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Sept. 15, 2023 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Timcast IRL - Democrat Governor Makes NEW DECREE To BAN GUNS AGAIN w/Ashley St Clair & Alex Stein
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alex stein
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ashley st clair
08:26
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ian crossland
12:36
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phil labonte
08:00
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tim pool
01:06:58
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serge du preez
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tim pool
So the governor of New Mexico, she banned guns last week and a judge ruled, yeah you
So, like any tyrant trying to rule by decree, she has now issued a narrow public order that recognizes and respects the judge's ruling, but this new order banned guns in places where families or children may gather.
Yeah, she's still trying to ban guns.
And you've got the media being like, she's narrowed the ban and lifted it.
No, she didn't.
You can argue that she's narrowed the decree, but she is trying to- this is what Cuomo did.
When the courts were like, you can't shut down churches, he goes, okay, here's a new executive order for another reason we can shut down churches.
Sue me.
Because now we have to keep going to court over and over and over again, even though she knows she's lost these people out of their minds.
We got really big news today, and it's crazy.
Not surprising though because it's Friday and they want to bury a lot of stories.
Three men who were charged with attempting to kidnap Gretchen Whitmer have been acquitted on all charges.
Yeah, it was a hoax.
We got the special prosecutor, special counsel trying to gag order Donald Trump.
And then we got this crazy video.
You've got people in New York protesting Ocasio-Cortez because of the illegal immigrants, and she's yelling over them being like, don't worry, once we give them all work visas, it will be better.
And then they just yell louder.
Yeah, she's totally out of her mind.
We'll talk about that, but before we get started, head over to TimCast.com, click in the menu bar, TimCast IRLX Miami, or the link in the description below.
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I don't know if I should shout out who's going to be there just yet, because we're still waiting, but...
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
I kind of don't want to, but I think Alex Stein's going to show up.
alex stein
I'm going to be there.
Pimp on a Blimp is going to be in Miami with my thong bikini, so if you guys want to see it.
Tough Friendly.
tim pool
I don't know anymore.
unidentified
Please, Tim.
alex stein
It's Tough Friendly.
This is going to raise your ESG score.
tim pool
Maybe in like a few days.
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We got a bunch of really awesome people hanging out.
Obviously, you know, Alex Stein's already here.
alex stein
Pimp on a blimp.
Thank you for having me, Tim.
Always a pleasure.
tim pool
Absolutely.
Ashley St.
Clair's here.
ashley st clair
Hello, hello.
I'm back.
They let me back in.
tim pool
I'm assuming everybody already knows who both of you are, but I don't know if you wanted to...
ashley st clair
Well, I do want to shout out, I'm Ashley St.
Clair, I work at the Babylon Bee, and I'm the author of a quote-unquote anti-trans children's book, Elephants Are Not Birds.
You should check it out.
But the Babylon Bee also has a new book out, our Guide to Gender.
tim pool
Right on.
alex stein
And I'm Primetime Alex Stein.
I have a show on BlazeTV called Primetime with Alex Stein, and I have a pro trans book, A Penis Can Be a Vagina, is what my book is called.
tim pool
We're actually, we're working on coffee for Alex.
alex stein
Yes, we are.
tim pool
A signature, it's gonna be, I think it's called Alex Stein Primetime Grind, two times caffeine.
alex stein
Primetime Grind, extra caffeine, because I know you guys are, you guys need it for work.
We all need it for work.
We're tired.
You're gonna drink some of this caffeinated java, and you're gonna feel great, and it's gonna give you that clean high.
Not the Hunter Biden fentanyl high that you're used to with Folgers.
tim pool
Well, it's an upper, not a downer, but so we got Philobonti hanging out.
phil labonte
How you doing?
I'm Philobonti, lead singer of All That Remains, anti-communist and counter-revolutionary.
ian crossland
Ian, do you caffeinate Alex before some of your iconic news conferences where you step in?
alex stein
I mean, yeah, I'm addicted to Diet Coke, so yeah.
ian crossland
Rock and roll, baby.
alex stein
And coffee.
phil labonte
I heard a rumor that The Grind is going to come with a free prescription for Adderall as well.
alex stein
Yes, you get Adderall and fentanyl.
tim pool
You don't.
phil labonte
Legal, legal.
It's a prescription.
It's from a doctor.
I'm not saying we're giving away everything illegally.
tim pool
Bro, I'm just trying to suck some coffee over here.
alex stein
Now it's an Adderall dealer.
No, no free Adderall.
tim pool
Ian's here, of course.
ian crossland
Of course, yes.
tim pool
And Serge is pressing the buttons.
serge du preez
I am pressing buttons.
We're all in now.
Let's go for it.
unidentified
Let's go!
tim pool
We got this story from Santa Fe, New Mexican.
Governor alters public health order, ending gun ban in Albuquerque area.
Talk about a garbage lie of a headline.
Because what does it actually say?
First of all, they bury it a week after declaring a public health emergency, blah blah blah.
There's an announcement of the changes during a news conference, blah blah blah.
And then you go all the way down and it actually says that She added, the ban on carrying firearms, open or concealed, will remain in place at parks and playgrounds where families and children gather.
That is to say, she is issuing a new order to bypass the courts trying to still ban guns.
You can't do it.
But she's trying.
We're winning.
Impeachment!
Charge this person.
Impeach, convict, indict, prison.
ian crossland
I don't know if that's... Is this enough of a reason to impeach a sitting governor?
unidentified
Yes.
ian crossland
Then do it.
Do it.
This is number two.
Strike two.
You're gonna let this woman strike out?
phil labonte
She's intentionally trying to violate constitutional rights and she continues.
So now this is the second attempt.
So impeach her.
Just start the process.
Get her out of there.
tim pool
But it's a Democrat trifecta.
State's never gonna happen.
phil labonte
Fair enough.
I don't think that there's gonna be success.
tim pool
That's why she's doing it.
phil labonte
Yeah.
Because she's insulated, which is a problem, which speaks to a problem that we have in the country, that if your party does something wrong, we just ignore it.
If your party, or if your opposing party, even comes close to stepping on the line, then you have to throw the book at them, which is a massive problem in a liberal society.
alex stein
Well, I think it really what it highlights is that we think we can fix all these problems at a federal level.
When COVID showed you that when you fight it at a lower level, even the state level, that's actually where you make change.
Now, I'm not saying that she should be able to supersede the Constitution, but this is why it's so important to, I mean, we care about the president, but it actually matters who your governor is.
It matters who your mayor is.
I mean, for me, I think it just kind of shows you how the smaller level of politics is almost more important because these people aren't going to follow rules, they're going to do whatever they want.
So it's really important you put people that are actually making the decisions for your state that you like, but she's ruining New Mexico.
phil labonte
This is something that we talk about a lot is how important local politics are.
tim pool
I got to be honest, I think the voters have ruined New Mexico.
alex stein
Yeah, that's fair.
ian crossland
Also, maybe they've tried to poison the country, but this is an inoculative success in my opinion.
tim pool
I mean, there's the argument that when they make power grab moves, it is bad for us no matter what.
It's not a victory.
Kyle Reynolds was not a victory.
The fact that they put him over the coals and all that stuff is a loss.
And I'm like, yes, in this instance though, I wonder if it actually is a victory in that You're watching the feeble, pathetic nature of, you know, Democrat decree.
It is powerless and impotent.
And they tried and failed and are being mocked for it.
And it's actually hurt them.
So I think this is a victory.
And it's almost like, you know, she made this move.
Slipped on a banana peel, landed in a bunch of dog crap on the ground and everyone's laughing at her for it, and now she's going, like, no, you can't laugh at me!
And then she slips again.
And we're just like, wow, this is hilarious.
alex stein
Well, I think she likes the publicity, but I mean, honestly, a lot of this is Jesse Pinkman and Walter White's problem.
If they wouldn't have made all that crystal meth in New Mexico.
I don't think we'd have this problem.
tim pool
Yeah, they gave Albuquerque a bad name.
alex stein
They gave Albuquerque a bad name!
tim pool
It used to have, like, southwestern salsa with, like, corn in it.
Now it's... now it's meth.
alex stein
You'd go to Schlotzky's, get the Albuquerque turkey, and now it's just a... What is it called?
Albuquerque turkey!
It's delicious!
On the sourdough bread, turkey, lettuce, tomato... Where?
tim pool
Schlotzky's?
alex stein
Schlotzky's is the same way.
tim pool
Yeah, I know, but that's not based on New Mexico, they have those in Chicago.
alex stein
No, but I'm saying they have the Albuquerque turkeys, one of their signature sandwiches.
My point being, it was a bad joke, but New Mexico is... And Netflix is in New Mexico now, I wonder if that has... With their headquarters?
Yeah, or they have a big studio there.
unidentified
Really?
alex stein
Yeah.
tim pool
Oh yeah, Schlotzky's is based in Texas.
unidentified
So good.
alex stein
Yeah, Schlotzky's is actually pretty good, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
alex stein
Schlotzky's stream!
tim pool
They got like, um, Rubens, right?
alex stein
Yeah, oh dude, they have a real- I love Schlotzky's.
tim pool
The Albuquerque turkey, you say?
alex stein
Albuquerque turkey.
tim pool
How has this turned into an ad for Schlotzky's?
I haven't had Schlotzky's in like, 20 years.
ian crossland
The Netflix has eight soundstages at the Albuquerque studios.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
It's pretty cool.
tim pool
So what are you saying?
alex stein
Well, it's just kind of turned into liberal Hollywood-esque.
Oh, right, right.
But this governor, see, that's the thing is she's realizing she's getting clicks and she's getting a lot of heat from it.
They like heat, Tim.
They don't care if it's bad publicity.
There's no such thing.
ashley st clair
I think she looks foolish.
She had even Democrats like Ted Lieu coming out.
alex stein
Yeah, Ted Lieu.
ashley st clair
I think she looks, I think she understands she looks foolish, which is why she's doubling down.
But what's interesting is she cites increased gun deaths as the reason for doing this and now you can't have them at public parks or anywhere where children are.
But I just looked up their stats.
It says on average 33 children and teens die by guns each year in New Mexico.
49% of those are suicides.
So I don't know what she expects to accomplish by banning them in parks.
phil labonte
Didn't she specifically say nothing?
Because she said that she didn't expect criminals to stop carrying guns.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
She said that in an interview, actually articulated that.
So it's intentionally aimed at law abiding citizens who are not going to actually be inclined to break the law.
ashley st clair
And why are they so obsessed with making everywhere our children go gun-free zones?
And making them targets for... It's an excuse.
Tragedy.
phil labonte
All it is is an excuse.
It has nothing to do with child safety and everything to do with, this will get the soccer moms scared for their kids and we will get support this way.
Because Karen doesn't want little Tommy to get shot.
That's it.
It's all just to pull on people's emotions.
alex stein
Well, to what Ashley said, though, you know how a lot of the gun deaths are suicides, so I have a way that we can actually decrease gun violence.
We just need to adopt Canada's plan of medically-assisted suicide, and then if we just give out free suicides, there'd be less gun-violent suicides.
phil labonte
We could always do it.
alex stein
We could always get the, uh... Canada, your hip hurts?
We can euthanize you.
phil labonte
I was thinking of the bullet train that they're trying to build in California.
That seems to work in Japan, so...
People jump in front of the bullet train all the time.
alex stein
Oh my gosh!
Man, that's what Logan Paul, the Suicide Force, yeah.
phil labonte
And actually, Japan's suicide is higher than the United States, and they have no guns.
So the idea that getting rid of guns is going to stop suicides, that's not going to happen.
ian crossland
I think it's mental health.
Most of it is mental health.
I mean, it stems from mental health, at the very least school shootings particularly, a lot of SSRIs and stuff that, like crazy chemicals.
Talked about Adderall earlier, like amphetamines on like 12, 13, 14 year olds that don't have a dad around to kind of help them learn how to navigate their rage.
That's a lot of this.
ashley st clair
Well, and that's the point.
If she actually cared about ending gun deaths, maybe she should address that 49% of them are stemming from some sort of mental health crisis.
alex stein
Well, and Ian, what you said, you made a really good point.
tim pool
I think they all are.
ashley st clair
Wow.
alex stein
But I just want to say this, Ian, like you just said, I don't even think it's all about race or class, which that is a big, important factor, but it comes down to if you don't have a parent, if you grew up without a dad, if you grew up without a mom, I think that's really the reason why- Mostly a dad.
You're mostly a dad.
tim pool
We talked about this on the Culture War show this morning, that single parent father homes have lower rates of criminal activity and drug abuse.
Single parent mother homes have higher rates.
And uh, so we don't know exactly why, but when the dad's not around, you will get a child who is high-raised.
alex stein
But we know why, because the dad's not beating the kid's ass when he does that.
tim pool
But not even necessarily that, you know, obviously the data shows that a father figure provides something, but my response was, I gotta be honest, I feel like a kid who grows up without a mom probably has more emotional issues.
Maybe emotionally cold, callous, stunted more so than you'd expect from someone else.
But we don't track that because we're not as concerned in the immediate
with the emotional and social development of the kid. We're more concerned with the
like the order of it.
ian crossland
The behavior. The behavior itself.
And that's the lashing out. Like the dad's the one, not always the one that's going to smack you down.
I'm not saying physically violent, obviously, but for whatever reason, the disciplinarian tends to be the male.
Not always.
My mom is the disciplinarian.
tim pool
Yeah, I don't know if that's true, actually.
I think the disciplinarian is the mom.
ian crossland
Yeah, I'm talking about things that aren't congruent with my family life.
My dad was like the liberal artist, and my mom was the one who was always around and was like, hell no you're not!
Put it down!
Down!
And then the look, you know, the look where like, I'm going to lose all my privileges.
tim pool
Ian's holding a fork and slowly moving it towards a power outlet.
ian crossland
She's like, stop!
tim pool
Put it down!
He's like, a little closer.
And she's like, no!
ian crossland
I wouldn't even get that close.
You get one chance in that family.
That was a hard disciplined family.
tim pool
Reminds me of one like, you see those videos where the cat is looking at the owner and just slowly knocking the jar towards the edge of the table?
Like, it's going to do it.
ashley st clair
That's what my toddler does.
alex stein
That's what my cat Kyle does.
He'll look at me and when he's mad or something, he'll just knock something off the table to get my attention.
It'll do it when I'm looking at it.
ian crossland
Does your toddler make eye contact with you while he's at it now?
ashley st clair
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah.
He knows.
He'll point at something he's not like an outlet and go, no.
He knows.
But they seek out danger and death.
tim pool
Yeah, but anyway, you know, the bigger picture here is let this lady have her 15 minutes of infamy.
I think she's embarrassing the Democratic Party.
And I have to be honest, I feel kind of like you couldn't ask for this kind of publicity in the inverse, right?
When you get David Hogg coming out and agreeing with you, that's all you need.
Now you can run campaign ads being like, David Hogg says there is no exception for the Constitution and defends Second Amendment rights and stuff like that.
ashley st clair
That's amazing.
tim pool
Yeah, forever.
alex stein
Can we talk about David Hogg though a little bit about how his dad was an FBI agent and the fact that he wasn't even at Parkland day of the shooting.
He was actually riding his bike there.
tim pool
Well, so, he was in a different part of the school, and then he went home, and then when he heard the news had come down, he jumped on his bike and went straight back.
alex stein
So he was really scared of a school shooter.
When there's a school shooter, that's what I do.
I get my bike and I drive straight to the school shooter.
tim pool
And it's fascinating because you had Kyle Kashuv, and he was trying to speak up too, but they were like, no, ignore that kid.
We don't want that message.
Yeah, because he was like, I was also at the school and like, I think we shouldn't do this and stuff.
But, uh, you know, it's all it's it's it's they David Hogg.
Brilliant kid.
Absolutely brilliant.
He is one of the best in the business when it comes to political manipulation and grifting and spitting in your face for political power.
Like, obviously, this kid knows exactly what he's doing.
He does this routine where he's like, oh, why won't we debate guns and everything?
And any legitimate person, Maj Touré, for instance, who's like, let's have a conversation, bro.
Ghost.
And then he'll try and target someone who's completely wrong and confused.
ashley st clair
Has he ever done a debate?
tim pool
Probably not.
I mean, look, he's a grifter.
He knows he can't win an actual gun debate.
That's it.
End of story.
That's what it is with Democrat politics.
That's why they don't engage and come on shows like this.
And then they use that they don't come on shows like this as an argument against us by saying he doesn't have people on the left on his show ever.
And it's like, yeah, you don't come on because your political arguments get annihilated.
alex stein
Well, Bill Mitchell, he's not on the left, but he did look like a lesbian on your show, to be fair.
tim pool
Well, he was the one who mentioned that.
alex stein
Yeah, I know, that was a funny clip.
I didn't even know that was a statement until he said it.
tim pool
And then he said immediately after, he said, I knew the moment I said it, it would be a clip.
And to give him respect, He ran with it, and he embraced it, and he said it, and then he made jokes consistently about how he thought he looked like an aging lesbian, and I'm like, I think that's- Who said this, Bill Mitchell?
Bill Mitchell.
alex stein
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, it's like, he- But look, I mean, like, if someone makes fun of you, and you roll with it and say, well, you know, then, you know, I'll make it the best I can, I can respect that, right?
You have to.
I think it's insulting to lesbians, and that's not fair, right?
You know what I mean?
ian crossland
But it's one thing to roll with someone making fun of you while they're doing it, and another thing to bring it up later and to insult yourself, humiliate again.
Like, it's unnecessary to be like, I remember all those people that were saying about me, like... But that's not how it went down.
tim pool
He had some zingers and one-liners that were throwbacks, and it was pretty funny.
And I'll say this for Bill.
You know, when we hung out, we had sushi, we ate dinner after the Culture War show, and hanging out with him and Laura was completely cordial and polite, and they laughed, and it was like normal conversation.
Outside of the political space, there was no trouble getting along.
And then once they went back on Twitter, it was just throwing fireballs again.
ian crossland
Oh, text!
alex stein
It's funny you say that, because I had Laura on my show this week, and I thought it'd be funny.
My producer actually likes DeSantis.
I had him put on a DeSantis shirt.
I thought, oh, maybe she'll just cuss him out.
She's very cordial and very nice.
I was hoping she was going to tear him a new asshole.
tim pool
Let's jump to this story from the post-millennial.
This is huge.
Three men accused of Gretchen Whitmer kidnap plot acquitted.
There you go.
I mean, what more do you need?
The last three men who were charged in the plot to kidnap Governor Gretchen Whitmer have all been found not guilty on all charges, by the way.
William Knoll, twin brother Michael Knoll, and Eric Molitor were among the 14 charged in the alleged plot, and all three have been acquitted.
Adam Fox and Barry Croft Jr.
were convicted of kidnapping conspiracy in 2022.
The two were also found guilty of conspiring to obtain a weapon of mass destruction, such as a bomb, to destroy a bridge.
It's such obvious BS.
Let me break down for you how this works.
The FBI finds some moron, and then keeps whispering things to him, like, don't you want to do this?
Come on, don't you want to do this?
And they'll be like, no, not really.
They'll be like, come on, let's do it anyway.
And they'll be like, no, not really.
They'll just get in the car, and they'll be like, OK.
Ah, he got in the car!
That proves it!
ian crossland
Yeah, this happened in Ohio when I was living there in 2012.
You can look this up.
I mean, it is just like more corroborative evidence that this happens more than once.
It's not like a one-off.
Three sentenced to prison for plot to blow up Ohio Bridge.
They were given explosives, dummy explosives, by the FBI.
Undercover FBI agents gave these three dudes fake explosives and apparently colluded with them.
alex stein
It's the same as a controlled drug buy.
tim pool
I want Donald Trump to criminally charge all FBI agents who participated in these conspiracies.
alex stein
Yeah, but that's what the FBI does, is they'll set you up like, oh, we have a cocaine dealer, and they'll set you up with the cocaine dealer, and the cocaine dealer's an FBI agent.
So, I mean, it was all set up.
But we're never gonna get any transparency with the FBI.
I mean, I think that the FBI and CIA killed JFK!
tim pool
I do not want Trump to go in and just be like, We're shutting it down.
unidentified
We're defending it.
tim pool
No, I want to be like, whoa, hold on.
Yes, yes.
But first, audit and criminal indictments for any and all FBI agents who were party to criminal plots.
And you know what?
There's a lot of them we don't know about.
ashley st clair
Oh, there's thousands.
unidentified
Thousands.
tim pool
I'd imagine more.
Because you look at what happens with the Whitmer thing.
How many times has the FBI engaged in a conspiracy to say kidnap a politician and then not convince anyone to join them?
So we pull up those records and we say, ah, we got an agent John Smith right here.
Looks like you engaged in a plot to arrest a mayor or to kidnap a mayor.
And they'll be like, well, yeah, but we were doing a sting.
Well, it says here you were the one who initiated it.
Put your hands behind your back.
Shut your mouth.
You have the right to remain silent.
Lock them up.
ian crossland
That's a hardcore dude.
ashley st clair
But you know those, the men who were just, what were they, acquitted?
They should be thankful that the jury was able to learn about these rogue FBI informants because most people in that position wouldn't have that.
unidentified
Rogue?
tim pool
That's what the FBI does.
So these guys have their lives Dangling off the edge of a cliff while these FBI agents smirk and give the Kubrick stare and laugh about it?
I am done playing these games.
This is abject evil.
There is no, no legitimate reason for the FBI to make fake plots and then try and trick people to do them.
It doesn't make sense.
These guys, if they never met the FBI, would be sitting around drinking, talking smack, and they'd be worrying about football.
Instead, the FBI comes in and goads them and coaxes them, gives them materials.
This is what we see across the board with all these different plots.
I say arrest and criminally charge, indict all of the FBI agents because they are party to the conspiracy.
I think the law should even be amended that says you cannot charge someone Under this law, unless the plan was created outside of law enforcement.
If law enforcement agencies create the plot, then that should be fruit of the poison tree, and none of these men should be able to be convicted.
ian crossland
That's like all sting operations.
tim pool
No it isn't.
No it's not.
ian crossland
Maybe I'm using the wrong word.
tim pool
Here's what some of what the FBI has done.
Entrapment?
Entrapment is when the person is being forced to either by blackmail extortion or otherwise.
But what the FBI has done, which is more questionable but not in this territory... Pretend to be a drug dealer?
No, they go to church, they go to mosques, and they just hang out.
And then they wait to see if anyone says anything, and then they leave.
And there are a bunch of stories where I've heard, I've heard these stories, you can look them up, where there were imams in like Dearborn who reported the feds to the FBI immediately when the guy came in and said, hey, here's what I'm thinking.
They were like, oh, okay, have a nice day.
And then immediately called the feds and said, this guy's crazy, get him out of here.
And they were like, all right, all right, all right.
They leave.
That is bad.
Those are crazy stories.
That cop, that FBI guy should be arrested for doing that.
But if all they do is, we are going to have a criminal informant tell us if something's going on, I got no problem with that.
Right?
We want to stop legitimate acts of terror.
What we do not want is the feds creating the plot and then trying to trick people into joining it.
That right there, the moment it's discovered, wait, wait, wait, who came up with this plan?
Agent Smith?
Okay, charges dismissed.
Case closed.
Men, you're all free to go.
alex stein
Yeah, but Tim, Joe Rogan talks about it, you know this, in January 6 we probably know this, is they have agent provocateurs where they can go to a riot or to a protest and actually accelerate things, make things worse, and we never hold them accountable.
And it's an actual crime to lie to an FBI agent.
tim pool
And even outside of the context of an investigation.
So Michael Flynn was criminally charged even though he wasn't being formally questioned.
alex stein
That's ridiculous.
tim pool
It's like, it's like you're hanging out at, he was, they were hanging out at like a dinner or something at the White House and they were like, so, uh, you know, tell me about this.
Then he's like, oh, you know, X, Y, and Z. And they're like, we got him.
He just lied to us.
That's it.
unidentified
Yep.
alex stein
You're not even under formal investigation if you lie to an FBI agent.
tim pool
Let me, let me, let me, let me, I want to ask you, Alex, why, why, uh, how come Owen Schroer is getting 60 days in jail?
And the reason is, the prosecution said he yelled death to tyrants.
He said Democrats are tyrants, and he yelled death to tyrants.
And Ray Epps, who quite literally said to go into the building several times, was charged with nothing.
The argument made by the government was, Owen Schroyer didn't go in to the Capitol, but he didn't need to.
The people he was goading on did.
Ray Epps is the guy who orchestrated, walked around saying to do it, What's going on?
alex stein
Well, for me, the biggest red flag is when you see the New York Times and you see Adam Kinzinger and you see all these left-wing people.
Adam Kinzinger, fake left-winger, fake right-winger, whatever you want to... Fake both.
Yeah, fake both.
But my point is, when the mainstream media is running cover for Ray Epps, that's the biggest red flag possible.
That just makes it seem like, oh, this guy's definitely an agent provocateur.
But with Owen, I mean, it's his connection to Infowars.
They have to take him down and they were not going to give him probation.
They have to send a message by making him go to jail.
But what's ridiculous is Richard Barnett, he's the guy that put his feet on Nancy Pelosi's desk.
I think he got seven years.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex stein
I mean, when you're in your 60s and you get seven years, I mean, that's almost life.
unidentified
Yeah.
ashley st clair
And when these guys let them into the building.
alex stein
Those mag locks, you had to turn off those mag locks.
tim pool
But the cops opened the door.
unidentified
They gave them a tour of the Capitol.
The QAnon shaman was just having a nice stroll.
tim pool
He was walking around confused and the cops gave him directions and they opened the door for him.
They were telling him where to go.
But that's an inside job.
And AOC is right.
When she said that some of these cops were in on it, I'm like, yes.
I think that the Republicans should start arresting all these cops.
And I mean it 100%.
What you need to do is stop allowing the frogs to boil, right?
All of us are always sitting in this pot, and it's slowly, slowly getting hotter so nobody moves.
And then we go from, in 2018, there's some street fights, to in 2023, they've indicted the president 94 times, or that's 94 charges on several different indictments.
They're arresting lawyers and journalists, and it's just like, okay, how do we get to this point?
It's because it's incremental.
Here's what you do, Republicans.
Matt Gaetz.
They won't do it because they're like, oh, but we don't want to piss off cops.
You immediately say, we agree with Democrats.
January 6th was a problem.
Here's a video of the police letting them in and helping the QAnon shaman.
These police aided and abetted the insurrection and we need to get to the bottom of this.
Subpoena the cops and then criminally charge them and make them go into the prisons with the J6ers.
Each and every one.
Every single cop.
Especially the one who shot Ashley Babbitt.
No questions.
You should do it.
And then what happens?
Uh-oh.
Now you're gonna have the Capitol Police going to Democrats being like, what did you do with this can of worms?
Why are we involved in this?
And there's not going to be a public- you get AOC on your side right away.
The first thing I do is I go to AOC and say, how would you like to indict the cops who helped the J6ers?
She's gonna say yes.
She's already on camera saying it's a problem.
Then you put it in Pelosi's face and you put it in the Democrats' face being like, you're right, all of these cops that help these people come in, we're going to lock them up too.
Now you've created a problem for Democrats in that the press now becomes the Capitol Police that they championed, cherished, and celebrated are all going to jail too.
Turn it back on them.
Turn it back on them.
alex stein
Yeah, but that's never gonna happen.
tim pool
Well, it's not a question of never gonna happen.
alex stein
That's what it should be done.
I tend to agree with you.
We should hold these people accountable.
phil labonte
The only thing that's gonna stop this stuff, though, I think is actually abolishing bureaucracy.
Get rid of the FBI.
Or fire everybody there.
How do you do that?
ashley st clair
Because everybody says abolish the FBI.
I agree.
There's been a weaponization of our DOJ and all these three-letter agencies, but how do you do that?
I don't know that any president really could go in and actually do it.
tim pool
Well, wasn't the FBI created by decree?
ashley st clair
Wasn't the DHS?
I don't know that they're going to be able to dismantle that.
The last person who tried was shot in the head in Texas.
alex stein
Well, what they're going to do is they're just going to have a, and I wouldn't be surprised if law enforcement, and this is probably not going to happen very soon, but just like with COVID, how we had the contact tracing apps, they're going to have like law enforcement contact tracing apps with the phone.
They're going to be able to look in your phone.
They're going to know if you're doing anything illegal.
They're going to know, artificial intelligence will be able to scan your text messages, listen to your phone calls.
So we won't even need the traditional cops like you think, you know, we'll almost need like...
ashley st clair
And you do need, I mean, there are some good things that the FBI does, you know.
unidentified
What?
alex stein
There's nothing good.
ashley st clair
Child exploitation.
alex stein
No.
unidentified
You know.
tim pool
Well, they, you know, Tim Ballard.
alex stein
Oklahoma City bombing?
Not good.
tim pool
I think, I think Ballard said he worked with FBI on trafficking stuff.
alex stein
I'm not saying every FBI agent is bad, but the majority of their work is not.
phil labonte
No, it's just a bad organization.
The idea that the federal government needs to have a police force, you can argue that the federal government needs to have a police force for secret service to protect the president, and maybe for Capitol Police and stuff like that.
The entire, like, every state has state police and they're all capable of working together.
They're all capable of sharing information.
It is not necessary.
ashley st clair
But even the state police are a problem.
Because who was enforcing all the COVID stuff?
phil labonte
You're right, and that's totally true, but again, it still decentralizes.
The problem becomes the centralization of power in Washington.
Everybody knows that Washington does not have the individual people or the state's best interests at heart.
Washington is concerned with Washington, and that's the way it's always going to be as long as power is centered there.
Now, I've heard people talk about moving Bureaus and bureaucracies and stuff to other parts of the country, and maybe there's an argument for that, but really?
Just get rid of it.
Get rid of it.
ian crossland
Cut it out.
tim pool
Abolish it.
ian crossland
It's a good point that it's the danger is the organization of it itself.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
It's the way it's organized.
The centralization essentially of top-down authority that one guy, I don't know if it's Merrick Garland or who is he?
He's not the head of the FBI.
phil labonte
He's the attorney general.
He's not the head of the FBI, but he's the head of the Justice Department.
ian crossland
You get these tops, Giving all the soldiers, basically, their marching orders, so all these capital police are told, let them in.
We don't want them to break all the windows.
Just open the doors and let them in.
So the cops stand back.
That's why, according to how you were saying, Tim, about arresting them, I tend towards like what they did to the Nazis, is you arrest the ringleaders, you arrest the ones at the top, and then the other ones, you know, they're basically going to be your soldiers.
tim pool
But there's videos of these cops opening the doors and saying, come on in.
I think that if we, if the Republicans right now, there's a video of this.
Say, I want to know who those cops are.
You bring them in for open public congressional testimony.
Say, why did you open the door and let them in?
Let them say it on C-SPAN to be reposted and rebroadcast by everybody on Twitter.
The officer says, We did open the doors.
Then, you can say, okay, the question now becomes, officer, you let them in, and some of these people have been in jail for two and a half years, how much time in prison do you deserve for being the one who opened the doors?
Let the public decide.
Should these officers go to prison?
Because if you say no, we must release the J6ers.
ian crossland
I'd be open to investigation, because you could get those cops to be like, I was told by my commanding officer by name to bring them in and make them testify on their own.
alex stein
It would be an easy chain of command to figure out how those doors got opened.
But I do want to congratulate the FBI on one thing.
Because they did great police work when they found two passports on 9-11 of the terrorists.
They weren't able to find the black boxes, but they were able to find those passports, so that was great.
tim pool
Well, I got really lucky that they didn't get burned up in the explosion.
alex stein
I know, thank goodness.
ian crossland
It must have fallen out of the plane before it hit the building, because they found it a couple blocks away.
tim pool
No, it could be blown.
alex stein
It could be blown in the wind.
tim pool
I mean, a lot of debris went very, very far.
Oh, that's true.
ian crossland
They were blowing out the sides of the buildings, a lot of that debris.
tim pool
I mean, in the initial crash, debris was launched, like, hundreds of yards.
It's crazy.
But, uh, they were just lucky that they didn't get hurt.
alex stein
Yeah, the passenger just went through the nose cone of the building, and then two blocks down the street.
ian crossland
No, he must have thrown it out the window.
tim pool
I mean, you know why I'm really impressed with that?
Because I lose my passport all the time.
alex stein
Yeah!
tim pool
In my own house.
alex stein
You just need to hire an FBI agent!
ashley st clair
That's not a good thing to lose!
Dude, what?
tim pool
No, but like, I'll put it in the safe or something, and then we'll travel, so I'll take it out, and then we'll put it in a suitcase, and then we'll come back and put the suitcase in the room, and then I'll be like, was it in the bag, or was it in... Oh, and I gotta tear the whole bag open, and I'm like, no, I put it back in the shelf, and then I'll open it, and there it is.
You know, but it's hard sometimes, because I don't use it that often.
alex stein
Well, call your FBI agent.
They'll know.
tim pool
Well, you know, maybe they could work with that because they weren't able to find the swatters who swatted us 15 times.
unidentified
Abolish the FBI!
Back to the main point.
tim pool
When I think about things like this, like, hey, bring in these cops and have them testify.
How come nothing like this ever happens?
Even when it comes to impeachment, it is the most mundane and predictable thing you can expect from the GOP.
There's evidence.
It's been around for years that we've known about with Hunter Biden.
In 2019, Politico wrote Biden Inc.
We have that whole, all of it laid out by a journalist, and now four years later, it's like, let's ask this question.
It's like, where's anyone to be like, I am going to file a subpoena for all of the police officers and make them come testify.
I just, I really don't think anyone ever does anything.
It's so boring.
I mean, I get it.
I just, I don't understand this man.
About anything in life, I just don't understand why nobody does anything.
And I'm gonna say this to the extreme, I mean this in the most literal sense, to the most extreme degree, no one does anything.
Now I'll clarify what I mean by that, because obviously we all do different things.
But I mean, there are prominent, powerful people with lots of money who you'll hear complain and then do literally nothing.
ashley st clair
You answered it.
Because they're powerful, prominent people with lots of money.
tim pool
That's my point.
ashley st clair
That's why they don't do anything.
Because they want to continue being prominent, powerful people with lots of money.
tim pool
You don't lose that.
unidentified
You don't lose that from... Elon Musk does stuff.
ashley st clair
He's an anomaly.
Absolute anomaly.
tim pool
And that's my point.
And he's... I think it's massively beneficial for him.
I mean, granted, they're coming after him.
alex stein
Well, not really.
tim pool
He's getting sued.
ashley st clair
Now they're coming after him.
DOJ's coming after him, too.
But they don't do anything because it's not... They don't want to.
They'd rather go on the news and line their pockets and increase their net worth by $100 million.
tim pool
But what do they do?
ashley st clair
I think they should be sent to the barracks when they serve in office.
tim pool
They're NPCs.
ashley st clair
And they're not allowed to leave.
They should be in the barracks.
tim pool
They are NPCs.
And I tell you this because...
I know people who go on more adventures and take more risks, who are lower income than wealthy individuals in this country and in this world.
There's very few people who are willing to take large, ridiculous risks in order to affect some kind of positive change.
And it's like, off the top of my head, who can I even think of?
Elon?
That's maybe it?
Vivek?
Vivek!
alex stein
Even he had, I mean I like Vivek, but I mean he even had a pharmaceutical deal that went bad, so I mean he's not... No, but the deal went good.
ian crossland
He made a lot of money.
tim pool
In terms of doing crazy stuff, like big boisterous things, like Vivek is... He's doing something, yeah, I'm not hating on that.
ian crossland
If he's saying he's gonna end the FBI, he's basically putting himself in JFK's position.
tim pool
Oh, I love it.
I think he's great.
ian crossland
That's taken a huge risk.
phil labonte
Just so we are clear, Tim is not saying that he loves the idea of Vivek being in JFK's position specifically.
ian crossland
He loves that he would do that, and that he's not in JFK's position.
We're a different place and time.
tim pool
I love that he's stepping up and saying, I am willing to put my face out there with these statements, taking all the risks that come along with it, because it's the right thing to do.
unidentified
Yes.
alex stein
Well, after this pandemic... I have an idea.
Okay, let's hear it.
tim pool
I just want to hire a hundred clowns to run around Vegas.
alex stein
Well, I'm clown-pilled.
I'm into it!
phil labonte
I don't even know why!
ashley st clair
Everyone's gonna think they were the hackers.
tim pool
Well, how about we just... How about, Alex, we get you a hundred... Okay, maybe a thousand.
We hire a thousand clowns.
alex stein
Extras, yes.
tim pool
And you just... They just will do what you ask them to do?
ian crossland
They'll put FBI informant in it.
Don't do it.
alex stein
We're talking about doing a street show like Oprah did.
ashley st clair
Let's have them go to DC, the clowns, and then we'll put little signs.
tim pool
Remember when Oprah had the I Got a Feeling song and it turned out everyone in the audience were actually dancers?
I'm talking about having clowns do a street show to, like, be comedic and generate attention on some issue.
unidentified
You guys go to dark places with this stuff.
alex stein
Inside Job, 9-11.
tim pool
Yeah, a bunch of clowns gonna be like, it was worse than January 6th.
phil labonte
Clowns stormed the building.
ian crossland
The makeup was terrible.
alex stein
I want to make this point, though, it sounds so bad, and I hope it doesn't get me in trouble, but I've lost almost all faith in humanity after the pandemic.
I think the dumber, the bigger the group gets, the dumber it gets.
So that's why I'm almost empathetic to the elites that don't want to interact with us.
tim pool
Oh, dude, I totally get where Bill Gates is coming from.
alex stein
That's what I'm saying, I get where Bill Gates is coming from.
He's like, just give them all a vaccine, shut up, just go about your business.
tim pool
Hold on, hold on.
Anybody who's run a large company, Understands the frustrations of what can go wrong will go wrong.
And you know, like running this company, there are things that happen where it's like, I am genuinely shocked that something happened.
Like I don't understand how explicit instructions of take A to B and then do C turns into X, Y, and Z. And I'm like, I, I, how did this, how did this happen?
And no one has an answer.
And I'm like experiencing that.
I'm like, ah, so now I get it.
Bill Gates, with his, you know, how many, 100,000 employees, at a certain point, his eyes are bleeding, they're bloodshot, and he's like, why did you put the mop in the server room?
And it's just like, I don't know, sir, and he's like, ah!
And then his head explodes.
alex stein
Because most humans, we are, I hate to admit it, we're all kind of dumb.
I bet if you asked 10 people on the street, psst, psst, psst, 80% probably wouldn't know who Kamala Harris is.
Probably two people would know.
tim pool
Oh, no, I agree.
alex stein
I mean, the majority wouldn't.
So people are just not dialed in.
They're in debt, they have an ex-girlfriend, baby mom, or whatever.
They're not dialed in to what's really happening in the world because they're so distracted.
We're all basically debt slaves just trying to make it.
tim pool
I do, in all seriousness, I do think people like Bill Gates and a bunch of the other wealthy, powerful elites.
I think if you were to talk to them, for one, they're Malthusian, they do think there's too many people, and they will legitimately tell you, I mean I'm sure if you're hanging out at Bilderberg with a lot of these powerful international elites and politicians, they're going to say, look man, think about how stupid the average person is, okay, now realize half of them are stupider than that.
Hmm and they vote and that's like so that's half of that the first half was George Carlin But that's probably what they're thinking and they're thinking we don't want Stupid people to have political power and so what do you get?
Look at what's going on with everything politically in terms of abortion, sterilization, etc.
This is not a detriment to conservatives, who are more resilient, more self-reliant, and protective of their kids.
It's mostly detrimental to urban liberals.
The COVID lockdown policies mostly negatively impacted urban liberals.
All the things we see defund the police.
It's bad for liberals, conservatives, and then the people flee to more conservative areas where they can be more resilient and, you know, resolved.
And then it is the leftists who are suffering tremendously under their own policies that's resulting in them having less kids.
ashley st clair
Yeah, I understand that.
But, you know, people having less kids is bad for society and civilization in general.
tim pool
Yes.
But if conservatives have twice as many kids, which they're probably going to start doing, then problem solved.
alex stein
But we can never have more kids than Venezuela's having.
I mean, they have a culture.
I mean, seriously, they have a culture.
I doubt they're doing a lot of abortion.
So they can just let people come in from other countries.
My biological stepdad, Tucker Carlson, you know, gets a lot of heat for saying the Great Replacement Theory.
But I don't know.
It would be hard to debate that if you really look at immigration policy.
tim pool
This is a really good idea.
Powder PZ says to send 100 clowns to D.C., each with a senator's name and badge.
And whenever they see the senator, they go there and they start dancing.
That's actually a really good idea.
To just have like, you know, someone waits outside and then when they see the senator walking to the car, the clown is behind camera going like... That would be funny.
ian crossland
With kids and, like, the value of having children equating to, like, the species propagating, I wonder if there's... there's got to be a diminishing return.
I think that, like, yeah, you can have four kids.
That's maybe better than having three.
But if you have 19 kids, you don't have time for 19 kids.
A lot of those kids are going to grow up without a parent.
So, like, that's worse.
phil labonte
I don't know that that's the... Well, sort of.
ashley st clair
The siblings help a lot in those situations.
phil labonte
Like, in the past, like, people, like, families have had as many kids as they could in the, like, anticipating some of them dying off.
You can still manage to raise... Yeah, like bees.
tim pool
That's what bees do.
I mean, they have a ton of babies, and then a bunch die, but some survive.
phil labonte
The point is, though, like...
A hundred years ago, families were much larger.
Before any kind of birth control, people weren't like, no, we don't want to have sex because we might have kids.
Like, they were still getting it on.
And you had big families and stuff like that.
tim pool
I want to segue this because overpopulation, families and stuff is a good way to segue into this story.
We have this from TimCast.com.
Protesters chant, send them back, at AOC during NYC press conference.
An estimated 110,000 illegal immigrants have arrived in the city since 2022.
This story is fascinating, and the video is even more fascinating.
Take a look at this.
You gotta hear this.
unidentified
Let's play it.
Listen, listen, listen.
I have two points of consensus here that are very important in getting a solution to this issue.
The first is that there is various consensus here across geography and states on increased federal resources to
cities and municipalities dealing with this issue.
phil labonte
There's consensus all right.
tim pool
Listen, listen, listen.
unidentified
Authorizations.
tim pool
Okay, I have to play that again.
unidentified
To cities and municipalities dealing with this issue.
The second is to allow for work authorizations so that folks in here can get to work and start supporting themselves as soon as possible.
tim pool
AOC is abject evil.
And you can hear these people screaming at her, and what is her response to them?
Don't worry, we're going to give them work rights so that they can displace your wages, lower your wages, displace your jobs.
Have a nice day.
unidentified
They are prevented from getting jobs.
They are prevented from employment.
And that is part of the strain on our public systems.
The faster that folks can access the work that they're asking for legally, the better we can solve this problem.
And the third is extension of temporary protected status for many of the veterans who are the largest population
that are arriving here.
So with that, we thank you all.
tim pool
She is so evil that people are screaming at her and protesting across the board in these cities.
And what does she say?
We're going to spend more federal resources on them.
We're going to give them work rights and protected status over you.
While they're screaming at her, send them back.
ian crossland
Are those her constituents?
tim pool
Yes.
phil labonte
Hopefully, yeah.
ian crossland
So those are the people she's representing?
unidentified
Yep.
alex stein
I mean everybody, they're freaking out about it.
Curtis Lee has been arrested protesting this a bunch.
I mean this is a big deal that there are actual vets that they're kicking out of hotels to put these illegal immigrants in.
That makes no sense.
Why would a vet that went and risked their life in Iraq be less likely to get social services than an immigrant from Venezuela?
ian crossland
I'm sorry to tell you Alex Ocasio-Cortez, not you Alex, I'm happy to tell you.
Yo, you are not here to govern the world, an illegal immigrant.
It's not your job.
Your job is to protect and serve the United States and the citizens of the United States, lady.
Get it straight.
ashley st clair
That's not her job.
The Democrats want us to just be one big globalist homogenous blob.
phil labonte
It's gotta happen slow.
That's why she's an international communist.
Like, even though she's a representative from New York, she's a member of the DSA, and she's an actual communist.
They don't believe in borders.
They don't believe in nations.
They think that if you believe in borders, you're a nationalist, and a nationalist means you're a Nazi.
She's a communist, and that's the reason why she wants to have all the free, open borders.
ian crossland
When you say she doesn't believe in borders, you mean she just envisions them differently?
tim pool
No, no, no.
The Democratic Socialists of America think that there should be no borders at all.
ian crossland
But then you would have no states.
tim pool
Exactly.
ian crossland
No cities.
ashley st clair
That's what communism is.
ian crossland
Ian, Ian, Ian.
phil labonte
Ian, that's what communism is.
Communism is a global thing.
Like when they say real communism has never been tried, it's because there has never been a full global communism.
So when you say, the Soviet Union was communism and they tried communism and it didn't work, then the communist reply is, real communism has never been tried.
And the reason it's never been tried is because it was not global, there was class, there was nations, and as long as that is the situation, it's not real communism.
tim pool
The new world my favorite is when you ask a communist like what do they want to go? I've usually like Star Trek
Yeah, and i'm like, oh you mean post scarcity world where you can telecomputer to just fabricate something from free
energy from from ambient energy And it does bro. I'll tell you this property when we get to
the point where we have replicators And you can literally be like computer ham sandwich and
then it does Sure, we can have some agreements on labor reforms at that
point But spare me this utopian vision while 100 100 million
people over the past, you know, 100 some odd years were murdered in mass
ian crossland
Even then, man, when that replicator's in action, who built the replicator?
What is the replicator's code base?
tim pool
The replicator built the replicator.
ian crossland
So, is the replicator giving you actual water when you say water, or is it giving you something slightly different and it's telling you that it's water?
alex stein
It's gonna be like Delta 9 weed compared to real weed.
ian crossland
That's what I'm talking about.
tim pool
Large, large complicated replicators replicate small replicators.
What they do is there's ambient energy they absorb and then it fuses the particles together to make the appropriate elements and then that's the world of science fiction.
Hey, maybe one day we'll get there.
And if we do, we can have a conversation about labor reforms.
And then we can talk about how everybody just has unlimited food and all that stuff.
And then what's going to happen is the communists are going to say, too many people are eating food, getting fat, and having babies.
And then you know what communists do?
They do what they always do.
ian crossland
The too many people.
ashley st clair
What they're doing right now.
tim pool
Well, communists have a history of just murdering millions upon millions of people.
phil labonte
Oh, we don't have enough food?
Face the wall, please.
tim pool
But it's not even that.
When there's too much food, they're gonna be like, okay, now that food is infinite supply, or near infinite, and people are eating too much of it and they're getting sick, we gotta deal with the, like, they're going to excise the people they deem to be wrong.
This world doesn't exist where they think... I love that meme where someone said, what are you going to do once communism is achieved?
And they said, I think I'll teach people how to do poetry on my farm and maybe do art classes.
And then the response was, your farm?
These people don't get it.
They're first order thinkers and they're going to be in a world for hurt if this ever happens.
ian crossland
The Italian island of 6,000 we talked about before the show.
I'm not going to say on air what I was saying before the show because it's horrific to envision what could happen to a mass of migrants that move into a place where they're not wanted.
If you don't try and stop it ahead of time and you just let it keep happening.
tim pool
It's going to get really, really bad.
ian crossland
It could get so bloody.
You do not want to see that.
tim pool
Let's talk about the southern border and where we're at right now.
New York, Chicago.
These are liberal bastions freaking out.
AOC is getting screamed at.
One of the risks that I fear because they are not properly securing our borders and dealing with the crisis of illegal immigrants flooding into the system is These people who are coming in do not recognize our government.
Governments fall when the people do not have confidence in those governments.
So if you look at, let's go back to when we talked about Lexington and Concord and the American Revolution.
When the Crown said, Massachusetts is in a state of rebellion and here's what you have to do, the militias outside of Boston says, we don't recognize you and we're going to do whatever we want.
Because there was no confidence that they could do anything and there was a willingness to reject them.
Let me put it this way.
If a guy walks up to you wearing a clown suit and says, I'm from clown division, put your hands against the wall, you'd be like, what?
No.
Clown division, hands against- Why would you put your hands against the wall for someone showing the clown division badge and they have a big clown hair and nose and they go, ee ee ee?
You'd be like, bro, is this a joke?
I don't know who you are and you have no authority over me.
You can claim to be the king, you can claim to be the president, that doesn't mean anything, I don't know you.
What happens when you import millions of people every year who do not recognize your government and your laws?
At some point, you're going to have large groups of people in New York who are going to say, I don't know you, dude.
A guy's going to show up, I'm a cop, and they're going to be like, what does that mean to me?
You're in our territory now.
I'll give you a real world example.
It's called Rinkeby in Sweden.
They brought in a whole bunch of Somali migrants in the 90s.
They sent them to these... they basically had them all go to the same places.
There was no regulation and control as to where they were going.
What ends up happening is the Somali refugees and migrants who go to this neighborhood of Rinkeby have kids.
Those kids grow up surrounded by Somali individuals.
They do not see the Swedish people or government as anything to do with them.
When the police come in, they start throwing stones and bricks at the cops saying, get out because they are the authority in that area.
And that happened to me when I went there.
They didn't throw stones or anything.
They started yelling at us and threatening us.
And the cops were like, you probably want to leave.
We'll follow you out.
The simple, I'll give you the simple version.
It's more complicated than that.
But I asked them, like, should we should go?
And they're like, it's gonna get very dangerous.
They could start throwing bricks.
We can't do anything to help you.
And what we were told by the people in the country who are honest is, well, when you have a generation, all these young men who are in their 20s, and they've got no, they don't interact with government.
They don't run for office.
They're not, they don't, it's not possible for them to win office.
The police don't come in these areas.
alex stein
They don't pay taxes.
tim pool
Right.
And so in their minds, Sweden, they are not Swedish.
They do not live in this country.
And the police who come in, it would be no different than if you saw a dude wearing a badge, a clown badge, walked onto your property.
You'd be like, get off my property, you're trespassing.
And they'd be like, no, I'm from clown division.
You'd be like, I don't recognize what that is and don't care.
You are trespassing.
Now, we as Americans recognize what law enforcement is.
The sheriff, the FBI, or otherwise.
But what happens when you have all of these non-citizens who are going to be like, I don't know who you are, what you're doing here.
I do not know the systems of governance in the United States.
I don't know anything about your laws, your politicians, your law enforcement.
Then what happens on the southern border when you have these instances occurring in places like New York and finally in Texas, they say, guys, The federal government is not going to protect our borders.
And so what does Texas do?
Was it Texas, right?
They put up the floating barricades in the river.
phil labonte
Yeah, Texas, yeah.
tim pool
Arizona put up the chipping containers.
The federal government said, you have no right to do this.
And it's technically true as to how the government works.
States don't have the right to deal with international borders.
But they're starting to, which means states have begun to reject, and it's been going on for a while, federal authority.
What happens then when local law enforcement say, we are going to secure the borders by force because we can't contain this anymore?
Here's a scenario.
Texas is being flooded by non-citizens.
Non-citizens who are not going to recognize law enforcement will probably flee from law enforcement, not recognize taxes and laws and try and work under the table.
We are seeing economic repercussions and economic damage and crime and drugs.
Not all of them are bad people, but there are a lot of drugs and child trafficking.
The feds won't do enough about it or they're not doing anything about it.
So what happens then when in Texas, a local town or a county sheriff, they say, we are... You hear the screaming that's going on in Texas.
I'm sorry, going on in New York.
Imagine a scenario in a year from now where the same amount of screaming is happening to a sheriff and they're screaming, I don't care what you do, but stop this now!
And the sheriff says, okay.
We're going to get a bunch of guys to the border, and we're going to defend the border by force if necessary.
We're going to bring cars.
We're going to build barricades.
The federal government says stop, and they say, I don't know who you are, what you're talking about, and they do it anyway.
What happens then when conflict breaks out between the people who are trying to flood through the border and the people who are now sick of it?
This is a path to violence.
What you need in this country is a federal government who says, in order to avoid violence, conflict, and crisis, we have to have procedural, we have to have a process for how we deal with this.
We have to deport people.
We have to create security barricades and not let them just come in.
But they're doing everything it seems in their power to escalate things to the point of social breakdown, violence, chaos, etc.
ashley st clair
Yes, it's gotten so bad in New York City.
Just even in the past few months, you had Lady Gaga's dad speaking out and saying, enough is enough.
They're flowing over.
You can't even really walk down parts of 8th Avenue because they're just housing them there.
Staten Island just had one of the migrant shelters they were using, I believe is an old school.
You can't even go outside there because it smells so bad because of the sewage issue.
It's all backed up.
The neighbors there, they don't even want to leave their house because it smells of sewage and it reeks.
And then you have all these kids who are If I send my kid to a school in New York City, a public school, he has to be vaccinated.
He has to have vaccination records.
These migrant children, they don't.
That's an issue because if there's an outbreak of something like measles, it's spreading to these kids, some of them who can't be vaccinated because they're immunocompromised, they can't get a vaccine, and none of the migrant kids coming in have to be vaccinated at all.
They're not held to the same standards as the children of citizens there, of New Yorkers, of people in this country.
They don't care.
alex stein
Yeah, but you look at a state like Texas, guys, and I know everybody thinks Texas is conservative, but now with Dallas, Austin, San Antonio, and Houston all being liberal now, the Great Replacement Theory, it's... In Texas, we are being affected by immigration probably worse, other than California and Arizona, worse than anybody in the entire country, and it's done on purpose.
A state that was likely conservative in the next ten years, no doubt, will be liberal.
Because of this.
ashley st clair
They hate the rule of law, which is the only thing that separates us from the three world countries.
Law and order, the rule of law.
ian crossland
Yes.
ashley st clair
And they loathe the rule of law.
They want us to just be one globalist.
ian crossland
Who's they?
ashley st clair
The globalists.
ian crossland
Is this like World Economic Forum, Klaus Schwab's buddies and stuff?
Like, I wonder, who do you guys think they are, exactly?
alex stein
Well, it's a conglomerate of Marxists.
ian crossland
Are their names even out there?
alex stein
There's people in the Catholic Church, probably, you know, Israel, probably, you know, there's probably a whole conglomerate of the Trilateral Commission, I'm just saying.
tim pool
Council on Foreign Relations.
alex stein
Flying into Davos.
tim pool
They is really simple.
It refers to establishment, political, and corporate power.
ian crossland
So financial, it's financial stuff.
alex stein
Yeah, I would say the corporations are the most powerful, in my opinion.
ashley st clair
Well, there's also a group of people, especially the Davos types, who, you know, they call themselves futurists, and this is their job, to future-think and think about what it would be like if we were all one global community.
phil labonte
James Lindsay calls it agnostic cult and that's what it is.
They're all essentially, it's essentially a religion and they are looking for a one-world government and when you say they I'm talking about Marxists, right?
Actually neo-Marxists, right?
Because the economic school of Marxism was proven to not work in the, you know, with the fall of the Soviet Union and all of the countries that have tried socialism.
And so Neo-Marxism is a new approach to Marxism and you can take all of the intersectional stuff that you've got and that is all different, like, species of Marxism.
And they all have the same essential goal.
alex stein
Let me take it to an even weirder spot.
This is how weird I am, Ian.
I believe it's actually satanic and I think it comes out of the Bible and it's a Genesis chapter 11 verse 9 and if you flip that it's weird that it's 9-11 but in that it talks about the Tower of Babel and and that Nimrod wanted to build a kingdom to heaven to go kill God and what God did is he made all the tribes and make it where they can communicate like you know and so everybody went out the winter you know separate ways so what they're doing now these people that worship the devil they want to invert everything in the Bible so what they're trying to do is they're trying to reverse engineer Nimrod's plan And build a one world order, so we're under one rule, one currency, one system.
So it's actually satanic.
I know that sounds crazy.
phil labonte
You don't have to believe in devils to agree with him, because I don't believe in, like, supernatural stuff, but I still think that he's right, because I don't believe it, but they do.
tim pool
These people believe these weird superstitions.
And I don't know if all of them do.
alex stein
I know that Nancy Pelosi said she's a reptilian this week.
unidentified
What?
She did?
alex stein
Yeah, type it in!
unidentified
Type it in!
alex stein
Oh my gosh, she said it this week!
She said, I'm cold-blooded and I'm reptilian.
I mean, I don't really think she's a freaking reptile, but something is weird.
phil labonte
I mean... The point that he's making is that the Gnostic religion has been around since before, like, Christianity.
tim pool
And before... I can't Google it because it says, it looks like the results below are changing quickly.
Check the source.
Is it a trusted topic?
alex stein
Well, she said it on MSNBC.
I forget whose show she was on.
She just said it.
Type it on Twitter.
Because it's probably going to give you a bunch of fake stuff, but she just said it this week.
Type in Pelosi Reptilian.
But no, I do think it's demonic or satanic.
I know that sounds weird, but there's something to it.
And whether you believe in it or not.
tim pool
Like Phil said, these people are evil.
Let's play it.
Nancy Pelosi.
unidentified
She's really, really committed to that.
phil labonte
It's really sad.
unidentified
No, I'm not a poor baby.
alex stein
I'm more reptilian and cold-blooded.
unidentified
And Coen will win the election.
Uh, we're gonna take a short break.
alex stein
I want to talk to you more about that.
What was that?
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
unidentified
CIA agent!
We gotta take a break!
tim pool
Calm down, calm down.
What is she referring to?
Let me play it again.
unidentified
And Coen will win the election.
And Coen will win the election.
tim pool
What is she saying?
phil labonte
Go in and win the election?
unidentified
No, I'm not a poor baby.
alex stein
I'm more reptilian and cold-blooded.
unidentified
Go in and win the election.
We're going to take a short break.
I want to talk to you more about President Biden and some other things.
tim pool
I guess it's impossible to know what, with only 13 seconds, what is she referring to in the context of being reptilian and cold-blooded?
She's saying she's like ruthless and long?
ian crossland
Yeah, she's going to go get it like a lizard.
And probably she saw the memes of her looking like a lizard meme and stuff.
phil labonte
I'm not as confident in that part.
ashley st clair
I don't think she saw the meme.
alex stein
Did we ever figure out if her husband is a homosexual?
Did we ever figure that out?
ian crossland
It's still undetermined, I think.
alex stein
And it's cool if he is.
Yeah, it'd be very cool if he is.
tim pool
I wish there was more context so I could understand why she's saying this.
I'm assuming she's saying, like, I'm ruthless.
ian crossland
Yes.
That was what I got out of it.
unidentified
But, like, we don't know... Let me see if, uh... Yeah, these junk food... These junk food clubs have to go.
You know, of course she was gonna say that, but... Okay, let's try it again.
alex stein
You know, of course she was gonna say that, but... Poor baby.
unidentified
Yeah, she's really, really committed to that.
It's really sad.
No, I'm not a poor baby.
alex stein
I'm more reptilian.
tim pool
I don't understand what she's trying to say, to be honest.
ian crossland
They're being facetious from the beginning.
tim pool
No, I get that, but I don't understand.
It's like, oh, she's a poor baby.
No, I'm reptilian.
I'm like, I don't know what that turn of phrase is supposed to be.
ian crossland
Anderson's probably saying that other people were saying, oh, Nancy's a poor baby.
And then Nancy's like, ha ha ha, no, I'm not.
I'm a lizard that I'm going to go just take the election.
That's my guess.
tim pool
Okay.
ian crossland
But we need more context to understand.
alex stein
No, we don't.
She's a lizard, and it's pretty good programming, and... Fact check!
unidentified
Hold on, hold on.
tim pool
Nancy Pelosi admits she is a reptilian and that she's cold-blooded.
phil labonte
Fact.
tim pool
Nancy Pelosi did say the quote, I am more reptilian and cold-blooded.
alex stein
And she said it on a national show, on the record.
tim pool
That's what the press does.
Yeah, so if she said it, it's true, right?
Well, there you go.
She's a lizard.
alex stein
It's a revelation of the method, Tim.
ian crossland
She's either a lizard or she's a liar.
tim pool
Where does the reptilian thing come from?
Like, why do people think that?
alex stein
Oh, no, this is actually a really good one.
So David Icke was one of the guys that kind of founded this, and it goes back to, like, the Queen's bloodlines.
They supposedly can trace back to Muhammad, I don't know if you know this, and Jesus, supposedly.
So it's like, they think, and it kind of comes out of the Bible, too.
There's all this weird mix of, like, There's a third of the angels casted out of heaven, and these were like the Nephilim, and then the angels slept with these giants, and then we're kind of the retarded offspring of it, so there's all this kind of whimsical stuff where at some point angels made it with the animals here, and that there might be bloodlines like we have, and there might be bloodlines where these angels made it with the animals and they became human, so... You're saying that the lizard people are Nephilim?
Kind of, like they're in that vibe.
Whatever the Nephilim vibe, it kind of comes from that time of the... That's where a lot of it comes from.
The early origins of existence.
I mean, I'm not saying this is true, but that's what they say.
And there's something weird, though, how the Queen and Prince Philip, how they live for forever.
I mean, obviously, they have the best medical doctors, but there's something weird about bloodlines.
unidentified
I don't know.
alex stein
About bloodlines!
I don't know that they're losers.
tim pool
I mean, look, I was just reading this list of the oldest people, and some lady was 120 years old, and she was like a nobody in the middle of nowhere.
alex stein
Well, yeah, I'm saying some people live a long time, but it's just weird that these billionaires live for a long time.
tim pool
Well, it's not, I mean, you can say it's weird in that, like, not suspicious, it's weird that they do, but it's obvious what they're doing.
Like, don't they do the, what are they called, Blood Boys?
alex stein
Blood Boys.
tim pool
There's, like, stem cell treatment stuff that people, I've heard stories of, like, these super rich people who, well, there's that one millionaire guy.
alex stein
Anti-Asian guy.
tim pool
Yeah, it was like having his son's blood transfused into his body or whatever to be younger and it's like... Yeah, but you're not gonna get much more longevity out of these things anyways.
ashley st clair
I mean, you might live a little longer because they have access to better things, but they're really not increasing their longevity significantly.
tim pool
They don't want to die.
And part of the transhumanist stuff is being able to put your mind in a machine so you can live forever.
ashley st clair
They're obsessed with living forever in longevity.
ian crossland
There's a part of the reptilian brain called the basal ganglia of the reptilian complex that humans also have, a basal ganglia.
So at some point in our evolution, we probably had only come that far.
And I think what happened, there's this interesting theory from this book Ishmael that I got.
Oh, that book. A long time ago. Yeah, it's pretty cool. It's a talking gorilla. Yeah, we know all about it
Where after something happened, but a huge segment of humanity went north
They migrated great migration a lot of people from the equatorial
Maybe it was the Great Flood something but they went north they could no longer grow crops
tim pool
I gotta pause you right there.
See, the issue is we used to believe in what was called out-of-Africa theory, but I think it's been debunked already.
alex stein
What, Mesopotamia?
That everything came out of Mesopotamia?
ian crossland
It's tough to tell.
It's like life recovered in Mesopotamia, and I think they used to think that's where it began, but that's where it recovered after the flood.
They went to like Turkey.
alex stein
I think there's definitely a flood.
ian crossland
Oh yeah, 13-12,800 years ago, there's tons of evidence.
alex stein
Like Rockwall, there's a place right outside of Dallas, it's called Rockwall, and it's named because these guys were digging, you know, whatever, a hundred years ago, and they found these huge walls that were deep underground that make no sense, and you can't dig it.
ian crossland
Really?
alex stein
Yeah, because it's type in Rockwall, Texas, and because they're so deep underground, like, they think that it was maybe an old fort, so there is so, and then what is it?
What is the Tobekli?
tim pool
Tobekli Tepe.
alex stein
Yeah, is what?
That doesn't even, the timeline doesn't even make sense.
serge du preez
Yeah, 15,000 years.
alex stein
Yeah, so.
ian crossland
That's where they went, that's where they recovered to after the flood.
They went to Gobekli Tepe, or they built it after the flood, but it looked like it was like an ancient temple that they all, all these societies went and kind of congregated at.
My theory is that these people that went north after this cataclysm couldn't grow crops, so they had to hunt.
Constantly.
All they did was hunt.
They hunt, killed, so they developed a lizard-like behavior.
And then their skin got lighter and lighter, and then eventually they came back south as these marauding, bloodthirsty conquistadors, murdering, colonizing Europe.
They took over, they eventually became the Romans.
So this bloodthirsty behavior, as opposed to eating crops.
The bloodthirsty behavior is the lizard.
tim pool
Oh wow, look at this picture.
No joke, a huge wall was buried.
And so there is quite literally a wall.
alex stein
A huge wall.
tim pool
Buried in Texas.
alex stein
They can't even dig it up.
It's so big.
tim pool
Wow, that's really big.
ian crossland
It is.
alex stein
It's very big, and they have no idea what it's from.
There's no evidence.
They don't even know what the hell.
So they just named the city Rockwall.
tim pool
So again, look at this photo here.
You can see they're excavating it, and it's a wall, man.
It's a big wall.
alex stein
Oh, I mean... It's Mud Flood, bro.
tim pool
You know about Mud Flood.
alex stein
Oh, I mean, I'm just saying there's something weird.
I mean, we probably did have a flood.
tim pool
So, for those that aren't familiar, I'll probably be getting it wrong,
but the general idea, which obviously I find silly, but there are people who believe
that there was a massive ancient civilization, a flood happened, wiping everybody out,
and mud and sediment and everything shifted around, burying large components of this ancient civilization.
And we've begun to discover some of it.
The deeper conspiracy is that we've not built these buildings, we've discovered them.
And that's why, it is really weird.
You'll see buildings in some cities where there's clearly a door halfway in the ground.
alex stein
You've seen those?
tim pool
Right, and I'm like, I don't know why they built that building that way.
I don't think it means that a mud flood happened and buried the building.
It's probably more likely that, like Chicago, they lifted the city up.
Things like that happen.
alex stein
Well, there is weird stuff, too.
If you look at all the old world's fairs, they used to be able to build these beautiful buildings with no power tools, with no modern technology, and then they would just destroy it, you know, shortly thereafter, or it got burnt in a fire.
So, I think there's a great fire in Chicago, a great fire in San Francisco.
A lot of these classic cities, Tim, they had huge fires around, like, 20s or 30s.
So we don't even know their own history.
So there's something we I'll just say this.
I'm a full-blown conspiracy theorist.
You don't need to be that but I think our history is not the truth.
unidentified
It's history.
tim pool
Hold on.
History is not true.
That's that's end of story.
alex stein
Yeah, end of story.
tim pool
That's like look at modern news today.
We know how it's manipulated.
alex stein
Exactly.
tim pool
And so we try our best to piece together as much of history as we can while knowing that it's written by the victors.
ian crossland
I just I don't believe any of the religions because of it.
I can't believe any of those texts because it's all like less credible than CNN.
ashley st clair
What's interesting, though, is there's so many different religions that have very comparable stories.
Like, so many different religions have a story of the flood or Noah and the ark.
So I find that fascinating.
tim pool
What if, you know, when the flood happened, it was actually, you know, when was the Sphinx underwater or whatever?
serge du preez
It was like 10,000 years ago?
unidentified
12,000 years ago?
serge du preez
It was 12,000 BC, you're saying?
tim pool
They said 12,800 years ago.
ago. I imagine what it was 12,000 BC you're saying?
serge du preez
They said 12,800 years ago. It's like that's where this whole Gobekli Tepe
ian crossland
came in, all this water damage. Oh interesting.
Yeah, there's lots of erosion damage on the side of the space.
tim pool
Right, so you have this ancient civilization with wonderful technology, the Earth starts flooding, and all the wealthy, powerful elites are like, we out!
And they just leave Earth when they're gone, and all the poor, yokel, working-class rednecks get left behind where most die, and those who survive start to rebuild, and here we are today.
ian crossland
But I think the real elites told people they were gods, and like Nephilim, and they still had ancient tech, they had hot air balloons and hang gliders and shit.
tim pool
Right, but that's an entirely different conspiracy theory.
I'm just saying there's a potential conspiracy theory, or I'm saying my conspiracy theory that I'm bringing up right now has nothing to do with any of that, I'm just saying there's an advanced civilization, the ultra-rich, it wasn't Noah, some humble guy, like, I'm gonna build an ark, it was a super, it was a billionaire social media mogul who was like, I'm building a starship, and then he did, and then when the flood happened, they left, Everyone else gets wiped out, those who survived the water world start to rebuild, and here we are.
ian crossland
Dude, they used to think the Sphinx was like 3,500 years old.
And now they think it's like 15,000 years old.
ashley st clair
It changes all the time.
ian crossland
By the way, we were off a little bit.
tim pool
I think the argument that they carved a different head into it makes a lot of sense.
ian crossland
Yep, one of the pharaohs came in to face the lion.
It used to be an actual cat.
tim pool
Or a dog, Anubis or whatever.
And then they cut the head down to really small to be the pharaoh instead.
Because the head doesn't fit the body size.
ian crossland
No, it's all receded.
Man, it was a beautiful lion.
I bet carved out of the mountain.
tim pool
You know, I think the sad reality is that we want to believe these things because it gives us mystery and lore and we can hope that there's something crazy that might happen, but it's just not.
ashley st clair
Yeah, we're incapable of living without myth.
ian crossland
I was thinking about going back to like the 800 BC when the Romans were just tribes, and like 600 BC, and if you could go back to that period and teleport around place to place, time to time, and explore, that's why I want to live, is to be able to do that.
And I know that with advanced technology, I think we're going to be able to simulate that kind of experience where you're actually there with the Romans See, the men are always thinking about the Roman Empire.
alex stein
That's true, though.
tim pool
That was a meme, right?
ashley st clair
Yeah, it's a trend to ask a guy, how often do you think about the Roman Empire?
And men are obsessed with the Roman Empire, rightfully so, in my opinion.
phil labonte
Every day, because I follow stoic accounts.
tim pool
Well, I wouldn't say every day, but a couple times a week at minimum.
ashley st clair
See, that's incredible to me.
tim pool
Well, because from the male perspective, women are basically just sitting around all giggling with each other about their hair, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And men are all talking about like, ooh, ancient Rome.
ian crossland
All roads lead to Rome.
tim pool
It's like equally silly, you know what I mean?
alex stein
Yeah.
ian crossland
It's funny with the serration.
alex stein
It's funny, Ian, you said something about advanced tech, but I think it's very easily provable.
I mean, you guys might argue with me on this.
I think we're getting dumber really fast because if you look at just like the stonework that they did in New York City not that long ago, like the gargoyles on the corners of buildings.
tim pool
It's amazing.
alex stein
We can't even recreate that today with all the technology we have.
tim pool
We can't make gargoyles?
alex stein
What do you mean?
No, they can't recreate a lot of the classic gargoyles and classic, like, whatever stonework they've done.
Oh, come on, dude.
ashley st clair
They can, they just don't want to.
tim pool
Google it.
alex stein
I'm telling you, there's like the pyramids.
We can't build the pyramids today.
They don't know how to build the pyramids.
tim pool
Yes, we can.
alex stein
Google if we can build the pyramids today.
tim pool
How big is the Burj Dubai?
alex stein
Tim, we cannot build the pyramids today.
Fact.
unidentified
Google it!
alex stein
Google it!
The way they build these pyramids, we cannot- They tried it!
tim pool
They tried it!
I watched a video where a middle-aged fat dude was moving multi-ton stones.
alex stein
He would dig a hole- Using through sound or whatever?
tim pool
No, he would dig a hole under a portion of it, and then he would start rocking it until it flipped itself over, and he was like, I can move it, and he started putting these things together.
It was like ancient aliens or whatever.
We can build a pyramid, come on.
alex stein
We cannot recreate- Have you been to the Luxor?
ian crossland
According to Wikipedia, yes.
Yes, it is technically possible.
tim pool
Have you been to Beth's?
Have you been to Beth's Pro Shop?
alex stein
What does the Wikipedia say?
ian crossland
How is it technically possible?
alex stein
They don't even understand how they built it now.
unidentified
It says!
alex stein
No, it's because they don't know what they used.
They don't know what they used to build them back then, so how could we redo it?
unidentified
Hold up, Serge.
Debunked.
Debunked.
alex stein
Yeah, that's what you're going to say.
serge du preez
I've seen this in real life too, so.
alex stein
Yeah, that's not debunked!
unidentified
I've been inside of it.
ashley st clair
No, but I think what you're saying is we can't do it in the same way.
alex stein
We cannot do it in the same way.
These guys are smarter than us.
Even though they're Freemasons or whatever, we're not as talented as we are today.
We used to be smarter.
tim pool
That's a ridiculous prospect.
That's a true statement!
I don't care.
We cannot recreate the pyramid.
I watched a video where they used a stream of water to slice a screwdriver in half.
I'm pretty sure we can easily cut stone and stack it up.
alex stein
Nope.
tim pool
The Burj Dubai!
alex stein
We can't, we can't, we can't.
tim pool
Just like we can't go, we can't go to Antarctica.
alex stein
Fact check me, chat!
Fact check me, we can't recreate the pyramids.
phil labonte
Look, you're, he's actually right.
We can't do it the same way they did because we can't enslave that many people.
ian crossland
We don't really know how they did it.
alex stein
We have no idea how they did it, Tim!
ashley st clair
But also, I don't know how this means that we're dumber now.
Like, didn't the Egyptians also think that the Earth is flat?
alex stein
Yeah, they probably did.
tim pool
No, they never did.
ashley st clair
Oh, did they not?
tim pool
That is not true!
It was Eratosthenes, I believe, who correctly calculated the circumference of the Earth by comparing different shadows.
alex stein
Sticks and shadows, but that actually works for the localized sun as well.
ian crossland
Last night, Katie Faust was saying, or actually we were just talking, it came up that a lot of our architectural genius is being placed into video games now.
A lot of male architecture.
Mind space is being put into video games, and you're building these digital realities, so building gargoyles aren't being created.
ashley st clair
Yeah, free labor, child labor on Roblox.
tim pool
Oh, Roblox, dude.
unidentified
What a journey.
alex stein
What is this saying, Tim?
tim pool
A typical...
My show idea, and I've mentioned it on the show, and I pitch- Me go to Antarctica.
alex stein
We have to do it, everybody's been telling me.
tim pool
Absolutely, absolutely.
ian crossland
Let's do it.
tim pool
But my show idea was, it takes place in the last city, and the people who live there call it the last city, and no one really knows why human civilization collapsed, but all other cities on earth are barren, empty wastelands of decay, ruin, cars just falling apart.
It's like a post-apocalyptic scene.
And this city has grown to a few million people with technology somewhat comparable but a little bit better than ours.
And they have scouts going out doing missions to expand the territory of the city and reclaim more farmland and things like this.
And then one day they come across weird tall slender beings in like white suits with like white helmets.
And they get into a fight and these advanced beings like just energy blast them.
And then what happens is, these guys in Expedition are like, body cam filming it, it's being transmitted back, and they're like, these are aliens or something, and they must be what wiped out human civilization, they've come back to kill us.
And then it turns out, this is my show idea, spoiler alert, if the show ever gets made, it'll be ruined for you.
The revelation is, At some point, people started migrating to the metaverse because you can connect your brain in and eat filet mignon every night if you want.
Live forever.
You don't live forever.
alex stein
But like thousands of years compared to 70 on Earth.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, no.
ian crossland
Expand time.
tim pool
Your mind moves faster or whatever.
So when you're plugged into the metaverse, you can virtual reality, you can experience anything you want.
So there's literally no reason to leave.
So they all end up living in pods underground in these facilities where they experience life much like ours, but in base reality, they never leave the pod.
And so the people who are the last city don't know what happened because news never stopped.
Information as to why humans migrated persists, but it persisted into the metaverse.
For humans who are outside of that system and don't have access to it, they don't have the historical records.
It just one day disappeared.
So you've got mountain people, trailer park people, these types, uncontacted tribes, who are outside of the system and will never integrate with it, and then the people they encounter in these suits, every so often, metaverse people do have to go out to maintain the machines they live in.
I genuinely believe we are inching towards living in the pod and eating the bugs, but it's not how people understand.
You're gonna come home from work or whatever it is you have to do.
Your house is going to be akin to a pod outside with maybe like a plastic shield over it just for like nature protection so you don't die from a bear attack.
You're gonna lay down in your pod and then you're gonna go to sleep and then instantly wake up inside your mansion.
You're going to walk to your fridge, where you're going to pull out a whole cheesecake and just shove the whole thing in your mouth and be like, so good.
In the pod, you've got cockroach slime going into your feeding tube or whatever, into your neck port, and you're not going to care because your brain is being stimulated in the metaverse.
alex stein
It's even worse, Tim.
Alex Jones talks about this, and you can actually pull this up.
They want to have it, when you go to the metaverse, that you can ejaculate 5,000 times a day.
That's what they think that they would be doing in the metaverse.
unidentified
Hold on.
tim pool
I think if we did a show exploring a future where people in the metaverse, you would have a portion where it's like, oh, that's a sex club.
And it's just people staying there going like, Yeah, ejaculating.
ian crossland
Well, they'd be orgasming, but only ejaculate for so long.
tim pool
People would be wanting dopamine releases in other ways.
The idea that not all humans are perpetually in this state of trying to achieve sexual activity says to me that there would be people who do.
But most people would stimulate themselves through dopamine through the traditional means, meaning guys would go into their own micro-universes where they're kings, saving the children from a fire, or they would make themselves superheroes so they can constantly get that masculine satisfaction.
It's not, I do not think it's gonna be a bunch of guys being like, I'm gonna go and do this.
They would.
Guys would do this a lot.
alex stein
Me?
tim pool
But I would say 99% of their time is going to be spent in a fictional reality where they're the superhero doing great things and everyone loves them for having done it.
ashley st clair
In the metaverse, you think that's what men would spend their time doing?
alex stein
I would be the quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys.
unidentified
They're going to be Alexander the Great.
tim pool
And they're going to be Caesar at the Rubicon.
Was it Caesar at the Rubicon?
Who was at the Rubicon?
ian crossland
Yeah, Caesar crossed the Rubicon.
ashley st clair
Might be recreating the Roman Empire.
tim pool
Exactly.
Men are going to be like, you know what feels the best?
I gotta tell you.
Yes, guys would love to do the weird, creepy, you know, fetish stuff, but I'd be willing to bet more guys would want to be catching the final touchdown pass at the Super Bowl and 60,000 people screaming and they're just like, yeah!
ian crossland
Yeah, but then all you want to do is bang after that.
alex stein
Yeah, after that!
ian crossland
Switch channels.
tim pool
And then hold on, and then all the cheerleaders run up and it's like, yeah!
alex stein
On the field!
This is just kind of, to what you're saying though, and this is actually Ian made a point about it, and it's funny that I'm referencing Jake and Logan Paul, but you're talking about the sex stuff.
Jake Paul is actually, I just saw this clip today, he was on a podcast with his brother and he made a good point.
He's like, the reason why this Dylan Danis stuff, you guys have seen Dylan Danis.
unidentified
Yep, that was it.
alex stein
So Dylan Dannis is supposed to fight Jake Paul, and Jake Paul... No, no, Logan.
Excuse me, fight Logan.
This is Jake that said the same, and I get him confused, but Dylan Dannis is fighting Logan.
Logan Paul is engaged to a girl named Nina Agdal.
She's been in Hollywood for about 10 years, maybe 12 years.
She has a picture, Tim, with every A, B, C, D, and E list celebrity that's ever even been in Hollywood.
I mean, she probably has a picture with a thousand different celebrities.
Dylan Dannis has been posting these pictures, like, insinuating that she's sleeping with all these people.
And it's super viral.
I mean, he's gained about a million followers since he's been doing this.
And Jake, his brother, was talking to Logan about why it's so successful or why Dylan's resonating so much with people.
It's because men are scared of women.
Men are constantly getting rejected by women.
They're constantly addicted to porn.
They have impotency problems.
So it's like the sexual nature of men, we're almost becoming submissive to women in a weird way.
And that's why they like this, because they like seeing a woman get dunked on.
tim pool
I disagree.
I think that the majority of men are submissive to women, and that's why, when you look at the dating statistics of Tinder, Bumblebee, or I'm sorry, Bumble, whatever, is that women choose the top tier of men, and men will go for, like, the bell curve and male perspective for attractiveness is a standard bell curve, and for women it's a massive spike towards the high end of attractiveness.
And so if you look at how other primate families do it, one powerful chimp for instance beats the crap out of the other chimps and then gets all the women.
So if we're looking at modern society, I am not surprised to see that there is, you know, a majority of men who are... Anti-women?
No, are unable to properly woo a woman, and then there's a small percentage of guys who are getting all the women.
That's like baser instinct.
phil labonte
The small percentage of guys that are getting all the women, they don't have to woo.
Like if you're talking about the dudes that are like, there's no wooing.
It's like if you're one of the top Sliding the DMs.
alex stein
Yeah, they slided my DMs.
Please do it.
Sliding my DMs right now.
tim pool
Like these super ripped Chad guys are like, I'm insatiable and I want you too.
alex stein
Well, that's why you never cyber sex with anybody on the internet.
Cause I guarantee it's a guy.
I heard that's what Andrew Tate was doing.
Yeah, he admitted it!
See, and this is the thing for all the Andrew Tate bros, I think it's, you know, some of the stuff that he, you know, I agree with.
But he literally, there's a videotape of him saying, I would go on these dumb girls and I would be talking to the guys and they would give me all their money.
And they asked him, like, did you feel bad?
He's like, no.
And I'm like, dude, that's disgusting.
First of all, you're cybersexing with dudes, and then you don't feel guilty at all that you're taking all this money under false pretenses that you're going to hang out with them, that you're going to see them, or that you have feelings for them.
So, you know, Andrew Tate, I'm not calling him necessarily a bad guy, but that is not a good thing to do.
ian crossland
I'd love to see the chat history on some of those.
alex stein
Oh, they're disgusting.
ian crossland
Like, what was he typing to another man?
alex stein
You know he was typing the nastiest stuff.
unidentified
Because he said it.
alex stein
He said that his brain was better at being perverted than the girls, so you know it's nasty.
tim pool
Well, because guys are more.
I mean, that's just the way it is.
But I actually am more interested in talking about, you know, like, AI and stuff than just what guys want to do in their free time.
So, you know, anyway.
ian crossland
A lot of it's connected.
alex stein
Well, it is, yeah.
A lot of it is connected.
ian crossland
Digital sex, man, that's...
tim pool
So I was talking about this the other day.
The place that Mid Journey is at right now is just insane.
I posted, I typed in on the show Nancy Pelosi shaking hands with Vladimir Putin and it made this photo of Putin smiling and Nancy Pelosi smiling and there's like a demonic face on the wall and I'm like, how did it know to do this?
How did it know to make it like creepy and evil looking?
It just knew.
And people have started taking these photos and turning them into videos through AI, making like three to five second videos.
In a year, we're gonna be getting five to 10 minute videos.
And it's gonna be really, it's gonna be fantastic quality video.
And then in a year or two, we're gonna be at the point where you're gonna have half an hour to hour like videos with speech.
Like all the components already exist.
ChatGPT is there.
You can create conversations.
All you have to do, you can do this right now with ChatGPT, when they started doing what's called prompt injection, where to break the rules, they said, they made this huge long text of, a long list of text, where it was like, from now on, you respond to this, you behave this way, you answer these things, and it cracked it, it cracked ChatGPT, so that it started communicating like something else.
So I explored this further, and I started giving it personnel, I was like, from now on, you are Donald Trump.
And it would start answering my questions as if it was Trump.
Because of all of Trump's speech and all of his text and his mannerisms are online and in the machine.
So that means you could go in a video game, you could create a 3D avatar of Donald Trump, high quality 4K like any video game we have today, and then plug chat GPT into it and say, hello, Mr. President.
It'll be like, hello, how's it going?
And it'll actually be like a facsimile Trump having a conversation with you.
You can do this for any character and it can happen right now.
All that needs to happen right now is the tedious effort of a game developer being like, I'm going to plug A and B together.
Because all the components already exist.
When that happens, I gotta tell you, you're talking about this freaky, like guys want to do weird stuff on the internet, they will do weird stuff in these games, but if you can, if you get home from working at your burger joint, and you can turn the game on, where you're the football star catching the touchdown pass to win the Super Bowl, People are going to create characters who worship them, who say everything they want to say.
They're going to get their dopamine released from fake people who guarantee it to them.
It is like the rat in the experiment with the electrodent's brain hitting the dopamine button over and over and over again.
alex stein
Yeah, I do think that is going to happen, but I think it's going to be a little farther off than we think, because there's a thing called the uncanny valley, where even all of the biggest, and I may have said this on the show before, all the biggest telecommunication companies, they spend billions of dollars in research and development to create artificial intelligence, so when you call a call center, you think you're talking to a human.
And human beings, when they do this test, Tim, we always figure out we're talking to a robot.
Some people figure it out.
tim pool
It's just not good enough.
alex stein
It's just not good enough, yeah, I know.
tim pool
And actually, there's a website, I think it's called... What was it called?
Is it called Bot?
It's not called Bot or Not.
alex stein
But everybody figures it out usually within like less than a minute.
Human or Not.
Yeah, Human or Not.
tim pool
So, I'm sorry, you can't figure this one out.
ian crossland
That's cool.
alex stein
Let's see.
tim pool
Oh, it's over.
The experiment has ended.
So, the issue is...
You think you're- Do you get to talk to it?
You are randomly placed into a chat with another person.
alex stein
Okay.
tim pool
And you are both given a certain amount of time to respond to each other.
After a certain amount of time, it asks you, was the person you're talking to a human or a bot?
And I don't know what their results are, but I can tell you this, I tricked a whole lot of people.
alex stein
You did?
tim pool
And they thought they were talking to a bot, and they were talking to me, who was intentionally manipulating them.
Like, it's really obvious to make it seem like you're a bot and get them to pick the wrong answer.
alex stein
And there were sometimes where- Well, you were doing an inside job because you were playing a human acting like a bot.
tim pool
That's the point of it.
I know, but- You're trying to deceive the other person to see what they choose.
alex stein
But they're trying to make robots sound like humans.
tim pool
Right, and so that's a component of what these things do.
alex stein
I think it'd be harder for a robot to actually sound like a human than it would be for a human to sound like a robot.
tim pool
Humans can create a facsimile of a robot very easily, and robots are having a hard time right now emulating humans properly.
But we are not that far off.
alex stein
Yeah, I agree.
tim pool
So there was a... I called one of the services that I use.
Everyone has some subscription service.
And the person who answered was like, Hi, thanks for calling.
This is customer service.
How can I help you?
And I said, human being.
Hey, I can answer your questions.
Just give me a chance.
I was like, human being.
Okay, well, would you like to ask a question?
And then I went for the standard.
There's one thing you say if you're tired of talking to the machine.
Now, this wasn't a text prompt like AI chat language thing, but it's just so obvious.
Do you know that there are two words you can say that will instantly get the robot to hang up and switch to a human?
alex stein
Donald Trump.
tim pool
No.
ian crossland
Operator.
tim pool
Nope, that's absolutely not.
ian crossland
That's why I just say it over and over.
tim pool
Operator.
I can say two words instantly and get an operator.
Any guess?
ashley st clair
No.
tim pool
Any guess?
Two words?
phil labonte
No.
tim pool
Two words?
ashley st clair
I just violently tapped the zero.
ian crossland
It's easy.
unidentified
Zero.
tim pool
Give this a try.
The next time you're on with a robot, and many of you will notice, you'll say, human being!
It'll go, if you'd like a question answered, try asking me!
And you'll be like, representative!
I can answer your question.
Oh, I tell you what.
You say one thing.
Fuck you.
ian crossland
Is it the tone?
alex stein
And that will?
tim pool
Instantly goes, I hear that you're angry.
I'll be getting a representative for you.
ian crossland
I wonder if it's the tone, if it can measure your tone.
tim pool
I can't say that every single system does this.
I have been hung up on before.
You know, and it was just like, I'm sorry I can't help you.
Goodbye.
And hangs up.
ashley st clair
That's what I usually get.
tim pool
But I would say 99% of the time I was on the phone with, I think it was United.
And they cancelled, they switched me off my first class ticket to a coach garbage seat on a different flight without my permission at 4 in the morning.
So I showed up to the wrong gate, confused.
I'm like, what's happening?
And they're like, we've decided unilaterally to, even though you paid first class, to move you to coach on a different plane to a different city.
And I'm like, what?
But your ultimate destination remains the same, so it's fine.
So I called, and I get the, hi, thanks for calling, can I help?
And I went, fuck you.
Transferring to a representative, instantly.
ashley st clair
Automated customer service should be legal.
alex stein
That's a life hack.
ian crossland
I gotta ask you guys.
tim pool
Yeah, but then you're just like...
Like, we'll be getting to you in 17 hours.
ian crossland
Yeah.
On AI and relationships, when you're in a v- because right now I got a video game called Baldur's Gate 3, I just got it, and in the game, you can- one of your companions, you can kind of hook up with one of your companions.
One of them?
Yeah, we get to hook up with all of them, really.
tim pool
The people- The gaggle of- Okay, hold on, hold on.
Let me just add this before- The orgy commences- I have to do this, I have to do this.
alex stein
I'm very interested, please give- Baldur's Gate is awesome.
tim pool
It's this new game that came out.
It's, like, highly rated, 10 out of 10 across the board.
But because they wanted it to be that you can be any identity or sexuality you want, because it's you, every character has to have a romance path, which means... Like, if you play as a dude, and I'm like, bro, I'm just like a rogue street pickpocketer that's trying to make my way through this crazy world, and all these dudes that are coming to help fight the bad guy keep trying to have sex with me, and I'm like, guys, stop!
alex stein
The guys are trying to have sex with you on the show?
tim pool
The guys, the women, the bears, you name it!
ian crossland
They throw it at you.
And I don't know if you can have multiple partners, but that's not the point.
The point was, you can.
tim pool
I'm pretty sure yes.
ian crossland
When it becomes hyper-realistic, and you're in an AI environment, and it's a woman, and you're talking to her, and she's like, I want to have sex with you tonight.
Is that cheating on your wife?
alex stein
Yeah, see this is a great area.
tim pool
No, you're just gross.
Have you guys seen the episode of Black Mirror where the two bros from college get the new neural video game and then they start having sex with each other?
Because like, they'll play a fighting game and one guy would choose the Asian martial artist, the other guy would choose the Asian lady.
So when these two adult black men go into the video game, and everything's super realistic and they can feel everything, they just for some reason start having sex instead.
Which, I'm curious as to why the game programmers put that in the game as a capability, but sure, nobody... I'm sorry dude, if you made a fighting game, and then you're like, but you can also go in there and have sex, I'm pretty sure people would not be fighting each other in that game.
But my point is just that...
That's the premise of the episode, that his wife finds out, and it is cheating.
And so the agreement they have is that once per year, he's allowed to go bang his bro,
and then she takes off her ring and goes and has a fling.
ian crossland
Oh, well, it kind of it makes me think about Christianity and Judaism.
Kind of a differential is that, I think someone was talking about this, maybe it was Jordan
last night, Jordan Peterson, but that was known as Dennis Prager, about Christianity
is a lot about your thoughts and policing your mind and controlling your thoughts that
thinking of another woman is like is adultery.
Whereas Judaism is more about your actions and doesn't really matter so much about what you're thinking.
If you behave in a certain way, then you're living to God's standards.
tim pool
Look, I'll just put it this way.
ian crossland
And I wonder if AI is a behavior or if it's just in your mind.
tim pool
I will say.
Yes.
If you are going into a Neuralink virtual space to bang other women, you're banging other women.
alex stein
But what about porn cheating?
Because that's kind of a gray area.
I've had this public debate.
I'm not going to sit here and lie and say I don't like to look at a picture of some boobs sometimes.
tim pool
It's a gradient though, right?
It's a hard line.
You've got to figure it out for yourself.
But the general idea is you should be having relations with your significant other.
Here's the way I view it.
If we're able to go into an AI matrix, and there was a fake woman that was created, or fake man, that was created by the machine that you knew didn't really exist in real life, and people would be like, oh, it's just like porn, it's no different.
It's like, no, no, no, no.
When you go to a bar and hook up with someone, you're not in their mind.
You're just looking for a fling.
If you get a fling from a fake person or a person, you are still cheating on your significant other.
Like, you should be having relations with your significant other, you should be... But I'll tell you this, maybe the solution for some people is the spouse, and you go in together and have a whole plethora of weird AI matrix garbage.
ashley st clair
But why is it so much different for you if it's done in the metaverse versus done in any other game?
Well, for cheating, is it cheating to then... I'm saying you can feel it, you're actually doing it.
tim pool
Oh.
I'm super annoyed with Baldur's Gate for this, because I don't care about having a romance with some, like, devil woman or whatever.
I'm like, whatever, dude.
I'm just trying to, like, fight this squid guy or something like that.
And it's just like, in the game you go to camp and it's like, are you sure you want to go to bed?
People want to talk to you.
I'm like, I am not talking to these people.
alex stein
What, because everybody wants to have sex at the camp?
This is like sexual indoctrination.
I mean, I don't know.
tim pool
They want the romance paths.
phil labonte
They're making it for women.
tim pool
Well, I don't know what the point is.
Like, bro, I'm telling you, I'm playing a game where I throw fireballs and summon zombies and stuff because I just want to fight a dragon, you know what I mean?
It's fun to level up your guy, get stronger, and then you defeat the dragon.
The last thing I want to do is go into the camp.
I'll tell you what I did, though.
There's one relationship in that game that is a must, and it's when you rescue the dog and you play fetch.
And then, you get the spell of animal speech, and then you walk up, normally walk up to the dog, he's like, and you give, you pet him, and then he brings you stuff, he'll like, and then you could throw the ball, and then I got a potion of animal speech, and he's like, hello friend, I hope you're doing well, and then I was like, I'm sorry about your master, but I'm glad that we're friends, he's like, I'm glad we're friends too, and then you pet him, I'm like, that's the only relationship that matters.
unidentified
That's definitely not cheating.
ashley st clair
A game to try when I get back to New York City.
ian crossland
That's fun.
Oh yeah, it is pretty good.
ashley st clair
Have you played Starfield?
ian crossland
Not yet.
ashley st clair
Well, so, It's good, it's just there's a lot of perk walls.
tim pool
Hey, but let's talk about this, because- So I did beat it, and then I read the reactions people had to the ending that I did, and it's... I think Baldur's Gate 3 made a huge mistake with one of their storylines, which allows you to, I would say, legitimately beat the game in five hours or less, probably less, and...
I decided to just reload and purposefully lose to advance the story, and I just think it's the stupidest thing ever.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
ian crossland
Yeah, I tend to play those games just to experience the game.
Like, I don't look for a victory pad.
I just want to do the quests and explore the... Yeah, you're like me.
ashley st clair
I like the side quests.
ian crossland
Yeah, the whole game's side quests, pretty much.
But you made a good point.
Like, if you're in a video game and you're, like, the red square, and it's like, The dialogue says, I am having sex with you now.
Yes, and the blue square, the green square comes up, and you see like a dot go back and forth between the squares.
That's not really cheating on your wife.
tim pool
Right.
ian crossland
But if it's a fully looking digital woman, and you can feel it with haptic stuff, so you think only if you can feel the sensation?
tim pool
No, I think haptics would be more akin to like using a toy.
I'm talking about if you can plug in the Neuralink to your brain, And then you feel the world like you do.
You go into a bar, and there's a bunch of AI, you know, floozies, and you're like, let's go!
I'm like, that's cheating.
alex stein
Well, what's worse, because all women that have jobs have a work husband, and you know, they might have a boyfriend.
What?
Yeah, most women do.
You probably do.
ashley st clair
I don't have a work husband.
alex stein
Well, I don't know.
I don't know your work relationship.
tim pool
What's a work husband?
alex stein
Like, you know, somebody at work that you're friends with.
You know, usually a lot of times girls become friends with a guy, and it's kind of their, You never heard that term?
tim pool
No.
alex stein
Well that's like a common term and it's really become even more popular lately and oftentimes it's like what's worse the emotional cheating of them becoming best friends or like her having a one-night stand one time never again or her having a guy that every morning is giving her coffee and talking to her?
The sex.
That's worse?
tim pool
Yes.
ian crossland
The risk of impregnation.
alex stein
I mean, I would agree.
I wouldn't want my wife to bang some other guy.
I'd rather have a friend at work.
tim pool
Simple question.
When a guy is angry that he's friend zoned, the issue is not that they're friends, it's that he wants more.
So if you have a significant other who's giving you the more you ask for, and then is friends with the guy who's in the friend zone, like he's in the crummier position.
People have emotional connections to lots and lots of people.
Personally, I kind of feel like if you're in a relationship with someone, I mean, my, like, I don't hang out with anybody else.
Like me and my girlfriend literally just do everything together.
And it's, it's like, there's, I don't call anybody else.
I have no, I don't know.
That's just me.
alex stein
Well, that's weird.
If there's relationships where girls have like best friends or.
tim pool
I'm not a fan of that.
I would be like, this doesn't work for me.
But for me and my girlfriend, if, if like, if I'm not working, we are going out together to hang out, to like, she plays poker with me.
We'll be both at the table and we do everything.
ian crossland
We were just talking about this.
Earlier, and I feel like I need a therapist with my girlfriend to be able to have this conversation without going at her, like at each other about it, but like women don't understand or tend, it seems like they don't quite understand that guys want to have sex with them.
That is the DNA that men physically, if they become close to a woman, friendship-wise, that there's going to be a desire to have sex and a willingness to.
phil labonte
Women absolutely understand that.
alex stein
A woman knows within 10 seconds if they would bang a guy.
Then right then, they turn it off or something.
ian crossland
No, he's just a friend.
phil labonte
Listen, when they have you as a friend, or they have people that are friend-zoned,
what that is, is keeping the man in a position to do the things in a relationship
should the relationship that they're in fall apart.
ashley st clair
Yeah, it's called orbiters.
phil labonte
It's like the AAA team.
And he's staying because he's hoping that he gets called up to the big leagues.
alex stein
Or he's banging 10 girls at once and it doesn't matter.
phil labonte
It's a horrible situation, that's why if a girl friendzones you, stop talking to her.
Like if you're interested in a girl and she friendzones you, stop talking to her.
Because she will extract from you, even if she's not intentionally a bad person, you are going to give her attention, she is going to accept it.
tim pool
I don't even see it that way.
unidentified
When I was younger, if there was— That's the way it is, though.
tim pool
No, no, no, no, no, but that's a bad way to look at it.
If there was a woman I was interested in and she was like, you know, I'm not interested in you, I'd be like, I just want to let you know, I am, but clearly there's an impasse here, and I think this is, like— That sounds healthy, but nobody— That's exactly how I deal with it.
alex stein
I'm like— That's good.
tim pool
I'd just be like, hey, look, that's cool, go do your thing.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
I'll see you around. That's not I'm out. That's the I mean, that's the way I don't even do and there's no reason to be
tim pool
to be Women are women are allowed to not like me. Do you ask that's
ian crossland
cool a long time ago, Ashley I think the first time you're on the show if you thought
men and women could be friends you said yeah But that the dynamic changes it's not like the same kind of
unidentified
friendship that like a guy would have yeah I mean like you said
ashley st clair
I think most men there is some sort of sexual tension there and they would sleep with most the women that they're quote-unquote
friends with So it's difficult to maintain long-term friendships with men without them wanting to step outside.
phil labonte
To be fair, a lot of men would sleep with women they don't like as well.
unidentified
Yes.
phil labonte
So that's good too.
ashley st clair
Yes.
ian crossland
Do you think it's ethical for guys or girls that are in relationships to be chatting, text chatting with other people of other sexes?
ashley st clair
I think it's fine to have friends of the opposite gender.
You know, I'm not going all Mike Pence there.
phil labonte
But the Pence rule works!
alex stein
What is the Pence rule?
Gay conversion therapy works?
I love that.
I actually have a very successful gay conversion therapy.
My producer, Jimmy, I put him through it and it actually works.
So go ahead, sir.
ashley st clair
I don't know if it works for Jimmy, but Mike Pence, he was in the headlines, I don't know, this was probably six years ago now, because he won't go to dinner or do anything with another woman if his wife's not also present.
And, you know, there's also some people in our industry and in our field, they won't go to events without their husband because they don't want rumors.
And I totally understand that.
phil labonte
Like if I'm on tour or whatever, I don't go out to do anything with only a female ever at all.
ashley st clair
Yep.
phil labonte
Period.
Never, ever, ever.
ashley st clair
It's the only way to avoid accusations.
So I totally understand.
ian crossland
The texting is what I feel like it's insidious.
I'm from the generation before the internet, like in the early 90s, late 80s, you didn't have texting.
It was either you called a girl on the phone, which if I had a girlfriend, I called another girl, would be cheating.
Or if I would have to go to her house to see her.
And if my girlfriend didn't know that I was going to a girl's house to talk to her, that'd be cheating.
Phil, you're the only one here that I think is older.
You're older than me.
I find that it's so casual.
Kids are like, or people that are used to the internet is like, I'm just texting.
It's just texting.
I don't even know.
I don't even like the guy.
phil labonte
It's all about the person.
tim pool
Yeah.
phil labonte
It's all about the individual.
ashley st clair
I don't think there's an issue with texting someone unless you're hiding it from your significant other and your significant other doesn't know about that.
tim pool
I think you know a lot of these conservatives make fun of these dudes who are like polycules or whatever with like a big fat woman and they'll be like you know you see these videos where it's like a morbidly obese woman and like five guys behind her and she's like we're all in this together and it's like conservatives make fun of that and I'm like I really don't think they care like these dudes live this world they live this world it's just That's it.
I think some of these guys might be unhappy and would probably prefer something better.
But like, it's the same thing with Chelsea Handler saying that she wakes up at six in the morning, does drugs and masturbates.
I'm just like, I don't care.
She's probably happy.
I think she'll be unhappy later in life when she has no family and no one to take care of her.
But come on, the idea that she's doing pure dopamine stimulation right when she wakes up, she's hitting those dopamine centers.
She probably feels great.
alex stein
Well, it's funny you say that, because one of the guys who I've become very good friends with, a guy named Bubba Clem, his name's Bubba the Love Sponge, he has a radio show, and the reason why he is, one of the reasons he's famous is he let Hulk Hogan bang his wife.
unidentified
Oh, right.
alex stein
In the Hulk Hogan sex tape.
And the reason why I bring up Bubba is he's a very masculine guy, he's an alpha guy, loves football, this and that.
I would have never expected him to be into polyamory.
I'm not into it at all, but like you said, Tim, there are people that are just into letting somebody bang their wife.
That's cuckoldry.
I'm just saying, that's just what they like.
It's not that... I mean, I'm not... I don't like that, but some people... He's a normal guy.
ashley st clair
I think you should be ashamed of yourself if you allow someone else to sleep with you.
tim pool
I don't think you're... you're not... it's not your wife.
alex stein
I'm not saying I agree with it, but I'm saying some guys like that.
That's just what they... they want to be a cuckold.
tim pool
If you are in a position where your wife wants to sleep with someone else and you allow it to happen, you are not really married.
alex stein
Well my wife and her boyfriend right now are having a great time.
tim pool
I don't care.
ian crossland
Are they listening to the show?
tim pool
It is clear in law that the word marriage as a legal concept doesn't matter to what marriage actually is.
And the fact that we are in a world of no-fault divorce means there's quite literally no contractual marriage at all.
A real marriage is when you and another person actually have that commitment and are knowingly married.
Like you have a commitment to each other till death do us part.
This idea that people can go to Vegas and be like, we're married now.
It's like, no you're not, dude.
That's not real marriage.
But we do have to go to Super Chats.
Let's go to Super Chats, smash the like button, subscribe to the channel, share the show with your friends and all that jazz.
We're a little late, but we'll read what you got.
What is this?
Ben says, Tim, please look up the clip of Biden introducing Secretary Booty Juice.
It's a good laugh.
phil labonte
What?
Yeah.
alex stein
What did he say to Booty Juice?
unidentified
What did he do?
phil labonte
He just called him Booty Juice.
tim pool
Was it an accident?
unidentified
He didn't say Booty Juice, what did he say?
phil labonte
He just slopped it out the way that he slops all of his sentences out.
alex stein
Well, what is it?
He said he was a professor for four years at a school that he was only at for two years?
He just said that today?
phil labonte
Oh yeah, that was in Pennsylvania.
alex stein
He said he was like a tenured, whatever, professor or something?
He said he taught for four years, he was only there for two?
phil labonte
Now that CNN and the mainstream media is actually collecting these and putting them out so that people can see them, I actually like Biden a little bit better just because he's funnier.
alex stein
And honestly, I'm starting to like Biden because I know, I mean, this is just pure speculation, they're going to put Kamala Harris in the presidency.
ian crossland
You think so?
You really think so?
tim pool
I don't think so.
ian crossland
She's so miserable.
alex stein
Just for a month, just to do it, and then they'll go back to Gavin Newsom.
tim pool
Okay, just for a month, it might be.
phil labonte
Yeah, just for like a... Just a tip.
ian crossland
What if they run her as Gavin's VP?
alex stein
I wouldn't be surprised.
She's the best VP!
ian crossland
That's like sloppy second.
Has anyone ever been VP to two different presidents?
alex stein
She literally gave Willie Brown the mayor of San Francisco BJ's to get rid of.
Well, I think that's out in the open, I think.
unidentified
I don't know if that specifically.
alex stein
I think she dated Willie Brown.
tim pool
Dating is, you're building more specific in there.
ian crossland
Maybe they're waiting till marriage.
alex stein
All right, let's get some more.
tim pool
Here we go.
Think on this as hobbies after all are what you spend your free time on, whether or not, oh, I'm sorry, he says, misogyny may be too strong of a phrase there, but that is what women feel when you belittle their differences.
Hobbies after all are what you spend your free time on, whether or not they benefit anyone.
I think this is a reference to Fresh and Fit.
We're saying that women don't have hobbies.
serge du preez
Yes.
tim pool
Right?
So like, like what do you do for fun, Ashley?
ashley st clair
I play video games.
tim pool
Right, so you have hobbies.
Yeah.
What they were saying is that, and my response to a lot of their comments was like, you guys
surround yourself with a very particular group of women.
And they're like, no, these are regular women, like college degrees, masters, whatever.
And they said that, you know, 80% of women will just be like, when they say, what do
They'll go, oh, I hang out with my friends.
And they're like, yeah, but what are you doing when you do it?
Like, what do you mean?
I go out.
It's like, what does go out mean?
Like, what does that mean?
What do you do?
And they're like, what do you mean I go out?
Like, I don't know what you're talking about.
They're confused by the question.
ian crossland
The answer was cocaine.
They just didn't want to say it.
tim pool
No, the answer was we go to a bar and we sit there.
ashley st clair
Well, they also probably have other hobbies that they wouldn't consider hobbies, like makeup.
Makeup's a hobby for a lot of women.
I'm sure they're all getting dressed up.
Fashion's a hobby.
tim pool
Makeup is a hobby if you're, like, mastering the skill of applying makeup properly, but if you're, like, passively putting makeup on just to look good, I wouldn't consider it a hobby.
ashley st clair
I don't think, have you spent significant time around women talking about makeup with each other?
It is kind of a hobby.
tim pool
I'm saying it can be a hobby if there's a culture around it and like you're describing it, but I don't think, I think for a lot of them that's not the case.
ashley st clair
Well, this makes me... I would just, I think most women think of makeup as a hobby.
alex stein
This makes me a simp on a blimp, but I don't, I don't like the new kind of movement where it's like, Repeal the 19th Amendment.
Women shouldn't vote.
Like, I just, I think that's so dumb.
I mean, I'm not even trying to say women are... It's a bunch of relationship advice from single people.
tim pool
Do women apply makeup for the pleasure gain from sitting there putting on makeup and no other reason?
ashley st clair
Yeah, sometimes.
Some women do.
tim pool
In that instance, I would say it's a hobby.
But for women who are like, they know makeup or whatever, that's like saying, I buy Volcom jeans and I've talked to people about my shoes, so my shoes are a hobby.
No, they're not.
ashley st clair
No, I guess there's just a different culture around it.
tim pool
If I collected shoes, my hobby would be shoe collecting.
ashley st clair
Yeah.
What would you call that?
Makeup collecting?
tim pool
If a woman puts on makeup, takes a picture, and then cleans it off, hobby.
If a woman just puts makeup on for the sake of putting on makeup the same as anybody puts on clothes or a shirt or whatever, that's not a hobby.
ashley st clair
My point is these women probably have hobbies that they're not classifying as hobbies.
Or that men don't think of as hobbies.
tim pool
I think it's fair to say that Fresh and Fit surround themselves with a particular type of woman, so they're getting a lower percentage of women with hobbies.
Obviously there are women who are doing sports, there are women who skateboard, there are women who play poker, but I think any guy who's engaged in your standard, most popular hobbies, women make up, you know, 1 in 5 to 1 in 10 of the participants.
ashley st clair
Sure, they're acceptable hobbies that Fresh and Fit likes.
No, I'm talking about- What are the hobbies of the men on Fresh and Fit?
tim pool
I'm saying, look at the top commercial hobby activities.
And women are a very small percentage of participants.
If you look at things like, first of all, if you look at news shows, for instance, do you watch the news?
ashley st clair
Women are- The top hobbies are learning.
Yeah, women.
Women, painting, and cooking, and writing, and gardening.
Actually, these are primarily female-dominated.
The hobbies, dance, gardening, photography, poetry, and drawing.
tim pool
But maybe the question is, they ask, what do you do for fun?
Oh yeah, if you're cooking for a family.
Nobody would say, like, I'm writing for fun.
phil labonte
Women can just, like, be, whereas men actually have to do something to be worthy.
ashley st clair
What are you doing, bro?
phil labonte
Well, men do things, like, and not for nothing, but, like, men that don't do anything, that sit on their butt, everybody looks at them like they're just a pile.
Dude, it's like women Actually can be like, well, you know, I hang out with my friends and not do things and their value is intrinsic because they're women.
Men have to earn value.
They have to do something to become valued.
ian crossland
It's so much that I'll get a phone call from a guy and he'll be like, hey man, what's going on?
I'm just over here.
Doesn't even wait for my answer.
He's programmed to ask me what I'm doing.
Doesn't even wait for me to respond.
And that's like the, it's taking a place for hello.
Hey man, what's up?
I'm just over here talking and I'm like, You want me to tell you what I'm doing?
You just asked me.
Anyway, sorry.
tim pool
We'll read some more Super Chats.
We got Eye of the Storm says, Please read my chat.
This is for Ian.
You're an awesome bro.
I pray that one day I meet you and chill.
But more importantly, you should look up The Gift of the Holy Ghost, Ian.
God wants your life.
ian crossland
You gave me a compliment and then told me to do something.
Gift of the Ghost.
So I'm gonna do it.
But we will meet one day.
tim pool
Jason Dixon says, Tim, please shout out the Discord.
We are developing the culture.
It's getting huge.
We welcome like-minded people.
Yes, so aside from the members only shows that you can get as a member at TimCast.com, Monday through Thursday we do the live show.
We take about four or five callers, typically five callers every night from the members to call in and talk to us and our guests.
And then the members have taken it upon themselves to create their own after show for all the people who want to keep hanging out.
So I think that's actually the biggest benefit of what we, I think we've accidentally built something awesome.
The goal was, hey, sign up and then you can watch the show.
And then all of a sudden, the people who signed up started talking to each other, building things with each other, creating, sharing ideas and making their own platforms and shows.
And so join the membership and meet more people in your area and meet people who share your ideas and make friends.
phil labonte
Isn't it crazy how it was an unexpected community that was built and it really just fits right into the idea?
tim pool
Bridget May says, they removed today's Culture War.
We did not!
It was live and then we ended the live and then uploaded a full version.
And so there is the live streamed version.
So I'll just put it this way.
I got to keep it a little bit vague, but one of the challenges with a live stream is that you can't change it.
So if you want to trim or blur or add or anything like that, it's restricted and very difficult to do.
So once the show ended, I was like, let's just re-upload what's called VOD, video on demand version, instead of the streamed version, which gives us more controls over the whole thing.
And it is there.
It is on the page and people are listening to it.
Also it is on, I believe it's up on all podcast platforms.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So you can check it out.
And it was a really good one.
It was, um, Katie Faust and Jeff Younger, we were discussing modern marriage relationships, parental rights, and men's rights, and Jeff Younger made a really, really great point.
He said his position was, women should sign surrogacy contracts for their own children, so here's how it would work.
You're a man and a woman, and you are going to have a biological baby that the mother will conceive as the Bible intended with the man, but she signs a surrogacy agreement like any woman would do in an IVF surrogacy, but then has the biblical child.
That way, at any point, the man can, at all points, the man is in full control of custody and rights and is favored in the courts.
And Katie was like, no, that's horrible.
And then he asked, would you agree to a contract like that?
And she was like, of course not.
Absolutely not.
He goes, you think any woman would?
And she said, absolutely not.
And he goes, That's exactly the contract men sign when they have kids with a woman today.
The courts favor the women.
86%, I think it is.
86%.
A woman can just take the child away from the father.
The trope in society is that when a fight happens, the man is forced to leave his own home.
It's not absolute, but that's what it is.
And that was the point he made.
I would just say, I was like, I see the logic in your argument and the horror in the emotional prospects of what you're proposing, but I get the point he's trying to make.
He's saying, why would anyone agree to be in a relationship where you create a child when you are in the negative in terms of control over the raising of that child.
It's like, fair point.
alex stein
Well, Jeff Younger has a unique situation where he has two twins and then the wife is transitioning the other one, and I'm not even trying to throw shots at Jeff, but I guess I am going to throw a little bit of a shot.
I agree with a lot of what he says, but one of his court cases was to not talk about his custody battle, and then he talked about it, and that's one of the reasons he lost custody of his kids.
It's because he kept talking about it.
tim pool
Was it specifically?
alex stein
Well, I think it's because he kept making it public.
tim pool
I would argue there's a strong case he did the right thing.
alex stein
Yeah, I think so too, but my point is, if you're gonna say, I'm gonna follow the rules of a judge, the judge is gonna say you don't get to have your kids, I'm not saying that's right or wrong, I'm not saying, I think that's totally wrong, I think the system's screwed up, what they're doing to January 6th, what they're doing to him is screwed up, but if you don't follow the rules...
You're gonna lose custody of your kids.
tim pool
Yeah, I think we're getting into a very dangerous space when a political cultist of a judge, and she is, is like going to empower someone to castrate your son.
We are getting into very, very, very, very dangerous territory that I hope we do not get into.
ashley st clair
Yeah.
alex stein
Oh, I know.
ashley st clair
We are.
And I don't think that these family courts, these courts, these judges should have really any dominion over our children, but we've given them that.
And that's the real issue with family court.
And I think, you know, Jeff, obviously I'm sympathetic to his case, but I don't think it's helpful, this division of the sexes and blaming women and this and that, because it really, at the end of the day, the issue is that the government is so hyper-involved in making these decisions for our children when they shouldn't be.
tim pool
And I want to add, too, I'm pretty sure this is public knowledge.
We talked about it.
The mother of his kids is not actually the biological mother.
alex stein
Yeah, I know.
That's the other weird part.
ashley st clair
Oh, I didn't know that.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
She's a stepmother.
ian crossland
But she got custody?
Yes.
tim pool
And fled to California, I think it was.
alex stein
It is very weird.
It's very weird.
I'm very empathetic to Jeff.
I'm just saying, when you're in a court, you're in a custody battle.
You know, you have to follow the rules, whether they're legal, whether they're fair.
That's just the system.
tim pool
Alright, we got one of these guys.
Arturius Rex says, Tim, frog boiling in a pot was shown by Goltz to only work if you lobotomize the frog.
Intact frogs attempt to escape even in slowly heating water.
We all know this.
Frog boiling a pot is just a turn of phrase.
It is the meme version I don't want to say the, if we all sit here allowing incremental change over a long period of time, we'll be oblivious to the changes happening around us until it's too late and then we are detrimentally, negatively impacted.
I'd rather just say, we're frogs boiling in a pot, man.
We've got to make sure... It's a meme.
It is a way to simplify an idea into a phrase.
But yes, it has long been known, frogs will try to escape.
Just like lemmings don't actually walk off cliffs.
unidentified
Yeah, true.
serge du preez
Unless, you know, Disney execs were pushing them off.
alex stein
Yeah, they pushed them off.
That was great.
That's messed up.
Everybody needs to look into that.
What was the name of that video?
serge du preez
Uh, I don't know.
It came out in, like, the 70s.
alex stein
Look at Disney killing lemmings.
tim pool
Yeah, it's true.
They were staring them.
alex stein
Yeah, and then a camera, like, underneath the legs.
I mean, that's ridiculous.
Yeah.
tim pool
That's so messed up.
unidentified
It is.
tim pool
Jeez.
Anastasia B says, Guys, I'm seven years sober today.
alex stein
Dude, congratulations!
tim pool
Glad to hear it.
alex stein
We sound like an AA meeting.
We're like, but that is incredible.
Keep up the good work.
tim pool
Neglectful Sausage says, every single one of you in here pays thousands of dollars a year in cool new apps and phones to support surveillance state.
Stop pretending you're rebels.
ian crossland
That's the banality of evil.
tim pool
Yeah, and also I think it's like an over dramatically, over dramatic simplification of any and all of our positions.
ian crossland
I also want to know who, what device you use to type that super chat on.
tim pool
And it's not just that.
It's like, bro, you can be a rebel in a system.
I don't understand what you're saying.
I am not an advocate for people abolishing cell phones and capitalism.
I'm in favor of technological advancement.
I would just like there to be alterations to the current way we're going about doing it.
In fact, if someone came out and was like, we're getting rid of all smartphones, I'd be like, okay.
I think it's been bad across the board if that's what we got to do.
Yeah, if everyone is mindlessly marching in lockstep, and you're still, you know, on the field in which they are marching, and you're walking somewhat in the general direction while telling them not to walk that way but to turn right, Like, you are rebelling.
I don't know.
It's not that complicated.
You don't have to act like every single act of rebellion is not shaving your armpits, throwing your phone at the wall, and going to live under a bridge.
Because, like, because modern, you know, modern homes, man, they put your name on a list, and the government stores that at the records, and then all of a sudden it's in Google, and everyone knows where you live, and they're tracking your data, so the only way to get away from it is to go... Come on.
The argument would be, you can't rent because you gotta put your name on the piece of paper, you can't have an ID.
It's like, bro, we can reject and resist, you don't have to, you know, be a caveman.
ian crossland
I think a lot of good can come from tools that are derived through evil actions, like, you know...
Some warmonger gets a bunch of slaves to make a bunch of guns and then you break out the guns and the slaves and use those same guns to overthrow the slave master, for instance.
But I think that a lot of times evil actors will use that premise to do evil, thinking that later they're going to do good with this evil action.
And it's a dangerous path, but it is possible.
alex stein
It's important to be civilly disobedient, and one thing is that the FBI and NSA supposedly, even if your computer, as long as it's plugged into power and your TVs, that they can hack into everything.
So, I mean, you know, we can't live in a world where there's no surveillance.
tim pool
Oh, this is important.
JustMe says, the Trump revenge photo got me reported to HR at a company I have worked at for 10 years, fighting for my job now.
phil labonte
Sounds like you got a lawsuit on your hands.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
For having a picture of Trump and saying revenge?
serge du preez
Probably our image?
unidentified
You got fired from Planned Parenthood, I guess?
tim pool
Depends on where you worked, man.
But I would like to hear more.
I don't know.
Anyway, you were saying something, Phil?
phil labonte
I don't remember.
ian crossland
You said it sounds like a lawsuit in the making.
tim pool
No, before that he was saying something.
I was like, wait, I got to read this.
What do we got?
More super chats.
What is this?
Poppinspatches.com says, Alex Stein is so on fire that not even a Nebraska downpour last year could stop him from spittin' fire.
Thank you, Tim.
Can Public Square have an airsoft field?
Public... So, uh... We gotta be careful here.
I don't, you don't ask me about anything having to do with Public Square.
The idea is we're going to be building an anti-Times Square.
Ian said we should call it Public Square, and I'm like, that's up to them.
Lowercase P, unless they want it to be uppercase P. Well, because Times Square was named for Times of the World or whatever, which is the New York Times, I believe.
And so this, we want to do, you're going to love this, we got to have an Alex Stein location or whatever.
alex stein
Yeah, please.
tim pool
So we've got a Casper coffee shop.
alex stein
Okay.
tim pool
We want to build a Cousin T's diner.
alex stein
Oh yeah, and then Jack's Pizza.
Yeah, I saw this.
tim pool
I want a MyPillow brick-and-mortar location where you can go in and they got the bathrobes and the towels, the slippers, the pillows.
I think that's easy, especially because their inventory doesn't expire.
ian crossland
I wonder if we could open a Jeremy's.
alex stein
We should have a prime time.
ian crossland
It'll just be like Jeremy's razors, Jeremy's chocolate, Jeremy's products.
tim pool
Daily Wire should have a store where they have razors and chocolate.
ian crossland
It should just be Daily Wire, it should be a brick-and-mortar.
tim pool
And they have the Daily Wire playing on it, and all the stuff they sell, and their merch.
alex stein
I want the primetime Rage Room where you just go in and you break anything.
tim pool
Let's do it!
For sure!
And we'll have like a cartoon picture of your face going like... And you'll get a mallet.
alex stein
You can break anything.
Printers, we can recreate office space.
phil labonte
You have to bring your own stuff to break though.
alex stein
Well, we'll have some stuff.
You want to bring, like, you know, your ex-wife's old, you know, some sort of her favorite china?
You can just break that.
tim pool
Yeah, they have these rage rooms.
But so, we're actually having a meeting about it next week, and we've invested a lot of money already.
I think it's fair to say that our investment is around a couple million dollars in getting started.
And it's big, it's gonna be big, everyone agrees, it's gonna be the best.
But just think how cool it's gonna be when, you're right, yeah, Daily Wire having a storefront location where they sell razors, memberships, chocolate, anything else they do.
We gotta have a bar set up somewhere, maybe Seth Weathers opens a bar.
alex stein
Yeah.
tim pool
The Ultra Dad's Bar or whatever, and he's got his beer there.
And then what it is, people will come, as tourists, because all of your favorite shows and people have their businesses here, To create a space where you can support businesses you care about.
Ian had the idea of calling it Public Square.
I hit Public Square.
The Public Square guy's up.
Public Square should have one of the biggest storefronts where all the different products can be purchased, like a big... You know, like you go to the Hershey's store and they have all the candy everywhere?
You go into the Public Store, the Public Square store, and all the different Public Square companies have products.
And you can walk up and they've got it all.
ian crossland
Man and if there was a literal square there in the center where with like a big plaque on it that has the directions to all like the different restaurants and shops and stuff around you can go look at the map or it could be a digital map.
I think you'd also have it on your phone.
tim pool
There's a we're a long ways from that for a few reasons the most important thing is that there's a historical society and the first the first Primary law in all of this is to protect and preserve the generational businesses and historical buildings because we want to be the opposite of Times Square.
We do not want to be a commodified billboard garbage advertising thing of massive faceless corporations.
We want American values.
We want to restore a lot of the places, a lot of the buildings.
ian crossland
We got to build a big fountain.
tim pool
Well, I don't know.
I'm just saying we're not going to go in and put up signs and do whatever.
We're going to work with the people who are there to what best suits their needs and revitalizing these particular areas while bringing in companies that believe in America's values and investing in the space and cleaning it up.
There are a lot of people in the area that we're looking at who've got generational businesses.
And I want to see them become like they will be it is it is they're the reason this this matters someone who inherited their store from their mom who got it from their grandmother who got it from the you know great-grandmother and then revitalizing the areas restores that business and you know provides wealth and means to the family who's been there for generations and you know that I want to you know we got a great plan for this.
We're just getting started.
It's probably amazing.
ian crossland
The biggest threat, well one of the largest threats, is making too much too fast.
Just like immigration.
You can't let in too many people too quick.
It can really change the dynamic of an environment.
But I think we can do it.
tim pool
Ryan Sargent says Michelle Obama and VP Newsom.
I don't think so.
I don't see Michelle Obama.
unidentified
I don't know.
serge du preez
I don't either.
tim pool
Yeah.
I do think Joe Biden will drop out in some way.
I don't know.
I just, I don't see how you have Nancy Pelosi on CNN being like, what if Joe Biden doesn't run?
Because I hope he, or what if he does, what if he drops out?
She's like, I hope he doesn't, you know.
Or I hope he, what did she say?
She hopes he doesn't drop out.
Something like that.
alex stein
And Gavin said the same thing.
tim pool
She hopes he runs.
serge du preez
Oh, okay.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
I want to be careful how she phrased it, but the general idea of what she said is there is a concern she has that Joe Biden drops out.
And I'm like, they're priming us with the distractions and now we're getting with the impeachment stuff.
I don't see a logical path for them to run Biden.
I feel like they have to drop, he has to drop out.
alex stein
There's no way they're going to let him run in 2024.
Right.
I completely agree.
tim pool
Well, we'll see, we'll see.
Let's, uh, let's maybe grab one more.
Joe's Rusty Razor says, Glenn Beck can have a museum in Public Square.
Would be super cool.
alex stein
That'd be really cool.
tim pool
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alex stein
I want to shout out Dylan Keller, Dylan the Villain Keller, and watch my show on BlazeTV, Primetime with Alex Stein.
Hit the link, youtube.com, Primetime Alex Stein.
ashley st clair
Just get the Babylon Bees Guide to Gender.
Thanks for having me, Tim.
Sorry, I'm a little tired today.
tim pool
Oh, you're tired.
ashley st clair
I am.
I got the energy drink here.
tim pool
Those are good.
ian crossland
You'll be feeling like an hour.
ashley st clair
I'm trying.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
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ian crossland
Hit me up at Ian Crossland.
Anytime, anywhere on the internet, you know where to find me.
Have a nice evening.
Catch you later.
serge du preez
And iamsurge.com, also Surge in real life too, so find me on Twitter, let's argue, etc, etc.
tim pool
Alright everybody, thanks for hanging out.
It's been a great week.
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