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March 12, 2023 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Welcome, everybody, to the special My Birthday After Show. | |
| Ian came up to join us. | ||
| Hi, everyone. | ||
| He looks like he just woke up. | ||
| I have been practicing. | ||
| I've actually been very tired. | ||
| I was up really late last night. | ||
| You look like it. | ||
| Yeah, thanks. | ||
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What's really late? | |
| 6 a.m.? | ||
| 7 a.m.? | ||
| Yeah, 7 a.m. | ||
| And then you went to bed and you woke up? | ||
| I slept for like two hours today, probably. | ||
| But anyway, I want to rock and roll. | ||
| You guys were talking about doing a festival. | ||
| We'll do the song later, so for everybody who wants to hear the conversation. | ||
| Do you want to chill and talk, too? | ||
| Let's do that. | ||
| I'll play a song, too. | ||
| So we have this story from Timcast.com. | ||
| Seth Rogen cites lack of children for his success. | ||
| Me and my wife seem to get a lot more active enjoyment out of not having kids than anyone I know seems to get out of having kids. | ||
| And I just want to cope and seethe. | ||
| Is that the appropriate response? | ||
| Cope and seethe? | ||
| You know, what's interesting to me is that You hear a lot of celebrities now, and it's become this sort of like popular thing to say, oh, we're glad we didn't have kids. | ||
| We're successful because we didn't have kids. | ||
| I'm six. | ||
| Who is somebody? | ||
| Who was it? | ||
| You probably remember. | ||
| She said, I got my Oscar because I had an abortion. | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| Who was that? | ||
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I forget who that was. | |
| Was it Ashley Judd or something like that? | ||
| It wasn't Ashley Judd. | ||
| No, okay. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I know she's a prominent antinatalist. | ||
| Yeah, she certainly was. | ||
| Michelle Williams? | ||
| Michelle Williams. | ||
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Seth Rogen was going hard on it today. | |
| And yet you never hear the reverse. | ||
| You never hear someone say, oh, I wish I didn't have children. | ||
| I wish that I didn't have these kids. | ||
| These kids are the worst. | ||
| Why did I even do this? | ||
| Yeah, I don't, I certainly don't feel that way. | ||
| I saw one. | ||
| It was a friend, a girl that used to be a friend, but she was like on Adderall and had a Ukraine. | ||
| I don't know if the Ukraine flag in the bio means anything, but it was probably the Adderall, like being distanced from emotions. | ||
| She's like, my kid is this and that. | ||
| It's like, dude, I mean, look. | ||
| Don't get me wrong, people vent, right? | ||
| People are gonna vent here and there, but to put out a statement about that, where it's like, I'm glad I never had children, or on the flip side, I wish I had never had children, it just doesn't happen. | ||
| I feel like it's so much more a political statement than a statement about reality. | ||
| 100%, 100%. | ||
| It's more like tribal signaling than actually a reflection of their experience in life. | ||
| It's totally become that. | ||
| They say, oh, you know, I don't have children and that's why I have all of these things and that's why I'm successful and it's like, there are... | ||
| An infinite amount of people that have children and that have done amazing things. | ||
| So to think that you can't do, you can't have a successful life because of your children is completely ridiculous and totally detached from reality. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, it barely even, it barely even warrants a reply. | ||
| I mean, it's just that stupid. | ||
| When I was thinking my hesitance to have kids in the early days was I wanted to be able to fly them around the world with me. | ||
| Cause I didn't want to be the dad on the road. | ||
| That happens to me every day, man. | ||
| I think about that all the time. | ||
| And that's why I've tried for the longest time. | ||
| We're even talking about something for the summer, some plans that I take them with me as much as I can. | ||
| And I will do so as long as I can until they're in school. | ||
| And even at that point, you know, we'll see what we can do. | ||
| Well, I take my, if it's summer, I take my son on all kinds of whatever stuff I have to do. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, and then like, I plan like vacations around whatever the things are that I have to do. | ||
| Like we went to Israel this, this fall. | ||
| It was amazing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We're planning a West coast trip to see, um, I have two brothers. | ||
| One of my brothers moved out to San Francisco. | ||
| We're planning a West coast trip to go see her brother and you were, you were alluding to family and. | ||
| Look, I guess I was thinking as long as you're not like not seeing them 30 days and then seeing them one or two days. | ||
| You were thinking the good times outweigh the amount of time you got to be away from that when you actually are there with your kids. | ||
| It's so much better than being there with no kids. | ||
| You were thinking more of like if you were like on tour as a musician, right? | ||
| Yeah, or having to fly to Sweden to talk to for some two day thing. | ||
| Yeah, for sure on traveling like that. It is hard when you have my kid with me | ||
| Yeah when you have to leave for like so | ||
| For my experience like that it is a really tough thing to be like I have to leave for you know, six weeks | ||
| You know if we go on tour like we go we're not going for a weekend | ||
| Especially if you're starting out if you're because we're talking about young people having kids when they're young | ||
| If you're looking to start as a touring artist and you're going to be on tour for a month, six weeks, 10 weeks or whatever, it is really, really difficult. | ||
| There's not a lot of stable families. | ||
| in that field. | ||
| Military, same way, right? | ||
| You know, I remember the unit I was in because we were in a high deployment unit, | ||
| high up tempo before I got out, last one I was in, that I mean, | ||
| I could just see the guys who had been in there for, you know, 20 years, guys who were in 30 years, | ||
| and all of them were on their second wife, all of them were like starting their second family, | ||
| and you hear all these jokes about, oh, I'm a starter wife, I'm a starter family, | ||
| and all this, and it's like, I don't want a starter family. | ||
| I want a family. | ||
| But that happens no matter what profession you're in, too. | ||
| I mean, doesn't this happen in the military? | ||
| And Seth Rogen's only 40? | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| I thought he was 50. | ||
| My dad had. | ||
| He's 40. | ||
| He looks. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| He looks terrible. | ||
| Basically, one wasn't married, but he has children with four different women. | ||
| Oh, I thought he was like 50. | ||
| And he never he never moved out of. | ||
| I mean, he never moved out of New England. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But I'm also I'm also making a more general point that certain industries and certain occupations lend themselves. | ||
| When I was married, me and my wife went through two deployments. | ||
| She went to Iraq once and Afghanistan once. | ||
| And that doesn't make anything That sounds awful. | ||
| At all. | ||
| It was horrible. | ||
| Sucked. | ||
| Without revealing other people's private information, I can, my buddies. | ||
| I mean, you're, when you're, distance, the point of being together is literally being together when you're, you're there, you know? | ||
| So distance. | ||
| That's one of the reasons, man, when it comes to, you know, this, we never show videos. | ||
| They always show those videos of a soldier coming home to their kids. | ||
| And they're all so happy, but they never show the video of the front end of that where, you know, daddy's got to go off to get shot at. | ||
| Mommy has got to go off to get shot at. | ||
| And you sit there and you go, I mean, you think of like a Joe Kent situation and he's, you know, I'll talk about it because he's open about it, that about what happened to his wife, you know, two little boys and she's killed in Syria. | ||
| And then Matt Gaetz goes up yesterday and tries to explain, tries to get someone to just answer the question. | ||
| Why do we have these troops over there doing all this? | ||
| And so we have to fight ISIS. | ||
| Well, Is ISIS in Syria a poised to attack us? | ||
| Like you're gonna find crazy groups everywhere in the world. | ||
| It's because the pipeline and they think, well, it'll be 9.99 a gallon. | ||
| No, no, no, I mean, I get all that, but I guess as, you know, | ||
| if there's anything that I can do from a, to be a voice for is to say that these are real people | ||
| with real families and real children that are losing parents and losing time with parents, | ||
| which can be just as bad for their development, that you're sending people | ||
| and you're playing with these families. | ||
| And if you're gonna do that, then okay, let's do that for a reason that matters. | ||
| You only have little kids for like a minute. | ||
| Thankfully, I'm hoping to have kids in my life, but I didn't have young kids and miss out on their formative years and stuff. | ||
| Our guitar player just had a kid a year and a half ago, and we've done one tour since, and it was ten weeks! | ||
| I watched the guy suffering. | ||
| You know, this dude that I've been in a band with for 20 years, you know, I've heard all the jokes you can imagine that dudes would make, you know, in a metal tube, and then watching him just be miserable, crying, because he's gotta leave his kid. | ||
| And it's like, you know, you've had like this awesome situation where he's been at home for the first year of the kid, you know, it's like, it's... It's almost like there's a biological, spiritual, natural imperative to raising children. | ||
| But let's just think about this from a logical standpoint, not an emotional one. | ||
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| What makes them who they are will cease to exist from humanity. | ||
| By the way, I'd just like to say that I'm totally fine with Seth Rogen not having kids. | ||
| Speaking about totally fine with that. | ||
| This is my point. | ||
| If these are the people, like Chelsea Handler and Seth Rogen, who aren't having kids, we're not upset. | ||
| I mean, more power to them. | ||
| They're doing what they want, and I don't care if they don't have kids. | ||
| If the media manipulates people to not have kids, then they're selecting themselves out of the gene pool. | ||
| I'm fine with it. | ||
| I'm fine with it. | ||
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Done. | |
| So I'll give you a great example. | ||
| Ian, have kids. | ||
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Thanks. | |
| Ian, go to Latin Mass, remember we're going in Austin, and then have kids. | ||
| Are you guys going right after Latin Mass that night? | ||
| Yes, exactly. | ||
| Make it happen? | ||
| So yeah, I will find some girl for you. It'd be great. | ||
| So this Sunday, I remember, so it's Lent right now. And I've, you know, you're supposed to, you know, sacrifice something | ||
| for Lent. So something I'm doing is I'm doing digital fast on | ||
| So no social media, no screens. | ||
| I've been wondering, how does that feel? | ||
| Mark Wahlberg's 40-day challenge, you mean? | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| I'm definitely super against the Halo app. | ||
| I'm sorry, Mark. | ||
| Marky Mark. | ||
| What's the Halo app? | ||
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Pay $8.99 to learn how to pray. | |
| Really? | ||
| I've basically been digitally fasting on weekends as it is for a while. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| And it's so good. | ||
| And you're standing a lot. | ||
| Sitting a lot. | ||
| No, I just go to the poker tables and just turn everything off and ignore everybody. | ||
| It's very healthy. | ||
| And I came in, I came back on like Sunday night or Monday morning, whatever it was, and was like, hey man, somebody was like dragging you on Twitter and this thing went on and that thing. | ||
| And I was like, you know what I did? | ||
| I was walking around the lake counting turtles with my kids. | ||
| Counting turtles? | ||
| Just counting turtles with my kids. | ||
| We found three. | ||
| Dude, that depth perception is huge. | ||
| Every day someone sends me something like, bro, did you see what they're saying about you now? | ||
| Every time, man. | ||
| Every time. | ||
| They say shit about me all the time, dude. | ||
| What do the crickets say about you? | ||
| So, you know, my phone was dead. | ||
| I had like 10% battery left. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Last weekend. | ||
| I was like, this is perfect. | ||
| And I just put in my pocket and I'm like, I'm gonna sit at this table and nothing else is happening. | ||
| It's so good. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| Then I had some sushi, some crab rangoons. | ||
| You know what else we've been doing? | ||
| Those are good. | ||
| And I've been reading a ton. | ||
| And just getting the physical book. | ||
| And I was a guy and then I got this from when I was in the military just to playing a lot because you can't really carry books. | ||
| So I kind of got into e-books, I got used to it. | ||
| But then I would read on my phone. | ||
| And the problem with reading your phone is that you read like a couple sentences and then you're like, what's going on Twitter? | ||
| What's going over here? | ||
| And then you miss it. | ||
| And I forgot how fast you can read with a physical book. | ||
| You can just read the book. | ||
| I keep thinking about the neural net. | ||
| It's a different experience. | ||
| It's like reading a 10x. | ||
| It's like a movie. | ||
| Reading a book, a physical book, unfolds in your brain. | ||
| It's better than a movie. | ||
| If it's a good book, it can be better. | ||
| It unfolds differently in your brain. | ||
| Do you guys think Neuralink is inevitable or their species will just divide or bifurcate and people will and people won't and there'll be conflict or something? | ||
| I wonder. | ||
| I think there'll be a species that, so there'll be divisions, but I also think that there's something immutable to humanity that no amount of sophistication, whether it be Neuralink or anything like that, will ever be able to compensate for. Yeah, you're saying | ||
| counting turtles with that depth perception of reality, like you're supposed to look into the horizon | ||
| for 15 minutes a day. So when we went to when we went to Davos with Tanya, I guess two years ago now, | ||
| that it was May of 2020. | ||
| So, we went to the Metaverse, had like a kiosk set up there on the street, and so Tanya goes in, and the Metaverse, you know, this like Swedish girl comes up to her and says, she's like, oh this is wonderful, then your children, they will not need to go to the zoo, they will not need to go to the forest, they can just go to the forest in the Metaverse. | ||
| Oh my goodness, what a horror! | ||
| And so Tanya is looking at her going, so you want my... | ||
| kids to sit in their room with the screen, not just on the screen, but with the screen attached to their face and be in, not interacting with, with real nature or going to a zoo and seeing real animals, but you want them to see fake animals on a screen. | ||
| And it just, as a mom, you know, and kind of like a half normie, she was like, absolutely not. | ||
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No way. | |
| Ethical question. | ||
| Would you neural link with your child so that you would never be away from them? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| What if you had to travel a lot? | ||
| No, never. | ||
| Like six months out of the year? | ||
| Absolutely never, no. | ||
| I mean, and I grew up... | ||
| In space or something? | ||
| I grew up without my mom present. | ||
| What are you saying with like, but like in a metaverse scenario? | ||
| No, I would never... | ||
| No, like you are an astronaut, you get selected to go on some mission, you're going to be | ||
| gone for four months out of the year at a time or whatever, you have a chance to link | ||
| up with your kids so you can share thoughts? | ||
| No, that's a terrible idea. | ||
| You should not be sharing thoughts with your children. | ||
| Your child should grow up... | ||
| Would it be permanent? | ||
| As their own person. | ||
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It would just be an optional open source opportunity. | |
| Would it be like a phone call? | ||
| You know, what if you could plug your kids brain in and reprogram bad things? | ||
| You know, like I would never do anything like that. | ||
| But what if he's like, like throwing rocks at cats? | ||
| Yeah. OK. And then you're like, you got to stop doing that. | ||
| He did once destroy an iPad with a rock. | ||
| Wow. Because he wanted to see what would happen. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| A serious question. | ||
| What if you catch your kid capturing cats and torturing them? | ||
| Would you be like, I am going to remove that from them. | ||
| This is a bad thing. | ||
| They're going in a bad direction. | ||
| Yeah, but you don't remove something by tampering with someone's brain in a gross and physical sense. | ||
| Here's a question for you guys. | ||
| If your kid accidentally killed someone, would you shield them from the law? | ||
| I think it depends on the circumstances. | ||
| Was it an actual accident? | ||
| An accident. | ||
| Like, they're driving, and they blew a red light, hit a car, the person died, they come home in a panic saying, what do I do? | ||
| Would you either, like, would you shield them in any way? | ||
| I think I would probably... Of course. | ||
| I would hire the best fucking attorney I could possibly find. | ||
| I drove the car. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| A lot of parents would be like, that was me driving. | ||
| I drove the car. | ||
| I wouldn't do that. | ||
| I wouldn't say I was driving the car because that would be too easily disproven. | ||
| There's cameras everywhere. | ||
| When I was in the military, there's always that question of like, hey man, would you take a bullet for the president? | ||
| Would you do this? | ||
| Take a bullet for that person? | ||
| And it's always kind of like, well, I'd prefer not to. | ||
| I'd prefer to be in a situation where you don't have to do that. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But when it comes to my kids, it's like, I don't even have to think about it. | ||
| Of course I would. | ||
| That's probably just genetic. | ||
| Just of course I would. | ||
| Like ancient genetic code. | ||
| Oh, that's your baseline, like first built, like God had the first thought of a human and that's like the first thing. | ||
| So in this neural net experiment. | ||
| Yeah, like I don't even have to think about it. | ||
| Of course I would take a bull for that. | ||
| So if you were the neural net thing if it was like optional like the kid didn't have to you weren't reading his mind It was just like when you guys want to talk you can and it's like you can just trade thoughts really quick You can see what he's seeing so you can like see what he's up to if you want if he wants to Would you take that opportunity? | ||
| I think independence is too essential for a human being to be able to survive and to feel good and to be confident. | ||
| I don't, I won't, I would not want that. | ||
| Are you talking about phone calls? | ||
| You're talking about cyborgs. | ||
| Yeah, phone calls. | ||
| Video chat, like it's just kind of the next evolution of video chat. | ||
| I don't think it is the next evolution, but I'm totally opposed to neuralink, like I don't want any piece of this. | ||
| What if it's like, it's like one of those, like what do they call it, the loading room in Matrix? | ||
| Right? | ||
| Where it was all white and you just kind of, you could just call up whatever you wanted, you know? | ||
| And so if it was something like that and I could meet my kid there virtually. | ||
| Then essentially you're just, you're both experiencing, it's a virtual place, but you're not in each other's head. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
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It's like a phone call. | |
| That's like playing video games. | ||
| You don't want to go into someone else's head and you don't want someone else actually inside your head. | ||
| What if the government held you down and plugged a Neuralink into you and then started downloading your thoughts and you're like, nah. | ||
| I think you'd just have to be like, no. | ||
| That's actually what happens to Ian after every show. | ||
| If it's just like a VR that you can put on in a room with your kid and you can have a normal conversation, as opposed to injecting something into your neck. | ||
| I think people have a big problem with the injectable thing. | ||
| Did you guys hear the story about the 20-something-year-old daughter who gave her kidney to her 60-year-old dad? | ||
| I did, and she didn't even tell him. | ||
| I heard about that, but it was anonymous, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, he was like, absolutely do not do this. | ||
| Right, and I feel like he probably felt immense pain at learning that his daughter is gonna live 10 more years so he can live five, that she'll be 35 and in a hospital. | ||
| She'll lose 10 years. | ||
| No, you don't live that long when you have one kidney. | ||
| Like, people who give kidney transplants don't live that long. | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| Really? | ||
| You can't live that long? | ||
| Yeah, like, she might live to be 50, and you can't drink, and you have to be careful on your diet. | ||
| You have one kidney. | ||
| It's like, it's bad. | ||
| I wonder if stem cells will help. | ||
| No more alcohol ever, you know? | ||
| And so she's in her 20s, and she gave her dad a kidney, so we can have about five more years? | ||
| That'd be cool to fund stem cell treatment for her. | ||
| Well, she already gave her kidney up. | ||
| But for her single kidney, just keep it healthy for her life. | ||
| Like, I can't imagine. | ||
| She thinks she's doing the right thing because she loves her dad, but I feel like that's probably the most painful thing you've ever heard. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I don't think I would do that for my parents. | ||
| And I even, I like my parents. | ||
| I don't think a parent would want that. | ||
| I don't think they would want me to. | ||
| No. | ||
| No, I don't think so. | ||
| Homer Simpson has said this on more than one occasion. | ||
| Every parent's dream is to watch their children die. | ||
| Huh. | ||
| Or something like that. | ||
| What about the doctors who let her do that knowing that it was against her father's wishes? | ||
| To outlive their children. | ||
| To outlive their children. | ||
| Not to watch them die, but to outlive their children. | ||
| Yeah, obviously no one feels that way. | ||
| At what point do you think when you're like communicating with someone that you're in their brain? | ||
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What? | |
| What you said earlier, you don't want to be in someone's brain. | ||
| I don't think you're ever in someone's brain. | ||
| I think that you can have the feeling that you're super close to somebody and that you're entirely simpatico. | ||
| He's talking about Neuralink though. | ||
| I know. | ||
| But like... | ||
| I don't know, like once you get to that point of... Because like when you look at someone's eyes, you're kind of brain to brain vibrating, like bouncing light brain to brain directly because of the eyeball brain stem. | ||
| But isn't that part of the beauty of communication though, is being able to attain that level of closeness without actually penetrating the other person's mind? | ||
| Oh that is pretty cool. | ||
| I mean that is communication basically. | ||
| That's the most wonderful form of it. | ||
| I think that I mean Neuralink is going to be a Pandora's box of opening up things that we're never going to be able to fully predict because keep in mind that at any given time you have a Running stream of consciousness, we all do. | ||
| We're already seeing the effects of the world with Twitter, where Twitter is almost like we're being exposed to everyone else's stream of consciousness. | ||
| Whereas as before, it's like, oh, hey, that's my neighbor, you know, I know my neighbor, that's what's up, Bob, you know, Bob usually goes to work around this time, Bob puts his trash out, you know, in the morning, I put my trash out in the evening. | ||
| And that's what I know of Bob, right? | ||
| But now it's like, I can follow Bob on Twitter. | ||
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And it's like, whoa, Bob believes what about Trump? | |
| Bob believes what about the FBI? | ||
| Bob believes, you know, believes what? | ||
| You know, Bob's this, Bob's that. | ||
| And suddenly you're judging people based on their inner thoughts. | ||
| We're already doing that. | ||
| And we're seeing how Twitter and other social media are Really testing the fabric of society. | ||
| So with Neuralink, I think you're gonna have that on a whole nother level. | ||
| Yeah, worse than people realize. | ||
| To the point where you can't even control the thoughts that you... Think about this algorithmic thought distribution. | ||
| You'll be sitting there being like, I'm gonna think something really nice and send it to my family. | ||
| And then your family never hears the nice thoughts, only the angry thoughts. | ||
| Well, the other thing too that happens is if you think about it, sometimes you have thoughts That are like totally wacky thoughts and you didn't even mean to have them. | ||
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They just come into your mind. | |
| Intrusive thoughts. | ||
| Intrusive thoughts. | ||
| And, or like, you know, you have a dream. | ||
| Those come from demons, by the way. | ||
| Not something that you want. | ||
| And you have to be able to say to yourself, okay, these are thoughts that I'm having. | ||
| That doesn't mean that they are thoughts that I believe in. | ||
| I am entertaining these thoughts and they are going to flip right by. | ||
| And I don't have to deal, like, I don't have to internalize. | ||
| You don't have to internalize all the thoughts you have. | ||
| Yeah, there's this. | ||
| Some of them you can just be like, oh, that's crazy. | ||
| I thought that. | ||
| The tobacco demon hits me every once in a while. | ||
| They call it the father. | ||
| The tobacco demon. | ||
| Ayahuasca, the mother. | ||
| Tobacco's the father. | ||
| So I've, I've never, like, I quit drinking, what, 17 years? | ||
| And like, I don't think about, like, I just, I never think, like, I never had that feeling of like, oh, I want to drink. | ||
| But every once in a while, just randomly, I could be driving, I could play music, whatever, and it'll just hit me like, man, I go for a cigarette. | ||
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It's like, whoa, where did that come from? | |
| I haven't had a drink in five years, and I haven't had a cigarette in three. | ||
| I never, thank you, I never think about drinking ever. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| Cigarettes, man, if I walk by someone smoking, I'm like... | ||
| Man, I'm gonna kick your ass and take that, you know? | ||
| In South America, this dude was telling me they would boil the tobacco and then drink it and puke and have these psychedelic experiences and they would, the natives would call it like... I mean, that's similar to how I like it. | ||
| I just wanna try it. | ||
| Yeah, and I guess maybe even mix those two together at some point. | ||
| Right, so it wasn't just the ayahuasca plant that they were doing it with. | ||
| To your point, they were doing it in process. | ||
| Yeah, I was shy. | ||
| I didn't know they had tobacco fasts, but they were like tobacco ceremonies and stuff. | ||
| So there's this frequency called the Schumann resonance. | ||
| It's in the ELF band, the extremely low frequency band of our, I don't know if it's in the outer atmosphere or inner atmosphere or something. | ||
| But it changes in frequency. | ||
| It's just a frequency band. | ||
| It depends on what it is. | ||
| Yeah, and it violates. | ||
| It goes up and down. | ||
| And you're like, what the fuck? | ||
| And it seems to resonate with human activity. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I've heard that. | ||
| I haven't really looked too deeply. | ||
| We were actually talking about the ELF band earlier this week because that's how you communicate with submarines. | ||
| OK, and I wonder if that's where those thoughts are coming from. | ||
| They come into your head? | ||
| You need a giant antenna, super powerful, because you have to penetrate through the saltwater. | ||
| You have to penetrate through the salinity layers to be able to get to the submarine, which is beneath. | ||
| And it's like texting on a Nokia phone, even with all this power. | ||
| That's why I was talking about the Nord Stream attack. | ||
| Don't know the rest of the words? | ||
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Don't know the rest of the words. | |
| That's all I got. | ||
| I want to play this song. | ||
| Wait, do you want to look up the lyrics to House of the Rising Sun and I'll play it? | ||
| Yeah, I'll do that. | ||
| Phil Labonte singing House of the Rising Sun. | ||
| Can I sing too? | ||
| Yeah, if you can sing. | ||
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What do you sound like? | |
| 我祝你生日快乐! | ||
| 祝你生日快乐! | ||
| to the summer To the summer Jenny shunner Tim to the shunner I learned I | ||
| learned man. I think it's Mandarin bond. Oh, yeah A minor, C, D, F. And then at the end of the verses, A minor, E, A. A critical struggle. | ||
| I'll watch you and do it. | ||
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it now people are told John John John yeah yeah you have a base do you yeah | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, we took the bass out for the music video shoot. | ||
| Here, you ready? | ||
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Yeah, go ahead. | |
| Start it. | ||
| You start it. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| There was a house in New Orleans They call the Rising Sun | ||
| It's been the room of many a poor boy And God, I know I'm one | ||
| My mother was a tailor She sewed my new blue jeans | ||
| you I don't know the next part. | ||
| Why'd you stop? | ||
| Because I don't know the rest of it! | ||
| I thought you were reading it. | ||
| Well, I'm warmed up. | ||
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It's fuckin' rock. | |
| I'm gonna play this one. | ||
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This is the beginning. | |
| Where do we leave off? | ||
| Now, the only thing a gamblin' man ever needs... Not the only thing a gambler needs... Is a suitcase and a trunk. | ||
| And the only time a little like him is satisfied is when he's on a drunk. | ||
| So mothers, tell your children not to do what I have done Spend your life in sin and misery in the house of the | ||
| In the house of a rising sun Well I've got one foot on the platform | ||
| rising sun Well I've got one foot on the platform and another foot on | ||
| And another foot on the train I'm going back to New Orleans | ||
| the train In sin and misery | ||
| To wear that ball and chain That was us half playing a song because everybody kind of | ||
| gave up halfway. | ||
| Yeah, you know what happened is I looked at the lyrics and I'd only got half the lyrics. | ||
| I had to look up Dylan's lyrics to get all of them. | ||
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Dylan's? | |
| I'm on a digital fast. | ||
| I was just here to rock. | ||
| I have no idea like how the song goes beyond the first. | ||
| It was the animals. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Like the first one. | ||
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It's all the same thing. | |
| I was like the... Yeah. | ||
| All right, I'm going to play this song, Earthbound, because I do that in this song. | ||
| I change octaves. | ||
| It's called Earthbound. | ||
| Here goes. | ||
| Let me get this. | ||
| I want to make sure you can hear the guitar, too. | ||
| Let's see if you can ad-lib some screams, some harmonies. | ||
| I can do it. | ||
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We can do it. | |
| I just need to practice it so I know it. | ||
| Everyone feels just a little bit. | ||
| All of the people are pushing a little bit. | ||
| All of the round heads that abound. | ||
| Pushing and pulling so intricate. | ||
| All of a sudden the rivers are golden dreams. | ||
| We can roll. | ||
| We can stream the flow. | ||
| Suffering a little bit. | ||
| We can change the world and we both know that. | ||
| No one's just half of it. | ||
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Loping inside. | |
| You're playing a lie. | ||
| Rock and rolling on the edge of it. | ||
| As we tip over we fall to the side. | ||
| Long days alone, the feelings I've known Give me a little bit of everything | ||
| Though my emotions run red with the sound We're gonna find our go-getter all things in time | ||
| Everyone plays the game a little bit. | ||
| And all the people curve around and are into it. | ||
| We're gonna find all things in time. | ||
| Everyone plays the game a little bit. | ||
| All the types been making, taking, and breaking it. | ||
| We can rise, we can stream the tide, smiling up towards ecstasy. | ||
| We can hang around and rhyme the vows that spread out of the walking tree. | ||
| Open inside and playing alive, rocking and rolling on the edge of it, as we tip over, fall to the side. | ||
| Well, fuck that last part up there. | ||
| I'd go into a little bit more harmony there, I guess. | ||
| My emotions run red with the sun Whoa shit, that's a... | ||
| Oh I fucked that last part up there I go into a little bit more harmony there I guess | ||
| Oh we can do that last part again We can ride, we can ride the clouds | ||
| Down everywhere, we can travel Hey, yeah, yeah | ||
| Long days are long and feelings are long Give me a little bit of everything | ||
| Oh my, I'm on a run, red with the sun Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha | ||
| Da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh Karma Police? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No. | ||
| Radiohead? | ||
| No. | ||
| That would be so sick. | ||
| I mean, that would be cool. | ||
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That should do Karma Police. | |
| Karma Police. | ||
| You've got the voice for that, though. | ||
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Yeah, that song, it's all those high notes. | |
| I couldn't hit those high notes. | ||
| That's more you than Phil. | ||
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Phil could do... I think that song could be really, really raucous. | |
| really fucking epic. You know the words? | ||
| You're gonna love it. You're gonna love it. You're gonna love it. You're gonna love it. | ||
| Like a detuned radio. Karma police. | ||
| Arrest this girl, her Hitler hairdo is making me feel ill, but we have crashed her body. | ||
| This is what you'll get. | ||
| This is what you'll get. | ||
| This is what you'll get when you mesh with us Come on, police | ||
| I've given all I can, it's not enough I've given all I can, but we're still on the payroll | ||
| This is what you'll get you | ||
| you This is what you'll get. | ||
| This is what you'll get when you're lost with us For a minute there, I lost myself | ||
| I lost myself For a minute there, I lost myself | ||
| I lost myself I think it goes on longer than that or whatever. It just | ||
| kind of repeats. | ||
| Yeah, like one more time. | ||
| It's not a super long song. | ||
| It's only four and a half minutes. | ||
| Four and a half, that seems long. | ||
| That's a long song. | ||
| That's not short. | ||
| You know, I have one other song I think we're gonna consider releasing on Trash House Records coming up. | ||
| It's called Frequent Measure. | ||
| What's a cover we could do? | ||
| Do something easy. | ||
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Do Green Day. | |
| She, let's sing She by Green Day in honor of Women's Day yesterday. | ||
| I don't know that one. | ||
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I don't either. | |
| I haven't seen, I haven't listened to that song forever. | ||
| Just do some Rammstein, something light. | ||
| Yeah, Du hast. | ||
| I know that one. | ||
| That's a good song. | ||
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Du riechst so gut. | |
| A little Sabaton. | ||
| What's like a four? | ||
| Do some like... How's the Rising Sun the easy one like everybody knows? | ||
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Oh, I used to know how to play Ohio. | |
| Journey? | ||
| No, not Journey. | ||
| But that's just like four chords. | ||
| That's like A-F-C-G. | ||
| I'm just saying everyone knows it. | ||
| You can play any pop song with A-F-C-G. | ||
| What about Beatles? | ||
| I used to know a ton of Beatles. | ||
| I don't know anything. | ||
| I was playing a crackpot version of Blackbird a moment ago. | ||
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Black Sabbath singing in the dead of night. | |
| But I don't actually know how to play it. | ||
| I just like, you know, crackpot version. | ||
| I read tabs once and that was about it. | ||
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Well, I don't know. | |
| If you haven't got any ideas, maybe we just go to bed. | ||
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Oasis? | |
| Oasis? | ||
| Oh man, I used to know all that stuff! | ||
| Oasis is like... You know what I used to know? | ||
| Have you ever seen The Rain? | ||
| How do you play that one? | ||
| I love that song. | ||
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I've recreated songs, but... No, look, I haven't... How do you play... Have you ever... Someone told me long ago... Yeah, that one's great. | |
| That one's really easy. | ||
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How do you play that one? | |
| Yeah, it is. | ||
| It's like, walks down... | ||
| I can't remember the last time I sat down to learn someone else's music. | ||
| Kid songs for me. | ||
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It's how easy it is. | |
| Like kid songs and like Christmas songs. | ||
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So long ago, there's a calm before the storm. | |
| And I know, we've been coming for some time. | ||
| When it's over, so they say, it'll rain a sunny day. | ||
| And I know, shining down like water. | ||
| I wanna know, have you ever seen the rain? | ||
| And I want to know, have you ever seen the rain? | ||
| The rain, the rain, the rain, the rain. | ||
| Coming down on a sunny day. | ||
| What's the name of the song? | ||
| Have you ever seen the rain? | ||
| Have you ever seen the rain? | ||
| You know it, right? | ||
| I don't know it. | ||
| I know all of it. | ||
| John Fogerty. | ||
| CCR. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Wonderful. | ||
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Yesterday and days before. | |
| The sun is cold, the rain is hot. | ||
| And I know. | ||
| Been that way for all my time Till forever on it goes | ||
| In a circle fast and slow And I know | ||
| It can't stop, I wonder I wanna know | ||
| Have you ever seen the rain? | ||
| I wanna know Have you ever seen the rain, rain, rain, rain, rain | ||
| coming down on a sunny day? | ||
| Boop. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Well, that was fun. | ||
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That was fun. | |
| Oh, no. | ||
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Ah! | |
| Yeah. | ||
| He always has that. | ||
| Like, when you really say it. | ||
| Has that been your experience? | ||
| Yeah, it's a big one. | ||
| But just in general, as a singer, when you're singing, it's less about hitting the notes or making it sound right. | ||
| It's just about saying what you're saying? | ||
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No. | |
| You find it the opposite or both together? | ||
| How do you see it? | ||
| You gotta know where you're going. | ||
| Well, that's for sure. | ||
| If your shoes aren't tied, you're gonna trip. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| You have to know where you're going. | ||
| You think so? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| When you say, shoes aren't tied, you're talking about how you're starting to get there. | ||
| You have to know where you're going. | ||
| You have to know where the note is. | ||
| You don't have to have perfect pitch. | ||
| But you have to have good relative pitch, so you have to hear the other notes that are going on around you in the song, and you have to know where you're going to. | ||
| So once you know, then when you're singing it, I used to be all technical. | ||
| I'm like, I gotta hit the note how I think it sounds, and then I realized, no, I gotta say the words like I think they mean, and when you do that in the notes, It's two different, well you got, there's three things that, when I'm in the box and I'm doing stuff, there's three things that producers tell me. | ||
| They're gonna tell me I don't believe it, which means I'm not performing it well, my timing, or my notes. | ||
| So either I don't believe it, pitch, or timing. | ||
| That's the only thing that they say. | ||
| Like, I'll do a line, and the only thing I hear in my ears is the producer go, timing. | ||
| Because if you're focused too much on your pitch, then you might not believe it. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| But if you're focused too much on believing it, then you might not hear it. | ||
| I was too much on believing it on Earthbound, but my speed was completely fucked. | ||
| It was all over the place. | ||
| That's a plague to my entire career. | ||
| So those are the three things you need to make sure. | ||
| You have to be in time, you have to have the right pitch, and then you also have to perform it. | ||
| So if you're hitting the notes, but you're doing, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, | ||
| na, it's like you're not performing unless you're giving it. | ||
| So those are the three things you need. | ||
| Come on, Phil, what do you know about recording music? | ||
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Not a goddamn thing! | |
| Do you ever record multiple microphones at the same time? | ||
| No. | ||
| One at a time, do it over, and then there's this program called VocalLine that we use. | ||
| Do you know Country Roads, Take Me Home? | ||
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Country roads, take me home. | |
| I was going to suggest that by the way. | ||
| I don't know the beginning. | ||
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West Virginia, mountain mama. | |
| Take me home. | ||
| Country roads. | ||
| Country roads. | ||
| Take me home. | ||
| To the place where I belong. | ||
| West Virginia. | ||
| Mountain mama. | ||
| Take me home. | ||
| Country roads. | ||
| That's another one. | ||
| I don't know the verse. | ||
| We only know the chorus. | ||
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I don't know how the rest goes. | |
| West Virginia. | ||
| Blue Ridge Mountains. | ||
| Shenandoah River. | ||
| Life is old there. | ||
| Wait, wait. | ||
| Scroll down on me. | ||
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Life is old. | |
| There, oh there, older than the trees, younger than the mountains, growing like a breeze. | ||
| Country roads, take me home, to the place I belong. | ||
| West Virginia, mountain mama, take me home, country roads. | ||
| I don't know how to sing the verse. | ||
| I don't know how the verse goes. | ||
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The bridge is... I don't know what the chords are on the bridge. | |
| There's just the chorus? | ||
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Oh yeah, you got it. | |
| In the morning hour she calls me, radio reminds me of my home far away. | ||
| Do be do do. | ||
| Oh yeah, you got it. | ||
| Do do do do do. | ||
| You don't know this album. | ||
| Yesterday, yesterday, take me home. | ||
| They say he was going over the cartoon kiddie mountains, a soul coupling pedal and his funny he was kinting. | ||
| I first pushed my pistol, and then pushed my rapier. | ||
| I said, send a deliverer for the devil, I may see Beryl more showering. | ||
| There's whisky in the jar. | ||
| Well, there was like a good 20 seconds and it sounded really awesome with all of us singing. | ||
| Yeah, it was good. | ||
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It was good. | |
| It was like a thing. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Uh, how about we wrap it up, I guess. | ||
| So this was a special birthday wrap up sing along that we all got to participate in. | ||
| So happy Wednesday. | ||
| I sang, I sang happy birthday to Tim in Chinese. | ||
| He did. | ||
| It was really great. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| We got to do Chinese country roads. | ||
| That'd be great. | ||
| All right, Jack, thanks for hanging out. | ||
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Libby, thanks for hanging out. | |
| Yeah, it's been a blast. | ||
| And for everybody who's a member, thanks for hanging out on my birthday and listening to us play some music. | ||
| And I thought that was something that was pretty awesome. | ||
| We should do something like that later on. | ||
| Maybe we should actually, like, learn a song that everyone can sing along to. | ||
| Rehearse it before I come on live. | ||
| And I'll learn them. | ||
| But, like, if we could actually play Country Roads well and everyone sang along to it, that sounds pretty good. |
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