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tim pool
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tim pool
This story is fucking nuts- James O'Keefe was holding out on us.
Check this out.
Pfizer director caught on Project Red Hat's hidden camera discussing vaccine's possible effect on women's reproductive health.
More than that, in this release, the dude says they're literally mutating the virus.
So I just gotta say, James in his first release is like, here's a guy talking about how they might do it.
James knew they had him on camera saying they're literally fucking doing it.
Let's play this clip.
unidentified
We will have to investigate that, number one.
Yeah.
Because that is a little concerning.
It actually shouldn't be interfering with that, so we don't really expect... It shouldn't?
It shouldn't, no.
But is it?
There's somebody having it in, but we don't know if we're gonna... Well, I mean, you're a urologist, so you must understand, like, what's going on with it, right?
Like...
So that's why I understand that it's weird.
I hope we don't find out that somehow this mRNA is losing a body.
It has to be impacting something hormonal to impact menstrual cycles.
Yeah, or like the entire next generation is like screwed up.
Could you imagine the scandal?
Oh my god, I'd take Pfizer off my resume.
tim pool
Look what they put, the hashtag Puff Fertility.
It says fertility.
hannah claire brimelow
Fertility with a PH.
jack posobiec
This guy has the most annoying voice.
It's actually triggering me.
ian crossland
They had to bleep out the word fuck. They can talk about Pfizer poisoning humanity, but they can't say the word
This country man this world yeah Let's uh, let's jump forward
unidentified
I seems like we've heard they're kind of optimizing the whole, you know virus mutation process
Well, they're still kind of conducting the experiments on it, but I seems like we've heard they're kind of optimizing
but they're going slow Everyone's very cautious, like, you know.
Right.
tim pool
He literally just said those mutation experiments are happening.
hannah claire brimelow
But they're being cautious.
unidentified
They don't want to accelerate it too much.
Yeah.
But I think they're also just trying to do it as an exploratory thing, because you obviously don't want to advertise that you're trying to figure out future mutations.
How would the research study be delayed for COVID stuff?
Well, not for COVID specifically, so like now we're basically focusing on mRNA beyond COVID.
So quite a lot of our forward-looking research studies gotta make sure they're on track for things like that.
So what is RNA gonna be used for in the future?
tim pool
I was gonna pause and just say, like, come on, dude.
Jack, if you went out, like, for a dinner business meeting and some guy was like, so, you know, I heard that story about, you know, some fake protest sign or whatever.
You did that, didn't you?
That was you.
You made that sign?
jack posobiec
The, what are you talking about?
unidentified
No, no, no, no.
tim pool
Like that sign you made, remember?
Remember you made that sign?
jack posobiec
Oh yeah, the sign.
tim pool
Wouldn't you be like, bro, what the fuck?
jack posobiec
Yeah, it'd be like, what are you talking about?
Now, one thing though, that I think that James, he said it in a Twitter space and I had a friend at Veritas mentioned it to me as well, that the person that he's on the date with here isn't just some random person from Grindr.
Um, which I think everybody kind of like assumed that's what it was that this person is another Pfizer employee.
Oh, wow.
So had reached out to them about something about, I didn't quite get the whole story, but they had wanted to be a whistleblower, but it didn't quite work out for them to directly be a whistleblower.
But then they looked at the case and said, well, maybe cause they weren't in the right division or something.
So in the Intel community, we'd say that placement and access.
So they had, you know, they'd introduced a good placement, but bad access.
And so they said, well, what if we could use you to target someone else at Pfizer?
And they said they were willing to do that.
So they used this person's already placement.
So they didn't have to go and get someone to just, you know, drive around the person's house with like a grinder app and see, you know, get someone.
tim pool
Right.
So this guy thinks he's talking to somebody.
jack posobiec
So what I'm saying is, well, not worked directly with him.
So, uh, cause obviously they would, you know, wouldn't know these, No, but like he's in the mail room or something.
tim pool
So he's like, you work for Pfizer too.
jack posobiec
Yeah, they work for Pfizer.
So I'm already in this false sense of security because I believe this is someone that's been through the Pfizer vetting process, etc, etc.
And so it might not be so crazy to hear all these questions because, oh, you're somebody who works in another division, but you're like, low level, I'm the director of research, you know, of R&D,
so of course I want to brag about all the things that we're doing, but
additionally it also kind of makes sense that you're asking these questions. It's not as
weird that he's so interested. And the approach, so in at Guantanamo there
were 16 legal approaches that you're able to use for what Guantanamo would be called
interrogations or custodial debriefings, and what's being used here quite
obviously is called the pride and ego up approach.
So P&E Up, Pride and Ego Up.
I'm buttering you up.
I'm telling you how smart you are.
I'm saying this is so amazing.
This is clever.
I'm concerned a little, but I'm also so interested.
And P&E Up works on, it just works on some people.
tim pool
Let's play some more, because this is crazy shit.
unidentified
Right.
Like, is Pfizer going to be held liable for, like, any of these vaccine injuries that have happened?
I don't think so.
Because usually when you give drugs, people think it's like a known side effect.
It's like this, it's included and like that's illegal, but it could be.
I mean, there were like lots of people who were like, BIOX and heart attacks.
Really?
BIOX?
But that wasn't, that wasn't for us.
That was another pharma company.
We were hoping you'd like to monitor me for it over time.
So, there hasn't been like any problems so far.
We'll see.
Like in the next several years, if anything comes up.
If anything comes up.
I'm hoping it won't, obviously.
Hope nobody's growing three legs or something like that, right?
Yeah, or like the entire next generation is like super fucked up.
Can you imagine the scandal?
Oh my god.
I mean, I take Pfizer off my resume.
I was telling you earlier about their menstrual cycle, so we will have to investigate that down the line.
Yeah.
Because that is a little concerning.
Because like if you think about the science, like it shouldn't be interacting with like, you know, that it's called like the hypothalamus.
Holy shit, dude.
who are experiencing gonadal access.
Like you know the hormones are like, they're miscalculated and stuff like that?
And the access shouldn't be interfering with that.
So we don't really understand.
It shouldn't?
It shouldn't, no.
But is it?
There's something happening, but we don't know if it's.
tim pool
Holy shit, dude.
This guy just said it's interfering with people's hypothalamic pituitary gonadal access.
So.
hannah claire brimelow
And we'll have to look into it eventually.
jack posobiec
Which, by the way, is something that any one of us would say on a date.
I mean, I'm sure you've heard guys use this line on you all the time.
hannah claire brimelow
All the time.
It's just ridiculous.
tim pool
No, here's the crazy thing, though.
So, a lot of women who claimed they were unvaxxed started having menstrual issues.
jack posobiec
I remember this.
I totally remember this.
tim pool
So, were they secretly getting vaxxed?
jack posobiec
Or was it shedding?
tim pool
Vaccine shedding doesn't make any sense.
jack posobiec
Or is it COVID related?
hannah claire brimelow
COVID makes sense, right?
Like if you're sick, if your body goes something like you can, things can get, you can be late, you can miss a period, whatever.
Like I heard right away, that women were missing periods after getting the vaccine.
And they just said this happens with any vaccine.
It's super normal.
The other thing that came up was women who were going in for breast cancer screenings, right?
They were showing signs that they had breast cancer and it was like, oh no, it's just swelling in the lymph nodes.
It's totally fine.
And so it is not surprising at all to me that they're like, oh yeah, apparently there is a problem and we'll just look into it later because The thing about, I mean, you're married, the thing about female menstruation is that it can be thrown off by random things, but to have a whole- Let me tell you something, Tanya's menstruation is- I don't wanna know, but- What if COVID sterilized people?
tim pool
Because I think Luke mentioned they found the spike protein in ovaries or whatever, and it's like, yeah, but is that COVID or is that the vaccine?
unidentified
Yeah, that's- And, like, they didn't even care to check.
hannah claire brimelow
This is something that we heard from the beginning, right?
That, like, there were not, again, like, I don't know, Pfizer will never tell us, but one of the things that kept coming up from different countries is that there were never control groups that accurately tested the impact on pregnancy and on female fertility.
And so the fact that he's, like, eventually, we'll check on this, like, I keep saying this, but it really bothers me because it's an easy thing to play off as like, ah, women are so crazy.
Their bodies do such weird things.
We can't test for it.
But like, if you wreck women's fertility, there's no coming back.
jack posobiec
I mean, look, we're in the third hour here.
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jack posobiec
I don't even know how much I talked about this publicly.
But I mean, I just 100% believe that what this guy is saying is true.
I think this is exactly what happened in that Wuhan lab.
I think that obviously, the People's Liberation Army was keeping an eye on that lab and seeing what, hey, what mutations are you coming up with?
Could we use this?
Is this useful for something?
I don't think it was released on purpose.
But I do think that once it got out, the Chinese Communist Party realized that, hey, if this thing is out in our country, We don't want to be the only ones who go down.
That's why they kept the planes going.
I remember when the Chinese ambassador to Italy specifically was screaming at the Italians that they had to take these Chinese planes in, was berating them in a way that you don't usually see a Chinese diplomat act.
I've been watching the guys for 15, 16 years now that you just never usually see that level of emotion and passion and animation from them.
And so when we hear these issues of, well, we don't know what it's going to mutate to, we don't know what's going to happen next, I think that's exactly what went down.
I think it was a perfect storm that they were absolutely going through generations of Trying to engineer, right, the spike protein that fit in with the humanized ACE2 receptors that was in the mice.
That's what they got from Barrick.
That's what they got from Peter Daszak and EcoHealth.
That's what that was all about.
And the University of North Carolina line, these humanized ACE2 receptors in mice, these humanized mice.
So that's why in reality, and I would debate anybody on this, it's the simple point, show me the pass-through animal, show me the village that's out by those caves in Yunnan.
If you know Chinese geography, that's like a thousand miles from Wuhan.
So show me, you know, just show me the physical path that this virus took from those caves to this lab.
And of course it makes no sense because the pass-through animal was the humanized mice inside the Wuhan lab, obviously.
And so when we see stuff like this, we haven't learned our lesson.
It's like read a Michael Crichton novel just once in your life.
tim pool
But isn't it kind of exciting to think that we're only a few years away from total societal collapse and it'll be like The Last of Us but without zombies?
hannah claire brimelow
Will Nick Offerman play a gay man in that version of life?
tim pool
You'll walk into New York and all the buildings will be fallen over and overgrown and there'll be skeletons everywhere.
Bandidos and raiders.
That'd be pretty bad.
jack posobiec
You know what, I forget what one it was, but somebody said this before, but it's like, for some reason in every post-apocalyptic series, they always seem to forget bicycles.
unidentified
Yeah.
jack posobiec
Right.
unidentified
Makes no sense.
tim pool
We forgot how to use bikes!
jack posobiec
Just pick up the bike.
It's right there.
You can use that.
You can carry stuff.
unidentified
It's It's like one of the most efficient human tools we've ever invented.
jack posobiec
Yeah, you can get through the forest.
You'll be good.
ian crossland
I got a feeling it wouldn't be good if that happened, but primarily because I think what would happen is stupid idiots would take control.
tim pool
Stupid idiots as opposed to smart ones.
ian crossland
Yeah.
We have smart idiots right now that are trying to run the world by design, but we just get moronic, strong men.
Well, Klaus Schwab is brilliant, but not- Klaus Schwab?
Yeah, I think he's intellectually brilliant.
tim pool
I don't know if he's- This is why people think Ian's a double agent, because he defended AOC, he says things like this.
ian crossland
Yeah, I think he's super intelligent, not necessarily, I don't know if he's wise, if he has much wisdom.
jack posobiec
I think he's just an opportunist.
unidentified
Dude, yo, shout out Andrew Tate.
Andrew Tate said he's met all these people, all these wealthy people through all of his, you know, his ability to have, like, However he got his money, whatever.
He met all these people that are supposed to be like the runner-movers and shakers in the world and he says they're supremely uninteresting, they're not skilled, they're not like these super-powered people that everyone thinks they are, they're just normal people.
Just kids and rich people?
Yeah.
jack posobiec
Go look at, you know, and not to get into it all the way, but Yeah.
you know, that video, uh, the Paul Pelosi video and not the attack, but look what happens immediately prior to the
attack.
You're seeing someone who these are supposed to be our elites.
These are supposed to be the, the superheroes, super minds behind the scenes. And this guy is like, obviously got an
alcohol problem. And I hope he gets help with that. Even though
And I hope that this incident is his rock bottom, the way I would hope that, I know, for every addict.
He got to hit rock bottom at some point, and that he's able to learn from this.
Not that he was responsible, but also that, you know, perhaps there are things you could do with your life.
tim pool
I think he was drunk out of his mind.
jack posobiec
That's what I'm saying.
That's what I'm saying.
That, you know, maybe if he wasn't, he could have reacted differently to the situation.
And, and also that, you know, you look at the kids, I mean, how many kids of, uh, like the Democrat Congresswoman and her kids in Antifa and it's like climbing trees and tree house Antifa down in Atlanta, outside of cop city.
And, you know, they were supposed to be creating these superhumans and instead they create kids like that.
I mean, these are our elites.
These are our leaders.
tim pool
They're supposed to be making superhumans, but their kids are fucking idiots.
jack posobiec
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, there was a Massachusetts congresswoman whose transgender child got arrested for... I think that's what I'm talking about, isn't it?
jack posobiec
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
In Massachusetts, the person was spray painting the Boston Commons and saying all kinds of anti-police stuff.
And then there was like this big brawl and the police officer was like, being a parent, or the congresswoman was like, being a parent is very challenging.
tim pool
And some outlets said congresswoman's daughter and some said congresswoman's son.
And I'm like, I don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
jack posobiec
I remember we didn't actually know until the outlets started saying that.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, the police report You only use masculine.
And the congresswoman only used feminine.
tim pool
She was lying.
She was blaming her daughters for what her son did.
hannah claire brimelow
She only got one daughter too.
It's mean.
jack posobiec
Could you imagine that?
You have three sons?
biological daughter.
tim pool
Could you imagine that?
Like you've got, what did you have three sons or something?
hannah claire brimelow
No, I think it's, uh, it was two boys and a girl and now it's a boy, a girl and a
unidentified
It's still two.
tim pool
Imagine, imagine you're like, it's like, you have a brother and then your brother
goes and like kicks a dog and then your mom's like, my daughter kicked a dog.
You're like, no, I fucking didn't.
You know, that's what everyone's going to think.
Cause no one's going to look at the dude and be like, that's the daughter.
jack posobiec
But I guess my overall point here is that we think these people have some special power behind the scenes and a lot of the dumbest box of shit, right?
Because a lot of these people, they've, they've had power that's been given to them systemically.
They've inherited power in many ways, not necessarily through only family means, but just through an inherited institutions.
They've learned how to say the right words to repeat the same incantations and phrases.
and they've been able to achieve power through that, through systems that were built by people
who were far, far superior to them and that sort of been bequeathed to them.
tim pool
Have I told you that I'm watching 1883?
How sad is it?
jack posobiec
Do you have any idea how triggering it is that I know that I've, I've had 1883, the whole series on, I'm gonna say it right now because I love my wife, but I've had this thing on my tablet for like six months.
And every time I go to put on an episode, it's, we get like five minutes in and And because, of course, we have the MyPillows.
You can't fight the MyPillows.
hannah claire brimelow
You guys have to watch it while you're on treadmills or something.
unidentified
What I was going to say is to see like... I want to watch it!
tim pool
To see the idea of a bunch of people from Europe landing on barren shores and boats and then immediately being like, get to work or we're going to die.
We have no food.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
tim pool
And now it's this is what they've made.
Imagine taking the founding fathers and be like, these are your kids.
They're going to be like, fuck.
Fuck me, dude.
Really?
This is what happened?
jack posobiec
They'd be like, go back.
Forget about it.
tim pool
Yeah, they'd be like, wow.
These people became entitled lazy pieces of shit.
hannah claire brimelow
I wish we could show them like a reel of history and be like, and that's where you guys went wrong.
Like, I'll take this, guys.
After this, you guys are on your own.
tim pool
Yeah, like, guys, Second Amendment.
Come on, what the fuck?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
You know?
Like, here's what you're right.
The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed for any reason, no matter what, no matter about technology, doesn't matter about stock size, doesn't matter about barrel length, any gun, at any point, for any reason, by anyone, even nuclear weapons.
What does nuclear mean?
Just shut up, just put it in there.
Okay, whatever you say.
That's what I'm talking about.
jack posobiec
Just write it, George.
Just write it and sign it.
tim pool
The funny thing is they don't have British accents.
They talk like this.
unidentified
Yeah, that's true.
tim pool
The fake British accent was invented by Brits to sound snooty.
unidentified
Right.
Received pronunciation.
Yeah.
tim pool
They at school start teaching kids to talk like this.
hannah claire brimelow
You're welcome.
jack posobiec
Look, it's the best country because there's propaganda even in Have you ever seen, though, there's an island off of the coast of Virginia, and then there's also another island, I think in the Chesapeake Bay here, where you know what I'm talking about?
Yes, exactly.
They talk that way?
No, it's... They have their own regional accent?
They have a form of Elizabethan English because the families have basically stayed there since the initial founding, since the 1600s.
And so it's kind of like a Jamestown situation where they have a specific accent that people believe, and you can find videos of it in interviews, that is the closest living link that we have to like Shakespearean English.
hannah claire brimelow
And they incorporate in their elementary schools, from what I understand, but the biggest challenge is that now there's the internet, right?
So all of the kids who are growing up there have access to YouTube.
It's in Virginia and it's an island.
ian crossland
There's Ocracoke Island in North Carolina.
jack posobiec
I know there's one in Maryland as well.
hannah claire brimelow
I think it's Virginia but it could be wrong.
ian crossland
Smith Island.
unidentified
There's a couple of them.
It's not just one place.
ian crossland
Tangier Island.
These are coming from BBC, it's interesting.
jack posobiec
And the funny thing is, they actually sound like Southerners.
unidentified
Yeah, it's interesting.
That's just how it happened as well.
A lot of the Southern elite spoke like that as well, because it was received pronunciation.
And they also had the same accent from the Southern English.
hannah claire brimelow
I think it's Tangier Island.
unidentified
Tangier sounds right.
jack posobiec
Which one?
hannah claire brimelow
It's that British Southern slang.
jack posobiec
It's got its own... In which state?
hannah claire brimelow
Virginia.
unidentified
Virginia.
tim pool
Buckston.
Look at this.
ian crossland
That's awesome.
tim pool
Wow, this would be a cool place to visit.
Frisco Mini Golf.
hannah claire brimelow
Road trip.
Let's go.
ian crossland
Check out the satellite image on that.
Look at that shallow.
unidentified
Whoa.
ian crossland
Look at that deep trench there.
All that light blue used to be land before the flood, I think.
jack posobiec
I'm pretty sure.
It's true.
It's true.
Graham Hancock, Tim Caswell.
The old coast.
ian crossland
Dude, Graham Hancock.
tim pool
That's the old coast right there?
unidentified
Essentially, that's the idea.
It's the other shelf.
ian crossland
It drops so far off all of a sudden.
That's crazy.
And it connects, like, Alaska and Russia, that light blue.
jack posobiec
But then, of course, the interior where we have the desert now was ocean at that time.
unidentified
That proves it.
ian crossland
The Sahara?
No, in America.
Oh, the Death Valley area?
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Was ocean?
It was water?
jack posobiec
It was all water.
ian crossland
Was it below sea level?
unidentified
Salton Sea.
That's the word, Salton Sea.
ian crossland
Salton Sea, dude.
tim pool
Yeah, Salton Sea's fake.
What was it?
They accidentally busted a canal or something and it filled the whole thing up.
They're like, ah, and they closed it.
Now it's slowly draining.
ian crossland
Yeah, it was a popular resort for wealthy people.
jack posobiec
I think it's completely drained now.
unidentified
It's completely drained, I'm pretty sure.
tim pool
Completely?
jack posobiec
Yeah.
tim pool
I was there a few years ago.
It was water.
No shit.
jack posobiec
I know there's a ton of photos you can see now where it just looks like it's the high desert.
And then you can see the remains of like motels and drive-in movie theaters and restaurants and stuff.
And it's all just... There's still water there.
ian crossland
Yeah, it was the place to go in the 50s.
tim pool
Yeah, they used to party and stuff, but it's slowly drying up and shrinking.
jack posobiec
Or maybe it's like significantly smaller than it was.
tim pool
And it is.
And you can see it receding because it's going to disappear at some point.
And there's dead fish, fish bones everywhere because they just die.
It's turning into brine because the salt stays, but the water leaves.
So it's turning into brine.
Everything's dying in it.
ian crossland
And I guess Utah, the Great Salt Lakes is probably the remnants of saltwater, ocean water too.
unidentified
It's the old, there used to be Lake Bonneville that was like, it's massive, the size of Lake Bonneville.
It's like all the way up to like, some of the shores are in Boise as well, the other shores of Bonneville Trail.
It's wild.
It's super, super huge.
And it's the same thing as Salton Sea, like it's drying up and now there's a lot of this old, like old nuclear remnants.
jack posobiec
But Tim, do an image search for Salton Sea.
ian crossland
When you look back in the day when they're all partying.
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
It's wild.
jack posobiec
No, no, no.
Some of the ones now are just so dystopian though, because you see these like 50 style diners just in the middle of nowhere.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
ian crossland
Like this?
tim pool
I don't think there's any diners or anything over there.
I went there.
There was just like one main building and it was closed.
jack posobiec
Am I thinking of something else?
ian crossland
Oh, I'm looking at a bunch of dead fish at Salton Sea.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
So was it man-made?
tim pool
Yes, from the beginning.
They weren't trying to do it.
There was something like they were digging a canal and then someone bust it and they're like, ah, and the water started filling up this area.
And then when they finally fixed it, and they did, now it's disappearing.
Something like that.
It's been almost 10 years since I was there.
That's crazy to think about.
Look at this.
People live over there.
We met some kids who were skating nearby and there's just dead fish everywhere.
ian crossland
That was underwater at one point.
hannah claire brimelow
Must smell great.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
What was this?
What did it smell like when you were there?
tim pool
Smelled like dead fish.
You know, I'm really, you know what I, you know where I really want to go is, uh, let me show you.
jack posobiec
Centralia.
tim pool
No, no, I've been there.
ian crossland
Mont Saint-Michel.
tim pool
There's nothing there.
You know, it's just like a street.
No, this is what you want to do.
You want to go here.
You want to go all the way over here.
You want to go to Vladivostok and, uh, and, uh, you want to go here and you want to go.
Where is it?
Where is it?
unidentified
There's a, there's a pizza place.
What?
ian crossland
You want to check it out?
tim pool
Yeah, definitely, man.
jack posobiec
You're in for pizza in Vladivostok.
ian crossland
I wonder if they use high fructose corn syrup.
hannah claire brimelow
Dream vacation for Tim.
jack posobiec
Probably not.
tim pool
Oh, yeah, dude.
That's that's look at that, man.
Eastern Russia right next to Japan.
Look how close Russia gets to Japan.
Isn't that crazy?
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
That was all one piece of land.
Right here.
tim pool
Look at this.
ian crossland
I wonder if when after the flood, if they were just isolated.
Like, whoop, now we're on that island.
unidentified
Well, that's why Japan has so many unique animals to it.
That's why most of those islands like Madagascar are so many unique animals.
tim pool
Dude, Japan is fucking awesome.
unidentified
It's so, it's really badass.
I love my time in Japan.
tim pool
I gotta go back, gotta go back.
ian crossland
Jack, have you spent much time in Japan?
jack posobiec
Yeah, but when I was there, it's when I was still in the Navy, so.
I mean, I've been there like a half a dozen times, but it's, I was always down in Yokosuka,
and just there for work, basically.
You know, to look at it that way.
So always on base doing that kind of stuff, spend a little bit of time running around Tokyo, just in between meetings, like check out Shinjuku, et cetera, like touristy stuff.
tim pool
Me and Luke went to Fukushima, so we'll probably die in our fifties from thyroid cancer or something.
jack posobiec
I think it'd be okay. I remember when I joined the Navy, that when you test in, you know,
you have to do like your your ASVAP because I originally enlisted.
And then I scored high enough where I could be a, you know, a nuke and go in for
nuclear engineer. And I specifically said that I don't want to be a nuke, I want to be Intel.
And they said, Why do you want to be And I told him I was really interested in China.
I was very worried.
I'd lived there for two years.
And then I also said, and secondarily, I don't want there ever to be a problem with the nuclear reactor.
And then they say, hey, let's call PASOBIC to go deal with that.
And then Fukushima happened and they sent Navy engineers over there and they all got radiation poisoning.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Brutal, man.
ian crossland
Any long lasting effects?
jack posobiec
I don't, I don't think it was like nothing like level or anything like that, but they did get some radiation.
ian crossland
Yeah.
The scare of nuclear radiation in the past was like, if you get it there, it's hit you forever.
But it turns out it's like the actual piece of metal that's radiating.
So if you could move away from it, it's not hitting you as hard.
But it's concerning when it gets into the water.
jack posobiec
So Tanya's dad, she tells a story that he almost took a job, right?
So she's from Belarus, and of course Belarus is the area that was hit with the Chernobyl fallout the most because the winds were blowing from, because Chernobyl's like right on the border.
And so, um, but where she's from is like all the way on the other side of Belarus from where, um, from where Chernobyl is, which is closer to like Gamal, which is on the other, uh, the other, uh, border.
And she said that her dad actually had been, I guess he had like had this job offered that he could have been in Gamal.
And then Chernobyl happened like a year before.
Before she was born or something like that.
And he was considering doing it, but then Chernobyl happened.
He's like, no.
And he didn't want anything to do with that part of the country.
And so she's fine, et cetera.
Everything's fine.
ian crossland
That's how she got superpowers?
jack posobiec
Because of the dad?
Well, not necessarily.
The superpowers were because of the black magic sorcery, but obviously we can't talk about that publicly.
It's further west.
But no, it is the reason that all of my children glow in the dark.
unidentified
Were you ever stationed in Singapore at all when you were in the Navy?
jack posobiec
Never made it to Singapore, believe it or not.
unidentified
Interesting.
jack posobiec
Even though I am very pro-flogging, I think we should bring him back.
ian crossland
Have you seen the people talking around?
They're like, I can't tell Matt Walsh if he's joking when he's like, yeah, the reason I think it's talking about Singapore is because there's no crime is because they execute drug dealers on the spot.
jack posobiec
Well, I think it's definitely not on the spot, but it's a shift of the Overton window to the point where we're realizing that we coddle criminals in this country and we encourage crime in many states in this country, whereas in Singapore, they punish it severely.
tim pool
Yeah, like if you don't flush a toilet.
Not for real.
ian crossland
They bust people up for that kind of thing?
tim pool
There'll be police.
They will run into a bathroom after you walk out.
And if you didn't flush, they'll give you a ticket.
jack posobiec
You know that guy Michael?
So Michael Fay.
So we did a story on this the other day.
unidentified
He went to high school.
jack posobiec
So you know that when he came back, this was the teenager who was caned for, and by the way, he was like, he conducted vandalism of like the prime minister's house.
unidentified
Yo, it's crazier than you think what he actually did.
jack posobiec
It's wild.
It's like really bad.
unidentified
You went to high school with him?
No, I was in the same high school that he graduated from.
jack posobiec
And so he, when, but point being though, when he came back, he still had some, some other brushes with the law, but he did eventually go to college, uh, made something of himself and he runs a, I don't want to dox him, but runs a, um, a pretty successful food and beverage business in like Ohio now.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
jack posobiec
So all because of flogging.
unidentified
Caned, not flogged, caned.
tim pool
It's a wet piece of bamboo.
jack posobiec
Is that what they do?
unidentified
Yes.
Yeah, they get a really, really ripped dude to hit you so hard that you get two and you'll basically be passed out.
jack posobiec
I mean, flogging, same thing.
But point being is, and the argument that I was making is, look, all these people are saying there's too many people in prison, the prison population is too large, it costs too much money, it's inhumane.
unidentified
I say, hey, guys, I have a much more humane situation.
jack posobiec
Look, let me ask you this.
Here, I'll ask everyone here.
If you were given the option Five lashes or five years?
tim pool
Lashes!
jack posobiec
Who wouldn't take the lashes?
Who wouldn't take the lash?
unidentified
The lashes are going to take you like eight months to get through them.
tim pool
Is that five years in prison?
jack posobiec
Eight months is less than five years.
So this is one of the arguments, because prisons were part of the original progressive movement, the original reform movement.
Because prior to this, it was always either forced, I mean, forced labor goes back thousands of years.
Rome used forced labor.
So we had hangings and we had corporal punishment, right?
And so the idea of, obviously there were dungeons, right?
But unless you, the only people who were ever sort of like locked up were like nobility.
This was like, the prince is kept in the tower or whatever.
That the point of the dungeon was that you were held there while you were either waiting trial or awaiting your sentence to be carried out.
It was always a temporary holding place.
And it's only been in the last 200 years that we decided to make the holding place the punishment.
Whereas prior to that, it was... So my point being is that it was always a progressive idea to make prison be the punishment.
That the original idea was always that there was going to be actual punishment.
tim pool
Yeah, prison hardens criminals.
jack posobiec
Correct.
tim pool
You put them all in the same place and you incubate them.
Makes no fucking sense.
jack posobiec
Right.
No.
And so, and it never did make sense because it's not punishment.
And there's, there's a certain level of people that will never quite, they're never there.
It was, it's obviously a progressive idea that you can change someone who is a hardened criminal into a productive member of society by holding them in prison longer.
tim pool
That makes no sense.
I think, I think people can be, I think many people can be rehabilitated, but it, it seems like what works is putting them on a deserted island where they have to fend for themselves.
That's true.
Yeah, seriously.
Yeah.
Well, no, like, in Norway they did this.
They took a bunch of, like, really violent offenders, like, the island is yours, and then they, like, automatically reformed because they had to survive, and it restructured their behaviors and everything.
jack posobiec
Did they even kill each other?
tim pool
No, I don't think so.
hannah claire brimelow
No, but some tried to escape, because they hated it so much.
tim pool
Really?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
There was this whole... Time magazine featured it when I was in high school, and I still think about the story and the images.
Like, it was...
Separate like it wasn't like so rural that they didn't have anything right had electricity had facilities but like they had to take care of themselves they had to like I mean exile is another ancient form of punishment.
tim pool
I take exile over prison.
jack posobiec
Right and so my point is is that for all these all these people out there all the progressives who say oh prison is bad prisons are terrible fine that's great we do have something we could do something much more humane we could flog.
tim pool
Wyoming.
We just build massive 30-foot barriers around Wyoming, and then when you're in trouble, Wyoming's all yours.
hannah claire brimelow
Isn't that like, there's some movie where they make England a prison, but I don't know what it is.
I can't think of it now.
tim pool
But then it's like, you go to the checkpoint and you're like, wanna just check to see if my Wyoming is up?
And they're like, let me see your card, and they'll type in your name.
jack posobiec
You've been sentenced to Wyoming.
tim pool
And they're like, you've got two more months of Wyoming.
It's like, okay.
hannah claire brimelow
But the thing is, I grew up in a really rural area, we did not have a homeless problem, but there were a couple people who were homeless, and every winter they would commit some crime so they could be incarcerated through the winter, food, shelter, whatever.
It would be interesting if we made Wyoming America's jail, First off, they would hate it because they're trying to be the crypto capital of America.
But also, there would be people who would be like, okay, I want to go to Wyoming.
I'm going to commit some crime.
I'm going to start life there.
You would just have a secondary society.
jack posobiec
On federal land, by the way.
unidentified
Yeah, true. 100%.
jack posobiec
No, I think there's a happy medium where the progressive left and the conservative right can come together when it comes to this idea of prisons.
You're right, we do have too many people in prisons.
I completely agree.
There is something that should be done about this, and that something is called flogging.
ian crossland
I get the real nerves when I hear about the Singaporean They're not a kingdom anymore.
It's not a king.
No, but when they just take it to the drug dealers is like weed weed is not caffeine Caffeine's a fucking drug.
unidentified
Yeah, but it's it's it's a particular.
It's if you're trafficking the drug.
ian crossland
Yeah, it's trafficking It's not certain level.
jack posobiec
It's not possession.
unidentified
No, no, it's not possession possessions like it's much harsher participants mind you It's like a year and per year in prison you get it you get but it's reform They actually make sure you don't have any reason to take it.
They address all the social issues, etc and But the thing about it is, too, is people, what Jack's saying, I think people are afraid of getting in trouble.
Jail in Singapore sucks.
It's not fun.
jack posobiec
Well, and this whole argument started because of that viral video of the Singapore airport of Changi.
And that, you know, my point was, well, they have this because of flogging.
And then, of course, Compact Mag was writing Well, you know, Pacific and Matt Walsh are saying it's because of flogging.
No, I think it's because of investment in public infrastructure said, no, you don't get my point.
It's, it's obviously you have to invest to build the airport.
We, yes, I think we all understand that it's, it's the point is that you have to have an ordered society.
First Singapore, before Lee Kuan Yew took power it was this like nubbin on the end of Malaysia.
And then he was the one that took it and turned it from this total backwater Until one of they called the four tigers of Asia in the 1980s and 90s.
And so it was through those policies.
And by the way, to your point before about politicians, one of the things they do in Singapore is they pay public servants in Singapore commensurate with private sector, private sector salaries.
So it's basically like, for example, the IC right now, the NSA is constantly competing with like, Interesting.
and Facebook and Meta and Twitter for programmers, and cybersecurity, et cetera, et cetera,
because those are the same skill sets that they need.
Well, somebody knows, well, if I go to work for the government, I'm gonna make like pennies
compared to what I could make in the private sector.
In Singapore, they flip that around.
unidentified
Exactly.
ian crossland
Interesting.
Do you think there could be a financial incentive to get people signed up for the military?
jack posobiec
I think they have two years in Singapore.
unidentified
In Singapore you have national service for two years, or three years if you're male, two years if you're female now.
ian crossland
Oh, I mean in the U.S., like just to raise recruitment numbers.
jack posobiec
I think citizenship requires service.
Yo, that's not a bad idea.
unidentified
I agree.
ian crossland
But that's what the Romans did when the empire started falling.
tim pool
They started taking But not military.
It could be anything in service of your community.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
That's the general idea.
All right, buddy.
Thanks for hanging out, Jack.
It's been a blast.
jack posobiec
Always a pleasure.
tim pool
And for everybody who is a member, thank you all for helping and make all this possible.
I will just say, especially with January, January is a really awful month because you can't rely on sponsors.
It is because we have this website that we're able to keep this machine running because quite honestly, ads just don't cut it, especially in January.
And it looks like it might get bad again this year, but we'll see.
So long as you guys are watching, we'll keep doing it.
Thank you so much, and we'll see you all next time.
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