July 18, 2023 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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| ladies and gentlemen boys and girls welcome to another exciting episode of | ||
| of shim cast IRL. | ||
| This is our second official ShimCast. | ||
| Tim wasn't doing so well. | ||
| He's been struggling. | ||
| So we sent him off to a farm where he's gonna run around with all of the other beanied journalists all day long and he's gonna have a great time. | ||
| Well, you know, Tim's been getting a little older and he's not able to skateboard as much as he liked to. | ||
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As easily. | |
| So, as easily, yes. | ||
| We just want him to be around people who can help him and take care of him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What, so it's like a, like a farm where people take, he's like on a farm with other farmers? | ||
| No, he's on a farm with other journalists and they're all running around and having a fun time wearing their beanies. | ||
| Are they writing articles? | ||
| Uh, yeah, absolutely. | ||
| If they want to, they can. | ||
| But I think they're having so much fun skateboarding, they don't need to. | ||
| And sometimes, when you go to a fun farm, he may want to stay there for a minute. | ||
| What, longer than a week? | ||
| We don't want to promise anything right now, buddy. | ||
| Nah, what kind of farm? | ||
| We'll probably get into it in a bit, but he's okay. | ||
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He's having fun. | |
| We just don't want you to worry. | ||
| We don't want you to worry. | ||
| Well, thanks. | ||
| Now I'm worried. | ||
| Of course, of course. | ||
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| Ladies and gentlemen, tonight's stories, the Democrats are denouncing RFK after the New York Post has accused him of anti-Semitism. | ||
| Gays Against Groomers did a sting operation on Planned Parenthood and the Community Healthcare Network. | ||
| It's a very interesting story we're going to get into. | ||
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| All right, so tonight's first story, RFK has been slammed as anti-Semitic for a claim he made that there's a conversation that needs to be had surrounding some allegations that COVID is more likely to, in fact, or is more likely to result in mortality among certain ethnic groups. | ||
| So we can watch this video right now, and then we'll talk about what some of the people in the press are saying about him. | ||
| Ooh, actually, do you think YouTube might get mad at us if we play this whole thing? | ||
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Why? | |
| They're censoring this Christmas? | ||
| No, I don't think so. | ||
| Yeah, alright, we'll play it. | ||
| You hearing that? | ||
| No, I'm not getting any audio. | ||
| Alright, well, it's not coming through the audio. | ||
| While we get that working, um, we're just gonna... Well, we could talk about it. | ||
| Yeah, we're just gonna explain this. | ||
| So, basically, RFK said, as I mentioned, and he wasn't even saying that he necessarily believed that this was the case, but he's saying that there needs to be a conversation surrounding the fact That according to him, certain studies are showing that COVID does seem to disproportionately affect certain people. | ||
| And he was claiming that the effect that it's having on people is based on genetic factors that are linked to ethnic or racial background. | ||
| Now, I find it very interesting that the left is losing their minds about this because they were actually saying very similar things about COVID during the pandemic. | ||
| Yes, this was early on. | ||
| The CDC was saying that COVID had a greater impact on black and brown communities, right? | ||
| They were saying this specifically. | ||
| They were saying, too, that if you were not taking COVID precautions, you were not only killing grandmas, but you were racist. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because you weren't paying enough attention. | ||
| And I think it's interesting because they also made this a justification for allowing people of color to take the vaccine first. | ||
| So this was a whole lot of affirmative action style policies surrounding COVID, the implementation of treatment, all of these things. | ||
| And now you're not allowed to say that? | ||
| Well, exactly. | ||
| I mean, they were constantly claiming that the African-American community, particularly the black community, is being disproportionately affected by COVID. | ||
| And because of this, we needed to be sure that they got the vaccines first. | ||
| And so RFK, he's saying something a bit different because he is outwardly making the claim that this is based on genetic predisposition, not necessarily cultural factors, but I don't even know if he's making that claim, or if he's just saying that is a claim we have to investigate. | ||
| Exactly, but what happens when we listen to this, and if you listen to him talking, he starts it off with saying, there's an argument that, and then he starts talking that, this does this, and this does this, and if you take it out of context, it sounds like he's saying, this does this, and this does this, but he preempts it with, there's an argument that there are like genetic bioweapons, basically. | ||
| And there's even a news week. | ||
| In fact, it's Newsweek, so maybe we can pull up the Pentagon making race-specific bioweapons to target citizens. | ||
| China says, according to Newsweek, China's making the claim that the Pentagon's doing race-specific bioweapons. | ||
| And this is as recent as May 11th of 2023. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, and when I saw the... So, RFK put up this long thread on Twitter saying, the New York Post is taking me out of context. | ||
| They are misrepresenting what I've said. | ||
| Here is a specific link to a study. | ||
| Here is what I meant by this. | ||
| And he ultimately demanded that they issue an apology because he feels like... Do you know if they did? | ||
| Did they? | ||
| The story is still up and I haven't seen any apology listed. | ||
| No correction at all? | ||
| No correction as far as I could see, or at least acknowledged correction. | ||
| And again, Some of this is maybe they are making an editorial decision. | ||
| I'm sure you can speak to this. | ||
| Well, our reporter took this quote and well, what's interesting too is if you look at the headline and you look at the story, they don't really match. | ||
| So it seems like I know John Levine wrote the story. | ||
| I wonder if John Levine wrote the headline or if someone else wrote that headline. | ||
| I know you guys are in a newsroom, right? | ||
| We have people doing graphics, we have people doing headlines, we have people writing stories, and the graphic, the headline, and the story could all come from completely different people on the same team. | ||
| And it's all sort of blurbs. | ||
| You're saying like, oh, this is what it's about. | ||
| I think it's interesting to me, my first instinct when I see these kinds of conflicts is to say like, wow, RFK really has them on the ropes. | ||
| They do not like this guy's perspective. | ||
| I mean, this is them really starting to launch into the Trump treatment of RFK. | ||
| So for a while they were saying, he's a quack, he's spreading misinformation, he's a huckster, he's trying to sell snake oil and fool people about the medical science for his own personal gain. | ||
| The typical kind of stuff you hear about anyone who gets labeled a conspiracy theorist by the establishment. | ||
| But now they're actually moving into this guy's racist territory, right? | ||
| They're openly referring to him as an anti-Semite simply because he said he wanted to have a discussion. | ||
| about the degree to which COVID seems to have affected different populations. | ||
| Now, of course, the left was very comfortable having the conversation about the effects COVID had on different populations, again, in 2020, in 2021, when they claimed it was disproportionately affecting the African American community, the black community. | ||
| Well, if there's anyone who can recognize anti-Semitism, it should be the people on the Democrat side, because they are really anti-Semitic in a lot of cases. | ||
| Pramila Jayapal came out the other day and was saying that Israel is a racist state, You have Ilhan Omar, who is decidedly anti-Semitic. | ||
| It seems to be, in a lot of cases, what the Democrats accuse other people of doing is the thing that they are doing themselves. | ||
| All the time. | ||
| Well, all the time. | ||
| And there's another element to this which is really important that I want to flag. | ||
| They're using this term, bioweapon. | ||
| They're saying, He's a conspiracy theorist. | ||
| He's saying COVID is a bioweapon and this is a term that people will generally associate with conspiracy theory and because it's so bombastic, it sounds frightening. | ||
| But according to Sir Francis Boyle, the American author of the American implementing legislation of the International Bioweapons Convention, Anything created through gain-of-function research is a bioweapon. | ||
| This is the legal definition. | ||
| So if it's created through gain-of-function research, which many of these institutions are now acknowledging, given that they're saying lab leak hypothesis is more than likely, then it is a bioweapon. | ||
| That's not a controversial claim. | ||
| That's literally what the law says. | ||
| That's literally what the man who wrote the law has said about it. | ||
| And what the left has done is, guess what? | ||
| Labeled him a conspiracy theorist. | ||
| Even though he's literally the person who is responsible for implementing that legislation and writing around it, and they're saying, he's a lawyer, not an epidemiologist, how can he be saying it's a biological weapon? | ||
| Well, because whether something's a biological weapon is not a question of epidemiology, it's a question of law, and he literally wrote the thing. | ||
| This is something that's bothering me right now. | ||
| So I'm looking at the New York Times article titled Robert F. Kennedy Jr. | ||
| airs bigoted new COVID conspiracy theory about Jews and Chinese. | ||
| Is that the article in question? | ||
| I haven't read the article yet. | ||
| No, it's a New York Post article. | ||
| A New York Post. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| All these, it looks like these other, Other outlets are picking up the claim. | ||
| It's like a game of telephone. | ||
| And to be fair, you could see it all over Twitter too. | ||
| Everyone starts coming out saying that RFK is racist and anti-semitic and hateful and all of these kinds of things. | ||
| It really was this classic snowball effect where you have, you know, one headline drove everything. | ||
| A lot of the people who are talking about this story, I wonder if they even read the article or watched the interview or just ran with the headline. | ||
| I'm looking at The Guardian now. | ||
| The White House is now chiming in on it. | ||
| So it's not just news organizations. | ||
| His sister condemned this statement. | ||
| But this is the thing that's interesting about RFK's role in his own family. | ||
| From the get-go, he was the media's favorite new conspiracy theorist. | ||
| The day that he announced, that was one of the first things that came out. | ||
| He questions vaccines. | ||
| He's a conspiracy theorist. | ||
| And regardless of the fact that you don't necessarily have to take medical advice from a politician, I understand that. | ||
| It is interesting that this was the brand they were going to use to hurt his campaign from the beginning, and now they're just sort of going back and trying to find more evidence of this. | ||
| And that's why I think it's an important conversation to have. | ||
| Was this quote accurately represented in the article? | ||
| Is he referring to a study? | ||
| Is he himself promoting false information? | ||
| Because if you don't know that, it's easy to then assume he is in fact this deranged person, right? | ||
| How quickly we forget everything. | ||
| We forget the beginning of COVID. | ||
| We forget all of these conspiracy theories that, as they were called, about the lab leak and everything else that have proven out. | ||
| Do you know what I mean? | ||
| That have proven to be true. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Well, there's another element to this too. | ||
| There's a couple things I want to mention here. | ||
| Firstly, this strikes me As RFK having his Jewish space lasers moment? | ||
| So for those who don't know, Marjorie Taylor Greene is constantly slandered as having said there are these Jewish space lasers. | ||
| It's total nonsense. | ||
| Before she was ever elected to office, she made a very long Facebook post where she was saying things which, by the way, I'm not defending, I don't agree with, but she was basically saying that she thought that forest fires were started She basically floated the question they may have been started by a satellite which was funded by organizations that people claim it is anti-semitic to criticize. | ||
| It's basically the equivalent of saying, oh, if you say something negative about George Soros, you're an anti-semitic conspiracy theorist. | ||
| Marjorie Taylor Greene never, ever, ever said the Jewish space lasers thing. | ||
| It's complete nonsense. | ||
| Even left-wing fact-checkers have said that that's not exactly true. | ||
| They've given it a mixed factuality rating, which is ridiculous, because it is totally false. | ||
| But when you read their rationale, they say, well, no, she never said there were Jewish space lasers. | ||
| She just said that this space satellite that was funded by groups that anti-Semites don't | ||
| like might have started the fire. | ||
| So I guess my point is this is another example of the media and the left-wing establishment | ||
| seeing somebody as a threat and wanting to take everything they're saying totally out | ||
| of context. | ||
| And I got to be honest, I've mentioned that I think RFK has problems. | ||
| There's a lot I don't agree with him on. | ||
| Obviously, I'm a conservative, so I'm not going to agree with him on quite a lot. | ||
| But I felt similarly about Trump. | ||
| I'm not saying I'll ever support RFK. | ||
| I could never support a pro-choice candidate. | ||
| But I remember when Trump first came out of the scene, I remember thinking, I'm not a huge fan of this guy. | ||
| And then I saw who his enemies were and what they were saying about him and how they were smearing him. | ||
| And I began to warm up to him. | ||
| So the media is playing a very dangerous game if their goal is to get people to hate RFK. | ||
| Because the American people know at this point that if you're an enemy of the press, you're a friend of the people. | ||
| Yeah, I think that's so true. | ||
| Well, and if you're an enemy of the Democrats, you're probably a friend of the people too. | ||
| I've got the feeling that like these organizations, somebody, maybe somewhere actually saw it out of context and was like, he said these things and then they printed it. | ||
| And then whether or not they believe they were going to get them out of context and make stuff, maybe they're making stuff up maliciously. | ||
| Maybe they actually thought it, but I think that then the White House and the people in the O'Biden camp. | ||
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I think we should call it the O'Biden camp. | |
| Let's just, let's go with it. | ||
| He's our biggest threat. | ||
| He's obviously gonna win the presidency if he's not slandered and stopped. | ||
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And he's the biggest threat to the medical, pharmaceutical... Do you think he has a chance of winning the presidency? | |
| Well, Michelle Obama apparently is gonna run, so no. | ||
| What about Gavin Newsom? | ||
| He seems to be making a little noise. | ||
| He'll probably be Michelle's VP, probably, I think. | ||
| You think so? | ||
| I think, if Michelle runs, Newsom won't stand a chance. | ||
| Does Michelle Obama have any more qualifications than Hillary Clinton did? | ||
| I think she has less. | ||
| I think she actually has less, to be honest. | ||
| She wasn't even Secretary of State. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think she has less. | ||
| Part of her whole qualification, right, is being first lady. | ||
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She's really cool. | |
| She's really personable. | ||
| From knowing Obama. | ||
| There are a lot of... Compared to Hillary. | ||
| Isn't she like anti-fat people, though? | ||
| Remember her whole... Oh, get out and move! | ||
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Yeah, let's grow healthy people, I think is the way. | |
| I think that... Sorry. | ||
| No, it's okay. | ||
| I think it's interesting because, you're right, there are lots of cool, nice things, people in the world. | ||
| That doesn't mean they all should be president. | ||
| But with RFK, I think the biggest threat is not necessarily that he would win as a Democrat. | ||
| It's that he would run as a third party and siphon Votes away. | ||
| I mean, a la Ross Perot, right? | ||
| I'd love to see it. | ||
| I would love to see it. | ||
| I read some headline that Joe Manchin is exploring a third party campaign. | ||
| I don't know if that's true at all. | ||
| But that is actually the biggest problem for Democrats right now, because their own base is not really sure what to make of them, right? | ||
| A third party candidate in our system is actually dangerous, not because they could win the White House, but because they could take away from the base of one of these two parties. | ||
| Exactly, and so I would actually argue in many ways the left-wing press is more afraid of RFK than they are of Trump, just in the sense that we know they kind of wanted to prop Trump up. | ||
| At least some of them did for their quote-unquote Pied Piper strategy. | ||
| We learned this from the email leaks we got from the Clinton campaign. | ||
| The truth is that They think that they can beat Trump. | ||
| I'm not saying that's true, but they believe they can. | ||
| They have no idea what to do with RFK. | ||
| They really are afraid. | ||
| And they're also afraid of him changing the status quo of the Democratic Party. | ||
| One of Trump's accomplishments, one of the things you absolutely cannot take away from him, is he pushed all the neocons and the warhawks out of the Republican Party, or at least the majority of them. | ||
| Well, he didn't really. | ||
| A lot of them are in their Congress saying that we need to have more funding for Ukraine. | ||
| Yes, some of them are, but like he pushed Liz Cheney out, he definitely changed the status quo, he made it clear that there was a massive base of Republican voters who were not going to go for that crap. | ||
| The entire Republican establishment or the vast majority of Republican politicians who are popular are speaking out against intervening in Ukraine. | ||
| So a lot has changed in the Republican Party with respect to the messaging on warfare because of Trump. | ||
| Isn't it really just the Freedom Caucus people? | ||
| Well, I think they're afraid that RFK is basically going to do something similar to the Democratic Party, where he's going to make it a more hostile environment for people who support those kinds of policies. | ||
| Is RFK a populist? | ||
| I don't know if I'd go that far, but I think there is something to be said for him being a little bit more in that direction than anyone else in the Democratic Party. | ||
| How would you define populist? | ||
| Is he on the level of Trump? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But yeah, it's an interesting question. | ||
| How do you define populist? | ||
| Isn't a populist someone who listens to the people as opposed to trying to do top-down strategy and top-down policy approaches? | ||
| someone who wants to do what the people want to do. | ||
| Well, you know, every political leader claims that, but I would argue that populism is probably | ||
| more of a strategy than anything else. It's trying to appeal to people. It's pointing to the elite | ||
| and saying these people who have pretended to care about you are actually only out for themselves, | ||
| or they're incompetent and they're not actually going to be able to save you. And so you need | ||
| to select somebody like me, who is a man of the people who will fight for you, basically. | ||
| I can't tell with Robert F. Kennedy if he's a populist or not, because he's in with all those | ||
| Maybe not all those people, I don't know how tight he is with Biden and Obama, but he's a Kennedy. | ||
| So he was raised in that world and he knows all those people. | ||
| I wonder if he'd release, finally, the redacted report on the Kennedy assassination. | ||
| You know how Trump didn't release it? | ||
| Biden, Clinton, whatever his name is. | ||
| Biden didn't release it. | ||
| Would RFK release it? | ||
| Yeah, it's an interesting question. | ||
| In the JFK, you know, conspiracy theory is actually probably the most popular one that we have any polling data on. | ||
| At one point, 90% of the American public believed some kind of conspiracy was at play. | ||
| In fact, the United States House Select Committee on Assassinations, which was formed in The 1970s, 1976 I believe, ended up saying that there was some kind of conspiracy. | ||
| They didn't say it was the CIA or the Russians or anything like that, but it's interesting because in contrast to the Warren Report, which is the government document that says there was no conspiracy, we actually have another document produced by the United States government which says there was some kind of conspiracy. | ||
| Even though they don't name names, even though they don't say this is who we think did it, they do say there was probably something at play that people aren't being informed of. | ||
| It's so funny to officially say there was no conspiracy, because like, how do you know? | ||
| You can't know everything. | ||
| We reviewed ourselves and we say we did everything right. | ||
| Don't ask any more questions. | ||
| Well, one thing that I think RFK really did effectively here is he pushed back against the media and he actually demanded an apology. | ||
| So that's the kind of energy that we see. | ||
| I think that was positive. | ||
| And that's the energy we need to see from more candidates. | ||
| So I appreciate that. | ||
| And I think that more Democrats who are positioning themselves against the establishment, or maybe to put it this way, who the establishment is positioning itself against, need to take that attitude. | ||
| Don't bend the knee to these people. | ||
| Obviously I'm on the right, obviously I'm gonna vote Republican, but whenever an anti-establishment candidate rises up in a party and ends up pushing them away from the kind of big government, welfare, warfare, state status quo, I'm happy about that. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| I find that I want to hear a Democrat criticize RFK without conspiracy theorists in their world. | ||
| Like, what specifically are you mad at him about? | ||
| Use a policy. | ||
| But that is what they're mad at him about. | ||
| That's all they have, though. | ||
| That's what I find so fascinating. | ||
| They aren't able to use any evidence. | ||
| They're not able to attack his platform. | ||
| They just have to go for these, like, very racially charged, you know, But that's their whole playbook, right? | ||
| They set somebody up, they say that they're a problem with their racial views or what have you, and that's what they do, and that's how they take people down. | ||
| You can even see that with their attacks on Ron DeSantis, right? | ||
| You have Joy Reid coming out and all of these others saying that Ron DeSantis is more dangerous than Trump, that he's more racist, more LGBT anti or whatever than Trump, all of this kind of stuff. | ||
| So whoever it is that is a threat to the establishment power is going to be attacked with the exact same insults and the exact same smears. | ||
| And what I think is really fascinating, I keep looking, so I grew up relatively liberal, right, in Massachusetts. | ||
| Catholic, so I was pro-life, but used to be able to be pro-life and liberal and pro-labor and pro-life and liberal. | ||
| That was like There is still a collection of pro-life Democrats. | ||
| They just are like, why did you leave us behind? | ||
| What happened? | ||
| What happened? | ||
| But so when you, there were all of these things like question authority, right? | ||
| Speak truth to power. | ||
| All of these very standard things that Democrats and leftists would say. | ||
| And now they refuse to realize that they are the establishment. | ||
| They are the ones in power. | ||
| These are the views that are You know, taking charge that are shaping the country and they still act like they are oppressed. | ||
| You have Joe Biden going out there like saying basically that the LGBT community is oppressed, but their flag was at the White House, bigger than the American flags. | ||
| You know, he goes out and speaks more about transitioning kids than he does about what people actually need in this country. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And speaking of transitioning kids, Gays Against Groomers recently did a sting operation where they had somebody pretending to be a 14-year-old girl, claiming to be trans, call Planned Parenthood, who then referred her to a community healthcare network for help, and they proceeded to tell her that they would give her information on obtaining certain Treatments, despite her being underage, she said, I don't want my parents to find out about this. | ||
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We will play some... Do you guys remember being 14? | |
| Yeah, vaguely. | ||
| You didn't want your parents to find out about anything, that you thought about anything. | ||
| Please knock. | ||
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Yes. | |
| You better knock or you might see me fill in a blank. | ||
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Oh boy, oh boy. | |
| And then they started knocking. | ||
| We have this moment here from, again, the footage that Gays Against Groomers has posted to Twitter, where the person impersonating a 14-year-old tells the people at the organization that Planned Parenthood referred her to that she is a minor, that she doesn't want her parents to find out, and this is what they say. | ||
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Okay, just give me one moment. | |
| Finding anything? | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| And you're sure my mom won't find out? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Code Cindy is when, um, we have to put labels on your chart. | ||
| So as soon as I make this chart, it's going to be contact by phone only. | ||
| And then it's just going to be the number you give me. | ||
| I'm going to put no mail for your address and then that's it. | ||
| If anyone ever calls for you, um, we can't disclose any information if it's not you. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Cause I'm, I'm underage. | ||
| Yeah, understood. | ||
| But we help underage patients receive care that they need and want as long as, you know, it's not harmful to oneself. | ||
| We try to help you out the best we can. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I'm so nervous. | ||
| My palms are sweating. | ||
| I got you. | ||
| But the only thing is right now I'm already at the end of August looking and I'm not getting any appointments. | ||
| Alright so you guys get the picture here basically this person's underage they're saying they don't want their parents to know about the treatment that they're seeking out and this person is saying don't worry we won't tell them it's a code Cindy. | ||
| Now I want to point something out because I'm sure a lot of apologists for Planned Parenthood are going to make the claim That this wasn't Planned Parenthood saying that she should do this, they were just referring her. | ||
| Which is kind of an interesting point, because Planned Parenthood has claimed for decades that they perform mammograms and give women mammograms, when they actually don't have a single mammogram on site at any of their clinics, they just refer women to clinics where they can get them. | ||
| But of course we know they're going to embrace that double standard and say, No, we weren't actually providing any of this care. | ||
| We were just telling this person where we could get or where they could get it. | ||
| That said, maybe they bite the bullet and they say this is affirming care. | ||
| They absolutely needed it. | ||
| It's abusive and horrible not to give it to them. | ||
| I also wonder if this organization that she was referred to is going to say, oh, well, when we said we wanted to give her medical care, We're just talking about, like, medical care that's necessary for her life, which is a dodge that they usually use in order to not acknowledge that they're giving these children hormones that stunt their development to groom them on a path towards mutilation. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, the Planned Parenthood, at the beginning of the recording, refers this person, who's obviously an adult, posing as a 14-year-old, to the Community Healthcare Network. | ||
| The Community Healthcare Network, when This person asks, like, I need help. | ||
| He's like, what do you want specifically? | ||
| Like, I just want help. | ||
| I want, you know, help. | ||
| And he's the operator specifically brings up hormone therapy. | ||
| So they are all aware of what a minor who identifies as transgender may possibly be seeking out or they're aware of what specifically to offer. | ||
| They do mention mental health care as one of the services they provide. | ||
| They also mention medical intervention in the form of hormones. | ||
| And I find it interesting that we would have anyone trying to deny this, right? | ||
| Like, why, when you have this kind of recording, wouldn't you just double down on, like, well, we're supposed to be doing this? | ||
| Like, this is where this kind of logic falls apart to me. | ||
| Well, that's what happens, right? | ||
| First they say, we're not doing it. | ||
| Then they say, we are doing it, and it's good. | ||
| A similar thing happened when Libs of TikTok called, I forget what the name of the hospital was, but it was a children's hospital. | ||
| This was last summer in Washington DC. | ||
| Boston was the first thing and that whole thing was very interesting because we did some, Post Millennial did some reporting about what was going on at Boston Children's Hospital. | ||
| We had the intake forms, we had the forms that said vaginoplasty would be performed on young men at the age of 17. | ||
| We had these on The actual documentation from Boston Children's Hospital, the one for young women to have phalloplasties, right, was at 18. | ||
| However, you could get it at 18, which means that there was prep prior to that, probably. | ||
| Exactly, before you could consent. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so what was interesting about that was LibSivTikTok posted that Boston Children's Hospital was doing hysterectomies on minors. | ||
| And that's what everyone got slammed for, was that she was saying that. | ||
| We don't have evidence that they weren't necessarily doing that. | ||
| We only have their word, but they also scrubbed their site. | ||
| Anyway, so after that, Lips of TikTok, Chaya, she called the Washington Children's Hospital. | ||
| She posed Very, very obviously and transparently, actually, if I remember correctly, as a mom seeking to get, you know, sex change for her underage child. | ||
| And she had a similar experience. | ||
| She ended up reaching, essentially, the phone answering person who said, yes, we do that. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Who said, like, yes, we can take care of that. | ||
| We could do, I believe it was a double mastectomy kind of stuff like that. | ||
| And now we have another situation like that. | ||
| And again, this will come out where they're going to say that this is a good thing to do. | ||
| Yeah, I think so. | ||
| Because gender drugs are life-saving. | ||
| And it's a manipulation of language. | ||
| We had a mom actually pose, this was like a year or so ago, getting involved with the Trevor Project, posing as a 15-year-old. | ||
| with gender dysphoria. | ||
| And the same thing happened. | ||
| The mom was, as being posing as this 15-year-old girl, the mom was referred to all of these services to get more gender medical services. | ||
| And when she tried to, at another instance, when she tried to get information on detransitioning, The Trevor Project was decidedly unhelpful and said things like, are you sure that you want to detransition? | ||
| This sounds like internalized transphobia. | ||
| Yep, that's exactly right. | ||
| So a person can't be, like, groomed into becoming trans. | ||
| There's no social contagion there, even though even WPATH admits there is. | ||
| But when somebody detransitions, that's because the people around them have manipulated them psychologically. | ||
| They've been groomed into not wanting to be trans, basically. | ||
| I think it's interesting with this call, too. | ||
| One of the first things I noticed, to me, it did not sound like a 14-year-old. | ||
| It sounded like a South Park character. | ||
| When have you ever heard a 14-year-old talk about how their palms are sweaty? | ||
| Yeah, she was like, I'm underage. | ||
| You don't say that when you're 14. | ||
| Well, my favorite was like, can you spell your email? | ||
| And this person goes like, Emma's in Mary, da-da-da-da-da. | ||
| Like, if you're 14, you're not doing that because you've never had to deal with that many calls. | ||
| You just keep saying M waiting for somebody to understand what you're saying. | ||
| I think what I noticed about that call is that the guy on the other end of the line was like, as long as it's not harmful to the person. | ||
| And there's this, I guess the divergence of the entire global conversation on this is, are the chemicals harmful for 14 year olds or younger or whatever, or are they not? | ||
| And I think that's part of the problem is that the information is not clearly presented. | ||
| The risks are not included. | ||
| And this is true for a lot of prescription medication in the US. | ||
| But I had someone in my personal life recently tell me, oh, well, top surgery and mastectomies are not the same thing. | ||
| And I'd be like, what are you talking about? | ||
| That's exactly the same thing. | ||
| What do you think they're doing? | ||
| And they're like, no, no, no, mastectomy is different. | ||
| And I was like, what do you think is happening in top surgery? | ||
| So what did they say? | ||
| They couldn't explain it. | ||
| They said you leave part of the breast No, you don't. | ||
| Sometimes it gets botched and you have weird flaps and things. | ||
| I've seen this. | ||
| There's different kinds of ways to perform this surgery. | ||
| There's that gender surgeon in Miami who does it. | ||
| Yeeting the teats. | ||
| She loves to laugh about the fact that she's mutilating children. | ||
| I actually had a TikTok video about how she was only yeeting four teats. | ||
| And so she was sad about it. | ||
| One week. | ||
| Poses with these minors. | ||
| But that doctor has had a number of complications from patients because of the type, the way that she does it where there's, what is it, no drainage. | ||
| And so people end up, young women have ended up with rotting flesh on their bodies and had to go to hospitals. | ||
| And hospitals are like, you're going to die. | ||
| Your flesh is rotting. | ||
| I think that's the problem. | ||
| I understand that there is an argument for you have to be conscious of someone's emotional state and we're trying to be compassionate and open-minded and whatever else, and I understand that that's where certain positions on these issues come from, but I think ultimately, if you just go back and say, well, what are the consequences of taking high doses of estrogen, of testosterone, of removing tissue that's naturally occurring in your body, of disrupting the parts of your body that regulate your hormones? | ||
| There is no way that there are not costs and consequences. | ||
| And I think we can all agree in this room that under the age of 18, you are not in a position to make a fully informed decision. | ||
| And I think part of the problem is that over 18, the information is still not presented. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Ethically and clearly. | ||
| Well, exactly. | ||
| And that's a very important point. | ||
| There's a lot we can say about these surgical interventions. | ||
| There's a lot we can say about these hormones. | ||
| but I really want to flag what you're saying about someone choosing to do this after they're | ||
| over the age of 18 when they have been told throughout their entire adolescence that this | ||
| is something they should be doing. | ||
| We recognize that groomers don't always get physical when the person is underage. | ||
| Sometimes what happens is a groomer meets somebody who is underage and then they groom | ||
| them into placing themselves in that role so that when they're 18 they can get together | ||
| with them. | ||
| If you have a 40-year-old man who knew a girl when she was 14 and 15 and was talking to | ||
| her and then as soon as she turned 18 they started dating, we would recognize that that | ||
| was grooming even though she was technically legally of age because we know that if a groomer | ||
| gets to someone when they're young and more vulnerable, they can try to brainwash them. | ||
| And so it's a similar phenomenon. | ||
| If you put a child on these hormones, There are! | ||
| even if you're waiting until they're 18 to actually perform the surgical interventions, | ||
| you've already warped their mind in the direction of embracing that intervention to the point where | ||
| you couldn't say they've actually consented. Even if you did consent to something like that, | ||
| it would be wrong because healthy body parts are not meant to be removed, | ||
| emulated, but even so, you can't make the argument that it's not grooming just because they waited | ||
| until the person was over the age of 18 to intervene surgically because groomers wait | ||
| until the person they're preying upon is over 18. | ||
| I disagree with you when it comes to relationships and things like that. | ||
| I mean, if a man is 40 and he has a relationship with an 18-year-old girl, But if he knew her when he was 15 and he's planting seeds at like when she was 15 I'm saying yeah we recognize universally that that's grooming. | ||
| Yeah I mean I think that we see stuff like that throughout history um you know but I don't I don't think that you can make those kind of You kind of have to meet people where they stand, right? | ||
| I mean, relationships are weird. | ||
| People have weird relationships all the time. | ||
| Yeah, but a grown man knowing someone when she's underage and then dating her when she's 18 is totally grueling. | ||
| Sure, like, I mean, my, you know, in my family I've seen relationships where the man is 31 and the woman is 20 and they get together. | ||
| That's different, that's an age gap, but that's not, they knew each other when she was like a minor and young and vulnerable, and then as soon as she turns 18 they're together. | ||
| What you're picking up on is if someone saw a 14-year-old and thought, on some level, | ||
| I'm conscious this person is not of legal consenting age, so I'm going to continue to | ||
| build what could ultimately translate into an intimate relationship and the conversations | ||
| that happened beforehand, like, while there may not be any physical contact, it's not | ||
| something that you would necessarily want a 14-year-old to do. | ||
| It's not something that you would necessarily want, but I don't think we can illegalize | ||
| gender transition or sex changes for people who are of age, and I don't think that we | ||
| can similarly illegalize or make illegal, is the correct terminology, relationships | ||
| like that. | ||
| Like, if somebody is 18, if somebody is of age, somebody is of age, we have to have cut-off | ||
| somewhere. | ||
| And I think what you're talking about, too, is a separate issue, which is the decline | ||
| of values, the decline of morality, and the decline of a valuing of childhood innocence, | ||
| But the difference between morality and values and what is legally acceptable. | ||
| And I think we do have to make that distinction. | ||
| There have been people who have detransitioned that I've spoken to who underwent gender transition sex changes as adults who fully regret having been castrated. | ||
| They underwent that surgery in their 20s. | ||
| There was nothing to stop them legally from doing that. | ||
| They are advocating for there to be more information about this for adults as well, and I think that that's fully valid and there should be a lot more information about that. | ||
| Because I think that can't make it illegal. | ||
| No, I think you can. | ||
| I think you can and should. | ||
| I think that's the biggest issue is that we use all of our scientific data, and I think conservatives can be guilty of this too, in a way that benefits us rather than being like, here are the pros and cons, here are the risks. | ||
| If you as a kid were around someone who was very open to you potentially transitioning when you're 18, I would hope that you were just as informed of the lifelong consequences of your decisions and the surgical or medical intervention all along. | ||
| Like, if you are never given a full picture of what you're about to commit yourself to, then it's very hard to know whether that's And I think that's a huge problem. | ||
| People don't get accurate information and the accurate information is just not available in a lot of cases. | ||
| And I think in this case it's done on purpose to then encourage people to make these choices. | ||
| They're saying that ultimately these things will make you happy when we know that that doesn't bear out and we know that there are consequences all along. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, kind of from a wider view, just beyond, like, transitioning and sexual stuff, like, grooming in general isn't necessarily... it's neutral. | ||
| Like, you groom someone to become something. | ||
| And whether you could groom them to become some healthy adult, a parent grooms their child to become a successful parent, like, that's a form... in the military, you're groomed to become a soldier. | ||
| Like, these are... you're preparing them to become something. | ||
| So if you're grooming them for sex of a minor, that's where it is. | ||
| It's not that... the word isn't... | ||
| So you gotta... That's why I kind of like calling someone a groomer is like, yeah, it's kind of vague. | ||
| Like, are you grooming them to be an amazing human? | ||
| Then you've done your job as a parent. | ||
| But we know what we're using it for in this context, right? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, there's a difference between like, this person is being groomed for the promotion versus like, we're grooming a child. | ||
| A 40-year-old grooms a 16-year-old girl, and then when she's 18, they may be talking, and then when she's 18, they get married, and they have a happy, loving family. | ||
| That's extremely creepy. | ||
| No, if she's underage, and this guy's in his 40s, and he's talking to her, and they end up getting married, that's clearly grooming. | ||
| She's underage, she's vulnerable, she's not in a position where she can make those kinds of decisions. | ||
| It is grooming, but it's not illegal, and it's not necessarily immoral. | ||
| If she's having sex with her when she's under 18, it's immoral, I think. | ||
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| That's illegal. | ||
| Yeah, that's definitely not okay. | ||
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Child porn. | |
| So I think it's that thing where, like, people have trouble finding out where the line is, especially when it comes to intimate communication with a minor. | ||
| And I don't know that we would solve it here in one night. | ||
| For me, the biggest issue is, like, if you don't give- like, if a 16-year-old girl doesn't know, like, Hey, if this is making you uncomfortable, you can say no, even if this person is a family friend, even if you feel like you're obligated. | ||
| Like, if there is not awareness of how to set boundaries, then you have all kinds of problems. | ||
| Which is an issue of the breakdown of families, you know, the lack of real parenting. | ||
| I think that's an issue. | ||
| I got yelled at on Twitter the other day because I called a teacher a groomer who was telling a 10-year-old to delete an email discussing Um, gender identity stuff. | ||
| And the teacher was like, delete this email so your parents don't see it. | ||
| And I was like, this is what a groomer looks like. | ||
| And everyone was like, that's not a groomer. | ||
| No, groomers ask you to keep secrets from your parents. | ||
| Exactly, exactly. | ||
| And that's a huge part of it. | ||
| And I think that's true in all of the circumstances I mentioned. | ||
| And I think you can ban it. | ||
| I think you can have laws against it. | ||
| And I would. | ||
| And I also, I don't like the idea that, you know, it's okay for someone to have this surgery You know, the day they turn 18, but the day before they turn 18 when they're 17, this surgery's awful. | ||
| It's awful either way. | ||
| You shouldn't be removing healthy functioning parts of someone's body. | ||
| It totally negates the purpose of medicine. | ||
| I'm not in favor of it. | ||
| I just, I do think that, um, I do think that at a certain point we have to let adults make stupid decisions. | ||
| But an adult making a decision to prey upon a vulnerable minor is not a decision we should allow an adult to make. | ||
| No, that's a different thing. | ||
| And so if someone's a minor and they're talking to an adult, and as soon as they turn 18 they're together, that's an instance of grooming. | ||
| There was also this weird thing. | ||
| Did you see, remember that show, the Jazz Jennings reality show? | ||
| I am Jazz. | ||
| I never saw it, but I'm familiar. | ||
| So we had a reporter looking into it last year, and she found that Jazz's father was saying, no, you can't get a tattoo because it's too permanent. | ||
| And then in the next scene, they were talking about cutting Jazz's dick off. | ||
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That cognitive dissonance is wild. | |
| This culture of people that hate themselves or that are sad to be what they are is terrifying. | ||
| I don't know where or why. | ||
| Is it from video games and people being stuck on the internet and thinking they're just not in touch with their body because they're on the machine? | ||
| I think it's the culture of social media that tells you you're supposed to be seeking affirmation all the time from the outside world, right? | ||
| I think that's a big thing. | ||
| I mean, if you think about what are pronouns, if not saying what you think of me matters more than what I think of myself or what reality is, there's this constant effort to get other people to view you in a certain way to give you justification and satisfaction. | ||
| And I remember growing up with the idea That it really didn't matter what other people thought. | ||
| And so, you know, expressing yourself sort of in a punk rock way or whatever had more to do with saying, I don't care if you think I am ugly now. | ||
| And now it's very much like if you express yourself the way you want to and then people don't celebrate it then. | ||
| Because now you're supposed to say, I made myself look ugly, but you have to tell me I'm beautiful. | ||
| That's weird. | ||
| It feels like the crowd is grooming the social media influencer. | ||
| The influencer makes the post and then all the comments, if they're reading those comments, those comments are grooming them to become what the commenters want. | ||
| Isn't that what it was? | ||
| It was Tumblr. | ||
| Tumblr was a huge place for early gender transition conversations. | ||
| Helena Kirshner talked about that. | ||
| Yeah, that was a huge deal. | ||
| And I think we still see stuff like that, whether it's on platforms that I certainly am not I'm not savvy in, like, Snapchat and TikTok, Discord, whatever the other ones are. | ||
| I've got this feeling that Shane's about to blast us over to a new story, are you? | ||
| No, yeah, well, I mean, it's relevant, but basically, in light of all of these things you guys are bringing up about the fact that this is externally imposed, the culture tries to send messages to people, we have former President Barack Obama. | ||
| Michelle's husband? | ||
| Oh, no, this is, yeah, former President Barack Obama. | ||
| I've always wondered what he's up to. | ||
| He could be the first first man. | ||
| I will say while you set up that story, I'm going to say the cognitive dissonance is so real. | ||
| It's the same thing that bothers me when you say like, hey, I don't think someone under the age of 18 should be at a drag show. | ||
| Someone can be like, that's life or death. | ||
| How could you say that? | ||
| But they're okay with the idea that you wouldn't let an 18-year-old heterosexual boy go to a strip club, or a 17-year-old, you know, underage boy who's straight go to a strip club. | ||
| Like, under some circumstances, we allow these things, but not under others. | ||
| There's not an idea that, like, we're all in this to protect children. | ||
| It seems so strange to me. | ||
| It is strange. | ||
| And that's like State Senator Scott Weiner in California pushed through a bill that decriminalized sex with minors if they were gay. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Saying that, you know, sex with minors, if you were heterosexual, whatever that age gap was, was legal. | ||
| And I'm thinking, like, why didn't you illegalize the sex with minors instead of legalizing? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| It's totally bizarre to me because you're telling me that You know, children who are LGBTQ identifying are more vulnerable for, you know, depression, for anxiety, for all kinds of things. | ||
| Studies bear out that most of the time they are sexually active at a younger age, but yet... There's also a lot of abuse, I think. | ||
| There's tons of abuse. | ||
| They're vulnerable in all sorts of ways, but yet, when you can take steps to protect them, you're saying, actually, no, they need to be exposed to these things. | ||
| Like, how can you not see that that is bizarre, especially since you wouldn't treat straight children that way? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, we've got the story queued up now. | ||
| Apologies. | ||
| But in an open letter to librarians, former President Barack Obama spoke out against the, quote, profoundly misguided book bans in school libraries. | ||
| So the former president wrote an open letter to American librarians, and he appears in a TikTok video decrying right-wing censorship push. | ||
| Now, I've mentioned this before, all of the rhetoric you're hearing about right-wing censorship in book bans is basically the left complaining about the fact that conservative parents have said that pornographic material cannot and should not be shown to children in public schools. | ||
| And by the way, even the articles that claim to be sympathetic to this position, that these are book bans, acknowledge that this is a movement which is being led by parents. | ||
| Parents are the ones saying, do not show this content to my children. | ||
| It is not right-wing special interest groups saying, if you show this book to children it will expand their minds and it will reduce our control over the hegemonic narrative. | ||
| It is literally parents saying, don't show porn to our children in the books that they are defending. | ||
| are pornographic and have pornographic content in them. | ||
| So, uh, in the letter, Barack Obama called it, uh, profoundly misguided. | ||
| He said that books, including controversial books, shaped his life. | ||
| Barack, I hope these kinds of books are not the ones that shaped your life. | ||
| He said it's no coincidence that these banned books are often written by or feature people of color, indigenous people, and members of the LGBTQ community. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Is he alleging that there are books being banned because there are indigenous or black people in them? | ||
| It's the most ridiculous thing I've heard in my life. | ||
| That's exactly what he's alleging. | ||
| He's alleging, but this part here is operative, right? | ||
| This is the key. | ||
| The LGBTQ plus community. | ||
| I agree, Brock. | ||
| It is kind of a weird coincidence that all of the books that are being banned because they have pornographic content in them are being supported by the LGBT community and your party. | ||
| Maybe don't own that so loudly. | ||
| What do you guys think? I think one thing that's interesting is a lot of these books and I've spoken to Moms | ||
| for Liberty about this And about the different books and different moms who are | ||
| like, you know, we don't want genderqueer. We don't want flamer We don't want a lot of these books | ||
| a lot of them are actually graphic novels and I wonder if it would be | ||
| If anyone would even notice if they were not graphic novels because that's where you see this you see, you know | ||
| lesbians fellating a strap on in genderqueer, and that's certainly not | ||
| something that you would want in schools. | ||
| And I think a lot of what is being missed is that it's not that people are asking for | ||
| books to be banned, they're asking for age-appropriate material to be made available to students. | ||
| You know, genderqueer has no business being taught. | ||
| When I bought this book myself, we have it here on the table, I bought this book myself | ||
| to check it out and to see what it was really about. | ||
| And even worse than some of the images, what I thought was the most shocking was that the | ||
| main character, who had been raised in a very weird, situation grows up to decide to be non-binary, and the book ends right as she is deciding to come out to a middle school class. | ||
| And I'm thinking that's even more insidious. | ||
| Why do people feel the need to... Why do teachers feel the need to express their personal sexual preferences, orientations, and, you know, gender expression to their students? | ||
| I find that so bizarre. | ||
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| You know, I remember some of my teachers were married, but I don't remember anything about them. | ||
| I had one fourth grade teacher who brought us all over to her house, Mrs. Fife, and I remember even thinking at the time, like, this is weird. | ||
| Why are we at Mrs. Fife's house? | ||
| This is very bizarre. | ||
| I want to return to the time where, like, when you saw your teacher in the grocery store, you were like, you exist outside school? | ||
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| What is happening here? | ||
| And it's not because they're not human and have their own lives and can do whatever. | ||
| It's just because that's the setting in which children know them. | ||
| Like, I want them to feel like there is a certain relationship in school, and I don't like the idea that you would blur the lines for your own emotional gratification, right? | ||
| The other thing, too, is... Oh, I'm sorry. | ||
| Oh, I was just gonna say, like, The Pope had this interesting comment on people having dogs, and I'm going to misquote it, and I know there are Catholics in the room. | ||
| Instead of children? | ||
| Yeah, Pope Francis said this. | ||
| This is one of his base quotes. | ||
| One of the reasons you like people have dogs is because there's less emotional work in this relationship than having children. | ||
| And I think there is something similar that's happening here, where it's like, I specifically want children to be like, wow, we love you anyway, whoever you are. | ||
| Because children are innocent, and when you feel like you have gotten gratification from them, you know, there is some sort of secure, trapped audience effect there. | ||
| And I think that should be something we don't encourage. | ||
| Also, these are teachers who never properly grew up. | ||
| That's a huge part of it. | ||
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| When I was a kid, which wasn't that long ago, but when I was a kid, you didn't even know your teacher's first name. | ||
| The idea that your teacher is telling you about all the perverse sexual things they're doing behind the scenes is totally insane, but we know why it's happening, right? | ||
| This is grooming. | ||
| They want children to be exposed to their perverse lifestyle choices because grooming is essentially a kind of perverse exposure therapy. | ||
| People intuitively recoil at perversion and degeneracy. | ||
| So if you keep putting it in front of the child, the idea is you will slowly chip away at their intuitive sense that this is wrong. | ||
| That's a huge deal too, like when you take a kid to drag story hour, right? | ||
| Like if you do that, there are kids you can see in videos of this who recoil and the moms are like, and it's always moms, The moms are like, no honey, go ahead, that's totally fine, that's totally fine. | ||
| Or the Washington Post article by a mom who was saying that she was taking her kid to the pride parade and wanted the kid to see kink and to normalize kink. | ||
| Or the sex ed classes that emphasize pleasure in second grade and start teaching kids about masturbation. | ||
| There's no reason for a sex ed class in second grade, period. | ||
| But there's something more to this, too, which I also find a little disturbing, which is, and I'm just sort of expressing this for the first time, so if I screw it up, you know... You'll refine it later. | ||
| I'll refine it later. | ||
| But the idea is that if you're a kid, why do you want all of this stuff to come from authority figures? | ||
| You know, why are authority figures getting involved in what essentially should be a kid's private emotional life? | ||
| Do you know what I mean? | ||
| Like I had this professor in college, Danny Kaiser, and we were studying James Joyce and Marcel Proust in his class and the first day of class he said, I don't know why you guys want me to teach you Joyce. | ||
| When I was your age, Joyce was mine. | ||
| I didn't want anyone to teach it to me. | ||
| It was for me. | ||
| I wanted to learn about it myself. | ||
| And he said the same thing about folk music. | ||
| He was way older than us, obviously. | ||
| But I think to a certain extent, like, when I wanted to read weird books when I was in high school, which, you know, like, I was a weird, curious kid. | ||
| I read a lot of weird books. | ||
| I went and found them for myself. | ||
| I didn't want anyone to teach me Anything. | ||
| I didn't want anyone to teach me poetry. | ||
| I didn't really want people to teach me Kafka. | ||
| I wanted to read those things myself. | ||
| Do you know what I mean? | ||
| And so you have these people who are not just infiltrating the educational system and infiltrating that, but they're infiltrating the private thoughts of these kids who should be, if they're going to be thinking about these things, that should be their own private thoughts to a certain extent. | ||
| It shouldn't be involved with adults. | ||
| Or with their parents at the very least. | ||
| Or their, you know, talk to your parents for sure, but like, The infiltration of adults into children's private lives is really messed up. | ||
| This is something I also want to mention that came from one of the articles I was reading about this. | ||
| The ALA has found that in US public schools last year, a record 2,571 unique titles were targeted for censorship. | ||
| Often led by parent groups. | ||
| Oh no. | ||
| A 38% increase from the 1800 unique titles targeted for censorship in 2021. | ||
| Now they're saying that as if that's an indication that our laws are becoming more draconian. | ||
| We're trying to prevent kids from seeing this literature. | ||
| Firstly, this is happening. | ||
| This kind of pornographic content is being placed into public schools and public school libraries at a much higher rate than it was in the past. | ||
| So it makes sense that you'd be seeing more More people trying to remove them. | ||
| I think parents are also finally starting to wake up to this stuff being in the libraries at their kids schools or being taught in their classrooms. | ||
| So it makes sense that they'd stand up and say something. | ||
| But again, the article here acknowledges that this is led by parent groups who are saying stop Showing this stuff to our children and also this idea that there's such a thing as being too selective about what you're allowing your child to be exposed to when they're off at a school where you have no oversight over them through the course of the day other than the standards that you've gotten the school to agree to is total insanity. | ||
| It is a good ...thing that parents are becoming more concerned with what their kids are looking at in schools. | ||
| The fact that you try to frame that is something that- I see these numbers and I go, good, more parents are involved, more parents care about what their kids are reading. | ||
| In their ideal world, the parents sit back and say, show whatever you want to my kids! | ||
| I don't care! | ||
| Now, I happen to disagree with that, which is why I think the fact that 2,500 different titles are being pulled out of public schools and they're being told, you can't show these to our children, is good, because if parents don't want their kids seeing that stuff, then the kids shouldn't be looking at it. | ||
| Well, here's the other thing, though. | ||
| A lot of times it's really hard to get the curriculum. | ||
| I don't know if you guys are aware of this. | ||
| No. | ||
| I have tried to, you know, at the schools my son has gone to, not the Lutheran school that he went to for a while. | ||
| That was very easy. | ||
| But so much of the curriculum is not in books. | ||
| They don't send home textbooks. | ||
| If the kids do worksheets, the worksheets stay at school. | ||
| That's a huge thing. | ||
| So COVID really opened people's minds to this. | ||
| That's where I started to really see what was going on at the school in terms of like | ||
| weird racial education and whatever else. | ||
| So that is, I think, one of the biggest upsides of the pandemic. | ||
| That's where Moms for Liberty came in. | ||
| They were like, vaccine mandates. | ||
| No. | ||
| Masking? | ||
| No. | ||
| Wait, and all these books? | ||
| All of this stuff that you guys are looking at? | ||
| All of this curriculum? | ||
| No. | ||
| And there was even a situation where I think it was in Chico, California. | ||
| Was it the Chico School District? | ||
| Anyway, it's been on my list. | ||
| I haven't been able to write about it. | ||
| I've wanted to for a couple of days. | ||
| Anyway, a parent was, a mom was denied the ability to look at the curriculum of the school, was told outright that she couldn't see it. | ||
| And a lot of school districts, what they do is they say that the material is copyrighted, so they can't send it home. | ||
| And they keep the stuff from the parents. | ||
| So the more they keep the stuff from the parents, the more angry parents are going to get. | ||
| I was at Moms for Liberty, the summit in Philadelphia, a couple of weeks ago, and when I was talking | ||
| to the moms about what was going on, they were really insistent, you know, that they | ||
| wanted to see what was going on in the schools and they wanted to be a part of it. | ||
| I will just say, though, did you guys see what Barack Obama's half-brother said about | ||
| the list that he put out? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He deleted the tweet, but he said, this man is definitely gay. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| About Barack? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Dude, Barack. | ||
| He trolls him a lot. | ||
| You got to eat more green vegetables, man. | ||
| You're like a health guru now. | ||
| Ian's a dietary expert, uh, ever since he started bulking up for this music video. | ||
| But I'm not against it. | ||
| I'm not against it. | ||
| All of your comments just make me return to the refrain, only groomers ask you to keep things from your parents. | ||
| Exactly, exactly. | ||
| Like it is weird to me that their position would be Well, don't talk. | ||
| We can't show you. | ||
| There shouldn't be secrets between parents and children. | ||
| Obviously, over time, children develop independence and things like that, but the school shouldn't be able to be like, no, you're not allowed. | ||
| It's just for me and your kids to look at. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And that is what they do. | ||
| And not only do groomers... You really can't get it. | ||
| You really cannot get this material. | ||
| You can ask. | ||
| You can go to the school. | ||
| You can say, give me the material. | ||
| You can say, can I see the textbooks? | ||
| Can I see what's going on? | ||
| It is very difficult to get it. | ||
| They say, it's in the Google Classroom. | ||
| And then you try and log into the Google Classroom and the password doesn't work. | ||
| And they make you go get one just for adults. | ||
| And then that doesn't have all the information. | ||
| You can't see it. | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| Yeah, well, not only do groomers want kids to keep things from their parents, they also want to keep certain films from theaters. | ||
| You guys know where this is going. | ||
| We had the privilege of speaking to Tim Ballard last week. | ||
| It was an excellent show. | ||
| I would recommend everybody check that one out if you haven't seen it yet. | ||
| But a former spokesman for a pro-pedophile advocacy group writes in Bloomberg a hit piece that was targeting the film Sound of freedom. | ||
| Now, he made a number of arguments about how he thought that this is a QAnon dog whistle that doesn't help victims. | ||
| A lot of the same rhetoric we've been hearing from the left. | ||
| He was arguing that it doesn't thoroughly address the reality of child trafficking and the way it presents is misleading. | ||
| He said most of them are 15 to 17 rather than young children. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| The film doesn't purport to be telling you the story of every single person who's been trafficked, but also, they're all minors. | ||
| Every child being trafficked is a minor. | ||
| For him to play this, oh, well, like, 15, 16, 17, oh, so maybe people shouldn't be so concerned about it. | ||
| Well, he's making it sound like it's little kids. | ||
| Well, oftentimes, it is little kids, and either way, it's disgusting, because people are abusing children. | ||
| They're abusing minors. | ||
| He also mentions that in 41% of cases of family members involved, that's perfectly fine to point out. | ||
| But again, this film is about global child trafficking rings. | ||
| It's a different story. | ||
| It doesn't claim to be representative of every single instance of abuse that occurs. | ||
| Now, part of what's very interesting about this particular story is he's a former spokesman for an organization which tries to legitimize Pedophilia basically by insisting that pedophiles be referred to as MAPs or Minor Attracted Persons. | ||
| This is a phrase that he has argued that people should be using. | ||
| So I will open it up to all of you and get your opinion. | ||
| Yeah, there's even a support group by Prostasia for people over the age of 13 to discuss their pedophiliac tendencies. | ||
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| Yes. | ||
| Huh. | ||
| That doesn't seem creepy at all. | ||
| No, not at all. | ||
| Super creepy. | ||
| This always kind of gets me. | ||
| How do we prevent child sex with minor pedophilia? | ||
| How do we prevent it? | ||
| Very harsh penalties. | ||
| Well, you can either just try and destroy the pedophiles, but then it's like they can still be created. | ||
| Like a person can still become one. | ||
| How do you stop them from becoming one? | ||
| Maybe you need to listen to pedophiles tell their story from prison or wherever, | ||
| but just so you understand how they got to where they were, how were they abused, why did you feel that way? | ||
| Because if someone can identify with them, be like, I feel that too, so I won't go down that road. | ||
| Jordan Peterson talked for, I remember hearing a podcast of his | ||
| where he was talking about children who had been abused as kids, they were abused, | ||
| and they had been worried that they were gonna grow up and become parents and abuse their own kids. | ||
| And you don't have to, right? | ||
| And what he was saying is you don't have to do that. | ||
| That he had spoken to more people who had grown up after having suffered child abuse themselves. | ||
| grown up and said there's no way I'm doing that and they don't do it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So it is possible even if you have been abused as a kid in this horrific and | ||
| horrible you know terrible way you don't have to grow up to live like that. | ||
| You can overcome it. | ||
| We overcome all kinds of horrible things all of the time. | ||
| Do you know what I mean? | ||
| So this organization, what it does is it talks about how this is an innate sort of thing, that you could be born with this condition, this predilection. | ||
| We overcome all kinds of things that we are born with, right? | ||
| Yeah, but I also, I mean, I totally reject the framing. | ||
| There's a lot of people who go along with, who become monogamous, regardless of, you know, we always hear like, oh, you know, monogamy is not natural. | ||
| We do it anyway. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We believe in it. | ||
| Even so, we don't have to reject the framing. | ||
| We have to reject the fact that it's not true. | ||
| I totally agree. | ||
| People are not born this way. | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| This is something that, you know, gay rights activist groups were trying to say for decades in order to normalize and legitimize homosexual behavior. | ||
| But this is what we have to recognize is that this narrative that they're born this way is only ever used to create sympathy for that group of people so that you're unwilling to speak out against the actions. | ||
| Oh, they can't help themselves. | ||
| Oh, this is their attraction. | ||
| Oh, they're going to do this? | ||
| No, they're not going to do this. | ||
| We don't have to accept this as an inevitability. | ||
| Anyone who harms a child needs to be penalized in the harshest possible legal way, and other people who are considering offending need to see that happen to them in order to deter them. | ||
| There are multiple levels to this. | ||
| I was having a conversation with Sean, the actual Justice Warrior, Sean Fitzgerald, very very bright guy. One thing he explains is that there are | ||
| basically three tiers to how you get a person to comply with the law or not break it. | ||
| And the first and most important one is that the person actually internalizes and believes | ||
| that that rule is good. That is the most effective way to stop someone from breaking a | ||
| rule. And you ideally want everyone to feel that way. But then a step below it, if a | ||
| person doesn't really feel like there's anything wrong with it, is for them to know | ||
| that their community, the people around them are extremely opposed to it, and that if they | ||
| do it and people find out they do it or ever found out they do it, they would be loathed | ||
| and detested and there'd be a great amount of shame. And then finally. | ||
| You have imprisonment. | ||
| Finally, you have legal penalties. | ||
| This is at the very bottom. | ||
| This is when those first two fail-safes break. | ||
| So the most important thing to do is to help everyone internalize to the strongest possible degree that this is totally unacceptable. | ||
| And then beneath that, you want to ensure that those social conventions are held up and promoted to a degree such that nobody who is ever spouting this They're born that way, rhetoric. | ||
| They can't help this rhetoric. | ||
| Any rhetoric that makes them sympathetic to them is not listened to, and then beneath that, if these people do offend anyway, you have to inflict the maximal, harshest possible legal penalty. | ||
| So we've eliminated shame in our society. | ||
| Yes, we have. | ||
| That's second tier. | ||
| Yeah, that's second tier. | ||
| We're not supposed to be ashamed of anything anymore. | ||
| We're supposed to go out into the street, parade ourselves around naked and kink-filled and whatever else, and have everybody acknowledge that as beautiful and spectacular. | ||
| It's a very weird situation where we've gotten rid of shame. | ||
| I've been saying for years now, like, bring back the taboo. | ||
| It's okay to have taboo. | ||
| I don't think we have entirely, though. | ||
| I think there is an argument that you should be able to do whatever, but I think there are people who then go out there and put it on naked and whatever else, and they're like, and if you don't cheer and celebrate me, I will think that you're shaming me in some way and that will hurt me. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, now they can't really get rid of it. | ||
| Now we are shamed for thinking the wrong thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, that's where the shame is. | ||
| It's totally shifted. | ||
| This is something I want everyone in the audience, everyone here to just pay very close attention to over the next couple years because there's something I've noticed that the left does basically every time they want to normalize something and we're seeing that occur with respect to pedophilia. | ||
| The argument that's always made is this behavior, which society widely rejects, is inevitable. | ||
| Some minority of people are going to do it anyway, so we have to ensure that we have a more empathetic approach to ensure that it's done safely or only done in small doses, or there's some way to accommodate these people so that we don't see all of the disastrous effects that occur. | ||
| Now, of course, that's not possible. | ||
| You have to stop people from doing it. | ||
| You can't mitigate the disastrous effects of something so disgusting through some means of employing an empathetic understanding of why the person did it, right? | ||
| You just have to put your foot down and say, no, we're not accepting this. | ||
| That said, that said, what the left always does and what they have done is once they | ||
| get people to say, okay, it's an inevitability, there's nothing we can do about it, what of | ||
| course happens is it becomes more socially accepted. | ||
| And once it's more socially accepted, you get more of it. | ||
| So the left-wing argument is constantly, we won't get any more of this thing if we normalize | ||
| it. | ||
| The people who are already going to do it will just keep doing it, but they'll do it | ||
| safely and there will be less harm. | ||
| That's not true. | ||
| It's never been true. | ||
| Every time they've ever made that claim, we've gotten more of the thing that they claim to | ||
| to be prevented if we just gave an outlet. | ||
| Well, we did that with sex, remember? | ||
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| Absolutely. | ||
| need a pressure valve to allow this behavior, do not listen to that argument. | ||
| Don't give them an inch because if you do, we're going to end up in a country where this | ||
| stuff is totally accepted by everyone and you lose your job for saying it's wrong. | ||
| Well, we did that with sex. | ||
| Remember, kids are going to, teens are going to have sex anyway. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Let's just make sure we give them birth control so that they can do it safely. | ||
| Or kids are just going to try drugs anyway, so let them try it at home with their parents. | ||
| Or kids are just gonna drink anyway, so they should just drink at home with their parents. | ||
| And all of these things have become super normalized. | ||
| I think though regarding a social pressure valve on pedophilia that it's something like | ||
| that, not that doing it is what relieves the pressure, but that understanding it. | ||
| Because if someone, if you're abused when you were little and you see now the adult | ||
| that abused you breaking down, sitting maybe in a prison cell or wherever, just losing | ||
| it, losing it, uncontrollably sobbing about how they were abused as a child and explaining | ||
| it and being honest about what they've done. | ||
| That might bring you some sense of relief. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| I think it's going to be more traumatic. | ||
| I just want to say one thing here. | ||
| Sometimes trauma can lead to relief. | ||
| I'm not totally against researching and talking to pedophiles from prison and saying, like, how did we get to where we are, right? | ||
| But I don't think that mitigates the fact that there have to be harsh punishments, right? | ||
| If your house caught on fire, you would want to know the cause. | ||
| If it was an electrical thing, you would want to know why so we could prevent it in the future. | ||
| And I understand that there's a desire to come to a place of compassion, but like, if you were abused and your abuser then cries in jail and says, I was abused, Are you then obligated to feel empathy for them when they did something bad to you? | ||
| What about rapists and murderers? | ||
| Should we normalize those things? | ||
| Because some people are... Some people who did it are sad, yeah. | ||
| Or some people who did that had a tough time. | ||
| Hold on, there's a point I really have to make here. | ||
| Which is that because I tried to say this before Hannah Clare was speaking, but I think the emphasis nowadays is put on us understanding why the criminal did this. | ||
| The emphasis should be on getting the criminal to understand why what they did was disgusting and should never be tolerated. | ||
| But I'm concerned with the child that was abused growing up to become an abuser, and how do we help the child? | ||
| Once you become an abuser, our only concern was how do we lock you away from everybody else and get you to stop? | ||
| And the thing is, we don't know how we can get people to stop doing it, so what we just have to do is lock them up away from everyone else so that they're not capable of doing it. | ||
| Finding some way to neutralize the threat. | ||
| I know you agree we should lock them up. | ||
| I do. | ||
| And I don't think it's impossible to understand why they're doing it. | ||
| I don't think that's impossible, but we need to not have shame about listening to it. | ||
| Well, I think we do understand why they do it. | ||
| I think they do it because they're twisted perverts who get a sexual thrill out of harming children. | ||
| We know why they do it. | ||
| A lot of times they're abused when they're little. | ||
| That's true, but I think, you know, people will say that to get empathy for them, but if someone did that to you as a child, and you pass that pain along to someone else, that makes it even worse. | ||
| How could you do that to somebody? | ||
| You know what that did to you! | ||
| Because what happens is, I think what happens is, it happens to you, so you're like, that was so horrible, no, no, no, I'm okay, I'm fine, whatever happened to me in my life is okay, I'm okay, and then you start to realize, like, all the things that happened to you are okay, so then you remember the abuse, and that's part of the okay thing, and then it's like, no, no, I'm okay, it's okay. | ||
| But it doesn't have to be that way, and there's a, you know, I mean, I think that part... | ||
| I think a lot of it has to do with the breakdown of morality as well, and this lack of understanding that there are appropriate ways to live. | ||
| It should not be a relativist society, and that's a relativist perspective. | ||
| Like, this thing happened to me, so I'm going to inflict this pain on someone else. | ||
| We see that with hazing, right, in colleges, and you see, like, I don't know. | ||
| I never was part of any fraternities. | ||
| And then that becomes a normal thing, and people do it. | ||
| It's still illegal. | ||
| People still die from hazing. | ||
| Even in relationships, when one person yells at the other person, then the other person feels like they're allowed now to yell back. | ||
| And it's like you've created a cycle, and at some point you've got to break that Exactly. | ||
| The way you break the cycle is by locking all of the people who do that up so they can't harm anybody else. | ||
| You just break up with the person? | ||
| I would actually say yes. | ||
| If you're in a relationship with somebody who yells at you, absolutely. | ||
| You think it's unrecoverable? | ||
| I wonder about that. | ||
| Yeah, if you're in a relationship... | ||
| You think they're unrecoverable? | ||
| If you're in a relationship with somebody who yells at you, absolutely. | ||
| You think it's unrecoverable? I wonder about that. | ||
| Breakup, I mean, there's a different question if you're married and have committed. | ||
| It's the same thing. | ||
| It's very different. | ||
| My point is, we still draw a line at some point and say, if we want this thing to stop, we have to stop it. | ||
| And if we want pedophilia to stop, we have to lock them up. | ||
| They have to know that they will receive the harshest possible penalty for their crime. | ||
| That will stop the pedophile, but it won't stop pedophilia. | ||
| But I think part of the argument is saying... I'm interested in stopping pedophiles. | ||
| I mean, like... One at a time, right? | ||
| If that pedophile is still in jail, and they're still a pedophile, I guess in that sense you haven't stopped pedophilia, but you've stopped children from being abused, and that's what's most important. | ||
| If those kids aren't being abused. | ||
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| If a kid just... See, that's the... Ah, man, I feel like we're going in circles. | ||
| Were you about to say something? | ||
| Oh, I was just saying, I think it goes back to Libby's point, I think as a society we need to decide that there are some absolute hard lines that we will not cross. | ||
| And for me, pedophilia is obviously one of them. | ||
| And there shouldn't, you know, as a human being, obviously you want to cultivate a lifestyle that has compassion, but you can't let your compassion be so overrun that you are willing to permit other people to be put in harm's way. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| It is a false mercy. | ||
| Mercy to the thief is injustice to the person that they robbed. | ||
| Mercy to the pedophile is cruelty to the child. | ||
| That said, we've got another interesting story here. | ||
| This one is a little bit lighter. | ||
| I know we've been talking about a lot of dark topics tonight. | ||
| This is a dark topic, but it's so ridiculous that it seems like something that might have come out of an Onion article, which is part of why I wanted to share it with all of you, since this is ShimCast. | ||
| And, you know, maybe we should lean into the comedy a little bit more. | ||
| This has not been a very comedic episode. | ||
| This has been a very dark episode. | ||
| We're talking about important issues. | ||
| And this is also, to be clear, an important issue. | ||
| But a Pentagon typo has leaked to millions of sensitive messages being leaked to African nations. | ||
| So basically, there is a typo that has resulted in literal millions of messages from the Defense Department, from the Pentagon. | ||
| Uh, being leaked to Mali. | ||
| Basically, you have to end your emails dot M-I-L, so in the same way that if you email someone at gmail dot com, yep. | ||
| It's really bad. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So when you email someone at gmail dot com, right, it's dot com, commercial. | ||
| When it comes to the military, it's dot M-I-L, military. | ||
| If it's to someone in Mali, it's dot M-L. | ||
| So a lot of people at the Pentagon were not typing the I. And so they were sending secret information, sensitive information at the very least, to this African nation now. | ||
| Now to be clear, for everyone who panics, this is still a serious problem, but Johanna Sevier, who manages Mali's domain, collected 117,000 emails since January of this year, and many more in years prior, and they contain a lot of information about the United States government and This is a risk which is very real. | ||
| This could very easily be exploited. | ||
| And what he basically said is that his 10-year contract managing that server expires this week. | ||
| And it's clear that the emails being sent there aren't slowing down. | ||
| Let's also mention that Molly is an ally of Russia. | ||
| So, not to stoke the Russia, Russia, Russia flames, at the same time, this is pretty bad. | ||
| This is pretty bad. | ||
| What do you guys think? | ||
| I think they should have had it as dot military U.S. | ||
| So you cannot mistake, you cannot accidentally type the wrong dot something. | ||
| You have to dot a very explicit word. | ||
| They probably didn't think that the people who worked at the Pentagon were so horrifyingly inept and stupid. | ||
| Maybe the real problem with the deep state isn't that they have too much power. | ||
| Maybe it's that they are stupid and should not have any jobs at all. | ||
| Yeah, I have so much power for the I mean normal amount of intelligence of a human being interesting because the the | ||
| spokesman who came Out to address this was like look we are actually aware | ||
| This has been happening and the thing is we have no way to fix it because basically they can't change the dot MIL | ||
| So they just need to like send out a Pentagon wide email being like, please please please be very careful because | ||
| there's no He was saying there's no there's no technical roadblock | ||
| here. I don't know if that's actually true I'm not an information technologist by any means but it is | ||
| interesting that ultimately our National security comes down to bureaucratic error | ||
| Well, don't so many things come down to bureaucratic error? | ||
| If you look at, you know, the Biden administration, they're sending out these executive orders to do all kinds of things, get the agencies to do all of this kind of stuff. | ||
| And it is just bureaucracy. | ||
| It's bureaucrats trying to figure out the best way to implement these things like Look at HHS, right? | ||
| They're like, oh, okay, we're going to implement trans policy by forcing insurance companies to cover all of these different kinds of surgeries. | ||
| The agriculture department is like, we're going to stop paying for free lunches for school kids if schools don't allow boys to use girls' bathrooms. | ||
| That's what we're going to do. | ||
| So it's a massive amount of ineptitude and failure from these people who all went to Nice state schools and now have jobs that they don't want to lose and it turns out that they're idiots and fools! | ||
| That's the real problem. | ||
| That's the issue that I see with so many conspiracy theories as well. | ||
| It would require, like a lot of these conspiracy theories would require intelligent people to be implementing these things and we are run by fools! | ||
| So do we charge them with treason? | ||
| Because ignorance of the law is not justification for breaking it. | ||
| Sure, charge them with treason and fire them all. | ||
| That would be ridiculous. | ||
| Fire everyone at the federal government. | ||
| Just get them out of office, save us a bunch of money, and start over. | ||
| At the very least, I'll say I'm sympathetic to that position. | ||
| One thing I'll mention, you brought up these schools that are having funds withheld from them for students to get lunches. | ||
| That was the Department of Agriculture, good old Tom Vilsack, who also decided that grants for farmers from the federal government should be based on race first. | ||
| And I remember when I covered that story, and everyone was like, no, nobody really cares about this, and I'm like, we're covering this story, dammit, we are covering this story. | ||
| Well, there's this weird thing where, like, every couple decades, left-wingers become more comfortable outwardly saying that we need to give farming subsidies and farms to people, not based on whether they know how to farm, but whether they're politically favored. | ||
| Like they never heard of Mao, you know what I mean? | ||
| You guys have tried the whole let's base who gets to be a farmer and who's advantage as a farmer on if we like you | ||
| politically and not like whether you can farm and treating all people | ||
| who can farm well equally instead of having like racial or political preferences. | ||
| Now, I also want to mention too, part of the irony here, which is the school lunches thing is probably the left's | ||
| number one issue to grandstand on. | ||
| And this is why it's always stupid, it's always short-sighted when conservatives say, you know what we need to do? | ||
| We need to go after the schools. | ||
| And it doesn't happen all that often, but whenever it does, it gets a tremendous amount of press from the left smearing the right. | ||
| Because of course, it's awful and it's terrible optics, but they'll say, look, these heartless conservatives don't want kids to get school lunches. | ||
| But then, When bureaucratic incompetence results in kids not getting | ||
| school lunches, we can't lay that at the feet of the people who are | ||
| comfortable with completely incompetent bureaucracies. It makes me think of like someone who takes | ||
| hostages being like, can you believe that the police department wants these hostages | ||
| to suffer because they won't give me a plane? | ||
| Like, it's just crazy! | ||
| That's like we always see in the movies like, you know, if this person dies it'll be your fault. | ||
| No, it's your stupid fault! | ||
| No, it's your fault! | ||
| You're the one choosing to be in this position. | ||
| I also have to say, can you just put yourself in this Dutch entrepreneur's position? | ||
| Who's like, hello US government, I appear to have too many of your emails. | ||
| I don't think you mean to be doing this. | ||
| Apparently this has been going on for years. | ||
| And nobody stops doing it! | ||
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it right and finally he's like fools what fools and idiots and finally he goes to the media and | |
| is like this doesn't seem to be resolving itself but i have these emails and i don't want them and | ||
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i don't think you want to be sending them and i have to leave you're talking about the malaysian | |
| guy they were probably sending them to the russians it's a dutch guy here who manages | ||
| uh the domain for the government of mali and so he is saying like this is happening and i just i | ||
| just want to know like did you call the pentagon and be like hello please help me like i i have | ||
| this weird for english press one pentagon would be like yeah it'd be no way to get yeah so well | ||
| i you know i want to ask you this because you have more experience working in tech i know you're | ||
| working for minds.com for a while and you have a technology background how difficult would it have | ||
| been for the pentagon over the course of the last 10 years you're just going to implement some kind | ||
| of software into the computers that are being used there to set off a flag if someone tries to email | ||
| a dot ml email address instead of You could have blocked it for sure. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, how difficult would something like that have been from a technological perspective? | ||
| I don't think that would be... I don't know for sure, but I would think that you could internally block the .ml... What is that called? | ||
| Xdecode? | ||
| I don't know what you'd call that, but you could block that. | ||
| Maybe they didn't even know the problem was happening though, so they didn't block it. | ||
| I mean, of course, it sounds like he had been saying things, but yeah, maybe. | ||
| I mean, maybe this is one of those things that people just never flagged or considered to be important enough to run up to the top, but it seems like a pretty massive vulnerability that there's a country that's triggering all this shit. | ||
| I'm wondering how this is- And then we have one Dutch guy who just wants to get off at five and go home. | ||
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They don't really care. | |
| This one Dutch guy is like, what are we doing? | ||
| They're like, the Pentagon's like, what's Mali going to do? | ||
| Let's go home. | ||
| We're fine. | ||
| We're going home for the evening. | ||
| I'm not going to fix this. | ||
| I think it's also like there's probably like I want to say there's like one person who is like miss save some email and it's just like not aware they are the problem and it's continuously sending it out to the wrong thing. | ||
| I mean I find this whole situation so ridiculous and at the same time like hysterically funny. | ||
| I agree with you it's like something out of the office. | ||
| Is it intent like is it like I don't know, I don't want to say God, it's a little too vague, but like, is there like a force that's mind-controlling these people to send it to the Russian ally? | ||
| I think it's just poor dexterity! | ||
| I think they're just, they're rushing, they're not typing quickly enough. | ||
| It could just be stupidity, but like... | ||
| Ian, hold on. | ||
| Are you like, don't attribute to stupidity what you can attribute to madness? | ||
| No, I don't think it's intentional. | ||
| I don't think it's subconsciously intentional. | ||
| That should be a t-shirt. | ||
| That's an Ian shirt. | ||
| Don't attribute to stupidity what you can attribute to madness. | ||
| And they're like, whether we realize it or not, we're contributing to the demise of the liberal economic order. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't think that's really happening, but it's interesting when huge masses of people make the same mistake for a long period of time. | ||
| It's also interesting how much more invested people are in being careful when they have a stake in something. | ||
| So for example, as someone who runs a business, as someone who's responsible for You know, gaining their own income through the success of the operation that they've created and are building. | ||
| Like, I'm pretty careful when I send an email to a new domain. | ||
| I want to make sure I got it exactly right, especially if I'm sending information that I think could be, you know, sensitive, like a pitch guide or like an FLA file or something that I would want people outside of our organization to have. | ||
| But these people, I think a lot of them, they just don't feel like they have that much of a stake, so they're not paying as close of attention to what they're doing. | ||
| And you should feel like you have a massive stake because you're working for the Pentagon. | ||
| I think that's true with a lot of people who have jobs these days. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| They don't feel like they have a stake. | ||
| Have you seen this thing where, what is it, Gen Z? | ||
| There's that whole quiet quitting thing. | ||
| There's the take it easy Monday thing. | ||
| There's the I'm not going to work as hard as I really could thing. | ||
| There's a lot of this going on. | ||
| And it's like civilization. | ||
| We have built civilization up to be so big and powerful and huge. | ||
| That it's going to take a while for it to collapse. | ||
| But all of these things are little pieces of collapse. | ||
| People not taking a stake. | ||
| People not caring what happens. | ||
| People thinking that they're going to continue to get paid and have jobs even if they stop doing any work. | ||
| It's one of the reasons I love talking to people who own a small business. | ||
| Like locally there's Black Dog Coffee in Chattanooga Junction and I was talking to a roaster who | ||
| just like started doing it for fun and then like when he was working in construction and | ||
| he couldn't do that anymore in 2007, he was like, I'll just go full time and he's built | ||
| this business where like the employees that I met there are like, no, I just, I really | ||
| believe in what we're doing and I like this product and I want it to be good. | ||
| There is a sense of pride of ownership and I love that. | ||
| I love that you have this idea that people are like, I am interested in this. | ||
| I'm intellectually engaged in it, but also like I'm roasting coffee. | ||
| I want it to be a good product. | ||
| I want people to feel satisfied like and maybe that I feel bad because I always sort of joke with my friends who work for corporate America. | ||
| It's like, oh, you're just your corporate gals. | ||
| You have some jargon and you do some meetings. | ||
| I'm like, what are you even doing? | ||
| And of course there are reasons to work for large companies. | ||
| I don't want to be completely Against it, but it is there is something like I'm saying like when I was talking to black dog coffee roasters I just really love hearing how passionate about what they what they do and I don't know I I I wish more people got to work in environments like that because when you work for sort of bigger Souls corporations when you feel detached from your work it eats away at who you are you feel dissatisfied Yeah, I would agree. | ||
| Also you're doing a disservice to the company that you're working for. | ||
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| They're gonna do worse. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And if they feel loyalty to you and you don't feel loyalty to the company, then that's a problem. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Well, I think a lot of people not only don't feel any kind of ownership over the work they're doing, but apparently they don't feel a whole lot of ownership over the decisions that they've made. | ||
| This is something we see frequently with the student debt crisis, the student loan issues, and the fact that Democrats are trying to push to forgive all student loan debt if they can. | ||
| Not the Democratic Party officially, but many people in the party want all student loan debt to be forgiven. | ||
| Joe Biden was pushing for this. | ||
| Obviously, the Supreme Court wasn't having it, but we see here in some data that was published by Axios here that young Americans are likely to blame the Supreme Court and Republicans for a lack of debt forgiveness. | ||
| Now, here's a radical idea. | ||
| Maybe if you took out loans, the person you should blame for the fact that you are in debt is not the Supreme Court, And not the Republican Party, but yourself. | ||
| That said, I'm sympathetic to some of the arguments that advocates for student loan debt forgiveness make, just in the sense that if someone's already paid off more than they actually owed, but because they've been paying it off for so long and have such a high interest rate, that they're still in the hole, I do think there's something about that which is upsetting, especially considering these loans are federally guaranteed, so there isn't the same level of risk for the lenders who are collecting this massive interest rate. | ||
| I hear all of that. | ||
| That said, it's hard to be sympathetic when people who statistically are making significantly more than people without college degrees are demanding that those people pay their debts off for them, and people who also are earning at the same level as people who did pay off their degrees but had to take less money in the moment in order to pay that off and they want them to have their wages redistributed | ||
| or their salary redistributed to pay that debt off. So just to give you guys an idea of the | ||
| numbers here, if you graduate with a doctorate degree, your median earnings are $97,000 per | ||
| year. Your unemployment rate is about 1%. If you have a master's degree, your median salary is | ||
| like 77,000, about 78,000, and your unemployment rate's about 2%. When you get down to somebody | ||
| with a high school diploma, your median Salary is $38,000 a year and you have an unemployment rate | ||
| of 3.6% So people who have doctorates, people who have degrees, they make significantly more than people who don't have these degrees. | ||
| They also are significantly less likely to be unemployed. | ||
| So the idea that you could spend four to six years in an academic institution, even longer than that, depending on the track you were on, and accumulate debt throughout that time period, and then step out into the workforce after having all, you know, Many, if not all, in some circumstances of your living expenses taken care of through that four to six years, and then enter into the workforce not having had a job before, but being able to make more money than people who had a job through that four to six year period, four to eight year period, depending on your track, whatever, however long you took, is totally insane and totally selfish in my opinion. | ||
| Part of it, I think, is that people expect that if they study something, they're going to be able | ||
| to get a job in that field, and that getting a job in that field should be able to pay off their | ||
| student loans. And I think that that's short-sighted as well. I mean, if you go to college and you | ||
| study gender, and then you get a degree in philosophy or whatever, why would you think | ||
| that you're immediately going to be able to get a professorship and pay off your degree with that? | ||
| The idea is that you go to school. Sure, you can study what you want, but you have to then get a | ||
| job that's going to pay your bills with the salary that you make. So I think that the biggest problem | ||
| is the unrealistic expectations of the students who take out these loans. | ||
| I feel like the loan system, and I am not an economics person, but | ||
| It seems to me like it's just completely broken. | ||
| I know there is an argument for like you took out the loan so you know the consequences. | ||
| It does seem crazy to me that the federal government gets to say you can't default on this loan and also we will ultimately decide if we'll forgive it or not. | ||
| Like this seems like a broken system. | ||
| If you could default on student loans would you Issue them, right? | ||
| Like, a bank would take into account if you're getting a loan for a house, they take into account the kind of money you make, your financial history, and then they make a decision. | ||
| Does the federal government take into account what we need in terms of jobs? | ||
| So like, if you're a nursing student, do you get a better interest rate if you take out a student loan? | ||
| Like, are we giving loans to people where there is also jobs waiting for them at the end? | ||
| That system seems like it makes more sense than we currently have, which is like, You're 18 and can take out massive amounts of debt to study whatever you think may or may not, based on nothing, make money and be able to pay off this loan. | ||
| There doesn't seem to be the same system that we have for every other type of loan out there. | ||
| Yeah, no, I totally agree with you. | ||
| I think that if financial institutions weren't having these loans subsidized, they would be more careful about who they were going to give loans out to. | ||
| I think other things might be taken into consideration if the whole system wasn't rigged by these federally subsidized student loans. | ||
| You might even have financial institutions considering not only the major person has and the likelihood of getting a job and what they might earn at that job if they graduate, but also the likelihood of them graduating. | ||
| What kind of student were they in high school? | ||
| And ultimately, I think the loans would be significantly less expensive overall. | ||
| The National Bureau of Economic Research published a paper several years ago where they essentially confirmed that Universities and colleges respond to the widened access and easily available money by doing, guess what? | ||
| Raising the prices. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| And most of the raises in tuition actually don't correlate with an increased number of people in the faculty. | ||
| They actually hire more administrators. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I know there are many people who have made the argument. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And so I know many people who've made the arguments that there are many colleges that they're basically hedge funds with a kind of educational front built atop. | ||
| They take this money, they invest it, they end up growing their wealth, kids are paying their to get an education. | ||
| They don't necessarily improve the quality of that education as students move through and the tuition goes up and they're laughing all the way to the bank. | ||
| And people end up in this kind of I don't want to call it debt slavery because that seems a bit hyperbolic, but they end up owing significant portions of their income for the foreseeable future. | ||
| And again, the one reason I am not sympathetic to the people who push for student loan forgiveness, even though I am sympathetic to people with student loans, is because I don't think that people who made the decision not to go to college and who are making less than you should have to bite the bullet. | ||
| Or also, I mean, I'm sure we all know people who took out, you know, hundreds of thousands | ||
| of dollars in student loans, and we also know people who made the decision to go to colleges | ||
| that were less expensive so that they didn't have to be burdened with that loan debt or | ||
| made other decisions about how they were going to be educated. | ||
| And I think that's really valid as well. | ||
| I know one of my cousins, very intelligent, wanted to go to a top school, decided to go to a state school, had enough money to pay for that, did that, and is now not saddled with student loan debt, has a good job, has a mortgage, has a couple of kids, doesn't have to pay for school still. | ||
| I think part of it is the false promise that, you know, college is this door to some great, uh, you know, ladder to the elite, or just more, uh, financial comfort or stability, when that's not the case anymore. | ||
| I think you can falsely sell to people if you go to the most elite university you can go to. | ||
| Even if it puts you in hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of debt, you are guaranteed success in the future. | ||
| And that's just not the case, even though... Right, that's not true either, yeah. | ||
| But it is more likely, though. | ||
| I mean, statistically, the higher your degree level is, or the higher your education level is, the more likely you are to earn more money. | ||
| What I'm saying is, yes, you may... | ||
| As studies show, have more employment, things like that. | ||
| But if you put yourself in debt, you always have that debt. | ||
| It doesn't go away the first day. | ||
| You would then have to budget yourself accordingly. | ||
| You'd have to take a job that you can pay it off. | ||
| You'd have to choose a lifestyle that accommodates this debt. | ||
| And if you don't want to have to do that, you make choices differently. | ||
| And ultimately, you're able to potentially generate wealth more quickly because you don't have to immediately overcome this obstacle you've given yourself, which is massive student loan debt. | ||
| Yeah, well, there's a couple different ways of looking at this, but here's one way I look at it. | ||
| Firstly, if you got a degree that was very useful and you're earning a lot of money and you're the kind of person whose student loan debt we would want to pay off because you're massively contributing, you're making enough money to pay off your student loan debts, right? | ||
| If you're somebody who majored in something useless and so you're not making any money, well, why would we subsidize useless degrees? | ||
| You think that if you forgive student loan debt... Well, that's stupid, too. | ||
| You think if we forgive people student loan debt, that's not going to have an effect on the market? | ||
| That's not going to have an effect on the number of people taking out student loans? | ||
| That's not going to have an effect on tuition costs? | ||
| Of course it's going to. | ||
| It's going to make the problem worse. | ||
| Yeah, it will make it worse. | ||
| When can we just declare the student loan debt experiment dead? | ||
| That's what I want to know. | ||
| But it's not a collective. | ||
| this system because it seems broken and even if they forgave some massive amount of student | ||
| loan debts and by some crazy odds, which is obviously unrealistic, it didn't hurt the | ||
| economy somewhere else. | ||
| When do we say, okay, we've learned a lesson. | ||
| This system is not working. | ||
| We are going to do something else because ultimately that's what bothers me the most. | ||
| But it's not a collective approach. | ||
| We don't have a collectivist approach. | ||
| No. | ||
| Student loans should not have interest attached to them. | ||
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That's my first opinion. | |
| That's a huge issue. | ||
| I think if it's federally guaranteed, it should be modified at least. | ||
| Can't you end up having to pay interest on your interest? | ||
| Yeah, that's compounding interest, and children don't understand that. | ||
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I call it the most powerful force in the universe. | |
| We've sold them a false bill of goods, too. | ||
| Like, pursue your dreams and everything will work out. | ||
| That's total crap. | ||
| It's not true. | ||
| It's just a lie. | ||
| I think your dreams have to, like, look, there's a couple things. | ||
| Like, your dreams have to be good. | ||
| They also have to line up with what it makes the most sense for you to be doing in the world, right? | ||
| There's so many layers of this. | ||
| Like, some people have genuinely bad dreams, right? | ||
| Some people want to do things that would actually not be good for the world. | ||
| And then there are some people who want to do something good, but maybe they're not the best person for it, right? | ||
| There are a lot of layers to this. | ||
| I think there are a lot of people who dream of putting in no effort. | ||
| That's the other thing. | ||
| Yeah, well, yes. | ||
| There's sort of a lack of discipline. | ||
| Like I said, if we had to line up a bunch of 18 year olds and be like, hey, you could major in whatever you want, | ||
| but I'll tell you that these are the industries that need workers, they have salaries. | ||
| If you get through this degree, you will have money at the end. | ||
| There's gonna be a lag there though. | ||
| As soon as you say like, these are the industries where we need people to come do work, | ||
| it's gonna take what, like 10 years for people to get up to speed in that area | ||
| and then things will have been done. | ||
| Better than nothing though, right? | ||
| And I think part of it is like, Why don't we train children to make rational decisions | ||
| about their future? | ||
| Why are we also indulging this culture of like, you could do anything, but then you have to be responsible for the consequences of that. | ||
| I can't say for sure, you know, hey, we need nurses. | ||
| There's obviously a delay. | ||
| On the other hand, nursing is a super flexible career. | ||
| If you're at all interested in the sciences, you could make any kind of career with that, even if initially you go into one specific field. | ||
| What are we supposed to do with all these kids who just want to be social media influencers and they don't even want to do real jobs? | ||
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Travel nurses have a huge Instagram love following. | |
| That's what's coming. | ||
| That's what's after this. | ||
| Well, and this is one of the problems, right? | ||
| People will talk about UBI. | ||
| One of the, of course, massive flaws with it, not just as a concept, but particularly in this culture, is we don't live in a society where doing things that are necessarily the most useful for the group are the most highly valued. | ||
| So you're going to have a bunch of people trying to pursue lifestyles and career choices with their UBI that actually don't really help other people. | ||
| Yeah, talking about people that are talking about things. | ||
| People making, like, weed sculptures. | ||
| Like, you could argue what we're doing right now is talking about people that are talking about things. | ||
| That's not contributing. | ||
| Well, it's a storytelling. | ||
| So storytelling is contributing. | ||
| And if you're good at it, it's extremely contributing to society. | ||
| But like, not everybody, we don't need everybody to be a storyteller. | ||
| You only need a small percentage of the world to be fantastic storyteller. | ||
| I mean, you really don't need, you know, you need people to do things. | ||
| And then the storytellers will tell the story of what you did. | ||
| Well, I don't think the fact that the careers that we're in aren't necessarily as high demand as other things out there. | ||
| And this actually goes back to trades, honestly. | ||
| There are a lot of trades that need people to pursue them because we're running short. | ||
| The fact that my particular skill set doesn't mean that I'm in a high demand career doesn't bother me. | ||
| I just think that if you're 18 and being given information, hey, If you don't want to have debt or if you're going to take on debt, this is a career field you might want to consider because it will allow you to more easily pay it off. | ||
| Maybe don't study interpretive dance or take a couple classes on the side. | ||
| My degree is in, what is my degree in? | ||
| I have a Master of Fine Arts. | ||
| It's so funny. | ||
| Nice! | ||
| Yeah, and it's in playwriting. | ||
| I studied playwriting. | ||
| Well, that's one of those Masters you don't usually end up getting a huge earning potential. | ||
| I did not get a huge earning potential with that. | ||
| But, you know, perhaps I did, or a lot of my classmates did anyway, right? | ||
| And now they're all on strike in Hollywood. | ||
| Well, let me tell you something. | ||
| We've got a huge earning potential, which is why we're going to go over to Super Chats, ladies. | ||
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These transitions have been just incredible tonight. | |
| On the other hand, we're going to transition into a new story right now. | ||
| To hop on over. | ||
| I feel like Tim on the farm is not nervous for this, at least the transitions of his job. | ||
| No, he's hanging out with goats. | ||
| This has been a fun show, you guys. | ||
| This has been a fun show, and Tim's having fun on the farm, running around with the other journalists. | ||
| I can't wait till he's back from the farm. | ||
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Yeah, he'll definitely be back. | |
| I want you to know that Tim may like the farm. | ||
| He may choose to stay there for a little bit longer. | ||
| Yeah, but he's got a farm here. | ||
| He'll definitely be back. | ||
| What about the chickens? | ||
| Have y'all considered hanging out with, like, another guy wearing a beanie? | ||
| Like, do you think it'd be fun to make some new friends? | ||
| You know what? | ||
| This weekend we are gonna go to the skate park and we are gonna pick you out another beanie friend. | ||
| That's what we're gonna do. | ||
| Just to keep you company while Tim's gone. | ||
| Yeah, just keep you company for a while, while Tim's gone. | ||
| That is so considerate. | ||
| Yeah, well, you know I'm a nice guy. | ||
| I'm excited for this weekend. | ||
| That's why Tim put me in charge here while he was gone. | ||
| I feel like he didn't put you in charge, you just campaigned endlessly and then he was like, why? | ||
| Did you campaign? | ||
| I actually didn't, I said I begged him, I begged him, I said, please, I said I can't do this, please Tim, and he said you have to, he said I need this from you before I go off to the farms. | ||
| You have to grow as a person. | ||
| I'm bigger than I used to be. | ||
| Exactly, that's right. | ||
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We have here... On the other hand, we have Supertramp. | |
| We do have super chats. | ||
| I'm not your buddy, guys, as I've spoken to enough leftists to know that Kamala didn't slip up when she said reduce the population. | ||
| These people genuinely desire it. | ||
| What do you all have to say about that? | ||
| I thought that was amazing when she said that we should reduce the population for climate change, and I'm pretty sure she means it. | ||
| And I believe that that's true because she is pro-abortion, she is pro-sterilizing kids through sex changes, and she's pro-war. | ||
| So she's anti-life, She's pro-destruction, reducing population, and she thinks we should do it for climate change. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, by definition, right, if you're... This is so interesting because it depends on how you frame things. | ||
| When someone says, there are too many people and we need to, like, you know, promote methods for poverty relief in the third world, such as contraceptive methods. | ||
| It's like, that's literally calling for, like, population control. | ||
| You know what's really good for poverty relief? | ||
| Fossil fuels. | ||
| That is what has raised people out of poverty globally for decades and decades. | ||
| And normal nuclear families, mom and dad at home together. | ||
| It's also very good. | ||
| So we have from Michael, as a Catholic animator of half Irish descent, I'm 50% sure Seamus did not take the spoons. | ||
| Which part of you is sure? | ||
| No, he did. | ||
| Wait. | ||
| Watch. | ||
| Watch him. | ||
| That's not something I would do. | ||
| You guys know I wouldn't do something like that. | ||
| He's shaking. | ||
| You guys know that's not me. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Come on. | ||
| I have never in my life seen anyone in this room use a spoon, and I will stand by that. | ||
| See that? | ||
| She just offended me. | ||
| You have it from Hannah Clare. | ||
| I didn't do anything with the spoons. | ||
| She just said that. | ||
| Occasionally Ian uses one in his coffee to stir it, but I've never seen him eat soup. | ||
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I don't know. | |
| Ian does use spoons. | ||
| That's kind of interesting. | ||
| I just drink it out of the bowl. | ||
| I always travel with a spoon. | ||
| I definitely have seen spoons in your coffee. | ||
| One big wooden spoon. | ||
| Yeah, I keep using the same one. | ||
| It doesn't dangle and cling because Luke was getting nuts about it. | ||
| You got sick of Tim's dangling and clinging spoons so you hid them under the house. | ||
| No, Luke got annoyed with the spoon sounds. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| I wouldn't put it past Luke to steal some spoons. | ||
| I'm just saying, Luke Rudkowski. | ||
| My mom has really long wooden tasting spoons and not any other kind of normal spoons to cook with. | ||
| So I end up stirring spaghetti in these giant pots with spoons that are like this long and like that much spoon on the end. | ||
| We have here from Revolver Taco, what if some Republican decided to filibuster the sex ed book for kids and see what happens? | ||
| Tell me that wouldn't bring some attention to it. | ||
| I think that's a brilliant idea. | ||
| Now here's the thing. | ||
| That would be public obscenity. | ||
| I wouldn't want kids to end up seeing that, but I'm curious about what the response from the media would be. | ||
| The response would be the same as it's been at school boards. | ||
| When parents show up and start reading these books out loud to the school board saying, why are you giving this to my fourth grader? | ||
| And the school board says, that's too, you know, that's too pornographic. | ||
| Put it back on the shelf. | ||
| We can't listen to that here in the school board. | ||
| And the moms are all like, you're giving this to my children! | ||
| Isn't that nuts? | ||
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It's too gross to talk about it in show, so put it back on the kids' shelves. | |
| So give it back to the children. | ||
| They can look at it in private. | ||
| Well, this is the thing. | ||
| They always want to hide what they're doing from you. | ||
| So this is another example. | ||
| Whenever pro-lifers show a picture of what happens in an unborn child in an abortion, the left goes, you can't show people that! | ||
| Like, wait, the people who do it are heroes, but I can't look at what's being done? | ||
| That's kind of interesting. | ||
| You know what's crazy? | ||
| When I was in eighth grade, so I went through confirmation, and at my church they showed the entire confirmation class a video of an abortion on a big screen. | ||
| Just some fun festive stuff for a couple of days. | ||
| I mean, it's good that they showed you the people. | ||
| You know, I have not been able to be pro-abortion ever since. | ||
| I mean, I really think there is something to giving the information. | ||
| It was very clear. | ||
| I still remember it, even though it was black and white. | ||
| But that's the thing. | ||
| If we're gonna make people make these really difficult, intense decisions, why aren't we just upfront about the consequences? | ||
| I think it's shame. | ||
| Honestly, it's such a lame thing, but I think it is. | ||
| No, I think it's manipulation. | ||
| I think people don't want you to know kind of what's happening. | ||
| Probably for war, because I was thinking about why don't they show the horrors of war, because they want to keep doing it. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| You look at war propaganda from back in the day and it was like, we're going to go over there and beat those Germans and we're not coming back until it's over over there. | ||
| They weren't showing you the gritty realities of what happened. | ||
| Young men, this is the thing, young men signed up to fight in the First World War in droves because they were afraid that the war would end before they had the opportunity to be deployed. | ||
| They thought it was going to be a fun adventure. | ||
| A lot of people signed up to be in the U.S. | ||
| Armed Forces after 9-11. | ||
| And that didn't look fun at all. | ||
| I mean, we saw people jumping out of buildings. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| It's interesting because after that point, you're right, we did have films that I think, of course, couldn't capture the reality of war, but didn't sugarcoat it the way that a lot of propaganda pieces from the past did. | ||
| But what they still did is they gave young men, and I think Americans in general, a sense of pride and honor in what our military had done in the past. | ||
| So even though you saw the struggle, it was something that you wanted to be able to own. | ||
| It was a struggle that you kind of wanted to be yours, and I think that's why so many young men were willing to enlist, even after seeing the horrific reality or at least the pale image of the horrific reality | ||
| that could be captured in a film. | ||
| And I will say, I think as a society we have less exposure to death probably. | ||
| I mean, this isn't true for everybody, but as modern medicine has advanced, you know, | ||
| you go from hearing stories of like families that have 12 children and only three survive | ||
| into adulthood. | ||
| Right, that happened a lot. | ||
| We, it doesn't have to just be war, but the idea that there are consequences, that there | ||
| is sort of death and destruction around us. | ||
| At one point was maybe more present and I am grateful that we have moved past it in | ||
| a lot of ways, but I do think it is important to acknowledge that like, | ||
| There are really difficult things that happen in order for you to sometimes make the choices. | ||
| And if you are numb to them, then like... That's like Albert Camus talks about having witnessed executions, like public executions. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That was something like, if you used to, when there was capital punishment, that would happen in public. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And now it's very hidden. | ||
| Well, it's interesting too, because that's also part of what makes it a deterrent. | ||
| In a massive way, like doing it in public. | ||
| Yeah, if you see someone being hanged, that's severe. | ||
| Yeah, you're like, you know, maybe I'm not going to do the thing he did. | ||
| Here's an idea. | ||
| Not that, right? | ||
| Speaking of crime and criminal behavior, we have a very important super chat here from Noah Prunier. | ||
| This is a very important one that I really have to read here. | ||
| Don't mind here, just defending the potato man. | ||
| There's no proof these spoons were stolen. | ||
| Personally, I'm glad Tim got what was coming to him and got sent to the farm for these baseless accusations. | ||
| Spoons come and go, but Chimcast is forever. | ||
| He didn't get sent to the farm. | ||
| He chose to go. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| He got sent to the farm, but it was in his best interest. | ||
| And he did what he deserved. | ||
| Tim was doing a lot of really hard work, and we care about him, so we found a nice farm for him to go to. | ||
| Did he at least go on the Tesla? | ||
| He's having fun. | ||
| He's in a better place, you might say. | ||
| His head was out the window the whole time. He loved it. | ||
| I did yesterday. | ||
| He's having fun. | ||
| He's in a better place, you might say. | ||
| Yes. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| With wind and sun. | ||
| And so, the thing I want to say about the Super 10, there's a couple things. | ||
| Endless skateboarding. | ||
| I want to point out the numerous ways in which this exonerates me. | ||
| Firstly, he refers to me as the potato man, which means he has a racist bias against me. | ||
| And he's still defending me because the evidence is extremely strong in my favor. | ||
| So we have a testimony from someone who's actually disinclined to agree with me. | ||
| They're saying there's no proof I stole the spoons. | ||
| That's absolutely true. | ||
| They're also happy for Tim that he was sent to the farm. | ||
| They liked Tim. | ||
| The proof is in the pudding! | ||
| Did you eat the pudding with my spoons? | ||
| Well, there were like six spoons in the pudding! | ||
| I didn't, I didn't do it, I had nothing to do with it, I don't even eat pudding! | ||
| Yeah, that's a good point. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| Yeah, no, Shimcast is forever, I appreciate it. | ||
| That was a lame joke that I just made, by the way. | ||
| I laugh at lame jokes, I love lame jokes. | ||
| I actually would have gone for it. | ||
| Stupid jokes are my favorite. | ||
| I would have done the same thing. | ||
| Do you guys think I've got low energy today, or is it more settling? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| You're in a good spot. | ||
| Listen, dude. | ||
| You're working out. | ||
| You're getting amped. | ||
| One of the side effects is you make a dad joke every now and again. | ||
| You know why? | ||
| Because you're working on that dad bod, baby. | ||
| You're getting ripped. | ||
| Thanks, brother. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| We have Michael Beacon. | ||
| To the Bloomberg writer, emphasizing the difference between hemophilia and pedophilia is never a good look. | ||
| Agreed. | ||
| Also, check out Ink Slayer Entertainment on the Discord, Showcase, and the .com. | ||
| Thank you so much for your chat. | ||
| It's kind of funny because does this person like send the article up being like, I just wrote this piece, like, hope you guys check it out. | ||
| I worked really hard on it. | ||
| And it's like, we should defend the pedophiles. | ||
| Yeah, I think very unlikely. | ||
| I think it must be so weird for like a circle to be like, wow, interesting. | ||
| Yeah, I think defending the pedophiles is always a bad look. | ||
| Always. | ||
| And also a bad for society really. | ||
| Yeah, expose the pedophiles. | ||
| And I mean, expose the way they think that will help people not to become them. | ||
| Or will it encourage other people to become them? | ||
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I wonder. | |
| I'm taking a stab in the dark. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But we haven't tried it yet, so maybe. | ||
| But, I mean, locking them up forever seems to work. | ||
| So we should keep doing that. | ||
| Like El Salvador. | ||
| They locked up... How many people did they lock up in El Salvador? | ||
| Like 30,000 people? | ||
| They now have a very... They went from, like, the highest murder rate to, like... As it turns out, jails work. | ||
| You know, putting people in jail actually works. | ||
| We have from JamesHatesEverything, .ML is an easy fix at the server. | ||
| You can set up, excuse me, a mailer table to redirect any .ML to MIL, or better yet, to get an infosec box to scream at the sender. | ||
| See, this is somebody who should probably be working at the Pentagon, right? | ||
| No, he's too competent. | ||
| He's basically saying you could have taken any emails that they accidentally sent to Mal- not Malaysia. | ||
| Mali. | ||
| Mali, and then you could have them redirected to the military from all those computers. | ||
| It would just have to be like an auto-redirect? | ||
| Yeah, or you could have it sent back to them and be like, what are you doing?! | ||
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| This is Mali! | ||
| Um, we have from Captain Titus, uh, on the Pentagon issue, you can 100% block addresses to a firewall, so all internal emails can go to that particular extension. | ||
| Okay, so is everyone who watches TimCast smarter than everyone at the Pentagon? | ||
| I just pulled the quote from the Pentagon. | ||
| It says, while it's not impossible to implement technical controls preventing the use of personal email accounts for government business, the department continues to provide direction and training to DOD personnel. | ||
| The office of the DOD CIO oversees this matter. | ||
| So they're saying like, we have an issue. | ||
| We can't totally figure out how to stop it. | ||
| We think that there could be a technical solution, but we're still trying to train people on what not to do. | ||
| But did they insinuate they're letting people use their private or personal emails to work at the Pentagon? | ||
| Yeah, just like Hillary Clinton. | ||
| Then that's why they weren't able to change the way that the things were directing, because they're letting them use, like, Google. | ||
| That is so ridiculous. | ||
| But what they're saying is, like, we're still working on training them to add the I to the end of this. | ||
| That shouldn't be, like, a big training. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| Because they have plenty of DEI training. | ||
| They have plenty of, like, LGBT orientation training, but they can't tell them how to do their jobs correctly. | ||
| Maybe that's why they wanted to end the QIA to that one. | ||
| They're like, we have to have I's in everything so we set the end. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Brilliant. | ||
| We have from Project Addington, says the cartoonist should be renamed Spoonanon? | ||
| Shaman? | ||
| Are you kidding me? | ||
| Spoonanon a shamana? | ||
| Yeah, well they're talking, I think that's a derogatory reference to the QAnon shaman. | ||
| Jacob Chansley! | ||
| Thank you for using the proper name, and I think that my proper name should be used, because here's the deal. | ||
| This Spoonanon label that has been thrown at me by those in the establishment who are threatened by the fact that I'm speaking truth And only know how to dismiss things by calling them conspiracy theories is really a worse look for them than it is for me. | ||
| You can't delegitimize every single counterfactual that I put out there against Tim's narrative which upholds my innocence by calling me spooning on forever. | ||
| Can I have a follow-up question? | ||
| Yeah, go ahead. | ||
| When is your movie, Sound of Spoon Dumb, coming out? | ||
| I just can't wait to see it. | ||
| We're working on it. | ||
| I want to point something out. | ||
| Of course, there is no proof that you stole the spoons, Seamus, but there is a heavy amount. | ||
| You can stop. | ||
| I think you've said enough. | ||
| I believe that Tim had no spoons, and then you brought them back. | ||
| Or you brought them in, I should say, from elsewhere. | ||
| And that's all the data we have at this point. | ||
| I'm not commenting on the particulars of the situation at this point other than to say that I am innocent. | ||
| We have from, excuse me, I'm gonna try to pronounce this, uh, A-E-M-T, I don't know if they want me to say, like, Amt, or, you know, A-E-M-T 2020, you're right! | ||
| You're right! | ||
| That's a good point! | ||
| Look, because these wonderful people are giving us their hard-earned money. | ||
| I want to get their moniker right. | ||
| You want to get their spoons right. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| This is, um, Oh my gosh. | ||
| Went to the movies tonight and saw Sound of Freedom. | ||
| Sold out in their town. | ||
| I don't want to knock them. | ||
| So we saw Indiana Jones instead. | ||
| It's all over the place and no one's motives are clear. | ||
| Everyone just wants the dial. | ||
| Yeah, what have the box office numbers been for... I think they broke a hundred. | ||
| Is that right? | ||
| I know they broke fifty million. | ||
| I'll look it up now. | ||
| Last week. | ||
| And then, as you're looking it up, my mom just texted me. | ||
| She's like, hey, that movie you were telling me about, my friend just came over and told me I should go see it. | ||
| I was like, you should. | ||
| It is wild. | ||
| This word-of-mouth thing has been so interesting to me. | ||
| And it's actual. | ||
| If you saw the Avengers movie, you're like, it's great, you should see it. | ||
| I would probably not go. | ||
| It's interesting that this movie that people know is kind of heavy, they're still willing to go see when it's recommended to them. | ||
| I'm seeing it earned over $85 million since it opened on July 4th, according to Box Office Mojo. | ||
| Is that really recent? | ||
| That was through this weekend, I believe. | ||
| And does that include the Pay It Forward? | ||
| I would imagine that counts towards the box office, but I could be incorrect about that. | ||
| It was a joy to have Tim Ballard on the show. | ||
| I interviewed him when he premiered the film in DC. | ||
| He was really an exceptional human being. | ||
| Extremely. | ||
| Just very mild-mannered, very humble. | ||
| Dude, if I was out there doing that, I'd be like, yeah, that's me. | ||
| I'm the one who stops the pedal. | ||
| I'm the one doing the thing. | ||
| And he's so humble about it. | ||
| He's like part of the process. | ||
| I actually asked him about that same question that the Berlatsky Prostasia guy was talking about, like the difference between human trafficking and all of that stuff. | ||
| And I was asking him about how the left is trying to say that Stranger Danger is not a big deal and that all of this happens at home. | ||
| And he was like, yeah, I mean, of course, exploitation can come from anywhere. | ||
| This is what I was working on, you know? | ||
| But he's, of course, aware of all that stuff. | ||
| He's aware of that framing. | ||
| Yeah, he's... I mean, one thing that the... One thing they mentioned while they were here was just what a bold choice it was to release the film on the 4th of July because all the biggest films in the country tend to be released around that date. | ||
| And they did. | ||
| And man, they're crushing. | ||
| They're crushing. | ||
| So go see it! | ||
| So go see Sound of Freedom. | ||
| We're not gonna stop plugging it till it's not in theaters anymore. | ||
| I might even see it again. | ||
| Honestly. | ||
| That movie was wild. | ||
| So... | ||
| Speaking of Michael Malice, I just tweeted at him yesterday. | ||
| but uh... never never tribute to stupidity that which can be adequately | ||
| explained by michael malice that's also fair to michael malice have something to | ||
| do with this michael malice you | ||
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the spoon thing? or are we referring to... just any of the stuff... speaking of michael malice i just tweeted at him | |
| yesterday i'm concerned that the pharmaceutical industry is going to | ||
| start telling people to get white pilled | ||
| he just wrote the book you know This is another dad joke, and I'm here for it. | ||
| I'm afraid, because they're going to be like, did you take your white pill yet? | ||
| Are you white-pilled? | ||
| And then they'll show their PharmaMed, and I'm like, oh no. | ||
| I love bad jokes. | ||
| You're like a whole new person with these extra calories and these workout routines. | ||
| Look at me, I'm lighting up. | ||
| Yeah, just wait. | ||
| Do you feel better? | ||
| No, not yet. | ||
| I feel kind of bloated because I'm trying to pack in 2,800 calories and I've only got like 1,700. | ||
| Why 2,800? | ||
| That's a lot. | ||
| It's a lot because I'm trying to gain 15 pounds in two weeks. | ||
| That doesn't sound healthy, Ian. | ||
| No, it's two pounds a week for six weeks. | ||
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Okay, that's different. | |
| That sounds slightly better. | ||
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2,800 calories. | |
| I'm not a health expert. | ||
| Did you buy new clothes yet? | ||
| No, not yet. | ||
| Not yet. | ||
| I'm going to stretch out my mediums. | ||
| I think so. | ||
| So we have trock754 said, our society fell when tolerance was embraced as a core virtue. | ||
| Tolerating immorality is not virtuous. | ||
| Why haven't conservatives had any guts? | ||
| That's a fantastic question. | ||
| I've talked about this a lot. | ||
| I think part of it is because conservatives have their own set of vices that they don't want anyone to criticize, so they'll say something like, Homosexuality is bad, or transgenderism is bad, but they like totally reject the telos of sex themselves because they won't stand out and speak up against contraceptives. | ||
| And so, they have their own skeletons in their closet, and that makes them feel like, who am I to judge? | ||
| Who am I to say that anything is wrong in this arena? | ||
| Because I'm also doing something sexually immoral. | ||
| I think that's a huge part of it. | ||
| I don't think that's the only thing. | ||
| They've also been shamed. | ||
| One thing the left has been brilliant at, and I mentioned this earlier, Firstly, they try to claim any negative behavior is totally impossible to avoid. | ||
| Some people are always going to do it. | ||
| We need to give an outlet for it. | ||
| And the other thing they do is they turn everything into a race analog. | ||
| So whenever someone's doing something that we broadly accept is not good, they try to claim that the people doing said thing were born with a proclivity for that thing, so that any criticism of them is actually a criticism of their immutable characteristics, which they had at birth, which is essentially something that they do so that they can find a way to recapture the civil rights era nostalgia and play with the framing of, these are just people who were born this way and you hate them for characteristics they can't control. | ||
| It's a big part of why I criticize behavior and not the person themselves, which is why I criticize pedophilia and not the pedophile. | ||
| I mean, I will criticize the pedophile, but I focus on the behavior because if you go at the person, they're just going to tell you, hey, don't blame me for who I am. | ||
| So I really focus on behavior. | ||
| Well, but I think focusing on the behavior is why we should say that behavior is awful, we gotta lock them up, rather than, like, we have to understand this person and, like, why they're doing this. | ||
| Say that again? | ||
| If you want to redirect someone's moral structure, don't go at them and their doing. | ||
| Go at the behavior itself. | ||
| But I think that conflicts with what you've just said about focusing on the behavior, not the person. | ||
| Like I think- If you want to redirect someone's moral structure, | ||
| don't go at them and their doing, go at the behavior itself. | ||
| Put it out there so that they can look at it with you. | ||
| Well, I think it's also important to help people understand like when you do something, | ||
| it's proper to label you with that thing. | ||
| And then ideally people like don't want a horrible label. | ||
| And then they don't, I'm not saying that's the only factor. | ||
| Like, oh, if we tell someone that this thing is bad, they won't want to do it. | ||
| But we're also in a culture where we say things like, just because somebody did something once, | ||
| like doesn't mean that's who they are. | ||
| That can be true, depending on how heinous the thing is, like, you can... if you stole something once, that's wrong. | ||
| I don't think you're a thief forever, right? | ||
| You can repent, and you can repent of anything, to be fair, and... Well, that's the... that's the... | ||
| Catholic way. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And that said, of course, if you've committed a heinous crime, you still have to turn yourself in, you still have to do your time, you still have to stay away from children, these people should still be locked up forever, even if they can be forgiven by God, right? | ||
| But my greater point with this is, when someone does something repeatedly, they're engaging in it, it's habitual, we still don't feel comfortable saying that this is something that it's appropriate for society to label this person as. | ||
| Like, I don't know, I think if you're stealing something, I think if you're stealing things all the time, it's okay to call you a thief. | ||
| Like, I think it is okay to let people know that they're actually come to define it. There's also a thing too though where | ||
| just because you do bad things doesn't mean you can't point out that other people | ||
| do bad things. That's also very true. You know, I mean, that is a, you know, | ||
| Jesus does talk about this, what is it, this, the plank in your own eye before you remove it. The | ||
| wood beam, yeah, in your own eye. The splinter from the others. But I do think that we can say like, and the way | ||
| that you can say that, the way that you can say you're doing a bad thing is you can say these are the appropriate | ||
| values, This is the appropriate way to behave. | ||
| We all make mistakes still behave this way, even though we're all going to screw up, you know, so it's not about like pointing fingers, but it is about establishing and maintaining a morality in society and we used to have that. | ||
| Yeah, and we have completely dispensed with a collective understanding of right and wrong. | ||
| It's like all the global moralities have meshed into this weird thing. | ||
| Do you think part of it is that phrase, live and let live? | ||
| I think that has a conservative thing, too, because the idea is you're not going to just go around criticizing everyone. | ||
| Everyone's just going to do their own thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I understand the fear of, like, forcing your way of life out of someone because you want to maintain freedom, but I do think that without a collective understanding of values, it's impossible to maintain a society. | ||
| We also have, like, a civil religion where we would all behave in the appropriate way and we wouldn't cross those lines. | ||
| You wouldn't go over to your neighbor's house and take their child. | ||
| Yeah, hopefully not. | ||
| Now people call CPS because they see your kid walking home from school by themselves. | ||
| Someone told me this story that she heard on a podcast of someone who had been like an RA in college. | ||
| You know, everything's going fine. | ||
| And then this one girl comes to her and is crying. | ||
| And she's like, I just found out that my roommate, you know, it's like into the second semester, my roommate's been using my toothbrush. | ||
| And is obviously super grossed out and upset. | ||
| Who behaves this way? | ||
| And apparently when they talked to the girl, the other girl was like, my family all shares a toothbrush. | ||
| Like, I didn't realize that wasn't something I was supposed to do. | ||
| Which I think that's crazy. | ||
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| Now, are you sure, like, this is, you hear stories like this and you're like, it is okay to force your beliefs on other people. | ||
| A whole family shouldn't use the same toothbrush. | ||
| That's my thing! | ||
| Then that's okay. | ||
| I feel like it's okay to be like, no, we all collectively, everyone gets their own toothbrush. | ||
| We reject this idea. | ||
| That's very communist of you. | ||
| That is, I guess. | ||
| It's actually capitalist. | ||
| The communists would say it's our toothbrush. | ||
| I'm propped up by the big dental corporations. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| I guess there's, like, the, uh, morality is essentially subjective to the culture of which it's built, but, or, or Brent, but you've got the, the Ten Commandments. | ||
| Like, there's some moralities, like, don't kill people, because if you did that, everyone would be gone. | ||
| You'd lose everybody, so you can't, and that's not even a moral thing, it's just, like, a structurally functional thing. | ||
| I don't want to waste time on it. | ||
| It's all of the above. | ||
| It's moral. | ||
| It's functional. | ||
| But AJ Cooke, what do you want to say, Samantha Clare? | ||
| Did you super chat it? | ||
| If you want to say something, super chat it and I'll read it, all right? | ||
| I think we should move on to Brimcast. | ||
| I'm tired of Brimcast. | ||
| Brimcast is happening. | ||
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No! | |
| Only nine words, you guys. | ||
| Take the headphones off. | ||
| Get out of the table. | ||
| We'll see how this goes. | ||
| No, I was just gonna say, this toothbrush story really weirds me out. | ||
| I've been thinking about it for days. | ||
| What a violation to find out someone that you, like, are not, like, you don't know this girl in your dorm has been using your toothbrush. | ||
| And I find this to be, like, such a good example of why it's important to have common values and understanding of what's appropriate and what's not. | ||
| That's a boundaries situation. | ||
| That's like a weird thing. | ||
| Boundaries can be part of this. | ||
| I would suspect there are probably other boundaries that have not been properly placed in that family if they're all using the same toothbrush. | ||
| That's just my speculation that I think maybe these are people who don't have a healthy sense. | ||
| I was thinking the underwear thing, too. | ||
| Like, are they sharing underwear? | ||
| Are they sharing forks? | ||
| And what did this girl do when she went to sleepovers with her friends? | ||
| She was just like... Do you guys wash laundry with other people in your household? | ||
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I mean, maybe with your kids you would, but like... I put all the laundry in the same pile, yeah. | |
| Cause the smells, you know, it's like, are you going to take that leap? | ||
| Cause once you go in, you're like, you're never coming back. | ||
| It's a commitment level. | ||
| It's like, do you mix your books when you like get married? | ||
| I want to, um, big, uh, trust ball. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Thank you guys. | ||
| Uh, AJ cook says, Hey Libby, this one's for you. | ||
| Oh wow, I get a super chat. | ||
| The super chat wants to talk to you. He's saying, Hey Libby, you saw that Noah Berlatsky did a negative | ||
| review of SOF. | ||
| I ran across your old Postmillennial article on him while doing my write-up for Valiant News. | ||
| I've been a fan of yours since I first read it years ago. | ||
| Keep on fighting. | ||
| Oh, thanks. | ||
| What's SOF? | ||
| I appreciate it. | ||
| Sound of Freedom. | ||
| Yeah, I wrote that piece this morning after I read the Bloomberg, and I'd been writing on Berlaski a couple of times, actually. | ||
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Who is this? | |
| Because I did find it shocking. | ||
| I found it shocking that an organization exists to support pedophiles. | ||
| I found that really surprising. | ||
| That's a boundary for you. | ||
| You're against it. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| I thought that that was just a little too much, you know? | ||
| I just thought that was too much. | ||
| It's a collective toothbrush right there. | ||
| Yeah, supporting pedophiles and supporting pedophilia are different. | ||
| I understand that, you know, I can understand how you can see that there is a difference there. | ||
| And, you know, basically I am now so, what is it, probably conditioned by online fact checkers that I try and be as precise as possible. | ||
| But I do think that if you're supporting pedophiles, you're supporting their actions and you're supporting pedophilia. | ||
| Well, because the left absolutely detests the logic that you love the sinner and hate the sin. | ||
| So whenever they start saying, oh, we like these people who have this proclivity, given the left-wing framework, that always means you affirm their actions, right? | ||
| And you have to love the sin as well. | ||
| Exactly, that's what I'm saying. | ||
| The left-wing narrative is that it is not possible to truly love somebody and disagree with their actions or disagree with the things they're inclined to do. | ||
| So when they say, oh no no no, we just want to help pedophiles, we just like pedophiles, not pedophilia, wrong, because every single time you say you like a group, what you're saying is we like their behavior and how dare you criticize it. | ||
| Unless it's a conservative in your family, in which case you're supposed to shun them at Thanksgiving and throw your wine in their face. | ||
| But that's my point, there's no distinction on the left. | ||
| There's buckos in the house. | ||
| He's hanging out. | ||
| He's coming to you. | ||
| It's just interesting, like, the left is never ever able to distinguish between people and behavior. | ||
| If you're a conservative, you have conservative views, you're an evil, horrible person. | ||
| If you're somebody who has an inclination towards homosexual behavior, well, that means you have to engage in homosexual behavior. | ||
| And if I dislike that homosexual behavior, that means I hate you. | ||
| So conservatives hate them. | ||
| So when they start saying, Oh, no, no, no. | ||
| We're not saying we support pedophilia because we support pedophiles. | ||
| B.S. | ||
| That's not how they view proclivities or what it means to love or care for someone in any other context, so I don't buy it here. | ||
| I think when I- I don't buy it here. | ||
| If I were to say, like, I support murderers, I don't- that wouldn't mean that I- You don't say that! | ||
| Yeah, I wouldn't say it personally, but if I was trying to truly support someone that had murdered, it would be to be an emotional support structure for them to find love so that they never murder again. | ||
| That's real support. | ||
| Not, yeah, you go do whatever you do. | ||
| It's like blind... I'm not blindly encouraging them to do things. | ||
| Real, true, you know, love. | ||
| Bucko's coming in to check on us. | ||
| So it's good to see our little lad in here. | ||
| But we're gonna take it over to the after show, which will be... Wait, can I pimp the Postmillennial first? | ||
| Yeah, give me a second. | ||
| I'm sorry, are you hosting a show right now? | ||
| Sorry, does Emin's cast? | ||
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My goodness! | |
| Let's do that one, let's do that one. | ||
| We're going to take it to the after show, alright, at 10, 10 o'clock, around 10, 10. | ||
| We're going to be having the members show. | ||
| You guys will be able to call in and ask your questions, so go over there and check it out. | ||
| And hey, Libby, is there anything you wanted to shout out? | ||
| There is. | ||
| Listen, if I don't shout out The Postmillennial, I hear about it. | ||
| Do you know that? | ||
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I hear about it. | |
| Look, I wasn't going to deprive you the opportunity. | ||
| I got to shout it out on War Room this morning. | ||
| That was fun, too. | ||
| Hey, tell us about The Postmillennial. | ||
| I am now shouting out The Postmillennial. | ||
| Check out ThePostmillennial.com. | ||
| You can subscribe to The Postmillennial at ThePostmillennial.com slash subscribe. | ||
| Also check out Human Events, where I'm working with Jack Posobiec and Charlie Kirk, a whole bunch of other great people. | ||
| And you can find me on Twitter at Libby Emmons. | ||
| Wonderful, thank you. | ||
| Thank you, Seamus. | ||
| I appreciate it so much. | ||
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Of course. | |
| Yeah, no, I was happy to have you on my show. | ||
| I have loved being on your show. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| I'm glad you stopped by. | ||
| Me too. | ||
| I'm glad you stopped by. | ||
| Hannah Clare? | ||
| Hi, I'm Hannah Clare Brimlow. | ||
| I'm a writer for TimCast.com. | ||
| You should go to TimCast.com, click on the read tab, see all the stuff from us, from me, our other journalists. | ||
| Follow at TimCastNews on Twitter and Instagram. | ||
| It's the best, although I'm also a fan of Post Millennial. | ||
| If you want to follow me personally, you can find me on Instagram at HannahClare.B. | ||
| And on Twitter, at hcbrimlow. | ||
| Excellent night one, Seamus. | ||
| Round of applause. | ||
| Thank you, thank you. | ||
| We're gonna have ShimCast all week. | ||
| Ian, you wanna shout anything out? | ||
| Bucko's drinking the water out of my cup. | ||
| Out of my hand, I love him. | ||
| That is so sweet. | ||
| So, you guys, a few weeks ago, we were very afraid for Bucko because there was this, we didn't know at the time, we didn't put it together, but there was this giant cloud of, like, burning, uh, uh, benzene and, like, smoke coming from Canadian wildfires, and God knows, maybe East Palestine, but it was, he looked like he was gonna die. | ||
| Bucko was, like, gasping for air. | ||
| Everyone thought, this is it. | ||
| He's sick. | ||
| He's dead. | ||
| And so we freaked out, we took him to the vet, and the next day he was fine. | ||
| Like, the gas cloud passed and he livened back up. | ||
| So now, you know, we took him to the pharma, they're like, hey, well, we see he's got some issues, let's put him on all these, and we're like, I'm struggling with, do we use pharma? | ||
| Pharma wanted us to euthanize him. | ||
| He's obviously healthy, he's drinking water, hanging out with us, he sleeps well, he eats well. | ||
| I want to like, I truly believe he can heal. | ||
| He can rest. | ||
| I mean, nothing's perfect. | ||
| And obviously, we're all going to die someday, but I want to give this guy the best quality of life. | ||
| So support me and support Bucko and his longevity. | ||
| I'm going to go grab him before he pees. | ||
| Bye, everyone. | ||
| All right, Serge. | ||
| Yeah, we did it, I guess. | ||
| It's been a long week, but I'm Serge.com. | ||
| What was that? | ||
| We'll talk about it afterwards. | ||
| Yeah, it's all good. | ||
| All right. | ||
| All right, thank you all so much for watching. | ||
| I'm not just going to shout out Shimcast, I'm going to shout out Freedom Tunes. | ||
| Please go over there, subscribe, that's my YouTube channel. | ||
| Also, if you want to go to freedomtunes.com and become a member and support us there, you'll get an extra cartoon each week. | ||
| We're also working on getting a bunch of behind-the-scenes stuff up there, so help support independent artists who aren't woke. | ||
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