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Timcast IRL - Pfizer ADMITS To Engineering Virus In Response To Project Veritas w/Matt Strickland
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tim pool
All in all, it was actually kind of a weirdly slow news day, but we did have a lot of news
All in all, it was actually kind of a weirdly slow news day, but we did have a lot of news
over the past week and weekend.
over the past week and weekend.
And for those that missed it, because you weren't, it was, it was, that was the intention
And for those that missed it, because you weren't, it was, it was, that was the intention
of Pfizer, so that you would miss it.
of Pfizer, so that you would miss it.
Last Friday at 8pm, they issued their formal response to James O'Keefe and Project Veritas.
Okay, informal.
They issued a statement about mutations and directed evolution.
And the interesting thing is that they actually said that in certain cases, such a virus could
be engineered so they could help, help identify antiviral drug treatments, blah, blah, blah.
Basically, in a matter of speaking, they made it seem like they were denying having done
anything like this.
It's not gain of function or directed evolution, nothing like that.
It's just engineering such a virus and researching the mutations to determine whether, okay,
fine, you know what, I don't know what they're trying to say.
How about we read you their statement, which basically says they're doing it.
And several al-Safari reported, they deny gain of function but admit to...
Engineering viruses.
They claim it's safe.
Don't worry.
But we'll read into that.
We'll talk about that.
Plus, we got celebrity actor Zachary Levi.
He's in Shazam.
And in the wee hours of Sunday morning, he tweeted that he agreed Pfizer was dangerous for the whole world.
And now he's got a bunch of liberals attacking him as an anti-vaxxer, which is the weirdest thing because he didn't mention vaccines.
Nobody did.
It's just a big corporation that's been fined billions of dollars for being found guilty of criminal charges and allowed to continue operating.
So we'll talk about all that, plus a bunch of really fun stuff.
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It's not going to save him.
But we'll talk about it.
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Joining us today to talk about this and a whole bunch more, including his personal experience with the lockdowns, we got Matt Strickland.
matt strickland
Tim, thanks for having me on, brother.
I really appreciate it.
My name is Matt Strickland.
tim pool
And you're a restaurateur.
matt strickland
I sure am.
Before that, I was in the military, so I'm a veteran.
Spent about 10 years of my life fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan and came home and I opened a food truck.
It turned into a restaurant and that quickly became successful as well until COVID hit.
And I realized very early on that these mandates were more about control than they were our health and safety.
So I fought back.
And because I fought back, the government stripped me of all of my licenses.
But I continued to fight back.
And the people stood with me.
And we kicked the government's ass.
unidentified
You won.
matt strickland
We won.
tim pool
We gotta talk about it.
This is great.
We went down to Gore Melts.
It's in Virginia.
Amazing food.
Love the music, 90s music.
Yeah, the food was legit.
It was good stuff.
And hearing that you won in the end is exactly what people need to hear.
matt strickland
That's right.
tim pool
Because, you know, nonviolent civil disobedience.
You say, look, we're a restaurant.
This is unconstitutional.
We're going to do our thing.
The government came after you.
It was a hard fight.
And in the end, You win.
matt strickland
That's it.
That's what it was all about.
I mean, I saw them stripping my customers and my employees of our constitutional rights, and I wasn't going to be complicit in that.
And the reason was I spent my entire adult life fighting dictatorships overseas, and I was not going to come home to my country and allow a dictatorship to rule.
And then what disappointed me is that my Republican leadership in the state of Virginia did not step up and fight with me.
And for that reason, I'm now running for state Senate in Virginia, and I'm coming to crush the establishment.
tim pool
All right, man.
We'll definitely talk about it.
Thanks for hanging out.
Thanks for joining us.
We got Libby hanging out as well.
She's back.
libby emmons
Hey, what's going on?
It's Libby Edmonds.
I'm with the Postmillennial.
Glad to be here.
tim pool
Right on.
ian crossland
Hi, everyone.
Ian Crossland here.
Happy to report.
Bucko's doing extremely well.
We had an amazing weekend together, hanging out, healing, eating a lot.
And also from the front of gaming news, if you haven't heard, Wizards of the Coast has gone back on their decision and plans to basically rip apart their old open gaming license and proprietize all their software.
They were about to start taking huge chunks of percentages from people that were trying to make money off the D&D rule set, which had previously been made open.
tim pool
They couldn't even do it if they tried.
ian crossland
Yeah, and they realized that 89% of the people were dissatisfied in their polls, so they just scrapped the whole plan.
They're just keeping it open.
Another instance of humanity stepping up and making sure that what's right remains.
tim pool
Some quick context.
Mr. Bocas is the cat.
He is our cat here at the Cast Castle.
And he's sick, so Ian is getting some experimental treatments for him.
But see, for us, normally, you know, Bocas lives with me, or he did, until Ian started tending to him
over the past couple of weeks for his medicine.
But, you know, Bocas will try and wake us up at about 6.30, 7 a.m., screaming.
And then what he does is he puts one paw on your face and then lets out a claw, right in your face.
And you go like, wake up to a, like a lightening, like, ah, like what's happening?
And then he's yelling, like, I want food, wake up.
So we were thinking it was kind of funny.
I'm like, oh man, you know, Ian sleeps so late.
How's he going to handle Bocas screaming at him?
And then I went, Ian's awake at 6.30am.
He goes to bed.
So Bocas is chilling.
He wants dinner.
Ian gives him his 6.30am dinner and then they both go to bed at the same time.
ian crossland
It's great.
And also it's Kara and I are doing it together, my girlfriend Kara.
So the two of us have a 12 hours on, 12 hours off kind of schedule.
The buck was in good hands.
tim pool
Right on.
We got Serge pressing the buttons.
unidentified
Yo, what's up guys?
I hope you guys are well.
It's been a long weekend for me, but we're out here.
Let's get started.
tim pool
All right, here's the story from the Daily Mail.
Pfizer admits engineering COVID mutants in lab studies to ensure its antiviral drug works on new variants, but PharmaGiant insists tests were not gain-of-function and did not pose risk to the public.
I love this story, because we constantly hear this, where it's like, you know, the analogy I give is, you know, Dr. Fauci, is there a door on the building of the NIAID?
unidentified
No, there is no door.
We have no door.
We have a porthole with a large wooden object, and there is a mechanical device you twist, which causes it to unlatch and open on hinges.
tim pool
And you're like, bro, you're describing a door.
They just play this game where they're like, I didn't jaywalk.
I just crossed the street, not in the crosswalk.
It's like you're describing literally the thing.
So Pfizer, in response, presumably to Project Veritas, Released a statement at 8 p.m.
on Friday.
unidentified
Look at this!
tim pool
Friday, January 27th, 8 p.m.
You know, we did a show that day, but like, we didn't see this message come out literally the moment we go live, because we do pre-production about an hour before.
But we're gonna make sure we get this story front and center on Monday, so that nobody forgets.
They tried to memory hole this.
Let me read for you what they say, because it'll make you laugh.
Allegations have recently been made, is their statement, related to gain-of-function and directed-evolution research at Pfizer, and the company would like to set the record straight.
The next paragraph you're about to hear is just patter to, like, make you not want to read it.
They say, in the ongoing development of the Pfizer BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine, Pfizer has not conducted gain-of-function or directed-evolution research.
Working with collaborators, we have conducted research where the original SARS-CoV-2 virus has been used to express the spike protein from new variants of concern.
This work is undertaken once a new variant of concern has been identified by public health authorities.
This research provides a way for us to rapidly assess the ability of an existing vaccine to induce antibodies that neutralize a newly identified variant of concern.
We then make the data available through peer-reviewed scientific journals and use it as one of the steps to determine whether a vaccine update is required.
Okay, so wait.
You get the new variants, then you test it, see if you need to update.
Makes sense.
They add.
In addition, to meet U.S.
and global regulatory requirements for our oral treatment, PaxLivid, Pfizer undertakes in vitro work, e.g.
in a laboratory culture dish, To identify potential resistance mutations to Nirmatrelvir, one of PaxLivid's two components.
With a naturally evolving virus, it is important to routinely assess the activity of an antiviral.
Most of the work is conducted using computer simulations or mutations of the main protease A non-infectious part of the virus.
You see, at this point I'm reading it like, they're not saying they're engineering anything.
They then go on to say, in a limited number of cases when a full virus does not contain any known gain-of-function mutations, such virus may be engineered to enable the assessment of antiviral activity in cells.
Okay.
Now they're just trying to play a legal game with me.
Let's just break that sentence down and try and understand it.
In a limited number of cases, when a full virus does not contain any known gain-of-function mutations, such virus may be engineered to enable the assessment of antiviral activity in cells.
What they're saying is, when they engineer the cell, they need it to express mutations like they said they were checking for, so that they can see if their antiviral works.
That, to me, fine.
Don't call it gain of function.
Call it engineering, like they did.
So COVID's actually engineering such a virus, as they've stated, to assess antiviral activity.
Okay, there you go.
ian crossland
Pfizer.
Pfizer's engineering.
tim pool
Oh, sorry, what is it?
ian crossland
COVID is engineering.
tim pool
Oh, yeah, yeah, Pfizer.
Pfizer, sorry.
ian crossland
So Pfizer, you're saying in this, they admit to engineering certain viruses.
libby emmons
Well, they have to check and see if it works.
tim pool
Right, right, right.
It's not gain of function or directed evolution, it's engineering.
This is the game they play.
ian crossland
You're right, Tim, because when I read this, I also started to fall asleep, especially after that second paragraph where they're like, let us be clear about what we did.
We did not do it, was the way they start off the first thing.
But when they say that they've conducted research where the original SARS-CoV-2, let me get this below this image up here.
has been used to express the spike protein from new variants.
So the original SARS-CoV-2 virus has been used to express the spike protein from new variants. What does that mean?
That just... The use of virus to express a protein in another
variant.
tim pool
It just sounds like what they're saying is when there's a new variant discovered, they take it and then they put it in a dish and, like, grow it so they can have the spike protein.
That doesn't sound like gain-of-function or anything like that.
It's the middle part of the third paragraph, well, second paragraph, where they're like, and in a limited number of cases, if the virus does not contain any known gain-of-function mutations, such a virus may be engineered.
It sounds like they're saying engineered to have gain-of-function mutations.
libby emmons
It does sound like they're saying that.
Come on, man!
I think they are saying that.
But you had Fauci saying for a while that they weren't doing gain-of-function,
and then it was clear that the research that was being funded was gain-of-function research.
tim pool
It says gain-of-function on the research documents.
libby emmons
Yeah, that's what it says.
tim pool
And Rand Paul is like, Dr. Fauci, this document is yours, and it says gain-of-function
research.
unidentified
No, we did not do it!
tim pool
It says right here, gain-of-function.
unidentified
I didn't do it!
libby emmons
Okay, man, I just... And you can see why they would think it's a good idea, right?
You can see why they would think like, okay, we're gonna do research, we're gonna figure out, you know, we're gonna make the virus worse so that we can test our drugs and whatever else.
You can see why they'd think it's a good idea, but that doesn't make it I disagree.
tim pool
I think the potential mutations of a virus have to be infinite.
libby emmons
I don't think it's a good idea.
tim pool
Let's say there's a million potential mutations to the virus.
Why would they mutate it and be like, if we mutate it this way, we can make a vaccine for it this way.
And it's like, oh, so one in a million chance.
You make money off that?
That doesn't make sense to me.
unidentified
I don't know.
matt strickland
To me, it sounds like the quintessential CYA.
They just spent a whole paragraph telling us they're not doing something and just slipped a sentence in there saying, psych, we're doing it.
ian crossland
I was saying before the show to you, Matt, that like, I think the maybe even have like, you know, immunity from the CIA is like, go, you're gonna have to lie on this one.
And you've got all retroactive immunity if it comes out that you were lying in the future.
matt strickland
So I mean, it's public information that Pfizer's got immunity.
I mean, and the reason they have immunity is because our politicians aren't the one running the show here, guys.
And you guys know that.
The people that are funding their campaigns are the ones running their show, and who's at the top of that food chain?
Pfizer.
tim pool
And the pharmaceutical companies.
ian crossland
The people that print the money, basically.
Who's making the money?
Where's the money coming from?
Because those are the people that are divvying out, like the Federal Reserve decides who gets the loans first.
tim pool
Right, so you've got maybe a company that might sound like black crock. And I just said random word I thought of and they
get Federal Reserve loans just pass right along to them to buy
up whatever they want. Companies like these then, you know, I
think we'll invest in packs and super packs, allowing politicians
to get elected. I don't know if if overturning Citizens United
ruling would actually change this it might I'd be interested to hear what people thought about that.
You guys are familiar with Citizens United?
libby emmons
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Basically, super PACs, as long as they don't collude with the candidate, you can donate an infinite number of money and then they can say whatever they want.
So what ends up happening is you get big corporations, they'll go to the candidate and say, are you the guy who's going to help our very important research save America?
Cause we're looking to donate a lot to help that happen.
And then the candidate will be like, well, I don't know nothing about that, but rest assured, I'm a big fan of Pfizer and them helping would sure would be great if I won.
And they go, we get it.
They then go to a super PAC and say, here's $500 million.
We want him.
Super PAC can run a campaign for somebody.
You don't, you have to be involved in it.
They're going to make you win.
libby emmons
Well, Biden is planning to completely increase the medical-industrial complex as part of the Cancer Moonshot Plan.
You know, they're going to put so much money in to create basically a federally-funded, federally-affiliated medical research situation.
tim pool
Wow, that sounds like a good idea.
ian crossland
Disturbing.
libby emmons
Yeah, it's very disturbing.
Yeah.
But that's that's like part of their big plan.
They're going to increase that portion of the federal government, get a whole bunch of researchers on there to do, you know, more stuff like this.
All in the idea that they're going to cure cancer.
I wonder how much cancer they make in labs, you know, that they're then going to try and cure it.
ian crossland
Yeah, well, I mean, a high-acidity lymphatic system can cause the cells to duplicate at a rapid pace, which a lot of scientists call cancer.
Like, if you don't alkalize your lymphatic system, you can feed people sugar and keep making medicine, and then you're doubling down on the profit, because not only are they buying your food, they're buying your medicine.
I can't stand it.
I think that there's some value for Pfizer to be working on, I guess you'd call it, gain
of function in simulations and computer simulations, like a quantum computer.
libby emmons
That's different than the lab thing.
ian crossland
You want millions and billions of potential viral outcomes and then millions and billions
of potential digital cures of viruses in a computer.
Keep it in the computer, because outside, you know, they can leak.
They can leak.
Viruses can leak.
You create something that you're afraid of becoming reality.
You just created the thing that you were afraid of becoming reality.
So, I don't know.
But I mean, I think they're doing it personally.
I think they're just doing it for profit.
I think that companies, because they're allowed to, if someone's allowed to do something, assume that they're going to.
That if they're allowed to make a virus and a medicine for it and profit off that medicine, why would they not?
libby emmons
Well, and once a kind of technology or something like that is created, it will be used.
It's just a matter of time.
ian crossland
The for-profit aspect of it is actually, I mean, it's terrifying.
It's not, it's unethical to profit off of a meta.
unidentified
I don't know.
ian crossland
People profit off of food.
They profit off of food.
tim pool
The food industry is for profit, so… Look, man, I've never been all about laissez-faire capitalism like Luke is.
You know, he likes to come on and he just talks about how capitalism or free market solves everything and there's corporatism and things like that and the government actually intervenes to help major corporations win.
It's not really capitalism, but I genuinely believe that if you have completely unrestricted markets, you're going to get seed oils.
Like, this is my shout out to Luke Rudkowski of We Are Change.
You're not here to defend yourself.
Too bad.
Unrestrained capitalism.
A company's gonna say, look, no one cares about seed oils.
Only these weirdos like Luke Rudkowski are complaining about seed oils.
And they're cheaper?
Use those.
And then everyone's going to start eating them.
And if they get sick, they're not going to know why.
And there's not going to be anything.
They're not going to they're going to keep buying these products.
ian crossland
You got a little stick bug right on your chest there, guy.
Oh, you're coming for me.
What really concerns me is the drug dealers that are making money off this system.
Like Pfizer is a company that deals drugs.
I mean, you might use a different term.
They sell drugs to people.
But like the tobacco industry used to have commercials for kids.
They would target kids with Joe Camel and like they want you to start early and that was the Congress had to step in because the unrestricted capitalism.
libby emmons
You're right about the drugs though and if you look at the data the number of kids and teens that are on Psych meds is incredibly high and a lot of the kids that are on psych meds are like vulnerable kids, like kids in foster care, a lot of boys are on psych meds and a lot of these kids are on medications that are not approved for their age group and they're on multiple drug cocktails that are not approved for their age group as well.
tim pool
I just want to say stink bugs are lucky that they're kind of cute and doofy.
libby emmons
They're not cute?
tim pool
I think they're tremendously cute.
libby emmons
They're creepy.
tim pool
They're not creepy.
They clap, you know that?
libby emmons
I don't like them.
tim pool
They clap.
libby emmons
I don't kill them, but I also don't like them.
tim pool
You kill them, they make a stinky smell.
libby emmons
I don't want anything to do with them.
tim pool
He was on my monitor, but they clap.
I'm not even kidding.
I recorded a segment, and then I was done, and I looked up, and there was a stink bug just going like this.
I'm like, why is it doing this?
libby emmons
Is that some kind of mating call?
tim pool
Probably.
unidentified
Right?
libby emmons
I mean, aren't they all mating calls?
tim pool
They were just like, yo, you complain about Joe Biden so good.
ian crossland
They dance too.
If you watch them, they'll like walk sideways and then walk sideways and keep doing like turn and shake and stuff.
matt strickland
As far as these pharmaceutical companies go, it's insane to me how incentivized doctors are to prescribe a certain medication.
When I was in the military, I was a combat medic.
So I was an infantry medic.
And the first job I got when I got out of the military, I was working at a hospital.
And these pharmaceutical reps would come in and wine and dine these doctors and provide all of us, even us medics, you know, free lunches and such.
And it's just insane to me how incentivized these doctors are to sell those specific products.
And as far as the packs go, They may not be able to deal directly with a candidate, but everybody knows, you know, if it's two or three people removed, they get a hold of these candidates.
And when Matt Gaetz was on the show just a few days ago, he told you guys, he said, the first thing you do when you become a congressman, when you get to D.C., is you sit down at a table with the people who are the leaders in the industry that you want to be on a committee.
And that just shows you right there, it proves to you how corrupt politics are and it lets you know that these politicians that we get pissed off at and that we blame for all of these problems, they're not the ones running the show.
It's these lobbyists and these PACs in the pharmaceutical industry.
I mean, those guys are at the top of that food chain.
tim pool
It's a lot of companies.
The military industrial complex?
matt strickland
Absolutely.
tim pool
You got Lockheed, you got Boeing, you got Halliburton.
I mean, the list goes on.
libby emmons
what you were saying too about hospitals and pharmaceutical reps. When I finished college,
I worked for a small medical office and I was doing insurance paperwork. That was my job.
But these pharmaceutical reps would come in almost every day and they would bring lunch for the
entire office and they'd just spill sample cases full of their drugs all over the place. And it's
so weird. You're right. They used to target kids with tobacco advertising. And now, anytime you
watch TV, there's half a dozen drug advertisements. And you listen to the list and my son and I will
joke about it. He'll be like, oh, this drug for depression, mom, it cures your depression,
but you might have increased thoughts of suicide. And it's like, oh, okay.
tim pool
Isn't that the opposite of what it's supposed to do?
libby emmons
And you listen to it, and it's like, this will help you lose weight, but you might want to kill yourself.
Or sleeping drugs, and it's like, you may forget that you got up and drove your car while you were on this drug, so be careful with that.
And why are we seeing all of these advertisements for major pharmaceutical drugs that can make you think you're sleeping while actually you're driving your car?
tim pool
The best thing is when they don't actually tell you what the drug does.
Right, and they never do!
libby emmons
They're like, ask your doctor, and you're like, about what?
tim pool
Yeah, I remember seeing a commercial, I can't remember, y'all have probably seen commercials like this where it's like an old guy and he's like looking sad and it's like the color's gray and it's like, feeling down?
Maybe Clovestal is right for you and then he's smiling and then he's like walking through a park and it's like, ask your doctor today about Clovestal.
No!
I don't know what you're selling me!
unidentified
Yeah.
And the drug names are so bizarre, like Successra.
matt strickland
It's the reason they made pill boxes, because you need a pill to remedy the side effects from this pill, and then you need another pill to remedy the side effects from that pill, and it just goes on and on and on, and that's why they created pill boxes.
tim pool
This one makes the pain go away, but also makes you want to die.
This one makes you not want to die, but could also make you think about wanting to die.
So then you have this one here that actually makes you forget what's going on so that you don't remember wanting to die.
ian crossland
Side effect, it might cause pain.
So back to the original pill, might have to double your prescription.
You know, I think when the oxycodone epidemic in the 90s, late 90s, this is the oxy, this is the, this is what you would call the, what would you call it?
What kind of drug is that?
libby emmons
It was like an opiate.
I remember actually, I was trying to buy weed and the guy didn't have any weed and he was like, oh, here, take this.
And it was an Oxycontin.
And I was out for like two days.
matt strickland
You had no idea what it was?
libby emmons
No, yeah, I was an idiot.
I was an idiot, obviously.
Nobody else should ever do that.
ian crossland
Especially today with fentanyl, people have been dying from overdosing on fentanyl that they think is like a... I don't get the whole fentanyl thing.
libby emmons
Isn't it a prescription drug?
Like, how did it get in all the street drugs?
Like, how did this happen?
ian crossland
It's both prescription and street.
libby emmons
China.
matt strickland
I'm telling you, so in 2012, I had a vasectomy in 2012, and first time I ever took any kind of painkillers.
So they gave me Percocet and Vicodin.
tim pool
Oh man.
libby emmons
That's a lot of painkillers.
matt strickland
That's a lot of painkillers.
tim pool
Percocet's powerful stuff.
matt strickland
I took two.
And I flushed them down the toilet.
And the reason I flushed them down the toilet is because it was like the best drunkness you've ever had without the hangover.
tim pool
Happened to me.
matt strickland
And I was like, this is dangerous.
So I just, I had to flush them down the toilet.
ian crossland
And it's in the freaking water supply because people are flushing them down.
tim pool
Well, I don't know if that persists.
Might get filtered out.
But in 2014, I had a kidney stone.
And there's nothing they can do for you.
I mean, if it's like really bad, you might get surgery, but it wasn't really that bad.
It just, it hurts.
And also people don't understand.
Let me tell you guys, it's, it's inside your body.
It's not like, you know, you're going to the bathroom one day and you're like, there's something jammed up in, you know, my, my schlong or something.
You're, you're at the doctor's and it, I would like, it's either appendicitis or like they thought it was appendicitis.
And then I went in, like, pain in my abdomen, and they were like,
yeah, it's your kidneys released like a small rock.
And they were like, nothing we can do about it.
Here's a bottle of pills.
And I took one, and you nailed it.
matt strickland
Felt awesome.
tim pool
And I never took another one.
ian crossland
You wrote a song about it.
At least that's one of the songs you were telling me about it.
Was that a guy?
A guy searching for the fix, at least that was one of them.
tim pool
Oh, that was written a long time before this.
ian crossland
That was wild.
tim pool
But this is, like the feeling you get from it was so intense that I did the same thing you did.
I didn't flush it down the toilet, I just threw it away.
matt strickland
But the point is that, so I flushed it down the toilet, and I just took Motrin, and guess what?
I was absolutely fine.
That's all I needed.
So these doctors, they're just pushing this medication, just shoving it down your throat.
libby emmons
Well, it's not only the medication, it's surgery.
It's like at one point I hurt my back, like after my son was born, and I saw two doctors and they were like, you need back surgery.
And I was like, no, no, I do not need back surgery.
matt strickland
Well look at Hulk Hogan, he's paralyzed now.
tim pool
Yeah, we were just talking about it before the show, Hulk Hogan's paralyzed.
libby emmons
I had a doctor, I went in because I was having trouble sleeping and she prescribed me sleeping pills which then gave me nightmares and I also couldn't sleep and then I bought new pillows.
Like I literally bought new pillows and I didn't have an issue ever, like ever after that.
ian crossland
You know, the reason I brought up the opiate crisis, and some people call it an epidemic, because, is, do you see what the Sackler family did to humanity for profit in the 90s and 2000s?
libby emmons
That was crazy.
ian crossland
So that's the example of what pharmaceutical companies- And their name is all over everything.
I know, you would think at this point people would realize, oh, that family is demonic.
I'm not like a good and evil kind of guy, I'm not that binary, but when you see pharmaceutical companies eradicating the population for profit, I gotta wonder if maybe they're evil or doing something wrong.
libby emmons
They're the oxy people, right?
ian crossland
Yeah, the oxycodone, they created it.
Oxytocin.
It's supposed to be like a feel-good chemical.
libby emmons
I think that's why they named it that.
It's like the orgasm.
ian crossland
Manipulation tactics.
So you would think people would be so awakened to the pharmaceutical company's attempt at profits that they would be eye-opening and gazing at Pfizer right now with a microscope.
libby emmons
Well, what's weird is they came down so hard on tobacco, right?
But they don't come down, they like praise the pharmaceutical industry for all that they're doing for humanity.
And the pharmaceutical industry is getting all this federal funding.
ian crossland
You know, hey, breathing and burning smoke obviously is bad for you, so that's an easy target.
libby emmons
I mean, look at how much money we're paying up for that stuff with, like, all the COVID tests and all that crap.
tim pool
Considering we're ragging on these big pharmaceuticals, let's jump to this story from Fox News.
Zachary Levy sparks Twitter controversy over claim that Pfizer is a danger to the world.
Hardcore agree.
I love this.
Here's a tweet.
Lyndon Wood said, do you agree or not that Pfizer is a real danger to the world?
He said, hardcore agree.
And liberals went nuts.
Okay, one less movie ticket to spend money on, stupid!
Seriously, guys?
He didn't like a massive multinational pharmaceutical corporation that's been fined some of the largest fines in history?
$2.3 billion plus another $430 million from five years prior?
They didn't learn their lesson.
They got fined like $200 million in, I think it was in 2001 or something like that.
They got fined $430 million in 2004.
Then they got fined again in 2009, and it was 2.3 billion dollars.
And my question is, at a certain point, why don't you shut them down?
You're committing crimes over and over again, you're done.
When a human being commits a crime, we say we take you from your job, your job is no longer being done, we put you in a box, we close it, you can't go out.
With these corporations?
Well, it depends on the severity of the crime.
libby emmons
Sure.
tim pool
But if we're talking about a crime against humanity on the scale of 2.3 billion dollar fine, because they were selling off, you know, off... I can't remember exactly what they were doing, but they were like...
Misleading the public as to what their drugs were doing or something like that.
matt strickland
That lets you know how crooked it is because at my restaurant, if there was case after case after case after case of people getting sick after eating at my restaurant, I'd be shut down and there'd be no question about it.
tim pool
If you ran a company, if you were in a restaurant, And that restaurant was dealing drugs out of the back door.
They would shut it down, every employee fired.
I mean, it's like, sorry, this company's committing crimes.
And you know what it could be?
It could be one manager who's been doing it, and they shut the thing down.
And they say, no, no, no, this is a criminal enterprise.
And then the people are just like, I don't know, man, I just make burgers.
Like, too bad, you lose your job.
But when a pharmaceutical company does it, this is the reality of the world, they're too big to fail, so the government says, just give us a cut of the profit, and keep doing what you're doing.
ian crossland
So for the record, Pfizer got fined $2.3 billion for misbranding Bextra, the drug Bextra, with the intent to defraud or mislead the attempt, essentially according to- What was Bextra for?
Justice.gov.
I'm not sure what it was for.
tim pool
Hold on.
Is that the $2.3 billion one?
ian crossland
$2.3 billion.
They were selling it off-label, meaning that they didn't get FDA approval for the things they were selling it for.
They had only had approval for the original thing.
And actually, the FDA had declined to give it approval for the things that they were selling it for off-the-label, according to Justice.gov.
A big, big, big mishandling of public trust.
libby emmons
There's also a situation where there's this drug Lupron that's used for prostate cancer and things like this, and it's being used off-label as a drug to give children to block puberty for gender dysphoria.
And it's also used for precocious puberty in like some cases, but it's only recommended for three months at a time.
And so it's not FDA approved for use in children for more than three months for this extra purpose, this gender dysphoria purpose, but no one says anything about it and Lupron's sales continue to increase.
They don't recommend the drug for that purpose, but they certainly just keep taking the money.
This company, AbbVie, which makes a ton of drugs.
tim pool
This is how it works with big corporations.
Typically, the government just says, look, give us our cut and you can keep doing it.
A company does something that's illegal, makes $10 million.
FTC says it's a $5 million fine, sir.
And they go, oh, jeez, I guess I got to pay you.
Have a nice day.
And they put $5 million in their pocket.
ian crossland
I should specify, Cis, here that the FDA, when it came to Bextra, specifically declined to approve.
So I think that they didn't say, this is bad, I think they just didn't give it an approval.
But they went ahead and used it anyway.
tim pool
Zachary Levy, is it Levi?
Is it Levy?
Is it Levy?
libby emmons
Dunno.
tim pool
I'll call him Levy.
He was getting ragged on and attacked by the left.
So he tweeted, just one example of what I'm referring to, and it's at justice.gov, the largest, what is it, largest healthcare fraud settlement in history.
It's not anymore, I think there's a, was it GlaxoSmithKline's now the biggest, yeah, three billion something.
But, and that was later on.
But they're still attacking this guy over it.
It's like, You're not going to go see Shazam next?
You know what I'm going to do?
I'm going to buy two tickets to Shazam!
And if nobody takes it, just pay for it.
I'm going to give the DC Universe, Warner Bros.
money.
Because they got a guy leading a movie who didn't say anything anti-vax, just said, hey man, be wary of these massive multinational corporations, they're dangerous.
I respect that.
And that's the kind of marketing I think movies should be all about.
So you know, I'll buy two tickets.
I'll buy two tickets for you.
ian crossland
Thanks.
I won't see it, but yeah.
Okay.
Oh, maybe I will then.
tim pool
Oh, we got tickets to go.
Oh, no, we don't have tickets.
We have tickets to see Quantumania.
No, I really do want to see Shazam, Fury of the Gods.
I'm really excited.
The first Shazam was awesome.
libby emmons
I don't know anything about Shazam.
tim pool
It's a DC superhero.
Billy Batson's a little kid.
Wizard gives him the power of Shazam.
It's a bunch of gods.
Shazam is that like the wisdom of Solomon the strength of Hercules the the you know something I don't know.
ian crossland
He's fast like lightning.
tim pool
So he's a little kid and then he yells Shazam and gets struck by lightning and then turns into a big huge dude and it's it's fun and funny it was like the only DC movie that was actually a bit irreverent.
libby emmons
I like the funny ones.
That's why I liked Guardians of the Galaxy.
tim pool
Yes.
libby emmons
It's funny.
tim pool
You haven't seen Shazam?
You'll like it.
libby emmons
No.
I'll check it out.
tim pool
It's fun.
libby emmons
Can I take my kid?
Probably.
tim pool
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
libby emmons
He'll be like, oh, nice.
We're going to see something I like.
tim pool
But you can see the first one.
The first one's out.
libby emmons
Okay.
tim pool
It was like the best performing DC movie, I think, because they're all garbage.
This one actually was good.
And the second one's coming out.
And all these liberals are yelling like one month before the movie comes out, this guy's an anti-vaxxer.
And it's like, I didn't say any of that!
You guys are nuts!
libby emmons
Well, the thing is, like, these Hollywood people, they need you all to comply with their viewpoint or else they're gonna yell at you.
And it's like, there's no reason to comply with anyone's viewpoint.
Think for yourself.
Every single time.
I mean, obviously.
ian crossland
It's like making a song.
This is why the Beatles were so great.
John and Paul did not work in lockstep.
They didn't sing harmonics of their words.
They sang two totally different songs together to create a mega song.
And we need more of that with arguments.
libby emmons
Who do you think was better?
John or Paul?
ian crossland
John.
libby emmons
Really?
ian crossland
I mean, John Lennon's one of my ultimate personal top three heroes.
tim pool
Well, here's the reality.
ian crossland
George Washington and Einstein, probably.
tim pool
Paul was poppy.
John Lennon was cool.
And so together, that was a powerful force.
unidentified
John's willing to speak out against the military-industrial complex before it was cool.
libby emmons
He had the cool glasses.
tim pool
Think about Paul's songs.
Was that one he wrote years ago?
libby emmons
Which one?
unidentified
He's written so many.
tim pool
It's all like super poppy.
libby emmons
It is very poppy.
ian crossland
Yeah, he was the pop star of the band.
tim pool
And John Lennon is all like, Vietnam is wrong.
ian crossland
You know, kids are getting dark, angry, got beat up when he was a kid, like just a rough life.
Love that guy.
Do you know what?
I want to add some nuance to what Zachary was saying about Pfizer being evil.
I think that what happens is unfettered drug dealers are dangerous or evil.
Not all.
Because marijuana is a different beast.
Caffeine is a different beast.
They're both drugs.
THC and caffeine.
libby emmons
Yeah, but unfettered, it's really bad.
I mean, like, there's unfettered marijuana sales in New York City right now.
You can't walk down the street without smelling it.
Like, every bodega has unregulated marijuana sales.
You don't have any idea what is being purchased or what is being sold.
You don't have to show ID.
There's absolutely no regulation.
And the city is trying to shut it down now and be like, no, we're only going to give weed licenses to people who were formerly incarcerated or, you know, on drug charges.
But it's been like over a year.
You can't tell the bodegas they have to stop selling loose pre-rolled joints now.
They're not going to.
And it's unregulated, it's unfettered, and it's not a good situation.
ian crossland
Yeah, Pfizer's a result of an unfettered system where they can have immunity.
Like, Moderna's right there in the shadows.
If you want to take down, spend the next 10 years taking down Pfizer, Moderna.
It's next, and it's gonna be the exact same problem.
matt strickland
It blows my mind that there's regular people on Twitter defending Pfizer.
I can't believe that.
I mean, it's the same.
Well, probably not.
But it's the same cycle when it comes to these pharmaceutical companies.
It's create a medicine or vaccine or whatever, cause injuries, destroy lives, make $30 billion, fine $3 billion, rinse and repeat.
tim pool
Well, that's the thing I was saying about what we were just reading with the off-label, the intentional misleading.
These are companies that, if you pull up, there's the Wikipedia list of all of the crimes committed by these corporations.
So the real issue for me is these people aren't doctors.
I mean, they're technically doctors, but you have a doctor that you talk to when you're like, yo, I got a bum knee.
They know your medical history.
They know your family.
If you get a good one, you've had them for a long time.
The problem is when, you mentioned earlier, they go and lobby the doctors and they say, I told this story earlier.
I was skating when I was like 16 and I hit my knee and I heard it and I'm like, I better get it checked out.
Doctor says, ah, it's a sprain or a strain or something.
You're fine.
Here.
And then he handed me a whole bunch of sample packets of an anti-inflammatory steroid.
Methylprednisone, I think it was.
libby emmons
My goodness!
tim pool
And he was like, just take a couple of these.
And they were sample packs.
And he just threw them at me.
And then I was like, whatever you say, doc.
libby emmons
And I'm like... My doctor did that with birth control pills.
unidentified
Yes!
tim pool
Like in little sample packs?
libby emmons
Yeah, like a ton of them.
Like, here, just take all these.
tim pool
You know, this was my family's doctor.
libby emmons
And when I was 16.
tim pool
And you know what ended up happening is I was like, okay, so I took a couple of them and then I didn't notice anything.
And the next day I was like, I don't know, I just didn't take them.
And then I ended up just getting better because I was a kid who, you know, I banged my knee.
I was skating, I fell, hit my knee and I couldn't bend it.
And so it like swole up or something and it turned out to be nothing legitimately serious or anything like that.
But I just kind of, I don't know, man, it's kind of weird to me.
You've got to make sure you've got a good, trusted doctor.
It's just that.
You've got to make sure that when they hand you some samples or whatever, you ask them, what does it do?
Why do I need it?
And if they can't answer and they're like, well, it was given to me, then maybe you've got a salesman and not a doctor.
So find someone who can give you good advice and talk to you about it.
But actually, Matt, I want to talk to you about what you went through because we're talking about all the big pharma stuff.
But I'm curious, when all the lockdowns happened, there were a handful of businesses that stood up and said no.
You ran one of these businesses that the government tried to shut down.
You resisted.
And the first thing I just want to say is this is a story that I'm excited for you to tell because we've long told people Non-violent civil disobedience, stand up for what you believe in, file the lawsuits, file the complaints, make them work for their oppression or whatever, and you will win.
And you won.
They tried to shut you down, they hurt your business, they hurt you, but then in the end you ended up winning out.
So tell us exactly what went down with your business, how that started.
matt strickland
Yeah, well, so as soon as COVID started, I was actually at the at the time, I was still working as an intelligence analyst for the military, just to supplement my income, you know, because when you when you start a restaurant, you're not off to the races, you know, automatically making money.
So when COVID happened in March of 2020, they shut my entire program down that I was working on.
And I was working on a pretty intense, a pretty serious program that had a lot of national security implications.
So when they sent all of us home and they shut the entire SCIF down, I paid attention and I said, well, this must be something serious.
This must be a virus that's going to kill half the world, like they're saying.
So I took it serious and I listened to the recommendations of, at that time, Governor Northam and I shut my restaurant down.
Took a step back because I wanted to be responsible and didn't want to put my customers in harm's way.
Nobody knew at that time what was going on.
So it wasn't long after that, maybe a month or so, that I started to realize something weird was going on.
And then three months after, June of 2020, Governor Northam said, OK, restaurants, you can open back up, but under these provisions.
And that's when it clicked.
I said, wait a minute.
This is more about control than it is our health and safety.
And it was because they put mandates in place like you have to wear a mask when you walk in the restaurant, but as soon as you sit down somehow you're safe from covid and nobody's allowed to sit at my bar, but I could pull the table up to the bar and you can sit there and my bartender couldn't hand a drink over the bar.
My bartender had to walk around the bar and serve it to the person side-by-side.
Just very arbitrary mandates that made absolutely no sense and so like I said I spent my entire adult life fighting dictatorships overseas and I wasn't going to come home and allow a dictatorship to rule.
So I did the only thing I could do and that was fight back by not complying.
Civil disobedience.
And I kind of Did that kind of under the radar at first.
I didn't announce it.
My customers just knew that when they came to Gore Melts, they were walking into what America used to be pre-COVID.
They were walking into freedom.
tim pool
A safe space.
matt strickland
A safe space.
There you go.
And I operated that way actually from June of 2020 to January of 2021.
I would get a call from the health department maybe once a month or so and they would say, hey Matt, we got a call from one of your customers that said you're not following COVID mandates.
And I would never confirm or deny it.
And at that time, the health inspectors, they weren't allowed to come out and inspect.
So none of them ever came, came out to my restaurant.
So I would just say, Oh, thanks for the call.
I appreciate that.
And they would just say, Oh yeah, you know, just, you know, follow COVID mandates.
And I'd be like, Oh, okay, cool.
Whatever.
And it went like that until January 2021.
Now, what happened in January was Biden took office.
And when he took office, as you guys know, he started firing off all of these executive orders.
One of those executive orders mandated OSHA come out in conjunction with local health departments and shut down restaurants specifically that weren't following COVID mandates.
And that's when I got my first visit from the health department and OSHA.
And they said, hey, Matt, you're not following COVID mandates.
And I said, no, no, I'm not.
I said, because they don't make any sense.
I said, if you can make them make sense to me, common sense, because I'm all about common sense.
I've never been a very political guy.
I've never trusted politicians on either side of the aisle, to be honest with you.
And I just want things to make sense.
And what he told me is really what set the wheels in motion.
He said, well, Matt, it doesn't have to make sense.
The governor said you have to do it, so you have to do it.
And at that point, I said, absolutely not.
This is not how things work in America.
And he said, well, we'll come back and we'll suspend your health department license.
And I said, well, you do what you have to do, but I'm going to do what I know I have to do, and that is afford my customers their constitutional rights.
And at that point I told him, I said, At this point, you were trespassing, so if you don't leave my property, I'll have you removed.
And he left, but he made good on his promise and he came back about two weeks later, served me with the suspension papers, suspended my health department license.
And in the state of Virginia, if your health department license is suspended, your alcohol license, your ABC license, is automatically suspended.
So I lost both of those that day.
And I continued to operate business as usual.
I didn't comply.
And at that point I made a video and I put it out to the public what was going on and I let them know that I would not be complying.
And the main reason is because, like I said before, I spent a lot of my time, a lot of my adult life fighting Overseas and I have a lot of brothers that went overseas with me and didn't make it back.
A lot of guys have died over there and their kids are growing up right now here in the United States of America because they felt that America was more important than their life.
So if I'm not willing to put my livelihood on the line when those guys are willing to put their life on the line, then what kind of man am I?
And my wife and I, we always teach our kids to do what's right, no matter what the personal cost is to them.
So how in the hell are we going to teach them that if we're not willing to do the same thing ourselves?
So those are the main reasons why I fought back.
And because I did that, they sued me.
Governor Northam sued me and he took me to court and tried to shut my business down.
But I didn't back down, and it was overwhelming the response from the community that showed up after that.
I mean, I had people coming from across the nation to support me.
I had one guy come all the way, I remember, from Iowa.
Now, my restaurant, Gore Melts, is right off of Interstate 95 in Virginia, not even a mile from the exit.
So it's very convenient.
So I get a lot of people that come by all the time just passing through.
So this guy came up to me and he said, hey, I'm from Iowa.
And I said, well, you just passing through or what?
And he said, no.
I flew out here just to come to your restaurant and shake your hand and look you in the eye and thank you for what you were doing.
And he started crying.
And that right there, man, it got me.
It let me know at that point that I was doing the right thing.
Because when you make a decision like my wife and I made, which was to fight back, you have no idea which way it's going to go.
We thought it was going to be the end of our business.
We thought it was going to be the end of everything we worked our entire life for.
But the community showed up and they supported us and we had a line out the door from open to close.
And by 7pm we had no food left.
All we had was bread.
And people were walking up to the register saying, give me a piece of bread and I'll pay full price for it.
tim pool
Wow, that's amazing.
matt strickland
And it just blew my mind.
And we continued to fight back.
And I reached out to my Republican representatives in Virginia.
Because they're supposed to be conservative patriots that stand for the Constitution.
And all I was doing was standing for the Constitution, standing for my customers' constitutional rights.
And I was very disappointed that none of my Republican representatives reached back out to me.
Long story short, I said, how do I get rid of these scumbags?
How do I make sure?
Because they run around saying Democrats are ruining the country, and they are.
But these Republicans that are sitting on their hands, not willing to step up and fight for you and me, they're no better than those Democrats.
That's the establishment we talk about.
The Uniparty is absolutely real.
tim pool
In the end, you got back your liquor license, your health license, and all that stuff?
matt strickland
So what happened is we go to court with the health department and I beat the health department in court.
I proved that these mandates were in fact unconstitutional and they had to give me my health department license back.
libby emmons
Good.
matt strickland
So the next step was the ABC.
We go before the ABC board to get my ABC license back and we thought it would be, you know, cut and dry, open and shut.
Hey, you took my ABC license only because the Virginia Department of Health took my health department license.
Well, we beat them in court, and they had to give me that license back, so now in turn, you should have to give me my ABC license back.
Makes sense, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
matt strickland
Well, it's a very liberal ABC board.
Now, at this time, we had a change of governors in Virginia.
So Governor Youngkin took over.
So now, Ralph Northam is no longer the governor.
We got a Republican governor, Republican lieutenant governor, and Republican attorney general.
So I go before the ABC board, and it's a very liberal ABC board, and what they said was, in a nutshell, basically was, Matt, it doesn't matter that you beat the Department of Health, and that's the only reason we took your license.
It doesn't matter that the reason they took it was unconstitutional.
All that matters is we took it, and you didn't comply.
And that word comply kept coming up.
And they said, so for that reason, we're not going to give you your license back.
And I said, well, Roger that, then I don't need a license.
And I continued to sell alcohol without it.
unidentified
Wow.
matt strickland
And I immediately, as soon as Glenn Youngkin took office, I reached out to him and I heard nothing back from him.
tim pool
We all saw the video where you're filming and the ABC guys come in and the cops come in and they're raiding and looting your private property of alcohol.
So what finally happened?
What is this?
matt strickland
Yeah well the reason they came out and raided my place is because like I said I was reaching out to the governor since he took office and by that time I announced my run for state senate to come crush the establishment and Republican leadership they don't like when a Republican candidate speaks out against other Republicans but I have no idea why.
You should speak out against any politician that's not doing their job.
So for that reason They didn't reach out and help me.
They left me to the wolves, and I heard nothing back from the governor's office or the attorney general's office until December 2nd of 2022, this past December, when the Virginia State Police and the Virginia ABC agents came and raided my restaurant and took every drop of alcohol out of my restaurant.
ian crossland
That's where you're at right now?
matt strickland
Well, so that's the viral video that you guys saw.
And so what happened after that is We were going back and forth and they were trying to settle with me, but I've always stayed strong in my stance in that I will not settle with you.
I didn't do anything illegal.
libby emmons
I didn't do anything wrong.
What do they want?
What kind of settle do they want at this point?
I mean, the whole thing's over.
matt strickland
Yeah, well so you know they've always you know they were offering me you know
hey Matt instead of 90 days of suspension and a $15,000 fine or
whatever it was, no suspension of your license and just give us two
Oh my goodness.
libby emmons
And we'll make it go away.
A little extortion.
tim pool
A little shakedown.
libby emmons
Yeah.
matt strickland
Exactly.
And it's all about them wanting to get a win and that's it.
And so I said, listen, I stood strong.
Hey, no settlement at all.
And they kept coming back with settlement offers.
I said, you know what?
I will settle with you.
I said, I'll pay you $17.76.
And I was hoping like hell they took that just to remind them of freedom.
libby emmons
This is like Michael Corleone when he says, you know, my offer is this nothing.
matt strickland
That's right.
So of course they didn't take it.
And I said, well, listen, man, you guys aren't getting a dime from me.
I am not going to serve a suspension.
And I'll tell you what.
After I reopen my restaurant for Christmas, because I'll be closed for Christmas, when I reopen after Christmas, I'm gonna open my bar back up, and I'm gonna sell alcohol, and I'm operating business as usual.
And magically, before I close for Christmas, December 23rd, and I told him, I said, hey listen, if Glenn Youngkin and the rest of the Republican leadership in Virginia, if you guys are ready for the political shitstorm that follows you arresting A small business owner who's also a veteran that fought for his country.
If you're ready for that political shitstorm, I'm ready to go to jail.
Because a lot of my brothers were ready to die for this country and they did.
So, I've been ready to die for my country since I was 17 years old.
So, I'm damn sure ready to go to jail for my country.
So, at that point, it was a Mexican standoff, man.
And they folded.
December 23rd, they gave me all of my alcohol back, they gave me my ABC license back, and I didn't pay a dime.
tim pool
When did we go down there?
unidentified
What was that?
tim pool
That was before this, right?
matt strickland
That was before that.
So, remember, we were planning a party.
tim pool
Right, right, right.
matt strickland
Yeah.
So, I told you, I said, hey Tim, this is my plan.
I said, regardless of what happens, the day we open after Christmas, we're going to be selling alcohol, man.
Let's throw a party down here.
And we were planning that.
And magically, they said, you know what, never mind.
They tapped out and they said... They brought your booze back.
December 23rd, you get everything back.
unidentified
Wow.
libby emmons
You would have made them look so bad.
tim pool
I mean, you made them look bad.
And good.
ian crossland
What happened in the early days when you were resisting the initial stuff?
What was the process?
Day one, you didn't shut down.
Were they, like, fining you every day?
And then in retrospect, they just dismissed the fines?
What was happening day to day?
I feel other people are going through this.
matt strickland
Yeah, I mean, so I was fined over $70,000 by OSHA for having an unsafe work environment.
ian crossland
Was that a day-by-day fine that added up to $70,000?
matt strickland
It was just arbitrary fines that they just made up.
So they sent me this piece of paper that said, oh, hey, Matt, for not making people wear a mask, we're fining you $20,000.
For not putting up plexiglass, we're fining you $35,000, or whatever it was.
Where the hell did you get those numbers from?
You just made them up?
libby emmons
And where'd you get these regulations?
I mean, they're totally arbitrary.
Plexiglass is gonna do something.
matt strickland
Yeah, it's just insane.
So when that ocean inspector actually came out to my restaurant, he said, you got to put plexiglass up.
I said, okay, I want to know the regulation.
How wide does the plexiglass have to be?
And he said, well, actually, in the regulation, there's nothing that says how wide it has to be.
I said, well, so you're telling me If I put a one-inch strip of plexiglass up, I'm technically in compliance?
And he said, well, technically, yeah.
And I said, listen, man, take your OSHA hat off for one second and just talk to me man-to-man.
Does that make any sense to you?
And again, he said, man, it doesn't have to make sense.
That's what they said, so you have to do it.
tim pool
Psychotic.
libby emmons
That's not how the American government is supposed to work.
matt strickland
That's how they work.
That's how they do it.
libby emmons
That's not what we signed up for.
matt strickland
What my story proves, what it proves is that if you stand up and you fight back, no matter how much they try to back you into a corner and bully you, if we stand together, because I wouldn't have won this by myself.
If it was just me, Matt Strickland, fighting, I'd be in prison right now.
But the people of America stood with me from across the nation.
I mean, they came out of the woodworks and supported me.
And the only thing that politicians The only thing that they answer to is political pressure.
And I mean, everybody knows Glenn Young is trying to run for president now.
And so they inundated his office with emails and phone calls.
He couldn't make a social media post without somebody jumping on his post saying, hey, what about Matt Strickland?
What about Gore Meltz?
And they caved to that political pressure.
They didn't want to help me because I stand up against not only Democrats but Republicans also.
But the political pressure was enough from across the nation that they had no choice but to act.
ian crossland
I think part of what's What's great about the story is, too, you were willing to comply in the early days, in the very beginning, when you didn't know if it was airborne Ebola, where people were gonna, their skin was gonna start melting off.
You didn't know, and you were ready to make the sacrifice for the betterment of the people.
And then when the evidence starts coming in, then it's like, okay, now realism and common sense takes over.
As it did in the beginning, too.
I think that's why I was willing to shut down for two weeks, to slow the spread.
tim pool
But on top of that, you'd walk into a restaurant, And you'd walk in the front door, and they would say, please put on a mask.
You'd say, okay, you put it on.
They'd hand you one.
You'd wear it, and they'd say, now the chair right next to you, please sit and take the mask off.
Then you take it off, throw it in the garbage.
libby emmons
And then you're supposed to put it back on to walk to the bathroom.
Do you remember this?
You were supposed to put it back on to walk to the bathroom.
tim pool
We had a plan here we never got around to, because, you know, and West Virginia was fairly lax, and then they ended up lifting it, but what we wanted to do was get full hazmat suits, walk in, sit down, take the full suit off, Or like, go to your table, take the full suit off, place it on the chair next to you, sit down, order food, and then go, I'm gonna run to the bathroom real quick.
Put the full suit back on, zip it up, and then walk slowly and awkwardly.
Just to make the point.
libby emmons
Yeah, it was ridiculous.
tim pool
It's like, there's that comic where the person's walking and the COVID virus hits them in the face, and then it shows them sitting down with like a check mark.
libby emmons
And it just goes right over their head.
tim pool
Yeah, right on their head.
Exactly.
libby emmons
And it's interesting, too, how you talk about how it was June 2020 that they said you could open your restaurant again, and they hit you with all of these arbitrary arbitrary restrictions of what you had to do in your
restaurant.
That's of course after George Floyd was killed, and it was after the entire government of all the blue
states decided that you can't get COVID if you're protesting for
Black Lives Matter, but you can get COVID if you go to a restaurant that doesn't
have plexiglass.
tim pool
You know what you should have done?
You should have just put up a BLM flag.
And then they'd say, you know what, you're good.
No fine for you.
matt strickland
I mean, it's funny you guys say that because, of course, I was trashed online for not following COVID mandates and people who have never met me a day in my life We're saying all kinds of things about me, and somehow, just because I didn't make people wear a mask when they walked into my restaurant, I was racist.
libby emmons
That was the crazy thing, too.
It's always racist.
Whenever you don't comply, when you don't just do what you're told, then you're racist.
As though there's no black people who want to stand up for their rights.
tim pool
Aliens are trying to control us but don't quite understand humans.
Humans don't like being called racists, so no matter what they do, call it racists.
And really, it's not aliens, it's children.
You know what the best part about the internet is?
On the internet, you're not aware you're arguing with a 14-year-old.
They're adult men.
In their 40s who work for major news outlets who go on Twitter, and there's an account called like, you know, Trump Maga 300.
And it'll be a picture of Trump going like, yeah.
And then it'll say something like, you're stupid, your politics are bad.
And they'll be like, who is this guy?
You're so you can't say that to me.
And it's like a 14 year old kid is just laughing.
I have no idea what's going on.
ian crossland
He's like a licker to me.
11 year old kid.
libby emmons
It could be my kid.
tim pool
Yep, just goofing off on the internet.
Don't even care.
unidentified
These people take it so seriously.
matt strickland
The DDM on my team in Iraq, the sniper, when we'd have downtime, he'd go on and play Call of Duty.
I remember when he told me one morning, he was arguing with a 12-year-old on Call of Duty.
He showed me the game.
He said, look at this dude.
Look what he's saying, man.
You suck.
You have no idea what real combat is.
You don't know how to shoot.
That's what the kid was saying to him.
The dude is a sniper.
ian crossland
You know what I mean?
Looking back over the last couple years for yourself, is there anything that you would have done or would have changed in the process?
I know it seems to have turned out extremely well, but for people in the future that are willing to stand up to create civil disobedience, is there anything that you can help with?
matt strickland
Yeah, well, first of all, what I would have done earlier is pay attention to politics.
I did not pay attention to politics like I do now.
And I run it for State Senate now.
And if anybody wants to follow my journey on that, they can follow me on social media at Matt4VA.
And my website is matt4va.com if you want to see how that turns out.
But I'm ashamed to say, and I was telling you guys this before the show, the first time I ever voted was in 2020.
And the reason for that is because I don't trust politicians on either side of the aisle.
And so pay attention to politics, especially on the state level, because that's where you make your money.
But as far as fighting against COVID mandates and such, I truly believe it will happen again.
Maybe not in the same shape and form that it happened this last time, but the government trying to take control of our rights.
I mean, so one of the mandates in Virginia was you weren't allowed to leave your house between the hours of midnight and 5 a.m.
How is that curbing COVID?
How does that do anything for COVID?
libby emmons
That's when COVID is active.
A guy was surfing.
tim pool
Remember the guy on the beach or whatever?
libby emmons
Oh, he was arrested for surfing by himself.
tim pool
Remember the video where the guy's jogging on the beach and the cop chases after him and the jogger just speeds up and just bolts and the cop can't catch him?
matt strickland
It's just insane.
ian crossland
That sounds more like an anti-rioting thing.
matt strickland
Yeah, it just makes no sense.
So what I would say is what you need to do the next time something doesn't feel right is trust your gut.
And you need to stand up and you need to fight back from the beginning.
And not only that, Everybody needs to support you, especially small business owners.
You would be surprised how many restauranteurs in the state of Virginia had called me as soon as they heard about my story.
And they would say, hey Matt, thank you so much for standing up and doing what you're doing.
I'm totally behind you 100%.
What can I do to support you?
And I would tell each and every one of them, if you believe in what I'm doing, the best thing you can do to support me is do the same thing.
And they would all say the same thing.
libby emmons
They wouldn't do it?
tim pool
Not me!
matt strickland
But I don't want the health department breathing down my neck, man.
And I said, listen, with that attitude, they're going to be breathing down your neck the rest of your life, man.
libby emmons
Well, wasn't that the shocking thing, too, was how many people just did comply?
I found that so stunning how many Americans just sucked it up and did what they were told, and I found that extremely disappointing for my fellow countrymen to watch them just, like, capitulate and do what the government told them to do.
It's like, that's not what we're founded on.
We're founded on telling the government exactly that we're not going to do what they tell us to.
ian crossland
I feel like video games has made people really Willing to comply, because in a game, there's a structure and a set of rules that you cannot bypass.
You're stuck within this realm of, like, if-then.
But in reality, you have complete freedom.
You can go anywhere, see anything, interact with anything.
tim pool
Have you guys seen 1883?
Negative.
I haven't seen Yellowstone, but we were having dinner and everyone's like,
you got to watch it.
It's three.
libby emmons
So I heard about that too.
tim pool
And, uh, there's, there's a really great scene where the, uh, there's like a,
it's a bunch of German people and they're trying to get to Oregon because it's
paradise.
They hear and they, they got to cross a river.
And so the, you know, the Marshall guy or whatever his name is, he's like, you
guys, uh, swim in Germany.
I was like, no, it's illegal.
And he's like, it's illegal to swim in Germany?
And then he gets angry and he's like, everything, I don't think he says Germany, he says it's illegal to swim where I'm from.
He's like, everything is illegal where I'm from.
He's like, that's why we're leaving.
And it's crazy to think about, that's, for a lot of people that were leaving Europe and coming to emptiness, conflict, and death, it was because it was better than having the government live, to live with the government's boot on your neck.
libby emmons
I actually just showed my son the other night the movie Brazil.
You remember that movie?
What's that one?
I think it's Terry Gilliam.
That's a person, right?
I'm pretty sure it's his movie.
But it's basically about this guy who works for the government and it's just all red tape and bureaucracy.
And all he does, he has his He has his dreams, you know, and he like lives in a fantasy kind of.
But at the end, at a certain point, I won't give it away, but he ends up sort of outside of the city.
He gets up away from the paperwork and you just see these mountains and you're just, it's like you can finally breathe watching the movie.
We're doing a whole dystopia thing, right?
Like he's reading 1984.
We're going to do all of it.
Fahrenheit 451.
But the other thing that you were talking about in terms of the COVID restrictions and how that was used, and these restaurateurs are going to have the government breathing down their necks the rest of their lives.
There's a lot of officials around the world, not necessarily in the US, although I think probably in the Biden administration there are, who see a lot of this COVID lockdowns and restrictions almost as a blueprint of how they can coerce the population into submitting to climate change mitigation measures.
The German health minister was talking about this a year ago, and I think, you know, Jack Posobiec was fact-checked for saying that this was happening, but it actually was happening.
And they say things like, you know, the kind of restrictions that we used for COVID, we can ask people to do that to mitigate climate change.
We can ask corporations to tell their workers to work from home.
We can ask them not to take business trips, not to travel as much as they would like to curb this climate thing.
So yeah, I mean, they're going to use these same methods over again, you know, they're going to use it for whatever new crisis they come up with.
And what we see from the left, what we see from Democrats is a willingness and insistence to rule us based on crises.
I don't even know if it's... It's always a crisis.
ian crossland
I wouldn't even start at the left.
It's just people that are with their head down.
libby emmons
Like you're saying, half the governments of the Republican state... That makes sense too, but I mean, that's the methodology.
Call it a crisis and then use it to control and manipulate people.
ian crossland
I think a power outage maybe would be one.
tim pool
Let's pull up this story from Daily Mail.
Biden will finally lift COVID emergencies on May 11th after more than three years.
White House urges 14-week drawdown to deal with Title 42 at the border, student loans, and hospitals.
So that's it.
He's finally putting an end to the COVID-19 national emergency.
I mean, we've been, I guess we've been out of the pandemic for a while.
Restrictions have been lifted.
libby emmons
Biden said the pandemic was over when he toured the Detroit auto show in September.
tim pool
Right.
libby emmons
And then the White House was like, no, it's not.
unidentified
It's not over.
tim pool
It's over now.
He's ending it.
It's it.
There it is.
ian crossland
He says the emergency is over in four months.
How can you be sure?
I thought it were an emergency.
No, no, the emergency is over.
Okay.
tim pool
Oh, it's a 14 week drawdown.
ian crossland
Okay, good.
tim pool
That's what it is.
libby emmons
It's totally stupid.
ian crossland
According to Biden, the pandemic is over.
It ended last year.
tim pool
Well, there we go, everybody.
Congratulations.
We did it.
We can go back to doing everything.
But you know what I noticed?
You know, I love the casino out here.
It's the Hollywood Casino.
When we first moved out here, craziest thing, every table game had plexiglass, like you were talking about, Matt.
Gotta put the plexiglass.
And you weren't allowed to touch any cards.
This is a gambler's dream.
Because that means when you're playing a table game, maybe you're playing, I'll tell you, Mississippi.
You guys ever play Mississippi Stud?
Here's how the game works.
Dealer gives you two cards, there are three cards on the board that everybody shares, and you gotta pay every time you wanna see the next card, hoping that you get a good enough hand to win your bet.
It's like, if you get a pair of jacks or better, you win money.
If you know what your cards, the cards the other players have, your odds increase.
So you go to the casino and then everybody's forced to show their cards.
It's funny to me, I don't understand.
libby emmons
It's like you're teaching a kid how to play.
That's how you teach a kid to play, is everyone shows their cards.
tim pool
I'm like all the gamblers, right, but you're walking and you're looking down and you're like, okay, this guy's got an ace, I got an ace, there's no ace on the board I fold.
And so these businesses were complying with policies that made no sense Stopped nothing, hurt them substantially, but everybody was just for it.
But here's the point I wanted to bring up, aside from that insanity.
They shut down large portions of the casino, and they've never reopened them.
libby emmons
Really?
tim pool
Never.
libby emmons
Why not?
tim pool
And I think, for whatever reason, nobody wants to work.
So there's a horse track there, and we went out, not this weekend, but the previous weekend, and we went to the horse races.
It's so much fun.
You guys ever go to the horse races?
matt strickland
Yeah, they're a blast.
tim pool
Yeah, they have a horse race every 15 minutes, and it's a minute-long thing, but you get some food, you get a beer or whatever, you bet a dollar on the horse with the silliest name, and then you hope it wins, and then you win like $1.50 or something.
matt strickland
Oh, it's a good time.
tim pool
It's a good time.
It's fun.
It's silly.
It's outdoor.
But it's outdoor.
And so we went there.
And it was funny because we were there with Shane Cashman and Nancy, his wife.
And he bet on this one horse called like, what was it called?
Like American, American Pride or something or American Patriot.
And when we were looking at the horses going around, like they're doing the walk-up, I mean the warm-up, his is going sideways and like fighting.
He's like, oh no, it came in last.
We were laughing.
My horse came in first, I ended up winning like 50 bucks.
But anyway, there's no restaurant.
Normally you'd sit and eat food and watch the races outside, and it's so fun.
Because every 15 minutes the horses are running, and they said they really want to reopen it, but they can't find anybody.
Nobody wants to work.
matt strickland
It's the weirdest thing, man.
People ask me that all the time, too.
libby emmons
Do you have that issue at your restaurant?
matt strickland
They ask me, hey man, is it difficult finding people to work now?
And I'm like, yeah.
They're like, why is that?
I'm like, I have no idea.
It's so weird.
libby emmons
I wonder that, too.
Like, how is everybody feeding their families?
How are people paying their bills?
tim pool
Certainly not with eggs.
libby emmons
Where's this, right?
Where's this money coming from that everybody has?
matt strickland
Well, first of all, it was ridiculous in the beginning of the pandemic to pay people double what they were making to work to sit at home.
How in the world is an employer going to get somebody back to work?
Come back to work for less than you're making to sit at home.
Who in their right mind is going to agree to that?
But the reason why people can't find workers is is a question that nobody is able to answer.
I have no idea what's going on.
libby emmons
What are all these people doing?
tim pool
I've been asking this for what, a year now?
Brought it up on the show?
And the joke is, I mean, I was saying this when Seamus was here, they got raptured.
Where is everybody?
libby emmons
Where is everybody?
tim pool
How is it that we still have a shortage of workers, nobody wants to work, but there's, I mean, well, hold on, Ian, you pointed this out, a lot of homeless people.
ian crossland
Yeah, a lot of them are on the street.
I don't have proof that those that got fired from their jobs are the ones on the street.
tim pool
It makes sense, though.
ian crossland
Yeah, they're collecting unemployment and sitting in their one-bedroom apartment.
libby emmons
Unemployment gives out.
You get 18 months of unemployment.
I've always been sort of terrified to not have a job.
I've been working full-time basically since I was 19 years old.
I don't know how else you're supposed to exist.
What are you supposed to do?
ian crossland
I got unemployment for about two years.
tim pool
A lot of people seem to be doing that.
ian crossland
That's a problem too.
They said like, in 1984, they're like, football, alcohol, and gambling are the three signs
of the end of the civilization, especially gambling.
libby emmons
Football, alcohol, and gambling?
ian crossland
I think those are the three that George Orwell talks about.
tim pool
You and Taylor were with us, right, at MGM?
libby emmons
Yeah, Taylor won a bunch of money and I lost $300.
tim pool
We went to MGM National Harbor, and Libby just lost every hand.
And Taylor Silverman was with us, and her first hand, she gets trips on three-card poker and won like $1,000.
libby emmons
Yes, she was like, Libby, I made your money back.
ian crossland
I'm pretty, I have like a real aversion to gambling.
It makes me really nervous because it's so easy and fun, but that's the problem with it.
tim pool
This is the thing.
I think it's an indicator of the end of a society or civilization, the rapid expanse of gambling.
You know, look, I love the casino.
It's fun.
It's like an adult arcade.
You never go there thinking you're gonna win money.
I'm not talking about going and being like, oh boy, I'm gonna take my rent money and bet it, and then... No, no, no, you don't do that.
You get a hundred bucks or whatever, and you say, we're gonna just play some fun games, minimum bets, just for the fun and excitement, then have some food and go home, and it's like going to the arcade.
You're spending a hundred bucks on games, no different than if you went to an arcade and put a hundred bucks in your chip machine so you could play tokens with your kids or something.
ian crossland
But there are people like Mr. Beast who cured a thousand people's blindness.
tim pool
I go to the casino and what do I see?
It's people milking themselves dry.
I walk up to the ATM and I see a receipt.
True story.
I saw the receipt and I pulled it out because I'm curious.
Who are these people betting all this money?
It's crazy to me.
When I sit down, I go to the craps table, dice game, for people who don't know.
And I see a dude standing there and he's got $10,000.
And I'm like, who the is this guy to be gambling $10,000 like that?
So crazy.
There's a, they, this, I don't know if this casino is still, they have a credit window but it's closed, but like National Harbor's got a credit room.
You go in there, people are gambling away things they don't have.
I pulled, I went to the ATM and there was a receipt hanging, I picked, I pulled it out and it said withdraw $100 of total available balance, negative $300.
Meaning, yikes, they likely had just gotten paid withdrew from their paycheck, but their account was
previously negative, so it didn't roll over.
ian crossland
Trying to win back the fee that it's going to charge them for taking out overdraft.
tim pool
It's like $6 for the... yep, yep.
libby emmons
That sucks.
matt strickland
I don't know, but I mean, I'm not a conspiracy theorist.
I don't buy into these conspiracy theories, but I do truly believe that the government at large, they do not want a prosperous middle class.
And that's evident.
And I do believe that one of, I'm not saying the reason for COVID was to kill small businesses, but I do believe that it's one thing that did happen.
And at the very least, the government saw it happening and accelerated that process.
Because small businesses were absolutely just ravaged during the pandemic.
libby emmons
Well, there was a thing early on in, I think it was Lansing, Michigan.
It was like, I think it was April of 2020.
Was it April?
Anyway, it was like right early on and a whole bunch of small business owners went to the Capitol in Lansing to protest Gretchen Whitmer and be like, hey, you need to let us open up our nail shops and our hair salons and all of our little businesses.
You need to let us open back up.
And Whitmer had allowed casinos to stay open, liquor shops to stay open.
She allowed big box stores to stay open, and all the little shops had closed.
So all these people showed up, and they did like a car protest, essentially.
And some people went into the Capitol, you know, and they were armed.
They weren't like brandishing their weapons around or anything like that, but they were armed.
And everybody freaked out that these people were there, and they were like, you're racist
because you're protesting these lockdown measures.
And I remember distinctly there was one woman who ran a nail shop, and she was like,
I have employees, I have a family.
I have a nail shop, and you took it from me.
Why did you do this?
There was a hair shop in Texas, and she refused to close, and she kept getting shut down.
tim pool
There was a woman in Minnesota, I think it was.
Southern Minnesota.
She had a coffee shop, and she refused to close.
libby emmons
That's right.
tim pool
So they went after her and she fled to Iowa, I guess, and then the sheriffs came and arrested her for illegally running a coffee shop.
unidentified
Yeah, it was ridiculous.
matt strickland
Well, the thing is, as a restaurateur, obviously I have a lot of kids working for me, you know, minimum wage kids.
And the minimum wage is going up to $15 in Virginia, and you just cannot afford that as a small business.
So, I mean, you're more than doubling what the minimum wage used to be.
As a business owner, I have to, I've got to increase my prices.
But as a restaurateur, I can only sell a burger for so much before you say, I'm not paying 20 bucks for a burger.
I can only increase it so much.
And so that what that does is it eventually it destroys small businesses because restaurants, that's the biggest industry as far as small businesses go in America.
tim pool
There was a little barbecue stand not too far from where we are.
It's where West Virginia meets Virginia.
It's gone now.
I don't know.
I think someone stole it.
Crazy.
Someone stole their their cooker and drove off with it or something like that.
And now there's and there wasn't a waffle stand.
It's gone.
I don't know why it's gone.
It's sad.
But we used to go there and you'd go to the barbecue.
I remember one day we went there.
I took a picture.
I posted on Instagram.
They said they had no brisket.
The cost of beef was too much.
matt strickland
Yeah.
tim pool
And I said, well, I mean, can you get it?
And they're like, we can, but who's going to want to buy a $20 brisket sandwich?
And I was like, I'll take the $5 chicken sandwich.
matt strickland
And the thing is, what people don't realize, and I mean, it's the most obvious thing to me, is that minimum wage more than doubles, right?
But did that person who's making $60,000 a year, Did his salary double?
No it didn't.
So now when businesses have to double their prices to keep up with the people that they have to pay to work, now you as the middle wage earner, the $60,000, the $150,000, now you're poor.
So we lifted the minimum wage and now the teenagers are getting paid a lot more money.
But now you, the person that needs to take care of a family, now you are doing nothing but getting poorer and it's killing the middle class.
And it's so obvious.
libby emmons
And the thing is, why should you be paying $15 an hour to some kid who doesn't know how to do their job either?
Why is that the thing?
tim pool
This happens with minimum wage increases as well as what happened with UBI.
You're a business and you have to pay, whether it's because by government mandate or by environmental pressures, 15 bucks an hour, you're raising your prices, end of story.
So for like UBI, you tell everybody you get 500 bucks per week guaranteed.
Then one day, all of your employees quit.
All of your stockers and cashiers quit.
And you're like, well, why are you quitting?
And they're like, I get 500 bucks a week for free.
Why should I work?
Well, how much do you want to work?
Man.
In order to compete with a free $500, you gotta understand this.
We're not just talking about the amount of money I got at the end of the week.
We're talking about the equation of how much work do I have to do for how much reward.
If the amount of work I have to do for UBI is fill out a form one time and then I'm done, we're talking about $500 per week for the rest of my life, add that up for one minute of work.
Do you think your 40 hours of work for even $600 comes close?
Sorry.
People are gonna say, I would rather eat out less, but not have to work at all.
If you're doing UBI or free 500 bucks, or let's say it's even 100 bucks, $100 to a young person, they're gonna say, $400 a month, I'll split that money with my buddy, we'll get a studio apartment and live for free, and then I'll figure out the rest, but now I don't have to have a job at all.
And if you then say, we'll give you $100 a week if you do this job, that way you're getting twice as much, they're gonna be like, yeah, but I have the minimum I need, and I don't have to work, so I'm not going to.
You say, okay, how about $200 a week?
And they're gonna say even that.
You want me to work 40 hours a week, or 30 hours a week or whatever, okay.
600 bucks a week, and they'll say, I mean, I guess.
libby emmons
But it's still a maybe.
tim pool
It's an exponential increase in the amount of money you have to offer, because you're not actually offering them money, you're offering them 40 hours more work they don't have to do if their needs are met.
libby emmons
And that's going to bankrupt not only the economy, but it'll bankrupt society, because there won't be any innovation.
matt strickland
Well, who's all for these minimum wage increases?
These big corporations, the ones that fund these politicians' campaigns.
libby emmons
Well, and then they can put the small businesses out of business.
matt strickland
Exactly.
libby emmons
Starbucks can afford the 15.
matt strickland
How can I compete with Walmart, who a teenager can just go there And stock shelves and by the way, put their AirPods in and not have to deal with any customers and listen to music while they're stocking shelves and make 18 bucks an hour.
And Walmart can afford that because now they have like a 50% reduction in workforce because they don't even need cashiers anymore.
Now you're the cashier.
libby emmons
I hate that so much.
I hate that.
So I cannot even tell you how much I hate self checkout.
Like I have a job and now I'm doing this and I was at the thing the other day with my kid and we like bought some stupid crap shelf that then I had to build myself, you know,
because I can't even buy anything that's put together.
And we put it on the, I'm like, okay, we have to try and get it on the scanner.
You know, it's this whole undertaking of engineering project, and we don't even realize
that there's like a glass sitting there that I had already paid for, a little toothpaste cup.
And the whole thing, the shelf smashes into the glass.
The glass goes flying.
Now everything is smashed.
And now I have to clean up the smashed glass that I already paid for that I can't even take home with the stupid shelf.
Oh, I'm so mad.
I'm so mad.
I'm still mad, obviously.
tim pool
I got a solution for you.
libby emmons
I ate it so much.
tim pool
I got a solution for you.
Check out this tweet from Wall Street Silver on Twitter.
Coming to a town near you, face scanning for access to food and public transportation.
It works great as long as your social credit score is high enough because you obey.
Fire.
And then there's another video, I don't know if you saw it, TikTok, where a woman says she's paying her bills at Whole Foods, her checkout, with her palm.
libby emmons
What, because she has like a RFID chip for her bank account?
tim pool
No, you go up to a machine and you put your credit card in it, you then hold your hand over it, and it scans your hand, and then you take your card out, and now your handprint is connected to your card.
unidentified
No!
tim pool
So when you're buying your groceries, this is at Whole Foods I think it was, you walk up and you just hold your hand over the thing, it goes bong, and then you walk right out.
libby emmons
No, I want this not at all.
I don't want any piece of this.
Recently I moved out of New York, and part of it was like, I don't want this encroaching You know, overtaking of my body and soul and mind and identity to, like, go to all of this stuff.
We're very close in New York to having the thing where you put your hand scanner on just to ride the subway.
tim pool
That's what this is.
libby emmons
No!
unidentified
No!
tim pool
Have you seen Minority Report?
libby emmons
No.
tim pool
When, uh, you've never seen Minority Report?
Come on.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Tom Cruise, he walks into a mall.
libby emmons
I literally watch space movies and stoner comedies and, like, Woody Allen and that's it.
tim pool
It's the future.
He gets an eye, he gets eye implants.
I guess your eyes, all the cameras everywhere scan your eyes.
So he gets them removed and gets other eyes put in.
And then he walks into a mall and it's like, hello Mr. Wong.
And the ads, because it's like Mr. Wong's eyes or whatever, are all tailored to him.
So you're walking around seeing things.
They'll be like, hi Libby, did you pick up that new lipstick yet?
It's right over here around the corner.
That's what it's gonna be like.
They're doing this facial recognition stuff.
I went to, a few years ago, it was the Amazon store, I think it was, in Seattle.
libby emmons
They have a store?
tim pool
Yeah, you walk in, grab whatever you want, and walk right out, and the cameras track everything you do.
They bought Whole Foods!
libby emmons
Oh, that's right.
tim pool
The plan is to implement this at Whole Foods.
That's what they're doing, the palm scanner thing.
libby emmons
Whole Foods, during the pandemic, I went in and I tried to get them to make me a sandwich, and they said, no, they can't make me a sandwich because of the stupid, arbitrary garbage rules.
And, uh, they were like, no, but we have sandwiches made here.
And I was like, didn't you make those?
And they're like, yeah.
I'm like, okay, so you can make a sandwich with your COVID germs, wrap it up in plastic and put it here.
But, and I could buy that, but you can't make a sandwich now and wrap it up in plastic and hand it to me so that I have the sandwich I want.
matt strickland
And the thing is that no matter how much... Gore melts cans.
libby emmons
Gore melts cans.
Come check it out.
matt strickland
And we won't stop.
Can't stop, won't stop.
But the thing is that no matter how bad you don't want it, it's gonna happen.
And the reason is people are lazy.
unidentified
It's so awful.
matt strickland
And the problem with society is this.
It's very simple.
The problem with society is we're too comfortable.
And people are willing to blindly comply because they have A.C., they have heat, they're able to pay their bills, they can go grab a coffee from Starbucks when they want, and as long as they can do those things, they will gladly hand their rights over to the government.
tim pool
Well, I gotta tell you, man, look, look, look, I know I'm not a big fan of Starbucks, but let's be honest, that pistachio cold brew cream thing, that's so good.
matt strickland
I haven't tried it, man.
ian crossland
I was thinking the other night that you've got to do uncomfortable things to succeed, and I thought, no, it's backwards.
It's that the things that you need to do to succeed are uncomfortable.
So you've got to be willing.
Not everything that's uncomfortable is going to make you succeed.
Don't break your legs.
tim pool
I disagree.
I disagree with someone with that.
You are right.
But let me rephrase it.
I think what happens to our society is that what used to be a rewarding experience people don't have to do and now hate doing.
So for example, exercise, right?
I like skating. It feels good.
Exercise is ancillary.
It's like, it just so happens that if you're skating, you're staying in shape, but skating is fun.
matt strickland
Yeah.
tim pool
There are a lot of people who like working out because they're pushing their limits
and they're trying to get more, lift more weights.
But for a lot of people, most people, working out sucks.
And they're like, I have to do something that's uncomfortable if I want to succeed.
It shouldn't be that way.
It should be from when you're a kid, your parents take you out to go exercise, and it becomes a routine that you enjoy doing, that you push yourself and you succeed at it, and it feels good to do those things.
You know what I mean?
libby emmons
Like biking is great.
ian crossland
Acquiring food used to be like that.
It used to be a big deal when someone would come back to the tribe with food.
That was not expected.
Now it's like people loathe going to the grocery store.
Oh, I don't want to do it.
I have to go all the way there to get the thing.
Like, dude, you are lucky.
tim pool
I'm watching 1883.
And there's the scene where the dad is hunting with the kid.
And then he points the scope at the deer and then he tells the kid to look.
And then the kid's five and he says, you know, pull the trigger.
And then then he's like, he brings the kid down and he's like, you did it.
You got your first kill.
It's a deer.
It's going to feed us for weeks.
He's all excited.
And then he's got to, like, gut it and pull out the garbage and then throw it on the horse and bring it back.
Or he carries it, I think.
matt strickland
Well, you know what?
We don't even have to go back to the 1800s.
I was actually, ironically, just thinking about this yesterday.
And in the 90s, you know, in the early 90s when I was growing up as a kid, I ate like shit.
But when I joined the military at 17 years old, I was 130 pounds.
Why?
Because it wasn't as comfortable as it is today to be in the house.
TV sucked.
You had to get up and change the TV.
And everything that you wanted to do, if you wanted to interact with your friend, you had to go outside.
So I truly believe that, of course, food is an issue.
I mean, there's no doubt about that.
But I believe the bigger issue is the inactivity.
And I think it proves it because, you know, in the 90s, we had a We had the same foods that we had today and it was just as shitty but the obesity wasn't as rampant because we were doing things.
We weren't sitting in a dark room playing video games or sitting at our phone and just our friends are just at our disposal right here on our phones.
We had to actually Go outside and interact with them.
ian crossland
I used to have to go to the store to shop and go to the bank to get money.
Now, I bought like 20 things on Amazon in the last four or five days from my room.
I didn't even leave the room.
libby emmons
I remember when I was a kid, I'd have to go run errands with my stepmom like before the weekend.
And one of the errands was always to go get cash because you couldn't get any cash at the weekend.
Or you'd have to like go to the grocery store and cash a check.
You have to stand in line with everybody else who forgot to go to the bank on Friday.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
ian crossland
Before the debit card.
I got my first debit card in, like, 92.
libby emmons
And there was no ATM.
We had to, like, do a drive-thru with, like, a little hydraulic thing and you'd—whatever.
ian crossland
You had to interact with somebody to cash a check to get your money.
I mean, I think you're completely right that the lack of socialization is driving this.
Also, I think that the opiates are heavily involved with the lack of socialization, but— Oh, no doubt about that.
matt strickland
I mean, but the bottom line is, it goes back to we're just way too comfortable in today's society.
And the video that I filmed live when those police officers came into my restaurant and stripped my livelihood from me, that's the message I was trying to get across to them.
I was not ragging on police.
I've always supported police officers.
What I was telling them is what they specifically were doing was wrong.
And I don't give a damn what your profession is.
If you're a police officer, if you're a teacher, if you're in the military, if you're a small business owner, if you're complicit in stripping a citizen of their constitutional rights, you are wrong.
But they were willing to do it.
And I know for a fact, That at least one of those officers that day felt bad about what he did because he had a friend come into my restaurant afterwards and tell me such.
And, uh, but the reason he did it is because what?
Because he didn't want to lose his job because he, he wanted to maintain his benefits and he wanted to have a paycheck coming in so he can provide for his family.
And on one hand you ask yourself, well, what can you blame him?
But then on the other hand, the answer is, well, the only reason this is going on is because Of people like him that are willing to be complicit in things that are illegal and unconstitutional to be comfortable.
Now, if every police officer involved in that situation would have stood up and said, this is unconstitutional, I'm not doing it, then it wouldn't have happened.
And it was the same for me.
It would have been way easier for me to comply and just go along with what they were telling me to do.
And I wouldn't have lost, you know, six figures.
I wouldn't have had the stress put on me and my family that was put on me.
But there's things that are bigger than you and there's things that are more important than you and your business and your money.
And my mindset was always, if I lose everything, if everybody in this entire country stands against me for what I'm about to do and I lose it all, Well, I'm a hard worker.
I'll bust my ass, and one way or another, I'll provide for my family, and I'll be okay.
But, if I give up my freedoms, I'll never get that back.
And that's what I want people to understand and remember next time, is that if you refuse to stand up and fight for what's right, just so you can keep the comfortability of your daily life, then you're gonna lose something much greater.
And those are your constitutional rights, and those are your freedoms.
And I just don't know how to get that across to people, but I hope that my story and my situation, I hope that if nothing else, what it proves is that if you do stand up and you do fight, the people will rally behind you and you can beat the government and you will beat the government.
And we are bigger than the government.
We are stronger than the government because we are the government.
libby emmons
Well, and once you give away your rights, that's your kids' rights, too.
That's your grandchildren's rights.
matt strickland
And that's the most important thing.
libby emmons
Then you have to fight a war to get them back.
matt strickland
That's right.
And I did this.
I took on this fight.
Mainly for my kids, and for the next generation, because if we don't, you and me, if all of us here in this room, if our generation doesn't step up and take this fight on right now, and not only take it on, but win, and we just hand this fight over to the next generation, by the time they're old enough to fight this, it'll be too far gone.
libby emmons
Well then they'll be squashed already.
ian crossland
I've got a feeling the next round of shutdown government stuff is going to be for power outages.
I could be wrong about that.
libby emmons
What do you mean, for power outages?
ian crossland
If the grid goes down for two weeks, then our phones are off, people are trying to figure it out, the government starts coming around saying, we're going to take control, don't leave the house, don't leave the house, don't leave the house.
libby emmons
They're not going to do that until they make us all have electric cars.
They're going to wait till we all have electric cars, then we can't go anywhere either.
ian crossland
I don't know if they're going to cause it or if it's just going to happen.
But if that's a situation where it's like, don't leave the house, don't leave the house, what do we do?
Do we resist against it?
tim pool
That's literally how every city was during COVID lockdown.
ian crossland
It's going to be asymmetrical.
So next time, it probably won't be a virus next time.
It'll probably be something a little... They're calling it a cyber 9-11.
libby emmons
Yeah, they're working on that too.
Like the FAA, the flights that all got grounded.
They could pull something like that.
tim pool
At the World Economic Forum, they're referring to it as a cyber pandemic or some kind of cyber 9-11 incident.
that will destroy a global economy.
ian crossland
What do you think?
libby emmons
I mean, you're pretty realistic.
It would wipe out everybody's money, right?
What are those things that would like wipe out all of the information?
ian crossland
Temporarily, and then all of your money is...
libby emmons
And all of your money is...
ian crossland
Do you think that people should prepare realistically?
Like I've got like a ham radio, solar panels.
Chickens.
tim pool
Hey, hey, hey.
Everybody who listens to this show and can or figure out how to get chickens
is laughing right now listening to this show Because they got eggs.
And their neighbors are probably like, please, sir, might I borrow some eggs for my pancakes?
And you're like, no, they're mine.
Actually, you can have some.
matt strickland
No, you're not wrong.
You're absolutely right.
I mean, being self-sustainable is the most important thing, but I'm telling you guys right now, and I hope this doesn't come across as too politician-y, but I am running for office right now, but I am the furthest thing, even in this room, from a politician, man.
But I'm telling you guys, you need to start paying attention to state politics.
These federal elections are not where you make your money.
It's at the state level.
In Virginia, in 2035, Electric cars are gonna be the law.
unidentified
So you are no longer- California too, and New York.
tim pool
And Oregon and Washington.
matt strickland
I hate that so much.
unidentified
And I think it's Wyoming that said- Wyoming said that they're banning electric cars.
tim pool
Electric cars are banned.
matt strickland
And so let me tell you guys something- That's where you're gonna move next.
A lot of people don't know.
tim pool
Oh yeah, absolutely.
matt strickland
It's awesome.
tim pool
It's expensive though.
libby emmons
Yeah, it is.
matt strickland
The most important thing, guys, the most important thing by far, and even if you don't believe that, and we were talking about this before the show, Even if you don't believe that any election was stolen or any of that, elections are not secure.
In the state of Virginia, you can go vote without showing an ID.
You tell me how elections are secure when you can do that.
libby emmons
That's true in New York, too.
You just sign for it.
tim pool
Well, hold on.
In what was the story?
I think we talked about it.
Did we talk about it?
Non-citizens can vote?
libby emmons
Oh yeah, well in New York they put up a proposal where non-citizens could vote in local elections and it was overturned.
matt strickland
They can vote right now.
I'm going to tell you how, and not a lot of people know this, so check this out.
In the state of Virginia, and in many other states as well, as an illegal alien, As an illegal immigrant, you can get a driver's license at the DMV, a valid driver's license, right?
So, our voter rolls, they come from the DMV.
And they go, so how our voter rolls get handed down to the Office of Elections.
libby emmons
Wait, it's like an auto register, right?
tim pool
That's what happened in California.
matt strickland
So check this out.
tim pool
Big story a few years ago.
matt strickland
The people that run our voter rolls, is an organization called Eric.
E-R-I-C.
And everybody look this up if you think I'm BSing.
E-R-I-C.
The Electronic Registration Information Center.
Eric.
So what Eric does is it reaches down to the DMVs and it says, hey DMV, We want all of your information from all of the people in your state that are of legal age to vote.
So the DMV sends them all that information.
Now, illegal immigrants are in that batch because if you look in the bylaws of Eric, it doesn't hide it from you.
It says in the bylaws of Eric, it says, hey DMV, you are not allowed to tell us who is a citizen and who's not.
libby emmons
Why?
matt strickland
I'll tell you why.
libby emmons
Okay.
matt strickland
And so what happens is Eric sifts through that information and sends the voter rolls down to the state level and it says, this is everybody in your state that's allowed to vote.
And illegal immigrants are included in that.
And the answer to you as to why, you know who funded Eric?
libby emmons
Who helped create Eric?
matt strickland
Take a wild guess.
George Soros.
George Soros.
So George Soros is running your elections.
And if you think any of that is a lie, Please do the research.
tim pool
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Alright.
MoralObjection says, been really quiet on TimCast about the whole Eliza Blue situation.
You'd think real journalists would want to know why Twitter is censoring prominent content creators on her behalf.
Not only do we have a journalist currently being funded to go out and cover the story, but um...
Well, I mean, I guess I should say that.
We quite literally have a guy flying on a plane, going to meet all the people involved, and interview to figure out what's going on and do an investigation of it.
And I gotta be honest, like, everybody's, like, spamming the chat and spamming the super chat, demanding that we talk about this one issue, and it's just like, I don't know if you guys follow the show, but we never cave.
Like, the pre-production isn't dictated by what the things in the chat are, like, The hour before the show, we pull up all the stories.
We don't then have a whole bunch of people start chatting to us, and then we say, oh, hey, let's throw out all the stories we already planned for, and then not have anything pulled to talk about whatever.
We don't do that.
So I'll tell you this.
Know all about it.
Jeremy sent me some information on it.
Jeremy was supposed to be on the show.
We were going to have Jeremy Hambly on the show today, actually.
Today.
True.
And he just, I guess, I don't know exactly what happened.
He didn't get back to Cassandra, who handles all the bookings for us.
And then he didn't come.
I told him to come on.
I was like, I want to have you on.
Like, this would be the perfect time.
Especially, he was just reinstated.
He has a big threat about what happened.
And I'm like, dude, I'm not the person to, like, Jeremy, come on the show.
Like, would love to.
I'm a fan.
I'm a friend.
Want to talk about coffee, too?
But Jeremy didn't make it out, so I told him, you just gotta come on when you can.
So if everybody wants to talk about it, it's like, my guys, let's get Jeremy to come on the show, man.
We want the quartering on the show.
So we sent Shane Cashman.
So we're hoping to get a sit down with anybody we can on whatever the story is.
It is really interesting.
It is really interesting to see all the details.
I don't know enough about it.
I just know that there's something going on here and that the quartering, a very prominent personality talking about culture and news, was suspended.
Talking about this video, so I'm curious to see how it turns out.
Simply put, when I saw that everybody wanted something done about it, I went and talked with Shane Cashman.
He wants to do a full profile on this whole thing, and I was like, it's probably the best and most effective thing we can do.
Other than having Jeremy come on the show, so it's like, I don't know what else y'all want from me, my friends.
libby emmons
Yeah, just go dig into it.
tim pool
Yeah, like Jeremy.
Jeremy can come on the show and he can literally say all of this.
We had Eliza on the show before.
All I know is she's on Twitter.
She's a prominent activist talking about this stuff.
Many people are saying that her past is shady and stuff like that.
It's not true.
She's lying.
And I was like, oh, this is perfect.
We're having Jeremy on the show.
And then Jeremy didn't make it out, and I hit him up.
I was like, bro, you're not coming?
Come on the show.
So that's the best thing I can do.
If you want to see it talked about, We gotta fly Jeremy out.
What's figured out, and the challenge was, this was the day we had booked a month in advance, and we're booked up, but I would happily make room for Jeremy.
I mean, you know, absolutely.
ian crossland
Did Brittany Venti get unbanned on Twitter?
tim pool
Both of them did.
ian crossland
Oh, good.
tim pool
Yeah.
All right, let's read some more.
Russell Garcia says, I can't wait to vote for Matt in the election.
Sending love from Spotsy.
matt strickland
I appreciate that.
Thank you so much.
And if anybody hasn't so far you can you can you can follow this journey because I'm telling you right now I'm coming to crush the establishment and I will with the support of you and you can do so at Matt4VA on social media and the website is Matt4VA.com.
I'm fighting a war on two fronts, Democrats and these Republican establishments.
So if you can help the campaign out, please do so.
tim pool
Yeah, man.
Plus, if you're not too far away, go to Gore Melts, man.
That was some good food.
We gotta come back down.
ian crossland
Is that place lit up right now from all the publicity?
matt strickland
Oh, man.
I mean, we've got such an awesome customer base, man.
And, you know, now it's such a patriotic customer base.
And the environment is just... It's awesome, man.
There's never any issues in there.
And we do something every night.
So Wednesday nights, we do trivia.
Thursday, karaoke.
Friday and Saturday, we do live music.
And our live music... So the entire name of the restaurant is Gourmet, 90's music bar and draft house.
So we're all about 90's music.
And our live music on Friday and Saturdays is 80's and 90's cover bands.
So we blast out, man.
We have a good time.
ian crossland
Maybe we can play a show some night there.
matt strickland
Man, yes indeed.
Anytime.
ian crossland
What are your signature foods?
Your top three meals?
matt strickland
Oh man, so the top ones are, we have a melt called the Southern Cookout.
And melts are, you know, grilled sandwiches.
So what's in this one is sharp cheddar cheese, some really good sharp cheddar cheese, and sharp cheddar mac and cheese.
Barbecue pulled pork.
We do everything from scratch.
So we even do our barbecue from scratch.
And we don't sweeten our barbecue sauce with sugar.
tim pool
That's good.
matt strickland
We sweeten it with figs.
It's amazing.
It's amazing.
tim pool
Did Luke convince you to get off the seed oils?
matt strickland
He did, man.
I'm on board.
ian crossland
I'm on board, man.
Society's at a point where if you spend 30 to 40% more on the ingredients, you're going to get 70 to 80% more on the customer return.
tim pool
Luke actually just chatted, asked him about seed oils.
matt strickland
Tell him I'm all in, man.
tim pool
He's all in, he's all in.
Yeah, man, we went down there.
The food was amazing.
The pretzel, that was crazy.
I don't want to eat all these glutens, man.
I want this mac and cheese pork sandwich.
unidentified
Oh my God, it's good.
matt strickland
Definitely want that.
tim pool
My kid will love that.
We should come down.
Maybe not this weekend, but the next one we'll come down.
matt strickland
We've got something for everybody.
So everything on our menu, we can do gluten-free.
And our pretzels are handmade by a guy locally.
He's from Germany.
I mean, the pretzels are legit.
You tried it.
ian crossland
It was so good.
matt strickland
We've got grilled cheese tacos.
So what we do is we take a corn tortilla and we grill shredded mozzarella cheese to the outside.
Because when you eat a single tortilla taco, it falls apart, right?
ian crossland
Yeah.
matt strickland
All you got to do is lightly grill a little bit of mozzarella cheese to the outside of it.
And you're good to go.
So that's good.
unidentified
All right.
All right.
tim pool
Let's read some more.
Let's read some more.
All right.
What do we got?
Let's see.
Wade Macundas says MTG reminds me of a triple A gaming company nowadays.
unidentified
Oof.
tim pool
That's actually that is that is that is a dig for those that don't know.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
says Tim, the cult twists everything we say to fit their narrative.
Then if they can't argue against our claims, they go right to insults.
They're pathetic.
Yep.
That's right.
T-Rex Patchup says, Tim, I don't have the good stuff for Mr. Bocus, but I have UT supplements and treats that help with kidney health.
I can get the good stuff, however, on special order request.
What's the update on Mr. Bocus?
ian crossland
You know, you being here is the good stuff, man.
Bucko's doing fantastic.
He's sitting, I'm going to go see him in about 20 minutes, say, wizz-zap, and then I'm going to come back up for the after show.
He's probably laying on my bathroom floor right now.
I got him a nice big... Is he wearing his body suit?
No, I got him a new collar.
He didn't like the body suit and he could chew through it to get to the stitches, so I got him this Cosmos collar where it's like stars and stuff and it looks like a flower so he can't bite his own stitches.
unidentified
Eating a lot.
ian crossland
He gets inspired when I get inspired, so if I start working out, he gets inspired to start eating a bunch of meat.
He's probably put on a pound and a half in the last week or so.
tim pool
Has he?
ian crossland
Yeah.
He looks fantastic.
Filling out.
I'm going to take him to the vet tomorrow to get another diagnostic done before we give him the stem cell injection.
tim pool
But those are coming, and then what's the update?
ian crossland
The stem cells?
They are ready.
That stem is the company that does it.
It's headquartered in San Diego, California, I believe, and they will be sending it out overnight to the clinic, whatever clinic we choose to go to, and then they will give them.
It's a real simple thing.
They just give them the injections, and I think it's every three months he gets another injection after that.
tim pool
And they think it will help his kidney function?
ian crossland
That's the plan, yeah.
It'll help everything actually.
His heart.
I mean, I don't know exactly.
I don't know.
I think it might even heal up his stitches on his stomach.
I'm fascinated.
tim pool
I think it will.
You can buy stem cell therapy for humans, where they harvest it from umbilical cords or whatever,
or you can do a thing where they take it from you and then culture it or whatever.
But we watched a video about it, and damaged tissue releases some kind of chemical
or something, and then stem cells are attracted to it, attach, and then turn into the cells around it,
repairing the damage.
ian crossland
You can do it with teeth, too.
There's experiments that you can regrow.
libby emmons
Stem cells for teeth?
ian crossland
Yeah, not the enamel, but what's the stuff underneath the enamel?
libby emmons
Your tooth?
ian crossland
No, it's like the root, but it's what's that stuff called?
Not dentin.
unidentified
I'll pull it up.
libby emmons
I have no idea.
tim pool
All right.
matt strickland
You know what's crazy, though, is one day, like in 100 years from now, like after all the stem cell research and stuff, like being paralyzed is not even going to be a thing anymore.
They're going to look back at us and laugh at us like Can you believe they allowed people to stay paralyzed back then?
tim pool
They didn't know.
People used to drink mercury.
matt strickland
They didn't know.
ian crossland
James Tour just figured out how to... He injected graphene nano-ribbons into a spine of a mouse that had complete severance of the spine.
It was completely broken in half.
And it re-grew the spine.
Within two weeks, it was walking again.
Within three weeks, it was even better.
tim pool
All right, Christina H says, my chickens have finally started laying again.
It's been egg-cellent.
They never stopped laying for us.
You can do some tricks in the winter that you need a light.
Because if there's not enough light, the chickens stop laying.
But if you turn the light on, chickens are not very smart, which may be surprising to you.
And they think it's day, so they keep laying.
It's a good thing, I guess, for chickens.
But there's also some breeds that lay better all around.
And I think black stars are really good layers.
Yeah.
It's a Rhode Island Red Rooster and a Barred Plymouth Rock.
We have a whole bunch of them.
We have too many of these guys.
libby emmons
I like those little fluffy ones.
What are those called?
tim pool
Little fluffy ones?
ian crossland
Silkies.
tim pool
Oh, the silkies!
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
They're cute.
Their skin is blue and the chicken meat is black.
libby emmons
That sounds awful.
tim pool
I don't know, it's probably delicious.
ian crossland
I've served different kinds of chicken meat in the restaurant.
matt strickland
I want to now.
That sounds delicious, man.
ian crossland
That sounds awesome.
matt strickland
I mean, you guys, you can tell the difference between just a farm-fresh egg and one you get at the store.
unidentified
No joke.
matt strickland
I mean, it's so different, man.
tim pool
It's crazy.
Yeah, when I go out to eat and I order eggs, I'm like, these are conventional garbage eggs, because the eggs I get, they're fluffy.
I don't know, they're just better.
matt strickland
The yolk is a different color.
tim pool
Darker.
matt strickland
Yeah, it's got more of an orange tint to it.
Yeah.
I'm getting ready to get on the chicken train, man.
I'm getting some chickens.
ian crossland
Oh, that's cool.
matt strickland
Yeah.
ian crossland
I've seen restaurants that have chicken coops on the roof and stuff.
I've heard of stuff like that.
matt strickland
That'd be dope.
unidentified
They grow their own vegetables on the roof, maybe it was.
tim pool
All right, Mac N says, I was put on Stratera at the age of five for ADHD.
I was in foster care at the time.
Later, when I was 14, I was put on Adderall and Prozac.
I'm 23 now, and I've been off Prozac for almost a year, and I have never felt better.
ian crossland
Nice, dude.
unidentified
Oh, good.
tim pool
Glad to hear it, man.
ian crossland
How do you supplement?
I want to know.
Because for me, sometimes if I'm addicted to something, eating a healthy thing kind of like helps my body, not just waiting for the addiction to go away, but actually introducing new things kind of to take control of my own body.
But I'm interested to hear what you've done to kick all that stuff.
matt strickland
You know what I did, man?
So like during the pandemic, everybody was drinking more.
Everybody was like, you know, and I started noticing, man, because I used to, I would have maybe a couple of beers on the weekend or something, but you know, for whatever reason during the pandemic, man, I'd have a beer a day.
And I said, I got to cut back, man.
You know what I did?
I introduced soda water to get me away from, you know, just drinking beer and it worked.
unidentified
Yeah.
matt strickland
I just started drinking soda water instead of regular water.
And, uh, I didn't, I didn't want to be anymore.
ian crossland
To cut back on coffee.
Cause I'll do coffee with peanut butter powder and a little bit of coconut water.
I just started doing hot water with peanut butter powder and it's the peanut butter.
My body's totally into it.
tim pool
All right, we got Mickey Blackwell says, I like this guy.
Thanks for fighting for this country overseas and here.
We need to watch out for how the government controls our food.
matt strickland
Well, thanks, brother.
I appreciate that.
And you are absolutely correct about that.
And that really scares me because how do we really make sure the government doesn't get involved in our food?
That's the question.
libby emmons
Aren't they already involved in our food?
matt strickland
Yeah, but I mean, you hear, you know, a lot of, I don't know if they're rumors or not, but you hear a lot of stories about how they're going to come get these anti-vaxxers one way or another.
They're going to put the mRNA vaccine in your food now.
And, you know, it's just, and nothing today to me is a conspiracy theory.
Everything's on the table.
I mean, the government's even admitting the aliens are real now.
unidentified
Well, are they, though?
libby emmons
Well, they did release all those documents.
ian crossland
Somebody did.
tim pool
Yeah, they're saying UFOs.
If they came out actually and said, yeah, aliens are real, I'd... I suspect a false flag.
ian crossland
They're going to be like, aliens are attacking!
Everyone stay inside.
Do not get a gas car.
We need to only electric.
tim pool
I don't want to give up my gas car.
libby emmons
I just got a car maybe two years ago, my very first car ever in my life, and I will be damned if I'm giving that up.
tim pool
Your TV is going to get taken over and it's going to be an alien being like, humans, we have come to take over your planet.
Unless you get rid of your gas cars.
ian crossland
Tune to CNN.
We only have CNN.
matt strickland
Well, those ones are going to hang on to our gas cars and fight back by keeping our gas cars.
But then what happens when the gas stations go away?
libby emmons
I don't like that.
matt strickland
You don't have a choice.
We need to fight back by putting the right people in these political positions.
libby emmons
The issue, too, though, with the electric cars is that they're not actually sustainable or renewable or better because of the implications of the mining that goes into creating those batteries.
The waste from the batteries is worse than the waste from all those bills.
matt strickland
I think everybody knows that except people who are lying to themselves.
libby emmons
Well, I think they, yeah, I mean, you know, these people who are like, oh, I'm going to give up my gas stove to get an electric stove because it's better not realizing that they're just creating waste by getting rid of their existing stove.
tim pool
This is a good one from Jeff Phillips.
He says, my background is pharmacology and I've worked in and with the pharmaceutical industry for years.
I don't know one scientist at any pharmaceutical company that want anything except making medicines that help.
And I'll tell you exactly what happens.
The scientists are like, yo, we've discovered this medicine that seems to do this thing.
It's going to help a whole lot of people.
Let's put it into tests.
And then during those tests, they're like, we noticed that these pills you prescribed to save people from heart attacks is giving them boners.
And then a business guy goes, we are gonna make a fortune on boner pills.
And I think that's what it was, wasn't it?
Something like that?
libby emmons
That Viagra was not initially intended for that purpose.
tim pool
And Ozempic.
It was like a diabetes thing.
Now it's like a weight loss drug.
libby emmons
But also it will give you suicidal ideation.
tim pool
Ozempic will?
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
But they have that happy song, oh, oh, oh, it's a drug.
libby emmons
Yeah, but you have to like listen for the whole thing because it's actually pretty bad.
The side effects are, you know, death.
tim pool
I hate that commercial so much.
matt strickland
I'll buy into that.
I mean, I believe the scientists are really trying to do good.
I mean, the worker bees are trying to solve a problem.
It's the same as the military.
Like us soldiers that go to fight.
We think we're fighting for a righteous cause.
We're fighting for freedom in America.
In reality, we're fighting to the guy or the girl to our right and left.
But in reality, do we really know what's going on?
Do we really know what the puppets up at the Pentagon are really sending us out to fight for?
It's the same thing in the pharmaceutical company.
The scientists, the guys on the ground, they think they're doing what's right.
But in all actuality, somebody else is in control of that.
tim pool
All right, David Flores says, guys, I spent 14 years addicted to opiates.
Been clean for four years now.
I was a fireman at EMT.
No doctor told me it was heroin.
I lost everything.
Glad to hear you're clean now, my friend.
Sorry to hear you lost everything, man.
ian crossland
That's great, dude.
tim pool
All right, user 4179 says, here's a few bucks for all the 20s Ian's rolled tonight.
unidentified
Hell yeah.
tim pool
Ian's rolling 20s like crazy.
Kevin Corbett says, if you like horse racing, try your local dirt track.
Sprint cars and late models are beastly.
You know, I really want them to reopen the restaurant so you can sit up top with a seat, looking down.
That sounds fun.
And you're eating food and then every so often you see the horses and you're like, woo!
And you can make your bet and then go sit down and have your food and be like, who got it?
It was so much fun.
I bet on all the favorites.
Two weeks ago and all the favorites won.
So it's like you you bet ten bucks and you win like thirteen dollars or something So it's like okay And I guess it's because people will bet on the long shot horses and then that money covers so you don't you can't really You like if you really want to make money gambling you can go bet on roulette or something put on a red or black But the horse is fun.
It's like you pick the horse with the stupidest name, you know, like American Patriot or something and No offense, I mean, the horse is a nice horse, I'm sure.
But he just came in last place, so he didn't win any money or anything like that.
But it's fun!
matt strickland
Those jockeys got some balls, man.
libby emmons
Yeah.
matt strickland
Jumping up on those horses, man, and going around the track like they do, man.
That's the first thing I thought of when I was at a racetrack for the first time.
I said, good Lord, man, these dudes, they got some heart, man, because those horses, man, they got some power.
libby emmons
My favorite are always the mystery shows that take place at the horse races.
Like you'll get like an Agatha Christie show and it's all about there's murder at the horse track and someone was illegally doping the horse.
Those are always my favorite ones.
tim pool
Josh, Karen says the Baby Boomers retired during COVID.
That's another good point.
I've heard that a lot.
That's why it's hard to find workers because the Baby Boomers were working, you know, management jobs, they all retire.
Then the Millennials and Gen Xers start moving up.
Gen Xers take over these jobs.
Millennials, you know, move into higher positions.
And now there's no low skill worker base.
unidentified
I see.
libby emmons
What about all the Gen Z people?
Don't they?
Are they just too young still?
tim pool
They're posting TikToks too much.
I have no idea.
libby emmons
They don't know what's going on?
tim pool
They don't know what's going on.
They're living at home with their parents, probably.
libby emmons
I guess my kid is Gen Z, right?
Is that right?
Yeah.
tim pool
If he's 2010.
I don't know if that's Gen Z. That might be Gen Alpha.
libby emmons
It's like the next one.
It's like the unknown.
tim pool
No, Gen Alpha is the next one.
ian crossland
I'll call it Alpha Gen.
tim pool
Well, that's what some people call it.
ian crossland
You want to look it up.
Yeah, now that we've surpassed the Z, Gen Z, we're starting it over again.
Now it's going to be Z Gen, Alpha Gen, Beta Gen.
Because Gen Beta, Gen Alpha, you know, I don't want to confuse them.
tim pool
You don't want to trigger them.
ian crossland
You want to be nice to those guys.
tim pool
Yeah, you sit here with a piece of paper and they walk on it and then you place it.
That's what I do.
ian crossland
Alpha Generation, as if they're not going to be the most badass humans ever made.
tim pool
Yeah, I don't know about that, dude.
ian crossland
Gen Alpha.
Alpha Gen.
tim pool
Is that what it's called?
matt strickland
They got the word for it.
ian crossland
Yeah, they call it Generation Alpha because they have no creativity, but I call it Alpha Gen.
tim pool
Alpha Gen are gonna be the wall-e, hover chair, morbidly obese people.
ian crossland
If you say that, they'll believe you and then that's what they'll become, but we gotta inspire Alpha Gen.
tim pool
Yeah, we gotta change it, man.
ian crossland
They're like, what, 8, 9, 11?
What year is it?
tim pool
What's the Generation Alpha?
ian crossland
Early 2010s?
Yeah.
libby emmons
Yeah, so I guess that's my kid.
tim pool
Yep, that's right.
ian crossland
To the mid-2020s, yeah.
All the kids these days are Gen Alpha.
tim pool
Well, early 2010s, what is that?
Is that 2010 specifically, or because maybe he's at the cutoff?
ian crossland
I don't know why it doesn't say.
tim pool
He's a Gen Zelfa, like a Xeniel.
libby emmons
He's, like, right on the cusp.
tim pool
Yeah, well, Ian's a Xeniel, I think they call it.
ian crossland
Yeah, when you're the last year of X. Yeah, I'm 79, so right at the end of Gen X, they call them Xeniels.
matt strickland
When does Millennials start?
tim pool
Millennial?
1981.
ian crossland
Is it 81?
libby emmons
I think it would be millennial.
tim pool
No, it's not 81.
ian crossland
Wikipedia says 81 to 96 is millennial.
Wow.
And then 97 to 2012 is Z. So that'd be 2013.
Oh, okay.
tim pool
So he's Z. Yeah, your kid is Z.
2012.
ian crossland
He's a Zalpha.
libby emmons
Okay.
tim pool
He would be a Zalpha.
Yep.
All right.
What do we got here?
James Rice says a lot of people died from COVID and the homeless might be a reason not enough workers.
That is a good point.
You know?
ian crossland
What's your worker base been like the whole process?
Did you see more people leave or have you hired more?
matt strickland
It's tougher to get people.
I mean, my wife and I are at the restaurant all day every day because it's hard to get people in especially management positions.
It's easier to get the younger workers that are just coming into the workforce.
I mean, although I gotta, you know, I gotta overpay them to work.
It's easier to get those folks because they're just coming into the workforce.
But to get the 25-year-olds who can hold down the restaurant without me having to be there, you know, 24-7, those are the positions that are impossible to fill right now.
And it's just, I have no idea why.
I have no answer for it.
It's just weird.
But what I do see is, I do know a lot of people are on unemployment because I put those ads out and I'll get like 30 applications a week and I'll call all of them in for an interview and none of them will show up.
unidentified
Wow.
matt strickland
They're just checking the mark because they got to apply to a certain amount of jobs every week.
libby emmons
Oh my goodness, to fill out for unemployment, you have to say.
matt strickland
And I actually, I called the unemployment office in Virginia and I said, hey guys, this is going on.
Just wanted to, you know, alert you to it.
And they transferred me to like five different people because everybody said, oh, I don't know what to do with that information.
And I said, no, no, no.
I got this person's name right here.
I wanted to let you know if they're on unemployment, I called them in for an interview and I'll offer them a job.
So just so you know, if they're on unemployment, I will offer them a job.
And they transferred me to like five different people finally.
She was like, we don't have anybody that records that information.
tim pool
But here's the issue.
If someone makes 20 bucks an hour, loses their job, goes on unemployment, comes to you and you say, I'll give you 15 bucks an hour.
And they go, okay.
And then you're like, why aren't they calling back?
They could be telling unemployment, I got an offer, but it was under my normal wage.
And they'll say, no, no, don't take it.
Because the problem is, if somebody makes, let's say somebody makes like 50k a year, and they get laid off, and they're desperate.
Unemployment covers a very small amount.
Then they get offered a job at 35.
What they actually say is, if you take that underpaying job, your bills, you won't be able to pay them, you will end up in the exact same position, and it'll be for longer, and it will reinstate another round of benefits.
So the math actually is, don't take an underpaying job, otherwise you'll end up paying more unemployment.
You see how it works?
matt strickland
Yeah.
Or I do.
tim pool
Not that I'm saying it's justified.
I'm saying that's the logic they give.
matt strickland
Yeah.
I mean, everything the government puts their hands on turns to shit.
And that's the moral of the story.
That's the bottom line.
tim pool
Yeah, well, you know, that's truth.
That's truth.
John L says, what is Libby's excuse for the post-millennial headlines of Antifa forced
protesters?
unidentified
That was funny.
tim pool
I got you.
libby emmons
You did.
Yeah, you got me.
tim pool
I was reading his post-mortem.
It was like Antifa protests, shoots cop, burns down buildings.
And I'm like, hold on a minute.
libby emmons
You know, it was interesting because we had run stories about that before where the headline called them domestic terrorists.
And this was a story that Andy Ngo was working on.
And he and I talked about it at length.
And apparently it's actually called the Atlanta Forest.
And he thought that by saying defenders, he was making fun of them.
tim pool
Well, why would you want to make fun of them?
Why just do the news?
libby emmons
We didn't end up totally agreeing on that headline.
tim pool
Yeah, even Cassandra wrote a story and she called them protesters, and then I said the same thing.
I was like, TimCast.com, protest?
What is this?
And then later it says they're charged with domestic terrorism, and I'm like, let's just say, alleged domestic terrorists.
libby emmons
Our previous headlines had said domestic terrorists.
So I think maybe we were just switching it up a little bit.
ian crossland
Alleged is key, if they've just been charged.
libby emmons
But I think they were charged.
They were charged with domestic terrorism, I believe.
ian crossland
The guy that shot the cop in the woods?
libby emmons
Allegedly.
But then he got shot.
Allegedly.
He was allegedly killed.
tim pool
Well, he's dead, and you can't defame the dead.
But you gotta understand, the scariest thing of this story, about these Antifa terrorists, is that they crossed state lines with guns.
libby emmons
You know, that's really a disconcerting situation.
I don't think you should... there should be obviously checkpoints so that you're not allowed to cross.
tim pool
They cross state lines with guns.
ian crossland
Shout out to the United States.
tim pool
That's crazy.
Can't believe they would do that.
libby emmons
Could you even imagine?
unidentified
That's just... heavens.
tim pool
Mercy!
All right, B. Walsh says, I was in Walmart one night at about 8.30 p.m., so in a busy area, not so real late, they only had self-checkout.
I forced them to put someone on the register, said there's 20 employees doing nothing.
Yo, you know what I can't stand?
We would go, what store would we go to?
We stopped going there.
I think it's Weiss, the supermarket chain out here, because our self-checkout doesn't work.
Here's what happens.
matt strickland
I know what you're gonna say.
tim pool
What do you think?
matt strickland
I hate it, man.
So you ring something up, and then it tells you, put it in the bag.
unidentified
Exactly!
tim pool
And then you're like, it's in the bag!
It's in the bag!
It's like, please place item in the bag.
unidentified
It is!
tim pool
It's sitting right there!
matt strickland
So you have to take it out and put it back in.
unidentified
Exactly.
libby emmons
Or when they say, please remove the item from the bagging area.
And you're like, there's nothing there.
I literally didn't put anything there.
tim pool
And then I'm going, I'm putting it down and then it's like, it won't scan anything and
I pick it back up and it's like, please return the item.
And you're like, I put it back down and then it goes, please wait for assistance.
Oh, are you kidding me?
And then we're like, hello, is any human here?
libby emmons
There's no humans.
matt strickland
Nope.
I just want to walk down the aisle and just push everything onto the floor, man.
It just pisses me off.
libby emmons
That's what they do in New York and then they steal it.
They put face masks on because, you know, they're COVID compliant.
Walk in with garbage bags, take everything off the shelves and run out.
And security guards, like nobody will stop them.
And you'll even have employees telling customers, like, don't do anything and they'll just film it.
matt strickland
But everything is becoming automated.
I get an email probably once a month from companies that are making these robotic arms that can run your grill for you.
tim pool
All right.
libby emmons
That doesn't sound like it's going to result in good grilling.
matt strickland
No, it doesn't.
tim pool
Steven Sanders says, Tim, a lung cancer patient and myself were arrested December 12, 2022, with another veteran, Deland, Florida.
For not wearing a mask held in police car.
3 hours 47 minutes.
All charges following SSA mask policy last month.
Footage available.
In Florida!
Where's Ron DeSantis?
On that one.
Big hail fans says, big fan Tim.
The fact that this was allowed to happen is absolutely disgusting.
Wouldn't this qualify as biological warfare?
When do we bring back tarring and feathering?
I don't think tarring and feathering is actually effective.
Not that I think locking someone up for, you know, a long period of time is effective either.
libby emmons
Well, if you tar and feather someone, that's death.
You kill them by doing that.
tim pool
Were they killing them?
libby emmons
Yeah, you can die from that.
tim pool
Oh, yeah, yeah.
They used to do it all the time to people.
That's a weird thing to do.
libby emmons
They also used to draw and quarter people.
tim pool
That would also kill you.
Okay, so I'm watching 1883.
I don't like it.
Alright?
libby emmons
I don't know.
tim pool
You guys have seen it?
ian crossland
I haven't seen it, no.
tim pool
Everybody's telling me last night dinner like you gotta see it.
It's so good.
It's it's the Oregon Trail It's this it's this it's a prequel to Yellowstone and they're and they're going and there's like it's like if you ever played the game Oregon showing your kid Oh, you're gonna love it, and then I'm watching it, and it's literally like every five seconds It's people just killing each other and I'm like come on man And then and then it's apparently like it's it's realistic to how things were back then I'm like Come on, there's like a pickpocket, and then, and maybe this is true, fine, the main character just shoots him in the back, and then he, and then everyone starts, someone else pickpockets, starts stomping on him while he's got like buckshot in his back, and then he goes, he took my wallet, and grabs his wallet back, and then they literally drag him, and just string him up right there, killing him on the spot, and I'm like, for real?
Okay, maybe, maybe, maybe.
Then, there's like, I don't want to spoil it, but there's like a big fight happens and a kid dies, so they go to the marshal, it was played by Billy Bob Thornton, and he's like, well, let's go, and then he walks into the saloon, and then he goes, he yells out the guy's name, and then he's like, look, I, boom, shoots him, shoots it, shoots a guy, shoots a guy, shoots a guy, and he goes, are there any else?
And then he points at another guy and he walks up and shoots him, and I'm like, come on.
unidentified
That's just not.
tim pool
Literally every 10 seconds someone's dying and it's like, how would human civilization function if this is how it actually went down?
And people are saying like, that's really how it was.
You'd walk into a saloon and just murder 10 people and walk away and nobody... I don't think that's right.
libby emmons
The other thing too is whenever you see these shows and a whole bunch of people get killed, no one has any emotional reaction.
And I don't think that's accurate either.
ian crossland
Like people vomiting and stuff?
libby emmons
Like yeah, you'd have an emotional reaction.
You'd be like freaked out if somebody walked into where you were sitting and shot 10 people.
tim pool
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Like, Leo wasn't crazy.
Like, tried to steal his camera or something and then just walked off.
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matt strickland
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tim pool
Right on.
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ian crossland
Anyone wants clarification, it's Matt4VA.
It's F-O-R, not the number, but the word for.
Matt4VA.
Good to see you, man.
matt strickland
Thank you.
ian crossland
Looking forward to spend some time at Gore Melts playing a show.
matt strickland
I can't wait, man.
I'm ready for you guys to come down and rock with us.
ian crossland
It's going to be hot.
And Matt Gates, when he was on, we were talking about blockchain backups for voting to secure the actual votes.
That's very interesting.
So if you and Matt can ever get in touch, I think that might be something we can start pushing forward with.
matt strickland
I would love to.
ian crossland
Yeah.
Great stuff.
All right.
Bye, everyone.
I'm Ian Cross.
I'm happy to see you.
Happy Monday.
Take care of yourself tonight.
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It's been a good show.
Really hoping that you do well, my friend Matt.
It sounds like your head is in the right place.
That was a good show.
Let's go to the next one.
tim pool
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