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Timcast IRL - Tucker Carlson WAS FIRED From FOX News, Bud REMOVES Another Exec w/Savanah Hernandez
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tim pool
Earlier today, we heard that Tucker Carlson is out at Fox News and that his last show
We're getting new information that he was in fact fired unceremoniously without notification.
I should say technically with notification.
Apparently they notified him ten minutes before making the information public.
So they just hit him up and said, you're out, your show's done, you're not doing anymore, buh-bye.
And it's shocking, Fox News basically just, I don't know, ended themselves.
Especially as it pertains to a younger demographic, because Fox News' aging demographic is... Well, it's just that, they're aging.
So they definitely needed to capture young people, and they've lost it.
The news is that Murdoch himself pushed for Tucker Carlson to be removed.
So we got a bunch of other shocking information, of course, on, I should say, I don't know, inversely?
See, we're upset about the Tucker thing, but we're really excited for the Don Lemon thing?
Don Lemon also got fired for apparently, um, this is great, I want to give a shout out to our good friend Vivek Ramaswamy.
Apparently when Don Lemon started insulting him or, you know, arguing with him on air, that was the final straw for terminating Don Lemon from CNN, so, uh, he's gone.
And then, of course, we have the second marketing executive removed from Anheuser-Busch, placed on leave over the Dylan Mulvaney Bud Light boycott scenario.
So this is getting big.
We got news that apparently Bud Light sales down for the next week.
Bud Light sales were down for the next week about 17 to 21 percent,
depending on which metric you use, which is massive and they're reeling from it.
And I would say it's a bit worrisome.
Dylan Mulvaney has not posted anything online in about three weeks, so I hope the people who care about Dylan are looking out for him and making sure everything's okay because it seems like this person is in desperate need of some family care or people to be there for them in this time.
I mean that sincerely because it's got to be super stressful.
Not that I'm a fan of the work that Mulvaney does, but...
You know, let's just try and be human for a minute and win a boycott while making sure that's as far as it goes, right?
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Joining us tonight, one of several guests, is, of course, the lovely Savannah Hernandez.
savanah hernandez
Thank you so much for having me, Tim.
What's up, guys?
Savannah Hernandez here, reporter, political commentator, contributor for Turning Point USA.
Very excited to be here.
tim pool
Right on, thanks for hanging out.
And of course, I mentioned we have a special guest who has been patiently waiting.
I am excited to announce to all of you that we have on the show tonight, ladies and gentlemen, Seamus Coghlan!
seamus coughlin
You're a bad friend.
You brought me on this show, on my special day, and you tease a special guest so people think it's Tucker Carlson?
tim pool
No.
seamus coughlin
All the comments on Twitter, bro, it's like, is Tucker gonna be on?
tim pool
That's not fair, that's not fair.
seamus coughlin
I'm literally getting, I was getting chats on my live stream earlier today where people going, they think Tucker is gonna be on TimCast.
tim pool
Hey, that's not fair.
seamus coughlin
What do you think about that?
tim pool
I am actually mad at Tucker.
seamus coughlin
You're a dirty dog.
I don't even hear your rationalizations.
tim pool
I said all last week you were coming back.
seamus coughlin
It's true.
tim pool
I was very excited.
I said, guys, Seamus is coming back.
He'll be back by Sunday.
And then, you know, we're getting ready for the show and I'm going to be tweeting out Seamus here.
And then 1.1 million tweets about Tucker Carlson.
And I'm like, but my special guest is Seamus.
seamus coughlin
That's right.
tim pool
He's my special guest.
savanah hernandez
People aren't as excited as they should be.
No, they are.
seamus coughlin
They're less excited about me than they were at first.
Like, it's just not fair to give people the expectation that Tucker's going to be on and then have somebody even cooler.
You know what I mean?
We love Tucker.
But it was either going to be one of two things.
Tim was like, you should just do your Tucker impression.
I was like, I don't want people to think.
tim pool
That's not true.
seamus coughlin
I don't want people to think I am playing into your shit games of making the audience think a much bigger guest is on.
Quite frankly, to say Tucker Carlson isn't on, or is on, when he isn't, is in fact offensive to your audience.
And so, I felt that it was very insulting.
I just want the audience to know that I love and care for you all, and I think what Tim did to you, and did to me tonight, was just disgraceful.
Was just disgraceful.
And hurtful.
And I think you owe us an apology.
unidentified
What?
seamus coughlin
For you?
tim pool
Ladies and gentlemen, I am terribly sorry I brought Seamus Cochran on the show.
seamus coughlin
Thank you, that's all we asked for.
hannah claire brimelow
We are all sorry that you did that, I just have to say.
seamus coughlin
That's literally all I asked for, is some accountability.
Yeah, I will say this.
People thought Tucker was on.
Do you think Tim would have a big guest like that on and not spend the entire day promoting, like, guys, Tucker's gonna be there!
tim pool
I don't know, the only reason I'd hide the name is if I was ashamed.
seamus coughlin
He would literally rename the podcast Tucker.
Like, it would just literally be his new name on YouTube.
He would name it, like, Tucker's Show IRL.
tim pool
Thanks for hanging out, Seamus.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, happy to be here.
tim pool
We also have Hannah-Claire Brimlow.
hannah claire brimelow
Oh, hey.
I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlow.
I'm a writer for TimCast.com.
I'm filling in for Ian tonight.
I'm sorry, Tucker, upstaged your big moment, guys.
This is a reunion many people have been waiting for.
tim pool
In all seriousness, it's Rupert Murdoch's fault.
For doing this to Tucker.
seamus coughlin
That's why he did it.
That's why he did it.
He knew I was back on ShimCast.
That I'm a threat to the establishment so they don't want my platform to continue to grow.
Rumble.com slash Shamer.
That's my podcast.
That's my podcast.
Shamer, yeah.
tim pool
Oh, that explains it.
seamus coughlin
We're bringing shame back.
And it rhymes with my name.
tim pool
Surge is pressing the buttons.
seamus coughlin
What's up, guys?
tim pool
Let's do this.
I will say real quick, though, we definitely reached out because we were like, now that Tucker's not doing the 8pm slot on Fox News, he is free up.
But I'm sure everyone and their grandmothers and their grandchildren were calling Tucker Carlson, trying to get him on their show.
So I do know that, like, we know a bunch of the same people, and we know people who work for Tucker.
I'm hoping that we can actually get him on the show.
It'd be amazing.
I'm a big fan.
I think it'd be fantastic.
But we'll see.
I mean, it was a last minute thing.
We reached out to his people, they said, uh, they let him know, but there's currently, like, a big... He got... So, let's jump into the news so you can understand the context here.
This is, uh, this is really interesting.
We have this story from TimCast.com.
Fox News founder Rupert Murdoch pushed for Tucker Carlson's ousting.
Murdoch was reportedly cornered over the former Fox News host's... Is that what it says?
unidentified
Oh, I'm sorry.
tim pool
Concerned.
What am I doing?
Murdoch was reportedly concerned over the former Fox News host's coverage of the Capitol riot on January 6th.
Murdoch, the former Fox News host's departure is allegedly related to a discrimination lawsuit filed last month by former producer Abby Grossberg.
Carlson's senior executive producer, Justin Wells, has also been let go, though Fox News representatives did not further comment.
Grossberg, who worked on Sunday morning features with Maria Bartiromo, claimed she was bullied and subjected to anti-Semitic comments after being placed on Tucker Carlson Tonight.
Carlson previously reported on the Capitol riot, noting Ray Epps, who was present at the Capitol on January 6th, may be a government informant.
Epps has since claimed he has been scrutinized and received death threats following Carlson's reporting.
The FBI reportedly told 60 Minutes Epps has never worked for the agency, per the LA Times.
I think, um... I don't know.
I don't know exactly what they said, but I think the FBI statement at 60 Minutes was, like, weasel words.
Like, the question is, was he informing for you or taking any instruction from you?
unidentified
And they gave this, he has never been an employee of the, you know... Was this when Ted Cruz was asking questions?
seamus coughlin
No, this was a news statement.
unidentified
Oh, I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry, yeah.
tim pool
So here's what may be a factor here.
They're saying January 6th coverage.
I think specifically it's possible this is somewhat related to the Dominion lawsuit.
Not directly.
Indirectly in that they're like, we don't want to get sued again.
Don't go around accusing people of being federal informants or things like that.
That may be a factor in Tucker Carlson's ousting, but I do think it's important to point out.
Let's read this headline from the Daily Mail.
Tucker Carlson blindsided by Fox News firing that was a direct order from Rupert Murdoch after January 6th conspiracy claims and producers' lawsuit alleging bullying, sexism, and anti-Semitism, and his exit erases $500 million in value.
I think it went up to a billion on their stock.
So, I mean, the important thing to point out is that Tucker was our only real competition, and with his ousting, Timcast IRL, we're going to the moon, baby!
seamus coughlin
That's right, that's why I came back.
I wasn't going to come here.
I was telling Tim I would be here, and I wanted to leave him high and dry.
But then when Tucker got fired, I was like, this is an opportunity.
tim pool
That's right.
Seamus was like, bro.
seamus coughlin
I can literally do my impression of him all the time, and people won't even know the difference.
The media doesn't want you to know this, but you can just watch Timcast if you want to see Tucker actually.
hannah claire brimelow
It's better than AI.
This is amazing.
seamus coughlin
Exactly.
Exactly.
hannah claire brimelow
I do feel like this has the vibe of McDonald's deciding that it's not gonna sell the Big Mac anymore because some people get sick from it.
Like, they have lost so much money.
Tucker Carlson has such a big following.
How can they possibly fill this void now?
savanah hernandez
Dude, honestly, you know, again, The reason why he may or may not have been fired aside, I think that this is incredible for Tucker Carlson and for independent media as a whole, to be quite honest for you, because we already all knew that cable news was dead.
Gen Z, the average human being, is not getting their news.
You know, From mainstream media anymore, to be quite honest with you.
It's all coming from Twitter.
I mean, I've only ever watched Tucker Carlson segments on Twitter, to be quite honest with you.
So I really don't think that this is going to impact him very much.
He's only going to get bigger.
We all know that.
And yeah, good luck to Fox News after this, because they just completely destroyed themselves.
seamus coughlin
I hope you're right.
I don't know that I'm so optimistic.
I think you're right about Fox News destroying themselves.
But part of what concerns me is that there are millions of people in this country who still believe that the dominant media culture has any credibility, and they really do believe that Fox News sets the standard for acceptable conservative discourse.
And with Tucker Carlson leaving, while I do agree he certainly doesn't need Fox to stay afloat, I'll still watch him, you'll still watch him, the young audience who likes him will, his legitimacy isn't going to be given, or his ideas aren't going to appear to have the same legitimacy to an older audience?
hannah claire brimelow
I mean it makes me wonder if he'll go completely independent or if he'll move to like Newsmax, right?
tim pool
Or run for president.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I mean that would be even more fun.
seamus coughlin
Here's the thing, I hope you're right.
I hope you're right and Tucker just continues to grow and blow up.
The thing that people don't realize, right, with Fox News as they exist is while CNN is the network that tells you what you're supposed to believe, Fox is the network that tells you what you're allowed to believe.
You might not like the flavor CNN is offering, and so here's the outer limit over here of what you're allowed to voice and believe.
And what Tucker Carlson did is he moved the Overton window they had there more towards the direction of anti-establishment truth speaking, as opposed to catering to the vision of what conservatives should be that the establishment right has been trying to promote for decades.
tim pool
Well, yeah, a fox like Hannity is, you know, he's the guy who says, the big things that control stuff are bad.
So you should just sit there and listen to me yell about it so that they can keep doing whatever they want.
And then Tucker Carlson is like, you know, Actually, they shouldn't be doing that.
seamus coughlin
And here's an alternate theory.
This is one thing that conservatives have really struggled with in media, is what Fox will do, and what a lot of these right-wing pundits will do, is they will poke holes in the media narrative, but they won't offer a counter-narrative.
And so when we have Tucker Carlson talking about January 6th and Ray Epps, what he's essentially doing is filling in the gaps for people.
He's saying, here's this guy who we saw inciting, arguably, allegedly, right?
We have the footage of it, that's not alleged, but whether that's something he would be prosecuted with inciting violence for is another story.
However, what a traditional Fox News host might say is, we'll look at all of these holes in the left's narrative, but they wouldn't say, here's the alternate explanation.
And in fact, they would say, anyone who promotes that alternate explanation is a far-right lunatic and I'm not one of those guys.
Tucker Carlson was actually willing to give you substance aside from the left is wrong.
unidentified
Agreed.
savanah hernandez
Yeah, I think he did bring forward a lot of topics and like you said points that we would not have normally heard from a Hannity, maybe even from a Laura Ingram a lot of people talking about to how Jesse waters, maybe the only last person at Fox News that people could really trust who could maybe even follow Tucker Carlson so Yeah, you know, this is going to be a big hit, like you said, to the older generation that does still look to the mainstream media and view them as a legitimate source of news.
We'll see what happens in the future, but, you know, like I said, I think that this is actually a good thing.
I'm trying to look at the positives of this.
unidentified
I hear you.
savanah hernandez
You know what I mean?
Just with, like, Tucker leaving Fox now.
We know the corporate media is a laughingstock.
Nobody trusts them.
Elon is taking over Twitter now.
Independent journalism is really thriving.
Take a look at this story from Politico, it's interesting.
and blackpilled about a lot in the nation and so I think that you know I'm
just I'm excited about where we're at in regards to independent journalism and
the freedom that people now have to be able to tell the truth a little bit a
tim pool
little bit more. Take a look at this story from Politico it's interesting
Tucker Carlson's exit shows who who's the real star at Fox no one is
irreplaceable and they they're going to make the stupidest argument I've ever
heard that Glenn Beck wasn't the star in 2009 when he generated the largest
viewership in the 5 p.m.
hour.
Bill O'Reilly wasn't, blah blah blah.
They're arguing that Fox will easily replace Tucker Carlson in the 8 p.m.
slot.
And I gotta tell you, they will not.
No, they've already tried doing, I can't remember what show it was, they had one slot recently in the past year or whatever where they were doing a rotating series of guest hosts trying to figure out who would be a good personality and it didn't go anywhere.
Tucker Carlson is the guy, the dude.
hannah claire brimelow
And even when he's absent, right, there's no clear Oh, when Tucker's out, we definitely want this person in.
They haven't been able to successfully audition somebody to inherit the slot.
So now they fired him, they haven't even given him a transition schedule to leave, and they're going to do what with it?
Who are they going to call up from the bench to fix this?
savanah hernandez
That's what I'm saying.
I feel like Tucker was top dog.
He wasn't afraid to talk about things.
And the great thing about Tucker, too, is that he would go and speak to and platform the smaller independent journalists who had substantial stories.
I remember when I was at the 2022 NCAA Women's Swimming Championship, Twitter had deleted the clip of the first athlete that spoke out against Leah Thomas.
It wasn't Riley Gaines or the other athlete who had spoken out, but it was this young Virginia Tech swimmer named Rose.
Tucker picked up her interview.
He is the one that made that, you know, Really big.
Twitter ended up censoring and deleting the clip.
But, you know, that's just an example of how Tucker has been at the forefront of, like, helping the little man and helping the average American.
And that's why he's popular, because your average mainstream media head doesn't care about the, you know, the actual American public.
They don't care about what we are going through in this country.
They care about sharing their talking points.
Tucker was the exact opposite of that.
And there really is no other pundit that can compare in the mainstream.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, and that's also part of why I was saying earlier, I really do think this is bad for us.
We've been deprived of something.
Tucker having that platform on national television and being able to tell the story of these female athletes who have been deprived of what they should have had the opportunity to do because Lea Thomas was competing in their sports was massive.
tim pool
Two voters, 55 and up.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
tim pool
That's what we're losing.
hannah claire brimelow
You're not going to transition to YouTube the way that the younger audience, people who are interested in Tucker anyway, will.
savanah hernandez
Exactly.
And look at who the Biden administration is targeting right now.
It's Gen Z with all of these dumb TikTokers now.
And it is this next generation that is going to be leading this country, that is going to be leading us into where we're going to be going as a country.
I guess I articulated that horribly.
But yeah, that's why I'm like, OK, let's lose the boomer audience.
All right.
Like, we need to be focusing in on the younger people.
And I think that Tucker has that big following and he can do that with the amount of independent media we have.
seamus coughlin
I certainly don't disagree that Tucker's going to be fine on his own, and I hope that his audience is going to continue to grow.
I am just a little bit cautious, and I'm a little bit skeptical that he's going to be able to build the kind of platform that we would like to see him have, given how hard big tech clamps down on anyone who speaks the truth.
And I hope that's true.
And look, I'm on Rumble now, too, for my podcast.
I think they're a great platform.
I hope they're able to reach some kind of deal.
I do like your optimism, but I will still say I think the American people were deprived of something.
I think it's very sad.
He was basically the only person on cable television saying anything, right?
Like you said, the other news anchors give you talking points.
This is a threat to democracy, or that was racist and xenophobic.
They'll just regurgitate these lines they've heard someone else say, and Tucker would say something.
tim pool
Can you give me an example of something, say, Hannity said in the past few months?
seamus coughlin
No, I can't give you an example of something happening.
tim pool
Can anybody in the room?
seamus coughlin
Well, look, because I'm not a boomer.
I don't really watch cable television.
I'll tune in every now and again, but it's pretty rare for me.
I get most of my information from the internet and the sources I find to be credible there.
savanah hernandez
I just want you to know that you're insulting a lot of boomers in the chat right now.
seamus coughlin
Listen, listen.
No offense to the good boomers.
Some of them, I assume, are good people, right?
But my parents are in that generation.
My parents are in that generation, too.
And I think Tucker Carlson did fantastic work when he was on Fox.
tim pool
The boomers gave us Star Trek The Next Generation.
seamus coughlin
That's also true.
tim pool
It's fantastic.
seamus coughlin
That is true.
unidentified
Thank you, boomers.
seamus coughlin
That's like one of the very few things.
But if that's like the only thing, then... But even that was a spinoff of something.
I mean, Gene Roddenberry wasn't a boomer, right?
I bet that's a spinoff from the original Star Trek from the 60s.
Sure.
tim pool
And they made it better.
seamus coughlin
There's a whole huge debate to have there.
unidentified
We're not going to get into that controversial territory here on SimCast.
hannah claire brimelow
What if Fox brings on Don Lemon now and he takes the 8 o'clock time?
seamus coughlin
The thing is it wouldn't sound that different.
But Fox wouldn't sound that different if they brought Don Lemon on.
hannah claire brimelow
That's what bothers me.
They're all saying the same thing.
They're interchangeable.
tim pool
We gotta mention that dude was fired, but first I wanna talk about this story right here.
seamus coughlin
Oh, can I just make one more point really quickly about this?
So they're saying what you said hit the nail on the head, right?
They think Tucker is gonna be replaceable because everyone else on television is.
All of these other personalities are.
It is not gonna be easy to replace Tucker.
tim pool
We got another theory.
A couple theories as to why Tucker Carlson was removed from Fox News.
This story, just from the other day on Post Millennial.
AOC demands Biden admin regulate Tucker Carlson Fox News due to incitement of violence.
I just like to point something out.
How do you regulate incitement to violence?
Does anybody have a suggestion?
unidentified
You'd be in jail.
tim pool
Yes, incitement to violence is a federal felony.
And how do we regulate for people who are committing felonies?
We arrest them and put them in jail.
AOC said on MSNBC to Jen Psaki that what Tucker Carlson is doing is incitement to violence and the government should be involved.
They should be regulating this or whatever.
What they're doing is the typical leftist weasel words, where she's of course implying that Tucker Carlson should be arrested and charged, but then saying, no, of course, I mean, they should stop hate speech or something.
And it's like, you accused Tucker Carlson of committing a felony, incitement to violence.
That is, I'm pretty sure, defamation per se.
Meaning it's so egregious to accuse someone of committing a crime that it's much, much easier to overcome the burdens in time via Sullivan.
Tucker Carlson could probably just sue AOC outright for saying this.
seamus coughlin
I hope he does.
Because there are people who really incite violence like Savannah.
tim pool
That's right.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
savanah hernandez
You know what?
No, I really, I really hope that he does though, because to be quite honest, I am tired of these leftist politicians who do continue to incite people to violence.
We can look at the LGBTQ community, Antifa, Black Lives Matter, the list goes on and on.
We can look, you know, at the FBI and all the times they've entrapped Americans and tried to incite them to violence.
Let's go ahead and get into all of that.
And we want, we have AOC over here talking to the Biden administration, demanding them to take Tucker off of there.
It's absolutely ridiculous.
tim pool
More than that.
savanah hernandez
Yeah, put him in jail.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Chuck Schumer came forward too because he was saying that, you know, Tucker Carlson killed democracy.
It was the destruction of democracy when he came out and he showed the American public more January 6th footage that the J6 commission was withholding.
It's just absolutely ridiculous to me and I'm so tired of being run by criminals but that's just where we're at in America in 2023.
You know, the left can go ahead and incite violence against us all day long but Tucker Carlson can't go and accurately report on his own show.
hannah claire brimelow
I was just gonna say, AOC doesn't see that this is an endorsement of Tucker.
Like, she's reaffirming to people that this is their guy, right?
Because there are people, and you know, it is a little bit of partisanship.
Anything AOC says is wrong, and to be fair, that's not an entirely bad judgment.
But now that she's saying he's inciting violence, they know he's not.
They know that she, as a representation of the left establishment, is afraid of him.
It makes him even more powerful, especially to those who support him.
seamus coughlin
Well, exactly.
As you say, he's such a threat that he needs to be imprisoned.
He needs to be taken off the air.
Yeah.
And, of course, like you said, they accuse every single person who disagrees with them of inciting violence.
That's the new version of calling somebody racist.
All it means is you have said something that I disagree with, the term ends up losing all meaning, et cetera, et cetera.
tim pool
The other theory as to why Tucker Carlson is removed... So I got the idea here is that AOC is saying he's committing a crime, there's been big pressure, you know, so I doubt that's the reason, but, you know, maybe.
But the other big question is, Tucker just moved to Florida.
It was reported by the New York Post.
The New York Post deleted the article because I guess it had revealing information as to where he lived.
Why would he go down to Florida?
Well, Florida's nice.
It's a good retirement.
But he did so in the past week, which to some insinuates that he knew he was about to leave Fox News.
So this could be kind of like a retirement.
Cenk Uygur of the Young Turks said he believes that Tucker Carlson was trying to get fired on purpose because he intends to run for president.
Several others are implying that he may be Trump's vice presidential pick, which would be the smartest move that would have been the smartest move at any point ever, except for the fact that no one believed it possible because Tucker was working at Fox News.
Now that Tucker Carlson is a free agent, Trump-Carlson 2024 sounds extremely plausible.
hannah claire brimelow
I would like that even better if he had kept his residency in Maine, and then we could have Maine's very first anyone in the Oval Office, you know?
They've never had a president, they've never had a vice president.
I think Maine deserves that win, and Tucker Carlson would have been the best pick for it.
seamus coughlin
Is that your Maine concern?
I would say it's a strong... It wasn't just a pun, it was a legitimate question.
Do you spend a lot of time thinking about someone coming from Maine?
Because I'll just say, someone from Illinois, someone from Cook County, I'm hoping whoever's elected is not from there.
hannah claire brimelow
I feel like New England really needs to hold on, otherwise they're gonna have to merge into one state to have any kind of electoral power.
But I'm being serious, I think when people pick vice presidents they do want to show that they are representing a different part of the country.
That's why we picked Pence initially, right?
We have this brash New Yorker and then we have this like evangelical standard Republican from the Midwest.
In some ways, obviously we know Tucker Carlson is not like He does spend a lot of time in Maine, but he's not really from there.
It would represent different parts of the company, although it would be East Coast dominance.
I think it's... I think it would be an extremely unorthodox move to pick a VP who's from the same state that you are claiming residency in.
savanah hernandez
Although I will say, I have not been interested in following the 2024, like, pre-election stuff so far.
I feel like Trump's kind of bored of me, I'm not gonna lie.
Like, the constant...
bickering with DeSantis but Tucker being involved like obviously it's not confirmed that he's going to be vp but him just being involved in you know the speculation that this could now be a thing has made 2024 a lot more exciting a lot more exciting i would say yeah I mean, I would love to see a Trump-Carlson ticket.
Yeah, that'd be great.
tim pool
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
I don't think anyone's fighting it.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, I mean, a Trump-Carlson ticket could be a very interesting thing.
I mean, how would that work?
Tucker's just gonna lobby DeSantis to be his VP pick, or Tucker would run a campaign in the primaries to try to... Lobby DeSantis?
Oh, I'm sorry, not DeSantis, my bad.
Trump.
Talk to Trump and say, like, oh, make me... Donald, the establishment wants you to think, I can't be your VP pick.
I can't, actually.
Or does Tucker launch his own presidential campaign and then become the second?
Then lose and then join Trump.
hannah claire brimelow
That's what I think Tim Scott's trying to do.
I think that's why he's like, I have an exploratory committee.
seamus coughlin
Interesting.
hannah claire brimelow
I'm thinking about running for president, being like, Trump, please notice me, I'd love to be VP.
tim pool
Then Trump meets with them and says, don't run, and we'll give you a position or something like that.
That's probably a lot of what it is for all these people who are running.
They just want Trump to appoint them somewhere.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, I could see that.
tim pool
But Tucker Carlson would be legit.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
tim pool
I think that makes a lot of sense.
The thing is, apparently before Tucker moved to Florida, he had met with Trump and I think Marjorie Taylor Greene or something like that.
So the speculation was that something's been in the works for a minute.
hannah claire brimelow
I feel like his relationship with Fox has been strained for long enough.
As much as we appreciate what he does, it doesn't last forever.
It wasn't sustainable long term and I don't think either one of the parties were entirely happy with No, I mean, look, Fox is gonna try to find their new, like, bad boy, too, their new anti-establishment guy.
seamus coughlin
Who's not too much.
Well, exactly, because they're gonna want to be someone with sort of the veneer of being transgressive, but who will never say the kinds of things Tucker Carlson said.
hannah claire brimelow
But the fact that we can't name, oh, they're obviously gonna put...
We've got more news as to why people think Tucker may have been ousted.
tim pool
Trump Lemon 2024?
savanah hernandez
That would be, yeah, yeah.
Don Lemon would be Trump's Kamala.
tim pool
We've got more news as to why people think Tucker may have been ousted.
Check this out.
Jonathan Cogan says BlackRock increased position in Fox Corporation.
Fintel reports that BlackRock has filed a 13G-A form with the SEC disclosing ownership of 45.74 million shares of Fox Corporation, which is, they say, it's an increase of 14.75%, an increase in total ownership of 2.7%.
Do you think this played a role in Carlson's departure?
I don't know.
I mean, probably.
Isn't BlackRock like a principal ESG company?
seamus coughlin
Interesting.
I mean, it certainly could be a factor.
Certainly could be a factor.
I don't think they're in love with Tucker Carlson and what he's saying and doing.
I don't think anyone in corporate America wants... He's the only one on TV pushing back against him.
The only corporation he was earning money for didn't even like him, so... Yeah.
tim pool
Has Tucker criticized BlackRock before?
seamus coughlin
I wouldn't be surprised.
savanah hernandez
Yeah, he has to have.
But I mean, that's the thing.
seamus coughlin
BlackRock's the one company he's like, actually, I like them.
tim pool
For years, Tucker Carlson has had multiple segments talking about BlackRock.
Yeah.
savanah hernandez
Well, see, in the amount of things that he's talked about from, again, January 6th, the FBI, the DOJ, all of the corruption and that, from the economy to the border, it's like he was talking about real substantial issues, not the distractions that the mainstream is continuously pushing our way.
So it was only a matter of time before he was eventually taken off air because, I mean, we've all seen how powerful Tucker's segments were.
We've all seen, you know, how much sway he had in the public, how much support he does have.
So, yeah, I mean, I wasn't even surprised when I saw this, to be quite honest.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, it was only a matter of time, right?
He wasn't going to spend the rest of his career there.
tim pool
But, I mean, how old is he?
Is he in his late 40s?
hannah claire brimelow
No, he's older than that, I think.
I think he's in his 50s.
unidentified
50s?
Because he has kids who are, like, out of college and stuff.
Really?
don lemon
Yeah.
tim pool
53 years old.
unidentified
53?!
seamus coughlin
I love that that's the picture that comes up when you Google him.
It's the exact picture you think would come up.
It's the face.
tim pool
The face where he's scrunching his face?
He's 53, he's not quite at retirement yet, but he is at be the VP age, I guess.
seamus coughlin
Retirement ain't about your age, it's about your bank account.
tim pool
He's got a big one.
seamus coughlin
You gotta absolutely step out if you wanted to.
I don't think he wants to, though.
tim pool
There's other questions about whether or not he just saw how much money was being made by people who were independent, and he realized that Fox News was just taking everything from him, you know?
seamus coughlin
I wonder how much Fox News was trying to censor and suppress what he was trying to discuss.
I wonder how much that was going on behind the scenes as well.
he making? That's too much money. How much money is Tim making? No one should have that much. The
government needs to take that. He makes that much to voice Dr. Fauci on Freedom Tunes?
savanah hernandez
It's ridiculous. Well, let's see. And I wonder how much Fox News was trying to censor and suppress
what he was trying to discuss. I wonder how much that was going on behind the scenes as well. So,
yeah, that is why, again, you know, the independent media is so enticing to so many people because
then you're not tethered to anybody or anything.
You have nobody lording over you, telling you what you can and cannot say.
You know, people have been making the meme all day, Tucker Carlson on leash, which I think is spot on.
seamus coughlin
But what if he didn't even want to talk about politics this whole time?
And that's how Fox got him.
He wants to be like a Minecraft YouTuber.
He's like, actually, if I use my diamond axe and keep hitting this, I don't play Minecraft.
hannah claire brimelow
He's got a cooking show that he really wants to, like, get off the ground.
seamus coughlin
He's like, here's my video essay on why Spongebob got bad after the first 10 years.
tim pool
He's playing Overwatch.
hannah claire brimelow
I just think that, you know, part of it isn't even about retiring.
It's that the landscape of American politics.
I think people are a little... Shh, I'm talking.
No, I'm just kidding.
So rude for interrupting me.
I think that the landscape of American media and politics has changed so dramatically that, you know, no one who goes into media right now knows exactly where their career will be in 10 years.
And I think that's always been true of Tucker Carlson.
It would be surprising to me if he hadn't seen some sort of writing on the walls and been plotting an exit.
The weirdest thing about this to me is that it's so abrupt.
tim pool
I don't, yeah, I don't know if, it was, it was apparently like he got 10 minutes notice.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
tim pool
But let's, look, look, well, I know that we're all sitting here somber and serious, but we have a very, very similar story that will allow us to laugh.
And that story is Don Lemon says he was fired by CNN.
Lemon said he's stunned and learned the news from his agent.
Quote, Don will forever be a part of the CNN family.
We thank him for his contributions over the past 17 years.
We wish him well and will be cheering him on in his future endeavors.
Well, I'll be cheering on his departure, so we're all cheering for something.
How about that, CNN?
After 17 years at CNN, I would have thought that someone in management would have had the decency to tell me directly.
At no time was I ever given any indication that I would not be able to continue to do the work that I have loved at the network.
It is clear that there are some larger issues at play.
Now, I got to agree.
First James O'Keefe, then Don Lemon?
People are going after very pro- Okay, so we are concerned about James O'Keefe and Tucker Carlson.
We're actually happy about the Don Lemon thing.
So, uh, it is strange, though.
I mean, a lot of shake-up in media.
seamus coughlin
So what are you saying?
No one at CNN actually told him?
tim pool
Apparently he's lying.
seamus coughlin
Oh, okay.
I guess CNN- Well, that's why he worked there.
savanah hernandez
Yeah, can I just say that my favorite part about his firing is that he couldn't even accurately report on his own firing.
Come on, Don!
Damn!
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, it's also interesting to me that we're all like, oh, so Tucker's probably gonna go independent, whereas, like, Don Lemon, we're like, what is he gonna do?
savanah hernandez
By tomorrow, he's out.
seamus coughlin
He's gonna be holding a foam cup.
savanah hernandez
What happened to Brian Stelter?
That's where Don Lemon's going.
hannah claire brimelow
We just know he is not going independent, and partially this, like, how could they do this to me statement proves how much he wants to stay with the machine.
It's just such a clear contrast in the mentalities, right?
We have no hope for him.
tim pool
Did you guys see Brian Stelter on that, uh, he did that interview?
Who was that interview with?
I think it was News Nation or something.
And he's like, why were you fired, Brian?
And he's like, I don't know.
I really have no idea.
And everyone's like, really, Brian?
You don't know?
Your boss explained exactly why he was firing people.
And it's like, your boss comes out and says, I'm going to fire partisan actors who are activists and not journalists.
Brian Stalter, you're fired.
Me?
I wonder why that happened.
unidentified
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
How could you do this to me, says Brian.
tim pool
Well, Don Lemon is like, I can't believe this happened.
Are you kidding, dude?
You made Caitlin Collins cry.
It's been reported.
unidentified
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, part of it is this idea, like, how could senior management not contact me?
Like, maybe it's because they don't want to talk to you because you're difficult to deal with.
Like, that's why they made your own agent tell you.
Because they didn't want to have a scene in the building.
They didn't want to deal with a call.
unidentified
Like, Yeah, sometimes a person is like a maniac, that's a fair point.
tim pool
And Don Lemon fits that profile.
savanah hernandez
No, he's so rational, what are you talking about?
seamus coughlin
Tim, you Hanser, you Hanser, you hired cancelled people, you should hire Don Lemon, dude.
Get your other chair.
tim pool
Jeremy Boring posted something like, many people are asking about Daily Wire, making an offer to Tucker, but wherever Tucker lands he'll be successful, and then he later posted, many people are asking about the Daily Wire hiring Don Lemon.
I'm just kidding, nobody's asking that.
hannah claire brimelow
That would be an amazing shakeup, though.
Don Lemon goes to the Daily Wire.
seamus coughlin
It's a sad state of affairs, because basically everyone on cable news is somebody who would never have gotten a platform if they had to build it up on their own.
tim pool
You know, let me tell you something.
savanah hernandez
Yeah, that's an important point.
tim pool
Yeah, and- How much was Don Lemon getting paid?
savanah hernandez
Too much.
hannah claire brimelow
Also to have been with the network for 17 years.
tim pool
4 million.
seamus coughlin
Wow.
tim pool
Uh, let's see, his salary is estimated to be 4 million dollars per year.
I'm thinking about that, right?
Nobody likes Don Lemon.
Like, even the left doesn't like Don Lemon.
Nobody likes him.
seamus coughlin
Oh, now I'm starting to feel bad for him, Tim.
You're really going in on this guy.
savanah hernandez
It's okay, it's okay.
He can just move to San Francisco and get reparations.
He'll be fine.
tim pool
Here's what I'm thinking about.
We're talking about what could this guy do now that he's, like, lost his job.
He can't get a job at a movie theater as a manager, right?
Because they'd be like, dude, you're Don Lemon.
That's gonna cause issues for us.
seamus coughlin
You're overqualified.
savanah hernandez
You're bad for our brand, man.
Get out.
tim pool
No, it is.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Like, high-profile individuals can't get regular jobs for the most part because they're just like, you're a huge liability.
We don't want the attention, we don't want the commotion, and we don't believe that you'd actually take the job and stick with it.
So Don Lemon, where could he possibly go?
I'm imagining what it would be like to be Don Lemon and to be hanging out semi-retired because you got fired at a bar.
Do you think people are gonna go to Don Lemon and be like, hey man, I'm a big fan.
Sorry to hear what happened?
No way.
seamus coughlin
Well, it depends on the kind of bar, I guess.
tim pool
No, I don't think based on the way the left and the right view Don Lemon, that there's any circumstance where he shows up somewhere and they're like, wow, Don Lemon, I'm such a big fan of your work.
They might be like, oh yeah, you're Don Lemon.
How about that?
seamus coughlin
You never go to the center left bar down the street?
tim pool
He's not even center left.
seamus coughlin
I know, he's like a weirdo.
tim pool
He's like weirdo panderist corporatist.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And people are going to be like, ha, look, it's Don Lemon.
Get a job!
That's what they're going to do.
seamus coughlin
He's going to become a Twitch streamer.
He's going to be biggest one.
hannah claire brimelow
I think that would be an amazing character arc.
But also, I think he's going to do what a lot of people who kind of fail their way out of the career they're in, whether it be media or politics, and he's going to go into academia.
He's just going to become a professor.
Some college is going to be like, oh, Don Lemon.
We will just give you tenure right away, and you can teach the next generation of people, and then we get to bring you out whenever we're like, look how fancy our school is.
savanah hernandez
And she checks all the DEI boxes as well, so that's a good point.
This is the reason why, as well, media is so dead, because the next generation of journalism students are being taught and indoctrinated by people like Don Lemon and Brian Stelter.
It's truly incredible.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
It's not a great system, but it's the one that exists.
savanah hernandez
Because that's where Liz Cheney is.
hannah claire brimelow
Liz Cheney's teaching at, what, University of Virginia?
tim pool
I don't think anybody actually watched Don Lemon.
seamus coughlin
But he's a name people know.
So I think I agree with Hannah Clare that some university will be like, we only hire people who don't know anything.
tim pool
What if CNN offered you $4 million a year to host The Morning Show with Caitlin Collins?
seamus coughlin
Uh, I would say that's far too much.
It's gonna be a giant waste of money.
I'm gonna go do it.
And then I would go in there, and on the first day, I would say everything that they... No, I mean, ah!
I'd say with the... Yes, CNN, reach out to me.
Let's have a conversation.
You can contact my people.
tim pool
But I mean, it's a serious question, though.
seamus coughlin
Do you think, yeah, are you really, like, what would I if CNN had a show with me?
I would explain to the public why the sexual revolution is a farce, and this country's great Christian values, and that would be my morning show.
I'd be like, this coffee is terrible, but you know what's even worse?
tim pool
John Money.
seamus coughlin
It has been done to mankind.
John Money.
Alfred Kinsey.
I would turn the first morning show into a presentation on Alfred Kinsey.
tim pool
No, but in all seriousness, if CNN tried poaching an anti-establishment or right-leaning personality, and the CEO was like, look, we don't want to be partisan, Should they do it, right?
Like, would you take a morning anchor position at CNN?
savanah hernandez
Absolutely not.
seamus coughlin
Liar.
tim pool
No, I wouldn't.
Yes, you would.
savanah hernandez
I'm not a money person, and CNN is a laughing stock.
I'd be embarrassed to work there, to be quite honest with you.
hannah claire brimelow
See, I feel like Shane is kind of right, to be like, yes, I'll take the money, and then I'll just continue to be myself.
seamus coughlin
And they can fire me.
hannah claire brimelow
If you have an ironclad contract where it's like, if you want to fire me, you have to pay me an additional million dollars, like, just run it out for six weeks, right?
savanah hernandez
The reason why I wouldn't go there is because, again, I really do truly feel like corporate media is dead, so going to CNN would just kill my career.
It'd just be pointless.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, you're picking meat off the carcass, but you're still making four million dollars.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Like, you go into CNN, you look at the camera, and you explain all of the horrible things that the industrial military complex is doing and the wars they're pushing us into.
And the Fed.
Yeah, and the Fed.
You explain to them the farce of sexual liberation.
You explain to them what's happening to these children who are being mutilated by doctors.
tim pool
And then you lead a segment with a few moments of prayer.
Silent prayer.
seamus coughlin
Exactly.
And then they're like, alright, now we gotta go.
There's no way.
hannah claire brimelow
If you want to reach the people most in need, actually going to CNN is essentially a missionary trip.
seamus coughlin
Exactly.
Tim, you just asked me if I would go to Nineveh for four million dollars or whether I would go into the belly of that whale.
savanah hernandez
I'm choosing the whale.
You're better than me.
You're better than me.
seamus coughlin
Well, Jonah did it first too.
tim pool
The other thing is, I've actually gotten a bunch of messages from people and they were like, your main competition for 8pm has been removed.
And it's like, look, For us, Tucker Carlson was competition.
For Tucker Carlson, we are not competition.
You know what I mean?
savanah hernandez
The torch has been passed, Tim.
This is a lot of pressure on you.
hannah claire brimelow
He needs to formally come in and announce you are the new 8 o'clock American time spouse.
savanah hernandez
You need like a silk beanie now, alright?
tim pool
Well, hopefully we get him on the show.
And then he says, uh, you just watched him cast Tyrelph?
No one.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, you should ask Tucker to be your new co-host, dude.
tim pool
But I think the reason I was asking about CNN is because Chris Licht is clearly trying to fix the network.
I'm not sure if it can be done because, like, if you bought a car and then, like, some guy, say it's Don Lemon, went inside that car and then defecated all over the seats, the nice leather seats.
seamus coughlin
That happened to a friend of mine, actually.
tim pool
And then left the car in the sun for, you know, several days to fester in the summer heat in Las Vegas.
And and then I knew the car was given was bought by some guys like I'm gonna clean this up You know, I still wouldn't want to ride in the car.
Yeah, you know what I mean?
There's nothing you could you could replace the inside and everything I'm just like you don't want to be in a car that Don Lemon sat in but it's not that it's like people are gonna see you driving around in it and they're gonna be like dude you're driving around in that car full of crap.
It's like we cleaned it man.
It's like I hope so.
seamus coughlin
He who humbles himself will be exalted.
unidentified
That's embarrassing, bro.
Get out of there.
What did you say?
seamus coughlin
He who humbles himself will be exalted.
If that's what CNN is, I would go there and I would spread the truth, and I would take the embarrassment of being on CNN.
But there's an important point to this conversation, which is that as we're talking about CNN, every single one of us is like, that would be super embarrassing to be on CNN.
unidentified
I would be like, absolutely.
tim pool
Can I play for you the clip that got Don Lemon fired?
So this is from Aaron Rupar, the notorious, what is he still with Vox?
I don't know where he works.
I guess not.
He's, according to the New York Times, this interview that Don Lemon conducted last week with Vivek Ramaswamy played a role in his firing.
Note, co-host Poppy Harlow sitting silently while Lemon goes after Vivek.
Check this out.
Is it gonna play out?
unidentified
Wait, wait, wait, I gotta pause.
your explanation reductive and actually insulting, including to black Americans, to say that
black people today, compared to 1964, 1865, haven't made progress in part because of the
freedoms we secured. And the second amendment was part of that.
don lemon
Please, I cannot keep a thought if you guys are talking to me in my ear. So hang on one
unidentified
second. So to say that, wait, I got to pause. You hear that?
tim pool
Don Lemon is talking to the producers telling them to stop talking to my ear.
They're probably saying, Don, shut up!
Stop!
And he goes, I can't!
I can't do this!
And then he goes off.
It's not the first time he's done this.
unidentified
Black people secured their freedoms after the Civil War.
It is a historical fact, Don.
Just study it.
Only after their Second Amendment rights were secured.
don lemon
That's a fact.
They were not secured their freedoms after the Civil War.
You are discounting Reconstruction.
You're discounting a whole host of things that happened after the Civil War when it comes to African Americans, including the whole reason that the Civil Rights Movement happened.
It's because black people did not secure their freedoms after the Civil War, and that things turned around.
People tried to change the freedoms that were supposed to happen after the Civil War.
unidentified
And you know how they got it?
They got their Second Amendment rights, and the NRA played a big role in that.
The NRA did not.
don lemon
The NRA did not play a big role in that.
The NRA did not play a big role in that.
unidentified
This is just historical fact.
It's not historical fact.
don lemon
Just because you say it's historical fact, it's not historical fact.
unidentified
The part that I find insulting is when you say today black Americans don't have those rights after we have gone through civil rights revolution in this country.
don lemon
The fact that I find insulting is that you are sitting here telling an African American about the rights and what you find insulting about the way I live, the skin I live in every day.
unidentified
Here's where you and I have a different point of view.
don lemon
And I know the freedoms that black people don't have in this country and that black people do have.
unidentified
Well, here's where you and I have a different point of view.
I think we should be able to express our views regardless of the color of our skin.
We should have this debate without me regarding you as a black man, but me regarding you as a fellow citizen.
don lemon
That's what I think we should see.
Whatever ethnicity you are, explaining to me.
tim pool
Whatever ethnicity you are!
unidentified
Yeah, that was bad.
I think we should have this debate.
Black, white, doesn't matter.
don lemon
I think we should have this debate on the content of the ideas.
You should do it in an honest way and in a fair way.
And what you're doing is not an honest and fair way.
We appreciate you coming on.
tim pool
Could you imagine buying a car that's been just like stained with Don Lemon's crap?
And then you're like trying to convince people you're making it better, but Don Lemon keeps crapping in the front seat.
seamus coughlin
I gotta be honest, I am so sick of whatever ethnicity you are privileged.
It is.
tim pool
Whatever ethnicity you are.
Wow.
hannah claire brimelow
No, I just want to be Poppy Holland right now.
tim pool
He went for being racist without knowing what racism was.
seamus coughlin
Without even knowing.
He's like, I don't know what stereotype to insult you with.
He's like, I'm just going to assume there is something.
tim pool
So, but I think the real reason he got fired is right there in the beginning.
I'm going to play that again.
unidentified
With due respect, I find your explanation reductive and actually insulting, including to black Americans, to say that black people today, compared to 1964, 1865, haven't made progress in part because of the freedoms we secured.
And the Second Amendment was part of the... Hang on, please.
don lemon
I cannot keep a thought if you guys are talking to me in my ear.
tim pool
Right there.
I cannot keep a thought if you guys are talking to me in my ear.
CNN is so horribly mismanaged.
I bet they were saying, stop arguing.
Be a journalist.
Stop arguing.
Ask him his views and move on.
And Don was like, no!
Black lives matter!
seamus coughlin
If he asks some questions, he might know what ethnicity he is.
tim pool
That's right.
hannah claire brimelow
No, no, no.
It's not about who he's interviewing.
It's about Don Lemon, right?
unidentified
He's here to make these points, whatever ethnicity you are, and move on.
hannah claire brimelow
I think that's what's hard.
He is used to interviewing guests who are maybe a little sycophantic.
He's not prepared to – not that Vivek is being hostile.
They're just obviously on different sides.
So he's not prepared to go into an interview with someone who he disagrees with.
he wants people to support his beliefs only. And I think that summarizes a lot of the hosts on
CNN and their viewership, right? It is ultimately to reinforce your own world view, whereas like,
contrasting Tucker, Tucker is like, look, we got to talk about this stuff that's happening,
even if you don't like it, or even if you're skeptical about it.
tim pool
Jeff Zucker slithered into CNN and then defecated into the brains of their hosts.
Because Don Lemon, if you watch his videos from like 10 years ago, was a very, very different person.
savanah hernandez
I was gonna bring that up.
If you just played a clip of old Don Lemon versus new Don Lemon, completely different people.
Completely different.
Like, yeah, Don Lemon, I wouldn't say mirrored Tucker, but he made good points.
He was a normal human being.
He actually seemed like he cared about reporting and, you know, highlighting issues that were actually affecting people, whereas now it's all propaganda.
So this clip is just incredible.
We love to see it.
We love to see people imploding, you know, via their own actions.
hannah claire brimelow
I just wish we could get the audio.
Like, I wish they'd leak the audio of whatever they were saying to Don Levin.
Like, please, just move on!
Don't say anything!
Don't!
savanah hernandez
Don't do anything!
tim pool
And he's like, no, I don't need you.
No, it's the producer being like, Don, please.
You need to stop.
And then he goes, I can't keep a thought if you're talking in my ear.
And he goes, I'm sorry.
savanah hernandez
Or it was the producers trying to, like, feed him talking points to counter the vape.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
You know what?
This is occurring to me, too.
So, his network is most likely getting mad at him for being annoying, but it's not like he broke a particular story that anyone is speculating that they're mad at him for.
And if that really says something, because with Tucker Carlson, we are speculating, well, maybe it was the January 6th story, maybe it was about the Dominion voting systems, whatever it might be, he stepped on a lot of toes, which, theoretically, is what a journalist is supposed to do.
What story has Don Lemon broke of any consequence that any person in power would be upset about?
tim pool
Oh, he broke the story that he is a black man who has personal experiences that The Fake is wrong about.
seamus coughlin
See, well, I didn't know that, so thank you for informing me now.
I have so much more respect for his journalistic abilities now.
That's right.
tim pool
His lived experience, you mean.
seamus coughlin
Couldn't figure out whatever ethnicity that guy was.
tim pool
His lived experience.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, but he knew about his own lived experience.
Isn't that so dismissive, though?
So hold your own ethnic or racial identity as so important to you, and then just totally
dismiss somebody else.
Like, whatever you are.
savanah hernandez
I mean, but that's the entire modern day.
It's either your race or sexuality, whatever makes you the most special, and then you just
use that to discount anybody who disagrees with your claims.
That's it.
seamus coughlin
So easy.
For sure.
But if you're going to be race obsessed, at least be obsessed with my actual race.
Remember that- Whatever you are, Stan.
I'm not from whatever you are, Stan.
tim pool
There was a phone call interview, and there was a black radio host, and it was like a white woman, and she was like, well, you wouldn't understand because you're white.
And he goes, what?
Ma'am, I'm black.
And she's like, what?
He's like, I'm black.
And she's like, you are?
Like, her whole worldview was just totally racist, and she couldn't understand that there are, like, black people who have opinions.
And then the weirdest thing, these white liberals who are like, They can't fathom someone like Candace Owens or Larry Elder or Thomas Sowell.
Those people must be white supremacists or something.
Or not exist at all.
savanah hernandez
Yeah, people tell me that I want to be white so bad because I use my brain and I've done research regarding why our country is where it is.
So that means I'm trying to be a white person apparently.
tim pool
Yeah, I remember, I told this story before about when I was at the Dakota Access Pipeline protest
and had a white dude tell me that Asian, when he mentioned that being on time for meetings was
colonial thinking. Nope, that's what he told me. And then I was like, what are you talking about?
I was like, I have a meeting, I got to leave. And he's like, that's what the colonists,
Native Americans, they didn't do that. They just, you know, they knew when to wake up.
And then I was like, what are you talking about? Asians have schedules too, like what?
And he was like, yeah, but let's be real, like white people brought that stuff to Asia.
And I was like, Asians invented the compass 1,000 years before you did, dude!
I'm not gonna sit here and listen to a white supremacist tell me he invented all culture in the world, but these people genuinely believe it!
Like, they're white people who think they did everything, and anything good and, like, stoic or work-related or responsible is—they think it's just them, and they must bring it to all the lowly others.
seamus coughlin
Exactly.
Well, it's not just that, right?
Because then they hate those things, they hate those good things, and they also blame white people for them at the same time while taking credit for them.
So yeah, something like having schedules and being on time, that's why people think, like, the ancient Egyptians had sundials.
Other cultures have had a concept of linear time, as it turns out.
People figured out pretty early on that one thing happens after another thing, and that you can figure out what you're gonna do based on what things in nature do in their cycles, like where the sun is at in the sky, for example.
tim pool
And when we gotta harvest the grains to make our beer.
Yeah, exactly.
It started in North Africa, Northeast Africa.
Let's read this next story.
We'll jump out of the cable news stuff and into the boycott stuff.
We got this big story from Breitbart.
Bud Light marketing executive Daniel Blake on leave after Dylan Mulvaney ad campaign.
Ladies and gentlemen, two different marketing executives have been placed on leave by the company.
You know what's really crazy?
Instead of just saying, we're sorry, they just removed two people, which is a huge victory, I gotta be honest.
I'm happy to hear it, but they can't apologize?
savanah hernandez
Well, they put out a patriotic ad, Tim.
That was it.
hannah claire brimelow
They have apologized.
What else do you want?
unidentified
And then they sidestepped the entire conversation.
tim pool
I gotta give a shout out to John Oliver, who I think is as dumb as a box of rocks, but had a good joke.
He was like, I think it was Oliver, he said the commercial was basically typing in, America, freedom, patriot, sorry.
And that's what would come out.
And I'm like, That's actually pretty good, like, that's basically what they did.
And they tried doing the 9-11 thing.
Like, insult to injury, apparently they had the Clydesdale commercial after 9-11, with the butt or whatever.
I don't remember that, I mean.
So that's what they did in this new one, the Clydesdale is running, and then it runs past New York, and it's like, those who never forget.
And it's just like, dude, you're not getting out of that by saying 9-11.
hannah claire brimelow
Please don't use a national day of mourning to get you out of this mess.
savanah hernandez
I mean, we've downplayed 9-11, you know, so much.
Might as well just throw it in the Bud Light app.
hannah claire brimelow
Apparently so.
It's what you need to do when you have to apologize to people you don't like.
I will say, my only thing, I've said this before, is that both of these people are on leave.
They are not actually fired.
A lot of people view this as a step towards being fired, but I just think they'll put them in the background for a little while, they'll go to the Bahamas, they'll hang out, and then they'll come back.
They are hoping to keep these people employed.
tim pool
I think the first lady got fired for hiring Dole Mulvaney, and the second guy got fired for that stupid horse commercial.
hannah claire brimelow
But they're not fired, they're on leave.
tim pool
Well, okay, that's what I mean.
I mean, like, removed.
savanah hernandez
I thought the first girl got fired.
hannah claire brimelow
No, she was the nominee.
tim pool
They were both placed on leave.
hannah claire brimelow
Which is ambiguous.
It means that, like, when you guys are tired of being mad at us, we'll bring them back.
savanah hernandez
You know, I would say... Sorry, go ahead, Jen.
tim pool
I was gonna say, the other big news is that Dole Mulvaney hasn't posted anything since the 7th.
savanah hernandez
That's interesting.
tim pool
Right, Dylan was posting almost every day, or every other day, and just stopped posting when this whole thing kicked off.
So, I just want to say, like, I think Dylan Mulvaney is a person who doesn't have anyone who cares about them, and that deeply worries me.
Like, anybody who is in Dylan Mulvaney's life would be saying, stop this.
This is not acceptable, it's not okay.
They're being driven by the TikTok algorithm into Like, look, Dylan Mulvaney came out in an interview and said, how come no one's messaging me to date?
Like, clearly, the machine is pushing Dylan in a direction that regular people are not interested in, and the people who love and care about Dylan, or maybe there's nobody, are not doing anything to help Dylan with.
savanah hernandez
I mean, Mulvaney was even just interviewed in that article where, you know, she was talking about... I don't think Dylan Mulvaney is trans.
Yeah, yeah.
That's what I... Sorry, I don't know what we're allowed to say here.
This isn't my YouTube channel, so I'm just trying to be extra safe here.
tim pool
Well, let me just say it real quick so you can make your point.
Dylan Mulvaney does not, in my view, I'm not a doctor, exhibit any of the traditional gender dysphoria or AGP or AAP, which is what is typically associated with transgenderism, publicly.
Dylan Mulvaney made a video singing about looking at his bulge, which is clearly the opposite of AGP or gender dysphoria.
It seems like Dylan Mulvaney is just mocking trans people to get views because the algorithm keeps promoting it.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, I mean, look, I think when you have a giant marketing firm that throws somebody like this out into the public eye, the public absolutely has the right to comment on it and the public absolutely has the right to say what they think is despicable about it.
That said, I do feel bad.
I mean, I feel bad for him because this is someone who's clearly Got something wrong with them.
This is not normal healthy behavior in general.
tim pool
Well, I think... I gotta say I half agree.
seamus coughlin
Okay.
tim pool
But continue.
seamus coughlin
I'm not saying that there's no agency there.
I'm saying someone has something wrong with them and you made this point about no one being in their life who cares about them.
I remember a long time ago...
I had a friend who was watching some of these American Idol cringe compilations where someone who is really bad at singing is intentionally selected to be on the show so they can sing poorly and the audience can laugh.
tim pool
That's how it works?
seamus coughlin
And that's, yeah, what he said was, I don't think these people have anyone in their life who loves them.
And that's...
Essentially what we're seeing.
They're not enough to give the truth.
tim pool
For the American Idol thing, and it's in so many other facets of life, there are people who are, they genuinely think their friend can sing.
They're like, you're so good, you should go.
Yeah, and then they go.
And so I've had friends who've tried it for American Idol, and when they explained to me the process, they were like, oh, like all the bad singers you see, Half the time, they're not even in the room with the judges.
What they'll do is they'll record the bad singers in front of a camera, and then they do a cut that makes it look like the judges are in the same room, but they're not.
They're watching a video screen of it.
But sometimes they are, and that means that the producers go to the bad singers and say, we want you to sing in front of the judges.
It's intentionally done.
I think for Dylan Mulvaney, You said there's something wrong with him.
I think it's total agency.
I think what's wrong with Dylan is narcissistic personality disorder.
I think everything that Dylan is doing is an active choice to pretend to be trans.
And there's more evidence to suggest that Dylan is faking it.
Olly London has produced previous interviews and recordings showing that Dylan Mulvaney has lied about when he was transitioning.
And other trans people have come out on YouTube videos saying Dylan is clearly not taking estrogen, despite saying on two different occasions that he had started taking it at two different times.
So not only does he contradict himself, but these other trans YouTubers have said it doesn't look like he's even taking estrogen at all based on his body.
hannah claire brimelow
It makes it even more bizarre to me because Dylan did undergo serious plastic surgery, right?
tim pool
Like, it makes this- I think that was just societal pressure to be quite honest with you.
Apparently, I don't know if this is true, but people have pointed out that Dylan did not get facial hair removal.
Just facial slimming, which is more easily reversed.
Meaning, if Dylan ever decided just to go about living not as a woman or whatever, or doing this publicly, Dylan would very quickly look male again.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, but what if this is over?
Like, this Bud Light or Budweiser thing came out to mark 365 days of girlhood, right?
This one-year mark is when all of this happened.
What if In another week, Dylan comes out and is like, I tried it, but you guys are so hateful, I'm just going to go live as a man, and you guys are bigoted and terrible.
savanah hernandez
But see, he can't at this point.
The corporations are taking full advantage of him.
But no one's going to want to touch him at this point.
Right, but Tim brought up the point that he hasn't posted in, what, three weeks?
tim pool
Since the 7th.
savanah hernandez
So it's been a while like you said he was consistently posting but I what I view with this whole entire thing is again corporations taking advantage of mentally ill people and I don't say that in you know like I mean yeah in a disparaging way I'm not trying to be hateful here when I say that but yeah very clearly if you are cross-dressing if you think that this is how women behave if you think that this is normal behavior in society And a lot of people do because we've hyped it up instead of telling people the truth, which is why you have all of those viral clips of Matt Walsh and Michael Knowles when they do speak to transgender people because they're very clearly telling them the truth, and the transgender community can never argue their points properly as to what it does feel like to be a woman.
I can't even explain what it feels like to be a woman, and I am a woman because it's not a feeling.
It's something that you're born with, right?
tim pool
You're either a man or a woman.
There's no reference point.
savanah hernandez
Yeah, exactly.
And so this is just corporations taking full advantage of easily manipulated people.
Tim, I was talking with you about the United Airlines transgender that was platformed, given all of the affirmation, put into an advertisement, and ended up offing themselves because of I don't know, whatever pressure.
And you know, I was actually in front of SCOTUS for the Trans Day of Vengeance that got cancelled as well.
I was speaking to a transgender woman who was basically saying, oh yeah, I self-harm to get attention because I want to be visible and that's why the trans community commits self-harm.
tim pool
I think this is one of the big issues with what we're seeing with Dylan Mulvaney.
First, that what I see in Dylan Mulvaney is narcissistic sociopathy, not gender dysphoria.
When the people who are experiencing gender dysphoria, they're not doing what Dome Mulvaney
does dancing around in the woods in high heels and singing, Look at my bulge over and over again,
and keeping facial hair and other things like that. Well, and what's what's happening is
these big tech platforms, like Jack Dorsey said all those years ago, were concerned about suicide
rates. So they started offering up social media protections for these people, which was then
quickly exploited by people who want fame and attention but don't want to get any penalties.
So let me explain it this way.
If you post right-wing memes on social media, let's say before Elon Musk bought Twitter, you were banned.
Carpe Donctum was banned and broke no rules, but you don't post those memes!
So how do you exploit human emotion for clicks and views and avoid getting banned?
You do it from the left.
The easiest path is exactly what Dylan Mulvaney is doing.
The algorithm proves it.
When you look at Dylan's earliest content, it was animals, it was Dylan on the Price is Right, and then when Dylan made a trans video, boom!
That's when he started getting traffic, started getting fame, and he chased after it.
savanah hernandez
Well, remember the video too that came out where he was like, oh, I can't find any roles as, uh, I can't even remember what he said, but he was basically like, oh, my friend wrote a role for me as a more like trans feminine person.
And, you know, again, like he has been trying to adhere to this.
He did find fame in this and it does seem like he has stuck to this and he is really, uh, you know, taking it as far as he can.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I think the issue with that was that, uh, Dylan had previously said, I guess one thing I'll say about this is that I don't even like being exposed to this.
The fact that kids are exposed to this is what bothers me.
like it was a fake coming out.
seamus coughlin
I guess one thing I'll say about this is that I don't even like being exposed to this.
The fact that kids are exposed to this is what bothers me.
tim pool
That's TikTok.
The most.
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
So do we ban TikTok?
So the legislation that Republicans were pushing to ban TikTok, from what I understand, did
some other things that we might not be in love with.
But I think that there is a real question to explore there about banning TikTok.
I would not be against it on principle, but you'd have to show me good legislation.
hannah claire brimelow
I'm for it.
I really am for it.
I think the legislation is... How do we do it is the issue, but I think it is a good idea.
seamus coughlin
I think we should, yeah.
But you would have to give me something that really banned it instead of lying to me.
savanah hernandez
If we look at what TikTok really is, it's China subverting our country.
That is what it is, point blank.
Again, you guys have talked about this multiple times.
What are the children in China targeted with on TikTok versus the children in the United States of America?
It's like night and day.
So it is the subversion of the country.
Let's clarify.
tim pool
They don't actually have TikTok in China.
They have something similar called something else.
savanah hernandez
And it does But owned by the same company that owns TikTok, right?
tim pool
I'm not entirely sure.
Maybe, maybe.
seamus coughlin
I just know that... Well, aren't all companies in China basically controlled by the CCP anyway?
hannah claire brimelow
So it's... Well, that's why we got this wave between like November and January, this wave of like 25 governors who were like, you are not allowed to have TikTok on a state-owned device because part of the user agreement is that it can collect all this data, including whatever else you have on your computer, like your browsing data and things like that.
So like, if you are a government employee and you have some sort of Like, someone who works at the DMV, right?
And they're pulling up whatever, and then they decide to watch TikTok on their computer.
Like, they have now exposed your data to this company that has to report data to the CCP under a 2017 national intelligence law.
unidentified
Yeah.
Wow.
hannah claire brimelow
Like, I don't really think that we need this.
And I know people say, like, oh, free speech, things like that.
Like, build a competitor.
Have something else.
Like, I'm not saying you can't say the things that you say on TikTok.
I just don't want that technology that is serving a different entity.
It's not serving the people of the United States.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, well also freedom of speech does not mean that foreign adversaries are able to collect data on all of your intelligence officials and your government and your citizens.
savanah hernandez
But see, the problem is our own corrupt government that is, instead of fixing the subversion by the Chinese problem, is instead saying, here's the Patriot Act 2.0.
We are going to instead fix this problem, use it to further come down on your constitutional rights.
So classic government once again.
tim pool
Let's talk about things that we can do.
Let me pull up this story from the New York Post.
Bud Light suffers staggering 17% sales plunge amid Dylan Mulvaney controversy.
The latest sales data from Nielsen IQ and Bump Williams Consulting show that Bud Light sales fell 17% in dollars while volume dropped a whopping 21%.
Wow, wow, wow.
Yo, this has got some feathers ruffled up.
YouTube started taking down videos and this is what I said.
My opinion on the matter, opinion, is that the sales decline was bad and Anheuser-Busch got angry and went to YouTube and said, why are we advertising on your platform if it is loaded with people ragging on us?
And so I think Bud Light was like, take these videos down.
YouTube took down what they could.
They didn't issue any strikes on channels.
Why?
That would cost them even more money.
I think we're going to see that in the next report, it's going to be comparable in terms of sales decline, and then the sales decline will reduce.
Let me explain.
In the first week, when sales declined, it was like, I think, 8% or something.
So if they've got 100, let's just do a hypothetical number, 100 units of beer sold this week.
Drops by 8%, now it's 92.
week it goes from 92 to let's just say I don't know 81 and they report the drop
now is 10% but it's still around the same amount of beers a little bit more.
What's gonna happen is if they declined by 21 beers this past week when the same
number of beers decline it's a it's going to be a actually I think I got the
math wrong my point is it's going to look like the decline is is easing off
because the boycott will reach a point that it's enough of the market shares
If 20% of people no longer buy beer, then Bud Light's market cap will drop by 20% and stay there.
And once it stabilizes 20% lower, they will say the boycott's over, the decline in sales has ended, despite the fact what really happened is no one is coming back to buy their beer.
savanah hernandez
Yeah, right, right.
And you know what?
I will say too, I actually am proud of the right wing for You know sticking it Sennheiser Bush and actually sending this message because typically in the past I feel like we get angry about things but we're internet warriors and that's about it so I mean seeing the pushback on this has been great and I think it has sent a message to a lot of other corporations as well and they're gonna start being more careful about what they're advertising.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, so I actually did a cartoon about this a while ago called What the Media Thinks Right-Wingers Are vs. What They Actually Are, and the joke we were basically making with it—you know, you can go feel free to check that out, Freedom Tunes—but the point we were making with the video is they paint conservatives out to be this highly motivated terror threat when conservatives can't even get people to boycott things.
It's like, yes, I'm going to give my life in a fiery blaze to commit an act of terror.
And then it's like, hey, how about we like don't eat the cupcake brand that just issued a commercial, which was just two dudes making out.
It's like, but I like the cupcakes.
And then we see with this, fortunately, my expectations being subverted and conservatives actually doing something.
hannah claire brimelow
I think part of it, I mean, I wonder if part of it is that so many people who identify as, you know, as their former marketing person said, like, as the fratty, humored, kind of regular guy felt not only isolated from this, but then attacked, right?
I am wrong for not supporting this.
I think that is isolating its base in a way that doesn't make any sense.
I think it's harder for conservatives to find a unifying product to boycott, right?
Like, maybe they don't buy the cupcakes already.
Like, this was something that people who probably felt specifically attacked were like, I'm done.
savanah hernandez
See, I don't think that they felt attacked.
I think that this is like the sports issue where men are like, we don't give a damn about this to be quite honest.
Stop trying to come in with the LGBTQ nonsense.
I'm just trying to watch the NFL.
I'm just trying to drink a beer.
Why is this getting so out of hand?
hannah claire brimelow
But they keep buying NFL tickets, like they still go even though all this happened.
don lemon
Because they like sports.
unidentified
Right.
Yeah.
tim pool
Check this out, check this out.
So, for anyone who's claiming it's not true, Bud Light's competitors are going up.
While Bud Light lost 6.7% of market share last week, Coors and Miller Light are up 18% according to the newsletter.
A week earlier, Coors Light market share was up 10.6% over the same period.
Miller Light was up 11.5%.
I just... I'd love to see it!
Shout out to Jesse Kelly because we mention this every time we bring this story up.
He said it's the first time his neighbors asked him about politics, the Dylan Wolvaine
thing.
I think there might be something to it where you've got dudes who feel uncool to buy Bud
Light at this point.
And so let's break this down in terms of marketing terms.
Let's pull out of politics.
The sponsorship of Dylan Wolvaine created the perception that the beer was for young
effeminate men.
So, already, you've got this trope where if you're drinking Bud Light, you're not manly.
I mean, I don't know about you guys, but back in Chicago, if you went to a bar with your friends in order to Bud Light, they would laugh.
savanah hernandez
Yeah, I was gonna say, I felt like that perception was already there, but I guess we are.
seamus coughlin
They'd punch you in the back of the head because you ordered a Bud Light.
tim pool
Bud Light was for when you're just trying to get drunk at a party and nobody cared.
But if you were actually gonna have a beer to hang out at the game, they'd be like, you bought Bud Light?
Like, dude, get Modelo at least.
I mean, it's another Anheuser-Busch beer, but get like a real beer.
Get Heineken or get Stella or something, but Bud Light?
So now, you've got dudes who are going to show up to the party and they're going to be like, I don't want to.
It's going to be embarrassing.
They've basically made it embarrassing for men to drink beer with this marketing campaign.
savanah hernandez
I think it's funny too because the boys always love banding together over stuff that they deem gay.
Not saying, you know, I just, I think that this is great.
tim pool
It's 40 year old men who don't want to look gay in the literal sense.
They don't want to be viewed as weak or effeminate.
seamus coughlin
I don't drink Bud Light or anything.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, they don't want to subtly signal they're, like, affiliated with this in any way, right?
If you offered someone who came to your home, like, if you have a co-worker you're inviting over, you don't know them well, and you're like, can I give you a Bud Light?
No one wants to be a lady.
tim pool
This is the meme they've created.
This is the meme Bud Light created with sponsoring Dylan Mulvaney.
Guys, like, you are already seeing the left champion Bud Light, and the right say Bud Light's bad, so what's going to happen is you are going to have people at Pride parades cracking Bud Light.
And it's a whirlpool for Anheuser-Busch.
There is no escape for what you have done to your brand.
The left will champion Bud Light.
It will be the markings of gay pride parades, of pride nights, and conservatives and regular people are going to be like, I don't want to do all that.
So they went from being a generic alcohol get drunk beer to a leftist activist political brand that people aren't going to want to associate with.
hannah claire brimelow
I will say I don't drink beer, really, but I hit a point where I was like, I have to know how to order, like, I have to have a brand name to say when somebody says, do you want a beer?
And I pretty much always order Yinglings because I know they donated to Donald Trump's campaign.
I was like, good enough, here we go.
I'm not enough of an acquired taste to be able to scrutinize it.
I don't know if it's good or bad beer.
It's fine.
And it doesn't immediately, like, I don't, I know that I am supporting a cause that I'm at least pretty much okay with, right?
Like, I wouldn't buy these beers because now it's affiliated with A whole conversation I don't want to be a part of.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, if I'm getting like a cheap, light beer, then Yingling's my go-to for that exact reason.
tim pool
But is Yingling really light?
It's not really that light.
seamus coughlin
Well, to me it is.
tim pool
Why?
Were you like Old English or like Guinness?
seamus coughlin
Well, well...
unidentified
Double IPA?
seamus coughlin
Who drinks IPA?
Guinness is good though.
tim pool
Who drinks IPA?
seamus coughlin
Hold on, you said Guinness.
I do have, I'll have an IPA sometimes.
Guinness is good though.
Guinness is some of the stoutest.
tim pool
I just want to see this.
I'm not a beer guy.
hannah claire brimelow
I just want this summer to be like the summer of the small brewery.
Like everyone's like, I can't buy Bud Light.
Okay, I'm going to get that like one that's on the corner.
Like my friend's buddy bottles it.
tim pool
I ordered, I think I ordered while we were live, 600 cans of Conservative Dad's Ultra
Right beer.
savanah hernandez
Nice.
Nice.
tim pool
That's what it's called.
seamus coughlin
He just Googled Conservative Beer and you're like, that's the one?
tim pool
No, no, it's Seth Weathers.
He put a video on Twitter where he smashed a Bud Light with a baseball bat and said, stay the eff away from our kids.
savanah hernandez
We should have just been like, this beer's full of testosterone.
seamus coughlin
I remember, yeah, I don't know who, again, it was a stupid marketing campaign because it's also not like, like you said, because Bud Light went from a kind of meaningless name, you know, I just want something cheap, into like this is, no one was like, yeah, that's my brand of beer.
tim pool
I remember when... That's why their sales are dropping.
There's no loyalty to Bud Light.
seamus coughlin
Exactly.
Well, you... Exactly.
Exactly.
savanah hernandez
Okay, wait.
I got to interject.
I got to interject.
seamus coughlin
I'm sorry to cut you off, but I feel like in hockey... Am I being woman-interrupted?
You are.
savanah hernandez
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm using my privilege to speak over you.
I feel like in hockey culture, Bud Light is a big thing, but also take a peek at who is pushing back against the Pride Knights right now.
It's hockey players.
Yeah, specifically.
So Bud Light is big in hockey, but hockey is also the most outspoken against the LGBTQ nonsense.
hannah claire brimelow
Right, and a lot of places like the hockey arena is just like a sports arena.
They just put down the ice, you know, that's how it is in Dallas.
I think that is what I'm finding most interesting because when they're saying the volume, like what people are ordering going down, it means that certain restaurants or like No, they are not going to be able to sell the stuff, so they're not even going to order it.
And that's pretty crazy, but it makes sense, because why would you waste your money on it?
seamus coughlin
Well, and so, I guess my point was just that I used to see it like, okay, you have the very, very low tier where you're dealing with like Rolling Rock and Keystone, and then slightly above that is sort of where Bud Light is, but now Bud Light's just below all of it for me.
I'm never, ever drinking it again.
tim pool
Look, I wouldn't drink Bud Light.
Like, I'm not gonna drink Coors Light or Miller Light or Miller or Budweiser.
I've just always viewed them as, like, generic garbage beer.
Who do you think you are?
savanah hernandez
I'm already seeing the videos on Instagram, too, because I don't have TikTok, but I'll see, like, the TikToks that get posted on Instagram of men, like, doing blind beer taste tests, and they drink all of them, and they guess them, and then they get to Bud Light.
they talk in this like really effeminate voice.
And they're getting like millions of likes.
So yeah, it's really funny.
tim pool
They destroyed their brand.
savanah hernandez
They really did.
People are making fun of it all the time.
And it's all these men, like they drink a Bud Light and they're, they immediately, and it's just, it's
hilarious.
tim pool
Dude, and so the question is, is anyone going to want to sponsor Dylan Mulvaney after
this?
This is the algorithmic mistake.
Dylan Mulvaney's popularity is completely rooted in a robot randomly choosing Dylan Mulvaney videos to show, the big brands then saying, this gets views, sponsor it, and now their brand is ruined.
savanah hernandez
I think they will, because there's a lot of brands, like Nike, which conservatives were so mad at Dylan Mulvaney for having the- I thought we were mad about Colin Kaepernick.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah because we tried to boycott that once upon a time and then we fell off the wagon.
savanah hernandez
We were supposed to be mad about uh you know Nike enslaving children and then using the child labor for to make uh you know their products but Dylan Mulvaney is why we're mad at Nike.
It's like conservatives have the memory of a goldfish I'm not gonna I'm not gonna lie to you guys but anyways the companies that are already all in on DEI and are already woke and know that they're I guess their customer base is going to be more behind them because they're supporting a Dylan Mulvaney type who's been demonized by the evil right wing.
I could see that happening.
hannah claire brimelow
Exactly.
tim pool
Yeah, but small brands.
savanah hernandez
No, yeah, no, of course not small brands.
tim pool
No, I'm saying small brands.
No big brand is going to do it.
seamus coughlin
No, I think it's literally, sorry, I think it's literally all gonna be what you said, which is these brands that have carved themselves out in the market as a progressive option, and they're gonna go, can you believe how people treated that poor Dylan?
That sweet, angelic soul.
And they'll put him all over their branding, and then they'll be the ones who save Dylan once Bud Light turned their back.
tim pool
People are saying to boycott Maybelline and Nike and all that stuff, and it doesn't work the same way.
because women want to look like Dylan Mulvaney.
seamus coughlin
No.
That is not true.
Hold on.
No, no, no, no, no.
unidentified
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
tim pool
If I was wrong, if I was wrong, women would be boycotting all these products, but they're not.
savanah hernandez
No.
tim pool
So, so hold on, hold on.
So I'm gonna make sure I tell all of these feminists who are defending Nike and Budweiser, I'm gonna tell them, well, you know what?
You do look a lot like Dylan Mulvaney, so, you know, it must be, look- And if they're insulted by that, that is on them.
That's my point.
seamus coughlin
They're a transphobe.
tim pool
I think part of it- My point is this, they're not offended.
They have a man, you see the ad campaign of the guy wearing a bra and panties?
seamus coughlin
No.
savanah hernandez
Oh gosh, that was horrible.
tim pool
It's a man wearing a bra, and it's a company, it's like, they announced they're gonna make bras for males.
And then all these women are like- They're like, yes, queen!
Men don't need bras though.
Like, men don't need bras.
Like, they don't have boobs.
But they're doing it anyway.
Women, overwhelmingly, are more in favor of these political views and these things.
savanah hernandez
Yeah, because we're more emotional, absolutely.
We're easily moved.
tim pool
So it may be that conservative women don't want to look like Dylan Mulvaney, and it may be that, privately, these liberal men don't want to look like Dylan Mulvaney, but they clearly really do resonate and support Dylan, so I think it's a compliment to tell them they do look like Dylan Mulvaney.
savanah hernandez
Well, you know that liberal women lie to themselves and that's their entire persona.
So, of course, they would say, yeah, I want to look like Dylan Mulvaney.
hannah claire brimelow
And it's virtue signaling, right?
savanah hernandez
Exactly.
hannah claire brimelow
They want to seem like they're the most accepting.
savanah hernandez
I feel like I'm a Dylan Mulvaney accelerationist, though, because the feminists are starting to get pissed off now.
And I'm like, yeah, accelerate, go into our bathrooms, take over our sports.
How bad does it need to get?
And it is getting bad and people are finally waking up.
But it does take The average person being personally affected, which maybe there were a lot of Bud Light drinkers, and that was them being personally affected, and that's why it was such a big campaign.
But yeah, it does need to get worse.
So I'm kind of a Mulvaney accelerationist, to be quite honest with you.
seamus coughlin
It's very bizarre.
Because of feminism and because of the disunity between the sexes we see as a result of quote-unquote sexual liberation, women are taught by this culture to be relentlessly critical of men until that man puts a dress on.
And then you just have to gush about everything they do.
And you see this, you guys were mentioning earlier, they want to claim that they see this person as pretty, but they don't just say pretty.
unidentified
It's the most beautiful woman I've ever seen!
seamus coughlin
And they're all over the top and losing their minds over how beautiful they are.
Queen status!
Exactly.
This is clearly so put on.
tim pool
Is there something to women wanting to submit?
Is that the argument you're making?
seamus coughlin
Is it built into the female nature or something?
tim pool
What I'm saying is that the argument is women are saying two men are more beautiful than us, are better at sports than us, and it's okay and acceptable.
savanah hernandez
It's not a submission thing.
It's a fact that women as a whole are not naturally combative.
So if a man comes into the space and says, I'm a woman now, I'm better than you, and I'm going to take away your rights, by the way, and if you combat me, you're a bigot and you're getting cancelled, the average woman is not going to push back.
They're going to be like, ooh, yeah, uh, okay.
seamus coughlin
But no, that's for a submission.
But yes, exactly, to not be combative is to be more naturally submissive.
hannah claire brimelow
I think that's part of it.
I also think that because women are more emotional and they're guided to do things, like, it makes me think about, like, I don't even think this happens to middle school boys or middle school boys at all, but girls are like, don't gang up on other girls.
Be nice to them.
Like, be inclusive.
Because they go through a really terrible catty phase.
It's part of their neurological development.
But it means that when Dylan Mulvaney is like, I'm a girl, women are conditioned to be like, Great.
Like, we're supposed to be nice and accept you.
We're supposed to tolerate this.
We're supposed to be welcoming and inclusive.
Like, these sort of progressive emotional appeals really reach women because women are already conditioned to live in a more emotional place than men, which can be beneficial to society.
But in this case, it's basically them getting taken advantage of, right?
They're being manipulated by this person who does not have True ties to their community and they are not willing to oust him.
seamus coughlin
Oh my god.
tim pool
I scared you.
seamus coughlin
I'm sorry.
hannah claire brimelow
That's okay.
savanah hernandez
That's how mad she is about Dylan.
seamus coughlin
I know.
She's so angry.
unidentified
I shocked the UFO out of circulation.
seamus coughlin
I think part of what happens too is women want to support femininity and they're confused about exactly what's going on.
If I Cheer on the trans women.
Am I supporting femininity?
Or am I supporting men taking things that are meant for women?
And that's sort of where the delineation is between most feminists and then what they call TERFs.
tim pool
But it could just be that women tend to be more collectivist than men.
savanah hernandez
They absolutely are.
Look at the fat acceptance movement.
I went to Victoria's Secret the other day.
There was a morbidly obese model modeling the underwear up front.
And it's like, okay, why are we platforming somebody who's clearly unhealthy?
hannah claire brimelow
Have you ever seen one of those advertisements where they're like, Any type of body.
And then you go to look at the product and you're like, I don't think I want to buy this thing because it doesn't look good.
Like, there is a reason that you pick attractive people to model clothing.
It makes you think, oh, this might look nice.
Like, I can't tell if this looks good at all because this person is not in a position to model.
tim pool
It's all politics nowadays, though.
Right?
So Bud Light went political and they've just turned their brand into the left-wing brand.
And now people on the right don't want to buy it.
seamus coughlin
Well, it's...
Complicated, though, because one thing I've noticed with women in this culture, and with just the fall in human nature, you know, men and women are different, we have different strengths and weaknesses, and one thing you see with women, and I don't know if this is cultural or if this is biological, but they often will scorn other women for making choices that help them to better themselves, and they will cheer other women on when they do things that are self-destructive.
So when a woman posts, exactly, a woman posts, I've been working out, I look better than I ever looked, have looked in my entire life, and especially if she says she's doing this to make her husband happy, she is torn to shreds.
But when a woman says, I am sleeping around and getting as out of shape as possible because who cares, and just choosing the immediate short term, there's going to be so many women in the comment section clapping for her, whereas they tear down women who are trying to build themselves up.
It's a very sad thing.
hannah claire brimelow
I don't think it's who cares.
It's because I love myself.
I want to live this way.
I want to live under self-indulgent.
savanah hernandez
I personally feel like it's not necessarily I think that it's a generational issue and I think this is what happens when third wave feminism opened the door to being like women need to compete with men in a platform in a lot of ways that are unhealthy them like the reason that the transgender movement is overwhelmingly the appeal is towards women is because they're saying like after so many years of saying like you have the same quality as men so therefore you should get to be in the workforce we are saying the same thing we have the same quality as women so let us into your bathroom well see and i think one of the best points that continues to drive this home is the fact that men
Are not dealing with women in their spaces, taking over their spaces, and again that does go into our gender role, that does go into emotionally and biologically just how women respond to things.
We are more easily manipulated.
That's been seen time and time again.
And on top of that, like, add to the point that we are a culture that is already, you know, via the education system, trained to be subservient, trained to listen to the authorities.
When you have corporations, politicians, the entire government backing transgenderism and saying that if you come out against it, that you're a horrible, awful person, that you're a bad Christian.
We even have churches coming forward now and, you know, pushing this ideology that is inherently anti-biblical.
hannah claire brimelow
Twisting their own theology.
savanah hernandez
Exactly.
hannah claire brimelow
Or just throwing it out.
savanah hernandez
And then the average woman just goes along and says, OK, well, I don't want to be combative of this.
And, you know, like you said, we also have a lack of strong men in society that are willing to put women in their place.
And that might be like a very, you know, brash thing to say, but I think that's where we're at right now.
tim pool
I disagree.
There's tons of strong men that are willing to put women in their place and they're on the left.
These corporate executives are telling women what to like and what to buy, and the women are saying yes, and they're buying it, and they tend to be male executives, and the right— Look, I'll tell you this.
We have women come on this show, and conservative women will say, repeal the 19th Amendment.
Where do you stand, Hannah Clayburn, on repealing the 19th Amendment?
hannah claire brimelow
I'd be for it, but I don't trust the men in this generation, so it's hard to say.
tim pool
Where are you on removing women's right to vote?
savanah hernandez
I've looked at the demographics, and if I had to give up my one vote to 100 psychopathic, emotional, manipulated women couldn't vote, then I would.
tim pool
And it's always the conservative guys who go, no, no, women should vote, women should vote.
My point is, on the right, the guys are saying, well, women can choose what they want to choose.
On the left, they're saying, look at this picture of a man in a bra.
That's what women should look like.
And women go, okay.
seamus coughlin
Well, but I think, let me analogize this further, all right?
It's that the men are abdicating, and then the women are speaking to the serpent, right?
And this goes back to Genesis.
The serpent didn't go to Adam, it went to Eve.
And Adam abdicated by not saying, why is my wife talking to a snake?
tim pool
Talking to a snake is fine!
seamus coughlin
Yeah, exactly.
hannah claire brimelow
I don't want to be controlling.
I don't want to be in her business.
seamus coughlin
And so that's what we see, where they are telling women to do something that will not make women happy and to do things that won't make them happy, and then men aren't there to say, don't listen to that idiot.
Don't do that.
tim pool
Afterwards, Eve made that TikTok about being in a polycule with a snake.
seamus coughlin
Stop it.
hannah claire brimelow
No, I think it's right, though.
I think it's not just even men, like, I think women could be more honest with each other, right?
savanah hernandez
Yes.
hannah claire brimelow
If you didn't comment on that video, oh my gosh, you look amazing!
unidentified
Yay!
hannah claire brimelow
Like, you would not be contributing to this group delusion that we're all entering into, right?
savanah hernandez
And I want to clarify, too, about my put women in their place comment.
hannah claire brimelow
I thought it was great.
savanah hernandez
I think that, like you said, If you have a group of women and you have one man that comes in and says, no, that's dumb, that's stupid, the entire group of women is going to be like, oh, is it stupid?
You know?
hannah claire brimelow
I worked in an all-female office once.
We had to interview for a new candidate and someone was like, oh, guys, we've got these resumes and maybe we should interview this man.
And the head of the office was like, no, we don't want to interview a man.
I don't want a man here.
Because it was, like, chaotic.
It's terrible working in an all-female office.
savanah hernandez
Yeah, I could imagine.
tim pool
I think if the man was attractive, the woman might behave that way.
A thousand percent, yeah.
If the women were of the collective opinion the man was desirable, they would be competing for him.
And if they're of the collective opinion that the man is undesirable, they would be like, ew, no, I'm not gonna listen to that guy.
I think women more so do things for themselves than they do for men, right?
Like, the saying is, women wear makeup for women, not for men.
Women get dressed up for women, not for men.
There's that famous tweet where a woman said, male privilege is being able to wear the same clothes every day without anyone criticizing you, and a guy responded with, that's women criticizing you, literally no man cares if you wear the same cute dress twice.
seamus coughlin
Ever.
Ever.
tim pool
Right.
Women do all of this for other women, not for men.
seamus coughlin
The only kind of man who cares is generally not attracted to women.
And you see that a lot.
They talk about the unfair standards that the fashion industry places on women.
It's like, yes, the fashion industry is notorious for testosterone-filled, heterosexual men being in control of everything and all the fashion trends.
Of course.
Yeah.
tim pool
So I think when it comes to the guy who comes in and says something, the real question is not the guy, it's whether the women agree among themselves that the guy is an authority or isn't an authority, is attractive or isn't attractive.
hannah claire brimelow
So if they respect him and not find him interesting.
tim pool
If a chiseled six-foot-three guy came in and the women all were just like, he is bad for this reason, then they would be like, ew, no, yeah, I agree, he's bad.
And if he was really nasty and ugly, this is why left-wing guys are the way they are and right-wing guys are the way they are.
seamus coughlin
Well, I would add something else, though.
I think that if a man is really disciplined, the women will respect him for it.
And that's something people miss.
It's not just about height or appearance or weight.
There's something, too.
Okay, this is someone I actually know can get things done and lead me.
tim pool
I don't know if I agree completely.
I think social pressure is the biggest factor for most humans on most things.
Men tend to be more disagreeable, and that's gonna result in them being more individualist, and women tend to be more agreeable, meaning they're gonna be more collectivist.
hannah claire brimelow
I think that makes it so... Sorry.
seamus coughlin
Hold on.
This is... Hold on a second.
We're talking about male-female dynamics and you're trying to interrupt me here?
hannah claire brimelow
I would just say... Yes, explain women to me, Shannon.
seamus coughlin
Yes, I'm going to.
There is an in-built social pressure.
There's social pressure, but there's an in-built social pressure.
And what a lot of people don't recognize is that authority is not external.
It's actually built into human beings.
have a desire based on our biology and innate understanding that certain people are supposed
to be in charge in certain situations and we look for different traits that would indicate that that
person should be in charge in any given context. And so women will look to men to make decisions
hannah claire brimelow
or be the authority on things very often. Right. I also think if you have an unmarried woman whose
like life revolves around her social circle, so her friends, in order to get her to move away
from that into marriage and whatever else, she has to really trust you and respect you.
The things that women need to leave the social collective are a strong, secure man who they can rely on.
They won't do it otherwise.
That's why we have a lot of dysfunctional relationships because people are in relationships where there's not a balance of benefits.
savanah hernandez
Where the dad's a stay-at-home dad and the mom is bringing home the bacon.
seamus coughlin
Or, well, it's oftentimes, I mean, yes, that is a particularly, let's call it interesting, subversion.
But what happens a lot of the time is women will end up usurping without being able to abdicate, so they will take on male privileges, but also male responsibilities without, like, losing the female responsibilities.
So she's still very much going to be the one dealing with the children and that's because innately women are biologically better predisposed to deal with children.
tim pool
Like they can actually help feed and nourish children.
seamus coughlin
They can feed them with their body.
So the idea that we're just going to do this swap-a-roo where in our relationship it works for him to do the more feminine things and me to do the more masculine things.
No, you're still going to get stuck doing the feminine things because he literally can't do those.
And you can't do the masculine things as well as you think either.
tim pool
Like carrying bricks and stuff.
seamus coughlin
Exactly, exactly.
Like email marketing.
tim pool
Yeah, and firing and fighting bears.
seamus coughlin
Fighting bears, you do need to be able to do that.
Yeah.
tim pool
You know, back in the day you did.
seamus coughlin
You did.
tim pool
Nowadays, not so much.
savanah hernandez
I think the point we're making here, though, is that, again, just the subversion of the gender roles and the complete destruction of those have created such just an unsatisfactory society for everybody involved.
And that's why everything is in such disarray, because I feel like we have gotten so far away from morals, from values, from just being normal people, to be quite honest, to put it plainly.
unidentified
I don't know.
seamus coughlin
Go ahead.
I'll let you go this time.
hannah claire brimelow
Thank you so much for the permission to speak, Seamus.
I am so glad that you're here.
I definitely don't wish it was Tucker Carlson.
You're welcome.
No, I mean, I think part of it is we're asking everyone to go against their natural inclinations and instincts, right?
And so no wonder by the end of this, and like I said, I think it's generational.
I think this has been a pressure cooker for a long time.
By the end, people are like, I don't even really think I'm supposed to be the gender that I was born into, because how do I know I'm supposed to feel anything?
Like, all of my instincts are probably wrong, and they can't see the nuance between, like, you'll hear so often, like, well, our son was really interested in his sister's Barbies.
Maybe he just likes hanging out with his sister.
It doesn't mean that he's a child.
It doesn't mean anything.
And instead, we've made it like we're constantly looking for You know what I realize, though?
They're different and we accept them anyways instead of saying like you're normal and that's actually awesome. I'm
savanah hernandez
so happy that you're normal You know what I realized though in the age of social media
I I honestly think that the transgender and LGBTQ craze is a direct result of the fact
That anybody can get attention on social media nowadays It's very easy.
So now you have to go to much more extreme lengths to get more attention and to be more famous and to be on the top.
And that's why we've also gotten to the point where we've gotten to because people continue to feel the need to compete with who's the coolest, who's the most unique, who's the most extreme.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I need to stand out and I will do anything to do it.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, I think it goes even deeper than that, though.
The first thing I want to say is relevant to the comment you made about people being punished for being natural.
I've noticed this.
So often when someone calls something beast or red-pilled, it's just someone saying something normal.
hannah claire brimelow
Super normal.
seamus coughlin
It's literally just somebody saying something normal and everyone's like, that's beast, bro!
This girl cooked dinner for her husband?
That's so base!
It's like, that's just normal.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, if that makes you happy, I'm glad, but let's just say normal.
seamus coughlin
But beyond that, with what you said, social media is exacerbated, but I think it goes much deeper.
The advent of reliable methods of artificial contraceptive have completely changed society in ways that no one is willing to discuss or account for, because that's It's complete and total self-indulgence culture.
allowed to criticize. But once we removed the purpose of sex from sex, then the purpose of
sex itself, i.e. your biological identity, also stopped having a purpose and started being about
you just the way that sex has. So my biological sex exists for me and my pleasure, so why can't
it be whatever I want it to be? Why does it have to fit into a specific role? Why does there have
unidentified
to be a logos to it? It's complete and total self-indulgence culture. Exactly. Indeed. I think
tim pool
we've got some stories for the members only section and we should carry on that conversation
there because there's a lot more to be said, but probably better off doing that in the not so
family-friendly version of the show.
So, if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button and become a member at TimCast.com, so that at about 10, 10 p.m., we'll do that members-only show.
And if you sign up at the $25 level, or you're signed up for at least six months, you can actually call into the show.
But we're gonna go to super chats right now, so smash that like button!
We're gonna read what you guys have to say.
So before the show started, we got a super chat from Leon Yoder who said, the special guest is Seamus Coghlan.
There was a couple other people who tweeted, when I tweeted we have a special guest tonight, someone was like, it better be Seamus Coghlan.
But everybody was like, Tucker, Elon.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, you know, I'm sorry to disappoint you all.
tim pool
Yeah, it was the best.
I told Allison, I was like, they're gonna be so disappointed.
seamus coughlin
Tim's like, dude, people, I just way overhyped.
You're really gonna have to perform.
I was like, you're such a good friend, Tim.
Thank you.
tim pool
Charlie Duck says, what a crazy day.
I can't believe what's going on.
It is a really crazy day.
Like, the whole day was just nuts.
Like, in my 1pm segment, I'm reading, I'm like, Tucker Carlson is fired!
And then I get a notification right here on the screen from the newsroom saying, Don Lemon fired.
And I was like, what?
And I was laughing live.
I couldn't help it.
I'm just like, this is amazing.
seamus coughlin
The economy's getting really bad.
It's getting laid off.
savanah hernandez
I think there was a CEO of NBC that also got pushed out today, too.
unidentified
And one of the White House policy directors got pushed out, too.
tim pool
And Disney's going to fire like 4,000 people or something.
hannah claire brimelow
It really is spring cleaning.
unidentified
That's what this is.
Wow.
tim pool
Amazing.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
says, Tim, my guy, yo, that was freaking hilarious on your 1 p.m.
segment when you found out little buddy Don Limon got fired.
Hilarious.
Good riddance to him.
Yeah, I was like, I saw the tweet from him because someone posted it and I was like, no, this can't be real.
It was some, like, crudely made meme picture.
And I'm like, is this actually Don Limon?
hannah claire brimelow
He said, Zach, we need verification.
tim pool
And then we like, New York Times, New York Post.
It's like, boom, boom, boom, boom.
I'm like, oh, Wow.
savanah hernandez
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
All right, Mandalore the Mighty says, Shamus is better than Tucker anyway.
seamus coughlin
The left doesn't want you to know this, but Tucker Carlson, while being excellent, is not nearly as good as Shimkast.
It's a fact, you're allowed to say it.
tim pool
Wow.
seamus coughlin
You just heard Tucker Carlson, you should have shut my camera off while I said that so people could think it was him.
tim pool
I do want to point out, I can already tell that our viewers today are like, 30, 40% more on average.
seamus coughlin
Because you deceived them?
tim pool
No, because Tucker Carlson was taken off the air.
savanah hernandez
What else are they gonna watch?
seamus coughlin
Exactly.
tim pool
Yeah, Tucker's gone.
hannah claire brimelow
Look, they should have been watching this the whole time.
No offense to Tucker, but Superior Show.
tim pool
I never said Tucker was coming to the show, Seamus.
You're my special guest.
seamus coughlin
I always am.
tim pool
You've been gone for like a year.
We were so desperate to have you back, we put a potato No, I was like, what is this?
hannah claire brimelow
I think that was a hate crime though.
seamus coughlin
It was a hate crime.
My friend texted me while I was out for St.
Patrick's Day and he said, you're on Timcast.
I was like, what did they do?
savanah hernandez
Just a potato.
seamus coughlin
I looked, I was like, Timcast?
Is this some kind of homage to me?
I was like, oh no, they're just insulting my people on our special day.
tim pool
It was St.
Patrick's Day.
hannah claire brimelow
But despite bullying him, he didn't come back.
He's resilient.
tim pool
I'm Irish.
I'm allowed to put potatoes in chairs.
unidentified
That's the rule.
hannah claire brimelow
I think Ian is also Irish.
I'm also Irish.
seamus coughlin
We're all plastic patties, all right?
None of us are from Ireland.
hannah claire brimelow
I'm also Irish.
seamus coughlin
Oh, cool.
Whatever ethnicity you all are.
unidentified
Joe Biden's Irish.
seamus coughlin
Joe Biden's not Irish because no one in his family's drunk or in jail.
tim pool
That's what he said.
seamus coughlin
That is literally what Joe Biden said.
hannah claire brimelow
I liked when he went to Ireland and was like, I don't want to go back!
And we're like, wait, what?
tim pool
Then he went to Ireland.
seamus coughlin
Dude, this man... No, he was in Ireland.
hannah claire brimelow
He didn't want to go back to the US.
seamus coughlin
This is the thing.
Alright, those are jokes you're allowed to make because the Irish are white.
But they gotta keep a mic out of Joe Biden's hand on Cinco de Mayo or Black History Month.
He's gonna destroy it.
savanah hernandez
And Jill!
hannah claire brimelow
Jill's had a couple scuffles there, right?
savanah hernandez
Throwback to when she called us all tacos.
That was pretty funny.
seamus coughlin
Did she really?
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, in Texas.
It was not good.
savanah hernandez
She went to Texas and she basically implied that Hispanic people were breakfast tacos or something.
I don't know.
Hispanic people got mad about it.
I was just like, it's kind of funny, whatever.
hannah claire brimelow
It was funny, but it was also like both Bidens.
Stop giving them any sort of public speaking engagement.
Difficult when you are the first lady and president.
tim pool
They work for each other because they're rappers.
says Fox has ruined themselves.
Now their late night Gutfeld show is gonna hurt too.
Also it's about time CNN fired that man.
Well, look, I do think Fox News is gonna hurt from this, and I think it's gonna negatively impact a lot of their key
demo viewership substantially.
What's happening is, so it's creating an opportunity for shows like ours to capture that audience, because we have similar conversations that Tucker has.
Hannity does not.
But there are people who probably turn on Tucker, and then it rolls over into Hannity.
I suspect we'll see ratings drop across the board because they did this.
Well, you know, so be it.
Good for them.
unidentified
Do you really think it's going to hurt the Guthold show, though?
tim pool
I certainly think it does, absolutely.
Like I said, people turn on Fox News or Tucker and let it roll.
seamus coughlin
Do you guys remember when Joe Biden said Irish kids are just as sober and just as intelligent as white kids?
I couldn't believe that.
tim pool
Alright.
Uh, Alex says, but for real, should have changed the logo to TuckerCast.
Extra people should be Seamus and Primetime99.
Uh, so I reached out to Tucker Carlson's people and I said, we will, if we have, if Tucker can come on the show, we'll, we'll put up a title card saying TuckerCast IRL.
seamus coughlin
And he said, only if you fire Seamus.
And Tim said, I won't do it.
tim pool
And then they said, absolutely, we can have him there in an hour or so.
And then I said, of course, Seamus will be here.
Then they didn't respond.
And then an hour later, they got back to me and said, I'm sorry, we're not available.
And then wouldn't respond to any more messages.
And I was just like, oh, what did I say?
unidentified
How could you do this to Tim?
seamus coughlin
That's actually not what happened.
I said, tonight, Tim said that Tucker was going to be on.
I said, but tonight's my big night!
And I stomped my foot.
Tim was like, all right, I'll tell them another time.
tim pool
All right, Daniel Trinka says, AB InBev spending more on marketing for other brands like Modelo and the fightin' spirit trying to capture anti-woke money from the uninformed.
Yep, because I wonder how the sales are for Modelo.
Yo, I like Modelo.
unidentified
Yeah, me too.
I love that one.
Yeah, Modelo's good, but Bud is not.
Yeah, Bud Light sucks.
hannah claire brimelow
I've seen enough of the infographics where it's like, It's not just Bud Light, it's also all of these that I think they're fighting an uphill battle.
I think people are more aware than ever, but of course some will sneak through.
seamus coughlin
Well, and this is what's important for you to remember.
Even though I think, yes, a total boycott of Anheuser-Busch would be great, I certainly would advocate for that, and I'm not buying their products anymore.
When people say boycotts don't work because a parent brand only has this sub-brand and the rest aren't effective, what they're missing is a boycott sends the message that the consumers did not like that particular behavior, and so the parent brand knows not to try that with their other brands.
tim pool
Boycott Fox!
seamus coughlin
Yeah, I mean, that's gonna be the easiest boycott of my life, bro.
tim pool
It's the only thing I watched was Tucker.
unidentified
Tucker was the only thing I watched on Fox.
hannah claire brimelow
It's the summer of us watching Rumble and going to local breweries to get beer.
seamus coughlin
What have I ever done differently?
tim pool
When Luke's here, he always, once the show wraps, he always goes and watches Tucker Carlson, which he digitally downloads or whatever, live.
seamus coughlin
and he was getting do you remember when we were in the car together and this is right after the Eminem thing and I kept making I kept doing my Tucker impression Eminem's were and Luke was getting so angry did I was riffing for like a half hour like every every now and when it got a little quieter like The Green M&M is the most attractive thing I've ever seen in my life.
And someone was like, stop it, man!
Tucker's great!
I was like, I love Tucker too, Luke, but you gotta be able to take the jokes.
And we were just riffing on Tucker loving M&M's.
And then... That was a good bit with Bernie.
unidentified
That was a quality segment.
seamus coughlin
Oh, thank you.
unidentified
This is bull!
seamus coughlin
This is bull!
Yeah, if you guys want to watch that cartoon, Tucker gets mad about the M&M's.
That was a fun one.
Tucker cartoons are always fun.
tim pool
And then Ben Shapiro.
seamus coughlin
By the way, the wonderful thing about Luke not being on the show is you still get to hear all of his opinions in the chat because he sits there and cries the entire time about the fact that I'm there instead of him.
Hey Luke, you see that behind me?
You see that behind me?
Look at it.
tim pool
Is Luke in the chat right now?
seamus coughlin
This is conquered land, my friend.
No longer yours.
unidentified
By the way, if a fan... Is that because you took down the American flag to put that up?
seamus coughlin
Listen, I didn't touch anything, but what I am saying is to the wonderful, incredible fans who make these kinds of things, if anyone wants to just make a papal flag and send that in.
tim pool
Potatoes for Seamus says, Seamus, I came out of the potato field to watch you.
Glad you let us away from the mean Luke for the sea of potatoes to the promised land of taters.
seamus coughlin
I did do that, and I appreciate the credit.
Thank you.
tim pool
Luke doesn't even have the decency to super chat.
seamus coughlin
No.
tim pool
He regular chats and then expects me to read him.
seamus coughlin
Well, he's a baby girl.
Hey, well, when I super chatted and you didn't read it when Dr. Paul was on.
tim pool
He said potato people have no souls.
seamus coughlin
See what I mean?
It's like, what is potato people supposed to mean?
That's some kind of dog whistle, right?
He's referring to... Wait a minute, when Luke says potato people, is he talking about Irish people?
Oh, I'm so much more upset with him than I was before.
I thought he was saying something else.
tim pool
Check this out.
PowderPZ says, Alex Jones called Tucker leaving Fox months ago when they stopped him from showing the J6 footage.
Alex Jones was right again.
Wow.
Steve Smith says, I feel bad for Dan Bongino.
Fox is going to lean on him so much in the future.
Dan Bongino's not at Fox anymore.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, he just left recently, right?
tim pool
Last week.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, and they thought it was a result of the Dominion lawsuit, right?
Or settlement?
tim pool
Is that what it is?
hannah claire brimelow
That's a rumor, I didn't get that confirmation.
tim pool
Alright, OwlingDogDesign says, you're all wrong about the older crowd.
I'm older, been watching Tucker and TimCast et al for years.
I'm not aging out of my opinions.
I cancelled Fox News subscription and paid media today.
And paid media today.
Maybe there's a typo in there.
But we're not saying all older crowd.
The fact is Tucker's audience, 3.3 million, only about four or five hundred thousand are in the key demographic, meaning you've got two and a half million people who are older than 55 who watch Tucker Carlson regularly.
Our audience is like 70 to 80 percent uh what is it 24 to 45 so and then we have some like teenage like 18 to 24 and then some 55 plus but it's mostly in the key demo granted we don't get 3 million views we you know we get I think we average like half a million per day on the show, from like 300 and something on YouTube, and then 100 and something on the podcast, and then we get, with the clips, like 800 to a million.
unidentified
I think they mean they did it immediately.
You what?
seamus coughlin
They did it immediately.
unidentified
So as soon as they saw that they cancelled the Fox News subscription.
tim pool
Oh, immediately.
unidentified
Right, right.
tim pool
I see what you're saying.
seamus coughlin
Luke, without super chatting, had the gall to say, Seamus is the older crowd.
He's 50.
Luke, I'm way younger than you.
Hold on, I just turned 28.
He's 50?
tim pool
Yeah, Luke's like 47.
seamus coughlin
Luke's an old man.
Luke is like in his 90s.
Luke is like literally in his 90s.
He's an old man.
tim pool
Carl says, with Fox now out of the way, you can get Tucker on Timcast.
All you gotta do is, if you know Tucker Carlson, tell him we want to have him on the show and we'll get him out of here, I mean.
So my understanding is we reached out to his people, they said they talked to him directly and put in their request and that's all we can do is now go on the show and beg and pray that Tucker will grace us by appearing on the podcast.
Talk about a great show.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, what if he comes on with Elon?
We'll just have a double feature day.
unidentified
It has to be.
Geez.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, if Tucker was here, that would be incredible.
tim pool
So, how do we get Elon and Tucker to be on the same show?
Well, they just did the interview together, I mean, you know.
hannah claire brimelow
Maybe they're on the phone right now, deciding.
They're waiting to be asked together.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, you never know.
They could.
Maybe they're like, I won't do it if Hannah Clare's there, that's for sure.
hannah claire brimelow
Look, I think I would be told, you know, take the night off.
seamus coughlin
I don't think Tim would do that to you.
hannah claire brimelow
I respect the show enough to say, like, if I have to give up my seat for Tucker Carlson and Elon Musk, I'll do it.
seamus coughlin
See what you meant about women being more deferential?
This is... Oh, yeah.
tim pool
Shamus actually threatened me with violence.
That's right.
seamus coughlin
That's why, you know, that's how you get victory.
I'm sorry.
tim pool
Unfortunately, the American military industrial complex is on your side with that one, Shamus.
But, uh, no, no, I think, uh, we've got plenty of seats here.
We've got plenty of seats.
We could, uh, easily, peaceably accommodate our good friends, Elon and Tucker.
Alright, uh, what do we got here?
Rob says, Tim, now is your chance to partner up with some local distilleries that have the same values as us and get your, and get your liquor license.
I'll create an entire cocktail menu inspired by our mutual beliefs of individual freedom.
Chris Carr did that!
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, our editor-in-chief slash head bartender.
tim pool
Yeah, he made a whole big culture war menu and it's actually really good.
unidentified
You should tweet at him and get his recipes.
tim pool
As for local breweries and distilleries, we've been talking to local breweries and we were actually talking with one about doing a signature brew, but we got to get the space up and running.
We got to get a liquor license and then we would have our own signature beer.
That'd be very cool.
What do you call it, though?
We have cast-brew coffee.
What's the other one?
Cast-brew beer.
seamus coughlin
You have to have potato man's lager or something.
tim pool
That's permission to use your likeness.
seamus coughlin
You said it live, so... No, I take it back!
tim pool
You can't do that to me, Tim!
Dr. Seamus Coghlan's hair growth formula and tonic.
seamus coughlin
Oh dude, we should make, we should combine, you should combine for us with Freedom Tunes and have it be Dr. Mac.
Dr. Mac's my news reporter who's basically just my voice and he's a bad Irish person.
tim pool
I think it's funny to have like Dr. Coghlan and a picture of you in an old-timey suit, you know?
Dr. Coghlan's hair growth tonic.
seamus coughlin
Can I have like a monocle?
tim pool
Yes.
seamus coughlin
Perfect.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Alright, let's see.
Captain Caveman says Tucker was obviously fired over the $787 million Dominion settlement.
Maybe.
That may have been a component of it.
I'm not entirely sure, though.
A lot of things, a lot of things.
All right.
Sterling Michael says, any millennials realize that Trump is still Commander-in-Chief by military law?
It's public information.
If you know where to look, that's not true.
Wait, what?
seamus coughlin
First of all, go to patreon.blogspot.wordpress.com and you will see that he is literally still the Commander-in-Chief.
tim pool
Yeah, he's literally not.
He's a private citizen.
seamus coughlin
No, he still is.
That's why January 6th was so horrible, because that's how he kept power of the military.
It was a coup, Tim.
It was an insurrection.
tim pool
It was a Ray Epps insurrection.
seamus coughlin
That's right.
Ray Epps is in charge now.
tim pool
Is that defamation?
I mean, look, people are saying that Ray Epps might sue Fox News, but, like, he's on video saying to go into the Capitol.
seamus coughlin
Well, didn't they say everyone there was an insurrectionist?
I don't understand how you could say that he isn't.
tim pool
But he was the guy who was telling people to do it.
seamus coughlin
No, I know.
tim pool
It's the Ray Epps insurrection.
seamus coughlin
Okay.
But what I'm saying is, yeah, there was no direct quote from Trump.
No one ever said, go on in, do it.
But this guy was telling people to go into the Capitol.
So yeah, you're correct.
If they're going to call it Trump's insurrection... No, it's Ray Epps' insurrection.
No, I know.
But I'm saying if they can get away with calling it Trump's insurrection, then I don't know how you could sue someone for calling it Ray Epps' insurrection.
savanah hernandez
Well, it's because Ray Epps is a fet, so...
seamus coughlin
Yeah, no, exactly.
But the more they try to push this, the more they prove our point.
tim pool
I don't think he's a Fed.
savanah hernandez
You don't think he's a Fed?
tim pool
Nope.
And I think the Fed, it depends on your definition of Fed, and I think they set things up perfectly so that they can sue you if you do something like that.
You, not so much, I mean the rhetorical you, like Fox News is scared.
Interesting.
Because what the feds will do is, they will contract an individual and then if you accuse
the person, he's got the full weight of an infinite backing, infinite cash reserve to
sue you into oblivion and destroy your career.
But we'll see.
You know, they did it to Alex Jones.
We'll see what happens with Fox News and Ray Epps.
But that being said... Luke just called me a fed in chat.
seamus coughlin
That's a lawsuit right there.
That's a lawsuit.
First of all, Luke is big con, right?
Luke is establishment conservatism and I've been trying to tell people from the start, you should see the contract he sent me.
tim pool
Oh yeah?
seamus coughlin
Yeah, absolutely.
I'll show on air.
hannah claire brimelow
I expect a lengthy Twitter thread to follow where you prove this.
seamus coughlin
There will be.
There will be.
hannah claire brimelow
Good.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
Later.
I'm busy.
tim pool
Steve Smith says Don Lemon will end up on ABC News.
You know, I honestly wouldn't doubt that.
hannah claire brimelow
See, but the way that he's talking about getting fired, I wonder if all the networks are like, we don't want him.
He's too difficult to deal with.
savanah hernandez
I mean, NewsNation picked up Cuomo, so... Maybe Lemon has a future there.
tim pool
AmishMan says, I remember the TimCast episode when Seamus said he couldn't do Tucker's voice or Tim's voice, but he was practicing Tucker.
Now he's nailed it.
seamus coughlin
I can do Tucker's voice perfectly.
I don't know if I can do Tim's voice yet either.
tim pool
Can you do Joe Rogan?
seamus coughlin
No, Joe Rogan's voice is too normal.
I can do his speech patterns, kind of.
Joe Rogan, like, pauses and talks like, the thing about that is this.
He totally, like, he'll be thinking and he moves his arm like this.
tim pool
I've never, I've not seen anybody able to impersonate Joe Rogan.
seamus coughlin
Well, it's because of, like, he has certain mannerisms that are easy to pick up, but his voice is so unique that he's really, really hard to do an actual impression of.
It's very hard to do his voice.
I definitely can't.
tim pool
Like Ben Shapiro, Jordan Peterson, they're easy.
seamus coughlin
Nuh-uh, they're really hard.
That's why only I can do them.
tim pool
Oh, okay.
seamus coughlin
Ben Shapiro does a great Joe Rogan impression.
unidentified
Okay, have you tried DMT, gang?
Honestly, this is absolutely amazing.
I saw that the elf people came and took me to another realm.
tim pool
Ben Shapiro impersonating Jordan Peterson impersonating Joe Rogan.
unidentified
It's like if you're not going to embody the archetypal human by taking DMT, you're never going to kill the snake, gang.
tim pool
Alright, alright.
unidentified
You've got to watch Tim Dillon's impersonated Joe Rogan.
tim pool
That one's actually... It's good, he does it.
unidentified
It's good, it's good.
tim pool
Anna P says, what if Tucker goes on CNN?
Also, I'm a member of TimCats, but on YouTube it tells me to become a member.
Any way to combine it?
I use the same email.
No, they're two different things.
So, YouTube membership is something totally different to website membership, and there's no way to combine it.
All right.
Captain Game Man says, Internet killed the primetime news star.
It certainly did.
What do we got?
Publius Valerius says, Valerius says, I support Tucker going to work for CNN and Don working for Fox.
Might as well go full 1984 at this point.
Corporate media is a joke.
Wow.
John Curry says, the only thing better than having Tucker on is having Seamus back.
seamus coughlin
Thank you.
Thank you.
Better than having Tucker on makes me feel pretty good.
hannah claire brimelow
Do you think they're being honest with you?
Do you think that's how they feel?
seamus coughlin
Yeah, of course.
unidentified
Yeah, it is.
seamus coughlin
Why would they?
Did they say anything to indicate that that was not their honest opinion on it?
hannah claire brimelow
It's just interesting that you're trusting.
You believe them.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, well, I think you should give people the benefit of the doubt.
hannah claire brimelow
That's nice of you.
seamus coughlin
Not all of us walk through life like skeptical cynics who doubt everything they see and hear.
Must be lonely.
tim pool
So I pulled the audience a very important question.
seamus coughlin
Oh boy.
tim pool
Should Seamus give Tim a non-fouchy role?
seamus coughlin
Oh, well, I have, and I did on the last video, and you never sent me your audio.
tim pool
No, that wasn't fair.
seamus coughlin
I gave you the police officer in the last video!
unidentified
I gave you a document with, like, one hour.
tim pool
He's like, I need you to voice this police officer.
Here, read this.
And I'm like, I did it like three days ahead of time!
I said, Tim, do it!
And you said, I was like, you're not here.
I don't know what you're asking.
And then Seamus does his quick voice memo and he's like, just say this.
seamus coughlin
And I'm like, bro, I said, say it like this.
I said, say it like this.
You said I need direction.
And I gave you the direction.
unidentified
He wanted me to come up like, I'm a cop, my name's Seamus.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, that was originally the line of the video.
78% said yes, Seamus.
Was Dominion in charge of the Twitter poll you just put up?
tim pool
I think I should voice Nancy Pelosi.
seamus coughlin
Oh, I'm fine with you voicing Nancy Pelosi.
tim pool
I will get her in a video, I think it'd be very funny.
hannah claire brimelow
Why aren't you writing for Tim's acting credentials?
That's the real question.
tim pool
People on IMDB put Freedom Tunes on my IMDB.
seamus coughlin
I know, I know.
Well, why wouldn't they?
You're one of the voice actors.
That's why you're notable.
tim pool
I took a picture.
I posted it.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, did you?
tim pool
Yeah, it says Dr. Fauci.
seamus coughlin
Oh, I thought you were like, I finally made it.
tim pool
Yeah, I'm a voice actor.
I play Dr. Fauci on Freedom Tunes.
seamus coughlin
Look, I'll be honest.
tim pool
There's millions of views on these videos!
seamus coughlin
It's true.
There's literally millions of views.
tim pool
I should get an Academy Award or something.
seamus coughlin
Well, I wouldn't go that far.
Your performance was okay.
It was serviceable.
tim pool
Can I get in SAG with that now?
seamus coughlin
Absolutely, yeah.
tim pool
And what's the other one?
AFTRA?
seamus coughlin
What's AFTRA for?
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
It's the same thing, isn't it?
seamus coughlin
No clue.
I wouldn't know.
hannah claire brimelow
Sounds like an insurance company.
tim pool
All right.
Chinese Spy Balloon says we should start a GoFundMe for Don Lemon.
We could call it Don Lemonade.
seamus coughlin
That's... I love it.
I love it when life gives you Don Lemon, right?
hannah claire brimelow
Like, I already pitched that he's going into academia, but maybe he'll take over some, you know, not very well-known non-profit and rename it Don Lemonade and he'll just give out money.
tim pool
Matt Meadows says I nominate Dan Bongino to take the 8pm slot at Fox.
It's like, man, did people not realize that they booted that Dan Bongino was out?
He got fired, right?
seamus coughlin
They couldn't reach an agreement on their contract.
hannah claire brimelow
But maybe now that the 8pm slot is open, Don is ready to come back to the table.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, yeah.
That could be possible.
tim pool
What do we got?
seamus coughlin
Why do you say that like a goblin?
unidentified
You're like, what do we have here in my chat?
How much money are you sending me?
So Tim, how do you feel knowing you're now earned this time slot?
tim pool
No, Tucker, no more competition, ha ha ha ha ha.
I actually had people texting me saying, like, the 8pm time slot is yours, and I'm like, Tucker Carlson was getting 3 million views, getting like 10 times the viewership that we were, but, you know, I'll take whatever trickles off of his empty slot now.
I mean, we got a lot more viewers today, so.
seamus coughlin
Maybe Fox will, you know, hire you for that slot, and we'll just broadcast from here.
tim pool
All right.
Paul Sikora says, Seamus, who in your opinion is the better theological thinker and writer, or who is more influential in your understanding of the Catholic faith, St.
Thomas Aquinas or St.
Augustine?
seamus coughlin
Okay, that's a really good question.
So, I love me some St.
Augustine, I really do, but I'm gonna have to go with Aquinas.
tim pool
Smart feller, that guy.
seamus coughlin
Mm-hmm, yes, yes, extremely intelligent.
tim pool
I don't know enough about either of them, other than...
seamus coughlin
A lot smarter than Luke, for example.
tim pool
Other than?
seamus coughlin
Who isn't?
tim pool
Aquinas is cited by even secular individuals in terms of philosophy.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, exactly, and scholarship.
I mean, sometimes, I'm sure Augustine is well, but I know that Aquinas lays out the model for what a scholar should
be, because he writes everything starting, like, with his
opponent's arguments, and the best arguments his opponents have, and then laying
those out and just decimating all of them.
tim pool
Violent Hour says, Gollum Tim horrifies me.
That's very good, that's very good.
savanah hernandez
Same, I was not prepared for that voice.
unidentified
Oh yeah, that's very good.
hannah claire brimelow
When are you gonna write that into Freedom Tune?
Tim as Gollum.
unidentified
Uh, I don't have to.
tim pool
He already is.
It has to be like, there has to be a moment when a scraggly, um, it's gotta be like a democrat like Schiff or Kinzinger, and they're trying to get something, and then we just have them be Gollum.
You know what I mean?
seamus coughlin
That would make sense, but the thing is, like, I can do a Gollum voice too, so you'd have to, it'd have to be better than mine.
I just don't know that it's possible.
And it is, I mean.
I just don't think so.
tim pool
Seamus is like, oh, you're Sterlit from us!
seamus coughlin
I go, hey!
unidentified
Give me that ring back, boys!
tim pool
That's- that's not Gollum.
seamus coughlin
That's how Gollum sounds.
That's not how Gollum sounds.
hannah claire brimelow
You have to have a Gollum off.
unidentified
You have to compete.
seamus coughlin
STUPID FAT HERBITSES!
Alright.
100% better.
100% better.
I'm sorry.
tim pool
100%.
seamus coughlin
100% better.
tim pool
Maybe like 2% better.
seamus coughlin
That was literally completely better.
hannah claire brimelow
I feel like we need to at least like a 15 second monologue from both of you in the Gollum voices.
seamus coughlin
It has to be a monologue for our next episode.
We're each going to pick a famous monologue from a movie or TV show, and then we have to deliver it as Gollum, and we'll see whose is better.
We'll have people vote in the chat.
tim pool
And that's the whole show.
We each get one hour.
unidentified
Memorize one of the great speeches of history.
tim pool
I'll do Trump's last address after being arrested.
And then you can do Trump's rally in San Jose.
seamus coughlin
It can't be both Trump.
hannah claire brimelow
I don't know.
You want to have some control in this experiment, right?
seamus coughlin
Exactly.
I got to pick my own.
tim pool
Although there would be something to be said of having a Trump rally after the 2020 election and having Gollum just say, THEY STOLE IT FROM US!
unidentified
THEY STOLE IT FROM US!
savanah hernandez
Oh my god.
unidentified
THEY LET SOME DEMON IN!
seamus coughlin
THEY STOLE IT FROM US!
STUPID FAT FARTING MACHINES!
unidentified
I'm sorry, why was Gollum not the face of this whole they stole it from us?
tim pool
They stole it from us.
THEY STOLE IT FROM US!
Oh my gosh.
hannah claire brimelow
This is really a missed opportunity all around.
unidentified
Oh my goodness.
tim pool
They takes it.
Alright, what do we got?
Captain Caveman says the recycling center by my house is a sign that says no bud light accepted for redemption.
unidentified
Wow.
seamus coughlin
That's actually hilarious.
tim pool
Remember when beer commercials were a bunch of like scantily clad women and the message was that if you drank their beer attractive women would want to have sex with you?
savanah hernandez
Yeah.
Remember the burger commercials that were like that, too?
seamus coughlin
The what?
savanah hernandez
The burger commercials that were like that, too?
tim pool
Yeah, it was like they were trying to sell things and they were like, I know what will get a guy to buy this.
Sexy women.
seamus coughlin
And you know what?
There's nothing women love more than a man eating a cheeseburger.
unidentified
That's like... Yeah.
tim pool
Making the cheeseburger, you know?
That's right.
Providing.
That's true.
unidentified
All right, all right, all right.
tim pool
What do we got here?
hannah claire brimelow
I feel like it's like fixing your car and taking you to get a cheeseburger, you know?
Yeah.
I don't want to have to deal with this car ever.
tim pool
Publius says, I would buy Ultra Maga Beer.
Someone please create that brand.
Seth Weathers made Conservatives Dad Ultra Right Beer, which is similar.
Lord Spam says, Yingling makes a half porter called Black and Tan, and it's wonderful.
The Irish have no excuse.
Shameless.
seamus coughlin
What did you just say to me?
hannah claire brimelow
Shameless!
seamus coughlin
Wait, wait, hold on.
When did I ever claim the Irish have any excuses?
Besides alcoholism.
That is an excuse.
It's a disease.
savanah hernandez
That's fair.
seamus coughlin
It's a disease.
hannah claire brimelow
And the various public beratings they get from being targeted by politicians.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, exactly.
It's not fair.
Like, Joe Biden?
Come on.
Come on.
tim pool
Project Apario says, Tim, Andre here, inventor.
You can integrate the YouTube API to Timcast and pick up subscription information from that.
Ping me if you want.
Oh, really?
We could probably figure something out then.
We'll try and figure something out.
Let's see what we got.
No Soup for Nole says, still waiting for the special guest.
seamus coughlin
Wow, so Noles, firstly, No Soup for Noles is a voice actress who does the female voices on Freedom Tune, so I think she got jealous of my Gollum impression because she knows she can't do one that's nearly as good, and I think she wanted to hurt my feelings, and that's what we're seeing right now.
tim pool
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
says, happy birthday to Olivia Claire, let's go.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
You said it was your special day.
hannah claire brimelow
I didn't say it was my- I thought this was like your bromance special day.
tim pool
Oh, I don't know.
I guess he was talking to you.
hannah claire brimelow
Also, my name's not Olivia, Claire.
Yeah, it is.
Incorrect.
seamus coughlin
He just renamed you, okay?
hannah claire brimelow
I can't believe you've known me for this long and you don't know my name.
You're acting exactly like Luke.
seamus coughlin
I just want to put that on the table.
You knew how to try to get under my skin and I appreciate that.
You're something a little more manipulative and complex, alright?
Understandable.
But it's not going to work because I know what you're trying to do.
tim pool
Callan Shaw's indie game says, Shimcast is back, trying to remember whether it was Knowles or Fradd, it was Knowles, who called him a Shiite Wahhabi Catholic.
seamus coughlin
I love his holo ad.
Oh, he loves my holo ad, thank you!
Yeah, so we just got sponsored by this prayer app called Holo.
And the joke we do, I'm so glad they were okay with this app, or this ad, and I'm so glad they liked it.
But if you guys, if you watch our last video, there's one at the end of it, it's, I really recommend you check it out.
The last couple videos we did have this holo ad, and it's super funny.
tim pool
We had Michael Knowles on, and Ian asked a religious question, and he was like, you really need to ask Seamus that, who is a Shiite Wahhabi Catholic.
seamus coughlin
That's so sweet of him.
Thank you, Michael.
tim pool
So sweet of him.
What do we got?
Trevor Greens has published the same cartoon twice, one voicing Tim and one voicing Seamus, and see which one gets more views.
Oh, mine clearly would.
seamus coughlin
No, it wouldn't.
tim pool
Yeah, because I would just tell everyone to watch mine instead of yours.
seamus coughlin
They would never do it.
tim pool
Yeah, they'd be like Seamus is shameful.
seamus coughlin
They'd watch it and go, they'd throw this garbage and then they'd find mine.
Oh, thank goodness.
A light in the darkness.
tim pool
Yes, that's exactly what they'd say.
hannah claire brimelow
I really think there's only one way to determine this.
I feel like you've got to move forward with this plan and competition.
savanah hernandez
It's got to be done.
tim pool
It's two Gollums.
It's Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff arguing about Trump, but they're both in the voice of Gollum, acting like Gollum, and Seamus is one and I'm the other.
hannah claire brimelow
Or you should just do this show regularly in your Gollum voices for as long as you can.
seamus coughlin
We'll literally just do Joe Biden quotes as Gollum.
unidentified
Poor habits is just as bright and talented as white habits is!
tim pool
As fat ones.
As fat habits!
seamus coughlin
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
That's, yeah, so Matt says, Tim, voice for Lori Lightfoot.
Actually, that's the Lori Lightfoot voice.
seamus coughlin
That should be the Lori Lightfoot voice.
We did a cartoon with her behind the paywall, but I don't think we've done one with her on the main channel.
tim pool
We got a story for you guys over in the uncensored portion of the show, so smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, because apparently, with Tucker out of the way, we are now going to be the biggest show, finally, the only thing standing in our way.
Tucker Carlson has been defeated, and that means the 8pm slot's ours, so, you know, Seamus, welcome back.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, thank you.
And I gotta say, there's someone else gunning for your job.
There's this really cool new podcast on Rumble called Shamer that this guy named Seamus Cogglesworth is like kind of a big deal.
And so part of why I think...
Let the record show it was Tim making poop noises that entire time.
Absolutely disgusting.
tim pool
I think that... Well, if I'm in his contract, I'm allowed to make poop noises when he reads dates.
It's actually true.
seamus coughlin
I shouldn't have signed that.
I shouldn't have signed that.
tim pool
Let me wrap up.
We're going to do the Uncensored show in a few minutes.
So go to TimCast.com, click join us, become a member, join the Discord.
Discord members can call into the show if they've been a member for at least six months or sign up for 25 bucks.
And we got a lot more stuff to talk about.
So, Savannah, did you want to shout anything out?
savanah hernandez
Yeah, go follow me on YouTube, Sav Says, and Twitter.
Same exact handle.
I'm excited for the After Hours show.
It's where I can finally actually speak my mind.
So go check it out, guys.
I'm excited.
tim pool
Not family-friendly.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, because she usually keeps her opinions to herself.
savanah hernandez
I really do.
seamus coughlin
I want you all to listen to me very carefully.
I have a mission for you.
I need you to go over to youtube.com slash freedom tunes.
It's my cartoon channel where I make animations.
I need you guys to subscribe.
Every Tuesday and Thursday we upload a funny cartoon and we're going to start uploading
three a week on occasion.
So yeah, you guys are going to love it.
tim pool
This guy thinks he's gonna get me free labor now.
seamus coughlin
I'm a big old crazy guy over here.
And also, someone in the chat said, this guy should have a daily podcast.
I appreciate that.
I do have a podcast.
It's twice a week.
It's on Rumble.
Rumble.com slash Shamer.
And this week, we are broadcasting every single Night.
6 p.m.
Eastern.
Go over there.
Check it out.
You guys are gonna love it.
Thank you so much.
I'm so, so glad to be back.
This went incredibly well in spite of Tim's best efforts.
It was wonderful chatting with you all, and I can't wait to see you, the wonderful audience, on the after show.
hannah claire brimelow
I'm Hannah Clare Brimlow.
I'm a writer for TimCast.com.
You should follow at TimCastNews on Twitter and Instagram.
You can also tweet at our executive editor, Chris Carr, for his various cocktail recipes.
If you want to follow me personally, you can follow me on Instagram at hannahclare.b and you can follow me on Twitter at hcbrimlow.
Thanks so much!
unidentified
And I am Serge.com, free froggy fresh.
I hope you have a good night.
Talk to you guys later.
seamus coughlin
Wait, can I... People are asking, I guess they didn't... Rumble.com slash Shamer.
That's... I think they're saying that.
tim pool
I'm trying to say that.
seamus coughlin
No, no, I'm saying that in the chat they're like, what's the channel name?
I guess I must have forgotten to say it.
tim pool
So follow the show at TimCastIRL on Instagram and Facebook.
Follow me personally at TimCast.
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