Aug. 3, 2023 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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| Donald Trump appeared in court today in Washington, D.C. | ||
| He pleaded not guilty to the conspiracy charges. | ||
| He's been threatened with remand into custody, pretrial confinement. | ||
| If he communicates with any of the witnesses in the case, he agreed to these terms, and then he carried on his merry way. | ||
| And I will just say... | ||
| In the context of this story, the fact that they did not remand Trump into custody proves it is a political sham. | ||
| Because anybody who did anything... You know what? | ||
| Not even anything near. | ||
| If you stole a diamond necklace and you owned a bunch of jets, they'd be like, okay, this dude's a flight risk. | ||
| And you have buildings in foreign countries, you have properties all over the world, you own golf resorts, they'd be like, this guy's a flight risk. | ||
| They're accusing Donald Trump of trying to overthrow the U.S. | ||
| government. | ||
| An insurrection, a conspiracy to defraud the U.S., and they're like, you're free to go, good sir. | ||
| Just, you know, come back when we need you. | ||
| They don't seriously think this man did anything wrong. | ||
| It's political. | ||
| We also got a bunch of other news, my friends. | ||
| Ron DeSantis says that he is going to start, um... | ||
| I'm gonna save what he said for when we get later in the show, because it's probably too soon in the show to say exactly what Rhonda said to Zedd. | ||
| But let's just put it simply, he used a very graphic analogy, a metaphor, for firing intelligence agencies, intelligence agents. | ||
| So, yeah, he's very, very serious on that. | ||
| And then we got big news. | ||
| There's a leaked clip that came out from Tucker Carlson's show with the former chief of police of the Capitol Police, where he basically says it looks like January 6th was a cover-up Someone may have wanted this to happen, and he was the guy in charge, basically saying he was being obstructed. | ||
| So we're gonna talk about all of that. | ||
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| And joining us today, tonight, to talk about this and so much more is Liz Wheeler. | ||
| Hi, Tim. | ||
| Thanks for having me. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Who are you? | ||
| What do you do? | ||
| I'm Liz Wheeler. | ||
| I host The Liz Wheeler Show. | ||
| You can find it on Apple Podcasts, on Spotify, anywhere you find your podcasts. | ||
| I also have a new book coming out called Hide Your Children, exposing the Marxists behind the attack on America's kids. | ||
| You can find that at hideyourchildrenbook.com. | ||
| That's a good name. | ||
| Thanks. | ||
| You want to know where I got that name, actually, from that meme? | ||
| The video? | ||
| Yeah, the video. | ||
| Antoine Dodson, Hide Your Wife, Hide Your Kids. | ||
| Tell me he's writing your foreword. | ||
| No, I should have asked him, though. | ||
| Yeah, he's out there. | ||
| Isn't he, like, kind of right-leaning or something? | ||
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I don't know. | |
| You would think after that experience. | ||
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Right. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, there's another story. | ||
| A woman in Portland got mercilessly beaten by a homeless guy. | ||
| Now she's a Republican. | ||
| Surprise, surprise. | ||
| But thanks for hanging out. | ||
| Yeah, thanks for having me. | ||
| Hannah Clare is here. | ||
| Hi, I'm Hannah Clare Brimelow. | ||
| I'm back. | ||
| I'm a writer for TimCast.com. | ||
| You should follow them on all the social medias. | ||
| And Ian's here. | ||
| Well, hello everyone, Ian Crossland. | ||
| Happy to be here on this Thursday night. | ||
| Awesome night. | ||
| Liz, great to see you again. | ||
| Good to see you. | ||
| Looking forward to hearing about your book. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| What's up, Serge? | ||
| I love how on the bottom of your shot there, that carnivore thing, just says carnivore underneath the end. | ||
| It's sweet. | ||
| Carnivore snacks. | ||
| His life is changing, guys. | ||
| He's working out now. | ||
| We, uh, we went on Public Square, the app, and we bought a bunch of jerky. | ||
| So we got carnivore snacks and anthem jerky, and it is all just some of the best jerky I've ever had. | ||
| This is like beef and salt. | ||
| These are the ingredients. | ||
| It is like slimy with beef fat. | ||
| It is the greatest- You gotta- Like- Man. | ||
| That is good stuff. | ||
| The carnivore snacks, it is literally a piece of steak with fat on it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| I pulled one out last night during the after show and looked at it and was like, why is this beef jerky white? | ||
| And Brett was like, it's the fat. | ||
| It's the best part. | ||
| It's the most delicious part. | ||
| I was not expecting it. | ||
| It's intense. | ||
| Super good for you. | ||
| Yeah, anyways, let's get started. | ||
| All right, here's the story. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, today, Donald Trump arrived in Washington, D.C., pleaded not guilty. | ||
| Politico reports Trump pleads not guilty to charges that he conspired to overturn the 2020 election. | ||
| At the former president's arraignment, prosecutors and defense lawyers signaled immediate disagreement over how quickly he should stand trial. | ||
| So my understanding is, I think they have it in here somewhere, the next date will be August 28th. | ||
| Was that it? | ||
| Do they even... How far down do I gotta go for them to confirm it? | ||
| But I'm pretty sure. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| Chutkan's first hearing was set for August 28th. | ||
| Before then, prosecutors in Trump's defense team were ordered to submit briefs proposing a schedule for the trial. | ||
| Chutkan expects to set a trial date at the August 28th hearing. | ||
| Trump criticized Chutkan in a social media post a few hours before. | ||
| Calling her unfair. So apparently the reporting is that Jack Smith is trying to try this | ||
| Extremely quickly saying we need a speedy trial here probably because the primaries are coming up and | ||
| You know, there's another story we'll get into Rhonda Santa's debating Gavin Newsom | ||
| I kind of feel like that's what the deep state is hoping for | ||
| Gavin Newsom not Joe Biden and Rhonda Santa's not Donald Trump | ||
| I am not trying to imply that either of them are working for the deep state or the intelligence agencies. | ||
| I am saying that they don't want a failing Joe Biden because he can't win, and they despise Donald Trump, so they're trying to get whatever they can. | ||
| Thus, Jack Smith is like, let's get this speedy and rushed through. | ||
| But I'll add one thing before we all just jump into the conversation. | ||
| I think the fact that they did not remand Trump to custody proves it is not a legitimate criminal trial. | ||
| And people can make the argument, oh no, Trump's not a flight risk. | ||
| Nobody thinks he'll flee. | ||
| He's running for president. | ||
| It's like, okay, fair point. | ||
| But they're accusing him of trying to overthrow the government. | ||
| That's what they're saying on MSNBC. | ||
| This guy owns a 757, a Cessna Citation. | ||
| He owns two helicopters. | ||
| He probably has access to more jets than just those. | ||
| Not to mention, being a billionaire, he can easily charter a private jet. | ||
| If they legitimately thought Trump was a threat to democracy, And that he was trying to overthrow the government. | ||
| How could they not order him to be remanded? | ||
| It just makes me start to wonder, like, who are his secret service agents? | ||
| And where are their loyalties? | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Do they think that they'll just be like, no, no, we won't let you flee if you really wanted to. | ||
| I'm sure he could figure it out. | ||
| The entire case against Trump, and I made this argument the other night, was it's obviously intended to destroy the pattern and momentum of his campaign, right? | ||
| Jack Smith was happily investigating for years and then all of a sudden he's ready and we have to rush this prosecution. | ||
| Doesn't seem suspicious at all. | ||
| Oh wait, of course it's complete convenience. | ||
| Trump could go to his jumbo jet and say, we're going to do a rally. | ||
| We have a scheduled rally in Insert City, Milwaukee. | ||
| And then they all get on the plane. | ||
| And then as soon as the plane takes off, he goes to the pilot and says, we're going to El Salvador. | ||
| And then, you know, people could argue like, oh, there's no flight plan. | ||
| He could just do it. | ||
| They could just do it. | ||
| The problem is if he left, excuse me, he wouldn't be able to be president. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| That would burn the bridge. | ||
| And I know he doesn't want to burn that bridge. | ||
| That's sort of a considerable flight risk. | ||
| I don't buy it. | ||
| They're accusing Trump of some of the most serious crimes in the history of this country. | ||
| They're claiming that he attempted to steal. | ||
| They're claiming that he called for an insurrection to stage a coup on the Capitol to steal power. | ||
| That is seditious. | ||
| They're effectively arguing whether they didn't charge him with it or not. | ||
| Seditious conspiracy. | ||
| And then being like, ah, you're good. | ||
| Go on home, buddy. | ||
| I don't. | ||
| Here's what I think, though. | ||
| I think that we're missing one little point. | ||
| I agree with you that it's obviously not serious charges if they actually thought he was a threat. | ||
| They would have kept him in pretrial detention just like they did with so many of the January 6th defendants. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Which I thought was setting a legal precedent so that they could do this with Trump. | ||
| I still think they're going to. | ||
| I don't think that just because they let him walk out today that that means that they're not going to. | ||
| I think they obviously want to put Trump in prison because they despise Trump. | ||
| They think it'll destroy his presidential campaign. | ||
| But if you look at the crux of what this indictment from Jack Smith is, it's really against political speech. | ||
| It's a violation of your First Amendment right to have an opinion that is different than the opinion of the Joe Biden administration, which we can talk about the trickle-down Affects of that, but I think that they want to criminalize not just Trump's free speech, they want to criminalize us. | ||
| So how do they do that? | ||
| Well, they wait until this story's passed. | ||
| He tweets something they disagree with. | ||
| They say it's, you know, ruining this case. | ||
| They put him in pre-trial detention because they want some crazed Trump supporter to commit an act of violence so that they can say, well, it's not just a crime when Trump says this, it's a crime when all y'all say this, and we're going to crack down on you. | ||
| I think there could be a component to that. | ||
| I think part of the free speech angle or the criticism of political speech is that they never got a smoking gun. | ||
| There's really nothing there. | ||
| So now they're going to have to make a very obscure political argument. | ||
| I think if Trump, you're totally right, if he fled the country, he couldn't be president. | ||
| It obviously works. | ||
| I think part of it is sort of gambling with them. | ||
| They really want the perp walk. | ||
| They want an image of him in handcuffs. | ||
| They want that to be all you see for a long time. | ||
| And so, again, for me, all of this comes back to timing, right? | ||
| They could do it right now, but he's gaining. | ||
| Every time they indict him, he jumps in the polls. | ||
| So if they released a picture of him in handcuffs, who's to say this wouldn't actually bolster | ||
| his supporters? | ||
| It would help. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That's why they won't remand him. | ||
| That's my point. | ||
| If they genuinely thought Trump tried to overthrow this country and led an insurrection against | ||
| an official proceeding, they'd be like, lock him up and throw away the key. | ||
| There are people still in jail right now without charge or trial for having trespassed at the | ||
| And you mean to tell me that they're like, Trump, you are free to go, but we think you're the one who orchestrated all of it. | ||
| Nah, BS. | ||
| They don't believe it at all. | ||
| Think about the QAnon shaman, right? | ||
| Jacob Chansley. | ||
| We all saw that video when Tucker aired it after McCarthy gave him all the film from January 6th. | ||
| You can make an argument that he shouldn't have been in the Capitol. | ||
| Like, that's fine. | ||
| But obviously not violent, right? | ||
| He was just kind of meandering around in there. | ||
| And he was kept in pretrial detention and then in prison for how long? | ||
| Because he was considered to be... He was considered to be... It was the same charge that... One of the same charges that Trump is obstruction of an official government proceeding. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he... I mean, come on. | ||
| I mean, it's the same thing with, like, the Proud Boy conspiracy trial. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| I will say, because you brought it up, you know, we felt like the January 6th, you know, imprisonment was sort of a sense of precedent. | ||
| And it makes me wonder, is there a fear among left-leaning lawmakers and Democrats that eventually Republicans will go after maybe Hillary Clinton or someone else? | ||
| And then if they put Trump in jail right now, then they are setting the precedent that their leaders will have to go to jail at the same point during the trial. | ||
| Maybe this is a sign that they are actually scared. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| I don't think they have anything to worry about. | ||
| Democrats going to jail when Republicans are in power. | ||
| Unfortunately, I agree. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| Republicans are going to send strongly worded letters. | ||
| And then it's just the most pathetic, pathetic thing imaginable. | ||
| The the the the indictment against Donald Trump lays lays forth this this idea that you could indict someone for defrauding this country over elections. | ||
| So where are any of the Republican DAs anywhere in this country to indict Hillary Clinton? | ||
| Well, I mean, she's publicly stated over and over again that Trump was illegitimate, and she was doing it to try and, you know, steal power and all of these things. | ||
| She was accusing Trump of being a Russian during the election. | ||
| Oh, all right, all right. | ||
| You know, 2015, all of the stuff that they started pulling out against Donald Trump, accusing him of working with Russians and being a Russian ass and all that stuff, that was before Trump won. | ||
| What's the statute of limitations on that? | ||
| I can't imagine it's only a couple years. | ||
| It's got to be at least 10, right? | ||
| Felony? | ||
| Maybe there's no statute. | ||
| Where's any Republican to be like, okay, we're filing charges? | ||
| The jurisdiction touches everything. | ||
| It's legal to say that you think an election was fraudulent if you truly believe it. | ||
| Not according to the indictment. | ||
| But that's what the indictment's bringing up, though. | ||
| The indictment's basically saying that Trump's opinion, even though he genuinely believed No, no, no, no. | ||
| The indictment says that Trump stated things that he knew were false, and therefore it's illegal. | ||
| Right, I know, but like, it's pretty obvious to everyone that Trump believed what he was saying. | ||
| Sure, and let's make the same argument that Hillary Clinton knew she was lying, the same as they say about Trump, and go arrest her. | ||
| Republicans are pathetic Spineless, whiny losers. | ||
| The thing is, you can't prove if they knew it or not. | ||
| There's no way to prove that. | ||
| That's actually one of the biggest flaws, I think, besides the attack on the First Amendment. | ||
| That's one of the biggest legal flaws, is the bar for the intent in these different statutes is so high. | ||
| I mean, it's arguably unconstitutional, but it would be next to impossible to prove if you had unbiased jurors, which I suppose there's a huge caveat in this case because it's going to be in Washington, D.C., so... Not unless Trump gets it in West Virginia, which I would personally love. | ||
| There's no way that's going to happen, though. | ||
| It'd be the best thing of all time. | ||
| He for sure. | ||
| I mean, I don't know, but he really seems to believe like that election was fraudulent. | ||
| He's very straightforward about it. | ||
| He's been the entire time. | ||
| I don't understand why they would assume that he's lying. | ||
| It makes no sense. | ||
| They're not assuming he's lying. | ||
| They are lying. | ||
| They're purporting that he's lying, I suppose. | ||
| They know Trump really believes it, but they're lying. | ||
| And so the issue is... | ||
| Why is it that Vivek Ramaswamy is filing his lawsuits against the DOJ for information pertaining to the communications between Biden and Garland, as per this indictment? | ||
| Why is it Vivek? | ||
| He's not even a politician. | ||
| And he's more effective than, what, every Republican? | ||
| I'll give Matt Gaetz a pass. | ||
| He's doing a lot of really great stuff. | ||
| He's always on top of stuff. | ||
| But Vivek's just a candidate, and he's like, I'm gonna file a lawsuit. | ||
| Can we get a single member of Congress to do something? | ||
| No, they're too busy holding hearings so they can get viral Twitter clips, Tim. | ||
| Yeah, that's about right. | ||
| It's much more important. | ||
| That's it! | ||
| Do you spend much time over there at Congress? | ||
| Not if I can help it. | ||
| Check out this tweet from EndWokeness. | ||
| Trump now faces three indictments, 78 charges, 641 years in prison. | ||
| And we have this, uh, this is great. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Corruptly obstructing an official proceeding. | ||
| One count. | ||
| Conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding. | ||
| One count. | ||
| 32 counts of retention of national defense information. | ||
| 34 counts of falsifying business records. | ||
| And then you got scheme to conceal lying to the U.S. | ||
| government. | ||
| 641 years in prison is what they're trying to throw at this guy. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| So how do you think MSNBC is handling this? | ||
| They think it's reasonable. | ||
| not over sentencing. | ||
| Then he'd be as old as Biden when he got out. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| So how do you think MSNBC is handling this? | ||
| They think it's reasonable. | ||
| Take a look at this clip from MSNBC. | ||
| And I would appreciate it if you all would would listen. | ||
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One day our children's children will read American history. | |
| And can you imagine our reading that James Madison or Thomas Jefferson tried to overthrow the government so they could stay in power? | ||
| That's what we're looking at. | ||
| We're looking at American history. | ||
| Could you imagine if Thomas Jefferson tried to overthrow the government? | ||
| I am shocked! | ||
| Everyone knows Thomas Jefferson stood valiantly before the people of this great continent and said, God save the king, all hail the king, we love the crown, Britain forever. | ||
| That's exactly the story of the Founding Fathers. | ||
| But I just want to add, I love, first of all, how he's so... I'm sorry, man. | ||
| He's talking about the Founding Fathers quite literally overthrew the government. | ||
| And yeah, but more importantly, he's comparing Donald Trump to the Founding Fathers who overthrew a tyrant for the people and established this great nation. | ||
| They succeeded. | ||
| It's kind of a weird perspective. | ||
| It's like you're comparing Trump to the Founding Fathers right there. | ||
| It's kind of like, OK, well, that's like a weird thing to do because people like them. | ||
| And then being like to overthrow the government, I'm like, yeah, they succeeded at doing that. | ||
| So he's obviously in his defense, he's talking about if they'd invite, you know, 1811, Thomas Jefferson was still 1806 or whatever. | ||
| He was still refusing to let go of power and was like, we are going to be the new monarchy. | ||
| Um, and so he's referring to that. | ||
| That's what Napoleon did. | ||
| Absolutely not. | ||
| He's talking about what if Thomas Jefferson pulled a Napoleon. | ||
| Ian, you are fabricating context to defend someone for no reason. | ||
| If you think that Al Sharpton doesn't know that Thomas Jefferson was involved in the American Revolution, then you're lost. | ||
| is not an actual effective thought leader. | ||
| He is the equivalent of a political ambulance chaser, right? | ||
| He shows up to do a couple hits, to fundraise, and to make himself feel good. | ||
| He's not a reliable source for anything. | ||
| So the fact that this is who they're triaging with should tell you that he has no idea what he's talking about and they are grasping at straws. | ||
| And I'm not saying he did not know they were involved in a revolution. | ||
| I'm taking his statement as it is. | ||
| I'm establishing no alternative context like you are doing. | ||
| The man compared Donald Trump to founding fathers who overthrew the government, succeeded to remove a tyrant. | ||
| I mean, Thomas Jefferson literally wrote the document that said, this is why we are overthrowing you. | ||
| This is why we're justified. | ||
| This is why we have no other recourse. | ||
| We are now in charge. | ||
| We're severing the political bonds. | ||
| The Declaration of Independence was them literally saying, you have no authority anymore, we're in charge now. | ||
| Well, I'm steelmanning his argument for now. | ||
| It's funny, we can laugh at the guy and be like, dumb idiot, you didn't know. | ||
| But like, obviously he's talking about if Thomas Jefferson had overthrown the American government. | ||
| That makes no sense. | ||
| There's no context in what he said to assume he's talking about 1811 or anything after that. | ||
| Why would you think he's talking about King George? | ||
| That Thomas Jefferson didn't overthrow King George? | ||
| Because I think when you invoke the founding fathers, the obvious example is, yes, they overthrew a government. | ||
| They overthrew the British government. | ||
| But they didn't overthrow our government. | ||
| Sure, it was our government at the time. | ||
| Before they overthrew it, it was our government. | ||
| Not to mention the critical race theory argument is that the Founding Fathers were wealthy white slave owners who didn't want to pay taxes, so in order to maintain their status and power overthrew the government. | ||
| Like, the point is, it is a stupid thing to say. | ||
| I agree with that. | ||
| But I stand by it. | ||
| And it's out of context. | ||
| Al Sharpton can't expect anything better. | ||
| What's funny is MSNBC, did they even, did they push back on this at all? | ||
| Or were they just like, oh... No, they're like, Reverend Al Sharpton, thank you for blessing us with your presence here today. | ||
| We're so grateful you could show up. | ||
| I just want to rephrase it. | ||
| Can you imagine, like, let me get my crystal ball. | ||
| Yes, I can imagine. | ||
| It would be first a declaration, and then a revolution, and then a free country, the greatest the world has ever known. | ||
| I can actually imagine. | ||
| To be fair, it was a revolution, then a declaration. | ||
| And the French Revolution went haywire. | ||
| They started a revolution. | ||
| It looked pretty good. | ||
| And then they wouldn't let go of the power. | ||
| Robespierre went insane. | ||
| Completely egomaniacal. | ||
| And then they started killing each other. | ||
| And then Napoleon seized it. | ||
| But you know why that is? | ||
| To be fair, Robespierre was always insane. | ||
| In the beginning, he was really lovable. | ||
| He was like a brilliant orator. | ||
| He was a lawyer. | ||
| Everyone liked him. | ||
| He was the most level-headed of all of them. | ||
| Yeah, I learned an important lesson from Occupy Wall Street because I knew some of these far leftists and, you know, they fought for free speech in 2011. | ||
| And then when it came to the free speech arguments in 2018 and 19, I asked these guys, like this one guy I knew, I was like, how could you be for free speech back then? | ||
| And all of a sudden your opinion changed. | ||
| And he laughed and said, because you're too stupid. | ||
| You didn't realize we were using you. | ||
| We hate liberals. | ||
| When you defended our speech, it empowered us. | ||
| And now we want to take yours away from you because we want power. | ||
| And I was like, oh, it makes sense. | ||
| Also, you know what we were talking about just before we went on air? | ||
| We were talking about libertarianism versus a more ordered liberty, like a recognition of moral order. | ||
| That's the biggest difference between the French Revolution and the American Revolution. | ||
| The American Revolution was based, and I know this is really historically nerdy, was based on this idea that there was some fundamental objective truth that we didn't just determine as populism, right? | ||
| And the French Revolution chose libertarianism instead, so we ordered our constitution on Original justice, which is like Judeo-Christian values in the French Revolution, didn't. | ||
| They ordered it as freedom as the ultimate end, whereas we viewed freedom as the means to something greater. | ||
| And I think that one of the big differences, a catalyst, and one of the principal catalysts for the French Revolution was economics. | ||
| People were starving, there was famine, and so you had all these French people being like, don't know, don't care, I'm angry. | ||
| And that just led to beheadings and other chaos. | ||
| Whereas in the United States, it was consistent oppressive actions by the crown, and things like no representation in government, and the founding fathers and many of the state leaders would repeatedly petition the crown for things that made more sense on our behalf, and they would just say no, screw off over and over again. | ||
| So the revolutionary period was actually about 20 years long, and the Declaration of Independence was way later on in that whole period. | ||
| That's an interesting point about the secularism of the French Revolution. | ||
| It's interesting, I hadn't really thought much about it, but that the American Revolution was like, I don't know if it's a Christian revolution, they put God in a lot of their writings. | ||
| Then the French Revolution was all about like, do away with the old God, create a new religion, create a new calendar, you know, we don't want to adhere to these old traditions. | ||
| I saw an interesting video where some conservative dude was doing one of those gotcha videos of stupid people in Times Square and he asked, what year did America gain its independence? | ||
| And I thought that question was really, really funny because even he did not know the answer. | ||
| Cause what, what year was it? | ||
| Anybody have a guess? | ||
| 81, 1781. | ||
| Are you talking about technically? | ||
| Because, I mean, if you want to be real philosophical about this, you could argue that in some ways where it's a continuous battle that's ongoing forever. | ||
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2023 be a... Yeah, I mean, that's kind of like a lame answer, but... I actually don't know the year. | |
| Are you talking about, like, when the Constitution, when the Revolution ended? | ||
| I would have guessed 1776. | ||
| The surrender of Cornwallis. | ||
| Was that 81? | ||
| Did they fight all the way to 81? | ||
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| At Yorktown. | ||
| So that was... | ||
| No, wait, that's the wrong one. | ||
| Uh, 1781. | ||
| So they announced it in 76? | ||
| So, you could make the argument that we had our independence in 1776, but I disagree. | ||
| Uh, declaring it didn't change the fact the crown asserted their right and started shooting at Americans to and actually controlled a bunch of cities and | ||
| occupied places. | ||
| So we did not have it. It wasn't until Cornwallis surrendered that we actually gained it. | ||
| So 1781, but I think it's funny because they're like, what year was it? | ||
| It's supposed to be 1776. And it's like, no, actually, that's when, you know, they started sending in the troops. | ||
| Right. Granted, they were already sending in the troops, to be fair. | ||
| And that's kind of a catalyst for it. But yeah, you know, I think. | ||
| I think what happened right after is what's interesting, because we didn't have the Constitution for a while after, right? | ||
| Instead, we had the Articles of Confederation, and that was structured on more of a libertarian basis, and it resulted in chaos, and they realized that we couldn't order a society along those lines, so we had to use the Constitution to reorder it along James Madison's viewpoints. | ||
| Which were more ordered liberty. | ||
| And I think there is something you said for the question of, you know, people think it's 1776 because they think when you declared that you were independent you had independence because you have awoken to this concept. | ||
| Right, you claimed it in a sense. | ||
| You claimed it, you're aware that you want these things, but I think it is important to underscore that you actually had to fight for it. | ||
| And to your point, you have to keep this going, right? | ||
| You can cede ground at any point and lose liberty. | ||
| A republic if you can keep it? | ||
| To be fair, I was even wrong about that. | ||
| The American Revolution officially ended September 3rd, 1783 with the signing of the Treaty of Paris. | ||
| Cornwallis surrendered in 81. | ||
| Cornwallis's surrender in 81 ended any chance of the British actually being able to win a war. | ||
| And so from that point on, there was still conflict and occupation, but then the treaty was signed in 1783. | ||
| That's crazy, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, the American Revolution took place over 20 some odd years. | ||
| You could have been born a couple years after the start of this period and then fought in the war. | ||
| You know, like your whole life was hearing about all this revolutionary stuff. | ||
| I mean, that's true of anyone who deployed to Afghanistan, right? | ||
| I knew people who were in... Born after 9-11. | ||
| Some people were born after 9-11 and ended up serving in Afghanistan. | ||
| So these things happen. | ||
| Yeah, that's trippy. | ||
| It is trippy, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That makes me so mad, the Afghanistan stuff. | ||
| Because I have been thinking a lot about the draft. | ||
| We talked about the draft a few days ago and how people were talking about it and it's like the military numbers aren't doing very well. | ||
| Because they sent us into that occupying war in the Middle East, in Afghanistan, and then Iraq, and Libya. | ||
| We conquered Iraq, and then we conquered Libya. | ||
| And people are getting pissed off that Russia wants to conquer a trade port right on its border? | ||
| Like, are you fucking kidding me? | ||
| We took Libya. | ||
| We're in control of Libya right now. | ||
| We own Libya. | ||
| It's the grossest shit. | ||
| And I mean, we need to inspire our military. | ||
| That's what bothers me is that there's demoralization in the military. | ||
| I don't think we own Libya. | ||
| I think we destroyed it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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And now there's a slave trade. | |
| Did we set up Sidney Blumenthal's Osprey Global Solutions there? | ||
| Libya for a while has been ruled by like random warring tribes since the fall of Gaddafi. | ||
| Yeah, it's basically an American puppet state at the moment. | ||
| My problem wasn't that we went into Afghanistan. | ||
| I think that was perfectly morally justified after we had been attacked on 9-11. | ||
| My problem was how they handled it. | ||
| Like, you go into a war, you have terms of engagement that allow our fighting men and women to win, and you actually have a plan for victory, and you have an objective that is victory. | ||
| Like, you get in, you do your thing, you get out. | ||
| Like, don't drag it on forever. | ||
| There was no reason to go into Afghanistan. | ||
| If the argument is that we should have gone to Afghanistan because some of the 9-11 hijackers were Afghani, it's like, what about Egypt? | ||
| Well, the Taliban? | ||
| Yeah, but what about Egypt or Pakistan or Saudi Arabia? | ||
| I mean, Saudi Arabia got sued, I think, over 9-11. | ||
| I'm not going to get into the whole history of that because there's too many gaps in my knowledge, but it wasn't like it was just the Taliban that did it. | ||
| Osama bin Laden was hiding in Pakistan. | ||
| There was funding coming from various sources in various Middle Eastern countries. | ||
| Some of the hijackers were Egyptian. | ||
| We didn't go and invade those countries. | ||
| I don't disagree with that. | ||
| I think that the Taliban was giving safe passage to Osama bin Laden. | ||
| So you can go back and make that argument. | ||
| I'm not, especially against Saudi Arabia, I think that they were certainly not held accountable because they were a territorial ally, if you will. | ||
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I think part of the problem- Fifteen were citizens of Saudi Arabia! | |
| Two were from the Emirates, one was from Egypt, and one was from Lebanon. | ||
| Most of them were from Saudi Arabia, and we're just like, nah, that's cool, Saudi's like, we're alright with you. | ||
| I think part of the problem is that war, that we pretended wasn't a war, but obviously was a war, never ended, right? | ||
| I can tell you people born after it deployed to Afghanistan, but then the Biden administration said, we want to pull out on September 11th to have some symbolic win for our administration. | ||
| We all saw how that went. | ||
| Like, there is something fundamentally wrong. | ||
| And I think to your point, you know, I have family members and I know people who are part of the military and there is an energy of discouragement, but also I don't think our culture knows totally how to handle our military, right? | ||
| I mean, I think a lot of us are anti-war and I think that's probably good. | ||
| On the other hand, where do you put in people who go into military service for honorable reasons? | ||
| How do you reconcile both things at once? | ||
| I'd like to build solar-powered water condensation all over the planet. | ||
| Like, if we could have peacekeeping missions with our troops and our military and actually reinvigorate... I feel like peacekeeping missions is, like, naturally something else. | ||
| We call it peacekeeping, but it's actually not that. | ||
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Right. | |
| That's what they call it in Vietnam, you know? | ||
| This is cool. | ||
| Advisors. | ||
| What they do is they build these... There's a bunch of different ways you can do it, but they have these big, white... | ||
| Plastic or something, you know, carbon structures that are flat up top and then slowly, as they get lower, become rounded and funneled. | ||
| And what happens is the condensation sticks to it and the water pours down and it fills up fresh water by the morning. | ||
| You can actually have them go underground. | ||
| So the air goes in, goes down underground and cools way down underground. | ||
| And then you have like solar panels that are like heating panels or cooling panels underground that are connected to the solar up top. | ||
| So it super cools the gas underground. | ||
| That's cool stuff. | ||
| The reason I like to elaborate on the idea is because there are really awesome stuff we could be doing, but instead we just seem to be blowing people up all over the world. | ||
| That's what our money's good for. | ||
| Or gender studies in Pakistan. | ||
| LK99, that's room temperature superconductor. | ||
| Did you guys hear about that? | ||
| It's gonna change the entire computing industry. | ||
| The computing industry, bro, you have no idea. | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| I'm standing on the precipice. | ||
| I love science, I have to say. | ||
| I feel like I come on this show and you guys teach me so much. | ||
| Most superconductors, where you can pass a lot of electricity through without losing it, they need to be really cold. | ||
| But these can be done at near room temperature, apparently. | ||
| Proposed ambient pressure. | ||
| And they're being reproduced. | ||
| Superconductors, zero resistance transfer of electricity. | ||
| We lose energy as it's transferred around. | ||
| There's heat loss, there's a bunch of loss. | ||
| With a superconductor, you don't have that. | ||
| There's a lot of things you can do. | ||
| They do superconductor levitation. | ||
| They'd be able to do like maglev trains on the cheap. | ||
| It would completely change computing. | ||
| It would completely change batteries. | ||
| It would... | ||
| What people are claiming is that it will make the world like a sci-fi reality. | ||
| Like this is a major breakthrough on par with the discovery of the charged electromagnetic spectrum. | ||
| And because such, nobody believes it. | ||
| And they're waiting for replication because room temperature superconductors is going to like, yeah, it's going to be like sci-fi. | ||
| I've heard that they're replicating it now. | ||
| And this with like deep fakes and with obviously the internet, all these weird technologies of like, I'm really going to be able to imagine something and then see it like, With the neural net? | ||
| In your lifetime. | ||
| I think that's the craziest thing. | ||
| These revolutions in technology, the evolutions of technology, I should say, are happening faster than ever before. | ||
| So my thought is that we're going to evolve into another species. | ||
| But what do you think, Liz? | ||
| Would you get a brain chip? | ||
| No. | ||
| Not right away. | ||
| Never. | ||
| Elon said that he would get one. | ||
| Well, I hope he has a great time. | ||
| No, thank you. | ||
| If most people will get it. | ||
| If I see, like, hundreds of thousands of young people in high school getting it and just, like, blowing test scores out of the water, learning a bunch of languages, becoming really good at athletics, I would consider it. | ||
| But I would rather have something non-invasive, like a helmet or something. | ||
| Like, so you like the augmented reality glasses? | ||
| Do you know anybody who doesn't have a cell phone? | ||
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| How many people do you know don't have cell phones? | ||
| Like five, because I know people who live off the grid. | ||
| I don't know anybody that doesn't have a cell phone. | ||
| I'm after like, older than high school. | ||
| Are cell phones CIA tracking devices? | ||
| Oh, certainly. | ||
| All your information is tracked by any intelligence agency around the world who wants it. | ||
| Conservatives know full well the deep state is tracking literally everything they do, every website they go to, every picture they look at, every naughty thing they do on the internet, and they don't care, and they would then say, well I'm not getting the brain chip, and it's like, oh please dude, ten years, you'll all be chipped. | ||
| Here's where I think it's different. | ||
| Because when Apple, what's Apple's thing that's coming out that augmented reality goggles that he just announced a couple months ago? | ||
| There was an engineer that worked on that who did a thread on Twitter right after it was announced. | ||
| Who said, I worked on part of this as it was going. | ||
| I don't work there anymore. | ||
| A lot of it's under NDA. | ||
| And he was bragging. | ||
| He was proud of having worked on it. | ||
| He was talking about how what they wanted to teach it to do was anticipate what you want so that it could offer you things as you're going. | ||
| And I thought, well, that doesn't sound cool to me. | ||
| That sounds like the ability to manipulate. | ||
| Because if you get used to them anticipating, then they could plant ideas that could control your movements. | ||
| I think that's very different than a cell phone, because it's not integrated into your consciousness. | ||
| I have my cell phone in my hand all the time, obviously. | ||
| We're all obsessed with it. | ||
| But it's not part of my decision-making process, because it hasn't been, like, it hasn't been merged with my consciousness. Like, that's | ||
| really free. | ||
| Also, you could discipline yourself to go without your cell phone. | ||
| The one fair point I'll make is there's a difference between holding something in your hand | ||
| and having a surgery, right? Molly Bo don't want to do surgery. But cell phones changed everything. | ||
| Before we had the iPhone, if you wanted to go on the internet, it was, you'd go out and hang out with your friends, then be like, when you get home, I'll see what's happening online. | ||
| Then you'd go out and hang out with your friends, then come home. | ||
| Once the iPhone came out and people had, this was like the expansion, the explosion into 24-7 web, now you're on Facebook non-stop all day, every day. | ||
| A dramatic difference. | ||
| Yeah, I don't disagree with that. | ||
| So our consciousness has merged with the internet at this point. | ||
| Your phone is always with you. | ||
| And now look, I'm wearing this smartwatch that vibrates when someone tweets at me. | ||
| I think the weird thing is... It doesn't actually do that because I block that, but like I get text messages. | ||
| Your watch is just like constantly going off. | ||
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| No, I think part of it is you'll start to see a separation of societies, right? | ||
| Like you asked me who I know who doesn't have cell phones and like They are all off-the-grid mountain people who chose to live that way and know they're going without some modern conveniences for that reason. | ||
| I think, I mean like you're a young parent, there will be parents who opt to give their kid an Instagram profile and an iPad really early on and then there will be parents who say, I'm gonna hold out for as long as I possibly can. | ||
| I think you will see a clear difference in these things and maybe we'll have data to say like, Hey, these people are benefiting. | ||
| Here's what's happening because again, technology is moving so quickly. | ||
| We're able to track things better than ever before. | ||
| On the other hand, I think culturally we'll just split apart. | ||
| I think we'll have like the mountain people and the tech people. | ||
| You mentioned before the show like shared morality, how it's such an important part of a cohesive government. | ||
| For instance, the United States government had like a shared kind of almost an authoritarian morality to it. | ||
| So I see this technology and this augmented reality brain-chip lifestyle as like a fast track to a shared morality. | ||
| They can tell us what we think, or they can make us believe a certain thing, and it could be good, it could be bad. | ||
| But like, do you think that it's even possible to get humans to come together and begin to share a new morality without using this mind-meld tech, this internet? | ||
| I mean, first of all, I didn't say the word authoritarian when it came to me. | ||
| That was me. | ||
| That was you. | ||
| That was you. | ||
| Disavows. | ||
| I wouldn't I just don't think it's an accurate word to describe what I'm talking about. | ||
| So I think that cell phones have connected us in a way like I'm grateful for my cell phone. | ||
| I also see the problems that it has wrought. | ||
| I actually think the point that Tim was making is a good argument for my point. | ||
| TikTok has changed the minds, and I don't mean changed the ideological minds. | ||
| It has changed the brains of Gen Z, and not in a good way. | ||
| This should be an argument for pushing further away from augmented reality, because already, just with disattached phones, we've wrecked a generation with that. | ||
| I think, Ian, your point, is a point that I make a lot, that indoctrination is not inherently immoral. | ||
| It's what's being indoctrinated that determines whether it's good or bad, right? | ||
| Like, our education system right now indoctrinates children in, like, anti-American, anti-Christian, pro-Marxist values, and that's wrong, but it's not because this school is being used for indoctrination. | ||
| Indoctrination is morally neutral. | ||
| We actually Should be using the education system for indoctrination. | ||
| We should just be indoctrinating children in what's good and right and true. | ||
| We should be indoctrinating them in American civic values and in Christian virtues. | ||
| Even if they're not practicing religious people, our nation is built, like, our entire legal structure is built on Judeo-Christian values, right? | ||
| You can't murder someone. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because that person's made in the image and likeness of God. | ||
| Like, that's the only thing that sets us apart from animals. | ||
| So I think we should be using venues that we have for indoctrination. | ||
| We just have to be smarter than the left. | ||
| And when's the last time that you can point to a conservative, a Republican politician, an institution that's actually controlled by the right? | ||
| The right stopped fighting for those, like, 50 years ago. | ||
| So it's just controlled by the left. | ||
| So yeah, they're forming the minds and the ideologies of all these young people. | ||
| It's terrible. | ||
| But it is changing. | ||
| With Bud Light, for instance, the news that just came out, they lost $400 million or whatever. | ||
| There's a big cultural shift, Sound of Freedom, obviously. | ||
| We'll get into that, but I do want to jump to this story because we've got big, pressing news. | ||
| This is a clip that was released by the National Pulse. | ||
| It is a leaked clip from Tucker Carlson's show where the Capitol Police Chief said that it could be, January 6th may have been a cover-up. | ||
| Let me play this clip for you. | ||
| I'll just give you guys a warning. | ||
| It's a little choppy for some reason. | ||
| But, uh, nonetheless, it's very important, so let me play this. | ||
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Rational and not give a number statement, obviously, but the facts that you're describing are shocking. | |
| I've had a lot of people ask me, why did you write this book? | ||
| I try to do what I can to get the truth out. | ||
| They didn't want me to testify on February 23rd at the Senate hearing. | ||
| I actually had to go and talk to a friend of mine on one of the oversight committees and say, I will come there in person. | ||
| I want to be there. | ||
| I want to testify. | ||
| So I'm glad you think I'm reserved. | ||
| I'm, you know, to be honest with you, I'm a little pissed off. | ||
| Because if people were reporting the intelligence correctly, if I was allowed to do my job as the chief, I got a significant experience. | ||
| If I was allowed to do my job as the chief, we wouldn't be here today. | ||
| This didn't happen. | ||
| Then see how you're out there, you're land-based and in public, and it's all, you know, everything appears to be a cover-up. | ||
| Like I said, I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but when you look at the information intelligence that it had, the military had, it's all watered down. | ||
| I'm not getting intelligence. | ||
| I'm denied support of the National Guard in advance. | ||
| I'm denied National Guard while we're under attack for 71 minutes. | ||
| You're in a fight. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| A fight for a couple minutes wears you out. | ||
| One minute. | ||
| I was going to say, 60 seconds, three minutes. | ||
| Let me tell you, it wears you out. | ||
| My officers were fighting for 80 minutes before the protesters ever approached me with that. | ||
| Wait, can I say, so you describe this as a failure to get the intelligence to the people who needed it, but it sounds like, worse than, it sounds like they were hiding the intelligence. | ||
| And that's what I'm getting at. | ||
| Could there possibly be people that actually did something to happen and kind of wanted something to happen? | ||
| It's not a far stretch to begin with. | ||
| I don't know what the other explanation is. | ||
| You know, it's sad when you start putting everything together and thinking about the way this played out. | ||
| It gets people concerned. | ||
| What was their end goal? | ||
| You look at what's happening. | ||
| Was that their end goal? | ||
| Well, I mean, there's no question that what happened on January 6th has really helped the Democratic Party. | ||
| It's bravely politicized the U.S. | ||
| military. | ||
| And the intelligence agencies and the FBI. | ||
| And those are all, I think, bad for America and violations of the Constitution, but they're all good for the Democratic Party. | ||
| That's a fact. | ||
| So it's a very choppy clip, unfortunately, but you can make out most of what matters. | ||
| And this is the former police chief of the Capitol Police saying someone could have wanted this to happen. | ||
| It may have been a cover-up. | ||
| And then you look at what's going on now with the Trump indictments, and I think any reasonable person who's been watching everything that's going down would agree the simple solution is they wanted January 6th to happen, to weaponize it, because they needed some way to stop Donald Trump, because they know they can't win an election. | ||
| Here we are. | ||
| I mean, I'm not a conspiracy theorist. | ||
| I'm not. | ||
| I usually believe that there's an explanation. | ||
| But if you look at the facts of the case, what happened on January 6th, and compare that to what the charges against the January 6th defendants were, and then contrast that with the due process violations that these people faced, and then the political capital the Democrats have gained for all this, I mean, It almost seems like he's stating the obvious. | ||
| We're just desensitized to this because we've been dealing with it for two and a half years now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, you know, that's the point I was making the other day. | ||
| People will ask, like, how did a country get so bad? | ||
| You know, insert country, the Soviet Union, Nazi Germany. | ||
| Like, how did it get so bad? | ||
| Took years, took a decade, took longer. | ||
| So when something happens like Donald Trump gets indicted, here's what I think. | ||
| I think they indicted him on the tax stuff first because they know what they're doing. | ||
| If they came out and indicted Trump on January 6th outright, it would be a shock to the system that would be bad for them. | ||
| It would snap people to attention. | ||
| So they do an indictment, not that big a deal. | ||
| It's like a tax thing. | ||
| Oh, who cares, right? | ||
| Then they do a classified documents thing. | ||
| Okay, well that's a little bit bigger, wow, it's federal, but then ultimately it's like, yeah, okay, whatever. | ||
| Now they do the January 6th thing. | ||
| They're still not remanding Trump into custody. | ||
| The sheriff in Fulton County said that Trump will be perp walked, and he will get his mug shot, he will receive no special treatment. | ||
| It's possible that the real remand to custody will take place in Georgia. | ||
| But they do it all in increments, so that you are desensitized to it every step of the way. | ||
| I bet they want Trump to flee, because that's another January 6th type thing. | ||
| You get him to do it, and then you can blame him and make him look like the bad guy again. | ||
| Look, he's still breaking the law. | ||
| Yeah, but imprisoning, whether they're good people or bad people throughout history, we have tons of stories of people who were imprisoned, got out, and then took over. | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| And you technically could be the president from jail. | ||
| From exile. | ||
| Let me read you this timeline and tell me if this is a coincidence. | ||
| On March 16th, the oversight committee in the House of Representatives revealed the Biden family payments that we all know are criminally corrupt. | ||
| The day after that, on March 17th, Hunter Biden admitted that the laptop that we all knew was his was in fact his. | ||
| The day after that, President Trump announced that the Manhattan D.A. | ||
| would indict him, which they did. | ||
| Then on June 8th, The FBI, um, the FBI, an FBI document alleged that Biden and Hunter, you know, were involved in that bribery scam for five million dollars. | ||
| The next day, Trump was indicted on the classified documents. | ||
| On July 26th, the Hunter plea deal, the one where he was supposed to get immunity to any other charges ever in the history of his life, that collapses. | ||
| The day after Trump was indicted, July 31st, Devin Archer testifies before the House again, and then the next day, Trump was indicted again. | ||
| Is that a coincidence? | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| But the big, the smoking gun is the third indictment, which was additional charges in the classified document case, because they had already indicted him. | ||
| Then the Hunter Biden plea deal thing happens. | ||
| Then they're like, oh, we're indicting Trump again for the same thing. | ||
| It's like, OK, they really need another indictment to cover this one up. | ||
| I just don't understand why there's no- Aliens, too! | ||
| Right, anything to distract from it. | ||
| You know, I want to know why DC Mayor Meryl Bowser has never had to explain why she said, yes, we'll take National Guard, but only if they don't have any weapons, right? | ||
| Like, there were so many things that led up to this that seemed strange to me, that Nancy Pelosi never asked for additional security at the Capitol. | ||
| Why are they not as accountable for what happened as, theoretically, Trump or anyone else? | ||
| Why are only certain people being asked to account for the decisions they made on that day? | ||
| That put people in danger, right? | ||
| If you had asked for proper security, Nancy Pelosi or Merrill Bowser, then there would have been something else. | ||
| The fact that you didn't seem suspicious to me, the fact that no one is asking you to explain it, seems worse. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| I think they're counting on the fact, so think about in 2020, this doesn't have anything to do with January 6th for a second, think about in 2020 when parents were watching over their children's shoulders on Zoom school and like they were seeing critical race theory, like if your child's white they're racist, if your child's black they're oppressed, they were seeing the transgender ideology and Parents were really shocked by that, because a lot of parents thought, oh, that's happening in California, that's happening in New York, but that's not happening, like, in our neighborhood, in our elementary school, in my child's classroom. | ||
| And they saw that it was, and it was this huge mental shift that you just saw sweep the country. | ||
| All these parents that thought they were untouchable because they weren't in this radical leftist hotbed, and then they realized that it was real. | ||
| I think we're at that point with January 6th, that for a long time, people have been afraid of being labeled as a conspiracy theorist, and because of that, we've forgotten that sometimes there are conspiracies. | ||
| Sometimes- like, what is a conspiracy? | ||
| It's just a concerted criminal act, right? | ||
| That there are people in power who are trying to do bad things, trying to violate our rights. | ||
| And I think people collectively are starting to realize that January 6th is one of those things. | ||
| That it wasn't just, oh, the radical right-wingers who are claiming that it was a false flag or something like that. | ||
| They're like, wait a second. | ||
| This actually does seem like it could be as bad as some of us have been saying the whole time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And we're seeing a really big shift in people's minds. | ||
| I think one of the first times she was on this show, Marjorie Taylor Greene pointed out that basically everyone who's arrested during the 2020 summer riots was let go and they never faced any charges. | ||
| Like, we are singularly focused on this one thing and there has to be a reason for that, right? | ||
| And I think, you know, we saw it in the clip. | ||
| Someone gains from when they obsess about January 6th and they try to turn it into something, right? | ||
| There is political momentum. | ||
| And I think Tim talked about it the other night. | ||
| If Trump had treated the May attack at the church in D.C. | ||
| a little bit differently, perhaps the narrative would have been slightly differently. | ||
| I think that's one of the things we have to credit left-wing activists with is that they really know when to obsess and make loud something that they are going to make the lead story for the rest of the year. | ||
| In this case, it's January 6th. | ||
| Someone did bring up an interesting point, uh, JustPeachy in the Super Chat saying Tucker did not use microphones like that on his show. | ||
| And I just looked up quick set images and sure enough, yeah, Tucker never used, uh, microphones like this. | ||
| I don't know what that means. | ||
| Perhaps the video could have been faked or something like that, but, uh, I have no evidence that's the case. | ||
| This would be a particularly difficult video to deepfake because it's extensive, but considering how much time it's been, it's been January since this book came out, it's entirely possible someone made an elaborate deepfake. | ||
| Can someone clip the original interview when it was released and compare? | ||
| And then slowly change it. | ||
| It could be why the audio is so choppy or whatever. | ||
| Do you think they were trying to record it locally so that it wasn't leaked? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I think the simple solution is just that this one time Tucker used these microphones. | ||
| But I have no idea. | ||
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Don't know. | |
| I just looked up Tucker Carlson today and the images of everyone he's had on, every single image, none of them have that. | ||
| None of them have those mics. | ||
| So I'm like, when did he ever use those? | ||
| He didn't seem to have. | ||
| Unless it was a different show. | ||
| Unless it was meant for an audio release and they just happened to have filmed it. | ||
| Credit to his detail-oriented fans for being like, those aren't the mics! | ||
| I feel like we should subtly change things in this room and see if people notice. | ||
| This J6, man, it makes me think, like, if I was in Nazi Germany in 1933 or 1934, what would I be doing to speak out against the Nazi Party rise to power? | ||
| Would you be speaking out? | ||
| And how would I be doing it? | ||
| Because they didn't have... citizens couldn't really grab a microphone and go on the internet. | ||
| They didn't have that kind of power. | ||
| Now we do, but at the same time... | ||
| People can be drowned out. | ||
| Everybody has the microphone, so everyone is yelling over each other. | ||
| It is faster, but back then, the means of you speaking out would be to make flyers and posters, or to print a zine, or to write something and then share it. | ||
| So you've got to stand out. | ||
| With you saying how people are all talking over each other, I guess that's, for me, why I'm deciding to get into shape. | ||
| Because if I can make a really good movie that people want to watch, then at least I'll be standing out, and people will be looking at my microphone a little bit more than others. | ||
| Well, you gotta go where the money is, right? | ||
| So you gotta go hang out in Malibu, and then hopefully you bump into, you know, say, Robert Downey Jr., and then he's like, I liked your style, and then he puts you in a movie, and now you're famous. | ||
| Now you're famous. | ||
| And then you come out and start talking about how the war in Vietnam is bad, and then one day on your way to the hotel, some guy jumps out and shoots you. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Thanks for laying that path in front of me. | ||
| It's funny you know what your options are. | ||
| I know, like, do I rail against the military powers of Earth until I die, or do I just try and make a great life with an awesome family and go live on an island somewhere? | ||
| I feel like there's both, right? | ||
| Like, in this position you can talk out, speak about the things that you believe and ask questions, but I think change happens at home, and so there's a value in saying, like, No matter what culture tells me I'm going to live myself- live my life, you know, jointly hopefully with a partner. | ||
| We're- In a way that I feel like is honorable. | ||
| We're here for one reason. | ||
| Everything that's happening right now is because of one thing. | ||
| The Founding Fathers are the people who said, we are a moral and just people, and we demand, right, we have these rights, they're inalienable, and we must fight for what is right for us and our families, at great personal risk, sacrificing their blood and treasure, and even in some cases their families, putting their families at risk, so that they could fight for what was best for the entirety of this nation. | ||
| And then the mentality changed at some point. | ||
| Now the advice you're given is just keep your head down and make money. | ||
| Ignore all of this. | ||
| And where we are now is the average person today says, I will not risk myself, my life, my sacred blood and treasure, or my family. | ||
| They were founding fathers whose children were kidnapped, whose families were kidnapped to use as leverage for prisoner exchanges, whose homes were seized by the British, by the Crown, cities that were entirely occupied and they were forced to flee, and today you have people saying, Well, I can't do that because I have a family, and I can't put my family at risk. | ||
| It's like, okay, well, you're the opposite of the Founding Fathers. | ||
| And perhaps, I know, easy for me to say, I don't have kids. | ||
| But I'll just make sure you understand that, like, the Founding Fathers were like, even if it means my family is kidnapped, even if it means I die, even if it means I have nothing left to my name, I stand for what must be. | ||
| And today, It's inverted. | ||
| Today it's, I'm going to lock my door, hide, and hope that it passes over. | ||
| And it's, people are doing well, even the poor people are doing well because of fascism, because we've bought off half the world, the slave trade of half the world, mining these rare earth minerals and stuff for us. | ||
| That's China. | ||
| Yeah, and in like, the Congo, like, I don't know. | ||
| Cobalt mines. | ||
| Jeez, it's disgusting. | ||
| So, truly, fascism is dangerous in that it's peaceful, or it can be very peaceful, and people have been sedated by this. | ||
| But I think it's really simple. | ||
| The current way of life that we have, you know, you can work for an hour, you know, if you're like the average American salary, you work a couple hours and you're gonna go have a hibachi dinner with your family, life is easy. | ||
| So nobody wants to risk it. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Let me go back to what Ian said before, though, when you ask, like, what am I supposed to do? | ||
| Am I supposed to have a microphone and have the loudest voice? | ||
| Am I supposed to hide away with my family? | ||
| Like, how am I supposed to fight back against this? | ||
| Because we are living in a unique point of history. | ||
| Like, no, we're not in Nazi Germany. | ||
| Like, you can't replicate anything exactly in history, but we're at a dangerous point in our country, right, where if what happens to Trump, if he's criminalized for free speech, I mean, you and I, all of us sitting here, have to wonder, okay, we've Question the same things about the 2020 election. | ||
| Are we next? | ||
| What's the limiting principle on that? | ||
| We all could be on the line at the whim of a government. | ||
| And I think this is one of the things that the Republican Party has lost sight of. | ||
| This is one of my biggest critiques with the Republican Party, is that there is a just use of government, right? | ||
| We often conflate the idea of a limited government with essentially no government. | ||
| And that's not what limited government means. | ||
| Limited government means a government with enumerated powers that is accountable to the people, that is run by the people. | ||
| It means that it's not a dictator that has unlimited authority. | ||
| It doesn't mean that there's no just use of the government, and we as Republicans have forgotten that. | ||
| We've demonized anything to do with government. | ||
| Oh, we don't want government involved in that. | ||
| We don't want to use government for this. | ||
| We'd rather use family and free market and all of that, which is fine, but we also have to use the government to fight back against these things. | ||
| We are not Just by ordering our families properly going to be able to abolish the administrative state. | ||
| We're not just by sitting here behind microphones going to be able to recapture our education system. | ||
| There are things we have to use the government for the just power of the government for to recapture if we want to. | ||
| If we want to stop what the left is doing to our society and if we want to reclaim our society, which is supposed to be how the founders envisioned it, right? | ||
| So you and I should, I mean, even if we are, I know I'm more right-wing than you are, but we should Be holding our politicians accountable for that, because everything can't be done on an individual basis. | ||
| I know this is what conservatives have told us for the past 50 years, that everything's just about, like, us and our families. | ||
| And yeah, that's important, but it's also using the government. | ||
| And if we did that, we'd be a lot more successful. | ||
| I'd like to break up a lot of corporations, especially the tech corporations. | ||
| They're just too monopolistic. | ||
| Google, Alphabet, I love you guys. | ||
| Thanks for letting us stream right now, but come on, the corporation's way too big, too | ||
| dangerous. | ||
| Google, you got to break them up. | ||
| Meta, you got to break them up. | ||
| X, you're cool, you can stay. | ||
| But what they did with Rockefeller was they went into Standard Oil and broke it up into | ||
| like eight oil companies that Rockefeller still had a piece of, so he became even more | ||
| wealthy and influential after the breakup. | ||
| So we have to, knowing that, we can't break up Alphabet the same way. | ||
| That's why I advocate for freeing their software code because it's kind of like you reduce | ||
| their power, you create an opportunity for the market to compete if the code is available | ||
| and whoever has the best means of like terms of service, their organizations will win out. | ||
| But I think we need government for that because otherwise people would resort to sabotage | ||
| and I don't want to do that. | ||
| Not enough. | ||
| I want to jump to this story here. | ||
| We have this clip from the Joe Rogan experience. | ||
| Jack Posobiec says breaking. | ||
| Joe Rogan says there was real fraud in the Kerry Lake election. | ||
| The context beyond this is a story from the Daily Mail that finds 69% of Republicans believe that Biden, his win was illegitimate and that there was widespread fraud. | ||
| But let's play this clip first. | ||
| We got Patrick Bette David. | ||
| He rocks. | ||
| And Joe Rogan, also very great. | ||
| How much election fraud do you think is real? | ||
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Here we go, Joe. | |
| You want to go to election fraud. | ||
| Yeah, because I don't think it's zero. | ||
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No. | |
| It's not zero. | ||
| I think we could all agree it's not zero. | ||
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No way it's not zero. | |
| And we know that these voting machines can be fucked with. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And we know that there's some irregularities, all that Carrie Lake stuff in Arizona that they're trying to dismiss. | ||
| It doesn't look like that's invalid. | ||
| It looks like there's real fraud there. | ||
| It looks like there's some real shenanigans there. | ||
| At the very least, there was voting machines that weren't working properly, and it seems very suspicious that a lot of them were in Republican areas. | ||
| There's a lot of shenanigans. | ||
| And I think there's coordinated efforts to make sure that certain people get elected. | ||
| I don't know how far they go, but I know it's not zero. | ||
| He's right. | ||
| It is not zero. | ||
| Even Bill Barr said it wasn't zero. | ||
| And that's the big question. | ||
| 69% of Republicans think there was widespread fraud and Biden did not win. | ||
| So there was a tweet. | ||
| It was Robbie Starbuck put out a poll saying, do you think we're in a civil war? | ||
| And of course, you all know how I voted in that poll. | ||
| But the overwhelming majority of people said yes. | ||
| There were four choices. | ||
| One was no, we're not. | ||
| And then one was not yet, but soon. | ||
| And that was the second most voted position. | ||
| So here's the way I'll frame it. | ||
| And I guess I've said this before. | ||
| It all depends on where we go next. | ||
| If Donald Trump is cleared of all charges, SCOTUS says these charges are politicking and weaponizing the Justice Department. | ||
| Trump ends up winning. | ||
| Trump fires a handful of people. | ||
| There are some reforms. | ||
| It's a little tumultuous, but mostly we move past it. | ||
| No one will ever talk about this as a civil war or revolution or a conflict. | ||
| They'll just say, you know, there was a rough patch. | ||
| If it does escalate beyond where we are now, Not just today, but probably January 6, probably 2016 will be considered the second Civil War period. | ||
| So 50, 100 years from now, if whatever is happening now does break out in a hot conflict or totalitarianism or something, they'll write. | ||
| The conflict all started in 2015 when the Clinton campaign falsely accused her chief rival of being a spy working for the Russian government. | ||
| And that kicked off a chain of events which resulted in impeachments, street battles. | ||
| I think for sure it'll go back to September 11th in the Patriot Act. | ||
| If it gets to, like, this is the time of history where the United States ended, it will be remembered that that stupid bill that let you throw people in jail with no cause, that's where it all began. | ||
| They won't say that. | ||
| That's reductive. | ||
| They better say it. | ||
| When we look at the Civil War period, you could bring up Bleeding Kansas, but nobody considers that the Civil War. | ||
| They consider it, like, a component of pre-Civil War. | ||
| And then if you go back a couple decades to, like, What was it, I think the 1850s, the Catching Slaves Act or whatever, was a big catalyst because the bill was basically, if slaves escaped the South to the North, the North would have to return them. | ||
| Yeah, the Fugitive Slave Act. | ||
| Fugitive Slave Act. | ||
| And the North said, you got it, the bill was passed, and the North said, yeah, right, we're not doing that. | ||
| So the South was basically saying, If the federal government passes laws the North will not adhere to, what is the point of a federal government? | ||
| It does nothing. | ||
| We don't go back and say it all started here with the Fugitive Slave Act. | ||
| No, we say it was a component and people will consider 9-11 as a component, but the Civil War period I believe likely It theoretically has a bunch of components that lead into with like Occupy Wall Street, the Great Recession. | ||
| Afghanistan and Iraq. | ||
| I mean, demoralizing, destabilizing for the United States. | ||
| It bankrupted our country. | ||
| But the shift was 2015. | ||
| I wouldn't define a civil war unless there was... unless there was... | ||
| When I say violence, I guess I don't mean just Black Lives Matter violence or Antifa violence. | ||
| I would call it, like, if there's conflict violence, like a hot war. | ||
| I would describe what we're in right now as a cultural revolution, which can be a precursor to a hot war. | ||
| It can be a precursor to a civil war. | ||
| I voted in that poll, too, and I voted not yet but soon, kind of like TBD dot dot dot. | ||
| Cultural revolution just means one side's not fighting back. | ||
| That's exactly what's happening, yeah. | ||
| I mean, because, you know, whenever people say, we're not in a civil war because there's no hot conflict yet, I'll just say Aaron Danielson was shot twice in the chest by a guy with a Marxist tattoo, with a BLM tattoo on his neck. | ||
| Yeah, you're just not paying attention to it. | ||
| There's been a ton of violence. | ||
| The BLM riots was a major component of whatever this cultural civil war or cultural revolution is. | ||
| And yeah, perhaps it is just a revolution, a communist revolution. | ||
| I like that cultural revolution. | ||
| That's what I think is happening. | ||
| It's the same thing that Mao did in the 50s. | ||
| It's the same thing. | ||
| The whole dividing people into the left and the right is what Mao did to create a cultural revolution so that then you can pull the tail on one of the dogs and they start chasing each other and you're the crazy monkey that gets to watch. | ||
| This is what the first half of my book is about. | ||
| When we see all these crazy things, like, we just describe it as like, oh, our culture's in chaos, or we're watching critical race theory and trans ideology being indoctrinated into our kids, and I'm like, okay, why is this all happening at the same time? | ||
| I mean, I know that Republicans don't fight back, so maybe they just thought it was an easy in, but this seems like a concerted effort. | ||
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How did we get here? | |
| Yeah, how did we get here? | ||
| And it turns out, as I looked into this, the answer to that is less of a why and more of a who. | ||
| As I researched it, I found the people and the organizations behind each of the attacks on all these cultural institutions, and they are invariably Marxists. | ||
| I mean, even the Black Lives Matter movement that you just mentioned, I mean, this is the obvious one, people are familiar with this, but the founders of the Black Lives Matter movement are openly Marxists. | ||
| They brag about being trained Marxists. | ||
| You see all these books, I mean, I see you have genderqueer sitting here on the table. | ||
| I mean, the president of the American Library Association is a self-avowed Marxist. | ||
| These people are actual communists, actual Marxists, and they are using the destabilization of our cultural institutions, the civil institutions, to get us to economic destabilization so that they can topple our government. | ||
| That is the definition of a cultural revolution. | ||
| People are just like, whoa, communists, Marxists, like, it's just Republican versus Democrat, and if you actually peel back the layers and look at who's behind this, it's not a coincidence, it's not chaos, it's actual Marxism. | ||
| Why do you think they embraced Marxism? | ||
| I think that they are ideological Marxists. | ||
| I think Marxism is, we think of it economically when we think of Karl Marx and the Communist Manifesto. | ||
| We think of the working class overthrowing the ruling class, and I think that that didn't really work. | ||
| It didn't, they didn't, it never caught on to become the global revolution that they wanted, so it sort of died out. | ||
| But then Antonio Gramsci, he was this Italian Marxist, Founder of the Italian Communist Party, or co-founder, said, well, listen, if you observe the cultural revolutions that were successful, or these Marxist revolutions, they started culturally. | ||
| First, you overtake the civil institutions that the working class rely on to destabilize society, and then they're willing to actually revolt against the ruling class. | ||
| Like, the root of all of this is, economically, they're anti-capitalist, and then many, I mean, Many, if you analyze the Marxist or the Communist ideology, there's a spiritual aspect of it, too. | ||
| I mean, the United States is being targeted because we are fundamentally a Christian nation built on Christian morals, built on Judeo-Christian morals, and Marxists can't stand that. | ||
| Can you explain the difference between Communism and Marxism? | ||
| Yeah, it's essentially the same thing. | ||
| It's just a specific version of it. | ||
| So communism is this false idea that there can be collective ownership of everything, that there's no private property, there's no one person in charge. | ||
| It's just everybody owns everything. | ||
| Marxism is the tool to achieve that. | ||
| So Marxism pits One class against another. | ||
| One saying that, you know, the working class is oppressed, they are oppressed by the ruling class, and in order to achieve communism, Marxism is the revolutionary tactic. | ||
| That's why it's important, I think, to differentiate between communism and the Marxists that are behind the cultural revolution here, because they are trying to destabilize our society using that tactic to achieve communism. | ||
| So there could be other tactics to achieve communism than Marxism, including perhaps economic technocracy. | ||
| Something where we're all the same in a machine, yeah. | ||
| Technocracy is. | ||
| So that's actually really interesting. | ||
| I have a whole chapter in my book about technocracy because technocracy is ruled by the experts, right? | ||
| Like, you can't question Fauci because Fauci is the technocrat. | ||
| The root of technocracy can be traced all the way back to French socialists and Russian Marxists who were part of the Bolshevik Revolution. | ||
| There was a Russian Marxist who actually described technocracy as a stepping stone from capitalism to communism. | ||
| Because this was always the problem for communists and Marxists, right? | ||
| People aren't just going to wake up one day and be like, oh, cool, we live in a free society. | ||
| Yes, I'd love to have communism. | ||
| There has to be some frog in a pot of boiling water moment in a culture where people are slowly introduced, you know, incrementally into communism. | ||
| Technocracy is the stepping stone for that. | ||
| That's why we see it with the administrative state. | ||
| We see it with Fauci. | ||
| We see it with, like, once you have kids, you see this all the time in, like, the pediatrician industry. | ||
| You as a parent aren't allowed to question anything, anything, from breastfeeding to co-sleeping to vaccines. | ||
| You have to defer to the experts. | ||
| It's everywhere. | ||
| And it's conditioning people not to question, not to dissent, just to obey, which is the communist way. | ||
| Are there historically examples of nations or people going towards that communist route and then stopping and saying, hell no, realizing what's happening and turning around? | ||
| Civil wars break out. | ||
| Has it ever been a peaceful regurgitation? | ||
| I think it's probably hard to cite examples because it wouldn't be documented as a significant moment if it just reversed itself and never really went that way. | ||
| It's a good question, though, because it's kind of a chilling question if you think about it. | ||
| If we can't sit here and name a cultural revolution that headed or that was trying to transform a free society to a communist society, it means that often it wasn't stopped. | ||
| It either wasn't significant enough or it wasn't stopped, because the examples that I can think of are examples that took a relatively free or relatively religious society and turned it into oppression, tyranny, and death. | ||
| There's the inverse. | ||
| There's Spain. | ||
| The communists and the republicans or the nationalists were fighting, and then it was the right that won that one. | ||
| And same in Germany. | ||
| The Nazis destroyed the communists. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| The Nazis, I mean, one of the principal components of their propaganda was to fight communism. | ||
| Yeah, the Bolsheviks. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| I believe there's a way to do it peacefully with this technology. | ||
| But I mean, it's owned by the technocrats. | ||
| So I don't know how that works. | ||
| I'd like to say what I think online, guys. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| That goes back to what I was saying before about like the augmented reality. | ||
| That's why I I don't consider myself a cynic, I do consider myself a skeptic, because I don't trust these people. | ||
| I don't trust the, like, AI, people always talk about AI being this, like, sentient being, this, like, this thing that can take over and think for itself, and I'm like, no, somebody is behind writing the algorithms of all of those things, and that somebody is someone whose ideology is very different than ours, who wants to use that, to influence the way that we or our children or whoever think so that they can convince those people to act in certain ways that benefit their political ideology. | ||
| You guys know Yuval Noah Harari? | ||
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| He's with the World Economic Forum. | ||
| Yeah, such a creep. | ||
| He does seem like that at first, and I want to give him the benefit of the doubt. | ||
| He's just on Lex Friedman's podcast. | ||
| Lex has hit him out of the park. | ||
| He just had Benjamin Netanyahu on. | ||
| Now he has Yuval on the show. | ||
| Good. | ||
| You know he's bridging the gap. | ||
| He's willing to speak to people that might be the most outside, if you're not in the system, the most terrifying force on earth is this World Economic Forum trying to put people in pods and chip their brains and read their thoughts, pre-crime, stuff like that. | ||
| But Yuval was talking about intelligence and consciousness and how they're not really the same necessarily. | ||
| We're building machines that are intelligent, but do they have consciousness? | ||
| They don't seem to. | ||
| The question is, how do you prove consciousness? | ||
| Yeah, he didn't have an answer for that either. | ||
| It's such a... This is a great Star Trek episode where Data the Android is effectively on trial because they're trying to determine whether or not he is a sentient being with rights or a washing machine. | ||
| And so, as we're getting closer and closer to simulated consciousness, where we know we fabricated it, but we can't determine... Like, I'll put it this way, with Chad Deep, GPT, and where we're headed with these video games, Already you've got this mod on Skyrim where you can talk to a video game character and it will talk back using chat GPT. | ||
| We're a few years away from... I guess you can say passing the Turing Test is something long since passed. | ||
| What we're getting to is you will be presented with... | ||
| two, two, two, a microphone and two speakers and you'll be asked to ask a question | ||
| and then you tell us which one you think is real and which one you think is fake. | ||
| Already there's a game called, I think it's called Bot or Not or something like that, | ||
| where you, what happens is you get placed in a random chat It's a black screen with green text. | ||
| And then it'll say, you start. | ||
| You'll say something. | ||
| The other person will say something back. | ||
| Then after like 30 seconds, it will say, was it a human or was it an AI? | ||
| You have to guess. | ||
| Some people will pretend to be AI and try and make it seem so you guessed wrong. | ||
| We're gonna get to the point where they're gonna ask you, talk to this person, and talk to this person. | ||
| One of them is an AI. | ||
| Can you figure out which one? | ||
| And people are not gonna be able to do it. | ||
| What they'll probably have to do is more than just two, because then you get a 50-50 thing. | ||
| They'll have to do like 10, and they'll have one AI in there, and then they'll see what percentage people can accurately guess which one's the AI. | ||
| But once we get to that point where people cannot, and I think we're really close to that already, Then there's going to be a question of what is sentience at all? | ||
| Because if you walk up to a person on the street and you say, are you alive? | ||
| They say, of course. | ||
| Like, do you think? | ||
| Of course I do. | ||
| Do you believe in God? | ||
| Yes, absolutely. | ||
| What are these questions for? | ||
| This is ridiculous. | ||
| Who are you? | ||
| Why are you asking these questions? | ||
| What if we then did the same thing, but it was... | ||
| An AI robot. | ||
| You walk up on the street, it looks just like a human because we've synthesized them. | ||
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| Answers all the questions perfectly. | ||
| How do you then determine who is real and who is not? | ||
| If an AI doesn't know it's an AI and it thinks it's alive and real, you've got to give it rights. | ||
| I mean, you've got to treat it. | ||
| But the AI will be networked. | ||
| This whole conversation reminds me... It's one AI, not a... When you see that individual and you ask, are you alive? | ||
| It says, yes. | ||
| You're actually looking at a gigantic mass, not a single person. | ||
| Just looking at a computer. | ||
| This is why I always have to bring it back to religion. | ||
| I know that so many Republicans and conservatives and red-pilled people don't want to marry religion and politics, and I get that, but we can't answer these existential questions if you don't have some baseline foundational beliefs about reality. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Like, sentience is determined by if you're a human being, if you're made in the image and likeness of God. | ||
| Again, it doesn't mean you have to worship God, but if you can't answer that baseline question, then you're gonna mistake a machine for a real person and try to get a machine rights. | ||
| Like, really, do you think a robot should have rights? | ||
| Like, no, nobody thinks that. | ||
| There was a case I covered a little bit last year, it was in May of 22, where this It's called the Non-Human Rights Project. | ||
| They sued to have this elephant named Happy freed from the zoo that she lives in. | ||
| They said it's a one-acre prison. | ||
| And Happy, unlike other elephants, has passed a self-awareness test because they put an X on Happy's forehead. | ||
| So legally the elephant is regarded as a thing, right? | ||
| It doesn't have rights because it's not a human. | ||
| It obviously deserves to be well cared for and whatever else, but it's not entitled to rights the same as humans are. | ||
| So they said it passed the self-awareness test because there was a white X on its forehead and it used its trunk to touch it when looking in the mirror. | ||
| So therefore it's aware of itself. | ||
| And therefore, you know, it's entitled to rights over where it lives and things like that. | ||
| And I found this really interesting because obviously, I mean, you're a Catholic, we could maybe make you talk about it, but sometimes people will write in and when James is here, he has to define the differences between different types of souls, right? | ||
| This idea that something is aware of itself, that it has intelligence, that it's able to react to something, is that the same thing as consciousness? | ||
| Is that the same thing as what humans experience? | ||
| And whenever we talk about it in terms of AI and robots, I think of this conversation in terms of Happy the Elephant. | ||
| AI bots will get human rights and will be regarded identically to any other biologically born human for one simple reason. | ||
| We cannot share experiences. | ||
| Therefore, the default legal position would have to be to protect the innocent. | ||
| And if you can't determine whether or not someone is an artificial intelligence or an actual person, then they both must be treated as though they're real people who are deserving of rights. | ||
| Which means there will be online bots that will be protected legally in terms of the First Amendment. | ||
| There will be If we ever get to the point of human-like androids that are indistinguishable from humans, you will not be able to violate the Fourth Amendment rights of someone by scanning their bodies or something to see if they are or aren't. | ||
| I could imagine giving them personhood. | ||
| I don't know about human rights. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Like, they're not human. | ||
| It's not about saying robots deserve human rights. | ||
| It's about saying, I cannot Accuse someone of being a robot and then use a scanner on them because that violates their privacy. | ||
| If they're coming into a private establishment, yes, but not in public. | ||
| So you will have AI androids walking around. | ||
| Do you want to live in a society like that or do you think that we should push back against that as a society? | ||
| I don't want to live in a society like that, but I don't think there's any way around it. | ||
| It's impossible. | ||
| It's like Blade Runner. | ||
| The idea of sentience and consciousness is really... they're terms that have been used to replace the human person. | ||
| We don't want to think of the human person as what the human person is, right? | ||
| We're constantly dehumanizing people. | ||
| We're either treating each other as objects, we're thinking of ourselves as just the top | ||
| of the food chain. | ||
| We're not thinking, oh, the human person is different from animals because the human person | ||
| is an embodied soul. | ||
| We are both organic creatures and also spiritual beings. | ||
| And if we allow science, who I assume is the ones coining sentience and consciousness, to redefine what makes us a person versus the spiritual reality of what makes us a person, then we are going to descend into that kind of chaos. | ||
| It's inevitable, but we shouldn't allow that to happen. | ||
| I mean, I reject the idea of sentience and consciousness as a barometer or a standard for giving someone rights, because think about an infant. | ||
| Like a zero to three month old has neither of those two things. | ||
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| Then when you can prove souls exist, we can determine who gets rights and who doesn't. | ||
| But that's the basis of our country was built on the belief that they do. | ||
| That's the thing, like what I'm presenting here is not a new idea, it's not a religious, it's not me being like a bible thumper, it's like our constitution Acknowledged. | ||
| I mean, even our Declaration of Independence, Thomas Jefferson said we were by our creator, right? | ||
| Endowed by our creator. | ||
| And so the problem is, if two people walk up to a cop, and they both look indistinguishable from each other, and they both point at the other and say, they're a robot, what's the cop to do? | ||
| Is he going to pull out his soul detection system to figure out which one's worthy of human rights and which one isn't? | ||
| Or what if he says, you know what, you're both robots, and then shoots them both? | ||
| Uh-oh, one was a human. | ||
| Turns out the cop was the robot the whole time. | ||
| What if the cop says, I'm gonna use this scanning device on you, and the person says, that's a violation of my Fourth Amendment rights, you can't use that on me. | ||
| But if you have nothing to hide, then why would you say no? | ||
| Doesn't matter, Fourth Amendment, you need a warrant, you need probable cause for a search like that, you can't just walk up to me and do it. | ||
| And the cop says, I don't care about your rights, because you might be a robot. | ||
| Scanned, oops, it was a human. | ||
| Well, this is why I wouldn't give them human rights, but personhood, like corporations are people, legally. | ||
| So I can see why, and you're saying elephant, they're giving elephants personhood rights. | ||
| New York ruled against it, ultimately. | ||
| I think in India they did something they have with dolphins and elephants as well. | ||
| So weird. | ||
| So like, if we're gonna give corporations personhood, then we can give AI personhood. | ||
| I got a complaint about this. | ||
| A legitimate complaint. | ||
| We were hanging out in West Virginia, in Charleston, and we hang out in West Virginia all the time. | ||
| We're in Charleston, not Charlestown. | ||
| Charleston's like five hours from here. | ||
| And we were checking out the Capitol Complex, and they had this big fence put up. | ||
| It said, no trespassing. | ||
| And you know what I saw? | ||
| I saw, I think it was a pigeon, flew right over the fence and landed right on the other side, mocking me! | ||
| And I looked at the pigeon and I said, how come the pigeon's allowed to go on the other side? | ||
| And a serious question. | ||
| I, as a human being of soul and mind, am barred from stepping on the other side of this fence for some arbitrary reason, but the animal is free from the consequences of law. | ||
| We don't care at all that these animals are coming and going as they please, pooping wherever they want. | ||
| With great intelligence comes great responsibility. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| This is called pigeon philosophy. | ||
| But this is my actual point. | ||
| Serious question. | ||
| Animals actually have certain exceptions in the law to do things that humans cannot do. | ||
| Humans are more restricted than pigeons. | ||
| Pigeons can quite literally eat whatever they want, and crap wherever they want, and go wherever they want, and that's it. | ||
| In fact, some migratory birds you can't even touch. | ||
| It's a federal crime. | ||
| I guess the animals that were really bad, we just eradicated them. | ||
| That's what I'm saying, ducks are protected. | ||
| Not all, but some ducks. | ||
| Okay, this is my answer. | ||
| So, the type of freedom that animals enjoy could be described as absolute freedom, right? | ||
| Someone threatens their family, they kill them, go wherever you want. | ||
| It's like, it's- it's- it's anarchy, right? | ||
| The animal kingdom is anarchy. | ||
| Quick point. | ||
| If a bear or a mountain lion, protecting its family, kills a person, they will hunt it down and kill it. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So that, that, that, you know, but if you're like a duck and someone goes near your babies and then the duck, let's say, I shouldn't say your duck, but if a duck, if you go near a duck's babies and it starts attacking you, they're going to yell at you and be like, get away from the duck's babies. | ||
| Yeah, which is kind of ridiculous. | ||
| I think we can agree. | ||
| I mean, it's kind of like that comparison that if you break the egg of a bald eagle, you're liable under federal crime, but you can abort a human child and you're allowed to do it. | ||
| That's exactly it right there. | ||
| If you step on a turtle egg on accident, you'll get in trouble, but you can abort a baby outright at any point in Colorado. | ||
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| See, that's what I'm saying. | ||
| Humans have less rights than animals. | ||
| Some animals, like cows, have less rights than humans. | ||
| Don't get me wrong. | ||
| We've got less freedom. | ||
| Animals don't have any rights. | ||
| But that's the thing. | ||
| That's my point. | ||
| It's not less freedom, it's different freedom. | ||
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It's a different definition of freedom. | |
| Rights are not granted. | ||
| Humans don't grant rights. | ||
| We have rights. | ||
| Animals can travel around. | ||
| They can defend themselves. | ||
| They can seek shelter. | ||
| They can say whatever they want, granted it's limited to squawking and growling. | ||
| They can do all of that. | ||
| They can defend themselves. | ||
| If you start climbing up towards a bird's nest and the bird starts pecking your head, that bird is not going to be harmed in any way by anyone. | ||
| In fact, humans will yell at you for having done it. | ||
| If you grab the egg from a bird's nest and throw it, your neighbors will probably get really, really mad at you and complain about what you did, but you can quite literally. | ||
| This is a hilarious thing. | ||
| What do you think would happen if a woman who was eight months pregnant in Colorado was walking into an abortion clinic, and before she went in, she just smashed a bunch of duck eggs? | ||
| People would say, how dare you smash those duck eggs? | ||
| Why are you harming those baby ducks? | ||
| And then she goes, sorry about that, and then she goes inside and, right. | ||
| So the reason I think, and so all of this is so funny, it is true. | ||
| I mean, it's true, it's funny because it's true, but it's also because humans aren't governed by absolute freedom. | ||
| We have an acknowledgement that we are supposed to live within some sort of moral order. | ||
| So, perhaps smashing duck eggs for no reason, or shooting a bald eagle just to make it a trophy, or harming an animal, or, you know, killing an endangered species. | ||
| We as a society acknowledge that that's an immoral thing, which is why our actions are governed by a government that's supposed to be comprised of ourselves. | ||
| And so we're supposed to live in some kind of order. | ||
| We're not supposed to live in anarchy the way that animals do. | ||
| How do we create the moral structure sociologically? | ||
| Literally, with this technology in modern day, how, what do you propose? | ||
| You mean how do we define morality? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, luckily, I don't have to be the one that answers that question in the sense that I don't have to write that code. | ||
| We don't have to decide that in a populist manner. | ||
| I mean, the way that our government was already created was to be governed by morality as defined by original — Edmund Burke called it original justice, which is natural law. | ||
| So natural law is your ability to reason as a human being, my ability to reason. | ||
| We know that it's immoral to go out and be a serial killer. | ||
| We know that not because it's socialized into us, but we know that that's inherently wrong. | ||
| We are able, actually, to discern right from wrong without being taught. | ||
| That's why the Marxists try to indoctrinate our children so young, so that they can twist our understanding of reason or our reason in being able to discern natural law. | ||
| So, our society should be based—our laws and our moral order should be based on natural law. | ||
| Again, not forcing anyone to worship any god that they don't want to, but the laws of our society should be based on the definition of right and wrong and justice and liberty as already defined by our Creator. | ||
| What about, like, starving family, stealing food? | ||
| Is that—do you think that's punishable by—like, they used to kill people for that kind of thing, but—desperate times, you know, but like, what do you—is that moral or just for a starving family to steal food? | ||
| Well, that seems a little hyperbolic. | ||
| It seems like the exception to the rule and not the rule. | ||
| If we have a society that's based on moral order, there should be other recourse before that's necessary. | ||
| I mean, no, I don't think that killing someone for stealing food is a just punishment. | ||
| But theoretically, a moral society would have other people who feel obligated to help those who are less fortunate. | ||
| But don't make the mistake of comparing ancient law to modern context. | ||
| Stealing food 2,000 years ago, you would be killing the person you stole the food from. | ||
| Food was harder to come by, people were more strained, and someone who was selling food, like, food was accounted for. | ||
| So if you were like, I'm starving so I'm gonna steal from you, it's like you are sentencing my family to death. | ||
| Yeah, that's actually a really good point, because now it's like, well, you're too lazy to get a job, or you wanted something that was too expensive for you, or you're not behaving the way that you're supposed to be behaving. | ||
| Our society is abundant with resources. | ||
| There's no reason that anyone should be stealing food now. | ||
| You can get help. | ||
| You can, I mean, I'm a conservative and I still believe in a limited government welfare safety net for people who can't help themselves, right? | ||
| Like, we all do. | ||
| We're all, we all believe in- And like, soup kitchens are typically run by religious- Food banks. | ||
| Food banks or community organizations. | ||
| We formed other ways to help people in need. | ||
| It's not like you either starve or you steal, right? | ||
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| We have other options here. | ||
| I think it's too reductionist to say that those are the only options. | ||
| I want to jump to another subject. | ||
| No, let's keep the sentence like that at heart. | ||
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| Go to finish. | ||
| Go to finish. | ||
| Well, the last part, I was just going to talk about intelligence, sentience, and consciousness again, those three words and how they form into the totalitarian step towards communism. | ||
| It's a long conversation. | ||
| Let's talk a bit about philosophy and religion. | ||
| We do the members portion, because I do want to talk about a news segment for our last segment for Super Chats. | ||
| We have this tweet from Matthew Iglesias, and he asked an interesting question. | ||
| He says, I'm a very literal-minded person, but I don't understand the idea of a guy currently losing the race for the GOP presidential nomination debating a Democrat who isn't running. | ||
| I want to pause real quick and say, just because dissenters may be dropping in polls, Doesn't mean he shouldn't be debating anybody. | ||
| No, I mean, he's trying to win, so he's going to do this. | ||
| But it is an interesting question of why Ron DeSantis, who's in second place, is debating a guy who's not running for office. | ||
| So we have the story here from Politico. | ||
| DeSantis agrees to debate Gavin Newsom on Fox News. | ||
| The California governor has been trying to get his Florida Republican counterparts to engage. | ||
| On Wednesday, he got it. | ||
| Okay, so serious question. | ||
| Why do you guys think these guys are in a debate? | ||
| Like, what's the point? | ||
| Well, I think you mentioned it before the show. | ||
| I mean, I think they are both trying to gain attention. | ||
| I think that they both would ultimately like to be the people who are facing off on the ticket. | ||
| I think if they had done this at the height of COVID, when they both had such different strategies, it would be a really interesting conversation. | ||
| For now, it just seems like their establishments are trying to rally around them and make it seem like they are really the people in charge. | ||
| Especially interesting because Joe Biden is the incumbent. | ||
| Yeah, this strikes me as like a measuring contest. | ||
| They're gonna whip it out and see who has a bigger GDP. | ||
| Who states bigger. | ||
| Yeah, actually, that's a good point. | ||
| I think that's what they're gonna do. | ||
| California's gonna, Newsom's gonna be like, in California we did this, and Ron's gonna be like, you got poop in the streets everywhere! | ||
| I hope he does say that. | ||
| Yeah, I really do. | ||
| I think this would have been so much more interesting if this was done six months ago, before DeSantis announced that he was running for president, because this is a legitimate debate, how California handled COVID versus how Florida handled COVID. | ||
| If you could have two states that are like, Case studies against each other, it would be great. | ||
| Yeah, and the American people really want to know that. | ||
| And a critique of Ron DeSantis since he launched his campaign is this is what he should have launched his campaign on. | ||
| Instead of attacking Trump personally or having his surrogates attack Trump, he should have just constantly been talking about what they did during COVID and people could make the comparison for themselves without feeling that he or his people were attacking Trump. | ||
| So maybe this is his attempt to reset his campaign since it was kind of a slow Roll out to use a kind word there. | ||
| DeSantis, I think, is just so bitter that Joe Biden is going to be the nominee for 2024. | ||
| He just can't believe it. | ||
| I think Newsom's going to be the Democrats' guy. | ||
| Yeah, this looks like this is Newsom's coming out party. | ||
| This is like him announcing he's going to run for president, basically. | ||
| Why would he be debating a presidential candidate? | ||
| And I said this last night, and I'll say it again, the best possible scenario for Democrats is Joe Biden at a rally. | ||
| Newsom is there as a surrogate, just in support. | ||
| Health issue affects Joe Biden. | ||
| Panicked in front of a crowd, in front of television. | ||
| Newsom runs full speed to render first aid. | ||
| Panic ensues. | ||
| Newsom then does the press rounds of the guy. | ||
| What was it like? | ||
| What was going through your mind? | ||
| Like rolling up his sleeves. | ||
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| Taking the jacket off, losing his tie, and then screaming for help. | ||
| And then putting on every single television network. | ||
| What was it like when you saved the president's life? | ||
| That is the best case scenario Democrats could have to get this guy in the race. | ||
| I would also like to, I think that is the best case scenario. | ||
| It makes me wonder, as we know, Joe Biden famously spends most of his weekends, almost all of them in Delaware, where one could maybe potentially get secret medical treatment. | ||
| I wonder if there will be, I'm just gonna say, I don't know. | ||
| I'm just, it's just hypothetical. | ||
| I wonder if, sort of along the same lines, we're going to get an announcement that tragically Joe Biden has some sort of terminal illness that won't allow him to continue. | ||
| So though he wanted to, we've got to have someone else come forward and this will place Newsom as the obvious contender. | ||
| It depends on how sneaky and capable you think Democrats are. | ||
| Because if Joe Biden says, I'm sick, that's really damaging for the Democrats as a brand. | ||
| They're sickly leader and they were forced to replace him. | ||
| Gavin Newsom then steps into the fray as a second tier Joe Biden. | ||
| Nah, it's not going to fly. | ||
| Trump is winning in the polls. | ||
| And even with the scenario described, I do not see a landslide possibility, right? | ||
| You'd think about, you go back in time when the country is a bit more cohesive, a president having a heart attack on stage, and someone running out and saving his life with CPR, that guy's gonna have an approval rating in the 80s or 90s. | ||
| And he says something like, I may disagree, we may be political rivals, but we're all Americans, and they're gonna be screaming and cheering. | ||
| Even with something like that, Democrats would not be able to muster landslide level votes because people are torn apart. | ||
| People hate the Democrats. | ||
| But if the Democrat route is Joe Biden is weak and bows out, Trump wins. | ||
| I don't think you're wrong. | ||
| I'm just saying it's probably, again, depending on what they're able to stage, it's probably simpler if they just say Joe Biden has to exit, he's not going to be around. | ||
| Super simple, but failing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They'd lose face if they did that. | ||
| I think Newsom- I just don't know what the odds are. | ||
| Like I said, we got to check the calendar, see when they're going to appear on stage together, and all get prepared to watch the event. | ||
| If they do, if they do. | ||
| I'm not saying it will happen. | ||
| I'm just like, Look, if you were to ask me... We talk about January 6th. | ||
| That video comes out where the police chief is basically saying someone may have wanted this to happen. | ||
| It's a cover-up. | ||
| January 6th was the best thing for Democrats. | ||
| It's giving them everything. | ||
| It's giving them the Insurrection Act to remove people from office. | ||
| They got that guy Coy Griffin, I think his name was, removed from office. | ||
| They said, oh, he was an insurrectionist. | ||
| Now they're indicting Trump. | ||
| They did the January 6th committees. | ||
| It may not be as effective as they hope it is, but it is their weapon. | ||
| Thinking in that context, I've said, if Donald Trump did not stop the rioting on May 29th in D.C., he'd still be president, because the narrative would be inverted. | ||
| In that same context, I'm thinking forward. | ||
| What could the Democrats do that would guarantee a victory, or at least to a certain degree, rapidly accelerate their possibility of winning? | ||
| And it's Gavin Newsom on camera on every major network performing CPR on Joe Biden and saving his life. | ||
| It also explains why he would leapfrog Kamala Harris. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And how they get Joe Biden out of the race and Gavin in as the frontrunner. | ||
| There's one Democrat who doesn't want Joe Biden to bow out. | ||
| One. | ||
| Jill? | ||
| No. | ||
| Joe Biden? | ||
| This is a quote from Barack Obama in November of 2020. | ||
| This is what he said. | ||
| If I could make an arrangement where I had a stand-in or a front man or front woman to be president and they had an earpiece in and I was just in my basement in my sweats looking through the stuff and I could sort of deliver the lines while someone was doing all the talking and ceremony, I'd be fine with that. | ||
| And Joe Biden was like, I'm your man, don't even worry about it. | ||
| No, they were like, Joe Biden, you're the man! | ||
| But it doesn't have to be Joe Biden. | ||
| Oh, no way that he would let Barack Obama control him via an earpiece. | ||
| Absolutely he would. | ||
| Newsom is a lizard person. | ||
| I mean, that figuratively media matters calm down. | ||
| He's going to be like, tell me what to do, because he's just a slimy guy who wants power. | ||
| He doesn't care. | ||
| I think there's two different camps of Democrats, though. | ||
| There's, like, the Chicago- the corrupt Chicago people, and then there's the California people, right? | ||
| Like, Nancy Pelosi came from California politics. | ||
| Schumer came from California politics. | ||
| Like, um, these- And Newsom and Pelosi are, like, indirectly related, right? | ||
| Am I totally wrong? | ||
| Are they? | ||
| I'm gonna double-check that. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I mean, it wasn't Schumer. | ||
| It was Adam Schiff came from California, not Schumer. | ||
| Schumer's in New York. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| There's like this California breed of Democrats who are very radical left. | ||
| And then there's the Chicago breed. | ||
| And they're kind of in competition with each other because they both want to be the leaders of the Democrats in Washington, D.C. | ||
| So I don't think that he would listen to Barack Obama the way that Biden would. | ||
| So like the Clinton, Obama camp, Biden, all that. | ||
| That's like a unique kind of structure within that system. | ||
| And then there's other people like, that's interesting. | ||
| Newsom was, his uncle by marriage was Nancy Pelosi's brother-in-law. | ||
| So they were at one point very indirectly related. | ||
| I will say that they do have a lot in common. | ||
| You know, they both didn't wear masks when they instructed everyone else to. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| In California. | ||
| They can do whatever they want. | ||
| I will say, I actually am super open. | ||
| I am critical of debates because I feel like these big stage, you know, you have 6, 12 candidates on where they scream at each other and try to get their viral moments. | ||
| It's not effective. | ||
| We're not learning anything about policy. | ||
| It's whatever. | ||
| But I think one-on-one debates, I mean, you see this with culture war, can be really effective. | ||
| And having governors face off, especially on issues where their states in particular become representations of cultural differences, that would be super cool. | ||
| I would love to see the governor of Washington debate the governor of Idaho on the abortion travel law, right? | ||
| There are things that could be good about this format. | ||
| I'm just saying right now this is obviously playing into the presidential candidate as opposed to the welfare of their states. | ||
| There are two factions in this country that we here at TimCast are unable to book, and it is prominent leftist personalities and the DeSantis campaign. | ||
| I had someone tell me that they don't want to come on IRL, someone who's for DeSantis, say, well, you know, IRL's too pro-Trump, so it's not even worth going on. | ||
| But I feel like it is worth coming on to at least Talk about it, but they feel like they're walking into a hostile environment. | ||
| We had Lance from the Serfs and Vosh come on this show. | ||
| You know, we had Emma from the Majority Report come on the show. | ||
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| We would have any DeSantis supporter on the show the same as we're having you on the show, and we would talk about the exact same things. | ||
| But they've explicitly said they won't have people on the show. | ||
| And so we're actually supposed to have a big culture war show, not this week, next week, debating between two supporters of DeSantis, a DeSantis supporter and a Trump supporter, and the DeSantis supporter just said he wants to back out because he's now backing Trump. | ||
| And we were trying to get someone from DeSantis' campaign, we can't do it. | ||
| Because I think that's actually what I feel like you want in particular, you know, to have a variety of opinions. | ||
| That's actually better. | ||
| I think you never really want to be a part of the echo chamber and that's why you need to have people from both sides. | ||
| It's interesting that they are choosing even though the invitation is open. | ||
| It is funny that it's easier for us to get leftists than it is to get dissent supporters. | ||
| You gotta say, they'll do it. | ||
| To be fair, we had John Cardillo on the show, right? | ||
| So it's not like we don't get any, of course, and he stated his case. | ||
| The weird part is, I can't tell the difference between Cardillo and anybody else. | ||
| Like, I don't care. | ||
| I really don't mind the politics. | ||
| You know, I would love to debate Marxism with a Marxist. | ||
| I want to know more about it. | ||
| Like, tell me. | ||
| Yeah, I think that's the thing. | ||
| You want to have more information, and especially, like, if you had someone who was on the Santa's campaign here, we could ask more specific questions about what's going on, and they could answer them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm a manifest. | ||
| So if we start manifesting, they will come on. | ||
| We might. | ||
| So what we're thinking for the next, uh, tomorrow we have Alex Stein and Mo Dean coming on. | ||
| Are they going to fight right here at this table? | ||
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| But, uh, I don't even, I don't know. | ||
| We'll see what happens with the show. | ||
| But then the next week, the question was, do we ask the former Trump's, former DeSantis supporter, now Trump supporter to just bow out and we'll find someone who's backing DeSantis? | ||
| Or do we actually just keep the booking as it is and then hear the arguments as to why he no longer does and why he did? | ||
| It's tough because there are a few people we could... I could probably reach out to John Cardell and ask him if he wants to come on and debate pro-DeSantis. | ||
| I think Kurt Schlichter might be a DeSantis supporter, I'm not entirely sure. | ||
| There's a handful that are, you know, in the bag for... in the corner for DeSantis. | ||
| I don't know, what do you guys think? | ||
| Should we... | ||
| Just keep it as it is and hear why this guy no longer supports DeSantis, or should we try and get somebody else? | ||
| I think Cordillo would be interesting, just because he was so gung-ho. | ||
| I wonder if he's still as gung-ho as he was in the past. | ||
| I'm just gonna- I'm just gonna say who it is. | ||
| Well, I won't say who the person is who's no longer backing DeSantis, because that's their private business to announce, but Laura Loomer will be coming on, and then we are looking for someone who is a DeSantis supporter. | ||
| I feel like it would be interesting to hear this person's perspective of why they were for DeSantis and then change. | ||
| In terms of a debate, to keep that spirit of culture war alive, I do feel like you have to find someone from the DeSantis camp. | ||
| Well, they won't do it. | ||
| Well, the question is, like, you've had a lot of people on, like, maybe there are DeSantis people who have been on the show before who would be willing to do it if John Cardillo asked. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| I think it would be more interesting for a debate if someone was, like, already very committed to the DeSantis camp, committed to the Trump camp. | ||
| It's not going to be really that same. | ||
| It's not going to be a debate. | ||
| If it's the other way. | ||
| The perspective of going from one to the other is interesting. | ||
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| Theoretically, you could have both. | ||
| You could have a different debate where it's this person who's gone from being supportive of DeSantis to moving to Trump and the opposite. | ||
| This is actually why I think it's silly for people to get in a camp this early. | ||
| Like, you don't know how a candidate's gonna behave. | ||
| You don't know what's gonna happen. | ||
| Well, the primary's like in March, isn't it? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's coming up. | ||
| Isn't it August right now? | ||
| Wait, that's eight months away. | ||
| That's eight months from now. | ||
| When did DeSantis even announce? | ||
| I mean, Pence announced in June. | ||
| Two months ago. | ||
| That's quick to be entirely committed to one candidate. | ||
| I'm going to vote in the Republican primary. | ||
| I don't know who I'm going to vote for, and I'm not in any rush to make this decision. | ||
| I want to let the whole thing play out. | ||
| It's why I don't like early voting. | ||
| A lot of things happen. | ||
| No one, in my view, is more committed to Trump's campaign than Laura Loomer. | ||
| True. | ||
| Like, 10 out of 10. | ||
| There are people who are fans of Trump, but, like, Laura is... And year after year. | ||
| Laura has been consistent for a long time. | ||
| And going 100 miles an hour. | ||
| And I'd love to have a show with one of Trump's most ardent supporters and one of DeSantis' most ardent supporters, but we cannot get DeSantis' most ardent supporters. | ||
| They don't want to do it. | ||
| We can. | ||
| You gotta manifest that they want it. | ||
| Just start saying they want to come on. | ||
| And I think we should just comb back through who's been on IRL and see, like, if they'd be willing to come on. | ||
| Because I think some of it is, I would at least personally, like, if you're not aware of what the environment's like, feeling like you're going into a place that, like, already hates you, I mean, that takes a lot of nerve. | ||
| The unfortunate issue is that the people- Not that we hate DeSantis supporters, that's not it. | ||
| The DeSantis supporters, I'll just keep this vague as I can, people we've had on the show before who are now in the DeSantis camp are barred from coming on the show. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| End of story. | ||
| Like you think it's a top-down directive that DeSantis- I don't think. | ||
| I know. | ||
| That DeSantis' camp has- Forbade people from coming on the show. | ||
| That seems crazy. | ||
| It seems crazy to me. | ||
| I feel like you would want to have the ideas, like, have people ask questions. | ||
| Like, I hate that. | ||
| That makes me, like, very sad. | ||
| Do you think it would be hostile to a DeSantis campaign surrogate if they were on the show? | ||
| No, it would be fucking awesome. | ||
| We had John Cardillo on the show. | ||
| Yeah, that's strange. | ||
| And there was some issue. | ||
| It would be so awesome. | ||
| And that was recently. | ||
| That was a couple weeks ago, or like a month ago or something. | ||
| We'll get Vivek involved, Donald Trump and Ron DeSantis have talks. | ||
| That's what the Republican debate should be. | ||
| It's just a table around here. | ||
| Everyone, three hours. | ||
| Tim, you're moderating. | ||
| Well, we are organizing for the culture war, some of the presidential candidates to come on all at the same time. | ||
| That'd be so cool. | ||
| And so I think we've got a few who have said yes already, but I'm really hoping Marianne Williamson will come. | ||
| I love her. | ||
| I'm a big fan. | ||
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| That'd be so cool. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I won't say too much about that because I was like, you know, talking to Lisa Reynolds, she does the booking, I was like, if we get more than three people, we have to get an auditorium and do like a big thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But it would be cool if it was just sitting around a table and everyone kind of just like talking at each other would be, it's a better form. | ||
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| You know. | ||
| It's like more it's like raw. | ||
| It's like real. | ||
| There's no echo. | ||
| Yeah, it's not like hello. | ||
| Yeah, big auditorium. | ||
| I mean, that's cool, but... | ||
| It would be really great to have like Vivek. | ||
| If Vivek was talking with Marianne Williamson, it's going to be a polite, cordial conversation about these issues. | ||
| It would be a fantastic quote unquote debate because they're going to be professional and polite and have a real conversation with each other in front of people, as opposed to this current system that we've been doing where it's like, question for you and you can respond. | ||
| You have one minute to answer. | ||
| Here's the million dollar question is if you had all the Republican candidates sitting around the table, who would you sit next to each other? | ||
| How would you sit them? | ||
| Just right here? | ||
| Honestly, I'd probably just tell them to sit wherever they wanted to sit. | ||
| Yeah, it'd be interesting to see where they'd pick themselves. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It'd be like Donald would be like, you can sit at the head of the table, Donald, because it's the chair we use the least, but he wouldn't know. | ||
| I mean, he'd be like, no, no. | ||
| Well, I think some people who watch the show know this is like the normal chair that people sit in. | ||
| So I'd be curious. | ||
| Yeah, but the American flag. | ||
| I know. | ||
| I mean, I personally love this chair. | ||
| How do you actually debate? | ||
| How you debate Trump and win is in this format. | ||
| The stage format is Trump's battlefield. | ||
| He owns that. | ||
| He can cut you off. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| He can cut you off. | ||
| He can mock you. | ||
| They give him the opportunity for rebuttal. | ||
| He'll cut you off. | ||
| But in a situation like this, he would play very, very well. | ||
| But it's a different situation. | ||
| You'd get someone talking loudly, and then they'd go back and forth. | ||
| He'd listen a lot. | ||
| You'd see the humanity in him, which I think is lost on stage. | ||
| Like, you'd have to tell him to wear his golf outfits. | ||
| You know, like, wear his golf hat and his collared shirt. | ||
| Like, don't come in here in, like, the power suit. | ||
| We're gonna go to Super Chats! | ||
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| Click join us, become a member, and you'll get access to our uncensored members-only portion of the show. | ||
| We do those Mondays through Thursday at 10 p.m. | ||
| And tonight we're gonna talk about moral philosophy and religion. | ||
| Because we do this periodically and I think I always love an opportunity to do so, but I really want to talk about the structure of government, who we vote for, why, and what we need in this country as it pertains to ethics, morals, religious and spiritual values. | ||
| So that'll be a deep conversation and U.S. | ||
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| Let's read. | ||
| I'm not your buddy guy says the biggest reason why I believe 2020 was genuine fraud is because a a month prior to the election the Google trending search was penalties for voter fraud and be the response after 2020 I mean it was like Anthony Weiner defending himself and the Clinton body count absurd if anything there needs to be a deep dive into the Intel community and what they do as I would not be surprised if decades ago they tried to cheat communists from winning I hear ya. | ||
| I hear that. | ||
| Well, Vivek is filing these DOJ FOIA requests to figure out what they were saying to each other relating to the indictments of Donald Trump. | ||
| That's fantastic. | ||
| Alright, Voice of the People says, of course it was a cover-up. | ||
| Remember Pelosi's coup attempt? | ||
| Why was her daughter filming that day? | ||
| What did she mean by she's waiting for that moment? | ||
| Why did she block the National Guard? | ||
| Interesting questions. | ||
| She did literally say that, I believe, right? | ||
| She said, waiting for that moment or something? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is light context. | ||
| To truly understand these specific phrases, you gotta look into the deeper stories about what they actually mean. | ||
| It's like hard to just condense all those things into talking points. | ||
| Raymond G. Stanley Jr. | ||
| says, Tim, Biden gets sent to the farm, so Newsom is the nominee. | ||
| Trump is convicted and can't run, so DeSantis is the nominee. | ||
| That's why they're debating. | ||
| It's all part of the deep state uniparty plan. | ||
| I'm not saying, you know, I think it's a possibility. | ||
| But it doesn't mean that Newsom and DeSantis are in on it. | ||
| It means that Newsom wants to run. | ||
| He hasn't announced yet because Biden's still in the way, but I believe it's a fair point that the intelligence agencies would love to have DeSantis versus Newsom. | ||
| Biden is too weak, probably can't win. | ||
| DeSantis is going to get elected, and then he's going to compromise in the same way Trump did. | ||
| We all said, oh, drain the swamp. | ||
| DeSantis says he's going to start firing Deep State right away. | ||
| He probably will, but he's going to go to these people and he's going to say, look, we don't want war. | ||
| We want to set some policies. | ||
| We'll do our thing. | ||
| And then they'll say, yeah, sure, no problem. | ||
| And then it'll be Trump all over again. | ||
| The only reason I consider Trump for round two is because he wants revenge. | ||
| DeSantis hasn't yet experienced that, so I'm not... I think it really comes down to Well, I'll put it this way. | ||
| Trump is more likely to fire people than DeSantis is, in my opinion, because he wants revenge. | ||
| And then everyone says, but he didn't do it in the first place. | ||
| And I'm like, yeah, but now he wants revenge. | ||
| Like that's the key factor here. | ||
| And then the issue with DeSantis is his campaign is mismanaged. | ||
| And so I'm not super confident anymore, but you know, we'll see. | ||
| We'll see. | ||
| Gary G says, Tim, what kind of watch is that? | ||
| Looks cool. | ||
| This is the, uh, what is it, Garmin? | ||
| Phoenix Pro. | ||
| So, uh, we were hanging out with Luke when I was at Tijuana and he had one of these. | ||
| I don't know if he had this one specifically, he had a bigger one. | ||
| And it does a lot of health tracking stuff, which is actually pretty good. | ||
| And then he made fun of my analog watch. | ||
| And I was like, you know what, I'll get one of these. | ||
| It's actually, it's really cool because for fitness training, first of all, it's solar powered. | ||
| So not, the battery lasts like a month. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| But it's got a flashlight on it too. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| It's got a light. | ||
| You see that? | ||
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That's crazy. | |
| That's awesome. | ||
| Yeah, super crazy. | ||
| A little flashlight on the watch. | ||
| But you just double tap, it turns on. | ||
| But it tracks in simple language my exercise routine. | ||
| So for instance, I skated pretty heavily on Monday. | ||
| And then it showed me what degree of recovery I'm at throughout the day and the level of intensity I should be exercising at to maintain maximum recovery. | ||
| And I got wiped out on Monday. | ||
| Skated for like two hours, super intense, nonstop. | ||
| Took a break on Tuesday. | ||
| On Wednesday, yesterday, I was pretty tired, pretty sore. | ||
| But it said, moderate exercise capable. | ||
| And it made sense, because I was a little sore, and then I skated as hard as possible, and it gave me a warning. | ||
| This white screen popped up, and it was like, you are over-exerting yourself. | ||
| Your recovery time is being extended. | ||
| Human, bow to us. | ||
| Do not move. | ||
| Well, I just kept skating. | ||
| It can tell me I can't, but my point is, it tracked all of this data and is explaining to me, you know, a lot of the basic data. | ||
| So I like it. | ||
| It's just a smartwatch. | ||
| This is why I don't use it, because it tracks the data. | ||
| I don't get it. | ||
| You and Luke are both really, like, libertarian, outspoken about, like, no, World Economic Forum, we're not going to get in your pod, but, like, why do you track your biometrics? | ||
| Because that's sending it right to them. | ||
| I think that's the hard thing, because there are times that it's really interesting to know how your body's responding and your heart rate. | ||
| It's massively valuable data, I agree. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And is there a way to unhook it from it's being sent to the AI? | ||
| Well, but listen. | ||
| There's a laser on the back of this, and it's scanning the blood moving through my wrist. | ||
| That's how it tracks everything. | ||
| Your oxygen levels, your heart rate variability, your heart rate. | ||
| Heart rate's the easiest one, obviously. | ||
| It's tracking data points we can't perceive as humans. | ||
| There will come a time, and we're very very close to this already, where you'll buy the watch, you'll put it on, and then after a week it'll say, after analyzing your data, We have found that you have these, you know, these markers and it'll be like pre-diabetic, it'll say potential cancer at this age, you know, heart health issues at this age. | ||
| It can see things in the data that we can't notice, but when enough people use these health trackers, pros and cons, man, I totally get it. | ||
| Mass spying versus, you know, AI benefit. | ||
| If everybody used this, the network would know, okay, all diabetics have this level of X. All cancer patients have this level of X. And then, when you put it on, it'll be able to diagnose you instantly. | ||
| You don't have to go to the doctor, it'll just be like, based on everything we know about humans, You have this problem, and you need this medicine. | ||
| If it's an honest AI, but if the code is proprietary, I could see it being like, uh-oh, they watched one of our commercials, and it's making them stressed and cancerous. | ||
| I was gonna say, you forgot about the part of the algorithm that's like, you're white, so you can go to the back of the line for the medical care that you need. | ||
| Well, I'm not, so I'm cool, you know. | ||
| Oh, you're going to pull that one-quarter thing right now! | ||
| One-quarter thing! | ||
| When I need to, absolutely. | ||
| Me too, except... All right, all right. | ||
| Let's read some more. | ||
| We got Max Reddick. | ||
| He says, you should have Destiny back on to talk about Joe Biden's quid pro quo. | ||
| He seems to think you are wrong. | ||
| Destiny is completely wrong. | ||
| He's biased. | ||
| There's no question. | ||
| There's no honest assessment. | ||
| Where you can look at Devin Archer saying we were selling the brand of the Bidens and Joe Biden's on the phone, that Hunter Biden and BRISMA executives called D.C. | ||
| because the prosecutor was putting pressure on us, and then Joe Biden went and got the prosecutor fired. | ||
| There's no sane, reasonable person who is being honest who can say that Joe Biden's intentions were completely coincidental. | ||
| I think somebody was saying- It just so happened to be that way! | ||
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| That the prosecutor was so bad he wouldn't fire anybody, so they got rid of him. | ||
| That's just nonsense, because the prosecutor they brought in shut down all of the investigations. | ||
| So, Burisma's being investigated by Victor Shokin. | ||
| Hunter Biden and the execs call DC, which Devin Archer, I guess, was implying it was an innuendo for call Biden. | ||
| Joe Biden's on the phone with Hunter and his business partners. | ||
| There is no way Joe did not know what was going on. | ||
| Joe then flies personally to Ukraine and says, fire the prosecutor or else. | ||
| They make this argument where they're like, But Victor Shokin wasn't doing the investigations. | ||
| That's why he had to get rid of him. | ||
| And then I'm like, and then after they got rid of Shokin, they brought in someone who was solid, says Joe Biden. | ||
| And that guy who was solid shut down the investigations into Burisma. | ||
| Then when Donald Trump got on the phone with, I think it was Poroshenko at the time, I'm not sure. | ||
| And he said, what's going on with this video that's going, we see this video of Joe Biden saying this, what is this? | ||
| I'd like it if you can look into this, let people know you're looking into it. | ||
| And then what happens? | ||
| Mykola Zlochevsky, the founder of Brezhnev, flees the country again. | ||
| That's weird. | ||
| He had fled the country when Viktor Shokin was investigating. | ||
| When Shokin gets removed, he comes back. | ||
| When Donald Trump steps in, he flees the country again. | ||
| No sane, rational person who's being honest is gonna believe that Joe Biden was doing something honest. | ||
| We gotta have destiny back on. | ||
| And by the way, Joe Biden admitted this on video after the Obama administration. | ||
| He literally got on stage and was like, yeah, we threatened to withhold money if they didn't If they didn't fire this prosecutor. | ||
| And man, within an hour it happened. | ||
| He said it himself. | ||
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You said it. | |
| You said it right there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This isn't even inference. | ||
| He said it. | ||
| And the response people give on the left is, but it was the policy of the United States. | ||
| And it's like, OK. | ||
| So the vice president can threaten to withhold congressionally approved loan guarantees if the U.S. | ||
| sets the policy? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So then why was Donald Trump impeached? | ||
| Because you claimed he had no authority to withhold congressionally approved loan guarantees. | ||
| But Donald Trump is the president and sets the policy. | ||
| Just like Joe Biden said, call the president. | ||
| He'll tell you. | ||
| It's nonsense. | ||
| They're lying. | ||
| And I think, I think destiny just cannot be on the, in this instance, you know, Trump was right camp. | ||
| Good, I want to, I want to know. | ||
| That'll be a good conversation. | ||
| Like, for destiny to watch the Kyle Rittenhouse thing and be like, oh, plain as day, here's the truth. | ||
| Like, I trust him. | ||
| For him to say this about Joe Biden, he's clearly missing information. | ||
| Very clearly. | ||
| He's just all Michael Malice on, uh, You're Welcome. | ||
| Didn't see the whole episode, looked pretty fun. | ||
| That sounds like it would probably be a really, really good episode. | ||
| Cause Destiny's really smart. | ||
| I'd love, I should watch that actually. | ||
| I'd love to see it. | ||
| One comment said it was the most contentious episode they'd ever seen where no one was getting angry. | ||
| They were like having a good time. | ||
| That sounds like both Michael and Destiny, sounds really good. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Matt Shear says, it's my 25th birthday and I gotta love being able to listen to y'all. | ||
| Hey, thanks for the super chat and happy birthday. | ||
| I appreciate you sending us a present on your birthday. | ||
| Alistair Vucin says, Justin Trudeau's wife is leaving him for a real man like Ian Crosland. | ||
| The nature of men and women can't be ignored. | ||
| Yes. | ||
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I knew you were going to read that one. | |
| Can you confirm what's happening here? | ||
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I'm not going to talk about that. | |
| In public. | ||
| Leon Yoder says Marlene Barbera is fighting cancer. | ||
| She was dropped by her Portland Health Clinic for transphobia after staff at her clinic saw a private message to her, to her doctor, where she criticized a trans flag inside the clinic. | ||
| Leftists on X are celebrating. | ||
| Cold Civil War. | ||
| Yup. | ||
| Yeah, I saw that story. | ||
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That's like... I mean, this woman's undergoing cancer treatment? | |
| Oh, they don't care. | ||
| Yikes. | ||
| Verdin Horea says, The difference between US and French Revolution was the rights of man versus the rights of men. | ||
| We're centered on the individual, they're centered on class. | ||
| We the people as individuals versus we the collective people. | ||
| That's why you could be an enemy of the people. | ||
| Very interesting. | ||
| But I do think it's important to recognize that hyper-individualism is what brings us to where we are today. | ||
| Because nobody knows their neighbors anymore and they mind their own business and they don't form communities and defend those communities. | ||
| Double-edged sword, double-edged. | ||
| Moving on. | ||
| We will grab some more superchats. | ||
| 8BitPolterGuy says, sometimes when deleted videos or photos are recovered, the file can become readable, but may be corrupted. | ||
| Possible choppy footage explanation. | ||
| Perhaps. | ||
| Let's grab, oh, here's a good one. | ||
| David Magdaleno says, Tim, is it just me or did Big Daddy government give the green light to YouTube to lift the ban on speaking about J6 so they could indict Trump lest they ban literally all of the news podcasts? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| It was already bad enough when they, I think it was, um, Breaking Points with, uh, uh, Sager and, uh, Crystal. | ||
| They got suspended once because they played a clip of Trump at a rally or something like that and Trump said something with the election. | ||
| I think it was them. | ||
| They might have been, it might have been Hill Rising. | ||
| I think they were on the Hill at the time. | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| Before the left, yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or maybe it wasn't them. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm pretty sure they got, they got targeted by it. | ||
| Loyal Snoop Doge says I'm legally blind due to an optic nerve issue from birth. | ||
| LASIK won't work on me. | ||
| My only hope for normal vision is Neuralink, but even then I'm still extremely skeptical. | ||
| No, I totally get that. | ||
| The first thing that's going to happen is people who get Neuralink are going to be people who need medical treatment. | ||
| Paralyzed, they're going to be like, well, Neuralink can help you. | ||
| You're going to have any kind of like nerve damage from disease or anything, optic, your ears or whatever. | ||
| Auditory. | ||
| Yeah, auditory. | ||
| They're going to say, you know, Neuralink can help correct this problem. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think the first thing you'll see is going to be curing paralysis. | ||
| Stem cells can help, but also Neuralink, and Neuralink might be the fastest way to do it. | ||
| They'll say stem cells can take years, you know, you get the injection, it can be months, a lot of rehabilitation. | ||
| With Neuralink, the connection is instantaneously applied, and you should be walking within a month or two, once you, like, get the signals and figure it out and everything. | ||
| People are gonna immediately do that. | ||
| But then, the people who get the Neuralink for that are gonna start talking about, not only do they have the ability to walk, but now they can just think the internet. | ||
| Something like that will happen. | ||
| Like data feeds sent to their brains communicate telepathically. | ||
| What a terrifying sentence. | ||
| I can think the internet. | ||
| I can see where that would feel so great to some people at the same time. | ||
| And cyberbullying becomes serious. | ||
| What was that? | ||
| Was it Chancellor Everett who was like, cyberbullying's crazy, just turn the computer off. | ||
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But you can't when you think the internet. | |
| True. | ||
| It's like turning your thoughts off. | ||
| Lemma says, for Ian's question, Israel was a heavily socialist country, and they did away with it in the 80s and became capitalist. | ||
| The current political turmoil there is the socialist-dominated, overly-powered Supreme Court not wanting to give up its unfairly-consolidated powers. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Yeah, I've heard that they wanted to get rid of the Israeli Supreme Court. | ||
| That's wild. | ||
| I don't know a lot about it. | ||
| I didn't know it was a socialist Supreme Court, but to think that a country's gonna get rid of its Supreme Court is pretty freakish. | ||
| Yugi says, I think that Ian would love the anime Psycho-Pass. | ||
| It's about a computer that can read your mental state, and it can flag you as a latent criminal, and the police will arrest you. | ||
| Dude, you gotta learn how to meditate. | ||
| With no thought. | ||
| Because that kind of stuff can be real. | ||
| People can track your thought patterns, you gotta have none. | ||
| There's a funny new episode of Beavis and Butthead because they're doing the new season and they're meditating with their hippie teacher and he's like, clear your mind to reach a higher mental state. | ||
| And then because they have nothing in their brains, they just instantly elevate to Shambhala. | ||
| There's like a bunch of religious leaders are there and like Buddhas are there. | ||
| They cause all sorts of problems. | ||
| I thought that alcohol was getting me there, but it wasn't the same kind of no thought. | ||
| It was just a different kind of no thought. | ||
| All right, what's this? | ||
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| Federale says, to her point, I remember to this day, my mother was held up at the pay point while nurses took us to a room before shots. | ||
| They acted rushed, poked our ears and wiped swabs. | ||
| We cried hysterically. | ||
| They drew blood and dipped. | ||
| Mom says, didn't happen. | ||
| What is this in reference to? | ||
| You were saying, I think this is in reference to when Liz said that as a mom, you're told not to question the pediatrician, not to question anything. | ||
| They're acting like you're wasting their time, I think is what he's saying. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it's kind of crazy actually when you have a baby at first, you go into the pediatrician and they just like, any question you have, they're just like, the science, can't question it, you're crazy, we'll fire you if you don't do what we say. | ||
| Like, they're not collaborative at all. | ||
| Did you tell them to buzz off? | ||
| Yeah, I fired my pediatrician. | ||
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| But that's hard because, especially if you live, I don't know how rural the area you live in is, but like, you can run out of pediatricians, you can end up driving big distances. | ||
| I do, yeah. | ||
| Alright, Major Seller says, by her definition, aliens, if ever encountered, would not be sentient and wouldn't deserve rights. | ||
| You ready for this? | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| Aliens are just demons. | ||
| But what- so like if- what if aliens show up in like a big spaceship? | ||
| Would you just be like, their demons go away? | ||
| That's what I think it is. | ||
| That's what I think all these spotting of these UFOs- Like, holy water, here we go. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| Exactly, let me bless you. | ||
| No, I think it's just demons. | ||
| I think it's demons. | ||
| I don't think that- I think the idea of extraterrestrials coming from Mars is like a figment of someone's imagination. | ||
| But why Mars? | ||
| That's what I'm saying, like, who invented that? | ||
| Like, why do we think of a flying saucer and little green men? | ||
| Because that was science fiction, someone invented that. | ||
| Like, why is that more real to people than something that's invisible, but that throughout human history we've acknowledged is real, that there's a spiritual battle around us? | ||
| I think it's demons that are... | ||
| No one's saying that UFOs right now are coming from Mars, specifically. | ||
| I mean, some people might say Mars, specifically, but Mars isn't the main contender for where the aliens may come from, if they are. | ||
| Other planets? | ||
| Other universes? | ||
| I mean... Zeta Reticuli? | ||
| I think that's what they told Bob Lazar. | ||
| I mean, but it came from, like, the Martians, right? | ||
| Yeah, like, that's the whole... That was like a... | ||
| Saying they came from Mars is just because Mars is visible to the naked eye. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's kind of my point. | ||
| And people are like, I wonder if there's anything else on another planet. | ||
| But when we talk about the greater concept of extraterrestrial life, extraterrestrial just means outside of Earth. | ||
| So would you say that a demon is an extraterrestrial? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| A demon? | ||
| I don't think they're corporeal. | ||
| A demon, if born of another plane, would be, by definition, extraterrestrial. | ||
| Terrestrial, of course, referring to Earth, and extra meaning outside of, or beyond. | ||
| Okay, well I wonder if you're defining this more precisely than the general public. | ||
| But what I'm saying is the general public isn't coming out saying the aliens all came from Mars. | ||
| No, but they're saying that they came from, they're like life forms from other planets or other galaxies. | ||
| Or other dimensions, or from the future. | ||
| I haven't heard very many people saying other dimensions, saying that it's part of the spiritual battle. | ||
| Alex Jones, what was it, four years, five years ago? | ||
| They're saying they're interdimensional beings. | ||
| But that ties in with the demon concept. | ||
| Like if it's a pattern of energy that's manipulating mental states, like that could be pervasive throughout the system. | ||
| Let's talk about demons, and we'll talk more about this in the members only, because I got a lot of things to ask, but I want to read some more Super Chats. | ||
| I think it'll be a really good conversation. | ||
| Chad Shin says, Hey guys, great show tonight. | ||
| I'm starting a YouTube Rumble channel, streaming 5m Farm Sim 22 and other games. | ||
| Plus was wondering if you needed a handyman around your compound. | ||
| If so, where could I apply? | ||
| We just hired a handyman. | ||
| Oh, nice. | ||
| Literally just hired a handyman. | ||
| I don't know if we're announcing yet. | ||
| I can't wait till we do. | ||
| Yeah, that's fine. | ||
| I think I know who it is, but... Yeah. | ||
| I'm gonna... Like, everyone here already knows who it is. | ||
| Yeah, nice. | ||
| And everybody who watches the show knows who it is. | ||
| I got a picture with a handyman. | ||
| But they don't know that we hired them. | ||
| Congrats, my dude. | ||
| But I don't... I'm not gonna say anything until I have, like, the... I don't know who's doing what. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| No, it's all good. | ||
| It's really a fascinating moment, a profound... A profound moment in my life is when the first time a thing happened at Timcast that I had nothing to do with, it was a crazy thing for me. | ||
| Because, like, when the company first starts, like, I'm running everything. | ||
| And then one day I walk into, like, the office and I see this, like, binder of, like, TimCast policy procedure and stuff, and I was like, not only did I have nothing to do with it, I didn't even know anyone was going to be doing it. | ||
| And it's just there, like, whoa. | ||
| Like, things are being made. | ||
| Now people are getting hired! | ||
| Is that nice? | ||
| Like, that we have grown to a point where, like, you don't have to be involved in everything? | ||
| Or does it feel weird? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's an experience to be like, oh wow, look at that, like it's doing its own thing now. | ||
| Level of trust with your employees. | ||
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I know. | |
| I feel like when that happens for me, it's like a bittersweet thing. | ||
| Part of me is like proud because I'm like, great, you know, delegate, people do things, it becomes its thing. | ||
| And part of me is like, well, what if it has my name on it and I don't like it? | ||
| I think that must be really hard. | ||
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All right. | |
| We will grab some more Super Chats. | ||
| Stephen Wolfe says Tim Cass and Joe Rogan should host the debates 2024. | ||
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100%. | |
| I would never host any kind of debate they do, but in the sense of Tim Cass and Joe Rogan should have presidential candidates on their shows, sometimes together, it's a very, very good idea. | ||
| I think Joe is, um... The reason why Joe Rogan's show is so important is that he knows so much about so much. | ||
| And, uh... | ||
| He can provide a general audience-seeking entertainment, especially when it comes to, like, MMA fans who just like watching a show, with general knowledge of things the mainstream press does not give people. | ||
| And then what we have here is probably similar politics, but hyper-esoteric and hard for the general public. | ||
| So if you really wanted to have, like, a good debate that would reach the most people, it would be Joe Rogan with, like, two different candidates on and them just talking. | ||
| I think if we did it, like, the stuff we're talking about with Joe Biden and Burisma is gonna go over the heads of the average person. | ||
| Like, we should do it, but it's for a politically-minded audience. | ||
| If you're trying to win votes and trying to expose, you know, the average person to new ideas, Joe Rogan clearly is the guy. | ||
| And I think it was Patrick that David was telling him to have Trump on. | ||
| Oh, good. | ||
| Joe, you gotta do it. | ||
| You gotta have Trump on the show, because... Trump's been wanting to go on. | ||
| I think Trump would do it in a heartbeat. | ||
| Apparently he's wanted to do it. | ||
| And Joe was talking about how he would ask him about the deep state, about the inner workings of politics, what it's like when you get in there. | ||
| And those are the questions that matter. | ||
| Joe was saying before his concern was that he would help Trump or whatever. | ||
| And I'm like, here's my view. | ||
| I don't care if it helps or hurts. | ||
| We don't invite people on this show because it might help them. | ||
| You know, people are like, thank you for having me on the show, it really helped, and I'm like, I don't know, whatever. | ||
| Like, you're a person doing a thing we want to hear from you, you know what I mean? | ||
| Donald Trump being asked questions by Joe will be deeply enlightening. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Very, very good. | ||
| It would be good for our country, like, if people understood how the deep state worked. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Uh, let's see, Dolan Tired says, get Dave Rubin for Pro DeSantis. | ||
| Oh yeah, I saw that. | ||
| Oh, that's a good idea, actually. | ||
| I don't but the problem with Dave hosts his own show. Yeah, we can't be like hey Dave stop doing your show and come do | ||
| ours instead. It's like that's not fair. It's not a fair question. | ||
| I saw a chat that's saying Steve Dease. I don't know if he supports DeSantis openly, but I love it. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Steve Dease is cool. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think Ruben is on his August break so he might come on. | ||
| Oh, that'd be cool. | ||
| Hey, you're on vacation. Would you come on? | ||
| I mean, like, it's interesting. | ||
| I got a feeling he's gonna say something like he takes these breaks for a reason, you know what I mean? | ||
| That's fair, that is fair. | ||
| They had kids, I think. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Recently had kids. | ||
| You know, and I think his whole thing about taking a month off was like health, behind-the-scenes stuff, life stuff. | ||
| Debating Laura, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, not traveling to DC to debate someone in the most intense debate you can imagine. | ||
| Yo, I don't know. | ||
| He'll come back on the grid after this and be like, didn't even get the invite. | ||
| I think what'll happen is most of the DeSantis people we reach out to will refuse to do it because it's Laura Loomer. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| As soon as you announced who it was, I was like, oh, there are a bunch of people who are like, no thank you. | ||
| I'm out. | ||
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Later. | |
| And they're gonna go running. | ||
| There's gotta be people that would love to do it because it's Laura Loomer too. | ||
| Hopefully, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, maybe. | ||
| But the thing is, Laura's going to have an encyclopedic knowledge of things. | ||
| I mean, she's like looking into the high school records of the donors. | ||
| She's going to be so intense. | ||
| It's going to be so fun. | ||
| All right, everybody, if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends. | ||
| Head over to TimCast.com, click join us, become a member, so that you can watch the uncensored members-only show. | ||
| We post it on the front page of the website, probably about four or five minutes. | ||
| And we're gonna talk about angels, demons, aliens, and moral philosophy, and what this country needs in terms of religion and spirituality. | ||
| It's gonna be a lot of fun. | ||
| You can follow the show at TimCast IRL, basically everywhere. | ||
| You can follow me personally at TimCast everywhere. | ||
| Follow me on X and Instagram. | ||
| Liz, you wanna shout anything out? | ||
| Oh, I can't call it X. Follow me on Twitter at Liz underscore Wheeler. | ||
| Yes, Twitter. | ||
| Buy my new book. | ||
| It's out in just a couple weeks. | ||
| HideYourChildrenBook.com. | ||
| I think you guys are going to love it. | ||
| Some of you are going to hate it, and I want to hear everybody's thoughts on it. | ||
| So HideYourChildrenBook.com. | ||
| Are you sending it to people for, like, reviews and stuff? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You want a copy? | ||
| Yes, I do. | ||
| I'd be happy to send you one. | ||
| Put one on the table. | ||
| We haven't gotten it yet or I would have brought one. | ||
| I love it when people give me books. | ||
| I'm in. | ||
| But yeah, I'm so glad you're here. | ||
| It's so fun to see you. | ||
| I'm Hannah Clare Brimlow. | ||
| I'm a writer for TimCast.com. | ||
| You should follow at TimCastNews on Twitter and Instagram. | ||
| Maybe you'll see my review of Liz's book. | ||
| And if you want to follow me personally, you can follow me on Twitter at hcbrimlow and on Instagram at hannahclare.b. | ||
| X marks the spot. | ||
| I've been waiting all night, all day. | ||
| Yeah, get it out. | ||
| Work it out. | ||
| Follow me on X at Ian Crossland and anywhere else at Ian Crossland. | ||
| I'm happy to see you, Liz. | ||
| Happy that you guys are listening and being a part of this wild freaking ride, man. | ||
| What a time to be alive. | ||
| I'm glad we got the internet because it's cool to document it as we go. | ||
| See you later. | ||
| Indeed. | ||
| Yeah, Twitter me. | ||
| It's still Twitter on my phone, so tweet me. | ||
| It's better to say argue there than on X. It sounds weird to say let's argue on X. Just, I don't know. | ||
| Anyways, yeah, follow me on Twitter, on Instagram. | ||
| I'm Serge.com. | ||
| See you guys later. | ||
| We will see you all over at TimCast.com in a few minutes. |
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