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Dec. 14, 2022 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Timcast IRL - Biden EXPLODES Over Being Called Old, Starts Cussing w/Riley Moore & Phil Labonte
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tim pool
You know, there's a lot of depressing news out there and we were trying to figure out
what the lead of this show is going to be.
You got the Carrie Lake election contest lawsuit has advanced, the judge had a trial date.
You got TikTok, a pair of lawmakers, bipartisan, plus Rubio, they want to ban it in the United States, so this is bipartisan.
You got Elon Musk, they put out this story saying they haven't paid rent.
In weeks?
Which means what?
Like, oh no, I haven't paid my mortgage in a month.
Yeah, well that's how it works.
You pay it every month, so.
I don't know what that story is, but I needed a good laugh today.
I needed to have fun.
We needed to laugh.
And there's this story where Joe Biden, who's 80 years old, explodes cussing, saying, you think I don't know how effing old I am!
Yelling because they're like, bro, you're too old.
You can't run for president 2024, but he's gonna do it anyway.
So, um, you know, we can we can laugh at that, I guess.
Joe Biden exploding and getting angry about it.
There's a lot to talk about.
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And I will also add that next week we will be in Phoenix.
We're gonna be doing the show live with Turning Point USA.
So it may be We got to figure out exactly how it's going to go down.
It may be earlier than we normally do the show, because we're going to be on stage at the event.
And we're going to have different guests come in and out.
It'll be a whole lot of fun.
And then we'll be in Phoenix for that week.
And then Christmas.
So I think we might be off after Christmas, because literally nobody wants to travel and work between Christmas and New Year's.
So we'll see what happens.
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We've got a couple of guests joining us to talk about this and so much more.
Riley Moore.
riley moore
Thanks for having me.
tim pool
Who are you, good sir?
riley moore
I am the state treasurer of West Virginia, and I'm also a candidate for Congress in 2024 in the great state of West Virginia.
tim pool
Right on.
You also skate better than Beto O'Rourke?
riley moore
That is a fact.
And if somehow this is able to transmit over to him, I will play him in a game of skate anywhere, anytime.
He can't win elections, and he certainly cannot win a game of skate against Yeah, but in all fairness, like, we were just downstairs at the mini-ramp and you're actually doing a bunch of tricks.
tim pool
You did, like, a fakie pivot rock and, like, kickflips and stuff.
Beto, like, rides on the board and acts like he's cool, so.
It's just, it's just, it's just punching down, you know, so.
Yeah.
But Phil's back, too.
phil labonte
Hi, everybody!
I am, uh...
Phil Labonte, I sing for the heavy metal band All That Remains.
I am here to enjoy the wonderful Maryland air and I'm here to be loud with Luke and Tim and hang out with Riley so we can dunk on loser Beto.
And Biden!
Yeah, you know, I'm so happy we decided to go with the Biden is old story.
tim pool
Reality.
phil labonte
Don't you know?
luke rudkowski
I haven't heard that one before.
phil labonte
Don't you think I know how old I am?
riley moore
First of all, I don't believe that he knows.
tim pool
The answer is no!
phil labonte
We don't think so!
tim pool
We got Luke chillin'.
luke rudkowski
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unidentified
Because you guys buy these shirts, that's why I'm here, thank you so Thank you very much for having me.
What was that?
luke rudkowski
Yates going to be angry.
Yates going to be pissed.
tim pool
Was that Afrikaans?
unidentified
Yeah, I'm just saying good to be on the podcast again.
tim pool
Ah, cool.
unidentified
Good to be back.
tim pool
There you go, man.
All right, here's the first story we have from the Daily Mail.
I don't know, Phil, do you want to just read the headline?
phil labonte
No!
unidentified
We think you don't have any idea how old you are, old man!
phil labonte
You think I don't know how fucking old I am?
Joe Biden, 80, says.
tim pool
Vents to allies about how he's fed up with fixation on his age as Democrats speculate if he will run for president in 2024.
This one actually is really funny.
Biden turned 80 in November.
He'd be 82 years old if he wins and takes office in 2025.
He is already the oldest man ever elected president.
I'm pretty sure if Trump wins, he would also be the oldest president ever elected.
So I guess this is just where we're at.
What is this?
Look, I guess maybe we just want to rag on Joe Biden a little bit, but the question I have is Why is it that old people are clinging to power like this, and where are the younger people to cling it back and actually start leading?
I guess you're running, Riley, you're younger.
riley moore
Yeah, look, I... Younger than Biden, but... Yeah, most people alive are, yeah.
You know, for me, look, I won this office as state treasurer from an older guy.
He'd been in office for 24 years, was elected in 1996.
Look, that's what we ran on.
I ran on modernizing the office, changing the office, bringing it into this century, which he was like, I did modernize the office in 1996.
We got the internet.
Did he really say that?
luke rudkowski
Yes.
phil labonte
Bless his heart.
That's all you can say is that poor man.
riley moore
But, you know, to your point, them clinging to power, I'm the first Republican elected in West Virginia as state treasurer in 92 years.
And this is West Virginia.
And it's, you know, people just clinging on to power.
tim pool
The first elected?
riley moore
First Republican elected in 92 years.
First Republican elected in 92 years.
It does take this generation stepping up and taking some risks.
That was a risk for me.
I'm taking the risk here to run for Congress in 24.
And yeah, I mean, it just takes this generation to just step up and do something about it.
Because if you don't, I mean, if you don't keep taking shots at kind of the establishment class, it will continue to persist.
tim pool
We do have Ocasio-Cortez.
unidentified
She's young.
luke rudkowski
She's millennial.
phil labonte
Do you count as a millennial or are you a Gen X?
riley moore
Because I'm Gen X. I think I'm right on the border.
phil labonte
42 you said?
luke rudkowski
Yeah.
riley moore
So 1980, and depending what the internet says, sometimes I'm Gen X, sometimes I'm Millennial.
tim pool
I think they call it Zennial.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Ian's the same age.
phil labonte
I just wonder if people that are Gen X, generally we've kind of been fairly the aloof and detached generation.
People didn't hear a whole lot about Gen X.
Millennials kind of stormed onto the scene before people started paying attention to Gen X. It was like, everyone was complaining about the Boomers, we were kind of just quietly, you know, existing, and then the Millennials came and were just like, PAY ATTENTION TO ME!
And, uh, the, you know, Gen X is kind of like...
And I wonder if that kind of attitude of being aloof has kept Gen X away from trying to be in government?
This is kind of, I guess, spitballing year, I think?
tim pool
Gen X is like the forgotten generation.
Everyone's mad at boomers and disgusted by millennials, and Gen X is just like, we're here too, guys.
We exist.
riley moore
I just go to work every day, you know?
tim pool
That's the thing, like, whenever I bring up boomer stuff, I'll say, like, you know, the boomers did this good, did this bad, and then millennials are doing this.
I get a bunch of comments where they're like, Tim, I'm Gen X, we exist.
And I'm like, I know, I know, it's just there's not really much to say because you're doing all right.
phil labonte
Yeah.
riley moore
Right.
tim pool
It's like, you got some good music, you're running some companies, you're not doing horrible things boomers are doing, you didn't make Star Trek The Next Generation, but you maybe worked on it with the boomers, but you're also not a bunch of woke psychopaths for the most part.
So I'm chill with Gen X. I think they're cool people.
phil labonte
For the most part, Chenex has been fairly benign and inoffensive, aside from the fact that... Stop generalizing and collectivizing!
luke rudkowski
I just want to bring it back to this original story here, because Biden still thinks he's in charge here?
Obviously, clearly, there's bigger powers above him that do call the shots here, but we have to consider that With the way that the Democratic Party is shaping up and even sources coming out through the corporate media saying that he's going to announce his bid for the presidency after this holiday season there's a big chance that he actually might run and he might win especially with the way that the Democrats have been fortifying elections I think it's
It's very clear, more than ever, that we could have a second Biden administration, especially with the advancements of technology, especially with how useful he has been to the current ruling class that has been using him in order to push on the most unpopular policies ever on humanity, especially with the way that they have played out destroying domestic energy.
And I could go on and on and on, but it's a deliberate action.
I think he's there for a reason, and I think he might be there for the next six years.
phil labonte
Luke, you're exciting the doomers.
luke rudkowski
Hey, I'm being real here.
tim pool
Hold on.
Remember the photo where Biden had the IV track marks or whatever?
They're cranking him full of whatever they can.
luke rudkowski
He's on stem cells, young people, baby blood probably.
They do it in Mexico.
Don't joke here.
This is not crazy stuff.
They literally do this stuff in some places around the world.
Some people might say adrenochrome, some people might say... Hey, okay, that's another level.
riley moore
Antifreeze!
luke rudkowski
Breast stone!
But the stem cells and the young people blood is not out of the realm of possibility here.
tim pool
We've got to slow down a little bit.
You said baby blood and adrenochrome.
Hold on!
luke rudkowski
I said some people might say adrenochrome.
I said baby blood.
tim pool
Okay, but it's probably what we have heard is these stories where powerful elites hire like 19-year-old bodybuilders to do blood transfusions every other week.
unidentified
Blood boys?
tim pool
Is that what they're called?
unidentified
I mean, that's the joking term in Silicon Valley.
tim pool
Right, right.
You know, so I don't know what they're cranking Biden full of, but we saw the IV marks.
He's an old guy.
At the very least, he's getting like a vitamin drip.
A vitamin drip?
Yeah, once a week, they hook up the IV and they give him, you know, vitamin C, vitamin B, all that stuff.
luke rudkowski
Listen, they bring in Abrinobrovimic, right?
They close in the room, they start getting all the liquids from all the human bodily orifices, and then they start summoning the entities, and then they...
this probably really happens and they probably are like keep him in power he's too good for us
and the demons are like okay yes we'll do this translated that's probably what's happening
tim pool
translated translated in english what really happens he flies back to delaware a lot
he probably is going there so they can bring in doctors that they don't track
The doctor then brings a vitamin drip, IV bag, maybe NAD.
If you watch Joe Rogan, you know exactly what's going on.
And they're probably stem cells, definitely.
Stem cells is actually like, I don't want to say common.
phil labonte
I want to submit one quick idea before I let you on.
I don't think you're right because I believe all that stuff that you're talking about works and Joe Biden doesn't.
luke rudkowski
Fair point!
But at a certain age, though, I mean, there's only so much you could do to fix the system, right?
You could keep him up and running.
But, you know, with the way that things are going and the way that truly things are run in our political system, why wouldn't he have a body double?
Why wouldn't the body double be in there when he's so convenient for the ruling class?
I mean, I think that's worth speculating on.
I don't have any proof.
I don't have any evidence of this.
But if the president of Venezuela has a body double, why wouldn't the U.S.
president have a body double?
tim pool
No, I definitely agree with that.
There was like that viral photo of Hillary Clinton that everyone said wasn't really Hillary Clinton, and I'm like, I don't know, I'm not gonna get in it, but she did not look like Hillary Clinton.
If you're a powerful military-involved or state official, yeah, I really doubt the U.S.
would not give you a body double.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, Kim Jong-un has a couple of them, right?
Who in the United States doesn't have a couple of them?
Come on.
phil labonte
I want all that to be true.
I don't know that I believe it, but it's a much cooler story than, like, not having body doubles.
I don't know that I have seen any kind of evidence that would lead me to believe that, but I mean, there's a lot of things that the government has done that I would not have believed.
tim pool
Riley's got, like, two or three body doubles.
riley moore
Yeah, that's right.
tim pool
West Virginia State Treasurer.
riley moore
I need one to come in and do a 360 flip for me later.
That's right.
But the thing is, though, for the left, he is the best candidate.
He's the greatest candidate they could have because he believes in essentially whatever they tell him to believe in.
phil labonte
Yeah, he's an empty vessel.
riley moore
And all he's ever wanted his life, in his entire life, was to be president.
He's ran several times.
He's there.
This is the retirement gig.
And talking about millennials, well, the White House is chock full of them.
And they are running the show.
Every left-wing thing that you can think of has been pushed forward by this administration.
I mean, it makes almost like the Obama administration look like a moderate administration compared to what's happening right now in the Biden administration.
tim pool
We had that viral video of the biggest caravan ever to cross the southern border.
And it's just, it's kind of crazy to me that you can be politely and calmly saying something like, hey, it's really bad that there's a bunch of kids living under a bridge and dying in the desert and being trafficked and young girls being raped and coyotes in black market, and just nothing happens.
phil labonte
There are more important things going on.
He literally said that.
Are you going to go to the border?
No, because there's more important things going on.
luke rudkowski
I just want to finish my point.
So why wouldn't they keep this kind of show running when it's so beneficial to them?
And second, I met someone that looks exactly like me, and I was like, I need your number.
Hold on, I might need you in the future.
And if I'm thinking this way, what is the U.S.
federal government thinking about?
I mean, you look at Face Off, you look at the advancements in plastic surgery, artificial intelligence, anything.
Face Off the movie?
Yes, you look at...
tim pool
Hey, hey, hey, anything!
luke rudkowski
I'm saying, anything is possible here.
You bring in Obama, you do an operation, I mean...
phil labonte
I want to say that it's silly, but if you go and you read history about the things that the CIA has actually tried
and attempted, they'll try anything.
luke rudkowski
FDR was incapacitated.
FDR was not able to rule.
His wife was ruling with the special interests, with the people behind him.
They were making all the decisions.
unidentified
He couldn't even make any decisions on his own.
tim pool
Reagan's brain was gone.
luke rudkowski
Exactly!
So this happened before.
Why wouldn't it happen now?
Why wouldn't it happen during a second administration?
It's like, you know, that vacation movie with Bernie.
What's his name?
tim pool
Weekend at Bernie's.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, it's like Weekend at Bernie's 2.
They made a second version.
So there's a big likelihood that there's going to be another version of this.
riley moore
Do you think there's any point where he's brought some issue or policy and he says no?
tim pool
I mean by his staff? Yes, yes, but they probably, he probably tries to say no and goes,
and then they're just lying, it's good. He like, they take his hand with the rubber stamp and he's
unidentified
like, and then they stamp yes, and he's like, I can't do anything about it. I don't think that,
phil labonte
I don't think he has any care about any of the policies that are being presented at all.
tim pool
You know, they put him, they put him in a fake office, remember?
He was at a sound stage and they had screens behind him and they're like, that's right, you're the president, and he's like... Yeah, I don't think he does.
phil labonte
I think that...
You know, there's not a whole lot of argument that, you know, decisions are being made without Biden's input.
You know, most people think that the chief of staff and other people in the administration are actually making the day-to-day calls.
And then the overall broad policy decisions are not being made by Joe Biden because the overall broad policy decisions are kind of baked into the philosophy that the left has now.
You know, it's like you kind of can predict What the policy positions they're going to be looking for, the things that the activists are asking for, the people in positions of power are doing their best to deliver to the activists.
tim pool
I just got to make sure people know, whenever I say something crazy, I got to pull up a source, because I remember we had one time That Luke mentioned Bill Gates was creating computer chips to implant in people to stop them from getting pregnant.
And I was like, oh, come on, Luke!
And then we googled it and it was true.
So we have this from the New York Post.
Biden mocked for Truman show presidency over fake White House set.
That's right.
They put Biden in a set with TV screens as fake windows and they put different things on the back.
That's what they're doing to this man.
I just want to make sure everybody knows that actually happened.
luke rudkowski
That we know of.
riley moore
They do just, you know, they're going to keep rolling him out.
And if you go flashback to Biden 20 years ago, Biden 30 years ago, whatever it is.
phil labonte
Different guy.
riley moore
Different guy.
Policies were very, very different.
Now he's abortion with no limits whatsoever.
But in a not too distant past, that's not where he was.
luke rudkowski
They have a fake White House set.
Why wouldn't they have a fake White House president?
Right?
I'm surprised they didn't work with Disney and started one of the rides where it's like you know one of the rides in Disney where you just kind of sit there and then the theater kind of moves like here's now the President of the United States and you get the AI generated hologram puppet coming out there.
phil labonte
That's literally something that could be conceivable and could be happening right now especially because when you look at military technology it is usually 30 years ahead of what the United States and the General The thing that we're kind of saying is it doesn't matter if Joe Biden has a body double or not because Joe Biden isn't making the calls anyways.
So if it's Joe Biden or a body double of Joe Biden, it doesn't matter because we've already kind of agreed that the chief of staff at the White House is making the calls and the actual direction the left is going is going that way without Joe Biden and Joe Biden's just along for the ride.
riley moore
How many times has he said something publicly and then they come out and correct it?
tim pool
Exactly.
riley moore
I mean, multiple times.
tim pool
That's why I don't think, we've argued this before, people are like, he's clearly not making the call, someone's doing it for him, and I'm like, no, no, no, I think he is, but they're just shrugging and then doing random things.
So when he goes out on TV and says a thing, They have to come out and correct him.
Now, think about what happens behind closed doors.
He's telling them what to do, and then they're doing whatever they want.
So, I don't think they're going to Biden and saying, Biden, you're going to tell people to do this, and he goes, okay.
I think they go in and Biden goes, all right, here's what we're going to do.
We're going to do this, that, that, and they're like, you got it, and they walk out and say, what are you guys going to do?
I'm going to do something else.
riley moore
Yeah, and I think they do have to, and they've been trying to do this.
They're trying to manage him better.
I mean, do you remember when he came out and said, red line with Taiwan, China invades Taiwan, we're showing up?
And they're like, oh, hey, timeout.
Here's actually what he meant.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Or when he said, they're going to get mad at me if I read this or ask questions or whatever.
It's like, who's they?
Who's the president?
phil labonte
Just like you said, this is all evidence that he isn't the guy in charge.
That there are other people that will correct the president.
Now that's not the way it's supposed to be, but it doesn't matter if it's him or a body double or whatever, considering that is the open and kind of obvious state of affairs, regardless of whether people approve of it or not.
I mean, it doesn't matter if people that like Biden don't like the fact that Biden doesn't make the calls.
Everyone knows Biden doesn't make the calls.
Pardon my French.
luke rudkowski
It's not just that.
It's when he starts to understand, like, oh, here's the media.
Let me talk to them.
They literally whisk him away.
There's a video of an Easter Bunny appearing, grabbing Joe Biden, whisking him away when he was starting to talk about Afghanistan, knowing Oh crap, he can't talk to the media.
Fox News, Easter Bunny whisks Biden away as he starts discussing Afghanistan video.
That's a real thing that happened, and literally we are having hired actors, Easter Bunnies, acting like the media liaisons, making sure that the President of the United States does not get to openly speak with the press and the media.
You can't script this stuff!
tim pool
Look at this video, let's play it.
What's he doing?
unidentified
Oh, the Easter Bunny.
luke rudkowski
Literally whisked him away.
Like, no, not happening.
That is crazy.
Who's in charge?
It's not Joe Biden.
phil labonte
That should get played every time that Joe Biden speaks.
That should be played right afterwards.
So everyone knows exactly what the score is.
riley moore
And all you could kind of make out was, like, Pakistan, Afghanistan, and they're like, did he say Pakistan?
Easter Bunny, why don't you get over there?
tim pool
The Easter Bunny's standing there, and like, looking around, and then, you know, the CIA guy is like, or FBI, the President's going off script!
Bring in the Easter Bunny!
And the Easter Bunny's like, copy, copy!
And the Easter Bunny, like, goes in, waving, and... But for real, that's probably what happens!
phil labonte
That's literally what happens!
tim pool
Someone had to tell the Easter Bunny to go and stop him from speaking to people.
riley moore
Can you imagine in his mind, he's like, God, these people are everywhere!
luke rudkowski
He's like, I finally got away.
I finally could speak to the press.
I finally get to say something.
No, the Easter Bunny comes in.
tim pool
You guys ever watch like Mr. Magoo?
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Where he's like blindly bumbling about and then he like walks on the I-beam and gets lifted up and then walks.
Like we need something like that of Biden.
I mean, it's like the CIA being like, oh, he's on the move.
phil labonte
I mean, you could just take Biden's face and put it onto an existing cartoon of Mr. Magoo doing all that stuff and it would fit fine.
riley moore
I've always been a fan of the ghost handshakes.
unidentified
Thank you.
tim pool
It's funny because I feel like, I always reference, what was it?
What was the movie where the person's riding the gravity bomb down like, yeah, it goes out of the plane or whatever?
riley moore
Strangelove.
tim pool
That's what it kind of feels like, you know, we're sitting here laughing about what Biden is.
We're like, ah, it's so funny!
And it's like, everything's on fire, and we're just laughing about how funny it is.
It's like, maybe we should be, I don't know.
I guess, what can you do?
You can laugh about it.
phil labonte
You can laugh or you cry.
Yeah, I'm not gonna cry about it.
unidentified
100%.
phil labonte
There's a lot of people that, you know, get upset about things that they read and stuff, and it's like, look, you can be angry about it, but it's not gonna change it.
Like, you getting upset about something that you saw on the internet isn't gonna change the conditions in the world one bit.
And I mean, like, I'm not super stoic, but I do follow stoicism pages, and that's one of the things that stoics talk about.
Only let the things that you can actually change affect you, and let the things that you can't change, just try not to let them ruin your day, because you can't do anything about them.
tim pool
I think you want to just focus on building your skills.
Learn some outdoors kind of stuff.
I'm not telling you to become a prepper survivalist.
I'm saying, you know, learn how to make a fire.
luke rudkowski
I'm saying become a prepper survivalist.
I'm saying with the way things are going, and especially with what the Pope has been saying, especially with the way that everything is moving, become a survivalist.
riley moore
What did the Pope say?
luke rudkowski
The Pope said that he had an omen of even greater destruction and dissolution for mankind.
phil labonte
I want to say that I was raised Catholic, and as far as I know, Catholics getting omens is some demonic kind of stuff that is like heresy, or like that's blasphemy.
I don't think that Catholics are supposed to be getting omens.
That's like messages.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, well this is the LGBTQI woke pro-immigration Pope as well.
phil labonte
Well, that's a weird Catholic, but you know.
unidentified
Woke Pope.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, he's the Woke Pope.
So, um, but again, I don't think his assessment is wrong, especially if you look at how international relations are shaping up, especially when you look at the larger financial picture, especially when you look at the overall health and population decline and crash that's coming.
I think he's absolutely right on the money saying you guys should prepare.
You guys should be smart.
You guys should be making Have you guys watched the show The Peripheral?
becoming the strongest, best versions of yourselves because you will be tested.
And hard times are ahead of us.
There's no denying this because we are having too many weak men creating really bad times.
Those bad times are going to be upon us very soon.
tim pool
Have you guys watched the show The Peripheral?
riley moore
I have.
tim pool
So it's like, they call it the jackpot when all of the problems that everyone's talking
about happen all at once basically over the span of a few years.
And I think they were saying it starts in 2028 with the Texas secessionist movement or something.
Obviously, they're being inspired by the news and stuff we're seeing today, but it was interesting to see nonetheless.
That maybe there's some kind of potential there that the fourth turning suggests 2028 is the crescendo or whatever.
It may be 2026 because 2028 is when it's supposed to stop or something like that, or who knows?
I don't know if those predictions are completely true.
It's just people have ideas.
But considering what we're seeing around us, I'm seeing every so often you'll get some commenter or commentator be like, oh, you know what?
I realize things aren't really that bad.
And then you see, like, Project Veritas expose a school for passing around adult toys to children, and then, politically, people, like, the school is actively defending it, saying it's okay, and I'm like, alright, you know, that's the demonic stuff.
When you're at the point where the school is like, you know what, we're not even gonna try and hide it anymore, we're gonna outright just defend it, outright defend it, it's like, We're off the line.
We're over the cliff.
We are free falling at this point.
So, I don't feel like 2026 is too big an ask to say that's when things, you know, pop up.
I'm not saying literally ask.
I'm saying it's not too far-fetched to believe.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, absolutely.
Absolutely not.
I mean, I started my own prepper apocalypse class online.
I started doing them in New Hampshire.
And a lot of people were really interested in it.
Because I think, you know, even if it's not, you know, political disasters, I mean, the chances of natural disasters are also out there, the chances of just something bad happening is always out there, no matter what being prepared for it makes you not only Have peace of mind, but also has you ready for almost anything coming your way.
And I think this is the kind of mentality that could actually safeguard us a lot of stress, have us not freak out, have us not lose our ish.
But also, more importantly, go back to nature and understand the importance of personal responsibility, taking care of ourselves and not needing a government to step in and have a food delivery or water purification delivery system.
But having that in place already Where if times do get really hard, you won't need more government, you will need more space, you will need more freedom.
And I think once we incentivize that and start pushing those larger ideas out there, society by and large will become better because of that.
riley moore
Well, and that's actually an interesting part of the show, right?
Kind of post-jackpot.
It's massive, massive government control, right?
I mean, they're controlling, I mean, literally what people think, what happens in society.
And, I mean, to your point on the prepper side, and this is something I've been working on in the state treasurer's office, I'm sure you've seen these MCC codes they're putting in place for credit cards now to be able to track the purchase of guns and ammunition around the country.
This is a back door National gun registry.
And this was pushed by Elizabeth Warren and the rest.
So if you are buying guns right now, pay cash or check.
But this is something that we're going to have legislation on in January in West Virginia.
Hopefully other states are replicated.
And it's actually not the credit card companies that want to track this.
It's the banks.
The banks want to track it.
And then the banks are going to be able to say, oh, we're going to flag this.
We're going to flag that.
tim pool
So you're saying that I got a Discover card for no reason?
Uh, as soon as the news came out that was like Visa and MasterCard, I was like, I'm going to apply for a Discover card.
We're going to use it for business stuff.
Yeah, I got one.
I got it right here.
I'm holding it.
riley moore
I don't want to show it because it's a credit card.
I mean, it is, you know, Visa and MasterCard.
I mean, they're held to the whims of these banks.
And it was Big Bank in New York that have been pushing this.
And it has like some anodyne name.
I think it's the International Organization on Standardization or something like that.
phil labonte
One of the good things about the gun culture is the people that tend to be selling guns and firearms and stuff like that, they're usually very open to cash.
Sometimes they're open to barter even, but definitely open to cash.
tim pool
Or 3D printed guns.
Do it yourself.
phil labonte
That'll work too.
I mean, yeah, there's nothing wrong with printing guns.
Buy the parts that aren't serialized through mail order or whatever.
And then, you know, when it comes to the actual receiver or whatever...
tim pool
Yeah, just make sure, because I think, what was it, the ATF was cracking down on the... What was it called?
Well, there was like, you could buy a kit, where it's like, all the stuff that you legally have to have tracked is tracked, and then you can assemble it yourself, but they're like 80% kits or something like that, and then the ATF started claiming that you couldn't do it, and started going after people.
phil labonte
You can buy a whole rifle except for the lower receiver, which is the part that's serialized that has the gun.
So you have everything, the upper receiver, all of the pins and everything you need.
You can buy that without any kind of background check or anything like that.
And then you can either print a lower receiver or you can buy...
luke rudkowski
It depends on what state you're in as well, because there's a lot of state jurisdictions out there where you will get in trouble for it.
So make sure you always look up the local laws and jurisdictions to make sure that you're not entrapping yourself or your friends or your buddies with some activities that you could be maybe bragging about on social media, which you shouldn't do.
phil labonte
What I was talking about was federal regulation, not state regulation.
riley moore
And I will point out in the state of West Virginia, there's not too much you can't do.
tim pool
That's right.
riley moore
In terms of guns.
tim pool
Constitutional carry?
luke rudkowski
Oh yeah.
Maryland's one of the few states that actually banned flamethrowers.
Which is insane!
Which is crazy.
And California.
tim pool
I guess they were worried about Baltimore and the DC burbs with people walking around with flamethrowers.
phil labonte
And if I understand correctly, the flamethrower in question, the one that Elon was selling, or that caused it, was actually the same kind of flamethrower they used for tarring roofs.
I guess that you have to have a thing to heat up the tar or something on a roof, and you'll use that to heat it up.
So it was an existing tool that Elon just put a market in, and they're like, oh, you can't have that because It's scary to me now.
riley moore
But, you know, I mean, to your point, though, I mean, some level of individual, I mean, independence out there.
I mean, I think it is important.
I mean, you know, we're talking about the banks and tracking the gun purchases.
They tried to put into that big bill, Green New Deal 2.0, was that tracking the $600 purchases or greater.
Uh, and they were going to legislate that.
Well, then the Biden administration just turned around and made that a rule.
unidentified
Yep.
riley moore
Right?
So that's a rule now.
And I mean, that is a tremendous amount of oversight.
So it was like, okay, we'll take that out of the bill.
We'll get the 87,000 new IRS agents into the bill.
And now we'll just make it a rule.
tim pool
So we started that segment talking about a big Easter bunny, and it's a ridiculous segue, but we have this from vice.com.
Elon Musk is now promoting QAnon.
They say, since 2018, the saying, follow the white rabbit, has become synonymous with QAnon.
Musk has tweeted a version of that.
What year? 2018.
Is that what I said?
So Elon Musk tweeted, follow and then a bunny emoji.
It's an Alice in Wonderland reference.
phil labonte
History started in 2018, though.
Well, of course.
tim pool
Yeah, I mean, that's when the simulation began.
We just have false memories and pined it in.
That's the only explanation.
So this is where we're currently at.
Let me put it this way.
Let this be a tremendous white pill.
The media is so desperate, so panicked, the corporate press is so panicked to go after Elon Musk, they have to take this follow a rabbit emoji, which could be a Matrix reference, and then try and claim he's promoting QAnon.
They may as well just say he started GamerGate at this point.
Yeah, GamerGate, that was Elon.
History started in 2018, like you were saying.
luke rudkowski
It's like they don't have nothing to attack him on, so they're just starting to make things up out of nowhere to generate clicks.
phil labonte
That is exactly the case.
riley moore
I mean, think if you're in their position.
This is like a nightmare scenario.
unidentified
Right?
riley moore
I mean, it's all... I mean, you've seen the Twitter files coming out and all that.
I mean, it's everything that we knew, but now it's obviously been substantiated through these Twitter files, and I mean, I'm sure they are freaking out.
Um, so yeah, I mean, they can throw anything at the ball that can stick.
tim pool
But does anybody buy this?
It's like just the insanity.
I mean, do they all know they're lying?
You're like every single one of these Twitter leftists.
They're like, yeah, that's right.
It's QAnon.
Like they have to know they're lying.
phil labonte
I imagine there's a portion of them that believe it, you know, just like there are a portion of on the right that believe whatever crazy thing, you know, anyone could come up with from the right.
But I think mostly it's a functional way to smear Elon Musk.
It's just, you know, spaceship man bad.
tim pool
Right now, because of this article, they're going to put it on his Wikipedia page.
He's a conspiracy theorist who promoted fringe theories, blah, blah, blah.
phil labonte
They'll go ahead, and it'll be idea laundering.
He puts up the white rabbit, so they say that it's QAnon, and then someone else will say it's QAnon, referencing that, just like they do idea laundering and reference each other.
And then next thing you know, it goes into his Wikipedia, and Elon Musk is then the QAnon That's a great saying.
luke rudkowski
Spaceman... Spaceshipmanbad.
tim pool
Spaceshipmanbad.
luke rudkowski
I like that.
I'm tweeting that.
tim pool
Take a look at this story.
This one's really, really funny.
Daily Mail says, breaking news, Twitter has stopped paying rent on San Francisco offices as Elon Musk considers not paying severance to axed employees.
Now, when you hear that, you're like, whoa, whoa, that's crazy.
Let me break it down for you.
It says, Twitter has allegedly not paid rent on its San Francisco headquarters or offices around the world for weeks.
It's been December for two weeks.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So he hasn't paid rent for weeks.
Yeah, because you pay on the first.
riley moore
I haven't either.
tim pool
Oh no.
I haven't paid my mortgage in a month because it's due at the end of the month.
It's like, oh, it's been three weeks.
This is the level of insanity for smearing Elon.
phil labonte
It doesn't matter if it's news or not.
It's just, can we make, can we create a narrative that sounds negative?
tim pool
It's so weird.
phil labonte
I mean, it's not that weird if you think, remember the way that any time a negative headline could be written about Trump, they did.
The Koy Pond thing, you know?
It's any time you can write a negative headline.
tim pool
They edited video footage to make that story, right?
So the Koy Pond thing, Trump is hanging out with Shinzo Abe, Abe dumps the food in, and then Trump goes, okay, and then dumps his in as well, but they zoom in so you only see Trump, and then said, ha ha, what an idiot, he threw all the food in.
And then when you look at the unedited video, you can see he was just following Shinzo Abe's lead and they made up a fake story.
But they actually tried to make up some decorum violation.
With this, it's just like, he hasn't paid rent in weeks!
And they all start saying it, and then I'm seeing this from everybody, they're like, in weeks?
Is he doing a weekly lease on his buildings?
He pays weekly?
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
What's your point?
I don't understand.
luke rudkowski
But Tim, you know, Trump was also bad because he had two scoops of ice cream.
If you remember that, I mean, that was some serious ethics violations right there.
And I think he also walked into some toilet paper.
I mean, that's a guy that needs to be stopped.
tim pool
And he had bigger salt and pepper shakers.
You see that?
That's amazing!
And there are people who say, to this day, Trump never denounced white supremacists and neo-Nazis.
phil labonte
I know that you're right, and it just blows my mind.
the the that the video of him saying that is out it exists it's out there and and it has been
put on the twitter saying oh he never condemned them in response so many times and they still
tim pool
oh he never did there are still people i meet where i say did you know that joe biden said
if you don't if you don't fire the prosecutor you're not getting a billion dollars they go
that never happened that absolutely happened It's a video!
unidentified
He says he did it!
riley moore
It's literally in a, like, think tank press conference.
luke rudkowski
Council on Foreign Relations with Richard Haass, the president of the Council on Foreign Relations, sitting there literally talking to him on record on video.
riley moore
And he's like, and people applaud.
tim pool
But Rachel Maddow said it wasn't real.
And so people just believe whatever she says without even bothering to look.
Yeah.
It's a crazy reality, man.
It's one of the contributing factors to my simulation theory.
There's no way a functioning sentient being would just be like, you know, I don't know if it's true, but it must be.
phil labonte
Do you know who, uh...
This is a bit of an off topic, but do you know who Adam and Sitch are?
They're YouTubers, they make, they do a stream show anyways.
They have this, they talk about this idea that most people basically have the existence of like an elephant and a rider, and the elephant is your emotion, and the rider is kind of your brain that like makes the actual decisions.
The rider can't really control, is still gonna do what it wants to do.
The fight or flight, like you can think, but if you're scared, you're gonna fight or flight.
The guy on top thinks he's in charge, but he's not really.
He's the writer.
He's actually kind of just the PR department explaining, rationalizing what the elephant did.
So really, most of our life is our cognitive ability rationalizing the emotional reactions that we have.
That's like most of our behavior all the time.
tim pool
Here's the crazy thing about this story is that 20 years ago, It would all just be true.
You'd have no way of checking it.
A newspaper would write, Elon Musk promotes fringe conspiracy theory.
And then you'd be like, must be true.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
That's it.
riley moore
That's right.
You mentioned Rachel Maddow, and we did talk about body doubles.
Is Chris Hayes her body double?
tim pool
No, Michael Knowles is.
phil labonte
We actually have a... Smokey Mike, right?
tim pool
Smokey Mike.
We have drawings of all of our guests.
And so when Michael Knowles came, Jessica, our artist here, drew Rachel Maddow first.
And so we were like, here, when you sign this picture of you and he hands it, he started laughing because it's a picture of Rachel.
He signed it!
We have it on the wall.
And then we were like, no, no, no, wait, there's a real one.
Sign the real picture.
The real picture's good.
But I am proud to say that MSNBC is rated as fake news by Newsguard.
phil labonte
I am not surprised at all, and they should be, absolutely.
tim pool
And I will say, I know it's not a silver bullet, but when you're visiting your family for Christmas or whatever, you can at the very least pull up on a browser, or I don't know if there's a mobile app, and be like, guys, I don't know what you believe or why, I'm not gonna argue with you, I just want you to know that NewsGuard says MSNBC is, beware, it's fake news, okay?
And they're gonna go, yeah, well, so is Fox News, and you can go, uh-huh.
Yeah, I don't know, whatever, I'm just telling you guys are watching weird conspiracy garbage.
I'm not here to tell you what's right or wrong, I'm telling you, be careful with the weird conspiracy stuff you're watching.
I was telling a friend of mine, he was like, my family just watches all this MSNBC and CNN, and I was like, here's what you do.
When you're talking, you say, I don't know about all that political stuff, if they start bringing it up, and be like, guys, you're listening to Alex Jones and all this stuff, and when they invariably get really, really angry because they hate Jones, what you're trying to do is conflate in their mind what they think of as conspiracy, In a way they understand it, and accusing them of doing exactly the same thing.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
So you just, like, I would play it off like, look, I don't know, Rachel Jones or whatever, it's that weird conspiracy garbage you're watching on the TV, there's that news guard thing, they said it was conspiracy stuff and you're watching it, and then let them get all flustered and just be like, I don't know, you guys go watch your weird alien stuff, your lizard people stuff, I'm not interested.
phil labonte
It makes me wish I had in-laws to go and upset.
luke rudkowski
And then when no one's watching, no one paying attention, secretly put on Died Suddenly, and then act like you didn't do it yourself.
But more importantly, especially with the holiday season, I think we should expand on this topic just a little bit before continuing on the conversation here.
But I think if you truly do want to understand somebody, you got to do it from an empathetic kind of way, you got to kind of understand where they're coming from, you got to kind of listen to them.
And then you could formulate a kind of response, they're taking some time, but you can only open the door, you could only You know, put out the water, the horse has to drink it themselves.
So I think that's my two cents when it comes to dealing with family members who don't see eye to eye with you.
Empathy and understanding goes a long way.
Also, just listening to people goes a very long way, and then you can understand why people believe a certain idea.
A lot of it is usually based on fear.
A lot of it is usually based on instincts and emotions, as you were mentioning, and not logical thinking.
And if you could calm down the emotions, and you could not have that kind of aggressive stance, and you could just say, Hey, let's actually reassess this maybe at a different time.
Or, Hey, I don't know what to think about this.
What do you think about this?
And giving people that kind of information that way could be a lot more conducive towards waking people up towards the true reality of this world, rather than the conceived, closed notion that, of course, the government wants them to have.
tim pool
There's a new song out by Paramore, and it's called The News.
And in it, Hayley Williams is singing, turn off the news over and over again.
My first reaction to hearing it was kind of like, what?
And then I went, yeah, she's right.
Yeah, I get it.
Like, we're the news, too.
I get it.
But, uh, there are a lot of people who don't understand what they're listening to and are being told a whole bunch of weirdo nonsense garbage.
Rachel Maddow did this segment where she was like, the Russians could turn off the electricity- the heat in Fargo and, you know, kill people, and it's like, yeah, they could, but that's- there's, like, no reason to believe that's actually gonna happen right now.
Like, why are you— Look, I like— Here's what I do, and we're not perfect.
Like I said, we're the news, too, and so people watch this stuff.
But we pull up news stories about things that happened and then talk about them.
What shows like Maddow does is she speculates and then just pushes whatever fringe theory, like the P-Tape stuff.
Or she would, like, Russiagate nonsense.
riley moore
Yeah, but then also comes to a conclusion on it.
Right, exactly.
Like her own, well, here's the truth.
I'm going to tell you, here's the conclusion on this.
tim pool
Oh, and she's lied so much, like that viral video of her talking about vaccines and transmission.
When she's like, it stops with you.
It's like, you made that up?
You literally made that up?
Like, there was, there was, you know what, man, they all made it up.
phil labonte
I don't think, well I don't think that Maddow made that up.
I think that Maddow just repeated, which is probably worse, but she just repeated what she was told because there was absolutely no interest in finding out if what we were told was true.
It was just, this is what the CDC says, then that is what must be the truth.
There wasn't, there was no room for argument or debate about it, so if you push back on You know, things like, oh, the virus stops with you once you're vaccinated.
If you push back on that, I mean, you remembered.
tim pool
That's the craziest thing now.
So this is another thing I was telling my friend.
I was like, you don't want to get into an argument with them, you know, because like you're here for the holidays, be with your family, you know what I mean?
If they want to press it, you got to be very, very light with it.
Yeah.
And I would say if that stuff comes up, just show them a New York state judge said This does not stop transmission.
You don't got to talk about, you know, hearings and theories and the EU stuff.
You'd be like, I don't know, there was a judge in New York and there's official ruling.
I don't know.
Do you guys follow the science?
That's what I like saying.
Do you follow the science?
Because the science is here.
You know, you can read it if you want.
riley moore
I mean, in terms of what drives their news, and like you said, they all kind of get the same talking points and memo, there's no easier job in Washington, D.C.
than being a Democrat press secretary, especially if you're the White House president.
It's like, here's the talking points, go forth.
And they just cut and paste it and stick it out there, and that drives the narrative.
No harder job than being a Republican press secretary, because you've got to convince and convince.
But the Democrats, I mean, pretty sweet gig.
It's not bad.
Swimming upstream.
tim pool
Let's talk about Kerry Lake, because, you know, we've got a bunch of stories to go through, but considering we're still on the political angle, let's talk about Kerry Lake.
We have this story from azcentral.
What's next for Lake Fincham election lawsuits?
Hobbs' lawyer calls challenges baseless.
So, Kerry Lake filed a lawsuit contesting the results of the election.
A judge today called an emergency hearing.
They had their emergency hearing.
The defense, which is Maricopa County Board of Supervisors, it's Katie Hobbs, Democrats basically, said that they're going to file a motion to dismiss, but the judge in the case set a trial date for, I believe, let me see, I think I have the tweet actually, if we have it.
There we go.
Trial set for the 21st and the 22nd.
This is kind of crazy and it's unfortunate it's going to be happening over the holiday weekend, but this could be big.
So here's the difference between this and Donald Trump's 2020 stuff.
With Arizona, you have a lawsuit from Kerry Lake that points out, well, or they make the claim.
There are 25,000 ballots that came in after Election Day, and that's greater than the margin of victory.
They want an evidentiary hearing.
I don't know how the judge is going to say no standing.
He's going to say, okay, show me the proof you have of this claim.
They're going to file a motion to dismiss.
It very well may get dismissed.
I don't know.
The difference between this and Trump, to expand upon that, is with a lot of the lawsuits that were filed in 2020, the amount of votes that were being challenged would not have overcome the victory margin.
So the courts were just like, This wouldn't matter if it happened anyway, so there's no point.
With Carrie Lake, 17,000 votes.
So if they can present a variety of claims that are more than 17,000, and you do have, in Maricopa County, they said, when the voting machines malfunctioned, 17,000 people had to vote by this ballot box, that's at bare minimum, I think, enough to get, well, I don't know, I mean, if you were being an honest judge, you'd be like, okay, we have to have a review of that.
If 17,000 ballots were affected by the machines not working, and that's the margin of victory, we gotta do a review of those ballots.
Otherwise, you know, the election is gonna- people are gonna contest it or whatever.
But, uh, I think it's interesting nonetheless.
I don't know what you guys think.
My opinion is kind of that I'm not convinced Kerry Lake's gonna be able to overcome the swamp machine, so...
phil labonte
I don't think that there's, I think that as much as she is going to fight tooth and nail
because that's probably her personality, I don't think that it's likely that she's going
to be able to overcome the fact that it was already certified.
Even though the certification was, you know, dubious because what's her name, shouldn't
be certifying her own.
riley moore
Yeah, Hobbs is the Secretary of State.
phil labonte
The Secretary of State should not be certifying their own election at all.
So, that right there is dubious.
tim pool
But PolitiFact says it's totally normal.
phil labonte
Oh yeah, I think that it's a conflict of interest on its face, but I don't think that any of that stuff matters anymore.
I've lost a lot of faith in the electoral process, so we'll see what happens.
tim pool
I'm glad that she's filed suit, I'm glad that she's pursuing it, and I think the judge absolutely should go beyond a motion to dismiss.
riley moore
I mean, you go back to the 2000 election, right?
And we didn't have that result that night.
Everyone's freaking out.
How do we not know who the president is?
Now, with these drop-off ballots, mail-in ballots, ballot harvesting, all this, I mean, election results taking weeks sometimes.
It is not instilling confidence in the system whatsoever.
And then also, the question I'd want to know is, How do they determine when and which ballots are getting cast?
You know, I mean, is that kind of tip the scales a little bit because maybe somebody calls a race early?
You know, I don't know.
But that you have so many ballots sitting out there, I mean, days and sometimes weeks after, it really puts pressure on the system and I think it ruins confidence out there in elections.
tim pool
Democrats completely broke the system.
Established Republicans in many places helped.
But the idea that we're having election month, and sometimes even election double month, election two month, because they're doing a month early and then a month after to count?
Okay, look, man, if we're gonna have a functioning system, there have to be rules.
You can't just be like, the Democrat position and the leftist position is, count all of the votes!
And it's like, no, no, no, no, you count the votes in the allotted time period.
And if you can't, then you've got to build a more robust system to do so.
We have election day, the Constitution prescribes for election day, we can't be playing these games where it's like, well, you know, we'll give it an extra week.
No, no, you don't give it an extra week.
phil labonte
Principally, I agree with both of you.
Like that's what I would like to see.
I think the reality's on the ground.
Ballot harvesting.
To prevent that.
I think that it's gonna have to be ballot harvesting.
I think it's gonna have to be, the conservatives are gonna have to react to the reality of what elections are now.
And you were talking earlier about people being confident in elections and stuff.
I think those days are long past.
Like the days of Americans saying, oh yeah, generally we feel good about our elections.
Those are relics of an old time, homie.
That stuff is gone.
It was probably gone in 2000, and we didn't realize it until 16.
tim pool
I blame YouTube, largely.
phil labonte
Think so?
tim pool
Oh, definitely.
You had half the country voting one guy, half the country voting one guy or whatever, whatever,
you want to break it down. And then people have questions about what happened. They have ideas,
they have they have complaints. And then YouTube says, we're only going to allow one side of the
debate. And so what happened then is that large group of people who believed in Trump
left the platform and stopped communicating with the other side.
Not by choice, they were forced off.
YouTube made sure, and maybe it's on purpose, maybe they want everything to implode, or maybe they're just really dumb.
But by segmenting people in that way, you guarantee they entrench their views, never have a conversation, it never develops, and then confidence will never come back.
Never.
When I was talking to Jack in Vidya, I said, if you keep doing what you're doing, it's going to result in some kind of conflict or civil war or something.
You cannot have two people in an argument Separate them, and tell them to keep arguing about how bad the other side is, but only among themselves.
That is how you entrench tribalism, and it results in otherism.
That's where we're at.
luke rudkowski
And you radicalize people that way.
riley moore
Exactly.
luke rudkowski
And you don't bring the country together.
You separate people, and you perpetuate a divide and conquer agenda, which I believe Has been festered and organized deliberately, but that's just my kind of consensus and understanding of the situation.
But I do want to add to your point, Tim, especially when it comes to big tech social media, because overwhelmingly 18 to 30 year olds voted for the Democratic Party.
I do believe that's because of institutions like TikTok.
Like Twitter like Google like Facebook like Instagram that of course have been prioritizing particular viewpoints that benefit them with the political party that benefits them and censoring the other political parties that don't benefit them that do want to have some kind of accountability when it comes to these bigger institutions, but I think Florida here.
And shouts out to the governor of Florida.
He's making some very bold and brave actions today.
But I think when we're looking at Florida, there are a lot of lessons to be learned about the way that they handled their elections, their rules.
And they also specifically, Ron DeSantis, specifically made sure that Florida would not be affected by the Zuckerbucks, as he called it, as Mark Zuckerberg was financing hundreds of millions of dollars into the voting effort, which predominantly helped Democrats get more voters.
He made sure a lot of that money didn't reach Florida.
It didn't, and I think it had an impact with Florida becoming so red.
riley moore
Yeah, and you knew that result that night.
You knew the election results in Florida that night.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, 50 years ago, we would know the results on day one, and now it takes days and weeks?
How is that possible?
How is that possible?
tim pool
Let's see, who is this?
Marty Smith.
Fan Sue superchatted saying, in AZ, you can't file a dispute until certification.
So, after Katie Hobbs certifies, then Carey Lake immediately launches the lawsuit, and there's a lot of interesting claims made in the lawsuit, but people need to understand, in a lawsuit, you can claim anything you want.
So, it's gotta be adjudicated.
It's not likely, in my opinion, that Carey Lake just made things up, because then you get to an evidentiary hearing, and you're like, oh, that's not true, we made it up.
They're gonna be like, okay, then you lose.
So, I'm willing to bet they have something to present.
I'd like to see it, I think what's likely is the judge is just going to be like, I'm too scared of the far left, so I'm not going to actually, you know, let a real fair hearing take place.
But who knows?
The judge called an emergency hearing and said, we're doing this.
They have till Thursday.
Thursday is when their motion to dismiss is due.
Then Kerry Lake gets a response on Saturday, then the defendants get a response on Sunday, and then on Monday the judge will have a hearing, and then the trial date is the 21st and 22nd.
So this is crazy.
I think he was like, he has like 10 days to issue a ruling on this or something, like some ridiculously small amount of time.
And it's very, very difficult to go through all this.
It was funny, the Hobbs defense team was like, we only did a half an hour to argue to dismiss this.
And then Kerry Lake's team was like, no, we need more time than that.
And the judge was like, what, about an hour each?
It's like, I think that they're going to want to present a lot of stuff, but we'll see.
riley moore
I just also don't understand how, I mean, okay, like this podcast, people watch it all over the world.
Here we are in this room, they watch it all over the world.
We don't have voting machines that work?
Like, why do they keep having problems with voting machines?
tim pool
They can figure out who, uh, we had that Powerball that was like a two billion or whatever it was.
riley moore
Right.
tim pool
And there are like hundreds of millions of tickets sold and they know instantly who won.
Yes.
Now with these elections though, man, everybody, but, but to be fair on that point, it's because everyone's fighting.
The real battle is, man, if you thought elections were won based on how many votes someone got, that is very naive of you.
Elections are won based on the ground game.
It's won based on the laws.
It's won based on, like, so many components of this.
Signature verification.
Mail-in ballots.
You know, when the ballots come in, they gotta check signatures.
That changes the way, you know, it's like Joe Biden said.
It's not about how many votes you get, it's about who counts the vote.
phil labonte
Was that Joe Biden or was it Joe Stalin?
unidentified
It was both.
tim pool
It literally was both of them.
phil labonte
Yeah, it actually was both.
tim pool
It was both.
So here we are, this is the current state, I guess.
You know, a lot of people, I don't think, care too much about the I don't think as many people are following this, because the midterms have come and gone, and everyone's kind of zoned out, like, exhausted from it.
But, while I'm not confident for Carrie Lake, and I'm a big fan, I want her to win, I do think it would be really interesting if she actually does win a stay, at the very least, and then come January 2nd, they're like, oh, we actually can't, we can't bring in, you know, Hobbes as governor, because of the stay, he should buy a court.
phil labonte
Yeah, I'd like to see it, just because I'd like to see the non-establishment candidates win, because I think the establishment needs some refreshing of ideology, I suppose.
But yeah, I just don't see her pulling it off.
I don't see the powers that be in Arizona.
tim pool
I think, I think maybe we're a bit pessimistic because of what, you know, we've seen in the past, but, uh... I'm fully... Carrie likes fighting, and so I'm rooting for her.
riley moore
I'm rooting for her, too.
tim pool
I want to, I, all I want to see is the judge say, show me the evidence, and then if they present bunk, garbage, or it's weak, and the judge says, I'm sorry, it's not enough, then I'm gonna say, well, okay, I guess.
But, uh, it needs to get to that point because we haven't seen that with these, these other, uh, lawsuits.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
They just said, no standing, get out.
riley moore
Yeah, they just get thrown out.
I mean, this one needs to go the distance.
Look, transparency is a good thing.
That instills confidence.
Let's have some transparency in this and see actually what happened to those 17,000 ballots, why the machines weren't working perhaps, what happened to those ballots.
tim pool
They said they were all counted.
riley moore
Yeah.
Well, I want to know that they were all counted.
tim pool
Right.
They should go through and signature verify, whatever.
And I'll put it this way, too.
Let's say you operate on the assumption that Carrie Lake is just totally wrong.
Then here's your opportunity to prove it and rub it in her face.
riley moore
Well, the annoying thing is that because you're going through this process or you believe this process should happen, the left is like, election denier, y'all are election deniers, election deniers.
It's like, no, what we want, this is a good thing, right?
However, it turns out this is a good thing that could perhaps instill a little bit more confidence in the electoral process, hopefully.
phil labonte
Yeah, as much as people, as much as the left says, you know, that there's The election denial is bad and blah blah blah blah blah.
They're doing everything they can to make sure that their opposition doesn't have any faith in the in the election.
They're throwing out all kinds of court cases saying without standing they never get in front of a judge.
They have they have all you know they're saying that if you deny the election or if you if you ask for verification it's election denying.
They're doing everything they can to make people feel like The elections should be suspect.
riley moore
Yeah, well, this is what the left does with everything, right?
It's their solution is always worse than the problem, right?
So people had, you know, there's voter suppression and people don't have a confidence in elections.
So now we're going to have elections last for a month.
Right, and it just made it worse.
It just made things even worse.
It just made things even worse.
I mean, it's like when they raise taxes, it's like, well, then we'll just come up with more taxes and we'll fix it.
tim pool
Well, let's see what happens on next Monday is when they're going to be, I guess, the judge will issue a ruling.
But then eight days from now, 21st and 22nd, is the trial date.
If it makes it that far, should be very interesting.
Let's jump to this story from TimCast.com.
Printful cuts ties with Gays Against Groomers, group seeks legal action claiming defamation.
Quote, we are looking into all of our options with our attorney, Ron Coleman, and intend to pursue legal action.
phil labonte
Hey, Ron.
tim pool
You ready for this one?
Alright.
Gays Against Groomers.
This is an organization of LGBTQ people who oppose groomers.
Anyone of any background who targets children to groom them.
Alright, here's the best part.
Printful, on Sunday, who produced merchandise for the organization, suspended business with Gaze Against Groomers to, quote, mitigate the risk of being affiliated with an organization that doesn't represent our company values.
We do our best to remain neutral and respect freedom of speech, yet we draw the line at content that foments hatred towards any person or group, reads an email.
Let me break that down for you.
Printful is explicitly saying on the issue of pedophilia they are neutral and don't want to be associated with an organization that would disparage pedophiles.
phil labonte
Oops.
luke rudkowski
Hey, hey, didn't Michael Jordan say that groomers buy sneakers too?
Am I getting that wrong?
I might be getting that wrong, but hey, you know, they're trying to tighten the market on the groomer market.
It's a pretty big market out there, especially with Balenciaga and their marketing campaign, especially with the FBI and, you know, protecting Epstein for over 30 years, ditching the victims to the side.
I mean, hey, This is a business trying to make money here and let's call a spade a spade here.
They want groomer money and they want to support... Well, you said it right there.
tim pool
Hold on a minute.
You know, imagine you make t-shirts, right?
And you got these really wealthy individuals like Epstein and his clients.
You don't want to lose those people.
You know, so Printful is upset that... Yikes!
But look.
We keep giving the benefit of the doubt whenever stories like this happen, and we're like, oh, they probably just assume gays against groomers is anti-LGBTQ or something, and I'm like, no, no, no, you can't do that here.
The organization is called Gays Against Groomers.
It's literally like people who are LGBTQ being like, pedophiles are bad, and they're like, you're inciting hatred against them, so we're gonna be neutral on this one.
Okay, okay, principle.
Like Luke said, go hang out with Balenciaga, see how that's doing.
See how it's working out for them.
luke rudkowski
I mean, they only got a yay supporting Balenciaga.
I don't know anyone else that's supporting them.
unidentified
Seriously.
phil labonte
He still does wear Balenciaga.
luke rudkowski
And he made statements in favor of them recently.
But other than that, I mean, I think it's pretty clear that a lot of people weren't happy with the way that they handled their marketing.
And I think this is pretty obvious.
I mean, the organization's name is Gays Against Groomers.
And you're getting rid of their ability to sell merchandise because you don't agree with them.
Their main thing that they do is that they're pushing against groomers, against people who hurt children.
You're saying, we don't like that.
They're neutral.
Yeah, we're neutral on that issue.
riley moore
They try to pretend like it's not a real thing.
It is absolutely a real thing.
And you've seen them try to change the language and the narrative in academia, right?
I'm sure you've heard of the acronym now they use.
luke rudkowski
MAPS.
riley moore
Yes, MAPS.
tim pool
So here's another statement.
They said, We suspended gays against groomers because the underlying homophobic and transphobic misinformation spread by this organization does not align with our values of respect and inclusion.
Let us be clear that we do not condone child abuse or the grooming of minors.
We will not work with an organization that spreads harmful accusations against the LGBTQ plus community under the guise of protecting children.
You see what they're doing?
Even if you are LGBTQ and you explicitly are just like, hey, it's the grooming of a problem with, they accuse you of being homophobic and transphobic.
It's like, yo, they're literally gay!
So let me show you something funny.
Media Matters put out this thing.
It's the retweets and mentions of right-wing figures' anti-LGBTQ tweets and accounts before and after Musk acquired Twitter.
I'm number one.
You can see Tim Pool right up top.
I have 20,261 retweets that mention Groomer.
31,153 mentions of the word Groomer.
What they don't tell you in this is that the tweets in question are me saying, quote, Groomer does not refer to LGBTQ people.
So I have like three tweets that got like tens of thousands of retweets or whatever, specifically saying that.
They then take it and call that anti-LGBTQ because they're lying and manipulating, and for some reason, I just don't know why, Media Matters really wants people to believe that LGBTQ people are pedophiles.
Now I don't know why they would do that, but let me give you a really good example.
Blair White is on the list.
Blair White responded with, like, the clownery of me being on this list.
Blair White is trans!
This is absolutely insane.
And gays against groomers is number three.
I just want to send my condolences to Jack Posobiec for being number two.
Sorry, Jack.
There's a new game in town.
luke rudkowski
That's the first loser, right?
Second place?
tim pool
That's right, Jack!
Second place is the first loser!
But it's ridiculous!
phil labonte
I mean, the whole thing is ridiculous.
It's literally, considering the fact that it's gays against groomers, they're essentially saying that it's not about LGBT, it's about the left.
And we're using LGBT People as as a way to to push forward our leftist agenda not specifically the things that that the LGBT LGBT people want because gays against groomers are obviously LGBT and have a different political perspective It's just that the left is
It has taken on the mantle of LGBT, and anything that the LGBT lobby does is always associated with the left, or what the left wants.
tim pool
You know, I love simulism.
Elon Musk was talking about simulation theory on stage, I guess, when he was getting booed or something.
And I'll tell you why, because I kind of have to just believe—I'm half-kidding, by the way—that when I come out, And every statement I've given on this, every video I've
done, explicitly is about how groomer does not mean LGBTQ.
But they keep saying it does.
They have to just be a bunch of, like, mobs. Non-player characters, roaming around randomly on the hillside,
controlled by no one.
Because, like, I don't know how.
We're at the point where I go, oh, the word groomer doesn't in any way refer to LGBTQ people.
unidentified
They just immediately go, why are you calling gay people pedophiles?
tim pool
And I'm like, well, I literally just said the opposite.
What are you talking about?
That's where we're at right now.
So look, in all reality, it's a cult, but it's hard for me to believe that even in a cult, they can hear you say, you know, the sky is blue and then they go, the sky is not green.
And I didn't say it was.
Where are you getting these ideas from?
That's where we're at right now.
How you solve for that, I have no idea.
Maybe it's not even solvable.
riley moore
I'm sure they've gone out and polled it and realized that we're on the right side of it.
You know, they're like, oh, we got to stop this.
I mean, you know, to me, it's just, you know, you go back to when Trump saying fake news, fake media back 2016, 15, and they were like, this is made up.
No, we're very, very on.
And it turns out, of course, yes, there is fake news.
That is a real thing.
phil labonte
Chris Eliza.
Are you familiar with the name Chris Eliza?
tim pool
He got fired from CNN.
phil labonte
He has an immortal tweet.
A tweet that was immortalized.
He one time tweeted, I'm gonna say again for the thousandth time or whatever, the media doesn't pick a side.
And it has been, I have gotten a whole lot of mileage out of that bad boy, let me tell you.
I got that saved in my phone.
And that thing has allowed me to perform some fun dunks.
But it's true.
The media narrative is unquestionably a leftist narrative.
There's no more room for denying it or arguing it.
The Overton window of acceptable argument or acceptable debate has been set by the left and anyone that steps outside of it is looked at as, you know, untouchable and the goal of the left is a Whole cultural revolution in the United States like are you familiar with James Lindsay?
Mm-hmm So I'm I'm totally like I'm right on the same page with that guy James Lindsay Chris Ruffo those guys really have their I think they have their finger right on the pulse of the real heart of the problem in the heart of the problem is that schools have been infiltrated by left-leaning people that have an ideology that they are using in education.
And it's the schools of education.
So it's not just your colleges where kids are going.
It's the schools that teach teachers.
So these teachers that are coming out of the schools of education are indoctrinated into an ideology that they cannot even see.
They are unaware that they are indoctrinated in it.
They are completely unaware that they have been taken and Given a framework to look at the world that is like putting on racism colored glasses or sexism colored glasses.
Essentially they're oppression colored glasses.
And all they see in the whole world is oppression.
And when you teach kids through a lens of oppression, you psychologically damage them.
Because young people should not be shown the world as a place that is full of oppression.
Even if that's the case, that you can say, look, there's all kinds of different ways that people are oppressed, you don't tell seven-year-olds, because that emotionally damages them, and they get depressed, and there's all kinds of horrible things, and you're seeing it in the levels of depression in young people nowadays.
You've got so many people on SSRIs.
It's because of the way that kids are taught in schools, and it's because of a left-leaning...
riley moore
I'll give you a great example today.
Today I was at a high school giving an award to a teacher that actually cared who's doing a great job in her school and I walk into the school before I get in.
I walk through the parking lot and Not really any bumper stickers on the cars, except for two of them.
And two of those cars parked right next to each other both had Bernie Sanders stickers, you know, these kind of real left-wing slogans on it.
And it's like, seriously?
phil labonte
What were the slogans?
riley moore
I can't remember.
phil labonte
How left-wing?
Because some left-wing slogans are slogans like, you know, everybody deserves health care.
And then there are other left-wing slogans like liberals get the bullet too.
riley moore
Yeah.
It wasn't that left wing, but it was, you know, you got Bernie on there and then just this last week, last week I had... I think they're all that left wing at the end of the day, though, is my point, because it's a religion at the end of the day.
So I had a concern group of parents came to me.
Wood County, West Virginia, that's out in Parkersburg, and they said, and this is a very conservative county, they said, you won't believe what our children have access to.
They showed me this material, all the children, yeah, and so something actually very, very similar to this.
phil labonte
He's pointing to the book that actually is that book.
riley moore
Yes, actually.
phil labonte
Look inside, it's got the pictures.
riley moore
That's it!
phil labonte
That's the one!
riley moore
That's the book.
That's the book that they have access to, and these parents, they're children because we were living in COVID and all that, people have got iPads and all that, and that's how they were accessing books, and it's on the accessible reading list through the library for elementary school children.
Elementary school children have access to this.
I mean, what in the hell is going on here?
phil labonte
I can tell you.
riley moore
And this is just, and this is Wood County, West Virginia, which tells you it's probably happened in all, I mean, all over the state.
But it's just absolutely shocking stuff.
phil labonte
Tim, did you have something you wanted to say?
Or did...
luke rudkowski
I just want to... I'm pretty sure that YouTube age-restricted the Project Veritas video from the Chicago teacher, which is kind of ironic since YouTube doesn't think it's okay for small children to watch when it literally happens to small children, which is absolutely mind-boggling.
tim pool
Well, it's like when the parents came in and said, I'm going to read you from this book.
Start reading stuff.
And then they're like, hey, you can't say that here.
Order, order.
If you keep talking, we'll kick you out.
And they're like, what?
You made my kids read this book!
phil labonte
The whole point of that is because as much as there are people that are worried about the LGBT issues, the LGBT issues in that are really a tertiary topic.
The point is to make revolutionaries.
To make kids that are unhappy with the way society is.
The Marxists call it cultural hegemony, right?
It's the society remakes the society.
So when you have kids that go to school that learn how to be good Americans, they go and they come out of school and they go into jobs and they become good Americans and they make more kids that go to schools that learn how to be good Americans.
What the left wants to do is get into the schools and stop making, stop having those kids that go in, come out as good Americans.
They want at least a portion of them to come out as radical leftist revolutionaries.
And if you get a portion of them to come out like that, all you have to do is get, you know, whatever, a third or 10% or 20% of the population to be really, really upset.
And that can uproot a whole civilization.
And that's the goal.
The goal is a revolution.
And anyone that tells you anything different is lying to you.
riley moore
Yeah, now, I don't know if this is in this book or not, but part of the material they brought, it's like, two young guys, and here's how you satisfy your partner, and I mean, literally... Yeah, but that just shows discord.
phil labonte
Like I said, what's going on in there, the sexual stuff, that's tertiary.
The point The point is the discord.
The point is the fact that they're revolutionary.
The point is they don't fall into categories that you would consider normal.
They're not hegemonic categories.
They become revolutionary.
They're somehow subversive or whatever.
And if you can subvert the whole society, or if you convert subvert a portion of the
society to the point that they will ferment a revolution, then you can uproot capitalism,
right?
You can get rid of capitalism, you can get rid of what they would what they would call
hierarchies that are that are unfair, oppressive hierarchies.
And the whole intent is to throw the whole system over and destroy it all because they
think that the system is illegitimate.
They think capitalism, they think that owning property, they think that that the reason
that they're against free speech is because they don't believe that there is free speech.
They believe that you're only trying to use speech as a way to exercise power.
riley moore
Well, look and I do know people in West Virginia.
Listen to this.
We're fixing this next month in the legislature So just hang tight I hope you're right, because this is James Lindsay.
phil labonte
Like I said, I think he's on the right track.
And if he is right, a cultural revolution in the United States, like the one that happened in China, you know, it's going on right now and kids are attacking their parents.
And you see, you know, you've got videos of kids screaming on college campuses, screaming at the teachers.
That's the same thing that happened in China.
tim pool
You see that woman who was at her dad's funeral or whatever, attacking him?
phil labonte
Horrifying, but yes.
tim pool
And it's the exact opposite of honor thy father and thy mother.
unidentified
100%.
riley moore
Well, I mean, look, in West Virginia, I run what's called the Hope Scholarship.
So that's an educational savings account.
And that has allowed kids to take their and their parents, their version of taxpayer dollars and use it outside of the public school system.
It's educational freedom.
In West Virginia, we also allow families to use that for homeschoolers.
So homeschoolers can also take, look, it's their tax dollars.
Let them use it and educate their children how they want to.
And that is a way that we're able to get some of our kids here in the near future away from this stuff and get back control over that.
luke rudkowski
Homeschooling is key.
It's very important.
And millions of Americans are starting to do this.
phil labonte
You're right about homeschooling.
I hate to throw water on what you were saying, but the video that Veritas just put up, that's a private school.
tim pool
Yeah.
riley moore
Yeah.
Well, I mean, but this is why we have homeschool as a part of it.
phil labonte
Homeschool is important.
Homeschool, because then they're, yeah, I fully agree.
riley moore
And we have a huge homeschool population in West Virginia, and it was very controversial, particularly with the teachers unions, including homeschool students in this, but it is part of it.
We also have a legislation That's under my purview also.
So we got micropods, we have learning pods, pardon me, and so where you can get groups of homeschool kids come together and use what's called the Hope Scholarship, their tax dollars, to be able to educate themselves free of all of this and just parents coming together in what used to happen in this country in a very traditional manner, you know, trying to get back to those things.
I mean, The cultural left constantly wants to have a revolution every five years of what is a norm in this country when, to me, a lot of people are like, well, I'm a conservative.
It's like, if you're conservative, what are you trying to conserve?
tim pool
There was a point someone brought up on the show a while ago that the fact that our lives are dramatically different from our grandparents' is unique to this time period.
For all of human history, you and your grandparents had basically the exact same kind of life.
Mm-hmm.
Population growth was stagnant.
Your grandfather farmed, you farmed.
Your grandfather was a blacksmith, you blacksmith.
You very much live the same life now with the rapid advancement of technology and energy technologies.
Our lives are completely different.
riley moore
And culturally, though, Tim, there's a thing called transmission, right?
And it happens through generational things.
Your parents have taught you, their parents taught them, and there's transmission of those norms, values, things like that, that each family has different norms, cultures, and values that they hold dear.
That's all been blown up, right?
I mean, to your point, this has all been destroyed, and it gets leveled out like every five years, and it gets lower and lower and lower the level that we're at.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, to continue the conversation about schooling, I think there's a reason David Rockefeller influenced our modern education system, which is really an indoctrination system, and now that he's no longer here with us, Other individuals have kind of taken his mantle and are also influencing education.
Those individuals are individuals like Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, that have spent hundreds of millions of dollars on new experimental education that has lowered reading levels, made students less intelligent as they're promoting more woke doctrines and equity.
These are literally the policies that are being influenced right now by a lot of very powerful individuals setting up this education system, which is not really educating people at all, just indoctrinated them into the woke cult.
riley moore
Yeah, let me, and if you, sorry, just real quick though, you look at those national test scores, they are freaking abysmal.
They are awful.
I mean, it cannot get any worse.
Well, I guess it could get worse, but this is, The lowest it's been in decades.
It is awful.
And that is what I do want to point this out.
If I am elected to Congress, if I get in, I'm going to be pushing for national school choice, just like we have in West Virginia.
Give people back control of their tax dollars to be able to educate their families, homeschool or otherwise.
Somebody said to me the other day, wouldn't that destroy the Department of Education?
I said, yes, exactly.
tim pool
That's yeah.
You should like Thomas Massey.
phil labonte
I am fully for the abolition of like Cabinet level bureaucracies.
Get rid of the Department of Education.
riley moore
You look at it since Jimmy Carter put it in.
It's just gotten worse and worse and worse!
phil labonte
Preach!
Preach!
tim pool
Let's jump to this story.
We have this from CNN.
unidentified
U.S.
tim pool
lawmakers introduce bill to ban TikTok.
They say, Senator Marco Rubio, the top Republican on the Senate Intelligence Committee and a bipartisan pair of congressmen in the House, reflects the latest escalation by U.S.
policymakers against the Chinese-owned short-form video app.
TikTok has faced doubts about its ability to safeguard U.S.
user data from the Chinese government.
I'm pretty sure it just sends your data to the Chinese government, doesn't it?
riley moore
Yes, absolutely.
tim pool
Do you think it should be banned?
riley moore
I do think it should be banned.
And you've seen this with Huawei.
Huawei's made entrance into a lot of developed countries.
It's been proven time and time again that they are spying on them.
They're collecting data.
This is exactly what TikTok is doing.
We need to be very clear that China is our greatest adversary in the world.
We do know that, right?
And I think we need to be acting as such.
tim pool
What should we do about TikTok?
Ban it?
Get rid of it?
luke rudkowski
Well, essentially, they're doing what the DHS and NSA are doing here domestically inside of the United States.
I think the bigger answer would be to make people aware that everything they do online isn't private.
Everything is being collected.
There's entire data centers that the United States is financing through your tax dollars that literally create personality traits about who you are, what you're going to be doing.
tim pool
Zuckerberg knows when you poop!
luke rudkowski
Exactly!
And that's the lowest level of it.
tim pool
But it's not just about that.
It's about how TikTok is feeding all this woke stuff.
So we're talking about what's going on in schools.
TikTok is a huge component of crushing the brains of young people in this country.
unidentified
Yes, exactly.
riley moore
Look at, you know, Chinese TikTok versus U.S.
TikTok, right?
I mean, it's incredibly different, the type of algorithm that's being pushed here in the United States.
It's trying to be culturally destructive.
It's trying to be divisive.
I think it is a huge problem.
I do.
phil labonte
Tax the e-thoughts.
unidentified
The IRS is already doing that.
tim pool
That's the crazy thing, too, that we've talked about with, like, Instagram.
Somebody was mentioning how they searched for... I can't remember what they were talking about.
You search for anything on Instagram and it's going to be some kind of sexualized content with women and, like... Rule 34.
No, I guess, but, like, not...
Not creating porn, but like, you will just search for, you know, action sports or something and then they will find a way to feed, or I should say, young women are finding a way to make content seem sexual because it gets them clicks.
The algorithm is generating this.
Then you have OnlyFans.
That's the direction we're going.
All of these things are just components and it all falling apart.
phil labonte
Yes.
riley moore
Yeah, I mean, well, it goes back to that generational transmission, too.
I mean, if we were transmitting values, norms, I mean, generationally to Zillennials and everybody else now, I mean, would they be doing those things?
You know, I'm not exactly sure.
Now, I mean, we're like in a society of me, me, me, me, me, and that's kind of what drives all of this.
tim pool
It's crazy, man.
I'm reading some of these stories.
There was like some woman accused of murder and she's like, she's gonna pay her bail with OnlyFans money.
And I'm like, that's just so crazy.
These stories about women who are like millionaires now.
They figured it out.
Just get naked on the internet and there's money waiting, but it doesn't work for everybody.
phil labonte
Ladies, secure your bag.
All right?
That being said, it is probably not a good idea to have an OnlyFans.
tim pool
Think about where we end up in 10 years.
A woman who is 26 is making a bunch of money on OnlyFans.
Millions?
Not all of them.
Some of them, you know... What's the average?
luke rudkowski
I think the average is actually pretty low.
phil labonte
Yeah, like the average is bad.
luke rudkowski
It's like, not even like 70 bucks, I think.
tim pool
But that's because... Yeah, but that's like most people aren't gonna make money.
But of the women who do, what happens in 10 years at 36?
phil labonte
I have really, really bad opinions about this and it's making me nervous.
luke rudkowski
Well, now you gotta tell everybody.
phil labonte
Well, because it's a young person's game, and there are so many young ladies that are
told that because they're... that mistake being young for being pretty, and then they're
fighting in this slew of young people, right, young women, where they're just young.
They're not really particularly pretty.
It's like they get this idea that, oh, because the five guys that keep hitting on me over at the bar keep hitting on me and won't go away, I must be hot.
then they get on OnlyFans, and then next thing you know, there's OnlyFan, or girls on OnlyFans posting their Ls,
posting these comments from these horribly broken women that thought, oh, I'm pretty,
and I'm gonna get on the internet, and I'm gonna make a lot of money
because guys think I'm pretty, and then the internet treats them like horrible,
horrible, horrible, you know?
It's rough, it's not okay.
tim pool
The point I wanna make is, you get a woman, let's say she's attractive and 26,
10 years goes by, now she's 36.
A lot of the guys have either paired up or are no longer interested because they want a 26 year old.
But she's still probably doing well.
An attractive woman under 30 is going to do alright. 46.
Now, what happens to a woman who has no discernible skills because she spent a couple decades doing OnlyFans, now she's in her late forties, what does she do?
Does she open an OnlyFans network to court young talent and manage their accounts for them or something?
Don't need to, it's all automated through the system.
Assuming OnlyFans lasts that long or something like this happens, these women will eventually get too old to be able to do this and make money.
And then what?
Then they go to the state and they say, it's the government's fault, they should pay me.
luke rudkowski
And that's not even without the AI and anime stuff that's coming our way.
unidentified
Oh, yeah!
luke rudkowski
That's going to totally destroy society in many different ways.
But I just looked it up.
The average OnlyFans creator earns about $180 to $150 a month, according to the best estimates out there.
phil labonte
Can you imagine thinking that you're a pretty young girl at 20 years old, right?
And the only experience you've had is in town, Everyone has treated you like you're the hottest girl around because there's 30 girls that are young and pretty and you're the hottest of the 30 but puts you in like, you know on the internet and then you're competing with like Beautiful women from all all over the world and you get treated like crap Because you're not as pretty as the prettiest and it just destroys your fucking your self-esteem.
It's it's just I'm not saying that women shouldn't do it, and I'm not the guy that's going to judge people that do that.
That's not what I'm saying.
But it's not as easy as people think.
I'm a musician and I'm in a band, and the chances of me actually succeeding for as long as I have, it is...
Nobody is as lucky as I am.
It never happens.
The fact that I've been doing this for 20 years as a professional musician, that wasn't even in the cards.
I didn't think I'm gonna start a band and I'm gonna be successful.
I thought I'm gonna start a band and play on the weekends and work a day job for the rest of my life.
That's what I expected and thankfully it didn't work out that way and I'm super fortunate.
But your average person, your average young girl that starts an OnlyFans account thinking that she's gonna get beat up emotionally, And you can never take it back and it's going to come up in job interviews for the rest of your life.
tim pool
take it back. That content will always be on the internet.
People will take pictures on their phones with another phone or something like that.
riley moore
And you can never take it back, and it's going to come up in job interviews for the rest
of your life. I mean, it's just—you know, like you're saying, the odds of becoming
a millionaire at this are so minimal. But secondarily, do you want to be in your fifties
and sixties and trying to cling to relevance and trying to still live that lifestyle?
It's just, that's a sad road.
phil labonte
You know, I don't want to sound like I'm coming off judging anybody at all, you know, because I understand that there are problems later in life that come along with it and stuff, but I really think most of the damage happens to young people because of the expectation and then when reality hits them.
Because by the time you're 40, if you've been living that life, you know what's coming.
It's like if you've been living that life, you're 36, you know, you're like, man, Clock is ticking and these things ain't up here anymore, they're down here or whatever.
It's not like you're high.
That's a secret, you know?
luke rudkowski
Well, another aspect is that the market has become so competitive.
I think talking to some of the women out there, they have this notion that, oh, I could just post whatever picture and I'll get Millions of dollars.
It doesn't work that way.
A lot of the biggest earners work extremely hard on their content, on messaging people.
They have PR teams.
They have entire marketing teams that work with them.
It's not just as some people think.
Because, again, on average, $150 a month.
tim pool
There's that old saying.
Every woman has boobs.
phil labonte
Every woman has boobs.
tim pool
They give you that warning.
But it's not true, actually.
I think the average amount of boobs is less than two.
The average amount of limbs is less than two.
phil labonte
1.89 boobs per woman?
tim pool
It is, because you get any individual who's had an amputation or a mastectomy, and that brings the whole average down.
But my point is, like Luke was saying, there's a lot of women who think they're going to be successful at this, not realizing that there's a hundred plus million American women.
You're competing with all of the ones willing to do it, which is a lot.
So that's like massive supply with demand can only get as high as there are dudes, but supply is immense.
phil labonte
And if you're coming in cold, like you've never done any kind of social media stuff, they don't realize that content is the driver.
You have to keep feeding that content machine.
So that means you've got to post pictures every day, and you've got to interact with the fans that are paying you, and blah blah blah.
luke rudkowski
And it's non-stop work.
It's like more than 9-to-5 in some instances.
phil labonte
I can't post on my Instagram page enough to feel like I am getting the most out of my Instagram page.
riley moore
Yeah, I mean, if it sounds too good to be true, it's because it is.
phil labonte
It's a lot of work.
It's hard.
It sounds like it's, oh, look, this person makes millions, but yeah, that person is probably not just, like, waking up, taking a picture, and then going about their day.
riley moore
Yeah, I mean, like, in your business, that's being like, oh, somebody sings and they make money.
I'll start singing.
phil labonte
It's not how it works.
tim pool
That's what people think.
phil labonte
That is how they think.
tim pool
You know the song, Money for Nothing?
phil labonte
Yeah.
That ain't working.
That's the way you do it.
unidentified
You play the guitar on the MTV.
tim pool
Yeah, that's a good song.
Wasn't it like the band was, they were like at a Best Buy or something and they overheard some guy say that or something like that?
phil labonte
I mean, that wouldn't surprise me.
I heard the story.
tim pool
Urban legend.
But like, I heard a story that they were at like a furniture store and they overheard two guys watching one of their music videos or watching music, like watching MTV or something, and then they were like, that ain't working, you know, that's the job we should get.
And it's just like...
Yeah, it's probably more work.
It's substantially more work.
People think that, like YouTube for instance, they're like, man, I really want to do that.
And I'm like, yeah, it's like endless work.
phil labonte
Mark wrote it after overhearing a delivery man in New York department store complain about their jobs while watching MTV.
He wrote the song in the store sitting in a kitchen display they had set up.
Many of the lyrics were things they actually said.
That ain't working.
That's the way.
You play the guitar on the MTV.
tim pool
Money for nothing and the chicks for free.
riley moore
Money for nothing and chicks for free.
tim pool
And then a lot of these musicians end up doing drugs, becoming extremely depressed, hate their lives.
And it's funny when you hear about these big bands that break up.
And I remember growing up, you'd hear about a band that broke up or whatever.
And then people would be like, why would they break up?
They were successful.
And it's like, yeah.
And the other ones that don't do a bunch of heroin.
It must not be all that great.
phil labonte
All that remains is, you know, we had one person pass away a couple years back.
One guy, I was an alcoholic, or am an alcoholic, I don't drink anymore.
So that kind of lifestyle is real.
We've gone through more drummers, probably gone through as many drummers as Spinal Tap, I think.
Seven or eight of them.
We go through drummers like mad.
It's hard to play blast beats in double bass, man.
That stuff's hard.
luke rudkowski
Wait until you find out about Child Celebrities.
tim pool
Oh man.
luke rudkowski
And the people that Disney brings up.
unidentified
Oh God.
phil labonte
I don't want to.
I don't want to.
tim pool
It's crazy, man.
phil labonte
I talked to Eliza Blue, she's on Twitter and stuff, we're mutuals and stuff, and hearing that poor woman, she is so damn strong, and the work that she has done is really, really, really great, and hearing the stories that she's related, I don't envy that poor soul.
She's done great work, but man, she has paid.
tim pool
Let's go to Super Chats!
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So type that in, TimCast.com, click join us, become a member, and we will have on the front page, in the left side, is a members-only uncensored show that goes up Monday through Thursday at 11pm.
We got one for you tonight.
But let's read your Super Chats right now, so smash that like button.
We got Dapper McStache!
He says, Tim and Ian, guys, the fusion facility in California got another sustained ignition with an energy gain factor of almost 1.5.
Check the New York Times.
I heard that!
phil labonte
That is big.
tim pool
Yup.
So I think they were saying something like the amount of fuel required for fusion is like a kilogram compared to modern energy output of comparable, a comparable energy output would be like 10,000 tons of fuel.
Wow.
So this is big news.
phil labonte
Yeah.
riley moore
China's actually pretty advanced on that, aren't they?
phil labonte
I don't know.
riley moore
Yeah, I saw an article a little while back that, I mean, they're making strides.
tim pool
But the other thing, too, I don't think people are talking about, and I would need to ask an expert, they're fusing hydrogen into helium.
So does this mean we can effectively have a byproduct of manufactured helium?
unidentified
Maybe.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
And helium is finite on this planet, and we're worried about running out, so maybe that's a solution?
Alright.
Kevin Pilgrim says, Phil again?
How the hell did I get so lucky?
Let's go!
phil labonte
Yeah!
tim pool
Yeah, he's here.
He was chillin'.
We were like, yeah, just come on the show.
He was like, alright.
Let's grab some more news.
Ruler of Star says, Phil is back for the last time with a darkened heart.
He has to stand up for his victory lap.
Hold on.
This probably won't end for at least two weeks.
Or are we asking too much?
phil labonte
How many did you get in there?
There's like 10 song titles in there, I think.
Good job.
tim pool
I think a bunch of people tried playing a game of cramming as many titles as possible.
phil labonte
How many All That Remains titles can you put into the sentence?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Where we at?
A lot of people just saying, yeah, welcome back.
That's great.
phil labonte
Thank you guys.
Give me a follow at PhilThatRemains on the Twitter machine.
tim pool
There you go.
ReaperSun says, Tim, can you bring Matt Bender back on or at least call him out on Twitter for the way he's twisting the Twitter files information and lying to people?
I mean, that just sounds like the left, I guess.
phil labonte
Sounds like Matt Bender.
tim pool
Yeah.
I mean, hey, props to him for coming on the show, you know.
phil labonte
When he came on, I've said this on Twitter, when he came on, I was watching the show and it was so frustrating to watch him because I'm just like, this guy is twisting everything.
He's so full of crap.
And, you know, I mean, I appreciate the fact that he came on, obviously, because, you know, it's good to have people that disagree and stuff.
But it's really, really frustrating to hear someone that is so intent on controlling the narrative.
tim pool
We are going to have one heck of a show soon with, uh, I'm not going to say who, but we actually were able to book a couple different very, very prominent leftists at the same time.
So this is going to be fun.
I'm not going to, I want to say who it is, but, uh, I don't know if leftist is the right word, but you know, liberal Democrat type personalities.
So it should, should be interesting.
Matt Binder kind of style.
We'll see.
unidentified
We'll see.
phil labonte
Are they communists?
tim pool
I don't know.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
I think I know who it is.
I don't know.
We'll just read.
I don't like saying guess in advance in case they cancel and people get disappointed or whatever.
But look, I gotta tell you, we invite leftists and liberals come on and they just ignore it.
They talk smack online and then I reply with, I'd love for you to say that on my show to all of my viewers.
And they're like, I ain't going to film.
It's like, okay, don't you want to tell people what you think about me?
unidentified
No.
phil labonte
They're like, no, he had the black Nazi on.
riley moore
They just want to tell their people what they think.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
David Doerr says, Tim, I'm so sorry to hear about Mr. Bocas' declining health.
I lost a cat to lymphoma a few years ago after endless treatments, radiation, and chemo.
It's heartbreaking.
I just wanted you to know.
I feel it.
I really do appreciate it, David Doerr.
I can give you guys an update.
He's home.
I haven't seen him yet because he came home while we were starting the show.
He's on medication that the doctor referred to as palliative or hospice care.
Unfortunately, Mr. Bocas either has developmental organ issues or genetic issues, but I think it's probably developmental because he was born in the streets, probably ate garbage, you know, garbage in, bad organ development.
He's got underdeveloped kidneys, which made him susceptible to chronic kidney disease, which happens in cats.
And unfortunately, because of his genetic heart defects, he is not a good candidate for a kidney transplant, if we were going to even try and get one, nor can he receive Dialysis!
If we were going to consider getting it for him, which maybe it's just really expensive.
So what they said was they hope he makes it to Christmas and that's just crazy because like six months ago we did a photo shoot and we got a picture of him on the website so if you if you go to TimCast.com When you click join us, you'll see a talent roster of just various personalities who work here.
And Bocas is front and center.
Roberto Jr.
is the bottom right.
He's a rooster that we raised.
And Bocas looks very plump and healthy.
And that was like six months ago.
So it just hit.
Um, we were worried that it was something we did, but they told us, they were like, no, no, you know, they, they, they, like three different doctors were like, we had a cardiologist, internal medicine, as well as the ER doctor, and they were like looking at him and looking at everything.
It seems like it was just something that was going to start happening.
His kidneys eventually were, were going to start getting weaker, and then it's a rapid progression, and it's a, it's just very, very unfortunate, but We're gonna bring him out at the Christmas party, and I have formally made it a job requirement for TimCast employees to inform Mr. Bocas that they love him.
So, it's been formally announced.
I'm kidding, by the way, but I jokingly did say that.
Everybody, you gotta tell Bocas you love him, because they said they hope he makes it to Christmas.
So we're going to be giving him hormones for his blood count.
We're going to be giving him IV fluids.
They said maybe he'll make it a couple months, and if he does, they'll want to see him again and see how he's doing.
They said he's voracious, and they're actually surprised, considering his levels, how he's behaving, as if nothing's wrong.
And that's actually the problem.
We didn't know anything was wrong with him because he's a tough little SOB and he acted like there were no problems.
So we saw no symptoms.
He got a little thin and we brought him to the vet.
The vet was like, well, you know, just get him a better food.
And they didn't even, the vet didn't even think to check for kidney failure until he started blacking out, started dropping to the floor.
And then we were like, oh, okay.
And that was on Friday.
We rushed him to the ER and they were like, yo, he's like on the verge of death.
And we were like, what?
Little homeboy was putting up a tough fight and pretending like no problem was happening.
So with the medicine, you know, we'll see.
But I do appreciate it.
We're going to try and figure out, to the best of our abilities, how to immortalize Mr. Bocas.
I think we'll have him choose an heir.
So we want to rescue another cat, and then we'll have him, you know, whichever one he gets along with, a kitten.
And then maybe if we get a kitten soon, he can teach, you know, the kitten the business You know, how to be a good C-suite personality for the company.
And then when he invariably passes, unfortunately, then we'll have Bocas too.
But it is what it is, man.
We will mourn for Mr. Bocas.
phil labonte
Get him cremated and put a little bit of Mr. Bocas and a necklace around you.
tim pool
Viking funeral.
phil labonte
Ah, there you go.
tim pool
Yeah, I think Bocas gets a Viking funeral.
We'll get a little boat with a little flaming arrow and we'll Well, you got the river just right over here.
unidentified
That's right.
Yeah.
phil labonte
Perfect.
tim pool
Viking funeral for Mr. Bocas.
phil labonte
Perfect.
tim pool
I don't know if that's illegal, but, you know, we'll look into it.
unidentified
It's better to ask, uh, better to ask forgiveness rather than permission.
tim pool
Yeah, but I don't know if, like, so we're in an adventure center area where there's tons of people.
I don't know if setting a cat on fire is something that sounds adventurous to me.
phil labonte
I don't know about anyone else.
That sounds like an adventure that I'd be interested in.
luke rudkowski
If they understood what was happening, they would be for it.
tim pool
There's the other thing we can do where we can set up a pyre.
You know how they do it?
phil labonte
Yeah, a funeral pyre.
tim pool
Yeah, a funeral pyre.
And like, we'll make- we'll do something really great.
phil labonte
Right outside of Chicken City.
luke rudkowski
Who's gonna shoot the bow?
unidentified
You?
luke rudkowski
I don't want to shoot it.
riley moore
You might want to do a crossbow.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, I have a crossbow.
riley moore
They're very accurate.
tim pool
We've got a bunch of bows, and I'm not going to pretend like I'm actually good or anything, but accurate enough to where I'm not super worried about it.
But we'll do a funeral pyre, we won't do a boat.
luke rudkowski
I like the boat idea.
I mean, he deserves a boat, I think.
phil labonte
If he's out in the water and you shoot a flaming arrow, I mean, you are shooting into the water.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, yeah.
That's fine.
riley moore
You come over to the West Virginia side.
luke rudkowski
People fish with bows and arrows all the time.
It's totally fine.
riley moore
Come to the West Virginia side.
I know the guy that owns River Riders.
Sure, he'd let you do it.
phil labonte
There you go.
unidentified
No problem.
tim pool
Figure out a Viking funeral for Mr. Bogus.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
We could maybe find somebody who's like an expert archer to do the official, you know, set up.
luke rudkowski
Or everyone has a... Yeah, just 50 of us.
riley moore
Or everybody takes a shot.
phil labonte
My arrows will blot out the sun.
tim pool
But I also think of getting a little bust made of Mr. Bocas.
Someone sent us a bust of me, and it's funny because downstairs on the table under the TV is a bronze-like bust of my head, and it's very strange for me that it exists, because we made fun of Dr. Fauci for having a painting of himself.
And then I think it was, maybe it was Mike Cernovich, who was like, his daughter probably painted that for him.
And I was like, oh, that's a good point.
And then I walked downstairs, and I'm like, there's a statue of my head right in my own house.
That's awful.
But somebody made it, and it was a gift, and so I really appreciate they did that.
But I'm like, I get it, I get it.
I'll lay off Fauci for the painting thing and call him out for the lying thing.
riley moore
Right.
tim pool
Let's read some more Super Chats.
James Jarvis says Lady at Subway Today got angry with all-male crew taking a while, looked at me, quote, no offense, the problem is there aren't any women.
I told her that's offensive and she's sexist.
I said, no offense.
What if I said inverse?
Nada.
I don't want to say this word because I don't know if it's offensive, so I'll ask Serge first.
unidentified
Oh, no.
Ruineck.
It just means redneck.
tim pool
What?
unidentified
Really?
Why wouldn't you just call me Zef, bro?
Come on.
tim pool
Serge speaks Afrikaans like a ruineck.
unidentified
Ja, ik is een boer, man.
Dank je.
tim pool
Tina Collett says, Tim, be real, would you rather trust a Gen Z-er or a Gen Jones?
Late boomers, early Gen X-ers.
unidentified
That's the first I've ever heard Gen Jones for that.
tim pool
Gen Jones?
unidentified
Probably Gen Jones.
I don't even know.
tim pool
I don't know.
Probably not a Gen Z-er.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I mean, there's a handful that I know that are great.
You know, we've had a few on the show.
We have some working here, but, like, early Gen Xers, late boomers, I think they're alright.
They made Star Trek, you know?
unidentified
Yeah!
tim pool
The next generation.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
tim pool
There you go.
Phil, you're a Gen Xer.
Gen Xer.
phil labonte
There you go.
riley moore
Gen Xer.
tim pool
Good people.
Millennials, oof.
I kind of feel like Gen Xers have a tendency to be okay.
Boomers are a mixed bag and Millennials are like leaning towards being really awful.
Gen Z, I'm not so sure though.
They might be a mixed bag as well.
Maybe.
We'll see.
phil labonte
I don't know.
tim pool
It's going to be interesting in eight years when ten-year-olds today are voting and, you know, you're going to be talking to some... Imagine this.
It's going to be 2032.
I'm going to be in my late 40s, and we're going to have a 25-year-old, highly influential, you know, personality in politics, and I'm going to say something about, you know, look, I know Biden is running for president for the 87th time, you know, he's 100, you know, and then I'm going to say, but don't you remember back in 2026?
When we had Vosch on the show and we talked about the Obama administration, he was like, oh, I was a kid back then, I don't know anything about that.
And I was like, oh man!
Oh man.
phil labonte
Jesus.
That's remarkable.
tim pool
A 22 year old leftist influencer does not know about the Obama era.
They were 10 years old.
Or 12 years old.
phil labonte
Or 10.
He doesn't know anything about the Obama era, but he's going to tell you all about Marx.
tim pool
That's right.
riley moore
That's right.
tim pool
Oh, man.
Dalamar says, Phil, shh, do not bring a spotlight on Gen X. We are quietly taking all the cookies before anyone notices.
I think that is probably the most accurate Biden quote anyone has ever produced.
Listen here, Jack!
provide bada-calf care and chunanashabda pressure. Corn Pop is the old sun bitch in the room,
budja-flurge. And the thing, let's do push-ups and blarja-furbida.
If you ask me, squisley carte-vend, unprepped.
unidentified
Wow.
phil labonte
I think that is probably the most accurate Biden quote anyone has ever produced.
tim pool
Listen here, Jack! We're gonna bada-calf care!
unidentified
What was bada-calf care?
tim pool
People try to decipher what true in and out of Shabbat a pressure was.
So when he said, remember that one?
He was trying to say, I was in the foothills of Afghanistan.
I was in the foothills of Afghanistan.
And that's how it comes out, right?
So we get it.
What is true in and out of Shabbat?
True in and out of Shabbat a pressure.
phil labonte
True international something pressure.
tim pool
Cooperation.
phil labonte
Could be cooperation.
tim pool
True international cooperation under pressure.
Bata calf care.
What's that?
phil labonte
I don't know.
riley moore
It's almost like, have you seen that?
You ever saw that movie, Pootie Tang?
phil labonte
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
riley moore
Pootie Tang.
unidentified
Yeah.
That's a Louis C.K.
movie, yeah?
riley moore
Uh, Chris Rock.
Yeah, Chris Rock did it.
He's like, uh, sign your pity on the run account.
unidentified
Yeah, but didn't Louis C.K.
direct it?
riley moore
I think he did!
Yeah, no, I think you're right.
Yeah, yeah.
unidentified
Yeah, it's funny.
tim pool
Also, he says, Gen X were the last independent generation, but they vowed to raise their kids differently, and the leftists of us started the participation trophies while we were working our fingers to the bone.
I think it was Boomers who did the Participation Trophies, and it was with Millennials, so there's like an in-between phase.
I mean, the whole thing is waves, so it's like you can be in between Gen X and Millennial, you can be at the cusp of Millennial or whatever.
But I was raised by middle-tier Boomers, and everything I knew growing up was all the Participation Trophy stuff.
The Gen Xs at the time were in their late teens and early 20s, and they were not doing that stuff.
They were drinking Pepsi, I think.
That's what it was, right?
phil labonte
I was a Coke kid.
tim pool
Generation Next.
phil labonte
I was a Coke kid.
Coca-Cola.
But the ad was Generation Next for Pepsi.
tim pool
Gen Xers love Pepsi.
I know because the commercials told me.
Let's see what we got.
Danon S says, Gen X has been taking care of ourselves since we were six and y'all are surprised we don't have- we don't de- we don't to deal with everyone else's crap you don't want to deal?
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
I'm not surprised.
phil labonte
Latchkey kids.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Where are we at?
Mike Bouvat says, Joe Biden equals post turtle when you're driving down a country road you come across a fence post with a turtle balanced on top.
That's a post turtle.
Is that where you're asking yourself, how did I get there?
phil labonte
I think so.
I'm not sure.
tim pool
So what people don't know is that turtles will stack.
Turtles like climbing on top of each other, and then spreading their legs out to dry off.
And so what happens is, the turtles will go up to the fences and stack on top of each other, and then eventually one is up on top, and then the others will leave, and you get a turtle up top, or they fall over.
So there was this old song ten years ago, it's about building a turtle fence, so it was Shmoyoho on YouTube, took this congressional testimony about building a turtle fence and then did an autotune version of it.
It's actually really funny.
The turtles that were climbing turtles couldn't get over the turtle fence.
And it's really, really, it's a great song.
It's like, you know, because it was, it was two feet tall, so the turtles couldn't get over.
riley moore
Is Kamala gonna climb Biden or the other way around?
tim pool
Uh, ooh, spicy.
luke rudkowski
Don't give me that visual.
tim pool
John Kirsten says, Luke has gone full Alex Jones.
phil labonte
He's like, and?
riley moore
No comment.
tim pool
Where are we at?
Dalimar says, the bunny is CIA.
phil labonte
Oh, God.
tim pool
Yeah, he was, he was.
Daniel says, Phil, for two days in a row, good X-mas gift.
Phil, as a fan of Halo and read the books, what was your opinion of the Halo series on Paramount?
phil labonte
Terrible.
It was atrocious.
I was really bummed out.
Yeah, it was terrible and I was bummed out.
tim pool
Mindfury1980 says, New Ian is rolling 20s tonight.
phil labonte
Where are the dice?
tim pool
They're all there!
phil labonte
100-sided dice.
tim pool
There's like 12.
phil labonte
I was looking for the 20-sided, but yeah.
tim pool
There's a 20-sided right there.
It's grey, and they're all 20s.
phil labonte
There you go.
tim pool
So no matter what you do, you roll a 20.
And then I think that one's the green one you grabbed.
It's like a 120-sided die.
The green and red one.
And then those orbs are 100-sided metal die that are very heavy.
phil labonte
Oh, he's got a bunch of guitar picks.
I'm leaving a guitar pick, too.
tim pool
And there's a ton of rocks everywhere.
phil labonte
There are rocks everywhere.
tim pool
And he brought an abacus up here.
phil labonte
He has a lot of accoutrement.
That's right.
tim pool
And he has graphene spray.
Yeah, look at it.
What is it?
Graphene Flex Spray.
Don't spray anything with it.
phil labonte
They're not kidding.
Ian, I love you.
I'm leaving you with Jason Richards and Luke again.
unidentified
No, it's funny.
tim pool
If you think about it, Luke has like these health drinks.
He's got like five different kind of health drinks over there.
luke rudkowski
And my machete.
tim pool
And a machete.
And then I've actually just got monitors.
And I've got a tech deck over here now.
I've got a little finger board.
phil labonte
A little mini stream lab?
tim pool
Yeah, well I just like controlling it.
phil labonte
Stream deck?
tim pool
But, uh, Ian's certainly.
At the new building we're setting up, we're gonna create, we mentioned, uh, it's a cafe.
We're gonna do Ian's Crystal Cove.
And it's the first floor, you, you open the curtains, and that's where the TV, and it's, like, dimly lit, and there'll be, like, lights everywhere, like, creepy, like, you know what I mean, like, lava lamp kinda lights.
Brick Google up the the scene from from Mall Rats where Brody goes to the dirt mall to talk to the talk to the woman the the three nipple woman and that's the that's the that's the that's what I imagine Ian's Crystal Cove It's actually a decently large area where there's like a mezzanine on top so we have the space underneath where we can, it's big, and we're gonna, it's like, I don't know, like 15 by 15 or like, I don't know, it might be like 20 by 20, and so we're gonna put TVs, couches, and that's where you'll chill and drink your coffee, and then you can go upstairs, play games, it'll be a lot of fun.
All right, Strider says, Tim, the Peripheral was a book first in 2014.
In the book, was the jackpot started with the Texas secessionist movement, though?
Revolution or whatever?
Because in the movie, I'm sure they take, you know, certain artistic leeway, if you know what I mean.
All right, I can't read your name.
Says, Phil, while I know it wasn't written for it, Madness was the official song for the Afghanistan debacle.
It got me through that situation and continues to do so.
Thank you.
phil labonte
Cool.
Good.
It was not written for it, but it probably sums it up pretty nicely.
tim pool
All right, Patriot American says, Tim, I've been a fan since 2019, and I've been thinking about applying for a job at TimCast, specifically the gaming team.
I have natural experience with writing game manuscripts and researching what's needed for the game to succeed.
I appreciate it!
Right now, we are working on a roguelike, platformer-ish kind of game that we really don't have anybody to hire for right now.
If that investment works and the game goes out and it makes sense, then we'll expand and we'll do more.
But for the time being, we don't really have much there in that department.
Like, we haven't even launched anything yet, so, you know, it is what it is.
And I've talked about, like, do we hire more coders and developers?
And it's just like, that wouldn't do anything.
Like, you can't have a bunch of people, you know, just too many cooks in the kitchen.
We're not making a very complicated game is the simplest way to put it.
All right, Salty Duckling says the Pope's omen is code.
He's trying to tell us that the World Economic Forum people have revealed the full plan to him, and his conscience had a moment of guilt.
He can't say that out loud, though.
Abstaining is a real thing.
phil labonte
Yeah, but they wrote books about it, too.
So it's not like a secret.
Like, Klaus Schwab literally put out a book called The Great Reset.
The plans that they have that everyone's taught acts like it's some big secret conspiracy theory, they're so secret they publish books that you can purchase on Amazon to find out the deep behind the meaning.
tim pool
So maybe their goal is, if you're smart enough to read the book, you'll be okay, and if you're not smart enough to read the book, welcome to Darwin.
phil labonte
It's maliciously simple, or deviously simple.
tim pool
Not always.
I make mistakes sometimes.
Everyone does.
unidentified
else noticed that Luke always rolls a 20? Not always. I make mistakes sometimes. Everyone
tim pool
does. Well, I suppose. Makisma Mojo says, Ian is rolling 20s tonight. And then a picture
of a rabbit emoji. Tony says, born 1960, we are called tweeners, not boomers.
Boomers were of age to be drafted to Vietnam.
Interesting.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Michael says, Tim, name your dark coffee.
A.M.
Samani.
It's a chicken that is black from feathers to bones and organs.
Also, Biden signed an executive order while saying, I don't know what this says.
He was just told to sign it by Pelosi.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
For real?
That happened?
phil labonte
I fully believe it.
tim pool
Yeah, me too.
riley moore
Yeah, that's like the student cancellation stuff.
He's like, the bill passed by just a couple of votes.
There was no bill.
There was no bill.
phil labonte
What are you talking about?
tim pool
Unite Don't Fight says, the fourth turning 2028 date coincides with the biblical date of the end times.
The last generation was born on 3-14-48, when Israel rebuilt itself, fulfilling prophecy.
A generation is considered to be 80 years.
Phil, marry me.
Well, that last part was a curveball.
unidentified
Yeah, out of nowhere.
phil labonte
What's your name, homie?
tim pool
You knights don't fight.
phil labonte
Okay.
riley moore
There you go.
tim pool
Let's see what we got.
Andrew Gailing says, huge fan, Phil.
I'm currently working on opening a large music venue and constantly have your music playing while I work on this project.
Cool stuff.
unidentified
Right on.
phil labonte
Thank you.
I love you.
tim pool
There we go.
Carl Flynn says the rabbit emoji in Elon's tweet wasn't even white, it was gray.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Yep.
unidentified
Good point.
tim pool
Yes, sir.
All right.
Mr. Duck says, Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, Festivus, buy a Papa John's pizza.
I recommend mayo on my pizza.
Keep doing the good work.
phil labonte
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
What?
Mayo on a pizza?
tim pool
I guess.
You ever put ranch on pizza?
phil labonte
Ranch?
Yeah, just... I mean, mayo is a shock!
tim pool
Mayo just... Ranch is basically mayo.
riley moore
I can't get down with that.
tim pool
Mayonnaise on pizza?
riley moore
No.
tim pool
You know what I wouldn't, but I would do if you mix mayo and barbecue together.
That's what I like doing.
luke rudkowski
What's wrong with mayo?
phil labonte
On a pizza.
riley moore
On a pizza though?
luke rudkowski
Yeah, I would say like... It's on your sandwiches.
Why wouldn't it be on a pizza?
Don't be a mayo hater.
tim pool
But here's the thing.
You're saying no mayo on pizza, but if you take mayo and sprinkle some, like, celery salt in it, it's fine?
phil labonte
I just wouldn't put mayo on a pizza.
As a topping on a pizza, no.
tim pool
No, you dip it.
phil labonte
Uh, I would, personally, I think the flavor of mayonnaise is a little too bland and pointless for, uh, because mayo kind of only adds, really kind of, it only adds, it adds a bit of a texture and it adds some saltiness to your food, mostly.
tim pool
It's like a vinegar.
phil labonte
Yeah, a little bit of vinegar, yep.
tim pool
Acid?
phil labonte
Yeah, a little acidic, but like you were talking about, Chef Gruel said about the eggs and stuff, add a little acid to it.
tim pool
That was a stroke of genius.
I want to try it.
I, I've, I've, every, every breakfast I've had, I splash a little, uh, balsamic vinegar.
phil labonte
So it's just balsamic right on top of the eggs?
tim pool
No, no, uh, you push the eggs, this is what he said, he said push the eggs to the side, and then you've got like, because I cook the bacon first, and then the stu- the bacon on the pan that's stuck to it, you splash a little vinegar, scrape it and mix it around and flip it around.
phil labonte
And that's for scrambled eggs?
Yeah.
tim pool
I can't even begin to describe how good it is.
luke rudkowski
It's crazy.
phil labonte
I'm gonna try it.
tim pool
Yeah, like, it just changes the eggs.
I can't, you know.
phil labonte
I'm a fan of vinegar anyways, but back to mayo on pizza.
I'm not usually a hater, it just surprised me, and I needed a second to absorb it, that's all.
luke rudkowski
White pizzas are pretty good.
tim pool
Jonathan Warner says, I don't think the 93 is accurate.
you must that on Timcast for two weeks and give us six more uncensored episodes.
Also, when back in Minnesota, I haven't seen you guys since 93 Fest, it's been
forever. Also, if possible, tour with 7Dust.
phil labonte
I don't think the 93 is accurate, because that was a lot longer...
tim pool
93 X Fest or something?
phil labonte
Oh, 93X, oh yes, yes, okay, that's a festival, okay, yes.
I mean, we get out to Wisconsin whenever we can, and we've got some really, really, really phenomenal fans.
One of the best shows of my entire life was in Wisconsin.
So, I don't know when we'll be out there, but we've got new music coming in 23, so keep your eyes open.
unidentified
Cool.
tim pool
Voidraptor says, next year we find out we've already had the Neuralink and have always been in meta.
I tweeted a joke and Elon responded with fire emojis.
So I'll read it for you guys if you didn't see it.
Because people were saying I was making fun of Elon.
I wasn't making fun of Elon.
I was just kind of poking fun in general.
And I guess I was just generally making fun of people.
unidentified
So where's the stupid tweet?
tim pool
I'm digging.
It's coming up somewhere.
I'm looking at my phone.
I said, I used to think Neuralink was scary and dangerous, but then Elon Musk bought Twitter and agreed with me ideologically, so now I think Neuralink is great and want to have my brain plugged into the machine.
And then a bunch of people started commenting and saying things like, do you even actually believe anything?
And I was like, what are you talking about?
It's a shitpost!
And I was like, I love how people try to find deeper meaning in shitposts.
Neuralink is awesome.
I'm excited to see what it can do to save lives.
We'll see how it goes with one-to-one human computer interfacing that's very far off.
Elon responded with fire emojis to the first one, and a bunch of people were like, dude, he's making fun of you.
And I'm like, I'm not making fun of Elon.
I'm like, just making a joke about fanboying and tribalism.
But I said, I responded in all seriousness, I do think Neuralink is great, considering the medical applications, but some scary ethical and philosophical conversations need to be had.
phil labonte
A hundred percent.
tim pool
But some people pointed out the end goal is human-computer interface, and I think that is...
I'm not outright opposed to it.
I do think there are philosophical and ethical challenges to get past in solving for how you do something like that properly.
The issue is just that you can't have a billionaire in control of it.
You can't have anyone in control of it.
If people are linking their brains to machines, I don't even know if it's possible to build a system where there's no centralized control.
phil labonte
I was, we were talking about this a little bit last night and I think that, uh,
getting that kind of connection into your brain, if it's just a, uh, just a, uh, interface, right?
So it's basically takes the place of your thumbs tapping, then I'm not super worried about it. But once you get
beyond that, once it gets past, once it gets to the point where it's
beyond just, you know, that kind of interface, which I, I mean,
you might argue that they already did already have that because the,
they've got, uh, monkeys controlling a video game by their, you know, using neuro link. So maybe they already have, you
riley moore
know, they have a good, like the DNC neuro Lincoln with Fetterman
and, you know, try to figure that one out for them.
unidentified
Well, the first application of Neuralink... It gets so scary once you start really breaking it down, dude.
tim pool
It gets so scary.
The first application, there's no access to any systems outside, but it could correct his brain.
They could put the chip on Fetterman, and Fetterman could be talking like normal and listening like normal.
It could fix those things, theoretically.
The scary point is when you get into read and write mode.
So, you get a Neuralink, It's got wireless, and then someone writes into your brain, changing it, and you don't even realize.
phil labonte
The scariest way that I've been able to conceive it, sitting down thinking of the most terrifying things that I can come up with, is the way that your phone behaves now, right?
But on steroids.
So every time you think a thought, because Neuralink, ostensibly the idea is it's able to read your mind, right?
The future versions of it.
In the future, every time you think a thought that the controller, the power, whatever, you know, the bad guy that you're afraid of, whatever dystopian control you decide you want to be worried about, every time you think a thought that that guy approves of, the Neuralink tells your dopamine center to give you the tiniest little drop of dopamine.
That means every time you think a correct thought, you are unknowingly being conditioned like Pavlov's dog to have a small, unnoticeable, like it would just be, oh, I'm in a good mood.
And if you consistently have Bad thoughts, then you just generally are kind of in a worse mood.
If you consistently have good thoughts, then you're generally in a better mood.
And that's literally controlling your mind just by using the thoughts that you already think
and giving you a positive reward when you think of things that they want
and a negative reward or a negative penalty when you think of things they don't want you to think
and you'd never know it.
riley moore
You thought that's about the way you explained it now.
I imagine the Chinese would love this.
I think anyone would.
Well, if it's able, if my wife is able to program me to take out the trash
at a certain time every day, I'm not for it.
tim pool
But she can do that without—through conditioning, she can do it.
riley moore
Yeah, I mean, I'm not sure if I'm hearing that request, and I'll register it when I'm— She's got a clicker.
When I'm ready.
tim pool
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riley moore
Yeah.
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You can follow me at Riley Moore WV on Twitter.
Same thing on Instagram and also Facebook.
And Just thanks for having me on.
This has been great.
tim pool
Yeah.
Right on, man.
Absolutely.
phil labonte
I am PhilThatRemains.
Phil Labonte.
I sing for the band All That Remains.
You can check me out on Twitter.
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Give me a follow.
I'm an interactive kind of guy.
If you talk smack, I might talk smack back.
So, yeah.
unidentified
Good!
luke rudkowski
Awesome!
Thanks for coming.
This was a great show.
Really appreciated everyone's input.
My YouTube channel is youtube.com forward slash WeAreChanged.
Today I talked about the Pope's comments and how he was right, especially when it comes to international relations and the larger financial picture.
I gave examples of that.
And then on LukeUncensored.com I talked about how he was right because of what's happening with health and our population.
Check out those videos on WeAreChanged on YouTube and LukeUncensored.com.
Thank you guys for having me.
unidentified
And I'm Serge.com, as always, at Serge.com everywhere.
Thanks.
It's been a good show.
Appreciate it.
Glad to be back.
tim pool
Thanks for hanging out, everybody.
We will see you all over at TimCast.com.
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