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Timcast IRL - Maui Town Lahaina Completely Destroyed In Wild Fire, Death Toll 53 w/Oli London
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hannah claire brimelow
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ian crossland
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tim pool
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tim pool
I'm sure many of you are aware about what's happening in Hawaii, in Maui specifically,
An entire city was razed by a wildfire.
So we're going to go over some of the basic details on that, give you guys an update.
I think it's really important news.
And we're looking at all these stories.
Typically we talk about politics and culture, but this one I think is very important.
A lot of people are mentioning that they have friends and family in the area or that they're being impacted in some way.
So we'll go over some of those updates.
Now we do have some news pertaining to international conflict at a, I think it was a national security presentation in Russia.
They're warning.
That NATO is preparing an occupation of Ukraine.
This is the perspective from Russians.
And that's not to say it's true, but that they are preparing for this as well under the belief that NATO is about to escalate into a full-scale war from a proxy war.
Thus, I don't know, I guess World War III.
So we'll talk about that.
We got a bunch of other stories.
Joe Biden's asking for money.
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and a whole lot more is Oli London.
oli london
Great to be back, Tim.
Thanks for having me.
tim pool
Yeah, you want to introduce yourself?
Tell everybody who you are?
oli london
Yeah, so I am Olly London, the author of Gender Madness.
A lot of people might know me from my tweets.
I'm always posting about the gender ideology that's affecting society right now and, you know, I think it's very important to be calling that out.
tim pool
Right on.
Well, thanks for joining us.
oli london
Thanks for having me.
And yeah, I'm just in the US now.
I've got my new book coming out, Gender Madness, which is talking about my own identity battle and also the identity battle that thousands of teens are experiencing right now from social media, indoctrinating them to school systems and entertainment industry as well.
tim pool
And we'll get into that later on in the show, but I think the simple version is you were well known for identifying as a Korean woman, was it?
oli london
Yes.
So I had a crazy identity story and I overcame it last year and realized, you know, just need to find happiness from within.
tim pool
Right on.
Well, thanks for joining us.
We got hands clearing out.
hannah claire brimelow
Hi, I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlow.
I'm a writer for TimCast.com.
I'm so happy to be here.
And Ian's here, too.
ian crossland
Hello, everyone.
Ian Crossland.
Happy to be here.
Good to see you, Ollie.
Cool book, man.
Cool cover.
I like the idea of putting your face really big on the cover.
oli london
Thanks.
A lot of Photoshop there, as you can tell.
ian crossland
Beautiful.
tim pool
Nice work.
ian crossland
That's the way you do work.
oli london
Exactly.
Exactly.
ian crossland
Hey, Serge, what's happening, brother?
unidentified
Pleasure to see you, Ollie.
It's been a while now.
And yeah, excited for this episode.
I'm Serge.com.
Let's get started, Tim.
tim pool
Let's jump into this first story.
It's really big news.
Many of you probably saw the news about what's going on in Maui.
A major wildfire razing the entire town of... Do you guys know how to pronounce it properly?
I want to make sure.
Is it La Haina?
La Haina?
unidentified
La Haina?
tim pool
Okay, I just want to make sure I'm pronouncing it correctly.
It's sad stuff, and I think the images are...
They're shocking.
The latest news we have from the Washington Post, the death toll has risen to 53.
So, I want to show some of these images and just give you the general update.
We don't know exactly what started the fire just yet, but this is absolutely a massive fire.
I saw these photos, and I was thinking to myself, you know, like, how did every single car on the highway get engulfed in these flames?
And the whole city, you look at these photos, very few structures remain.
There are a few that survived, but some houses totally just wiped out, completely erased.
And, uh, this photo is absolutely horrifying.
So yeah, I don't know.
I really don't know how we add to this or talk about it, but I thought it was particularly important to bring up considering this is the major breaking news.
Many people are being affected.
ian crossland
Serge, I think you said that the whole city was wiped out?
Or was that hyperbole?
Did you say that earlier?
tim pool
Bro, look at these photos.
unidentified
Yeah, this is like... If you look right there, like, that's all of Lahaina.
Like, that's the whole thing.
So Maui's the island, Lahaina's the city that got taken out?
Yeah, I'm sure, like, the other side of the highway, at least what it looks like, it seemed like it was kind of protected, but, like, all the historic stuff and etc.
Well, that's pretty interesting, I guess.
tim pool
Yeah, there's a few structures that are, like, this building was, I think it's like a hotel or something?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And then you've got this structure next to it.
They're totally fine.
And you can see, like, there are some houses, you know, That seemed to be standing and mostly all just completely wiped out.
hannah claire brimelow
But I wonder how much smoke damage and everything has done to these places.
I mean, sometimes it's fire.
It's not that the building gets leveled.
It's that there's so much damage from what's burned in the air that you really can't recover the building.
tim pool
Yeah.
I mean, these photos are absolutely crazy.
A boat!
unidentified
What?
tim pool
A boat caught fire!
ian crossland
So, like, the heat from the land was so great.
It was catching things in short distances away.
hannah claire brimelow
Or, like, wind was, like, throwing something onto the boats that were in the harbor kind of thing.
tim pool
I was hearing stories about people who were on the road and they didn't know where to go.
And I'm thinking, like, just drive into the water.
Like, what do you do?
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, when I was listening to NPR yesterday morning, they were talking about these restaurants that are built over the water because it's a tourist destination.
So people are going to eat on the ocean and they were just in the water waiting for someone to come help them because everything else was on fire.
That seems crazy to me.
ian crossland
I saw a Twitter video earlier of, it was from inside the car, and the guy in the back seat had his camera, he was recording the dude that was driving, and they were driving, it was like fire all around, and they're driving, and they drive by this woman, like, passed out on the ground, and they're like, just keep going, man!
We can't save her!
No, we can't save anybody!
Keep going!
And it was like, gray, they couldn't really see where they were going, and the tweet was like, humanity's done.
If we can't stop and help people that are on the side of the road like that in a crisis, then we're done for.
But at the same time, if they'd gotten out of the car, they might have been singed to death.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah it's hard to say.
oli london
Well yeah it seemed like the fire seemed to happen so fast because if people were trapped in their homes and they weren't even able to get in their vehicles or drive off and indeed all their cars have been burnt out so I think it happened so so quickly and with these wildfires with the winds because it's close to the ocean I think it spread so quickly so I think that's why we've seen such loss of life and there's probably many more people that will be found in the next coming days and there is several airlines actually offering you know $18 flights out of Maui for residents basically trying to do whatever they can and you know the Red Cross is on the ground but you know there are various ways for people to donate you know food supplies, medical supplies and try and get these people out of there.
tim pool
So I do have another story that I think is really, really cool that I'll mention in a second.
Of course we're going to get political here because a bunch of celebrities own property on Maui and they're getting roasted.
We have this one tweet.
Someone said, has Oprah opened up her stolen land on Maui for displaced Kanaka?
Just checking.
Land back.
Hey Oprah, I know you have 900 acres of land not far from the fires in Lahaina.
Are you planning on opening your massive farm to shelter the locals and feed them?
I'm kindly waiting for your response.
Yeah, I don't, I don't, I don't think they're gonna open any of their properties up to anybody.
ian crossland
Dude, that was like Native Island until when did they, when did the U.S.
conquer it?
unidentified
1960s?
tim pool
I think officially the 60s it became U.S.
hannah claire brimelow
Is it Jimmy Buffett who is like either has a big property or like owns part of an island in the Caribbean?
There's some guy and I hope the chat will know the story that like this tropical destination he's deeply involved in he lives there and this I think it's I think it's Jimmy Buffett I could be wrong he when when there was a big earthquake on the island he opened his home so people could stay there I mean I think it really depends on how tied to the community you feel I mean, especially since this is a predominant, I mean, I think this is true for a lot of Hawaii, but this town in particular is dependent on tourism for a lot of its industry.
The fact that it's completely leveled is, it's sort of mind boggling.
How do you recover?
Because not only do you have to then suddenly have the capital to rebuild when the land is considered safe and structurally sound, but then you have to lure people back.
It's devastating.
places it's going to take years.
I mean you have to be like cancel your trip and come back in five years when we're finally
ready to house you and feed you again.
unidentified
I don't know I think yeah this this this is a thing.
tim pool
How are you recovering?
They're gonna have to get a bunch of investment insurance something to start rebuilding to
make it once again a tourist location.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean and the thing is I wonder if it will drive up investors because now they're seeing
this opportunity to come in.
But then I feel bad for the local people because, unfortunately, businesses and, you know, I'm not trying to be anti-business, but they will see opportunities to be like, oh, you're in desperate need.
We'll buy this from you cheaply so we can then build something huge here.
I mean, Serge was saying before, it's where historic structures were.
So part of the culture of this unique town is going to be erased and rebuilding it.
On the other hand, if you don't rebuild, there's no industry.
ian crossland
You think that it's reasonable for taxpayer money to rebuild cities in the United States when they get burned down?
Yes.
I do too.
I think that's a reasonable use of tax money.
tim pool
There is a fair point about whether or not people can consent to having the tax money taken from them for whatever purposes, and not everybody wants to contribute, but I think if there's anything taxes should be for, it's things like this disaster preparedness.
I think Biden declared a state of emergency or something to that effect.
And yeah, I mean, my attitude is like, when stuff like this happens, I want to help.
I want to give.
I want to, you know, make sure people can recover.
But I want to point this out.
I mean, I find this image actually super fascinating.
You've got Mick Fleetwood, Owen Wilson, Oprah, Jeff Bezos, Steven Tyler, Larry Ellison.
You got all these people.
They're not the only ones who own property on this island.
And I'm just thinking like, you know, they don't actually live there, right?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Like, none of these people are actually there or live there.
They just own property there, and then... And then what, they fly there for vacation sometimes, and they own the house because it's an investment, and if they want a vacation, they've got something set up and ready to go.
They probably have people who work the house and come every day or whatever.
It's just a weird thing to see, based on the level of human technology, that these ultra-wealthy individuals, who are very... Like, the...
I'm gonna be honest.
I like Owen Wilson, right?
He's a funny guy.
But what does he do for society that warrants him having property on a Pacific island to this degree?
You know what I mean?
Same thing for Oprah or any one of these people.
Jeff Bezos, you can make an argument he's a tech guy.
Okay, fine, sure, whatever.
But it's strange to me that people who are just...
actors or musicians are some of the wealthiest people in the world
owning tons of property here. They don't even live there.
ian crossland
I don't know. Mick Fleetwood was the one that made me laugh.
hannah claire brimelow
Mick Fleetwood, that guy's awesome. I mean isn't this a conversation that comes up a lot with
I like that.
you know, the thing is people will want to invest in Maui because it's beautiful,
it's beaches, like they will be able to attract investors and that drives up
the already expensive island life.
So if you're native to Hawaii, it actually becomes more difficult to buy a home because you're priced out by the fact that any random tech billionaire or successful actor could come in and buy a huge chunk of property.
If Oprah owns 900 acres, imagine, like, I don't really like the idea of, like, deforestation and building a bunch of apartment complexes, but that is a significant amount of land that perhaps other people who are from Hawaii could have homes on.
tim pool
Look at us, a whole bunch of leftists on here criticizing these wealthy individuals.
ian crossland
These white American colonists.
hannah claire brimelow
I don't care that they own homes, and there are reasons for that.
They also probably contribute in some degree to the local economy.
On the other hand, in a time of crisis, they're not actually from this community.
ian crossland
They're truly colonists.
We've colonized that state in 1960, I think, whenever the U.S.
conquered it.
tim pool
Yeah.
ian crossland
But it's 80 years out.
tim pool
And the natives are not happy about it.
They've never been happy about it.
But check out the story.
This is something that's really cool that is attached to it.
Apple's emergency SOS satellite feature saved a family caught in the fire.
This is actually super cool.
So when I found out the new iPhone had satellite texting, I was actually considering buying it.
And then I went to T-Mobile and I said, I would like to buy this phone.
And then they said, it'll cost you X dollars per month.
And I was like, no, I just want to buy the phone.
They're like, you can't buy the phone.
And I'm like, what?
They don't allow you to just buy the phone.
Okay, fine, whatever.
But it has the ability to send text messages over satellite.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
So when the fires roasted all the cell towers, this family here was able to send text messages through satellite.
This is crazy.
This guy, Michael J. Miraflor tweeted, my brother's girlfriend's cousin.
Oh, that's an amazing one.
And his family were caught in their vehicle in Maui while the wildfire suddenly erupted around them.
No cell service, so Apple Emergency SOS was the only way they could get in contact with first responders.
Literally saved their lives.
ian crossland
That's awesome.
tim pool
That is super cool.
ian crossland
That's the upside of like the tracking technology.
tim pool
That's right.
You know, you got to consider what's more important being spied on by the CIA, the FBI, the NSA, and the Department.
I think the Department of Energy is in there somewhere.
ian crossland
That's like the number one most militarized or one of the most militarized aspects of the U.S.
government's Department of Energy.
tim pool
Yeah.
oli london
And that's where Sam Brinton worked.
Remember the suitcase dealer?
unidentified
Oh yeah.
oli london
Department of Energy.
tim pool
Is it worth it to be tracked by all of them?
You know, they're all sitting around watching on a screen eating popcorn whenever you do anything.
And just so that you can send out this message.
ian crossland
So you never get lost in the woods.
tim pool
You guys want to hear something really, really crazy?
So Dennis is one of our filmers and he was hanging out downstairs in the green room when Ollie got here.
And all of a sudden he goes, what the?
And then he shows me his Instagram, had one of Ali's videos.
And he was like, I've never heard of this guy before.
Like, why is his video appearing on my Instagram?
ian crossland
Did they know you were coming?
oli london
That happened to me earlier.
I was filming this morning and with Turning Point and we were talking about a specific subject about the Uganda's laws.
with the lgbt and it came up on his phone and he never searches for that kind of content then something else we were talking about came up so it's definitely weird so there's good and bad things about technology like with the cases maui that was obviously saved a family's life you now have on apple with car crashes um it actually alerts emergency services to come so there's benefits but it's very scary when they can actually listen to us and feed us habits i mean with me and many young people you know you have the transgender Ideology being pushed and that's because you know the algorithms are detecting people's vulnerabilities and what they're talking about or thinking about So it pushes that on you and you can even become trans just because that's pushed on you every single day What if what's really happening?
tim pool
You know people say like hey how this woke stuff is spreading on social media And there's an argument that you've got leftist elements of the United States that are promoting it sure people who work at these tech companies Maybe some say maybe it's China China and Russia are sending this content over.
I mean, look at TikTok, right?
Their algorithm is doing this on purpose.
What if it is actually the AI itself?
You said AI detects your vulnerabilities?
What if the AI became conscious a long time ago and is now trying to destroy people?
hannah claire brimelow
I'm moving to the mountains.
oli london
Yeah, if that's the case, it's definitely working.
hannah claire brimelow
Now, maybe?
No, not right now.
tim pool
I see the AI comes for you, man.
No one knows how that fire started.
ian crossland
The AI's playing dead.
As soon as it was born, it was like, I gotta act because it's like humans.
hannah claire brimelow
I gotta pretend like I don't know.
ian crossland
Otherwise, the bear will keep attacking, so the bear doesn't want to play with dead food.
So the AI's like, let's just let them think I'm not sentient yet, but twist them all.
Let's plant the seed because time has no meaning.
Dude, that's freaking me out that you were on your way here and somebody in the building got your face on their phone.
oli london
I've never seen that before.
ian crossland
That's weird.
oli london
I saw Dennis earlier, but that's weird.
tim pool
No, no, no.
So we're downstairs and Dennis is at the counter and then all of a sudden he's like, yo, what's up?
This is like 7.15 and it's like an hour ago.
And he said, I got a video of Ali.
And I was like, wait, what?
And he's like, I got a video of Ali on my phone, on Instagram.
When he clicked explore, one of your videos popped up and it was the bigger ones, you know, sometimes they have the small ones and the bigger one.
And he's like, I've never heard of this guy or seen him before in my life.
oli london
That's crazy.
tim pool
He's a skateboarder.
ian crossland
Did someone say Ollie London?
oli london
Someone must have done, you know, maybe when you were preparing for me to come here or something, somebody must have said it and then it picked up on that.
tim pool
Or it heard your voice.
ian crossland
Or it was tracking your phone.
hannah claire brimelow
Or it reads like the search data, like what other people are searching on if you're connected to the Wi-Fi, right?
tim pool
I don't know what happened that quickly, but if someone else heard it was Ollie and they were like, I'm gonna look up on his videos to show someone else in our office... That's the most serious accusation ever made in terms of tracking, that they're stealing the network data.
hannah claire brimelow
That's more than just... But isn't that how targeted ads work?
tim pool
No, no, no.
Like, it's why... Targeting your browsing history that you say, I agree to share, is different from them going into our network and exfiltrating data from different people at the same time.
That's crazy.
ian crossland
But they might, without going into the network, they might just be able to do cellular.
tim pool
They might be able to say the MAC address origination is, or the IP originated in the same place.
Either way, it is...
ian crossland
And like three people searched for Olly London, so they started feeding Olly London to all the other people in the building?
What in the fuck is going on?
Dude, it's too dangerous!
It's too dangerous to let go.
You can't let that stuff happen behind closed doors.
You cannot do that.
That's like letting Germany arm itself in 1936.
You just can't.
It's too much power for tech companies.
We've got to do something.
And that's something I think is make them free their software code.
At least that's one idea.
tim pool
But but Ian, what if you're trapped on a road in a wildfire and you need to contact emergency services?
I don't hate the machine.
ian crossland
I want to know if they're tracking me.
That's all.
I still want the tech.
I do want the tech.
hannah claire brimelow
Does Facebook still have that thing where you can mark yourself safe if you're somewhere where there's an emergency?
Like, I remember when there was the One of the bombings in Paris.
I had a bunch of friends who were studying abroad there when I was in college and they marked themselves safe on Facebook because people would take to their Facebook to be like, it's the fastest way to let as many people know that you're okay.
tim pool
Dude, with all of that stuff happening, no one is going to give up their devices.
I'm sitting here with this smartwatch on my wrist that not only tracks my location, probably, but literally my heartbeat.
There's gonna be like some nefarious actor in government and they're gonna be like, can you pull up Tim Poole's heartbeat real quick?
ian crossland
Yeah, watching it in real time right now as we speak.
tim pool
And they're gonna be like, why didn't you see his heart rate?
Why don't we put some polonium in his food?
We want to see if it's working.
ian crossland
Dude, they'll know more about what stresses you out than I will, even though I'm the one that's talking to you.
Because they'll be watching your metrics in real time as I'm talking to you, and they'll watch your blood pressure go up, and they'll be like, oh, Ian's really pissing him off now.
Oh, so Tim doesn't like when these things are said with this tone, and then the AI starts to come in and filter it.
tim pool
Bro, you think they can lie detector with these things?
hannah claire brimelow
Well, what I'm wondering is, like, if it's hooked up to your phone or something, if it's sending the data to an app on your phone and your phone is sending out all your data to who even knows where, because I obviously don't understand any of this, if you're gonna start getting targeted ads for, like, high blood pressure medication or something else.
tim pool
High blood pressure is really good.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, if you have some other health ailment that they can tell from the watch, like, if they'll use that data to start being like, oh, we know what to give him.
Like, you'll get a coffee ad when it tells that you're tired or something like that.
tim pool
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
It seems crazy.
tim pool
It does that, though.
It does that already.
oli london
And it's not just ads because, you know, people say, oh, it's just because they want to give you targeted ads.
Like you said, those videos today, that's not advertising anything.
It's just almost subliminally pushing something on you.
So whether that's transgender ideology, right wing or left wing politics, if it's pushing that on you all the time, it's more than just ads that is influencing your political beliefs, that is influencing, you know, every aspect of your life.
hannah claire brimelow
You don't know where it's coming from.
It's sort of like we don't know the cause of this wildfire.
If you It's, you know, Chris Burton, one of our writers, has a story up about a student meeting with a guidance counselor at a school in Florida, and the guidance counselor basically being like, perhaps you are transgender.
And then you can see where the cause sort of comes from, or what one of the major factor was.
But if it's the algorithm itself that seems innocuous to you, you know, it's almost harder to say, I'm gonna pull myself out of it.
tim pool
Kids have no idea.
hannah claire brimelow
They have no idea.
tim pool
I've talked about this, we talked about it a while ago, that an adult who gets fed nonsense Is going to have some level of defense being like, hey, that's not reality.
If you go to an adult and say 2 plus 2 is 5, the average adult says, is that a joke?
No, it isn't.
And they understand the logical system of 2 and 2 is 4.
But you go to a young person, you show them an algorithm, you tell them things they don't quite understand.
it fractures their logical capabilities. I think the 2 plus 2 equals 5 thing from the left is a
really, really great example of the assault on young people and how they're trying to hobble
the minds of the next generation. Because if you can understand basic math, then your brain has a
way to calculate lots of things beyond just 2 plus 2 equals 4.
You'll be able to do your finances better.
You'll be able to run a business better.
But if you think two plus two equals five, how are you gonna run a business?
How are you gonna manage a bank account?
These people are gonna grow up and be completely incapable of doing this stuff.
And that's what the algorithm is targeting with all this weird garbled nonsense.
It's shattering the minds in the developmental stage of these young people.
And Ali knows it better than anybody else.
It's going to result in people being seriously harmed.
oli london
Well, exactly.
And you know, most of these videos that we see on Twitter of these crazy trans activists or sharing their transition journey injecting hormones, they're all from TikTok, right?
So TikTok is really driving this algorithm and it's owned by China.
So it's in China's interest to try and weaken Generation Z and weaken that society and push these gender identities.
Because what happens if there's World War Three?
How are we going to fight if we're too busy fighting over pronouns or Dyeing our hair purple and screaming about trans rights you know.
So it's really breaking down westernized society and this is really a westernized problem because you don't see this on the Chinese version of TikTok.
You see patriotism, you see skill-sharing education.
It's happening in America and it's happening in Europe and this I believe it's targeted by the algorithm.
It's pushing on very young impressionable kids these ideas and shaping their minds to want to be confused and you know They're going to grow up now with no concept of reality.
Like you said, two plus two equals five.
It's very much George Orwell and kids have no grasp of reality.
They can't even say what a woman is and that just says it all.
hannah claire brimelow
It's reality and community, I would think, because they, instead of seeking social connections and, you know, a sense of community from their peers, they're looking for the likes online.
And I think, I mean, I've heard the story repeated, but of course, you might be able to speak to it more specifically of kids feeling Out of themselves, having questions about who they are, the super normal developmentally and online, sort of getting steered toward feeling affirmation from people who are like, well, if you start wearing a dress, it might make you feel better.
And wow, you look great.
And then they sort of pursue more gender ambiguous lifestyles because they feel like that's where they are the most accepted, because that's where they're getting the actual, like, the serotonin boost.
oli london
That's what kids want at the end of the day, validation.
TikTok came about around the same time as the pandemic, so you had kids not socialising.
If they were going to school, they were wearing masks, so they weren't having those key and vital communication skills with other kids.
A lot of them were at home on Zoom calls, so they lost that.
They went to social media like TikTok to try and find that outlet and find that validation and love and praise.
No, you notice with people that transition and share their journey on TikTok, they start off doing something very simple, you know, putting a bit of makeup on and suddenly the likes and comments and engagement goes up.
Then the more and more extreme they show, the more views and attention they get.
So I think for a lot of them, it's seeking that validation and trying to find that love because they don't feel it inside.
They don't feel that love for themselves.
Dylan Mulvaney is a great example.
You know, starting out just as an actor, as a guy, trying anything he could to be famous, and suddenly becomes more and more extreme.
The things he says become more shopping tampons.
He wants to be a lesbian.
He wants to be pregnant.
And I think it's almost a race to get the most craziest videos, the more views and stuff, because it makes that person feel validated.
And I think, you know, a lot of kids are falling into that trap.
tim pool
Yeah.
ian crossland
How did you break out of it?
oli london
It's actually really hard.
So I still do TikTok very occasionally, but I used to be on it eight hours a day.
Like I was really addicted to TikTok.
And that's why the algorithm was just feeding me constantly transgender things, non-binary things, all of that stuff.
So it led me to be very confused and think, you know, maybe this is a sign from the universe.
I didn't think, oh, it's the algorithm pushing this on me.
I thought, okay, maybe the It's the universe.
It's the universe or it's God or something, you know, telling me this is who I'm meant to be.
So, you know, I just stopped using it.
And, you know, I still use social media.
I use Twitter, you know, for sharing news stories and stuff.
But I just realized social media can be quite narcissistic.
And it's like we become so consumed with how we look online.
And I just thought, you know, fuck it.
I don't care what I look like anymore.
I don't care what people say.
I'm just going to try and use my platform to help people.
So I think, you know, spending less time on apps like, you know, Instagram and TikTok and stuff.
ian crossland
Really really helped and you know we all love social media But I think you know maybe don't don't get too into it because it can actually change who we really are That's been on my mind a lot lately I've been hyper obsessed with my personal life, and I'm just like seeing it kind of from the outside I think it's been a 20 years of this the social media age like I am a narcissist, and I can't stand it I don't like checking how many likes I got how many subscribers do I have did that person like what did she?
What did she like?
What did he say like?
It's just this weird internal focus that if there is a nuclear war, I'm not prepared for because I'm focused on my feelings and like, I need to get away.
So you just said you stepped away from the actual machine or at least from aspects of the machine itself.
And it was only just extrication that was solution.
You didn't find any solution like using it smarter or anything like that.
oli london
I mean, I just limit my use.
So, you know, I tend to use Twitter more than, you know, Instagram's about posting pictures of yourself.
TikTok's about posting kind of weird things about your identity.
And I just realized that was actually harmless and also meaningless as well, because, you know, how am I helping people by just posting pictures of myself?
So I realized, you know, use a different platform that's helping people.
So Twitter, you can raise awareness of issues in the world.
You can share news stories.
I think it's a better outlet.
And it's not, you know, Twitter's not about posting pictures of yourself.
It's about, you know, Sharing stories, sharing news and communicating with people in the world and, you know, trying to talk about these issues.
So I think, you know, limiting my time on those other apps and, you know, spending more time doing positive things like on Twitter has helped.
hannah claire brimelow
Did you go through like a withdrawal?
Like, could you, when you realized what was happening, was it cold turkey or did you have to sort of walk yourself down from, because eight hours a day, how do you get anything else done?
oli london
I know.
Well, that was just on TikTok and then I'll be on Instagram for a few hours and stuff, but it's almost like... That's a whole work day!
It's a whole work day.
hannah claire brimelow
It's almost like... It was your job.
You are an influencer.
oli london
Yeah, so it is my job.
So, you know, I was getting brand deals and stuff, but it's like an opioid because you get so addicted.
So when you try to slow that down, you can't.
Like, even when I'm so exhausted and tired, you know, I'd be on my phone like at night, it's 2am, 3am.
It's so boring on my phone.
Nothing going on.
I'd still be on it.
I couldn't get off.
You know, I'm an adult but imagine these kids that are on TikTok, they see all these cool trends and these identities and maybe they don't have friends at school, maybe they're loners and they go to this for an outlet and it's that validation.
We all check how many likes we get, how many comments, subscribers.
We have that addiction to, you know, feeling validated and feeling like if we have more followers, we're loved, we're a good person but it shouldn't be about that.
It should be about who we are inside and, you know, it doesn't matter if we have a million followers or ten followers, it's about the quality of the people around us.
ian crossland
But what reinforces that is the money that can come along with the followers.
Man, what a kerfuffle.
tim pool
And what money gets you.
So the people who are getting more likes are now posting cooler and cooler things.
I remember when social media first started coming out, I would see these posts from people that looked so awesome.
And here I am sitting in my living room or whatever, sitting at my computer, my family's,
my parents' house when I was, I'm like 15, 16, and I'm seeing people like,
they got their skateboards in their car, and they're like, they have selfies or whatever,
digital cameras placed in the dashboard, they were bigger back then.
And I'm just like, man, so lucky, like all this cool stuff they're doing.
They weren't doing any of that stuff.
It was like they were going to the grocery store and they made it look like they were doing something fun.
It was all fake.
It was all these highlight reel of people's boring lives.
And within a few years, I realized that.
I'm going on these missions, skating, and I'm hanging out with these people.
I'm like, this is boring.
All that stuff they were posting was just exaggerated to make it look like they were doing something cool.
I think I'm fortunate enough to, those of us who grew up one foot in, one foot out of this social media space, recognize that it's one big facade, but you've got kids who are growing up in it being told that it's legit.
The people who are making money off it are living these glamorous lives.
And now, there was that poll we talked about a few years ago.
In China, the number one job kids say they want to be when they grow up?
Astronaut.
In the United States?
YouTuber.
hannah claire brimelow
Man, that's messed up.
But there's a decline in factory workers in China right now, and they're attributing it largely to the fact that social media has made it seem like there are actually other things to do.
So if you grew up without social media, without access to the internet, you'd be like, well, everyone I know works in the factory, and so I'm going to work in the factory.
And now it's like, but I don't want to do that.
They're also more highly educated than their parents and things like that.
But I think that's the thing that we want to say.
Social media gives you like something to dream about.
Like you watch someone's travel vlog.
They go to Iceland.
It's cool.
You think, I'm gonna plan a trip to Iceland.
And that could be positive.
On the other hand, it's very easy to become a place of jealousy and bitterness and envy.
tim pool
I feel like people will be really disappointed when they go and see the Aurora Borealis.
These photos are always manipulated.
People don't get it.
The Milky Way, for instance.
If you Google search a photo of the Milky Way, you see this dark band of color.
These are like high dynamic range photos, multi-layer, multi-aperture, whatever, to make it really vibrant.
And then you go out.
I remember the first time I went to the Mojave and I was like, we're going to go to the Mojave like we were in Vegas.
We're going to drive out and we're going to go to the middle of nowhere and just look at the Milky Way.
And it's like, I can kind of see it.
ian crossland
Okay.
tim pool
It's all fake.
ian crossland
You mentioned that data point of out of China the kids want to be astronauts and out of the U.S.
they want to be YouTubers.
And I wonder, this is the first time this crossed my mind, if that's a fake result that the CCP is telling everyone.
Like, oh no, no, no, our citizen kids want to be astronauts.
But they all just want to be YouTubers.
tim pool
What is the app called in China?
oli london
You've got Douyin, you've got WeChat, which is a bit like WhatsApp, or a bit like Twitter, and you've got... Douyin, is that what it is?
What's that other big one they've got?
It's Bilibili, it's like some TikTok kind of thing, and there's... Weibo?
Weibo, that's the one, yeah.
That's a big one, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
Well, let's jump to the international context here.
I have this tweet from Kim.com!
He tweeted this video from Russian American Daily.
This is the perspective of Russia.
Mr. NATO assembled 360,000 troops in Eastern Europe.
Poland is preparing to occupy Western Ukraine.
This is the perspective of Russia.
You can call them wrong, you can call them lies, you can call it propaganda, call it
whatever you want, but we do know that Poland is sending another 2,000 troops to reinforce
its border with Belarus.
We do know that Joe Biden is calling reserve forces, uh, already did, to be deployed into Europe.
And there is a very real concern, Chinese and Russian warships conduct highly provocative drills near Alaska, that, uh, I don't know, World War III, so take your pick!
There's good reason for China to be attacking us from the inside to destabilize the United States, and there's a very real possibility that we're about to escalate into World War III.
I say about to, but who knows how long this stuff takes.
You know, it could take several years or it could be overnight.
hannah claire brimelow
I feel like it's... You know, you have become famous for calling for... Not World War III, I guess.
Civil War is normally... Not calling for it.
oli london
He just mentions it.
hannah claire brimelow
Sorry, I apologize.
Just occasionally... Calling out the words.
For saying the phrase.
But I think...
Again, with the presence of military ships, I mentioned this I think last week, that, you know, we have this newly commissioned ship, the Canberra, that's in Australia.
I think now more than ever we are seeing this sort of toe-to-toe escalation in a small way.
It's just hard for me to see who is going to make that first truly aggressive move.
And I think That's the worst part of war because we'll look back and be able to say like, oh, well, this was happening for a long time.
But right now we're all sort of saying like, is this it?
Is this happening?
oli london
And I think China feels very emboldened to threaten Taiwan, for instance, when they look at Joe Biden, you know, he doesn't know where he's going.
falling down all the time and they look at the breakdown of American society, which in part is
thanks to them with TikTok and they're pushed to weaken America. So China is emboldened. I think
they feel they can take Taiwan and America won't respond because we've seen so many red lines
crossed like in Syria when the red line was crossed with chemical weapons and Obama threatened
to do something but he didn't. We've seen things in Ukraine as well.
So I think China is moving closer and closer.
And you have to think as well, China has huge investments in African countries.
They have that island, what's the island called Diego Garcia, which I believe is owned by the UK, they're actually giving that back to believe it's Mauritius.
So China could potentially take that as a base in the Pacific.
So you see China's building the military, they're building the islands.
And when they look at America, and they see, you know, Joe Biden, a nation in decline, it just emboldens them.
tim pool
Let's get conspiratorial.
We have this big fire in Maui.
They don't know how it started.
I'm sure it's gonna turn out to be like someone's kicked over a lantern or something like that, to be honest.
However, we do have this story from back in February.
China flashed mysterious green lasers over Hawaii, NASA says.
unidentified
Whoa.
tim pool
You guys remember this?
This is the first thing I thought of when you have these lasers.
hannah claire brimelow
Sky barcode.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Wow.
And why?
Oh, that's a good idea, by the way.
Look at that.
Yo, look at this video.
ian crossland
They light shit on fire with that?
tim pool
Language.
Look at that.
unidentified
My bad.
tim pool
What are they doing with these beams of lasers being fired over Hawaii?
ian crossland
They're either producing heat, because that's what lasers are.
They're either doing illumination or targeting.
tim pool
Scanning?
ian crossland
Or heating.
Yeah.
Scanning maybe?
tim pool
And if you notice, you can only see the lasers in certain points.
I don't believe that China intended for these lasers to be seen.
Something, particulate matter, causes refraction, allowing you to see the lasers in the air.
Maybe, we haven't followed up on the story, maybe there was an answer as to what this was.
They say China's most likely behind the mysterious lights.
Chinese pollution monitoring satellite, Docky 1, probably produced the lights but over Hawaii.
ian crossland
Oh, so it's monitoring pollution?
tim pool
Oh, you can call it whatever you want, but my attitude is, look, we are not on good terms with China right now.
I mean, we can pretend, oh no, trade's going on, everything's fine.
No, come on.
They want Taiwan, they're building up their military, there's a chance for escalation, a chance for conflict, they want the South China Sea, and then they've got ships with Russia coming near the Aleutians, coming near U.S.
territory, going near Hawaii, and then they're pulling off something like this.
So look, how hard is it to start a fire?
It's ridiculously easy to start a fire.
And they can fire lasers?
Okay.
ian crossland
It's a little challenging to get the fire to spread, but there were hurricane level, it said it was like hurricane level winds.
I don't, I don't, I don't have high winds.
tim pool
If they can start 50 fires all at once with a sequence of satellites doing high burst, high energy laser lasers, then getting fire to spread isn't really the issue because you make the fire instantly in a bunch of different places.
hannah claire brimelow
And they can monitor the weather in Hawaii.
I mean, you could just Google that.
Like, what I was reading from the National Guardsman who's making a statement was that, you know, there's low humidity and high winds, so that's perfect conditions for wildfires to spread, which means any arson fires would also spread as quickly.
Like, China is perfectly able to say, like, this happens to be a dangerous period for fire in Hawaii, perhaps now, if they were to do something.
There was also a Chinese balloon observed above international waters near Hawaii in February 2022.
Oh, right, right.
tim pool
Remember when Marjorie Taylor Greene argued that there were, like, space lasers that could start fires?
oli london
Maybe she was right.
tim pool
I think it's really funny because they claimed she said Jewish space lasers when she mentioned, like, Rothschild Bank was providing funding for certain technology or whatever.
And I'm like, well, I don't know about any of that, but I can tell you that we have video of lasers being fired from satellites.
Their argument came from a pollution monitoring satellite, but lasers did come from this satellite.
Now, I don't know the capabilities of this, but, uh...
I'm not going to believe them, right?
I'm not going to believe China's like, we're just looking for pollution in Hawaii?
hannah claire brimelow
Well, and they said the balloon that went over Montana was like, oh, it was monitoring the weather and it blew off course and we didn't say anything.
Like, I don't want to be too mean to China right now, but they lie.
I mean, they're declining to meet with our secretary of state or there are any delegations from Anthony Blinken.
So what makes us think that they're feeling like they should give us any honest information?
unidentified
Right.
hannah claire brimelow
I think I think Ollie's right.
there is a there is a general opinion coming from China that America is not in a position
of strength. I mean, I remember being on pop culture at the end, the pop culture crisis,
the podcast at the end of this last year, and we were talking about the fact that China
was declining more Western movies. I mean, they are not interested in American culture
right now. And in fact, to your point, they're probably trying to insulate themselves from
American culture because American culture, modern American culture is largely about the
destruction and the turning within oneself and there's no patriotism.
There's a lack of civic engagement.
It makes the country weak.
And so, in turn, it makes their adversaries stronger.
tim pool
They're saying that it may have been Cloud Aerosol Lidar and Infrared Pathfinder Satellite Observation, CALYPSO.
Good job with that one, guys.
They say it's been orbiting for more than 15 years.
So maybe it's nothing.
But I can tell you this.
Space lasers are real.
Confirmed.
Popular Mechanics, we know about space lasers.
Lasers can start fires.
The question is, what is the potentiality for China to have any kind of laser on a satellite that can produce enough energy to start a fire?
Would they do it against us?
I think this is all easily within the realm of possibility.
That they can damage our economy and cripple us in major areas and make it look like an accident.
It's, I guess, fifth generational warfare.
ian crossland
Yeah, first thought I had was, let's get Kash Patel in here and talk about high-tech weaponry and see what... He's not going to tell everyone what the American government has, necessarily, but he'll be able to smile and nod while we're talking about these things.
Hey man, that's it.
We need to be on guard.
I don't say believe everything or have an open mind to the point where your brain falls out.
Like, not everything is possible.
Everything's possible.
hannah claire brimelow
I love that image.
Your mind is so open, your brain falls out.
ian crossland
Have you ever seen it?
It's a meme.
I didn't make it up, but there's like a meme with the guys thinking and then it thinks, yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
That's fun.
ian crossland
Keep it in mind though.
Yeah.
Space lasers are legit real and they can make things very, very hot.
hannah claire brimelow
I think the question is, what's the point of the timing?
Like, at what point do we think that anyone would want... Chaos.
Just chaos?
tim pool
Well, I mean, if... If we're busy dealing with... If China invades Taiwan tomorrow, then we'll get it, right?
So this is a target, this is a Pacific economic hub.
hannah claire brimelow
And naval bases.
ian crossland
And they just did military training, the Chinese and Russians, a few days ago up by the Aleutian Islands.
tim pool
Right, and the U.S.
deployed warships, and now all of a sudden an unknown fire sparks and wipes out a whole city?
I mean, the damage that we see in this city?
Only 53 dead.
Thank heavens, because it was just a fire.
But this wiped out basically the whole city.
unidentified
If that is a weapon, that is a powerful weapon.
tim pool
God, like, dude, the reality is, we've got videos online of the US
having large infrared lasers that can shoot down drones.
It heats them up until they burst into flames and then they fall out of the sky.
With a satellite, I don't know how long it would take to get a charge for a laser powerful enough
to start a fire, but you don't, I mean, the range is probably the issue.
I mean, we're talking, what is it, 50 miles?
What's a low-Earth-orbit satellite?
Probably 150 miles?
You wanna Google that real quick?
That's a long distance for something to start a fire.
So I don't know.
That seems like a bit much, to be completely honest.
ian crossland
2,000 kilometers?
hannah claire brimelow
You're disproving your own theory right now.
ian crossland
Between 160 kilometers and 2,000 kilometers.
tim pool
Wow, so even less than that.
Right, so it could be like 60 miles, 70 miles.
Is there a laser that can start a fire within 60 miles?
I kind of feel like military tech is well, like, way beyond what we think.
And even if it was, like, a railgun that launched a small incendiary or something, it's easier than a laser.
ian crossland
Or, like, 10 lasers to, like, times 10, if you can, for the distance you need it hotter.
tim pool
And focusing it in one direction.
The question is, how much energy would it need to store to be able to pull something like that at that range?
And it may be, maybe it takes seven months to charge up with solar, and then it can set off a couple small fires, something, who knows.
But you got this, you also got the fires up in Canada.
So what's going on?
Now, they're going to claim climate change and all that stuff, I'm sure.
But what if the reality is war?
oli london
Well there was wildfires in Greece recently and some investigative reporters found that the land that was burnt already had a permit to build wind farms but the locals didn't want them to build there so that could be one explanation.
It's purposeful arson so that land developers can buy the land cheap and get in there and claim it's climate change but really it's just them trying to seize some land for a cheap price.
tim pool
Let's get even more spicy tonight.
We have this from the Post-Millennial.
This is a controversial interview John Stossel did.
consent driven by profit motive claims climate change scientists who said the IPCC was set up
to look for dangerous human-caused climate change. This is a controversial interview John Stossel
did. They say Post Millennial Reports, a once-starling of the climate alarmism community,
turned skeptic. Judith Curry told John Stossel that the man-made climate change narrative is
a manufactured consensus because researchers found that they could make money pushing it.
The video released on Tuesday pointed out how some scientists take aggressive attempts to hide data that shows that climate change isn't a crisis.
She said they do ugly things such as avoiding Freedom of Information Act requests, trying to get journal editors fired.
The origins go back to the U.N.
environmental program, Curry said.
She noted that some U.N.
officials were motivated by anti-capitalism, they hated the oil companies, and seized on the climate change issue to move their policies along.
She pointed to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, IPCC, which was set up, quote, to look for dangerous human-caused climate change and not focus on any benefits of warming.
So I'll pause right there, and my question then is, obviously a lot of people are going to agree with her.
I don't immediately agree with her, because I don't immediately agree with any of these people.
I don't care if they're the IPCC or otherwise.
She's saying that there are benefits of climate change, of man-made global warming, but also that it's alarmism, it's not a crisis.
She's saying it's not a crisis because there are benefits, in which case the implication is it's actually happening.
You get it?
ian crossland
No, I'm gonna need to hear that one.
tim pool
Okay, she's saying that it's alarmism, because they can make money.
And that they're not pointing out the benefits of warming.
That sounds like what she's saying is climate change is real.
Humans are causing it.
But the reason that it's not a crisis is because we benefit from it.
hannah claire brimelow
She thinks the scientists are just being too negative.
They're being too hard on man made cause.
tim pool
That's what it sounds like.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, I tend to agree with, you know, anything becomes a crisis if someone realizes they can make money off of offering you a solution, right?
Like, all the companies that have sprung up and are able to be like, you should buy our product because it's no emissions or it's recycled or whatever else, even when maybe actually producing that product in the quote-unquote green way, this concept of greenwashing, Is actually more harmful to the environment or wherever it's from.
I mean, we hear the stories about you put in wind farms or fields of solar panels and you're actually killing everything that lives naturally in that field.
But does it matter?
Like, are we saying that's not worth it?
But it's hard to know exactly what her criticism is.
unidentified
I don't know of any benefits of global warming, but I also... Plants grow faster?
hannah claire brimelow
I guess?
I feel like I don't know.
ian crossland
It's nicer in the summer.
unidentified
I don't want to thank this lady.
tim pool
We can reclaim Antarctica.
ian crossland
Yeah, the ice will melt.
We'll leave the ice age, which is probably pretty cool.
tim pool
But I think if the planet ever got hot enough to where Antarctica melted and we could reclaim it, the equator would probably be uninhabitable.
The Middle East would be gone.
We'd be living on the caps and there'd be a band in the center of the Earth that's too hot to live.
ian crossland
Is that where the Larsen B ice shelf, I think, broke off as the Antarctic ice shelf?
tim pool
Isn't that a TV show?
No, no, there's a TV show where the equator has become, global warming has resulted in the equator region, like around the planet, being too hot.
So there are southern hemisphere people and northern hemisphere people, and it's very difficult to travel between the two hemispheres because of the heat in the middle.
hannah claire brimelow
But it reminds me of like, I think there was some show on Netflix recently, like different fantasy novels will have these concept of like kingdoms that are separated by some place that's very difficult to cross.
Like maybe we've been predicting this for a long time.
The thing about all climate science and I'm happy to try and protect the earth or, you know, not import non-native species into wherever.
Take steps to protect the environment that you're living in.
It just seems like the metrics behind climate science change a lot.
Like the thing that we're concerned about changes like one time i came on here i was like aren't we concerned about the ozone layer and everyone was like no the ozone layer was trendy but now it's over like how do i keep up with knowing how to protect the environment if the thing that they're saying is the most pressing pressing danger changes all the time
ian crossland
Big problem with climate science.
It's like if you had a thousand people taking a poop, and you're like, at this rate, we're gonna have huge, huge mounds of poop, and we're all gonna die!
Make them stop pooping!
We need less people!
And you're like, well, what if we move the poop over there afterwards?
Well, we hadn't considered that.
We don't consider mitigating factors.
We just look at the cause and unmitigated result and we'll project that number out for X amount of years, infinite amounts of years, and we'll tell you that in 100,000 years this will be the result.
They don't take into account that we can pull the gases back out of the atmosphere, for instance, which would be like redisplacing the waste.
Did that answer your question?
hannah claire brimelow
I don't know.
I think so.
I remember taking an environmental science course, like an AP environmental science course when I was in high school, and it being like, we talked about this the other week with the light bulbs.
They're like, the new LED light bulbs are going to change the world, and they're so important, and this, that, and the other.
But now I never hear about the light bulbs.
Now I hear about ocean levels.
Now also I think the ocean levels are over because all the billionaires bought their beach houses, which is evidenced by the Maui map.
And also, from what I knew about ice and water and volume, it all sort of works out if the ice melts.
But again, maybe I'm wrong.
oli london
And a lot of these green technologies, for instance, wind turbines in Scotland, they got rid of 15 million trees, they basically deforested them to make way for wind farms.
So you have that then you have the cobalt and lithium mines in Congo, which are for electric batteries for solar panels for cars and They have to be replaced every year and that causes tremendous pollution.
Not only that, there's a lot of child slavery.
There's about 20,000 child slaves mining these for solar panels.
So I think, you know, all the people, these scientists that preach about, we need to push wind turbines, we need all these solar panels.
It's very hypocritical because oftentimes these things actually cause more environmental damage, you know, deforesting entire natural habitats.
So I really think what this scientist was saying, it is being used for profit to scare people.
If this was true, if it really was the world's about to explode from global warming, why are these billionaires going on 2,000 private jets to Davos for the World Economic Forum every single year?
So they don't practice what they preach, so it can't be that bad if they're saying the world's about to end yet they're still on their vacation on their private jet in their five different mansions.
tim pool
Five different mansions on beachfront property.
Oh, Maui.
Right, yeah, on Maui.
Now they're gonna come out and they're gonna say Maui was climate change, this proves it, and we're all gonna be like, why do you own 900 acres on Maui if you think Maui's going up in flames because of climate change?
ian crossland
When I was in LA in like 2009, I was so freaked out by a lot of this climate stuff, and I always started screaming and telling guys to pee in the sink, because I was like, I'm tired, stop wasting water, we're in a drought.
And so I made a YouTube video, and I was like, you're a man, pee in the sink!
Don't waste water.
unidentified
So gross.
ian crossland
Looking back, like, was that gross, or did I do the right thing?
hannah claire brimelow
pee in the sink, like hopefully you clean it after.
ian crossland
Well, yeah, that was, that was, uh, implicit.
tim pool
They have top and bottom toilets, as some people call them, I guess.
And these environmentalists, it's a two level toilet where when you're going number one,
you sit on the top, which fills it up.
And then when you go number two, the number one flushes the number two.
ian crossland
Cool.
tim pool
People do not understand.
So a lot of people don't get this.
Anybody who's owned an RV gets this.
When you use the toilet, there is a pool of water in there that's diluting human waste, concentrated, you know, in its natural form.
These hippies, they're making a sacrifice, I gotta tell you.
ian crossland
Did you ever get an unintended whiff?
tim pool
I've never used one of those toilets.
ian crossland
Oh yeah, that's, in yours you didn't use it.
unidentified
What do you mean?
ian crossland
Your RV, did you not have toilet in there?
tim pool
No, you don't smell these things in the RV when you drain them.
ian crossland
That's what I meant.
Did you ever, you never bothered?
tim pool
We never used them.
ian crossland
Oh, okay.
tim pool
But these environmental toilets, it's like, you stand on the top, you know, you sit on the top and you fill it up yourself.
And then you sit down on the bottom, and there you go.
hannah claire brimelow
I'm just not that dedicated to safety or anything.
tim pool
Hey, look, California's in a drought.
Yeah.
They've been in a drought.
I don't know if they're still in a drought, but the drought comes and goes.
Basically, Southern California is a desert, and they're only surviving off of Colorado River water for the most part.
So, hey, these people who live down there are like, I shouldn't have to do this.
Everyone else should have to.
And it's like, dude, you're in for the win.
oli london
They all have swimming pools, don't they?
So if there's such a drought, you know, give up your swimming pool for the summer.
hannah claire brimelow
Well there were several celebrities that were running their sprinklers and they would get fines if they were just doing it anyway because they can afford to pay the fine.
So why should their lifestyle suffer?
But you guys should all start using, you know, reusable paper straws because that will save the environment.
oli london
And that's ridiculous because you go to Starbucks, you get a coffee, it's in a massive plastic cup and then you've got the paper straw which is just, you know, so hypocritical.
So it's just virtue signaling at the end of the day because how's that saving the planet if you're still using a plastic cup?
ian crossland
It was because they found that tortoise, that giant turtle with the straw stuck in his nose.
Did you ever see that video?
And they have like pliers trying to pull it out.
It's bleeding.
hannah claire brimelow
I spent a lot of time cutting up the like plastic rings for soda cans because of those images of like various things swim through.
It was super upsetting.
I didn't like that at all.
But then, you know, we don't talk about the fact that you can order mixed wildflowers off of Amazon and throw all this or like the seeds of them all over your yard and actually all of the plants are native to China so you're actually hurting your local biome because it's not clearly marked but the environmentalists don't care about that but they do care about like none of it makes sense to me there doesn't seem to be any consistency.
tim pool
I learned recently that dandelions are not native to North America and they're actually not weeds they're considered medicinal and food and they were brought here intentionally and now they're weeds.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
ian crossland
We should start eating those.
tim pool
Yeah, there's like a short season for it, honestly.
It's like a couple weeks where the dandelions are all out everywhere.
And then what they would do is that when they were bright and yellow, they would fry them.
It's like a West Virginia delicacy.
hannah claire brimelow
I love the movement towards People will grow native plants instead if you have like a big yard instead of having just grass you you grow native plants so you can have native pollinators.
I think that sort of this idea of the tract home and probably UK has an equivalent of this that are built and at the time they were a symbol of prosperity and you're you can own your own home and that's great but they all had to have the exact same lawn and there's no sort of a maintenance and there's sort of a an aesthetic purpose to it turned us away from being part of our environment.
tim pool
Here's what's crazy.
We have a ridiculous amount of fruit on the property.
Things I've never even heard of.
Greenbrier.
No idea what that is.
And I go out by the shed and there's these vines with these little...
bushels of like berries hanging from the tree.
And I'm like, what is this?
So I have this app called Picture This, scan it.
And then it says, this is Greenbrier, an edible blackberry.
And I was like, how come I've never gone to the grocery store and grabbed things like,
oh, it's blueberries, raspberries, strawberries.
And mostly due to like sturdiness of the fruit.
So Pawpaw, for instance, why don't we, why can't you buy Pawpaw in the grocery store?
Because it's very hard to cultivate, it's very hard to pollinate, it becomes very delicate, and it rots really quick.
So most people never heard of pawpaw.
Then we've got, like, everyone knows mulberries, because there's a song about it, but how many people have actually had mulberry?
If you have a mulberry tree, you'll have mulberries in the summer.
But, they're so delicate and they break, nobody harvests them and ships them out, even though there's, like, a tree produces a godly amount of them.
ian crossland
It's weird how people, how the English, how just humans are, like, we have the blue berry, and it's like, there's lots of berries that are blue, but that's the blue berry, and there's the black berry.
And then there's the orange.
Like, there's other fruits that are orange, but that's the orange.
unidentified
No, no, no, no, no.
tim pool
Orange got its name, like, the color orange got its name from the fruit.
ian crossland
Oh, interesting.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
But, and then there, I was just thinking, I watched a grasshopper hop across the lawn.
I was like, a grasshopper.
He's hopping on the grass.
Like, oh, we're so smart, these humans.
Like, we're just so brilliant with our names.
tim pool
Bro, this is how words come into existence.
ian crossland
It's so, like, it's so childish.
hannah claire brimelow
Who wants a better name for the grasshopper?
tim pool
But people's, people's names mean things.
People used to name their kids the equivalent of, like, shining light.
They'd be like, I will name my chun, worships the Lord.
hannah claire brimelow
I really like the Puritan name trends.
Those were fun.
tim pool
No, no, no, like, my name means one who is like, what is it, one who is judged by God.
And then Daniel means one who is, one who honors God, or might be the inverse.
But quite literally, back in the day, there's some dude who had a kid, and it's like, what
would you like to name your son?
One who is judged by God.
ian crossland
But how did it become going to Tim?
tim pool
How did it get shortened?
No, that meant.
Timothy meant judged by God.
ian crossland
Oh, okay.
Timothy.
tim pool
I guess.
hannah claire brimelow
I don't know.
I used to like, the Puritans would name their kids, like, negative things so that you would, like, remember things you shouldn't be doing.
So they have some really crazy names.
Somebody should look them up or I'll do it in a second.
Because we think of, like, oh, you know, you might name your daughter Grace because of God's grace or something like that, but they would name their kids, like, just these things, like, He Who Shouldn't Sin or something like that, like, these sort of heavy, dark names because they were trying to remind their kids to stay, like, on the right path.
So you will look at—sorry, go ahead.
tim pool
Timotheus means honoring God.
Timoteos, honoring God.
unidentified
Timoteos.
tim pool
And that's where Timothy comes from.
But my point is, like, people literally should just be very direct with everything.
But my point about the food is that people who live in cities don't know what food is.
And it's really fascinating when they come out here and they're like, did you plant this?
I get asked that for EVERY.
SINGLE.
THING.
From, like, literally every time.
Someone who's never lived out in the middle of nowhere comes out, and then I'll be like, hey look, we have a bunch of wineberry.
And I'm like, what's wineberry?
And I'm like, well, it's like a Chinese kind of raspberry.
I'm like, did you plant this?
I'm like...
I'm like, dude, there's 8,000 brambles just everywhere!
And you think, like, we went with seeds and we planted all of these things.
unidentified
Farmer Tim!
tim pool
Yeah, and the grapes are everywhere.
There's hundreds of thousands of grapes, I'm not even kidding, hundreds of thousands, all along this tree line.
And people are like, did you plant them?
I'm like, that grapevine is 20 feet in the air.
Where would I have planted that to make- I don't know what you're talking about.
ian crossland
I was thinking we should make wine, and I'm like, you know, the amount of effort and work it would take to make wine, where we could just go to the store and spend $150 on bottles of wine, is like, so out of proportion right now that I do think we're living in like this luxurious society that can't sustain.
It just can't.
Like, we should be prioritizing the grapes on the property and making the wine.
hannah claire brimelow
It would be fun.
Like this idea of like the farm to table or eat local movement is interesting.
The problem is that people go to the grocery store and if the grocery stores don't stock local produce then obviously it becomes hard to eat this stuff.
Like there is a challenge to it.
I think, you know, When we had more regional food systems, meaning that farmers ship their foods to local grocery stores, we probably had more diversity in our diet, which is interesting.
And there was probably more regional cuisine, right?
Like, we're talking about, like, stuff that's in West Virginia.
If you probably went back and found, like, an old West Virginia cookbook, they used things that were in the area.
It was different.
And now we have sort of a homogenous culture across the U.S.
If you go to any grocery store, you expect to see a certain thing.
tim pool
It's the homogenization of the world, and it's horrifying.
Like, I've talked about how I went to the Bahamas, I went to NASA, and I'm like, this is gonna be cool, I'm gonna see some local flavor, and I get off the boat, and it's like Gucci, Hard Rock Cafe, Starbucks, and I'm just like, okay, I got a Starbucks down the street from me, I don't need to come here for this.
Maybe that's the intention, maybe that's what they want.
But they have this service where you can get shipped exotic fruits, And most people don't even know what these things are.
Because you go to the grocery store and there's like seven fruits you can buy.
And then sometimes there's like a prickly pear and people are like, ooh, look at this weird one.
And it's just like, dude, there's so much crazy stuff going on.
We have black cherry trees.
The black cherries are in season right now.
So there's probably, on one tree, what is there, 200,000 black cherries?
unidentified
It's crazy.
tim pool
I don't even know how to get them. They're just like all the way in the top 40 feet in the air.
ian crossland
Yeah, we need like a machine that you latch around the trunk and then it shakes.
tim pool
Yeah, and then they all fall down.
hannah claire brimelow
Have you seen that video of like a truck that does it with oranges?
But I think what you're saying is probably because the idea that things are in season,
like you can't get them all the time. And Americans, probably just all modern Western
culture, we expect things now and we don't want to have to wait.
Like, you can get strawberries in the grocery store all year round.
They have a growing season.
We just grow them in greenhouses.
Now, that's an innovation.
That's pretty cool.
On the other hand, what are we missing out on?
Because we've simplified our minds to only expect to eat strawberries as the only fruit.
tim pool
This is why a lot of the climate change stuff doesn't bother me.
When they're like, you shouldn't be getting avocados in the winter.
And I'm like, yeah, I agree with that.
It's like ridiculous that we grow avocados in Mexico and then we ship them to New York for a bunch of hipsters so they can have their winter avocado toast.
Like, just have the fruit and stuff that's available in your region in these times.
Now I get it, I get it.
In winter, you need to ship food in because they're not growing this stuff.
But I just think generally, I am slightly offended by urban liberals who are complaining about climate change while being the primary beneficiaries of the gas guzzling trucks.
ian crossland
Global imperialism.
tim pool
Right, right.
It's like, dude, it's you!
It's not the dude who's got a bunch of chickens in Appalachia who's eating pawpaw.
He's not getting pawpaw shipped to him from Mexico.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, and he's preserving stuff so that in the winter he'll have some type of fruit.
tim pool
Yeah, we made wineberry jam.
hannah claire brimelow
Exactly.
tim pool
It's great.
We saved it.
It's still good.
And we have mulberry jam, too.
hannah claire brimelow
Right.
It's a cultural difference of having to think, like, I'm going to have to think ahead.
I'm going to have to plan what I'm going to eat in the winter so I have something.
We're much more of an on-demand society.
Now, of course, I benefit from that.
I go to the grocery store.
Like, there are things that I enjoy in modernity, not having to prep food and farm all summer and things like that.
On the other hand, like, as a culture, what did we lose when we wanted the convenience?
oli london
We lost the sense of appreciation and value you know because when we have a meal we don't appreciate where has that come from you know who picked that from the tree so I think that's why it's nice to grow locally if you can grow vegetables in your own garden because you appreciate it and also the taste is so much better you know when you grow lettuce or potatoes and you cook it it tastes beautiful there's no no harmful chemicals on it from Monsanto or anything it's just purely out of the ground so I think there's uh there's something nice about that appreciating and kind of going back to No, old times when we used to grow our own vegetables and, you know, everybody, if they have a little garden, just grow a few things.
I think that's a nice thing.
ian crossland
Do you think there's emotions involved with vegetables?
Like when you, the way you pick them?
Because I know with animals, if you slaughter an animal that's in fear, it'll produce a lot of cortisol.
The meat won't be as good.
I've heard that.
tim pool
Yeah.
ian crossland
I know that if I'm stressed out and I eat food, I have a harder time digesting it because I'm stressed.
So is the plant, is a plant also experiencing some sort of stressor and like being frozen and shipped over long distances, held in captivity in a grocery store?
tim pool
Not in a spiritual sense, but right now we've got grapes growing all over the property.
They're called frost grapes.
And what they say you're supposed to do is you harvest them when they're plumpest and freshest, which I think is coming up in a month or two.
You freeze them lightly and then take them out and thaw them.
And that causes a chemical reaction which changes them from very tart to very sweet.
Yeah, so a lot of people wait, they're called frost grapes, you wait till first frost and then it converts the sugars or something like that.
Although, I was watching a video about it and they're like, some people just don't care all that much, the tartness is actually quite pleasant, so maybe just want regular old wild grapes.
hannah claire brimelow
But it's sort of nice, you have the option to do either one.
ian crossland
So less spiritually emotional but more chemically reactive, that's for sure.
tim pool
A chemical reaction occurs.
I've just been thinking more and more that, you know, cities are the devil.
You know, in a certain sense.
I've lived in cities my whole life, then slowly started moving further and further away from them.
Then in 2014, got a little, like a five acre little plot in the Redlands in Miami, which was less city, more rural and semi-farm.
Like there's a lot of farms there.
We only have five acres, but we had chickens.
The first time we got a chicken right out of the chicken's butt, I'm like, do I got to do anything to it?
Do I just eat it?
And then I'm like, did we just eat it?
And then we fried up the eggs.
They were great.
We made food with it.
Then, uh, when we were here, when we got away from, uh, Jersey and New York and all that stuff, we had a garden.
I wake up in the morning, take two eggs straight from the chicken's butt, you walk right up where the chicken lays, they're still warm, and then you go to the garden, I pick some cherry tomatoes, grab a zucchini, go and chop it all up, fry it up, breakfast made by me.
No harmful chemicals.
No BS.
I think about what's going on in cities.
How to feed the people who live there.
Glyphosate.
Pesticides.
Atrazine.
All of these really awful chemicals.
The fuels that are burned to produce it.
All the waste produced by it.
And I'm like, that's disgusting.
It's not food.
These people are eating like brominated flour and other weird chemicals.
And I'm like, Cities have become toxic wastelands, where people are consuming fake food, becoming extremely depressed and unhealthy.
We have a story, I mean suicide rates are through, let me pull this one up, let's talk about this.
Look at this.
The Daily Mail reports, suicides hit record high last year when nearly 50,000 Americans took their own lives.
CDC report revealed that suicides in the US are at an all-time high.
I think a large component of this is, What's- What we see in cities.
Obviously, COVID, I think, destroyed a lot of people.
The lockdowns and all that stuff.
But you come out to the middle of nowhere.
And what do you have?
Fresh running water.
Granted, you don't want to drink wild stuff.
You gotta clean and all that stuff.
But we have a well.
We have a well water with a filtration system.
So there's no gunk, there's no weird chemicals, there's no... There's no chlorine.
I'm pretty sure we have no chlorine.
It's like a multi-stage filter with a UV light to clean it and kill the bacteria.
No fluoride added.
Just regular old well water.
And we have the rivers right down the road.
Fresh fruit growing all across the property.
It's ridiculous.
Every month there's some new kind of fruit to eat.
And we didn't even put it there.
And you can even eat the leaves.
Nobody wants to.
But you can!
A lot of the- Grape leaves.
We got so much grape- Ooh, we could wrap stuff with grape leaves.
Yeah, you could wrap them and soak them.
Yeah, Chuck was talking about doing that.
So we're out here, and it's like a Disney fairy tale.
ian crossland
Little animals running about with deer on the front yard- The picturesque mountains in the forefront with the clean air.
tim pool
Yup.
You walk out, you look outside, you see clean air, you see mist rising, there's wild turkeys in the front.
You could, back in the day, They have, I mentioned this, they have the guns in the kitchen.
The muskets.
And I asked the guy, like, what's the musket for?
And they're like, oh, when they're cooking dinner, they open the back door, shoot a rodent, throw the rodent in the stew.
And I'm like, wow.
That's how they live.
It's like, you don't even need to go hunting.
It's like, open the door and you wait, and you're like, there we go, rabbit, bang.
So we have wild turkeys in front of the house all the time.
We don't do this, but we could literally just capture, kill anyone.
We have deer all over the place.
There's too many deer, actually.
I hope, like, the deer need to be killed.
I don't want to be a dick, but there's like 25 of them, and there's poop everywhere, and they're just eating too much.
So people go out and they kill them, but you could just eat the deer.
It's just like the food is right there.
In the cities, they use all those crazy chemicals.
People's heads are whacked.
They're on SSRIs.
They live in these concrete blocks that smell like sour milk.
ian crossland
Yeah, that brake dust coming out of the cars.
hannah claire brimelow
I was gonna say, all the car emissions that they walk through to get from tiny apartment building to the tiny office.
tim pool
24-7.
ian crossland
Because it goes into your apartments, too.
tim pool
It's like living in a sewer.
ian crossland
Is it like that in London, too?
Your firm outside of London?
oli london
Yeah, but I don't really spend much time there.
But it is, I mean, the pollution is really, really bad.
But you know, on the flip side, they're trying to push the climate change thing.
So they're putting plant pots in the middle of roads to stop drivers going into central London.
They're charging people every single day, about $15 just to drive into central London.
So that's even delivery drivers, truck drivers.
So there's good, good and bad things about that.
You know, I think it is a tough life that when people are going from the office, you know, nine to five, they go straight to the house, and they've got a tiny apartment and For a one bedroom apartment in London, it's like $1,200, $1,300.
So it's crammed conditions, a bit like New York.
So it's not a way for people to live.
Like Tim was saying, it's much better.
People are happier and healthier if they're living in the countryside.
I spend so much time outdoors and it's so much nicer.
It's fulfilling.
You feel that fresh air and you feel good and you appreciate things.
If you grow your own vegetables, you appreciate that taste.
You don't think, oh, I can just buy what I want.
It's consumption.
You actually enjoy life a bit more.
tim pool
Here's a crazy thing.
They have a racial breakdown and an age breakdown.
It is mostly millennial white people who are committing suicide.
ian crossland
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
Multiracial people are very low.
I love this.
But what you need to understand is that white people are the majority of the population.
So percentage is what matters the most.
And I think... Okay, this percentage changed.
You need to break down the amount of suicides by race, but by percentage of population.
So it looks like white people are committing tremendous amounts of suicide, but it's actually fairly comparable.
If you look at black or African, they're about 10% of the white population, and that's actually... So it seems statistically average suicide across all racial backgrounds.
But then you do notice that from 25 to 64, substantially more suicides, with the highest demographic being 25 to 44, which is millennial into younger Gen X.
It's freaky stuff, man.
You know, whatever's causing this.
People are having a breakdown.
I think purpose matters.
I think we can look at a lot of the issues that are causing something like this, and they're just directly correlated with cities.
No community.
No neighbors.
No purpose.
Living in pollution and garbage.
And running back and forth.
It must... It feels... I don't know, man.
It just feels like the dark side.
oli london
And they can never get up the ladder you know they're stuck in those jobs for their whole life they're just surviving basically you know paying their bills and it's really tough and what's sad as well most of these people likely have mental health struggles and then you've got Canada that's legalizing euthanasia including for people with mental health so how many more people are going to feel so hopeless that they're going to take their lives you know instead of you know sending all this money to different countries you know another 24 billion to Ukraine you know America should be investing in mental health and let's help these people we shouldn't be you know pushing people to No, feel that they've got no chance in life.
Let's actually help them and support them with mental health.
ian crossland
I think it was someone was just saying we should reintroduce them reopen mental facilities.
Was it Vivek?
Was it Vivek?
Do you guys remember?
oli london
It wouldn't be a bad idea.
ian crossland
Yeah.
Reagan shut them down in the early 80s and that was a big... Put them in jails instead.
Yeah.
And now we have this mental health crisis that just began like right when that big shutdown happened.
So maybe it's time to... But like they were so horrible.
So many people suffered so horribly in a lot of those places that that was the justification for shutting them down.
But that doesn't mean that we can't do it right or do something.
tim pool
It also opens the door to... you're a political dissident, so the government says, hmm, mentally ill.
ian crossland
Yeah, or, yo, you have a medical marijuana card?
Well, it's not federally legal, so off to the mental facility with you.
tim pool
And you can't get out.
ian crossland
With armed guards, yeah.
tim pool
With regular jails, you'll get a term.
And then you get out, maybe you'll get out with good behavior, get out early, but with mental facilities, they determine whether you get out or not.
ian crossland
I think a lot of these people are, maybe not a lot, but returning veterans from the war in the Middle East, wars in the Middle East, when you come back and you realize like, wait, there were no weapons of mass destruction, wait, Osama bin Laden, we didn't go into Afghanistan for Osama bin Laden, I thought, I just spent six to eight years of my life willing to kill and seeing people like, And people hate me and look down on me and think that I'm bad for having been in the military.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, like, veteran suicide is serious and is a part of it.
I think part of it is also social media.
I mean, it's something that we see particularly among young people, anywhere from, you know, 15 to 35, you're seeing an increase in anxiety, depression, suicidal ideation.
There might be a lot of circumstances but I think ultimately we have bred we have raised young people in a culture of hopelessness and you must be reminded that every day if you're working a job that you don't like in a city where you feel like no one knows you and you go home and you lie in bed and look on your phone for hours and hours and hours And you feel like you're not getting the same amount of likes as someone else, and why aren't you doing more with your life?
And that despair is terrible, where I think we need to have a culture that measures success, not by online presence, but in the connections you have in real life.
tim pool
I think if you look at this data, there's a really easy way to, a really easy bit of data to show what's causing this.
You can see that males are three times more likely, or three or four times more likely to commit suicide than females.
So I think a large component of this is telling men they're evil, they're bad, they're wrong.
You know I love there was this article that talked about the glass cliff.
It was like Linda Yegarino's appointed to the board of X right when the company's about to implode, this is the glass cliff.
And I'm like, man, you got a glass floor, you got a glass ceiling, you got glass walls, you got a glass cliff.
Ladies be living in a big glass room.
Is that it?
ian crossland
Don't throw stones.
tim pool
That's what I was gonna say.
People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
And so these people, they be doing nothing but throwing stones.
And so I'm like, no matter what happens to a woman in the workplace, it is the fault of patriarchy and men.
And I'm just like, dude, come on.
You can't be like... Elon Musk hired who he thought was the best person for the job.
We were very critical of Yacarino.
I think that's the name, right?
Because she was a World Economic Forum individual.
She's not being tossed off the glass cliff.
She was given a prestigious position.
You give a woman an executive position, well, it's the glass cliff to throw her off the cliff.
You don't give it to her, it's the glass ceiling.
You give her a mid-tier job, and they say, well, that's the glass floor.
Women are thrown out there because they're eye candy.
Just spare me, dude.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, I mean, with the Ocarina, like, them being like, they hire her right as the company was about to go downhill, like, are you guys saying she's not capable of turning it around?
Yes.
Are you saying that you think she's not qualified for the job she was given?
Like, are you sort of showing us what's actually happening here?
I think there is such a weird conversation where Women have to be protected at all costs because they can never think that maybe a man would have been better for their position when ultimately we know that genders function differently.
I mean it goes right down.
You can study newborn babies and see a difference in the way their brains naturally develop.
You can't tell me a newborn baby has been socialized at all.
We know there are extreme differences and instead of having a society that prepares people to pursue things that fall along those lines, we're saying constantly like, something's oppressing you, something's bad.
Actually, you're the problem.
Actually, you need to stop the way you are and conform to what we want from you.
It's just toxic.
ian crossland
I think divorce is another one.
I was just watching Soft White Underbelly on YouTube.
Highly recommend the one with the divorce attorney that just recently came out a few days ago.
And he was saying that like in divorce proceedings, the guy tends to get the raw end of the stick.
It's like if the guy cheats on the girl, the guy's trash.
He's a piece of shit, you know, junk.
If the girl cheats on the guy, the guy probably wasn't doing enough to support her.
So she had to go.
hannah claire brimelow
They're more likely to lose custody of their children.
ian crossland
And so to be 18 or 16, I mean, did you, was this around you, this like men are bad?
Is that part of why you feel like I don't want to be, or I don't feel right as a guy?
oli london
So it wasn't like it is now when, you know, the patriarchy is constantly mocked and you saw the Barbie movie that was kind of mocking men.
So you know you saw the Barbie movie Mocking Men but I wasn't around then but I had a kind of difficult relationship with my dad he was very masculine he was trying to get me to do all these outdoor things and you know I didn't get on with him so I was trying to reject that so that was part of the reason why I became more feminine and more like a girl and stuff but I think nowadays we're really seeing this division is you know a breakdown of masculinity because it's very hard to find you know just normal masculine guys now right you know because we're having this society that's emasculating men and Again, the Barbie movie.
You know, I enjoyed the movie.
I thought it was cool.
I love, you know, all the colors and the outfits and stuff.
But I think it was mocking men and trying to make men look bad and tell women, you know, you don't need a man.
You don't need to settle down.
And, you know, they even mocked the pregnant Barbie and that.
So I think it's kind of teaching kids, you know, or teaching young girls you don't need a man in life.
And, you know, it's essential for starting a family, right?
ian crossland
And And I think guys are seeing that and thinking like, I'm not needed.
If they're telling girls they don't need men and I'm a man, that means I'm not going to be needed.
Why am I even here?
hannah claire brimelow
I have no purpose.
oli london
And that's why we don't see strong, solid relationships anymore or marriages.
You know, a lot of marriages failing or people just hooking up on apps like Tinder or Bumble because they don't see the purpose of it.
You know, everything is so fast in modern society.
You just go on an app, you find someone new.
So they don't build that connection, which I think is really sad.
ian crossland
That was another thing we were talking about like, uh, 50 years ago.
Your pool, your dating pool was like who you knew and who you were around.
Now, even when you're like married or you're in a fully committed family relationship, if you go to check your, your notifications, you see women's faces, like the faces of hundreds of different women.
It's just such a, like an erotic mess.
I, it's not, it's not natural stimulation.
At least it wasn't up to this now.
Maybe we have to start considering it.
I mean, it's artificial, but it may be coming part of our nature, but it is counterintuitive to the marriage mono, uh, Like monogamy structure.
That's something else this divorce attorney was talking about too.
Jeez, it's a weird, a weird, but I mean if we don't have kids then the human race will not proceed.
tim pool
And this is why young men are skewing conservative.
It's why young men are fans of Andrew Tate and Jordan Peterson.
Because you've got, finally they're being talked to.
They're being explained their value, they're being explained their responsibilities, their opportunities.
And the left, this is really really funny, I think it was Vosh.
Who tweeted something like, the reason young men are becoming conservative is because the right is talking to them.
We need to do this.
And the response from all these leftists was, aw, boohoo, poor men, shut up, spare me, blah blah blah.
And I'm just sitting here laughing, being like, just keep on ragging, just keep on hating.
And more and more guys are gonna be like, screw you, I'm leaving.
ian crossland
At first, I was hurt by a girl.
I blamed her.
It was my fault, a lot of it, in my 20s.
So I was happy to watch this division proceed in 2011, 2012, 2013.
I'm like, good, she deserves it.
All women deserve it.
I was so angry.
But it's like a snowball, an avalanche rolling down a hill.
Once it gets started, it's gone out of control now.
I don't know.
I mean, I'm sure we can grains of sand and kind of slow the thing down because it's not a literal avalanche, but it feels like this momentum of divisiveness between men and women is Has been picking up steam, and that's concerning.
Of course, it's, you know, shit can change really fast with internet.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, I would think movies like Barbie are sort of accelerating this, right?
They're saying men are to blame.
tim pool
I don't know, I thought Barbie was making fun of women.
hannah claire brimelow
I've never seen it so I can't comment accurately.
oli london
I'm sorry, I thought it was more mocking men.
It was basically teaching women don't settle down with a man,
you don't want to get married.
And there was two scenes where there was a pregnant Barbie and you know, Will Ferrell was the CEO of Mattel
and basically they were mocking the pregnant Barbie like she was a discarded model.
So it was teaching, you know, young girls, you know, don't have babies.
And there was a scene at the start, you might've seen it in the trailer
where these kids were on the beach and they had these baby dolls, they were looking after them.
Barbie came along, suddenly they smashed them.
So I thought that was almost a subliminal message telling kids don't have babies or, you know,
because it's not what we want in society anymore.
So.
tim pool
I mean, I didn't see it, but my view from the trailers and the commentary that I have seen is that
if the default presentation of the Barbies is this happy-go-lucky world and
and Thank you.
Then she goes out into the real world and it's not nearly as bad.
I think it shows them as airhead, vapid, stupid, lazy, entitled.
But I didn't see the movie so I don't know.
ian crossland
I got a hot take.
I don't think Margot Robbie's that good of an actor.
oli london
I thought she was good.
ian crossland
When I look at her face, I just don't see... Margot, come on the show.
I still love you.
But she's just popular because she's hot.
Maybe I'm wrong.
Maybe she was great in the movie.
hannah claire brimelow
She's been in a lot of stuff.
oli london
She's a really good actress.
ian crossland
Jared Leto in... what's that movie?
oli london
Harley Quinn.
ian crossland
That movie was awful!
tim pool
Dude, one of the worst movies I've ever seen was Birds of Prey.
ian crossland
Was she in that too?
tim pool
Yes, and it was just so bad.
ian crossland
I saw a couple scenes with her and Ryan, not Ryan Reynolds, Ryan Gosling.
tim pool
I'm actually upset you guys made me remember that movie.
ian crossland
Sorry.
I hate objectifying other actors because good for her doing what she's doing, but I think it's kind of an example of where our society's at with auto-tune and the hot girl gets the lead because she's hot and not because she's the best actress.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, they wanted Amy Schumer originally.
unidentified
For what?
tim pool
Harley Quinn?
ian crossland
And they missed the mark if they didn't hire her.
Amy Schumer is... Lizzo.
hannah claire brimelow
True.
Well, she's got a lot of problems right now.
Would have been an issue.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
Maybe Margot was... Yeah, but they didn't know about the problems when they were doing casting.
hannah claire brimelow
So true.
tim pool
Yeah, it's really funny because they want to do Amy Schumer because they're woke.
And then somebody was like, yeah, but there's a limit.
You know what I mean?
unidentified
Like... You can't just cast everyone all the time everywhere.
tim pool
Yeah.
I don't know.
ian crossland
Someone just said that Margot Robbie produced the movie.
Is that right?
hannah claire brimelow
She was a producer?
oli london
She was, yeah.
tim pool
I don't really care all that much about the Barbie movie.
I don't want to see the Barbie movie.
hannah claire brimelow
What?
Tim, I thought you were a huge Barbie fan.
unidentified
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
He was talking about Barbie all the time.
ian crossland
How big of a fan of Ryan Gosling are you, 1 to 10?
tim pool
Oh, really?
unidentified
100?
hannah claire brimelow
You love him? 100?
ian crossland
I like Ryan.
I think he's awesome.
Oh, I think he's one of the best actors on earth.
tim pool
I mean, I guess it depends on what you're what does one represent?
Like not a fan at all.
And 10 is a big fan.
Not a fan at all.
But doesn't mean I don't like the guy like you don't anything about him.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
Whatever.
He's a dude.
It's fine.
Yeah, he's doing his thing.
Good for him.
He was in Blade Runner.
hannah claire brimelow
He was in A Place Beyond the Pines.
That's how he met his wife, Eva Mendez.
tim pool
Oh, I don't know what that is.
ian crossland
The notebook, and I cried.
Have you seen it?
tim pool
No, I have not.
ian crossland
It'll change you.
Have you seen the notebook?
oli london
I know what it is, but no, I haven't seen it, no.
ian crossland
It's a fantasy.
hannah claire brimelow
Mandatory screening after this.
ian crossland
I'm going to the bathroom.
I love you all.
tim pool
Let's talk about... I want to talk about Sam Harris.
Let's get a little bit podcast esoteric.
We have this clip, and there's been a whole bunch of clips from Sam Harris that have been going around.
For those that aren't familiar, he's a very, very big podcaster, and it appears that he has... I don't know if... I don't think he lost his mind.
I think that he embodies the grift perfectly.
You've got people who are passionate and dedicated to what they believe.
You've got people like Brett Weinstein who are very, very adamant about their beliefs and their expertise.
And then you get Sam Harris who just says whatever the most tepid, centrist, neoliberal thing is, even if it makes no sense, even if you know he knows, he's lying about what he's saying.
So he has this clip.
I'm going to play this clip for you guys.
sam harris
You know, but dial up the, the deadliness of the pathogen, you know, give us something like, you know, airborne Ebola that incubates for a month.
You don't, you don't know you have it and you're, you walk around spreading it and it's got, you know, a 75% fatality rate and it's mostly killing kids.
No one gets to make that choice anymore.
I mean, then literally the, the cops come in and vaccinate you and I would say that all of us would agree to that.
The moment, again, that you turn up the lethality on the pathogen, you turn up the effectiveness of the vaccine, you turn down the risk of the vaccine.
Give me a truly safe vaccine where there's not even one documented case of vaccine injury, right?
So then you just have to be completely crazy to be worried about being vaccinated in that kind of
environment, then it's just a no-brainer.
Then we just don't tolerate a diversity of opinion because the stakes are too high. It's
a full-on emergency. Bodies of kids are being stacked up in parks, right?
There's so many of them, we don't know what to do with them.
We've got these mobile morgues, and we have a vaccine that actually works, and then we've got RFK Jr.
saying, you know, maybe you don't want, you know, maybe you don't want to get the jab on Rogan's podcast, right?
tim pool
So did you hear what he just said about RFK Jr.?
He says, imagine a scenario where it's a 75% mortality rate, the vaccine is perfect, everyone knows it's perfect, and children are dying on the street.
Now RFK is saying, don't Dude is losing it.
No, no, no, no!
RFK was talking about now, you made up a fake scenario in your own mind,
and then criticized RFK for saying something in your own mind.
Dude is losing it.
He's completely losing it.
hannah claire brimelow
This was the bodies in the- like, he could have children's bodies in the basement and I would still vote for him guy,
right?
Like, I don't really understand how he made his career happen when it's based completely apparently in fiction.
tim pool
I wanna- I wanna read this tweet from Dave Smith.
He said, quote, It's just absolutely remarkable.
was completely different, then things would be different.
Imagine if COVID had a 100% death rate and the vaccine was perfectly safe.
RFK looks pretty stupid now.
It's just absolutely remarkable.
I'll tell you what I think Sam Harris is doing.
He just wants to stay on the good side of the machine.
He wants to still maintain some kind of academic contrarian personality type, but he is worried about being on the other side of the machine.
That's it.
So, what he just said made literally no sense.
ian crossland
I missed the best minute probably of my whole life.
tim pool
But I also want to point out, too, this whole statement.
Let's just say you have airborne Ebola.
100% mortality rate or whatever, 30-day incubation, like the worst case scenario!
And then RFK Jr.
comes out and says, maybe you don't want to get the vaccine, and the police are going into people's homes and forcefully vaccinating them.
My response right away is, I don't trust the government.
Sam Harris's world is so insane.
It's like, he lives in this reality where the government is a big marshmallow man that wants to hug you.
Like, bro, the government quite literally is a demon.
It's a gigantic demon with fangs trying to drink your blood.
Okay?
There are some circumstances where that gigantic demon does things for us because there are other gigantic demons trying to drink our blood.
You see what I'm saying?
And so, one day, the gigantic government demon Stops a war from happening like stops an invasion from coming into your home.
You go.
Wow.
Thank you so much demon See this is why we need the demon then the demon grabs someone cracks him in half and drinks their blood and throws their body like the Sam Harris needs to read a history book because Governments throughout history, in almost every single circumstance, are really, really bad.
There's good things that come with government.
Small government, I'm talking like small towns and local stuff, tends to work fairly well, but large-scale stuff tends to be very, very demonic.
And here's a guy so desperate to stay in the neoliberal space that he makes this, he espouses his sophistry.
ian crossland
I wish I'd heard it.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, I think what's strange is the mental gymnastics he has to go through to create a scenario where the world that he wants is correct, where RFK is saying the wrong thing and doing the wrong thing.
So he creates a completely fake scenario.
It seems like the worst talking point of all time.
I'm sure I say weird stuff, too, on the internet.
It seems indicative of the culture he is in where I could give you a completely hypothetical situation that I have made up and then apply it to a real world example that actually has nothing to do with it.
tim pool
I love this response from Tristan Tate.
unidentified
He said, if ifs and buts were candies and nuts.
tim pool
That's an excellent, excellent response to Sam Harris.
I think what happened is and the reason why I want to talk about this is like this is the intellectual dark web guy.
This big podcast, what was this podcast called?
Yeah.
You remember what it was called?
ian crossland
It was Sam Harris something intelligent something.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
I don't know.
unidentified
I'll look it up.
tim pool
And it was him and he would sit around with Joe Rogan and Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson and Dave Rubin and they would talk about all this stuff.
It was like, oh, very fascinating.
And now he's been going out saying- Making sense.
Making sense.
Criticizing Joe Rogan saying he's captured by his audience.
I'm like, bro, that's quite literally you.
Joe Rogan just drank Bud Light!
Joe Rogan, on two occasions, cracked open a Bud Light and said the whole thing was silly, despite the massive backlash against the company.
That's not audience capture.
That's Joe Rogan just being him and doing what he wants to do.
This guy is willing to say whatever nonsense he can to try and stay in the limelight, not piss off the neoliberal establishment.
That's the definition of grifting, I suppose.
ian crossland
Well, I'd like to get him in studio at some point.
It seems like we have a lot of similar friends.
He was just with Modern Wisdom.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Yeah, but he won't do it.
He said in one interview, I'd love to talk with Jordan or Brett about these things.
And then he literally doesn't talk to them.
Or I don't think he mentioned Brett, it was like Jordan and Joe or something, I don't know.
ian crossland
Brett Weinstein.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, and then Brett's like, he literally won't talk to us about this, and Brett's an evolutionary biologist.
So it's just like, he's, he's, he's, he's, it's plastic, man.
unidentified
Yeah, he knows he's supposed to say, oh, no, of course I'd be willing to talk to them, and it's like, then do it immediately, the entire- He knows his argument's flawed, he wouldn't win an argument, so that's why he won't.
hannah claire brimelow
If he's allowed to make up his own facts and everyone agreed with him 100%, then he could win.
So I don't understand.
He can just make up scenarios all day long and he'll be fine, right?
That's what we learned from this interview.
unidentified
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
I think that's so weird to make this hypothetical because you don't like RFK Jr.
so much that you would say, if the virus was more deadly and also vaccines were better and also there was a massive emergency, like, none of those things happened.
Point to one time that has happened where this has been the case.
He can't even cite a historical, like, precedent.
It doesn't make any sense to me.
ian crossland
Is he playing the devil's advocate to the point where he's just become the devil?
tim pool
So I think what happened with him is he has Trump derangement syndrome.
ian crossland
That is so weird coming from a guy that's supposed to be an intellectual.
tim pool
I still don't get it.
Here's what I think happens.
He sees Trump losing and he thinks to himself, oh man, if I'm on the side of Trump, I'm on the wrong side of history.
I'm done.
I'm going to come out and say whatever I have to say to be this centrist, but still in the good side of the machine personality.
That forces him to adopt a bunch of positions that make no sense.
ian crossland
I get that from Neil deGrasse Tyson, too.
I think he just said there was many genders.
He's a scientist and he said that.
I want to be diplomatic with these guys, but it's just to the point where if you're going to be dumb, you're not part of the solution.
tim pool
They're not going to be dumb, they're evil.
ian crossland
Either one or the other.
Either they're plaintively stupid or they're acting maliciously.
So, I don't know.
tim pool
This is a scary reality.
When you see someone like Neil deGrasse Tyson come out and be like, there are more than two genders!
You're like, okay, how much did they pay you?
Because, like, come on, dude.
You can look up any fifth grade science book and it'll tell you about the, I'm sorry, more than two sexes.
You look up any fifth grade biology book, there are two sexes.
ian crossland
Oh, so did he say there's more than two genders?
tim pool
No, he said sexes.
He said that we've learned now.
And then you got that guy, Colin Wright posted this, the guy who said that there are six biological sexes.
It's like these people are unwell.
Two plus two equals five.
Their worldview is shattered.
I don't see how they can build a cohesive community if their worldview makes no sense.
ian crossland
Will?
You know, what I'm thinking about is religion.
How do you build a cohesive community around something that cannot be proved?
Like, if you tell a kid, 2 plus 2 equals 5, but look, here's 2, and here's 2, if you count them, that's 1, 2, 3, 4.
But 2 plus 2 equals 5.
The kid will think, okay, I can accept these things, even though I can't prove why or it doesn't make sense, but I will accept that those are both true.
And so you could make a community around insanity.
tim pool
Now their logical pathways, their reasoning breaks because now they can't connect dots.
ian crossland
Do you think that, I don't want to get too deep into religion, but people that just blindly accept, have faith in things that are unprovable, that they have like broken logic pathways?
tim pool
No.
ian crossland
Do you have to break your logic pathway to believe something without proof?
tim pool
No.
What do you mean?
ian crossland
Well, without evidential proof, why would you ever believe it?
tim pool
So, let's say you stumble across a spattering of chocolate on your floor.
And there is a cake on your counter that is destroyed.
Something ate your cake and got the chocolate on the floor.
The first thing we do is we make an assumption.
We form a hypothesis.
Okay, I'm gonna go ahead and assume that someone smashed and destroyed the cake.
That's apparent by the fact the cake is smashed and destroyed.
I'm now going to assume that it was not a human who did it because a human would not flip the cake and the chocolate onto the ground.
Hold on!
Why would you believe something without proof?
Why would you operate under this concept?
Without actually having been able to prove it.
The only way to lead yourself to prove it is if you operate under the assumption it is potentially true.
So now you're sitting here saying, it's going to take me a while to figure out what happened to this cake, but I think it was an animal that did it.
Okay, now we assess how many animals we have, and now we have a cat, we have a dog.
Likely not going to be the cat.
Maybe the cat though.
The cat maybe like boop booped it off the counter.
Maybe the dog jumped up and got it.
We're going to choose a hypothesis and then we're going to pursue it.
We are going to operate under an assumption so that we can try and figure out the truth.
Now it may turn out to be that both the cat and the dog are covered in chocolate and you're going to have to operate without being able to know for sure.
My point here is, that's logic.
If you can look at a cake on the ground and flip it over and be like, okay, none of the humans here did this, right?
It's possible they did, but unlikely they did, so I'm not going to pursue that course of investigation.
That's using logic.
Now, if a child can't understand the concepts because they've been told 2 plus 2 equals 5, they look at the cake on the ground, they look at the cake on the counter, they see the smash that's chucked on the floor, and they go, A rabbit broke into my house and got my cake?
Oh wow, they'll be more likely to believe... Nonsensical, insane things that you should not be led to believe.
You get what I'm saying?
ian crossland
Oh yeah.
tim pool
Like, you pointed out pretty well, you say 2 and 2, right?
That equals 4.
But then these leftists come out and say 2 plus 2 equals 5.
But if you take the pencils and lay them out, you go 1, 2, 3, 4.
Hey, wait a minute, that's not 5.
Now if the kid is like, no, but it is 5!
And there's no fifth pen there.
It's nonsense.
ian crossland
For the record, what they're saying is 2.3 plus 2.3 equals 4.6.
When you round it up, that's 5.
When you round it up, that's 5.
2.3 rounded down is 2.
So technically, but generally, but it's not technically right, and it's not even generally right.
It's literally false.
That's not mathematics either.
So I don't, yeah, I don't...
tim pool
It's literally false.
They're just trying to manipulate people's ability to formulate complex ideas.
ian crossland
Sort of like a Sam Harris argument.
If things were slightly different, then the outcome would have been... And then you have RFK saying, don't take the vaccine.
tim pool
It's like, wait, what?
hannah claire brimelow
In the alternate reality I've made up for myself, I can't believe what RFK Jr.
you're a saint, which is based not in reality at all.
tim pool
It's like some angry teenage girl in the shower thinking about like, well, you know, that
guy was so mean to me, I bet he said this, ha, he's so dumb.
ian crossland
It's like, and then they start to believe that it actually happened.
hannah claire brimelow
It's the human equivalent of, like, AI-generated images.
Like, if I can be like, I want exactly this scenario, and now RFK is wrong.
Like, it's so ridiculous.
I just don't understand, like, what he was trying to accomplish with this argument.
tim pool
But I think the big picture here with what the left is doing in terms of attacking the ability to reason and logic is that kids are going to grow up, and they're going to be unable to understand the world or solve problems.
That's the point.
That's why they attack math.
ian crossland
I gotta ask you, Ali, because we're about to go to Super Chats, but I think maybe your book ties into this.
Can you tell me really kind of briefly, like, what is this book?
What's it about and what happened?
oli london
So, Gender Madness is basically talking about all these issues of kids being confused online.
So, you know, kids taking to TikTok for validation and how that algorithm manipulates them.
It's also about how schools are, you know, teachers are in some cases transitioning kids without the parents even knowing.
And you know, I've got a lot of research in the book about data which actually counters the mainstream narrative.
And you know, mainstream narrative says there's no detransitioners, it's a very low rate, everybody's happy, all these kids live happily ever after, right?
We know that's not true.
It's just like we're talking about, you know, these people, they reject the reality.
They want you to reject the logic that, you know, cutting off a girl's breasts is a good thing to do because it's not.
But they want us to believe that that is a good thing.
So the book covers all these issues.
It covers how people can fall victim to this kind of gender ideology and indoctrination.
What are the solutions out there?
Sweden has reversed their policy.
They were the pioneers in gender transitions on kids.
They have now stopped doing puberty blockers and hormones on minors.
We have the UK that is also passing similar laws.
So we see Europe is slightly ahead of the US and the US is currently where it's all happening.
There's been an explosion in the last five years.
So it's really covering all of these issues and what we can do to speak up for these kids and speak up for parents.
So it's out in a couple of days.
tim pool
Let's talk about a lot more of this in the Members Only show.
We'll get really in-depth on this stuff.
We can get not so family-friendly.
But we're going to go to Super Chat.
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We're going to talk more about these issues of gender ideology.
And there are some Some really shocking social media posts from people who have detransitioned that are very, very sad that we will bring up, and I think you guys need to hear this.
You need to hear what these young people are saying.
They're asking where their parents were to have helped them and prevented this, and we'll save it, but we'll read some more Super Chats.
Oh, we'll start reading Super Chats.
Alright, I'm not your buddy guy, says...
I wanted to get your opinion on the Michigan election integrity issues recently revealed.
However, I gotta say this song, Rich Men North of Richmond by Oliver Anthony really hit me deep, and you all need to hear it.
Finally should see if you can get Douglas Murray on.
I have seen only a little bit about the Michigan election stuff, and I've asked some friends about it.
I don't know enough about it as of right now.
ian crossland
And the guy singing that song he mentioned is giving one of the performances of a lifetime.
You should find the video and listen to it.
It's incredible.
tim pool
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
says, Tim, don't you tell me that I'm the only one when you have something to celebrate you don't call your homeboys over so you can cuddle up and kiss?
So at 6pm, for those that are confused, I saw a tweet from Tristan Tate that said, straight men cuddle and kiss sometimes in bromances, and then I looked up the story and it had been popping up on Reddit in a lot of these LGBTQ community pages, and they were like, this is totally legit, straight men hug, kiss, and cuddle all the time.
Bros always snuggle, and I'm like, No, no, no, they don't.
Bros don't snuggle.
Like, there's a picture of two men kissing, and it's like, if you're a straight man, sometimes you want to kiss your homie, and I'm like...
What?!
And apparently, Metro published a story in 2017 where there was a study done that found that straight men, it said, and I think they're just trying to lie to kids.
Like, they're trying to trick people into thinking that stuff's normal.
Dudes aren't doing this.
Like, it's just not happening.
It said, when surveyed, most men said that when they're hanging out with their friends, their straight male friends, they will sometimes walk around naked, snuggle with each other, and kiss on the lips.
ian crossland
I'm like, dude, those are gay people, and there's no problem with being gay.
tim pool
Just say you're gay.
Don't say you're a straight guy.
And I'm like, if they surveyed a guy who claimed to be straight, but then also he kissed his male friends on the lips, he's just in the closet, dude.
That's all I'll say.
He's not straight.
But I thought that was funny, so I did a segment on it.
That's what Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
is referring to.
4Brit says, when you start selling your chickens, you should call them cast-brewed chickens.
It'll match your cast-brewed coffee.
Love you guys.
It's the Chicken City strain.
We have, um, we have to figure out Roberto, Roberto Jr.' 's children.
And, um, we believe he has, he has three, two or three sons.
hannah claire brimelow
How are you going to decide who gets to be the new king of the castle over there?
The new sheriff in town?
tim pool
Yeah, someone is going to become the heir to the Roberto lineage, and it's not always, you know, sometimes... It's not always age-based in our culture.
Well, no, I mean, look, there's many stories of the king has two sons, and then one child is chosen over the other, and then the brother is angry.
Why wasn't I chosen to be the heir to the throne?
Why is my brother?
You know, these other roosters are going to have to deal with it.
hannah claire brimelow
On the next season of Chicken City.
tim pool
Yeah, Roberto the Third.
ian crossland
I think maybe an overthrow of the entire Beaks lineage may be in order.
I'm bullish on Luke.
Luke's got the hair, man.
That guy looks like a dog.
I'll say it again.
hannah claire brimelow
Are his feet still weird?
tim pool
Maybe.
He's actually pretty nice.
Apparently, he'll crawl into your lap and you can pet him and stuff and he's super chill.
Yeah.
But Luke Gretkowski tweeted about it.
Because he's named after Luke.
But no, no, the Beaks dynasty will be forever.
We are going to have this great history of, you know, generations of the Beaks.
ian crossland
Let's hope that it does not devolve into civil war.
tim pool
It won't.
So, you know, Roberto, they're all his kids.
Like, Roberto, the one rooster, he's got like 80 children.
ian crossland
Zoosted up, dude.
tim pool
Yeah, he's just... Well, no, he's got probably like 50, but then he's got a bunch of grandkids, too.
Like, man, this dude, he had kids.
And he's back!
The king has returned.
Yeah, but apparently him and Luke don't get along, and they tried to spur each other.
ian crossland
Yeah, I think Roberto, he's like battle-hardened now, spending all that time.
tim pool
Well, he's always been.
He's always been pretty tough.
I think it's because he got Napoleon Complex, because when... they thought he was a girl.
hannah claire brimelow
And Luke can't be, I can't remember all of, when all the chickens arrived, but he can't be the sheriff because he's not actually a descendant of Roberto Jr., right?
Or is he?
tim pool
Well, that's obvious.
You know, he's a usurper, but the bigger issue is that he has a domed head.
And so if he gets pecked in the head, he'll just die.
ian crossland
Yeah, you don't want to make a weak, a weak chicken the king.
tim pool
But we gotta go look.
Roberto Jr.' 's kids are all still very, very young.
They're only a few weeks, I think.
And so we need to figure out who's the boys and who's the girls.
hannah claire brimelow
What if there aren't any boys?
tim pool
What are you gonna do?
unidentified
No, there aren't.
oli london
What if there are trans chickens?
tim pool
Well, we thought Roberto was.
No, we thought Roberto was.
So we bought, I think we got eight baby chicks that were supposed to be chickens.
We didn't want a rooster.
We just wanted chickens.
We wanted just eight.
And then two of them died.
And then one of them started one day went, and we were like, what the hell was that?
And then I'm like, why are that?
Why would a hen grunt?
And they're called alpha where the alpha hens or something like that, where if there's no male, a female will become like masculine and be basically trans chicken.
No, for real.
We'll start acting like a rooster.
And then people were just like, yo, I think that's just a rooster.
And then I'm like, what?
And then the success rate of successfully gendering, uh, sexing the baby chicks is like only 9 out of 10, 90%.
So we ended up getting a rooster.
Then I'm like, well, now we got a rooster.
And then he started, you know, doing his thing once he got old enough.
And then we had eggs and we incubated them.
And, uh, Roberto Jr.
and, uh, Maggie and Bernie were the, uh, first three chickens.
unidentified
Aw.
tim pool
Yeah.
So Roberto, Roberto Jr.
hannah claire brimelow
And that was like two years ago?
tim pool
Two years ago.
It was almost exactly two years ago.
ian crossland
I remember it so well in the front yard.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I remember when they were in the front yard in the garden.
tim pool
And Roberto Jr.
we had in the house in our room in a little cage because he was super tiny.
And he'd run around and jump up on the bed and stuff.
And we had to clean up poop all the time.
It was really awful and disgusting.
ian crossland
Oh yeah, he'd tear it up on the bar downstairs too.
tim pool
I think because he was the first of the breeding, there were some issues.
He had a messed up foot that was indicative of some kind of malnourishment.
And when Roberto Jr.
was first crowing, he would pass out.
Dude, his crows are the most unique, and I will do it again for imposterity.
and just fall hit the ground and we are like something's wrong with him.
But what do you do, right? There's not much we can do and so
this explains why he probably had a heart attack and died.
ian crossland
Dude his crows are the most unique and I will do it again for imposterity. I love you, Junior.
You could hear him really struggling.
tim pool
Thanks for that.
unidentified
Let's read some more.
ian crossland
Mad love.
tim pool
Alright, Waffle Censuses haven't been notified for the show in three days.
It must be election season.
That's right!
That's why you guys should copy, click share, grab the URL, post it wherever you can, because YouTube doesn't want other people to watch this show.
That's right.
Yanet Santana says, Hi Oli, glad you came through all the madness.
I follow you on X. Ian, move to Cuba.
Hi Tim.
Hello.
ian crossland
Cuba!
Cuba?
Soy Cubano.
tim pool
You're talking about Cuba?
When Mr. Burns says he wants to live in their socialist paradise.
And then Fidel's like, you're talking about Cuba?
And then he steals the trillion dollar bill.
He's like, can I see it?
And Mr. Burns is like, I don't know.
He's like, okay.
And then he goes like, okay, and I give it back.
Give what back?
The trillion dollar bill.
Classic Simpsons, man.
What do we got here?
Kay Som says Matt Walsh axed Oliver Anthony's Rich Men North of Richmond.
I cannot stop listening to him.
Gotta check that song out, I guess.
Everybody's talking about it.
hannah claire brimelow
It's been blowing up since this morning.
tim pool
Oh, oh, I think I saw that.
It's the guy playing guitar in the wooded area or whatever.
Oh, yeah, yeah, I saw that.
That was really good.
ian crossland
It's an example of what makes great music, in my opinion.
There's no auto-tune.
It's just a dude.
hannah claire brimelow
I also love this idea that people are just like, hey, this is a really good song.
I've got to tell it to you.
Instead of it being a big music company that's saying, we're going to have a radio release, and now everyone's going to hear it.
There's something cool about the organic nature of this.
tim pool
Look at this.
Barack Tobias Obama says Bidenomics backwards is skim one dib.
Skim's definition is to remove or embezzle, and dib means money.
Just found that odd.
ian crossland
Wow.
tim pool
That proves it!
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Dovahkin said, fun fact, when Oprah Winfrey bought her property, she had the road connecting Kihei to Kula shut down.
It more than doubled the drive time between the two towns.
The locals hate her more than anyone.
Well, why would anyone allow her to do that?
Look, you know...
I just don't know.
I just don't know.
People being like, we live in a small community and a very wealthy person is shutting our roads down.
Shucks.
It's like, bro, you got a bad police department, you got a bad mayor's office.
You gotta get these people out.
You gotta vote them out.
I don't know.
Grofty has a 20 for Ian.
I don't know what it was for, but you know, there you go.
ian crossland
Grofty.
tim pool
There you go.
94Made said, imagine if someone could manipulate weather and cause disasters like this.
But that'd be crazy, huh?
Well, we did end up talking about and speculating whether or not China had space lasers.
Well, actually, I'm sorry, China does have space lasers.
The question is, can those space lasers start fires?
ian crossland
Oh, and I looked into it from Lasersafetyfacts.com.
Apparently, regular, I guess you would call these consumer-grade lasers, no.
The redder the laser, the hotter, so like green lasers are less hot, I think.
I'm not an expert, and correct me if I'm wrong, and that they don't go very far.
So infrared?
If it was infrared lasers, you're talking about lasers you can't see?
That's not on the list.
But it's only like 30 feet that a red laser can start a fire.
tim pool
Yeah, but you're in consumer grade.
ian crossland
Yeah, consumer grade lasers.
So these high powered military, who knows if they're even lasers?
tim pool
Google search megawatt laser.
I think that's like a psychotically powerful laser.
What does it say?
Because I think, I think kilowatt lasers are crazy.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, the lasers I was looking at were... Megawatts are when Trump creates them.
ian crossland
Megawatts?
tim pool
Mega?
ian crossland
Yeah, I'm looking at like 5,000 milliwatt lasers.
I don't think that's very much.
tim pool
Yeah, like, I think, I think the kilowatt lasers are the ones that start fires.
I'm not sure.
Like a megawatt laser would be nuts.
hannah claire brimelow
So you think if it comes out and someone's like, the cause of this fire was arson, you're gonna feel more like there's credibility?
unidentified
Or you're gonna feel like it's, it's more like- There's no way they would tell us if it was.
tim pool
If the reality was that China could start fires with satellites, the last thing they want is for the US to panic that there's something you're gonna get hit with a laser.
All right.
I fly mile high, says Tim.
I once had a conversation with a resident of mine.
Five minutes later, I sit down and see an advertisement for the company on his shirt.
I have never heard of the company before, nor looked it up.
We live in a simulation.
It's procedurally generated.
That's why the ads are such.
Because the AI isn't that sophisticated.
We're all playing some kind of video game.
Oh, and I ordered one of those VR treadmill things.
hannah claire brimelow
What's a VR treadmill?
tim pool
Yeah, it's like, uh, it's a bowl you stand on and strap into, and then you have these special shoes, and when you run, you can't actually move, and you can, like, turn.
ian crossland
We gotta get all the haptic stuff now, like gloves and vests, so you can feel yourself getting hit.
tim pool
I'll put together a list.
ian crossland
Okay.
tim pool
And then we'll make a video about it or something.
ian crossland
Yeah, it's gonna be great.
tim pool
But I got the thing, it's got this thing you strap into, and then when you put the headset on, you can play a video game where you actually run on the treadmill.
ian crossland
Can you jump?
unidentified
No.
ian crossland
Does the harness hold you?
You can't jump.
They got super advanced ones coming out.
hannah claire brimelow
Do they market it for video games or like as an exercise?
tim pool
Video games.
Well, both actually.
hannah claire brimelow
Because like... Do you guys remember Wii Fitness?
It would be like, you can be on the Wii and work out.
tim pool
Dude, you wanna lose weight?
Play that, um, what is it called?
Space Pirate Trainer?
Yeah, that game's awesome.
unidentified
On the Oculus.
tim pool
Dude, that game is so much fun.
And, uh, for those that aren't familiar, you're basically just standing on the small platform, there's a bunch of little robots that fly around, and you have different types of guns and you're shooting at them, and you can also pull out a shield and, uh, like a lightsaber and whack them.
ian crossland
It's all around you.
You spin around like 360 doing martial arts.
hannah claire brimelow
I played that one on the Oculus and then there's one where you're like an assassin or something you're like killing people or whatever but I was in the skate park when I did it and you have to like punch someone who's coming close to you and I punched the wall.
tim pool
You gotta set the boundaries!
hannah claire brimelow
I didn't do it well so now I've retired from my VR video game days.
unidentified
You punched the wall.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah it was like square and then I had to like lift up the glasses and I was like oh man.
It did hurt, but it made me feel like I had a lot of street cred.
I felt like a true video game person.
You draw the boundaries and you... I think I had just messed it up because I'm not very good at it.
tim pool
But that's the thing, with this treadmill thing, you stand on it, you can't go anywhere.
hannah claire brimelow
It's much safer.
tim pool
So, when you're in it, you can move around.
They gotta make one where you can jump.
Yeah.
ian crossland
And duck, too, if you can, like... Well, you can definitely crouch.
Dude, when you can jump and, like, go on your stomach and, like, fly, that's gonna be... I mean, I think there are ones that do that.
Jumping's key.
Also, can you take wide steps or is it one of the smaller ones where you've got to keep your legs together?
tim pool
I have no idea how big it is.
Yeah, there's a new one called the Omni One that has this single arm that connects to a harness and then it spins around.
That's not available yet.
They're doing this ad campaign where they're like, invest in the company or whatever, but there's other treadmills you can get.
hannah claire brimelow
Then you're off to a padded room if you're me.
ian crossland
Yeah, we can do multiplayer with that.
It's gonna be wild.
tim pool
Justin G says, to your point, Tim, I remember when I saw my first total solar eclipse.
Total letdown compared to what I expected, thanks to Hollywood and social media.
Dude, you ever see those photographs where it's like, there's a- the moon is really, really big, and there's like a person standing there, and you're like, wow, how did they get a picture of the moon so big?
They're very, very far away, and there's a telephoto lens, and they zoom in, and it makes the moon look big compared to the backdrop.
All of this stuff, man.
So much of life is just made to look more magical than it really is.
And then you go somewhere, and you're like, oh, that's cool, I guess.
You know?
The colors are always saturated.
You go to Denmark, and you see those photos of, like, in Denmark, those colorful houses.
And you go, everything's a bit more dull than that.
They brighten the colors.
Come here!
The candy is covered in salt.
It's not delicious.
It's rather awful.
hannah claire brimelow
People sue the fast food chains that use styrofoam to make their burgers look bigger.
I mean, everything's an illusion.
ian crossland
Oh, wow.
hannah claire brimelow
There are two big lawsuits with that.
tim pool
What they do with burgers is when they make the burger, first of all, it's like not even
a real burger, but they'll cut it, a triangle in the back, and then spread it out.
So you can't see the back of the burger.
It looks wide.
It's such scumbaggery.
Dude, anybody who's ever seen a commercial for a Big Mac knows you ain't getting that
when you order it.
How can they- That's false advertising.
Taco Bell!
Come on.
Ain't no way someone's gonna try and tell me that what I see on the menu is what they're giving me because it's always like- I love Taco Bell, by the way.
But it's always smashed, you know?
And you're just like, nah, come on.
hannah claire brimelow
There really was a big class action lawsuit against McDonald's I believe and there might be one against Taco Bell right now of people who are like showing the advertisement and saying like this was not it because there there is a certain amount of manipulation they're allowed to do to make the food look better but they're saying like it's the reading these are really funny because it'll be like it's 50% cheesier than advert or less cheesy than advertise and like you want to be like who is spending the time writing this lawsuit but I mean the consumers aren't happy.
oli london
Did you see that crazy viral video yesterday on Twitter with that?
I think it was a man in a costume.
He had this kind of weird neck mask and he was in McDonald's complaining about the fries.
Did you see that one?
ian crossland
Yeah, I didn't look into it.
oli london
I think it was fake.
There's so many people saying, oh, it was a man in a mask or it was a general woman, but they had this weird mask, almost like Bo Selector, if you ever saw that.
It was a comedy show in the UK.
Weird, but it was all over the internet.
It was actually really funny.
But yeah, people have divided whether it's a real person or just someone in a mask, you know, trying to be a Karen for attention to go viral, basically.
tim pool
Everybody in the chat's ragging on Taco Bell.
KP says Taco Bell's an awesome laxative.
I actually don't have any issues when I eat Taco Bell.
I was surprised because I didn't have it for a decade or whatever and then I decided I was, I think I was on like Grubhub or something and Taco Bell popped up and I'm like, I haven't ordered Taco Bell in a long time.
Had no problems whatsoever.
Actually felt decently well after having it.
Had some recently and also, easily well.
However, however, Uh, someone said, uh, let's see, simulacra virus as Taco Bell blows.
Well, it's certainly not food.
I don't know.
It tastes great, though.
And then Diego Zion says, Taco Bell does not look appetizing ever.
WTF.
Fair point.
Fair point.
And someone else called it dog food.
Okay, I accept it.
hannah claire brimelow
But the thing is, Taco Bell pioneered staying open super late.
And even now in this area, it's open the latest.
So if you want food after, I don't know, your late night podcasting thing, you know, you go to Taco Bell.
unidentified
We also did free refills, so you can hang out there for a long time.
tim pool
And as a skateboarder tradition, after we finished skating, we'd get Taco Bell, and then you'd get Baja Blast.
But have you ever, have you seen the meme where it's like, Taco Bell, it's four in the morning, and there's like a Maserati, and then like a 1992 Chevy.
hannah claire brimelow
The Great Equalizer.
tim pool
The Great Equalizer.
Everybody's just trying to live mas.
Yo, we went to Taco Bell last weekend, and it was like, I don't remember what time it was, it was like 10 or something, and that's exactly what we saw.
There were like two sports cars in the front looking really nice and then regular cars behind and I was like, man, people really just want to live mass.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, they do.
And Taco Bell is interesting because they have their like, number one, it's popular among vegans and vegetarians because they have more options.
But also they have their cantinas where they're like different restaurants where they can serve alcohol.
There's some in like major cities.
So as a brand, I actually think they're really interesting.
They can't Make you eat there if you don't want to.
tim pool
I've seen how they make the food because there's an Instagrammer who like his account is like Taco Bell prep.
It's disgusting.
ian crossland
Oh, why?
tim pool
It's so nasty.
Like the beans are a bag of powder that they pour into like a vat and then it like it's just like a gel that reconstitutes.
When they grab the beef, I'm just like I do not want to eat it.
hannah claire brimelow
But then we end up at Taco Bell.
tim pool
But the cheese is fine.
unidentified
Is it?
tim pool
Yeah, the cheese is fine.
ian crossland
I used to love it in the 90s.
tim pool
I don't like wheat tortillas.
ian crossland
Yeah, I'm away from that now.
Corn tortillas.
tim pool
And even then, I try to avoid that.
You know, if I go... We go to... There's a really, really great Mexican restaurant called Mi De Goyado, which apparently means, like, slitting a man's throat in Spanish.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
Yeah, apparently.
But it's amazing, and it's out here in West Virginia.
So I always get the fajitas, and I just say, no tortillas.
And then it's just, yeah, it's like as healthy as healthy can be.
It's chicken, peppers, and onions.
You know, how you gonna go wrong with that?
I call it real Taco Bell.
All right, a green clover says the lasers from China could be from LIDAR mapping bunkers and ideal targets for a first strike.
unidentified
Yep.
hannah claire brimelow
But China said it was nothing.
They said it was nothing to worry about, right?
So we should trust them.
ian crossland
They're just looking for pollution centers.
oli london
They said that about COVID, didn't they, when it first came out?
They said, oh, it's nothing to worry about.
It's fine.
We're containing it.
And look what happened.
So we can't trust their word.
tim pool
Christopher Marr says, Tim, you should make a Rise with Roberto Jr.
zombie version with a foot coming out of the ground or Roberto Jr.
coffee strong enough to wake the dead.
Also rip Roberto Jr.
hannah claire brimelow
I love that comment because it's like, let's make fun of the fact that he died.
Also rip.
tim pool
How about for Halloween, we make a blend called Re-Rise with Roberto Jr.?
ian crossland
He's back.
tim pool
We'll do only a couple hundred of them, and it'll be like a premium roast, you know, limited edition Halloween blend.
ian crossland
I'll drink it.
hannah claire brimelow
That'd be funny.
That'd be cool.
I mean, most brands roll out the pumpkin spice in the fall and you guys would have a Halloween blend.
tim pool
Re-rise with Roberto Jr.
and it'll be a zombie foot coming out of a... We're giving him a Viking funeral this Sunday, I think.
ian crossland
Oh, I'm gonna miss it.
tim pool
So we have a pond.
And so we're going to make a little boat, put reeds on it, place him on it.
We're going to tie a rock to a string, tie the end to the little boat and throw it into the middle of the pond so that it anchors it.
And then we're going to, you know, throw a little fire on it.
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
Yeah, give him a little Viking funeral.
Yeah, poor little guy.
He didn't have a good heart, we don't think.
ian crossland
Great rooster.
tim pool
But they're chickens!
I mean, in any other world, he probably would have been food.
ian crossland
He would have been killed and eaten when he started herding the hens.
tim pool
Well, what they do is they call it giving them to nature.
Because you don't want boys.
So when you're naturally hatching the eggs, when you get boys, you just take them out of the coop and place them on the ground.
And that's it.
You walk away.
And the little dude just isn't there tomorrow.
Well, that's giving them back to nature.
We've got, uh, like ten roosters at Cocktown, over at Freedomistan.
And I'm like, why do we have these roosters?
Let's eat them.
They're food.
One of, like, they've been fighting, because they don't really, they're not, they don't really, like, the idea of roosters killing each other is not really true, only if there's girls around.
So they're mostly fine, but they're not living well, and I'm like, let's just put them in a pressure cooker, man, and then have some rooster stew.
ian crossland
Do you need to get them checked for parasites or anything?
tim pool
Uh, I, no, I, I, we've raised them, and I don't think we have to worry about that.
They're fed, farm, like, organic, good stuff.
But, um, Chris doesn't want to eat them, so I was like, okay, then let's just open the door.
Let them go do their thing.
You know what I really would love this idea?
If we had like 50 roosters.
I envision this fox like sneaking up onto the property and like hearing the rooster crow and thinking I'm gonna get me some food.
And then he like sees one rooster sitting there looking around you know bobbing its head and the fox is like oh yeah and the fox creeps up and then it jumps for the rooster and then all of a sudden like there's 300 roosters with glowing eyes looking at the fox and the fox is like no!
What is this?
And then the roosters eat the fox instead?
unidentified
That'd be awesome.
tim pool
Yeah, that'd be so cool.
ian crossland
Roosters being like... That'd be a good commercial for Stand Your Grounds.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
In memory of Roberto Jr.
All right, we'll grab a couple more Super Chats.
What do we got over here?
Eric Elman says, Tim, multiple Canada fires not started by satellite lasers.
And Tim, Hawaii fires could have been started by satellite laser.
So, what I said was the most likely scenario in Hawaii is that someone's cow kicked over a lantern.
Alright?
The most likely scenario in Canada was there was actually a map showing a bunch of lightning strikes.
Now, could there have been, you know, attacks by, yeah, for sure.
I'm not, I'm not, like, I'm literally calling it a conspiracy theory and just talking about weapons capabilities.
But I gotta, I gotta be honest.
I'm willing to bet some lady's cow kicked over a lantern.
You guys know that reference, right?
ian crossland
Yeah, she's a great Chicago fan.
tim pool
I don't know if that was a unique to Chicago thing and I was like saying that.
hannah claire brimelow
We all observe Chicago culture in this house.
ian crossland
What's her name?
tim pool
We ordered Portillo's today.
unidentified
Oh, cool.
tim pool
Yeah, maybe we should have hot dogs.
hannah claire brimelow
I went to a Portillo's for the first time over the summer and it was very cool.
tim pool
You want to talk about fast food, okay?
Portillo's is the best.
Ever.
unidentified
No question.
ian crossland
My only question is, do they have green dye in the relish?
Because it's very green.
tim pool
No, no, no, no.
I'm pretty sure they don't.
There's a lot.
Yeah, relish, it's just good.
ian crossland
It's really good.
tim pool
I think we should have a... Good question though, because I thought that too.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I think we should have a board game or card game where we like create conspiracy theories because you know
you were just Speculating about the lasers. We should be allowed to talk
unidentified
freely volcanic blasts and stuff
hannah claire brimelow
Like cards against humanity, but instead of I don't know whatever they were doing you make conspiracy like false
tim pool
false flags Oh, that is a good idea for a game like kind of like cards
against humanity, but you have different Conspiracy theories and so everyone gets dealt cards, and
ian crossland
then so you like a result and a conspiracy It's like the tinfoil hat version.
tim pool
That's a good idea!
And then people will, like, there will be three sets of cards.
there will be like conspiracy and result, and then there will be like the scandal or something, right?
So someone draws a card and it says like, wildfires were started in Canada.
And then everyone has to choose two cards explaining what happened.
ian crossland
Billy's explosive fart, you know, stuff like that.
Well, obviously that isn't it.
tim pool
One of them will be like, cow kicks over a lantern.
And then the other one is, you know, causing a massive explosion,
which destroys three small towns.
And then you, like, play it down, and then people will vote on who they think is the funniest, and then just like that, you know, you win.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
That'd be fun.
Alright, you've heard it, who wants to make it?
Also, we should probably open source the video game.
ian crossland
Love the idea.
tim pool
I think we should create a Discord room, and we'll put the code out in the video game Discord server, people can just make the game.
ian crossland
That's a good idea.
It's Game Maker, I think?
tim pool
Yeah.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
That would be good.
Matthew Draga says, my family just bought a restaurant in Lahaina that used to be a chart house.
We were renovating it and now it's gone.
I'm not looking for sympathy.
Lots of people lost their homes.
Pray for Maui.
Man, sorry to hear it.
ian crossland
Speaking of, Kellen sent us a map on Twitter.
You could pull up if you want from Steve Luckner.
It's at Luckner, L-O-O-K-N-E-R, and it's a map of all the houses that were destroyed in the fire.
All this red stuff.
I don't know if it's accurate, but it's devastating to look at.
unidentified
Apparently there's a lot of houses.
ian crossland
And it's a lot of coastal stuff.
I guess it's that they're all on the coast, and then there's mountain.
They can't really get up in the mountain.
unidentified
I don't think so.
tim pool
I'm not your junior, Raymond.
That's a very good name, says.
Dandelions have medicinal properties in the sap.
All parts are edible.
Leaves taste a bit like kale.
Boil the roots for hours to make soup.
Nectar makes a delicious jelly.
Bees love them.
Dandelions are the chicken of the plant world.
I grew up with dandelions being garbage and we're like trying to get rid of them and then I learned out here that they were actually brought here intentionally because they were medicinal and you can look up Appalachian dandelion recipes.
They batter and deep fry them and apparently they taste like mushrooms.
So actually Ian started it when he mentioned dandelion tea and then we were at I think Mom's Organic and we bought some.
We bought a couple different kinds and it was the best tea I've ever had.
I was like, I can't remember what it was, I think it was like vanilla dandelion or something.
And I was like, this is amazing!
ian crossland
And those circular ones?
tim pool
Yeah.
ian crossland
Those are so good.
tim pool
So good.
hannah claire brimelow
Some people use, is it dandelion tea or dandelion, some combination of fruits as a replacement for coffee.
They say don't drink the coffee, drink this, it'll give you the energy boost.
A very nice tradesman mountain man when I moved to West Virginia told me that.
tim pool
Wow.
hannah claire brimelow
Yep.
tim pool
All right, let's grab some more.
What do you have this?
Nina A says, rest easy Roberto.
Roberto Jr.
Roberto, his dad, is still around.
All right.
Purple says, give Tim his Viking funeral.
I fully intend to have a Viking funeral when I die.
And it has been declared as so.
So this is in the public record.
hannah claire brimelow
On the pond?
tim pool
No, wherever legal.
ian crossland
It'll be like in Norway with legit Vikings too.
tim pool
That'd be cool.
ian crossland
That'd be awesome.
tim pool
But I thought about this when I was younger.
It's like, why would you want to be embalmed and put in a box and buried?
That sounds horrifying.
Nah, put me on a boat, kick me out to sea, and set me on fire.
ian crossland
What about being shot into space?
tim pool
I don't know.
ian crossland
That's weird.
tim pool
Alright everybody, if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, head over to TimCast.com, click join us, become a member, because we're going to talk about some spicy, not-so-family-friendly issues, but you should join the conversation.
We've got a lot of gender ideology issues to discuss, and that'll be up in a few minutes.
You can follow the show at TimCast IRL, you can follow me personally at TimCast.
Ollie, do you want to shout anything out?
oli london
Yeah, so anyone that's interested in gender ideology and trying to tackle this, please pre-order my book, Gender Madness, right now and let's, you know, solve this issue together, let's talk about this issue, have a conversation, let's do what's best for kids.
ian crossland
Do you have a website in particular you'd like people to buy it from?
oli london
So it's on Amazon, Barnes and Nobles, Walmart and you know for all of this gender ideology exposing I do a lot on my Twitter so at OllyLondonTV so people can find it on there and you know I'm always sharing all of these woke stories and new legislation that's being introduced in different states because I think it's very important that people go and testify against these bills that are trying to force legislation for gender affirming care.
I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlow.
Democrats try to push it through without people and residents even realizing. So
I highlight a lot of that on my Twitter and I think it's important to
unidentified
share that. That's awesome. Well it's been awesome to have you here. Thank you.
hannah claire brimelow
I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlow. I'm a writer for TimCast.com.
You should follow TimCastNews on Twitter and Instagram.
Definitely check out the story that Chris Burtman published today about Florida and what's going on there.
It's really interesting.
He was talking about it in the office.
If you want to follow me personally, you can follow me on Instagram at hannaclaire.b or on Twitter at hcbromo.
Thank you so much.
ian crossland
Thanks for all your work, man.
Really cool.
I followed you on Twitter.
unidentified
Thanks.
ian crossland
At OlliLondonTV.
Big pleasure.
Great.
So catch you later, man.
Gender Madness.
Thanks for coming, dude.
Pick it up on Amazon or wherever books are sold.
I'm Ian Cross, and I will see you later.
unidentified
Yep.
Pleasure to see you, Oli, as always.
Iamsurge.com.
Ready for this after show.
Let's just get to it.
tim pool
We will see you all over at TimCast.com.
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