Nov. 3, 2023 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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| So, Joe Biden has rejected a meeting with Democrats who are concerned over what's happening | ||
| on the border. | ||
| At the same time, we've got news that CBP apprehended an actual terrorist suspect and released him. | ||
| And now we've got information that ICE has arrested the individual, but it's kind of insane that that could even happen. | ||
| How is it happening? | ||
| Well, we've got a viral video where it appears, it's been reported, the federal government has deployed a backloader to lift up razor wire to allow illegal immigrants to flood into the southern border. | ||
| And it's just insult to injury, so we'll talk a lot about that. | ||
| Plus, we've got a bunch of other stories. | ||
| It's Friday, we're chilling, we're just going to jump into it. | ||
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| Joining us tonight to talk about all of this and a whole lot more is Dave DeCamp. | ||
| Tim, thanks for having me. | ||
| My name is Dave DeCamp. | ||
| I'm the news editor of Antiwar.com. | ||
| That's where you can find all my writing. | ||
| I also host a daily podcast called Antiwar News with Dave DeCamp. | ||
| It's basically a 25-minute rundown of all the top foreign policy stories of the day from our anti-war, non-interventionist perspective. | ||
| I've got a YouTube channel. | ||
| It's called Antiwar News. | ||
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| And yeah, that's all my work. | ||
| And all aid to Israel. | ||
| All right on! | ||
| Figured I'd throw that in there. | ||
| Throw it in there. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| I am Phil Labonte, a very failed singer of all that remains anti-communist and counter-revolutionary. | ||
| I'm Ian Crossland. | ||
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| Gamer, you know, G-A-M-E-R, and maids, as in people who clean your house. | ||
| That's why I said gay mermaids. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I just wanted to spell it for people who are wondering what the URL might be. | ||
| Gay mermaids? | ||
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| You're gonna love it. | ||
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| You're gonna love it more than anybody. | ||
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| I just gotta say, like, you know, branding is supposed to be memorable and easy to convey, and just how this got approved, it's entirely my fault. | ||
| I went into chat and I was like, where are the mermaids? | ||
| This is an adult show, so, alright, this is not an adult show, this is a family show, so I don't want to talk about what I'm thinking with that title. | ||
| Well, it's so fun. | ||
| Serge is here, are we just gonna jump into the news then? | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| Alright, here's the story, but it's not the story. | ||
| The story is this. | ||
| Biden declines meeting with Dem Mayors demanding action on border crisis. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, we get it. | ||
| Biden doesn't care. | ||
| Let me give you the actual story. | ||
| Here's a video. | ||
| Texas installed a border fence to keep illegal migrants out. | ||
| The federal government came in and lifted it to allow hundreds of illegal immigrants to pour in. | ||
| They say it's not a crisis, it's an invasion. | ||
| Can I get this video? | ||
| There you go. | ||
| I am... I am... This is like... This is crazy. | ||
| When did this happen? | ||
| Let me turn that down. | ||
| So... This is just... First, let me just say... | ||
| This is clearly a video that appears to be Eagle Pass. | ||
| I'm not entirely sure. | ||
| We don't have the exact location or whatever confirmed, but you clearly have CBP trucks there and a backloader lifting up the razor wire, allowing... This is hundreds of people. | ||
| What in the actual hell? | ||
| That's crazy, right? | ||
| It is mind-blowing that the federal government I just want to stress this once again, and we'll definitely tie in Aid to Israel with it all too. | ||
| Like, not only do they not enforce the law, but they're breaking the law, aiding and abetting | ||
| people that are breaking the law. | ||
| This is mind-blowing. | ||
| I just want to stress this once again, and you know, we'll definitely tie in Aid to Israel | ||
| with it all too. | ||
| The federal government hates you. | ||
| They are taking your money and your savings, they are spending it on money to blow up kids, | ||
| and they are spending it to facilitate criminal activities in this country. | ||
| When, okay, I just, what would you call it if members of your own, of individuals in your own government are giving resources and material aid to people who are not citizens in order for those people to break the laws of your country? | ||
| Yeah, I think that's treason. | ||
| It might be treason, but they're not, we're not at war with these people, so maybe not But, once again, to bundle all of it up together, just to make it, we'll make it anti-war too. | ||
| Yeah, they're not taking care of us. | ||
| If you're on the left, ask yourself why you don't have healthcare. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| If you're on the right, ask why it is your savings, your buying power, continually goes down. | ||
| It doesn't matter who you are or what you want. | ||
| We can all agree, the first step is, these people need to be stopped. | ||
| We need to get them out of government. | ||
| We need law enforcement to stop people who are committing crimes. | ||
| This is like, okay, treason, and I don't have the whole definition of the word treason, but it's the crime of attacking a state authority to which one owes allegiance. | ||
| The federal government owes its allegiance to the state of Texas. | ||
| It owes its allegiance to every state in the union, and if it's violating Texas law... | ||
| To incite criminals. | ||
| That's treasonous in my opinion. | ||
| That's just a sentence of it, I don't know. | ||
| Do we know anything more about this? | ||
| Like, when this happened or who exactly these people are? | ||
| So this has been ongoing. | ||
| There was actually, the bigger story was that CBP was snipping the razor wire. | ||
| Yeah, I remember that. | ||
| And this is a component of that. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So I'm assuming this video is probably recent considering this whole Eagle Pass thing has been going on in the past several weeks. | ||
| And then is there ever any explanation? | ||
| Because I remember seeing the snipping. | ||
| Have they ever said anything about that? | ||
| Yeah, they claim that they're legally obligated to allow people into the country to apply for asylum or something like that. | ||
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Wow. | |
| But here's the issue. | ||
| If they're here, allowing them... The argument is once they cross the middle of the river, now that they're in America, they can't be deported. | ||
| And I'm just like, yeah, I don't buy it because I think it was Texas that put the buoy barrier in the water and they came and said, you gotta get that out now. | ||
| It's like, well, hold on. | ||
| When you put it in the water, you say, nope, it has to go. | ||
| When you put it on land, you say, oh, well, they're already here. | ||
| Is this confirmed that this is actually, this is exactly what we think it is? | ||
| Because I see a lot of fake videos these days. | ||
| Fair point, but I mean, this is the CBB truck. | ||
| Okay, so this is Auden B. Cabello, citizen journalist documenting the migrant journey. | ||
| And he says, Eagle Pass, Texas. | ||
| Texas state versus federal battle continues, this time with forklifts. | ||
| This is November 2nd. | ||
| Last week, the federal government used a forklift to raise wire and let 300 migrants in. | ||
| So, I don't believe it's a forklift. | ||
| I believe it's a backloader. | ||
| I could be wrong. | ||
| I remember I saw a video recently of people, like, putting cardboard and stuff under the barbed wire, crawling, and then they actually made them turn around and go back. | ||
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Wow. | |
| But that, again, that was just kind of a random video on Twitter. | ||
| There's another video where Border Patrol opens the gate at the bollard fencing and lets people in, and they're just like, and I'm just like, what? | ||
| This is why they got so mad when Trump said build a wall. | ||
| Before Trump said, we're going to go ham on the border, these people were just coming across. | ||
| And what was happening is really interesting. | ||
| They weren't reporting apprehensions because there weren't any. | ||
| So when they say there were only 50,000 apprehensions, immigration was low. | ||
| No, it was probably 550,000 illegal crossings and only 50,000 actually apprehended. | ||
| When Donald Trump started apprehending, apprehensions skyrocketed. | ||
| And they said, see, it's getting worse under Trump. | ||
| Now we can see what's going on. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| They're not being apprehended. | ||
| They're being welcomed in. | ||
| And we do know the Biden administration was trafficking children. | ||
| I want to stress this. | ||
| Statement of fact. | ||
| The Biden administration. | ||
| Statement of absolute fact. | ||
| Trafficked migrant children. | ||
| Have a nice day. | ||
| They're helping blow up children in Gaza right now, too. | ||
| That's fair, and they're also blowing up children in many other countries. | ||
| I'm not biased. | ||
| We can't be biased about one. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, Yemen. | ||
| Secret war in Yemen? | ||
| I mean, that's been ongoing for a really long time. | ||
| But I guess, who was just saying that the crisis has only just ended? | ||
| Probably because the U.S. | ||
| is shifting all of its resources to- Oh, in Yemen? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, there's been a ceasefire between the Houthis, who control most of North Yemen, and the Saudis, who the U.S. | ||
| was backing in that war, which was a very brutal war. | ||
| There's been a ceasefire that held since April 2022 relatively well. | ||
| There hasn't been any airstrikes. | ||
| There's been fighting at the border. | ||
| But now you have the Houthis fire missiles at Israel, and things could get, you know, it puts the Saudis in a- Dave? | ||
| Spot. | ||
| Uh-huh? | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| We should not be funding it. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| We should not be involved in this stuff. | ||
| We shouldn't be, but we are. | ||
| I know. | ||
| That's the thing, that's why we do need to care. | ||
| Because to the Houthis, because you might not care, not many people are aware, but if you read Houthi media, every attack, every bombing, every shelling is not just the Saudis doing it, they call it U.S.-Saudi aggression. | ||
| So, but I'll clarify. | ||
| I'm kind of being a dick. | ||
| I, of course, care about war. | ||
| I don't want it to happen, but I think the U.S. | ||
| makes it worse. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| And then they're spending my money to make it worse. | ||
| And we had this, we had an excellent, amazing conversation this morning with Stephen Marsh on the culture war. | ||
| And we were basically just like, Stephen said something like, the U.S., if you're going to go up against the U.S. | ||
| military, you're in trouble. | ||
| And I'm like, why? | ||
| They lose every war. | ||
| But they win the engagements. | ||
| That's a horrifying thing to say. | ||
| The U.S. | ||
| can actually blow you up successfully, but they can't maintain control. | ||
| It just falls apart. | ||
| They don't have, like, war goals. | ||
| I haven't seen, like, a legitimate war goal from the United States government. | ||
| They just want to keep the wars going. | ||
| Since, like, World War II. | ||
| I mean, there hasn't been a war, legal war, in the United States since World War II. | ||
| I have none of them declare Vietnam. | ||
| I don't know what the purpose of that war was. | ||
| They never really... | ||
| What was that? | ||
| Vietnam? | ||
| Was it to get oil? | ||
| They never really say stop communism. | ||
| We said it was containment. | ||
| It was to contain communism because they were considered the domino theory, which was as countries fell to communism, more countries would fall to communism. | ||
| That's like a never-ending thing, so that's not really a war goal. | ||
| It was a proxy war with the Soviets. | ||
| I think they were trying to get Malaysian oil, and they just never wanted to tell anyone. | ||
| Well, they won't say that out loud. | ||
| There was a lot of Malaysian oil. | ||
| They tried to do it with the TPP. | ||
| World War I, World War II, and the Cold War were all basically the same thing. | ||
| I agree, it's one thing. | ||
| Right, so Vietnam is a component of the U.S. | ||
| was at war with the Soviets, but we were all scared if we engage in direct conflict, nuclear weapons will fly. | ||
| So we did these, we're in, war in Vietnam! | ||
| And it was really Soviet and Communist Chinese interests. | ||
| Well, you see what they're doing in Ukraine, they use the same justification. | ||
| The claim is that if Putin isn't stopped in Ukraine, he's gonna roll into Eastern Europe, but that's just complete nonsense. | ||
| Yeah, your nonsense doesn't even cut it. | ||
| You gotta do the narrator meme. | ||
| He would not. | ||
| Yeah, but you know John Mearsheimer? | ||
| He's the international relations professor, the realist guy. | ||
| His lectures, you know, really popular on YouTube. | ||
| He was always warning for years and years that the US and the West was going to provoke a war in Ukraine. | ||
| He always says that before 2014, the coup in Kiev and the Civil War in the Donbass and Russia annexing Crimea. | ||
| He said before that they never said Putin was, you know, trying to go into Europe. | ||
| That was never a talking point. | ||
| Then all of a sudden he became this guy who wanted to reinstate the Russian Empire and, you know, roll into Poland. | ||
| But it's just a nonsense talking point. | ||
| Putin, I think, three or four weeks ago, maybe a month and a half ago, was like, the collective West has lost its mind, or the West has lost its collective mind. | ||
| It was just a hilarious statement. | ||
| He's just looking at it like, what in the hell is he doing? | ||
| He's right. | ||
| I don't think he's a good guy, but he's right. | ||
| It's so weird. | ||
| How do we strip this apart? | ||
| The bifurcation in American politics is just so insane. | ||
| There's no unification on what this country should be doing. | ||
| There are people who are holding on to the last vestiges of the American Constitutional Republic. | ||
| There's a lot of them. | ||
| But then I think the average, run-of-the-mill person doesn't know or care, and then the left is actively seeking to subvert. | ||
| I think what we're seeing with the... We talked about this this morning again. | ||
| You know, Stephen mentioned that the United States was born of rebels and that rebel mentality exists within our documents. | ||
| Our documents were written by rebels and we maintain that even to the Civil War. | ||
| It all makes sense, right? | ||
| And then Phil brought up exactly what the government is doing. | ||
| I said they're trying to stamp out the rebel spirit. | ||
| Which is a component of why they're like, get as many non-rebellious people to come into the United States, and that will start to erode our ideals. | ||
| That's part of the thing, one of the things that I'm concerned about with, not just with CBDCs, like Central Bank Digital Currencies, but also with the idea of basic minimum, basic living... Universal Basic Income, UBI. | ||
| When people are on the government payroll, And everyone is on the government payroll. | ||
| That really is going to make people completely subservient. | ||
| Now there's still people that are like, I don't need the government. | ||
| I don't want to deal with the government. | ||
| All I want to do is live my life in a way that is as independent as possible. | ||
| If you have a CBDC, definitely. | ||
| If you have some kind of UBI, there's going to be so many people that are Just completely and totally dependent on the government, more so than now. | ||
| Now, most people in urban areas, most people in cities are on some level dependent on the government, even if it's dependent on the government to make sure that they can get out of their driveway if it snows or, you know, to make sure that they have water and sewage, plumbing and stuff like that. | ||
| But if you have people that are getting a UBI, everything is going to be dependent on the government. | ||
| Everything. | ||
| All of their income. | ||
| That means that you're dependent on the government to eat. | ||
| But, realistically, the moment a UBI goes into effect, the economy spirals out of control and within a month, there's no economy at all. | ||
| I strongly agree. | ||
| Yeah, I just saw that we print a trillion dollars in the last three months. | ||
| A trillion? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| I think it took 250 years to get to the first trillion. | ||
| And what was it? | ||
| 80% is just specifically for Zelensky himself, personally. | ||
| Bottom of a big mansion in a big boat. | ||
| His fetus cat. | ||
| Biden's asking for $105 billion to fund the war in Ukraine, the war in Gaza, to give military aid to Taiwan so they could work on provoking another war in Southeast Asia. | ||
| And there is some for border security to entice the Republicans, but... Right. | ||
| It's just an insane amount of money. | ||
| $105 billion. | ||
| But I love this. | ||
| Biden's like, we need money for Ukraine and Israel and Taiwan! | ||
| And the border. | ||
| And the border. | ||
| And the Republicans are like, border? | ||
| Border? | ||
| Did you say omnibus? | ||
| I'm looking at the U.S. | ||
| national debt clock. | ||
| I was going to say, Taiwan's the crazy thing because I don't know how the U.S. | ||
| maintains a conflict with an island 90 miles off the coast of mainland China. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| What would you do, man? | ||
| I've heard rumors that the United States has special forces there. | ||
| Yeah, they recently sent a few hundred troops to Taiwan. | ||
| It's really the highest troop level since the U.S. | ||
| and China normalized relations because part of that deal was for the U.S. | ||
| to pull its troops out and its mutual defense treaty with Taiwan and eventually stop selling them weapons. | ||
| But the way they made that commitment was so vague that they'll tell you they can interpret it in 12 different ways. | ||
| A big part of it was pulling the troops out, and recently the U.S. | ||
| sent about one to two hundred troops, which doesn't sound like a lot, but if you're China, you know, it's very provocative to China. | ||
| And you mentioned sustaining a war. | ||
| Real quick, make a point. | ||
| Imagine if China stationed 100 troops in Cuba. | ||
| China has actual police forces inside the United States! | ||
| That's a good point! | ||
| They're not policing regular Americans, but they're policing Chinese Americans. | ||
| Yeah, what's the story with that? | ||
| Because I've heard about that. | ||
| I think them calling it police stations is a pretty dramatic way to describe it. | ||
| It's Chinese law enforcement operating out of the United States with offices to go to Chinese citizens living in the United States and arrest them for crimes against China. | ||
| From what I understand, that's not what it is. | ||
| Again, this is something I don't really know about. | ||
| The FBI said what it was. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I'm not a big fan of the FBI. | ||
| The FBI says a lot of things. | ||
| Right, yeah. | ||
| From what I understand, they have these kind of like offices where they that are, you know, on paper, you know, they say that they're there to help Chinese Americans like with certain documents and stuff. | ||
| And then they might be going after dissidents through those offices. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Which a lot of countries do. | ||
| I mean, India might have killed a Sikh in Canada. | ||
| You know, if that was China that killed a Uyghur in Canada, we would be talking about that every day. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But India, kind of, you know, the U.S. | ||
| is looking at India as this new partner in containing China. | ||
| This is from New York. | ||
| New York Post says that they've opened four police stations, Chinese, in North America. | ||
| Three of them are in Toronto, one's in New York City. | ||
| But, you know, I know they do... What does that mean, a police station? | ||
| To target Chinese-Americans for infractions. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| So maybe one thing on paper and another thing... But I want to stress this. | ||
| I think it's fair to say that there's definitely a very warped perspective on what China is like for Americans. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I think we often get people saying like get on, you know, Laowai or Serpentza to come on and talk about China. | ||
| You go to a Chinese city and you're gonna go to Pizza Hut and you're gonna have a slice of pizza. | ||
| Like, these things exist. | ||
| There's competing interest and power at play and there's no saints. | ||
| There's no saints and there's no saviors. | ||
| I get the vibe. | ||
| I've been to Shanghai. | ||
| It was awesome. | ||
| Did you get the stuffed crust with the hot dog in it? | ||
| No. | ||
| See, that's what I'm talking about. | ||
| You go to China, and this is what concerns me. | ||
| You go to Pizza Hut, I think it's Pizza Hut, and they will stuff your crust with anything, including hot dogs. | ||
| I get the vibe that they're way more allied and aligned with the United States than, like, the Iranians. | ||
| Like, the Chinese are severely oligarchic businessmen. | ||
| They don't want conflict or war destruction. | ||
| They want to improve, improve, improve, and they want to buy us out, if anything. | ||
| You are correct. | ||
| The Chinese try to cut deals with American politicians to gain power. | ||
| They want to buy land. | ||
| They want to use soft power to expand. | ||
| Whereas Iran, very different. | ||
| And I'm using Iran as an example, but the people that have been heavily radicalized in the Middle East from all these bombings and things. | ||
| Well, the people that have been heavily radicalized in the Middle East are radicalized for multiple different reasons. | ||
| The Chinese, like Tim said, it's all soft power, but they still want to be able to influence, and they want to be, you know, they're using soft power, but it is to have the United States have policies that benefit China, whether they be indirectly or directly benefiting China, you know? | ||
| But China, I mean, China, the really scary thing about Taiwan, so you mentioned sustaining a war right off China's coast. | ||
| If you look at the think tanks have been putting out these war games and about what a battle would be like, the first battle over Taiwan, like the first few weeks, and they never consider nuclear escalation. | ||
| So this is the really scary part about China is that our Pentagon, our military leaders, you hear them say they're openly planning for a direct war with China. | ||
| They're saying they're trying to deter war, but if it happens, they're going to take them head on. | ||
| They have nukes. | ||
| But anyway, with the war games, again, they don't take into account nuclear escalation. | ||
| But besides that, in the first few weeks, a naval battle over Taiwan, thousands and thousands of American sailors will be killed. | ||
| Scott Horton recently just interviewed Lyle Goldstein. | ||
| He worked at the Naval War College for 20 years. | ||
| He speaks Chinese. | ||
| He's an expert on this. | ||
| He was saying he thinks tens of thousands of American sailors would be killed in the first few weeks. | ||
| Well, there was a... we talked about this, I think, the other day that China does a war game and in every single scenario a US carrier gets sunk. | ||
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Yeah, if you have boats on the surface... It's really the same result. | |
| We gotta do like a war game, like a D&D style war game. | ||
| That'd be fun. | ||
| That'd be really cool. | ||
| Oh, we talked about doing this. | ||
| We should do two. | ||
| We should do World War III and Civil War and do like a two hour long D&D session style thing. | ||
| Yeah, those sound fun. | ||
| These boats! | ||
| We should bring you and Scott and you guys can be... We'll be like, no guys! | ||
| No, you'll be the neocons. | ||
| Everybody get along, man! | ||
| You know, you're gonna roleplay as the neocons. | ||
| Okay, yeah, that sounds fun. | ||
| I think you know them well enough and you're gonna be like, WAR! | ||
| Scott's gonna be like, I'm John Bolton. | ||
| There's like a World War III RPG, like 2020 or something, 2030, I don't know. | ||
| I used to play it in the 90s, or we had the book. | ||
| But see, boats! | ||
| Boats are so vulnerable to hypersonic missiles now, especially boats that are close to the Chinese land. | ||
| They're sitting targets. | ||
| And that's what China's been preparing for, is a war right there. | ||
| Someone just sent me an email or tweeted at me, there's an injunction. | ||
| The state of Texas got an injunction on the federal government for what they were doing. | ||
| It says the date on it is, one second, filed 10-27-23. | ||
| So this, they said, was from last week. | ||
| It's possible that this video is from before. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| This is probably what caused the injunction, caused them to seek the injunction. | ||
| So that's to the state of Texas? | ||
| The state of Texas got an injunction on the federal government to get them to stop Basically knocking down the borders so that way illegal immigrants can come into the country. | ||
| Maybe not treason, but they're definitely attacking state authority by going into Texas and messing them up. | ||
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It's not that. | |
| They're aiding and abetting people who are not citizens who are committing crimes against our nation. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because technically the feds are supposed to take care of the border, right? | ||
| Like not the state of Texas. | ||
| Because it's an international border. | ||
| So the federal government has jurisdiction. | ||
| And they're totally abdicating their authority. | ||
| Not only abdicating it, but also violating it. | ||
| They're not doing their job. | ||
| And they're making it worse, too. | ||
| It's not that they're just not there, it's that they're in there cutting the barbed wires and letting people in. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| My apologies. | ||
| I pulled up the U.S. | ||
| National Debt Clock a little while ago. | ||
| If you haven't been to usdebtclock.org, pull it up in a different tab. | ||
| We're printing $100,000 every three seconds of debt. | ||
| $100,000 every three seconds. | ||
| That's a million dollars every 30 seconds. | ||
| Two million dollars a minute. | ||
| Probably going to be a quintillion dollars in our lifetime. | ||
| I love how Thomas Massey wears the pin. | ||
| Yeah, it actively calculates the national debt. | ||
| He just gave one to Ron Paul. | ||
| It made me very happy. | ||
| I love that guy, Thomas Massey. | ||
| But people don't understand what this means because they're like, what does that mean? | ||
| I don't know anything about that. | ||
| Like, I have my money. | ||
| It means that right now, you want to buy a house? | ||
| You're not going to be able to. | ||
| It means that your milk that you buy today is going to cost twice as much tomorrow. | ||
| That's if nothing changes, if we're on this, stay on this track forever. | ||
| We can alter our gross domestic production capacity by pivoting to hydrogen fuel. | ||
| I actually talked with James Tour today. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Currents, okay, so the current U.S. | ||
| money supply is $20.6 trillion. | ||
| U.S. | ||
| treasury dollars is $1.5 trillion, and the currency and credit derivatives is $634 trillion. | ||
| Wait, no, no, no. | ||
| Is that, yeah, trillion dollars. | ||
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| $600 trillion? | ||
| Uh, yeah, a trillion. | ||
| Well, when you hear numbers like that, it's just like, what it, you know, it's like, what does that even mean? | ||
| The only time that anyone has ever used those numbers outside of the national debt is in, like, physics. | ||
| When you're talking about the numbers of, like, particles in the universe, you know, it's like, it takes that kind of Like something that massive. | ||
| Otherwise, these numbers are completely and totally impractical. | ||
| The human mind can't even comprehend it. | ||
| And it's the rate of change that's also where it becomes highly impractical. | ||
| You guys ready for this? | ||
| The U.S. | ||
| federal debt-to-GDP ratio was 124.43%. | ||
| In 1980, it was 34. | ||
| Remember 1980? | ||
| I wasn't alive. | ||
| four point four three percent in nineteen eighty it was thirty four remember number | ||
| nineteen eighty i was alive around about the uh... jimmy carter era john lennon | ||
| John Lennon died in December of 1980. | ||
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What did you say it was in 1980? | |
| The 34.7. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| And I believe 80 was Carter, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or was that when he was getting out? | ||
| Yeah, Reagan was elected in 80. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Or 79 and then was put into office in 80 or something like that. | ||
| Or it's 80-81, I think. | ||
| Maybe, yeah. | ||
| And you know, I can't verify that this website's actually legit either. | ||
| I never have been able to verify it. | ||
| The debt? | ||
| This is all public data, yeah. | ||
| And then I remember it was a big deal because one day it put, like, Jesus Christ is Lord on the front page and you had to, like, exit out to see. | ||
| And people were like, wow, like, conservatives were all like, whoa, holy crap, because this is, like, a big website. | ||
| Something like that happened. | ||
| It was recently, I think. | ||
| Look at this, the interest on the debt, $676 billion. | ||
| That's not even that much. | ||
| Is that a lot of money? | ||
| I thought it was going to be way more than that. | ||
| The interest on the debt is going up. | ||
| Debts I've always considered... No, I think this is specifically for, um, the interest on the debt is for Medicare, Social Security, and Defense. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| But the issue is that's not the debt. | ||
| That's the interest on top. | ||
| It's going up. | ||
| We're not paying that down. | ||
| As Ian often brings up, if the interest keeps going up, you can't pay back more interest by taking another loan. | ||
| To pay back, you get more interest. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| We need to increase the value of our dollar is what we need to do worldwide. | ||
| We need a gold standard. | ||
| Yeah, or, I'm big into hydrogen fuel, because if we can start producing things that are valuable, and graphene, because if we can start producing things that we can sell around the world, graphene's like $60,000 a ton, and they are just churning it out at Rice University right now. | ||
| Or, you know, what is that stuff, that like blue crab blood or whatever, you know what I'm talking about? | ||
| Blue crude. | ||
| Is that what they call it? | ||
| Horseshoe crab blood? | ||
| It's like the most expensive material in the world or something? | ||
| I'm from Long Island, and we just had... Every once in a while, some random horseshoe crab genocide would happen or something, and they'd just be all over the beach. | ||
| And I always hear that it's worth money, their blood, and I'm like, man, I should have been collecting their blood when I was a kid. | ||
| Those are like the blue horseshoe crabs or whatever, and they hook them all up to tubes and extract blood slowly, and it's like... | ||
| I don't know what the deal is, but I've seen that. | ||
| Antibacterial, it's valued in the medical industry. | ||
| But we need, like, when you talk about a dollar, like, I'm a libertarian, so we're always talking about the gold standard, but, you know, we could have a different commodity-based dollar. | ||
| There are different things that can back the dollar. | ||
| Hey, we can go to 2027, we can go to the future. | ||
| Based on all these projections, where we'll be. | ||
| Oh, give it to me. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| I love this. | ||
| Four years from now. | ||
| Four years from now, the average family is going to have $100,000 in their savings. | ||
| That is really bad. | ||
| That is not good. | ||
| It says today that the average family has $11,000. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And it says it's going to be 10x in four years. | ||
| And if the debt to GDP ratio goes from 124, 124% to 150%, that means the buying, just a general correlation's not perfect, but that 10x increase in how much money you have correlates with like a 12 times decrease in your buying power. | ||
| Spend your dollars, get rid of them, buy even, like I know that like there's people that- That sounds like financial advice, Phil. | ||
| Oh yeah, well, I'm not giving you any financial advice. | ||
| I like to spend dollars and get things that are valuable. | ||
| I know that whether it be Bitcoin or gold or silver or ammo or whatever. | ||
| Property? | ||
| Land is great. | ||
| I think that I'm going to be buying things that are going to retain value or go up in value. | ||
| I'm probably not going to be hanging on to very much cash. | ||
| I like to invest in machines that I can use to increase my income, my profitability, things like that. | ||
| A really good camera, a really good microphone if you use it. | ||
| I mean, look, I'm not... | ||
| Assets per citizen 1.2 million. | ||
| I ain't telling you what to do, but electronics don't hold their value. | ||
| Yeah, but you use it in the short term to increase productivity. | ||
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| Fair enough. | ||
| I've turned into like a Civil War nerd since I moved to Virginia, because there's like a million battlefields where I live. | ||
| And there's signs everywhere, you notice them? | ||
| It's really cool. | ||
| You'll go to a dock to launch a fishing boat, and there's a sign like, this is where this general killed this general. | ||
| I live near Petersburg, and it was like almost a year's long siege around the city, so there's battles everywhere. | ||
| But it's got me kind of collecting like old antiques, and that's actually a really good investment, is like really old antiques. | ||
| Like a Charizard. | ||
| They really go up in value. | ||
| I used to have so many. | ||
| The crazy thing is, I think I had probably like five first edition Charizards when I was a kid. | ||
| And they were, like, worth a little bit. | ||
| I don't even know what happened to them. | ||
| They're all gone. | ||
| But now they're worth, like, $10,000 to $20,000. | ||
| Have you checked your attic? | ||
| Did Beanie Babies ever get... I have not. | ||
| I lost all of my older Magic cards. | ||
| That was brutal one day. | ||
| On a train. | ||
| I was... We were on a train and I was... Like, I fell asleep. | ||
| And then they're like, Oh, we're at our stop. | ||
| Get up. | ||
| And I get up and jump off the train and I go... I turn back and the door closes and I'm like, Oh, my card's gone. | ||
| And that's probably 100 grand worth of Magic Cards gone. | ||
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Now, yeah. | |
| They're really worth that much now? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But because the cards back then were not that valuable, but we're talking 25, 24 years, now they're all extremely rare and out of print and more valuable. | ||
| I wonder what an Alpha Black Lotus is. | ||
| What? | ||
| 1.2 million dollars for an Alpha Black Lotus? | ||
| Was it like rated 10? | ||
| Yeah, 9.5. | ||
| Is that a Magic Card? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's the most valuable Magic Card. | ||
| 1.2 million. | ||
| That thing was like $600,000. | ||
| Yeah, but you're probably looking at a special auction because a rated 8 is $140,000. | ||
| Okay. | ||
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That's crazy. | |
| Wow. | ||
| $1,000,000 for a freaking piece of cardboard. | ||
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It was $700,000 when I was a kid and we were like, wow, $700,000. | |
| That's crazy. | ||
| Man. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Who knows what's going to be worth money, you know what I'm saying? | ||
| That's the thing. | ||
| Do you remember the Beanie Babies? | ||
| Everybody was like, oh, these are going to be worth something one day, but I don't think they ever were. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| That was a tulip thing. | ||
| That was a Dutch tulip fiasco. | ||
| But, Phil, I think a cool thing for you to, like, spend money on and collect, you could get antique, like, firearms from, like, the 1800s. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And they look awesome, and you can mount them on your wall, and they just grow in value. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| That's an actual Union Civil War rifled musket. | ||
| Yeah, that's awesome. | ||
| I have a breechloader. | ||
| I forget the name of it. | ||
| That's what I need. | ||
| Breachloader, breechloading rifle from the Civil War. | ||
| I have a pinfire revolver, which is kind of a rare type. | ||
| Pinfire, like it had a little pin that stuck out of it and the hammer would hit the pin and that's what would fire the shell. | ||
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Oh, wow. | |
| Yeah, they didn't really, they weren't around for long, but Calvary officers had them on the Union and Confederate side. | ||
| So it's pretty cool. | ||
| It's like, I got, I bought it for like 800 bucks a few years ago, and it's just... They used, uh... You know, the longer you hold on to it, the more valuable it gets. | ||
| I think the revolvers back then were, uh, the more ubiquitous was the percussion cap, and that's so, like, little metal primer goes in the back of, you know, each chamber, and then it hits the primer, which ignites the musket ball or whatever, whatever they were using. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The bullet at the time. | ||
| And then we've actually got some actual Civil War bullets because, uh, we have a Civil War bayonet somewhere. | ||
| Oh, yeah? | ||
| Yeah, we found it on the property. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's all rusted and, you know, and we're just like, Oh, whatever. | ||
| They're all over the place. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Super cool. | ||
| I've been metal detected on my property because there's a battle. | ||
| I'm wondering what relics people will find from the next civil war. | ||
| So they're going to find, you know, magic cards, iPhone 15. | ||
| And, uh, my, uh, my buddy back in New Hampshire, he does a lot of metal detecting and, He's trying to get into off-limit places because, you know, New England's been around a long time, so people have done a lot of hunting and stuff, so he's trying to find places where he's not allowed that he can sneak into. | ||
| I won't blow him up. | ||
| I'm kind of like, yeah, if we sit around and just kind of complain for the next six months, it could be the end of the world. | ||
| But if we really pioneer new tech, like hydrogen tech, and really push it, really push it, we could probably come out of this on top. | ||
| It depends. | ||
| So, if what we're facing right now is actually a legitimate threat of World War 3, the population decrease from war and from the fact that people don't have kids means what you're hoping for is less likely to occur. | ||
| Technological expansion typically requires population expansion. | ||
| Like, how many people does it take to make one monitor screen? | ||
| It's probably like 500 different specialties to make one computer monitor. | ||
| But because of the international economy and how everything operates, someone gets cobalt here, and someone gets, you know, quartz here, and someone mines the oil or drills for the oil over here, and then they all go on these different marketplaces. | ||
| I think a really good example is probably just like Pad Thai. | ||
| Or something, some like ridiculous dish that has a spice from Asia and a vegetable from Mexico, and you're like, this unnatural demonic food would never exist were it not for our big oil tankers. | ||
| You know, our big cargo ships around the oceans to bring all these ingredients together. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| If the population declines too much, you lose specialties, and then you're gonna have a guy who's gonna be like, look man, we need someone who can extract hydrogen, but we don't have that anymore. | ||
| So I can work on that, but then we don't have a guy who handles the plastics. | ||
| We don't have a guy who handles the electronics. | ||
| Ian, you're worried about, like, World War III bringing the world to an end, or is there something else you're worried about? | ||
| Is it World War that's got you nervous? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, because, you know, for what I do, I basically read, you know, all day every day I sort through, like, hundreds of news articles and read about this, uh... | ||
| You know, war in Ukraine, tensions with China, and all that. | ||
| And I don't like to be hyperbolic in my show and stuff, but I always say, like, if we wake up tomorrow and Russia bombed a NATO base in Poland and we're actually at war with Russia, or if a Chinese ship and an American ship shot at each other in the South China Sea and then it escalated and all of a sudden we're at war with China, You know, don't be surprised. | ||
| We shouldn't be surprised, because at the state of the world that we're in right now, they're just pushing everybody all over the planet. | ||
| It's really... It is very scary. | ||
| And again, I don't try to be over-hyperbolic, but what they're doing, they're leading us down a path of Global War, the likes of which, you know, we've never seen, especially with new technology. | ||
| And I, I, I always, I always want to stress too, because especially when we had, uh, you know, I'll shout it again, Culture War Podcast, you do become slash Timcast. | ||
| Uh, Steven Marsh and I were talking before the show started, because he was, I showed him the Civil War rifle. | ||
| And he was like, what was the first, the first battle? | ||
| And I was like, uh, Bull Run, Manassas. | ||
| And he was like, right, right. | ||
| And they didn't even think it was, it wasn't even a battle. | ||
| It was like a street fight. | ||
| Like nobody knew what was going on. | ||
| And I'm like, Yes. | ||
| What we consider to be the first battle. | ||
| I mean, obviously Fort Sumter is the start of it, but that wasn't even a battle. | ||
| It was like only one guy died and it was an accident. | ||
| I don't think anybody died. | ||
| One guy. | ||
| It was an accident? | ||
| It was one death. | ||
| It was accidental. | ||
| It was like, I can't remember exactly what happened. | ||
| But then you had the first battle of Bull Run and no one thought the fight was actually going to happen. | ||
| And at the time when it did happen, nobody called it the Civil War. | ||
| Nobody called it the war in the States. | ||
| It was not a war at all. | ||
| Now we look back and say, what? | ||
| Both sides thought it would be over so quick. | ||
| So it's possible. | ||
| That, in a hundred years, they say World War III started December of 2022. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's possible they say it started with the Russian invasion of Ukraine. | ||
| I tend to think of it as 9-11, personally. | ||
| The US was just stomping on everyone's neck for the first 18 years of it. | ||
| Yeah, but bro, the US has been doing that for a lot longer than- But 9-11 changed, like, lockdown, police state crap, you know, Patriot Act, people were getting, you know, take your shoes off at the airport kind of crap, looking over your shoulder, afraid of Muslims, like all this dumb I'll tell you. | ||
| So just an anecdote about when I went to China, I remember getting in or I was getting on the plane to fly. | ||
| I forget where we were flying next, but I was all nervous going through their security. | ||
| I was like, I'm going to have to take my shoes off. | ||
| It's China. | ||
| They're going to really go crazy and pat me down. | ||
| And I started like taking my belt off and they're just like, come on, come on through. | ||
| And they just like hit me with the wand. | ||
| And I was like, Oh wow. | ||
| And then when we got back into the U S my wife bought like some hand cream in Australia and they put it in like a special bag and they were like, you can't, I mean, I don't know if it's the remnants of 9-11. | ||
| shook her down and like ripped apart all her stuff and said she couldn't bring it | ||
| in or if she wanted to she had to like mail it to it was crazy I'm like this is | ||
| just the remnants of 9-11 of what they did to us after that it hasn't gone away. | ||
| I mean I don't know if it's the remnants of 9-11 there the thing that we're | ||
| experiencing is not actually about stopping terrorism. | ||
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| It's the it's the fact that once you start a government program, they never go away. | ||
| It's the infrastructure for the TSA that was designed for, you know, designed initially to stop terrorism. | ||
| Never stopped a thing. | ||
| It's an addiction. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So what happens is the U.S. | ||
| government says, we're going to spend $100 million on war. | ||
| They invest in all these companies. | ||
| The companies build up a big employee base. | ||
| They hire a bunch of people. | ||
| Next year comes around, and that company goes to Congress and says, are you going to give us that same deal again? | ||
| And they go, well, I don't think we need it. | ||
| There's no war. | ||
| And they go, listen, We employ 500 people in your district. | ||
| And if we don't have this contract, we're firing them. | ||
| And we're going to tell them it's because of you. | ||
| No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| You got my vote. | ||
| You got my vote. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So what we got to do is make hit music. | ||
| I'm talking like Marvin Gaye. | ||
| We need to make babies and we need to inspire people to have sex and have children. | ||
| And that's music. | ||
| That's like, because if we have kids, it's not enough. | ||
| You need to, you need to mass produce love. | ||
| And we need to make hydrogen fuel and graphene to get out of this steel hellhole that we're in and start making lightweight superconductors locally really fast and cheaply. | ||
| I gotta stop right here. | ||
| Ian is completely correct on graphene. | ||
| Because steel was such a large component of our industry, of our jobs, of our economy. | ||
| The Steelers. | ||
| Pittsburgh. | ||
| How much steel is still being made in the U.S.? | ||
| I do not believe very much. | ||
| But either way, if we had an industrial revolution on par with what it was in the past, and we bring back a bunch of jobs, you could have manufacturing plants pop up all over the place. | ||
| It could revitalize dying towns. | ||
| It could create new cities. | ||
| And it's going to have to be You know, we often do joke about graphene and Ian's fervor, but the reality is it is a bold move to reconfigure an economy towards building a material that can be used to expand and create a bunch of new products. | ||
| My favorite example... | ||
| A lot of the stuff we use, plastics for instance, and I think paper towels, a bunch of stuff, were invented for space. | ||
| So, like, a lot of the things we use are invented by... Space race. | ||
| Yeah, the space race. | ||
| And then it's like, oh, this is convenient, people might want to use it. | ||
| We can't just sit here and be like, let's just keep doing the same thing we've always done. | ||
| We need to be like, guys, we should be, we're doing, we have the CHIPS Act, we're making silicon chips in Arizona now, or we're starting to, that's great. | ||
| That's a great idea. | ||
| We should have a, in some way, it's gonna require, I believe most of the private sector, which means a cultural shift, Where we get someone who goes, I want to bring together a bunch of financial institutions and invest a hundred billion dollars in manufacturing plants for graphene, we're going to employ five million people in the United States, and we're going to be exporting a building material and superconductor, which is going to be in major demand around the world, that will massively increase, benefit the U.S. | ||
| economy. | ||
| Yeah, the Department of Defense is working with scientists at Rice University to pump this stuff out, graphene. | ||
| I think for every $4.50 of graphene, you get a kilogram of hydrogen fuel. | ||
| And so they're actually getting, they're making money to produce. | ||
| Before it was like it cost a dollar, it cost $3 to make a kilogram of hydrogen. | ||
| Now, you're getting $4.50 to produce a kilogram of hydrogen. | ||
| It's right in front of us. | ||
| So I interviewed James Tour today, the leading chemist, one of the leading chemists on Earth that's producing this stuff. | ||
| It's an hour of us talking about it. | ||
| He gets really, we scratch the surface and do highly influential explanations. | ||
| Go to my YouTube channel and check it out. | ||
| It's the first video you'll see. | ||
| It's James Tour. | ||
| This guy's phenomenal. | ||
| We're right on the precipice, man. | ||
| Now we just got to hold it together and inspire people. | ||
| I'm kind of at a loss of what it is that you think graphene is going to do. | ||
| You can put it in cement. | ||
| That doesn't matter. | ||
| There's a lot of things. | ||
| Watch the video if you want to hear more. | ||
| What does steel do? | ||
| Well, steel is used for all kinds of stuff. | ||
| Like what? | ||
| It reinforces concrete. | ||
| And graphene does that? | ||
| You can put it in concrete. | ||
| It makes it lighter and three times more durable. | ||
| And it's, so we use lithium ion batteries for our phones. | ||
| They're actually starting to create a graphene polymer, or lithium graphene batteries. | ||
| Graphene layer in the battery creates a, what's the word? | ||
| A lattice? | ||
| A unilateral charge. | ||
| So it charges from every point all at once, which charges the battery much more quickly. | ||
| So graphene, it conducts electricity? | ||
| It's a superconductor! | ||
| So whereas a cell phone would take 15 minutes to charge in the past, it'll now take 5. | ||
| We actually bought a bunch of these a year ago. | ||
| Portable batteries. | ||
| When you plug your phone in, it'll charge your phone from 0 to full in 10 minutes. | ||
| I'm sorry, I'm sorry. | ||
| It can hold a full cell phone charge after only 10 or so minutes. | ||
| Your phone, whether or not you have the graphene polymer batteries or the graphene lithium, I don't remember what it's called. | ||
| But they're putting them in batteries. | ||
| They think that this technology in electric car batteries means you'll pull your car up to the pump at the gas station, plug in the supercharger, and you'll literally watch the charge go up like a gas tank. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| They used to, they were like, how do we make this stuff, Graphene, for the last 20 years? | ||
| How do we make a chemical vapor deposition? | ||
| They're trying to deposit carbon dioxide onto copper and get it, and you get these strips. | ||
| they figured out what's called flash jewel graphing production you put you hit it with electrical | ||
| current any carbon on earth you get all these different plastics they used to | ||
| have to recycle them and keep pull them apart as different plastics recycle | ||
| differently any carbon all the plastic together | ||
| the human feces plants matter any carbon and you hit it with electricity and turn | ||
| it into graphene and then this guy i'm actually gonna be uh... | ||
| uh... interviewing the inventor dewey long so So, but let's bring it back to the debt, this country. | ||
| My point is, I will go along with Ian on graphene for one reason. | ||
| We need a manufacturing base. | ||
| We need the American people working on raw materials that we can use to build infrastructure. | ||
| Steel, for a long time. | ||
| Not just steel, there's a lot of stuff we did in the United States. | ||
| We should drill baby drill. | ||
| We should invade Canada. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| Well, we should invade. | ||
| I meant Alaska. | ||
| But Canada, yes too. | ||
| I mean, I'm only half kidding. | ||
| But no, we should invade and occupy Alaska. | ||
| We should not waste our- Here's what I think. | ||
| When we go and blow up people overseas, what we are doing is we are creating a global economy as hollow as a fiat dollar. | ||
| We provide you nothing other than, don't screw with us. | ||
| And as other countries say, your offers are hollow. | ||
| We only need protection from you! | ||
| If the U.S. | ||
| said, okay, we are going to bolster our manufacturing, develop new technologies, create a very strong, robust middle class that works in development of new technology and new infrastructure and new raw materials and metamaterials, we occupy Alaska, using our own land to rare earth minerals, for instance, stop doing dealings with China, we would then become that shining city on the hill, and other nations would say, we gotta be like them, we gotta do business with them. | ||
| Yeah, and if we're not, don't have a global empire. | ||
| We should be able to do those things without having this empire. | ||
| You mentioned the CHIPS Act. | ||
| So the problem with the CHIPS Act is that it's basically corporate subsidies, 50 billion dollars, which is adding to the debt. | ||
| You know, I think the answer isn't subsidizing this industry, which is something, you know, China does. | ||
| I think we should, you know, resort to more capitalism and deregulate and, you know, give people tax incentives and to start factories. | ||
| You know, they're actually getting a lot of the Taiwanese companies to build factories. | ||
| The things that you're going to have to do to get To get people to start businesses like that is, I don't know the first thing about making chips or anything, but I mean, between unions, minimum wages, the amount of things that you have to deregulate and pull back on, it's just astronomical. | ||
| Whereas I understand and agree with your point, I don't think that it's that bad to have the government try to do things to, tax breaks or whatever, to incentivize companies to start it. | ||
| But they're giving them billions of dollars. | ||
| Check out 50 Billion. | ||
| That's a lot of money. | ||
| I'd rather him give it to a company in the US than give it to Israel to drop bombs. | ||
| A lot of it's going to Taiwanese companies to bring them here. | ||
| Which I'm not sure the percentages, but I know some of it. | ||
| Because the big reason why we have companies that are doing things overseas and stuff is because of labor laws and because of regulations here. | ||
| Environmental regulations. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If you can roll those back, then there's an incentive for companies to start. | ||
| But as long as the federal government has the type of legislation or regulation that disincentivizes companies from starting, I mean, it's got to start it somehow. | ||
| And I want to correct you on one thing. | ||
| Not really correct, but I want to counter. | ||
| I want a strong, robust American empire that is achieved by being really cool, producing great products, being a great trade partner, not interfering in other countries' business and politics, but being so good at everything we do that they want to learn from us. | ||
| We want other countries to say, let us know what you need. | ||
| That new thing you guys are working on, your economy's really great, we all love America, we all want to be like America, your movies are awesome. | ||
| We want to win through cultural means, not bombing children. | ||
| Yeah, culture and science. | ||
| Those are my two favorites. | ||
| The U.S. | ||
| empire uses force in a lot of different ways. | ||
| You know, if countries elect a government that the U.S. | ||
| doesn't like, they start putting economic sanctions on them, you know, purposely to destroy their economy. | ||
| Yes, yes, but let's be fair. | ||
| The U.S. | ||
| also removes that government by force and then puts in a sock puppet government. | ||
| Sometimes, sometimes, but other times they just sanction the hell out of them. | ||
| And, you know, that's part of the reason why, you know, the U.S. | ||
| on the global stage right now, if you're like a developing country and you see the way the U.S. | ||
| operates, especially now, all for the past year and a half, you had Blinken, Biden talking about You know, lecturing Russia on the war in Ukraine, talking about this rules-based order, and now we see them fully backing Israel as they're just blowing up kids and everybody can see it for themselves. | ||
| It's just like the hypocrisy is very obvious to other countries. | ||
| But the funny thing about Russia and Ukraine is... | ||
| Russia is having a territorial dispute with a neighboring country. | ||
| The United States flew to the other side of the planet to invade Iraq and Afghanistan. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| And why was Iraq invaded? | ||
| Well, I guess it was WMDs, but 9-11 was kind of the pretext. | ||
| Why was Afghanistan invaded? | ||
| Well, because the Taliban were harboring Osama bin Laden, so we had to go and build a nation there, and then Russia invades a neighboring country over a border dispute, and we're like, whoa, whoa, hey, Hey there, wait a minute! | ||
| Condoleezza Rice, like a few days after, sorry if I got a little worked up there Ian, you looked a little startled. | ||
| I'm so into this. | ||
| Condoleezza Rice, a few days after Russia invaded, was on TV and was like, I forget exactly what she said, but Condoleezza Rice of the George W. Bush administration said, a country cannot invade another sovereign nation, or something like that. | ||
| And did you see, do you remember George W. Bush's little Freudian slip or whatever it was? | ||
| He was giving a speech and he was like, one man's decision to invade Iraq, I mean Ukraine, and then he kind of laughed and he was like, yeah, Iraq too. | ||
| That was a moment, man. | ||
| I watched that video like a hundred times. | ||
| This country is full of shit, unfortunately. | ||
| It's definitely somewhere in his brain, but... The founding fathers, I think if they saw what was going on, they'd be like, They'd be stacking bodies. | ||
| It's like your grandfather being like, son I gifted you this really nice car and you totaled it. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, I want to stress this point, too. | ||
| The Founding Fathers notoriously just petitioned over and over again, and I think it's fair to say it was not the Americans who started the Revolutionary War. | ||
| It was the British imposing tyranny. | ||
| If we go straight to Lexington and Concord, They said, hand over your guns or else. | ||
| The Americans, the Founding Fathers were like, I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter to the King, and the King's like, screw off, I'll write another letter to the King. | ||
| And it was a year and a month after Lexington and Concord, they signed the Declaration of Independence. | ||
| So it's not like the Americans were like, it's time to stack bodies. | ||
| They were like, please, please, we're just trying to have some representation here. | ||
| Fair enough, but you know, Washington did cross the Delaware and kill everybody in their sleep. | ||
| But that's in the war. | ||
| My point is, America may be rebels, but when we started, we were not the dudes who decided to go and kill other people. | ||
| We were the dudes who honorably and reasonably said, listen, what you're doing is not working and we are telling you now, this has to change. | ||
| And if you don't listen to us, the change will come either way. | ||
| And then it was the Crown that was like, we're gonna come and put you down. | ||
| And then we said, we didn't start it, you did. | ||
| They came to Lexington and Concord and they said, we are going to come at you. | ||
| It was not Americans who went to England to fight, it was the Crown sending regulars to the colonies saying, we are going to impose our will from overseas on you and brought the guns and then demanded of the Americans. | ||
| I think The founders of this country were calm, rational, reasonable people who understood war was bad. | ||
| They did not want foreign entanglements. | ||
| I love reading about the Barbary Wars and Thomas Jefferson. | ||
| He's like, we don't want to be involved in any of this stuff. | ||
| Why are you attacking us? | ||
| What are the Barbary Wars? | ||
| This is cool. | ||
| Pirates, North Africa and Jefferson and other founding fathers, Adams, they're all basically just saying like, look man, we're just selling stuff. | ||
| We have no problem with any of you. | ||
| Why don't you leave us alone? | ||
| And they're like, screw you. | ||
| We do what we want. | ||
| They said to the, it was, they said to the, to the, in England, they said to the, the United States representative, they said the Quran gives us the, the, Approval and authorization to kill you and take your stuff because you are infidels. | ||
| And so Thomas Jefferson created the United States Marine Corps. | ||
| And that was the risk. | ||
| The response was send in the Marines. | ||
| So the Marines have been fighting for the country for as long as there has been a country. | ||
| This is the Barbary War, a series of two wars fought by the United States, Sweden, and the King of Sicily against the Barbary States, Tunis, Algiers, and Tripoli. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And Morocco. | ||
| So you made a point. | ||
| Oh, sorry. | ||
| The United States Marine Corps, the Marine Corps hymn, there's the line that says, to the shores of Tripoli, that's what it's referencing. | ||
| From the halls of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli, the Marine Corps fought for the United States. | ||
| That's a good song. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I remember you made the point before we started recording that, like, you favor, you know, the U.S. | ||
| could have a strong Navy and kind of police the waters a bit and work with their trading partners to counter piracy. | ||
| And I think that is a completely legitimate, you know, foreign policy to have, just to have a Navy and fight piracy with your trading partners. | ||
| But we're just so far from that. | ||
| We're, you know, meddling in every country around the world. | ||
| We're not anything close to that. | ||
| A lot of people like to point to the Barbary Wars as an example of how all the Founding Fathers actually were not non-interventionists, but they were responding to their property being attacked. | ||
| So it is completely different. | ||
| They were protecting Americans, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, and so this is a completely different analogy from what you were talking about, about how the British brought the war here. | ||
| My point was, the Founding Fathers' attitude was like, hey, let's just mind our own business. | ||
| We're going to do our thing here, you leave us alone. | ||
| And now, the mentality of the United States is, we offer nothing but we take. | ||
| So, what I imagine the United States is doing with the current empire, it's like a piece of bubble gum. | ||
| It's being blown up and blown up and blown up, but we know what happens. | ||
| Eventually, it gets thinner and thinner and thinner, and then it pops. | ||
| There is nothing within this bubble. | ||
| It is hollow. | ||
| The United States cannot exist by simply going out with guns and saying, we get to do this. | ||
| We can invade Iraq and Afghanistan, but Russia better not invade anybody else. | ||
| To be fair, Russia shouldn't invade Ukraine. | ||
| But the U.S. | ||
| has no more leg to stand on. | ||
| What the U.S. | ||
| should do, the U.S. | ||
| should have some type of, whatever you want to call it, empire, in the sense that we are so good, our laws are just, our people are fat and happy, I mean it figuratively, our economy is great, and it's done through production, it's done through trade, it's done through technological development, and then what happens? | ||
| Nobody's People will be jealous because we're rich. | ||
| That always happens. | ||
| But we're not blowing up kids. | ||
| We're not amoral crackpots. | ||
| Our money isn't being siphoned away from us. | ||
| Our economy is expanding. | ||
| Our families are happy. | ||
| Our kids are happy. | ||
| Our roads are taken care of. | ||
| Our infrastructure is taken care of. | ||
| And other countries are like, we need to be like them. | ||
| Look how well they're doing. | ||
| You want to spread democracy or whatever it is you call it? | ||
| That's how you do it. | ||
| You show up in a country with guns and then kill the elderly and then try to raise a new generation and you get Afghanistan. | ||
| Doesn't work. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| I think that the United States, China, and Russia have a duty to protect the planet, especially the Arctic. | ||
| It's so important. | ||
| We're right on the brink of it. | ||
| One thing back to the British, like, bringing the war to America. | ||
| You know, when we talk about Ukraine, I mean, for so long, Putin and the Russians were telling, you know, the US, like, You know, stop doing what you're doing. | ||
| Stop it. | ||
| And, you know, in the weeks and months leading up to the invasion, you know, almost a year before, they were, you know, massing troops and they submitted these security proposals. | ||
| They wanted NATO to be rolled back. | ||
| They wanted a guarantee that Ukraine would never join NATO. | ||
| And the U.S. | ||
| just said no, basically, to their main demand of Ukraine joining NATO. | ||
| A State Department official admitted this in an interview shortly after the Russian invasion. | ||
| And so, you know, and I'm not, you know, justifying Russia's invasion, but it is very clear how the U.S. | ||
| and the West provoke this thing. | ||
| And, you know, that's the thing. | ||
| That's on Russia's border. | ||
| We're, you know, we can't even, we try to put our self in the other person's shoes. | ||
| Could you imagine if Russia was funding a war in Canada? | ||
| You know, like there was a civil war there and then we intervened and Russia started sending them missiles and intelligence. | ||
| There was just a report in the Washington Post that said the CIA in 2015 started building up Ukraine's intelligence services, the SBU and the GUR, which is their military intelligence, to the tune of tens of millions of dollars. | ||
| And they were basically saying that because of that support, Ukraine's able to kill people inside Russia. | ||
| They pointed to the car bombing of Daria Dugina. | ||
| Do you guys know who she is? | ||
| Of course, the daughter of Alexander Dugin, that the Ukrainian SEU did. | ||
| They basically pointed to that, saying they're able to do this because of the CIA. | ||
| And the statue that exploded. | ||
| Do we know what that was about? | ||
| Do you remember that? | ||
| There was an internet personality in Russia. | ||
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| That was them too. | ||
| That report said it was them. | ||
| And, you know, it closed with a very ominous quote from like a former CIA official, basically saying like, what have we created here? | ||
| What if they start killing people in third countries? | ||
| You know, what if, you know, like the blowback from this Ukraine war could be very serious? | ||
| It's going to be like Afghanistan. | ||
| It is, it is going to be, uh, like, like the Mujahideen. | ||
| It is, it is, Ukraine is now, uh, what was it? | ||
| The Republicans passed a funding bill for Israel, but not Ukraine. | ||
| They're saying it's gonna be dead in the Senate. | ||
| Joe Biden, here, let me, let me pull the story up. | ||
| Post-millennial, Biden admin announces additional $425 million military package to Ukraine. | ||
| So we have weaponized and armed Ukraine, but Ukraine is losing. | ||
| The appetite for funding this is on the decline and we've got an election coming up. | ||
| What do you think happens to the extreme, I'm not saying extremists, I'm saying like very fervent national militia groups in Ukraine who are funded and trained by US forces when the US pulls out and says you're on your own? | ||
| You talk about the fear of bombings in third countries, outside of Russia and stuff? | ||
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| And then what happens? | ||
| Give it 20 years, and you've got trained armed groups in Ukraine who hate the United States for some reason or another, and you get Al-Qaeda all over again. | ||
| In some form or another. | ||
| There's, you know, because you hear the Russians talk about the Nazis in Ukraine, but there is a real neo-Nazi element in Ukraine. | ||
| You know, it's not huge, but it is very influential, and there are certain groups. | ||
| So there was like these raids going on in Russia that were done by this group called the Russian Volunteer Corps. | ||
| They were Russians, Russian people, that were fighting, you know, went over to Ukraine in 2014 to fight for them, and they're like openly neo-Nazi. | ||
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| And they had American armored vehicles. | ||
| So you had a group of neo-Nazis basically invading Russia. | ||
| And I think this was Belgrade. | ||
| They tried this a few times. | ||
| They didn't get much done. | ||
| But you have a group, a band of Nazis invading Russia with American weapons. | ||
| Like again, fathom, try to put yourself You know, we can't even imagine something like that happening to the U.S. | ||
| The Russians are actually probably justifiably sensitive to Nazis. | ||
| I think that it's probably fair. | ||
| I mean, the optics of it, of Germany sending Ukraine leopard tanks with the Iron Cross on them. | ||
| How could this happen? | ||
| What makes them Nazis? | ||
| Is it like racial superiority mindset or something? | ||
| Yeah, you know, I don't focus too much on the Nazi element, but there is like the Azov Battalion that was basically a neo-Nazi militia during the 2014 Donbass War and the coup and everything that joined the Ukrainian forces. | ||
| And there's also, you know, the history of Bandera and the Ukrainian nationalists during the World War II. | ||
| that worked with the Nazis and there are people that wear, you know, Nazi iconography | ||
| on their uniforms and stuff and it is pretty prevalent, like you'll notice it | ||
| in pictures of Ukrainian soldiers with the certain Nazi icons. So it is definitely an element | ||
| of their, you know, what they call the far right. | ||
| I kind of hate using the term far right these days because people probably call me far right, but it is like there's certainly that element inside Ukraine. | ||
| I think it's worth breaking apart what Nazism is exactly. | ||
| Hitler just used that term National Socialist and he made some psychotic political movement out of it, but he called it National Socialist. | ||
| But just if you're a nationalist and you're a socialist, doesn't mean you're a Nazi like Hitler. | ||
| Kind of means you're a Nazi. | ||
| There's not a lot of light between... As much as the socialists and communists don't want to admit this, there's not a lot of light between... | ||
| Communists and Nazis, right? | ||
| The Nazis are nationalists and they have a lot of racism, and the communists tend to not be nationalists. | ||
| They want to see a global socialism, but they're racist too a lot of the times, and you can see that in the way that the socialists are behaving towards a lot of the Jewish people that you see a lot of the anti-Semitism that's going on now. | ||
| So, there's not a lot of difference. | ||
| There are nuanced differences, but the real significant ideological differences are between liberalism and socialism, which Nazism is a type of socialism, because liberalism is based on enlightenment principles, right? | ||
| The fundamental thing about liberalism is the individual should be free to live their life and that the government is there to maybe have a social safety net, maybe not, but there's different amounts of governments that are acceptable. | ||
| But with socialist ideologies, the collective comes first. | ||
| So the Nazis believe that the German people came first. | ||
| And communists believe that the workers come before anyone else. | ||
| But it's a collectivist versus an individual ideology. | ||
| So there's not a whole... The differences between Nazis and commies is only nuance. | ||
| It was basically like Nazis were traditional and commies were progressive. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But they were all super authoritarian and wanted to lock you up in a cage and kill your family. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| But to get back to this, the 425 million dollars that they're announcing here. | ||
| So this is money that they do have left. | ||
| They're kind of running out of money to send over there. | ||
| So Biden, in that $105 billion package that he requested, it includes $61 billion to keep the Ukraine war going for another year. | ||
| They want to do it so they could get through the 2024 election. | ||
| And again, there was this Zelishny, the Ukrainian commander-in-chief, just did an interview with The Economist saying, it's a stalemate, there's not going to be a breakthrough, but that doesn't matter to Biden. | ||
| They want to keep this thing going. | ||
| They want people to be, you know, there's still, there's been fighting, territory hasn't changed hands much, but a lot of people are dying, and that's what they want to continue funding. | ||
| So it's really just sick stuff. | ||
| I think the dying part is just... I don't think that it's what they're after. | ||
| I think the money and stuff is what they're after, and then the people dying, well, that's what happens. | ||
| They don't care. | ||
| They don't care, yeah. | ||
| It's just slimy. | ||
| Well, if you actually see how some senators kind of pitch this now, I know this is... I know Mitt Romney was saying this recently, you know, their argument for continuing this war going is, oh, we're getting our money's worth, you know? | ||
| I got an idea. | ||
| What's the total number of members of Congress? | ||
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| 435? | ||
| All right. | ||
| It's a little bit more than the 425, but here's a deal. | ||
| We, the American people, will give each member of Congress one million dollars to not fund war. | ||
| And so, you have... It's a good and a bad. | ||
| We gotta negotiate here. | ||
| We are gonna have to spend that money, which adds to the deficit, devalues your currency. | ||
| But at least it stays as currency in the United States for trade, and we aren't blowing up people or funding war in other countries. | ||
| Yeah, sounds like a win-win. | ||
| So, members of Congress, if you vote against this, I say we give you all a million dollars. | ||
| Tax-free. | ||
| Tax-free! | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| Pay members of Congress a million dollars, but only... Hey, wait, here's an idea. | ||
| Any year, with no active war, members of Congress receive a million dollar bonus. | ||
| Yeah, that sounds good. | ||
| I'm in. | ||
| Yeah? | ||
| And Senate included? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Deal? | ||
| They're never gonna get it, but maybe that would incentivize them. | ||
| No, because you got a member of Congress being like, million dollar bonus, huh? | ||
| Yeah, but Raytheon's gonna pay me two million after I get out of Congress and go take that job and lobby for him. | ||
| Well, that's another thing now, like the corruption is so obvious. | ||
| Like Lloyd Austin, Biden's defense secretary, he came straight off the board of Raytheon. | ||
| And he started funding this war in Ukraine that made all these weapons, Raytheon weapons, in very high demand, weapons that they stopped making. | ||
| Stocks started going up. | ||
| Yeah, you know the Stinger missiles, the anti-aircraft missiles that they gave to the Mujahideen in Afghanistan? | ||
| Those were basically obsolete, you know, I think they were selling some to Taiwan. | ||
| But they stopped making them a while ago, and now they're in hot demand. | ||
| They're calling in like 70-year-old Raytheon engineers to start making them. | ||
| But it is, you know, the point I made about industry, So you have a manufacturer who makes, um, he makes bullets. | ||
| And let's say he makes a thousand bullets per week. | ||
| The government comes to them and says, we really like the quality of your ammo. | ||
| Can you produce for us an additional thousand? | ||
| And the guy goes... | ||
| If I'm gonna do that, I gotta hire, like, five more people for, like, logistics and all this. | ||
| And they say, well, we can pay you a premium. | ||
| We'll pay you X amount. | ||
| And the guy goes, wow, I'm gonna, it's 2.2 times my revenue for only two times the M.O. | ||
| I got a good premium on this. | ||
| Deal. | ||
| Next month, he says, I've got these employees working here. | ||
| Are you going to rip my contract? | ||
| And they say, no. | ||
| And he goes, then what do I do with these employees? | ||
| So the problem is the war machine becomes an addiction where it's not just about the kind of bribery of, I'm going to tell your constituents you did this. | ||
| It's that, okay, look, if we lay off a hundred thousand people, economy is going to get hit by this. | ||
| You gotta keep building these things just to keep the economy going because these jobs will be lost otherwise. | ||
| That's how they make the argument. | ||
| That's what Blinken's been saying that recently. | ||
| Oh, it's good for American jobs to spend all this money on wars. | ||
| I loved it when Trump said it. | ||
| He said it with the Saudis. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| He's like, we're gonna sell them a bunch of weapons. | ||
| It's great for the economy. | ||
| And it's like, oh, wow. | ||
| I hear that the government contracts are long term. | ||
| They'll do like, I don't know how many year contracts, but they don't do like one year contracts. | ||
| If you get a government contract, apparently it's very lucrative for your company. | ||
| You're set. | ||
| I remember a long time ago, there was a story where... And you don't even have to do a good job. | ||
| One of the armed forces, like the army or whatever, said, we do not need any more tanks. | ||
| And then Congress says, nope! | ||
| And then passed legislation to build more, saying, we don't care what you think. | ||
| Ah, slow targets. | ||
| Wonderful. | ||
| Hypersonic missiles. | ||
| And the reason that they do that is because, or the reason they can do that is because they break up the production of them throughout multiple congressional districts. | ||
| So you'll have The pieces that go into tanks made throughout the whole country. | ||
| So no one person can say, we're going to stop this. | ||
| Because everybody's like, well, if we stop making the tanks, there's going to be job loss nationwide or in these 50 congressional districts. | ||
| And the Congress people are like, no, you're not going to do anything that's going to affect our job market. | ||
| So the incentive is not just from the government. | ||
| It's or it's not just the government wants these things. | ||
| It's the way that the government has set up intentionally set up the production of these of weapons and stuff like that. | ||
| It's it's throughout the whole economy. | ||
| And so you've got you've got the incentive from multiple people in Congress to say no to vote against it. | ||
| Did you want to add anything to that before we jump in? | ||
| I was just going to say, I remember Matt Gaetz voted for, you know, he's been very good on the wars, some wars in the Middle East. | ||
| He introduced resolutions to leave Syria and stuff. | ||
| Unfortunately, he just voted to give Israel $14 billion to fund that war. | ||
| But I remember he voted for the NDAA. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Which one? | ||
| And he just said, I think it was recent. | ||
| Oh, okay, a recent one. | ||
| I don't remember exactly when, but I just remember he went on Twitter and he's like, I voted for the NDAA because- Real quick, National Defense Authorization Act. | ||
| Yeah, sorry. | ||
| So it's the annual, basically, Pentagon spending bill that they pass every year. | ||
| And Gates just said, I voted for the NDAA because it brings jobs to the district that I represent in Florida and that's that. | ||
| And it's like, okay, at least he's honest about what he's doing. | ||
| I would hope to see him vote against it because it's just such a behemoth. | ||
| Did he vote for this $14 billion package? | ||
| Was it just that, or was it part of an omnibus? | ||
| It was $14.3 billion for military aid for Israel. | ||
| The way that Johnson, the new House Speaker, and his people wrote it up was that it cuts the $14 billion from the IRS. | ||
| right right right and sends it to which is such a Republican move it's like oh | ||
| yeah we're gonna make some cuts and send it to fund a war in Gaza so well to be | ||
| fair it is better than just adding to the debt but it's still not good I think | ||
| NDA's count as omnibus bills because they they have all kinds of stuff so I | ||
| do want to jump to this very very big story but the first thing I'll announce | ||
| is Mark Zuckerberg tore his ACL He was training for an MMA fight. | ||
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| And I just want to say shout out. | ||
| Sorry to hear it, buddy. | ||
| I hope you get better. | ||
| ACL tears are no joke. | ||
| PRP, dude. | ||
| You got this. | ||
| He's got a picture of him in the hospital. | ||
| No, I sincerely mean it. | ||
| Not a fan of a lot of things that Facebook has done. | ||
| But man, ACL tear is brutal. | ||
| Elon, you should reach out. | ||
| Send your well wishes. | ||
| Elon was joking with Joe Rogan about how he was going to dominate Mark in an MMA match. | ||
| And it was fun laughing and laughing. | ||
| So hopefully, Elon, you'll Yeah, your ACL is like a strong, strong component in your knee, and this can end careers for pro athletes and stuff. | ||
| Well, Mark has access to the best medicine on earth. | ||
| I'm excited to watch his recovery. | ||
| He like really trains, right? | ||
| Elon Musk probably couldn't take it. | ||
| Yeah, Elon was like, I'm a walrus. | ||
| If I lay on him, he won't be able to get up. | ||
| Joe's like, that's not how it works, dude. | ||
| He'll get put in a submission. | ||
| If you get choked, you're done. | ||
| Yup, yup, he'll tap out. | ||
| Okay, we got a big story. | ||
| This is a story from the Daily Mail about vaccines. | ||
| And vaccines are on the ballot. | ||
| The first thing I want to say is, ladies and gentlemen, don't take medical advice from podcasters, and talk to your doctor about what's right for you. | ||
| But this story is very interesting as per the sentiment held by people in this country and how it relates to R.F.K. | ||
| Jr. | ||
| versus Trump and Biden. | ||
| Check out this headline. | ||
| According to the Daily Mail, a quarter of Americans say COVID-19 shots are unsafe and that they know someone who died from one. | ||
| As 2024 wannabes, DeSantis and R.F.K. | ||
| Jr. | ||
| take skepticism on the campaign trail. | ||
| I think this number is highly questionable. | ||
| That one in four Americans know someone who died, that is a strong, like, I think we'd hear in the news about that many people having died. | ||
| That being said, I want to clarify. | ||
| If there are 10 people, and they all know Bill, and Bill dies, and then you ask these 10 people, do you know someone who died? | ||
| They'll all say yes. | ||
| Oh, that's a great point. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| It's still just one person. | ||
| And even people that know them, who know Bill, might also say yes. | ||
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Right. | |
| Friend of my friend, and they're like, oh, yeah. | ||
| It's like, oh, I know someone who died. | ||
| Yeah, my friend's friend, Bill. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| So we don't know exactly what this means. | ||
| Also, I didn't get asked, so they didn't do a holistic approach. | ||
| It actually does say, despite several attempts, Ian Crossland did not respond to our question. | ||
| And I never will. | ||
| Into your emails, Ian. | ||
| I want to stress, YouTube calm down. | ||
| I am not talking about this because I care to talk about the efficacy or issues around vaccines. | ||
| That's for you guys and your doctors or whatever. | ||
| I do think it is politically important that people feel this way because there's a question of We're talking with Luke Rutkowski about RFK Jr., and Luke was saying there's a good possibility that RFK could take votes from Trump because Trump was bad on vaccine mandates and lockdowns, and RFK Jr. | ||
| is good. | ||
| And I say, yeah, but the core ideologies of RFK Jr. | ||
| and Trump are so different. | ||
| I think you're going to find somebody who says, I'm willing to forgive Trump on a lot of things because he's anti-woke, he's challenging his government contracts, no new wars, etc. | ||
| And RFK Jr. | ||
| called Columbus Day Indigenous People's Day, and that's like a red flag for a lot of people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So that being said, let me read a little bit. | ||
| They say, Americans are growing more skeptical about the safety and effectiveness of vaccines, and politicians from left and right are echoing these fears in their campaigns to win the White House. | ||
| Polling this week shows that while most voters trust shots for COVID-19, MMR, and other bugs, millions more have changed their minds in recent months and no longer see them as safe. | ||
| The surveys come as health chiefs warn of rampant online misinformation linking injections with death and autism, and that ivermectin, an anti-parasitic drug typically used in animals, can treat COVID-19. | ||
| Again, don't take medical advice from a news organization either. | ||
| Despite these warnings and their implications for public health, two politicians are building vaccine skepticism into their 2024 campaign. | ||
| It's DeSantis and it's RFK, but here's the image. | ||
| Look at RFK's face! | ||
| It's the most hideous, angry... So here's some questions. | ||
| They asked, is the COVID-19 vaccine safe? | ||
| In August of 2022, 73% said yes and 18% said no. | ||
| As of October 2023, 66% say yes and 24% say no. | ||
| That's really interesting. | ||
| They asked, do you know someone personally who died from side effects of the COVID-19 vaccine? | ||
| 24% said yes, 69% said no. | ||
| They ask, is increased vaccine use linked to kids getting autism? | ||
| 10% said yes in April of 2021. | ||
| As of October this year, 16% say yes. | ||
| And then here's a big one. | ||
| If there was a major class action lawsuit against pharmaceutical companies for vaccine side effects, how likely would you be to join the lawsuit? | ||
| 24%, very likely. | ||
| 18%, somewhat likely. | ||
| Not very likely, 22. | ||
| And not likely at all, 25, with 11 not sure. | ||
| The plurality is not likely. | ||
| And they ask, is Ivermectin an effective treatment? | ||
| In September of 21, 10% said yes. | ||
| As of this month, 26% said yes. | ||
| And I want to stress for the 800th time, I am just reading polls. | ||
| Calm down, YouTube. | ||
| Yeah, not all vaccines are the same, and it's not fair to classify them as such. | ||
| Well-tested medicine is very different than untested medicine. | ||
| I like not having polio. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And the main point here is, What is shifting the American perspective on this issue? | ||
| Well, let's first find out how many people got polled here. | ||
| This is an important aspect of this one, because if it's just a thousand people, then I'm going to stop reading Daily Mail. | ||
| Like, that is a gross miscategorization of one in four Americans. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| It could be a highly biased poll. | ||
| I think it's Rasmussen Reports and the Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania. | ||
| Wow! | ||
| Rasmussen's usually pretty good. | ||
| But Rasmussen and University of Pennsylvania. | ||
| If it was just Rasmussen, I'd say Rasmussen gets a lot right. | ||
| You know, we'll see. | ||
| The both of them together, I say, OK, that's really interesting. | ||
| Again, this is not a poll about whether or not they vaccines actually cause issues. | ||
| It's something is shifting the perspective of the American population. | ||
| This is going to play a big role. | ||
| I'm wondering, however, you know, when Luke said Trump was bad on vaccines and lockdowns, so RFK Jr. | ||
| may pull from him. | ||
| Yeah, but Biden was worse. | ||
| Biden and Democrats were 10 times more into lockdowns and vaccine stuff than Trump. | ||
| Yeah, but Trump was in when all the worst stuff happened. | ||
| When it came to the lockdowns, at least. | ||
| I guess he was the first guy who said, we're going to shut down for a couple weeks. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So, and I think, you know, because you mentioned how RFK Jr. | ||
| and Trump are very different ideologically, but I mean, so many people who vote, I mean, this is just people I know who voted for Trump. | ||
| They're not like ideological, really. | ||
| They just go in and vote Trump because they don't like the other person. | ||
| Like a lot of people voted like that. | ||
| So if they see RFK Jr., And he's really good on this issue. | ||
| And this is a big thing. | ||
| Just COVID in general really affected so many people, you know, so if he's good on it, that might just be enough for people. | ||
| I think that that's an issue that could flip a lot of Trump voters. | ||
| I'm just really curious. | ||
| What do you think is causing this shift in the American public's perception? | ||
| I mean, the corporate press has been insistent on vaccines. | ||
| And you know, we here, as good stewards of information, we don't break any of these YouTube rules. | ||
| How could these people possibly hold these views? | ||
| I think that it's the fact that people mistrust authority. | ||
| You know, trust in the media and trust in the government had been going down for a long time prior to COVID, and COVID just annihilated a lot of people's trust. | ||
| There's a lot of people that are Horribly embarrassed by the the way that they supported the government that they believe things that the news said and I think that that this is the the the result of that if you have a society that | ||
| generally has a declining in trust and a, and honestly, we are more cynical than we've ever been. You know, | ||
| it's like being earnest is now looked at as something to be mocked. | ||
| And so believing that what the news tells you is, is something that will get you mocked nowadays. | ||
| If you say, Oh, I believe if you have enough followers on Twitter, you can say, I believe anyone, anything. | ||
| It could be anything at all. | ||
| And someone's going to say, you're wrong. | ||
| And you're dumb for believing it. | ||
| There is this impulse that people have to be the one person that has the inside track. | ||
| And so people are afraid to believe things. | ||
| They're afraid to admit that they believe things because they're going to get mocked. | ||
| They're going to get called out. | ||
| They're going to be people that say, You're dumb for believing that. | ||
| Didn't you know? | ||
| How could you believe that? | ||
| I mean, I see it all the time in my Twitter feed. | ||
| Oh, how could you believe that? | ||
| You know this, and how could you not? | ||
| So I think that that disincentivizes people to believe anything. | ||
| They're afraid to say that they believe anything. | ||
| They're afraid to say, oh, I think this is actually true. | ||
| And they don't know where to go to get information that they feel like that should be trusted. | ||
| Well, let me let me piggyback off of that. | ||
| Did this article even link to the study, to the poll? | ||
| Or are they just like, a poll said one performer... I don't even trust this story. | ||
| I think they're lying. | ||
| I don't even think it's one of the four. | ||
| They cited Rasmussen and University of Pennsylvania. | ||
| But did they link to it? | ||
| But what do you mean, like to the crosstabs? | ||
| Yeah, like, show me how many people they polled. | ||
| If they polled a thousand people, and they're saying that that extrapolates to 350 million, I'm gonna be like, get out of my face. | ||
| I think I'm gonna have to go directly to Rasmussen for that. | ||
| When you say that there's like a shift here, like, has people, has there really been polls asking this question before? | ||
| You know, we don't really know if this reflects like a shift. | ||
| It looks like they had previous polls asking the same question. | ||
| Oh, yeah, you're right. | ||
| Now, that aside... Let me see if I can pull up the crosstabs. | ||
| That aside, I think that rushing the COVID vaccine, the warp speed thing, tweaked a lot of people. | ||
| That was like, I'm afraid for my life because of COVID, and I'll do anything you say mentality. | ||
| And then when we saw rises in myocarditis, that's terrifying. | ||
| Yeah, and Trump still brags about warp speed, right? | ||
| When they ask him about it, he says how proud he was. | ||
| He literally brags about anything that he possibly could. | ||
| That's what I kind of wanted to ask you guys about, because I know, Tim, I don't know if you consider yourself a MAGA guy, but... No. | ||
| I'm voting for Trump. | ||
| He's far from perfect, but he's the best we've got. | ||
| It just seems like there's a pretty big distinct difference between the MAGA movement and the things that Trump actually says now. | ||
| Uh, but I know he represents something more so. | ||
| Yeah, definitely. | ||
| RFK Jr., I gotta say, he was a big disappointment, um, because, you know, I'm kind of a single-issue type of guy, and he came out really strong on Ukraine, you know, very well. | ||
| And then, uh, people started calling him... Sorry, 1500 Adults. | ||
| Yeah, it's just such a disingenuous title of the article. | ||
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1,500? | |
| I mean, that's a typical polling. | ||
| But what do you mean? | ||
| It says poll finds. | ||
| Mm-hmm, poll finds. | ||
| Oh, it's a fair point. | ||
| You should have said one in four of 1,500 polled. | ||
| Like, that's not 350 million. | ||
| Polls are typically like 1,000 to 1,500. | ||
| 1,500 is actually above average. | ||
| So you have to kind of consider that. | ||
| Yeah, you're right. | ||
| I consider that it's highly manipulative. | ||
| It's just an absolute waste of a time. | ||
| It is the most disingenuous, misleading title to say that one in four Americans think it when they polled 1,500 people. | ||
| Ian, I don't think you understand how polls work. | ||
| I understand completely how they work, and they're massively manipulative. | ||
| They are manipulative. | ||
| Most people understand that they're not trying to... They're not supposed to be, but the way the article phrased it, it makes it extremely manipulative. | ||
| But the point that I'm making is most people understand that if you are talking about polls, | ||
| you're not talking about a poll of a hundred thousand people like the most actually. | ||
| What was that civics.com? | ||
| They have polls that because they're so expansive, there's 300,000 really? | ||
| Yeah, it's good on them. | ||
| But still most most polls like they're not hitting, you know, but this was a shock title | ||
| to get clicks. | ||
| It's Daily Mail. | ||
| Sure, but it's a Rasmussen and, what is it, the, I want to get the name right, the Annenberg Public Policy Center. | ||
| So, the way polls are done is through, there's a scientific polling method where they take a wide range of individuals, they whittle down their networks. | ||
| There's bad things and huge margins of errors when it's done improperly, but you basically try and create a cross-section of America, Isolate it down to the key demographic areas where you notice these ideological shifts, and then poll a thousand people, and then figure out what the percentages are, and then try and, like, that's, it's normal. | ||
| And you can argue there's a margin of error in these things, but right, polls, no one can see the future. | ||
| What were you gonna say, David? | ||
| I interrupted you on accident. | ||
| Oh no, I was just wondering, it wasn't really related, I was just wondering what you guys think of RFK Jr. | ||
| I mean, have you had him on here? | ||
| I like the fact that he's countered to the narrative that the government puts out. | ||
| I think that he's terrible on literally everything except for vaccines. | ||
| Yeah I would say so again with the foreign policy like he was he's very good on Ukraine and he explains it well he interviews people you know he had his own podcast he was interviewing people I know this guy named Ben Abloh who wrote a book called how the West brought war to Ukraine it's like a very short book that came out right after the invasion explaining how the US provoked it so we interviewed him and he really understands the issue but when it comes to Israel people smear him you know they they called him an anti-semite and he just went all in on Israel and when this thing happened it's just like He says that the U.S. | ||
| needs to support an Israeli sustained military campaign. | ||
| I need to issue a clarification. | ||
| The data comes from two different polls. | ||
| Rasmussen and Enberg did different polls. | ||
| They're just being mentioned in the same article. | ||
| You got the Rasmussen was 1,500, the other one... No, no, no. | ||
| 1,110 was Rasmussen. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Rasmussen was actually one of the most accurate polls in I think 2016 and 2018. | ||
| I think I consistently actually. | ||
| When the polling data comes out showing how many people voted, Rasmussen almost always nails it. | ||
| For the record, I really, really like accurate polling. | ||
| Like, if you can get 10,000 people and you get an accurate readout of what those 10,000 people think, maybe you can be like, The issue is if Rasmussen does five polls and then they say, here's what people are saying, 51%, 49%. | ||
| Then the election happens and they go, yeah, it was, they were right, 51, 49. | ||
| How about that? | ||
| And they do it five times, then they come up with another poll. | ||
| I'm like, okay, I'll lean towards believing them. | ||
| Ian, I just want to push back a little bit on what you said. | ||
| If you're dealing with a country with 330 million people, Why is 10,000 acceptable and 1,500 not? | ||
| No, I'm saying in a small town of 10,000 and you pull 10,000 people. | ||
| I like those kind of pulls. | ||
| Or even if there's like maybe 15,000 people and you pull 10,000 of them. | ||
| You need like 70 or 80. | ||
| The one that's accurate. | ||
| If you want to come out and make a statement that one in four Americans believe something, you better poll at least 90% of them. | ||
| Ian, you're not asking for a poll, you're asking for an election. | ||
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I'm asking for a real poll, not these junk polls that they do. | |
| Polls are kind of the best you have when it comes to the things you're looking to find out, when it comes to election polling. | ||
| They're better than I think that's lazy thinking, just because that's how it's always been done, just deal with it kind of mentality. | ||
| Well, you're saying that's just, like, the best we can do? | ||
| He didn't say we shouldn't improve it. | ||
| I'm saying it's just, when it comes to, you know, especially elections, when you, like, it is kind of your best indication of where people are at, is polling. | ||
| And the question is, has the polling organization been accurate in the past? | ||
| And then, if we look at Rasmussen and find that they typically are very accurate, you discrediting them because you don't like polling methodology makes no sense. | ||
| I just credit them because they pulled 1,100 people and then they claimed to speak for 330 million. | ||
| No, the article did. | ||
| I think, you know, if you're saying that they should just pull more people, I think that's a reasonable thing to say. | ||
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100%. | |
| And most polls actually say 47 people of those polled said. | ||
| Yeah, or that's what they should say, not the shock statement of... You're complaining about a news organization, not the polling institutions. | ||
| No, I think, you know... Speaking of polls, there was just a poll conducted by... I forget the name of the place, but it was about Israel and Gaza, and it said the majority of Americans support a ceasefire. | ||
| It said the majority of Republicans do, which, like, I almost didn't believe it. | ||
| You know, I think that a lot of Americans do want a ceasefire, but it was like 80% of Democrats and 56% of Republicans. | ||
| You know, they polled like 1,500 people. | ||
| Trump people don't want war. | ||
| Yeah, you're right. | ||
| I think a lot of the ordinary Trump people don't want war, even if it is Israel, but unfortunately the MAGA politicians seem to favor it. | ||
| I think one issue... Hold on, derail. | ||
| Another issue I have with polling is, and this is a little bit off base, is that I feel like it is a self-fulfilling prophecy sometimes. | ||
| If they poll people and they're like, 80% want this, then people will see that and be like, yeah, me too. | ||
| That can kind of That's why their political polls will often try and skew it in favor of their politician, to convince people that our guy's the winner. | ||
| Because people want to vote for the winner. | ||
| It's so weird. | ||
| If you see the polls, the election polls right now, I mean, Trump is leading the pack still by so much. | ||
| So that indication, like, we don't know the exact, what the exact vote would actually be, but from constant polls showing him so far ahead, it gives you an idea. | ||
| I got a question for you. | ||
| We've been looking at these polls. | ||
| RFK entering the race as an independent. | ||
| Do you think that he pulls more votes away from Trump or from Biden? | ||
| I think Trump. | ||
| I actually do think Trump. | ||
| Again, because just, you know, the average Trump voter might not be so ideologically drawn to Trump. | ||
| I know so many people have voted for Trump in 2016. | ||
| It was just a vote against the establishment. | ||
| Same thing in 2020, just a lot of people that didn't like Biden. | ||
| I also knew a lot of people that didn't vote for him that did it because they were kind of sick of it. | ||
| But I think this COVID issue, again, when it comes to Americans, issues that really affect them, I mean, this is something that really affected Americans. | ||
| Me, personally, I, you know, my wife's business closed down, we moved out of the city, we, you know, changed our whole life. | ||
| And it's something that people are going to remember. | ||
| You know, this is, this was a very, Serious time in in America, you know, it's kind of like if you think back on it, you know, I was living in Brooklyn at the time with the lockdowns and it was just looking back like it was so insane and everybody went along with it and I saw Andrew Cuomo and when I would go get a coffee on the TV with his nipples sticking out telling us to stay in our houses and it was crazy and I was so angry about it. | ||
| Angry enough that we left. | ||
| And, you know, I'm fortunate enough that I was okay. | ||
| You know, my wife's business closing down. | ||
| We were fine. | ||
| We were able to get out, move out to the country. | ||
| But a lot of people didn't have that option. | ||
| So, you know, I think he could definitely pull some Trump voters that still feel that anger about what happened in 2020. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| Now, what I would love to talk about is the vaccine, the COVID vaccine, or the series of COVID vaccines. | ||
| I don't want to start going too hard on it on YouTube. | ||
| I know that YouTube has requested that we don't, you know, splatter our opinions about it. | ||
| I would love to, because I think this is just, so many people were traumatized by this experience of the COVID vaccine, or the COVID virus, and then the vaccinations. | ||
| I mean, the thing about, you know, I left New York before this happened, You had to show them your vaccination papers to go into a restaurant. | ||
| I mean, that is insane. | ||
| That is stuff that the anti-vaxxers were saying a few decades ago that people were like, not even a few decades ago, not long before that, people were like, that's crazy. | ||
| That'll never happen. | ||
| In 2020, they were like, they're going to start doing these passports. | ||
| I was like, shut up. | ||
| No, they're not. | ||
| And they did. | ||
| In New York, where I used to live. | ||
| They tried the app. | ||
| I can't imagine it. | ||
| They tried doing the app and nobody would do it. | ||
| They wanted a social credit score. | ||
| So you know what's interesting? | ||
| So RFK Jr., Israel, so that model, what New York City did, and I think other cities did it, I think DC might have did it for a little while, you know, the vaccine passport was modeled on Israel's Green Pass. | ||
| Israel, like, was very, you know, vaccine mandate and lockdowns and stuff, and I believe it was called the Green Pass. | ||
| So kind of one of the most intrusive things that they did to us was based on Israel's model. | ||
| China, on the other hand, they had their lockdowns that were really insane, but they actually, they tried to implement some sort of vaccine mandate in Beijing and people were like, no, we're not doing that. | ||
| And then they gave up. | ||
| So it's kind of interesting, just the differences in the countries. | ||
| Like it's not something you would really expect that you would just assume China had like a vaccine mandate, but they didn't. | ||
| Like in that sense of you have to walk in and show them your card or scan something. | ||
| But yeah, it's based off Israel's model. | ||
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Wow. | |
| I was thinking the other day how funny it was, and maybe it's funny strange, not funny haha, that it was COVID. | ||
| They were like, it's so dangerous that you have to get tested to find out if you even have it. | ||
| And I'm like, okay, really? | ||
| One thing I'm proud of is that I've never taken a COVID test. | ||
| And that wasn't really, like, intentional, but I just never did. | ||
| I took one, and I tickled the back of my nose, and I was just sneezing and blowing all the snot out. | ||
| Dude, it felt so good. | ||
| I was outside doing it, I was like, oh yeah, rolling it around. | ||
| Maybe I should take one, that sounds fun. | ||
| It felt really nice. | ||
| Okay, that's awful. | ||
| Yeah, so now everyone knows. | ||
| But, back to politics. | ||
| That was a rough week. | ||
| I don't see... I think RFK Jr. | ||
| pulls from both Trump and Biden, but 2-1 Biden from Trump. | ||
| Do you think so? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Yeah, because RFK Jr. | ||
| is a liberal. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| His core is liberal. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| He's Kennedy. | ||
| He's got the Kennedy name. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And he's running on that. | ||
| Ian's pointed out when he talks about his family that his family would not vote for Trump. | ||
| They would vote for Biden. | ||
| They might vote for RFK. | ||
| I think that's just like a really simple way of breaking down what this might be. | ||
| They did vote for Biden. | ||
| I don't know what they're up to these days. | ||
| I should talk to him about it. | ||
| I mean, Biden's mental degradation has become very apparent. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| If the poll is for Democrats, five points towards RFK, meaning your average person has a 95% chance of voting for Joe Biden, that still means 5% vote for RFK Jr., whereas the poll for Trump supporters is like one. | ||
| What are your feelings on Vivek Ramaswamy? | ||
| Uh, he says, you know, a lot of good things, but I think his foreign policy, he's pretty off base, uh, on some things with, you know, Taiwan. | ||
| For instance, he, he wants to commit to defending Taiwan, but he also says things like, oh, once we get semiconductor independence, then we're not gonna, uh, you know, worry about Taiwan anymore. | ||
| But he's still saying that, you know, to deter war, we should, you know, commit to war with Taiwan and also his plan to end the Ukraine war. | ||
| He's like, I'm going to get Putin to sever his military alliance with China. | ||
| And that's how we're going to end it. | ||
| It's not really a realistic plan. | ||
| You know, they don't really have a formal military alliance. | ||
| They've been building one up and doing drills and stuff. | ||
| But also just they're not going to go for that. | ||
| I mean, trust has been destroyed between the West and Russia. | ||
| You know, there's going to have to be some real good faith negotiations and, you know, trying to just get something like that. | ||
| Like China and Russia have really built up their trade relationship in recent years and they're Very reliant on each other now. | ||
| They're not just going to give that up for the U.S. | ||
| That could change in eight, four, eight years. | ||
| Somebody will come in and say, you know what? | ||
| Forget that. | ||
| We're going to move, you know, move NATO into Ukraine. | ||
| Forget that guarantee we gave you. | ||
| We need to rebuild trust before you could do something like that. | ||
| Yeah, a new administration is definitely a big thing. | ||
| Putin's not a dumb guy. | ||
| And he also tries to play it off of Richard Nixon going to China and shaking hands with Mao. | ||
| But Nixon had the Sino-Soviet split to capitalize. | ||
| They were already enemies, the Soviet Union and Communist China, at that point. | ||
| That's not the situation right now with Putin and Xi Jinping. | ||
| They're best buddies right now. | ||
| So it's a very different time. | ||
| And I actually spoke with Chas Freeman about this. | ||
| He was in the US government in various positions, but he was actually Nixon's interpreter when he went to Mao. | ||
| And he agreed that the idea that it's anything similar to that is just off base. | ||
| So I think there's other ways to argue for ending the Ukraine war, just the fact that it's not in American interest. | ||
| That it's every day that we continue it. | ||
| It's very dangerous. | ||
| We're spending all this money. | ||
| We're going bankrupt. | ||
| I think that should really be the argument. | ||
| And we see that argument from other Republicans. | ||
| Do you think it's just to declare like a white peace and cede the eastern Donbass to Russia? | ||
| Um, what I think should happen? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Uh, it's tough to say. | ||
| I mean, um, you know, right now I think really the U.S. | ||
| just has to end it and make Ukraine negotiate something and whatever that is. | ||
| And, you know, realistically, at this point, Russia's not going to give that territory up. | ||
| And, you know, it's the Donbass and Zaporozhye and Kherson, you know, we're not, we shouldn't be risking nuclear war for those territories. | ||
| You know, it shouldn't have gotten to this point. | ||
| It didn't have to get to this point. | ||
| But now that it's at this point, we need to end this thing. | ||
| We need to end this thing tomorrow. | ||
| Because again, we could wake up and be at war with Russia. | ||
| Again, assassinations in Russia with, you know, CIA trained groups killing people. | ||
| It's, you know, the fact that we're at this point is really unbelievable. | ||
| Well, I would love to just drill down into the philosophy of what's going on in the Middle East, in Israel, and Palestine. | ||
| It is, however, 9.31. | ||
| I think we're about to take some Super Chats. | ||
| We are going to Super Chats! | ||
| YouTube's been giving us the business, though. | ||
| The Super Chats aren't loading properly. | ||
| Load me. | ||
| But it's fine, it's fine. | ||
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| We do it. | ||
| We're gonna pull up these Super Chats, and they're there. | ||
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| Alright, let's go! | ||
| Shaky Owns says, is Steven Marsh's next book titled Canadian Delicacies, 1001 excuses for eating boot leather? | ||
| That's brutal. | ||
| Here's my assessment of Steven. | ||
| I think he's a good dude. | ||
| The first time we had him on, it was an excellent conversation. | ||
| I think he and I... | ||
| Can see the same thing. | ||
| However, he's coming from the establishment perspective and we're coming from a moderate perspective. | ||
| And so this is one thing to try bringing up on the show. | ||
| The Culture War podcast is that. | ||
| He said something like, there are more seditionists on the right than the left. | ||
| I said, what's your metric for that? | ||
| He goes, court cases. | ||
| And then I said, okay, where are the court cases around 529? | ||
| He goes, what's that? | ||
| I'm like, okay, that's my point. | ||
| If his argument is, it is not that bad that far left extremists were throwing firebombs at the White House, set fire to a church, and they rushed Trump into an emergency bunker, and that doesn't warrant investigations and arrests, it's not insurrection, it's not sedition. | ||
| Well then, you're coming from a very biased perspective. | ||
| And I'm not asserting either. | ||
| I didn't say there was more on the left or the right. | ||
| I think it may be fair to say there's more on the left, but they're less extreme. | ||
| And there are very, very few on the right, but they're very extreme. | ||
| And so, uh... | ||
| But, so that means his view of what's going on, when he sees, you know, something happening that leads us to civil war, his perspective is skewed by an establishment perspective, whereas I think ours is certainly skewed by an anti-establishment perspective, but, as Phil pointed out with Jonathan Haidt's research, the right knows what the left is thinking, the left does not know what the right is thinking. | ||
| So, we are a more moderate, probably in many ways right-leaning, For a variety of reasons, basically because the left doesn't come on the show, I think the people on this show are fairly moderate. | ||
| But that means we have a more holistic view of what's going on and why, and Steven's more biased in that regard. | ||
| He thinks he's not. | ||
| I think he is. | ||
| And then he says we're biased, but it's actually really simple. | ||
| If he's coming from a left-liberal perspective, we are to the right of him because we're in the middle. | ||
| And so he doesn't know, you know, that's what I think. | ||
| But I think he's a good dude. | ||
| We had a lot of fun. | ||
| He played poker. | ||
| He's really good as well. | ||
| I really like him. | ||
| At poker. | ||
| You guys have leftists on here once in a while, right? | ||
| But they don't come on. | ||
| Well, you had Max Blumenthal. | ||
| They do! | ||
| Yeah, but Max is a good dude. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, many of these leftists... He's a leftist that I like a lot. | ||
| So, he was honest, and he was, like, impressively honest with his views and his pro-Palestine bias, he said. | ||
| But he's telling us the truth. | ||
| He said, like, it's... I get it. | ||
| I'm like, you're allowed to be in favor of Palestine. | ||
| You're allowed to even be in favor of Hamas. | ||
| I just don't like that. | ||
| So be honest about it. | ||
| So I appreciate these leftists in New York cheering for Hamas. | ||
| I appreciate that they're telling me they feel that way. | ||
| I mean, how many of them are they really cheering for Hamas? | ||
| In New York, literally. | ||
| Almost every rally they're cheering for Hamas. | ||
| I know that there's, again, you know, we talked about this before the show, I know people involved in these rallies and stuff. | ||
| Explicitly cheering for Hamas. | ||
| Yeah, but I know there's a lot, I think that might just be being amplified because I know, again, a lot of Jewish anti-war activists. | ||
| Absolutely, and this means... Organizing these things, leading these things. | ||
| And that means the people you know organizing things are handing microphones to people to cheer on Hamas. | ||
| What do you think, like, when you see, like, the leader of Hamas talking about, like, killing all the Jews? | ||
| What leader of Hamas? | ||
| The spokesman that was on recently saying that they're going to keep fighting? | ||
| But that's not even the point. | ||
| I mean, yeah, that's not the point because... The point I'm making is this. | ||
| At almost all of these rallies in New York, like Times Square specifically. | ||
| I'm not talking about like Grand Central, where it's people sitting down. | ||
| You have a woman get up and say, our freedom fighters paraglided into Israel and fired five thousand... Okay, that's Hamas. | ||
| And then you had one guy said, our freedom fighters kidnapped a whole bunch of hipsters. | ||
| I'm sure they're doing great. | ||
| But there's so many of these. | ||
| I don't think there's as many as you think. | ||
| Again, I think this is being amplified because there's like an internet propaganda war going on. | ||
| I think that's... I mean, you see the big marches that the people... What does from the river to the sea mean? | ||
| That means that from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea, Palestinians will have equal rights. | ||
| That's where that chant came from. | ||
| I don't believe that. | ||
| That is like, defund the police doesn't really mean defund the police. | ||
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| So from the River of the Sea, you're saying does not mean the abolition of the Jewish state? | ||
| It could mean it to some people. | ||
| If they want one state that's not a Jewish state, that could mean that. | ||
| It means different things to different people. | ||
| I know the Likud founding document says basically from Jordan to the sea, it will be Israeli sovereign territory. | ||
| But there are Arabs in the Knesset, right? | ||
| There are Arabs that are in the parliament in Israel. | ||
| If the Palestinians had control over Israel and it was Palestine, there wouldn't be Jews. | ||
| I mean, that's what I don't buy. | ||
| I and I don't I mean, I understand there's people that are going to say, oh, they wouldn't blah, blah. | ||
| I don't buy it for a second. | ||
| And the reason I don't is because there are an if Hamas, right, if the attack on the seventh, if Hamas were like super soldiers, they would have killed everybody. | ||
| But they're not. | ||
| They're not. | ||
| But there are enough people that hate all the Jews in in the Middle East to kill all the Jews. | ||
| Well, there's like 16 million. | ||
| Let's let's slow down. | ||
| Max brought this up. | ||
| He said they want to return to their ancestral homeland, right? | ||
| Okay, so what does that mean? | ||
| If Israel removes the barriers of Gaza and says everyone is now free to move out the country, what happens? | ||
| What do I think would happen? | ||
| If Israel took down all of the fencing around Gaza and said, everyone in Gaza, you are now free to move out the country. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I'm not sure what would happen. | ||
| Would the people that Max said want their ancestral land back try to get it back? | ||
| I think some people might. | ||
| Some people? | ||
| It's a realistic thing. | ||
| Like, I agree that the kind of the right of return that the people, the Children of refugees in Gaza that want to go back to, you know, their homes that their parents or grandparents were kicked out of is not really a realistic thing. | ||
| But, I mean, we're talking about a peace deal essentially that wouldn't happen if them just opening the fence and letting them go. | ||
| I'm not saying that's going to happen. | ||
| They need to negotiate, you know, a real peace. | ||
| I get that, but that's not the point. | ||
| The point is... But the more that this keeps going on and they keep killing children, I mean... But now you're shifting away from what My point is, when protesters say, from the river to the sea, you are giving them the benefit of the doubt when what you're giving them makes literally no sense as to their own arguments. | ||
| If their argument is a right to return to land, which currently has houses and families living in it, then you would argue that the nicest way to view it is that they will come enter those homes and say, we live here now too. | ||
| That absolutely will result in violence. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, the thing is, like, when it comes to a one-state solution, with the things that Israel's doing in the West Bank, right now they're still kicking people out of their homes, especially since things popped off on October 7th. | ||
| You know, a thousand Palestinians have been kicked out of their houses by settlers. | ||
| I'm not here- No, I know you're not saying that, but you're talking- I'm talking about leftists- Right now, if they just open it- but leftists, but we're- I'm talking about protests in the United States. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Where they're either explicitly defending Hamas, because this is what we're talking about. | ||
| I said, you've got people protesting in support of Hamas. | ||
| I think that's a very small minority. | ||
| And then I said, what does River to the Sea mean? | ||
| Because you have high school students chanting it. | ||
| And if the argument is, Palestinians will have equal rights, that would mean people in Gaza can freely move about the country, correct? | ||
| And the right of return is explicitly, they want the land back. | ||
| Which means, from the River to the Sea, in the nicest interpretation means, mass violence in Israel. | ||
| No, it doesn't. | ||
| How do you get your land back? | ||
| Are they going to go and file... Well, that's assuming that that's the deal, that, okay, you guys can have your houses back. | ||
| That's not going to be the deal. | ||
| They're not just going to let people, okay, you could go now, go, run, you know. | ||
| So the argument would be that from the river to the sea just literally means they want to try and go to Tel Aviv. | ||
| It means equal rights. | ||
| Yeah, they want to go to the beach. | ||
| That's something kids in the West Bank always say, that they want to go see the beach. | ||
| They can't go see the beach. | ||
| They live under military occupation. | ||
| Their entire life is under control of the Israeli military. | ||
| And, you know, we talk about what happened on October 7th. | ||
| You know, there was an attempt at nonviolent protests in 2018 and 2019 called the Great March of Return, where they just walked to the border fence. | ||
| And some people were throwing rocks and lighting stuff on fire, but mostly... Max didn't mention that. | ||
| It was an unarmed protest. | ||
| Max said they started shooting protesters. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| No, but they were shooting protesters. | ||
| They were shooting unarmed people. | ||
| They shot somebody in a wheelchair. | ||
| They shot women, medics, very clearly medics, journalists. | ||
| They killed hundreds of people. | ||
| My simple thing for all of this is I literally, as it pertains to American policy, don't care about the moral arguments of war in foreign lands because the argument is we can't adjudicate this for them. | ||
| We are not the world police. | ||
| I agree, yeah. | ||
| Whenever it devolves into like, yeah, but Israel or Gaza, I'm just like, you know what? | ||
| America's not supposed to be involved. | ||
| But you were asking those questions. | ||
| But I'm not asking the questions about what Israel is doing in the West Bank versus Palestine. | ||
| I'm asking about Americans here at rallies are protesting in support of Hamas. | ||
| And you said, I think it's a small group. | ||
| My argument is Our government is helping Israel blow up apartment buildings and kill children. | ||
| Our government's doing this. | ||
| You guys are worried about, you know, the war on terror being turned in on the right wing. | ||
| I mean, this is what the war on terror looks like. | ||
| Why are you focusing on these college kids chanting this stuff when our government is doing a mass slaughter right now? | ||
| See, this is my point. | ||
| This is what it devolves into. | ||
| My argument is, there are people in the United States who are advocating for extreme... Look, if a pro-Palestine activist comes to me and says, from the river to the sea, and then they're like, we will return to our land, and we will have this back, I go, okay, and they go, help, help, they're killing our kids! | ||
| I'll be like, Bro, there's a war going on where Hamas just killed a bunch of kids and now Israel's killing more civilians because they're bombing things. | ||
| But you came out and cheered for it! | ||
| You can't come to me and cheer for the murder of civilians and then be angry that Israel's killing civilians because I'm like, you guys are in a war and one side has power. | ||
| It has nothing to do with me. | ||
| Don't cheer for civilian death and then cry about civilian death later. | ||
| I don't believe you. | ||
| I agree with that. | ||
| I don't think they should cheer civilian death. | ||
| Again, I do think that's a small minority. | ||
| And the problem is, the same argument is made by people in support of Israel, where they're like, Israel's not trying to kill civilians, they were attacked and they're retaliating, take out commanders and leaders, and now you're highlighting these civilians? | ||
| No, no, all civilian deaths are bad. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So here's where Israel wins the PR war. | ||
| Oh, one thing I want to mention. | ||
| So you had Recktenwald on the other day, and he mentioned that there was some evidence that on October 7th and the fighting that happened a few days after IDF killed some Israelis, and he didn't have a citation for that. | ||
| So that's actually something that Max Blumenthal covered at the Gray Zone, but he cited Israeli media. | ||
| And again, this is just evidence that some of the civilians might have been killed by the Israeli military. | ||
| So here's the issue I have with that. | ||
| Not that he was wrong, it's that if he said, there's been reports, it's possible when the IDF came in, fog of war, they didn't know who was shooting who, and there was friendly fire. | ||
| I'd say, well, that happens all the time. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| He said they were bombing houses and shooting people, but to come out and be like, the IDF was killing their own people and bombing houses! | ||
| I don't think he said- I mean, I just didn't get that vibe from the way Recktenwald said it, but maybe I'm just biased because I- So here's my view. | ||
| I am the United States. | ||
| I don't mean like I am literally there. | ||
| I mean like me here, I am a U.S. | ||
| citizen, and I see the Israeli side, the Palestinian side, and I'm like, man, I see civilians dying. | ||
| This is bad. | ||
| Two things. | ||
| First, the left and the pro-Palestinian side has lied about too much. | ||
| I'm not a historian on Israel-Gaza. | ||
| They said a hospital was bombed. | ||
| Lie. | ||
| They said that a refugee camp was bombed. | ||
| It wasn't a lie. | ||
| The hospital wasn't bombed. | ||
| They said it was decimated. | ||
| Who said what when that report happened that night? | ||
| Rashida Tlaib. | ||
| A lot of people said a lot of things. | ||
| 500 people died and a hospital was decimated. | ||
| And then the whole conversation was, what could have blown up a hospital? | ||
| And they were like, oh, it was a parking lot. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So then the refugee camp. | ||
| Oh, actually it's not a refugee camp. | ||
| They are refugees, technically. | ||
| Oh, right! | ||
| Technically, but it was actually a city. | ||
| And there was a lot of civilians there and the IDF admitted it. | ||
| There's a reason why they... But you're talking about lying. | ||
| Like, if you're not going to trust them because they lie all the time, the Israeli government also lies all the time. | ||
| You are correct. | ||
| And here's the problem. | ||
| As me, in the United States, I was not a historian. | ||
| The people on the left in support of Palestine lie about these things. | ||
| And then I asked the question, is Israel being honest? | ||
| You just said Israel admitted to bombing a refugee village. | ||
| So what Israel is winning in the PR war is they're saying, I'm sorry that this is happening. | ||
| It's war. | ||
| It's terrible. | ||
| We did this. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And I'm like, wow, they admitted it. | ||
| Then, Israel says, we are desperately trying not to kill civilians. | ||
| And I say, okay, I hear that. | ||
| Then, you get people on the pro-Palestine side in New York cheering for the killing of civilians, and then coming out and being like, help, help, they're killing civilians. | ||
| Hamas is also saying that they didn't mean to kill civilians. | ||
| So, if you're going to argue that Israel— Hamas is saying that they didn't mean to kill civilians. | ||
| That's what Israel's saying, and they're slaughtering civilians right now. | ||
| Look at what's happening there. | ||
| You did say, Hamas is saying that they did not mean to kill civilians. | ||
| I'm comparing it to what he said, yeah. | ||
| Right, but they said it was in the crossbar. | ||
| Nasrallah, the Hezbollah guy, you know, he's not Hamas, obviously. | ||
| I don't believe Hamas. | ||
| Okay, that's fine. | ||
| But no, no, no, because... You don't have to believe Hamas. | ||
| I don't believe them either, Phil. | ||
| Phil, settlers are not civilians. | ||
| I don't believe them either. | ||
| That's what they said, right? | ||
| No, they admitted that civilians were killed. | ||
| No, no, no, but settlers are not civilians. | ||
| This is an argument made by a Yale professor to justify the attacks Hamas committed. | ||
| My point is simply this. | ||
| I'm not here to tell you who is right or who is wrong. | ||
| I'm telling you the PR war is being won by Israel because Israel is... I think right now they're losing. | ||
| That's only on the internet. | ||
| I mean, I don't think so. | ||
| I mean we had, when we were talking to Stephen Marsh earlier, he said you realize the left died this month. | ||
| Because of what because of Palestine because of because of the activists tearing down the flyers because Or I believe that was the larger insinuation is because of what we're seeing with Like Amy Schumer for instance reposting campus reform like a conservative campus publication We are seeing mainstream celebrities now posting right-wing things and actually saying wow we were wrong about the left I can't believe we were so wrong because of how many people have she like BLM posting the paraglider Yeah, it's stupid. | ||
| We definitely gotta go to Super Chat. | ||
| Okay, but I would just say, you know, with this we see the same tactics that the left deploys when it comes to Israel. | ||
| Criticism of Israel is always called anti-semitic. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| And, you know, it's their deployment. | ||
| It's annoying. | ||
| We haven't called anyone anti-semitic. | ||
| No, no, but he's right. | ||
| It's really annoying when they're like, if you're criticizing Israel, you're anti-semitic. | ||
| No, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| If there's a war going on and someone's doing bad things in war, criticize the F out of them. | ||
| I don't care who they are. | ||
| I roast the United States all day today about the horrible things the U.S. | ||
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| It's just that I ain't Israel. | ||
| And that's another thing, if you're hanging with people that say gas the Jews, you probably | ||
| should go somewhere else. | ||
| The reason why I focus on Israel... | ||
| And I gotta be honest, if you're hanging with people who are saying glass Gaza, you got | ||
| a problem as well. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The reason why I focus my criticism on Israel, same thing with Ukraine, is because my government | ||
| is enabling this, funding this, backing this. | ||
| Israel probably wouldn't be able to go as hard as they are without the U.S. | ||
| didn't send all these aircraft carriers to the Middle East. | ||
| We're completely enabling this, and again, to the people that are being killed, they're being killed by Israel and the United States. | ||
| And the U.S. | ||
| is sending troops on the ground, and we probably already have special forces in Gaza. | ||
| But let's read more Super Chats, otherwise we're just gonna... | ||
| All right, David Ray says, you must have J.P. | ||
| Sears on your show ASAP. | ||
| J.P. | ||
| Sears is a standing invitation to come on any one of our shows or even just to come here and hang out and have a slice of pizza because we're big fans. | ||
| He's awesome. | ||
| But as I always say, it's you know, like we tried getting Cenk Uygur on the show for a long time and he wouldn't do it. | ||
| And I'm like, well, he hosts his own show. | ||
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| He's not going to cancel his show to come here, but he's running for president. | ||
| So he did. | ||
| We're happy he did. | ||
| If J.P. | ||
| Sears ever has time, Or he's on the East Coast, we'd love to have him. | ||
| But I'm not surprised people who host shows are too busy to come and be on my show. | ||
| Typically, people who come to the show do different, are not hosts, and they have day jobs where it's like, oh, I can swing by that night and do the show. | ||
| But, uh, you know, we'd love to have him. | ||
| We'd love to have him. | ||
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| Let's, uh, here we go. | ||
| Dalamar says, Forkliftgate is real. | ||
| Texas sued and got a temporary injunction against the US government to stop messing with the wire. | ||
| The forklift was part of the case. | ||
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| Was it a forklift? | ||
| I think it was a backloader, though. | ||
| It wasn't a forklift, right? | ||
| It looked like a back-end loader. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, no, a forklift. | ||
| It's funny because nobody knows what they're called, and I googled it like a week ago. | ||
| Because I'm like, what do we call those things? | ||
| They're not cranes. | ||
| Yeah, well, back-end loader. | ||
| Right, exactly. | ||
| It's a backhoe. | ||
| Yeah, backhoe, back-end loader. | ||
| A backhoe, right. | ||
| My kid's learning. | ||
| My two-year-old knows all the construction vehicles, like all the kid shows on YouTube. | ||
| It's like all tractors and stuff. | ||
| It's kind of cool. | ||
| Check out Open Source Ecology. | ||
| Build your own. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, shout out to Marcin Jakubowski. | ||
| All right, let's go. | ||
| Frag Null says, TimCast2024, and yeah, my payday is your payday, woo woo. | ||
| I want good silicon, so Taiwan, Silicon Forges is good to protect. | ||
| Talk amongst yourself. | ||
| No, no Bolton, the mustache. | ||
| We have an eclectic bunch of Timcats, I'm very proud of that. | ||
| I'm particularly proud of the fact that Ilad and Cassandra are friends, and boy are they on the other sides of the political spectrum. | ||
| Ilad is our resident Bolton bro, neocon, he calls himself this. | ||
| Bolton bro. | ||
| Yeah, but when he interviews the protesters, he's very fair, he just asks them a question, lets them answer, he doesn't insert anything, he does a good job. | ||
| And then Cassandra is as anti-war and as isolationist as you can be, and hates Israel. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| She's hardcore. | ||
| I mean, it's great. | ||
| I think the diversity of thought is really good to have. | ||
| Yeah, this company is not made upon the ideological goals of, like, a military operation or a single news event. | ||
| It is simply... I mean, I gotta be honest. | ||
| What Cassandra and Elad represent is quite literally the ideological goal of one of the | ||
| ideological goals of me and this company is that people are allowed to have different opinions | ||
| and discuss those opinions and be mad at each other, but we all live together and we get along. | ||
| So actually they're exemplifying what I think is important in this country that we | ||
| maintain the ability for dissent. | ||
| It used to be a lot more common. | ||
| I know. So I disagree with Cassandra on a lot of things. | ||
| And, uh, you know, I've talked to her about it, but I'm like, dude, I'm not gonna stop being friends with someone because of our opinions on a foreign war. | ||
| I mean, that's the craziest thing ever. | ||
| It's funny, people were, like, in the tweets of people who'd be like, like, you know, don't go on TimCast anymore because Cassandra's opinions, and I'm like, oh, okay, dude. | ||
| Like... | ||
| People are tagging you in her tweets. | ||
| I know, I know, I love it. | ||
| Bro, I just want to stress, I've known Cassandra for a decade, she's one of my best friends. | ||
| Her opinion on war in a foreign land is not going to affect our friendship, and I'm not going to fire her over that. | ||
| It's like one thing. | ||
| It's a big thing, it's foreign policy. | ||
| And people are allowed to have opinions. | ||
| Same thing with Ilad. | ||
| I yelled at him. | ||
| We got into a yelling match because we were arguing about war and he was for war, saying he wasn't for war. | ||
| He's like, I don't want war, but we must win it. | ||
| And I'm like, we got into it heavy on one of the members only segments. | ||
| And I'm like, I apologize after I'm like, I'm sorry I got so heated, but I'm glad we can have that. | ||
| That's what it's all about. | ||
| All right, let's read some more. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Paul Fongham says, Tim, to have the people better understand China, please have people from the YouTube channel China Uncensored on. | ||
| You see, I was mentioning we get these messages all the time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, absolutely. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| I'll just say, you know, Cassandra, let's let's have China Uncensored on. | ||
| David Zhang, Laowai86, and also SerpentZA. | ||
| Speaking of China, my friend Joseph Solis Mullen, he writes at the Libertarian Institute, he just put out a book about China called The Fake China Threat, kind of trying to go against some of the war propaganda, so go check that out. | ||
| Are you familiar with Thucydides Trap? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So that's the general, I wouldn't call it the layman's understanding because it's a little bit more esoteric, but the simple idea is the minutiae doesn't matter, what matters is we are facing a rising economic threat to the United States, the United States is not going to tolerate that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And, you know, but we do have a choice. | ||
| I mean, I prefer the Trumpian... But another thing about this book, sorry, that Solis Mullen gets into, you know, he's a libertarian, it's from kind of a more right-wing perspective, is about the trouble that China has economically. | ||
| And one of the best arguments in the book is if you look at China's backyard, they have a big border with India, Japan. | ||
| I mean, these are big countries that don't want China to expand in the region. | ||
| Um, so they have a lot to deal with in their own neighborhood, so there's a lot of reasons just not to be so afraid of China, and that's what he lays out in the book pretty well. | ||
| The Lion says, a culture war episode with Laue86 and SerpentZA would be pretty dope. | ||
| Yes! | ||
| Uh, you wanna, you wanna, you wanna message Lisa? | ||
| Uh, yes! | ||
| I got it sorted out. | ||
| That'd be sweet, I'd like to see them as well. | ||
| That'd be really cool. | ||
| I think, I think next week, we might be doing a debate on Israel. | ||
| Yes, Scott. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I'm excited. | ||
| And I believe it's Scott and Will Chamberlain. | ||
| We normally don't announce, but it's like these are friends of the show. | ||
| Scott Horton and Will Chamberlain, they were going at it on Twitter on X. | ||
| But it's funny because like, you know, I talk about how people have Israel derangement syndrome. | ||
| And I don't mean just against, I mean for or against it. | ||
| It's hyper-polarized, it's always one super-extreme or the other. | ||
| And people are like, stop talking about it. | ||
| I'm like, right now, the big news and the threat in the Middle Eastern region is over Israel. | ||
| We're going to talk about it. | ||
| And it's just a conversation you don't rush, which is part of why the last 15 minutes where you guys were talking seemed so frenetic. | ||
| Really, it's a long, observant conversation. | ||
| I would recommend to people, you guys know Daryl Cooper? | ||
| Negative. | ||
| Martyr Maid podcast? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He has like a 26-hour series, it's called Fear and Loathing in New Jerusalem, and it is excellent. | ||
| not East Jerusalem, New Jerusalem and it is excellent. | ||
| You should get him on to talk about Israel. | ||
| I mean, he's really good. | ||
| Very serious. | ||
| When I was in Tel Aviv, whenever I would walk out of my hotel, | ||
| there was a like four foot tall tree stump, like I guess you'd call it a stump, the tree was cut down. | ||
| And there was this cat just sitting on it every time just staring at me as I walked out. | ||
| And I'm like, what is this cat? | ||
| This strange omen. | ||
| When I was in Jordan, I stayed in Amman for a few weeks. | ||
| Cat was cool. | ||
| There was a little red cat that stayed outside my door, and I fed, like, everybody that stayed in the place, like, fed him. | ||
| There's turds everywhere, they love turds. | ||
| During the elections in Turkey, this was back in, I think, like, 2014, I was in Istanbul, We were going around different precincts because there was concern over election fraud and crazy stuff was going on. | ||
| And this street dog decided to become friends with us and come with us everywhere we went. | ||
| I called him Herman because Herman is the name I give to any animal at any point because it's just like a generic name. | ||
| Like, you're Herman now! | ||
| And I got a picture of him. | ||
| I love Turkey, man. | ||
| Istanbul is so fun. | ||
| But like, the dog basically adopted us. | ||
| And we were like, we got a dog now. | ||
| And he just walked with us everywhere we went. | ||
| And we would leave and he would run and walk with us. | ||
| We didn't give him anything. | ||
| He just hung out. | ||
| It was pretty cool. | ||
| All right, here we go. | ||
| J.D. | ||
| says, the horseshoe crab's blood is drawn while alive and on board the vessel that caught it. | ||
| The crab is then released alive back into the ocean. | ||
| The blood is studied by universities and they pay pretty good to utilize U.S. | ||
| commercial lobstermen to get it. | ||
| I just want to stress, imagine you and your buddies are hanging out like outside the bar when a UFO appears over you and beams you up. | ||
| And then you're, like, strapped to the thing going, like, what's happening? | ||
| And they plug a thing and suck your blood out. | ||
| You're like, help me! | ||
| And then they drop you back down and you're like, I swear, I swear. | ||
| And they're like, shut up. | ||
| That didn't happen. | ||
| We're literally abducting crabs and stealing their blood. | ||
| That is exactly what's happening. | ||
| Abducting crabs. | ||
| The crabs, like, a big silver thing above us came and it pulled me in and they're like, get out of here, crab dude. | ||
| You're crazy. | ||
| I wonder what would cause that because I would go down to like this little harbor that was by my house on Long Island and sometimes there would just be like, there's the whole beach covered in dead horseshoe crabs. | ||
| Jeez. | ||
| All right, all right. | ||
| David Molinarolo says, Tim, quote, supporting Ukraine is pro-war. | ||
| Also, Tim, we should invade Canada. | ||
| Brilliant. | ||
| I am joking about the Canada invasion thing. | ||
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I'm not. | |
| It's the cultural invasion, like the British invasion of the Beatles and all that. | ||
| I am serious about invading Alaska because it's ours already. | ||
| And we have a lot of resources there that we could stop worrying about China, rare earths, and these things if we just go to Alaska. | ||
| And they won't do it. | ||
| They won't do it. | ||
| That's the truth. | ||
| And we could, developing Alaska would be fantastic. | ||
| Alaskans, we had a bunch of people, messages saying they'd love it because it would help expand industry and, you know, build things and boost the economy. | ||
| It's good stuff. | ||
| They got good stuff. | ||
| Alaska's very big. | ||
| Is Alaska the biggest state? | ||
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Yes. | |
| Yeah, it is, right? | ||
| It's like half the size of the country or something like that? | ||
| I think it's a third of the mass of the lower 48. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| That's crazy, man. | ||
| Alaska is based AF. | ||
| Deus Flex says, reminded that the Barbary Wars was the only reason Thomas Jefferson purchased a Quran and Ilhan Omar used it to swear herself into office. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Oh, jeez! | ||
| That's what I'm talking about. | ||
| Know thine enemy, man. | ||
| If you're afraid of something, investigate it. | ||
| She used his Quran? | ||
| Is that what it was? | ||
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Wow! | |
| If you're gonna use a Quran, that's a good one to use. | ||
| But, like, the reason it exists is not for the reason it is presumed when she puts her hand on it, you know what I mean? | ||
| Like, it's like, oh wow, he had a Quran, he was studying, like, I will swear it was more so, like, he was studying because they were enemies. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Like, yeah, the guy's like, hey, you're an infidel, my book says I can do this, and he goes, for real? | ||
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Let me see that! | |
| Like, I'm gonna look at this! | ||
| For real, for real, no cap? | ||
| No cap! | ||
| That's exactly what Thomas Jefferson said! | ||
| Okay, let's grab another one. | ||
| Gwadlook says there's a $6,000 Holo Charizard at the card shop near me. | ||
| $6,000? | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yeah, there's a viral video right now of a guy opening a Charizard, and it's $250,000 or something. | ||
| I don't know exactly. | ||
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$250,000? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, a Black Lotus is worth more. | ||
| Some of those new Pokemon cards are going for a lot of money, man. | ||
| New ones? | ||
| Well, not new ones, but... Here's a trick. | ||
| With Magic the Gathering, When a new set comes out, there's usually some cards that are worth 50 bucks right away. | ||
| Instantly. | ||
| Because you'll need them for the top, they're called net decks. | ||
| And so, when you're playing competitively in the standard format, where it's like, I don't know how they're doing it these days, five, the last five sets or something. | ||
| So, a card will come out, it'll be called like Ian the Great. | ||
| And it just came out, They're all over the place, but everybody who wants to | ||
| build the top tier deck for competition needs it, so the demand is ridiculously high right away. | ||
| Usually what ends up happening is, or I should say in certain circumstances, this happened | ||
| at least once to me, you can buy a box of boosters for $150 and you're almost gonna | ||
| get one or two, and so the combined value of all the cards you pull will be greater | ||
| than the cost of the box itself. | ||
| It's because the average person does not want to spend a hundred bucks on a bunch of random cards. | ||
| They want the one single card, so they pay a premium just to get it, and that means you can buy a bunch of boxes, crack them all open, and turn a profit. | ||
| And card shops do that. | ||
| That's what they do. | ||
| They open boxes and put them on display. | ||
| When I was a kid, my friend's parents did that. | ||
| They just bought all the Pokemon cards and would sell the expensive ones and then give us the... Ha! | ||
| The scraps. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Alright, let's grab one last one. | ||
| KCB says, The right wing has become tolerant and weak. | ||
| We are being socially engineered to revert back to being patriotic though, through ever increasing oppression. | ||
| Recruiting is way down and the military needs patriots. | ||
| The interesting thing is when we were talking with Stephen Marsh earlier, he mentioned, you know, in his book, The Last Election, like, that it always comes down to what the military decides to do. | ||
| And I think that's a really interesting point. | ||
| If people are resigning their commissions because of wokeness, and the military is overly woke, I think it's fair to say we know what direction the military would go in the event of civil conflict. | ||
| There's part of me that thinks that the reason the upper echelon, the brass, if you will, in the military are woke is because when you get to the higher ranks, definitely generals, it becomes political. | ||
| So I don't know that I believe that they actually believe in the woke stuff so much as know that You know, know the things that they have to say and the positions that they have to hold if they're going to achieve another, you know, another, if you're going to get another star. | ||
| If you got one star and you want a second one, you want to get another, you know, another, uh, you want to get another commission or get a command or whatever, you have to be able to, you have to say the right things and have the right opinions. | ||
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| Antiwar. | ||
| What's the channel called again? | ||
| It's called Antiwar News with Dave DeCamp, and that's me. | ||
| And I work for Antiwar.com, which has been around since 1995. | ||
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| Unfortunately, Justin passed away in 2019, but he was a genius. | ||
| People should go back and read everything he wrote. | ||
| Not everything, because then you don't really have time for that, but he was great. | ||
| Yeah, and I'm really proud to work for them. | ||
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