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July 9, 2023 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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| From the post-millennial, CDC releases guidance for males who want to breastfeed infants. | ||
| I'm just gonna say it outright. | ||
| The massive cocktail of drugs that a man must take to induce lactation will likely transfer into the... | ||
| I guess you can call it chest milk. | ||
| I wouldn't want to call it breast milk because women have breast milk. | ||
| Males have chest milk. | ||
| Already, there have been many women who have talked about this, that when breastfeeding, you have to be careful about what you're eating because it goes into your baby. | ||
| If you're a biological male, And you've got a whole bunch of drugs. | ||
| Actually, I think the Daily Mail might have the- they have a whole list of drugs you gotta take. | ||
| Oh, Jesus. | ||
| So fucked. | ||
| There's a whole bunch of- a big cocktail of drugs you gotta take. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's gonna go into the baby! | ||
| It's gonna go into the baby. | ||
| It's gonna go in the baby for sure. | ||
| I can't believe that this is a thing that the CDC is actually trying to help people do. | ||
| Bonus hole! | ||
| What's so frustrating is that I'm in mom chats with women who had trouble lactating and they were not, as biological women who actually gave birth, they were not offered this protocol. | ||
| Because there's, yeah, I guess in theory you could do it, but there are risks to the baby. | ||
| These drugs, you know, there are other side effects. | ||
| And as biological women, again, who gave birth, doctors said this is not the right thing to do, better to just do it formula. | ||
| But simultaneously, doctors are also offering this to men? | ||
| And this is why I have no trust in the medical establishment anymore. | ||
| Like, this is all about ideology. | ||
| And it's crazy how the left is... I mean, activists, I guess, not all the left, but some people are bending over to defend this. | ||
| I've seen people online say, this milk is actually healthier than female milk. | ||
| These are the exact same hormones. | ||
| These are the exact same hormones that are naturally present in a woman's body. | ||
| I mean, all of these things are just patently false. | ||
| I made a tweet about this because I saw, I think, what's her name? | ||
| Sal Grover. | ||
| Do you know her? | ||
| Let me see if I can pull that tweet up. | ||
| She is a founder of a female social app, and then a trans woman got really mad about it. | ||
| Let me see if I can pull the tweet. | ||
| But I was basically like, women are just mad because men are better at everything, including breastfeeding. | ||
| And now that we can grow babies in bags, we don't even need women anymore. | ||
| What a great future. | ||
| It'll be paradise. | ||
| Just a bunch of dudes hanging out, drinking beers, fighting bears, being bros. | ||
| Chestfeeding their babies. | ||
| Chest-feeding their babies, dude. | ||
| Yeah, that was a tweet from a while ago. | ||
| Let me see if I can- I can find it, because it was about all of this shit. | ||
| Let me, uh, I'm scrolling down. | ||
| It's here somewhere. | ||
| Oh, there was the mass shooter, there's Joe Biden's campaign. | ||
| I saw you tweeted pop culture crisis earlier. | ||
| I did, they're having a good time. | ||
| Five hours. | ||
| Yeah, okay, here we go. | ||
| Yeah, so Sal- uh, Sal Grover, is it? | ||
| Sal Grover? | ||
| How do you pronounce your name? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| She said, if you support men breastfeeding a baby to validate their delusion that they are a woman, you may as well just admit that you think men can do whatever they want and you're a depraved men's rights activist, because that's what this is, depraved. | ||
| And then you have these, like, trans women can breastfeed, and I did breastfeed my child. | ||
| Despite Pilgrim's odd tweet that I simulated breastfeeding, I used the standard protocol created for adoptive mothers. | ||
| It works for trans or cis women. | ||
| Two parents breastfeeding is actually very helpful and healthy. | ||
| Yo, it's true that we can grow babies in bags. | ||
| They grew a sheep in a bag. | ||
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So, uh, I wonder. | |
| You know, with China and their one-child policy, wasn't it the case that people would kill their female babies? | ||
| Yeah, there was infanticide, and that's why a lot of the Chinese babies who were adopted were almost entirely female, because they were the ones who were surrendered. | ||
| So if we've come to the point where people can grow babies in pods, Is the same thing gonna happen where parents are just like, let's just have a boy. | ||
| It's better. | ||
| And then you don't need women to have babies. | ||
| You don't need women to breastfeed. | ||
| Women can't fight bears. | ||
| Guys can fight bears. | ||
| Well, women can fight bears. | ||
| Just not successfully. | ||
| Or just not the actual women. | ||
| I mean, if it's the Leah Thomas type of women, I'm sure she could fight a bear. | ||
| To be fair, men can't fight bears either for the most part. | ||
| Anybody with a gun can fight a bear. | ||
| I can lose to a bear just as well as a woman can lose to a bear. | ||
| I've been saying this for a while that the woke shit from intersectional feminism and whatever has always been pro-masculine. | ||
| All this feminist shit has just helped men. | ||
| Men sitting around playing video games all day while women are working these jobs. | ||
| Men don't have to marry women anymore. | ||
| No responsibility for the guy. | ||
| They get the milk for free. | ||
| Why buy the cow? | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Feminism has been the best thing for lazy, layabout dudes in all of human history. | ||
| Well, like, a woman's supposed to keep a man honest. | ||
| That's a thing, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So a guy, he's running around trying to stick his dick in whatever he can, and the women are supposed to be like, no, you have to be responsible, make a commitment, and actually do work, and the guys are like, okay, I guess. | ||
| Women moderate men. | ||
| Like, that's the way that it's always been. | ||
| Well, it's men... Women control access to sex, but men control access to relationships. | ||
| And right now, both of those paradigms are being completely turned on their heads. | ||
| Like, women are sleeping with the world, and men aren't getting into relationships, and that's why, like, gender dynamics both ways are terrible. | ||
| You think you say men control the gate to relationships because women are willing to communicate with whoever, but the guy has to open up? | ||
| Well, because as a woman, like, you want that long-term commitment. | ||
| So it's easy, it's very easy, it's easy for a woman to convince a man to sleep with her, and I think it's pretty easy for a man to convince a woman to marry him, if that makes sense. | ||
| I was just thinking that today! | ||
| How a girl will just get, like, have a baby and get married to a guy right away when they start dating. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Traditionally, but not today. | ||
| Not today, yeah. | ||
| Things are very different. | ||
| Women want a guy to commit and offer up, you know. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And men want a woman to open up. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so marriage was the, I guess, bargaining, bargain between those two where each person, each party gets, you know, what they're looking for out of the relationship, whether that's sex or long-term protection and commitment through marriage. | ||
| But we're not doing that anymore. | ||
| I just love this. | ||
| This idea that like one day feminists were like, I got an idea. | ||
| Hey guys, guess what? | ||
| We're going to have sex with you and we're not getting married. | ||
| And the guys are like, oh no. | ||
| Dang it. | ||
| No, don't. | ||
| Don't do that. | ||
| No, but it is true. | ||
| There are a lot of guys who do want to get married. | ||
| There's a lot of women who do want a real relationship. | ||
| But I think what's happened is with the way leftism has approached this whole thing of like liberation, feminism, et cetera, and women can do whatever they want. | ||
| All that's really going to happen is they're going to eliminate themselves from the gene pool, and then it will go back to the way things were. | ||
| Is it patriarchy? | ||
| I do not believe that the robot baby thing is actually the future. | ||
| Because the left has very few kids. | ||
| They're just less likely to have kids. | ||
| They're going to sterilize their kids. | ||
| But the problem is, they have less kids, but they're very interested in other people's kids. | ||
| But it's not working. | ||
| Everybody always says that. | ||
| I mean, look at the political persuasions of Gen Z. They're overwhelmingly woke. | ||
| The ones who are conservative are more conservative, but Gen Z is... | ||
| Not true. | ||
| The Pew research, going back to 2018, showed that the first generation in 100 years, Gen Z, ticked slightly more conservative in some areas, and that hasn't happened in 100 years. | ||
| I mean, in some areas, but if you, like, 1 in 4 Gen Z is LGBT. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| 1 in 4. | ||
| What I think happened is, in 2000, conservatives were having, for every 4 conservative kids, there are, I think, 3 liberal kids. | ||
| And this is why we saw that shift in Gen Z, which is slightly more conservative, because they are still fairly progressive, as progressive as millennials. | ||
| But a little bit more conservative in some areas than Millennials, which was surprising. | ||
| Liberals had kids. | ||
| Those kids are far left. | ||
| Conservatives had kids. | ||
| Those kids are fairly moderate. | ||
| The liberal kids are going to have less kids or no kids at all. | ||
| They're sterilizing their kids. | ||
| They're aborting their kids. | ||
| And the conservative kids and families are going to stay in this space for the most part. | ||
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Have you guys? | |
| Oh, sorry. | ||
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| People need to understand that civil war doesn't happen because one day, half the country just splits in half and then goes, now we're fighting each other. | ||
| It's that this is what happens. | ||
| Liberals have more liberal kids, conservatives have conservative kids, and then as the generations move further and further away from each other, eventually they despise each other and they fight. | ||
| It's not necessarily only, like, the rift isn't only broadening through generations, but also states. | ||
| I think states are drifting further and further apart as well. | ||
| But this is migration. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| But people are moving to states that reinforce their values, and that's only deepening the divide. | ||
| So I think, I mean, like, we already see the divide between somewhere like Florida or Tennessee and New York, California. | ||
| That's getting greater and greater. | ||
| It seems like it is. | ||
| I wonder if it actually is or not. | ||
| The way that social media has us looking at certain things, it's like they've turned our heads to focus on one piece of the puzzle. | ||
| But, like, take trans kids. | ||
| I mean, states like Tennessee, Florida, and Texas. | ||
| There's no such thing as trans kids. | ||
| Yeah, well, they're banning, quote, gender affirmation surgeries. | ||
| I don't think that makes sense. | ||
| And places like California is saying that we're going to be a sanctuary state for these. | ||
| for these procedures. | ||
| That's pretty polarized. | ||
| Oh, and Colorado and Oklahoma share a border and one's banned abortion and one's got no restrictions on abortion at all. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So you're gonna have some real fucked up shit going on there. | ||
| But there's such a thing as trans kids. | ||
| That to me sounds like... I don't know what the word is for it. | ||
| The left has their talking points like, you think trans people don't exist? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It doesn't mean anything? | ||
| In my opinion, If I understand correctly, there are gender dysphoric kids, but there are not trans kids. | ||
| But what's the difference between someone who has gender dysphoria and someone who, quote, is trans? | ||
| Well, trans is someone that you would say, OK, well, we'll go ahead and change your pronouns and we'll have... And they've done that. | ||
| Yeah, well, what I'm saying is there should not be any trans kids. | ||
| There aren't any kids that need to transition. | ||
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Yes. | |
| There are gender dysphoric kids that When they reach puberty, their dysphoria is highly likely to abate, but there are no kids that need to be treated as if they are a different gender. | ||
| There are no kids that need to be transitioned. | ||
| That's a better way to say it, because saying there are no trans kids is like, what do you mean? | ||
| There's tons of kids who have been transitioned. | ||
| Yeah, but the point that I'm trying to make is that they don't need to be transitioned. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| Well, I guess the conservative rebuttal would be, are there adults who, quote, need to be transitioned? | ||
| Maybe there aren't, but that's not my position to say, and I'm not in any way interested in trying to tell someone how they have to live their life if they're an adult. | ||
| You guys, you know who Martine Rothblatt is? | ||
| This is the founder of trans, this is the trans, this is the next, he is a trans woman, he became Martine and now he is a she. | ||
| American lawyer, author, entrepreneur, inventor, transgender rights advocate, talks about transgenderism and transhumanism and how they're the same thing. | ||
| I don't know a lot about Martine yet, but Jason Burmiss has told me over and over, this is the person that is attempting to craft a world where people become unisex, like a part of a machine where the babies are being grown in vats and these kinds of things. | ||
| I've got her book. | ||
| Have you ever heard of the term gender abolitionist? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Negative. | ||
| So there are people that want to abolish the concept of gender. | ||
| That just human beings are human beings and there are no men or women. | ||
| I personally think that is not possible. | ||
| It relies too much on electricity. | ||
| Because if the power goes out, we need to reproduce. | ||
| And if we don't have gender, we can't do it without machines. | ||
| So we need to be male and female. | ||
| We need sex. | ||
| There's an argument that gender doesn't exist. | ||
| I agree with that. | ||
| It was invented in the 50s. | ||
| It was a concept. | ||
| It's either man or woman. | ||
| And you know, that's fine, but I don't know that if you were to abolish gender that it would rely on electricity. | ||
| Do you mean specifically trying to abolish sex? | ||
| No, they want to abolish gender. | ||
| They want to abolish the idea that men and women are different. | ||
| Which is completely insane. | ||
| What? | ||
| So sex, they want to abolish sex. | ||
| Yeah, they want to abolish, they want to abolish. | ||
| Do they actually want humans like eunuch, like just bodies that are giving their DNA to a machine to produce? | ||
| I cannot tell you what they want with that much detail. | ||
| But I do know that there are people that are looking to abolish and leave behind the idea of gender. | ||
| And it's not about like, oh, let's just go to biology. | ||
| They want to say that there are no differences between men. | ||
| They want to get rid of the biology. | ||
| Yeah, they want to get rid of the biological difference. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's negative. | ||
| So I don't think gender is real. | ||
| I think gender is a made up term. | ||
| And that's what I always say. | ||
| I think I'm saying some leftist talk point, but I'm just saying like, no, I think gender is a made up word. | ||
| It's not important in my opinion. | ||
| But yeah, they definitely think that's the thing. | ||
| Well, that's what leftists, they did that thing where they, you know, initially they were saying, oh, we're just talking about gender, not sex. | ||
| It's like, yeah, sex is biological, but we're just talking about gender and social constructs. | ||
| That's why I don't like it. | ||
| Yeah, gradually they started including sex into that. | ||
| Now there are leftists who say that biological sex is an even binary because they, I mean, it's like the slippery slope. | ||
| They're eventually just trying to say men and women are completely the same. | ||
| It excites me to think that humans might be diverging into a different species, that one will be, like, away from the computers and they'll just be men, women, as we know, and then the other one will be, like, this hyper-attuned machine man, where they're, like, plugged in from two weeks old, that they lace their brain matter with neural net, and as they're growing, it grows around the net, they exist unisex, like, they have no sex, they just, machine grows, they'll take control of the other humans, the hominids, and call them, like, cattle. | ||
| Doesn't that happen, like, in, uh, like, there's, like, that tabletop game, like, it's called, like, War or something? | ||
| Warhammer? | ||
| Yeah, Warhammer like 40k? | ||
| Doesn't that happen? | ||
| I think so. | ||
| The Mars people are like that and then the people on Earth are not. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm not really, I don't really know. | ||
| I want to show you guys this video real quick because it's an old one. | ||
| It's from like six years ago and it's remarkable where we're at. | ||
| I remember this. | ||
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Give us a brief primer on so many gender identities that in your view require non-traditional pronouns. | |
| Basically it's not correct that there is such a thing as biological | ||
| sex. | ||
| And I'm a historian of medicine, I can unpack that for you at | ||
| great length if you want, but in the interest of time, I won't. | ||
| So this is the famous debate with Jordan Peterson, where the | ||
| historian of medicine says there is no such thing as biological | ||
| sex. I just want to point out, we need some transvestigators on | ||
| this one, because I think this person might be female. | ||
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I think you're right. | |
| Transvestigate. | ||
| You know what that is? | ||
| People on Twitter will be like, this person's trans, and this person's trans. | ||
| Yeah, but this is a... I love it. | ||
| This was a prominent video. | ||
| The funny thing is, when this came out six or so years ago, I would tell people, this is the debate, they'd say, no, shut the fuck up, you're crazy. | ||
| And I'd be like, dude, pay the fuck attention! | ||
| They don't do it. | ||
| Bill Maher famously mocked Dennis Prager over this. | ||
| What It is hard to believe. | ||
| Unless you see it and stop to be like, what? | ||
| Dennis Prager's coming on the show just making things up? | ||
| Bro, whip out your fucking phone and google it! | ||
| Jeez. | ||
| Well, it was the classic left-wing, like, no, this isn't actually happening. | ||
| Okay, but now that it is happening, it is a good thing. | ||
| And if you don't like that it's happening, you're a bigot. | ||
| No, Bill Maher did not say that. | ||
| No, but that was the leftist ploy with the whole, first we're just talking about gender and now we're talking about biology. | ||
| They did the same thing with trans kids. | ||
| No, they're not real. | ||
| Oh, it's just social transitioning. | ||
| Oh, you don't want mutilating surgeries? | ||
| Then you're a bigot. | ||
| I'll tell you a funny story. | ||
| I was playing poker over at Maryland Live and Everybody at the table. | ||
| Like, everybody, every single time. | ||
| 99% of people at poker tables hate wokeness. | ||
| Like, they're not even conservative people. | ||
| That's why I just find it hilarious. | ||
| But so, everyone at this table, I ask them, I'm like, you guys allowed to talk politics here? | ||
| Because some poker rooms don't let you talk politics because people get into fights. | ||
| And they were like, Haven't heard anything about that. | ||
| There's a TV playing the news, and something about men and women's sports came on, and then someone asked about what was going on with this shit he'd been seeing. | ||
| The dealer is just dealing. | ||
| And then I said, well, their argument is that trans women, who are male, are women, so, you know, they can compete in women's sports. | ||
| And then the dealer goes, trans women are female. | ||
| And I went, no, trans women are males. | ||
| And the argument is that trans women are women, but they are still male. | ||
| And he goes, no, trans women are female. | ||
| And then I was like, you are mistaken, sir. | ||
| And then he just like shook his head, like looked really angry, but just kept dealing. | ||
| He was wearing a mask too. | ||
| And I'm just like, the reason I bring this story up. | ||
| They kept saying, there's a difference between gender and sex. | ||
| Now they're arguing there isn't. | ||
| Now they're saying, change your biological sex on your birth certificate. | ||
| The fuck does that have to do with gender if gender is a social construct? | ||
| Same with driver's license. | ||
| Your driver's license doesn't say gender, it says sex. | ||
| But you have people like Dylan Mulvaney who are able to change that. | ||
| And Lauren Southern. | ||
| Right, exactly. | ||
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For insurance. | |
| The idea of transsexual was pretty prevalent in the 90s, but it was rare, but it was prevalently known, the idea of transsexual. | ||
| I don't know why the word's not as popular these days. | ||
| And no lynch mob, I see your post, I do not talk politics at the casino. | ||
| Other people do, and I just typically will just not say a whole lot, unless they're in the conversation. | ||
| I'll ask them questions or something. | ||
| I've my view on the whole trans issue is really it's changed over the past six years because I feel like in the 90s you you mentioned the term transsexual there was what is now referred to as transmedicalism the idea that you are a male born in a female's body and that heck even the brain of a trans person is going to be more like one gender than the other I'm sorry one sex than the other so it actually is a medical condition And that's what it was sold to people like my generation as initially, and I really did buy into it. | ||
| Like, I looked at a trans person, I'm like, okay, you're in the wrong body, but your brain, because, you know, men and women's brains are different, your brain is just wired wrong, and that's very easy for me to, like, accept, okay, this is just a medical condition. | ||
| But the thing is, that was always a lie. | ||
| Those studies were always wrong. | ||
| They were looking at the brains of trans people who were already on cross-sex hormones. | ||
| So, it's just not accurate to say that the whole man and woman's body thing is fake. | ||
| And now, the idea that there needs to be a medical neurological diagnosis, that's referred to as transmedicalism and it's gatekeeping. | ||
| The trans community calls it gatekeeping. | ||
| So, they really are just like they've abandoned any type of, I guess, medical reasoning behind this and they're just going entirely off feelings. | ||
| It's important to point out that men have bigger brains than women. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Yep. | |
| On average? | ||
| It's science. | ||
| 11% bigger than women's. | ||
| I wonder why. | ||
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Is a certain part of the brain that's bigger, do they say? | |
| I don't know. | ||
| What parts of the brain are larger? | ||
| Overall. | ||
| But they do want to say it does not impact intelligence, despite the size difference. | ||
| Men and women's brains are more alike than they are different. | ||
| And what you actually see with this, the bigger Issue is, we don't actually see anything, we don't see a lot related to size in the differences. | ||
| We see the greater male variability. | ||
| You're familiar with that? | ||
| Men are more likely to be developmentally disabled and more likely to be geniuses and women are more likely to be average. | ||
| Yeah, the spread of male intelligence is greater than it is female. | ||
| Females are more clustered around the mean than men are. | ||
| And that means the average woman sees a whole bunch of really dumb-ass guys all the time. | ||
| So I get that. | ||
| This says, uh, the inferior parietal lobule tends to be larger in men, which is linked to mathematics, estimating time, and judging speed. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| So this explains why women can't drive. | ||
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Yes, it does. | |
| Oh, I'm so funny. | ||
| I would make a joke, but I'm an Asian woman. | ||
| I think women drive normal, guys just happen to drive exceptionally well. | ||
| You know where that comes from? | ||
| Why they say that Asian women can't drive? | ||
| So I was talking to a guy I knew who grew up in China. | ||
| He's like a white dude, but he grew up in China, spoke Mandarin and all that stuff. | ||
| And he said what happens is the only people who can afford to leave China and emigrate to the United States could afford drivers and typically didn't drive themselves. | ||
| They would take cabs or something like that. | ||
| So when they come to the United States, They're not going to be spending all this money on private drivers because it's more expensive here. | ||
| They could afford to get here. | ||
| Now they have to drive themselves. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| They don't know how to drive. | ||
| Well, I'm not saying that my family did this, but according to my dad, some people in the Asian community way back when in like Canada and America, they would just have one guy take all the driver's tests because the white people could not tell them apart. | ||
| So I think for a while like you know in the United States there are probably like 50 Asian people that actually had the driver's license and the skills and the rest were just kind of passing off. | ||
| I think the same thing happens in South Korea a lot of the time. | ||
| Everyone's seen the movie Parasite. | ||
| It's also like the same thing like most people that can afford not to drive don't drive. | ||
| They have drivers and then they just come to the country and they don't have to drive. | ||
| This is one of my favorite memes. | ||
| Well, in the defense of women's brains, they have more gray matter than men, on average. | ||
| And the cortex is slightly thicker in women's brains than men's. | ||
| And women can be tetrachromats and see colors men can't. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| It's because we need to pick the berries. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| The accurate berries. | ||
| We got berries everywhere. | ||
| The grapes. | ||
| Yeah, so we juiced the wineberries. | ||
| We made wineberry juice. | ||
| Oh, sweet. | ||
| Super good. | ||
| Where are the grapes? | ||
| I don't know where they are. | ||
| Everywhere! | ||
| I saw the little, the little wineberries, like the little... The wineberries are the red ones that are close to the ground. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| The grape vines take over everything, and they... Have you ever seen, like, a little thing of grapes? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, definitely. | ||
| They look like that, but the grapes are small and green. | ||
| Huh. | ||
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Oh, okay. | |
| We also have black cherries everywhere. | ||
| Yeah, I saw those too. | ||
| Cherry tree finished. | ||
| All its cherries fell off. | ||
| They were like very tart or bitter. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Blackberries are about to come in. | ||
| We got a ton of wineberries. | ||
| There's actually a bunch of dewberries. | ||
| Not here, but- What is a dewberry? | ||
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That sounds adorable. | |
| It's a bramble. | ||
| It's very- They're all sim- Like, wineberries, blackberries, dewberries. | ||
| They're brambles, so they're all very similar looking. | ||
| We have black raspberries. | ||
| All over the place. | ||
| Super awesome. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Let's go to callers! | ||
| Let's pull in some people and talk about barriers with them. | ||
| Alrighty. | ||
| Let us talk. | ||
| I am going to talk to Akrul first. | ||
| How are you, Akrul? | ||
| I know there's been some issues with the Discord audio, so hopefully everything works out for you. | ||
| Bro was texting me earlier. | ||
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Hi. | |
| Yeah, we had some issues earlier. | ||
| Hopefully you can hear me this time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, loud and clear, man. | ||
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Great. | |
| Thanks for taking the call. | ||
| I'm a big fan. | ||
| Phil, I'm a big metal guy. | ||
| I've been following you on Twitter. | ||
| We've been going back and forth just a little bit. | ||
| Cheers, man. | ||
| Yeah, it's been great. | ||
|
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Mark Morton, Lamb of God. | |
| Good stuff on Twitter as well. | ||
| Anyways, question. | ||
| Tim, you talked about Third Amendment earlier. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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How it was used with the government regarding rent, and it has been used also in a case in the 60s about contraception, and I just have this idea that the Third Amendment is very misunderstood. | |
| Like, for example, the First and Second Amendments are huge. | ||
| They kind of define America. | ||
| Fourth, Fifth, Sixth, Seventh, Eighth. | ||
| Huge. | ||
| Ninth is a little bit of a head-scratcher. | ||
| Tenth is good. | ||
| Anyway, the third is, you know, quartering soldiers in your house. | ||
| You kind of think about, there is precedent for it in the past, but you look at it and think, is that really what they mean? | ||
| Could they possibly, sorry my cat's here, could they possibly mean freedom from government influence in your home? | ||
| Ah yes, interesting. | ||
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And that's what the Supreme Court case was about in the 60s regarding contraception. | |
| The government can't be in your home to watch you do it. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| With that, you said earlier on the show as well, all these companies are collecting our data and the government can subpoena and take it. | ||
| They're in our houses. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think that would be Fourth Amendment though. | ||
| Although the Third Amendment does state without consent, they're not allowed to do it without consent. | ||
| So by consent, by people allowing these programs and machines in their homes, they've consented to it. | ||
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Correct, but what are we consenting to? | |
| Are we consenting to the government subpoena and using it against us? | ||
| I think that would be Fourth Amendment, though. | ||
| Unreasonable search and seizure would be fourth. | ||
| I feel like Third Amendment might come up with, I don't know if people like Eric Adams eventually say to New Yorkers, all right, you're taking the migrants, like we have too many of them. | ||
| And he's already asking them to do it voluntarily. | ||
| Who's offering money. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Fuck. | ||
| You consent to the social networks terms of service, which are they're gonna take all your data and hold it in a- It's not your data anymore. | ||
| In a database. | ||
| Oh, that's an interesting point. | ||
| Yeah, once you sign it away to anyone, you've signed it away to everyone, is what you're saying. | ||
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The point is they're taking it from ins- they can be taking it from inside your house. | |
| Yeah, but that's search and seizure. | ||
| So, influence in your home, in the way you're describing it, would be more so like the birth control thing. | ||
| There are some interesting questions. | ||
| They're like, the government couldn't mandate calisthenics in the morning. | ||
| They couldn't mandate you drink orange juice or something like that. | ||
| They couldn't mandate... Get a COVID shot. | ||
| Yeah, they couldn't mandate, like, get a vaccine or anything like that. | ||
| But they found ways to do it. | ||
| I think the Constitution is gone anyway, so it's like, it's almost as... | ||
| It's almost a sad argument to make. | ||
| I mean, the Bill of Rights is gone. | ||
| The 14th Amendment is being beaten to a pulp. | ||
| I mean, it's there, but it's up to us to protect it and enforce it and enact it. | ||
| They've always told us that, too. | ||
| Like, if you don't activate your rights, they disappear. | ||
| You're right, but when an occupying force doesn't abide by this, we're only abiding by the First Amendment among ourselves when we already agree with its tenets. | ||
| So, it's supposed to stop government from infringing on our rights, but our government is under the occupation of crackpot psychopaths, and has been for a long time. | ||
| Well, I feel like the Founding Fathers knew that, that the document was only as good as its enforcement. | ||
| That's why there's also the idea that the Tree of Liberty must be refreshed with the blood of patriots and tyrants alive. | ||
| But he regretted that, and I can't remember exactly what happened. | ||
| That doesn't mean he was wrong? | ||
| He said he was wrong. | ||
| Thomas Jefferson? | ||
| Thomas Jefferson said he was wrong. | ||
| Does that mean he was actually wrong? | ||
| Well, I mean, you can't quote a guy who then later said, you know, I was a mistake. | ||
| Why do you think it was wrong? | ||
| What did he say? | ||
| I can't remember what happened. | ||
| We actually discussed it on the show. | ||
| Someone pointed out that I think Ben Franklin or someone wrote a letter back to him saying, here's what you've missed. | ||
| And he was like, holy crap, good point. | ||
| Yeah, I'm wrong about this. | ||
| Ben Franklin. | ||
| I feel like if we look at what America is today, I know conservatives are like, oh, it's all about the Constitution. | ||
| The Constitution is like, OK, but what has it actually protected, practically speaking? | ||
| It actually did a lot. | ||
| I mean, it's got the First Amendment. | ||
| That's done a good job. | ||
| That's badass. | ||
| And the Second Amendment, too. | ||
| If you look in France at people terrorizing the streets, in America, they'd be getting shot by snipers from their windows. | ||
| On their rooftops. | ||
| But the idea that anything not delegated specifically to the federal government should be the, I guess, the responsibility of the states. | ||
| Has that been listened to? | ||
| Because that's why the Constitution is Swiss cheese. | ||
| The problem, the reason that is all boils down to two different things, the Commerce Clause and the Necessary and Proper Clause. | ||
| Those two things can be handled by, and I think they could be handled by, with less than an amendment, but an amendment could make it clear, look, the Necessary and Proper Clause does not mean the government has carte blanche to do whatever it wants, and the Commerce Clause does not mean that traveling over state lines gives the federal government the ultimate authority over it. | ||
| So those two things alone are the biggest problem with the Constitution. | ||
| Are these, where are they found? | ||
| I'm looking at the Commerce Clause. | ||
| The Commerce Clause is, hold on a second. | ||
| Oh yeah, I got it up. | ||
| Article 1, Section 8, Clause 3. | ||
| Article 1, Section 8 is the Necessary and Proper Clause. | ||
| It's just Section 8 itself. | ||
| So the Commerce Clause is within the Necessary and Proper Clause. | ||
| And essentially what the government, the federal government, you may not have heard this before Ian, but the federal government one time argued successfully that the government could regulate wheat that was being grown by a farmer on his property to feed to his own cows. | ||
| The federal government decided in court that it was acceptable to regulate that under the Commerce Clause. | ||
| The Commerce Clause says that the federal government has the power to make the The commerce between the states regular to regulate it. | ||
| Their argument was because this wheat is being fed to his cows, he's not engaging with the market that exists for wheat or grain or whatever. | ||
| And because of that, it affects international interstate commerce. | ||
| And because it affects interstate commerce, that gives the federal government the power to regulate it. | ||
| So by not interacting with interstate commerce, I'm affecting interstate commerce, and therefore I'm doing interstate commerce. | ||
| I'm not doing it. | ||
| Yes, that was the argument they made. | ||
| Which is exactly why it needs to be pulled back, because it is completely bastardized. | ||
| Totally bastardized. | ||
| I kind of think we got as far as we can get with this one. | ||
| I'm not sure how else we could, like, we're not like constitutional scholars talking about the Third Amendment. | ||
| Yeah, I think it was a badass observation, because this Third Amendment, that's... That's a really good point. | ||
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I think there's something here, I really do, I agree. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| We should definitely be looking into it. | ||
| Cool. | ||
| Right on, man. | ||
| Cheers, my friend. | ||
| Thanks again. | ||
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Thanks, guys. | |
| Shout out. | ||
| Take care, man. | ||
| See ya. | ||
| See ya later. | ||
| Just thinking of a Roomba being activated from a distance. | ||
| We'll talk to Homemaker next. | ||
| Homemaker, how are you? | ||
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Hey, Paul. | |
| Hi. | ||
| Thank you for answering my question. | ||
| My question's actually for Ian, as I'm not understanding your position. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
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Go for it. | |
| As someone who was groomed and abused when I was a kid and subjected to things like porn and understanding the damage it does, I'm not understanding why we need to prepare kids for porn and depravity instead of trying to protect them by teaching them about the dangers of porn and about modesty and waiting, which was super commonplace before the sexual revolution. | ||
| Um, well, I do think that my modesty is important to have a kid not not go hog wild. | ||
| That's really important. | ||
| But what I'm made my main concern is that if a kid sees something on his buddy's cell phone when he's eight, and he doesn't understand what he's looking at, but it's like raw fucking doggy, like horrible, just pain porn. | ||
| Midgets being thrown around. | ||
| I think that's offensive. | ||
| Little people being thrown around. | ||
| When they come back. | ||
| I'm not trying to be funny. | ||
| Like I'm trying to say like they do really weird like you know. | ||
| You see like in like child just the horror most horrible. | ||
| I'm talking like. | ||
| Animals? | ||
| Like umbilical cords are involved. | ||
| Horror. | ||
| The kid's gonna come home and they're not gonna be able to express what they saw with words. | ||
| So you'll be like okay what did you see? | ||
| And they need to be able to tell you Well, otherwise it's going to stay with them forever. | ||
| And that's my concern. | ||
| It'll stay with them forever no matter what. | ||
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Maybe. | |
| Maybe if they can talk about it, though, they'll be able to work through it. | ||
| But then that's like, what, do they show you? | ||
| Do they have to bring you a picture of what they saw? | ||
| I'm not into reliving past trauma, making a kid, see it again. | ||
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This is why we made these things criminal. | |
| Well, I agree with that, but they're still there. | ||
| Well, I think something that's interesting that I'm learning more about as a mom that I think maybe touches a little bit of your point is that, you know, when I was growing up, it was all like your PPE, your princess parts, like it was very like language for the body was kept very general, but they've actually done studies that kids who are able to correctly identify anatomy penis vagina they are less at risk of being like sexually molested because they're able to like articulate what could have happened to them and perhaps like that kind of just fact based this is your body which is not inherently sexual | ||
| Helping children understand that maybe could help them if they do see something express that to a parent so if it does happen the parent is able to counsel them if that makes sense because that's a way where you're not explicitly sexualizing a child or their body or introducing something they wouldn't have seen before but you are preparing them that if it does happen they have the necessary tools to communicate to you that they probably need some some help or guidance or counseling or whatever it may be. | ||
| I got molested when I was like three. | ||
| Three, maybe four, I think. | ||
| Something like that. | ||
| But I went right to my parents. | ||
| My parents had left me with some family, had a neighbor that watched their kids. | ||
| Me and my cousins and stuff were hanging out. | ||
| My parents took off the person watching the kids. | ||
| Did some stuff, nothing brutal or anything like that, but as soon as my parents came back, I was like, mom, dad, blah, blah, blah, and I told them, and it was because I had great parents, I have great parents, my mom, I'm super close to my mom, I didn't feel afraid, and I could articulate what happened, and it wasn't funny names, it wasn't who-whos and blah, blah, blah, it's like I articulated what happened, and it was handled right away. | ||
| And so, like, I don't have any kind of, like, lasting trauma because I knew I could go to my parents because they were, you know, they were awesome about it and because there was, you know, I wasn't beat to crap or anything, thankfully. | ||
| But, like, you need to have kids that understand their own bodies and can articulate what's going on, even if they don't know the deeper context, you know what I mean? | ||
| Because at, you know, three years old, at three years old, you don't know what sex is, you know? | ||
| Yeah, I felt comfortable telling my parents about that kind of thing. | ||
| Like, if a neighbor kid was pouring gasoline on the ground and lighting it on fire, I told them, and they were like, you can never hang out with them again. | ||
| Makes sense. | ||
| Never did. | ||
| But I think, did we answer the question for you? | ||
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Yeah, for the most part. | |
| I understand Ian's position now and understanding that, you know, he's talking about resources after this happens. | ||
| I just think that we need to start focusing more before it happens and telling kids, you know, the dangers of porn. | ||
| Hey, if your friend is trying to show you these naked things or these violent things and stuff, you know, kind of get ahead of it. | ||
| Before we have to get the resources after. | ||
| Because when I was a kid, I learned about this. | ||
| This is junk food. | ||
| This is bad for you. | ||
| I didn't get any type of education in regard to media that this type of media is bad for you. | ||
| It's bad for your brain. | ||
| And I feel like that's something I want to change with my daughter. | ||
| That it's like, you know, you could put garbage into your body and your mind in very, very different ways. | ||
| And I think even like my parents weren't really fully equipped like with the Internet to deal with. | ||
| I mean, some of the things like the people my age were exposed to online. | ||
| Right on. | ||
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All right. | |
| Well, Homemaker, thanks for calling in. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
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Thank you for having me. | |
| Of course. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Pease. | ||
| I like Pease. | ||
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He's really good. | |
| Pease. | ||
| What's up? | ||
| You have time to mute yourself. | ||
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Hey, guys. | |
| Thank you. | ||
| Thank you for taking my call. | ||
| Of course. | ||
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My name is Benjamin from Akron, Ohio. | |
| Shout out to Ian Crossland, brother from the north just up there. | ||
| Fuck yes, dude. | ||
| Akron, dog. | ||
| What's happening? | ||
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My question is more specifically for Tim, but I'd love to hear everybody's input on the matter. | |
| My question is, why doesn't the right, and when I say the right, I'm talking about folks like Tim, Steven Crowder, those of the Daily Wire, Ben Shapiro, Candace Owens, what not, Alex Jones, and many, many more, even smaller influencers like Stixxhex, Amber, and Jeremy Hambly from the Coring. | ||
| Why don't we unite our messaging power to build new cycles And then have the left react to them instead of us reacting to the Daily Mail or, you know, the Postmillennial or CNN or whatever. | ||
| Because I feel like we have the poll to be able to do that. | ||
| And there's so many positive stories that we can condition the average American with. | ||
| For example, good guy with a gun stories, you know, they happen a hundred times. | ||
| Well, definitely not. | ||
| They happen 10,000 times more often than a mass shooting. | ||
| every year and you know if the average American could just hear that for every | ||
| one mass shooting there's 10,000 defensive shootings but I feel like | ||
| people would be more tolerant towards firearm owners and that could be a | ||
| positive influence. | ||
| What do you guys think? | ||
| That's not an issue of a leading story that the right should target. | ||
| That's an issue of a story that's not interesting enough to the average person. | ||
| The right does have its own media ecosystem, and it has its own stories. | ||
| It didn't used to be this way, I mean like 10 years ago, but it's become this way now that there are often stories the left has no idea about. | ||
| Case in point, Joe Biden saying, if you don't fire the prosecutor, you're not getting a billion dollars. | ||
| That was a huge story on the right. | ||
| The left doesn't even know it happened. | ||
| We often do this, they just won't hear it. | ||
| As for good guys with guns stories, they're typically not big enough stories because a good guy saved the day. | ||
| So the average person is gonna be like, oh, that was cool, and then they're gonna move on from the story. | ||
| Whereas when shitloads of people die, it's just everyone's freaked out, even on the right. | ||
| George Floyd is a story that was so big, Ben Shapiro and everyone on the right reacted to it because it was a big story. | ||
| If he didn't die, nobody would react to it. | ||
| BLM might bring it up and no one's gonna care. | ||
| So, I do think we've done a really great job recently. | ||
| If you go to thepostmillennial.com, for instance, they often will have stories you won't see in the New York Times. | ||
| The New York Times will ignore a whole bunch of this shit. | ||
| And so we do often react to those stories, comment on those stories, and share those stories. | ||
| You can't make the left hear it because the New York Times will never pick it up. | ||
| So we just have to take over the media ecosystem, which we've been doing, and I think shows like this are making a difference. | ||
| I think I'm excited for the culture when we're doing there because it's bringing leftists And people of different opinions into a space where their fans will have to hear these things. | ||
| So, uh, I'm fairly confident. | ||
| I think we are getting it. | ||
| I just don't think it's gonna happen overnight. | ||
| We've gotta build an entire machine. | ||
| I think Sound of Freedom is a good example in taking over the media because they beat Indiana Jones yesterday. | ||
| Uh, so, fuck yeah. | ||
| It's just gonna take time. | ||
| We're gonna have to build it up. | ||
| I think we need a hit rock and roll piece of art, at least one, and then you need a follow-up. | ||
| But it needs to be something where, like, 14-year-old girls are screaming at concerts because they're obsessed with whatever it is. | ||
| But it's, like, righteous. | ||
| You are correct, Ian. | ||
| And good. | ||
| The thing is, those songs are typically propped up. | ||
| Like, the reason Taylor Swift had 13 songs in the Billboard Hot 100 is because they go to the- Even the Beatles were propped up. | ||
| All of it is. | ||
| So, you know, look. | ||
| There are songs that will play on Pandora. | ||
| I have no idea why those songs are there. | ||
| I'm like, this band has no followers. | ||
| There's one song I really do like. | ||
| I'm not trying to drag the guy so I won't say his name. | ||
| He has one song. | ||
| It has a few thousand hits on YouTube. | ||
| This song plays on Pandora all the time on like certain indie rock channels. | ||
| Media outlets wrote about this guy and no one knows who it is or ever heard the song before because it's all placement. | ||
| And so when I'm thinking rock and roll, it doesn't have to be music. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Well, we are media. | ||
| We're one aspect. | ||
| And we're growing. | ||
| If we could make something that is rock and roll, could be a movie, could be a song, whatever, it's just hard. | ||
| I mean, Daily Wire is trying to do that. | ||
| You guys are doing stuff as well with music. | ||
| I think it's starting to happen. | ||
| So when we make a movie that's as globally groundbreaking as Brokeback Mountain, and it's on Daily Wire, and all these companies are supporting it, but it's people that we know. | ||
| Okay, how about Citizen Kane? | ||
| It's good as Citizen Kane, too, yeah. | ||
| Oh, thank you. | ||
| But something like that that's as socially conscious as that, that gets through to the core of what we are. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So it is possible to have a viral hit outside the machine. | ||
| It's been done several times. | ||
| We want those things. | ||
| They're not easy to accomplish. | ||
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It's really difficult. | |
| That's why we do what we do. | ||
| So we've got a couple songs coming out soon. | ||
| One song is done. | ||
| Eyes of Advice, music videos in the works. | ||
| Ian has committed, made a pledge and promise to everyone to do one of the most dramatic Hollywood-style transformations for the video. | ||
| We're very excited. | ||
| Oh my gosh, are you cutting your hair? | ||
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No. | |
| Maybe. | ||
| No, I'm not. | ||
| I'm getting ripped. | ||
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Okay. | |
| I'm gonna be 170 pounds of pure fucking muscle. | ||
| I tweeted it. | ||
| On Twitter, I had my pinned post, my New Year's resolution, I'm going to get muscular this year. | ||
| And a month ago, I was like, I'm so done with this bullshit, trying to be something I'm not. | ||
| I took it off. | ||
| I'm happy with who I am as skinny. | ||
| And as soon as I accepted that I was happy who I was, I was like, what will happen if I start working out? | ||
| I just want to see. | ||
| And after 100 pushups one day, I was like, I feel pretty fucking good right now. | ||
| So we've got a music video in the works that requires body transformation, the likes you see with someone like Christian Bale or I think Jared Leto did it as well. | ||
| So Ian's got to do it. | ||
| But the goal here is we've just got to keep making stuff and you hope that eventually you hit it big. | ||
| Eventually, hopefully, maybe not a song that's written by me and produced by Carter, maybe it's someone we end up signing. | ||
| But eventually, we want to get a song out there that people just like so much they share with everybody, and then the industry can't deny it. | ||
| But that's the plan, man. | ||
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If I can say one more thing real quick, don't you think between the entire right wing, though, that we have enough pull to kind of, you know, not necessarily astroturf things like the left, but I guess in a way, astroturf things like the left does. | |
| We did with the video, produced by TimCast News, by the way. | ||
| You guys were on Billboard. | ||
| We did the, uh, we put, we, we, it was our reporter, Aladdin Eliyahu, reporting for TimCast News, who caught the, we are coming for your children, which went so viral, it forced the left to react to it in the corporate press. | ||
| And it made them look ridiculous. | ||
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That was definitely good. | |
| There's no arguing that. | ||
| I was talking more about like people, you know, at Timcast and like, say, Daily Wire and maybe others kind of forming like a little group chat where they're like, OK, we're all going to run this story. | ||
| We're going to force the left to react to it. | ||
| I just feel like between the whole right wing, there's a lot of power there that's untapped and potential energy. | ||
| That won't work. | ||
| Stories like what's happening is everybody in the world says a word or says a sentence and then someone says a sentence that everyone agrees with and so it bubbles up and naturally rises to the top. | ||
| What's happening is, as we succeed in producing content that people like, because Get Woke Go Broke, so we're winning, we gain more resources and ability to spread more and start taking that hill from the woke people who are abandoning it. | ||
| There's no way for us to go to the Daily Wire and be like, hey guys, here's a story we should all talk about. | ||
| It would just not work. | ||
| It would be the weirdest, cringiest thing if everyone all of a sudden was like, we've all decided to talk about this cheese factory that went out of business, and people would be like, I literally don't give a shit about that. | ||
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Yeah, the cheese factory would be a bit weird, but I was thinking more like, say, like a MAGA month celebration type thing, where it's like middle of June and everyone tells their followers, alright guys, go get your American flags. | |
| It's gotta be organic. | ||
| It's gotta be organic. | ||
| Like, if we all got together and said Magamonth, and then it turned into the cringiest thing ever, we would lose cultural influence. | ||
| So we have to rely on merit, not on collectivism. | ||
| You know, getting all of the different factions together and being like, hey, we're 15 people of influence, let's make, you know, this day a holiday for this reason, and then it turns out that the average person finds it to be a stupid idea, we just look silly. | ||
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And I think there should be a base W-E-F. | |
| That's what the wokeness is doing. | ||
| Like, look, this is exactly what's happening. | ||
| The left gets together effectively and says, we're gonna do a bunch of diversity stuff because that's what people want, and then everyone says that's cringe and it's really fucking dumb. | ||
| Where it used to be, we'd make a bunch of movies and the best movie would get the most attention. | ||
| That's what we're trying to do now, and the merit will defeat the collectivism. | ||
| But we are winning. | ||
| You know, I do think we need an organically awesome thing for sure. | ||
| Multiple. | ||
| was a Tim Cass reporter, it went so viral among the average person because everyone | ||
| cared about the story and wanted to know more about it and was shocked by it. NBC News tried | ||
| to write a defense of it, like we're winning on that front, we're getting it. | ||
| You know I do think we need an organically awesome thing for sure, multiple, many many | ||
| many. | ||
| The Bud Light boycott I think is an example of an organic movement. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I do think there is some value to authoritarianism in the creation of systems. | ||
| So you can get together an author that this will be the next big one. | ||
| We just need a big one and it can't be cheap. | ||
| It's got to be the fucking best. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Well, I definitely agree with the sentiment of your message, my friend. | ||
| I guess we'll have to see what will happen. | ||
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Thanks for taking my call. | |
| I appreciate it. | ||
| Thanks for calling in. | ||
| Of course, man. | ||
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Oh, one thing. | |
| Get on Scotty Kilmer. | ||
| You gotta get Scotty Kilmer on this show. | ||
| We'll take a look. | ||
| Scotty Kilmer? | ||
| Not familiar. | ||
| Is he that car guy? | ||
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He's the YouTube mechanic. | |
| He's extremely based. | ||
| He knows a lot about electric vehicles. | ||
| He's hilarious. | ||
| Tell me a lot about fixing cars, actually, funnily enough. | ||
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It would be great. | |
| Yeah, I agree. | ||
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Thank you, guys. | |
| Cool. | ||
| Thanks, man. | ||
| Cheers, man. | ||
| And, of course, we have Tim of 2009. | ||
| Is that? | ||
| Wow, that was a while ago. | ||
| Ed, Ed, and Eddie in your picture there. | ||
| You're live with us now. | ||
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Yes, sir, it is Ed, Ed, and Eddie. | |
| It's Ed, actually. | ||
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Yes. | |
| Nice. | ||
| Thanks for having me. | ||
| Of course. | ||
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So there's been a huge discussion on how we quote-unquote got here as a culture, and I wanted to purport something I feel like that hasn't been talked about much and ask your guys' opinion. | |
| So Warren Sussman, he wrote this book called Culture Has History, talking about American culture, and he purports that at the turn of the 19th and the 20th century, we changed from a quote-unquote culture of character to a culture of personality. | ||
| I just wanted to read a couple words he used to describe both. | ||
| For the culture of character, he used words like citizenship, duty, work, integrity, and he says, above all, manhood. | ||
| Whereas for personality, it's really interesting. | ||
| He says, fascinating, stunning, attractive, magnetic, and other words like that. | ||
| And I was just curious what you guys think on this idea that really one of the biggest influences to our cultural problems is that we've gone from a culture of character to a culture of personality. | ||
| I don't think that makes any sense. | ||
| I actually kind of see the person, because corporations are people, and rich is another word you could throw in there with personality. | ||
| I think corporations are people as viewed by the law. | ||
| Corporations are made of people. | ||
| That's why they're considered people. | ||
| They're legal persons. | ||
| Yeah, they're viewed as a person by the law. | ||
| Talking about personality and how wealthy, how rich they are is how valuable they are. | ||
| Sorry to interrupt. | ||
| No, no, it's okay. | ||
| I think I could see this in, I feel like a lot of people when they were offered their bio and they're defying yourself on MySpace, I think a lot of people have really Leaned into that a lot so we're all worried about like how you define yourself and like writing a bio and stuff like that I understand what this guy is saying But I think that was a really big shift in people's mentality like you have to like People will now view it's important to like you know announce your pronouns and like what you like to do and like all this There's that before like these left-wing meetings and stuff I think people have leaned in so far into that idea that it's important to like you know get it out in front of it people just forget about like | ||
| You know, it doesn't, no one really cares at the end of the day either. | ||
| I don't know, I'm trying to understand what this guy is particularly saying. | ||
| I don't think it makes sense. | ||
| I think it's just, I gotta be honest, to me it sounds like someone trying to sound smart. | ||
| Like, the reality is that different generations had different cultural and moral values. | ||
| And you can try and define it as character or personality, but that doesn't mean anything. | ||
| At all. | ||
| It's kind of like if they people think you're awesome, then you'll become rich and famous and successful. | ||
| But you don't have to be awesome for them to think you are. | ||
| You just got to make them believe it. | ||
| And so we've got this this culture of fake bullshit. | ||
| That's like, who's got the best makeup? | ||
| Who's got the best voice? | ||
| Who's got the best lighting? | ||
| It's as opposed to back in the day, that shit didn't get shit done. | ||
| Like you needed to do the work before to earn the earn the virtue, I guess. | ||
| It is just, uh, we used to be a society of social enforcement. | ||
| Well, honor shame culture. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And now we're a society of, I don't know you and I don't care. | ||
| You know? | ||
| I don't even think personality is the right way to describe it because Everybody's just out for themselves. | ||
| They don't give a shit about you at all. | ||
| Cops don't enforce laws because they don't give a shit. | ||
| They don't want the problem. | ||
| They'll give you a speeding ticket because it's easy and they'll get away with it. | ||
| A cop is more likely to pull you over for speeding than the guy who's waving a gun around because the guy with the gun is dangerous and scary. | ||
| It's easier to do that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's so much easier. | ||
| It's more about, like, selfishness. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I guess what I'm saying is it's narcissistic. | ||
| People care so much about themselves that they just literally don't care about anyone else, and it's just this weird thing that I feel like came out of, like, I guess, like, yeah, like, I'm trying to think, I've figured it out. | ||
| Certainly social media and narcissism are hand in hand. | ||
| The increase of materialism. | ||
| I mean, like, people aren't really seeking the spiritual good. | ||
| We're seeking just hedonistic pleasures, which are inherently narcissistic. | ||
| So there's no search for anything that's a higher meaning. | ||
| It's just like, you know, the buttons they gave the rats where they could just, like, press it and it would, like, trigger their brain to go into orgasm. | ||
| Like, that's essentially what we're doing on social media. | ||
| That's what we're doing with hookup culture, with our fast food. | ||
| You have a great crisis, and children's people die. | ||
| The strong survive. | ||
| The strong people understand meritocracy, they understand honor, they understand purity, and then they have kids, and those kids are more likely to succeed, but those kids, not all of them understand all of it, and humans want to protect each other, preserve those of less moral standing, and then several generations later, you end up with a whole bunch of shitheads who don't believe in hard work, don't believe in responsibility, I think they're entitled to everything, which causes or contributes to a major crisis where shitheads don't make it. | ||
| Like, in various forms. | ||
| So I think, you know, you can look at it kind of like Strassau generational theory. | ||
| It's just every third generation, they squander the gifts of their grandparents or their great-grandparents, and then it causes catastrophe. | ||
| They don't know what it took to maintain a system so good. | ||
| The greatest generation, World War I, World War II, but, you know, as well as with the people who fought in World War I, a great crisis. | ||
| Caused the Great Depression. | ||
| People struggled through this shit, became hardened, and said, in order to survive and succeed, you must be a good person and hold these values true. | ||
| You deserve nothing, you're entitled to nothing, you just have to keep working, and life's not fair. | ||
| Then you get a bunch of people who grew up the hippie generation, where they just do drugs and have sex all day. | ||
| They have a bunch of shithead kids who are super woke and developmentally disabled, and they're burning everything to the ground. | ||
| What's gonna happen? | ||
| The strong will survive. | ||
| And it's the society that comes out of it, after the fourth turning, will be more dedicated to honor and hard work. | ||
| That hippie generation, too, got really fucked by the Vietnam War, because they thought they were doing World War II all over again, a lot of them. | ||
| They thought they were going to fight the good fight, and they came back with no legs, if they came back at all, I think. | ||
| No, you know what? | ||
| No, fucking those people came back. | ||
| The people that came back, came back. | ||
| Hey, look, we got good stuff from the Boomers. | ||
| It wasn't all bad. | ||
| Yeah, they got disenfranchised with the American government, and then the 80s was a bunch of fucking cokehead... whatever. | ||
| But it was this internet called... people that are born with video games where you can reset the game and start over again. | ||
| Like the girl that maces her teacher. | ||
| You don't think you're gonna get your jaw ripped off your face for doing that in like a dog-eat-dog society? | ||
| Pulled mace out on somebody? | ||
| They're gonna kill you. | ||
| That's what's happening in like urban centers and then it's just like literal lawlessness, Mad Max increasingly in places like Chicago. | ||
| And that's like video game culture where people think they can pull someone out of a car because they did it in Grand Theft Auto or whatever when they were nine and they did it a hundred times. | ||
| And they dream about it, because they do it so many times in the game. | ||
| Video games are fucking people. | ||
| It's not the video games, it's the people's abuse of these games. | ||
| They're tricking them. | ||
| Final Fantasy XVI was abuse. | ||
| It was very abusive. | ||
| Did you beat it already? | ||
| That game was fucking terrible. | ||
| I just skip cutscenes these days. | ||
| I feel bad for you, man. | ||
| Did you play it? | ||
| No, but that's why I didn't play it. | ||
| What a fucking awful game. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I'm not going to do that. | ||
| I'm into like turn-based strategy. | ||
| One of the worst games I've ever played. | ||
| I like math and like math problem games like Civilization where you're doing calculations and contingencies and things like that. | ||
| But video games... I think little kids that are four or five years old that are playing a game over and over where you punch someone might end up being more likely to think it's okay to punch someone. | ||
| This is the leftist argument they've been making for a decade. | ||
| Not just leftists. | ||
| I mean, you've got the 90s Christian moms as well. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But one of the big components of Gamergate was that the feminists and leftists wanted to make video games that were referred to as walking simulators. | ||
| And the feminists kept saying, how come all video games have to be components of violence? | ||
| We should change that. | ||
| And they started promoting games on indie. | ||
| They started writing about video games where it's like, you get to walk around and plant flowers and stuff like that. | ||
| But, uh, I don't know. | ||
| Uh, good sir. | ||
| Did we, uh, answer your question? | ||
| I don't, I don't know if, if it was, you know. | ||
| I think it was more of a private discussion. | ||
| I think that's what we did. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't want to pin it all on video games. | ||
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Thanks for answering. | |
| I just wanted to say, it's interesting you brought up, because I have underlined, it says, the vision of self-sacrifice began to yield to that self-realization. | ||
| And so, I don't know, I don't really know who Sussman is, but... | ||
| Yeah, it's really interesting to me, because basically, nobody cares about anybody else. | ||
| We only care about ourselves. | ||
| And it's interesting to see how the roots of this go back almost a hundred years, at least according to this guy, but... Thank you. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Cheers. | ||
| Alright, thanks for calling in. | ||
| Someone asked me what about Final Fantasy XVI was bad. | ||
| Let me try and go quick for you. | ||
| So... | ||
| Man, the combat system is a joke. | ||
| You get elemental abilities, but only the first three really matter. | ||
| They're all trash. | ||
| The Darkness Iconic Ability, complete waste of time, total garbage. | ||
| The Phoenix Power you start with is basically the best, and then you have Garuda and Ramuh, which are good, and all the rest are completely worthless, except for maybe Shiva, but it's all basically just like... | ||
| You know, point and laser, I don't know. | ||
| Bad combat. | ||
| Basically, you just spam R1 if you're scared, and you instantly dodge everything. | ||
| R1 and square... It's just... The fights are ridiculously easy, and effectively non-existent. | ||
| The story has a whole bunch of fluff quests that don't matter to the game, which you should be able to avoid. | ||
| Basically, forced side quests, where it's like... | ||
| You walk up to someone and they're like, before you go on this mission, you need to go talk to this guy. | ||
| And then you do. | ||
| And then he says a bunch of nonsense and wastes your time. | ||
| And then he goes, I better go talk to this lady. | ||
| And I'm like, what the fuck is this? | ||
| What is this? | ||
| It makes you run back and forth in the hideout, the main area, for like 15 minutes and I'm just skip, skip, skip. | ||
| This has nothing to do with the game. | ||
| There are quests where it's like, I'm supposed to go do this thing, but I'm gonna stop here and do something else for no reason. | ||
| It's called a side quest, bro. | ||
| Something to fucking do with the story. | ||
| Then the ending was just so bad. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| So bad. | ||
| You beat it fast. | ||
| It's a short game. | ||
| I feel like they're trying to fluff it up. | ||
| Combat is dumb. | ||
| And the story makes little sense. | ||
| It's dejected, bounces around. | ||
| Ultimately, I was just like, the story's completely one-dimensional. | ||
| Completely one-dimensional. | ||
| I'd give it like a 4 out of 10. | ||
| I've been playing the Horizon games because Burning Shores came out. | ||
| That is a very well-made game, and it's got stupid woke bullshit in it, like, every female- every commander's a woman, and I'm like, dude, if human civilization got wiped out and a bunch of tribal humans emerged in the wake with no knowledge of their past, you would not see every legion being led by women. | ||
| And that's the game. | ||
| But I'm like, whatever. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| They can be women. | ||
| The story's pretty good. | ||
| And the gameplay is good. | ||
| And you can do the side quests or ignore them. | ||
| And it's a fun game with excellent combat mechanics. | ||
| How you fight the robots. | ||
| Final Fantasy XVI is basically a movie that takes too long and has a bunch of stupid cutscenes. | ||
| But I'm not going to go on any longer because it's time for bed. | ||
| Thank you all so much for hanging out. | ||
| Lauren, thanks for hanging out. | ||
| Thanks for having me. | ||
| And we'll see you tomorrow morning, it'll be fun. | ||
| One thing, I don't know if you guys heard, the BlackRock CEO is promoting Bitcoin now. | ||
| Well, we'll talk about it tomorrow. | ||
| Yeah, let's make that topic tomorrow, because it is fucking crazy. | ||
| Thanks for hanging out everybody, and we will check out tomorrow, The Culture War at 10am, youtube.com slash timcast. | ||
| It's gonna be a hoot. |
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