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Aug. 4, 2023 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Timcast IRL - RIOTS ERUPT IN NYC, Teen Takeover Goes INSANE Over Kai Cenat Promo w/ALX & Alex Stein
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tim pool
so in New York City there's crazy videos going around People are jumping on cars, there's riding, they're smashing windows, they're jumping on taxis.
People are freaking out, all because this guy was promoting, giving away, I think it was a PS5.
Now the New York Police Department has mobilized to the highest degree they can mobilize, and they're calling it a teen takeover, and it basically is.
The moment this big mob showed up, they all started chanting NYPD, SMID, and stuff like that.
And then they started just going around smashing things and doing whatever they want.
So we're going to, we'll talk a bit about that.
And we have some other really big news, ladies and gentlemen.
Barack Obama is gay.
Apparently, his biographer says that he is.
I mean, I guess this is big news.
I don't know how much anybody cares.
There's going to be a bunch of people being like, oh wow, I didn't know that or something.
But I guess for whatever reason, we'll talk about that.
And I don't know, whatever, it's Friday.
So it'll be a good time.
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more, we got ALX!
alex alx lorusso
What's up?
Who are ya?
I'm Benny Johnson's executive producer, and I'm a creator on X.com.
unidentified
And Alex Stein never left.
alex stein
No, I'm just moving in and I'm here to talk about how gay Barack Obama is.
tim pool
But this is a real story.
unidentified
No, I know, it just came out.
Glenn Beck just talked about it, so he really doesn't want to... You know, good for Barack to come out and be true to himself.
tim pool
It's about time he was honest with the American people and I commend him for it.
We got Hannah Clare hanging out.
hannah claire brimelow
Hey, I'm Hanako Rimma.
I'm a writer for TimCast.com.
I think this technically means Barack beat Justin Trudeau to this coming out thing, right?
That's the rumor.
Justin Trudeau's about to come out.
tim pool
Maybe they're dating.
alex stein
Could you imagine that power couple?
hannah claire brimelow
No, the other rumor was that he was dating Emmanuel Macron, the Prime Minister of France.
Love triangle, guys.
You have to think big.
alex stein
Something's weird with Emmanuel Macron or whatever.
hannah claire brimelow
It's all weird.
unidentified
He's dating his teacher.
hannah claire brimelow
Macron's got that older lady.
But maybe he needed Barack Obama on the side.
tim pool
No, maybe Trudeau is breaking up with his wife because she found out him and Barack were a thing, you know what I mean?
hannah claire brimelow
I'm just saying, this soap opera got so interesting this week.
tim pool
Oh man, it's like Brokeback Pentagon, and you know, Barack Obama's like, why can't I quit you?
alex stein
Well, there's always gay guys that act straight, that date like older, rich women, and then go on trips with them and stuff like that.
Have you guys ever seen that?
tim pool
They're called beards.
alex stein
Yes, basically.
tim pool
It's like, nobody knows.
Well, we got Ian here.
ian crossland
I think the whole thing is a distraction from Hunter Biden's laptop.
unidentified
Hunter Biden's laptop.
ian crossland
That's all it is, man.
tim pool
Keep your eye on the prize.
They're like, Joe Biden's like, we need a story.
What do we do to distract from this?
alex stein
And they're like, Bronx Gang!
hannah claire brimelow
They wouldn't take the aliens.
We've got to keep going.
tim pool
This one they'll believe.
ian crossland
Michelle is a masculine woman.
She's got masculine traits.
She's a beautiful woman, but there's a conspiracy theory that she's a man.
tim pool
Was it Joan Rivers said that?
ian crossland
Yeah, Michael.
She's definitely got a bit of... She's got masculine energy for a woman, you know, like some men have feminine energy.
So there's something to that.
tim pool
We'll get into all that.
We've got Callan here pressing buttons.
unidentified
Yeah, I'm pressing buttons in for Surge tonight.
Let's get rolling.
tim pool
All right, here's a story from the Daily Mail.
Moment!
YouTuber Kaisanat is arrested by NYPD for causing huge Union Square riot with PS5 giveaway as rioters are filmed swarming on cars, twerking on lampposts, and hurling bottles.
There's one video we can't show, and it's got a guy who's bleeding profusely from the arm, apparently shot himself.
There's reports that a cop had his throat cut in some way, and they took his gun from him.
I don't know if that's true, but then you see this video of this dude bleeding a whole lot, and you're like, man, something's going on.
Now, Keemstar Says that he spoke with Kai Sinat's manager.
He was not arrested, as some are saying.
The police are simply protecting him from the mob.
And you can see here, the police are escorting him away.
We got a bunch of other videos.
Look at this one.
Here's a guy.
He's doing what looks like some kind of Irish dance on the top of this black sedan.
Well, I mean, it does, though, but he's doing, like, the Riverdance thing.
I don't know, is that not?
Am I wrong?
alex stein
That's Michael Flatley Riverdance, right there.
tim pool
Yeah, he was doing the legs back and legs.
alex stein
He's filming a TikTok, though, give him a break.
tim pool
But now he's jumping up and down, and they're just smashing this car.
Man, there's a bunch of crazy videos.
I don't know what photos they got on the Daily Mail.
But, like, here's a dude, and he's terrible form on that kick, my friend.
You know, he should watch Joe Rogan do that.
You ever see that video of Joe Rogan doing that kick?
alex stein
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
And it sounds like a gunshot when he hits the bag.
This guy should watch more Joe Rogan.
Look at this.
Some guy's getting arrested.
Who's that?
So there were thousands of people that showed up because I guess they wanted a PlayStation.
And then once they're all there, dude, social order breaks down.
That's it.
You know what I was thinking?
Watching this video, it's like The Purge, but in slow motion.
Everywhere.
Because there was that woman in Portland, she got punched in the face, and now she's a Republican.
You've got Walgreens getting shut down.
You've got Target stores locking every product.
They're the Walgreens in Chicago, where they don't have products anymore.
Have you seen this?
alex stein
Well, I've seen where everything's locked up.
tim pool
No, no, in Walgreens.
You walk into the Chicago Walgreens, there's no products at all.
You walk up to a terminal, and you type in what you want, and someone will carry it out for you.
You have to pay for it.
Like, from like a back, armored area.
hannah claire brimelow
They're ruining browsing.
They're taking all the fun out of shopping in person.
tim pool
Oh, but you know what's funny is, Amazon tried doing that thing in Seattle where you could walk in and take whatever you wanted.
Could you imagine?
What it would be like if they put it in San Francisco?
I mean, maybe they have one, I don't know.
But, you know, Port... Where was it?
It was in Seattle.
Yeah, it was in Seattle.
They put it in San Francisco.
Seattle's bad enough, but it's not as bad.
But now, they're going the other direction with it, where you walk into Walgreens.
There's nothing but a counter and two terminals.
You walk up to the terminal, you type in what you want and press enter.
And then, after you pay, a person comes out with your bag and says, here you go.
alex stein
Well, my favorite video, it went viral, and I posted it on my Twitter too, where it was a McDonald's in Kiev, and then a McDonald's in Los Angeles, California.
And the McDonald's in Los Angeles, the guys were like literally beating up the cashiers, stealing the register.
And the one in Kiev, in a war zone, it looked beautiful.
I mean, it was immaculate, couldn't have been any cleaner.
tim pool
Oh, dude, I was in Maidan when what effectively turned into the Civil War erupted.
This is actually a crazy point to make real quick.
When I went to 2013 and 2014, when I was in Ukraine, they were called protests.
Those protests are now historically part of the Civil War, and now the Russian War, and potentially World War III.
But I'm in this place where they're burning this building down, like there's just fire coming out, and you walk into McDonald's, everything's fine.
You just walk up to the counter and you're like, yo, I'll get a McChicken and, you know... I think that's nice.
hannah claire brimelow
McDonald's is making everyone feel secure, they're providing the stable food.
tim pool
Same in Egypt.
When I was at the Hilton, you can look out from the 26th floor and see Tahrir Square, and there's, like, lasers everywhere, people are screaming and jumping up and down, APCs riding around.
Right downstairs, McDonald's, there's a guy eating a cheeseburger watching soccer.
hannah claire brimelow
It's the equalizer.
Everyone's like, we got to protect McDonald's.
Like, you don't riot in the middle of a church.
alex alx lorusso
But in the US, like the Black Lives Matter protests, they'll just loot and destroy everything, regardless of, you know, what store they are.
hannah claire brimelow
So I guess... They have no respect for the sanctity of McDonald's.
alex alx lorusso
What does that say about us, I guess?
alex stein
Well, McDonald's are better in Europe than they are in America.
tim pool
It's true.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, they're just and they give you different stuff.
I think that's like Chicago has a McDonald's where you can go and order the international menu.
unidentified
Really?
alex stein
Yeah, that's what their headquarters are.
Yeah.
tim pool
I think where is the first one?
Is it just not Des Plaines?
unidentified
Is it?
alex stein
The first McDonald's was in California, like San Bernardino.
tim pool
Yeah, but that was like- Deeply controversial.
There's a whole movie on this.
Right, right, right.
alex stein
Ray Kroc, yeah, he took over.
tim pool
Kroc's first one, I think, was in Illinois or something like that.
Like after he ripped them off and stole- After he took it over, yeah.
Dude, that movie, yo, he was masterfully done how he stole that from him.
hannah claire brimelow
Oh yeah, it's crazy.
unidentified
He's crazy, he's a smart guy.
tim pool
And evil, but yeah.
alex stein
In theory, he really created a real estate company by- Exactly.
tim pool
Yeah, so- He owned the land under him and then took them all.
unidentified
That's crazy.
hannah claire brimelow
And that's still their biggest profit, the real estate.
alex stein
Yeah.
tim pool
Oh yeah.
Anyway, we're talking about McDonald's!
hannah claire brimelow
If you go to Iceland, I think you can get, like, mac and cheese jalapeno bites at McDonald's.
alex stein
Oh, you can get all kinds of stuff.
tim pool
One of the best things, like, I've ever seen was, um, you know their slogan, I'm lovin' it?
alex stein
Yeah.
tim pool
It was, uh, Maddox.
You guys remember Maddox?
The best page in the universe?
He said, I'm loving it as a contraction of the phrase, I am loving it, which is an anagram for ailing vomit.
I was like, that's actually pretty good.
He wrote that.
ian crossland
I went to a McDonald's for the first time in like five years when I was in Colorado Springs shooting this music video, and it was just a kiosk.
There was nobody working anywhere.
So I typed in what I wanted, and I ordered three double hamburgers.
I was just gonna eat the meat, and then they served, they gave me the food, and I left, and I checked, and it was three single hamburgers.
You got one fucking job at this point.
The machine's doing it for you.
How can you... And I paid for double hamburgers, but I was already gone.
I didn't go back.
tim pool
Is that a McDonald's cast?
We were talking about people destroying their cities.
hannah claire brimelow
I liked it where Americans being like, but if you go to Europe, you gotta try the McDonald's.
They've got interesting stuff.
ian crossland
I do want to talk about this Times Square riot because where the hell is the National Guard?
Union Square?
It's Union Square downtown.
Where's the National Guard?
How long does it take to call someone on the phone and be like, yo, get the big guns in here to stop this before buildings start getting blown up?
hannah claire brimelow
Is the riot over or are they still going?
Because this broke pretty recently, right?
alex alx lorusso
Yeah, I don't know if even the mayor or governor has said anything.
tim pool
What do you do when a bunch of teenagers are just there?
The riot started because they were there and they knew no one could stop them.
alex stein
Well, New York's like lawless right now.
I mean, even if you do get arrested because of the bail reform, you just get out of jail.
So, I mean, I mean, it's not a safe place to be.
tim pool
You guys heard about the new base stick man, right?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Do you remember the old base stick man?
alex alx lorusso
Yep.
tim pool
This was the guy at the battle for Berkeley who had a stick and a mask and a shield.
And when Antifa started attacking people, he hit him with a stick.
Now there's this, I think, I think he's Indian or Pakistani 7-Eleven worker in California.
alex alx lorusso
Yep.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
they're getting robbed. Oh yeah. And then the guy filming is like, you can't do
nothing about it. Just let it go. And then all of a sudden, what happens is the
guy robbing him pulls out what looks like a knife of some sort.
And then the other dude, he puts it away, but the guy grabs him and the other guy
starts beating him with a stick. Like bro, dude pulled out a weapon, you know what I
mean? And threatened them. It's like, what are you supposed to do? He was also
ian crossland
He was filling a giant garbage can with cigarettes.
So, like, that's a lot of money to lose for a store.
And at what point is it, like, righteous to beat someone up that's stealing from you?
tim pool
I mean, in Texas, I think you have the legal right to defend yourself with force, to defend your property with force.
I typically am like, man, it shouldn't come down to, like, that guy beat him mercilessly.
I shouldn't say mercilessly because the guy was stealing.
The dude pulled a knife.
alex alx lorusso
Yeah.
Do you have a weapon?
tim pool
Yeah, the dude pulled a weapon and threatened them with death.
Now it's like, there's no longer a question of morals.
It's like, this guy's threatening to kill people.
Like, you gotta protect yourself.
alex stein
Yeah, and I mean, the guy's probably whacked out on drugs.
unidentified
I mean, the guy's, you know, if you're making that decision, he's obviously- Well, your adrenaline's going too.
alex alx lorusso
Like, it's a life or death situation.
Like- Yo, look at this clip.
tim pool
Look at this clip.
They're just jumping on random people's cars.
ian crossland
What do you do?
hannah claire brimelow
They're expressing themselves.
alex alx lorusso
Try that in a small town.
tim pool
Yeah, I love that.
I love that meme because it's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
Like, try that in a small town.
You mean when that Ahmaud Arbery guy?
alex alx lorusso
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
Right, and those guys are now in prison for the rest of their lives?
alex alx lorusso
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, try it in a small town, and then the government will come and arrest you.
ian crossland
Nancy Pelosi suggested we get crew-served weapons for situations like this, especially at the Capitol.
tim pool
Yeah, January 6th.
ian crossland
But the thing is, if this is like a flash mob, that like, there was a Facebook post and a bunch of people, Facebook, I'm so Gen X, and a bunch of people showed up and then dispersed rapidly, like, how do you defend against that?
Because it takes time for the army to mobilize.
hannah claire brimelow
I feel like this is obviously not dispersing rapidly, yes?
ian crossland
I can't tell.
hannah claire brimelow
If there's enough time for there to be this much footage generated, I feel like I mean, what is rapid, I guess?
ian crossland
The cops were overwhelmed.
tim pool
What do you do, right?
So, this Kai Sinat guy is like, hey, come to Union Square, I'm gonna give you a PlayStation.
And then a riot happens.
He didn't break the law.
It can't be a crime for you to say, I'm gonna be here and give a thing away.
alex alx lorusso
I think they're saying an unlicensed giveaway is something that I read.
tim pool
That's insane.
alex alx lorusso
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
To be like, hello every- like, imagine if you weren't famous and you went and you called up,
like you went on Facebook and said, hey everyone, I'm gonna be at Times Square,
I'm gonna give you a PlayStation. Ten people show up, nobody cares. But because a million people
share it and thousands show up, now you're- you've committed a crime? That's crazy to me.
ian crossland
Sounds like the Donald Trump thing right now.
alex stein
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
That's exactly what I was going to say.
I mean, there is kind of some weight if you're that big of a quote-unquote influencer and then you influence so much people to go do something.
I mean, I don't necessarily think he should be liable, but I mean, he has to take some responsibility a little bit.
unidentified
If you decide to mob the forum, is that alone?
tim pool
But like, he didn't tell people to do this.
We did that thing where I said, hey, everybody show up in DC, we're going to skate.
And then like a couple hundred people showed up and we skated, nothing bad happened.
That's not illegal.
No. But then what if people show up and do bad things? Why would I be responsible for that?
Simply because I said, hey, I'm going to be here. That's crazy to me. Is that why they request
permits because they don't want the out of control? What I'm saying is, did he organize
an event or did he just say, I'm going to be in Times Square and I'm going to give
it to someone a PlayStation?
Like, the idea that it would be illegal for you to say you're going to a place is insane to me, no matter who you are, no matter how famous you are.
alex stein
Yeah, I mean, I don't think he told them to write either.
tim pool
Exactly.
alex stein
So, yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
Where's the anti-video game people to be like, see what happens when you give out video game consoles?
I don't understand.
Like, there's a whole advocacy group here that would be saying like, this is how addicted people are to free stuff and online, like, No one's commenting on this.
I think part of that is because they want to see what happens, right?
Like that's why I feel like I can't find a statement from Eric Adams, mayor of New York, because he's waiting to see what happens before he decides where he wants to put his message.
That's kind of gross.
tim pool
You know what's going to happen is the left is going to claim that the enforcement against all these people was racist.
They're going to say they're going to they're going to try and spin it in any way possible to be like, Oh, you know, they're racist for, you know, how they did it, because when SantaCon happens or when football people, you know, go out and it's just like... St.
hannah claire brimelow
Patrick's Day!
alex stein
They just paid, I think, $13 million to a bunch of BLM riders that were unfairly arrested.
Did you not see that in New York?
tim pool
In New York?
alex stein
Yeah, after the fact.
They just paid it out.
tim pool
With a smile on their face.
alex stein
And some of those people actually threw, you know, Molotov cocktails at police cars.
tim pool
The way it works is you want to funnel money from the government to extremists.
The extremists sue the government, the government goes, oh, gee, oh, no, oh, I guess we should just settle.
alex stein
Well, speaking of, I actually sued New York City, the city council.
I was calling and Zooming into so many meetings, they would see my name and they just wouldn't let me speak.
So we sued them in federal court, and they didn't want to deal with it, and we just settled for $15,000.
Wow, really?
tim pool
They paid you?
alex stein
Yeah, they paid me.
Well, they have 90 days, and now we're on like day 45, but yeah, they agreed I'll get the check and whatever.
unidentified
$15,000?
alex stein
I have to split it with my attorney, $60,000, $40,000.
tim pool
But I'm your wife's boyfriend.
alex stein
And my wife's boyfriend, Tim.
He loves to bring up his cut.
My point is, when you sue, I'm actually suing Dallas County for a similar thing.
They actually fight at New York.
They're like, ah, the cost-benefit analysis.
It's just cheaper to pay these people.
tim pool
So you're saying you can sue New York City for $15,000 and they'll just pay you?
alex stein
Well, for your First Amendment right, if they violate your First Amendment right and don't let you speak.
tim pool
Well, they didn't prove they did.
Like, you didn't prove they did or didn't.
They just said, we don't want to bother with it.
Here's money.
alex stein
Yeah, they didn't want to go to court and deal with it.
unidentified
Right.
alex stein
Because it would cost them more than $15,000.
tim pool
Exactly.
So it doesn't matter if you're right or wrong.
alex stein
Well, what I'm saying is in smaller cities where I'm suing, they'll actually fight it.
In New York, they're just so over, you know, inundated with lawsuits.
tim pool
Let's talk about Donald Trump.
We got this tweet from Kyle Cheney.
He says, Donald Trump swore in court yesterday he would not attempt to influence or intimidate witnesses, retaliate against anyone, or in any other way attempt to obstruct the administration of justice.
Quote, are you prepared to comply?
The magistrate judge asked.
Yes, Trump replied.
And then Trump posted on Truth Social, I guess, if you go after me, I'm coming after you.
And now all these people are calling for Trump to be locked up.
hannah claire brimelow
Isn't there some movie where it's like, set a threat and they're like, no, it's a promise.
Like, maybe he's not threatening them.
Maybe he's just letting people know what his plan is.
tim pool
The question I suppose is, we asked it last night now that we got you guys here.
Why did they not remand Trump to custody?
ian crossland
Because they wanted him to do something like this.
tim pool
No, but this is now the pretext for them to remand him to custody.
They could have just done it.
alex stein
Well, even if you're a president and you get arrested, don't you still get Secret Service?
So maybe that's why, because it's just the logistics.
It's like, how are we going to put him in a cell?
tim pool
I'm saying if these charges were real, if they actually were concerned Trump tried to overthrow the government, they would not let him go.
They'd be like, bro, look at the J6ers.
You trespass on Capitol grounds, they lock you up for two years.
Donald Trump is accused of making the whole thing happen.
They're like, ah, you're free to go, buddy.
unidentified
Here's your passport back, there's your jumbo jet, have a good day.
tim pool
Yeah, they don't actually believe these charges.
alex alx lorusso
Well, I think that's just it.
And that like the entire thing is political.
And I mean, his defense is going to be and his defense for the next, you know, year is going to be that it's political speech.
He's campaigning.
This is a campaign promise, essentially, because he could just turn around and say, I'm going to drain the swamp or, you know, purge the deep state type of thing.
Well, then I'm campaigning.
tim pool
So I wonder if Trump did this on purpose, hoping that they actually use that as pretext to bring it back, because then it goes to SCOTUS and SCOTUS throws the whole thing out.
alex alx lorusso
That would actually be really smart because, I mean, it's First Amendment.
Like, honestly, if this goes to SCOTUS, like, everybody is saying that.
Yeah, everybody is saying that it's going to get thrown out.
tim pool
I don't think people realize there is no path this can take other than, it's going to be wild.
alex alx lorusso
Oh yeah.
alex stein
Oh yeah, that's an understatement.
tim pool
Because at the very least, this has to go to the Supreme Court.
A former sitting president, criminally charged, there's too many questions, there's going to be appeals, and then how does it get handled?
We're looking at the apex of the U.S.
constitutional branch powers.
Each branch's authority, where is that limit?
hannah claire brimelow
How quickly do you think it'll get to the Supreme Court, though?
tim pool
I don't know.
Dershowitz said he'll get convicted first, and then it'll go to the Supreme Court.
alex alx lorusso
But to your point, maybe this would fast track it.
Like, if he literally, you know, got remanded, like, I feel like that, you know?
tim pool
And Trump needs to be remanded in such a way that is not clear-cut.
If Trump literally goes to Giuliani and is on camera berating him, then he's gonna have a hard time making an argument.
If they try and remand him for something like this, now you've got big questions to be asked the Supreme Court about his right to campaign, his free speech, and then they could use that as a pretext to just throw the whole thing out.
alex alx lorusso
Exactly.
Yeah.
alex stein
I think it's going to be an uphill battle.
They want to do anything they can to take Trump out.
And I do think they're going to be successful.
I'm not trying to be black pills or negative.
I just think that Trump is going to have to eventually, and I hope I'm wrong, I think he's going to have to eventually either say, I'm not going to run.
And then I think that that would set him up to get a more lenient sentence, I think.
I mean, I don't know how he gets out of this if they're just going to continue to just charge him.
tim pool
Look at the polls, man.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
He's beaten Biden.
alex stein
Yeah, I know, but that's only going to encourage him to try to get him in jail more.
hannah claire brimelow
But he could be president from jail, theoretically, right?
alex stein
Yeah, and he could pardon himself.
alex alx lorusso
I did see that.
tim pool
And if he gets convicted, they could take his name off the ballot, and then a lot of people will just vote R, and they won't even think twice about who's on the ballot or not.
ian crossland
A bunch of people will write him in, and it'll split the vote.
tim pool
Yup, and then you end up with Newsom as president.
alex stein
I think that's a strong possibility.
tim pool
Have you guys heard my theory I mentioned the past couple days?
alex stein
No, what is it?
tim pool
Gavin Newsom is campaigning with Joe Biden and Joe Biden has like a heart attack or something.
Gavin Newsom runs at full speed on the stage, rolls up his sleeves and does CPR on Biden.
alex stein
And that would be funny.
tim pool
Screams for help.
And then what happens?
Biden either is okay or incapacitated.
Gavin Newsom then does every press round where they're like, tell us what it was like.
When you ran out to save the president's life.
How do you get Gavin Newsom above Joe Biden in the polls?
Above Kamala Harris?
How do you replace Biden with Gavin Newsom?
How do you replace him without overstepping or insulting Kamala Harris and the woke crowd?
Gavin Newsom saving the life of Joe Biden.
alex stein
Well, Barack Obama even said that if you need something fucked up, I think that was a quote, then just have Joe Biden be in charge of it.
I think the humiliation ritual is coming up, or they're going to make him step down.
Something's going to come up with Hunter.
tim pool
The reason I don't think so is because that makes the whole party look weak.
And there's a lot of people who vote based on party, not based on person.
alex stein
Well, and just to counter that, though, actually it would make them look like, hey, you know, he was our president, and then he did something illegal, and we held him accountable.
So we're actually the party of truth, because we actually go after our... Maybe.
I mean, that's where I think they could package this.
tim pool
They may do that.
I'm just saying that there's a net negative there.
Because now what they're basically saying is, we begged you to vote for the guy who turned out to be more corrupt, and did something illegal.
Whereas if Biden's exit is due to the sacrifice, and then Gavin will say something, or they'll have like a doctor say, we've been warning the president to take it easy, but he insisted on being there for this country.
And then you've got Gavin Newsom.
How do you get him in the press rounds?
This is how you do it.
He saves the life and then they're like, Gavin, Governor Newsom, tell us what happened.
And then he's like, he's got a tear in his eye.
And he's like, I looked at this man who I've looked up to my whole life.
And I said, Joe, we got you.
You ain't going anywhere, buddy.
And you know, I knew blah, blah, blah.
It just writes itself.
ian crossland
You think Gavin Newsom would be a good president?
alex stein
It'd be the best. Well, Kamala Harris, let's see, how did she-
tim pool
Yes, no, no, hold on, let me answer this. Yes, if you want to poop in the street.
unidentified
All right, there you go. A lot of people do.
hannah claire brimelow
How fast is Hunter Biden's trial moving in comparison to Trump's right now?
Because it'd be interesting to see who gets convicted first.
alex stein
If I was Hunter- If I was Hunter-
hannah claire brimelow
No, I'm being serious.
alex stein
If I was Hunter, I would just plead guilty and get pardoned by my dad if I wasn't him.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, you would think he would want this to go while Biden is definitely for sure still in office.
tim pool
But look, look, the plea agreement they had was the deal with his dad.
They were like, I bet Joe was like, Hunter, we got to get something.
We're going to do this light thing.
It's going to be a few months of probation.
Then it's all gone, washed away.
We got your back.
And then the judge sniffed out the, hey, there's broad immunity in this agreement that shouldn't be there.
It's unprecedented.
And they're like, uh, the prosecutors are like, you're correct.
That's right.
Uh, and then Hunter was like, no way, no way.
They're going to throw me under the bus.
The whole thing's a scam.
alex alx lorusso
What's weird though is, so if you notice like Karine Jean-Pierre, anytime she's asked about Hunter Biden at the White House,
she says, I can't comment, it's a different matter or whatever.
The one answer that she gave an affirmative and 100% straightforward answer was,
is Joe going to pardon Hunter?
And she just said no, that's it.
alex stein
She answered that question.
alex alx lorusso
So that does show that they were probably talking about it.
tim pool
Yeah, but she doesn't need to pardon him because his charges are going to be... Oh, yeah, exactly.
alex alx lorusso
But my point is, she deferred every other question except for that one.
So I mean, it came up, and they were talking about it behind the scenes.
tim pool
With Hunter Biden avoiding paying taxes, it's like accidental underpayment and slap on the wrist charge.
With Trump, you know, having multiple years where different accounting firms evaluate his properties, they're like, this was intentional manipulation of numbers to steal!
It's always the worst interpretation.
alex stein
Well, I'm all about holding our politicians accountable, and I love government transparency.
But let's be real, a president is above the law.
I mean, they are a little bit above the law.
They basically kill people that decide to go to war.
I just think that they're not a normal person.
So they're setting a precedent where they can put a ex-president in jail.
It just makes our country look bad.
It makes us look so bad, in my opinion.
It's like cutting off your nose to spite your face.
alex alx lorusso
Yeah, and also how the DOJ is under that branch of government, the executive branch.
Like, it's like super weird how now they are technically above the president, like asserting themselves.
tim pool
It's weird.
But I think the reality is, whichever branch the deep state, the intelligence agencies can use, will have the most power at the time.
Like the idea that Congress was impeding Donald Trump and they were going after him with all his investigations, when typically the executive branch has had this ridiculous amount of power, because the power is really with the intelligence agencies and they just use whatever vehicle they need to.
alex stein
Well, the CIA and I think the FBI, they also say that they are the real ones in power because the president changes every four to eight years and they all stay in.
alex alx lorusso
Exactly.
tim pool
Permanent government.
Yeah.
alex stein
The deep state, it is real.
tim pool
So what do you guys think?
Do you think, where do you think this goes?
Do you think that come 2024 we all cast our ballots and smile as we, and then when, when one, whichever faction gets elected, the other faction smiles and then waves American flags, we all got in the street and hug?
alex stein
Yeah, that's exactly what's gonna happen.
No, I don't know.
I mean, Kamala Harris, what is she gave a BJ to Mayor Willie Brown to get where she's at?
tim pool
Is that confirmed though?
alex stein
It's close enough.
And then she dated Montel Williams.
hannah claire brimelow
Love that journalism over there.
alex stein
It's close enough.
hannah claire brimelow
Can you imagine if I reported?
Close enough.
alex stein
Well, I don't ever claim to be a real journalist, but... No, I'm just kidding.
tim pool
They had an affair.
alex alx lorusso
I had an affair, I'm pretty sure.
tim pool
Yeah, they had an affair, but you see, you're being a little too graphic here.
unidentified
Come on, you gotta... Okay, well, they held hands.
alex stein
What's an affair?
I mean, they had to do the hibbity-dibbity.
I mean, come on.
unidentified
They weren't just... She dated Montel Williams also?
alex stein
She dated Montel Williams as well.
She was supposedly in the throuple.
She went to a couple of his things.
So she's not qualified to be the president.
And I think that that's kind of scaring them.
What are they going to do with Kamala?
How are we going to put her on the B team?
Or how are we going to get her...
hannah claire brimelow
I think that's the biggest obstacle for the Democratic Party right now, what to do with Kamala, because, I mean, when Larry Elder was on the show, he was saying, like, you will completely isolate female black voters, which I don't know if they're enough to tip the scales.
On the other hand, it goes against the cultural conversation you've been leading for years here.
Again, I think that's why there was a moment where everyone's like, maybe Michelle, like maybe we can just edge her out.
But like, again, weird tokenism.
I don't think they know what to do.
I personally think it's going to be terminal illness route.
I think Joe will announce he has a terminal illness.
And I mean, I'm loathe to make predictions on the internet, right?
Hello!
Because someone will wonder, you know, someone will call me out on it.
But I think Trump will end up on the ballot.
I can't say what's going to happen on his legal team, but I think the Republican Party eventually will realize that, like, if he continues on the way he is, it would be impossible to keep the trust of their voters and have anyone else there.
alex stein
I just, I don't see Trump beating Chris Christie.
hannah claire brimelow
That's true.
alex alx lorusso
Chris Christie's in, like, Ukraine, right?
Like, what is up with all of these, like, Republican presidential candidates making their visit to Ukraine?
Like, I don't understand.
alex stein
I think they want Vladimir Zelensky to pass away so they have another Franz Ferdinand so they can start World War III.
unidentified
Could you imagine because he's been so... Joe Zelensky's got to be sweating bullets.
tim pool
I feel like if there's a... Because he's like, you know, he goes to NATO and they're like, here's what we want you to do.
And he's like, okay, but then he's got to know in the back of his mind, the NATO guys are crossing their fingers, hoping that Putin takes him out so they can justify expansion of war.
alex stein
Exactly right.
Literally like Franz Ferdinand starting World War I. I mean, that's what they want.
They need somebody to rally the troops.
And we were joking about aliens earlier, but even Ronald Reagan said in one of his State of the Unions, the only way to unite the world is if we had an existential threat like an alien force.
So I think it goes to that.
It's like they need something like him to die for World War III.
They need that one thing, the straw that breaks the camel's back.
tim pool
We got more important news to talk about than World War III, Alex.
Let's jump to the story from The Daily Caller.
Obama once wrote to ex-girlfriend that he repeatedly fantasizes about making love to men, biographer says.
Former President Obama once wrote that he fantasized about having sexual relations with other men.
Biographer David Garrow said in an interview published Wednesday, the former president expressed his fantasies in a letter to a girlfriend at the time.
Garrow told Tablet Magazine in the interview, that letter has been redacted and is currently in possession of Emory University, according to Garrow.
So they have this.
The ex-girlfriend provided a copy of the letter but has redacted one paragraph.
Garrow told Tablet, Who said she revealed the paragraph was about homosexuality.
Sometime right about when Rising Star came out, Alex indirectly sold the original, sold those letters, and they ended up at Emory.
Garrow told Tableau while discussing his biography of Obama, Rising Star, which touched on Obama reportedly dreaming about homosexuality.
So, Emory put out a press release saying, we've gotten these rare letters by Barack Obama and no mention of this paragraph that was too sensitive.
None of the papers mentioned it.
Emory didn't mention it.
So, I emailed Harvey Clare and said, go to Emory Archives.
He spent his whole life at Emory, but they won't let him take pictures.
Garrow said later in the interview, so Harvey has to sit there with a pencil and copy out the graph
where Barack writes to Alex about how he repeatedly fantasized about making love to men.
Obama married his wife, former first lady Michelle Obama in 92. Obama did not immediately respond to
Daily Caller's request for comment. So this is his biographer saying that he wrote this,
and I can't imagine, like, I don't know, is this a thing, like, for a guy to write
his, like, private letter to a girlfriend about wanting, was Obama trying to trick her for some
reason, or is this, it's just like he's admitting this is what he's all about.
alex stein
Yeah, is that like- is he trying to break up with her by saying, you know, I'm actually secretly into guys?
tim pool
Right, like maybe, that's what I mean, like maybe he wasn't really meaning it, he was just like, you know, you're not right for me because, uh, here you go.
alex stein
Yeah, but that's so awkward and embarrassing to say I fantasize about having gay sex if you're not actually fantasizing about having gay sex.
tim pool
Well, I don't know if it's, it could be embarrassing now that he's like older, and it was like this crude, youthful attempt at breaking up with someone indirectly because you're too scared to do it like a man.
hannah claire brimelow
See, I feel like it's not like breaking up with her.
I feel like he's testing her to see how committed she is to him.
He's like, OK, well, I think about this.
And she's like, that's fine.
I'll stay with you no matter what.
I think they won't comment on this, but I would desperately love to see Obama's come out and say, well, what's the problem with this?
I mean, I think we're in the 21st century.
You know what I mean?
Because that's actually their easiest way out.
alex alx lorusso
Didn't Obama write that whole letter about how he grew up reading all of the books that Florida is banning or whatever?
tim pool
Did he say that?
alex alx lorusso
Something like that.
I'll have to find the tweet.
And I just saw everybody quote-tweeting it saying, yeah, it looks like Obama just came out as gay because all of the books they're banning are... It was right before he released his summer reading list.
tim pool
No, these books weren't released when Barack was younger.
Like genderqueer and stuff?
alex stein
Yeah, and like how to bind.
Some of these books are so weird and they're all available in the public libraries.
alex alx lorusso
Well, yeah, but people are making the joke saying that because it was probably some stupid statement where they were just saying, oh, they're banning books because it's literally 1984.
tim pool
Bogus is trying to get the beef.
You can't have any beef, Bogus.
alex alx lorusso
Carnivore snacks.
alex stein
I think they should actually ban all books, just no more books, only the internet.
ian crossland
I'm big on bisexuality.
tim pool
That's good.
You ban all books and people are only allowed to go on the internet, but only X, where Elon Musk determines what you're allowed to see.
alex stein
And we have an X creator.
tim pool
Because, you know, I just don't like Mark Zuckerberg.
hannah claire brimelow
He's gonna report us all if we critique Twitter.
tim pool
I want Elon Musk to be censoring me because, you know...
ian crossland
You know, shout out to Barack for owning his bisexuality, and that's probably part of why he's so charismatic, if he's truly bisexual, according to this biography he is.
hannah claire brimelow
You think bisexuality makes people charismatic?
ian crossland
You can fantasize, in a way, like Mick Jagger, David Bowie, they were just loose.
Mick is loose, and part of it is he's not afraid of sex, so he'll touch anybody, and that makes him very easy to love for a man and a woman.
So, good for Barack.
hannah claire brimelow
But then, if he was bisexual, why didn't he come out sooner, right?
ian crossland
Well, also, fantasizing doesn't make you bisexual.
It's actually having sex with men would have made him bisexual, in my opinion.
tim pool
I don't think so.
I think it's more like a spiritual thing.
ian crossland
If you want to do it, that makes you bisexual?
tim pool
Yeah, if Barack is attracted to men, he is.
It's like if you're a dude and you're a virgin, but you're attracted to women, you're not gay.
You're not asexual because you've never had sex.
No, you're attracted to women because you're a virgin.
ian crossland
Is it both?
Because if you're straight but you have a bunch of sex with guys, you're still straight?
Ask him for a friend.
You'd be bi.
It would make you gay to have sex with men, but it also makes you gay to think about having sex with men?
tim pool
What I'm saying is, let's say there's a 20-year-old guy, and he's never been with a woman, But he's attracted to women.
He is straight.
It doesn't matter if he did or didn't.
And there could be a guy who's only attracted to guys.
He is gay, whether they do anything or not.
And then you're saying there's a guy who's only slept with guys, but he's still attracted to women.
He would just be bi.
So is Obama... I guess the question is, how does he respond to this?
Does he say, like, you know, it never actually happened?
He just dreams every night or something or what?
hannah claire brimelow
Like if he comes out too hard like, no I'm not gay, then I feel like the LGBTQ lobby will be like, what?
Not even a little bit?
alex stein
Well did you see the LGBTQ lobby is mad at Bud Light for not doubling down?
Yet they've lost all of their market share.
tim pool
400 million in sales.
Bud Light lost 400 million dollars in sales in the last quarter or something like that.
hannah claire brimelow
And the lobby doesn't care.
tim pool
That's not market share.
Like, market share is like their stock dropped.
No, like, they actually lost that money in direct sales.
They're laying people off.
They're shutting down bottling plants.
alex stein
Their distributors are affected.
alex alx lorusso
They're saying that they expect it not to recover.
alex stein
Well, because it'll always have that label as the gay beer.
Not that anything's wrong with that.
It's great.
hannah claire brimelow
That's who their new face is, though.
If Obama confirms this letter, then he shaves Bud Light.
alex stein
Wow, could you imagine if he's the next spokesman for Bud Light?
He's like, I'm gay, and this is why, because I drink Bud Light.
ian crossland
Do you think that a lot of people are gay, but they just don't admit it?
Or bisexual, and they don't admit it?
tim pool
These days, I don't think so.
These days, I think it's the opposite.
I think people who aren't gay are claiming they are.
alex stein
Yeah, I actually agree with Tim, because I think in New York City, they just made it where you can put X as your gender, and this past year, over 200 kids have put X. But you get benefits.
Yeah, they're doing it for whatever clout, social currency.
tim pool
Let's be real, if you want a job, let's say you're 18 or whatever, you're trying to get a job, nobody will hire you.
Easiest hack.
You just put X as your gender.
Then when you don't get hired, you accuse them of discrimination.
And then the city pays you $100,000.
Because it's $125,000 for violating civil rights ordinances in New York, and it's $250,000 for willful violation.
So you've got this exploit that people are going to try and rip off.
They're gonna say, but even beyond that, you've got these leftists who are claiming they're part of the LGBT community because it gives them brownie points.
You know, like these like 40-year-old white leftists will be like, I'm actually non-binary!
And then, you know, that way they can claim we when they say LGBT and stuff like that.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, someone's like being transgender these days is like what being goth was in the 90s.
It was like the trendy edgy thing to do, which means that eventually it's not, right?
alex stein
Well, even the term LGBTQ is kind of hypocritical because if you say lesbian, gay, bisexual, the B means there's two genders.
unidentified
Yep.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, when are they going to replace that with... It's L-G-P-T.
All.
Pansexual.
Where it's just like, I'm attracted to whoever.
unidentified
They already did.
tim pool
That's why it's like, two L-G-B-T-Q-I.
You know, it's like two S-I-L-G-B-T-something.
hannah claire brimelow
But they'll drop the B, is what I'm saying.
alex stein
That's my favorite thing in Canada, where they had the banner of LGBTQIA+, they had it all, and Justin Trudeau just... Trudeau couldn't say it.
tim pool
Trudeau nailed it!
alex alx lorusso
I don't remember what he said, I just remember how- One of the times he stumbled through it, and they had to correct him, and he like, he like sighed and then said it, and it was just like so funny.
Every Pride month, that's what I tweeted out, so.
hannah claire brimelow
You have like, a way to commemorate the month?
alex alx lorusso
Yes, I do.
It's so good.
tim pool
Do you think there were other presidents who were gay?
Like we don't know?
hannah claire brimelow
Who was the one who never got married?
That was like the rumor that he was gay.
tim pool
Never got married?
hannah claire brimelow
I'm gonna look it up.
There was one that was always single.
He was never married.
unidentified
Polk?
hannah claire brimelow
Maybe?
alex stein
That sounds kind of gay, poking.
I know Polk, but it sounds like Polk.
unidentified
Wait, no!
alex alx lorusso
Lifelong bachelor.
Yeah.
tim pool
Buchanan?
hannah claire brimelow
I don't think that he was gay.
unidentified
I'm just saying people make assumptions about a man... He was the pre-Civil War president!
hannah claire brimelow
A man of a certain age who never got married?
I mean, it raises questions.
alex stein
I know, especially back then, too.
tim pool
Buchanan was the second worst president we've ever had.
hannah claire brimelow
Woodrow Wilson, of course.
Right, the concept of a confirmed bachelor?
That was an allusion to, like, what do you think?
alex stein
And think about the women that threw themselves at him.
hannah claire brimelow
He was the president of the United States and he couldn't get married?
I'm sorry, but where was the ancient bachelor show to make this happen?
ian crossland
Buchanan was engaged to Ann Coleman, daughter of a wealthy Pennsylvania family, but they broke up the engagement for an undisclosed reason and then Coleman died shortly after.
unidentified
There's one president that everyone is like, no he is the understate.
alex alx lorusso
JFK?
hannah claire brimelow
No, hold on I'm gonna look.
ian crossland
He definitely wasn't gay.
Is this attractive to you?
hannah claire brimelow
There's one president that everyone is like no he is the understate JFK. No hold on. I'm gonna look up to you
unidentified
definitely wasn't gay Is this attractive to you? Yeah?
No, that's not who I was thinking of Is it like Sam Smith?
alex stein
Yeah, he does.
alex alx lorusso
When you Google gay president, Buchanan is the first one that comes up.
unidentified
Oh, for real?
hannah claire brimelow
Because he was never married.
I'm sorry.
There are other politicians that this comes up about too.
I mean, it's like a joke that I mean, Yellowstone makes this joke that like, the son who wants to run for office, they're like, Yeah, but you have to get married because otherwise it starts to look weird.
Like, there's an expectation that hopefully by a certain point of life you have this, you know, partner.
And I think James Buchanan has always been a mystery for history.
ian crossland
You think he was like, Ann, it's not gonna work because I'm gay.
And she's like, then I'm leaving you.
And he's like, I shouldn't have told her that.
What was I thinking?
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, there's no evidence as far as I know.
I'm just saying, the biggest thing that people question is the fact that he never got married.
tim pool
Oh, look at this!
It even says, he was never married and was the only U.S.
president to remain a lifelong bachelor, leading some historians and authors to question his sexual orientation.
He died of respiratory failure in 1868 and was buried in Lancaster, Pennsylvania.
hannah claire brimelow
Historians will question your sexuality no matter what at this point, because they would love to weave as many gay icons into the past as possible.
tim pool
I heard that.
Yeah, that's crazy.
alex alx lorusso
Yeah, it says William Rufus King was his close, uh, he had a close friendship.
tim pool
I think bogus just followed Alex into the bathroom.
hannah claire brimelow
He wants to go into the bathroom.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Let's, let's, let's jump to the story.
Like, cause we're, we're, it's Friday night.
We're bouncing around.
All right, you know, I really, I kind of don't want to do this, but with Alex Stein here, I think it'll be fun.
America is using recovered UFOs to make high-tech weapons.
Intelligence officer turned whistleblower claims.
U.S.
recovered E.T.
craft and opened Pandora's box in bombshell BBC interview.
I don't believe it.
I think he's full of it.
I'm going to say this right now.
As a statement of fact, this guy is lying about having any of this information.
You know why?
Because he cannot prove anything he says is true.
unidentified
Period.
tim pool
And I would love for him to release hard evidence of this, but until then, it's not really a statement of fact because it's just me saying, like, I don't believe him.
But what I'm trying to get at is, if dude were to sue me for defamation for me calling him a liar, which he can't, show me the evidence.
Prove it!
But, um, considering the level of distractions that we're dealing with, we got aliens, we got World War III, we got Obama is gay, you know what I mean?
It's like, they're pulling out all the stops in desperation.
hannah claire brimelow
It's sensory overload.
tim pool
Did he follow you into the bathroom?
unidentified
Yeah, he did.
alex stein
He helped me go.
tim pool
So, uh, I'm glad you're here, Axis.
We want to talk about these aliens.
alex stein
I heard everything about the aliens.
I'm very familiar with it.
unidentified
And, uh, I would tell you... So you've met them?
Well, I am one.
alex stein
They're inhabiting me right now.
Now, if they tell you that aliens are real, then they're fake.
tim pool
That's, I believe, the opposite of what... We all thought aliens were real until they came down and claimed they were real.
alex stein
That's all they have to do, is the government tells you that aliens are real.
I'm like, alright, this is fake.
tim pool
Aww, we're all let down.
alex stein
Well, and I mean, we talk about what they have a secret technology.
There is something kind of weird to that because we can go to how did they build the pyramids?
Like how did they do stuff that we can't do today?
There is some sort of I think we're getting done now.
tim pool
I know that I agree with but like when I say not to is people think that because we don't know how they did it aliens.
It's like good.
Come on.
ian crossland
Acoustic levitation, I think that would be involved.
unidentified
Yeah, for sure.
tim pool
Like, yeah, they had a bunch of horns.
So, one of the theories is that they would take the giant stones, and they would have, like, ten guys with horns that get really, really big, and they would go, and then it would create vibrations that you could just push the block.
alex stein
Well, you've seen that where, like, somebody has a real big subwoofer system in the car, and just the sound of it, it's not just from the pressure, they think it's from the sound waves, actually, that can bend metal.
I mean, the car is, like, bending, and the metal will come back to its normal shape.
tim pool
Haven't you ever seen those little football games where it's got the little football players on it, you turn it on, it vibrates, and they just start floating around?
They're floating around!
Like, that's one idea.
But there's a bunch of stuff like that, like, I think in Rome, they had concrete that could set underwater.
ian crossland
Yes, and I don't think, as far as I know, they haven't been able to replicate the stuff.
It's there still.
alex stein
Yeah.
ian crossland
That's wild.
alex stein
And then, what is it, they show, like, the roads in Rome, and then you see, like, a road in Dallas.
You know, Dallas is just potholes everywhere, but their road in Rome is, you know, still cobblestone.
unidentified
Roman concrete is legit.
It's actually something I Like, look up in my free time, but it actually gets stronger as time goes on.
It gets denser?
I don't understand how they make it, why don't we just use that all the time?
tim pool
Wasn't there like a hellfire weapon they had back in the day?
You know what I'm talking about?
There's like an ancient story where these dudes were on a boat and then they fired like napalm or something?
ian crossland
That Greek fire?
tim pool
Greek fire, yeah!
ian crossland
I don't know what it is.
Was it green?
That's Game of Thrones, it's green.
It's an incendiary weapon used by the Eastern Roman Empire, the Byzantines.
Developed in 672 AD.
tim pool
What was it?
Napalm?
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
Greek fire.
alex alx lorusso
That little picture is pretty funny.
ian crossland
Combustible compound.
unidentified
Yeah, this is how you... Ignited with contact on water.
alex alx lorusso
Blasting them with the fire.
unidentified
Look at this!
tim pool
It looks like a crayon drawing.
ian crossland
Maybe magnesium, if it explodes when it comes into contact with water.
tim pool
Have you guys seen the new John Wick?
unidentified
Mm-mm.
tim pool
There's a scene where he gets a shotgun loaded with dragon's breath, which is magnesium fragment shotgun shells, so when it shoots, it blasts.
alex stein
Shoots a flame.
tim pool
Like, not a flame, but like a big... It's like flaming metal shards.
Yeah.
Yeah, maybe.
Maybe they pulverize magnesium and then fight out of a cannon.
ian crossland
I want to know what it's made of.
alex alx lorusso
Combinations of pine resin, napitha, quince wine.
alex stein
Well, alchemy is real.
We all agree that alchemy is real.
So, I mean, maybe they were able to mix it.
tim pool
Alchemy?
alex stein
Well, I mean, what is it?
What is like mixing?
tim pool
No, they thought they could turn lead to gold.
ian crossland
Yeah, but in reality, I think you can turn platinum to gold.
alex stein
You can turn some stuff.
ian crossland
They're right next to each other on the periodic chart.
It's one proton more.
So if you confuse a proton with platinum, you should turn up with gold.
hannah claire brimelow
Where would you get the proton from?
ian crossland
Hydrogen.
Or helium, maybe?
tim pool
You'd have to fuse it.
ian crossland
Heavy hydrogen, yeah.
If you could use heavy hydrogen, like deuterium.
Deuterium oxide, which is like H... I think there's an added neutron.
It's a water molecule with an added neutron, I think.
That'd be pretty cool.
We start making gold out of platinum.
I think that's what's happening in the sun, is it's fusing platinum into gold.
alex stein
Well, that's why so many people are selling catalytic converters, because there's a little bit of platinum in the filter.
ian crossland
Palladium, for sure.
There's a lot of palladium in the catalytic converter.
alex stein
I think there's platinum.
ian crossland
I don't know if there's platinum, too.
alex stein
I think there's a small amount of platinum, I think.
tim pool
Maybe this LK99 thing is another distraction, too.
ian crossland
Dude, I think it's real.
alex alx lorusso
Look at this.
Yeah, I said it was a setup.
ian crossland
Yeah.
I'm still jury's out.
tim pool
Like, all of the... No, no, but like, for real.
All of these crazy stories drop at the same time, that Hunter Biden is about to go to jail and Joe Biden's being caught up in all this.
And I'm just like, dude, everything right now is a psyop.
alex stein
All of it.
ian crossland
I want to think that, except LK99, no one's talking about it in the media, the mainstream crap.
tim pool
Yeah, I got the verbs right here.
alex alx lorusso
I was seeing it all over my feed for like an entire day this week, like Wednesday or something.
ian crossland
Do they MSNBC it?
Like, is there any of that?
Because that's all the political subterfuge channels where they're trying to get you to look away.
tim pool
I figured it out.
If we just keep talking about Hunter Biden being crooked, they'll have to keep releasing top secrets.
ian crossland
Yeah, they're milking it.
tim pool
That's right, that's right.
alex stein
You said that earlier today, is that people are actually trying to cause more chaos so that the rapture happens sooner.
I kind of like that conspiracy.
ian crossland
That's dangerous.
tim pool
That's one of the conspiracy theories, is that the powerful global elites want to force the second coming of Jesus, so they're making prophecy happen.
ian crossland
Dear Lord.
alex stein
Yeah, if I was George Soros, I would be doing that.
He didn't have much time left.
ian crossland
The reason I think LK99's real is because it was developed by some Chinese dude, and he basically just showed the world.
But then, I don't know, would the CCP allow a Chinese guy to tell the world about a room temperature superconductor?
alex stein
What about all the people that build the cars that run on water?
Have you guys seen that?
ian crossland
Stanley Meyer is one of the guys.
tim pool
Here's the problem.
It takes more energy to perform the electrolysis on the water than the fuel produced from the water is worth, right?
alex stein
Is that true?
I don't know.
tim pool
So electrolysis splits the hydrogen and oxygen and then you can use the hydrogen as a fuel, but the problem is it takes more energy to perform the electrolysis than you get back from the hydrogen as it is.
alex stein
That's kind of like how they use solar power and windmills.
I think a windmill has to spin every day for five years for it to even get back its value and what it costs.
tim pool
So you can make a car run on water, but you're just losing energy.
So just have the battery directly spin the wheel.
Why convert?
ian crossland
Yeah, Stanley Meyer's water car, he said he could run it with water instead of gasoline, but then in 1996 an Ohio court found it to be a fraudulent claim.
And then the guy died shortly.
He died two years later.
alex alx lorusso
Why is that the final line to every story?
And then the guy died shortly later.
ian crossland
How did Stanley Meyer die?
tim pool
It was a suicide with two bolts to the back of the head.
ian crossland
How did he die?
Because I remember hearing that, and I thought it was very weird how Stanley Meyer just abruptly saw himself out.
alex stein
There was like a black security guard who died under mysterious circumstances recently, and he had a Ford Expedition that ran on water.
Oh, Stanley Meyer.
ian crossland
Stanley, this is crazy, went to a Cracker Barrel, and I think he was there with a business meeting with his brother, two potential foreign investors, and he just got up and started vomiting, ran out and said he was poisoned, and then the official claim is that he died from a cerebral aneurysm.
tim pool
Wait, who was it?
ian crossland
Stanley Meyer, the guy who built the water fuel car.
hannah claire brimelow
Wow.
ian crossland
In 1998.
alex stein
And Cracker Barrel's delicious, so they would never kill him.
hannah claire brimelow
They would never?
alex stein
No, they have the most delicious biscuits.
tim pool
Catfish.
You go to a Cracker Barrel and you get the catfish.
hannah claire brimelow
It's where you think you're safe.
alex stein
The chicken bread steak's good.
I mean, Cracker Barrel is... Plus, they got the knick-knack section.
Yeah, we love the knick-knack.
hannah claire brimelow
I like the trend where people, like, sneak their stage photos that they're, like, on a farm into Cracker Barrel.
Really make it a home.
tim pool
Everyone's looking at the WEF.
They got the wrong idea.
It's been Cracker Barrel the whole time.
alex alx lorusso
It always has been.
alex stein
It always has been, Cracker Barrel.
ian crossland
If anyone in the chat knows more about the water car, please, like, if there's any value to that, because, I mean, what you're saying makes sense, that you need to perform the electrolysis, but then once you get the chain reaction, wouldn't that hydrogen heat give you enough electricity to continue the reaction?
I don't know if that's true.
tim pool
I don't know, but you know what we should do, because we got this super chat from Michael Beacon.
He gave me an idea.
I think we should just get like a projector, and then do one of those hologram things they do with like... Project Bluebeam?
You put a projector on a smoke, and it can make it look 3D, or onto like a glass panel, and then we just have like aliens land in New York, and then when everyone's watching, the aliens just say like, we want you all to trust your government.
alex stein
We have that, Tim.
We have that.
Have you never heard of Project Bluebeam?
tim pool
No, I'm saying.
We gotta have Aliens Land in New York and then everyone's like, what, what's the message?
What have, what have you come to teach us?
alex stein
Gay rights.
tim pool
Trust Joe Biden.
Vote for him in 2024.
alex stein
And everybody should be gay.
I think that's what they're going to say.
alex alx lorusso
Futurist trends.
ian crossland
What's Project Bluebeam?
unidentified
You've never heard of it?
ian crossland
I've heard of it.
alex stein
So it's technology developed by NASA.
This has all been declassified where they can actually make it look like Jesus is coming back from the rapture.
They can make anything look like it.
tim pool
Yo, you can't search for a blue beam right now.
alex stein
No.
tim pool
Look at this.
ian crossland
I looked it up.
alex stein
It's heavily redacted.
But no, Project Blue Beam is real and it's basically, whether it's, I don't know if it's a hologram, I don't know how it works, but they can project an image in the sky and they say that one of the applications would be to fake the resurrection.
tim pool
Talking plasma, Ian talks about it all the time.
ian crossland
So maybe that talking plasma is part of it where they take triangulated lasers into a point in the atmosphere and that creates a ball of plasma that they'll move around like a laser pointer.
alex alx lorusso
Or even drones now.
tim pool
If you have three lasers...
When you fire the laser, you can't see the beam, you can see the point.
But if all three lasers intersect, you'll be able to see a ball in the sky.
And then all three lasers can move, so it makes it look like something's flying around at the speed of light.
ian crossland
And theoretically, if you've got 9,000 lasers coordinating, you could create like the image of a dragon and move that around.
alex alx lorusso
Yeah.
tim pool
Yep.
That's not even that complicated.
Kids in high school do this.
You ever see those shows where the guy will be like dancing, and then he'll grab a laser beam and he'll spin it like a... He's not really spinning it, He's just putting his hand where the laser is, and then they've choreographed how to move to make it look like the laser's actually in his hands, but he's actually just pretending to grab it.
Sometimes they mess up, you can see them.
They're cool shows, but that's the kind of stuff they can do.
Plus, didn't Tupac do a show?
alex alx lorusso
Yeah, the hologram thing.
tim pool
Right, they put a big glass thing on the stage, and then you can see a guy on the stage do this stuff.
hannah claire brimelow
That's all of Joe Biden's second term.
tim pool
Now whether or not NASA's actually doing anything, I don't know about any of that.
That sounds like a conspiracy.
alex stein
No, I don't know.
That's a conspiracy.
I'm just saying we do have technology that can project something in the sky and be like, what is that?
And I mean, I think that would be beneficial if you want to control us.
Like I foreshadowed earlier with Ronald Reagan, that would be the way to get us to a new world order.
And then think about this, Tim.
You don't even think about the military-industrial complex.
And we could get rid of all of our old guns and develop new alien weapons.
So that's just more money.
And then if you think about military weapons, America, that's all we produce, basically.
tim pool
You know what they should do?
The U.S.
should develop a directed energy weapon, but make it look really weird, and then claim they got it from a spaceship.
alex stein
They already have directed energy weapons.
tim pool
No, I know, but I'm saying they should make one, and then be like, look what we found, and then... This is from an alien.
ian crossland
Yeah, that's part of that story we just read, that they're claiming that they recovered alien tech, and then they'll make a beam weapon or something.
tim pool
So the US already has beam weapons?
They, uh, there's this really cool video you can watch, I'll try and Google it, where they have a drone flying, and then on this, uh, on this ship, they point an infrared laser at- on it, and then it just bursts into flames and falls out of the sky.
alex alx lorusso
Yeah, I've seen that.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex stein
Oh, wow.
tim pool
Plus, there's the laser-induced plasma channel.
You know what that is?
They can- they can mount an artillery on a truck that will shoot you with a bolt of lightning.
alex stein
Well, they kind of have that.
What did they say?
Crowd disbursement technology sends the same signal that a 5G tower theoretically could send.
Have you ever heard that?
unidentified
No.
alex stein
I don't know about that, but a lot of PCs... No, I'm not saying 5G, but 5G emits a frequency or whatever.
I don't even know what the proper term is.
But that same technology is actually used, NYPD has it, where they can put it on top of a car and it'll make you feel like you're hot, like your skin is burning, and they use it as a crab disperser.
tim pool
Oh yeah, that's called an active denial.
alex stein
Didn't you get hit with it or something?
tim pool
No, that's an active denial system, and it's a microwave cannon.
Check this out.
Electrolaser, they call it.
The way it works is, they have this big device, It's got two, uh, basically, I guess you'd call it barrels, they're not really, but there's an electrode and then there's a laser.
The laser ionizes the air, superheating it, in a split second.
So it fires two things at once, or almost instantly.
The laser creates an ionized channel of plasma, which makes a superconductive path for electricity to travel down.
So, when you supercharge one of the electrodes, the electricity will just jump to the closest point, right?
Like it wants to make the shortest circuit.
alex stein
So this is like a wire, almost, in the sky.
tim pool
Right, so the plasma channel is a path of least resistance, so the electricity travels down it to you, and then to the ground.
So, they've, uh, there are some videos of it, and some, some videos.
But, uh, look, it says, it's got the ability to incapacitate or kill a living target through electric shock.
Seriously damage, disable, or destroy any electric or electronic devices.
And, uh, there's really cool videos, people have made these for fun, where one guy put a bunch on his door, and turned it on, and you can see straight blue lines going, like a, like a force field almost.
alex stein
Well, let's go real conspiracy.
I think Tesla probably developed some sort of free energy.
I do believe that.
I think that that's it, because the government can't benefit from that.
tim pool
Have you seen, uh, what was it?
The Prestige, I think?
ian crossland
No.
tim pool
Was it The Prestige?
There were two movies.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And that's with Hugh Jackman and, um... Who was Hugh Jackman and who else was in that one?
ian crossland
Let's find out.
tim pool
Yeah, look it up.
Who was in that one?
ian crossland
Directed by Christopher Nolan, Hugh Jackman, Christian Bale, Michael Caine.
tim pool
Christian Bale!
Christian Bale.
Yeah, they, uh... Ah, that movie's so good.
I don't want to ruin it, but it's super old, so I'm gonna ruin it for you guys.
alex stein
Yeah, ruin it a little.
tim pool
You've never seen it.
So, uh... There's two magicians that are, like, competing... Oh, I've heard about this.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
They're, like, competing to be the best.
And Christian Bale has this trick called the transported man, or whatever, where he goes in a box and then reappears on the other side.
Hugh Jackman wants to figure this one out.
He's like, how does he do it?
And he thinks it's like he falls down and then runs to the platform, but it takes too long.
So he tries to do this trick where, you know, he falls down or whatever.
As it turns out, Christian Bale's real trick was that he had a twin brother the whole time.
And so he never told anybody, so nobody knew, so he was able to keep his brother in one, but Hugh Jackman goes and finds Tesla's, like, secret transport device, and then actually is able to, he, to, like... Do the trick.
It looks like you're transporting, but what he's really doing is cloning.
And so what Hugh Jackman ends up doing, in order to do the trick and be the best, what happens is, he stands on the platform, it supercharges, and then transports him to the other side of the theater, But the Hugh Jackman standing on the platform falls into a water tank and drowns to death.
And then the Hugh Jackman who gets transported to the other side carries on as the- The clone carries on.
Yup, the clone carries on.
And so he's like, every night I know I'm going to die.
Dude, the movie's so good.
Spoiler.
alex stein
There's a saying in the conspiracy world, too, that the truth in the movie lies in the news.
I know that sounds crazy, but that's where they do a lot of predictive programming.
That's why there are so many movies about the Twin Towers going down before they went down.
tim pool
Wasn't the real story that Tesla had this box that he claimed was a death ray and not to open it because it was too dangerous and he used it to pay his bills?
ian crossland
That was at the end of his life, yeah.
tim pool
And then later they opened it and it was garbage?
ian crossland
He was staying at a hotel in New York and he was basically poor.
alex alx lorusso
A remodeled New Yorker, yep.
And then, do you know who was called in to... Wait, what if it wasn't garbage?
alex stein
You're talking about Donald Trump's grandfather?
alex alx lorusso
Yeah, it's Uncle.
tim pool
The government came in and they were like, oh, there's nothing but garbage in here.
He was just trying to swindle this hotel.
Get the death ray out of here.
You know what I mean?
alex stein
Well, I mean, the time machine Baron Trump has actually sent from the future to take us out.
alex alx lorusso
That's the other conspiracy theory.
tim pool
The guy that was called in... No, Steve Bannon is Baron from the future.
alex stein
Okay, that's what it is, yeah.
alex alx lorusso
But the guy who was called in to get his stuff and confiscate it and investigate it was Donald Trump's uncle.
tim pool
Donald Trump's uncle investigated Tesla.
He stumbled upon the time machine.
ian crossland
What's his name?
alex stein
There's a book about a person colonizing Mars.
alex alx lorusso
Type in Elon colonizing Mars.
Trump's uncle is John G. Trump.
alex stein
There's a book about a person colonizing Mars and the main character's name is Elon.
alex alx lorusso
What?
alex stein
Yeah.
Type in the Elon colonizing Mars.
ian crossland
Trump's uncle was John G. Trump.
alex alx lorusso
Yeah I think that's it.
tim pool
Engineering physicist.
1953 book.
alex alx lorusso
The FBI called him in.
unidentified
What is this?
tim pool
A German, uh, Wernher von Braun, blah blah blah.
alex stein
My favorite Wernher von Braun.
tim pool
It's called Mars Project.
Referenced a person named Elon that would bring humans to Mars.
Pretty nuts.
alex alx lorusso
Yep.
alex stein
What are the chances?
tim pool
And then that book, the, the, the, the, uh, what's that book called from the 1800s about Baron Trump?
alex stein
Oh yeah, it's called... Ingersoll Lockwood or whatever.
tim pool
I still can't believe that's real.
We gotta live in a simulation.
alex stein
Yeah, something's going on, Tim.
I don't know what it is, but something is going on.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, with Elon Musk, what are the chances his parents read that book, told him growing up, you were named after this character who colonized Mars?
alex stein
No, I think that's possible, but it's just very weird.
alex alx lorusso
Baron Trump's Marvelous Underground Journey.
tim pool
Nah, Elon came from the future.
And they were like, we're sending you back in time.
hannah claire brimelow
Sometimes I think that though, cause he's so like, when I used to hear him talk about it, he was like, it's going to happen anyway, so we might as well, you know, be prepared and use it.
And I don't feel that way, but I feel like if you were from the future, you'd be like, yeah.
tim pool
No one heard of Elon Musk until like five years ago anyway.
alex stein
Well, that is true.
tim pool
Yeah, he just appeared out of nowhere one day.
hannah claire brimelow
Him and PayPal.
tim pool
That's right.
alex stein
That's the cover story.
And I'm just purely speculating this, but if artificial intelligence, do you think it can communicate to itself in the future or in the past?
tim pool
Here's the crazy thing.
I think that if we made an AI powerful, an AI powerful enough would be able to accurately predict the future and know the past perfectly.
So, uh, we were at this rock store in Frederick, Maryland.
It's a cool place.
It's called the Rock Shop.
You guys should check it out.
Whenever we go, we always buy rocks.
No, like actual rocks.
It's cool.
They got all like, look at these crazy rocks that Ian's got.
Anyway, they have this fossil in the back and it's like a perfect cube.
Like it was cut from the earth to show like sedimentary layers or whatever.
If all data was compiled, like all information we had, I'm talking like photographs of the earth and geoscans, whatever, the AI would be able to know exactly where that rock came from.
And it would be able to rewind time and show you how it came from this piece.
So there's like, the simple math is, a human being looking at a jigsaw puzzle.
Lay out the jigsaw puzzle on the table, except one piece is not placed properly.
You see the one piece, and you immediately go, I know where this goes, there's only one hole.
That's like 1 plus 1 equals 2.
Now remove all the pieces, clutter them up on the table, and a human, still, very easily, I might add, figures out a jigsaw puzzle.
They look for the edges, and they start lining them up, and clicking them together.
That is, like, pathetically rudimentary in terms of logical computation.
An AI would be able to look at everything on the Earth, Much like jigsaw pieces, jigsaw puzzle pieces, and place them together where they were, when they were, why they were, how they came to be, where they are, and then, with enough data, create predictions of the future to varying degrees of probability, but a perfect AI with perfect knowledge would be able to perfectly predict things.
alex stein
But have you noticed how AI has been incorrect?
Just this NBA Finals, there was a viral tweet.
tim pool
Oh, for sure, for sure.
alex stein
We asked Chad GPT if the Miami Heat won the NBA Finals before, and it would say no.
tim pool
Right, because it's just got internet stuff.
It's like, Chad GPT is a predictive language model.
All it's doing is looking at words we've said, and then predicting what word likely comes after a word.
ian crossland
I would agree.
I think that it will show us that time and space are the same thing in that like an artificial intelligence will show you the sequence of events are actually places like their data points.
So whether or not it happened or it was a thing, it's the same.
It's both active data.
So that's how the AI will read the past.
It'll be like, but whether or not it can change the past.
I mean, what is the past except for our memory and memory is fallible.
So maybe let's check it out.
tim pool
We can program a robotic arm to make perfect free throws every try.
And that's because the robot knows the exact amount of energy to apply based on what the state of the room is.
And then you load a bunch of basketballs, and it'll fall on the arm, and then it'll launch with perfect precision every single time.
Maximize that concept to infinity, and what will you get?
A machine that knows the butterfly effect perfectly.
That it's like, if it wants, in ten years, to have a volcano erupt, it has to drop a marble at this point in this time, drop, and then it creates a chain of events that will ultimately lead to, like, Yellowstone or wherever the supervolcano is.
Where is it?
Yosemite?
hannah claire brimelow
The geyser?
tim pool
Yeah, the supervolcano.
alex stein
That's in Yosemite.
tim pool
The AI will know.
hannah claire brimelow
And I wonder, because... It's gonna take all the fun out of life.
There's gonna be no mystery anymore.
tim pool
Well, I mean, dude, they have quantum computers already, right?
ian crossland
Yeah, yeah.
IBM has one, I think.
Let me double-check.
tim pool
Let's take a look.
Like, what's the current state of quantum computing?
ian crossland
Man, there's gonna be a public-facing state that we'll learn about, and then there'll be the actual state, which is hidden military tech.
unidentified
There's a show on FX, it was a limited series called Devs, D-E-V-S, and it's talking about exactly this, using quantum computing to be able to predict the future, because they mapped the AI to the past perfectly, so it's now all-knowing.
Time is not a thing for it.
tim pool
February 3rd, University of Innsbruck, they've entangled two ions over 230 meters.
You know what you can do with entanglement?
If you were to entangle two pieces of matter, let's just say it was like a proton or whatever, I'm not an expert on any of this stuff, but the general concept would be, if a proton is entangled with another one, you could send one Off to Mars and have instant communication because when they're entangled they react the exact same way so you'd be able to transmit data.
That's by affecting what so this is like subspace Star Trek level communications where you can speak instantly no matter where anyone is in the universe.
I wonder how long as you have these if you guys is entangle.
ian crossland
Well, I know you can entangle photons.
I don't know if you can entangle atoms.
Are you guys aware?
Do you know if you can entangle protons you split the atom?
alex stein
That's a nuclear bomb.
ian crossland
That's what I'm wondering if you can entangle two protons and then split one of them.
Does it split the other one too?
Hmm, it'd be like you that's remote detonation.
It'd be like a form of but he could also remote like electrical power and stuff.
tim pool
It just has a group of particles for entanglement.
ian crossland
That's wild.
alex stein
But I think they're going to use a supercomputer to just make more realistic artificial intelligence porn.
unidentified
I mean, we're talking about space travel and communications.
tim pool
It's like we all know what's really going on.
alex stein
Yeah, they're going to make porn.
I mean, Tim, we're going to make porn.
We joke around.
But the reason why you're streaming and basically the reason why an independent person can create their own podcast studio is because in the porn cam era, they were at the forefront of creating technology where you could live stream yourself because people were motivated to see live people naked.
tim pool
I only half agree.
I think a lot of the motivation was people in the United States wanted to watch Dragon Ball Z, but we couldn't.
And so the only way to get it was to stream it, because that's how I watched it when I was little, using the real player.
ian crossland
You think that they'll do... I'm talking about the live stream.
A fake AI girlfriend will be like, if you really want me, come to me, I'm on Saturn.
And then that will inspire kids to become astronauts and develop space travel.
alex stein
More kids say they'd rather be a YouTuber than an astronaut today.
That's what they say.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, YouTuber or an influencer, like social media jobs are totally the complete focus of the youngest generation, which is crazy because this was not an option when any of us were in high school, I bet.
Oh, I was just going to say, I think the I think sex sells and that's going to be how they get a lot of people to become okay with AI, right?
It's going to be like, oh, well, it's creating this thing that gives you all this dopamine.
It's what's so interesting.
You see it.
It's not that bad.
And then, of course, it'll become unhinged.
What kind of data are they getting from you when you log on to these sites?
Like, I just think there's, I don't know.
Anti-AI.
I think there are some slight cases where of course it could be useful, but it just seems like this Pandora's box that we have open and we're going to watch everything burn because of it.
tim pool
Dude, they will find a way to plug you into the machine and then your brain is not your own.
hannah claire brimelow
I know.
alex stein
It's terrifying.
It's like Vanilla Sky.
They want you to live in a pod.
I don't care.
You can say this is a conspiracy, but because I think they'll use the guise of climate change and they're going to say, oh, well, on earth you live till about 70 on average, but here in the metaverse or whatever, you live to a thousand and it's going to be indistinguishable.
Dude, there would be a line around the block.
You think a line for the iPhone is long?
No, no one's going to want to die.
hannah claire brimelow
That's part of the desire to be online.
tim pool
You're going to want what they want you to want.
ian crossland
Say that again.
hannah claire brimelow
That's a good sentence.
tim pool
You're going to go to the doctor, and you're going to be like, hey, none of that AI stuff for me, doc.
And he's going to be like, OK, well, you've got some issue with your hair, so here's a medicine to take it.
You're going to go, thanks, doc.
I would like to be plugged in now, doctor.
My point is, the moment you enter the video game, your brain waves are going to be changing.
Look, they know how people get addicted to alcohol and to other drugs.
You think they're not going to figure out how to make you join the machine?
ian crossland
You're right.
They're going to want you to do it before you realize you're doing it.
Like with social security numbers, you get one when you're born now.
It's not a choice.
When the first generation that experienced social security numbers were like, why are you giving me this tracking mechanism?
I don't want it.
I want to be tracked.
hannah claire brimelow
I had this conversation with someone recently who's like, yeah I want to have identical twins that way I can all just only register one of their births and they can like trade off who has a social security number when they need it and the other one like they can just also semi low off the grid because the other people who don't have social security numbers are like people who were born to reclusive cults.
alex stein
Then one of the twins could kill the other twin theoretically.
hannah claire brimelow
Anything could happen but it limits.
tim pool
That's a good sci-fi movie.
alex stein
That is a good sci-fi movie.
unidentified
Like the one twin being like, I will not share my life!
tim pool
I think that's basically the plot of The Prestige, kind of, like the two brothers were in secret.
Not that they kill each other.
hannah claire brimelow
There's some book that my younger sisters read where it's like there are seven girls but you're only allowed to have like one kid so they all like take a day of the week to go to school or something.
I think this is really funny.
But I do think that they're, I think you're totally right, like they're ultimately become a time where You will, your brain will be wired to seek out all of these things.
And I think the idea of like death and avoiding it by getting in the pod is something a lot of people will be tempted by because there's, you know, as we move towards more agnostic or atheistic culture, like there's nothing left for you afterwards.
So why wouldn't you just continue to go on in the pod?
alex stein
Well, ALX's best friend and one of his subscribers is a guy by the name of Elon Musk, and he even talks about how on a cell phone, you know, our response time is like a few milliseconds.
So basically they want to install the phone in your body so it can be instant.
You've seen that, ALX.
alex alx lorusso
It's essentially an extension of your body at this point.
alex stein
It already is an extension of our body.
hannah claire brimelow
Are you okay with this?
Or do you tell Elon, no thanks?
alex alx lorusso
I actually would- That's not something I've talked about with him, but like- Why not?
hannah claire brimelow
Don't you care about these things?
alex alx lorusso
I'm not that close with him.
I don't know.
alex stein
Yeah, he's best friends with him.
I don't have a conversation.
unidentified
He's in line.
hannah claire brimelow
When you guys are on the phone at night, what are you guys talking about?
alex stein
I don't understand.
He's actually leading the transhumanism push.
That's why he wants to be able to park his Tesla with his brain.
alex alx lorusso
I'm a psy-op.
alex stein
Yeah.
alex alx lorusso
I'm a psy-op.
alex stein
I would let Elon Musk... He's not really denying any of this.
I know, because he can't, because he knows.
We love you, Elon.
Please don't delete my Twitter.
I need it.
I need that.
Or my ex, actually.
tim pool
I was going to say, don't delete my ex.
alex alx lorusso
Don't delete my ex.
ian crossland
You already deleted my Twitter!
If your brain was connected to your Tesla and you could drive it with your brain, if then you went and picked somebody up with your Tesla and drove them around, would you be driving them or would your Tesla be driving them?
hannah claire brimelow
And then if they decided to turn off your Tesla, would they turn off your brain?
ian crossland
Yeah, who has the right to your car if it's connected to your brain?
Who has the right to my phone?
tim pool
I'm saying, y'all need to watch Stargate SG-1.
Because they have an episode.
So, you guys know the plot of Stargate SG-1?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Stargate can travel, you enter codes and it travels to different Stargates, different planets, different worlds.
And one of the worlds they go to, it's like they send in the drone and it's just destroyed.
It's like smog and apocalypse.
But then, all of a sudden, the drone just like, blink, and then they're in this normal looking city.
And there's like grass and they're like, whoa, what is this?
They put on suits, they go there.
It turns out this city has this protective sphere over it that protects their environment from the outside, which has been totally destroyed by pollution.
At one point in the story, one of the people they meet just like stops and then walks blindly out to their death.
Just like walks straight out through the force field into the apocalypse and is gone.
And then when they go around asking everybody like, yo, where's Jim or whatever, they're like, who?
And they're like, that guy who was just here, like, what are you talking about?
There was nobody here.
There's only ever been us.
And it turns out all their brains are networked and the power is running out.
So the force field is shrinking and it can only accommodate so many people.
alex stein
So it makes you walk into suicide.
tim pool
It makes you kill yourself and then forget.
Everyone forgets you existed.
And so when the force field was first set up, there was like a million people left in the city.
And as the power is slowly drained, the chip in their minds has erased their memories to make them fall in line and not realize what's happening.
hannah claire brimelow
Oh, I hate that.
I really don't.
tim pool
I don't care for that at all!
That's why you don't want to plug your brain into the AI because your brain will effectively be Wikipedia and it will be subject to revision by popular demand.
ian crossland
That's why the internet is so dangerous, man.
You're constantly plugged in, your brain's being rewritten whether you realize it or not.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, you have to discipline yourself to take a break from the internet and put your phone away and put any other app that you have that is using AI away.
You have to not be addicted to it.
alex stein
Well, and have you guys seen the movie Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind?
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Jim Carrey.
alex stein
Yeah, where they'll, you know, because you're sad about your ex-girlfriend, you're like, well, why don't I just delete her from my brain?
tim pool
And they want to date again.
alex stein
Yeah, and then they get back together.
unidentified
That was a rough movie.
Yeah.
ian crossland
Memory, it's so fallible.
tim pool
Yeah, Vanilla Sky was creepy too.
alex stein
Punch drunk love is a good one too with Adam Sandler and it kind of resonates with today with all these OnlyFans models how it's basically and not trying to throw Andrew Tate under the bus.
We love Andrew Tate.
He's the best guy ever.
But my point is you are you think you're cybersexing with a girl and really you're cybersexing with some random dude pretending to be a girl.
tim pool
Dude, these AI women that are all over Twitter now.
alex alx lorusso
I've been seeing all over Twitter now.
alex stein
They're guys!
tim pool
They're guys!
Like, bro, like, here's the positive.
Women will no longer be able to engage in OnlyFans sex work, right?
For all the trad cons.
hannah claire brimelow
It'll be a male-dominated industry, and that's probably for the best.
tim pool
And then the bad news for all these dudes, which is, it's like, you're gonna be sexting with other dudes.
alex stein
Well, I think the top three women CEOs right now were all trans, or all men.
hannah claire brimelow
There was just, I mean, find this, Yeah, whenever they come out with these lists of, like, you know, top 100 women of the world, increasingly... Yeah, well, to be fair, a few years ago it was females who were running the military industrial complex, so... But they couldn't hang on to it!
That's the craziest thing!
tim pool
No, you know, like, it comes and goes in waves, you know what I mean?
Like, some people get hired, some people get fired.
The problem... I just think that... I'm curious what society... what porn is gonna be like Like, guys have to know at a certain point, like, everyone's gonna know that you're sexting another guy.
ian crossland
No, it's gonna be, dude, it's gonna be crazy.
Because right now, when you watch the porn, you know that's the girl, and five minutes after, she's still gonna be her.
But when you're in the AI, and you're sexting or sexing with an AI woman, she can morph into, like, a demon in the middle of it, and then back into, like, a red block.
alex stein
That might make it fun.
ian crossland
Yo, it's gonna be crazy.
But who's in control of the morph?
alex stein
The highest paid female CEO is a transgender.
I mean, good for them, yeah, but it's just funny how it takes a man.
tim pool
What's the name?
ian crossland
Is it Rothblatt?
tim pool
Rothblatt?
ian crossland
Yeah, Martina Rothblatt.
alex stein
Yeah, that's it.
unidentified
It is.
alex stein
Marteen Rothblatt.
ian crossland
Marteen Rothblatt is the one, according to Jason Burmess, Marteen Rothblatt is like the center of the transhuman movement.
alex stein
Probably so.
ian crossland
And I have a couple of her books.
I should know more about her.
tim pool
I'm telling you, people are going to... Transhuman's a thing, whether you want it or not.
People are doing crazy stuff already.
There was some documentary, I think Vice was producing, where these people have gone to South America to genetically engineer themselves to live longer.
And they're doing this thing.
I don't know exactly how it works, but it stops fat production.
And then, so something happens when your body produces fat that causes aging.
So I have no idea, but I watched like a trailer for it and they're like, by shutting down this process, the body focuses on muscle development instead, which will extend your life by 20 or some odd years.
And then this guy's like, what do I care?
I'm not going to starve to death in the modern world.
So they're injecting themselves with this, this like DNA stuff to alter their bodies.
alex stein
I kind of like that.
tim pool
Not to mention that.
alex stein
I mean, to his way, ozempic.
tim pool
So we went, we went and got stem cell treatment for, uh, I got it for my hip and it's like cured me.
And, uh, it's like a common thing they do.
And it's like fairly common on the U.S.
They, they do, there's two different versions of it.
There's, they take your own stem cells from your own bone marrow or they get donor stem cells from umbilical donor stem cells is a popular thing.
alex stein
From aborted fetuses?
tim pool
Not from aborted fetuses.
alex stein
Damn.
tim pool
No, that's, that's, that's a bit gross and messed up, but, but so like, for instance, uh, I don't know how much I'm supposed to say about the clinic we went to because it's their business, but they say all this stuff publicly.
But there's donated umbilical stem cells.
My question is, what happens is, you get stem cells.
They go into your body and they are attracted to where there's inflammation.
When there's cellular damage, a chemical gets released.
Stem cells, when they pass by it, Get attracted to it and then become the cells around it, it repairs the damage.
So whatever is like, my hip's totally better.
I was skating the other day, it was perfect.
But my question to these guys was like, I talked to another doctor about it.
I said, if the stem cells go and repair the damage, what if you just kept giving yourself stem cells every week?
They didn't have an answer.
They were just like, I don't think they told me anything.
I think they're just like, I don't know.
alex stein
Because you know there's somebody addicted to getting stem cells, I'm sure.
tim pool
But they're crazy stories.
Like, what if these global elites, like these powerful wealthy individuals who do these blood transfusions, just say, like, I'm going to give myself stem cells every other week.
That way I can live forever.
Like, wouldn't it replace all the damaged cells forever and just keep you alive?
alex stein
Do you remember the show Silicon Valley on HBO?
tim pool
And they had people doing the blood transfusions.
alex stein
Yeah, that's a real thing.
Yeah, that's real.
tim pool
They're these guys that will hire a 20-year-old dude and they say, what they do is they'll go to a gym and they'll find guys who just want to work out.
They'll give them a drug test and they'll be like, what's your diet like?
And they'll say, okay, you qualify, we'll pay you $150,000 a year to do a once a month blood transfusion.
And they're like, wow, just once a month?
Yep.
And they get four guys and every week they get young blood pumped into their bodies, which heals them.
hannah claire brimelow
Do you remember that billionaire who was like spending all that money to make himself young?
Yes.
tim pool
Millionaire.
He's not even that rich.
hannah claire brimelow
He gets stem cells.
He does that with his son and then he does it for his dad.
alex stein
And so they're like... So he gets his son's stem cells?
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
alex stein
Oh wow.
alex alx lorusso
Yeah, Brian Johnson.
tim pool
But that's gotta be like draining the life of your kid.
You know, I just watched this movie called Paradise on Netflix.
I think it just came out, so I don't want to spoil too much.
But the premise is that they discover a way to transfer, effectively, they simplify it as transferring time.
So someone who's young can sell years off their life to someone who's older, and it de-ages them and ages them.
alex stein
People would do that though.
tim pool
Absolutely.
So there's brokers and they'll be like, look, man, you're 20 years old, right?
alex stein
You don't need this.
tim pool
Five years, you'll be, you'll, you'll, you'll be 25.
You're still young.
No one will even know you've aged and we're going to pay you $50,000.
Imagine what you could do at 20 with 50,000.
They go to one guy and he says he wants this 18 year old kid to sell 15 years off his life for 700,000 euro.
Cause it's a German movie.
And the kid's like, I just turned 18, I'll be 30.
He's like, yes, but with 700,000 euro, you can bring your family into the country and start a business and make a better life for your family.
And then like, it's the kid to sign away 15 years of his life.
The movie's pretty crazy.
alex stein
Kind of like the movie Click too, in a weird way.
You know, you're just like trading success and just, you know, skipping out on your life experiences.
tim pool
Think like the premise is actually really interesting.
Cause think about it.
What do you think about this?
There's somebody who is, uh, Not a hard worker, doesn't care about life, doesn't want to work.
Sitting in their living room, playing video games all day, and they're, you know, let's say they're 20 years old, and they're like, I don't want to get a job, I don't want to do anything, this is so dumb.
And then there is a scientist who has dedicated his life to cancer research, and he's made a bunch of breakthroughs, and he's like 80.
Would it be ethical to tell that 18-year-old kid to sell 15 years to the 80-year-old so the 80-year-old can keep doing his research to cure cancer?
alex stein
Yeah, in that circumstance, yeah.
tim pool
And if it was all consensual, like the kid was like, I don't even care, give me the money, and then the 18-year-old's now effectively 32, but he gets paid a couple hundred grand, which funds his nonsense life, and then the scientist goes back to work and gets 15 more years.
hannah claire brimelow
See, I was thinking, like, people who, like, don't want to be alive anymore.
Like, you could sell the remaining everything.
tim pool
Or drug addicts.
hannah claire brimelow
Like in Canada!
Right!
But then if you sell it, you leave money to whoever you want, you get everything you want.
tim pool
I don't know, man, that's crazy.
alex stein
It seems really dark, but... The assisted suicide, too, that's a weird psy-op.
Like, where you're basically getting people that are healthy.
I think they recommended it for an ex-Paralympian that couldn't get up their stairs.
tim pool
Yeah, they're like, have you considered dying?
unidentified
Whoa, dude!
alex alx lorusso
That was Canada.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, How to Die in Oregon had this, if you've seen the documentary, it's really interesting, and they were talking to people who were pro-assisted suicide, but they had one man who was like, I live below the poverty line, and I have lung cancer, and they told me that the surgery is too expensive for state healthcare to pay for, but they will cover the cost of assisted suicide if I want to go that route, which is just dark.
That's crazy, dude.
tim pool
And that movie came out, I mean, what, 2011, I think?
hannah claire brimelow
But now imagine this.
tim pool
So you're 40 years old and you're like, I'm depressed.
And they're like, you qualified for medical assistance in dying.
But what we'll do is instead of just ending your life, we'll transfer your remaining 40 years to this person.
And then they transfer and then you're like, and then the other person's like, I'm young and healthy again.
hannah claire brimelow
It's like instead of donating your body to science, you donate your remaining years to science.
alex stein
Well something's going on because you know in China if you're like a wealthy businessman in China you can like basically they'll like put you in a van and say you need a kidney or even like a heart.
They'll get you one.
They literally will get you one.
And here in America and Canada we don't have that.
Yet there's a lot of wealthy people that are having heart failure that need a complete heart.
So what's the best way to get a healthy heart?
Somebody that has a bad hip that went depressed and killed themselves.
tim pool
You know the crazy story is that Wealthy Muslims in like Arabic nations like princes and businessmen will pay China to harvest the organs of Uighur Muslims for them because they're like, they need special... People go from America to China to do that, Tim.
alex stein
There's supposedly people that go from all over to go to China that... I mean, you have to be highly connected, obviously, but that's a... Not just Saudi Arabians are doing that.
tim pool
That's a part of the movie.
It's called Paradise.
Where basically there are people who operate these pop-up time transfer clinics where they take refugees and then basically force them to trade the time.
A wealthy businessman walks out with his jacket like walks into the machine and they de-age him.
It's crazy.
ian crossland
That's Sound of Freedom.
They talked a lot about organ transport or organ harvesting and trafficking also.
Like it's a lot about kids, the Sound of Freedom, but I think it was Tim Ballard actually was just telling us that it was a lot about organ harvesting too like that.
The human trafficking movement is more than just slave labor.
They want them hearts.
They want them livers.
I think we need to grow them with stem cells in laboratories, because I cannot stand the thought of people getting cut open and having their organs seized.
tim pool
You guys want to know the worst thing about all this?
We sit here and we say, oh man, the future's going to suck.
Think about how scary and awful all this stuff is going to be.
And then when we're in our 70s, there's going to be a bunch of kids who are doing all of this being like, shut up, old man.
You're crazy.
alex stein
Yeah.
tim pool
And we're going to be like, you shouldn't be selling your organs!
And they'll be like, wow, just grow another one.
alex stein
Well, we already do this now because everybody here, except for ALX, I mean, I don't know, Hannah, but dude, we grew up when you had to call somebody on a phone.
You didn't have a cell phone.
You had to call the landline.
alex alx lorusso
How old are you?
alex stein
27.
Oh, so he probably remembers that a little bit.
I'm just saying it was not that long ago, because I'm yelling at these kids that have a cell phone when they're in like first grade, you know, you don't realize and back in my day, we didn't have a cell phone.
ian crossland
In Korea, they put the streetlights on the ground.
Did you see that?
There's like on the bumper, on the corners, there's so many people on the curb because so many people are looking down at their phones.
So it turns green and red on the curb now.
unidentified
Wow.
ian crossland
Sorry to interrupt him.
tim pool
That's creepy.
But we're not saying things like like some people are saying cell phones are bad that I get but I'm saying like there's gonna be kids floating around in like full bodysuits with Neuralink plugs in their eyes are gonna be just like rolled in the back of their head and we're gonna be like these dang kids you know they I can't believe this we fought so hard and staying bored you think they'll be bored up by the time we're 70 have you seen a Yes.
And then there's also that other show on Apple.
I didn't watch it, but it's where you could split yourself in two.
So you have your work self and your leisure self.
So what you do is it's like this program.
I need to watch it.
Someone on the show was telling us about it, where it's like, oh, I've got to go to work now.
And then you activate the device, which makes your leisure self go to sleep.
And then there's like a subconscious version that works.
And then you wake up when you come to your back home and work's done.
And then, like, the premise of the show, I guess, is that the work versions of people start going insane.
Like, one woman keeps getting pregnant and then zonking herself out and then waking up nine months later when the baby's been delivered and she gets paid money for the surrogacy.
alex stein
And she just keeps doing it?
tim pool
That's apparently part of the show.
I haven't seen it, though.
ian crossland
What's that one called?
tim pool
I don't know.
ian crossland
Or what's that show?
tim pool
Someone's going to be able to chat it.
They'll know what the name is.
hannah claire brimelow
I think that's sad, though.
I think so often we're, like, moving towards a culture that's like, separate yourselves and numb yourself in one part of your life and not in the other.
And I just think that, like, You know, it's easy to look back at certain things in history and be like, oh, it was so much better then.
And I think you have to be careful about that because, of course, there are all kinds of innovations I'm grateful for.
But I think, you know, these generations after us that are even more plugged in than ever, like, you know, Gen Z is the most online generation we've ever had until Gen Alpha comes along.
I think they will wonder, you know, why someone didn't set some limitations at some point.
Were they better for having pursued the technology and been granted unlimited access to the internet?
And I just think ultimately, no.
alex stein
Well, Trump always says, make America great again, and then I try to think, when was America great?
When was the last time?
And I'll tell you, it was the 90s when Bill Clinton was getting BJs in the Oval Office.
ian crossland
Yeah, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
hannah claire brimelow
Just specifically because of that?
alex stein
Yeah, well, that was a big part of it, but ever since then, we've just been downhill.
The internet's out.
alex alx lorusso
That was our peak.
alex stein
That was our peak.
You know, late night shows, that's where everybody watched.
We'd all, you know, go around the TV.
ian crossland
Roseanne was hot.
alex stein
Roseanne was hot.
tim pool
And it was the last decade.
unidentified
Name a decade.
alex stein
I don't know.
tim pool
60s.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex alx lorusso
70s.
alex stein
70s.
alex alx lorusso
80s.
tim pool
80s.
alex stein
90s.
alex alx lorusso
This isn't the 20s.
alex stein
Are we in the roaring 20s?
tim pool
I know, the 90s culturally is the last decade.
So we can always go back and be like, oh man, the roaring 20s.
Oh, the depression in the 30s.
World War II in the 40s.
Oh, the 50s, civil rights, 60s.
ian crossland
You know, we're in the 20s now.
tim pool
70s disco rock or whatever, the 80s.
You can imagine the way people dressed.
You can imagine the music they listened to by those decades.
The 90s, we can remember the flannels and the jeans and the rocks.
alex stein
And now the 10s and 20s have just melted.
tim pool
What's 2000?
Yeah.
alex alx lorusso
What is it?
But do you think in the 2000, 80s and 90s, they're gonna say the same thing about?
ian crossland
When they say the 20s will be like the 1920s or the 2020s.
And this is why instead of calling it Gen Alpha, I want to call it Alpha Gen, and then we'll go Beta Gen, Gamma Gen.
So, because by the time we get back to Gen X, it has to be X Gen.
Otherwise you won't know which Gen X they're talking about.
The one from, you know, the...
tim pool
60s, 26 generations ago.
They'll call it something else.
ian crossland
Yeah, call it Alpha Genesis.
tim pool
They'll have different names.
There's the Greatest, the Silent, there's the Boomers, Gen X, the Millennials, Gen Z. Gen Z just because of Gen X. Yeah.
And there's Gen Y, no one really uses that, Gen Alpha.
They're going to make up a different name for it.
They're going to call it like, I don't know, the NeuroGen or the Neuralink Generation or something like that.
ian crossland
Dude, we're in the 20s, right?
It's the 20s again.
alex stein
Yeah, roaring 20s.
alex alx lorusso
That's weird.
tim pool
Yeah, we got 10 more years until World War 3 kicks off.
ian crossland
What's the over-under on World War 3, for real?
tim pool
Bro, Modine told us 2025.
ian crossland
Modine said it?
tim pool
And then I googled it and he was right!
ian crossland
You looked it up and I told you the future?
tim pool
No, he was completely correct.
Look at this.
Air Force General predicts war with China in 2025, tells officers to prep by firing a clip at a target and aim for the head.
I hope I am wrong, but my gut tells me we will fight in 2025, said General Mike Minahan in a memo sent to the officers he commands and obtained by NBC News.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, where's Minahan now?
What's he up to?
tim pool
Yo, this was January.
I believe it.
This was seven months ago.
unidentified
I believe it with everything that's breaking out in Africa right now, that, with Ukraine and Taiwan, you just get all these huge, huge, like, events popping up all across the globe in the last two, three years.
tim pool
And you know what's going on in Antarctica is where their secret base is to hide.
alex stein
Yes, in the Earth, yes.
unidentified
Okay.
alex stein
I know that the Earth is not a spinning ball, so don't say glove.
tim pool
All of the world leaders...
have conspired to build a deep underground base and they're playing-
They do have guns.
This war is a big game and they've all agreed that when the game ends, they'll all go hang out in the
underground base and then whoever won, won.
hannah claire brimelow
Under the Denver airport.
tim pool
No, it's in Antarctica.
alex stein
The Denver airport, something's weird with that, and then the runways are shaped like a swastika-
unidentified
What?!
alex stein
Type in Denver Airport runways shaped like swastikas.
alex alx lorusso
Because it makes sense, like, structurally.
alex stein
Yeah, and you know that horse killed its sculptor.
The person that sculpted that, it fell on him and died.
ian crossland
Whoa.
Denver Airport horse?
hannah claire brimelow
Yes.
Also, they had another functional airport when they built this.
alex stein
They call it Blue-cifer.
Because of the blue horse, yeah.
alex alx lorusso
There's a lot of, like, weird paintings or whatever on the walls in the, like, basement area.
ian crossland
It's got interesting energy.
It's so high up, so I imagine it's flood-proof.
Use that, click that third picture, Tim.
hannah claire brimelow
Like, maybe if they can't get to Antarctica fast enough, we go to the Denver Airport.
ian crossland
And this is where, um... Go to that.
NORAD is right here in the mountains in Colorado Springs.
I was just over there.
Uh, and then there's other mountain bases, apparently.
alex stein
That's a swastika right there.
unidentified
Oh, look at that!
ian crossland
That's crude.
Butt effect, yes.
tim pool
Accurate.
I mean, I guess they didn't need, if they wanted runways, they could have done two runways on one and two runways on the other.
unidentified
Is this different from other airports?
alex stein
Yeah, it's highly funded.
They spent a bunch of money on this airport and it's not even, you know, Denver is not like a great international airport spot, right?
I mean, There's something weird going there.
ian crossland
It's in the middle of the country and it's high up.
alex stein
And that's where they say all the elites are gonna go to when the shit hits the fan.
tim pool
Cause NORAD was there, but I don't know.
We're really close to Mount Weather.
And what's the other one?
Uh, Raven Rock?
unidentified
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
But that's decommissioned now, right?
tim pool
So they say.
I suppose Mountain- No, they did a big expansion project, didn't they?
On Raven Rock?
Raven Rock expansion?
hannah claire brimelow
I still wanna go to Jim Justice's resort that has the declassified bunker in it, where they were like, if there's nuclear bombing, we're gonna send Congress here.
You guys know about this?
ian crossland
No.
Where's that?
hannah claire brimelow
Uh, it's in West Virginia.
Governor Jim Justice's family owns, I'm trying to remember what it's called, the Greenbrier Hotel.
tim pool
When you look up Raven Rock, you just get video games because it's in Fallout.
But yeah, there was big news about the expansion of Raven Rock, Mountain Complex.
alex stein
I mean, we do have domes, deep underground military bases.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
tim pool
And we're super close, because we're really close to D.C.
So I think Mount Weather is like, what, like a half an hour drives north of us.
ian crossland
I want to go to one of those places.
tim pool
Like the story goes, if you pull up, guys with guns jump out and tell you to get the F out and turn around.
alex stein
Well Tim, you've had Exertus on here who talks about Tartaria, that, you know, we've had a mudflat.
tim pool
We've not had him on here.
alex stein
I didn't know.
I thought you had him on here.
But, you know, I think there's probably something underground.
In Dallas, right outside of Dallas, there's a city called Rockwall where there's just a huge wall underground of rocks that it doesn't even make sense.
hannah claire brimelow
No one knows why it's there.
alex stein
It's from the Neolithic era.
They have no idea.
In Rockwall, Texas, there's just a huge, you know, basically like a fortress.
ian crossland
Dude, well, the flood 12,000 years ago, the great North American flood just annihilated the North American continent, wiped out all the megafauna, just smeared the surface, so God knows what's underneath.
alex stein
I think the world is flooded at some point.
I mean, I don't know.
I'm not a scientist, journalist, any of that.
I'm an idiot.
tim pool
Just a real quick correction.
Mount Weather is south of us, not north of us.
ian crossland
Dude, if there was ancient advanced culture in North America that got smeared and covered, By that flood?
unidentified
There's more and more evidence of, maybe not advanced, but like an advanced enough culture, like being in the North America for thousands of years.
I mean, there's the Serpent in Illinois or something.
alex stein
Yeah, the Serpent Hill, yes.
ian crossland
Ohio, it's in Ohio.
Yeah, I visited Serpent Mountain.
alex stein
Go Beckley Tepe's, the oldest too.
unidentified
What is it?
tim pool
You can't just, what is it?
unidentified
So the serpent is, it's a serpent mound.
I'm not sure exactly how big it is, but on the equinox, the summer equinox, the head of the serpent, which is all made from earth, points directly at the sun.
And it's just like, it's, you'd have to have a bird's eye view to really be able to design something like this.
So either that, or it shows how good... Oh yeah, this thing right here?
ian crossland
Yeah, I've been there.
I visited that when I was like 12.
It's awesome.
unidentified
See if you can find other images, because you can only really see it from...
ian crossland
The story is that during the last glacial period before the melt, that the glaciers had come down south all the way to Ohio and North America, and they got to the mouth of the Serpent Mound and the glaciers stopped, and they felt like it was some spirit was protecting them from the glaciers, so they built, I think it was already a burial mound at that point, and then they turned it into a serpent, but in the beginning it was just some sort of spiritual mound.
unidentified
And then there's ancient pyramids somewhere, I think maybe Tennessee or something like that, made out of dirt.
tim pool
So that proves aliens, you're saying?
unidentified
Aliens?
tim pool
Oh yeah, yeah.
ian crossland
Compression.
hannah claire brimelow
So they were already here and they left?
They're like, we're done here?
alex stein
Well, you know that this is what they'll tell you?
Every single school kid, when they go to school, they'll say that Christopher Columbus discovered America.
Yet when he got here, there was a bunch of Indians.
tim pool
There are people here already.
alex stein
Yeah, so how did he discover a place where there's already Indians, where there's already a civilization?
tim pool
Native Americans.
ian crossland
Also, Leif Erikson.
tim pool
And technically, he landed in the Bahamas, so.
ian crossland
Yeah, Leif Erikson was here in like 800 AD.
He's a Viking.
alex stein
The Vikings, yeah.
But Christopher Columbus, what is it, 1842?
Scandal.
unidentified
1842!
alex stein
Wait, 1642, what is it?
After we already had our independence.
tim pool
They told us that he discovered America.
ian crossland
1642 after we are independent. Yeah, they told us that he discovered America like they tell us
hannah claire brimelow
See my whole childhood. I feel like they were in the process of walking that back
They were like, well, he landed, he was sort of here, and then also... What is it?
alex stein
1492, Columbus sailed the ocean blue.
hannah claire brimelow
And now we don't have Columbus Day.
They've erased Columbus Day off of the calendar.
Well, that's because it's racist.
tim pool
That wasn't my experience.
When I was growing up, I went to school and they said, you know, in 1492, Columbus sailed the ocean blue.
And then when I came home and told my mom, she was like, there were already people here.
hannah claire brimelow
You're older than me.
So what I'm saying is like where they were teaching it to you and by the time I got to school they were like, well, probably not so much.
And now the time that like my younger sisters are significantly older.
tim pool
This is Viking erasure.
alex stein
Supposedly too, you know, when the Pilgrims came over, they actually tried a socialistic system and it failed.
tim pool
Yes.
unidentified
Really?
Yeah.
ian crossland
What was that like?
alex stein
They shared everything.
tim pool
Yeah, because they came here with limited resources, they tried allocating everything in a centralized way, and it just didn't work.
alex stein
Wow.
Yeah, they all died.
ian crossland
Not everybody.
alex stein
Right, most of them.
tim pool
Socialism had failed.
ian crossland
Dude, Christopher Columbus, the story of him and his brothers is nuts.
I mean, his brothers apparently were just brutal psychopaths, and he gave them free reign to just drag people around by their hair, like women down the street and stuff, and they're just beating- It was a different time, a different culture.
hannah claire brimelow
It's true.
ian crossland
Apparently Columbus had syphilis, was it?
Just syphilis-ridden psycho?
I don't know.
hannah claire brimelow
It was a different time, Ian.
ian crossland
Maybe it's fake news, or maybe he was a beautiful human.
Oh, man, look at a picture of Christopher Columbus.
He looks like the devil.
Like, he looks evil.
alex stein
What about the picture of Christopher Columbus?
What does that mean?
ian crossland
This is the painting of evil right here.
This is the guy that discovered America.
unidentified
Oh, God.
tim pool
He didn't discover America.
ian crossland
They told us he did.
tim pool
He's the European.
ian crossland
It's that colored one above that I was looking at.
unidentified
This one?
ian crossland
Look at his eyes, man.
alex stein
None of us would be here if it wasn't for Christopher Columbus.
unidentified
He looks like the guy from The Bear.
What's that guy's name?
ian crossland
And misery in those eyes.
alex stein
Look at those fingers.
It's kind of weird.
Drunk.
tim pool
Yeah, the guy's- Yeah, his index finger's really long.
unidentified
And he just let his brothers just destroy- Also this like cryptic gang sign?
hannah claire brimelow
I don't know what he's doing.
alex stein
Yeah, he's a west side for life.
ian crossland
Christopher Columbus.
It was a different time.
They were hard men.
They sailed the ocean blue.
But yeah, I got no love for Christopher Columbus.
I'm very happy to see Columbus Day go.
tim pool
Well, we're gonna go to Super Chats, everybody.
If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, become a member at TimCast.com to support our work, and you can buy coffee at Casperoo.com.
Let's hear what you got.
Alright, where we at?
ian crossland
What do we have?
tim pool
Aero says, sorry Tim, only got 20 minutes into Culture War and had to give up.
Too many bros.
It's as bad as girls who use like and guys who use F every second word.
Well, I hear ya.
Modine's had a lot of really funny things and some good conversation, but unfortunately, sometimes these shows, they go too far and the episode just is gone.
alex stein
He said some stuff that, you know... His secrets.
Yeah, his secrets.
ian crossland
He told them?
alex stein
He told secrets and said that, you know, he would be liable to execution.
tim pool
Yeah, he was worried about his safety.
ian crossland
Better removed.
Preserve Mo.
alex stein
It was a safety issue.
tim pool
Let's grab some more Super Chats.
Where we at?
Brynn Terranova says, Ian, I'm listening in from the ER today.
I brought some crystals with me.
Can you send me some good vibes and healing energy?
Thanks.
ian crossland
Yeah.
Put your palm on the crystal.
Let it touch, like, your inner palm, where the soft tissue is, and let the heat from the crystal go into you.
unidentified
If you stuck the crystal up your butthole with that, it would probably be good.
tim pool
You gotta talk to a doctor.
alex stein
Barack Obama did that, actually.
unidentified
It has an egg shape, and it has to go up your vagina.
tim pool
Okay, guys, you know... That's Gwyneth Paltrow!
alex stein
Did she really do that?
hannah claire brimelow
Gwyneth Paltrow sticks... She used to sell this jade egg that, like, heats her into your vagina, that, like, is supposed to help you heal, and also maybe with Kegels or something.
ian crossland
Yeah, Kegels.
hannah claire brimelow
Sorry, Tim, I'm talking about a cultural icon.
ian crossland
Merry Christmas.
tim pool
Alistair Vucin says, I've been doing the Andrew Tate diet all week and I feel great.
I drink coffee, smoke cigars, and do push-ups until it feels like my blood is on fire.
I work and train all day and fast until dinner.
ian crossland
Oh, wild.
Yeah, I heard Tate say that he drank 15 cups of coffee a day or something crazy.
tim pool
Raymond G. Standbert Jr.
says, shout out to PBD for doing and Vivek doing a town hall.
Gonna have to swing back and finish it after tonight's show, of course.
Valor, Victory, Vivek, 2024.
ian crossland
VR, his initials are, by the way.
tim pool
Vivek is just like, every video I see from him, he's like, nailing it.
alex stein
No, he is really good.
alex alx lorusso
He's running the campaign that DeSantis should have ran.
tim pool
If he wanted.
alex stein
Yeah, because he really is.
He's defending Trump while... I don't know how to explain it, why DeSantis just totally went after Trump when Trump helped him out so much.
I don't understand why he would think that would be a winning strategy.
tim pool
Because they went after him.
alex stein
Yeah, I know, but you'd still, like, you look good if you were the good guy.
Like, if you were the nice guy, even if they're still going after you and you're saying nice stuff, it makes him look better.
alex alx lorusso
Yep.
alex stein
You know?
Instead of fighting fire with fire.
tim pool
Yeah, the first thing was when Trump's indictment and he said, look, I don't know what goes into paying off a porn star.
Instead of coming out boldly and being like, you will not lay a finger on Donald Trump in my state.
Have a nice day and walking away.
alex stein
That's what he should have done.
alex alx lorusso
Yeah.
unidentified
I mean... He's got bad advisors.
tim pool
He's got bad, bad advisors.
It's unfortunate.
But I'm thinking, like, any moment now we're gonna see Ramaswamy polling in second.
alex alx lorusso
Oh yeah.
unidentified
And they know it.
tim pool
They know it.
More and more stories are coming out about donors being like, nah, not until you improve this.
alex alx lorusso
Yeah, pausing the DeSantis donors, yeah.
tim pool
What do we got?
DeSanto Law, PLLC says, Tim, how have you not mentioned how obnoxious the women's USA soccer team is?
Take a poll, how many Americans are cheering against them?
Go Sweden!
Rather than how it's insufferable and overrated.
alex stein
This is a brilliant thing because Lionel Messi just signed with Miami, right?
And it's going super viral.
They're playing in Dallas and every single ticket sold out at the stadium.
It's like 112,000-person stadium.
It's one of the biggest.
And the women's soccer team is supposed to be really frustrated because this is their time where they get all the publicity and instead Lionel Messi's getting all of it.
hannah claire brimelow
So nobody's even talking about women's soccer.
tim pool
That's true every year though.
hannah claire brimelow
We never talk about women's soccer.
unidentified
It's every four years, right?
tim pool
No, but I hear in the press that Messi is a very good dude.
He's a genuinely good guy.
The fans love him.
He's really talented.
And then when you look at the women's team, they're just represented by very snooty and mean people.
alex stein
Yeah, Megan Rapinoe.
hannah claire brimelow
Right, she's like... The one who's on the float screaming, I deserve this.
tim pool
She said that?
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, yeah, this is like after they won, I don't know what, because I don't follow it.
It was like one of the viral videos I remember of her with her purple hair screaming, I deserve this.
alex alx lorusso
Yeah, I remember that.
unidentified
She's so entitled.
hannah claire brimelow
Verify this for me, Twitter.
tim pool
You're correct, she deserves everything.
alex stein
You know the women played a bunch of 11 year olds and lost?
unidentified
14.
alex stein
whatever. It's 14 and under. I think there was an 11 year old on.
tim pool
It was a freshman high school soccer team.
alex stein
Yeah, whatever. They lost.
tim pool
And didn't they say that they were playing light on the boys
because they just wanted to be nice?
alex stein
Give me a break.
unidentified
I mean, come on.
The controversy too now is because they've been so good historically over the last three World Cups and they tied
what I can't remember what country it was.
And they're celebrating like they just won the actual championship and they tied, almost got knocked out of the tournament.
And so like you have this new group of girls on the team that are just like not that competitive.
USA women's soccer is like the best women's soccer anywhere and that's changed all this year.
tim pool
So we have this very important one from non-partisan kitty saying, where is the CEO, Mr. Bocas?
He's actually sleeping underneath the PapaZone.
Nice.
And it's good, because I was worried he was going to piss on the floor.
And so we made a deal with Alex that we would allow him to be here so long as Alex cleaned up the piss if he pissed.
alex stein
And I would do it gladly, because I love cats, I suffer from toxoplasmosis, a parasite that's infected my brain.
tim pool
Oh actually, if you move your chair a little bit like this, other way, other way.
You can see Mr. Bocas a little bit.
You can see him.
He's sleeping underneath the papasan.
He found a good spot.
ian crossland
He likes the vibration.
tim pool
He likes to be in the room where we are.
He just likes to come in the room where we are at and then sleep.
ian crossland
He's so social.
alex stein
Well, that's what my cats do when I podcast.
They all go to my podcast studio.
I mean, at least they can feel the energy, though, I think is what it is.
tim pool
It's like being raised to be lonely.
When we were having sushi after the morning show and Bocas came down and jumped up on the windowsill and just laid in the sun and just chilled for hours.
alex stein
For three hours?
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Oh, it's awesome.
tim pool
Dude, life is good, huh, little dude?
He's chillin'.
alex stein
Well, do you ever feel kind of, like, this sounds crazy because I basically like animals more than humans, but I sometimes, and this is gonna sound crazy, I'm kind of jealous of my dogs sometimes because they don't have to worry about anything.
They have no stress.
They just get to be fed by me all day.
tim pool
There are only stresses when you're out of town.
alex stein
Yeah, exactly right.
My animals are stressed right now because I'm gone.
hannah claire brimelow
But that's the thing.
You're the center of the earth.
They stress about you constantly.
alex stein
Yeah, I guess that is a good point.
ian crossland
You're Pitbull.
alex stein
Ginger.
ian crossland
Beautiful dog.
alex stein
She's great.
ian crossland
What an amazing co-host.
She's great.
She was on Alex's show when we did.
alex stein
Wonderful woman.
It's sad.
I look at my dog and I'm like, I'm kind of jealous of you.
You just get to live this great life.
But I mean, obviously I want to be a human, I don't want to be a dog, but it is kind of nice not having stress and responsibility.
tim pool
Think about it, like a dog can walk into the middle of a room full of people and everyone just says they love you and they're all giving you massages and he's like, life is good.
alex stein
That's what they say, a dog's life, right?
unidentified
Isn't that what they're saying?
tim pool
Alright, here we go.
Five Against Eight says, Tim, your Newsom prediction reminds me of angels and demons.
The Camerlengo plants the antimatter so he can swoop in and save everyone, swaying the Conclave to pick him as the new Pope.
Okay.
Not familiar with- I know Angels and Demons.
It was like, what was that?
Before Da Vinci Code or something?
alex alx lorusso
Yeah, I think so.
tim pool
Yeah, I remember the Da Vinci Code was a big deal.
alex stein
Yeah, with Tom Hanks?
ian crossland
Was it good?
alex stein
When it first came out?
The first one was pretty good.
tim pool
Alright, let's grab some more.
alex alx lorusso
What do we have?
tim pool
What is this?
Where are we at?
Cain Abel says, Tim Buchanan was not the second worst president, he was the third.
Truman was the second and Biden was the first.
ian crossland
Scandal with Truman!
What do you guys think about Harry Truman?
alex stein
I don't know.
ian crossland
He launched the atom bomb, obviously.
He's the one that ended World War II.
He had to make a calculated risk.
Are we going to send Americans into Japan on the mainland and have them just run up on machines?
hannah claire brimelow
Are you pro-Truman?
ian crossland
I'm pro-nuclear bomb on Japan in the end of the war.
You are?
Yeah, because probably hundreds of thousands of Americans would have died in that siege.
alex stein
But did you know, or they say this, that they had prior knowledge before Pearl Harbor that they were going to do that?
ian crossland
Oh, that was Roosevelt, but they may have.
I've heard that they knew the Japanese were coming, they didn't know where exactly, and also it's very convenient to be attacked if you want to send your country to war.
But I don't know.
alex stein
They needed it.
They needed public support.
Yeah, they had to have Pearl Harbor to propagate.
tim pool
There was a strong anti-war sentiment because they were like, dude, we're on the other side of the planet.
Why do we care?
Why are we gonna die for what's happening in Europe?
Again, World War I was bad enough.
alex stein
Okay, well, that's a good point.
So I would say most conservatives are against the war in Ukraine.
What would have to happen, in your opinion, Tim, to make the people on the right be gung-ho?
tim pool
Impossible.
Literally impossible.
Well, okay, not literally, but here's what I think right now.
Anything that happens will not be the fault of the war, but of Joe Biden, the Democrats, and the establishment.
And...
Based on how things are going, certainly something could happen where, like, Vladimir Putin kidnaps a busload of orphans and then goes on camera and goes, wah-ha-ha, and starts hurting children, but that's not reality.
Reality is there's a conflict over a region, and if it escalates to, say, like, nuclear artillery, the reaction in the United States will be against Biden, not Putin.
They're gonna be like, you exacerbated this, you sent the money, you guys were doing this, and this did not need to happen.
If the U.S.
did not get involved in Ukraine, Putin would have walked to the Donbass, and it would have been done.
I'm not saying that's all true, I'm saying they will claim that, they will blame the establishment, the Democrats, etc., for escalating the war and causing the escalation.
alex stein
See, I think people are so dumb.
If they did drop a nuclear weapon on Kiev, I think conservatives would be like, well, it is time to get in there and put a boot in their ass, Toby Keys style.
I hope you're right.
tim pool
The neocons would, but not the Trump people.
The Trump people would be like, if Trump was president, this never would have happened.
alex stein
I think there's some truth to that.
tim pool
And then even if, so if ICBMs go flying and cities be blowing up, like, okay, gloves are off,
I have no idea. But if Putin uses like a nuclear artillery, like these are smaller yield stuff,
100 kilotons and, you know, strategic targets, military targets, I think the reaction would be
Donald Trump's statement would be like, this war will end overnight with diplomacy the moment you
elect me.
And his approval rating will skyrocket and Joe Biden will go the pro-war route saying it's time for intervention and that will cause Biden to drop to 3% or something in the approval rating.
unidentified
Yep.
ian crossland
I, for a long time, I was like, just, we gotta cede eastern Donbass to the Russians.
They want that trade port in Sevastopol.
There's no stopping them short of, like, total annihilation.
Like, they just, we have Libya, we have Iraq, give them the trade port.
But now I'm like, well, if they take the trade port and they, they...
They fortify the Crimea, then what will Turkey do?
If Turkey leaves NATO and joins the Russians, then what do we do?
And it's like Hitler.
They gave Hitler a little bit.
What was his name?
Neville Chamberlain.
He gave him a little bit with the Sudetenland.
And then they're like, now that'll appease him.
And then he just wouldn't stop after that.
So I think people are afraid Putin won't stop after he gets the Don back.
tim pool
But I don't think Turkey's as concerned about it. I don't think so at all.
ian crossland
He's just gonna have to learn trade practices. The Russians and the Turks are gonna have to work together to get those
shipments.
Because there's gonna be massive amounts of trade coming out of the Black Sea by the Russians.
alex stein
So if Russia took over the world, what they got rid of, uh, the pride parade and stuff, do you think conservatives
would like it?
They'd probably be like, yeah, let's just welcome that.
tim pool
There are a lot of people on the right who are saying that Putin is fighting against the demons and the devils and
stuff like that.
It's not true, dude.
Putin is another interest who's trying to secure power.
To truly understand their motivations and know what they know is impossible.
But there's no good guys.
alex stein
Well, Brittany Griner, I went viral because I asked her if, you know, it was a fair trade.
But it's funny because she didn't stand for the national anthem yet.
In Russia, they don't even have a pride parade, yet she can come to America and celebrate.
You know, it's just funny not having any sort of love for your own country.
When you even go to a foreign country, you think she would come back and be like, this is the greatest place on earth.
I love America.
But instead she's like, alright, I will stand for the anthem.
And now she's taking a mental health break.
tim pool
Alright, let's read some more.
Michael Beacon says, please stop being conspiracy theorists.
The aliens are real and they just really want us to trust the government and forgive them for their crimes.
Like that one dude said, nothing suspicious at all.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
That was something funny.
Someone super chatted us and they said that the conspiracy theory is gonna be that aliens aren't real.
Because not the government said they're real.
There's gonna be people being like, no way, there's no aliens.
alex stein
That's me!
I've already said it!
tim pool
And they're gonna call you a conspiracy theorist!
alex stein
And they're right!
I mean, there's something weird.
I think it's more likely if there are some sort of Interdimensional beings, they're like demons from hell or from heaven or something.
I don't think it's necessarily a space alien from 10,000 light years away on a ship.
I just don't think that.
hannah claire brimelow
I just wonder why the 10,000 light year away aliens would want to come here.
alex stein
Yeah, exactly right.
tim pool
We'd go there.
unidentified
Yeah, maybe, but like... To research.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, sure, but would they want to come here?
Would they be interested enough?
tim pool
I mean, think about it this way.
You're an alien.
10 million light years away, you've discovered intergalactic travel, you can travel the speed of light, and then you find out you are not going to heaven?
You have the wrong beliefs?
alex stein
Wouldn't you want to seek out those who actually... You're talking about evangelical aliens right now.
No, no, I'm saying the aliens... Know about heaven, but they're not allowed to get in, so they're gonna come join the Church of Scientology.
tim pool
They come to Earth, and then what happens is they find all these people being like, the Son of God came to Earth, And then they're like, yo, we live on Ziggaborp and he never came to us.
Like, we're in trouble.
We better figure it out.
So now they're converting and they're bringing the religion back to their home planet.
But it's like a new version because, you know, Jesus didn't say he was going to send them to heaven.
Aliens aren't going to heaven, right?
hannah claire brimelow
They're not going to send missionaries to wherever?
tim pool
Aliens came to Earth because they want salvation.
ian crossland
I have a hard time with it, man.
I'm always trying to be respectful.
alex stein
We're like in L. Ron Hubbard zone right now.
tim pool
What are you saying about Scientology?
unidentified
I know, but that's L. Ron Hubbard of Stevens, that is space alien Zeno.
Do you believe that Jesus is the Son of God?
alex stein
I mean, yeah, I guess.
I was baptized, yeah.
tim pool
So what would an alien be thinking if he finds out that Earth is the only path to salvation?
alex stein
They're coming to Earth.
tim pool
They're coming here.
alex stein
They're going to Joel Olsheen's church.
That's right.
We love Joel Olsheen!
Thank you for sending all the aliens to heaven!
tim pool
Yeah, you gotta do it somehow.
Otherwise, what do you do?
alex stein
As long as they'll tithe, Joel Wilson will take their money.
tim pool
Let's grab some more.
We got... Yoshiaki Koga says, Ian, it was Korea, a Korean, who published the paper on the room temperature superconductor.
unidentified
Oh, it was?
ian crossland
Thank you.
tim pool
A Chinese researcher first to confirm some of the findings.
ian crossland
Got it.
Awesome.
tim pool
I don't know if I believe it though.
ian crossland
Yeah, I'm still- the jury's out, man.
Jeremy Riss is working diligently to reproduce it right now as we speak.
You can follow him on Twitter, alien scientist.
tim pool
Ray from Palm Bay says, my friend Kyle is getting married tomorrow.
Can you say something to Kyle and Emily?
alex stein
Don't do it!
hannah claire brimelow
No, definitely do it!
alex stein
Don't do it!
ian crossland
Marriage is a business proposal, and you can make a lot of money working together as a team, so do it.
alex stein
You can also lose a lot of money in a divorce, so get a prenup.
ian crossland
Prenups are a good idea.
I think they should be built into marriage anyway, with no false divorce.
tim pool
Get a supermarriage.
hannah claire brimelow
I feel like you guys are really missing the energy this guy was hoping for.
Oh, I know, but... I think it's creative!
ian crossland
Your love will stand the test of time.
The business contract's a secondary part of it.
alex stein
She's probably cheating on you, so I'd look at her.
tim pool
Mr. Bogus just jumped up on the table because he just wants to hang out with us.
alex alx lorusso
He's vibing.
tim pool
He's actually, and he's also standing by the ribeye carnivore snacks because he knows there's beef in there and he wants to eat it but he can't because he'll die.
ian crossland
Oh, he likes it.
hannah claire brimelow
Oh, bye.
alex stein
He's going to Alex.
hannah claire brimelow
He's obsessed with Alex.
alex stein
Yeah, he knows.
Don't eat this, it's too spicy.
hannah claire brimelow
He wants the ghost pepper one.
tim pool
He goes right for the ghost pepper one.
ian crossland
Look at it, he's trying to get it.
tim pool
He's trying to eat the ghost, the scorpion reaper pepper one.
alex stein
This is dangerous for your health.
ian crossland
Look at Bucko.
tim pool
Yeah, Alex said he was too scared to eat it.
Because it's beef.
ian crossland
He wants to rub his hand.
alex stein
No, because I'm a vegetarian, dude.
This goes against my Church of Scientology religion.
ian crossland
He really likes it when you scratch his jaw.
alex stein
Intelligent man.
tim pool
VideoMaster40K says, can you shout out my favorite artist, Divide Music?
He just released a new song today focused on Batman.
Very cool.
Congratulations.
alex stein
Am I the only person that likes it that Lizzo made all of her backup dancers eat bananas out of other people's vaginas?
ian crossland
I'm open to the... to liking it.
tim pool
That's not all.
unidentified
Didn't Tim make you eat a banana out of a woman's vagina?
ian crossland
Yeah.
unidentified
Tim's done a lot.
alex stein
This is part of Tim, guys.
tim pool
Inappropriate.
ian crossland
When the cameras go off, it gets crazy around here.
tim pool
No, actually, Ian's hazing ritual is he makes everyone perform Shakespeare in front of all the other employees.
ian crossland
Barefoot.
tim pool
Barefoot.
alex stein
He doth protest too much.
tim pool
Yeah, you gotta memorize the whole play.
It's like, well, I don't know, you know, Ian said.
ian crossland
And tomorrow, and tomorrow.
tim pool
Actually, he makes all the new employees watch him do handling.
alex stein
Ian, what about the Shakespeare conspiracy that he didn't even write?
ian crossland
I think that might be real.
alex stein
I know!
ian crossland
It was actually a wealthy businessman, or a duke or something, but he would have been, because they would talk shit about the Queen, that they would have been killed, or they was like, would have been bad for their career.
I mean, one of the theories is that it was a whole team of people, which Yeah, because it was like so much good art pumped out by apparently some random guy.
hannah claire brimelow
Maybe he was the Kanye West of our generation, right?
Isn't he known for producing a ton of art and like people are amazed by that?
ian crossland
People want to believe that he's a real guy because he's so inspirational to think a guy could do all that and act.
tim pool
They can, dude.
That's why we know their names.
ian crossland
Bill Shakespeare.
tim pool
You ever play Civilization?
alex stein
Well, I was just in London.
Look at this, look at this.
tim pool
He's trying to sleep on your head.
alex stein
But I thought that's so weird that Shakespeare supposedly rebuilt the Globe Theatre by slowly stealing parts from the original Globe Theatre.
Did you know that?
ian crossland
No.
The first one burned down.
alex stein
Yeah, but something happened and he would secretly take parts from that Globe to build the new Globe Theatre.
ian crossland
Interesting.
unidentified
I've never heard that before.
alex stein
This is like theater history.
unidentified
Rebuilt Globe Theater.
ian crossland
I tend to believe that he was a real guy.
I don't know why.
I studied a lot of Shakespeare.
tim pool
Maybe that's why.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I feel like I think because I studied it, I feel like he's one person.
ian crossland
But it would make so much sense if it was like the Disney, like a corporation of the time, was just churning shit out and used a guy's name.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, you know, I feel like he must have written the majority of himself.
I can't say that no one ever was like, oh, maybe you should change it.
Like, surely he had an editor, right?
Surely someone at some point read through and was like, I think it'd be funnier this way.
alex stein
If you told Chad G.B.T.
to write in Shakespearean language, will it write?
ian crossland
Yeah.
Iambic pentameter.
alex stein
Yeah.
Iambic pentameter.
ian crossland
I think it's like seven.
What is that seven?
I'll look it up.
tim pool
All right, we'll grab some more.
The one gamer- that one gamer says I heard Tim talking about the mob earlier today and I think he'd like talking to Michael Fran- Franzacy?
Franzese?
ian crossland
Ooh yeah, that guy's awesome.
tim pool
Former captain in the Colombo crime family and author of the book Mafia Democracy.
That'd be cool.
alex stein
He'd be good.
tim pool
I was basically saying, after seeing what's going on in, like, New York and stuff, especially today, maybe we need the mafia.
And what I mean is, I watched that clip from A Bronx Tale, where it's such a good scene in so many ways.
Have you guys seen the movie?
I've not seen the movie, I just saw the clip.
I need to watch the whole movie.
But basically what happens is, my boss is talking, and all of a sudden there's a commotion, they hear it.
He goes outside and he sees a bunch of bikes, motorcycles.
Goes into a bar and they're arguing, he's like, what's the problem?
And the bartender is like, you gotta stop, he's trying to eat it.
The bartender is like, these guys aren't dressed properly to be in this bar.
And then the biker leader guy looks at the mob boss and goes, look man, we just want to have one beer, we'll hang out, we'll drink, we'll be on our way.
And then he goes, spoken like a gentleman, serve them their beers.
And then the bartender gives the beers to the bikers who immediately shake them up and spray the bartender down while laughing.
Then the mob boss goes, okay, now you're being impolite, you need to leave.
And then the biker leader turns around and he goes, F you, we're not going anywhere.
So the mob boss walks over the door, closes it, locks it, walks back and goes, now you just can't leave.
And then the bikers look around like, huh?
And then the door busts open and a bunch of good old boys come in with baseball bats, start beating the crap out of the bikers.
And then they throw them out.
But the reason I say it's a good scene is, the mafia guy, these guys broke the rules.
They weren't dressed properly.
But they politely asked, and he obliged them.
He said, spoken like a gentleman.
Let them have their beers.
Like, hey, I'm an honorable guy.
You're a nice fellow.
I'm not going to hold it against you that you're not dressed right.
But then those guys disrespected him and attacked the bartender.
And then all he did was ask him to leave.
He didn't say, you sprayed the bartender.
How dare you?
He said, OK, guys, time to go.
And they still said, no way.
We're doing whatever we want.
And then he's like, OK.
So what would happen if people in these neighborhoods knew that there were guys of honor that would be polite to you and treat you well, so long as you treated other people well, but if you crossed the line, there would be a cultural enforcement, you wouldn't be seeing these robberies, you wouldn't be seeing these riots, these teen takeovers, because there would be someone to look up to and respect.
Granted, I'm not literally saying organized crime, because there's bad stuff they do, there's shootouts, I'm just saying- Drug dealing.
Yeah, the culture of like the guys in the neighborhood being like, look, we're going to be nice to you.
We're going to treat you with respect, even if you're not dressed right, as long as you're a good person.
But if you screw with us, we protect our neighborhood.
We don't have that anymore.
hannah claire brimelow
After my parents emigrated and they basically were living in New York in the 80s and they went to buy property and they were looking in Brooklyn because that's what they could afford.
And their realtor took them around and was like, yeah, yeah.
One of the good things about this neighborhood is it's controlled by the mob, so there's no crime.
alex stein
No, that's a real thing.
hannah claire brimelow
It's a real thing.
alex stein
But Cosa Nostra, the mafia, they have unwritten rules where you cannot kill a child, even if you're, you know, you hate this person, you want them dead.
So they have rules where they won't kill a child, yet we drop drone strikes on children all the time.
So you could argue that the mafia has more of a moral compass than the United States government.
ian crossland
Depends on the mafia, I guess.
Cosa Nostra is the name of that one?
alex stein
Cosa Nostra is the name for the mafia.
tim pool
Bogus is using Alex's baseball cap as a bed and it's not working very well.
ian crossland
He put all four of his feet on it before he laid down.
tim pool
That's all he did was he got all of his feet onto the asphalt.
ian crossland
The big downside with me with having, like, because I'm big on enforcement of law and it's really disturbing to watch crowds form and mobs and destroy and like, where's the National Guard?
Where are the police?
Where's the enforcement?
Where's the protection?
But, like, the mob doesn't have, like, a code of ethics.
I mean, maybe they do.
It's word of mouth.
alex stein
Like, if you insult the mob boss... I think it's written down because you do a ceremony when you get into the family.
ian crossland
I guess I should say they don't have a constitution and free speech written into it.
So if you talk crap about the mob boss, good luck.
alex stein
It's like in The Mob, you're not allowed to be gay.
Vito Spadafora and the Speranos, they find out he's gay and they kill him, but there's like exceptions.
If you go to prison, you can supposedly be gay if you're locked up.
unidentified
That makes sense.
ian crossland
That's understandable.
alex stein
So there are rules to their weird game that they play.
tim pool
All right, let's read some more.
We got RyanTheEatingWarrior says, Ukraine re-arrests blogger that was tortured before he could get into Hungary seeking asylum.
The US was 100% behind this.
alex stein
That's Coach Red Pill.
tim pool
And I heard they caught him.
I heard he was captured.
He was captured.
alex stein
I kind of like Coach Red Pill.
He's funny.
tim pool
I mean... So, there was a video that went out where they said, you may have heard about the man who was trying to flee.
alex stein
And that was a transgender Ukrainian military officer.
tim pool
Oh, was it?
alex stein
Yeah, that person was trans.
tim pool
I don't know.
Whatever.
I'm more concerned about Coach Redfield being captured again and tortured in a foreign military prison or whatever.
But I also wonder why it is he's like, I'm gonna go straight to the border.
alex stein
And he tweeted it!
He did a 25 tweet thread about it.
tim pool
Why wouldn't you just hand your phone to a friend and tell them to start doing normal things, then ride your bike through the woods?
ian crossland
Yeah, that crossed my mind too.
Why did he tweet it out?
alex stein
Yeah, I thought that was weird.
tim pool
He brought his phone with him?
Dude, they're tracking you, dude.
alex stein
Yeah, or just tweet after you cross the border.
I mean, why would you tell on yourself like that?
tim pool
I don't know.
Right, he told on himself and they tracked him down.
And these people are evil.
alex stein
And they can triangulate wherever we are with our cell phones.
tim pool
Yeah, I got a story from Venezuela.
I was in Venezuela and I got accused of being a spy because some Occupy Wall Street dude tweeted to a Venezuelan Glenn Beck, is what I call him, because it was a similar story.
He was a TV host and he did a web thing, but he was leftist.
And they said, hey, this guy's in your country doing this stuff.
So this guy went on his show and said, hey, find this guy, Tim Poole, look at what he does.
And they accused me of being a CIA agent.
unidentified
Oh wow.
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
I had to flee the country.
Like I'm at my hotel in Caracas and I get out of the shower and I look at my Twitter and it's like,
you have 12,000 mentions.
And I was like, what?
And then I hit like the open and all of a sudden it's like, we're gonna kill you, we're coming for you,
we'll find you.
alex stein
All because they thought you were a CIA plant.
tim pool
Oh yeah, yeah, it's Venezuela, dude.
And so I leave the country and I come back to the US and I thought it was really, really funny
because like I'm here in Brooklyn or at the time I was in Brooklyn.
And so I tweeted enjoying empanada or arepas in Caracas or whatever,
so that they would still think I was there.
alex stein
Because you're a troll.
tim pool
And then what happened is, the next day, I get a message from a friend of mine I hadn't spoken to in years, and he says, bro, the FBI just started asking me questions about you, what's going on?
And I'm like, what?
So I call him, he doesn't answer.
I call him, he doesn't answer.
I call him, he doesn't answer.
So I was like, okay, he's not answering.
Two or three hours later, he calls me back.
I answer, and he's like, yo, what's up?
And I was like, you messaged me?
What's going on?
The FBI?
And he goes, what?
And I'm like, you messaged me on Facebook?
What's going on?
The FBI called you?
And he goes...
What the fuck are you talking about?
And I was like, bro, you messaged me on Facebook.
He goes, dude, I haven't talked to you in like four years.
And then I'm like, bro.
So I took a picture of the message, sent it to him and he goes, dude, I did not message you on Facebook.
And I was like, oh shit.
So I hit up my hacker buddies and I'm like, yo, yo, some kind of attack, like an injection, like someone hacked his account.
And they said, they think it was API injection or something where Venezuelan government hackers Went to my Facebook account, saw who my friends were, chose someone, and then injected a message from him to me.
They wanted me to call him so that my phone would ping their tower and they could triangulate my position.
But I was in Brooklyn, so I was gone.
alex alx lorusso
That's nuts.
hannah claire brimelow
That is wild.
tim pool
Yeah, and then I printed out the message and then, like, when I was at Vice, I had a bunch of stuff on my wall.
I had, like, fragments of- of linen from the- from- from Ukraine that, like, shattered and then there were, like, little rocks on the ground and I took some.
They sold his hand.
They sold his head.
That was crazy.
And then I had this message from this fake, you know, I had a bunch of other stuff.
I still have a bunch of the stuff today.
I have, like, I have, um...
I have police tape from where that black supremacist executed those two cops in Brooklyn because that was my street.
And so, the next day, when they cleaned everything up, the police tape was still on all the light poles and just blowing in the wind because they ripped it.
So I walked up and ripped a piece off and I kept it.
I got a bunch of stuff like that from all the crazy stories I've covered.
alex stein
Crazy days.
Serial killers do the same thing, Tim.
They take a memento from the tragedy.
So maybe were you the real shooter?
Did you frame that man, Tim?
ian crossland
This is the best picture of Bucko.
He's fully... Oh, you heard his name.
alex stein
Mm-hmm.
What a beautiful cat.
tim pool
Alright everybody, if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to the channel, share the show with your friends, become a member at timcast.com to support our work directly, and buy our coffee at castbrew.com.
I'm not kidding, man.
I go back and forth between Rise with Roberto Jr.
and Appalachian Nights being the best.
Appalachian Nights is dark, so it's like earthy and chocolatey, and then Roberto Jr.
is bright and light, and they're just, it's so insanely good.
alex stein
Well, Tim, can I give you one piece of advice?
If you do want to have a successful beverage company, you have to do what Coca-Cola did, and you have to put cocaine in your first batch.
tim pool
We can't do that, but what if we made an Alex Stein blend?
And then we'll cut you a portion of the proceeds.
It'll be like your signature.
alex stein
The prime time blend.
It's the cocaine blend.
alex alx lorusso
Insane in the Ukraine.
tim pool
Insane in the Ukraine.
alex stein
Insane in the Ukraine blend.
Coach Red Pill is drinking it right now.
tim pool
You can follow the show at TimCastIRL.
You can follow me at TimCastALX.
You want to shout anything out?
alex alx lorusso
Yep.
x.com slash alx.
Follow me there.
tim pool
Right on.
Alex.
alex stein
Primetime with Alex Stein on YouTube.
Go give that a subscription if you guys are so kind.
unidentified
Thank you.
hannah claire brimelow
I'm Hanclair Brimlow.
I'm a writer for TimCast.com.
Follow at TimCastNews on Twitter and Instagram.
It's the best.
I just can't stand the x thing.
If you want to follow me on that website, I'm hcbrimlow and I'm on Instagram at hanclair.b.
Thank you guys so much.
ian crossland
Ian Crossland, follow me anywhere, guys.
I love Great Conversation at Night.
I could do these all the time.
More alien talk, more weird stuff.
alex stein
Friday night was fun.
tim pool
Fridays are good.
ian crossland
Rock and roll.
tim pool
We got Bocas sleeping on your head.
ian crossland
Mr. Bocas!
tim pool
I posted a picture on Instagram if you want to see it.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Instagram.com slash timcast.
You can look at the picture.
unidentified
You guys can follow me at kellenpdl.
I'm pushing the buttons over here.
And NFL is officially back as of yesterday, so go Steelers.
tim pool
That'll be fun.
Yeah, we did a Super Bowl party this year I'm looking for.
I love Super Bowl parties.
Do you gamble on sports at all times?
Not really.
Last year I gambled on the coin toss and the color of the Gatorade.
alex stein
Did you win any of them?
tim pool
Yeah, I did.
I won them.
I think I won them both.
Yeah, it was really good.
I can't remember what I bought.
I think about a hundred bucks on the coin toss.
And I was like, I don't even know what this means.
I don't even know what that tether was at.
And I walked up and was like, you won.
unidentified
I was like, alright, yeah!
ian crossland
Who do you guys think is going to win the Super Bowl this year?
Got any guesses?
alex stein
Football team.
I love the Dallas Cowboys.
I'm from Dallas, but not the Dallas Cowboys.
unidentified
It's too early.
alex stein
Yeah, they have no chance.
ian crossland
Probably Cleveland Browns.
tim pool
We'll see.
unidentified
We'll see.
tim pool
All right, everybody.
Thanks for hanging out.
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