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Sept. 3, 2023 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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| I know who's responsible for the wildfires in Maui. | ||
| White people! | ||
| Ah! | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Did you read that in the news? | ||
| I did, in the New York Times apparently. | ||
| They have this, this is from townhall.com. | ||
| We were all waiting for the left to voice this terrible opinion on the Maui wildfires from Matt Vespa. | ||
| And he says, you knew this opinion piece would bubble up at some point. | ||
| The Maui wildfires, etc, etc. | ||
| The cause of the fires yet to be determined. | ||
| I guess they're saying it's power lines. | ||
| But for some, the Maui wildfires, which have destroyed communities and shattered families, was an opportunity to bash Americans and America and blame the real culprit of these fires. | ||
| White people. | ||
| Whitey! | ||
| Now is not the time for pseudo-intellectual lectures about the perils of colonialism. | ||
| That's basically what they're saying. | ||
| White people came in and took over. | ||
| If you type in what caused the fires, it's ideas from the article. | ||
| Intergovernmental panel says climate change blah blah blah. | ||
| When Christian missionaries transformed an area that was mostly wetlands into large-scale sugar plantations that required the digging of tunnels in the buildings blah blah blah. | ||
| The sugar and pineapple industries led to the deforestation etc etc. | ||
| I had to stop here. | ||
| What the hell is this? | ||
| To understand the fires, we must look to the 19th century. | ||
| No, we don't. | ||
| There are more pressing matters at hand, like finding the hundreds that are still missing. | ||
| But you get the point. | ||
| They're saying it's colonization. | ||
| It is that white people came, and you know, they're bad. | ||
| So colonization of Hawaii, like, so first of all, like, it was bad that, you know, they were, they kind of, you know. | ||
| It was an invasion. | ||
| They kind of took over the island. | ||
| And I think it was in violation of some, like, conventions or something. | ||
| Sorry we brought you power, man. | ||
| No, no, no, no, no. | ||
| That's not it. | ||
| Because the thing is, because of Hawaii's location, there was never, because Hawaii is so small and it is so remote and located, In the middle of the biggest ocean on earth, there was never a chance for it to avoid being gobbled up by some massive power. | ||
| You can't be an island nation with that kind of strategic value and think that Russia or Japan or the United States or someone isn't going to go ahead and say, we're going to come here with our military infrastructure and put something here. | ||
| Now you can say it's wrong, you can disapprove of it, but that you are not gonna, there is nowhere on earth that's insulated from the rest of earth the way that it needs to be to make sure that it doesn't, like North Sentinel Island's the only place, you know? | ||
| What's going on there? | ||
| But they're protected. | ||
| What? | ||
| What's going on in North Sentinel Island? | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| What do you mean they're protected by what? | ||
| You will be speared if you show up. | ||
| The natives have never been made contact with. | ||
| When people show up, they kill you. | ||
| And it's protected by, I think, like India or whatever? | ||
| India, yeah. | ||
| It's actually a part of India. | ||
| They run their own stuff. | ||
| And if you go there, they're going to shoot arrows at you. | ||
| And a couple years ago... Yeah, a helicopter flew by and they were shooting arrows at it. | ||
| A couple years ago, a guy got killed because he tried to go there. | ||
| You ever seen Cannibal Holocaust before? | ||
| Anybody ever watch that? | ||
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No. | |
| I won't bring it up. | ||
| There's a visual, like a video simulation of the colonization of the Pacific that's fucking wretched. | ||
| You guys gotta watch it at some point. | ||
| I just gotta say, Phil, I'm sorry. | ||
| You've just proved them right. | ||
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What? | |
| North Sentinel Island hasn't burned down. | ||
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That proves it! | |
| But North Sentinel Island is not remote like Hawaii. | ||
| It doesn't have power lines on it, does it? | ||
| No, there are no power lines on North Sentinel Island. | ||
| Guys, I have to say this. | ||
| It is difficult for me. | ||
| Without Luke or Serge here, I'm the only person of color. | ||
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That's not true. | |
| I'm Polish. | ||
| Oh, you are? | ||
| Congratulations! | ||
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And it's not one-sixteenth, it's a quarter, okay? | |
| I'm only a quarter Korean, so that counts. | ||
| Oh, so we can rag on these white dudes. | ||
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Yeah, I do it all the time. | |
| I've been called the blackest member of the Libertarian Party several times. | ||
| I never 23 and meed myself, so I don't know if I'm black or white or colored or not. | ||
| I'm confident that you're white. | ||
| I'm Spanish. | ||
| I'm mostly Spanish. | ||
| I think I might be Neanderthal. | ||
| Spanish is white. | ||
| Polish is a person of color. | ||
| What if I'm 5% Neanderthal? | ||
| Then you're still white. | ||
| Then you're not human, actually. | ||
| Then you count as an animal. | ||
| That's what I'm talking about. | ||
| Yeah, and you have actually less rights. | ||
| You gotta go with the communists, buddy. | ||
| I'm gonna side with the white colonists. | ||
| Not that they're white, but that the colonists did cause this. | ||
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Joe Biden tweeted today that he's laser-focused on the Maui recovery. | |
| He should probably be a little less focused, considering the situation. | ||
| Dude, we had Nick Sorter on the show last night, and I mean, he's basically almost explaining what we're talking about right now, that people came in, they set up power lines, they kind of modernized and colonized the island, and then they don't take the wood out of the- they don't, like, keep up the forest. | ||
| You're supposed to go in and remove the dead wood from underneath the trees so that these brush fires don't happen, and they haven't been doing that. | ||
| It is not white people that are doing that, though. | ||
| White people are not the people in charge of the island. | ||
| It's the Democrats. | ||
| On the West Coast, it's the Democrats. | ||
| And I'll tell you, I grew up on the West Coast, all up and down Oregon and Washington and California. | ||
| Progressive deforestation policies have created all the wildfires on the West Coast, period. | ||
| They've stopped clearing the underbrush, they stopped taking down trees, so there's trees growing right next to trees. | ||
| It's like a giant tinderbox. | ||
| Why did they stop? | ||
| Because of the push from the left for you know conservation. | ||
| Oh to leave it natural? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean part of our natural survival is our ability to go in from the beaches, into the forest, get the dead wood out, go back to the beaches to set up life. | ||
| The natural thing is forest fires. | ||
| The logging? | ||
| The natural thing is to let the forest fires go and... Never. | ||
| There was never forest fires when I was a kid. | ||
| There were, but they were nothing. | ||
| Like there's 150 of them in Oregon every year now. | ||
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There's power lines going through all those forests now and if you're gonna do that you need to do management of the forest. | |
| It's white people, man. | ||
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So... | |
| I agree with Phil, and I also agree with you. | ||
| It's progressive deforestation policies have led to giant tinderboxes all up and down the West Coast. | ||
| There's no doubt about it. | ||
| And anybody who's arguing that at this point is just a Democrat or doesn't understand what they're talking about. | ||
| And those policies have bled into Hawaii? | ||
| I'm sure, yeah. | ||
| Well, the stuff that's on Hawaii is a little different. | ||
| I don't know what their policies are, but I know that the stuff that caught on fire was grasslands. | ||
| I believe that Hawaii was on purpose. | ||
| The fire was on purpose? | ||
| If not that it was set, that it was allowed to happen? | ||
| Here's the thing, if it wasn't on purpose, they still used it to make sure that they could get really cheap real estate. | ||
| The government. | ||
| And there's a story about one of the residents was arrested for trying to go back to his house. | ||
| And they're blocking off all the destruction? | ||
| They were blocking off people trying to get out! | ||
| Right. | ||
| There's a guy, he's 39, he was trying to go back to his property apparently. | ||
| They said they saw him leaving so they arrested him and said that was trespassing, you're not allowed in there. | ||
| And when they reported on the arrest, most outlets did not mention that he was actually a resident trying to go back to his property. | ||
| Perhaps because there's like valuables that are hard metal. | ||
| Like imagine you've got, I don't know, let's say you have a couple hundred bucks worth of silver. | ||
| That silver's still there. | ||
| It's not destroyed in the fire. | ||
| You wanna go get it? | ||
| Nope, sorry. | ||
| Oh, and there's safes that are fire- Oh, totally. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| So dude's got, like, a photo album or something, or some memory cards, or hard drives, or money. | ||
| Probably money. | ||
| Yup. | ||
| And he wants to go get it back, so they arrest him. | ||
| Like, what the fuck is going on? | ||
| That they're keeping these people out? | ||
| Well, and they're offering to buy that property for pennies on the dollar now, and... | ||
| Oprah and Hillary are sitting there up on the mountain having coffee, watching it, going, we're gonna get some new property. | ||
| It's literally some of the most valuable property in the world, too. | ||
| Oh, yeah, no doubt. | ||
| Like I said, Hawaii is really, really unique. | ||
| It's one of the most remote places in the world. | ||
| The value of the shoreline there, you know, it's beyond astronomical. | ||
| There have been developers trying to get the local owners of the property, who've owned it for generations, offering them tens of millions of dollars for a lot, and they're not selling because they don't want to, you know, they don't want to lose the property. | ||
| It's literally priceless because there's nowhere else in the world like it. | ||
| It's their family's property too, they got it. | ||
| I think Nick quoted it as one square acre, one acre squared, is that how you say it? | ||
| Is ten million? | ||
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One lot. | |
| That would make sense. | ||
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One lot, I think he said. | |
| One acre? | ||
| Or was it five acres? | ||
| I think it was one acre. | ||
| It was ten million. | ||
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It's a tiny piece of land for how much money it was. | |
| I know that. | ||
| I think it was like one lot, he was saying. | ||
| Like waterfront, one lot in Lahaina. | ||
| He's like ten mil. | ||
| Easy. | ||
| Worth every cent. | ||
| Worth every cent. | ||
| Without a property. | ||
| Just the land. | ||
| If I had the money to buy property in Hawaii, again, I would buy property in Hawaii again because they're not making any more. | ||
| It's the most valuable piece of land that you could probably get your hands on. | ||
| The volcanoes are making more. | ||
| Yeah, they're only making them on the big island though. | ||
| They're not making any more property on the other islands. | ||
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Yeah, it's so sad. | |
| And I've heard, I don't know if this is true, but apparently Maui was supposed to be a candidate for like a smart island. | ||
| So they're supposed to do all this like green renovations anyway. | ||
| And I think this is going to definitely speed up the process. | ||
| Well look, I went up on Zillow and 2.3 million for 15 acres. | ||
| Where? | ||
| Lina. | ||
| Coastal. | ||
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What? | |
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Buy it, Tim. | ||
| How much? | ||
| 2.3 million. | ||
| Here's a $1,000,000 lot. | ||
| Oh, it's also... They're like semi-coastal because it's a road. | ||
| But yeah, $1,000,000 for 15 acres. | ||
| Buy it. | ||
| In Lahaina? | ||
| But why? | ||
| Does it say that in Lahaina right now? | ||
| Lahaina, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Lahaina, Hawaii. | ||
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There's a photo of one house in the middle of all the fire that survived. | |
| 50 days on Zillow. | ||
| So these are old listings, obviously. | ||
| But they've frozen sales, so you can't buy them. | ||
| 3.5 million. | ||
| What do we got here? | ||
| This has got to be a property, I'd imagine. | ||
| This has got to be, like, an actual building. | ||
| This one is, uh... Nope. | ||
| 25 acres. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Lot land. | ||
| Oh, it's all just land. | ||
| What's going on? | ||
| Is it just, like, vertical? | ||
| Like, 60 degree angles? | ||
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Maybe that's it, though. | |
| Uninhabitable. | ||
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There's no houses for sale. | |
| No, they're there. | ||
| I just have to select. | ||
| Let me just select. | ||
| Apply. | ||
| And, uh... Loading. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
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| Taking a long time. | ||
| These are apparently old listings, though. | ||
| Okay, here we go. | ||
| That didn't add much. | ||
| What is this? | ||
| Maybe if I turn the Wi-Fi on... Oh, here we go. | ||
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Two-bedroom, two-bath, 3.5 million. | |
| Here we go, two bedroom, two bath, 3.5 million. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Wow, 13, it's on a, so these houses are on like, you know, 15 acres is big. | ||
| So this is a two bedroom, two bath, thousand square foot, it's 3.5. | ||
| It's 3.5 million. | ||
| Beautiful house. | ||
| Probably no longer exists. | ||
| It's been on the market for 118 days. | ||
| I don't think this house is there anymore. | ||
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Whoa. | |
| Yeah, that's crazy. | ||
| I'll tell you this. | ||
| Oh, wait, no. | ||
| What happened? | ||
| There's a lot of land, uh, two towns away from me in Iowa right now. | ||
| 71 acres with a seven bedroom old school farmhouse on it. | ||
| Bunch of farms and other stuff comes with a tractor for the cornfield. | ||
| I think $1.1 million. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| 71 acres. | ||
| $11,000,000 for a 5 bedroom, 5.5 bath, 5,777 square feet on 5 acres. | ||
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Geez. | |
| $11,000,000. | ||
| How much was that, Josh? | ||
| 71 acres in Iowa right now for sale for $1.1 million. | ||
| 777 square feet on five acres 11 million you can get that Josh | ||
| 71 acres in Iowa right now for sell for 1.1 million dollars. | ||
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Yeah, I bought what 70 Yeah, that's terrible. | |
| You can get 130 acres in West Virginia in like Morgan County. | ||
| This has a seven bedroom farmhouse farm, comes with the corn tractor, all the irrigation. | ||
| I think that's expensive. | ||
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That's cheap. | |
| 77 acres? | ||
| I'm from California, easy $20 million deal where I'm from. | ||
| If it's a functional farm, then it's not bad because you can literally go in and start producing a profit. | ||
| So we got 50 acres with two standing structures, one in need of renovation but still sound, one brand new building, and the 50 acres was $750. | ||
| That's really nice. | ||
| That's West Virginia. | ||
| Yeah, that is really nice. | ||
| That's normal. | ||
| I didn't know it was that cheap here. | ||
| Yeah, and we're, and we're, you're an hour from the airport. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So that's why when you were like a million for seven, I'm like, that's not that good. | ||
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71. | |
| I think it's like 71.2 acres. | ||
| I have a much easier to clear the land. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I have a feeling he's talking about an actual farm and what you got was like property with a stroke with structures. | ||
| He's got like the infrastructure. | ||
| It's got a full cornfield and you get, you know, you've got a cornfield in Iowa, you get them corn subsidies, man. | ||
| Yeah, if you got cornfield, that means you grow the food that you can give to your dairy cows. | ||
| So we were talking about doing this out here of, um, there was like a hundred acre lot. | ||
| Let me, uh, let me try and look. | ||
| Hundred acres is a lot. | ||
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Are you talking about the reserve? | |
| Yeah, we were talking about making like a public Let's do this. | ||
| Let's I remember the name 100 acres is a lot of acres we were gonna buy and just be like come build whatever you want And we'll like we're not gonna charge rent or anything, but there's gonna be like it's not for you to live and whatever it's still like have fun things make a little fur trader hut or something and then you'll have you'll have that piece of land and For as long as you decide, and then if you leave and don't come back after a certain amount of time, we take it and we'll give it to somebody else, but it's basically like a park where people can do fun stuff. | ||
| That's a pretty cool idea. | ||
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Yeah, it was right around when Elon took over Twitter, and those two guys memed the internet, Ligma Johnson. | |
| Yes, yep. | ||
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And so we were having fun with the different names we can make with a preserve. | |
| That was a lot of fun. | ||
| That was a good couple weeks there. | ||
| I really enjoyed that. | ||
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Time flies, man. | |
| It seems like it was not that long ago. | ||
| It was over a year. | ||
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It was a while ago, yeah. | |
| Yeah, because I've had my Twitter back I was kicked off Twitter for over a year. | ||
| I got kicked off in, I want to say it was October of 2020. | ||
| Why? | ||
| I never got a reason. | ||
| Were you talking about COVID? | ||
| No, I was talking about pedophiles, I think. | ||
| Oh, October 2020, good timing. | ||
| Yeah, I think it was that map. | ||
| The teacher who was saying that we had to normalize the term minor attracted person and that De-stigmatized the word pedophile, and I was just like that's really nice now face the wall and I think I think it was that was the last straw, but I had already had a bunch of strikes talking about kovat and the Products and stuff all the vaccines now. | ||
| We're on the after-show fucking vaccines Yeah, I was talking about I was talking about kovat a lot. | ||
| I read maybe it was 2021 when I got kicked off and I don't remember. | ||
| But I was off for over a year. | ||
| I know I was over a year. | ||
| And then I had sent an appeal every single day for 365 days. | ||
| And then all of a sudden one day I woke up and my Twitter was back. | ||
| What day? | ||
| I don't remember. | ||
| But within the last six months or before that? | ||
| No, I feel like it's been a while now. | ||
| It's been over six months for sure. | ||
| After Elon bought it? | ||
| Right after Elon bought it. | ||
| Within a couple of weeks, yeah. | ||
| Because I was already at almost a 20,000 follower. | ||
| Here you go. | ||
| 260 acres in Morgan County, West Virginia. | ||
| 1.5 million. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
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That's beautiful. | |
| Got a big old barn on it. | ||
| Got water access. | ||
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Look at this. | |
| Is that a deer barn? | ||
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That's crazy. | |
| So forests like that, that's why Appalachia is a stronghold if anyone invades us. | ||
| Yeah, it's going to be hard to get through there. | ||
| But these things are basically everywhere. | ||
| You ain't riding tanks through there very easy. | ||
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No. | |
| 116 for a mil. | ||
| That's pretty wild. | ||
| What do we got here? | ||
| How much is this one? | ||
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2.9... 1,000! | |
| Look at that view! | ||
| 936 acres for 2.9 million. | ||
| Jeez, dude. | ||
| That's a ranch, my friend. | ||
| That might be worth getting. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, that's a ranch. | ||
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Oh, you get that river access is... Yeah. | |
| Especially in the future, man. | ||
| You're gonna control resources in that area, for sure. | ||
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There's no doubt. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| You can build cities and stuff. | ||
| 105 acres for $290,000. | ||
| I could buy something like that. | ||
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A whole lot to clear. | |
| Wow. | ||
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That would be... That's crazy. | |
| That's really cool, yeah. | ||
| That's wild for 2.9. | ||
| That's wild. | ||
| It's only $290,000. | ||
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$290,000. | |
| Wait a minute, what? | ||
| $290,000 for 100 acres. | ||
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What? | |
| It's only 290,000. | ||
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No way. | |
| 290,000? | ||
| Wait a minute, what? | ||
| 290,000 for 100 acres? | ||
| What? | ||
| No way. | ||
| Yeah, put down 5%. | ||
| Does it say that you can't build there or something? | ||
| There's gotta be some kind of caveat. | ||
| No, it's just in the middle of fucking nowhere, dude. | ||
| Land is, yeah, land out, like, when you got, like, land with, like, nothing on it, it's not super expensive. | ||
| Does it cost so much to renovate? | ||
| Well, I mean, yeah, you gotta clear it, and you gotta build on it and stuff. | ||
| I thought it was 2.9 million for a minute, and then I looked closer. | ||
| I can't see that far away. | ||
| I got bad eyes. | ||
| As I got a little data about Hawaii, it was first colonized by the United States in 1900. | ||
| How far away from the airport is that? | ||
| About an hour? | ||
| If you start going further out to like the Maryland Panhandle. | ||
| Yeah, that's wild. | ||
| 276 acres for 900. | ||
| How far away from the airport is that? | ||
| So... | ||
| About an hour? | ||
| This is Cumberland. It's basically super close to Cumberland. | ||
| You're further than an hour away. | ||
| You're gonna want to do some kind of puddle jumper from a small airport. | ||
| But from... | ||
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Martinsburg has one. | |
| Pittsburgh's like an hour, like probably two hours from here. | ||
| Oh, that's not far, okay. | ||
| Right, and then you're, the air, like, you're gonna, hour and 45, maybe two hours to one of the DC airports. | ||
| Pittsburgh? | ||
| Pennsylvania's only that, is that close to here? | ||
| Oh, yeah, dude. | ||
| Gettysburg is like, what, like 45 minutes away? | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
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We get Steelers games out here. | |
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, Gettysburg's right over here. | ||
| I just, uh... You want to stay away from Maryland, but here you go. | ||
| In Maryland, which is like 30-40 minutes from the airport, 590,000 for 150 acres. | ||
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Thurmont's good, though. | |
| Thurmont is MAGA country, definitely. | ||
| Yeah, but who cares, because Baltimore is not, and Baltimore's gonna send state troopers to beat the fuck out of you if you have a gun. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, I won't go anywhere that doesn't allow me constitutional carry, that's for sure. | ||
| You just gotta go all the way out to the middle of nowhere here and get... That's more expensive, shit. | ||
| I love the middle of nowhere stuff, but the problem is we couldn't do the show. | ||
| We wanted to, we wanted to go to like Wyoming or Montana. | ||
| It's hard with the internet, right? | ||
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Someone said make sure the land is not perked. | |
| They may not let you build. | ||
| Perked or they may not let you build, I don't know what that means. | ||
| That's the hardest part about being in Iowa too, is we only got like one gig. | ||
| And it's... I can't multi-stream my show. | ||
| You need to get like five star links and then bond to them. | ||
| Yeah, I gotta do something crazy. | ||
| Because I use OBS to put the show out, and so if I try to restream to three or four different platforms, we'll start dropping frames right away, and then we'll drop the whole show. | ||
| I only stream to YouTube, and then Otto uploads to Rumble and other places. | ||
| Here you go. | ||
| 113 acres for $1,000. | ||
| No. | ||
| In Iowa. | ||
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What? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Is that Iowa? | ||
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Yep. | |
| Where? | ||
| Westgate. | ||
| Dude, buy it right now. | ||
| Can you put a buy now in for me, please? | ||
| No, these are fake. | ||
| It's like $1. | ||
| It's not real. | ||
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I think that's auctions. | |
| They'll do that. | ||
| Look around Adele. | ||
| We live in West Des Moines. | ||
| They might have that property in Adele. | ||
| Here you go. | ||
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156 for Adele. | |
| It's right outside of Des Moines somewhere. | ||
| They're all basically a million bucks. | ||
| I live in West Des Moines. | ||
| Oh, here you go, dude. | ||
| 118 for 200k. | ||
| Yeah, that's not bad. | ||
| Oh, it's an auction. | ||
| It's an auction. | ||
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Of course. | |
| Yeah, dude. | ||
| Iowa's expensive, man. | ||
| You know why? | ||
| It's because Chicago's right there. | ||
| Yeah, we're about five hours away from Chicago, where we live. | ||
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Minneapolis too. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| That's the coolest. | ||
| That's the coolest part about Iowa is you can get so many places in 10 hours. | ||
| You can get to like 20, 20 states in 10 hours, either way. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| See, that's the thing. | ||
| I drive everywhere. | ||
| Not like anyone's going to go buy a hundred acres, but yo, seriously, let's like, let's, let's, let's do this. | ||
| Let's, uh, let's do a lot size of one acre to five acres. | ||
| And then let's set the price way down 200. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's tons of land to be had. | ||
| Five acres for $200. | ||
| That's a Tumwa too. | ||
| That's a pretty cool spot. | ||
| Yeah, that's the thing, like, people need to understand about buying properties. | ||
| We don't have any mountains, though. | ||
| You don't need $200,000. | ||
| You save up for a few years until you get a down payment, and then you buy it, but you gotta figure out what your income is to pay that loan off or whatever. | ||
| Phil, do you- We're gonna go to callers. | ||
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Sweet. | |
| Are you in the middle of nowhere, your place? | ||
| Not particularly middle of nowhere. | ||
| I mean, it's a small town. | ||
| Do we have an order request? | ||
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No particular order tonight, however you want to do it. | |
| Alright, Liam the Censor, we're starting with you! | ||
| Welcome to the show. | ||
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Thank you all so much for having me on. | |
| So, my question for the panel, given that World War III seems to be pretty likely, I wanted to see if you all, like if Article 5 was triggered, do you all think that there's a possibility that the U.S. | ||
| might not even send troops and that we'd essentially act as a manufacturing base for the rest of NATO so that they could deal with the... We already sent troops! | ||
| I mean, like, large scale. | ||
| I'm talking, like, you know, not just special forces. | ||
| I'm, you know what I mean? | ||
| Because I mean, like, at that point, you're kind of... Nah, we, we, but, but, so, yes, definitely boots on the ground. | ||
| No question. | ||
| But I reject the premise of the question that World War III is likely. | ||
| I don't. | ||
| At least, I think that the Ukraine thing, it's not unlikely. | ||
| I think we're pushing Russia into the arms of China, and we're messing with China at the same time. | ||
| It's a little worrisome for sure. | ||
| I don't know if it's imminent, but it's definitely worrisome. | ||
| It should be worrisome to everybody. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| And Taiwan is a tripwire for war. | ||
| Right. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| And considering we have troops already in Europe and we have special forces already in Ukraine, more support is going to be sent. | ||
| You could maybe make the argument that we're not going to see heavy combat from our personnel in the immediate But we send, you know, tech support and supplies, and we have a large amount of soldiers on military bases throughout Europe, but yeah. | ||
| And Article 5 means every member of NATO. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| But that's, the thing is, if you got a defensive pact, and then one of the, and then someone's in a war, and then they join your defensive pact after they're already in the war, it doesn't trigger your defensive pact. | ||
| I mean, I don't know that you can really say that. | ||
| Not historically it didn't. | ||
| I don't know what they would do though. | ||
| I personally, I'm anti-Ukraine and NATO. | ||
| There's absolutely no reason for Ukraine to be NATO. | ||
| Take that a step further, Phil. | ||
| To be anti-NATO. | ||
| Well, yes, I am. | ||
| Fair enough, I am. | ||
| But for this context, I'm absolutely against Ukraine being a part of NATO. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| There is no reason to have a Ukraine Uh, join NATO. | ||
| All it does is make conflict with Russia more likely. | ||
| Ukraine and Russia have, like, a long, real deep history. | ||
| Russia comes from Ukraine. | ||
| Like, the Ukrainian Rus were the people that started Russia. | ||
| So, like, that, that history, we don't want to stick our nose in. | ||
| Like, we don't, I don't, I don't, there's no reason for the United States to do that, like, at all, so. | ||
| That's my take. | ||
| I just don't think that we should be defending Ukraine from Russia. | ||
| That's beyond our scope. | ||
| Or Taiwan from China, for that matter. | ||
| But Liam, did you want to elaborate any more on that one? | ||
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It was a simple answer, which I guess. | |
| Yeah, like if you guys are okay with my elaborating on it. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| So like the reason I kind of thought about that was because, you know, despite us offshoring a lot, we still have a large manufacturing base. | ||
| We have a large population. | ||
| Plus, you have other countries where it'd probably be more likely that they'd be involved and be easier to logistically. | ||
| Not saying that we couldn't, because like you said, we do have military bases over there and troops in Europe already. | ||
| But in my opinion, the main reason I would think that that's a possibility, however likely, is because the American public, for all intents and purposes, is not wanting to get involved in a war here. | ||
| So it would almost be like, oh, well, we like we're at war with Russia, but we're not going to send troops over there. | ||
| Don't worry, guys. | ||
| We're just going to. | ||
| Here's what's going to happen. | ||
| Pittsburgh is going to have a major outage and there's going to be people screaming and rioting and the government's going to come out. | ||
| Joe Biden's going to say a cyber attack launched from Moscow took out a main water reclamation plant in Pittsburgh, resulting in a loss of water for three million people. | ||
| Females responding immediately, but my fellow Americans, this is an act of war, make no mistake. | ||
| And I'm now going to confer with my colleagues in Congress, or you know, with members of Congress, as to the appropriate response to how the United States deals with this overt act of war. | ||
| And then we're going to war. | ||
| And then we're going to war. | ||
| And then you're going to have the media being like, they killed people! | ||
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10,000 dead in Pittsburgh and you're saying let them get away with it, you love Putin! | |
| And it could even be worse than that. | ||
| They'll basically be Chris Christie all over the news. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| There will be an explosion and then they'll say that the Russians have taken credit for it, that it was an attack on our infrastructure because we manufacture a component in this area that was being used by the Ukrainians and then, you know, Russia's gonna deny it and they're gonna say we know they did it and they're targeting us because we believe in freedom. | ||
| And then they're going to say, we have to stop this. | ||
| But it may even be worse than that. | ||
| I imagine that if they want us to go to war, you'd need something more substantive than 9-11. | ||
| What that would be, I don't know, but cutting off the water or blowing up some kind of refinery or some kind of cyber attack that results in the deaths of several thousands. | ||
| Yeah, it'd have to kill a lot of people for sure. | ||
| Several thousand people? | ||
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What if it's something like they're sending Biden over there for peace talks and he gets kidnapped? | |
| Or killed. | ||
| He's assassinated. | ||
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Replace Biden and you get your war. | |
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| So, although most of them could be like, see you later pops. | ||
| Yeah, you need large-scale death. | ||
| So maybe Biden's vitting, here you go, Biden goes to visit some kind of, he's on the campaign trail visiting some union shop, and then something happens, they blame it on Russia. | ||
| They could assassinate Biden and blame it on Russia. | ||
| That wouldn't be enough. | ||
| In conjunction with a nuclear, I mean, I'm just, I don't even want to say it, because it's like, what am I saying? | ||
| They could, we would need mass death, like those words coming out of our mouths is not healthy. | ||
| That's stupid. | ||
| But being aware of false flags, it's not stupid. | ||
| It is. | ||
| In order for the United States... The plane to the darkness, you gotta expose it, but don't become it. | ||
| No one is doing that. | ||
| We're saying that's what they have to do. | ||
| It's what they would do and have done, and there's no reason they won't do it again. | ||
| And this idea that we better not just say it is stupid. | ||
| Just be careful with saying it over and over again. | ||
| We need mass death. | ||
| Be careful of saying that over and over again. | ||
| That's a ridiculous, weird, hippie notion. | ||
| Calling out the establishment because they engage in false flag attacks like the Gulf of Tonkin, and we all know about Operation Northwoods. | ||
| So, right now, we know they want to escalate the war. | ||
| If it comes to it, they will need U.S. | ||
| troops on the ground, and the only way to get that is if you get mass public support. | ||
| It's gonna be incredibly fucking difficult to pull off, considering the culture wars. | ||
| Especially with Biden, because he's not convincing. | ||
| So it's gonna have to be some kind of serious attack. | ||
| Like a Pearl Harbor. | ||
| You know, I... I mean, I... | ||
| I don't know that I am uncomfortable saying that I wouldn't put it past him, but once you pointed that out, like, if they smoke Biden, right? | ||
| Say, we're gonna get real conspiracy theory. | ||
| The feds or the CIA decides they're gonna smoke Biden, right? | ||
| They take care of the problem with Ukraine and his kid. | ||
| They take care of the problem of Biden. | ||
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I mean... He becomes a martyr. | |
| He becomes a heroic image in history. | ||
| The Biden investigation no longer exists in the public space. | ||
| And Gavin Newsom can now run And then Kamala Harris was with Biden when the whole thing went down. | ||
| I think that's the plan, is Gavin Newsom. | ||
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And that scares the shit out of me. | |
| Now that we've kind of gone very deep on this one, Liam, was that sufficient? | ||
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Oh, absolutely. | |
| Thank y'all so much for having me on. | ||
| If I can just give a shout out, I think y'all should have JB McCuskey on. | ||
| He's West Virginia's auditor. | ||
| He's running for Attorney General. | ||
| He'd be a great guest. | ||
| Right on, man. | ||
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Also, if y'all ever want to come to Marshall, I'm Chair of College Republicans there. | |
| We'd love to have you. | ||
| Word! | ||
| We are Marshall. | ||
| That's cool. | ||
| What is it? | ||
| You say Marshall? | ||
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Yes, sir. | |
| Yeah, we are Marshall. | ||
| It's good. | ||
| I know from the movie. | ||
| Is that Ohio? | ||
| Marshall? | ||
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West Virginia. | |
| All right, man. | ||
| We'll take a look. | ||
| Thanks for calling in. | ||
| Thanks, dude. | ||
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Thank you so much. | |
| All right. | ||
| Next up, we have Larkin. | ||
| Larkin, you are on the show. | ||
| Larkin Rose? | ||
| You must unmute yourself. | ||
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Howdy. | |
| How's it going? | ||
| I really appreciate you guys having me on. | ||
| I had a question for Ian because, Ian, I couldn't disagree with you more, but I love you, man, and I respect your openness to change and the same reason why I really have been watching Tim for the past, like, 10 years or so. | ||
| But for me, I was very much when it came to the abortion question, right? | ||
| Like, I used to be very libertarian on it and, you know, It's not really my position and who am I to say when life began and I used to be in the military and I worked in intelligence and we used to do kind of like a fun thing on the weekends where we would do like debates and we would force each other to take like the opposite opinion and I was talking to this guy and I heard my own argument coming from his mouth and as I heard it | ||
| Like, something just clicked in me, and I saw it as, like, and I'm not saying anyone is evil, but like, the argument and the mindset in itself is evil. | ||
| And it was, you know, like, who can say when life begins? | ||
| So what does it matter? | ||
| You know, why not just, you know, like, do you know when life begins? | ||
| And so my question for you is, is like, for me, my epiphany in that moment was like, If I can't say when life begins, why would I possibly take the chance of killing a child? | ||
| And, like, being someone that grew up taking care of my little brothers and stuff like that, and being, you know, in the military and stuff, you protect. | ||
| That's what a man does, you know? | ||
| And it completely changed, in that moment, it absolutely changed my mind and how I view it. | ||
| And I was just wondering, does that argument make any sense to you? | ||
| Well, I don't argue that it's not alive. | ||
| Like, sperm and egg are both alive. | ||
| And I just don't think it's a human when it's in zygote form. | ||
| That's about nine days. | ||
| Takes a while for it to start to develop into what we consider human. | ||
| And like, yeah, not all life is sacred. | ||
| Well, you were in the military. | ||
| There's a time and a place for life. | ||
| There's a time and a place for destruction of life, to consume it, to survive. | ||
| You eat animal. | ||
| You destroy plants. | ||
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Whoa! | |
| Hold on here. | ||
| Let me finish. | ||
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Sorry. | |
| I got you. | ||
| Sorry, I made it a minute. | ||
| I'm sorry, what? | ||
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Oh, I was saying, I understand that argument, it seems a little, kind of, somewhat misplaced. | |
| I understand, like, I took fire, friends of mine were buried, you know, and I returned fire. | ||
| And I never blamed a lot of the people, some of them, that were doing it because, like, they didn't really have a choice, right? | ||
| And if I was them, I'd be doing the same thing. | ||
| But it still doesn't mean I wouldn't, there is right and wrong, I'm gonna protect the people around me, and I'll do what I have to do. | ||
| But, As someone that recently, I never thought I would have kids. | ||
| I'm 37, I was single, and then I met my wife and I kind of couldn't take the chance to like, have it. | ||
| To like, just do the jump. | ||
| And now she's like, the best thing that ever happened to me, I just had to let go of like... And we have a kid that's 5 months old, and I can tell you, every step of the way, there's no freaking question. | ||
| Like, every step of the way. | ||
| That, like, this is life. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| And I understand. | ||
| We all have our own way of looking at things, and we have our own experiences. | ||
| For me, if I'm looking at it, like I said, it's just like, why would I take the chance? | ||
| Even if you'd, like, you just don't think it's life at all. | ||
| Like, at inception. | ||
| No, it is alive when it's a sperm and an egg. | ||
| It's not a human at inception. | ||
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But is there a chance that it is? | |
| And if there is, why would you allow it? | ||
| I mean, it's a zyko, it's not a human. | ||
| I'm very pro-life, and that's why I'm obsessed with revolutionizing our energy grid. | ||
| People that say they're pro-life, but they don't talk about actually fortifying our electrical system, but the virtue signal about what some woman over there has to do, you want to protect her? | ||
| You want to protect life? | ||
| Protect the woman. | ||
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What part did you want to respond with? | |
| I just have a problem with that because that is just changing the subject. | ||
| What subject? | ||
| When you said no, if you're pro-life and you change, you're changing the subject. | ||
| Yeah, but they don't think it's murder. | ||
| We talked about this last night for like an hour. | ||
| No, but the point that I'm making is I have a problem with saying that because you're changing the subject to avoid the conversation. | ||
| The point that he's making is it's life. | ||
| And the stuff that you're saying, like when you're like, it's not a zygote, it's not a human life, it's human DNA. | ||
| Like, I get what you're saying about being like, you know, or I understand why people could be pro-choice and stuff, but I just feel like... Well, let's try this. | ||
| Ian, what's a human? | ||
| There's a meme. | ||
| I'll answer your question, but there's a meme of, protect the baby in the womb, protect it, protect it, protect it, and then as soon as the baby's born, you're on your own, kid. | ||
| That's a meme about the right-wing conservative movement. | ||
| That's not real. | ||
| That's not true. | ||
| That's a lie from leftists. | ||
| They don't want social services to protect the single mother. | ||
| Social services don't protect families. | ||
| They cause poverty and fatherlessness. | ||
| That's the argument that's made. | ||
| But in the womb. | ||
| What's a human? | ||
| The idea that the only solution for helping a baby is for the government to take money from other people and then put kids in state institutions makes no sense. | ||
| But anyway, define human so we can figure this one out. | ||
| I'll go with the definition in the dictionary. | ||
| I'd read it. | ||
| Look it up and read it if you want. | ||
| Do you know what it is? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's an animal from the hominid. | ||
| Homo sapien. | ||
| How technical do you want to get? | ||
| You said a zygote is not a human, so I'm asking you what you think a human is. | ||
| It's an evolved hominid. | ||
| The most evolved hominid that we know of. | ||
| A member of the primate genus Homo. | ||
| Especially a member of the species Homo sapiens. | ||
| Distinguished from other apes by a large brain and capacity for speech. | ||
| A person. | ||
| Large brain. | ||
| So, no, those little things in the womb don't have large brains. | ||
| Distinguished body. | ||
| That's what it said. | ||
| Distinguished body. | ||
| Compared to the size of its body, Ian. | ||
| That's not what that says, does it? | ||
| I mean, what? | ||
| what? So my question is, like a dog, like a turtle and an egg, isn't a turtle? Because | ||
| a turtle is defined as like an amphibious reptilian, an aquatic reptilian with two arms, | ||
| two legs, and it retracts into a shell. | ||
| So if the turtle is in the egg, it's not actually a turtle, it's something else. | ||
| If a turtle is in an egg, it's a turtle, because it's a turtle in an egg. | ||
| If it's a zygote in an egg, it's not a turtle yet. | ||
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Ian, I feel like you're playing Schrodinger's cat with life. | |
| No, I think you're making excuses to justify a nonsensical position. | ||
| No, I think people are insane if they look at a zygote and say it's a human. | ||
| They're fucking insane. | ||
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Well, what else would it be? | |
| Like, if you leave it alone, it is definitely going to become a human. | ||
| So why can't it be a human? | ||
| A baby born with no arms and no legs is a human. | ||
| It's not going to be a refrigerator. | ||
| It might not survive at all. | ||
| A baby born with no arms and no legs is a human. | ||
| Yeah, but a baby can't survive outside the womb. | ||
| A baby born with no arms and no legs is a human. | ||
| Without him? | ||
| It is. | ||
| But humans have two arms and two legs, and this thing doesn't. | ||
| No, I don't think that's part of the definition. | ||
| You can have deformities and shit and still be a human. | ||
| So, then what defines a human? | ||
| Phil just read the definition. | ||
| Large brain, hominid species, homosexual. | ||
| A baby born with a diminished brain. | ||
| Not human? | ||
| Ian, when you say large brain, I want to point this out. | ||
| Ian needs to answer this. | ||
| There have been babies born with diminished brains. | ||
| If they're human babies born with deformities, then they're human. | ||
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But there's no brain. | |
| They're probably still human, like, partway through. | ||
| I believe they become human at some point along the gestation process. | ||
| But if it doesn't have a large brain, you're saying it's not human? | ||
| When do you think they start to feel pain? | ||
| If it doesn't have a large brain, you think it's not human? | ||
| I don't know, I'd have to look into the science. | ||
| Is that what you're saying? | ||
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No. | |
| But you just said a human is defined as having a large brain, right? | ||
| Yeah, it's part of Phil's definition. | ||
| Okay, so if a baby is born but it does not have a brain, is it human? | ||
| If it has no brain, it's not a human. | ||
| It's not a human. | ||
| It's a husk of a meat sack if it has no brain. | ||
| These things exist, you know, right? | ||
| There are babies that are born without brains. | ||
| Yeah, I would not consider that a human, dude. | ||
| And they have a cerebellum, which regulates the involuntary processes. | ||
| So then, the question then becomes, do you think, so the question then becomes, do you think the physical mass of the brain or the conscious entity defines a human? | ||
| I think both. | ||
| And if, so if someone's body dies, they're no longer a human. | ||
| So here's the issue. | ||
| The issue I take is not whether or not you're right or wrong, it's that you're not making any logic at all. | ||
| Pull us a picture of a zygote. | ||
| And I'll explain. | ||
| Do that for me. | ||
| A baby born with nothing but a cerebellum can regulate its involuntary functions. | ||
| It can breathe, and it has a heartbeat, and its eyes move around. | ||
| But it doesn't have higher functions. | ||
| You say that's clearly not a human. | ||
| You said no brain. | ||
| It's not a baby born with a cerebellum. | ||
| That's part of the brain. | ||
| That means they have a brain. | ||
| So I did say babies with a cerebellum can regulate. | ||
| So, okay, so that is a human then? | ||
| Yeah, sounds like it, yeah. | ||
| So it has a small, so it's not a large brain though? | ||
| But you said a large brain. | ||
| That's what Phil read. | ||
| Okay, so do you agree it's a large brain or just some component of the brain? | ||
| I mean, I think his point of it being relative to body mass, is that what you were... Well, the point is, like, when it says large brain, like, your brain is not large compared to the sun. | ||
| And that was the comparison you made earlier. | ||
| Yeah, but those zygotes don't have brains. | ||
| No, but it's not taught... The zygotes are... They're building the brain. | ||
| It's a diploid self-construction. | ||
| It is building the brain. | ||
| It is becoming a human... It is becoming a person. | ||
| But so is the sperm before it impregnates the egg. | ||
| Like, what's the fucking... | ||
| How esoteric do you want to get? | ||
| It's DNA, man. | ||
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That's a good way to define it. | |
| So as soon as the sperm fertilizes the egg, that's new DNA, independent from the DNA from the father and the mother. | ||
| That's a human being. | ||
| That's a new human being. | ||
| That's a leap of logic to say that it's mother DNA, father DNA, therefore it's a human. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| Mother DNA, father DNA, third, new DNA. | ||
| Yes, that doesn't mean it's human. | ||
| That means it's human. | ||
| That's human DNA! | ||
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Can I just say that I hate this fucking debate so much. | |
| Here's the issue. | ||
| There's a very simple and clear definition of human. | ||
| And it pertains to what Phil described. | ||
| A unique set of DNA of the hominid, whatever you want to call it, homo sapien order. | ||
| Your definition makes no sense. | ||
| And I'm not saying you are wrong about abortion, I'm saying, when you say, a zygote is not a human, and I say, what's a human? | ||
| You say, I don't know! | ||
| I go, okay, then how the fuck are you defining zygote? | ||
| Well, a human has a brain, it has a fucking heart, it has fingers. | ||
| So, if a human is born with no brain, and they're, okay. | ||
| I already answered this question, it's not human if it doesn't have a brain, dude. | ||
| So then, so then what makes a human who is a full adult? | ||
| Consciousness. | ||
| Okay, so when someone goes into coma, they're not human anymore. | ||
| Yes, they're human and in a coma. | ||
| But they don't have a brain and no consciousness! | ||
| If they have no brain, then they're no longer fucking human. | ||
| What about when you go to sleep and you're not conscious? | ||
| You're still a human. | ||
| You're a sleeping human. | ||
| But you just said that if you don't have consciousness, that's part of the definition of being human. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| There are babies born with what they describe as not having a brain. | ||
| And it has a brain stem which can regulate involuntary functions. | ||
| You are saying that is not human. | ||
| If it has a brain, cerebellum. | ||
| Is that your point? | ||
| Talking about brainstem cerebellum? | ||
| A brainstem, not a brain. | ||
| Like, what do they have? | ||
| You pull it up. | ||
| Let's define it. | ||
| Let's look into it. | ||
| I fucking hate this debate so bad. | ||
| Me too, man. | ||
| People, they look at a fucking die plate cell and they're like, that's a human! | ||
| I'm like, what in the fuck world has this come to? | ||
| Anencephaly. | ||
| A serious birth defect in which a baby is born without parts of the brain installed. | ||
| Okay, they still have some brain. | ||
| That's still human. | ||
| If you have no brain, you're dead. | ||
| You're not! | ||
| There are many babies that are born- Maybe they can pump blood through a piece of meat, but what the fuck? | ||
| Okay, I'll just simplify this and we'll wrap it up. | ||
| Yeah, humans are still humans. | ||
| Phil has a very simple definition. | ||
| A new set of DNA of the genus whatever, homo sapien, etc. | ||
| It's human DNA. | ||
| Okay, and there is a living structure that is growing. | ||
| Ian, your definition is just a bunch of random hodgepodge that doesn't make any sense. | ||
| Dude, high intelligence, bipedalism, hairlessness. | ||
| These zygotes don't have that shit. | ||
| Neither do people with alopecia. | ||
| Neither do people with serious birth defects. | ||
| You cannot define human based on anomalous developments within the human race, and you cannot define human based on chosen characteristics that you deem worthy. | ||
| I'm pulling from the definition. | ||
| Cognitive skills that enable them to thrive. | ||
| Cognitive skills. | ||
| Psychics don't have those yet. | ||
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I mean, it's a developing human that will have all of those things. | |
| We already talked about chimeras. | ||
| You can take a male and a female and fucking tweak the genes in her little zygote and turn it into a non-human. | ||
| If you can kill a zygote, and Ian, the problem with your worldview is that if you can kill a zygote, you can kill a retard. | ||
| That's a horrible thing to say. | ||
| Yeah, well, that's your fucking belief. | ||
| No, it's not. | ||
| Yes, it is. | ||
| No, it's not. | ||
| You sit here and said that a baby born with encephalitis is not a human. | ||
| No, you said a baby born without a brain. | ||
| Ian, you're qualifying who gets to You're making qualifiers as to who is and is not a human, and you're still talking about human beings, human DNA, human children. | ||
| All of the things that you're talking about come from humans. | ||
| They're all biological matter that comes from human beings. | ||
| They all have chromosomes. | ||
| They all have DNA. | ||
| They're all things that come from humans. | ||
| Why don't you all just be a little more responsible with who you have sex with? | ||
| The issue that I'm looking to answer is the question of human rights and when does the government have the right to determine someone does or does not have rights. | ||
| So that's why we need to have a very clear set definition. | ||
| This is not an argument about abortion in any capacity. | ||
| Life begins at conception. | ||
| That's when a unique set of human DNA is created and begins to grow. | ||
| It doesn't matter if you can think, feel, smell, fart, shit, or otherwise, because there are some people who can't, some people who can. | ||
| There are some people who can jump real high, some people who can't jump. | ||
| Some people are born and they're fucking retarded, some people are super smart, some people have no legs, some people have heads. | ||
| We don't define what grants you human rights based on if you were born with the right amount of arms, eyes, ears, face, or otherwise. | ||
| So, what I say is, Looking at the issue of abortion, because it's where it arises, my position is simple. | ||
| The government does not have the right to mandate one person provide their body to another. | ||
| End of story. | ||
| Now, in the event that a woman grants a man the right to inseminate her, resulting in another human now being attached to her body, that was a choice she made to allow that, and now she is obligated to not terminate because she welcomed that in. | ||
| In the instance of rape, I believe the government has no authority to mandate a woman carry the baby. | ||
| Even though the baby is a unique human life that does have human rights, as defined by 30 states, which, if you kill the woman and the baby dies, it's a double homicide. | ||
| To say something like, whether you're smart, or have a brain, or have arms, or are bipedal, that's what makes you human, is the justification for eugenics and genocide. | ||
| Yeah, that's a big problem is when you're when you're making a qualifier about this person This isn't a person and that is a person and this this you know entity doesn't qualify because they don't have these arbitrary Features or whatever they don't like all of that stuff. | ||
| That's the same kind of idea that justified Killing off thousands and or tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of people in Nazi Germany. | ||
| It's it's it is saying that these entities do not I'm not gonna say you're wrong. | ||
| And once you start doing that is like, well, you know, the zygotes don't, | ||
| and then the people that are mentally deficient don't, and then the people that are blah, blah, blah, | ||
| that's all eugenics. | ||
| It's all, it all leads down to a path of devaluing human life, all of it. | ||
| I'm not gonna say you're wrong. | ||
| I don't know if you're right or if you're wrong, but killing a zygote that early in the process of pregnancy, | ||
| two days, a day after the impregnation is vastly different than eugenics. | ||
| No, it's not. | ||
| I mean, if a woman wants to terminate a one-day-old zygote, Look, I'm pro-choice up to the end of the first trimester, but my issue right now is the way you're articulating it. | ||
| Because like I said, I'm pro-choice up to the end of the first trimester. | ||
| I think that the fetus is not cognizant yet, it doesn't experience the way that a developed human being experiences. | ||
| The fetus is not viable at like, you know, 10 weeks or whatever. | ||
| So that's where you can have a reasonable, in my opinion, where you can reasonably say this is moral to end the term. | ||
| We definitely got to get these other callers. | ||
| So Larkin, thanks for calling in. | ||
| Oh shit, we got a call out this whole time, I forgot. | ||
| Thanks for getting me out of it. | ||
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One thing, I do homesteading and I would look into miniature cattle, | |
| because 40% of the feed you get 70% of the beef, and instead of 7 gallons a day, you get about a gallon, | ||
| gallon and a half. | ||
| Cool. | ||
| Thanks for calling in. | ||
| See you, man. | ||
| It's far more manageable. | ||
| Now for everybody else has been patiently waiting. | ||
| We have Mion Plan B. Welcome to the show. | ||
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Fitting. | |
| Great. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
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Hey guys, thanks for having me on. | |
| Uh, Mion, I'm very glad that your mother was pro-life. | ||
| It's good to have you on the planet, buddy. | ||
| She's pro-choice. | ||
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My question is for the panel, and I'm in emerging technologies and wanted to ask what everybody thought about the idea of if we were able to get off an oil economy into something else, something other than electric, how do you think that would change the political equation? | |
| But what do you mean, something other than electric? | ||
| Like steam-powered cars? | ||
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Well, like, for instance, no, um, the project I'm working on would be the first hydrocarbon that could go toe-to-toe with electric cars in California. | |
| Oh, okay, like an alternate fuel. | ||
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Something similar to, like, Porsche. | |
| Yeah, like the Porsche's e-fuel would be similar to it. | ||
| If we could make an engine that could run gasoline and hydrogen. | ||
| Did he bring up getting off the OPEC dollar, too, is that what he said? | ||
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Well, I'm thinking in terms of the subject line of the game of money, because they were talking about the petrodollar. | |
| Yeah, I thought he brought up the petrodollar in the beginning. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, that'd be really interesting. | ||
| I think it's probably one of the reasons why the U.S. | ||
| does not want alternate forms of energy because of the petrodollar. | ||
| The LPEC, yeah. | ||
| I'm working with an economist on this for my campaign who's come up with this Great scheme of he's he's mapped it all out. | ||
| It would only take 40 Gen 4 Reactors to power the entire country nuclear reactor. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Wow small. | ||
| They're very safe They have a way to burn all the waste very easily and actually turn it back in Is he talking thorium or is he talking? | ||
| I think I think it's plutonium but anyways, he's come up with a way something that he calls the kilowatt dollar and And essentially the way this would work is we'd be making, first of all our energy would be pennies on the dollar, but this energy would be so abundant that we could actually put them in batteries and sell battery banks to other countries and our dollar would be backed off that, what he calls a kilowatt dollar. | ||
| Those nuclear waste batteries are pretty cool. | ||
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Right, but the problem is the storage. | |
| When it comes to vehicles you can't get the energy density high enough. | ||
| Right, in a vehicle. | ||
| Solid state batteries? | ||
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Actually, mechanical storage is probably one of the better options. | |
| For instance, the fuel I'm working on would be a green fuel that would be three to five times more efficient than gas or diesel with a similar energy density. | ||
| Have you guys seen air batteries? | ||
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I've seen them at airports and train stations. | |
| How do they work? | ||
| You compress air into a liquid and then you can release it later to spin a turbine. | ||
| Oh, it just evaporates as soon as you expose it to the pressure density? | ||
| As soon as you release the valve, the pressure forces the air out at a slow rate. | ||
| Does it just take a lot of energy to compress it? | ||
| It takes, uh, so the idea is that they would use solar power or some, uh, uh, I forgot what they called it, but there's ways to actually manipulate atmospheric energy to store the energy, to induce the compression, and then store liquid air. | ||
| And then they use the release of liquid air as it rapidly cools. | ||
| I think that's what it is. | ||
| It rapidly cools as the gas is being released, which spins a turbine. | ||
| Causes, you know, another effect that they, like, they found a way to, there's like a really great little mini video I watched explaining how they do air compression batteries. | ||
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That pressure change probably generates heat, too. | |
| At least a little bit. | ||
| The pressure change absorbs heat. | ||
| Oh, does it? | ||
| The liquefied air has to absorb ambient energy. | ||
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The heat is taken care of when you compress it. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, right, right, that's what it is. | ||
| When it's being compressed, the heat comes out. | ||
| They use that heat for one process. | ||
| Yeah, it's a crazy, crazy way to store energy, but it's brilliant. | ||
| Question for you, me on plan B. | ||
| Oh, I got it. | ||
| I remember. | ||
| They were talking about how to store energy for solar. | ||
| And they said what would happen is that if the grid was ever at peak capacity, excess solar would compress air into liquid air tanks. | ||
| Did you see the tweet that I pinned on my Twitter profile? | ||
| It's James Tour from Rice University talking about how they're converting, I think it's methane, into hydrogen fuel. | ||
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Unfortunately, Unfortunately, unless your Twitter comes across my Gmail, I don't see it. | |
| I tried to talk to you about gravity about two years ago. | ||
| Yeah, check out James tours breakthrough with hydrogen fuel because they're able to flash like, like carbon based like plastics and stuff and get Oh, I Yeah, and the stuff that I've been working on, they've had viable hydrogen cells ready to go. | ||
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Yeah, but the people that had held the patterns would not work with the Big three. | |
| My mom's a true investor. | ||
| We got to jump to these other callers. | ||
| Is there anything else you wanted to wrap up on? | ||
| Thanks for your time guys. | ||
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We already talked about pizza, so I ain't worried. | |
| Yeah, Giordano's or Gino's. | ||
| Oh, I've never had either one. | ||
| Patrick from Ohio. | ||
| Oh, come on. | ||
| Chicago deep dish. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| It's so much cheese. | ||
| Oh, you know, I did have Gino's while I was there in Chicago. | ||
| That's good. | ||
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There you go. | |
| Right. | ||
| Patrick, what's up? | ||
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Nothing much. | |
| How are you guys doing? | ||
| Pretty good. | ||
| Chilling. | ||
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Thanks for taking my question. | |
| Absolutely. | ||
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For Joshua Smith, I wanted to talk about his candidacy for libertarian president. | |
| I typically vote Libertarian, and in 2016, my 90-year-old grandmother and myself also voted for Gary Johnson. | ||
| So we had a span of quite a few years between the 30-some-odd-old me and my 90-year-old grandmother. | ||
| So what's your strategy to unite these generations and gain their votes to break that 5% target? | ||
| Quick question. | ||
| Well, I think that we brought it up in the original show, but we've got to fight the culture war. | ||
| I think it's really, really important that we're a brazen, brash, brave, principled campaign and not one that just kind of capitulates on principle to try and win over the Republicans and Democrats. | ||
| I think, unfortunately, Like I said in my campaign video at the top of my Twitter if you check it out. | ||
| A very large percentage of people in the United States did not vote for a presidential candidate in 2020 or 2016. | ||
| We're talking one year it was more than half, one year it was around half. | ||
| And we had to find a way to ignite those people, because we're not going to get the sycophants from the Republicans. | ||
| Yeah, we're not going to get the sycophants from the Republicans and the Democrats. | ||
| So really, you know, I think that five is a low, I think for me it's a low goal. | ||
| I want ten. | ||
| But I think 5 is an attainable goal for the Libertarian. | ||
| Like I said, it changes the political landscape in the United States. | ||
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How do you convince Democrats, or maybe moderate Democrats, to vote Libertarian? | |
| You don't. | ||
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You think there's no way? | |
| You think it's an absolute losing battle? | ||
| They'll never vote Libertarian. | ||
| Yeah, what do you mean? | ||
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I think that you gotta try somehow. | |
| Well, that's what Chase Oliver is doing right now, the other candidate from Atlanta who's all about like, oh yeah, no, dude, it's totally fine to bring your kids to these gay men shaking their butts in the street stuff. | ||
| Wait, the other Libertarian candidate is doing that? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Holy fuck. | ||
| There are progressives in the Libertarian Party. | ||
| Spike also supported it when he was running for Vice President. | ||
| He has recanted though because there was stuff that he wasn't aware of. | ||
| Jorgen Cern said it's not enough to not be racist when we must be. | ||
| And I thought it was really funny the Libertarian Party telling me what I must do. | ||
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No, no, I'll say this. | |
| I'm not going after the Democrats because, listen, the Democrats would put all Libertarians up against the wall if they got the opportunity. | ||
| Hands down. | ||
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100%. | |
| I'm not a stupid Libertarian. | ||
| I'm not an idealistic Libertarian. | ||
| I know who our base is. | ||
| And I'm going after our base. | ||
| I'm trying to get them fired up on the ideas of Ron Paul, basically. | ||
| It's the Ron Paul revolution and I'm trying to revive it. | ||
| That's really what it is. | ||
| And if you're not going to do that, don't run as a Libertarian. | ||
| Run on. | ||
| Did you want to add any more, Patrick? | ||
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No, I just wanted to shout out that this Discord community is great, Tim. | |
| Thank you so much for getting this together. | ||
| We've had so many great conversations, and we're setting up so many events, and we're getting engagement left and right. | ||
| Right on. | ||
| So just remember, please check out the events, and try to participate in some of the After Dark and other shows. | ||
| There's a lot of people out here with great opinions. | ||
| Right on, man. | ||
| Thanks for calling in. | ||
| Hardcore. | ||
| All right, and last but not least, we got Rogue. | ||
| Roguez350, what up? | ||
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You're muted, Rogue. | |
| Hello, Rogue. | ||
| You're in stealth. | ||
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You have to unmute your mic. | |
| Rogue must have fallen asleep. | ||
| You took too long. | ||
| Oh, there you go. | ||
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Can you hear me? | |
| Yes, sir. | ||
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Okay, my emoji disappeared, so I thought I was off. | |
| Ruh-roh. | ||
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Thanks for taking my call, guys. | |
| Absolutely. | ||
| I'll try and make it quick. | ||
| So, I grew up thinking we should allow everybody to do what they're gonna do You know, we have freedom. | ||
| Allow them to do what they want to make their lives happy. | ||
| But it's gotten to the point where I think this country is pushing that so far that our morals are degrading to the point where it's pushing our society in a negative direction. | ||
| Where do we draw the line between allowing people to have freedom But also, you know, making them think of things that should cause a little bit of shame so that we keep our societal fabric together. | ||
| That's just how we keep on without. | ||
| Going into tyranny. | ||
| Well, that's just it. | ||
| It's freedom plus shame. | ||
| As Ron Paul said, abortion should not be illegal, it should be unthinkable. | ||
| So we can tell people you can do what you want, but if people find out, then you might as well leave town because no one's going to want to work with you or be near you or be around you. | ||
| And that's the cultural element of this. | ||
| The fact is our culture has been destroyed and completely evaporated. | ||
| That's why you have laws. | ||
| You wouldn't need laws if everyone agreed on the basic premise and rules of their civilization, but society gets really, really big, culture breaks down, and then people are forced into living next to each other because there's an overarching monopoly on violence that tells them what they can and can't do. | ||
| We gotta stop using the fucking term normalize. | ||
| Legitimately, please stop using that term. | ||
| We're not just in a culture war, we're also in a moral war. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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100%. | |
| And when we're like, oh, well, we just need to normalize sex work. | ||
| No, the fuck we don't. | ||
| There's no reason for it to be normalized. | ||
| There's a reason why it's not normal. | ||
| And here's the thing. | ||
| The only reason people advocate for normalizing sex work is because they want to do sex work. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| Or watch it. | ||
| Or they want an agent. | ||
| But if you eliminate sex work from the economy, then no one's advocating for it. | ||
| People who are engaged in sex work should have other means of generating income. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| It's a cultural problem. | ||
| OnlyFans. | ||
| Yeah, stop saying OnlyFans. | ||
| Stop fucking saying normalize. | ||
| Stop normalizing shit. | ||
| We don't have to normalize shit that's not supposed to be normal. | ||
| It can be legal, but shame the fuck out of them. | ||
| What about OnlyFans? | ||
| Shame them. | ||
| I shame every OnlyFans girl that comes across me. | ||
| Did you see my tweet? | ||
| Uh, was it about the CEO making a million a day? | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I wanted to talk about that because I didn't agree with it. | ||
| Well, so what really happened was I said to Fresh and Fit, you guys are complaining about women sleeping around tons of guys. | ||
| If you have a problem with it, then start shaming them. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But what happens is the leftists, because they're grifters, took the clip out of context, so it's me just saying, a guy pulls up in a Bugatti, he should look to the window and say, what's your body count? | ||
| And if she says, you know, what the fuck, fuck you, he says, fuck, I don't wanna hone my car. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| What I actually said was, why, I said, I literally said, you guys, why don't you do that? | ||
| They were like, women be sleeping with 50 guys, so guys gotta be prepared and sleep with 50 women. | ||
| And then I said, well, why don't you, as high value men, just shame the women then? | ||
| Right. | ||
| If that's your argument. | ||
| And they turned it into, so my response to them, because they're pieces of shit, was, all these, you know, people are saying, are mad at me for saying that you should slut shame, slut shame sluts. | ||
| Why the fuck would I care what these sluts think? | ||
| Proving a point. | ||
| They got so fucking angry about being called sluts. | ||
| One woman, she was like, Tim Paul's got a small dick! | ||
| And it's like, lady, clearly you're upset. | ||
| That you're a slut. | ||
| This is the issue. | ||
| If you come to me and you said, Tim, you're fucking bald. | ||
| I go, yes, that's true, I am. | ||
| I wear a beanie. | ||
| And they're gonna be like, yeah, well, you got nasty-ass fucked-up crooked teeth. | ||
| I'll be like, yeah, they've been crooked my whole life. | ||
| I'm actually genetically missing a tooth. | ||
| And they'll be like, well, fuck you! | ||
| I'm like, bro, you're not making me mad by saying things I know, but... | ||
| When you say women are sluts and they get really, really angry, it's because deep down there is shame in being a slut. | ||
| And they know it! | ||
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It's not that deep down. | |
| That's why the anger comes out so easily. | ||
| Very easily. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| It's because... I don't want to put shame back into the... Just do it! | ||
| Just shame people! | ||
| It's the same thing with being fat. | ||
| It's the same thing with morbid obesity. | ||
| There is a problem we all recognize with overt promiscuity, we can easily simplify, STDs, and overeating. | ||
| You die. | ||
| You get cancer, you get heart problems, you get high cholesterol, you die. | ||
| So people know they're doing something bad, but it feels good! | ||
| And you say, I am not going to sit here and compliment you as you fuck your life up and they get angry about it. | ||
| But when you shame and you want to introduce shame into our culture, you want to do it subversively because if it's an angry guy yelling at people, you're bad, you're wrong, they're going to reject it and get angry. | ||
| But if you put it in a movie where the villain has that ass attribute, you realize little kids will see it and they'll be like, I don't want to be like that. | ||
| But also tell your fat friends they're fat. | ||
| Shouldn't- isn't it better to articulate why it's a bad idea than to try to be subversive? | ||
| Because like subversive implies not letting people know what you're doing. | ||
| Ian's only wrong on the first half. | ||
| It's true about our cultural- our films, our music, and our movies are influencing children. | ||
| Subversively, that's what I meant. | ||
| And it is more effective to have a villain be like, I'm going to destroy the world and have tons of sex while | ||
| eating Krispy Kremes! | ||
| I don't want to be like that. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| But also, I think it is good to literally say something like, hey, I'm not interested in working with you because you're a prostitute. | ||
| By all means, you go do your thing and live how you want to live. | ||
| I will have no part in it. | ||
| Personally, I have way, way more of a problem with the sloots than with prostitutes. | ||
| If you're just giving it away and you're banging dudes, those are the ones that are spreading diseases. | ||
| Those are the ones that are out there ruining people's lives. | ||
| If you're actually a sex worker, do your thing, get your bag. | ||
| If you're a sloot, just tossing it around, then you should probably put a dime in between your knees and keep it. | ||
| But did you always feel like that as a rock star? | ||
| I don't know a lot about you personally, you don't have to talk about it, but did you fuck tons of chicks? | ||
| Were you just like, whatever, let's just bang for 20 years? | ||
| So there was a time in my life when I was more adventurous? | ||
| Answer the question, Phil, come on, we know. | ||
| No one's going to believe that a rock star is passing it up. | ||
| There's a reason that I'm not big on the slut shaming and giving sex workers trash and blah blah blah. | ||
| Because I am in no position to actually judge someone else. | ||
| My life up until I quit drinking Was different. | ||
| So I'm in no position to be like, oh, that person's bad or blah, blah, blah, or cast judgment on someone. | ||
| Do your thing. | ||
| It is a good idea to practice monogamy and to try to date with intent. | ||
| Like if you're dating, it's a good idea to date with intent. | ||
| Like I get it. | ||
| There are people that are young that are going to go out and and, you know, they think it's a good idea to go party and stuff. | ||
| And fair enough, if you want, fine. | ||
| I don't think it's a problem, but I think that it's something that we should not And we should not, as a society, be like, this is how you want to live your life. | ||
| It is a problem. | ||
| As society... And, you know, like, growing up in Chicago... | ||
| My upbringing was fucking sex-positive liberal across the board. | ||
| Everyone's banging each other. | ||
| Everyone's doing crazy-ass shit. | ||
| Tons of drugs all over the place. | ||
| Obama was smoking crack and having gay sex. | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| And it's a problem that it got to this point where young people are like, it's totally fine if we go out and do this because now in Brooklyn you have super chlamydia. | ||
| Have you guys heard about super chlamydia? | ||
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No. | |
| Can't get rid of it. | ||
| Yeah, incurable. | ||
| Onion, garlic, red wine, you're gonna have to do some old school shit. | ||
| You're gonna have to go to the old school. | ||
| Like apparently the antibiotics aren't working anymore. | ||
| Because what's happening is, these people in Williamsburg, in Brooklyn, they'll have sex, get it, spread it to somebody else. | ||
| Then one guy goes, fuck, my dick hurts. | ||
| He goes to the doctor and the doctor says, take this medication, don't have sex, Until you've completely finished it, and then you come back and get tested again to make sure it's gone. | ||
| And they go, you got it, doc! | ||
| And then once they got halfway through whatever their bottle or whatever their prescription is, they start banging again, and now it's a more resistant strain that's spreading. | ||
| It's literally super fucking chlamydia spreading. | ||
| That's a problem. | ||
| This guy James Tuer, the scientist, this graphene scientist, talks about that. | ||
| He talks about his fear of antibiotic-resistant viruses as one of the biggest threats to humanity. | ||
| Well, we already have bacterias that are I'm gonna have to put a hard stop in. | ||
| Rogue, did you want to do any final thoughts because we're way over? | ||
| I don't know if you're a fan of or know much about them, but if you would check out 21 Pilots lore from their second album on. | ||
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up in Rogue, did you want to do any final thoughts because we're way over? | |
| It's fairly relevant to our times today. | ||
| It's called Lower? | ||
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I know what he's talking about. | |
| I can remind you later. | ||
| It's very relevant to everything that's going on today. | ||
| And they've been writing this for 10 years. | ||
| Awesome. | ||
| Right on, man. | ||
| Thanks for calling in. | ||
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Thanks for all, guys. | |
| All right. | ||
| That was a fun one, huh? | ||
| Josh, thanks for hanging out. | ||
| It's been a blast. | ||
| Yeah, of course, man. | ||
| I had a good time, too. | ||
| I didn't tell people about my show earlier, but I do have a show called Break the Cycle with Joshua Smith, if anybody ever wants to check it out. | ||
| We're live on Thursday evenings. | ||
| When will we know if you're the candidate? | ||
| May of next year is our nominating convention. | ||
| I've got a lot of time. | ||
| Where do people see your show? | ||
| On YouTube. | ||
| If you look up youtube.com backslash fight the death spots it'll take you right to my show. | ||
| But we're also on Rumble and Odyssey and BitChute and some other ones too. | ||
| Right on, man. | ||
| Thanks for hanging out. | ||
| It's been a blast. | ||
| No, I had a blast. | ||
| Thanks for having me. | ||
| And thank you guys for being members and keeping this thing going. | ||
| And it's so cool what you guys are doing in the Discord server and building it up and making a community. | ||
| It's the coolest show ever. |
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