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July 25, 2023 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Timcast IRL - LeBron's 18 Yr Old Son Bronny James Suffers Cardiac Arrest w/Roseanne & Michael Malice
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tim pool
so the big news today was that LeBron James's 18 year old son suffered a
cardiac or suffered cardiac arrest while while practicing And instantly, on Twitter, vaccine begins trending, and everybody is beginning to debate that conversation, or have that conversation.
People on the left saying, like, oh, it's a conspiracy theory, it's not true.
And people on the right, of course, saying it's time to have that talk.
So, uh, we're gonna talk about what happened with LeBron James.
I really want to talk about experimental medicine, because I recently went and got some technically experimental medicine myself, and there's some interesting conversation to have there.
We also have a bunch of other, uh, really interesting stories.
It was, um, Joe Biden, I guess he accidentally said that we cured cancer or something?
He muttered, we've ended cancer as we know it!
And, uh, you know, it's a big problem when your president mistakes Syria for Libya during military meetings or publicly declares we've ended cancer as we know it when we have not.
But that's the president.
What do you expect?
And then we've got some other interesting stories.
Ron DeSantis has fired a campaign staffer who retweeted A video that had the black sun in it.
Nazi symbol.
So, okay, we'll talk about that one.
Sure, fine, whatever.
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michael malice
Oh, God.
tim pool
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Now, of course, you could already tell that Michael Malice is joining us tonight.
michael malice
Hi, everybody!
tim pool
And he's sitting here.
He ordered pizza.
michael malice
You ordered pizza.
tim pool
Well, I didn't order it.
michael malice
Allison ordered it.
The team, yeah.
tim pool
The team ordered it, but Michael insisted.
He said, I'd like to have a pizza party.
And we said, how do you think you want, Michael?
While you're here, my home is your home.
michael malice
Thank you so much.
tim pool
Who are you?
michael malice
I am Michael Malice.
I am really excited to be back here.
My new book's The White Pill, whitepillbook.com.
Yeah, it's been a minute since our last, we all had that big together, get together in Austin where Alex kind of make it a little go off the rails.
So I thought we'd have another reunion, have a little sedate.
And I had a surprise guest with me and the surprise got a little bit ruined, but I'm excited.
tim pool
I don't think you need to introduce yourself.
I was sitting downstairs at the poker table and Roseanne Barr walks in.
michael malice
No, the whole point was I was supposed to introduce her on air.
It was good. I had this whole fantasy in my head.
But yeah, the, the legend icon and someone who I'm kind of surreal that I'm friends
with this person and takes my calls. Roseanne Barr is here.
roseanne barr
Hi.
tim pool
Good pizza, huh?
roseanne barr
Really good.
tim pool
I don't think you need to introduce yourself. You can if you'd like to.
roseanne barr
Hi!
He already introduced me.
michael malice
I'm happy to be here.
I came to learn from you.
Oh, you want me to go over here?
roseanne barr
You told me not to eat on the mic.
I came to learn from you.
Oh, you want me to go over here?
tim pool
Yeah, grab the mic so people can hear you.
roseanne barr
You told me not to eat on the mic.
tim pool
Well, you're talking, just swallow the pizza and then, you know. Okay.
roseanne barr
Yeah, I wanted to see how you do because I'm doing a podcast now, rosannebar.com
on YouTube and all the usual places.
So I wanted to watch how you do.
You're living large on this podcast stuff.
I love it.
tim pool
Yeah?
roseanne barr
I'm going to learn from you.
tim pool
Oh, I appreciate it.
Yeah, we'll tell you anything you want to know.
roseanne barr
Got a yard full of chickens.
That looks good.
tim pool
We have too many chickens.
We have more.
There's babies in there, and they make more of themselves, is the thing, you know what I mean?
unidentified
You just leave them in there, and you come back, and there's more, and you're like, How many eggs a day you getting?
tim pool
30 maybe?
roseanne barr
Good.
tim pool
Yeah, it's a lot of chickens.
michael malice
This is the top story.
tim pool
It's huge news.
Chicken City is overpopulated.
It smells bad.
michael malice
Oh yeah.
That's all that ammonia.
And does it mess up their feet too?
tim pool
No, they're fine.
It's not that overpopulated.
It rains and stuff and they have the outdoor area.
Well, thank you for joining us.
It's gonna be really fun.
I'm glad you're here.
roseanne barr
I'm glad I'm here, too.
Thanks for inviting me.
michael malice
I am delighted to make stuff like this.
Just in all seriousness, people ask me a lot of times, as many people know, I was a lifelong New Yorker.
I've lived in Austin now for two years.
I am...
Now I know how to drive a car.
I'm getting lessons from Colin Robb, who's a professional race car driver and national indoor skydiving champion.
Follow him on Instagram, Colin, C-O-L-L-I-N-R-O-B-B underscore on Instagram.
Great dude.
Well, and I'm filming it because that'll be funny.
So now I'm at the level of like Asian female in terms of my driving skills.
I can get around.
ian crossland
Step on it.
michael malice
But the thing I miss, people ask me, do you miss New York?
Do you miss New York?
What I missed about New York is that when you go to a party or some get together, you're going to run into cool people who are doing awesome things.
And that kind of vanished.
But that's happening now in Austin.
So to be able to like, sit in a room and here comes Roseanne Barr is just completely surreal.
ian crossland
I gotta hand it to you, man, because you're a big part of that.
It's amazing how you can just manifest.
You put your mind to it before you even move down there.
You're like, I'm going to set up a house where a lot of, I don't know, you didn't say intelligent people, but it's like a kind of erudite, you know, people that enjoy art and reading and things like information.
Man, I went to a party at Michael Malice's house, and I highly recommend it.
If anyone is down there in Austin and you know Michael, that is the place to be.
michael malice
It was a lot of fun.
ian crossland
Very excited to meet the people you know.
Roseanne, you're one of them.
I love you.
tim pool
Also joining us is Phil Labonte.
phil labonte
How you doing?
I am Phil Labonte, lead singer of All That Remains, anti-communist and counter-revolutionary.
unidentified
Nice!
phil labonte
I am excited to be here.
Hi, Roseanne.
unidentified
Hi!
phil labonte
I'm so happy to be here.
michael malice
Ms.
Barr.
phil labonte
I am Ms.
Barr.
unidentified
Ms.
phil labonte
Barr.
Mr. Malice, I thoroughly enjoy your company when you're not pointing your claws at me.
michael malice
Phil's one of my favorite people.
phil labonte
We're ready to go, so... What's up, Ian?
tim pool
Ian's of course here, yeah.
ian crossland
I gave a little sly intro a little bit before Phil.
Sorry about that, homie.
phil labonte
No, don't apologize.
ian crossland
Well, I don't really have anything to bring other than what I already did.
I'm just glad you guys are here, man.
michael malice
And I'm going to point out to the audience that you missed some gold because watching Ian and Roseanne talk about UFOs before we started taping.
tim pool
Yeah, we got a UFO story.
ian crossland
Talking about power sources.
tim pool
We're going to talk about UFOs because apparently some former government intelligence guy came out and said that the U.S.
has off-Earth technology.
unidentified
I am so freaking lucky that I get to see all this shit.
ian crossland
That's what I'm talking about, dude.
tim pool
All right, we also got Kellan mashing all the buttons.
unidentified
Yeah, I'm filling in again for Search Tonight.
What's up, everybody?
I'm Kellan.
Ian, I loved to see your Xs today.
You're really Xing like crazy.
It's always good to see it.
ian crossland
I'll X harder.
unidentified
Rock on.
ian crossland
So you guys know Twitter is rebranded now to X. So everyone's been Xing.
Hopefully keep their due diligence.
phil labonte
Why isn't it expressing?
ian crossland
Express.
tim pool
Express.
Right?
I mean, just, I think ex is dumb.
I don't care what they call it.
ian crossland
The problem with express is it's two syllables and you need like one syllable word for it.
unidentified
All right.
roseanne barr
I don't know why he changed it.
I went and got this tattoo on my arm about three years ago.
It's the Twitter bird, you know, cause I said, well, this, I said, well, someday real quick, this was three years ago.
I says that people are going to own Twitter.
Because I can see it coming, you know?
Now this is no damn good.
I gotta put an X to it.
tim pool
Oh, even better.
Well, let's jump into the news.
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Here's the big story.
This is crazy.
It's from Yahoo.
briny james lebron james eighteen-year-old son suffered cardiac arrest
unidentified
How old?
tim pool
his need you need to know uh... i mean that's basically the story he was on the use
he was practicing he had a card here cardiac uh... it cardiac arrest was
rushed to the hospital's very serious
is in stable condition he survived the big news however i'll old
eighteen the biggest side of that is that uh...
you lot of brian here's the daily mail Bronny James cardiac arrest is linked to the COVID-19 vaccine Elon Musk suggests, saying,
Musk wrote, Myocarditis is a known side effect.
The only question is whether it is rare or common.
Musk's tweet continued.
I will just say this as I always start videos like this.
Talk to your doctor about what's right for you.
Find trusted medical professionals.
A lot of people don't trust the medical system, but there are people out there who are good medical professionals you can trust.
Just do the work.
And the CDC says that it is rare.
Myocarditis.
I wonder what you guys think about this whole Can I say one thing?
michael malice
I'm going to put my tinfoil hat on with this issue.
It seems to me that one of the big stresses where the demand was to get everyone as vaccinated as possible was to socialize risk.
Because if everyone's invested, and if bad things start to happen, we're all in this together.
Whereas if you have one population, and that population has consequences, then it's like, okay, it's happening to them.
It's now, there's going to be a hell to pay.
Now it's like, okay, wait, wait, you guys screwed up, you know, people in Florida, you guys screwed up, maybe young people, whatever.
If it's everybody, then it's kind of like you can't, it's like, that's how corporate systems work, bureaucracies work.
If you distribute the consequences, then really no one's to blame.
tim pool
But that also created the perception of risk itself.
So I'll say a few things.
The CDC says that myocarditis is a rare side effect from the mRNA vaccine specifically.
This is the CDC saying it.
Don't take my word for it.
And myocarditis is listed as a cause, sometimes a cause, of cardiac arrest in young athletic males.
That would easily mean that sometimes people who get the COVID vaccine may suffer myocarditis, and that may result in cardiac arrest.
I believe it's extremely rare.
However, we gave out, as of October, that was the latest number I could find, 637 or some ridiculous number of vaccine doses.
You give out that many, let's say it's one in a million people who will get myocarditis, you're going to have 600 and some odd cases of myocarditis, then you're going to hear a bunch of stories in the news, and people are going to assume many stories means it's happening all the time, when actually the same percentage of people are suffering a rare side effect.
roseanne barr
If you really were going to have some trust in statistics, you would hope they would have used a control group in the quote-unquote science, which they didn't.
So we don't really know how many people, and plus I don't trust their numbers anyway, but I think that what happened to him is that global warming got him.
tim pool
Oh yeah, that's a good point.
michael malice
Or white supremacy.
tim pool
No, hold on!
Both very big issues, but where are they at?
It was 120 degrees in Las Vegas, so he was so hot, his heart was going crazy pumping the heat.
Actually, in all seriousness though, when you're really hot, your heart pumps your blood like crazy to move the heat through your body.
phil labonte
But he was hot, and then he saw some dudes from Saudi Arabia in the traditional garb, thought it was KKK members, had a heart attack.
roseanne barr
We're all joking, but the thing is... No, but if you've ever been in that Las Vegas heat, I mean, I about had myocarditis when I was there like about five years ago, just walking outside to the cab.
michael malice
Yeah, but you were a senior citizen, you know what I mean?
He's like an 18-year-old athlete.
But the other thing is, why they're being disingenuous is they're saying it's rare.
Death from COVID is rare.
It was like 1%, even if it's 1%, if something happens to 1% of the people, that's rare.
And murder, I think, American is 330 million people and there's like 20,000 murders.
So that's statistically irrelevant.
It's rare, but are we going to pretend murder doesn't matter?
So that word is kind of a weasel word.
It could mean what you're saying, or it could mean that it's doubling what it should have been, but that's still rare and we should care about it.
roseanne barr
Well, when it comes to the CDC, though, one thing that I find interesting, and you know I wear a permanent Tinfoil hat.
You know that, baby.
Because I'm 70, I don't believe anything anybody tells me.
But, you know, the permanent thing they say is to really check out what these undertakers are saying.
how the death rate went up and what population for the undertakers know it.
And they say it's through the roof of people, you know, and insurance companies say it too.
Their stuff went up 100, you know, million points.
tim pool
But that could be COVID.
michael malice
But I don't believe...
roseanne barr
No, it's people dying from myoconduct, whatever you say.
michael malice
Here's the thing, I don't believe that five years ago that there were enough news articles of young athletes getting myocarditis and possibly dying.
I don't think this was a thing.
roseanne barr
Well, they was dropping it all over the place on soccer fields in South America.
michael malice
That's what I'm saying, but I'm saying five years, if they're trying to make it out this as none of the vaccines, I don't think, and it's just, we're just noticing it now, I don't think there would have been enough to notice five years ago.
tim pool
Here's my question.
Why is the immediate assumption it's vaccines and not that it was COVID?
So we know that myocarditis, COVID does cause myocarditis.
michael malice
Okay.
tim pool
And we know that- That's true.
The alpha strain was brutal, was super brutal.
And then over time, as it started to mutate, it became less and less serious, the various strains, Omicron, whatever.
So the first strains were nuts.
So we see these documentaries like, what was that one where they're pulling the clots out of the body?
Oh yeah.
ian crossland
Was that died suddenly?
tim pool
Died suddenly.
I saw that and I said, could COVID be doing this?
And the weird thing to me about it is you've got this conspiracy theory, and I'm not saying that to be disparaging to people who don't trust big pharma.
The idea being that these vaccines may be causing blood clots.
They call it the clot shot and stuff like that.
And I'm like, here's a conspiracy theory.
COVID was manufactured through gain of function research.
Doc Fauci funded it.
It was made in the lab.
It leaked and is causing extreme reactions that we're seeing, which results in blood clots and myocarditis.
roseanne barr
True.
tim pool
What about that conspiracy theory?
roseanne barr
Right, I'll accept that one.
tim pool
That's what I'm saying.
michael malice
I mean, I think also to your point, it's kind of telling that you're now in a position to make that question on air and not be shut down completely and totally.
Now, there's two possibilities.
One, people push back enough, they're like, okay, or that there's enough data that what you're just asking about can no longer just be pretended to be just tinfoil hat nonsense.
roseanne barr
Well, it's proven.
tim pool
It's fact.
One thing that a lot of the liberals brought up in counter to, you know, vaccine starts trending when Brownie James has this news breaks, and a bunch of liberals are like, hey, COVID causes myocarditis.
And it does.
And it did.
Like, well before the vaccines, we were seeing it.
I don't know if there's enough news stories.
michael malice
But I don't feel like it would cause it in young people and young athletes.
It might cause it in someone who's older and weaker already.
But like, the whole thing with COVID is it's not targeting young people.
And in fact, children almost- Well, we don't know that.
Well, we know in terms of the death rates and things like that.
tim pool
Well, but death rates not the same as transmission.
ian crossland
I could see like... Sure.
roseanne barr
I read a study that said that a lot of infants, you know, that are born dead.
I can't remember the word for it.
tim pool
Stillborn.
roseanne barr
Stillborn.
They have heart issues in, you know, from month to month.
michael malice
In utero?
roseanne barr
Yeah.
michael malice
So we don't know if that's the I had Count Dankula on my show and he was talking about the rates of stillbirth and miscarriage in Scotland was like through the roof.
I'm just saying the thing is it's not nothing.
The whole point is that the argument is this isn't really happening or just noticing it.
Just because you can't think of the cause doesn't mean the consequence is not occurring.
roseanne barr
But we should be open to discussing and using scientific method rather than getting in big fistfights over it's this or that.
We should be open to finding out what the hell is.
michael malice
And I don't think it's a partisan issue.
I don't think it is either.
I mean, this has nothing to do with Republicans.
roseanne barr
But they make everything into a partisan fight.
tim pool
Democrat governors put COVID patients in nursing homes and killed elderly people.
roseanne barr
They were warned it would happen.
They definitely killed the old people, definitely.
tim pool
Cuomo was warned explicitly. The Javits Center and the Comfort were available for housing sick people,
and he was like, yeah, put them in nursing homes. And they said, if you do that,
elderly people will contract COVID, they will die. He did it anyway. And then you had to do
ian crossland
some of that. He must have done a calculated risk, like if we don't do it, this many people could
die. If we do do it, less people will die. Javits Center.
tim pool
It wasn't even at capacity.
unidentified
It was it was They converted it into a hospital.
roseanne barr
I've heard this, I don't know that it's fact, but I've seen it reported as fact, that hospitals did get a payoff for every death that they listed as a morbid death.
tim pool
Here's what I want to say about You know, we have this debate over, like, DeSantis and Trump, and this conversation comes up, and people often point to, you know, Trump was buddy-buddy with Fauci, and Trump did Operation Warp Speed.
And I just wanna say, you know, look, I like experimental medicine.
unidentified
A lot.
tim pool
Trump was in favor of right to try.
It's a good thing.
Government mandates are a bad thing.
corporations mandating people get a medication and the government
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
through circuitous methods or direct methods forcing it is the problem.
Trump funding whatever I'm like if I'm not forced into anything
I don't really care right I mean fine whatever I don't like the big
pharmaceuticals, massive multinational corporations but I recently just went to Tijuana and got a pre-mental
medication to treat my my damaged hip and it helped me out greatly but I chose it.
So, yeah, I don't like the, you know, my view is not to rag on Trump because he funded experiments.
It's to rag on the politicians and the executives who are forcing people to get medicated.
phil labonte
Is it just me or does it seem like people criticize Trump?
For not being a libertarian, even though they're not libertarians.
Like, to think that Trump wouldn't want the government to do something would be really kind of ridiculous in my opinion because Donald Trump's not a small government kind of guy.
He was never that kind of dude.
He knew how to work the government in New York to, you know, be able to get At least some buildings built and stuff.
So the idea that Donald Trump needs to be held accountable in the way that you would hold a libertarian accountable seems off to me.
michael malice
I think they're more trying to hold him accountable for trusting people that he should have known are nefarious.
phil labonte
Fair.
michael malice
That's the issue, I think.
I can't speak for Trump supporters.
roseanne barr
Well, who else was he going to trust?
It's not like there was anybody decent to choose from.
Hello?
unidentified
Hello?
roseanne barr
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, he brought on Bolton.
I think that was because one of his donors wanted him to bring on John Bolton, and then Bolton stabs in the back.
michael malice
Yeah.
tim pool
Trump brought on so many dumb people.
roseanne barr
Like Fauci, though, is the dumbest guy.
I mean, Fauci is the most wrong guy.
Remember with AIDS?
Fauci, remember back then?
tim pool
Well, I don't remember it, but I've read a lot about it since then.
michael malice
Oh, because you're not that old.
roseanne barr
I do, and my brother's gay, you know, and I remember when AIDS was the big thing, and voucher was the problem then, too.
michael malice
Yeah, I just finished watching this superb miniseries from back in the day called Angels in America about the AIDS crisis in New York.
And I think this I might write even write a book about at some point because I think people have forgotten how dark it was and it was a joke because it was happening to them and like ha ha and it was it's really if you look back it was extremely disturbing how this population was treated and and like I just also applauded.
ian crossland
I heard a conspiracy theory about the MMR vaccine 1980 they established and they distribute a mass distribution of the MMR vaccine some new vaccine and it was this is the conspiracy theories that it was tainted with HIV.
roseanne barr
Right I heard that.
ian crossland
A lot of people got it, but most people were able to fight it off.
It was the people doing poppers and partying till 5 a.m.
that got really sick, and then they were like, gay!
unidentified
It's the gay!
ian crossland
And it's like, no, it's because their bodies were weakened.
tim pool
But we don't need that conspiracy, because we know that Bayer had tainted hemophilia medication.
That's historically fact.
roseanne barr
Well, have you heard of Celia Farber?
She's a great journalist, and she, back in the 90s when I was on my show, she brought me evidence She's a prize-winning journalist, and she had traced it back to the Salk vaccine.
The place in Africa where they tested on those children, the Salk and the Sabin polio vaccine, is the same place where AIDS originated.
tim pool
You know, this is a... it's like a dangerous YouTube subject either way, because I don't...
I'm not inclined to immediately say that vaccines caused whatever.
There's so many conspiracy theories about all this medication.
roseanne barr
No, but I'm just saying, like, experimenting on a captive population is always bad.
You know, you can't do that.
tim pool
So I just watched Bohemian Rhapsody, the movie.
Queen, such an amazing band.
Bohemian Rhapsy, is it the greatest song of all time?
Yes, absolutely.
michael malice
We built this city as the greatest song of all time.
ian crossland
That's a good song.
roseanne barr
No, he was the greatest singer ever, Freddie Mercury.
michael malice
You think so?
He's your favorite?
tim pool
Yeah.
Queen is so good.
Especially after watching that movie, I'm listening to all their songs again, after all this time, and I'm like, eclectic.
michael malice
Yes, that's the thing about them, yeah.
roseanne barr
Poetic, harmonious.
tim pool
Operatic.
Just so amazing.
michael malice
And groundbreaking.
tim pool
This may be a little crass, but I love Don't Stop Me Now.
But every time I listen to that, I'm like, you know, on second thought, someone should have stopped that guy.
michael malice
Oh, God, Tim, that's a Michael Malice joke.
unidentified
Lord.
tim pool
What I'm not saying to be mean.
I'm not saying it as a joke.
I literally... People should have been like... Someone should have at least moderated him.
phil labonte
Stop him.
roseanne barr
But that wasn't the time.
You pumped the brakes.
tim pool
But but but it's it's your your Michael's over.
He's very laughing.
He likes it, but I'm not saying it's a joke I'm saying it this guy was doing drugs.
He was partying non-stop all the time that destroys his immune system He contracts his contracts HIV, and I'm just like oh It's such a brutal thing, but my point is, when it comes to these conspiracy theories about what really happened, I'm like, these stories are all people who, as Ian pointed out, are doing a bunch of drugs all the time.
phil labonte
Rock and roll happening.
tim pool
They're having tons of sex all the time.
Of course they're contracting STDs.
michael malice
We have actually a control group for this, because we have someone here who had that level of fame.
So when you were at the top of your power, how would someone have put you in check if they wanted to?
Because when you're like Freddie Mercury level, I feel like no one can tell you anything.
roseanne barr
You're damn right.
If they try, you're out of there.
You're not gonna tell me.
I made this money, this is my money, and I'll do with it as I choose.
And that's how it is.
And most people, like, they end up dead.
That is the truth.
michael malice
No, I hear you, but I'm just saying it's interesting we can actually talk to someone of that level of fame.
roseanne barr
I wouldn't be stopped.
I wouldn't let nobody stop me.
tim pool
Right, right.
But my point is not that he could have been stopped.
My point is, how does this disease come about?
Because these people can't be stopped.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
These celebrities, ultra rock stars, promiscuous... They don't want to stop.
roseanne barr
It's a big suicidal trip.
It's like, hey, you've reached the peak and you've done everything there is to do.
You don't want to downslide now.
You're not going back.
You're going out.
michael malice
Yeah.
tim pool
I want to bring up, so it is a dark story to talk about.
I mean, no disrespect, it's a terrible story, but we do talk about this great new, there's a great stride has been taken, is underway.
Joe Biden has cured cancer.
We have this from the post-millennial Joe Biden breaking.
He claims we ended cancer as we know it.
The real story, because I'm not here to bury the lead or manipulate you, is that Biden mumbled what sounded like we ended cancer as we know it, seemingly on accident, and I just find it I don't do anything at all, Joe.
unidentified
What would you do?
I said I'd cure cancer.
They looked at me like, why cancer?
Because no one thinks we can.
That's why.
And we can.
And the cancer is we know it.
phil labonte
Never mind the dead.
michael malice
Should he try to cure drug addiction?
ian crossland
Did it cure drug addiction too?
phil labonte
Should that be the one?
michael malice
The clip...
It's a little late for a bow, huh?
tim pool
I gotta say to the post-millennial, post-millennial, do not clip the audio right after a word
is spoken while he's still speaking.
Because that diminishes the veracity of making this claim.
For all we know, he said, we ended cancer as we know it.
What I mean to say is we can end cancer as we know it, but you cut him off and now we don't know the context.
michael malice
But I'll give you some more context if you look this up.
During the campaign, the 2020 campaign, he explicitly said, when I'm elected, we will cure cancer.
ian crossland
Yes.
unidentified
He did?
michael malice
did. Yes. Yeah, he did. But he but if you look at the whole context, it was like, we're not going
to stop until we put enough resources to solve this. So it was out of context, the sentence
like sounds crazy. And I'm sure that's what it's a throwback for him. By the way, I had this tweet.
roseanne barr
And I think you maybe that's what all those bio labs in the Ukraine are for is to come up with
care for cancer. Who knows?
ian crossland
And to confirm what you're saying, it was in Ottumwa, Iowa, June 11th, 2019, Biden said he would, quote, cure cancer.
michael malice
The other thing that I'm really excited about is if it's Trump-Biden as the two candidates, it will be literally impossible to convince Joe Biden that he's not living in 2020.
Literally.
ian crossland
That's what I wondered about what he said here.
I think what he meant to say was, we're gonna cure cancer as we know it, but he said it in the present tense.
michael malice
Yes.
tim pool
He's done... Okay, so this is not the worst thing he's done.
There was the famous story where he kept saying Libya instead of Syria, and it's kind of a big deal if the president, commander-in-chief, is speaking to the armed forces.
He was speaking at the UN or whatever.
But imagine he goes to a meeting in the Situation Room and he's like, we gotta bomb Libya!
And they're like, Are you sure?
It's like, yeah, just get him out of there.
unidentified
Just do it.
tim pool
And it's like, well, OK, I guess.
And it's like breaking news the next day, New York Times, U.S.
declares war on Libya.
And we're like, why?
michael malice
We did that already, though.
tim pool
Technically, France did it for us.
ian crossland
If he was like, instead of saying we got to send troops and he's talking to his generals, we got to send troops.
And he says troops are in.
The generals would be like, what?
They're already in?
Because he's speaking in the president's head.
michael malice
But do you know what's really funny is that there was a lot of talk like this when Trump
was in office and people on the left, Democrats, were freaking out like they think Trump's
an idiot and I can't believe this guy's commander- He's gonna cause a war.
Yeah, this guy's commander in chief.
But I don't think Republicans have that fear about Biden because there's really an understanding
that he's not running anything.
So he's like saying all these things and everyone's just like, yeah, who cares?
We know he's not running the military.
unidentified
100%.
phil labonte
It's never Joe Biden actually calling the shots.
He's definitely got handlers that are telling him what to say.
He admits it at the podium constantly.
Things, they'll get mad at me.
They want me to say this.
He tells people all the time.
michael malice
And that's been his career.
That's why he got the nomination.
He's a team player.
He's a party hack.
tim pool
I agree and disagree.
I think it's true he has AIDS.
michael malice
Good news, Jack!
Good news, Jack!
tim pool
Joe Biden has White House aides who tell him, his staff members, what to say and who to call upon and things like this, and he says they're gonna get mad.
People assume that means there's like a CIA puppet master pulling strings, when it could just be that Biden has staff members who get angry when he asks them for help, they give him help, and then he doesn't do what they say.
It doesn't mean that he's literally being told he has to do things.
I think it's a combination of the two.
I think he does just go with the flow and is told to do things, but then he also just does things himself, and that creates chaos.
michael malice
I also think that Trump, in many ways, is similar to Trump, because Trump very clearly seemed to not be a big picture, was a big picture guy, and wasn't worried about the minutiae, and it seemed very clear.
He's like, okay, I trust you.
Because when you're running like a Trump organization, hotel organization, you're not looking at the hotel in Atlanta or the hotel in New York.
You have someone you trust, they're there, and you delegate it.
So, you know, that's kind of, I'm sure that was the situation during his presidency.
I don't know.
I don't even think this Biden is the other Biden.
You don't look nothing like the original Biden.
of people to staff and then they're just going rogue.
roseanne barr
Yeah, and bragging about it.
I don't know.
I don't even think this Biden is the other Biden.
You don't look nothing like the original Biden.
michael malice
Neither do you.
roseanne barr
Well, that's true.
unidentified
Look who's talking.
michael malice
Is that what it is?
roseanne barr
Yeah, that's true.
tim pool
He got plastic surgery.
That's the funniest thing.
roseanne barr
Is that what it is?
michael malice
Yeah, he got hair plugs for sure.
And he got lifts for some reason.
I'm pretty sure he got a facelift.
Oh yeah, he's got a lift for sure.
roseanne barr
But it's not, I mean, the old Biden has a much squarer face.
tim pool
Yeah, well, they pull your flesh back, you know?
roseanne barr
Well, I've had that, so I know that.
But still, his cheekbones were much wider.
michael malice
Are you the original Joe Biden?
Is that what you're trying to tell us?
roseanne barr
I think he's being portrayed by an actor.
I do.
I think he's wearing a mask and he's being portrayed by an actor.
tim pool
Did you guys see the Jamie Foxx video?
michael malice
No.
tim pool
Jamie Foxx put out a video and he's like, hey guys, you know, I'm alright.
And then everyone started showing these celebrity headshot pictures of his face alongside his cell phone video where he's pale.
And it's really simple.
It's the width of the camera lens.
So, Google this YouTube video, camera lens distortion face, and you can see a guy's face changing shape based on the camera lens.
michael malice
Wait, hold on.
tim pool
I gotta ask.
roseanne barr
Roseanne.
Monique says they cloned him.
michael malice
Let me ask you this, Roseanne.
You've been in Hollywood for decades.
If you're gonna have an actor who's going to play Joe Biden, wouldn't you have an actor who knows how to deliver the lines?
roseanne barr
Well, they told him to act like he's got the Alzheimer's.
michael malice
Why would you do that?
When you want an actor who acts like he doesn't have the Alzheimer's?
roseanne barr
No, because it's all a show.
It's all a show for the American people.
tim pool
I mean, it's a bit too much.
michael malice
Now that's a sitcom I would like.
roseanne barr
It's true.
It's true, because people have to see how it works.
Look at it, it's the Sopranos.
Why is nobody seeing what's going on?
It's the new Sopranos with the Biden family.
michael malice
I think you should bring back the Golden Girls and have them all.
tim pool
Here's what I think is funny.
When it comes to that they show a picture of Biden next to an older picture of Biden says by Dan or whatever.
And they're like, by Dan versus Biden, like, like Biden right now is actually by Dan, they call him.
And it's and it's like, they're they point to his ears being with the Pope.
Right.
But I'm like, okay, dude, he got a facelift.
roseanne barr
Yeah, they saw your ears down.
unidentified
They do.
roseanne barr
Because one of my ears is different.
Did you see when he was scratching the back of his head in the mask?
unidentified
It's his skin!
tim pool
It's his loose old skin!
No, it was way too much skin.
different camera lens, man.
Like, there's a bunch of different photos of different people.
roseanne barr
Here's a- Did you see the one he was scratching the back of his head
in the mask?
It's not- Did you see-
It's his skin!
tim pool
It's his loose old skin!
roseanne barr
Now it was way too much skin.
I don't know.
I think it's Jim Carrey playing it.
It could be Jim Carrey.
unidentified
Nobody can fall at the stairs like Jim Carrey.
tim pool
It's Wonder Years.
Fred Savage.
michael malice
And the other guy became Marilyn Manson.
tim pool
Did you ever see that Family Guy episode?
Where Rush Limbaugh was actually Fred Savage?
And he's also Michael Moore?
And he's like, you know, after the Wonder Years, acting dried up, but he had this thirst to act, so he just became all of these personalities.
michael malice
What about this conspiracy theory that it was Barron running Trump's Twitter?
Because no 70-year-old senior citizen could be that much of a great shit poster.
It's gotta be this kid.
tim pool
Or that Steve Bannon is Barron from the future.
michael malice
Oh, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Uh, anyway, what were we talking about, Joe Biden?
ian crossland
How someone's acting for Biden, uh, acting as Biden, because... No, it's Biden.
That's why... That's why he speaks like that, because you just can't hit it out of the park, so you've got to pick something that's off and just go commit to it.
tim pool
No, come on, like, Joe Biden got a bunch of surgery, he got plastic surgery, he got his hair done.
ian crossland
It's really disturbing.
Hillary Clinton did too.
tim pool
He's falling apart, he's got plates in his brain, he can barely talk.
It's like, he's just, he's just losing it.
roseanne barr
What, he's just a placeholder, is that what you think?
tim pool
Yeah, that was, um, what magazine was it?
Atlantic?
michael malice
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
2020 election, they said.
michael malice
Time, wasn't it?
With the conspiracy?
No, no, no.
tim pool
Atlantic said, stay alive, Joe Biden.
All you need is your corporeal form.
michael malice
Yeah.
tim pool
They were outright saying, we just need a guy who can get votes.
michael malice
But for four years, it was pretty clear during the Trump presidency that the president has far less powers than we are told.
And it was a complaint of his that it's like, the government's running itself and I'm not there.
They're bragging about how they kind of, you know, the end runs about him.
And the press was cheering it on, like, especially with the like, Oh, what do you mean?
tim pool
Cheering on the idea that for the first time in my lifetime, the president had his authority rescinded and revoked.
Now, there's bad things to that in terms of what Trump want to do, like ending war.
But the idea that the president all of a sudden was being curtailed, I was like, wow, that's a first.
roseanne barr
Well, yeah, because that's a disruption of our whole constitutional republic.
michael malice
But what were they lying about?
roseanne barr
They tried to destroy the executive branch and bring up, you know... Was it destroying it or was it just demonstrating how it really works?
No, they tried to disrupt the whole balance of power in our government.
tim pool
They said before Trump even was inaugurated they were going to impeach him.
Yeah.
Now we have, I covered this this morning, Kevin McCarthy announces a strongly worded letter to be sent.
michael malice
After Rand Paul sent a strongly worded letter.
A second one.
tim pool
About Fauci.
michael malice
About time.
The second one, uh oh, there's a third one, three strikes and nothing happens.
But I told you, I tweeted at Rand Paul that he should ask Fauci for a cure for his impotence.
Because it's insane how these Republicans—Chuck Grassley is another one.
Chuck Grassley was the ranking member of the House—of the Senate, excuse me, District Committee.
He wrote letters to the DOJ—this is the Trump DOJ—about Julie Swetnick.
I'm like, this woman's lying brazenly in front of Congress.
He doesn't get a call returned, writes another letter a year later, doesn't get a call returned, sends out a press release.
So the Republicans are bragging that they can't even get a call return.
This is something to be cringing and embarrassing about instead of telling your voters.
It's disgusting.
tim pool
So McCarthy announces a potential that this may lead to an impeachment inquiry.
Oh wow, not even an impeachment!
An inquiry into a maybe impeachment later.
michael malice
Click on this link and send me money.
That's how it works.
roseanne barr
It's just a total con job.
tim pool
Yep.
roseanne barr
They're both in on it.
All of them are in on it.
All of them.
tim pool
Well, let's, uh, let's, let's, there's, there's times they are changing because we have an election coming up.
Let's jump to this story from NBC News.
Uh, okay.
Ron DeSantis fires staffer who retweeted video with Nazi imagery.
So, um, they say Nate Hockman, a communications staffer over the weekend, promoted and then deleted a video that superimposed a Sonnenrad over the candidate's face.
I believe that's called the Black Son.
michael malice
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
Uh, so this video is super cringe.
It's got Kate Bush playing in the background.
It's one of those meme videos.
michael malice
You're not calling her cringe, are you?
Because Kate Bush is the shit.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
It's a good son.
So it's this video, it's like Trump is cringe.
roseanne barr
She's got an irritating voice.
michael malice
Hey, look who's talking.
roseanne barr
I know that was a joke, fool.
michael malice
Then how come no one laughed?
roseanne barr
Because nobody gets me.
michael malice
Hey, someone put a laugh track for Roseanne so she feels more at home.
unidentified
I never use a laugh track.
michael malice
Live studio audience.
Hey, I'm not scared of you anymore.
I used to be really scared of her, but then I saw she's really sweet.
Yeah, that's right.
I ruined your secret.
roseanne barr
But that's disturbing.
tim pool
Well, so, when I first heard this, someone, like a pro-Trump kind of person, was like, a DeSantis campaign staffer just retweeted this.
I saw it, Phil, you retweeted it, you were like, this looks like intentional sabotage or something.
phil labonte
Yeah, it looked like something that someone would do if they were looking to harm the Ron DeSantis campaign.
tim pool
That's why I don't believe it!
I'm like, certainly this is a Trump supporter trying to make it look like DeSantis did something wrong, but Firing the guy was the right move.
phil labonte
That was probably a good move.
tim pool
They don't have the video on here though.
roseanne barr
I think that the Santas role in this movie is he's playing the heel for Trump.
That's what I think.
I think it's all a movie and it's all to, you know, get people to actually have some awareness of what's right in front of their damn face and wake up to it.
And yeah, I think he's playing the heel because the, you know, people that don't want to vote Democrat no more, They're going either independent or they're actually thinking, I'll go a little bit further.
unidentified
Shoot.
roseanne barr
And maybe I'll vote DeSantis, but then they're like, whoa, he's even more far right than Trump.
So then they're going to look at Trump.
tim pool
Should I play the video so people can see what we're talking about?
Yeah.
I want to point out, too, people said that whoever made it had something against me because the guy's wearing a beanie with the gray brim.
michael malice
Oh my, it's a Wojak.
tim pool
I know it's a Wojak.
I'm not going to play the audio because it's just Kate Bush and I don't want to get it copyrighted.
Dear Republicans, your favorite president.
It's basically, he's like sad and smoking and he's wearing a beanie and he's got, and Trump's waving an LGBT flag.
I'll just jump through it, you don't need to watch the whole thing.
Then it like, shows DeSantis.
Oh, you know what?
I gotta show the super cringe part.
When he appears in the door like, what, what is this?
Look at him.
And then he's like wearing a, oh now the Wojake is happy and he's like, oh look it's Ron DeSantis' spaceships and women in bikinis.
Life is good.
michael malice
This is so many levels of irony, it's hard to figure out if it's earnest or not.
tim pool
That's why I'm like, I don't believe they actually made this, because it's so cringe, but it's the end where the Nazis are marching towards the Sonnenrad with the Santas in the middle, where I was like, okay!
unidentified
There's no way this is from his campaign!
phil labonte
If you know what the imagery is, it's very jarring to be like, oh!
Oh, that's where you're going!
tim pool
I gotta be honest, my eyes started laughing.
phil labonte
Yeah, I did too!
I mean, it's hilarious!
tim pool
I was like, what is this?
The whole thing is ridiculous.
Here we go, look.
unidentified
Oh, wow!
The way you described it, I thought, oh, it's in the background, the guy didn't notice it.
phil labonte
No, it's like jarring!
tim pool
It's spinning around!
roseanne barr
Well, the gays do not like DeSantis over what's happening with Disney down there.
The gays hate him and so they're doing this.
tim pool
Yeah, but this was retweeted by his campaign staff.
michael malice
So, when I first- Actually, on the staff, not just the supporter?
tim pool
No, it was his- Look, look, this is the story.
roseanne barr
Holy crap!
tim pool
Cryer's staff were retweeted video with Nazi imagery.
Did he?
michael malice
I'm sorry, even if that Nazi imagery wasn't there, you do not retweet this video because it makes DeSantis look like a tool.
tim pool
Oh, this is the DeSantis campaign.
michael malice
I don't understand how someone had this tweet that you probably know who I referred to, I forgot the guy's name, and he goes like, uh, 2020, DeSantis is the greatest government in America, 2021, 2022, 2023, like, DeSantis is terrible.
Like, it flipped on a dime!
roseanne barr
Well, because he got, he got, remember, What DeSantis took measurements against, I mean, he took measures against the LGBTQ plus community in Florida and Disney and they didn't like that.
And then remember just like two weeks ago, Trump had the big pro LGBTQ party at Mar-a-Lago.
phil labonte
DeSantis is attacking from the right.
michael malice
What I meant is I'm surprised how the Republicans all flipped overnight to hating DeSantis.
It was so weird.
tim pool
And I'm not surprised for two reasons.
The first attack against DeSantis was disloyalty.
michael malice
Which makes sense.
tim pool
And then DeSantis decides he's gonna go to a bunch of big neocon donors, established Republican donors, to run against Trump.
It's like, you know, kicking Trump in the butt.
roseanne barr
And he did it because He wanted to go even more right, getting rid of gay stuff, which some, you know, a lot of parents think was the right thing to do.
But then, you know, he brings in Soros as a backer, so it's like… I don't think that's true.
michael malice
He didn't bring in Soros as a backer.
roseanne barr
He takes Soros money.
michael malice
I don't think he does.
roseanne barr
No, that's a complete… I read that in two or three sources.
michael malice
You just said 20 minutes ago that you don't believe all that stuff.
That's not true.
roseanne barr
Well, I read it in two or three sources.
Okay, so that might not be true.
tim pool
And they lied, claiming that Soros endorsed DeSantis, which is not true either.
I don't trust anything that...
roseanne barr
You know, I want to say this correctly, but anything that has to do with children's school books and being pro-child pornography in the schools, I'm not for that, okay?
And I'm not for anything that George Soros is for.
michael malice
Yes, amen.
And we're both saying this is Jewish people, by the way.
tim pool
I'll tell you what this may be.
Here's what I thought.
When the DeSantis supporters started zealously insulting me... Did they really?
Oh, it's relentless.
But it's not like... I don't... I get attacked by everybody on Twitter, right?
But they act very much like Antifa-style leftists on Twitter.
roseanne barr
Yes, they do.
tim pool
Tweet in the very same way.
And so at first I thought, these people are trying to sink DeSantis by false flagging him.
Pretend to be a DeSantis supporter.
Like, you see a lot of these accounts that pretend to be Democrats and say stupid things.
People fall for it.
And then it was the Santas' own campaign staff that started insulting me.
michael malice
Do they really?
unidentified
Like who?
tim pool
Yeah, well, I would, I would, I would talk to communications people. Right. Okay. I know them. Okay. Yeah,
they're, they're miserable at their jobs. And so without naming, I don't want to, I don't want to get people dragged
and then get them mobbed or whatever. But there's a handful of high profile conservative pundits who were pro DeSantis
all last year. And now will are outspoken against them.
Because these, these staffers, supporters and surrogates on Twitter are the most vile people.
Not all of them, not every single one.
Of course, there are a lot of good people.
I have friends who are big... Some very fine people.
Very fine people!
And some I think are very fine people.
But even when I've defended DeSantis, I get attacked for it.
And then I get these same people who have insulted me demanding that I cover their stories in defense of DeSantis tweeting at me, and I'm just like, you people are despicable.
So I'm just like, I'm not having it.
You know that video?
That LGBT video that was retweeted by the DeSantis War Room?
That was made by the DeSantis campaign.
They passed it off to a third party to make it seem like they didn't make it, but they did.
roseanne barr
That's why I think it's COINTELPRO, the whole thing.
tim pool
DeSantis' campaign?
roseanne barr
Yeah.
unidentified
Wow.
roseanne barr
I think he's playing the heel.
michael malice
Something is not adding up because the biggest criticism of Trump, even from Trump supporters, is he didn't deliver the goods.
And in his defense, you know, he lost the House, you know, he only had like 50 senators to begin with and whatever.
And the argument is, well, DeSantis did in Florida.
The fact that he's like overnight become like a joke and like Jeb Bush, like I've never seen any politician's fortunes flip so quickly in my lifetime.
But Howard Dean had a raw deal, right?
We could point to something specific.
tim pool
And I can point to something specific with Ron DeSantis.
roseanne barr
What?
tim pool
I'm leading the great American comeback.
That was his campaign announcement.
That moment was like a bang!
And all of a sudden people were like, wow.
ian crossland
I think you're right though, Roseanne.
Or at least you're saying something interesting in that he went hard against Disney, which is like one of the most powerful corporations on earth.
roseanne barr
And then he capitulated.
ian crossland
And then Disney never really said anything about it publicly.
roseanne barr
Oh yes they did.
michael malice
Oh yes they did.
roseanne barr
What's her name?
Sunny Hoyson on The View?
michael malice
Yeah.
roseanne barr
She says she drives down the street in Florida screaming, gay, gay, gay, out the window.
Oh yeah, they came hard.
unidentified
Well, maybe she means she's a homophobe.
roseanne barr
Disney came hard for him.
Yes.
And he capitulated.
He didn't stand up against Disney at the very end.
He totally capitulated.
ian crossland
At some point, they said, Disney made a statement like, we don't want, we kind of want to bury the hatchet.
We don't want to push this any harder.
roseanne barr
They buried the hatchet by giving Disney everything they wanted.
michael malice
They buried the hatchet in him.
ian crossland
Interesting in his campaign. We're in the age of psychological operations right now
So to think this just to pretend like it's another year another election year. It's like no, no, dude
We have deepfakes AI and like massive manipulation in the back and some people could be twisting this guy's campaign
tim pool
in Brazil I think it was Brazil. There was some leaked audio
And they claimed this politician. I'm not sure if was Brazil's claim this politician said these offensive things
and It turns out that one of them was AI generated one of them
was not And this is exactly what I've been warning about, and this is exactly why I said, when DeSantis' campaign created deepfake images of Trump and Fauci to smear Trump and then labeled it real-life Trump, I'm like, they just crossed a very, very dark line.
And DeSantis, they still have the tweet up, as far as I know.
They never said anything about it, they never fired anybody, they did nothing.
He was fine with it.
I think DeSantis, in terms of leadership in Florida, did a fantastic job.
It's great.
michael malice
That's the thing, right?
It seems like if you took off his name and you asked all these people who hate DeSantis, would you support a governor with this record of president, they'd trip over themselves.
There's a disconnect here for me.
tim pool
Until you see his leadership.
Until you see the mistakes made by the campaign, his failures to address them, and you get all these people who support him saying that policy matters more than charisma, etc, etc, and I'm like, dude, let me just say, I think he is the best politician in the country, in terms of what a politician can be, and Florida did a great job.
Ask yourself, after all of these great things, why his polls are sinking.
roseanne barr
People in Florida feel like he just walked out on them to go campaigning.
They say he hadn't finished half of the stuff he was in the middle of and he capitulates at the end.
So, you know, a lot of people in Florida are mad because he kind of just goes, hey, I did a great job here for two years.
See ya.
But, you know, that's just the nature of politics in the United States.
You get a chance to race.
You have to get a billion dollars to lose an election.
michael malice
It's just so obscene.
I'm going to make two points about that.
Here's the other thing that's really crazy.
If you have any criticism of Joe Biden on social media, right away you're a Trump supporter, right?
If you have any criticism of Trump, oh, you're a DeSantis supporter?
If you have any criticism of DeSantis, you're a MAGA.
It's bizarre how binary it's gotten.
I'm just gonna make two points.
One is, the argument for DeSantis running now was Obama in 2008, where Obama was supposed to wait his turn.
It was supposed to be Hillary's nomination.
Obama said, screw that.
He got that and he became the White House.
So there's a path there for DeSantis historically.
The other is, until Trump, the nominee for the Republican Party was always, for 40 years,
the guy who lost the last time.
Reagan lost in 76 against Gerald Ford, he was the nominee in 80.
George W. Bush ran against Reagan in 80, became the nominee in 88.
Bob Dole ran in 92.
So the pattern, Mitt Romney lost against McCain, then he became nominee in 2012.
Trump broke that pattern.
So there's also room for running and losing, this is the Republican Party at works, and
then being the nominee the next time.
tim pool
I don't believe there is a traditional path to the presidency for Ron DeSantis or Vivek
Ramaswamy or Tim Scott.
But I say Vivek because he's in third place in most of the polls, even rivaling DeSantis.
There's no traditional path.
The path for these gentlemen, presumably DeSantis in second place, maybe Vivek keeps rising in the polls, is going to be Trump's indictment and removal from the ballot.
michael malice
Or forced to step down.
Yes.
roseanne barr
I don't think that that's going to happen because I don't think they can They can indict him for a hundred years and that isn't going to stop them.
michael malice
Can I say one thing, though?
roseanne barr
And they can't, like, keep him off the ballot.
Although... Here's where you're wrong.
Yeah, something really bad is happening now with Biden appointing... They say Biden's going to come out and say, oh, the CIA is going to be in charge of 2024 elections.
michael malice
Here's something I learned about when I was writing the book The White Pill about the Soviet Union.
You can, you know, sit there and you could be like, there's nothing you could do to me.
I'm gonna be the nominee.
I'm gonna run.
I'm gonna run.
There's nothing.
I don't care.
You throw the charges you want.
What these totalitarian regimes do, and I'm not saying we're in a totalitarian regime, but I'm just saying what evil people do, they go, that's cool.
You've got a wife, right?
And you've got kids, right?
And you've got grandkids, right?
Okay, cool.
We're not gonna do anything to you.
So very quickly, when you start targeting those people, everyone starts to fold and with good reason.
So they have a lot of those cards to play and I wouldn't put it past them.
Especially with the Trump Organization indictments.
tim pool
I'll keep this vague because of that, but there was an individual who was running who dropped out recently, and this had been discussed publicly, but I'm not going to say the individual's name because their family, but they dropped out because of the risk of their family.
michael malice
Yeah.
tim pool
And this was like a Trump MAGA candidate, and so we'll just leave it at that, but this is a reality.
michael malice
Yes.
roseanne barr
Well, oh, it's just so scary and horrible.
I just, I'm so afraid.
I just have to say I'm so afraid.
ian crossland
What are you afraid of?
roseanne barr
What's happening to our country and how divided we are, how we can't get How we can't get together to make it better for all of us.
We'll go down fighting each other.
Owners are getting richer.
michael malice
But Roseanne, look at our way.
When the government gets together, it screws over the middle class in the favor of people who have political access and power.
roseanne barr
Well, that's what I'm saying.
I'm scared of that and how bad it's going to get for regular people.
tim pool
Do you think we should abolish the 17th Amendment?
michael malice
Which one is that?
tim pool
Popular vote for senators.
michael malice
I think that's a great idea.
tim pool
That's a great idea.
roseanne barr
Say it again, I don't know about it.
michael malice
What?
The Senate used to be appointed by each state, like the legislature of each state would pick the Senators.
roseanne barr
I thought it was still that way.
michael malice
No, you vote for your Senator in whatever state you live in.
roseanne barr
Right.
michael malice
No, but it used to be like the people don't vote, the state Congress picks the Senators for the federal government.
So the Texas legislature will pick the two Senators.
roseanne barr
Oh my God, how stupid am I?
I thought the people were picking them.
michael malice
No, they are now, but after this amendment.
This is like in the 1890s, 1910s.
Oh no, they gotta get rid of that.
tim pool
So, you know what the reason for it was?
roseanne barr
How do you know?
tim pool
The reason for it was because they said that political insiders were choosing their friends to become senators.
And so they said, this is corruption, how do we stop it?
Have the people directly vote for their senator, which I think was a bad idea.
michael malice
And the big cost is, the whole point was that the Senate and the House were supposed to be as different as possible.
The Senate were like the... Representing the states.
And also kind of this aristocracy, like big shots who go into Washington, they're kind of like elites, and they're there to represent the state specifically, and they're not going to be privy to like the popular whims of the day.
Whereas the House, yeah, is like the lowlifes.
phil labonte
Isn't it Lords and Commons?
michael malice
The House are like the low-lifes.
I don't mean that in a negative way, just like the rabble.
And it's like, this is where we make our voices heard.
tim pool
So what would happen is this.
You in your local district, state district, vote for a senator representative.
You're more likely to know them because they're only representing a couple thousand to ten thousand people.
That individual then votes for a senator.
So you now have to be involved in local politics.
70th Amendment got rid of that and now nobody even knows who their local reps are.
michael malice
Yeah.
tim pool
They don't know who their mayors are half the time, probably more than half the time.
michael malice
But that's also a good thing in this sense because a lot of times these local governments and like you see even like the New York City City Council, they're a lot less partisan and ideological because they're more like cutting deals and like doing, maybe New York is a bad example recently, but a lot of it's just cutting deals and trying to figure out what's going to work for everybody and you're less driven by the party elites.
roseanne barr
Well, it's just like the guy that owns the biggest used car lot has the biggest say in Congress.
michael malice
Yeah.
roseanne barr
Which is so corrupt and so horrible.
I mean, I think we should really take a look at our government.
I like Trump for that reason because I thought he could streamline things and make them more fair and more workable.
Not just him, but a whole bunch of people who had the human being's best interest in mind.
tim pool
Who do you think for 2024, Michael?
michael malice
Who would I think in what capacity?
tim pool
A president.
michael malice
What do you think?
tim pool
Like, who would you prefer if you had to make a choice, be president, based on who's available to choose?
michael malice
I know the chat room's gonna have a meltdown.
I know, I know.
roseanne barr
What I would love to see happen... Don't say Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
michael malice
No, I'm not gonna say that he's a sociopath.
I think he's... I'm not joking.
tim pool
Really?
michael malice
I think Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
is an absolute sociopath.
roseanne barr
I do too.
michael malice
You should interview him.
What's that?
ian crossland
You should interview him.
michael malice
Sure, I'm happy to interview him.
I'm sure he's perfectly charming, but the Kennedy family are very evil.
They gave Rosemary Kennedy lobotomy, and they sent her away pretending she was just on vacation for decades.
This is why they started the Special Olympics.
Look them up.
They're really sinister people, Joe Kennedy.
They're a drug-dealing family.
Talk about Banana Republic.
This is how things happen in South America.
There's a big drug dealer like Pablo Escobar, and they they take over the government. That was kind of a notoriously
roseanne barr
stolen presidential election too.
michael malice
My point is, what I would love to see happen is to have a corpsey Biden and a massive Republican
reaction in the Congress.
What year was that?
that is not important. And that's the only way we in our life. Hold on. Hold on. Let
me finish. I told you the chat was gonna freak out. That's the only time in our lifetime
where we had a balanced budget was when you had a very weakened Democratic president and
a very insurgent Republican Congress. What year was that?
97 98. Balance budget?
roseanne barr
We're so past a damn balanced budget.
michael malice
That's what they said in 94 and then they didn't.
roseanne barr
We got China in Cuba and Russia coming for us now.
What are you talking about a balanced budget?
We're gonna have another Cuban Missile Crisis right at our doorstep within six months.
michael malice
What does one have to do with the other?
roseanne barr
They're gonna bomb us to the next world!
michael malice
So we should spend more money?
roseanne barr
Hell yeah!
And not pay a dime of it back!
Hell yeah!
tim pool
I'm more concerned about the DOJ.
michael malice
I think if there's a big House majority, then Merrick Garland's going to get impeached.
tim pool
I don't think so.
michael malice
Okay, that's my prediction.
Roger Taylor Greene has already started talking about it.
tim pool
You've got a decent handful of insurgent Republicans right now that are pushing really hard, and even then, not pushing as hard as many people want.
And then if you get a Republican majority, it's still going to be dominated by neocons.
michael malice
Not necessarily, not if it's a huge reaction.
Here's my other concern, and I think everyone would agree.
If you have Trump in again, which there's definitely pluses to that, I think on the state level, people like Whitmer, Newsom, Kathy Hochul are going to be pushing policies that are so deranged and radical as a reaction to Trump that it's going to make 2023 look like a cakewalk.
That's a big fear of mine.
Meaning what they pushed in 2023 is going to look like nothing compared to what they pushed.
tim pool
2020, you mean?
michael malice
No, like now.
The kind of shit they're pushing now.
ian crossland
Would you feel better if it was Michelle Obama's president and then a Republican resurgence in Congress?
michael malice
No, I want a week.
I want a corpse.
ian crossland
But the only problem I have is like what Roseanne was saying about Cuba, like military, you know, international military command.
phil labonte
What makes you think Michelle Obama is in any way qualified to deal with some type of military issue in Cuba?
tim pool
She did that diet thing about...
ian crossland
And I'm not saying she's the greatest military commander.
tim pool
And the Cubans are hungry so she can speak their language.
ian crossland
I kind of picked her because I don't think she's the best or even like a great military commander.
I have nothing to go on, but way better than someone falling into dementia.
phil labonte
No, it doesn't matter.
In this context, it doesn't matter.
ian crossland
He just said that he cured cancer.
phil labonte
I know what you're saying, but the point that I'm making is, whether it be Michelle Obama, who's ignorant about military Whatever.
Military action.
Or Joe Biden, who's not in contact with reality.
It doesn't matter, because the people making the decisions are still going to be the generals.
michael malice
Yes, that's exact.
I agree.
roseanne barr
But that's not good.
michael malice
No one's saying it's good!
It's not up for debate.
ian crossland
I think Barack would kind of run the show.
michael malice
He already is!
roseanne barr
This is his third term.
Listen, there's nobody but Trump.
Nobody but Trump can do what needs to be done.
And you know what?
They're already, you know, you're going to say everything I say is a tinfoil hat, but, and my son does too, I know, but people... That's quite an intro, but...
But I think things are going to change real big by the end of the year.
I do.
michael malice
I agree with you.
roseanne barr
I don't think that the Republicans are going to impeach nobody.
They're all in bed and they all took Epstein money too.
michael malice
Wait, hold on.
roseanne barr
They're not going to do nothing.
michael malice
I'm saying if there is a huge reaction against Biden, because when Biden was elected in 2020 or voted in wherever, calm down chat room.
They, for the first time like ever, the House of the other party picked up seats.
So what I'm saying is if Biden squeaks through in 2024, it would not be impossible for the House to massively have that red wave that was supposed to happen in 2022.
And then they might be enough to actually start really doing impeachments.
roseanne barr
I don't even think we're going to have an election, Tim.
I don't think we're going to have no election in 2024.
I'll bet.
michael malice
How much?
100 bucks?
roseanne barr
How much you got?
michael malice
Not as much as you!
roseanne barr
I'll bet big.
I don't think we're going to have another election.
michael malice
A thousand dollars.
roseanne barr
All right, I'll bet big.
michael malice
Shake hands.
roseanne barr
I hate shaking hands.
Go like this.
ian crossland
It's worth it.
Oh, that was a good one.
michael malice
A thousand dollars.
So if we have an election 2024, you're going to give me a thousand dollars?
roseanne barr
Uh-huh.
michael malice
Okay.
Jake, does she have it?
Yeah.
You don't have like a Britney Spears relationship with her, right?
She has control of her money.
roseanne barr
I've got a thousand bucks, but you're going to have to pay me a thousand when we do not have no election.
michael malice
I would be delighted.
And I'll buy you a nice dinner on top of that.
tim pool
Why do you think there won't be an election?
roseanne barr
Because I think the corruption is just beginning to come out, and I think it's going to avalanche the corruption of the Biden administration and the money they took.
First it's going to be about Ukraine and Russia, then it's going to go into China, then it's going to go into the DOJ, and it's going to be like a big ol' avalanche.
tim pool
That would prompt an election.
roseanne barr
Huh?
tim pool
That would prompt an election.
roseanne barr
Nope.
Because I think that it's gonna get so bad in the streets, too, that I think the military's gonna step in.
tim pool
I mean, Michael, we've talked about the—many people who have come on the show said this is, like, the one time they actually are not convinced there will be an election.
That is not to say— We hear that every four years.
But— No, we don't.
No, no, no.
Come on.
michael malice
Yes, we do.
roseanne barr
Not like now.
tim pool
Not like now.
michael malice
I remember very vividly in Newsmax.com in 2000, they were arguing that Clinton is not gonna leave the White House.
tim pool
And they argued that in 2016.
michael malice
Yes.
tim pool
But that's not every single time.
This is the Trump culture war period.
michael malice
Do you want to end this action, too?
I'll bet a thousand dollars with you, too.
tim pool
I didn't say there wasn't gonna be an election.
I'm saying we've had people on the show where we've discussed what is the potentiality, what is the percentage rate of there not being an election, and it's not zero.
michael malice
It's not zero.
That's fair.
We had an election during the Civil War.
We had an election during World War II.
So the best predictor of future behavior is history.
So, if there was precedent for cancelling elections, I'd be more receptive to this argument.
And here's the thing, they don't need to cancel it.
ian crossland
Exactly.
michael malice
That's the point.
ian crossland
I know, it's disturbing.
michael malice
It's much better for them to have a perception that when Trudeau got re-elected—hold on, let me finish my point in one second.
When Trudeau just got re-elected with the exact same number of seats as previously, he said, oh, I have a mandate.
So, they will absolutely have the election.
Whatever happens, they'll say, we have a mandate to do whatever we want.
tim pool
We need to clarify this.
roseanne barr
What if more information comes out that proves things that certain people don't think are ever going to be proven?
tim pool
We need to clarify this bet.
What do you mean by election?
roseanne barr
I mean, um...
A presidential election.
michael malice
Yeah, people go in and vote.
tim pool
Okay, so in 1876, people went in to vote.
michael malice
Yes.
tim pool
And then the president was determined by a committee.
michael malice
No, there were two sets of electors in Florida.
I just read a book about this.
But they had an election.
tim pool
And the election didn't matter.
michael malice
It did matter.
It was just a question of which votes are the ones to count.
tim pool
And you know who decided which votes to count?
michael malice
Yeah, they had a conference.
tim pool
But they still had the election.
And they decided, we are going to end Reconstruction And we're going to split this up so that we don't have another... No, that's a myth.
michael malice
That's a historical myth.
I'm telling you, I just read a book about this literally, like, in the last six months.
tim pool
But why is that book correct and what I read not correct?
michael malice
Because... Okay, I don't know.
Maybe I'm wrong.
The point is, I just read a book about this.
This has been a historical thing that they cut this deal behind the scenes.
It was much more complicated than that.
That's all I'm gonna say.
But I'm not here to argue.
That's 1876.
ian crossland
Well, with modern-day elections, I'm concerned that there's gonna be a dog-and-pony show, and they're like, hey, everybody voted, and they're like, But we're just going to go in the back room and count it and tell you what the answer is.
You're like, dude, show me the votes in public.
michael malice
That's the thing.
For them to actually have military law, it's really hard to put that over.
roseanne barr
But we might already be under military law, and a lot of people don't know that we are.
phil labonte
Have you seen what your average SWAT team looks like?
They look just like Special Forces.
roseanne barr
Obama militarized the police.
tim pool
Let me just read this for you.
I'm not saying you have to believe it, but this is just Wikipedia, and it's not like it's an absolute source.
Says the result of the election remained among the most disputed ever.
Although it is not disputed that Tilden outpolled Hayes in the popular vote, there were wide allegations of electoral fraud, election violence, and other disenfranchisement of predominantly Republican black voters.
After a first count of votes, Tilden had won by 184 to Hayes' 165, with 20 votes from four states unresolved.
Florida, Louisiana, South Carolina, both parties reported their candidate to have won the state.
Oregon won Elector, etc, etc.
An informal backroom deal was struck to resolve the votes, the Compromise of 1877.
In the deal, the Democrats conceded the 20 contested electoral votes to Hayes, resulting in a 185-184 victory.
In return, the Republicans agreed to withdraw federal troops in the South, marking the end of Reconstruction.
michael malice
Right, but there's a difference between withdrawing troops and ending Reconstruction.
tim pool
Well, sure.
Whatever it is, the point is, the election did not matter.
roseanne barr
Because there was fraud.
tim pool
You can argue that the election mattered in the sense that the votes were there, but if it ultimately comes down to a group of men meeting and saying, which votes should we count?
Right, my point is not that the votes are completely out of the question and have nothing to do with what's going on, it's that the decision ultimately comes down to a group of better men, as they were described.
michael malice
But that's the Electoral College.
unidentified
Right.
michael malice
Like, there was arguments in 2016 that even the people who Trump had won those states, they should still vote for Hillary.
Like, there was a lot of corporate journals arguing for some time.
tim pool
Right, were they Hamilton electors?
unidentified
My point is, In Georgia, right?
tim pool
Are we going to have an election where even, you know, where the votes come through, there
are some legal battles, but ultimately they count and we're like, that's it?
Or is it going to be a dispute where everyone's fighting and arguing in the streets?
roseanne barr
I think that's what it is.
tim pool
Here's why I don't think there's gonna be people in the streets.
thinking. So there will be an election is what I'm saying.
The votes will be counted.
And then just like 2020, there is going to be widespread dispute. Here's why I don't
michael malice
think there's going to be people in the streets because there weren't people in the streets
during COVID. So Americans, what are you talking about?
Yeah, there were.
The BLM people.
What I'm saying is a lot of these, the lockdowns and the pushback was far less than if you had sat us all down, I think everyone in this room, and it was 2019 and you said, all right, if these state governments are going to make it that you're not allowed to leave your house for two weeks for basically for what a lot of people think is no reason, are the American people going to stand for this or is there going to be violence?
We would have all said they're never going to be able to get away with it, but they did.
tim pool
I disagree.
michael malice
Okay, let me hear you.
tim pool
So, why did people riot like crazy all over the country?
We call it the 529 insurrection.
Now, on the surface, the media says Black Lives Matter.
But, as we've discussed in great detail, the real reason people in New York were rampaging through the streets was because they were locked inside, and they had gone insane, and then their anger was directed towards some random cause.
So, you had the famous story where a guy calls 911 after people were ransacking his building.
Ransacking his apartment building had nothing to do with BLM.
He called the police and said, they're breaking into my building, what do I do?
And they said, sir, the city is under attack, what would you have us do?
On the surface, everybody said it was BLM.
But the real anger that was within people was because they had been isolated, they were getting pain sickly from lack of vitamin D, malnourishment, and then a catalyst sparked it off and they went nuts.
michael malice
Tim, I don't think there was as much anti-COVID pushback in the anti-COVID populations and areas as I would have expected in 2019.
tim pool
I agree.
michael malice
That's all I'm saying.
tim pool
I agree with the idea that Republicans and conservatives who are complaining didn't do anything else.
michael malice
That's all I'm saying.
tim pool
But I believe the real reason for the mass unrest was not George Floyd.
That was just a spark to give an excuse to people who are losing their mind.
roseanne barr
I don't think they lost their mind.
Think about it though.
They bust in people and paid them, left piles and pallets of bricks.
And stuff.
They brought in their operatives and took advantage of it.
michael malice
Well, we don't know that's true.
roseanne barr
Yes, it is true, because it was all over the news.
They'd find the big... It wasn't.
tim pool
They'd find... People were posting old photos of construction sites and then claiming that they were just placed there, but that's just internet conjecture.
roseanne barr
Tim, you had a large... Okay, but I saw... I saw...
A lot of stuff on the internet that would, like January 6th, suggest to me that there were operatives who took advantage and were being bused in and paid to aggravate bad situations.
tim pool
So you think the riots were not people pushing back against COVID?
roseanne barr
I think there were people, yeah, I think there was all that.
I think there was that, and I think there were aggravators added to it.
michael malice
What about Ferguson?
No one was locked in their homes during Ferguson, and there was riots for a long time.
Baltimore is another one.
tim pool
Ferguson was not, like, so in the 529 George Floyd area was one of the worst riots we've seen in decades.
Sure.
All over the country.
michael malice
Right.
tim pool
At the same time.
And even in small cities that people never covered.
Michael Tracy famously went down to these cities.
That was unprecedented.
Like, what?
When Michael Brown was killed, we didn't see writing to that degree outside of Ferguson.
It was just Ferguson.
roseanne barr
Which is exactly my point.
It didn't come from the grassroots.
It did not come from the grassroots.
michael malice
It came from the media.
tim pool
Michael Brown was all in the media too.
roseanne barr
It didn't come from the grassroots.
It came from agitators.
And they were paid.
michael malice
I don't know.
My point is, people who turn on their TVs, who have been angry for a very long time, who've been taught that things are shitty for them, that they should be angry, so on and so forth, saw that they could go out and manifest their anger and not only have no consequences, but will be lauded for it.
unidentified
I agree.
michael malice
So that's going to encourage a lot of people who don't have to lose their minds.
tim pool
I agree with you.
And what I'm saying is, the anger was not Because of Black Lives Matter, a small component, their anger was because people were locked in their apartments and couldn't leave.
They were becoming dejected, angry, and vicious.
And then they said, hey, you're angry at this.
And they were like, I can go outside and be angry now.
And they let it all out.
roseanne barr
I can see that being part of it too.
Yeah, I can see that being a part of it.
But I think that they, I think that the owners of this country saw an opportunity to burn down small businesses.
michael malice
Yes.
roseanne barr
Burn down small businesses and hurt neighborhoods that they had already targeted anyway with big corporate fascism is what it is.
tim pool
You know, I've said this before and I want to say it to get your guys' reaction.
unidentified
529.
tim pool
Far-left extremists tore down the barricades of the White House, injuring 70-plus police officers, set fire to a guard post, set fire to St.
John's Church, forced the president into a bunker.
If Donald Trump ordered the police to stand down, he would be president today.
roseanne barr
Ordered the police to stand down?
tim pool
On 5-29-2020, if Donald Trump ordered the police, if Bill Barr, whoever, ordered the police in D.C.
to stand down and let the far left do whatever they want, we would not be talking about January 6th.
We'd be talking about the torching of the White House.
roseanne barr
And then we would have had the White House torched.
michael malice
There's also some downsides, I guess.
tim pool
My point is this, Donald Trump does not understand politics, strategy, culture, war, conflict, etc.
January 6th, the police are taking selfies with people.
It becomes the insurrection.
If these extremists burn down St.
John's Church, if they tore the fences down, if they actually breached the White House, Trump would come out and say, we had fear that innocent people would be harmed if we advanced and engaged in active conflict in the streets of D.C.
We decided the smartest thing to do would be to save personnel and back off.
I'm sorry, America.
Far-left extremists have destroyed elements of D.C.
and our government, and that would have justified Insurrection Act or other actions.
ian crossland
That's what bothers me about January 6th, man.
roseanne barr
I understand what you're saying.
ian crossland
Yeah, like letting people destroy your home just to get political to play the victim and be like oh
tim pool
look what they do nobody live at the capitol if right right so the issue is this donald trump
roseanne barr
stopped why do you think wait a minute okay let me ask this why do you think they put up all those uh
barricades and uh barbed wire fences around dc all right are you talking about for january 6th or
phil labonte
afterwards Afterwards.
Afterwards was as a show of force.
Yeah.
Basically to intimidate the American people.
michael malice
Tim, I would agree with you.
roseanne barr
Why was everything facing in and not out?
Why were the fences facing in towards the Capitol?
tim pool
I don't think that's true.
We have people who come from D.C.
all the time.
That was not something anyone ever said and we never saw it.
michael malice
The thing about 529, I would agree with you more if the media weren't, especially at that time, so invested in scripting a narrative.
And there's a limit.
only tangentially related to reality.
And I think you remember everyone here, hold on, let me finish my point, remembers very
vividly that we were told that COVID's a problem, you have to stay in your house, and then as
soon as these riots hit off, you have to be in the streets protesting and you're going
to be immune from COVID.
tim pool
And there's a limit.
There is a limit that regular Americans can withstand.
michael malice
I don't think Trump standing down would have hit that limit.
I'm sorry.
tim pool
If they ripped the fencing down at the White House and burned down St.
John's Church, St.
John's Church was on fire, and they stopped it.
If they didn't, it would have burned to the ground.
unidentified
But then they would have won!
roseanne barr
No, no, they did win.
unidentified
but then they would have won. No, no, they did win.
tim pool
So the issue is this.
Do you think like the CIA...
I'll put it this way. I was talking to Occupy Wall Street activists back twelve
years ago and I said, do you think that, let's say it's Field Japan,
the Ninja Warrior walks up to the front gates and knocks on the Emperor's door and
say, we hereby demand the Emperor stand down.
michael malice
Yeah, he says, I'm the one who knocks.
tim pool
Or does the ninja, dressed like a servant, sneak in in the middle of the night, put a few drops of poison to the emperor, and then sneak out?
In warfare, it's surreptitious, it's espionage, it's manipulation, it's psychological conflict in warfare.
My point is this.
Nobody should be violent.
January 6th should never have happened.
5-9 should not have happened.
My point is, whether you care... It has nothing to do with what should or shouldn't happen.
It has to do with the logical steps of what does happen.
On January 6th, people stormed into the Capitol.
The media then showed all these images and said, insurrection, violence, breaking up, people fighting, and that terrifies people who don't pay attention.
Sure.
If, on 5-29, they did the same thing and had the police taking selfies with protesters and letting them ransack, the media can try, and that is an advantage that the establishment has, but there is a limit.
St.
John's Church being burnt to the ground, guard posts being burned, the president being locked in his bunker for two days.
michael malice
They burned down police stations and no one cared because they weren't That's not true that no one cared.
tim pool
Black Lives Matter went from its highest approval rating ever to its lowest point ever following those riots.
michael malice
No one cared to the point that it would have made a difference in having Trump re-elected.
tim pool
I think you're wrong.
ian crossland
May 29, all it takes is like an ABC article that says, Trump let them burn the White House down.
And that would have just wrecked his chances.
michael malice
Yes, there you go.
roseanne barr
I disagree.
michael malice
Everything bad is Trump's fault.
roseanne barr
No, some people say this where you're really going to think I'm crazy.
But some people say that Trump signed a thing on December 18th called continuation.
I'm sorry.
Some people say, a lot of them military people, and I actually stick my nose in military business, that Trump signed a thing on December 18th, continuation of government and that we are under limited martial law right now, already.
tim pool
None of that stuff's true.
roseanne barr
How do you know?
unidentified
I'll show you on the US military sites that I read.
tim pool
I'll start from the beginning.
michael malice
First, we can talk about the NDAA indefinite detention authorization.
roseanne barr
He's controlled opposition. Come on, Roseanne. I'll show you on the military, I'll show you on the US military sites
tim pool
that I lead.
So, I'll start from the beginning. First, we can talk about the NDAA indefinite detention authorization.
roseanne barr
I believe that they were all arrested. Oh no. I believe that they took everybody out. Here we go. Never happened.
And that they're playing their parts and that we're going to see military tribunals by the end of the year.
That's never going to happen.
michael malice
I believe it, I'm telling you this.
So the military tribunals will be public?
roseanne barr
They already have happened.
michael malice
Will they be public by the end of the year?
roseanne barr
Yes.
michael malice
You want to bet another thousand dollars?
roseanne barr
A thousand bucks on that too.
michael malice
Okay, so a thousand dollars that there will be no public military tribunals.
roseanne barr
No, I'm saying there will be.
michael malice
And I'm saying that's not the bet.
roseanne barr
Limited military tribunals will be shown by the end of this year.
michael malice
And I'm saying no.
So will you bet a thousand dollars?
tim pool
No, it's only like four months.
roseanne barr
Yeah, I'll bet a thousand bucks on that.
michael malice
Okay, here we go.
phil labonte
I love Roseanne's optimism.
michael malice
I guess when you have Roseanne money, you can just make these bets and you don't care.
phil labonte
Is that a joke?
roseanne barr
Listen, it's not because... We have the video clips here.
I can show you clips.
michael malice
This is why I brought her, so I can be rich!
roseanne barr
I can show you clips and all kinds of stuff that you've never even seen.
I can show you stuff.
But I'll tell you why I believe it, because I read The Art of War, and I know that Trump's a badass, and he's not gonna let any of them get away with anything.
And he locked up Cheyenne Mountain, and they can't get at it.
Too bad.
tim pool
How do you know that?
roseanne barr
Because it's all in the declassified documents.
tim pool
Cheyenne Mountain is locked up, you say.
unidentified
Be nice to Roseanne Barr, Tim Pool.
tim pool
Let me tell you my favorite thing ever.
We were watching a Flat Earth video last week.
unidentified
I don't believe the Earth is flat.
tim pool
I'm not saying you do.
It's an oval.
It's a cube, you idiot!
Every single diehard Flat Earther says, why can't we travel to Antarctica?
Strange, isn't it?
phil labonte
Exactly!
tim pool
And I'm like, what are you talking about?
michael malice
I know people who went there!
phil labonte
Metallica went there!
michael malice
They just make it up!
roseanne barr
That's what that thing was going for, the Titanic deal.
It was trying to get to Antarctica.
tim pool
The Pentagon reactivated Cheyenne Mountain in 2020.
When did Trump lock it up?
This is where they have the Stargate, by the way.
michael malice
Turn the screen for her so she can see.
tim pool
This is where they have the Stargate, by the way.
unidentified
What's in it?
tim pool
Oh.
This is where the Stargate is.
michael malice
Go to the headlines so she can see, yeah.
tim pool
This is 2020.
phil labonte
Joshua's in it.
tim pool
When did Trump lock it down?
roseanne barr
Uh, in 21.
tim pool
Trump wasn't president in 21.
michael malice
Yes, he was.
The first week.
tim pool
Oh, right, right, right, right.
Sorry, sorry, sorry.
You are absolutely correct.
roseanne barr
On January 20th.
michael malice
Or the first month, whatever it was.
ian crossland
Cheyenne Mountain.
michael malice
You can't trust Google.
They're controlled opposition.
ian crossland
This is like underground research facility Cheyenne Mountain.
unidentified
Look.
roseanne barr
It's called the DUM.
Deep Underground Military Base.
ian crossland
The DUM.
michael malice
I'm making so much money.
ian crossland
I was just in Colorado Springs.
They were probably in those mountains.
That's where NORAD command is.
We drove by there.
roseanne barr
Look under DUMB.
First do Cheyenne Mountain.
michael malice
Look under DUMB.
roseanne barr
First do Cheyenne Mountain.
tim pool
I did search for it.
There's nothing there.
Nothing comes up.
And okay, you can make the argument Google's hiding it, but... Yeah, they are.
roseanne barr
Okay, so when people come out and say... Remember when Putin gave Trump the soccer ball?
tim pool
When was that?
michael malice
No.
roseanne barr
Wake up!
Remember when they... Wake up!
Google when Putin gave Trump the soccer ball.
tim pool
Oh, there we go.
unidentified
Yeah, 2018.
tim pool
Uh-huh.
Well, I don't know.
It was five years ago.
michael malice
She should have bet her that that never happened.
tim pool
I didn't say it didn't happen.
I said, when was that?
unidentified
Oh, right.
Okay.
ian crossland
That's what I'm talking about.
Diplomacy.
roseanne barr
That's over there in Cheyenne Mountain.
Check that out.
ian crossland
I've got an article from Daily Mail says, Why is the U.S.
military moving back into Stargate Base, deep under the Rocky Mountains, a decade after it was abandoned?
But this is from 2015.
Right.
roseanne barr
Yeah, that's when it started, 2015.
tim pool
There are a lot of things we don't know about.
There's a lot of things the government is doing we don't know about.
roseanne barr
There's nothing I don't know about, honey.
I am a nosy old Jewish woman and I can get in anywhere.
I believe it.
unidentified
Anywhere.
roseanne barr
One thing is when I'm- you're as famous and damn good looking as me, Tim.
I can stick my nose in anybody's business.
I know how, I'm a grandmother.
And I have stuck my nose in the thick of it this time.
michael malice
Was Michael Jackson guilty, what they accused him of?
roseanne barr
I'm talking about Cheyenne Mountains.
unidentified
You were talking about that.
roseanne barr
I know a lot of military people and I do think that the people in America, they're in for a big old wake-up call.
phil labonte
Sick, back to Michael Jackson.
roseanne barr
Things are going to get way worse before they get better, but you better wake up.
Wake up!
Wake up and snap out of it, people.
You've got a lot of work to do.
ian crossland
I could imagine deepfake technology unleashed on the humans, like there's this stuff called talking plasma that the military is working on, where they'll triangulate lasers and then create a ball of plasma, and they'll move it around on a radar that looks like a UFO, and they can project sound through the thing.
michael malice
I've got one sentence.
Roseanne, hold on, one sentence.
Will you please, please, please have Ian on your podcast?
roseanne barr
I'd love to!
tim pool
I don't buy it.
roseanne barr
They're always gonna tell us it's alien.
It's always a distraction.
michael malice
You know what the real story is?
tim pool
Let's get 15 minutes. We have the story from the Daily Mail.
Former defense official says the US has recovered technology that quote,
did not originate on this earth. Discuss.
ian crossland
I don't buy it. They're always going to tell us it's alien.
michael malice
It's always a distraction.
tim pool
You know what the real story is?
What?
Former defense official says he was told by someone in government
they've discovered technology, offer technology.
So the Daily Mail is framing it in such a way that it makes it sound like he's definitively saying he was party to it, but he's actually, if you read it, he's actually saying America may have in our possession and that he believes it happened because, what's the exact quote?
He says, Mellon says he expects new information will surface, blah blah blah.
I've been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this earth by officials in the DoD and by former intelligence officials.
roseanne barr
You know what that means?
That means it originated in Antarctica.
Which ain't on here, but it's under it.
tim pool
There was a Stargate in Antarctica.
michael malice
I was going to make one point.
I believe that.
My grandfather was a big shot air traffic controller in the Soviet Union, high up in the military.
Not high up, whatever, he was an air traffic controller, so there's certain levels of clearance.
He told me that they would see things that they could not explain all the time.
This was very understood from both sides and it wasn't technological.
on the street, if someone jerked in high office, he would say they would see things on their
radar that they could not explain all the time.
This was very understood from both sides and it wasn't technological, it was like, okay,
this doesn't make sense.
ian crossland
Radar distortion, I think, is talking plasma or other stuff like it.
Lightweight drones also have metamaterials, things like aerogel, air alloy, like hardcore machine material that's lighter than air.
They will float in the air.
roseanne barr
Well, that stuff in the vaccine is, remember, what is it?
ian crossland
Graphene oxide.
roseanne barr
Yeah, that stuff is the most amazing.
tim pool
No, no, no.
ian crossland
This is right here, Rosanna.
roseanne barr
No, that stuff is amazing.
It's the strongest thing in the world.
unidentified
Yes, but it's not in your vaccine.
ian crossland
You're talking about graphene.
roseanne barr
Oh, graphene.
unidentified
No.
roseanne barr
Whatever it is, they say it's in the vaccine, but I don't know that.
tim pool
Random people on the internet say a lot of things.
roseanne barr
But it is the strongest thing in the universe.
ian crossland
You can get it from carbon dioxide.
You can make it out of air.
michael malice
Let him go, let him go.
ian crossland
I have some here, I'm looking for it.
roseanne barr
Yeah, you make it out of air and it can take any shape, right?
ian crossland
Graphene?
It's hexagonally like honeycomb lattice, one atom thick.
You can turn it into like, you can make like tubes out of it.
roseanne barr
Yeah, it can take any shape.
ian crossland
I mean, hypothetically, I don't know if any shape is the right phrase because it's some nanomolecular level.
Are you talking about like a liquid metal material?
michael malice
This is like Harley Quinn talking to the Joker.
ian crossland
You see those videos where the graphene is being moved around magnetically, like ferromagnetic graphene or something?
michael malice
You're not getting this back in the room.
tim pool
I want to say something to Michael Malice.
michael malice
Yes, sir.
tim pool
So it was, I think it was 2006.
I had just stopped working at O'Hare Airport in Chicago.
I had friends who still worked there.
And they confirmed this story to me.
I had a friend who was, uh, I think he was on his way to O'Hare.
I had worked for American Eagle Airlines, a regional airline.
You can look up photos of this.
The photo of the UFO exists.
There was a gray saucer-shaped object that came down from the clouds and hovered above O'Hare, above the United Express Terminal, which I believe was the C gates, I could be wrong, C or D, and stayed there for a few minutes and then shot straight up into the clouds and punched a hole in it.
Uh, I don't know.
michael malice
A hole in the clouds?
tim pool
A hole in the clouds.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
Leaving a hole with sunlight coming through.
And... Apparently a pilot looked out and had some, like, rudimentary old cell phone with a picture.
He took a picture of it somehow.
And the photo exists.
You can Google it.
You can find the photo.
People I knew who worked there said they saw it.
These are regular guys, mid-40s, they're not superstitious, they watched football and they played Xbox, they cared nothing for this, and they were like, I don't know what that was, man.
michael malice
And they've seen things, so they would know if it's something normal.
tim pool
And here's the crazy thing.
My friend who was on his way to work said, on Mannheim Road, right next to the airport, people stopped their cars in the middle of the road, got out, and were staring at it.
michael malice
Okay, yeah.
tim pool
And then we're just like, so what was it?
We don't know what it was.
But it's a famous UFO story.
You can read all about it.
And I had left, so I didn't see any of it.
So all I can say is hearsay.
I asked people who were there, and they said they saw it, and they couldn't explain it.
ian crossland
I was talking to Kash Patel, who was he at the Defense Department with Trump?
michael malice
Yes, I believe so.
ian crossland
And I was like, do we have craft that can go out into space and then go under the ocean?
And he was like, huh.
Can't tell you that one.
roseanne barr
Yeah, of course not.
ian crossland
And I was like, okay, he didn't say yes.
So, thank you.
michael malice
He didn't say no.
ian crossland
He didn't say no.
And he looked at me like, I can't tell you.
roseanne barr
Well, they're so far ahead.
They're 50 years ahead of what we know.
Yeah.
The stuff they can do.
ian crossland
At least when they ran a Tesla's laboratory, that was like 100 years ago.
The stuff that he was working on.
tim pool
I gotta point out, people have posted a lot of fake photos.
There's weird CGI garbage, and I wonder if it's intentionally trying to shut the story down.
So, here, let me pull this up right here.
This is, um, musingsofanexplorer.com.
I just googled it.
And you can see this image, which I believe does look like the image I remember.
I'm not sure.
And there's something... This is, this is 2006.
This is before iPhones.
Cell phones barely had cameras.
They had really garbage cameras.
And I don't know how the photo was taken.
It says, taken in O'Hare, November 7, 2006.
I had just stopped working there, I think, in, like, August.
And so my friends, people I knew, were all still there.
I called them.
I was like, yo, what is this?
I heard this story.
Crazy.
And there's supposedly the images.
michael malice
Can I say one thing, just one sentence?
I want to give a big F you to Ashley St.
Clair because she told me to watch Arrival and the first two thirds of the movie are awesome and then the conclusion sucks.
So I wasted two hours of my very short remaining life.
So F you, Ashley.
tim pool
So it was Seagate.
michael malice
What?
Arrival, yeah.
tim pool
It was Seagate, which I believe is United Express, which was right next to us.
So we, I think we were D and like H. That was the American Eagle gates.
So right across, we'd see United Express.
We never go over there.
That's their different company.
And it was right above the Seagates.
So the craziest thing though, and you know, you read these stories and they say 12 employees saw it.
I'm like, dude, I had a friend who worked there who said that people were getting out of their cars in the middle of Mannheim Road, this big, you know, state or local highway.
It's like that streetlights, it's not like an expressway.
michael malice
And let's talk a little bit about misinformation.
roseanne barr
It was hanging around for a while, though.
michael malice
For a couple minutes, it floated there.
Because there's people who say, there was a book that was published in France at the time,
claiming that 9-11 never happened, and that the World Trade Center towers are holograms, right?
Right?
So the point being, if you have any questions about these issues, right away there's enough misinformation out there.
roseanne barr
That's true.
michael malice
Like, oh, so you're saying that they're holograms and it was shot down by lasers?
So a lot of times there's enough of this nonsense that's flooded to make it seem that anyone's asking about something you just talked about where sane, sober, daylight, working-class, regular people are eyewitnesses.
You could sweep it all in the rug by just accusing it of being the most extreme version.
roseanne barr
Because people say no planes flew into the buildings.
They say that was CGI.
michael malice
Right.
tim pool
This is what bothers me about most conspiracy theories is that people who engage in the most extreme thinking on an issue actually make it impossible to get to the bottom of an issue.
And so I'll give you an example.
When the emails got released by WikiLeaks where they started the whole Pizzagate thing, someone said, is it better to play dominoes on pizza or on pasta?
One day, seemingly out of nowhere, someone fabricated this idea that these words were references to children.
They were not.
Now, there are certainly, CP is a reference thing, cheese pizza was a reference thing, but they conflated this, and you know what I think it really was?
roseanne barr
What?
michael malice
Drugs.
Yes.
I'll say one more thing, Tim.
It was clearly not pizza.
It was clearly code for something.
roseanne barr
And we don't know what that is.
Well, when he says, I want pizza for an hour, come on.
tim pool
Heroin?
Ecstasy?
michael malice
No, but the point is it's not pizza.
The point is it's not pizza.
tim pool
So here's the issue.
What's something that is entirely believable is that a bunch of White House people were doing hardcore schedule one drugs like cocaine at a party and they speak in code and email.
roseanne barr
Yes, that could be.
tim pool
We could easily investigate drug abuse and say we want to get to the bottom of what they were talking about doing but then all of a sudden the internet blows up with the most insane conspiracies and then immediately the media says this proves it's fake and regular people don't question it.
roseanne barr
That's true.
michael malice
I'm going to say one thing.
roseanne barr
I think they do do that all the time.
michael malice
But here's the thing.
I don't think it's that that insane because very publicly this administration killed a bunch of kids overseas and no one even had a demotion for it.
tim pool
Obama was surrendered in Afghanistan.
michael malice
No, Biden in Afghanistan.
They're like, oh, we just killed a bunch of kids, up too bad.
No one got reprimanded.
So you can't think it's too crazy that people in government are literally killing children all the time.
roseanne barr
Well, everything that I've said, that my children, I have five children, everything I've said for the last 20 years, they go, Godmother, you and your... They call you mother?
When they're pissed.
Godmother, you and your ridiculous conspiracy theories.
Everything I said has came true three years later.
Okay?
Every single thing.
michael malice
Everything?
roseanne barr
Yeah.
When I said it was a pedo-ponzi-priesthood-pyramid scheme.
Yeah.
It's all true.
It's coming true every day.
tim pool
Well, in four months, we'll see if the tribunals happen.
roseanne barr
Are you in on the bet, Tim?
tim pool
No.
I'm a fence sitter.
ian crossland
All right.
I want to talk a little bit about anti-gravity because- Cut the stream, it's a wrap!
michael malice
You end on the high note!
ian crossland
There's a lot of muddied water on anti-gravity that it's impossible, you know, obviously- It's totally possible!
I think it is.
And there's something called the Byfield-Brown effect.
If you want to look into, like, something that might potentially be asymmetrical capacitor thrusters.
And I'm wondering if... I try and do these experiments with Jeremy Riss at his laboratory in New Jersey, and we were trying to figure out if you can increase horizontal velocity fast enough, you'll reduce vertical velocity to zero.
And then you'll be... you won't be interacting with gravity, so you'll be falling forward, basically.
roseanne barr
Well, airplanes overcome gravity.
michael malice
No, they don't.
roseanne barr
They fly in the air for crying out loud.
michael malice
That's not what gravity means.
They're not overcoming gravity.
roseanne barr
They are too, and so are trees.
Trees grow up against gravity.
tim pool
Michael, the UFO is overcoming gravity right now.
roseanne barr
Yeah, bitch.
ian crossland
There's also something called ionic wind, which might be able to use to push metal, super lightweight metal around in an atmosphere.
michael malice
Tim, how do we fund a buddy comedy where they're both cops who have to work together?
Like Rush Hour 4.
ian crossland
We should do it 100%.
unidentified
Hey, bitch, do you understand the words that are coming out of my mouth?
tim pool
Now hold on, hold on.
Let me say this.
Uh, Ian mentioned aerogel.
Do you know what aerogel is?
michael malice
No, I don't.
tim pool
It's a solid that's lighter than air.
Or, I don't think it's completely lighter than air.
I think it is.
It's not lighter, but it's... So it floats into the... You can, like... It's a solid, and you can, like, tap it, and it will, like... And it's super heat-resistant.
unidentified
You can heat it with, like, blowtorches, and it doesn't even... Wait, this has been created, or it's hypothetical?
Yes.
ian crossland
Aerogel.
Oh, they have aerographite now.
roseanne barr
Learn a thing or two.
ian crossland
Is lighter than air.
It's seven times lighter than air.
tim pool
It is lighter than air.
ian crossland
A graphene aerogel.
roseanne barr
It is that graphene, that's what I'm talking about.
ian crossland
We're going to start pulling it out of the carbon dioxide and then we're going to have to figure out how not to pull too much out because we're competing with the trees.
michael malice
You know what?
I think I hear wedding bells.
ian crossland
Let's have babies.
michael malice
Are you ready for number six?
tim pool
Take a look, maybe we can find him.
I'm not so sure it's lighter than air.
roseanne barr
People can't accept that it's fat.
michael malice
It's lighter, it would hit the space.
tim pool
It would float.
It would float to the top of the atmosphere.
I don't know if they show.
But anyway, it exists.
ian crossland
Do you want to talk about aerogel?
tim pool
Veritasium has a video on it.
So here's my point.
ian crossland
Yeah, there it is.
roseanne barr
What about rods from God?
Do you know about that?
ian crossland
Yes, that's right.
Thorium?
No, no.
tim pool
Tungsten?
ian crossland
Tungsten rods?
tim pool
Is it palladium?
But the amount of energy required to get that into space, you're storing the energy and then you have to maintain it.
michael malice
Wait, what are these rods from God?
tim pool
It's a theoretical weapon where we launch a tungsten rod into space and then keep it in orbit and when you release it, it's 10 times more powerful, 100 times more powerful than a nuclear bomb.
Because gravity just falls through.
But you have to use the same amount of energy to get into space, then you have to use energy to maintain its orbit, so people say it's not really feasible.
But here's my point about aerogel.
Aerogel being a solid, suppose you can make, like Ian mentioned, graphene aerogel, suppose you can actually make a super strong structure and then put components in it so it's now basically an airboat.
michael malice
You mean like Final Fantasy?
ian crossland
Yes.
tim pool
So with an airplane, with a jet, you have wings.
An airfoil creates lower pressure on the top, higher pressure on the bottom, causing it to lift.
Right.
Or, I don't know, I'm not an expert on flight.
But when we look at these UFOs, it could just be an ultralight solid which can hold weight and then actually displace enough air so that it's hard for it to go down and then uses standard thrust to move about very quickly.
roseanne barr
Bingo!
That's what I think they are.
tim pool
If you, wait, wait, wait, real quick, sorry.
Something that really blew my mind, I never considered until I played Horizon Forbidden West.
Do you know this video game?
michael malice
No, I don't.
It's a- I'm watching Arkanoid.
tim pool
Okay, hold on.
ian crossland
Oh, great game.
michael malice
Zero Dawn.
tim pool
And Forbidden West are video games where it's a post-apocalyptic world,
the world's been re-terraformed, spoiler alert, it's an old game.
But something I never considered.
In the new game, the character fights a guy who has a force field shield.
After defeating him, she takes the shield and she jumps off buildings, activating it,
and glides with it.
Cool.
And then I realized, if force fields existed, Humans could just fly using the force field because it's weightless and displaces matter.
The idea that you have a shield that weighs nothing, you'd parachute down.
And it would be weightless.
That's crazy.
Theoretically, if the force field could extend wide enough, you would not fall.
ian crossland
It's a lot like a boat.
tim pool
A boat in the water.
ian crossland
The boat has air and it's lighter than the water.
michael malice
We're sitting in a room with a rock star, so does hearing all this geek talk make you like, is this like garlic to a vampire?
Like, isn't this like the opposite of being a rock star?
Talking all this geek stuff?
unidentified
No, no, no, no.
phil labonte
Nowadays, the backstage, it's all nerds on their computer.
Like, the thicker the glasses the guitar player is wearing, the more likely it is that you're gonna die in that pit.
tim pool
And Phil was saying that backstage, all the time, they were playing D&D.
That's all they did.
phil labonte
That kind of stuff, yeah.
Their magic gathering, that does happen.
ian crossland
Oh, nice.
That is for the rock nerds.
roseanne barr
Well, rock star stuff is vibration and frequency and, like, sound and all that.
That's all that stuff.
michael malice
That's true.
That's a good point.
Yeah, yeah.
roseanne barr
That's all physics.
ian crossland
Yeah, the chimatics.
It's where you vibrate a membrane with sand on it.
It'll take these different patterns depending on the frequency.
michael malice
Wait, I got a question.
What's your karaoke song?
roseanne barr
Uh... Oh.
Um...
phil labonte
Mine's Baby Got Back.
ian crossland
Nice one.
roseanne barr
I like that one.
Yeah, my friend wrote a take off of that called Baby Got Front for girls.
It's so funny.
michael malice
What's your karaoke song though?
roseanne barr
Oh, um, Jake, what's my karaoke song?
You know karaoke.
unidentified
No one likes when you sing.
roseanne barr
That's true.
I can't remember.
Oh!
Cowboy Sweetheart.
michael malice
I like that one.
roseanne barr
Who sings that?
michael malice
I like that. What's yours Michael? Uh, probably take me home tonight. Oh, that's a good song.
unidentified
Eddie money. Oh, I love Eddie money. He's so good. I think I'm gonna go with plush by
ian crossland
Stone Temple Pilots. I like hitting those high notes. Oh, this is more off topic.
tim pool
What about you, Tim?
michael malice
No, I'm saying I just don't have one.
I can't believe we're having this conversation.
tim pool
But you're an actual singer.
michael malice
You must have a lot of songs that you like.
roseanne barr
Oh, no, it's We Are the Champions.
That's the one I like.
tim pool
I was just singing that because I just saw Bohemian Rhapsody, and that song's so good.
roseanne barr
It is the best song ever.
ian crossland
Doesn't it go into another song?
They always play the two back-to-back.
It's We Are the Champions and...
tim pool
We will rock you, yeah.
What was it, like, he doesn't say, of the world in the end?
That was a version that was made for the credits of, like, the Mighty Ducks or something.
michael malice
Oh.
tim pool
Everybody always... Yeah, everybody always sings, of the world in the end.
Something like that.
But it's not actually in the original song.
It's in, like, a remake.
michael malice
Oh.
tim pool
Something like that.
I could be wrong.
We're gonna go to Super Chats.
Before we do, you guys can ask about karaoke songs.
ian crossland
I'll finish up this metaphor about your boat in the air theory, because if you vacuum out a really strong piece of metal, then it becomes, you have the vacuum that's increasing how much lighter it is.
Anyway, we'll go deeper into that on another show.
roseanne barr
That's about atoms in space.
We have to talk about that.
tim pool
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over at TimCast.com, where you as members get to call in and ask questions of us and our guests.
michael malice
Talk to the audience, oh God, that's death.
Oh yeah, you're gonna love it.
tim pool
All right, here we go.
God's Other Son says, imagine going back to 1990 and telling people that one day Roseanne Barr would be better looking than Madonna.
roseanne barr
Everyone said that.
It was all over the place.
michael malice
It's true.
It's the truth.
roseanne barr
Wow.
michael malice
Take the compliment.
ian crossland
Did you know her back in the day?
roseanne barr
I did.
I met her a few times.
She's a very nice older woman.
unidentified
I feel so sad that when people get older... Shade!
The shade!
michael malice
I caught that.
I love you so much.
ian crossland
Our artists are kind of, I don't want to derail too much, but they're kind of like, they kind of speak for the, for the humanity, you know, like Chris Cornell overdosing, Prince overdosing.
It's like horrific because our society has fallen into that mess.
unidentified
And to see Madonna- A lot of people want out of here, you know, party your way out.
michael malice
A lot of people- Da Young stay pretty.
roseanne barr
Yeah.
tim pool
We have a very, very serious Super Chat.
D99 said, uh, 99Ted says, we had someone try to get our chickens today.
Tim always warned us, I just didn't think it would be this soon.
michael malice
Wait, really?
People steal chickens?
unidentified
Yeah.
roseanne barr
Of course!
michael malice
But what I'm, what I'm, what I'm warning about is- How much does a chicken cost?
phil labonte
Like, a couple bucks.
michael malice
Right?
ian crossland
Yeah, well it's all relative to the situation.
tim pool
A layer?
A hen that can lay eggs?
20 bucks.
Maybe more these days.
Uh, baby chicks are a couple dollars, five bucks.
Um, but it could be like 20 bucks.
roseanne barr
I had Japanese, I had all sort of UN kind of variety of chickens.
I had some Japanese.
michael malice
Did you say UN?
I thought UN!
roseanne barr
You know, a variety of countries.
tim pool
That's what Chicken City is basically.
We have a Polish rooster.
He's Luke.
We named him after Luke because Luke's Polish.
He's got a crazy haircut.
roseanne barr
But they can cost a couple hundred bucks.
michael malice
Oh yeah, the fancy breeders of course.
tim pool
Fancy breeds and the bigger ones and stuff.
michael malice
You should get a black one.
one with the black Japanese silkie what is it called? We have we I think we do
unidentified
have... They have black meat? We don't have those we have the silkies they have
tim pool
blue meat okay we do have the all black chickens okay they're complete even
their eyes and their feet and everything and then we have green eggs we do get
green eggs from a couple of our Easter I think they're Easter Eggers but then we
have Jersey Giants and they're they're black chickens and they're huge very big
And we have a Brahma.
We have a Brahma boy, because he, you know, Roberto, I think Roberto and Sarah had a baby, and she's a Brahma, he's a red-on-red, so.
But I was warning people is that when society collapses, you'll be in your house and you'll hear rustling, and you'll run out into the backyard and see some dude in a flannel shirt, suspenders, with a handlebar mustache, grabbing one of your chickens.
ian crossland
Just like Charles.
tim pool
Crying and being like, I'm just so hungry!
And you'll be like, put my chicken down!
And these urban liberal hipsters who are starving will be looting your farm for whatever they can eat.
roseanne barr
That's true.
I caught all these Asian folk in my yard over there in Hawaii.
I had ducks everywhere because I should have crushed their eggs, but they were cute.
I ended up with about 40 ducks in my backyard.
unidentified
Wow!
roseanne barr
And here come all these couple old Asian women with nets stealing my ducks.
And then my son says, oh, you know, mom, they work, they own that Chinese restaurant over there.
tim pool
They were really stealing your ducks?
roseanne barr
Yeah, they're cooking them and selling them.
I'm pretty sure it's illegal.
Well, not in Hawaii.
phil labonte
No, Hawaii, like there's all kinds of wild, like there's wild chickens everywhere.
tim pool
Yeah, I know, but migratory birds are federally protected, I'm pretty sure.
roseanne barr
Not in Hawaii.
michael malice
Not domesticated ducks.
They're not migratory.
They're not protected.
Domesticated ducks aren't protected.
tim pool
Right, but that's what I'm saying.
If they were just ducks randomly laying in their... Yeah, I guess they're not gonna be migratory in Hawaii.
roseanne barr
No, they live there.
So, you know, I'm like, that's cool.
tim pool
They're just... I got this important one from Patricia Swisher.
Michael, what's on your shirt?
michael malice
Oh, you can't see?
roseanne barr
That's a great shirt.
michael malice
Andrew Gillum?
You gotta move the mic.
unidentified
We can't really read, man.
There he is.
ian crossland
Andrew Gillum from Governor.
unidentified
Wow.
ian crossland
Who's Andrew Gillum?
Tell me.
roseanne barr
Didn't he run against the test?
tim pool
He's that guy who got found buck naked doing drugs in the hotel.
ian crossland
Tell me more.
phil labonte
He's the guy that likes to party.
michael malice
Yeah.
tim pool
On second thought, someone should have stopped him.
michael malice
Yeah, there you go.
unidentified
Someone should have at least said pump the brakes.
ian crossland
See, I don't know if I can take your Biden pick seriously for president, because you said you wanted a Biden... I said Biden... There was a big caveat.
michael malice
Biden with a huge Republican majority.
tim pool
But you also said he had to have... No, I said by Dan, not Biden.
ian crossland
...from Pennsylvania to be his VP.
michael malice
Fetterman.
Oh, yeah.
Biden-Fetterman is your call.
Fetterman is my answer.
Fetterman is absolutely my answer for a president.
phil labonte
Hey, Gazinia!
unidentified
Is that what he said?
ian crossland
Yes.
michael malice
I'll tweet it again. I'll tweet it again. Hey, it's in you.
unidentified
It's so sad. And everyone's like, yeah, he was on Time Magazine. This is no, no, no, that's
tim pool
fake. Is that real? When, when Joe Biden said, turn it on a shot of pressure and they went, yeah, I'm
unidentified
like, what is going on? Why are What is this?
tim pool
It's scary.
michael malice
What about the fact that person of the year was a high school dropout who's like mentally ill?
Greta Thunberg.
And everyone's like, oh my god, she's so smart!
Like, how privileged do you have to be to say I'm not going back to school until everyone on earth changes the weather for me?
phil labonte
I hate everything so much.
roseanne barr
I hate her too.
tim pool
I don't think she's not mentally ill, though.
You're incorrect.
michael malice
She had selective mutism.
She didn't talk to anyone.
tim pool
Developmentally disabled.
michael malice
Okay.
I'll take that correction.
tim pool
No, no, because I think mental illness refers to specific ailments and developmental disabilities.
michael malice
I'll accept that correction.
tim pool
I always take that very seriously, too, because people will see a video of a socialist and they'll be like, they're mentally ill.
I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Being wrong isn't a mental illness.
People who are developmentally disabled or who are indoctrinated are not mentally ill.
Their brains work just full of wrong information.
michael malice
Right.
roseanne barr
I have mental illness.
michael malice
What people don't understand is that under Tim's beanie, there's no top of the skull.
tim pool
It's just like the pulsating brain.
It's a void.
unidentified
So he's very sensitive to this issue.
roseanne barr
Well, I think she's on the autism... Very highly, yeah, yes.
michael malice
That's acknowledged, yeah.
tim pool
Right, right, right, right.
And that's fine.
michael malice
Most of my friends are.
tim pool
There is something particularly interesting about the... I tweeted something about this.
It said, Greta Thunberg with her... You know, let me pull up the tweet, because... I think it's... I'm gonna find that... Her parents are mentally ill, though.
michael malice
No, they're evil.
That's not the same.
roseanne barr
Oh yeah, you're right.
I keep forgetting that one.
phil labonte
They're definitely younger.
michael malice
I think they're very smart.
It's like Hollywood, where you pimp out your kid.
It's the same exact thing.
You've seen plenty of that in your lifetime, I'm sure.
tim pool
I said something like, with her zero years of a... Oh, here we go, here we go.
I'm just gonna read it.
I said, Greta is one of the most widely cited climate scientists.
With over zero years in the field and a staggering zero degrees and diplomas beyond grade school, Greta has taken the world by storm with her cursory knowledge skimmed from Google and rhetoric overheard from activists yelling in the street.
So the chat And then this is an April on 420 the amazing atheist has
cool, bro. What's your degree again? You're a political commentator
I'm like quite literally. Yes, I don't go to climate meetings and tell people how to change the weather
michael malice
I just retweeted the Federman clip. It's two seconds to do my Twitter if you want to feel bad time
ian crossland
I know five days ago. He's on Time magazine There's a lot of joy in seeing other people suffer, I assure you.
of Senator John Fetterman's battle with depression. So you put a guy with severe depression and mental
incapacity in and then you make an article about how much he's suffering now that he's in. Like,
why did you even do that in the beginning, people? That's what I want to know.
michael malice
I am not going to have you sit here and bash sadism.
I know you are, John.
unidentified
There's a lot of joy in seeing other people suffer, I assure you,
michael malice
and all kinds of joy, if you know what I mean.
tim pool
Let's read this one.
Jacob Furman says, Commenting on last night, listen to recent Jordan Peterson on Bill Maher and J.B.P.
said something like, Beauty and the Beast is the archetypal pornographic fantasy for women.
When will you get either of them on the show?
Writer's strike has Maher free now.
Jordan Peterson said that?
michael malice
You're not going to be able to get Beast on the show.
He's very hard to get.
ian crossland
Yeah, he's secluded.
tim pool
Which one?
X-Men or Disney?
michael malice
Or Disney, yeah.
Or mister.
tim pool
But wait, did Jordan Peterson really say that?
michael malice
But it makes a lot of sense, because the girl dates a guy who's like an animal, and then she civilizes him.
So it is archetypical.
tim pool
Like Fifty Shades of Grey?
michael malice
Yeah.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
michael malice
Is that what it is?
I'm sure that's what he means.
It's not too hard to wrap your head around.
tim pool
She civilizes him.
michael malice
She does, though.
He goes from a beast to this proper gentleman.
tim pool
I wanted to talk about a story we didn't get to because someone super chatted it, that someone made a mod for Skyrim where you can actually speak to a companion that's been programmed with chat GPT to respond to you in words, in English, in real time.
michael malice
Something like a Siri equivalent?
It's well beyond that.
tim pool
You're playing Skyrim, and you have a companion, and you say, where do you think we should go?
And then your companion says, I don't know, maybe we should go to Castle Ronorath.
ian crossland
White Run.
tim pool
So I was talking about this earlier, the AI apocalypse is here.
We are a few years away from seamless AI realities where you can talk to people and they can store memories.
You were mentioning calling them on the phone.
ian crossland
Yeah, when you log out of the game, you can just give them a call any time of day and bond with that NPC.
michael malice
I'm going to say something else.
I don't think this is very controversial.
ChatGPT, it's going to be ironic what I'm about to say, ChatGPT is more articulate than the average person.
tim pool
Of course.
michael malice
But I mean, that's a big deal.
roseanne barr
But then you can really stay in your psychotic cage.
michael malice
It's great.
I love it.
I never leave the house.
tim pool
How many people do you think will choose to live in the fake world?
michael malice
They choose it now.
unidentified
Like 90%.
ian crossland
People watching this show are kind of in a fake world.
tim pool
Do you blame them?
No, but check this out.
Michael, would you choose to live in fake reality?
michael malice
No.
tim pool
Why not?
michael malice
Because my life is pretty awesome.
tim pool
Yeah, that's right.
Now, what about some short, fat incel who can't get a job?
roseanne barr
Hey, don't bring me into this!
tim pool
Well, that's something.
michael malice
Oh, wait, I have a joke.
Let me see.
I want to sit there.
roseanne barr
I would choose to live in the artificial... I've got a joke.
michael malice
Hey, did you guys hear that Roseanne Barr is launching an airline?
All the flights are already cancelled.
roseanne barr
Not funny.
phil labonte
You know, you bring up talking about people that are happy in their lives is kind of the point you're getting people, but if you have that option of going into the Matrix or whatever, like what about the people that never get the chance to make their lives into something that they would choose over the Matrix?
tim pool
What's going to happen is conservatives, for several reasons, are overwhelmingly likely not going to choose the fake reality.
One, they're more likely to have families and not want to abandon them.
They're more likely to be good-looking and make more money.
For Michael, who says his life is pretty awesome, he wouldn't abandon that.
But for the average person, they would say, I'm happier and I'm special in my own world.
roseanne barr
Yeah, but then if you get to old people like 70 and above, such as myself, Hell yeah, I'd choose to live in an artificial world with everyone going, you are right!
michael malice
I can prove you're right in one sentence.
roseanne barr
You're right, you're beautiful.
michael malice
During COVID, people who were low status had the opportunity to increase their status by berating and dominating other people who weren't following the rules.
So we see very clearly they would love to be in this fake reality where they matter more than they matter in real life.
tim pool
And so what happens then, in the real world, policy will be set by those who are not in fake worlds.
So conservatives and libertarians, people who are successful and more attractive, will be in base reality, living their lives like normal, controlling government, and people who are weaker, less skilled, are going to retreat to fake realities.
roseanne barr
Well that's good then!
michael malice
And at the very top is going to be the anarchists, so...
I hope you guys are nice to me because I can't finish that sentence.
tim pool
So Glitch said, the reason I brought this up, shout out to Glitch for the super chat, the simulation is broken.
It is creating a new simulation inside of itself.
You will be in the pod, inside the pod.
ian crossland
Yeah.
I mean, I would go into a pod to go into the matrix, but I would come back out.
I get concerned when people forget they're in a matrix when they're in there.
So you need some sort of failsafe.
michael malice
So many people don't have self-awareness or introspection.
That's not a common thing.
It's surprisingly rare.
ian crossland
So what they see is real?
roseanne barr
Yeah, right.
michael malice
What they see is...
It's like, you know, Cesar Millan always says dogs don't think they react.
ian crossland
Is that like proved in psychology?
Is that like a known thing or is that just...
Are you just sensing that?
michael malice
He's just making it up.
I'm quoting Cesar Millan, the dog whisperer.
That's one of his quotes.
ian crossland
That people react?
michael malice
No, dogs don't think they react, and I'm saying people are the same.
phil labonte
Jonathan Haidt has a concept, the elephant and the rider.
So the elephant is your emotional reaction, and the rider is like... Your rational brain.
Yeah, you can kind of suggest to an elephant where to go, but if the elephant doesn't want to go where the rider directs, the elephant's not going there.
You know, and so the writer's really more just like PR.
Your elephant, which is your limbic system and your emotional reaction and stuff, your elephant just goes and does what it wants to do, and then your consciousness essentially rationalizes it and just basically tells the PR as to why you did it, even though it's actually more of a reaction than anything you ever thought of.
ian crossland
I was doing tricep curls, and I was like, do the fifth curl.
michael malice
That's not tricep curls, that's bicep curls.
ian crossland
Maybe it was a pull.
I was pulling, I was pulling on the rope, like this, pulling down like this.
And after the fourth one, I was like, ah!
I was wheeling my body, but nothing was moving, it didn't even hurt.
That's the rider telling the elephant to turn right, but he was like, it's lactic acid buildup, you can't even, your muscles aren't responding anymore.
michael malice
You should lower the weight. Don't do vanity lifts.
ian crossland
He just stopped me at four after that. He's like, you hit your max. That's the key.
Go up until you can't do it anymore.
tim pool
I want to read this one. Demoralize, exemplifying everything that I and others have said about DeSantis
supporters, says, So DeSantis finally did what you've been demanding of him,
firing bad staffers that hurt your feelings.
Are you finally going to praise him now like you promised you would?
Boy, that's- that's going to get DeSantis some support!
This is exactly my point.
Thank you for proving my point and exemplifying the exact issue.
phil labonte
When- The Zonerat has hurt feelings?
Are you an idiot?
tim pool
No, no, it's not that.
I don't care what he's saying, hurt feelings.
Saying hurt feelings is an attempt at an emotional slight.
It's meant to rile me up.
Why would I support DeSantis after that?
So my first assumption is this guy must hate DeSantis and desperately want to get influential personalities and shows to turn on DeSantis.
But DeSantis didn't say anything bad to me.
You did.
So then I have to wonder, like, is it intentional sabotage?
Unfortunately, there were members of DeSantis' own staff who were insulting me as well.
So I think it's just DeSantis supporters are incapable of formulating responses that will actually help the man win.
And DeSantis is incapable of leading his staff and his followers in helping him win.
michael malice
I'm going to say one more thing.
I know a lot of people on the DeSantis team, as do you, and I invited one who I met with in person on my show several times.
I only do deferential interviews.
I don't even push back.
And they just left me unread.
tim pool
They refused.
They refused.
michael malice
I'm like, this is an hour for you to have a commercial for your candidate.
I would not even be antagonistic in the slightest.
ian crossland
What do you mean unread?
They just didn't say anything?
michael malice
They didn't say anything.
tim pool
So, I don't do booking.
We have, for Culture Wars, Lisa Reynolds, and for the show, Cassandra Handles Booking.
michael malice
Or I book people sometimes without asking.
tim pool
You do.
My understanding is that the DeSantis people will not come on this show.
And we've been like, can we get someone who supports DeSantis to come on and have this conversation?
And they're just, they're terrified.
ian crossland
They're buried in it already.
michael malice
It's weird to be terrified because you are not going to be like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
You're going to have a very civil... And give them an opportunity to change your mind.
tim pool
And they can't.
michael malice
I don't understand that.
So the issue is this.
tim pool
Hey, Ron DeSantis lacks charisma.
There's no answer.
How do you respond to that other than, we're working on it?
But it makes him sound bad.
So you say something like, Jazz Jennings received trans surgery while Ron DeSantis was governor.
There's been no addressing it directly.
The answer is actually really simple.
Ron DeSantis did what he could and he passed laws.
michael malice
Yeah, that's fair.
tim pool
Instead, they just started tweeting at me that I was stupid, I was a moron, I was wrong, they lied.
michael malice
Well, both could be true.
Sure.
tim pool
But this is the point.
Instead of being like, hey man, look, we're really working on it, they started just dogpiling on me.
michael malice
That makes no sense to me.
tim pool
They want him to lose.
Strategically.
Like, these were like his PR people.
roseanne barr
I think that's true.
michael malice
I'm just saying this doesn't make sense to me because, like, I know enough about PR that it'd be very easy to say what you just said.
Right.
Or send you a one-pager that goes, this is what Ron DeSantis did to combat this issue in Florida, and this is what Trump hasn't done.
And just put it forward.
tim pool
Instead, they said, what an idiot.
Tim Pool's a moron.
He doesn't understand how laws work.
They said, Ron DeSantis doesn't have a time machine, and he can't fly to New York and change the laws.
And I'm just like, Huh?
I was like, why are you all tweeting at me?
Instead of just saying like, here's a link to a story and being like... Or a link to a press release.
Yeah.
It's so, it's just, they have no idea how to handle...
any of this. The other thing too is like you mentioned the polarization where it's like
if you oppose DeSantis you're a Trump supporter. Quite literally a prominent personality tweeted
I just can't get behind DeSantis after this he has he like he doesn't know how to handle his
campaign his PR and so they immediately said why won't you address Laura Loomer and Alex
Brucewitz and it's just like I'm talking about DeSantis.
That's an entirely different campaign and different people.
If all you can do in response to bad PR is point to someone else, I'll say, okay, great, you're both bad.
unidentified
Next question?
michael malice
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
But thanks for the comment.
I gotta say, I do believe some of these people are actually just trying to sink DeSantis.
Yeah, that's so weird.
Like, posts like this do nothing but get us saying negative things about his campaign.
roseanne barr
Well, think of how many people that were working for Trump did that to him.
michael malice
Yeah, that's a good point.
That's a great point, Roseanne.
roseanne barr
That's how they are.
Like, I think that so many of the people on the right are just Democrats in disguise.
tim pool
Yeah.
Alright, PTB says, we're gonna have to start a Roseanne was right jar.
roseanne barr
Yeah!
michael malice
All right.
tim pool
Four months, four months.
roseanne barr
I'll match it and we'll give it to charity or somebody who needs it or something.
tim pool
If the end of the year, so we have to December 31st?
michael malice
Yes.
tim pool
To be fair, or to January, if by, you know, January 1st at midnight.
roseanne barr
Okay.
michael malice
Military tribunals.
tim pool
Tribunals.
michael malice
And then the election next year.
tim pool
And so after that, we should have a follow-up or something.
Yeah.
And then, you know, what are you gonna do with the money?
michael malice
It would be a great excuse for you to come back to Austin.
Oh yeah, we're beginning of January.
Oh, that'd be cool.
unidentified
Yeah.
michael malice
We'll both be back on.
roseanne barr
We'll have a big ol' party.
tim pool
Why don't we do an event, like a venue, and we'll call it the... Roseanne was wrong, there were no military tribunals.
roseanne barr
Okay, that's fine.
michael malice
No, no, we'll call it Roseanne on Trial.
And we can even do a little roast!
roseanne barr
You can roast me, and we can give money to some good cause.
tim pool
I say we do it, because in the event the tribunals do happen, it's going to be good to have the event ready to talk about how we're all wrong.
unidentified
You know what?
michael malice
Let's raise money for, what's it called, RAIN, which is for kids who had had to deal with child abuse.
So that is something I think is a really big issue that isn't talked about enough, and it's too politicized.
I don't know who's in charge.
I could be getting the name wrong, but let's talk.
tim pool
It might have to be, like, second or third week of January.
michael malice
Point being, like, let's use it to raise money for, like, a cause that everyone agrees with is a problem.
tim pool
Yeah, sounds good.
ian crossland
Have you seen Sound of Freedom?
michael malice
Not yet.
ian crossland
Oh, man, you will.
tim pool
Do you think... Rogan's venue's probably totally booked, and he only does comedy anyway.
roseanne barr
He'll let us do it.
tim pool
You think so?
roseanne barr
Yeah.
michael malice
But there's lots of places in Austin.
roseanne barr
And there's another one down the street that'll let us do it too.
We could combine them.
tim pool
Comedy Mothership would be the coolest thing ever.
michael malice
It would be a comedy element.
tim pool
But we're not really a comedy, it would be a comedy element.
michael malice
It should be a trade, you know?
It's not comedy like the law that it has to be comedy shows at his club.
roseanne barr
No I know.
michael malice
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
roseanne barr
So we can have comics.
tim pool
They may be booked out.
ian crossland
It's like funny story.
unidentified
Funny.
tim pool
Probably booked out.
unidentified
Get you.
michael malice
I don't know.
phil labonte
Dave Smith.
michael malice
Ask him.
phil labonte
And Louis Gomez.
michael malice
No, you said they want comics.
phil labonte
Now you have not failed.
tim pool
Oh, but maybe we actually do.
We'll bring some comics.
michael malice
That would be terrific.
roseanne barr
That'd be so fun.
We could have a political comedy kind of thing.
phil labonte
A roast!
ian crossland
Have you been roasted before?
michael malice
Yeah, Comedy Central.
It's hilarious.
Go watch it.
ian crossland
Is it fun or does it suck?
roseanne barr
It's so fun.
You can't wait to hear what they're going to say.
michael malice
The thing that I found with people who are famous, everyone's scared to make fun of them, but she's a comedian, right?
So if you're cracking jokes at her, she's peeing her pants, but everyone's scared to do it.
unidentified
So there were some good no, no, no, the general your pants is not you're not
michael malice
project your what people I learned about being friends with you is you're
surprised I'm much more pretentious than you are in you but you're in a position
to be so if people make jokes with you you laugh or you say that's not funny
roseanne barr
but you're not offended no I love a good yeah no matter who it's at so that's
That'd be fun.
But you guys are all going to be owing the money, I'm telling you.
michael malice
Okay, Boomer.
tim pool
It's going to be very funny when Michael writes a check and hands it to you.
michael malice
Yeah, it will be funny.
Because at least she knows what a check is.
phil labonte
I want Roseanne to be right, but I think that you're going to be paying up.
tim pool
Wait, wait, wait, hold on.
unidentified
Are you in?
tim pool
Did you put money in?
Michael, what if the military tribunal is for Trump officials?
michael malice
Then she wins.
tim pool
Okay.
Any military tribunal at all?
michael malice
I mean, it's got to be like large scale.
It's not like one guy's in a military tribunal.
That happens every day anyway.
unidentified
It's got to be, you know, it's got to be public on TV.
roseanne barr
Yeah, public and on TV.
michael malice
And it's got to be... Let's trust him to be the judge to see who wins if it's a gray area.
Okay.
Cause you're- I mean, I'll call the audience and ask them.
Sure, that's fair too.
You're on the fence.
roseanne barr
Tribunals, period.
ian crossland
That means there's, say, three or more judges that would try- I'm sorry, we'll do an ex-poll.
roseanne barr
Military tribunal.
ian crossland
So it has to be three judges at least.
roseanne barr
It's a military tribunal, which is different from a Department of Justice trial.
ian crossland
But it has to be three judges, I think, for the tri in the tribunal.
michael malice
Oh, for the tri tribunal.
ian crossland
I think so, I don't know.
At least three judges?
I don't know.
roseanne barr
I think it's a judge.
phil labonte
It's three officers of, I believe, general rank.
michael malice
I found the spook.
phil labonte
Is that what it is?
michael malice
I want to read this, uh, Rusty Razor says... And there's three zeros in a thousand dollars that you're going to be giving me.
tim pool
That's right.
ian crossland
Exactly.
roseanne barr
He didn't put no money in.
michael malice
No, you.
tim pool
Rusty Razor superchatted us saying, around 1996, researchers from the University of Alabama at Huntsville created a Bose-Einstein condensate that cancelled gravity above it.
The story is in Pop Mechanics and Pop Sci, or Pop Sci.
The researchers disappeared.
They disavowed their work years later.
So they reappeared?
Where did they reappear?
They just came back?
roseanne barr
They went down there to Antarctica.
tim pool
To Hogwarts!
ian crossland
The Bose-Einstein condensate is an interesting phenomenon that I have very little information about.
roseanne barr
Well, you better get busy.
unidentified
That's the God particle, right?
Do I have that right?
ian crossland
No, you're thinking of the Higgs boson.
unidentified
That all sounds the same to me.
ian crossland
Bose was a scientist that apparently Einstein ripped off a lot.
People credit Einstein with a lot of his discoveries, but Bose was the actual mathematician.
roseanne barr
No, Emily Nether was the mathematician.
michael malice
That's a girl's name.
ian crossland
Emily Nether.
roseanne barr
N-O-E-T-H-E-R.
She was his real mathematician.
michael malice
No more Super Chats?
tim pool
We've got a bunch.
I'm reading through them while you guys are talking.
ian crossland
Emily Nother.
tim pool
We'll grab another one.
Toy News Daily says, most likely in three years, every phone will come with an AI assistant, Siri 2.0 will do everything, personal assistant for anything you want to do.
michael malice
They kind of have versions of that already, somewhat.
roseanne barr
Every what?
tim pool
Everything you want to do.
We're very close to the point where you'll literally just call your phone by name, and the name is effectively a passcode for activation, so it'll be like, enter a name, an activation code, and you'll say, like, you know, Make reservations at 7 o'clock.
Yeah, 7 o'clock reservations.
I might be late.
Set it up for me.
No one at the restaurant will talk to anybody.
It'll be done.
Yeah, the network will do it.
You'll show up and they'll say welcome.
This is how it's going to be.
michael malice
And yet in 2023, we got to take calls from the audience.
tim pool
When I was flying back from Vegas on United, they changed my flight without telling me.
It was Vegas to Houston to DC, and then at 2 in the morning, while I was asleep, it changed to Vegas to Denver to DC.
And from first class to coach.
michael malice
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
Without a refund or anything, so, you know, that's gotta be fraud or something.
michael malice
And let me thank Roseanne, because because you came here, they flew me first class.
So I feel like a big shot today.
tim pool
But, uh, there were no humans involved.
There were... the customer service was a robot.
Robot couldn't answer anything.
This is the future.
ian crossland
I ordered from McDonald's for the first time in five years.
michael malice
I'd rather work with the robot than with the human.
You've seen who's out there.
ian crossland
At McDonald's, there's no humans.
I just ordered on a machine and then they got my order.
The guy that gave it to me gave it to me wrong.
michael malice
There never were.
tim pool
Hold on.
Wait, we gotta read this one.
roseanne barr
Well, sometimes they try to make it right.
michael malice
Yeah, your way kinda.
tim pool
NoName99, NoFace88 says, Roseanne, you are awesome.
Tim, you did good getting her to come on.
unidentified
He did?
I did.
Oh my god!
Oh my god!
I didn't even know she was coming.
tim pool
I was just sitting.
Michael's like, I got a surprise.
He's all giddy and laughing.
michael malice
That is a good Michael impression.
That's fair.
tim pool
He's so excited.
And then Roseanne walks in.
She's like, hi.
And I'm like, oh, it's Roseanne.
And then he's like, oh, I had a whole speech.
michael malice
She was going to walk in.
unidentified
We had to get the picture for the thumbnail.
roseanne barr
Oh, it was fun.
It was fun to come.
tim pool
Well, I appreciate it.
We still have the Members Only show in a few minutes.
roseanne barr
Can I go to the bathroom and smoke before we do that?
unidentified
Yes, you can.
roseanne barr
I don't know what y'all are talking about with games and this shit for young people, so I'll recuse myself for a cigarette.
tim pool
With that being said, smash the like button if you haven't already, subscribe to the channel, go to TimCast.com.
Become a member.
We're going to jump to the Members Only segment in just a few minutes.
You can follow the show at TimCast IRL.
You can follow me at TimCast.
Michael, do you want to shout out?
michael malice
Michael Malice on Twitter and the White Pill book.
I hope you all read it and enjoy it.
It's why I'm hopeful for the future of this country.
tim pool
Do you want to, Roseanne, do you want to shout out your show before you?
michael malice
The Roseanne Barr Show, wherever podcasts are available.
I'm on the... RoseanneBarr.com.
And RoseanneBarr.com.
Follow her on Twitter.
I got her her real Twitter account back.
At the real Roseanne.
That's right.
Chaos Demon!
unidentified
Nice work, dude!
ian crossland
Yeah, I would say proud of myself.
Demons are not always evil.
michael malice
That's correct.
ian crossland
I got it good.
phil labonte
I am Phil LaBonte.
The band is All That Remains.
We are available on Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, that whole deal.
michael malice
You go to the bathroom right there, Rosanne.
ian crossland
Hi.
unidentified
Okay.
ian crossland
Hi, everyone.
I'm Ian Crossland.
Follow me at iancrossland.net.
We're gonna make some magic tonight.
Good to see you, Rosanne.
I'll see you in a little bit.
Yeah, dude.
I'm all about the gemstones.
This is a ruby.
michael malice
Is that really a ruby?
ian crossland
This is legit ruby.
They make rubies in the lab, but the ones from Earth are a little different.
tim pool
We got you a gem in Tijuana, and Luke charged it in the ocean for you.
unidentified
Oh, good!
tim pool
Thank you, Luke!
ian crossland
Thank you, sir.
Alright, guys.
We'll see you on the after show.
tim pool
Kellen?
unidentified
Uh, yeah.
I am Kellen.
You guys can follow me everywhere at kellenpdl.
I was gonna tell Roseanne that the chat absolutely loved her tonight.
I was laughing the whole time, just reading people's comments and everything.
But, uh, yeah.
Awesome show.
tim pool
Alright, we'll see you all over at TimCast.com in a few minutes.
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