Feb. 25, 2023 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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| This is viral video showing white dust, some kind of strange substance falling onto cars, | ||
| and news reports that in eastern West Virginia, I love saying that, and Maryland, people are | ||
| reporting a strange substance blanketing their vehicles and their homes and outside. | ||
| Now, of course, everybody's very concerned. | ||
| We're downwind from the East Palestine derailment. | ||
| It may be a little late for this to actually be hitting us now. | ||
| So it could be a dust storm. | ||
| But West Virginia announced they don't know the source of the substance. | ||
| They're going to be testing it. | ||
| Hopefully it's just dust being blown from, you know, the Midwest or from Texas. | ||
| But needless to say, there is an investigation. | ||
| People are concerned. | ||
| And this is exactly what we had been talking about a week or two ago. | ||
| And now, sure enough, what a coincidence, something is happening. | ||
| I gotta say, the idea that it's a dust storm would be the perfect coincidence considering we were just talking about, one, vehicles that were being covered in a white substance or residue near East Palestine. | ||
| Now we're seeing that white substance residue or a similar one in this area downwind from the disaster. | ||
| And then they're like, oh, but there's also a dust storm. | ||
| And I'm like, well, that's the perfect time for a dust storm to happen when we're concerned about exactly this. | ||
| So we'll talk about that. | ||
| Plus, we got a crazy story. | ||
| Project Veritas has seen another, I think, top-level resignation from one of their staff members, and they've put out a video begging people. | ||
| Please, we need your support, and they want James O'Keefe back. | ||
| And then we'll talk about some culture stuff, because we've got a funny story. | ||
| Was it Angela Davis? | ||
| That's her name, right? | ||
| The Black Panther? | ||
| Yeah, she found out she's a descendant of the Mayflower. | ||
| So this is, you know, this is a black critical race theory kind of activist who's discovering she, in fact, is descended from colonizers. | ||
| But the story there is actually a bit nuanced, and a lot of people are laughing, but we'll get into all that. | ||
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| Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is former acting Secretary of Defense Chris C. Miller. | ||
| It was already getting kind of crazy talking about all the stuff that's going on in the administration. | ||
| But yeah, people don't know this. | ||
| He actually showed up at our door, knocked, and said, can I come on? | ||
| We said, not until you write a book. | ||
| And so we kicked him out. | ||
| And then he came back with a book. | ||
| We said, OK, now you can come on. | ||
| So thanks for hanging out. | ||
| It should be fun. | ||
| We also got Allad Eliyahu hanging out. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| What's up? | ||
| I am Allad Eliyahu. | ||
| I'm a fields reporter here at Tim Cass News. | ||
| Thanks for having me. | ||
| And Phil Labonte! | ||
| Hello everyone, I am Phil Labonte, the lead singer of All That Remains, anti-communist and counter-revolutionary. | ||
| That's a business card, man. | ||
| That's how I want to be thought of. | ||
| You don't need a business card because you are a rock star. | ||
| That's right, that's right. | ||
| Chris, we talked about your book a little bit before. | ||
| It's Soldier Secretary is the name of it. | ||
| And talk about repurposing the war machine. | ||
| I've been thinking a lot about it. | ||
| You mentioned that's kind of what's in the book, maybe not the entire premise of the book. | ||
| Really quick, can you elevate or pitch the premise of the book? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Thanks, Ian. | ||
| Thanks for the setup. | ||
| That was awesome. | ||
| Tim, you got the best crew in town. | ||
| Oh, that's what Ian does. | ||
| I think Joe Rogan should be threatened. | ||
| I know you said that there's no competition at all. | ||
| Yeah, because he's got like 500 times the audience we do. | ||
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No. | |
| Hey, not tonight. | ||
| When this gets out. | ||
| Yeah, so the book is really about a couple things. | ||
| You know, only 7% of our nation serves right now and they're veterans, so 93% of our population doesn't serve, which is a good problem to have. | ||
| Like, we're not an armed society, right? | ||
| I love this. | ||
| What I found though, when I was in government, I was an Army Green Beret for years, then I was in government, in the Pentagon, I found there seems to be a misunderstanding between those that serve and those they serve on both sides. | ||
| So I try to like, in an engaging kind of fashion, not one of these You know those boring DC memoirs that are like this big, like door stops and you just name check yourself and you're like, I'm not reading this. | ||
| I wanted to keep this entertaining and engaging. | ||
| So that's kind of the theme of the book, but it's about accountability because I'm still just angry that we can lose a war and nobody's held accountable. | ||
| People get promoted and they move up in the in the ranks or they get these big jobs. So I'm kind of | ||
| still a little bit angry about that. | ||
| And then finally, yeah, I think, you know, we're spending way too much money on defense. And I | ||
| think a lot of that, some of that can be spent much better. | ||
| Not some of it, a lot of it can be but spent much better. Well, let's get into it in the show. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Sorry, man. | ||
| I didn't mean to. | ||
| I talked too. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| No, not too long. | ||
| You did what I asked. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| And also, I want to introduce Kellen. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| What's up, everybody? | ||
| It's Kellen. | ||
| Surge is doing the Culture War with Tim Pool. | ||
| He's producing that show on Friday mornings. | ||
| So he's not here on Friday nights. | ||
| I'll be filling in for now. | ||
| And then but yeah, go and check out the Culture War. | ||
| I wanted to make him work 24 hours straight with no sleep, but they told me that was illegal. | ||
| So I guess Kellen's here. | ||
| All right, let's uh, let's jump into the first story and we have this tweet from Roz Alerts. | ||
| Roz Alerts? | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Either way, breaking multiple reports of an unknown white dust particles falling out of the sky in West Virginia and Maryland. | ||
| Currently multiple people across West Virginia into Maryland area are reporting an unknown white dust film descending from the sky. | ||
| Some local fire departments are advising people to shut their doors and windows and avoid outdoors until it can be identified. | ||
| Well, let's play the video. | ||
| There you go, look at this. | ||
| It could just be a dust storm. | ||
| That's what some people are saying. | ||
| But uh... Yeah, look at that. | ||
| I don't know about that. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
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It is weird. | |
| So, look at that. | ||
| That's creepy. | ||
| Isn't Cocaine Bear coming out this weekend? | ||
| Is this some weird... That's what people are saying. | ||
| Are they cocaine? | ||
| I thought that was original. | ||
| They blanket the eastern seaboard in white dust to promote their movie? | ||
| Probably not a good idea. | ||
| Now, Raw's Alert says, we think this is from yesterday's dust storm that was in parts of New Mexico, Texas, Oklahoma, as weather satellite shows large plumes of dust blowing across the states and making its way to the east coast. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| But I just want to point out, we have this from the West Virginia, this is the, what is this? | ||
| DEPW.gov. | ||
| The Department of, what is that? | ||
| Environment or something? | ||
| Environmental Protection. | ||
| Coordinating with state and local agencies to investigate dust issue in the Eastern Panhandle. | ||
| They received reports late Thursday night about the dust and mobilized inspectors. | ||
| No shelter-in-place advisories have been issued in the area. | ||
| They say that we have staff on site who are coordinating with our state and local partners to identify the material or any potential causes. | ||
| Samples will be taken. | ||
| They don't know exactly what it is. | ||
| So a heck of a convenient time for a dust storm to hit when last week we're like, hey, we're really worried being downwind from East Palestine when they're burning all these chemicals. | ||
| There's videos coming out of Ohio showing cars blanketed with some kind of white residue. | ||
| And now we're hearing in the area downwind from East Palestine, cars are being blanketed in white residue. | ||
| So it's just bad timing? | ||
| Is it bad timing? | ||
| Or what do you guys think? | ||
| Well, I mentioned, I think a few days ago about the half-life of some of the chemicals that are involved in the process. | ||
| Vinyl chloride being one of them, 2.3 day half-life, doesn't mean that they disappear, that half of it disappears every 2.3 days. | ||
| It just turns into something else. | ||
| So it could have turned into, there could be other stuff up there. | ||
| I don't like the hypochondriac lifestyle of like, please be afraid and avoid what might be a problem. | ||
| There are scales, my friend. | ||
| There are scales. | ||
| You can choose to be a paranoid hypochondriac or you can choose to plug your ears and act like nothing's happening. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Trying to find that balance is the difficult thing. | ||
| That's why I say, look, they think it may be from a dust storm. | ||
| We don't know. | ||
| And it's a heck of a bad timing for a dust storm to happen when we're concerned about these chemicals. | ||
| I would, I imagine that it might have something to do with the weather, and the only reason that I feel that way, honestly, is because yesterday was almost 80 degrees, it was super windy, so the weather's been a little wacky around here, so I think that that might have something to do with it. | ||
| I really don't think that, that's what I would put my money on. | ||
| Is that normal? | ||
| It was 80 yesterday? | ||
| It was 70. | ||
| 78 or something, it's going down to 30 tonight. | ||
| Yeah, so the weather's been kind of wacky, there was a lot of wind today, so I think that that's probably, Like, not trying to, you know, be the wet blanket, but I really think that it's most likely something benign. | ||
| I don't think I've ever seen a dust storm before. | ||
| I've never been in a... The Dust Bowl, the first part of the 20th century, there was dust from Iowa making its way all the way to D.C. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| No kidding. | ||
| This is heard of. | ||
| Yeah, Google the Dust Bowl. | ||
| The historic average for this month in the Harpers Ferry area is 39 degrees. | ||
| It was so nice yesterday. | ||
| And it was double that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It was it was double the average. | ||
| So what's the I don't know if they have the record list down here. | ||
| I'm looking at like weather weather dot com or something. | ||
| I know it's the boring answer, but I do think that it's because it was the crazy weather. | ||
| The record is 73. | ||
| We must have broke that because I think we definitely did. | ||
| I think we must have broken the record. | ||
| Huh. | ||
| The Dust Bowl is interesting. | ||
| I'm reading about it now during the 1930s, just a period of severe dust storms. | ||
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Mm hmm. | |
| That's how the desert in Maine was formed, similar to why the Dust Bowl was a problem, just over-farming. | ||
| Yeah, no crop rotation, they weren't maintaining topsoil and stuff like that. | ||
| So, even if it is a dust storm, of dust blowing from the south, it doesn't mean that it can't pick up vinyl chloride residue and particles in the atmosphere on the way. | ||
| Fair enough, that's true. | ||
| Do you guys hear about, like, there's a bunch of factories on fire or something like that? | ||
| No, I'm just seeing videos of factories blown up. | ||
| I saw someone talking today, I think it was someone from the Blaze, was talking about three fires in oil, of the same oil company. | ||
| And I don't remember the name of the company, I didn't bookmark the tweet. | ||
| And there's tweets right now, I'm seeing a tweet about a uranium fire? | ||
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No. | |
| In Oak Ridge, Tennessee. | ||
| See, it's hard to know. | ||
| You been? | ||
| Three fires broke out at three different facilities in Mexico. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I typed in Ukrainian fire, Tennessee and yup. | ||
| Ukrainian? | ||
| It's two days ago. | ||
| Uranium. | ||
| You got Ukraine on the brain. | ||
| Everybody does, man. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Joe Biden's giving them more priority than us. | ||
| Yeah, it was two days ago. | ||
| There was no injuries or release of radioactivity after uranium fire at Y-12 in Oak Ridge. | ||
| That's no joke. | ||
| So Oak Ridge is where, you know, the first atomic weapons were built. | ||
| Got to go there when I was acting Secretary of Defense. | ||
| It was like bucket list thing. | ||
| The people down there, like the scientists and the engineers, but that's no joke if they had a fire down there. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Why haven't we heard more about that? | ||
| Look, man, I've been... Maybe it's a little too paranoid for Ian, but if a cyber attack was hitting our infrastructure, we and the public would not know about it. | ||
| The government's not gonna come out and be like, oh, you know that explosion that happened at that oil refinery? | ||
| Yeah, we were attacked by China. | ||
| They're gonna ignore it. | ||
| Unless they need to rally support. | ||
| At the time they decide to get involved in the conflict, then they'll come out and be like, yeah, we're being attacked. | ||
| And then it could actually be a disaster, unrelated to war, and they'll just say it is war. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| If they could keep the cat in the bag, you know, nowadays with independent media and everything, somebody gets a quick little clip of that on their iPhone, shoots it up to Twitter, shoots it up to TikTok or something, it goes viral. | ||
| Yeah, people's access to phones and everything. | ||
| Do you think it could break through? | ||
| Because that's my thing. | ||
| It's so hard, and you guys do this every day, to break through the chaos of the media environment. | ||
| Do you think you could break through with a video of something from K-12 or Y-12 at Oak Ridge? | ||
| So if I was able to post it on TimCast News on Twitter, then definitely. | ||
| But maybe you could tell us a little bit more about, like, I don't know, the nation's ability to, like, censor us online. | ||
| Because if something like that did happen, I'd imagine that, you know, they'd try to suspend free speech or try to keep it on raps, not let reporters report on whatever attack was going on. | ||
| If they were trying to keep it, you know, still a secret. | ||
| I'm with you. | ||
| Send it to TimCast. | ||
| I'm with you. | ||
| Charlie P. says, the ash is happening here in PA. | ||
| It is not weather. | ||
| Yeah, they're burning stuff. | ||
| I wouldn't be surprised if what they're burning is making its way down here. | ||
| But anyway, not to derail what we were just talking about. | ||
| Oh, did you really say derail? | ||
| Did you see that clip from where Pete Buttigieg had a brain cramp? | ||
| He said, uh, sorry, I didn't mean to derail. | ||
| He said something. | ||
| Did you see that one? | ||
| There's a train. | ||
| He used a train analogy. | ||
| Oh, it was so like, you know, you know, when you're in the zone, you, you know, and I felt bad for the guy, but I was like, Ooh. | ||
| He's so bad at this. | ||
| They're all bad at it. | ||
| It's like they shouldn't be in these positions. | ||
| But you know, here we are. | ||
| It's like that meme where it's like wondering how something got there. | ||
| There's like a car on top of a gate. | ||
| And then there's like a dog on a roof. | ||
| And then you've got like Kamala Harris at the podium or whatever. | ||
| And then you've got Pete Buttigieg in East Palestine. | ||
| I don't know, there are ashes here, there are ashes in Pennsylvania, there's even ashes in East Palestine, or maybe that's just peace-booted judges' presidential ambitions going up in flames. | ||
| I was going to go with Ash Wednesday too, but that would be a really bad pun. | ||
| I would say that would be too mean, but Matt Walsh has convinced me otherwise. | ||
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You decided you could be mean now. | |
| Only for goodness. | ||
| Well, so the issue is, you know, talking about this Matt Walsh thing, I'm not saying to, you know, scream at somebody and insult them. | ||
| You know, I'm saying be meaner. | ||
| You can't just be passive and say, slow down there, Democrats. | ||
| You've got to actually be like, no, stop. | ||
| And we should shame people doing bad things like degenerate behavior that harms children should be shamed and ostracized and shunned from society. | ||
| I like the word mean in mathematics. | ||
| The mean is the average. | ||
| So you're really bringing things back to center when you're being mean. | ||
| And a lot of times that can be like, no, well, reality is this. | ||
| Bill's face right now is hilarious. | ||
| He's just like, he has this look like, Ian, you're insane. | ||
| In that sense, be mean if you're going to bring, if you're going to ground people in reality. | ||
| But if you're attempting to make their life worse with your behavior than that, I think I have no... Ian, you can't go and just say, let's change what the word means. | ||
| Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, stop, stop, Phil. | ||
| I felt the pull you felt right, you feel right now, but I gotta go with Ian on this one, because he's basically giving a golden ticket for everybody to be mean to bad people. | ||
| I am mean in life. | ||
| I will tell you directly to your face what I think. | ||
| What he's saying is, if there's someone who's a really bad person who's harming kids, and you are mean to them, you're actually pulling them back down to the average by doing so, and I'll take it. | ||
| Look, woodchipper goes burr when it comes to pedos, but when it comes to actually changing the meaning of words... There you are with that meaning. | ||
| Mean. | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| I think, Ian, you have an issue with making puns out of political arguments. | ||
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My head's going to explode after that one. | |
| Being mean isn't being nasty. | ||
| That's why they're different words. | ||
| It's not being cruel because that's why they're different words. | ||
| Meanness has a... | ||
| I'm sitting here you know being like all these people are talking to Matt Walsh saying you shouldn't be mean to people and blah blah blah and Matt's like no there's no limits like we can't let these people do these bad things and he's giving you a straight justification for his action and then Ian gives this circuitous semantic definition of well actually mean just reply signifies the average in which case when you're mean to someone you're just making them average and it's like okay however you want to Literally causing me physical pain with that. | ||
| However you want to justify calling someone a creepy degenerate, I will accept. | ||
| What Matt Walsh is talking about is be as cruel as you can. | ||
| He intends to be cruel. | ||
| I don't think Matt Walsh was saying be as cruel as possible. | ||
| Maybe not as possible. | ||
| He was just saying be mean to these people. | ||
| I talked about this with Ali earlier. | ||
| Talk about it last night. | ||
| You've got people who are doing bad things that hurt people. | ||
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Yes. | |
| And they either experience positive reaction or neutral reaction. | ||
| If there is no negative response to their actions, they'll just keep doing it because the investment is clearly in one direction. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Positive reinforcement. | ||
| Kid that wants to eat sugar. | ||
| And you're like, no, you can't have that. | ||
| You're being mean! | ||
| Why are you being mean? | ||
| I want it! | ||
| And you're like, you're not going to have it. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| That's a good example. | ||
| And so that's me being mean. | ||
| But if I'm, if I'm actually want to hurt that kid and make that kid's life worse, I'm not, that's not the reason to be mean to him. | ||
| If you want to make that kid's life worse, you give him more sugar. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Or call him an idiot. | ||
| You know, I could insult him, too. | ||
| No, you stupid moron. | ||
| I'm not trying to hurt the kid. | ||
| I'm trying to protect him by being mean. | ||
| It depends. | ||
| I think this is another good analogy for what's happening in the culture war, what's happening with society, is you've got people who are gluttonous on social media, in a social sense, in that they will do weird things, get a positive response, and then say, I will keep doing this, because no one is giving them a negative response. | ||
| You need to tell people who are doing bad things what you're doing is bad. | ||
| And you can do it in a bunch of different ways. | ||
| You know, calling someone creepy and degenerate is not the worst possible thing in the world for a person, and it may make them rethink targeting children and causing harm to other people. | ||
| And then sometimes the ends justify the means and in the case of Matt Walsh it goes bigger than just that video he released because in Tennessee he also held a ban on trans rallies or I'm getting that butchered but butchered but he in Tennessee they actually also managed to pass something in their state legislature banning gender transition for people I think around 14 or 15 you need a fact check me on that but you know he's actually accomplishing things and I think it's like called culture jamming So, Matt Walsh is doing a good job drawing attention to this, even if he's being a little bit mean. | ||
| You know, he's actually getting things done in Tennessee. | ||
| He's literally the one to talk. | ||
| Think about using anger in, like, just the whole society. | ||
| Well, I'm thinking about using it in, like, Jimmy Dore's, like, you got to get mad. | ||
| You got to get out on the street and block traffic. | ||
| You need to be the disruption and, like, feel like in the 70s when they were protesting the Vietnam War, they were angry. | ||
| angry, they were pissed because their friends were getting drafted and blown apart and they | ||
| were like, fear of being sucked into this stupid war. | ||
| So I understand that maybe getting angry, there is some value to it. | ||
| I just, I see it get out of control really quick a lot of times, especially in conversation. | ||
| So I don't know. | ||
| What do you, what do you think, Chris? | ||
| I mean, you've been doing this a long time. | ||
| I love the conversation yesterday on that. | ||
| And I guess I think we do need to get it's about accountability. | ||
| I think in a lot of ways is what you're talking about is by being mean, you're driving accountability into the system. | ||
| No? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, call it accountability, call it whatever you want, the math is simple. | ||
| If someone goes on Instagram and throws a pie at a stranger, and Instagram gives him money, and all the users say, hey, that was really funny, you're amazing, he's gonna go, wow, people really like when I do this, they're gonna keep doing it. | ||
| We saw this with prank videos on YouTube. | ||
| There were videos that were getting increasingly dangerous and insane. | ||
| It starts with one guy being like, I'm gonna do a prank, and he goes, bah! | ||
| You know, he like jumps out from behind a building, whoa! | ||
| And then they're like, ah, you scared me, you silly goose! | ||
| And then he gets a million views. | ||
| Three months later, the dude's wearing a Freddy Krueger mask and drawing a knife and swinging it at people. | ||
| I'm exaggerating, but you actually had a trend on YouTube where people would walk into black neighborhoods and throw racial slurs at black people because it got traffic on YouTube. | ||
| There was no negative reaction to the things they were doing. | ||
| Finally, YouTube was like, we're going to start banning content that does this and apply a negative pressure. | ||
| That's, I don't necessarily agree, I actually kind of agree to a certain extent with this. | ||
| If people were doing things that were like expressing an opinion or being silenced for it, it's one thing. | ||
| If you're literally trying to cause fights, and that's what they were doing, they would walk up to some minority, Say a slur to them, and then get beaten up. | ||
| And they were getting millions of views on this stuff. | ||
| It's like bumfights. | ||
| It's like, I got my limits on, you know, what should be promoted and be given a positive response to. | ||
| What ends up happening is, there needs to be, it used to be journalists, they'd be like, hey, this is a bad thing and we're gonna show you, and then everyone would be like, shun the bad person, shun them. | ||
| Now we're in this era of total acceptance. | ||
| So people go on Instagram, people go on Twitter, TikTok, YouTube, and they'll do something genuinely bad and harmful, but now they're getting protected by big tech. | ||
| They're going on and telling children to harm themselves, and they're getting protected. | ||
| And then Matt Walsh comes out and says, you are eerie, you are creepy, no one will find you attractive. | ||
| And he didn't say it screaming, he wasn't spitting, he's very calmly saying, this is the reality, this is the truth. | ||
| You need to have that so that the people who are doing the bad things say, you know what, maybe I shouldn't do this. | ||
| I'm going to give you an example. | ||
| He was talking about Dylan Mulvaney. | ||
| Dylan Mulvaney has videos where he's giving tampons. | ||
| He's talking about taking tampons and using them and other things like this. | ||
| Dylan Mulvaney did not care that people on the right were critical of it. | ||
| It was only when leftists got critical and said, what you are doing is creepy, did Dylan Mulvaney come out and be like, I'm sorry, I was just trying to help. | ||
| The negative reaction worked in stopping a person from doing a bad thing that hurt people. | ||
| So, you don't need to go and do anything crazy. | ||
| You just need to say outright, like, I don't like you. | ||
| I think you're bad. | ||
| I think you're unattractive. | ||
| I think you're an evil person. | ||
| Tell them why they're bad. | ||
| don't let them just don't tolerate bad behavior that's hurting people. | ||
| Absolutely. And I wanted to clarify on the bill in Tennessee that Matt Walsh helped | ||
| drum up support for it says Tennessee House Republicans on Thursday overwhelmingly passed | ||
| the ban on gender transition health care for minors. The bill prohibits children from receiving | ||
| puberty blockers, hormone therapies or surgical procedures. | ||
| People who receive the treatments as minors would also be able to sue parents, guardians and | ||
| physicians for authorizing the care under a statute of limitations. Wow. | ||
| So you think Daily Wire being in Tennessee has anything to do with that? | ||
| Well, he had a Matt Walsh had a rally there that helped him up a lot of support for this and he lobbied for this as well. | ||
| And definitely, I think it has something. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| I mean, what is a woman as a documentary was tremendous. | ||
| It pushed the story into the mainstream. | ||
| It was all, like, everybody had talked about it, was watching it. | ||
| Joe Rogan comes out, and he's like, you see this thing? | ||
| This is crazy. | ||
| A lot of people did not know what they're doing, and they're still doing, and they're expanding on. | ||
| You know, one of the weirdest things about protecting, like, not letting people do harm to children, and they're like, you can't put kids on puberty blockers when they're 11, because that's going to hurt them in the long run. | ||
| You can't cut children's penises off, because that's going to hurt them in the long run. | ||
| But then I've heard from other people are like, if they don't get the chemical castration they need, Then they're going to kill themselves and you're doing harm to them. | ||
| If they don't get their penis cut off, then you're doing harm to them because they don't feel right. | ||
| That's a lie. | ||
| How do those two realities... It's not reality. | ||
| It's a lie. | ||
| It's definitely a warped way of looking. | ||
| I think it's a warped way because I've never heard people talk like that before. | ||
| It's like Donald Trump. | ||
| gets on the phone with the president of Ukraine and he's like, what's this video that's going | ||
| around where Biden's trying to withhold money or something? | ||
| Can you look into that? And then the establishment machine comes out and says, Donald Trump | ||
| engaged in a quid pro quo. And so now he's going to be impeached. And it's like, it was Joe Biden who | ||
| did that, not Donald Trump. They project what, like, they accuse everyone of doing what they | ||
| are literally doing. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| So when they're targeting children and putting them in situations that could result in death and suicide and self-harm, they accuse everyone else of doing it. | ||
| But you take a look at what's going on with detransitioners, and there's more and more every single day. | ||
| I was talking with Ali London about how on Reddit there's 50,000 members of the detransition subreddit. | ||
| Horror stories of saying, like, I was tricked into this, I was rushed into this. | ||
| I think Chloe Cole is now suing Kaiser Permanente. | ||
| Yeah, so when these people come out and say, no, we have to, otherwise the children will be harmed, it's like, I'm pretty sure amputating the genitals of a child will not save their life, but probably cause them to self-harm in the future. | ||
| That's just common sense. | ||
| Chris, I know we're seeing a lot of this transgenderism and LGBTQ ideology infiltrate a lot of different parts of our government and society. | ||
| I know you were a former Secretary of Defense. | ||
| Can you tell me? | ||
| And you also served in Afghanistan. | ||
| Did you see any of that in the army? | ||
| And what are what have been the current policies towards it? | ||
| Do you think they should be different? | ||
| Specifically, General Milley? | ||
| Did you set me up for that? | ||
| No! | ||
| No, I didn't! | ||
| I did, oh gosh, 30-something years in the military. | ||
| And this might sound cliche, but it's not. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| I never met a single person that joined the military to fight the culture wars, right? | ||
| The military is the ultimate meritocracy. | ||
| Work hard. | ||
| You'll get promoted. | ||
| You'll have opportunities. | ||
| And so people join to prepare to fight real wars. | ||
| So I have great hope. | ||
| And I know you guys get a little down once in a while. | ||
| Like, you know, this is ancient Rome or something. | ||
| But I'll tell you what, the sergeants, the ones that are responsible for like four soldiers, sailors, airmen, marine, space force, guardians, they're focused on making sure their people are ready to go to war. | ||
| I went down to a special forces group recently because I thought maybe I'm out of sorts. | ||
| I'm old now. | ||
| I've been out of the military for a few years. | ||
| I went down there just to kind of do a temperature check, check on the sergeants that run the army, and I'm like, okay, they've still got the right focus. | ||
| The problem, I think, is that they're confused because their leadership is getting involved in the culture wars. | ||
| And they're like, if I get involved in the culture wars, I get fired. | ||
| I think there's a confusion, there's a loss of confidence between those that are down there doing everyday work, leading soldiers, and their bosses who are saying, there's that saying, do as I say, not as I do. | ||
| That doesn't work in the military. | ||
| You've got to be coherent across. | ||
| I'm worried, yes, but I'm also enormously, enormously confident in our young leaders. | ||
| These kids are 21, 22 years old, and they're responsible for four or five other people's lives. | ||
| They take that pretty seriously. | ||
| So I'm not worried about that. | ||
| I'm worried about the fact that, yeah. | ||
| Senior leadership's getting involved in things that they shouldn't get involved in. | ||
| They need to focus on warfighting and combat effectiveness. | ||
| I was thinking like if something were to happen, tragic, and the United States was sucked into a war for real, like the balloon floated over the United States for five days or whatever. | ||
| That I would hope the military is ready to step in and take control if Biden can't do his job, which he seems like he's not able to do his job. | ||
| I don't want to not have faith in the guy, but I don't have faith in him. | ||
| You don't want the military to take over. | ||
| I want, if there's a commander that is incapable of commanding, he needs to be relieved of duty. | ||
| That's what we have the Vice President and the Speaker of the House for. | ||
| There is a line of people that Assume a line of civilian office if the president can't do his job You do not want the military to assume power if when you can have when we have The whole Constitution has got like all this stuff handled | ||
| I don't care about the Constitution. | ||
| In reality, if we were under threat of death, I don't want Joe Biden in control of the military or Kamala Harris. | ||
| Chris, so I know that trans soldiers, they could currently openly serve right now in the army and the force will provide hormone therapy and mental health care. | ||
| Do you think that's in within the purview of what they should be happening in the army? | ||
| I'll tap dance on that one a little bit. | ||
| First off, Phil, preach it. | ||
| It's all about civilian control. | ||
| And the last thing we ever want is a military officer to think, and that's part of my book, is that I'm concerned That the military, the senior officers are getting too big-headed about this and thinking like, yeah, if there's a problem, we'll step in. | ||
| Because there were rumors about that, remember, with President Trump, that the senior military leadership was like, we think this guy's crazy. | ||
| The third, on January 6th, the third in line to the office of the president asked the head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, hey, can we just have the military room? | ||
| Can we get crew-served machine guns? | ||
| Nancy Pelosi requested a military coup on January 6th. | ||
| That actually happened. | ||
| She went to Milley and asked him. | ||
| It blows my mind. | ||
| She called and said, can they intervene and stop Trump? | ||
| Should Trump try to engage in any kind of military activity? | ||
| He said, ma'am, that would be a coup against a sitting president. | ||
| She tried! | ||
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| Obviously we need civilian leadership because you don't want a junta taking control like a military government, but if you have incompetent leadership, do we just wait and hope that the next civilian is going to do it right? | ||
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Do we just sit and wait? | |
| What makes you think that just because the person that would assume control from the military is somehow competent? | ||
| Just because they're in the military? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I just know that Joe Biden's not, in my opinion. | ||
| Yes, fair, but that doesn't mean, like, that doesn't mean you throw the Constitution away, or you throw the, or just go ahead and throw all the laws away. | ||
| Well, Joe Biden, you know, he's got tapioca for brains, so we got to go ahead and get a general to run the show? | ||
| Uh-uh. | ||
| That is a terrible, terrible idea. | ||
| I feel what you're saying, concerned about Joe Biden. | ||
| I get it, because I feel it too. | ||
| Joe Biden, I genuinely believe he's got cognitive problems. | ||
| But just because of that, that is not a justification to have him removed from office with guns. | ||
| That is third world country, that is banana republic stuff, that is going to war kind of stuff. | ||
| That is not what we need. | ||
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Not at all. | |
| It is like going to war kind of stuff. | ||
| I'm saying if we are declared war upon, and now we're in it, there are Chinese troops in Alaska moving down. | ||
| Do we just wait for Biden to wake up? | ||
| Do we wait for Kamala Harris to take control? | ||
| What do we do? | ||
| Let's ask the expert who is currently sitting across from us. | ||
| What do you do in the event, let's say the U.S. | ||
| gets invaded? | ||
| Let's wheel things back. | ||
| Chinese spy balloon comes over the U.S., potentially tracking data on our nuclear sites, potentially tracking data on the sensors that it's picking up what's coming at it. | ||
| So the things that we're using to detect it, it is actually detecting. | ||
| Let's say that's a precursor to a move on Taiwan. | ||
| Let's say before the move on Taiwan, we've already seen China go into territorial waters around Alaska and Hawaii. | ||
| Let's say they start positioning the military, strike on Taiwan, and then instantly we get a battalion of Chinese troops paradropping or crashing on the shores of Alaska or something. | ||
| Do we just sit here and go, Biden's got it handled? | ||
| I'm flashing back to Red Dawn. | ||
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Come on. | |
| It's been remade, right? | ||
| I didn't see the second one. | ||
| In the event a true conflict reaches the shores of the United States, do we just sit back and say Biden is our president and he's got it? | ||
| I still have faith the system will work in regards to, like, that's not something you can ignore, right? | ||
| So, and this kind of comes back a little bit, like, so you've got Secretary Austin, he's the Secretary of Defense. | ||
| You have Mark Milley, you can say what you want. | ||
| General Milley is the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. | ||
| They will go to the President and say, this is what has to be done. | ||
| Now, the question is, what's their guidance going to be? | ||
| But at the end of the day, that's like an act of war. | ||
| So we're going to go to war over that. | ||
| Now, let's talk about that spy balloon. | ||
| Was that an act of war that it violated our airspace? | ||
| Well, we let it, right? | ||
| We could go on all day about that. | ||
| So, go ahead. | ||
| I think the issue is Milley and whoever else, they're going to go to Biden and go, Mr. President, we have currently an incursion into U.S. | ||
| soil in Alaska by a Chinese unit. | ||
| We need to act now. | ||
| And Biden's going to be like, so deploy the troops to Libya. | ||
| And he's going to be like, sir, you heard me. | ||
| Get it done. | ||
| Okay! | ||
| Do they say, no, I won't follow that order, you meant to say Alaska? | ||
| That's exactly my concern is... | ||
| Your last resort when you're in those positions, if your boss, in this case the president, says something wacky is you resign and you go public. | ||
| And we don't do that anymore, right? | ||
| So that's the concern is everybody's in lockstep right now because they want to get promoted or whatever. | ||
| And that's exactly the issue that concerns me is who's quit? | ||
| Let's talk about the spy balloon. | ||
| Who offered their resignation over that? | ||
| That was a gross failure, right? | ||
| That was a gross failure. | ||
| Shouldn't somebody have been fired? | ||
| They won't even admit that it was a gross failure. | ||
| But shouldn't, in the military, someone should have come forward and said, I was responsible for the defense of our airspace. | ||
| It was violated. | ||
| I failed. | ||
| I am quitting. | ||
| I'm resigning because I failed to do my job. | ||
| Nobody's come forward to do that. | ||
| So that's my concern, is we don't have that ethos now. | ||
| That's essential to the officer corps. | ||
| That's why I brought this whole conversation up, because, like, where's the leadership? | ||
| But I can see, like, the end of the Roman Republic, Julius Caesar came with the military and took control of the military dictatorship empire. | ||
| I don't want that. | ||
| But that's where my mind is focused, with a lack of leadership, with, like, what the hell's been happening last month? | ||
| Where is Biden on East Ohio? | ||
| I want to say this. | ||
| I'm wondering, we talk about morals and ethics and often it's not black and white. | ||
| There's a gradient. | ||
| To what degree do we accept censorship or oppose free speech? | ||
| Even people who claim to be free speech absolutists, I'm like, you've got a limit. | ||
| If somebody is posting videos of child exploitation, you're probably going to come out and be like, OK, yeah, that's not speech. | ||
| That's illegal. | ||
| It's like, well, it's not. | ||
| And that means you don't agree, you don't believe that anyone can just say or produce anything they want. | ||
| There are certain things that are illegal. | ||
| And then even insofar as what if you're not a producer of it, you're sharing it for some reason to express an idea. | ||
| No, still no. | ||
| You can't do that stuff. | ||
| So we accept that there are limits in this regard. | ||
| I wonder about... I kind of lost my train of thought. | ||
| What were we just talking about? | ||
| We were talking about basically when is it appropriate to resign, the ethics of, you know, a leadership and whose accountability. | ||
| I thought was kind of where we were going with this. | ||
| I'm with... I got you about Caesar. | ||
| That was my biggest concern. | ||
| January 6th, there was this narrative. | ||
| My issue is basically, we obviously don't like Cambodia, the Khmer Rouge, the Killing Fields, whatever. | ||
| We see what happens when brutal, merciless dictatorships take over the Soviet Union. | ||
| But I wonder if the reason there's such a negative view of things like the Roman Empire is because the people who were in those countries who wrote down the stories of what happened were the fat, gluttonous degenerates who were shocked to find that a country was actually trying to have some morals again. | ||
| What I mean to say is, it's not black and white. | ||
| There's certainly circumstances where we're like, okay, we got a problem with this dictatorship. | ||
| And I'm sure there are circumstances where you get a more classically liberal but community-based, stern attitude of service guarantees citizenship. | ||
| That is to say, a government that doesn't come to you and lock you in a gulag and mercilessly beat you, a government that comes and says, I'm sorry, we're not going to pay your healthcare because you're a glutton and you're eating too much food, you need to stop. | ||
| Well, the gluttons, the degenerates, are going to freak out. | ||
| They're going to write every story in the world about how the fascists are taking over and we're watching this happen. | ||
| So if I saw something That was like, service guarantees citizenship. | ||
| If you wanna vote, you have to provide some kind of community service. | ||
| Not military, maybe it's picking up trash. | ||
| The left is gonna scream, fascism, fascism! | ||
| And I'm kinda like, doesn't that just mean personal responsibility? | ||
| No one's telling you you're going to prison, no one's gonna beat you, you can still speak, you can still play video games, you can still yell the ho-hos and ding-dongs in the world, but we're saying you've got to be responsible to the community around you. | ||
| They would call that fascism. | ||
| So in the event, we did have a quote-unquote military takeover, but I'm saying that, you know, somewhat tongue-in-cheek. | ||
| I mean quite literally if they came out and said, hey, there's a minimum standard and it's going to be this, but you'll be able to live your lives as you see fit. | ||
| The people who are going to write the history books are going to claim a military dictatorship destroyed freedom in this country, when in reality it might actually just be something like, hey, we're about to collapse. | ||
| The country is going to fall apart. | ||
| The economy is spiraling out of control. | ||
| There's riots in the street. | ||
| I'll give you a better example. | ||
| If Donald Trump deployed the military, invoking the Insurrection Act during the Summer of Love, saving 30 plus lives, they would write down in the history books, a military dictator Donald Trump suppressed free speech. | ||
| So I question these narratives throughout history. | ||
| Some of them are probably bad. | ||
| Some of them might not have been as bad. | ||
| The most recent, at least supposed coup that almost tried to happen in our country was supposed to be January 6th. | ||
| Chris, you were acting Secretary of Defense at this time. | ||
| Sixth in line for the presidency, so if some coup happened... I think it's sixth in line. | ||
| Can somebody fact check me on that? | ||
| I believe it's sixth in line. | ||
| Could you tell me a little bit more about, not your role in January 6th, but our reaction to it, as I understand, with the National Guard? | ||
| Careful with your phrasing there. | ||
| You know, and then also we were talking about people resigning. | ||
| There were a lot of people who resigned from the Trump administration following this. | ||
| Yeah, Sunshine Soldiers. | ||
| You brought up, if we would have sent soldiers up on Capitol Hill On January 6th, the morning of. | ||
| So let's go back. | ||
| I hate to do this. | ||
| Let's go back. | ||
| I'm going to be pedantic and talk about our high school civics class. | ||
| Capitol Hill Legislative Branch. | ||
| Military Executive Branch. | ||
| Capitol Hill, you don't go up there if you're the executive branch of the military unless you're invited. | ||
| To do something different is called a military coup. | ||
| So I was not going to be party to that, obviously, because that's un-American and in violation of my oath of office to the Constitution. | ||
| So this narrative that we should have moved faster or had been up there beforehand would have been... Could you imagine what would have happened if we would have pushed, if I would have pushed National Guard troops up on Capitol Hill before the riots started? | ||
| Wow, it would have been a mess. | ||
| I know the only person who got killed was Ashley Babbitt by Capitol Police Officer Michael Byrd. | ||
| That was the only shot fired. | ||
| Do you think that was a justifiable shot given the situation? | ||
| Well, you know, the protective service detail, I don't, it appears to me that when she came through the window that she, she crashed in on the security bubble and they, and they shot her. | ||
| That was the moment when I realized we had been promised that the police in Washington D.C. | ||
| and on Capitol Hill could handle up to a million protesters that day. | ||
| And you don't use your military for domestic law enforcement. | ||
| That's what we have cops for. | ||
| You don't use military, you don't use soldiers to do domestic law enforcement until civil society is broken down. | ||
| Like a natural disaster in New Orleans, everything's gone to, you know what? | ||
| That's when you go in there, that's when the military serves and does law enforcement duties. | ||
| Until that happens, keep the military out. | ||
| The military—you talked about Vietnam—military really violated tons of American civil liberties by spying on Americans. | ||
| These are the things that are going to— They're still doing it! | ||
| My last follow-up was going to be, many people in the Trump administration decided to resign as a result of January 6th and the events following it. | ||
| You chose not to. | ||
| Can you tell me a little bit more about that decision? | ||
| Yeah, because I wanted to get more facts. | ||
| So, you know, I had been in combat a day or two. | ||
| I'd been a leader in the military, commander in the military, and you gotta be stable. | ||
| You gotta be steady, right? | ||
| That's what good leaders do. | ||
| I saw a lot of those political figures that bailed that day doing it for political reasons. | ||
| I was like, we need to find out what happened. | ||
| We're still finding out what happened that day. | ||
| So, here's the one that always bugs me when these bigwigs talk about, well, the reason I stayed is because I had to protect something. | ||
| If it wasn't for me, I had to protect our soldiers. | ||
| I'm not saying that. | ||
| That's not what I'm saying. | ||
| I'm just saying... | ||
| That's my job. | ||
| I got six weeks left, or whatever it was. | ||
| Four weeks left. | ||
| And you know, what was that? | ||
| Was it Thomas Paine? | ||
| Sunshine? | ||
| Soldiers? | ||
| What's that? | ||
| Yeah, you know, it's like, hey, you get paid for the good times and the bad, and you really get paid for the tough times. | ||
| That's what the American people pay you for, right? | ||
| You never thought it was a coup or anything? | ||
| Dude, I was running the military. | ||
| There was no coup. | ||
| Millie was right about that. | ||
| Millie's like, you know, the only way there has to come through us, there was going to be no military coup. | ||
| Dude, I spent my life in service to this country and I swore to protect and defend the Constitution. | ||
| There's no way that I was going to allow back to your point about resigning. | ||
| If it came down to that and the president was not about He wasn't going there. | ||
| If it would have gone there, I would have resigned and gone right outside and gotten on TV and said I resigned in protest because I was asked to do something anti-constitutional. | ||
| Period. | ||
| End of story. | ||
| Bye. | ||
| That's if he asked for you to bring troops out? | ||
| No, if he was going to use them inappropriately or anti-constitutionally. | ||
| What about the—oh, I forgot the date. | ||
| Was it May 29th? | ||
| When was the—what was the insurrection? | ||
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| May 29th. | ||
| What about that? | ||
| You had these far leftists setting fire to St. | ||
| John's Church. | ||
| They set fire to a guard post at the White House. | ||
| They tore down barricades. | ||
| And the response was police. | ||
| You know, police came out, did their normal thing. | ||
| I suppose that's probably the appropriate response. | ||
| There were National Guard there. | ||
| You don't recall the National Guard flew helicopters down the middle of the streets that evening? | ||
| Oh gosh, yeah. | ||
| A lot went on. | ||
| That's not appropriate use of the military. | ||
| You don't think so? | ||
| No, that's what you have local law enforcement for. | ||
| What about when they're not doing their jobs? | ||
| I mean, in Seattle, in Portland, we saw, what was it, 120 some odd days of them? | ||
| Even New York! | ||
| They were firebombing federal buildings. | ||
| For a hundred days, far-left extremists were throwing firebombs and explosives. | ||
| Like, at that point, shouldn't the federal government act to defend its territory? | ||
| Like, its building and, like, the people who live and work in the area? | ||
| Federal government did. | ||
| They put in huge numbers of federal law enforcement to protect federal property. | ||
| The issue was the mayor was on the left side of the spectrum and was allowing that to happen. | ||
| It was a debacle. | ||
| And you've been out to Portland lately? | ||
| Oh my gosh. | ||
| But all that really happened was federal law enforcement stood inside the building And then the leftists continued to firebomb it for 100 plus days until they got bored with it and stopped. | ||
| The feds did not actually come out. | ||
| Feds were all over that town. | ||
| Don't you remember the crisis that happened? | ||
| How did it go on for 120 days? | ||
| Why did it not stop? | ||
| I believe in local government. | ||
| I don't believe the federal law enforcement should come in without Absolutely can protect federal property, but the governor has his National Guard, his or her. | ||
| They have plenty of access to security forces and law enforcement and National Guard without calling in the federal troops. | ||
| If the federal government can't stop people for three or four months from throwing firebombs at its building, then they should probably just leave. | ||
| They shouldn't be there because they're completely impotent. | ||
| I know they were there. | ||
| They did the joint unit. | ||
| They had DHS. | ||
| They had ICE. | ||
| They had a bunch of CBP or whatever were even coming, and they could do nothing to stop far-left extremists occupying the city and firebombing their building. | ||
| You can't do it. | ||
| You shouldn't be there. | ||
| It was like they sent troops into a siege, and then they just had to sit there and be sieged for 100 days. | ||
| What was the point? | ||
| It's better than having no troops in the siege. | ||
| I mean, I get it, but I think if someone commits a crime against the federal government, the federal government has a right to arrest criminals. | ||
| But hey, look, man, I guess I can just— I'll side with my libertarian friends on this one and be like, the end result of this, in my mind, the logical conclusion is... | ||
| It's a waste of taxpayer dollars to have federal law enforcement be paid to stand around for four months while people firebomb a building and they can't do anything about it. | ||
| So how about we just save ourselves the money, let the far left keep running amok and doing whatever they want, because clearly we're not stopping it. | ||
| If Portland and Seattle want that behavior, then far be it. | ||
| You're right, federal government, don't be there, shut the building down, leave. | ||
| What's the point of having a courthouse for the federal government if they're not going to arrest and convict these people anyway? | ||
| Waste of time! | ||
| Case study of what we're seeing. | ||
| Now, the interesting thing in Portland, I was out there a couple months ago, is local business is now in rebellion. | ||
| Comes back to economics, right? | ||
| Why wouldn't they? | ||
| They are clean in that town. | ||
| There's been a sea change out there with their attitude, but it was a case study of things just going out of control. | ||
| I'm with you. | ||
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| What happens if a governor requests federal troops? | ||
| Do they then owe the federal government something? | ||
| Is it like, we'll pay you back later kind of thing? | ||
| Or is it just they come and they serve for free, no questions asked? | ||
| There are loopholes, technically speaking. | ||
| There's some law that you have to pay, you know, some, but usually it all gets waived. | ||
| So if the governor would have asked for federal troops, well, first off, we would have said, have you expended all your, you know, 5,000 members of your National Guard that work for you? | ||
| He's like, I have, and I still have not gained control of city X, Y, Z. And then, yeah, federal troops would have been brought in in support. | ||
| When the George Floyd riots happened, I think it was day two, I walked into the living room where Tim was. | ||
| I was like, why have we not sent in the National Guard? | ||
| What's happening? | ||
| Why fires? | ||
| Why? | ||
| Same thing, like the feds did not want to get involved because it was a state... National Guard did go in. | ||
| The Federal National Guard did go in? | ||
| No, DC National Guard. | ||
| But the Summer of Love was all over the country. | ||
| We saw riding in towns people have never heard of. | ||
| And there's crazy videos. | ||
| There's videos of like Antifa far leftists walking through some kind of like suburban neighborhood and a bunch of young men who live in the areas came out and then countered them and chased them off. | ||
| But we had this report from Michael Tracy of these small towns in the Midwest where stores were ransacked, | ||
| windows were smashed and it was by BLM and Antifa. | ||
| And they're like putting up board spray painting, small business, please don't hurt us and things | ||
| like that. | ||
| And Tom Cotton wrote, send in the troops. | ||
| The New York Times went into revolt and Donald Trump said, no, no, no, just let the country be destroyed by far left extremists. | ||
| But every governor has their National Guard, citizen soldiers, one weekend a month. | ||
| They're part of their National Guard that they control. | ||
| And they didn't do anything. | ||
| Well, how's that the federal government's problem? | ||
| I mean, if the federal government can't do anything about national widespread far-left terrorism, then I will just revert back to the whole national divorce civil war conversation. | ||
| Because at this point, it's kind of like the federal government can do one thing. | ||
| It can steal money from your paycheck and then burn it in Ukraine. | ||
| Meanwhile, our businesses are being set on fire And we're having far-left extremists show up to our libraries, we're having adult sex performers perform for children, but I can rest assured that local government will do nothing, and the federal government will take money from my paycheck and my business and burn it in Ukraine. | ||
| I think it's about arm yourself locally. | ||
| I don't want vigilante justice, but like, if your governor won't do it, and your president won't do it, and people are getting killed outside your house, like what? | ||
| What are people supposed to do in that situation? | ||
| I've never seen that in my life, God forbid it would ever happen, but like, Just local militia? | ||
| Is that actually constitutionally legal if the governor won't step up? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| I mean, you can't go and kill someone. | ||
| You can't have a posse go just shoot someone. | ||
| But there are places that have citizen arrests and stuff like that. | ||
| Yeah, look at Georgia. | ||
| Look at the McMichaels. | ||
| When a guy is a felony burglary suspect on camera committing felony burglary and the | ||
| police go door to door and say, this is the guy committing the felony burglaries of the | ||
| past several months in your neighborhood, and then this guy is reported running down | ||
| the street. | ||
| If you pursue him and he tries to steal your shotgun and gets shot in the in the in the | ||
| conflict, you will go to prison for the rest of your life. | ||
| If you are in Wisconsin and a group of BLM extremists who have already set fire to a building twice, if they show up to your house and you brandish a shotgun, the cops will come and arrest you. | ||
| If you're in Portland and far-left extremists create an autonomous zone where they kill people, mostly in Seattle where the people were killed, The police will do nothing. | ||
| The federal government will do nothing. | ||
| But rest assured, if you, as an American citizen, defend yourself from these people, they will show up to your doorsteps and mercilessly beat you. | ||
| If you protest at the government, if you haphazardly bumble down the street in DC, where the cops open the door to the Capitol building for you and say, come on in, I don't agree with it, but I respect it, you will find yourself in solitary confinement for two years without charges. | ||
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| Where is the lie? | ||
| There is nothing lie. | ||
| There is no lie. | ||
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There's no lie. | |
| That's all true. | ||
| If working class people who are desperately trying to follow the rules are being told for the past several years, we'll take your money and leave you high and dry when the psychopaths burn your house down, and they're doing it in Georgia. | ||
| These extremists who are protesting in the forest burning houses down, flipping trucks over and shooting at cops. | ||
| We are being told over and over and over again by local government, we will do nothing for you. | ||
| We're scared of them. | ||
| We're being told by the federal government, we will do nothing for you, but rest assured, I'll say it again, they'll take our money and burn it in Ukraine. | ||
| Speaking of burning money in Ukraine, Chris, I think you said that you wanted to reduce, or we could reduce, the military budget by something like 40 or 50 percent. | ||
| What do you think about the United States' reaction to Russia invading Ukraine, and what would you have done? | ||
| What would your reaction have been had the invasion happened under your watch? | ||
| I don't like bullies, end of story. | ||
| I just, authoritarian, totalitarian doesn't work for me. | ||
| And, you know, the big difference here in Ukraine than we had burning, taking our money and literally throwing it into the fire in Iraq and Afghanistan was, and when we left, all that money, you know what we were spending a week in Iraq and Afghanistan? | ||
| Two billion dollars a week. | ||
| And the whole thing came undone as soon as we left. | ||
| Ukraine, they're willing to fight, they're willing to die, they're willing to have their infrastructure destroyed. | ||
| So I believe that having support in Ukrainian forces is in our best interest. | ||
| I got one for you. | ||
| I got one for you. | ||
| Let's go ahead, if it's so important, take that out of the DoD budget as opposed to just adding to the federal deficit. | ||
| So I'm wondering if there would be such eagerness to provide exquisite weapon systems to the Ukrainians if that money was being subtracted from the 858 billion dollars If I could get specific. | ||
| So as I understand, we've sent more money to Ukraine right now than the entirety of the Afghanistan war. | ||
| I know we just reached to the point in sending tanks where I know at the beginning of the conflict about a year ago, that wasn't even in consideration. | ||
| How far do you think we should go with weapons? | ||
| Should we send more tanks potentially? | ||
| Should we send aircraft? | ||
| Alright, so here's my problem is the nature of warfare is changing, right? | ||
| Tanks and planes aren't the answer. | ||
| We're doing the wrong thing. | ||
| We're trying to rebuild, we're trying to build them an image of our military that we have lost every war that we have fought since World War II. | ||
| I think Korea is going to go in the, I think Korea is going to go in the win column someday. | ||
| I'd actually put Korea in the win column now. | ||
| So my issue is, sending all these exquisite, wicked expensive tanks, what's a tank run for? | ||
| Let's use an aircraft. | ||
| Aircraft goes for about $120 million a piece. | ||
| Drones can go for, what's a DGI? | ||
| The Chinese DGI goes for $2,000. | ||
| I'm not going to do public math, but you guys have your computers. | ||
| $100 million divided by $2,000. | ||
| Let's go ahead, instead of giving like- 50,000. | ||
| That's a lot. | ||
| Can you imagine if you're sitting there, you're a Russian, and you're like, okay, I've got my radars up, I see one plane coming, I'm good, I can handle that because I got a bunch of missiles. | ||
| Can you imagine all of a sudden when your radar screen just goes all white and 20,000 drones are coming in on you? | ||
| We're fighting the wrong way. | ||
| That's my concern. | ||
| So we're sending all this money that it's the wrong capability. | ||
| They can create light shows with drones that take the shape of a human face and have it animate and look around, and then a hand comes out and waves. | ||
| All the drones just make the lights. | ||
| Don't you love those? | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| Imagine if they did that, but had them fly in a scatter formation carrying kilograms of explosive material or something. | ||
| The things you can do with drones and explosives, they can open up a computer, Choose every single target for 20,000 drones, and then every drone just targets windows, apartment buildings, cars. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| I think we're fighting an old-school kind of way. | ||
| Chris, isn't it a little bit contradictory, though, if you want to reduce spending by 40-50%, but you still want to send more arms to Ukraine? | ||
| So that's the thing I'm trying to argue in my book, is we can reduce spending if we rethink how we do our military operations. | ||
| Instead of a $14 billion aircraft carrier, that's $14 billion. | ||
| Instead of $1.5 trillion for the F-35 fighter, that's all Cold War stuff. | ||
| It's not going to last in a high-intensity war. | ||
| It's going to last 72 hours. | ||
| We need to rethink how we do this. | ||
| We need to go cyber. | ||
| We need to go machine learning, artificial intelligence. | ||
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| Straight into AI? | ||
| No, autonomy. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Because what Tim said was, this isn't like some Skynet thing or anything, that's not what I'm talking about. | ||
| I'm talking about being able to go, a human in the loop, but going, okay, we have 500 targets, and then you can program your stuff to go get them without having to have a person in the loop. | ||
| Like heat-seeking, so you can say, these are the parameters of what we target. | ||
| And so my big thing is return. | ||
| We've got 1 million people in uniform. | ||
| Active duty show up every day, right? | ||
| We have one million in the National Guard and Army Reserve. | ||
| That's one weekend a month, two weeks during the year. | ||
| And then we have about 700,000 civilians. | ||
| 700,000 civilians work for the Department of Defense. | ||
| My point is we can cut a huge amount of the active duty force. | ||
| I want to go back to the citizen soldier. | ||
| That's what I want. | ||
| I want to go back to the citizen soldier who lives in his community. | ||
| And you guys were talking about social unrest and everything. | ||
| I want that community to have their soldiers next to them living there. | ||
| And we don't have that as much anymore. | ||
| So that's, that's, I want to I want to ask a question. | ||
| Someone in the super chat asked this. | ||
| Do you think that the US provoked Russia through its operations in Ukraine? | ||
| I think what provoked Russia was our failure to withdraw effectively from Afghanistan and we were so feckless and it was such, now that's not to criticize anybody that was on the ground doing the work, that's not what I'm criticizing, but the failure, that was a debacle and I think Putin looked at that and I think when they open up the Politburo archives in like 50 years and they look at their National Security Council notes, they're going to go like, Wow, Putin saw that as weakness in the United States and saw that as a green light to go after. | ||
| We saw it in Taiwan. | ||
| So why did Russia go into Ukraine? | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| I think I know. | ||
| I think they want Sevastopol as a trade port. | ||
| When the Soviet Union broke up, they took it and they gave Black Sea access, like Mediterranean access to Ukraine. | ||
| They wanted to keep Russia from becoming a global economic hegemon. | ||
| But now he's trying to take Sevastopol on the freeways, East 97 and 105 that go down into there. | ||
| I watch the morning shows, you know, where they had all the retired generals. | ||
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| You used to watch that all the time. | ||
| Right, man. | ||
| And you remember last year at this time they were like, Kyiv will fall in 72 hours. | ||
| And then, of course, today they're like, oh, the freedom fighters of Ukraine. | ||
| The reason I bring this up is anybody that predicts what's going to happen over there I have no confidence. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| I think everything we've been told from everybody, you know, it's just been wrong about what the directory of the war is going to be. | ||
| Do you think it would be? | ||
| I think I think Russia obviously has its interests with Ukraine. | ||
| So it's not fair to completely blame the US operations for provoking Russia. | ||
| Russia wanted like like he was saying Sevastopol, Crimea, Donbass region, regardless of what the US was doing. | ||
| What ultimately happens is I think Vladimir Putin laments the fact that they lost Ukraine with the fall of the Soviet Union. | ||
| They want access. | ||
| They have operations in Crimea. | ||
| And then both the US and Russia are engaged in influence operations in Ukraine in an attempt to win the favor of the Ukrainian people. | ||
| But it seemed like, for the most part, the majority of the country was moving towards NATO and the EU. | ||
| Even when I went there, that's what I saw. | ||
| The people in Kiev were like, we want access to Europe. | ||
| Europe was wealth for these people. | ||
| They said if we get Schengen zone, if Ukraine becomes a part of the Schengen zone and we can freely travel and work, our standard of living is going to skyrocket. | ||
| Our wealth will skyrocket. | ||
| Russia's offer with the Federal Trade Union was not that appealing to them. | ||
| Of course, you get the ousting of Yanukovych, U.S. | ||
| involvement to whatever degree. | ||
| You've got Joe Biden, Burisma, Energy Operations competing with Russia. | ||
| Both the U.S., NATO, Russia have heavy interests. | ||
| Russia moved in because the U.S. | ||
| was winning the conflict. | ||
| There was a cold war with Ukraine before there was a hot war. | ||
| Russia turned it hot because the U.S. | ||
| was winning it. | ||
| Well, they annexed Crimea, which potentially could have went hot, but they didn't. | ||
| They just let it happen, and then because of the influence... That's the line. | ||
| The annexation of Crimea was the line between cold and hot. | ||
| They brought in military into the region. | ||
| There was not a lot of fighting, but they took that land. | ||
| Then it went hot in the Donbass region. | ||
| Donald Trump gets elected. | ||
| Everything kind of simmers a little bit down. | ||
| Do you think if we would have reacted differently to this seizure of Crimea in 2014, That this situation would be different. | ||
| Oh, in what way? | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| Because Obama, we didn't do jack. | ||
| We let him take it. | ||
| And, you know, maybe we were too concerned about something. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| The U.S. | ||
| should have declared a no-fly zone. | ||
| Well, so there's a couple ways I look at this. | ||
| First, my principle morals are if they cannot justify to me and the American people why we should be spending money and being involved in Ukraine, it shouldn't happen in the first place. | ||
| Strategically, Obama should have declared a no-fly zone instantly over the Donbass region and Ukraine, which Ukrainians would have supported outright, and that would have prevented Russia from aggressing in the first place because that would be a direct act of war against the United States. | ||
| When it came to their buildup on the border a year ago, before the invasion, I and many other people were like, the US strategically should have declared a no-fly zone before Russia invaded, because then Russia's move would have been an act of aggression against the US, putting them in a very difficult position. | ||
| Instead, we have a Biden who sits on his hands and does nothing, and the military apparatus around him. | ||
| Russia moves in, and now our hands are tied. | ||
| Now we're sinking money into a toilet. | ||
| And it's just, like you were saying, what, more money than Afghanistan? | ||
| Yeah, so far. | ||
| In 20 years of Afghanistan, too. | ||
| In 20 years of Vietnam, even. | ||
| Crystal Ball was talking about this. | ||
| It is a strategic nightmare. | ||
| So this is a component of why I'm like, we should not be in this conflict. | ||
| We should have nothing to do with it. | ||
| We have, I mean, Ian, we surrender Afghanistan. | ||
| It's a disaster. | ||
| You mentioned. | ||
| Putin sees this and he's like, wow, now's my opportunity. | ||
| It has been just, look man, you know, everybody knows I've been playing poker recently. | ||
| You get a bad hand, you fold. | ||
| If you don't, and the most important lesson you can learn is if you're the eighth best player in the world and you're at a table with the seven other best players in the world, you're the sucker, get out. | ||
| The US should have seen everything that was going on and been like, you know, we're really bad at this and we're going to lose. | ||
| Cut your losses, leave, we shouldn't be involved. | ||
| Chris, I want to ask you about, um, so I understand that the arguments that people make for helping out in Ukraine, frequently there's something along the lines of, well, you know, if you don't stop Putin, he's going to keep going and he's going to take, he's going to try to, to bring back the Soviet Union, et cetera. | ||
| And those arguments to me are not compelling at all. | ||
| And that's just because NATO, what's wrong with waiting? | ||
| to for NATO to actually get involved until there's an actual threat to a NATO country. | ||
| There was a reason why Ukraine is not in NATO now. | ||
| And this is literally it, if I understand correctly. | ||
| NATO didn't want Ukraine because they didn't want to directly have a conflict with Russia. | ||
| And that's what we're getting at right now. | ||
| If we if we continue to support Ukraine, at some point, there's going to be dead NATO | ||
| soldiers. | ||
| And then there's going to be people talking about Article 5. | ||
| And I don't see the off ramp at all right now. | ||
| I don't see how we avoid that because we keep we keep committing to indefinite support until | ||
| the you know, until Russia's beaten. | ||
| And we and the realistic perspective is Russia is only going to be beaten if they choose | ||
| to be because they do have nuclear weapons. | ||
| So I don't see where the off ramp is. | ||
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| With us supporting Ukraine the way that we are. | ||
| What are your thoughts on that? | ||
| NATO, President Trump is right, can't freeload anymore. | ||
| Good on NATO. | ||
| Good on NATO for all those years after World War II, where we bankrolled their security. | ||
| Cold War's been over, what, 30 years? | ||
| Some say it never ended, just switched to China. | ||
| Oh yeah, good point. | ||
| Oh, that's a good one. | ||
| Oh, we could go someplace on that one. | ||
| Talking about the military-industrial complex. | ||
| So, the Poles, when I went over there, I was over there six, eight weeks after the war started. | ||
| The Poles went to this university, right? | ||
| And gave a lecture to some international affairs class. | ||
| It was interesting. | ||
| The leadership of the university got a sidebar with me and said, should we evacuate and set up an alternate university? | ||
| I said, why? | ||
| They're like, because we think we're going to get a nuclear weapon strikes coming in. | ||
| They were petrified. | ||
| Now your point about, you know, do you think Putin You think Putin would make a move on a NATO country? | ||
| I don't, and that's why I think... I don't think so either. | ||
| That's existential for him. | ||
| Exactly, and that's why I think that, as harsh as this is going to sound to a lot of people, we should keep our nose out of Ukraine because I don't see Putin actually making an attack on a NATO country because that isn't that's that just I don't see any benefit for for Putin to do that. | ||
| It's it to actually try to engage in a war with NATO. | ||
| If there's a lack of NATO unity, then I could see him invading Estonia or Latvia and then posing the question to the American public and Europeans. | ||
| Are you guys really willing to fight and die for Estonia? | ||
| Because that's what a lot of people in the United States would be asking. | ||
| And if you guys ask me that, I don't know how I would respond. | ||
| Do you think American soldiers should die in Estonia if Russia invades? | ||
| That's the question. | ||
| You just nailed it. | ||
| They died in Germany. | ||
| I don't know if the American public is ready to answer that question. | ||
| If Russia was willing to take that, Chris, would you? | ||
| Oh no, you guys go ahead. | ||
| You're the Secretary of Defense. | ||
| I would not die for the Estonian people at the moment. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| I love you people. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| And I'm here for you in my own way. | ||
| I'm not shooting people for you. | ||
| But I think Putin's disincentivized of attacking NATO countries because he needs Turkey. | ||
| He doesn't. | ||
| Let's be clear. | ||
| He does not have the ass right now. | ||
| There is this great statement that I heard when we were losing in Iraq the second or third time. | ||
| I can't remember what time it was. | ||
| Great powers should never fight small wars because one of two things happens. | ||
| One is they win and they look like a complete bully and everybody gangs up against them. | ||
| Or two, they don't win and you show you're... Blood in the water. | ||
| You're feckless. | ||
| Everybody goes, wow, that's a paper tiger. | ||
| I don't think Russia, they do not have the combat capability right now to do anything. | ||
| I mean, so, why are you? | ||
| They got them nukes, though. | ||
| Oh, so, right, so I'm all about strategic defense initiative, you know, Star Wars. | ||
| We were talking technology earlier. | ||
| Dude, I think we have the ability to put that, you know, we were talking earlier about putting the bubble around? | ||
| I think we can do that, so I'm like, fine. | ||
| Strategic defense initiative. | ||
| Star Wars, remember? | ||
| Everybody made fun of Reagan, like, this guy's a complete lunatic. | ||
| The problem with defensive bubbles is things that come straight down pierce the bubble, or a better chance to pierce the bubble, like hypersonic straight down. | ||
| The real issue is Russia probably has invested in cyber warfare more than anything else. | ||
| Well, information operations too, with their pot farms and everything. | ||
| Yes, but I think the bigger issue is Russia probably has the capability of blowing up an oil refinery in a minute. | ||
| Cyber security is nigh impossible. | ||
| It's very easy to attack, it's extremely difficult to defend. | ||
| You have so many attack vectors throughout the country, You you won't even it's impossible to shore up defenses, because you don't know which of the tens of thousands of industrial plants to protect. | ||
| And you can start by trying to protect all of them, update every single one. | ||
| But even when you do, eventually someone will find a new exploit. | ||
| The military, the Russians, will every single day be trying to find a way to break through, and they will find it. | ||
| And then they can do who knows what. | ||
| What do you think, ethically, about a general armistice with the Russian army, like, in eastern Ukraine? | ||
| Because what I think is happening is they want that Black Sea port. | ||
| They want to be able to ship into the Mediterranean and sell steel to the world. | ||
| The United States, everybody. | ||
| Everybody. | ||
| And that means an alliance with Turkey, which means an alliance with NATO. | ||
| So the end goal seems very positive for everyone involved, except for the fact that the Ukrainians would have to cede the Eastern Territory, the Donbass or the Southern Donbass. | ||
| But do you think that that's a reasonable de-escalation tactic? | ||
| You're triggering me and this is where the American hypocrisy bothers me that There's this idea that somehow we can dictate terms. | ||
| The Ukrainians get to decide and the Russians get to decide. | ||
| And we can stop giving them money. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| If we stop giving them money and we stop giving them stuff, they're not going to stop fighting. | ||
| And it's going to go old school. | ||
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| Ukrainians have shown that they, the biggest change I saw from when you were over there, right, it used to be about 50-50 split, 50% were like, let's go Russia way, 50%, let's go to the East, let's go to the West. | ||
| Leaning Western, but. | ||
| Dude, last time over there, man, the hatred, I'm sure it's like 90%. | ||
| Yeah, the Donbas and all that, they're obviously, That's trade space. | ||
| We all know that. | ||
| But my point is, we're not going to get to decide that. | ||
| The Ukrainians get to decide that. | ||
| How do wars win? | ||
| Or how do wars end? | ||
| Exhaustion. | ||
| And those two countries don't seem to be exhausted yet. | ||
| Yeah, but Ukraine is... Look, Russia's got its problems militaristically, but Ukraine's only able to do anything because of NATO support. | ||
| If we were not providing them with weapons and intelligence, they would have been flattened in a week. | ||
| I totally disagree. | ||
| The way that, and that's part of my book actually, is we talked about how we should need to fight differently. | ||
| When the Russians came down from the north to try to capture Kiev, and what did you have? | ||
| You had like babushka women out there, you know, slapping plastic explosives on freaking Russian tanks. You had little hunter-killer teams | ||
| with their pickup truck and anti-tank guns. | ||
| That's my point. They're absolutely capable of defending themselves, even if we pulled everything | ||
| It'd get a lot worse, don't get me wrong. | ||
| That's a great argument for us to pull everything out and back off, because if that's the case, then I see no reason for us to be wasting time. | ||
| What are we gaining from it? | ||
| What do we get? | ||
| I want to ask you that. | ||
| Why would we bail? | ||
| Why would we pull out when we can fix the Russian war machine in an interminable war? | ||
| What do you mean fix the Russian war machine? | ||
| They're stuck right now. | ||
| They can't do anything else. | ||
| So what do IAEA as a tax-paying American citizen gain from everything we've done in Ukraine? | ||
| Well, I kind of am a Ronald Reagan kind of conservative who believes in peace through strength, and I don't like bullies and authoritarian regimes. | ||
| And I think I get tired of the cliché about this. | ||
| What about Pakistan? | ||
| Should we get involved in the China dispute with India? | ||
| I get tired of that cliché about Munich and whatever year it was. | ||
| But, I mean, where does it end? | ||
| We have to stay in some place. | ||
| And these people are willing to fight and die. | ||
| There's not a single American troop in harm's way. | ||
| What's our dispute with Russia? | ||
| Well, they're an authoritarian totalitarian regime that has designs on conquest. | ||
| So why aren't we involved in the China dispute with, I think it's India, right? | ||
| Why aren't we involved in that dispute? | ||
| They're taking care of themselves. | ||
| So, I thought you said the Ukrainians could take care of themselves. | ||
| Yeah, they can. | ||
| So why are we there? | ||
| Why not? | ||
| All they need is some material. | ||
| But we've got U.S. | ||
| personnel on the ground. | ||
| We've got special forces operating there. | ||
| No, we don't. | ||
| Yes, we do. | ||
| Intercept. | ||
| Prove it. | ||
| I'll pull it up right now. | ||
| Special forces have been operating for a long time. | ||
| The internet is so legit. | ||
| Chris. | ||
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| This was a big story. | ||
| Come on, Chris. | ||
| Come on, you know that they're... Even if there's no evidence there, you know they're there. | ||
| I mean, you can call The Intercept fake news. | ||
| Will the Biden administration shine light on shadowy special ops programs? | ||
| Let me, uh... No, that's programs. | ||
| That's an old story. | ||
| That's an old story. | ||
| Yeah, right. | ||
| Let me, uh... The Intercept reported this a while ago. | ||
| Let me, uh... | ||
| There's American volunteers, I'm pretty sure, but that's because they're volunteers. | ||
| They're volunteers. | ||
| I suspect there are small numbers. | ||
| Last time I was there, I'm telling you, other than at the embassy doing embassy work, there were no U.S. | ||
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| They were in Poland. | ||
| They were military inspectors at the very least. | ||
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| I don't like bullies. | ||
| The United States bullied Iraq and Afghanistan for two decades. | ||
| I feel like now we have Iraq. | ||
| Russia's going to take eastern Ukraine. | ||
| China's going to take Taiwan. | ||
| There, every warmonger wins. | ||
| Now we're the three strongest countries on earth again. | ||
| Can we just be peaceful and calm? | ||
| Russia, by the way, Russians consider they want calm. | ||
| Americans talk about peace and peace through secret U.S. | ||
| operations inside Ukraine are being conducted under a presidential covert action finding, | ||
| current and former officials said. | ||
| The finding indicates that the president has quietly notified certain congressional leaders | ||
| about the administration's decision to conduct a broad program of clandestine operations inside | ||
| the country, one former special forces officer said. The Biden amended a pre-existing finding, | ||
| originally approved during the Obama administration, that was designed to counter malign | ||
| foreign influence activities. A former CIA officer told the intercept that Biden's use of pre-existing | ||
| finding has frustrated some intelligence officials who believe that the U.S. involvement in Ukraine | ||
| conflict differs so much from the spirit of the finding that should merit a new one, blah blah. | ||
| This is from October 2022. | ||
| This was a big deal. | ||
| Ken Klippenstein and James Risen reported this for The Intercept and it got syndicated basically everywhere. | ||
| I think the New York Times picked it up. | ||
| We have the U.S. | ||
| as active personnel in the country. | ||
| The argument is, are they engaged in direct conflict or are they doing infrastructure, logistics, and support regardless? | ||
| I have not heard an argument. | ||
| And it's not been justified to me why we're providing weapons, funding, and personnel in any capacity. | ||
| The U.S. | ||
| provided the weapons and the intelligence to the Ukrainians they used to destroy the Russian flagship in the Black Sea. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Why are we at war with Russia? | ||
| They've not given us any real reason. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| Russia's an adversary. | ||
| Obama called them a regional power. | ||
| Russia does deals with other countries. | ||
| It interferes with us in terms of the energy market that we're trying to build with Europe, the Qatar-Turkey pipeline. | ||
| So if the real reason is that we have engaged in war in Ukraine because we want cheap energy into Europe so that Europe can build up its economy as a means to counteract the growth of China, Sure, I understand that. | ||
| I don't see that as a good enough reason. | ||
| Russia is engaged in legitimate energy trade. | ||
| We are pissed off about it because we want Europe to expand and they're our allies. | ||
| So we decide to support a war against Bashar al-Assad and Russia? | ||
| It just seems like psychotic, world-ending policy, especially when you consider that Russia They're not going to roll over. | ||
| This conflict is going to get worse. | ||
| So this all... Look, I can talk about how far back this goes, but as a 36, nearly 37-year-old man... Give me a couple weeks, my birthday's coming up. | ||
| I can talk to you about the extent to which I entered this and have vast ignorance of the long-standing conflict. | ||
| But what we know is Europe has made the argument, or I should say the European Union argument is, they need a strong economic bloc because China is growing too rapidly. | ||
| They need to be able to counter that. | ||
| Russia controls a large portion of the energy flowing into Europe and charges them an arm and a leg. | ||
| The US and European organizations, institutions wanted to build a pipeline through Syria, through Turkey, the Qatar-Turkey pipeline. | ||
| Syria said no, because we're in it for Russia. | ||
| Surprise, surprise! | ||
| I'll just leave it at this. | ||
| The country destabilizes. | ||
| The U.S. | ||
| provides military support to certain rebel factions. | ||
| ISIS expands rapidly. | ||
| And then we see the conflict escalating with Ukraine, all of it surrounding energy. | ||
| You've got the Gazprom gas monopoly through Ukraine. | ||
| You've got Burisma with Joe Biden. | ||
| All of these things centered around getting cheap energy to allow European expansion. | ||
| Thus, it ultimately comes down to, in my opinion, there is a great global conflict. | ||
| It's never ended. | ||
| The Cold War turns into something else. | ||
| But if the argument is, Europe needs cheap energy, so we are going to go fight in Ukraine to cause problems to Russia, so that as the war expands, if Russia does team up with China, they'll be substantially weakened, I'm like, oh, you're basically saying World War III is coming, we want it, we're involved in it, we're not going to back down. | ||
| Okay, not a good enough reason for me, I gotta be honest. | ||
| I'm being told either, trust me when I spend all of your money, more than we've spent anywhere else, on this war in Ukraine, and it will probably lead to World War III. | ||
| I'm being told that's the path we're going to take, and I'm not going to give you a legitimate justification for why we're doing it. | ||
| My attitude is just, okay, well then I'm going to advocate against it every step of the way, because if you can't justify it, the American people should not be giving you support for it. | ||
| I think that if it's this old British Empire tactic of keeping the Germans and Russians separate, if the Germans and Russians create an alliance, you have like a European-Asian superpower in China, Russia, India, Germany. | ||
| Then, after 20 years, the United States is the bitch of the realm. | ||
| And we lost the war through ineptitude and inactivity. | ||
| Whereas right now, they're trying to prevent this Hitler's invasion of Poland all over again. | ||
| They're like, we're getting in early. | ||
| We're not going to let him take France. | ||
| That's a tough question. | ||
| The question being, should the U.S. | ||
| dominate the world? | ||
| Should they, Elad? | ||
| Well, I think it's a cheap price for Putin's foot soldiers, and China has no limit, I think, no limit to their relationship with Russia. | ||
| People are right in saying that it's a proxy war, but it's not a proxy war between the United States and Russia. | ||
| It's a proxy war between the United States and China. | ||
| Chris, what do you think? | ||
| Wow, you just always bring it back in. | ||
| I'm telling you, this guy's doing the real interview. | ||
| And the mustache is nice looking. | ||
| I think the Chinese are laughing all the way to the bank right now, and I know this week the whole story is like, the Chinese and the Russians are combining, which is horrifying, yes, but 2,500 mile border between Russia and China, China I think is probably going I love the fact that the entire Russian army is committed and stuck in Ukraine because last time I checked, you guys are experts on this, the Chinese have lots of problems with natural resources which all are just north of there. | ||
| I gotta think they're just sitting there going, oh we're taking the long view, we love the fact that the Russians are getting bled. | ||
| It's horrifying if you're a Russian soldier or mercenary. | ||
| Holy cow, you drew a bad lot on that one. | ||
| But I think the Chinese are just absolutely like, we couldn't have asked for a better setup. | ||
| We've got everybody focused over here and we can just continue to do what we need to do. | ||
| And they'll likely, I think, move into Taiwan at some point soon. | ||
| I think that balloon is a literal trial balloon. | ||
| The way I describe it is, when you're robbing a liquor store, you don't care that the gun you have is illegal because you're committing a worse crime. | ||
| China, I think, is getting ready for action in Taiwan, so they don't care if we're pissed about a balloon. | ||
| They're preparing for something much worse. | ||
| You think they can take Taiwan? | ||
| They absolutely could take Taiwan. | ||
| The question is, what losses are they willing to sustain in doing so? | ||
| Yeah, and what would Taiwan look like afterwards? | ||
| Would it even be there? | ||
| I think they get ashore and then they get stuck. | ||
| Chris, let me follow up and ask you. | ||
| So you were acting Secretary of Defense during a time that was going to transition, which is supposedly the most militaristically vulnerable time for a nation. | ||
| During the Trump administration, we were still under the strategic ambiguity on whether or not we would defend Taiwan. | ||
| But Joe Biden, some people are calling him a blabbering idiot when he says this, but he takes away strategic ambiguity because he says that we will defend Taiwan. | ||
| Could you give us some insights on what was happening under the Trump administration, how we would have reacted to China trying to invade Taiwan, and what do you think about Joe Biden saying now that we would defend Taiwan? | ||
| Well, remember the international school of of international affairs has this thing called the madman | ||
| theory. | ||
| You know, they said Nixon was like, he was playing the madman, like he's unstable. | ||
| Well, that's actually a valid concept for how to deal with foreign adversaries. | ||
| And of course, many people in the world thought Trump was using the same thing. | ||
| He was using that madman theory. | ||
| So everybody asks, what would have happened? | ||
| I don't think they would have taken a car. | ||
| You tried that balloon. | ||
| That was a probe of our defenses. | ||
| I'm with you 110%. | ||
| you 110 percent. Pure and simple. And I don't think the thing with the Biden, you said it's strategic | ||
| It's actually more muddled now. | ||
| Because you have the President of the United States says that we're going to defend Taiwan. | ||
| And then you have the Secretary of State says, oh, whoa, no change in policy. | ||
| And then the Secretary of Defense says the same thing. | ||
| So I think that the Chinese are like, we don't know what the hell's going on. | ||
| It came from the President's mouth, though. | ||
| He said it three times. | ||
| He was in office for longer than I've been alive. | ||
| I think he knows. | ||
| Am I naive to take him at his word when he says that we would defend Taiwan? | ||
| Do you not think China's taking him at his word? | ||
| I don't, I don't know. | ||
| I don't think we have enough insight into what's going on in China to tell you the truth. | ||
| I was just, my point was, They could get ashore, but I cannot imagine a scenario where the Chinese take a crack at Taiwan. | ||
| Is Taiwan just massively defended, just entrenched tunnels? | ||
| No, it's just the terrain is so rough. | ||
| There are only three beaches they can land on, and then they can get ashore. | ||
| They can get ashore, I'm with you, but then what do you do? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's a big island. | ||
| It's a big piece of land. | ||
| But China could take it, but it would be very, very expensive. | ||
| And you don't want to destroy it. | ||
| In terms of lives and resources. | ||
| And right. | ||
| And destroying it. | ||
| What's the point of taking something that turns into a smoldering rock? | ||
| They want its resources. | ||
| They want its IP. | ||
| They want the chip manufacturing. | ||
| You don't think it's just because they're like, this is part of China and we don't care if it- Partly. | ||
| I think there's a lot of ideology in there because that's where the- That's real China. | ||
| Yeah, well, that's where the capitalist, that's where they escaped to when the CCP took over. | ||
| Yeah, during the Boxer Rebellion. | ||
| Well, this is back in the late 1800s, the Boxer Rebellion. | ||
| I mean, that's where the drug, they pushed them all the way to the east. | ||
| No, no, no, he's talking about the Cultural Revolution and all that. | ||
| The Republic of China fled to Taiwan and stayed there. | ||
| Shanghai Shack, right? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| And it was actually, I'm pretty sure that, was it the U.N.? | ||
| Foreign governments, I think the U.S. | ||
| recognized Taiwan as the real government of China up until a certain point, I think, I remember it was 70-something, Nixon? | ||
| Yeah, Nixon went over there with Kissinger and they cut a deal to end that. | ||
| Yeah, like China is now the province and we cut diplomatic relations and all that stuff with them. | ||
| Awful. | ||
| It was before that, it was the British were attempting to colonize China, and they pushed them off the continent and just onto the islands. | ||
| That was at the end of the 1800s. | ||
| But remember, the reason the Nixon administration cut the deal is we needed to get out of Vietnam. | ||
| So there was a quid pro quo, and they also were like, the Soviets, we've got to counter them. | ||
| I'm not familiar with that story about China. | ||
| That's why Nixon went to China. | ||
| I have to look into that. | ||
| I think we should just start behaving as though World War III has already ended and then get a homestead, get some goats and chickens. | ||
| That's why I think about alliance with Russia, not in the sense of a military alliance against someone. | ||
| I'm saying that wars can end and immediately go back to normalcy, like a white peace can be declared and economics are immediately struck back up, infrastructures rebuilt, people, they speak the same language, you know, like the Russians and Ukrainians are basically the same people. | ||
| It's like Canadians and Americans. | ||
| We're all like, it'd be crazy for us to be at odds. | ||
| I mean, they speak a different language. | ||
| Ukrainian and Russian are not the same language. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| The Slavic languages have an overlap, right? | ||
| Cyrillic alphabet, they have the same alphabet. | ||
| Romance languages can somewhat understand each other, you know, their Latin root or whatever. | ||
| So Eastern European languages have a similar root. | ||
| But I could certainly see the conflict ending and then it's, within a day, back to normal. | ||
| Like, people do not want to kill each other. | ||
| It's not like a desire, a deep human desire. | ||
| Yeah, they mostly don't. | ||
| They mostly don't. | ||
| The psychological trauma soldiers develop from having to kill other people. | ||
| Like the story from Vietnam that the troops were shooting over the heads of the Viet Cong because they really just, people don't want to kill each other. | ||
| It's a sad reality of war, man. | ||
| There's truth to that, but there's also the fact that atrocities that happen to POWs and stuff like that, they happen for a reason. | ||
| And that's because the people that do the capturing just lost their buddies or whatever | ||
| to the guys they just captured. | ||
| When you're standing there looking at a guy that is on the opposing side and you've got him, | ||
| they surrender or whatever, and your platoon was decimated. | ||
| So one out of 10 dudes is gone. | ||
| You lost four or five guys or whatever in the past week. | ||
| And one of them was your friend and whatever. | ||
| And you've got those dudes in your power. | ||
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People get real evil real quick. | |
| That was that My Lai Massacre in Vietnam is an example of that. | ||
| I think they killed 200 civilians. | ||
| They went in with helicopter gunships, and there was a captain that issued the order, we're just going to torch and kill everyone here, and they murdered And no one got any kind of jail time for it. | ||
| The one guy, the captain got in trouble but then was pardoned by Nixon. | ||
| Cali. | ||
| Cali was his name? | ||
| He was a lieutenant. | ||
| Lieutenant! | ||
| Captain Medina. | ||
| You know, we learned this, that's educated and trained into every single soldier that goes into the army. | ||
| You learn about that, about ethical reasoning and how this is what happens when you lose control. | ||
| We talked about accountability and leadership. | ||
| That's why leadership is so critical. | ||
| Hey, I'll tell you what, you're pretty amped when you come off the objective and you've taken some casualties and you grab a hold of your targets. | ||
| Yeah, it gets pretty amped, but we take that pretty seriously. | ||
| Sometimes things go wrong, but man, we teach that. | ||
| It's the lieutenant that gave the order? | ||
| That's Cali as the lieutenant? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he's the one that got put on, what, a death sentence and then commuted the sentence? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then the captain was... Life in prison or something. | ||
| They commuted it. | ||
| Medina. | ||
| Because remember, ultimately, if you're a commander, if you're a boss, you're responsible for everything that does and doesn't happen. | ||
| There were generals and there were colonels involved that did not do the right thing. | ||
| When they identified that there had been a massacre, they did the cover-up. | ||
| So it just got really... | ||
| War's ugly for a lot of reasons, and that's one of them. | ||
| I mean, taking prisoners can be really, really, really rough. | ||
| Friendly fire, too, is not talked about enough. | ||
| It's like 35% of casualties are friendly fire. | ||
| It's rough. | ||
| I don't know the real numbers, but that's what I've heard. | ||
| Dude, and I think it was a guy in a helicopter, it was like a gunship pilot. | ||
| He sat down. | ||
| Yeah, and pointed the guns at the Americans. | ||
| It was like, you are not going to kill these people. | ||
| Do you realize he's passed now? | ||
| He received, like 30 years after that, because he was ostracized for not being a team player, that helicopter pilot. | ||
| He was finally awarded for his heroism. | ||
| That's like, that's moral courage, right? | ||
| And he finally was awarded towards the end of his life. | ||
| This happened in the 2000s. | ||
| But, you know, geez, yeah, it's tragic. | ||
| But Vietnam is... I'm fortunate to have grown up with a dad that was in the Navy to avoid getting into the jungle. | ||
| His cousin, I think it was his cousin, got shot down in a helicopter. | ||
| Just horror stories, you know? | ||
| And parents with no legs of my friends that had been in the jungle. | ||
| It's really people should educate themselves on Vietnam and listen to stories of Vietnam veterans that there's videos of them on the internet telling for an hour talking about either they were captured, what it was like to be in a foxhole in the dark for two weeks. | ||
| What's your favorite movie? | ||
| My favorite movie of all time? | ||
| No, Vietnam movie. | ||
| Come on, Apocalypse Now has to hold up. | ||
| It's good it's slow, though. | ||
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I know. | |
| Do you think you could make Apocalypse Now? | ||
| Because I think the audience would be like, this is so boring. | ||
| Well, the acting was amazing. | ||
| Do all of those movies have Fortunate Son in them? | ||
| Yeah, they have to. | ||
| Forrest Gump? | ||
| Is that one? | ||
| I love Forrest Gump. | ||
| Forrest Gump's great. | ||
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What about Platoon? | |
| Does that have Fortunate Son in it? | ||
| Forrest Gump? | ||
| I think so. | ||
| That's the one. | ||
| Family Guy made the joke where Quagmire was talking about being in Vietnam and he was like, you know, it was horrible. | ||
| The temperature. | ||
| The people, the conflict, Fortunate Son playing non-stop, and then it shows them on a boat and it's playing Fortunate Son. | ||
| The smell, a lot of the soldiers will say one of the biggest things is when you land, you get off the thing, it's 104 degrees and it smells. | ||
| It just stinks. | ||
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They used to say that about the Japanese islands in World War II, just because of the heat, and they just sit there. | |
| No one's cleaning these bodies up, especially not during World War II. | ||
| What other, there's Platoon, Apocalypse Now, what else? | ||
| What else we got? | ||
| Go Tell it to the Spartans. | ||
| Full Metal Jacket. | ||
| Full Metal Jacket. | ||
| Right, that's the one I was thinking of next. | ||
| Oh, come on. | ||
| Full Metal is, that holds up. | ||
| That's got Fortunate Son in it too, I'm pretty sure, right? | ||
| I think it does. | ||
| I'm sure you're right. | ||
| Creed's Clearwater Revival. | ||
| You do that at your shows? | ||
| No. | ||
| You could do like a thrash version of that. | ||
| That would be awesome. | ||
| You could do that song as a metal song. | ||
| I mean, we did Garth Brooks, so. | ||
| What did you do for Garth Brooks? | ||
| The Thunder Rolls. | ||
| I gotta hear that. | ||
| Came out great. | ||
| I got a gold record out of it. | ||
| It was nice. | ||
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Oh, wow. | |
| Well, let's go to Super Chats! | ||
| If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends. | ||
| Become a member at TimCast.com to support our work. | ||
| We got a new show. | ||
| It's called The Culture War with Tim Pool. | ||
| Friday mornings, when we record it, goes up at 1 p.m. | ||
| And this show exists because we've had many inquiries for guests who can't They're not necessarily news commentary and culture commentary people, but they have interesting stories and things to talk about. | ||
| So, this is more of just a conversational show. | ||
| We had Ollie London, surprisingly, knows a whole lot about modern politics and news, so I was like, oh, okay, maybe we were wrong about this guy. | ||
| But we do have some upcoming musical guests who have dealt with the culture war, and we'll talk about vax minutes and things like that coming up. | ||
| Plus, we got some good guests coming. | ||
| It's going to be very different. | ||
| But good conversation, so check out youtube.com slash timcast, where the show is now live, and we'll have clips from the show coming up all throughout the next week. | ||
| Let's read those superchats! | ||
| Sir Elliot says, buck buck! | ||
| For those that are fans of Chicken City, um, we've got a bully in the Chicken City. | ||
| And Kim had to treat several of the chickens today, including Roberto Jr., who was, uh, his leg was bleeding or something. | ||
| And Margaret had blood on her, and then she had to clean it and tend to them. | ||
| A mystery! | ||
| Has the culprit been? | ||
| People think they know. | ||
| There's a camera on it all the time. | ||
| We know which chicken is doing it. | ||
| We just need to watch the footage. | ||
| And then I guess that chicken's going to get sent to chicken jail or something. | ||
| Deservably. | ||
| Alright, Sideways2013 says, avid VTuber fan. | ||
| Just correcting from earlier, most are mid-20s range women trying to keep their identity obscured and just want to be cute anime girls. | ||
| What's VTube? | ||
| It's a Twitch streamer who has an anime character that moves and talks. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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All right. | |
| Oh, here, We Are Soldiers. | ||
| That's another one? | ||
| I haven't seen that. | ||
| Oh, best! | ||
| Best movie. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Pat Dry says, I'd like to make sure Ian knows his Art of the Raw Deal performance was pure gold. | ||
| I've watched it so many times and still laugh. | ||
| Love you, Ian. | ||
| Oh, thanks, man. | ||
| If you haven't seen it, it's on youtube.com slash castcastle. | ||
| And it's Ian, the host of the show, Rian with Ian. | ||
| Who secretly recorded Roberto Jr., was it? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| On the phone because of the contract he was offered. | ||
| Offered him 50 million chip coins. | ||
| Kellan's in it as well. | ||
| Plays a lot of producer. | ||
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That's right, yeah. | |
| Check it out, Cass Castle. | ||
| All right, where we at? | ||
| Raymond G. Stanley Jr. | ||
| says, Tim, that was excellent today. | ||
| Everyone agrees. | ||
| The bestest new culture war show. | ||
| Ali's story and future activism will be important. | ||
| Who came up with acceptance turns into requirement? | ||
| I dig. | ||
| That is just something I said. | ||
| I said tolerance becomes acceptance and acceptance turns into requirement. | ||
| Like how luxuries like cell phones at some point turned into a requirement. | ||
| But yes, Ali London's story's crazy. | ||
| He was trans-Korean, a transgender Korean woman. | ||
| He's a British male. | ||
| Who was living in this world of all of this identity stuff. | ||
| And so he started getting surgery to be a Korean person because he wanted to be Korean. | ||
| He wanted to look like a K-pop star. | ||
| And then ultimately decided, he said this, he said, I'm still not happy after getting all the surgery. | ||
| Maybe it is transgender. | ||
| That's the answer. | ||
| Started doing facial feminization and moving in that direction and then finally had a realization. | ||
| He said, how much more surgery do I have to get and when does this stop? | ||
| And then stopped and started reflecting on his life. | ||
| And then he realized it had to come from within and this wasn't making him happy. | ||
| It was only making things worse. | ||
| And then he did a complete 180 and now he's detransitioned. | ||
| He's writing a book about it saying people need to find themselves and not look for validation from others. | ||
| Really interesting conversation. | ||
| It's like two hours long. | ||
| Check it out. | ||
| YouTube.com slash Timcast, or I think it's on Apple and Spotify, The Culture War Podcast with Tim Pool. | ||
| It must have been pretty motivating. | ||
| I'll watch it, but that must, like, he went through that whole process and ended up with, like, you gotta be yourself. | ||
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| And don't try to be something that someone else wants you to be. | ||
| Is that kind of what you're saying? | ||
| And he said he regrets that it took, he got all of this surgery done that altered himself before he finally realized it. | ||
| Well, ease your regrets, man, because that story's going to help a lot of people and probably keep people from having to go through what you went through. | ||
| And the funny thing is, I was like, when you were doing this trans Korean stuff, where, like, conservatives attacking you and threatening you, I was like, no. | ||
| And I was like, you didn't get people insulting you? | ||
| And he's like, not really. | ||
| And then I'm like, when you detransitioned? | ||
| Oh, the left sending death threats and hate. | ||
| They're trying to get him banned. | ||
| He's been canceled from shows. | ||
| They're just trying to destroy his life in Korea. | ||
| And I'm like, oh, I'm not surprised. | ||
| It's crazy, but uh, youtube.com slash Tim cats if you wanna watch it. I do think it was it was | ||
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I I had a fun time talking to him. All right, let's see what we got here | |
| Sweet beat says can this recent crazy weather be a type of intentional malicious weather warfare? | ||
| When you were the acting secretary of defense did you get briefed on any kind of weather weapons that may exist? Yeah | ||
| If only. | ||
| Biggest regret, Tim. | ||
| You know, they brief you on, like, nuclear war and terrorism stuff. | ||
| I should have got the weather brief and I should have got UFOs. | ||
| And I missed them both. | ||
| Big fail on my part. | ||
| You know, we do have weather. | ||
| We have the ability to control the weather. | ||
| We screwed it up. | ||
| We did it in Vietnam. | ||
| What did they do? | ||
| Seed the clouds. | ||
| Silver iodide? | ||
| To make it rain? | ||
| Yeah, we were going in, they were doing that in North Vietnam to flood the rivers. | ||
| The problem was there was a POW camp called SONTAY, S-O-N-T-A-Y, that we did the most bold commando raid in like the history of the world. | ||
| They flew up in there and they landed and the The prisoner war camp was on this river that had, due to the fact that we were messing with the weather, the river overflowed, so they moved the prisoners a couple days prior, and wow. | ||
| It's silver iodide. | ||
| Silver iodide. | ||
| That's the rain-making chemical. | ||
| It's crystallized silver iodide, and it causes water particles to start condensing. | ||
| But they also have, in the past, probably longer than a decade, but a decade ago or so it was reported, Germany was using infrared lasers I was wondering about that. | ||
| To create lightning? | ||
| No, to create rain. | ||
| I think you can make lightning out of it. | ||
| Would it heat the water molecules or something? | ||
| Something like that. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| They found a way to condense. | ||
| Makes sense. | ||
| They're doing it in Dubai, too. | ||
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| In Dubai? | ||
| Yeah, they're like drones. | ||
| I think that's what you're talking about, Ian, with like, they're using heat or electricity of some kind. | ||
| I heard it was silver iodide, but it could be newer tech as well. | ||
| Yeah, that was pretty recent. | ||
| Rath says, Tim, if you start a new channel for your poker podcast idea, you should name it The Pool Table for all your tabletop needs. | ||
| I think we wanted it, we're going to call it Poker with the Boys. | ||
| What do you guys think? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| So it wasn't my idea. | ||
| Someone else suggested that we do a Sunday night hangout livestream where we just get a bunch of dudes who play poker and then it's mostly just a conversation hangout with poker as a backdrop. | ||
| And I was talking to Clint from Liberty Lockdown. | ||
| He was actually a pro poker player. | ||
| And I was like, I certainly wouldn't be the guy for it. | ||
| It's got to be him or someone. | ||
| But then we would all hang out and it would just be fun because we'd have conversations similar to this, but it would be sillier. | ||
| There'd be booze and chips and whatever. | ||
| And people are having nachos and getting drunk. | ||
| And then, you know, call in bluffs or whatever. | ||
| I think it'd be a fun show. | ||
| Someone else pointed that out to me. | ||
| I can't remember. | ||
| It might have been Matt Brainerd, maybe. | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| Hey, speaking of controlling the weather, I saw this article. | ||
| High-powered lasers can be used to steer lightning strikes. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| Do you know what a laser-induced plasma channel is? | ||
| Yes, an electro-laser. | ||
| That is a high-powered, what is it, plasmatic hydrogen just focused in a beam. | ||
| They use infrared lasers to ionize the air, creating a path for electricity to travel down. | ||
| So the energized, or whatever, particles in the air, the electricity can travel through it, so it creates a path of least resistance. | ||
| And you can look this up, it was, what is it called? | ||
| Picatinny or whatever? | ||
| Picadilly? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Some Air Force base, which one is it? | ||
| They were experimenting with laser-induced plasma channel weapons. | ||
| The idea was- Picatinny. | ||
| Picatinny. | ||
| Isn't it? | ||
| Yeah, go ahead. | ||
| You mount a gigantic machine that fires an infrared laser for a split second, And then the electrode is charged already. | ||
| So as soon as the laser fires, the electricity travels straight down the path and hits whatever. | ||
| So they were like shooting cars with bolts of lightning. | ||
| And ultimately they were like, it's cumbersome, inconvenient and energy exhaustive. | ||
| There's no reason to do it. | ||
| But it's awesome. | ||
| But it's so cool. | ||
| It's like shooting. | ||
| Imagine if you had like a backpack with a battery and you could pull a trigger and blast lightning at somebody. | ||
| I'm seeing Ghostbusters right now as soon as you said that with the thing in the back. | ||
| Was I the only one? | ||
| Nuts. | ||
| I was thinking of those robodogs. | ||
| Shooting at a bunch of different directions at once. | ||
| You can look up videos on YouTube. | ||
| They're small versions. | ||
| One is a guy put it in his door, creating a quote-unquote force field, where you can see the arcs of lightning going, you know, all over where the laser-induced plasma channel is happening. | ||
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What's the difference between that and like a railgun? | |
| Is that like similar? | ||
| Railguns use an electromagnetic in sequence to project a piece of metal. | ||
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Oh, okay. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Railguns are crazy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Full auto rail gun, it's like an electromagnetic pulse. | ||
| I want to launch spacecraft with rail on rail gun type. | ||
| Actually, I was reading about that, and ultimately I think they decided for space package delivery, they're going to use high speed centrifuges. | ||
| That's smart. | ||
| There was a discussion, I was reading about how they did want to use rail guns, use an electromagnetic rail gun to do it, and then they ultimately decided just to swing it. | ||
| Have you seen any videos on that? | ||
| They're videos. | ||
| They're doing it? | ||
| Yeah, they're doing it. | ||
| There's a company doing it. | ||
| I forgot the name of it. | ||
| It's legit. | ||
| Spinning it so fast and then just sending it down a tube, launching it into space. | ||
| I'll send you. | ||
| Here it is. | ||
| You found it? | ||
| This startup wants to throw satellites into orbit with a giant centrifuge. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Spin Launch is the name of the company. | ||
| Way less energy required. | ||
| You don't need all that fuel. | ||
| And it goes supersonic, so that's the one thing. | ||
| They have to do this in the middle of the desert because you get a sonic boom coming out. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Is that crazy? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Man, imagine working there. | ||
| I imagine that something like this would be... | ||
| would be at a spaceport, right? | ||
| I think that's where they want to put it, like down in Arizona or something. | ||
| Yeah, put it, like, I mean, because rockets are, you know, the sound of rockets, like, you have to be really far away because they're massive and blah, blah, blah. | ||
| So I imagine if you have to worry about, you know, the sound levels, a spaceport would make sense for this stuff to be, you know? | ||
| I can't believe that I'm talking about spaceports. | ||
| Let's read some more. | ||
| You got a song out of that. | ||
| I know you're thinking about it. | ||
| Martin Small says, Chris, it's great to see you on IRL. | ||
| You were the best leader I had in my 21-year career. | ||
| Strength and honor. | ||
| Holy cow, that's humbling. | ||
| That's when I start getting weepy, man. | ||
| What was your role? | ||
| Commander. | ||
| What particular rank and command? | ||
| Cap, Special Forces Green Beret. | ||
| So what was that came at? | ||
| Yeah, that's what I did. | ||
| I was just Green Beret captain, major. | ||
| You start, you have 12 men, and then you go to 60, and then you go to 400, and then I got out. | ||
| Would you spend time in the field for weeks at a time? | ||
| Yeah, man, that's it, baby. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| We got Angela Richter in the member chat saying, ha, I live a few miles from SpaceX, and my house is being shaken apart as I watch this. | ||
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Oh no! | |
| That's so cool! | ||
| I hope your house stays together, but man, what a way to lose the property. | ||
| And anyways. | ||
| Has anybody gone down and seen a space launch down there? | ||
| I'm desperate to do that. | ||
| That's bucket list. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You know what I really want? | ||
| I want to be flying. | ||
| I saw a video of this and I want to be in person, be flying through the air in an airplane when I'm watching a rocket launch or better, the boosters land. | ||
| That would be super cool. | ||
| Be in an airplane and watch boosters land. | ||
| That would be super awesome. | ||
| All right. | ||
| The Fizz says, I'm a board member for a nonprofit for disaster response. | ||
| I know you guys are particular with sponsorships and shout outs. | ||
| Where can you send you guys and where can I send you guys an email about our organization to see if we could work together? | ||
| I think on this YouTube channel in the about section, there should be an email address for sponsorships, but we are very particular. | ||
| I just I prefer to keep sponsorships to a to a very to a very, very minimum. | ||
| I mean, look, all of these companies, they come to me and they want to sign us for some reason or another. | ||
| And the fine print in the contracts is always, if you read six ads per episode, you'll make $50 million a year. | ||
| And I'm like, I don't want to read six ads per episode. | ||
| I'd rather just not have that. | ||
| Although part of me is kind of like, man, what could you do with all that money? | ||
| You could hire a bunch of people, you could build a bunch of stuff, but I just, I can't do it. | ||
| I'm not going to do it. | ||
| You could hire someone, the micromachines man, Speaker, the guy that talks really fast, and have him do the reads. | ||
| I mean, I could talk pretty fast if I had to, but, you know, that's a really interesting thought, Phil. | ||
| Before we finish that, why don't you guys head over to TimCast.com and become a member. | ||
| Now, I'm not a fan of podcasts that do that. | ||
| It's kind of off-putting. | ||
| You're watching an interview, and there's some guy saying, like, When I was there, the killing fields, the children that I saw, That's really interesting. | ||
| Before we move on, head over to LargeDiapers.com, a sponsor for today's show, and you'll get 20% off, and I'm just like... Well, then you always have to enter the code, right? | ||
| There's always some special code? | ||
| That's so they know if the ad's working. | ||
| Is that how they do it? | ||
| Yeah, so the reason ads are always like, you'll get 10% off if you use promo code TIM. | ||
| It's actually so that they can look in their internals and be like, hey look, we got a thousand new customers who use TIM, the TIM ads are working. | ||
| Buy more of them. | ||
| So you're not going to do it? | ||
| We do some ads sometimes. | ||
| YouTube has programmatic ads, but for the most part, I think memberships at TimCast.com are the principal way to run the business. | ||
| It's kind of like, I would rather have customers as opposed to, like, if you're doing sponsorships, the sponsors are your customers, and your customers expect a good product. | ||
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And then you end up with, I don't like that you said that thing about that stuff. | |
| And you're like, well, I'm going to keep saying it. | ||
| Well, I'm not going to be a customer of yours. | ||
| And if you rely on that, then you're beholden to companies that want to sell diapers or whatever, as opposed to the people who watch your show. | ||
| If you do it as memberships, then we're beholden to the people who are paying our memberships and not corporations who sell products. | ||
| Not that I have a problem with that. | ||
| I mean, if you're a corporation that sells products, we have some sponsors. | ||
| Ultimately, I decided, we'll sponsor ourselves. | ||
| So we're launching a coffee brand, and we're probably going to do some kind of supplements or something, and then just basically be our own sponsors. | ||
| So that way, we can't cancel ourselves, and we are still more beholden to our audience, who are our customers. | ||
| It's like social media. | ||
| You're not the customer for Twitter, you're the product. | ||
| The customer is the advertiser. | ||
| Yeah, I don't want to run a business like that. | ||
| I'd rather have the people listening to the show be the customers that we're accountable to and not... That's great. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm motivated. | ||
| What's the name of the coffee? | ||
| Can you tell us yet? | ||
| Not yet. | ||
| It's delayed, but I think it should be done in a couple weeks. | ||
| It was supposed to be like December. | ||
| We call the company and they're like, we can have everything ready in a week. | ||
| And I'm like, awesome. | ||
| And they're like, yep, six weeks. | ||
| And I was like, okay. | ||
| Supply chain, man. | ||
| It's a very long week. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| And we've got like 80% of the new studio done, but there's no internet because I think it's Comcast. | ||
| They're like, we don't have the materials to build. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| Have a nice day. | ||
| Call us. | ||
| Do Starlink. | ||
| We have Starlink. | ||
| It's not strong enough. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| The upload rate for Starlink I think is like eight megabits. | ||
| It's impractical. | ||
| So it's like old-school dial-up modem type thing? | ||
| No, no, it's better than that. | ||
| Old-school dial-ups. | ||
| I was just showing how old I was. | ||
| Old-school cable, you know, when you're getting a megabit and you're excited. | ||
| I'm getting 8 megabits up, it's like, okay, I can do a 480 livestream. | ||
| We can upload video files, it'll take 20 minutes. | ||
| Right now we've got greater than gigabit. | ||
| So, it's unfortunate, but we're building infrastructure in a semi-rural area, mostly rural area, and that means they've got to lay down the lines, lay down the fiber, and they don't have the materials to actually build it. | ||
| They said, sorry, we don't have it. | ||
| When we get it, we'll let you know. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know, maybe if I speak on a show like this and say like, hey, Comcast, we need internet at our new headquarters, someone listening might know somebody and be like, can we divert resources and make this happen or something? | ||
| Twitter might be your best bet. | ||
| I feel like the companies love Twitter now. | ||
| It took like four months to get internet here. | ||
| It was crazy because they have to actually dig, like hang lines and like bury line and actually for miles, like two miles up the road, lay down the fiber lines and bring it to the house. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| It's a lot of work to do. | ||
| It's very expensive. | ||
| It's ridiculously expensive. | ||
| I did the same thing in my place. | ||
| I had to drive. | ||
| Put in a line from the road all the way up a mile. | ||
| But when you're in a residential area or an urban area that already has backhaul and lines in the ground, 100 bucks a month for gigabit. | ||
| When you're in a rural area, it's thousands of dollars a month for the same internet. | ||
| And then when they installed it, they installed it wrong and they gave us the wrong box. | ||
| So it had an optical port and like an ethernet port and they gave us the wrong port and we tried to buy converters and we were like, this is insane. | ||
| And then they had to come out and reconfigure and like swap out or something. | ||
| It isn't crazy. | ||
| All right. | ||
| What do we got here? | ||
| Philip Reed says, if Ian ever leaves, Tim's going to hang up a sign that says long hair freaky people need not apply. | ||
| That's actually a good idea to hang up behind Ian as right now. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Andrew Puckett says, Ian's the type of guy who wants to hug in combat. | ||
| Huh. | ||
| I think so. | ||
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I mean, I don't, I don't, I don't want to do that. | |
| Kenneth Hart says, guys, what happened with Tim and Ian in the last three days? | ||
| Episodes have been fire. | ||
| The energy is better. | ||
| The flow is better. | ||
| And you seem to be having more fun. | ||
| Everyone seems to be having fun. | ||
| You know, I am having fun. | ||
| You know, once we started working with Congress, it's the beyond the drugs. | ||
| I credit Congress. | ||
| Spending time at Congress has given me a new lease on life, man. | ||
| I have hope and faith in the system, seeing the amount of work that they are willing to put in. | ||
| Like, Lauren Boebert works 28 days a month. | ||
| She goes, she spends four days a month at home because she's willing to sacrifice and spend that much time. | ||
| Her family, her kids are there and they're with her. | ||
| Like, the whole family that was sacrificed there. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| It's inspiration. | ||
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I have never heard of a person Talk about Congress like that in my entire life! | |
| Once you get inside and you see the camaraderie and the willingness, it's a pretty awkward story. | ||
| You're talking about just the Freedom Caucus and, like, Matt Gaetz. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's like eight people. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I love you, Ian. | ||
| Send me to Congress. | ||
| I'm not your buddy guy, says Tim. | ||
| You've got white stuff above your left lip. | ||
| I am outraged. | ||
| At the body shaming that has been going on in chat from the people who are saying that there is something white in my mustache, it is the graying of my beard. | ||
| It is turning gray. | ||
| I have gray hairs and y'all are shaming me and saying I have boogers and don't you ever stop to think about what other people feel when you're shaming? | ||
| No, so this is why guys get the Just For Men stuff and color their beard. | ||
| I always thought it was silly because I'm like, who cares? | ||
| You go gray, you go gray. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| But then someone pointed out to me, they were like, the problem is people keep going, oh, you've got something. | ||
| And you're like, no, it's just turning white. | ||
| And they're like, oh, and you say that 10 times a day. | ||
| You're like, I'm just going to put this stuff in to make or pluck the hair or something. | ||
| But when it's getting whiter than you've got to, you know. | ||
| More green vegetables should darken the hair, less salt, more green veg, all that. | ||
| I've gone through phases where I'll get white and it'll turn dark again. | ||
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Really? | |
| And another thing that works really well is adrenochrome, I hear. | ||
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The oxidized blood of anyone and everyone? | |
| No, no. | ||
| What was that? | ||
| Adrenaline. | ||
| Oxidized adrenaline, that's what I meant. | ||
| No, it actually, I'm pretty sure it's poison, and that's, you know, I was reading about it. | ||
| Do people actually eat that stuff? | ||
| I ask you, because you're in the Department of Defense. | ||
| I don't think it's real, and I was reading about it, and it's poisonous. | ||
| Like, you can't ingest it. | ||
| You know, adrenochrome. | ||
| Anyway, it's funny. | ||
| All right, all right, where we at, where we at? | ||
| John Kirsten says, Ian, we cannot use conventional tactics against guerrilla tactics. | ||
| Use their rules for radicals back against them and fight their guerrilla war with their own guerrilla tactics. | ||
| Morality is on our side. | ||
| I agree with that, but I think you're conflating the culture war, which isn't actually a war. | ||
| That's an important thing to remember. | ||
| You're wrong. | ||
| Excuse me. | ||
| It's not a real war. | ||
| Yes, it is. | ||
| It's a cold civil war. | ||
| I don't think you call that war. | ||
| I think that's softening the term. | ||
| Google the definition of war, and then let's see if we agree or disagree. | ||
| Carl Von Clausewitz. | ||
| And while you're doing that, Paran Gaming News says, where's Mr. Baucus, Tim? | ||
| Probably peeing on the floor somewhere. | ||
| He's sleeping downstairs right now. | ||
| Ian brought him in here and he pissed on the floor. | ||
| War is the extenuation of politics by other means. | ||
| Go ahead, pull it up. | ||
| I think that's Clausewitz. | ||
| A state of open-armed, often prolonged conflict carried on between nation-states or parties. | ||
| So open, armed... | ||
| But there's more than just the one definition. | ||
| The period of such conflict. | ||
| So like that was the war. | ||
| And then the techniques and procedures of war. | ||
| I don't know why you're using the word and the definition. | ||
| That makes no sense. | ||
| So I like your definition, Chris. | ||
| I'm pulling it up. | ||
| A sustained effort to deal with or end a particular unpleasant or undesirable situation or condition. | ||
| That's pretty vague. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because the issue is words are defined by how they're used. | ||
| And when we say cold war, we don't go, well, the dictionary says that war is armed conflict. | ||
| Therefore the cold war never happened. | ||
| It was more of the cold political dispute between nations. | ||
| It's like, okay, like, we call it a Cold War because... Because there were nuclear arms pointed at each other. | ||
| If there wasn't weapons involved, we wouldn't call it a war. | ||
| And influence operations and spying and stuff. | ||
| So when you have, like, Aaron Danielson getting shot twice in the chest and killed by a guy with a communist tattoo on his neck, I'd argue we are in a hot conflict. | ||
| It's just not to the point where... What we're dealing with is... | ||
| The weaponization of government against the political enemies, January 6th type stuff. | ||
| We're looking at pro-lifers getting arrested. | ||
| We're looking at leftists getting a free pass. | ||
| Like, there is a cold civil war happening, and it was a Yale professor five years ago who said it. | ||
| So if you don't want to take his word for it, totally fine. | ||
| But you have to acknowledge that we've seen violence, death, conflict all under the guise of political tribalism and extremism. | ||
| So is it a hot civil war with marching nation states against each other? | ||
| No, but it is a cold civil war. | ||
| I think it's a fair assessment. | ||
| Sun Tzu wrote that the ultimate goal of warfare is to win without fighting. | ||
| Oh, I love that one. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| Tim, can I give myself a shout out? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Alright, so you guys spent a lot of money to train and educate me when I was a military officer and it worked because I was right with the Carl von Clausewitz quote, war is the continuation of politics by other means. | ||
| Probably the only thing I learned. | ||
| It stuck. | ||
| I don't know what it means. | ||
| That's a good definition. | ||
| Which kind of ties into what you're saying, actually, in a weird sort of way. | ||
| Affecting policy through means other than your standard political process, in a sense. | ||
| That's vague, because you could have affecting policy through other means that isn't war, like economically bribery. | ||
| Bribery is not warfare. | ||
| That's war. | ||
| It's economic warfare. | ||
| That's softening the term of war. | ||
| Economic warfare is war, bro. | ||
| Sanctions are a catalyst of war and a huge component of war. | ||
| Blockades are an act of war. | ||
| No fly zones. | ||
| But those are all threats of force, of weaponry. | ||
| A blockade? | ||
| Yeah, there's something that would blow up. | ||
| And what do you think sanctions are? | ||
| Do you think we just say, don't you do this, and if you do, we'll do nothing about it? | ||
| No, it's because we're saying we will lock people up and put them in boxes at gunpoint. | ||
| Everything is under the threat of force. | ||
| Bribery's not. | ||
| Bribery's... you just... | ||
| You know, bribing your political opponents isn't war, but it's a means other than... I disagree. | ||
| I think it depends on the circumstance for which you are bribing the person, obviously. | ||
| If you're like, hey, I want to get an easement on my land, push through the permits, okay, sure. | ||
| But if it's like, I want to ban this group of people from being able to talk, here's a bunch of money, don't let them talk. | ||
| Yeah, that's war. | ||
| Everything in government is backed by the monopoly on violence. | ||
| That's how government functions. | ||
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We're talking about literal war? | |
| Like, the definition of war? | ||
| Like, Congress is the only body able to declare war? | ||
| We haven't been at war since World War II? | ||
| Don't play semantics with me, bro. | ||
| So, Vietnam was a war? | ||
| It was Vietnam a war? | ||
| No one declared the Cold War, so it never happened, right? | ||
| It wasn't a war. | ||
| The Cold War never happened. | ||
| Congress didn't declare it. | ||
| If you want to step in front and say, legally, the Cold War was a war, you'd be wrong. | ||
| And no one's talking about legally, we're talking about human ideas and understanding, and often, in an attempt to win arguments, you change definitions of words. | ||
| Well, that's a disingenuous way to win an argument. | ||
| That's what you do! | ||
| I agree! | ||
| You are disingenuous. | ||
| You call it the culture war tongue-in-cheek. | ||
| It's not because it's an actual war. | ||
| I literally said it is a cold civil war. | ||
| People have been shot and killed. | ||
| There are people hacking, sending death threats. | ||
| There's banks shutting down people's finances. | ||
| Like, this is all an attempt to destroy people's lives, cause them physical economic harm, in an effort to win a political battle. | ||
| I feel like you could move into someone's city and they'll be like, he's declaring war on us by taking our goods and services and land from us, even though you just did it totally on the board. | ||
| Gentrification has been called war. | ||
| Gentrification is war now. | ||
| It's almost like you live in a black and white world where things are binary. | ||
| Well, when people use words improperly, I get a little upset. | ||
| But you use words improperly all the time. | ||
| That is an improper use of the term all the time. | ||
| You did it earlier. | ||
| You did it earlier. | ||
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Well, mean actually means the average. | |
| The whole point of that exchange was the... You are most famous for making semantic arguments to try and prove a point that doesn't make sense. | ||
| Like, this is what people complain about. | ||
| I don't care about people lists on the internet. | ||
| I'm telling you that everyone is desperately trying to tell you use semantic arguments all the time. | ||
| That is not true. | ||
| You use the term all the time as if it's like a cudgel, and you're wrong. | ||
| I don't do that all the time. | ||
| We were on stage at Long Shots, and we were talking about the great things you bring up on the show, and then I said, but not the semantic arguments, and everyone started cheering and clapping in the audience. | ||
| You created that meme. | ||
| No, I didn't. | ||
| I am simply responding to what people are literally saying in the chat. | ||
| I don't make it up. | ||
| You were the one that said semantics while we were at the old office and then other people started parroting it in the chat. | ||
| You said being mean in math means the average. | ||
| So if you're being mean to someone, you're bringing them to the average. | ||
| No, that's a homonym, not a synonym. | ||
| There's no relation to those words. | ||
| And that's what you did. | ||
| Anyway, let's read some more Super Chats. | ||
| All right, all right, all right. | ||
| What do we got? | ||
| Uh, let's see. | ||
| God gave rock and roll to you. | ||
| Says, ask him. | ||
| Oh, wait, I'm sorry. | ||
| The National Guard is for riots. | ||
| I want our military to handle the invasion at the southern border. | ||
| Yes. | ||
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| All right. | ||
| SA Federale says, Chris is saying what I tried selling to my recruiters 20 years ago, and I was, and was told I watched too many movies. | ||
| I'm going to keep up with what he's, he's doing for sure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, they're like, get a big jet and fly the jet around. | ||
| And it's like, some dude's gonna pop out of the bushes with a remote control car with a bomb strapped to it, and he's gonna drive it into your tent. | ||
| And you're gonna be like, what's that thing? | ||
| Is what's going on in the southern border war? | ||
| Is it an invasion? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I think it's a national, I think it's the purpose of our military. | ||
| When you have people marching with flags of their home country into your country, like, I don't understand why that's not an invasion. | ||
| It's like literally people waving a flag of another country marching into yours. | ||
| Like if this was 1500s France and a bunch of British subjects with British flags marched into France and then stuck the flag in the ground and said, this land is ours now and we're going to live and work here. | ||
| They'd be like, okay, these British people are invading France. | ||
| You don't have to start shooting each other with bows and arrows or whatever, like it happened. | ||
| Alright, where we at? | ||
| Let's grab a couple more as we wrap up. | ||
| Brandon says, damn I love this show. | ||
| Ian is the man! | ||
| Thanks, Dan. | ||
| But that was an old super chat. | ||
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If you'd heard the last five minutes, you might have chatted something else. | |
| Ian, too honest, too honest. | ||
| Just take the win. | ||
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Thanks, Dan. | |
| There's a bunch of redacted super chats. | ||
| People are rescinding them. | ||
| Maybe it's because they were saying mean things, but then they said, yes, mean things about Ian, but then decided they shouldn't. | ||
| They realized they didn't want to bring Ian to Average. | ||
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All right. | |
| Let's let's. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| Stephen says all the fiber optic cable in the eastern U.S. | ||
| is getting buried here in Franklin, North North Carolina. | ||
| Well I need it! | ||
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I am outraged. | |
| Alright everybody, if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe | ||
| to this channel, share this show with your friends, become a member at TimCast.com and | ||
| head over to YouTube.com slash TimCast and check out the first episode of The Culture | ||
| War with Tim Pool featuring Olly London as our first guest, a man who is transitioning | ||
| to be a Korean woman and is now detransitioned and wrote a book about it and is speaking | ||
| out against what they're doing to people and kids and actually a motivational section in | ||
| his book about how to overcome these identity issues and find yourself. | ||
| It's really interesting stuff. | ||
| We got, that's going to be once a week. | ||
| The episodes will go up on Friday. | ||
| Friday's not a good day to ever publish anything but it is what it is. | ||
| And I assume people can watch the episodes throughout the week if they want to. | ||
| We'll have clips up throughout the week as well. | ||
| And we're going to have more guests from the cultural spaces talking about life and what's going on. | ||
| We've got really great guests coming up. | ||
| The next three guests are going to be incredible. | ||
| So check that out. | ||
| You can follow the show at Timcast IRL. | ||
| You can follow me personally at Timcast. | ||
| Chris, do you want to shout anything out? | ||
| Modern Town Square is what you're doing. | ||
| This is really important. | ||
| Thanks for having me on. | ||
| Give me a chance to laugh, but also try to answer some questions. | ||
| Probably failed in most cases, but thanks for what you guys are doing. | ||
| It's really important for our country. | ||
| Right on. | ||
| Could you tell us more about your book, too? | ||
| I'm so bad at my pitch, and the publisher's like, you gotta pitch your book all the time. | ||
| You can hold it up, too. | ||
| All my buddies critique my book, like, I didn't like this part. | ||
| I'm like, did you laugh? | ||
| They're like, I did laugh. | ||
| I'm like, my mission is complete. | ||
| But this talks about some good stories, but at the end of the day, it's about accountability, it's about moving forward with our country, and it's also about You know, those that serve and those they serve, we got to do better bringing that together. | ||
| Back to our point, because what you brought up, civilian oversight is essential to our country. | ||
| And I just kind of behind the scenes, you know, I'm talking too much. | ||
| I know, you know, hey, I know we got to get off. | ||
| I should have never had this job. | ||
| I'm a kid from Iowa. | ||
| It only happens in America. | ||
| I wasn't one of these. | ||
| I was just a guy who started out in the field and was fortunate enough to lead our men and women, our armed forces. | ||
| We're really fortunate in this country. | ||
| I got great hope. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| I got great hope. | ||
| I'm sorry, I know you guys get a little down in the mouth. | ||
| I listen, like, what's the end of the world? | ||
| I'm like, man, you go out in America, you know it, you see it out there, those people. | ||
| It may be a dramatic transformation, but I said the other day, humans have overcome every single challenge set before them thus far, and I don't think we're the exception where it's all going to fall apart. | ||
| I think things could get bad, but we'll figure it out. | ||
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| Chris, thank you so much for coming on. | ||
| I'm going to check out your book. | ||
| Thanks for tuning in, everybody. | ||
| I am Alauda Eliyahu. | ||
| I report for TimCast News. | ||
| You can find me on Twitter, Alauda Eliyahu, Instagram, BarelyInformedWithAlaud, and that's it. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| And I'm leader of the Bolton Bros membership fan club. | ||
| Leader of the Bolton Bros. | ||
| One day we're going to have a mustaches only episode, hopefully. | ||
| Mustaches only. | ||
| I'll tell you about it next time, ahead of time, Chris. | ||
| Wish I would have known. | ||
| I am Phil Labonte, lead vocalist for All That Remains, anti-communist and counter-revolutionary. | ||
| You can check me out on Twitter. | ||
| PhilThatRemains on Instagram. | ||
| PhilThatRemainsOfficial. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm Ian Crossland at iancrossland.net. | ||
| I got a few speaking engagements coming up, one of which will be on May 13th in Oakland, California. | ||
| It's part of the TakeHumanActionTour.com speaking tour. | ||
| We're going to be with the Mises Caucus speaking. | ||
| So that's TakeHumanActionTour.com. | ||
| You can get tickets there. | ||
| Awesome, Chris. | ||
| I'm really looking forward to working with you in the future, man. | ||
| That was some real pleasure. | ||
| I didn't let you guys down. | ||
| My content was bad. | ||
| Like, oh, that was the worst. | ||
| We barely struck the surface. | ||
| As long as you don't storm out after a half an hour, we're good. | ||
| Just thanks for everything you've done, obviously, and being able to talk about it publicly so easily. | ||
| It's really cool. | ||
| And you were saying we control the weather. | ||
| I was thinking, like, who is we as well? | ||
| Who is they? | ||
| It's they. | ||
| Before we go, I'd like to introduce Kellen. | ||
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Yes. | |
| Yeah, Fridays are always fun. | ||
| Thanks a bunch. | ||
| It's a great conversation. | ||
| You're a very funny guy. | ||
| Hey, tomorrow, Rally for Ukraine. | ||
| I know all of Tim Cass viewers are going to be there bright and early. | ||
| But no, Alad and I will be down there in D.C. | ||
| interviewing people about the Ukraine war. | ||
| Is that what it's called? | ||
| Rally for Ukraine? | ||
| It's the one-year anniversary of since Russia invaded the territory. | ||
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So check that out. | |
| And then also, again, check out The Culture War with Tim Pool. | ||
| It's a great new show. | ||
| I listened to it. | ||
| It was awesome. | ||
| You guys can follow me at kellenpdl on Twitter. | ||
| Thanks, guys. | ||
| Thanks for hanging out, everybody. | ||
| And we will see you all with clips throughout the weekend. |
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