn and a guy comes up to you threatening you, you must run into your house.
If the man then tries to break into your house, which is what I am told by law enforcement, you can then defend yourself.
So actually, to a much greater degree than New Jersey, Uh, but West Virginia, by far, is substantially better.
West Virginia, you can be on any property, whether you're indoors or outdoors, and if you are threatened, you can defend yourself.
You can't just shoot anybody, this is not true.
Like, someone walks on your property, you're like, aha!
You know, he's coming right for me.
But if you are threatened, then you can justify the threat.
Florida's even crazier.
And Texas, too.
Stand your ground.
You know, very little probable cause.
You can be anywhere.
Legally, you know.
West Virginia also, it is still very similar.
If you're in West Virginia, you're a constitutional carrier, you're walking around, someone threatens you, and you have reasonable fear of great bodily harm or death, you can defend yourself.
ian crossland
Dude, I was in Florida three weeks ago, for like three weeks, and I was feeling that, the concealed carry thing.
I was walking around at night and looking at people, and I'm like, they all probably have guns.
Everyone's got a gun.
unidentified
Except me.
ian crossland
And they're all looking at me and thinking, he's probably got a gun.
And we all just have massive respect for each other.
unidentified
That's called herd immunity.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, if you are in a place where you can legally carry a gun, I mean, essentially you are kind of rolling the dice like that person may have a gun.
Do I really want is is the fact that he bumped into me or looked at me wrong?
Is it worth making comment over it?
Because maybe it escalates to something.
Very bad.
And if you're carrying a gun, you definitely need, you have to know that you can't just be like, oh that guy's giving me a dirty look so I'm just gonna mean mug him all night long.
Because you're responsible for de-escalating.
These are things that you have to understand.
unidentified
He might have a gun too.
phil labonte
You know, exactly.
tim pool
One thing that always bothered me growing up in Chicago is that I had friends who would road rage.
And I'd be like, people who weren't from the south side who didn't get it, I guess, and they'd either come from different neighborhoods or from the suburbs.
We'd be driving on the highway, someone would cut them off, and they'd switch the lanes, speed up and start flicking them off and screaming at them.
And I'm like, bro, do you know how many stories I can tell you about a dude getting shot in the face because he decided to road rage out for no reason?
I'm not saying that you've got to back down.
I'm saying choose your battles.
You ain't gaining nothing by screaming at a dude in the highway and swerving around.
If someone cuts you off, choose your battles.
Just... It happens, man.
Don't get out... Don't get bent out of shape.
But, dude, some people I knew would rage out.
And there's so many stories where...
There's dudes with illegal guns.
Now, I don't think they... I actually don't think the guns should be illegal, to be completely honest.
People who have acquired guns in ways the state does not like, but you have a right to keep them in their arms.
That being said, they acquired these guns in illegal ways, and that means they do not have good intentions.
And you can't defend yourself from them because you can't have a gun.
Now, because of DC versus Heller, you can have guns, but they still make it near impossible.
And only recently, I think there's still issues with Maryland.
Maryland was an in-practice, no-issue state, meaning even though they say you can't apply for a permit, they would never give you one.
New York was similar, New Jersey was similar.
Now with the latest, was it Bruin?
I think the latest Supreme Court hearing, they're like, you have to give permits if people request one.
So now I think Maryland's still giving people the business.
But New York has started issuing permits.
phil labonte
So the catalyst for me leaving Massachusetts and going to New Hampshire was the last straw was when I went to the police officer and went through the whole rigmarole, asked for a license to carry, and the issuing officer just flat out said, we don't give them out in the town that I'm in.
And I'm like, what do you mean you don't give them out?
And this is back in 2010 or so.
tim pool
I want to jump to the story from BearingArms.com.
Will SCOTUS intervene in Illinois assault weapons case?
This is big news.
This could... Look, let me just first start this segment by saying we're winning.
I think more than half the country is already in some form constitutional carry.
Though Florida only allows concealed carry without a permit, you can't open carry, which is interesting, but I think more than half the country, something like, what, 26 states, it's now constitutional carry, meaning if you live in the state, you get an ID, you can walk into a gun store, you can say, I'd like to purchase a gun, fill out the federal background check form, once you clear, you can buy the gun.
You don't need a permit from the state.
However, they're trying to ban assault weapons.
And as we learned in the documentary, Infringed, that just came out, nobody even knows what that means.
It has no universal definition.
And anybody who knows anything about guns knows there is no such thing as an assault weapon.
lauren southern
Somewhat similar to the What is the Woman documentary, we went around and we like interviewed everyone.
So what is an assault weapon?
And that is the...
unidentified
Right.
lauren southern
Conclusion we came to.
Not a single person could define it.
unidentified
It works to their advantage, right?
Because in Biden's State of the Union, you know, he was talking about a shooting that happened with a handgun.
phil labonte
Yeah.
unidentified
And then, you know, at the end he goes, ban assault weapons now.
Okay, but you just talked about a handgun.
People don't... It's a semi-automatic handgun.
phil labonte
People don't understand that And thankfully for it, but the people that are anti-gun for a long time haven't wanted to educate themselves about guns.
And what's unfortunate, and what they're starting to learn now, is really what they're after is semi-automatic.
tim pool
I'm assuming 99% of people who watch this show know what semi-automatic means.
It means when you pull the trigger, a single bullet comes out.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
You had that great clip in Infringed of Michael Bloomberg saying, semi-automato, they pull the trigger back and it just goes bop bop bop bop.
Not true.
Let me read this from Baring Grounds.
It's important.
They say, Today's Supreme Court arguments focused on the federal prohibition on firearms possession for those subject to a domestic violence restraining order, and in the months ahead, the court will hear cases involving the ATF's administratively imposed ban on bump stocks, as well as a First Amendment case brought by the National Rifle Association against a New York official that the group contends illegally pressured private companies not to work with the organization.
I want to say that now two activists in the land of Lincoln are ready to try their luck at the Supreme Court once again.
This time after the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals recently overturned an injunction and allowed the state's ban on so-called assault weapons and large capacity magazines to be enforced.
In their decision, the three-judge panel concluded that AR-15s and other arms labeled, quote, assault weapons by Illinois lawmakers are not protected by the Second Amendment at all because semi-automatic rifles are like machine guns, which the court declared are not protected weapons in the Heller decision.
The actual phrasing was, weapons that are most useful in military service, M16 rifles, and the like.
The Supreme Court has also said that arms that are in common use for lawful purposes are protected.
This could be big.
This could mean that we finally end This stupid fake assault weapon argument.
There is no such thing as an assault weapon.
Now, by all means, if they wanted to draft a simple statement as to what an assault weapon was, let's hear it.
The issue?
Assault weapon is a nebulous term intentionally used to scare people to try and gain control.
lauren southern
Exactly.
And you saw this with like the Cody Wilson interview, Ghost Gunner, right, where he talks about how the ATF are constantly playing this cat and mouse game with him with just the definition of a gun, a rifle in general.
He's like, in order to restrict and control us, they want to make the polymer 80 like that has to be a gun.
the primordial form, then he creates just a block, the zero percent receiver, right?
Now the ATF is going to have to designate that a gun in order to track that down. And they will,
they will keep changing the definition because they want to be able to control it at all costs
tim pool
possible. Zero percent receiver. Okay, so it's a metal block.
It's just a rectangle of metal.
And a CNC machine, which basically cuts metal, can cut it into a receiver.
unidentified
Yeah, it's a desktop CNC machine that they make at Ghost Gunner that you can buy.
And then, you know, if you want to manufacture... If you want, if you're interested.
If you want to manufacture a lower receiver with it, they will send you the aluminum block in the mail.
And you just put it into the CNC.
tim pool
The story here is that companies used to sell what's called an 80%, which is not a complete gun, but it's components of.
And the ATF said, no, no, because people can make a gun with it, it's a gun officially.
So Ghost Gunner just sells blocks.
And then the issue here is, it's actually First Amendment, that 3D printed guns are just knowledge.
The knowledge or the file, the document that can make the weapon.
The issue is that 3D printing and at home CNC cutting metal and stuff.
It's cheap and ubiquitous.
So this is one of the big challenges that 3D printed guns, the cat's out of the bag, man.
lauren southern
Yeah, exactly.
phil labonte
Can't stop the signal.
lauren southern
It's gonna be crazy when they start like registering USB drives as guns.
tim pool
I will say.
phil labonte
Ironically.
lauren southern
Ironically, exactly.
tim pool
Everybody should definitely get safety training.
You know, don't take this stuff lightly.
I just read a crazy story where some guy in Brazil was goofing off like a moron and his girlfriend was filming him laughing and he pointed a gun at her and now she is no longer alive.
Guns?
See, this is the thing.
I feel like when Alec Baldwin killed that woman, Uh, Helena Hutchins.
Helena Hutchins with a gun.
The left defended him saying it's not his fault.
And I'm like, the craziest thing in the world to me is that the gun control people are saying a dude who pointed a loaded weapon at a woman and killed her had live ammo in his belt, it's not his fault, and all of the gun control people are like, you are responsible for whatever comes out of the barrel of a gun you are holding.
It's, I'm like, how are the gun control people excusing this?
phil labonte
There are four rules, and that's it.
At the end of the day, there are four rules.
Keep your fingers straight and off the trigger, never point a gun at anything that you wouldn't destroy, treat every gun as if it's loaded, and know your target and what's behind it at all times.
If you follow those rules, no one dies.
Period.
tim pool
Well, well...
Sometimes.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, no one dies by mistake.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
The point is, those are basic rules that you're taught immediately all the time to dramatically minimize stupidity, which results in people getting seriously hurt.
However, but let's be real.
You need to understand and respect firearms because misfires happen, like instructors sometimes have issues.
There's a lot of things that can go wrong.
lauren southern
But no one hates bad gun users more than other gun users.
Because they ruin it for everyone.
No one will be more outspoken against the Alec Baldwins of the world than, you know, the Donut operators and the Brandon Herreras who want you to use your guns properly.
phil labonte
Just put a picture up of you holding a gun with poor trigger discipline with your finger on it, and you're going to hear about it.
Absolutely.
Forever.
lauren southern
Forever.
Exactly.
tim pool
When I was in Egypt, we had to go to the state media building to get press cards so that you wouldn't get arrested for being there.
To walk into the state building they have armed guards standing on both sides of the of the walled entrance and These people do not have what is referred to as muzzle discipline They're holding all their weapons like this and so you so I limboed I'm just like bro that 18 year old Egyptian dude holding an AK straight up at head level I would rather limbo and have them laugh then Like, walk past that dude, you know what I'm saying?
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
I got the internet, I've seen what happens.
tim pool
Most people just didn't care and they walked past him and I'm just like, I'm gonna go like this and loop my head around.
lauren southern
But you have awareness around firearms.
Like, you are watching, you understand.
And even if someone doesn't want to own a firearm, having an understanding of how they work is a pretty damn critical skill.
It's humbling.
unidentified
You see all these clips like, you know, they'll, you know, they will pull the trigger and the shot doesn't go off and then they're like, Oh, what's wrong?
And then they look down the barrel.
Oh, don't do that.
tim pool
No, I want to stress the Alec Baldwin thing.
They're saying they might, they may bring charges again.
But Just understand this.
When these liberal people want to defend Alec Baldwin simply because he's a liberal... Listen, just understand this.
This is what we try to call out.
The dude had, reportedly, live bullets in his gun belt.
On his person.
He had a single action revolver, so you gotta pull the hammer back and then you gotta pull the trigger.
He lied about pulling the trigger.
There was a friend's conclusion that the trigger had to have been depressed the only way it would have fired.
There was a live round in the chamber.
I say outright, if you are handed a gun and it can fire bullets, you are responsible for what comes out of the end of it.
unidentified
Even if it's a blank.
tim pool
Exactly.
Blanks kill people.
And they don't understand this.
And the argument Alec Baldwin said was, If I were to have opened it to check, they would have rushed over and taken it from me for tampering with it.
lauren southern
That makes no sense.
tim pool
And I'm like, Hollywood is broken if they are handing random people weapons that those people have not checked.
Don't follow those policies.
That gets people hurt, and we saw it with Alec Baldwin.
lauren southern
I did a few videos on this and there are rules within like the Actors Guild and set workers and you can go and read them and they're pretty standardized most people know them and it says both the weapons handler and the actor is supposed to check so I don't know if if he said that that's insane because that's a pretty standard you can talk to any weapons expert in Hollywood and they all will affirm like both people are supposed to check.
unidentified
Live bullets on set.
That is never okay.
phil labonte
Yeah, that blows my mind.
unidentified
How does that happen?
phil labonte
I can't even imagine how that happened.
lauren southern
They claim that people were goofing off and... Shooting cans with the guns you are going to be using on set?
I'm sorry, what?
tim pool
It is insane to me.
You get all these liberals being like, it's not his fault, he's just an actor.
unidentified
But again, it's that mentality, right?
It's not hypocrisy, it's hierarchy.
tim pool
Exactly.
lauren southern
What are Hollywood people doing shooting cans on their spare time anyway?
ian crossland
Who's the producer on that film letting that happen?
tim pool
I want to jump to the story and get back into the more partisan politics here.
This is from the post-millennial.
Breaking!
Home of suspect in the killing of an elderly Jewish man at pro-Palestinian protest has been searched by police.
For those that didn't see the story, an elderly Jewish man was, I believe the reporting is he was struck in the head by a pro-Palestinian activist, fell down, hit his head and died.
Get this.
First, the breaking news on the story is that they're searching for this, they're searching this guy's house.
Take a look at this tweet from EndWokeness.
An old Jewish man was murdered by a pro-Palestinian activist.
The medical examiner already ruled it a homicide.
This is the media coverage.
CNN.
Man in California dies after suffering head injury at pro-Israel, pro-Palestinian demonstrations.
Here's one.
Jewish man dies after hitting head in altercation.
Here's one, Jewish man dies after altercation.
And here's another one, Jewish man dies from injury suffered in rally, in Israel-Palestine rally.
phil labonte
Incredible.
tim pool
There was a, I think it was the Daily Mail, I tweeted this out, said, elderly Jewish man dies after falling and hitting head.
It's just absolutely incredible.
So I went through all these stories.
I want to point out something else.
If you go to the Anti-Defamation League's extremism map, the Nashville shooter is not even listed.
So they all claim in the media that the right is a big threat.
Oh, the right wing, the right wing, the right wing.
A completely disorganized group of disparate ideologies.
Some that don't even agree with each other.
That's the big threat.
It's just random lone wolves when there is something they call right wing.
And when you get the far left extremism, they don't even put it on the map.
They don't track it and the cops don't go after it.
They go after it in a certain sense, but they don't call it terror.
They'll call it just, you know, an unfortunate tragedy or something.
lauren southern
I don't know how to explain how it feels being banned from a country for hatred, or what is it, racism, because I called out Islam not liking gay people very much, had a pride parade, and then to see the same streets filled with people calling for death.
tim pool
Are you still banned from the UK?
lauren southern
As far as I know, yeah.
tim pool
And you did like this pop-up pointing out that Islam is anti-LGBTQ.
lauren southern
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
So they said, get out and don't come back.
lauren southern
Get out and don't come back.
And then you have a bunch of people that have immigrated there, you know.
Not everyone, obviously.
There are supporters of Palestine that aren't chanting these things, of course, but there were people chanting, like, you know.
Death to the... I don't know if I can say it.
tim pool
LGBT and stuff.
lauren southern
And other groups.
I don't know what I can say on YouTube these days.
But yeah, it's saying these things.
And then none of them are... They're not even like citizens.
They're not being deported.
tim pool
Well, did you see when the guys were flying the English flag, the cops were like, you got to put that flag away.
It's inciting people.
And then a couple of guys were flying the Union Jack, which is the flag of Great Britain, not just England.
And they said, look, mate, there's more of them than us.
Put the flag away.
Yeah, and a lot of people were like that's it when you can't fly the flag of your own country in your country because People who are not from your country are threatening violence against you.
That's that's a crazy prospect I think what we're seeing now with this guy being killed and the bias Look, how many Jewish or right-wing protesters went to far-left events and killed Antifa guys?
It's not happened.
What we see consistently is the far-left engaging in acts of violence, and then they get excused by the media.
The media acts like nothing happened and no one was there.
And then they say, oh look, because there's no reporting on this, that proves the right's the bigger threat.
phil labonte
Steve Scalise, I believe, currently has a colostomy bag because he was shot by a far left Bernie Bro supporter at the congressional baseball game.
Rand Paul was at that same very baseball game.
He had to hit the deck for cover.
Rand Paul's been attacked at his home.
He was attacked walking in D.C.
one time.
He was attacked at his home.
There's the guy that you were talking about today, Jay, in... Aaron Danielson.
Yeah, Eric Danielson in... Aaron Danielson.
Oh, Aaron Danielson, yeah.
unidentified
I think it was Portland that that happened?
Yep.
phil labonte
So he was shot.
tim pool
You guys want to know something really, really, really funny?
When you look up the killing of Aaron Danielson on the ADL's website, it says Michael Reinald, an Antifa activist, shot and killed a right-wing extremist.
phil labonte
There's no reason to believe he was an extremist at all.
He was just a dude walking down the street!
And then there's also the kid that was killed by the driver specifically said that he was after him because he was a Trump supporter, and I'm sure that that is not treated as a political murder, because they try to talk it down now.
unidentified
And in the 2016 election, we saw so many instances of violence against Trump supporters.
I mean, it was just ubiquitous, but it wasn't covered in the media.
And Mike Cernovich went to the White House, you know, in the press briefing room, and, you know, he just called it out.
And they were laughing at him.
Yeah.
That was a response, right?
But like, you know, we were saying this stuff back then already.
Look where it is now.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Let me pull this up.
This is from the ADL's website.
It says, August 29, 2020.
Left-wing.
Michael Reinohl, an Antifa activist, shot to death a member of a right-wing extremist group during a protest in Portland.
phil labonte
Unbelievable.
tim pool
It's factually false.
So, it was a guy walking down the street.
There was no event.
The event was over.
And Michael Reinohl, who has a communist and extremist tattoo on his neck, walked up to him and shot him twice in the chest.
unidentified
Yeah, and the way it's framed, it's like, well, this is an anti-fascist person doing anti-fascist things, right?
Activism.
tim pool
No, this was an extremist who sought out a person on the right to kill.
But when they continually lie, cheat, and steal, and obfuscate these things... Now look, I'm not saying...
You know, that the right is more or less.
We had this conversation with Stephen Marsh on The Culture War.
He says there's more seditionists on the right.
I think that's actually factually incorrect.
I don't know what he means by the right, and he couldn't define it either, and he said it wasn't helpful, and I agree with him.
It was funny because he was criticizing me for saying the left and the right, and I was like, well, what do you say then?
Because then he said, he goes, look, you keep saying, like, the left and the right.
I'm like, what does that even mean?
Now, when you talk to the right, when they say these things, I was like, right there.
Like, what does it really mean?
We don't know.
But I can tell you that What we see in the press always ignores.
Let me tell you.
The Summer of Love riots was a mass death incident.
How many deaths qualify for a mass death incident?
phil labonte
More than three, is it?
unidentified
It's four, I think.
tim pool
Yeah, thirty deaths in the Summer of Love riots.
So, what's the issue?
ian crossland
They have to happen all within like 20 minutes of each other.
lauren southern
It has to be white people responsible.
tim pool
So my point is this.
The riots were one thing, fueled by one thing, led by people of a shared ideology which resulted in the death of between 24 and 36 people.
That's a mass death incident.
Facilitated by the left.
And the issue is exactly as I described it.
It is this widespread terror and blunt force violence.
And when it reaches that level, people die.
Now, by all means, be worried and upset that there are, you know, right-wing militias or whatever.
Whatever it is you're concerned about.
If someone actually is committing violence or threatening to do so, we should stop them.
What do we get?
We get the weird fake kidnapping plot, and then we get nothing from Chas Chopp.
You think the ADL's reporting on the fact that two guys unloaded hundreds of rounds from a rifle into a white SUV?
They don't do anything about it.
ian crossland
I think you're right.
We need to be on guard against far-right extremism as well.
Because I think Chase Geyser was saying, like, if the pendulum were to swing, he feels, I think he identified himself, he was on the show last night, as right-wing or whatever, part of the conservative movement or whatever.
That if the power were to come back, we need to have a cool head.
Maintain, you don't want people to go nuts in any direction from any, and like it says, we gotta make sure that we don't radicalize people and that we're on guard against radicalization.
It really doesn't matter what direction.
phil labonte
I forget where I read this, but someone was talking about violence and he said, the people on the left treat violence like a knob that you can turn up and down.
And they'll turn it up and they'll turn it down depending on the politics of the day.
People on the right treat Paul treat violence like an on-off switch you're voting you're voting now It's gunfight time and that's the that's the that really does speak to the character of people on the right and the left the people on the right Really do want to work within the system and they want to they want to they want to believe in the system because they're not Nihilists the way that people on the left are a lot of times people on the right if they're not
In an organized religion, they have some kind of connection to spirituality and stuff.
And so they believe in right and wrong.
People on the left don't generally believe in right and wrong.
And we had, I forget what his name when we on the, the, the, the culture war, the culture war on Friday, Stephen Marsh.
So he was talking about, he mentioned Morality is meaningless.
Yeah, morality is meaningless.
And so for him, it's clearly something that is not black and white, whereas people on the right tend to be like, it's not time for violence, it's not time for violence, kill everyone in the room.
tim pool
Look, Stephen Marsh, I think he's a good dude in the sense that he's willing to come and have a conversation, but I think he's a bad dude.
With all due respect, because he said he believes children should have access to these adult material books.
ian crossland
Oh, I wish I was there with you guys.
tim pool
And he doesn't care.
He doesn't care.
He says morality means nothing to me, and I said that's the problem right there.
You have moral people who decide, for logical reasons, some things are off limits.
Why?
Well, the people who are exposed to twisted content and twisted practices end up becoming very, very unhappy.
We're trying to reduce self-harm, reduce depression, maximize productivity and happiness.
lauren southern
This is very well recorded.
You can look at if porn is exposed to boys at very young ages, they tend to go for more and more extreme things as they age to the point where They have normalized violence against the other gender, because that's the only thing that can get them off now.
And this is very well studied.
Anyone can look it up.
And yeah, it totally has to do, particularly with exposure at young ages, where you don't really have that decision-making skill, prefrontal cortex, totally developed yet.
ian crossland
That's actually when we were talking about the news media trying to protect, like, the guy who punched the dude that died.
And it's like, I can see that, I think that their idea is, I don't want to expose society to the fact that it was a Palestinian guy, or a guy that was pro-Palestine punching a guy that was pro-Israel, because they don't want to, like, twist the minds of the people, but I...
phil labonte
I think that's cover because if you I've talked about this guy Herbert Marcuse before on the on the podcast he wrote a paper in the 60s.
lauren southern
The One Dimensional Man?
phil labonte
He wrote the book called One Dimensional Man but he wrote a paper an essay called that I believe he called it on tolerance but it was essentially it was called repressive tolerance and the argument that he made in it was if it is left-wing it is acceptable to be violent And that it is OK because you're doing it for a good reason.
That's the long and short of it.
It's ridiculous and it's childlike.
But it's also the type of mindset that you see coming from the left.
You see it in the media when they don't talk about things that the left does or they talk them down.
it's not that big of a deal and yet if the right's the and one of the things that he said is you
should censor people on the right at the level of thought if you can control people's thoughts
then they will not carry out violence and it like i said it's called the the uh the the paper's called
um on toleration on uh right repressive tolerance It's worth a read.
It's not very long.
But it really does lay out the type of logic that leftists tend to be using when they apply to everything.
And you see it in society now.
lauren southern
It's amazing how they can create life-or-death situations out of everything.
You know, you say it's a knob, but I'll notice with leftists, they'll be like, you're trying to kill trans children, and that'll be what they're saying in their rallies, and this is why we have to have these extreme responses.
And I'm like, holy, if you spent one second In the body of just a 19-year-old white kid at university experiencing their life, you would become a Nazi overnight.
You'd be like, the oppression I am facing.
It's like nothing!
It's not comparable!
You have the corporations, the banks, the government, the media, all these people on your side, and you still think it's a life-or-death oppression situation?
Imagine having none of that!
tim pool
In the documentary, Infringed.
We're going to keep plugging it because we want you to watch it.
You talk to a guy in Berkeley.
You're going around asking people at Berkeley, do they want to ban guns?
And then you finally meet one guy who's like, no.
And then he says he's a gay Republican.
And then you're like, do you feel safe?
And he's like, well, you know.
Yeah.
Kind of not really.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
I got some questions about Infringed.
Maybe you guys can answer them for me since you did it.
How many guns did you fire over the course of the shooting?
That's a funny word, shooting.
Isn't that a weird metaphor?
unidentified
Filming!
Shooting the movie.
lauren southern
How many guns did we shoot?
Well, shooting.
What's your round count?
I can't count.
The most guns would have been at the Astronaut Cum Ranch.
unidentified
What?
Cum Ranch.
What?
What?
Sounds intriguing.
ian crossland
Tell me more.
unidentified
That's one hell of a tangent, Lauren.
lauren southern
I guess the shooting range that Brandon and Cody go and shoot at was actually like a NASA training facility or something, and they had astronauts... Yeah, it's not at the range, it's close by.
They've got like a... I don't know if this is supposed to be secret.
unidentified
Is it supposed to be secret?
I don't know.
lauren southern
I'm so sorry if I... No, no, I did publish a bit of that.
ian crossland
This is Brandon Herrera and Cody Wilson?
lauren southern
They assume that the astronauts were up to no good while they were there, so they call it that.
tim pool
Oh, that's funny.
ian crossland
So how many total weapons do you think you sampled?
unidentified
Don't take a blacklight in there.
ian crossland
Or do!
I mean, let's talk about it.
tim pool
We'll say that one for the numbers only.
lauren southern
At least a couple dozen.
Maybe more.
unidentified
30, 40.
lauren southern
Well, I was shooting in Canada as well.
And then we were shooting in St.
Louis.
I mean, yeah, you're probably right.
It's probably like a couple dozen.
unidentified
Yeah, we shot like maybe four or five in Virginia, and then at the ranch in San Antonio, maybe ten.
lauren southern
Really?
I'm hyping things up in my head.
Woman moment.
unidentified
Thing is, they were high caliber guns as well.
lauren southern
It was very exciting.
unidentified
There was an anti-aircraft weapon that we fired, which was- Anti-air?
tim pool
Was that 50 BMG?
lauren southern
I think it's there's only like eight of them in existence.
They're to shoot helicopters, but you can hold them standing.
tim pool
I was like, yeah, that was really fun.
I don't know.
What was that?
I think Brandon had it.
It was a shoulder.
I don't know about guns.
It was like a bullpup 50 BMG that he had mounted on his shoulder and was firing.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
lauren southern
We both got to shoot that.
That was like really crazy.
unidentified
And also Hitler's buzzsaw.
lauren southern
Hitler's buzzsaw.
ian crossland
MG42.
unidentified
It was very popular amongst the Germans.
lauren southern
And then it like gave me this really bad rash on my arm.
Hitler's Hickey.
Hitler's Hickey is what we called it!
ian crossland
That was the MG42?
The Hickey?
You guys called it the Hickey?
No, that's the MG42.
So why do they call it the Hitler's Buzz?
Is that because the dude's super fast?
unidentified
So it's the same gun that the Nazis used in World War II.
It was just a different round back then, so now it's been changed to a NATO round.
But yeah, you know, it's the same gun otherwise.
I mean, it's super rapid fire.
ian crossland
Like in Band of Brothers where they're like attacking machine gunners, like that's the gun, the MG is the one for you.
lauren southern
It's like a massage.
Your whole body is like shaking.
tim pool
It's bizarre.
I will just say real quick.
You can watch the full documentary on TimCast.com.
We hope you do for several reasons.
We want to do more.
And if we can, at the very least, break even, we have the money then to do another one.
But we're also putting a ridiculous amount of money in marketing.
So just understand this.
Even if you don't want to watch a documentary, just as long as you know.
We got an ad up on Twitter.
I put up a clip, a trailer for it.
I put $50,000 behind it.
It's not just about getting people to watch a documentary, getting new memberships, making more documentaries.
The ads themselves are activism.
If we can make a lot of money off this documentary and put out advertisements that effectively advocate for gun rights and normalize gun safety and gun culture, we are winning the culture war.
So we want to do more of this.
We got a whole bunch more plans.
So definitely check out the documentary and become a member.
Don't miss it.
But I am going to hard segue now to talk about politics here, and then we can talk a bit more about that when we go to the Members Only show.
We got this story.
I love it.
We got good news on the horizon, my friends.
When you see a headline like this, Black Lives Matter leader endorses Trump for 2024 election.
Says the Democratic Party is a racist party that strikes at the heart of the black family and the nuclear family.
So this is a guy who helped found a Rhode Island, the Rhode Island BLM chapter.
Who is now advocating for the rights of J6 protesters and says Trump is the best candidate we have.
Donald Trump is also leading Joe Biden in five of six swing states.
So, as of right now, it's looking like Donald Trump's gonna win.
ian crossland
For my polling of my friends, which is not that many people, but they're kind of normie.
It's like Biden's old, man.
That's what, even the people that voted for him are like, this guy's just too old.
unidentified
Well, he sucks too.
ian crossland
Yeah, but they don't want old people.
He didn't want old people.
They don't want old people, which is also like his same argument for Trump.
Like he's too old.
We need new blood.
We do!
lauren southern
Have you seen the comparison?
I've ranted about this multiple times on this show, but how old the politicians are now compared to the normalcy, like, before the millennial era?
How about the founding fathers?
unidentified
Do we want millennial and Gen Z politicians, though?
tim pool
It's all boomers!
lauren southern
They have no ties to the current struggles young people are going through.
ian crossland
It's insane!
unidentified
I totally get that, but I mean, just, you know, incompetence levels, right?
tim pool
Yeah, Vivek's 38.
He's a millennial.
lauren southern
Well, perhaps part of the incompetence that has come from Millennials and Zoomers is that none of the individuals older than them are retiring and giving them the power.
tim pool
I think it is the childification of humanity.
People are staying as permanent children.
So when I see these videos where it's like, adulting, it's so hard.
It's like, if you're someone who constantly looks to the older generation as if they're in charge, instead of looking to yourself as someone who needs to take charge, you will get this phenomenon.
lauren southern
You know who's more terrifying to me than someone who wants to perpetually be a child?
And there is something terrifying about that.
Is someone who never wants to retire.
If you never want to retire and you want to hold on to power forever, there's something deeply... But you can primary these people.
tim pool
The problem is they're running effectively unopposed.
And young people aren't trying.
Because what I see happening is that... They aren't even given the shot, they aren't given the resources.
It's not about being given a shot, you have to just do it!
unidentified
My point is, every generation sucks right now, except maybe Gen X, but they just don't care.
Every generation sucks, but boomers had like, what, 20% of the wealth at the age of Zoomers and Millennials, and we've got like, what, I totally agree and the boomers have a lot of blame to shoulder for this but I mean it doesn't change the fact that you know the Millennials are not really capable of governing as a generation I don't mean like you have your you have your exceptions like you know
lauren southern
I think you're selling millennials short.
tim pool
I don't blame boomers for having wealth.
I blame boomers for not educating younger generations.
lauren southern
This is nonsense.
It's all lies.
I disagree with everyone here.
If only millennials voted in Canada, we would have a conservative majority government.
Boomers are more likely to vote for liberals than millennials in Canada.
There is so much propaganda going against the younger generation from boomers that want to hold on to power.
And there are good boomers.
I love you guys.
Don't don't worry.
But there's a lot of bad ones that have a lot of power.
tim pool
Right, so I'm talking about the United States.
Right?
lauren southern
I'd have to look at the data here, obviously I'm Canadian, but there's a lot of propaganda against the younger generations.
tim pool
Millennials are looking at boomers as if they're always in charge.
Instead of, for whatever reason, like, in my life, I've had disdain for everyone older than me all the time.
Just like, it didn't matter who you were.
Teacher, you're awful, you're stupid, I'm 12 and I'm smarter than you.
Even though I know I'm really not.
I don't care.
You're dumb, I'm smart, you don't get it.
So I get older, I'm like, I've gotta, I've got, look, they're doing it wrong, I can't stand this, I'm gonna go do it.
But millennials tend to be like, well, they're the one who's the senator, they're the one in charge, I can't do it.
It's not that no millennial is doing it, it's that millennials in general have this tendency towards assuming The older generation are the ones who are supposed to do it, not them.
unidentified
And I'm talking in general, like you always have your exceptions, right?
lauren southern
Yeah, I do think there is a kind of sense of giving up amongst young generations.
They're like, the economy is so bad, the world is kind of down spiral.
tim pool
And they just kind of, yeah, they've given it, okay, you guys can do... No, no, I'm saying like when you're a child, you ask your parents for permission.
Millennials still have that mentality, that they need to ask the boomers for permission.
I'm like, as soon as you turn 18, you're in charge.
And you look the boomer in the eye and say, shut your mouth.
I'm the boss now.
Start mopping the floors.
lauren southern
Yeah, but they have all of the money.
They have all of the finances.
tim pool
Most of them.
So listen, with all due respect to boomers, one of the biggest tropes was that boomers didn't understand computers.
And they would hire these young people to come in and pay them a certain amount of money to fix computers.
The money is available to those who seek to exploit an open marketplace.
But millennials are permanent children.
Instead of, instead of seeking to take over, start companies, too many Millennials are like, tell me what to do, daddy.
unidentified
Well, you know what?
Boomers were, boomers were helicopter parents.
phil labonte
Can't you, I'm just gonna say, can't you blame that on, on boomers as well?
tim pool
That's what I'm saying.
Boomers did awesome stuff, and I actually think boomers are great.
I think boomers are more based than the millennial generation.
But it is the boomers who helped create millennials, and created the culture, and generated the next generation.
Gen X is actually probably the best, and the reason why Gen X gets overlooked in all the arguments is because they're doing fine.
ian crossland
X had a great opportunity.
tim pool
Everyone's like, everyone forgets about Gen X, we're here to talk about boomers and millennials.
No, it's because Gen X is doing alright.
ian crossland
X was around before the internet and like teenagers when it got created so they saw what it was like before this mass manipulation took over and they know that it can be like that.
The boomers never really understood the internet and people who were born with the internet as a normality don't understand that you can live without this manipulation and you can use it to your advantage.
tim pool
Well, hold on, look.
Millennials mostly did not.
get born into the internet.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
So, I had the internet since I was, as long as I can remember, like my family had the internet in the 80s.
So we had CompuServe, we had DOS Shell, all that stuff.
Windows 3.1 and even before that, whatever.
And so I grew up quite literally and it was always there.
Most of my friends did not get the internet until they were teenagers.
Gen Z, however, I think is actually much more based than millennials.
Though Gen Z has its issues, for sure.
We can highlight all the weird woke Gen Z. Gen Z actually, according to Pew, I think this was 2018, slightly more conservative in a few areas.
So they're comparable to Millennials, but a little bit more based.
And I think it may be because many of these people, growing up with the internet, always more so have a view, maybe that you and I do, that it's a propaganda, garbage, fake reality.
Screw them.
ian crossland
I think one of the things that's really important, which is kind of what you guys are saying, is that the generalizations aren't fair.
Because there are some brilliant, magnificent leaders within every generation.
And for a kid right now, or a human that was born in like 1990, to hear us say, people in your generation are lazy, they're going to be like, I'm lazy because they listen to us and they believe what we say.
And there's some great leaders.
tim pool
Yeah, but hold on, be smart.
We're not saying literally everyone.
We're saying there is a tendency among certain generations to have a higher proportion of certain types.
ian crossland
And we've got to figure out why.
unidentified
If you're listening to this, you can be better.
Be better.
We need you to be better.
lauren southern
Be better, but we also need to be aware of what the time is like.
Tim, you're an anomaly.
You're very successful, very talented on your own, but most people need support systems that are really strong.
I'm talking like whole families, like Italian Sopranos style, like we've got our own law going on here.
Get out of this house.
I'm kicking you out.
for most of human history that people have had these clubs.
They've literally lived on the same properties with all of their extended families. And it was
really the boomer generation that kind of started this idea of get out of nuclear family, get out
of this house. I'm kicking you out. You're making it on your own. And of course, people are floundering.
This is actually a phenomenon in human history that people are being kicked out of their houses at 18 and not kind of handed a job from the dad, from the grandfather that they've been doing for ages and ages.
It's industrialization.
And the fact that they're a bit confused and asking for direction should not be a surprise.
tim pool
This is a good point.
It used to be, and it still is in a lot of ways.
I went to a maple farm.
We went to Pittsburgh two weeks ago.
On the way back, we stopped at this eighth generation maple farm.
We go inside.
There's like, when you go to the front door, the door is just open.
There's a sign saying, if you want to buy something, give us a call.
And I'm like, man, like in the country, right?
The store is open with no one inside it.
Just call us if you want to buy something.
They're very trusting.
Old guy comes in, plays a video about how they make maple syrup, showing like old photos from like the 1700s when they were like making maple syrup.
And he talks about how they had this farm going way back.
He got it from his dad who got it from his dad who's got it from his dad.
He brought his daughters in.
His daughters are taken over now.
And that's how it used to be.
And then industrialization happens.
You don't owe anything anymore.
And so when your kid gets older, you say, go find a job somewhere else instead of the dad being like, son, when you're old enough, this blacksmith's forge will be yours.
lauren southern
There is an incredible rant on this in the second episode of Fear and Loathing in the New Jerusalem by Martyr Maid.
I don't know if any of you guys have listened to the podcast, but it's very good.
And he talks about how if you ask a man at a random farm in the middle of nowhere in the Middle East who he is, he's Yeah.
to be able to tell you he knows exactly who he is. He knows who his family has been for thousands of
years. He knows what his identity is, what his job is. You are going to have a tough time
manipulating that man into absurd ideologies. Whereas if you ask someone, a modern suburbanite
in the city, who they are, what did he say? He said they don't need existentialist philosophers
there. They don't need these people asking who are we because they know we need those people here
because we are such a diaspora.
We are so spread out.
We are kicked out of our houses.
We don't know who our families are.
We don't know our history.
We don't have these lineages of jobs and we're very easily controllable because of that and very easily confused because of that.
You get offered a sense of identity in the realm of a new radical ideology every single day on Twitter, Instagram, YouTube.
You're going to be desperate for that because there is nothing you are latched onto in this world when you are kicked away from your family and the closest people you have are nuclear and there's nothing outside of that even.
It's a huge issue.
ian crossland
I noticed.
Go for it.
phil labonte
I just want to say that one of the things that you're seeing nowadays, or I think you're seeing nowadays, is the The fact that human societies don't get to have the option of not having religion.
So if your society has culture and religion that's built into it, then it's going to have, you know, it's going to have certain things that it does and everyone kind of knows how to be in the world, right?
If you don't have that, if you don't have religion, if that's taken away or you just abandon it, then you end up having society replace A religion that has foundations that works oftentimes with statism and that's what you saw that's what Nietzsche was talking about when he said you know God is dead that's what you saw in the Nazi in Nazi Germany that's what you saw in communist Russia and China and it's because
Religion has evolved with human beings, and I don't think that human beings on a societal level get the option of not having it.
If you don't have a traditional religion, your society will replace it with something.
And you see the bad things that happen when you go, when you try to replace What has worked for societies throughout history, when you see it replaced with new things and attempts at new things.
When Nietzsche said, God is dead, he wasn't saying that this is a good thing.
He didn't know what was going to happen.
He didn't know how people were going to replace it.
And he predicted the horrors of communism and Nazism.
unidentified
He knew that it was coming.
And we have killed him.
And now we're going to go downhill.
phil labonte
Yeah, one of the things that liberals, and I talk about progressives when I say liberals, I talk about progressives, one of the things that they tend to do frequently is talk about, oh, it's good that Nietzsche, you know, it's good that God is dead and we need to evolve beyond religion.
Evolution is the wrong word, first of all, because you don't evolve unless there's outside forces working on you.
unidentified
It's like human beings don't just change because... It's self-directed evolution.
Fair enough.
It's transhumanism and all this stuff.
phil labonte
It's shown that it doesn't work, though.
It doesn't work for human society.
It ends in piles and piles and piles of bodies all the time.
ian crossland
I was thinking, when someone is going to develop their sense of self, I can tell you what to believe, but you're going to need to tell me what you believe.
And that's what I've noticed about indoctrination, is you can tell people, people can go online and be told, this is what I'm supposed to be, this is what I'm supposed to be, but until they have an opportunity to express themselves, it's going to be challenging to develop themselves.
And this is why I like things like xSpaces, or opportunities where you throw up a video chat.
Or an audio chat, and people come in and get the mic, and then they express what they believe.
And it's like you're allowing people to develop themselves.
And we need more self... I mean, that's what a good parent will allow the kid to tell you what they are.
I think if you're constantly telling your kid what they're gonna be, what they are, it's like the brain can handle it, but you need the entire core system to experience, you know, the vibration of explaining what I am.
So more people.
unidentified
Yeah, it's the most basic act of creation is to speak, right?
Yeah.
It's like the story in Genesis, right?
God spoke the world into existence.
And, you know, we're made in the image of God, so we have that same kind of power, you know what I mean?
I believe that's what sets us apart.
And so, you know, when it comes to things like censorship, it is an attack on that divine image that you have because you're not expressing yourself.
ian crossland
That's it, man.
The word, it's cymatic.
There's, like, literally the vibration.
I'm into metamaterials for this.
Like, etching shape into your core, your DNA and things with your voice.
It's so important.
So, I encourage everybody out there to create spaces to let other people come express themselves in your presence.
tim pool
You better drink that.
lauren southern
I think Tim's gonna kill me.
tim pool
That $5,000 cognac is leaking through your paper cup.
unidentified
How much did you put in there?
No, the cognac is so strong it's eaten its way through the cup and it's stripping.
ian crossland
Does it taste like paper?
lauren southern
Yeah, I'm getting this nice paper flavor.
Tim has been looking at me like, literally, I've never seen someone so angry in a stare.
Like, jaggers for eyes.
tim pool
I would have just said, no, Lauren, don't.
phil labonte
There are glass cups over there.
lauren southern
Or maybe judgment.
tim pool
She's doing it on purpose because she got a bunch of people being like, no, when she was drinking Pappy, this expensive, what is it?
It's bourbon, I think, right?
lauren southern
You know, I actually like this.
This is the first really strong drink that I've been like, I actually don't mind that.
unidentified
You should just hold it up like this and let it drip into your mouth.
ian crossland
Think of it as a filter.
lauren southern
It's a coffee filter, my cognac filter.
Yeah, it's just dripping right out the corner there.
phil labonte
I imagine there would be whiskey purists that would have a coronary if they saw that.
tim pool
Well, they did.
lauren southern
That's what happened.
tim pool
How am I supposed to drink this?
It's supposed to be like an ounce in a glass.
Celebratory.
Very expensive.
There's like a dropper to make sure they don't miss a drop with it.
Okay, you can face me.
ian crossland
I'm gonna get some.
tim pool
We cracked this open when Elon Musk finally acquired Twitter before it was X. And we were like, huzzah!
You know, we celebrate.
Yeah, and we all cheers and had a little bit.
I don't think I had any, actually.
lauren southern
Shouldn't we be cheersing for the documentary?
tim pool
Cheersing.
lauren southern
Cheersing.
I'm a very cultured woman.
tim pool
But she was, uh... Lauren didn't know what Pappy was.
lauren southern
No.
tim pool
And so she just poured a paper cup like, I'm just gonna have whiskey or something.
And then people in chat were like, NOOOOO!
lauren southern
Yeah, it looks like someone had milk in there, for some reason.
ian crossland
There's white stuff in here, sir.
lauren southern
There's some white stuff in his drink.
phil labonte
So you know, remember the bus you showed me earlier?
The bus, yeah?
That's what I'm thinking when I see that cup.
lauren southern
Listen, those are my people.
phil labonte
It's perfect.
ian crossland
Hey guys, congratulations on the documentary, man.
lauren southern
Thank you!
ian crossland
I'm super excited to see this.
Maybe we can watch a snippet of it on the after show.
tim pool
We've got a bunch of trailers and clips and stuff.
We're gonna be putting clips up and everything.
Yeah, there's some people asking, like, why didn't you do, like, a big theatrical release and all that stuff, and it's like, yo, this is our second documentary, Game of Money being the first, also available on TimCast.com, and we're gonna be making more.
It would be really cool, in my opinion, if we had at least one every month tackling these issues, and we are dumping a ton of marketing behind them, and, uh...
We are discussing in the future, like, how do we do red carpet events?
How do we get, like, theatrical releases?
Police Day, Dinesh D'Souza's film, is in many theaters.
Wow.
Sound of Freedom was.
We could definitely pull it off, but we gotta get there.
We need your support.
Become a member!
ian crossland
Maybe if this one hits a benchmark, we could do a theatrical day, a release day.
lauren southern
Yeah, the next one.
tim pool
Just do, like, one showing or something.
I mean, yeah.
Honestly, we could, even though it's out on the website, we could still, like, rent a theater and do it.
unidentified
That's cool.
tim pool
We should just do it, maybe.
It might take a month, though.
But we could go to a local theatre and easily just ask them, like, hey, how much to rent the theatre and then we'll sell tickets to it.
We'd sell out, for sure.
That'd be great.
lauren southern
I think so.
I think that'd be awesome.
It's a really good, like, I remember driving by my local theatre and seeing Sound of Freedom playing and just getting this feeling of, wow, like, the culture's really changing.
Like, when you actually see it in everyone's face that you're driving by, like, something that is culturally not completely progressive left-wing, which seems to be everything in Canada all the time.
I bet.
Moralizing.
tim pool
I bet if we went to a local theater and said we want, like, Thursday, Friday, and Saturday, and, like, three showings each day, we'd sell out every single showing.
Because it's only a one-time thing.
People are gonna come from all over the area to come watch it.
phil labonte
Most of the time, you can rent out theaters for private functions anyways.
unidentified
Right.
phil labonte
You know?
So I think it'd be easy to do.
ian crossland
Somebody was saying to sell DVDs, too, that they'd buy one.
lauren southern
I usually do DVDs for all my documentaries and people like to buy them.
unidentified
There actually is a market for it.
lauren southern
Well, they assume everything's going to be censored and taken off the internet one day, which isn't entirely insane.
tim pool
Well, not just that, for people in Canada, you know, where they don't have internet way up north, or in Alaska.
lauren southern
Where we don't have, you know, actually we got to do it for VHS.
tim pool
Hey look, Canada's very close to you having to secretly slide a DVD under your jacket to somebody to share information because Trudeau's watching.
ian crossland
Do you guys ever go up to like the Yukon?
Is it the Yukon?
lauren southern
The Yukon.
No, I've never gone up that far.
ian crossland
That's like the frigid north or something?
lauren southern
I've gone pretty far up.
I like the snow.
I like the cold.
I love Canada.
That's why it's so hard for me to consider leaving, and everyone I know is considering leaving right now.
That's what Tucker's documentary was supposed to be on, the O'Canada one, that was cut before he was fired.
tim pool
Really?
lauren southern
All ready to go.
Beautiful documentary.
tim pool
So you're saying we're going to get a bunch of Canadians trying to illegally cross the border into America?
phil labonte
Who are the good ones?
lauren southern
A lot of them are trying to go to South America that I know.
It's like, it's actually El Salvador.
The majority of people that I know are discussing leaving the country right now.
And it's actually really, really tragic.
tim pool
Is it because Trudeau has a really creepy voice?
lauren southern
That's exactly it.
You nailed it.
tim pool
Oh, he's so annoying!
unidentified
Help!
lauren southern
Anytime you hear it on the radio, it's just like... I got that from Kevin McCarthy.
unidentified
No, I was going to say, he doesn't know how to man spread either.
ian crossland
He doesn't know how?
unidentified
He doesn't know how to man spread.
ian crossland
Like he does it wrong?
unidentified
He just doesn't do it.
ian crossland
Oh, he holds his knees together?
lauren southern
He holds his knees together as tight as possible.
It's very upsetting.
unidentified
It's really odd to watch.
lauren southern
Have you not seen pictures?
Look up Trudeau sitting.
Just look up Trudeau sitting.
tim pool
Trudeau sitting?
phil labonte
It's like he's got a dime in between his knees and he's holding on to it.
lauren southern
Yeah!
phil labonte
It's, uh, 1800s birth control.
unidentified
Yeah!
lauren southern
There you go!
One of the photos.
tim pool
This one?
phil labonte
Cock chain.
unidentified
Yeah, that's the one right there.
lauren southern
No, there was a funny one.
unidentified
Trudeau sitting... That one with Trump right there.
lauren southern
No, there's a very special one.
phil labonte
The one with Trump is good, though.
tim pool
Which one?
lauren southern
Look up Trudeau sitting knees together, because there's a few of them.
I feel a little weird looking up with these search results.
Like that one on the left.
phil labonte
Look at him!
ian crossland
Wow, that's dangerous.
tim pool
So weird.
ian crossland
Petite.
lauren southern
Petite!
That's such a cute word.
tim pool
Wait, wait, hold on.
Hold on.
Here you go.
ian crossland
There he is.
That's the spread I saw.
But I looked up Trudeau manspreading.
I can't find one.
Let's see if Google has it.
tim pool
We got one right here.
There you go.
ian crossland
Oh, that's legit.
unidentified
Justin, I just want to say, you gotta learn how to manspread, man.
Things will go better for you if you can do that.
tim pool
Is it true that he's Fidel Castro's son?
unidentified
Absolutely.
100%.
tim pool
That's so wild.
People keep posting photos of him next to Fidel Castro.
lauren southern
I feel like I can leak this now, but a lot of the... maybe not.
But they did a proper investigation into it with the Tucker doc.
Really?
It was kind of like Mimi, but they did actually pursue that angle of looking into whether he was.
tim pool
And Fox News has it.
lauren southern
Fox News has it.
People, you need to pressure Fox News to release the O'Canada documentary.
It's incredible.
tim pool
Should we buy a commercial for Infringed on Fox News?
lauren southern
Absolutely.
tim pool
People hate Fox News, though.
I just feel like it would be a waste of money.
lauren southern
Well, you gotta save the people there.
Save them.
Bring them over to TimCast.
tim pool
I bet they would reject it for that reason.
ian crossland
Oh, this smells so good, by the way, dude.
lauren southern
You should do it just to see if they reject it.
And then if they reject it, that's an interesting story in itself.
tim pool
It was like, I think, $12,000 to advertise on Tucker Carlson.
But he was their biggest show.
So right now I think Jesse Watters gets like what, like seven to eight percent?
Is that what he's getting?
Like eight percent of what Tucker was getting?
lauren southern
How are their numbers today comparatively to when they had Tucker?
Let me check.
I'm really curious because I feel like I just forgot Fox News existed entirely and never even thought to do the comparison.
tim pool
Let's see, let's see.
I don't want to drag him.
I like Jesse Watters.
lauren southern
There are some good people still there.
tim pool
Fox News averaged $256,000 in the key demo.
So yeah, that's like half of what Tucker was getting.
So maybe it'll be like $6,000 to buy an ad on Jesse Watters' show or something like that.
ian crossland
So would you pay Tucker directly to shout it out for his ex-show now?
tim pool
Oh, well, he's got an exclusive deal with Public Square, I'm pretty sure.
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
Yeah.
ian crossland
Good deal.
tim pool
I think it's exclusive.
Public Square's awesome.
They're very based.
We love those guys.
They are winning the culture war.
But Fox, you just call them up.
It was actually super easy.
MSNBC never got back to me.
Because we wanted to do... We wanted our pillow.
What we wanted to do was a parody of MyPillow, where we sell burlap sacks full of styrofoam packing peanuts.
You pack it yourself.
And you pack it yourself, and it comes in a box with instructions on how to pour the peanuts into the burlap sack, and then sleep on it.
ian crossland
For the record, I think I found out what that white stuff was in the glass.
Soap.
Because it kind of tastes like soap.
And I know this stuff is soap here.
lauren southern
Yeah, sure, it's soap.
unidentified
That's the worst offense in the paper cup.
tim pool
Oh, I gotta go wash and get more.
I called Fox News, and they basically were like, A single 30-second spot on Tucker Carlson's like 12-something.
And so I reached out to MSNBC in the same way and they just ignored me.
unidentified
Interesting.
tim pool
I didn't say anything crazy at MSNBC.
I said I was looking to inquire advertising, you know, I reached out to their ad network and all that stuff and said, looking for rates, we're interested in advertising and they just never responded.
lauren southern
Can you advertise on the Young Turks?
tim pool
I don't know how they do it.
I do know that about 10 years ago I was talking to Cenk and I mentioned that we had tried doing some ad campaigns through YouTube on his channel and it did not work.
And he actually asked me to elaborate and the issue was YouTube suppression.
Like, why we were trying to promote a documentary or something, and I was like, let's put on a bunch of channels that are doing political content.
And then the data from ads on every other placement was good, but Young Turks was zero across the board.
And so I told him right away, I was like, hey man, we did this big thing, a bunch of channels, we saw like these CPMs and this cost on your channel, nothing, zeros across the board.
And I don't know why that is, because we should at least get something, right?
And he was like, Not that I think they'd be suppressing him these days.
That could be a reason why he's gone way more establishment.
Because he saw the writing on the wall maybe monetarily and got scared, I have no idea.
lauren southern
People really, you can like really mentally get trapped in this game of...
How far establishment do I go to save the political causes that I think are important so I can still talk about them and still get reach and like of course there's a balance there where you can't like go to jail and not be able to do any activism at all right that's that's pretty useless you can't run into machine gun fire but there are so many people that will keep making that trade that kind of signing away their soul to the devil until They've got points that are entirely in line with every single media industry, every single big corporation, every single government, you know, outlet.
And they kept making those trades for, oh, I need the eyes, I need the eyes.
And I think a lot of it comes from good intentions, I really do.
And then it's just too late.
tim pool
It looks like MSNBC is up 12% CNN is up 16% Fox News is down
Thirteen percent.
ian crossland
These are in the ratings?
tim pool
Yeah, CNN is up.
So MSNBC, CNN are up.
And Fox News is down.
ian crossland
Are they just up because Fox is down?
tim pool
No, Fox viewers didn't go to MSNBC.
Fox viewers left Fox News and they're watching shows like this one.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Or Crowder.
ian crossland
Yeah, them firing Tucker was the dumbest business decision they've made in the last decade that I've seen.
That was crazy.
tim pool
Amazing.
ian crossland
What in the hell?
lauren southern
Really weird.
tim pool
Yeah.
But that was because of the Dominion lawsuit, I guess, right?
They said that they had to... Part of it was they had to fire Tucker.
That's crazy, yo.
Well, we're gonna go to Super Chats, so if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button and head over to TimCast.com, click join us, become a member, check out the new documentary.
You don't want to miss it.
It's really, really awesome.
And we're gonna be reading our Super Chats.
Looks like we got some Super Chats cut off.
It's really annoying that YouTube did that.
They're cutting off like the first 10 minutes, but we'll read what we have.
Uh, Mark Jensen says, I always celebrate with Rittenhouse Whiskey.
ian crossland
Ah, yes, yes.
Is that a real whiskey?
lauren southern
Is that a thing?
tim pool
I believe it is.
ian crossland
Good for Kyle.
tim pool
Is he... It has nothing to do with Kyle.
ian crossland
Oh, that's so funny.
tim pool
That's just a name.
Alright, Andre Calderon says, Holy F, I just finished watching Infringed and you all did an amazing job.
Such a nice documentary.
Lauren Southern was perfect.
I encourage everybody to watch it.
Very important issue for the future.
And, uh, you know, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna, you know, hide behind anything.
Lauren outright says that I'm gonna go buy guns now.
So it's like, it is not like a- We're trying to be fair about the issues of gun- No, no, no, we are, we are advocates.
lauren southern
Unfortunately, I only thought afterwards that we should have had, like, the sponsorship logos go up at the end.
Could have paid for the dog that way.
No, but it's not sponsored by anyone.
tim pool
You guys, the viewer.
The viewers like you helped us fund this tremendous documentary.
All right, we're gonna read some more.
Mike Oxart says, just got back from voting in New Jersey.
The reading machines got jammed, so they had us wait half an hour just to put them in a bin to be hand counted.
Not sure what to make of that, but there you go.
Polly Puree, nine minutes into the show said, fabulous show tonight.
I know, thank you very much.
ian crossland
Thank you, Polly.
tim pool
The Sig P says, Tim, might you consider having the armed scholar on to talk about 2A advocacy?
If Colleen Noir is unavailable, he's a based CA attorney with a YouTube channel dictating the 2A
landscape in real time and works with the with FPC and GOA.
I think that would be really great for the Culture War podcast. We tried to reach out to Colin
lauren southern
for the documentary. I just I can't remember what happened there. I don't know if there was any.
tim pool
He's a busy guy.
lauren southern
Yeah, he is.
tim pool
He's got a standing invite to come on whenever he can, and we've talked to him back and forth, but I respect.
lauren southern
Yeah, absolutely.
We wouldn't have reached out if we didn't respect.
phil labonte
Another person that, if you're interested in two-way stuff, there's the Four Boxes Diner YouTube channel.
tim pool
Yeah, I think people were shouting them out yesterday.
phil labonte
He's worked with the Supreme Court.
He's argued cases before the Supreme Court.
He's a very good resource.
tim pool
Alright, Citizen7 says, I've asked this before and I'll ask it again.
Freeing the source code sounds all well and good, but how is it possible to verify the software in the machines was compiled from the source code that was made public?
Ooh, he got you there, Ian!
He got you!
ian crossland
You could put it on video of them taking the machine, downloading the data onto a hard drive on a monitor while it's downloading and have it all publicly streaming.
unidentified
It's AI, though.
ian crossland
What's AI?
tim pool
You'd have to do that for every single machine.
ian crossland
Yep.
Well, let's just start by, uh, I don't know.
That's a good question.
Let's, let's get a, let's get a developer in here and ask them the same question.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
We got Jason Hutchinson.
It says my rights, my property is not up for a vote.
Find me a politician that supports that and I'll vote.
That is absolutely right.
Michael Mao says it.
My rights are not up for a vote.
Agreed.
Michelle Riddle says, blame Canada.
Shame on Canada.
Shame on Canada!
Shame on you guys.
I like Canada.
unidentified
I love Canada.
What's really funny is that Infringe is actually a Canadian film.
lauren southern
So true.
Blame us for saving your gun rights.
unidentified
That's right.
tim pool
We had to outsource to Canadians a documentary to protect the rights of Americans.
lauren southern
We understand what it's like to be mauled by a bear because you can't own guns on national parks.
That actually happened two months ago.
tim pool
American gun owners are going to be like, Tim Kast outsourced good American-paying filmmaking jobs to these Canadians.
ian crossland
The reality is we're all Americans.
North Americans.
lauren southern
So true, Cam.
unidentified
There you go.
ian crossland
Yeah.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
The Dude Abide says, hey, don't be trying to brag about 1812.
Y'all got real quiet when Colonel Jackson took a little trip down the Mississippi.
We almost took Montreal in the War of 1812.
ian crossland
Why did they stop short?
What happened?
tim pool
We're taking Montreal?
Because the British burned down the White House.
unidentified
Yeah, you know, the Canadians actually moved their capital, it used to be in Kingston, Ontario, which is a lot closer to the border, and they got scared and they moved it to Ottawa because, you know, the blue coats were coming.
tim pool
Yeah, no, it was like, I think, I guess, and during the Civil War too, wasn't it like, I think we talked about this with Stephen Marsh, during the Civil War, the Union was like, guys, Why don't we just take Canada where we're at it?
For real, yeah.
And also, the US took Mexico.
People don't know this.
And then Pol- gave it back.
And Americans were pissed.
They were like, wait, what?
Why did you give back Mexico?
It was ours.
Like, this country would have been massive.
lauren southern
We wouldn't need a wall.
We wouldn't be having this conversation.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Alright, Neglectful Sausage has checked 1,000 currents.
It's got left-wing radicals on the board in supporting it.
The Thousand Talents campaign is Chinese, so what's 1,000 currents?
Isn't that, uh, what's 1,000 currents?
Is that Chuck Yeager's thing?
Was that what that was?
lauren southern
1,000 currents?
I don't know what 1,000 currents is.
ian crossland
Bold solutions for climate, food, and economic justice.
unidentified
That sounds awful.
ian crossland
It's too bad, because those things would be cool if they didn't get co-opted.
tim pool
I just want to say this right now.
So, uh, you know, Brandon Herrera tweets out, he ex-posts, check out the documentary and links to it, and a shout-out, really do appreciate it.
And then someone responds to it, I'm not paying for that, tell TimCast to upload it to YouTube.
And I was just, I'm sitting here waiting for someone to say it, because I know they're going to, and I'm like, I got you!
And then I immediately call him a communist.
I'm like, I got him!
I was waiting for someone to say, just make it free, because they did that the Daily Wire.
The Daily Wire puts out one of the most important documentaries ever, takes the country by storm, the world, what is a woman?
And all these people are like, give it to us for free, it's important, give it for free.
And they're like, yo, it costs us a ridiculous amount of money to make this.
All the crazy work, all the employees.
And so...
It's funny that, you know, here we are, supposedly the capitalists, and there are people saying that we should give it away for free.
Okay, let me just say something.
I believe in the cause.
In order for the cause to succeed, the cause needs resources.
If we want to make more documentaries, we need money.
If we spend six figures producing a documentary, and then don't get any of that money back, we can't make another one because we don't have money.
Like, you gotta pay for a pilot ticket.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
I like to eat.
Eating is fun.
I like to feed my kids.
lauren southern
Very true.
I did this for years.
I did my first three documentaries and published them all for free.
And there's a reason I'm here now working with Tim and not still publishing documentaries for free, because guess what?
I don't make any money to make new documentaries when I publish them for free.
So I'm actually really thankful.
I wouldn't be able to make another one if I didn't have The funding, the resources.
tim pool
And so here's what I'm saying.
Not only did it cost a lot of money to make, but we want to market it, too.
We want to blast this off.
We want it all over Facebook, all over YouTube.
I want some regular, like, 24-year-old dude playing video games to open YouTube and get a commercial for Infringed.
And then to see, like, Lauren laughing and hanging out with the guys, and they're talking about gun rights, safety, and two-way, all that stuff.
We want to make it ubiquitous and common that Americans are all about this.
We want to make it popular.
The other thing is, these YouTubers, they're gonna see a big spike in their revenue, and they're gonna be like, oh, what's this all about?
And it's gonna be like, oh, you've got commercials for this documentary, and they're gonna say, oh, wow, bread and butter, baby.
If we run these commercials, we make money.
ian crossland
Can I select to have that ad run on my videos?
lauren southern
I like this ad.
Usually it's just got an, I don't like this ad option.
tim pool
Yeah, we as the advertiser choose where to put it.
ian crossland
Put them on my videos.
tim pool
We just, we put them on, we're going to put them up everywhere.
YouTube was a lot harder.
It took like, I don't know, eight hours to get approved, which is like fairly normal.
On X, it was like five seconds.
I was like promote and it was like under review.
And then I got an email being like, yeah, you're good.
lauren southern
Yeah, and you know, if you have friends that aren't the kind of person that are going to pay for a documentary like this, have a little viewing party.
Get a TimCast membership, invite your friend over, make some popcorn, watch the movie with them.
It's a great movie to watch with people.
Start discussions.
It's really difficult sometimes to make movies that are really highly data, history-filled, entertaining, but we went on the ground.
We shot the guns.
We went to Baltimore.
We went to these places.
We keep it dynamic.
tim pool
I hope we make at least 2x our costs back.
I hope we get 100% or like a 50% margin, I guess you'd say.
Then we'll make two documentaries.
unidentified
Right?
tim pool
That's what I'm saying.
If we, you know, spend all this money and make back two times the money, we'll make two more documentaries.
And then we'll make four more documentaries, and we'll keep just building content, making shows, and doing awesome stuff.
ian crossland
One of the things I liked about the Infringed, uh, I saw the trailer, was that it seemed kind of non-partisan.
Like, it started off this particular trailer explaining, like, gun violence, and how horrible it is.
And then it showed, like, you know, the antidote, and, like, actually self-defense can help you defend yourself against gun violence.
And I thought, that's just a brilliant way to look at it.
lauren southern
Yeah, you don't, like, you don't have to deny that there are horrible things that can be done with guns.
You don't have to deny that there are negative sides to it to talk about why you need a right to them.
Like, the best arguments are one that acknowledge all sides and still say this argument comes out stronger, right?
In my opinion, anyway.
tim pool
Let's read some more.
We got Legama.
Who says, if you get scam calls or texts or whatsapps, respond with a text including things like Tiananmen Square, Taiwan Independence, and other forfeited terms on the Chinese internet.
You will have your scammer s-ing his pants and also force Chinese intel to look into it.
It also may result in them stop calling you.
The problem is a lot of these calls are robocalls, but if you're getting messages I suppose that makes sense.
lauren southern
Oh, I wanted to mention as well, Infringed can be a drinking game as well.
If you want to watch it every time someone fires a gun, you take a shot.
tim pool
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.
lauren southern
And when it's a machine gun.
tim pool
Consult a doctor before getting drunk.
ian crossland
You'll be drinking so much, they'll probably tell you not to.
phil labonte
Make sure your heart can take that kind of activity.
tim pool
E.W.
says, Tim, I would love to be able to buy a hard copy of Infringed.
I have purchased all of Lauren's documentaries on DVD.
The one I would really, this one I would really like on DVD.
Okay, we'll figure it out.
Let's get it.
lauren southern
Who is that?
tim pool
E.W.
Superchat.
Then we will start looking into it.
I'll have to send a message to somebody, but we'll see if we can figure this one out.
And maybe we'll just start like burning DVDs and then mailing them out in like sleeves, just like hand sharpied, infringed.
lauren southern
That would be cool.
That's a really great marketing idea.
tim pool
If you wrote infringed on all of them, then it's like hand signed by you.
lauren southern
I have the worst handwriting ever.
tim pool
How's that?
lauren southern
Ten-year-old boy that's dyslexic.
ian crossland
Tell me more.
lauren southern
All right.
unidentified
Ian!
ian crossland
I print everything personally.
I don't use cursive.
That was when I realized the school system was bonk in fourth grade when they're like, you have to write this in cursive.
And I just stopped and I just started printing and they never said anything about it.
I was like, oh, I own these guys.
tim pool
Amanda says, a big reason Canada did not join the Founding Fathers in the Revolutionary War was because there were many French Canadians who were Catholic.
The U.S.
was mainly Protestants who hated Catholics.
unidentified
Right, right, yeah.
Wow.
Yeah, there's a big French influence in Canada.
tim pool
I love the language police, it's so hilarious.
They're like, our culture is dying!
Doom92 says, Tim, you're not showing up on my sub.
I had to look for you.
Yup!
That's the way it goes, man.
That's the way it goes.
They're trying to suppress us.
One thing that happens, and many of you may notice this, when we go live, there will be no thumbnail.
Of course, we make thumbnails every time.
And as we're producing the livestream, we put the thumbnail in it.
And then a bunch of people will be like, the thumbnail is a grey box.
Uh-huh.
And I don't see that happening to literally anybody else.
But what happens is, when people are on the front page and they're scrolling, and it appears there, and then people are looking for the image and they don't see it, they don't click it, or someone who doesn't know what the show is might see the thumbnail as interesting, What happens then is they can say, it of course appeared on the front page, it only got a few clicks though.
They're playing dirty games.
ian crossland
I heard that if you post more than four videos a day on a channel, they stop notifying you for the fifth one beyond.
So if we put up four clips, that could be the issue.
tim pool
It's not about notifications, it's that some people can't even see the video.
Like, we'll go live and it'll be on our channel, and they'll go to the channel and it's not there.
And so they'll have to look for the direct URL posted by somebody else.
One person superchatted saying that my friend had to share the URL with me so I could watch it because it wasn't appearing on YouTube.
serge du preez
People are going to their actual live tab itself on the channel and don't find anything.
It's happening to me as well.
tim pool
Crazy.
I'm wondering if we should just start dumping tons of money into placing the podcast on places just because, you know, it's like... Yeah.
phil labonte
All right.
tim pool
Fred Kohler says, Lauren, sweet Canadian, move to South Omaha instead.
We have grapefruit and bacon and all wear baseball hats made from graphene.
Love ya.
lauren southern
That sounds great.
I really like the cold, though.
I'm a big fan of the cold.
unidentified
What?
ian crossland
That's what he was saying, too.
lauren southern
I don't get it.
unidentified
I like snow.
lauren southern
I like having a big fire.
I prefer to get cozy and have, like, a hot drink than be sitting in front of a fan.
ian crossland
I love sweating.
tim pool
Louis Vasquez says, I signed up for the Miami event.
It was great.
Will watch Infringed tonight.
Any news on the Apple version of the Timcast app?
Would love to see the members' shows in my TV.
Thank you.
Apple takes forever!
The app is done.
It is in the hands of Apple.
The Android app is currently available for download.
You can download the Timcast Android app right now and read articles and watch all the news and everything.
ian crossland
It's fast, too.
I love it.
tim pool
It's a good app!
You can put the show on and then you can turn the display off and still listen to it and all that good stuff.
Here we go.
John Sarasanguinis says, 2 million gun owners in the state, 350,000 couldn't be bothered to sign a ballot initiative or come out to vote.
Gun owners are a joke, dude.
Gun owner doesn't mean gun rights activist or even conservative or libertarian.
There are woke liberals who bought guns and then turned the TV on to the Simpsons and didn't watch anything political.
They don't know, they don't care.
The funny thing is, When the US government changes laws, especially gun laws, without telling anybody, one day there's going to be a knock on their door and they're going to be like, we see in the gun registry that you're an owner of an AR-15.
Well, that's an illegal ATF controlled weapon and you are now a felon.
And they're going to be like, huh?
ian crossland
But I don't watch the news.
tim pool
Too bad.
phil labonte
I was literally telling the story about how that happened to me.
I got my first gun at 18 years old and I shot it a little bit and then it went under the bed because I spent the next 10 or 15 years in a van and in a bus touring and stuff and then I pulled it out when I was 15 years later or whatever and I realized oh my goodness I am not up to date on all the Actual legislation I had to go and do all kinds of jumping through the hoops and and when I initially got it all you had to have was an FID card and that was supposed to be good for life and they changed the rules so you have to stay up on those kind of things.
unidentified
The ATF, they use back doors on websites where you buy things for your gun like accessories and so you are already probably on a list.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, I have NFA items.
unidentified
I've got silencers and shortbread or whatever, so I'm definitely on multiple lists.
lauren southern
Definitely saying that on Timcast is helping.
phil labonte
I put them up on Twitter and stuff.
I'm all above board.
I'm legit, so.
lauren southern
I always have this little dance where I'm like, ooh, I want to talk about these things because they're fun.
Should I?
Maybe?
I'm in Canada, though.
And it's like, you might as well go one or the other.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, I agree.
But, you know, it's like I said, I've been A pro-gun guy and put pictures up on Twitter and stuff forever.
ian crossland
You know how the government sent out that text countrywide about like, hey, we're just notifying you this is our emergency text thing.
Do you think that they should be mandated to do that for changes in laws?
phil labonte
No.
tim pool
Your phone would never stop ringing.
ian crossland
That's the problem.
lauren southern
Omnibus bill passed.
ian crossland
You're not sleeping all night.
Maybe you could opt into a number that they could text you on if you wanted updates on every law that gets changed.
phil labonte
There's not a benefit to them because anytime that you're in violation of a law or whatever, they can use that against you.
The government doesn't have a lot of desire for people to be aware of the laws and up to date on if they're breaking the law or not.
ian crossland
It's a benefit to me and I am the government.
We are the government, I should say.
We as the American people.
That is the goal.
That is the intention.
lauren southern
I'm Canadian, and that's so true.
We're your secret shadow government.
tim pool
Matt Kelly says, nice to see a guest who dresses formally on this show.
Thanks for representing the Canadian tuxedo.
Looking forward to watching the documentary.
ian crossland
That's a beautiful corduroy, by the way.
tim pool
No, that's the Canadian tuxedo.
unidentified
Yeah, that's the Canadian tuxedo, that's right.
I'm like, which one?
lauren southern
Both of us are dressed like bums.
Which one of us is it?
tim pool
It's almost.
You needed the denim shirt.
lauren southern
I did.
I have one, and I thought about bringing it, but...
phil labonte
I literally was going to wear a flannel today, but then I was like, Lauren's here and then she's going to think that I'm making fun of Canada.
unidentified
So I was like... Lauren, I did not look like a bum.
ian crossland
I hugged you earlier and it felt good.
That corduroy was nice.
lauren southern
I can't believe we let him in here.
That's really nice of you guys.
It's great that you're doing charity work.
ian crossland
Adrian Curry liked that.
tim pool
Let's grab some more Super Chats.
WootDoo4U says, I was put on SSRIs at 12 years old, institutionalized at 17, diagnosed bipolar with suicidal and homicidal tendencies.
I'm a gun owner.
However, I've had at least two feds try to get me to do a shooting.
None of this is a joke.
Yikes.
lauren southern
What?
phil labonte
Someone... Stay strong.
lauren southern
Someone check in on Buddy.
unidentified
Yeah, I mean, you could do a whole doc on the SSRIs and mass shootings, right?
I mean...
lauren southern
I remember, there are a lot of weird instances I've had, like, I remember the first time I went to Molenbeek, Brussels, and I was doing interviews, and this guy, this Muslim guy was talking to me, and he's like, I went to jail, I swear they tried to get me to do a terror, you know, incident, he's like, I promise, like, this is what happened, they were, like, torturing me, and I'm like, I can't prove this, so I can't publish this, but this is pretty wacky, man, like, I don't know why you'd come up to me and just start saying this.
I don't know, I know nothing.
unidentified
Well, yeah, you know, that sort of thing relates back to MKUltra in like the 50s and 60s.
And, you know, it's in their documents where they were saying, like, we want to develop a mind control system so we can actually have an asset commit an assassination.
Like, they admit that that was the goal.
And then, so then you have, you know, you have guys like Saran Saran who shot RFK saying that, you know, he was under mind control, you know.
lauren southern
Well, what's crazy is they've got technology to make it so that you can hear things, like hear voices, but only you can hear them in a room.
Like, have you seen that?
There's a viral video going around of a professor showing a classroom where he's got this speaker that's like a direct speaker that'll make it feel like you're hearing things.
And there have been shooters that have been like, the voice kept telling me to do this, the voice kept telling me to do this.
unidentified
This last shooter, like what, a week or two ago?
Robert Card?
There was something like he went into, you know... Oh yeah, the... Guy up in May.
Yeah, he had like those in-ear things because he had bad hearing or something.
I don't know if I'm messing this up, but... And he was saying that he was hearing voices, right?
phil labonte
Wow.
Yeah.
lauren southern
A lot of them are on SSRIs, too.
phil labonte
The original Night Stalker, too, was telling people that his dog was telling him... He was hearing his dog talk to him.
unidentified
That's so weird.
phil labonte
I think his name was Richard Ramirez.
tim pool
Here's a good one.
Jordan McClown says, Duty to retreat.
When you flee your house just to go break into your neighbor's house, they're required to leave.
That's how absurd it is.
Someone breaks into your house and you're like, ah, I'm forced to flee and then you break into your neighbor's house and you're like, I can stay here now.
lauren southern
I love that.
The duty of retreat chain effect where everyone has to move out of their house eventually because the person beside them.
tim pool
That is so dumb.
That is so dumb.
Do not break into houses, anyone, and move to states where you can defend yourself.
lauren southern
It's even better in Canada.
It has to be like a last effort mistake if you shoot someone.
So like, First of all, you have to accidentally unlock your gun, take the trigger lock off, then you have to accidentally find your ammo and, like, slip it into your gun, and then you have to accidentally, like, slip and fall into your gun and then shoot the guy because it was, like, the last resort.
tim pool
What is this?
AR says, half of Australia is without internet and phone service.
Banking and emergency phone service affecting 10 million.
The cause is unknown.
Is that true?
I want to look that up.
ian crossland
Yeah, what is it?
Australia?
unidentified
You know what's Australia?
Would not surprise me.
lauren southern
Australia phone service.
Australia isn't a real country.
ian crossland
This is six hours ago.
Optus outage leaves millions of Australians without mobile and internet.
Wait, Optus has changed the name of the article.
So some key services are, quote, gradually being restored after hours long outage affecting Australia.
That means that they're not restored if they're gradually restoring them right now without mobile and internet.
Wow.
lauren southern
Oh no.
The not real fake country that's upside down is having trouble with internet.
tim pool
Some wingnut says switch Alec Baldwin for James Woods.
phil labonte
Come on now.
tim pool
Yep.
If it was James Woods who pulled the gun, they'd be screaming, see?
Guns are bad.
It's his fault.
Crazy.
We'll grab some more.
We'll grab some more.
Terrence Mack says, Canadian here, just got my PAL.
I'm getting the hell out of Canada once I'm released from the army.
Canada's military is an absolute joke.
They're so desperate, they're getting permanent residents to join.
Shout out to Lauren.
lauren southern
The Canadian military are a joke.
tim pool
When all the Canadians quit, and the Canadian military is made up of non-citizens, they will enforce whatever law they're told to against anyone.
ian crossland
Dude, when they stomped on the trucker protest, that's like the heart of the country.
unidentified
Those are like the most hardcore Canadians.
lauren southern
I have some stuff I could say about the military after this podcast.
The Canadian military, all right.
Yeah, something else.
ian crossland
I would love to help reinvent the American military.
Canadian, United States, like really bring some patriotic super soldiers to the table.
phil labonte
Yeah.
unidentified
There's a lot to say, like she was just saying.
There's a lot to say about the military, the RCMP in Canada.
I mean, it's being hollowed out.
tim pool
Polly Puree says, boomers are 54 to 69.
The silent generation is 70 to 85.
It's the silent generation in charge, not the boomers.
That, you're referring to some members of Congress, a lot of the older ones, but a lot of industry is run by boomers.
The people who are CEOs.
lauren southern
Silent generation in charge, I rarely hear that take.
unidentified
I think Biden's silent generation.
tim pool
Trump and Biden.
lauren southern
No way, really?
ian crossland
Was it starting in 49 is when the boomers started?
tim pool
Yeah, I'm pretty sure Trump and Biden are both silent generation.
lauren southern
Wow.
tim pool
Yep.
lauren southern
Sleeper cell silent generation.
tim pool
That's right.
serge du preez
46.
ian crossland
So Trump's right on the cusp.
He was in 46, I think.
serge du preez
Putin, Xi, all of them are silent generation.
tim pool
The commander says, Tim, I have this theory.
Check my thinking on this.
Now that Michigan and Ohio have enshrined abortion in their constitutions, that means liberal single women will calm down and not vote in 2024, handing those states to Trump.
I don't even think that matters.
I think it's the economy, stupid.
unidentified
Right?
tim pool
The old famous saying.
People just want cheap gas, and their bread costs too much money.
That's it.
phil labonte
The inflation stuff is probably what's going to have the most effect on the most people because issue by issue, there's certain voting blocks that it matters to.
The economy hits everybody.
ian crossland
So cheap fuel.
tim pool
Let's do it.
ian crossland
These super chats are awesome, by the way.
tim pool
Yeah, let's grab some more super chats.
We can grab a few more.
What do we got?
What do we got?
467 Sprite says, Ayo from OC SoCal.
Also, yes, saw a zany granny.
What is that?
And the Freeway Pro Ukraine sticker and an anti-Trump bumper sticker.
I think the younger youth would be that red wave whiplash once the old heads phase out.
Maybe.
I don't know.
What do you think?
phil labonte
I'm not so sure.
I don't feel like the younger generations are actually more conservative.
I mean, I'd like to hope, but I'm not, I'm not super confident that there are more.
unidentified
It feels like Cope to me.
phil labonte
Yeah.
You know, I hope to be wrong.
Yeah.
tim pool
The Pew research from a few years ago was that Gen Z and millennials are almost the exact same, but Gen Z is like a percentage point to the right on some issues.
So, it could be a reversal.
All that really matters is that liberals don't have kids.
Is it?
And people are like, yeah, but they're indoctrinating your kids.
And it's like, yeah, but that can only go so far.
It doesn't matter.
unidentified
It's how they reproduce us through the school system and indoctrination.
But I mean, at some point it, you know, literally doesn't matter.
tim pool
And people are like, I know conservatives and their kids are totally woke left.
I'm like, yeah, that happens.
But it literally doesn't matter.
Like, you can only indoctrinate so much.
Which is why they're opening up the southern border, because they know it.
ian crossland
You can indoctrinate adults too, and then they'll indoctrinate their kids.
tim pool
Right.
Kevin O'Brien says, all they needed to do was let Trump win the 2020 election.
They would have had a year left of Trump at this point.
Now they will need to deal with him for another four years, lol.
And, uh, the revenge that he wants.
So, Trump's gonna go ham, baby!
Alright, what do we got?
Let's see!
Sir Alexanderful says, Hello Laura, Tim, and friends.
Canadian OG YouTube Toronto Dundas Street church pastor David Lynn has been denied re-entry to Australia after starting evangelizing church there.
unidentified
Interesting.
tim pool
Keith Lovell says, I don't want to run a country, state, or district.
I want to do my job and raise my kids.
You know, I'll tell you.
I love the movie The Patriot with Mel Gibson.
Because he keeps saying, no war, no war, no war.
I will not vote for war.
I'm going home.
And then the war comes to his house and kills his kids.
And then he's like, oh, woe is me.
And then he takes up arms and he goes and fights.
It's just a story though, you know?
unidentified
Same thing in Braveheart, man.
It's like Mel Gibson was trying to tell us.
You know, first he goes, I just want to raise my crops.
tim pool
Yeah, leave me alone, man.
Mind my own business.
And they're like, nah, we're gonna mess you up.
It's like, fine.
But that's the brutal thing.
That's why it's a good story.
It's like these are good men who are like, please, we do not want war and conflict.
The problem is, You know, you gotta hope for the best and prepare for the worst.
And if you're not prepared, it's a brutal movie.
But The Patriot with Mel Gibson, one of the best movies ever made.
unidentified
My favorite, by the way.
tim pool
Kenneth Hart says, Tim, stop it.
You're scaring Ian.
Look at him.
He's shaking right now.
Calm down, Ian.
ian crossland
Oh, was that in reference to me standing right behind Lauren?
Well, actually, I was kneeling right behind Lauren.
tim pool
I have no idea.
ian crossland
Maybe it's this wavy shirt just looks like I'm shaking.
tim pool
Dinglehopper says, shout out to Scott Pressler for joining us on the TimCast Discord last night.
Check out his app and his website, Early Vote Action.
Very cool.
Really awesome to have Scott Pressler hang out on the Discord server.
Bad Comedy says, Tim and Ian, I'm building a new 40K army.
Should I build and paint a Grey Knights Legion or Custodus?
What is that?
Do you know that one?
ian crossland
I don't know it.
I'm not super versed in Warhammer.
serge du preez
Custodes.
tim pool
Custodes?
serge du preez
Yeah.
tim pool
Love you guys and thank you for your work.
I have no idea.
ian crossland
I'm Eldar all the way.
Also, Tyranids, if you want to rock, get those Genestealers.
They're like the ant creatures that are psychic.
Those things are nasty.
tim pool
I will say, my favorite part of the Infringe documentary is when Carl Benjamin reads the Second Amendment.
It's like, we need a British guy to read the Second Amendment.
Because the assumption is the Founding Fathers sounded British, but they didn't.
lauren southern
I think it's so funny, because it's like, oh, we just got a random British guy, but he has the most distinguishable voice you've ever heard.
Like, there is no way you can not know it's him.
Everyone's seen a Sargon of Akkad video.
tim pool
Gravity says, don't make me hard, BuckBuck.
The documentary is very good.
It is very good!
lauren southern
Thank you.
tim pool
Adam Smith says, Gen X are the Zoomers' parents.
Mostly.
It comes and goes in waves.
There's some bleeding, uh, bleed over between generations.
But yes, Gen X made the Zoomers, which is why Gen Z is, I think Gen Z is, is more based than Millennials.
I think Millennials are the worst.
Yeah, boomersite!
Millennials are awful.
Gen X is aight, and Gen Z is aight.
lauren southern
Aren't you a millennial?
tim pool
Yes.
ian crossland
Oh, so you're hypercritical on your own generation.
tim pool
Yeah, you're a millennial too, aren't you?
lauren southern
I'm like the very end.
I'm hypercritical on X. I still speak Gen Z. I'm very early.
unidentified
I'm what they call an elder millennial.
So I'm, you know, it's... How old are you?
1984.
Oh, okay, right.
tim pool
Yep.
unidentified
So that's...
It's sort of like half Gen X, half Millennial.
I call those Xennials.
ian crossland
79 is the last year of X. So I don't identify with Gen X really.
I identify way more with the people that are born in the 80s.
tim pool
I'm a millennial and I think millennials are awful, but I'll tell you why.
So I have like a five-year head start on millennials.
My mom was homeschooling me before I started grade school.
I worked for my family's business when I was like 9 to 11 years old.
So I have a much... I was a few years ahead of everybody else in terms of working, having a job, being online, being involved in politics.
I was like 13 when I was reading political news and talking about all the stuff.
And so all the kids around me were not doing any of it.
So, you know, I'd probably have a closer to Gen X perspective based on that alone.
But I don't know, it's interesting.
It's just, it is what it is.
ian crossland
Get a job when you're 12.
That was very Gen X. Younger.
My mom made me do that.
Yeah.
tim pool
Alright everybody, smash the like button, subscribe to the channel, share the show with your friends.
Go to TimCast.com, click join us, become a member.
unidentified
Why?
tim pool
So you can watch Infringe, the new documentary, and also you can hang out in our members-only uncensored show coming up in a few minutes.
You don't want to miss it.
It's going to be spicy and not so family-friendly.
You can follow the show at TimCast IRL.
You can follow me personally at TimCast.
Lauren, do you want to shout anything out?
lauren southern
Yeah, I mean, I just wanted to shout out a huge thanks to everyone who helped with the Infringe documentary, Ed Powell, obviously, you did an amazing job, John, other John, my family, friends, loved ones who supported me through it all.
Thank you so much.
All of the people who support me on Subscribestar, not Patreon, because I'm banned from that.
unidentified
What she said, basically, you know, thank you to all who signed up and watched the doc.
That's how we can make more of this stuff and, you know, make a dent in the culture war.
ian crossland
I'm looking up your Subscribestar right now.
Phil, what were you going to say?
phil labonte
I am PhilThatRemains on X. I am PhilThatRemainsOfficial on Instagram.
The band is All That Remains.
You can follow us on Instagram.
Well, Instagram, yeah.
You can follow us on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon, Pandora, YouTube, you know, the Internet.
ian crossland
People want to go to yoursubscribestar.com slash Lauren-Southern.
lauren southern
Aw, thanks.
ian crossland
I support you there.
lauren southern
Thanks for coming, guys.
ian crossland
Oh, cool.
I'm Ian Crosland.
Thanks for the liquor.
It was delicious.
A little soapy, I think, but maybe it's just my imagination.
lauren southern
Mine was a little papery.
ian crossland
We're even.
lauren southern
Both making it happen.
ian crossland
Hey, follow me on the internet.
What's that, T?
tim pool
That's like a $100 ring of liquid on that post-it music poster.
ian crossland
It was cool.
It smelled like maple.
I liked it.
Maybe it was the Canadian in the room.
lauren southern
I've had the most unique, paper-flavored, expensive cognac anyone's ever had.
They're all doing it the boring way.
ian crossland
I interviewed a dude on my YouTube channel today, Yehesh Tzkel.
God, I can't get your name right, man.
Yehesh Tzkel.
lauren southern
You got this.
ian crossland
Dude, he's the best.
Go check it out.
We talked about reusing spent nuclear fuel.
He's a rabbi.
You guys are going to love this conversation.
So subscribe to me on YouTube.
Follow me there.
serge du preez
That sounds sick, dude.
Nuclear fuel reusing with the rabbi and Ian.
lauren southern
Can you guys end by speaking some of your native tongue?
It sounds so fun, they made it up.
serge du preez
Anyways, yeah, let's go to the after show.
tim pool
We'll see you all over at TimCast.com in about a minute.
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