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Timcast IRL - Biden Goes To Israel, US SURGES 19k Troops, PROTESTS Erupt At US Embassy w/Riley Moore
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tim pool
The U.S.
is surging thousands of troops into the region.
We're learning that several thousand more are currently on their way, and they are preparing 2,000 more for potential deployment.
Currently, it is being reported by The Washington Post that 19,000 personnel are in the region already, with 2,000 more preparing to go.
We are also learning that the U.S.
Embassy and Israeli Embassy are being... I don't know what the right word is for this.
Besieged?
I don't want to call it a protest.
It's not a protest.
It's something else.
They have tried to storm the Israeli Embassy already in Jordan.
There's reporting that in Beirut, there is some kind of attack on the U.S.
Embassy, but that may be incorrect.
We're getting a lot of conflicting reports right now.
It seems like what we can say more definitively is that there was an attempt to storm the Israeli embassy in Jordan, the meeting between Joe Biden and the Jordanian government has been cancelled, and there is a tremendous fear among many commentators and political personalities that Joe Biden is in serious danger going into the region right now and should not do it.
Because the risk, and I'll say this is my opinion, the risk is not just to him.
It's to the world if something happens to him, but it certainly looks like things are getting very serious.
Report has come out that a hospital in Gaza has been hit by some kind of rocket fire.
The currents, I would say, again, in my opinion, A likely scenario is that Hamas fired a rocket.
It misfired.
It hit the hospital.
But there's conflicting reports.
Men on the left are saying that it was an Israeli strike.
Many on the right are saying Hamas screwed up.
We'll break this all down.
But it certainly looks like we are entering a much larger war in the region, potentially the largest we've seen in our lifetimes.
And with Joe Biden going to the region, things are about to get extremely serious.
We could be looking at a total of 21,000 U.S.
military personnel in the region, with already 19,000 there.
We're gonna talk about this.
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and a whole lot more, we've got Riley Moore.
riley moore
Hi, thanks for having me back on.
tim pool
Welcome back.
Who are you?
What do you do?
riley moore
I am currently the state treasurer of West Virginia, also candidate for Congress in the second congressional district of West Virginia.
tim pool
So we have another story.
Biden's going to request 100 billion dollars for Ukraine and Israel.
And when we pulled the story up, Riley was like, what?
And it's funny because you're a treasurer.
You're like, how is that possible?
riley moore
I was like, did you say million?
You were like, no, billion.
tim pool
And you were like, no, no, no, million?
No, billion.
You're like, how?
riley moore
I guess I'll just keep printing that money.
tim pool
That's right, that's right.
We got Shane Cashman hanging out.
shane cashman
What's up?
Proud to be here with my treasurer, my favorite treasurer.
I'm a writer for 10 Cast News, recently at the GOP debate where I saw Gavin Newsom slip into his skin suit.
And I have a story coming out this week where I was with Carey Lake.
He's actually three demons stacked on top of each other's shoulders.
I saw the suit like that.
And I have a story coming out this week.
It's true.
tim pool
They're going to put out a fact check.
Is Evan Newsom 3 Demons false?
shane cashman
I would love to see that fact check.
tim pool
Crazy conspiracy theorist.
shane cashman
Yeah, and I got another story coming out this week with my time with Carrie Lake when she announced her candidacy for Senate.
tim pool
Awesome.
She's going to be on soon.
We're big fans of Carrie Lake.
She's awesome.
She's been here several times.
We got Libby here.
libby emmons
Hey, glad to be back.
I'm Libby Emmons.
I'm the Editor-in-Chief for The Postmillennial and HumanEvents.com.
serge du preez
Uh, yeah, and I am still here.
Surge.com, ready for the episode.
tim pool
I don't even know which story.
serge du preez
Yeah, it's gonna be tough.
tim pool
Like, they tried to storm the Israeli embassy?
I mean, we're looking at a massive escalation, but at least I suppose we'll start with where the United States is currently at.
This reporting just updated an hour ago from the Washington Post.
Pentagon surging thousands of troops toward Israel amid Gaza war.
The U.S.
is projecting military strength in the Middle East as its diplomats race to prevent the crisis from erupting into a broader conflict.
I'm just going to say it seems like they're not succeeding in that and actually I think the U.S.
presence may actually make it worse.
Here's the reporting.
Deployments disclosed by the Pentagon in recent days will surge thousands of U.S.
troops toward Israel.
I love how they keep saying toward.
Projecting expansive military strength in the region as American diplomats race to prevent the war in Gaza from erupting into a broader conflict.
The moves include the deployment of two U.S.
aircraft carriers and their associated escort ships, hauling some 15,000 personnel combined, the repositioning of an amphibious task force made up of about 4,000 Marines and sailors, And undisclosed increases to fighter squadrons already arrayed throughout the Middle East.
Another 2,000 support troops have been put on alert and told they should be ready to go within days.
The move follows Hamas's stunning cross-border attack on October 7th.
This we all know.
Now, I feel like the reporting we got on this one was put in the cart before the horse, and I think it was intentional.
They're saying it's not an aircraft carrier strike group, it's two.
So an additional deployment.
They keep saying in the media they're being deployed towards Israel.
They're being sent to the Mediterranean just outside of the conflict.
libby emmons
Right.
tim pool
And they're saying the Pentagon is preparing them to actually go on the ground.
I was worried about this last week when they reported U.S.
hostages were taken.
I said, that's usually the United States sending in ground troops, special forces or something, to go in and make that rescue.
Gaza is not Iran, so it's more likely something like this could happen.
But we, the reporting we got the other day was that 2,000 troops were being prepped to be deployed just outside Israeli waters.
Now the Washington Post is telling us actually 19,000 personnel already there.
libby emmons
Right.
tim pool
With 2,000 more being prepped to go and potentially into the country.
Yeah, with the news that they tried storming the Israeli embassy.
This is all happening right now.
There's a bunch of conflicting reports.
Hospital being bombed.
The meeting between Biden and Jordan is being cancelled now.
It seems like war is on.
shane cashman
I think they're afraid to say war.
You know, like everyone.
No one wants to say, I want to de-escalate, I don't want war.
libby emmons
Netanyahu said war.
He said war outright.
He declared war on Saturday.
We also had Hezbollah, which is the Lebanese terrorist group.
They called for an unprecedented day of anger tomorrow, globally, for jihadis everywhere, in response to Biden's visit to Israel.
shane cashman
Yeah, they're saying war.
libby emmons
They're saying war.
Well, Hezbollah is saying war.
And you also have Hezbollah and Hamas are backing each other, even though one is Shia and one is Sunni.
But they hate the Jews in America more than they hate each other.
tim pool
So the big concern is, right now, we have this reporting from ABC News, Biden has departed for Israel and canceled the Jordan summit.
I believe.
I don't know exactly why.
Let's actually just pull this up and see what the latest development is.
They say Israel, at least 1,400 people have died.
3,400 have been injured.
Israeli forces launched airstrikes.
This we know.
Conditions are getting worse.
And I'm wondering if There's the hospital strike.
It doesn't seem... He's departing for Israel, but it's not explaining.
Do we know why the Jordan meeting was cancelled?
My concern is that there's thousands, these videos, thousands of people.
I don't want to call them protesters because it's more serious than that.
They're not quite rioting though, but I wonder if this is the reason why Joe Biden is saying we can't have this meeting, or if it's because the Jordanian government was like, that's it.
The strike on this hospital is too much for us.
We're not having this.
shane cashman
We don't want the liability of the U.S.
riley moore
US president here. I think it's the former and I one of the things that's striking here to me is why would you announce
That you're going to Israel as the president United States.
They're in war right now. Why would you do that?
Where we got to strike carrier groups moving in We have escalation all around the borders of Israel right now with Jordan, Lebanon, and so on and so forth.
And now you're going to announce as the President of the United States that you're going to go to Israel where Hezbollah obviously has the capacity to be able to reach Tel Aviv, Jerusalem, so on and so forth with any type of... Hamas and Hezbollah.
Yeah, Hamas and Hezbollah.
You know, it just seems like a terrible situation.
tim pool
CNBC is saying that Jordan cancelled the summit because of the bombing of a hospital in Gaza.
Now there's a video of this, and I don't want to just rush too far ahead with all of this stuff that's coming out now, but there is video that appears to show it may be a rocket misfire, although many on the left are arguing that it was a failed Israeli interception.
In which case, there's a lot to talk about here, but before we get into all that, let's just say, Joe Biden, we'll keep it to the Joe Biden subject right now.
I'm seeing people tweet the concern that Joe Biden is risking his life for no reason.
These conversations could be had over the phone from secure locations, and going to Tel Aviv right now, going into Israel... It's stupid.
unidentified
Yes.
riley moore
It doesn't make any sense, but it shows... It makes sense if you want to cast his belly to bring the U.S.
tim pool
into a war in the Middle East, but it doesn't make sense for diplomatic reasons.
riley moore
Well, and let's say, you know, God forbid, me among many people would not want something like that to happen, some type of escalatory conflict in the Middle East.
But gosh, wouldn't that look kind of opportune to maybe invade Taiwan if you're China?
libby emmons
Well, that is the next thing.
I mean, the next thing we're waiting for is for China to go, you know, lay siege to Taiwan.
That's really just the final piece.
riley moore
And you just moved two strike carrier groups over there.
So that's basically Fifth Fleet, which is stationed in Bahrain, has now moved over there and repositioned themselves off the border of Israel.
Third Fleet, which is out there in the Pacific on their own, wouldn't have any reinforcement because Fifth Fleet's now tied up.
Right.
What would we do?
libby emmons
Well, we would have what?
Then we would have a war on three fronts.
unidentified
Yes, not to mention a porous southern border.
tim pool
With fears that Iranians have already been captured crossing through as well as people on the terror watch list.
riley moore
And they've reported that, that people on the terror watch list have been captured at the southern border.
libby emmons
Like at least 151.
Those are the people that they know of.
riley moore
It's impossible to know how many.
unidentified
Yes.
shane cashman
Going to the border is like, it's easier than TSA.
They tag your bags, they get your water, and they give you a spot to sleep.
libby emmons
They don't even check to see if you've got guns in your bag?
serge du preez
No.
tim pool
There's so much news happening right now.
It's like we've just told a history lesson in 10 minutes.
It's just crazy.
shane cashman
I know.
And with the Biden thing, I typically agree with you when you say having a normalcy bias or a positivity bias, but I think we're beyond normalcy right now.
libby emmons
Oh, since Trump.
shane cashman
Since Trump, for sure.
And Biden going there, it's like, to me, he's a puppet.
And now I just see the establishment using him as a human shield to start whatever they want to start.
riley moore
So why would he go unannounced to Ukraine?
Do you remember he was unannounced?
libby emmons
And it was a year later, and it was a year after the conflict began.
riley moore
And so he goes unannounced to Ukraine, but he's announcing that he's going to Israel.
Why would you do that?
shane cashman
It's so... You could say maybe it's to make him appear like a strong figure, because he hasn't been at all.
riley moore
But he's not!
unidentified
Everybody knows that!
tim pool
So the argument people have brought up is that a wartime president has never lost.
And I'm like, yeah, that ain't Joe Biden, though.
A wartime president, even George W. Bush.
conveys some kind of strength and people fear a dramatic change.
But if Joe Biden's as frail and pathetic as he is, people are going to beg for change.
They're going to be like, we need a leader now, please.
The joke's over.
We're sorry we were this guy just gets anybody else.
But I mean, look, if we've got 19,000 personnel already in the waters outside of Israel,
if they are reporting, if they're reporting they intend or are preparing to go on the ground,
then they're 10 steps ahead of what we're already hearing about.
libby emmons
I think that's correct.
tim pool
Yeah, when they're telling the troops to get ready for deployment, That's what they're saying, publicly?
Behind the scenes, they've already moved everything logistically, the money's been circulating, the resources, food, supplies, everything's already on the move.
If these troops are going to be ready, they need resources before they arrive, which means, likely, it's prepped and ready to go.
riley moore
Yeah, and I don't know, you know, nobody knows, I guess, right now, except for the people and the policymakers making the decisions, what the thought process is behind this.
Is this to try to secure some type of humanitarian corridors through the southern border there with Egypt?
Is this, you know, because at first they talked about the idea of Steel Team Six and Delta going in to help secure US hostages, which there are Americans held hostage currently is what they seem to think.
And there's already, what is it, over 30 Americans that have died over there in Israel.
I don't know.
I guess it's a projection of strength, and they're doing it in a manner to try to de-escalate the situation, but it could perhaps do the opposite.
tim pool
I think with 19,000 personnel in the area, that's not de-escalation.
You send in a single diplomat when you wanna have a conversation,
you call them on the phone.
You wanna de-escalate and show you're serious, you send in a handful of US diplomatic personnel.
Sending in the war machine is a threat.
I suppose the argument is wag the big stick and maybe they'll back down.
Hamas is not a group of people who think, oh no, they have better weapons than us.
They're staring down the barrel of Israeli airstrikes for a very long time.
They don't care.
They're ideologically driven and willing to die for their cause.
So sending the military there is a provocation.
Let's get a little conspiratorial.
And the fear is, They're prepped for war.
Warships ready to go.
I don't think any of these people want de-escalation.
They're war hawks and warmongers.
They've been advocating for US involvement.
Joe Biden declares beforehand he's going, then everyone in the United States knows where he's going, knows where he is, and he's leaving now and it's announced.
And what happens, as tensions are escalating in the region, rocket fire, today, over and over again, into Israel, reaching Tel Aviv, Hezbollah strikes on civilian region, civilian territory, or whatever you want to call it, on civilians.
If something happens to Joe Biden, and maybe you can think about it in a bunch of different conspiratorial ways, they want him to be in danger, they want risk, they want injury, they want him targeted, they want a cause for war.
shane cashman
It seems like a sacrifice.
riley moore
Well, every conflict that has happened there that the United States has supported Israel, which, just to be clear, I'm a huge supporter of Israel, and we should be helping the Israelis, and we should be helping the Jewish people, but we've never shown up with two strike carrier groups.
To my knowledge, that I remember.
tim pool
I think this puts Israel at risk.
It's one thing when you have the ongoing conflict between Israel, Gaza, Palestine, etc.
We've seen it going on and on.
With the Gaza war in 2014, it was the Israeli Operation Protective Edge.
We had a great concern, I remember being in the newsroom, that this could escalate to the point where Iran declares some kind of involvement or provides supplies, forcing the U.S.
to respond in kind.
But that did not happen.
It was 51 days.
Things chilled out.
For what reason now are they like, let's deploy two aircraft carriers and the president into the region?
riley moore
Yes.
libby emmons
We've seen an awful lot too on the other side.
Like we've seen Putin meeting with Iran.
We've seen that Iran has been meeting with Hamas and Hezbollah.
Like that's all been documented by The Wall Street Journal.
We've seen all of these reports coming out.
So I think it's fair to say that Hamas is ready for something large scale and long term.
They've been planning this attack for a good couple of years at this point.
They've been planning it basically since Biden got into office.
We've seen that the documentation has come out, you know, and there's no doubt that when
Hamas struck Israel last week, there's no doubt that they were not aware of what the
retaliation would be.
They know it would be fierce.
They knew that they were going into war, that they were creating war.
and they knew that Israel would have a disproportionately, you know, violent attack that would be incredibly
horrifying for the civilians of Gaza.
Hamas knew that. Of course they knew that.
So everything that they are doing, either it's part of their intentional plan or they're fine with it and they are
using the tragedy of their civilians to generate sympathy.
riley moore
Exactly.
And I think to your point, what they want to do is draw the Israelis in.
I mean, there's nothing more difficult than urban warfare.
libby emmons
Right.
riley moore
Right.
There's nothing more difficult than that.
And you will lose lives and there will be civilian casualties.
There's good things that are going to happen in urban warfare that Could, theoretically, and we've seen all the fake news that's out there about what's happening in this conflict that's trying to paint the Israelis in a bad light, that could be used to garner more sympathy around the world for the Palestinian cause.
So yeah, I mean, I think you're exactly right.
They're more than willing to use their own population as fodder and human shields and everything else to be able to further their cause.
tim pool
Let's talk about how this is going to affect you here at home before we go back to the war stories from the Wall Street Journal.
Biden planning to ask Congress for $100 billion funding package for Israel and Ukraine.
100 billion dollars.
serge du preez
Get your contracts out.
tim pool
Where is that money coming from?
libby emmons
So we've already spent 113 billion on Ukraine alone since February 2022.
alone since February 2022. We've given Israel, I think, 38 million starting with a deal in 2016
unidentified
that was like 38 million, billion, billion rather, over a decade. We do just over three and a half
riley moore
billion dollars. So we had, there was a new MOU in between the United States government and Israel
for military financing, the FMF MOU that we do with Israel that we've done now for decades. And
And...
That's part of our funding for them to be able to ensure their qualitative military edge.
I'm cool with that money, honestly.
And I totally support that.
I don't know how this money breaks down to $100 billion.
libby emmons
I'm not cool with the $113 billion.
shane cashman
My problem is, we need to fix this country right now.
I'm supportive of Israel striking back.
I pray for the innocent people on both sides, but I've been reporting on this country so much this past year, and we are a mess.
libby emmons
Yeah, you're everywhere.
shane cashman
Everything's collapsed.
I was in East Palestine like a month after the explosion.
They're still in need, right?
Look, Lahaina burned down.
tim pool
What are we doing?
They're shutting down, I mean look, CVS's are shutting down targets.
Walgreens, all shutting down.
riley moore
Rite Aid didn't want to pay.
libby emmons
Yeah, Rite Aid.
tim pool
That was an opioid thing.
It was, yeah.
But yes, that is also very, very bad.
Bank branches are shutting down across the board.
U.S.
infrastructure is collapsing.
There's this viral video right now of this woman talking, she's Canadian by the way, but we're close enough neighbors.
She's talking about how she wanted to get a salad and some ribs and it was $45 and she was shocked.
Now, I think one of the problems here is that she blames the grocery store for the high price.
libby emmons
That's like a Trudeau issue.
tim pool
Now, that's Canada.
I want everyone to understand, there's another viral video that I think I recorded this for Friday, so I don't think it's up on my channel yet, but it's a guy comparing prices from Costco a year on, and it's like the cost of rice has doubled.
The cost of mayonnaise has doubled.
The cost of beans has doubled.
And he's like, yo, they're saying inflation's only a couple percent.
All of the food staples, chicken, the prices are up 7,500%.
You spend another $100 billion.
We don't have that money.
riley moore
Well, and it's not just printing off more money, which we've been consistently doing through the Inflation Reduction Act and all the other trillions of dollars that we've been spending because of Joe Biden and the Democrats and what they've been doing in Congress.
Secondarily to that is you have to remember part of this is what does how does food travel?
How does it get to you?
It gets to you by truck.
It gets to you by what are those powered by?
Fossil fuels, fossil fuels, right?
And what are the Democrats trying to stop the production of?
Things like oil, gas, coal, things of that nature.
So they've created essentially artificial scarcity in the marketplace around things like oil.
Which then creates, look, the demand is there, supply and demand.
The supply is high, or pardon me, the demand is high and the supply is low because of the artificial scarcity and the regulations they put into place around the fossil fuel industry.
So to be able to transport those items, it's a pass-through cost.
It's going to go down to the consumer.
It's going to always hit the consumer.
It's a hidden tax.
You all are paying right now for this war on the fossil fuel industry, literally at the grocery store.
It's all part of the inflation that's happening.
It's not just all the money that they're printing, but it's also what they're doing in the energy industry, which literally transports everything that you buy.
shane cashman
When I was in California, it was $7 for a gallon of unleaded gas.
libby emmons
And it all started when Biden shut down the Keystone Pipeline.
riley moore
Yes!
tim pool
You can actually look at the moment when Biden is inaugurated, not even the election, and you can see like an inversion in wages and inflation.
And people are like, oh, it's not Joe Biden's fault, it's Trump's fault because they're his policies rolling into effect.
It's like, no, no, no, no, you can actually, I think it was like Wall Street Journal showed this graph and it's like, it just flips as soon as he starts signing these executive orders.
And people are asking, how did shutting down Keystone cause gas prices and prices to skyrocket when Keystone wasn't even transporting oil?
These are people, I'm sorry, they're first order thinkers.
And this is what happens when you get a woman who's like, I blame the grocery store for the high prices.
These people don't realize, here's what happens.
Keystone is being built to transport oil from Canada through the U.S.
and then it goes south down to the Gulf or whatever for transport distribution.
This means that when you're looking at the market futures, you're like, okay, do we have enough supply for demand?
Well, Keystone's been shut down, which means we are now going to fall short of supply with demand increasing.
Prices are going to go up.
Then what happens?
People are buying, saying, we better buy now, which causes prices to drive straight up.
riley moore
Yes.
tim pool
Now your gas costs more money because Joe Biden is negatively impacting the entire industry and infrastructure.
riley moore
And then we tapped the strategic petroleum reserve.
tim pool
Drained it.
riley moore
Drained that.
libby emmons
So stupid.
riley moore
Yeah, we drained that one.
libby emmons
It's like, I remember watching that happen and I was just like, stop doing, stop doing that.
tim pool
And I just want to point this all out and loop it all back into a nice little bow.
All of the things Joe Biden did have put us on the path for total annihilation if it comes to international warfare.
riley moore
Yes, we're not ready.
You know, the Strategic Petroleum Reserve spent down, right?
Completely spent down.
libby emmons
And Trump had filled it up.
riley moore
And Trump had filled it up.
And then the policies that you've had these globalists pushing for years as it relates to jobs in the United States and deindustrialization.
Like in the United States right now, we can make just over 16,000 artillery shells a month.
That's what we can do.
The Ukrainians are spending $60,000 a month, so we're transferring literally out of stockpile over to them, which is affecting our readiness down the road.
The Pentagon has a plan to increase this to like 24,000 artillery shells a month in the next three years.
Does that sound like we're ready for anything?
Of course we're not ready.
libby emmons
Not exactly, yeah.
riley moore
We rushed, I mean, just into this service tech economy type thing that we're living in now, offshored all of our manufacturing jobs.
If we had a World War II situation pop up here again, is there any way we'd be ready to industrialize the economy to be able to build the type of machinery, equipment, and military equipment that we would need to defend ourselves?
Of course not!
The only thing we'd have is like Facebook and we could post a comment being like, the Chinese are invading, this sucks.
shane cashman
Just meme about it.
It's terrible.
tim pool
It'll go down in the history of books as we all whinged ourselves to death.
I'm really upset about our new Chinese communist overlords.
They're making me eat, you know, bricks and bugs.
libby emmons
Well, there's definitely the bugs, but it does make me think of like the Qing dynasty, right?
Which was that was not like the isolationist dynasty in China and they were isolationist for a long time and then they emerged at the end of that and they're like, oh now we're ready to rejoin the world and they had gotten there a lot of their thing together in terms of like who they were as a people and Americans.
We don't know who we are as a people.
You know, I was watching this video on Twitter today.
This woman was like, I was overseas and these are all the things I hate about America now.
And I was just like, I hate everything about you.
Like I love everything about America.
riley moore
You know, like, you know, and we were like that.
Look, we were protectionist rolling into World War One.
It's, you know, we built literally the greatest economy the world has ever known.
And then after World War Two, I think we had a pretty clear idea of who we were.
libby emmons
Right.
And what happened?
shane cashman
Marxist took over the university neoliberalism.
riley moore
I mean just destroying the United States rolling through the 60s 70s and so forth and now As we were just talking about this Israeli-Palestinian conflict, it's been very interesting because it's literally like in a conflict, you know, think about World War I where they'd send up a flare and you can see where everybody is.
Right now we're seeing where everybody is, like the universities, the faculty, everybody, and it's worse than I think than most people thought it was.
tim pool
Well, the universities are about to lose a ton of money.
More and more professors are refusing to back down.
And so these big donors are like, we're not giving you money anymore.
shane cashman
Yeah.
tim pool
Good.
Yeah.
shane cashman
It lets me collapse.
I was in those colleges teaching for too long.
I saw Marxist teaching the kids.
I was in those colleges studying for too long.
In New York, right?
As worse as it could possibly be.
But yeah, I really do think the universities are a big problem of where our identity started to erode.
tim pool
I don't think it's universities.
I think it's social media.
shane cashman
I think social media accelerated it.
But I think a lot of really bad people who are actual like Marxists, like people in the weather underground, who are terrorists, domestic terrorists, then got out of jail, pardoned by people like Clinton, you know, went into professors, became professors, and then taught, you know, Marxism.
tim pool
I've had this debate 50 billion times.
And there are a lot of ideologies in universities.
And just because one We know of now doesn't mean that it's the cause of it.
It just means it existed in universities.
Right.
And this is why we thought that as soon as these kids got out of college, they'd have a cold wake-up call.
But here's... So let's put it this way.
Let's say there's the greater world and there's university world.
University world is woke.
These kids graduate from college from woke professors.
They should be thrown into a capitalist world that chews them up and spits them out.
No.
Something else happened.
Those kids commanded power.
libby emmons
Because there were a lot of them.
tim pool
No, because of social media.
Because the kids would go on and send 50 emails.
They would then start spamming and McDonald's would panic and these corporations would panic and be like, what's happening?
Why are we being attacked for this?
If there was no social media apparatus, these kids would never get on TV to complain about anything.
They would never come out and say, we think this company is racist because they did X or Y. The people who run the company would be like, they'd go to the big media corporations and say, don't have those people on your show, and they'd be marginalized.
But social media gave them a free platform and the algorithms incentivized intersectionality and far-left politics because more keywords means more clicks.
They made more money from it.
Now, when you've got big corporations going to these brands, they're going to say, look, we use Google AdSense.
Our principal customers are a whole bunch of small restaurants.
We don't care.
We're going to run the article calling you racist because it's going to make us a million dollars.
shane cashman
And the way I see it is that social media is an extension of the Marxism they learned in schools where they were taught like the cultural revolution was good, you know, at least what I'm hearing.
And then they see social media as a struggle session.
tim pool
So the issue is all the other ideologies that exist did not get that boost and they're in colleges as well.
And it's because social media algorithms They take what is socially acceptable plus whatever generates the most keywords possible, which of course is going to be racism, social justice, etc.
So, if they started making videos that were pro-white nationalism, those would be deemed socially unacceptable by big brands and otherwise, so it doesn't happen.
Facebook doesn't want to be associated with it, so they create algorithms that promote far-left politics, which is why Twitter went from the free speech wing of the Free Speech Party into, you can't misgender people, it's against the rules.
Social media was promoting these things.
Jack Dorsey was a free speech absolutist until he started getting attacked by activists.
But I'll simplify it because I do want to move on to the next story.
None of this would exist or break through into the mainstream were it not for social media platforms allowing or incentivizing companies to do it.
Example, Mike.com started off as pro-Ron Paul and then turned into far-left wokeness.
It's not because the universities made it happen.
It's because the social media algorithms created a monetary course for any new blog and it was plainly obvious that Ron Paul was not making you money.
Wokeness was.
But let's jump to this next story because we got big war news.
Shout out to Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Superchatting this.
This is from DefenseNews.com.
House drafts bill to strike Iran proxies amid Israel-Hamas war.
Ladies and gentlemen, we are on the precipice right now.
House Republicans are writing a military authorization that would allow President Joe Biden to strike Iran-backed proxy forces throughout the Middle East if the Israel-Hamas war escalates into a broader regional conflict.
Ford Affairs Chairman Mike McCaul of Texas told Defense News on Tuesday he's drafting the bill in case Lebanon's Iran-backed militant group Hezbollah steps up its attacks on Israel.
The prospect of escalation comes as Israel continues its week-long aerial bombardment, etc, etc.
I hope you guys are ready, man, because... A grain of sand.
The saying I often use, how many grains of sand make a heap?
Where's the off-ramp?
As to quote Phil Labonte, if we're at the point where troops are being readied for deployment, 19,000 personnel already there, two carriers, Biden is en route, the peace talks, the humanitarian aid summit in Jordan is cancelled, You've got some kind of riot erupting in Jordan, trying to storm the Israeli embassy, and now the House is saying we better draft a military authorization to strike Iran.
riley moore
Yeah, so just kind of for background with me a little bit, I had worked on the Hill on the House Foreign Affairs Committee, and so this is an AUMF, right?
This is Authorization Use of Military Force.
These have generally been completely open-ended.
We literally fought a global war on terror for over two decades with the last AUMF.
So where does this end?
I don't see the legislation in front of me.
I don't know what the language says.
This is a slippery slope.
This can be a very slippery slope.
We fought and died and tried to eradicate, obviously, terrorism all over the globe.
And it was very open-ended.
Obviously, we were attacked.
A very, obviously, emotional response over that.
Rightfully so.
But that AUMF continued on for a very long time.
Very long time.
And if I remember correctly, it's still in the books now.
tim pool
I want to give a shout out to another superchatter, Cold Leftovers, who made a good point.
Joe Biden's heading to Israel right now.
He's flying into Israel.
Rockets are currently flying through the air.
The super chat mentioned, nothing bad needs to happen to Joe Biden.
A rocket just targets or explodes or in some way- Good point.
Causes some kind of interaction with Air Force One, that's it.
Air Force One forced aversion after Hamas rocket nearly strikes U.S.
President Cassius Raleigh.
shane cashman
It's almost like they're provoking that.
Just sending him there.
tim pool
Right.
If a rocket in any way threatens the presidential dispatch or whatever, That's all they'll need to say.
Look, they tried to kill our president.
libby emmons
Yeah, that's a big deal.
And they're drafting... Well, remember, George Bush did that.
He was like, they tried to kill my dad.
Remember that?
shane cashman
Yeah, that's right.
riley moore
Yeah, well, I mean, and... But that wasn't a Cass's belly.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
That was him whinging.
libby emmons
That was whinging, for sure.
But if we can whinge like that, then what does this look like?
riley moore
And kind of the, and we saw this even way back in the day, Mujahideen in Afghanistan, the asymmetric technology that exists for terrorists, which we provided, obviously, to be able to defeat the Soviets in Afghanistan.
Stinger missile, these are heat-seeking missiles, which literally, rocket-fired, it's a man-pad, as they call it.
Anybody, really.
I mean, it's got a seeker.
It's pretty easy to use.
They're all over the place.
The Russians, formerly the Soviets, also manufactured them.
The SA versions.
They're all over the place, right?
Now, look, obviously there's countermeasures in Air Force One and all these other things.
It does make me think, are they moving, like, these strike carrier groups there also because he's going there?
libby emmons
Interesting.
riley moore
Is that part of the reason?
I don't know.
libby emmons
I'm planning to go there, you know, because they moved the aircraft carriers like a good few days ago at this point.
Wasn't it over the weekend, Saturday?
riley moore
And they do have a ballistic missile defense system on these destroyers, right?
So you got the BMD ballistic missile defense destroyers attached to strike carrier groups, which are part of that larger group of ships that go.
Is that, you know, I don't know.
It's just an open question.
Is that part of the reason they're there so Joe Biden can go to Israel?
libby emmons
Yeah, I don't know.
riley moore
I don't know.
shane cashman
It does make sense.
libby emmons
But also there doesn't seem to be any reason, like Tim was saying, there doesn't seem to be any reason that he has to go to Israel.
You have a phone?
There's like just no reason for that.
I mean, how many times could you schedule a meeting with someone to have in person and then you just call them via, you know, pick your video conferencing?
tim pool
Or how about he meets with all of these world leaders in Egypt, in Cairo?
Yeah.
Somewhere more secure.
unidentified
Or literally anywhere.
tim pool
The carrier group is right there, next to Israel, Egypt, etc.
They could easily land in Cairo and have the meeting there.
riley moore
Or Bahrain.
Literally.
That's where 5th Fleet is stationed is in Bahrain.
I have been there.
They're there.
CENTCOM is in the region as well.
Why not meet there?
But this guy, he's got this Napoleon complex as it relates to his power and strength and everything else that I think that's...
Kind of part of it.
And, you know, I think in the back of his head, Donald Trump's always kind of eaten in a little bit because Trump himself projects strength.
He does.
Biden falling down a set of stairs about every two months certainly doesn't.
Right.
And maybe that's part of the thing.
I'm going to roll to strike carrier groups in here.
I'm going to fly in.
Here comes President Biden, you know.
libby emmons
But is he even making the decisions?
riley moore
Yeah, I don't know.
Yeah.
shane cashman
Riley's being very kind by saying Biden has his own thoughts going on.
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Yeah.
shane cashman
But I was also thinking today about when Trump went and met with Kim Jong Un, you know, that was like a great image.
libby emmons
He walked across the DMZ.
shane cashman
Way different situation.
tim pool
I rise in a war.
It is a war, but there's like periodic armistice or whatever you want to call it.
Donald Trump meeting and walking, you know, what did he walk?
Like a hundred feet or something?
Is an effort towards peace at a time when bombs aren't being dropped by multiple countries.
And you know, it was, it was, it's just not the same.
shane cashman
Kind of a smart move.
tim pool
Well, in this it's Donald Trump was meeting specifically with the enemy leader to negotiate peace.
This is Joe Biden meeting with one faction's leader at a time when rockets are being fired back and forth.
riley moore
Right.
And there's tens of thousands of them aimed at Israel to their north with Hezbollah.
And, you know, I mean, for me, it's hard to believe just a few years ago.
I mean, Donald Trump was the peace president.
There was no wars.
We're not dealing with any of this stuff when he was president.
And I mean, that's for a reason.
I mean, people see us right now, I think, around the world and they see an opportunity.
They see an opportunity to do this stuff.
libby emmons
When he was speaking in Iowa, Trump, was it yesterday he was speaking in Iowa?
He said, my personality kept us out of war.
riley moore
That's right!
libby emmons
And he's definitely not wrong about that.
tim pool
I'm curious to see what would happen to these Republicans who vote in favor of another AUMF.
I mean, look, they know they can't beat Trump.
There's a reporting in the Wall Street Journal today, donations to the GOP rivals have stopped.
None of these big donors want to give money to losers anymore.
They're like, these guys can't win.
Trump's lead is growing.
He's improving in the polls.
We're flushing money down the toilet.
People who are voting for Trump do not want foreign intervention.
They do not want more war.
They do not want World War III.
I'm wondering what's going to happen to the GOP members.
Look, they're going to get a decent amount of support.
I'm not saying everyone's absolutely opposed to intervention, but 30%?
I mean, this could cost some of these guys their re-election.
shane cashman
GOP was a joke.
Going to that debate, I mean, no one had a presence at all.
Trump's lack of presence was more of a presence than anyone on that stage.
And then when Newsom showed up, he was the star.
Hannity practically made out with him on stage.
I was like, this is ridiculous.
It was crazy.
And then when I got there, people were telling me there's protesters on the street on the way up to the Reagan library.
I'm thinking Antifa, like thugs.
It was Trump supporters lining the streets of LA.
riley moore
Wow.
shane cashman
Because they're like, we love Trump.
And it was crazy.
You know, the GOP is completely weak.
riley moore
Yeah, that is the weirdest move by DeSantis, by the way, was, you know, to debate.
I mean, it's like he took the bait with Gavin Newsom over there.
And, you know, I think Gavin Newsom's arguably one of the worst governors in the country.
shane cashman
He's destroyed California, but the guy's pretty slick.
riley moore
And that's not a good matchup for DeSantis.
shane cashman
No, DeSantis is horrible on stage.
He was a great governor.
Terrible candidate.
riley moore
Yep.
libby emmons
It makes you worry, too, because it's clear that his campaign staff is not getting the job done.
And you know those are the same people that would end up in the White House.
And you're kind of like, if they can't run this campaign, they definitely can't run this country.
shane cashman
Right.
Talk about Trump surrounding himself with bad people first term.
libby emmons
Right.
shane cashman
These people are terrible.
libby emmons
Right.
And Trump had at least discernment.
shane cashman
For sure.
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This is crazy what's going on, man.
riley moore
Well, and this is all premeditated on DeSantis' part.
Not saying...
Trump wasn't thinking about who he's going to put in the White House in 2016, but it was kind of like, is this going to happen?
I think it is.
I'm praying it is.
And it happened, but then you got the entire establishment basically sending letters like, we refuse to work in the Trump administration, blah, blah, blah.
I mean, so it was few and far in between, right?
Now, I'm hoping people are looking back at this and like, Wow, what a peaceful and prosperous time in this country.
libby emmons
It really was.
riley moore
Despite all the nonsense that was going on, Russia hoax, collusion, blah, blah, blah, all this other stuff.
I mean, it really was a prosperous and peaceful time for this country.
shane cashman
I often think over these last few years of Trump's State of the Union that he gave right before COVID happened.
and it was so happy and joyous, you know, retired or winning type, you know, language.
As someone who taught narrative studies, fiction classes for 10 years, I was like,
oh no, we're too happy, right? Something bad, it always happens in the movie. If they start out
happy or if it gets to a happy part, if it's not the end, which I hope it's not the end,
riley moore
it's going to go bad. And he dealt with threats in the way they should be dealt with.
Now remember, ISIS, Obama says, ISIS is going to be a generational threat for the United States.
shane cashman
JV team.
riley moore
JV team, you know, they had restrained rules of engagement.
Trump snuffed them out in like less than a year, right?
And then what does he do?
He strikes Soleimani over in Iran and is like, don't mess with us.
And He sent a message out there.
You remember when he dropped a massive ordnance penetrator on over there in Afghanistan?
Like the mob?
Yeah, we're not playing around anymore.
tim pool
I want to pull up this story from Times of Israel.
Hezbollah calls for day of rage over Gaza hospital blast.
So the story there with the hospital blast Is, uh, is disputed right now.
All the leftists are basically saying Israel, uh, uh, destroyed with a, with an airstrike, a hospital killing 500 civilians.
However, it is being disputed.
Many on the right or some more pro-Israel are saying, because it's not just the right or the left, but pro-Israel is saying this appears to be a rocket misfire.
From, from Hamas.
And, based on the footage, I can't tell you, I'm not a military ordnance expert or whatever, rocket expert.
It does look like, first, you do see a rocket emerge from Gaza, and then in the middle of the air, it sputters out in a strange way, and then all of a sudden, directly below it, you see an explosion.
It looks like it may have been a misfire.
The rocket then falls from the sky and slams, blowing up on the hospital.
But I don't know.
I don't know for sure.
It's possible that an Iron Dome interception hit it and was deflected and was invisible.
I mean, I'm not being cute.
I'm saying had no trail, no rocket.
So it was at night and for some reason you couldn't see the Iron Dome rocket.
It's possible.
But my understanding is that Iron Dome interception, which are rockets themselves, you can see both.
There's that famous photo of the rockets coming out of Gaza and then the Israeli Iron Dome flying up and intercepting them all.
So when you see this video and a rocket goes up, sputters, and then falls straight down, it looks like a Hamas misfire.
I think we have the video.
riley moore
Yeah, and you're right.
It is a little difficult to discern.
tim pool
So we actually have a video here.
It's super hard to see.
You can't really see much.
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You follow it right here.
tim pool
And then it just bursts in midair, and then directly below it.
I don't know if you can actually see anything.
unidentified
You see the bang directly below it.
tim pool
I'll say this, though.
The two stories.
It was, well, the left is arguing it was an Israeli airstrike.
But that video shows something.
Many people are arguing the timestamp doesn't make sense or whatever.
Okay, fine.
I don't know.
Whatever.
I don't think, I think it would make more sense.
There is a post by someone who's not an official with the Israeli government saying that they hit a hospital, a terror group using a hospital as a base, deleted the tweet.
Israel saying no, this appears to be a Hamas misfire.
I think that's the simple solution here.
I'm not trying to give Israel a free pass.
Hamas is firing a ton of rockets that are makeshift, made out of water pipes.
Like, the misfiring is extremely likely and probable if they're firing thousands of them.
riley moore
Yeah, look, I'm not an ordinance expert, but if that video is correct, you see it in ascendancy, and then you see something burst, and then something come down.
So, airstrike, certainly it was not, right?
tim pool
Well, but assuming that video is of the incident in question, some people are arguing the timestamp is off.
We just don't know.
This is modern fog of war, where we're dealing with propaganda, where you've got the left United States just...
I mean, a really great example of this fracture would be, and I haven't watched it, but Hassan Piker and Ethan Klein have a podcast together, and Ethan is married to a woman from Israel.
I believe she's from Israel, and she was in the IDF, and Hassan is an American leftist.
I'm not sure if he was born in the U.S.
or, you know, he's Cenk Uygur's nephew, and Cenk was born in Turkey, in Istanbul.
But the fracturing there, where Hassan is like, Israel is bad.
You know, and then Ethan is trying to be like, but can we at least acknowledge what Hamas is doing is wrong?
It's like, the left is fractured on this one completely.
In the United States, the divide is so stark that if...
I mean, look, the U.S.
is going to be paralyzed if it tries to fund intervention on behalf of Israel, because you've got a large faction of the Trump-supporting base, which are going to be like, not a chance, and the entirety of the woke left, not a chance.
So you're going to have perhaps a plurality, but maybe even a minority in this country who would agree with some kind of U.S.
involvement in the region, and that's going to lock us out.
They're going to have to just go ahead and do it, but that's risking destabilization in this country.
shane cashman
That's why I urge everyone, when I see these videos, to remain suspicious of anything that confirms any bias you might have for this conflict.
Because people are reporting on this stuff immediately, or tweeting about it immediately, and they're like, they seem like they know exactly what it was.
I'm like, we've been through COVID, you know, we've been through a lot of things, a lot of lies in our generation.
It's like, I can't trust anything.
libby emmons
And do you notice we don't see, we don't see videos coming out of Ukraine like this ever.
tim pool
I just want to say right now, The truth matters to us morally, but in this war, it matters none.
Hezbollah is calling for a day of rage.
They said the hospital strike was a massacre and a brutal crime.
And even though Israel is saying there was a Hamas misfire, all the Arabic nations are saying, nope, you did this.
It doesn't matter what really happened.
riley moore
Yeah, I mean, so the Israelis aren't calling for, like, a day of rage.
No, I know that, but my point is... But after they go into a kibbutz and kill men, women, and children, the Israelis weren't saying, let's have a day of rage all over the world.
tim pool
And the point is, the fact of the matter is, in this hospital strike are immaterial to what comes next.
The left will accuse Israel.
They will rage because of it, whether it was true or not.
libby emmons
Well, what's interesting, too, though, is remember last week we had the thing where whoever it was, the Hamas guy, the former Hamas guy who was in Qatar, he called for the Day of Jihad on Friday.
And you notice how there wasn't a Day of Jihad on Friday?
That's because these things take time to plan.
Like, you have to organize something like this.
They organized this massive attack for years.
They organized, you know, 9-11.
They organize when they commit these mass atrocities.
So, you know, I think one thing to worry about is, like, are there more things that are organized, you know?
Like, we're not going to see a day of rage, necessarily, unless what you're seeing in Jordan and Beirut right now.
Like, what are we talking about?
tim pool
When you get a call for a day of jihad, On the fly, they say, hey, this Friday you get two days to plan and nothing happens, I'm not surprised.
But now that those people have been activated by the news last week are now seeing this, now they're going to be mobilized.
More likely so.
shane cashman
There's embassies burning right now, you know?
Right.
I think something's happening. And people are saying that there were pockets of violence on
Friday, but the media has refused to... Well, there was protests and riots.
But like the guy in California who drove through the crowd that they were saying...
tim pool
Well, there was the guy in Brussels who killed people.
shane cashman
The guy in Brussels. The guy in Brussels.
libby emmons
Paris. And in France, the teachers.
riley moore
Paris. Yeah, Paris.
libby emmons
Hezbollah also, they weren't just saying that it was the hospital that's their reason for the day of rage.
They said that it was an unprecedented day of anger against the enemy and its crimes against Biden's visit to the Zionist entity to cover and protect this criminal entity.
The message should be clear that this is a day without turning back on the path of resistance, victory, and retribution for the oppressed against the oppressor.
So what they're also saying is it doesn't matter what you ever do, we are going to fight until we annihilate you.
riley moore
Yes, and look, this is an adage we've all heard, but it is absolutely true.
If the Arabs decided to disarm tomorrow, you would have peace.
If the Israelis did, you would not have a Jew left in Israel.
libby emmons
Right, and perhaps the world.
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Yes.
riley moore
And the Palestinians have never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity.
libby emmons
Right.
riley moore
Every single time there's tried to negotiate some type of two-state solution, they've missed an opportunity every single time something real has been put on the table, which makes you think they don't want peace.
Right.
And if this was some kind of pan-Arab movement, then why don't the Egyptians and the Jordanians and everybody else open up their borders, support them, try to do something?
They don't want them.
libby emmons
Well, they value their own culture, too.
They don't want that.
tim pool
I want to pull up this tweet.
I just saw Andy Noh retweeted it.
Geoconfirmed appears to be stating that this does seem, based on geolocation data, to have been a Hamas rocket which, for some reason, misfired, fell down onto the hospital.
You can see two explosions.
And they actually go through the geodata.
Look at this.
This is a really amazing investigation.
Pulling up daytime photos and then comparing it with the news footage so you can find the locations.
Multiple videos of the rocket here.
Here's a better video.
And the last one you can see kind of what happens to the rocket going up.
And then for some reason in midair, perhaps a misfire, reasons unknown.
And then, of course, you can see the two detonations on the ground.
So, look, we don't know for sure, but take a look.
This is really amazing.
They've got landmarkers showing what they appear to be the same thing.
They believe the geolocation data, the coordinates, are all there.
The buildings, they've identified.
And they show the map.
And I believe it looks like their conclusion is...
A missile launched by a Palestinian group exploded mid-air for reasons unknown, and one piece fell onto the hospital causing an explosion.
The geolocation and timing of the footage is conclusive.
More information will be added to the thread.
This is from three hours ago, so a really interesting thread.
They're saying it's conclusive.
I'm still saying I'm not entirely sure, but I do think this thread is particularly interesting if you want to check it out.
Geoconfirmed on Twitter.
riley moore
And I would say this, look, and as I said, I'm no expert, but I have looked at a number of these things just through my previous work in the government.
To me that looks like, and you got to remember a lot of these are homemade rockets, right?
So it looks like the thruster probably broke through the actual shell and then that thrust pushed out the side of it.
And a lot of these rockets, because they're homemade, they're kinetic.
That means it has to touch it with force to be able to go off and they're usually in the nose of this thing.
And so the thruster probably burst out the side of the actual rocket and then it fell down, made kinetic contact obviously with the hospital and that's just a guess.
Nobody quote me out there, try to own me on it later, but it's just a guess.
tim pool
Do you confirm mentions?
I mean the simple version is what you see when the rocket ignites in midair is the propulsion system breaking Yeah, and the payload is still active when it slams into the ground.
riley moore
Exactly, because the payload itself is generally, they're kinetic, right?
And so, if the rocket and the booster go out, then it's going to, wherever it falls, it will explode.
tim pool
Look, I mean, this is the scary reality of war.
This is what false flags are for.
A nation, historically, this has happened several times, will attack itself because they can use that attack as justification.
shane cashman
Look up the years of lead in Italy.
It went on for decades.
It was just people attacking themselves.
False flags on each other the whole time.
And a lot of people blame NATO, I think it was, for interfering with that and planting those false flags.
And a little historical tidbit is in the very beginning of the years of lead, and if the rumors of NATO being involved are true, the person in charge of that group was General Lendencer, who was the guy who went to JFK with Operation Northwoods.
riley moore
Well, there's always been a question, too, of, don't forget the war in the Balkans, right?
Where you had the shelling of the market, which they had blamed on the Serbians, and then it was like, well, actually, was that the Kosovars that had actually done that?
You know, there was a question around getting U.S.
involvement going after that shelling.
Who actually had done it?
shane cashman
Not saying I have the answer to that, but that was no matter who did this, though, and if there were 500 people in the hospital, it's a war crime.
Yes.
And yeah, it's disgusting.
riley moore
No, absolutely.
It's disgusting.
But it is, you know, and we talked about this at the outset.
It's very interesting is all militaries have always had psyops, right?
You know, propaganda and things, you know, trying to push them.
Yeah, you're trying to push messages and psyops and trying to Push the population in the manner in which they think about conflict in a certain direction.
But today, it's so much different because it's like, second to second, you know, this, you know, World War Two, right, or Vietnam, or you had psyops, it was over a long trajectory period of time, right, of trying to control the narrative.
Now, it's just, Almost chaotic.
shane cashman
I think we're in a non-reality.
I think we're beyond reality right now.
I keep calling it post-reality and it's like that.
That's like the totality of events occurring, both digital and physical, right?
As the whole world is on fire.
serge du preez
That's a great term for it.
shane cashman
I'm trying to get it started.
libby emmons
It's like the modernism, post-modernism, reality, post-reality.
shane cashman
Because watching people debate decapitated babies on Twitter, Within moments, or Ghost of Kiev.
libby emmons
Well, the crazy thing about those debates is that the idea is that in some way, if you can say that there's this kind of propaganda or that kind of propaganda on one side or another, then that justifies your opinion or perspective on the conflict.
And it doesn't.
Like propaganda warfare is propaganda warfare.
It doesn't really have anything to do with what actually is objectively going on.
tim pool
I'll just point out real quick, one of the Super Chats, Justin SLA says Max Blumenthal has proven it was Israel.
I checked Max Blumenthal's Twitter history and I've not seen any definitive information or anything proving anything.
I have seen some conjecture that the videos that are putting out have an incorrect timestamp, which will have to be verified, and I'm also stating I am skeptical on the geo-confirmed, but I do think a long thread from a geo-tracking with coordinates Non-war, non-journalistic entity is just being like, we tracked the images, we looked at the locations, here's the coordinates.
It's reasonably more likely to be true.
However, I will remain skeptical.
I don't know who did this, but it does seem, in my opinion, based on everything I've read, Hamas likely had a rocket misfire.
I mean, look, these are makeshift, improvised rockets.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Saying that it misfired is not unreasonable.
Saying that Israel, with military precision, blew up a hospital full of children, that's a bold claim that requires some extraordinary person.
unidentified
It's possible.
tim pool
It's entirely possible.
It's entirely possible.
riley moore
Yeah, I mean, this isn't like a Patriot battery firing.
It's like, you know, those things don't miss fire, right?
They go where they're guided to.
I mean, but Hamas, like you're saying, it's a makeshift rocket.
libby emmons
I mean, I think it's Or it's Iranian, right?
riley moore
Yeah, you heard the Iranians did it?
tim pool
Either way, Israel is operating with, I think, what, the fourth strongest military in the world, they say?
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
I mean, this is cutting edge, this is bleeding edge weapons technology.
There can be accidents, there can be mistakes.
It just means the probability of the accident mistake is going to be on Hamas, not on Israel.
That's right.
And, you know, look, there was a statement put out by someone saying that it was, they said, Israel struck a hospital that was operating as a terror base or whatever.
And then the person deleted the tweet.
That didn't mean anything to me.
I don't know.
Right?
We don't know for sure.
shane cashman
That's what's so weird is like any reality you want to be true is will be true for you on the internet.
You just got to find it.
libby emmons
Right?
shane cashman
Everything you want to be true is true.
Which means then nothing is true.
riley moore
Yeah, you can always find it.
libby emmons
It's like the relativist approach to everything where it doesn't matter what the perspective is.
Everything is is equally valid.
unidentified
Right.
libby emmons
Which is essentially not just post reality but post morality.
shane cashman
Oh, for sure.
libby emmons
Which we are definitely a post-moral culture.
shane cashman
Yes, yes.
And even though these things may or may not be true, we are learning how people are reacting to what they think is true, which is also terrifying, you know?
Right, right.
Because some people want these things to be true no matter what side it is.
libby emmons
Well, and the crazy thing, too, is you have like the, you know, so many people who are walking around carrying trans flags being like, I'm pro-Hamas!
And you're like, you know they would kill you.
riley moore
Yeah, right.
libby emmons
They hate you as well as me. They don't hate you less because you say you're pro-Hamas.
shane cashman
It falls in line with my theory that they are certainly a death cult.
libby emmons
Yeah, there's definitely a death cult going on.
tim pool
I think it's like, they're the inversion of logic, right?
And I'm not trying to be funny.
LGBT for Palestine?
Releasing criminals and arresting victims?
In New York, if you defend yourself, you get arrested.
And if you're a criminal, you get released.
It's bizarro world.
It's an inversion of what logic is.
shane cashman
Because there's no more distinction between parody and reality.
libby emmons
And there's no distinction between good or bad, because both are equally valid, depending on how you feel at the time.
shane cashman
Exactly.
So when people first saw Alex Stein doing his routine, I love it.
But people on the right thought he was a real person from the left.
So there's no more distinction, which is funny, but it's insane.
tim pool
I feel bad for the Babylon Bee.
They try.
They're more prophetic.
libby emmons
They can't do much at this point because you'll see one of their headlines and you're like, oh but I just saw that in the Washington Post.
unidentified
It just blends in, it's the same.
tim pool
So they made not the B. Life has become so absurd they have to make it.
It's not satire but it seems like it.
libby emmons
Yeah, and the onion barely exists anymore.
unidentified
I haven't seen the onion in forever.
tim pool
I think we're laughing a bit too much.
Let's get back to the story.
We got a story here from MiddleEastEye.net.
Israel-Palestine war.
Jordanians try to storm Israeli embassy after Gaza hospital attack.
We have this tweet.
LowKeyOnline, I'm not sure who LowKey is, hosts a podcast on Mint Press News, says the Israeli embassy in Jordan is on fire.
And this was posted 3.19pm today, so several hours ago.
But this has been ongoing.
I don't know if we have... Yeah, we have this video here from the post-millennial that I'll play for you guys.
Just a short video showing what appears to be thousands, maybe tens of thousands of people outside the US and Israeli embassies.
And of course, again, the reporting is that they've tried to storm the embassy, so look, man.
I don't see how we get out of this without at least widespread war in the region, whether it involves us or not.
libby emmons
We are not just going to be dragged in, we're going to jump in, which is what we seem to be doing.
tim pool
Joe Biden's jumping in right now.
shane cashman
Will Lindsey Graham be on ground?
libby emmons
Lindsey Graham.
Lindsey Graham won't do anything.
shane cashman
Lindsey Graham.
I've been calling him the Anthony Fauci of war.
He's got his whole deal.
That guy is crazy.
tim pool
I can understand if our interests are attacked and someone says we should defend our interests.
Fine.
I will argue, we should not have interest in certain areas, and so my argument would be thus, we should not be involved for those reasons.
If the president is attacked, it's a tough position.
But for Lindsey Graham to come out and say, with or without evidence, the U.S.
should bomb Iran, is psychotic.
libby emmons
That is psychotic.
Bombing Iran would be a totally wacky thing to do.
shane cashman
That dude is evil.
It's insane.
He wants it.
People will make money off of war, and he's probably one of those people.
tim pool
He's like buying a bunch of stock in Raytheon and Lockheed Martin.
riley moore
I would point out just to be clear is, and some people might not remember or know this, but there are tens of thousands of Palestinians living in Jordan in refugee camps now for the last several decades.
So there is a huge Palestinian presence in Jordan.
libby emmons
And Jordan isn't accepting them into their society at large?
riley moore
Correct.
libby emmons
Why are they not doing that?
riley moore
Well, they don't in Lebanon either.
They're also in refugee camps there.
libby emmons
Why is that?
Why are they keeping these people in refugee camps?
riley moore
It's an interesting thing.
libby emmons
Why are they doing that?
serge du preez
Well, one of the main reasons might be because of the... I don't know if... I think... Is Hamas Sunni?
Are they Sunni?
Is that correct?
tim pool
Or they're Shia?
libby emmons
Yeah, Hamas is Sunni and Hezbollah is Shia.
serge du preez
That's right.
Hezbollah is Shia.
So that's maybe the issue with, well, I was going to say that may have been the issue of them being Shia going to a Sunni country, but if they're both Sunni and they both have the same alignment, I don't know if Jordan is Shia or Sunni.
I know that area is where- Jordan is Sunni.
riley moore
Yeah, Jordan is Sunni and Hezbollah is Shia.
serge du preez
Right, that's correct.
And that's what's interesting about Hezbollah and Hamas being friendly is because they're Sunni and Shia and they disagree with fundamental facts about their religion.
But that's what I was wondering if that was why the people from From Gaza, we're not being accepted, but that is... I don't really know anything else beyond that.
riley moore
You know, but obviously they have a common enemy.
So think about Bashar al-Assad, right?
So he is an Alawite, and Alawites are an offshoot of Shia Islam.
They're not in direct alignment, the Alawites with the Iranians, but the Iranians came in and supported them.
In that war, right?
And so it's obviously relationship and convenience, and I mean, they have a common enemy.
libby emmons
We don't have a lot of Christian sects going around fighting each other ever since the British worked their thing out with the Catholic Irish.
We don't see a lot of inter-war between Christian groups.
riley moore
As an Irish Catholic, I don't know if that's completely worked out yet.
libby emmons
It's working out better than it is.
riley moore
Yes, yes, no, no, no, no, it is working out a lot better.
libby emmons
I have been giving that some thought though, like when you think about it, so here in the U.S.
we have a lot of, we've seen all of these groups start protesting in favor of Hamas, essentially, on college campuses and in Dearborn, Michigan, and a lot of city centers.
We've seen that in Times Square, you know, you see people out with kafiyas and whatever.
And they're all being supported in a lot of cases.
These are people who are being supported by not-for-profits in the U.S.
You know, so you have not-for-profits like CAIR.
What is it?
The C-A-I-R?
riley moore
C-A-I-R.
libby emmons
Yeah, they're supporting this stuff.
They probably have an IRS tax designation making them a charity so that they can be funded.
And all I could think of when I start thinking about this and where's this money coming from in the U.S.
to fuel the protesters in the u s who are backing him off
is the at catholic churches in nineteen eighties and in the u s
they would collect donations to repair the roofs of the churches in ireland
a k a going to iraq for she did so later
tim pool
has tweeted out apparently uh...
that israel did bomb a a baptist hospital killing five hundred
palestinians doctors children patients and then blames the president
Brian Krasinski is criticizing her because it's not confirmed, but this is the point I was making.
I mean, it's already out.
libby emmons
Well, she's a congresswoman, so she must be right.
tim pool
She's a congresswoman.
riley moore
Yeah, yeah.
She has America's best interests at heart, I'm sure.
libby emmons
That's why she's got that Palestinian flag outside her office.
riley moore
Right.
And the LGBT.
libby emmons
She's got that one, too.
tim pool
It's true.
So now what's going to happen is the people who like her are going to say it's true she said so.
That's it.
End of story.
unidentified
Yep.
shane cashman
It doesn't matter what the truth is.
serge du preez
No.
It's relative.
riley moore
Terrifying.
Since you brought it up, the interesting thing though about Northern Ireland, and we're not going to go down a rabbit hole on this, is that they did end up coming to, through the Good Friday Agreements, some type of formal structure.
Look, if the people of Northern Ireland now, through referendum vote, To be to rejoin the Republic of Ireland.
That's what's going to happen in the British government is going to recognize that and they were able to come up with some type of political solution here.
I have no I.
You're not going to get a political solution here.
serge du preez
No.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
It's just not going to happen.
This is scary stuff, man.
I mean, if you're just on Twitter right now, if you're on X, there's a lot of videos flying around that are unconfirmed that are going to lead us into very serious conflict.
There's one post, not confirmed, that a crowd in Turkey is trying to break into a military base, a US military base.
And that the U.S., they're saying the U.S.
must respond and protect U.S.
territory.
I don't know if this is true.
I see Majid Nawaz retweeted it from Jason J. Smart.
No idea where the video came from.
But people are going to start seeing these videos.
And it doesn't matter if they get debunked later on.
You know, people saw it.
That's it.
They're not going to look for the fact check.
riley moore
And the scary thing is, Tim, is that you have like a congresswoman who is feeding this social media frenzy, who could, if she wanted to, go get some classified briefing and actually understand, probably much better than all of us, what's actually happening, but she has no interest in that.
She wants to fuel the propaganda out there.
serge du preez
Blind support is better than support that has any knowledge of anything that's going on, because you can tell them exactly what you want them to know.
You are the person who controls information at that point.
That's, that's terrifying, man.
riley moore
Yeah, I mean, look, I mean, she's got her flags out there in front of her office.
I'm sure Hamas is just waiting for the day to raise the Palestinian and LGBTQ flag.
unidentified
It does seem weird that you have... Thank you.
libby emmons
Yeah.
Yeah.
riley moore
Did you say plus?
libby emmons
There's a plus at the end.
It does seem weird that she is a sitting congresswoman who is going after one of our allies on Twitter.
That seems bizarre.
riley moore
Yeah, well, she's an anti-Semite.
libby emmons
She does hate Jews.
She's like a classic Jew hater, that is true.
riley moore
Yes.
libby emmons
We have a number of them in Congress, it turns out.
tim pool
Look, look, guys, you know, the left would come out and say everyone on the right is fascist, and that is clearly false.
Because you can't call Dave Smith a Trump supporter because he's critical of Trump.
But they tried doing it when he was on Fox Business, I think, with Kennedy, and they were like, you Trump supporters, like, I don't support Trump, what are you talking about?
But when you were looking specifically at Rashida Tlaib with the Palestinian flag, blaming Israel for something that's unconfirmed, and the involvement of the DSA, their support for, like, overt support for Hamas, Yet we're not being cute when she says she's anti-semitic.
That's just like a confirmed statement of fact.
libby emmons
No, that's just a fact.
riley moore
Yes, she is Rashida Tlaib.
libby emmons
So is Ilhan Omar.
tim pool
Now hold on, AOC called for surgical, I'm sorry, precision and intelligence to deal with Hamas.
I was actually kind of impressed.
I was like, I don't know if I agree.
riley moore
Precision and intelligence, not two words I usually associate with her.
tim pool
AOC is getting a lot of flack for this because she's calling for a ceasefire and I don't know why.
It's like the hate against her right now is just pure tribalism.
A ceasefire, she's asked about it on CNN.
She's like, this goes both ways.
Hamas is firing rockets into Israel.
We want it to stop.
She's not saying Israel should just not respond to the attack.
She's saying Hamas needs to stop too.
I can certainly understand Israel saying we're going after the military leaders and then AOC's basic assessment, which again she's getting ragged on for, was collective punishment is not good and may destabilize the region.
Hamas must be dealt with, but we need military intelligence and precision.
And I was like, AOC went on television and said that we should provide intelligence to surgically strike and assassinate or execute Hamas leaders.
And she's getting ragged on by Republicans.
I'm like, what is she supposed to say?
Indiscriminately bomb hospitals?
I don't understand.
She's giving what would probably be a typical Republican answer.
Military surgical strikes on Hamas leadership.
And she's getting ragged.
I'm like, I don't know what to say to that.
shane cashman
Tribalism.
Sometimes she is right.
Just recently I agreed with her on her UFO assessment when she was like, basically, I think, this is her saying it, we give billions of dollars to a lot of corporations with no oversight and they're creating things that we might not know about.
And I'm like, I agree, AOC.
libby emmons
That's actually not too dumb.
shane cashman
I agree.
I tried writing a story about her and then I think they Googled me.
I reached out to her team and they were like, never mind.
tim pool
I was this close.
I'm wondering when the left is going to come after AOC.
for saying Hamas must be dealt with.
shane cashman
She's out of the squad.
tim pool
And she didn't literally say, we need surgical strikes to remove leadership.
She says, Hamas must be dealt with.
And then she's asked how, and she goes, perhaps with military intelligence or precision.
And it's just like, she's basically saying, too many civilians are dying in the Israeli airstrikes.
They need to be more precise in who they're targeting.
And it's like, that's more pro-military than I get coming from AOC.
riley moore
Yeah, I mean, the striking thing, though, you know, through all of this, yes, we need to go after Hamas.
They must be destroyed.
We must go after the leadership.
We can't have these types of attacks on Israel.
Where's the Secretary of State dealing with Egypt to get these civilians out of there?
I mean, has anybody seen the Secretary of State?
I mean, I guess he's supposed to go over there.
libby emmons
Well, it's Blinken, right?
riley moore
Yeah, but I don't ever see him.
libby emmons
He's been over there.
He had a meeting.
He had, like, an eight-hour meeting yesterday talking to people.
If you go to the State Department, he's traveling to Israel, Jordan, Qatar, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, UAE, and Egypt.
He's trying to get all this stuff sorted out.
I don't agree with Blinken on pretty much anything, but that's where he is.
He's over there, and he's the one who announced that Biden was going to be coming by.
riley moore
But you know what I think is that they have dragged their feet on those types of relationships because Trump is the guy that did the Abraham Accords, right?
libby emmons
That was such a great idea, the Abraham Accords.
riley moore
Yeah, and they have, I think, not wanted to solidify and strengthen that agreement that Trump, were he not Donald Trump, would have received the Nobel Peace Prize for doing something like that.
libby emmons
He was not.
There were a couple people nominated him, I recall.
riley moore
Yeah, I mean to be able to get Arab nations like that to be able to recognize and normalize relations with the state of Israel is a huge accomplishment and I think that they've dragged their feet on that accomplishment because they don't want it to be cemented in place and now we're paying the price for that because I would imagine they've not kept up the pressure in terms of normalization of those interactions in between those two countries.
The most notable thing I've seen Blinken do recently is like play guitar at the White House.
I don't know if anybody saw that.
libby emmons
I missed that one entirely.
riley moore
Yeah, he's actually not bad at guitar.
libby emmons
Really?
riley moore
Yeah.
libby emmons
Is he as good at guitar as Lizzo was on James Madison's show?
riley moore
I think he's better.
Really?
Did he twerk?
No, but I think he's playing like jazz or blues.
He's actually pretty good.
unidentified
All right.
libby emmons
Interesting.
unidentified
Yeah.
shane cashman
I think the Abraham Accords were so underreported.
I remember talking to people about them who were like on the left and they're like, we never heard anything about that.
And they were, you know, they're only watching CNN and ABC, but I'm like, they were obviously purposefully underreported.
They couldn't give Trump anything.
riley moore
No, no.
And remember they said, oh, we're going to have war when Trump moves the embassy to Jerusalem, it's going to be, you know, holy war.
libby emmons
It turned out okay.
riley moore
Turned out okay.
Actually worked out.
Aren't we glad we don't have the embassy in Tel Aviv right now?
libby emmons
My goodness.
tim pool
I want to pull up this tweet that I just saw.
This is from Jeremy Frankel.
For anyone in Texas media, he says, Hilton Hotels will be hosting a conference for Hamas supporters in Houston, organizers in the U.S.
campaign for Palestinian rights, notoriously proud Jew haters Rashida Tlaib, Linda Sarsour, Marc Lamont Hill, and several others.
He says, call Hilton Hotels to voice your objection.
Remind them they're breaking their own policy.
They say in compliance with the Patriot Act, as well as international anti-terrorism rules, Hilton does not support organizations that engage in terrorist activities or are involved in any acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of any country where we operate.
I'm just going to outright say, don't call Hilton Hotels and complain about leftists having their conference.
That's not a good idea, and I'll explain exactly why.
I would like to see all the videos of Rashida Tlaib at a pro-Hamas rally explaining why she supports terrorism so that I can show my liberal family members and say, see?
That's the importance of free speech.
So to see conservatives be like, how dare they support this?
We must cite the Patriot Act to get them banned.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I am tired of going to a liberal and being like, did you know that Rashida Tlaib said X?
Prove it.
I'm like, well, I can't find it because they censor it.
No, no, no.
I want, just like when the DSA had that meeting, where they were, like, yelling about pronouns and everyone screaming over clapping, I want those videos to exist.
Please, don't get this event cancelled.
libby emmons
Well, you know what happened?
We had, you know, the World Professional Association for Transgender Health, they had a meeting in Montreal, like, last year or something, and we had a reporter undercover at that meeting, who was, you know, streaming the videos, because they had streaming, but only if you had, like, registered and whatever.
streaming the videos and all that stuff and when we published a bunch of those videos and when we wrote down with no analysis just exactly the things that these people said about how eunuch should be a gender identity for children and how the chapter on how children can identify as eunuchs had a lot of research gathered from a child porn website about eunuchs, right?
Like this is what they were talking about.
The people who we quoted, who gave their talk at WPATH with pride and joy and inclusivity, they came after us with a legal letter saying, like, you can't write down and publish what we said.
And we're like, but you said it, though.
shane cashman
This is why lives of TikTok get in trouble.
libby emmons
You did say it, and we're going to publish it.
shane cashman
You're just showing what they said.
They hate themselves, though, because it's all a projection.
riley moore
Not to make light of any of this, but you mentioning Patriot Act.
Do you think somebody wrote into the Patriot Act, like, why don't we ban terrorism conferences?
But what if the terrorists try to have conferences?
tim pool
The idea that having a conference in support of Palestine, because they're not saying literally Hamas, but we know it kind of is.
But either way, a group of people gathering at a hotel for a conference is a First Amendment protected activity.
libby emmons
That's the right to peaceable assembly.
tim pool
Now, saying that you want people to call the Hilton and get them banned is not government encroachment on speech.
It's still just a bad strategy.
We want all the videos in the world of these people being anti-Semitic so that it will be without a doubt.
Then when it comes to the 2024 elections, you can play these videos on loop.
You know what you do?
You take the videos of them speaking and you run them as ads on Facebook.
Then you're going to have your liberal aunt being like, what's this video of Rashida?
Oh my, what?
She's saying what?
libby emmons
And you'll be like, I didn't know she hated the Jews.
shane cashman
They'll say it was AI.
It wasn't really her.
tim pool
But I mean, then fine.
Make that the battle.
The point is, let them say it.
riley moore
I mean, think about the classic case, right?
Remember there was this Nazi organization, ACLU defended them so they could have their march down the street.
Skokie.
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
Skokie, Illinois.
riley moore
And Skokie, Illinois.
And it was shocking for the American people.
Shocking.
And it's awful.
But people saw that and were like, this is wrong.
It's terrible.
And they had an informed decision about their kind of moral judgment about these issues, which is good.
That's a good thing.
shane cashman
No idea should be suppressed.
I want to hear everything.
libby emmons
Yeah, I agree.
And I think that the American people are smart enough to be discerning and figure things out for themselves.
shane cashman
I hope so.
libby emmons
Especially if maybe we get rid of the DOE.
shane cashman
I'm having a hard time agreeing with you.
That would be nice.
libby emmons
That would help things out maybe a little bit.
Yeah.
I agree, though.
I don't think that we should be suppressing speech.
I think that people should gather.
They have the right to gather and do that.
And the other thing, too, is as soon as you start taking away people's rights, you know, as they're enshrined in the Bill of Rights, then they start coming for yours.
We had a situation recently.
Andy Ngo, who's with Post Millennial, he was giving a speech.
He was giving a talk in Richmond, and a bunch of activists didn't want him to speak because he exposes activists for, you know, being pretty awful.
So, they didn't want him to speak.
They kept calling everywhere that his talk got scheduled to get it cancelled.
And the Marriott Hotel, where it was finally scheduled to speak, cancelled his talk.
And they had to find another location.
So, I don't see any reason to get people's talks cancelled, no matter what they're talking about.
riley moore
Yeah, and it also forces people to meet and discuss these things underground.
Yeah, that's a good point.
Which then generally leads to pretty dangerous activity.
shane cashman
Right.
When I was teaching journalism, fiction, all that stuff, I wanted the students to experience ideas outside of their typical worldview.
Because I would tell them, you need to let the immune system of your ideas build up.
Because if they don't experience these ideas, these horrible ideas, and when they do encounter them in the real world, they'll just collapse.
Their immune system will die.
Right?
You have to know how you feel about these bad ideas.
Tweak your ideas here and there.
But if you keep suppressing stuff, yeah, it'll just fester in the dark and come back.
Yeah.
riley moore
And you see so much of this, right?
Sterilization of history.
So under the Obama administration, they said, we're going to remove the Confederate flags at Gettysburg.
And it's like, people aren't there.
Maybe somebody is, but generally people aren't there to celebrate the Confederate flags.
It's actually something did happen there.
A historical event that literally set the course of this country.
libby emmons
Yeah.
riley moore
It's kind of important for people to understand and know what took place there, right?
And if you're not confronted with that, those ideas and what the Confederacy stood for and what it was doing and why this war happened and what it looked like, young people get confronted with this later in life and it's, as you're saying, it just it falls away, that immunization that you said that they need to have.
shane cashman
Yep.
libby emmons
Well, because you need to know how to defend your ideas.
You need to know how to argue the best points of your opposition just in order to, you know, secure your own ideas and make your own arguments as cohesive as possible.
riley moore
Yes.
Yeah.
libby emmons
You don't know what you think until you start arguing with someone who disagrees with you or reading text that counters your view.
You just don't know.
shane cashman
Exactly.
riley moore
And look, if there's...
For some people, the imagery of the confederate flag, I'm sure, is highly offensive.
Maybe it, you know, makes them feel terrible when they see it.
It's not supposed to make you feel good, right?
You're supposed to be confronted with these things so you know how to respond to it and form opinions about it and things like that.
I mean, this is if you go down the rabbit hole of everything that offends me, then we have to take off the table and everyone gets a vote on that.
Then what are you left with?
libby emmons
Right.
Not very much.
unidentified
No.
No.
shane cashman
History has been flattened.
You know, I grew up outside of West Point, the military academy.
riley moore
Yeah.
shane cashman
And we have the shell of the atom bomb in the museum.
And every summer we have like thousands of Japanese coming to visit the bomb and they take pictures with it.
And it's like they're going to witness something truly horrific.
Right?
unidentified
Right.
shane cashman
And if you keep getting rid of these things, you won't feel it like the way you're talking about.
You know, when I walk battlefields and you Like Antietam.
And you're like, 20,000 guys died there.
You feel like this crazy history of violence that happened there.
And that's pretty much everywhere in this country.
riley moore
Well, it'd be like if you went to Normandy, obviously Germans died there.
There is a section for them.
My grandfather fought in World War II.
He got shot in the face in Germany.
And I'm sure there are, and I know there are, there are gravestones that have swastikas on them.
Right.
I think we need to see that.
Yeah, we need to know that that happens, right?
It's not that I obviously don't support the swastika.
shane cashman
Right.
riley moore
But this is a horrific thing that happened in human history for us to be able to confront it and learn from it.
serge du preez
Yeah, that's the thing that I think is like loss upon the younger generation is that like you and even my generation, the millennials is kind of where it started.
But you have to understand history to to understand history. You have to know where you came from.
Others are gonna make the same mistakes like that common adage goes.
If you don't remember history, you don't know history, you're doomed to make their mistakes.
Or like, if you- yeah, it's just- it's just a thing that everyone, I think, should know,
but I'm shocked at how people actually know that.
You go and see these things, it's not comfortable.
Sure.
All these things in history are not comfortable.
And if you want to talk about them, then you have to be willing to face it.
You know what I mean?
You can't just run away from everything and hide it and say, Oh, this doesn't make me feel good.
Too bad.
Not everything makes you feel good.
shane cashman
A lot of people have like a very black and white view of history too.
You know, like you look at the civil war, like, you know, you may understand Sherman as the hero for the total war, but if you really look at what Sherman did, there's a lot of crazy things.
riley moore
Pretty bad stuff.
shane cashman
I consider him our first atom bomb.
You know, the way he went down and like destroyed everything.
And, uh, you know, there were people working, there were soldiers under him who massacred freed slaves because they were upset.
They were following them while they were doing the trail, uh, you know, the march of the sea.
unidentified
Right.
Yeah.
shane cashman
So it's nothing's easy, but you got to understand that nothing's easy.
You know, it can't just be flattened and condensed into this very simple history.
riley moore
And that's a great point is that it's it's not black and white.
It's complex.
Right.
And human interaction is particularly where it is complex.
And there's lots of different interest motivations and all these other things that happen.
Terrible things on both sides.
Right.
I mean, and I'm quoting the guy McNamara, who happened to be involved with the firebombing with LeMay in Japan.
He said, had we lost, we would have been deemed, and we were acting as war criminals.
serge du preez
Yeah, true.
riley moore
And that's McNamara saying that, right?
But it was a total war, right?
They were trying to inflict total war on us, and we inflicted total war on them.
shane cashman
And then same for Sherman.
You know, he said war is hell.
The idea of hell has been watered down, but legit hell.
tim pool
I saw a good quote, it said, war is not hell.
War is war, and hell is hell.
Because in hell, everyone who's there is guilty.
serge du preez
Everyone there deserves it.
tim pool
And in war, everyone there is innocent.
shane cashman
Fair.
That is fair.
serge du preez
So war is worse than hell in a lot of ways.
shane cashman
Let's tell Sherman that.
Let's dig up William Tecumseh.
tim pool
Sherman was kind of a bad guy.
shane cashman
Oh, he was a miserable man.
He didn't like black people.
He wanted to destroy the South.
He fetishized violence.
tim pool
Mercilessly.
shane cashman
That was brutal.
tim pool
So I just looked it up.
I think even the Postmonial has it.
Yeah, they set fire to the U.S.
Embassy in Beirut.
The U.S.
Embassy.
Yeah, numerous tweets saying the U.S.
Embassy's been on fire in Iraq.
They're outside the U.S.
Embassy chanting, America is the greatest evil.
Post-millennial tweeting, Hezbollah supporters set fire outside U.S.
Embassy in Beirut.
I've seen some tweets that they've pulled the U.S.
flag down in place with the Palestinian flag.
A lot of this is hard to confirm.
I'm just seeing a lot of it.
I mean, there's a video.
serge du preez
It's all breaking right now.
tim pool
Yeah, this is all breaking right now.
riley moore
Yeah, it's all breaking right now.
shane cashman
Oh my God.
libby emmons
Yeah, I'm getting like phone calls from one of my writers.
He's like, what's up?
I'm like, I could talk to you soon.
riley moore
God, I hope they get our people out of there.
shane cashman
Oh, for sure.
riley moore
I'm praying they get our folks out of there.
libby emmons
Out of the embassy.
riley moore
Out of the embassy.
libby emmons
Why do you think they haven't evacuated them so far?
Is there an issue where there's like, is there like an intelligence failure here where we just had no idea that this was going to happen?
How did we not know that this was going to happen?
We saw that was being talked about in Israel and people were criticizing Netanyahu for, you know, having this had happened.
You had, what is it, Shin Bet, I think?
Shin Bet had taken responsibility for the failure of, you know, just not knowing that this was going to happen.
There was some talk that they knew within a few hours that maybe something was happening and they didn't follow it up.
shane cashman
Didn't you say there was a report that was pulled like a week ago about getting out of the embassy?
libby emmons
Yeah, so it must have been last week.
Time has no meaning.
But it must have been last week, and I was looking at reporting, and you saw on Twitter there were maps of Hezbollah shooting lots of rockets into northern Israel.
A lot of people were posting this map.
A lot of people who's reporting, I usually am like, oh, well, if they have it, I'm going
to start there and then dig from there.
And it turned out to be fake.
I went to the AP and I was like, OK, the AP has it.
Maybe we can maybe we can run a story about how this is happening.
As soon as I finished writing the story and we were about to publish it, it was like ready
to go.
I checked back at the AP and their reporting on it was gone and the maps turned out to
be fake and it wasn't real.
And they were saying that the US Embassy in Beirut had been evacuated and it wasn't.
tim pool
I want to pull up the story.
We have this from the Daily Mail.
libby emmons
They're so fast.
tim pool
This is the headline they're running.
unidentified
U.S.
tim pool
Embassy in Lebanon is set on fire as thousands of pro-Palestinian rioters waving Hezbollah banners encircle the compound before security douses them in tear gas.
Rioter plants flag in fence as day of unprecedented anger gets underway.
So this is the official reporting.
U.S.
Embassy under attack.
I certainly hope that they get our people out of here.
I mean, I don't know what Biden thinks he's going to accomplish going into the region right now at this degree of escalation, but I certainly hope that our presence there gets our people out of these embassies, and maybe it's time we just say, see you later.
riley moore
Well, and to Libby's point, though, in terms of the intelligence, I mean, Look at the open source intelligence here.
We have a potentially escalating conflict.
The United States president is coming to visit and we just moved two strike carrier groups into the region.
Perhaps we should have thought maybe there could be an issue with our embassy in Lebanon, which is essentially controlled by Hezbollah.
libby emmons
Right.
shane cashman
It seems like there's been just a ton of intelligent failures for the past few weeks.
tim pool
Yeah, or maybe they're not failures.
I mean, I agree with Max Blumenthal.
He said this was an intelligence failure on the part of Israel.
Max is very pro-Palestine and his view is that Israel would never be humiliated in this way.
They wouldn't allow it.
They wouldn't allow one of their soldiers to be taken because it puts them in such a weak position.
So I see these arguments.
I saw a clip from Charlie Kirk that there's an argument that it benefits Israel to a great degree to have allowed this to happen.
But I think the detriment to Israel for this happening, the obvious detriment for the civilians dying, but even politically, it doesn't make sense that they would... Yeah, I don't agree with that.
riley moore
I think part of the things, and we've talked about this before, is...
How cheap and sophisticated technology is now?
So Hezbollah and Hamas in particular, they have drones.
They have the ability to see where people are moving.
You can buy infrared cameras.
You can, I mean, so they've been tracking and there was an article out there about they knew exactly where one of these Israeli intelligence centers was just right over the border that was supposed to be monitoring this kind of activity and took them out immediately.
And they knew When those guys were coming when they were going because they've been using drones and things of that nature to be able to to track that type of thing and that's where you know you you're always talking about this qualitative military edge qualitative qualitative at some point quantitative
Does become qualitative and where you're able to have a lot of assets and this is where the Iranians swarm technology or swarm tactics rather around US naval vessels and things like that are so dangerous.
Sure.
Yeah.
Look, we got an aircraft carry.
What are you going to do if you got 20,000 boats coming at it?
Are you going to shoot them all?
libby emmons
It's like piranhas.
They're little and yappy.
They'll kill you.
You start to think, too, about how the Americans won in the Revolution.
I know we had, like, French support and all of that stuff, but we also kind of invented guerrilla warfare a little bit, you know?
riley moore
Yes, yes.
libby emmons
That's a big deal.
Yes.
And the difference, too, is that American soldiers are not ideologically driven here, but we're fighting an ideological enemy that believes fully that the best thing that they can do is die as martyrs to their cause.
riley moore
Right.
libby emmons
They teach their children that.
I mean, there were TV shows like – I forget what it was called.
I know I have it on here somewhere in one of these 5,000 tabs I have open.
But there were TV shows that were running in like 2007 to 2014 in Gaza and the West Bank that were produced in the West Bank at TV studios, and it was like a sort of Mickey Mouse type of character.
unidentified
I've seen this.
libby emmons
Yeah, and it was teaching them that being jihadis was Their best option for life it you know the the extremism of this Islamist ideology and the way that it really Changed I think when the terrorists started pushing it fully It's really yeah, I mean really destructive obviously it's really destructive, but How do you fight someone that wants to die exactly right well?
riley moore
And you know did that ideology you mentioned to bring that full circle back to what we're talking about just a moment ago There's people on college campuses chanting, from the river to the sea.
libby emmons
That's so terrifying.
riley moore
From the river to the sea.
What does that mean?
That means the annihilation of the Jewish state of Israel.
That means the annihilation of the Jews in that land.
That's what that means, from the river to the sea.
libby emmons
Yes, it does.
tim pool
And so that's why you ask any leftist, they're not going to give you a straight answer.
What would happen if the security fencing around Gaza was removed?
And Israel said, everyone here, you can just go do whatever you want.
The left knows.
The right will say it explicitly.
Oh yeah, they'll go and start killing citizens and civilians.
They'll call them settlers.
The left will just hem and haw and deflect because they know what the answer is.
You know, and I think the reason why you get this answer from leftists, which is they'll try and dodge it.
They can't publicly say, oh, we know what will happen and then gloat in their calling for what would eventually be civilian deaths.
They also know that they publicly state that Hamas should not do it.
The leftists are going to attack them saying, you think they should bow down to settlers, blah, blah, blah.
The left really has, they know most people oppose what they're proposing and they know the left would take issue if they reject what the left is proposing.
riley moore
Right.
tim pool
So they can't answer the question honestly.
shane cashman
Yeah.
It's terrifying.
Just thinking about the guerrilla warfare stuff, too, is like, it made me think of Vietnam.
libby emmons
Sure.
shane cashman
And it was so bad, the guerrilla warfare over there, that we had to seed the clouds to try to start water.
You know, like rain to fall to destroy their pathways.
serge du preez
Right.
shane cashman
To fight them.
You know, fighting that kind of stuff is impossible.
tim pool
The craziest thing that I, the PSYOPs of Vietnam, one of my favorite military concepts, When they would play, they would put speakers in the jungle, playing the sound of a wailing Vietnamese soldier saying, why did I fight?
Why didn't I go home to be with my family?
I'm trapped forever.
Flee while you can.
Don't be trapped like me.
Because the superstition among the Vietnamese was that if you weren't given a proper burial, you were doomed to wander the earth.
So they would play these spooky ghost sounds that were so effective, the South Vietnamese would flee as well.
So they had to stop doing it.
In that regard, that's old school.
That's, you know, 50 some odd years ago.
The psychological operations we're going to see now are going to be all social media based.
And they've been happening for some time.
So, I mean, look, these videos we're watching, we are at the point, it could be now, that these videos are AI generated.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
And we were like, wow, look at this atrocity in the photos and everything.
We had the argument over whether the photo was AI generated already.
This is a horror show.
I mean, the United States can put out videos of anything they want using AI.
And what are you going to do?
Every journalist just agrees with it and then there's no journalism anymore.
unidentified
Yeah, how are you?
libby emmons
Well, we're in that, you know, that is a, that is a tough spot.
It's like that evil and wa novel scoop where journalists just show up to the war zone and the one guy shows up to the war zone and he's like, where's the war?
And everyone's like, shh, there isn't really one.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Well, I remember this was a big, uh, there was a big social media troll campaign several years ago where people were taking old photos of, like, military convoys and then tweeting that, I can't believe this is happening.
And they were saying something in, like, Ohio.
I can't remember which state it was.
And then I'm on Twitter and I'm seeing all these posts where they're like, dude, it's happening now.
Everyone was in on it.
It was a game.
But a lot of people didn't understand and thought it was real.
You see a video of a tank driving down the street, then you see police pushing people back, and everyone was claiming that all of these things were one incident that happened when it was just random videos.
shane cashman
It's maximum absurdity with unbridled horror on the internet, and that is what is driving me insane, being on Twitter every time I open it up, because I see something has been confirmed, and immediately that thing has been cancelled out.
Yeah, it's crazy and I still don't want to suppress that bad information.
I think it just needs to be out there so we can can fight it because I see other people calling for it to be somehow suppressed or have Twitter step in which I also think is ridiculous.
serge du preez
Well, dude, I guarantee, like, the operation Tim was talking about is called Operation Wandering Soul, and I guarantee, if anyone's looking into it, I don't know if the chat is interested, but if you don't think that there's something like that going on, or at least numerous operations that are going on right now to both combat this new AI, I guess we'll call it misinformation, and to create new misinformation as well, because, you know, the best defense is a good offense, then you're kidding yourself.
There are definitely things going on right now that you don't know about, and none of us know about, and we can't speak anything about it.
Neither could you, I'm sure, as well.
We don't know.
shane cashman
And just the knowledge of the AI stuff happening makes it so there's widespread skepticism already built in.
serge du preez
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
It's already part of the operation just to know that this is going on.
It's already one of the things that they're aware of.
And one of these operations is going on.
libby emmons
It's so deepening, so much of a deepening.
Well, that's why so many of the videos are so incredibly emotional.
Yeah, yeah, definitely.
Because if you are first struck with an emotion, then you're going to react in a way
that corresponds to that.
And you're not going to question it first.
When they get you with your feelings first, that's when you really have to watch out and be careful.
That's something we talk about at Postmillennial all the time with the social media team.
And we're all like, okay, You just gotta chill, you gotta stay frosty,
you gotta like keep your wits about you.
Yeah, that's something actually Jack Posobiec said a while ago.
He was like, stay frosty.
And we're like, that is the motto.
serge du preez
Nice, Jack.
That's a good one.
I know where you're getting that, my friend.
tim pool
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Clint Torres with the number one super chat saying, howdy people!
riley moore
Howdy.
Howdy.
tim pool
All right, Kalashnikov says, and what happens when China moves into Taiwan?
We will be spread thin across three fronts, not to mention our collapsing border at the fourth front.
libby emmons
Well, and all three of those are the ones that have been volatile in the past hundred years.
So Eastern Europe, the Middle East, and the Pacific theater, if you will.
We're going to be in deep trouble if that's what's going on, especially if we don't even have any control over our own nation and our own people don't have any sense of being American or patriotism and nationalism has been vilified.
We have a real problem.
riley moore
That's a hundred percent correct and couldn't agree with you more.
One kind of food for thought for the viewers and listeners is just remember the United States has never gone to war with a country equal or larger in economy and population.
libby emmons
Oh that's interesting.
riley moore
We have never beat and defeated a country that is by population and economy either equal or larger than us.
So you're saying that the United States has picked fights with a bunch of little guys and then... No, I mean we were just generally one of the bigger developed guys and now China's on the rise.
shane cashman
Yeah, when we are on the decline.
tim pool
Ian says, anyone else not getting any livestream notifications for the last couple of weeks?
You're not the only one.
serge du preez
Yeah, you're not.
I also have it on my phone and it got no notification today.
So, I hear you.
tim pool
It's funny when my family members are like, why didn't I get the notification?
I click it every day.
serge du preez
Yeah.
tim pool
Like for people who watch every day.
Well, look, the only reason this show works, two reasons.
One, people choose to come and watch it.
YouTube suppresses us.
There's no question about it.
I mean, people will be like, the stream doesn't even appear on the YouTube channel itself.
And they'll only find it through like someone else sharing it or someone posting the link.
So I think the main reason this show exists is because y'all have decided it should and have shared it or become members at TimCast.com.
But I think if we were so a few years ago, I was just strictly on YouTube making videos and then being like, well, I hope, you know, YouTube puts my video out or whatever.
And then after a while I realized, like, certain videos were no question suppressed.
It was crazy.
You know, if I got, like, 200k views on, like, one of my main videos at 4pm, one day I'd talk about war or whatever and it would get 30,000 and I'd be like, okay, that is clearly not right.
And because I'd get messages from people being like, I can't find it, I can't find it, because people were looking for it.
That's how, you know, so... I think we're fortunate enough that we have word of mouth and people share the show.
serge du preez
Yeah, likewise.
tim pool
What do we got?
Scrotty Johnson says, what if the deep state is sending Joe over knowing something bad will happen in order to escalate the conflict?
That's the conspiratorial fear.
But either way, you don't need a conspiracy for it.
The issue is, there is a great risk to Joe Biden.
If something happens, it will escalate the conflict.
So it doesn't matter if anyone's wanting to do it.
It's happening.
The motives behind it are irrelevant.
Biden is going there.
He could get hurt.
We could get drawn into World War III.
Please, just know.
4Brit says I heard Disney is trying to meet with Paramount to try and stop the South Park episode coming out because it is a threat to their business model.
Can't wait to watch it.
I don't know.
I don't know.
That sounds kind of weird.
I can say that I checked out the season premiere of Rick and Morty without Justin Roiland.
Okay, so for those that don't understand, Rick and Morty, I think it debuted as like a top IMDB 100 show, meaning like it was shockingly popular among a lot of people.
Justin Roiland does the voice of Rick and Morty as well as many others like Mr. Poopybutthole.
They fired him after he was falsely- It's all just potty humor, but he was falsely accused.
He was, I believe it's fair to say, exonerated.
Yeah.
And finally, but he was fired from all of his voice acting roles.
I don't know about all of them, but many of them, these big network roles, they launched the new season without him.
And it was the cringe, cringiest thing ever.
I just, there's like in the opening scene, Morty says one thing and then just gets up and leaves the room.
Like, dude, he's a titular character!
He's in the intro, and then the mom, voiced by someone else, is like, Morty, can you go do the dishes, or something like that, and he's like, he just gets up and walks out without saying anything, and I'm like, get outta here.
And then, it's just like, the person voicing Rick does not do a good job.
I'm sorry, like, you can't, you can't, it's obvious.
And so the whole episode is like other characters, and Rick barely talks, and I'm like, dude, cancel the show!
You fired the magic behind it, you're done.
serge du preez
Dude, it's like Seth MacFarlane not doing the voices for any of his shows anymore.
You lose a large portion of the people on the show that he voices as well, and you wonder why it doesn't feel the same.
That's why.
tim pool
Imagine if you're trying to watch Family Guy and it was Seamus Coghlan voicing Peter.
Everyone instantly understands how awful that would be.
Could you imagine?
Somewhere Seamus is, like, squeezing his fists and, like, punching a pillow.
shane cashman
Looking at all his spoons.
tim pool
Seamus, come back!
Well, Seamus will be back soon.
He just abandoned us, so we make fun of him for it.
unidentified
Alright.
serge du preez
He deserves it.
tim pool
But yeah, anyway, that was my opportunity to rag on how awful Rick and Morty was.
unidentified
Aw, man.
serge du preez
Aw, man.
I watched a little bit of it.
I don't know if I'll watch the rest of it because it's just now, it's not just Rowan, it's what's-his-name, the guy who writes the show, I can't remember his name.
Who?
The other guy that writes the show, I can't remember the name.
tim pool
Dan Harmon?
serge du preez
Dan Harmon, yeah.
It's basically like his show now and it's his narrative completely.
It was just that.
Yeah, exactly.
unidentified
It was, I don't even- Roiland made the show.
tim pool
It was just hilarious that Morty, the show's called Rick and Morty, and Morty just like in the first, in the opening has like a half a sentence and then gets up and leaves.
serge du preez
Yeah, right.
tim pool
I'm like, okay, we understand what's happening.
libby emmons
That happens a lot when they pull like somebody good from a show, like they pulled TJ Miller off Silicon Valley and it became unwatchable.
tim pool
Oh, that's right, right.
He got accused too.
libby emmons
Yeah, he got accused of something stupid and it's like- So dumb.
He was the funniest character on the show.
The way that everyone interacted with him was what made that show really funny.
tim pool
I wonder if we can make a show called, like, Nick and... Shorty?
Bordy.
unidentified
Shorty!
tim pool
Yeah, Nick and Shorty.
And I'll see if Justin Roiland will... That would be incredible.
libby emmons
And get T.J.
Miller on there.
tim pool
And T.J.
Miller.
serge du preez
That'd be really fun.
tim pool
And Adrian Curry says Roseanne.
libby emmons
Oh, and get Adrian Curry on it, too.
Get Roseanne and Adrian Curry and TJ Miller.
tim pool
That would be awesome.
unidentified
That would be amazing!
libby emmons
I would watch the hell out of that show.
I don't even know what it's about.
I don't even care.
I would watch it.
tim pool
We would just literally, it would be like Silicon Valley, Roseanne and Rick and Morty all combined into one show as a joke to make fun of the fact that they got fired.
libby emmons
And it would be like a great show.
Like that would be, because all those people are so funny.
tim pool
I mean, yeah, those are Genuinely hilarious people.
libby emmons
That would really be killer.
serge du preez
It's sad to see Rick and Morty go that way, because I'm not even a big fan of the show, but to see it go this way just sucks.
tim pool
They should have just cancelled it.
serge du preez
Yeah, they should have.
tim pool
I mean, look, it's on season seven.
They're getting on in years.
I mean, Simpsons had nine good seasons before.
serge du preez
It's like ten years old now.
Basically ten years old.
Yeah.
tim pool
That's crazy.
I remember when I worked for Vice, they had a painting on the wall in Williamsburg for Rick and Morty, and I was like, that looks stupid.
What is that?
Like, what's going on?
And then it debuted, and it was a huge show.
People loved it.
That's just the stupidest thing ever.
They thought they could replace the guy who made the show.
Just, you can't do it.
Sorry, man.
serge du preez
Yeah, pointless.
tim pool
Alright!
Bullseye Ben says, Hello, Timcast crew.
One of our members recently lost her brother randomly.
If anyone here can assist with funeral costs, please search for Noah Sundy.
It's not letting me link the post to GoFundMe because you should use GiveSendGo and not GoFundMe.
Yeah, GoFundMe is not good.
They cancel people, so, you know.
serge du preez
Is there an online list of, like, these corporations that we shouldn't be using?
tim pool
I mean, I assumed everybody knew not to use GoFundMe and to use GivesandGo instead.
Eden Daniels says, I can't download any of your content on Apple or Spotify for a week.
Does anyone have this problem?
unidentified
What?
serge du preez
I haven't heard anything about it.
I have not heard anything about that.
tim pool
Yeah, it's like, we upload and everything looks normal to us.
unidentified
Yeah, it seems normal to us, so... I mean, I'll look, but... And we haven't done anything like supporting Hamas, so I don't see why the machine would try and take us down.
tim pool
Maybe we're not pro-intervention enough.
They don't want those anti-interventions.
riley moore
Maybe you're not, like, pro-Hamas enough.
Then you'll be able to get your message out.
tim pool
No, no, I actually think that if you made a pro-Israel, pro-intervention podcast, you'd be number one across the board because every big tech platform would promote you.
The far-left are getting gutted by supporting Hamas.
Yeah, the war machine is pretty happy with the fact that there's people rallying for war.
shane cashman
That's why AOC is changing her tune.
tim pool
To be fair, though... Oh, right, no, yeah, absolutely.
AOC is going full Pelosi.
unidentified
Right?
tim pool
She's next Pelosi.
shane cashman
Full Pelosi.
That's the name of her show.
Full Pelosi.
unidentified
Wow.
libby emmons
It's got those, like, bikini shots from Italy.
shane cashman
Oh, I can't wait.
I was thinking pantsuits, honestly.
libby emmons
Oh, you said full Pelosi and I immediately thought full Monty, which is like the naked people, right?
tim pool
Let's read some more.
We got B.R.
Tidwell says, Tim, your Discord has been holding House members accountable for speaker vote.
Sammy deserves a shout.
shane cashman
That's correct.
tim pool
Right on.
What are they doing?
They're calling people?
serge du preez
Um, I don't know.
I've just heard about this since we went live, but, uh, we'll be having Sammy, Sammy from footballers, Sammy football.
I think it is.
I don't remember her name.
libby emmons
Oh, I think I met her in Miami.
serge du preez
Yes.
Cool.
tim pool
So come hang out in the members only show.
And we'll be talking to our, uh, our members, TeamCast members on the, on the discord.
libby emmons
Charlie Kirk posted the phone numbers of the 20 reps who did not vote for Jordan.
tim pool
We'll talk about this in the members only.
But Brian Kilmeade on a hot mic insulting members of Congress is just so good.
riley moore
Vote tomorrow 11 a.m.
tim pool
That's actually perfect timing because it fits perfectly with my recording schedule.
That's why they did it.
libby emmons
I was recording something.
I was like on air today.
We were doing a pre-record with Laura Trump, who was on the show.
I thought that was very cool.
Yeah, she's great.
But we were doing the show and recording and at the same time there was the vote and I kept like looking down at my computer being like, don't look at your computer.
They're voting.
Don't look.
Okay, don't Don't look.
tim pool
You know what I think?
These guys who voted against Jordan just did it so that now Scalise or whoever, you know, Jordan is going to go to them and say, what do you want?
And they're going to be like, okay, you give me these things and I'll vote for you.
That's what it is.
Because there's no reason to vote against Jim Jordan.
I mean, like, are they going to go to their constituents and be like, I didn't want the house to have a speaker.
They're going to be like, dude, come on, you're wasting everyone's time.
Nobody wants Jim Jeffries.
libby emmons
Well, a lot of these guys, though, are in Democrat areas.
riley moore
Yeah, yeah.
libby emmons
Like New York.
riley moore
So maybe, maybe they do.
Well, you know, I don't know.
I, you know, I support Jim Jordan for Speaker.
I think everybody should be voting for him and put him in there.
tim pool
Did I say Jim Jeffries?
riley moore
I like what you did there.
I think there's a lot of bad blood in the conference.
There's just a lot of bad blood.
libby emmons
Yeah, it does seem a little fractured.
Well, you talked to Congressman Gates for a long time.
tim pool
I mean, Matt Gates is our best member of Congress, no question.
And there's like probably a dozen or so that are good, and the rest is just... There's a reason why you don't know their names.
There's a reason why you know the names of some and not others.
libby emmons
The backbenchers.
tim pool
Yeah, and they just might as well not be there.
riley moore
At the end of the day, they all get a vote in this.
libby emmons
Oh, for sure.
riley moore
And that's the herding of the cats and smaller venue.
I was in the West Virginia State Legislature previously.
So I've had a little bit of experiences with this because I was in house leadership.
It's all personal.
For us, it was all personality driven.
It really was.
I mean, we get people vote for us or against it.
Not always based on policy, but more kind of voted on Do they like you?
Do they feel like they can work with you?
Is part of it.
And I don't know if some of them are going to be able to come off of that.
I don't know.
unidentified
Yeah.
shane cashman
It seems like a lot of those people value reputation over authenticity, you know, and that's, they're not there for that.
tim pool
All right, Nick, Mr. Corbrata says, in Canada our tax isn't hidden.
It's called the carbon tax and it's 20%.
Longtime listener and OG Pang member.
Much love from Canada.
Sorry to hear you're from Canada.
I hope you guys win your freedom though.
I do.
Shout out to the Freedom Truckers, Freedom Convoy.
riley moore
Carbon tax.
serge du preez
Fake.
riley moore
That's like...
This whole carbon thing is fake.
The whole climate agenda is fake.
serge du preez
You're made of carbon?
Is that crazy?
unidentified
Huh?
serge du preez
You're made of carbon?
unidentified
Yes!
shane cashman
So what do they mean when they say they want to eliminate the carbon footprint?
serge du preez
Hey!
No, hey!
It does make you think, doesn't it?
shane cashman
What do you mean?
serge du preez
Yeah.
libby emmons
All right.
tim pool
Paracelsus Undirect says, Tim has to ignore that Marxist collectivists have won and occupy the US.
McCarthy was right.
America is experiencing oligarchic corporatism.
Perhaps.
But I don't understand why I can say it 800 times people don't seem to understand.
There is more than one ideological attempt to take over in this country.
There are probably tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of organized ideological groups.
But it is the Marxists who have gained the most power, technically.
When you look at their ideology, there's no logic, it makes no sense.
Womixn is the word one day, then it's women with a Y, then women with an I, and then that's offensive, and then it's, you must say woman.
There's no plan.
That's why at first it was racism, then sexism, then feminism, then intersectional feminism, then total intersectionality, then critical theory, and it keeps changing because the left doesn't have anything.
Like people have said, have tried to figure out what woke means, and I said, it is the current social orthodoxy of the left.
That's it.
There's nothing else.
There's no underlying principle because it changes.
How can you say it's Marxist when they're pro-foreign war and intervention?
They defy any logic and reasoning.
serge du preez
It's amorphous.
tim pool
Yeah, it's literally just what the greater thing is adhered to, what the social orthodoxy is.
Can we get clicks and views from it, then it is a good thing.
And that's why, like, They'll disagree with the right no matter what.
Right?
So, you know, the example I often give is, Hasan Piker makes a video, I say, he's completely right about this.
He responds by insulting me and telling me I'm wrong.
Because he has to do that.
serge du preez
Yeah, of course.
tim pool
That's what the left is.
Are you aligned with the social orthodoxy or not?
If you're not, you're bad and you're right-wing.
serge du preez
It's like they've distilled the current good, and the current good is above all.
That's all it is.
tim pool
So, I think the Ukraine war is a really great example.
The war in Ukraine, all these leftists support.
How does that happen?
For what reason are they in favor of the U.S.
intervention?
They have no reason.
serge du preez
Yeah, no reasons.
tim pool
If they were on social media, and notice that every one of their views aligns with what social media permits and promotes.
unidentified
Hmm.
tim pool
Everything.
That's all it is.
If you were to get rid of the social media apparatus, they would be agreeing with whatever the television said.
That's it.
So that's why I say this ideology is promoted and pushed through social media, not the universities.
The universities, or I should say, the universities promote and push it, obviously, but it only has power because these people think they can get clicks and traffic on social media.
If the big tech companies banned these people, they would change their tune in two seconds, which is why AOC is now saying we need surgical strikes on Hamas, because she knows what butters her bread.
And she's watching all the people saying pro.
Look, all these people who are pro-Palestine are now supporting Hamas and they're getting cancelled.
The Harvard students who wrote the letter being like, please, no, we made a mistake about this.
Social media told them Black Lives Matter is the winner, support them.
So they did.
But oopsie, they were wrong.
The power structure said, no, no, no, no, not this time.
AOC changes her tune and all of a sudden she's like, well, we have to stop Gaza.
They're fighting rockets too and Hamas must be dealt with.
Wow.
Major departure from the democratic socialists of America who have outright promoted and supported Hamas as resistance freedom fighters and cheered in the streets of New York for bombing civilians.
Not an exaggeration.
libby emmons
No, it's actually what's been happening.
tim pool
When the woman said they fired rockets on Tel Aviv, they all cheered and screamed.
Yes.
And AOC has inverted her position.
Why?
Because she knows who butters her bread.
The machine, you can't support this.
And the people who are, are losing their jobs.
And like, there's a doctor in New York got fired for cheering for this.
She went on social media and she cheered for Hamas.
She got fired.
Watch them change their tune overnight.
And now they're gonna say, you know, I always did wonder about BLM.
Whatever social media tells them to support, they will.
libby emmons
Well, that happened to an Air Canada pilot who got suspended for being pro-Hamas as well.
tim pool
They thought they were doing the right thing?
libby emmons
Yeah, they thought they were doing the right thing by hating Jews.
unidentified
That's right!
libby emmons
Don't they always think that?
shane cashman
Was it a tweet?
Was he on the intercom?
libby emmons
No, there were photographs of him at rallies with very detailed signs about how much he hates Israel.
unidentified
Wow.
riley moore
Well, in the way the left is organized themselves, you have to remember is through the Cold War, it was very easy and binary, right?
Because the socialists, the left, it was class war, right?
That was the identifier.
That was how they, you know, the proletariat and blah, blah, blah, blah, bourgeoisie, that's how they organized themselves.
After the collapse of the Soviet Union and the end of the Cold War, this is where we saw the rise of identity politics.
How do you get more power?
You create more identities, right?
And this is why I see this fractious numbers of groups that they're trying to wrap their arms around.
As it relates to some type of grievance group, but that they brought into the fold.
tim pool
But how does it give you more power?
How does having more identities?
It's because there is a machine that will share your posts with more people if you have more keywords.
So look these Vice articles up.
The hilarious one, I'll try and find it for the Uncensored, where it's like, Black trans women of color fighting police brutality exemplify Black Lives Matter perfectly, and it's like, wow, they really crammed everything into one headline there.
So, you make an article that says racism is bad, you'll get X views.
Sexism is bad, Y views.
It's not X plus Y, if you combine them, it's X times Y, it's exponential.
Because what happens with the social media algorithms is the more hits you get, Then they exponentially increase how much they share your content.
The algorithm on YouTube used to function like this.
I believe YouTube functioned like this.
If in the first 10 minutes your video goes out, it hits more than 10% of your subscribers, and they click it, then YouTube will amplify it 100-fold.
Because they're like, we got a hot one here, push this one out.
They desperately want to make sure that hot content, that people want to watch, gets the most traffic and makes the most money.
And content that is bad gets pushed away so that viewers stay on the platform and watch something else.
So, if you combine all the keywords, you're going to hit a wider swath of users, you're going to get more hits in the first 10 minutes, and the algorithm will promote you exponentially further than if you just chose one.
So of course, if you said, I like Trump, Yeah, you get a thousand views.
But if you put, Donald Trump is racist, sexist, anti-gay, Donald Trump, Donald Trump, go away.
Well, now you got Trump three times.
You got all these other buzzwords.
Boom, you're getting promoted like crazy.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
All right, we got this from Gabriel Lopez.
He says, can Hamas rockets even demolish entire buildings?
If they can, why aren't Israeli buildings demolished?
Iron Domely captures 90%.
Some pass through, do damage, but nowhere near demolition level.
On the other side, half of Gaza is demolished exactly like the hospital.
The first question is, was the hospital demolished entirely?
I don't think that was the case, but was it?
unidentified
Don't know.
libby emmons
No, I don't think so.
tim pool
Yeah, I don't think it was demolished entirely.
It may have been.
And that being said, it may have been Israel!
It may have been a strike from Israel that was targeting terrorists that were using the hospital, or they made a mistake.
Who knows?
It seems, based on the evidence I've seen so far, my preliminary assessment is, it is more likely a Hamas rocket misfire than Israel blowing up a hospital.
riley moore
And that's what I believe.
But obviously there's...
Information trying to counter that narrative, but that is just by what I saw, what I've seen, that's what I believe.
tim pool
It seems to be the simpler solution.
Hamas fired a rocket.
These are makeshift, improvised devices.
They are powerful and it caused tremendous damage to a hospital.
It could have been a lot of things, but maybe the videos aren't real.
We just don't know definitively.
But I feel like it's too cartoonishly villainy to be like, Israel, blow up a hospital full of children.
It's like, okay, look, like, I understand there's a lot of serious airstrikes that are hitting civilian areas.
But the narrative Israel pushes out, whether true or false, doesn't matter.
The statements they make is limit civilian casualties.
The statements made by Hamas, videos of them parading around the children they've captured and the families they've killed.
riley moore
Exactly.
tim pool
I'm sorry, dude.
Exactly.
I'm not giving Hamas the benefit of the doubt on this one.
riley moore
No.
tim pool
I can't do it.
Plus, what we've seen, it just leans in that direction.
But I'm not, I'm not claiming, I know definitively in Israel, Israel is completely innocent when it comes to collateral damage or its war.
What do you expect?
But this idea that Like, you're gonna trust Hamas after they put out a video of them with the children of the families they've kidnapped.
riley moore
They've been publicly executing people.
tim pool
Yeah.
riley moore
Hostages.
tim pool
There's videos of them killing civilians who are just driving their car, like, pulling up to a kibbutz, and they just walk up to the car and just kill the drivers.
riley moore
Yes.
tim pool
I mean, come on.
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
At the very least, Israel's like, hey, we're trying to limit civilian casualties.
And it's like, OK, well, I don't completely believe you're doing an effective job at it.
Maybe AOC is right.
We need more precision and intelligence in the issue.
But at the very least, they're saying it.
I don't know what else to do.
libby emmons
That's what we did with Iraq.
Remember the one Patriot missile?
riley moore
Yeah.
libby emmons
Going down the building.
Remember that?
tim pool
What was that?
libby emmons
In the Iraq War.
Remember?
You don't remember this?
Nope.
tim pool
You're older than me.
libby emmons
I'm way older than you.
Yeah, but so George Bush launched this Iraq war and we kept seeing, I remember because my stepmother was obsessed with watching it on CNN, which at the time was your basic news is what it seemed like.
But they played, you know, 24-hour coverage and it was just you kept seeing this one Patriot missile like almost going down a chimney and blowing stuff up.
It was really fascinating.
tim pool
So here's Anwar Abu Bakr says, Israel said they did it, Tim.
I have the tweet from Israel.
You are lying.
No, I didn't.
I mentioned during the show that there was a guy who tweeted they did it and then deleted the tweet, which doesn't mean anything.
It could be that you just instantly believe he's the bad guy because you're biased.
I don't think a single tweet from someone saying we did a thing and then deleting it proves anything.
I think it's interesting circumstantial evidence indicating there's a possibility they did, but I don't know how we're going to know for sure definitively.
Because I have the tweet from the Israeli official, happy to share it with you, they did it.
I've also heard from others that the individual who tweeted out isn't actually an official, so what am I supposed to do there, huh?
unidentified
Yep.
shane cashman
There were reports that Israel said they were going to have to target hospitals.
Then there were reports that Hamas said they were going to use their biggest rocket right before this.
It's impossible to know anything.
You cannot be emotionally attached to any bit of news the second it comes out.
That's dangerous.
libby emmons
You have to be very careful.
tim pool
I'm going to pull up this real quick.
libby emmons
I looked up the thing you were talking about in Vice.
unidentified
It's literally like a dozen articles.
tim pool
The guy who tweeted this out that got deleted is not an official with the government.
He's a media personality.
libby emmons
It just looked like it.
Is that the one where the guy said he was with Al Jazeera?
No.
tim pool
That one was annoying.
That's probably fake.
libby emmons
That looked fake.
The account is deleted and there's no one of that name working at Al Jazeera.
shane cashman
And check when these Twitter accounts were created, please.
libby emmons
That one was September.
shane cashman
Right.
tim pool
Of this year, right?
I saw someone retweet the person who spammed 500 posts.
I work for Al Jazeera and it was, you know, what did they say?
It was Israel or Hamas or whatever.
Either way, I ignore it because I'm like, get out of here with your bot garbage.
shane cashman
Yup.
libby emmons
It looked very...
Yeah, and that account is gone now.
tim pool
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riley moore
Yeah, you can follow me at Riley Moore WV.
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If you want to check out my congressional race.
shane cashman
Sweet.
I'm Shane Cashman everywhere online except for TikTok because they banned me from my videos with Alex Jones.
The second they heard Alex's voice, they were nuked my account.
I don't care.
I hate TikTok.
But Shane Cashman everywhere.
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serge du preez
And I am Serge.com and I am rooting for the Bucks and you should be too.
We play against England and we can beat them again, guys.
Cheers.
tim pool
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