Jan. 20, 2023 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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you you | |
| you What just happened? | ||
| Like, YouTube picked up, like, the pre-show? | ||
| I was talking about making a video game and, like, open-source rules or something. | ||
| Oh, I hope people heard it. | ||
| It's like, hot mic! | ||
| Tim's talking about making a game. | ||
| I was talking about my hair sticking up. | ||
| Talking about your hair sticking up. | ||
| Yeah, I think that's what popped up. | ||
| That's embarrassing. | ||
| Is it? | ||
| So Stephen Crowder put out a response to Jeremy Boring's response. | ||
| Let me give you the gist. | ||
| You've got two juggernauts in independent anti-establishment slash conservative media space. | ||
| Crowder is accusing the Daily Wire. | ||
| The Daily Wire's co-CEO Jeremy Boring issued a response. | ||
| Stephen Crowder just issued another response and the drama is heating up. | ||
| And in this response, Crowder posted clips of a phone call he had with Jeremy Boring, | ||
| which is now just lighting up the drama even more, because you've got some people saying | ||
| they don't like what Jeremy said, but a lot of people pointing out that, you know, why | ||
| did Stephen record Jeremy Boring's phone call in the first place? | ||
| It's like, that's kind of a, you know, I don't know, man. | ||
| People are not happy that that happened. | ||
| So we're going to talk about all this. | ||
| And this is also lighting up in mainstream press. | ||
| It's like the big con, the drama between Stephen Crowder and the Daily Wire. | ||
| You know, it's convenient for us that right after the speaker's vote, we're like, man, there's no news, and all of a sudden, this drama happens. | ||
| Hold my beer. | ||
| Yeah, hold my beer. | ||
| So we're going to talk about that but we do have news. | ||
| We had a lot of stuff out of the World Economic Forum. | ||
| Al Gore saying that he like went on this like he may as well held up a sign saying the end is nigh with a scraggly beard on the side of a highway screaming about how it's all coming to an end because it was like an unhinged rant and it's funny coming from a guy who like 20 years ago said we had 10 years or whatever. | ||
| So like okay yeah calm down like we want to be good stewards of the earth but saying it's going to rain bombs and people are like a billion refugees are going to storm countries. | ||
| Slow down there buddy. | ||
| And then we got them saying that there will be a ban on free speech in this country. | ||
| So we'll talk about that. | ||
| Plus Alec Baldwin, my friends, I told you, you know what they said? | ||
| First of all, he's being charged with involuntary manslaughter. | ||
| And they found live ammo. | ||
| And where did they find it? | ||
| Well, there was some, like, in the box of ammo. | ||
| There was some lying around. | ||
| And there was live ammo in Alec Baldwin's gun belt that he was wearing. | ||
| So when y'all say, like, but how could the bullet have gotten to the gun? | ||
| I don't know, maybe the guy who shot the gun had the bullet on him, had bullets on him. | ||
| I'm going to go off on this because we talked a lot about Alec Baldwin last year when it happened. | ||
| So we'll talk about that. | ||
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This is looking good. | |
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| Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Candice Owens. | ||
| Hello, hello. | ||
| It's lovely to be back here. | ||
| So, uh, everybody knows who you are, but I guess you just gotta introduce yourself anyway. | ||
| My name is Candace Owens, just as he said. | ||
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I would like to confirm that statement. | |
| Tell me more. | ||
| I would like to also first say that this was not planned, a part of this thing that blew up this week. | ||
| We booked me on for this exact night before the end of last year. | ||
| So it just happened to be that I am on when all of this drama is unfolding with The Daily Wire and Steven Crowder. | ||
| This was not a plot. | ||
| They don't know you are. | ||
| Are you on contract with The Daily Wire? | ||
| Is that how it is? | ||
| Are you an employee with The Daily Wire? | ||
| I'm not an employee. | ||
| I am contracted. | ||
| I do my podcast show five days a week on The Daily Wire, and I've now been doing that for almost three years, I think. | ||
| Two, three years. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Cool, right on. | ||
| Well, we definitely got to talk about the Crowder stuff, because before we went live, you were just going off about all this stuff, and there's a lot to say, so we'll get into that. | ||
| We got Luke hanging out. | ||
| Hey, guys, my name's Luke Hradowski here of wearechange.org and the World Economic Forum hates your freedom. | ||
| I love my freedom, and I value it, especially in this field with all the crazy stuff happening right now. | ||
| I've been independent since day one. | ||
| I'm still independent right now at all costs, and that's why I made this shirt that reads I tested positive for freedom, which you could exclusively get and support me at the same time on TheBestPoliticalShirts.com because you do. | ||
| That's why I'm here. | ||
| Thank you again so much for having me. | ||
| Ian Crossland from IanCrossland.net. | ||
| What's up, everybody? | ||
| Candice, great to see you again. | ||
| Always a pleasure. | ||
| Always a pleasure. | ||
| Let's get down to this, Serge. | ||
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Yeah, I am at Serge.com. | |
| Always happy to see you. | ||
| It's going to be a good episode, so let's go. | ||
| All right, so here's the first story that we have, and this one's gonna get spicy. | ||
| We got this video clip from Steven Crowder titled, I Didn't Want to Do This. | ||
| Crowder has issued a response to Jeremy Boring's response. | ||
| In it, Steven Crowder releases some audio, notably... Well, let me see if I can play this. | ||
| Do we have the audio properly set up? | ||
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Yep. | |
| Here we go. | ||
| We'll play the beginning. | ||
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They don't get deals that... They can be wage slaves for a little bit. | |
| Come over and make a salary and grow their brand. | ||
| They can be wage slaves for a little bit. | ||
| They can be wage slaves. | ||
| God bless the talkboy. | ||
| Those things are worth like $5,000 now. | ||
| It's an expensive gag. | ||
| That is kind of crazy. | ||
| I didn't realize they were so expensive. | ||
| This is a tough one. | ||
| Stephen's not here to defend himself, but Candice is here to give her perspective on this. | ||
| So I'll just throw it to you and give me your thoughts on his response and what happened with the Daily Wire because I know you've got a lot to say. | ||
| I do have a lot to say about this because obviously the situation impacted me and impacted all of the other hosts | ||
| on the Daily Wire. | ||
| So first of all, I feel like I just want to say this, which is that I have never once, I've been with Daily Wire two to | ||
| three years now, you have never once heard me come out to defend the Daily | ||
| Wire on anything. | ||
| This is not the first time Daily Wire has been in a firestorm or has been, had some beef that has gone on, whether it's | ||
| for Ben or Matt or Michael that's going on the last three years. | ||
| I tend to stay very much in my lane. | ||
| As I mentioned before, I'm not an employee of Daily Wire. | ||
| I'm not required to come out and defend them. | ||
| And I'm usually just not interested in these beefs that seem to be so fickle. | ||
| They last for a day and then they go away. | ||
| And it's probably the reason why, for whatever, doesn't really matter what anybody thinks about me. | ||
| I have a good relationship with pretty much everybody. | ||
| Like, there's no one that I can't be invited and be in the same room with. | ||
| Everybody sort of hates each other, but I'm kind of, I can, Alex Jones has a good opinion of me. | ||
| Everyone from Alex Jones to Ben Shapiro to Paul Joseph Watson. | ||
| Mike Cernovich is somebody that I call and ask for advice from time to time. | ||
| Jack Masobic. | ||
| Like, I'm a kind of person that judges people based on how they treat people, right? | ||
| I'm not interested in dabbling in this nonsense. | ||
| Nonsense from time to time that appears and then goes away and ebbs and flows. | ||
| This situation though was different because basically Stephen Crowder decided to launch | ||
| a war and didn't really care who got hit, you know, with the shrapnel, right? | ||
| He comes out, he makes this glorious video, which it's shocking to me that people cannot | ||
| see the amount of acting that is going into this. | ||
| We all understand. | ||
| He was a childhood actor. | ||
| I loved that show, Arthur. | ||
| He was the brain. | ||
| He is an actor. | ||
| At the end of the day, he's an actor. | ||
| It's also why he's so entertaining when it comes to politics. | ||
| He's a talented person. | ||
| But that people cannot discern the amount of acting that has gone on in this is stunning to me. | ||
| I don't know where people's discernment, what's going on with discernment, where you can't just spiritually discern that this feels a little weird. | ||
| Right? | ||
| You're recording conversations with someone that you have told us you are friends with forever. | ||
| Oh, and by the way, at the end of you saying that you're just trying to do the right thing, you're also saying, I'm going to launch my own thing. | ||
| Right? | ||
| So, just when I first saw the first video that he dropped, obviously I'm not privy to negotiations that happen on the Daily Wire. | ||
| I had no idea they were negotiating with Steven Crowder. | ||
| Again, not my business. | ||
| I came into work one day, suddenly Brett Cooper was there. | ||
| Not my business. | ||
| I don't know who they're hiring. | ||
| I don't own the company, right? | ||
| But what I started getting was after I had dropped my podcast in the comment section, everyone was basically tearing me apart, being like, blink twice if you need help. | ||
| First thing, like I'm a hostage situation. | ||
| Or saying, if you don't say anything about Steven Crowder, you're a fraud, you're a fraud. | ||
| Just like suddenly you're a fraud, you're a fraud. | ||
| So I go and I watch this video and just like everybody else watching it live, his first video, your instincts are like, whoa, he's He's throwing some bombs. | ||
| He's calling it Big Con. | ||
| He's saying, essentially, that we are enslaved by these contract terms. | ||
| He actually uses the term enslavement. | ||
| If you don't want to be a slave, you know, you may be a co-worker. | ||
| I'm going to figure it out for all of us. | ||
| Like, you're a hero. | ||
| You're a martyr. | ||
| And because I was getting so many comments, the first thing I did was that I messaged my EP and I said, we have to cover this tomorrow on the show because now everyone thinks I'm a fraud and they think that I've signed with fraudulent terms or slave-like terms. | ||
| And that's so totally unfair to me. | ||
| So my interest in this is that it hit me and it hit everybody else at Daily Wire and it was unfair. | ||
| Do you, I don't know, you don't have to answer this I guess, but do you have a similar contract? | ||
| There are certain terms I recognize, that's why I immediately knew it was Daily Wire. | ||
| So, for example, the fee reduction if you miss a day of work, right? | ||
| Like, if you miss a day of work. | ||
| We are paying for X amount of episodes, and this is a steep amount if you miss one day of work. | ||
| When you first see that, when I first received a contract from Daily Wire, I went, that's a shocking number to see. | ||
| Then you have to calculate, and by the way, mine was not this, I want to be very clear, I don't have a $50 million contract. | ||
| If there's anything I should be upset about, it's that they were going to pay that much to Steven Crowder, right? | ||
| Not you. | ||
| I need to go renegotiate my contract. | ||
| But, so you see it, and it's shocking, and then you read under, which is what he did not include, when he says, so if I get hit by a car, like, I'm just gonna, $100,000 a day, he didn't tell you how much he made. | ||
| You don't know what $100,000 means unless you can see what were they offering him. | ||
| And you can calculate yourselves, okay, so what they're basically saying is that we're paying you $63,000 a day. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| He purposely, like, excluded right beneath it that says that actually it's pro rata if it's an event of an emergency. | ||
| That's a very insignificant thing that would allow people not to be enraged at seeing this. | ||
| Yeah, just to clarify, when Jeremy released his video, he showed the additional portion that said, in the event of temporary disability, they prorate you, there's no penalty. | ||
| And then we talked about this last night. | ||
| I said, the $100,000 seems punitive. | ||
| I think you mentioned, yeah, but what about daily wires costs? | ||
| I said, oh, yeah, fair point. | ||
| That's exactly right. | ||
| They have all of these contracts that exist. | ||
| It's very easy to understand. | ||
| Here's $100,000. | ||
| We're paying you $63,000 for the content. | ||
| They also have a bunch of contracts. | ||
| Everybody's working on the show. | ||
| So for example, my EP, she's contracted. | ||
| I don't know what her contract says. | ||
| Maybe it says that no matter what, she is guaranteed this amount of money. | ||
| So if I magically call out, they still have to pay her. | ||
| They still have to pay the camera guy. | ||
| Maybe the advertising is punitive. | ||
| If you didn't give us the content, the advertisers maybe then say, okay, JLWire has to pay us $5,000 if Kansas doesn't read ads on that day. | ||
| You don't know, when you have an organization this big, what everybody's contracts are. | ||
| So I assume it's $60,000 and then they're baking in an extra $38,000 to cover their asses to pay everybody else that maybe showed up for work that day. | ||
| But Jeremy did say punitive. | ||
| It is! | ||
| because he said, well, you're right about the costs all around it, but he said, he basically | ||
| said one circumstance is you're choosing not to work and one is you're unable to work. | ||
| If you're unable, we get it, we'll just prorate based on the lost day. | ||
| But he also said something interesting that you could make up that day by banking it at | ||
| any time. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I do that, and that's why it's so annoying. | ||
| So I see these things. | ||
| To people who don't know how this works, first and foremost, it's a term sheet. | ||
| He was never given a contract. | ||
| It was a term sheet. | ||
| It's essentially a starting conversation. | ||
| Here's what we have in mind. | ||
| Everything's baked in. | ||
| Some things literally don't make sense. | ||
| Like in my term sheet, it said, you know, Whatever about they wanted access to my snapchat. | ||
| I don't have a snapchat. | ||
| They wanted access to my rumble. | ||
| I don't have a rumble. | ||
| They don't want access. | ||
| It's literally just like here's something so we can get the conversation started and really the thing you need to pay attention to is like this is the money and then of course our lawyer is going to go back and say this makes entirely no sense. | ||
| This makes entirely no sense. | ||
| So then you get to you know Personalize it, so to speak, right? | ||
| When you say, okay, well, this thing makes me nervous because, okay, what if it's not me that's sick, but my son? | ||
| I have two kids, right? | ||
| What if my son breaks his leg and I have to be, I'm not going to not leave his side, so I have to then say, I need to personalize this term sheet and that is what the contract is in for if you come to some agreement that this is what we're going to work on, right? | ||
| This is what we're going to negotiate in good faith, right? | ||
| So he first and foremost lied by saying it was a contract. | ||
| He lied by omission, by not saying how much money. | ||
| So people couldn't calculate, okay, really, how punitive is that $100,000? | ||
| Not that much. | ||
| And you consider that there's a bunch of costs that go in to producing a show and people that they may have paid editors. | ||
| In this case, he produces his own show, but you know, editors editors, writers, no matter what, | ||
| The Daily Wire has to receive that package and do something to it. | ||
| So, and by the way, like I said, we know it's at least standard, | ||
| so it's not because they're trying to hit Steven Crowder. | ||
| They've given this to all of us, and your job then, if you're a big boy, right, | ||
| if you can put on your big boy pants, is to go to your lawyer and to say, | ||
| I'm not doing that, I'm not doing that, this makes no sense, negotiate. | ||
| Now, if you are a young talent that was discovered on YouTube, | ||
| as I was way back in the day, who comes from no money, as I was way back in the day, | ||
| this could be unfair, because I can't afford a lawyer to go through line by line of this and red line this. | ||
| That is not the circumstance for Steven Crowder. | ||
| He's already told us he's got so much money, he's more successful, and he doesn't need the money, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| So why didn't he just hire a lawyer? | ||
| But that's what he said in the rebuttal. | ||
| It's not about me. | ||
| It's about the Daily Wire signing new, upcoming young people to these terms, and they don't have lawyers. | ||
| And in that capacity, he hits Brett Cooper. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Now he's basically, so who is a young upcoming talent that got signed with Daily Wire? | ||
| There's only, what, five hosts of shows on the Daily Wire? | ||
| I mean, so you're talking about Matt Walsh? | ||
| No, he's not a young upcoming talent that's just been signed. | ||
| Are you talking about Michael Knowles? | ||
| No, he's not a young upcoming talent. | ||
| You're not talking about Kent Stones? | ||
| I don't think we would say Andrew Clavin is a young upcoming talent. | ||
| So you're talking about Brett Cooper? | ||
| That's insulting to Brett Cooper. | ||
| You have no idea what, he's just saying shit, right? | ||
| And it's not like he's reached out to us and said, hey, like, I'm doing this for all of us. | ||
| Like, it's not he reached out independently to Daily Wire hosts and been like, are you dealing with these egregious terms? | ||
| No, he is doing this purely, let's not even try to make this anything but a selfish act that was to benefit Steven Crowder, who wants to launch his own network, because, and by the way, and I say this, this is the most important part of this, and nobody is talking about this. | ||
| He receives the term sheet, okay, and he thinks it's so egregious that he's got to make this video four months later, right? | ||
| I don't know what happened in those four months after they started negotiating. | ||
| I guess Steven Crowder woke up, new year, new me. | ||
| I hate the Daily Wire, so I'm going to go after them. | ||
| He thinks it's so egregious. | ||
| The first thing he does is counter offer and say, let's start talking about 140 million. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So if it was so outrageous, why did he go back to them and say, no, actually we can have this conversation, but let's start talking about 140 million. | ||
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Right. | |
| It was only when the Daily Wire then turned that down that the term sheet became so egregious that he had to do something about it. | ||
| I'll just add real quick to everybody. | ||
| Steven Crowder is coming on the show on Monday. | ||
| I know he's not here to defend himself. | ||
| Did you speak to him? | ||
| Because he might have recorded your conversation. | ||
| So you might want to talk to him about whatever the hell it is you said to him. | ||
| I mean, yeah, my view is I was kind of surprised to hear that Steven recorded the phone call | ||
| with Jeremy because I don't know why you would. | ||
| Oh, and by the way, it should be mentioned, that conversation, so they stopped negotiating | ||
| completely which Jeremy made clear in his video. | ||
| He doesn't even know what this is coming from because this conversation stopped when Steven Crowder then came back with a counter term sheet offer of a glorious $140 million over X amount of years and they said, we just can't do this, right? | ||
| Then he sat and he stewed and he said nothing until one week ago, he reaches out to Jeremy and he asks him to talk on the phone. | ||
| And that was one week ago. | ||
| That is the conversation that you guys are all hearing that he is playing right now. | ||
| So he plotted this. | ||
| This is a plot line. | ||
| He planned to then record him to go back and to make this video. | ||
| If he had recorded this way back during negotiations, maybe you could say there was no plot. | ||
| Why did he reach out to Jeremy exactly one week ago when they hadn't discussed anything pertaining to the contract? | ||
| And they said no one walked away last year around October, November. | ||
| And then suddenly in January, he reaches out one week ago and says, hey, can we get on the phone? | ||
| And he decides maybe I should record. | ||
| No, it's because he realized he had nowhere left to go, and his next plot in this storyline, in this terrible childhood acting that he's doing right now, was, okay, I have to do my own thing now, and so I need to drum up some drama to get everybody that I know to believe that I am a martyr for our beliefs, and they should dump their subscriptions to everybody else that's part of Big Con and join the Mug Club. | ||
| How can people not see? | ||
| I mean, the writing is just so on the wall. | ||
| The fact that he recorded Jeremy says that he did plan. | ||
| Of course he planned! | ||
| Look, I'm not here to impugn his honor. | ||
| I think you're absolutely entitled to your view, working with the Daily Wire and everything you've seen. | ||
| But it does suggest that he knew he was calling Jeremy for this reason. | ||
| I think Crowder is... I don't know if I... I think it might be too far for me to believe that Crowder is trying to do this to pull subscribers from Daily Wire or make more money for himself. | ||
| Because the dude already makes a lot of money. | ||
| But he does not, he thinks that he is worthy of $140 million a year. | ||
| Do you believe that Steven Crowder right now is making $140 million a year? | ||
| I bet he could. | ||
| You bet he could. | ||
| I absolutely do think he could. | ||
| You bet he could, but how's he gonna do that? | ||
| How's he gonna start that? | ||
| He just had a couple of kids. | ||
| How's he gonna start that? | ||
| You launch a war in a conservative movement and you move people away from a business that you wanna model, you know, I don't know who's modeling who, I don't know who started this first, but you basically say, I'm not them, come with me. | ||
| And that's exactly what he's doing. | ||
| Call a spade a spade. | ||
| Call a spade a spade, okay? | ||
| This was a plotline, and that annoys me because he dragged me into this plotline, okay? | ||
| He dragged us all into this plotline. | ||
| He's basically saying, at one point in this video, this is what really set me off. | ||
| He's like, and so you might be noticing that a lot of these people, their viewpoints are sanitized, and this is why. | ||
| This contract, this is why. | ||
| Essentially saying that Candace is controlled, Matt Walsh is controlled, Michael Knowles is controlled, Brett Cooper is controlled, and now we know why, guys. | ||
| Because I have this contract, which I've conveniently excerpted portions that could allow you to discern for yourself, but it's actually not that unreasonable as a starter conversation, which is what a term sheet is, right? | ||
| And instead, I'm just gonna smear all these people that are associated with the other wire, and that's why I'm pissed off. | ||
| That's why I'm pissed off, because I then was fielding comments calling me a fraud because they thought that I agreed to these terms and that my voice was being controlled. | ||
| You know what I told Steve and I said, I think ideologically I understand his gripe with the contracts and I agree with the contracts. | ||
| We don't do contracts the way the Daily Wire does. | ||
| There was no contract, I just want to say that one more time. | ||
| Right, so contract, different term, terms. | ||
| I don't do terms the way The Daily Wire does. | ||
| It's like the Joe Rogan story I often tell, that he booted me from his show twice and I didn't get mad at him. | ||
| I was like, well, I'm kind of pissed off that he booted me twice, like happened twice, and I flew out to LA, but he doesn't owe me any favors. | ||
| I'm not going to rag on Joe Rogan because he didn't do me a favor. | ||
| If I was on his show, it'd be really great for me. | ||
| It didn't work out. | ||
| I'm going to carry on with my life and my business. | ||
| I've negotiated with The Daily Wire. | ||
| We couldn't figure out something that worked. | ||
| We're very different in that sense. | ||
| And I said, well, you know, it was nice hanging out and let's work on stuff in the future and we'll make awesome stuff. | ||
| I told Stephen, I said, I think that the Daily Wire is a massive net positive, especially with like, what is a woman? | ||
| I mean, that was a massive cultural force that got even mainstream, like, moderate lefty types to be like, oh yeah, I've seen that. | ||
| and start this conversation. Then you did the BLM documentary of course | ||
| that had, I don't think it was nearly as big as What Is A Woman, but it certainly had a | ||
| cultural response. | ||
| These things are tremendous and so my attitude is like, look, | ||
| I don't like the contracts, they're very business-like, they're very entertainment | ||
| industry. | ||
| I understand that Daily Wire does it. | ||
| If someone came to me and said, we're going to get investors, we're going to get some prominent conservative voices, and we're going to launch a company that rivals Disney, I'd be like, man, I don't like Disney. | ||
| And they'll go, yeah, yeah, but it will be America-loving, independently-minded, meritocratic. | ||
| I'll say, oh, I'll take that over Disney any day. | ||
| And then I'll go and do my thing that I think should be the way I want it to be. | ||
| And I'm not gonna be mad at The Daily Wire for The Daily Wire doing a thing. | ||
| Yeah, Phil, what you're describing, first and foremost, are the free markets, right? | ||
| If you don't like it somewhere, leave. | ||
| I thought we were conservatives. | ||
| I thought that's what you're trying to preserve, right? | ||
| A free market mentality. | ||
| If Daily Wire is so awful, right, and so predatory, and treating their talent so horrifically, they'd have no talent, right? | ||
| Then, literally, Steven Crowder wouldn't have to launch a war. | ||
| He just had to launch an alternative business with better contracts and people would leave willingly. | ||
| They would say, there's more money there, there's better treatment, I'm leaving. | ||
| That's how the free markets work, right? | ||
| Because he did not feel, maybe he's feeling a little insecure, he thought that he was a free agent, he feels like he's Tom Brady, everyone's gonna make me all these offers, and he felt like it came in extremely low, Tom Brady. | ||
| I'm Tom Brady. | ||
| Why am I getting offered $50 million? | ||
| That should be offered $140 million. | ||
| And the team says, no, thank you, Tom Brady. | ||
| And then he goes, well, I'm effing Tom Brady. | ||
| Well, the truth is, it's like, I think Steven Crowder was feeling insecure. | ||
| I think he was reeling after those negotiations. | ||
| I think there are very few conservative networks that can offer him that money. | ||
| He's actually, you know, he's burned a few bridges, right? | ||
| Fox News, he's burned a bridge. | ||
| He's burned a bridge with the police. | ||
| How many other companies in the conservative movement does he think can reasonably afford to pay him what he thinks he's worth? | ||
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Right? | |
| The Daily Wire. | ||
| So when he was done, I think that he was feeling tremendously insecure, right? | ||
| When those negotiations failed in October or November, he stewed on it in November, stewed on it in December, came up in January and decided, okay, I'm gonna have to launch my own outfit. | ||
| I'm gonna go after the Daily Wire. | ||
| And his plotline included calling Jeremy Boren, catching him on cam- on- on- we only have seen a piece of his conversation. | ||
| Jeremy has already tweeted that he called him like, hey, let's catch up. | ||
| And then- and now he's- he was like, let's talk about the kids and Christmas. | ||
| They were friends. | ||
| Very close friends. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| Steven Crowder has said they were friends. | ||
| Not colleagues, not associates, not, you know, like I would say me and Matt Walsh and we're associates, but friends. | ||
| He called his friends to talk about Christmas and his kids and said he recorded him and then dropped that recording a week later pretending that he was doing this to be a martyr. | ||
| I just don't see how people don't realize this guy is a bad, a fundamentally bad person. | ||
| Like, I don't understand how this is even a debate. | ||
| The phone call thing's rough. | ||
| I mean... Who records their friends? | ||
| With friends like these, who needs enemies? | ||
| Who needs the left when we've got friends like these in the conservative movement? | ||
| But the other thing too is, I say this about Project Veritas, I think Veritas should release the raw when they do this stuff. | ||
| There's a lot of stuff that Veritas has done that's been very important. | ||
| But I'm often like, you know, it could quash a lot of these arguments about deceptive editing if you just say like, We editorialized, here's the raw footage you can see for yourself, minus private information, if there's like addresses or phone numbers. | ||
| In this context, I'm really not a fan of snippets being released, because it's like, okay, well, what led up to that moment? | ||
| Yeah, when he said wage slaves, we don't know the context of, it sounds to me like he was potentially asking a question about, well, do you do this, you know, with all your children? | ||
| He's like, well, this is different. | ||
| You're a big person coming in, and we don't have to put as much money behind you, so we're concerned that you're gonna have an ad drop. | ||
| If you're a new person, you're saying, you come to Daily Wire, and by this is completely a guess, I have no idea, you come to Daily Wire and you're like, hey, I want to try this thing, you know, can you make, can you make my name bigger? | ||
| Essentially, you're saying like, here are the wages we're going to pay you, you're going to work your ass off, you know what I mean? | ||
| And you have the benefit of having the entire Daily Wire network behind you. | ||
| I think he was probably trying to describe, again, I have no idea, The different mentality between getting talent like Steven Crowder and trying to get him in a contract versus getting talent that's new and is looking to become a Daily Wire because they basically absorb all the benefit. | ||
| Again, I don't know. | ||
| It is exactly what he was saying. | ||
| That's probably what he was saying. | ||
| And now he excerpted wage slaves as if he was these slaves that are working for me. | ||
| It's a colloquialism, you know what I mean? | ||
| He's using that term, not seriously, but it allows him to play that excerpt to make it sound like this is how The Daily Wire treats their employees. | ||
| I mean, it's just horrible stuff that he's doing with Daily Wire. | ||
| Jeremy was saying that if a new person with no audience comes to Daily Wire, they're basically going to put them on a contract with a wage and then they're going to own all the content that they say they're going to own. | ||
| Then when the person's done off the contract, they can go continue to be famous and successful. | ||
| Although Daily Wire will still own the stuff that they paid for to get produced while that person was there. | ||
| And he used the term wage slave. | ||
| Now, I'm with you. | ||
| I don't think the words themselves are that big of a deal. | ||
| No, but he wants it to come across like a big idea, like it's a very big deal because he's relying on business ignorance. | ||
| He keeps doing this. | ||
| He keeps relying on business ignorance and he's appealing, and this is literally a socialist tactic. | ||
| He's appealing to like, you know, the Amazon employees who want to like stick it to the man and then they boycott and they pick it because they're not getting paid, you know, $50,000 an hour and being treated to ice cream once a week. | ||
| He's appealing to people that he's like, okay, think of yourself as an employee, not as a business person. | ||
| Right? | ||
| This is a business person mindset. | ||
| This is what I get from this conversation. | ||
| Obviously, I'm privy to these talks with Jeremy and Caleb. | ||
| This is who I negotiate my contracts with. | ||
| And there have literally been times, because I'm a big girl, and I go and I sit with them and I say, there's no way I'm signing this line. | ||
| You know? | ||
| They move an inch this way. | ||
| I move an inch that way. | ||
| They move an inch this way. | ||
| And then here we are. | ||
| We meet here in the middle where we all feel like this is a good contract and nobody's a slave. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Because in order to sign a contract, if you fully comprehend it, you're not a slave. | ||
| You're just not a slave. | ||
| Something I think about Jeremy personally, and not too relevant, but I think he enjoys negotiating. | ||
| I think he's a true businessman. | ||
| If you want to work with Daily Wire, you've got to know that going into it. | ||
| Jeremy enjoys negotiating. | ||
| I want to read a super chat real quick because this is an important point. | ||
| IDG says, Daily Wire's agenda, make profit. | ||
| Crowder's agenda, saving American experiment. | ||
| Exhibit. | ||
| JBP deletes tweet supporting Crowder. | ||
| Exhibit B, your poll. | ||
| I'll tell you what I think. I don't completely disagree with that. | ||
| I think the Daily Wire is a machine. | ||
| I think the Daily Wire is a machine that is not the ideological system that I would personally build. | ||
| We do things very differently here. | ||
| The people who are here are on salary with no terms. | ||
| If pop culture crisis got bad for you... | ||
| This is a small company. | ||
| That's how it is when you work for me. | ||
| I have a company too, a small company, where we have seven employees, and it's familial. | ||
| You see, Savannah's downstairs. | ||
| We get to hang out and do fun things. | ||
| We're a small company. | ||
| If we grew and we suddenly had 400 employees, things have to get a lot more serious and professional. | ||
| That's true, but I've talked to Jeremy a lot about this, and so it may just be we're small, and then he's like, when you get bigger, man, you're going to run into these things. | ||
| And I'm like, maybe, but here's my thing. | ||
| I like the Daily Wire. | ||
| I think the Daily Wire is, I think Jeremy and everybody else involved, and Jeremy's the one who made the video, are seeking to make money and use that money and build more and make more money. | ||
| If The Daily Wire succeeds and makes money and then makes more movies and makes more documentaries, that means we're going to get more What is a Woman? | ||
| It means we're going to get more, you know, Gina Carano's. | ||
| It means Hollywood will be weakened. | ||
| It means as Hollywood falls from the hill, a machine that actually, at least to some degree, shares our values will be there. | ||
| It may be, in your opinion, a cold, faceless machine, but at least the cold, faceless machine is saying meritocracy, meritocracy. | ||
| I'll be like, okay, well, Well, LOL to anyone who thinks that Steven Crowder is not doing this to make money. | ||
| Like, I mean, I just have to outwardly laugh. | ||
| He's the person in a disguise. | ||
| He's a wolf in sheep's clothing, right? | ||
| He's like, I'm not, I'm here because I care about all of you. | ||
| That's why I'm recording my friend and doing this crappy thing where I literally could have just said, no, I don't like those terms and then said to everybody, I'm starting my own outfit. | ||
| Fair. | ||
| You walk away all the time. | ||
| I have walked away. | ||
| I had an offer from the Blaze. | ||
| It didn't work for me. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| I didn't need to piece apart the contract. | ||
| I love those guys. | ||
| I think Tyler is amazing. | ||
| This is what I'm saying. | ||
| People need to stop thinking that he is some knight in shining armor. | ||
| He's not. | ||
| He's not a knight in shining armor. | ||
| And if you can't see that, watch this video because I think his acting is never more apparent. | ||
| Even the titles. | ||
| I didn't want to do this. | ||
| Oh really? | ||
| Then why the hell did you record him? | ||
| What were you doing that for? | ||
| Did you think you were going to go to court? | ||
| Do you think you were going to go to court? | ||
| Because that's the only reason you record someone. | ||
| You'd be like, I don't trust my ex-fucking-wife. | ||
| Pardon my language, okay? | ||
| I don't trust my ex-wife, so I'm going to record this phone call for safety, right? | ||
| You record it because you're nervous that there's going to be a court hearing or the police are going to find out and you've got to back up what you said, okay? | ||
| Why are you recording your friend if not because you think it's going to go to court? | ||
| Oh, because you think it's gonna go to public and you're doing it intentionally because you know you're about to start a war. | ||
| People, please use your common sense. | ||
| I am not even- it's not even because I work for Daily Wire. | ||
| It is because he personally is- he's lying and he insulted me and during his- his lying campaign, he's still lying. | ||
| He even said something in this video where he's like, now they're sending out their- no, no, no. | ||
| You took- if you If you're gonna aim and you're gonna hit somebody with shrapnel and it's gonna be me, you better aim correctly, because I don't like shit like this, okay? | ||
| I have been quiet. | ||
| I know Steven Crowder treats people like absolute trash. | ||
| It's a known thing in the conservative movement. | ||
| Ask anybody that works at The Blaze, any person that's ever had a show on The Blaze, how Steven Crowder treats people. | ||
| By the way, you wanna talk about contract negotiations? | ||
| Why doesn't somebody reach out to Not Gay Jared, right? | ||
| Who used to be with Steven Crowder and figure out why he can't speak. | ||
| Why doesn't Steven Crowder release Not Gay Jared from his NDA? | ||
| I don't like shit like this, is all I'm saying. | ||
| I don't like it. | ||
| I want both Daily Wire and Crowder to succeed. | ||
| We should do a movie. | ||
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That's what we all wanted. | |
| Who cares? | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| I want to do a buddy cop movie. | ||
| Yeah, something like Lethal Weapon, man. | ||
| Me and Steve. | ||
| It's going to be crazy. | ||
| It's going to be nuts. | ||
| Luke's sitting here. | ||
| I don't know what he's doing, man. | ||
| It's just bad business. | ||
| It's just bad business. | ||
| I'm like, this is like, whoa, you know, WWE. | ||
| Let me explain. | ||
| And I'm like, I personally just, you know, I personally don't care, to be honest. | ||
| I want to try and like... I want to talk about The Globalist. | ||
| We will. | ||
| He's like, I've got my notes. | ||
| I want to talk about how taxation-staffed politicians are criminals. | ||
| All right, but let's do drama first. | ||
| I think that what happened, Stephen, well first of all, why was he recording? | ||
| I think that's Fair question, but it doesn't need to be answered in text. | ||
| It's legal to record. | ||
| It's a one-party consent state. | ||
| So it's like saying, why is he open carrying a gun? | ||
| Because he's planning to shoot someone. | ||
| You don't know why he's got a gun. | ||
| You don't know why he's recording, and it really doesn't matter. | ||
| But recording is the action. | ||
| If he had a tape recorder when he made the phone call and didn't record, I'd say that argument is comparable. | ||
| For all I know, everyone in Texas is recording every conversation at every moment, and they have a right to do that, and maybe even a responsibility at this stage of reality. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Things you say can be taken out of context if you don't have the protection for yourself. | ||
| Secondly, I think what Steven said in this video that we're probably not going to watch all the way through, it's pretty long, or what, 20 minutes, 18 minutes, is that he's not concerned about the money, but I agree with you, Candace. | ||
| He did say, I can't do $50 million, I need $140 million, $30 million. | ||
| Something about, he said about 30 million a year is what he was looking for. | ||
| Jeremy said that, I think, at 30 million. | ||
| And then Crowder said he didn't. | ||
| He counter-offered. | ||
| He's like, I didn't sign up for the money. | ||
| So why'd you counter-offer before you said the terms weren't available? | ||
| So after they realized the money, that's not an option, we can't do 140, Stephen said, then you gotta take these demonetization negative penalties out from like, if I violate YouTube's terms, because now you're an arm of big tech, because you're making me follow YouTube's terms of service, you're basically a lapdog for YouTube. | ||
| But Crowder follows their terms of service, too. | ||
| We all do. | ||
| That's the whole point. | ||
| The first time I was on this show, it was during COVID crazy, if I remember correctly, and you said, you know, I know you have a stance on vaccines. | ||
| Let's wait until we get on to behind the paywall. | ||
| Let's be responsible. | ||
| Let's not get banned. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Let's talk about the 99 things we can and then the other stuff we can put on TimCast.com so that we can start the conversation. | ||
| Oh, you're shilling for Big Tech. | ||
| You're part of Big Con now. | ||
| No, you're all a part of Big Con because you're being smart and you don't want to get banned until we have a comfortable platform to go to. | ||
| Listen, the perfect world, we would all wish that we could do, I invest all of my time in trying to support companies and sometimes they fail and it sucks, you know what I mean? | ||
| Like I really believed in glorified banking, it crashed, you know? | ||
| I really believed in the freedom phone, that didn't work out. | ||
| We all want an alternative and we meaningfully want an alternative, we just don't have them. | ||
| We're not there yet as a conservative movement. | ||
| So while we're not there yet, we're just all going to what? | ||
| Just shoot ourselves in the foot? | ||
| And be nowhere to prove that we were a real one, right? | ||
| Ooh, it shows that you're a gangster because you got shot in your chest nine times. | ||
| If you don't get shot in your chest nine times, you're not a real gangster. | ||
| Like a real effective fighter against that is to use the momentum of Silicon Valley against itself for your favor, like jujitsu. | ||
| I don't think pushing back is the right use of energy. | ||
| It requires too much. | ||
| So you want to use these platforms to, one, get the word out about new platforms. | ||
| And two, as hosting. | ||
| Because you can host things behind... I mean, obviously they'll get banned if they violate these terms. | ||
| Whoa, hold on, hold on. | ||
| Give it to me. | ||
| We can check this. | ||
| Pulled upon Whois. | ||
| The domain for StopBigCon was registered on 12-12-2022. | ||
| Whois.com. | ||
| Stop Big Con was registered on 12-12-2022. | ||
| This is it. | ||
| The internet sleuths are gonna catch him. | ||
| Crowder announces he left the blaze and asked people to sign up for Mug Club on 12-15-2022. | ||
| Listen, I love you internet sleuths because this of course is going to happen and this is the problem is that Steven has to realize people are smart, okay? | ||
| People are smart. | ||
| They're gonna figure it out. | ||
| Oh, so you happened to register Big Con. | ||
| Yeah, let's confirm that. | ||
| Stop Big Con. | ||
| What's the website? | ||
| Yeah, I got it right here. | ||
| Is it stopbigcon.com? | ||
| Right now we are... 12-12-2022. | ||
| So this was registered... | ||
| Stop Big Con was registered before he announced he was leaving The Blaze. | ||
| Is that what it was? | ||
| Isn't that so weird? | ||
| He announced he was leaving The Blaze on 12th. | ||
| Well, look, guys, and again, Crowder will be here on Monday. | ||
| He can tell us about all of this. | ||
| And then he recorded his conversation with Jeremy two months after that? | ||
| I just want to say, like, we're in the middle, as per usual. | ||
| Candice was booked a month and a half ago, you know, and this whole drama lights up. | ||
| And then we talked with Crowder. | ||
| We asked him to come on and talk about this. | ||
| I mean, there are so many things that I disagree with The Daily Wire on. | ||
| Like, so many things. | ||
| This is just not one of them. | ||
| Like, this is just actually someone's being a bad person and plotting against them. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| That's all. | ||
| That's all this is, right? | ||
| And that's what I want to say, because like I said before, I've been on The Daily Wire for three years. | ||
| You've never heard me come out and defend them. | ||
| They're in trouble every other week with a different host for something that they said, something that they haven't said. | ||
| Ben Shapiro's under fire at least once a week on Twitter. | ||
| People are angry at him. | ||
| They think it's a show for this. | ||
| I don't weigh in on anything. | ||
| This actually, Steven Crowder's a bad person. | ||
| I was thinking, what if they just paid Steven $50 million for his back catalog and then put it on Daily Wire exclusive? | ||
| And the only way to see Steven is to go to Daily Wire. | ||
| I don't know if $50 million would be worth it, but four-year terms, all is back up. | ||
| If you had a lawyer, you could negotiate that. | ||
| What if you could go into dailywire.com and then pay $0.99 on a Crowder video to watch it for the day, and then Steven gets half the revenue? | ||
| There's so many cool things we could do that you guys could do. | ||
| It would require Stephen to just look at the term sheet and then be like, I'd rather do it this way. | ||
| Here you go. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| A conversation. | ||
| I'm interested to talk to him, Stephen, because I think he's got specific feelings and perspectives on what big tech censorship can do to a content creator that needs to be vocalized for future contract negotiations. | ||
| I've been I'm concerned about contracts, especially with, like, perpetuity clauses. | ||
| Like, we own your likeness forever, in every universe going forward. | ||
| They'll deepfake you and make you say things with deepfakes becoming so realistic. | ||
| They'll own your face and your name. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| We need to get perpetuity clauses for characters out of, for personality, out of contract. | ||
| I think so, right now. | ||
| I want to say this, like, I don't, they've always got a lot of haters. | ||
| And I can certainly understand not liking The Daily Wire or not liking certain personalities. | ||
| I know people who are like, I love Clay and I don't like Ben Shapiro. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I know people who are like, I only watch Candace. | ||
| I won't watch anybody else. | ||
| I think everyone else is bad. | ||
| And I'm like, okay. | ||
| But like... That should show that like we don't all agree on everything. | ||
| But Daily Wire Existing is a massive net positive, regardless of whether you like what they're doing or not. | ||
| Again, What Is A Woman was a massive cultural force, and that matters so much. | ||
| We talk about culture and the importance of cultural dominance so much. | ||
| That documentary reached regular people. | ||
| It was so big. | ||
| Regular people I know were like, oh, I saw that thing that was going viral, and I'm like, hey, that's good, do more of that. | ||
| I don't gotta go work for them. | ||
| Crowder doesn't have to go work for you guys, but for Jeremy or anything like that. | ||
| And that's why it's so crappy to paint a broad stroke, you know, paint with a broad stroke and say, the daily wire is this, because you're attacking Matt. | ||
| Well, it's just nothing to do with Stephen Crowder. | ||
| I have nothing to do with Stephen Crowder. | ||
| And yet you're basically making it seem like we're all plants and that we've done something wrong. | ||
| And that's deeply upsetting to me. | ||
| It's super annoying to me. | ||
| I would like to see people stop saying that company is doing thing, because it's people. | ||
| The people are doing the thing with the guise of the company attempting to protect their person, you know, their identity. | ||
| But like, no, companies don't do things. | ||
| Fair point, someone mentioned Crowder never said the Daily Wire. | ||
| Okay, but like, the shmaley shmire. | ||
| I mean, how many freaking, all of the context clues were there? | ||
| It's like, this is the crap, the acting of like, I'm not gonna say who it was, but I am gonna make sure you know that it's not The Blaze, that they have a subscription service, and that there are live ad reads, and that they could afford to put enough money on a contract that I would have a conversation. | ||
| Does your character have glasses? | ||
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Like, literally, this is such a ridiculous defense. | |
| In four seconds, you can discern that this is about The Daily Wire. | ||
| Can't be Fox News. | ||
| They don't have live ad reads. | ||
| He already told you that it's not The Blaze. | ||
| What does that leave us left with? | ||
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Didn't you say that you also recognized the contract? | |
| Fox News. | ||
| Even before he got to it. | ||
| I mean, when you say live ad reads, a subscription service, you can't be Fox News because he's already left them and talked trash with them the whole time, and they don't do live ad reads, right? | ||
| Who else could it have been? | ||
| Just give me another clue. | ||
| Who else could it have been? | ||
| PragerU, 501c3, not-for-profit, can't have been them. | ||
| Give me a person it could have been. | ||
| So that's what everybody was saying, the Daily Wire. | ||
| Yeah, it's cool. | ||
| I never said a name. | ||
| What do you think about this? | ||
| I think this was a bad move on Daily Wire's part that the contract said, if you get demonetized, there will be a fee, but Crowder's already demonetized. | ||
| They had, I told you, they had these same, this is why I'm saying this was just a conversation starter. | ||
| They had these same things that made no, literally entirely no sense in my contract. | ||
| I was, literally, I was like, okay, is this, you guys, like, a lawyer just, like, copy and pasted this from somebody else's contract? | ||
| Like, this is just a conversation starter. | ||
| Like, they just want you to see the number and go, mm, excited, and bring your lawyers in, right? | ||
| There were literally things that were saying, like, I'm not on TikTok. | ||
| They mentioned my TikTok, they mentioned my Snapchat, and I was like, okay, well, I'm not on any of these things, and I'm never planning on being on them, so we can strike this, strike this, and, you know, and then you add, and then you say, okay, this one sounds okay, can we include an extra line here? | ||
| Like, he kind of started this idea that my, Um, my social media channels are controlled, literally. | ||
| They had something about access to my Twitter, took it out. | ||
| I said, I will never, ever, ever, my Twitter is how I made my entire brand. | ||
| I will never even share a login to my Twitter, right? | ||
| My Instagram, same exact thing. | ||
| So they created a separate Instagram, which they're allowed to do, which has Candace Owens pod. | ||
| and it has its own followers, and they release stuff from the podcast. | ||
| I didn't want to sell my voice, you know, my social media things. | ||
| It would have been nice for them to have access, but it's actually better for them because then they can own that page in perpetuity. | ||
| Candice owns podcasts because I'm creating content for them so they can share clips into perpetuity of what they have paid for, right? | ||
| So it's like that's, again, he's pretending that there was something nefarious going on there. | ||
| I got the same stuff that made no sense. | ||
| You'd say, Just like he said, this makes no sense because I'm already demonetized from YouTube. | ||
| That was my circumstance for Facebook. | ||
| They had a thing about demonetization for Facebook. | ||
| My lawyer went back and said, Kansas is already demonetized on Facebook. | ||
| And they went, oh, that's right. | ||
| Strike it from the clause. | ||
| You know, for people asking, too, like, yeah, when Crowder comes on, I'm gonna let him, again, say his piece. | ||
| I'm not, you know, like, Candace is giving her perspective, working at the Daily Wire, and what... I went through the contract negotiations, so there's no way that he can pretend that there's something missing. | ||
| He didn't go through them. | ||
| He went through term sheet, don't like, $140 million, wham, wham, wham, going on to YouTube. | ||
| I went through the full five-month negotiations, so there's nothing for me to make up here. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Someone said, what if Crowder and the Daily Wire planned this for attention? | ||
| LOL. | ||
| LOL. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| I love a good conspiracy theory. | ||
| The Jeremy Boyne response video was recorded December 3rd. | ||
| I love that. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Look, look. | ||
| Again, I'll say it again. | ||
| Crowder's not here to defend himself. | ||
| You know, so, you know, Candace. | ||
| But Candace, how do you really feel? | ||
| But look man, I'll wrap up with this and we'll move on to some big worldly things with like the World Economic Forum. | ||
| Alec Baldwin, we gotta talk about Alec Baldwin. | ||
| Look, I negotiated with the Daily Wire on like, here's what happens. | ||
| You know, Jeremy comes on the show and he says, is there anything we can do together? | ||
| And he's like, I know you do a company and it's not the same as like if we went | ||
| to any other person and said, come work for us. | ||
| And I was like, there's probably something we can work out. | ||
| Look, there's a lot of stuff I don't know. | ||
| And we're trying to build this thing. | ||
| We're trying to do X, Y, and Z. | ||
| We're trying to do cultural stuff. | ||
| I know you guys are. | ||
| We talked, we went back and forth. | ||
| And I said, guys, I don't think there's anything here. | ||
| And Jeremy was like, I think you're right. | ||
| We went over numbers, we went over everything. | ||
| And the Daily Wire said, what if we did this? | ||
| And I said, it doesn't work. | ||
| It doesn't work for what we're doing, because we want to do these things. | ||
| I'm just going to come out and say this. | ||
| I try to keep private details, but I said, Jeremy, I might want to buy a billboard that says Liz Cheney is a fat pig. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| And he started laughing, and he went, well, I don't know about that. | ||
| And I'm like, look, we're crazy weirdo rogues, what we do at TimCast. | ||
| We want to be nuts. | ||
| Not crazy crazy, but we want to just be... We're not the suits. | ||
| And we're not the corporation. | ||
| But I think what you guys are making is good, because your version of the corporation is better than the Disney version of the corporation. | ||
| But I'm not the corporation either, and I want to make that very clear. | ||
| And that's what annoys me, is that people just, they have this idea of what The Daily Wire is, and then they try to say that every single host exists under this idea. | ||
| We disagree all the time. | ||
| Like there is literally, it's hard to find a moment where me and Ben Crossin agree on You know what I'm saying? | ||
| And so they paint this thing of like, there is no, like, yes, the office is very corporate. | ||
| I don't even go into the office. | ||
| There's a podcast studio that I go into that is smaller than this, that I operate within. | ||
| So it's just, it's very frustrating because people just don't understand. | ||
| Yes, he is running his business and there is a corporate side of The Daily Wire. | ||
| And it's annoying to me to have to, though, answer for people that thinking that that somehow corporatizes Candace Owens. | ||
| I've been the exact same Candace Owens from the beginning of my YouTube days to now. | ||
| But I'm not trying to imply anything about you or any of the hosts. | ||
| It's a traditional corporation. | ||
| It's got personalities of varying opinions, and us putting a 95-foot billboard of a rooster on one of the biggest Times Square billboards makes no sense as a business. | ||
| But it makes sense culturally, and it makes sense, you know, like, we want to be more shocking, and the Daily Wire wants to beat Disney at their game. | ||
| You know, we do to a certain degree, but I don't think, you know, look, I think maybe in 10 years we can have some kind of network that'll have a cultural force, that's a good thing. | ||
| I think the Daily Wire, the way it's structured, actually is set up To poach the content, to poach the executives, to poach the talent from these industries. | ||
| Of course that makes you similar in some ways, but the output is corrected. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| That's why I like The Daily Wire, you know, despite not wanting to work for The Daily Wire. | ||
| But at the end, you know, my thing with Jeremy was like, I don't think there's anything we could do transactionally, but there's a lot we can do culturally for fun. | ||
| And so we're actually working on some stuff. | ||
| And the same thing is true, like, you know, I talk to Crowder all the time about Well, I shouldn't say all the time, but periodically we talk about culture war issues, you know, what needs to be done, what we can do. | ||
| We've talked about the stuff that Ian's working on with a decentralized network. | ||
| Yeah, I got a new company, relatively new, called Inverted Technologies, and we're building, like, basically what Patreon attempted to do, or didn't quite get right, but that you basically upload, you download a packet, software packet, you load the application, you can upload videos to a server of your choice, one that you have at your house, you can upload it to Rumble, And then you can get your subs, all these people can pay 10 bucks a month, whatever you want, different tiers of payments to get access to that content. | ||
| And later as we build this out, it's going to have search algorithms where you can find other people, other content creators that are using it, and create a network where everyone owns their own stuff. | ||
| That's ultimately what it's about. | ||
| And you can't be banned. | ||
| The idea is like, your website can also have a recommended section. | ||
| of similar content and you as the website owner, so like let's say we did TimCast.com and we joined | ||
| this network, you will see in the recommended tab Steven Crowder. I could go, look I don't want, | ||
| you know, he's a competitor and I don't like his opinion, so I'm going to say on my website he | ||
| can't appear, but he's not banned from the network, just my personal site. | ||
| So basically you create a decentralized... That's awesome. | ||
| The idea would be you launch, you buy your own server time, space, or you make your own server, you buy your own domain, and then you download the package, install it on your server, and you instantly have your own Patreon. | ||
| That connects to the network of all the other people using it for recommendation reasons, because the recommendation is the real driver of so much of people. | ||
| If you make good content, and you make a lot of it, and it rises to the top, People will see it, and that's the machine that needs to happen. | ||
| But when YouTube bans you outright, you're gone from the grid. | ||
| When they shadow ban you, you're gone from the grid. | ||
| This way, you can't do it. | ||
| Anyway, I've talked about stuff like that, and I want to see him succeed. | ||
| I would prefer that, you know, the conflict, the arguing or whatever wasn't happening. | ||
| But look, I talked to Steven. | ||
| I genuinely believe that he thinks Daily Wire is a net negative in the space. | ||
| I don't think he's doing this for money. | ||
| You're entitled to your opinion. | ||
| I understand your perspective. | ||
| I've talked to him about it and he said that, you know, these kinds of contracts are... I'll paraphrase my understanding. | ||
| The old guard system created the problems. | ||
| Whatever we're building has to be new and it has to be different, it has to be better. | ||
| And it's funny because when I do deals with people, I joke that I'm a communist and that's why they're getting such good terms. | ||
| When I talk with Jeremy Boring, I'm like, this guy's a businessman who's trying to make sure no one can stab him in the back. | ||
| The fact is I think Steven Crowder doesn't know this because he hasn't started a business but I've been stabbed in the back like 73 times and it sucks every time and I lose money every time and my safety is threatened every time but you know like I jokingly say I'm a communist so blah blah blah I'm not literally but what I'm trying to convey by that is I'm still willing to over-extend myself if it means We're gonna get better people, and that's the system I'm gonna build. | ||
| I don't fault The Daily Wire for running their business the way businesses run. | ||
| I like the content The Daily Wire produces. | ||
| I just won't be there when they produce it. | ||
| Wonderful. | ||
| You're a free market capitalist. | ||
| Your idea is that if you believe that you have something better, or you can do something better, you create the something better. | ||
| And you take out the old guys. | ||
| Is that a foreign concept? | ||
| Has this become a foreign concept? | ||
| Do we have to all be so nasty? | ||
| To me, I just don't get it because I've never, since I've gotten into politics, I've never understood the mentality that you need to step on someone's head to go where. | ||
| Like, oh, I just need to step on this person's head so that I can move upstream. | ||
| It's like, why don't you learn to swim if you want to go upstream? | ||
| Why don't you learn to swim and tread some water if you want to go upstream? | ||
| What is this? | ||
| For a little bit of, ooh, I'm going to burn friendships, you keep calling them your friend. | ||
| It doesn't make any sense to me. | ||
| I'll say my final thought on this, I suppose. | ||
| And then again, Crowder will be here on Monday. | ||
| We'll have a conversation from his perspective. | ||
| Yo, if you're gonna stop anybody, I don't understand why going after The Daily Wire is the first target. | ||
| Even if The Daily Wire was doing these really awful contracts, or I should say, they're doing term sheets, they're doing contracting in ways you don't like, I still think it's like, well, okay, well at least they made What Is A Woman. | ||
| Let's focus on Disney and Netflix. | ||
| Netflix has done a bunch of pedo stuff, you know what I mean? | ||
| Daily Wire is just not a concern for me. | ||
| If I was going to come out and be like, 49% of the business dealings with Daily Wire I don't like, but 51% is good, then I'd be like, I'll take that 1% and I'll focus on Netflix doing weird pedo crap. | ||
| But I actually think The Daily Wire is much better than that. | ||
| I just, it's not my kind of business style. | ||
| So, you know, I hope Crowder just does his thing and succeeds. | ||
| And I think it's simple. | ||
| You know, if it were me, and I really did see The Daily Wire as a net negative, I'll put it this way. | ||
| I mean, I talk about Disney all the time. | ||
| I say, I don't expect you to abandon your Disney subscriptions because they have flubber. | ||
| They have movies you know and love. | ||
| I just hope to build a better website that eventually produces enough to where you say, I'd rather not have Disney. | ||
| That's my strategy. | ||
| But again, guys, I'm the milquetoast fence setter. | ||
| I'm the reformer, not a revolutionary. | ||
| I'm not going to come out, smash a bottle on the ground and be like, I will stand for nothing. | ||
| I'm going to sit here and I'm going to do the math. | ||
| I'm going to go, Daily Wire's doing pretty good. | ||
| I might not like that, but that's good for us. | ||
| Where's our net problem? | ||
| I'm much more slow-paced in calculating than that. | ||
| I think if the Daily Wire succeeds, we all succeed. | ||
| And then, when Disney's gone, when Netflix is gone, when Amazon Prime is gone, assuming, and the Daily Wire's the only one, then we can start saying, Daily Wire, you do better deals with your employees. | ||
| And then the Daily Wire's going to be like, You know, either do it or don't. | ||
| My take is I'm glad the conversation's happening. | ||
| I think that Jeremy and Steven have seen each other as friends is important, because sometimes it's easiest to criticize your friends. | ||
| It's easier to criticize your friends than people that might go sue you and don't have any connection to you at all. | ||
| And that Daily Wire is gaining a lot of steam and becoming larger and larger. | ||
| So if there really are problems with the contracts or the terms off the bat, it's important that they know that right away from people with, you know, large levels of influence. | ||
| I can't get over Steven Crowder having his $50 million pay docked for getting banned if he does too much racism when he's being hired by the Daily Wire to do blackface and every other flavor of bigotry. | ||
| Hassan's obviously joking. | ||
| I thought it was a really, really funny tweet. | ||
| I think it's funny. | ||
| I'm getting hired to do blackface. | ||
| And then Seth Dillon of the Babylon Bee. | ||
| He won the day. | ||
| I love Seth. | ||
| I love Seth. | ||
| He said, I didn't want to make this video. | ||
| I wanted to take a nap, but my hand was forced. | ||
| And then he makes this video where he was like, the Daily Wire thought Steven Crowder was talking about them. | ||
| How cute. | ||
| It was really, really funny. | ||
| So shout out. | ||
| I thought those were funny. | ||
| But let's talk about Alec Baldwin. | ||
| So we're going to revisit the Crowder stuff, obviously, because we have 50 billion super chats about it. | ||
| And I just want to let everyone know that YouTube YouTube deletes the superchats after a certain amount of money, so we can only go back to like, there's a bunch. | ||
| But I'll read them. | ||
| And the current poll says, who is right, Candace? | ||
| I'm sorry, who is right, Crowder or DW? | ||
| 74% say Crowder, 26% say Daily Wire. | ||
| But let's talk about Alec Baldwin. | ||
| We have this story from Vanity Fair. | ||
| Let me just say at the start of this segment, ladies and gentlemen, I believe I called it! | ||
| And I had people telling me I was crazy and telling me I was wrong. | ||
| He's going to be charged with involuntary manslaughter, so is the armorer. | ||
| Another guy, the assistant director I think, took a plea bargain, plea deal for negligent discharge of a firearm. | ||
| But let me tell you why I said I called it. | ||
| There's a very important part in this story. | ||
| Vanity Fair says, In addition to the bullet that killed Hutchins, Alec Baldwin, as you know, was on the set of a movie called Rust. | ||
| He was using a real gun in the filming, aimed it at the cinematographer during filming, pulled the hammer back, pulled the trigger, shooting her in the chest, penetrating her body and hitting another guy in the shoulder. | ||
| Everybody was arguing whether it was an accident, how could the bullet have gotten the gun. | ||
| I made the argument that we had learned. | ||
| Alec Baldwin was in a dispute. | ||
| I should say, the execs of the movie production, the higher-ups, which includes Alec Baldwin, were in dispute with the crew. | ||
| The crew was threatening to walk off set. | ||
| There was animosity. | ||
| Alec Baldwin said he was friends with her, then he said they weren't friends, they didn't know each other. | ||
| He had a dinner with her, sounded like they were friends, or was it negotiations? | ||
| He also said in an interview that she was very forceful, I can't remember the word he used, and she kept telling him to do things over and over again. | ||
| It sounded like he was venting frustrations. | ||
| About Helena? | ||
| About Helena. | ||
| Oh, I didn't know that. | ||
| Right, and so I said, that sounds to me like motive. | ||
| Motive, what is it? | ||
| Your crew is threatening to walk off set, costing you money, and Helena Hutchins was doing what cinematographers aren't supposed to do, giving you direction. | ||
| That he seemed annoyed by, my personal opinion, but it's something he expressed. | ||
| Opportunity. | ||
| He had a gun, a real gun, that was supposed to be pointed, not at a human being. | ||
| This is against the rules in any movie set, you never point a gun at a person no matter what. | ||
| This is against the rules. | ||
| Ever. | ||
| Always. | ||
| In shooting. | ||
| Unless you're intending to destroy it. | ||
| Howard Baldwin lied and said he never pulled the trigger. | ||
| It just went off. | ||
| That's impossible. | ||
| It was a single action revolver. | ||
| Hammer has to be pulled back. | ||
| Trigger has to be pulled. | ||
| Get this. | ||
| Vanity Fair reports, in addition to the bullet that killed Hutchins, investigators found five | ||
| additional live rounds of ammunition mingled among the movie's props and costumes. | ||
| Two loose .45 caliber bullets were discovered on top of a prop cart. | ||
| A third was in a bandolier worn by Jensen Ackles. | ||
| A fourth was in a gun belt worn by Baldwin. | ||
| And a fifth was found in a box of dummy ammo. | ||
| Entirely possible. | ||
| With Gutierrez-Reid's fingerprints on it, they say. | ||
| It's entirely possible someone mistook the live ammo that was lying around for dummies, put them in the box, Hannah Gutierrez-Reid pulled the dummy rounds out of the box, didn't realize, loaded the gun, and that's what happened. | ||
| Entirely possible. | ||
| But when you factor all these things together, Alec Baldwin had live ammo on his belt, had the gun, pointed it at her, and shot and killed her. | ||
| I don't understand how anybody would argue that it's more likely it was an accident when it's like, he was mad at her because of the crew walk-offs, potentially, he pointed the gun at her, He shot her, and he had live ammo on his person. | ||
| So it's like, if we were going to ask someone, Occam's Razor, in the absence of evidence, the solution that makes the least amount of assumptions tends to be the correct one. | ||
| How did the bullets get in the gun? | ||
| Well, you see what happened was, somebody was doing target practice with the gun, and they left bullets outside. | ||
| One day, a crew member was cleaning up the bullets and didn't realize they were alive, so they put them back in the box. | ||
| The box was then placed in the cabinet, Hannah Goodyear is not realizing this, grabbed the box, opened it up, pulled the bolts out, put them in the gun, handed it to the AD, who didn't check it, and then handed it to Alec Baldwin, who didn't check it, and then it went off on accident. | ||
| Or, Alec Baldwin didn't like the lady, took a bullet from his own belt that had bullets in it, and shot her. | ||
| Which one is the conspiracy theory and which one is the simple solution? | ||
| Sorry man, I just... he had a bullet on his belt. | ||
| Okay, that's... there were live bullets found all over the place or like five of them | ||
| makes me... gives me some reasonable doubt that maybe he didn't know what was... he wasn't the | ||
| one that was ring leading this, that someone went in there. | ||
| And also, I do agree that he didn't like Helena Hutchins. I think... | ||
| I felt like she was probably playing the alpha role and he felt emasculated. | ||
| He's like, I'm supposed to. | ||
| But she was treating him like an actor. | ||
| You're doing what I say. | ||
| Get this done. | ||
| We're doing the shot. | ||
| He's like, I'm the producer. | ||
| I'm in charge. | ||
| So he was like, bang, bang, you're dead. | ||
| Like a perpetual child. | ||
| Bang, bang. | ||
| Yeah, like playing cowboys and Indians when he was a little kid. | ||
| Yeah, bang! | ||
| And he's like just fantasizing about killing her and it turned out there someone had loaded his gun | ||
| Yeah, I mean I want to be clear. He's not being tried for murder. He's being tried for manslaughter | ||
| So that they they have felt that after examining the evidence that he did this by accident | ||
| And what you're alleging is that maybe it wasn't so much of an accident and he actually didn't like her | ||
| I can't get over the fact we pointed the gun at a human being so important to say | ||
| This is not a rule on set This is a rule always and maybe in New York City where | ||
| people don't know anything about guns He knows things a thing or two about guns. He's been in | ||
| plenty of movies It's I mean, it doesn't really nothing | ||
| No I cannot go over the fact that he did not know that you | ||
| should never under any Circumstances unless you are actually actively trying to | ||
| kill a human that walked in, you know broke into your homes attacking your children | ||
| Do you ever point a gun whether it is loaded or completely empty at a human being ever? | ||
| Ever. | ||
| Literally, if you're walking through the forest and you're about to go on a hunt, you never, ever, not even in joke, in jest, ever, are supposed to even put... You're supposed to keep it down at all times, right? | ||
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Yeah, treat every firearm like it's loaded. | |
| That is just a known rule. | ||
| I even point imaginary guns down when I'm pretending to be a guy with a gun. | ||
| Yeah, he knew that. | ||
| There's just no way that he didn't know that. | ||
| But look what the media said. | ||
| The media ran to his defense. | ||
| They were saying that... He is the media. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They came out and they were like, this is a horrible, tragic accident, and they didn't bother asking any questions. | ||
| They didn't bother investigating. | ||
| And if we had a fair media from the get-go, the first thing that should have happened is there was fighting on the set. | ||
| Alec Baldwin was unhappy, extremely frustrated. | ||
| He is known for having a temper. | ||
| He's crazy. | ||
| He's known for striking people. | ||
| Screaming at his own daughter called like a fat pig and like he's crazy. | ||
| This man is obviously unhinged. | ||
| He's completely and utterly unhinged There's no question, but it doesn't matter actually in Hollywood if you're unhinged the better right Chrissy Teigen Alec. | ||
| Well, these people have told you a thousand times that they are mentally unstable angry people and yet the media goes He's funny. | ||
| Let's put him in sentence. | ||
| They celebrate him. | ||
| They prop them up all the time, especially the more crazier that they are, the more the media loves them, which is actually a perfect representation. | ||
| He was also very outspoken against gun rights activists and now here he is in this particular situation. | ||
| I don't know what happened here. | ||
| A lot of people are speculating. | ||
| Let's see what's going to happen through this court case. | ||
| Obviously, if this happened to a random Joe Schmo, there would have been charges a lot quicker. | ||
| The fact that there wasn't charges and the fact that there was so long, so much time in between this is a little fishy, but let's see what happens in the court of law. | ||
| Let's see what happens with the evidence. | ||
| Let's see who changed their story, who tried to cover something up because there's multiple stories, there's multiple things. | ||
| We don't know what happened. | ||
| Let's wait and see. | ||
| Are there more charges or is this the only charge? | ||
| There's two charges the jury can choose from. | ||
| One is five years in prison mandatory. | ||
| And I think he gets it. | ||
| Check this out. | ||
| He should get it. | ||
| They say, the first charge is simple involuntary manslaughter. | ||
| For this to be proved, there must be underlying negligence. | ||
| Under New Mexico law, involuntary manslaughter is a fourth-degree felony punishable by up to 18 months in jail and a $5,000 fine. | ||
| It includes the misdemeanor charge of negligent use of a firearm. | ||
| Seems like a slap on the wrist. | ||
| The other charge is involuntary manslaughter in the commission of a lawful act. | ||
| This charge requires proof that there was more than simple negligence involved in the death. | ||
| It's also a 4th degree felony punishable by up to 18 months in jail and a $5,000 fine. | ||
| However, this charge includes a firearm enhancement or added mandatory penalty because a firearm was involved. | ||
| The firearm enhancement makes the crime punishable by a mandatory 5 years in jail. | ||
| Based on the official narrative, Alec Baldwin should get the mandatory minimum. | ||
| I'm not a fan of mandatory minimums and I don't think justice will be served necessarily by sending Alec Baldwin to prison for 5 years, but based on the laws it stands, I'll tell you why I think he should go to jail for 5 years. | ||
| Negligence. | ||
| He was running the show. | ||
| He was the producer. | ||
| They were using the gun from the movie to shoot real bullets. | ||
| They knew there were negligent discharges on set. | ||
| That is... That says to me... | ||
| That they say it requires more than simple negligence. | ||
| Simple negligence, in my opinion, and maybe it's a legal term, so maybe I'm wrong, but my opinion on this is, if someone, unbeknownst to Alec Baldwin, was using live bullets, I'd say, look, Alec, he should have known where that gun was at all times, someone should have been in charge, so maybe it's not his fault that this happened. | ||
| But he knew there were negligent discharges. | ||
| Now it's not just simple negligence. | ||
| Now it's him being like, there's something more there. | ||
| You mean that, and I think you're saying that, prior to that negligent discharge, there were previous negligent discharges on set. | ||
| So he knew that there were some mistakes happening. | ||
| And you would think that after the first mistake, and you go, oh great, nobody died. | ||
| You would go, let's make sure that we button this up, as I am the producer of this, we need to button this up. | ||
| And again, I cannot say a thousand times over, if you're Trying to present the case for the prosecution here You're just going to say how many times has Alex been in a movie where there have been guns fired? | ||
| He knows this protocol He knows that you do not point a gun whether it is loaded or not at another human being not only point pointing would be negligent By the way, if he had hit her and it was a fake round, he would be negligent forget I mean pointing it is you just you just don't pull the trigger and point it and then pull the trigger and the last thing I want to say is that I think that in terms of the publicity surrounding this if he had instantly come out and said this is we are We feel so horrified. | ||
| We are so sorry. | ||
| I'm just devastated by this. | ||
| I'm just going away forever. | ||
| He has acted the part of such arrogance. | ||
| Anytime anybody asked a question, he was angry. | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| I'm Alec Baldwin. | ||
| The way that he has acted after this, as if he's done nothing wrong. | ||
| I mean, the first thing that his statement he rushes to make after these charges is total and complete miscarriage of justice. | ||
| It is this pompous nature that is really, for me, the nail in the coffin, and if I'm on that jury, I am moving to convict. | ||
| This is why I think, honestly, I don't know if I would, but let me say this. | ||
| The reason I say the five years in prison, just to elaborate, he knew there were negligent discharges. | ||
| Now you can argue, well, but it was simple negligence that he didn't correct that mistake, that he didn't lock things down. | ||
| That's what negligence is. | ||
| Uh-huh, yes. | ||
| Then he picked the gun up, pointed at her, and pulled the trigger. | ||
| So you want to talk about simple negligence, it would be The producer on set, not Alec Baldwin, who knew there were discharges and did nothing to correct that problem, he's responsible. | ||
| Oh, he pleaded. | ||
| He took a plea bargain for a negligent destructive weapon. | ||
| Alec Baldwin knew there was live ammo on set, had live ammo on his person, decided to take the gun knowing this, pointed at a woman, and pull the trigger. | ||
| Now, come on. | ||
| I would actually argue murder. | ||
| Passion, homicide, lower degree. | ||
| But we don't have it, right? | ||
| At the very least. | ||
| At the very least, you have to move to convict on the charges, and I can't see how a jury outside of being an Alec Baldwin fan does not actually move to convict him. | ||
| Actually, I'm going to change what I just said. | ||
| I want to clarify. | ||
| I think you're right. | ||
| If I was in the jury, and they said, you know, mandatory five years in jail, I might nullify that, but agree with him being charged. | ||
| I don't like mandatory minimums. | ||
| I don't think justice is served by sending them to prison for five years. | ||
| Like a year, like five years is not going to change what happened. | ||
| It's not going to change Alec Baldwin. | ||
| I think it would change Alec Baldwin. | ||
| Well, you're right. | ||
| It would change him. | ||
| I just don't think it would actually, like... He's a very angry, erratic, unstable man. | ||
| And I think some time alone in a cell with another big guy... The five years is a really long time. | ||
| They got yoga. | ||
| They probably put him in a nice prison. | ||
| I think that, yeah, it's a long enough time that it could change him. | ||
| Well, a lot of celebrities are just totally out of touch. | ||
| A lot of them are egomaniacs. | ||
| A lot of them are just sociopaths. | ||
| And as soon as this happened, he tried to, of course, put blame on anyone else but him. | ||
| The first thing he said is, quote, someone is responsible, but I know it is not me. | ||
| Yeah, that's a horrible thing. | ||
| Imagine you're this family. | ||
| This is somebody's mother. | ||
| I mean, think about this. | ||
| It's horrible. | ||
| The emotional trauma of this guy basically being like, I know he's going to prison, but we know it ain't me. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And then talking about this, he kind of alluded that he's the second victim here out of All of this, especially with some of the statements that he was making afterwards, which is absolutely just delusional, which shows you this kind of out-of-touch reality perspective that a lot of these very powerful people that are empowered by this seedy, I would even say satanic entertainment industry, the people that prop up are some of the worst human beings on the face of this earth, and sometimes they do deserve a big reality check, and I think this is maybe, but they're so far in the weeds, maybe could provide that. | ||
| Speaking of some of the worst human beings on the earth, we have this story about Al Gore. | ||
| Fox News says, Al Gore mocked as a clown for Davos rant on rainbombs, boiling oceans, and apocalyptic preacher. | ||
| Jimmy Filo reacts to Gore's climate warnings on Fox & Friends. | ||
| So, you guys see this? | ||
| When Al Gore basically goes off saying that it was a really unhinged rant. | ||
| I mean, bro, look. | ||
| I criticized Alex Jones a while, several years ago, because he went on, it was an old thing, I remember seeing him on C-SPAN or something, and they were like, ah, it's Alex Jones. | ||
| And then he immediately just turns to the camera and goes, people listen, they're coming for you! | ||
| And I'm like, but I'm like, when I show that to my mom, they immediately just be like, this guy's nuts. | ||
| It's like, so you gotta take the opportunity and approach people on their own terms. | ||
| On his own show, I think he's great when he goes off. | ||
| Al Gore, wanting to warn people of a billion climate refugees, going, the world's gonna end, it's gonna be raining bombs, the oceans are gonna boil and our homes are gonna sink! | ||
| I'm like, okay, crazy man, you know, calm down, go to sleep, let the adults talk. | ||
| What he says is, if there's a billion migrants all of a sudden, that chaos will ensue. | ||
| And he's right. | ||
| But what he's saying is that there will be a billion migrants. | ||
| So that's the thing where, like, I mean, what's the evidence, Al? | ||
| You said 20 years ago that, what, the world was ending in 10? | ||
| No, no, he said the ice caps are going to be melting by 2030 or something. | ||
| Yeah, and they should be, because we're exiting an ice age. | ||
| So the American population is going to decline. | ||
| It's actually gone up since he made these predictions. | ||
| We're still in an ice age, according to, I think it's Utah State. | ||
| People, because of the flood 13,000 years ago, 12,000, when the meteors impacted North America and this giant global flood, it looks like we're not in an ice age because the ice melted, but we're still in the ice age, just having this preliminary amount of it melted. | ||
| It's all gonna melt. | ||
| It's supposed to. | ||
| That's why the Earth is pouring iron into itself through the River of Blood in Antarctica. | ||
| It's getting ready to fertilize for all this new freshwater that's coming into it. | ||
| And we're pulling carbon out of the air. | ||
| Dude, we got the graphene revolution on the horizon. | ||
| This weirdo is like shaking about too much horse poop on the ground in 1900. | ||
| And there are a lot of solutions to a lot of the larger ecological and pollution problems that the world is dealing with, except for the real solutions are just being pushed away. | ||
| No one's really talking about those issues. | ||
| But when it comes to taxing people, regulating people, controlling their life, micromanaging every aspect of them, putting them in little Echo-friendly, sustainable neighborhoods that you can't leave and you can only walk and bike around 15 minutes anywhere in one direction. | ||
| When it comes to that, yeah, they love that. | ||
| And when it comes to Al Gore, he said in 2009 that the North Pole would be ice-free in the summer of 2013. | ||
| I don't think that happened there, buddy. | ||
| I think you were a little bit wrong. | ||
| This guy's a grifter, this guy's a shill, and it's important to note here, he made $330 million off of his green investment firm ever since losing to George W. Bush. | ||
| There's a lot of money in this grift, there's a lot of money in fear-mongering, and he knows this grift is being exposed, so he has to step it up. | ||
| He has to make this emotional trauma, this larger sign-up, as crazy as they can, so then Deutsche Bank, Bank of America, that were at Davos, They were also talking at the same time during this conference about, you know, we need to do all of our business based on carbon emissions. | ||
| We need to reboot capitalism. | ||
| We need a social credit score based on carbon. | ||
| We need to make sure everyone is reporting their own personal carbon. | ||
| This is nothing to do with the environment. | ||
| This is everything to do with the subjugation of the human race. | ||
| And it's plain as day. | ||
| Big money, big interest, big power trying to control you. | ||
| Sorry, Tammy, you had something to say. | ||
| I was going to say that what the left will come out and do is they'll say, no, no, no, no, Al Gore was right 20 years ago when he said it would be, you know, ice free by 2013. | ||
| But then we took action on climate change and it stopped it from happening. | ||
| That actually proves Al Gore was right the whole time. | ||
| I mean, I just would like to shout out, I do not know this person at all, but a book, | ||
| if you have a child that you want to make aware of the climate scam, which you are absolutely | ||
| correct about this subjugation of humanity, such an easy book, very short read. | ||
| It's called Inconvenient Facts and it's written by Gregory Whitestone and it will wake you | ||
| to the fact that the IPCC is just a corrupt industry. | ||
| Every single model that they ever have put out is wrong and they rely on people not understanding | ||
| just how old the earth is and that it goes through coldness. | ||
| I mean, there was a medieval warming period, followed by a freeze. | ||
| I mean, they're trying to actually make you think that weather is something to be fearful | ||
| of and that these things don't naturally happen, like forest fires. | ||
| They just naturally happen. | ||
| They've always happened since the beginning of time. | ||
| Things get hot. | ||
| I just came back from South Africa while we were there. | ||
| Just temperature hits in Africa, the bush burns. | ||
| And it's a good thing that it burns. | ||
| And so people, they rely on the ignorance of people that are widely emotional, which is why they start this sort of brainwash when you are in high school, when you are in middle school. | ||
| There's always a different scare and they've been wrong every time. | ||
| So if you still believe that there are some element of truth to this, just go talk to people in different generations and tell them what their big scare was. | ||
| I was Generation Global Warming. | ||
| We still had to watch a sad movie of polar bears drowning, and we're told that there were gonna be no polar bears left. | ||
| In fact, polar bear population has gone up since inconvenient facts. | ||
| Generation before us, they were told the exact opposite, that it was gonna be global cooling, they were all going to freeze to death, and then they were like, oh, got that one wrong, so we're gonna change to global warming. | ||
| There was the ozone layer. | ||
| Remember the hole in the ozone layer? | ||
| We were all gonna die, and then, oops, whoopsies, that didn't happen. | ||
| There was acid rain scare, where kids were taught that the oceans were gonna become so acidic, and it was gonna rain from the sky, and now it looks like, guys, it's promising. | ||
| moving on to rainbombs. | ||
| Can't bundle up and buy a good umbrella? | ||
| I'm going to start selling umbrellas. | ||
| Rainbomb umbrellas. | ||
| To be fair on the ozone thing, we literally did ban the CFCs or whatever. | ||
| So the ozone thing... | ||
| Fluorocarbons. | ||
| Yeah, the ozone thing was like, hey, if we keep using these, what is it, PFCs? | ||
| PFC, polyfluorocarbon, I think. | ||
| It was all in the deodorants and hairsprays and then they were banned. | ||
| That's a nuanced argument to understand that, but they've been trying to use this kind of fear-mongering environmental grift since the 50s. | ||
| And it's all about saying we need policies, we need the Paris Accord Agreement. | ||
| What we need to fix these things, if you're really scared, is more of your money. | ||
| Yeah, I was gonna say, Candice, but you don't understand. | ||
| If we give the government more money, the weather will be gooder. | ||
| Yeah, the weather will be gooder. | ||
| That's the basic principle that they work on, because there are actual things that we should address when it comes to this climate, when it comes to our environment, when it comes to pollution, especially when it comes from the developing world, especially when it comes from China dumping all of the plastic that Canada shipped to them. | ||
| There's also a lot of waste, a lot of destruction because of war. | ||
| And there's so much hypocrisy at the World Economic Forum, not Not just them flying on their private jets with record emissions, record number of jets, estimated 1,100 jets flying in there, but these are the same individuals that almost in the same breath are like, we need to make sure that there's not a peace deal with Ukraine and Russia. | ||
| That's what the UN Secretary said. | ||
| at Davos this year. | ||
| And in the same breath, they're like, but we need to make sure the environment's good. | ||
| One of the biggest polluters is, of course, the military-industrial complex. | ||
| And they're cheering it on. | ||
| They're calling for more war. | ||
| They're trying to deny every kind of peace deal. | ||
| They're trying to prolong it. | ||
| And this is the worst thing that you could possibly be doing. | ||
| Well, that's because they need more money. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| They need the grip to keep going. | ||
| It's all about money. | ||
| Everything is always about money. | ||
| And it's the same people destroying the environment that are coming to you saying, just give us more money and we'll fix the environment. | ||
| In reality, those solutions do not work and create more problems. | ||
| And they fly private when they talk about it. | ||
| It's very important to get on your private jet to discuss Ukraine and also climate and everything doesn't make sense when it's put together. | ||
| It doesn't matter because you don't pay attention because you're supposed to be ignorant and not realize that literally all they want is money. | ||
| They will launch a new war and ruin the climate at the same time they're telling you that you've got to give them more money so they can save the climate. | ||
| I mean, it's stunning to me. | ||
| And people that get behind these initiatives over and over and over again, if you're really trying to discern what Big Con is, go find the people that back the military-industrial complex. | ||
| Go find the people that put a little Ukraine flag and told you that this was your duty to go out and defend Ukraine, to ask no questions about President Zelensky, who shut down that speech. | ||
| I find that to be absolutely ridiculous. | ||
| I've got to give a shout out to D.C. | ||
| Drano who called Kevin McCarthy Kievan you Karthi. | ||
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| I mean, I that to me if you want a marker of what real big con is go find out who supports Ukraine and to this day is | ||
| still back in Ukraine from day one. | ||
| I was like, this is so obviously the military industrial complex. | ||
| This makes no sense. | ||
| We know it's a corrupt country. | ||
| We know that it washes laundry. | ||
| Take it from the New York Times and Washington Post five years ago and they highlighted all of his ties to oligarchs. | ||
| We installed a new government and we intentionally went to war because they launder our money and of course Hunter Biden and president, we hopped in Afghanistan to get everybody home. | ||
| Takes one breath, tomorrow we're going to be in Ukraine. | ||
| I mean it's such obvious foolishness at this point and that there are people that are in our movement pretending that they're whether America first or if they care about you know what's happening to this country and then they support Ukraine. | ||
| Like goodbye dude, goodbye. | ||
| How do you support this? | ||
| And then there's FTX, right, that was working with the World Economic Forum, that was working with the Bank of Ukraine, that was laundering money, not only to, of course, high-level Democrats, but also Republicans. | ||
| All those politicians right now give back the people's money. | ||
| I don't understand why our justice system is not intervening in the FTX scandal and saying, hey, Mr. Biden or Mr. Crenshaw or Mr. whoever, you got this money. | ||
| This money was actually stolen from clients. | ||
| Let's make sure we give it back. | ||
| Why can't we have that conversation right now? | ||
| Well, I don't know if Crenshaw actually got the money. | ||
| I'm just naming a politician here. | ||
| So I don't know if it's Liz Cheney. | ||
| I don't know who it is. | ||
| But there was a fair amount of money, mostly given to Democrats, some to Republicans as well. | ||
| Whoever got that money, it was all through shadowy secret kind of black money that was given through different PACs and different organizations in order to kind of launder it specifically. | ||
| But there should be a national conversation right now being like, hey, people were robbed. | ||
| Let's give their money back right now. | ||
| That money is in the hands of corrupted politicians right now that were doing the bidding of corrupted organizations like FTX that the World Economic Forum endorsed and then deleted their endorsement of and tried to hit it away from the internet as they were promoting this larger Ponzi scam that stole people's money, which is absolutely insane. | ||
| I would advocate letting Sam Beckman Freed go free if he can pay back the $10 billion, and I know he can. | ||
| If you let him go free, they'll kill him. | ||
| Have you been following how many crypto billionaires are just kind of being killed? | ||
| He's a drugged-up puppet. | ||
| It's just insane. | ||
| I mean, it's insane. | ||
| They're dropping like flies. | ||
| I covered it on my show. | ||
| I mean, the mysterious death of all of these crypto billionaires and millionaires. | ||
| What about that guy who tweeted, like, they're running an entire money laundering thing in Puerto Rico, right off of Epstein Island 2.0. | ||
| It's a pedophile ring, blah, blah, blah, blah, and he said, and they're going to kill me. | ||
| Four hours later, found in the ocean with full clothes on in his wallet. | ||
| Guess he just went for a swim and ended up with a bullet in the back of his head. | ||
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| That's my suicide? | ||
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| I covered it all on my show. | ||
| And he literally said, they're going to kill me. | ||
| And it's always the same. | ||
| It's a mysterious drowning. | ||
| In Puerto Rico. | ||
| He was in the Caribbean when this happened. | ||
| Four hours later, after his last tweet, he was dead. | ||
| And he's one of five, I think five or six billionaires that have died in the last two years under these unbelievably mysterious circumstances. | ||
| I mean, if you haven't listened to that episode of my show, just to kind of shout myself out, it's actually the most popular episode that I've released recently. | ||
| It's called The Mysterious Death of Crypto Billionaires. | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| And that is what we should be talking about. | ||
| There's something very dangerous going on, and to your credit, way more important than anything we're talking about with Steven Crowder. | ||
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| It's everywhere. | ||
| Let's jump to the story from timcast.com. | ||
| European Commission VP says US will soon impose hate speech laws. | ||
| And it seems like a simple statement, and it's easy to shrug off, but going to the bigger context in the previous segment, we're talking about these evil people, their plans. | ||
| You got Brian Stelter. | ||
| Sitting on stage with these people and they say, soon the U.S. | ||
| will have, you know, will make hate speech illegal. | ||
| To them hate speech is opinions they disagree with. | ||
| Hate speech is disinformation. | ||
| And what's happening is are these Davos elite types are infiltrating big tech. | ||
| They're infiltrating elements of the government. | ||
| And they're imposing these insane rules, not through law, I don't necessarily know if anytime soon they'll make it illegal. | ||
| They'll make it impossible. | ||
| Said a bad word, as everybody knows, your car won't start. | ||
| You can't buy, your credit card gets turned off. | ||
| We've already seen it happen. | ||
| How many people have been debanked? | ||
| Bad opinions? | ||
| No more bank for you. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| Yeah, so these are the people who are meeting in these big meetings. | ||
| They're bringing people like Brian Stelter. | ||
| They're bringing Democrat politicians to sit down and say they want to control what you see, think, and hear. | ||
| Joe Manchin was at Davos making arguments against the open press. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Like, what's wrong with the freaking open press? | ||
| Tony Blair was openly talking about, we need an international vaccine passport system where we track people's medical records and allow them to go places and not places. | ||
| Where we track their heart attacks that they're having. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I could say a lot more. | ||
| There was also another member of a big tech company talking about how he welcomes the FBI involvement with specifically Cloudflare. | ||
| The CEO of Cloudflare came out and says that he welcomes guidance from the FBI. | ||
| So there's a reason why the FBI director also attends Davos as well. | ||
| there's a reason why they have a lot of public meetings, but they also have a lot of secret | ||
| meetings as well. And obviously one hand, what's the saying here? One hand washes the other hand | ||
| And there's a collective interest here of a lot of these powerful power brokers essentially just saying, you know, you help me, I help you, but we're going to make sure that we come out on top when we get to essentially take all of people's liberties and financial freedoms away from them. | ||
| And that's the game here. | ||
| That's the con here. | ||
| It's clear as day. | ||
| And they're using these kind of bland, generalized language to get away with it. | ||
| Well, the reason they get away with it, more importantly, though, and this is why the most important conversation when people say, what do we do to correct it? | ||
| It's the education battle. | ||
| Because the reason is because we're producing too many stupid people. | ||
| right? Who cannot think through these policies. And this is when you go, what is happening on | ||
| college campuses? Why are we having debates about why are there gender studies majors? | ||
| This is a true fact. We've never put, we've never given out more degrees in America ever, | ||
| and yet we've never produced dumber kids. I mean, literally dumber kids. I'm talking about if you | ||
| sat them down with an IQ test, these kids are actually dumb. | ||
| So how is that possible? That should run in conflict with one another. How are we giving | ||
| the most degrees and producing the dumbest Because it's a concert effort by the government because they understand you want to talk about real slavery. | ||
| Slaves, I wrote this in my book, another free pitch for myself, Blackout. | ||
| I wrote this in my book, but my thesis is that what they're basically doing is modernizing the slave plantation. | ||
| Right? | ||
| You can't now take people into chains, but what was one element of a slave plantation? | ||
| Well, it was that slaves weren't allowed to learn how to read. | ||
| These were called slave clothes. | ||
| So what better way than to make people think that they're learning how to read, but they're learning nothing. | ||
| They're learning, be scared the planet's gonna be dead in 10 years. | ||
| Men can be women, women can be men. | ||
| I have a degree! | ||
| I'm so smart! | ||
| So they come out super arrogant, convinced they know everything, and they quite literally, if you dropped them off in a forest, they'd all be dead in a week, right? | ||
| They literally know nothing. | ||
| This is all a part of the big plan, right? | ||
| The idea is to produce dumb people intentionally. | ||
| And think about this. | ||
| We hear from people like Bill Gates and a lot of these Davos types where it's, you know, we got to reduce population growth. | ||
| We see a lot of actions taken that not only reduce population but also stagnate the economy. | ||
| Think about what happens if you've got someone who works in a foundry. | ||
| You know, they're like, you know, they're making, let's just say, let's just say widgets. | ||
| They're smelting metal and doing all that stuff. | ||
| And then along comes a college grad with a degree in gender studies. | ||
| Adding a DEI specialist to the foundry serves only one purpose. | ||
| It slows the economic activity. | ||
| It causes internal conflict, which damages their ability to produce. | ||
| Either the United States is being destroyed for this reason, or with this tactic, or It is inadvertently being destroyed by this tactic. | ||
| This is where gender studies and Black Lives Matter and the race initiatives lock arms. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Oh, now you should hire talent based on the color of their skin. | ||
| Where's your diversity and inclusion department? | ||
| What is that doing? | ||
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| It's counterintuitive to the free market. | ||
| It's counterintuitive to businesses that are growing and becoming productive. | ||
| It's to hire people that know absolutely nothing. | ||
| But I got to have this whole department with 10 people that are hired because one's black, one's gay, and that means that I'm a good business. | ||
| And people are losing money. | ||
| Because, obviously, this is not a sound economic model. | ||
| And so, this is much more Machiavellian. | ||
| People say that the left is stupid. | ||
| Oh, they think men can be men. | ||
| Yeah, the people that listen to the left, you can maybe challenge it. | ||
| They're actually not even stupid. | ||
| They're brainwashed. | ||
| It's not really their fault. | ||
| Brainwash is real. | ||
| Propaganda is real. | ||
| It has real effects, especially when it's taking place in the classroom where they're spending six hours a day. | ||
| They're not even stupid. | ||
| They're brainwashed. | ||
| You should sympathize rather than call them stupid. | ||
| But the people at the top that are producing this, that want this to happen. | ||
| This is Machiavellian. | ||
| These people are insane. | ||
| They're psychopaths and they know exactly what they're doing. | ||
| That's what something I thought while you were saying, explaining it earlier, is that what's more dangerous than having a group of uneducated people is having a group of miseducated people that have been educated for nefarious purposes. | ||
| Because it's harder to untrain the brain than it is to give it something new. | ||
| Especially when you give it a degree. | ||
| Because when you give it a degree, what you're giving them is they think they're smart. | ||
| Oh my gosh! | ||
| The number one thing that the left says to me is, well, you didn't even graduate college. | ||
| That's their, okay, so let me get this straight. | ||
| I'm doing better than you, I have a larger audience, but you have a little paper degree. | ||
| So they go out and those people then get really angry because they tried that degree. | ||
| In a free market society, they have no success and they become bitter, angry, resentful, perfect little leftists that will march in the street talking about how this entire system needs to be burned to the ground because how do they not become successful when they have a degree? | ||
| You know what I like to say, because they do this to me all the time, they'll tweet like, yeah, see, this proves Tim's a high school dropout, or don't listen to me, he's a high school dropout. | ||
| Did you drop out of high school? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And my response is, your high school diploma and five bucks will get you a cup of coffee. | ||
| It should be $3, but thanks to the way you voted, it's now $5 for a cup of coffee. | ||
| It's the number one thing. | ||
| It gives them this inflated ego. | ||
| They actually think, even though their entire life tells them they're a remarkable failure, but I have a degree! | ||
| It's like my guy. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Be humble. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Look, I don't expect everybody in the world to be a millionaire. | ||
| I don't expect everybody to have a six-figure salary. | ||
| If you're somebody who works an honest job and says, you know, look, I did everything they told me to do. | ||
| If someone came to me and said, look, man, I went to college, I got my degree, I worked really hard, and I make $35,000 a year as an administrative assistant, I'd be like, You know, look, man, I'll try and give you some advice and help you out. | ||
| Just be humble. | ||
| We're trying to help you out. | ||
| I don't think it's society's fault. | ||
| I'm sorry, I don't think it's the individual's fault that they were lied to by the machine and tricking them into getting student loan debts and all that stuff. | ||
| But if you come out and you're like, I'm so much smarter than you because I finished high school. | ||
| I make $30,000 a year. | ||
| I'll be like, my guy. | ||
| You just say, yes, you are. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Yes, you are. | ||
| Hey, what the Rockefeller family did when it came to shaping modern education was pretty smart, was pretty brilliant. | ||
| They made a lot of good factory workers that regurgitate and repeat everything they're told to repeat. | ||
| They follow all the orders. | ||
| They make sure that they get the job done for the boss. | ||
| And what else did you think was going to happen? | ||
| Which brings us to Big Pharma. | ||
| If you're going to talk about Rockefeller, you have to mention Big Pharma. | ||
| Right? | ||
| You literally have doctors that are graduating Harvard right now. | ||
| I cover this on my podcast this week. | ||
| They are graduating Harvard and they believe that children are born with the ability to pick their gender. | ||
| I mean, like they're talking about infants right now. | ||
| I cover this on my show. | ||
| Infants, they believe, have within them, possess within them the knowledge to know that they're in the wrong body. | ||
| Right? | ||
| I have an infant. | ||
| An infant knows absolutely nothing. | ||
| These people now are convinced that they're brighter than you because they're a doctor and they became a doctor because they graduated from Harvard. | ||
| I know you went to university. | ||
| You have to go to university to be that dumb. | ||
| Nowadays, you have to spend four years in school to be this stupid. | ||
| I can't remember this, but my mom tells people that when I was little, when asked what I wanted to be when I grew up, I would say a pumpkin. | ||
| Because, like, being a little kid who doesn't understand concepts of, like, reality, jobs, or otherwise, I was like, I don't remember saying that, but, I mean, it sounds like something a three-year-old would say. | ||
| Is that why you started this company? | ||
| I wanted to be a pumpkin, that's it. | ||
| Just research and development? | ||
| We'll get there. | ||
| In the basement. | ||
| We're already there. | ||
| You can identify as a pumpkin. | ||
| Oh, you're right. | ||
| We can tattoo you, Pink. | ||
| You were so smart! | ||
| You were so smart! | ||
| You were so ahead of your time! | ||
| We've got a genetics lab in the basement, and all of your super chats, all of your TimCast membership go into DNA manipulation to convert human cells into pumpkin cells. | ||
| Whaling pumpkin human chimeras. | ||
| The noise keeps me up at night. | ||
| I just tell myself they're chickens. | ||
| Yo, but like a little kid doesn't know anything. | ||
| I'm joking, by the way. | ||
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| They believe in infant? | ||
| No, I mean, it's crazy. | ||
| It is crazy. | ||
| What's happening? | ||
| Are they being told that at Harvard while they're learning? | ||
| They're learning it in a book. | ||
| That's a problem. | ||
| If you want to trick a person that is a student, an academic, put it in a book. | ||
| Literally, it's incredible to me. | ||
| This goes to the Sam Harris thing. | ||
| I don't know if you guys are friends with him. | ||
| Please go back and find Sam Harris in our little debate on Twitter. | ||
| The things that he called me. | ||
| You know why? | ||
| Because Sam Harris has a degree. | ||
| And then it was literally the funniest conversation ever. | ||
| Dave Rubin tried to be like, oh, two people that I'm friends with, I don't want them fighting. | ||
| You guys should get on the phone. | ||
| This is to Dave Rubin's credit, by the way. | ||
| And he gives Sam Harris my number. | ||
| He calls me. | ||
| This is the day that they announced that COVID's happening and things are going to shut down. | ||
| I'm in Texas. | ||
| I'm about to go to an event. | ||
| And he sounds like he's in an effing bunker. | ||
| He sounded like a crazy person. | ||
| He's like, you don't understand. | ||
| This thing's going to get really bad. | ||
| I spoke to my doctors. | ||
| I know doctors that are in Italy. | ||
| In two weeks, there's going to be gurneys in the streets. | ||
| Nobody's going to be able to go anywhere. | ||
| Candice, please, you have to be responsible with your platform. | ||
| You need to encourage people to get inside. | ||
| Talk about a conversation I should have recorded, right? | ||
| It was stunning. | ||
| He went crazy. | ||
| And then he went on other podcasts and he called me, I mean, a categorical imbecile, all these things. | ||
| You know why? | ||
| Because he went and he got a degree and he called his doctor friends and his doctor friends all said they understood this thing because they were reading what was in a book and now they were reading studies. | ||
| It's like all you have to do to trick an academic is to put it in a book. | ||
| And it becomes magically real, and they suspend their ability to think critically because that's what too much schooling does. | ||
| It suspends your ability to think critically because your job at these university campuses is to remember information, not to regurgitate information. | ||
| It's not to think quickly and go, wait a second, this justifies common sense. | ||
| They just go, oh, but it's right here. | ||
| But more importantly, it's also to follow the hierarchy. | ||
| So if there's a boss, if there's someone paying you, if there's like a Bill Gates creating something like the Bill Chill in the scientific community, you cannot criticize that because if you do, you're going to get your funding cut from you. | ||
| And people don't understand, especially when it comes to American history, there have been so many horrors in American history that have been done through doctors, whether it was the Tuskegee experiments, the MKUltra experiments, Operation Sea Spray. | ||
| That's another one that a lot of people The DDT poisoning. | ||
| Which became the MMR vaccine somehow. | ||
| The secret government poisoning of San Francisco residents with plutonium. | ||
| There's also the forced sterilization that has happened all throughout this country since the 1900s all the way up to 2010. | ||
| The Florida in our water right now. | ||
| That makes no effing sense scientifically. | ||
| The worst horrors that humanity faced were rubber stamped by doctors that were following orders and just doing what they were told. | ||
| Hey, tell me real quick, what's the Operation Sea Spray? | ||
| Operation Sea Spray is when the U.S. | ||
| government was doing a bioweapons experiment on San Francisco in the 1950s. | ||
| Wow! | ||
| Was that when they were spraying or something on people? | ||
| Secret in which Serratia... | ||
| Marcus Senns and Bacillus globigii bacteria were sprayed over San Francisco Bay Area in California to determine how vulnerable a city like San Francisco may be to bioweapon attack. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That's 1950. | ||
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| That's like right after the military industrial complex got formed. | ||
| This is all the stuff that we know about. | ||
| So this is what the secret agencies, what the federal government was doing decades and decades ago. | ||
| There's probably still a bunch of stuff that we don't know about today, but the sterilization aspect is one of the biggest because it continued all the way up to 2010 when Californian women prisoners, without their knowledge, were being sterilized by the government. | ||
| So this has been happening for a very long time. | ||
| There's a lot of eugenicists out there. | ||
| There's a lot of people that believe that there's too many people in this world, and they have created so many horrors that need to be addressed and rectified. | ||
| And this is public knowledge? | ||
| Imagine what's secret. | ||
| Do you guys know about the Humanzee? | ||
| No. | ||
| Sounds like a human chimpanzee. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| And so it's, you know, if you read about it, they'll tell you it's it's hypothesized. | ||
| There's urban legends about it. | ||
| But I'm sorry, man. | ||
| If you think that the various governments of the world did not try to create chimeric human hybrids and other weird nonsense, then you're naive. | ||
| Now, Alex Jones coming out and saying they're making cow people and stuff may be a stretch too far, but there's an old story about, apparently the urban legend is that, and maybe it's just history, in the Soviet Union, they were taking human women and inseminating them with chimp semen, because you can't do it the other way around because chimps are too small. | ||
| A female chimp can't carry a human baby, it's too big. | ||
| But a human female can carry a human Z because it's smaller and so they were like offering women money or just forcefully doing this. | ||
| You think the United States isn't doing anything like that? | ||
| They're definitely doing something. | ||
| Funding it and then having it done in China. | ||
| They're doing it times 10. | ||
| I guess we'll wait till we're behind. | ||
| Total big con move, but like a lot I want to say about the vaccine. | ||
| And by the way, I said a lot of stuff about the vaccine publicly on my show. | ||
| I mean, I, you guys know, I do not vax my children. | ||
| I am like, I think maybe the only vocally person that says proudly. | ||
| Everything you just said, ditto. | ||
| We actually do have a story we can talk about in the Members Only Show that Luke was bringing up, which will be really interesting, and there's a lot more we can add. | ||
| like thank you, I have to help these children and the entire world, I was injured by a vaccine, | ||
| you're not going to gaslight me against an injury that I suffered. | ||
| Everything you just said, ditto. | ||
| Well, we actually do have a story we can talk about in the Members Only Show that Luke was bringing up, | ||
| which will be really interesting, and there's a lot more we can add to it. | ||
| Yeah, about, you know, Bumpstock Donnie there, but that's a separate- | ||
| Bumpstock Donnie? | ||
| That's a separate subject there, but- But again, human experimentation has been done by so many high-level government officials, and what they're doing right now, we can't even imagine. | ||
| And it's not just being done in Ukraine with the specific gain-of-function research that they're doing there. | ||
| It's not just being done in China. | ||
| It's being done domestically. | ||
| There's a lot of things that, again, we could get into the weeds. | ||
| We could go down the rabbit hole, especially when it comes to Lyme disease, Agent Orange, gay bombs. | ||
| I want to hear about how DDT, you mentioned it was led to the MMR vaccine. | ||
| Yeah, I mean the DDT scam, people, if you want to really start learning about vaccines, it all begins with people believing that polio was eradicated. | ||
| And LOL, if you're starting level, is you think that polio was eradicated. | ||
| There's so much that people have to understand about vaccines. | ||
| I am now of very formed opinion that I believe that there is a true government war on fertility They want to own the means of fertility. | ||
| And this is happening in the classroom with convincing women when we're 13 to get on birth control pills and telling you there's no effect. | ||
| There's no effect to me taking hormones every single day. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Really? | ||
| There's going to be no effect to me taking hormone pills every... How stupid? | ||
| I mean, again, common sense, but I read it. | ||
| I read it a book. | ||
| There's a sterilization program being run right now against the people of this world and many people don't even realize it. | ||
| And I just want to add too, just to stop and think about how crazy it is that we mass hormonally medicate females in this country. | ||
| And mass. | ||
| And there are people I know that women who are said like... I don't touch it. | ||
| I never touched it. | ||
| I had a bad feeling about it in my gut when I was 13. | ||
| And every time I went to the doctor, like if I was like, oh, my head hurts, they'd be like, birth control. | ||
| I was like, oh, like my belly hurts. | ||
| They're like, birth control. | ||
| I'm like, oh, I have a cramp. | ||
| They're like, birth control. | ||
| I'm like, OK, well, this can't be like an all catch pill. | ||
| Why are you trying to try to get me on birth control pill? | ||
| And I just thank God I had that spiritual discernment when I was like, this is weird. | ||
| This is weird. | ||
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It is weird. | |
| It destroys women for the rest of their lives. | ||
| It's absolutely horrible. | ||
| Let's go to Super Chats and read. | ||
| I want to read just one very important Super Chat right away from Daniel A. He said, Ironic Crowder was on Arthur and now he's fighting with DW. | ||
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I posted that on Twitter yesterday. | |
| I did not miss that. | ||
| I was a huge, by the way, I was a huge Arthur fan when I was a kid. | ||
| Arthur's awesome. | ||
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When you were a kid. | |
| That's why I'm really sad about this. | ||
| Dude, I watched Arthur up until they cancelled it. | ||
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I loved it. | |
| Not really. | ||
| I mean, I'd watch it if it was on right now. | ||
| I'd just jump off and just watch it. | ||
| It's a great show. | ||
| It's a good show. | ||
| It's my middle name. | ||
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Arthur. | |
| It's a great show. | ||
| It's the only reason I knew what an aardvark was. | ||
| Let's be honest. | ||
| I like Arthur. | ||
| So he is an aardvark. | ||
| Confirmed. | ||
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Confirmed. | |
| That's kind of weird. | ||
| His face isn't really shaped like that. | ||
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No, it's not. | |
| All right, so we got a whole bunch of Super Chats to read. | ||
| Smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends. | ||
| We're gonna read your Super Chats. | ||
| The end result of that poll was massive. | ||
| There were about 50,000, it was like 45,000 votes, and I think it was 74% in favor of Steven Crowder. | ||
| Wait, what poll? | ||
| I did a poll for the audience, who do you think is right? | ||
| When? | ||
| When we started the show. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Crowder or The Daily Wire. | ||
| And how long does it run for? | ||
| We ran it until I think 9, 10. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And it had about 45,000 votes. | ||
| 74% said Crowder. | ||
| It started a little higher and started to shift down a little bit. | ||
| Some people said Daily Wire bots were attacking. | ||
| No, I just think... Well, if Crowder won, then Daily Wire bots clearly weren't attacking. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's just like, not everything is a conspiracy theory, guys. | ||
| Alright, let's read. | ||
| Let's read. | ||
| Let's read. | ||
| Buddha Brother says, from these comments, I've decided the right has now swung too far. | ||
| No one's actually thinking. | ||
| Everyone sees everything they don't like as evil. | ||
| Left Matrix. | ||
| Crowders acting like a child. | ||
| That's the thing, it's like not everything, like I just said, not everything is a conspiracy. | ||
| And that's what's so frustrating to me is that you turn something that was just a regular contract negotiation into this huge conspiracy that there's like some boogeyman. | ||
| And there are plenty of things you can pick apart the daily wire for, this is just not one of them. | ||
| This is just how business goes, you know? | ||
| Megan Cole says, why do people always assume the worst of each other? | ||
| It is possible to mess up a situation and have good intentions. | ||
| Mistakes or differences of opinions are far off from malicious intent. | ||
| Well said. | ||
| I think Crowder sees malicious intent. | ||
| I think The Daily Wire... Or is he the malicious intent? | ||
| It looks like from what Jeremy was saying, or in your opinion, it's that Crowder is trying to personally benefit from the controversy, and then Crowder's opinion makes it seem like he's ideologically opposed to The Daily Wire. | ||
| And he didn't say Daily Wire specifically at first. | ||
| I do believe Fox. | ||
| I think Fox is probably not a good company to contract with. | ||
| We talked about it. | ||
| Fox hosts can't come on this show. | ||
| But whatever, man, look, nobody owes me anything. | ||
| If they don't want to come on the show, I don't really care. | ||
| All right, let's see where we're at. | ||
| What's trending on Twitter? | ||
| What is? | ||
| Candice. | ||
| Candice followed by Steven Crowder. | ||
| The top trends are Candice is trending in News and Entertainment, Steven Crowder, and the third trend is Bronnie. | ||
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Wait, what? | |
| Are you, like, seriously? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, let's see, trending... | ||
| So here's what I'm seeing for U.S. | ||
| Daily Wire, Crosby, Steff, Tatum, Crowder No. | ||
| 4. | ||
| Oh wow, why do we have different trends? | ||
| You might have recommended trends. | ||
| Yeah, mine's not algorithmic. | ||
| Twitter has been very interesting. | ||
| Daily Wire 23. | ||
| I've been getting a lot of different viewpoints on there that I never had before. | ||
| Oh, in news. | ||
| In news, sorry. | ||
| Yep, Candace is No. | ||
| 2 in news for me. | ||
| Yep. | ||
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We're all at work. | |
| You know why this is trending so much though? | ||
| I asked my followers what my last thing was what do you think about him sharing the phone call? | ||
| I love that. I'm just like we should be bringing the supercharged. | ||
| They're paying. I mean, that's probably better for us You know, you know why this is trending so much though. It's | ||
| because the the woke left The the corporate left establishment like Daily Beast and | ||
| Rolling Stone are writing huge articles They're like sharks smelling blood in the water and they're like, you know, quick, attack the right! | ||
| Underneath my question of what is everyone's thoughts about Steven Crowder recording this conversation, Mike Cernovich says, Jeremy said wage slave. | ||
| I'm literally shaking at having to hear a term that I and all of my co-workers called ourselves when on a guaranteed salary that arrived like clockwork without any of our own assets at risk. | ||
| Viva Frye, hope I'm saying that right, I love him by the way, he makes great videos, He said, I don't know who can think surreptitiously recording a conversation among purported friends can possibly look good. | ||
| That's my point. | ||
| Secretly recording conversations in general looks bad on its face. | ||
| It requires a very serious justification above and beyond unsatisfactory negotiations. | ||
| A lot of this is common sense. | ||
| Bryson says it makes him look prepared. | ||
| He recorded the conversation after registering StopVidCon.com. | ||
| Yes, it's like I just don't understand. | ||
| To me it's like, So obvious. | ||
| Like, you may be a best friend, but if you are sitting across the table from me in a contract, no negotiation, you're an adversary. | ||
| I mean, all of my comments, I'm not seeing that people are thinking that this is an okay thing for Steven to have done. | ||
| So that's interesting that there's a discrepancy. | ||
| Clef the Misfit says, what's the over-under Crowder cancels his Monday appearance after seeing the show? | ||
| Zero. | ||
| This recorded conversation was definitely a bridge too far. | ||
| It's like, that's where people should focus on, the recorded conversation and the fact that he did do a counter-offer. | ||
| And again, I will not defend Daily Wire in every capacity. | ||
| I respect Daily Wire. | ||
| I have a good working relationship. | ||
| I do not consider Jeremy Boring or Caleb to be my friends, but they have been fair in negotiations. | ||
| They have acted at the part of businessmen, and if you do business, you should expect that this is how it goes, is what I'm saying. | ||
| And it's also an indication that they'll go to bat for you as a contractor employee when they're negotiating on your behalf as Daily Wire, if that ever comes up. | ||
| Jeremy's a good negotiator. | ||
| I mean, he's hard. | ||
| That's how he got to where he is. | ||
| It's business. | ||
| It's freaking business, you know what I mean? | ||
| I personally defend Steven's right to record without telling anyone. | ||
| It's a one-party consent state. | ||
| I like it. | ||
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All right. | |
| I'm into it. | ||
| Record it all. | ||
| Remind me not to pick up your phone calls. | ||
| Real quick, I don't see... If Crowder cancels, it's because he's a busy guy and not because of Candace's appearance. | ||
| Not because he's write-ups. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Oh, so here we go. | ||
| Jay Yes says, so fun to watch the left and right eat themselves. | ||
| It's all crumbling. | ||
| I need more Ian, who surprisingly has the most level head. | ||
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Thank you, sir. | |
| Thank you. | ||
| Just keep treading water. | ||
| Eventually, you'll be the only one left. | ||
| I was saying it'd be funny if we started the show and had Luke wearing a judge's robe and a wig with a gavel. | ||
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I like gavels. | |
| State your case, and then I'll determine who's right. | ||
| I like Luke. | ||
| He's on Ant Team Antivax, so. | ||
| We're just chillin' over here. | ||
| OG, day one. | ||
| I don't know if you've seen those yet, Candace, but these are chakra vibrators. | ||
| Have you? | ||
| It came out of Las Vegas. | ||
| Chakra vibrational. | ||
| Family-friendly show here. | ||
| I thought this was a family-friendly show. | ||
| But they are literally chakra vibrators. | ||
| You ding it, and then you... | ||
| You put it on your body, and they're different chakras. | ||
| Each one is for a different chakra. | ||
| All right, let me read some more. | ||
| AJ says, Tim, this is all theater between Jeremy and Crudder to swing the news cycle. | ||
| They are both faking like WWE. | ||
| Pay Luke the $50 million. | ||
| Yeah, where's my $50 million? | ||
| I volunteer here. | ||
| WWE. | ||
| Because I love it here, and it's really fun to be a part of these conversations. | ||
| Uh-oh. | ||
| Oh, yeah, well, speaking of that. | ||
| David Frederick says, Luke, your t-shirt company completely scammed me. | ||
| One of my shirts was never delivered. | ||
| One was delivered with holes in it. | ||
| I have reached out to you and the company and have had no help. | ||
| That was a good break. | ||
| I highly do not believe that. | ||
| I actually messaged my team because I saw that. | ||
| I read every single chat that happens during these conversations. | ||
| And here's my work chat. | ||
| And I took a picture of it. | ||
| And I'm like, hey, let's try to fix this right away. | ||
| My team's like, we don't know anyone under that name. | ||
| We just checked all of our records. | ||
| We don't have that. | ||
| But if there is a problem, we always fix it. | ||
| I strive on having the best customer service, and you can email us info at wearechange.org. | ||
| And David Fredericks, if that's not the name you went by when you bought the t-shirts, we will fix it right away. | ||
| Because, yeah, I mean, that's what we do here. | ||
| And if there's a problem, we'll, you know, it doesn't sound like something that would happen with us, but if it did, we'll fix it right away. | ||
| Josh Branson says, you going to give Crowder 30 minutes to personally insult people like Candace is? | ||
| He's been doing it on his own platform. | ||
| So does he need more than 30 minutes? | ||
| I mean, just pay attention. | ||
| Subscribe to his YouTube channel. | ||
| That's a promotion for Crowder. | ||
| If you're looking for personal insults, I suggest you look at the video that he made, which implied that all of the Daily Wire hosts were sellouts. | ||
| So there you go. | ||
| He says, I'll be watching. | ||
| Funnily enough, Crowder probably wouldn't have used it if not for Candace here. | ||
| I'll just say when Crowder comes on, he's going to be allowed to say exactly what he wants to say about it, the same as Candace is allowed to talk about what her opinion is. | ||
| How do people expect me not to be offended? | ||
| Now that you've seen Jeremy's video, go back and re-watch Crowder's video and just realize you will see it. | ||
| How many times he lied and intentionally omitted certain truths that would have made the Daily Wire look better, and made the hosts look better, and the slight little jabs at the hosts of like, you might be noticing that they're kind of dumbing, you know, like, being, sanitizing their opinions. | ||
| Like, these were all jabs at me, okay? | ||
| So, let's, and me, and all, there's only a few hosts of the Daily Wire. | ||
| There's only a few of us, right? | ||
| So when you do something like this, and you kind of just say, mm, it's a lot of other people, you're taking attacks on me as well, and I have a right to defend myself always. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| Cody Copka says, why did Jordan Peterson delete his tweet in support of Crowder? | ||
| I was actually curious about that. | ||
| I saw people like tweeting about it, but I wasn't aware of it. | ||
| So do you? | ||
| I'll give you my thoughts. | ||
| Jordan Peterson probably tweeted out the video from Steven Crowder. | ||
| And then someone at the Daily Wire probably said to him like, hey, you know that's about us, right? | ||
| And he was like, oh, I didn't realize. | ||
| And they're like, yeah. | ||
| And he was like, I'll take it down. | ||
| That probably is a sane opinion. | ||
| I'm sure there's bigger conspiracies that we can create for the internet, so let's make one up. | ||
| That's way too sane for the internet. | ||
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| They're secretly in a relationship. | ||
| No, but here's what's going to happen. | ||
| People are going to think that Jordan Peterson tweeted it out, then Jeremy went to him and said, you better take that tweet down or else. | ||
| Well, we're going to take all your money. | ||
| And then Jordan was like, please, please don't take my money. | ||
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Take the gimp mask off me. | |
| Now we're warming up! | ||
| I need my fancy socks! | ||
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Don't take my suits! | |
| My lobsters! | ||
| That's a skit I would watch. | ||
| Jordan Peterson's locked in a small white room with a lobster, like he's petting it, and then Jeremy walks in and grabs the lobster, and he's like, if you want it back, you take it! | ||
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| No, no, it's just having worked for like Fusion and Vice, people who work at companies don't need to be told what to do. | ||
| No one needs to go to someone at Fusion and be like, hey, you know, we're demanding you cover the story and say it this way. | ||
| The people they hire, they'll go to you and be like, oh, hey, we saw your tweet this morning. | ||
| Don't you feel like it's kind of racist? | ||
| And they'll go, oh, I'm sorry about that. | ||
| Take it down. | ||
| You don't got to ask them. | ||
| They only hire the people who are already in line and willing to cooperate in this way and like cohesively function like that. | ||
| So I think Jordan Peterson is probably like, oh, I didn't realize. | ||
| Delete. | ||
| I didn't think twice. | ||
| I don't want to be involved in this. | ||
| And yeah, goodbye. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| But that's again, let's go back to the lobster theory. | ||
| And he's locked in a basement and Jeremy and him are dating. | ||
| It's like, well, it's like that scene from Iron Man two, you know, when they walk in and take his parrot from him and put in the bag. | ||
| And he's like, I just took your stuff. | ||
| How does it feel? | ||
| Like they take his lobster and put it in a bag and Jordan Peterson sitting there. | ||
| Make the tweet. | ||
| All right, all right, where are we at? | ||
| Dorian Marius Gray says, I'm with Luke. | ||
| Who cares about all this bickering between conservative media personalities? | ||
| We got globalists trying to kill us every day with their policies and making a new world order. | ||
| There's a eugenicist depopulation program happening right now. | ||
| Okay, Crowder, we got better things to talk about. | ||
| That's just my two cents here. | ||
| People listen! | ||
| I like the conversation about the contracts. | ||
| That's super important. | ||
| That needs to change. | ||
| Dixie Tailgate says Candace and Emily Campagno should start their own show called Hot Fast | ||
| Talking Conservative Chicks. | ||
| When I get fired up, I speak so fast and I consciously try to slow it down. | ||
| But when I get upset, I'm just... | ||
| Did it always like that or did it get more over the years? | ||
| No, I would say that it's a family trait. | ||
| Yeah, but I've gotten better at it and I slow it down when I'm being intentional. | ||
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| I listen extremely fast. | ||
| I do. | ||
| See, I intentionally pretended I didn't and answered your question very slowly. | ||
| That was intentional. | ||
| Tried really hard there, guys. | ||
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| Breathe through the nose. | ||
| Also, keep your forehead relaxed. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Whatever this does. | ||
| Alex D. He says Candace is a liar. | ||
| Crowder requested $30 million a year for four years minus production costs, not $140 million per year, as she claimed. | ||
| Okay, I'm sorry if I got the math wrong. | ||
| The most important part of this, 30 million dollars a year times, how many years are you saying? | ||
| I think it was 120 over four years, 30 million years. | ||
| But I said 140, I should have said 120. | ||
| I would like to apologize for the lie. | ||
| There's probably a big conspiracy as to why I lied, not just that I made a simple mathematical error, and your big conspiracy would be right. | ||
| The point is, is that he made a counter offer, so he was not outraged by the terms. | ||
| I'm so annoyed by the people who are quote-tweeting people like Will Sommer. | ||
| He's like a Daily Beast writer. | ||
| Come on, that guy's a total scumbag. | ||
| And he's taking Crowder out of context. | ||
| I'm like, you don't have to like or agree with Crowder, but what really pisses me off is I'm seeing tons of people, even conservatives and moderates and centrists, retweeting a guy who makes things up and then making fun of Crowder. | ||
| And I'm like, no, no. | ||
| Disagree with Crowder on the merits. | ||
| Don't listen to a guy who's lying about what Crowder said. | ||
| Don't promote Will Somner. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Like, at all, ever, under any circumstances. | ||
| You see, you know it's bad when you're criticizing Crowder, but actually defending him from the lies of Will Somner. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it's Will Somner. | ||
| I mean, like, he's a total dirtbag. | ||
| And so while I think what Steven Crowder did is wrong and is a dirtbag move, it doesn't help us by promoting another dirtbag. | ||
| GBB says, Hasan Abi is a self-admitted Marxist. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| And the tweet was still funny. | ||
| It was funny. | ||
| It's funny when, like, I see people on the right take a joke tweet from Vosh or Hasan seriously, and I'm like, come on, guys. | ||
| Like, Vosh is not seriously advocating for eating people. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Like, he'll make a weird joke or whatever, and then people will be like, bleh! | ||
| And then you retweet it, and it's like, retweets suddenly become endorsements, and people on the right start acting like people on the left, and it's like, alright, dude, chill. | ||
| Like, chill. | ||
| And you're not really communist, right? | ||
| Just to be clear. | ||
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| Federale says, I'm glad this conversation is happening as well, but I also agree that I just want Luke to talk about the globalists for a while. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| There's a war on for your balls. | ||
| Testosterone and sperm levels are declining to record levels. | ||
| Humanity will face a crisis of civilizations that will know no fricking bounds. | ||
| We are in deep trouble unless we wake up right now, people. | ||
| I'm just sitting here talking about business relationships and Luke's like, they're coming for your balls! | ||
| They are, literally. | ||
| People listen! | ||
| They're gonna take your balls! | ||
| I wish I could read that comment. | ||
| Suggestion box? | ||
| Get something here so that your guests can read too. | ||
| I love that. | ||
| And your co-hosts. | ||
| I don't have the best eyesight. | ||
| The new studio, we're going to have monitors for everybody. | ||
| So the issue is, we learned. | ||
| And so now we're going to have actually little modules in the table that pop open. | ||
| You can plug your laptop into it. | ||
| I would love to see what everybody's saying so I could fire answer anything that There's just so much, so I can only read so much. | ||
| I try to find good ones. | ||
| I don't want... | ||
| Yeah, no, it makes sense. | ||
| Of course, you can't answer everything. | ||
| But all of them are basically saying, I hate Candace. | ||
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She's awful. | |
| No. | ||
| She's ugly. | ||
| Worst. | ||
| Why isn't she Vax for kids? | ||
| Yeah, I get it. | ||
| Do you get them any vaccines? | ||
| Zero percent. | ||
| Just healthy human beings out the way they're born. | ||
| Josh Vicker says, Candace said Crowder called Jeremy two months after registering the Stop | ||
| Big Con on 12-12-22. | ||
| She was using personal attacks that she condemns others for. | ||
| Wait, that's an interesting point. | ||
| I wouldn't call that a personal attack. | ||
| It's not a personal attack, it's a timeline. | ||
| Yeah, if Crowder registered StopBigCon on December 12th, but then called Jeremy on like January... December 22nd, actually. | ||
| No. | ||
| 10 days later? | ||
| 22nd, no. | ||
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It was the 12th? | |
| Do you want to pull up the Who Is? | ||
| Yeah, I think it was the 12th. | ||
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was the 12th. | |
| Oh, okay. | ||
| So then I misread it. | ||
| It's my fault. | ||
| And then the 15th was when he made the Join Mug Club thing. | ||
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Right, oh, okay. | |
| So we checked the Who Is, and then I guess he called Jeremy a week ago? | ||
| A week ago. | ||
| And then recorded a conversation. | ||
| So it's nefarious. | ||
| A week ago, and then he recorded the conversation. | ||
| So everyone can put the context clues together and solve the situation. | ||
| So he had intended to launch Stop Big Con Dale Barr says Crowder is in the wrong. | ||
| However, I think JB should have accepted that they missed on demonetization. | ||
| but it was one month after. | ||
| Guys, clearly math. | ||
| You got me. | ||
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| I've been got. | ||
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Yeah, either way, it was before. | |
| Dale Barr says Crowder is in the wrong. | ||
| However, I think JB should have accepted that they missed on demonetization. | ||
| Lodder with Crowder questioning the DW's conservative values. | ||
| Doesn't know contractor relationships or how much DW did in the culture war. | ||
| I just don't understand if you hire me to work for you and I get completely demonetized | ||
| and I can no longer produce any content, I should just keep paying you because you're | ||
| Well, no, no, I can actually simplify this. | ||
| The Daily Wire wasn't trying to hire Crowder. | ||
| The Daily Wire was trying to license content. | ||
| I think the Daily Wire could have made the contract sound like this. | ||
| Luke, I will do a contract with you to license 192 YouTube videos. | ||
| I'm not signing no contracts. | ||
| But here's my point. | ||
| Where's my toilet paper? | ||
| I'm gonna treat that contract like a... The issue is, The Daily Wire could have just said, we will license 192 episodes of The Loudmouth Crowder Show to appear on Apple, Facebook, Spotify, and YouTube. | ||
| If you miss one of these episodes for any reason, we will dock you on the fee to measure it to the episode lost. | ||
| Then basically, if Crowder got banned, Daily Wire would be like, hey, Crowder, we noticed that you're short three episodes from the contract. | ||
| And he'd say, well, I'm banned from YouTube. | ||
| I'm like, OK, well, then you're in breach of contract. | ||
| Which is what they did, right? | ||
| They actually, it's even more favorable because they said we're only going to dock you a percentage of the contract so you can still get paid. | ||
| So you're basically saying they should have dropped him and said now you get zero percent, which is actually a more aggressive contract. | ||
| Well, so the issue is, the Daily Wire, the way they structured the licensing agreement, they separated, right, they could have just said... Zero percent. | ||
| If you get docked, that's actually more aggressive. | ||
| If I tell you I am buying ten YouTube videos and then you get banned from YouTube, you are unable to complete the terms of contract, I pay you nothing. | ||
| That's worse, those are worse terms. | ||
| I know. | ||
| That's my point. | ||
| This is literally, we're all agreeing. | ||
| Actually, they were being nicer because they said, we're only gonna dock you 20% of the fee. | ||
| Please guys, if I misquoted it, please. | ||
| You got my point is that they said 20% of the fee if you get banned from YouTube. | ||
| So they were actually being nicer in those circumstances because the normal person would say, you get banned from YouTube, sorry, go kick rocks. | ||
| That's what you're saying. | ||
| That would make sense. | ||
| You can no longer perform as you've agreed to. | ||
| But it's because they weren't hiring Crowder. | ||
| And that's why. | ||
| What do you mean they weren't hiring him? | ||
| As an employee? | ||
| Yeah, but the point is that it's the same concept. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| This is an important distinction. | ||
| Okay, yeah. | ||
| I'm not comprehending what you're saying then. | ||
| Daily Wire is licensing the LWC show that Crowder has to produce and deliver. | ||
| Same for me. | ||
| If he can't deliver, they reduce his pay. | ||
| If they hired him directly, then the Daily Wire assumes those risks because they run the whole thing. | ||
| There's a difference between a license fee... I'm a license fee, that's what I'm trying to tell you. | ||
| It's the same thing, but it wouldn't make sense. | ||
| a license fee if you can't make the content they should say kick rocks right? | ||
| Right right the difference that what I'm saying is if Crowder wanted the Daily | ||
| Wire to assume 100% of the risk he needs to be an employee. | ||
| Oh oh you're that I was missing that piece so you're saying he should have become an employee. | ||
| Then even in that circumstance if you are an employee and your job is to create content | ||
| if you can't create the content. | ||
| Ah but as an employee that's on the business. | ||
| Okay, cool. | ||
| But he didn't want to be an employee. | ||
| He didn't even want to come into the studio and make his content. | ||
| He wanted to own all of his stuff and make his stuff out... So, I mean, this is what he didn't... He didn't want that option, right? | ||
| It's an important distinction I think people need to understand. | ||
| The Daily Wire wasn't hiring Crowder as an employee. | ||
| They were licensing the show from him. | ||
| Yeah, which is how it is for me. | ||
| They're licensing my content. | ||
| So it makes sense that if I can't make my content, it's done. | ||
| And actually, it's favorable to say, like, actually, we're not going to be done with you, we're still going to pay you some money, and we're going to try to replace this in the time and come up with something behind the pay, or whatever, and we're only going to dock you 20%. | ||
| That's actually, which is why when DC Drano was here, I keep calling him DC Drano, Rogan, when Rogan was here, he was like, I don't know, this actually seems pretty okay, you know, this, at least they're not saying you're completely gone, this is kind of nice, you know? | ||
| Here's the challenge. | ||
| My advice to people would be not to sign a contract like that. | ||
| I mean, especially if you're a crowder, a crowder's big. | ||
| But then you gotta admit, Brett Cooper's big. | ||
| Why would you not sign a contract like that? | ||
| I guess I'm trying to get to the bottom of it. | ||
| Why would you not sign a contract that says that if you are banned, obviously we can't make money off of you, why would you say that this is not a good contract? | ||
| I would recommend everybody do their own thing. | ||
| Yeah, and I think that's kind of the conclusion that they came to, right? | ||
| Is that I want to do this, you want to do that. | ||
| Like, you had the same conversation with DW. | ||
| I've had conversations with pretty much everyone in the conservative movement where I went, okay, this doesn't really work for me, it doesn't really work for me, and you walk away because you have different ideas. | ||
| You know, Stephen thinks he's a Tom Brady. | ||
| I mean, that's the truth. | ||
| And he thinks I'm too big for this. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| If Tom Brady wants to orchestrate a contract to go back to the Patriots and negotiations fall apart, Is he really supposed to try to burn down the Patriot organization or to say that we just couldn't come to an agreement? | ||
| That's called, like I said, being a big boy. | ||
| It just didn't work out. | ||
| Button Puncher says $10 says Crowder bails on Monday. | ||
| Why do you think he's going to bail? | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| I've talked to him quite a bit. | ||
| I think he should drop the whole recording, by the way. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| It's just like he did part of the contract and then the part that made Daily Wire look bad and didn't show the other. | ||
| It's like, why don't you drop, I have no idea what that phone call says. | ||
| I'm understanding from Jeremy that it was like a pleasant, friendly conversation about Christmas, right? | ||
| And then he shifted the conversation and made himself sound like a hero. | ||
| Drop it. | ||
| Drop the conversation. | ||
| Stop giving us piecemeal information. | ||
| Let transparency win the day, right? | ||
| Daylight is the best disinfectant. | ||
| As long as Jeremy and Stephen are both into it, I 100% agree. | ||
| I would like them to decide it together. | ||
| What do you mean together? | ||
| Stephen LeRae dropped pieces of it. | ||
| I think Jeremy mentioned that he wouldn't mind if it was public. | ||
| I like Crowder. | ||
| I think Crowder's been screwed over multiple times by contracts. | ||
| And I think if you look at his career, I'm imagining he was like, he leaves The Blaze, and then he looks at these contracts and he's like, this is the same thing everywhere, I don't like this. | ||
| I mean... Time to start your own business. | ||
| It's like, oh, I'm an employee at Chipotle. | ||
| Every time I have these contracts ending, I've worked at Chipotle and I've worked at Subway and I just don't like the fact that when I sign my employment contract that I get paid around this much. | ||
| I think I should be paid this. | ||
| Sounds like it's time to start your own business. | ||
| SirRank says, Brett Cooper responding now on Instagram. | ||
| Ooh, Brett Cooper in the mix. | ||
| Well, so here's an important point. | ||
| Look, if someone asked me, I've had people come to me because Rumble's doing deals with people. | ||
| Rumble's doing, you know, I don't know exactly the terms, but some people are getting signed and we're seeing that a lot. | ||
| I think Russell Brand did something. | ||
| I think people come to me who are smaller and say, hey, Rumble's offering me a deal. | ||
| Should I do it? | ||
| I say, what's the terms? | ||
| They say, here are the terms. | ||
| I say, I wouldn't do it. | ||
| I think it's a bad deal. | ||
| And they will go, okay, well, you know, I'm broke. | ||
| And so, it's money for me. | ||
| And I have to do it. | ||
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| Well, people are at different stages in their life, so people wonder why it might make sense to sign it. | ||
| You have to think about, that's why the individual person, right? | ||
| But, but. | ||
| Are you single and by yourself? | ||
| Like, Brogan was saying, I wouldn't sign something like that. | ||
| I like to be in control of my business. | ||
| Let's ask Brogan that same question, right? | ||
| When he has four kids. | ||
| He just got married. | ||
| And sometimes, the situation shifts, and you're like, you know, I actually want to lay down some roots. | ||
| When I started this stuff seven years ago, I would have never signed a contract with Daily Wire. | ||
| Ever. | ||
| I was loving what I was doing on YouTube. | ||
| I was enjoying my independence. | ||
| I was, you know, doing some part-time stuff with Turning Point USA. | ||
| I was doing Fox News shows five days a week, you know, literally six, seven days a week sometimes. | ||
| My life changed. | ||
| My life changed where I wanted to put down some roots because I have children. | ||
| So that's another part of this conspiracy land where people, I think people said to me, she doesn't go on Alex Jones anymore. | ||
| They never mentioned that I also don't go on Jesse Waters or Laura Ingram or I literally do Tucker once a week. | ||
| It's because I don't have to. | ||
| I have two kids now and I had Alex Jones on my I did my show last year, right? | ||
| So everything becomes this conspiracy, and not that this person is actually growing up, got married, has two kids, and doesn't have as much time to manage an entire business, right? | ||
| And maybe you go, actually, I'd rather spend that time with my kids. | ||
| My continuity of the wire allows for me to wake up in the morning, to drop my kids off at daycare, to pick them up from daycare if I want to, to go back home to have lunch with my son. | ||
| That's a wonderful thing, because motherhood is the most important thing in my life. | ||
| Has The Daily Wire ever, I shouldn't say instructed, but insisted that you don't talk about something? | ||
| No, we've had two content disagreements, and I will be open about it because I believe that transparency is the best way for people to decipher themselves. | ||
| The first one was during COVID crazies, like I think about the time that I did your, and I was instantly against the vaccine 100%, like didn't even play with it. | ||
| And I wanted to do this thing talking about how it was impacting people's menstruation based on what women that had gotten the vaccine were telling me, one of my best friends who I just went to go see here. | ||
| She just literally wouldn't stop bleeding, couldn't get up. | ||
| I mean, it was like girls were terrified and nobody would talk about it. | ||
| And I was adamant. | ||
| I mean, I sat down there in that control and I was like, then why are we doing the show? | ||
| Like, you know, if we're so afraid of and this is one of things where it's like, OK, I get why they're saying they're like, we will like to their credit. | ||
| If you put this on YouTube, they made it very clear. | ||
| They all started making these policies about the vaccine. | ||
| Suddenly, if you said anything against the vaccine, and to me, it would have been worth losing a fee to talk about this because I just wanted it to be on record and for women to hear it. | ||
| And then eventually they agreed and they said, OK, if you're going to do it, you do it by the book. | ||
| You may be careful that you say that a friend told me, you know, just making sure the language is exactly right. | ||
| And that's what the editors are paid to do, to be like, maybe this sentence can be striked so that we have a defense for you on YouTube. | ||
| But I did say you can go back and listen to the episode during COVID, but it was a fight, OK? | ||
| And of course, you gotta make sure to tell everybody, just talk to a medical professional. | ||
| This is not medical advice. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| I had to start with, I'm not a doctor, I'm telling you what I am hearing and what women are telling me. | ||
| And then seven months later, when we were all vindicated, when they suddenly admitted it in the press, I looked like a freaking hero and I was like, see guys, it pays to talk. | ||
| And it wasn't Jeremy and Caleb. | ||
| There's obviously a lot of, I don't talk to Jeremy and Caleb on my shows. | ||
| The second situation was with Ye, obviously. | ||
| That was like a very big deal, things that were going on. | ||
| And they felt, and this actually was a conversation with Jeremy and Caleb, They basically were like, we would never tell you what to say, but what we are saying is that we're under all this fire because whether you're being silent or what you're saying, it seems like people are interpreting this as this is a defense of Ye. | ||
| And we are just asking you like, okay, you have made it clear that Ye is your friend. | ||
| I'm not gonna not say, I made it clear that I was not going to say anything bad about Ye. | ||
| I still feel very passionate about that. | ||
| He is my friend. | ||
| I actually believe in friendship. | ||
| I don't believe in dropping recording. | ||
| I have said publicly, he's my friend. | ||
| And because I have said that, I am not willing to when the entire media is lashing him and he's losing his entire life to add to the fire of everything. | ||
| But then they said something to me and it registered where they said, okay, you're saying all this stuff in defense of Ye, but what about your other friends that might be being hurt by this? | ||
| And that was when I decided on my show to say something in defense of Dennis Prager because I realized that while I was defending Ye, I also wasn't defending people, which is also important to me, my friends like Marissa Straight. | ||
| Marissa Straight CEO of PragerU, I worked for them, but she is much more than that to me. | ||
| Like, she is like a sister to me. | ||
| I went through some very, very serious stuff a couple of years ago, which I wouldn't even care to recap. | ||
| It's one of those situations where you're just like, it's like life or death, you know what I mean? | ||
| Like, how am I gonna get my half in the morning? | ||
| And the only person I spoke to that got me through that was Mr. Straight. | ||
| And I would never deny that I am friends with Mr. Straight, and I would never deny that I am friends with Ye. | ||
| And sometimes these two things at this moment seem to run into conflict and they were just | ||
| like alarm bells being, why are you only saying stuff about yay, not saying I was friends | ||
| with you or whatever. | ||
| And all I did was say exactly what I just said to you. | ||
| I'm friends with both these people and that doesn't make sense to the world at this moment. | ||
| I get that. | ||
| But I refuse to say anything bad about either of them. | ||
| So this is a really good point because like I said, I think the Daily Wire is a net positive. | ||
| We took a different approach to the yay thing. | ||
| After yay stormed out of here, we sent a reporter to go hang out with him and get the story. | ||
| Shane Cashman went down, hung out with him and it was an amazing story and he called | ||
| it the case for President Yay. | ||
| Call that a defense or whatever you want to call it. | ||
| When I talked to him, I was like yay invited Shane to come out and do this interview in | ||
| depth in person to experience what he was working on. | ||
| It was really great. | ||
| And I'm talking to Shane as Ye is on InfoWars saying very outrageous things. | ||
| And then we were like, what do we do? | ||
| And I'm like, do you still want to do it? | ||
| And he was like, yeah. | ||
| I'm like, have fun, bro. | ||
| Write it up. | ||
| Do it to it. | ||
| And that's, and that's a moment that we're in, and by the way, Crack Daily Wire, that's a very difficult scenario to sort of maneuver. | ||
| You have one of your hosts that's like, you know, about yay, and the other host is like, he's my friend. | ||
| So I think that that should show a credit, a credit to the Daily Wire, that we were both Able to say what we felt to be true and I've always said like Shapiro can say what he wants and what he believes They don't become my beliefs. | ||
| We disagree about a lot of different things and the yay Situation was a scenario in which we disagreed and let me tell you the pressure that was put on me From the mainstream media tweets all the stuff to say something bad about yay like to just say one thing bad about him and And to me, it was sadistic, and I stood up for someone because I refused, rather than saying stop for him, I refused to add to it because it seemed sadistic. | ||
| It was like, how much more do you need somebody to be hit over the head? | ||
| He's like bleeding on the ground, he's got nothing left. | ||
| It was like a walk of shame that they wanted to hurt him. | ||
| Yeah, they wanted me, and then I realized it was sadistic because it was like, everyone has said it, the entire world has said it, his wife has said it, this person has said it, they've taken everything from him, they're threatening to psych 5150 him, all this stuff. | ||
| But we need Candice to say it. | ||
| And I was like, this is now sadistic. | ||
| And I am not going to participate in this. | ||
| And then it became, well, if you don't participate, then we're going to whip you too. | ||
| And I was like, F all of you. | ||
| Because at the end of the day, every single day, my goal is to put my head on the pillow and know that I was a decent human being. | ||
| And that is why I don't have very many enemies, shockingly, in this movement. | ||
| Because I stand by what I believe in always, even when it's popular not to do that. | ||
| It would have been so easy for me to sell I want to say one final thought as we start to wrap this up. | ||
| I've known Crowder for a while. | ||
| He's always been really nice to me. | ||
| I've been on his show several times and I like the guy. | ||
| be a person and wait for people to move on. | ||
| And I don't need you to understand how I'm both friends with Ye | ||
| and both friends with Marista Straight. | ||
| I wanna say one final thought as we start to wrap this up. | ||
| I've known Crowder for a while. | ||
| He's always been really nice to me. | ||
| I've been on his show several times. | ||
| And I like the guy, I think he does important work. | ||
| I also know Jeremy Boring. | ||
| And in all of the business dealings that I've done with a bunch of companies, the best was with Jeremy | ||
| despite the fact we did not come to any formal transactional understanding. | ||
| It just doesn't make sense. | ||
| But I think the conversation was an important one to have because we're exploring how can we do better by everything that's going on. | ||
| We want to win the culture war. | ||
| I do think Jeremy's a good dude. | ||
| You know, I've talked with people at big companies, obviously I've talked with Vice, I've talked with Fusion, I've talked with a bunch of other big New York media, and they all, you walk out every time going, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| When I went to the Daily Wire and was talking with Jeremy, it was like, it was fun. | ||
| It was hanging out, talking, brainstorming, and we ultimately decided that there's probably nothing we could do, but we'll do non-transactional things, like the Times Square billboard stuff. | ||
| Since then, there have been periods where I've talked with Jeremy and like, hey, look, we're a small company. | ||
| We've had these problems. | ||
| And he's like, oh, yeah, you know, he's giving me like free advice without question, just seriously helping another company, which arguably is a competitor. | ||
| And so I think Jeremy is a great dude. | ||
| So it's really hard for me. | ||
| I'm like, I don't want everybody fighting. | ||
| I don't think Daily Wire is a bad company. | ||
| I don't think Steam Crowd is a bad dude. | ||
| I think there's an ideological disagreement. | ||
| It's really difficult. | ||
| I don't know how to solve the problem. | ||
| Yeah, but what's your gut instinct telling you? | ||
| Because I'm not going to let you be agnostic. | ||
| You've got the facts in front of you. | ||
| You're watching the videos. | ||
| What is your gut telling you about this situation? | ||
| It was wrong for Crowder to record Jeremy. | ||
| I'm shocked to see that he registered Stop Big Con a month before he recorded the phone call, which says that he's been planning this for some time. | ||
| I do think Stephen Crowder is ideologically motivated. | ||
| I don't think it's effective right now with what's going on to go after the Daily Wire when you have things like Disney and Netflix to be angry about. | ||
| The Daily Wire is producing stuff that I think is very important and good, notably the documentary you did on BLM, notably the documentary Matt Walsh did on What Is A Woman. | ||
| And so I'm just like, is this the appropriate thing to be doing? | ||
| I don't know if Crowder should be. | ||
| I do think that Crowder is right in that these contracts are not good for people starting up. | ||
| That being said, I do understand Brett Cooper is probably infinitely better off because of it. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| It's a difficult thing. | ||
| It's a difficult thing. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| I didn't know who Brett Cooper was and now I'm like, she's amazing. | ||
| Her show is so great. | ||
| And that video recording that Crowder has, I just heard it for the first time with this video. | ||
| Jeremy's right. | ||
| She's going to work for him. | ||
| And she's going to leave very famous. | ||
| And she's going to be worth millions of dollars after that fact. | ||
| I recognize that. | ||
| Luke told me a while ago, before I worked for Disney and had to do it, I said, yeah, but look, I worked for them for a couple of years. | ||
| I get paid a lot of money. | ||
| I can invest in another company. | ||
| And I ended up doing that. | ||
| And I had a really bad experience really, really quickly. | ||
| But I did get paid enough money to start all of this. | ||
| So it's like, Maybe it's easy for me to say it. | ||
| I was like, don't join the Disney cult. | ||
| The Mickey Mouse is not good for you, Tim. | ||
| Don't do it. | ||
| The dark side's too strong. | ||
| Don't sell out to the corporations. | ||
| He can put himself in the presence of the emperor and still maintain the light. | ||
| But hey, Disney owns Star Wars, so easy. | ||
| But this is my aversion to these contracts. | ||
| It was two years where the company instantly went woke and it locks you up. | ||
| And I'm like, so I think my ultimate view is I don't think Crowder should be waging this in a way that's damaging to the Daily Wire, but I do think he should be leading a charge in changing the business landscape of the space, and then, you know, there's a net positive way to do it. | ||
| I would have thought you would have been bigger and better if you didn't sign with Disney. | ||
| You would have been on your own, and you would have been two years ahead of where you are now. | ||
| That's entirely possible. | ||
| And that's why I was like, don't do it! | ||
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No! | |
| Imagine if I just started doing this show instead of going and working there, being stuck for two years. | ||
| I think your experience inside the belly of the beast is invaluable. | ||
| But hey, I had nowhere to sleep. | ||
| Whose couch would I be sleeping on when you were covering all those crazy protests, right? | ||
| I needed a couch, so I'm happy that happened. | ||
| You know, what I'll say is, my view of it is this. | ||
| I think the Daily Wire is going to be a media enterprise and it's going to look like you're gonna see two hot rods. | ||
| One's got a pride flag on it, one's got a Gadsden flag on it. | ||
| They're both hot rods. | ||
| Okay, me, I'm not a hot rod guy, I don't drive those things. | ||
| I'm gonna get my electric motorbike or a moped or something. | ||
| I don't got beef with people who are driving a hot rod. | ||
| But, you know, I'd rather hang out with the guys that got the Gadsden flag thing. | ||
| Am I gonna buy the car? | ||
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No. | |
| Am I gonna, you know, pay to drive around in it? | ||
| No. | ||
| But I think it's cool that you got it, and I'd rather that than the other one, you know what I mean? | ||
| So, that being said, I'm just looking at a mathematical formula. | ||
| If The Daily Wire succeeds, is it good for us? | ||
| 100% yes, absolutely. | ||
| Is it the system I would build? | ||
| No, it's absolutely not. | ||
| But I like The Daily Wire, you know what I mean? | ||
| I watch Disney stuff, I stop subscribing. | ||
| I don't have a Netflix subscription either. | ||
| I don't fault people for wanting entertainment. | ||
| We have to build the machine we want to see, and then people can leave. | ||
| So if Crowder, in my opinion, wants to make something where he thinks he can do better | ||
| contracts, my approach, if I was him, would be, guys, I tried doing a deal with these | ||
| companies, I think their deals are bad, I understand, they produce content that's probably | ||
| good, here's what I'm going to do. | ||
| I'm going to make a machine that's better, I'm going to do better contracts for you. | ||
| Quite literally, that is what I'm doing. | ||
| That's all, that's literally all he had to say. | ||
| But let's go to the members only section because we've got to talk about so much. | ||
| So, thanks so much for hanging out. | ||
| I know it's contentious. | ||
| There's people like Crowder's right, EW's right, but we'll have Crowder on the show Monday and then he'll lay out his case and his view of everything. | ||
| Smash the like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends. | ||
| We're going to go to TimCast.com. | ||
| Talk uncensored, members only. | ||
| So again, go to TimCast.com, click the join us button and we'll see you over there. | ||
| You can follow the show at TimCast IRL. | ||
| You can follow me at TimCast. | ||
| Candice, do you want to shout anything out? | ||
| Just my podcast. | ||
| I feel like that's appropriate. | ||
| I'm very proud of what we're doing. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| We explore all of these topics. | ||
| I'm obviously very passionate about against vaccines. | ||
| I'm very passionate about the corruption of the CIA. | ||
| I'm very passionate about all the WWF stuff, the globalists. | ||
| Actually, everything that you were talking about is what my podcast is about. | ||
| I usually don't talk about conservative infighting. | ||
| I do try to stay out of it. | ||
| And then just to say to people, please don't think everything is a conspiracy. | ||
| Don't think that every person is selling out. | ||
| We're never going to win if your perspective is that one simple thing that you don't understand means that somebody has sold out or one simple agreement that you have Please don't think that every single person has the same opinion. | ||
| At The Daily Wire, I'm still the exact same person that you invested in, your timing, when you hit the share button. | ||
| Back when I was red pill black, nothing has changed. | ||
| I'm just a mom now. | ||
| I have two kids. | ||
| And I don't agree with everything that The Daily Wire does, but this time, I didn't do anything wrong. | ||
| Hey, what's the best place for people to get the podcast? | ||
| Apple, Spotify, wherever you listen. | ||
| You can watch the show on YouTube as well if you want to watch it every single day. | ||
| I think the YouTube channel they started for me is Candace Owens Pod. | ||
| I also have my own YouTube channel, which is separate. | ||
| And yeah, I run my social media accounts. | ||
| My Instagram, my Twitter are not controlled by The Daily Wire. | ||
| I like that conspiracy. | ||
| And I'm still friends with everybody. | ||
| So for people that think that, oh, she forgot her, look, it's nope. | ||
| Still friends with every single person whose shows I've been on. | ||
| I don't have beef in this movement. | ||
| Because people that are chill with me, I have nothing bad to say about them, even if other people hate them. | ||
| What's your Twitter really quickly? | ||
| At real Candace O, only because Candace was taken and it's never been tweeted from. | ||
| So Elon Musk, hear my cry, release all of the unused handles and give me at Candace. | ||
| I had to shoot my shot. | ||
| I had to shoot my shot. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Maybe I'll talk to him later. | ||
| Anyway, my website is LukeUncensored.com. | ||
| LukeUncensored.com is my website. | ||
| I am fully independent and you can support me there. | ||
| I go off into the deep, deep, deep, deep down the rabbit hole on a lot of crazy stuff, a lot of solutions, a lot of ways to not be victims of the state. | ||
| LukeUncensored.com is the website. | ||
| See you there. | ||
| And Ian Arthur Clarsland! | ||
| That's me! | ||
| Are you working out with me tomorrow? | ||
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No. | |
| Come on! | ||
| I'm in! | ||
| I'm trying to start a fight. | ||
| I'm trying to do like some kickboxing with Ian. | ||
| Trying to start a fight? | ||
| No, like a fight club, like a nice one. | ||
| I just did 20 push-ups before the show, though. | ||
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I feel ripped, dude. | |
| I'm getting big. | ||
| That's my plan for 2023. | ||
| What I do is I post it on Twitter and then I pin it, what I'm going to do that year. | ||
| And then every time I go on Twitter, I see my resolution and I'm reminded this year I'm building muscle. | ||
| I do a kickboxing. | ||
| I'm like, we got to do this, Ian. | ||
| Let's do this. | ||
| I work out every morning, 4.30am. | ||
| Oh, that's awesome. | ||
| I got no one to work out with me. | ||
| Powerful. | ||
| I got no one to work out with me. | ||
| Dude, I'm in. | ||
| I wanted to clarify, we talked about the ozone layer and things that were ripping it open in the 80s and 90s. | ||
| It was CFCs, you were right. | ||
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CFCs. | |
| Chlorofluorocarbons, different than PFCs, which are polyfluorocarbons. | ||
| Yeah, those are plastics that are destroying the air. | ||
| Yeah, and the chlorofluorocarbons were in like hairspray and stuff. | ||
| So we got rid of a lot of that. | ||
| But I think the ozone, well, let's just talk about this stuff. | ||
| It's getting late. | ||
| Let's get going. | ||
| Serge, love you, man. | ||
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Yo, love you too, Ian. | |
| My name is atstars.com. | ||
| I was on the podcast, the, uh, what is it called? | ||
| Pop culture podcast, pop culture crisis. | ||
| We did speak about Alec Baldwin as well. | ||
| Um, went kind of deep with that, but, uh, yeah, that's just fun. | ||
| I forgot to mention it yesterday. | ||
| So shout out pop culture price crisis. | ||
| Uh, yeah. | ||
| Ready for the after show. | ||
| All right, everybody. | ||
| We will see you all over at TimCast.com. | ||
| We post the Uncensored Members Only to the front page around 10.50, 11 p.m. | ||
| We'll probably go a little bit later because we went late for this one, but we'll see you all there. |
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