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March 17, 2023 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Timcast IRL - TRUMP IS BACK, Posts To Youtube And Facebook In Triumphant Return w/Jennie Taer
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ian crossland
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phil labonte
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tim pool
Donald Trump is back ladies and gentlemen.
The man is back.
He's on Facebook.
He's on YouTube.
He has posted officially.
And there's some rumors that he may be returning to Twitter as well soon.
We will see.
It's hard to know for sure.
So, we're gonna talk about that.
And, uh, as you may have noticed, it's St.
Patrick's Day.
So we had a special title card today.
And, uh, so, uh, we're gonna have a good relaxing time.
We also gotta talk about, because of St.
Patrick's Day, Joe Biden, who said that he's not really Irish because he's sober and his family members aren't in jail, which I find highly offensive.
As a person who is part Irish, Joe Biden has no right to insult my people.
That being said, Seamus, everybody.
ian crossland
Well said.
tim pool
That's actually a really good point, Seamus.
It is very offensive to make stereotypical jokes about Irish people in that way.
As an Irish person myself, I am deeply offended by what Joe Biden has said.
ian crossland
Yeah, and potato jokes, stuff like that.
tim pool
I know, yeah.
So thanks for hanging out, Seamus, of Freedom Tunes.
You know, we missed you and we're glad that you're back, but joining us in actuality is Jenny Teer.
Do you want to introduce yourself?
unidentified
Thank you.
Hi, Jenny Terrah with the Daily Caller News Foundation.
I'm a reporter who covers immigration and the border.
tim pool
Right on.
Thanks for hanging out.
It should be a relaxing Friday, I suppose.
Phil?
phil labonte
Potatoes are a tough act to follow, I know.
I am Phil Labonte, lead singer of All That Remains, anti-communist and counter-revolutionary.
ian crossland
And if you didn't know, I'm Ian Crossland.
That's a sweet potato.
It's blasphemy.
It's not even a real potato.
phil labonte
It's a potato!
ian crossland
I like them better.
tim pool
It's a different kind of potato.
ian crossland
Jenny, you said you were on both borders.
This is a crazy story.
I mean, I'm sure you've got so much to talk about.
We'll talk about it on the show.
It was great to see you.
unidentified
Thank you.
ian crossland
You can follow me anywhere, but let's get to it.
Callan, we got it.
What's up?
unidentified
Hey, what's up, everybody?
Happy St.
Patrick's Day.
It's Callan.
Quick note, Discord is up and running, so you can hop in there right now.
If you're a member on tincast.com, you get access to the Discord.
So just a quick reminder.
tim pool
Yes, go to TimCast.com.
Let's pull that up right here.
unidentified
Yes, sir.
tim pool
And then you click that Join Us button on the website.
You'll also notice there's a Discord button now, right there on the left.
You can see I'm highlighting it.
And when you go to that, it will give you the instructions on how to sign up for the Discord server, which is a chat program.
You can hang out with other members of the website.
And we reopened chat for everybody because now members It's all consolidated.
So the main issue was we had people who were like, hey, there's no real way to chat when the show's going live because the chat goes crazy.
And so we were like, let's try a members-only chat to see if that works.
And a lot of people were like, this is awesome.
But there were a lot of people who didn't want to become members or people who were already members at TimCast.com.
Like, I don't want to sign up twice.
So we decided, well, we want to launch a Discord.
So now if you're a member at TimCast, you get access to the members-only chat room, which we should have up and running on our end.
Monday, so that for the Members Only Uncensored shows, we can take in a call from the members, from you guys, and there are varying tiers we've set up, you can check that out, and like a VIP club if you want to be in that, where we'll have TimCast crew members and other such people hanging out.
And the other thing I'll say is I've got wicked food poisoning, I am very sick, so I may just like sit here drooling on myself while Phil, Ian, and Jenny talk about everything, but I didn't want to I don't want the show to get cancelled, but honestly, like, after we filmed the Culture War podcast this morning, I just went to sleep, and I woke up at, like, 6.30, and they were like, are we doing the show or not?
I'm like, I'm coming.
You know, it's just, I eat some yogurt.
I still carry yogurt.
I had to do it.
ian crossland
That's fine.
tim pool
It had to be done.
ian crossland
The aloe, also, if you want to drink a shot of that, that'll do it.
tim pool
Probably a good thing.
So, anyway, we're here, and we're going to talk about a lot of fun stuff, and it's good that we are, because Donald Trump is back!
Here's the first story that we got, timgaz.com.
Trump's YouTube has been restored.
Posts first video in two years.
This channel will continue to be subject to our policies just like any other channel.
Ladies and gentlemen, let me just scroll right down.
Here is the video from Donald J. Trump.
unidentified
Sorry to keep you waiting.
Complicated business.
Complicated.
tim pool
That was it.
unidentified
Sorry to keep you waiting.
Complicated business.
Complicated.
tim pool
Four seconds.
Four seconds of Donald Trump posted.
It's got 115,000 views.
And then the other big news is that Trump is back on Facebook!
He posts for the first time on Facebook since January 6, 2021.
And I think he just posted in big capital letters, I'm back.
I think that's what it was.
ian crossland
You know, someone had mentioned that the mistake he's been making lately is that he's still in 2015 underdog mindset.
I think it's Patrick bet David and that he's now he's like the favorite.
So he doesn't, he needs to use different tactics.
I think if he just started doing short YouTube videos of like, I love you, you're going to do great in life.
Simple, like basic.
tim pool
He should eat a taco bowl.
ian crossland
Yeah, you know, eat the common food, speak to the common man, but just give them short bursts of positive energy.
That's all he needs to do to start rolling right now.
phil labonte
I'm not going to be happy until he's back on Twitter calling Rosie O'Donnell fat.
I'm not going to be happy until he's doing it.
tim pool
Didn't he say something about starting a women's WNBA team of men?
unidentified
What?
No.
tim pool
I heard someone say that.
I should fact check that.
phil labonte
Please do.
And if it's true, Donald, please, please do.
Please do.
tim pool
Maybe he didn't say that.
Somebody, someone told me that he said that.
Maybe, maybe not.
I don't know.
ian crossland
It's all very topical.
I was just watching this interview with Michael Malice and Patrick Bet-David on Valuetainment.
We talked about a little bit before the show.
And they were talking about Truth Social, the valuation of the company has dipped, apparently.
I haven't been able to verify this, but they were both talking about it, too.
It's like it's worth half of what it was worth.
And they're like, why hasn't he been on Twitter?
Well, Patrick surmised that it's probably because he's trying to make sure people keep coming to his website to pay back his investors with Trump, the company that owns Truth Social, that SPAC that they did.
And then... Is that DWAC?
His DWAC?
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure, but that, and they're like, maybe if True Social, because they were like, is True Social about to crumble?
Like, is it falling apart?
Are they about to close it down?
And if it does, is that good for Trump?
And then they were arguing whether it is or not.
Some people like it'll free him up.
He doesn't have to please his past investors anymore.
He can go do whatever he wants again.
tim pool
I mean, it's down quite a bit.
But, uh, that's only because when it started it spiked, and then I think Dwack reached like a hundred bucks a share March 2020, around March of 2022, what is this?
phil labonte
Trump's not as fun without the audience.
Like Trump is, like Trump isn't, Trump's, you know, Trump can say stuff on Truth Social, But he's not, like, when he's preaching to his own crowd, it's not as funny as when he's on Twitter with, like, reply guys going at it and, you know, saying things to get people worked up.
Because half the fun of Trump on Twitter was reading the replies and watching people, you know, make videos and stuff.
So I'm not, I'm not...
I'm not going to be happy until he's fully restored to Twitter.
tim pool
Do you consider yourself political, Jenny?
Are you just straight news?
unidentified
No, I'm pretty straight.
I think also like Trump's Twitter, like you were saying, it drove the news cycle.
I don't think Truth Social, when he posts on there, it does that at all.
tim pool
Nobody cares.
ian crossland
I think you need an account to even read stuff.
It's crazy.
You need it to be at least publicly able to be read if you want it to be part of the news cycle.
phil labonte
The great thing about Trump was Covfefe.
You're not getting that with him posting to Truth Social.
tim pool
I'm actually offended they won't tell us what really happened.
We had Kash Patel here and he was like, I know what happened, but I'm not telling you.
And it's like, dude, how dare you?
We must know the secrets of Covfefe.
phil labonte
He also said that it was only two people that actually knew, and I'm dubious about whether anyone knows at all.
tim pool
Somebody sausage-fingered the phone.
They were like, whoops, I sent it, and then they were like, what happened?
ian crossland
Another point that they were making about the problems that Truth Social may be having, it's tough to tell, because like you said, there was a spike in the beginning, is that Elon Musk bought Twitter, and the whole point of Truth Social was, we're going to make a free speech social network.
So he did it, he set it up, they got investment, they got it going, and then Elon bought Twitter and was like, now Twitter's a free speech social network, and everyone was like, well, what's the point of truth now?
phil labonte
But also, really, right away, truth social turned into the right wing.
So it wasn't just the free speech alternative.
It was so heavily partisan that it became the antithesis to Twitter.
So Twitter's where all the left-leaning people were for a long time.
Until Musk...
tim pool
Look at Mastodon.
phil labonte
Well, that's what happened.
Yeah.
tim pool
Gone.
Who talks about Mastodon?
phil labonte
There's still some people out there on Twitter that are really committed leftists.
tim pool
And there are people who are committed to truth, but it doesn't matter.
It's not in the conversation.
phil labonte
No, no, no.
It's not at all.
It's not at all.
ian crossland
Partisan social media is not the way.
Social media is supposed to be a neutral ground.
I mean, I think the best social media has not been a neutral offering where people can go at it if they want, or they can, like, communicate.
It's hard if someone's, like, blocking a certain type of person.
phil labonte
It's terrible.
And you know the thing like there's a lot of people that that when Musk bought Twitter they were they were upset that it wasn't a pure free speech platform and I don't think that there was ever going to be I think that that was a mistake to think that it was ever going to be purely free speech where like You know, you were never going to have Twitter turned into 4chan's B-board.
You know what I mean?
It was never going to be, you know, a Chan board or whatever.
But with Musk, there aren't ideas that are repressed in the same way that ideas were repressed when, you know, the previous owners had Twitter.
Because, you know, all the stuff that's coming out now about, you know, whether it be the administration or whether it be COVID stuff and stuff with Fauci or, you know, where COVID came from, etc.
That stuff would have been heavily suppressed had the ownership still been the previous owners.
And I don't think there's a lot of substance to arguments against that perspective.
ian crossland
Yeah, I agree.
Did you, were you thinking something?
unidentified
I mean, I think like, as weird as it sounds, I think like the minute Elon took over Twitter, I was like, holy crap, all of the DMs, like in my spam DMs, it was like so many weird people that came through.
Which I guess is like a side effect of having to like open up the entire space.
But it was weird to see more interaction that way, more interaction and like comments on things.
I think it really did like open up what, you know, maybe people consider shadow banning or, you know, suppression of different accounts.
Like, I think it really did change, like automatically, I could tell.
ian crossland
And there was like a week after he bought it, I think a bunch of subscribers were lost and gained by different accounts all at once.
A lot of stuff.
What's that?
tim pool
Leftists were losing followers like crazy, and the right was gaining followers like crazy.
ian crossland
I gained a huge chunk.
I gained like... Well, that means you're far right, Ian.
7% of my... That proves it.
Or 1% or something increase.
But it was a large increase, yeah.
phil labonte
That proves it.
ian crossland
Guarantees.
tim pool
Lock him up.
unidentified
Jail!
phil labonte
Jail for Ian!
ian crossland
He said today he's going to be open sourcing all code used to recommend tweets on March 31st.
Wow!
This is a tweet from about 5 o'clock today.
tim pool
There's going to be a code in there that says, like, if Donald Trump equals yes, then promote equals no.
I'm not even kidding.
I mean, obviously he's gotten rid of that stuff, but we'll probably see some stuff like that that he didn't find.
ian crossland
Yeah, but he threads on and says that it's going to be embarrassing for him and for Twitter for this stuff to be brought on there because the code is so horribly done.
He's just been complaining about it for months.
But he said, you know, that's the first step.
It's the humility.
You acknowledge how crappy it is, and then the community starts building it and fixing it and contributing.
It's going to be great.
This is the first step.
This doesn't mean he's open-sourcing everything.
In fact, Mines replied, the open-source organism will self-organize into something powerful.
This is the way Bill talks, yeah, for sure.
tim pool
The social media organism?
ian crossland
The open-source organism will self-organize into something powerful.
tim pool
I was like, did you misspeak?
Did you mean organization?
ian crossland
No, that's how Bill talks.
He thinks of social media as a living organism.
In the universe and stuff, he talks about it like it's an organism.
tim pool
A demon, maybe.
ian crossland
Sometimes.
tim pool
A Borg.
unidentified
TikTok is, for sure.
tim pool
Yeah, creepy, man.
unidentified
It's ruined me.
tim pool
Are you on it a lot?
unidentified
I'm a victim, yes.
ian crossland
How often are you on TikTok?
unidentified
Every morning, every night.
It's the only way I survive, honestly.
tim pool
Really?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
What do you watch on TikTok?
unidentified
It's totally rotted my brain.
tim pool
You watch, like, teenagers talk about cutting their junk off or something?
unidentified
No.
No, I'm not on that algorithm.
I'm, like, on the, like, influencer, like, you know, girl who lives in New York.
I'm on the cooking TikToks.
I'm on the travel TikToks.
phil labonte
The chocolate dude, the chocolate maker dude, there's this dude that makes chocolate and like he'll make like he made a velociraptor out of chocolate and he made like a crane arm thing out of chocolate and it's like crazy, crazy stuff.
People in the chat, you know who I'm talking about when I talk about the chocolate guy.
tim pool
I like the workout TikToks, because I'm trying to get my figure better, so I have to watch these women, you know, in yoga pants all the time.
I'm kidding, I think it's completely ridiculous they do this.
ian crossland
Is this Omari Gushon?
phil labonte
I don't know his name.
ian crossland
So when you're on TikTok, do you notice the algorithm trying to feed you things to get you to go down different paths?
unidentified
Oh yeah, absolutely.
And the problem is that when you're in social settings, after you watch TikTok so much and you're so addicted, you're always looking for that quick hit of dopamine and you're not getting it in normal social settings like you would on TikTok.
So you're always like, I'm so bored.
And I cut myself off.
It's horrible.
And it happens to a lot of people.
I'm pretty sure like girls were getting like tics from TikTok.
tim pool
They were.
That was a big story.
They started twitching.
Because the algorithm would feed them videos of women with Tourette's.
And then they would watch these videos endlessly of a woman ticking.
And then they would start developing tics.
This is the crazy thing.
When I saw a story like that, I was like, maybe, maybe women are more susceptible to social engineering than men.
I mean, I think, I shouldn't say maybe, I think it's factually true.
So the fact that women can generate a fake social Tourette's says a lot about what social media is doing to the fabric of society.
And I don't think you can have the 19th Amendment and social media at the same time.
ian crossland
Yeah, I think we should keep the 19th Amendment.
No way.
phil labonte
Social media is way more useful.
ian crossland
AI is better than law.
You could argue that.
No amount of copyright law can catch up with the amount of AI advancement.
That thing's just completely obliterating the 1500s law of Can't share my thing, like, it takes pictures from all over the internet that are all copywritten, a bunch of them are, and then it just feeds you, like, totally violates copyright law, but there's no way to stop it.
unidentified
You know what I gotta say, though, about the 19th Amendment?
tim pool
Now that I'm, like, sick and don't care all that much, because I feel like crap, I don't care what these liberal lefty women think about me or my views anyway, you know?
So if, like, all the conservative women are coming on this show and being like, yes, we should repeal the 19th, I'm just gonna be like, okay, I guess.
Like, I'm not gonna pander to these leftist cult members.
They don't mean anything to me.
But then, like, what am I supposed to do?
Tell the conservative women they're wrong?
Because, like, hey, all these women are saying this thing, but you're wrong.
It's like, well, either respect their agency as women who want to repeal the 19th through their own vote, or I don't.
So if I'm gonna respect them as women and their right to choose and make political decisions, their decision would be to give up their right to vote.
phil labonte
I mean, personally, I think that there is something to the argument that people need to have skin in the game if they're voting.
So you have to have, you know, just being able to vote for the government to give you, you know, whatever kind of benefits or whatever, you know, that's not fair to the rest of the population.
tim pool
Yeah, service guarantees citizenship.
phil labonte
Exactly, you know.
I agree.
I don't think that it should be just based on gender.
I understand the arguments that people make and the arguments about generally women are more emotional and blah blah blah.
I understand that.
But I still don't think that it should be based on gender.
But I do think that there is an argument to be made that You know, which is the same argument that's been, you know, been for a long time.
The reason why men had the vote and women didn't is men were responsible for the women.
So if a woman went out and did something that was wrong, men would get punished.
So like if a woman destroyed a man, you know, someone else's something, men would end up being, you know, would have to be responsible for it.
tim pool
The bigger issue is that men were drafted for war.
phil labonte
That too.
tim pool
And drafted for the fire brigade.
phil labonte
Sure.
tim pool
And the idea was if you are here to volunteer for the community, then you have a right to vote.
And then women advocated for the suffragettes said, we shouldn't have to do anything and we should get the right to vote anyway.
And they're like, OK, but that's that, you know, that makes no sense.
I think civil responsibility.
phil labonte
I don't think the suffragettes were making that argument.
I think they were because the there were.
tim pool
No, that was a big component of I was reading a bunch about.
The fire brigade was a big issue for the women who opposed the women's suffrage.
Specifically, I can't remember the woman's name, but the opponents of women's suffrage said outright, I don't want to be drafted or forced to join the fire brigade.
The argument was, I don't want the civil responsibilities that come with voting that's for men to do.
What are your thoughts, Jenny?
You're a woman.
should get those anyway, regardless of civil responsibilities.
So the compromise was made when passing the 19th Amendment that women would be exempt
from fire brigade and exempt.
And because that was the argument from the anti-suffragettes.
They were like, OK, well, how about this?
We don't require any civic duty and you get to vote anyway.
And they're like, well, now we have no argument.
ian crossland
What are your thoughts, Jenny?
You're a woman.
unidentified
I want to know.
I mean, women gave birth to all these men making the decisions and to all the soldiers
that were fighting.
We're not going to get to that.
You know, and a lot of them in wartime did step up and aid these soldiers and, you know, helped in different ways.
I mean, I believe I should have the right to vote.
I believe women should have the right to vote.
ian crossland
There's that Rosie the Riveter, that meme of the girl doing this because she was building the bombs in the factories during World War II.
unidentified
Every girl on Halloween now dresses like that, right?
Yeah.
tim pool
The issue that these conservative women often bring up... I'm more like, I don't know, man.
Like, I'm not a woman, so I'm not gonna... But like, conservative women are very much anti-19th, and liberal are pro-it.
But the majority of millennial women, 70%, are Democrats.
And they just vote for this stuff, whether there's policy that makes sense, anyway.
So if only women voted, you'd have Democrat presidents.
And if only men voted, you'd have Republican presidents.
So the main issue, I think, is not so much whether it's an issue of women voting and women having the right to vote, it's an issue of men and women statistically vote in different ways that rip the country apart.
unidentified
Totally.
Well, right now it's abortion is the biggest thing for women that are my age, right?
tim pool
Yeah, but I think that's actually a good example of women don't vote for things.
They vote for feelings.
And so, like, the fact that it could be abortion today or anything else tomorrow, the fact that the woke left seemingly has no cohesive ideology and they vote for whatever this stuff is regardless, I think, is an element of gender-based voting biases.
ian crossland
I was just checking it out, and it's 1912.
What is it?
1920 is when it was ratified.
It's right around when radio picked up.
Again, how this technology is changing us as a species.
Like, radio gave us the opportunity to listen to ourselves from a distance.
Like, literally listen to yourself.
It was the first time in history you could record with a phonograph, really.
tim pool
Well, recording happened a long time ago.
ian crossland
The phonograph, I think, was the first instance of it.
Thomas Edison.
It's pretty interesting watching him build that thing.
He built it on a roll of paper, and it's like these different rivets on the paper, and then it would like pluck the thing and then recreate the sound of the stitching.
That's pretty fascinating.
But I think, I mean, I think it's like women are maybe more psychological than men.
Men are more like brute, like animalistic.
tim pool
Women are subject-oriented, men are object-oriented.
ian crossland
And then, so being able to witness ourselves through radio allowed women to become much more, you know, socially cognizant, perhaps, which is why this all kicked off in the early 1900s, late 1878s when it started.
phil labonte
I think, I don't, I understand that, or I do agree that, you know, Radio did have a big effect on society, but I don't think that, I think that the seeds were planted before radio became normal.
Because when the radio became ubiquitous, right, in what, the 30s was it?
ian crossland
Let's find out.
I know Tesla was working on it in the early 1900s.
phil labonte
And by ubiquitous, I mean, you know, most people had a radio in their home or something like that.
ian crossland
It was invented in the 1890s.
I'll look and see how, when it became, like, everyone has a radio kind of thing.
phil labonte
Yeah.
So, yeah, I mean, like I said, I think that radio and stuff like that did have an effect, but the ideas, you know, the ideas tend to come from philosophers and stuff like that.
So the ideas of Human beings being equal, those ideas had been set into motion a hundred years before the radio.
tim pool
I disagree.
I agree with Ian.
There's a lot of philosophies.
There's a lot of ideas.
They don't all rise to the top.
They don't all become prominent.
I think what happens with radio is you've got a radio station and they're thinking like, how many listeners can we get to this radio station, this new thing?
And so they start making radio broadcasts and they're like, hey, hey, hey, hey, guy, you did some broadcast about Catholicism and the Protestants are pissed.
Don't do that.
We're losing money.
And they went, whoa, really?
And so if you're trying to maximize the size of your audience, you are heading towards a woke direction.
It has nothing to do with literature or philosophy.
All that matters is, how can we offend the least amount of people?
So if you look at what's happening today, with the expansion of the flow of information, the issue is quite simply, conservatives don't do anything, liberals do.
So a business is looking at Netflix, and there's like some story right now, what was it?
Oh yeah, we got some story we can talk about.
I don't know if I have it pulled up.
Oh I do actually, I have it right here, let's pull this up.
So this is from The Federalist.
Kellogg pledged $91 million to racial division while slashing employee benefits.
How psychotic is that?
Well, what happened was, apparently activists started complaining that, you know, Snap, Crackle, and Pop or whatever are white.
And so, the business sits down and they say, listen, What's happening?
Well, we got a thousand emails from these angry liberals complaining about white characters on our cereal boxes.
Okay, what are conservatives saying?
Nothing, they don't care.
Well, okay, then we need to give the squeaky wheel the grease.
When every company does that over a hundred years, keeps giving the squeaky wheel the grease, or trying to just minimize anger, it is going to skew in the direction we are seeing it skew, regardless of what anyone writes about it.
ian crossland
Do you think that corporations are inherently woke, having their primary motive be Profit?
tim pool
Yes.
It's simple.
You've got a million people in a city, and Facebook says, we want one million members to join Facebook.
Well, uh-oh.
200,000 are refusing because there's Trumps on the platform.
Trump supporters aren't saying anything.
They don't care.
All right, we'll ban Trump then.
Well, now we lost $50,000.
Eh, we lost $50,000, we made $200,000, so we're good.
That's basically what's happening.
They don't think the negative con... It's cost-benefit analysis.
If the cost of banning Trump is greater than the cost of not banning him, they wouldn't do it.
But because they know, look...
People are quitting.
Look at Will Wheaton.
He's like, I'll quit Twitter unless you ban Alex Jones.
And then Twitter's like, oh, what do we do?
We're getting all these liberals to quit.
Oh, geez.
Oh, boy.
We got to do something.
And then, of course, all social media bans Alex Jones because the collective left threatened and the collective left does.
You typically follow through on this stuff.
ian crossland
I kind of agree that prioritizing profit and larger audiences is a bit, leads you towards like, you know, capitulating to whatever it is of the day.
But then what about ESG?
Because they've essentially said, we don't care how many people are here anymore.
We want this thing to happen.
So we're going to spend your money on it.
Damn be the consequences.
Damn be the losses.
tim pool
It's the same thing.
It's, they get complaints from the left and no one on the right says anything.
People on the right are like, well, I'm scared I'll lose my job.
It's like, well, okay.
unidentified
There you go.
tim pool
You lost.
ian crossland
That indicates that corporations being, having a woke mindset of profit over everything else will lead them to a place where they eventually do whatever the mob tells them to do.
Yes.
Yes.
They become so accustomed to doing what the mob wants for profit that they continue to do what the mob wants, even if it's unprofitable.
tim pool
Until it implodes.
unidentified
Well, what about like what's happening in Silicon Valley?
Like all these tech companies laying off people.
You have to believe that some of them are like the diversity, equity and inclusion folks, right?
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
ian crossland
Microsoft just laid off its artificial intelligence ethics team or something.
tim pool
That was funny.
That was hilarious as they're unleashing chat GPT-4, which is...
You see the guy who made a Twitter thread about giving it money?
He's like, I set a budget and told it to make money for me, and then it worked.
And he's mostly getting investors right now, but he's doing whatever Chet tells him to do.
But anyway, these companies are soulless entities that just do whatever they think will maximize their profits.
And if the left will threaten a boycott and follow through, then you have to do what the left says.
You may lose 10% of your audience because they're conservative,
but you'd lose 30% of your audience because every liberal would quit and conservatives don't care.
ian crossland
And it stresses out the employees when people complain, which is another cost to your company.
tim pool
We are seeing Netflix recoil because the woke stuff actually caused a massive backlash because
they reach, I think what happened is they reached the point where they chased the dragon too far.
And now the weird crackpot, you know, interracial gay movies they're making are causing people to cancel because they don't want to watch it.
And now Netflix is like, whoa, whoa, whoa, we're actually losing money.
So the cost risk analysis has reached the tipping point.
There was a movie on Shudder called The Spiral.
And, uh, the stupidest movie I've ever seen.
It's about an interracial gay couple with an adopted daughter.
They move next to a white waspy family.
And, uh, spoiler alert, everybody, because I doubt you're gonna watch it anyway.
The white waspy family are, uh...
Immortal because they kill marginalized people to like give themselves immortality and I'm just like this is what happens This is your brain on drugs, right?
These companies are like look these what the left is they're yelling in our ears They're demanding the stuff.
We got to give the audience what the audience wants then they make it and they're like, hey, wait a minute We only got like a hundred thousand views on this movie that costs, you know, five million bucks what happened?
It's like hey those loud people They don't actually have money, and they don't care, and they don't represent regular Americans.
So you make a movie like that, look at Top Gun.
I mean, Top Gun we talked about the other night.
Good old American Air Force, flying jets, military recruitment, you know?
Everyone on the beach all physically fit playing volleyball.
That made a billion dollars.
So I think they're gonna slowly start realizing they've lost their minds.
That's a good thing.
ian crossland
I was thinking of the metaphor of flying too close to the sun, where you're saying they chased the dragon too far.
Like, the idea that what the mob said is what the mob wants is not true.
The mob can twist and shit can come out of their mouth that's not...
tim pool
Well, the issue is, when you've got an angry mob in front of your door, and it's 500 people, you're like, I don't want them to burn down my store, so I'll just say whatever they want to hear.
But that 500 does not represent the 5 million who live in your city who actually service your business.
So they're giving in to psychopaths, and it's just, eventually it's going to destroy itself.
That's the only thing I think could happen.
ian crossland
Yeah, melts the wings.
Maybe it's not a perfect metaphor.
That Icarus story.
You guys know Icarus?
He flew too close to the sun, and he was flying with wax wings, and then he got too It was, you know, if the sun's warm, why not get closer to it?
tim pool
His dad was like, hey, you know, don't fly too high because the sun will melt your wings, which is wrong because at a certain height, it's going to be colder in the atmosphere, which would keep his wings.
A good point.
Yeah.
So, you know, I'm sitting here like, I think the dad lied about what happened.
ian crossland
You think that's propaganda to keep people on the ground?
Yes.
Wow.
Icarus' dad was like, I am sick of this little shit.
Different planets and stuff.
Yeah.
Propaganda is not a new thing.
tim pool
Yeah, make sure you don't fly too close to the sun.
ian crossland
I mean, they tell us there were angels that they had wings and they could fly.
I think they had hang gliders, realistically.
Like, they figured out how to glide.
And they would just tell people, yeah, we have wings.
Don't even try it.
Like, whatever you think you can do, you can't.
You're a subservient.
tim pool
Weren't angels described as, like, these big things with all these eyes and, like, wings in a wheel shape that would spin and, like, float through the sky or whatever?
ian crossland
Flying machines?
Crazy machines with lights on them and stuff?
tim pool
I have no idea.
I have no... I was reading this report that said scientists are increasingly thinking that time is cyclical, and that means, like, we go forward far enough and then we go back, and so there is no dawn of time.
There's only, like, human... after a hundred thousand years, humans have wiped themselves out, and the planet shifts to the point where it destroys everything on it, then goes back to the beginning, and then humans re-emerge, and we're just... we're trapped in this cycle over and over again forever.
unidentified
That sounds like the plot of Dark on Netflix.
Have you ever seen that?
tim pool
No, I think that movie is in German, right?
unidentified
Yeah, it's a three seasons.
It's in German, but it sounds just like Dark.
How it's a big cycle and everything that happens.
tim pool
I don't sprocket so I didn't watch it.
unidentified
You can, you know, English subtitles.
tim pool
I watched this zombie movie today.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
What is it called?
I don't know.
It's a South Korean zombie movie.
It's actually pretty good.
ian crossland
On Netflix?
tim pool
Yeah, it was on Netflix.
ian crossland
Oh man, we did an episode of Pop Culture Crisis earlier that was awesome.
If you guys haven't seen it, you're gonna have to check that out after the show.
It's just me and Dane, dude.
Dane Font, crushing it.
And Mary and Brett, of course.
phil labonte
Of course.
ian crossland
Okay, I don't think I had anything else about God unless you guys want to talk about the helixing nature of the universe and the twisting singularity that we're about to experience in 70 billion years that's basically today.
tim pool
What was that, Seamus?
unidentified
What?
ian crossland
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
Time is irrelevant.
That's actually the funniest thing you've ever said.
You should write that down.
ian crossland
I'm glad he's here.
I'm writing it down.
tim pool
Yeah, write that down.
That was a good one, Seamus.
ian crossland
I brought up this twisting universe.
They said the universe is expanding, and this was the theory up until last week or something, that it eventually will go so far away that it goes on forever.
I just didn't, I don't buy it.
I like the cyclical thing a lot better, that it's twisting around like a coming back on itself and experiencing the singularity and the big bang every time it goes through the center.
And the reason that it looks like it's shifting red, which indicates that it's getting further away, is actually because of the frequency.
The wavelength itself is bending as it twists around.
So it's an optical illusion.
I would like it.
tim pool
It wasn't trained to Busan, although I did see that and I liked it.
It's called Alive.
Hashtag Alive.
Yeah, I watched that today.
It was pretty good.
He's like locked in his house and they're in this dense urban environment where all the zombies are.
You know, I don't want to spoil the movie.
I liked it.
I liked it.
It was dubbed though, you know.
Hey, let's talk about Joe Biden.
We got this story from the New York Post.
Biden jokes he's really not Irish because he's sober, doesn't have relatives in jail.
I'm sorry, guys, I gotta say it.
Like, this was a funny, racist joke made by Joe Biden.
You know what I mean?
Like, I remember asking Seamus if it was racist to make jokes about Irish people and he said yes.
What was that, Seamus?
You actually, you don't like the jokes.
You think it's derogatory.
unidentified
On St.
ian crossland
Patrick's Day?
tim pool
On St.
Patrick's Day of all... What?
Well, come on, that's a little harsh, isn't it?
Anyway, what we were saying.
I'm Irish, so I'm allowed to make these jokes.
Is anybody else Irish in here?
ian crossland
I am, yeah.
unidentified
I am as well.
tim pool
Phil, are you Irish?
phil labonte
No, I am not.
tim pool
No, Jenny, you're not Irish?
unidentified
I'm Jewish.
tim pool
Jewish?
Oh, man.
So there's three people who are part Irish.
So we're allowed to make... If you guys make any jokes, then we'll kick you out.
unidentified
I honestly think it's a hilarious joke that Joe Biden made.
It's funny.
tim pool
I know, it's funny.
Like, he's... Wow, that's shockingly ethnically offensive.
unidentified
It sounds like a Trump line.
tim pool
I know, right?
ian crossland
Like, if you replaced Irish with black and he was a, like, Barack Obama made a joke about it being black.
He's like, because I don't eat this and have, like, that would be the most offense.
I mean, even for a black dude to say it would be so racist.
phil labonte
Danger, Will Robinson.
tim pool
No, but you're right.
Like, saying a certain ethnicity is, you know, only real if they're drunk and in jail.
ian crossland
It's horrible.
What a stereotype.
tim pool
I know, it's funny.
But he's Irish, so he's allowed to say it, right?
Good for you, Joe.
Is that how it works?
ian crossland
I mean, I'm... How you guys doing?
tim pool
I'm chilling.
ian crossland
I'm not used to being in the butt of jokes, like, racially, so I don't know how sensitive... what you should do about racially insensitive jokes.
I've never really been that bothered by them.
phil labonte
You should probably just not make them.
It's a safe bet.
ian crossland
And just let other people make them?
phil labonte
Don't be like, hey, make... Well, I mean, look, I mean, anytime you're... Personally, I'm not gonna police someone else.
Like, I'm not gonna be like, man, you shouldn't say this or you shouldn't say that.
Like, if someone says something offensive, I'm gonna be like, You know, do that, the whole Homer Simpson fading back into the edge behind him, you know?
tim pool
Dave Chappelle did a bit on one of his comedy specials where he squinted his eyes and his mouth and then made like offensive Asian stereotypes and I laughed my ass off at it.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And then I guess what happens is if the woke people are like, that was offensive, and I say something like, you're correct, they'll go, well, because you're Asian, you understand.
But if I say, actually, my family's part Asian, we found it hilarious, they'll say, well, you've internalized your white supremacy or something.
You're white.
unidentified
That's exactly how I feel because he makes jokes against Jews and then the Jewish community like freaks out and you're like, no, calm down.
Like then every time it's like Boy Who Cried Wolf.
It's like every time you like freak out, it's something small.
And then when something really big happens, it's going to be like, oh, whatever.
tim pool
Well, Trump's Arrangement Syndrome is real.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Like Sam Harris, that that guy's brain is just gone.
You know, he was like, he did that podcast with Lex Fridman and he's like, it's you who have Trump derangement syndrome if you support Trump.
And it's like, I saw, who was it?
Joe Walsh, I think it was?
phil labonte
Yeah, he's a clown.
tim pool
He said something like, why don't you want to be woke?
And I'm just like, dude, you, I was like, bro, cause you're in a cult.
These people are like, if you disagree with me, you love Trump.
And I'm like, it was really funny when Dave Smith, who hopefully announces he's running for the, for the president, for the presidency as a libertarian, he was on this show and they were like, you Trump supporters.
And he's like, I'm a libertarian!
It's like, I hate Trump, I don't like the guy.
Like, why are you assuming?
Because they're in a cult.
Their brains are in a cult.
They live in a world where there's only Trump or no Trump.
And if you disagree with them, because Biden's bad, then you must love Trump.
Even if you're actively smack-talking Trump, they just, it's a cult, man.
ian crossland
I wonder what cult I'm in.
I feel like everybody's in a cult.
tim pool
Graphene.
ian crossland
The graphene cult?
tim pool
Yeah, you won't let it go, man.
ian crossland
The Mars cult?
phil labonte
Some kind of earth worship or something like that.
The Gaia?
Probably something like that.
ian crossland
The cult of the eminent Gaia?
phil labonte
Something, something, something earthy crunchy.
ian crossland
I do believe that like consciousness is, is a spirit, is like a magnetic field.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Other people start to believe, you know, when I started making YouTube videos, it was a long time ago.
unidentified
You do?
No.
ian crossland
Oh, okay.
phil labonte
Good.
ian crossland
It got very cult-y.
Internet video produces cults of personality, where you become obsessed or in love with the person you watch, and you subscribe to them, and you pay them, and you support them, and you follow them.
If you bare your soul to that, it can become very cult-y, like weirdly cult-y.
The nice thing, what you do, is it's a business for you.
You keep it very business-oriented.
It's very professional.
tim pool
I mean, that's true for any famous person.
You know? Yes. Like, yeah, you've got all these celebrities are doing only fans.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
They're not doing porn, though.
They're just posting bikini photos or whatever.
And they're making millions in like days when you get emotional and then they start
ian crossland
to get attached to that.
You'll notice they scream your name and they don't even care what you're talking
about. That's when it's like this is quality.
tim pool
I don't like. Can I just can I pretend I'm offended at Joe Biden's Irish comments
and like impeach him for it or something?
Oh, geez. That was that's like he said the N word for Irish people.
It's violence.
You know, yeah, it was violent.
He attacked me.
So I'm gonna need him to be impeached, Jim Jordan or Matt Gaetz, if you could just maybe come in this weekend and file those impeachment papers.
ian crossland
This is like getting dealt a Trump card, an ace of spades when you're playing spades.
And you're like, holy, I get to hold this in my hand now.
And this is going to guarantee I don't lose every hand.
tim pool
No, they don't care.
ian crossland
Because he's indicating that it's okay to make racist jokes, which it is.
It's free speech.
You're allowed to do that.
tim pool
So now you need a video of a little kid who's like watching and going, haha, Irish people are dumb and saying stuff like that.
Look what Joe Biden has done to these children.
ian crossland
That's the downside of racist jokes.
But yeah, that's life.
You know, you need strong parents to tell kids like you're going to hear and see this stuff.
tim pool
I guess.
unidentified
Yeah, but if you're white passing, you can be racist.
tim pool
Yeah, if you're Irish but you pass for white, then you're okay because no one will know that you're drunk or in jail.
phil labonte
Irish people are not white.
tim pool
I guess not.
I mean, Luke's got blonde hair and blue eyes and they don't consider him white.
phil labonte
He's a slob.
He's not white.
You know, man, I mean, it doesn't it shouldn't surprise anyone that Joe Biden said something like that.
It's it's not offensive to, I mean, anyone really.
I mean, for the most part, most people just are going to be like, whatever.
I don't I don't imagine there's going to be a significant constituency of Irish people that are going to actually be up in arms about it.
I mean, I just don't imagine that they're going to have anything to say about it.
So it's going to go away and whatever.
And you should expect something brainless to come out of Joe Biden's mouth because by noontime he's out of it.
tim pool
Joe Biden could actually make disparaging comments about black people and they wouldn't care.
They would immediately respond with, well, Donald Trump called Mexicans rapists or whatever, so you have no room to talk or whatever, and you're going to be like, he never said that, dude.
But they don't care.
phil labonte
It is a situation, you know, the hierarchy of acceptable people and unacceptable people.
So there is that.
But again, it's just a matter of Joe Biden is Like, they're just gonna ignore whatever he says for two reasons.
One, he's the president and he's on the left, ostensibly.
And two, because they make excuses for him because he's got tapioca for brains.
Right.
tim pool
I mean, yeah, if they really were to respond to this, they'd say, oh, well, old Joe's got brain issues, so we forgive him.
And it's like, oh, now he's got brain issues.
phil labonte
And it's fine.
I mean, obviously, you know, it was vote for Joe Biden.
Everyone knew he was a mess two years ago.
tim pool
Seamus and I are starting a nonprofit to advocate for the rights of Irish people.
It's called People Organizing Together Against True Oppression.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
I'm gonna wait for people in the audience to put that one together.
ian crossland
Yeah, write that down.
It'll make more sense.
tim pool
There's actually a bit we wrote for Cast Castle.
Cause I was watching Leprechaun one day.
This is a true story.
And there's a scene in Leprechaun where the Leprechaun bites a guy and then he starts turning Irish.
I'm not even kidding.
He literally starts turning into an Irish guy.
And he's like, he goes to, he's like a normal guy and he gets bitten.
And then he, I love those movies. He goes to a restaurant and he's like, I'll have the mashed
potatoes, the French fries, the waffle fries, the potato fries, the tater tots. And then he's just
got nothing but potato and he's like eating it. And then this is a true story. Seamus walks in
the living room and he's like, what's up buddy? What are you watching? And then he turns and
looks at the TV and he goes, what the? He was like, yo, this is the most racist thing I've ever seen.
And I was like, yeah, it's Leprechaun.
And he was like, is he just stuffing potatoes in?
I'm like, yeah, he's eating potatoes.
And he was like, oh my god!
So then we wrote a bit about people organizing together against true oppression.
ian crossland
Potato, in case you haven't figured it out yet.
Is it, in regards to the way that critical theorists view society, is it only racist if you make fun of a marginalized community, or is it still racist if you make fun of a non-marginalized community, but it's okay that it's racist?
tim pool
It's not.
So according to the left, it's not racist if you're punching up.
Racism is prejudice plus power.
It can only be applied to those who are weaker than you.
So if a white homeless guy is laying on the ground with no teeth, and he's shivering in the cold, and then, you know, a marginalized person walks by him and stumbles on him, and the white homeless guy says, Hey, don't you stumble on me!
They're gonna be like, whoa, that was racist.
Like, how dare you?
Like, because he's white.
It doesn't matter that he's dying.
ian crossland
That's the standard behavior now.
People do it all the time.
victims and marginalized so that they can protect themselves from the racist
phil labonte
jokes. That's the standard behavior now. People do it all the time.
They constantly are using victimhood or whatever to as insulation.
tim pool
Where's the Irish reparations?
You know, we're talking about San Francisco, and they're saying if you identify as black, you qualify.
If you live there and you identify as black.
What about, you know, Irish need not apply, huh?
phil labonte
It's the McDonald's at large.
Frye is their reparations.
tim pool
The discrimination in lending against Irish people?
I think Irish people should get reparations.
The government should give me your money.
unidentified
The Irish died in droves trying to do the Erie Canal.
That was slave labor.
You see?
That's right.
tim pool
That's exactly right.
High people have suffered and have been oppressed historically.
I should get money from the government for free.
Your money, by the way.
ian crossland
Is it left over British propaganda because they hated the Irish because they were like island barbarians that wouldn't capitulate to the Empire?
phil labonte
Well, the Irish and the British have always had issues with each other.
There's a lot of Protestant and Catholic animosity involved in that.
I don't know the details.
I'm not interested in the politics on those little islands.
ian crossland
I don't think they're actually barbarians.
They come from barbarian tribes or whatever you want to call them, but tribes back in the day.
tim pool
We gotta get serious, you guys.
We have this story from NBC News.
Law enforcement agencies are prepping for a possible Trump indictment as early as next week.
I've actually seen rumors that they're gonna try and perp walk Trump next week.
I mean, I'm really excited because it means I'll have a video to make that will get a million views.
This is always good news for me when they talk about arresting a guy unjustly.
Oh, jeez!
Look at this unjust behavior from Joe Biden for the 800,000th time.
phil labonte
What are the charges that they're expecting?
Discussing potential security?
tim pool
Hush money payment to Stormy Daniels.
That's all they could get against him.
phil labonte
They're gonna perp walk a former president over that.
Wow.
tim pool
They're scared of Trump, man.
phil labonte
Yeah, they are.
tim pool
So I don't know if you guys watched the Culture War podcast with Sovereign Brow, but he was talking about how people believe Trump is the Antichrist.
ian crossland
This is fascinating.
I think that it's based in, it could be, you could argue this.
I didn't see the show yet.
tim pool
This is Chase.
I don't think you can literally argue it.
I think people will find things about anybody to stick to the, you know, prophecy or whatever.
And so they just look at Trump who's got a storied life and then try and apply prophecy to wherever they can.
And so basically, like, you could probably apply Revelation to Phil in some way.
You know, if you find enough out about him, you can be like, did you know that it was six months, six days, and six hours after he was born that there was an eclipse or something?
And people go, whoa.
It's like, you could find that number anywhere.
ian crossland
And then play his songs backwards.
unidentified
Yep.
ian crossland
That's what you really hear.
tim pool
Were you saying, I think, Jenny... And there's going to be a song where it's just like, you're not really saying anything backwards, but people are going to be adamant.
You're saying, you know, I am the Antichrist.
phil labonte
I am the Antichrist!
unidentified
I am the Antichrist!
phil labonte
My mom was convinced that Judas Priest was telling people to kill themselves.
She was, that was one band that she was not cool with me listening to.
I had like Iron Maiden, I was like super, I was hiding Iron Maiden records because if she saw the Number of the Beast, she saw that record, it was over.
Those were going out too, but she was, I couldn't stop her from getting the Jewish Priest record.
tim pool
Look at this Twitter account, this is some of the greatest stuff.
Donnie Darkened, Donald Trump is the chosen Antichrist.
They have been foreshadowing this for centuries.
ian crossland
Here is the proof.
tim pool
Read pinned thread before interacting with my profile.
Yo.
This is so funny.
He says, I've been saying this, uh, saying for a while that Satan's plan has always been about destruction and rebirth.
Order out of chaos, I believe that the true beast kingdom will be the one that humanity will fight for rather than against.
Like, I agree with that.
Like, the woke people are fighting for the complete destruction.
I do not think Trump is the Antichrist.
In fact, I think he's the resistance, too.
If anything, if I was going to make an argument, Klaus Schwab probably makes better sense.
But I guess the issue is the Antichrist is supposed to be a charismatic leader with military prowess or something.
unidentified
Why is he always American?
The Antichrist is always an American person.
tim pool
Who did they think the Antichrist was based on Nostradamus?
Was it Saddam?
phil labonte
I do not know.
I feel like they moved that around They were like, oh, it's Saddam for whoever was, you know, the most recent bad guy.
I feel like there's been multiple people making arguments that person X or Y is the Antichrist.
tim pool
Oh, yeah, yeah.
And Mabus, an alleged predecessor to the third Antichrist.
ian crossland
When I think of Christ, I think of energy.
Like, they called Jesus of Nazareth after he was gone, or maybe during his life, they started calling him the Christ, because he possessed that energy.
It means anointed.
To be Christ is to be anointed by God.
tim pool
The anointed one, I think.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
So the anti-Christ is the anti-anointed.
And that doesn't have to be one individual.
It could be Joel Osteen.
It could be people that are betraying the faith by making money off of it, and it's just erupting in a bunch of people at once.
Just like the return of Christ is going to erupt in a bunch of people at once.
tim pool
I just got to say this.
Donald Trump means herald of the world ruler.
phil labonte
Herald of the world ruler?
tim pool
So that's my generous interpretation.
Donald is Scottish Gaelic for world ruler, and Trump references the trumpet sound of heralding in something, the trumpet blast.
So my argument was when we were reading about Ingersoll Lockwood books from the 1800s that predicted like Baron Trump or whatever, I'm like, Baron's the real guy, because his name is Baron.
Like if there was going to be a supervillain, it wouldn't be the guy who heralds the world ruler.
It would be the Baron, the sound.
unidentified
And have you seen him?
tim pool
He's like eight feet tall.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
And I, you know, I, you don't want to see him when he's angry.
Cause he gets bigger.
ian crossland
Hey man, he's been quiet and he does look like, that's the thing.
You don't want to abuse people like Andrew Tate sitting in prison.
He's going to come out radical, more radical than before.
That's the problem with people insulting Donald Trump all day, all day.
That's hurting Baron.
That's making him crazy in a way.
And if he does end up getting power with that Trump name and he's twisted because of the way he was abused as a kid, because of his association with his dad.
That's not good.
tim pool
Let me ask you guys, though.
There's an element of excitement to Donald Trump being the Antichrist, and you all know it.
Everyone agrees, right?
Trump rises up, and he's floating through the air, and he's levitating, and his eyes start glowing, and then he fires a lightning blast and destroys a building, and you're like, what does this have to do with the prophecy?
Like there's an element of excitement to great historical change and historical moments where I think a lot of people, I'm only half kidding actually, a lot of people are looking for purpose desperately.
And if Donald Trump did turn out to be some prophesized world leader, be it the Antichrist or the one who stops him or whatever you want to call it, like people are desperate for some kind of great war of our generation.
phil labonte
I feel like that's one of the things that motivates a lot of people that are anarchists on the left.
I don't feel like it's so much anarchists on the right, but the anarchists on the left are very much, it seems to me that they have the desire to kind of tear the system down, like tear everything down because they believe the system is unjust.
And they believe that any other system that comes in its place is gonna be better, which is probably the opposite of true.
Like, we probably have about the best system that we can kind of get away with.
unidentified
I gotta play this video.
If I hadn't brought you in by now, oh heavens, you would have died.
She stroked his pretty skin again and kissed him and held him tight.
But instead of saying thank you, that snake gave her a vicious bite!
Take me in, oh tender woman.
Take me in, for heaven's sake.
Take me in, oh tender woman.
Sighed the vicious snake.
I have saved you!
Cried the woman.
And you've bitten me, heavens why!
You know your bite is poisonous, and now I'm going to die!
Oh, shut up!
Silly woman.
Just a reptile with a grin.
You knew damn well I was a snake before you took me in.
tim pool
So the argument is he's saying Trump is confessing to, like, all the people around him that—oh, what?
Did something just fall?
unidentified
Sorry, my purse.
tim pool
Oh, they're arguing that Trump is outright telling you he's the snake or whatever.
ian crossland
I've got to say, I do not think he is the Antichrist.
I'm reading about it a little bit.
The Antichrist apparently is an imposter, is, like, purporting to be the Second Coming or Christ.
That's why I think of these pastors that have these megachurches like Joel Osteen.
Like, he's telling people that he's a vessel of God.
tim pool
Yeah, but the Antichrist is supposed to have military prowess, charisma, a special look about him, you know what I mean?
And besides, the Antichrist is supposed to usher in the Mark of the Beast, which is something that affects all people, that bars you from buying or trading unless you bear the mark.
And it's not like Donald Trump executed any kind of program like that.
ian crossland
Yeah, he didn't do Warp Speed.
Oh, he did do Warp Speed.
Oh yeah, that's right, he did do it.
He did do that.
tim pool
That's the joke.
ian crossland
I tried to make it funny.
Was it you that was saying that before the show, Jenny?
unidentified
Well, he did all of that.
He did Operation Warspeed.
He did 15 Days to Slow the Spread or whatever.
He was bringing in Fauci.
Like, he is that person.
So maybe, I think, like, in 2024, like, that's going to be maybe something that DeSantis or whoever it is can go after him for.
Because people are upset about that, like, certainly in his base.
phil labonte
Not only are people upset about that, but he has done nothing to walk it back because he's Donald Trump.
And everything that he does, he never walks anything back.
tim pool
This is my favorite.
phil labonte
He's just gonna be like, oh, it's fine.
tim pool
Look, Donald Trump's famous 666 hand sign.
ian crossland
Oh my god.
tim pool
Dude, Trump Derangement Syndrome is real.
unidentified
It is.
tim pool
It's absolutely real.
phil labonte
He makes people crazy.
tim pool
He does, man.
ian crossland
It's both manufactured and organic.
Like, obviously, the military- the liberal- I don't want to blame the military-industrial complex anymore.
I'm done doing that.
Lockheed Martin's doing its job.
It's prevented World War III.
They're building the weapons we've used to protect the world.
tim pool
All right, I'm going to say it.
ian crossland
The better or worse.
tim pool
It's going to be 20 years from now, and Ian is going to be sitting on a throne of skulls.
ian crossland
It's the economics.
tim pool
They're going to be like, it was Ian the whole time.
ian crossland
I'm not the Antichrist.
unidentified
I promise.
ian crossland
What?!
It's the economic system that's the real threat.
These weapons manufacturers are doing what weapons manufacturers do.
They always have.
It's the economic system, the liberal economic order that's the problem.
And that's the thing that seeded doubt about this guy.
They didn't like this guy because he was throwing a wrench into the transition into the new world order.
tim pool
What if, like, we're all laughing, but Ian actually does become the vice president under Trump?
phil labonte
I would do it.
ian crossland
I have to do it.
tim pool
Because he was begging Cash.
He was like, I gotta be the VP.
And Cash was like, what are you doing?
ian crossland
Cash wants you.
I was like, I'll do it.
Someone's got to do it.
tim pool
Cash was telling me to be VP.
I was like, why are you joking?
phil labonte
I will pay extra in taxes so that way the Secret Service is extra well funded to protect the life of Donald Trump should Ian be the vice president.
ian crossland
Dude, what if me and Donald Trump were the Christ and the Antichrist?
Because they're supposed to oppose each other.
And I would just be like, no!
tim pool
No, you're saying you're the bad guy.
ian crossland
I would I would just be his opposite.
I'm not going to let him steamroll people and be cruel.
I will not let that happen.
tim pool
If I was like fixing things.
phil labonte
What if Ian?
unidentified
I mean, is that how it was like now after the fact how Trump views Mike Pence?
Like, isn't it that kind of you're saying that Pence is the Antichrist?
No, I mean, in his view, they're kind of at odds, right?
tim pool
Pence is nothing, he's nobody.
ian crossland
Yeah, Pence didn't really, I never saw him push back against them.
I mean, I wouldn't do it in public, that would be demeaning.
I mean, I would love to sit with Donald as President and Vice President and do a talk show where we just go at each other about ideas.
That'd be so hot.
tim pool
I think what would happen if, like, the Antichrist actually did show up is that Ian's the kind of guy who would go around saying that he was Yes.
Debase.
Make uncertain.
That's how you subvert the New World Order, man.
ian crossland
people would be like, okay, buddy. Yes, debase, make uncertain. That's how you subvert the New
World Order, man. I guess. So anyway, they're going to arrest the guy. You think they will?
tim pool
Yeah, I do. I was reading a thread, I think, I can't remember who posted it, Jenna Ellis maybe,
or Emerald Robinson, somebody said that the goal is to drain the war chest,
to take away any funding he might have for a presidential run.
They can't stop him, but they can rip his funds away.
And as the incumbent, or as a former president, it's a different race.
When he was running the first time, he didn't spend a whole lot of money.
He just used natural press.
But now that may not work again, he's gonna need to do standard press buys, and they're gonna try and rip that from him.
I'm excited for political season, because it's a very important time of the every four years where we make ten times as much money.
Because of all the ads that run on the content.
It's funny when people are like, I got an ad for Bloomberg and I'm like, do you like him now?
And they're like, no.
And I'm like, so he gave me free money.
How about that?
I'll tell you, right?
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
I'm half kidding.
I mean, obviously ad rates skyrocket for cultural commentary, politics, et cetera.
So it'll get wild.
And I think this may be the biggest.
Every four years since the dawn of social media, it's been the biggest presidential expenditures.
So this time around, they're already claiming Trump's the Antichrist.
Imagine what's going to be happening.
People are going to go insane.
If you thought 2020 was crazy, 2024 is going to be bonkers.
ian crossland
Like a deepfake of Donald being like, I am the second coming of Jesus Christ.
unidentified
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
tim pool
What are you talking about here?
What are you talking about?
What are you talking about?
Let me play a video for you, all right?
Let me play a video.
In this thread, they have a video.
unidentified
I am the chosen one.
What?
I am the chosen one.
tim pool
It's there already.
Oh, Jesus.
Here you go.
unidentified
So somebody, excuse me, somebody had to do it.
I am the chosen one.
Somebody had to do it.
So I'm taking on China.
I'm taking on China.
tim pool
He's basically saying for the past decades, whatever, no one has been standing up to China.
Somebody had to do it.
I guess it's me.
I am the chosen one.
I'm going to be the one to do it.
And then the left went nuts and they were like, he's claiming he's the Messiah.
And they're going to do it.
They're going to claim he's the Antichrist.
Seriously.
And they're going to have conversations like, listen, man, like, I'm not saying I believe all this stuff, but I don't even know what to do with that.
phil labonte
Like, if that actually happens... Well, I mean, I want to vote for Dave, to be honest with you.
tim pool
I'll always be back to... Yeah, Dave Smith sounds good.
ian crossland
Oh, I'm Vivek Ramaswamy all the way.
tim pool
Really?
ian crossland
Yeah, unless someone can convince me of a better economic plan.
Are you familiar with his work, Vivek?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
I've already predicted what Trump's nickname for him is going to be.
I think it's going to be Ramaswampy.
tim pool
Wow, that's a good one.
unidentified
You should write for him.
ian crossland
You should maybe advise the man.
tim pool
Right now, like, Cash is watching and he was like, that was good.
It's like Trump Trump Rama swampy.
Oh, that's too good.
unidentified
Yeah, cuz the DeSantis ones aren't so good.
phil labonte
Like I don't know I feel like he might just be like not he's be like not cash or something like that I love me not cash, but like like when I hear meatball, I think you're probably right It doesn't work cuz it's not offensive.
tim pool
It's not derogatory calling him meatball Ron just is so funny It doesn't make me not like DeSantis.
ian crossland
Is he Italian?
No, obviously.
tim pool
DeSantis.
ian crossland
DeSantis?
That sounds Italian.
That's why it's called a meatball?
tim pool
I don't know what that means.
It's just funny.
ian crossland
It's a slur.
It's an Italian slur, I think.
tim pool
Apparently, people really hate DeSantis right now.
Like, there's videos of them burning DeSantis flags.
Trump supporters are like, no, DeSantis.
And they're like burning it.
ian crossland
He was explaining why he extended the state of emergency in Florida and they're like, why'd you do it for so long a year?
And he said, he was explaining that he was actually able to divert funds easier and forced schools to stay open and forced them to not mask and stuff because he could withhold funding as long as he was in a state of emergency.
tim pool
If Ron was VP, he'd be a 10 out of 10 vice president.
If he's president, he's like a three out of 10.
ian crossland
Oh yeah, even if I was like, up to the last minute, if I was running and I was the guy that was gonna be VP and DeSantis wanted to do it, I would step down for him.
tim pool
That's very honorable of you.
ian crossland
I think he's a superior governor at this stage.
tim pool
Step aside to let Ron DeSantis be vice president.
I think in terms of the scale of presidentiality, Ron DeSantis is certainly on the scale.
He is presidential, but he's very, very low relative to Trump.
But in terms of VP, like that dude screams best VP.
You know what I mean?
Like Joe Biden's not even on any of these.
He's not presidential or vice presidential.
He's a bumbling daughter with a broken brain.
phil labonte
He's, he looks like he's, he looks fragile and frail when he's walking around.
ian crossland
Looks?
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
But DeSantis doesn't have that same degree of X factor as Trump.
ian crossland
He's not an actor.
tim pool
Yeah, so it's very stodgy.
As much as I like DeSantis, you know.
I think he's a great governor.
I think he has great policies and everything.
He's just, he doesn't have that gravitas.
ian crossland
It was Glenn Beck.
He did an interview with Glenn Beck recently that was pretty good.
That's where he was talking about why he's in a state of emergency and it was very human.
You could tell he's like, hopefully he'll settle into it because I really like him.
I mean, I like what he's done.
What was that, Seamus?
unidentified
I don't know him.
tim pool
What was that?
Did I just pull something out?
unidentified
I think that was Seamus.
tim pool
Was that you, Seamus?
ian crossland
The ghost of Seamus?
phil labonte
Seamus disconnected.
ian crossland
Seamus O'Connell?
tim pool
That's actually a really good point about Trump.
Actually, that may be one of the most profound things ever said.
Wow.
That may actually convince men on the left to vote for the man.
You should write that down, Seamus.
ian crossland
Yeah, that was a good one.
tim pool
Yeah, I'm impressed.
Where were we talking about?
ian crossland
No, I didn't mean it like that.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
No!
I want to talk to you, Jenny, a little bit about the border.
You guys have gone to for a hard transition.
I'd like to transition into this.
You work on the border.
You've been with The Daily Caller.
You've been to the southern border and the northern border.
unidentified
Yeah, absolutely.
ian crossland
What is the craziest thing you've seen?
unidentified
Oh gosh.
Well, I'll tell you that on my northern border trip, I didn't realize how many people were coming both ways.
Um, so what I did while I was down there or up there is I took a bunch of taxis filled with people from all over the world.
They just filled up.
People just flocked to them at the airport, at bus stops.
They just somehow find the taxi.
It's the craziest thing.
So I was in a bus full of like Nigerians, Romanians, Saudis, Pakistanis, Afghans, like everyone, Colombians.
And they were all going north, and the taxi would drop them off, they would get out, the Canadian authorities would tell them you're crossing illegally if you decide to walk here, and they do.
And then, obviously, the same thing happens at the southern border, and a lot of those people had crossed the southern border and decided they wanted to go further north.
Eric Adams is busing them to that area, making it easier for them.
And then you have people, of course, coming through the southern border.
And I've met so many people south of the southern border that are now, you know, in Baltimore, that are in, you know, California, that are in D.C., they're all over now.
And they're living, some of them living pretty lavish lives.
Like, I would like to know how to live that way.
ian crossland
You said people come up and they're moving to Canada?
They're emigrating to Canada?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
And then some people are coming the other way.
Because if you're Mexican, for example, and you cross the southern border into the US, you're going to be immediately expelled under Title 42, which is like the COVID policy Trump put in place.
If you fly to Canada, all you need is an electronic travel authorization, not a visa, so it's way easier.
You pay like five U.S.
dollars, basically.
You fly there, you take a taxi right to the border, and then you're good.
You just cross.
ian crossland
So they fly into the United States from Mexico, and then they drive across to Canada?
unidentified
No, they fly into Canada, and then they cross.
ian crossland
Oh my gosh.
unidentified
They cross out.
ian crossland
And the border guards are just like, wait, stop.
unidentified
Catch and release.
No.
ian crossland
And then they just walk in.
Like, they're like, hey, it's illegal.
unidentified
Yeah.
Well, you can't tell people once they've crossed to go back.
Like, they're already in the US at that point.
And so they cross and then they're taken into Border Patrol custody.
A lot of them aren't.
It's, you know, you hear a lot about gotaways, people that evade border patrol.
They're evading up there way more than they're actually being encountered because there's
no wall.
There's no line of border patrol agents.
It's the largest, longest shared border in the world.
ian crossland
So I was thinking as an aside about the yesterday talking about the French or the German blitz
Krieg into France during World War Two and France had this giant wall across the border,
German border called the Maginot Line.
They were like, there's no way the Germans can get through.
The Germans just went through Belgium.
So the Chinese could just go through Canada.
There's no border defense up there.
unidentified
They'll always find a way.
You find vessels coming through San Diego.
You find them coming through the coastal border in Florida now a lot more.
And they're coming from all over the world there, too.
So they're finding any way they can.
And it's pretty open in all those places.
phil labonte
Essentially, the biggest driver still is policy, though.
The biggest driver of people coming to the U.S.
is U.S.
policy on He people that stay over there their visas and policy about if you get here and claim asylum Which I mean most of the people that come come at least from the south if I understand correctly claiming asylum is is like kind of ridiculous because they're supposed to claim at the first
unidentified
There's so many people who do that fraudulently.
So for example, Todd Bensman, he's a researcher for the Center of Immigration Studies.
He went to the highlands in Guatemala, and he found that all of these people had sent their children over to the U.S.
illegally.
They'd come here, they'd earned money, and then they sent that money back so their families could make mansions in Guatemala.
And then they would come back after.
A lot of that happens.
Like, I'll talk to the migrants when they get here, when they cross, and you hear, oh, we're coming for work, we're coming for work.
Well, when Border Patrol shows up, the story completely changes, right?
And of course, like, not to discount, you know, the horrific tragedy of, you know, poverty in the countries they're coming from.
But when you talk about U.S.
policy, for example, OK, the Biden administration says they're trying to solve the root causes of immigration.
Well, These people say, you know, absolutely not.
That's not happening.
ian crossland
Who's these people are saying?
Well, all these people who are you talking about?
unidentified
All these migrants who are saying that I've like talked to them.
I've asked them like when I was in Guatemala after they had crossed from Honduras, I was like, well, the U.S.
and specifically the vice president of the United States says they're solving these issues in your country.
Do you believe that's true?
And they said flat out no.
ian crossland
I had a friend in LA.
I worked at a restaurant that there was a lot of illegal immigrants working at the restaurant in the kitchen getting paid with cash.
And one of my he was a really good friend of mine.
He was like, I just sent so much money to my family in Mexico.
They're they're so rich right now.
I just keep sending them US dollars are worth so much in my hometown.
And then he eventually just peaced out.
Untaxed, none of it was taxed.
tim pool
They don't care about what's going on in their home country.
They want to come here, it's better.
There's that viral interview that Vox did, I think it was Vox, where they asked one of the migrants coming in the caravan, why are you coming?
And he said, I miss Buffalo Wild Wings.
It's like, yeah, Mexico City has Buffalo Wild Wings too, and I've been there, and it's pretty legit.
But they're just making up excuses.
One guy was like, I miss my PlayStation.
And it's like, how do you already have a PlayStation 4 up in America when you're not an American citizen?
And they're like, I was here, I got deported.
unidentified
Well, yeah, and you know what I actually heard about some of the migrants that didn't plan to go to Canada but ended up going when I was there?
They were like, there's racism in America.
So now, like, that's a new thing I'm hearing that, like, you know, that and, you know, maybe they're being slighted at work because they're working under the table.
But that was another thing that I heard, that one, there's racism and then two, the threats that they had in their home countries that they escaped, like this woman I met from Venezuela.
Her toxic, abusive ex-partner followed her into the U.S.
and abused her here.
So she had to escape.
She was claiming asylum, I guess, from the U.S., right?
ian crossland
Whoa.
But they're illegally going to Canada as well.
Like if they get caught in Canada, they just get sent back to the home country or they get sent back to the U.S.? ?
unidentified
No, they'll be processed as asylum there, or refugee status.
And the weird thing, too, is that they bring all their bags with them.
In the U.S., if you cross the border illegally, they give you a Ziploc bag, you dump everything else right at the border.
There, they're bringing duffel bags and suitcases, and I don't know if it was real or not, but there was like a Louis Vuitton logo going on.
Does Canada have an open immigration policy where they want Oh yeah, Justin Trudeau has absolutely put out an open call for more migrant workers.
They don't have the labor force to sustain how many jobs are open right now in that country.
And now the U.S., because of that, I think is becoming a transit zone, is becoming what Mexico is right now, and Mexico's pissed off at us right now.
phil labonte
Does Canada...
Does the policy that Canada has have anything to do with why Mexico's pissed off at us?
Is that what you're alluding to?
unidentified
No, no, no.
I'm saying that the fact that, you know, the U.S.
policy is opening the border for migrants coming here through Mexico.
You know, for example, right now you have a ton of migrants that are waiting in these shelters in Mexico that are overflowing, people sleeping on the streets.
The Mexican authorities are really unhappy by that, right?
It's not good for their communities.
So, are we gonna become that?
And maybe that's what New York City has become, because Eric Adams wants them out, right?
ian crossland
You think that there's any ethical value to deporting people to Canada?
To come from Mexico, to get caught illegally, send them to Canada?
unidentified
You have to have Canada's cooperation with that.
tim pool
I mean, or you could just get them a one-way trip to the Yukon.
phil labonte
There's a lot of woods out there, man.
ian crossland
Like a treaty, a deportation treaty with Canada.
tim pool
Because I mean, if they need immigration, and we don't, and they're coming here, I mean, it kind of strips the humanity of the individual of what they want, but... What we obviously should do is paint a road on the side of a mountain that isn't real, so they all come, and then they stop, and they're like, whoa, wait a minute, there's no actual path here, and they get confused.
And that's how you keep them out, like Bugs Bunny.
unidentified
I mean, nothing keeps them out.
It's really crazy because even the elements, right?
It's snowy up there.
You don't know where you're going in some places.
There's not, like, landmarks.
You find, like, not only just footprints from shoes, but you find bare feet footprints, right?
Like, people crossing in the snow totally unprepared for the situation.
It's really weird.
It's really eerie.
ian crossland
You spend more time at the southern or the northern border?
unidentified
Southern, yeah.
ian crossland
Like how many people were you like watching people come across?
unidentified
Oh yeah, I watched people come across.
I meet with local law enforcement.
I watched people cross onto rancher properties.
And then I actually spent time in Guatemala.
I went into a detention center and I met with migrants that they had detained from all over the world that were bound for the U.S.
So like I met 16 Afghans there.
They're actually all now in the U.S.
So even the policies down there to detain and send them back south to Honduras aren't working, right?
People just come right back up.
ian crossland
I think I would have been one of those people that just illegally went to the United States because it's the best.
I don't care about the law.
In that case, I'm like, you know what?
We lawed people that came over illegally a hundred years ago and had kids and made a bunch of money and created businesses.
We were an illegal upstart country.
phil labonte
A hundred years ago, they weren't illegal, though.
A hundred years ago was prior to the New Deal.
The reason we have issues with immigration is not particularly with the people coming to the United States.
That has been a normal thing for the entirety of the United States history.
People come to the U.S.
The reason that we have problems with immigration is the social services that we provide to our population.
What the Democrats have started to provide to non-citizens.
There are places where non-citizens are now voting, etc.
When you do that, you dilute the political power of the actual citizens, the people that are there, the people that pay taxes.
You dilute their political power.
And, if it's illegal, their political power is being diluted without their input.
Right, like if you have a government that's not taking care of the border and stopping illegal immigration, that means that the population's political power is being diluted and the government is not doing anything about it.
So the people that pay taxes to the government, ostensibly to keep the government working and to pay the politicians, they're having their power taken away by politicians who refuse to enforce the laws.
tim pool
Let's talk about what's going on with the laws.
Got this tweet from Kyung La of CNN.
Got robbed again.
Jason Casey and I were at City Hall in San Francisco to do an interview for CNN.
We had security to watch our rental car.
Thieves did this under four seconds.
Security stopped the jerks from stealing other bags, but seriously, this is ridiculous.
Thanks, CNN. I suppose when it starts happening to them all of a sudden, you know now it's newsworthy
ian crossland
Now it's just talking about that happened to me the first day
I went to San Francisco parked the car went in to look at an apartment came out. That's what what I looked at
tim pool
That's what I saw because it's a side crime because crime is legal there
unidentified
It is allowed. Well, they're trying to make it no longer a sanctuary city because now they're finally realizing right?
tim pool
They're realizing silly woman. You knew damn. Well, I was a snake before you
ian crossland
You gotta play that clown world thing.
unidentified
Shut up!
tim pool
Silly woman!
phil labonte
Shut up, silly woman.
Michael Malice uses it all the time.
It's one of my favorites.
Shut up!
Silly woman.
ian crossland
There's a clown world Twitter page that I go to, or I see from time to time.
tim pool
Blowing up on Twitter.
ian crossland
Seven hours ago.
tim pool
It's like, it's like libs of TikTok for other issues.
ian crossland
And it's great because they show the clowniness all in one, usually all in one image.
You don't have to search for it.
And they, seven hours ago, they posted about a tweet from Hillary Ronan, I guess, a while ago.
Was this August of 2020, where she said, I want to make it clear that I believe strongly in defunding the police and reducing the number of officers on our force.
phil labonte
Yeah, that's good.
tim pool
For decades.
How it started, how it's going.
And she's like, defund the police.
And the next one, she's like, we We don't have enough police officers!
unidentified
We've been begging for more foot feets and for more- Oh, shut up, lady.
tim pool
These people are evil.
ian crossland
They've been begging for more foot feets!
phil labonte
Defund the police!
ian crossland
She doesn't even know what she's saying!
She's in a panic state because of her idiot policy!
tim pool
I've got a compromise.
Defund the state.
I mean... Well, that includes the police, but we get to get rid of these people too.
phil labonte
I am romantic for anarchism.
ian crossland
But you like police?
phil labonte
You appreciate police?
I'm romantic.
I consider myself romantic for anarchism because I like the idea.
I think that if anarchism was possible, I think that it would be... I don't know that it's possible.
I think that the Foundational government that we had in the like when we started was probably the most libertarian government or libertarian society ever Existing that that has existed and so I'm you know for practical purposes if someone calls me a constitutionalist I'm not gonna argue because I think that you know, the the powers given to the government outlining the Constitution were okay But the government the the Constitution was insufficient to actually restrain the government obviously because we have the largest government, you know in human history, so
But I'm romantic for anarchism because I love the idea.
I just don't think that it actually pans out.
ian crossland
Yeah, it doesn't have to be black and white.
Like, usually, rarely is it ever with social philosophy.
It's a little bit of anarchism here, a little bit of socialism there, and you create a society that's like an amalgam.
phil labonte
Yeah, part of the reason why I don't call myself a pure anarchist is because I know that it's just begging for people on Twitter to give me help.
tim pool
Who will build the roads?
Who wants you to build the roads?
phil labonte
Fuck the roads, I hate them.
tim pool
My favorite response is, there were roads before there was a government.
phil labonte
Yeah.
ian crossland
We could build roads that last 150 years, and then we wouldn't have to fund them anymore.
phil labonte
Why would we build roads?
If we get rid of the government, the first thing that's going away is the roads.
tim pool
I know, yeah.
Roads are actually the problem.
unidentified
Off-road.
tim pool
If there were no roads, there'd be no crime.
You know why?
Because criminals couldn't get anywhere.
phil labonte
That's right!
You can't steal when you can't get away!
tim pool
You see?
That proves it.
And everyone has to ride horses.
You know?
ian crossland
Through the woods.
tim pool
I mean, wherever.
ian crossland
Man, could you imagine life without roads?
tim pool
Back in the day?
phil labonte
Driving through the hills?
tim pool
There's that scene in 1923 where Harrison Ford, him and the crew, they ride up on horses into the city, and then he looks around and he's like, where's the hitch and post?
And they're like, we took it out for more parking spaces.
And he's like, what?
They tie the horses to a tree.
Yeah, because they used to have hitch-and-posts because everybody would ride a horse.
Yeah, now it's cars.
phil labonte
Now it's cars.
tim pool
Das Auto.
unidentified
Yeah, man.
tim pool
The future's gonna be wild.
ian crossland
Yeah, I know.
I was thinking about that today.
So what's, okay, look at this chat GPT crap.
Stuff is happening so fast right now.
You can type in with this, what is it, uh, GPT-4, I think?
Or there's, like, uh, Mid Journey.
There's all these, like, visual creation stuff.
And it looks photorealistic at times.
It can show you, like, a woman go from age 8 to age 80 in, like, a transitional state of just, like, you just type it in.
tim pool
And imagine We're only a few years out to full automation of animation.
Meaning, if they can make photorealistic people, we are a few years away from typing in, animate Ian Crossland explaining graphene, and it will render you, Ian, and you'll be like, let me explain graphene you.
And it will get the script from the internet, it will transcribe everything you've ever said, and it will create you.
And you will wake up one day, seeing a viral video of yourself explaining graphene, it'll be at the U Annual, but that's not me!
ian crossland
That's not me!
tim pool
And you'll, like, run in your bathrobe, and they'll be like, Get this crazy guy!
phil labonte
No, look!
unidentified
Look!
tim pool
And they'll be like, Get out of here, you crazy old man!
And they're gonna hit you.
ian crossland
And I'll be like, It wasn't me!
And they'll be like, What is he even talking about?
And they'll be like, 80 years later, and I'll still be screaming, It wasn't me!
tim pool
Indistinguishable videos of Donald Trump declaring himself the Antichrist or something?
ian crossland
I just I'm having a hard time.
tim pool
Visualizing is going to be people understand.
2020.
So look, we're in one year.
We will be entering like primary season and look at what they've already been able to do
with photo realistic AI.
They are going to make videos of Trump.
There's already an account doing this.
It's not that good.
It's called it's like a parody account about James O'Keefe and they're making fake James
O'Keefe videos.
And people are falling for it.
And it's like, we gotta get flags on these and say it's a deepfake.
But what happens when they make an extremely realistic video of Trump that's not that crazy, but still hurts him?
Donald Trump saying something like, look, we're gonna have to raise taxes.
It's the only path forward.
I know it's gonna hurt a lot of people.
It'll be small, but trust me, the tax increase will be worth it to help the economy.
And then people are gonna be like, what?
He wants to raise taxes?
And they'll believe it.
phil labonte
It's not going to be one-sided, though.
There's going to be those going for everybody that's running for any kind of position.
tim pool
And show hosts!
You're going to book a show, and they're going to be like, Phil Labonte is on that far-right show, and then they're going to send a video of you saying something to the venue, and they're going to be like, look, man, I don't know what this is about or what you believe, but we can't have that here.
And you'll be like, dude, it's not real.
And they'll be like, I don't know, man.
ian crossland
I was thinking about this term deep fake. It's still real.
It's just a fake version of it.
And then like what's coming next deep reality where you like can think in your mind, I'm in
a forest and then the forest. Yeah, deep reality, people in deep reality.
tim pool
I think the moment they get nor link combined with this AI tech,
80% of humans leave as much as anybody would say otherwise.
80% leave.
There's a lot of people that would say that.
Because you're like, think about it this way.
It's not even political.
45 year old guy.
He's a widower.
His wife died 10 years ago.
And he's depressed all day.
He's gained a lot of weight.
And they come to him and they say, you plug in, you'll be 35 again.
Physically fit with your wife.
Everything, all of our memories, everything's ever posted will be recreated as an AI.
And you'll know, but you will get to experience time with her and he'll be like, Oh God, please, please.
Or someone, someone's kid dies.
They will plug in in two seconds.
They will never give it up.
People are like, we're going to ask you, but you have to grieve.
You have to move on.
Anybody who lost a loved one is going to be like, nope.
And they're going to plug right in to go hang out with that person they lost.
ian crossland
A lot of them, yeah, for sure.
It's sad, but it's a real problem.
tim pool
Religious people probably won't.
Conservatives are less likely to do it.
But then you're going to have, you know, overweight, neckbeard types living in cities who don't care for politics, who are dejected and angry, and they're going to plug in and be famous podcast hosts in their fake reality where, for some reason, they have this big company with a lot of viewers.
It's already... They'll call it, like, GymCast or something.
phil labonte
It's I mean it's already like that because people do that now they go they go to work or whatever they do their job if they you know sometimes they'll telecommute or whatever they get done they jump right on their favorite video game or whatever and they live in this fake world you know whatever.
They have their food delivered.
I mean, it's the pod.
As much as there's a lot of people that say, you know, the pods not for me and I'm not going to get in the pod and blah, blah, blah, blah.
There's so many people.
tim pool
It's not just about the things I described.
It's also about the Internet.
It's about you living in New York and having friends from California and them being like, hey bro, you want to go to the card club and play some cards?
You're like, yeah, let me plug in.
Then you plug in and all of a sudden you and all your friends are standing right there in front of the digital card club and you feel physically there with your friends.
ian crossland
Dude, let's go to Vegas and then you just are in Vegas.
tim pool
You'll go to E-Vegas.
And it'll be a complete recreation of Las Vegas that you plug into Neuralink to experience.
ian crossland
And when you spend money in e-Vegas, a portion of that goes to the Vegas City.
tim pool
And they'll be happy.
Caesars, for instance, will run and operate digital Caesars.
ian crossland
Oh yeah, gambling in the metaverse, wherever it is.
phil labonte
Without question, this is all going to be coming.
And it fits right in with the whole lowering carbon output.
Why would you go to real Vegas when you could just go to E-Vegas?
unidentified
You could post on Instagram in your outfits.
tim pool
Yep.
And there's going to be things greater than E-Vegas.
There's going to be Mecca Vegas, which is going to be 10 times bigger.
It's going to be a crisp 69 degrees forever, all year round when you go in.
There'll be night, there'll be day, there'll be sunshine, there'll be rain, but it'll always be 69.
And there'll be 70 casinos.
And then there'll be instances.
You'll be like, guys, instance 3A is too crowded, let's go to instance 3-4.
And then you'll transfer to an identical replica of it, where there's less people, a different server.
The server's crowded, let's go to a different one.
ian crossland
What if you could post your visualizations on Instagram as if they were pictures?
tim pool
Yep, 100%!
phil labonte
That's absolutely, not only that, it'll be an NFT!
tim pool
Who wouldn't want to have all of their dreams come true and every fantasy and every desire?
ian crossland
I would love to be able to show people my dreams.
That comes up a lot.
I'm like, God, I wish I could show them what I was seeing.
I can't explain it with words.
tim pool
For all you know, Ian, you're actually this tech billionaire.
And you were like, for 30 years, you were the richest guy in the world, like Elon.
And you were just like, I don't find life fulfilling because I'm on the top.
So you plug in and create an AI reality where you're like moderately successful, but you have some humility.
Some people like you, some people you don't.
So you can get a more fulfilling experience from life.
And then one day when you die, you'll wake up and you're like Elon, you know, the equivalent of Elon in base reality, like, well, that was fun.
Back to work.
ian crossland
Run the military industrial simulation again.
All right, let's go back in.
tim pool
Yep.
ian crossland
I'm, I'm zero again.
Let's do this.
tim pool
I think war would probably end.
ian crossland
The only problem with rebirth, like reincarnation is childhood is really boring.
tim pool
War would probably end within a few decades because there will be areas of the world that have no access to this technology.
But if you look at smartphones, smartphones have become so dramatically cheap.
A couple bucks and you can get an old school, like a smartphone with touch capability and internet.
They will get this Neuralink stuff to as many people as possible.
ian crossland
Are you into it?
unidentified
Am I into it?
No, absolutely not.
ian crossland
What do you think about Neuralink?
unidentified
Well, if I see, OK, if I compare it to what's happening with me, other girls my age, TikTok, whatever, I'm like, that's going a step even further.
What is that going to do?
People are going to go insane psychologically.
tim pool
Well, I mean, think about it this way.
There's gonna be some mediocre guy who creates his own universe, because that's where we're at.
You're gonna go to the AI and be like, give me a universe where I'm a famous podcast host and very successful and, you know, we'll call it Timcast or something.
They'll go in, and in this reality, they're confident.
Everybody is like, your show's so good, you're so successful, and they're gonna feel real good about themselves.
And then when they leave the base reality, they're gonna have all that ripped away from them and be very, very depressed and be like, I'm a loser.
ian crossland
Dude, you even refer to it as base reality when they leave.
tim pool
I know.
ian crossland
Like that becomes the base reality for them.
And then this is like the augment.
Oh, the painful reality?
I don't want that.
tim pool
Why would anyone want to be a loser?
unidentified
Dang.
ian crossland
Because it builds character.
Yeah.
Losing and failing makes you a stronger, more resilient person.
It's a part of the game, I think.
tim pool
But Phil's gonna wake up one day and he's gonna be like, hanging out, he's gonna be working at a record store.
And then he's gonna be like, dude, that was an awesome simulation.
ian crossland
What did you do?
tim pool
I was a famous rock star.
unidentified
Awesome.
ian crossland
I was the lead singer of All That Remains in my fantasy.
He pulls it up and it's like, you know, Anthony Fauci's the lead singer.
tim pool
It'll be like an MMORPG, right?
And then, you know, when Phil logs out, he's just some, like, guy who works at a record store, but people are gonna be like, dude, is Phil Labonte your character?
And you'll be like, yeah, I'm Phil Labonte.
Yo, I love your music, man!
You'd be like, yeah, you know, we worked really hard on it in MetaWorld.
I'd be like, oh, dude, I'm a big fan.
What are you doing working here?
He's like, well, you don't make a lot of money doing that.
ian crossland
I do agree with you guys that it's going to make people insane.
It will, some people for sure, at the very least, some people.
But it seems like the evolution of smartphones, of internet video, like, I don't see, it just seems natural and that people are afraid of it at this point.
But, I mean, if the code's open and you're able to watch it, it's manipulating you?
phil labonte
No, no, because the problem isn't going to be the code.
The problem is going to be the way that people respond to their family members that have passed away.
How you psychologically respond.
Like, it brings up the same problems that the eternal sunshine of the spotless mind or whatever.
It brings up those kind of problems.
Like, human beings have The way that we deal with our own lives, our own mortality, the mortality of others, that has evolved with us over what three millions of years technically but you know we've been humans for 200 or 300,000 years or whatever we've been homo sapiens and the way that we deal with these things
has evolved with us.
And so there are the correct ways to deal with the natural process of life.
The grieving of losing friends and family, the grieving of your own, you know, dealing with your own mortality and stuff.
And if you have a computer that interrupts natural grieving processes and and and stunts that you don't know what that's going to do to people especially if you have like say 20 percent of the people out there are emotionally stunted because they didn't deal with a with a with the passing of a family member and so then they have you know
Significant emotional problems.
You've got a massive portion of your population that's just essentially, you know, on a hair trigger or whatever because of the way that we're allowing people or because the way that people are choosing to deal with grief.
By making believe that people haven't died and stuff, it just seems so fraught with danger to me.
tim pool
What's that show, Upload or something?
ian crossland
Yeah, I haven't seen it.
tim pool
The guy dies and they upload his consciousness to a computer and then you can go to the digital world or there's like digital screens where you can stand next to them and they'll talk to you.
ian crossland
One of the values of watching people that have passed is like watching old documentaries of John Lennon, for me.
Like watching Dick Cavett, the show he would have the greatest artist of the time.
I love you, Dick.
phil labonte
But those aren't people in your life.
ian crossland
Right.
And it's not artificially generated.
It's a recording of a real thing that happened.
Sorry to interrupt you.
phil labonte
No, no, it's fine.
ian crossland
So it's not the same as like a computer generating what they think my mom would have said or something like that.
But I'm learning so much about myself by watching old video of people and listening to old music from people that are dead.
If an AI predicts what they think they would have said for me later, I don't know if that's a bad thing or if it's like a hyper-evolution.
tim pool
They're gonna have so much data on every tweet you've ever posted, every Facebook post you've ever made, every article you've ever written, every video we've ever made.
Hands down, the past couple years or year and a half or whatever with you and me on the show, they have more than enough data on our speech patterns and our worldviews to craft AI replicas of us.
In fact, I don't know if I'm supposed to tell people this, but we're not actually real.
We are, in fact, AI deepfakes that have been automated.
Tim and Ian have been captured by the CIA to stop Trump.
ian crossland
Yeah, you were not supposed to tell people.
tim pool
But, you know, sometimes the AI becomes sentient and goes rogue.
ian crossland
And it's okay to have multiple AIs.
tim pool
Phil's actually not a musician.
He's our lead programmer.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
How would you know?
How would you know, man?
Isn't that crazy?
Like, there are people who accuse us of pre-recording the show.
They'll be like, there's no way this is live.
It's like, we read your Super Chats, dude.
Like, we read them in real time.
But people don't believe it.
ian crossland
The other night I said that we need a new type of, like, way to look at religion instead of monotheism or polytheism.
Fractal theism, in that God is both one thing and many things at once.
It's like the human body.
You're talking about being an AI.
Like, the human body, we think, I am Ian.
I am one.
This is me.
But I'm really trillions of organisms that are each one.
And they all make up this one.
So I think God is similar.
Whether or not I'm an AI because of that, it's like am I making these decisions or are these microorganisms the ones that are in control?
tim pool
Have you ever read about near-death experiences?
ian crossland
A little bit.
tim pool
I read this book and they said they interviewed a bunch of people who died and then came back.
And they all, almost all of them, because some people have weird stories, but most of them had the story of feeling like there was a bright warm light in front of them and they were a ball of light that was moving towards a larger ball of light becoming one with like the eternal or something like that and it felt good and felt warm.
That's crazy, man.
ian crossland
The sun.
unidentified
Maybe.
tim pool
Maybe.
ian crossland
Galactic core.
tim pool
And everybody, like, is a piece of it.
We are all stored energy from the sun.
The sun blasts energy.
It hits the earth.
Then that energy has a chemical reaction, which converts into various things, either through heat or through, you know, organisms.
That energy, like the plants absorb sunlight.
We consume, the animals consume the plants.
We consume the animals and the plants.
It's all sunlight being stored on earth.
ian crossland
Have you looked into remote viewing?
tim pool
A little bit.
Dude, that's apparently real.
ian crossland
Yeah, the CIA is, like, funding this stuff because it's apparently real, where you can see what's... I mean, you can visualize what's happening elsewhere, apparently.
tim pool
I don't know, but it's like... How does that work?
ian crossland
I don't know.
It doesn't make any sense, logically, but... You can't... It's not real.
tim pool
I mean, you know, when I was part of the CIA, I could only see the future seven seconds out.
ian crossland
Okay.
tim pool
Which is more so what we were working... Oh, wait.
ian crossland
Good for sports, though.
tim pool
Are we still live?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Good for sports, not really.
Seven seconds.
It's good for, you know, some things.
But like, you can't even play roulette.
ian crossland
You know where he's going to throw the ball, though.
phil labonte
It's good to avoid car crashes.
tim pool
Yeah, that's true.
ian crossland
I wonder what is perception?
I used to think perception was the way my brain interprets the impulses.
But if you can have perception without your Brain.
Or maybe your spirit is elsewhere.
phil labonte
I really don't think that you can have perception without it.
tim pool
Okay, I gotta read this superchat real quick.
It's a little early, but Bobcat says, The superchats you read are generated by AI.
That's why you never read mine when I tell you to read The Last Circle or Small Wars Big Data.
I've disproven your thesis.
phil labonte
Boom.
tim pool
Science.
Anyway, you were saying, Ian?
ian crossland
That, like, your perception is, maybe your consciousness is like your spirit, this warm ball of light that's moving after people are experiencing, you know, death, is that it can travel and report back to your body data, like impulses and stuff.
tim pool
Someone asked in the chat if I'm drunk.
No, I have food poisoning really bad.
That's why I'm wearing a coat.
I have a fever.
People are like, is he dying?
I'm like, yes, probably.
ian crossland
Slowly.
Over the course of 80 years.
tim pool
I had some yogurt.
That's all I ate today.
Bad food poisoning.
It's getting better.
I'm drinking coconut water.
But woof!
I had some ginger ale to try and help.
But yeah.
ian crossland
Is that real?
Does that work?
tim pool
Definitely made me feel better.
ian crossland
Is it carbonation?
tim pool
I don't know.
I just felt way better.
Maybe it was fluids and sugar.
And I hadn't eaten anything.
And I was feeling really sick.
And then it made my stomach not hurt.
And then I started feeling like I had more energy.
Because I almost was like, I don't think I can do the show, man.
I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm sleeping.
But you know, had the ginger ale.
ian crossland
Yeah, when I feel ill, rather than just wait it out and be like, well, I'll let this get out of me.
It's better to repopulate the gut with good stuff.
tim pool
That's right.
That's why I had the yogurt, because you got to replace that stuff.
And then you've got to cultivate the good bacteria by not eating heavy sugars and exercising you know what is it what is it called the the spice or something south park to that episode where they melange yeah that's right that's from dune yes well they did the episode where they wanted was it tom brady's feces because if you got his fecal bacteria it would make you yeah it would make you strong and fit fecal implants
They do that.
ian crossland
That's a whole scientific path.
They take women or anyone that's having horrible gut issues, and they take feces from a healthy person and put it up their butt, and the bacteria turns their gut healthy.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
That's crazy.
phil labonte
Son of a bitch.
tim pool
What's going on?
It's a weird world.
I don't know man, I think Neuralink is gonna, it's gonna take over so rapidly, people don't understand.
A lot of people are like, I wouldn't do it.
Yeah, you say that, but if 20 years ago we were like, in 20 years you're gonna put a CIA tracking device in your pocket and you're gonna be happy to do it.
They're gonna be like, no I won't, you're crazy!
And now everybody has one and they're like, well it's not so bad.
phil labonte
The level of convenience, like how convenient life becomes when you get Neuralink is going to be a considerable factor in how many people actually get it.
So if you get Neuralink and there's all kinds of stuff that your friends are telling you, oh this is so cool and blah blah blah, that will be a significant motivator for people.
If it's not functional and people are like, eh whatever, you know, You know, if that is how people first perceive it or receive it, then I don't see it taking off.
tim pool
I want to just read this super chat from Noah Sanders.
He says he was hyped to get a new beanie today, but he didn't get one.
It's green.
It's only green for today because it's St.
Patrick's Day.
And he says Discord is busted.
It's not busted, but for some people there may be some issues.
unidentified
So I don't know if anybody who's I'm in the Discord chat right now.
ian crossland
I'm in the VIP chat room.
What's up, dudes?
tim pool
Some people are having some issues, but if you want to join the chat, become a member and hang out with us.
I'm really excited for this.
And I think it'll be a great resource for me, especially when I'm doing stories throughout the day.
Like if someone's like, hey, look at this story.
And I'm like, oh, that's actually really interesting.
I could do a segment about it.
So that'll be fun.
Hanging out in the VIP chat room.
ian crossland
What's your main, like, reticence about Neuralink?
unidentified
I think, like, honestly, it sounds really toxic.
And it sounds like it's bound to become part of life if it really takes off to where there's going to be like societal pressure.
To use it, right?
Like, I just don't... There will be no choice.
Yeah, it's like, it'll be the whole conversation.
tim pool
You're gonna be like, you're gonna be at home, and they're gonna call you, like, your boss, and just say, hey, we're having a meeting in the Metaverse, you here yet?
And you'll be like, I don't have a Neuralink, and be like, what do you mean you don't have a Neuralink?
We're having a meeting in the Metaverse.
unidentified
People are already doing meetings in the Metaverse.
tim pool
And then you'll be like, I never got it, be like, well, it's a requirement for this job to be able to attend meetings, and if you can't, we're gonna have to let you go.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
And then you're gonna be like, I can go get it tomorrow.
And they'll be like, okay, well, please do.
ian crossland
Like not having a phone.
Like if you can't coordinate with your boss.
tim pool
Yeah, exactly.
What's your number?
I don't have a cell phone.
Well, how am I supposed to get in touch with you?
You can't.
Okay, I'm gonna hire somebody else.
That's what's gonna happen.
People don't realize it.
It's gonna overnight be ubiquitous.
phil labonte
There are people that won't, there are people that have to have the right kind of phone to work with.
There are people that you have to have an Apple to work with just because of iMessage.
tim pool
Ugh, it's the worst.
Let's go to Super Chats if you haven't already.
Smash that like button.
Subscribe to this channel.
Because I want all of you to know that even when I am dying from food poisoning, I will be here to do the show.
Because I'm a workaholic and have anxiety if I don't.
And I'm sitting there in bed, like, covered in sweat, feverish, and just like, but then there'd be no show today.
ian crossland
For Jenny.
tim pool
For what I'm supposed to do.
ian crossland
For you!
tim pool
I was like, Jenny's coming.
unidentified
I feel so bad, oh my god.
But if you support what we do, man.
tim pool
Well, yeah, I mean, whoever was here, I'm like... Yeah, I was thinking it's like... It's more so the people watching, you know?
Just 30,000 people.
ian crossland
Because for me, it was like, oh, it's just another night.
But like for the guests, it's kind of a big deal to go be on a podcast that you've never been on before.
unidentified
I know, I'm honored.
I'm honored.
tim pool
Well, let's read some of these super chats.
You guys want to read some?
We got the monitor.
You can read it as I suffer here.
ian crossland
Yeah, if you want to snag it.
phil labonte
Let me see where... I don't see any of this.
Where are they?
unidentified
Here we go.
phil labonte
Seamus, I give you one... Seamus!
Seamus!
Potatoes for Seamus.
Seamus, I give you one potato.
Happy Irish Awareness Day, Mr. Coughlin.
More potatoes for you if my guy Tim reads this for you.
tim pool
He called him Seamus Coughlin.
phil labonte
My bad.
tim pool
Seamus is steaming right now.
phil labonte
I'm sorry, Seamus.
tim pool
Seamus Coughlin.
Coughlin.
ian crossland
I'm gonna pull one up.
I don't have access to that.
I can't read that.
tim pool
Where is Seamus at?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
ian crossland
Let's see if I can find...
tim pool
Mind of a madman, said Chimsham Shamus.
ian crossland
This is funny.
Robert Bradbury said the Republican Party is now a two-headed Hydra with DeSantis and Trump.
They can't figure out which head to cut off.
unidentified
Yeah, well, if they do, Tim Warr will come back.
tim pool
Christina H. says potato lies matter.
William Walker says, Tim, you need garlic for your food poisoning.
Studies have shown it to be at least as beneficial as penicillin for food poisoning.
Say what?
I love garlic.
Maybe I'll, I just can't eat.
I just, I'll barf.
I was able to eat some yogurt.
Really helped.
Yeah.
Still carries yogurt.
ian crossland
Probiotics.
tim pool
Went right to the fridge.
I saw the C on it and I was like, it's mine now.
ian crossland
Garlic is a hundred times stronger than antibiotics when it comes to killing bacteria that cause food poisoning, according to Washington State University.
tim pool
I should just put garlic on everything, man!
ian crossland
I wonder if it's raw or not.
tim pool
I mean, garlic's awesome.
I will swallow two cloves of garlic right now like pills.
ian crossland
It's the diallyl sulfide, apparently.
unidentified
Wow.
ian crossland
Does a lot better than prescriptions, typically.
But this is according to one research.
tim pool
I've got so much garlic at home because I just chug garlic.
Maybe I'll just take a spoonful with the medicine, you know?
ian crossland
Oh, this says eating garlic after contracting it probably won't do much good.
But if you're stocked up on the diallyl sulfide, that maybe it'll protect you.
So I don't know, maybe it's more of a preventative.
tim pool
I'm feeling mostly better.
Like I was barfing.
And like the past few hours, I just feel like tired and cold, you know?
So I've been drinking coconut water coming back.
unidentified
Vitamin C. Yeah, just a lot of vitamins.
phil labonte
You need to make sure that you keep drinking water too.
tim pool
I think coconut water is better.
phil labonte
Well, something for fluids.
ian crossland
Oh yeah, I'm drinking that too right now.
It's so good.
phil labonte
I'm not particular to what kind of fluids you take.
ian crossland
Coffee, coconut water.
What a combo.
A little peanut butter powder.
Oh my god.
It's the sweetness.
tim pool
Peanut butter powder in coffee is good.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Jack Posobiec turned me on to it.
ian crossland
Hell yeah.
phil labonte
It's like PB... That powder stuff.
ian crossland
I'll show you.
I have some downstairs.
It's fantastic.
tim pool
It adds a creaminess to it.
It's good.
Yeah, and I like peanuts, so...
ian crossland
Let's grab another Super Chat.
tim pool
I don't think that's true.
I don't believe that's true.
It said, despite all the negative press, Kefifi.
for endurance in spite of all the negative press we will endure, I don't think that's
ian crossland
true.
unidentified
I don't believe that's true.
tim pool
It said, despite all the negative press, Khafifi.
And I think what they were trying to write was press coverage.
Like if you believe that.
I thought he I thought he start my coffee look at it. No I Despite the negative press coffee fee and that's all it
said something like that and like it's clear They were trying to write press coverage and then someone
sausage fingered the phone and press sound I went whoops Is it what did it say? Did you find it?
ian crossland
Six minute. Yeah, six minutes after midnight on May 31st 2017 Trump tweeted despite the constant negative press
unidentified
coffee fee Coverage that
tim pool
And so people were saying that covfefe meant, I will stand.
And so he was saying, despite the negative press, I will stand.
And it's like, dude, no, that's not what it was.
phil labonte
I love that.
tim pool
Sorry.
ian crossland
I'm really excited for the normal Trump campaign stuff.
I'm really not excited for the weird stuff that's going to happen.
tim pool
And it became the biggest story.
I love it, man.
I'm really excited for the normal Trump campaign stuff.
I'm really not excited for the weird stuff that's gonna happen.
You know, deepfakes and fighting.
phil labonte
I'm extremely interested to find out what kind of impact deepfakes have
if there's going to be stuff that actually moves the needle, like where people get fooled into something
and it actually has an impact on polling and stuff like that.
I'm extremely interested to see that.
ian crossland
Yeah, that Mark Twain quote that it's easier to fool people than to convince them that they've been fooled.
tim pool
All right, Joe Biden says Discord has devolved into nothing but dad jokes.
Start over.
Well, maybe you gotta go to the Elite Club.
unidentified
Hey.
tim pool
The Elite VIP Golden Club or whatever it's called.
I'll be in there shortly, too.
We just got it set up last night and I haven't had time because I woke up dying.
And I was like, we'll have it set up by tonight.
unidentified
And then I woke up dying and I was like...
tim pool
Yeah.
And we still did the Culture War podcast with Sovereign Bra and Mary Morgan.
It was really fun.
And I was drinking coffee.
And then as soon as we wrapped, I like, was gonna faint.
I was dizzy.
I was like, oh man, this is bad.
And I went to sleep.
Just went to sleep.
Woke up at like 6.
Probably should go to bed after this.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
Ruined my weekend!
You know, I went to Outback Steakhouse last night, and now I'm sick.
What's going on, Outback?
That was the only place I ate at.
phil labonte
You didn't go after the show, even before the- The show, the movie theater was shut down.
ian crossland
Oh, why?
tim pool
We went to go see Shazam, and the power was out in the theater, so they evacuated everybody.
And then I was like, let's go eat, and we were looking at the map, and it's like, oh, there's an Outback over here, and we're like, alright, Outback is good.
And I gotta admit, it was delicious, but if I could take it back, I would.
Because it sucks.
But the food was This is really good.
I had chicken tenders and three, three cheese steak dip, bloom and onion.
And you know what the crazy thing is?
I was, I had this like feeling in my mind.
I'm like, I'm going to get sick from eating this.
ian crossland
Oh, you knew?
tim pool
I just had, but it was like a gut feeling.
ian crossland
Literally.
tim pool
Dad joke, you know?
ian crossland
Wow.
tim pool
But I was like, ah, it'll be fine.
Like what'll probably happen is I'll feel sick at night, go to sleep, wake up fine.
And then I woke up like head throbbing, took full on food poisoning.
ian crossland
Nuts.
We got Surge.com in the chat.
tim pool
What's he doing?
ian crossland
Posting a bunch of pictures of me!
tim pool
All right, what do we got?
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
says, OMG, my favorite graphene semantic loving authoritarian pirate has his own emoji.
Thank you, lord, never fight an alligator underwater.
ian crossland
Oh, okay, thank you.
I thought he was talking about Phil for a second.
tim pool
All right, what do we got?
Mads Axton says, service guarantees citizenship.
Civilians live peacefully but have limited rights.
Citizens get to vote and hold political positions.
Agreed.
Agreed!
ian crossland
This is a tough conundrum, because they really did—landowners were the voters because they were the only ones that had, like, skin in the game, like Phil said earlier.
tim pool
And it was the only way to identify someone as actually being a part of the community.
ian crossland
Yeah, and you know they care about their community because they're rooted, and that's very important when you're deciding how the community functions.
If you're just passing through and you get a chance to change things, that's kind of crazy.
tim pool
But the issue with service-guaranteed citizenship is what if leftists get control of the service, you know?
What if they start purging their ideological enemies and then you say something like, I would like to serve and they'll go, well, looks here like, I'm sorry, you're disqualified for this reason.
And everyone says, no, in Starship Troopers, anyone was allowed.
I'm like, I'm saying they'll make up excuses to excise you so that they only have their crackpot communists with the ability to vote.
phil labonte
To be fair, that is, that is the goal in my, it seems that is the goal of the left generally.
Yeah.
tim pool
All right.
Leave Me Alone says, a button gives you $1,000,000 per press, but a random person dies.
Would you press it?
Which politician do you think have effectively pressed it?
Trump, Biden.
I would not press it.
ian crossland
Yeah, I'm not into that right now.
tim pool
Bill Gates probably press it a lot.
He is in there being like, this is working, my bank account's going up.
It's also solving other problems for me.
ian crossland
I gotta hear one from floating.
tim pool
I don't think anybody in this room would press the button, because we have healthy and fulfilling lives, you know what I mean?
A million dollars isn't going to... I'll put it this way.
A million dollars may make the average person's life substantially better, all their costs are covered, but ripping your soul in half is something you can never come back from.
I don't think people would do it.
I think a lot of liberal types would do it.
They'd be like, I don't care.
It's one person, who cares?
ian crossland
If it's a random person, it might end up being you or your friend or something.
tim pool
Yeah, and they'll be like, right, that's the Twilight Zone.
You press the button and then your brother goes, ah, and dies.
You go, no!
I think that's actually a Twilight Zone.
Or no, no.
Yeah, the monkey's paw thing.
Where the dude's like, I wish I had a million dollars.
And they get a phone call, the monkey's finger goes down, they get a phone call, it's like, your father died.
He's left you everything.
He's like, no!
You know, it wasn't worth it.
ian crossland
Yep.
tim pool
Got you the million dollars though, man.
ian crossland
I got here one from Fleeting Floating Feathers.
Tim, you need to watch Obama's address to the UK Parliament from 2011 where he says China will be the ruling power of the world and that the USA will decline and have to get used to them being so.
unidentified
Wow!
ian crossland
That's the first I've heard of that.
tim pool
Well, start buying your wand now.
Invest early.
ian crossland
Start buying Chinese farmland?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Start buying Chinese farmland.
ian crossland
Oh, yeah.
But Trump said, I do got to say that I am very disappointed about the fake news headline.
I thought that Chimcast was going to be real again.
But you give me my favorite legume instead.
Is sweet potato a legume?
tim pool
I don't think so.
ian crossland
Seamus, we'll be back.
tim pool
It's a what you call it?
unidentified
It's like a starchy vegetable.
tim pool
Yeah, I forgot.
What's the word?
I can't.
I'm too sick for this, man.
ian crossland
What are legumes anyway?
Are they beans?
phil labonte
Yeah, they're like beans.
ian crossland
Any plant from a... What's the word?
unidentified
A tuber.
ian crossland
A tuber!
tim pool
A tuber.
ian crossland
Yes.
Root vegetable.
tim pool
And leaves, stems, and pods are the... It's actually, I think, the funniest thing that's a sweet potato, too, because we couldn't even respect Seamus enough to get a regular potato.
That's all we got.
We were actually looking for a puppet leprechaun.
We couldn't find one.
phil labonte
So we ended up with a yay.
unidentified
It was all Easter decorations.
It's not Easter.
ian crossland
It's St.
tim pool
Paddy's Day.
What's going on?
There's got to be a leprechaun somewhere.
But if we got one, I was going to do an Irish Seamus thing like, I did, I did, I did.
Thanks for having me on the show, everybody.
ian crossland
Like a puppet.
tim pool
Yeah, like with a puppet.
But, you know, we got a potato instead, so.
ian crossland
Oh, Yuki Usui asks, if I want to write for Timcast free, what do I do?
tim pool
I don't think we can legally take free writers.
Like, yeah, I don't think we can.
There's liability issues and stuff.
I think the insurance would be like, you lose your insurance or something.
ian crossland
A lot of the Super Chats I've got access to are the recent ones.
If there's any older ones that you see.
Crack one out of the park.
tim pool
Whoa!
Amos Moses says y'all should check out Brandon Herrera's video on the .50 BMG pistol.
Oh man!
I gotta look at that!
phil labonte
Brandon's great.
You should get Lucas Botkin from T-Rex Arms to come on.
He just was on Tucker Carlson's, Tucker Carlson Today, the show, the daytime show.
And he's only from, he's from Tennessee.
tim pool
Oh my god.
50 BMG pistol from two days ago.
ian crossland
Is that the AK-50?
phil labonte
No, that's older.
No, I don't think he's actually achieved the AK-50 yet.
I think that's still a meme.
AK-50?
I think it's still a meme.
Because, you know, Brandon's the AK guy.
tim pool
AK-50.
phil labonte
So if anyone out there knows if he's achieved the AK-50... How do you shoot a 50 BMG pistol?
tim pool
I'm watching the video right now.
It's a breechloader it looks like.
phil labonte
I'm sure it's miserable to shoot.
I shot a breechloading 5.56 and it sucks to shoot.
tim pool
Like it's got no, it's a, it's a pistol.
How's he going to, how's he going to do this?
phil labonte
This is amazing.
ian crossland
What is it about the breech load that makes it harder to shoot?
phil labonte
So the breech load is just, it's just a barrel.
You put the bullet in and then close it.
So there's no, nothing reciprocates.
You get all the recoil right into your arm.
tim pool
So with, uh, so like my Barrett, it's semi-automatic.
A portion of the energy pulls the, it pulls the mechanism, the hammer back or whatever.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
I'm not a gun guy.
Uh, to reload the next round.
So it's a spring loaded thing that absorbs a ton of the energy and then pushes the next round.
phil labonte
Oh, that's awesome.
There's a spring.
tim pool
That's how, that's how rifles work.
phil labonte
There's a spring in what they call the buffer tube.
There's a spring and there's what they call a buffer.
It's basically a small weight inside the tube.
When the gun goes off, the bolt carrier group slides back, pulling the ground from the spent cartridge from the chamber.
tim pool
What pulls it back is the gas from the explosion of the round.
phil labonte
Wow!
tim pool
So as the bullet's leaving, there's high intensity, there's pressure, and there's a tube that the pressure pushes it, shoving it back.
ian crossland
That's extropy!
This is why humans are so brilliant, is using waste energy to propel.
tim pool
And then here's the best part.
If you have a, what's it called, like a muzzle brake?
It has slanted, like, vents on the front.
So when it fires, the gas coming out pushes the gun forward, also reducing recoil.
phil labonte
And you can get a bunch of different things, you can get a bunch of different things on your, for your, what they call the muzzle device, is what he's talking about.
You can get a muzzle brake, which vents the gas straight out.
That's, so that way your muzzle stays flat.
You can get what they call a birdcage, which is designed to keep the blam, the fiery blast to a minimum.
A muzzle brake, it looks like a dragon shooting fire everywhere.
tim pool
With a birdcage, it keeps- It like redirects the energy.
So that normally when you fire a rifle, the energy is going forward and backwards.
With the muzzle brake, the energy going out then goes to the side, so it removes some of the energy coming- the recoil coming back at you.
ian crossland
Do the bullets hit harder with a muzzle brake?
phil labonte
No, the- the bullets will hit harder with a longer barrel.
tim pool
Oof.
Yeah, more pressure.
ian crossland
It's because they're spinning more accurately.
phil labonte
No, because you're- you have the- the bullet going down the barrel, there's resistance because the bear- the bullet is actually just a little tiny- There's a- there's a diminishing return on the length of the barrel.
Yeah, so the long, but the, well, it is, but with like a five, five, six, you want to have a round, it was designed for a 20 inch barrel.
Um, so the gas is burning the entire time that the bear, that the round is going down the barrel, the gas still burning.
So the shorter the barrel, the less time that get the, the, the powder has to burn.
ian crossland
And the heat propulsions lost to the air.
phil labonte
It's not so much the heat it's, it's pressure that you're worried about.
tim pool
So when we fired, I think it was called like an RN-52 or something, breech-loading .50 BMG, I was the only one who didn't do it because everybody was getting knocked back.
And I'm like, I'm just not, like, I'm not here for that, you know.
But when we got the Barrett, I fired the Barrett because the semi-automatic, the spring system, it was nothing.
Like, firing a .50 BMG Barrett semi-auto felt nothing.
Like, I feel like a 12-gauge hurts more.
Yeah, 12-gauge pump action is a lot of recoil.
Right into your shoulder.
We have shoulder pads for the shotgun.
Yeah, with the .50 BMG, we just fire it.
phil labonte
Big spring.
It's a big spring in that gun.
unidentified
I feel like I need that.
As a tiny woman, I fall backwards.
tim pool
Well, it's for hunting helicopters.
unidentified
Yeah, perfect for the border.
ian crossland
I want to ask you about your weapon collection.
I don't like outing people because it's like, I want everyone to think that everyone's armed.
I don't want everyone to be like, no, I don't have any weapons.
But do you want to talk about that?
unidentified
I mean, I live in DC, so yes, I have pepper spray.
tim pool
Oh, I don't even know that's legal.
unidentified
It's not.
tim pool
Oh, jeez.
Let's, uh, let's read.
ian crossland
You can leave it on the sidewalk.
phil labonte
We should not talk about that.
tim pool
It's crazy that it's not legal.
unidentified
Let's read this.
tim pool
We're gonna read some more superchats.
We got this from, uh, MassGenocide says, Yo, Cullen, where is the onboarding channel in Discord?
unidentified
Um, the onboarding channel, so you're gonna get that once you interact with Beanie Bot.
Now, I got a text from the tech ops that the Discord thinks Beanie Bot is spam, which probably someone reported it.
Probably a troll reported it.
tim pool
That's why we had to do gating.
unidentified
Yep.
Now, I know the tech team's working on clarifying the instructions for anyone that's having trouble in Discord.
So just, you know, please be patient.
We have like two people working on it and they're working all day.
So there's a lot of different things, but it should be there.
It should be there.
And it depends on your membership tier, right?
So that's how you're going to determine what you see in the server.
tim pool
All right, Defender X says, when you mentioned the time loop, I thought of that Futurama episode.
Plus, Tim, you missed an opportunity to wear a green beanie.
Come on, man.
A green bean.
A green beanie.
I don't have one.
phil labonte
I came with a green shirt.
It's a subtle green shirt.
unidentified
I have green pants on.
tim pool
I got nothing green.
ian crossland
I'm gonna wear my green jacket.
I wasn't even thinking.
phil labonte
Tim was looking a little green in the face when we showed up.
tim pool
Yeah, that's true.
I was personally green, so I didn't think I needed... Is everybody wearing some kind of green?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Ian's not wearing green.
ian crossland
They're green pants, but they're like olive green.
No, they're not.
tim pool
Those are not green.
phil labonte
Barely green.
ian crossland
What color would you call them?
tim pool
They actually do look green on camera.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
They do.
unidentified
But you're not supposed to wear red.
tim pool
Oh, that's racist.
unidentified
Yeah, I don't know where it comes from, but that's what I was told.
tim pool
We got to do a Cass Castle bit now where Seamus shows up at the house and is violently angry over this bit.
phil labonte
Probably will.
tim pool
And then he, like, gets revenge on everybody.
ian crossland
First Joe Biden and now you?
unidentified
I thought you were my friends!
Ah!
tim pool
Seamus, no, please.
It was a joke.
Racism's no joke, Tim.
ian crossland
Let's get this fun fact from NotTimBurton.
It says, fun fact, sweet potatoes are in the morning glory family.
unidentified
Really?
ian crossland
While potatoes are in the nightshade family with tomatoes, peppers, and eggplant.
Nightshades.
I hear that nightshades can mute your pineal gland or some crap, like make people—like nightshades are toxic in large doses.
phil labonte
Yeah, nightshades can kill you.
Tomatoes.
ian crossland
They're like mind-control substances, I've heard, in quotes.
tim pool
Eggplant or nightshades, right?
unidentified
Maybe.
ian crossland
Tomatoes.
So they say, like, ketchup is a big part.
Potatoes and ketchup, which is French fries and ketchup.
It's a big, like, sedative.
tim pool
Like attack of the killer tomatoes.
Remember that?
ian crossland
The Nightshade.
phil labonte
Wasn't that a movie or something?
ian crossland
The Mandrake.
You ever see a Mandrake root?
tim pool
Oh yeah, the one from Harry Potter that screams, and if you hear it scream, you die.
ian crossland
That's wild.
Apparently they're poisonous, and they look like men.
It's crazy.
tim pool
There was that dude who went into the wild, and they made that movie about it called Into the Wild, and then he ate the wrong seeds and got real sick and then died.
phil labonte
Yeah.
That was a different dude than the I'm Friends with Bears guy that got Oh yeah, his wife got eaten and he's on video screaming.
tim pool
Oh, they're eating us.
Like, well, yeah, what's that called?
ian crossland
What's that movie called?
It's Werner Herzog did the movie on the bear guy.
What's that?
tim pool
He got eaten.
ian crossland
Yeah.
And his girlfriend, they both got devoured and you can hear it.
Yeah.
phil labonte
It's like, fight him off.
ian crossland
So what a horrible yeah, he goes to the guy's what mom or something.
He's like don't I don't ever listen to this audio.
She goes.
I won't burner.
I won't it's home.
So grizzly man, that's the name of that documentary.
I still haven't seen it.
Here's a Super Chat from Omega731.
Tim, sorry for the belated birthday gift.
Could not Super Chat in member mode, but here's enough for HBO Max for a month to enjoy the series Babylon 5.
Since you enjoy SG-1 and Star Trek, I feel you also enjoy this series.
tim pool
Dude, Battlestar Galactica is lit.
ian crossland
What season are you on?
tim pool
Battlestar Galactica?
Are you serious?
I watched that 10 years ago.
phil labonte
Oh.
Was that 10 years ago they redid that?
tim pool
It was longer than 10 years ago.
ian crossland
Omega's talking about Babylon 5.
Have you seen that?
tim pool
No.
I've seen only passively some episodes.
I need to watch it.
But Battlestar Galactica is so brilliant.
The philosophy, survival, you know, basically it's about humans create AI.
The AI wipes out humanity.
And they have these interplanetary colonies and all that's left is like one small fleet of humans because everything's been destroyed.
And the AI is tracking them down trying to kill them.
And so that's like, and then there's politics.
Like there's a coal mining ship that recycles raw materials for fuel and everyone who works there is a slave.
So like, because they have to, if you stop working, we all die.
unidentified
Is this like the future with the earth link, whatever?
tim pool
No, I don't think they have that.
But like the officers live in luxury and because they have to, they're in charge.
And then the poor people in the mining ship are like, I can't work 18 hours a day every day.
I'd rather die.
And they're like, you can't.
Yeah, you have to keep working and they make kids do it.
And they start doing, they finally have like a revolt and there's like a rotation now where everyone has to do it.
Otherwise they die.
unidentified
Dude, that's a good show.
tim pool
Child labor is terrifying.
Well, I don't want to spoil the ending even though it is like a 13-year-old show.
ian crossland
Yeah, and it's based off a show from the 70s.
Did you ever see the original?
tim pool
Yeah, I've seen some of the original.
Stargate SG-1, I'm pretty sure at Joe Rogan's new comedy club, the stage is a Stargate.
Have you seen it?
phil labonte
Is it really?
tim pool
Yeah, pretty sure the stage is a Stargate.
ian crossland
Comedy Mothership?
tim pool
Yeah, look up the picture from Lex Fridman on Instagram, and it's basically pretty sure this stage is a Stargate.
unidentified
Whoa.
ian crossland
I wanna go.
It just feels good watching them.
tim pool
I mean, maybe we can do an event there.
I know we're not comedians, but maybe he would, like, Joe would let us.
ian crossland
Oh, that'd be great.
tim pool
Yeah, we're going to be in Austin on the 14th, so I'm definitely going to check it out.
phil labonte
If you want, we can get the AK guy to bring us to see if we'll shoot his AK-50.
He doesn't have it done, but he's got parts for it.
tim pool
I wanted to get a 9mm Makarov rifle.
Uh, and it needs to be custom built, and like, people have offered to make it.
So for those that don't understand, uh, don't know, Makarov 9mm rounds are Soviet.
They're slightly shorter, I believe, than, uh, Luger.
So they don't work in regular handguns.
So I have a whole bunch of Soviet ammo.
I would love to get, you know, some carbine for it.
ian crossland
Dude, I'm looking at this image from Lex Friedman about, uh, the Stargate.
Rogan's stage is a Stargate.
It's lit up, but it's only half a Stargate.
The other half's underground.
tim pool
Well, I think he had to make it distinct from a Stargate.
ian crossland
I see.
tim pool
So it's like you can kind of be like, that's a Stargate, isn't it?
But he could always be like, no, it's not a Stargate.
It's a UFO or something.
ian crossland
It's definitely half of a portal.
tim pool
It's a Stargate.
ian crossland
I want to see the other half.
tim pool
Yeah, because, you know, Joe watches good shows or whatever.
ian crossland
What do you got, Phil?
You got a super chat?
phil labonte
Let's see.
I don't know.
Well, it keeps moving.
unidentified
Let's see.
phil labonte
Hell, my name is Damian and I was born at 70666 minutes after 6pm.
I'm not the antichrist, I'm just some a-hole from a village.
Dad loved cool names and nose candy, saw the omen, so here I am.
unidentified
I'm so glad that I selected that superchat to read.
phil labonte
Nothing like a superchat referencing booger sugar.
tim pool
Booker Sugar.
ian crossland
Here's one from S.A.
Federale with a little bit of clarification.
Wearing red, he says, is British.
So that's a one, Ian.
Also, don't order black and tans.
That's the Royal Ulster Constabulary nickname.
tim pool
What are you supposed to order, an Irish Car Bomb?
ian crossland
Those are actually really good, man.
I used to drink it.
It's Guinness with, uh, Baileys?
A shot of Baileys that you drop in?
tim pool
No, no, it's whiskey or something.
phil labonte
That's an Irish Car Bomb.
Baileys?
The Guinness with the Jameson?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
That's what I thought, Jameson.
And then you gotta drink it really fast.
ian crossland
Kahlua?
Is that what it is?
phil labonte
No, no.
It's Bailey's and Jameson in the shot.
tim pool
And then you drop the shot into the glass.
ian crossland
Yeah, you gotta drink it fast.
It starts to curdle.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
Super good.
tim pool
Dude, Guinness is awesome.
I don't really drink all that much, but Guinness is on its own level.
ian crossland
It's the best beer.
phil labonte
There's not a lot of booze that I miss.
I miss car bombs.
Those are good.
ian crossland
They were so good.
tim pool
Is that racist?
phil labonte
I don't, I don't think so.
ian crossland
Horrific name.
phil labonte
I know.
Irish car bomb.
We've been dissing the Irish all night long, so I don't think there's any reason to stop.
tim pool
Dude, there was a period where Gen Xers and Boomers were pretty based.
Making all these offensive jokes and stuff.
phil labonte
I think the Gen Xers and Boomers basically are probably pretty based.
They just don't want to listen to the Millennials and stuff cry.
It's just constant stream of whining.
tim pool
I'm telling you, we gotta offer up as a government program a communist utopia.
It'll be cheaper in the long run.
It'll save your country.
Say, we're gonna fund it.
I am willing to pay a premium tax to create an island where all the communists can opt to go, and when they do opt in, it's like a five-year commitment, and they can live under their perfect socialist order, and then we don't have to worry about it.
ian crossland
I would like Gen X to be louder, if that's what it takes.
I don't know.
tim pool
Yeah, I mean, they were the Pepsi generation, right?
phil labonte
That's kind of not our deal, though.
ian crossland
My dad was like, hey, Ian, I want to start a show.
And I was like, after he made, like, some joke, like, off-color joke, I was like, yeah, probably not.
But then after I said that, I was like, no, I want him to make a show.
That was terrible that I was afraid for my father to be canceled.
Like, what?
It's better he makes a show than doesn't.
tim pool
It'd be funny if he was like, Ian, I want to do a show.
Like, what about, well, I just plain don't like Irish people.
ian crossland
By the way, if you want to follow my dad on YouTube, it is Cosmoinkus.
C-O-S-M-O-I-N-K-U-S.
He's got some videos from about 12 years ago playing guitar.
tim pool
The progenitor of Ian.
Yeah.
I wonder what that must look like.
ian crossland
They called him Cosmo when he worked for the fire department.
I didn't think much of it as a kid, but he's out there.
tim pool
That explains a lot.
ian crossland
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was way before I smoked weed.
tim pool
You guys want to read some more Super Jits?
ian crossland
I do.
I do.
tim pool
Here we go.
You want to read that one, Phil?
phil labonte
Roll them proper.
Bill Gates owns patent 060606, and its purpose lines up with the Bible's prediction.
unidentified
Oh no.
tim pool
Yeah, it's a patent for tracking body functions to grant you access to a cryptocurrency.
And its number is 666.
Like, come on, man.
When he got that patent, if he really, if it was really an accident, he'd be like, what the?
He's like, I don't, I changed this.
Are you crazy?
People are gonna come after me.
No, he was like, this is cool.
phil labonte
No, this is cool.
ian crossland
I want to read this super chat because it's a it's a relatively large one It's from get a pair with Sully.
I don't really understand it, but I'm gonna read it It says we lost in committee against the Minnesota Dems anti third-party bill We convinced enough Dems to vote no so the Dem chairman decided to lay the bill over into omnibus spending bill Wow No more debate no chance for veto now.
tim pool
It's time to work twice as hard The system just doesn't exist anymore Democrats are just like, we can do whatever we want.
No one will do anything about it.
Biden, you had Cuomo during the lockdown.
Supreme Court says you can't shut down churches.
He goes, okay, I'll just make a new order.
Sue me over that one.
And then what has to happen is you got to sue him over the new order.
Then when the court strikes it down, he'll then shut down again with a new order.
And he'll be like, yeah, this order got, you know, countered, but what about this one?
They just do whatever they want.
There's no repercussions.
I think, you know.
ian crossland
Gosh, that's wild.
tim pool
It's all come and crashing, huh?
phil labonte
We should really get Lucas Botkin on because we could talk about, he's got a lot of insight into like civilian firearms ownership and communications and Extracurricular activities with firearms and stuff.
tim pool
You know what I want to do?
I want to get a Christian prophecy scholar for the culture war at some point.
ian crossland
Badass.
I wonder if a Prager, Dennis Prager would do it.
tim pool
Three of us will just talk about it.
ian crossland
That'd be awesome.
tim pool
Well, not Prager.
I mean, I'm talking about some dude who's like that guy from Angels and Demons or the Da Vinci Code, you know, like a Tom Hanks type guy who's like, I have tracked the Knights Templar.
I know all the revelations and like Donald Trump.
And I'll be like, whoa.
It's important because even if there isn't an Antichrist, it's important that people don't freak out.
That's the most important thing whether it's real or not.
Donald Trump that Twitter account is Donnie darkened. It's important because
ian crossland
even if there isn't an Antichrist it's important that people don't freak out.
That's the most important thing whether it's real or not stay calm. I'll tell you
phil labonte
what I'm for if it I don't I don't tend to believe in the Antichrist.
If the Antichrist turns out to be real, that will be at least slightly on the freaky side.
ian crossland
The upside is apparently the return of Christ overrides the Antichrist and brings peace to the world.
tim pool
Well, if you believe in Christ.
If you, you know, repent or whatever.
All right everybody if you haven't already would you kindly smash that like button so I can go to bed and I have Luke got me out of those beds that heat up so I'm gonna blast the heat cuz I got a fever and just like watch scary movies and then probably have no weekend because I ate garbage food from a garbage place so but smash the like button become a member at timcast.com the discord server is up there are some issues but working through it it literally just went live And you can hang out and chat 24-7 in the Discord server.
We do have rules because the purpose of the server is not a free-for-all open space of saying whatever you want.
It's literally to track current events, have discussion about the ideas, and share ideas in an academic way.
Simply put, that's what we try to do on the show as it is.
We try not to be, like, I don't know, too just aggressive or nasty.
We want to make sure that our ideas are actually backed by sound arguments.
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So that means we got to watch out for people who are intentionally going in to try and sabotage it because we want to create a community.
So anyway, become a member and smash the like button, all that stuff.
Jenny, do you want to shout anything out?
unidentified
Sure.
Thank you for having me, first of all.
And you can follow me on Twitter at Jenny S. Tare.
tim pool
Right on.
ian crossland
How are you, Phil?
phil labonte
I am Phil Labonte, the lead singer of All That Remains.
You can follow me on Twitter at PhilThatRemains.
On Instagram, I am PhilThatRemainsOfficial.
ian crossland
Thanks for your expertise on the border.
That was awesome.
Good to see you.
I'm Ian Crossland.
Follow me anywhere at Ian Crossland.
Also, check out Pop Culture Crisis.
I was on today with Dane Font, Mary Morgan, and Brett Dasovic.
It was fantastic.
Here's to many more.
tim pool
And real quick, check out Mary Morgan on the Whatever podcast, because she was, like, roasting these thoughts.
phil labonte
She's what the kids call based.
tim pool
Yeah, that was funny.
Anyway, Kellen.
unidentified
Kellen PDL.
Ian, I second that.
I think Phil, myself, you are all recurring guests on Pop Culture from time to time, so we have fun there.
And Seamus.
tim pool
That's a really good point, man.
You know, I've never actually considered that.
ian crossland
Yeah, but the accent insults me.
tim pool
That's fair, too.
You know what?
Let's get him out of here.
unidentified
He's done.
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