June 27, 2023 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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| CNN has leaked audio of Donald Trump confessing to his crime. | ||
| Yeah, not really. | ||
| It's kind of nonsense audio. | ||
| And a lot of people are like, this is the big breaking story about Trump. | ||
| The audio proves, it doesn't prove anything. | ||
| But we are going to talk about that. | ||
| However, we're not leading with that story. | ||
| And I'm going to tell you why. | ||
| And it matters. | ||
| Because for 8 years, the media has lied about the context of every single story related to Donald Trump. | ||
| And so when they come out, CNN publishes audio and they say, this audio proves something, the rule is you're supposed to wait 3 days. | ||
| Because then invariably something else comes out and goes, actually, that was fake! | ||
| And that seems to be the way it goes. | ||
| So we'll definitely talk about the audio leaks of Donald Trump's conversations pertaining to classified documents. | ||
| But we do have more pressing and important news surrounding censorship, the culture war, and a bunch of other topics. | ||
| So it seems Bud Light sales have dropped to a new record low. | ||
| And finally, finally, Bud Light, Anheuser-Busch, has fired the marketing team. | ||
| Now I know a lot of people thought that it already happened. | ||
| It did not. | ||
| They put him on leave. | ||
| We thought this would blow over and they'd bring these people back. | ||
| Well, surprise, surprise, the boycott is holding, sales are dropping, and they finally said, you're fired. | ||
| So we'll talk about that. | ||
| We're gonna talk about, we got some other news. | ||
| Target is getting heat once again. | ||
| Uh, a producer from Tucker Carlson is coming out, slamming the network because they just nuked the remaining producers from Tucker Carlson. | ||
| I won't talk about that. | ||
| And then, uh, The Quarterly had a big announcement. | ||
| He is... I want to be careful how I phrase this. | ||
| Sort of leaving YouTube, making YouTube a backburner. | ||
| And this is a big shift because we're seeing something similar with Tim Dillon. | ||
| Large, prominent, influential personalities in the political and cultural space all around the same time are announcing that they're moving to Rumble. | ||
| And they're getting off YouTube. | ||
| This is market competition as it works. | ||
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| Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Gene Hamilton. | ||
| Hello, how are y'all? | ||
| Who are you? | ||
| What do you do? | ||
| I am Vice President, General Counsel of America First Legal. | ||
| And we, we're here to fight for the common person for the American for true traditional American values. | ||
| So we represent clients in court, we do all kinds of things to oversight, public attention to things, government overreach, excesses, private corporations, the like. | ||
| Pushing back on wokeness. | ||
| Pushing back on wokeness. | ||
| All of the stuff that we're seeing all over the place, we want to be right in, and we're doing our best right now to get all of it. | ||
| And there is big news coming this week, you were mentioning, with the Supreme Court and affirmative action, so that'll be really interesting to see. | ||
| Maybe we'll get into that later in the show. | ||
| Sounds great. | ||
| Thanks for hanging out, man. | ||
| It should be fun. | ||
| We got Seamus. | ||
| I'm Seamus. | ||
| I have a YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes, where we make animated cartoons. | ||
| We released a video last week where I reviewed and fixed a bunch of left-wing memes. | ||
| They were broken. | ||
| I had to make them funny, and I did. | ||
| So if you guys want to check that out, I think you'll enjoy it. | ||
| We also have a 30-minute long version of that same video, an extended cut, behind the paywall at freedomtunes.com. | ||
| If you guys want to go over there, check that out. | ||
| Become members. | ||
| You'll be able to see it. | ||
| And, uh... I think those are your best. | ||
| The Meme Reviews? | ||
| The Meme Reviews one. | ||
| Thank you, yeah. | ||
| They're a lot of fun. | ||
| The Conspiracy Pyramid was one of the best. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Well, wait until you see The Pride. | ||
| A lot of people were saying The Pride one was the best, so I want to encourage you. | ||
| You've got to watch that one. | ||
| Everyone, you have to watch it. | ||
| You at home, if you love me and want to support my work, I want to watch it. | ||
| Hey guys, Ian Crossland, iancrossland.net. | ||
| Happy to be here. | ||
| Follow me anywhere on the internet, Ian Crossland, if you like me. | ||
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And I'll see you later. | |
| And I'm Serge.com. | ||
| I'm ready to start when you guys are. | ||
| Here's the big news! | ||
| And the big news is not that they leaked audio of Donald Trump because it's been eight years of that. | ||
| I'm so bored with it. | ||
| No, the big news is from the Daily Caller. | ||
| Top Anheuser-Busch marketing executives behind Boycott are no longer employed. | ||
| The top two Anheuser-Busch marketing executives who were placed on leave amid the company shakeup no longer work for the brand. | ||
| A source inside Anheuser-Busch confirmed in texts obtained by the Daily Caller on Tuesday. | ||
| Group vice president for marketing Daniel Blake To my understanding, if we publicly announce the word fire, it opens up the potential for them to sue us. | ||
| to obtain tax messages with the current regional head of marketing. | ||
| The caller is granting anonymity to the source to discuss lengthy, fraught internal company | ||
| policy. | ||
| Quote, to my understanding, if we publicly announce the word fire, it opens up the potential | ||
| for them to sue us. | ||
| That's why we said leave of absence, the source said in a text message obtained by the caller. | ||
| The wholesalers would have had an absolute heyday with leadership if they didn't remove her. | ||
| The source inside the company also said. | ||
| To be fair, Daniel Blake was actually awesome. | ||
| I think he was just caught in the crossfire. | ||
| But also, he did hire her, so that's a fault. | ||
| Wholesalers were told they are both gone for good by leadership during in-person conversations. | ||
| They already shifted all their direct reports to new people and the head of marketing. | ||
| The source added another text message obtained by the caller. | ||
| I'll tell you why this is important. | ||
| What we thought was going to happen, there's a hubbub, some bubble up in the press, after a couple days or a week sales return to normal, the boycott falters, they announce they're coming back from their leap of evidence, or just don't announce anything, and they just slide back into their positions, and everything resumes, and they keep on keeping on. | ||
| But that's not what happened. | ||
| What happened so far is that three months on, Bud Light sales continue to get worse, and now they've officially terminated these individuals. | ||
| Starbucks just had a strike last week because they're telling people to take down pride decorations. | ||
| Target's stock value is collapsing, and a bunch of other brands are reeling because, ladies and gentlemen, Get Woke, Go Broke is becoming more and more powerful. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| You'd love to see it. | ||
| I had a similar expectation when this all began. | ||
| I thought, you know, people are going to stop drinking Bud Light for a little while, but they're going to go back to it. | ||
| I think that when conservatives have tried boycotts in the past, they haven't really stuck to them. | ||
| And, of course, this situation is a little bit different. | ||
| And one key detail I was missing is that you don't have to be a conservative to be disgusted by this kind of thing. | ||
| There's a large subsection in this country which still finds a man in a dress to be very off-putting. | ||
| And so, even without having any kind of organization or political ideology behind it, people said, I'm not drinking that anymore. | ||
| I disagree a little bit. | ||
| I think the average person does not care about a man in a dress. | ||
| And that's why it was tolerated for so long. | ||
| What they care about is, one, it was marketing beer to kids, and two, we're seeing more and more of the grooming stuff. | ||
| Parents started seeing books in schools that were teaching children about adult explicit content, | ||
| and now what's happening is it's causing a backlash that's encompassing more than just | ||
| the core issue, right? So when a parent sees a book like This Book is Gay, which Ian purchased, | ||
| and it teaches children how to use adult sex apps, there's a backlash and everything, | ||
| it's collateral damage. | ||
| So for a long time, you get a guy in a dress, what happens? | ||
| The average default urban liberal or suburban liberal, whatever type, didn't care. | ||
| They say, I don't care what these people are doing in their own homes. | ||
| They're liberals, right? | ||
| So they're like, do whatever you want, live and let live. | ||
| Then these books come out, come in these schools. | ||
| Now they see it and they associate all of it with each other. | ||
| That's why now when Bud Light, it's not just this even, Bud Light sponsoring Toronto Pride, where you've got naked men, you know, gyrating in front of children, so people see that and they're just like, all of it, gone, don't want it, no, sorry, bye bye. | ||
| I agree with you that the grooming and all of the perversity that's come into the limelight in a way that it wasn't before is also factoring into people's decision to boycott, but I would say that People have traditionally and historically still been off-put by seeing a man in a dress. | ||
| I would say that that was the case all the way up until now. | ||
| No, right, right, right, right. | ||
| Like... | ||
| And brands weren't using them as mascots. | ||
| I was looking at old photos from Atlantic City in the 20s, and people are out in summer | ||
| wearing suits. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, it was like, yes, people were offended by people who didn't wear the uniform. | ||
| So like, even up for a long period of time, we got to a point where a guy in drag, a person, | ||
| a cross-dresser, male or female, whatever, was for a long time socially completely unacceptable. | ||
| But with the liberal period, in the past 20 or so years, they said, ah, you live and let live, do your thing, I don't care. | ||
| But what I'm saying now is, yes, people may not like it, but they tolerate it and said, we don't care, we tolerate this. | ||
| Now they're not tolerating it at all. | ||
| Yeah, no, no, I agree. | ||
| I guess my main point is just that, through that period where people were tolerating it, it wasn't because they didn't find it off-putting, they were just willing to allow it to happen somewhere else. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And now that it's affecting them, the pendulum is starting to swing in the other direction. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So then what's the end result? | ||
| Are we going to see more brands back off? | ||
| Did we win? | ||
| Is this, is this the get what go broke? | ||
| Is the, the, the, the brick that got pulled from the tower that causes the total collapse? | ||
| Look, I personally think it's going to depend on the brand, unfortunately. | ||
| If Ben & Jerry's put Dylan Mulvaney on a carton of ice cream, people wouldn't bat an eye, because that's their customer base, right? | ||
| I disagree. | ||
| I just don't know, because that's how far out they are. | ||
| And for most mainstream corporations, families especially, touching on exactly the issue that you just mentioned, which is people don't want this stuff shoved in their face. | ||
| They're tired of it. | ||
| And so for 20 years, people tolerated RuPaul's Drag Shows and all this other stuff. | ||
| Okay, well, they're off doing their own thing in their own life, but now they're doing exactly what's happening. | ||
| But I think I just, with a brand that is extremely liberal like Ben & Jerry's, I don't know. | ||
| With everything else, I think that you're on. | ||
| Not on Ben & Jerry's. | ||
| Ben & Jerry's is a gas station brand. | ||
| Yeah? | ||
| Ben & Jerry's is like Bud Light. | ||
| Sure, they do kooky things, you know, like resist or whatever, but no one cares when they walk in to grab a pint of ice cream. | ||
| They want cookie dough and brownies. | ||
| That's all they care about. | ||
| So when Bud Light became political, In this particular way, people were just like, nope, not buying it, and I think it's because it's now affecting them. | ||
| Ben & Jerry's does a lot of political stuff, but let's be real, a guy walking into a gas station for some cookie dough ice cream doesn't care if it's Haagen-Dazs or Ben & Jerry's. | ||
| Maybe he likes Ben & Jerry's because it's got bigger cookie dough chunks. | ||
| That's about it. | ||
| So if they started... I do think if Ben & Jerry's put Dylan Mulvaney on the carton, it would sell a lot less. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| This just crossed my mind, but I think a big mistake that Bud Light made, Anheuser-Busch, is Dylan's not really... I mean, I'm not going to claim if he's trans or not, but he's an actor, and he's doing camp. | ||
| He's spoken outward that he's making fun of the whole process. | ||
| So it's not like a real trans woman. | ||
| That's like, look, we're identifying gender dysphoria. | ||
| This person is like, we're in support of this community. | ||
| It's Dylan Mulvaney. | ||
| He's a crazy actor. | ||
| He's like, so they almost mocked trans rights and transgenderism by using Dylan as their spokesmodel. | ||
| Well, this is the crazy thing to me. | ||
| I think Dylan's intention is to insult trans people. | ||
| I say it all the time, I don't know how you get anything else from that. | ||
| There was like the recent video where Dylan is on the red carpet and Tony the Tiger comes out | ||
| and Dylan starts panicking and freaking out. I'm like, could you imagine if a white man | ||
| put on blackface and went around and started hooting and hollering? | ||
| Dylan Mulvaney is a comedian and actor who has done a bunch of ridiculous things, | ||
| like the Price is Right video, running around and rolling around on the ground. | ||
| It's like shock jock, Borat-level stuff, for real. | ||
| And so you look at these videos that Dylan's produced, come on, let's be real. | ||
| Dylan singing about having a bulge? | ||
| is just to insult trans people. | ||
| And you know, we had that leftist guest on Friday, Phil Labonte, the other night was saying her whole thing was literally just whatever Tim says, we're gonna say the opposite. | ||
| And that's what ends up happening. | ||
| Dylan Mulvaney comes out, puts on this performance that's insulting and demeaning to women and trans people. | ||
| We criticize Dylan for doing it, so they defend Dylan. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, we're... I don't make the same distinction that you guys do. | ||
| I view all of this the same way, but I'm curious about how the transgender community or people who identify as transgender have responded to Dylan prior to the public backlash. | ||
| Well, look, there are prominent personalities who are trans who speak out against these people. | ||
| And there is, among transgender people, there's a left and a right as well. | ||
| So, I don't think you can hit it all with one broad brushstroke, you know what I mean? | ||
| Bill Mulvaney clearly is a unique character that is putting on a performance and has even said this. | ||
| Dylan Mulvaney did not come out and say they weren't trans, but did say they wanted to move beyond being identified as a trans person. | ||
| Something to that effect. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| No, I don't disagree with you guys at all that Dylan is a particularly obnoxious example, and I don't disagree that people who identify as trans have a wide variety of political views. | ||
| Where I'm saying I don't draw the distinction is I think all of it's insulting to women. | ||
| I think all of it is a caricature of womanhood. | ||
| Oh yeah, no, I'm saying that Dylan's insulting trans people on top of it. | ||
| You know, you can take a look at many... Look, I'll shout out Blaire White and I'll shout out ContraPoints. | ||
| I guess Blaire is considered conservative, I don't know where Blaire stands, and ContraPoints is considered liberal. | ||
| They're both serious people, you can disagree with them, you can have arguments around their ideologies or the way they live their lives, but they're both serious people who present arguments. | ||
| Dylan Mulvaney puts high heels on in the woods, runs around, and then sings about having a bulge, which just demeans and insults trans people. | ||
| Like, I just, it's Borat. | ||
| for it. So that makes me think that maybe Gene, you were onto | ||
| something that if companies were to go with, you know, utilizing | ||
| transgenderism as a marketing tactic, but not going for the campy clownish people as their as their spokespeople, and | ||
| they actually find like genuinely, you know, trans people that | ||
| are like, maybe they've been suffering or whatever. And they | ||
| want to elevate that community somehow I could see that actually not be destroying a company maybe actually helping. | ||
| I mean, I just go back to the RuPaul RuPaul has a show on what | ||
| year, whatever and had a show for decades. | ||
| Rupaul's Drag Race Show and all these other things. | ||
| And so you have these examples of this stuff happening. | ||
| Where you have a base that is conditioned and acculturated to this lifestyle and to this stuff, which, with none of it, I agree with, to be clear. | ||
| Quite the opposite. | ||
| But, when you take a brand like Bud Light, or you take something like anything, I mean, take a Ford Mustang. | ||
| If Ford decided, we're gonna advertise their new Mustang with Dylan Mulvaney. | ||
| But didn't they? | ||
| Did Ford do an advertisement with Dylan Mulvaney? | ||
| No, no, no, they did a Pride rainbow truck. | ||
| Who did the Pride rainbow truck? | ||
| Okay, so somebody did do, I think someone might have done a rainbow truck, but also, to be clear, there's something about the rainbow that puts a layer of abstraction over it. | ||
| I don't think there was an actual picture of somebody like Dylan Mulvaney associated with it. | ||
| Yeah, in 2022. | ||
| Ford did it. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Well, we got an update, too. | ||
| Check this out. | ||
| It's from the New York Post. | ||
| Bud Light sales reached new weekly low following Dylan Mulvaney fiasco. | ||
| Sales of Bud Light suffered their steepest weekly drop. | ||
| I want to stress this all for you. | ||
| Please listen. | ||
| It has been three months. | ||
| Three months later, and the worst week so far. | ||
| 28.5% drop. | ||
| It's getting worse. | ||
| Yo, it's supposed to be easing up three months on. | ||
| I think this is brand death. | ||
| I think, you know, the way I described it earlier is that maybe this is where we wrap a nice little bow around the Bud Light story. | ||
| Dylan Mulvaney destroyed Anheuser-Busch. | ||
| That's wild. Look, the company exists, they'll make money, and I'm not saying they just disappear | ||
| off the face of the earth, but I wonder if we might see a cascade effect that I talked about | ||
| before. Three months on and sales are still getting worse. | ||
| That's crazy. And now they're talking about, so they're doing another free beer giveaway. | ||
| They had Memorial Day, now with the Fourth of July coming up, Bud Light is giving | ||
| away their beer for free. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| Now that's the get-won't-go-broke, man. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Understatement. | ||
| Yeah, no, I think that's very accurate. | ||
| And this entire past Pride Month seems to have been a complete disaster for the left, which I very much enjoyed. | ||
| Part of why I think this was such a massive and strategic error for Bud Light is because not only were they not selling a particularly impressive product, people aren't buying Bud Light out of a sense of brand loyalty, people aren't buying Bud Light because it's the best of the best, people are buying Bud Light because it's inexpensive and it's what they have access to. | ||
| But they also have access to many other beer brands. | ||
| Nobody who's drinking Bud Light is picky about the beer they're drinking, right? | ||
| They could have a product that's not from Anheuser-Busch and enjoy it just as much, if not more. | ||
| So what they did is they tried to force something incredibly controversial onto people with a brand that those people didn't need and had very easily accessible alternatives to. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| 30 or 40 years ago, beer was like, you didn't have that many choices, right? | ||
| There were a lot of it was centralized. | ||
| Then all of a sudden microbrews got super popular. | ||
| And now you've got like 6,000 different choices you can stock your bar with. | ||
| I mean, Bud Light offers $15 beer rebates for 4th of July weekend amid boycott declining sales. | ||
| I chose as neutral of a source as I can. | ||
| They mention that 15 packs of the beer sell for less than $15. | ||
| fifteen dollar beer rebates for fourth of july weekend amid boycott declining | ||
| sales i chose as neutral of a source as i can | ||
| they mentioned that fifteen packs of the beer sell for less than fifteen | ||
| dollars it's not that they're practically free | ||
| they're giving you money So hold on. | ||
| They mention that some of these 15 packs are $12.99 in this article, and that you get a $15 rebate. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, this is a beer company that's giving away its beer for free! | ||
| When I see that... I'm looking at their stock right now. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Anheuser-Busch and Envev in the past six months is down 5.72%. | ||
| In the past month, they've actually recovered 3.8%. | ||
| Yo, the market, often illogical, a beer company that doesn't sell beer, it gives it away for free. | ||
| That's something people apparently have decided they should invest in. | ||
| And so this is something, maybe some people are just trying to buy the dip, they think it's going to get better, I can't imagine anything else explaining that, but I think that there's something very Massive and catastrophic about this, and I mean catastrophic for them. | ||
| Everyone's been saying this is the best example of a conservative boycott I've ever seen. | ||
| This is one of the best examples of a boycott in general I've ever seen. | ||
| When was the last time you saw a brand that was so heavily boycotted they started giving their product away for free? | ||
| I've never seen that happen before. | ||
| Can you guys think of any examples? | ||
| No. | ||
| Of a business that was losing customers at such a rate that they started giving their product away for free and people still weren't taking it? | ||
| I've never seen that happen before. | ||
| Hey look, their stock has rebounded a couple points in the past week or so. | ||
| That could be an example of the people that sold. | ||
| So I'm looking at the last, in May it dropped 20%. | ||
| They went from like 68 bucks to 52 or something like that. | ||
| And, uh, what happened was a bunch of people probably sold. | ||
| Then the rest of the world was like, uh-oh, and then they sold. | ||
| It dropped so low, then those original people that sold bought back. | ||
| So they made some money and they still have the same amount of stock, but then it dropped again. | ||
| You know, obviously people don't want the stuff. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| I think maybe some people are trying to buy the dip because they're thinking this can't go on much longer. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| It's not retail investors. | ||
| That's my guess. | ||
| It's probably firms. | ||
| And they're doing an analysis and they're like, okay, we've seen it stabilize. | ||
| It's been three months. | ||
| You know, we'll buy now and see what happens. | ||
| People will get over it eventually. | ||
| You know, our stock price will go back up. | ||
| I don't know that they will. | ||
| I hope they don't. | ||
| I think they've really done a number on themselves, man. | ||
| Listen, these sales decline at 20.5%. | ||
| is with them offering these crazy rebates. | ||
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Right. | |
| Now they're offering free beer. | ||
| They're like, buy our beer. | ||
| It's $12.99 for a 15-pack. | ||
| You get a $15 rebate. | ||
| They call it practically free. | ||
| I'm like, yo, they're giving you money. | ||
| They're giving you money. | ||
| Up to $15. | ||
| I think they're covering the cost. | ||
| It is just free. | ||
| So they're giving their beer away for free. | ||
| They're trying to stem the bleed. | ||
| If they don't do this, it would be down 50%. | ||
| So they're doing this because they know 4th of July weekend, their sales are going to be in the gutter. | ||
| They've got to do something to keep the number up so that after next week, we can see an improvement. | ||
| I'll also say, I think that bad 4th of July numbers are going to be particularly abysmal. | ||
| That is really going to hurt their market value if they don't see any kind of bump for the holiday. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| I think the other point here is that even with Free beer. | ||
| Free beer. | ||
| Fourth of July weekend. | ||
| If any of y'all are going to barbecues this weekend, who of you will be caught holding a Bud Light? | ||
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No! | |
| Trump, I will make fun of anyone who has it. | ||
| I will make fun of anyone who has it at a barbecue. | ||
| How about this? | ||
| Shelby Talcott tweets, Maga Mimosa, the featured drink at the NH Federation of Republican Women Lilac Luncheon, where Trump is scheduled to speak shortly. | ||
| And there's a Bud Light, Budweiser. | ||
| And I think, is Stella? | ||
| Is Stella an Anheuser Brand? | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| I don't know, but they got Bud Light right there. | ||
| Wouldn't it be hysterical if Trump just started trashing Bud Light while he was there? | ||
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He's like, I heard some people are saying there was some Bud Light here, like, I don't like Bud Light, quite frankly. | |
| That would be the nail in the coffin. | ||
| We went to an event in West Virginia, it was like a Republican speech being given, and they had a drink, you know, minibar set up, no Bud Light. | ||
| And I walked up, and the guy opened the fridge, and I could see Bud Light in the fridge. | ||
| And I was like, oh, I see you got Bud Light down there. | ||
| He's like, yeah, we don't have it out, though, because it's like they have the stock. | ||
| If someone asks for it, we'll sell to them, but nobody's gonna buy it. | ||
| And I'm like, yeah, okay, so all the Anheuser-Busch products were pulled. | ||
| When we did our event in Texas, we actually told the bar no Anheuser-Busch products. | ||
| They can't even do that at this Republican event? | ||
| Here's a question. | ||
| Here's a tough one for all of you. | ||
| Trump is guaranteed to win in 2024, but you have to drink a Bud Light. | ||
| Do you do it? | ||
| Do you throw that Bud Light back? | ||
| You'd let people take a picture of you holding a Bud Light, Tim Pool? | ||
| If it meant Trump is guaranteed to win? | ||
| Here's the thing. | ||
| No, no, I don't think you would. | ||
| Because he wouldn't pardon you for it. | ||
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He'd be like, Tim, drink that Bud Light. | |
| It was awful. | ||
| Have you seen anything so awful? | ||
| Don't say it! | ||
| Don't say it! | ||
| It's gonna get clipped! | ||
| Don't you say anything about how you drink Bud Light. | ||
| I will sacrifice for the greater good of this country by drinking a Bud Light. | ||
| It means it guaranteed Donald Trump the election. | ||
| Yeah, Stella is AB in Bev. | ||
| Look at that, Stella. | ||
| Tim, I couldn't let you do it. | ||
| I said, Tim, no. | ||
| There have been people who have been willing to sacrifice everything to save everyone, Seamus. | ||
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Oh man, look- And you're saying you- if they said- I was just asking you, quite frankly, I wanted to see your answer. | |
| So hold on. | ||
| I don't think Trump's gonna pardon you. | ||
| They come to you and say, Donald Trump- okay, a time traveler comes. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| And he says, Seamus, you understand the butterfly effect, right? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Okay, I'm telling you right now, if you let me take this picture of you drinking a Bud Light, Trump will get elected. | ||
| You wouldn't do it! | ||
| I would not do evil that good might come of it. | ||
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| Yeah, I would drink the bitch. | ||
| Would you do a keg stand? | ||
| Bud Light keg stand? | ||
| And take it all. | ||
| No, Modelo. | ||
| You'd do a Modelo? | ||
| Modelo's fine, though, right? | ||
| I don't know, is Modelo AB in dev? | ||
| No, but seriously, come on. | ||
| Like, I know it's fantastical. | ||
| No, it's just good to know you feel that way, you know? | ||
| Is this, like, Trump-sanctioned? | ||
| Yeah, Modelo's also AB in dev. | ||
| No, it's not the United States, it's Constellation Brands. | ||
| Fact check! | ||
| We got it on their website, AB InBev, our brands. | ||
| Yep, outside of the United States. | ||
| So in the U.S., where sales are skyrocketing, it's owned by Constellation Brands, an antitrust lawsuit. | ||
| Oh yeah, we do not own this delicious beer in the U.S., that's a disclaimer on their website. | ||
| Wow, it says that, it's interesting. | ||
| Okay, so did Trump- Come on! | ||
| If there was some definitive proof, the oracle of time, the CIA's time device, you could look into it and it was like, if all Trump supporters started drinking Bud Light right now- It's the CIA! | ||
| I wouldn't trust it! | ||
| It's the CIA's time-telling device! | ||
| They're only trying to get us to drink Bud Light to boost their sales! | ||
| That's why they're pulling this whole prank! | ||
| Trump supporters discover an alien device that can show them the future, And they see a possible future where if they all start drinking Bud Light again, Trump wins, they would. | ||
| Dude, Bud Light's gonna sigh up us into thinking that this is the truth. | ||
| We're like, let's kill the wake, get him re-elected. | ||
| That's their marketing strategy. | ||
| We look to the future! | ||
| It's the only way. | ||
| The only way for Trump to win. | ||
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Oh my goodness. | |
| Actually, to be honest though, I think it would be the opposite. | ||
| I think if conservatives actually gave in and did not boycott these brands, without a doubt Trump would lose. | ||
| The fact that we're seeing so many regular people and conservatives actually sustain a boycott suggests to me there will be the ground, the possible ground force for a Trump victory. | ||
| Yeah, well I think it's also just indicative of the fact that your average person isn't interested in having this nonsense forced on them. | ||
| As we were discussing earlier, for a while people were okay letting these things happen far away from them where they wouldn't have to see it, but once you start putting in their face they go, you know what? | ||
| If it's either you stop doing this or it gets forced on me, I choose that you stop doing it because I'm starting to feel like the whole live and let live thing was always a lie. | ||
| Well, let's talk about what's causing this, because Ian actually purchased this book that's been the subject of great controversy, and I have this tweet. | ||
| I looked up on Amazon, this book is gay, it's called, and Ian has purchased it right here. | ||
| On the back it says, this book is for, underlined, everyone, regardless of gender or sexual preference, this book is for anyone who's ever dared to wonder. | ||
| This book is for you. | ||
| They sell it to 14 to 17 year olds on Amazon. | ||
| Amazon says reading age is 14 to 17, you can see here at the bottom. | ||
| Yet in the book, it teaches you and explains how to use adult sex apps. | ||
| Yeah, explicitly. | ||
| So this is what happens. | ||
| You have, for whatever reason, people on the left, either because they're overt pedophiles or because overt tribalists will We'll defend anything that the right opposes. | ||
| You end up with a book like this in grade schools. | ||
| There's a teacher who provided this book to her middle schoolers and they called the police on her and she was removed. | ||
| And this is what happens. | ||
| A teacher provided this book to middle schoolers. | ||
| The book shows pictures of sex acts, explains extremely disgusting activities that would cause serious illness. | ||
| Like, okay, what people need to understand is there are activities that people engage in when it comes to adult stuff that will injure you and give you infections and diseases, and I'm talking about E. coli. | ||
| And I don't want to be gross, but let's just I'm gonna have to describe it for y'all. | ||
| We try to keep it family-friendly, so earmuffs for your kids. | ||
| But the book describes consuming feces. | ||
| Okay, you can die from things like this. | ||
| Wait, are you serious? | ||
| I didn't even know that was in there. | ||
| I knew this was perverse. | ||
| I didn't know that. | ||
| Oh my gosh. | ||
| I'm fairly certain. | ||
| I haven't seen that part yet. | ||
| I'm fairly certain. | ||
| We talked about that before. | ||
| I want to double check, but I'm pretty sure it talks about Yeah. | ||
| Look, maybe, and also maybe I shouldn't be so surprised, right, because there's a lot of perversity associated with this particular set of life choices. | ||
| I understand where, why someone might think this is a good idea, because like, okay, they're thinking kids don't have enough sexual education, we need to prep these young kids that don't have good family lives ahead of time. | ||
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It does. | |
| Confirmed. | ||
| Oh my gosh. | ||
| Yeah, here, let me see. | ||
| No, I don't think there's an excuse for it. | ||
| Dude, that is sickening. | ||
| That is sickening. | ||
| Jail. | ||
| Jail. | ||
| So, to clarify though, the description is in the glossary explaining what the act is and how to do it. | ||
| So, when parents see this stuff, they say, I don't want my kid reading that. | ||
| And what happens? | ||
| You get that woman from the majority report, Emma, being like, I don't believe in censorship. | ||
| I'm like, should this be in school? | ||
| She's like, well, I don't agree with censorship. | ||
| She wants kids to read this stuff. | ||
| But then you ask her if Penthouse should be in schools and then the conversation just Changed after that like she didn't say yes, and she didn't really say no. | ||
| I don't think I don't remember exactly But it's a good point. | ||
| Do you want penthouse in schools? | ||
| Do you want like nudie magazines and for 13 and 14 year olds to look at there's pictures of nude? | ||
| There's a drawing of a naked woman right in there on like page what I don't know 188 or something like that like Explicit with arrows pointing to the different private parts and like that's a kids need to understand private parts. | ||
| Those are private Those are for you if someone ever messes with your privacy and your private you tell an adult you tell your parents like that is This kind of... But I'm coming from a different generation, man. | ||
| I didn't have the internet until I was like 14. | ||
| I didn't see porn until I was 14. | ||
| I didn't... And for young kids that slip onto some of that at the age of 6, I don't know. | ||
| It's a different reality for me, how you teach kids about this kind of thing. | ||
| It even has a... They drew a picture of Grindr. | ||
| Oh my gosh. | ||
| Like in the back. | ||
| Explains what a glory hole is. | ||
| On page 182, it says, note, Grindr is specifically for 18 and up. | ||
| Emma said it was a good book when it was brought up, by the way, too. | ||
| She's like, oh, it's good. | ||
| And then you guys were like, well, there's a description of gay hookup apps, and someone was showing this to 10-year-olds, and she's like, why do you get these anecdotes? | ||
| If a child reads this, and comes in the back, and comes to the back, that explains consuming feces, you could die. | ||
| Why would Amazon think a 14 to 17 year old should be reading something like this? | ||
| And they make the argument that, oh, kids have access to the internet these days. | ||
| Maybe they shouldn't! | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| These websites are supposed to have blocks on them. | ||
| You're not supposed to allow kids to be looking at this stuff. | ||
| The idea that, well, no, kids can see other disgusting things in other disgusting places, so let's show them disgusting things in their school where they ideally should be safe from this kind of perversity. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| It even explains amyl nitrate. | ||
| Wasn't that like bath salts, or is that like how you... What is that? | ||
| I'm not gonna get into it. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| It's a substance used in... Like crazy sex parties and all that stuff? | ||
| We'll leave it at that. | ||
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| Yeah. | ||
| Man, on 182, they're like, Grindr is explicitly... This is what I don't get. | ||
| I understand you want to tell a kid ahead of time things they gotta watch out for in life. | ||
| And here are the phone numbers in the back of organizations to call to get more information and more access. | ||
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That's disgusting. | |
| But they call it advocacy wholly. | ||
| There's a difference between warning children about what's to come and showing them how to do the things they're not supposed to do. | ||
| When it says, this is for 18 and up, this app, but here's exactly how you use it. | ||
| You upload a photo. | ||
| And it says, you upload a photo. | ||
| It tells them, you do it. | ||
| You do this thing. | ||
| I'm going to read it piece by piece. | ||
| It's just so disturbing. | ||
| Note, Grindr also has an age minimum of 18 years old. | ||
| It's in bold. | ||
| Then the next paragraph. | ||
| How sex apps work. | ||
| Upload a tiny pic of yourself to the app. | ||
| Like, it's for 18 year olds! | ||
| You don't tell them how to do it? | ||
| Also the idea that you can get away with something like that in a book that's being marketed to children by simply saying, oh you have to be 18 or up. | ||
| Well, this stuff is in schools. | ||
| It's being shown to children. | ||
| Amazon's selling it to children as young as 14 years old. | ||
| There was a teacher who was showing it to 10-year-olds. | ||
| And the idea that you would give somebody a guide on how to use these hookup apps, as if it's rocket science and you need a guide to know how to log in. | ||
| You're clearly directing these kids to do this. | ||
| Like, you're clearly directing them to do this. | ||
| So sick. | ||
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So sick. | |
| And so, the main point was, Amazon says, 14 to 17-year-olds, What do you think would happen if you went to a playground with a bunch of 14-year-olds and started teaching them how to use Grindr? | ||
| Jail! | ||
| You'd be arrested. | ||
| As you should be. | ||
| Yep, rightfully so. | ||
| But when it comes to what they're doing in schools, it's all protected. | ||
| And then when we ask a simple question to a leftist who comes on this show, who comes on the Culture War podcast, how hard is it for them to just be like, now I get it, those books shouldn't be in school? | ||
| Instead they say, I don't believe in censorship, so allow it. | ||
| And I'm like, what? | ||
| Yeah, no, but if you wanted to have a Bible in a school library, right? | ||
| It's so funny how two-faced they are. | ||
| It's clear that they're not interested in either free speech or combating censorship | ||
| because none of them were saying that schools not being able to teach creationism meant | ||
| that Christians didn't have free speech. | ||
| All the arguments they're making for this perverse nonsense are arguments that they obviously didn't make in favor of people teaching their children their values about the Christian faith. | ||
| They weren't saying, Kids get old enough, they're gonna learn about Christianity anyway, so we should tell them about it now. | ||
| Like, that's kept as far away from public schools as possible, but guidebooks that teach children how to eat feces and use gay hookup apps are not kept away from schools for some reason, and when someone tries to keep it away from schools, we call them a tyrant. | ||
| That's where our culture's at right now. | ||
| Look, parents call the police on a teacher who showed this to their kids. | ||
| To the middle school kids. | ||
| Good for them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is why Target's getting stock dropped. | ||
| This is why Bud Light's suffering. | ||
| Because these companies, they're just marching along like, don't know, don't care, we're just gonna do whatever we're told to do. | ||
| And parents are saying, no. | ||
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| Nah, we've had enough of this stuff. | ||
| There was that, remember Nick Merckx, the gamer? | ||
| When he was like, leave the kids alone, and they went nuts on him. | ||
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| And I guess the sentiment was, he recently became a father. | ||
| Yup. | ||
| Now you get it. | ||
| Now you're like, how dare you show my children these things? | ||
| And parents started seeing it, and now there's a backlash. | ||
| I think this could be one of the Democrats' biggest weaknesses. | ||
| Trump was recently at a rally, and he was like, you know, I could talk, I'm paraphrasing, but he said something like, I talk about lowering taxes, nobody cares, I talk about culture war stuff, everybody starts cheering. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Because taxes are like a boring thing we deal with periodically and try and figure out the right number. | ||
| Typically we want it to go down. | ||
| Everybody wants it to go down. | ||
| But right now we're dealing with an existential threat targeting children. | ||
| This has got people riled up like crazy. | ||
| Yeah, and again, rightfully so. | ||
| I'm curious, what path forward do you see here? | ||
| What do you think families should be doing? | ||
| What do you think it's possible to do within the guidelines of the law, also as a lawyer? | ||
| I mean, who can be sued? | ||
| Who can charges be pressed against for these kinds of things? | ||
| Look, I mean, there's a lot of parents who are stepping up across the country who are saying no more and doing things like, I mean, look, if you're a parent and you have a teacher showing your kids explosive material, You should, I think, and under the right circumstances, report it to law enforcement. | ||
| But you also have all kinds of other ways that you can do things. | ||
| You can sue the school district. | ||
| You can demand that the materials are removed from the libraries. | ||
| I mean, just simple steps. | ||
| Showing up. | ||
| Going to school board meetings. | ||
| Showing up. | ||
| Talking to your teachers. | ||
| Talking to your principals. | ||
| Because ultimately, You know, we are in that place, I think, as a culture, as a country, where it is a societal inflection point. | ||
| Whereas, you know, which direction do we go? | ||
| Do we tolerate more of this? | ||
| Because that's what we're going to get if we don't stop it, right? | ||
| Or do we say no enough is enough? | ||
| And so a lot of folks are using the courts, using courts of public opinion to advance the ball and try to defend I wouldn't say even conservative values. | ||
| I mean, they are conservative values, but just traditional American values, human values, things that have been understood for millennia and that now are just being tolerated. | ||
| That book is disgusting. | ||
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It has no place in a school. | |
| Snopes highlighted a chapter, a section from the book. | ||
| I want to find it in the book. | ||
| Who put the notes in the book? | ||
| Was that was it? | ||
| Garrett did that. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| So maybe, maybe the notes show, uh, no. | ||
| There's a, is that it? | ||
| How to argue with Sodom and Gomorrah? | ||
| Yeah, so Ian and I were going back and forth between the show. | ||
| He was like reading the supposed, like, these objections to the Bible and they were all very weak. | ||
| They're all very bad. | ||
| And also objections to Islamic teaching on it. | ||
| The book instructs young kids, I'm going to say kids because it's sold to 14 to 17 year olds. | ||
| The book instructs kids how to argue against religion, Christianity, Islam. | ||
| I want to talk about gay sex. | ||
| So right at the beginning of the chapter that starts talking about sex, it says, | ||
| this chapter is about sex, therefore it has sex in it. Well, duh. If you're a younger reader and | ||
| you feel you aren't ready for the finer details of same-sex pairings, then simply skip this whole | ||
| chapter. However, before you do, I'd like to remind you that we taught you all about straight | ||
| sex when you were 11 years old during sixth grade. | ||
| The fact that they didn't also teach you what same-sex couples do is nothing less than institutionalized homophobia. | ||
| Straight sex was presented as the norm to make 5% of the population feel abnormal. | ||
| Is there something icky about gay sex? | ||
| Is there something wrong with it? | ||
| I challenge any politician to discuss this with me. | ||
| I will ruin them. | ||
| This chapter is simply all the stuff teachers should be saying if they want to be inclusive of people with same-sex feelings. | ||
| Two things I want to point out. | ||
| The first sentence, the first couple of sentences in the introduction is, if you feel you aren't ready, skip this. | ||
| It then says, however, before you do, I want to remind you, meaning, if you're not ready, consider why you should read it anyway. | ||
| That's kind of insane, but more importantly, When we teach sex ed in schools, we are not explaining to children how to use bondage gear. | ||
| We're not teaching children about sex clubs or apps. | ||
| Sex education is about reproduction. | ||
| Maybe I'm wrong, and if it's happening, it shouldn't be, but What I understand about sex ed is it's like, here are the reproductive organs. | ||
| Here's how they work. | ||
| Thank you, students. | ||
| Here's the test. | ||
| Or if they even have one. | ||
| This book is... | ||
| Eating poop? | ||
| That's wild. | ||
| There's other parts in there that I can't even begin to describe. | ||
| I know. | ||
| I want a full, uncensored discussion on this book. | ||
| But that is not sex ed. | ||
| That is fetish education. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| It's perversity education. | ||
| And they're trying to justify it like, but we taught kids about general reproduction, therefore you should teach them about Eating feces? | ||
| Like, what? | ||
| Yeah, no. | ||
| That's disgusting. | ||
| That is what's making parents say, enough. | ||
| Well, and also, I think this is something people fail to realize. | ||
| There's a conversation I very distinctly remember having in high school. | ||
| Another student said to me, while we were in our sex ed class, and they were being completely unironic, they said, how do you think people figured this stuff out before they had sex ed? | ||
| And I said, People don't need to go take a class to know how to have sex. | ||
| The purpose of sex ed is to tell you what not to do, right? | ||
| You're going to get older, you're going to become an adult, you're going to start engaging in these activities. | ||
| What's important is that when you were young, when you were developing, your parents ideally had a conversation with you about what the boundaries are and the things that you shouldn't be doing. | ||
| Because you're going to figure out what you can do. | ||
| I don't think it goes that... I think that's over the top. | ||
| Sex Ed when I was a kid was like, here is a diagram of the male reproductive organs. | ||
| Well, but when I say what not to do, by the way, I'm not saying I'm not saying like giving people details on these kinds of things and saying don't do that kids. | ||
| I mean just telling them this is this is sex. | ||
| This is what it does. | ||
| It makes people and it's it's something you should do with your spouse and not with someone before you meet Your spouse. | ||
| That's what I mean by what you should not do. | ||
| It was there to place a restriction, to let people know, these are the things that are going to make your life more difficult if you do them. | ||
| Ideally, you're going to wait until you're married, you're going to get married, you're going to have a family. | ||
| Don't go fooling around outside of marriage. | ||
| We had a super chat earlier. | ||
| Someone said that they were out of booze for the rest of the week, and they were hoping I would not say two specific words. | ||
| Because otherwise they would have to drink if I said these two words. | ||
| Sooner, Rick Scott. | ||
| I know what words. Can I say them? Definitely civil. | ||
| You can say it, because if I say it, they have to drink, but if you say it, it's okay. | ||
| Just point to me whenever you want. Civil war. | ||
| So we have this tweet from Rick Scott. He said, I'm warning socialists and communists | ||
| not to travel to Florida. They are not welcome in the Sunshine State. | ||
| I'm going to play the clip for you. | ||
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Senator Rick Scott here. | |
| Let me give you a travel warning. | ||
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If you're a socialist, communist, somebody that believes in big government, I would think twice. | |
| Think twice if you're thinking about taking a vacation or moving to Florida. | ||
| We're the free state of Florida. | ||
| We actually don't believe in socialism. | ||
| We actually know people, and some people want to say lived under it. | ||
| We know people lived under socialism. | ||
| It's not good. | ||
| It's not good for anybody. | ||
| So if you're thinking about it, if you think about coming to Florida and you're a socialist or communist, Think twice. | ||
| We like freedom, liberty, capitalism, things like that. | ||
| Say it! | ||
| Civil War. | ||
| I am kidding, by the way. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But a lot of people were tweeting about it and tweeting at me. | ||
| Yeah, they're freaking out. | ||
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What? | |
| I can't go to the place that I'm constantly claiming is the worst part of America? | ||
| No, you can't. | ||
| You should be happy. | ||
| There is something about people- You still can, he's just telling you you won't like it. | ||
| No, no, you can't. | ||
| I'm fine with them thinking they can't. | ||
| There's definitely an aspect of taking things for granted in the modern age that I don't think a lot of people understand. | ||
| That if they trashed this country, what kind of lockdown could actually, like, what could be lost? | ||
| By the way- The ability to walk around freely and stuff like that. | ||
| Do you think that if Gavin Newsom or some governor of a left-wing state went, no fascists are welcome here, that people would be going, whoa, he's excluding people based on their politics. | ||
| What about tolerance? | ||
| What's happening? | ||
| What would happen to tolerance, man? | ||
| I gotta be honest, if Gavin Newsom made a video and he said fascists aren't welcome in California, I'd be like, okay. | ||
| I'd be like, how did you get elected? | ||
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Right. | |
| But my view is that doesn't apply to any of us. | ||
| It's just a term that means bad guy. | ||
| So it's like, okay, whatever. | ||
| But when he said socialists and communists aren't welcome, leftists legitimately got mad. | ||
| They were like, how dare you! | ||
| They're like, well, why not? | ||
| Yeah, why can't it? | ||
| What is this? | ||
| We make everywhere we go better. | ||
| I saw, I think it was a tweet from Michael Mallison. | ||
| He was just, he said something about like the fracturing of the states is going as planned or something like that. | ||
| I should actually pull that one up. | ||
| Try and find it. | ||
| But yeah, I mean, I don't take it seriously, to be completely honest. | ||
| But I do think that when you look at the election in Florida, when you look at, here's what Michael Malice said, our nation's growing ideological self-segregation is proceeding nicely. | ||
| Actually, it's a really good point. | ||
| It is. | ||
| People leaving California who are more conservative leaning, going to Texas and Florida, people leaving New York for the same reason. | ||
| Where does his self-segregation lead to? | ||
| I just love that he says he's warning them. | ||
| I'm warning you! | ||
| You're not welcome! | ||
| A decentralized federation of state authority. | ||
| I mean, I think that's kind of what we're supposed to lead. | ||
| That's where we were, that's where we came from. | ||
| And then what happens when you have... It's one thing when California's a sanctuary state, and they let illegal immigrants, criminal immigrants, enter their state. | ||
| But then, these people who enter can now easily access any other part of the country. | ||
| So what happens when you're Arizona, dealing with a border crisis, and then California keeps their border open, lets people come in illegally, and then, very easily, they cross into Arizona? | ||
| Okay, if this hyperpolarization keeps happening, Arizona sets up a border. | ||
| They set up a checkpoint. | ||
| And they say, we have way too many people coming in from California that we don't know if are citizens, so we're gonna do a border checkpoint, and now you gotta show your ID if you wanna get through. | ||
| You know, it's reasonable. | ||
| It's a big inconvenience for 99.9% of the people going from California to Arizona, but it's maybe for a weekend they could try it. | ||
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I don't know. | |
| That's a big cost. | ||
| Not that much. | ||
| Just administrative costs, I'm thinking. | ||
| Putting a booth. | ||
| I don't think it's that expensive to put a couple booths on a few highways that go in and out of the state. | ||
| Do they, like, check the trunk of every car that came by and stuff? | ||
| No, they just stop and say, howdy, what's your business in Arizona, where you headed? | ||
| And then I'm just driving through, I'm like, okay, have a nice day. | ||
| Can I see your ID kind of thing? | ||
| Got an ID. | ||
| So if you don't have an ID, you won't be able to go across state border? | ||
| I'm not saying it's a good thing, I'm saying that's where we head. | ||
| That's where we go. | ||
| We're getting to the point where, look, we've already talked about how in some of these blue states, there's child sex change sanctuaries. | ||
| There's already the fear. | ||
| This is what I'm worried about. | ||
| Some kid on TikTok sees all these videos, Finds a book like this, calls the number, meets a stranger on the internet who says, I'll drive you to Washington and get you your treatment. | ||
| Effectively kidnapping the kid, bring him to Washington, and Washington says it's legal. | ||
| Now what happens if you're in Montana or Wyoming? | ||
| Wyoming is the number one Trump-supporting state in the country. | ||
| What happens if you're from Wyoming and someone takes your kid and brings him to Washington? | ||
| Now you've got a very, very serious border dispute because Washington said, oh, that guy who kidnapped your kid? | ||
| He was doing your kid a favor. | ||
| And then you say, I want my kid returned to me, and they say, no, because you're the criminal. | ||
| Federal government doesn't intervene. | ||
| What happens? | ||
| You are going to get Wyoming being like, we're going to set up checkpoints to make sure people aren't kidnapping children to bring them to Washington for lewd and lascivious reasons. | ||
| Yeah, you've got to have the feds. | ||
| The feds are supposed to protect- They're not going to do it! | ||
| That's the only way to prevent these states from going rogue is to have federal enforcement and oversight. | ||
| You need to protect- Then you're talking about stronger federal law enforcement and we don't have that. | ||
| If anything, the feds will protect Washington and the kidnapper. | ||
| That's so messed up. | ||
| Yeah, even under Trump. | ||
| Even under Trump. | ||
| Trump made the mistake of thinking that these people would operate any differently. | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| Who are these people? | ||
| The FBI. | ||
| Trump, Trump, Trump literally thought- I can't- That dude made so many mistakes in trusting these people over and over and over again. | ||
| Yeah, it was like he was on autopilot. | ||
| That was weird. | ||
| I think he just actually had faith in the system. | ||
| I think Trump thought it was busted, but he could fix it, and he saw the general good in the United States. | ||
| I think now it's the opposite. | ||
| Now he's like, these people are corrupt, the whole thing's gotta go. | ||
| But this is my point. | ||
| When we're looking at Rick Scott jokingly say socialists and commies don't come here and then the left actually gets mad because they actually are socialists and commies. | ||
| Like we're heading to a dark place. | ||
| How would you guys define socialist? | ||
| What would make somebody a socialist? | ||
| Public ownership of the means of production? | ||
| Yeah, so, yeah, communism is like worker ownership over the means of production and then how socialism is different from communism changes based on who you're talking to. | ||
| Some say that, like, social... I think, as a general rule, when you look at how they've operated in the world, communism usually happens because of, like, some revolution or state takeover and socialism is usually voted in, but that's not actually definitive. | ||
| Well, they... Some say socialism is economic and communism is political. | ||
| Yeah, well, people say communism encompasses everything, right? | ||
| So even your culture becomes modified by it, where socialism just refers to econ. | ||
| But there are a bunch of different ways people define it, and I've heard it defined even by official sources multiple different ways. | ||
| So, like, every communist state is socialist, but every socialist state is not necessarily communist? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, I suppose so. | ||
| What would that be, like, state ownership is communist, but if it's just state... Communism is typically characterized by a single party controlling everything in like an authoritarian or authorocratic mean. | ||
| Gulagging people, disappearing people. | ||
| Socialism is where the people own everything. | ||
| Socialism can actually... Socialism is interesting because there's like a threshold for it, right? | ||
| If you're looking at a spectrum, you could argue America is a capitalist country, right? | ||
| Yeah, except half of our money is taxed and goes to the public. | ||
| So actually the United States is not a capitalist economy, it's a mixed economy. | ||
| At a certain point, you can call it socialist or capitalist. | ||
| What's that line? | ||
| Up to you. | ||
| Maybe 70%? | ||
| If 70% of your income is kept by you and 30% goes to the public, that's the threshold for being a capitalist country. | ||
| Anything from 70 up to 100 of the money you keep is capitalist, and then anything in between is mixed, and then 70% taxation and higher is socialist? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| To be fair, it's not just about government taxation. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Socialism is basically like, the workers own the factory. | ||
| Communism is like, everyone owns everything, but there's actually a military in control and they'll execute you if you disagree. | ||
| But it can be a bit vague. | ||
| The simple thing is, socialism is basic economics. | ||
| The further you go towards the public owning everything, is the further you go towards socialism. | ||
| The further you go towards private ownership, the further you go towards capitalism. | ||
| And capitalism is better. | ||
| Yeah, unquestionably. | ||
| Yeah, I think also, like, just in terms of how the word is usually understood, communism has much more baggage associated with it on the cultural question, which I think is part of why people associate it with a complete cultural takeover, and because it's also what you saw in communist states like the USSR or communist China. | ||
| And so people will almost view socialism as just sort of a moderate form of communism, but that's not really an accurate way of looking at it either. | ||
| We have a lot of people pointing out there already are border checkpoints. | ||
| Some saying when you generally stop at state borders to pay tolls already. | ||
| So those could easily be modified to stop and check your ID. | ||
| Other people mentioned that there are way stations and agricultural checkpoints already between states. | ||
| I'm saying it becomes like Country to country, effectively. | ||
| Arizona's dealing with a mass influx of illegal immigrants. | ||
| Texas is as well. | ||
| At a certain point, they might just be like, we have to control our borders. | ||
| But that would be like, if someone, because there'll be vans and trucks, you need to stop the van, come around out back, open the van, look through their stuff. | ||
| Dog walks around the truck. | ||
| Yep, absolutely. | ||
| That's a lot of, a lot of labor. | ||
| It sure is, and I'm saying... I don't know if it's a bad thing, though. | ||
| Whether you think it's good or bad is not the point. | ||
| What matters is, If we are segregating to this degree, it will happen. | ||
| When COVID happened, they had checkpoints. | ||
| I think Connecticut had checkpoints because they didn't want New Yorkers fleeing because of the lockdowns into Connecticut for safe haven. | ||
| So they were like checking license plates and stuff like that. | ||
| Yo, crazy. | ||
| And who would have ever thought that would have happened before COVID, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| To your point. | ||
| Now it's like, You know, Europe used to have checkpoints between the countries, and then you get the European Union and the Schengen Zone. | ||
| But I think the U.S. | ||
| is actually headed in that direction. | ||
| Because you're gonna have, I think Wyoming and Washington are a really good example. | ||
| I think you got Idaho in between. | ||
| So maybe it'll be Idaho, actually. | ||
| Idaho's a pretty conservative spot. | ||
| And they're gonna get issues. | ||
| Wyoming's gonna be like, why are you allowing these people to take our kids through your state? | ||
| And they're gonna say, okay. | ||
| And Wyoming's gonna be like, we expect you to cooperate with us on law enforcement. | ||
| So Idaho's gonna be like, we got this corridor that goes to Montana to Washington, whatever, we're gonna set up checkpoints. | ||
| It's, I think, what is it, one highway? | ||
| It's probably some smaller roads, but I think it's one highway. | ||
| Up north, yeah, it's one highway. | ||
| I'm actually fearful of how the federal government might try to crack down on that. | ||
| How so? | ||
| Well, I could just see if you have a regime that's as far to the left as the one that's in power now is, and that wants to push for this mutilation of children, I can imagine them saying, no, you can't tell someone they're not able to pass through your state in order to get their quote-unquote gender-affirming care. | ||
| To be fair, there's one federal highway, one big, it's I-90. | ||
| Right, one interstate. | ||
| But then there are a bunch of smaller roads. | ||
| Smaller state highways, yes. | ||
| But to be completely honest, I can count them. | ||
| Yeah, it's not a lot. | ||
| I can go all the way- all the way- what are we looking at? | ||
| Up north, you mean? | ||
| So, from- if I'm looking at just out of Washington, you can- you can- man, it's really annoying. | ||
| Yeah, it's rugged up there. | ||
| There's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten. | ||
| And in wintertime, a lot of those will be- Ten. | ||
| Ten roads. | ||
| So, if you got to the point where Washington- there actually was an issue of kids being trafficked into Washington for child sex changes, And states like Idaho were like, no way. | ||
| I mean, actually, let's use Idaho as an example. | ||
| Relatively conservative place. | ||
| They don't want their kids being brought there. | ||
| So what? | ||
| All they need is 10 checkpoints? | ||
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10? | |
| Yo, that's 20 guys. | ||
| 20 guys on rotation, working a border. | ||
| Yeah, and like I said, in the wintertime, a lot of those places are not even- you can't navigate them. | ||
| They're like, covered in snow, there's no way through them. | ||
| It's mostly just gonna be one or two roads. | ||
| They might exit to another state. | ||
| You'd have to have your entire border blocked off or covered. | ||
| I don't have to do that. | ||
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It's so rugged, dude. | |
| No, Ian. | ||
| It's ten roads! | ||
| The whole border! | ||
| You're just talking about the western border? | ||
| Going east, yes. | ||
| If you're in Washington, it is ten roads out of Washington. | ||
| You have to go south. | ||
| Oh, they said Idaho, okay. | ||
| Into Idaho. | ||
| So, Washington into Idaho. | ||
| There are ten roads. | ||
| There's probably many smaller ones, but there are ten main roads, one main interstate highway, and then I think a couple state highways, and I counted on the map, zooming in, even to the small ones, it looks like it's about ten. | ||
| So, I'm not saying, I know for a fact it will happen, I'm saying if this is the path, we head down. | ||
| Abortion is also a big issue. | ||
| What happens if, I've talked about it before, you got a man and a woman, they're together, they're maybe married. | ||
| They get pregnant. | ||
| Start fighting. | ||
| Woman says, I need to leave this guy. | ||
| For whatever reason. | ||
| And he says, I forbid you from getting an abortion. | ||
| And she says, you can't. | ||
| Idaho doesn't allow it, so then she goes to Washington, and he goes to the state and says, she's kidnapped my child. | ||
| A better example is states that have completely banned it. | ||
| I think, like Oklahoma banned it outright. | ||
| Is it Oklahoma? | ||
| Who banned it outright? | ||
| Texas. | ||
| Texas? | ||
| Are you sure? | ||
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Let me double check on that. | |
| I think Oklahoma was a total ban. | ||
| Yeah, I mean it might have been Oklahoma had the total ban. | ||
| New York Times actually has a tracker for which states have done a complete outright ban. | ||
| So a full ban in effect versus six-week ban. | ||
| You said Idaho? | ||
| No, Oklahoma. | ||
| Yes, Oklahoma does have a full-on ban. | ||
| Full on ban. | ||
| That's also if we're going to go with the NYPD. | ||
| And in Colorado, right? | ||
| So let's say someone, uh, there's a couple in Oklahoma. | ||
| Something happens and the woman says, you know what? | ||
| I just don't want to have this baby because it'll, it'll, it'll keep me locked with this guy. | ||
| Colorado is, it's right on the, this is crazy. | ||
| They share a border. | ||
| Colorado, let's see, what road do we got here? | ||
| 385, Campo to Boise City. | ||
| So you can have a woman who's in Oklahoma, drive 100 miles, cross the border into Colorado where there's no restriction at all. | ||
| What happens when that father says, my unborn son has been kidnapped and is going to be executed? | ||
| What does Oklahoma do to prevent that from happening? | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| The federal government won't do anything either. | ||
| You're going to have border checkpoints. | ||
| And Oklahoma's going to be like, ma'am, why are you leaving? | ||
| Why are you going to Colorado? | ||
| there's going to be serious just outright and and even the left agrees on this one | ||
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Yep. | |
| because the left has talked about this that they're gonna be trying to stop women from fleeing to | ||
| get abortions in states where it's illegal | ||
| i think that what i brought up you need border if you're gonna do that you need like border protection up | ||
| on the entire state of oklahoma because although it does share a border with | ||
| colorado in one spot people could go through like new mexico no west and then | ||
| Or they could go south and then west and north to avoid that border checkpoint. | ||
| And they can get on a plane. | ||
| They can go to Kansas and then west into Colorado, so you would need a robust border patrol system. | ||
| No, you wouldn't. | ||
| You are incorrect. | ||
| I mean, if you're trying to prevent people from leaving the state, that is not the way to go. | ||
| They're going to try and prevent, specifically, the trafficking for the purpose of abortion. | ||
| But how would you have to get her to say she's doing it at the border crossing too? | ||
| And why would she just be like, no, I'm just going on a vacation? | ||
| Ian, I think you misunderstand. | ||
| That's irrelevant. | ||
| You will get enough people in Oklahoma who will be like, we demand a checkpoint. | ||
| Well, but do you want to do facial recognition, eye scanning, and DNA testing? | ||
| Ian, you completely misunderstand. | ||
| Simpsons bear patrol, you guys remember that? | ||
| A bear one day wanders through Springfield, so they all panic and demand a bear patrol and get it. | ||
| It doesn't matter what you think they need to do, need is immaterial. | ||
| If enough people say, You know, I had a girlfriend, she got pregnant, and then she crossed the border to get an abortion, and now my son is dead, was killed, or my daughter was killed, they will just vote, and the state will do it, and sure, you could argue it's ineffective, that's not the point. | ||
| The point is, people will say it, and it will have to happen. | ||
| You cannot have two states, side by side, where one has totally banned abortion, and one has totally unrestricted abortion. | ||
| It is very obvious what will happen. | ||
| Oklahoma will say to these women, it is illegal to get an abortion. | ||
| The women will then be like, I'm going to Colorado. | ||
| And they'll say, we're setting up a checkpoint at the border to Colorado. | ||
| And then we're going to arrest you? | ||
| I mean, what's the- Yes! | ||
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It's illegal! | |
| For what? | ||
| Arrest her for what? | ||
| It's illegal! | ||
| They totally ban- What's illegal? | ||
| Crossing the border? | ||
| Okay, Ian. | ||
| You don't get it. | ||
| I 100% get it. | ||
| She has not gotten an abortion at this stage of illegality you're claiming. | ||
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Okay. | |
| So what's illegal? | ||
| So when... There is a prosecution. | ||
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Okay? | |
| Donald Trump. | ||
| Let's use Trump as an example. | ||
| Did Trump break the law with classified documents? | ||
| Yes or no? | ||
| No. | ||
| No? | ||
| Hillary Clinton had classified documents. | ||
| She wasn't prosecuted. | ||
| Joe Biden has classified documents, he wasn't prosecuted. | ||
| Donald Trump has classified documents, he does get prosecuted. | ||
| So what's the crime? | ||
| It doesn't matter! | ||
| A state prosecutor will find something on the books, show me the man, show me the crime. | ||
| My point is, if Oklahoma says it is illegal, and a woman traffics an unborn baby for the purpose of terminating its life, they will say, they will treat it as if it's murder, period. | ||
| Yeah, but the purpose is unknown, that's the point that I'm making. | ||
| They argue this in court. | ||
| This is the purpose of an indictment and a criminal trial. | ||
| So, you can't make the argument that you drove the car at a high speed, crashed into a person, and they died, and say, well, I mean, you could certainly make the argument. | ||
| They'll be like, we don't know exactly why they did it. | ||
| Yep, you did. | ||
| Okay, you did. | ||
| The woman will come back from Colorado, having gotten an abortion, and they'll say, now we know exactly why you did it. | ||
| Oh, if she goes back to the state, yeah, she's probably gonna face an issue. | ||
| Right, so she'll have to flee outright. | ||
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| Bro, I'm telling you, the point is this. | ||
| But arresting her at the border, I don't know about that. | ||
| You cannot have these two states coexisting this way. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The left made this argument that states will start setting up like police forces because it's illegal. | ||
| Not even an original opinion from me. | ||
| I'm like, I agree with what they're saying. | ||
| It feels like a dumb, heavy-handed thing to say. | ||
| We'll just put cops there and then it will stop. | ||
| No one believes that. | ||
| How deep do you want to go? | ||
| No one believes that, Ian. | ||
| No one believes that we'll just stop because they put cops there. | ||
| They're saying, we want cops to try and do something. | ||
| Because the only thing people ever say is, do something, do something. | ||
| So they'll do something, and that's what you'll get. | ||
| And it could be worse than doing nothing. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| But I think most people would argue it's not worse than doing nothing. | ||
| Because you'll get a lot of people in Oklahoma who are like, we need to go get an abortion, and the cops are going to be at the border and they're going to be like, I can't do this. | ||
| Turn around. | ||
| Or there'll be like, people will be like, we suspect she may get an abortion. | ||
| We have an anonymous tip. | ||
| Let's tap her phone lines. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| That's dirty, dude. | ||
| You are right. | ||
| Now, I don't think Oklahoma criminalizes the woman, though. | ||
| They criminalize the practice, so I think the doctor's the one who gets in trouble. | ||
| What you need to understand is, I am not talking about... The world is not a machine. | ||
| Human civilization is not a machine that functions on logic. | ||
| I love this idea when it comes to business contracts. | ||
| I hear all the time from people who don't know how to run businesses, and they seem to think, I can't remember what movie I was watching. | ||
| It was like someone had a contract with a company and then their whole company got seized or something happened and they were like, this is absurd. | ||
| How could our company be taken over this way? | ||
| And then they went to the court and the judge was like, I'm sorry, it's right here in the contract. | ||
| And they're like, no, no. | ||
| And I'm like, courts don't work that way. | ||
| You can come to an agreement with someone and a judge can nullify it. | ||
| Judges are human beings. | ||
| They can be like, this is ridiculous. | ||
| People seem to think that contract law and legality is like, I'm sorry, sir. | ||
| It says right here, there are judges who literally have imprisoned children for cash. | ||
| Regardless of what the law says. | ||
| We know human judges basically can do what they want to do. | ||
| They can hold you in contempt and lock you up and just end your life, basically. | ||
| And then you can beg. | ||
| They can do these things. | ||
| There are judges. | ||
| Trump is the perfect example. | ||
| Let's jump to the Trump story. | ||
| Let's talk about Donald Trump. | ||
| This is a perfect segue. | ||
| Here's a story from Fox News. | ||
| Trump reacts after leaked recording shows him discussing classified documents. | ||
| Former president tells Fox News Digital he did nothing wrong in secret document case. | ||
| I have the audio here. | ||
| Let's play it. | ||
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Sick people. | |
| That was your coup, you know, against you. | ||
| Well, it started right at the beginning. | ||
| They were trying to do that before you even were sworn in. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Trying to overthrow your election. | ||
| Well, with Milley... Let me see that. | ||
| I'll show you an example. | ||
| He said that I wanted to attack Iran. | ||
| Isn't it amazing? | ||
| I have a big pile of papers. | ||
| This thing just came out. | ||
| Look, this was him. | ||
| They presented me this. | ||
| This is off the record, but they presented me this. | ||
| This was him. | ||
| This was the Defense Department and him. | ||
| We looked at some. | ||
| This was him. | ||
| This wasn't done by me. | ||
| This was him. | ||
| All sorts of stuff. | ||
| It's pages long. | ||
| Wait a minute. | ||
| Let's see here. | ||
| I just found... Isn't that amazing? | ||
| This totally wins my case, you know. | ||
| Except it is, like, highly confidential, secret. | ||
| This is secret information. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| You attack and... Hillary would print that out all the time, you know. | ||
| Private email. | ||
| No, she'd send it to Anthony Weiner. | ||
| For pervert. | ||
| By the way, isn't that incredible? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I was just saying, because we were talking about it. | ||
| And, you know, he said, he wanted to attack Iran and what... He said it first. | ||
| You did. | ||
| This was done by the military, given to me. | ||
| I think we can probably, right? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| We'll have to see. | ||
| Yeah, we'll have to try to figure out a... See, as president, I could have de-classified it. | ||
| Now I can't, you know, but this is classified. | ||
| Yeah, now we have a problem. | ||
| Isn't that interesting? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's so cool. | ||
| Look, here I have a... | ||
| And you probably almost didn't believe me, but now you believe me. | ||
| No, I believe you. | ||
| It's incredible. | ||
| So there you go, that's basically it. | ||
| And here's why I brought this up. | ||
| For one, it is a big story, but my point is this. | ||
| Hillary Clinton had top secret information on her private servers. | ||
| She had her phone smashed with hammers, and she used an open source purging software to destroy all of those public records. | ||
| Comey said no reasonable prosecutor would bring these charges. | ||
| Joe Biden had classified documents in multiple locations. | ||
| Maybe they'll bring charges against him. | ||
| Doesn't seem likely. | ||
| But Hillary is the really obvious one. | ||
| Before an election, Comey said, no, we're not going to do that. | ||
| That's ridiculous. | ||
| And she wasn't even the president. | ||
| Donald Trump has classified documents and they say, give him 10 years. | ||
| The view is screaming, lock him up 10 years. | ||
| This is the point about anything pertaining to legality or law. | ||
| It doesn't matter what you think is right and what should be done. | ||
| What matters is people with power wield it. | ||
| The left certainly understands that. | ||
| The right has this problem of being like... | ||
| You know, but is it allowed? | ||
| And the left is just like, do it anyway. | ||
| And that's where we're at. | ||
| The Biden DOJ going after Trump on charges that the Obama DOJ would not bring against Hillary. | ||
| Can I ask you a few questions about this just as a lawyer? | ||
| Sure, absolutely. | ||
| So when Trump says, I could have declassified them or should have declassified them, is that an admission that he didn't declassify them properly and is that going to be held against him? | ||
| Well, look, I think that one of the things that we're all missing is the context of these papers that you can hear in the background. | ||
| What is it that he's actually looking at? | ||
| And what is he actually flipping through, right? | ||
| I mean, is he flipping through some kind of a description? | ||
| Is he flipping through some kind of a picture? | ||
| I mean, we don't know what was actually in front of them. | ||
| But I think one of the things that matters here is what Tim just pointed out, which is Donald Trump was the President of the United States. | ||
| Hillary Clinton was only the Secretary of State. | ||
| You know Joe Biden the records that he's talking about are records. He got as vice president or | ||
| Previously as a senator right and so classified documents are controlled by the president of the United States | ||
| documents are only classified secret top-secret confidential because of an executive | ||
| order from the president of the United States all classification authority derives from the president with | ||
| one limited exception set by Congress about atomic Atomic energy related documents and in so you have this | ||
| whole kind of that That's one angle and a lot of people have been talking | ||
| about that But one of the things that I think is an interesting | ||
| thought that I hope folks start to think through Is you have all this discussion right now about oh | ||
| My goodness President Trump violated the Presidential Records Act and those weren't his documents and he couldn't | ||
| have those documents Those are the people's documents. | ||
| And I'm sorry. | ||
| For me, from coming from a first principles standpoint, under the Constitution, The Congress of the United States has no authority to tell the President of the United States which papers are his and which papers aren't. | ||
| Right? | ||
| That is ultimately, under the Constitution, the President of the United States has to have that power to decide which documents are his. | ||
| And so if he has that power, then how can he, and then he takes those documents with him, which is the standard practice of Presidents, for almost 200 years. | ||
| George Washington took his papers with him after he left office, and it was actually the subject of a court case later on down the line. | ||
| He deeded them to his nephew. | ||
| So how is it now that we fast forward and Congress passes this Presidential Records Act in 1978, Jimmy Carter signs into law and says, oh, well, these are all The people's records and the president no longer has, you know, kind of an ultimate say so. | ||
| The president possesses the documents from the first instance and has that absolute authority to do so. | ||
| Then how can he be prosecuted under the Espionage Act for unlawful possession of these documents? | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| I mean, it just doesn't make sense. | ||
| But not only that. | ||
| First, we're gonna find out in a week or so that there's something more to this video where, like, right after this clip, Trump goes, I mean, these aren't actually any of the real documents. | ||
| These are just, you know, memos. | ||
| It'll be something like that. | ||
| And you'll be like, oh, I wonder why that context wasn't provided, because the media does this all the time. | ||
| But then let's get down to it. | ||
| First, what does this audio prove, if anything? | ||
| Donald Trump is an idiot? | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Is that it? | ||
| Is it criminal? | ||
| It's not. | ||
| I'll tell you, in two seconds Trump's legal team is going to be like, he was bragging. | ||
| He was lying. | ||
| It's not real. | ||
| The papers, you hear that audio? | ||
| Weren't even those real papers. | ||
| Where was this audio recorded? | ||
| Oh, it was in this room? | ||
| The papers were in a different place the whole time. | ||
| You can't see anything, you can't hear anything. | ||
| Someone saying something about, look at these papers, they're secret, doesn't prove he actually had secret papers and showed them to anybody. | ||
| So it's circumstantial at best. | ||
| It is bad for Trump, don't get me wrong, but they're acting like it's this big bombshell. | ||
| And my thing is, you know what I think? | ||
| I think Trump was just, Speaking off the cuff and being a braggart. | ||
| And then when it actually came down to the legal matter, he said, look, I'm the president. | ||
| They're declassified because I say so. | ||
| And that's his argument now. | ||
| I don't think this tape does anything. | ||
| All that's going to happen is if you're on the left, you're going to think it's a bombshell. | ||
| If you're on the right, you're going to say it's stupid. | ||
| And I'll tell you this. | ||
| If the left says Trump must get 10 years for this. | ||
| Actually, they do. | ||
| They do. | ||
| Let me pull up the little article here we got from Mediaite. | ||
| Lock him up already. | ||
| The view gets wild as Ho suggests Trump selling docs predict he gets 10 years in prison. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| All right, I'm down. | ||
| Hillary's next in line. | ||
| Let's get it. | ||
| And then, of course, we can get Obama on that killing that 16-year-old American citizen. | ||
| Bring them all. | ||
| Bring them all. | ||
| Let's lock them all up. | ||
| Joe Biden next. | ||
| He was selling documents? | ||
| I mean, these people are insane. | ||
| But the point is, the reason why this tape doesn't matter is because we know Hillary Clinton had top secret information. | ||
| We know that she had no authority to have it. | ||
| We know that she had phones with the records on them destroyed with hammers. | ||
| We know that she had the server purged with bleach bit. | ||
| And Comey said no reasonable prosecutor would bring charges on this. | ||
| So then, am I supposed to think it's reasonable for Trump to be charged? | ||
| No, of course not. | ||
| Well, I'm curious, again, as a lawyer, what do you think this does in a court of law? | ||
| Like, this kind of evidence? | ||
| I mean, it really depends on what gets admitted. | ||
| There's all kinds of tests for what gets admitted and what gets heard and what the jury can see, assuming it goes to a jury. | ||
| Tim's exactly right. | ||
| His lawyers go in and they start punching holes in this. | ||
| Well, how do you know? | ||
| What documents was he talking about? | ||
| Do we have witnesses who can recall and take the stand and they'll testify? | ||
| Oh yeah, it was this precise document that was marked top secret, no foreign, your eyes only document, and he was showing us all of these precise battle plans. | ||
| Now, I mean I highly doubt that, and Tim's exactly right, every time we see one of these things play out, which is I think what most Americans recognize now, is that every time we see one of these allegations, whether it's three days or three years down the line, there's more to the story. | ||
| And that the left just keeps coming at him and coming at him and coming at him with everything that they have. | ||
| And it's always, this is the last straw, this is the death knell for Donald Trump. | ||
| The walls are closing in! | ||
| The walls are closing in! | ||
| And every time there's more to it. | ||
| I think that the left is destroying its own credibility, the more that they do this, because average Americans sitting at home, Kansas, Georgia, Nevada, wherever, they see this and they say, why do they keep going after this guy? | ||
| This doesn't make sense. | ||
| They just keep coming after him. | ||
| It's counterintuitive. | ||
| It doesn't make any sense to them. | ||
| I do want to give a special shout out to Donald Trump for trusting the corporate press all the time. | ||
| He just loves allowing these people to come in all the time and just let him record him and all this stuff. | ||
| He keeps giving him interviews. | ||
| It's wonderful, isn't it? | ||
| I don't get it. | ||
| That's the part of it that I don't get. | ||
| To go back to the initial segue to this. | ||
| This is my point. | ||
| When we were talking about the borders and Oklahoma banning abortion and Colorado allowing it, it doesn't matter what you think the law is. | ||
| We talked about this the other day, cohabitation in West Virginia is illegal. | ||
| Are they gonna bring charges against you? | ||
| Only if they want to search your residence. | ||
| Show me the man, I'll show you the crime. | ||
| So, let's say you're in West Virginia, and you're an activist, and the state's like, this person's causing us problems, can we find a crime that'll give us a justification for searching their residence? | ||
| They're cohabitating, that's illegal, boom, we got him. | ||
| I still want to look up that law. | ||
| I haven't been able to find it. So like cohabitation is in living with someone of the opposite sex you're not married | ||
| with or in a relationship with? | ||
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| I couldn't find the law. | ||
| Yeah, I agree. It's not about doing what's right, but the reason I was | ||
| concerned with the whole setting up border checkpoints thing is because I'm looking ahead at what problems that | ||
| could arise from a social movement to install border patrol, whether or not it's legal, whether | ||
| or not it's righteous, that it could end up causing more unnecessary | ||
| spying on the the people themselves that you know, unexpectedly, they didn't realize what they had | ||
| unleashed on themselves by creating some sort of patrol office around them. | ||
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| You trying to be pulling up that law? | ||
| Yeah, it's, uh, this is weird. | ||
| So, yeah, how long is this? | ||
| Lewd and lascivious cohabitation when person's presumed to be unmarried is the law. | ||
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| But it does say whether married or not afterwards. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Oh, so like you're doing lewd and lascivious things even within the context of marriage. | ||
| They're basically saying you're being a freak. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Get out of my bedroom. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's, it's, yeah. | ||
| Okay, so to be specific, it's not about just cohabitation, it's about fornication. | ||
| It says, in prosecutions for adultery and fornication, lewd and lasciviously cohabiting together, the persons named in the indictment shall be presumed to be unmarried persons, unless proof to the contrary. | ||
| I'm assuming that the laws... Oh, fornication means unmarried sexual intercourse. | ||
| That's the first time I've ever put that together. | ||
| I think with this thing, I could be wrong, but I was talking to someone about it recently and they were like, yeah, what are they called? | ||
| They're called blue laws or whatever? | ||
| They're archaic laws nobody enforces anymore. | ||
| No, they don't enforce them anymore. | ||
| But this is like if you're making a noise violation with your lady and you're not married, they might be like, yo... | ||
| Stop. | ||
| And if you don't stop and you don't stop and you don't stop, they're like, hey. | ||
| Okay, I get it now. | ||
| If any person's not married to each other, lewdly and lascivously associate or cohabitate together, they shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and upon conviction be fined not less than $50. | ||
| Yeah, like, to clarify, if you are not married and you be hooking up, it's illegal. | ||
| And it's like, I think that's particularly if you're hooking up in public. | ||
| No, it's in your house. | ||
| People can sense that you're doing it inside. | ||
| They walk by, they hear the noise, they see it in a window. | ||
| Because lewdness, they wouldn't know unless they were there. | ||
| It actually clarifies, or, whether married or not, be guilty of open gross lewdness. | ||
| That's a separate clause. | ||
| So, what I read was specifically saying, if you are not married, and you are lewdly associating and cohabitating, Then you will be guilty of a misdemeanor. | ||
| If you are married or not, be guilty of open or gross lewdness and lasciviousness. | ||
| You will be guilty of a misdemeanor. | ||
| So, anyway, that's my point. | ||
| Yeah, they don't prosecute that stuff anymore. | ||
| But I guess, I'm actually, if they tried to today, though, if they were going after somebody they didn't like, and then this was the justification, it would almost certainly be struck down. | ||
| No court would convict somebody. | ||
| Dude, that's, there's an issue there. | ||
| Lewd is such a vague term, also. | ||
| But all laws use terms you struggle to define, and then a judge interprets it. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Wicked, it means wicked. | ||
| So let me explain, Ian. | ||
| A woman is, in Oklahoma, abortion is totally banned. | ||
| It's a total ban, right? | ||
| Let me, yeah, so, yes, yes. | ||
| So the places, yes, yeah, exactly. | ||
| Oklahoma does have a total ban. | ||
| Now what we'll need is a judge's interpretation of what then would you call taking a pregnant woman, carrying a child that the state deems to be a child across state lines without permission of the other parent. | ||
| Would that be kidnapping? | ||
| What I'm saying is, if this continues in this way, you will get to the point where the interpretation of the state in Oklahoma is that a child carried to another state to be put to death is irrelevant whether it's in the womb or out of the womb. | ||
| If a woman carried a physical child across state lines to bring it to a place to have it killed, they would view it identically to a woman with the baby in the womb doing the same thing. | ||
| Yeah, I'm actually curious about the law. | ||
| I want to look into it, but I'm not sure if the laws that are banning it are also defining it as homicide. | ||
| I wonder if some states ban it without characterizing it as homicide. | ||
| That's why I'm saying a judge will have to interpret it. | ||
| Because this is inevitable. | ||
| Not that a judge will say it's homicide, but that the interpretation will have to be handed down by a judge. | ||
| You will get a circumstance in Oklahoma, and it's probably already happened, where a woman gets pregnant, goes to Colorado, gets an abortion. | ||
| There will be a lawsuit or some challenge, if slash when she returns, and you will have the father or some family member being like, that was illegal, and then filing some kind of claim and demanding criminal charges for it. | ||
| It's an illegal act, terminate the pregnancy, she went and did it in another state, what will the judges say about that? | ||
| It'll have to be interpreted by somebody. | ||
| Yeah? | ||
| I think Oklahoma, based on this trajectory, will lean towards, it is child trafficking and murder. | ||
| That's wild. | ||
| Child trafficking is interesting because if a woman's eight months pregnant and she's like, hey, I'm going to see my mom in another state. | ||
| And the dad's like, no, you're not. | ||
| Not this week. | ||
| She's like, yeah, I am. | ||
| I have the tickets already. | ||
| And he's like, no, you're not going anywhere. | ||
| And she's like, I'm leaving. | ||
| And she leaves. | ||
| And it's like, she's trafficking a child. | ||
| The dad goes to the court. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| No, that woman has every right to go to her mom's house across state lines, in my opinion, with an eight-month-old in womb. | ||
| That's my personal opinion. | ||
| And then two things happen. | ||
| One, yes, there will be circumstances where women will be unjustly halted from living their lives. | ||
| The second, there will be women who will lie about traveling to visit their parents in order to terminate the life of the child. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, also, if you're pregnant, if you just have a child in general, I think it would be very strange for you to go somewhere without your spouse wanting you to go there. | ||
| I'm sure you have, like, some abusive relationships where the husband is a maniac and the woman has a reason to leave, but that's totally different. | ||
| I think we're headed towards, uh, as the states fracture. | ||
| Wait, don't say, is this the word I have to say? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The phrase I have to say? | ||
| No, I think so. | ||
| I wasn't gonna say anything. | ||
| You're jumping the gun. | ||
| Okay, okay. | ||
| I was gonna say something dark because it starts with... | ||
| The political polarization of people into certain states, then the championing of federalization, like states being sovereign, but then you have to contend with the fact that if Colorado and Oklahoma are distinct entities with extremely different laws, you will need border checkpoints. | ||
| This is the fracturing of the United States. | ||
| The point where Oklahoma will have to have a border checkpoint with Colorado. | ||
| Yeah, it's also very interesting because I wonder in 20 years where all of these states are going to be. | ||
| We've seen states change from red to blue over time. | ||
| It's possible. | ||
| Look, the entire country in many ways, especially on social issues, has moved significantly further to the left. | ||
| In terms of legislation, I would say in some states abortion and, in general, gun control are kind of the two issues where we've moved to the right as a country. | ||
| But for the most part, the trajectory has always been to the left. | ||
| I'm curious to see if there's going to be a backlash and some of these places that are blue might start to turn red. | ||
| That's also, again, not me saying that's going to happen. | ||
| I think that could be wishful thinking, but... On the point of immigration, to add to what you're saying, Ian, they already do have random stops. | ||
| In states. | ||
| When I first went to California, I entered through San Diego from the... Tijuana? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| From Arizona into California to San Diego. | ||
| And I was on a bus from San Diego to LA, and we got randomly stopped by immigration. | ||
| And they boarded the bus, and they demanded everyone pull out their IDs, and I pull out my ID. | ||
| And they go, and they look, and they hand the things back. | ||
| And they came up to me, and the guy looks at my ID, and he goes, what's your favorite baseball team? | ||
| And I was like, I don't like baseball. | ||
| Is there a favorite baseball team? | ||
| And I was like, well, I'm from Chicago. | ||
| I could say the Sox, I guess, but I don't really watch baseball. | ||
| And he goes, you're fine. | ||
| Hands me the ID back. | ||
| The reason he asked that is he wanted a fast question that you'd have to be able to answer really, really quickly, because if you were an illegal immigrant, you wouldn't have a canned response to it. | ||
| So they already do stuff like this. | ||
| If Arizona is worried about the southern border crisis, I saw a video from Jorge Ventura on the border and there was like immigrants are coming up but they couldn't get across. | ||
| They're stuck at some wall or something. | ||
| They've been there for three days just camping on the border waiting to get across. | ||
| Dude, what is the solution to this border? | ||
| I don't even want to say it online, man. | ||
| I just have such horrible, horrible visions of what could happen if we don't stem the tide. | ||
| We have to. | ||
| I mean, and really, this is not overstating things, but in the Trump administration, towards | ||
| the end of the Trump administration, they had solved the border crisis, right? | ||
| The number of illegal entries, successful illegal entries, which is the goal of every | ||
| illegal alien, is just to get into the United States. | ||
| It doesn't, I mean, they don't care if they get captured or if they sneak across or whatever. | ||
| Their goal is to get released. | ||
| Their goal is to get released in the interior so they can work, they can provide for their | ||
| family, whatever, send money back home. | ||
| That's their end goal. | ||
| And so under the Trump administration, what ended up happening was these policies like | ||
| remain in Mexico, where you had to say, hey, look, we caught you, but now you're going | ||
| And if you have a court claim you want to make, you're going to make it for Mexico. | ||
| We're going to let you in for your court date. | ||
| But other than that, you wait there. | ||
| That dried everything up because people realize you don't actually get your end goal. | ||
| What this administration is doing is, they were letting in all kinds of folks. | ||
| All kinds of folks were coming in because they were just catching and releasing everybody. | ||
| But now what they've done is they've done a paradigm shift where they're directing people to the ports of entry | ||
| and they're trying to hide the ball from the American people. | ||
| So they're saying, oh, the numbers between our ports, the number of people crossing illegally, | ||
| they're going down. | ||
| They're still astronomically high. | ||
| Those numbers are going down. | ||
| But instead what they're doing is they're sending them to the ports of entry and they're saying, | ||
| Go to the port of entry and make your case there. | ||
| And, uh, what the government is doing is by the tens of thousands every month, actually letting people come to the port of entry, make an appointment, tell them who they are, and they just let them into the United States. | ||
| Well, you can go to your court date someday, five years in the future. | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| It has to stop. | ||
| No country can sustain this type of influx. | ||
| Can you think keeping them in Mexico is the best solution, or just keeping them on the other side of the border? | ||
| It happens to be Mexico. | ||
| You have to either do that, you have to detain people long enough for them to have some kind of a court hearing to adjudicate if they have some kind of a claim, or you have to avail them of other alternatives, like, say, third country agreements that we'd signed with Guatemala, El Salvador, and Honduras, where it'd say, hey, look, You're seeking asylum in the United States, and you're from Guatemala? | ||
| Well, guess what? | ||
| You should have sought it first in El Salvador. | ||
| Or you should have sought it first in Mexico. | ||
| Whatever the case may be. | ||
| I have an idea. | ||
| What if we got a big island, and that was like a waypoint. | ||
| If people entered, they get brought there for temporary holding. | ||
| So here's the issue. | ||
| It's easy to be like, if they illegally enter the country, turn them around. | ||
| You can't. | ||
| Because what if they're not Mexican? | ||
| They come through the southern border and they're Honduran. | ||
| We can't then go, hey Mexico, we're putting this person into your country. | ||
| They might say like, no, you can't do that. | ||
| We don't know where that person came from. | ||
| And sometimes for a lot of these people, we don't even know if they came through Mexico. | ||
| They may have come through other ways. | ||
| They may have flown here, overstayed their visas. | ||
| So what if we had an island where it's like, if you enter here illegally, we will detain you, transport you to this island where you will be detained temporarily till we can figure out What country you originate from, figure out proper means of deportation, or if it's a genuine case of asylum. | ||
| Now, I think that makes sense because you can't just push them back. | ||
| And the challenge will be, of course, finding the appropriate location. | ||
| But I think there is an island up in the northeast somewhere that we could potentially use that's very nice. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And you know, it's a good point. | ||
| I think it'd be very nice. | ||
| I actually really like that idea. | ||
| They have plenty of resources to care for these people, too. | ||
| In fact, diversity is our strength. | ||
| Maybe a vineyard of some sort. | ||
| Yeah, I think it would be very nice. | ||
| I actually really like that idea. | ||
| They have plenty of resources to care for these people too. | ||
| In fact, diversity is our strength. | ||
| I actually think that Martha's Vineyard can't afford not to have all of my good scent there. | ||
| It'd make them very strong. | ||
| It'd be good for their economy. | ||
| All the things that they say are true for the United States, you know, should be true for Martha's Vineyard. | ||
| Let's send them there. | ||
| In fact, I think it would be even a little bit greedy of Martha's Vineyard to just accept all of the migrants. | ||
| But you know what? | ||
| I'm willing to be nice and do them the favor. | ||
| They deserve it. | ||
| They're good people up there. | ||
| They're good people, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, let's give them that. | ||
| I want to point out, I actually pulled up the actual West Virginia Code 52102, lewd or lascivious cohabitation. | ||
| No persons not married to each other shall lewdly and lasciviously associate and cohabitate together, or whether married or not, be guilty of open or gross lewdness or lasciviousness. | ||
| Quite literally, you cannot live with another person and engage in adult activities with them unless you're married. | ||
| I wonder if people have OnlyFans accounts or do porn from West Virginia if they could get arrested under that law. | ||
| That's open! | ||
| That's outright! | ||
| So we were looking at these laws because they were doing drag shows with kids, and I'm like, pretty sure it's already illegal. | ||
| Jefferson County explicitly banned it. | ||
| Saying like, this is explicitly defined as, you know, against the law. | ||
| Berkeley County, which is a little further west, it's not explicit, but West Virginia state law clearly covers having a drag performance and allowing kids on stage. | ||
| The question is, will the AG actually do anything about it? | ||
| Yeah, I guess we'll have to see. | ||
| We'll have to see if law and order means anything. | ||
| I'd like to take that lewd law off the books in West Virginia. | ||
| That'd be like a- Laws should sunset. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| That one, yeah. | ||
| It's too vague. | ||
| You're gonna have an uphill battle. | ||
| The people of West Virginia will never let you remove that law. | ||
| If you have an indecent relationship with your live-in girlfriend, they're gonna give you a- That's crazy that they could charge you with a misdemeanor. | ||
| But I think it's only like a $50 fine, right? | ||
| Is that what it said? | ||
| Something like that, like up to six months in jail. | ||
| Up to six months, oh my goodness. | ||
| Fifty dollars or six months in jail. | ||
| I think that's what it said. | ||
| That was like pre-inflation numbers that were updated in the law. | ||
| Let me, uh, what does it say? | ||
| Six, uh, not less than six. | ||
| See, that's the thing. | ||
| $50 was a lot of money back then, dude. | ||
| I know, I know. | ||
| $60 was worth in proportion to six months. | ||
| No, no, not less than $50. | ||
| Seriously. | ||
| That's how you know it's old. | ||
| Shall be fined not less than $50 and may, in the discretion of the court, be imprisoned not exceeding six months. | ||
| And upon repetition of the offense, they shall, upon conviction, be confined not less than six months or more than 12. | ||
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| I mean, it outright says fornication, too. | ||
| I would love to see the stats from historical stats to see just how many actual of those prosecutions were brought against cohabitating couples versus how many times it was used to prosecute things like prostitution houses or other things that, you know, that was their way of getting at it back in the day. | ||
| I mean, that would be my supposition, but I don't know. | ||
| You know what's funny? | ||
| Is if you go back like a hundred years, when this law's on the books, you've got some conservatives sitting around a pub table being like, these liberals, they're advocating for fornication in the privacy of their own homes! | ||
| That's illegal! | ||
| And it actually was, and people did it, and now it's not illegal anymore. | ||
| It's still illegal, but nobody enforces it, and a court would probably not uphold it if they tried to arrest someone for it. | ||
| Yeah, the court would not uphold that today. | ||
| Right, but it's on the books. | ||
| You tell me though, if your client called you saying they were getting charged with this, would you panic? | ||
| Would you be like, I don't know if I can get you out of this one? | ||
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| You think you can do it? | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Is that not social erosion though? | ||
| Well, I mean, certainly it is. | ||
| Social erosion, social cohesion is always found in societies where you share a set of values. | ||
| And whatever those values are, those are the values that are shared by the community, right? | ||
| And we can judge them by today's standards, but we shouldn't. | ||
| There was at least a shared, unified idea that there was some kind of fundamental truths and some baseline morals that everybody agreed to and that carried forth. | ||
| enables people to have trust in relationships and with each other and build communities and | ||
| When you erode those things and when you do things like when we have these drag shows with with kids coming in | ||
| Coming to them and parents bringing their kids to these things that erodes all of that | ||
| Rapidly and the we can see we can see the immediate effects But I think the downstream effects the ripple effects are | ||
| the things that we haven't yet seen that are the terror You made this point, you said, I don't think we should judge the people of that time by our moral norms. | ||
| result of this that we're not even experiencing yet in today's reality. | ||
| Absolutely agreed. You made this point, you said, I don't think we should judge | ||
| the people of that time by our moral norms. Quite frankly, I think it would be | ||
| much more painful to be judged in our time by their moral norms. | ||
| Like social cohesion or like shared morality, should we have that on a global scale? | ||
| I don't know that you can have it on a global scale. | ||
| Yeah, I don't think so. | ||
| Like where does it segment righteously? | ||
| It used to be every state, then it was like now we have the United States so it has a moral, but like does it ever, did it ever really have a true, a real shared moral value in the United States or was it always like pockets of disparate morality? | ||
| I think so. | ||
| I mean I think it was, you know, the Judeo-Christian kind of Protestant ethos that formed kind of the core of the common values in the United States, they carried | ||
| forth things for a couple hundred years. | ||
| Now, of course, as the more of those died down and religion was, people will worship something. | ||
| Yep. And it's a matter of what are they worshiping, right? | ||
| And so it used to be they would worship, they would go to church, they would have a different religion, maybe they would be Baptist, maybe they would be Methodist, whatever. | ||
| But religion, in that traditional sense, for many people, especially on the left side of the spectrum, has been replaced with worship of things like transgender ideology. | ||
| Money. | ||
| Money. | ||
| The self, ultimately. | ||
| And it's, what are you worshipping? | ||
| What are you following? | ||
| You're following something. | ||
| You just might not know what it is. | ||
| So if you're not following, if you're not worshipping your God, you're worshipping something else. | ||
| And a lot of times it comes down to money, and for a lot of people, and unfortunately a lot of kids these days, as we see the statistics bear out, with the number who are self-identifying Is LGBTQIA+++, or whatever the acronym is these days, well I just saw a thing today. | ||
| It said 20% of Gen Z kids identify as being a member of that group. | ||
| That's not coming from a place of a shared morality, shared set of values where things are acceptable and things are not acceptable. | ||
| That's coming from a sense of worshipping self, worshipping the latest thing, the ever-shifting norms of the left. | ||
| And they're not tethered to anything. | ||
| They're always going to be moving to the left. | ||
| There's no core anchor that holds them together, kind of like conservatives. | ||
| There's at least some common values that we hold and that we will always—it'll be our mooring that we won't stray far from. | ||
| Theirs is always shifting, always moving. | ||
| Yeah, no, I think that's right, and what I would say is when you look at a very broad social scale, you know, people did believe different things in different areas, but anywhere where things have functioned with a very large group, the people at least shared the natural law, the Ten Commandments, but then they had their own kind of regional customs, I think there are laws that are universally applicable that all humans should follow, but then there are certain kind of regional laws, you know, built atop those universal laws in different regional stories and in myths and pastimes. | ||
| That can't scale out to groups that are too large. | ||
| There are certain things that historically, traditionally, and culturally make more sense for Tennessee than California or vice versa. | ||
| So, you can't have a universal social cohesion in the sense that everyone's on board with all of the same Stories and customs, but I think you can you can ideally have a moral code Which is adhered to by everyone in the world I just think it's unlikely like I think it's very unlikely that everyone's gonna follow the Ten Commandments We want them to every culture should expect that but even that it probably won't happen So that's why when it comes to smaller things that are more regional. | ||
| I mean, I don't think there's any hope of exporting that stuff We did that one episode where we went through the Ten Commandments, and we were talking about, from a secular perspective, whether they would apply to making a better life. | ||
| And I think, like, the only one that doesn't apply to a secular life is keeping the Lord's name and not using the Lord's name in vain. | ||
| But, like, not killing, not stealing, not adultery, honoring your parents. | ||
| Whether you're religious or not, following those rules, you'll have a better life. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, and the thing about the Ten Commandments is they're not just specific rules, they're also categories. | ||
| So taking the Lord's name in vain, in the most real sense, condemns taking the Lord's name in vain, but there's other things we extrapolate from that, just like using language properly or improperly, using foul language is like a lesser violation of that commandment, but still a violation, so I think even that would apply. | ||
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| Alright, I'm not your buddy guy says, not to be too hyperbolic, but is this America's last election? | ||
| I mean, can you imagine sharing a nation with two vastly different ideologies? | ||
| It's as if only a Julius Caesar character can save the West. | ||
| I don't know about last election, but I do believe we are entering a very tumultuous period with this election. | ||
| Think about it in a couple of different ways. | ||
| Will Trump supporters vote DeSantis? | ||
| I would say two to one, no. | ||
| Will DeSantis supporters vote for Trump? | ||
| Two to one, no. | ||
| You know why I think this? | ||
| They've said it. | ||
| DeSantis supporters have outright said on Twitter, if it's Trump, we're not voting. | ||
| Well, okay. | ||
| What about Joe Biden? | ||
| RFK Jr. | ||
| It is so divisive that it is just going to be chaos. | ||
| Will Democrats accept a Trump victory? | ||
| No. | ||
| Will Trump supporters accept a Democrat victory? | ||
| No. | ||
| Where we go after this? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It seems like, I don't disagree, a Julius Caesar character, like we're entering, it feels like we're at that crossing the Rubicon moment, from the Republic to the Empire officially. | ||
| We're always vulnerable to it, but it strikes me more like we're in another sexual revolution that's less violent than the one that happened in the 60s, but there's more media coverage, so the little bits of violence that do happen get blown out of proportion. | ||
| Sexual revolution? | ||
| I would say it's more violent than violence. | ||
| It feels like another sexual revolution with all this trans ideology being pushed in schools and things like that. | ||
| Oh, sorry. | ||
| Oh, go for it. | ||
| No, no, I mean, I agree. | ||
| I agree, except I would say I don't think it's another sexual revolution so much as it is the inevitable fallout from the first, and I actually think it's more violent. | ||
| The violence is just being done to children. | ||
| I agree with Jameis. | ||
| But how do you define violence? | ||
| But it is explicitly violent. | ||
| I mean, you've got people going around smashing things, destroying things. | ||
| It's violent out on the streets. | ||
| In the 60s, it was pretty bad. | ||
| I didn't realize it. | ||
| And every once in a while I'll hear about like how much there was like terrorism, the weather underground, like bombs. | ||
| Like it was crazy violent back then with a lot of death. | ||
| I think the weather underground only killed what, like a couple people? | ||
| They were more about structural damage. | ||
| And it was shock and awe late in the night to scare people and terrify. | ||
| It was like overt terrorism. | ||
| But for the amount of fear that people have been whipped into in the last five years, it is not that violent. | ||
| The system does not seem that violent. | ||
| I'll watch a violent video, and then I'll watch it three or four times. | ||
| Did I just watch four bouts of violence, even though it was the same thing four times? | ||
| Because I feel like it happened four times now, all of a sudden. | ||
| All right, let's grab some more Super Chats. | ||
| Raymond G. Stanley Jr. | ||
| says, Tim, my guy, some good news. | ||
| Your call to create culture is being heard. | ||
| I got a sneak peek at Salty Draw's comic book, Silence Do Good. | ||
| It slaps. | ||
| I really think you and others will dig it. | ||
| Right on, very glad to hear it. | ||
| We need someone to run the grant program, however we're doing it, I have no idea. | ||
| I say these things like, here's the thing I want to do, and then it doesn't happen, because someone has to run the program, but we want to do a thing where once a month we give 10 grand to someone for their cultural endeavor. | ||
| And a lot of people are like, I want to do a podcast, and it's like, eh, there's eight million podcasts. | ||
| If you're going to paint something, or do a series of paintings or something, or a comic, or music, or I don't know. | ||
| One thing we definitely want to do is more bands for Trash House Records. | ||
| So we have another song in the works, but we are working on signing a very large musical enterprise. | ||
| And then we're looking at a few others too, so we're really excited for that. | ||
| Alright, what do we got? | ||
| Dino Carosi says, Mr. Timothy, is your coffee ever going to be available for order up here in Kami, Canada? | ||
| I need a damn fine cup of Roberto Jr. | ||
| Uh, I don't know. | ||
| I guess we'll have to figure it out. | ||
| International shipping, we gotta figure that one out. | ||
| But the answer is, it will eventually. | ||
| We're hoping that in ten years, it's a big brand. | ||
| It exists everywhere. | ||
| For that matter, I want to give Mr. Beast a shoutout. | ||
| That dude's amazing. | ||
| Oh, I love him. | ||
| He's got candy bars. | ||
| He's got cheeseburgers. | ||
| Feastables. | ||
| Feastables is his candy company. | ||
| So check this out. | ||
| Mr. Beast is doing everything, and I think that's fantastic. | ||
| His candy bars have five ingredients. | ||
| I was at 7-Eleven, and I see these things, and I look at it, and it's like... | ||
| Cream, it's like milk, cocoa, sugar, and there's like no garbage in it. | ||
| Thought it was great. | ||
| They melt really easily, though. | ||
| But that's very inspirational to me. | ||
| How old is Mr. Beast? | ||
| Like 26? | ||
| I got like a decade on this guy. | ||
| But he's hitting the nail on the head with the hammer. | ||
| He's got his show, and so what does he do? | ||
| He's expanding all of his business in a bunch of different areas, and I think he's doing good things. | ||
| Cheeseburgers are fantastic. | ||
| Not the healthiest thing in the world. | ||
| But the fact that he's making candy bars that actually get rid of a lot of the gunk and the garbage, I think is a positive step forward. | ||
| So I got mad respect for him. | ||
| He's actually 25. | ||
| Twenty-five? | ||
| I got twelve years in that game. | ||
| He got invited onto the Titan Submersible, I believe. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I'm glad he didn't go. | ||
| Turned it down, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, uh, you know, if... Candy bars are not good. | ||
| But if we can replace the garbage plastic candy bars with basic ingredients candy bars, because of people like Mr. Beast, we're moving in a positive direction. | ||
| A little bit of them is okay, but the addictive quality of sugar is what's really the challenge. | ||
| Once you eat one piece, you've got to kind of set it down and not let it overcome. | ||
| It's true, dude. | ||
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It's true. | |
| Dude, we have—wineberry season has begun, and it's like nature's Sour Patch Kids. | ||
| When you get them when they're perfectly ripe and big and red and juicy, it's more like a Swedish fish. | ||
| They don't actually taste like it, but if you get them just before they're red, there's a little sour tart to it, and it is so good. | ||
| And there's like 50,000 of them right behind this window right here. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| Tim picked some and he's like, hey, here, why don't you try one of these? | ||
| And then I like started eating it. | ||
| I was like, wait, have you had one of these? | ||
| You're like, no. | ||
| I was like, wait, is it going to kill me? | ||
| That was the cherry, I think. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Dude, we made wineberry ice cream. | ||
| We took an ice cream machine, and then we took the wineberries and we just threw them in, and the most amazing thing happens. | ||
| It breaks the wineberries up, but doesn't pop the, what are they called, druplets? | ||
| The little pods? | ||
| They freeze, and so when you eat the ice cream, you have little frozen druplets that basically pop. | ||
| It's amazing, it's so good. | ||
| Yeah, we're gonna make, um... Let's do that again. | ||
| We're gonna make wine wine. | ||
| We're gonna make, we made jam with it. | ||
| Plus we got mulberries, but I'm aware I can't have mulberries. | ||
| We have Allegheny and Himalayan blackberry everywhere. | ||
| Nature's great. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| Nature's good. | ||
| I wanna do more ice cream. | ||
| Yeah, we, we wanna do, uh, we wanna make, uh, oh, and we got, you can, you can tap black walnut trees for syrup. | ||
| Really? | ||
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Wow. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| And they say it tastes like butterscotch. | ||
| So we're going to make a black walnut syrup because we've got big black walnut trees everywhere here. | ||
| Black walnut oil, I think, is like a good medicine for... Super excited. | ||
| For, like, anti-parasite medicine. | ||
| It's used in parasite cleanses. | ||
| Yeah, apparently the black walnut nut is actually anti-parasitic. | ||
| I don't know enough about that to get anywhere near that. | ||
| Apparently you can't eat them. | ||
| But I read that... So there's farms out here that actually sell its thick, dark black walnut syrup. | ||
| And it's like syrup, you can put it on pancakes, it's like butterscotch. | ||
| And so we're gonna make some. | ||
| We're gonna tap the tree and it takes a long time and you gotta filter it, boil it down, filter it again, boil it down, filter it. | ||
| Very excited. | ||
| Plus we do have some maples we're thinking of tapping, get some maple syrup too. | ||
| Super cool stuff. | ||
| Yo, it's crazy. | ||
| You walk outside, and I have this app called Picture This, and we can see all the different edible fruits and stuff. | ||
| Yo, the grapes are everywhere. | ||
| From a distance? | ||
| You, like, aim it, and it tells you? | ||
| Take a picture. | ||
| You take a picture, and it's like, this is the plant. | ||
| There's an insane amount of grapes. | ||
| The vines have taken over everything. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Nuts. | ||
| When you're, like, driving into the property, you can probably see, like, 7,000 grapes. | ||
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Yeah, you can. | |
| Yeah, they're getting bigger and bigger. | ||
| There'd be lots of grapes out there. | ||
| Grapes. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Alright, let's grab some more Super Chats. | ||
| What have we here? | ||
| Mahil said, Ford did a 2024 Ranger with a militant pride flag as a paint job. | ||
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| All right, let's see. | ||
| Max Reddix says, I heard you mention in a previous segment that maybe you will invite Sam on the Culture War podcast. | ||
| I think how Emma looked after her segment really showed who she is. | ||
| You should consider doing the same with Sam. | ||
| I think we won't. | ||
| And the reason is, When, you know, what ended up happening was something came up where we ended up talking about the majority report. | ||
| And then Emma Vigeland hit us up saying she wanted to come on the show because they know that we're basically like, we invited Sam on before, he played us and used it for drama and clickbait, so I said no more, not doing it. | ||
| She came on the show and we offered her a tour of the property, we offered her sushi, she stood in the center of our skate park and met some of our staff, and then afterwards she lied and claimed she didn't see the skate park, we didn't show her around, and it was the weirdest thing ever. | ||
| It's because they're just lying to get clicks. | ||
| They're apparently upset now because we ran a segment that says leftist defends, you know, adult book and dating apps for kids, and they're angry, but she literally didn't defend it. | ||
| She literally said it was a good book. | ||
| I was actually shocked, right, because I've seen a bit of her content on the Majority Report. | ||
| I responded to one of the videos they did, but for her to come say something was a good book without knowing what was in it was shocking to me. | ||
| And the book in question is this one. | ||
| when you point out... | ||
| I opened genderqueer and showed her and she goes, I don't care about that and I don't | ||
| believe in censorship. | ||
| I'm sorry to interrupt you, Shane. | ||
| I'm not trying to rehash that. | ||
| I'm trying to make a point just about Sam. | ||
| The reason why I don't want him on this show is because... | ||
| what do we like to do? | ||
| Serious conversation around these issues and our passions. | ||
| What will Sam do? | ||
| He'll come in here and he'll, like, jump from the rafters and body slam the table and do other... But we could talk about socialized medicine and why, like, people taking risk kind of violates the ethos of social medicine. | ||
| He'll pretend to misunderstand something to make you say something, to make a clip out of it. | ||
| That's what they do. | ||
| And then he'll lie about what happened when he came here, like Emma did. | ||
| I think I have a bulletproof defense on socialized medicine. | ||
| Anyone that thinks we need that is crazy, in my opinion. | ||
| At first, when Emma said she didn't see the skate park, I'm like, did she not realize she was standing next to it? | ||
| Maybe she walked past and didn't realize there's ramps everywhere and rails and a seven foot tall vert wall. | ||
| And then I was told by the staff that she actually stood in the center of it after they parked their car and she walked through it. | ||
| And it's like, okay, so she's just lying. | ||
| If we invite Sam on the show, if you invite Sam on your show, that's what he does. | ||
| When I invited him on Twitter, he lied and said, yes, I'll come on the show, and then DMed me privately saying, I'm not going on your show. | ||
| It was a trick. | ||
| It's just... | ||
| You know what, by all means, Sam, do your thing. | ||
| If you're just making reality TV, make reality TV under the guise of politics. | ||
| I'm down for whatever, I just can't stand talking about them. | ||
| I would love to either never mention the majority report, Sam Seder, Emma Vigeland, never mention them again, and keep doing what we're doing, or have them on, get over it, and then never mention them again. | ||
| We're talking about them because we just had them on last week, and now they're lying about what happened for clicks. | ||
| So it's become something we'll talk about. | ||
| Will we talk about it in three days? | ||
| Probably not. | ||
| Uh, this week, and I was wrong, I said we were gonna have two guests on this Friday. | ||
| Yeah, next week. | ||
| That's next week! | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| This week, we will have a good show as well, that I think will probably be talking about abortion or something, so we'll see. | ||
| Should be interesting. | ||
| That next week is, like, stacked. | ||
| Not this Friday, but the next Friday. | ||
| Yes, the next one, pardon me. | ||
| Yeah, it's gonna be a blast. | ||
| It's a lot, yeah. | ||
| Very exciting. | ||
| It's gonna be cool. | ||
| We should, I'll reach out to our guests to talk about, like, promotion for the shows, because we'll make, like, graphics for it and everything. | ||
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| And then if they're cool, which they probably are, I just don't like to say things before, because, like, I'll give them a heads up. | ||
| Although they may have talked about it already. | ||
| I like the graphic for the Emma Vigeland episode that you guys did. | ||
| How it's kind of fading and there's, like, graphics in the background. | ||
| It's really cool. | ||
| How'd it make it? | ||
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| On the thumbnail. | ||
| Let's grab some more Super Chats. | ||
| Daniel Domasik says, Greatest side hustle, buy Bud Light for $12, get $50 rebate, and make content destroying Bud Light. | ||
| Double dip monetize on both. | ||
| Well, I think the rebate's up to the purchase price. | ||
| So actually, the hustle would be to buy Bud Light, get the rebate, and then, you know, walk around with a cooler at baseball games or something. | ||
| Which you should not do, because you can't sell alcohol. | ||
| But I'm saying that would be a hustle. | ||
| I'll also add this. | ||
| The reason they're giving the rebates is because they want you to take the product because it's worse for them if you don't. | ||
| They have to pay to get rid of it. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Bud Light is in more pain when you don't take their product because they have to pay to get rid of it. | ||
| That's why they're doing this. | ||
| Do not take the rebate. | ||
| Don't try to do any kind of hustle. | ||
| Do nothing with this, alright? | ||
| They need to feel the pain. | ||
| This is interesting. | ||
| Sam Uriah says, we need a strictly enforced tiered internet with ratings like movies and TV shows. | ||
| We must have this discussion in Congress and pull up actual porn for congressional record in seconds for Americas to see. | ||
| This is interesting because in the early days of the internet, we were all very much 100% pro-free speech. | ||
| You should be allowed to post whatever you want online. | ||
| Then we saw what people were posting and we're like, you know what? | ||
| Maybe this free speech thing isn't always cracked up to be. | ||
| There are limits to what you're allowed to do in public. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And so right now we have the worst of both worlds. | ||
| You are allowed to go in public with pictures of aborted fetuses and protest against abortion. | ||
| You are not allowed to do that on the internet. | ||
| They will delete your content, they'll ban it, they'll say it's graphic and offensive. | ||
| So, the internet is allowing the worst porn and stuff, censoring political debate. | ||
| It's the worst of everything. | ||
| You cannot go into public and show lewd and lascivious activities of adults. | ||
| You will get charged for, you know, breaking the law. | ||
| That's not free speech. | ||
| Unless you're a teacher for whatever reason. | ||
| Well, right, but I mean like... You're not going to get in any trouble. | ||
| Talking about what we should be allowed to do on the internet versus the real world, I think it should be comparable. | ||
| You can't go into Times Square holding a big picture or holding up a TV that's playing porn. | ||
| They will immediately come and be like, take this down, you can't do this, it's illegal. | ||
| But you can do it on the internet, you can do it on Twitter. | ||
| If kids can have access to it, we should seriously question whether or not it should be allowed. | ||
| At the same time, you can go into Times Square with pictures of aborted babies and protest abortion. | ||
| They can get mad at you about it, but that is free speech, that's protected. | ||
| But people do it. | ||
| In a lot of places. | ||
| But if you go on Twitter and do that, they'll flag you, they'll censor the video and say it's inappropriate. | ||
| I think this may have changed under Musk, but if you just misgendered somebody on Twitter, if you don't use someone's fake, made-up pronouns, that could get you kicked off Twitter. | ||
| In real life, you could do that. | ||
| So we need to make sure kids don't have access to obscene content. | ||
| It should be a crime to be sharing it with kids. | ||
| Or, let me put it this way. | ||
| Right now, you have these porn websites that are like, are you actually 18? | ||
| You click yes. | ||
| Like, that's ridiculous. | ||
| Imagine if a guy was outside in the street, and he had a bunch of nudie mags, and a kid walked up, and he was like, are you old enough? | ||
| And the kid said, yep. | ||
| And he goes, works for me! | ||
| Imagine if there was a casino. | ||
| And a 10-year-old kid walks in and the security guard goes, are you old enough to gamble? | ||
| And the kid goes, yeah. | ||
| And he goes, works for me. | ||
| I just went to AB InBev's website to find out if Stella was one of their products. | ||
| And it was like, wait, wait, before you view our website, are you 18? | ||
| And I was like, yes. | ||
| And they were like, okay, good. | ||
| Imagine going to a bar. | ||
| A 10-year-old kid walks into a bar like, hey, hold on there a minute, are you old enough to drink? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Works for me. | ||
| That's not how it works. | ||
| There's a classic bit from the first episode of The Simpsons where Bart sits down, he goes to get a tattoo, and the guy goes, wait a minute, are you 21? | ||
| He goes, of course, sir. | ||
| And he's like, alright. | ||
| It's a weird conversation because the internet's not public. | ||
| It's not the public like we know the public before the internet. | ||
| You do it from your own home. | ||
| If you're sending an email to someone, there's no public activity going on. | ||
| If it's a website that everyone can access, technically, we consider it kind of public, but if someone doesn't have a computer, they have no ability to access it. | ||
| So it's not really publicly available unless you have money to buy a machine to utilize it. | ||
| That's like saying if someone stands in Times Square with a picture, it's not publicly accessible because you can't travel to Times Square. | ||
| Everyone can travel to Times Square. | ||
| Everyone can walk there. | ||
| No, they can't. | ||
| Yeah, everyone has access. | ||
| Foot traffic. | ||
| Everyone can get there. | ||
| There's no, like... That's not true. | ||
| Financial... If you're in Seattle, you're not gonna survive a trek to New York City. | ||
| Oh, but you could. | ||
| You could do it. | ||
| Legally. | ||
| And physically. | ||
| You physically could take a bus and go there and walk there and be there without having to... | ||
| Well, technically you'd have to buy the bus ticket, I guess, in that position. | ||
| Right, I'm saying like if you just walked you, you'd have the resources to do it. | ||
| But if it was like... | ||
| Now you can make the argument you can go to a library because the computers are there for | ||
| public use or you can see the images on a TV in a bookstore display window. | ||
| So like it is publicly accessible. | ||
| Just because you don't have the means to do it is not the argument. | ||
| Publicly accessible is different than public, I guess. | ||
| I want to mention something. | ||
| Tim, you mentioned there needs to be stronger age verification on pornographic websites, aside from someone just going, yes, I am 18. | ||
| In Utah, they implemented a law requiring strengthened protections so that children can stumble on porn, and what Pornhub did was they boycotted Utah as a result. | ||
| Nope, we don't want to show stuff to people in Utah. | ||
| Well, that's a win on both fronts, but also you are making it abundantly clear that it's extremely important for your business model to be able to show pornographic content to minors. | ||
| I want to mention something. | ||
| You mentioned the 21. | ||
| Someone asked you if you're 21. | ||
| We went out to eat a couple months ago, and we were ordering drinks, and the waiter was like, are you 21? | ||
| And I was like, no. | ||
| I'm 37! | ||
| What am I supposed to say to that question? | ||
| Are you 21? | ||
| No, I'm not. | ||
| I'm older than that. | ||
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| I was like, no, I'm older than 21. | ||
| It's like a weird question to ask. | ||
| Are you at least 21? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Are you 21? | ||
| No. | ||
| He's like, wait, what? | ||
| I think a better formulation would be, have you 21 years? | ||
| Because if you have 37 years, you do have 27. | ||
| You do have 21 years. | ||
| That's actually how they phrase it, I think, in, like, French and Spanish. | ||
| Yeah, like, how many years do you have? | ||
| And then, like, do you have at least... Do you have 21 years? | ||
| I do, I have more than that, actually. | ||
| Are you 21? | ||
| No. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Jon Stewart says, when I had sex ed in high school in the 90s, it was about contraception use and STD prevention, and we had to have signed parental consent. | ||
| Yeah, that's what I remember. | ||
| You mean they didn't give you BDSM education and talk about eating poop? | ||
| I guess those were the dark ages, Tim. | ||
| Even in 5th grade, they told me, it was like 1988 or 9 or something, they said, like, it is pleasurable, and abstinence, they have accepted abstinence doesn't work, is the thing. | ||
| Like, they weren't saying, don't do it. | ||
| They were saying, if you do it, be very careful, use a condom, and they were like, because STDs and pregnancy. | ||
| That was like the ethos. | ||
| The idea that abstinence doesn't work comes from Kinsey, and all that data was fudged, Well, that was a funny thing, too, about when we had Emma on, because she asked me two things that didn't apply to this show or me. | ||
| She asked me if, like, well, what if, should they allow the Bible in schools? | ||
| Like, isn't the Bible, I was like, no, I think there's things in the Bible that parents should probably be talking to their kids about. | ||
| Like, what is it? | ||
| Ezekiel 2320, the meme verse, talks about emissions of horses and stuff like that. | ||
| Yeah, that's like something the parents, so sure. | ||
| And then she asked me if I was in favor of abstinence-only sex education. | ||
| I was like, no, of course not. | ||
| It's like, oh, like, dude, like, what do you think? | ||
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| But, uh, let's, uh, what was I going to read? | ||
| Badass. | ||
| Oh, here we go. | ||
| Thomas TJG says, Reuters claims that every living president are descendants of slave owners except Trump. | ||
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Wait a minute. | |
| Wait a minute. | ||
| They're all descendants of slaves. | ||
| Well, his mother was white, so maybe her ancestors were. | ||
| It's because I think Trump's... Didn't Trump's grandparents immigrate here? | ||
| Yeah, they were from Germany. | ||
| It's funny that they said that about Obama too. | ||
| They just threw him in there. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| I want to look that up. | ||
| I want to see if it's true that Obama's grandparents... I saw this article earlier. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| No way. | ||
| Yo, but that's not shocking for the United States. | ||
| You need to realize what that means. | ||
| It means that slave owners were raping slaves. | ||
| That's screwed up. | ||
| And so there are a lot of people in this country who are black or descendants of slave owners for very messed up reasons. | ||
| Often when I explain to people why my whole life I was told I was Korean and then found out that I was part Japanese, it's not for good reasons that my Korean ancestors have some Japanese in them. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Well, is that why they talk about it? | ||
| Because I would imagine if that was in your ancestry because of a slave being, you know, abused by an owner that you wouldn't, like, consider yourself a descendant of them. | ||
| No, you still are. | ||
| I'm just saying there was that black activist woman, I've forgotten. | ||
| Rachel Dolezal? | ||
| No, no, she wasn't really black. | ||
| No, there was like a prominent black activist who found out that she was a descendant of... who was that? | ||
| I don't remember her name, but I remember the clip. | ||
| And everyone started laughing about how funny it was, and I'm like, guys, that's not funny. | ||
| Like, that proves her point. | ||
| That proves her activism. | ||
| That's a good point, dude. | ||
| They were trying to make it seem like because she was against racism and, like, fighting all this stuff, it was somehow discredited because she was actually a descendant of slave owners, and I'm like, no. | ||
| That bolsters all of her arguments. | ||
| It's a horrifying thing. | ||
| Well, and also to be like, yeah, you're against this thing? | ||
| Then why did your ancestors do it? | ||
| What? | ||
| Excuse me? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm like, I tell people like, oh yeah, for most of my life I said I was like, you know, part Korean, but now I know that I'm 5% Japanese. | ||
| And they're like, oh, that's cool. | ||
| I'm like, actually, it's not. | ||
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Actually, it's not. | |
| No, it kind of is, I don't know, but it's like kind of horrifying when you think about it. | ||
| Yeah, not a lot of good things were happening over there a long time ago, if you get my drift. | ||
| All right, let's see what we got. | ||
| GS059 says, Ian, people demanded gun-free zones. | ||
| Now there are signs everywhere. | ||
| It doesn't matter if they work or not. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| They were like, hey, we don't want guns here, so put up a sign, and then people are just, criminals just gonna criminal. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Doesn't matter. | ||
| Not gonna stop them. | ||
| PowderPZ says, why aren't we talking about the actual content of the audio tape? | ||
| Not just that one line. | ||
| They were trying to force him to evade Iran. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| Like, he was like, look, Millie drew up these documents to invade Iran. | ||
| That's why they're going after him, partly. | ||
| Because Trump was like, we're not gonna invade this, are you nuts? | ||
| And they were like, we want to. | ||
| And you're gonna do it. | ||
| Trump didn't start any new wars. | ||
| That's why they don't like him. | ||
| Partly, why they don't like him. | ||
| It's a big reason. | ||
| Oh, this, okay, I'm totally sidetracking here, but I just realized when you mentioned the | ||
| thing about Obama potentially being the descendant of people who own slaves, but Obama's not | ||
| a descendant of slaves. | ||
| Like his dad was from Kenya. | ||
| He's not the descendant of American slaves. | ||
| So if he does have slaveholders in his past, that it would have been like, it wouldn't | ||
| have been because the slave was abused. | ||
| I still don't think that matters, to be completely honest. | ||
| Look, I don't want to punish people for the sins of their ancestors, but at the same time, you know, you could imagine that being used against any Republican. | ||
| Thomas Jefferson owned slaves. | ||
| He had a lot of really, really awesome ideas. | ||
| Owning slaves was not one of the good things he did. | ||
| However, the ideas and the seeds that were planted by the Founding Fathers led very quickly to the abolition of slavery. | ||
| Look, people point out that the Commonwealth countries abolished slavery well before we did. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| And then we had to fight a massive civil war, partially over slavery, over the issues around it. | ||
| Economics, it's a lot more complicated than that. | ||
| A lot of people died because of it. | ||
| And, you know, so I think the founding documents and the founding fathers, for all their faults, planted some good seeds that have made this country fantastic. | ||
| I would agree, and people will argue, well, the founders wanted the United States to be this new free country, but then they didn't put anything in the Constitution that forbids slavery. | ||
| Okay, we're not going to get the 13 colonies to ratify the Constitution and the Bill of Rights if you had something in there that banned slavery. | ||
| It doesn't mean that all of the founders were in favor of slavery. | ||
| It just means that as a political reality, they were not going to be able to have their system of government pass unless the colonies ratified, and if they couldn't get it to pass, then they would just go back to England, which was not based on principles of freedom, and so there would be less reason to believe slavery would ever end. | ||
| And the power that Thomas Jefferson had was a lot of it was because of the slaves that he owned doing his labor for him. | ||
| And without that power, he wouldn't have been as influential and able to go to Congress and be a congressman and all those things. | ||
| So it was, you know, it's double-edged sword. | ||
| The Cranky Gen Xer says... Wait, I don't know what that means. | ||
| I'm not gonna read that one. | ||
| Dave Dowell says, Ian, Cali has border checks for produce. | ||
| They check random cars, not just farmers. | ||
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| If a state wants checkpoints, it's legal. | ||
| Also, the whole point of defunding the police is to create a national police. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Many people pointing out that there are checkpoints for fruit laws. | ||
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| California and Nevada. | ||
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Yes. | |
| Crazy. | ||
| Yeah, actually, I think wine berries are illegal to transport. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Because of the bugs? | ||
| No, because they're an invasive species. | ||
| They choke out other plants. | ||
| But they're so good. | ||
| They are massive. | ||
| They're raspberries. | ||
| They're a Chinese kind of raspberry. | ||
| They're called wineberries because people make wine with them. | ||
| And we intend to harvest them and we're going to juice them. | ||
| We're going to make a syrup with the wineberry juice. | ||
| We're going to cook it down, maybe add a little lemon juice and some sugar. | ||
| And then we're going to use the pulp to make cakes and cookies. | ||
| Yeah, it's gonna be awesome. | ||
| And we're gonna make ice cream. | ||
| Dude, I'm pretty pumped, to be honest. | ||
| So great, we're gonna make ice cream. | ||
| The ice cream machine's really fun. | ||
| You scrape it, it's getting cold on the top. | ||
| We have two. | ||
| We have the one that automatically spins, and then we have the cold sheet where you pour it on and then you scrape it and mix it around. | ||
| Yeah, it's so much fun. | ||
| Yeah, you can buy them on Amazon. | ||
| Good, fun stuff. | ||
| Alright, let's see what we got in the old Super Chats here. | ||
| Ian Kinney says, did you reach out to Ice Cube for the Culture War or IRL? | ||
| I think somebody did. | ||
| I don't handle booking, so. | ||
| He's going on a tour. | ||
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He is? | |
| Well, not a musical tour. | ||
| He's going on a tour to talk about how he can't stand the, I don't know, what is it, the global economic order? | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| He's frustrated about something. | ||
| He wants to let people know. | ||
| The gatekeepers. | ||
| Ice Cube? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Ice Cube says the gatekeepers, he's going to bypass the gatekeepers and do shows and stuff. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Brin Terranova says, is Trash House taking demo submissions? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| So, uh, social stations are very, very hard. | ||
| I think we'll have to confer with Carter on how we want to handle that moving forward. | ||
| And then he's basically in charge of it also. | ||
| But I will talk to him about it. | ||
| We have a new song coming out shortly. | ||
| And we're in we're negotiating with another band about releasing some songs that I think are absolutely fantastic. | ||
| So we'll see what happens. | ||
| And then yeah, we want we want more. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
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Let's grab a couple more here. | |
| Hold on. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| That's completely ridiculous. | ||
| heard Seamus say society survived because of the Ten Commandments, let's just ignore | ||
| all those other civilizations that existed before Christianity killed everyone else. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| That's completely ridiculous. | ||
| People had something approximating the Ten Commandments in very many cultures throughout | ||
| world history. | ||
| And if your culture ended up rising to a point of prominence where you were able to amass | ||
| wealth and have a large-scale civilization, it's because you were following something | ||
| approximating the Ten Commandments. | ||
| Dude, you cannot have a functioning society and you cannot build wealth if one person is sleeping with every woman in the community. | ||
| People are committing adultery, people are stealing, people are killing. | ||
| What's happened in various societies historically As they become wealthy and as they become insulated, certain people who are very high status ended up being able to routinely violate those moral principles without suffering consequences. | ||
| And there wasn't the same Christian framework to tell them that even as powerful people there would be eternal consequences for their actions. | ||
| But people at the bottom of the hierarchy and people who are living in a state of nature basically always came to the same moral conclusions, and if they didn't come to those moral conclusions, their tribe never rose out of its more natural state to build a large-scale civilization. | ||
| I guess the Aztecs is all I'm thinking about. | ||
| They weren't really large-scale, I guess. | ||
| Yeah, well, no, no, no, so, but even the Aztecs, right? | ||
| The Aztecs had a horrific culture, and I acknowledge that there have been many horrible and satanic cultures throughout history, but the masses were not encouraged to do things like steal, kill, and rape, and if they were, then those civilizations crumbled. | ||
| And let's talk about that in the Members Only show, so smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, head over to TimCast.com, click join us, become a member, because the uncensored Members Only show will begin in a few minutes, and you don't want to miss it, it's going to be good fun. | ||
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| Gene, do you want to shout anything out? | ||
| Hey, just thanks for having me on. | ||
| Go to our website, AFlegal.org, check out all the work that we're doing on censorship, parents' rights, everything, fighting the culture wars for everybody. | ||
| I make cartoons. | ||
| I have a YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes and a website called FreedomTunes.com. | ||
| We're releasing a video this Thursday about the Pride Month. | ||
| If that wasn't, I think you guys are going to enjoy it, and I think you'll also enjoy the video we released last week where I reviewed a bunch of Pride Month memes. | ||
| I fixed them. | ||
| I actually made them funny. | ||
| It's a 10-minute long video. | ||
| I think you'll like it, and there's a 30-minute long cut of it behind the paywall. | ||
| Head over there, check it out. | ||
| Thank you so much, and have a wonderful day. | ||
| Have an extremely awesome evening and day. | ||
| Tomorrow as well. | ||
| Have a great week. | ||
| I'm Ian Crossland. | ||
| Very happy to see you guys. | ||
| Happy to be a part of the show. | ||
| Good to be here, Gene. | ||
| People are going to follow you on Twitter. | ||
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| It's a one. | ||
| America 1ST Legal. | ||
| You got it. | ||
| Hell yeah, dude. | ||
| Good to see you again, man. | ||
| Likewise. | ||
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