July 12, 2023 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Ron DeSantis donors are still on the phone with you. | |
| Ron DeSantis donors are set to meet with him to discuss the viability of his campaign at | ||
| As reported, this is a reporting coming out of Fox Business, they're concerned that his polls are lagging and they want to see some improvement. | ||
| And we're also hearing rumors that we have also somewhat corroborated, but keep in mind these are rumors, that a super PAC working for DeSantis is seeing people abandon the campaign. | ||
| So we're going to talk about that and where DeSantis currently is in the polls. | ||
| This is the big story that's been breaking all day, whether or not He's going, his campaign's gonna be viable. | ||
| I mean, it's still really, really early to say, but I think it's interesting considering what's going on politically. | ||
| And then we're gonna talk about, this one's fascinating, Ray Epps is suing Fox News. | ||
| Okay, that one's interesting. | ||
| I think discovery on that one will be very fascinating. | ||
| And then, of course, FBI Director Ray is getting grilled by members of Congress, and Matt Gaetz called him out for protecting the Biden family. | ||
| This one should get pretty interesting. | ||
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| So you don't miss it and as a member if you've been signed up for at least six months or you sign up the $25 per month level you can actually call into the show and ask us questions so it's gonna be a good one joining us tonight to talk about this and a whole lot more is Jamie Michelle Hi, great to be here. | ||
| Thanks for having me back. | ||
| I was here December, but it's been a while. | ||
| It's good to be on the show with you guys. | ||
| Who are you and what do you do? | ||
| I am the founder, president, CEO of the non-profit Gays Against Groomers. | ||
| We fight groomers from inside the community. | ||
| We are fighting the sexualization, indoctrination, and medicalization of youth Uh, that is being perpetrated under the guise of LGBTQIA+++++. | ||
| Uh, yeah. | ||
| Things are heating up in this war, but I think we're gonna win at the end, and I'm just excited to talk about it all. | ||
| Right on. | ||
| Well, thanks for joining us. | ||
| We got the whole ShimCast here. | ||
| My name's Seamus Coghlan. | ||
| I have a YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes. | ||
| We make animated cartoons. | ||
| We're gonna be releasing one tomorrow about, uh, the sound of freedom and the controversy surrounding that with certain activists and critics in Hollywood who aren't happy with the film, so I want to encourage you all to check that video out. | ||
| It's going to be a little bit spicy. | ||
| And if you want to support what I'm doing, go to freedomtunes.com and become a member. | ||
| And also, Sound of Freedom is number one. | ||
| Sound of Freedom is another story we're going to talk about. | ||
| As it should be. | ||
| It's crushing, and they deserve it. | ||
| I went out, Ian Crosland, what's up? | ||
| I went out, that took the last night off because I went to see Sound of Freedom. | ||
| It was awesome. | ||
| What's up, Brandon? | ||
| I saw you at the theater, good to see we didn't talk afterwards. | ||
| Wow, what a powerful movie. | ||
| I haven't seen it yet, but I'm really excited. | ||
| Me and my fiancé were supposed to see it last weekend, but things got really busy, but I've obviously only heard amazing things. | ||
| Yeah, I cried a couple times. | ||
| I'm sure it's going to absolutely destroy me. | ||
| I'm a little nervous for that, but it has to be seen! | ||
| In a good way. | ||
| It breaks you down and then builds you back up, kind of, as a new person. | ||
| It's so powerful. | ||
| It got me to look outside myself. | ||
| It's sad, though, because it's a true story, and there's a million other stories just like that happening right now. | ||
| Well, you know, all of this stuff. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| You're exactly right. | ||
| This is going on in the world today. | ||
| Human trafficking is a massive problem. | ||
| As the film points out, the United States of America is one of the largest consumers on the planet of basically slaves of this sort. | ||
| Wonder why they're trying to block the film. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, exactly. | ||
| Why is Hollywood so upset about this film? | ||
| We're gonna do it. | ||
| Yeah, we also got this man over to the right. | ||
| Yeah, I'm excited to see it too. | ||
| I'll be watching it tomorrow alone, Seamus, like I said, which is fine. | ||
| So we always see movies. | ||
| Yeah, I never see movies at all, so I'm excited to be in the theater. | ||
| Let's do this when you're ready, Tim. | ||
| But I do have an announcement to make, and I know a lot of you are going to be saddened to hear this, but it's all we could do. | ||
| This weekend I will be flying out of state because I have to get hip surgery. | ||
| I am a 37-year-old, lifelong skateboarder. | ||
| I've been skating for like 23 or so years, so I have a repetitive sports industry, presumably in the cartilage in my hip. | ||
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Injury. | |
| Injury. | ||
| What did I say? | ||
| Industry. | ||
| You did that earlier today, too. | ||
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I did. | |
| It's so weird. | ||
| Injury, and we don't know exactly what it is. | ||
| It may be a tear, but the idea is take care of it now so it doesn't get worse and you don't get a hair replacement, which means I'm gonna be gone for a week. | ||
| But I know it's gonna... I can't believe I have to do this to you guys. | ||
| You're going to get really mad. | ||
| You're going to get really mad. | ||
| People are going to be sending hate mail. | ||
| Seamus is going to be hosting the show. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| It's going to be the best week of TimCast, or should I say ShimCast, that you've ever seen. | ||
| We wish Tim well. | ||
| We wish Tim well. | ||
| By the way, you're welcome for agreeing to take over your podcast for a whole week and keep it going and ensure that things stay on the rails. | ||
| He insults me. | ||
| You accuse me of stealing your spoons. | ||
| You insult me in front of your audience after I agree to help you with your show. | ||
| Like, what am I doing here? | ||
| Did you return the spoons? | ||
| I didn't. | ||
| I don't agree with your framing. | ||
| I don't agree with your framing. | ||
| I don't appreciate it. | ||
| But I'll say this. | ||
| It does suck, you know, because I'm talking with the doctor, and the general issue is do this sporadic like do this randomly over the next several months where it's like I'll randomly take days off and it'll be very disruptive and hard to plan or just do one solid week where we get it all taken care of and then come back and it's done I don't got to deal with that ever again so it's it's soft tissue damage it's not going to heal on its own and fortunately there are advanced procedures for taking care of it so it's magnificent just means that I'll have to be like in the hospital for a week. | ||
| Who's going to look after the chickens? | ||
| I have to do everything. | ||
| I'm literally going to replace him while he's gone. | ||
| I'm going to be wearing a beanie. | ||
| I'm going to be able to do everything. | ||
| Yeah, just James. | ||
| All right, let's talk about the news. | ||
| Here's a story from CNBC. | ||
| DeSantis donors privately worry about campaign as Florida governor lags in 2024 polls. | ||
| They say some of Ron DeSantis' fundraisers have recently heard concerns from donors about the trajectory of his campaign. | ||
| The governor continues to lag Trump in GOP primary polls. | ||
| Ken Griffin, the billionaire CEO of Citadel and previous DeSantis mega donor, continues to assess the field. | ||
| A growing group of donors who have supported DeSantis' run are worried about the trajectory of his campaign even after he raked in $20 million. | ||
| Despite those big fundraising numbers and his entry into the race on a wave of hype, DeSantis is lagging well behind frontrunner Donald Trump. | ||
| Nothing's changed in Griffin's stance toward the election. | ||
| We have this from the Post Millennial. | ||
| They say, DeSantis to meet with major donors to face questions about campaign viability. | ||
| This is coming from Charles Gasparino of Fox Business. | ||
| Ron DeSantis is planning to meet major East Coast donors next week at a private gathering in Southampton. | ||
| He faces questions about viability of his campaign as he's stalled in the polls. | ||
| I hear he's planning to tell donors that he will play the long game. | ||
| And to just bring in the context in terms of data, the prediction markets now have Ron DeSantis dropping down to 19 cents to Donald Trump's 62 cents. | ||
| And this is big because DeSantis actually surpassed Trump at one point, but now continues to fall. | ||
| And the latest poll from Morning Consult shows, nationally, DeSantis is actually doing worse than Trump, though both Trump and DeSantis do lose to Joe Biden. | ||
| I'm not sure I believe that both of them will lose to Joe Biden. | ||
| But if we're talking about comparing Trump and DeSantis in the same metric to Biden, then it looks like Trump is still ahead of Ron DeSantis, and DeSantis has been dropping in the polls. | ||
| So, I don't know what you guys think. | ||
| It is still really, really early. | ||
| Really early. | ||
| Really early. | ||
| Really, really early. | ||
| It's like six weeks into the campaign, right? | ||
| I mean, he launched like, what, six? | ||
| Not even? | ||
| Really? | ||
| It feels like it's been going on for a long time. | ||
| That's what I'm saying, it's like a week in politics is like a freaking year, you know? | ||
| That's also true, but I think especially like a week with respect to his campaign, things have gone so south in so many ways. | ||
| There's a lot about DeSantis, and I've said this before, there's a lot about him I like, I think, and there's even people on his campaign who I know and like, but I think some of the people making decisions there could have been more wisely chosen. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I don't know anything about the people there. | ||
| No, I'm just saying with respect to how his campaign is acted. | ||
| I'm saying I think there have been a lot of blunders. | ||
| I understand that. | ||
| And I, you know, whatever, whoever has a team around them, like whatever candidate has a team, I don't think that that's reflective of the way that the actual candidate could lead. | ||
| I'm still, like, super pro-DeSantis. | ||
| I think it is incredibly early. | ||
| I'm pro-DeSantis for many reasons. | ||
| I choose him over Trump for many, many reasons, and we can get into that if you guys are interested. | ||
| But I think it's incredibly early, and yeah, I don't think things have really even gotten started. | ||
| I mean, we have the debates in August, we have this new town hall coming up with Tucker, and I think he's going to get the message out there. | ||
| What's the town hall of Tucker? | ||
| I think it was just announced that Tucker's hosting a town hall. | ||
| I don't think it's a debate. | ||
| It's a town hall with all of the Republican candidates except for Donald Trump. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| He's not going. | ||
| Trump's pulling a Biden. | ||
| Trump is running from the basement. | ||
| Yeah, so I think that there have been a number of strategic blunders from the DeSantis campaign. | ||
| You are correct that it's very early. | ||
| It's like eight months away. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| We have quite a lot of time. | ||
| I do think that the DeSantis campaign is probably going to have to rethink some of what they're doing and we'll see how this meeting with the donors go, but yeah, it's going to be a little while before we can definitively say this person is more or less likely to get the nomination. | ||
| I've got a projection. | ||
| I think that Ron is not going to be able to match Vivek's energy, and by the time three, four months from now, those numbers will be flipped. | ||
| I don't know if this is actually going to happen, but those numbers will be flipped. | ||
| No, Vivek just jumped again. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| Vivek is at ten cents in the prediction markets. | ||
| That's up from nine from like five seconds, one minute ago. | ||
| From about ten minutes ago, it was at nine. | ||
| It's jumped up again. | ||
| And within the past, Vivek has only been a viable contract on PredictIt for about a week and a half. | ||
| Let's just say two weeks, to be fair. | ||
| And now he's up to ten cents from three. | ||
| I think the thing about Vivek is that he doesn't have anything behind him in terms of notability. | ||
| And I'm not saying that career-wise. | ||
| Obviously, he's worth half a billion dollars, runs this big pharmaceutical company. | ||
| What I mean is, Ron DeSantis has been in the limelight for years, and has a proven track record out of Florida. | ||
| Vivek has the words he can say. | ||
| People like what he's saying. | ||
| And he is masterfully tactful in terms of PR. | ||
| I think that's gonna help Vivek. | ||
| I gotta be honest though, as much as I like Vivek and think he's the smartest guy in the room, In terms of capability, I will say this. | ||
| I put Vivek over Trump and DeSantis. | ||
| In terms of electability, it's Trump-DeSantis-Vivek. | ||
| Like, Vivek is great, but even Ron DeSantis, I think, is more viable of a candidate than he is. | ||
| It's true, I think you're right. | ||
| And a lot of times when I play video games and I'm like, I get to select who the leader is going to be among all of my generals, I'll take the one with the best stats, not necessarily the most. | ||
| Most famous one. | ||
| But in reality, it's a popularity contest. | ||
| So the famous person gets into the power. | ||
| But when you put the best person in control, even if there are nobody, you get the best results. | ||
| I gotta be completely honest. | ||
| I have not heard a single thing from his campaign. | ||
| Like I haven't seen any tweets. | ||
| I mean, I don't even I may follow him. | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| Yeah, I've heard and seen nothing. | ||
| You're in a bubble. | ||
| No, I'm not in a bubble! | ||
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I'm very involved in... I actually hear what you're saying. | |
| I mean, you know, I'm not tapped into different news sites like you are, but like, I'm part of the conversation and the dialogue and I'm not, you know, I follow a lot of people, diverse people that... But I think you make a good point, too. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| The vague has not broken out into this space. | ||
| So I don't literally mean you're in a bubble, the vague is not there yet. | ||
| I've seen, exactly, and I agree with you, I've seen a lot of clips of him floating around, I've seen different public statements he's made, I haven't noticed anything specifically from his campaign. | ||
| I saw him give the speech in Miami when Trump was getting indicted. | ||
| He went down and he was speaking at a podium and that's the last I saw of him. | ||
| So I think he's sucking up to Trump a little. | ||
| Are you kidding? | ||
| He's a hardcore Trumper. | ||
| Yeah, I've interviewed him multiple times. | ||
| I mean, I'm saying perception-wise, from the outside, that's, I mean, he literally went down to Miami and gave a huge speech, like, you know, in support of Trump. | ||
| Yeah, because of the false indictments? | ||
| Yeah, I think it's a little bit different from being a Trumper, though, right? | ||
| I agree, I agree, but I think, you know, he continuously praises Trump. | ||
| I mean, because he understands that you can't lose that base, right? | ||
| Or he's scared of it. | ||
| He's scared to lose the cult base. | ||
| I think that's unavoidable. | ||
| The Magidonians. | ||
| I think that's unwarranted. | ||
| Vivek is, in my view, the most honest guy running. | ||
| Yeah, I think so too. | ||
| Vivek outright said he thinks there should be civic requirements for voting. | ||
| And he's sitting here in this room and he's like, man, they're gonna get mad at me if I say this, but I'm gonna say it because we need to. | ||
| There's got to be some restriction, some requirement for civic duty. | ||
| I think that's a brilliant idea. | ||
| I actually do. | ||
| And who's got the balls to actually say it? | ||
| So what he did then was he came out and said, okay, refined my ideas. | ||
| I think young people should pass a civics test if they want to vote. | ||
| And it's just like, wow. | ||
| That's a bold thing to say. | ||
| Who writes the test? | ||
| I think you might have asked him that question. | ||
| Oh, yeah, right. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| You just kind of came to an impasse. | ||
| That's why I think signing up for the Selective Service was like the smart compromise. | ||
| Men and women have the option to do it. | ||
| If you don't sign up, you don't vote. | ||
| If you do sign up, you can vote, but that makes you eligible for the draft. | ||
| The draft almost never happens, or it's not likely to happen, so it's like, it's a clever workaround. | ||
| But that is just one issue, where if you actually watch him give talks and speeches and stuff, He won't run away from questions. | ||
| Yeah, but who actually watches him? | ||
| I don't see him anywhere. | ||
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He's got a YouTube channel. | |
| I'm saying that he has some good ideas. | ||
| I'm not knocking that at all. | ||
| I'm just saying. | ||
| To think that he's a serious candidate right now in this race is silly. | ||
| Third place. | ||
| Yeah, but come on now. | ||
| Vivek Ramaswamy on YouTube. | ||
| He's holding third place as well. | ||
| And like I said, you know, it is super early. | ||
| We have no idea what the primary is going to look like in a month, two months. | ||
| I think Ted Cruz won like the first battleground state in the 2016 primaries or whatever. | ||
| Like Ted Cruz won some state or something. | ||
| And then everyone was like, oh, Trump ended up turning things around. | ||
| I think with Vivek that the global economic order is very concerned about him getting into power because he's straight up like, we're not investing in BlackRock anymore. | ||
| We're taking our money and we're investing in American indexes. | ||
| We're going to get away from ESG. | ||
| We're going to take control of our financial system. | ||
| And that's like the main force of control of the global technocrats is the financial system. | ||
| They want central bank digital currencies and they want to be able to turn your bank account off if you don't, if you want to buy things they don't want you to buy. | ||
| If you say something they don't want you to say. | ||
| They did it with the Canadian truckers and I think Vivek is, he's so smart and he knows when to talk and when not to talk. | ||
| That being said, I think that's a big part of the reason why the media hasn't propped him up at all. | ||
| They haven't propped up really any of the Republican candidates. | ||
| I think they're propping Trump up. | ||
| You think so? | ||
| Well, I think liberal media, I think that the... I mean, this is a little conspiratorial, but it's my theory. | ||
| I think that they are prosecuting him right now to bump his numbers up because they want him to be the nominee. | ||
| The Democrats desperately want Trump to be the nominee, and they say it all the time. | ||
| There were just some clips that went out on, I think it was MSNBC, where they're saying, you know, they want Trump to be the nominee. | ||
| They're salivating over it. | ||
| I think it was Whoopi Goldberg said that on The View. | ||
| She was like, we don't want DeSantis. | ||
| We can beat Trump. | ||
| We don't want DeSantis. | ||
| Of course they can, yeah. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| With that Georgia Democrat who just defected and joined the GOP? | ||
| The Clinton campaign engaged in the Pied Piper strategy. | ||
| They wanted Trump to be the nominee, but then look how that worked out for them. Right. Yeah. I | ||
| agree. But they're much more scared of DeSantis at this point. I don't think so. With | ||
| that Georgia Democrat who just defected and joined the GOP. Yeah, good for her. Yeah. I don't | ||
| believe them when they're like, or I don't believe they're correct when they're like, we should have | ||
| Donald Trump because we can beat him, but we can't beat DeSantis. | ||
| I mean, okay, we like, look, it's 50-50 right now. | ||
| Trump lost 2020, he won 2016. | ||
| I'm not convinced the Pied Piper strategy is their path forward. | ||
| And all of his endorsed candidates, not all, but most of them, the big ones lost in the midterms. | ||
| I mean, we're on a loop. | ||
| Huh? | ||
| Who? | ||
| In the midterms. | ||
| Most of Trump's candidates? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Which candidates? | ||
| I mean, Herschel, Oz, Lake. | ||
| You know, off the top of my head, those are the biggest. | ||
| What was the actual number? | ||
| The Carrie Lake thing was a travesty. | ||
| I mean, yeah, but I'm just saying, like, we're on a serious losing streak with this Trump guy. | ||
| What do you think about Robert F. Kennedy leading things? | ||
| RFK Jr., what do you think? | ||
| I think he's, you know, I think it's interesting. | ||
| I love that he's giving the- 82% success rate. | ||
| 82% of Trump's endorsed candidates won. | ||
| Okay, and we lost everything at the end of the day. | ||
| We lost the major seats that were the most important to gain, you know. | ||
| I think that was a failure of messaging on the part of the Republican Party. | ||
| I'm just directly addressing what you said about Trump's endorsements. | ||
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82%. | |
| That's fine, but at the same time, the major ones that he put the most effort into, that he campaigned with, that he pushed the hardest, you know, the big national names, the national recognition. | ||
| He screwed up with odds. | ||
| That was a big mistake. | ||
| I have no idea why he'd make that big of a mistake. | ||
| It should have been Kathy Barnett. | ||
| I mean, she was absolutely incredible. | ||
| And I mean, this is the thing. | ||
| Trump continues to, you know, he says he's going to drain the swamp, but then he, he, I mean, Lindsey Graham, let's hear how you hear about how you feel about this. | ||
| Lindsey Graham on stage with him in South Carolina, you know, he got booed a million times, but, but how is Trump going to drain the swamp when he's best friends with the swamp? | ||
| He hired the swamp. | ||
| He's going to continue to do that. | ||
| I guess we vote RFK then, huh? | ||
| Yeah, I'm going to. | ||
| I will. | ||
| I'll register as a Democrat. | ||
| I want to hear an answer to that, though. | ||
| I want to hear an answer to that. | ||
| How is Trump going to drain the swamp when he is best friends with the swamp? | ||
| If DeSantis got on a stage with Lindsey Graham and Lindsey Graham opened for DeSantis, what would happen? | ||
| What would the Trump people online say? | ||
| I don't think you should go down this route because DeSantis is funded by Griffin. | ||
| I'm literally saying if you're gonna if you're gonna ask questions about Trump being started by bad people, which I agree with, the same is true for DeSantis and my point being Vivek Ramaswamy must be our guy. | ||
| Okay, no, but I'm trying to say like, what is it? | ||
| How do people think that Trump is the anti-establishment candidate when he literally is campaigning with Lindsey Graham like a week ago? | ||
| I don't even remember what it was. | ||
| No, that's not it. | ||
| Trump has made a lot of mistakes, and I'll acknowledge them, but what I would say is that as far as the candidates go right now, Trump has the largest incentive to be the most anti-establishment candidate possible because of what the deep state and three-letter agencies did to him. | ||
| They did it while he was president, too, though. | ||
| No, that's my point. | ||
| Yes, that is when they did what they did, and now he's pretty substantially angry about what they did. | ||
| Of course they did it while he was president. | ||
| Right, but he still- And he was also concerned about re-election and he also had weights around his ankles because of what the deep state was doing to him. | ||
| So yes, that did limit his ability to act. | ||
| Yeah, Trump's first term was- I mean, nothing is ever his fault, I know. | ||
| That's not what I said. | ||
| No, but you're strawmanning me because I specifically said he's made mistakes. | ||
| No, and I understand that. | ||
| But I'm saying there's reason to believe that he would be interested in fighting the deep state considering what they've done to his family. | ||
| I'm sure he is interested. | ||
| But then why is he campaigning with Lindsey Graham? | ||
| What the hell is that? | ||
| You can't have it both ways! | ||
| Yeah, that's really bad. | ||
| He shouldn't do that. | ||
| Lindsey Graham is disgusting! | ||
| I'll say that, and I've said this before, I think people he's chosen to surround himself with have not been great picks. | ||
| But I'm saying in terms of the drive and the interest in draining the swamp and going after these agencies, I think Trump has the strongest incentive. | ||
| I'm not saying there's no credibility to that criticism, by the way. | ||
| I think Trump has historically made a lot of mistakes with respect to the people he's surrounded himself with. | ||
| I think he has more of a drive to destroy the deep state, and I do think he has what it takes, but we'll see. | ||
| I don't know if that's necessarily true, that being wronged makes Straight up the best incentive. | ||
| Anger is the best incentive. | ||
| Because I think Ron DeSantis, the incentive to make a better country could be equally as strong as the incentive of, like, they hurt me, I want to hurt them back. | ||
| But it's all of it, right? | ||
| Because they're both good motivations. | ||
| Now, part of the advantage of another Trump presidency is that he would not have to worry about re-election, which is also a massive, massive asset. | ||
| Wait, say that again? | ||
| He would not have to worry about re-election, which is a massive asset. | ||
| That's super detrimental to us as a party, though. | ||
| No, but he would go after all the people he needed to go after. | ||
| I would prefer to have somebody in the White House that could fulfill eight years, so we're not doing this again and risking the White House again in another four years. | ||
| But you have to, or otherwise it's an election. | ||
| Trump can't run again though, like the incumbent. | ||
| So then Iran can run in for you. | ||
| Iran should run right now. | ||
| Or, I mean, why would Ron and Don not run as president-vice-presidents? | ||
| Let's pull this up. | ||
| We got this from NBC News. | ||
| Ron DeSantis says he wouldn't be Trump's running mate. | ||
| I'm not a number two guy. | ||
| You can be though, and then you'd be the number one guy. | ||
| And then it was Trump's campaign said he's not anybody's guy. | ||
| I think that was Stephen Chung who said that. | ||
| That's so pointless. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, look, the argument is Donald Trump did, like, a C-plus job in a lot of areas in his first term. | ||
| He didn't drain the swamp. | ||
| He fired some people. | ||
| He hired some really bad people. | ||
| But foreign policy-wise, I think Trump did a very, very good job, especially with the Abraham Accords, with trying to get our troops out of Syria, crushing ISIS. | ||
| Those things are really great. | ||
| And then the argument now is, if we're looking at these two guys, Ron DeSantis and Donald Trump, There's one thing that I care about the most. | ||
| I think foreign policy-wise, it's hard to know for sure, Ron DeSantis has some experience in foreign policy, Donald Trump has good foreign policy, not perfect foreign policy, but better than Obama, better than Biden, better than whatever the Democrats have to offer. | ||
| The question I have is, who is more likely to fire people? | ||
| Donald Trump. | ||
| Even if it's only by 1%. | ||
| Because he wants revenge. | ||
| And the shift, which has become obvious to me, is that when asked about the greatest threat the country faces, Trump said it's not China, which is a marked shift from where he was in his first and second campaigns. | ||
| He said it's within this country, referring to bureaucrats working for government who can't be fired. | ||
| So one of the things Trump did near the end of his term, which he, which was reversed | ||
| by the Democrats, by Joe Biden, was the schedule F attempt. | ||
| You can't just fire federal employees. | ||
| They're protected. | ||
| It's very difficult. | ||
| So Trump was trying to strip away at those protections to try and start getting some | ||
| of these people fired. | ||
| I think Ron DeSantis, because for a few reasons, it'll be his first term if he does get elected | ||
| and he is being backed by some prominent establishment figures, is more likely to say, let's negotiate | ||
| and figure out how we don't go to war with each other. | ||
| I won't go around firing and destroying everything, but you guys let me get some of these policies through. | ||
| Donald Trump is more likely to go in and say, I will fire everyone, I will nuke all of these bureaucrats and agencies. | ||
| I would rather Donald Trump go in and fire and clean house, and then four years from now, be it DeSantis or whoever else, Ramaswamy, or, you know, maybe some other libertarian. | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| Someone can then come in without these bureaucratic, permanent government individuals who have been in government for 30 years without being elected. | ||
| Those people have to be fired. | ||
| Can I ask a question? | ||
| Why didn't he do it the first time? | ||
| Trump was trying to negotiate. | ||
| It was a- It sounds like an excuse. | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| Give me an argument. | ||
| I'm just saying, like, you know, there's always a reason why, there's an excuse for why Trump wasn't able to do something in his first term. | ||
| It's literally the explanation of what Trump was doing. | ||
| Trump talked to Sheldon Adelstein, he gets these big donors, and they're like, listen, we're gonna let you do your thing, but you gotta play ball with us. | ||
| And Trump says, you got it, boss. | ||
| And then what ends up happening? | ||
| John Bolton garbage. | ||
| That's what Ron DeSantis is doing right now with Ken Griffin. | ||
| So my argument is, Donald Trump made a big mistake with these morons that Ron DeSantis is doing right now. | ||
| Trump is pissed off they screwed him over and stabbed him in the back and is more likely, even if it is only 2%, to go in and try to fire these people and just gut them from the system, whereas I see DeSantis once again meeting with big neocon donors and playing the game that Trump was playing first time around. | ||
| Trump was funded by Big Pharma. | ||
| I mean, they donated to his campaign. | ||
| You betcha. | ||
| You know, so it's like... You're making my argument. | ||
| That's my point. | ||
| Right, so I don't know who these establishment people are. | ||
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Ken Griffin? | |
| Okay. | ||
| Everybody says that DeSantis is endorsed by Paul Ryan and he's Jeb Bush 2.0 and all this stuff and I see absolutely zero evidence when really- Well, the Jeb Bush thing is dumb. | ||
| I mean, the whole thing is absolutely stupid. | ||
| Trump endorsed Paul Ryan. | ||
| Trump endorsed John McCain. | ||
| I mean- Yes. | ||
| I don't understand how they can use that was tax against eight years ago. | ||
| Okay, I think that was bad. | ||
| And I did not vote for Trump in 2016. | ||
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Good. | |
| I mean, and so now I and that's the thing I want to I want to stress for people that don't know who I am or don't know my position. | ||
| I am a two time Trump voter. | ||
| I voted for him in 2016. | ||
| I voted for him in 2020. | ||
| Even though I was off the Trump train, you know, into the in the COVID years because he subsidized the presidency to Fauci. | ||
| And you do sound like a two timer Trump voter. | ||
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I was. | |
| You just said something I fully agree with. | ||
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I was. | |
| I was hardcore, too. | ||
| I ran a full amount. | ||
| No, I was making a two-timer. | ||
| I'm saying you betrayed it. | ||
| I was making a bad pun. | ||
| No, no, I got you. | ||
| I got you. | ||
| If Trump were to go in and fire all these people... It's okay to change your support. | ||
| You don't have to stay. | ||
| I'm giving you a hard time. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| Who would he replace them with is my concern because he did not make good personnel choice. | ||
| Say it again so I don't miss it. | ||
| If he went in and were to fire a bunch of people, who would he replace them with? | ||
| Trump? | ||
| Yeah, I don't have faith in him. | ||
| I think that he failed in his first term by giving the country away to the medical industry in the last year. | ||
| Jared Kushner? | ||
| And that's another conversation completely. | ||
| His family. | ||
| What are you doing giving your family power, bro? | ||
| I mean, I voted for Trump, not Jared Kushner, not Fauci. | ||
| And that's who I got. | ||
| I don't want nepotism in the White House. | ||
| It's disgusting. | ||
| I want talented, well-situated people that can do their job really, really well that may not even know each other. | ||
| That's what I want. | ||
| And I got a man that went on a vaccine tour for the last year and a half in office, pushing an experimental clot shot. | ||
| Sorry, I don't know if I can say that on YouTube. | ||
| Well, it was experimental. | ||
| It is experimental. | ||
| And to this day, one of the biggest reasons why I no longer support this man is because to this day, he goes and praises the damn vaccine and Operation Warp Speed, takes credit for all of it, says it's the greatest thing that ever happened to mankind. | ||
| I mean, one of them, you know, he's he said he saved 500 million people with it. | ||
| Or sorry, maybe it's 100 million. | ||
| I don't want to get Whatever, I'm just saying a gigantic amount of people, which is not true. | ||
| And he has yet to take responsibility for any of the adverse reactions. | ||
| He doesn't even acknowledge them. | ||
| And I think that's absolutely disgusting and I cannot support him. | ||
| And I understand that the argument is Ron DeSantis pushed it early on too, right? | ||
| Ron DeSantis at least can understand that that was wrong and has moved past it and is now fighting against it, you know? | ||
| So I just like, Trump has such a big ego that he cannot Take responsibility for anything he ever did wrong. | ||
| He just continues to double down and it's disgusting. | ||
| The issue I take with this, the first thing is I'll say is our obligatory just talk to a doctor about what is right for you and make sure you find a good and trustworthy doctor because they do exist. | ||
| I know I'm literally going to one next week because I got to get surgery or whatever. | ||
| But here's where I'm at politically, especially when it comes to like RFK. | ||
| I don't agree with him on a lot of the stuff he said, especially the EUA stuff on ivermectin and vaccines. | ||
| There's a lot of people who adamantly believe things because they choose to believe them and they think they're right about everything. | ||
| Whereas my positions are typically like, unless I see something to a great degree that provides confirmation, There's not much I can really say about it. | ||
| So, you know, we've had several debates on this show, I've debated several leftist individuals, and they'll ask me a direct question about something political, I'll be like, don't know. | ||
| Literally, I don't know, why don't you have a position on this? | ||
| When it comes to the VAX stuff, I don't know. | ||
| That's why I always, I'm just like, I don't know, talk to a doctor. | ||
| What I can say is Donald Trump refuses to back down from this as one of his major campaign victories. | ||
| What we do know is that there was a judge, I think it was in New York, who ruled that the vaccine does not prevent transmission of the virus. | ||
| And then later on, you end up with a bunch of news outlets claiming that was fake news. | ||
| This was a judge recently What is it? | ||
| The judge who gagged the Biden campaign on censorship is, I believe, the same judge who said that the vaccine was not preventing transmission. | ||
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So the vaccine was like... Yeah, the conspiracy theory is such a crazy conspiracy theory. | |
| But the media then said the inverse. | ||
| So my point is basically like, I see these conflicting and contradictory stories, And then I wonder why it is that people choose to take a stance on something that it's very difficult to understand, instead of just saying like, you know what, honestly, I don't know how you can draw a conclusion on this one. | ||
| I'll give you an example. | ||
| RFK talking about ivermectin. | ||
| I really, for the life of me, even after sitting with Joe Rogan, have never been able to figure out how anyone justifies their stance on ivermectin. | ||
| What did he say about ivermectin? | ||
| RFK said that the reason Ivermectin was never approved was because it would end the emergency use authorization for the vaccines, which is just logically inconsistent. | ||
| They granted the EUA to monoclonal antibodies. | ||
| If it were true that there were alternative treatments like Ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine, they literally could have just given it an EUA. | ||
| People then make a money argument, I think Alex and I was arguing this, that because Ivermectin is so cheap, they didn't want to give it an EUA, and I say, make that argument! | ||
| I'm not making that argument, I'm literally saying, for RFK Jr. | ||
| to come out and be like, that's the reason they didn't approve it, is because they wanted to sell vaccines, and they needed the EUA, I'm like, that doesn't make sense. | ||
| I hear this kind of stuff all the time and no one ever gives me a legitimate answer. | ||
| So we talk about the studies pertaining to ivermectin. | ||
| We talk about the studies. | ||
| Here's what I want to say about the vaccine, for instance. | ||
| My problem with the vaccine is nothing to do with whether or not anyone thinks it's good or bad. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I can only tell you make sure you trust your doctor and there's a good one. | ||
| And there are some good ones out there. | ||
| They're not super expensive. | ||
| You just got to go to the right places. | ||
| Get out of cities and you'll find good doctors. | ||
| But the issue here is Government mandates of medication. | ||
| I'm not going to sit here and make medical arguments. | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| Trump wants to tout this as a major success. | ||
| Trump also says the mandates were bad. | ||
| Ron DeSantis also says the mandates were bad. | ||
| What am I supposed to argue? | ||
| How am I supposed to have a conversation with someone when they make a definitive scientific statement on something that I can read all the studies? | ||
| And I'm just like, well, I literally have no idea. | ||
| I'm not a doctor. | ||
| I can mention, Just the News, for instance, reported there's more data coming out about people suffering from myocarditis, which is now confirmed for many of these vaccines. | ||
| There are concerns around, I think one was polled, I think Johnson & Johnson may have been polled, but ultimately, like, I am not making, again, YouTube, I'm not making any widespread claims about all the vaccines. | ||
| My point is, there is data coming out, but even with this, there is still the simple statistical argument that If you give, if you mandate, 400 million doses of a vaccine, don't be surprised if you get a thousand news stories about adverse events. | ||
| That does not mean there is a higher density of adverse events. | ||
| It does, however, suggest, to the libertarian point, the government should not be mandating medications to people, which is where I'm at. | ||
| Blaming Donald Trump for what Democrat governors did does nothing to convince me of why I should vote for Ron DeSantis. | ||
| I'm not. | ||
| That's not what I did at all. | ||
| I'm saying that he has never backed down. | ||
| He continues to praise Operation Warp Speed and rushing the vaccine. | ||
| Just a few days ago, or like, sorry, I am so bad with time. | ||
| Like, I don't know if it was a week ago, two weeks ago, yesterday. | ||
| That's just the present epoch. | ||
| Things move so quickly and so strangely, you never know. | ||
| I'll tell you exactly what my thoughts are on this. | ||
| I don't think you actually care. | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| one thing, let me just say one thing. | ||
| You know, he was just, again, saying how great it was. | ||
| He was saying it usually takes the FDA between five and 12 years, or nine and 12 years | ||
| to get this out, but he got it out in nine months. | ||
| That's what it was. | ||
| In nine months. | ||
| Isn't that, I mean, that's not something to brag about. | ||
| That's kind of bad. | ||
| This stuff should be tested longer. | ||
| This isn't, I'll tell you exactly what my thoughts are on this, I don't think you actually care. | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| It makes no sense for you to say these things to me because you've never, like. | ||
| I don't care? | ||
| Yeah, I don't think you care at all. | ||
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Really? | |
| Okay, because I think that my mom passed away because of it. | ||
| I'm sorry to hear about your mom. | ||
| I'm not trying to bring that into it, but like to say that I don't care about what the vaccine is doing to people. | ||
| I know people that were injured after taking this vaccine. | ||
| What do you mean I don't care? | ||
| This isn't just a political point against Trump. | ||
| This is serious. | ||
| When has anyone ever talked about the efficacy of testing criteria? | ||
| Okay, but this was rushed into society. | ||
| This was something that... So if your argument is authoritarianism and government mandates, I agree. | ||
| If your argument is the science was done wrong, I'm like, when has anyone ever known anything about how the science is supposed to be done? | ||
| But Trump rushing it and bragging that he rushed it without proper testing is a problem, and he continues to praise it and double down and say that he saved a hundred million people, when that's not true. | ||
| I just want him to take credit. | ||
| It would impress the hell out of me. | ||
| There's no factual basis points for anything you're saying. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I can't make a logical fact-based argument when you're saying things that aren't rooted in statistics. | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| Donald Trump says something hyperbolic and nonsensical. | ||
| Do you think it's rooted? | ||
| You then argue that his statement is factually untrue, but there's actually no data points one way or the other. | ||
| Okay, so do you think that it was a good thing to bypass the FDA, you know, their standard practices, | ||
| and rush out an experimental vaccine to be forced on people? | ||
| And I'm not saying he forced it. | ||
| I am not saying that. | ||
| I am saying, do you think it's a good idea to take credit for something and praise that this is something you did as one of the greatest achievements of mankind? | ||
| Seriously. | ||
| I don't know anything about scientific criteria, how things are done, so if someone comes to me and says, I've never researched this before in my life, I know literally nothing about how the labs operate, I know literally nothing about BSL-4 laboratories, therefore I think what Trump did was wrong because I all of a sudden have an opinion on something I've never researched before, I'm just like, okay. | ||
| This doesn't mean anything to me at all. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| If there is like, hey look, for most of our lives we've argued about whether or not, like | ||
| what is appropriate for children, we have moral standards as to what we teach kids, | ||
| and all of a sudden we're seeing an escalation in these people bringing these books into | ||
| schools. | ||
| Here's why I think it's wrong. | ||
| There is data suggesting that kids are, and then I'm like, oh I totally understand that. | ||
| Something we have all been a part of our whole lives is expansion of civil rights, arguments | ||
| about what the lines are, the debate 10 years ago where they said that if we legalize gay | ||
| marriage it's going to result in grooming, and then the left argued it wouldn't, and | ||
| now that it's happening, you've got conservatives saying, aha, this proves it, and I'm like, | ||
| I don't think it does. | ||
| This is like, over a long period of time, something directly impacting our lives has been the subject of major political debate, and we have opinions on it, and now we're correlating data points to suggest we think one thing is or isn't. | ||
| The vaccine stuff is, all of a sudden, one day, people had an opinion on a scientific issue they know nothing about. | ||
| There's arguments to be made about why the mandates are bad and why the government shouldn't have a role in mandating things, but when people come, like, people come to me and say, the science was done bad. | ||
| I'll be like, how should the science have been done? | ||
| It should have been done by these standards. | ||
| Have you, do you know anything about those standards? | ||
| Did anyone ever, like, I can't, I have nothing to say to that. | ||
| It's fine. | ||
| I'm not going to change your mind. | ||
| You're not going to change mine. | ||
| I'm just saying, in my opinion, that disgusts me about Donald Trump. | ||
| I'm not blaming him for the mandates. | ||
| I'm not blaming him for lockdowns. | ||
| I'm not doing any of that. | ||
| I am saying he subsidized the country to Fauci and he rushed the vaccine. | ||
| OK, whatever science you want to cite, I don't know. | ||
| That's how I feel. | ||
| And I think a lot of other people feel that way, too. | ||
| I know they do. | ||
| And I've always found it strange. | ||
| I find your position strange. | ||
| No offense. | ||
| My position is typically always like, if I don't know anything about this thing, I don't know what I'm supposed to say about it. | ||
| And I wonder why it is that people become so animated by something they've never been involved in before. | ||
| I can understand being upset about mandates. | ||
| The whole world was kind of brought into being involved in the vaccine when our lives were, | ||
| you know, threatened. | ||
| But that's government mandates. | ||
| I'm not relating that to Trump. | ||
| Not everything I say has to do with Trump. | ||
| I'm just saying, like, I'm not saying the mandates do. | ||
| It was also like fear campaigned by the media in a lot of ways. | ||
| And pharmaceuticals are making money. | ||
| And those things I all completely agree. | ||
| And Trump was funded by Big Pharma to bring him up again. | ||
| The government should not mandate medication, should not have the authority to do so, and there were a lot of people who resisted that. | ||
| That I totally understand. | ||
| But I don't understand how someone's going to try and make a scientific argument for which they don't know enough about to use as their moral position, when you will likely lose. | ||
| Now that being said, like, you know, that Hotez RFK debate is hilarious, that he wouldn't do it. | ||
| And I think he should. | ||
| And I actually disagree with RFK on a lot of stuff, as you can clearly hear me saying. | ||
| My issue is mainly, you have a very clear and obvious issue. | ||
| Government-mandated medication. | ||
| For some reason, the issue has been shifted away from that and towards the science was better. | ||
| You know what it was? | ||
| It was Anthony Fauci-mandated medication that was signed off on by Donald Trump. | ||
| Trump, I mean, there's an interview of Fauci saying that Trump never pushed back on him. | ||
| Trump never denied anything that Fauci recommended. | ||
| You know, that's why I say, literally, he subsidized the presidency to Fauci during this time. | ||
| Now, the origins of COVID, totally messed up. | ||
| I don't claim to know all that stuff. | ||
| I'm just saying, I voted for Donald Trump. | ||
| I got Fauci. | ||
| And I got an experimental vaccine, rushed, and I'm not blaming him for the mandates, as I said before, but I'm sorry, like, can you not take the position and just criticize Trump a little bit and say it's not a good look, it's not something he should do, to continuously praise it and say that he saved 100 million people and take credit for Operation Warp Speed, which Rush did. | ||
| These are opinions on issues of science I have no basis in. | ||
| I just watched this video from, we were watching a Flat Earther video downstairs, and it's really funny, like, I'm not trying to correlate people who have questions about vaccines with Flat Earthers. | ||
| I'm trying to make a point about specifically arguments that were made by some guy in the video not saying the same thing. | ||
| The issue was, the guy kept saying things that he clearly had no knowledge of, because of how he felt about them. | ||
| And I'm like, that's the only issue I take with it. | ||
| I've not measured the curvature of the Earth or anything like that, but it is strange to me when someone's like, you know, I've never had anything to do with any of this science before, I've never tested it, I've never studied it, but here's my thoughts on it and I feel strongly about it. | ||
| And to me, I'm just like, I find that very weird. | ||
| Like, I don't know how you have a position on something you've never experienced before, never researched before, you just heard repeated and all of a sudden you're like, I agree with it. | ||
| That's not true. | ||
| I didn't just hear it repeated. | ||
| But look, I don't want to spend the whole time talking about the vaccine. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| Can I just say one thing? | ||
| Firstly, of course, I'm very sorry for your loss. | ||
| That's horrible. | ||
| It was. | ||
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| Yeah, I'm really sorry. | ||
| And not even speaking to the medical science, I can't verify or confirm or deny any of the numbers you put out there about the jab, but I will say that I would agree with you that Trump's relationship with Fauci and the way he handled the lockdowns was probably one of, if not the greatest weak points of his administration. | ||
| Yeah, I mean that's really when my support for him started dwindling. | ||
| You know, I want to remind everybody again, I am a two-time Trump voter. | ||
| I don't know if people know or if you guys know, but I run this account, or I did, I'm not very active on it anymore, called The Gay Who Strayed, and I started that in 2017 as a gay Trump supporter. | ||
| Like, I wanted to show that all Trump supporters weren't straight white men. | ||
| That's literally why I created the account, you know? | ||
| And I was an avid, avid, like, hardcore Trump supporter. | ||
| I mean, I just posted on Twitter, like, a few nights ago, I was involved in, like, Stop the Steal protests in Milwaukee. | ||
| Like, I was wearing a Trump cape on the news. | ||
| Or a flag as a cape. | ||
| Like, I was one of those people. | ||
| I was one of those crazy people. | ||
| And now I'm out of it, and I'm looking at it, and I'm seeing people still enraptured by him and it, and I'm just like, bro, There's one thing, well there's two big things that have been the focal point of my critiques and it's zealotry and it's deception. | ||
| That's what I don't like. | ||
| I don't like it when people can't explain or they have a position on something without justification. | ||
| People are allowed to do that, they do it all the time. | ||
| I'm critical of that. | ||
| Yeah, I want to ask you something here. | ||
| You were a huge Trump supporter, and I'm curious, did you stop liking him because you were at Stop the Steal rallies, right? | ||
| You were still clearly a fan of him after 2020. | ||
| Was this because of the tragedy in your own life, or were there other factors? | ||
| What was the moment, I guess, when you said, I really don't like Trump at all? | ||
| Was it when him and DeSantis went to war with each other? | ||
| Like I said, I did vote for him in 2020 and I was part of Stop the Steal because I did not want a Democrat in the White House. | ||
| I can say Trump did have good parts of his presidency. | ||
| Obviously he is incredibly miles better than a Biden president. | ||
| So, and I do believe that there were election irregularities. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| Again, not an election expert. | ||
| Like, I'm not a, you know, science expert. | ||
| Maybe I can't comment on it. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But no, my support was dwindling then. | ||
| And then after Stop the Steal and after January 6th, What I saw happen, and people go there in support of him, and him abandon people when he said he's gonna go to the Capitol with them. | ||
| He didn't go. | ||
| He basically set them up in a giant honeypot situation. | ||
| I mean, you know, it's just a really bad idea to tell people to go to the Capitol. | ||
| I know he said go peacefully and whatnot, like, 100%. | ||
| His words were fine, but the fact that all these people went there because of him, and then after that, like, that was fine. | ||
| I didn't think it was a very smart thing to do, but that was fine. | ||
| But then afterwards, how he abandoned these political prisoners. | ||
| He completely abandoned the J6 prisoners, who I believe are just in a DC gitmo. | ||
| How did he abandon them? | ||
| He never talked about them. | ||
| During the last couple weeks of his presidency? | ||
| Right. | ||
| I mean, he pardoned Kodak Black, which was huge. | ||
| Awesome. | ||
| How many people got directly arrested? | ||
| No, I don't know. | ||
| But I'm just saying, I'm not saying that he could have pardoned them. | ||
| I'm just saying like, you know, afterwards when they were going through this whole process, he didn't speak about them at all. | ||
| He really stayed hush-hush because J6 was such a big, like, controversial thing in the news and it looked bad for him to speak on it, you know, and get involved. | ||
| But his most ardent supporters were rotting away in solitary confinement while, you know, and he's a billionaire. | ||
| He's a billionaire. | ||
| I think that he could have helped with their legal defense fund. | ||
| You know, and he only just started talking about them again now that he's running, but he ignored them for like, I mean, two years. | ||
| So that's really unfortunate. | ||
| Those are two main reasons, but you're asking kind of a timeline. | ||
| It had nothing to do with my mom. | ||
| It was long before then, and it had nothing to do with... I mean, I've been a DeSantis fan and supporter, you know, because I saw what he was doing in Florida. | ||
| I mean, Yeah, to be clear, I'm not trying to say, like, oh, this is only for personal reasons to delegitimize. | ||
| I was just curious what separated you from it. | ||
| Well, I just want to say that I do, at the moment, really heavily prefer Trump, but I'm sympathetic to all of those criticisms. | ||
| Fair. | ||
| And see, this is how it should be. | ||
| We should be able to talk and disagree, but still, we're on the same side at the end of the day. | ||
| Move closer, Seamus. | ||
| Don't be afraid. | ||
| I think one of the main reasons that Trump is going up in the polls is because of DeSantis' failures and less because of Trump's successes. | ||
| Disagree. | ||
| It has to be because there's only 100% that they can tally. | ||
| Because Trump's not doing anything. | ||
| No, he is doing something. | ||
| He's turning his base against DeSantis. | ||
| I want to tell you something, a little story. | ||
| I used to run a merch store before I started Gays Against Groomers. | ||
| It was called The Base Patriot. | ||
| I had merch on there that said Make America Florida. | ||
| It was my best-selling t-shirt. | ||
| All of All of my followers and supporters were Trump supporters, obviously. | ||
| Every single person that bought something from that store was a Trump supporter. | ||
| Now, three days before the midterm election, Trump decided to have a little meltdown and he went on an unhinged, unprovoked attack against DeSantis and hasn't stopped attacking him since. | ||
| He has started calling him DeSanctimonious and DeSanctus, which I don't know what that means. | ||
| Uh, you know, I believe that the cult of personality is so strong with Donald Trump that these lies and names and slander that he's throwing at DeSantis is literally changing the minds of these people who once, not very long ago, loved DeSantis and were saying, make America Florida. | ||
| That makes no sense though. | ||
| How does that not make sense? | ||
| How could someone be a Trump supporter to the degree that they would vote for Ron DeSantis until Donald Trump told them not to and then they decided to vote for Trump instead? | ||
| Well, the polls were completely reversed not long ago. | ||
| Right, so your logic makes no sense. | ||
| Yes, it does. | ||
| Someone was going to vote for Trump. | ||
| But actually, we're going to vote for DeSantis. | ||
| You're not understanding what I'm saying. | ||
| So someone was going to vote for DeSantis until Trump told them not to and said, OK, I'll vote for Trump instead? | ||
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| That makes no sense. | ||
| Yes, it does. | ||
| They were either a Trump supporter or a DeSantis supporter. | ||
| No, it's not that they weren't anti-Trump, but they preferred DeSantis. | ||
| And all these polls, if you remember from a few months ago, like six months ago, there were a million polls all the time. | ||
| Who do you want to see the nominee, Trump or DeSantis? | ||
| And DeSantis was winning every single one. | ||
| Then Trump started going on his unhinged attacks every single day. | ||
| The people who didn't like Trump believed Trump over DeSantis. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But I'm not saying- That's a failure of DeSantis. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I'm not saying that they didn't like Trump. | ||
| I'm saying that they saw that DeSantis was a better option. | ||
| And now, between the constant, like, pressure campaign from Trump slandering DeSantis and making everybody think he's some rhino- You know, you talk about AI-generated art. | ||
| I mean, DeSantis posts- I mean, Trump posts on Truth Social around DeSantis riding a rhino. | ||
| A Photoshop is not a deepfake. | ||
| You're giving me a really good example of exactly what I've been talking about in Ron DeSantis' failures. | ||
| It makes no logical sense. | ||
| I was for DeSantis last year. | ||
| I went on the Daily Wire show and said he's got more tact, he's got a better track record. | ||
| I think he's gonna be the guy. | ||
| That's all still true. And then, earlier in the year when I was like 50-50 because Trump had started the campaign, he | ||
| started talking about what he wanted to do, he said schedule F, I'm like, okay, it could go either way. | ||
| Ron DeSantis made some mistakes. When I point those out, I get relentlessly attacked in a way I've never been attacked | ||
| before. | ||
| The DeSantis campaign itself attacked me. And people started saying, like, why is the DeSantis campaign going | ||
| after Tim Poole like this? | ||
| I'm not saying it was the craziest thing in the world. | ||
| It was like a series of tweets over a few days resulting in me getting bombarded by people insulting me. | ||
| I shrug it off and I'm like, wow. | ||
| In response to bad press, the DeSantis campaign lied and then instead of letting it, ignoring it, they decide to go on the offensive. | ||
| That was one example that personally affected me, and I was like, so that dropped me off | ||
| from 50-50 to 55-45. Then Ron DeSantis published deepfakes, his campaign to the DeSantis War Room, | ||
| and then when I said, yo, that's crossing the line, once again, I started getting intense | ||
| heat from them telling me that they're allowed to do it because Trump once posted a picture | ||
| of Ron riding a rhinoceros, which is laughable. | ||
| Okay, and you and I spoke about this before. | ||
| I don't understand how, you know, these things that are put out by his campaign or by the War Room or by, you know, whatever, accounts and retweeted, whatever the case may be, I don't understand how that can change your support from the actual candidate. | ||
| because like... I can explain it to you. Okay. Yeah, for one, Ron DeSantis has surrounded himself | ||
| by people who are not competent and when faced with not even criticism, the first thing that | ||
| DeSantis people started attacking me for was that I was shocked to find out that Jazz Jennings got | ||
| trans surgery in Florida while he was governor and the response from the campaign was to lie, | ||
| claim it didn't happen, and then tell me that Ron didn't have a time machine. | ||
| Which was like the weirdest thing ever, because all Christina Pesceau had to do was respond to my tweet with a winking emoji saying, Ron's on it. | ||
| And I would've been like, great! | ||
| Instead- Well, it is illegal now, you know, it wasn't- And still under DeSantis, so these things are going on. | ||
| I didn't say Ron failed, I was like, is this going on under Ron? | ||
| And they relentlessly attacked me for it. | ||
| The response from the Trump camp was to use that against Ron. Now my point about Ron losing support and your | ||
| argument not making sense is my support for Ron and my departure from him has nothing to | ||
| do with Trump saying anything. | ||
| I know it has to do with deepfakes. | ||
| Which is what my point was and other things. My point was it's not about Trump's successes. | ||
| Trump doesn't have very many right now. | ||
| No, he doesn't. | ||
| It's about Ron's failures, his campaign, and his supporters' inability to address the mistakes he's making, double down and defend everything he does, no matter what, like they're in a cult. | ||
| But again, what does that have to do with the actual candidate and the way Ron DeSantis leads and has led in Florida, which turned Florida into a deep red state? | ||
| It's literally bad leadership. | ||
| I can answer that. | ||
| I disagree. | ||
| Personnel. | ||
| He's got bad personnel who are doing bad things and hurting people. | ||
| You don't have to explain. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| I just disagree. | ||
| It's similar to how Donald Trump put Fauci in charge. | ||
| Fauci was in charge and Trump should have fired him. | ||
| Trump should have taken control because he was in charge as the president and he acted | ||
| like he wasn't, kind of, in a way, which is very strange. | ||
| He should have been making all the calls, not letting other people do it, or signing off on other people's decisions like that. | ||
| It was his job. | ||
| So if Ron DeSantis makes bad personnel decisions, we could see another weird doctor calling the shots in the White House. | ||
| Maybe it wouldn't be a doctor this time. | ||
| It could be somebody, though, that's not a good pick. | ||
| That's the concern. | ||
| Yeah, you look at the people that Ron has put in, though, like in his administration. | ||
| You look at the... what is it called? | ||
| I'm so bad with, like, titles. | ||
| But the guy in charge of the medical stuff down there. | ||
| Oh, what's his name? | ||
| Joe Latipo? | ||
| I think that's his name. | ||
| Oh, he's the Surgeon General of Florida, is that right? | ||
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| Sorry, thank you. | ||
| He's been on the show. | ||
| That is the word. | ||
| I swear I'm actually a smart person. | ||
| That's a fascinating thing. | ||
| Let me read this super chat from General Kao. | ||
| Tim blames DeSantis for his bad team but defends Trump by blaming it on a bad team. | ||
| I quite literally never did that. | ||
| I said Trump made a mistake and hired dumbass people and took bad advice from people like Sheldon Adelstein. | ||
| I can say it a million and one times. | ||
| And Ron DeSantis is currently on a similar path and I don't like it. | ||
| And Ron DeSantis won't own up to his mistakes and I don't like it. | ||
| And Donald Trump was never my first pick and I didn't vote for him in 2016 and I only liked his foreign policy and him banning government contracts with woke companies. | ||
| I will take Donald Trump right now because he's more likely to fire people than Ron is. | ||
| These are basic simple statements. | ||
| But he's going to hire Lindsey Graham. | ||
| The more the DeSantis people lie about what that position is, the more I'm just going to keep pointing out that the DeSantis supporters are just lying about what's going on and refuse to accept that Ron has screwed up. | ||
| If you can't, look, I don't care if Ron wins or loses. | ||
| I'll just tell you this right now. | ||
| If Ron can't get a hold of this and his supporters can't accept it, he will lose and he deserves to lose. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Fair. | ||
| I just want to say that Trump will drain the swamp with Lindsey Graham by his side. | ||
| Don't even know if he'll do that, but if it's 51% to Ron DeSantis' 49%, I'll put my bet on the 51%. | ||
| And that's been my position the whole time. | ||
| I'm bullish on Vivek Ramaswamy, man. | ||
| You seem, you know, he just seems like your guy. | ||
| Like, I can tell. | ||
| Like, Ian Crosland and Vivek, like, it's just a match. | ||
| He's a billionaire by the time he's 26 or something. | ||
| So is Zuckerberg, though. | ||
| Watch out for that. | ||
| That might be a reason to be skeptical of somebody, actually. | ||
| You have to be joking. | ||
| to be skeptical of somebody. I have never seen such as such as | ||
| zealotry for a candidate with Ron that I have with Ron. You have | ||
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to be joking. I'm literally not kidding. Okay, how is it that | |
| Charlie Kirk, Alex Bruce awits, you're gonna say that when a | ||
| lake when there's a common here, okay, Steve Bannon, and I can | ||
| tell them to their faces, Trump screwed up, Trump screwed up, | ||
| Trump screwed up, I'm not talking about them. | ||
| I'm talking about the most ardent Trump supporters. | ||
| No, I'm not talking about these big names, these famous whatever people in the political world. | ||
| I'm talking about your average supporter. | ||
| Um, you know, Trump says, uh, Ron DeSantis is a meatball. | ||
| The next day, all you see in the replies of a DeSantis tweet is meatball Ron, meatball Ron. | ||
| Ron DeSantis is Jeb 2.0, Trump says. | ||
| The next thing you see is Jeb, Jeb, Jeb, you know. | ||
| I mean, yeah, you guys are fighting with each other. | ||
| No, no, but it's just like everything Trump parrots, or Trump says they parrot, and it's instantly true, like according to them. | ||
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This is the thing for like, for where we are. | |
| I did not vote for Trump in 2016. | ||
| I voted for Trump in 2020 on a few key issues. | ||
| I am not very strongly conservative Republican and I'm not super concerned about a lot of the issues. | ||
| There's a handful of culture war issues I like. | ||
| I think Ron DeSantis did a very good job on a lot of them. | ||
| The Trump supporters and the DeSantis supporters are going at each other relentlessly. | ||
| I, as someone who don't really care, for the most part, say, hey, look at bad thing. | ||
| I get attacked by DeSantis supporters. | ||
| I look at Trump and say, hey, look at bad thing. | ||
| Trump supporters say, let me argue with you. | ||
| I don't get the level of vitriol, hate, and zealotry from Trump supporters that maybe you do. | ||
| No, the second I come out and say anything negative about Trump, I'm instantly called a rhino. | ||
| I'm instantly called a shill. | ||
| I'm instantly called every name in the book. | ||
| We talk crap about Trump all the time and we don't get the level that we get from DeSantis supporters. | ||
| Okay, we've had Luke Rutkowski on the show. | ||
| You have a vastly different experience than me and a lot of people that I know. | ||
| So yeah, I mean, so who's to say which version is correct? | ||
| This is why Trump will win. | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| Trump will win because his supporters are crazy. | ||
| Because if people like me and Luke, the libertarians and disaffected liberals who come on this show, if their experience of Trump supporters tends to be arguments and their experience of DeSantis supporters tends to be vitriol, they're going to lean against DeSantis. | ||
| I just want to be clear when I say his supporters are crazy. | ||
| I respect Trump supporters. | ||
| I'm friends with Trump supporters. | ||
| So many people in my organization are Trump supporters. | ||
| When I talk about the crazy ones, I'm talking about these Trump ideologues that are enraptured by the cult of personalities. | ||
| I want to make that very clear because I don't like attacking people like that and I'm not trying to paint a broad brush. | ||
| Couldn't you say that's also something that happens in different candidacies? | ||
| Like, there are people who are absolutely diehard DeSantis fans who are just gonna agree with whatever he says, and they're gonna be extremely angry with you if you criticize them. | ||
| And this is something I've noticed, by the way, right? | ||
| So, I think, with the way I've been careful about my messaging, I haven't really said anything all that bombastic. | ||
| My main points about, like, the Trump-DeSantis thing have basically been, I think it's not great for the Republican Party that these two guys are fighting in an ideal world. | ||
| They would get along with each other. | ||
| When I see, you know, Trump dunk on DeSantis, it doesn't, like, thrill me the way him dunking on Jeb Bush did. | ||
| I don't go, oh, this is awesome. | ||
| Part of me goes, it's sad because I think DeSantis does have a lot to offer this country, but that said, even when I've said things like, I think that Trump has a far broader appeal with respect to his charismatic powers than DeSantis, and I don't think DeSantis gets people as excited, I've had people very angry with me just for saying that, which I think is a very mild criticism. | ||
| You know, regarding what you said earlier, that Trump supporters are crazy, I think maybe it was a little heavy-handed what you said, that it's that, in my opinion, that cultism is crazy. | ||
| People that fall into cultism are falling into a crazy methodology. | ||
| Not that they themselves are, it's just that that is a crazy way to behave. | ||
| To love someone no matter what is a crazy way to behave. | ||
| Well, if you look at the signs, there's this graphic that was floating around, like the seven signs you're in a cult, and all of them, you know, Let me look these up. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Read them. | ||
| Can we read them? | ||
| Because it's amazing. | ||
| And you just see if it makes you think of any... This is from the Atlantic. | ||
| I don't know if I'm gonna... Medium has ten signs. | ||
| There's a lot of different signs apparently. | ||
| I haven't read this one. | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| There's a couple. | ||
| Opposing critical thinking. | ||
| Isolating members and penalizing- No, this isn't the one. | ||
| This isn't the one. | ||
| It's from the Atlantic. | ||
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| No, just dishonoring the family unit. | ||
| No, that's- It's about the church. | ||
| It was basically just about, like, the leader. | ||
| It was- It was, like, basically the leader can never say anything wrong. | ||
| The leader can- Like how DeSantis supporters- A lot of them, yeah. | ||
| Name one thing you've hated to criticize Sanders for. | ||
| I mean, when? | ||
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Ever? | |
| At any point, ever. | ||
| I have criticized, you know, the ad, the Pride ad that went out. | ||
| I don't think it was nearly as bad as... I do have a tweet if you want to look it up, like a week... Again, I have no sense of time, but very recently when the ad came out that wasn't put out by his campaign, it should be noted, but I was critical of it. | ||
| I was saying, do I love to see that as a, you know, as a right-wing lesbian? | ||
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No. | |
| Do I think it is anti-gay and homophobic? | ||
| Also, no. | ||
| But, you know, I'm able to. | ||
| Like, I am able to see faults and maybe blind spots and comment on that. | ||
| I think this is the seven signs you were referring to. | ||
| Okay, let's hear it. | ||
| Yeah, I found one. | ||
| Leadership discourage, ignores, or punishes questioning. | ||
| Leadership encourages self-policing, including confession and punishment. | ||
| No, that's not it either. | ||
| I'll have to find it. | ||
| I'll send it to you. | ||
| The rest of them are all the same as Atlantic. | ||
| No, it was in an image format, it wasn't an article. | ||
| I think cultism and politics are interesting because you like to think you're voting for ideas and policies, but you're really just voting for a human that can turn on you at any moment. | ||
| Yes, and that is a massively important point. | ||
| I completely agree with you. | ||
| We should be greatly concerned with a person's policies, but one thing that has always driven me crazy about the left Is whenever one of their leaders gets caught up in something like a sex scandal, and this was huge with Clinton, their response is to say, well, we shouldn't care about the moral quality of our candidates, all we should care about are the policies, as if they're not a human being, they're just a set of policy prescriptions. | ||
| No, you need a leader in that position, so you want someone who behaves morally. | ||
| And I think it's perfectly legitimate to point out the immoral behaviors of any candidate in any party, and I'm completely willing to bite the bullet on that with Trump. | ||
| But what really drives me crazy is when I do point out just the human appeal, the fact that there's more charisma with Trump and people say, well, you know, policy matters more. | ||
| I can say, in a sense, yes, absolutely. | ||
| If it were up to me, we would just choose people based on policy. | ||
| But when you're picking a candidate, the thing you do have to consider is, are people going to want to grab a beer with this guy? | ||
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Because that's going to determine how many people vote. | |
| Oh, age is another one, not necessarily age but health of the brain, brain health. | ||
| These are all reasons why last year I was saying Ron DeSantis was the guy for the job. | ||
| Trump's old, Ron's younger, Ron's got great policies. | ||
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How about no more geriatrics in the White House? | |
| He's got youthful vigor and military service, things that Donald Trump doesn't have. | ||
| And then when Donald Trump relaunched his campaign, and there were a few key issues, especially relating to the war in Ukraine, and I don't- I believe Trump will end it over- I don't think even Trump as a person with words will end it. | ||
| I think the Trump persona will be a contributing factor in ending it, which I talked about earlier. | ||
| Uh, put me at like a, I don't know, we'll see, you know, 50-50. | ||
| I like Ron DeSantis, he's a great, great proven track record in Florida. | ||
| And then Ron made a bunch of mistakes. | ||
| Notably, the big issue, one of the big issues for me was the deepfake thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Which his campaign has completely refused to acknowledge, apologize for. | ||
| I just don't think it's that big of a deal. | ||
| Like I, and you know that I- I do. | ||
| I think the media lying is the biggest, is one of my biggest pet peeves, one of my biggest issues I've complained about for years. | ||
| But it's not a lie, it's not a lie. | ||
| The photo is not real. | ||
| He never did. | ||
| I mean, he may have hugged Fauci, but that picture was not real. | ||
| But he did embrace Fauci. | ||
| Huh? | ||
| It's three photos. | ||
| Okay, whatever. | ||
| He never hugged Fauci. | ||
| Those photos are not real. | ||
| Those three photos, whatever, are not real. | ||
| But he did embrace Fauci. | ||
| And that is worse. | ||
| He did embrace Fauci. | ||
| It's a lot worse than just hugging him one time. | ||
| He embraced Fauci-ism. | ||
| He let Fauci run the freaking country. | ||
| It's dangerous to rely on metaphors. | ||
| I don't understand why that's such a big deal. | ||
| But Trump embracing Fauci is not. | ||
| No, you can say that both are bad and you can say that one of the issues with DeSantis making these deepfakes is that it's a great deflection point for Trump. | ||
| If DeSantis wants to bring up Trump's relationship with Fauci during the debates or any other candidate that wants to bring that up, Trump just goes, more lies, more deepfakes, and he can say that credibly because there was a deepfake. | ||
| I mean, I guess, but I think voters are smart enough to understand that people are bringing up, you know, how he handed the presidency over to him and not just like a two-second clip from a quick ad like a year ago. | ||
| But the thing is, like, a quick soundbite response is very persuasive to the American public. | ||
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| So for Trump just being able to say, you've made deep fakes of me and Fauci, we're not going to listen to you, you have no credibility here, is going to be a massive asset for Trump in the debate. | ||
| And the moderator is going to say, this is correct. | ||
| Governor DeSantis, you did do this. | ||
| How do you respond? | ||
| Okay, and if I was DeSantis, I would say you literally embraced Fauci. | ||
| Maybe you didn't hug him, like in this picture, but you embraced him. | ||
| He's admitting it, folks. | ||
| He's confessing. | ||
| That's what Trump's gonna do. | ||
| Figuratively, your presidency, you embraced Fauci, and the country was destroyed because of that decision by you. | ||
| And Trump's gonna interrupt him and say, he's confessed, he's admitted it, that's what I'm talking about. | ||
| Whatever, we can play what-ifs, what-about-ism, we'll see how it plays out if Trump even goes. | ||
| Why isn't Trump going to the debate? | ||
| I'd love to see it. | ||
| The danger I see with deepfakes is that we're still early in the technology, so in four years, you'll be able to make a video of someone doing whatever you want, and it will look exactly real life. | ||
| And if you put real life Jamie, if I put that over the video of you doing something that you didn't do, even if I think metaphorically it counts, that's dirty. | ||
| I think that it would be a lot worse if it was Trump, like, sucking some dude off, right? | ||
| Like, that would never be in a campaign ad, but something that, like, is very obviously, you know, in real life never happened. | ||
| Maybe it did, but I'm just saying, like, him hugging Fauci in a picture, a fake picture, when he actually, like, embraced him. | ||
| Figuratively, and like for over a year, two years or something, I don't think that that's comparable to like a deep fake of me, you know, kissing a guy, proving that I'm straight, you know, like trying to say, see, she's straight. | ||
| Like that's different, I think. | ||
| But if it was you doing something, killing someone, and it looked real... Well, yeah, that's terrible! | ||
| But the technology's already there. | ||
| We already have that. | ||
| Yeah, it's almost exactly real. | ||
| But I don't think that you can take it that extreme from this DeSantis ad. | ||
| I just don't. | ||
| It's the beginning of a long tunnel of danger. | ||
| It's a crossing of the Rubicon. | ||
| We have long talked about the dangers of AI. | ||
| Uh, we've talked to, like, you know, uh, side note, Elon launch, launches XAI, more is coming. | ||
| Yeah, we should talk about that. | ||
| Media is gonna start, they've already announced, I think, GMG, Gizmodo Media, I think it's Gizmodo Media Group, is firing journalists, they're gonna do AI content instead. | ||
| But AI can only imitate, it can't create. | ||
| So what happens is, instead of new information getting generated, it regurgitates existing information, feeds it back into the AI and creates a feedback loop. | ||
| So what DeSantis did is a component of that very, very bad thing. | ||
| Should not have happened, crosses the Rubicon into very dangerous territories where we're going to start seeing very subtle manipulations in politics. | ||
| We can tolerate none of it. | ||
| The only way we navigate it is by making it unconscionable to do. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So Ron DeSantis goes to zero so long as he's done the unthinkable. | ||
| Okay, I still think it's, in my opinion, not worth abandoning your support of the potential, you know, I mean, the greatest politician I believe in the Republican Party right now, that is running for president, that shines against Trump in every way. | ||
| You know, that's just my opinion, and I respect yours, Tim. | ||
| And like I said, we should be able to have these conversations, okay? | ||
| Like, you know, this isn't Twitter, we should be able to have a healthy debate. | ||
| Yeah, we are having healthy but like and still be on good terms. | ||
| Like I still respect you. | ||
| I respect your opinion. | ||
| I think Ron DeSantis is the is the best politician in the country. | ||
| Hands down. | ||
| I want to have him in here. | ||
| Why wouldn't you want him to be president over deepfake? | ||
| He's incompetent and he's bad. | ||
| We do have breaking news that we have to jump to. | ||
| arguments yeah maybe it's against groomer stuff what's it up to well what's | ||
| happening we do have breaking news we do have breaking news that we have to jump | ||
| to ladies and gentlemen Wow Ray Epps to be criminally charged for events on | ||
| January 6 that's a big attorney says yeah this is a big one Why did it take this long? | ||
| Because he's suing Fox News. | ||
| I think he just announced it. | ||
| That's the next bit of news. | ||
| But the revelation was made in a lawsuit that Epps filed against Fox News on Wednesday that accused the network and former host Tucker Carlson of defaming him. | ||
| So it is because of this lawsuit that he is, I'm sorry, it is because of the lawsuit we know he's been criminally charged, I suppose the argument they're making is that he's being charged because of them or something, I don't know. | ||
| Dude, here's the thing. | ||
| Let's say, let's just say, okay? | ||
| Wow, Epps is being prosecuted. | ||
| We'll play make-believe for a moment and we'll say, you know what, this is just some guy who went there, he wasn't working with any kind of federal agency, and he hasn't been protected by his status as someone who worked with them. | ||
| Even so, even if we want to say that's the case, Good. | ||
| This guy should be charged. | ||
| You're whispering. | ||
| You're instigating the day before, telling people that they have to go into the Capitol. | ||
| Everyone starts calling you a fed. | ||
| You're still doing it, going around instigating. | ||
| You're whispering in the ear of the first person to break a barrier down before they break the barrier down. | ||
| Why did it take so long for this guy to be arrested? | ||
| All right. | ||
| Epps lawyer blamed Carlson for the potential forthcoming charges. | ||
| Take a look at that. | ||
| It wasn't your client. | ||
| Hold, stop, stop. | ||
| Thank you, Tucker Carlson. | ||
| It wasn't like, yeah, yeah, no, it was Tucker Carlson's fault. | ||
| Tucker Carlson was actually whispering in Ray Epps' ear before Ray Epps whispered in | ||
| everyone else's ear to start breaking the barriers down. | ||
| You know what, Tucker is still going to destroy Fox News even not being there because if he | ||
| wins, if Epps, you know, has a case here against them, then uh... | ||
| Shout out to Tucker. | ||
| Tim's shouting out Tucker right now as we speak. | ||
| Fix the OCD about typos. | ||
| No, I mean, this is very real. | ||
| I've spoken about Ray Epps a bit in the past. | ||
| We've had some conversations about him and about January 6th and just how interesting it is that he was so clearly involved in instigating and yet he never got in any trouble. | ||
| Look, him being charged is a win-win regardless. | ||
| When you look at how many people were rotting away in prison in solitary confinement, were having their rights violated for doing things like entering the building, just a fraction of it. | ||
| When you look what happened to Brandon Strzoka, they claimed he was outside of the Capitol and they claim That they heard him saying that people should go in, or something along those lines, and there's not even footage of him saying it, they just claim the voice saying it on camera is him, and then he ended up having to plea down to avoid prison time, and this guy was whispering in people's ears, telling them to break barriers down, was telling people on January 5th that they needed to go into the Capitol, and here it is, July of 2023, and he's now being charged? | ||
| This is ridiculous! | ||
| Two and a half years later! | ||
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| Two and a half years later. | ||
| And I just love that he's saying Carlson, he's blaming Carlson for the upcoming charges. | ||
| I just tweeted, thank you Tucker Carlson, you are a gentleman and a scholar. | ||
| So is that why he's announcing that they're going to sue Fox for Tucker's voice? | ||
| Because he didn't do anything wrong and then Tucker Carlson just made him look bad for no reasons. | ||
| This is really funny. | ||
| Look at what Rolling Stone said. | ||
| They said, The lawsuit alleges the network, particularly its former host Tucker Carlson, painted Epps as an undercover federal agent in order to push a conspiracy that the FBI helped orchestrate the riot. | ||
| In the aftermath of the events of January 6th, Fox News searched for a scapegoat to blame other than Donald Trump or the Republican Party. | ||
| Eventually, they turned on one of their own, telling a fantastical story in which Ray Epps, who was a Trump supporter that participated in the protests on January 6th, We went from insurrection to riot to protest real fast right there. | ||
| They said he was an undercover agent, was responsible for the mob that broke into the Capitol and interfered with the peaceful transition of power, the conspiracy theory, blah blah blah, fed fed fed. | ||
| Do they mention here that he's being criminally charged? | ||
| They said in May they were notified by the- that was the other article, it said that in May they were notified. | ||
| Rolling Stone said that? | ||
| No, it was the article you had up before. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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I don't- I don't know if, uh... They conveniently left that part out. | |
| Yeah, I don't think Rolling Stone's bringing up that he's blaming Carlson for being criminally charged. | ||
| How does that work? | ||
| If you're criminally charged with something, and then you try and sue the person that got the criminal charge? | ||
| Oh, look at this, look at this. | ||
| I'm sorry to interrupt, but look. | ||
| It says, Epps has not been arrested for his involvement, and Carlson and others have alleged the Justice Department is protecting him because of working for the FBI. | ||
| Yet, in the lawsuit, Epps says he's being criminally charged. | ||
| Huh. | ||
| Recently informed apps had plans to prosecute him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Rolling Stone, fact-check your garbage. | ||
| Unless the Daily Wire's wrong, I really doubt it. | ||
| Well, Rolling Stone has- they've really been batting a hundred lately, huh? | ||
| We saw their article about- That's bad. | ||
| About Sound of Freedom. | ||
| And did you see their article? | ||
| Wasn't- there was like a meme, like a screenshot side-by-side of the article about Sound of Freedom and then their article about Cuties? | ||
| That Netflix movie? | ||
| Yes, that's right! | ||
| They said it was like a great- I wanna- I gotta read this. | ||
| I gotta read this. | ||
| Section 94 of the lawsuit. | ||
| Finally, in May 23, the Department of Justice notified Epps that it would seek to charge him criminally for the events on January 6, 2021. | ||
| Two and a half years later, the relentless attacks by Fox and Mr. Carlson and the resulting political pressure likely resulted in the criminal charges. | ||
| Wow, Tucker Carlson, can I buy you a beer? | ||
| Yeah, you can, actually. | ||
| As if we're supposed to. | ||
| Conservative dad's ultra-ripe beer. | ||
| The question is, when they publish these kinds of stories trying to smear Tucker, and Apps is the person we're supposed to be sympathetic to, who do they think is going to buy that? | ||
| Like, who in the country is going to go, oh man, because everyone on the right is going to say either A, this guy's a fed, or B, He's somebody who got away with it when he shouldn't have, when you look at people rotting in prison over far lesser wrongdoing. | ||
| And what the left is gonna say is, this guy's an insurrectionist! | ||
| Who do they think this is appealing to? | ||
| Who's gonna shed tears over this guy? | ||
| Yeah, right, like, Detector Carlson accused him of inciting violence at the Capitol, and now he's gonna get charged for it, and Rolling Stone's defending him. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| Well, that's why you know something's up. | ||
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| That's why you know something's up with this guy. | ||
| Why would one of the insurrectionists be defended by Rolling Stone? | ||
| By basically everyone in the media? | ||
| Everyone in the media who hates Stephen Carlson? | ||
| Everyone who's acknowledged him? | ||
| Fact checkers have come to his defense and said he did nothing wrong? | ||
| Come on! | ||
| Yeah, they love that guy. | ||
| He's on video saying stuff, I believe. | ||
| Is that correct? | ||
| Yeah, he's on video saying stuff. | ||
| Yeah, he Yes, he was inciting and then lo and behold, the next day | ||
| they all do the thing he said that they should do the night before, right after he whispers | ||
| into somebody's ear and that person breaks down one of the barriers. | ||
| And it is July of 2023 and we're just getting word that this guy might be charged and it's | ||
| because of Tucker Carlson. | ||
| Are you kidding me? | ||
| Are you kidding me? | ||
| They announced that they were going to charge him in May, but I haven't heard anything about it until today, which is two and a half months later. | ||
| Tucker is a national treasure. | ||
| I deeply respect this man. | ||
| He stopped an insurrectionist, Tim! | ||
| He brought an insurrectionist to justice! | ||
| He provided evidence. | ||
| About Jake Chansley, I believe his name, right? | ||
| Jacob Chansley, dude, yeah. | ||
| Showing him walking through the halls with a police escort and them even trying to open doors for him. | ||
| And he also exposed Right Apps as one of the people inciting the violence and tearing down the barricades, telling people to go inside. | ||
| The thing about this whole January 6th thing is you'll find most people, even Donald Trump himself says there were bad people there, they should be charged, but some of them, many of them weren't. | ||
| I think everybody agrees the violence, the fighting was bad. | ||
| Even Trump posted on January 6th, our side believes in law enforcement. | ||
| The media tried lying about all of it, trying to claim that he was egging people on to go there for violence. | ||
| Tucker Carlson exposes the lies and the manipulations. | ||
| While also criticizing someone who actually incited violence. | ||
| That is the balanced, honest, and moderate approach to what happened. | ||
| We don't like the violence on January 6th. | ||
| We don't like the innocent people being charged. | ||
| Tucker is effectively calling it out. | ||
| So effective, it seems, Epps is actually finally getting charged for being a principal actor and inciting the violence that day. | ||
| This is crazy! | ||
| Remember, when Trump said go over there and march peacefully, he was actually sending out a top secret right | ||
| wing doggle. | ||
| So I don't know if you know this, but every conservative in the country, every right winger actually has a chip in our | ||
| brain. | ||
| And when right wing pundits say things that sound totally innocuous, they're actually right wing pundits. | ||
| They're actually telling us to do something evil. | ||
| So Trump activated that magic power, and he said, go over there peacefully and have your voice heard. | ||
| And of course, what he was really saying is, you know, like, enter the building and commit acts of violence. | ||
| Now, Ray Epps, on the other hand, when he was saying, enter the Capitol, what he was actually dog-whistling was, be peaceful and have your voice heard. | ||
| It's a song. | ||
| Everyone's getting it backwards. | ||
| If you don't know Trump-ish and Epp-ish, you wouldn't know. | ||
| It's a song about computer programming. | ||
| Enter the Capitol just meant, like, press shift. | ||
| And it was Miskins, Drew. | ||
| He says, we gotta enter the cap- No! | ||
| You misunderstand. | ||
| It's a song about computer programming. | ||
| It was just like Rock the Kazbah for computer nerds. | ||
| That's what that smash hit. | ||
| You know, it was all big misunderstanding and now he's going to jail. | ||
| He's going to jail because of Tucker Carlson and his fake news. | ||
| I mean, seriously, these people- hold on a second. | ||
| Does anyone in the media think that Tucker Carlson has any influence over who's charged? | ||
| The only reason he has any say on this or that he's related to this is because he showed actual footage of what the guy was doing to the American people to the point where the media couldn't ignore it. | ||
| Tucker Carlson can't just fabricate charges against the person and then have that person go to jail. | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| What world are they living in? | ||
| What world do these people live in where Tucker Carlson can falsely accuse you of a crime and you go to jail? | ||
| A world where they falsely accuse people of crimes and send them to jail. | ||
| And they go to jail, but they should know that Tucker doesn't have that ability. | ||
| Wouldn't it be great if he did, though, if he had that kind of power? | ||
| I want Tucker in power. | ||
| I don't like you, and I'm going to have you sent to prison, actually. | ||
| Team Tucker. | ||
| No, all I can do is say, actually. | ||
| Seamus is the one who can actually do his voice. | ||
| Actually. | ||
| I don't think anybody should have the evidence about you on my television program. | ||
| I just interviewed Andrew Tate. | ||
| Did you guys see it? | ||
| I did not see that. | ||
| It was okay. | ||
| I didn't watch the whole thing. | ||
| You went to Romania, is that right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, you have to, I guess. | ||
| I watched a decent amount of it, and I think it's really great for people who aren't familiar | ||
| with Andrew Tate. | ||
| But for anybody who's watched or listened to Andrew Tate, you're like, it's his thing, | ||
| it's his spiel, it's the advice he gives. | ||
| Tucker didn't give too much of himself in the interview, it's mostly just Tate. | ||
| I've only seen clips of him. | ||
| I only saw, like, the first ten minutes, but, you know, regardless of who it is that he's interviewing, I just love how many views his videos, you know, this show of his is getting on Twitter. | ||
| Because, I mean, every day more and more you just continue to see that legacy media is irrelevant and is dying, and everybody should celebrate that. | ||
| Dude, his Twitter picture is like him in a leather jacket, too. | ||
| It's like chillin'. | ||
| Can we talk about corporate media? | ||
| I know, I love that new picture. | ||
| Here, check this story out from Daily Mail. | ||
| MSNBC's Micah Brzezinski blames 80-year-old Biden's staff for making him look old, argues his aides should be making sure he doesn't fall over and should be controlling his schedule. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Who watches these people and thinks they're like smart critical thinkers? | ||
| I think that's actually a really good point. | ||
| They're hurting their own argument. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| The people who follow it are like, tell me where to stand and how high to jump. | ||
| It's a somewhat salient point. | ||
| Mika's saying like, you know, we've done stage performances. | ||
| You don't necessarily know where all the pitfalls are on the stage when you're done. | ||
| Hopefully someone's going to point Not to the exit for you, otherwise you're looking around like, where's the exit? | ||
| I just got here. | ||
| And she's saying that the handlers should, like, let him know ahead of time, you're gonna be walking off over here, there should be people waving him, things like that. | ||
| But at the same time, she's also kind of admitting that he's 80 and frail, like, mentally not stable. | ||
| Because, like, realistically, you look around really quick, you're the president. | ||
| You can do whatever you want. | ||
| You can laugh and joke with people as you're looking around. | ||
| You can make a display of it. | ||
| But the guy's so old, and it looks like even, like, his musculature is having a hard time holding his bones up sometimes. | ||
| I like how... That's true. | ||
| The fact that you could blame this man's staff for the fact that he looks old is remarkable to me. | ||
| That's one I didn't think I'd hear. | ||
| That, you know, the speech impediment one was wild enough, when he said poor kids are just as bright and talented as white kids, or, you know, when he said 200-abit of pressure, or bad calf care... I agree with bad calf care. | ||
| Or nexolescent. | ||
| And they're like, well, that's just, that's like a speech impediment. | ||
| It's like, what kind of speech impediment makes you say that? | ||
| It's not a speech impediment. | ||
| The dementia one? | ||
| No, it's called Biden-phagy. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| It's some weird disease that's unique to him, I guess. | ||
| Let's jump to the story from Deadline. | ||
| I want to make sure we get this one in before we go to Superchats. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, from Deadline, Jim Caviezel thriller Sound of Freedom knocks insidious Red Door from number one spot. | ||
| They can't just write it, can they? | ||
| Write the headline, Sound of Freedom, box office, number one. | ||
| Just write that. | ||
| They had to write it in such a way that they don't say it. | ||
| Even in the article, they don't explicitly say it. | ||
| They just say like, it hit four million dollars, and then Red Door was 3.5, so knock down from, just say Sound of Freedom is number one. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, with your viewing of the film, your support, this film about child trafficking is number one. | ||
| The reason why I'm so excited for it, Parallel Economy. | ||
| Obviously, it's a good movie. | ||
| You should see it. | ||
| Obviously, child trafficking is bad. | ||
| But there are a lot of movies about a lot of issues that we watch. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| This is about indie films shifting the cultural narrative onto issues that we need to talk about. | ||
| Problems that need to be stopped. | ||
| That, for a long time, they claimed weren't really happening in the weirdest of ways. | ||
| The Epstein stuff, they said, oh, that's nonsense. | ||
| And then he got arrested for it. | ||
| And then Maxwell got convicted for it. | ||
| And then Prince Andrew got ostracized and shunned for his involvement. | ||
| And there's a lot of people on that client list we want to know about. | ||
| Now this movie comes out. | ||
| After five years, they try and shut it down. | ||
| And this is what you can see. | ||
| A film about an important issue, number one. | ||
| It's a good film. | ||
| It's got a 100% audience score on Rotten Tomatoes. | ||
| Even the critics like it overwhelmingly. | ||
| It's like 80%. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| The majority of critics enjoy it. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| As much as they want to rag on it and say it's a QAnon film, the majority of critics are like, it's a good movie. 80%. | ||
| And now that it's number one, let's keep supporting films like this so that we can have alternatives to Hollywood and the creepy grooming stuff that they try and do in these films and the weird woke ideology. | ||
| This is that path forward. | ||
| You know, part of what makes this movie so great, I saw it last night, is Jim Caviezel is really feeling this stuff. | ||
| I mean, you can see it in his eyes. | ||
| There's just, it's enough of his eyes, like you are with him. | ||
| You're in his mind space and it is so powerful. | ||
| I don't know what he went through to get into this place where he's at right now, but God bless Jim Caviezel. | ||
| That man is amazing. | ||
| Yeah, he's a good actor. | ||
| I mean, he was in The Passion, right? | ||
| Remember that? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, that's right. | ||
| He hasn't really done anything major, I feel like, since then. | ||
| Like, he's kind of... he just comes back for... Well, this was five years ago. | ||
| Well, there's a reason. | ||
| So there's a famous story about how he was... Oh, right, they did make this a while ago, yeah. | ||
| There's a famous story about how he was cast in The Passion. | ||
| Mel Gibson called him and said, hey, do you want to destroy your career? | ||
| Alright, let's do it. | ||
| Did you see that? | ||
| The Passion? | ||
| Oh yeah, yeah. | ||
| We watched it recently, actually. | ||
| Yeah, we actually re-watched it. | ||
| Yeah, we watched it together. | ||
| Beautiful film. | ||
| There's a lot I learned about, in terms of the politics of the era that I didn't know, which I thought was interesting. | ||
| In terms of this film, it was made five years ago, so when you mention, like, he hasn't been doing stuff, he actually was! | ||
| He was doing this! | ||
| And then they blocked the film. | ||
| Now, let me ask you guys, why would Hollywood not run a film like this. | ||
| I can't imagine a possible incentive they would have to not want people to care about the issues of child trafficking and other related problems. | ||
| You know, their response to it just, I mean, they just tell on themselves. | ||
| It's like, why are you doing this? | ||
| At least fake it, you know? | ||
| Like, I don't know, they're kind of, it puts them in a catch-22. | ||
| Like, they can't support it because they don't want it exposed, but if they, you know, come out against it like they have been, it makes them look sus as There's that viral tweet where it's a guy who was like a writer at one of these digital outlets was claiming, he tweeted something like, the only reason conservatives keep complaining about kids being shown graphic material is because they secretly want to show kids graphic material. | ||
| What? | ||
| And then it was like, it's one of those like defiant L's or whatever, where it's like the next one is writer named so | ||
| and so gets arrested for soliciting images or something like that. | ||
| This is, alright, this is, it's one of the only jokes the left has is, you're against this thing, I bet you secretly | ||
| want to do that thing, right? | ||
| That's why your video was so good. | ||
| Thank you, we just released one yesterday. | ||
| I gotta watch that one. | ||
| But if you like believe in traditional marriage, like up, you're secretly gay. | ||
| That's the only explanation. | ||
| If you're, like, I want, uh, literally with every single issue, uh, if you're against grooming, oh, well, actually, like, you secretly want to groom. | ||
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| Um, I'm not kidding. | ||
| I think I've heard a version of this about literally every topic. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| We get that all the time on Gays Against Groomers. | ||
| Yeah, you're like secret groomers. | ||
| Of course, that's the only reason that you'd oppose this. | ||
| I think, what's that line, thou's protest too much? | ||
| I think thou's protest too much. | ||
| Is that Shakespeare? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Methinks thou's protest too much. | ||
| And there is something to that. | ||
| What is it, the lady? | ||
| That someone's constantly talking about how something is evil. | ||
| Maybe then they are the one that's perpetrating it and they want everyone to think they're not. | ||
| I understand that methodology, but that doesn't mean that if you claim something is evil or wrong that you secretly want to do it. | ||
| The lady doth protest too much, methinks. | ||
| We live in a culture where so many horrible, degenerate things have been normalized, so it makes sense that people would pay attention to that and want to fix that, but whenever you do, it's, well, that's kind of interesting that you pay so much attention to that. | ||
| It's like, what, one of the number one culture war issues in the country right now? | ||
| You think it's weird that I paid attention to that? | ||
| How dare we care about children being abused sexually and otherwise? | ||
| You freak! | ||
| This line is fantastic. | ||
| It's basically accusing someone of virtue signaling. | ||
| Uh, it is Queen Gertrude, in response to insincere overacting of a character, uh, to prove his uncle's guilt, blah blah blah, the lady doth protest too much, methinks. | ||
| I'm just gonna say that to people now who are virtue signaling. | ||
| That's a great play. | ||
| If you haven't seen Hamlet before, see it. | ||
| See a good version of it. | ||
| A good movie. | ||
| I've seen, uh, Billy Madison, you know, hold the skull. | ||
| That's all I've ever seen of it. | ||
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| In the play, they do a play. | ||
| So they're watching actors in the play do this faux scene about the murder of, I think it's about the murder of Hamlet's father. | ||
| And then the mother's like, something's off about this. | ||
| And she doesn't know that her husband murdered her old husband. | ||
| So her new husband, I could explain this way better. | ||
| I don't want to spoil it. | ||
| That's why I'm kind of scamping around. | ||
| No, you're fine. | ||
| But yeah, for the audience. | ||
| It's a 500-year-old play. | ||
| Um, so Hamlet's mother's, uh, and his father was killed in the beginning of the play. | ||
| So then his uncle comes in and marries his mother and turns out his uncle killed his father. | ||
| Um, but his mother doesn't know that. | ||
| And she's looking at the play like something's off about, and they're trying to, it's a great, absolutely phenomenal story. | ||
| I'm going to have to go check that out. | ||
| I hope I got all that right. | ||
| I was in it. | ||
| I played Laertes. | ||
| The current numbers for Sound of Freedom from Box Office Mojo, $49,497,837. | ||
| So, that's fantastic. | ||
| It is Wednesday. | ||
| If every single person watching this goes and sees it, what is that? | ||
| That's not gonna, that's not enough, that's not enough. | ||
| We need every single person watching this to bring their friends and family to go see it, so that this film can crack $100 million. | ||
| Let's do it. | ||
| Look, I'm willing to see it again. | ||
| I also think that if you can, it's good to contribute to the free ticket funds that they have for people who can't afford to go see the movie but would like to. | ||
| Have you heard about there's a bunch of videos being shared on social media of people being kicked out of the theaters and getting refunded? | ||
| No, I haven't seen that at all. | ||
| Because there's too many people there? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| For no reason. | ||
| Newsweek actually, I think Newsweek reported this. | ||
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| No idea. | ||
| I was going to say, Seamus, would you go together if you want to? | ||
| Here you go, check this out. | ||
| Newsweek, right here. | ||
| Sound them down. | ||
| Freedom viewers forced to evacuate movie theater video shows. | ||
| What? | ||
| So the report actually brings up that there's several different videos where people in various theaters are told for some reason they gotta evacuate the theater and they're given a refund and no explanation why. | ||
| There's like Mr. Smith's all over the place trying to get people, you know, from the Matrix trying to get people to not see it. | ||
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| Horrifically awesome movie, man. | ||
| It's a tough watch, right? | ||
| I mean, it is. | ||
| There are parts that are very painful. | ||
| I'm not sure how much I can say without spoiling it, but it... It almost, um... What's good about it is... | ||
| At the end, you do feel motivated to want to do something, because I don't think, like, just given the nature of the problem, it's not a story that they can just tie in a neat little bow. | ||
| You get that with Hollywood films a lot. | ||
| The problem's solved, everything's fine, and it gives the audience a sense of satisfaction. | ||
| It's a movie that you watch, and it's impactful, and it's more than a worthwhile watch, but you walk out of the theater feeling like there's so much that needs to be done. | ||
| It doesn't just spoon-feed you a victory like so many films do. | ||
| Like an archaeology dig where you find some of the artifact, but you haven't, you've just seen the tip. | ||
| Exactly, exactly. | ||
| You see a little bit of it. | ||
| And there are, like, there are incredible true stories that are told through that film about people who were rescued, and obviously seeing anyone rescued is a wonderful thing to see, but the film doesn't shy away from letting you know that the problem's far from solved, right? | ||
| Like, the day has not been totally saved. | ||
| There's work you have to do. | ||
| There's more children being trafficked today than when slavery was legal. | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| There's more slaves today. | ||
| There's more slaves in the world overall. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Something, what, 80 million slaves in the world? | ||
| I think it is true that there are more child sex slaves today than there were slaves back when slavery was legal. | ||
| Oh, sorry. | ||
| It looks like about 50 million slaves in the world. | ||
| Today? | ||
| Yeah, 50 million people in the world living in slavery as of 2022. | ||
| How do you even begin to tackle that? | ||
| I mean, I guess you do what they did and what Tim Ballard did. | ||
| Well, in the movie they bring this up, like a lot of this stuff is happening outside the U.S. | ||
| We have no control. | ||
| Like, it's just not here. | ||
| You know? | ||
| So that's what Tim Ballard does. | ||
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| I mean... I think he's here tomorrow, actually. | ||
| Oh my god, that's fantastic. | ||
| I wish I was here to just shake his hand, honestly. | ||
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| Bless him. | ||
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It's really... Normally, we don't announce guests in advance. | |
| It was like tears of hope. | ||
| It's like you feel rage, you feel sorrow, you feel hope. | ||
| The film, it takes you on a roller coaster, but the film, it's not just like it's this emotional experience that you'll get from films sometimes where it's totally aimless and they're just manipulating you. | ||
| It's giving you a real story. | ||
| It's telling you about a real problem. | ||
| It's giving you solutions. | ||
| That's so great. | ||
| Valor will be on Tim Guest. | ||
| My goodness. | ||
| With Eduardo Verastegui. | ||
| Oh, he's the director of the film. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| Very excited for that. | ||
| That is huge. | ||
| Gonna be great! | ||
| Maybe I'll push my flight back. | ||
| I just want to shake his hand. | ||
| I know, I want to shake his hand, too. | ||
| I just want to say thank you. | ||
| God bless him. | ||
| His wife, too. | ||
| I hope his wife's here with him. | ||
| I don't know if she's going to take the trip. | ||
| They have a lot of kids. | ||
| Yeah, his wife is an incredible woman. | ||
| I was reading some of the differences between the film and his real story, and I'll let him share on air what he wants to share, what he's here, because it'll be more impactful for him. | ||
| But some of what his wife said was like, just her involvement and support is incredible. | ||
| Incredible like what a sacrifice for a wife to make yeah, but oh jeez well. | ||
| We'll go into it tomorrow This dude's like I know we got a bunch of kids, but I'm gonna save a whole bunch of other people's kids And she's like okay. | ||
| Yeah, do it. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| It's it's it's incredible that was when I first cried is when I I don't want to- I don't think it's spoiling it, but when she- It's too soon. | ||
| It's too soon. | ||
| You gotta let them see it. | ||
| You gotta let them see it. | ||
| You people, everyone, really go see this movie. | ||
| Yeah, I haven't seen it yet. | ||
| I haven't seen it. | ||
| You want to be a part of it. | ||
| Like, this is not a film you want to watch on streaming in a couple months. | ||
| It really is not. | ||
| You want to see this in the theater with fellow audience members. | ||
| How did it even get in the theaters, though? | ||
| That's a good question. | ||
| It's more impactful. | ||
| I'm really confused about that. | ||
| Yeah, because it was pushed around and rebuffed for five years. | ||
| Like, it's actually shocking that it's not just in, you know, they have like indie theaters in cities. | ||
| Like, it's weird to me that, yeah, I don't know. | ||
| Thank goodness. | ||
| No, it's great, but how did that happen? | ||
| Ah, a lot of hard work, prayer, and providence. | ||
| And I'll also mention this, like, just to reaffirm what I'm saying here and help hit this point home, like, you don't want to be watching this at your house, checking your phone, there's distractions everywhere, like, go see this film in theaters, support it as much as you possibly can while it's still out. | ||
| I mean, I really, really, really want to recommend everybody go see this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We gotta call it the Sound of Freedom Effect. | ||
| When, like, we can prove that the issues we care about, we will stop spending money on garbage and we will start spending money on good stuff. | ||
| We'll download apps like Public Square, and we're gonna tell the old guard and the machine we don't need them anymore. | ||
| So a film like this succeeding does two things. | ||
| It makes child trafficking the forefront of major issues that we need to address, and we should. | ||
| Which, of course, the establishment for some reason is very worried about. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And it supports independent studios who are getting major films in theaters. | ||
| But I just want to say outright, the first ten minutes of this movie, man... | ||
| don't give anything away. | ||
| The whole film is brutal but incredibly captivating. | ||
| And I'll say this. | ||
| For every dollar that you didn't spend on Bud Light, you should contribute that to the pay it forward fund for | ||
| this film. | ||
| Think about it. How long have you been boycotting Bud Light? | ||
| How long have you refused to drink it for? | ||
| How much do you usually spend on Bud Light in that time period? | ||
| If you can afford to, I would take all of that money and I would... | ||
| And get drunk on the sound of freedom! | ||
| Amen! | ||
| Get drunk on the sound of freedom. | ||
| Go watch the sound of freedom. | ||
| Pay it forward. | ||
| There's a pay it forward option for people who can't see it. | ||
| Use it. | ||
| Literally, recommend it. | ||
| Recommend it to people. | ||
| Go see this. | ||
| Keep your church group together to go see it. | ||
| They'll pop up a barcode at the end of the movie after the credits where you can scan it with your cell phone to pay it forward for someone else or to find free tickets if you know someone that can't afford it. | ||
| They tell you to do it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They're like, it sounds weird, but pull out your phone right now. | ||
| If you have like an adult's group or young adult's group or something at your church, I'm sure most, I'm sure a lot of churches are already doing this, but this is something that you should plan. | ||
| Y'all should support this. | ||
| Y'all should support this film. | ||
| I can feel like my temperature go up in goosebumps when I think about the like little kids, like young kids. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Well, let's go to Super Chats! | ||
| If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share this show with your friends, and become a member over at TimCast.com by clicking join us. | ||
| We're gonna have a members-only, uncensored show coming up for you tonight, and it will be a lot of good fun. | ||
| We'll talk about some, uh, some, uh, you know, spicy issues. | ||
| Before we get into that, can I just talk very briefly about Gays Against Girls? | ||
|
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Yeah, what's going on? | |
| I just want to say, if you guys want to learn more, we are also in the business of saving kids from the radical alphabet ideology that is destroying the youth right now, that is telling them that they are sexual beings. | ||
| And that they are born in the wrong body. | ||
| And the work we're doing is really important. | ||
| All of us are from, you know, we're all LGB or T, primarily gays and lesbians. | ||
| And if you want to learn more or help us out in our fight, just go to gaysagainstrumors.com. | ||
| And I'd be remiss if I didn't squeeze that in there. | ||
| That's why I'm here. | ||
| First time I've ever heard someone say that they're attempting to make children sexual beings. | ||
| They are. | ||
| They're trying to sexually liberate children. | ||
| and give them bodily autonomy. | ||
| I mean, if a child can consent to sterilizing themselves or chopping body parts off, what can't they consent to? | ||
| It's like the most extreme thing ever, you know, and the line from A to B there is very, very short. | ||
| All right, let's grab some Super Chats! | ||
| I'm Not Your Buddy Guy says, it's interesting the latest season of Jack Ryan has U.S. | ||
| intel agencies being revealed to have been weaponized by Far East powers to do their bidding. | ||
|
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Really? | |
| Not far left powers? | ||
| Jay Marie says, Ian, I love your spirit, bro. | ||
| I have a special way of explaining philosophy, religion, politics, etc. | ||
| in a matter that's very digestible. | ||
| I think you would enjoy Please Swing By, Jay Marie thesis podcast. | ||
|
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Nice. | |
| Ian literally does have the best spirit energy. | ||
| It's a conglomeration of a lot of spirit. | ||
| I can feel it from here, like for real. | ||
| Excellent. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| Mike Kelton says, I finally received my order from you guys, but strangely, it only contains a bunch of spoons and potatoes. | ||
| And I'm talking a lot of spoons, man. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| So look at that. | ||
| Tim blames me for taking his spoons and they show up in somebody's order. | ||
| We gotta cover Spoon Man. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| And do a video with Seamus as the Spoon Man. | ||
| It worked out. | ||
| Why are you putting this on me? | ||
| Why is everybody putting this on me? | ||
| I didn't do anything! | ||
| It actually works out really well because I have to make the joke that crazy people accuse me of stealing their spoons and putting them on the moon. | ||
| Like, I talk about, like, I'm not worried about saying people. | ||
| People can have arguments and, like, people don't like me. | ||
| The worst thing that's ever happened in that regard is, like, I'm walking down the street in New York and someone's like, F you, Tim Pool, and I'm like, oh, hey. | ||
| What worries me is crazy people who are, like, ranting and scratching the walls and they're like, he stole my spoons, man. | ||
| Yeah, so part of why Tim... I get it. | ||
| It was a test. | ||
| Tim said before you host Timcast for a week you have to know what it's like to have a lunatic accuse you of stealing their spoons. | ||
| But in all honesty, you were taking his spoons downstairs and keeping them. | ||
| This is a ridiculous accusation. | ||
| No, it's a ridiculous accusation. | ||
| Where are you coming up with this? | ||
| This is conjecture. | ||
| You're acknowledging this is conjecture? | ||
| That's all I needed to hear. | ||
|
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Thank you. | |
| That's all the audience needed. | ||
| I want to tell everybody the real story. | ||
| No, it's nonsense. | ||
| Allison's doing the dishes and she's like, uh, do you know where the spoons went? | ||
| I was like, oh, Seamus might have them. | ||
| Hey Seamus, do you have some spoons? | ||
| He was like, oh yeah, and he walked up and he put the spoons in the sink. | ||
| And then Seamus goes, there's an Irish man living under my house who steals my spoons! | ||
| How many spoons was it? | ||
| There was, it's not, the whole story's made up, so I have no idea how many spoons there were. | ||
| Look, I'm not the kind of person who would do that! | ||
| I'm not the, you guys, listen, you know me! | ||
| You know me! | ||
| I wouldn't do that! | ||
| I'm not the kind of person who would do that! | ||
| Let's read more Super Chats. | ||
| Heron Gaming News says my girlfriend and I watched The Sound of Freedom. | ||
| My girlfriend couldn't stomach it because of her history of being abused as a child. | ||
| Unlike what the left always says about LGBTQ representation in movies, this one will help save lives and innocents. | ||
| I wonder if she finished the movie. | ||
| I hope she finished the movie. | ||
| I understand that. | ||
| Well, I said this I think yesterday or the day before while I was talking about this, but it's very possible that this is going to be a film some people can't get through. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| However, if you go to see it and you have to get up and walk out of the theater, there's a conversation I was having with my parents. | ||
| My mom said, I want to see it, but I'm worried that, you know, it's going to be too hard for me to watch. | ||
| And what I said is, Go see it, and if you really need to get up and leave the theater, because it's too hardcore for you, it's too difficult to watch, which it very well might be, you will know that your money funded a good cause and helped spread awareness. | ||
| And it's not wasted, because it's not like you're going to see a movie and that it isn't good, so you walk out of it and the money is poorly spent. | ||
| This is an important movie that's raising awareness, even if you can't sit through the whole thing, it's worth buying a ticket and going to see it. | ||
| All right. | ||
| MonkInTraining says, Tim, working all the time the way you are is unhealthy, and your grandpa died because he worked himself to death. | ||
| It's a marathon, not a race. | ||
| I don't think my grandpa worked himself to death. | ||
| That was like really personal, really fast about something they couldn't possibly know. | ||
| Yeah, I'm pretty sure you're completely wrong. | ||
| My grandpa fell off a telephone pole, smashed his vertebrae, and had to spend the last 20 years of his life in a bed. | ||
| That's how I knew he was bedridden. | ||
| Yeah, Blaine. | ||
| Shout out to Blaine. | ||
| What's up, dude? | ||
| One of my grandfathers is still alive. | ||
| The other, uh, got sick. | ||
| He got sick. | ||
| It was a sad story, but... Yeah, sorry to hear it. | ||
| He didn't work himself to death. | ||
| In fact, I think the work was good for him. | ||
| I don't completely disagree, however. | ||
| I do work quite a whole bit. | ||
| However, I have no choice but to take a week off, so I'm kind of like, well, I guess, you know, I'm not going to cry about it. | ||
| I want to do movies with you, as you as the actor. | ||
| Oh, I don't want to do that. | ||
| Yeah, I know, but when you do it, like any good- I mean, you're great at it anyway, but it would be, I don't know, maybe just a change of direction for a little while? | ||
| Like a good feature? | ||
| We're gonna keep doing this. | ||
| Oh, we gotta keep doing this. | ||
| Next week I'm going to a doctor who's going to be, like, injecting my leg with things and, like, the camera and they gotta fix cartilage and stuff. | ||
| We'll do, uh, if you guys would like to see Tim starring in a movie, put one on the show. | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
| But like a day, we'll shoot during the day, we'll do IRL at night. | ||
| Sam is evil. | ||
| Wait, what are you talking about? | ||
| What? | ||
| Did you, did you not mute my, I didn't say anything. | ||
| Alright, let's uh, here we go, here we go. | ||
| I wouldn't do something like that. | ||
| Just Leave Me Alone says, they've extended Sound of Freedom for another week in our theater. | ||
| We're going to see it for the second time Saturday. | ||
| Bought t-shirts too. | ||
| That's fantastic. | ||
| We just want, you know, when the Daily Wire started making movies, I was like, everybody should watch these movies. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We need to encourage studios outside of the creepy, woke Hollywood garbage. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| I totally agree. | ||
| This is it. | ||
| I just, my one hope for the Daily Wire is that they don't start, like, putting Knowles in their films because... Michael Knowles. | ||
| Yeah, he's an actor of sorts and... Smokey Mike. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, I just... Yeah, that would be a real tragedy if Michael Knowles started starring in awesome hit movies. | ||
| To be honest, I'm a hypocrite because I've used him in cartoons and he's done wonderful voice acting for me. | ||
| I would like to see even Daily Wire buy Sound of Freedom once it's cycling out of the theaters and put it on the Daily Wire. | ||
| People will subscribe. | ||
| We got a Dreadnaughts upset. | ||
| He says, Trump running from the basement. | ||
| Are you serious? | ||
| The man fills stadiums doing rallies. | ||
| DeSantis is a neocon shill. | ||
| Trump hasn't filled a stadium since 2020. | ||
| Well, and my point was not engaging in debate. | ||
| So Tucker is doing this forum, and Trump's not going to do it, and Trump doesn't want to debate. | ||
| That's specifically what I was referring to. | ||
| Trump being like, I don't need to, I'm not gonna. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, I think he shouldn't. | ||
| I think he should. | ||
| Not just that one, but the one in August as well. | ||
| You know, it's actually in Milwaukee where I live. | ||
| I really want to go. | ||
| If there's somebody from Fox watching, I know I maybe talked a little poorly about your network a few minutes ago. | ||
| I want to go to the debate. | ||
| Cool. | ||
| Someone make it happen. | ||
| D-Stock says, I really want a Trump Lake ticket. | ||
| Carrie Lake would be an amazing VP. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| I do think there are probably, she's a top contender in my mind, but I do think there may be better picks. | ||
| It's hard to figure out who it would be. | ||
| However, I think Carrie Lake is infinitely better in Arizona, and I think she'd be great winning the Senate seat. | ||
| And I think, I'm pretty sure that's what her plan is. | ||
| I'm just thinking about, Carrie Lake should be No. | ||
| Serving Arizona and then once she's done all she can for Arizona, then she she upgrades to the federal | ||
| So would it be safe to say that the only Republican vice presidential candidate that works is Vivek? | ||
| Ramaswamy no who else could be a VT in the Republican Party? | ||
| Yeah, it's tough. | ||
| I think, like, Byron Don- I mean, Byron is a Trump supporter. | ||
| He's endorsed Trump. | ||
| I think Thomas Massie. | ||
| I think there's a lot of great guys. | ||
| Rand Paul. | ||
| Massie endorsed DeSantis. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| I'm talking if DeSantis is the nominee. | ||
| If Trump is the nominee. | ||
| No, if Trump is the nominee, I'd like to see, like, a Byron Donalds. | ||
| I'd like to see, you know, somebody that's, uh, maybe not Lindsey Graham. | ||
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I don't know. | |
| They're awfully close right now. | ||
| I don't know who Trump could pick. | ||
| Because for the longest time, the only thing anyone was saying was Trump-DeSantis. | ||
| No, that's not happening. | ||
| Dude, Byron Donald's awesome. | ||
| He's great. | ||
| Byron's a good guy, and I think, you know, I mean, demographically, I think it could help. | ||
| Trump has spoken very favorably. | ||
| I don't think Trump will be the nominee. | ||
| He's spoken very favorably, Trump has, of Vivek Ramaswamy. | ||
| There's at least a video I saw where it was like, have you heard of him? | ||
| His name's Vivek Ramaswamy. | ||
| I'm not your buddy guy says RFK is not the way. | ||
| He is crazy on the green stuff. | ||
| He is. | ||
| That's actually true. | ||
| He's a Democrat. | ||
| I don't know his green policy. | ||
| What do you expect? | ||
| He's a Democrat, you know, because he's okay on one issue and is exposing some stuff that, you know, are bringing things to the conversation. | ||
| But he should be the presidential nominee for Democrats. | ||
| I mean, that'd be great. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, anybody but this Biden guy. | ||
| Well, let's not say that because I don't know. | ||
| Be careful what you wish for. | ||
| Yeah, no, no, no. | ||
| No, I wouldn't want to see like an A- well, AOC's still too young, but you know what I mean. | ||
| Here's a good one. | ||
| Tinky Winky says, first time super chat because Serge's comments about John Deere last night triggered me. | ||
| What'd you say? | ||
| I wonder if he knows why they paint them green. | ||
| So they can hide in the grass while the real tractors do the work. | ||
| Red power, baby. | ||
| That's a good one. | ||
| So do farmers have farmer jokes where they're hanging out at the farmer's bar or whatever and it's like, why are John Deere tractors green? | ||
| So they can hide in the grass as the red ones do the real work. | ||
| Is that a thing they do? | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
|
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I don't know. | |
| And all the farmers laugh? | ||
| Was it farmersonly.com or something? | ||
| Yeah, farmersonly.com, that exists. | ||
| Is that a dating site? | ||
| Now I want to look into farmer culture off the farm. | ||
| Well, you know, if you're looking for a significant other, they gotta be able to raise chickens. | ||
| How are you gonna survive an apocalypse, you know? | ||
| But imagine all of the low-quality non-farmers flooding Farmers Only and trying to find farmer mates. | ||
| I almost clicked on it. | ||
| Yeah, I'm one of those weirdos. | ||
| It's like, well, I live in the city, but I'm looking to be a farmer. | ||
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Oh, no. | |
| You're not a farmer. | ||
| It's Farmers Only. | ||
| Is that discrimination? | ||
| Discriminating against someone for their career choice? | ||
| I think that's what every job application does. | ||
| True. | ||
| That has to be allowed, right? | ||
| Let's grab some Super Chats. | ||
| What do we have? | ||
| Diane Reynolds says, no candidate is perfect. | ||
| You need friends in low places sometimes. | ||
| It only matters if they impact his decisions and for that we should judge. | ||
| I mean, yeah, that has happened. | ||
| You know, he said that, didn't he say that Chris Christie recommended Ray? | ||
| Trump did, I mean. | ||
| Skylar Pearson says, Vivek is threatening to go Elon on the federal bureaucracy. | ||
| At least a 75% headcount reduction in the first term. | ||
| Also wants to staff with libertarians and knows the precise laws that empower him to do it. | ||
| I like this Vivek guy. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| He seems like a good dude. | ||
| We will grab some more. | ||
| Adolfo says, Vivek also stated he would fire everyone. | ||
| I could imagine him as VP. | ||
| I mean, that's a powerful ticket, but I just don't know if Vivek has the... There's like a persona, there's like a character, there's like a demeanor, there's like... It's not just about policy, it's not the only thing that matters. | ||
| What matters is... Leadership isn't always just about having the idea, and the example I often give is when I was at Occupy Wall Street, and this guy gets up on the planner and he goes, um, should we march, everybody? | ||
| And everyone just shrugs and looks around, and then some woman goes, Mike Jack! | ||
| And they all scream, let's! | ||
| Effing march! | ||
| And then everyone screams and starts marching. | ||
| That's leadership. | ||
| The idea wasn't good, the ability to rally and convince people was what was needed. | ||
| Important. | ||
| So Vivek has something powerful within him, but he seems more like a cabinet member. | ||
| Like he would be a cabinet member or something, not a VP. | ||
| DeSantis could be a VP. | ||
| Trump could definitely not be a VP. | ||
| He does not have the character or demeanor. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Let's grab some superchats. | ||
| Moose James says, long time listener, first time superchat. | ||
| I just got out of the theater with my dad. | ||
| Sound of Freedom was an amazing movie. | ||
| Depressing and gut-wrenching, but the best movie made in the last 10 years. | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| Really good. | ||
| Really good. | ||
| Yup. | ||
| We will grab some more. | ||
| What do we have? | ||
| What do we have? | ||
| Hunter Killer says, breaking news. | ||
| Tornado hits Chicago suburbs from Elgin to Rosemont. | ||
| Damage control underway. | ||
| Whoa, you want to look that up? | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Chicago doesn't really get tornadoes too often. | ||
| We had like a couple, like, alerts when we were kids. | ||
| You grew up in Chicago? | ||
| Just outside the city, yeah. | ||
| Where? | ||
| Don't dox me. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| Good call. | ||
| We'll have to talk after. | ||
| Actually, well, Tim and I originally, like, when I was really little, we lived in the same neighborhood. | ||
| Seriously? | ||
| Same neighborhood as Jimmy Dore, too. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, that's right. | ||
| Isn't that wild? | ||
| We'll have to talk, actually, because I was born in Chicago and have family that lives in a suburb right outside Chicago. | ||
| That's why I'm interested. | ||
| We'll talk. | ||
| I don't think Seamus was alive when Jimmy was there, though. | ||
| No, there's no way. | ||
| Because I think I was like six years old when Jimmy left. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But it was really cool when I met Jimmy Dore the first time. | ||
| He's like, so where are you from? | ||
| And I'm like, Chicago. | ||
| And he goes, no kidding, me too, where at? | ||
| And I was like, Midway area. | ||
| And he goes, no kidding, me too, where at? | ||
| And I was like, like Midway area, Southside, by Vidham Park. | ||
| And he goes, no kidding, me too. | ||
| And then I was like, I lived on this street, he goes, I live on this street, and it was like a block away. | ||
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That's crazy. | |
| Isn't it wild that like, Tim has such little loyalty, he would accuse someone from the same neighborhood as him of stealing? | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Outlandish. | ||
| Thank you, Ian. | ||
| Seamus, you're evil. | ||
| No, I'm not. | ||
| What percent evil are you? | ||
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I'm not. | |
| You guys know I'm not. | ||
| Are you 13% evil? | ||
| You guys know I'm not evil. | ||
| I'm not. | ||
| I believe you. | ||
| Seamus thinks that he can steal spoons and go to confession. | ||
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| You guys don't know. | ||
| Oh, that's true. | ||
| Well, here's the thing. | ||
| If I actually did steal spoons, I'd have to have a firm resolution to never do it again. | ||
| Yeah, in order to confess, I couldn't. | ||
| Did you secretly keep one of these spoons? | ||
| Is that what you were bringing up? | ||
| But this is completely theoretical. | ||
| I've never done something like this. | ||
| It's a ridiculous accusation. | ||
| Triton54 says, I have to agree with Seamus' version of these spoon events. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| It's common knowledge that the Irish have not evolved to the point of using hand tools. | ||
| That's true, thank you. | ||
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Team Luke. | |
| Thank you. | ||
| Wait, why was you team Luke? | ||
| I'm Irish too! | ||
| Me too. | ||
| Why is that team Luke? | ||
| I don't... Is everybody in here? | ||
| Who's not Irish? | ||
| Who doesn't have Irish DNA? | ||
| Surge is not Irish. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm Irish. | ||
| I'm Scottish. | ||
| Accidentally offensive to all of us. | ||
| How could you? | ||
| That really cleared me. | ||
| I didn't steal. | ||
| I didn't steal. | ||
| You guys know me. | ||
| You guys know the kind of person I am. | ||
| I wouldn't do that. | ||
| Are you Irish too, Jamie? | ||
| No, I'm Jewish. | ||
| But can't Jewish people be Irish? | ||
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Maybe. | |
| Any Irish blood in you at all? | ||
| No, I'm 98% Ashkenazi Jew. | ||
| Let's see it in the comments. | ||
| I'm already expecting it. | ||
| What's the other 2%? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I forget. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| Clifton Stocks says, Tim, I just left the theater and you've been lying to all of us. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Sound of Freedom is better than you've been saying. | ||
| Go see this movie, everyone, and pay it forward. | ||
| God's Children are not for sale. | ||
| I said it was a 10 out of 10, I don't know how it could be better than that. | ||
| You should have said it was at least a 12 out of 10. | ||
| No, to be fair, I did say it's like, it's not, you know, an absolute perfect film, nothing is, but it gets very close in terms of like... | ||
| There are a lot of movies I've watched from where I usually watch a movie every night after the show. | ||
| Like, I'm going to bed, I'll turn a movie on. | ||
| I can't remember half of the movies that I watched. | ||
| They're just like, whatever. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Cause they're boring. | ||
| It's like, you know, I fall asleep half the time. | ||
| But, uh, Sound of Freedom is something I'm not going to forget. | ||
| It's a good movie. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Nefarious was great too, right? | ||
| They've been knocking it. | ||
| I know it's not the same studio. | ||
| Well, Nefarious, remember we just watched that recently too? | ||
| That was so good. | ||
| Really good. | ||
| Really good. | ||
| Oh, I really want to see that. | ||
| You should. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| We really want to see that. | ||
| Matt Kelly says, I think this stream is being suppressed. | ||
| I didn't see this video on my feed like I do every day. | ||
| No notification, nor do I see it in the live tab. | ||
| Is it because of this? | ||
| The thumbnail? | ||
| Oh, actually, yeah, that could be. | ||
| Do you seriously think so? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| I was thinking that. | ||
| I think that's it. | ||
| I told you guys that earlier in the show. | ||
| Seamus was like, don't show that book. | ||
| He was like, no! | ||
| Yeah, definitely, those two words are probably flags for YouTube that knock down viewership. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| But, you know, I- It's your fault. | ||
| I guess so! | ||
| But, uh, it'll have no impact on- But kids can read it. | ||
| Yeah, I hate that, the truth, yeah. | ||
| But this is a children's book. | ||
| You can show it in schools. | ||
| It doesn't matter, we're in Amazon. | ||
| Amazon literally will not- It says it's 18+, but then they show it to kids in schools. | ||
| Here's the issue, this show can't just survive off the idea that YouTube will share it with people. | ||
| Clearly, this person who's posting this super chat sought out the stream by any means necessary to watch it. | ||
| That's what we need. | ||
| If people don't want to watch the show on its merits, then we don't deserve to have people watch the show. | ||
| They shouldn't watch it. | ||
| So that's why I've always been like, look, YouTube censors us sometimes. | ||
| Yeah, well, it is what it is. | ||
| It's good when they give us the bump because people discover it. | ||
| But really, it's about word of mouth. | ||
| For everybody who's like, I'm going to tell people about Sound of Freedom, y'all should be telling people about Viva and Barnes, and Stick Sex and Hammer, and Timcast IRL, and insert other show. | ||
| It's weird, there's one show you didn't mention. | ||
| There's one show you didn't mention, which is kind of crazy. | ||
| Ian Crosland.net. | ||
| Okay, thanks for bringing that up, Seamus. | ||
| Ian Crosland.net. | ||
| And then once you're exhausted, and you're tired, and you have nothing else, and you want to just get a chuckle, you know there's Freedom Tunes. | ||
| There's Freedom Tunes, that's right. | ||
| I guess there is Freedom Tunes. | ||
| I'm more interested in Shamer. | ||
| Oh, Beast! | ||
| Yeah, Rumble.com slash Shamer. | ||
| That's my podcast. | ||
| Thank you, Ian. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Let's grab some more Super Chats. | ||
| What do we have here? | ||
| Matt Bowler says, Tim is beyond illogical by saying it's weird that people who have issues voiced upon them go all in with learning about norms and standards, especially coming from someone who dropped out of school. | ||
| I don't quite understand what your point is. | ||
| I'm not sure how that applies to what I was arguing. | ||
| Can you say that one more time? | ||
| Because I think it was... | ||
| It's weird that people who have issues foist upon them go all in with learning about norms and standards. | ||
| I don't understand what he's trying to say. | ||
| Like, I understand you're making a reference to the argument I made about people who are adamant about issues that have been thrust upon them that they've never experienced before, but I don't know what that has to do with me not going to high school. | ||
| You didn't go to high school? | ||
| No. | ||
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Really? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| What'd you do instead? | ||
| I was on the internet all day. | ||
| Made websites. | ||
| Programmed video games. | ||
| Played music. | ||
| Skateboarded. | ||
|
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Wow. | |
| I didn't know that about you. | ||
| Things that were substantially more productive than sitting around in a school, wasting your time. | ||
| Oh man, talk about it. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| I didn't know that. | ||
| Yeah, I did flash animation. | ||
| Flash 4. | ||
| Back in the day. | ||
| Macromedia Flash. | ||
| I, uh, started teaching myself to animate on Flash 3. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| That, now that was, even then it was very out of date. | ||
| It was like 10 years old at the time. | ||
| How old were you when you started animating? | ||
| Uh, I was 12 when I started teaching myself. | ||
| I used, uh, Shockwave to make a skate video once, cause I didn't know what I was doing, you know? | ||
| And then, um, I think before Premiere was purchased by Adobe, what was it? | ||
| Oh, that's a good question. | ||
| Yeah, uh, Flash was Macromedia. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Macromedia, Flash. | ||
| And then Adobe bought it. | ||
| What was Premiere? | ||
| I can't remember. | ||
| What was Premiere owned by? | ||
| Making skate videos. | ||
| We had digital cameras where it could only take pictures. | ||
| And then we got a mini, mini, uh, what is it? | ||
| A mini DV. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Hi8 was the first camera we got. | ||
| And then we got like this garbage little lens because you needed a wide angle lens to film skate videos. | ||
| So I was basically like learning how to do work in the real world. | ||
| And all of my friends were learning what like interrogative sentences were for the 15th year in a row. | ||
| No joke. | ||
| I'm like, what are you guys learning? | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| It was crazy. | ||
| I had a friend who was going to school for music business. | ||
| And I was like, you're in your third year of college. | ||
| She's like, yeah. | ||
| And I'm like, you're majoring in music business. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How many shows have you put on? | ||
| How many bands have you managed? | ||
| How many demos have you put together? | ||
| And she's like, none. | ||
| And I'm like, isn't it weird that I've managed more shows for bands than you, and you're in college for this? | ||
| It is a weird thing. | ||
| So I went to... I ended up going to school for animation, and there was a class where we were, you know, everyone sort of had to produce a short film, and there were kids who had literally never made an animated short film before. | ||
| It's like, what? | ||
| You're in college for animation? | ||
| You've never, like, just made an animated short by yourself ever? | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| It's crazy that someone thinks, like, this is the thing I want to do, and then they don't... | ||
| like dedicate themselves to it and try to get as good at it as possible. | ||
| It's a bad, oh it's a mistake to think that school is going to make you what | ||
| you what you want to be. You got to make yourself what you want to be. School is | ||
| an opportunity to do it. You can go there and then make yourself | ||
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but you got to do it. Exactly, exactly. | |
| Tyler Brighton says, as an anarchist libertarian I will be voting Trump. | ||
| That one's funny. | ||
| Beast. | ||
| But I can understand that, because even when we've talked to people like Dave Smith, he's been like, yeah, the foreign policy might be something we just want to get. | ||
| It's like, we don't like all of it. | ||
| We think a lot of it's bad. | ||
| We think a lot of what, like, most of what he's doing is bad. | ||
| But it's like, if you can inch forward on a couple good things, do you just take it? | ||
| My bigger issue is, where's the Libertarian Party candidates? | ||
| What's going on? | ||
| Yeah, is there one? | ||
| I mean, is there even one? | ||
| Did they announce one? | ||
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Yeah, I don't know. | |
| Well, they wouldn't announce, like, right? | ||
| The Democratic Party hasn't had a primary yet. | ||
| Republicans haven't. | ||
| But what about their primaries? | ||
| See, it feels like it isn't as early as it is. | ||
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It's like, we're still just out the gate. | |
| A Green Clover says, on deployment, so can't watch the Sound of Freedom. | ||
| Give my super chat to the fund. | ||
| Solid. | ||
| Maybe we can set up a fund, a pay it forward fund for Sound of Freedom. | ||
| We should figure something out. | ||
| Get some people to the movie. | ||
| Guardsman Norheim of the 10th First says, Tim's going to come back from surgery to convert a devout Catholic audience. | ||
| Amen. | ||
| James is going to be like, now that Tim's not here. | ||
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He'll come back and be like, talk about Catholicism more! | |
| Every episode is going to be with a different theological expert. | ||
| The guests are already booked. | ||
| Uh, the unfortunate thing is, I guess, you know, we've gotta, we've gotta inform the guests, like, I'm not gonna be here. | ||
| Uh... You're gonna have to talk to me. | ||
| They're gonna be like, you know what, I think I can... Can we get a rank check? | ||
| Nothing I can do about it, man. | ||
| Like, quite literally... It's like, if, if I don't go now, what ends up happening is, then next week it's a day off for a consultation, then next week it's like two days off for scans, or it's like I can go to a specialist and they're like, we can get it all done in one week. | ||
| Yeah, it's better to just get it over with. | ||
| Super brutal, I have to like sleep in the hospital one night. | ||
| Are you gonna document it? | ||
| No, I don't know about that. | ||
| That'd be pretty cool. | ||
| I'm trying to convince Luke to come out. | ||
| No, ew, why would you do that? | ||
| Not here, to come hang out when, you know, we're out there partying. | ||
| That's even worse! | ||
| You want to subject yourself to him? | ||
| I thought you were punishing your audience, not you. | ||
| You need to heal. | ||
| Luke's looking good on social media. | ||
| Why would you say that? | ||
| Why would you say that? | ||
| That's ridiculous. | ||
| That's a ridiculous thing to say. | ||
| There's no basis for that. | ||
| There's no basis for that. | ||
| That's been widely refuted by every expert on the subject. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Salty says DeSantis' initial reaction to COVID was the same as the left. | ||
| He only backed off his COVID policy because of his very conservative state assembly. | ||
| They pushed the agenda in Florida. | ||
| He has just follows. | ||
| What does that look like with a divided Congress? | ||
| I mean, I think Ron gets a lot of credit for what the Florida Republican Legislature does, too. | ||
| So we should give them credit as well. | ||
| They're the ones that are actually sending the bills to his desk. | ||
| Let's grab some more superchats. | ||
| What do we got here? | ||
| Andrew Waggaman says the use of deepfakes is a lack of integrity. | ||
| If he would own up to it and condemn it, that would show that he has more honesty. | ||
| And that's kind of the issue because like I don't really expect a lot out of Trump in terms of like integrity and stuff. | ||
| I can certainly say I think he might fire people because he's angry at them and wants revenge. | ||
| But the point of Ron is that he's supposed to be better. | ||
| Instead, it's like, what I see with the deepfake thing is him doing what the corporate press has been doing for years in order to win. | ||
| They want Biden to win. | ||
| They want Hillary to win. | ||
| They just make things up. | ||
| Donald Trump posts annoying memes to a lot of people. | ||
| Some people think those memes are funny. | ||
| Donald Trump insults people. | ||
| A lot of people don't like that. | ||
| A lot of people think it's funny. | ||
| There are certainly problems with Trump supporters as well, but I don't like the idea of producing deepfakes with the direct intention of manipulating the public with things that never happened. | ||
| But they did figuratively. | ||
| Yeah, so to make a video that says real-life Trump and intersperse manufactured images with real images in order to trick people... I'm just messing with you now. | ||
| No, but it is funny that it's like... Ron DeSantis is hoping to trick Trump supporters or conservatives into voting for him by making fake images about what Trump did. | ||
| Yeah, he doesn't need to trick them, that's the thing. | ||
| That's exactly, he could have just been like... | ||
| He didn't even need that one second, I don't even know why he did it. | ||
| But guys, you do understand that Ron DeSantis himself did not make the ad. | ||
| Like, you talk about Ron DeSantis, you can talk about the campaign, maybe, but, like, saying you're anti-Ron DeSantis, the person, the politician, the candidate, because of something that, you know, an ad team... Okay? | ||
| I mean, but still, like, I just... I was really just poking fun again, but that's, you know... | ||
| I mean, that's kind of the issue. | ||
| It's like, Ron should have just come out right away. | ||
| He got fact-checked for it. | ||
| He got slammed across the board for it. | ||
| He should have been like, Hey, look, it wasn't me. | ||
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I mean, maybe they did. | |
| How do you know that nobody- Do you know every single person employed by the campaign? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Maybe that person- Yeah, Ron DeSantis should have publicly announced it was a mistake and that he was firing the person responsible. | ||
| Instead, he's just like, Shh, don't tell anyone. | ||
| Let's just let it go away. | ||
| It's like smarmy PR stuff. | ||
| Not a fan. | ||
| I think it's- I think that- I think it's a problem. | ||
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Alright, we will grab some more Super Chats. | |
| Let's see what we got here. | ||
| Marty McFly says, is Jamie's point that DeSantis' deepfake photo is akin to a political cartoon come to life? | ||
| Why can't a political cartoon and now have realism? | ||
| Love the show. | ||
| One of the arguments that was put forward by DeSantis supporters was that Trump had, Republicans had made a deepfake of a future under Joe Biden. | ||
| And it was a bunch of deepfake images of like the apocalypse having happened. | ||
| And it's just like, okay. | ||
| And then DeSantis supporters brought up The Photoshop of Ron riding a rhinoceros, which is very obviously not real. | ||
| It's like there's a big difference between a hypothetical artistic future, a meme, and an image that says real life Trump on it and has fake pictures. | ||
| To be fair, the image didn't even look real. | ||
| It was like clearly artistic, like an artistic rendition. | ||
| The three images they posted alongside the three real images? | ||
| I only know the... I haven't seen the ad in... How long ago was that? | ||
| Again, no sense of time. | ||
| It was end of June. | ||
| Or beginning of June, I think. | ||
| No, it was before then. | ||
| Six weeks ago. | ||
| June 5th? | ||
| Yeah, something like that. | ||
| Five weeks ago. | ||
| I think it was June 5th. | ||
| Okay, I'd have to watch it again. | ||
| The only one that is sticking out in my mind is that I know that really ruffled feathers was, you know, him hugging Fauci. | ||
| There's three fake photos of him hugging Fauci. | ||
| Okay, so they're all hugging Fauci, right? | ||
| And there's three real photos of him, like, standing next to Fauci. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And then they wrote real-life Trump over it. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Yeah, that's like... No, but I already forgot my point that I was trying to make. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| It looks like it was in response to the June 2nd image of Ron riding a rhino, which you should see if you haven't seen it, because he's smiling. | ||
| Oh, no, but what's the difference? | ||
| Okay, so they were artistic renditions. | ||
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Like, they looked like they were... They wrote real-life Trump over it and put it next to real photos. | |
| But they looked like they were AI-generated. | ||
| Like, they did not even look... They didn't. | ||
| They looked real if you didn't examine them. | ||
| I think that they looked like... Oh, you saw them? | ||
| Yeah, no, I, I, the one that's like, you could bring it back up, but like, the one that I have in my head that I can remember clearly looks like, almost like a painting. | ||
| Like, it's not, it doesn't look like a photo, like if I were to just snap a picture right now of you. | ||
| The average person didn't stop the video and then inspect the small 64 by 64 pixel image to determine whether it was real or not. | ||
| I still think the whole thing is silly. | ||
| That's why it was a, it was a week afterwards people figured out he did it, and then people were like, whoa, wait, what? | ||
| We didn't catch that. | ||
| So it's a combination of, it's like, you can make the argument that he made a fake photo and said, this is what Trump does, and then say I was making a gag. | ||
| It's another thing to put three of them next to three real photos and then tag it, real life Trump, and then put subtext, like, put quoted text over it so it's, like, harder to see. | ||
| But what's the difference between that and, like, making a meme, like, making a photo, like, photoshopping something of somebody with somebody? | ||
| Like, like, let's say, you know, a photoshopped picture of a candidate with Like Trump and Hillary. | ||
| I mean, you don't have to photoshop that because that's a real thing. | ||
| People shouldn't make fake things to trick other people to gain political power. | ||
| Okay, we've spent way too much time on this point. | ||
| I enjoyed it personally. | ||
| Kptmarvel says, question for Seamus, isn't a visual portrayal of Christ a violation of the first and second commandment? | ||
| No. | ||
| No, absolutely not. | ||
| I mean, he's the visible face of the Invisible Father. | ||
| That would not be a violation of the commandments. | ||
| Also, basically, he's referring to first and second commandments. | ||
| The way, like, Protestants and Catholics number the Ten Commandments is a bit different. | ||
| So, we consider, like, graven images or idolatry to be lumped in with the first commandment, I'm not taking other gods before him, and it doesn't prohibit you from having images of things, and especially not an image of God, I don't understand how that would even track. | ||
| Alright everybody, if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share this show with your friends, and head over to TimCast.com, click join us. | ||
| We're going to have a members-only uncensored show where many of you as members will actually call in to talk to us and our guest. | ||
| It's going to be a lot of fun. | ||
| So again, smash that like button. | ||
| You can follow the show at TimCast IRL. | ||
| You can follow me personally at TimCast. | ||
| Jamie, you want to shout anything out? | ||
| Yes, you can follow me personally on Twitter at thegaywhostrayed, without an E at the end, and please follow Gays Against Groomers and the work we're doing. | ||
| On Twitter it's againstgrmrs, still left over from the days you couldn't say the word groomer on Twitter. | ||
| Oh wow. | ||
| Yeah, we had to change it and now the other one's taken. | ||
| So, and yeah, just go to gaysagainstgroomers.com to learn more about us or support our fight. | ||
| My name is Seamus Coghlan. | ||
| I make cartoons on a YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes. | ||
| We're going to be releasing one tomorrow on the response to Sound of Freedom that we've seen from the Hollywood establishment. | ||
| I think that you guys are going to enjoy it. | ||
| It's pretty spicy. | ||
| Go over there. | ||
| Like and subscribe. | ||
| I will see you tomorrow. | ||
| God bless. | ||
| And I'm Ian Crossland. | ||
| You guys follow me at iancrossland.net. | ||
| Really just hit me up anywhere on Twitter, Mines, YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, wherever. | ||
| Give me a follow. | ||
| Give me a like. | ||
| Send me a message if you want to. | ||
| I like to read almost all of them if I can. | ||
| And someone mentioned that you should start a drive-in theater. | ||
| I thought that was kind of a cool suggestion. | ||
| Oh, I missed those. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Those were so great. | ||
| Bring it back. | ||
| Good community challenge. | ||
| After every other project we're working on. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Get the 100th coffee shop open. | ||
| Stick it in the queue. | ||
| Have a nice evening, everyone. | ||
| Yeah, likewise. | ||
| I echo that. | ||
| Have a nice evening. | ||
| If you haven't seen the film, Sound of Freedom, I'm gonna go see it. | ||
| Maybe I'll try and get Seamus on a date. | ||
| We'll see if he'll do it. | ||
| We'll hang out, bro. | ||
| We'll definitely go to see the movie. | ||
| When are you gonna go see it? | ||
| We can figure it out. | ||
| I'll see if I'm available, but I'd totally be down. | ||
| Well, now that I know that he's coming tomorrow, I would like to maybe see it tomorrow, but I don't know if that'll happen. | ||
| I got a busy day tomorrow. | ||
| We'll see. | ||
| Anyways, James, I'm Surge.com. | ||
| Let's get to the after show. | ||
| We will see you all over at TimCast.com in a couple minutes. |
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