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March 9, 2023 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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The View Says Tucker Carlson Posting J6 TRUTH Should be ILLEGAL w/Brandon Straka

Tim, Hannah Claire, Phil Labonte, & Serge join Brandon Straka to discuss the establishment media freaking out over the release of new January 6th footage, Stacey Abrams' non profit aligning itself with Antifa, leaked text messages showing Tucker Carlson roasting Donald Trump, & how gay children are being groomed to become trans. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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brandon straka
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hannah claire brimelow
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phil labonte
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tim pool
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tim pool
For whatever reason, the establishment media, they don't care too much about us, podcasters and online shows, and it's probably because we're not nearly as big as a lot of people think we are.
If you're watching shows like this, you assume we are the big show, but we're probably not.
Probably not.
Tucker Carlson, he's a big show, but then again, he's a big show mostly among the older crowd, and his audience in the key demo is actually comparable to ours a little bit more.
That's why I think it's interesting that he's getting so much heat over what's going on, but I get it.
He's a big cable TV news primetime host who put out definitive proof showing that the January 6th committee, Democrats, and the media were lying about what happened on January 6th.
They began lying about what Tucker Carlson actually said and reported on, and now we have Chuck Schumer complaining about it, Elon Musk roasting him and Democrats, and we actually have The View saying what Tucker Carlson did should be illegal.
I just want to point out, to all the people who say things like civil war is not possible or whatever, you have right now 150 far left extremists who just laid siege to a government facility, firebombed it, I would call that an insurrection, 23 were captured, some were not from this country, one was a lawyer from a large non-profit, and now we have Stacey Abrams non-profit advocating people join the terror campaign in Atlanta.
I don't hear the Democrats complaining about that at all.
It's because you're in a cold civil war and you're losing.
I'm not trying to bring a black pill to your day, but the reality is, if the establishment press media, governmental institutions, are ignoring the fact that far-left extremists are firebombing government facilities, shot a cop, put him in the hospital, and they've been doing this for over two years, many of them have been arrested as domestic terrorists, and instead they say, remember two years ago when a bunch of people went and fought in front of the Capitol, and then behind it the cops let a bunch of people in?
Yeah, that's the end of the world.
When they lie about what really happened on January 6th with the peaceful side, where people were let in by cops who opened the doors and fanned them in.
That's reporting from CNN, mind you.
When they lie about that and completely ignore what the far left is doing, I gotta say, the institutions are captured, the narrative is being set, and history is moving in that direction.
So we gotta do what we gotta do.
I mean, we gotta talk about it, we gotta share these stories, we gotta make sure we're telling all our friends and family, and we push back.
And that means, look, come 2024, you gotta pull out all the stops, you gotta make sure everybody goes out and votes.
Ballot harvesting seems to be the key.
Make sure everybody's in and working as hard as they can to get those votes out and make a difference.
We're gonna talk about this plus a whole lot more.
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Brandon Strock!
brandon straka
Hey, you're a Pisces.
tim pool
I am, indeed.
brandon straka
I just looked it up.
tim pool
Yep, the peak of Pisces, March 9th.
brandon straka
Happy birthday!
tim pool
Thank you, sir!
brandon straka
That's awesome.
tim pool
As I will be 37.
brandon straka
I'm flattered that you've invited me to be your birthday guest.
tim pool
Well, the birthday's tomorrow.
brandon straka
Well, close enough.
hannah claire brimelow
Birthday Eve.
brandon straka
Your birthday Eve guest.
tim pool
It was actually going to be Matt Walsh.
unidentified
Was it?
tim pool
Yeah, but something came up, unfortunately.
This is why we don't like to announce guests.
unidentified
Tomorrow?
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We don't like to announce guests because then when something happens, it's like, oh, sorry, I disappoint you, everybody, and I can't make it.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
tim pool
It would have been awesome, though.
Matt Walsh, we would have been very mean together.
So, who are you?
What do you do?
brandon straka
I'm Brendan Strach.
I am the founder of the WalkAway campaign, the movement of people walking away from the Democratic Party.
And sort of, you know, what's going on in the world right now is relevant to my story as well, because I also happen to get kind of ensnared and embroiled into the January 6th thing, which we'll get into, I'm sure, tonight.
And I'd love to tell people about our new app, WalkAway Social, at some point.
tim pool
Right on!
Well, yeah, it's convenient.
We periodically will have a guest who comes on at the right moment when something's breaking in the news and someone asked, they were like, did you book him in advance?
Like all the J6 happening with Tucker and then you have Brandon here.
I'm like, no, no, no, it's just perfect.
It's perfect timing.
brandon straka
That's how it happens.
tim pool
So yeah, we also have Hannah-Claire Brimlow hanging out.
hannah claire brimelow
Hi, I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlow.
I have a piece up on TimCast.com in celebration of International Women's Day.
It's all about the first lady of anti-feminism, Phyllis Schlafly.
So in two hours or whenever stuff's done, go check that out.
tim pool
Yeah, and perhaps in the members-only segment, we have this video of a woman crying because she's too old to have kids, and she's talking about how she can't do without support, and I feel bad for her, but I think it's an interesting conversation culturally, so.
We got Phil hanging out, too.
phil labonte
Hello, I am Phil Labonte, the lead singer of All That Remains, anti-communist and counter-revolutionary, and we also have a my man.
unidentified
Yo, I am Surge.com.
Pleasure, guys.
Take it away, Tim.
tim pool
All right, let's jump into this first story.
Many of you have already seen the videos released by Tucker Carlson, but I want to make sure we can remind you just a quick bit before I show you what Whoopi Goldberg had to say about this.
So we have Chuck Schumer, bald-faced lie, attacking Fox News for shameful use of January 6 video.
How unfortunate.
Elon Musk roasting them, which we'll show in a second.
And then we have the actual, uh, uh, more video footage showing exactly what happened.
In this tweet from, uh, I just saw this in response to someone.
This is, uh, Tony Bagelafs tweeted, If you think Tucker Carlson is a liar, it's because you don't understand.
Buildings have four sides.
The Capitol is massive.
One side was chaos.
The other side had cops waving people in and assisting them inside.
That's not punching cops and breaking windows.
And here is a video showing police opening the doors and letting people in.
The video footage released by Tucker Carlson shows you've got Jake Chansley, the guy with the shaman hat or whatever you want to call it, being given an escort by police who attempt to open doors for him and show him around and then escort him to the Senate chamber where he then says thank you police.
Now, in response to Tucker Carlson reporting on this, the media's gone nuts, the GOP establishment has gone nuts, Mitch McConnell's losing it, the Democrats, the media, that's all they can talk about.
And Whoopi Goldberg had this to say.
Wait, let's get the audio up.
Can you switch the audio over?
Is it good?
whoopi goldberg
Why is this not being scrutinized the way that they scrutinize other things?
Because to me, this should be against the law.
You should not be able to lie to the American, knowingly.
You know, it's one thing if you made a mistake and you didn't know, but we heard for five or six years how, you know, the media was lying, sac-a-do.
They were fake news.
So how come What is our... What do we do as Americans to say this is not okay?
unidentified
You'd have to change the First Amendment.
whoopi goldberg
Well, the First Amendment doesn't allow you to willingly lie.
tim pool
The First Amendment actually does.
So, you know, I'm not one to care too much about the view, to be completely honest, but this does exemplify a serious problem that we have in that Yeah, Whoopi, maybe it should be illegal to lie willfully to the American people, and then I gotta tell ya, you'd probably be the one in jail.
It certainly would not be Tucker Carlson, probably be more like Chuck Schumer.
Don't get me wrong, a bunch of Republicans would be wrapped up in it too, but no, the First Amendment does in fact allow you to lie.
Yeah.
Because there is no arbiter of the truth when it comes to government.
Or at least there shouldn't be, but they're trying to make one.
The scary thing about this is, and the reason why I think it's a good lead story, Tucker Carlson got actual video evidence showing, to be honest, a lot of what we already knew.
There's so much video footage of people walking around.
In fact, let me show you how Elon Musk responded to this, and I want to play you this video.
So Chuck Schumer says Speaker McCarthy has held the gavel for less than three months, but by sharing the January 6th security footage with Fox News, he has already done more than any party leader in Congress to enable the spread of Trump's big lie.
Elon Musk responds, Do you want us to remove this video?
And it's from Steven Voiceover.
I will now play for you this video, and I hope you have a good laugh.
unidentified
Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the U.S.
Capitol Building.
If you've joined us today for the insurrection, please make sure you pick up a promotional leaflet on the way in, stay inside the safety cordons at all times, and if you get lost, speak to one of our Capitol Police officers, and they'll be sure to point you in the right direction.
tim pool
Obviously, this is ingest voiceover showing video footage of people peacefully walking through the Capitol, staying within the security ropes, asking police for help, and being given help by the police.
It's fascinating.
Oh, there's a guy taking a selfie.
The video does show people climbing the wall, people walking in the building.
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tim pool
The funny thing is, if you are, as the left would describe, a right-winger, whatever that means, you're probably well aware that there was violence on January 6th, and you're probably not okay with it.
I don't know, some people probably are.
But the left keeps saying, Tucker's fans and Trump supporters don't know about it.
They're lying.
And they're outright saying on TV they want it to be illegal to tell the truth because the truth is actually the lie, they say.
But don't trust your lying eyes.
We can only just see the video footage from Tucker Carlson.
Here's the issue.
They don't watch it.
They watch The Daily Show.
They watch The View.
The View and The Daily Show then lie about it and they never actually see the evidence.
So what do we do?
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, like, Whoopi Goldberg was almost onto something.
She's like, it should be wrong to lie to the American public.
Meanwhile, she's not aware of the irony of what she's saying, right?
Like, keeping some information and then saying, like, well, that's a lie.
She is, like, right on the cusp of realizing how- She's almost getting it.
Almost getting it, but she's not quite there.
unidentified
Right.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, I am probably not the one in the room to speak to this, but I think it's crazy that so many people will just deny this exists, right?
Like, NBC's headline for this right now is like, he's falsely depicting the January 6th, like, events at the Capitol.
It's video from the Capitol!
How could he be falsely depicting it?
tim pool
They're betting on people not actually watching Tucker Carlson.
hannah claire brimelow
Just seeing the headlines.
phil labonte
When they say falsely depict, I really feel like it's just saying that he's putting out a narrative that doesn't align with ours.
Because the video isn't doctored or anything.
They'll say it's selectively edited.
Well, I mean, there's 44,000 hours.
So yes, it is selectively edited because you can only put up so much material,
but it doesn't change the fact that he's showing video of what happened on that day,
but he's presenting a different narrative.
And the left just can't have anyone that doesn't fall in line
with what their prescribed narrative is.
brandon straka
It excites me so much to see that tweet where the guy made the point
about the four sides of the building.
So I was actually placed on house arrest and I got off of house arrest
for January 6th in May of last year.
And literally within a week of getting off of house arrest, I began doing media I was so anxious to get out and start talking about this and tell the story because nobody was presenting a counter counter narrative nobody
And the first interview that I did was an hour-long sit-down with Tucker on Fox Nation, and this is the point that I was trying to drill home time and time again when I kept doing my interviews.
There are four sides to this building, and unless you were on the west side of the building, which is the side facing the National Mall, you were not seeing people assaulting police officers, scaling walls, breaking windows.
when I arrived on the east side of the building, the two large Columbus doors on the east side
of the building were already open.
And people were saying, people are going inside the building.
So I walked up to the top of the stairs, stood outside and shot a video for eight minutes.
They ended up arresting me.
FBI stormed my apartment, handcuffed me, took me to jail.
When I got out, I found out I was facing multiple felonies and a misdemeanor.
I never even went inside the building on January 6th.
But when I got out, I found out I was facing multiple felonies.
And one of the felonies against me was occupying restricted grounds.
It's peculiar because most people who went inside the building actually got misdemeanors
of occupying a restricted building.
I got a felony for occupying restricted grounds.
But the point of this is that I'm considered an insurrectionist.
I am considered a part of the deadly insurrection of January 6th, even though I was on the opposite side of the building, but people don't get, this is what they don't want you to know.
And this is why they've created these narratives in the plea deal.
Every plea deal that you read from a January sixer is going to include language talking about how they knowingly did this and they did this with this intent and they were there to, you know what I mean?
And then they get to go to the media and say, well, we have a thousand convictions of people
who have confessed that they were there to insurrect or to disturb a congressional hearing,
to disturb the peaceful transfer of power, et cetera.
phil labonte
Everything that I've heard about the confessions and stuff like that sounds incredibly Maoist.
It sounds like the confessions that are given to the people for plea deals and stuff,
because that's how you get a plea deal, you have to confess.
They sound atrociously Maoist.
brandon straka
Well, they write it for you.
Yeah, it's it's it's you they write it you sign it and It's one of the tools that they're using to secure plea deals.
Is this charge called?
felony obstruction of Congress now this is a they've never used the charge in this way before and It's got some sort of historical context that has to do with people intimidating witnesses in a case in the 1970s.
But they bent it and contorted it and twisted it inside out to use it for January 6th to say, well, you know, there was a congressional hearing happening and it had to do with the transfer of power.
So we're going to apply this felony charge of obstruction of Congress, which potentially carries 20 years in prison.
So you've got, you know, felony for standing on the grounds and felony for this and potential felony of obstruction.
You could be facing, I was potentially facing three decades in prison or I could take a misdemeanor for disorderly conduct.
I chose the latter and signed the plea deal.
phil labonte
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
Easy.
brandon straka
That's what's going on.
hannah claire brimelow
Do you find other people are coming to you saying, that's exactly my experience?
brandon straka
Oh, 100%.
I mean, almost every person I know who took a plea deal has shared the same experience of going into a very dark depression.
I actually just did an event at CPAC that we called the True Stories of January 6th, which was a panel event featuring Dr. Simone Gold, John Strand, Jerry Perna, the aunt of Matthew Perna who committed suicide, who was also facing a misdemeanor charge but chose to kill himself rather than go through with the rest of his sentence because the government came to him and said, now that you've signed our misdemeanor plea deal, which would have carried about a maximum six-month sentence, Then they chose to tell him, we're actually going to request a terrorism enhancement to your sentencing.
So now you're facing six years in prison, not six months.
They told him this after he signed the plea deal.
Jerry Perna was on our panel and Derek Evans.
And Derek Evans also took a plea deal and talked about how he, you know, he wept, he cried when he signed it because it's devastating.
hannah claire brimelow
And it's under coercion, really.
I mean, all of these.
brandon straka
I can't say that, but what choice would you make?
tim pool
I'll say it.
I often tell the story about how I got arrested for driving on a suspended license that I didn't know was suspended, because in Illinois, when you're under the age of 21, if you get more than two moving violations within, I think, two years, they suspend your license.
I got a bunk ticket from a cop who claimed I was speeding when I wasn't.
Didn't have the money to pay it off or go to court or whatever.
Didn't know about the law.
And so when I get pulled over and get a ticket, I end up going to court and the judge said, were you coerced in any way?
And I said, yes, your honor.
And then the judge freaked out and he was like, what?
By who?
And I was like, the prosecutor threatened to go to prison for a year unless I pled guilty.
And he goes, that's not coercion.
I'm like, yes, it is.
Are you kidding me?
It absolutely is.
I'm out visiting my family, because I got a brother-in-law who's in Iraq, and my family's freaking out because they're worried he's gonna lose his life.
I drive out there, drive back, also I'm getting arrested for a suspended license, I didn't even know, because I wasn't even here, it happened like a week ago.
Now you're telling me I'm gonna go to jail for a year over this?
Yeah, that's coercion, sorry.
And then he was like, go talk to a lawyer and come back.
I'm sorry, dude.
When a prosecutor goes to any person and says, we are going to give you the maximum, a terror charge, we are going to beat you and torture you, that's coercion.
brandon straka
Right.
We've got unlimited resources.
We're the federal government.
You're an individual of limited means.
It's David versus Goliath.
And we're going to hit you with all of these charges.
Oh, and by the way, we won't transfer jurisdiction of your case.
So you're going in front of a judge and jury who hates Donald Trump, who hates anybody who voted for Donald Trump.
We're not going to let you be seen by a jury of your peers to make the decision.
Or all of this can go away if you sign this piece of paper and take this misdemeanor plea deal.
We're still going to treat it as an act of terrorism.
tim pool
I'm sorry to say to all these people, I keep saying we are inching closer and closer towards civil war.
Maybe, maybe not.
I'm not psychic.
All I can tell you is all of the January 6th defendants, as you just pointed out, will be forced to go in front of a jury of people who despise them for no reason.
Who despise them because Whoopi Goldberg lied to them.
Who despise them because Jimmy Kimmel, because The Daily Show lied to them.
That is a tribal cult.
brandon straka
Right.
tim pool
And no matter what you present to these people in terms of evidence, the responses, it should be illegal to show the truth.
That's what they're saying about Tucker Carlson right now.
Now imagine after Whoopi Goldberg said, Tucker reporting the truth, showing video of it and saying, just watch the video.
She said, that should be illegal?
What do you think's gonna happen when you go to court, as a defendant, and you go in front of these people and say, they'll be reasonable.
Here's a video of the cop waving me in.
The jury will say, we don't care.
Fortunately, that one guy, Martin, whatever his name was, went with a bench trial with a judge.
And the judge, fortunately enough, said, the video does show a cop waving him in the building, so case dismissed.
All charges dismissed.
brandon straka
That's such a rare occurrence.
That was Judge Trevor McFadden.
He is a Trump-appointed judge.
He has a very mixed record.
He's the only judge who has occasionally been reasonable in certain circumstances, but he certainly hasn't been consistently reasonable in a lot of these cases.
It's like you kind of have to catch him on the right day, you know, when he's had, I don't know, the right cocktail of whatever, but it's...
But I mean, that's not how it is all the time.
tim pool
Praise or praises deserve it.
If there's a video of a guy being waved in and the judge said all charges are dismissed, I'll give him credit for that one.
brandon straka
Right.
tim pool
Criticize him where he deserves to be criticized.
brandon straka
I also know a girl, and I happened to meet her several years ago at a different function.
She made the decision to enter the Capitol on January 6th through a broken window.
So she crawled into the building through a broken window, walked around, didn't do anything while she was inside, but then exited again through a broken window.
She went before Judge McFadden and her total sentence was two months of probation, which I thought was very reasonable.
And I actually heard, I listened in, you can call in and listen, I listened to her sentencing and the way he spoke to her was actually very compassionate.
He was stern and said that she had made a mistake, but it was kind of like Go live a better life.
Don't make stupid choices anymore.
You know, and I thought that that was really cool.
Now, in my case, I didn't go inside the building, and I ended up getting jail time, house arrest.
I'm still on probation for three years.
tim pool
I mean, it's... But you didn't get McFadden.
brandon straka
I didn't get McFadden.
It's just, it's such a crapshoot.
tim pool
And, you know... Let's, let's pull this story, because I'd love to hear your thoughts on it.
It's from the Postmillennial.
Stacey Abrams not-for-profit launches direct action against Cop City.
This is Stacey Abrams, who some speculate will run for president, we'll see, encouraging people to join StopCopCity, the hashtag used by the terror organization, the terrorists, some who are not even from the United States, who firebombed Cop City and were charged with domestic terrorism.
So here's what I find fascinating.
We have Whoopi Goldberg saying what Tucker Carlson did in publishing proof of the lies from the Democratic Party and the establishment, the corporate press, saying that should be illegal.
My question is, how come no one in the mainstream press, none of the Democrats, and we know the answer of course, but my question is, if we're trying to approach it logically, to ask someone who is not discerning or doesn't understand, how come they're screaming J6 While far-left extremists are firebombing Atlanta, Memphis, and this police facility, this government facility, when you have foreign individuals joining this group and firebombing equipment and attacking cops with explosives, they're talking about something that happened two years ago.
brandon straka
Right.
tim pool
There's an insurrection going on right now.
Stacey Abrams' organization is helping organize for the terrorists.
They are literally charged with domestic terrorism.
On more than one occasion, they have been charged with domestic terrorism.
And Stacey Abrams is helping.
And a Southern Poverty Law Center lawyer was arrested among the terrorists, and the spokesperson for the SPLC posted in support of the terrorists.
That is not in the mainstream narrative.
brandon straka
No.
Honestly, I think that they actually don't see the things that they do.
It's not even necessarily that there's a double standard or an intentional double standard.
I think that they legitimately don't think it's a crime when they do it.
I think that the, because most of the time, is this about racism?
tim pool
Is this about social justice?
The government is building a large police training facility.
And so they've burned down private buildings, private homes.
They flipped a guy's truck over and torched it.
These are private citizens.
It's just overt terror, political terror.
phil labonte
Ostensibly, the argument that they give is because it's environmental.
They don't want to cut down the trees.
tim pool
Well, not completely.
It's a mix of things.
You've got, depending on who they're talking to, they'll argue, oh, they're trying to deforest.
That's the one I heard most of.
Then they'll say, oh, well, it's because cops are racist.
Oh, but it's because of police files want to defund the police.
So it's just, basically, you have a national banner, anti-file, international, to be honest, They have killed people.
They've been expanding.
And it's nowhere to be seen.
No one cares.
This is the warning I have for everybody.
When Stacey Abrams can have an organization advocate for and support overt terrorism.
I mean, come on.
They're literally breaking into a government compound and setting equipment on fire and torching it.
And there's people from France and Canada who are along with it.
These are foreign individuals in the United States attacking government property.
When that is institutionalized, defended, or outright ignored, like, I gotta say, it sounds like you're losing.
The right is losing.
If Antifa can and has gotten away with murdering people and burning this stuff down, I mean as an institution, as an organization, as an idea, Where is any kind of counterance to this?
So what I mean to say is, Aaron Danielson gets shot and killed in Portland, 30 some odd people in the summer of love riots.
Yes, some of those people who committed those murders have been brought to justice, but as an ideology, Black Lives Matter and Antifa have still not gotten this degree of scrutiny that January 6th did.
brandon straka
Not even close.
And if you remember in 2020, I believe it was in St.
Louis, when that mob of Black Lives Matter protesters went to a gated community.
They broke the gate down, they rushed inside, and a couple came out on their lawn, the McCluskeys.
And there's that kind of iconic imagery of them holding their guns, protecting their property.
We all know how that ended up.
It was the McCluskeys that ended up getting arrested.
It was the McCluskeys that I believe ended up being charged.
It ended up being the enemies and the villains in that case.
And what's interesting is like on a sort of macro level, it's almost an identical situation to what happened at the Capitol.
I mean, you had a mob of people go into an area where they weren't supposed to be.
If the McCluskeys were like the Capitol Police protecting the building, why are the Capitol Police the victims in the January, which, you know, by the way, they are.
But like, why are the McCluskeys the villains for protecting their property in that situation?
tim pool
I warned everybody.
In 2018, I said, sooner or later, These far-left extremists will come to your home, and the cops will sit there and say... Feeling overwhelmed by the negativity in today's world?
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tim pool
It is easier to arrest the homeowner than it is to deal with a riot.
brandon straka
Yeah.
tim pool
And we've seen it on multiple occasions.
The McCloskeys are a good example.
They break onto private property, onto the actual lawn of their building, and the McCloskeys, who own legal weapons, come out brandishing them saying, get off our property.
The McCloskeys are the ones who actually get criminally charged.
You have this story out of Milwaukee where these BLM rioters who had burned down someone else's house, or I should say set someone else's house on fire twice, show up in front of his house, he brandishes a shotgun through his window, the cops come and arrest him in his own home.
I'm sorry man, like, maybe I'm completely wrong to say civil war, and it's more like the revolution is happening, it's been happening, it will continue to happen, and sooner or later you will own nothing and you will be, well, you'll be very unhappy, but don't worry, the government will give you pills, or they'll flog you unless you say you're happy.
brandon straka
You know, after I got arrested and got out of jail, you know, I started reading the 8-page press release that the FBI wrote on my case and submitted to the media.
And then the 30-page sentencing recommendation that the government created on my Class B misdemeanor.
And in it, they went through my social media and pulled a great number of tweets and things like that to sort of substantiate, you know, this person's a lunatic with violent tendencies and look at these things that he said.
And they actually pulled a tweet where I said, Make your peace right now with the fact that we're in a civil war.
We didn't want it, we didn't ask for it, but it's here, and at this point you better kind of open your eyes and see what's happening.
They're like, you know, he's promoting civil war, this guy is dangerous, and I had to kind of explain to them, number one, If you look carefully, I'm saying it's already here.
It's someone else started it.
It's at your doorstep.
But number two, when I talk about a modern civil war, and I think when we talk about a modern civil war, we're not talking about like grabbing your musket and taking out to the streets and starting and shooting people.
We're talking about debanking people, freezing people from being able to send and receive money, from being able to exist on social media or exist in the public square, destroying people's reputations.
tim pool
But that's all the precursor.
Look at civil wars throughout history.
It doesn't start with one day, a guy walks outside and says, you know what?
I'm just so darn mad at the president, I'm gonna civil war!
And then the people go outside with guns and start shooting at each other.
It happens because tensions between factions, either ideological, political, religious, or otherwise, start bubbling up to the point where people then say, I've had enough of you, you're dangerous.
When you see roving bands of far-left extremists going through cities and firebombing storefronts, this is how it starts.
The way it starts is this.
You will have a band of ideological extremists.
They will grow their ideology.
It will percolate down through the masses throughout the entire country.
They'll put up a banner.
They'll identify each other.
They'll recruit.
One day, the extremists will commit very serious crimes.
The police, the government, or locals will defend against those crimes, killing one of the extremists.
The extremists will use that as evidence among their cult that they are being victimized and must fight back with violent force.
Take a look at what happened in Georgia.
Far-left extremists occupying a forest opened fire on police officers, shooting one of them.
These people had burned down private homes already, literally torched houses.
They were under construction, for sale houses.
I don't think people lived in there.
They stopped a guy who was in his truck, a regular old dude, booted him out and flipped it over and set it on fire.
Ideological extremists.
Then when the police get shot at, they return fire, killing one of the extremists.
The corporate press and the activists then say, the police assassinated one of our members, a peaceful man.
Peaceful environmental activist was brutally murdered by the police.
And the Guardian is my favorite.
They said, the police provided no evidence that he was shot.
The officer is said to be in stable condition in the hospital.
He's like, okay, so the cop got shot by this guy.
So we're at that point where there is no right wing equivalent to Antifa.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
The closest you ever got was Proud Boys.
And the Proud Boys were so smart that when they got into a fight with Antifa, they walked up to the cops and said, here's my name and information.
Thanks, officer.
And the cops slapped cuffs on him and put him in prison for four years.
Congratulations.
The closest thing you can even get to anywhere near it is January 6th, which is, yes, a riot.
A lot of people in the front of the building, violent.
And then a lot of people on other sides of the building being let in.
And what happens?
The federal government pulls out all the stops to destroy Anyone, in any way, associated with that day.
If they can, if they can.
hannah claire brimelow
Do you think it's hard for the public to believe that there can be left-wing domestic terrorists?
Because I think back to all of the environmental groups in the 70s that wreaked havoc everywhere.
You know, they were extremely active.
They burned buildings.
They broke into places.
Like, it's actually normal for domestic terrorism to be perpetrated by the left.
But it seems like because they were the party of, like, peace and love and hippies, somehow we, like, forget to say, oh, wait, they can also have extremism.
tim pool
I think it's a combination of Far left extremists know they're lying.
You know, we were talking earlier, I'm a care member who said,
they don't think it's what they're doing is illegal.
They know what they're doing is illegal.
They don't care.
They think they are morally justified in committing crimes against other people.
brandon straka
Maybe that's a better way to say it.
unidentified
Yeah.
brandon straka
Maybe that's a better way to say it, because that I was going to give the same answer that I gave
earlier, which is that most of the time that there's violent extremism that comes from the
left, it's often some way rooted to some sort of social injustice, which often is tied to race.
And anytime the topic of race is involved, it seems like anything goes and anything can be justified.
I mean, you can literally loot and kill and beat people up and burn buildings down.
And if people like us say, What the hell is going on?
People say, oh, these people have been experiencing injustice for generations.
phil labonte
Whether it's race or whether it's LGBT issues or whether it's class, it's all or it's always a Trojan horse for some type of oppression.
And it's always going to be moving leftwards.
We live in the logic of Herbert Marcuse.
You can read about this.
Herbert Marcuse wrote it up in an essay from the 60s called On Tolerance or Pure Tolerance.
And essentially it says it's okay for the left to do whatever.
It's consequentialism.
It's just they're looking for a result which is their policies.
Instituted.
And if their policies fail, that's fine, because it moves the dialectic along.
That's all it is.
The left is entirely built on a dialectic system, so as long as they can implement their policies, they're fine with lying.
They're fine with whatever means, because at their core, they're not liberals.
They don't believe in individual rights the way that we do.
They don't believe that the rights that you have come from your humanity or from God or whatever.
They believe that all rights come from the state.
That means that your rights are just gifts.
So there's no reason to argue about that you have the right for this or you have the right for that.
You have whatever right the state says.
tim pool
I think those ideologies are not as relevant as a lot of people think.
They're certainly wielded as a weapon to guide and control these masses, but I believe that the far-left extremists are chaos and nothing more.
phil labonte
The foot soldiers, yeah, but the people that are calling the shots, the people that are informing the ideas, that are writing the books, that are teaching children, these people are religious fundamentalists.
tim pool
I disagree.
I think that the reason they're going after kids with this gender ideology stuff and the far left stuff is literally just to destroy them.
You don't have a child sterilize themselves if you're trying to create an army or to control
a machine because you're cutting the root out from the plant you need.
The outcome of all of this will be the complete destruction of the West, of American culture.
In which case, they will...
phil labonte
That's the goal.
tim pool
Exactly.
So there's not going to be any kind of communist utopia.
There's not going to be equality.
There's going to be burning rubble.
And they won't be here, they'll be in China.
So they use leftist ideology, in my opinion, as a means to an end.
But, if you actually had people adhering to a structure of this ideology, there would be a structure to it.
However, what we end up seeing is, there's no ideology.
They change things on a whim.
One day it's Wemexin, next day it's women with a Y. One day it's women, now the joke is women plus.
phil labonte
Yeah, women plus.
tim pool
That's a good one.
Women plus.
So...
If there was a consistency to their ideology and goals, I would agree they actually believe this stuff.
But watching this stuff over the past 10 years and seeing there is no Start point and end point?
I'm like, oh, all it is is a chaotic, destructive force that spreads and consumes and destroys.
phil labonte
The chaos is intentional because, like I said before, happy societies don't have a lot of revolutions.
If you have a society that's working with people that trust each other, with a high trust society, where you don't have significant amounts of economic disparity, And you have everybody feeling like they kind of have the same culture and the same kind of, or at least are free to express their cultures, you don't need a revolution.
You don't need to tear everything down.
But if you have enough people that feel like they are unhappy with their lives,
they're unhappy with their station for whatever reason, whether it be because they believe they live in the wrong,
they were born in the wrong body or they believe that they live in a white
supremacist society or whether they believe that that the man is the reason that
they can't get ahead and it's, it's the rich people, blah, blah, blah.
Whatever reason you can use to sow discord in the society is the intent and the
goal because the discord makes people want to revolt.
You want a revolution that way.
brandon straka
But there is an inconsistency as it applies to political lines because they,
they don't embrace the discord or the sense of oppression when it comes to
issues that bother people on the right.
I mean, if you go back and you look at 2020 again and, you know, Black Lives Matter and all the destruction that was done in the name of racial justice.
But they can't seem to wrap their head around why anybody would become inflamed to commit violence on January 6th.
So the question that I've always wondered is, and I don't condone the violence of January 6th, I never have, but the question is, why is it okay to commit violence because black people Some black people feel like they're having some kind of experience in this country that is unsatisfying to them, but you can't wrap your head around the fact that there's an enormous group of people who believe that their election and their vote was being stolen, and that they thought that a fake president was being installed through a stolen election.
phil labonte
It's intentional hierarchy.
There's the in-group and the out-group.
The communists, the party, like the Democrats, whatever you want to call them.
If you want to call them Democrats, it doesn't matter.
But the point is, if you're in the in-group, they make whatever excuses for your behavior.
If you're in the out-group, then you're not even a person.
unidentified
Right.
phil labonte
We're going through a Maoist-style cultural revolution, and if you go back and listen to Mao's speeches or read his speeches, he talks about the people and the democracy, and that's only applied to the actual people that are in the party.
Everyone else is the enemy.
And that's the dynamic that we have here.
When the Democrats talk about, we're worried about our democracy, they are talking about the Democrats and the Democrats only.
And everyone that's trying to destroy our democracy are the people that are trying to do things that the Democrats don't want.
If you do things the Democrats don't want, that is destroying our democracy.
tim pool
When they say we, that is not referring to you.
It's referring to them.
phil labonte
Exactly.
Exactly.
tim pool
Let me pull up this story.
Let's talk about what the deep state will do if you come after them.
I hate him passionately.
Tucker Carlson unloads on Trump in text messages.
What's strange?
The day after Tucker Carlson releases definitive evidence that the J6 committee and Democrats and many Republicans and the media were lying, text messages get released smearing Tucker and framing it as though he hates Donald Trump.
The funny thing is there are photos of Tucker Carlson laughing and hanging out with Trump.
This is two things.
A distraction and an attack.
Stop people from talking.
So when you search for Tucker Carlson right now, you'll see... So earlier today I'm doing research on all these stories.
Tucker Carlson drops these videos.
When I search Tucker Carlson on Google, what do I get?
I get the text messages story.
Something salacious to keep the left focused on.
It's not so much for the right.
The right's gonna be like, yeah, Tucker can say that, that's fine.
People on the right are more understanding and willing to accept that not everybody likes Trump, but they're gonna try and win that argument.
Tucker has done too much good, and there's gonna be some people like, ah, whatever, who cares?
But the left will now watch this instead of the J6 footage debunking the lies from Democrats.
unidentified
Yeah.
brandon straka
Well, I think Tucker effectively became a J6-er this week in a way.
I mean, it's like the media is now, I think, going to start treating him the way they've treated every person who's been arrested on January 6th and everything that they put us through.
I mean, again, when I got through my house arrest and I started doing media and telling my story for a long time, I mean, for like almost a year, I was like the only J6-er out talking and sharing my story.
They have beaten the hell out of me.
I mean, honestly, in many ways, the worst part of my J6 experience happened after my sentencing.
Because when I started talking about it and I started making clear that I was not going to allow this to destroy my career or my life, that I was going to come back from this, I was going to fight back, that's when they got nastier and nastier.
And I actually, I keep saying, I think that the media, we all know that the media is what the media is, but they've almost become Like, they see themselves as a prosecutorial arm of the Democratic Party.
I mean, there were reporters from CNN contacting my prosecutor and giving evidence to my prosecutor and saying, like, you should you should think twice about giving him a plea deal.
Have you seen this?
And have you seen this?
When have you ever heard of reporters doing that?
phil labonte
The vanguard.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
phil labonte
They're the vanguard trying to usher the proletariat through the revolution.
unidentified
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
I think there are so many progressives who go into journalism to be activists.
unidentified
Absolutely.
hannah claire brimelow
They're not there to just present stories and give you a fact and let you draw a conclusion on your own.
They want to control the narrative.
And unfortunately, it's something that they've been able to do on all fronts, right?
Journalism is not about truth.
It's about their truth.
brandon straka
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
So when you were incarcerated after January 6th, can you talk about what that was like?
Because you did the display at CPAC, was it the year before?
brandon straka
CPAC Dallas.
unidentified
Yeah.
brandon straka
In August.
hannah claire brimelow
And I don't know if everyone knows what it was, but there was a jail cell.
brandon straka
Right.
Yeah, so I did essentially a performance art piece at CPAC where we erected a life-size prison cell 8x8.
I mean, the only difference is that it had bars and an actual prison cell like the J6s are being held in is concrete bricks and a metal door where these people, many of them are in solitary confinement have been for years, which is insane
because that's, I mean, I was, look, I was in there for two and a half days, okay? Like it was,
and in that two and a half days, I was also not let out. But by the time I got out after two
and a half days, like I was, I mean, like my nervous system was like on fire.
I was like, get me the hell out of here.
If I had been there for two years, like, these people are never going to be okay.
hannah claire brimelow
Many people are still in this.
brandon straka
Yeah, they're never going to be okay.
Like, these people, they're going to be gone.
Like, there's no way a person can survive that.
hannah claire brimelow
And they say they're doing this for their protection?
Or, like, what's the justification on solitary confinement?
brandon straka
Do you know?
I think that they put them in a special ward, which they have said is for their protection.
I mean, there's all sorts of excuses that they can use.
They can say, oh, COVID, or maybe somebody tested positive.
I don't know the justification necessarily for it going on as long as it has.
I know that they're being treated horribly.
I mean, there have been beatings.
One person, we keep hearing, lost an eye.
I don't know if that's literal or if he was just blinded or what happened, but apparently he had the hell beaten out of him.
Food that's being served to them inedibly and destroyed so they don't have access to their lawyers, calls with their families.
It's really pretty horrifying.
So I was kind of trying to draw attention to that cause.
Unfortunately, because the right-wing media overwhelmingly is so cowardly and afraid to even talk about January 6th or touch this, which is another reason why it was so difficult for me to get my story out as much as I wanted to, very few in the right-wing media actually covered my performance art piece at CPAC, which, by the way, was actually amazing.
I mean, it was actually amazing.
hannah claire brimelow
Cool and different.
No offense to CPAC, but you need new, fresh things.
brandon straka
Yeah. And when I say amazing, I don't mean like I'm amazing.
What I mean is that we had hundreds of people lined up to see it. Because what I did
was we erected a life-size cell.
I put on an orange jumpsuit and a MAGA hat, got inside it, and I kind of like
sat in various poses, not saying anything and not interacting with the audience.
I allowed them to come.
They could talk to me.
They could pray.
They could do whatever they wanted to, but I didn't interact.
All I had was a chalkboard on the black wall and I would keep getting up and changing the messages to say things like, where is everybody?
Why am I alone?
What, you know, things like that.
And then we had audio.
hannah claire brimelow
I was going to ask about the audio component.
brandon straka
Yeah so we had 20 or 30 wireless headsets and people could come and they could put the headsets on and while they were kind of looking at the visual which was me in the cell we had three different channels they could switch between which were the voices of real J6ers telling their stories about being raided by the FBI By being abducted, by being taken and put in a cell and the charges they faced and what it was like going through the DOJ.
It was very powerful and people were like weeping and watching this.
It was amazing.
And then, of course, only the left-wing media was there.
So all you heard about was this unhinged CPAC performance, you know, that was like a carnival.
And at one point Marjorie Taylor Greene did come inside and she held my hands and she prayed.
And I mean, it was lovely.
hannah claire brimelow
But a lot of people were unwilling to interact with what you had set up.
brandon straka
Oh, no, no, no.
From the audience you mean?
hannah claire brimelow
No, I mean like a lot of conservative public figures that might be at CBAC, like Marjorie Taylor Greene went up to it.
brandon straka
She did.
Yeah, there weren't that many, like, big personalities that came in were a part of it.
But I'm even just talking about the media.
I mean, it wasn't reported on by Fox News or Newsmax or, I mean, pretty much anybody on the right.
So the coverage was, you know, we just got dragged so hard with them.
hannah claire brimelow
Except on Twitter.
That's where I heard about it because I wasn't there that year and like, Twitter was in love with it, or at least conservative Twitter was like, this is so fascinating.
brandon straka
I must have missed those tweets.
hannah claire brimelow
See, I got, see people would, I wasn't on Twitter at the time, and people would text them to me, and they'd be like, this is just unusual, it's different, and I think, especially for, you know, conferences, people don't expect performance art, but I think so many people have questions about what happened to the January 6th people, right?
Like, even if you don't agree with the violence, and you don't support it, there are so many unanswered questions that I think a lot of people And that's why I ask, like, do you think it's that people can't grasp that domestic terrorists are left-wing in America?
Because for so long we've been fed, you know, conservatives have guns, conservatives are violent, conservatives are this, that, and the other.
Like, look at Ruby Ridge, look at all these things.
Like, there is an idea that because they want to be left alone or, you know, they're more interested in safeguarding their own rights, they don't want to comply with this larger narrative that conservatives are the ones who we have to be nervous about.
brandon straka
Sorry, that's what I think is is great about what Tucker's doing is that he's It doesn't erase the imagery of people who you know broke windows or fought with police officers Of course not and nobody's saying that like nobody's trying to rewrite the narrative and act like the violence didn't happen What we're trying to do is provide a little more nuance and context here and also to point out just because a person got arrested or charged doesn't mean that they were a part of the Let's overthrow the government, gang!
tim pool
Why didn't Trump just pardon everybody?
brandon straka
I can't answer that question.
tim pool
He should have pardoned a lot of people.
unidentified
I don't know about everybody, but a lot of them.
tim pool
I suppose, how do you get everybody's name?
unidentified
How do you, you know, put out a call?
tim pool
Like, hey, if you were there, send me an email.
hannah claire brimelow
Right, and when did these plea deals get signed?
When did people go to trial?
I mean, I know a bunch of the Proud Boys were just on trial for the first time this year.
Can you pardon someone before they've been officially charged and convicted?
brandon straka
Yes, you can.
tim pool
I think you can.
brandon straka
You can, yes.
hannah claire brimelow
And so he just didn't do it?
Do you think he'll talk about it?
tim pool
Well, he said now they should all be let go.
He came out on Truth Social saying, following the release of this footage, all of these people should be released.
brandon straka
Look, I get very angry and very defensive about people making public statements about January 6th without effectively kind of like doing the due diligence or the
work behind the scenes.
Look, I can tell you I have never been contacted in two years by any of these
people who and it's really frustrating. You know, I have even heard Trump kind of
give credit to certain members of Congress and talk about what amazing
work they're doing on the subject of J6 and I'm like, no they're not. Like no,
Ask any person who's gone through January 6th who's helping them.
The answer is nobody.
Nobody's helping.
Nobody's helping me.
hannah claire brimelow
People affected by January 6th are helping themselves.
So, like, when I went to the Proud Boys trial in January, I sat with people whose family members are part of this and they're saying, like, well, we made our own groups and we found each other therapists to talk to and we found each other, like, resources because Basically, no one wants to talk to us about it.
We can't get any media outreach, and also, like, we are really dealing with what the effects of having someone incarcerated because of this, like, we have legal bills, like, if we want to be in trial, and they're in trial in DC, and we're from Nevada, right?
Like, we have to be here.
We have to put our lives on hold somewhere else.
Like, it's an incredible burden, not only, obviously, on the people who are incarcerated, but on the other people who are affected by it.
brandon straka
It's unbelievable and I mean the amount of money that it costs to go through something like this I mean it's a lot of these are very poor people you know and it's it's not even a matter of you know well this person should be paying their legal bills or whatever but it's like man One post on truth social saying, you know, everyone donate to this fund I mean could raise ten million dollars in 24 hours and you know now everyone's actually got representation For the time being a lot of these people have very liberal public defenders who hate their guts I mean, they're literally j6 defendants whose lawyers are making them watch Schindler's List You know and and and things like that so that they can learn to be a better more compassionate human being is that real?
That's a thing that really happened Wild.
tim pool
Yeah.
Let's jump to this story real quick.
It's a rehashing, but there's some new details.
The Daily Dot reported Matt Walsh lashes out a Daily Wire reporter who quit over his increasing transphobia.
We're in a culture war, a cold civil war, burgeoning into a hot civil war, whatever you want to call it.
And Matt Walsh is mean.
So, of course, the left is really angry, the disaffected liberals are angry, some conservatives, but mostly not really are angry, but some are.
And Matt came out and pushed back.
The story that developed over the past few days is that one of the reporters for the Daily Wire resigned saying, you can't be so mean.
We have this tweet here from Colin Wright.
The journalist Christina Buttons went to work for Colin Wright's publication on Substack, and it's called Reality's Last Stand.
And Callen-Wright says, there is a critical distinction
between frankness and inhumanity.
It is the difference between delivering a harsh truth and compassion and lobbing insults with reckless abandon.
It's the difference between calling someone morbidly obese and a fat F.
He says the actual word though.
This I'm-tired-of-being-nice mentality is dumb.
I've never sugarcoated the truth to avoid hurt feelings.
It's impossible to speak bold truths directly and without euphemism and draw moral lines in the sand while also not engaging in vicious name-calling.
It's not that hard.
He goes on, but I think the point here is, this is one of the reasons why I believe the right could lose.
One of the biggest weaknesses of the right.
Everything we talked about in the previous segments, you've got January 6th defendants who walked into a building where the cops opened the door for them, and they're facing years.
Probably end up getting a couple years like a Like the Q Shaman.
He got convicted, sentenced to four years, and the video shows the police are actually escorting him around the building, but sure enough, that's all it takes when they lie.
And now you have this debate among the anti-woke, anti-establishment about being mean, and there's outrage that anybody would be as mean as Matt Walsh.
You know what Matt Walsh said?
Did he call someone a fat F?
Did he call them, did he have deep, harsh growls and, you sickest!
No, he said to one individual, you are eerie and off-putting, and people who look at you will find you pitiable.
And that was over the line for everybody.
brandon straka
It was a little more than that.
tim pool
That's what he said.
He said you are eerie.
brandon straka
Are we talking about... Dylan Mulvaney.
Thank you.
tim pool
He made a video where he said you are eerie and off-putting.
unidentified
I watched it.
tim pool
When people look at you, they will see something pitiable.
brandon straka
Didn't he also say something about you'll kill yourself and your parents will be glad that you're gone?
tim pool
He never said that.
That's not true.
He did not say that.
Absolutely no way he did not say that.
brandon straka
Did you guys watch the video?
unidentified
I did not.
tim pool
Matt Walsh did not say that.
brandon straka
you have... Well you're making me feel like I'm having a blackout. I feel like I saw that.
tim pool
There is a meme video from a 4chan post of Joe Biden saying your parents will be glad you're
dead and they will bury you under your born name. Matt Walsh said you have destroyed, you have
removed whatever it is that made you masculine but you have not gained a commensurate amount
of femininity. All right, hang on.
brandon straka
Even if I'm wrong, just hang on a sec.
You're saying he did not say, make some comment about you'll kill yourself and when you're gone, your parents will be secretly glad that you're gone because they'll be relieved of the burden that you caused them and the shame.
tim pool
He never said that.
brandon straka
I'm telling you, I remember it in my soul.
unidentified
Matt Walsh, did you watch a deepfake?
hannah claire brimelow
We've talked about that before, like what if, because that script is like a 4chan post.
tim pool
It's a 4chan script.
hannah claire brimelow
And I heard it, the Joe Biden one.
And so like, it would be interesting, because I haven't been on the show where I've been like, the deepfakes are terrifying.
unidentified
If you have watched a deepfake, Matt Walsh.
brandon straka
You're really sure he didn't say that?
tim pool
I watched Matt Walsh's show.
brandon straka
But I watched it.
tim pool
That's why he said, he said you are eerie and you are off-putting and people will look at you and see you as something pitiable.
brandon straka
All right, I'll watch it again.
tim pool
That is the extent that we're calling mean.
hannah claire brimelow
Also, I really hope you can find this video.
I'm sorry to cut you off.
brandon straka
Yeah, I had so many opinions on this topic and now I've lost all my confidence because I feel like I fell for a Nigerian scam or something.
hannah claire brimelow
What if you did?
What if this is the deepfakes?
This is what I'm saying.
tim pool
Let me pull up the video.
We played it on this show.
brandon straka
You did?
Yeah.
I'm seriously worried about my mental health right now because I feel like I remember this.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, if you can hear in his voice, he's got a distinct voice.
matt walsh
Dylan, if that is the most attractive you will ever look, then I don't even want to imagine what you'll look like when you're at your ugliest.
You do not pass as an attractive woman or as a woman at all.
Even with 50 pounds of makeup and plastic surgery and clever lighting tricks, even then you still cannot escape what you really are and what you will always be.
You have successfully shed Whatever parts of you were masculine, perhaps, at least on the surface, nobody would ever describe you as masculine or manly, so you've got that going.
But your femininity quotient has not increased at a rate commensurate with the loss of your masculinity.
You may not be masculine, but you also aren't feminine.
Instead, you are weird and artificial.
You are manufactured and lifeless.
You are unearthly.
And eerie.
You are like some kind of human deepfake.
That's what you are.
You are a man deprived of all the best qualities of men, but without any of the best qualities of women.
Even your personality is contrived.
Everything about you is fake.
Nothing about you rings true.
Nobody buys the act.
You'll never be accepted as a woman by anyone.
Never by anyone.
Even the people who pretend to accept you as a woman are only pretending because they're afraid of being lectured if they don't.
Or because they want to use you as a platform to virtue signal.
But everyone who looks at you will see something pitiable and bizarre, something utterly unfeminine in every way.
You will never be able to actually have the identity that you're trying to appropriate, nor will you ever be able to fully escape the identity that you're fleeing.
The best you can hope for is some kind of limbo, the worst of all worlds.
And yet, even in that limbo state, you will still be a man.
Just not one that any of us can respect or take seriously.
But other than that, champ, you're doing great.
tim pool
So that, that, he didn't raise his voice.
brandon straka
Did it begin there?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
brandon straka
There was nothing before that.
tim pool
That's it.
That's the clip.
A heartfelt message.
I don't know what I'm going through.
It's got 4.4 million views.
hannah claire brimelow
I swear you watched a deepfake.
tim pool
You watched a deepfake, bro.
Because what you described is a famous meme and they took a Joe Biden deep video and they put that meme with a deepfake voice and made him say that.
brandon straka
And what did Joe Biden say?
tim pool
So Joe Biden said nothing.
Someone wrote this long post that was very, very harsh and nasty towards trans people saying, you will kill yourself and your parents will, when they bury you, they will use your given name.
And a thousand years later, when they dig up your body, they will find a skeleton that is distinguishably male or discernibly male.
brandon straka
Yes, that was it.
tim pool
That's a meme.
hannah claire brimelow
It's a 4chan post.
unidentified
That's like a famous 4chan post.
hannah claire brimelow
I want you to find this video now, because I kind of believe that someone would take Matt Walsh into it.
Where did you see this?
brandon straka
I don't know, but I remember I saw it and I thought it was really awful.
It definitely made me feel a certain kind of way about him.
hannah claire brimelow
But wouldn't this be interesting if it's like exactly what we thought was gonna happen with deepfakes?
Like they are making people, they're using all these headlines to then say awful person said terrible thing and then if you do happen to stumble across a video there's a chance that it's not even real.
brandon straka
I feel like I'm like having that moment again like in 2017 when I realized that Trump didn't mock the disabled reporter.
I'm like oh my god that didn't happen?
phil labonte
People wonder why everyone Well why there's so many so much hatred towards Donald Trump and the quote-unquote the plurals because people misremember things constantly and when you are told things over and over or you're told this is how you should feel over and over
You can't help but have that rub off on you.
brandon straka
But in this case, I'm not misremembering.
I'm telling you, I saw it.
hannah claire brimelow
What if you really watched this deepfake video, which is like a step above misremembering?
It always bothers me when you get these articles where someone is like... The Hollywood Reporter had one we talked about on Pop Culture Crisis the other day.
Roseanne Barr had some tweets that were bad and that's why she got kicked off her show or whatever.
And they don't link to the tweets anywhere, the screenshots of the tweets aren't embedded in the article because I guess they're too terrible to say, which, you know, while spicy, like, I don't think that they were impossible to print.
phil labonte
They were barely spicy!
She made a mistake about her!
hannah claire brimelow
Right, which makes me think that they wanted to have this person Take all the heat and now they are not willing, number one, to do due diligence and try and at least find whatever these offensive comments are to say like, look for yourself, see how bad they are, which I guess they weren't bad enough.
phil labonte
Correct.
hannah claire brimelow
And then on top of that, you know, now they can just recycle, oh, well, this article or this outlet also said that she said that thing and this one too.
And so that's what's happening with Matt Walsh.
If there is a deepfake video, I would, I don't even know, that would be hilarious because it's exactly what I have been afraid of with deepfakes this whole time.
unidentified
Yep.
phil labonte
Bizarre.
tim pool
Yep.
But anyway, to the point, we have this ongoing debate now about whether or not we're being too mean, and it's just, it's very disheartening to see Antifa firebomb a government facility, and then these moderate types, these disaffected liberals are like, how dare Matt Walsh call someone unearthly?
Unearthly?
That is a shockingly academic insult.
phil labonte
Oh, I can't.
tim pool
Well, I never.
I'm like, really?
That's it?
Come on.
brandon straka
Do you have an opinion, though, about Dylan Mulvaney?
Is that the name?
tim pool
Oh, absolutely.
I don't think Dylan's trans.
brandon straka
What?
tim pool
Yeah, I don't think Dylan's trans.
brandon straka
I can't have my mind blown this many times in one night.
tim pool
I'm right.
I'm completely right.
brandon straka
What do you mean?
tim pool
I'm 100% right.
brandon straka
What's happening?
hannah claire brimelow
Wait, what's your opinion?
I want to know that first.
brandon straka
Well, I didn't expect the conversation to go this direction, but all I was going to say is that when I started first seeing Dylan Mulvaney videos, I thought he or she was really annoying.
I mean trans or not, I just thought this is an obnoxious person.
But the conclusion of this is that I saw Dylan make a video basically addressing conservative People in the conservative movement who object to who she is.
I found it very compelling.
I was like, I actually like this person.
tim pool
Let me ask you something.
How many women do you know go hiking in high heels?
Well, it's an obvious question, right?
brandon straka
Right.
tim pool
No, because that's a ridiculous caricature of a woman to wear high heels in the woods.
How many trans people do you know go hiking in the woods?
Me? Just one, Dylan Mulvaney.
Because it's not a real thing.
It's a character being played.
Now, some people have argued to me that, no, no, Dylan's trans, like, you know,
Dylan just got facial surgery.
And I'm like, Madonna got facial surgery.
Celebrities get surgery to be on TV all the time.
Someone who is chasing after internet clout will certainly get surgery if it gives them more internet clout.
So I view Dylan as, you know, maybe Dylan will say that they're trans and say it Passionately.
But what I believe is, and I'm not a doctor, I'm not a psychologist or psychiatrist or anything like that, but looking at Dylan, I see a person who is a social media clout chaser, who started getting traction for this persona, decided to do, look, trans videos and this kind of stuff gets a lot of traffic, Dylan embraces it, boom.
Views skyrocket.
Celebrity skyrocket.
Q rating.
You know what Q rating is?
The celebrity rating that they give you in Hollywood?
Skyrockets.
Getting to meet the president all through the roof.
And guess what?
You can't stop now.
You gotta keep one-upping the game if you wanna keep getting the views, the attention, the sponsorships.
And this is what we're seeing with Dylan Mulvaney.
That's why Dylan wears high heels in the woods.
Not because it's something women actually do, but because he has to keep exaggerating and one-upping the psychosis of the character.
I talk about this all the time.
When they first started writing about Donald Trump in 2015, they said, Trump made a racist statement.
They get a million views.
The next day, they write the same article.
Oh, Trump made another racist statement.
Nobody cares.
We know, we know.
Well, Trump made the most racist statement.
Really?
The most?
What's this?
Another million views.
They have to keep escalating the story in order to maintain your attention.
Otherwise, people get bored and they say, eh, who cares?
I already know this is happening.
I'm done with it.
Dylan Mulvaney is a perfect example of this.
The content has to get crazier and crazier, otherwise people lose interest.
So if Dylan just came up and did doing videos being like, hey guys, it's me again, I'm a girl, people would be like, so what?
This is boring.
So what happens?
Well, Dylan says that they're a girl, then they go out, then they dress up like in a dress, they keep doing things to attract attention, which culminates in I'm in the woods in hiking heels, frolicking about.
And it makes no sense.
And then, surgery.
brandon straka
But wouldn't that be true whether the character was trans or not?
Like, if you're a social media influencer who creates a character and your character is your claim to fame, and your character is an outrageous character and that's what you do, I mean, why is it not possible that Dylan is trans and has created a character that now has to continually be upped?
tim pool
Well, I'll put it this way.
Dylan is not gender dysphoric.
Because the people that I know and have spoken with who have explained gender dysphoria, and there are many academics, scientists, many who have pushed against the groomers, the weirdos, the social media stuff, and the autogynephilia stuff, like the NCAA swimmer, they point out that people with dysphoria don't like being seen that way.
It triggers their dysphoria.
So to have someone like Dylan intentionally going on camera and doing these things It's like at odds with what gender dysphoria usually is.
phil labonte
You're saying when someone has gender dysphoria and they feel like they're not passing, that triggers their dysphoria?
tim pool
Something like that.
I don't want to call anybody out and get anyone's personal business by naming somebody, but we've spoken with some trans individuals who said this kind of behavior would be triggering dysphoria and creating anxiety and panic.
Going out to millions upon millions of people in this way would be very triggering.
Dylan's doing something else.
And I just think it's this simple.
Look, for all I know, fine, Dylan's trans.
But this idea of hiking heels is not a component of a female or womanly identity.
It doesn't exist.
It's a cartoon.
hannah claire brimelow
I've never had hiking heels in my life.
tim pool
This is the way I describe it.
Imagine if someone put on blackface and started running around screaming about eating fried chicken.
That's what Dylan is doing with hiking heels in the woods.
It is a mockery and caricature of not just women, but also trans women.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, I think that's why the Barbie pouch comment got so many people going like, what?
I don't know any women who use that term.
tim pool
Or behave in this way.
Run around in the woods in high heels, you'll break your ankle.
But also, it's, for regular, for your average trans person who is trying to just live and
get by and feel good about themselves, Dylan is creating this perspective of trans people
that is psychotic.
And the hiking heels is the perfect example, not to mention the Barbie pouch, the giving tampons to women in bathrooms.
That is outrageous and it's going to create, and we see it.
We see it with people like Matt Walsh, like I like Matt Walsh.
But for Matt Walsh to act like Dylan Mulvaney represents trans people is the problem with Dylan Mulvaney, not Matt Walsh.
Matt Walsh doesn't know better.
He sees this, he sees it's propped up, he sees the activists defending, and he says, this is wrong.
And I say, Matt, you are correct, but that's not what trans people are.
hannah claire brimelow
I've never been totally, I've never totally understood why trans culture always has like more and more I feel like it intersects with drag culture which drag culture wasn't necessarily transgender in and of itself from my understanding of it.
I mean it's interesting to me that you know women my age, women younger than me are really interested in like the clean girl aesthetic right?
phil labonte
Minimal makeup and you know they wear their hair natural and stuff like that and like on the other hand if you are transgender suddenly you're wearing extremely high heels and you have really long nails and you have you know it's not all women don't wear makeup and all trans people do wear makeup but it's just it seems like there is an aesthetic nature that doesn't feel genuine it feels like you have to present this way to affirm that you are this identity it's like the more the more the trans person desires to be in the public eye the more they tend to uh be a caricature of what femininity is or or uh you know
More like the ideal of femininity.
And if someone is looking to just pass and live their life, if they're like what you would consider a normal trans person that doesn't have a job, whether in the public eye they're just trans and they work their normal job or whatever, then they don't need to have like the, and this is just my impression, but then it seems like they don't need to have like the I'm a woman turned up to ten.
They can be like, you know, just kind of be a little more It's ironic because these are the gender as a societal construct people.
tim pool
I think Dylan is doing things to intentionally court controversy and using trans as the vehicle to court controversy because I guess the point I'm trying to make is The people that we talk to on this show, friends of the show, and people we've interviewed who are trans, are like, we don't want to draw that kind of scrutiny and attention to ourselves in that way.
Why would we?
It's like, scary, it's dangerous.
Dylan's intentionally doing weird things.
Making tampon videos?
What is it?
Someone super chatted, normalize the bulge?
Like, these are shockingly weird things that trans people don't do.
brandon straka
I forgot about that.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
tim pool
So I'm like, listen, Dylan should not be held up as an example of what transgender people are like, because it's not true.
I do not think, I think Dylan has found a vehicle to get attention, and Dylan is probably a narcissistic sociopath who is trying to get attention, likes, and views, and fame, and that's it.
And just like any other person, like Madonna, they will get plastic surgery to alter their appearance to fit the mold of what gets them attention.
hannah claire brimelow
To stay relevant.
phil labonte
Because if you look at the way Dylan behaves, you're right.
And then you look at the, there's, you know, the trans people, the trans woman that works at Media Matters, she's purely politics, right?
She's purely politically trans, like she's trans or whatever, but it's all about the politics.
It's not about like any of the glamour, glitzy, blah, blah, blah.
She, you know, she does Dress like a woman and do, you know, do her makeup as if she was in the public eye.
But it's not like the whole glamour thing that that Dylan seems to be going for.
So I think that you can really pick out.
Not really, but I feel like there are some trans people that you can pick out what the motivating factor is, you know, whether it be politically motivated for it, because there are people that are trans because they're politically motivated.
tim pool
One day, Dylan's viewership is going to start to diminish, because you can only go so far with any kind of content or show.
Think about how TV shows used to be.
How many seasons would you get before getting cancelled?
What was that, um, what was that, Parker Lewis Can't Lose, we had Cora Nemec hanging out, and that's like, that show apparently was a big deal and people are big fans of it, but it got what, three seasons?
So back in the day, you might be on top for a couple years, then your show is gone.
Some shows last a little bit longer, maybe you'll get seven years, and then it's gone.
Hugh Laurie was huge when House was on TV, the ratings were through the roof and the ratings started going down and then the show disappears.
This, this is no different.
Attention cannot remain on somebody forever.
You will not be on top of the mountain forever.
You know, the Young Turks used to be the biggest independent media.
Alex Jones was, but he got knocked down for another- for other reasons, censorship.
But the Young Turks have dwindled dramatically, and their viewership has tanked from where it used to be back in the day.
Same is true for most YouTubers.
There will come a time where Dylan Mulvaney will start losing viewership, and you will then see Dylan start making depressed videos, being like, I'm a failure, and things like this.
Because the average person ta- this is true.
You'll notice this right now.
There was a post I saw on Instagram from Lex Fridman and he said something like, today I felt like a failure.
So many people do sometimes and I wanted to let you know that, you know, we all go through this or whatever.
Tons of comments were saying things like, I've been feeling that too.
It's really funny.
How many influencers, how many social media personalities seem to go through an existential crisis at the exact same time?
And you know what that time coincides with?
Ratings dips in the beginning of any year, particularly political people or cultural individuals who are doing cultural politics in news after an election, when viewership tanks.
And I've been doing this for a decade.
And when I started doing it, I met Luke Rudkowski, who had been doing it for five years before that.
And first thing he said to me was, At the beginning of every year, views drop when you're in this space.
And it's like, oh wow.
So for me, it's just a normal cycle, and then come August, October, views start going up.
No surprise though, you see so many people in the beginning of the year being like, I'm feeling down, I'm having a crisis, an existential crisis, oh, woe is me, and things like that.
Well, it coincides often with a decrease in their viewership because they're feeling like, I can't get enough traffic, it must be something wrong with me.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
That's going to happen to people like Dylan.
It's going to happen to people like Jazz Jennings and Kim Petras.
These people who are put in the spotlight for these reasons.
It's not going to last forever.
And then it's going to be really bad.
Because for a child star, or for any personality, you feel like you touch the clouds and then it gets pulled away from you.
That's why a lot of people get mad.
But what if you get surgery?
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
You surgically graft wings to your back so you can fly as high as possible to touch the clouds, and then finally when you fall back down to Earth, everyone looks at you like some kind of, you know, disfigured or whatever.
phil labonte
That's a problem in the entertainment world because of people that turn to substance abuse when the love dries up or whatever.
So I imagine that you're going to see a massive, massive wave of suicides.
serious mental illness problems with trans people that regret transitioning and stuff like that.
I feel like this is on par with medical lysenkoism in the Soviet Union, you know, or with lysenkoism in the Soviet Union.
In that context, it was with farming and agriculture, but this is like the medical version of it, where they're just using the ideology to push an agenda, and you've got people that are gonna be just absolutely destroyed later in their lives.
brandon straka
Well, they're doing it when they're really young.
phil labonte
Yeah.
Body count's gonna be, yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
They're doing it when they're young, and especially with doma-mania, I think it's worth acknowledging that so much of this is happening publicly on social media that drives your dopamine, right?
So if you are feeling alone or sad, and you get validation for doing anything, right?
Like, they'd say with, like, girls who get famous on YouTube for being, like, mommy vloggers, and then after they have a kid, there's, like, a ratings drop, so they have another kid, and then, like, people come back, and they're excited.
unidentified
Is that true?
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I mean, they get accused of this.
I've never asked one personally if that's what they do, but there's like an idea that, like, you get people who get famous for doing something, and so they'll do it again, or they'll adopt a baby, or they'll announce they're engaged.
They'll do something to make them exciting again.
tim pool
What can someone like Dylan Mulvaney do after they already did their surgery video?
Dylan Mulvaney comes out and says, I got surgery reveal, and then it gets a million views, but you can't do it twice?
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, but now it's the other aspects of life, right?
Does Dylan Mulvaney get married?
Does Dylan Mulvaney have children?
Like, this will be an ongoing thing, but the, to me, one of the biggest dangers is that your entire life is tied, like, your income as well as your sense of self is tied to the internet, right?
You are selling your private inner experience to what get to go to an award show have someone put you in a designer dress for the night like at the end of the day you will naturally become less popular and then what does that do to your mental health what what do you do when you've done you've pulled out all the stops and you've gotten all the surgeries and you've had the extra content baby or whatever like what do you do when
When there's nothing left to do.
You have to have, with grace, the ability to detach.
And because social media is addictive in its nature, you will always be searching for that new dopamine.
brandon straka
Yeah, and it becomes your identity, I think, for a lot of people, too.
But I still say that everything that we're saying applies to anybody, trans or not.
tim pool
Of course.
brandon straka
I mean, it applies to Paris Hilton.
That's my point.
tim pool
Madonna just got plastic surgery and everybody made fun of Madonna.
Dylan Mulvaney got plastic surgery and I don't think it's because Dylan Mulvaney is trans.
I think it's because Dylan Mulvaney is trying to adapt to be something that will attract attention and generate likes and get views and make money.
Build influence.
Hey look, how many people wish they could find the ticket to sit down with the president?
And some people are sociopathic and will do literally anything.
If they're told, this is what you have to do, they'll say, okay, I'll do it.
And there you go.
That's Dylan Mulvaney.
hannah claire brimelow
Madonna is a good example too.
She did that video on, I guess a TikTok being like, if I miss, I'm gay.
And she threw a pair of underwear, like way far away from a trash can or something and then never addressed it.
And for like a couple of days, there was this buzz being like, is Madonna coming out?
Like what's happening there?
She never addressed it again.
So I guess she just wanted the views.
unidentified
Of course.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean exactly so this seems like we are always we are slaves to the social media trends and the media headlines which makes it more interesting that there are so many journalists like I said before who are actually activists who want to control narrative and therefore they're like if you get into their good graces your name will stay in the headlines right if you do what they want you to do then you get the attention you're craving but it's not even just craving like you are addicted to it.
brandon straka
I would just like to say that the LGBT thing is not a hot ticket if you're a conservative.
hannah claire brimelow
Are you going to advise Madonna?
brandon straka
Well, I'm just saying it has not skyrocketed my career in any way, shape, or form.
And in fact, I am deeply, deeply hated by the LGBT community.
tim pool
Not to mention there are a bunch of conservatives on Twitter even right now saying being gay is wrong and they don't accept it and it should be rejected and things like that.
So it's not like the Republican Party is unified in support of gay rights.
brandon straka
Right.
tim pool
So this is interesting about the modern culture war and when the left says people like you are conservatives or whatever or people like me are far right or whatever, they really have no definition of what that is other than you are not in their cult.
unidentified
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
Can I ask you a question?
brandon straka
Yeah, anything.
hannah claire brimelow
Okay, do you feel like as A member of the LGBTQ community.
Transgenderism.
Would you drop the T from the acronym?
That's what I want to ask.
Like, do you think as a gender identity it should be included in the same community group as sexual orientation?
brandon straka
Okay, so I...
I'm probably going to get in hot water for saying this, but I have always been, I'd say, an advocate for what I consider to be legitimate transgender people.
People with gender dysphoria who actually transition from male to female, female to male.
My personal policy is I have no trouble Using the pronouns of some if a male becomes a female a female becomes a male I'll do she'll do it.
I don't care.
I just I have a problem with the spectrum I will not do they them pronouns.
I won't do it.
I don't I will not accept Non-binary ism as a legitimate thing.
I will not accept it Quinn genderqueer gender fluid as a legitimate thing.
I just want I believe it's a You know an identity That somebody might just feel like you know, that's but it's it's not a real thing and I'm not gonna participate in it It's become harder and harder for me to defend the transgender community as the transgender community has become more and more absurd and caricature ish and insane and What have you like a couple of years ago?
there were other gay conservatives that we were kind of debating and they were saying like we really want to drop the tea off of this and I was like come on you guys like It's like, why create this?
Because there are transgender people in the world who, like you were kind of saying earlier, just want to live their lives and be left alone.
I don't want to participate in hurting those people.
And I feel like it just hurts people to be like, you're not a part of it.
You used to be, but now you're not.
But it's getting harder and harder.
It really is.
I mean, even for like the people that I consider to be legitimately transgender, because they're so lost in this mess at this point.
I'm sorry, you just wanted an answer to your question.
hannah claire brimelow
No, this is great.
brandon straka
I hate the Q. Don't accept the Q.
100% let's cut the Q off and get rid of it.
unidentified
1000%.
brandon straka
I guess I'm not there yet with the T. I accept the argument that it's a totally different thing.
A person's gender identity is not the same thing as their sexual orientation.
I accept that.
I guess the reason why for me it was never really like a thing that I felt the need to
make a clear line of delineation is that I think that most or many gay people have experienced
some form of gender dysphoria in their life.
I did.
I mean, when I was a little boy and I didn't understand complex human sexuality, for me,
the feelings that I was experiencing as a little boy, it was easier to accept those
feelings in terms of gender.
So I knew I was a little boy who had crushes on little boys.
I knew that I liked things that little girls liked.
I would have been much happier playing with the girls than roughing it up with the boys and fighting and things like that.
I would have rather been inside playing with Barbies.
And so I kind of identify with what that feels like to feel like you're a boy who identifies with girls.
And then at a certain point I did grow out of it and I probably at puberty and then I realized that I was a gay guy, a gay man.
But I guess the point is that I can identify with that feeling enough that I don't feel the need to ostracize people who are like that.
I feel like some people don't grow out of that.
And for them, a gender transition is the right answer to feel like they are legitimately who they are.
And I guess I just don't see the need to ostracize those people from the community because I sort of understand, I can relate to that feeling.
tim pool
It sounds like if you were a little kid today, you would end up getting the hormone blockers and the surgery and stuff.
brandon straka
Yeah, probably.
tim pool
They put you through it.
brandon straka
I mean, if I had had, you know, parents and teachers who Wanted to embrace what I was going through and say, you know, we we we feel like you know, we want to Validate what you're feeling.
tim pool
Yeah, things could have gone horribly wrong It's crazy because it's actually a very very fundamentalist view of how to deal with the issue of gender dysphoria So they do in Iran in Iran if you're a gay man, they they give you a forced sex change operation That's my understanding.
And so what's happening now is really interesting because they're going to little kids who like Social things. Hey, look boys can play with dolls girls can
play football, right? That's no big deal Well, not anymore. If you're a little girl who wants to
play football They will tell you you are trans and you need the surgery
as a really weird thing I can't you just be a woman who plays football. I don't
brandon straka
know. What's exactly well And that was what I was very poorly articulating a moment
ago when I was talking about like that the identity quotient of being non-binary or gender-fluid
I mean, I was a kid of the 80s, and in the 80s we had Boy George, you know, we had Billy Idol, we had all those hair bands and all the people wearing makeup, and it was just sort of an expression.
That's the word I think I was looking for.
It was an expression, not an identity.
And everyone accepted that expression.
I mean, I'm sure there were some people who didn't You know, had an issue with Boy George or whatever, but for the most part people, like, they didn't really care.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
brandon straka
But now people are like, oh, Boy George, you need to be trans.
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
You said this before that they, the party that is advocating for, you know, transition people earlier and earlier are the same party that's saying, like, don't believe gender stereotypes and give your daughters Tonka trucks and whatever else.
Except if your son reaches for a Barbie, then maybe you should be on alert for perhaps they're Puberty balkers.
Maybe your son socially likes to hang out with girls, and who knows why that is?
They're young.
Like you said, I think there's so much rush to say, we're going to make these kids change and identify because we're trying to protect them, we're trying to help them, and I want to believe that's honorable, but it has some intense consequences for something that you wouldn't do in other circumstances, right?
brandon straka
But here's where I separate from from some people on the right on this issue because I the left has gone way too far way way way too far and so I do understand that there is a bit of I would say an overcorrection on the right but I hear some people on the right say you know Like, no children are transgender and no child is born in the wrong body.
And I'm like, well then where did all these transgender adults come from?
I mean, we definitely know that there are people in the world who believe that their gender transition was the right choice for them and that they finally feel like who they authentically are after they transition.
Those people were children at one point.
I'm not saying that you should transition a child, but I'm saying...
Transgender adults were once transgender children, so it really kind of can't be true.
tim pool
You know that male grip strength has dropped by what, like 80, 70% since World War II?
I think the embracing of plastics.
Probably resulted in a rapid decline in testosterone and a massive disruption of the human endocrine system resulting in weak and effeminate males and masculinized females.
So one of the reasons I think we may be seeing this big burst is the expansive use of plastics which we use for all of our food and then we eat it.
Women get pregnant and then eat plastics which disrupt the endocrine systems of the babies.
There were some studies that We've talked about on the show before, a birth control that women were taking and then when they got pregnant later, it would masculinize the babies and they tracked the women who got pregnant and found that like an overwhelming majority of their daughters were lesbians.
Looking at a study like that, I'm like, there's probably a correlation between the things we are putting in our bodies that we know are endocrine disruptors and the expansive increase in the LGBTQ community.
brandon straka
Well, that and predatory teachers.
tim pool
I do think endocrine disruptors are playing a huge role.
that they shouldn't be teaching them, but I do think endocrine disruptors are playing a huge role.
And the problem is, when a human being is affected in this way,
and then they become an adult who can vote, they're They vote in favor of the way they've been affected.
So if there is something that is damaging and poisonous to us, and then people vote to affirm that thing, well, you're gonna get more of it.
Could you imagine if people were voting to affirm mesothelioma like it was a good thing and exposing kids to asbestos, pulverized asbestos, so that we could explain?
You know, so what's the big deal?
Maybe they'll get mesothelioma too.
It's like, look, if there's an environmental factor that's causing harm to people and creating depression and anxiety, we don't want to affirm that.
We want to stop it and figure out what's causing it.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
I think two big components.
One, the social component, obviously we're talking about, but I do think that phthalates, PCBs, et cetera, chemicals in the water and the food are causing a lot of it as well.
brandon straka
So in that scenario then, you believe that a good portion of these people are actually experiencing gender dysphoria?
tim pool
Yeah, we've had this discussion.
That's why it's so funny when these cultists lie about what I believe.
And say, like, denying the existence of trans people, and I'm like, I'm the one who's actually argued to many of these activists, like, with James Lindsay, for instance, saying, no, I think some kids are trans.
I think there are kids who were born to mothers who were taking some kind of medication or sensitive to certain phthalates, PCBs, what is it, polychloral biphenyls or whatever.
And thus, the child in the womb, their endocrine system got derupted in utero and in development, and then this kid is born with a more feminized brain and mental state, or endocrine system, and a masculine body, and that's going to create dysphoria.
That makes perfect sense.
I don't understand.
And it's a societal problem.
It's a poison that we've introduced into our food supply that we need to deal with.
I don't understand why it has to be one or the other or absolute, a zero-sum game.
So there are people like, no, no kid feels this way.
It's not possible.
And I'm like, I think a lot of little girls are being socially manipulated.
And it's because of Instagram and other social media platforms that they're feeling this pressure to fit in.
So they're saying things they don't understand.
Because I've heard so many stories from parents who are like, my daughter said that they were gay or pan or lesbian.
And they're like, my nine-year-old daughter didn't even know what those words meant.
But then you're actually going to get Genuinely, in my opinion, more young boys and girls who are legitimately trans and experiencing dysphoria.
That doesn't mean the treatment is surgery, sterilization, or puberty blockers.
I don't know what the treatment is, but I certainly think there may be a physiological effect.
It's not just social.
brandon straka
And it may pass for a lot of people.
tim pool
Well, we know that depending on the studies you look at, it's from like 65 to 90 some odd percent that children desist.
And once they hit puberty, they stop having these feelings.
So if that's the case, we should absolutely lean in that direction.
Like, let's not use puberty blockers because most of these kids are going to be totally fine once they pass puberty.
Why create more stress and anxiety for them?
phil labonte
It's a trolley problem.
tim pool
In what way?
phil labonte
Because if you, the argument that they make on the left is, oh, if we don't get kids to transition, they're gonna kill themselves.
But if you transition kids that don't need to be transitioned, and you do it en masse because of social contagion, you're gonna end up transitioning kids, you're gonna end up transitioning way more people than you need, and you're gonna end up having more people with ruined lives than if you don't transition the few actual people that are trans that after puberty end up being actually trans.
The high probability is that most people that feel like they're trans in puberty, once they go through puberty, it desists and stops.
That's the most likely course of action.
That's most likely what's going to happen.
So if you push everybody that has any kind of gender dysphoria into transitioning, you're going to end up hurting a lot more people than you help.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, especially if puberty, like, the process of going through puberty is really what changed.
I mean, you mentioned that, like, some of your dysphoria changed when you went through puberty.
If the experience of the hormonal changes of puberty, in some ways, you know, is the antidote to some of the discomfort and dysphoria that people feel, preventing them from going through it is...
Sort of a problem in that case.
brandon straka
Well, yeah, and I just think that like I was saying before when you're very very little You're not able to understand things like complex human sexuality You know you you see things in terms of boy and girl mommy and daddy and things like that and when you're having these feelings that you know your your innate kind of behavior the things you're drawn to are are more like mommy than daddy or whatever, then that makes
you kind of feel like, well, maybe I'm supposed to be a girl. Maybe I want to be a girl.
That's what I like.
But then as you start to get older and you start to understand, well, you can be a boy and sort of
have these sides of yourself that are maybe not like the other boys, but then the other sides,
you are more like the other boys. And, you know, it's just, it's too much for a little kid to
phil labonte
When you have to learn, like, when you're born, you have to learn object permanency.
Like, that's how, how, you know, complete, you have to learn literally everything.
hannah claire brimelow
How building blocks we are.
phil labonte
Yeah, exactly.
It's like, so the idea of a trans child is, or a trans baby, or like, you know, like, it's like, come on, I can't, You see you don't even see faces you see blobs for the first like three months or whatever when you're actually born So well, and it's hard to think that these kids were you know, let's say four five six their parents are talking about it They say oh I like You know, I like playing soccer and I don't want to
hannah claire brimelow
Exactly.
or whatever it is, and they start saying, oh, maybe my child is transgender.
That becomes the conversation in their home, and they know that they are receiving a lot of attention.
Not that they are going out of their way, but that's being a kid, right?
Looking for attention, looking for affirmation from your parents.
If your parents are saying, like, it's something we talk to you a lot about,
and maybe you're going to see a specific doctor or else, it gets hard not to then accidentally
reinforce this thought, like you are transgender, and make it concrete, before they are able to understand
how complex the spectrum of human emotions are, understanding gender, understanding sexuality.
It's a lot to put on a child, and I feel like it's too easy to let it run away,
even for parents who are trying their best to be there for their children.
phil labonte
Yeah in the in the like you said about you know the way the children responded in the 80s there was a lot or maybe it was late late 80s or whatever there was a lot of uh uh hysteria about children being molested right and it wasn't going on what was happening was children We're talking, or parents were talking to their kids, or authority figures were talking to kids that could barely understand what they were being asked.
But they understood that if they answered in the affirmative, the parents and the adults seemed to get excited.
So when you're asking a kid, hey, did you get touched?
Did they touch you in a place they're not supposed to?
Whatever.
Children that barely understand what's going on, they realize that they, but they, they couldn't understand the context, but they could understand that when they answered in the affirmative, that the people around them lit up and it's like, Oh, I'm supposed to answer this way.
And that's what you're teaching children, even though they don't understand the words that you're teaching.
There's because there's so much more to communication than just the words that you're saying, you know?
So to your point.
hannah claire brimelow
No, it's hard.
I think of all the videos of moms being like, my daughter said that she loves this person and they're, it's like a, you know, feminist icon or whatever.
And you want to be like, but what do they know?
What do they know about this person?
If they love her hairstyle and they think she's great, cool.
Like they're, they're a little kid.
They're allowed to have their interests, of course.
But you know, or if you're saying that like on some deep intellectual child, you're on some deep intellectual level, your child understands like feminist theory.
Like, I think, I think you're wrong.
I don't think that's true.
tim pool
All right, let's go to Super Chats!
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It has been many rotations, revolutions around the sun, and so I really do appreciate all the support and all of you who are members at TimCast.com.
If you would like to support me or get me a gift for my birthday, I ask only that you become a member at TimCast.com, and in exchange, I will give you access to exclusive members-only segments, which we will have tonight.
At around 10, 10 p.m., we will go live on the front page of the website.
You click that link.
Members-only livestream just for you guys.
And the memberships, I gotta be honest, too.
You're noticing a lot of layoffs in the tech sector?
Yo, the revenue drop is hitting everybody, and ad rates are dropping rather significantly.
You'll notice that we didn't do any ads last month, and I think we have a couple this month, but less than we normally do.
And I think that's one of the reasons why I don't want sponsors to be our customers, corporations.
I want members to be.
So we rely on you as members to keep the boat afloat.
If you like the work we do, become a member and that's what makes all of this keep running and all of our expansion programs and investment opportunities, everything we're trying to do.
The coffee shop is currently in the works.
We're going to start doing this Investment or grant program where once a month we give 10 grand to somebody who's going to be doing some kind of cultural endeavor.
That's quite literally, for those of you who are members, when you buy a membership at Timcast, I'm literally taking $10,000 of that and then giving it back to somebody who's going to be doing something that helps expand the culture and win the culture war.
Because I legit mean it when I say, I don't care about big boats or mansions or whatever.
I want to do stuff that wins the culture war and makes the world a better place.
So I'm really excited for that.
We were talking with Kash Patel and we're trying to figure out the best way to do it.
Maybe I'll just write a check to some random person like, oh hey, it's a cool project you're doing.
But we want to do it in some kind of formal way and then make a show where we can promote the cultural endeavors of the individual.
So if you want to help us with all the weird stuff we're doing, become a member.
brandon straka
Can I apply for that for my legal fees?
tim pool
Well, the idea is like, to win a culture war, you need culture.
You need someone making music, making, painting pictures, making art, doing magic or whatever, making cartoons.
Like if someone's going to do a comedy cartoon show or sketch comedy, like that's the kind of stuff we need more of.
If we're going to win a culture war, you need it.
brandon straka
Can I tell you something we're doing?
Can I tell your audience about it?
Yeah.
So people may remember in 2018 I launched Walk Away Campaign, which is a testimonial campaign.
People were making videos telling their stories about walking away from the Democratic Party.
We grew to over 510,000 people in the Facebook group and they had literally tens of thousands of videos and written testimonials on Facebook, pulled the plug, banned us, all the content was gone.
Deeply disturbing and sick.
So, I've been working for the last two years and my team's been working very hard to build our own social media platform to relaunch the walkaway movement.
It's called Walkaway Social.
It's amazing.
I really, really want people to get behind it and support it.
Totally free to use.
Always will be.
But it's available now in the Apple App Store.
It will be available for Android users in the Google Play Store, I'd say, by the end of the week.
And people can also sign up on the web at walkwaysocial.com.
But it's awesome.
I mean, we already have thousands of people joining.
We already have dozens of new walkaway videos that have started in just the last couple days since we launched.
And it's really cool.
And I think people are going to enjoy using it.
So I want to encourage people to get on walkaway social.
tim pool
Right on, let's read some Super Chats.
brandon straka
Thank you.
tim pool
SteelXWolf says, Hey Tim, you should pay attention to what may happen tomorrow at University of Buffalo.
Michael Knowles is going to speak, and it's getting pretty tense here.
Similar thing happened a few months back.
Shout out to Michael Knowles.
He's doing good work.
They're lying about what he said, of course.
He said he wants to see transgender ideology eradicated from public life.
He literally says the ideology is bad, blah blah blah, and they're trying to make it seem like he's calling for murder or something, which is just absolutely not true.
He's talking about gender ideology.
All right.
Ekamamnam's Jimbag says, the narrator on DeSantis' video sounds like they are straight out of South Park.
Did you guys see what happened with DeSantis today?
brandon straka
No.
tim pool
He did a presser exposing the book ban hoax, where he played a video showing what was in the books that have been banned.
It's not books, it's porn.
And the imagery was so, like, graphic that local news outlets turned their cameras off
and Twitter censored the video.
unidentified
He couldn't even show the news!
tim pool
The news was like, whoa, whoa, we can't put a picture of full-on, dude-on-dude intercourse.
Like, yo, some of the images in these books, I can't even describe.
Because it's like, you get censored.
YouTube will lose their minds if I explain what's in those books.
brandon straka
When the Florida Don't Say Gay lie began, I was totally on DeSantis' side and I was out there advocating for his bill and what they were doing.
Um, but, and I started getting reached out to by conservative parents and saying, you know, talking about some of these books that are in the schools.
And one person was saying to me, it's got images of this and this and this.
And I, you know, look, I'm a conservative, my audience is conservative, but every once in a while, somebody reaches out to you and you're like, okay, dude, calm down.
Like that's not happening.
And, um, and I kind of pushed back and I was like, you know, come on, that sounds pretty graphic.
And she was like, she started showing me pictures and she told me the name of the book.
So I ordered the book on Amazon and I was, I was like deeply ashamed that it had arrived at my house.
No, it wasn't that.
I'm trying to remember right now what it was called.
I own it, but it was, she, Shockingly graphic.
And I mean, they have the illustrated images of two men in bed together and two women in bed together and an image of a naked woman spreading her vagina.
unidentified
Self.
brandon straka
Self.
Over a, thank you, a mirror and stuff.
And I'm just like, this was like in an elementary school library.
tim pool
Yep.
brandon straka
Shocking.
tim pool
Yep.
brandon straka
I've become a pearl-clutching conservative.
hannah claire brimelow
That's shocking.
It must feel weird to get that at your house when you're like, I don't know what it is.
brandon straka
And I'm on federal probation.
I was like, great, this is the last thing.
A gay man on federal probation ordering child porn, essentially.
tim pool
Let's read some more.
We got this from Pat Meadows.
I could watch The View, but Chicken City is better.
I gotta say, no, to be fair though, the commentary on Chicken City is substantially more informational and entertaining and educational than The View.
You know, when you watch, when you go to chickencitylive.com and you watch Chicken City, you hear some profound stuff like, you know, and that is more, it's better for the psyche.
hannah claire brimelow
Better hens clucking than on The View.
tim pool
Well, the things you hear on The View are shocking and disturbing.
unidentified
At least with Chicken City, you can see chickens like, you know, I love Tim Dillon's line on The View that there are many intelligent women in America, but none of them are on The View.
tim pool
Well, one of the things we're planning on doing with the new studio space is creating some kind of morning show for women.
And it wasn't my idea, it was a woman's idea who asked me, like, why don't you do a show where, like, normal human females are allowed to talk about this stuff?
hannah claire brimelow
She's got your permission, that's what it's for.
tim pool
The view is so insulting to women and it makes them look bad.
And I'm like, oh yeah, that's great.
We'll do it.
You know, I don't know.
We'll put up a couch, a camera, and then we'll have some like, you know, moderate moms want to talk about issues in the morning, just do their thing.
And I'm like, that sounds fantastic.
It sounds like a really good, I think it'll make, it'll be a big show.
brandon straka
It's been tried before, but I don't think the chemistry's been right.
It hasn't come off yet.
I think you could do it, though.
tim pool
I mean, it's not gonna be me.
brandon straka
I'm just gonna... We're gonna get some of the... No, but you would be like the Barbara Walters of the situation.
tim pool
I wouldn't be on the show.
I've always wanted to do a show.
We'll just provide some funding for them to do the show.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
All right, Neglectful Sausage says, read the crying woman segment.
What is the core function of slavery?
The forced transfer of wealth from one group of people to another.
Excess calories equals more babies.
Goodly whites taxing, donating to Uganda and Peru.
Runaway inflation for 50 years.
Well, I don't quite understand what you mean, but I did a segment earlier.
There's a video going around of a woman crying.
She's 36 and she's like, I don't have time.
I can't have kids anymore.
I can't afford in vitro, I don't have a support system, it's too late, I can't have kids, blah blah blah.
And it's like, she's crying and she's saying, I feel so bad for her.
And I'm like, how many women are going to experience this in their 30s when they're like, holy crap, I was lied to.
Like, I really want to have kids and I can't.
It's too late or whatever.
That's, that's freaking me.
I wouldn't know.
I'm a guy.
You know, guys, you could be 80 and have kids.
It's weird.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
tim pool
But not, not women.
And so she's crying about it.
I feel bad.
hannah claire brimelow
I think there are men who don't take potentially having a family seriously and do miss their opportunity.
But yeah, physically, the clock doesn't run out for men the way it does for women.
phil labonte
It just runs out the ability to actually spend any time with the children.
unidentified
Right.
phil labonte
Like if you're 60.
hannah claire brimelow
Or find a partner to then bear children.
phil labonte
If you're 60 and you have kids, it's like you're, you're going to be, you know.
tim pool
If you're 60 and you're a billionaire, you're going to find a partner to have kids with.
brandon straka
But I think that what you're describing, I, I, I feel like that's, there's nowhere that's more true than in New York city.
I lived in New York for a very long time.
And I think of anywhere in the United States, New York city has lied to women more than anyone else, because there's very much this culture in New York of like, stay a kid as long as you want.
And I knew a lot of girls who became women in their thirties.
And all of a sudden it was like, Oh my God, I've, you know, I've been living this like sex in the city lifestyle.
And the clock is ticking and my time has kind of come and gone.
And then what do you do at that point?
It sneaks up on you.
Sneaking up on you.
37 tomorrow.
tim pool
37 tomorrow in a couple hours.
Technically, you know, if we want to break it down, I am literally 37 years old because a few hours don't really matter all that much, but my birthday is in a couple hours.
And that's true.
That's absolutely true.
I'm halfway there, and I don't got any kids.
But, uh, you know, there's private stuff going on.
I'll just leave it at that.
There will be a family.
It's happening.
Anyway, let's, uh, what do we got?
By the Fireside says, for the Culture War Shark Tank Show, let Timcast members decide the winner of 10 Gs.
Casting a vote could cost 5 bucks, and each contestant gets a portion of the generated money based on the number of votes received.
Um...
You know what we can do is, that's a good idea, halfway.
Maybe I'm interpreting this wrong, but the idea that TimCast members get to decide who gets the money is actually a really good idea and the easiest way to do it.
So, actually, yeah, that might solve all the problems.
What we'll do is, we'll take submissions.
We will then post the submissions.
Maybe we can even create a form that posts them in real time.
Like, anyone can submit a form and it'll appear on the list, and then people can choose to upvote or downvote.
And then whichever one's at the top at a certain deadline just wins.
And that's how we do it.
So the other cool thing that we're doing is we are setting up a show called Poker with the Boys.
And we're talking with Clint from the Liberty Lockdown podcast to be the host.
We'll see if we get there.
I'm pretty confident we're going to have this show, and the idea is Friday night, after Timcast IRL, we will all go downstairs underneath the new studio where everyone's going to hang out and play poker.
It's not really a show about poker.
It's more a show of after-hours hangout with beers and nachos and whatever, and everybody hangs out.
Poker is kind of just the fun vehicle game everyone plays where they're smack-talking each other.
But it'll probably just be another hangout podcast.
Less formal or whatever.
I like it.
The idea is, though, there's no buy-in.
Because everyone's like, well, I don't know, you know, buy-in.
No, no, no, no.
Everybody will get a certain number of chips to play with.
But the winner gets the Super Chats.
hannah claire brimelow
Oh, interesting.
tim pool
Yeah, so whatever the super chats end up being, it's like whoever wins at the end of the two hours
or whatever will like, there you go, boom, you won the super chats.
unidentified
So there's still incentive to play.
tim pool
Yeah, there's a price.
And then it's the incentive of the audience as well.
If they want to get people seriously invested or whatever, they can super chat.
And then I think we maybe do something with, or I mean, one idea could be giving chips to people
based on who super chats for them.
That'd be funny.
Oh, you get, like, bonus chips if someone, like, says, like... Yeah, people can be like, no, no, no, keep Phil in the game, keep Phil in the game, and then they put in 10 bucks and be like, 10 bucks for Phil, and then Phil gets, like, you know, 10 bucks in chips or whatever, keep him playing.
I don't know, we'll figure it out.
But the idea is just to have a funny hangout, you know, where people... We'll have guests, like I was talking to Cash Patel, I was like, you should come and play, and he's like, that'd be awesome.
So you might see...
You know, whatever, Brandon being like, I have no idea what I'm doing, but playing anyway.
brandon straka
That would be what happens.
tim pool
Exactly, and it'd be funny though.
unidentified
But then they keep giving you tips, they're like, don't leave the table.
tim pool
We could do something like that, it'd be silly.
But yeah, that's the plan.
I'm really excited for that.
All right, Logan Culver says, Adrienne Curry is right, Soviet States of America.
Adrienne is like basically a digital co-host at this point, because she's in the chat all the time providing commentary and every, like, but here's the thing.
phil labonte
She's chat mom.
tim pool
But she's a prominent personality in her own right, so she's here providing commentary in the digital portion of the show and everyone's really excited about it.
So it's an honor and a privilege, Adrienne, that you're in the chat so often giving your thoughts and opinions.
It makes people want to be in the chat.
It's fantastic.
phil labonte
All right.
tim pool
Stringbandmama says, Timcast IRL sucks ass without Luke Rydkowski.
What the heck are you doing?
Yeah, Luke, what are you doing?
hannah claire brimelow
I thought this was Luke's super chat.
This is him in disguise.
tim pool
It probably is Luke.
Luke's sitting there being like, this is stupid.
phil labonte
Luke is the best.
tim pool
Well, you know, Luke left.
Slash chose to leave.
And you know, where's Seamus?
hannah claire brimelow
I did Seamus' show just before this and I was like, he was like, Jezebel misquoted me.
They gave one of my quotes to Ian.
I said, you should come on IRL and talk about it.
He's like, I will, I will.
tim pool
That was funny though.
hannah claire brimelow
Very committal.
tim pool
Was it Jezebel or was it Media Matters or something?
hannah claire brimelow
He said Jezebel, but I don't know which it was.
tim pool
I think it was Jezebel.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
They said Ian Crosland said this and like, it was this very conservative Catholic statement.
I'm like, Ian would never say that.
hannah claire brimelow
I told Seamus that I thought Jezebel did it on purpose to annoy him.
Like they don't even want to have his name in print.
They're like, we'll give it to Ian.
tim pool
This is really funny.
He's sick tonight, I guess.
I don't know.
But this is really funny.
Media Matters put together a list of all of like the worst Timcast guests and I was like, it's a best of list.
But Seamus tweeted something like, I was a co-host on that show for seven months and they didn't include me in the list.
And it's like Seamus has said things that they would absolutely use.
Like he opposes gay marriage for instance.
They don't put him on the list.
hannah claire brimelow
They don't care about him.
unidentified
They're not trying to validate him as a person.
tim pool
Well I'm really excited.
Tomorrow Seamus is putting out a new cartoon.
I'm the voice of Dr. Fauci.
So that'll be up tomorrow at Freedom Tunes.
You guys should check that out.
hannah claire brimelow
What other voices do you do for Seamus?
You do a couple though.
tim pool
99% is Fauci.
It's the only role that Seamus will give me.
But I've also voiced like Antifa guy.
Who talks like this or something?
I don't know.
hannah claire brimelow
I just feel like if Fauci somehow fades into the background, what are we going to do?
tim pool
He did!
And I was like, Seamus, come on, man.
I got a good Nancy Pelosi.
hannah claire brimelow
Seamus is like, not good enough.
You're not in.
tim pool
Well, you know, the thing is that it one-ups Seamus and it makes him look bad because, I do have a good Nancy Pelosi.
unidentified
Donald Trump is the worst president.
tim pool
And so, you know, he can't have that level of talent on his own show.
hannah claire brimelow
On his own show, yeah.
tim pool
You know, so he's gotta relegate me just to the Fauci voice.
But I did a cop once, and it wasn't that good, like the cop one.
I don't know, I'm like, Seamus, you gotta find my strengths, you know?
Like Nancy Pelosi or Lori Lightfoot or whatever.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, seriously.
Come on, Seamus, what are you doing?
tim pool
All right, Kyle Miller says, can I get a shout out to YouTubers like Phil DeFranco that covered January 6th as the worst event in American history and now will not cover the footage released by Tucker Carlson?
I kind of feel like Phil retired.
You know, like he was a big libertarian guy and he got to the point where he was like, can I phone it in?
unidentified
Yeah, that's what it looks like now.
tim pool
I mean, sounds like a good idea.
Can I hire like 10 people to do all the work for me?
And then, you know what?
Here's what we'll do.
Can I just AI deep fake my videos from now on?
I may lose 90%.
brandon straka
I'll buy it, apparently.
tim pool
Just I'll lose 90% of the viewership, but 10% still good, you know?
And then I'll just be like, I'll type into, you know, 11 Labs.
No, I'll type in a chat GPT, write a script of Tim Poole complaining about Chuck Schumer insulting Tucker Carlson.
Then I'll copy and paste it to 11 Labs.
Then I'll just put it over an article and then there I'm done.
unidentified
Yeah, there you go.
tim pool
Mission accomplished.
All right, let's grab some more superchats here.
Anthony Curtis says, happy birthday, Tim, and many more to come.
Have a beer on me.
Well, I don't drink beer, but I will have an Arnold Palmer.
Very delicious unsweet tea with lemonade.
Thank you very much.
brandon straka
Do you not drink?
tim pool
I don't.
I had a little bit of wine.
Like I'm not like teetotaler or anything.
You know, I just, I just can't do it.
We went to dinner.
Oh, I used to drink a lot when I was like, right before I turned like from like 18 to 20, just on the weekends, we'd go party.
But, uh, nowadays it's like, I'll get a beer and I'll have a beer and I'll take two sips and just be like, I physically can't drink this.
I just can't do it.
hannah claire brimelow
You don't feel good after?
tim pool
I haven't had a drink in eight and a half years.
there is, it is the opposite of thirst.
Like putting this to my lips will be unpleasurable.
I can't do it.
I don't know, just I can't.
brandon straka
I haven't had a drink in eight and a half years.
phil labonte
Wow. So yeah, good for you.
tim pool
So yeah, you know, I ordered wine with dinner this weekend and I took two sips and I'm like, that's it for me.
I just can't.
This doesn't work.
phil labonte
It's been five for me.
I think it's five.
tim pool
Everybody stops drinking, I noticed.
brandon straka
I had to.
tim pool
People are tweeting about it.
You had to?
brandon straka
Oh, I had to, yeah.
Well, I'm a cocaine addict.
phil labonte
We had to pick one or the other, right?
You picked the smart one.
brandon straka
I quit everything.
phil labonte
You're like, I picked the thin one.
brandon straka
No, no, no.
I quit everything.
I got sober eight and a half years ago.
phil labonte
Good for you.
tim pool
Let's read this one.
William Knowles says, How did rioters carry out the greatest attack on American democracy and they didn't even have F-15s or nukes?
unidentified
I know, right?
tim pool
Like, what was up with that, huh?
That was so weird.
Mitch altogether says, Tim, excited for the new song.
Also, any thoughts on how to get my money back from Bandcamp?
I opened up a ticket with them, but I haven't heard back.
Oh, that's right.
For people who bought the song on Bandcamp, wait a minute.
hannah claire brimelow
What do you guys do?
tim pool
Yeah, how do you get the song?
Bandcamp deleted our account.
hannah claire brimelow
Bandcamp is like still ghosting you, right?
Like they're just not responding.
tim pool
I think I played a portion of the song before on Instagram.
Actually, I'm pretty sure I did.
I wonder if I can play this right now.
unidentified
Oh, that's it.
tim pool
That's all you're gonna get.
No definitive conclusion, no feel-good close-out, but that's what the song basically is.
Yeah, I posted on Instagram like a year and a half ago a portion of the song, and we've kind of just been sitting on it forever.
hannah claire brimelow
I keep hearing the title Bright Eyes, like, all the time.
I've been wondering when it's coming.
unidentified
I don't know.
hannah claire brimelow
Apparently never, according to Bandcamp.
tim pool
Because we have a whole bunch of songs that are mostly to partly done, and some that are done, and then when we started working on the release plans, it takes a long time to get a song ready for release, and we want to do music videos, so this one just kept getting bumped back and bumped back and bumped back, and then finally Carter was like, dude, we just gotta put this song out, and I'm like, I agree!
It's like I wrote it 20 years ago as it is, and now it's being delayed even more.
People are going to be like, it's like, listen to the 80s or something.
All right, all right.
Cage the Mick says, did you see that Baltimore is trying to prohibit anyone under age 25 from facing felony charges because their brains haven't developed yet?
unidentified
Wow.
Well.
hannah claire brimelow
Did you hear that Sonny D is making an alcoholic seltzer?
We just believe adults are children these days.
tim pool
Wait, what?
hannah claire brimelow
Sonny D, like the drink, they're coming out with a seltzer.
Like an alcoholic seltzer.
tim pool
All right, Adam Brooke says, has China hacked Facebook?
On March 7th, my girlfriend's Facebook account was hacked and her name was changed to Vo Hao Lin.
Apparently hundreds of people's accounts have been hacked in the same way, same name, all started at the beginning of the year.
unidentified
Wow.
First off, that name is Vietnamese, but that's probably what happened.
You just got hacked.
It wasn't really China.
Yeah.
All right.
tim pool
Let's see what we got here.
Legomethagean says, what huge cohort of children will be spayed and neutered like stray cats because they were influenced by Mr. Barbie Pouch?
Somehow the great moral outrage is that people aren't receiving his narcissistic Peter Pan delusion with open arms.
I mean, this is the point.
This idea that, like, Matt Walsh is being too mean, it's like he's not being mean to victims, he's being mean to perpetrators.
He is saying, like, the people who are influencing and causing harm should be called out.
I agree with that.
And I don't think he was that mean.
It was this very, like, dadly, stoic academic insult.
You are eerie.
And unearthly.
unidentified
But what if everyone else is seeing?
brandon straka
If I find what I saw, I'm going to send it to you.
tim pool
Because I want you to see what I... Because if there is a circulating deepfake and so like... You've got to figure out where you found that because we've all seen the Biden one and it is nightmarishly brutal.
hannah claire brimelow
But maybe like the algorithm sent us Biden because of the other stuff that we read, whereas they sent other people the Matt Walsh one because they're like, we know you won't like Matt Walsh and this will provoke a negative reaction.
I just want to see it with like a timestamp or like a date posted because like anyone could make it now.
I don't want to see the original.
brandon straka
Yeah, I'm gonna look.
tim pool
Megan Cole says, Dylan Mulvaney was in an ad for women's deodorant on my Duolingo app today.
It was weird.
hannah claire brimelow
I just think that's a job that a woman has lost, right?
Like women are talking about, you know, not being in the workforce or having problems there and like what do you mean?
Like the women's deodorant campaign is Dylan Mulvaney.
tim pool
Will Callicutt says, just saw someone else in the chat mention this as well, but I'd love to see you bring Tom McDonald on the show sometime.
I have spoken with Tom several times about a bunch of different stuff.
He's an awesome dude and a tremendous talent, and he has an open invite to come on whenever he wants.
Uh, it's just an issue of, he's a very busy guy.
You know, everybody's, you know, it's funny, Ian will be like, yo, we gotta get Brad Pitt on the show.
And I'm like, okay, Ian.
hannah claire brimelow
Get right on it.
tim pool
Yeah, well, yeah.
He's got like, he has this, there's a post-it note, or what does it say?
unidentified
Um, I've got one for Hasan by July.
tim pool
Right.
It's like, okay, Ian.
unidentified
How many?
tim pool
I mean, not to mention the political hurdles there, but people who host their own shows, It's like, hey, stop doing your work and come do mine.
So for someone like Tom McDonald, he's working on music, he's promoting, he's doing his thing.
To ask someone to take time off to come here is very, very difficult, let alone the people who already do, like, you know, Brandon and the work you're doing.
So it's, for someone like Tom McDonald, there's a lot of people who are just, we can get them where we can get them.
Otherwise we'd have tons of these people on every single day.
I mean, like Jack Posobiec lives down the street, practically, and he comes on like once every other month.
We'd love to have him on every single, every day we could have Jack.
But I think Jack's coming tomorrow actually.
unidentified
Sick.
hannah claire brimelow
For your birthday?
tim pool
That's right.
hannah claire brimelow
He better be bringing like keto cupcakes or something.
tim pool
It was gonna be uh Matt Walsh and I was it was really excited really excited it was gonna be that was gonna be a great great show considering everything's going on.
hannah claire brimelow
Does Matt Walsh know he canceled on you on your birthday?
Because that seems extra rude.
tim pool
That's true.
That's true.
On my birthday.
hannah claire brimelow
On your birthday?
unidentified
Wow.
hannah claire brimelow
Maybe we should be mad at him for being mean.
tim pool
Yeah, that's right.
You want to talk about being mean, Matt?
It's my birthday.
hannah claire brimelow
How could you do this to Tim?
How could you do this?
phil labonte
Why are you being mean to Matt?
Why are you being mean to Matt?
Why are you being mean to Tim, like, of all people?
hannah claire brimelow
Phil, get on side for Matt and Matt.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Alright, what do we got here?
Let's grab some more Super Chats.
Carter Banks became a member.
hannah claire brimelow
Carter's like trying to explain how you get money back from Bandcamp.
tim pool
Yeah, that's kind of crazy.
We sold a lot of the music on Bandcamp, and for people who want to be able to download the song, they can't.
hannah claire brimelow
And Bandcamp is not responding to anyone's questions, right?
tim pool
I'll just say this.
If you purchased one of our songs on Bandcamp, I would recommend you contact them about the termination of the account because they took your money.
Granted, they gave the money to us, but I'm pretty sure a portion goes to them.
And if you lost access to it now, and we... There's nothing in our music that breaks any rules about anything.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
At all.
Like, even Genocide, the song, is, like, veiled in its description of what's going on.
It's, like, just a generic anti-establishment song.
There's no overt statements.
Will of the People is just a story, and Only Ever Wanted is a love song.
phil labonte
I'm confident there are gore metal bands on Bandcamp that talk about, like, you know, murder.
tim pool
But if everybody who bought one of our songs contacts Bandcamp, they might Hey, look, maybe they'll come out and be like, you know what, it was a glitch and we didn't realize what happened.
It was an administrative thing.
hannah claire brimelow
And then we couldn't hear you every time you tried to contact us.
tim pool
Well, you know, yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
You're just nice to them.
I think this is crazy.
tim pool
Well, no, I mean, five times August also got removed and was like, what the is going on?
It's like, you know.
hannah claire brimelow
Then they can't block them.
tim pool
Really?
hannah claire brimelow
That's what Libby tweeted today.
unidentified
Oh wow.
hannah claire brimelow
Libby Ammons tweeted that, like, they got tweeted by Bandcamp.
Like, this is very strange.
tim pool
Maybe Bandcamp, uh, let me check.
Because I didn't check if Bandcamp blocked me as well.
hannah claire brimelow
I saw that this afternoon, and I just feel like that's a very strange way to do business.
tim pool
Well, I think considering I have so many followers and I've tweeted at him a couple times, I wouldn't be surprised to find that they have banned me or blocked me, I should say.
They blocked him, is that what you said?
hannah claire brimelow
That's what, I'll find the tweet from Libby, but she had a screenshot.
tim pool
No, they didn't block me.
Libby tweeted it?
Weird, I think I retweeted Libby, yeah.
Let me see what we got here.
unidentified
Libby, where is the, she tweeted it today?
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I'll find it.
I'll send it to you.
tim pool
I'm looking through her Twitter right now just to see if I can, oh yeah, look at that.
Wow, five times August tweeted, oh wow, okay, so it really is banned camp.
That's a good one.
hannah claire brimelow
Saw an opportunity and took it.
unidentified
Yeah, good one.
tim pool
Equitability, interesting.
Well, go broke, Bandcamp!
We don't need you as a platform!
That's the unfortunate reality for y'all, so do what you gotta do.
But they didn't send us any notices or messages or anything, just the account is gone.
It's gone.
But I have to wonder if there's a class action there.
I mean, because we have thousands, I think we've got like, maybe 20,000 people or more?
Maybe 20 or 30,000.
20,000 people or more, maybe 20 or 30,000.
Because over the, it was two songs, two sales, like 30,000 people.
That's a lot of people to be really angry, Bandcamp, about you taking away something they paid for.
How am I supposed to get access to it now?
hannah claire brimelow
With no explanation!
Like, at least send out a generic, oh, we'll think about your request, but no.
tim pool
Yeah, let's see if we can muster- So, the pre-sale link we have right now in the description below for the new song, Bright Eyes, is Amazon.
Which sucks, because Amazon's not great either, but they didn't ban us.
And I really don't think they would.
All right.
SKSNZ says, Yo Tim, how about a shout out for my political cartoon works at SK's Cartoon.
Chances are you've already seen some of them.
My goal is to quit my job and do the cartoon full time.
We got to get that email thing set up for submissions to support these kinds of works.
You know, get more Freedom Tunes, you know?
More competition for Seamus.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, seriously, more competition for Seamus.
tim pool
That's right.
All right, let's grab some more Super Chats here.
What do we have here?
Karissa says, I have PCOS and one of the meds is an anti-androgen to lower my testosterone levels.
My doc said I can't take it while pregnant because it will affect the baby.
Interesting.
I wonder what the testosterone levels will do the baby as well, if it spikes.
And that's polycystic ovarian syndrome?
Is that PCOS?
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, it's PCOS.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, it makes women produce more testosterone or something?
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, and there are complications with your uterus, like scar tissue and stuff like that.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
tim pool
Brutal.
hannah claire brimelow
It's very painful for women who suffer from it, and it can cause all kinds of issues.
unidentified
All right, let's grab some more.
tim pool
John Forge says, happy birthday.
I've owned the website, The House of the People, for over a decade.
The vision is such a huge task.
I'd love to work together and share ideas.
We will check it out.
Thomas Sidebottom says, regarding Bandcamp, this is why subscription services for entertainment content in general is a bad idea.
If you want something, own it.
No, here's the thing.
With Bandcamp, you bought the song and then you clicked download.
But let's say you want to download the song on a different computer or later because you paid for it.
You can't now because they cut you off.
So what did you pay for?
There's probably a lot of people who bought the song and said, I paid for it so I can listen to it here on Bandcamp.
I'll get it later.
And now you can't.
So Bandcamp, what are you doing?
That's interesting.
I wonder to what degree that's a breach of contract.
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brandon straka
Are we at the end?
tim pool
Well, we're going to the members only, but yeah, shout it out.
brandon straka
Oh, that went so fast.
Yeah, I just want to tell everyone once again, WalkAway Social, we've just launched.
It's amazing.
You guys are going to love it.
Please go to the Apple App Store and load the app.
Go to walkwaysocial.com.
You can sign up and it'll be available in the Google Play Store for Android users, I think sometime this week.
It's incredible.
Just go sign up and enjoy the walkway testimonials and upload your own video, your own walkway story.
If you're a walkway person.
WalkAway Social.
It's great.
hannah claire brimelow
Cool.
I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlow.
I'm a writer for TimCast.com.
You can follow me personally on Instagram at hannahclaire.b.
You can follow me on Twitter at hcbrimlow.
I did an interview with Seamus today, and the link's on Twitter somewhere.
You should also follow at TimCastNews on Instagram and Twitter.
It's the best.
You can hear from me and all the other cool journalists.
Thanks so much.
phil labonte
I am Phil Labonte.
The band is All That Remains.
I am philthatremains on Twitter, and philthatremainsofficial on Instagram.
tim pool
And Phil's in the new music video, too.
phil labonte
I am!
unidentified
He has a little quick appearance at the end, yeah.
phil labonte
Coming in to say hi, so check that out in a couple days.
unidentified
And I am, in fact, Waldo from the Famous Where's Waldo series, and you have found me.
Congratulations, your search is over.
You can find me again at search.com.
Yeah, you can find me again at search.com on Twitter.
Yeah, have a good night.
tim pool
Thanks for hanging out, everybody.
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