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July 24, 2023 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Timcast IRL - Obama Staffer Found DEAD On Obama Property, Accident Presumed w/Dave Landau
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ian crossland
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tim pool
The body of an Obama staffer was found on the Obama's property.
This is their chef.
It is presumed to be an accident, but this story is big, and of course, the conspiracy theories are already coming out, but, uh, eh, you know, we don't need to entertain the actual conspiracies, but we can talk about them, at the very least, and just generally give you the news on the story, because it actually is really, really big.
People are wondering what happened, how it happened, and why his chef was presumably paddleboarding in a pond near his estate.
We got other really big news!
This one's crazy, uh, Twitter is gone.
It is now X. There's still remnants of Twitter, the app is still called Twitter in many places, but on the actual website, on the browser version, the Twitter bird is gone, it's an X now, and they're slowly changing these, uh, the title.
Many of the employees are now saying X instead of Twitter.
Elon Musk says they're no longer called Tweets, they're called X.
Which just doesn't work.
You can't speak it.
So I don't know what his plan is there.
But, uh, exciting stuff nonetheless.
He's gonna be transforming Twitter into the Everything app, which has horrifying implications, if you ask me, considering the AI that they're gonna be integrating.
I do think there's a lot of good that can come from this.
I do generally like what Elon Musk does, but it's gonna get interesting.
And then we got a whole bunch more news.
New evidence implicating Joe Biden being on phone calls, according to testimony from Devin Archer, with With Hunter and Hunter's Associates, so, okay.
And then we've got a story coming out about a man who has, I guess, super COVID.
They're calling it MERS.
And some people believe this could be what leads to another lockdown.
Who knows?
An election is coming up.
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I'm back!
Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Dave Lando.
dave landau
Hey, how are you, sir?
tim pool
I'm really great, actually.
unidentified
Good!
tim pool
All patched up.
dave landau
That's what I heard.
You went down to Mexico.
tim pool
I went down to Tijuana.
dave landau
And they fixed up your hip?
You just took one kidney?
tim pool
Yeah, only one.
dave landau
Which is good.
tim pool
It's a fair trade.
I ended up getting spared the surgery.
This was fantastic.
Shout out to the Cellular Performance Institute.
Y'all may have heard of them on Joe Rogan.
Eddie Bravo was talking about it.
And I went down there because If I did not, I would have only just gotten my MRI a couple days ago.
I'd still be waiting for the follow-up consultation.
Insane.
I go down there on day one, x-rays, blood work, MRI, and the long story short of it is I did not need to get surgery, which is a huge relief.
dave landau
That's awesome.
I have a physical in June of 2026, so I'm excited about it.
tim pool
It takes forever.
dave landau
Dude, seriously, they're like four months from now, every time I call, I'm like, why is it?
All right, great.
I hope this isn't cancer, what I found.
tim pool
I'm in an Uber and the Mexican guy is just like, Americans are always coming down here for medical care.
And I'm like, unsurprising.
It's crazy, right?
dave landau
That's why they tell you that they just behead you at the border.
They just try to tell you that.
They're like, the second you get here, cartel, you're dead.
tim pool
It's actually the opposite.
What I'm told is the cartels protect you.
dave landau
Really?
tim pool
Yeah, rich Americans come to Tijuana.
They don't want to lose that money.
dave landau
No!
tim pool
So, there are crazy stories about, like, locals who will rob a tourist, and then the cartels find out who did it, and let's just say it doesn't go well for those people.
dave landau
Oh, that's awesome.
tim pool
They love- look, American tourists need to be safe and feel safe.
If word gets out that you're not safe in these cities, they lose all that money.
They're not fans of that.
dave landau
So go back to sandals.
That's what you're saying.
tim pool
Tijuana was amazing, man.
It was really great.
dave landau
I haven't been there in 20 years, honestly, and it was really fun the last time I went.
tim pool
I gotta be honest, some of the best food I've ever tasted in my life.
dave landau
Oh, dude.
tim pool
Crazy.
But who are you?
What do you do?
I think everybody knows you.
dave landau
I'm a comic.
I have a new show called Normal World.
Ian's been on it.
And yeah, check it out.
It's on The Blaze, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, 10 p.m.
Eastern.
And yeah, that's about it.
And my schedule, DaveLanda.com.
tim pool
Awesome.
Well, thanks for hanging out.
We've also got Hannah-Claire Brimelow.
hannah claire brimelow
Hi, I'm still here.
I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlaw.
I'm a writer for TimCast.com.
I'm so happy to be here with all of you, and I'm here with Ian.
ian crossland
Thank you, Hannah-Claire.
Yes, Dave, you mentioned Normal World.
We did the first episode I was on with you guys.
dave landau
Yes.
ian crossland
Drugtopia.
dave landau
You starred in Drugtopia, one of the finest shorts ever made.
ian crossland
Here's to many more, my friend.
That was gorgeous to work on.
dave landau
Dude, you were great in it.
Seriously, you were Robert Downey Jr.
in that.
That's what I'm talking about.
ian crossland
This last week I've been on a physical transformation working out.
I cut all this weight to do the first scene of this music video we're working on.
I've gained like five or six pounds now and it has been emotional.
I don't know about you guys if you've ever done workout and like the way that, and I'm already, I think because I'm an actor, or have been, that I'm emotional.
I kind of work off how I feel about things, and it's really damaging to my friendships and my relationships if I don't have it under control.
So this has been like a new learning experience for me, man.
Watch out, I am like a rampaging bull right now.
tim pool
I'm turning into a meathead.
ian crossland
I'm gonna get some therapy, and then I think maybe that'll help me balance myself out a little bit and get jacked and healthy.
tim pool
I noticed it right when I got here.
Like the first time I saw Ian, I'm like, you can tell that workout and food and everything is... Biceps today, and after the first rep, Of, like, ten, even.
ian crossland
I was like, oh, my muscles were, like, tight and large.
It was crazy.
hannah claire brimelow
I've noticed a physical change, but you seem, like, very energetic, happy.
It's really interesting.
ian crossland
Yeah, it's definitely another kind of energy.
You carry yourself differently right now.
That's for sure.
tim pool
Ian's testosterone is going to go through the roof, and he's going to get super conservative.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
That's true.
I've got to prove it.
dave landau
It does come with it.
tim pool
It does.
When you work out, you become right.
ian crossland
I want to protect.
It's true.
I do have that intuition is kicking on in me, this desire to protect.
It's really wild.
tim pool
We got Callan.
unidentified
What's up, everybody?
Yeah, Ian's, if you walk by him now in the hallways, he just shoulders you real hard, so we are seeing a change.
But yeah, I'm Callan.
I'm filling in for Serge.
Ahoy, Dave.
Good to see you again.
dave landau
Ahoy to you, my friend.
tim pool
And I get back from, you know, this week-long retreat, and Seamus is just gone.
hannah claire brimelow
Interesting.
Suspicious, no?
tim pool
And I know that there were spoons.
And they're gone too!
ian crossland
True story.
dave landau
I went down- There's two guitars missing.
hannah claire brimelow
Thursday night after- $10,000.
tim pool
All of my potatoes.
ian crossland
Where's the cat?
Good question.
I went down to eat my 600 calories after the show on Tuesday and there were no forks.
And then I was like- Seamus walked by.
And I was like, oh god.
tim pool
Is he kind of a fork guy though?
ian crossland
I don't know.
dave landau
I just don't trust him anymore.
tim pool
I'll just say two very quick things before we jump into the news.
We already got a bunch of super chats.
One person said, please don't leave again.
All Seamus does is talk about the Bible.
And then someone else said, Seamus did great.
I love that he talked about the Bible.
unidentified
That sums up the week.
hannah claire brimelow
Look, religion is apparently the spice of life.
Occasionally you need to have a good old Catholic host the show.
tim pool
But a special thank you to Seamus.
Seamus Coghlan of Freedom Tunes.
He hosted the show for the week while I was at the doctor.
I was basically sitting in a recliner with a bunch of tubes and fluids and stuff and vitamin drips and blood work and MRIs.
I saw a lot of dolphins.
Because the clinic is on the beach in Tijuana and I saw the border too and I actually walked up to the border and I had this like profound moment of realization looking at this massive hole ripped into the the Tijuana border and I'm just like you could just walk right through it no joke and then there's like a border patrol guy on the other side and then I just had this realization about the decline of culture and Everything starts coming together as to why it's all falling apart, and we'll talk about it on the show.
Let's jump into the first story in that regard.
Here we go!
Let's get into the news.
We got this from TimCast.com.
Human remains of missing paddleboard are found in pond at Obama's Martha's Vineyard Estate.
The man has been described as a black 43-year-old, but his identity has not been made public.
Now, at the time of this writing, we did not know.
Now we know that it was Obama's chef.
Obama's chef was, uh, paddleboarding.
This is, uh, Dom Lucre says, dead body found at Obama's Martha's Vineyard estate in search for a black 43-year-old male paddleboarder who drowned in the pond attached to the estate.
9-1-1 call was made from ex-president's $12 million property night.
Last night, sorry.
And, uh, shortly before 10 a.m., the body of the missing paddleboarder was recovered from Edgartown Great Pond by Massachusetts State Police divers.
MSP underwater recovery unit made the recovery after the victim's body was located.
So, OK.
It was his chef.
unidentified
OK.
tim pool
What's going on?
dave landau
Well, Michel did say he was like family.
It's just too bad he knew too much.
tim pool
So this is the thing, right?
What's the most likely scenario, Occam's razor?
Obama's chef went for a paddleboard ride. Most likely. Drown.
dave landau
I mean it's not a Clinton. If it was a Clinton chef, you'd already find the bullet hole.
ian crossland
Did you see that interview?
Maybe like drowning.
tim pool
They would say, sorry, they would say, uh, he drowned. They would say he asphyxiated underwater because the water
entered the bullet hole in his lungs.
ian crossland
If you haven't seen the Patrick Ben David, Anthony Weiner interview, when he talks about the Clinton body count,
Anthony Weiner goes off the rails for like 20 minutes.
It's hilarious.
dave landau
Oh, Anthony Comey and I did it once and it's like, how many people commit suicide running through the woods yelling help and get shot in the back?
hannah claire brimelow
It's just a normal thing that happens.
I don't know why you would question that.
tim pool
To be fair, you know, so I've gone through the Clinton body count thing, and some of these things are big stretches.
Some of them are really weird.
dave landau
Yeah, some of them are a bit exaggerated.
tim pool
I do agree they're exaggerated.
There was that journalist in the 90s, I think it was in the 90s, he was like working on the CIA, and then they said he killed himself by shooting himself twice in the head, whatever.
And then people will try to explain it away, like, well, sometimes, you know, these horrible things happen, people fail, and they try again, and it's like, okay, sure, whatever.
But a lot of them are like, an accountant at an insurance firm that Clinton's once used, and I'm like, oh, come on.
ian crossland
Or a plane crash, like, unrelated.
dave landau
Yeah, they do play a lot of Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon in order to get there in The Connection.
A lot of them are just like, I think they met once at a cocktail party, but then there are some that make no sense at all.
tim pool
For sure.
And the question is, is this because the Clintons are doing really evil things?
Yes.
Or is it?
They are.
Oh, sorry.
But I'm saying in this specific context.
dave landau
Yes.
tim pool
Like in terms of, you know, the Clinton Global Foundation and the donations.
But the question is, like, are they just very powerful people who are very well connected with other very, very powerful people in a tight circle?
So you hear stories about security, military, prominent intelligence.
Those things happen all the time.
My point is, is it unique to the Clintons?
Or if you actually looked, would you find something similar with the Obamas?
probably and that's not to say that the obama's anything wrong with
the clinton's harmed anyone i'm saying
when you're in these powerful positions of wealth and prestige in international
relations i mean come on you know
ian crossland
that's not the united states and i a m yeah like that we're not in this like
lovable rainbow and and butterfly democracy that we have been living right
now uh... power struggles and and
people's lives like i don't think like it expectancy is very high in the center of power
in my communist dictatorships or anything people often their friends
unidentified
there their co-workers now i am gonna pull up this one you to clip
tim pool
and just say because as a from the ring cam
dave landau
No, it's from... It's not from their kitchen cam?
tim pool
It's from a Marvel movie.
dave landau
Are you sure?
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
We should have set ring cam.
tim pool
So when I read this story, this is the first thing I thought of.
I immediately was like, what's that movie?
Where the guy is like in his house and the cleaning lady leaves and then she comes back in because she forgot something and the guy goes, ah, Winter Soldier.
And we have it right here.
I'm not going to play the clip.
I just want to show you this.
This is the scene.
So what's his name?
Alexander Pierce.
He's talking with the Winter Soldier, who's like this former Soviet assassin.
dave landau
Yeah, the other Obama chef.
tim pool
That's right.
The cleaning lady leaves.
And then she like forgets her phone and she walks back in and then Pierce is sitting there and he goes, Oh, Renata, I wish you would have knocked.
And then he just shoots her.
dave landau
Yeah.
tim pool
And so it's like, that's the first thing I thought of.
Like, why would the chef be paddle boarding the Obama's house?
It's like, I understand you're a chef.
But, like, we have people who come and clean the office.
They don't hang out in our backyard and go skating.
Like, if you found them in our, you know, deer blind or whatever, it'd be weird.
hannah claire brimelow
It's like a level of comfort you're not expecting.
I will say there are some private chefs, especially with these, like, more remote private estates, you know, that'll come spend the week there and they have a place that they stay and maybe he just had, like, the afternoon off.
dave landau
He probably lives there is my guess, yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, but it is weird.
dave landau
But we have seen the rapids of a pond.
ian crossland
Yeah, there's another person, allegedly, with him.
Is that confirmed or denied?
hannah claire brimelow
I don't know.
Also, were the Obamas there at the time?
I don't know.
That's kind of what I wanted to know.
dave landau
I wonder how big the pond is.
Also, it's hot.
There's a heat wave.
Could have been drinking.
hannah claire brimelow
Or, like, if you just fell off and hit your head.
That does happen.
You know what I mean?
ian crossland
Someone called 911, apparently.
They called it in, so someone knew he was under the water.
Who was it?
tim pool
So is this... I mean, maybe he was drowning and they were like, help, help.
dave landau
That's very possible.
I feel like there'd be more we would know.
I just hope everyone's okay.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I hope everyone's okay.
It does seem like we're not getting all the details, right?
dave landau
Yeah, it feels like something's being hidden, and I think it's always because it's an ex-president.
hannah claire brimelow
And I think it's weird that we haven't gotten a, like, because we haven't gotten a, the Obamas were not there at the time, that makes me assume they were on the estate, which, like, might explain why their personal chef was there, but also, I don't know, I just, I feel like there's something off.
tim pool
The Postmillennial has this, they say, in the past, Campbell is his name, Uh, wrote the words still can't swim in a hashtag on Instagram.
hannah claire brimelow
So then why was he paddle boarding?
ian crossland
On eight feet of water?
tim pool
Is that, is that what it was?
I mean, ponds are not very big.
dave landau
It's a foot and a half off.
tim pool
What is a pond?
ian crossland
They're muddy at the bottom, so if he hit the bottom his feet might have got tangled up.
dave landau
That's true, it's like quicksand in Mario.
hannah claire brimelow
Or like I'm saying, if he like lost balance and there's one rock there and he hits his head and then it's that he's unconscious and then he drowns.
Like that sounds awful, but the reality is occasionally these things happen.
dave landau
No they do.
hannah claire brimelow
No foul play.
tim pool
So what defines what a pond is?
It says, uh, the technical distinction between a pond and a lake has not been universally standardized, blah blah blah.
Some region of the U.S.
defined pond as a body of water with a surface area of less than 10 acres.
You know what?
I can just pull up satellite images of Martha's Vineyard.
unidentified
Yeah, that's a good point.
ian crossland
Like if I was there with the dude and he fell off his paddleboard, I would immediately go in the water after the guy.
dave landau
Yeah.
ian crossland
It means we were both blazingly hammered or something like it.
hannah claire brimelow
More like you go in and he's still unconscious when you get him out, you still have to call 911.
dave landau
I feel like in my drinking days I would have gone in for sure.
Like that wouldn't have prevented it at all.
hannah claire brimelow
That may not have helped at all.
dave landau
I would have been more heroic.
I would have been like, I got this guy, I'm a swimmer.
ian crossland
With one arm.
dave landau
Yeah, and then someone would have came in and got us both.
tim pool
So I only have a general idea of where the Obama's house is.
dave landau
It's Martha's Vineyard, but I don't know where.
tim pool
Yeah, but there is an area that's called a pond.
I'm not gonna... I don't want to pull it up because I don't want to... Everybody knows where his house is.
You can google it, but I'm just... But there is a pond.
It's pretty big.
It's pretty big.
I don't know how deep it is, but it looks, like, decently large enough to go paddleboard on.
And, you know, so, I don't know.
I suppose everybody, there's going to be a lot of people who would prefer it to be some kind of deeper conspiracy, but the sad reality is... Probably not.
Some dude who couldn't swim probably just fell off his paddleboard.
dave landau
I just probably had a couple.
tim pool
Ah, yeah.
Good point.
hannah claire brimelow
You're saying he was found at a depth of 8 feet and about 100 feet from the edge of the shore of the Asian Great Pond.
dave landau
Yeah, that's not good.
So that seems... He probably didn't get out very far and realized the pedal board sucks.
He was like, I'm gonna go back.
Slipped.
tim pool
To Fari Campbell.
He was a sous chef at the White House during the Obama administration and stayed on with
the family when they moved to a private life.
So I guess the question is, did he live with them?
dave landau
Probably if he stayed with them for that long.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
dave landau
He's probably lived at the house.
hannah claire brimelow
And I think that's not crazy depending on like how big and how wealthy you are.
Like housekeepers sometimes live in like wealthy people's houses.
dave landau
Yeah, mine does.
tim pool
Eight feet.
hannah claire brimelow
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
That's crazy.
unidentified
Could you imagine like being... I have one of their bodies.
tim pool
Just two feet of water above you, and you're like, there is air.
And you can't get to it?
unidentified
No.
hannah claire brimelow
Especially like, how tall is this guy, right?
Like if he's over six feet, that's just two feet, like... Yeah, for me I'd be like, it's pretty far.
dave landau
But for him, that's a distance.
tim pool
You know what I don't understand?
I don't understand not being able to swim.
Well... I understand some people can't.
dave landau
I'm just saying... You grew up with a pool.
Or access to one.
unidentified
That's how he got his name. Sometimes. I mean you're Tim Pool. That's right. You know how to swim.
This guy, he was born swimming. We didn't swim ever. I mean, did you get swimming lessons? What I don't get is how to
dave landau
just go like this though to get up to the surface. Like I feel like dogs do that. You gotta learn to cup your fingers.
ian crossland
That's the biggest part. Yeah.
tim pool
You know. So what I was told when I was little, sideways, when I was younger, because I asked like how do people not
know how to swim?
It's because they panic.
And they just start hitting the water instead of actually just aspirating.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, there was that actress, is it Naya Rivera?
She was in Glee, and she drowned one or two years ago at this point.
part of the story was like it's not that drowning's happened so often there but she was getting her son out of the water and they think just in in that circumstance it's not that she couldn't swim but like the panic of trying to get her child out and whatever was happening oh that's right yeah wasn't that in like the ocean or something i think it was california on a lake but i could be slightly wrong i think that's one of the weird things about drowning people feel like Hopefully some part of your brain kicks in and says, get to the surface.
But if you're really panicked, you can become kind of irrational.
tim pool
Well, it's not so.
unidentified
So my understanding is I had a friend who drowned recently in a pool, though, and he grew up with a pool.
dave landau
I might have hit his head.
tim pool
It's an involuntary reaction.
When you begin drowning, that's what happens is the water goes in your mouth, you try to breathe, and then people's hands go straight out and they just panic.
Like not, I shouldn't say panic.
That's not what I'm trying to say.
It's like an involuntary reaction.
And people don't realize they're drowning because they're not freaking out and splashing like crazy.
They're just sitting there at the water level.
dave landau
I think what it is is God created a water world and a land world and we're invading it.
ian crossland
Yeah, we kept the salt water inside of us.
dave landau
Yeah, like we shouldn't be in there messing around with their habitat.
You don't see whales walking around.
We take them and bring them here.
tim pool
Could you imagine if like dolphins built land ships and were just like driving around?
dave landau
Yeah, just like looking at us.
hannah claire brimelow
You're anti-water sports?
dave landau
Watching you throw a hole in the fence.
ian crossland
I think about that a lot.
We're like amoeba that have created this sealant around our saltwater.
We just carry it around with us.
It's freaking wild.
dave landau
Right, it is.
Yeah, so I think we should just stay out of there.
It's our fault.
ian crossland
What have we done?
Are we amphibious?
dave landau
Yeah, we've brought it upon ourselves.
hannah claire brimelow
You don't think it's Obama.
You think this man who drowned knew too much about the water.
He saw something there.
dave landau
They saw him and they were like, what are you doing?
unidentified
people in the pond were like get it get it. They were like, look, we've made it clear.
dave landau
Yeah, you don't know what's living in there. The naga. We don't know what he took from
the White House. Like, you could take one thing and he took like a monster that lives in ponds.
unidentified
Yeah. Let's, let's, let's, let's, uh, let's jump onto the next really-
dave landau
Did I go too far in this man's death? I'm sorry.
tim pool
Let's jump onto the next very big story.
We have this from TimCast.com.
Twitter rebrands as X. There it is, ladies and gentlemen.
Elon Musk says, not sure what subtle clues gave it away, but I like the letter X, and that's the new logo.
I really like how he tweeted, hey, we're gonna, you know, choose a logo if someone tweets it or something, but then just put up the logo he already had planned anyway.
Love it.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, you get paid for engagement now, so he needs to keep that coming.
tim pool
This is his plan to make money.
He's like, I'm gonna get myself paid.
He says, and soon we shall bid adieu to the Twitter brand and gradually all the birds.
Like this, but X. So, uh, here we go.
This has always been the plan.
He's been tweeting about this for a long time.
It's official.
dave landau
I like that.
We've already got, uh... Like a gang sign he's throwing up?
Yeah.
tim pool
Twitter X. That might actually be a gang sign, so you should be careful.
dave landau
It's true.
No, this one is.
This is blood.
But you don't really see him anymore because the cartels took over L.A.
tim pool
But what do we call tweeting now?
And he said it was called an ex.
dave landau
The more you know.
tim pool
Exing?
dave landau
I feel like this is really- Is it exing?
tim pool
I think it's- is it ex- exeeding?
dave landau
Exeeding?
Zeeding?
unidentified
I mean- Zeedy?
dave landau
I like- love big zeedy.
hannah claire brimelow
I think this is like a Gretchen Wieners moment.
We have to be like, stop trying to make exing happen.
It's not going to happen, Elon Musk.
ian crossland
It's maybe not the only social media site where there's actually a verb for the word when you send a message.
I just say, like, I'm sending a message.
I posted on Mines.
I posted on YouTube.
My post went live on Facebook.
But on Twitter, my tweet went live.
So maybe it's just going to be called posts.
You're just posting on Excel.
hannah claire brimelow
But that makes it less unique.
I don't understand how to get rid of that branding.
Truth them.
No, I don't like Ellen DeGeneres.
That's why it was sad when they didn't go with Trumpet or Trump Trumpet and you'd be like trumpeting something.
I thought that was pretty cool.
But Chris de Gaulle, the radio host, tweeted out this picture of, I don't know what it's from, but like some guy on a crane in a basket, like taking down the the bird logo off the side of a building, being like, bye bird.
tim pool
That's why he's making fun of it, like with Titter.
He took the W off because he doesn't care about the brand.
But I want to say this.
I fear Elon Musk's Everything app.
I fear XAI, his AI program.
Linda Iaccarino says the Everything app will be powered by AI, and I feel that this may actually be somewhat apocalyptic.
hannah claire brimelow
Yes, I agree.
tim pool
And so I was mentioning earlier that I was in Tijuana, went to the border, and it's this big fence.
There's Mexican National Guard on one side, and then there's U.S.
Border Patrol on the other side, and there's just this huge hole that The average person can easily just walk right through.
And the only reason you don't is because there's guards on the other side.
But I talked to some guy, you know, he told me this crazy story.
Our Uber driver.
He was like, I tried to climb the fence to break into America and I fell 40 feet because the car- the human traffickers took the ladder away from me and I'm just like... But I was talking to one- It's a nice conversation before you go under.
It was really crazy.
I'm like, why is he talking- I was actually leaving.
But um...
I heard a story from some guy who said, back in the day, a long time ago, there was no border.
It was like, if you were a Mexican citizen, you'd just cross and you'd work, and then Americans would cross and they'd work.
dave landau
Oh yeah, you'd walk back and forth.
tim pool
Yeah, there was nothing there.
And now there's this heavy border that's heavily guarded, and I think the issue is, with all of this, and this does relate to the Twitter rebranding as X, the cultural collapse, in its entirety, globally.
Everywhere in the world, because of the internet, community is ceasing to exist.
We were talking at dinner about how there's no home ec anymore at schools.
They used to teach women and, you know, to some degree, I guess men learn this stuff, but mostly women would learn how to cook dinner and prepare the home and iron clothes and help.
That was extremely important in my opinion.
dave landau
Yeah, you had to take it once, at least at our school.
ian crossland
Yeah, same.
We talked about it last week with Libby Emmons, too, on Tuesday.
hannah claire brimelow
It was such a staple that this was true at tons of colleges.
They had schools of home economics.
They would teach things like budgeting.
They were teaching how to cost compare.
It was so big that we had a federal department of home economics that supported women during war times and seeing how they could support, basically, women helping to sustain the nuclear family.
We don't have that anymore.
We have a thousand things for diversity, equity, inclusion, but we don't have things that are specifically targeted to help people help themselves in the context of staying at home.
tim pool
So to wrap it all together, back to the border.
The reason I'm freaked out by this is I'm like, we needed this fence because no one cares about their community anymore.
Because now, it used to be that someone would say like, hey, you're not part of our community, we're concerned about what you're doing here, and they would not get access to public goods.
Also, there was no income tax, so people didn't really care all that much, it just meant you weren't gonna fight for us, you weren't gonna be protected by us.
Community starts breaking apart, so we have to build walls.
We have to create laws.
Why do we need a law that says you can't do a certain thing?
You know, example, abortion.
Ron Paul says it shouldn't be illegal, it should be unthinkable.
How did it become thinkable to the point where we need decree by leadership to tell people what they can or can't do instead of our people of the United States just agreeing like, hey, we shouldn't be doing this thing.
It's simple.
Culture is fragmenting and breaking down, which brings it all back to Twitter.
It used to be that you lived next to your neighbors, you went to church, you talked to your neighbors, you all agreed on things, you learned from each other, and you shared particular views based on where you live.
Then the internet came around, big cities started fragmenting, and now there's a dude who lives in New York on top of another dude and they've never even met, even though they've lived literally next to each other for ten years.
dave landau
People don't talk to their neighbors at all anymore.
tim pool
Exactly.
dave landau
I actually talk to mine and it's nice, but there's someone in my block I haven't talked to because they're just completely antisocial.
tim pool
But it's because of the internet.
dave landau
Of course it is.
I knew everybody on my block before the internet.
Everybody.
tim pool
Now think about this.
AOC is not representative of the average Democrat or average American.
She is fringe leftist.
She's becoming more shill establishment.
She gets elected because she goes online and typically if you were like a fringe leftist weirdo, you'd go outside and wave your weird leftist flag and everyone would be like, shun, shun, and you'd be like, okay, this is not working.
Now those people go online, and every person in every different part of the country forms a community of 10,000, and they share resources, and they organize, and they gain power in this way.
I mean, same can be said for even this show.
We gain power from everyone from all over the world, all over the country, coming together and watching and supporting us.
This allows fringe ideas to become prominent.
Now think about what it's gonna be like with AI controlling what you see and hear.
It's already in that, we're already there.
But now it's going to be, no matter what your crackpot insane view is, the AI will pander to you and affirm your fringe belief system.
ian crossland
It's also beyond the internet, because that's a really good point.
The internet is the beginning of the fracturing of the local community.
It's the cell phone.
You've brought this up a few times.
It really clicked with me a couple weeks ago.
This thing used to be that you'd be on the internet when you sat down at your computer.
You were there for an hour or whatever.
Then you got up and walked away, and you were not online ever for the rest of the day.
Everybody around you is who you are with now these stupid things when some you're trying to talk to someone and they're
on their fucking phone
It's it's the most like disheartening experience if you have a friend and like they're just not available because I
unidentified
call a dinner with my family Yeah, it's
dave landau
So that's crazy. Well, it is I mean if you ever looked at your phone sometimes and you
really you've had a busy day doing stuff that you've had to do
And you look and you go nine hours And you just realize that's what you've been doing for more
than a workday is staring at a screen It's all I do so what's gonna happen is horrific
ian crossland
You're talking about how the AI is going to start moving people.
If you have a brain implant or a phone or some sort of sensor in your augmented glasses and someone tells you something and the machine's like, they're lying, they're lying, they're lying.
That's the AI making you think something about that person.
They're going to have behavioral monitoring devices and stuff that people can tap into.
Is this person a psychopath?
There'll be a psychopath alert.
hannah claire brimelow
Behavioral experimentation, right?
We see this with the Twitter algorithm.
Any of the social media algorithms, you know, you'll get people who say, oh yeah, we changed one small thing and we saw this reaction, so then we changed this way.
Like, they are already collecting all data.
I can only imagine what AI is going to decide it wants to do.
I don't trust AI.
I don't like it at all.
I recognize that there are some reasons why we're curious about it, but I think ultimately, just like Tim, like, the idea that we'd have this super app, like, name one other place that has that.
dave landau
China?
I mean, that's the idea, right?
Is China has the one app that controls everything, that's what everybody sees all day, is the only one thing that monitors everyone.
I mean, that's the idea, is the government watches everybody on one specific app.
Is that what this is?
hannah claire brimelow
How could it not be?
Just by the fact that it collects all that data.
Like, even though we're not giving it to the government necessarily, the fact that everything you're doing could be tracked from one- But they're watching it.
unidentified
Of course!
Exactly!
dave landau
I mean, we've known this since Snowden and we all- Yeah.
People hated him.
tim pool
Even- Even- It's like, all he did was tell us, like, what we needed to know and it's like- Even if Elon disagrees with it, even if Elon shuts down
dave landau
these backdoor programs, Well it doesn't mean they're not going to look at it.
tim pool
They still can because they control the grid.
ian crossland
I don't get it because Elon I think of as like a brilliant genius,
like one of the most genius strategists on earth right now.
Why he would centralize data? It doesn't make any sense.
Like you could decentralize the system, work on a mesh network.
Maybe that's your goal overall, but why do you got to centralize everything first?
It's such a vulnerability point.
tim pool
I'll tell you what I think.
I don't know if this is absolute or true, but it's what's happening.
You think about... I think we talked about this on one of the Culture War episodes.
You think about single-celled organisms.
What do they do?
What are they doing?
Milling about, eating particles or whatever and molecules and making more of themselves?
dave landau
I haven't the foggiest.
tim pool
Haven't the foggiest.
It seems irrelevant to us, but eventually a bunch of these little dudes got together and created this massive network of complicated specialized cells to make us.
dave landau
Right.
tim pool
In our bodies, when a group of cells goes rogue, what do we call it?
dave landau
Cancer?
tim pool
Free radicals would be a great band name.
Yes. Because it's deviating from what we want. These free radicals, I love how they're called
free radicals that can like result in cancer because I'm like that sounds like the free
radicals we have in society that are running around doing crazy. Well the fine young radicals
dave landau
are banned. Yeah well see there you go. So here's what I think is happening. Not a good ban. Why
tim pool
would Elon want this? Everybody you will live in you'll own nothing you will live in your pod you
will eat the bugs and you'll be happy.
This is the technocommunist future.
The next stage in the evolution of life is multicellular organisms, all becoming hyper-specialized, never deviating in any way.
You are born to do a job, you are engineered to do a job, probably genetically.
The AI controls what you think, so you never deviate, you never want to deviate, you're scared to deviate, and if you do, Then you get removed.
dave landau
Yeah.
tim pool
And then what happens is the AI will effectively be the brain telling all of the individual multicellular humans what the massive multicellular multi-organism is supposed to be doing.
The AI will effectively be the conscious entity of all humanity and we'll be nothing but a skin cell to be flicked off and destroyed.
dave landau
I can't believe I shaved my dick for this.
With this, though, like if you look at it, I see what you're saying, but okay, let's say you have Elon Musk, right?
You have electric cars, AI, all these different things that he's doing.
Which one of these things going towards this does he not benefit from?
So even though you look at him like a good guy, a genius, these things that he does, don't you think that there could be a chance that this maybe isn't the greatest guy in the world and it could be benefiting him completely?
ian crossland
Yeah, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
dave landau
That's what I mean.
He's always worried me in that sense.
Like, I hate electric cars, I'll just say it, but that's just because maybe being from Detroit I just like the feel of an actual car and that's just a preference of mine.
But I don't get in a Tesla and be like, this is cool.
It's something I don't enjoy personally.
tim pool
I like it, but understand, whether it's Tesla or any other electric car... Oh, I'm not saying it's just his brand, it's just how I feel about it.
Whatever car it is, there will come a day, very soon, where a person will get in the car, and the doors will lock, and it says, a warrant has been issued for Mr. Landau, driving to the police station.
And he'll go, what?
ian crossland
It senses your fingerprints on the steering wheel or something?
tim pool
No, it's the camera!
Right there, look at your face!
Facial recognition.
It says, hello Dave, a warrant has been issued by Precinct 99.
And you'll be like, okay, but like, delivering you to jail.
dave landau
That's why I want, like, an older gas guzzler that has none of those features.
I love those cars.
hannah claire brimelow
There are very few of them at this point.
dave landau
Yeah, they're trying to get them away, but I think a lot of people feel that way because lots are filled with electric cars right now.
People aren't buying them, and I think that's out of that fear.
ian crossland
I think dissent is part of the United States ethos.
Like, if there's corrupt government, you dissent, create a better government by the people.
Like, the people govern themselves.
But the rest of the world's not really built like that.
They're much about fall in line.
A lot of them are like that.
dave landau
Oh, I think you're right about that, for sure.
ian crossland
And it's bleeding into our culture.
I can feel it with this whole, like, everyone organized on the centered system.
It's better, like, the World Economic Forum.
They want everything, like, monitored.
tim pool
Now, think about this.
Here's the real danger in my mind of this hyper-centralized AI dictating everything.
dave landau
Yeah.
tim pool
Using the human body as the metaphor, the next stage, all humans, specialized, being controlled, no free radicals, to be eliminated, etc., the A.I.' 's in control.
There are people whose conscious minds are in control of their bodies, gorging themselves to death and doing drugs and destroying their bodies.
And still, when they get cancer, we destroy it.
So what freaks me out in that idea, not that it's one for one, but let's say we do move in this direction where AI controls everything, we don't even realize it.
The AI could be gorging itself on drugs and sugars, and we would just be milling about being like, everything's so perfect, until the entirety of humanity collapses.
We cannot trust a centralized AI to make sure, or to follow any of this, and it's where everything's been going in the past couple decades.
dave landau
Well, and really, even in the past couple, I don't know, I shouldn't even say months, but really, it's already had so many problems with AI that it's really, like, upsetting people to the point that you have Ice Cube, you have other people speaking out about the fears of it.
Oh, sorry, am I not?
Lower it.
tim pool
You're good.
dave landau
Sorry.
Um, but you have, you have people speaking out against it.
You already have so many problems with it just in, I guess it's not in its infancy, but I think compared to the, you know, technology, it really is.
There's already been so many issues with this.
Don't you think that there's other places to go?
They're going to be far more dangerous than just the tiny stuff that we've seen.
ian crossland
Yeah, as you were talking about how we're having problems with AI, I got this article from fortune.com.
ChatGPT went from correctly answering a simple math problem 98% of the time to just 2% of the time.
So the way an AI can flip and everything looks good, and then one little piece of data can switch and the entire system can start outputting something that's just slightly wrong, but it's just wrong enough to destroy the entire thing.
It takes so much effort to make it right, and it's so easy to fail.
tim pool
Have you guys seen where video games are already at with this stuff?
dave landau
Dude, it's crazy.
tim pool
It used to be... Super Mario Brothers.
Mario goes in the castle, and text appears.
Thank you for saving me, but the prince is in another castle.
That was the extent of NPC communication with you.
It advanced to games now where you can choose to say something, and then a voice actor's scripted line will speak.
That's a great idea!
Let's get the mission underway!
And you're like, cool.
Now, with text to voice, and...
Predictive language models.
Video games have already started.
You're wearing a headset, you walk up to the NPC, and you say something like, hey, idiot, ugly, I want to buy some soda.
And the NPC goes, who are you calling an idiot?
If you want to buy something, be polite.
A generated predictive response.
We are years away from people saying, I no longer want to live in reality.
I'm going to go into this universe where I can tune out and you're going to be sitting in your living room talking to fake people.
And we're already there with the robot girlfriends.
Man, y'all's getting crazy out there.
dave landau
Well, and how many people want to live in the current reality?
tim pool
Is it intentional?
dave landau
I mean, it's not really that great right now.
I mean, the last couple years, everything has fallen completely, and I'm sure a lot of people would prefer to live in a... I mean, I'm just saying it's... And the headlines that go behind that, right?
hannah claire brimelow
Like, if you're a millennial, they're saying, it's gonna be impossible to buy a house, it's gonna be impossible to start a family, it's gonna be... Like, there's all of these negative things.
At a certain point, it would be easy to be like, I'm just giving up.
Like, this place that gives me comfort and gives me the life I want is easier, right?
I can understand the attraction to that.
I just think ultimately that's really devoid of actual emotional connection and support.
I think part of the issue is that we train people to seek out momentary pleasure and comfort rather than work through issues that they're having.
unidentified
And it's easier to give up.
dave landau
Yeah the idea of community and you take out the idea of a lot of things like that when you do want that instant gratification but which we've completely taught our society to have is endless dopamine hits and instant likes and no attention span but then you add like the other day I saw a video is for basically Gen Z's and Millennials where it's just If you want to buy a $500,000 house, all you need is a $25,000 down payment, and then you need $3,000 a month at a 6.5% interest rate.
I'm like, wow, that sounds like hell.
Like pure hell to try to pitch that to somebody.
It doesn't look good.
I mean, you're basically telling people that a reality of a way that life once worked is no longer available.
It's a complete turn-off.
tim pool
I don't I'm just saying that's not like a realistic it's not a realistic interest rate it's not a realistic down pay it's none of that's even it's all pretend I don't just in that I don't agree that's bad So the issue is relativity, and the issue with VR is that it will always offer you the greener grass, no matter what it is.
You're not going to go back 200 years and say that we have it worse.
Actually, there's no lights anywhere, it's dark out, you could just die.
You stub your toe, you get an infection, you're dead.
Horrible things were going on, and even as bad as it is now relative to how things may have been in economic booms or whatever, it's still pretty great.
dave landau
Of course.
tim pool
But there will always be struggle, there will always be problems, and people will always choose a free dopamine hit over the harsh reality they live in.
dave landau
Yes.
tim pool
So when the VR starts coming out, and it's already here, with predictive language NPCs, within a year or two, the language will be perfectly fluid.
Right now, it's rather, hey, why are you calling me ugly?
That was mean.
Give it a year or two.
It's gonna be perfect.
I mean, we went in one year with AI images.
I tweet out this horrible image of Pelosi.
One year later, you have photorealistic images being made in my mid-journey and getting better every day.
ian crossland
Dude, I would picture, like, you play the video game with the guy, Elder Scrolls VII or whatever, and he's talking to you, and you're like, then you're dreaming, and you're thinking about that one NPC.
You're like, that guy's really cool, man.
And then there's an app where you can actually call that NPC on the phone when you're not playing the game.
and bond with them and talk to them and then next time you're in the game
they could make it so the generative conversation was involved or not
involved.
unidentified
Dude, I don't like that at all.
tim pool
The only social skills you have now though is that. And imagine the people who are
going to retreat to significant others.
There's going to be... we're a year out from this at most.
People sitting in their living room wearing a headset, playing a video game, and talking to a computer program and saying, I love you so much.
And the computer program just goes, I love you too.
I really wish I could be there with you.
Then how long until we download those AIs into machines?
And here's the thing.
dave landau
How long is it until it's just porn and nobody leaves their house ever?
tim pool
That's exactly, but more than porn.
dave landau
For real, like not even kidding.
tim pool
But emotional and physical porn at the same time.
dave landau
That's what I mean.
ian crossland
You're the hero and you get to have sex with the woman.
It's going to be crazy.
dave landau
Yeah, realistic.
I mean, and then it goes farther than that because obviously we've taken something that, and I guess too what I mean by nostalgia is in even 200 years, if you looked when we were young and the amount of nostalgia that just we have in our generations.
insane because of how fast technology moved. You know, so what we see is crazy.
Like the amount of technology we have seen is it's not like it's ever been
this way for a group in history. We remember pre-internet and the way that
things were and the way that things are now. So the way that this all affects us,
the technology is different.
I think it's going to be different than people that are born today, because they're growing up with this, with all of this technology.
It's not going to be anything new or that crazy to them, but going from playing, like you said, getting a Nintendo when I was a kid, to seeing all of this, it makes very little sense to me.
tim pool
Let's jump to this next story and talk about how we might get there.
We got this one from NDTV.
I see this story popping up all over the place.
Man tests positive for MERS coronavirus in Abu Dhabi, says World Health Organization.
A 28-year-old man has tested positive for a potentially fatal Middle Eastern Respiratory Syndrome coronavirus.
Now, here's the thing.
MERS has been around for a while, right?
They say, what is it?
It's been recorded in 27 countries since 2012.
Over the time, 2,605 cases and 936 associated deaths have been reported.
Here's what we want to say about this.
A lot of people are suggesting this could be the catalyst for another lockdown as elections are looming.
I don't think so.
MERS has been around before.
It doesn't spread like COVID did.
COVID was novel, but they're calling it MERS-COV.
That's the freaky thing.
That's what I'm seeing a bunch of these stories do, because now they're associating MERS with COVID.
dave landau
Yeah.
tim pool
That could be a political catalyst for giving the government power to do whatever they want.
ian crossland
I think I saw there was a 25% death.
It kills like 30% of the people.
36?
36%.
So that's nothing like COVID.
That's something like you get it, you either survive it or you die.
And it's not really that... I don't know how transmissible it is.
tim pool
One in three.
ian crossland
Sorry, Dave, were you about to say something?
dave landau
No, no, it just sounds like they added three letters to MERS.
tim pool
Exactly.
Because now they're associating the pandemic, the lockdown, the sickness, with something that they can say has a 36% mortality rate, despite the fact it does not spread nearly as horrifically, but could be enough for politicians to say, hey, MERS COVID is here, We need lockdowns.
We need mail-in voting.
The mortality rate is 36%.
Oh boy, here we go again.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I do feel like they feel like COVID has worn out.
You know, they've been saying for a while, they had all the variants and at a certain point they were like, seems like people aren't going to stay at home no matter what.
And now we have the malaria outbreaks, which malaria can be really serious, but it is interesting that there's almost at times, if I'm cynical, feels like they're just trying to test out what will scare you enough to go home.
dave landau
Oh, I think they are though.
I mean, and with this, it's, I, I don't think you can have another COVID lockdown because everybody just going to go, yeah, no, I'm not going to do that at all.
tim pool
I don't know if I agree with that.
dave landau
You think they will?
ian crossland
Some people maybe, but I don't think a lot of people will.
dave landau
I don't think the majority will.
tim pool
They're still calling for it.
You still have prominent liberal person on Twitter.
ian crossland
Peter Hotez.
tim pool
Saying, yeah, didn't he just put out, we put it out just recently, we got locked down again.
ian crossland
I'll quote him, yeah, he said something like that.
dave landau
Yeah, he's the worst.
ian crossland
Professor Peter Hotez, MD, PhD.
hannah claire brimelow
But to be fair, he's terrible.
dave landau
Yeah, he's...
Didn't he write a book called Vaccines Didn't Give My Daughters Autism I Did From Junk Food by Peter Hotez?
ian crossland
He was like gleefully telling Joe Rogan that he feeds his autistic daughter junk food.
dave landau
Yeah.
Like in Blame, it's insane.
Yeah, that guy is a, he's just worthless.
tim pool
But wasn't he just saying recently something about like, you know, I'm looking at his Twitter.
I can't find it.
ian crossland
Oh, it was the post Barbie.
Yeah, this post Barbie world.
Let's not forget.
I'm nervous about COVID.
unidentified
Everyone's going to the movies.
So he was like, oh, but no one's masking anymore.
No one's doing tests anymore.
I think that was the tweet, right?
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, it was something like that.
unidentified
The movies are so popular we have to worry about another rise in COVID, basically.
hannah claire brimelow
Which is also like a typical, like, don't go have fun, I'm holier-than-you-for-have-noticed-this, I'm protecting you all with my great ideas.
dave landau
We have anonymous sex apps and we're worried about people going to the movies.
It's absurd.
Go to the movies, bring a wipe if you want with you.
But haven't we already proven that putting on a mask with dirty fingers isn't going to help you all that much?
ian crossland
Oh my gosh.
dave landau
Are we allowed to say that?
unidentified
100%.
ian crossland
Yeah, if you're re-breathing fecal matter in your mask, it's about as disgusting as it gets.
hannah claire brimelow
Or like, where do you carry your mask?
You put it in your bag or coat pocket?
That thing's gross.
dave landau
Here's a tweet.
tim pool
I just want to pull the tweet.
Peter Hodes said, not to be a Debbie Downer, but anyone worried about a post-Barbie box office COVID bump or post-oppy?
We'll probably never know since no one seems to be keeping track of such things anymore.
Keep up with your boosters and find a pink N95 or KN95 if you can.
And he's just talking about the box office for these two movies.
Now I don't know if that really matters, but I do want to stress, this is my point, these people are still calling for these things to happen again.
Yo, there were a lot of places where people did not follow the protocols.
dave landau
I didn't.
tim pool
But there were a lot of places that did to an extreme degree.
dave landau
Absolutely.
tim pool
And there was enforcement of these things to ridiculous degrees.
So I don't think it's an issue of whether people want or don't want something because they let it happen in the first place.
And local cops and sheriff's department went and arrested cafe owners and salon owners.
The cops will do as they're told.
ian crossland
A lot of those things are hard once they get started.
They're easier to stop from happening.
Once it gets rolling, then you're like, especially as a cop, you're like, well, God, they already put it into place.
Now I've got to kind of do my job and enforce the dumb rule that got put into place.
But if you don't let them put the rule into place in the first place.
dave landau
But this also had, though, a lot of cops, though, the new business owners that were like, you know what?
You don't have to build your restaurant outside.
It's fine.
You have a speakeasy now.
I mean, there were a lot of places in this country who didn't deal with it.
You know, I mean, you can't, I guess, legally, you can't say that or have a statistic on it.
tim pool
Speakeasy existed in prohibition.
dave landau
Of course.
tim pool
And there were cops who would look the other way and things like that.
dave landau
But I'm not saying it was the majority, unfortunately.
You are right.
tim pool
I think what happens is the fragmentation of community and the family, and partly due to the internet.
What did they do in New Jersey with Attila's gym?
They brought cops, but the local cops didn't do what the city wanted.
So they got cops from a different suburban town to come in and enforce the law.
Here's the crazy thing about all that.
Why would any community accept external police Coming into their community to enforce rules their community does not agree with is the crazy thing, but is the proof to what I'm talking about.
ian crossland
Irrational fear.
tim pool
They had to bring in state troopers into New York because a lot of NYPD guys didn't want to enforce these rules, like shut down bars and stuff.
So they bring in a different agency.
Now I can understand the hierarchy of law enforcement.
State police have different jurisdiction.
They have more jurisdiction.
But the idea that there are two cities.
Let's call it city, city, city, town, and town city.
Cityville in the Village of Cities town, whatever.
And one city's like, we want to force everyone in their homes, but they're refusing and the cops won't enforce it.
Let's bring in cops from a different town.
Why would anyone in the community be like, we certainly respect this police department with no jurisdiction in our town?
But they did.
That's the point.
dave landau
Yes, they did.
I guess my point is, how do we continue making a living in this country?
How do we not keep everybody from going completely impoverished?
How do we keep any brick-and-mortar business going, any restaurant running, anything really working that's not just a giant corporation where you work in a warehouse, wearing a mask all day, sweating... I mean, really, what's the endgame?
I mean, it does go at a lot of this X stuff we were talking about and going into that sort of bleak future, but why wouldn't we fight against that?
ian crossland
I think that question is a good question for Peter Hotez and people like Peter Hotez that made tons of money and became super well known during the pandemic because of the pandemic.
Like that guy has everything to gain from seeing another pandemic the way he made out during COVID.
hannah claire brimelow
Without it he becomes irrelevant.
tim pool
Yep.
Think about how many people are sitting there thinking, all these doctors, they're like, oh man, I'd love, I mean Fauci's not on TV anymore, right?
dave landau
Well no, once people found him to be a slight bit shady, they had to finally, you know, kind of push him to the side.
tim pool
MSNBC didn't push him to the side for being shady.
dave landau
Well no, they don't care.
tim pool
They held big umbrellas with his face on it and twirled around on, what was it, Jimmy Kimmel or something or Colbert or whatever?
dave landau
Oh yeah, the dancing needles.
tim pool
He didn't get booted from TV because he was shady, because COVID's not relevant anymore so they don't need him.
People like that, they're salivated at the idea of locking down again because it keeps them in the news and it gives them power.
dave landau
Of course, they love power.
That's what a large part of it is, is power.
That's the problem, is if you're supposed to be somebody who's out there protecting the public, and all you do is hurt people, why would anybody believe you anymore?
I don't understand the logic.
Now, I do agree people are dumb, not even dumb, they're scared, and they are definitely going to believe things, and they're going to be gullible, and they're going to do anything to protect their families.
But how much more evidence do you need that that didn't work?
ian crossland
I have a theory with Fauci.
I think that he really believed he was helping people, and he was being used by the pharmaceutical industry to sell pharma drugs for profit.
They're like, let's just find a guy that's obsessed with public health.
Because I try to picture Fauci being in a back room, being like, we're going to make so much money on this.
But I just don't see it.
And that's why people liked him, the amount of people that did, because he truly believed what he was saying.
Like, they're going to help you.
You're going to get the thing.
It's going to be great.
You're going to be fine.
Wear two masks.
And everyone's like, He believes it, so I believe him!
hannah claire brimelow
Isn't he the highest paid government employee, though?
He was.
He was?
He was making tons of money.
He has the biggest pension, or maybe not anymore, but to me it's hard to believe that this guy isn't aware of money, especially when he signed up to do a documentary with Disney.
unidentified
Yeah, when he's like, hey, I made AIDS worse and I throw like a girl.
hannah claire brimelow
There is a desire to have attention and be famous there.
I think the desire to be compensated and paid is part of that.
ian crossland
Yeah, it's almost irrelevant to muse about what his intentions were, I don't know.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, we'll never know.
ian crossland
But he did make a lot of money, I would imagine, during the pandemic.
hannah claire brimelow
Unless he comes on the show.
ian crossland
And he became very- that would be awesome.
dave landau
Well, and they were pumping out that documentary while they're like, you know, the human trafficking one?
Just keep that one shelved.
Let's make sure everybody finds out about how great Fauci is.
ian crossland
Just recently?
dave landau
Yeah.
ian crossland
Oh, I didn't see it.
What's it called?
dave landau
Uh, The Sound of Freedom.
ian crossland
Yeah, I was talking about the Fauci doc.
dave landau
Oh!
No, there was the one on Disney Plus.
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
Yeah, they shelved Sound of Freedom.
And now it's a sleeper hit!
unidentified
Yep.
ian crossland
Makes 125 million so far.
dave landau
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
I don't know why I answered your question like an idiot.
hannah claire brimelow
Is that a QAnon movie?
I don't know what you guys are talking about.
tim pool
And now what the smear from the left is, these outlets, is that no one's actually seeing the movie.
That in reality, they're just paying for tickets, but no one actually seeing it.
ian crossland
Well, you can pay it forward.
dave landau
That's such a lie.
hannah claire brimelow
You're so desperate!
That's like a terrible argument.
dave landau
You can literally buy tickets from scanning at the end of the movie and people are buying them.
So let's say they're not, then people are still buying those tickets.
ian crossland
I bought $1,000 worth of them just to give them away with the pay-it-forward thing.
hannah claire brimelow
I thought that was a cool initiative.
dave landau
I bought a ton of tickets.
It wouldn't matter one way or the other.
It's still profiting for the movie.
tim pool
Let's talk about this.
We got this story from The Guardian.
Let's pull this up.
Sound of Freedom passed the $100 million mark.
Who's really watching the movie?
They say the QAnon-adjacent film, co-opted by the right wing, has a pay-it-forward scheme resulting in sold-out shows but empty theaters.
That is a lie.
dave landau
It's a flat-out lie.
tim pool
Their evidence is that they went to a local theater.
Check out the weasel language they use here.
According to Fandango, all but 28 seats had been sold for the 3 p.m.
screening of Sound of Freedom.
As the lights dimmed, however, The Guardian counted 45 vacant seats dotted around the half-empty theater.
Full stop!
The lights dimmed twice.
When a movie ends, the lights go full brightness.
Then, the lights will dim slightly for pre, like the, the, the movie go, whatever it's called, pre-screener?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Where it's like, you know, lasers, and you hold up your phone and stuff.
Then it dims, then the lights shut off.
My question is, are they lying by manipulating, so being factual but not truthful, in that when the lights dimmed, half the theater was empty?
Are you saying that people showed up early for the movie and then when the lights dimmed for the previews, the theater was half empty?
Or are you saying when the lights actually dimmed for the start of the film, the theater was empty?
Check this out.
He says, minutes before the 6.30 screening, Fandango showed that only two seats were available.
Again, there were more than two vacant spots as the film began.
Three?
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
What does more than two mean?
dave landau
Well, that's empty.
More than two definitely means it's not a sellout.
hannah claire brimelow
No one is there.
tim pool
It sounds like what actually happened was, the theater was half full before the previews even started.
dave landau
Right.
tim pool
The lights dim, and they're like, theater's half empty!
dave landau
Yeah.
tim pool
Then before the movie actually starts, there's like six seats that are available, and they're like, more than two?
Some people didn't shop?
Yeah, some people missed their movie.
Well, take a look at this.
Currently, Sound of Freedom's at 124 million.
dave landau
One was Obama's chef.
tim pool
That's right.
And, uh, number three, only behind Barbie and Oppenheimer, of course, those are the big movies that just came out, Sound of Freedom is beating Mission Impossible.
dave landau
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
Sorry, Tom Cruise, take that.
tim pool
Beating Mission Impossible. You know, The Flash is considered the biggest one of the it may be the biggest box
office bomb in history.
ian crossland
Wow. Did it just come out?
dave landau
It's odd when you take somebody who kidnaps women and tortures them and then you're like, you can still be The Flash.
ian crossland
Oh, yeah. What's that, guys?
I was in L.A.
tim pool
They made back like 260 of their 400 million.
So they were like, we can't cancel this film.
Look, I'll take 50 cents on the dollar, but I'm not taking zero.
dave landau
I really like Michael Shannon, too.
I feel bad that he's got to take a hit on that one.
ian crossland
Who is he in the movie?
dave landau
I guess he's the bad guy.
I don't know who he plays, but...
ian crossland
I wonder how many of the people involved with The Flash are making money off of it.
Like when 240 million comes in of your 400, does the production house eat it?
And they're like, sorry Blackrock, ESG, we'll pay it forward.
dave landau
Yeah.
ian crossland
We'll donate to some kids in Rwanda or something.
dave landau
I also feel that with superhero movies, it's like it's fine.
We'll just make it all back with every other superhero movie we make this year.
unidentified
Yeah.
dave landau
Don't worry about it.
hannah claire brimelow
I assume it's not like per movie.
There's an ultimate, you know, bottom line.
dave landau
And even that, it's like, yeah, we lost a couple hundred million, but we still made back a few hundred million.
So it's not like the end of the world for these studios.
ian crossland
OK.
hannah claire brimelow
No, I mean, I think I think it's about Netflix right now.
Netflix had a bunch of like house related flipping shows that are all Netflix originals like Like you're looking at these things and you're like, how much is the budget per episode here?
But it's because ultimately Netflix is trying to decide which style of show people are going to watch, which they'll renew.
They're able to throw up a ton of losses if they can ultimately decide it's worth it as a business investment because they are making money off of other things.
tim pool
Did you know there was a movie called Ruby Gilman Teenage Kraken that came out?
dave landau
No.
tim pool
I'm just like looking at the box office.
dave landau
Oh, I did!
hannah claire brimelow
Oh, wait, this is the one where there's like a mermaid.
unidentified
Yes, I did.
Who's in green?
tim pool
It was like a month and a half ago, I guess.
hannah claire brimelow
That one must be doing very badly on the box office.
tim pool
Terrifier, The Blackening, The Boogeyman.
dave landau
The Blackening I wanted to see.
ian crossland
What is it?
dave landau
It's like a horror movie, but it's by the people that did... Get Out?
Oh, no, not Get Out, but I see what you did.
hannah claire brimelow
I don't know.
dave landau
I don't know anything about movies.
I know what you did.
No, no.
They did a parody, too, of another... It is, like, parodies of black movies.
But this one is, yeah, they all go to a camp, or go to a house in the woods.
So it is, like, all black people in a house in the woods horror movie.
ian crossland
The tagline is, we can't all die first.
dave landau
Exactly.
That's awesome.
So I do want to see that one, actually.
unidentified
The big news is... Meet the Blacks is the people.
tim pool
We're nearly, we're 20 days on nearly, about three weeks on.
Sound of Freedom on Saturday hit $7.5 million.
Beating, I'm sorry, on Friday they beat Mission Impossible by $200k, about $140k.
They lost Sunday by about $400k, but then almost $700,000 Sound of Freedom beats Mission Impossible on Sunday.
The crazy thing is, Sound of Freedom has consistently been hitting millions every day.
Saturday, July 15th, $10 million.
Friday, $7 million.
This is amazing.
So here's what I want to say about The Guardian.
They're trying to make it seem like suspicious sales, the theaters are empty, but they're claiming they saw it, and I'm like... There were two seats with people that weren't even in them.
If you think you're gonna go to Hollywood studios and say, Don't support these movies?
People are willing to pay to see it and not actually even go to the theater.
The studio's gonna be like, wait, hold on.
People are giving money in exchange for nothing?
They're just like literally giving their money away?
Can we make more of these?
Why would a studio say no to that?
ian crossland
Yeah, or a movie house, because it's less upkeep on the house to have to clean after the- Exactly!
dave landau
People have to be like, they're morality tales, and the guy at the studio's like, oh, I work for the devil.
Is there a way to do this where- There's a slight con for me here.
tim pool
Where we're evil?
dave landau
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, I can't make these at all.
It's kind of even our contract.
tim pool
I love how their smear is.
This movie was so important that people are paying for tickets but not actually going.
As if that's going to discredit it in any way.
It's a capitalist dream.
You mean I can bake the cake and keep it?
And you're gonna pay me money anyway?
That's amazing.
hannah claire brimelow
And you know this semi-feminist Barbie movie is not able to say the same thing.
Like, our movie is so culturally important, please buy tickets for other people.
People you may not even know.
Like, where is the Barbie go buy tickets for other people campaign?
It doesn't exist because that movie obviously doesn't tell a story that people want to hear or feel a moral imperative to share with other people.
That's one of the things that's so unique about Sound of Freedom.
You just can't replicate that everywhere.
dave landau
Well, no, and it's very important for people to see.
I mean, I have a son, right after I saw it, he was wearing bright yellow for the next three days because it's haunting.
I mean, it really is a terrible story and it's very real.
I think it's odd that it's taken this long for people to kind of open their eyes in this way to human trafficking because it's everywhere and it's been everywhere in plain sight for a very, very long time.
But at least it's finally out there and people are getting to be a little bit more aware of it.
But it's important, and it's important that these tickets are available for people, because a lot of it is just for people who can't afford to go to the movies.
That's why people are buying them.
So you can just go and see it.
Yeah, it matters.
And that's not Barbie.
It's like you've made 800 Barbies now for everybody, where you have, like, handicapped wheelchair Barbie, you have spina bifida Barbie, you have all these things, but then you make the movie, and it's just hot-ass Barbie.
tim pool
He's not joking, ladies and gentlemen.
dave landau
No, I'm serious.
tim pool
And why didn't Lizzo play Barbie?
dave landau
I was shocked she didn't.
hannah claire brimelow
But date feminism!
tim pool
No, like for real though.
dave landau
No, I figured they would.
tim pool
That's why everyone tried claiming Margot Robbie was unattractive.
Because the reality was... It's a lie.
unidentified
That's a lie.
Oh, I know!
tim pool
She's conventional Hollywood attractive.
Yeah, sorry.
She's like the conventional Hollywood beautiful actress.
dave landau
Yes.
tim pool
But they have to say that because then people are gonna go, oh, why wouldn't Barbie?
It's a feminist film.
Why didn't they cast Lizzo?
Or a trans woman.
dave landau
Yeah, that's true.
That's why I don't even look at the cover of Sports Illustrated, because I don't know anymore.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Well, the reality is their ideology is... It's nonsense.
dave landau
It is.
tim pool
Here's the funny thing.
Remember the movie Bros?
You know that one?
Yeah, I know that one.
dave landau
Billy Eichner's... The gay comedy one?
tim pool
Yeah.
dave landau
Okay.
tim pool
It bombed.
Miserably.
dave landau
It was like one of the worst... Yeah.
tim pool
Bombs.
dave landau
Yeah.
tim pool
And he's at this show and he's walking through the aisle being like, Everybody, please go see this movie!
You have to!
Nobody wanted to pay a dime for it.
dave landau
Especially gay men.
tim pool
I mean, look, maybe they did want to see it.
I don't know.
dave landau
I'm just saying... At least the ones I knew were like, no.
tim pool
But if you're talking to 3% or 1% of the population, your market cap is going to be 1% of typical box office market cap.
If you make a movie that's called All Men Are Dumb, don't expect men to go see it.
If you make a movie about a gay relationship, don't expect straight people to go see it.
Well, they didn't.
Here's the thing.
Sound of Freedom is the inverse of that.
People on the right, post-liberals, people who care about this issue, They want the movie so badly, they're willing to pay extra for other people to go see it.
ian crossland
Yeah, it's like information.
You're actually going to see, to learn some information.
It's a drama about a real life story, but you're still learning about real life things.
So it's like a documentary.
dave landau
And sadly, you're getting clips of the real life events.
ian crossland
Yeah, literally.
dave landau
Yeah.
And that's horrifying, but when you see it, you realize how... How fast it can happen?
Yep.
And how little people can do about it.
Because you have grown men with guns who pull up to kids playing soccer or whatever on the street and what are they going to do?
They're just trying to save whatever kids are just sitting there and then you have... And then what are the most egregious places where human trafficking happens?
They go right to Los Angeles.
It's one of the top three.
tim pool
I also want to point this out, too.
In the Guardian story, it says, in a theater located in New York City's Times Square on Thursday afternoon, there seemed to be evidence of this.
unidentified
Woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah.
tim pool
You mean to tell me that a Thursday afternoon they sold half the theater out?
dave landau
I don't buy it.
tim pool
No, no, a Thursday at 3 p.m.?
hannah claire brimelow
That's impressive to me.
tim pool
Yeah.
Who goes to a 3 p.m.
Thursday showing?
If you even look at the Sound of Freedom box office, it's big days are weekends.
dave landau
Duh.
tim pool
This is why movies get released with Thursday previews over weekends.
So you're saying two weeks out, almost three weeks out, on a Thursday, they were able to fill up half the theater?
unidentified
Yeah.
Come on.
ian crossland
Well, it looks like they filled up almost the entire theater by the time the movie started.
hannah claire brimelow
No, no, but two seats.
What are you talking about?
ian crossland
All but two, at least.
tim pool
More than two.
That means three.
ian crossland
Do you think there were tourists on a Tuesday afternoon in Times Square?
That's my guess.
hannah claire brimelow
Maybe, but what I find fascinating is the fact that they're not acknowledging that you could go to any movie and be like one of two people in the theater and they still consider that movie a success, right?
This idea that they're not selling out every single show every single time But they're still making tons of money is irrelevant to them.
They're manipulating all of their data to try to make this look bad.
It's the same thing with this, like, QAnon slur, right?
Like, they have just decided this might be the way to scare people away from going, right?
To say, like, actually that many people aren't seeing it.
You're confused because actually not every seat is sold and we checked this one time.
Like, it's ridiculous.
dave landau
Well, it's interesting because it's the only place in Times Square that you're not spending money on human trafficking at that hour.
tim pool
Man.
dave landau
No, it's true.
I'm just saying it's a creepy place.
I lived in New York for a while.
You do?
Yeah.
Of course, if you don't finish your red lobster, you can just set it on a homeless guy's tent, because that seems like a good idea.
Until he wakes up and he's like, why are there rats everywhere?
tim pool
There's a meme.
Rolling Stone said something like, the QAnon film insulting Sound of Freedom.
And then next to it, it's juxtaposed with the in defense of cuties.
dave landau
Oh, yeah.
ian crossland
Very weird that you would, you would try and dog that Sound of Freedom movie.
It was pretty good.
dave landau
How can you give a good review to something like cuties or something that obviously exploits children?
And then you're like, well, I didn't care for the acting in this one.
Like you mean the real footage?
Yeah.
The real footage of it happening.
hannah claire brimelow
It's almost like they're okay with children being harmed.
Something about that.
ian crossland
I can see the argument they're making if, for instance, of the $130 million, $30 million was like George Soros or some wealthy investor that paid for a bunch of tickets and no one saw him.
And you're like, yes, 30% of the numbers were inflated.
That would be a story.
But if it's like two or three people didn't show up to a Tuesday afternoon movie, wait.
The jury's out.
Wait until we have some real data before you try and start slandering this thing, because people obviously like it.
dave landau
It's like you said, the sense of community.
All of a sudden there is a slight sense of community, and people are freaking the hell out and writing articles about it.
tim pool
Let's talk about Snow White.
We had this from TMZ.
They say, Rachel Zegler's Snow White old woke interview resurfaces ignites right-wing rage.
It's really weird to me that honest and average is considered right-wing.
Because you go and talk to the average person and you will find they hold these opinions.
So anyway, you may have seen the news that they have this image of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs.
I'm pretty sure that's not what it's called anymore because now it's like, what is it, the Seven Companions or something?
dave landau
Yeah, and one's a dwarf, just the one guy.
tim pool
Just the one.
So, you've got, you know, like a white guy, you've got a couple black people, you've got a fat guy, another white guy, a guy who is presumably black, maybe ethnically ambiguous, one little person, and then another guy.
So, uh, the story apparently is, the new Snow White movie will not be about her being rescued by Prince Charming or anything like that.
It's gonna be her trying to actualize her girlboss dreams or something?
ian crossland
Yeah.
unidentified
Boo!
ian crossland
We should watch the interview.
It's just really... That's the worst!
It's terrifying.
tim pool
Two minutes.
Here we go.
unidentified
You said you were bringing a modern edge to it on stage.
What do you mean by that?
I just mean that it's no longer 1937, and we absolutely wrote a Snow White.
She's not going to be saved by the prince.
She's not going to be saved by the prince, and she's not going to be dreaming about true love.
She's dreaming about becoming the leader she knows she can be, and the leader that her late father told her that she could be if she was fearless, fair, brave, and true.
So patriarchy.
It's just a really incredible story for, I think, young people everywhere.
tim pool
It's not Snow White.
unidentified
Snow White is running for president.
dave landau
So you're a Hispanic cleaning lady?
unidentified
I'm launching my campaign.
I am.
ian crossland
Fearless, fair, brave, and true.
unidentified
It's like a make-a-new-movie.
Yes, Snow White was cleaning for the house.
tim pool
But that's what she's saying they're not going to do.
dave landau
Oh, I thought she still had that same role, but then she wants to be a boss.
tim pool
No, no, no, this movie is not Snow White.
It's like, there's no dwarves.
Dwarves?
I don't know.
dave landau
There's one dwarf, but he's worthless.
She never touches him.
tim pool
But here's what bothers me about it.
Yo, the seven dwarves were not little people.
They were fictional, mystical creatures who mined gemstones in a mountain.
hannah claire brimelow
They needed more diversity in their mining crew, though.
tim pool
World of Warcraft, you're done.
You gotta get rid of the whole dwarf race.
This idea is a stereotype that little people are mining.
I don't know where it comes from, but it's gone.
ian crossland
They look like gnomes, too.
Like the World of Warcraft gnomes.
dave landau
Yeah, they weren't like dwarves.
hannah claire brimelow
They're fictional mystical characters.
I mean, this is ridiculous on its face.
ian crossland
Happy, Sneezy, Dopey.
They represented emotions.
unidentified
They lived in a house in the woods and mined gemstones.
tim pool
Now hold on there a minute.
Do you think they're going to give these names to these people?
ian crossland
Dopey.
Who's going to be Dopey?
unidentified
Who's Sleepy?
dave landau
The one that's on heroin?
Sleepy is also on heroin.
tim pool
They're all on it.
dave landau
Yeah, Grumpy just doesn't have heroin.
Doc is on that.
unidentified
Doc is just the pill mill.
ian crossland
This reminds me more of Hook, the movie with Robin Williams and Dustin Hoffman.
dave landau
Yes.
ian crossland
The Peter Pan movie.
And these look like the Lost Boys.
Like they're just kind of regurgitating the Lost Boys.
dave landau
Yeah, one is Rufio, except he's just drugging her all the time.
tim pool
I'm sorry dude, this movie's gonna bomb.
It's gonna bomb because, here's what's happening.
Regular people, like I went outside, I was always touching grass.
Actually I was touching sand because I was in Tijuana.
But I'm hanging out and talking to regular people about all the stuff and they're like, don't know, don't care, this is weird.
They just want regular stuff like we're used to.
You can't have this rapid...
Cultural shift in the span of six, seven years.
People are just weirded out by it.
Now, terminally online people, on the woke left, will say things that make no sense and just agree with each other.
Like, you know, everyone brings up to me non-stop the clip with Lance from the Serfs.
When he said, a woman should be able to get an abortion whenever she wants.
It's her body.
And then I asked him about meth.
He goes, well, she can't do that.
Intentionally kills the baby.
Everybody should.
And then Dave Chappelle goes, gotcha, bitch!
So everybody, someone made that edit.
And that is a contradiction in the mind of an individual who doesn't have convictions or logic.
He has tribal acceptance.
He will say what he is supposed to say.
And of course, this is why many leftists don't come on talk shows, because there's no logic to their ideas.
They're saying things that they're supposed to say.
Regular people don't live in that world.
So when you bring Woke Snow White, Girl Boss, and the Seven Companions, they're gonna be like, I don't know.
Are they gonna do a Snow White with the Prince?
I wanna see that.
hannah claire brimelow
Also, girls like talking about love.
They think about it all the time, and relationships.
The way they're hardwired to pretend otherwise is stupid.
It's disingenuous, also ridiculous.
tim pool
I saw this interesting thing on Twitter, and it said the reason women get offended by mansplaining is because men and women communicate with each other differently.
Men talk to each other about things they know.
Women talk to each other about their feelings, on average.
So when a man starts talking to a woman, he starts talking about knowledge-based things, and the woman doesn't like it.
Women talk about feelings.
That's what they prefer more.
ian crossland
And you better listen.
tim pool
So, but ultimately what it comes down to is...
How many people really, she's like, it's not 1937 anymore, she's gonna be the leader she can be.
Okay, well here's an honest question.
How many women genuinely want to be world leaders?
A lot of them do, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying they don't.
I'm saying, I'm willing to bet, if you polled the average woman, go to Times Square, and walk up to as many people as possible and say, would you want to rule the world?
Men are probably two to one gonna say yes.
Women two to one gonna say no.
ian crossland
Someone on Twitter.
tim pool
I'm not saying it's absolute.
A lot of women will say yes for sure.
dave landau
No, but a lot of these stories have to come from a place of knowing, and I guarantee you a man wrote the script or greenlit it or gave notes.
There's an SNL sketch, not that they ever do very well with it, but there's one where it's a house full of people and it's one of the reality shows, and there's lesbians.
And the whole joke is the two women are laying in bed together and they're going like, I see you, I know I see you too, I see you, and I see you.
And it's hilarious because if a guy wrote that it would be like, what, Doc Martens?
They both work construction?
Like it would be this hacky, but it was actually really funny because it was written from a place of understanding who they actually were to make fun of it.
So you have this thing that doesn't actually make sense to any guy, and you probably have these studio heads going like, yeah, she wants to be a boss lady.
Like, we'll do it like that, right?
That's what all women want.
And you're not going to get anything that connects with an audience.
tim pool
So here's the issue.
How many women want to see a movie about a woman being in charge, and how many men want to see a movie where the man is not needed and not useful?
dave landau
None.
tim pool
I'm sure some.
There's a market for it, but it's probably small.
dave landau
Well, yeah.
tim pool
Here's the question.
Why are there so many... I'll go with none.
How come 95% of strip clubs are women?
ian crossland
The girls that work there, you mean?
The people that work there?
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
95% of strip clubs are women stripping.
ian crossland
I would say testosterone is probably the number one reason.
tim pool
How come it's not 50-50?
Yeah, these feminists gotta get on these male strip clubs.
hannah claire brimelow
It's almost like girls don't want to go there.
It's interesting.
It's like they're not seeking out.
ian crossland
Like the women are a way of fantasizing about impregnating other women.
dave landau
I've seen those bear movies and those fat ants sure go to town.
tim pool
Women on average are not attracted to submissive men who are being controlled by someone else.
That's true.
This is my opinion, I'm not making it up.
I was reading studies on the disparity and what they've found is women go to male strip clubs typically because it's funny.
Women go to female strip clubs because it's funny.
Men go to female strip clubs because they're horny.
What they said was that women are not attracted to weak men who are being dominated by somebody else.
Going into a big room where the man has to perform for a group of people who are hooting and hollering is not typically attractive to a woman.
dave landau
Seeing the creep that can come out in men who get way too aroused at a strip club, I would imagine it's not- it's like the girl from The Office who's like, I'll go, I don't mind seeing that, but then she'll never talk to you again.
tim pool
Right.
dave landau
Because she's seen you at your lowest point.
Like if you go- like if you go to a strip club, a male strip club, have you been?
unidentified
No, I've never been to a male st- I've been- I've, like, so I was on a- You've never been to Danny's in Windsor?
hannah claire brimelow
No, I can't say, like, but the thing is, I have noticed among my- You have a bunch of names spotted ahead?
dave landau
We would go to Cheetah's and the girls would go over there and giggle.
And we would be at what is essentially a whorehouse.
hannah claire brimelow
I've known girls who do that and they're like, haha, look how empowered, so fun!
But like, they're not going there for any reason, right?
They're going there to be like, I'm so forward thinking and edgy, right?
It's the same thing with like, when you have like, bachelorette parties, and they go to drag shows, right?
Like, at bars, hopefully appropriately aged.
They're going because it's like kind of something fun and different.
Men go to strip clubs for an entirely different reason.
They don't go just to be like, look at this fun group activity we're doing.
Like, sorry, you guys are creepy and weird.
tim pool
Guys go by themselves.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
I've never met a girl who's like going alone to an all-male strip club or like any of this.
unidentified
It's ridiculous.
dave landau
Oh, if you do, she's broken in every way imaginable.
hannah claire brimelow
I don't want to know her.
I feel bad for her.
I think part of it is important to acknowledge that like men and women Seek different things out of emotional relationships and even like watching movies, right?
So there are reasons what you'll have this stereotype of like the movie you go with your boyfriend to see versus the movie your girlfriend takes you to see.
I think the example of this weekend of Barbie and Oppenheimer, right?
People are talking about this like in a gendered way.
What I think is dumb about this She's not even thinking about falling in love!
Like, that's just such a lie!
Why are you stripping women from their emotional core?
Like, women are hardwired to seek community and relationships, and part of that is finding a life partner.
And that's cool and beautiful, and if you want her to be, you know, CEO of Not Dwarf Industries or whatever, that's fine, but to be like...
Because she's too good to be thinking about love.
That's sort of ugly towards women, right?
That's saying that these things that you feel naturally are something you should be ashamed of and avoid.
And that's a weird movie for a message to send.
Or a message for a movie to send.
tim pool
I do like that Gal Gadot is the evil queen.
Gal Gadot looks at Rachel Zegler and she's like, I am jealous of how beautiful she is.
hannah claire brimelow
They look the same.
ian crossland
They should have got an ugly woman to play that role.
Well, I think the evil queen was beautiful, but she still was jealous.
tim pool
That was part of her.
Yeah.
Maleficent or whatever.
Is that who it was?
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
It's not that Maleficent isn't beautiful.
It's just that she's jealous.
And part of Snow White's beauty is the fact that she's so kind and she's sweet and things like that.
There is a youthfulness about her that You know, this woman is jealous of him.
And that is actually a super interesting concept.
Women should explore that because jealousy is rampant among women, right?
tim pool
You know what women really did like, though?
That movie where the dude kidnaps the woman's dad and then she gets Stockholm syndrome and marries him.
Beauty and the Beast.
dave landau
Ah, yeah.
They do like that movie.
And he's not even a good-looking fella.
ian crossland
What happens?
unidentified
See?
hannah claire brimelow
Women are not as visually oriented as men.
ian crossland
Who kidnaps who in that movie?
dave landau
Uh, the dad.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
The beast kidnaps her.
dave landau
The beast kidnaps her dad.
tim pool
Y'all made a billion dollars.
dave landau
Yeah.
tim pool
Made a billion dollars.
unidentified
Beauty.
hannah claire brimelow
Is that the live-action one where it's like the beast doesn't even look that good when he comes out of the shell?
tim pool
And it's literally a movie about a monster that kid that like blackmails and extorts him and saying either live with me or I'm gonna kidnap your dad and then she falls in love with him.
hannah claire brimelow
And he has a big library.
He's got assets that she's interested in and, you know, she's not interested.
I remember watching the animated Beauty and the Beast movie, and I've talked to other girls about this, and when they finally show the prince after he, like, stops being the beast, like, you're actually like, well, he's kind of disappointing.
The beast was, like, much more, like, interesting looking.
There is something that women are not compelled by the way that men are.
I think that's the weirdest thing that Hollywood is trying to sometimes argue that like ultimately
women are just as visually oriented as men that they're looking for the same things
men they're not that's why they're different there's a reason for this somebody was a big
bear man who talks to spoons yeah like dude he's got a castle and he dresses nicely and
ian crossland
he got some that's what they're saying on X someone was axing earlier that
they exed out that women want a strong male protective force in their life
I don't know if that's inherent to every woman, but it feels like the movie's trying to write that out.
hannah claire brimelow
And I'm gonna divert back to our little Snow White interview, right?
She's like, she's gonna do all these things her dad told her she could do.
We're upholding the patriarchy, if nothing else.
That's the only winning attribute of this.
tim pool
It would have been better if it would have been more feminist.
If she said, no, dad, I'm not going to do what you think I should.
I've found someone I love and care about, and I want to be with him.
Instead, the film is the dad being like, you're going to be a great leader.
And she's like, sure, whatever you say, dad.
hannah claire brimelow
Whatever you preordain for my life, father, I'll follow your instructions.
I'm not going to go to Wellesley and study art or whatever.
dave landau
I always thought that was in 80s movies and stuff like that, where the guy was a little bit of a slouch or whatever, but the girl still loved him.
Like there wasn't that element where it was just the typical guy, like the girl made that choice.
ian crossland
Like every Kevin Smith movie.
dave landau
Like every Kevin Smith movie.
Yeah.
I guess that's true.
I was trying to think of other ones, but more like, you know, Uncle Buck.
tim pool
You know what's crazy is that Gaston's the good guy, but he's the bad guy.
hannah claire brimelow
No, he's the worst.
He's so narcissistic.
tim pool
That's propaganda.
dave landau
Well, he's also a gay man who's just trying to be like, yeah, I want her to come with me, little fat guy.
hannah claire brimelow
She's a feather in his hat.
He's not appealing to her.
He's an example of what we might describe as false masculinity, right?
He's physically huge, but he is not actually a good companion.
tim pool
No, no, what I'm saying is, you're getting the story from the Beast's perspective, because history is written by the winners, so of course Gaston's this awful dude.
He's a veteran that everyone loves.
Clearly, like, he's built, generated esteem within the community for some reason, and they're just smearing his good name.
He tries to save her.
Beast kidnaps her dad, and then forces her to live with him.
She gets Stockholm Syndrome, and he's like, hey guys, can we get together and save this woman and her dad?
And they're like, you're evil, you're a bad guy.
unidentified
That's true.
hannah claire brimelow
Stockholm Syndrome.
She goes and lives in a castle where enchanted things take care of her.
dave landau
The Beast was actually court-martialed.
tim pool
He locks her room.
hannah claire brimelow
I don't know.
The teacups come out and dance.
She's having an okay time, I will say.
dave landau
To be fair, that might have just been a hallucination.
I mean, you don't know what he was doing.
tim pool
It is also strangely, like, communistic that the prince, minding his own business, gets a knock at the door and some witch is like, give me free stuff.
And he's like, no.
And then she's like, okay, now I'll curse you.
You know what I mean?
It's like, I'm in my house, you know, I'm minding my own business and I get cursed.
What did I do wrong?
ian crossland
The Beast, he would get angry.
That was his, like, worst fault.
Like, he never beat the hell out of Belle.
If he did, the movie wouldn't have got made, for sure.
But she probably would have left.
I would hope that she would leave in that situation.
She's getting beat up by the Beast.
hannah claire brimelow
She's kidnapped.
dave landau
We may have not seen that part.
ian crossland
It's true.
dave landau
Plus, she was largely covered in most of her body.
We don't know.
ian crossland
Yeah, there's no ripped clothing or anything.
He was a gentleman.
A beastly gentleman.
dave landau
He could have been punching her in the legs half the time.
hannah claire brimelow
I just think this Snow White movie is doomed to fail.
I don't understand why we're doing this.
I was gonna say why you have to keep remaking animated Disney classics, right?
dave landau
Oh, they have no ideas.
hannah claire brimelow
You think the dancing teacups are gonna be good in this version?
unidentified
No!
hannah claire brimelow
That's half the charm!
dave landau
There's also no Angela Lansbury, so no thank you.
ian crossland
Yeah, she was lit.
She carried the 80s, man.
dave landau
Yes, she did.
hannah claire brimelow
You're telling me that relationship podcasts are completely dominated by women, but this wench is not thinking about falling in love.
Like, you're just lying!
tim pool
Yeah, I don't want to say the Aladdin movie, which came out in 2019, made a billion dollars as well.
So, I won't be surprised if this one makes some money, but there's a question of where Little Mermaid is in terms of box office.
ian crossland
Oh yeah, I would like to see those numbers.
dave landau
Did that do okay?
I wonder.
People were mad.
It's like, I just don't care.
hannah claire brimelow
I only care because redheads are a genetic minority on Earth, and we just erase them from a casting position.
dave landau
That's true, and you are a redhead.
Yeah, that's true.
hannah claire brimelow
I have even more genetically redheaded relatives, and they, you know, are not being able to see true redheads on... That's the only thing I care about.
dave landau
My brother's a redhead, so I hope it hurt him.
tim pool
Little Mermaid is a break-even film right now.
ian crossland
Oh my gosh.
dave landau
Oh, so it actually is...
hannah claire brimelow
Well, I think it's not an amazing success.
Like they were kind of pretending it would be.
tim pool
Well, I mean, these other movies have had a couple of years to hit the billion dollar mark.
So, I mean, if they made their money back, you know, there you go.
ian crossland
Do you think with Snow White that the story is, they think it's not going to appeal to young women because she's kind of helpless throughout the story.
Like she's, she falls asleep and she's kind of out of it for half the movie.
hannah claire brimelow
I think they miss the charm because they're, they see this character that's, you know, Taking care of the dwarves and packing lunches and like helping them get their house in order and they feel as though that makes her seem too domestic and subservient to these like mythical male characters.
And I think what they miss is the fact that she is like a service-oriented person who's very charming.
There's a lot of joy, you know, she's constantly singing.
I think they miss the things that make Snow White have the beauty that the witch is actually jealous of.
It's not just physical beauty, it's like beauty in the soul.
And they scrub that because they feel like those things make her too subservient.
dave landau
Six weirdos?
tim pool
It did do bad, the release.
It is still one of the highest-grossing Memorial Day opening weekends.
Its projection was $120 to $125 million.
It hit $118.8, so just shy of its target.
However, outside the U.S., it did not do that well.
It fell short of expectations.
So it still looks like, I'm assuming with a budget of around 200 and some odd million dollars, their marketing budget was probably around 200 million as well.
So it looks like as of right now, they're slightly above break-even.
And we'll see.
The thing is, movies are all built upon the previous movie, not the current movie.
What I mean is, Pirates of the Caribbean 2 did well because Pirates of the Caribbean 1 was good.
And, you know, when the first Pirates movie came out, I did not see it in theaters.
I saw it afterwards and was like, wow, that was awesome!
dave landau
Same, yeah.
tim pool
So when the second one came out, I was like, let's go!
And then I was like, that movie sucked!
dave landau
Agreed.
tim pool
And this is where we're at.
People might be saying, I want to go see Little Mermaid because I liked Aladdin and Beauty and the Beast.
And now they may be walking out going like, huh?
So we'll see.
I think I think the Snow White film will probably be a lot worse.
ian crossland
I watched that first Aladdin movie probably 50 times.
That cartoon with Robin Williams.
hannah claire brimelow
All those Disney cartoons are fantastic.
A part of it is because and I wish we had our resident cartoonist here.
The imagery and cartoon manipulation allow you to do things that you obviously wouldn't get to do with live animation.
My example here would be the live-action Lion King, which I didn't see, but everyone who I know who saw it was like, it just, it seemed weird and kind of creepy.
It didn't have this like, adorable animal talking interaction.
It didn't have the charm that animated movies have.
You can't just make something live action.
dave landau
I liked Bill Murray's Blue.
It had its moments.
ian crossland
They're going to put people in AI augmented reality.
Disney's going to make this.
And you'll be able to become the beast.
You'll be able to experience the woman falling in love with you.
You'll be able to rage.
You'll be like, smash the urns on the wall.
And you're like, ah!
And you go through that part of the game.
And then Belle arrives.
You're like, do not hit her.
And you're like, ah!
tim pool
You're under thinking it.
It's gonna be predictive.
dave landau
Murder.
tim pool
Full environmental destruction.
Totally open realities and worlds.
The storylines are gonna be...
Amorphous.
There's going to be a general storyline they want to follow, and you could easily deviate from.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
If you've played Elder Scrolls, I think, uh, was it Oblivion?
ian crossland
That's four, Elder Scrolls four.
tim pool
Where you'd kill a person in the game, and it would be like, this person was important to the timeline, you can choose to continue, but the history is irrevocably damaged, or you can go back and start over.
You could choose.
I love that about those games.
You could actually, in that game, remove a main character and end the storyline.
It's gonna be like that, but fully AI.
So if you do play as the Beast, you could walk up to Belle and just clock her.
Boom!
Right in the face.
And the story breaks.
ian crossland
It'll, like, teach you how to fall- how to- how to get a woman, and then it can manipulate you to think, like, if I say these things, she won't like me.
If I say these, though, she will, and it'll be programming young men to- Yeah, I- I think it's gonna be worse.
dave landau
Could you be, like, a boss girl, even if you're a guy?
unidentified
Yes.
ian crossland
Like, if you wanted to be- Maybe that'll be, like, the difficulty setting.
tim pool
This is what's gonna be.
People are gonna go into these games, and they're gonna be whatever- whatever they identify as.
They're going to enter, you know, single-player virtual realities where they just choose to be what they want to be.
Want to be Superman?
You go into Superman world, you never leave.
But here's what happens.
You will live in the pod and you will eat the bugs.
dave landau
Yeah.
tim pool
That's going to happen.
You know why?
Because we right now are one foot in, one foot out of the traditional reality.
dave landau
Yes.
tim pool
People, these kids that are growing up today are increasingly growing up in the network.
It will be ubiquitous and normal to them.
Go back 200 years and tell one of the founding fathers, in our time, you have to register your number with the government in order to work.
They'll say, what?
No, no, no, no, no.
That can't have happened here.
It's a free country.
We have a constitution.
No, no.
Everybody, when you're born, you get your number stamped and you need that if you want to get access to jobs.
You have your government number.
You know, it's going to be crazy.
People are going to live in pods, totally in isolation.
They're going to do rudimentary jobs.
Most stuff will be automated.
They won't care to ever meet you or interact.
Humans likely will not talk to each other for the most part because they're going to say, look, please, can I just go back in my pod?
My world needs me.
You'll get a knock on the door and it'll be, you know, an IRS guy showing up at your house and it'll be like, we need to deduct taxes from your account.
unidentified
It's fine.
tim pool
It's fine.
Take whatever you want.
I live in the pod.
I ate the bugs.
I don't care.
I got to get back to virtual world.
dave landau
I think you're right, but I don't want it.
unidentified
How do we fix it, though?
Ted Kaczynski?
Nail bombs?
tim pool
No, I'm joking.
dave landau
I'm completely kidding.
We already know that idea failed.
tim pool
Listen, listen.
unidentified
Ted Kaczynski?
tim pool
You, you will...
Nail bombs?
You will... no!
dave landau
No, I know, I'm joking.
I'm completely kidding.
You will...
You already know that idea failed, but he was right about a lot of stuff.
tim pool
He was right about technology destroying the world.
dave landau
Yeah, it was the way he went about it.
It was silly.
I'll say it.
tim pool
So, you're gonna get old.
dave landau
I mean, come on.
tim pool
You're gonna get old.
You're gonna die.
And kids will grow up, and it will be normal, and they will just live their lives.
ian crossland
You gotta, like, make the world exciting.
That's for sure.
tim pool
The world is exciting, but people don't care, man.
dave landau
The real world is exciting, yes.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, maybe you can talk about this, because you actually have a kid, but I feel like part of it is Not plugging your kids in too early, right?
Like letting your kids develop an imagination on their own to have something to contrast it with.
unidentified
That's what we did.
Yeah, you have to.
hannah claire brimelow
Because if you were just immediately trained to seek visual and simulation and like any sort of creative things comes from a screen, then how much of your brain have you cultivated to fill in the gaps when you are not plugged in?
dave landau
My kid likes to play baseball, drums, all kinds of stuff before he likes to go online.
hannah claire brimelow
Which means he'll like to do other stuff before he decides it's worth getting the pot.
dave landau
I would way rather go outside than do it, and that's what I enjoy.
Like, I did show movies earlier on because I love movies and cinema.
Older movies, too.
But, yeah, the idea of just handing somebody a tablet and being like, there you go, that'll raise you.
I mean, I think that's a huge problem today.
I really do.
tim pool
That's exactly why it's gonna... I fear that's where it's going.
Because these kids are going to grow up in that world unless you take away the technology from your kids now, which I don't know, maybe it's possible.
dave landau
I think a lot of people do, and you're right, a lot of people don't.
And I think the fact is, too, with schools, I don't know, I mean our school not as much, I don't know how public schools do it, but a lot, a huge part of that is taking your tablet, taking other things, like you are learning on all of this stuff.
So eventually, yeah, I mean, everything that you are learning and everything that's going into your head is part of this whole system.
ian crossland
That's the value of it, is the data transmission.
You can learn information so quickly.
You can learn where to hit the tree with the axe.
You can learn how to sharpen the axe.
You can learn where to get an axe.
hannah claire brimelow
But I feel like part of it is training kids to read the first ten sentences of something and move on to the next thing.
Whereas if you handed a kid a book and were like, read these things and tell me what you learned, it's training the attention span to last longer and you're still getting a lot of information.
ian crossland
Yeah, attention span's big.
Shorts make me nervous.
Internet shorts, like Instagram, YouTube shorts.
dave landau
They really do.
I don't like putting that up.
I even like putting up a whole cartoon I've made, you know what I mean?
But people don't like it as much.
ian crossland
But there's a value to watching them pour molten copper into dry ice.
I'm like, okay, it only takes 30 seconds.
Let's see what happens when the molten copper hits the dry ice.
And it's just fascinating to watch.
And if I could have saw that when I was six, if I could have seen that when I was six, would it help me learn?
hannah claire brimelow
But if you saw that and then had to read an explanation of what actual chemical changes are happening, you would actually be better versed.
You can say, I saw this video and this is what happened, but if I asked you to explain why those things are happening, what are the theories behind them, you may not be as prepared to talk about it.
ian crossland
Oh, good idea.
hannah claire brimelow
You see what I mean?
It's not that technology has to be evil all the time.
I just think that there are traditional ways of consuming information that take longer.
So we feel like it's better because it's coming at us faster.
But again, that's our desire to have immediate gratification.
dave landau
I think if you watch something happen like that, though, depending on the age, over time you
can learn it of why it happened if you're interested.
Sometimes you can't take in that information just by reading it.
I think the idea of maybe seeing something like that and then wanting to understand why it happened
is also a benefit, if that makes sense.
Like at least the way that I always learn.
ian crossland
Like showing a kid seven different Instagram stories or whatever stories of like science projects and then the one that they like the most you'll investigate that one?
dave landau
Right.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, or like kids have questions, right?
So like I could see, you know, if your kid is like, where's ketchup come from?
Like pulling out a YouTube video that's 10 minutes long that gives like a brief history of ketchup.
This is a specific example from my real life, you know, can be good.
But then also on top of that, trying to be like, Well, let's maybe read about this period of history that this came from, or this region of the world.
Like, trying to show them that you can expand knowledge that isn't just, like, falling down a video hole of, like, things that are slightly related.
It's a very different way of giving children knowledge.
You're actually a parent, so you should probably talk about this.
dave landau
No, I don't think you're wrong.
I mean, if my son asked where ketchup came from, I'd be like, it's a bottle.
I really wouldn't have any answer for it.
hannah claire brimelow
I feel like tomatoes and sugar... Well, like, that's a full on, like, does your kid want to know what is literally ketchup made of?
Could you, like, look that up?
Or is it, like, what's the history?
How did we get ketchup?
dave landau
Yeah, I'd probably look it up and explain it more than just show a video, to be honest.
tim pool
A man who had traveled to China, and they had katsa, and he tried to recreate it, and it was a tomato-based vinegar sauce, and he got katsa.
hannah claire brimelow
And they were actually all kinds of other versions of ketchup, too.
It wasn't originally just tomato.
It was Americans that kind of made it homogenized tomato.
tim pool
Oh, interesting.
dave landau
Some guy was like, I deep fried a potato.
And they were like, this is crazy.
tim pool
You know the potato chip story?
dave landau
No.
tim pool
A guy was at a restaurant.
This is the legend.
And he ordered thinly sliced potatoes with his meal.
He got them.
They were not thin enough.
And he complained and said, I wanted thinly sliced potatoes.
These are thick.
And so the chef was like, okay.
And he cut them thin and gives them back.
And the guy was like, I said thin.
So the chef was like, are you okay?
Fine.
So he cut them as thin as he could and fried them.
So they were chips.
And the guy was like, these are amazing.
Is there exactly what I want?
And that's the legend of potato chips.
ian crossland
Yeah, this comes from kisap, ketchup, from the Malay word kisap, which meant soy sauce.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, it's a sauce, and in England there were several different versions, again, because they got picked up and moved around.
ian crossland
So they changed it from soy to tomato at some point.
hannah claire brimelow
Right, and again, I watched one 10-minute YouTube video on this, I'm an expert now.
One of the reasons Heinz is famous is because they switched to the clear glass bottle, before that they were packaging them in green bottles.
But they were like, our way of making it makes them fresher, and the color is better, because a lot of ketchup was sort of more brown, and it was disguised in the green bottle.
dave landau
And kids love red.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
dave landau
It's true.
hannah claire brimelow
It's true.
tim pool
Isn't it kind of weird that, like, ketchup is the meritocratic sauce of choice?
dave landau
It's so good.
unidentified
Yeah!
tim pool
It's just, like, the sauce.
dave landau
I'm still down with it, I'm not gonna lie.
unidentified
I love ketchup.
ian crossland
It's amazing.
tim pool
I get the good stuff, though, that has no sugar added to it.
ian crossland
Yeah, the organic, just straight up tomato.
dave landau
I get the trash.
tim pool
The corn syrup stuff.
dave landau
I eat like a raccoon.
ian crossland
It was interesting Hannah, you said you kind of ingest that you watched a 10 minute video and now you're an expert because you kind of become, when you gain, you're starting to gain expertise just from 10 minutes.
So like as a good kid, you got to balance out the intake because if you watch 80 10 minute videos, you're not going to be an expert in all 80.
Like if you watch one of them and you over and over and you pay attention to it.
hannah claire brimelow
Watching the videos with my younger sisters who asked me, where did ketchup come from?
How did we get it?
We got to this part and I was like, oh, we could go to the Heinz Ketchup Museum and like learn some more about this if you wanted to.
Like, there are lots of ways to take in information that aren't just like online, right?
tim pool
You can do a skit where it's like, you know, you got the keto diet, you got carnivore, you got vegan and you have the raccoon diet.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Where you're like, you walk into a restaurant and grab someone's half-eaten sandwich and just start eating it.
dave landau
You're like, see?
It's whatever's left.
tim pool
It's A-food's food, you know what I mean?
dave landau
Just finish someone's milkshake.
tim pool
And you can explain, the reason it's better is that in the average American diet, people tend to have a routine and they'll eat many of the same things.
This means a restricted amount of vitamins they're actually getting in their diet.
With the raccoon diet, you get a plethora of different foods, thus getting all the vitamins you need.
dave landau
Yes, and you get a little bit of exercise because people will try to get their food back while you hiss at them and run.
hannah claire brimelow
I think this is amazing.
You should patent this lifestyle.
ian crossland
He'll get like dark rings under his eyes.
unidentified
Slowly you look like a burglar every time you grab someone's food.
That's good.
dave landau
You get the crap kicked out of you at a Waffle House with your raccoon diet.
tim pool
He's got rings under his eyes.
unidentified
Black eyes, yeah.
Yeah, black eyes.
tim pool
Big black eyes.
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But let's read some Super Chats.
I didn't mention some of these already, so let's read some more.
Elaine Benne says, Cast Brew doesn't ship to Canada.
Harumph!
I do believe international shipping is in the works.
There's like something we have to do.
And we may have new products tomorrow.
We may.
The latest update I got is it looks like we may have the Keurig Cups, the decaf blends.
I don't think we're having an espresso roast just yet, but the K-Cups, it's big.
And that may be tomorrow.
We have Sleepy Joe.
And Unwoke, our decaf blends, will be available at casprew.com.
And we're going to be separating, right now, all of the blends.
If you click it, you choose ground or whole.
But we keep getting emails from people who are like, how come you don't offer whole bean?
Because the graphics says ground on it.
So we're just gonna double it up.
So it's gonna say ground and whole, and that way people can just click it.
But I'm excited for that.
So we will be.
ian crossland
Question on the K, on the K-cup.
Is it, they're called K-cups for legal purposes?
tim pool
I have no idea.
ian crossland
I don't know how that works.
Because Keurig was a company that I think they got invented for, and then the cups just became prolific.
tim pool
It's a colloquial term.
K-cup.
That's all everyone says.
Let's grab some more super chats.
Raymond G. Stanley, Jr.
says, and he's back.
Tim, were you chomping at the bit to make content after a week away?
Hannah Clare held down the fort last week.
Seamus, well, haha.
Oh, Seamus!
We're glad he was here.
I was sitting in a recliner for, you know, like eight hours a day staring at dolphins.
For the most part.
It was cool.
The view was just the ocean.
And you could see the border, and there were dolphins, and the funniest thing that happened was, um... And with no disrespect to the wonderful nurse and people there, there was a seal, okay?
And the seal was by itself.
And the dolphins were bothering that seal.
But do you guys know how to say bother in Spanish?
dave landau
No.
tim pool
Do you want to look it up real quick?
dave landau
Hector?
tim pool
Nope.
dave landau
Well, Hector is a term for bother.
ian crossland
I think so.
unidentified
That's true.
I appreciate your language.
tim pool
What is it?
ian crossland
La molestia.
tim pool
Yeah.
ian crossland
Let me say that again.
La molestia.
dave landau
Oh yeah!
ian crossland
Right.
dave landau
Just like do not disturb.
ian crossland
Molestar to bother.
tim pool
That's right.
People are saying molestar.
So, the kind woman who worked there, whose second language was English, said, the dolphins keep molesting the seal!
And we just started laughing.
And she's like, look, look, they're molesting the seal!
And we're like, yeah.
And I'm just like, I know what it means in Spanish.
I'm not gonna be mean.
But it was funny.
unidentified
It is funny.
tim pool
The dolphins were just swimming around the seal and bothering it.
They weren't doing anything untoward beyond that.
But it was fun!
So, glad to be back.
ian crossland
I've seen dolphins do some crazy stuff with- They were jumping!
That's awesome.
unidentified
Yeah, wow.
tim pool
And then there are these birds that go up in the air and then dive down straight into the beach.
Super cool.
dave landau
What were they?
tim pool
I don't know what they're called.
dave landau
I don't know.
unidentified
It was cool.
tim pool
They go up and they're in San Diego too.
And then you see them dive boom into the water and then come out with a fish.
dave landau
I thought they were like pelicans.
ian crossland
Are they herrings?
tim pool
Yeah, I don't think they're pelicans.
They may be herons.
unidentified
Seagulls?
No, not seagulls.
dave landau
No, seagulls aren't smooth like that.
Those are just beggars.
tim pool
There are a lot of sea lions in San Diego, though.
Everybody who lives there knows, like, it's a normal thing.
hannah claire brimelow
Up in California, right?
tim pool
Yeah, and there was, like, a seal laying on the beach in the morning, and people came over and started, like, yelling at it, and then it ran into the water, and then the dolphins.
Yeah, very weird.
dave landau
A lot of manatees in Hermosa Beach.
That was always weird.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
And in Florida, too.
In Florida.
In the swamps and stuff.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah, seagulls are on the raccoon diet.
Yeah, they are.
hannah claire brimelow
They're trash.
They're air raccoons, one might say.
dave landau
That's why you feed them Alka-Seltzer, watch them die.
ian crossland
You ever see those pictures or videos of them swooping down and taking ice cream with them on their way out?
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Watch those, crazy.
dave landau
No, I would feed seagulls when I was a kid, but you can't do it now.
hannah claire brimelow
What would you feed them?
Alka-Seltzer?
dave landau
Yeah, whatever you had with you.
hannah claire brimelow
Okay, Raccoon.
tim pool
Alright, let's read some more.
FireBurnsPeople says, Tim, this morning you talked about customer service being a robot.
The trick to getting by all the robots is to speak complete gibberish regardless until it forwards you to a real person.
Incorrect!
Good sir.
I am going to teach you all a powerful hack.
Have you ever been dealing with customer service and it's a robot?
dave landau
You bet.
tim pool
And when you speak and say, hi, I'm having a problem with my phone service, it'll go, okay, let me see if I can help you.
You said your car service?
No, my phone service.
I'm sorry, let me try again.
There's one simple thing you have to say.
To get it to instantly transfer you to a human.
And you know what that one simple thing is?
dave landau
What?
tim pool
Operator.
Fuck you.
dave landau
Really?
tim pool
I am not joking.
Okay?
You already swore earlier on, so I swore.
ian crossland
Yeah, let's make this one up.
tim pool
We're already there.
I have learned, in most instances, what I would first do is say, human being, and it would go, you want to talk to a representative, but I can help.
Why don't you try asking me the question?
Human being!
I'm sorry, I didn't get that.
I'm like, ah!
I learned a long time ago, that as soon as you say fuck you, it goes, I'm transferring you now. Is it a tone that you said if you
ian crossland
go and you say it real nice like fuck you?
tim pool
Will it be like it doesn't know the tone you can just literally be like hello
Fuck you and it goes Transferring call. Wow. Just you instantly no problem
So I was on the phone with united and the first time I saw united
This is crazy united transferred us from our first class flight from vegas to dc
To coach den so it was vegas houston dc. They They abruptly, without telling us, moved us to a different flight.
So we went Vegas, Denver, D.C., coach in the back of the plane.
I'm like, we paid for this, give us a refund at least.
They were like, I'm sorry, we can't help you.
There were no employees.
So we get to the airport, our tickets are gone, the app doesn't have them anymore.
This is the crazy thing about not having your ticket printed too.
It's like the app just gone.
I'm like, how am I getting in?
Go to the terminal.
No employees anywhere.
Not a single agent.
So I call the customer service line.
Robot.
And I say human being over and over again.
It would not do it.
Fine lights.
Went, fuck you.
And then it was like, transferring your call.
Instantly.
Sent me to a woman who was in South Africa.
And she had no idea what was going on.
Said, sir, your original flight to Houston to DC is still here.
Listed as available.
First class.
I don't understand what you're talking about.
And I'm like, I have an email saying you moved me to a different flight, coach, and she was like, I can put you back, I guess.
There was a delay, I guess, and because of the delay, they just moved without asking us, even though the delay, there was still another flight we could have caught.
Then, finally, when an employee showed up, they snapped at us and yelled at us and said, I can't help you, go away.
So I'm just like, this is crazy.
The funniest thing that happened though, you're gonna love it.
I'm standing at the counter waiting and a woman looks at a guy and she goes, I'm sorry sir, we'll get your bag on the plane but the computers are down.
And I just thought it was absolutely hilarious that there is an issue.
A man has a bag in front of him.
The bag should be on the plane with him.
But the computers are down so they can't do it.
Why?
Only the computer had the authority to allow the bag to go on the plane.
So the human being, staring at the bag, couldn't do it.
I'm like, that's the future.
You're going to require some ridiculously rudimentary task, and the computer will say, sorry.
You'll be at a convenience store, you'll have a bottle of Pepsi in your hand, and a dollar in your other, and it'll say, I'm sorry man, computers are down, I can't sell you that Pepsi.
And you'll be like, can I leave the dollar here with you?
No, I'll get in trouble, I can't do it.
I can't trade with you unless the Mark of the Beast.
unidentified
Yep.
ian crossland
That's exactly what I was thinking.
dave landau
I had one time the most amazing thing with United, now that you've mentioned that airline,
was I was going to get on, they go, actually we have a flight that's an hour sooner to
Greenville.
And I was like, oh, that's great.
So I got on the flight and I flew and I was supposed to go to Greenville, South Carolina.
So I landed in Greenville, North Carolina.
So when I got there to be picked up, it's like, we're at the airport.
I'm like, I'm at the airport.
I don't know what's going- I'm right here.
tim pool
No, for real?
dave landau
For real.
They put you on a different- To a different state.
tim pool
Wasn't the airport code different?
dave landau
Huh?
Yeah.
unidentified
Wow.
dave landau
I didn't know, though.
tim pool
United did this.
dave landau
I assumed they were, like, you know, aware.
So I just took their word for it.
Nobody corrected me.
So when I got there, finally, they're like, oh, you're in a different state.
I'm like, of course.
Why wouldn't I be?
tim pool
But I want to stress this, too.
I will never fly United again.
It is insane.
dave landau
No, that was the day I stopped.
ian crossland
Delta's the way for me.
tim pool
People keep telling me Delta.
It was 3 a.m.
Our flight was at 6 a.m.
We wake up at 3.30.
We get to the airport at like 4 something.
Boarding time was 5.20.
Right, so I already have the app with the tickets on it.
Right when we get to security, I look at the app and it says, Sea Agent, and it said Denver instead of Houston, and I'm like, what just happened?
How did, I did not buy a ticket to Denver.
So, you don't need, you don't need tickets to get in the airport anymore, which is crazy.
I think you legally do whatever, but they were like, it said ticket available, but no seat assignment or anything like that.
And the guy was like, nah, it's fine.
You don't need to just come on in.
And I went in.
Went to security and they don't check for that anymore.
And then went to the terminal, no employees anywhere.
Boarding was in 20 minutes and I'm like, what is going on?
It's crazy.
ian crossland
From Colorado on the way back last weekend, I guess, I flew United and my flight got delayed going into Chicago.
And I got off the plane, they were like, you have nine minutes.
Your plane is leaving in 10 minutes.
So I ran the hardest I'd run in 17 years.
Literally in 17 years, I ran flailing through the airport and I was coughing up mucus.
Thanks, United.
I made my flight, though, somehow.
dave landau
Really?
ian crossland
It was crazy.
I ran so hard, like red zone hard.
unidentified
It was nuts.
dave landau
Dude, I hate that.
They're like, oh, you're lucky you made it.
You're like, really?
I know!
hannah claire brimelow
This seems like it's your fault!
ian crossland
Luck had nothing to do with it, my friends.
Not at that time.
I pushed myself.
dave landau
Yeah, I can't stand it.
ian crossland
And I thought about dudes in the military, like, running with rucksacks for their life.
dave landau
Yeah.
ian crossland
The amount of respect I gain for people that have gone through that, man.
dave landau
Oh, dude, I could never.
That's why, yeah, I respect veterans.
hannah claire brimelow
The raccoon diet won't support rucksack riding?
dave landau
No, no, no, I can barely get away from the people who want their sandwich back.
tim pool
Let's read some more Superchats.
DefinitelyNotAFed says, my best friend was a private chef to a billionaire, would spend weekends at a time at their estate, was like family with them.
When he quit, the billionaire cried and said that he felt like it was losing a family member.
Yeah, you know, I understand that for sure.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
Especially if someone's in your home all the time.
dave landau
Yeah.
ian crossland
Making the food you're consuming so like their spirit becomes part of you.
dave landau
Making love to you on Tuesdays.
unidentified
With their eyes.
tim pool
Sammy Scott says I tried to swim across a river.
I'm unfit.
I used all my energy about halfway, went back in an empty tank, got 10 feet from the shore and literally couldn't move, just started sinking.
My mate saved me.
Man, crazy.
Glad to hear you're alright.
Were you doing the thing where you go forward and then you go on your back and then go back and stuff like that?
That's what you're supposed to do.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
tim pool
Alternate.
Oh, you float and then... You go on your back and backstroke or whatever.
Then, once you get tired, you flip over and use different muscles.
dave landau
Oh, I didn't know that.
I've always been a swimmer, though.
tim pool
Well, don't look at me, I'm not an expert swimmer.
All I know is that when I go in the pool, I just go like this, and I just don't sink.
hannah claire brimelow
But that's because you're Tim Pool.
tim pool
You're not allowed to sink.
Yes, during character creation, they were like, if you use the secret name, you get plus one to swim.
You get the swimming skill based on your name.
dave landau
You can beat any woman in an Olympic race.
tim pool
Yes.
We will grab some super chats.
Let's see where we're at.
What is this?
RWG5 says, my mom majored in Home Ec at Cal Poly San Luis Obispo, San Luis Obispo.
She has a BA in being a mom.
dave landau
Whoa.
tim pool
It's crazy that and there were like degrees you could get in Home Ec stuff.
dave landau
Yeah.
tim pool
See, this is the thing.
For human beings, everybody wants social acceptance, to varying degrees.
So guys get it through doing guy things, and women get it through women things, but now all media and all culture is saying, be a guy.
It used to be that you were like, I have a degree in home economics.
I'm the expert.
And you would be praised and feel good for that accomplishment.
So women were like, I have something to strive toward.
This is a good thing.
And people were impressed by it.
And then one day they were like, nah, you should be working in an office.
ian crossland
It's the power of a woman, man, at home to take care of me.
Like, I never really have appreciated it until this point in my life.
And I don't have kids yet.
I imagine when the kids are in the picture and the woman is taking care of them, it's like the most amazing.
But just to be able to help me with diet and focus and motivation, you cannot buy that.
hannah claire brimelow
I also think we used to think of running a home like essentially running a small business
with these crazy customers slash employees that don't really speak English, AKA children.
One of the things that I've read about Home Ec is if you suddenly own a home,
and we all theoretically go through stages where you have to learn how to evaluate appliances,
how do you price home repair, how do you make nutritious food,
especially in the day and age when you didn't have as much nutrition information printed on the package,
how do you sew your own clothes?
All of these things that we had to do at one point We're and to varying degrees you still have to do.
They were very serious things that needed management.
So if you're a man out there earning money great for you.
Someone has to keep the business running at the house and that typically falls on like it's more than just the emotional support.
That's a huge part of it.
But there was a time when we respected that the family was a unit that needed maintenance and care and that was typically something women took care of.
And because we had these institutions to support them, it showed that this was something we wanted as a society.
When we took those away, it was like saying, that's not important, you shouldn't do it.
But everyone in this room has a household that needs to be kept up.
It's crazy to me that we threw that out.
tim pool
Yeah.
Here's a good one.
Baileyann says, Elon needs to put in a local tab that shows what the people in your city and state are talking about on top of all other tabs.
Agreed.
That's fantastic.
That's a great idea.
dave landau
I think that is a good idea.
tim pool
Yeah, local, and you'll see just people around you posting stuff.
That's really... Elon!
Somebody tell... If you're watching this and you know him, mention that to him, because that's a really, really good idea, Bailey, and shout out.
I would love to use that right now.
Because it's really important.
When I was in New York, it was easy.
When there was something going on, we heard a loud noise, I would search, like, New York bang, and then you'd see everyone posting about it.
You can do that, but it's not as easy if you're in a rural area or smaller town.
Imagine if you heard a big explosion or something, you could pull up your app, or you, like, a storm was coming in, you open up Twitter, you press the magnifying glass, there's For You, there's Trending, and there's Local.
hannah claire brimelow
Could you just use, like, your town's, like, name and state as a hashtag to get out information that way?
tim pool
But people don't do that.
hannah claire brimelow
But if they did do that, that would be one way of handling it.
tim pool
Sure, sure.
hannah claire brimelow
Until Elon comes through with this change, perhaps that's the solution.
ian crossland
For this geotracking device.
tim pool
People could do that, but it's an issue of, do people know how?
And if you create a tab in the search section that says local, and it just shows you people in proximity talking about what they talk about publicly, That's a brilliant idea.
ian crossland
Or if you could change the setting in the local tab to any zip code.
tim pool
Right, because you'll be traveling and stuff.
unidentified
That would be a great idea, because you could even do Marketplace like Facebook does.
Craigslist is dead.
I don't know if you guys have used Craigslist recently, but no one uses it anymore.
dave landau
Just to murder.
unidentified
Everyone uses Facebook Marketplace, and Twitter could do that with Locals if they already have the Geo kind of fencing up with local tweets, you know, you just start selling products and Facebook marketplace.
hannah claire brimelow
Sometimes you get a subsidized shipping It like cost less if you buy something off basic marketplace and ship it than if you just like ship to someone directly Let's jump to another super chat.
tim pool
We have self-made woman saying Tim at all I know where you stand on this, but I'm wired to desire Neuralink.
I need that chip in my head experiencing transhuman dysphoria How can I get Neuralink's attention?
The Leaky Spigot.
I have no idea.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
But if you'd like to volunteer, perhaps you can go on Twitter and tweet at Elon Musk and say you volunteer for the chip.
What did he say?
ian crossland
He needs the thing?
How did he phrase that?
Do you still have that tweet?
He rhymed something in the very beginning.
tim pool
Experiencing transhuman dysphoria.
ian crossland
It was like the very first thing he typed.
tim pool
Self-made woman says, Tim et al, I know where you stand on this, but I'm wired to desire.
ian crossland
Wired to desire.
You're wired.
How do you get the attention?
Do you want it in your head sooner than later?
Just be patient.
tim pool
I'm telling you, people will beg for it.
They will beg for it.
You know why?
dave landau
For the chip?
tim pool
Yes.
hannah claire brimelow
No, thank you.
tim pool
It's not just going to be incels who want girlfriends.
It's going to be a dad who lost his son.
It's going to be a mom, a wife who lost her husband.
It is going to be a mother whose son died in the war.
And in that reality, they can take every social media post that they ever made, and they will create the predictive text version of your loved one that you lost.
And they will say to you, join us, get the chip, and talk to Nana again.
Talk to Jimmy again.
And people are gonna say, I will give you anything.
dave landau
I would rather live the pain of knowing the person who I love.
tim pool
Yeah, some people will, but I tell you, most people are gonna jump right in.
dave landau
I'm not saying you're wrong either, I just can't imagine being so disconnected from the reality of life.
ian crossland
I mean, that's part of life, is the beauty of that you knew somebody, not this AI version of... I would think, like, if you dip off the AI at the end of the day, or whatever, you turn the machine off, that it would cause visceral emotional damage, like, in your gut, like, hatred, like, the most anger-filled... But that's why you become addicted to it, right?
hannah claire brimelow
Like, you never want to leave the AI, and then you atrophy and die.
You can't maintain any real-life social connections.
dave landau
I think reliving that pain, though, in such a...
God, extreme way.
That would almost cause suicide or some sort of reaction that you couldn't even control.
I mean, that could be so dangerous.
tim pool
There are a lot of people who are going to be like, no, how dare you?
dave landau
Of course, yeah.
tim pool
But I'm telling you, man, I'm willing to bet that the average person will just be like, don't judge me.
They'll do it in secret.
They'll say, oh, you know, I got it for my health.
I can check my health and then they'll go home.
And it's not just that.
There's shame stuff in emotional breakdowns.
People not wanting to know how messed up they are over the loss of a loved one or a breakup.
Who knows what it is?
But then there's going to be a lot of dudes doing really messed up stuff.
I mean, let's be real.
We can talk about the messed up stuff dudes are gonna do with virtual worlds they can create.
Women will do a different kind of messed up thing.
They will have their version of twisted, demented porn like Fifty Shades of Grey.
And they're gonna plug their brains in in two seconds.
hannah claire brimelow
Or it's gonna be weird emotional stuff, like if they go through an intense breakup, right?
And in the real world, they meet someone else, they get married, start a family, but secretly they're still with that other person in this virtual world.
Like, can you imagine, male or female, that level of emotional betrayal if one day you found out that, like, The person you love more than anyone else in the world is actually keeping alive a relationship?
tim pool
It's beyond that.
dave landau
What if it's even a dog or something that you've had unconditional love for, though?
Do we understand the human brain enough to actually play with that?
tim pool
To make a predictive text model, I think, is easy, but it's not just about a lost loved one or a lost relationship.
It's going to be some dude who's like, man, you know, the waitress is so pretty, I'd love to date her.
I'll date her in virtual reality and never talk to her in real life.
hannah claire brimelow
And then you don't know anything about her and you form her to be whatever you want.
tim pool
No, because all of her tweets and Facebooks are public.
You just tell the app to use that to make the person you want.
hannah claire brimelow
That stuff is curated, right?
Like, you don't put the worst parts of your life online so you can never really know someone.
tim pool
But they don't want it.
dave landau
But wouldn't they want the fictional fantasy?
hannah claire brimelow
Sure, but that means that you wouldn't have a true emotional connection.
You'd have a... But that's the point!
I totally agree with you.
tim pool
Nobody wants that!
dave landau
So that takes away from like an invasion of privacy because they've put it out there in the public, they can create
that person.
tim pool
You can google, if you can google search it, the machine can crawl and take all that text and compile a AI version
of the person.
At least their public persona.
ian crossland
There will be more benevolent people that'll use it, but what'll happen is they'll be really rich and they'll be
like, I just don't have time.
I can't buy time, but I can buy the apps to download Spanish, French, Russian, Italian, I can learn these things rapidly by coding my brain with my money, so all these rich people that didn't have time to do all these things will be able to do them in virtual reality really quick.
tim pool
I disagree.
Only when it comes to language, everything else, yes, I agree on, but language specifically, the chip will just translate for you.
ian crossland
Oh, interesting.
dave landau
It's kind of like short circuit.
tim pool
You don't need the data in your brain.
If someone says it, you'll just instantly, the chip will do the work for you.
ian crossland
Get the powers on.
tim pool
Let's read this one from Captain Sunshine.
It says, Tim, I finally started working out again and quit drinking, started taking supplements to improve my health.
Thanks to your podcast, I've seen the light and decided to own the libs by being healthy.
Who knew you guys were a health podcast?
Well, we've recently learned about the raccoon diet, another way to improve your health.
dave landau
It's a great way to do it.
tim pool
Yeah.
No, glad to hear it.
ian crossland
A lot of reps involved.
dave landau
Yeah, there are a lot of reps.
tim pool
Cutting out the sugars.
No sugar.
ian crossland
Oh, yeah.
Working out.
tim pool
Yeah.
ian crossland
Elimination diets are great.
When you figure out the things that weren't working, it almost doesn't matter what you're eating.
I mean, it obviously matters.
But as long as you're doing something healthy, you just cut out the ones that are really nasty.
dave landau
With the Raccoon Diet, you just, a lot of people don't order dessert.
So really, that's kind of the benefit, is you're not going to get a lot of dessert.
ian crossland
Is it, uh, there's a lot of diplomacy involved?
dave landau
Yeah.
Yeah, quite a bit.
tim pool
Peter Brunquell says, you always bring up furries in your videos like it's a weird thing.
I'm offended.
We're infinitely worse.
Okay.
Thank you for the warning.
dave landau
So that's a real furry, not an otherkin.
tim pool
Yeah, real furry.
dave landau
So that's one who dresses, yeah.
tim pool
PowderPZ says, the beast saved Belle from a pack of wolves.
Fair point!
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
Fair point.
He did.
hannah claire brimelow
Oh, he did kidnap her.
tim pool
No, he did.
The dad goes, and he's like, he was trespassing, so I'm locking him in the dungeon.
She's like, let him go.
And he's like, only if you stay.
unidentified
How do we know it wasn't his pack?
You're assuming he's a wolf, though.
hannah claire brimelow
He's just a nondescript beast.
dave landau
Yeah, but they don't know that they're wolves.
tim pool
The wolves are like, look, we just follow the way he smells.
dave landau
Yeah, they just think he's a wolf.
ian crossland
All right, what do we have?
hannah claire brimelow
I don't have a counterpoint right now.
dave landau
That guy's a real scumbag.
hannah claire brimelow
I'm gonna have to re-watch this Disney movie and get back to you with some points.
ian crossland
Big hunchback wolf.
tim pool
Thomas Sidebottom says, Ian, if you can commit to gaining 20 pounds of muscle, I can commit to losing 20 pounds of fat.
You have motivated me.
ian crossland
That's based.
That would include me gaining about 50 pounds or 60 pounds, I think, because what I'm learning is the weight I gain is not all muscle.
It's a lot of fat and water on top of it.
So 20 pounds of muscle, how much would that be?
40 pounds total?
I'm up five pounds.
tim pool
Four pounds.
ian crossland
But I was down before we got started.
tim pool
The goal for the music video isn't to get Ian, like, super ripped so you see bulging muscles.
It's to get him just, like... I guess the idea is we want to see someone get emaciated, so... A combination of fat and muscle, but not obesity.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
ian crossland
And healthy, too.
Because I considered, like, steroids.
Am I trying to do something optical for the movie?
And, like, I would like it to look good, but I think the most important thing is that I'm actually healthy.
Yeah.
dave landau
Yeah, you don't want steroids.
ian crossland
Maybe put some makeup on some of the muscles.
That was like, ah, but it's like, no, that's cinema.
It's okay.
tim pool
It's not, the guy in the video is not some super athlete who's like all ripped and flexing his muscles.
It's a regular guy.
And in the end, you know, so you were saying that he like dehydrated and didn't eat so he could get way down for the final scene.
ian crossland
It was great.
My mood was out of control.
I didn't even know my mood was bad, but it was bad.
One of those things.
I was telling you guys that before the show.
It's such a weird place to be mentally.
tim pool
But, uh, it's gonna take a long time to do, but it's gonna be really awesome.
ian crossland
That's what they call method acting, when you actually let your body get to the point where it's supposed to be for the role instead of faking it.
tim pool
Inspector Tasty says, had my morning cup of Rise with Roberto Jr.
and remembered this crazy dream I had where TimCast was ShimCast, then briefly ShimCast was BrimCast.
Absolute madness.
Hi, Ian.
ian crossland
Hi.
Brim, what'd you, uh, what'd you think of last week's ShimCast day-to-day?
hannah claire brimelow
I thought it was so fun.
I mean, you know, I'm grateful to do the show with all of you, but, uh, I think the thing is, like, when you work in this environment, there are people that I see, you know, I'll see when I'm getting coffee.
I talk to Seamus regularly.
And it's fun to feel like we are able to still offer a nice product.
And Tim is able to take a break.
And, you know, we don't just suddenly fall off the rails.
It was definitely a marathon for us, though.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
I felt the train.
The train was rocking.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
I think it was fun.
What did you think?
ian crossland
It was great.
Yeah.
Vivek Ramaswamy is one of my favorite humans on Earth.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
We had two presidential candidates on last week.
It was sort of crazy.
unidentified
Really?
hannah claire brimelow
The vacant Larry Elder.
tim pool
Oh, that's right.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, it's Friday.
And so, you know, what a crazy job.
It's so crazy.
I talk to this Irish guy, I get to talk to Ian.
ian crossland
Seamus made a lot of funny jokes.
That was awesome.
hannah claire brimelow
We got to bully Seamus about his transitions.
I mean, really, just family memories were made.
tim pool
I'm bummed I missed it, but, man, for months I've been having range of motion issues in my leg and strength issues at a certain degree, at a certain range.
And it just, like, the last skate session was, like, every time I jumped I got punched.
ian crossland
How was it today?
tim pool
Almost no pain at all.
It's great like a week later, and so doctor said take it easy still exercise So I skated very lightly mostly just did spins No flips because you know keeping it lower to the ground and everything but had a good session and almost no pain at all It's only it's not even been a full week yet.
dave landau
Are you nervous on it now?
Or do you still do you feel more comfortable and confident?
tim pool
I felt better than I've ever felt in a long time skating it was it was crazy like reflexes, everything felt perfect. It was crazy.
ian crossland
That's what people say about the either PRP, platelet-rich plasma, or stem cells,
that it's like you feel better than you did before you got the injury.
tim pool
Oh yeah, it's like fixing everything, you know?
ian crossland
And even improving it sometimes.
tim pool
But I'm gonna see how I skate on Wednesday.
But general improvement and the crazy thing, like, I say it's crazy, crazy, crazy.
I had trouble putting a sock on.
I could lift my right leg and put on my sock.
I could not lift my left leg.
I'd have to sit down and pull my leg over my other leg to put my socks on.
dave landau
Mine's both legs.
tim pool
After getting this, within a few days, Range of Motion was coming back.
And I just, I'm like, I can't believe this.
It's like, it's like hard to believe.
dave landau
Yeah, there's this short amount of time that it changes.
ian crossland
Now you know how Bucko's been feeling.
tim pool
Yeah, no joke.
ian crossland
He's gonna get more stem cells next week, I think.
dave landau
Yeah.
tim pool
So I'm glad to hear it, man.
ian crossland
Hey, and Vivek wants to come back.
Vivek.
Vivek wants to come back now that you're back in town.
tim pool
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was so bummed, because I'm a big fan.
And we might even do some big show.
I don't want to say too much, but we're planning some stuff.
Alright, let's grab one more super chat right here.
Let's see, what do we have?
I thought I had one pulled up.
Reggae Vibe says, there's a movie called 2047 where 70% of the world is plugged full-time into virtual reality.
An assassin is hired to kill terrorists that want to unplug everyone.
In the end, the unplugged people kill them.
Yikes.
Alright, uh, what do we got here?
NoSoupForNoel says, this is John Doyle-level anti-Beast misinformation.
The Beast never suggested Belle stay as his prisoner.
Belle offered to stay.
Alright, alright, okay.
hannah claire brimelow
We gotta watch this movie again.
tim pool
Yeah, we gotta go watch the movie.
Alright, everybody, if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share this show with your friends.
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dave landau
Yes, check out Normal World.
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Normal World.
And go ahead and subscribe.
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Check us out.
tim pool
Right on.
hannah claire brimelow
I'm Hannah Clare Brimlow.
I'm a writer for TimCast.com.
You should go to TimCast.com and click on the read tab.
You can see all the work from Adrian Norman, Chris Burtman, all of our journalists.
They do fantastic stuff.
You should definitely 100% follow at TimCastNews on Twitter and Instagram.
Once again, it's the best.
If you want to follow me personally, you can find me on Instagram at hannahclare.b or on Twitter at hcbrimlow.
Thank you so much.
ian crossland
I am Ian Crossland.
Follow me at Ian Crossland on any and all of the social networks for the most part.
And I X'd you out earlier, Dave, your X profile.
Anyone that's going to follow Dave on X'd is LandauDave.
dave landau
Yes, thank you for Xing that out for me.
ian crossland
You got it.
unidentified
I hate this.
ian crossland
More power to the X, dude.
dave landau
Appreciate the ZD.
ian crossland
X on Z.
unidentified
Yeah, and you guys can follow, or you can X me at X.com, right?
Don't do this, Kellan.
Am I doing it right?
Don't do this!
ian crossland
Soon.
I think Twitter is redirecting to X or something.
unidentified
At KellanPDL.
That's where I X my favorite thoughts and, you know, funny ideas that I have.
Stop!
Thanks, guys.
tim pool
We'll see you all over at TimCast.com in about a minute or so.
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