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Oct. 20, 2022 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool

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Timcast IRL - Putin Tried To Detonate NUKE But Was Sabotaged Claims Insider w/Doug Mastriano

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tim pool ▲ ● ▼		According to a new report, an insider in Moscow is claiming that Vladimir Putin's already
		tried to detonate a nuke, but top brass are sabotaging him.
		I don't know how much I believe it.
		It's really excellent propaganda for the West.
		If we're talking about sending more weapons and resources to Ukraine, the threat of nuclear war certainly might get people riled up.
		But we'll see.
		I mean, you gotta choose who you trust in these reports.
		And that's why I'm careful.
		I'm saying this is what an insider is claiming.
		Take it with a grain of salt.
		However, another report came out.
		On TV, a member of Top Brass in Russia said that Kiev is planning an attack on a dam.
		And now Daily Mail is reporting this is evidence that Russia is planning a false flag attack.
		So, sort through it how you can sort through it.
		Both sides are obviously going to be accusing each other.
		But, you know, I'll put it this way.
		I don't trust Vladimir Putin.
		I don't trust a whole lot of people in this one so that's what makes it so hard.
		Fog of War.
		As Luke's t-shirt says, truth is the first casualty in war.
		So we'll talk about that and we've also got AOC getting heckled at uh it was like a town hall thing she was doing and this is like the second time I think we've seen in the past week where her own constituents are getting angry.
		They're protesting crime.
		One guy stood up and said a 9-11 first responder was attacked.
		What does she do?
		She starts dancing, sticks out her tongue while they're chanting that she's gotta go.
		I think she's losing her grip.
		And then Elon Musk says he's going to fire 75% of Twitter employees once he takes over, so we're all really excited for that.
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		Now, joining us to talk about all of this and a whole lot more is Senator Doug Mastriano.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah, thanks for having me on.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Looking forward to this show.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
		Who are you?
		Can you wanna...
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		So, I'm a Senator in Pennsylvania.
		I have Gettysburg and Chambersburg and Hanover and Shippensburg in my district.
		I'm running to be the next Governor of Pennsylvania.
		I served most of my adult life in uniform in the United States Army for 30 years.
		I started off on the Cold War in the Iron Curtain with my wife, Reby, who's here with us.
		After our initial training, we shipped off to Nuremberg, Germany with the 2nd Cavalry Regiment.
		And patrol the East German and Czechoslovakian borders defending against that kind of a system and ideas and oppression that are now creeping into American society.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		And Revy and I remember the wall coming down and how the people in the East were just excited to be free finally.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		It was amazing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, we've got to make sure that doesn't happen here.
unidentified		We're very passionate because we did see the flip of that.
		People coming out of it, people being separated by that wall from their families for 40 years, and it was pretty oppressive over there, even on the free side.
		We saw a big difference when we moved back to Germany after the wall had come down, and a big difference in just the whole feel of the nation and the culture there.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Rebe, would you like to introduce yourself, please?
unidentified		Yes, I am Doug's wife, Rebecca, go by Rebe, and I'm hoping to be the first lady in Pennsylvania so we can get things in order instead of having all the left agenda moving forward in our state.
unidentified		Most of the Pennsylvanians do not believe that way, and so we want to stand for the people.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I hear you.
		All right, well, thank you both for hanging out with us.
		It's going to be a whole lot of fun.
		We also got the t-shirt vendor himself.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		I was actually on the other side of that wall.
		My family was a part of the Satyadharanosh movement, so I know exactly what you guys are talking about.
		My name's Luke Hradowski here of WeAreChange.org, and I come here to you with one simple message.
		People will forget your words.
		People will forget your actions.
		But no one will forget that you voted for Joe Biden, and that's what reads on my t-shirt.
		Which you can get on TheBestPoliticalShirts.com, and it's a great one to start conversations.
		It's a long-winded one, and you either get one of two reactions.
		One is someone laughing, high-fiving you, or just utter disdain and shock by some individuals.
		And I love having those moments.
		You want to have those moments?
		Get the shirt on TheBestPoliticalShirts.com, because you do.
		I'm here.
		Thank you so much for having me.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And I just want to add, too, I mean, you're walking down the street.
		I see this all the time with you, Luke.
		People will be like, hey, brother, I love your shirt, and they'll high-five.
		You meet people.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		That's a way to build a community, a way to make friends, and a way to start conversations and spread messages that can't be censored!
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		There's a lot of things that can't be censored.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Make fun of people who would've for Joe Biden.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Who thought?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Hey buddy, it's Ian Crossland here, iancrossland.net.
		Let's just keep this ball rolling.
		What's up, Doug?
		Hey, Rebecca.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Good to see you guys.
		And imsurd.com.
		Flipping switches, pushing buttons.
		You know how it is.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There you go.
		All right, let's jump into this first story from timcast.com.
		Putin has already attempted to detonate a nuke.
		Was stopped by sabotage, insider says.
		Russian expert believes senior-level officials are working against Putin to prevent nuclear detonations in Ukraine.
		A Moscow insider has claimed that Russian President Vladimir Putin recently attempted to detonate a nuclear weapon, but that his efforts were sabotaged by top brass at the Kremlin.
		The report published at the Mirror also says unspecified technical issues could account for the failure of Russian nukes in recent weeks.
		Unspecified?
		Well, of course, this could only mean one thing.
		Aliens.
		Because that's the conspiracy theory that whenever the aliens shut down the nukes, people actually talk about it.
		I don't know why they think that's true.
		I mentioned this briefly before the show, I said I think it absolves humanity of responsibility and that's why people want to believe it.
		The reality is, I'll put it this way.
		Yo, world leaders, they're not above you.
		If you sit down in, if you're in a bar, you wouldn't even realize you're talking to someone because people are just people.
		You go into the courts, you meet politicians, you meet enough people, you meet people who are wealthy and own things, and you realize everybody sort of acts the exact same way.
		Obviously people know different things, people have access to different things, but what I'm trying to say here with this is, When your neighbor got angry at you over some petty BS, that same level of emotion can happen with someone like Putin who's got his finger over the button.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Do you think this story is true, Doug?
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		I really don't buy it.
		I don't have any idea what Putin would have to advantage himself by detonating a nuke.
		I mean, obviously he's talking.
		I'm the defender of Putin.
		I actually designed strategies to defend our allies in Eastern and Northern Europe against him.
		I don't want him in the Baltic nations.
		I don't want him in Poland, etc.
		But he needs to talk about nukes as a deterrence against the US and NATO.
		Obviously, a red line for him was 2014, of course, when a new government came in.
		It was pro-West, pro-EU, pro-NATO.
		We've seen a similar situation in 2008, of course, with Georgia.
		Georgia was bucking real hard and working real hard to get NATO membership and Vladimir Putin was like, oh no, you're not.
		So he swept in Abkhazia, South Ossetia in Georgia and waged that war, achieved his objectives, had a buffer zone and then stopped.
		This, I have to say, I'm pleasantly surprised by the actions of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
		Just who would have known that they would be able to stop Vladimir Putin and actually have a counteroffensive?
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well they were training since 2014.
		U.S.
		Special Operations were down there training every single one of them.
		And preparing the landscape.
		And when you're an invading army, you don't have the advantage.
		They have home territory, and they have all the latest and greatest U.S.
		technology.
		Now, I actually read this article, and this article is all over the place.
		Number one, the mirror doesn't have the best reputation.
		And they say in the article, quote, Insider claims the launch was not done because of technical failure or by reluctant military chiefs.
		So again, who's the source?
		Who's telling you these stories?
		And number two, you can't even get the story correct.
		Which one is it?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The Mirror is Stuttgart-certified, Luke.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		What do you mean?
		Stuttgart says it's good.
		And another thing to understand here, there is a chain of command specifically with Russia when it comes to launching nuclear weapons that people should know about, because it's not just Vladimir Putin pressing his finger on the button.
		He also, in Russia, they also have something that's sort of similar, like the nuclear football, but they have a briefcase that essentially notifies the general staff.
		The general staff have access to the launch codes.
		Then after the general staff get the launch codes, they could give it to individual weapons commanders.
		Then they, of course, execute the procedure.
		Then they send the nuke.
		So that's the protocol.
		That's the chain of command that they have in Russia, which I think It's also important to understand here, it's not just one guy pressing a button, and there are ways that the chain of command, the general staff, or the individual commanders could say, no, this is crazy, and that's a likely scenario here.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Okay, but how about this?
		Putin leaked the story on purpose to scare people in the West to think that he's actively prepared and wants to use nukes.
		You know what I mean?
		Like Sabre Rattle to the extreme degree.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		There is merit to that.
		We listen to any of his major speeches and usually something about nukes comes up.
		Or through a proxy of his.
		And so yes, that's his deterrent model.
		Much as Saddam Hussein, I was part of Desert Storm Liberating Kuwait.
		A war for energy, by the way.
		We knew that.
		But then Saddam Hussein got rid of his chemical biological weapons, didn't tell the West, but he kept talking about he's going to use them against us as a deterrent.
		So I do believe that that's a possibility.
		Putin wants us to know that if we take it to the next level, there's a high danger that it's going to escalate.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What do you think?
		You know, I'm not asking because I haven't read a lot about this or that the audience doesn't have an idea, but I'm curious your thoughts.
		Why do you think Putin decided to invade Ukraine and why is this happening?
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Vladimir Putin has a bunch of problems on his hands.
		First off is this single commodity country.
		Basically it's oil and gas.
		A few years ago it was $70 billion a year.
		Now it's over $100 billion thanks to the gas prices.
		A couple issues though.
		Ukraine has been drawing closer and closer to the EU, NATO, and the United States.
		The government is very pro since 2014 when most of these troubles began.
		He also has a population problem in that his demographics are shrinking as far as ethnic
		European Russians.
		I'm not talking about the Asians that make up most of his country.
		And that demographic, he would like to have them in my studies within his sphere of influence.
		I think the most vulnerable place in Europe, other than Ukraine, is Eastern Latvia, Dagobils.
		When I visited there some years ago, I did not feel safe and I was there in civilian clothes with a Danish buddy of mine and it's like 90% ethnic Russian and most of the Russians there stayed as a result of the Cold War being stationed there.
		Their dads were military members or intel officials.
		And they're receiving a stipend from Moscow, by the way, as well, about up to a thousand dollars a month to live.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		The Russian citizens that are there?
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		The Latvians who are ethnic Russians.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, things don't look very promising for the Russian Empire, and population decline is another major factor.
		And now, with this war, that only has been exacerbated that much.
		It's a petrostate.
		Ukraine is also going to challenge them, specifically with the national resources that they have, the gas that they have, specifically in the regions that Vladimir Putin now is occupying inside of Ukraine.
		So there's a lot of things happening behind the scenes.
		There's, of course, NATO and their influence and them being on their border.
		There's, of course, the sphere of influence that Russia wants to still maintain in this specific region.
		And it's a back and forth challenge.
		And I think it was a desperate move.
		It was a desperate situation.
		And it's a crazy situation that's only going to get crazier from here.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		And he needed a decisive knockout blow in that first week.
		When the Russian air assault and airborne units came into the airport outside of Kiev, those were Putin's best forces.
		There's two armies in Russia that I call.
		You have the specially trained, highly motivated ones like the airborne special forces air assault, and then you have the rest.
		And the rest right now you're seeing being grinded down by the Ukrainians.
		When they were beaten back, That was a clear sign that Putin was in trouble.
		This is going to be a long, protracted interview.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I remember seeing that.
		Seeing them land in the airport, inside of Kiev, and then not hearing anything else about them.
		Because they were nowhere to be found.
		And I'm like, that doesn't really make sense.
		This looks like a failed operation.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Russia's A-team.
		But if you remember in Grozny, when the Russians... It's about buffer states.
		You said it.
		It's a buffer.
		Because Napoleon and the Germans and two wars and what have you.
		So, when the first attempt to go into Grozny in the Caucasus, the Russians were beaten back, and eventually came back with overwhelming force.
		I don't think Putin has that leeway, though, right now.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Do you think it's reasonable, in the sense of an armistice, for eastern Ukraine to be split between the Ukrainians and the Russians, those freeways that go into Crimea?
		I think that's ultimately the goal, is to take those freeways to turn Crimea and Sevastopol into a trade hub.
		But do you think that's reasonable for Ukraine and Russia to share those freeways, to each take one, or neutralize the territory in some sense?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Are you saying, like, the eastern region goes to Russia?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Or make it neutral, or just the freeway from the Donbass, there's two of them, and one of them could be Ukrainian and one of them could be Russian.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		So, the land bridge that you're describing, Ian, is exactly what Vladimir Putin needed.
		And I think, actually, his idea of driving that land bridge east, I'm sorry, west towards the Transnistria, which is a breakaway republic on the Ukrainian-Romanian borders, I think he wants to have a broader pro-Russian area underneath his grasp.
		It does remind me a bit, analogies historically are dangerous, but Sudetenland, 1938, Czechoslovakia, Germans there, In Czechoslovakia and of course I'm gonna go and the bad guy Hitler goes in and liberates liberates quote-unquote and we're seeing a similar thing but the problem with Putin has is the resolve of the West.
		I mean how many billions of dollars of American money has gone in there?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		At least a hundred on the books.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Well there's secret budgets and then there's public budgets.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		The public budget is around 60 to 80 to 100 people guesstimate right now but the house right now is talking about doing another 60 billion bill specifically just for Ukraine.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		That's a lot of And you think about it, the Germans are so proud because they came out and they announced they're giving $2 billion to the Ukrainians to fight the Russians.
		The dirty little secret is they're paying $2 billion a month for Russian oil and gas.
		The hypocrisy.
		You know, when Trump, remember in 2018 in the UN, Trump gave a speech and lectured the Germans about real life?
		And they were laughing at him and mocking him.
		Who's laughing now?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, not the working class in this country who are looking at their gas tanks.
		We hit, what was it, five something a gallon, it went down, now it's going back up.
		California, it's eight bucks in some parts.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Or the Germans who are told, prepare not to take hot showers this winter because of energy costs.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Did you hear this?
		The BBC is preparing scripts for when they have to announce the blackouts in the UK.
		That was the Guardian, we talked about that the other day.
unidentified		Yeah.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Do you see any resolution to this?
		Because all I'm seeing is escalation, escalation.
		Obviously, the winter is going to stop a lot of the fighting, but Putin is kind of posturing like he might launch another invasion from the north of Belarus right now.
		All I see is escalations.
		Do you see any way that this could possibly de-escalate?
		I know Putin said he's open to negotiations during the upcoming G20 meeting.
		Do you think that's going to be successful?
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		I viewed a Russian broadcast last night that was talking about how there's going to be no operations this winter.
		I think there probably will be, but it'll be minor.
		I see no off-ramp this year.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		What do you think an off-ramp would look like?
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		A negotiated peace, but it's going to have to be the United States.
		This is a hard thing to say.
		Do you tell Ukraine to give up, you know, Ukrainian territory?
		You know what the sad thing is?
		Well, is it sad?
		I don't know.
		In 1994, the Bucharest Treaty, remember that?
		Ukraine was like the third largest nuclear power in the world at the time.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		And the United States, Russia, and Great Britain promised to defend their borders if they'd give up the nukes.
		And they gave up the nukes, and who's defending their borders?
		That's the problem we have.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		And Russia promised not to invade them if they gave the nukes.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		And then here we are today.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And the problem with this is it sends a signal to every country, build nukes as fast as possible or else.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's nightmarish.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		That's what the Indian General Staff, after the desert storm in 1991, and that was my first combat experience there, they did a study in 92 saying we have to get nukes to prevent this kind of attack on us from any country, not specifically the United States.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		They're the breadbasket of Europe.
		And they have a long, tumultuous history.
		I call them the Afghanistan of Europe.
		Because when you look at all the violence, all the bloodshed, specifically in Ukraine, it is a major clash point.
		And people were kidding themselves not to see this as an upcoming major proxy war that's happening right now.
		And, you know, I could only hope it de-escalates, but I think this could even last a decade.
		I think it could even last more than that, especially with the way that these wars are fought, especially with how close the people are, especially how there's neighbors fighting against each other, which is atrocious, which is absolutely horrible.
		I think we should try to stop it, but at the same time, I don't see it stopping anytime soon.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You'd have to... Ukraine would have to sacrifice the eastern region.
		They'd have to give that up.
		Unless, you know, Putin just eventually gives up, but I think Putin can and will use nukes.
		I'll be at... I don't have nearly the military expertise you do, Senator, but my concern is that Putin is... he's ideological and he's...
		He's looking at the end of the great Russian empire, of what Russia is.
		I don't see him just eventually going like, well, you know, we lost this one.
		I think he looks at it like, we will be great, we will never back down under no circumstances.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		If he loses in Ukraine, he's done.
unidentified		Right.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		And you know, you hear rumblings now.
		I don't think it's as viable as Western commentators are saying.
		Because he's been very successful in eliminating opposition around him the past, you know, two decades, actually.
		He's actually the longest ruler since the Czars at this point here.
		I mean, it's incredible.
		Ukraine, I mean, wow, if they can push through this winter here and then have time to rearm and refit and retrain with all this new equipment and this money, hopefully, that's going to the battlefield, I mean, they might be able to start putting the Russians back.
		But then what do you do, Vladimir Putin, when your armies are pushed out?
		And that might happen.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Well, this is why the Chinese have a weird kind of situation on their hands here, because they're a big trading partner with Ukraine.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Chinese are.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Well, this is why the Chinese have a weird kind of situation on their hands here because
		they're a big trading partner with Ukraine.
		They have a lot of relations with Ukraine.
		But at the same time, they're still geopolitically opposed against the United States.
		So this is a very weird situation for them.
		They're kind of like one foot in, one foot out.
		But I think they're also a country that we should be looking at right now, especially when it comes to Taiwan, especially when it comes to the bigger geopolitical picture, especially with BRICS and the petrodollar in question with Saudi Arabia.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let me pull up this next story real quick and we'll get back into it.
		From the Daily Mail, Russia plans false flag attack on hydroelectric dam to flood Kursan in latest attack on energy plants as Ukraine brings in four-hour blackouts to tackle electricity shortages.
		So that's bad.
		Now, what they're saying is General Sergei Serovaikin Russia's new supreme commander in Ukraine has spoken to Russian media in recent days about what he called a devastating strike on the Nova Kokovka dam, which he said was being plotted by Kiev's troops.
		Serovaikin, who has also been preparing the Russian public for a retreat from the region, said the blast would flood Kursan and cause widespread damage.
		They go on to mention in the article that according to experts from the study of war, it's actually them prepping us to accept a false flag attack.
		Because what's really happening is they're saying, hey, look, they're going to attack us, then they blow the dam, knocking out power in the region, retreating, and then blaming Ukraine for it.
		Who do you believe?
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Go ahead.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		You wanted to say something before.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		You know, I've studied Russia and the Soviet Union and now Russia for 30 some years, and They think half-European and half-Asian.
		I mean, they're underfoot, like you said, actually.
		They're in both camps.
		Kind of like with China.
		They are sometimes oriental in their thinking.
		In the end, for Putin, it's about his survival, his power base, and after that, what's better for his vision for Russia.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		I covered this story in my earlier video today on my channel, and it's the United States and US Intel saying Russia's going to launch a false flag attack to flood this.
		Russia is saying the same thing on their state television, and everything they're saying is almost the same exact thing, except you reverse the major actors here.
		They're saying the United States is going to be launching a false flag attempt, and we've seen this kind of rhetoric heat up, especially today, which is concerning, to say the least.
		Anything could happen.
		I think we should always be skeptical.
		But when it comes to this larger war, we have to understand that there's also unconventional warfare.
		What happened to Nord Stream wasn't an accident.
		And I think we have to look at our infrastructure as it's also a potential target for the Russians or the Chinese or even third parties that could intervene and say, hey, it could be in our interest to spark up this conflict, make it a bigger conflict.
		And it might not even be Russia or the United States that could set up a false flag.
		It could be a third party, a country, or another special group that comes in there and it's like, okay, fight each other as we rise to power.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		So obviously the concern is is a humanitarian crisis.
		So we had the deeper rivers cut off the Russian troops, of course, that are on in the Kherson side of the west side of the river.
		The Ukrainians are poised, they've knocked out most of the bridges, the Russians are resupplying with pontoons and boats and what have you.
		That can't be sustained for long combat operations.
		So when, if there's Russian forces tracked, I think that dam is going down no matter what.
		What's surprising to me in my early days in the army, the Soviets, the Russians, were far better at disinformation and information operations than they are today.
		Putin has two audiences, the international audience and of course his domestic.
		His domestic audience thinks he's fantastic.
		He's got 80 some percent, you know, positives despite the bad news.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Does he really though?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		How much can we trust of their media?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		According to Trifalgar.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		I do think he tends to be popular.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		I mean, he's the macho man.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		You know, we have that image ingrained in our brains, you know, in a t-shirt on the back of a... He has high approval numbers because he turned Russia from an international joke to a place that, of course, made sure that people weren't drinking all the time.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		One of the biggest reasons why Putin is as popular as he is is because he's not drunk all the time like the previous leader was.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Yeltsin.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
		And then when you see him reprimand people who do get drunk, who are in the factories, who are in, you know, major institutions of power in Russia, he makes an example out of them.
		And even when there's occasions to have a drink or have a shot or have cheers, he's like, no, I'm not doing it.
		So that's, you know, one reason why people see him as this kind of, you know, savior to Russia and their interests and their country.
		But at the end of the day, it's just another politician.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		And how long can he last with losses and casualties stacking up?
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		I mean, Afghanistan, you know, eight years later on, eight years of war with Afghanistan, they finally withdrew in 1989.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean... But this is Russia's strategy, isn't it always been?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Just send ridiculous amounts of your troops until you just overwhelm your opponents?
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		That has been their approach since World War, actually since World War One.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Not in Vietnam.
		They were happy to fight the limited war by sending arms into Vietnam.
		I think after World War Two, they realized it's just not a tenable way to fight.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		So proxy wars, using allies against the United States.
		And then that flipped in the 80s when Reagan started using proxies in Latin America and elsewhere and in Africa as well.
		And then in Afghanistan, where we, you know, we've commonly realized we don't have to do all the fighting.
		So, you know, the policeman of the world, remember that?
		I mean, that notion from some years ago.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Limited war.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		It was a Henry Kissinger doctrine that they kind of instituted.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Vladimir Putin is using this culture war rhetoric.
		There's a lot of people who feel that in the West right now we've got these degenerate, deviant, and just abhorrent ideologies emerging from the left.
		Vladimir Putin seems to be capitalizing that, outright calling out this stuff as Satanism, and so there are a lot of people even in the U.S.
		who think he's actually this, it's this great Christian nation fighting back against evil and degeneracy.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he's also speaking out against child conversion therapy.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But is this him realizing there's an opportunity to propagandize, or does he actually believe the things he's saying?
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, he has a problem on his hands, because I know he wants to identify that as traditionally Russia, but Russia today is becoming more and more increasingly Muslim than it is Christian or European.
		So, you know, what is Russia today?
		It's hard to get our minds around, you know, in America, but I think that's part of his land grab with, you know, south of Sesepkazi in Georgia and now in eastern Ukraine.
		They're ethnic Russians.
		But something really went wrong.
		Since 2014 Vladimir Putin has managed to forge a Ukrainian identity, whether you're ethnic Ukrainian or ethnic Russian.
		They now identify fully as Ukrainian.
unidentified		Most of them.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		There's always exceptions.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I was there when the Maidan protests started.
		It was awesome.
		The food was great.
		I saw the building that they set on fire.
		I got to see the statue that they'd pulled down of Lenin.
		It was a long, complicated story on how that all went down, but I met a lot of these people, a lot of young people.
		And they all basically said the same thing.
		We remember what it was like under the Soviet Union, and we never want to go back.
		So there are a lot of people who talk about the Eastern region, and it's probably true for in the East, a lot of people who are ethnically Russian, they speak Russian and view themselves as more Russian.
		But then you're going to end up with a split in the country from people who are like, I remember the Soviets, you know, we're not happy with that.
		And then there's gonna be a lot of people who are just like, I don't trust the West.
		I don't like their ideology.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		You remember, and that's interesting because their grandparents lived through the Holomodir, however you say it, the forced starvation by Stalin.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Holodomor.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's it.
		In what, 32, 33 over the winter?
		Yeah.
		And 7 to 10 million, we don't even know how many died, Ukrainians, and it happened in other countries.
		I mean, it's a tough situation, and Putin is stuck now.
		He didn't have his decisive knockout blow, he did not get Zelensky, he did not take Kiev, and now he's stuck in this fight.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm just surprised.
		I mean, there are a lot of people who firmly believe Putin is winning.
		I think that's just not true.
		I know there's propaganda, and it really annoys me.
		Like, you pull up American social media, and every single video is like some Ukrainian soldier flicking a cigar, being like, ha ha ha, and I'm like, come on.
		Like, I know they're not winning every single fight, you know, but you look at where the major news is breaking, where the major moves are happening, and what Putin's doing, and like, yeah, they're getting pushed out.
		But there's a lot of people who just, I suppose they don't want to believe it, they want to believe that, you know, Russia is winning, he's advancing, Ukraine is not winning.
		My thought on this is just...
		Did Putin not realize that NATO was going to be a proxy war with NATO?
		You have Russian pundits saying, since the beginning of this, I think in March, they're like, we're at war with NATO.
		Okay, did he think he was going to win that?
		We're providing intelligence, we're providing weapons, training.
		Not only that, our citizens, volunteers, And now we're learning from The Intercept actual U.S.
		special operations on the ground in Ukraine.
		Why would Putin think he's going to go up against NATO and win?
		Is it a last stand or what is it?
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think he underestimated the resolve of the Ukrainians, which I did too as well.
		I'm surprised that they were able to beat back the air assault, airborne forces, and
		then, you know, overestimated his own forces.
		On paper, good army, pretty modernized, you know, the front line forces, but look what
		happened.
		I mean, but this also betrays a point here.
		We have to, and Pennsylvania plays a role in this.
		I mean, energy.
		Yeah.
		So we're now in this energy crisis here.
		We're told gas prices are going up because of Putin.
		That's Biden's line.
		But Pennsylvania has the resources to become a leader in energy in the world with our natural
		We have one of the largest natural gas deposits around the globe.
		We have great high quality coal.
		We have high quality oil.
		So my goal as governor, of course, is to make us number one in energy production.
		There's a hundred billion dollars of potential wealth out there to be received by Pennsylvania if we can produce that much.
		You know, it's all about capability.
		My goal is to have a pipeline to Philly, out to Delaware, so we can start exporting to Boston.
		Because Boston had to bring in Russian ships in 2018 in that cold winter.
		You remember the madness?
		Because there's no pipelines from Pennsylvania.
		So they brought in two ships from Siberia, 4,000 miles away.
		So I want to be able to support Boston, but maybe export also to Germany, get them off of Russian oil and gas, and maybe our friends in Poland.
		And for sure, the Lithuanians have already committed that they want to buy it off of Pennsylvania.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I was willing to entertain a lot of this Go Green stuff for a while, but the moment you come out and say, you know, Joe Biden says he wants to get us off fossil fuels, he says it was part of his campaign when he ran for president, then he shuts down Keystone, then he bans fracking in certain areas, and then he goes to Saudi Arabia and begs for oil.
		I'm like, it's not about getting, it's not about stopping fossil fuels.
		I don't know what the actual, actually let me just ask you.
		How does this make sense?
		That we gotta stop using fossil fuels and then he hurts the United States and then goes over to Saudi Arabia and begs them to keep up production so we can keep getting fossil fuels.
		What's the reasoning?
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		That when we were energy independent and gas was under two bucks a gallon.
		184.
		184.
		Just less than, what, two years ago.
		Just over two years ago.
		And now we're begging the Saudis and even go to the Venezuelans and kind of winking and nodding to the Iranians.
		Are you kidding me?
		And exporting our wealth over these foreign countries who aren't really that friendly.
		I mean, we have a good relation with the Saudis because of necessity because who's around them and it's a rough neighborhood.
		But Pennsylvania, United States ought to be energy independent.
		And that's one thing, you know, this is the age of governors.
		You know, I'm glad you brought other candidates on the show here.
		Pennsylvania can lead the way in making America energy independent once again.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Why do you think it is that they're advocating for no energy independence at home while begging others for energy?
		I mean, do we just not understand?
		Or is it just, I wonder if it's that Democrats know their base wants environmentalism, but they also know you can't have cheap gas and environmentalism, so they're just lying.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		I think it's exactly that.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		I think they're driven by a gross ideology here that's making life harder and more expensive than the working class people the Democrats claim they represent.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let me jump to this story real quick.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Before doing that, you know, they got to build back better somehow.
		What better way than to destroy the previous version of it?
		And I really wanted to ask you a question, Doug, because the Biden administration has specifically stopped domestic energy exploration and production.
		Will they stand in your way as governor?
		And can they stop you from doing what you want to do?
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		In state, that's my ballywag.
		On state lands, I completely control that.
		On private lands, with the cooperation of Atlantos, I don't know if we have time, I've got a four-pronged approach.
		It's called the Pennsylvania Energy Independence Act.
		It's not a gimmick.
		It's actually, I developed this with the energy sector.
		And of course, we want to do it responsibly.
		We want to do it cleanly.
		We don't want our trout being killed and poisoning our land, obviously.
		We want cancer causing agents and the energy sector has proven they can do it better.
		The first part of course is rolling back our entry into this regional greenhouse gas initiative,
		RGGI, which is a carbon tax.
		It's increased, it's doubled almost our cost of energy in Pennsylvania starting the
		first of June.
		So on day one we're going to be out of it when I'm sworn in on 17 January and you'll
		see immediate relief for the working class people out there, savings in energy.
		So it's not a choice between heating and eating.
		Part two of that, of course, is rolling back about eight years of regulations from our
		Department of Environmental Protection within Pennsylvania that have gone too far because
		it's so restrictive that they're driving energy businesses to Ohio, West Virginia, and Texas.
		I want them back in Pennsylvania.
		And then, of course, I talked about the pipeline, one coming across from the Pittsburgh area
		to Philly.
		And that will bring lots of great jobs.
		It will bring security as far as energy goes.
		It will improve it for NATO.
		It's from the Daily Wire.
		Bill Gates on energy crisis.
		And so, and then of course I'll open up state lands.
		And doing that, I can do all that without being stopped by the EPA.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let me pull up this story. It's from the Daily Wire.
		Bill Gates on energy crisis. It's good for the long run.
		The reason I think this is so important, let me give you a bit of context here.
		They say, the billionaire and Microsoft co-founder explained during an interview with CNBC that although global economies cannot immediately discard oil and gas, current shortages in the European energy market will prompt a faster transition away from fossil fuels.
		Now, without the Russian natural gas being available in Europe, it's a setback.
		We need to find non-Russian hydrocarbon sources to substitute for those.
		Keeping those economies in decent shape is a priority.
		Now, on the other hand, it's good for the long run, because people won't want to be dependent on Russian natural gas, so they'll move to these new approaches more rapidly.
		Here's the point.
		For all of the people that are very concerned about climate change and the environment and all that stuff, hey man, I hear ya.
		But these people are lying to you.
		They're saying it's good that Europe's in an energy crisis right now.
		Italy, they're using candlelight for their stores.
		The UK is preparing scripts, this is the Guardian reporting, the BBC's preparing these scripts for when the blackouts hit.
		So now you've got, in the United States, you've got gas in California at $8.
		You've got gas on the rise nationally.
		It's over $4 or something right now.
		They're telling you we have to stop using this stuff because of climate change.
		And then Joe Biden goes to, as you mentioned, Venezuela, Saudi Arabia, and just says, keep up their production.
		They clearly still want this stuff.
		Their agenda is political, and it does not match what they're saying at home.
		So I used to be all about, like, okay, you know, let's find renewable energies.
		Then I saw them going overseas to our adversaries, so we're dependent on them.
		Okay, Bill Gates can point out we don't want to be dependent on Russia.
		You know what that means?
		It means American energy independence.
		It doesn't mean walking away from it.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		And we have it.
		And, you know, I'm no fool.
		I'm cognizant.
		I'll be challenged, of course, by the EPA and the Biden administration when I'm governor next year.
		But we're going to do it because that's underneath the constitutional power of the states.
		The reason why I would say this is the age of the governors.
		We saw during the COVID shutdown, which was eye opening for all of us, whether conservative or not, we saw how dangerous this trend was towards tyranny and stripping away our freedoms that we just took for granted.
		We saw Pennsylvania with very restrictive powers by Governor Wolf and what never was a governor more appropriately named.
		And then, of course, And of course, Ron DeSantis in Florida.
		And I kind of say this jokingly, but I really do mean it.
		I want to bring a little bit of Florida to Pennsylvania, as far as freedoms go.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but guys, this is not what Bill Gates wants.
		And what Bill Gates wants is what Bill Gates gets, okay?
		He paid how much money to the corporate media?
		$250 million?
		He bought a lot of influence here.
		He helped spur on the Inflation Reduction Act, which doesn't actually reduce inflation.
		But we have to understand here, when he's talking about New approaches?
		He's also talking about specifically the businesses that he has invested in.
		So he's not talking about energy independence because of the United States drilling and exploring domestic energy.
		He's talking about unproven technologies that, again, have not been tested, most likely are insufficient.
		A lot of people are calling them scams, and rightfully so.
		And when we see this larger problem in the United Kingdom, people will suffer.
		There's a big potential for a blackout.
		People will lose their savings, their money, because they're trying to just afford the ability to heat their homes.
		And for Bill Gates, this is a good thing for the long run.
		This is his approach.
		Human suffering is good for the long run.
		If those are your tactics, what's going to be your endgame?
		And the endgame is going to be the same thing.
		And the carbon that he wants to reduce is, of course, you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Greta Thunberg.
		You know.
		How dare you!
		She comes out, she says, we gotta get off carbon and all that stuff.
		And I'm sitting here and I'm like, okay, I don't like the plastic in the oceans.
		I don't like the pollution.
		You mentioned we don't want our trout getting sick.
		I'm like, yeah, I want clean.
		I wanna go out to the wilderness on a hike and see no pollution.
		I don't like when people throw garbage on the ground and stuff like that.
		And then I see that she's not talking about China or India at all.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		and they're such massive polluters, some of the largest, way more than the US.
		They don't mention that the US actually reduces its carbon substantially,
		more so than these other countries. They cut down our energy, they drive up our costs,
		they make it harder for the American working class, and then overseas they ignore what
		everyone else is doing. They don't ignore it!
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		No, no, you don't understand it.
		Bill Gates advises the Chinese government.
		He's buddy's buddies with the Chinese government.
		So he promotes the Chinese government.
		He says on national television, the Chinese zero COVID approach is the right approach.
		They should, of course, create the social credit score.
		He loves what China's doing.
		Because at the end of the day, it's not about saving the environment.
		That's just a scam that they have on everyone else to conjure up a larger power grab, all a part of the Great Reset.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'll throw you one of the hardest hardball questions ever.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Do you like what China is doing?
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Heck no.
		I'm watching my language.
		This is a family-friendly show.
		Heck no.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Easy question.
		Yeah, I'm concerned not just about the lies and the manipulation.
		I'm concerned about, you know, China seems to be very much invested in us embracing ideologies that are ripping this country apart.
		So while they're massively expanding, while their population is much larger than ours, while they're, you know, sinking Vietnamese fishing vessels, they're polluting like crazy.
		Their cities are so full of smog.
		There's this one video of a screen.
		Have you seen this one?
		They have like this big TV with a sunny day on it.
		Because it's just brown skies.
		And look, I don't want to see that here, but I don't think any of us are talking about that.
		They're reckless.
		Reckless and unforgiving.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		They're buying garbage from Canada.
		Canada's like, we're recycling!
		They're buying it and literally just dumping it in the ocean.
		They're not recycling any of it.
		And it's a scam.
		All of it has been a larger scam against the American people, the people of the world.
		And again, Bill Gates' partnership with China tells you everything you need to know about it and what he's calling for.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		But it makes you feel good.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		I know, right?
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		That's a big PR scam.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's the big problem, man.
		If you are a moderate, liberal, or libertarian-minded person, and you read the news and say, hey, here's a thing, they call you far right in the media.
		The big point that I keep trying to drive home here is, they keep saying we gotta reduce carbon whilst actively trying to buy it overseas, while ignoring the carbon being produced by these other countries, because they're clearly lying.
		You point that out and they say it's a right-wing talking point.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, apparently China's building a coal plant almost every week now.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Isn't that a violation of these treaties we have with them or something?
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		It is, because we're supposed to sell them, I guess, a carbon tax or whatever.
		They're supposed to have a certain limit.
		But for Pennsylvania, we become energy independent and start being a net exporter.
		And I call it freedom gas.
		I mean, that's pretty clean when it burns, and it's going to lower costs in our state.
		So what?
		It'd be cheaper to live here, inflation would go down, you'd have better jobs, and people would want to live in Pennsylvania.
		It's funny, Bill Gates in his ivory tower, literally preaching it's a good thing, but he won't be affected.
		He'll still have his private jet and his private cars and his mansions, with his giant carbon footprint.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You could take away 90% of his wealth, and he's still a billionaire.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		He has a lot of beachfront property for someone who thinks the ocean levels are going to be rising very soon, which is suspicious.
		And he probably has a bunch of apocalypse bunkers.
		He's the biggest farmland owner in the United States.
		He was asked directly, hey, how come you don't institute a lot of your green policies on your farms?
		He's like, I don't know.
		We don't have to.
		And I'm like, he just got called out for his hypocrisy.
		And it's hypocrisy after hypocrisy.
		And Epstein's friend here is not a good person.
		And he doesn't have your best interest at heart.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, so let me ask you, when you're talking a lot about energy, natural gas, is that specifically what you're able to produce?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Are you talking everything?
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		I'm talking about the three levels, and Revy and I have been out to it, natural grass, natural gas, grass.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Grass is good too, I like that, good for the cows.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Freedom gas, it's easier for me to say, rig out in western PA, but so three levels.
		Natural gas is massive in a marshalless shell.
		We've viewed how they extract it.
		It is safe.
		The water tables aren't being polluted.
		They actually put a concrete filter in to block our aquifers from being contaminated from this proprietary formula they use to extract it.
		And then of course coal and oil. The oil is very high grade.
		I mean it's the kind of stuff that you use in important machinery. Any thoughts on this? I think
unidentified		they said they could if they had a plant in Pennsylvania they could actually turn that into
unidentified		gas for the cars as well. Yes.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Revy's right.
		And so I was talking with one of the energy producers and he's like, all we need is refinery in Pennsylvania and we can turn our natural gas to automobile gas.
		I'm like, you've got to be kidding me.
		Let's do that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Gasoline?
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Gasoline for our cars.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Natural gas into gasoline?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Methane into gasoline?
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		I didn't ask him for the details.
		I just said, let's do that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Have you heard about, I think Ian brought this up, was it you?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That they turn plastic into diesel?
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you can turn plastic.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		They found like in deoxygenated, high-pressure, high-temperature environments, you can melt plastic back into oil.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It needs to be refined into gasoline, but it's going to become a valuable commodity is recovering the plastic.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, what do you think about stuff like that?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Would you be interested, as governor, in exploring other ways to source energy and fuels?
unidentified		Oh, absolutely.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		I mean, we have this stuff sitting around, and the garbage keeps stinking up, I mean, and in the oceans.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Let's use it that way.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You can also upcycle coal into graphene, which is like, I don't know if you're familiar with graphene as a building- Here we go!
		Everyone drink 21st century building material. It's like steel more conductive than copper. It's like a capacity
		capacitor like a battery It's what do your carbon? What do you do?
		You like take two sheets of it and you twist it or something like you twist tronic graphene
		You can take multiple sheets of it and they're putting it layering it on top of each other one point. It's 1.13
		degrees Eventually, it's in super conductive carbon. It's this
		It's a powder here.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		It's pure carbon.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And you can hit coal with lasers and turn it into this stuff, and then it burns cleaner, and then you can turn it into building materials.
		Wiring.
		And what's gonna happen, by 2029 it'll be globally...
		This will become the new, it'll be adopted, essentially.
		Peak graphene 2029.
		So if we get on it now, and we start producing this stuff early, Ohio University's working on the upscaling of coal pretty heavily into graphene.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		I would love Pennsylvania to take the lead on something like that.
unidentified		That'd be fantastic.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Check this out.
		Ian brought this up.
		So Ian's thing is graphene.
		You know, he's graph-Ian.
		But graphene is, oh, he's writing it down.
		Ian, you got one.
		So, but here's something really interesting that Ian brought up.
		At the turn of the century in the 1800s, 1900s in New York, they said that there's going to be horse manure piling 10 feet high, the city will be unlivable, it'll smell.
		Then the car got invented.
		And there was no horse manure at all.
		It was gone.
		But there was a lot at the time.
		Ian brings up a good point that we're talking about global warming with carbon in the atmosphere, but they have carbon capture technology that can pull carbon and they can mine it from the air to produce a material like graphene.
		So when we're talking about all this climate change stuff, it really does feel like people are discounting human invention.
		That we might actually, as Ian points out, We have too little carbon in the atmosphere at that point, and we start complaining about it.
		It's getting too cold!
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		We'll be able to withdraw the carbon dioxide from the atmosphere.
		You can deposit it on the metals and then turn it into graphene, the carbon.
		You strip the carbon out of the carbon dioxide.
		You can also take methane out of the atmosphere, turn it into carbon dioxide, and then turn it into graphene.
		What's going to happen is we're going to create an industry where we're mining the air, and then we're going to start competing with trees for carbon dioxide.
		So we've got to be real careful about the way we set this global industry up.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Ian's saying burn more gas!
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Wow, Ian!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Gotta burn more!
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's not a bad idea.
		If you can capture the carbon right out of the smokestack, that I think is ideal, because you're not introducing.
		But at the same time, we've got to start cleaning up what's already out there, too.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		I love it.
		Especially since we're the second largest producer of hardwoods in North America.
		So we've got to balance that, that's for sure.
		That's amazing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What about sustainability?
		I mean, this can't last forever.
		Is there a timetable on how long you'll...
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		So I looked at a report, and obviously there's a lot of geological interpretation here, but they're saying we have about two or three centuries worth of energy underneath our feet in Pennsylvania.
unidentified		Wow!
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But what about two or three centuries later?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We got this story from the Philadelphia Inquirer.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		By then we have graphene and we have Mr. Fusion on the back of our cars, like in Back to the Future.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's talk about crime. We got this story from the Philadelphia Inquirer.
		Yes, Wawa's decision to close two stores is a dire statement about public safety in Philadelphia.
		Despite assertions to the contrary, the move by the locally-based convenience store chain speaks
		volumes about the state of crime in the city.
		I'll just give you my personal story on the state of crime in the city.
		We didn't live in Philly, we lived just across the bridge.
		We're in South Jersey, five minutes away from the bridge, when the riots happened in what they call the summer of love, the 529 insurrection.
		I thought we were fine. I'm like, well, we're not in Philly.
		We got the river.
		There's people are going to... No, I heard the helicopters.
		I heard the sirens. The riders crossed the bridge. All of a sudden now I'm sitting
		here thinking, I'm not going to sit around here and wait for this kind of
		this level of violence and this crime.
		So we decided to leave.
		We came down to the tri-state area here, West Virginia, Harpers Ferry.
		And since then, what we've seen out of Philadelphia has been horrifying.
		I mean, as soon as we got out, we saw the story of the guy holed up in his house shooting at cops.
		We're hearing just, I mean, you had the Wawa where everyone went in and started ransacking everything.
		Now Wawa is leaving.
		We see this in Portland too.
		They just shut down, I think it's the Pearl District Starbucks because of crime.
		Not that long.
		It was only a few months ago they announced 16 other stores nationwide will be shutting down because crime is skyrocketing.
		So what's going on, man?
		Why is crime through the roof?
		What can you do about it?
		What can we do about it?
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		It's funny.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Crime comes up a lot in the federal senate races, but there's nothing a federal senator can do at the state level for crime in a state.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		And so it's a bit disingenuous when they talk about, you know, they're going to bring law and order back.
		It's like, dude, constitutionally, how do you do that exactly?
		But a governor has a lot to say about it.
		The irony is, of course, my opponent is the Attorney General.
		He's been in that job for six years, and he's got one job enforcing law and order.
		And he's failed on his watch.
		John Adams said facts are stubborn things.
		So let me just give you some facts.
		I'm not a politician.
		I don't do sound bites like that.
		But the fact is crime has gone up nearly 40% on his watch.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Statewide?
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Statewide.
unidentified		Wow.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		We're the fourth highest in fentanyl deaths.
		Rebby and I were there in Kensington a couple weeks ago.
		I'll have Reb describe our experience there.
		Homicides, we're looking at on track for about 600 this year.
		It's about 430 as of today.
		A thousand carjackings, 4,400 robberies, a couple thousand shootings.
		The gravediggers in Philadelphia said they can't keep up burying the dead teenagers.
		And my opponent can't run on this record.
		And sadly, thank God we have alternate outlets like you guys, because traditional media covers for him.
		Because if that was a Republican, there'd be breathless reporting on how this person had failed the people of the state and turned his back.
		Instead of doing his job and trying to protect the people, we saw the mayhem in the Wawa in the Mayfair district.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's crazy.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		We saw the shooting after a football game in Roxborough, another safe area of Philly.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		We saw carjacking outside in Chester County, outside of Philly, of a mom and a daughter going to school and being, you know, carjacked at, you know, seven o'clock in the morning.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah, yeah, I saw that.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, it's heartbreaking.
		Real people are suffering, and so what can I do about it?
		And number one, we're going to become a law and order state because Shapiro is part of the Defunda Police Group.
		He's friends with BLM and Antifa, so They'll know that their governor has their back.
		And then secondly, we'll be working with the General Assembly to make sure they're fully funded.
		We'll expand the number of police we have on the ground.
		We need more.
		The people in Kensington and Philadelphia are asking for more presence.
		And then finally, I'll be surging special prosecutors in the Philly with the authorization of the House and Senate.
		These are our constitutional powers.
		Josh Shapiro was given that authorization and he refused to use it.
		And instead of Putting criminals in jail.
		He's worked with the Wolf administration to release about 10,000.
		I know Fetterman's getting hit on the head a lot about how he's released, you know, voted to release on the parole board, you know, all these murders and what have you.
		Josh Shapiro is also on that board.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, look, it's one thing.
		There was a tweet I saw.
		It was Tim Ryan saying he wants to reduce the prison population in Ohio.
		Immediately, there's this knee-jerk reaction from a lot of people on the right saying, like, wow, that's devastating and bad.
		But the first thing he says is he wants to get marijuana off the schedule.
		And there's a big difference between people who are in jail for non-violent drug offenses and people who are convicted of murder.
		The thing about Fetterman is that many of the people he's actually talked about getting out are people who are convicted of murder.
		Granted, he says, oh, it was a wrong conviction or it was, you know, wrong for this reason or that reason or there are protests.
		Okay, well, that is you talking about people who are convicted of murder.
		And I fully respect if someone's in, you know, prison and they're innocent and you can prove it, they should be released.
		It should never happen like that.
		But it's not the same as, you know, for Fetterman, if he wants to come out and say, nonviolent drug offenses should not be handled this way, then I'm like, okay, all right, right on.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Key distinction.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right, the problem is you look at New York and those other places and they're letting out violent offenders.
		There was a story about a guy who had committed like 40 robberies laughing, saying, you keep letting me out and I keep doing it.
		That's the problem.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, there's an important distinction to make here because personally I'm for criminal justice reform, especially when it comes to victimless crimes.
		But at the same time, what they're doing is absolutely absurd.
		It's absolutely crazy.
		It's almost as if they really deliberately want to make the situation as unbearable and as bad as possible on the streets.
		And you see a huge rise in crime, specifically where George Soros has invested into the attorney generals, into the district attorneys.
		And correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks like Shapiro got two donations for his campaigns twice from George Soros and has been supported by him.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		That is a fact.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		So we're in Kensington, and that's the only open-air drug market in America.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's a lot more in San Francisco, and New York City now, and L.A.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		The biggest one in America.
unidentified		It was heartbreaking, because honestly, for the people that are trying to live there and just be safe and raise a family, there is no safe place.
		You know, even in their homes, there's shootings and the bullets go in and the kids, one grandmother raising five kids by herself said they know the difference between a firecracker and a gunshot, you know, and they know what to do.
		They know to run upstairs and lay flat on the floor.
		And I think the youngest one's like five years old.
		The other thing is the school's just locked down because of some sort of crime and the parents aren't told why the school's locked down.
		So now your kids, you know, are locked in and not able to come home, but you don't know if it's an internal or an external, you don't know what the problem is.
		And so there's just a lot of fear that it's instilling into the parents because they don't know every day if their kids are going to come home.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		What happens when a school gets locked down?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Like how long is it locked down for?
unidentified		I think various times from what she was telling us.
		We talked of different people when we were down there, but her story was is it just keeps happening.
		It's something that's almost weekly and it varies.
		You know, it might just be, you know, for an hour because they heard there was something in the vicinity and so they were trying to keep the kids in before they let them out, you know, to head home.
		But, you know, sometimes it's internal and if that's the case, I don't know how long that might be.
		Might be for hours.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What I don't get is that when this kind of stuff happens, the only thing I hear from your modern liberal or leftist is, it's the guns that's the problem.
		And I'm like, well, it's crime.
		It's criminals.
		You know, Pennsylvania's pretty good on gun laws, I'm told.
		Is that true?
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, it's... I don't live there.
		Most of the state, obviously, is strongly advocating for Second Amendment.
		You know, one of the most restrictive cities in a nation is Philadelphia, and it hasn't done them very good.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But my understanding is it's still not nearly as restrictive as all of New Jersey.
		Because, you know, I'm living in the Jersey side, and they're... That's absolutely true.
		They're giving you warnings.
		But I bring this up because this means that, you know, I heard a story about people in Philadelphia and they're armed and everything's fine.
		They go to Jersey and all of a sudden they're getting arrested.
		And I'm like, wait, regular law-abiding citizens are armed in Philadelphia?
		Well, yeah.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		If you're pulled over, you got a pencil in your plate, don't answer any questions in Jersey if you have a weapon on you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But I mean... I plead the fifth.
		The issue clearly is not the guns or the gun owners.
		The issue is clearly criminals.
		And, you know, it's one of the reasons I didn't want to be in New Jersey, because of how insane the laws were.
		I was told that if someone... Look, I was five minutes from the bridge.
		We would drive five minutes and you could see Philadelphia.
		You could look out the window and you can see the buildings and everything.
		And I was told in Jersey that if someone broke into my house, I had a duty to retreat from my own home in Jersey.
		And I'm like... That's nuts.
		Where do you retreat to?
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm like, do I jump out the window and run barefoot my boxers down the street?
		Yes.
		Because they were like, is that better than killing someone?
		And I'm like, dude, if someone's threatening my life, I could be out in the winter and my bare... that's nuts.
		So I look at, you know, Philadelphia and I'm told the laws are better.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		So we do have the castle doctrine in Pennsylvania, of course.
		You can only open fire and engage a villain, a potential perpetrator, when they're in your house.
		That's when the law is completely in your hands.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		What about on the porch?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		On the porch?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Is that in the house?
unidentified		And you gotta make sure it's far enough in that if the gunshot throws them back, they're not out, right?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		So if their hand's on the door, the door's cracked open, that's not enough?
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		I don't think so.
unidentified		I don't remember that story specifically.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But if you're governor, how would you approach the Second Amendment?
		boyfriend do you see this one tried banging on the door and tried breaking
		the door open and the dad shot through the door oh yes that that that wasn't
unidentified		Pennsylvania I don't think it was I don't think so I don't remember that
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		story specifically but but if your governor how would you approach the
unidentified		Second Amendment what action would you take on it it was obviously will be
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		become a section a Second Amendment sanctuary state I'll be signing into law some of the bills I actually have in.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I like that.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		And so I'll be signing into law.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if I'll go as far as nukes, but clearly not.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I was telling him before the show how I'm like, hey man, the Second Amendment says arms and we have to amend it if we want to get specific.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Would you be okay for constitutional carry?
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		And actually, I'm a co-sponsor of that bill in the Senate.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Awesome.
		We're constitutional carry in West Virginia.
		It's fantastic.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		It needs to be that way.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		And I don't even get why we have a Second Amendment right and I have to pay $25 to get a license every couple of years.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		It's absurd.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		It's like, are you kidding me?
		Additionally, I have a bill, and I'm a prime sponsor of the Senate law, and I hope to sign the law when I'm governor.
		I will, actually.
		Where it will prohibit law enforcement within Pennsylvania from cooperating with the Federals if Joe Biden comes in to enforce unconstitutional laws on the Senate.
		I love it.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Nice, man.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so the nuclear weapons thing is, it's more of a cultural point, using something that's relatively shocking.
		First, yeah, private companies, private entities can have nukes.
		I mean, you've got major weapons manufacturers that fill out the forms, I forgot what it was called, we talked to a guy who had an FFL and he explained there's a form for nuclear weapons.
		And when the Second Amendment was written, you could have a frigate, you could have a man-at-war, you could have a private warship, and you could actually contract with the government, and that's what we have today with these private military contractors and weapons manufacturers.
		So I think if people are concerned about a private citizen getting access to biological and nuclear weapons, instead of just deciding one day that the Constitution doesn't matter, we should actually say, okay, well, let's amend the Constitution as we were supposed to do.
		It's more of a point that over a long enough period of time, people seem okay with the fact that the Constitution has been eroded.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		That's the whole point, I think.
		That's probably the most important thing that I've heard today, is that we're seeing infringements on our rights through a thousand little cuts here and there, and instead of doing the right thing and saying, okay, do you have a Second Amendment right or not, and approaching it from a constitutional amendment process, it's being circumvented by laws and by bureaucrats and bureaucracy and what have you.
		Additionally, another piece of legislation that will be signed into law, of course, is reciprocity, recognizing people's right from other states coming through.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's amazing.
		I'm glad to hear it.
		I love the constitutional carry stuff.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		It's too easy.
		It's very clear to me.
		I mean, so we know what the U.S.
		Constitution says, you know, should not be infringed.
		The Pennsylvania Constitution says that your right to keep and bear arms should not be questioned.
		Wow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Really?
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		That's beautiful.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Legal law abiding citizens shouldn't be treated like criminals.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		It's a simple, it's a simple idea.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So constitutional carry, but let's get a little into the nitty-gritty, I guess.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What about limitations on, you know, magazine size or, you know, if you're saying it's a sanctuary state, I mean, how does that apply to, say, the NFA, like selective fire rifles, fully automatic weapons?
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, honestly, I haven't gone that far, but I am troubled by the limitations because we've even seen Joe Biden talk about handguns, you know, and having more than six rounds, that would be a revolver.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		He doesn't even know what he's talking about half the time.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, seriously.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		That it's illegal, that you could be arrested in New Jersey because you have a 30-round magazine.
		Are you kidding me?
		I mean, really?
		I mean, most veterans have some of those left over from them 16 days.
		Yeah, true.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And not just that, there was a viral video where it was in Italy, I think.
		You're only allowed to have three rounds.
		And this individual, this woman, I think it was a woman, got attacked by a boar and then fired three times and the boar did not stop.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Oh, crap.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And so people are like, this is why.
		But you look at what happened.
		Someone tweeted, you know, what am I supposed to do when 30 to 50 feral hogs come into my, you know, my yard?
		And then all of the liberal anti-gun people are laughing as if it's not a real problem.
		And it is!
		They don't understand, you know, people get in helicopters and fly around having to cull the boar population because they're dangerous and they destroy the environment.
		But these people don't understand that.
		They live in New York where there is no boar problem and then vote for you to be hobbled when you do have a boar problem.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		You know it's it's nice when you're living in a you know in a little bubble somewhere you know and you know safe and cozy and you have good Wi-Fi and you know good transportation and you have a private jet and the rest of us so it's kind of you mentioned a boar and we lived in Germany for 10 years and so I was out with our son and a couple of his friends when they're little kids and It's an old quarry in Germany and all of a sudden this boar came jumping off the top of the quarry and bounded off the walls and came straight for us and all the kids were running and I'm like, what do you do?
		And so I stepped on a rock and stared at it and it lifted its snout, looked me in the eyes and then veered away.
		It worked.
		They said stare the animal down and he veered right in front of me.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Did it make your shoulders big or anything?
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		I'm just naturally big that way.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		How tall are you?
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		6'2".
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		But I was standing on a rock.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		I hopped on a rock so I increased my height and he did veer away.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Do you think there's value to having different gun laws in cities and in rural areas?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Or do you just kind of keep it...
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		I don't.
		I do believe that the Second Amendment should be consistent across whether you're, you know, city or rural.
		You know, lawlessness in Philly, I mean, if that mom had a sidearm with her and a carjacker came, she could've put him out of his misery instead of being terrorized and what have you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I honestly think there wouldn't be a carjacking.
		That's true.
		Because people would be like, I better not even try because this woman's probably on it.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		I remember in the 70s I had an aunt that lived in Florida and we'd go visit her down in Vero Beach and we were told don't beep at people back then because they might just shoot you, so...
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, an armed society is a polite society, and we have to understand it's basic principle.
		You respect other people, you don't freak out, you don't curse at people, you don't try to attack people, you don't try to steal their stuff or violate their rights.
		And as long as you do that, you'll be fine.
		But again, we also have to understand the criminals will always find guns.
		They will always have, you know, Things like machine guns.
		They will always have 30-round magazines.
		And if the general public is limited to, let's say, five rounds, right?
		A criminal knows that when he's robbing a store, oh, the clerk only has five rounds.
		So if I'm in a shootout with him, one shot, two shot, three shot, four shot, five shot, he has to reload.
		My turn to get him now.
		And it puts the average citizen at a disadvantage when criminals who don't follow the law anyway will violate it.
		And of course, will use it in order to justify the punishment against the average law-abiding human being.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm not even... I'm just tired of even hearing it and saying it because it is basic arithmetic.
		It is so rudimentary it is 1 plus 1 equals 2.
		If citizens can't have guns and criminals are already breaking the law, you're basically just saying the people who don't care about the law can carry weapons.
		It's just 1 plus 1 equals 2.
		And everybody listening to the show knows it.
		Everybody at this table knows it.
		And we keep saying it, but it doesn't resonate with these people who are trying to ban guns, that the people, only law-abiding people are going to pay attention to those laws.
		How do you solve this?
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		In the bottom line, do we have a Second Amendment right or not?
		And if we don't, then do a constitutional convention and not come here and slowly strip away these rights here and there.
		Because you're right, when you take the weapons away from the innocent, from the citizens, of course, then only the criminals will be armed.
		And we've seen that over and over again.
		You look at Chicago.
		I'm from Chicago.
		The wild, wild west, man.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And this is why I always tell my friends who aren't from the city, why you don't get involved in road rage incidents.
		Why, like, I'll be driving with a friend and someone will cut him off and I'll start wailing on the horn and flipping him off and I'll be like, you want to die?
		Because you never know if who you're flipping off is going to be some gangbanger who's, you know, looking for trouble.
		It's a city where the criminals, the people who are intent on committing crimes or who outright just don't care about the law, are the ones who are armed.
		You never know.
		So, it's funny.
		An armed society is a polite society.
		Well, in that respect, in Chicago, don't pick fights unless you know for sure, like, don't pick fights, you know, outright.
		And then, don't get into a fight even if it's, unless you know your circumstances.
		So, what I mean by that is, if someone is getting up in your face and they're threatening you, the fight you've always won is the fight you've avoided, is the saying.
		Chicago's a place where I've seen people get into fights that it's just like, you wanna talk smack about me?
		You know, put up your dukes.
		And the guy goes, okay, and pulls out a gun.
		And they're gonna be criminals.
		And the other issue is, if they have a gun, these people are more likely to hurt you with it, as opposed to your law-abiding citizen who does not want that fight.
		So, that's why I've, you know, especially growing up in Chicago, I've just been like, We'd be better off if the people were scared to come near me to commit a crime because I'd be armed.
		Because I'm telling you, all the criminals are armed as it is.
		They make videos of themselves waving the guns around and all we can do is cower and cross our fingers and hope they're not going to shoot us.
		That's how crazy it gets.
		For the most part, you don't gotta worry about getting shot in Chicago.
		A lot of people seem to think that because it's really bad, you're like walking down the street and bullets are flying everywhere.
		I'll tell you how bad it is.
		It's south side of Chicago, going to bed and hearing gunshots.
		It's getting a call from your friend and saying, I'm seeing some guy drag a body down the alley.
		Those things actually happened in my life.
		It's getting off of 290 on Independence and then someone driving past and just pointing a gun and shooting at my car for no reason.
		That's what Chicago's like.
		But those are a handful of incidents in the 20 plus years before I finally moved out.
		So, you know, some people have this idea that you go to Chicago and then every day you're going to be getting shot at.
		No, but should you ever, you're not going to be happy about it, right?
		So something's got to change.
		Let's jump to this next story.
		Let's get national with it.
		From TimCast.com, evidence implicating Hunter Biden in 459 crimes was just sent to every member of Congress.
		The report was produced following a 13-month investigation into material found on his laptop.
		The file was sent to all 535 members of Congress on October 20th, and includes 140 alleged business-related crimes, 191 sex-related offenses, and 128 drug-related crimes, according to The Sun.
		It was also sent to district attorneys and U.S.
		attorneys for the jurisdiction in which the alleged crimes occurred.
		Okay, here's my question.
		Is anything gonna happen?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Let's break down the crimes.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You want to go through all the crimes?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Come on, man.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Give me some of the hot ones.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		There's a lot of photos and videos that you could see.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		How about you watch them?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Maybe I'll do that in my room alone.
		I think he's been just living the criminal lifestyle.
		I think not all crime is evil.
		If there's an evil law, you have a duty to violate that horrific law, like in Nazi Germany, for instance.
		You know, I think he's just been dodging it, because his dad's the VP and now the president, and maybe he's got what's coming to him.
		Like, if he's been hurting people especially.
		If he's been hurting himself, I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think the reason Hunter has gotten away with so much is because, at the highest level, the DOJ is effectively politicized.
		So, you look at stories like this and you wonder why.
		Why is this guy not getting arrested?
		But let's break it down to actually a more personal level.
		Let's just say, fine, you don't want to talk about the Biden family.
		Let's talk about the pregnancy centers that were firebombed.
		You saw that story?
		Yes.
		Were any of those in Pennsylvania?
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		I don't believe so.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because I know one right over here, like not that far away.
		We actually had one of our reporters go drive out to it.
		These people, nothing.
		I'm not hearing anything.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		And that's a terrorist attack, as far as I'm concerned.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's terrorism.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		And nothing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But what do we hear about these pro-lifers?
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		So, you talked about Mark Halk and how, you know, one Saturday, three weeks ago, four weeks ago, about 30 agents showed up in 15 cars on an early morning.
		We call that a night raid in Afghanistan.
		We'd help plan these ops where we'd take down tough armed terrorists that have killed people and then sent in
		special operators, about 30 or so, usually, you know, earlier in the morning at 7. But we do
		that not proportionally towards a pro lifer because he got in a shouting match with an opponent
		of his position and apparently the guy was cussing over his kid and so Mark pushed him and the
		lower court threw the case out and now the feds are to come in with overwhelming force.
		That's obviously political.
		I never dreamt in my lifetime we'd see the Department of Justice and potentially the FBI being politicized so much because we have firebombing of crisis pregnancy centers but then nothing happens in defending their rights but of course it's heavy-handed abuse and we saw two priests arrested up in New York State now as well for being pro-life and praying outside a clinic.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Praying.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Praying.
		I mean, it should not be surprising.
		My opponent, Josh Shapiro, instead of fighting for our rights during the shutdown, he sued the Little Sisters of the Poor.
		I mean, he sued nuns.
		Who sues nuns over a religious issue?
unidentified		Twice.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Twice.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This seems like an overt violation of the First Amendment.
		Look, if they're gonna make an argument about, like, an assault or something, it's like, sure, but a federal case out of it?
		I mean, that's the meme.
		Don't make a federal case out of it.
		It was a local protest.
		We used to have, back in the day, I mean, maybe this is just a trope, and maybe there's reason to complain about it, but people get into bar fights.
		And the cops would be like, go home guys, you're wasting everybody's time with this.
		These days, you make a federal case out of it.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		And they are.
		And that's very chilling.
		What's interesting, Tim, is that the Democrats blacklisted 21 Republicans a year and a half ago, two years ago.
		And I was number one on their hit list for some reason.
		They thought I was going to derail their plans in Pennsylvania, which we will.
		And they colluded with the media.
		This came out in the Salon article.
		This is not conspiracy.
		It's a fact.
		They admitted it.
		The DNC and DLCC, Democrat Legislative Campaign Committee, they worked with the media to try to take me down.
		And it didn't work.
		It made me more popular, actually.
		but i think i'm most people though seeing you you ad hominem tax and people
		taking your character in your work in your your books your dissertation your
		your your service that mostly would prove drop it just to sit down and shut
		up and uh... that's the problem they have with me that's what
		the media so frustrated aggravated because i won't shut up because i
		think it would be nice thirty years i in the army moving around the world to
		twelve years out of the country ten twelve moves
		uh... i had a sweet job lined up Fifty-eight.
		Fifty-eight.
		right off in the sunset in a comfortable retirement and I could not do that because your generation
		was getting the country from me worse off than how I got it from my dad.
		And that's my motivation.
		And they're not, they're used to politicians being a bunch of cowards and I ain't going
		anywhere.
		We're going to win on November 8th and we're going to turn the corner on this.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		How old, can I ask you how old you are?
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		58.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		58.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Y'all were supposed to give us flying cars.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		We were.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Here comes George Jetson.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We got recession in 2008, now we got economic crises, but I can appreciate you standing up.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		I could not walk away from it, and I could have.
		I had the sweet job making a lot more than a senator makes, but it's not about the money.
		I fought for these freedoms.
		I defended these freedoms.
		I love my country.
		I love it so much that I was willing to lay down my life for it.
		No hero.
		But it was heartbreaking to me.
		I struggled with that.
		Reby can tell you.
		I was having trouble leaving the army.
		I got too old.
		I reached colonel.
		That's the highest I can get in my career field.
		There's no generals in the field that I work.
		And what I just said, I said to a young man at a radio station.
		He looked over at me, and I'm in uniform, about to retire, and he said, Well, Colonel, why don't you do something about it?
		And I was like, Ouch!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That hurt!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm hearing that your opponent's not going to debate you?
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		He refuses to see me on the stage.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Why?
unidentified		Why?
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		He's a freaking coward.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		He's got nothing to run on, so he's hiding.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, here you are sitting down with us.
		You have no idea what we're going to talk about, what stories we're going to pull up.
		It's been an hour.
		We've had Kerry Lake on.
		We've had a bunch of Republicans.
		I'll give a shout out to Jen Perlman, a Democrat in Florida who also came on.
		And, you know, it was great.
		We disagreed on a lot of things.
		And it's just so difficult to get Democrats and leftist activists.
		There's like two that we've had on the show more than once.
		Shout out to Vosh for everybody who doesn't like him.
		Hey, man, he's willing to come here and argue with us.
		But they won't even debate.
		They won't debate you.
		I think Katie Hobbs, the same thing, she's not debating either?
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Not debating in Arizona, not debating in Wisconsin, not debating in Maryland.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Right here, Dan Cox, he's a good friend, he's gonna be a great governor here, and his opponent's not debating him either.
unidentified		Wow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know what I think it is?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Honestly, the truth would hurt their campaigns.
unidentified		Yep.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Agree.
unidentified		Of course.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's it.
		They need to keep people in a tight space where there is a controlled narrative, and I'm gonna, you know, I'm sorry, beat the dead horse, but They will come out and claim we've got to reduce carbon emissions while Joe Biden's dumping the strategic petroleum reserve, which is keeping petroleum flowing, and then go and beg, you know, our rivals for oil.
		They clearly want the oil.
		They're just lying to you about it.
		I think you say something like that in debate and they go, hey, wait a minute.
		That's why they don't want to have a debate.
		First thing you bring up, among a bunch of other things.
		I mean, you can talk about the riots.
		They want to talk about January 6.
		You say, okay, well, 529, there were a bunch of riots.
		They firebombed a guard post at the White House.
		These are the things that the media doesn't want to talk about.
		And if the media is not advancing the narrative, then, well, I'll put it this way.
		They don't need to enter a situation where their constituents will hear anything outside of their controlled area.
unidentified		That's exactly it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		How do you break through to regular people then?
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Confront them.
		Meet them on the street and be like, that's what I did.
		But hey, I mean, what other way than go face to face, be like, hey, you want to debate me?
		Let's have a conversation right here, right now.
		Let the American people decide.
		I think we need more conversations.
		And the fact that we don't have conversations, we're losing our civility because of that.
		Because when you're able to look someone eye to eye, this is the reason why we do the show in person here.
		There's an energy.
		There's no bullcrap.
		There's no nonsense.
		You say something I disagree with, I'm going to call you out on it.
		But I still respect a human being if they come from a different perspective and experience.
		But when you're not able to face somebody, you're able to vilify them a lot easier.
		And I think we're reaching a point in this country where it's becoming very, very dangerous to how partisan everyone is.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		It is chilling.
		So how do I get the message out?
		And so Facebook, of course, clamped down on me back on October 17, 2020.
		I had the greatest reach on that platform for somebody in politics.
		I'm not a politician.
		But despite that, and so because of that, I can't boost posts.
		But despite that, I'm the number one in the nation over Democrat and everyone else on Reach and Facebook, because we told people how we circumvent it.
		You share.
		You share to your pages.
		Manually share.
		And so social media is one way.
		Revy and I have traveled the entire state, every single county, several times, meeting people eyeball to eyeball.
		We probably, the past couple years, we probably shook 100,000 hands.
		I don't even know.
unidentified		We've been doing it for two years because of all that's been going on with COVID and just people were hopeless in Pennsylvania and so we get invited to all these different counties and events and things and so we went.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You guys would have a great YouTube show, the two of you guys co-hosting it, talking about policy and stuff.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		I'd love it.
		You know, Red Bee's our secret weapon on the campaign here.
		I mean, it's fantastic.
unidentified		I'm the introvert that is sacrificing and using a microphone when I would rather not.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The guy down in Mexico does this.
		He does his daily speeches or whatever.
		What's his name?
		Obrador?
		I'm not super familiar.
		I don't know if he's still there, but I remember being told he comes down to the balcony every day and talks about what's going on and just lays it out.
		He's very blunt, very personal.
		This is the future of, you know, people want this.
		They want authenticity.
		They want real conversations.
		They don't want sound bites.
		They don't want talking points.
		They just want to be like, give it to me straight.
		I think one of the challenges is that the new, there's the left and the right, but it's like a new kind of left and right, right?
		I, you know, I grew up in Chicago, very liberal.
		Now they call me conservative and stuff, whatever.
		But I think the difference is, You can tell me painful truths.
		I'll hear it.
		And maybe I'll be like, well, it's a good point, man.
		I don't know how you solved that problem.
		We have conversations about pro-life, pro-choice.
		And, you know, Seamus, a good friend of ours, he's a Catholic conservative, very pro-life.
		We would have arguments.
		And then we'd laugh and tell jokes to each other.
		Because we can get along.
		We can live together.
		We're willing to hear things we don't like or don't agree with.
		We're willing to argue.
		The divide now is between people who just don't want to hear it at all.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		There's something about politics where a lot of it's like managing morale, I think, as a politician or as a leader or something.
		And like, if things are bad, and you come out and tell everyone, hey, things are bad, they might panic, and then that makes things worse.
		So you want to be like, no, everything's fine.
		But then that's can be a lie.
		And you're like, I don't want to lie to people.
		But so what do you do?
		You just keep like a like a positive mindset about the problems and like, This is the solution?
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up.
unidentified		Well, I was just gonna say, we try to point people to the fact that it doesn't have to be this way, and we try to encourage them, each one of you can do something, and if we all come together, and we all, we're all gonna, like you're just saying, you know, we're all gonna have different backgrounds, different opinions, But if we can all agree to come together on some issues, we can make a difference.
		And that was one of the big ways of encouraging people.
		And to watch out for each other, right?
		Like, to remember, you know, be your neighbor's keeper kind of thing.
		You know, if somebody's struggling, help them out.
		And a lot of people came together and met during the pandemic.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, tell them about the fireside.
unidentified		Yeah, at our rallies.
		We started a fireside, Doug started a fireside chat because people were so confused with our shutdown in Pennsylvania because it was so random how it was happening and businesses couldn't figure out like can I stay open or am I on the list that has to close and what's that look like and so anyway Doug got on every night for about a half hour and just kind of laid out the latest.
		Here's the list and he sometimes was just reading through all the the rules and Talking to people and people were asking questions.
		Hey, I have a hair salon So seriously, I can't be open, you know, but the abortion clinics are open, but I can't cut hair I mean, you know, it was it was like people just wanted to know like well what's going on?
		Why is that going on?
		And then Doug was able to get his staff working.
		His staff did not turn anyone down.
		They even got calls at 2 a.m They did not turn anyone away from the entire state.
		They didn't just take care of the 33rd district.
		They were taking calls.
		One of them was actually talking to a lady in Philadelphia during the time you were talking about with all the burning and everything.
		She lived above a store and she could hear them crashing and breaking everything.
		And nobody was answering.
		And she called his number, got some of his staff, and she said, the police won't come.
		What do I do?
		And so the staff stayed on the phone with her until it quieted down, because she was fearful for her life.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And they're lying about what happened with those riots.
		It's the craziest thing to me, and again, it's probably why they don't want to debate.
		Why we're seeing it across the board.
		Because you talk about the property damage, the billions of dollars.
		I've seen these...
		These talking points where they'll say, oh, it was only a few neighborhoods.
		Some viral tweet among a Democrat personality said, oh, the right wants to claim that the country was burning during major riots, but it was only a few neighborhoods.
		It was actually really small towns.
		It was widespread, rampant, and everywhere for whatever reason.
		You want to say it was because people were angry about George Floyd, or you want to say they were angry because they were locked up because of COVID?
		Regardless, Michael Tracy, journalist, he went to these small towns all over the country that people didn't know about.
		And he saw the same thing, boarded up windows, spray paint, please don't hurt us.
		We support you, please leave us alone.
		It's nightmarish.
		And there's never really been any kind of reconciliation or apology or admission.
		In fact, the Biden administration, Joe Biden's staffers were donating to bail these people out.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Kamala Harris was fundraising to bail these people out.
		She did.
		It's just this simple.
		Crime freaks me out.
		I don't want to have to worry about it.
		Look, for me, We were swatted here, I think.
		We got like 13 swattings.
		Are you familiar with swattings?
		So we have to deal with that.
		Doing a high-profile show, of course, we're going to have security concerns.
		So naturally, with crime going up, it matters a lot to me if I'm going to go to a place and it's already that we have security concerns.
		I don't want to think about that.
		But it's really simple.
		On some of the biggest issues, the economy, the cost of goods, and crime.
		You've got Democrats who have actually supported and bailed out rioters and criminals, advocated for letting out convicted murderers, and then on gas prices Joe Biden actually campaigned on getting us off fossil fuels.
		So I just tell people, look, There's a lot of things you can complain about culturally.
		There's a lot of cultural issues.
		You want to talk about pro-life versus pro-choice?
		I hear you.
		But right now, I know what's hurting you the most, and it's your gas prices are making it hard enough.
		You can't even get to work.
		If you can't get to work, how are you going to have a job?
		Then, because of the cost of gas going up, you can't now buy goods.
		I saw a report.
		I think it was CNBC.
		We've got 25 days left in the U.S.
		diesel supply.
		I think it's distillate supply.
		Now that doesn't mean we're going to run out.
		It just means it's the lowest it's been since 2008.
		These things don't have to be this way.
		That's right.
		I understand a lot of people may be concerned about, you know, other issues in the culture war, but you can't complain about crime and gas and then vote for Democrats.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		It's not just a culture war.
		I would say it's more of a psychological war.
		Former KGB defector Yuri Bezmenov, when talking about psychological warfare, subversion, and control of Western society, said specifically, quote, exposure to true information does not matter anymore.
		A person who is demoralized is unable to assess true information.
		The facts tell nothing to him, even if I shower him with authentic proof, document, and pictures.
		And I think that quote definitely rings true today with our modern society, especially with the mass amounts of kind of hypnosis, mind control that is really out there, what some people have described as fifth generation warfare.
		Now, how do we overcome that?
		I think it's a lot harder than just said.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Well, let's give people something to live for.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let me ask you about what's going on in these schools.
		So we saw this in Virginia.
		Ian's actually got one of these books.
		These are books that are rated... This one right here, Genderqueer.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Genderqueer.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if you guys have seen this.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		We had that in my testimony two days ago in the Senate in Harrisburg.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Eighteen and up on Amazon.
		But these books are in grade school libraries.
		And when parents simply say, hey, this material is not appropriate for my kid, they get kicked out of these meetings, they get told not to speak, they get the boot, and then we're told just that this is the kind of stuff that grade school kids should have access to.
		So, was there something that happened recently with you guys?
		Just tell me what your thoughts are.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		We had a hearing in Harrisburg and brought in several testifiers, several moms from the southeastern part of the state.
		One of the moms had a stack of about 10 different books and she read from one of them which was completely disgusting.
		It repugnant.
		It's that bad.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Do you remember which book specifically this one was?
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		I don't.
		She read it.
		It was so bad that the committee chair said, okay, we understand now.
		But the pictures in some of those books that she had there are extremely graphic, and it's for elementary ed kids, and if you and I shared that material with underage people, that would be an offense.
		We'd be arrested.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		That's disgusting.
		Josh Shapiro, my opponent, supports that being in the libraries.
		We actually had a bill that would protect kids from obscene material in the schools, age-appropriate books, and it was called book banning by the Democrats, and our Democrat governor, Wolf, vetoed it, and my opponent cheered.
		On the same side here, they celebrate, of course, gender pronoun games in our schools.
		Our schools are becoming, really, a culture war class in Pennsylvania.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because they know, if they can indoctrinate the kids, they get votes in, you know, 18 years.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		And the kids are told not to tell their parents if they're transitioning or which pronouns they're using, and the parents will get on board later on.
		Levine is part of this.
		The great Dr. Levine, our Secretary of Health in Pennsylvania now, Yeah, Matt Walsh is doing, I think he's doing a screening tour.
		admiral now, woman of the year, you can't make this stuff up.
		I mean these people talk about defending women's rights but they can't even define what a woman
		is now.
		I mean it's just insane.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Matt Walsh is doing, I think he's doing a screening tour.
		I know he's got like a big rally in Tennessee.
		But you've seen Matt Walsh's documentary, What is a Woman?
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, that's it right there.
		Look, I'm all for making sure people are living happy and healthy lives for the trans community, but what we're talking about now is, it's a simple issue.
		Parents saying, hey, me personally, I don't think it is right for my children to read a book that shows graphic sexual depictions.
		And they're being called book burners, fascists, transphobes.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Domestic terrorists, if you talk too loud in a school board meeting.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Something's really weird about that.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		There is.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know what I would just say?
		You can ask, well if you ever get the chance, because he's not going to debate you, you can just ask him, do you think banning Playboy would be book bannings?
		Is that banning a book to ban Hustler from schools?
		We're not talking about telling kids they can't read ideas.
		It's specifically that these are adult Adult-oriented things.
		You know, it's one thing if you're like... And actually, I brought this up with... I can't remember who I brought it up with.
		We have a lot of guests.
		The Bible has certain depictions in it that are actually adult and graphic.
		And my attitude is, yeah, the parents should be there talking with their kids and deciding if they want their kids to be reading certain things.
		I don't care where it is.
		I don't care if it's a religious text or if it's a book.
		The idea that teachers will decide for the parents and the parents have no say somehow equates to book bannings is ludicrous.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		And we see the videos on the libs of TikTok, you know, and they're using their platform to indoctrinate, and that's an abuse of power there.
		You're there to educate, not to indoctrinate.
		We want to teach kids, you know, how to think, not what to think, and that's a dangerous trend here.
		And now that there's a push to force the parents out of their kids' lives, in their education, in their choices, and what have you, in their understanding, in their worldview, that's troubling.
		You know, we started off this conversation about You know, Lieutenant Mastriana serving in the Iron Curtain, you know, defending against the godless system that Ronald Reagan described.
		And in those days, during the Soviet Empire, of course, schools were used to indoctrinate, to socialize and indoctrinate according to the edicts of the rulers.
		And I remember being, I'm so glad it's not like that in America.
		But we're seeing that coming here in America.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Are you familiar with ESG?
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		I am.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So that's, I view that as like the Chinese Communist Party, but for the Western version.
		They've got, the Chinese Communist Party has an office in all of their major companies so that they have political control with how these companies operate.
		ESG is basically the same thing, it's a workaround to get ideology into the business.
		You know what though, I think it's not working.
		I think we're seeing the backlash.
		There are many states, I think West Virginia, cut ties with businesses based on ESG.
		What was the story?
		You want to pull that one up?
		I think we talked about it recently.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		They said that they wouldn't do business with a specific company based on... Yeah, penalizes major companies for embracing ESG.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		West Virginia did that about four months ago.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Does the governor have the authority?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Would you be interested in selecting?
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I do.
		And we do need to elect a Republican General Assembly.
		That's just a constitutional factor.
		But me, together with the Republican General Assembly, we can cut off ties with businesses or not invest in China or Russia or companies that work against our ideas and ideals.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I wonder if the same goes for free speech, supporting the First Amendment, and social media companies that take control of the commons.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Since I've been on the receiving end, you know, much as you guys have been on some of the censorship here, which is just repugnant to me, you know, who's deciding what right and wrong is on some of these issues we've debated over the past couple years, which we won't bring up because we're going to be banned on some of the platforms, ironically.
		But I have introduced legislation that would make these social media platforms culpable and subject to being sued by citizens in Pennsylvania if that passes.
		Obviously, I'll sign it into law.
		They cannot screen speech that they just don't simply like.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		do I get my thoughts are that we need to force these companies to free their
		software code so that other developers can pick up like a copy of Twitter and
		launch their own Twitter that they then interoperate because if you start
		telling private companies what they have to do it feels like fascist like it's
		like I don't want the government but but if people don't like Twitter's terms of
		service because they're getting banned they go to the other Twitter and then
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		they can still view you you've swayed me halfway in Excellent.
		I don't agree with this idea of... So here's how I view it.
		You free the software code.
		Basically, you make the code for the program available to everybody to make their own.
		I don't like that.
		It's kind of like, if you build something, then someone's allowed to copy off your work, and that's like an IP and copyright thing.
		However, I still think freeing the code is something we probably have to do because of the algorithms.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because we don't know how Facebook is experimenting on us, and we know they do.
		This was a big story.
		Facebook actually was experimenting on people.
		They were purposefully sending happy content and hurtful content to people to see how they would react, and sure enough, when they flooded someone's feed with depressing content, they became depressed.
		That is psychotic.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Well, they were launching psychological experiments on unsuspecting users who didn't know that they were participating in a program that manipulated the algorithm to see how they could manipulate their emotions.
		So that's some larger psychological warfare that's happening that, of course, they're seeing what they could get away with.
		They're seeing how far they could manipulate a human being.
		If you can make someone feel sad, you can make someone believe a particular idea, that's godlike power and authority that I think should be absolutely put in check.
		And I kind of agree with Tim more than I do with Ian, because we need to understand what's happening behind the scenes.
		What is in the algorithm?
		Who's being promoted?
		Who's being demoted?
		Who's getting a fair share of viewership?
		Ideas are being shared, which ideas are being censored, and more importantly, make the code of conduct simple and enforceable.
		Don't make it vague, don't make it general, don't punish people, don't delete their livelihood, don't take them away from the market of ideas just because they expressed an idea, and you're gonna use an overall vague term in order to destroy their ability to communicate?
		That is draconian, that is evil, and a lot of these companies have ties to governments, ties to intelligence agencies, especially with their start, So how do you tackle that as a governor?
		That's a hard question.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		And there's not an easy solution to that.
		Ian, I mean, it's a tough one.
		We want to protect free speech, clearly.
		We want to have a free exchange of ideas.
		And we've been clamped down on so many areas.
		I'm not going to even mention all the topics.
		People know what they are.
		But at what point You know, when they start threatening violence and what have you, as we've seen before.
		You know, who determines where the line is?
		I mean, it was so much easier when we were growing up.
		I mean, free speech.
		If you said something to someone that they didn't like, you duke it out, you just punch each other, you know, then it's resolved on the spot.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		For instance, Ethan Klein just got banned off YouTube, a seven-day ban or something, for saying that he thought Ben Shapiro should be more gassed I think. Well if there was, he said if there is
		another kind of holocaust that he hopes that gets the first one. And it was
		a joke but it was a very poorly veiled joke and it was sort of like not a direct call to
		violence. It's not illegal because it's not um you know what do they call it when it's like you
		need a time and a place you know.
		You say, it should happen on this time, in this place.
		That's illegal.
		That's imminent.
		It wasn't an imminent threat, but these veiled threats are enough for social media companies a lot of times in their terms to be like, that's not allowed here.
		I don't agree.
		I think it's First Amendment protected speech.
		It is violent.
		It can incite violence though, so that's a problem.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, look, I want to just address this one just a little bit.
		We didn't get into it, but I don't think Ethan Klein should have been suspended.
		I even said it the other day when we went over the comments in the first place, but the fact that he's trying to claim it's a joke, it's like, dude, come on.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You should have said it was a joke after he said it, right in the same breath, man, if you're gonna do a joke like that.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		He said it first.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		He said it was a joke before he was even allowed to say it, before his team, like, immediately kind of shut him down, so.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, right, but my point is, like, when you hate someone and insult them and rag on them, no one's gonna accept it as a joke.
		It's just not... Like, if I came out and said something like that about AOC, I'm just kidding, man!
		Come on, dude.
		We're heavily critical of her.
		I called her a con artist and a grifter repeatedly today.
		I wish her nothing but happiness and a long life because I don't want pain, suffering, and violence.
		So I'm not gonna even joke about it, but who would accept it anyway?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		What was it?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		There used to be like FCC regulations that you couldn't go on ABC News and say something like that?
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And now the FCC doesn't... What's that?
unidentified		I think a lot of the restrictions on the media have been lifted, have been, like, rules have been changed that's allowing a lot more of this garbage.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		So we had a FCC would say like, yeah, it's legal, but it's not allowed on the network.
		But now there's no, it's not allowed on the network talking.
		It's up to these private companies instead of the FCC.
		It's definitely a legal, it's legal to do it, but whether or not it's righteous, I don't know, or justified or any of that.
		I err on the side of free speech personally.
		But you know, if you say, well, someone rid me of this priest, you know, that's, and then the priest gets killed.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't think you should... I don't think that should be banned.
		I don't think what Ethan Klein said should get him banned.
		I think we should all get to hear it and then be like, wow, that was gross, you know?
		But if he thinks it's a joke and he thinks it's funny, that's fine.
		I kind of think that...
		You know, look, people are allowed to tell jokes.
		I'm not going to get a comedian fired because he said jokes I don't like.
		I'm just going to be like, you know, watch something else.
		That's the thing.
		I don't think they understand.
		Right now, Ethan's, you know, attacking or being very critical of Ben Shapiro because Ben said, if another Holocaust happens, I hope Ethan and his family escape, but that's just me.
		And then he's like, you know, these fascists, they don't get it, blah, blah, blah.
		And I'm like, dude, When the people on the left say that we should ban comedians, censor people, and shut them down, that's extremism.
		That's authoritarianism.
		I don't think y'all should be banned, because it's simple.
		I'm an adult, and I'll be like, I'll watch something else.
		A comedian, he's not funny because he says mean things about me?
		It's like, okay, I'll just watch something else.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I co-founded Minds, the social network Minds, and it's basically First Amendment.
		It's whatever's legal in Connecticut is legal on the site.
		You have weird rules like spam, which don't exist in the Constitution, that you gotta kinda make...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But yeah, there's interesting things.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Doxxing, for instance.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's First Amendment protected, but I don't think it should be allowed.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I agree.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's a challenge, though, then, right?
		Because if you want to uphold the First Amendment, people are allowed to hold up your address on a placard.
		I mean, the white pages used to do it.
		Now we try to keep it a little bit more private.
		So what do you do?
		I just think there's one rule.
		I'm like, yeah, doxing.
		We can ban that.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Definitely on a slippery slope here.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		And it's happened so quickly to us since 2020.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		This is why I like the idea of freeing the code, because I want to leave the decision up to the network creators of if they want to ban doxing on their network or not.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		We just got to find where free the code doesn't mean like give out your IP and all the intellectual property you've actually done in writing that code.
		There has to be a line where it depends on what kind of business you are, I think.
		I think it depends on what kind of, you know, we've talked about this too with like whether Twitter is a platform or whether it's publishing this information.
		I don't know.
		It has to be discussed.
		It has to be worked out.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It should be a platform.
		It should be like a phone company.
		And the tweets should be on me.
		Have nothing to do with Twitter.
		That's why we need to... I hope when Elon buys this, I hope he just decentralizes the whole thing.
		And just says, like, I no longer have the ability to ban anybody.
		Bye.
		Have a nice day.
		That'd be fantastic.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		He'd definitely make Twitter great again.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think one of the challenges to be realistic is, you know, people can create fake accounts and then spam the platform with garbage.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And they can do illegal stuff, too.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's the cop's problem.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		But if you're a network owner and someone puts something illegal up and you don't immediately remove it, you're complicit in... Decentralizes it, like I said.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If Elon removes his ability by putting Twitter out as a decentralized system, And he just says, Twitter no longer has the ability to ban accounts.
		Like, it's hosted on other servers and people can host their own servers.
		He, like, federates it or something.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, then it's that person.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Then the police can go to you.
		I mean, look, dude, if you go out in the street and stand, if you go into a hotel and start screaming racist things, they're not going to come and shut down the hotel.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that'd be great.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like, oh, the hotel is hosting this offensive speech.
		Let's say you go in there and incite violence.
		It's not going to go in the hotel and be like, well, you know, it was in your space, so you're in trouble.
		No, they're going to arrest you.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So that's the way it should be.
		If you go on Twitter and you say this stuff, Twitter should be like, help, police.
		There's a guy on our platform inciting violence and committing crimes.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's how Mines does it right now.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There you go.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, man.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Simple as that.
unidentified		Good.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Good to hear that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right, how about this?
		Let's go to Super Chats.
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		Let's read some Super Chats.
		We got Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
		He says, Doug, I never realized how big of a deal PA is in the grand scheme of things with elections.
		Sir, when you win, please be level-headed for many of us just want someone who cares about the people.
unidentified		He will.
unidentified		I will keep an eye on him.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		I think that speaks to motive, which I already went over here.
		Could have run it off in the sunset.
		Comfortable retirement.
		Colonel, strategist, author, professor of the War College.
		All the credentials I needed to do easy things in life.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What do you think Shapiro's motivation is?
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Of power.
		He wants to be the first Jewish president of the United States.
		He said that.
unidentified		Oh wow.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		It's not me saying that.
		So that's not an anti-semitic remark.
		Let's see how stupid things have gotten.
		The mere fact that I point out that I'm a big advocate of school choice, obviously.
		$20,000 a year we're spending on per student in Pennsylvania and you can't pick.
		You're doomed to a zip code.
		In Philadelphia, why are you voting Democrat?
		You're stuck in that school and your kids are, you know, flailing.
		But the mere fact that I point out that He's forced school choice for himself and is able to afford a very expensive school, about $30,000 to $40,000 per kid for kids, and that becomes anti-Semitic.
		That's how ridiculous the media has become in America, and in Pennsylvania specifically.
		They've become ridiculous.
		Let's have a debate.
		Let's talk about school choice and why, for the Obamas, he could afford a very expensive school for his daughters in Washington, D.C., but what about the rest of the kids in Washington, D.C.?
		Why don't they have that same right to choose a school?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is the reason why he won't debate you.
		This is why many of these leftists won't come on a show like this.
		It's because we won't pull a gotcha.
		We'll simply ask, hey, how come these people are opposed to school choice, but they send their kids to these expensive charter schools and private schools?
		And they'll... no answer.
		Because the way I see it is, you've got a poor kid in Chicago in a crummy zip code.
		With school choice, they can go to the really nice areas and go to the nice school.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The only person who would have a problem with that is going to be a wealthy individual who thinks they're better off and should be.
		That's what we're seeing.
		The Democratic Party has become the party of the wealthy.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		And you know, Tulsi Gabbard's speech that she can no longer be part of this elite cabal of the Democratic Party exactly says that.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Did you have something there?
unidentified		No, I'm just going to say.
		And the thing is, it's not the average Democrat.
		It's sadly an elite class.
		And sadly, there are elite Republicans too.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		So the bluest of bluest areas in our state is Philadelphia.
		That's as blue as you can get Democrat-wise.
		But despite that, 88% of the parents agree with me on school choice and disagree with Josh Shapiro.
		They want school choice.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's read some more.
		We got Nunya Business.
		He says, Tim, do you read superchats starting from the beginning of the stream or starting from the point during the stream at which you start reading superchats?
		From the beginning.
		So once we go to superchats, I go back to the beginning of all the chats and then start going through them.
		DestinyTroll says, Bring back Seamus!
		Seamus for president 2024.
		Oh, and a little shamrock.
		Yeah, Seamus disappeared.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you don't have to bring him back.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		It's fine.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		He reappeared on Twitter last night to confirm that it was him that made that quote from Jezebel.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if you guys saw.
unidentified		They misquoted me.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Leftist media attributed a quote from Catholic conservative Seamus to Ian, who is... Just wants to legalize weed in Pennsylvania.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		How about you guys?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		How do you feel about legalizing pot?
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Not for recreational use.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's medically legal right now?
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		It is medically legal right now.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		And let me back up the argument, because obviously you're libertarian, I presume, yes?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I don't know, sometimes.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Depends on the situation.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Leftist authoritarian.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, right.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		And labels are always dangerous anyway, because we're all free thinkers.
		But I looked at what happened in Washington State, Oregon, New Mexico, and Colorado, and they were promised great revenues with taxation, but we've seen actually a 30% increase in crimes, gateways, all the stuff we were warned about actually came true in those four states I just mentioned.
		So I've been studying the topic there, so I'm not for recreational use.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We'll read some more.
		I think, actually, that was a super chat.
		Someone asked that.
		Azalea Primrose says, Russian doesn't need to fire nukes at us.
		They will label them fentanyl and walk them across the border.
		Bet some are already here.
		Scary stuff.
		I mean, that's an interesting point, too.
		People are very scared of conventional warfare when the reality is our porous border and our weak military.
		It very well may be that Russia, we had one guy on say Russia will release a bioweapon.
		Or how about China just sends opiates over the border?
		That's what they've been doing, right?
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Oh, they already do, man.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		They're putting so much over the border in California.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		We're the fourth highest in fentanyl deaths in a nation.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		12 to 15 Pennsylvanians are dying a day.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		I believe it.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		And Josh Shapiro's doing nothing about it.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		And most of it's coming from China.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Alright, The Hazmat 221 says, Tim, long time listener, I took your advice to heart and I got a 74 acre parcel in PA after fleeing New Jersey to live off grid with my newly wed wife.
		We don't want PA to become the next New Jersey and support Doug wholeheartedly.
		PA needs him.
		That's awesome.
		74 acres.
		Wow.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Welcome.
		You know, that's a beautiful thing.
		I'm so pleased to read that.
		You know, you left New Jersey because of failed Democrat policies and you're coming to a state that needs to be Republican and free and not bring in those failed politics with you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Do you guys have animals?
		Chickens?
		Goats?
unidentified		We do.
		We're cat people.
		We like dogs, too.
		But yeah, we're not allowed to have other animals.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So you don't have chickens?
unidentified		No.
unidentified		We're actually not allowed in the... We're next to a state forest, and so they limit, sadly, in our housing.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		But our neighbors are turkeys and deer.
unidentified		Yeah, we do.
		And bear.
		We have bear on our front porch sometimes.
		Wow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That sounds actually kind of scary.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But you're armed, right?
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then it's all right.
		We had a bear come on our front porch last winter.
		I think it was desperate.
		And it tried ripping... So we have Chicken City.
		I don't know if you saw.
		It's the big chicken coop.
		We had a smaller one.
		And we came out one day and the metal had been pulled, but it didn't get in because we did triple layer.
		But we had on camera a bear was trying to break in and get the chickens.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Did you guys see that video of the hiker that the bear attacked and like dove at the guy and he threw it like over his shoulder?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I mean, have you seen this video?
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I just saw it today.
		That was insane.
		And the bear kept coming back.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Stop!
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		It's like a horror movie.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right, let's read this one from a name I can't read.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He says, Tim, I was going to become a $1,000 a month member for the next 84 years, but then I read Jezebel about Ian being a conservative, so I decided not to.
unidentified		Oh, well, that's 84,000.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What is that, $1,000?
unidentified		So what's 12,000 times 84?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's a lot of money.
		That's a lot of thousands.
		That's about 950,000.
		Is that 10 million?
		Yeah, I think it's closer to 1 million.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		12,000 times 84 that's a lot of money. Yeah, it's a lot of thousands. That's about nine hundred ten million thousand
unidentified		Yeah, I think it's closer to 1 million 1 million Clayton Johnston says IRS already making claims about owing for previous years.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Maybe I'm doing the math wrong.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		12,000 times 84, is that a million?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		No, that's like 100.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That's like 1 million.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		$1 million.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh man, we lost a million bucks.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, there it is.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		All right.
		Clayton Johnston says IRS already making claims about owing for previous years.
		I just got my letter a couple days ago saying I owe them more more for 2020 voting red in
		PA.
		See, this is what people don't understand when the Biden administration, the Democrats
		are bringing on these these IRS agents.
		We get a conservative talking point.
		They're going to start auditing poor people.
		And I said, no, they aren't.
		That's ridiculous.
		They're not going to audit you.
		They're just going to come and bill you.
		They don't need you to justify why you owe them money.
		They're just going to say, you owe us the money.
		I hope regular people recognize that.
		Because this is what Clayton's saying.
		I see this personally.
		My family sees it.
		You will one day get a letter in the mail and it'll say you owe us 75 bucks.
		And you'll go, for what?
		And it's not going to tell you.
		You just got to pay it up.
		Congratulations.
		They're coming for you.
		They're taxing you, man.
		It's going to happen.
		All right.
		Let's see what we got here.
		Mike, okay, Mr. Hunt, first name Mike, nice try, says, how are we just watching the U.S.
		enter an era of World War III holodomor scenario and not seriously considering seceding from blue states?
		Why can't you and other media entities actively as a group start a movement for statewide peaceful secession?
		Well, we know, I know Luke's talked about peaceful divorce.
		I know Michael Malice has.
		But I think we're trying as desperately as possible to not have that happen.
		And we're hoping that with like a midterm and then 2024 election, we can actually just win a culture war and stop the country from falling apart.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		interject something. So during the shutdown a lot of people would get very
		aggravated and actually say some you know pretty potentially violent things
		about how frustrated they were with the government and then I would ask them the
		question like well did you vote in the last election? No.
		Did you vote in the presidential? No. I'm like then you're part of the problem.
		So secession is I'm going to say it's a ridiculous idea.
		We resolved this at the ballot box, and let's do it this way.
		Go out and vote, and be active.
		And if you're really that serious about it, and it sounds like he's pretty passionate about it, then volunteer for a campaign, donate to a campaign, or maybe run for office yourself instead of talking so bombastically.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Well, personally, I think secession is a great idea when you see it from a point of view of decentralization, from the point of view of how the Amish have done it, from the point of view of individuals taking personal responsibility for themselves.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		We might be at odds here, but that's how I see it, and I think it's a great idea that we should strive for on an independent, local level.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You mentioned a convention of states, too.
		How does that work?
		Is that between governors or between state legislations?
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		That would be through state legislators selecting representatives to represent a state in a convention of states.
		And obviously, it's coming out of the conservative movement, but there's also fears on the Second Amendment side that that could be a runaway convention that could start infringing upon our rights, and that might be another way to circumvent the constitutional process.
		You know, individually, the Amish still pay their taxes, they still obey our laws and what have you.
unidentified		Even though they have their own schools, they still have to pay school tax to, you know, that seems ridiculous.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		But a fracturing at the greater level, like I'm thinking 1861, I don't want, maybe, you know, without the conflict, but I don't want to see that happen to our country.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		We're better off as a United States of America.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we just gotta win.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		People need to get out and vote.
		It's still to this day, Doug, elections in Pennsylvania are compromised.
		I don't know if we're going to go.
		Are you kidding me?
		That's exactly what Democrats want you to do.
		They want you to stay home.
		There's so many Republicans that don't vote.
		The Inquirer actually wrote an article.
		They're concerned.
		They're seeing this red wave of Rebbi and I traveling across the state and getting into massive crowds in rural counties.
		And they're like, wow, if those Republicans actually go out and vote, Massachusetts is going to win.
		So, yes, get out and vote.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And go knock on your neighbor's doors.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Call your friends.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Call your family and say, we got to do this.
unidentified		And take the Amish to the polls.
		That's right.
		Drive them to the polls.
		We have a lot, a lot of support in the Amish community.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		We do.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right, we got Morgan Mogus.
		He says, hey Tim, big fan of the show.
		If Josh Shapiro keeps avoiding Doug's debate calls, he should debate Mises Caucus Libertarian candidate Matt Hackenberg instead.
		It would really make Josh look cowardly.
		There's a lot of people, here's my first thoughts on this question.
		Obviously a lot of people who are Libertarians, we have a lot of Mises Caucus and Libertarian friends, they want to be contenders in this.
		They want to make sure people recognize them.
		And so I see a lot of people being like, you know, you should debate the Libertarian.
		But they actually make an interesting point here that I thought.
		It really would make Josh Shapiro look cowardly if you excluded him and the conversation shifted away from Democrats into something totally different, you know what I mean?
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's interesting.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Or just simply put it, like, you're hosting a debate for the governorship, and everyone's invited who's running for governor!
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		And would you debate a libertarian candidate?
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'd debate anyone.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		I mean, we have a green candidate out there, I don't know why we're not talking about her as well.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Who's that?
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		I don't have her name handy, but she made it on the ballot, and she's a viable alternative to Josh Shapiro, that's for sure, if you want to vote red.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we were talking with some of the, you know, I think it was when Dave Smith was here, he's a Mises Caucus guy, and we're good friends, we're big fans, but I gotta say, look man, I don't view the new MAGA Republican America First types as the lesser of two evils the way I viewed the establishment Republican Party.
		I certainly don't agree with everything the Republican Party has to offer, But there's a handful of Republicans where I'm like, yeah, they're actually pretty good.
		School choice is a good thing.
		Like, I agree with these things.
		They don't want war.
		I'm like, you won me over with that.
		You want school choice.
		I actually see an opportunity now within the Republican Party with many candidates to actually get some good people in.
		I think the Republicans got to do a lot to get rid of that old guard garbage, you know, establishment stuff.
		But, you know, to our libertarian friends, the risk that everyone sees is Are you going to split the vote?
		Is it going to end up hurting everybody if we try and go for the cream of the crop utopian vision?
		Or do we say, hey look, we got some pretty good guys right here.
		I don't know man, I don't have any answers.
		That's tough.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		And that's hurt us before.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		The reason why, and whatever we think of Bush the elder is irrelevant to my point, but Perot came in and he ensured a Clinton victory, which began a transition in our country culturally.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I do think it would be hilarious, and I understand the political challenge, but it would be hilarious if you guys just organized the governorship debate and put his podium up there and just... there you go.
unidentified		We could have a cutout of him.
unidentified		We could even make him, you know, a little bigger than life, if that helps.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean look, you invite the Green Party candidate too, let them represent the left, and then be like, why is he refusing to show up and actually speak to you?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I don't think you'd mention him at that point, just call up the 2022 Pennsylvania Governor of the Bay, whoever comes.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Invite everyone who's running officially on the ballot.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		I promise Josh Shapiro he could bring Donna Brazile with him, who of course cheated famously in 2016, gave Hillary all the questions before the debate.
		I'll even give him a box to stand on so he looks taller.
		It's okay Josh, I'll see you on the debate floor man.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Do you guys know each other personally?
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Not at all.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		We saw him one time and he skirted away from us up in Erie.
unidentified		Oh wow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Alright, let's see what we can grab here.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Teddy here says, 3rd ID, 123rd Signal Battalion, Echo Company, 98-99, Godspeed, Mastriano, voice of the Marn.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Marnie?
		Did we overlap?
		Yeah, we overlapped.
		I was in 3rd Infantry Division, Division Artillery from 1997?
		No, 98.
		1997 no 98 98 to 2000. Yeah, is that some kind of MK ultra activation code?
unidentified		98 to 2000.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		That's what I'm getting from it.
		I'm like, I'm a civilian.
		I don't know what you guys are saying there, but I'm concerned.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		We're rocking the Marne because in 1918 when the Germans broke through the French lines, my unit stood like a rock on the Marne River and stopped them.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right, Isaac Glover Show says, can Mr. Mastriano please consider joining the new Trump administration in 2024 if he loses his governor's race?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Also can't wait to see Carrie Lake win.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		We're going to win bigly at the borough from Donald Trump.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		But thank you for thinking so much in me.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and also Carrie Lake, man.
		I've seen more and more of her videos.
		I really think she could be president.
		She's fantastic.
		Look, I have tremendous respect for anybody who can come here and sit and have a conversation with us.
		You know, because some people, a lot of politicians, they can't even debate.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's like, do you really have ideas?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If you don't know anything about those ideas, you can't back them up.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's true.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know, man.
		Look, I can disagree with you or anybody else, but as long as you know why you think something, I'll be like, OK, well, you know, you know, you mentioned some things on the show about your policies, and I'm like, I actually don't know enough to refute what you're saying.
		I'm not going to argue about something I don't know just for the sake of politics.
		So at least, you know, there you go.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Well, thank you for being a decent journalist in that regard there.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you know, we all deal with how they lie all day and night.
		I mean, like we were mentioning, they called Ian Crosland a conservative commentator.
		They call me a conservative and, like, none of it is just, it's just meaningless.
		They call all of us conservatives.
		It's like, that's just nonsense.
		I mean, anybody who's ever heard anything out of Ian's mouth would laugh at the idea of him being called a conservative.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		So, Ian, what happened?
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		What caused that?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I think I've been tilting conservative since I've been here.
		No, they thought I was Seamus Coghlan.
		They quoted a different guy and thought that I was the one that said it.
		On the show!
		I don't know.
		It's like they got an AI transcript of it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They don't do the work.
		They don't do the work.
		It's a Google search.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I think of myself as liberally conservative or conservatively liberal.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Now, if they're getting your name wrong, imagine what else they're getting wrong in all the articles that they put out there.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Ashley B. Yo says, first super chat, super pumped to see Mastriano.
		No notification tonight on here.
		I live right outside of Scranton.
		Big props for coming on and God bless.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Nice.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is what, you know, these are the kind of shows that we need more of.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Not the sound bites you put on the primetime show for five minutes.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Long form.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		It's really hard to lay out a solid policy position in five minutes or less.
unidentified		It's impossible.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		I start talking fast because I'm going to squeeze it in.
		It's like, it doesn't even flow.
		And I appreciate you guys.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The music slowly gets louder and louder.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for coming on.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Click!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Nick Colanello says, my fiance and I are hoping to have kids in the future.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What goals do you have for Pennsylvania's Department of Education in four or five years?
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Wow, it's gonna be rapid changes because it's our Department of Education that's become very radicalized.
		We've covered some of the books, you have the books there, and it's disgusting.
		So we're, on day one, CRT's over.
		On day one, no more gender pronoun games.
		This is all 17 January.
		On day one, we'll be reaffirming parental rights.
		Did I even have to say that?
		I kind of choke on it in America.
		Really?
		No kidding.
		And then I'll back all these up with legislation out of the House and Senate.
		I'm not going to roll by edict, but I'm going to change the culture on day one.
		I have a Secretary of Education.
		They'll be focused on education and not indoctrination.
		That means we need to have all the curriculum posted online for parental review and transparency.
		The school districts will be ordered to post that.
		That was a bill, by the way, vetoed by Governor Wolf a couple months ago.
		Transparency and curriculum.
		You know, I think the more eyes that are on things, the better off we are, the more accountability for public.
		We're spending $31 billion a year in Pennsylvania on education.
		According to a 2020 report from the National Education Association, we are the 12th highest in the nation spending-wise with 28th in quality student before COVID.
		We're not getting our bang for the buck.
		And so my goal is actually to do education rather than indoctrination.
		And history, civics, and constitution need to be brought back.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right on.
unidentified		And that's from a doctor in history, by the way.
		Oh, that's fantastic.
		He's taught at the master's degree level, so he cares about education.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		But I believe in our history and our laws, people need to read the Constitution and study it.
		Agreed.
		I see, and you know, granted, you know, I came in with a framework and understanding of the Constitution, but being in the Pennsylvania Senate during the shutdown during COVID was a crash course in the Constitution.
		I had no idea things were happening so rapidly.
		And much of it was because of ignorance of the laws and the rules and our basic constitutional rights that people seem to not have a grasp of anymore.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yes, right.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It'd be cool if little kids in elementary school learned how to write a bill and pass it with the other kids could vote on it and then change some behavior in the classroom.
		Or finance!
		Yeah, write a check.
unidentified		Or we don't write checks too much anyway.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Kids not knowing how the financial system or the business or the economy works.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah, compound interest.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Or taxes at all.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		And that would be so easy to do, to have a mock-up of the House and Senate and the Governor.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's so fun!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, the good schools have this.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You can change roles every few months or every month.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The really expensive private schools have things like this.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Class president, stuff like that.
		The public schools, they just leave you high and dry.
		All right, Hexagon Proton says, one of my co-workers used to work in mining and had activists lock themselves to machinery overnight.
		One day they left them there through the day.
		Sitting in the sun for nine hours, they didn't return.
		Did you guys see these?
		So first there was the two women who threw the tomato soup on the van Gogh.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		That's disgusting, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Then they glued their hands to the wall.
		Immediately got arrested.
		I was outraged.
		They should have left them there.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You glue yourself to the wall, you become the exhibit.
		Then, when you gotta go to the bathroom, you can beg for help and we'll say no.
		Now there's a bunch of scientists, I think it's in Germany, they glued themselves to the floor of this Porsche showroom.
		And then they got really mad that VW wouldn't give them bedpans.
		Because they were like, how are we supposed to respectfully defecate now that we've glued ourselves to the floor?
		And my attitude was like, I don't know.
		Failure to plan is planning for failure, bro.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Personal problem.
unidentified		Should've brought one with them.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I love peaceful protest.
		It's fantastic.
		America has done great things with peaceful protest.
		And if you want to peacefully protest, I respect it, but you pay the consequences.
		You block a street, you get arrested.
		But you did something that wasn't hurting people in a great degree.
		I understand there can be problems, like, you know, if a car can't get through and someone loses their job, or there's a lot of problems there.
		But that's why you get arrested for it.
		You should block the road.
		The cops should come and arrest you.
		You get the press.
		Everybody understands.
		We need some wiggle room with civil disobedience.
		That also means, though, if you lock yourself to a door, you better be prepared to crap on the floor.
		If you're not thinking about this stuff, I don't want to tell you.
		All right.
		Dylan Lally says, using my first Timcast Super Chat to say one thing to my future governor.
		Constitutional carry.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I love it.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		It's gonna happen.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		More constitutional carry everywhere.
		It's amazing looking at the map of the United States and the expansion of constitutional carry.
		Second Amendment is winning.
		For a long time, they did not respect it.
		A lot of people, Bro Cody said, also ask about constitutional carry.
		I think we understand you are very much for it.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		That's what I was curious about.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Gen Z says, Doug has my vote, but will he repeal gun laws like permitted carry and fight the feds when they overstep?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Already answered it.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		I actually have a bill in the Senate to do just that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		I'm going to read this one.
		It's a bit more extreme, though.
		Lima X-Ray says, Will you declare the ATF a terrorist organization like your libertarian opponent, Matt Hackenberg?
		I don't know if that... I mean, I don't know how you answer that.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		I like that idea.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think my simple answer is I would be for abolishing it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think the duties they do can easily be handled by any law enforcement already.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		We don't need... Or create an ATF-free zone.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Or make it into a convenience store, even better.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Can a governor declare groups as a terrorist group?
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Especially a federal law enforcement agency.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I like how you're like, am I supposed to actually answer?
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		I'm still waiting.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, I'm sure the Libertarian actually is saying that, but it's like, come on.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		You know, and that's the thing that drives me crazy about politics.
		People say anything to get a vote.
		That's why, you know, the Senate race is interesting and it's a lot about, you know, law and order and crime, as I mentioned before, but there's nothing that they can do about law and order and crime at the state level.
		That's a state issue anyway.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Alright, Pinochet's Helicopter Tour says... I didn't say that!
		So Tim, you're telling me the guy who smoked shredded parmesan floor cheese has committed
		459 crimes and the big guy Joe was not involved in one?
		I didn't say that!
		I believe he's probably involved in a bunch of them!
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You know, uh...
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		He did try to smoke parmesan cheese, I do remember that!
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		That's a fact!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, but that's sad, man.
		Yeah, definitely.
		I feel bad for Hunter.
		I think he's a bad guy, I think he's done bad things, but hearing a story like that, it's just like... Rock bottom, Parmesan cheese bottom.
		Yeah, yeah, he was a crack addict.
		I don't know what he's still doing.
		And so, in his desperation, he grabbed Parmesan cheese and put it in his pipe, I guess.
		I mean, look.
		I don't want to rag on the difficulties faced by an individual, but come on.
		The Biden family has serious issues, and there's reasons why a person ends up that way.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, I know it's not always true of every parent.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Some parents try really hard, and somehow their kids fall into bad stuff.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		For sure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But, you know, the fact that Hunter Biden was working on stuff related to Joe's work and stuff like that, come on.
		You gotta be more responsible there.
		All right, all right.
		Let's grab some Super Chats.
		Let's try and find a good one.
		What do we got?
		Hopsitup says, Tim and crew, what's your take on businesses being sued for not rendering services to LGBT plus?
		What if the business would just charge a crazy amount of money for cake, photos, etc?
		Wouldn't lawsuit not be valid?
		That's interesting.
		This is a tough question.
		I mean, how do you solve for this?
		You're aware what's going on with the Colorado Baker?
		Yes.
		He said he had no problem giving a cake, selling a cake, to a gay wedding.
		It's that he didn't want to make a custom message about supporting it.
		Well, now he's been sued several times.
		I'm curious, you know, how do you solve for this?
		Look, the law says you can't discriminate on the basis of, you know, these, these, well, I should say national origin, gender, gender identity.
		What are your thoughts on this?
		How do you, how do you, yeah, I don't know.
unidentified		I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		How do you solve for that?
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		That's just a tough one.
		I mean, we've got so many gray areas in our country now.
		I don't believe that if you have an objection to something, why can't you just say, I'm sorry?
		And I know in the case of the florist, she recommended another florist for a wedding, and that wasn't good enough.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's not good enough, they want you to do it.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		This is a dangerous trend here, if you have an objection to something, what happens to your own rights?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I wonder if scale is the answer.
		If it's a small business where it's like one person, you shouldn't be able to bring an action.
		But if it's like a chain or a dominant business and you can prove that they've monopolized a certain area or something like that, then you can.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		That might be viable.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Like if it's a public corporation?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, no, I mean like, if you're a single individual who has a storefront selling flowers and you say, I'm not gonna do business with you, it should be like, carry on and move on so you can find flowers anywhere.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But if it's Walmart, they shouldn't be able to turn you away because they've dominated and monopolized such a large portion that you can't really go anywhere else.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Can I give a shout out?
		Josh French served with me in Afghanistan.
		Josh, I love you, brother.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, he says, those that Colonel Mastrano respect him.
		Those that don't know him should.
		Oh, those that know him respect him.
		Those who don't should.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		I love you, man.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		He was a great member of our team in Afghanistan.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right on.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Let's see.
		Let's try and find a good one because we only got a little bit of time left.
		You know, I'll say this just as I'm kind of trying to read and speak at the same time.
		I do try to find good questions, especially hard ones, but when a good portion of all of the superchats are just outright, love you, big fan, you know, go Mastriano and things like that, it's like, you know, I can't just sit here for 10 minutes trying to find everything.
		But let's see if we can, I'll just try and make sure I can find one more, just a good one that we can end off with.
		Otherwise, I'll just grab what I see coming up soon.
		All right.
		All right, I'm just going to have to, they're all just big fans of yours.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they all look like that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Everybody's just being like, Doug, you rock.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Can't wait to vote for you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm like, where's the person who's got a question about policy?
		All right.
		Zero says, Mass General kept me sane during the abuse of power from the Democrats during COVID.
		Watching his fireside chats gave me hope.
		Can't wait to vote for you.
unidentified		There it is.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the one thing I, you know, I know that there was a lot of Q&A sessions with politicians in the past, and they always do pre-screened questions.
		We don't do that.
		But at the same time, hey guys, you know, I always try to find good ones, but everybody's just saying they love you, so I guess that's what you get.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Love you guys back.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So, my friends, if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button?
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		Senator Mastriano, do you want to shout anything out?
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know what?
		Pennsylvania is the birthplace of our country.
		It was founded by William Penn, who, of course, escaped persecution for his own faith.
		He founded our state with the idea that all men could be free people and live their lives as they saw fit, not as a governor or magistrate or king saw fit.
		And that shaped our government.
		I think we have to remember who we are.
		We are the birthplace of freedom and liberty.
		We're the same state, of course, where New Birth of Freedom was secured at Gettysburg.
		And then finally 2001 on 9-11 and that dark day.
		The only hope was flight 93 and although it had a tragic ending, remember what Todd Beamer said, let's roll.
		So Pennsylvania and America, let's roll on 8 November.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You got a website?
unidentified		Go to DougforGov.com All right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Rebby, you wanted anything to add?
unidentified		Just like to say, you know, we are the Keystone State.
		So the governor's race is important to all of the USA, because of holding together that that arch, that Keystone holds together the rest.
		And I really think that the way that Pennsylvania goes is going to be the way the nation goes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right on.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		If you guys get elected, I want some PPA cards.
		Thank you guys for coming on.
		I didn't always agree with everything, but at least we had the conversation.
		Thank you so much for that.
		My YouTube channel and news organization is WeAreChange.org.
		I did a very in-depth look into the false flag allegations by the United States, a deep dive into some very serious issues.
		If you want to see that video, you can right now on YouTube.com forward slash WeAreChange.
		Thank you so much for having me.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Good talking to you guys.
		Good talking.
		Next time, maybe we'll go deeper on some conspiracy theories.
		Talking plasma that the military might be using to make us think they're aliens.
		And I hope to work with you in the governor's office at some point with technology.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Now you're talking.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He wrote down graphene.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, let's retrofit the economy because people have something to live for and they want to and they will.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		I'd love Pennsylvania to innovate and lead in that technology.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		It'd be fantastic.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Love you, sir.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Love you back.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Peace and love.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Right on, guys.
		I think you should check out Cast Castle.
		It is really funny, by the way, Ian.
		I watched it today.
		I don't normally watch it, but it was good.
		And I also watched your video on YouTube today, because I saw it on my recommendeds, which I got recommended for some stuff, but I guess not TimCast.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, Luke got recommendations.
unidentified		All right.
unidentified		Yeah.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Moving on up.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, guys, and I am in the chat.
		That is me, theiamserge.com.
		You can find me everywhere with that, again.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		I'm in there with you, commenting, whatever.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, right.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		I'm having a lot of fun.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		That was a good one.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		See you guys.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It'd be funny to do a skit where it's like ten years from now, and it's this futuristic world of flying cars, and Ian's like, you know, a little bit older, and he's looking at a picture of Doug over here, and then he looks up at a statue of him, and it says, he created the first graphene plant, revolutionizing technology, and Ian's like, we did it.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		We could build a campus where people come and learn to make it with lasers and we'll create a new industry.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right on.
doug mastriano ▲ ● ▼		Now you're talking.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Alright everybody, thanks for hanging out.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We're not having a members-only show because we don't really have enough time for it, unfortunately, but I do appreciate all of you who are members who help make it all possible, and we will see you all next time.

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