May 10, 2023 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
02:05:42
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| Tonight, CNN is hosting Donald Trump at a town hall that we have to absolutely watch | ||
| and probably make fun of. | ||
| Now, I don't know that we're going to make fun of Trump. | ||
| We'll probably make fun of the questions and then probably answer them or actually ask better questions, but we're going to be covering this and commenting on CNN's town hall with Donald Trump. | ||
| I think it's very important to break down, fact check, and call out any lies. | ||
| And there is some news. | ||
| The reason we're starting a few minutes early today is because they are going to be doing the town hall at 8 p.m. | ||
| Unlike a Trump speech, this one will probably be on time. | ||
| Well, maybe not, but more likely to be on time, considering it's CNN scheduling and not Trump's. | ||
| But I do want to give a shout out to some news stories. | ||
| Juror 77. | ||
| Ah, yes. | ||
| I'm in the news once again. | ||
| First, it was because apparently some guy, a horrible man, ran a Russian social media account where he posted clips from one episode of our show, which constitutes a fan, I suppose. | ||
| Then we get this other juror in the E. Jean Carroll story, the rape trial for Trump, who apparently watched four episodes of the show as well, and they said that constitutes him being a fan, and for that, he should be disqualified from the jury. | ||
| They also called me an extremist, a conspiracy theorist, and all the other nonsense. | ||
| But I do think it's fascinating that they would go that far. | ||
| You've watched a show a couple times? | ||
| Kick him off the jury. | ||
| That's how you know they're in a cult. | ||
| Because I don't see conservatives or the right or disaffected liberals doing anything Anything like that, or any sane jury. | ||
| How often do you hear of a jury, any side, plaintiff, defendant, whatever, being like, this guy watched four episodes of Rachel Maddow. | ||
| They should be removed from the trial. | ||
| That's how insane these people are, but I want to give a shout out to that story, so definitely shouting that one out. | ||
| Then we got some news as it pertains to Bud Light. | ||
| Their sales are down even more this week. | ||
| Now, according to Nielsen, 21% down last week, 23% down this week, and we're still lagging by about two weeks of data. | ||
| So I can only imagine the next weeks are going to get worse because it's becoming more than just a boycott. | ||
| It has become toxic. | ||
| Just people who don't even know what's going on don't want to be associated. | ||
| And according to Fox News, Dylan Mulvaney says they have trouble sleeping at night over this. | ||
| So we'll talk about all that. | ||
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| We're going to have a members-only uncensored show coming up for all of you. | ||
| It's going to be a whole lot of fun tonight after we wrap up this town hall because we do have a lot of news that we're probably not going to be able to get into. | ||
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| Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more and to comment humorously on the town hall is Carpe Donctum. | ||
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Hello! | |
| Who are you? | ||
| What do you do? | ||
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Well, I'm a meme maker. | |
| I make the funnies on the internet. | ||
| I was banned from Twitter for a couple years, so that was really fun. | ||
| I got sued over a meme. | ||
| That was really fun. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| I met the president once. | ||
| Oh, that's cool. | ||
| You make a bunch of funny memes, and they don't like you for it. | ||
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They really, really don't. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| CNN really doesn't like me. | ||
| Daily Beast, I think it's pretty much all of them. | ||
| Right on. | ||
| But did you get anyone disqualified from a jury? | ||
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I didn't either, so I don't know. | |
| Okay, no, I did get a guy thrown out of his school board. | ||
| His school board. | ||
| Because he shared one of my memes. | ||
| Oh, OK. | ||
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That was a couple years ago. | |
| All right. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Well, this should be fun. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Well, we got about a minute going. | ||
| We got Ben Stewart hanging out. | ||
| No Seamus. | ||
| How's it going, everybody? | ||
| BenJosephStewart.com, a documentary filmmaker. | ||
| And pretty soon, I have a film with Harrison Schultz called Game of Money. | ||
| That's going to be coming up on TimCast. | ||
| So that's going to be fun. | ||
| Right on. | ||
| And I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlow. | ||
| I'm a writer for TimCast.com. | ||
| And I am Surge.com. | ||
| I'm ready for this town hall when you are. | ||
| Yeah, we're just waiting. | ||
| We have about a minute until the town hall starts. | ||
| We've got CNN playing it. | ||
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How does he deal with this latest legal disaster? | |
| I really don't want to hear what these people have to say right now. | ||
| Oh, someone's walking on stage. | ||
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I certainly don't think he'll change his tune on that, but I can't imagine it. | |
| I'm sorry, I'm just going to mute that until they actually start getting ready, because I don't need to hear from those people. | ||
| I don't want to hear what CNN has to say. | ||
| But the other big story, as I suppose we're waiting for the town hall to start, was that Donald Trump was found liable in that rape trial, I guess. | ||
| And the crazy thing is, we talked about this last night, one of the jurors apparently was a fan of the show, and he still, they were unanimous, they unanimously found that Trump was liable for sexual abuse of this woman. | ||
| With what evidence? | ||
| Zero. | ||
| Zero evidence? | ||
| She came out and said, like, this one time this thing happened, and they're like, wow, Trump better pay her five million dollars. | ||
| Yeah, 30-year-old bruises, you know? | ||
| 30-year-old bruises? | ||
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Did she have pictures or something? | |
| No, she didn't. | ||
| That's a joke I'm making. | ||
| She still had them for 30 years, you know. | ||
| There's no evidence. | ||
| There's nothing there. | ||
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Do you know how they can even do that? | |
| How they can find somebody liable for a crime that they can't even prove happened? | ||
| There's no crime. | ||
| Last year, New York passed a law saying that people who are assaulted can sue the people who assaulted them forever or something like that. | ||
| And apparently they went on CNN and said, like, we helped get this law passed. | ||
| So they helped make a law that says they can sue a guy. | ||
| This is why I'm saying Trump's going to be convicted of the tax fraud or whatever they're calling it, improper business filings. | ||
| They're going to convict him. | ||
| It's going to be unanimous. | ||
| Do you know when they got that law passed? | ||
| A year ago. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| I wonder if they had this brewing for that long. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| Probably passed the law to bring this case. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| I mean, I think they said that, didn't they? | ||
| That they helped get the law passed that allowed them to bring this case. | ||
| And then you get a jury in New York unanimously says Trump is liable. | ||
| That's why I'm like, people are saying, you got to get this guy in the show. | ||
| And I'm like, this anti-Trump guy who thinks Trump's responsible 30 years ago? | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yo, he said he watched the four episodes of the show. | ||
| He didn't say that he was a big fan of it. | ||
| I mean, I'd love to talk to them. | ||
| What is CNN doing? | ||
| Are they getting ready for this? | ||
| Here we go. | ||
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There's no way to like lower the volume on this. | |
| It's so stupid. | ||
| Just mute it. | ||
| I can just run it down. | ||
| Yeah, I just need to be able to mute it periodically. | ||
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Town. | |
| Ugh. | ||
| Look at her power suit. | ||
| We're live here at St. Anselm College for CNN's Town Hall with former President Donald Trump. | ||
| Town. | ||
| I'm Kaitlin Collins. | ||
| Tonight, President Trump is here as he embarks on a campaign unlike any other in the history | ||
| of U.S. presidential elections. | ||
| He's the first former president in more than a century to seek a return to the White House. | ||
| She's so awful. | ||
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And he is currently leading the Republican deal. | |
| Do we know? | ||
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Her. | |
| It's just her? | ||
| I think so, yeah. | ||
| Don Lemon's not doing it? | ||
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No. | |
| No? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| No, he doesn't work at CNN anymore. | ||
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Oh, is it? | |
| Does it happen? | ||
| questions are off the table. No, he doesn't work at CNN anymore. Oh, is it happened? Oh, I didn't know. Our | ||
| Oh. | ||
| audience is made up of Republicans and undeclared voters. | ||
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Elon Musk offered Don Lemon, New Hampshire's Republican. | |
| No joke, seriously he did. | ||
| That would be a very hot question. | ||
| So what do we think? | ||
| Is Trump going to be as crazy as ever or is he going to be really toned down? | ||
| I think he's going to probably tone himself down. | ||
| He may make a few remarks. | ||
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He's dying. | |
| He's looking presidential. | ||
| Joe Biden. | ||
| Is Trump gonna be as crazy as ever or is he gonna be really toned down? | ||
| For President Donald Trump. | ||
| I think he's gonna probably tone himself down. | ||
| He may make a few remarks. | ||
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He's here. | |
| He's dying. | ||
| He's looking presidential. | ||
| Oh, one side standing ovation. | ||
| Got that power tie on. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| So for those that are listening, we'll be reading your Super Chats periodically throughout the show, where they're most relevant. | ||
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Did you notice he doesn't have an X where he has to walk? | |
| Thank you for your time here tonight. | ||
| Oh yeah, like a mark. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| We have a great crowd here in New Hampshire, a lot of voters, with a lot of questions about | ||
| what your 2024 term would look like, what another Trump term would look like. | ||
| We'll get to the voters shortly, but your polls show that you are dominating the Republican | ||
| race right now, but you are also under active federal investigation for trying to overturn | ||
| the 2020 election results. | ||
| Your first term ended with a deadly riot at the Capitol, and you still have not publicly acknowledged the police involvement in the election results. | ||
| Why should Americans put you back in the White House? | ||
| Because we did fantastically. | ||
| We got 12 million more votes than we had in, as you know, in 2016. | ||
| I actually say we did far better in that election. | ||
| Got the most that anybody's ever gotten as a sitting president of the United States. | ||
| I think that when you look at that result and when you look at what happened during that election, unless you're a very stupid person, you see what happened. | ||
| A lot of the people in this audience, and maybe a couple that don't, but most people understand what happened. | ||
| It was a rigged election, and it's a shame that we had to go through it. | ||
| It was very bad for our country. | ||
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All over the world, they looked at it, and they saw exactly what everyone else saw as rigged. | |
| What does it mean? | ||
| If we're talking about universal mail-in voting, if you look at the FBI and Twitter. | ||
| They call it Twitter files. | ||
| You see, that's what he's talking about. | ||
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Mr. President, back to what you just said there, though, it was not a rigged election. | |
| It was not a stolen election. | ||
| You and your supporters lost more than 60 court cases on the election. | ||
| It's been nearly two and a half years. | ||
| Can you publicly acknowledge that you did lose the 2020 election? | ||
| Let me just go on. | ||
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Stop talking, Gatelin. | |
| They found memes and votes on camera, on government cameras, where they were stuffing ballot boxes. | ||
| So with all of that, I think it's a shame that what happened. | ||
| I think it's a very sad thing for our country. | ||
| No, I think Trump's rounding himself with bad people who misled him on this. | ||
| Because if you look at what's gone to our country, our country has gone to hell. | ||
| Our borders are bad. | ||
| Our military has been bad. | ||
| You look at the taxes, you look at inflation, what's happened to inflation. | ||
| It's just destroying our country. | ||
| We've really become in many ways a third world country, and it's very sad what's happened | ||
| in this administration. | ||
| And it's sad. | ||
| Something that will turn around on day one. | ||
| We were energy independent. | ||
| Now energy is at a level that we've never had to pay before. | ||
| Nobody can afford to continue to pay what's happening with energy. | ||
| But we were energy independent. | ||
| We were getting out of Afghanistan with strength and with dignity. | ||
| And instead, we got out. | ||
| We looked like fools. | ||
| Probably the most embarrassing moment in the history of our country. | ||
| We have a lot of questions about the economy and foreign policy tonight. | ||
| But what you just said there, Republican officials debunked those claims about fraudulent ballots. | ||
| We want to give you a chance tonight, Republican officials in Georgia and every single state. | ||
| There is no, your own election officials, Mr. President. | ||
| So we wanted to take on the issue, but we have a big problem in this country. | ||
| We have elections. | ||
| We have elections that were horrible. | ||
| If you look at what happened in Pennsylvania, Philadelphia, if you look at what happened in Detroit, Michigan, if you look at what happened, he just I know this is frustrating because it's just three years old. | ||
| You're baiting him to talk about something that nobody wants to hear. | ||
| He'd look better if he just stayed on topic. | ||
| I'm voting for him. | ||
| He will take the bait. | ||
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You're baiting him to talk about something that nobody wants to hear. | |
| He'd look better if he just stayed on top of it. | ||
| Your election officials testified to that and have said that Republicans in these states... | ||
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The issue is the structural changes Democrats made that gave them advantages with ground | |
| game, universal mail-in voting, nursing homes ballot harvesting, ballot chasing. | ||
| I want to bring in Scott Gesson from Comcast. | ||
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Trump is just to say it and then get off the topic because it's old. | |
| I don't think him talking about that is going to do any favors. | ||
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No, I think it does. | |
| I mean, we're the only ones watching this. | ||
| I'm not getting any favors. | ||
| No, I think it's a nice guy. | ||
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unidentified
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Hi, President Trump. | |
| Welcome back to New Hampshire. | ||
| I mean, we're the only ones watching this, other than Matt. | ||
| Will you suspend polarizing talk of election fraud during your run for president? | ||
| Will I suspend, excuse me, what? | ||
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Will you suspend polarizing talk of election fraud during your run for president? | |
| Yeah, unless I see election fraud. | ||
| If I see election fraud, I'm not going to. | ||
| They're going to bait him so hard with this, it's what's going to hurt him the most. | ||
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Did he write that question? | |
| Because he had to read it again. | ||
| I hope to do that. | ||
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I hope we're going to have very honest elections. | |
| We should have voter ID. | ||
| We should have one day elections. | ||
| We should have paper ballots. | ||
| He's right about that. | ||
| We should have one day voting, IDs, paper ballots. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| It's going to be very straight up because if it's going to be straight up, we're going to win the election. | ||
| So you will suspend talk to his question about the 2020 election on the campaign trail? | ||
| I guess we're going to just win. | ||
| We're at a point now we're getting so close. | ||
| Let's just win it again and straighten out our country. | ||
| One other question on this. | ||
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She's so mad. | |
| They always want to force them into saying yes or no. | ||
| You once suggested terminating the constitution. | ||
| Do you stand by those comments? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| You were able to do certain things. | ||
| I'm not talking about terminating the Constitution. | ||
| I'm talking about cherishing the Constitution. | ||
| The Constitution says it was supposed to have legal and well-maintained and well-looked-at elections, and we didn't have that. | ||
| I cherish our Constitution, but we have to live up to the Constitution. | ||
| We weren't living up to the Constitution. | ||
| I was just saying, there's no evidence of that election fraud. | ||
| You did once tweet... They're baiting him and he's falling right for it. | ||
| I'm glad you say that. | ||
| But he can't not respond. | ||
| That was a horrible election. | ||
| He can say, that's so old. | ||
| Are you seriously talking about that? | ||
| You sound silly. | ||
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Unless somebody's very stupid and I know you very well, you're not stupid at all. | |
| He could deflect too. | ||
| That has to be a real question. | ||
| They know this hurts them in the polls with moderates. | ||
| We have done honest elections in our country. | ||
| We have open borders. | ||
| There we go. | ||
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He's the pivot to a question. | |
| The borders. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I mean, I liked his Afghanistan. | ||
| We have open borders. | ||
| Look at what's happening on our southern border. | ||
| Millions and millions of people are coming in. | ||
| They're being released from prisons. | ||
| They're being released from mental institutions. | ||
| And we have millions of people pouring into our country. | ||
| And now they're getting rid of Title 42, which I put on, which kept people out that were sick. | ||
| And Mr. President, we have a lot of questions about immigration to get to tonight. | ||
| Obviously, that's a big topic. | ||
| She's going to go back to fraud. | ||
| It's expected to happen tomorrow. | ||
| But I want to talk about the influence you have over your voters. | ||
| It's very clear that you are very influential over them. | ||
| You have a lot of impact. | ||
| I've been to many of your rallies and seen it up close, which raised a lot of questions about the influence that we saw that you had on them on January 6th. | ||
| This is the whole plan for the town hall. | ||
| Do you have any regrets about your actions on January 6th? | ||
| Well, you know, January 6 was a go back to it. | ||
| But January 6 had to do with the fact that hundreds of thousands of people and you don't see the pictures very often. | ||
| A lot of the people here probably were there January 6. | ||
| It was the largest crowd I've ever spoken to. | ||
| That was prior to the walk down to the Capitol building. | ||
| I don't think and I've spoken to Hundreds of thousands of people. | ||
| I've never spoken to a crowd as large as this. | ||
| And that was because they thought the election was rigged. | ||
| And they were there proud. | ||
| They were there with love in their heart. | ||
| That was an unbelievable and it was a beautiful day. | ||
| And what I was asked to do, I wasn't involved in it very much. | ||
| I was asked to come in. | ||
| Would I make a speech? | ||
| I made a speech. | ||
| I said, walk peacefully and patriotically, you know, many different things. | ||
| In fact, I brought a list of things. | ||
| I don't want to bore the audience, but we can go sentence after sentence after sentence of things I said and things I put out. | ||
| Their plan trouble. | ||
| The big problems was that Nancy Pelosi, crazy Nancy, as I affectionately call her, Crazy Nancy Pelosi and the mayor of Washington were in charge, as you know, of security. | ||
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I'm not sure what he's supposed to do, though, because they're going to just keep hitting him, and he can keep pivoting. | |
| Well, I offered them national guard. | ||
| I said, we'll give you soldiers, we'll give you national guard, we'll give you whatever you want. | ||
| And I think this is a good point. | ||
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And they turned me down. | |
| Yeah, I think the State Department has no security. | ||
| She turned me down in writing. | ||
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They turned me down. | |
| But I think Defense Secretary Chris Miller at the time, he said you never gave a formal order to deploy the national guard. | ||
| Trump needs to talk about the economy, immigration. | ||
| Immigration, immigration right now. | ||
| I met the producer in New York saying, no, no, no, back, back, back. | ||
| January 6th election. | ||
| January 6th election. | ||
| Knock him down in the polls. | ||
| It'll hurt Trump bad. | ||
| They haven't said the high word yet. | ||
| Yeah, but he really should have, like, very succinct talking points on these so he can then pivot. | ||
| But they're baiting him. | ||
| They're baiting him. | ||
| They're baiting him. | ||
| If they would have taken 500 soldiers, you wouldn't have had the problem. | ||
| He's smart enough to see that. | ||
| They turned it down. | ||
| And if you look at the Inspector General report, he says they turned it down. | ||
| They made a terrible mistake. | ||
| Well, Chris Miller was your acting defense secretary. | ||
| He says you never gave that order. | ||
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This response isn't a terrible response. | |
| He did not say that. | ||
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I think this is his best line. | |
| He did not say that. | ||
| And if he deflects entirely, people are going to be more suspicious. | ||
| Am I allowed to say that? | ||
| When they went to the Capitol, and they were breaking into the Capitol, smashing windows, injuring police officers, why did it take you three hours to tell them to go home? | ||
| I don't believe it did. | ||
| Oh, let me pull it out. | ||
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I have to pull it out. | |
| That's going to be memed. | ||
| Let me pull it out. | ||
| I have to pull it out. | ||
| So if you look at on January 5th, the day before, I said, please support our Capitol Police and law enforcement. | ||
| They are truly on the side of our country. | ||
| Stay peaceful. | ||
| Stay peaceful. | ||
| This was the day before, and this was in the form of Twitter. | ||
| Now use truth. | ||
| Truth social. | ||
| I think it's far superior. | ||
| OK? | ||
| I hope everybody's on. | ||
| He also sponsors himself. | ||
| I hope everybody's on truth. | ||
| If you look, January 6th is before 2.30. | ||
| I am asking for everyone at the U.S. | ||
| Capitol to remain peaceful. | ||
| This is right after, as it was happening. | ||
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But what happened is, they took it down. | |
| I don't know why. | ||
| I think they took it down because it was so good, they didn't like it. | ||
| And we didn't know until I got it back, because now I have 90 million people waiting for me to go back. | ||
| But I'm on truth and I'm staying on truth. | ||
| Listen, I am asking for everyone at the U.S. | ||
| Capitol to remain peaceful. | ||
| No violation. | ||
| We want no violation. | ||
| We want no violence. | ||
| Remember, we are the party of law and order. | ||
| Respect the law and our great men and women in blue. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| That was a 230. | ||
| That was pretty early. | ||
| Mr. President, I looked at the same timeline that you did. | ||
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104? | |
| 105? | ||
| No, no, but you didn't report that. | ||
| You know why? | ||
| Because it was taken down. | ||
| We did report it. | ||
| I was reporting that date. | ||
| It was taken down or it wasn't reported. | ||
| But when it was clear to you that they were not being peaceful, you saw them rushing the Capitol, breaking windows, they were hitting officers with flagpoles, tasing them, beating them up. | ||
| When it was clear they weren't being peaceful, Why did you wait three hours to tell them to leave the Capitol? | ||
| They listen to you like no one else. | ||
| You know that. | ||
| They do. | ||
| I agree with that. | ||
| It wasn't three hours. | ||
| Nancy Pelosi and the mayor are in charge. | ||
| I assume they were able to do their job. | ||
| They weren't. | ||
| What time did they get in the building? | ||
| It was two o'clock, wasn't it? | ||
| I don't remember the exact time. | ||
| I don't know what they were expecting. | ||
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Was he supposed to wade through the crowd and go up to the front? | |
| Well, no one can even use social media at the Capitol because you couldn't get internet. | ||
| I think he should have. And I think that's dumb. | ||
| He obviously called him. He said, don't violate the law. | ||
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Well, no one can even use social media at the Capitol because you couldn't get | |
| Internet. No, we have to have peace. | ||
| We have to have law and order. | ||
| We have to respect our great people of law and order. | ||
| We love the people of law and order. | ||
| We can't play into the hands of these other people. | ||
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It's just their false narrative that he didn't do something he should have done. | |
| And he's totally right. | ||
| Nancy Pelosi did not request peace and security. | ||
| They took that down, and you know, to this day, it hasn't been put up. | ||
| And the reason is it's so good and so conclusive that all of this nonsense and all of the heads of millions of dollars that have been spent Or just wiped away with this one. | ||
| And they've never put it back up. | ||
| They had another one that they did. | ||
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That's when the barricades were broken through. | |
| When Northeast barricades were breached at 1.57 p.m. | ||
| They breached the Capitol at 2 p.m. | ||
| That's 2.30. | ||
| It means if he made that statement at 2.30, that was right away. | ||
| Actually, a little bit before that. | ||
| Right, so that's my question. | ||
| Because in that three hours, over 140 officers... | ||
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Where's her three hours coming from? | |
| She's not even citing a tweet. | ||
| I think the reason the timeline is so critical here, because going back to your influence, in that three hours, over 140 officers were injured that day. | ||
| And a person named Ashley Babbitt was killed. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| She was killed, and she shouldn't have been killed. | ||
| And that thug that killed her, there was no reason to shoot her. | ||
| They're going to hit him about that. | ||
| Cold, blank range, they shot her. | ||
| And she was a good person. | ||
| She was a patriot. | ||
| There was no reason. | ||
| There was no reason. | ||
| And he went on television to brag about the fact that he killed her. | ||
| The officer was not bragging about the fact that he killed her. | ||
| But one person who was at the Capitol that day, as you know, was your vice president, Mike Pence, who says that you endangered his life on that day. | ||
| I don't think he was in any danger. | ||
| Mr. President, do you feel that you owe him an apology? | ||
| No, because he did something wrong. | ||
| We should have put the votes back to the state legislatures, and I think we would have had a different outcome. | ||
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So we're 16 minutes in, and we're still on January 6th and election day. | |
| He doesn't have the authority to do that. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| What? | ||
| Because it hurts him. | ||
| How long is this scheduled for? | ||
| An hour and a half. | ||
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An hour and a half. | |
| Let's have this one not just now, because it's interesting. | ||
| Let's keep it interesting, right? | ||
| And he is better when he's in direct. | ||
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I like Mike Pence very much. | |
| He's a very fine man. | ||
| He's a very nice man. | ||
| He made a mistake. | ||
| His lawyer said, you cannot move. | ||
| I called him the human conveyor belt. | ||
| I said, even if the votes you made, and I talked to his lawyer, even if the votes | ||
| are absolutely fraudulent, he can't say, yes sir, he can't sit in bed. | ||
| And the Democrats played it, and the RINOs played it. | ||
| And then the election was over. | ||
| They told him he couldn't do it. | ||
| And Mike said to me, I can't do it. | ||
| The lawyers told me you can't do it. | ||
| They can't do it. | ||
| But the lawyers were wrong, because right after the election, they all met the rhinos and the Democrats, and they worked out a plan to make sure that future vice presidents don't do. | ||
| What I said you could do. | ||
| That's not what happened. | ||
| You're referring to the Electoral Count Act. | ||
| I've read that. | ||
| There is no authority. | ||
| Legal experts, including Republican legal experts, say that he does not have that authority. | ||
| Is this a town hall or a Trump versus CNN debate? | ||
| I think it's a debate. | ||
| They didn't change the law. | ||
| They strengthened the law. | ||
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We've got one question so far, right? | |
| Also with this expert from Caitlin, the CNN director. | ||
| My family wanted to do it. | ||
| They convinced him he didn't and it was a horrible thing for our country. | ||
| If you would've sent those votes back to Georgia, Pennsylvania, and other states, Wisconsin, which if you look at Wisconsin, they virtually admitted now that the election was rigged. | ||
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They have not admitted that. | |
| Many of those states. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| My bad. | ||
| I didn't realize. | ||
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I bow to her legal expertise. | |
| My bad. I didn't realize that. | ||
| I bow to her legal expertise. | ||
| You admitted what I said was right. | ||
| They said he didn't have the right to do it. | ||
| And he did have the right to do it. | ||
| You should just get him to Hurst. Isn't that really funny? | ||
| And that's why they changed the law, taking that right away. | ||
| He's already kind of doing it. | ||
| I should note that your campaign paid for a recount in Wisconsin. | ||
| It actually had more votes for President Biden by the end of it, but I want to move on to Wayne Beyer. | ||
| He's a retired attorney from North Carolina. | ||
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I heard the last word, never moving on. | |
| So many illegal votes were cast in Wisconsin, and if you look in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, they had so many illegal votes, they didn't even know what to do with them. | ||
| You're absolutely wrong about that. | ||
| Mr. President, there weren't any fraudulent votes in Wisconsin. | ||
| I do want to get to the audience, though. | ||
| We have questions for you from the audience. | ||
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Well, there weren't any? | |
| Wayne Byers, a retired attorney from North Carolina. | ||
| Bill Barr said there were some, but not that many. | ||
| He's previously served in Republican administrations. | ||
| I just can't stand either of those. | ||
| He volunteered for the Republican Party in the 2022 midterms. | ||
| He voted for you in 2020. | ||
| What's your question for the President, Wayne? | ||
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Thank you for coming, Mr. President. | |
| Thank you, Wayne. | ||
| My question to you is, will you pardon the January 6th rioters who were convicted of federal offenses? | ||
| I am inclined to pardon many of them. | ||
| I can't say for every single one because a couple of them, probably they got out of control. | ||
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That's fair. | |
| Yeah, that's fair. | ||
| I like that. | ||
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This is a trap question, but I think it's a fair answer. | |
| Yeah, so far. | ||
| I don't think it's a bad question, honestly. | ||
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Look at what they did to Seattle and BLM. | |
| Many people were killed. | ||
| the LM to many people were killed. | ||
| But I do think a lot of Republicans want to know. | ||
| I'm not trying to justify anything. | ||
| But you have two standards of justice in this country. | ||
| And what they've done and what they've done And I love that question because what they've done to so many people is nothing, nothing. | ||
| And then what they've done to these people, they've persecuted these people. | ||
| And, yeah, my my answer is I am most likely if I get in, I will most likely I would say it will be a large portion of them. | ||
| You know, they did a very. | ||
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And it'll be very early on. | |
| And they're living in hell right now. | ||
| So when it comes to pardons— They're living in hell. | ||
| And they're policemen, and they're firemen, and they're soldiers, and they're carpenters, and electricians, and they're great people. | ||
| Many of them are just great people. | ||
| Mr. President, one of the people who was convicted was a former policeman, but he was convicted of attacking a police officer, I should note. | ||
| But when you said you are considering pardoning a large portion— What? | ||
| of those charged with crimes on January 6th. | ||
| Does that include the four Proud Boys members who were charged and convicted of seditious conspiracy? | ||
| I don't know. I'd have to look at their case. | ||
| But I will say, in Washington, D.C., you cannot get a fair trial. You cannot. | ||
| Just like in New York City, you can't get a fair trial. | ||
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He is correct. | |
| Speaking of New York, I want to ask you about a significant verdict that was reached yesterday. | ||
| I know this is something you want to weigh in on as well. | ||
| A Manhattan jury found that you sexually abused the writer E. Jean Carroll and defamed her. | ||
| You've denied this. | ||
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The audience is laughing. | |
| It disqualifies you from being president. | ||
| There aren't too many of them because my poll numbers just came out. | ||
| They went up. | ||
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Oh, man. | |
| And the only person in history who had a charge like that. | ||
| And usually in the polls, when I office, you say, I'm sorry, but I'm going to back home. | ||
| I'm back home to my family and everything. | ||
| I'm going to be resigned. | ||
| My poll numbers went up and they went up with the other fake charge, too, because what's | ||
| happening is they're doing this for election interference. | ||
| This woman, I don't know her. | ||
| I never met her. | ||
| I have no idea who she is. | ||
| I had a picture taken years ago with her and her husband. | ||
| Nice guy. | ||
| John Johnson. | ||
| He was a newscaster. | ||
| Very nice man. | ||
| She called him an ape. | ||
| Happens to be after an African American called him an ape. | ||
| The judge wouldn't allow us to put that in her dog or her cat was named Vagina. | ||
| The judge wasn't allowed to put that in. | ||
| All of these things. | ||
| But with her, they can put in anything. | ||
| Access Hollywood put in anything. | ||
| This is a jury of nine people who found you liable of sexual abuse. | ||
| Do you think that that will deter women from voting for you? | ||
| No, I don't think so, because I think the whole thing... Do you think that one juror is listening tonight? | ||
| Just so you understand. | ||
| Ready? | ||
| I never met this woman. | ||
| I never saw this woman. | ||
| It's a little Bill Clinton. | ||
| You did just say you took a picture of her, though. | ||
| I met her in the front door of Bergdorf Goodman, which I rarely go into, other than for a couple of charities. | ||
| Yeah, he should clarify that. | ||
| I met her in the front door. | ||
| She was about 60 years old then. | ||
| This is like 22, 23 years ago. | ||
| I met her in the front door of Bergdorf Goodman. | ||
| I was immediately attracted to her, and she was immediately attracted to me. | ||
| And we had this great chemistry. | ||
| We're walking into a crowded department. | ||
| So we had this great chemistry. | ||
| And a few minutes later, we end up in a a room, a dressing room of Bergdorf Goodman cash register. | ||
| And then she found out there are locks on the door. | ||
| So she said, I found one that was open. | ||
| She found one. | ||
| She learned this at trial. | ||
| She found one that was open. | ||
| What kind of a woman meets somebody and brings them up? | ||
| And within minutes, you're playing hanky panky in a dressing room. | ||
| I don't know if she was married then or not. | ||
| John Johnson, I feel sorry for you, John Johnson. | ||
| Mr. President, can I... I know you're recounting what she said, but... I know you're recounting what she said, but I like it. | ||
| Just so you understand, if I was walking in... Because I was very famous then, and I owned the Plaza Hotel right next door and I owned buildings around it. | ||
| I'm not going into... | ||
| He's right. | ||
| The dressing room of a crowded department store. | ||
| Then I say, if she was being raped, and by the way, they said she wasn't raped. | ||
| Okay, that was her charge. | ||
| They found that you sexually abused her. | ||
| Say what? | ||
| They said he didn't rape her. | ||
| And I didn't do anything else. | ||
| Actually, they did. | ||
| They ruled that wasn't true. | ||
| But Mr. President, can I ask you, given you're recounting your version. | ||
| I don't know who, and I tell you this. | ||
| Are you ready? | ||
| And I spoke to my children, which I never do. | ||
| I have no idea who this woman... | ||
| This is a fake story, made-up story. | ||
| We had a horrible Clinton-appointed judge. | ||
| He was horrible. | ||
| He allowed her to put everything in. | ||
| He allowed us to put nothing in. | ||
| Mr. President, you're re-enacting your version of a venture right now to the audience. | ||
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There's no way Trump walked around New York by himself without people screaming, it's | |
| Donald Trump. | ||
| You did not go to the trial and actually testify. | ||
| He's doing what you intend to do. | ||
| He's doing what you intend to do. | ||
| It wouldn't have made a difference. | ||
| This is a rigged deal. | ||
| My lawyer said, sir, you don't have to do it. | ||
| I actually said, I think I should, it would be respectful. | ||
| They said, sir, don't do it. | ||
| This is a fake story and you don't want to give it credibility. | ||
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That's why I didn't go. | |
| And I swear, and I've never done that, and I swear to... I have no idea who the hell... She's a whack job. | ||
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Mr. President, you did not testify in person. | |
| Donald Trump do this without her. | ||
| You defended the comments that you made on that excess Hollywood tape about being able to grab women how you want. | ||
| Do you stand by those comments? | ||
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I'm not that surprised. | |
| A little. | ||
| I said if you're famous and rich or whatever I said, but I said if you're a star... | ||
| You are. | ||
| And I said, women let you. | ||
| I didn't say you grip. | ||
| I said women let you know you didn't use that word. | ||
| But if you look, women let you. | ||
| Now they said, will you take that back? | ||
| I said, look. | ||
| For a million years, this is the way it's been. | ||
| I want to be honest. | ||
| This is the way it's been. | ||
| I can take it back if you'd like to, but if you're a famous person, if you're a star, and I'm not referring to myself, I'm saying people that are famous, people that are stars, people that are rich, people that are powerful, they tend to do pretty well in a lot of different ways, okay? | ||
| And you would like me to take that back? | ||
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I can't take it back because it happens to be silver. | |
| I said it's been true for one million years, approximately a million years, perhaps a little bit longer than that. | ||
| So you stand by those comments? | ||
| Well, I don't want to lie. | ||
| Mr. President, we have a lot of questions. | ||
| Here's what she wants me to say. | ||
| Mr. President, let's get to the audience questions tonight. | ||
| A rich and famous person has no advantage over us. | ||
| And I say, unfortunately, but... | ||
| That's the way it is. | ||
| He wants me to lie. | ||
| A rich and famous person has no advantage. | ||
| We have a lot of audience questions to get to tonight. | ||
| I want to go back to the audience. | ||
| We've got Danielle Rieger. | ||
| She works as an oral surgery assistant. | ||
| She's a Republican activist from Derry. | ||
| She was a New Hampshire delegate for you in 2020. | ||
| What's your question? | ||
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Hi, thank you so much for coming to New Hampshire to answer our questions. | |
| My question is regarding the economy. | ||
| Over the past two years, we have seen the prices for everything skyrocket. | ||
| From food to gas to utilities and insurance costs, many people's bills are up several hundred dollars a month, including mine. | ||
| If elected president again, what is the first thing you would do to help bring down the cost to make things more affordable? | ||
| Something voters actually care about. | ||
| Drill, baby, drill. | ||
| Woo! | ||
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I agree with that. | |
| Good answer. | ||
| We've got a lot of time. | ||
| We were energy-independent. | ||
| We were soon going to be energy-dominant. | ||
| And nobody had ever done what I did. | ||
| We got oil down to $1.87. | ||
| Actually, it fell lower than that in some cases. | ||
| We had to save the oil companies the price was getting. | ||
| We were doing incredibly. | ||
| We had the greatest economy in the history of our country, probably the greatest economy in the history of the world. | ||
| We're energy independent, soon to be energy dominant. | ||
| We were going to be bigger than Russia and Saudi Arabia put together times two. | ||
| We have more liquid gold under our feet than any other nation, any other nation. | ||
| And these stupid fools ended it. | ||
| And energy went from $1.87 and even lower for gasoline, for a car, | ||
| they went from $1.87 to $5, $6, $7, $8 and even $9. | ||
| And your electricity bills went through the roof, your heating bills went through the roof. | ||
| And that's what started inflation. | ||
| And it hasn't stopped because people are paying now for bacon and for eggs | ||
| and for the two and three times what it was just a little while ago. | ||
| We created the greatest economy in history. | ||
| A big part of that economy was I get got you the biggest tax cuts in the history of our country, bigger than the Reagan cuts, bigger than anything. | ||
| And also, Caitlin, also, as you know, we got the biggest regulation and regulatory cuts. | ||
| We this place was rocking. | ||
| And then we were given a gift from China and China paid a big price. | ||
| And let me tell you something. | ||
| I took in hundreds of billions of dollars in taxes from China. | ||
| But prior to covid coming in and then I rebuilt the economy again a second time. | ||
| But we had prior to covid coming in as from China from Wuhan, which I said it came from Wuhan. | ||
| Everybody said, oh, you're wrong about that. | ||
| You're wrong. | ||
| It came from Wuhan. | ||
| I said it right from day one. | ||
| So we had the greatest economy in the world. | ||
| Here's the story. | ||
| They made energy so high and energy is all. | ||
| Invasive, it is massive as an industry and as a cost. | ||
| It lifted everything. | ||
| If you made donuts, if you made, no matter what you did. | ||
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She just sounds like she's whining. | |
| We had inflation, the likes of which I guess we haven't had since 52 years, but I think more than that. | ||
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Cause she doesn't know how to do anything. | |
| Well, and that's why CNN put it there. | ||
| They use moderator as a loose term. | ||
| This country was rocking and rolling. | ||
| And by the way, we had the most secure border in the history of America. | ||
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She's doing it conveniently for her. | |
| Millions of jobs lost, people not getting their social security payments, people believe it would put the U.S. | ||
| economy into a recession. | ||
| On that topic, I want to bring in Marta Cervella, a student here at St. | ||
| Anselm. | ||
| She is an undeclared voter who did not vote in 2020. | ||
| Marta, what's your question? | ||
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Hi, Mr. President. | |
| So my question is, what do you think about the United States' current debt situation and how can we move forward? | ||
| Such an important question. | ||
| So we're at $33 trillion, a number that nobody ever thought possible. | ||
| When we had our economy rocking and rolling just prior to COVID coming in, like literally, we were making a fortune and oil. | ||
| We're going to make so much money from oil. | ||
| We're going to start paying off debt. | ||
| But then with COVID coming in, we had to do other things. | ||
| We had to keep this country alive because it was so serious. | ||
| But we have to get the country back. | ||
| We have to lower energy prices. | ||
| We have to lower interest rates. | ||
| Interest rates are through the roof. | ||
| Energy has to come down. | ||
| It all has to come down. | ||
| And we have to start paying off debt. | ||
| But When we have a debt limit, and they use that very seriously. | ||
| I mean, they came in, Schumer came in with Nancy Pelosi and they were using it. | ||
| We'll violate it. | ||
| We'll do whatever. | ||
| They talked a whole lot different than they do right now. | ||
| I say to the Republicans out there, congressmen, senators, if they don't give you massive cuts You're going to have to do a default. | ||
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Do it. | |
| And I don't believe they're going to do a default, because I think the Democrats will absolutely cave, because you don't want to have that happen. | ||
| But it's better than what we're doing right now, because we're spending money like drunken sailors. | ||
| So just to be clear, Mr. President, you think the U.S. | ||
| should default if the White House does not agree? | ||
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It's like they come in from being out, and then they go out and party. | |
| Because we have to save this country. | ||
| Our country is dying. | ||
| Our country is being destroyed by stupid people. | ||
| By very stupid people. | ||
| You said that using the debt ceiling as a negotiating wedge just could not happen. | ||
| You said that when you were in the Oval Office. | ||
| That's why I was president. | ||
| So why is it different now that you're out of office? | ||
| Because now I'm not president. | ||
| He's taking it back. | ||
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Trump's taking it back. | |
| His polling is going up. | ||
| I can feel it. | ||
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He's warming up. | |
| The US defaulting would be massively consequential for everyone in this room, for all Americans. | ||
| You don't know. | ||
| It's psychological. | ||
| You don't know. | ||
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Get out of here, Caitlin. | |
| It's psychological more than anything else. | ||
| And it could be very bad. | ||
| It could be maybe nothing. | ||
| Maybe you have a bad week or a bad day. | ||
| But look, you have to cut your costs. | ||
| We're spending $7 trillion on Much of it on nonsense. | ||
| Seven trillion dollars on nonsense. | ||
| I actually said get all of that money that was wasted and frankly the Senate should have never approved it. | ||
| Get all that money that was wasted and if they don't get rid of that you'll have to default. | ||
| Mr. President, we've got another voter here tonight. | ||
| And by the way, you're going to default eventually anyway, but it's going to be much messier. | ||
| I don't think you'll have to default. | ||
| I think if the Republicans hold strong and they say, we want five, let's say we want $5 trillion off. | ||
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I really think the Democrats have no choice, but to do it. | |
| And if I win, they're going to be doing the same thing to me in two years. | ||
| I guarantee you that. | ||
| He's a student at St. | ||
| Anselm. | ||
| He's a member of College Republicans. | ||
| He's an undeclared voter right now. | ||
| He supported you in 2020. | ||
| Bobby, what's your question for President Trump? | ||
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Hi, thank you for coming. | |
| This is a bit of a pivot, but with gun violence and mass shootings in the news cycle recently, I'm worried that state governments and the federal government are going to act to repress gun rights. | ||
| Under your administration, you instructed the Department of Justice and the ATF to ban bump stocks. | ||
| If elected president again, how would you act not only to defend our Second Amendment rights, but to restore rights that have been taken from us by you, such as, by example, recently the ATF's ruling on the pistol stabilizing braces? | ||
| Yeah, as you know, the bump stocks are actually a very unimportant thing. | ||
| And NRA, I went with them and they said, It doesn't mean anything. | ||
| Actually, all they do is teach you how to shoot very inaccurately. | ||
| So we did that. | ||
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That's technically true. | |
| There's been nobody that's protected the Second Amendment, as you know, like I have. | ||
| I protected it through thick and thin. | ||
| Not easy to do. | ||
| But we have a very big mental health problem in this country. | ||
| And again, it's not the gun that pulls the trigger. | ||
| It's the person that pulls the trigger. | ||
| And we have to protect our Second Amendment. | ||
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We have to protect our Second Amendment. | |
| Mr. President, you dealt with a lot of mass shootings when you were in office. | ||
| This year, there have already been more than 200 mass shootings in 2023. | ||
| If you are re-elected, are there any new gun restrictions that you would sign into law? | ||
| I would do numerous things. | ||
| For instance, schools. | ||
| We would harden, very much harden. | ||
| And I also am a very believer. | ||
| I believe in teachers. | ||
| I love teachers. | ||
| I think they're incredible. | ||
| And they love the children, not quite like the parents, but they love the children, in many cases, almost as much. | ||
| Many of these teachers are soldiers, ex-soldiers, ex-policemen. | ||
| They're people that really understand weapons. | ||
| And you don't need 5 percent of the teachers would be more than you could ever have if you're going to hire security guards. | ||
| But in addition to that, have security guards. | ||
| You have to harden your entrances. | ||
| You have to make schools safe. | ||
| And you can make other places safe. | ||
| But it is a big Mental health problem in this country more than anything else. | ||
| And remember, we have 700 million guns, 700 million. | ||
| Many people, if they don't have a gun, they're not going to be very safe. | ||
| I mean, if they don't have a gun, it gives them security. | ||
| Now, you need them for entertainment. | ||
| You need them for hunting. | ||
| You need them for a lot of different things. | ||
| But there are people that if they didn't have the privilege of having a gun in some form, They many of them would not be alive today. | ||
| You know, there is a certain country that had a very strict policy on guns. | ||
| Very, very strict. | ||
| Which country? | ||
| Brazil. | ||
| OK, Brazil. | ||
| A very strict and the former president of Brazil's and the killing was incredible. | ||
| They were walking into people's homes and killing people. | ||
| They had no protection. | ||
| Should go out and buy guns. | ||
| People went out and bought guns and it went way down. | ||
| The numbers went way down because they had security. | ||
| If you look at Chicago, Chicago has a single toughest gun policies in the nation. | ||
| They are so tough you can't breathe. | ||
| New York, too, and other places also. | ||
| All of those places are the worst and most dangerous places. | ||
| So that's not the answer. | ||
| No new restrictions that you would sign if re-elected, Mr. President. | ||
| I want you to meet Julie Miles, a registered nurse from Merrimack. | ||
| She's a Republican who voted for you in 2020. | ||
| Julie, what's your question for the president? | ||
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Thank you, Mr. President. | |
| I appreciate you answering this question this evening. | ||
| How do you plan to appeal to women voters in New Hampshire who are concerned about the Dobbs decision and how states may change their laws? | ||
| It's such a great question and it was such a great victory and people are starting to understand it now. | ||
| You know that they wanted to bring it back to the states, but that was probably the least important part of that victory. | ||
| Getting rid of Roe v. Wade was an incredible thing for pro-life because it gave pro-life something to negotiate with. | ||
| Pro-life had absolutely nothing being stuck in Roe v. Wade to negotiate with. | ||
| And now what's happening, and I see it all over, deals are being made, deals are going to be made. | ||
| And, look, everybody that was president wanted to get rid and tried to get rid of Roe v. Wade. | ||
| You mean Republicans? | ||
| Republicans. | ||
| For 50 years, this has been going on. | ||
| Actually, a couple of Democrats, too. | ||
| But for 50 years, this has been going on. | ||
| I was able to do it and I was very honored to do it. | ||
| But by doing it, things are happening that are very, very positive. | ||
| And you have to I happen to believe in the exceptions, the life of the mother. | ||
| Rape incest like Ronald Reagan believed in the exceptions. | ||
| But I happen to believe that. | ||
| I think it I think it's frankly important to do that. | ||
| But a lot of people are, you know, against that relatively small, relatively small number. | ||
| But the way the way I look, I think it's very important to say this. | ||
| I consider the other side to be radical because the other side under Roe v. Wade and other things, the other side, they're radical because they will Remember the debate with Hillary Clinton, they said, rip the baby out of the womb at the end of the ninth month. | ||
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They will kill the baby in the ninth month. | |
| If you look at that crazy governor of Virginia from the former governor, where he said, no, the baby will be born and then we'll decide, essentially, whether or not to execute the baby. | ||
| But Mr. President, can we talk about what you would do? | ||
| It's not the pro-life people that are radical. | ||
| I was going to say, he needs to bring that up, and then he did. | ||
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Nailed it. | |
| Tim's texting. | ||
| Tim's texting Trump. | ||
| to your desk, would you sign a federal abortion ban into law? | ||
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Tim's texting. | |
| What I'll do is negotiate so that people are happy. | ||
| Tim's texting Trump. | ||
| But the fact that we were able, I was able, I'm so proud of it, | ||
| we put three great justices on the Supreme Court. | ||
| We have almost 300 federal judges on the Supreme Court. | ||
| So you, just to be clear, just to be clear, Mr. President, you will sign a federal abortion ban into law. | ||
| I said this, I said this, I want to do what's right. | ||
| And we're looking, and we want to do what's right for everybody. | ||
| But now for the first time, the people that are pro-life have negotiating. | ||
| capability because you didn't have it before. They could kill the baby in the | ||
| ninth month or after the baby was born. Now they won't be able to do that. | ||
| But I think this is a really important question for you to answer because this is something all every | ||
| Republican including those who are running against you for the nomination | ||
| are being asked about is would you sign a federal abortion ban into law? | ||
| And many of them are going to give you the same answers. I am first of all I am | ||
| honored to have done what I did. | ||
| And a lot of people said, they said in 150 years he's now the most consequential president because he saved so many lives. | ||
| And I'm honored to have done it. | ||
| And because of what I've done, we now have a great negotiating ability. | ||
| That's what I do in life, I negotiate. | ||
| We have a great negotiating ability, and I think we're going to be able to get something done. | ||
| But what do you mean negotiating ability? | ||
| Because the question that Republicans have, and some of your allies on Capitol Hill say that they want to introduce legislation when it comes to banning abortion. | ||
| If they send it to your desk, would you sign it? | ||
| Some people are at six weeks. | ||
| Some people are at three weeks. | ||
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There we go. | |
| Good answer. | ||
| President Trump is going to make a determination what he thinks is great for the country and what's fair for the country. | ||
| But the fact that I was able to terminate Roe v. Wade after 50 years of trying, they worked for 50 years. | ||
| I've never seen anything like it. | ||
| They worked. | ||
| And I was even I was so honored to have done it. | ||
| We are in a very good negotiating position right now, only because of what I was able to do. | ||
| And remember that he's not going Again, you talk about radicalism. | ||
| People that will kill a baby in the ninth month, or the eighth month, or the seventh month, or after the baby is born, they're the radicals, not the pro-electors. | ||
| I just want to give you one more chance, though, because you did not answer whether or not you've signed a federal abortion ban or how many weeks into pregnancy you believe Yeah, but I've given you the answer probably four times already. | ||
| I'm looking at a solution that's going to work. | ||
| Very complex issue for the country. | ||
| You have people on both sides of an issue. | ||
| But we are now in a very strong position, pro-life people are in a strong position to make a deal that's going to be good and going to be satisfactory for them. | ||
| If you weren't able to get rid of, you wouldn't even be having a discussion, if you weren't able to get rid of Roe v. Wade, which put pro-life in a dead position, a horrible position. | ||
| They could kill the baby at any time they wanted to, but we did something that nobody thought was doable. | ||
| And other Republican presidents, and others by the way, they wanted to get it out. | ||
| They also wanted to bring it back to the states, but bringing it back to the states is a less important issue than the issue that we just talked about. | ||
| But that's why it's the question about a federal abortion ban. | ||
| You did not say yes or no to that. | ||
| It depends what the deal is. | ||
| Lindsey Graham's a man, he's got an idea, and a lot of other people have an idea. | ||
| And I look at all the... It depends on the deal. | ||
| That's your answer. | ||
| She needs to move on. | ||
| She's terrible. | ||
| President Trump, we've got more questions to come for you tonight. | ||
| We'll be right back in just a moment. | ||
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Oh look at that, we get a break! | |
| I'm impressed so far. | ||
| The beginning was a little slow, but I'm impressed with where we got so far. | ||
| That was 40 minutes with no commercials, and now they're doing a commercial. | ||
| I guess they only got one commercial break or something. | ||
| And he must know how long this is. | ||
| That's one of the reasons he probably kept filibustering. | ||
| With the abortion thing, I was like, he's got to hit at how these states are enacting restrictionless Outright abortion at nine months, viability, all of that stuff. | ||
| Because most Americans find that completely unreasonable. | ||
| And then I think Trump's got some really great stuff going on where he's like, well, I'm not president! | ||
| You know, like, that was really good. | ||
| It was really good. | ||
| It was good that he had the timestamps and she would not accept that she was wrong. | ||
| I gotta say, what is she doing? | ||
| This is, it's crazy to me. | ||
| When we had Lance from the Surf's On last week, and we do this a lot, a lot of people get mad, they're like, why wasn't, you know, we had Destiny on, why wasn't Tim drilling Destiny and going crazy? | ||
| Because we're not debating! | ||
| It's a debate show! | ||
| Half, half of the time, like sometimes, they'll say something that is wrong, and I'll be like, no, no, no, that's incorrect, you can't say that. | ||
| Sometimes they'll be like, I believe X because of this reason, and I'll go, okay. | ||
| Like, you're allowed to have a moral position and an opinion. | ||
| I can't be like, your opinion is wrong! | ||
| I'm just like, oh, okay. | ||
| And then what they try to do is they say like, oh, Tim got owned or whatever. | ||
| No, this is the problem with the modern left, default liberals or leftists. | ||
| Caitlin Collins thinks no matter what Trump says, she has to try and get him. | ||
| Instead of saying, Trump, what's your thoughts on this? | ||
| Thank you for telling us that next question. | ||
| What are your thoughts on this? | ||
| It's like, Nope, you're wrong. | ||
| Nope, you're wrong, wrong. | ||
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That's where she's coming from. | |
| She wants to get him. | ||
| And like, it's she's made it her personal mission. | ||
| Yeah, to get him on every answer. | ||
| And also to get that soundbite that they can put into every commercial for the next two years. And for her own prowess, right? Like | ||
| she is looking at this Washington Examiner article, there's speculation that they'll offer | ||
| her Chris Cuomo spot, right? So she is trying to launch her career off of getting Trump to say the | ||
| infamous soundbite. She wants that to be her moment. Like this is, I respect that, right? She's | ||
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in broadcast journalism. She wants her Megyn Kelly moment that Megyn Kelly didn't even get. | |
| Yeah. So. | ||
| I don't know what this guy Licked Guy sees in Cailin Collins. | ||
| I can understand having her be a reporter, but giving her a show, then having her host a presidential town hall, it's just not there. | ||
| Like Anderson Cooper I get. | ||
| Cailin Collins I don't get. | ||
| I, you know, Megan Kelly is good. | ||
| She, she did a great job with Trump. | ||
| There are a lot of people I think could do way better than her. | ||
| I think there are. | ||
| I think CNN thinks about the way its voters want to see Trump portrayed. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And that makes sense. | ||
| It's their channel. | ||
| But I think conservative viewers tend to want a moderator who is going to keep the conversation going and who isn't there to just fact check. | ||
| Whereas MSNBC CNN tends to staff people who are there to fact check everyone involved in debates. | ||
| And it becomes real. | ||
| I had a professor when I was at SMU who did a study on this who said, you know, You find that left-leaning mainstream media, they spend a lot of time saying, well, actually that's not correct. | ||
| Whereas when you're on Fox or a different network, it tends to be more just about making sure that you're hearing from enough people that are actually sort of holding the true position of a moderator. | ||
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Well, I think they also want to have a woman on there so that it can be this combative thing that they can say, oh, you know, look at how dismissive he is of the moderator. | |
| You know, she's asking all these really good questions and he won't answer them. | ||
| And then he says mean things to her. | ||
| And it holds up his finger. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it holds up his finger. | ||
| Like, how would, how dare you do that to a woman? | ||
| You don't hold up your finger. | ||
| You know, I just got, I just got an idea as I'm watching these CNN commercials. | ||
| We should run commercials on CNN. | ||
| You should, it'd be really funny. | ||
| Tim Cast IRL commercials. | ||
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They'd be pretty cheap right now, I think. | |
| Yeah, I think, I think they're like eight grand for 30 seconds. | ||
| You know how with like NPR, if they're doing a story on something, they have to occasionally say like, just in full transparency, you know, Apple is a sponsor of NPR or whatever. | ||
| CNN would have to be like, when they report on you, just to be clear, Tim Pool is a sponsor. | ||
| Welcome back to CNN's Republican Presidential Town Hall with former President Donald Trump. | ||
| President Trump, I'd like you to meet Jennifer Simmons. | ||
| She is a stay-at-home mom and former town selectman from Windham. | ||
| She's Republican and she voted for you in 2020. | ||
| Jennifer, what's your question tonight? | ||
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Good evening, Mr. President. | |
| Title 42 is expected to expire tomorrow. | ||
| Our southern border and now our northern border are experiencing record migration. | ||
| We learned on May 2nd that the Biden administration plans on deploying 1,500 troops to the southern border. | ||
| Do you agree with deploying troops to the border? | ||
| And how will a Trump administration slow down the rate of migrants coming across all our borders? | ||
| A very fair question, especially since tomorrow is going to be a day of infamy. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| You're going to have tens of thousands of people pouring into our country. | ||
| Even the judge, you know, the judge overruled them when they wanted to terminate it early. | ||
| And he said, you know that you better extend this thing. | ||
| The judge in Texas said, I hope you're going to extend this. | ||
| But this is my policy that they're letting terminate because they lost in court. | ||
| They wanted to go earlier. | ||
| You're going to have millions of people pouring into our country right now at a level that nobody's ever seen before. | ||
| These people are sick. | ||
| Anybody that wants this to happen to our country, they're destroying our country. | ||
| And this should not be allowed to happen. | ||
| How they're not going to do a version of Title 42 or my Title 42, which was tough. | ||
| If people are sick and have infectious diseases and lots of other problems, We don't want them being into our country. | ||
| We have enough problems right now. | ||
| We have problems like we've never had in the history of our country. | ||
| But Mr. President, our country is being destroyed. | ||
| The reason it's ending is because the health policy, the COVID era pandemic emergency is coming to an end. | ||
| That's what Title 42 was. | ||
| You put it in place because of COVID. | ||
| When it comes to big questions about what your immigration policy would look like if you are reelected, Some of your Republican rivals have criticized you for not fulfilling the promises that you made on the campaign trail, like finishing the border wall. | ||
| So how did voters know that you would get those done if you're re-elected? | ||
| I did finish the wall. | ||
| I built a wall. | ||
| I built hundreds of miles of wall, and I finished it. | ||
| And then I said, we have to build some more because there are areas like water going through a dam. | ||
| There are some areas where a lot of people are coming. | ||
| You close up one and they come into another. | ||
| And we started another hundred miles of wall. | ||
| In fact, I said to my people, if we start this and don't finish it. | ||
| And then we had a rigged election. | ||
| I'm sorry to say it. | ||
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He shouldn't bring it up. | |
| The election stuff hurts this moment. | ||
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If she were really moderating, she would have gone back to her question. | |
| He shouldn't bring it up. | ||
| The election stuff hurts this moment. | ||
| Talk about immigration. | ||
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I think it is funny, though, that she has to keep saying it was not right. | |
| There's never been anything like this happening to our country. | ||
| You built about 52 miles of new wall when you were in office, Mr. President. | ||
| It wasn't the complete wall. | ||
| One other thing that with immigration... No, but I have to respond to that. | ||
| With your immigration, it was only about 52 miles of new wall. | ||
| Okay, can I respond? | ||
| This is what she does. | ||
| I built hundreds of miles. | ||
| Some of the wall was up there and it would be laying on the ground, rusted, rotten steel, rusted, rotten wood, a little. | ||
| And what the radical left crazy Democrats did, if there's a piece of wood laying down, they considered that a wall. | ||
| I built 30 foot walls that go down seven feet into the ground. | ||
| If there was a little piece of wood sitting in the ground, they said, oh, he's not building a wall. | ||
| We already had a wall. | ||
| Because this is the game. | ||
| They're a party of disinformation. | ||
| It's not a game, Mr. President. | ||
| It's about 52 miles of new wall. | ||
| Are you kidding me? | ||
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Also, Caitlyn, this woman asked about the troops at the border. | |
| Why are you not going back to that? | ||
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I didn't answer the question and she's not making me answer the question either. | |
| That was up and rotting in the ground for 30 years. | ||
| Some of it was steel that you couldn't even see. | ||
| Mr. President, it was only about 52 miles of new wall. | ||
| But moving on, another immigration policy you had was the zero-tolerance immigration policy that separated families at the border. | ||
| If you are re-elected, are you ruling out institutions like that? | ||
| Well, when you have that policy, people don't come. | ||
| If a family hears that they're going to be separated, they love their family. | ||
| They don't come. | ||
| So I know it sounds harsh, but if you remember, remember they said I was building prisons for children? | ||
| It turned out that it was Obama that was building them. | ||
| Can you re-implement that if you're re-elected? | ||
| Is that what you're saying? | ||
| We have to save our country, alright? | ||
| So it sounds like that's a yes. | ||
| When you say to a family that if you come, we're going to break you up, they don't come. | ||
| And we can't afford to have any more. | ||
| Look at New York City. | ||
| Look what's happening. | ||
| They're living in Central Park in New York City. | ||
| The city is being swamped. | ||
| Los Angeles is being swamped. | ||
| Iowa is being swamped. | ||
| Our whole country is being destroyed. | ||
| Millions of people are coming into our country. | ||
| And you know what the number is going to be, in my opinion, by the end of the year? | ||
| Not the 4 million that you hear and the 3 million. | ||
| I think it's going to be 15 million people. | ||
| And in these people, they have no idea where they come from. | ||
| They come from 129 different countries so far. | ||
| 120, not just the four that we talked about. | ||
| Just to put a button on that, it sounds like what you're saying is that you're not ruling out re-implementing that immigration policy. | ||
| I want to get to another voter, Kaitlin Placido is a student here at St. | ||
| Anselm College. | ||
| She's a Republican, this will be the first election that she has voted in. | ||
| What's your question for the President, Kaitlin? | ||
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Hello President Trump, thank you so much for coming. | |
| The current administration has made it clear that we should continue to provide military equipment to Ukraine so that they can defend themselves. | ||
| Do you support this decision and how would you deal with the increasing threat posed by Vladimir Putin? | ||
| First of all, thank you very much. | ||
| It's really nice. | ||
| And it's an important question. | ||
| So important because we're giving away so much equipment. | ||
| We don't have ammunition for ourselves right now. | ||
| We don't have ammunition for ourselves. | ||
| We're giving away so much. | ||
| But here's the thing. | ||
| I have to say it to start off. | ||
| No longer matters. | ||
| If I were president, this would have never happened. | ||
| And even the Democrats admit that Putin knew it would have never happened. | ||
| And his pipeline would have never happened. | ||
| A lot of things would have never happened. | ||
| But This has never happened. | ||
| And all those dead people, both Russian and Ukrainian, they wouldn't be dead today. | ||
| And all those cities that are blown up and disintegrated right to the ground, that wouldn't have happened. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Now, here's the problem. | ||
| We've given so far $171 billion. | ||
| They've given meaning they meaning European Union, which is approximately the same size altogether as our economy. | ||
| They've given about 20. | ||
| So we're at 170, let's say, and there are 20. | ||
| You don't have to know too much about history to realize or geography to realize that. | ||
| They're a little bit more affected than we are, okay? | ||
| So, they've got to put up a lot more money, because they're taking advantage of us like every other country did. | ||
| That's why I ended NAFTA and replaced it with the USMCA in Mexico. | ||
| But on this issue, Mr. President, I should know, I don't know any Democrats who have said they don't believe Putin would have been invaded if you were president, but her question is, would you continue to give Ukraine money and weapons if you're elected? | ||
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What's the answer? | |
| So she remembers this girl's question, but not the other ones. | ||
| President Zelensky because as you know he backed me up with the with the phony impeachment impeachment hoax number one when he said The president didn't do anything wrong. | ||
| So I happen to like. | ||
| So I happen to like. | ||
| Yeah, that's right. | ||
| And it was I was totally exonerated, by the way, just a waste of time and money. | ||
| You were impeached. | ||
| Impeached does not mean convicted. | ||
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Caitlin Collins doesn't need to know the details. | |
| I was impeached by a crazy woman named Nancy Pelosi. | ||
| Weapons and funding. | ||
| If you I would sit down. | ||
| Let me just put it this way. | ||
| If I'm president, I will have that war settled in one day. | ||
| 24 hours. | ||
| I agree. | ||
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How? | |
| How would you do that? | ||
| They both have weaknesses and they both have strengths. | ||
| And within 24 hours, that war will be settled. | ||
| It'll be over. | ||
| It'll be absolutely over. | ||
| Do you want Ukraine to win this war? | ||
| I don't think in terms of winning and losing. | ||
| I think in terms of getting it settled so we stop killing all these people and break it. | ||
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Can I just follow up on that? | |
| You said you don't think in terms of winning and losing. | ||
| Mr. President, can I just follow up on that because that's a really important statement that you just made there. | ||
| Can you say if you want Ukraine or Russia to win this war? | ||
| I want everybody to stop dying. | ||
| Yes! | ||
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Dying. | |
| Russians and dying. | ||
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He's not making himself look good here. | |
| And I'll have that done. | ||
| I'll have that done in 24 hours. | ||
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But what team? | |
| What team are you on? | ||
| We need the power of the presidency to do it. | ||
| But you won't say that you want Ukraine to win? | ||
| Oh, come on. | ||
| You know what I'll say? | ||
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I'll say this. | |
| Is she going to say win? | ||
| I want Europe to put up more money. | ||
| Because they're in for $20 billion. | ||
| We're in for $170 billion. | ||
| But that's not an answer about who should win the war. | ||
| And they should equalize. | ||
| They have plenty of money. | ||
| They should equalize. | ||
| I got with NATO. | ||
| I sat down, I got them to put up hundreds of billions of dollars under Obama and Bush and all of these other presidents. | ||
| That's why they're able to help them fight the war because of the money I got. | ||
| But I want Europe to put up more money because they're laughing at us. | ||
| They think we're a bunch of jerks. | ||
| We're spending $170 billion for faraway land and they're right next door to that land. | ||
| And they're in for 20. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| When it comes to what's happening there, when you were in office, you said that you respected President Putin. | ||
| Do you still respect him today? | ||
| He made a tremendous mistake. | ||
| He's a smart guy, you know. | ||
| I remember I said he was smart, she was smart. | ||
| He said President Xi of China. | ||
| Right? | ||
| He's smart. | ||
| Okay, 1.5 billion people. | ||
| He's the ruler of 1.5 billion people. | ||
| I said, yeah, he's a smart guy. | ||
| How dare he say he's smart? | ||
| Of course he's smart. | ||
| They want you to say he's a stupid person. | ||
| Okay, he's not a stupid person. | ||
| He's very smart. | ||
| He's very cunning. | ||
| And Putin made a bad mistake, in my opinion. | ||
| What was his mistake? | ||
| His mistake was going in. | ||
| He would have never gone in if I was president. | ||
| I agree. | ||
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Do you believe that he is a war criminal? | |
| Do you believe that Putin is a war criminal? | ||
| He's responsible for the deaths of thousands of Ukrainians. | ||
| Well, I think this, I think it's something that should not be discussed now. | ||
| It should be discussed later, because right now we have to get a war. | ||
| If you say he's a war criminal, it's going to be a lot tougher to make a deal to get this stuff. | ||
| Because if he's going to be a war criminal where people are going to go and grab him and execute him, he's going to fight a lot harder than he's fighting, you know, under the other circumstance. | ||
| That's something to be discussed at a later date. | ||
| Isn't it important to call it what it is? | ||
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No. | |
| Shut up, Caitlin. | ||
| Why is Putin on a town hall debate? | ||
| And I'm not talking about the money either. | ||
| I'm talking about all the lives that have been... | ||
| The number of people being killed in the war is far greater than you hear. | ||
| Can't we talk about domestic issues? | ||
| When they blow up the city and those buildings come pouring down and they say two people | ||
| were injured. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| Hundreds and thousands of people are being killed and we have to get that war settled. | ||
| We have more with former President Trump right after this. | ||
| We're going to take a quick break and then we'll be back with questions from voters right after that. | ||
| I think the Ukraine thing is a domestic issue because we were $170 billion in. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So I like the fact that they went there. | ||
| I think he handled that really well. | ||
| Grand slam. | ||
| I think she was looking to get him to say something stupid and he stayed on point. | ||
| I think he hit it out of the park. | ||
| Grand slam. | ||
| Bases are loaded. | ||
| Knocked it out. | ||
| When she's like, do you want Ukraine to win? | ||
| Will you say it? | ||
| And he's like, I want everyone to stop dying. | ||
| He nailed it. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| You can't get them. | ||
| They can't sound bite that because he's right. | ||
| And she looked horrible because she kept asking the same question after he answered it very succinctly. | ||
| She only does that when she has a sound bite that she's trying to get. | ||
| Do you think Putin's a war criminal? | ||
| And then Trump nailed it. | ||
| Look, if we call him a war criminal, how are we going to negotiate an end to the war? | ||
| He's going to say no. | ||
| We're going to wait on that. | ||
| In fact, the fact that she even brings it up on national television with as many viewers as watching is bad for trying to end the war. | ||
| But you know what? | ||
| They don't want the war to end. | ||
| I bet a guy in her ear said, say Putin's a war criminal. | ||
| Because we want it on TV. | ||
| We want Putin to think that if the war ends, he dies. | ||
| That way he never stops. | ||
| And Putin and Trump had a strong rapport when he was in office. | ||
| They want to try and make Trump an impossible choice if you want to end the war too. | ||
| They want Putin to be against him. | ||
| Let me, let me, uh, Mitchie Cool says, did y'all hear Collins call him Mr. President? | ||
| She hasn't this whole time. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| She also wants to hurt, hurt him with conservatives because if he's on Team Ukraine, that hurts him with lots of conservatives. | ||
| Before it comes back, I want to just address the election thing. | ||
| So, as many people are pointing out, everybody wants to say that the election was rigged. | ||
| If you're talking about the Democrats changed rules so they could get universal mail-in voting, they could go to nursing homes, they could ballot chase, ballot harvest, and all of these things that were deemed legal by the courts, I agree. | ||
| I think it's shady. | ||
| I think we should have one day of voting. | ||
| This is why we should have reforms. | ||
| We should have a day of voting. | ||
| We should have voter ID. | ||
| We should have paper ballots. | ||
| I agree with all of that. | ||
| But when so if you're saying that's what you mean by rigged, I get it. | ||
| And you had that article in Time magazine. | ||
| But what we're what I'm trying to make sure we're not talking about is the idea that like China was sending fake ballots, that the machines were printing fake things or anything like that. | ||
| I think the Democrats outplayed the Republicans heavily exploiting COVID. | ||
| And that's what got Biden these votes. | ||
| And I've seen people do it. | ||
| When Trump starts drifting into that, which people don't understand, and he's like, ah, it's all rigged, ah, it's all... He's talking about the past. | ||
| He's not talking about what you can expect from him. | ||
| He's not telling the people what he's going to give you if you vote for him. | ||
| And I think that's what they want to get out of him. | ||
| They want to push him in that direction because it hurts him in the polls. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They spent the first 25 minutes really just talking about his character. | ||
| It wasn't anything other... anything that really affects the people other than his character. | ||
| And they spent the first 25 minutes on that. | ||
| They just ran a commercial for the town hall that's airing right now. | ||
| While we were watching it. | ||
| Just in case you were wondering what's going on. | ||
| I thought it was back. | ||
| I was like, oh, is it back? | ||
| No, it's a commercial for an hour ago. | ||
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It might be just online only, though. | |
| I bet on TV they're not doing it. | ||
| No, it's on TV. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I just want to say, man, When Donald Trump came out and said, we are going to start ballot harvesting and ballot chasing, that gave me hope. | ||
| Because it's like, ah, he understands what they did. | ||
| They wrote an article explaining what they did. | ||
| People went to nursing homes, and this is all legal. | ||
| This is legally done. | ||
| And they said, fill out your ballot, do this, give it to me, sign me up as your caretaker, I'll drop it off for you. | ||
| And there was this guy, I can't remember which state it was, it might have been Pennsylvania, where he was like, it's legal! | ||
| You're allowed to do it. | ||
| You are allowed to go to nursing homes. | ||
| Republicans just did not do it. | ||
| Democrats out ground game them. | ||
| I think they're about to come back on here. | ||
| Well, I don't know. | ||
| I mean, I think that's been a true of the Democratic Party for some time. | ||
| They are good at working on the ground to get what they want. | ||
| I think what bothers me about this whole thing is that the mainstream media opinion writers already have submitted their pieces talking about how great Caitlyn is doing tonight. | ||
| They will be out by midnight. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| We're back. | ||
| We're back. | ||
| Welcome back to CNN's Republican Presidential Town Hall with former President Trump. | ||
| President Trump, we have a lot more voters questions I should note in here in New Hampshire to get to, but I also want to talk about some of the other investigations that you're facing. | ||
| We talked about others at the top, but one of those is the Special Counsel's investigation into classified documents that were found at Mar-a-Lago. | ||
| Why did you take those documents with you when you left the White House? | ||
| I had every right to under the Presidential Records Act. | ||
| You have the Presidential Records Act. | ||
| I was there, and I took what I took, and it gets declassified. | ||
| Biden, on the other hand, he has 1,850 boxes. | ||
| He had boxes sent to Chinatown, Chinatown, where they don't speak even English in that Chinatown we're talking about. | ||
| I got to stop you right there. | ||
| No, you don't. | ||
| Shut up. | ||
| Just so you understand, I had every right to do it. | ||
| I didn't make a secret of it. | ||
| You know, the boxes were stationed outside of the White House. | ||
| People were taking pictures of the GSA and the various people. | ||
| I've got to stop you right there, though, because the Presidential Records Act, which is not well known to a lot of people, I read it. | ||
| It does not say that you can take documents with you. | ||
| It says actually that they are the property of the federal government. | ||
| It says you talk, you negotiate, you make a deal. | ||
| It's not criminal, by the way. | ||
| It does not say that you can negotiate. | ||
| The Presidential Records Act is not criminal. | ||
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And, uh, just so you know... It's not that you can negotiate to take the documents with you. | |
| Can I tell you? | ||
| Just so you understand, the Presidential Records Act is not criminal. | ||
| I took the documents. | ||
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I'm allowed to. | |
| You know who else took them? | ||
| Obama took them. | ||
| Nixon took them. | ||
| Obama did not take documents. | ||
| Yes, he did. | ||
| Obama did take documents. | ||
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Hillary took the furniture. | |
| The National Archives says that President Obama did not take documents. | ||
| Even Mike Pence had some documents and he's a very honorable guy. | ||
| You referenced Pence, you referenced Biden. | ||
| But you know who took them more than anybody is Joe Biden. | ||
| He has 1,800 boxes. | ||
| And nobody even knows where they are. | ||
| Obama did take records. | ||
| They were brought somewhere and the media argued it was totally fine and legal the way | ||
| he did it. | ||
| I think it's important, Mr. President, to actually set the records straight here. | ||
| They're in Chicago, aren't they? | ||
| Something like that, yeah. | ||
| They took documents, including Vice President Pence. | ||
| When they realized they had documents, they turned them back over. | ||
| The difference is that you waited to turn yours over and it was a year and a half effort | ||
| that included a subpoena with those documents. | ||
| One question about what happened when you had those documents. | ||
| It included a raid on my house. | ||
| That's what it included. | ||
| They didn't raid Biden's house. | ||
| You'd gotten a subpoena and they had not been turned over yet. | ||
| They didn't raid Biden's house. | ||
| You know what happened? | ||
| They put him in the house. | ||
| That's the one with the Corvette, where the documents were laying all over the floor. | ||
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That was funny. | |
| You can see them in the garage. | ||
| I have secret service. | ||
| And they're phenomenal. | ||
| I have secret service. | ||
| He didn't have secret service. | ||
| The other thing, the vice president cannot declassify. | ||
| He didn't have the right to declassify. | ||
| He has documents from when he was a senator. | ||
| And even Democrat senators say, I can't believe it. | ||
| No, I went by the Presidential Records Act. | ||
| That's not what the Presidential Records Act says. | ||
| And we were negotiating with NARA. | ||
| That's not what it says, Mr. President. | ||
| And NARA has red flags. | ||
| Mr. President. | ||
| It's called the Constitution of the United States and the Bill of Rights because they | ||
| consider them dangerous documents. | ||
| That's not what it says, and I should note that there is a special counsel investigating | ||
| your document situation, also President Biden's document situation. | ||
| When it comes to your documents, did you ever show those classified documents to anyone? | ||
| Not really. | ||
| I would have the right to. | ||
| By the way, they were declassified after... What do you mean, not really? | ||
| Not that I can think of. | ||
| Let me just tell you, I have the absolute right to do whatever I want with them. | ||
| I have the right. | ||
| I was negotiating with NARA. | ||
| Do you know what NARA is? | ||
| The National Archives. | ||
| Extremely, extremely left group of people. | ||
| Extremely left. | ||
| And I was negotiating with them. | ||
| All of a sudden they raided my house. | ||
| They didn't raid the house of Joe Biden. | ||
| They didn't raid Obama. | ||
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Why are they standing? | |
| Joe Biden didn't ignore a subpoena to get those documents back like you did. | ||
| And so that's the question. | ||
| Joe Biden took $1,850. | ||
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Is she going to punch him? | |
| No. | ||
| Is Caitlyn going to punch him? | ||
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It's body language, I'm sure. | |
| Wait, wait, how tall is she? | ||
| Shorter than he is, for sure. | ||
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Are you ready? | |
| Can I talk? | ||
| Yeah, what's the answer? | ||
| Can I do you mind? | ||
| I would like for you to answer the question. | ||
| Okay, it's very simple to answer. | ||
| That's why I asked it. | ||
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It's very simple. | |
| You're a nasty person, I'll tell you that. | ||
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Sounds good. | |
| Say she's a nasty person? | ||
| Very simple. | ||
| Why you held on to the documents? | ||
| I was negotiating and we were talking to NARA. | ||
| That's Washington. | ||
| To bring whatever they want. | ||
| They can have whatever they want. | ||
| When we left Washington, we had the boxes lined up on the sidewalk outside for everybody. | ||
| People are taking pictures of them. | ||
| Everybody knew we were taking those boxes. | ||
| And the GSA, Government Service, the GSA was the one taking them. | ||
| They brought them down to Mar-a-Lago. | ||
| We were negotiating with NARA. | ||
| All of a sudden, they raid our house. | ||
| When Biden had his documents, he won't give back the 1,850 boxes. | ||
| And you're going to find some real gems in there. | ||
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But it was Biden who alerted them that he had the documents. | |
| The National Archives reached out to you to get your documents back. | ||
| Why is she arguing with him? | ||
| Why are we even talking about this? | ||
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I don't understand why this is even a topic. | |
| Also, she keeps cutting him off and saying, we've got to take questions from the audience. | ||
| She's not here to moderate or move this along. | ||
| She's here to make her own point. | ||
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They gave her a couple things and said, make sure you get him to say something incriminating. | |
| I gave her a couple things and said, make sure you get him to say something incriminating. | ||
| And that's what the presidential record act says, because Richard Nixon, surprisingly, had problems. | ||
| And he had a lot of problems dealing with NARA. | ||
| And they ended up passing legislation called the Presidential Records Act just for this kind of a thing. | ||
| We were dealing with them. | ||
| We were talking to them. | ||
| We would have done it, but all of a sudden they raided the house. | ||
| Now, why hasn't the FBI raided Biden? | ||
| But I just explained to you why. | ||
| It's because they alerted the government that they had those documents and had them come and get the documents. | ||
| My question for you, though, when it comes to documents, do you still have any classified charges in your possession? | ||
| Are you ready? | ||
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Do you? | |
| No, no, I don't have anything. | ||
| I have no classified documents. | ||
| And by the way, they become automatically declassified when I took them. | ||
| But why? | ||
| No, you have to declassify them. | ||
| Let me ask you a question. | ||
| No, you don't. | ||
| Why is it that Biden had nine boxes in China? | ||
| He's lying all the time. | ||
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Tim, Tim, she knows what she's talking about. | |
| There's no process by which the president, he doesn't have to declassify anything. | ||
| She is a legal scholar. | ||
| Why don't they put this guy Jackson Major in journalism at the University of Alabama? | ||
| Why don't they put him in charge of that? | ||
| I need to stop you right there because there's no evidence of what you just said there. | ||
| What you're referring to is an office that he had after leaving the vice presidency. | ||
| He had a temporary office. | ||
| But I want to ask you about another investigation. | ||
| You've got a new wrong gif for the internet. | ||
| I do know the subject. | ||
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He had one at the University of Pennsylvania, but he also had nine boxes of Chinatown. | |
| Which is the one that's happening in Georgia, where they are investigating there your efforts | ||
| to overturn the election results in the state of Georgia. | ||
| Let me finish my question. | ||
| At the center of that is that call that you had with the Secretary of State, Brad Raffensperger. | ||
| Given the fact that there are indictments expected to come in that case this summer, is that a call you would make again today? | ||
| Yeah, I called questioning the election. | ||
| I thought it was a rigged election. | ||
| I thought I'd had a lot of problems. | ||
| I had every... I guess he's Secretary of State. | ||
| I called. | ||
| Listen to this. | ||
| There are like seven lawyers on the call, many of them from there. | ||
| We're having a call. | ||
| We're having a normal call. | ||
| Nobody said, oh, gee, he shouldn't have said that. | ||
| If this call was bad, I questioned the election. | ||
| If this call was bad... You asked him to find you clothes. | ||
| I didn't ask him to find anything. | ||
| Let me just say... We've heard the audio tape, Mr. President. | ||
| There's an audio of you asking him to... Factual but not truthful. | ||
| You owe me votes because the election was rigged. | ||
| That election was rigged. | ||
| And if this call was bad, why didn't him and his lawyers hang up? | ||
| How dare you say that? | ||
| This was a... | ||
| Well, they were clearly concerned enough they recorded the call, and I should note that of course— This was a call that was made to question the results of election. | ||
| And we have—and when we can't make a call to question election results, then this country ought to just forget about it. | ||
| You weren't just questioning the election results. | ||
| You were asking me to find you votes. | ||
| I disagree with Trump. | ||
| But you have to be able to call and have a rigged agreement. | ||
| You shouldn't have been answering the question at all. | ||
| That was probably the best way. | ||
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Good. | |
| Thank you, Mr. Trump. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
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I'm 26. | |
| I'm a veteran. | ||
| in Georgia. | ||
| Jordan Sullivan is an unclared voter from Hollis. | ||
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He shouldn't have been answering the question at all. | |
| He voted for you in 2020. | ||
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That was probably the best way. | |
| Good. | ||
| Jordan, what is your question for President Trump tonight? | ||
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Thank you, Mr. Trump. | |
| Thank you very much. | ||
| I'm 26. | ||
| I'm a veteran. | ||
| I help manage a private aviation company. | ||
| You want a job? | ||
| I'd love one, yeah. | ||
| I'm looking for somebody very good. | ||
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I'm not for mandates or government interference in private business, but I've seen Republicans going after us, like DeSantis, after Disney. | |
| Right. | ||
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What would you do as president to protect us from government interference? | |
| Well, I'm the one that really wants to protect you. | ||
| All of these fake investigations of me are about election interference. | ||
| They think because I'm leading Biden by 11 points, seven points, nine points, I'm leading to sanctimonious by a lot, by 40 points or 45 points. | ||
| I think you ought to just relax and take it easy and think about the future, because right now his future is not looking so good. | ||
| I will tell you this. | ||
| We are really putting it to Biden, but he's putting it to himself because the economy stinks, inflation is horrible, and the border is a disaster. | ||
| And by the way, the way he got out of Afghanistan was the single most embarrassing moment in the history of our country. | ||
| While we are not a fan of that, this is a fundamental question for you. | ||
| You are running in the 2024 race. | ||
| If you are the Republican nominee and you are in that 2024 race, will you commit tonight | ||
| to accepting the results of the 2024 election? | ||
| Yeah, if I think it's an honest election, absolutely. | ||
| I would. | ||
| Will you be able to answer the election regardless of the outcome? | ||
| I answered again. | ||
| If I think it's an honest election, I would be honored to. | ||
| And right now we are so far ahead of both Democrat and Republican. | ||
| If I don't win, this country is going to be in big trouble. | ||
| It's so sad to see what's happening. | ||
| But no commitment there on accepting the results, regardless of the outcome. | ||
| If it's an honest election, correct. | ||
| OK, so not committing to accepting the 2020 election results, but acknowledging what happened in 2020. | ||
| President Trump, I want to thank you for coming here tonight. | ||
| This is an important conversation with voters to hear and to have. | ||
| Thank you to our audience and to our host, St. | ||
| Anselm College. | ||
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CNN's coverage continues with Anderson Cooper and Jake Tapper. | |
| It certainly does not continue with us. | ||
| I don't want to hear what those people have to say. | ||
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Jake Tapper! | |
| He's a cool guy. | ||
| Jake Tapper's so awesome. | ||
| The reason why she keeps going back to the election fraud stuff is because it polls very poorly with independent voters. | ||
| That's where they need to strike. | ||
| Donald Trump succeeded in 2016 by switching 9 million moderate-leaning Democrats to the Republican Party. | ||
| Every time they get Trump to say, it's rigged, it's rigged, it's rigged, he is losing votes. | ||
| And that's why they're doing it. | ||
| That's why in the beginning of the show, they went after him over and over and over again. | ||
| And it is a large reason why I'm telling people, and I beg people, please stop. | ||
| Like, whatever it is you think, The Democrats had a tremendous ground game, okay? | ||
| They were able to find the votes, and you've got to counter it, Scott Pressler style. | ||
| And you need to back off from it if you want to win the moderates over in this. | ||
| Diehard Trump supporters are falling into this trap, and CNN just showed you exactly how they do it. | ||
| They know that Trump's biggest fans and biggest supporters are going to reject any notion That the election was anything. | ||
| They know that if they come out and say it wasn't fraud, Trump supporters are going to come out and say, yes, it was. | ||
| And they're going to get him to say it over and over and over again to make as many soundbites as possible. | ||
| And I would not be surprised if the next time they have a show, they're going to be like, how many times did Trump say rigged? | ||
| And they're going to play it on repeat and they're going to put it in the face of as many independents as possible. | ||
| Instead of showing Trump saying things like, we need people to stop dying, which was a grand slam. | ||
| That's why I'm like, guys, Talk about the future. | ||
| Stop talking about the past. | ||
| Yeah, right. | ||
| Do you think that when it comes time for the Republican primary, the other Republicans will continue to bring this up because they know it hurts Trump? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I wouldn't be surprised if Ron DeSantis comes out and says, you know, Democrats, they got universal mail-in voting. | ||
| They were changing voting laws in their states. | ||
| In some instances, like Pennsylvania, the Republicans were involved that things like voter in the park. | ||
| And there are videos where state reps and judges are like, you are allowed to ballot harvest in this state. | ||
| I think there's only a handful of states that actually explicitly ban it. | ||
| It's illegal in many forms in many states, usually with some restrictions, where like, you can only carry three at a time. | ||
| And then you'll see videos like James O'Keefe had. | ||
| Bill Barr said there was some fraud. | ||
| She said there was none. | ||
| She's wrong. | ||
| Bill Barr said there was some, but not nearly enough. | ||
| There's always a little bit. | ||
| There were a bunch of federal prosecutions over voter fraud, sure. | ||
| But I don't think it was in the tens of millions are significant enough to have as big of an impact as people want. | ||
| I think what people are thinking of when they say rigged is that Democrats changed the rules Anyway, I don't even want to get wrapped up in this. | ||
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They changed the rules, but sometimes they didn't abide by the rules at all. | |
| Like in Pennsylvania, they did things that were actually illegal for them to do, and they didn't have the authority to do it. | ||
| Changing the laws on mail-in voting. | ||
| So here's the issue. | ||
| The lower court said, you can't change this law without going to a newspaper and getting a constitutional amendment. | ||
| And then everyone was like, wow, the lower courts are agreeing with the Republicans. | ||
| The problem is the Republicans actually worked with the Democrats to pass that law. | ||
| So when it went to the Supreme Court, they were like, no, this was done by both parties. | ||
| And now one party is coming out after the fact. | ||
| So I think it's all partisan. | ||
| I think when you look at what's going on in New York, you can see it's pure tribalism. | ||
| But I think you can just see very obviously why CNN kept asking that question. | ||
| They want the soundbite because it hurts Republicans. | ||
| And when I hear him say that over and over again, and he won't let it go, and they know they can get him on it, I'm like, I see DeSantis going up. | ||
| And I like Trump's answer on the war. | ||
| I think it's important. | ||
| But let's do this. | ||
| We're going to jump to this story. | ||
| Maybe the last story before we go to Super Chats. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, we made the news. | ||
| In Trump's trial, a secret fight over a juror's right-wing news source. | ||
| I love this! | ||
| Because this proves, to all of you, it's a cult. | ||
| Check it out. | ||
| They say, E. Jean Carroll's lawyers tried to exclude the man who listened to podcasts by the provocateur Tim Pool. | ||
| He remained on the jury that found the ex-president liable. | ||
| Provocateur is a great word. | ||
| Provocateur. | ||
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I like that. | |
| What do I do? | ||
| They call Milo Yiannopoulos a provocateur. | ||
| Well, he goes out, he gives speeches. | ||
| Do I ever leave this building? | ||
| Do I make phone calls to anybody? | ||
| Do I contact members of Congress? | ||
| Or do I just sit here and have conversations with people? | ||
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The beanie is very provocative. | |
| It is. | ||
| I have to say. | ||
| And evocative. | ||
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Both of those. | |
| Both evocatives. | ||
| Take a look at this. | ||
| The juror was a 31-year-old man who said he lived in the Bronx for all his life. | ||
| During jury selection, he said that he tended to avoid news but listened to independent podcasts every now and then, and listed one example. | ||
| The original transcript inaccurately captured the podcast's title as Temple. | ||
| But lawyers for Ms. | ||
| Carroll, the writer who filed the lawsuit accusing Mr. Trump of rape, later learned through news reports that the anonymous juror identified only as Juror 77 had actually said he listens to Tim Pool. | ||
| Here's the best part. | ||
| You guys ready for this? | ||
| Mr. Pool's YouTube channel includes dozens of recordings that push hard-right views. | ||
| His podcast, which has been criticized as a vector for conspiracy theories, is called The Culture War. | ||
| Well, hold on there a minute! | ||
| The Culture War is a new show that hasn't been accused of anything because it's never been in the news. | ||
| It's only been around for about two months. | ||
| Eleven episodes. | ||
| That's fake news. | ||
| And I wonder if that's actually defamatory in that you can argue things about TimCast's IRL, the show y'all are watching now, because it's been around for years and has been in the news several times. | ||
| But The Culture War hasn't been. | ||
| No. | ||
| Not at all. | ||
| The Culture War podcast hasn't been covered by anyone, and I'm surprised they even found it. | ||
| You know what they did? They searched for Tim Pool Podcast and found the Culture War Podcast with Tim Pool, | ||
| which is a new show which has very little viewership relative to this show or even TimCast News. | ||
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It's a vector. A vector. A vector. | |
| That's why they said dozens of recordings. | ||
| Like, IRL has a bit more than dozens. | ||
| Yeah, I think IRL has like 2,000 or something like that. | ||
| And then The Culture War has like 25. | ||
| And the morning videos that you do. | ||
| I mean, you put out a dozen morning videos. | ||
| Five videos a day. | ||
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Right. | |
| On TimCast News. | ||
| And there's like 3,000 videos. | ||
| Also, they don't even mention that you worked for Vice. | ||
| You're such a lefty on so many other issues. | ||
| They're like, this far right guy. | ||
| Yeah, you would imagine New York Times would do a little bit more research and have figured that out. | ||
| I know you wouldn't. | ||
| Check this out. | ||
| It says, during the confidential questioning, Juror 77 said that Mr. Poole, quote, is like middle, adding that the podcaster gets different political figures or just celebrities like that on the left, on the right. | ||
| Juror 77 also described the podcast as balanced. | ||
| Do you know why? | ||
| He watched this show, probably. | ||
| Because we had, like, a run-of-the-mill celebrity on the show one time. | ||
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Right. | |
| This is a guy who apparently said that he's only seen a few episodes, and it may be because we've had musicians, we've had people like Ethan Supley. | ||
| Supley on the show. | ||
| An actor. | ||
| And we just talked about, you know, moderate political issues. | ||
| We have had people who are totally apolitical who struggle to even talk. | ||
| We've had scientists, doctors. | ||
| But they don't know anything about it. | ||
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This is the first show that I've ever watched of yours. | |
| Yeah, the one you're on. | ||
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Yeah, the one I'm on. | |
| There you go. | ||
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Welcome. | |
| He said that he'd been doing doubles at work and listened to Mr. Poole's show three or four times in the past six months. | ||
| Said he never had heard of Miss Carol and was confident he could be fair to both sides. | ||
| Here's a guy who actually said Trump is liable for sexual abuse, not rape, after almost 30 years. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| And they're like, that's a fan of Tim Pool who should be removed from the jury. | ||
| Here's what they said, look at this. | ||
| A lawyer for Ms. | ||
| Carroll said that the juror appeared to get his news from a single, really virulently extremist podcast. | ||
| It's amazing, but I can sit here being like, Trump is wrong about the fraud narrative, and I'm pro-choice, and they're like, he's an extremist. | ||
| But you see what they're trying to do. | ||
| Two things. | ||
| They want to create a bifurcation between me and regular people because they don't want regular people to hear honest commentary from honest people. | ||
| And, well, I mean, I'll leave it at that. | ||
| That's basically it. | ||
| To defame and to push people away. | ||
| So those are the two things, I guess. | ||
| So he wasn't dismissed? | ||
| No. | ||
| And then he actually sided with them. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And what's the story here, then? | ||
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I don't know. | |
| I'm really kind of curious why this is actually a story. | ||
| Why is it that they ran that story about the Allen, Texas shooter who posted four clips of me, and then in the same week, they're like, a right-wing extremist news source. | ||
| There's no news here. | ||
| The guy said he listened to the show three or four times, and that was the end of it. | ||
| They didn't dismiss him, and then he sided with them. | ||
| Why is the New York Times, Politico, the Daily Beast, whoever else, they're all writing this up? | ||
| Because they're afraid of you. | ||
| I mean, I think it's because you take their audience and also you actually do have a lot of moderate views, unlike both mainstream Fox News and all the mainstream left-wing publications. | ||
| Like, that's just how it is. | ||
| That's gotta be it. | ||
| Because there's no other reason to say, oh, did you know there was a juror that wasn't dismissed but he admitted that he watched this show four times? | ||
| Four times! | ||
| People who weren't aware of you or IRL already have heard your name probably because of the Alan Texas stuff. | ||
| So New York Times is jumping on this bandwagon that I think they often look to, I mean, because it's not the first time you've trended. | ||
| I think people want this show to be something more extreme so they can shun it. | ||
| They want you to have, every time they Google your name, they want far-right extremist, terrible person to come up. | ||
| But it doesn't work? | ||
| It doesn't work because you do this show every night and prove them wrong. | ||
| They definitely turn Bandcamp off to you. | ||
| Well, Bandcamp spreading defamation or something like that, but... There's a cult. | ||
| They're extremists. | ||
| And the people who watch this show probably already agree with me when we say these people are in a cult. | ||
| Because you can have a leftist, like Lance from the Serfs on this show, overtly say he's pro-abortion at any time, for any period, for any reason. | ||
| Matt Binder, a leftist, say the exact same thing. | ||
| Sitting next to Seamus Coghlan, a Catholic conservative pro-lifer who wants abortion banned outright, and me, saying, well, I think there should be some restrictions, but maybe only after viability, which is the middle, and the person on the left says, you're all far right. | ||
| Like, if my opinion, and, you know, is the average opinion based on polling, Then what are they talking about? | ||
| They're just lying. | ||
| That's what they do. | ||
| They lie. | ||
| And I'm partly grateful because this makes it easy to prove they're lying. | ||
| That's it. | ||
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Is there anybody else that has as many diverse people on their podcast as you do? | |
| I mean, I mean, there's very few. | ||
| Well, I think I think Patrick David has way more people across. | ||
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Because what they really want to do is silence everybody, not just you, but silence everybody that you would ever have on and make sure they can put those people into a box. | |
| Right. | ||
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And because, you know, CNN's never going to have those people on. | |
| Fox News won't have them on either. | ||
| Fox News won't have people on who they're afraid of are associated with people, even if that person has never done it themselves. | ||
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Two layers deep. | |
| They'll be like, yeah, you went to this one party with this guy, you know, like whatever. | ||
| Politico wrote up an even bigger story saying there was inferred bias or whatever. | ||
| Tim Pool, a far-right pro-Trump commentator who has aligned himself with figures like Steve Bannon. | ||
| What does that even mean, aligned himself with people like Steve Bannon? | ||
| It means you talked to him one time and you didn't scream in his face. | ||
| On the show, the members-only show, we argued about the fraud narrative and I told him to his face he was wrong. | ||
| And I said Trump was anti-elected. | ||
| People voted against him and we went in this long thing and he was like, well, that's an interesting point. | ||
| And I think he's been on the show twice? | ||
| What is this? | ||
| You're not allowed to platform it at all. | ||
| You're not allowed to talk to people. | ||
| No, no talking to other people. | ||
| It's the association game. | ||
| Associating with someone that most people dislike. | ||
| So make those associations and we can then create a box around these people who make commentary with some sense. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
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When I think of you, the first thing I think of is not, he's pro-Trump. | |
| Most people don't. | ||
| I think it's fair if somebody says that they think of me as pro-Trump, because all I did was make memes about Trump. | ||
| But for them to call you the pro-Trump extremist is just hilarious. | ||
| It doesn't fit at all. | ||
| They're debunking themselves, especially when we have Luke Rudkowski on this show for seven months at a time, and people say he has Trump derangement syndrome. | ||
| Or Ian Crosland, who says some of the craziest leftist stuff half the time, and then rolls 20s the other half. | ||
| You know, look, for legal reasons, I'll say this is besmirching my good name, and I am concerned about reputational damage, which we'll be pursuing. | ||
| But part of me is like, okay, dude, make me more famous. | ||
| My name's all over the press now, and people are wondering what this is all about. | ||
| I love the New York Times writing about the culture war. | ||
| Great, we need the press. | ||
| It's because you weren't going to get in there if it wasn't bad press, which all press is good press. | ||
| I mean, I don't even know if it's even bad press. | ||
| We'll see. | ||
| We'll see. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| And they always tell you, like, you get into a car accident, don't say you're fine because you don't actually know what injuries you might have. | ||
| And there's so many stories where someone gets like T-boned and they're like, well, I feel OK. | ||
| I think we're good. | ||
| And then a year later, like actually in that accident, you chip the bone and now you need like a $10,000 surgery or $100,000 surgery. | ||
| So it's like, you know, we'll see. | ||
| We'll see. | ||
| Maybe, you know. | ||
| But we sponsor ourselves. | ||
| We're building our own companies. | ||
| We are member-supported. | ||
| I'm not worried about companies dropping us in terms of sponsorships. | ||
| I'm not worried about it at all. | ||
| And now with Twitter, Rumble, competing with YouTube, I'm not worried about YouTube either. | ||
| There's nothing they can do. | ||
| They've lost. | ||
| The things they've said, like when Keith Olbermann's tweeting at me, and like this Alan Texas thing comes up, I'm like, literally don't care what these people think at all. | ||
| There is no concern I have. | ||
| None. | ||
| We have built infrastructure. | ||
| We are building infrastructure. | ||
| Rumble is building infrastructure. | ||
| Elon Musk is building infrastructure. | ||
| What do we have to be worried about at this point? | ||
| Say whatever stupid garbage fine, we'll sue you if it's defamatory, and you'll lose. | ||
| And it has no impact. | ||
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Did Keith come out of retirement to attack you? | |
| He retired? | ||
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He's retired like four times from Twitter. | |
| He retires a lot, I guess. | ||
| Let's do one more story. | ||
| Let's, uh, where are we at? | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| This one's big, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Bud Light's hangover from hell. | ||
| Sales figures for America's once-favorite beer reveal how every region in the U.S. | ||
| has turned its back since the Dylan Mulvaney tie-up. | ||
| Check this out. | ||
| In every region, Bud Light sales are plunging. | ||
| So in the East-North-Central, is that what they called it? | ||
| East-North-Central, which is like Illinois, Indiana, Ohio, and Wisconsin, Michigan, 23.5%. | ||
| In the East-South-Central, it's 25%. | ||
| In West-North-Central, 25%. | ||
| In the mountain region, it's negative 29%. | ||
| Everywhere! | ||
| in West, North, Central, 25. | ||
| In the mountain region, it's negative 29%. | ||
| Everywhere! | ||
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Wow. | |
| I saw this story earlier today that gay bars in Chicago aren't buying Bud Light | ||
| They're boycotting it. | ||
| Because they're also boycotting because the brand didn't stand behind Dylan Mulvaney enough. | ||
| Like, they can't win. | ||
| They have really shot themselves in both feet. | ||
| They're getting hit from both sides on that. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| Oh my gosh. | ||
| This is great. | ||
| We're winning. | ||
| So, you know, for those that didn't hear what we were talking about in the previous segment, just about how the New York Times and Politico are smearing my good name and lying about this show, I don't know how much it matters. | ||
| They have no influence anymore. | ||
| I go out and people smile and wave, shake my hand, they can take pictures with me. | ||
| People who watch the show, and these are urban centers, this is what I think they're really afraid of. | ||
| They were in New York City, and an urban liberal New York City guy says, oh yeah, listen to Tim Pool's podcast, and they're like, oh crap. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| We're losing urban liberals. | ||
| That's a problem. | ||
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Well, and they'll be losing liberals in New York City way faster if they don't get it turned around soon, because New York City is just absolute garbage. | |
| Yeah, well, this is what I'm saying, everybody. | ||
| With this story about Bud Light losing again and again and again, it's been over a month. | ||
| It was April 1st that Dylan Mulvaney did this TikTok, and now, May 10th, Anheuser-Busch is still spiraling because of this. | ||
| So keep it up. | ||
| I think we're winning. | ||
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I think that the Bud Light decision, right next to firing Tucker, is probably one of the dumbest business decisions anybody has ever made. | |
| Well, they tried claiming it was a third-party company that did it. | ||
| And they're like, oh, we don't know it was a third-party company that did it. | ||
| That's not even better. | ||
| But apparently, there was one writer for the Washington Post who said, That Bud Light is a cash cow that's never going to grow. | ||
| It is basically generic. | ||
| At this point, it is so ubiquitous, it's just synonymous with beer. | ||
| Take the money, accept it. | ||
| But they bring in some young VP of marketing who's like, I'm gonna grow this brand. | ||
| Tries to find a new demographic and then nukes it into oblivion. | ||
| She wanted to shed the Freddie image, she said on one podcast. | ||
| It's interesting the demographic that they chose, and I'm just talking about the age. | ||
| 15 year olds? | ||
| I've heard Ian talk about that a lot. | ||
| It's just like, if you look at the actual age group, what exactly were they after there? | ||
| Have they said anything about that? | ||
| Teens, you know? | ||
| They're not going to. | ||
| I mean, that's the thing. | ||
| It reminds me of, didn't cigarette companies get in trouble at one point because they were advertising, like, on children's toys or whatever? | ||
| Well, no, they had the camel. | ||
| Joe Camel was a cartoon. | ||
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Oh, Joe Camel, and it was too nice, yeah. | |
| And then they had to modify their branding. | ||
| I think with Bud Light, they They didn't think about the audience in the consequences. | ||
| They only thought, we can capture young drinkers. | ||
| Maybe they aren't drinking, maybe when they go to drink, they will start drinking Bud Light. | ||
| They didn't think about the fact that it's completely inappropriate for a lot of reasons. | ||
| And they only put themselves and their own ideology first. | ||
| I thought it was funny this Washington Post writer said, the confusing thing about the campaign was Dylan Mulvaney's faux Audrey Hepburn act, like, caters to no one. | ||
| It's like, Dylan Mulvaney's audience are all under 21, so they're not buying beer, and then the rest of the audience is over 50 and they're drinking wine. | ||
| So what was Bud Light thinking? | ||
| And then Bud Light, of course, was like, no, no, no, it was a third party. | ||
| So now here's the best part. | ||
| Yeah, you mentioned, I think it's up to six gay bars? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Five or six in Chicago are boycotting Anheuser-Busch outright because Anheuser-Busch won't give them political influence. | ||
| Now think about that. | ||
| The right just says, leave us alone. | ||
| The left says, give us what we want or else. | ||
| Stop pandering to these people. | ||
| They're going to make your life miserable. | ||
| But you know what? | ||
| We're winning. | ||
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So... Now not to play devil's advocate, but how is the rest of Anheuser-Busch doing? | |
| Because they have like... | ||
| There's so many other products that like... Overall, globally, Anheuser-Busch, I think they said it was like around 1% decline in general sales. | ||
| But we're talking about American cultural influence. | ||
| If Anheuser-Busch says we were abandoning U.S. | ||
| markets with Bud Light because it's a failed brand, we won. | ||
| I think we won already at this point. | ||
| No Clydesdale is going to save it. | ||
| That was such a tone-deaf response, too. | ||
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It'll be a donkey in a dress. | |
| Wasn't that what set Rogan off? | ||
| Was the Clydesdale, the pandering? | ||
| Yeah, but here's a story we have from Tim Cass News. | ||
| Bud Light Boycott is spreading to other Anheuser-Busch brands. | ||
| Company may be in a no-win situation as gay bars are ditching Anheuser-Busch beer. | ||
| See, what's happened now is because These gay bars are upset with Anheuser-Busch as a brand. | ||
| It's not even about Bud Light to them, it's about all of the brands they do sell. | ||
| And conservatives too, right? | ||
| They were all like... I saw all these graphics of like, don't drink Modelo, here are the other ones, just so you know. | ||
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Because it's like BIV or something like that. | |
| InBev or something. | ||
| InBev. | ||
| And it's a bummer because Modelo is actually pretty good. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| I think Serge is mourning that loss. | ||
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Yep. | |
| I am sad about that. | ||
| But it is interesting that it was a boycott that was effective partially because people were already aware of what else was under the umbrella, right? | ||
| Like if you boycotted, I don't know, a shoe company, right? | ||
| If they own four other shoe companies, you're not really hurting them. | ||
| Whereas people were able to identify, oh, these are all Bud Lightwear. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| So we know that Miller and Coors are way up, like 20%, right? | ||
| St. | ||
| Louis Business Journal says Budweiser is down 11.4. | ||
| That's not Bud Light, that's Budweiser. | ||
| Michelob Ultra, down 4.4. | ||
| Bush Light, 1.8. | ||
| And Natty Light, 5.2. | ||
| So it is hitting their other brands. | ||
| So hey, good job everybody. | ||
| This warrants a round of drinks. | ||
| Does anybody have any, oh wait. | ||
| It was funny when Lance from the service here, he brought a Bud Light Tallboy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he waited till the after show. | ||
| I was like, bro, why don't you crack that thing open on the show? | ||
| Like, it was funny. | ||
| See, he's not willing to commit to the bet. | ||
| He's sort of in the boycott. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He didn't want everybody to see that he had a bud light. | ||
| He didn't want anyone to think that he was effeminate or anything like that. | ||
| How long do you think the boycott will last? | ||
| I think they're done. | ||
| I think, I'm seeing people online, there was one story in Newsweek where a couple got attacked and they say it was because they were buying Bud Light and the person like, they got into a fight over it or something like that. | ||
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They were attacked at a liquor store? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Because somebody started making fun of them over buying Bud Light and then they started yelling at each other. | ||
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Alcohol was involved. | |
| Bud Light, brand is everything, and Bud Light is synonymous with being a homosexual. | ||
| I am not saying that to be mean or funny or derisive. | ||
| I am saying that as a fact marketing statement that if you because of Dylan Mulvaney's notoriety and the backlash it is now perceivably associating you with being a homosexual. | ||
| There was a video where a cast members in the Book of Mormon crack beers in like Times Square or something and say, Hey Dylan! | ||
| Like, thank you so much! | ||
| Bud Light! | ||
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Woo! | |
| And they drink it, and I'm like, that was the last thing Bud Light wanted to happen. | ||
| Because they're hammering the nail into the coffin that if you drink Bud Light, you are likely an effeminate homosexual man. | ||
| You're homosexual, but you're not enough of an ally. | ||
| That's why the gay buyers won't buy your beer. | ||
| But I'm not sure that matters. | ||
| I mean, look, if you're some 38-year-old dude, 40-year-old dude at a ballgame, do you want to be the one person? | ||
| There was a viral video from Fenway Park where nobody would buy Bud Light. | ||
| Cuz do you wanna walk up to a chick and be like, hey, wanna bud light? | ||
| And she'll be like, are you gay? | ||
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No! | |
| No! | ||
| And again, I'm not saying to be derisive, I'm saying the brand has associated itself with that. | ||
| Because of the hyper-partisan nature of the sales of this beer, you will be perceived as being a supporter of LGBT groups, as left-wing, or as a gay man yourself, if you're drinking the beer. | ||
| There's a political association now with it. | ||
| I feel like the only real save for them is to simply be honest. | ||
| Be honest with what the whole tactic was, and maybe issue an apology. | ||
| But it kind of feels like after you were saying that, it just made me feel like, Well, a tactic that you could potentially imagine is, now you could say that you're discriminating, and if you boycott and discriminate against Bud Light, you are this. | ||
| You are homophobic, you're transphobic, you're a white supremacist. | ||
| They don't... Bud Light does not want that, because that just pushes them to one market. | ||
| It may now be the case that Bud Light's only opportunity is to pander to the left. | ||
| But then they lose all their market share because they have to double down. | ||
| If they came out right away and just said, we're really sorry about this campaign, we didn't realize it would be so divisive, please accept our apologies, and they just did that, I'd imagine sales would have recovered right away. | ||
| But I'm telling you, I've been in these corporate executive offices during PR crises, and I know exactly what these people say. | ||
| They say, listen, The people who buy your products are dumb as a box of rocks. | ||
| They'll forget all about it. | ||
| Just shut your mouth. | ||
| PR 101. | ||
| Do not add fuel to the fire. | ||
| And Bud Light, Budweiser, and Anheuser-Busch said, OK. | ||
| And they ignored it. | ||
| And it festered and got worse. | ||
| Then someone said, OK, well, we got to do something now. | ||
| Then they put out that Clydesdale commercial, which just made everything worse. | ||
| They refused to apologize. | ||
| And they don't realize the people who drink their beer, people these days, they're networked. | ||
| We're hooked in. | ||
| We're not forgetting about this. | ||
| And now it's gotten to the point where, uh, someone mentioned on Twitter, Babylon B wrote a joke. | ||
| It said, uh, guys drinking Cosmos at bar make fun of dude drinking Bud Light or something like that. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That's the perception of you when you go to a bar and buy a Bud Light. | ||
| That you are like an effeminate Man. | ||
| Or gay or something. | ||
| And guys, they don't want to be perceived that way. | ||
| Especially when they're trying to pick up chicks. | ||
| Could you imagine being at a bar and then being like, ooh, there's some beautiful men over there. | ||
| I'm not going to get a Bud Light. | ||
| Give me an Old English. | ||
| Give me a Guinness. | ||
| I want to look strong. | ||
| You get a yingling and go, hey ladies, did you know that yingling is the oldest brew in America? | ||
| And they're like, oh wow, that's so impressive. | ||
| Your knowledge has impressed me so much. | ||
| Would you like to join us? | ||
| And you're like, that's right. | ||
| But if you walk over with a Bud Light, they're gonna be like, I always wanted a gay best friend! | ||
| And you're gonna be like, oh no, no, no, no! | ||
| There you go. | ||
| Those are the two choices. | ||
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You can take one. | |
| I am curious to see what happens with the people working at Bud Light, because obviously if they have a downturn in business, I can only assume that layoffs come. | ||
| I also imagine that the people who actually work in their factories or their breweries or whatever, They didn't get consulted for this move, and now their livelihoods are at risk because of one Harvard grad marketing executive, and that seems pretty terrible to me. | ||
| I was just going to say, what officially happened with the CEO? | ||
|
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Let go? | |
| Of what? | ||
|
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We're all on leave. | |
| Two marketing people were placed on leave. | ||
| That's what it was. | ||
| We're gonna go to Super Chat, so if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends if you really do like it, because boy, they really don't like us. | ||
| Head over to TimCast.com, become a member, and Let me take this opportunity to use the negative press against us as a shameless call-out and call to action. | ||
| If you want to help stick it to the liars in the corporate press who would besmirch our good name and a show that you enjoy, go to TimCast.com, click join us, become a member, and then we win. | ||
| We win, they lose, they decay, cease to exist, and then in a hundred years we'll be writing their obituary. | ||
| And we're gonna have a members-only show coming up at 10.10 p.m. | ||
| We're gonna have call-ins from the audience, so you guys can even call into the show. | ||
| Let's read. | ||
| Voice of the People says, Tim, Google E. Gene Carroll Juror 77 and read the political article. | ||
| They tried to get rid of that juror because he listens to you. | ||
| Robert Gouveia covered that today. | ||
| You should bring him on sometime. | ||
| Spoke with him before. | ||
| We don't know who the juror is, but he's clearly not a supporter of Trump. | ||
| Or do they mean Robert Gouveia? | ||
| That's what they want on. | ||
| Right, I know. | ||
| I'm saying, as for this individual, this juror, we don't know who he is. | ||
| And I, look, I'll say, I don't know what evidence he saw in trial that made him think Trump was liable for this, but it seems insane to me. | ||
| I think the reality is, it was probably like, what was that movie where all the jurors are in the room and the one guy, he's all- 12 Angry Men. | ||
| 12 Angry Men, yeah, it was like that. | ||
| The one guy's like, I don't know, man, I watch TimCast, I'm a reasonable person, I think Trump's not liable. | ||
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And then they just like, I feel like it had to be a technicality, like the law was written in such a way that there was no way to not convict. | |
| It had to be a really, really poorly written law. | ||
| Yeah, he didn't get convicted of sexual abuse, he got convicted of being liable for sexual abuse. | ||
| They said, if you think that Trump was physically present, then he's responsible or something. | ||
| But you know what? | ||
| I'm just going to say this. | ||
| There is no way Donald Trump walked into the Bergdorf without people being like, Mr. Trump! | ||
| And people being like, Oh, is it Donald? | ||
| It's Donald Trump. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| It's like, dude, so I like to hang out at like MGM National Harbor or Maryland Live or whatever. | ||
| And every single time, people are like, hey, Tim Pool, man, fist bump. | ||
| I'm like, hey, nice to meet you. | ||
| What's your name, Jim? | ||
| Nice to meet you, man, appreciate it. | ||
| Nonstop. | ||
| And I am nothing compared to, I am an ant. | ||
| I am a zit on the ass of a mosquito compared to Donald Trump. | ||
| Even in the 90s, we're talking about one of the most famous people in the world with his name on a building, and you think he's gonna walk into the Bergdorf, and nobody noticed. | ||
| Nobody noticed he was there. | ||
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I liked his, and I own the plaza across the street. | |
| And he's walking around with no security. | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| Donald Trump isn't even walking around. | ||
| He's getting in cars. | ||
| He has security detail. | ||
| People are opening the door for him. | ||
| So when he walks into the Bergdorf with like 10 staff members, he's like, where's the lady? | ||
| Oh, ma'am, come this way. | ||
| Staff, follow me. | ||
| We're going to the dressing room. | ||
| Get out of here. | ||
| This is insane. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| Absolutely ridiculous story. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| All right. | ||
| Matt H says, seriously Tim, check out Humankind, it's better than Civilization. | ||
| I'll take a look. | ||
| I've heard that's good. | ||
| Goldilocks Production says, Tim, I gotta call you out. | ||
| Nazi Germany was not fascist. | ||
| That was Italy. | ||
| They were National Socialists. | ||
| Fascism, National Socialists, Communists, and Marxists all fall under left-wing socialism. | ||
| Learn history. | ||
| Watch Tiki History to learn more about this. | ||
| I understand the, uh, I've read about, uh, National Socialists policies. | ||
| So, basically, there's many ways you can bring it down. | ||
| National Socialism was not, uh, People will call themselves things that they're not. | ||
| Antifa says that they're anti-fascist when they're like authoritarian psychopaths. | ||
| So I guess you can argue that Antifa, the original anti-fascist action, was the militant wing of the Communist Party in Weimar Germany, so I get that. | ||
| But the thing about National Socialists, Fascists, etc., is that these were considered the right because they were traditionalists, and the Communists were ultra-progressive. | ||
| The communists wanted to purge history. | ||
| The right, the various factions, wanted to preserve tradition and history. | ||
| And that was the principal difference between two overtly authoritarian factions, which went on to brutally murder millions of people. | ||
| What did the communists murder? | ||
| 100 million or something? | ||
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100 million, yeah. | |
| That's a lot of people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Also, TIK history is cool. | ||
| It's a good page. | ||
| Oh, is it TIK history? | ||
| TIK history, yeah. | ||
| TIK history. | ||
| Yeah, it's a good page. | ||
| Not cheeky. | ||
| Good information. | ||
| Let's read some more! | ||
| BoostedYogi says, from what I'm understanding, she filed the lawsuit the day after it was signed into law. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| Nothing to see here. | ||
| Don't ask any questions. | ||
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Totally legitimate. | |
| Burtman asks, how come leftists aren't boycotting CNN for platforming Trump? | ||
| You're supposed to be a writer over here at Timcast. | ||
| And they are. | ||
| There were there were people at CNN who was there was a CNN commentator contractor actually wrote a statement published Twitter saying it is wrong that CNN is doing this. | ||
| You should not be platforming this man. | ||
| Did they quit? | ||
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There was a bunch of comments to when it was first announced. | |
| There was tons of comments from from libs who were just pissed off. | ||
| Yep. | ||
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All right, where we at with the super chats? | |
| Let's see what we got. | ||
| JackknifeTV says they're going to try to lead him on. | ||
| She is openly pushing the subject to get him to dive deeper. | ||
| This is a reference to Trump talking about January 6 and the election. | ||
| And that's what I'm saying. | ||
| CNN, when Trump was like, we got to talk about election because our borders are terrible right now. | ||
| And she's like, well, I want to go back to January 6 because they want the soundbites. | ||
| They want the commercials. | ||
| They're doing Democrats a favor in that. | ||
| I'm sure some Democrat was like, Can you get Trump to talk for even a few minutes about January 6th and the election? | ||
| Because we are going to chop that thing up a hundred ways and run ads like crazy. | ||
| Like, don't worry, don't worry. | ||
| Kalen Collins goes out there and the guy in her ear is saying, ask him again. | ||
| Now ask him again. | ||
| Tell him no and go ask him again. | ||
| And that's why she kept saying the same things over and over again. | ||
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Every time they have a debate, that's where the moderators start from, is a list of questions that they have to ask so they can get the soundbite that they want. | |
| And then they ask it in the exact way that they need to. | ||
| Look, I feel bad for that stay-at-home mom. | ||
| She came in, she asked her question, a specific question about the troops, which I thought would have been an interesting answer. | ||
| And to be fair, Trump and sweet, sweet Caitlyn both ignored it. | ||
| Caitlyn just introduced five other questions. | ||
| BushTail says Trump hit it out of the park. | ||
| He talked circles around that moron sharing the stage with him and nailed answering the crowd questions. | ||
| CNN embarrassed themselves with this one. | ||
| I completely agree. | ||
| I think he started a little slow. | ||
| I was getting a little frustrated, but then he quickly just swung it out of the park. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| When he was like, well, I'm not president anymore. | ||
| That was the first big hit. | ||
| It was amazing. | ||
| Yeah, I like when he is succinct and not rattled. | ||
| When he was getting rattled, you could kind of tell, especially when they were talking about the documents, that was just too much talking over one another. | ||
| And really, that's the moderator's job to try and keep it from getting that way. | ||
| But I really like the conversation about Ukraine, and it really made her look like, dude, she answered you, or he answered you very succinctly, several ways, and she kept going back to it. | ||
| That's how you can see she's got to try and pull something out of it, otherwise she's not doing her job. | ||
| I like this, because Trump gives the answers I want to hear. | ||
| It's like, is he perfect? | ||
| No, of course he's not. | ||
| Nobody's going to be. | ||
| But when he was talking about abortion, and she's like, will you sign an abortion ban? | ||
| Politicians will be like, well, you know, abortions are an interesting thing, and I think as an American, we have to... Trump said, it depends on what the deal is. | ||
| Bring the deal to me, we'll negotiate, because we have negotiating power. | ||
| He's like, I got Roe v. Wade overturned, now we'll bring the deal to the table, we'll see what we get. | ||
| I'm like, that's a good answer. | ||
| It's like, It's absurd that they try and ask these absolutist questions they know will do. | ||
| The only thing that will happen is you will lose support. | ||
| Will you ban abortion outright, Donald Trump? | ||
| Trump could just be like, well, it's more complicated than that. | ||
| Probably to some degree, but not absolutely. | ||
| The answer's not yes or no. | ||
| And he even said, he was like, look, some people say six weeks, some people say eight weeks, I don't know, we'll see. | ||
| And then she kept asking over and over again. | ||
| What they're gonna do is they're gonna clip it up and say Trump refused to answer. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Well, do you remember in 2016, during the Republican debates, they kept asking him if he would accept the results of the election. | ||
| And they asked it over and over and over again, and he refused to respond. | ||
| And that was, again, one of those things where they were going to throw that back at him. | ||
| And the fishing, all they do is fish. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Brandon Hampson says, as a sailor who has been drunken, we spend atrocious amounts of money when we're half-seas over. | ||
| Thank goodness we're hearing from the source. | ||
| There we go, now we know. | ||
| Now we know. | ||
| I think of it as being like the sailors on leave, right? | ||
| Like, compare them to all kinds of wild things. | ||
| In high school in Singapore I saw a lot of sailors on leave doing just that. | ||
| Spending an absurd amount of money because they're at port, you know? | ||
| I was in the Air Force, we did the same. | ||
| Yeah, totally. | ||
| But you guys aren't as gone for as long as the sailors are. | ||
| No, we just like to drink. | ||
| Fair. | ||
| Sergeant Buck says Caitlin Collins is debating Trump so much she may as well announce she's running for president. | ||
| Seriously. | ||
| Because the town hall isn't supposed to be that. | ||
| No. | ||
| She's supposed to say, what do you think about X? | ||
| And then have him answer. | ||
| And then once he's done talking, you can say, so unlike the election thing, I would say, Mr. President, you've stated X. Please explain to the audience your views. | ||
| Then Trump talks. | ||
| Then, you can say, yes, but according to this person in your administration, you were wrong about this. | ||
| How would you respond to that? | ||
| That's what a town hall's supposed to be. | ||
| Not, no, you're wrong, you're wrong, wrong, wrong Trump. | ||
| Like, what are you, you're debating him? | ||
| And then she kept doing it every time, like, no, I'm sorry, that's not true, Trump, you're wrong, you can't say that. | ||
| It's like... | ||
| You're not here to debate him on what is right or wrong. | ||
| He is here to speak. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| It's like live fact-checking. | ||
| I'm not a Trump fan, but the thing that I really appreciated from him was the thing about Ukraine when she kept saying, who do you want to win? | ||
| It was such an obvious bait thing and he actually, he said it in the exact way that you would want somebody to be like, it's not about winning. | ||
| It really is about people not dying anymore. | ||
| It made her look so immature. | ||
| It makes CNN look so surface level. | ||
| They're equating this to winning. | ||
| It made their tactics very obvious, and it was such a virtue signal. | ||
| It was like, we need to be able to put you in a camp, so you need to answer this question like I'm asking it, not the way you're asking it now. | ||
| That's why she kept coming back to it. | ||
| Desanctimonious. | ||
| No, it doesn't work. | ||
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work. Not a fan. Maybe Dismal. The Swamptist? Yeah, that's better. The Swamptist. I think | |
| there has to be a better nickname than that. The Swamptist. | ||
| DeSatan? DeSatan might be a little too far. | ||
| I honestly think Meatball Ron was the best one. | ||
| Yeah, or just call him Ronny. | ||
| Like, make him sound like a little kid. | ||
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Lil Ronny. | |
| I'm not sure DeSanctimonious is my favorite. | ||
| Lil Ronny or Meatball Ron? | ||
| Meatball Ron's great. | ||
| I mean, I think Ron DeSantis is the best governor this country's had in a very, very long time. | ||
| I think he's doing amazing work in Florida, and I think he'd be a great president. | ||
| I'm leaning towards Trump at the current moment, and I think Trump just did an excellent performance. | ||
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I've said this a lot of times, but do you think we could maybe just not get into these two camps already? | |
| It's gotta be Trump-DeSantis. | ||
| It's gotta be Trump-DeSantis VP. | ||
| Also, can't we just be glad that, like, Ron DeSantis did lots of cool things? | ||
| Let's not eviscerate all of the Republicans because, you know, you may support Trump. | ||
| Let's have lots of strong people in this side of the aisle. | ||
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I've said it a lot on Twitter and I keep getting, you know, attacked over it, but, like, I don't have a problem with Trump and I don't have a problem with DeSantis and I'm not sure why We have to have a problem with one or the other. | |
| No, it needs to be Trump-DeSantis 2024. | ||
| It's the race to the bottom. | ||
| It's the tactic. | ||
| It's like, how do I make myself look good? | ||
| Well, the tactic is really smear the opponent. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So that's the race. | ||
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And I understand why Trump's doing it. | |
| See, that's the thing is I understand why Trump's doing it, because that's his job. | ||
| His job is to, you know, get all the competition out of the way. | ||
| But I'm not sure why it's everyone on Twitter's job to then also get rid of anybody that doesn't currently hold the same position they do. | ||
| I guess that's just the nature of Twitter. | ||
| They're used to regurgitating the tactic. | ||
| They don't come up with the tactic, they regurgitate the tactic. | ||
| Raymond G. Stanley Jr. | ||
| says, this lady is insufferable. | ||
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She really is. | |
| Yeah, man. | ||
| She doesn't have the same, like... I mean, I get that they're trying, and they do need someone. | ||
| But you look at someone like Megyn Kelly, and you know why she became an anchor. | ||
| Like, she's got it. | ||
| You look at Laura Ingraham, and you're like, I get it. | ||
| They have punch. | ||
| Like, you watch them, and you're like... | ||
| That's a person with x-factor. | ||
| Can you even consider that? | ||
| It's like dry, droll, and generic. | ||
|
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And whiny. | |
| Yeah. | ||
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Like, the biggest takeaway from tonight for her was how whiny she was. | |
| So annoying. | ||
|
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No. | |
| No, that's not right. | ||
| It's not right, no. | ||
| No. | ||
| She needed more poise. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| She wasn't poised. | ||
| You could tell, even though she had, like, good posture and she didn't really, like, cringe her face too much. | ||
| No presence. | ||
| You could tell, yeah. | ||
| She got upstage. | ||
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She did. | |
| But it's not about being upstage. | ||
| I mean, you're not supposed to be there too upstage. | ||
| Right, there's no upstaging. | ||
| But she has no presence. | ||
| It's like she was an inverse presence, like sucking energy instead of exuding energy. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| I think this is something that you'll hear tomorrow a lot, which is that, oh, the right is attacking her for pushing back on Trump, and girls have such a hard time, because when they assert themselves, people say they're bossy. | ||
| And I think it's important to note that, like, she didn't perform well. | ||
| It's not about the fact that she's female, it's about the fact that she did not moderate this conversation. | ||
| She really tried to argue her points, and in fact, she did not advance this experience for anyone, including the network she's supposed to represent. | ||
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Well, it was her conversation. | |
| She wasn't advancing anyone else's conversation except for herself. | ||
| And she didn't win anything. | ||
| She made herself, and therefore CNN, look bad. | ||
| What do we got here? | ||
| Toosnalorum says, not making every single liberal who fled a city, did mail-in voting to cast a vote, and voted locally in the place they fled to, a non... This is kind of sentence fragmenting. | ||
| I'm not sure what they're saying. | ||
| A non-voting felon for life is the same thing as too big to fail argument because it would obliterate the Democratic Party. | ||
| They were responding to something, but I can't tell what it was. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's... Yeah, okay. | ||
| I was trying to read it. | ||
| Sorry, man. | ||
| I appreciate it. | ||
| But... | ||
| A non-voting felon for life is the same exact thing as a too-big-to-fail argument? | ||
| You're implying that if we take away a felon's right to vote, Democrats lose? | ||
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That's what I can figure out from that. | |
| I'm not sure. | ||
| I don't know, that's interestingly worded. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Dansky says, Tim, I think you're confusing the Texas shooter with a juror. | ||
| Read four episodes. | ||
| I am not. | ||
| In the court documents, they say he watched three or four episodes, and the shooter posted four clips from one episode. | ||
| So that guy only watched one episode. | ||
| And the media just lies. | ||
| You know, whatever. | ||
| Sir Alexander Full says they want to give Tucker Carlson your time slot. | ||
| Why? | ||
| This is the crazy thing, right? | ||
| Like, I go on Joe Rogan's show, and he's talking about Ivermectin, and I'm like, I disagree, I don't think it does anything. | ||
| And they're like, Tim Pool is the poster boy for Ivermectin, and I'm like, what are you talking about? | ||
| It's the weirdest thing. | ||
| They're like desperate. | ||
| They're like, please, Tim, please, please be right wing. | ||
| And I'm like, I just disagree with that. | ||
| I just don't understand. | ||
| And then here I am using the New York Times as a source. | ||
| And they're like, he must be far right. | ||
| It's just dude, I mean, keep doing that. | ||
| You're discrediting yourselves. | ||
| I'll take the freebies. | ||
| If you're right-wing, then you're Fox's problem, right? | ||
| You're stealing Fox's audience. | ||
| But if you are moderate, and you're drawing from both places, then you are everybody's problem. | ||
| And that's what they don't want. | ||
| That's why they're going after me now, because they're like, our audience, like an urban liberal New Yorker in the Bronx will watch Timcast. | ||
| But it's like, we gotta stop that. | ||
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You cannot take the Young Turks' audience from them. | |
| Don't do it. | ||
|
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You're right, because they've already lost it. | |
| Well, and when we went to Congress and Matt Gaetz was there, he was saying he'd come out here, he'd done the show, and then we went to Congress and he was like, I was amazed by how many truck drivers or waitresses or just working people were like, oh, I saw you on Tim Pool. | ||
| That was awesome, man. | ||
| I think people underestimate podcasting in general. | ||
| I don't think they really understand or know how to measure and compare to these mainstream established platforms. | ||
| But especially the work that you've done, it's unique in a way that they are not sure what to do, so they'd rather just crush you. | ||
| New York Times, I don't even know what the show is. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They said The Culture War. | ||
| Like that thing we launched two months ago and there's like, what do we have, 11 episodes? | ||
| Literally 11 episodes. | ||
| 11 episodes. | ||
| That's how influential. | ||
| In 11 episodes, you have corrupted a jury. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
|
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It's amazing. | |
| I'm just saying like when you talk about conspiracy theories, we've never talked about conspiracy Well, the legacy media doesn't understand any of the new media at all. | ||
| No. | ||
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I mean, it's clear from the tactics that they take that they don't understand Joe Rogan, they don't understand Tim Pool, they don't understand Crowder, they don't understand whoever. | |
| They are completely living 20 years in the past and they're getting killed. | ||
| They're a cult. | ||
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They're getting killed too. | |
| I mean, the ratings or the watches for this show will take out pretty much any of CNN's daily stuff. | ||
| Oh yeah, no question. | ||
| They don't even hit, they barely hit five figures in the key demo. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| Well, any animal that's dying lashes out for the last bastion of control. | ||
| And really what the legacy media is seeing is that this new media and alternative media | ||
| is really stepping up. | ||
| So they need to try and exercise some control over it by placing people in certain camps | ||
| and them controlling the narrative of what those camps mean. | ||
| And I think, you know, it sounds trite to say it, but the 2024 election is likely going to be the most important one of all time. | ||
| This is a very seemingly pivotal time in history. | ||
| So it makes sense to like, okay, who has sway? | ||
| Who has influence? | ||
| Control the boxes that you can put them in. | ||
| And that way, the legacy media that feels like they're dying has a little bit of control left. | ||
|
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But does it really matter since the robots are going to kill us anyway? | |
| They're not going to. | ||
| Terminator's wrong. | ||
| I haven't seen that movie yet, so I don't know. | ||
| The Terminator's going to knock on your door and then people are going to be like, huh, it's the Terminator! | ||
| It's come to get us! | ||
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And he's going to clean your house. | |
| And he's going to plug into your brain and then give you untold euphoric pleasures and put you into the metaverse where you experience all of the great things and you never want to leave. | ||
| Like, what was it in Star Trek Generations? | ||
| Was it the Nexus? | ||
| What did they call it? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
|
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Yeah, but I've never seen that movie, because I'm not a Star Trek person, right? | |
| Where it's like, so, basically there's this, like, dimensional rift or something, and when you're in it, you experience ultimate happiness and you never want to leave. | ||
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William Shatner has a family, and he's chopping wood in the forest. | |
| And he doesn't want to leave, and Picard's like, you have to leave, you have to leave this. | ||
| I'm just speculating, I don't know. | ||
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I'm just speculating, I saw the cliff notes to the movie, I didn't actually watch it, Well, that's kind of like SOMA we were talking about before. | |
| SOMA from, what is that, 1984? | ||
| No, that's from Brave New World. | ||
| Yeah, so like being happy with your servitude. | ||
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Or Equilibrium, the best movie ever made. | |
| The first thing I think happens is they go to people who lose loved ones, and they say, just plug in, and we've taken the social media of your loved one and created an AI version of them. | ||
| You can talk to them and ask them questions, and they're not going to want to leave. | ||
| It's called Replica. | ||
| Have you seen that? | ||
| Replica? | ||
| Replica is... Oh, the dating app. | ||
| Well, yeah. | ||
| They tried taking dating away from it because dudes were, you know... | ||
| Well, yeah, and then some people were let down because they kind of pulled back because it was getting a little too hot and heavy for them. | ||
| But it actually started, the woman who launched it, it was because she lost her best friend or something like that. | ||
| So she made a clone so she could cope with the loss, you know, so like that's where it started. | ||
| And then it started turning into like a dating thing. | ||
| Do you think that's coping? | ||
| Like if you lose someone and you make a clone of them, do you think you're actually grieving or do you think you're avoiding grief? | ||
| You know, like, that's a very interesting nuanced question because I would say, is meditating coping? | ||
| Is praying coping? | ||
| Is, like, anything from alcohol to cannabis to long walks on the beach coping? | ||
| But if you lose someone and they can't talk to you anymore, so you make a version of life where they can talk to you, are you actually letting that person go? | ||
| Are you grieving the loss and accepting that they are gone? | ||
| Yeah, I don't think there's a clear answer to that because in a sense I know many people who have like lost a loved one and they still speak with them in some way. | ||
| So this is externalizing it in the same way that writing is externalizing your mind onto the outside world. | ||
| So I don't know. | ||
| I don't know how to fully answer that. | ||
| I do! | ||
| Go to TimCast.com and become a member for all of the answers to the universe. | ||
|
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What a segue. 42. | |
| So go to TimCast.com, become a member. | ||
| Thanks for hanging out. | ||
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| Carpe Danktum. | ||
| Do you want to shout anything out? | ||
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Dom Luker. | |
| That was a good shout out. | ||
| Yeah, all right. | ||
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And Carpe Danktum on Twitter. | |
| Okay, great. | ||
| Yeah, well I'll just say go to benjosephstuart.com, check out all the content that I make, go to my YouTube page, which is youtube.com backslash benjosephstuart, and you'll see all the mini-docs that I've been making on things like modern-day Malek and where AI is headed and why I seem to be an optimist on all of it. | ||
| And we got a documentary that we're launching very soon as well. | ||
| Game of Money. | ||
| It's kind of a play on Game of Thrones. | ||
| And then a lot more to come after that. | ||
| We got a bunch of cool projects potentially. | ||
| Transhumanism is going to be an awesome sequel. | ||
| That's the one I want to do the most. | ||
| But this banking one I think is particularly relevant. | ||
| We got lucky with that. | ||
| It's timely. | ||
| Right on. | ||
| That'll be awesome. | ||
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